From owner-freebsd-small Mon Jul 9 12: 5: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rottweiler.esbrasil.com (www.esbrasil.com [200.188.18.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49E137B405 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ogando@esbrasil.com) Received: from wksnop01 (ld-facs0234.ba.psinet.com.br [200.188.18.234] (may be forged)) by rottweiler.esbrasil.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) with SMTP id f69G7oL04765 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:07:51 GMT Message-ID: <003c01c108a9$d7a5b120$730a14ac@ESOLUTIONS.esbrasil.com> From: "Fabio Ogando" To: Subject: Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:03:28 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C10890.B14A1660" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C10890.B14A1660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C10890.B14A1660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C10890.B14A1660-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Jul 9 18:51:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.bytecraft.au.com (wombat.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590CF37B401; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 18:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from taylorm@bytecraft.au.com) Received: from pc99101401.bytecraft.au.com (unknown [203.39.118.42]) by wombat.bytecraft.au.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CA3773EA0; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:51:35 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <01e801c108e3$2dcea3c0$2a7627cb@pc99101401.bytecraft.au.com> Reply-To: "Murray Taylor" From: "Murray Taylor" To: Cc: Subject: Configuring picoBSD router on 4.3 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:53:56 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can some one please put up a step by step receipe for configuring the router in PicoBSD. Here's where I'm at. The as-is distribution compiles ok. The deletions I have made to the kernel config file have compiled ok ( i just commented out the unused isa net cards and the I686 line ) The disk boots ok in the 100MHz Pentium-s system I'm using. (This system was used very successfully as a Pico (4.2) bridge) I now need to configure it as a router, and cannot get any rc type files to be applied upon booting. I have managed to get my files into an /etc directory on the pico disk as .gz files by changing the line in the picobsd script to INCLUDE_FLOPPY_IN_MFS="no" but no further success. All I want to get the disk to do on boot is ifconfig de0 inet 203.x.y.z netmask 255... ifconfig de1 inet 10.x.y.z netmask 255... ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules route add .... Given the recent updates to picobsd may I respectfully suggest that (A) we are not all kernel hackers and cant follow all the boot time black magic. (B) that some major effort be expended on the doco, especially for sysadmins and configuring systems. Dont get me wrong -- pico is great! BUT I am a TCL/SQL programmer who has to act as sysadmin and create a firewalled router _RIGHT NOW_ (thanks boss!) I would hate to see such good work be wasted 'cos people cant use it easily. BTW: I have read the pico FAQ on www.cse.ucsc.edu/~brucem/pico_notes.htm and this has helped a bit, but I still need and step by step process, as pico does not seem to be doing the /etc file 'overwriting' mentioned in that doc. OR if it is, then the boot process is not seeing my files. Murray Taylor Project Manager Bytecraft Systems Pty Ltd ph: +61 3 9587 2555 Fax: +61 3 9587 1614 Email: taylorm@bytecraftsystems.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Jul 9 20: 0:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cruzio.com (dsl3-63-249-86-54.cruzio.com [63.249.86.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B056237B403 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brucem@mail.cruzio.com) Received: (from brucem@localhost) by mail.cruzio.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f6A2ksc00466 for freebsd-small@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:46:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brucem) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 19:46:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Bruce R. Montague" Message-Id: <200107100246.f6A2ksc00466@mail.cruzio.com> To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: picobsd router (oinit,rc) Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG re: www.cse.ucsc.edu/~brucem/pico_notes.htm > pico does not seem to be doing the > /etc file 'overwriting' mentioned ... Sorry, my doco fault. /usr/src/release/picobsd/router/floppy.tree/etc has only: #!/bin/sh # $FreeBSD: src/release/picobsd/router/floppy.tree/etc/rc,v 1.5 1999/08/28 06:24:16 roger Exp $ ### Special setup for one floppy PICOBSD ### ifconfig lo0 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 hostname pico echo "" echo "" echo '+----------- PicoBSD @VER@ (ROUTER) ------------+' ... Maybe just put your config stuff in where it has the above ifconfig, clean everything, and rebuild. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Regards, - bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Jul 9 20:10:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from nwlynx.network-lynx.net (nwlynx.network-lynx.net [63.122.185.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF4537B403 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Din@Silver-Lynx.com) Received: from Silver-Lynx.com (mini1.network-lynx.net [63.122.185.98]) by nwlynx.network-lynx.net (8.11.1/8.9.3/Who.Cares) with ESMTP id f6A3AhK15653; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 21:10:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from Din@Silver-Lynx.com) Message-ID: <3B4A71D2.E1C4A07E@Silver-Lynx.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 21:09:06 -0600 From: Don Wilde Reply-To: Don@Network-Lynx.net Organization: Network Lynx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Taylor , freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuring picoBSD router on 4.3 References: <01e801c108e3$2dcea3c0$2a7627cb@pc99101401.bytecraft.au.