From owner-freebsd-small Sun Mar 4 10:55:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from spektr.eu.org (spektr.gnulix.org [212.85.67.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAC437B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jp@spektr.eu.org) Received: from localhost (jp@localhost) by spektr.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA33805 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:52:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jp@spektr.eu.org) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:52:26 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rgen_Pehrson?= To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How to create a boot floppy? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been using PicoBSD as a router between my home LAN and my ISP for a while now. But since I recently switched to ADSL I need to have a DHCP client on the router among other stuff. So I was thinking of making a bootable CDROM image instead since there's not much room left on the floppy anymore. I guess I will just make a mkisofs of the HD. But how should I create the floppy boot image for it? I just want it to hold the kernel and boot blocks. And then it should mount and use the CD image for the rest. Under Linux the only thing would be needed is to cat the kernel to the floppy since the kernel already contains all neccessary bootblocks. And then maybe a rdev to set the root device on the floppy to the CD. But how do I do this under FreeBSD? I don't want to save any logfiles or anything like that so I guess I can have the filesystem read-only? (The reason I want to use a CD is to make it completely silent. No spinning HD, no fan or anything. That's why the floppy solution was perfect up until now.) -- Jörgen Pehrson jp@spektr.eu.org http://spektr.eu.org/~jp/ ----------------------------------------------------------- "i must say the linux community is a lot nicer than the unix community. a negative comment on unix would warrent death threats. with linux, it is like stirring up a nest of butterflies." -- Ken Thompson. 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Mar 5 17:44:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.alink.net (spoon-server1-eth.sv.alink.net [207.135.64.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D272437B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:44:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbrowne@jbrowne.com) Received: from [216.39.8.88] (netility88.hq.netility.com [216.39.8.88]) by spoon.alink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08510; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:44:34 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jbrowne@pop.alink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200102120610.f1C6AfO02706@earth.backplane.com> References: <200102120610.f1C6AfO02706@earth.backplane.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:44:25 -0800 To: Matt Dillon From: Jim Browne Subject: Executing no-copy from md(4) devices (Was Re: Sans-Swap VM Subsystem Questions) Cc: "Michael C . Wu" , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG, "Forrest W. Christian" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 22:10 -0800 2/11/01, Matt Dillon wrote: > I'm not sure what picobsd is using, but its probably MFS. With MFS every > active page will take up 2x the memory and every inactive page will take > up 1x the memory (verses no memory if your backing store is some native > device, like a flash rom). Compression has the same effect -- if > something is compressed on the filesystem, the system eats dirty memory > uncompressing it (compression is something that used to work with a.out > binaries. I don't think it works for ELF binaries anyway). Matt: I've started looking into the source to try and answer this question, but I figure a note to you and the list will be a bit faster. :) Say I have a system that has a root filesystem on an md(4) device that was preloaded at boot by loader(8). The md(4) image is stored gzip'd on flash (NB: not an IDE flash device, plain old flash) and the original image is too large to keep uncompressed in flash. I would very much like program text to not have to exist in RAM more than once. Currently, I do not see how that can be done since md(4) is acting like a block driver for UFS and its data is apparently copied (via struct buf's?) into the vnode vm_objects. Is there any way for the vnode's vm_object to consist of COW copies of the blocks already in RAM in md's image? Please excuse (and correct) any mistakes in my use of the proper terminology. From my limited understanding of the situation, it seems like I have three options: 1) A single-copy system is possible with the current tools and I just do not understand how to implement it. 2) Write a new version of md(4) that can use a back-end with gzip'd blocks. Write the needed tools to convert a regular md image to an image that is gzip'd block-by-block with perhaps an offset table for indexing into the compressed data. Yucky, but avoids having to duplicate the functionality of UFS. 3) Write a filesystem that is a first class VFS client. (V9FS is perhaps a starting point for what I need?) Any pointers will be greatly appreciated. TIA Jim Browne jbrowne@jbrowne.com "We lost our lease. You lose culture" - sign on SF Arts Comission Bldg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Mar 6 5: 0:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from ghost1.onet.pl (ghost1.onet.pl [194.204.190.