From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 3:49:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F4337B71C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:49:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f318Suh17510; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:28:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:27:40 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Gunnar Flygt Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Trying to make /usr/doc Message-ID: <20010401092740.A17494@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010401053220.A41799@sr.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010401053220.A41799@sr.se>; from flygt@sr.se on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 05:32:20AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 05:32:20AM +0200, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > cvsup'ed tonight, and cannot make the doc's anymore. This is the end of > the output, if it can be to any help: Your ports/textproc/docproj port is out of date. > ml:461:12:E: element "TITLE" undefined > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/art= icle.sgml:463:11:E: element "PARA" undefined > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/art= icle.sgml:472:11:E: element "PARA" undefined > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/art= icle.sgml:472:22:E: element "QUOTE" undefined > /usr/local/bin/jade:I: maximum number of errors (200) reached; change wit= h -E option We recently started using the DocBook 4.1 DTD (which is listed as a dependency in recent versions of the docproj/ port). This document needs that DTD, and you don't have it installed. You want to install ports/textproc/docbook-410. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrG5nwACgkQk6gHZCw343Xg8ACfQ7bv/JZeupYVTbc6lSrYLmYN Ok4AniCGNfmrzOQEalZz80ZuoHhF1OGy =uTlZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 3:51: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C2437B71A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:50:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from TARMAP.schulte.org (tarmap.schulte.org [209.134.156.198]) by poontang.schulte.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA33562 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 05:50:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Message-Id: <5.1.0.12.0.20010401052532.02da9868@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.0.12 (Beta) Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 05:50:38 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Christopher Schulte Subject: installworld fails: gnu/usr.bin/groff/devascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What confuses me is I don't see any recent changes made to the CVS Repository which would cause this to fail.... any ideas? Fresh install of 4.2-RELEASE from CD cvsup @ ~10pm 2001-03-31 buildworld ran w/o error installworld failed `expr` is in my path as shown via `which` and I was able to successfully installworld by listing full path to expr (/bin/expr) in gnu/usr.bin/groff/Makefile.tty. Here's the simple diff futon# diff Makefile.tty Makefile.tty.new 15c15 < @(charwidth=`expr $(RES) / $(CPI)` ; \ --- > @(charwidth=`/bin/expr $(RES) / $(CPI)` ; \ ===> gnu/usr.bin/groff/devascii Making R expr: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/devascii. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 -- Christopher Schulte Finger for PGP key, or for UNIX impaired: http://noc.schulte.org/cgi-bin/noc/finger.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 4: 9:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smarthost-1.mail.telinco.net (smarthost-1.mail.telinco.net [212.1.128.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1500337B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 04:09:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from harry_newton@telinco.co.uk) Received: from ppp-1-153.cvx1.telinco.net ([212.1.136.153] helo=basilisk.locus) by smarthost-1.mail.telinco.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14jfje-00076Z-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:09:30 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=basilisk.locus) by basilisk.locus with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14jfj8-0004TZ-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:08:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 17207 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Apr 2001 11:08:58 -0000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: too many segments in DMA table error From: Harry Newton Organization: GAUDEAMUS X-Op.135: Muss es sein ? Es muss sein X-Attribution: HN X-GnuPG-Fingerprint: 497E C8CD 0553 5EB4 1AE3 3BF5 D041 39E0 35E4 7F8B Message-ID: <86itkozxlm.fsf@basilisk.locus> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: 01 Apr 2001 12:08:58 +0100 Lines: 28 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not sure if this is a bug or not. Trying this: $ cd /cdrom $ find . -print | xargs md5 I get the following error messages on the console: ata0-master: too many segments in DMA table acd0: READ_BIG - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=21 ascq=00 error=04 and if I leave it, the machine falls over, and reboots. I tracked it down to a faulty ISO image, caused by a version of mkisofs(8) that I built for 4.2-STABLE; when I rebuilt it and repeated the exeercise, there were absolutely no problems. Q. Should I submit a bug report ? ( FreeBSD basilisk.locus 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Fri Mar 30 20:28:49 BST 2001 harry@basilisk.locus:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BASILISK i386 Thunderbird 1GHz, 256Mb, Asus A7V motherboard, Asus 40x ATAPI cdrom. ) -- Harry Newton harry_newton at telinco.co.uk www.gaudeamus.telinco.co.uk/html/gpg.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 5:12:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE0CA37B71E for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 05:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse_gross@yahoo.com) Received: from dhcp-245.nh.harron.net (HELO jesse1) (63.64.117.245) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2001 12:12:34 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "Jesse Gross" To: Subject: Slow X refresh rate Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 08:12:35 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello I am running FreeBSD 4.2-Stable, and I am having a problem with the refresh rate of X. The mouse jumps around and everything takes a very long time for anything to happen. I saw the kernel patch at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hardware.html#PSMERR. The symptoms seem the same and I have a Logitech M-S48 mouse, but I am not running FreeBSD 3.2 Does anyone know if this is the same problem and I should use the patch, or is it a different problem. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jesse Gross _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 6: 8:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1DB37B71A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 06:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id GAA00549; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 06:00:59 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda00538; Sun Apr 1 06:00:39 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f31D0YH03459; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 06:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdNP3442; Sun Apr 1 05:59:38 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f31Cxbm02711; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 05:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104011259.f31Cxbm02711@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdaD2707; Sun Apr 1 05:59:10 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf leak? fxp? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Apr 2001 06:20:43 +0200." <4hiSybB2jC@dmeyer.dinoex.