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You need to be using the /usr/src/release/picobsd/bridge/floppy.tree/etc It should have an rc.conf in it that's very readable... and it actually changes things. :-) Please don't post about Pico to -questions; that's already a very high-traffic list and you'd be wasting everybody else's time there. -- Don Wilde, President Network Lynx 866-272-5586 Email: Don@Network-Lynx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Jul 9 20:49:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.bytecraft.au.com (wombat.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE6537B401 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 20:49:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from taylorm@bytecraft.au.com) Received: from pc99101401.bytecraft.au.com (unknown [203.39.118.42]) by wombat.bytecraft.au.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 303D03EA0; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:49:41 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <025401c108f3$ac797280$2a7627cb@pc99101401.bytecraft.au.com> Reply-To: "Murray Taylor" From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Bruce R. Montague" Cc: , Subject: Re: router, oinit, init Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:52:00 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce, Ah Yup .. the initial mod you suggested to the router rc file didnt work so I am assuming that oinit isnt doing anything clever with it. I have currently hacked a copy of my bridge disk to reset the sysctls for bridgeing to 0 and the forwarding to 1 so that it can start to act as a router. thats net.link.ether.bridge=0 net.inet.in.forwarding=1 and i will be using my existing ipfw setup from the bridge days this appears to be booting and setting thingz ok now thanx guys Murray Taylor Project Manager Bytecraft Systems Pty Ltd ph: +61 3 9587 2555 Fax: +61 3 9587 1614 Email: taylorm@bytecraftsystems.com -----Original Message----- From: Bruce R. Montague To: taylorm@bytecraftsystems.com Date: Tuesday, 10 July 2001 13:28 Subject: router, oinit, init > > Murray, just to nail this dead, in >light of Don Wilde's suggestion, >the "router" config is the only one >of the configurations that uses "oinit" >instead of "init"... (this is specified >in the PICOBSD config file in the >respective config directory). "init" >uses the shell (sh), while "oinit" looks >like it was written for absolute minimal >size, probably back when PicoBSD was not >really fitting on a single disk anymore... > > The configs that use init/sh will exec >the floppy.tree/etc/rc script, which >runs rc.conf, which "hardcodes" setting >environmental variables... > > Hope this helps. > > - bruce > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Jul 9 22: 1:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cruzio.com (dsl3-63-249-86-54.cruzio.com [63.249.86.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD63B37B401 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 22:01:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brucem@mail.cruzio.com) Received: (from brucem@localhost) by mail.cruzio.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f6A4m7O00660 for freebsd-small@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 21:48:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brucem) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 21:48:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Bruce R. Montague" Message-Id: <200107100448.f6A4m7O00660@mail.cruzio.com> To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: picobsd starter FAQ, round 2. Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a second draft, heavily revised from the first, of a "PicoBSD User and Starter FAQ" at: http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~brucem/pico_notes.htm Thanks to all who pinged me on the first round. Please review and give me additional feedback, I'll keep working on getting things right. This is hopefully of use to those in undergrad embedded system labs, student router projects, grad students looking for a jump start... and others. I'm especially interested in any links and citations to any academic or research projects using PicoBSD, please let me know of any such... Regards, - bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Jul 10 16:38:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mimer.webgiro.com [213.162.131.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2FE37B405 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:38:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id C3C6D343B3; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:33:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDA7343AE; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:33:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:33:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: "Bruce R. Montague" Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: picobsd router (oinit,rc) In-Reply-To: <200107100246.f6A2ksc00466@mail.cruzio.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, Please observe that the router version uses oinit, which is a combination of init and command-line facility (adventurous may say "shell" :-). On startup it reads the oinit.rc file, and that's it. The oinit.rc needs to contain only very basic, single commands (no globbing, pipes, subshells, variables etc.. just "echo" :) - the best way to use it is to just put the configuration command you need. You can view the built-ins by typing '?'. I kind of remember that there is also some bug in signal handling, which manifests itself if you do 'kill -HUP 1'. Of course, you can always opt to use the standard init, but then you will have to use getty in order to log-in to the system... Oinit has the advantage of allowing you to execute within 4-5MB physical RAM. On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Bruce R. Montague wrote: > > re: > www.cse.ucsc.edu/~brucem/pico_notes.htm > > > pico does not seem to be doing the > > /etc file 'overwriting' mentioned ... > > Sorry, my doco fault. > > /usr/src/release/picobsd/router/floppy.tree/etc > > has only: > > > #!