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07B037B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:00:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Matysekg@poczta.onet.pl) Received: from priv.onet.pl ([213.180.128.80]:19098 "EHLO neo2.poczta.onet.pl") by ghost1.onet.pl with ESMTP id ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:00:01 +0100 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.19990206134918.009eba90@friko4.onet.pl> X-Sender: matysekg@friko4.onet.pl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:57:11 +0100 To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mateusz Grzesiak Subject: pico networking Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'm just a "newbie" in BSD, and I need to make a Pico server. I need to configure Pico for providing internet access from one network card (connected to cable modem with fixed IP) to other computers in my network (another network card, IP are not routable in this network). I guess, that I have to use Networking version of Pico, so I've prepared the disk and compiled kernel. But I have no idea how to configure it... PLEASE HELP...:-) Mateusz Grzesiak Matysekg@poczta.onet.pl -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Mar 7 11:44:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rgmail.regenstrief.org (rgmail.regenstrief.org [134.68.31.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BB137B71B for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:44:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org) Received: from aurora.regenstrief.org (rgnout.regenstrief.org [134.68.31.38]) by rgmail.regenstrief.org (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f27JnLA07260 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:49:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA6494F.BE06551E@aurora.regenstrief.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:44:31 +0000 From: Gunther Schadow Organization: Regenstrief Institute for Health Care X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PicoBSD List Subject: Hardware?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have set up my own customized PicoBSD VPN routers with all the bells and whistles that I need. What I am having problems with is the hardware side. I am desperately waiting for someone to deliver boards that he had announced late last year, but there seem to be problems. Meanwhile my project comes up to deadlines and I have a hard time waiting. I need a small size low power (simple wall AC adapter) box that essentially contains 2 (better 3) ethernet interfaces and a sio for console, I don't want any of this video and keyboard and sound gimmick that I can't use, that only drives up the price and power consumption. I cannot find anything like it in the whole world so it seems. You're happy to have one built-in ethernet, one vendor left with two, and complete loss with three. The other problem, nowhere can you opt in for ethernet *and* opt out of VGA. Does anyone know anything better? I would especially appreciate to be directed to a specific product, I know that there are certain vendors and web sites that come close, but having looked at all this I cannot find anything that really fits. I appreciate any help. -Gunther PS: we seem to be a little disadvantaged with FreeBSD not running on MIPS and ARM architectures, 'cause there are lot more extremely small low power boards out there for ARM. But I'm holding on to FreeBSD if I only could finally get 5 to 30 useful boards into my possession. -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist http://aurora.regenstrief.org Regenstrief Institute for Health Care tel:1(317)630-7960 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Mar 7 15:52:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from cdc.net (server1.cdc.net [207.244.0.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F413837B71B for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:52:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwade@cdc.net) Received: (qmail 19077 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2001 23:50:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO net-ninja.com) (207.244.6.200) by server1.cdc.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 23:50:30 -0000 Received: by net-ninja.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0FD966E8D0; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by net-ninja.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA30176020; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:50:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:50:28 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Wade X-Sender: mwade@net-ninja.com To: Gunther Schadow Cc: PicoBSD List Subject: Re: Hardware?? In-Reply-To: <3AA6494F.BE06551E@aurora.regenstrief.