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 05:59:09 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <4hiSybB2jC@dmeyer.dinoex.sub.org>, Dirk Meyer writes: > Archie Cobbs wrote:, > = > > I have this machine that starts running out of mbufs every few days > > ("looutput: mbuf allocation failed") and then crashes, and was wonder= ing > > if anyone else has seen similar behavior... > > = > > [...] > > = > > It appears that something is slowly eating up mbuf clusters. > > The machine is on a network with continuous but very low volume > > traffic, including some random multicast, NTP, etc. The machine > > itself is doing hardly anything at all. > > = > > (Possibly) relevant information: > > = > > - FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE > > - Ethernet driver is fxp(4) > > - Using ipfw(4) and divert(4) > > - mysql is running, which uses a UNIX domain socket > > = > > (Possibly) relevant clue: > > = > > - We have other machines configured almost identically but which > > are not using the fxp(4) driver (and which are handling lots more= > > traffic) that don't show this problem. > > = > > Any ideas?? I wonder if there's some obscure error condition in the > > fxp(4) driver that has a memory leak. > = > I saw somthing similar with "Ethernet driver de(4)" > A bad workaround seem to be a daily call to: > = > ifconfig down > ifconfig up > = > I reported it, but nobody had summiten any followup yet: > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D24949 I've had this problem with a 3C509B card, ep(4) driver. It would get = locked up when sending data to a much slower machine. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 6: 8:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F4337B71D for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 06:08:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id GAA00565; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 06:06:59 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda00563; Sun Apr 1 06:06:41 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f31D6aE03485; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdVo3483; Sun Apr 1 06:06:15 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f31D3bi02771; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 06:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104011303.f31D3bi02771@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdvg2767; Sun Apr 1 06:03:29 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , "Ron Klinkien" , "Dan Larsson" , "FreeBSD Stable List" Subject: Re: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:22:58 CST." <05a301c0ba63$6e9bb240$931576d8@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 06:03:28 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <05a301c0ba63$6e9bb240$931576d8@inethouston.net>, "David W. Chapman Jr." writes: > does that have anything to do with this > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/apache13/files/patch-util.c Yes Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" > To: "Ron Klinkien" > Cc: "Dan Larsson" ; "FreeBSD Stable List" > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 7:12 PM > Subject: Re: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC > > > > why that? if dns works... it should not be a problem. > > that issue puzzles me a bit > > /k > > > > Ron Klinkien(ron@zappa.demon.nl)@2001.03.30 22:28:49 +0000: > > > Make sure your /etc/hosts file is up to date. ie. it > > > lists the ip adress of the host you run apache on. > > > > > > Ron. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dan Larsson" > > > To: "FreeBSD Stable List" > > > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:50 PM > > > Subject: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a clue why I get these segfaults? > > > > > > > > (The apache port installed is /usr/ports/www/apache13 with no > > > > optimizations or extra modules) > > > > > > > > I have attached the debug and dmesg. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > +------ > > > > Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 > > > > Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 > > > > GPG and PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > > "I didn't change a thing and from the moment I didn't change it, > > > it didn't work anymore." -- Anonymous > > KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 7:52:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6350037B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 07:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f31EqDw06368 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:52:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:52:13 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Subject: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. A little stupid story ... Here at my institute for atmospheric research we have to parties: the party of mine for our backbone servers, prefering FreeBSD and those, reading nice papers and watching the nice PR magazines introducing Linux as the best choice for academic research server systems. I can not explain how hard it is to convince others not to use Linux for our main backbone and use instead FreeBSD (our department for nuclear physiscs did this step (Linux -> FreeBSD) and they are really happy now ...). Our computing center offers Linux Suse 7.1 with kernel 2.2.18 at the moment as its favorite choice and my chief got theses days his new computer and due the fact that many Fortran 90 based libraries and compilers are primarily released and offered for Linux he wished to get Linux (he is not very convinced about the FreeBD emulation although many software, inclusive StarOffice he uses every day is under FBSD and Linux emulation without any problems up today ;-)). Well, one of the responsible admins came and tried to install Linux Suse 7.1 on his new machine. A night before I wished to test the hardware and would like to see what FreeBSD will do with the hardware (ABIT BX133 mainboard, 512 MB PC133-Cl3 RAM, 30 GB Fujitsu drive attached to the HPT370 ATA-100/RAID controller, 1GHz Intel PIII CPU, ATI Rage128 with DVI-socket and TFT display, ATAPI-DVD and ATAPI CDROM burner). Within 15 minutes FreeBSD occuppied the machine and a running system has been installed. The CD I installed with was from last year, FBSD 4.2-STABLE (IOS-Image) as dated from 22.11.2000. Same procedure was done on a second, identical machine with one difference, a IOMEGA ZIP 250 drive. Well, I was really surprised due the fact that I expected several problems with new hardware or some problems with the ATA100 controller. A day ahead the came and wished to delete FreeBSD in replacement with Linux Suse 7.1. The result of this day was (it was Friday last week ...): 10:30 am they came and prepared for the installation. 19:00 in the evening they were not ready with installation after several hardware changes, tricks, new kernels and other twaekings ... SuSe Linux 7.1 wasn't able to occuppy this machine although the professionals accused FreeBSD's installation routine to be very user unfriednly and does not support most hardware ... Well, this weekend I slept very good ... 15 minutes compared to more than eight hours of installation ... ;-) Oliver -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 8:32:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.236.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8911637B719 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 08:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu (ANNEX-3.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.3]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f31FTFr27725; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 11:29:03 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <86430000.986138943@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, April 01, 2001 16:52:13 +0200, "Hartmann, O." wrote: +----- | 10:30 am they came and prepared for the installation. 19:00 in the | evening they were not ready with installation after several hardware | changes, tricks, new kernels and other twaekings ... SuSe Linux 7.1 | wasn't able to occuppy this machine although the professionals accused +--->8 As much as I prefer FreeBSD over Linux, I think you have more proof of moron "installers" there; we have both FreeBSD and SuSE Linux (and I personally support the latter, including 7.1), and neither has any such problems in my experience. Both support mostly the same hardware. (SuSE and Debian go a long way toward making Linux tolerable, if not the quality OS that FreeBSD is.) -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 8:53:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snapper.lansters.com (21-155-124-64.dsl.lan2wan.com [64.124.155.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E08A37B71A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 08:53:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) Received: from lucky (lucky.lansters.com [10.1.0.2]) by snapper.lansters.