/bin/sh > # $FreeBSD: src/release/picobsd/router/floppy.tree/etc/rc,v 1.5 1999/08/28 06:24:16 roger Exp $ > ### Special setup for one floppy PICOBSD ### > ifconfig lo0 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 > hostname pico > echo "" > echo "" > echo '+----------- PicoBSD @VER@ (ROUTER) ------------+' > > ... > > > Maybe just put your config stuff in where it has > the above ifconfig, clean everything, and rebuild. > > > Thanks for bringing that to my attention. > > > Regards, > > - bruce > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > -- Andrzej // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // Andrzej Bialecki , Chief System Architect // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // FreeBSD developer (http://www.freebsd.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Jul 10 18:12:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.bytecraft.au.com (wombat.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F395B37B405 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:12:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from taylorm@bytecraft.au.com) Received: from pc99101401.bytecraft.au.com (unknown [203.39.118.42]) by wombat.bytecraft.au.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7204C3E9F; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:12:37 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <01c701c109a6$e351e220$2a7627cb@pc99101401.bytecraft.au.com> Reply-To: "Murray Taylor" From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Andrzej Bialecki" , "Bruce R. Montague" Cc: Subject: Re: picobsd router (oinit,rc) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:14:52 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Andrzei, I tried a line or two in oinit.rc but got no joy... I used ifconfig de0 inet 10.1.2.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 Either the line was too 'complex' or I goofed somehow in getting oinit.rc into the right place to be executed. More info on setting it up would be good .. (BTW I dont have a memory shortage as I am recycling an old desktop Pentium-S with 32Meg of ram still onboard) cheers Murray Taylor Project Manager Bytecraft Systems Pty Ltd ph: +61 3 9587 2555 Fax: +61 3 9587 1614 Email: taylorm@bytecraftsystems.com -----Original Message----- From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Bruce R. Montague Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, 11 July 2001 09:38 Subject: Re: picobsd router (oinit,rc) >Hi guys, > >Please observe that the router version uses oinit, which is a combination >of init and command-line facility (adventurous may say "shell" :-). On >startup it reads the oinit.rc file, and that's it. The oinit.rc needs to >contain only very basic, single commands (no globbing, pipes, subshells, >variables etc.. just "echo" :) - the best way to use it is to just put the >configuration command you need. You can view the built-ins by typing '?'. > >I kind of remember that there is also some bug in signal handling, which >manifests itself if you do 'kill -HUP 1'. > >Of course, you can always opt to use the standard init, but then you will >have to use getty in order to log-in to the system... Oinit has the >advantage of allowing you to execute within 4-5MB physical RAM. > > >On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Bruce R. Montague wrote: > >> >> re: >> www.cse.ucsc.edu/~brucem/pico_notes.htm >> >> > pico does not seem to be doing the >> > /etc file 'overwriting' mentioned ... >> >> Sorry, my doco fault. >> >> /usr/src/release/picobsd/router/floppy.tree/etc >> >> has only: >> >> >> #!/bin/sh >> # $FreeBSD: src/release/picobsd/router/floppy.tree/etc/rc,v 1.5 1999/08/28 06:24:16 roger Exp $ >> ### Special setup for one floppy PICOBSD ### >> ifconfig lo0 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 >> hostname pico >> echo "" >> echo "" >> echo '+----------- PicoBSD @VER@ (ROUTER) ------------+' >> >> ... >> >> >> Maybe just put your config stuff in where it has >> the above ifconfig, clean everything, and rebuild. >> >> >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> - bruce >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message >> > >-- > >Andrzej > >// ---------------------------------------------------------------- >// Andrzej Bialecki , Chief System Architect >// WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) >// ---------------------------------------------------------------- >// FreeBSD developer (http://www.freebsd.org) > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Jul 10 21: 0:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from pds.nchu.edu.tw (pds.tcrc.edu.tw [163.28.80.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABFEE37B405 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:58:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from s8553105@mail.nchu.edu.tw) From: "chchen" To: Subject: PicoBSD with serial console. Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 00:56:19 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01C109A4.4BBB57E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Message-Id: <20010711035818.ABFEE37B405@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C109A4.4BBB57E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all i have the problem with the serial console on PicoBSD.=20 (i use the DiskOnChip 16MB instead of floopy, but i don't think it = will different if i use floopy) i tried the serial console on "Normal" FreeBSD 3.5.1-RELEASE, and it = works. then i try the same way on PicoBSD. but i got something strange. i use the "-h" options in /boot.config, so i can get the booting = info from the serial port is fine and i can get the login prompt, too. and then login is ok,too but after login, it will hang on after some commands such as "ls = -al" the command "ls -al" is fine, the output is correct . but then, it just hang on.....noresponse with anykey press. (system is alive, i still can telnet in) does anyony have any idea?.=20 thanks very much. regards chchen ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C109A4.4BBB57E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hi all

