From owner-freebsd-scsi Sun Sep 16 10:18:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from berkano.pair.com (berkano.pair.com [209.68.1.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D986437B408 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 60117 invoked by uid 3258); 16 Sep 2001 17:18:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 17:18:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:18:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Taylor To: Alexey Koptsevich Cc: , Subject: Re: are backplanes needed for IDE RAID? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex, No, you don't need to buy IDE backplanes for 3Ware IDE RAID controller. The IDE disk enclosure/tray from Synetic won't allow you to do hot-swap on the IDE drives anyway. Don't waste your money on it. Just mount the IDE drives directly in to your server's drive bays. They should work fine. If you really need hot-swap IDE drives, you might want to take a look at following website. http://www.rackmount.com/RackSvr/ColocationServer1125-IDE-RAID.htm The IDE Raid unit has a build-in IDE-to-IDE RAID-1 controller. It doesn't need a RAID software driver for FreeBSD O.S. Actually you can install any types of operating system on it using a standard IDE driver. (Operating system independent RAID system). Cool stuff! Bryan Taylor P-Networks On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Alexey Koptsevich wrote: > > Hello, > > We are buying 3ware 7810 IDE RAID controller (supports hot-swap) and > thinking now about disk enclosures. There are some on the market (e.g., > backplane http://www.synetic.net/Synetic-Products/2-to-3-IDE.html) but I > wonder do we need them? As far as I understand, some power switching is > necessary for hot swap, but do backplanes provide any advantage against > simple mobile racks with disk power switcher? Also, the backplane cited > above has two power connectors, are they necessary for hot-swappable power > supplies or not? > > Thanks a lot, > Alex > > PS Please cc: me your reply. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 17 7:13:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD4C37B412; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA03344; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:11:14 +0400 (MSD) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.3/Clnt-2.14-AS-eef) id SAA97779; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:10:22 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:10:22 +0400 (MSD) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: Bryan Taylor Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: are backplanes needed for IDE RAID? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Bryan, Thanks for the info! I have seen this device when looked for hot-swappable enclosures. But the problem is that we are going to use RAID5 on 8 discs with 3ware Escalade 7810. Are those bays Do you know what technology do they use to provide hot swap in the server you mentioned? Can it be used somehow with other IDE RAID controllers? Can those enclosures be purchased separately? Thanks a lot, Alex On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, 13:18 -0400, Bryan Taylor wrote: > Alex, > > No, you don't need to buy IDE backplanes for 3Ware IDE RAID controller. > The IDE disk enclosure/tray from Synetic won't allow you to do hot-swap on > the IDE drives anyway. Don't waste your money on it. Just mount the IDE > drives directly in to your server's drive bays. They should work fine. > > If you really need hot-swap IDE drives, you might want to take a look > at following website. > > http://www.rackmount.com/RackSvr/ColocationServer1125-IDE-RAID.htm > > The IDE Raid unit has a build-in IDE-to-IDE RAID-1 controller. It > doesn't need a RAID software driver for FreeBSD O.S. Actually you can > install any types of operating system on it using a standard IDE driver. > (Operating system independent RAID system). > Cool stuff! > > Bryan Taylor > P-Networks > > > On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Alexey Koptsevich wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > We are buying 3ware 7810 IDE RAID controller (supports hot-swap) and > > thinking now about disk enclosures. There are some on the market (e.g., > > backplane http://www.synetic.net/Synetic-Products/2-to-3-IDE.html) but I > > wonder do we need them? As far as I understand, some power switching is > > necessary for hot swap, but do backplanes provide any advantage against > > simple mobile racks with disk power switcher? Also, the backplane cited > > above has two power connectors, are they necessary for hot-swappable power > > supplies or not? > > > > Thanks a lot, > > Alex > > > > PS Please cc: me your reply. > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Sep 19 23:57:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from w250.z064001178.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net (w250.z064001178.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.178.