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id f31FrV301258 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:53:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) From: "Jason T. Luttgens" To: Subject: Network performance question Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:53:02 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c0bac3$d6027c10$0200010a@lucky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all. I've been doing some network capture performance testing with FreeBSD 4.3 RC vs. Linux 2.2.18 and 2.4.3. Basically I captured a few hours traffic at my local network and I'm using tcpreplay to re-send the packets on the network. Tcpreplay sends the packets out at a rate of 20000 packets/second. I have another computer that is multi-boot where I do a tcpdump to listen to the packets on the network and write them to a file (tcpdump -n -w test) The listening system is a Pentuim III 800, 256MB RAM, 3COM 3C905B-TX net card.... Linux 2.2.18 fails miserably to capture all the packets, and I get a lot of "too much work at interrupt" kernel messages. It only sees about half of the packets. Linux 2.4.3 performs very well - in most cases captures all packets with no interface errors. FreeBSD kinda disappointed me. It gets ~1000 interface errors on about 514000 packets. I switched the 3COM card out for a NetGear FA311 (sis driver). After receiving ~310000 packets, the network goes down (can't ping/telnet anywhere). At that point I have to ifconfig down and up the interface to get it back. Now maybe this method of testing is not proper, or there is something on the FreeBSD box I can tweak - but at this point, I'm inclined to think that Linux 2.4.3 handles high network loads better than FreeBSD. Can someone comment on this? Thanks, Jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 10:21:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005AA37B71F for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 10:21:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B893110F400; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:21:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <009901c0bad3$3e708080$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Jason T. Luttgens" , References: <000001c0bac3$d6027c10$0200010a@lucky> Subject: Re: Network performance question Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:43:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > FreeBSD kinda disappointed me. It gets ~1000 interface errors on about > 514000 packets. I switched the 3COM card out for a NetGear FA311 (sis > driver). After receiving ~310000 packets, the network goes down (can't > ping/telnet anywhere). At that point I have to ifconfig down and up the > interface to get it back. This is why 3com and intel cards are more expensive, I would try an intel 10/100, I hear its got very good support. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 10:26:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E47237B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 10:26:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f31HPSC00996; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 10:25:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200104011725.f31HPSC00996@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: "Jason T. Luttgens" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network performance question In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:43:21 CDT." <009901c0bad3$3e708080$931576d8@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 10:25:28 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > FreeBSD kinda disappointed me. It gets ~1000 interface errors on about > > 514000 packets. I switched the 3COM card out for a NetGear FA311 (sis > > driver). After receiving ~310000 packets, the network goes down (can't > > ping/telnet anywhere). At that point I have to ifconfig down and up the > > interface to get it back. You're disappointed in *FreeBSD* because of this? These are *hardware* failures you're describing here... -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 11: 3: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B4637B71A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f31I7SK76038; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:07:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 13:07:28 -0500 (CDT) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: Jesse Gross Subject: Re: Slow X refresh rate Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 01-Apr-2001 Jesse Gross wrote: > Hello > > I am running FreeBSD 4.2-Stable, and I am having a problem with the refresh > rate of X. The mouse jumps around and everything takes a very long time for > anything to happen. I saw the kernel patch at > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hardware.html#PSMERR. The symptoms seem the same > and I have a Logitech M-S48 mouse, but I am not running FreeBSD 3.2 Does > anyone know if this is the same problem and I should use the patch, or is it > a different problem. Any help is greatly appreciated. Sounds lke your mouse configuration for X may not be correct. Could you post your XF86Config? -- Conrad Sabatier conrads@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 11: 7:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214FC37B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:07:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f31IBr676061; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:11:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200103312244.f2VMiE927389@cwsys.cwsent.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 13:11:53 -0500 (CDT) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Subject: Re: quick kernel compiles Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, j mckitrick Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 31-Mar-2001 Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > In message <20010331233043.A70972@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>, j mckitrick > writes: >> >> cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf >> /usr/sbin/config MARS >> cd ../../compile/MARS >> make depend && make && make install >> >> but now it is taking WAY longer than it used to. >> >> should i use this same sequence, only with NO_MODULES? >> or is there another way? > > To skip making any modules do the following instead of a full make && > make install. > > make depend && make kernel && make kernel-install A much easier way is to set the environment variable MODULES_WITH_WORLD=true in /etc/make.conf. -- Conrad Sabatier conrads@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 11:40:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46FB37B718; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f31I0qv00354; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:00:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:59:37 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: stable@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT Message-ID: <20010401185936.A322@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've pulled down the RC2 candidate, and have it on CD on one machine, which I'm then using as the source of an FTP install to another machine (which has a non-functional CDROM, natch). INSTALL.TXT in the root of the release says [...] 1.1 Installing from a network CDROM --- ------------------------------- If you simply wish to install from a local CDROM drive then see the Quick Start section. If you don't have a CDROM drive on your system and wish to use a FreeBSD distribution CD in the CDROM drive of another system to which you have network connectivity, there are also several ways of going about it: 1. If you would be able to FTP install FreeBSD directly from the CDROM drive in some FreeBSD machine, it's quite easy: You simply add the following line to the password file (using the vipw command): ftp:*:99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin And anyone else on your network will now be able to choose a Media type of FTP and type in: ``ftp://'' after picking "URL" in the ftp sites menu. [...] Not strictly true. 1. You need to give the ftp user a password, or quote the line as [...] ftp::99:00::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin Warning: This may allow anyone on the local network (or Internet) to FTP to your machine, which may not be desirable. If so, use passwd(1) to assign a password to the "ftp" user. 2. sysinstall can't find the release. Looking at the debug terminal it tries various versions of pub/FreeBSD, /FreeBSD, and so on. You need to go in to the options menu and set the release name to "any". This is documented inside sysinstall. We should probably add You will also need to set the release name to "any" in the installer's "Options" menu for this to work. to INSTALL.TXT. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrHbIgACgkQk6gHZCw343XbGwCfRwyjtyH7y0Atz5u2woY1SIFe LzQAoIJ+8rQjCnWGYamBNUeQM3iJW/xy =eoBM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 11:45:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snapper.lansters.com (21-155-124-64.dsl.lan2wan.com [64.124.155.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EF737B71A; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:45:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) Received: from lucky (lucky.lansters.com [10.1.0.2]) by snapper.lansters.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id f31Ijg326649; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:45:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) From: "Jason T. Luttgens" To: "'Mike Smith'" , "'David W. Chapman Jr.'" Cc: Subject: RE: Network performance question Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:45:16 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c0badb$e4f4da70$0200010a@lucky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-reply-to: <200104011725.f31HPSC00996@mass.dis.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----Original Message----- From: Mike Smith [mailto:msmith@freebsd.org] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 1:25 PM To: David W. Chapman Jr. Cc: Jason T. Luttgens; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network performance question > > FreeBSD kinda disappointed me. It gets ~1000 interface errors on about > > 514000 packets. I switched the 3COM card out for a NetGear FA311 (sis > > driver). After receiving ~310000 packets, the network goes down (can't > > ping/telnet anywhere). At that point I have to ifconfig down and up the > > interface to get it back. >You're disappointed in *FreeBSD* because of this? These are *hardware* >failures you're describing here... Hmm....so the Linux 2.4.3 kernel is somehow accessing the hardware as to not cause hardware failures then? Jason >-- >... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his >rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want >to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force >people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] > V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 11:55:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6040D37B719 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:55:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from mail2.uniserve.com ([204.244.156.10]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14jn0n-000AAh-00; Sun, 01 Apr 2001 11:55:41 -0700 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:55:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca To: "Jason T. Luttgens" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network performance question In-Reply-To: <000001c0bac3$d6027c10$0200010a@lucky> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Jason T. Luttgens wrote: > packets/second. I have another computer that is multi-boot where I do a > tcpdump to listen to the packets on the network and write them to a file > (tcpdump -n -w test) ... > Now maybe this method of testing is not proper, or there is something on the > FreeBSD box I can tweak - but at this point, I'm inclined to think that > Linux 2.4.3 handles high network loads better than FreeBSD. Can someone > comment on this? Running a network card in promiscious mode is rather atypical. So I would say, yes, your testing methodology isn't really testing high network load. You are testing your NIC and NIC drivers ability to run in promiscious mode only. None of that traffic is even going to the IP/TCP layer of the OS. > Thanks, > Jason Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 11:57:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D320337B718; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:57:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DBE84A91A; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:56:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:56:22 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: "Jason T. Luttgens" Cc: 'Mike Smith' , "'David W. Chapman Jr.'" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network performance question Message-ID: <20010401135622.A16910@cec.wustl.edu> References: <200104011725.f31HPSC00996@mass.dis.org> <000001c0badb$e4f4da70$0200010a@lucky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000001c0badb$e4f4da70$0200010a@lucky>; from lucky@lansters.com on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 02:45:16PM -0400 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 02:45:16PM -0400, Jason T. Luttgens wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Smith [mailto:msmith@freebsd.org] > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 1:25 PM > To: David W. Chapman Jr. > Cc: Jason T. Luttgens; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Network performance question > > > > > FreeBSD kinda disappointed me. It gets ~1000 interface errors on about > > > 514000 packets. I switched the 3COM card out for a NetGear FA311 (sis > > > driver). After receiving ~310000 packets, the network goes down (can't > > > ping/telnet anywhere). At that point I have to ifconfig down and up the > > > interface to get it back. > > >You're disappointed in *FreeBSD* because of this? These are *hardware* > >failures you're describing here... > > Hmm....so the Linux 2.4.3 kernel is somehow accessing the hardware as to not > cause hardware failures then? That's not it at all. Remember, FreeBSD and Linux can grab packets just as fast as they come into the interface... the processor is many times faster than the network card. This is definitely a hardware issue, packets are coming too fast to handle. I'd be willing to bet that Linux simply ignores the interface errors, rather than reporting them. I think what you're seeing is not that Linux handles networking better than FreeBSD, but instead that FreeBSD is more verbose in its error reporting. The important thing to remember here is that the card--not the OS--determines whether or not to drop packets. Even at 100 Mbps, a typical processor only has to poll the card 1/10 to 1/8 of the time in order to catch every bit coming in. I should point out that virtually every real-world networking test shows FreeBSD outperforms comparably configured Linux. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 12:13: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E1B37B71C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from TARMAP.schulte.org (tarmap.schulte.org [209.134.156.198]) by poontang.schulte.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA53686 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:12:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Message-Id: <5.1.0.12.0.20010401135918.02da99a8@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.0.12 (Beta) Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 14:12:40 -0500 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: installworld fails: gnu/usr.bin/groff/devascii In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.12.0.20010401052532.02da9868@pop.schulte.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As a follow up, I spoke too soon when I said I was able to installworld after making changes to Makefile.tty. At least 2 or 3 more times did installworld fail, with various 'not found' type errors when looking for binaries such as mkdir and pod2man. Each time I was able to edit the appropriate Makefile with an explicit path, and the install would subsequently step further. The only reason I'm even posting to the list is that I've done the 4.2-RELEASE -> 4.x-STABLE procedure a dozen or more times just like this, and never once came across this type of situation.... In src/Makefile.inc1 I see: installworld: mkdir -p ${INSTALLTMP} for prog in [ awk cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find grep \ install ln make makewhatis mtree mv perl rm sed sh sysctl \ test true uname wc zic; do \ cp `which $$prog` ${INSTALLTMP}; \ done Which appears to copy critical utilities used in the install process into a tmp dir. Would it have helped to include expr, mkdir and pod2man in this list? Does installworld perhaps drop the shell's path and only know how to find programs in this tmp directory? At 05:50 AM 4/1/2001 -0500, you wrote: >What confuses me is I don't see any recent changes made to the CVS >Repository which would cause this to fail.... any ideas? > >Fresh install of 4.2-RELEASE from CD >cvsup @ ~10pm 2001-03-31 >buildworld ran w/o error >installworld failed > >`expr` is in my path as shown via `which` and I was able to successfully >installworld by listing full path to expr (/bin/expr) in >gnu/usr.bin/groff/Makefile.tty. > >Here's the simple diff > >futon# diff Makefile.tty Makefile.tty.new >15c15 >< @(charwidth=`expr $(RES) / $(CPI)` ; \ >--- > > @(charwidth=`/bin/expr $(RES) / $(CPI)` ; \ > >===> gnu/usr.bin/groff/devascii >Making R >expr: not found >*** Error code 127 > >Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/devascii. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src/gnu. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src. >*** Error code 1 -- Christopher Schulte Finger for PGP key, or for UNIX impaired: http://noc.schulte.org/cgi-bin/noc/finger.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 12:22:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from narf.osd.bsdi.com (narf.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D99337B71A; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:22:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from narf.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narf.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f31JKMf81076; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:20:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> To: Nik Clayton Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT In-Reply-To: Message from Nik Clayton of "Sun, 01 Apr 2001 18:59:37 BST." <20010401185936.A322@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:20:22 -0700 From: Jordan K Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Man, people are still reading those instructions? :-) I agree that they're wrong but I'm about to go off the air for 4 days in about 10 minutes here so I can't fix them myself. If anyone would care to do the honors, I'd appreciate it. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 12:35: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snapper.lansters.com (21-155-124-64.dsl.lan2wan.com [64.124.155.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4F537B71B; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:35:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) Received: from lucky (lucky.lansters.com [10.1.0.2]) by snapper.lansters.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id f31JZ3h00744; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:35:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) From: "Jason T. Luttgens" To: "'Andrew Hesford'" Cc: "'Mike Smith'" , "'David W. Chapman Jr.'" , Subject: RE: Network performance question Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:34:35 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c0bae2$c8c7dad0$0200010a@lucky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010401135622.A16910@cec.wustl.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Hmm....so the Linux 2.4.3 kernel is somehow accessing the hardware as to not >> cause hardware failures then? > >That's not it at all. Remember, FreeBSD and Linux can grab packets just >as fast as they come into the interface... the processor is many times >faster than the network card. > >This is definitely a hardware issue, packets are coming too fast to >handle. I'd be willing to bet that Linux simply ignores the interface >errors, rather than reporting them. > >I think what you're seeing is not that Linux handles networking better >than FreeBSD, but instead that FreeBSD is more verbose in its error >reporting. The important thing to remember here is that the card--not >the OS--determines whether or not to drop packets. Even at 100 Mbps, a >typical processor only has to poll the card 1/10 to 1/8 of the time in >order to catch every bit coming in. Good point. One of the things I was using to judge performance was how big of a file the tcpdump on the listening machine recorded under each OS (and the number of packets reported). But maybe this is not the right way to do this.... So, what would be a good way to test the performace differences between Linux 2.2, 2.4 and FreeBSD as a device to capture 100% packets off the wire and not miss any? > >I should point out that virtually every real-world networking test shows >FreeBSD outperforms comparably configured Linux. >-- >Andrew Hesford >ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 12:54:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from stargate.compuware.com (stargate.compuware.com [166.90.248.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A780A37B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from driehuis@playbeing.org) Received: from [199.186.16.12] by stargate.compuware.com via smtpd (for hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 1 Apr 2001 19:54:28 UT Received: from bh1.compuware.com (compuware.com [172.22.1.239]) by cwus-dtw-mr02.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28A574C21; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from trashcan.nl.compuware.com ([172.16.16.52]) by bh1.compuware.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HWM0ZBF5; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:54:17 -0400 Received: from c1111.nl.compuware.com (c1111.nl.compuware.com [172.16.16.36]) by trashcan.nl.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48300145A4; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:54:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:54:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Bert Driehuis X-Sender: bertd@c1111.nl.compuware.com To: "Jason T. Luttgens" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Network performance question In-Reply-To: <000001c0bae2$c8c7dad0$0200010a@lucky> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Jason T. Luttgens wrote: > One of the things I was using to judge performance was how big of a file the > tcpdump on the listening machine recorded under each OS (and the number of > packets reported). But maybe this is not the right way to do this.... Definitely not :-) > So, what would be a good way to test the performace differences between > Linux 2.2, 2.4 and FreeBSD as a device to capture 100% packets off the wire > and not miss any? Send a predictable load to the device under test (say, include a sequence number) and use that to determine packet loss (and, also interesting, packet loss patterns). You will also have to repeat the test with different cards on each OS. It is more than conceivable that one OS has better workarounds for specific ethernet hardware bugs than another, or even that different trade-offs were made for performance vs reliability. A case in point is the 3Com 3C905TX, which has a hardware bug that causes the device to lock up if the receive buffer fills beyond a certain limit. Limiting the buffer size has an obvious impact on throughput, but can make the card continue to work where it fails if left unchecked. Since vendors keep such hardware bugs under wraps, not all implementors may even be aware of the bugs, and that can hardly be blamed on them. As a sideline, I think this policy by the hardware vendors is counterproductive for them. If they just published the bugs and workarounds for it (and avoid overhyping their device, so that it still complies to the minimum specs specs after the workarounds are applied), I think they'd be better protected against ravenous lawyers than if they hide the problems until the truth is forced out in court (as in the floppy controller disaster that cost some vendors huge amounts of money). Oh well... Cheers, -- Bert -- Bert Driehuis -- driehuis@playbeing.org -- +31-20-3116119 If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 13:11:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snapper.lansters.com (21-155-124-64.dsl.lan2wan.com [64.124.155.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE4537B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:11:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) Received: from lucky (lucky.lansters.com [10.1.0.2]) by snapper.lansters.