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Gunther Schadow wrote: > Hi, I have set up my own customized PicoBSD VPN routers with all the > bells and whistles that I need. What I am having problems with is the > hardware side. I am desperately waiting for someone to deliver boards > that he had announced late last year, but there seem to be problems. > Meanwhile my project comes up to deadlines and I have a hard time > waiting. I need a small size low power (simple wall AC adapter) box > that essentially contains 2 (better 3) ethernet interfaces and a > sio for console, I don't want any of this video and keyboard and > sound gimmick that I can't use, that only drives up the price and > power consumption. I cannot find anything like it in the whole world > so it seems. You're happy to have one built-in ethernet, one vendor > left with two, and complete loss with three. The other problem, nowhere > can you opt in for ethernet *and* opt out of VGA. > > Does anyone know anything better? I would especially appreciate to > be directed to a specific product, I know that there are certain > vendors and web sites that come close, but having looked at all this > I cannot find anything that really fits. > > I appreciate any help. I'm also looking for similar hardware. I've prototyped a product I've designed using the FreeBSD kernel and development tools on the NC series of NetPCs from "http://www.flytech.com.tw/". Now I'm ready to move on but I'm still without low cost embedded x86 boards with 2-3 10/100bT ports + flash. --- Mike Wade (mwade@cdc.net) Chief Technical Officer CDC Internet, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Mar 7 22:14:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f100.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CBB37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:14:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danukusmana@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:14:17 -0800 Received: from 202.158.62.45 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 06:14:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.158.62.45] From: "danu kusmana" To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 06:14:17 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2001 06:14:17.0422 (UTC) FILETIME=[018BE6E0:01C0A797] Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Mar 7 23: 9:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from c000.snv.cp.net (c000-h008.c000.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9069E37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:09:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neal@nelsonnet.org) Received: (cpmta 9961 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2001 23:09:45 -0800 Received: from 130.c.001.mel.iprimus.net.au (HELO ?172.19.1.26?) (203.134.131.130) by smtp.nelsonnet.org (209.228.32.72) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 23:09:45 -0800 X-Sent: 8 Mar 2001 07:09:45 GMT Subject: Flash Boot Problems Date: Thu, 8 Mar 01 18:12:55 +1100 x-sender: neal@getmail.nelsonnet.org x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Neal To: "Small FreeBSD" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: <20010308070947.9069E37B719@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been using the mkflash script that I was referred to on this list to build a firewall installation on a CompactFlash card. This seems to have gone well with one small exception: I can't get it to boot. My system just sits there and doesn't try to boot. It doesn't even complain. I've even tried it in my development system but the BIOS just skips by the disc. Is there anything that I need to do to make a Flash card boot? I've had a look at the BIOS partition table and the partition I'm using is marked as active, which is what I understand is needed for a BIOS to take interest in booting. Any help would be gratefully accepted as I'm a bit stumped here. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 8 12:30:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from deborah.paradise.net.nz (deborah.paradise.net.nz [203.96.152.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2072C37B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:30:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davep@afterswish.com) Received: from duron700.afterswish.com (203-79-83-91.cable.paradise.net.nz [203.79.83.91]) by deborah.paradise.net.nz (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f28KUM693528; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:30:22 +1300 (NZDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20010309092732.022e3620@pop3.paradise.net.nz> X-Sender: dpreece@pop3.paradise.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:30:14 +1300 To: Neal From: David Preece Subject: Re: Flash Boot Problems Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010308070947.9069E37B719@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 18:12 8/03/2001 +1100, you wrote: >I've been using the mkflash script that I was referred to on this list to >build a firewall installation on a CompactFlash card. This seems to have >gone well with one small exception: I can't get it to boot. Haven't seen the mkflash script, but have you specified the -B flag (install boot blocks) to disklabel? From my installation script (I use a 'hand made' disklabel, hence -R): disklabel -R -B ad1 disklabel.cf Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 8 12:32:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from cotdazr.org (cotdazr.org [209.239.229.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D280437B71B for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:32:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from efb@cotdazr.org) Received: (qmail 28768 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Mar 2001 20:32:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:32:00 -0800 From: Everett F Batey To: Mike Wade Cc: PicoBSD List , Gunther Schadow Subject: Re: Hardware?? VPN and VLAN Switch mfgrs Message-ID: <20010308123200.C28652@cotdazr.org> Reply-To: efb@vhwy.com References: <3AA6494F.BE06551E@aurora.regenstrief.