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60BA737B40F for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 691 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Sep 2001 06:58:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:57:51 -0701 From: Jos Backus To: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sa problems Message-ID: <20010919235751.A605@lizzy.bugworks.com> Reply-To: Jos Backus Mail-Followup-To: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anybody else having problems with tape drives with tonight's -current? While trying to create a backup on my sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device I am seeing mt: /dev/nsa0: Device not configured in response to mt rew CAMDEBUG output: Sep 19 23:53:34 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): saopen(0): dev=0x0 softc=0x0 Sep 19 23:53:34 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart(sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart(sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x0 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 Sep 19 23:53:35 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 Sep 19 23:53:36 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 Sep 19 23:53:37 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 Sep 19 23:53:37 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 Sep 19 23:53:38 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 Sep 19 23:53:38 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart Fwiw, the right light on the drive is blinking yellow after this, and I have to power off the system to make it stop. I tried camcontrol reset without success. Thanks, -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ Santa Clara, CA _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ josb@cncdsl.com _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 20 7:28:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D35537B419 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mkc-65-31-219-45.kc.rr.com (HELO yahoo.com) (65.31.219.45) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 14:23:39 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <3BA9FBEA.4050103@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:23:38 -0500 From: Jim Bryant Reply-To: kc5vdj@yahoo.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Backus Cc: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sa problems References: <20010919235751.A605@lizzy.bugworks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can verify if this is just you, or if it's a new problem... gimme the time to compile tho... Jos Backus wrote: > Is anybody else having problems with tape drives with tonight's -current? > While trying to create a backup on my > > sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device > > I am seeing > > mt: /dev/nsa0: Device not configured > > in response to > > mt rew > > CAMDEBUG output: > > Sep 19 23:53:34 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): saopen(0): dev=0x0 softc=0x0 > Sep 19 23:53:34 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart(sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart(sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x0 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:35 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:36 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:37 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:37 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:38 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:38 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart > > Fwiw, the right light on the drive is blinking yellow after this, and I have > to power off the system to make it stop. I tried camcontrol reset without > success. > > Thanks, > jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! ----------------------------------------------------- POWER TO THE PEOPLE! ----------------------------------------------------- "Religious fundamentalism is the biggest threat to international security that exists today." United Nations Secretary General B.B.Ghali _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 20 8:42:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E7937B413 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8KFgMI33487; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:42:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Jos Backus Cc: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sa problems In-Reply-To: <20010919235751.A605@lizzy.bugworks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org media error followed by not ready. the blinking yellow is the giveaway. Bad tape, and you now should clean the heads. On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Jos Backus wrote: > Is anybody else having problems with tape drives with tonight's -current? > While trying to create a backup on my > > sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device > > I am seeing > > mt: /dev/nsa0: Device not configured > > in response to > > mt rew > > CAMDEBUG output: > > Sep 19 23:53:34 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): saopen(0): dev=0x0 softc=0x0 > Sep 19 23:53:34 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart(sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart(sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x0 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:35 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:36 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:37 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:37 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:38 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > Sep 19 23:53:38 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart > > Fwiw, the right light on the drive is blinking yellow after this, and I have > to power off the system to make it stop. I tried camcontrol reset without > success. > > Thanks, > -- > Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ Santa Clara, CA > _/ _/ _/ > _/ _/_/_/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ > josb@cncdsl.com _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 20 10:17: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E5937B415 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23978; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:16:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8KHGtg06266; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:16:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 19:16:55 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Jos Backus , scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sa problems Message-ID: <20010920191655.A6247@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010919235751.A605@lizzy.bugworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 08:42:21AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 08:42:21AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: Like it says: DDS == DAT Drives Suck > media error followed by not ready. the blinking yellow is the giveaway. > > Bad tape, and you now should clean the heads. > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Jos Backus wrote: > > > Is anybody else having problems with tape drives with tonight's -current? > > While trying to create a backup on my > > > > sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device > > > > I am seeing > > > > mt: /dev/nsa0: Device not configured > > > > in response to > > > > mt rew > > > > CAMDEBUG output: > > > > Sep 19 23:53:34 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): saopen(0): dev=0x0 softc=0x0 > > Sep 19 23:53:34 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart(sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart(sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x0 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > > Sep 19 23:53:35 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > > Sep 19 23:53:36 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > > Sep 19 23:53:37 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1b Key 0x3 ASC/ASCQ 0x3b/0x0 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > > Sep 19 23:53:37 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > > Sep 19 23:53:38 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): CDB[0]=0x1 Key 0x2 ASC/ASCQ 0x4/0x2 CAM STATUS 0xc flags 0x0 resid 0 dxfer_len 0 > > Sep 19 23:53:38 lizzy /boot/kernel/kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:3:0): sastart > > > > Fwiw, the right light on the drive is blinking yellow after this, and I have > > to power off the system to make it stop. I tried camcontrol reset without > > success. -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 20 10:32:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from w250.z064001178.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net (w250.z064001178.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.178.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C22E837B405 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10681 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Sep 2001 17:32:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:32:31 -0700 From: Jos Backus To: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sa problems Message-ID: <20010920103231.A10649@lizzy.bugworks.com> Reply-To: Jos Backus Mail-Followup-To: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010919235751.A605@lizzy.bugworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 08:42:21AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > media error followed by not ready. the blinking yellow is the giveaway. > > Bad tape, and you now should clean the heads. Yeah, I should have known that (slaps forehead). It was such a coincidence, with the move to -current on my home system yesterday. I hadn't cleaned the drive for quite some time, so it makes perfect sense. All seems to be well again. Thanks Matt, and my apologies for the false alarm. -- Jos Backus _/ _/_/_/ Santa Clara, CA _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ josb@cncdsl.com _/_/ _/_/_/ use Std::Disclaimer; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 20 10:43:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE5E637B40D for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mkc-65-31-219-45.kc.rr.com (HELO yahoo.com) (65.31.219.45) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 17:42:11 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <3BAA2A73.9090800@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:42:11 -0500 From: Jim Bryant Reply-To: kc5vdj@yahoo.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Matthew Jacob , Jos Backus , scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sa problems References: <20010919235751.A605@lizzy.bugworks.com> <20010920191655.A6247@freebie.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Har Har Har... DDS = Less problematic than 8mm, and far cheaper than DLT!!! Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 08:42:21AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Like it says: DDS == DAT Drives Suck jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! ----------------------------------------------------- POWER TO THE PEOPLE! ----------------------------------------------------- "Religious fundamentalism is the biggest threat to international security that exists today." United Nations Secretary General B.B.Ghali _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 20 12:29:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC74A37B411 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01427; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:29:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8KJSiL07275; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:28:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:28:44 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jim Bryant Cc: Matthew Jacob , Jos Backus , scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sa problems Message-ID: <20010920212844.A7256@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010919235751.A605@lizzy.bugworks.com> <20010920191655.A6247@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3BAA2A73.9090800@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BAA2A73.9090800@yahoo.com>; from kc5vdj@yahoo.com on Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 12:42:11PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 12:42:11PM -0500, Jim Bryant wrote: > Har Har Har... :) > DDS = Less problematic than 8mm, and far cheaper than DLT!!! 8mm AIT is OK. Exabytes... not a lot of fun.. DLT rules but is expensive. -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Sep 21 18: 3:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8E9737B40D for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mkc-65-31-219-45.kc.rr.com (HELO yahoo.com) (65.31.219.45) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2001 01:03:36 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <3BABE367.9060503@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:03:35 -0500 From: Jim Bryant Reply-To: kc5vdj@yahoo.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: bru rewinding... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org using the default freebsd-4.x install of bru-16.0, which i recently bought, i am running into this thing where it cannot rewind /dev/sa0 are there any rewind ioctl changes between 4.x and -current? could this be a -current issue? i'm running this copy of bru on my -current box right now. adapter is an onboard AHA-3940UW, and the tape drive is an HP C1533A DDS-2. my copy of -current is a couple of days after the KSE merge. I may upgrade it this weekend, depending on the status of some seemingly pending issues recently on the -current mailing list, as I try to get -current in-between major breakages. i'm relatively new to bru, but i think i have all of the options correct... jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! ----------------------------------------------------- POWER TO THE PEOPLE! ----------------------------------------------------- "Religious fundamentalism is the biggest threat to international security that exists today." United Nations Secretary General B.B.Ghali _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Sep 21 21:53:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mail2out.giga.net.tw (mail2out.giga.net.tw [203.133.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF30037B405 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 21:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from index (u24-164.u203-203.giga.net.tw [203.203.24.164]) by mail2out.giga.net.tw (Postfix) with SMTP id 085D614785 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 12:53:32 +0800 (CST) To: From: gd168@24k.com.tw Subject: 環保雷射碳粉匣專題研究報告 Date: 星期六, 22 九月 2001 12:51:36 +0800 Message-Id: <37156.535838773145600.126876@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 受文者：呈　國立台灣大學暨所屬行政學術研究單位／ 　　　　　　全國各級機關團體／公司行號／公會或個人　請鑒核！ 發文者：企龍辦公用品有限公司　電話：(02)2701-2000 主　旨：使用〔環保雷射碳粉匣〕之優點及採購要點。 說　明：環保雷射碳粉匣之專題研究報告 （一）前言 　　　　　近年來，由於各項相關技術成熟，配合半導體產業篷勃發展 　　　使得雷射印表機價格大幅下滑，各廠商無不壓低價格，以擴大市 　　　場佔有率，再以後續的耗材賺回其利潤，您花在碳粉匣的費用， 　　　長期而言實在是一筆可觀的支出。 　　　　　　　　〔使用環保雷射碳粉匣之三大理由〕 　　　　 (1)技術上已突破：有鑑於碳粉匣和墨水匣需求量不斷成長， 　　　國人五年前開始著手，針對雷射印表機電子寫真技術及碳粉感光 　　　體，進行相關研發工作，研發小組成員皆為博碩士學歷，研發小 　　　組成員針對各大廠牌機器精密結構，已有深度了解，掌握許多相 　　　關技術，對碳粉匣的材料及製程參數有若干改進，以適應台灣亞 　　　熱帶高溫潮濕的氣候環境，經嚴格品管控制，國人所生產的環保 　　　雷射碳粉匣，列印品質和原廠同樣清晰，且不會傷害機器。 　　　　 (2)為環保盡心力：碳粉匣造成對環境的污染與日俱增，人類 　　　應反省覺悟，我們只有一個地球，為全人類及後代子孫，保留一 　　　個乾淨的生存環境，已到刻不容緩的地步！讓我們從校園做起， 　　　一起來回收並使用環保雷射碳粉匣。 　　　　 (3)節省列印費用：根據工商時報 90年4月12日報導指出，用 　　　環保雷射碳粉匣可節省４成左右的費用，不必多花錢。 （二）全球趨勢分析 　　　　　1999年碳粉卡匣再生回收使用比較： 　　　歐美市場再生回收卡匣使用率 ３０％ (約1/3) 　　　台灣市場再生回收卡匣使用率 　５％ 　　　(資料來源：Recharger期刊) 　　　　　台灣約有50萬台雷射印表機，預估每年使用約100∼200萬支 　　　雷射碳粉匣，製造出約2000∼2500公噸固體廢棄物，並且每年這 　　　個數目正在成長。而這些塑膠廢棄物須要超過十個世紀來分解， 　　　對台灣三萬六千平方公里的土地上，造成嚴重的負荷。 　　　　　歐美各國相關環保法令強制規定製造廠商的回收比率，已行 　　　之多年，對於回收業者也有對應的輔助政策，並不斷的教育使用 　　　者回收、減量再利用(Recycle, Reduce, Reuse)的觀念。 　　　　　事實證明，此舉不僅有助於環保且能降低支出，美國已明令 　　　聯邦政府的各單位必須使用環保碳粉匣。 （三）對環境保護及資源回收再利用，具有正面意義 　　　　　　如果製造每個卡匣需要超過三夸脫油，那麼台灣每年就會 　　　用掉近100 萬加崙的石油。如果您換買環保碳粉匣，很明確地， 　　　您已經對保護環境做出貢獻了，因為我們的圾圾場可以減少一個 　　　空間來存放您的卡匣。 　　　　　以台灣目前使用量愈來愈多的雷射印表機而言，每天丟棄的 　　　碳粉匣不知多少，而這些碳粉匣裡的碳粉色劑微粒，尺寸約6-12 　　　微米，卻會滲入地下水，污染水源，若想從水中除去這些碳粉微 　　　粒，就必須加裝特殊濾水設備，因此無論公司企業或學校及個人 　　　都有責任一起來防止碳粉匣污染環境的工作，碳粉匣的回收再利 　　　用，是目前的唯一途徑。 （四）環保碳粉匣之採購要點 　　　　　由於市售環保碳粉匣，供應商過多，各家的品質參差不齊， 　　　敬請認明企龍代理的環保碳粉匣，為目前台灣唯一專業導向之環 　　　保雷射碳粉匣，品質滿意保證，不滿包退，確保消費權益，避免 　　　買到劣質品，選擇企龍，品質有保障！ 　　　採購前務必詢問下列重要參考依據： 　　　1.環保雷射碳粉匣，是否完全以標準製程製造？　製程中，廢碳 　　　　粉槽及相關零件是否清理乾淨並檢試元件性能？ 　　　2.儲粉槽是否完全清潔乾淨後，才重新裝填全新碳粉？ 　　　3.所充填之碳粉，是否為國際間知名碳粉廠出品？ 　　　4.所有儲粉槽，是否以封條密封，完整交付使用人？ 　　　5.碳粉匣是否通過完整而嚴格品管測試後才出廠？ 　　　6.測試用之碳粉是否為外加？　所充填的碳粉數量和原廠碳粉匣 　　　　容量是否相同，會不會短少？ 　　　7.充填之碳粉是否經過精密測試，確認比標準值高才裝填？ 　　　8.所更換之感光鼓是否為國際間知名之高科技廠牌產品？ 　　　9.碳粉匣成品是否以黑色塑膠紙實施避光包裝後，並以氣泡袋或 　　　　特殊襯墊保護，再裝入保護槽，以確保運輸途中乃至使用前， 　　　　不受任何光線其他物理性，化學性傷害？ 　　　　企龍代理的環保雷射碳粉匣業已全數通過上述測試，全面實施 　　　　品質滿意保證再訂購，不滿意保證退貨！ （五）價格資訊：環保雷射碳粉匣之價格已公布於網站，歡迎上網查詢 　　　　　　　　網址：http://clik.to/96969180 （六）聯絡資訊：以上資料由企龍辦公用品有限公司所提供，如需訂購 　　　　　　　　請電：(02)2701-2000我們熱誠的同仁為您服務。 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message