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id f31KB7h01146; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:11:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) From: "Jason T. Luttgens" To: "'Bert Driehuis'" Cc: Subject: RE: Network performance question Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:10:39 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c0bae7$d315d910$0200010a@lucky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> One of the things I was using to judge performance was how big of a file the >> tcpdump on the listening machine recorded under each OS (and the number of >> packets reported). But maybe this is not the right way to do this.... > >Definitely not :-) > >> So, what would be a good way to test the performace differences between >> Linux 2.2, 2.4 and FreeBSD as a device to capture 100% packets off the wire >> and not miss any? >Send a predictable load to the device under test (say, include a >sequence number) and use that to determine packet loss (and, also >interesting, packet loss patterns). Well, I thought that I was doing this by using a known set of data from the tcpdump I captured earlier and was replaying. Each time it replays, it is the same number of packets and payload content. The network I am testing on is isolated (not connected to anything else but these two computers). I'm not sure I see the difference between what you describe and what I did. What do I need to do to create the environment you mention? >You will also have to repeat the test with different cards on each >OS. It is more than conceivable that one OS has better workarounds for >specific ethernet hardware bugs than another, or even that different >trade-offs were made for performance vs reliability. > >A case in point is the 3Com 3C905TX, which has a hardware bug that >causes the device to lock up if the receive buffer fills beyond a >certain limit. Limiting the buffer size has an obvious impact on >throughput, but can make the card continue to work where it fails if >left unchecked. > >Since vendors keep such hardware bugs under wraps, not all implementors >may even be aware of the bugs, and that can hardly be blamed on them. >As >a sideline, I think this policy by the hardware vendors is >counterproductive for them. If they just published the bugs and >workarounds for it (and avoid overhyping their device, so that it still >complies to the minimum specs specs after the workarounds are applied), >I think they'd be better protected against ravenous lawyers than if they >hide the problems until the truth is forced out in court (as in the >floppy controller disaster that cost some vendors huge amounts of >money). Oh well... > >Cheers, > > -- Bert > >-- >Bert Driehuis -- driehuis@playbeing.org -- +31-20-3116119 >If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 13:26:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B80537B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:26:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14joQf-000HgY-00; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:26:29 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f31KQR031595; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:26:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:26:27 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: quick kernel compiles Message-ID: <20010401212627.A30546@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <200103312244.f2VMiE927389@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from conrads@home.com on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 01:11:53PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 01:11:53PM -0500, Conrad Sabatier wrote: | | On 31-Mar-2001 Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: | > In message <20010331233043.A70972@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>, j mckitrick | > writes: | >> | >> cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf | >> /usr/sbin/config MARS | >> cd ../../compile/MARS | >> make depend && make && make install | >> | >> but now it is taking WAY longer than it used to. | >> | >> should i use this same sequence, only with NO_MODULES? | >> or is there another way? | > | > To skip making any modules do the following instead of a full make && | > make install. | > | > make depend && make kernel && make kernel-install | | A much easier way is to set the environment variable MODULES_WITH_WORLD=true | in /etc/make.conf. And then i just use 'make kernel' after that ? jm -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org "It took the computing power of three C-64s to fly to the Moon. It takes a 486 to run Windows 95. Something is wrong here." --------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 13:36:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from stargate.compuware.com (stargate.compuware.com [166.90.248.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D478937B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:36:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from driehuis@playbeing.org) Received: from [199.186.16.12] by stargate.compuware.com via smtpd (for hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 1 Apr 2001 20:36:45 UT Received: from bh1.compuware.com (compuware.com [172.22.1.239]) by cwus-dtw-mr02.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2CE74C41; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:36:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from trashcan.nl.compuware.com ([172.16.16.52]) by bh1.compuware.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HWM0ZB67; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:36:44 -0400 Received: from c1111.nl.compuware.com (c1111.nl.compuware.com [172.16.16.36]) by trashcan.nl.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5F7145A4; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:36:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:36:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Bert Driehuis X-Sender: bertd@c1111.nl.compuware.com To: "Jason T. Luttgens" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Network performance question In-Reply-To: <000001c0bae7$d315d910$0200010a@lucky> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Jason T. Luttgens wrote: > >Send a predictable load to the device under test (say, include a > >sequence number) and use that to determine packet loss (and, also > >interesting, packet loss patterns). > > Well, I thought that I was doing this by using a known set of data from the > tcpdump I captured earlier and was replaying. Each time it replays, it is > the same number of packets and payload content. The network I am testing on > is isolated (not connected to anything else but these two computers). > > I'm not sure I see the difference between what you describe and what I did. > What do I need to do to create the environment you mention? Number the packets sequentially, and read the tcpdump recording on the receiving end. There is a huge difference between a driver crapping out halfway through or one dropping every twelfth packet. I've seen Ethernet drivers shut down for an X amount of time until a deadman timer restarts it, and finding gaps in the data is an indication of that. Cheers, -- Bert -- Bert Driehuis -- driehuis@playbeing.org -- +31-20-3116119 If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 14:19:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from carmel.diva.nl (carmel.diva.nl [195.86.140.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2AB37B71A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:19:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boland@carmel.diva.nl) Received: from localhost (boland@localhost) by carmel.diva.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f31LJFY00478 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:19:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:19:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Michiel Boland To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: sysinstall: minor typo in X11 fonts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1915387125-986159955=:427" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. 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Cardona" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <20010401173846.A19749@marx.marvic.chum> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <86430000.986138943@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <86430000.986138943@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu>; from allbery@ece.cmu.edu on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 11:29:03AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 11:29:03AM -0400, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: > As much as I prefer FreeBSD over Linux, I think you have more proof of > moron "installers" there; we have both FreeBSD and SuSE Linux (and I > personally support the latter, including 7.1), and neither has any such > problems in my experience. Both support mostly the same hardware. > > (SuSE and Debian go a long way toward making Linux tolerable, if not the > quality OS that FreeBSD is.) I have to second that. I use SuSE on my workstations, and FreeBSD on servers, and am happy with both. - v -- Victor R. Cardona vcardona@home.com "Behold the keyboard of Kahless, the greatest Klingon code warrior that ever lived!