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Mike Wade on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 06:50:28PM -0500 X-URL: http://www.cotdazr.org Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There are a lot of small under $150 boxes with the new VLAN switches embedded as well as small VPNs and firewalls. Bet some of those guys have the right iron they might sell without firmware. Could help them recoup their investment. On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 06:50:28PM -0500, Mike Wade wrote: > Subject: Re: Hardware?? > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Gunther Schadow wrote: > > Hi, I have set up my own customized PicoBSD VPN routers with all the > > bells and whistles that I need. What I am having problems with is the > > hardware side. I am desperately waiting for someone to deliver boards > > that he had announced late last year, but there seem to be problems. > > Meanwhile my project comes up to deadlines and I have a hard time > I'm also looking for similar hardware. I've prototyped a product I've > designed using the FreeBSD kernel and development tools on the NC series > of NetPCs from "http://www.flytech.com.tw/". Now I'm ready to move on but > I'm still without low cost embedded x86 boards with 2-3 10/100bT ports + > flash. > -- + http://www.vhwy.com efb@vhwy.com WA6CRE@arrl.net http://www.cotdazr.org + + Unix BSD, Sun, HP SCO Linux Security Cisco Routing DataFellows QMail DNS + To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Mar 9 2:41:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EA637B71A; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:41:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA48528; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:42:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200103091042.LAA48528@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: howto access an oddly shaped partition on a floppy ? To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:42:13 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i have the following problem (related to picobsd this is why this msg is Bcc to -small). We can format 1722KB floppies, which is 21 sectors/2heads/82 tracks, but the bios is unable to boot from them -- it will only read the first 18 sectors of each track and in many cases it will be able to read all 82 tracks. So one approach one would use with picobsd floppies could be the following: format the disk with a 1722 format, but then put a regular filesystem only on the "rectangular" area made of 18 sectors/82 tracks. It would be nice to access the rest of the disk (sectors 19-20-21 of each track) as a separate volume. But how do we achieve this ? One way could be to write some userspace program which knows the mapping and reads/writes/seeks for you in the appropriate places. Another one would be to modify the "fd" driver (apparently you need to touch a couple of places in sys/isa/fd.c:fdstate() ) to do the remapping for you, maybe driven by some table or sysctl variable. The latter method would be more flexible as you would be able to use the volume as an ordinary disk. Suggestions ? cheers luigi ----------------------------------+----------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . ACIRI/ICSI (on leave from Univ. di Pisa) http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . 1947 Center St, Berkeley CA 94704 Phone (510) 666 2927 . ----------------------------------+----------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Mar 9 22:29:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rues.amursk.ru (gosorgan.amursk.ru [194.85.113.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EF337B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:29:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chief@ogk.vympel.amursk.ru) Received: from ogk.vympel.amursk.ru (IDENT:root@ogk.vympel.amursk.ru [213.59.139.2]) by rues.amursk.ru (8.9.3/rv-01alpha1) with ESMTP id QAA01059 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:29:00 +1000 Posted-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:29:00 +1000 Received: from localhost (chief@localhost) by ogk.vympel.amursk.ru (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2A6Sji20795 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:28:51 +1000 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:28:45 +1000 (VLAT) From: Vladimir Zakharov To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 386DX-40 with 8 Mb RAM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All! Is it possible at all to route internal private network (5 PCs, no DHCP) through PicoBSD running on subj? Connection to ISP - dialout via conventional modem. Dial on demand is preferable. If yes, what flavour of PicoBSD is recommended? Thanks, Vladimir P.S. How to configure sio2 and /dev/cuaa2 on boot automatically? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Mar 9 22:39:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA25637B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA60808; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:40:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200103100640.HAA60808@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: 386DX-40 with 8 Mb RAM In-Reply-To: from Vladimir Zakharov at "Mar 10, 2001 04:28:45 pm" To: Vladimir Zakharov Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 07:40:08 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi All! > > Is it possible at all to route internal private network (5 PCs, no > DHCP) through PicoBSD running on subj? Connection to ISP - dialout via > conventional modem. Dial on demand is preferable. i cannot help noticing that many small router boxes are available on the market which have an ethernet and a modem and do all sort of things (autodial, dhcp, nat...) for a price of $200 or less and a very small form factor. Even the apple airport (or the wavelan 'RG' base station) cost some $250-300 and has an 802.11 interface. This said... > If yes, what flavour of PicoBSD is recommended? probably the 'net' one, and one based on FreeBSD 3.x or 2.x (due to code bloat, i am not sure 4.x can run in 8MB). You might need to backport the build scripts and file tree and crunchgen modifications from 4.3 to 3.x/2.x cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Mar 9 22:49:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD6537B71A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:49:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2A6n9I13068; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:49:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200103100649.f2A6n9I13068@harmony.village.org> To: Vladimir Zakharov Subject: Re: 386DX-40 with 8 Mb RAM Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:28:45 +1000." References: Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 23:49:09 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Vladimir Zakharov writes: : Is it possible at all to route internal private network (5 PCs, no : DHCP) through PicoBSD running on subj? Connection to ISP - dialout via : conventional modem. Dial on demand is preferable. I've done something similar in the past with a 386DX33 with 3 dialin clients and 1 dialout + ethernet. We had 16M of RAM, however. The 8M should be enough, especially with FreeBSD 3.5 : If yes, what flavour of PicoBSD is recommended? I'd be tempted to use the Picobsd from 3.5 in the dialin configuration. 4.x is heavier weight. You might also want to consider a stripped down FreeSBD on compact flash + IDE adapter since CF is a lot more reliable than floppies. However, I suspect that this is expensive still in russia. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Mar 10 0:10:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.alphaque.com (ns2.alphaque.com [202.185.254.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79EE937B71A for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:10:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dinesh@alphaque.com) Received: (qmail 16262 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2001 08:10:39 -0000 Received: from j20.brf82.jaring.my (HELO prophet.alphaque.com) (161.142.153.34) by ns2.alphaque.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2001 08:10:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (p95jqn@localhost.alphaque.com [127.0.0.1]) by prophet.alphaque.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2A897w00685; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:09:07 +0800 (MYT) (envelope-from dinesh@alphaque.com) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:09:07 +0800 (MYT) From: Dinesh Nair To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Vladimir Zakharov , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 386DX-40 with 8 Mb RAM In-Reply-To: <200103100640.HAA60808@info.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > You might need to backport the build scripts and file tree > and crunchgen modifications from 4.3 to 3.x/2.x unnecessary, when andrzej was working on this, i backported it to 2.2.5R and it sits at www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/picobsd225/ pull down the net flavour. --dinesh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Mar 10 1:57:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from D00015.dialonly.kemerovo.su (www2.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA5737B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:57:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eugen@D00015.dialonly.kemerovo.su) Received: (from eugen@localhost) by D00015.dialonly.kemerovo.su (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f2A9rTO04932; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:53:29 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:53:29 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein To: Vladimir Zakharov Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 386DX-40 with 8 Mb RAM Message-ID: <20010310165329.B4718@iname.com> Reply-To: eugen@iname.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from chief@ogk.vympel.amursk.ru on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 04:28:45PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 04:28:45PM +1000, Vladimir Zakharov wrote: > Is it possible at all to route internal private network (5 PCs, no > DHCP) through PicoBSD running on subj? Connection to ISP - dialout via > conventional modem. Dial on demand is preferable. > > If yes, what flavour of PicoBSD is recommended? Yes, it's possible. I recently finished and run PicoBSD 0.5 (FreeBSD 4-STABLE) using 486SX-25/8Mb RAM/1.44 boot floppy. MFS size is 1600Kb. It has pppd serving leased line via 33.6k modem, default route is to ethernet. The other size of LL is normal FreeBSD 3.5 installation with squid, it serves local network. You can set up pppd for dial on demand. By the way, both machines use PPP_DEFLATE to speed up transfer of text data (mail, news, html etc). Everything work fine. > Vladimir > > P.S. How to configure sio2 and /dev/cuaa2 on boot automatically? Look at /etc/rc.serial Eugene Grosbein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message