i have the problem with the = serial console=20 on PicoBSD.

(i use the DiskOnChip 16MB = instead of=20 floopy, but i don't think it will different if i use = floopy)

i tried the serial console on = "Normal"=20 FreeBSD 3.5.1-RELEASE, and it works.

then i try the same way on = PicoBSD. but i=20 got something strange.

i use the "-h" options in = /boot.config, so=20 i can get the booting info from the serial port is fine

and i can get the login prompt,=20 too.

and then login is = ok,too

but after login, it will hang on = after some=20 commands such as "ls -al"

the command "ls -al" is = fine, the=20 output is correct .

but then, it just hang = on.....noresponse=20 with anykey press.

(system is alive, i still can = telnet=20 in)

does anyony have any idea?. =

thanks very much.

regards

chchen

------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C109A4.4BBB57E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jul 11 6:17:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mailer2.webgiro.com [213.162.131.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABED737B405 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 06:17:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: from webgiro.com (mailer2.webgiro.com [213.162.131.18]) by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7911F68471; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 15:12:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3B4C5118.9D99F1C7@webgiro.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 15:14:01 +0200 From: Andrzej Bialecki Organization: WebGiro AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Taylor Cc: "Bruce R. Montague" , freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: picobsd router (oinit,rc) References: <01c701c109a6$e351e220$2a7627cb@pc99101401.bytecraft.au.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Murray Taylor wrote: > > Hi Andrzei, > > I tried a line or two in oinit.rc but got no joy... > > I used > > ifconfig de0 inet 10.1.2.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 > > Either the line was too 'complex' or I goofed somehow > in getting oinit.rc into the right place to be > executed. > > More info on setting it up would be good .. > > (BTW I dont have a memory shortage as I am recycling an > old desktop Pentium-S with 32Meg of ram still onboard) Then you should definitely use some other variant, like bridge or even dial. The 'router' setup is not for the faint of heart, I have to admit... -- Andrzej // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // Andrzej Bialecki , Chief System Architect // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // FreeBSD developer (http://www.freebsd.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jul 11 16:23:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from wombat.bytecraft.au.com (wombat.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F92237B403 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:23:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from taylorm@bytecraft.au.com) Received: from pc99101401.bytecraft.au.com (unknown [203.39.118.42]) by wombat.bytecraft.au.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D16EE3E9F; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:23:16 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <005f01c10a60$bfc23ac0$2a7627cb@pc99101401.bytecraft.au.com> Reply-To: "Murray Taylor" From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Andrzej Bialecki" Cc: "Bruce R. Montague" , Subject: Re: picobsd router (oinit,rc) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:25:19 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a month or two (when the relocation is dust!) I may take up the gauntlet and try to coerce the router version to play nicer .... It wont be a fast stepping of it as I will have a learning cliff to leap up, but I do believe in the pico concept .... It just needs a bit of broadening to mature some more (ie slow down the new code development a bit and increase the configurability and associated docs) Bruce's doc is a major step in the doc direction ... The work of the "small-core" team in tracking code development as FBSD evolves through versions is solid and necessary ... But it is a little bit of a closed world still for the easy deployment of the variants ... (eg router biting me at present) cheers all Murray Taylor Project Manager Bytecraft Systems Pty Ltd ph: +61 3 9587 2555 Fax: +61 3 9587 1614 Email: taylorm@bytecraftsystems.com -----Original Message----- From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Murray Taylor Cc: Bruce R. Montague ; freebsd-small@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, 11 July 2001 23:17 Subject: Re: picobsd router (oinit,rc) >Murray Taylor wrote: >> >> Hi Andrzei, >> >> I tried a line or two in oinit.rc but got no joy... >> >> I used >> >> ifconfig de0 inet 10.1.2.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 >> >> Either the line was too 'complex' or I goofed somehow >> in getting oinit.rc into the right place to be >> executed. >> >> More info on setting it up would be good .. >> >> (BTW I dont have a memory shortage as I am recycling an >> old desktop Pentium-S with 32Meg of ram still onboard) > >Then you should definitely use some other variant, like bridge or even >dial. The 'router' setup is not for the faint of heart, I have to >admit... > >-- > >Andrzej > >// ---------------------------------------------------------------- >// Andrzej Bialecki , Chief System Architect >// WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) >// ---------------------------------------------------------------- >// FreeBSD developer (http://www.freebsd.org) > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Jul 11 22:32:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from www.kozubik.com (www.kozubik.com [166.90.8.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D5337B401 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:32:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@kozubik.com) Received: from localhost (john@localhost) by www.kozubik.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f6C5RC259839 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:27:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@kozubik.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:27:12 -0700 (PDT) From: John Kozubik To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: embedded freeBSD document (DoC, ATA-CF) available Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have written and made available to the FreeBSD documentation project a document on installing and running FreeBSD in embedded environments. The document covers Disk-on-Chip components as well as ATA-compatible compact-flash (sandisk, etc.). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/solid-state/index.html In addition to providing step by step instructions on piecing together filesystems from scratch, etc., information is also provided about changing the operating system to reflect that flash media (normally) should always be read-only and these systems should be run without swap files. Feedback is appreciated. ----- John Kozubik - john@kozubik.com - http://www.kozubik.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Jul 12 0:52: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from tantivy.stanford.edu (tantivy.Stanford.EDU [171.64.234.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC7037B403 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:52:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from techie@tantivy.stanford.edu) Received: (from techie@localhost) by tantivy.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA17210; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:52:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Vaughan Message-Id: <200107120752.AAA17210@tantivy.stanford.edu> To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: problems with small mfs filesystems.. Cc: techie@tantivy.stanford.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to cram picobsd onto an apple airport, and I ran into an interesting problem just now.. I started with the router image, tweaked it for bridging, and am now trying to tune mfs size so it will work.. if I decrease the mfs size in the kernel to 1000kb, i get a error from disklabel: fd1000: unknown disk type building at 1200kb is fine, but i'm running out of swap.. also, anything i should know about pccards and oinit? I'm dealing with a single wavelan card.. is there a way i can omit pccardd? object is to netboot the image onto the airport, and then have the airport run by itself.. i don't want to slave it to a NFS server if i don't have to. -- Welcome My Son, Welcome To The Machine -- Bob Vaughan | techie@{w6yx|tantivy}.stanford.edu | kc6sxc@w6yx.ampr.org | P.O. Box 19792, Stanford, Ca 94309 -- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Jul 13 10:48:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11A9937B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:48:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ijand2@yahoo.com) Received: from 216-53-133-75.ppp.mpinet.net (HELO dhcppc1) (216.53.133.75) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 2001 17:48:31 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:48:21 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v388) From: Jorge Ramirez To: PicoBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.388) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PPPoE support Message-Id: <20010713174832.11A9937B401@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does PicoBSD have PPPoE support? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Jul 13 16: 1:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5664537B401 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:01:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (#6@localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6DN1rr36119; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:01:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200107132301.f6DN1rr36119@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: John Kozubik Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: embedded freeBSD document (DoC, ATA-CF) available References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:27:12 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:01:53 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have written and made available to the FreeBSD documentation project a > document on installing and running FreeBSD in embedded environments. I've built a small FreeBSD-based firewall/NAT box which runs fairly comfortably from an 8MB compact flash card. Two techniques which gain back a bunch of space are: - gzip the kernel, since /boot/loader can uncompress it as it loads. Big win here. - build all of the programs which are usually staticly link to use shared libraries instead. This gains back a bunch of space as well. Since everything lives in a single partition, it's not like the dynamic linker isn't going to be there. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message