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 15:52:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dojo.tao.ca (tao.ca [198.96.117.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE9837B71D for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anarcat@tao.ca) Received: by dojo.tao.ca (Postfix, from local user) id 30E754E86; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:52:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:52:31 -0500 From: anarcat To: Postfix-current maintainer Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Can't build posfix-current: fails at patching Message-ID: <20010401175231.A1759@dojo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Uptime: 5:42pm up 57 days, 19:28, 7 users, load average: 0.56, 0.45, 0.39 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. (cc'd to -stable since we're in RC mode and this is a kinda major port... :) I can't seem to be able to build the postfix (normal and -current) ports. =3D=3D=3D> Patching for postfix-20010228_6 cd /usr/ports/mail/postfix-current/work/snapshot-20010228 && ln -s . postfix =3D=3D=3D> Applying distribution patches for postfix-20010228_6 =3D=3D=3D> Applying extra patch /usr/ports/mail/postfix-current/work/pfixtls-0.6.38-snap20010225-0.9.6/pfix= tls.diff 3 out of 4 hunks failed--saving rejects to src/global/Makefile.in.rej 1 out of 5 hunks failed--saving rejects to src/smtp/smtp_connect.c.rej *** Error code 4 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/postfix-current. I cvsup's my port collection last night.=20 I attached the Makefile.inc file for more info. A. --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrHsS4ACgkQ7uV99pHLOSIiegCaA/jiWQPwla/szu61ufltcokH x3AAnRbAU+1ctm3wpMLMJG1f5XxiCpY8 =c9O1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 15:55:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CDC37B71C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:55:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB6110F410; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:55:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <018801c0bb01$e45dfc60$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "anarcat" Cc: References: <20010401175231.A1759@dojo> Subject: Re: Can't build posfix-current: fails at patching Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:17:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did you happen to build with ipv6 and tls? ----- Original Message ----- From: "anarcat" To: "Postfix-current maintainer" Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: Can't build posfix-current: fails at patching To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 16:32:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D116737B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01778 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010401162739.00c70ee0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 16:32:14 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Subject: 4.3-RC2: Boot manager always installed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just done an install of 4.3-RC2 on a clean disk. I asked for a "Standard" MBR (which, I expected, would just boot from the first active partition on the first drive), but after an install and a reboot I was prompted to press "F1" to boot from the first drive or "F5" to boot from the second. Why? Have also encountered occasional hangs in /stand/sysinstall during post-install configuration. This occurred once while I was setting the root password and once when I asked to look at the HTML docs to check some settings. Machine is a 200 MHz P5 with MMX and an fxp Ethernet adapter; very generic. --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 16:34:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43F037B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:34:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14CB10F410; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:34:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <01cf01c0bb07$4dfa7a40$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "anarcat" , References: <20010401175231.A1759@dojo> <018801c0bb01$e45dfc60$931576d8@inethouston.net> <20010401182520.A2545@dojo> Subject: Re: Can't build posfix-current: fails at patching Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:56:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG currently tls incompatible with ipv6. This is because the patches are maintained by separate people. ----- Original Message ----- From: "anarcat" To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Can't build posfix-current: fails at patching Yes. As I said, I will attach my Makefile.inc file... ;) I forgot the last time... A. On Sun, 01 Apr 2001, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > Did you happen to build with ipv6 and tls? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anarcat" > To: "Postfix-current maintainer" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 5:52 PM > Subject: Can't build posfix-current: fails at patching > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 16:36:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from arg1.demon.co.uk (arg1.demon.co.uk [194.222.34.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975DB37B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:36:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arg@arg1.demon.co.uk) Received: by arg1.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 300) id 123259B14; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:36:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arg1.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D8C5D12; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:36:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:36:31 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Gordon X-Sender: arg@server.arg.sj.co.uk To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: grog@lemis.com Subject: 4.3-RC processes stuck sleeping on "inode" (?vinum) problem update Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Further to my previous report: - This is definitely a problem in 4.3RC: I rolled back to 31st Jan sources (world & kernel), and the system has now been up for 36 hours (as opposed to at most 6 hours running 4.3RC). - New evidence makes me lean towards thinking that Vinum is responsible (though this is by no means conclusive): 1. I had previously only had my nfsd processes getting stuck (plus the 'reboot' process itself if I tried to reboot), however, while doing a 'cvs checkout' onto the vinum filesystem to build my jan31 world, the cvs process got stuck in "inode" too. 2. That same cvs checkout completed OK on a non-vinum filesystem. 3. I have just noticed in my console logs, that in the "ps" output showing the nfsd processes stuck in "inode", the "(syncer)" process is stuck in "vrlock" which is a vinum wait channel. Report proforma from http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/how-to-debug.html ** What problems are you having? Processes stuck sleeping on "inode" - usually the "nfsd" process as this box's primary work is as a fileserver. ** Which version of FreeBSD are you running? 4.x-STABLE. Version from 24 March shows the problem, 31st January does not. ** Have you made any changes to the system sources, including Vinum? isdn4bsd sources in this build tree have been updated to -CURRENT, but the machine showing the bug does not have isdn in the kernel (nor any ISDN hardware). ** Supply the output of the vinum list command. serv20(root)# vinum list 5 drives: D drive0 State: up Device /dev/da0s1aAvail: 0/17500 MB (0%) D drive1 State: up Device /dev/da1s1a Avail: 0/17500 MB (0%) D drive2 State: up Device /dev/da2s1a Avail: 0/17500 MB (0%) D drive3 State: up Device /dev/da3s1a Avail: 0/17500 MB (0%) D drive4 State: up Device /dev/da4s1a Avail: 0/17500 MB (0%) 1 volumes: V home State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 68 GB 1 plexes: P home.p0 R5 State: up Subdisks: 5 Size: 68 GB 5 subdisks: S home.p0.s0 State: up PO: 0 B Size: 17 GB S home.p0.s1 State: up PO: 512 kB Size: 17 GB S home.p0.s2 State: up PO: 1024 kB Size: 17 GB S home.p0.s3 State: up PO: 1536 kB Size: 17 GB S home.p0.s4 State: up PO: 2048 kB Size: 17 GB ** Supply an extract of the Vinum history file. 29 Mar 2001 21:16:16.489308 quit 29 Mar 2001 21:31:05.467472 *** vinum started *** 29 Mar 2001 21:31:05.473094 start 29 Mar 2001 21:31:07.982066 *** Created devices *** 30 Mar 2001 09:30:57.334342 *** vinum started *** 30 Mar 2001 09:30:57.350901 start 30 Mar 2001 09:30:59.852519 *** Created devices *** 30 Mar 2001 10:31:39.452862 *** vinum started *** 30 Mar 2001 10:31:39.458490 start 30 Mar 2001 10:31:41.937394 *** Created devices *** 2 Apr 2001 00:27:33.416553 *** vinum started *** 2 Apr 2001 00:27:40.083946 *** vinum started *** [Note: no vinum admin was done in the period. Logging doesn't seem to be very consistent: whether or not you get "vinum started" in the log on reboot seems to depend on whether you needed to go to single-user for manual fsck]. ** Supply an extract of the file /var/log/messages. There really isn't anything interesting in /var/log/messages: just normal boot-up dmesg output, plus the odd: Mar 30 10:31:54 serv20 /kernel: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted ** If you have a crash, please supply a backtrace from the dump No crash - the system normally remains fully operational when the problem occurs, apart from a few processes stuck sleeping on "inode". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 17:12:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4515637B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:12:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 828156ACB7; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:42:08 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:42:08 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Andrew Gordon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3-RC processes stuck sleeping on "inode" (?vinum) problem update Message-ID: <20010402094208.D73090@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from arg@arg1.demon.co.uk on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:36:31AM +0100 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 2 April 2001 at 0:36:31 +0100, Andrew Gordon wrote: > > Further to my previous report: > > - This is definitely a problem in 4.3RC: I rolled back to 31st Jan > sources (world & kernel), and the system has now been up for 36 hours > (as opposed to at most 6 hours running 4.3RC). > > - New evidence makes me lean towards thinking that Vinum is responsible > (though this is by no means conclusive): > > 1. I had previously only had my nfsd processes getting stuck > (plus the 'reboot' process itself if I tried to reboot), > however, while doing a 'cvs checkout' onto the vinum filesystem > to build my jan31 world, the cvs process got stuck in "inode" too. > > 2. That same cvs checkout completed OK on a non-vinum filesystem. > > 3. I have just noticed in my console logs, that in the "ps" > output showing the nfsd processes stuck in "inode", > the "(syncer)" process is stuck in "vrlock" which is a > vinum wait channel. Hmm. This is pretty conclusive. It's a deadlock. Tor Egge reported a possible cause of this kind of deadlock. I've been testing a fix, but I'm not sure it doesn't have side effects. Try this (in /usr/src/sys/dev/vinum), then rebuild the kernel module (in /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum), stop and restart vinum, and see if it helps: RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumlock.c,v retrieving revision 1.18.2.2 diff -w -u -r1.18.2.2 vinumlock.c --- vinumlock.c 2001/03/13 02:59:43 1.18.2.2 +++ vinumlock.c 2001/04/02 00:09:53 @@ -169,7 +169,7 @@ #endif plex->lockwaits++; /* waited one more time */ tsleep(lock, PRIBIO, "vrlock", 0); - lock = plex->lock; /* start again */ + lock = &plex->lock[-1]; /* start again */ foundlocks = 0; pos = NULL; } Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 17:15:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FEB137B71D for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:15:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 75396 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Apr 2001 00:16:13 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:16:13 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: Ron Klinkien , Dan Larsson , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC Message-ID: <20010402021613.A75063@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010330184214.W53982-300000@hq1.tyfon.net> <002f01c0b958$076b3160$0404a8c0@smalweer.nl> <20010401031242.A70366@mail.webmonster.de> <05a301c0ba63$6e9bb240$931576d8@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <05a301c0ba63$6e9bb240$931576d8@inethouston.net>; from dwcjr@inethouston.net on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 10:22:58PM -0600 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG it seems. i installed the patch (my apache is NOT built from ports) and i still got SIGSEGVs. now i set the servername for the mail config section, let's see. i guess it is an apache problem. funny fact: actived (from inn) also dumps core on me with SIGSEGV... strange... the same source and config used for building on 3.2 ran for _years_, you name it. /k David W. Chapman Jr.(dwcjr@inethouston.net)@2001.03.31 22:22:58 +0000: > does that have anything to do with this > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/apache13/files/patch-util.c > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" > To: "Ron Klinkien" > Cc: "Dan Larsson" ; "FreeBSD Stable List" > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 7:12 PM > Subject: Re: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC > > > > why that? if dns works... it should not be a problem. > > that issue puzzles me a bit > > /k > > > > Ron Klinkien(ron@zappa.demon.nl)@2001.03.30 22:28:49 +0000: > > > Make sure your /etc/hosts file is up to date. ie. it > > > lists the ip adress of the host you run apache on. > > > > > > Ron. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dan Larsson" > > > To: "FreeBSD Stable List" > > > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:50 PM > > > Subject: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a clue why I get these segfaults? > > > > > > > > (The apache port installed is /usr/ports/www/apache13 with no > > > > optimizations or extra modules) > > > > > > > > I have attached the debug and dmesg. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > +------ > > > > Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 > > > > Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 > > > > GPG and PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > > "I didn't change a thing and from the moment I didn't change it, > > > it didn't work anymore." -- Anonymous > > KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- > LET Jesus be YOUR anchor! When Satan rocks your boat, THROW Jesus overboard! KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 17:37:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD7D837B71F for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 75998 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Apr 2001 00:38:00 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:38:00 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Mike Smith Cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." , "Jason T. Luttgens" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network performance question Message-ID: <20010402023800.B75063@mail.webmonster.de> References: <009901c0bad3$3e708080$931576d8@inethouston.net> <200104011725.f31HPSC00996@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104011725.f31HPSC00996@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 10:25:28AM -0700 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith(msmith@freebsd.org)@2001.04.01 10:25:28 +0000: > > > FreeBSD kinda disappointed me. It gets ~1000 interface errors on about > > > 514000 packets. I switched the 3COM card out for a NetGear FA311 (sis > > > driver). After receiving ~310000 packets, the network goes down (can't > > > ping/telnet anywhere). At that point I have to ifconfig down and up the > > > interface to get it back. > > You're disappointed in *FreeBSD* because of this? These are *hardware* > failures you're describing here... > mike, driver stuff can be implemented in not just one way or style of code as we all know. the freebsd approach is to have readable code, no awkward hacks (well, errrhm, almost ;) and a structure that meets the specifications of the hardware and, hopefully, is extendible for newer hw versions. the linux approach is to have a flying penguin touching the ground with the tip of his left foot, trying not to crash into the next obstacle - and so is the source. the linux community tends to fix driver problems on certain hardware with evil hacks and, hell, at least it _seems_ to work ;-) for my production systems i prefer the first option, anyway. for the hardware issues in the original mail: - i do not use any 3com equipment anymore since 3com is evil - i like intel 82559 or dec 21141 chipsets, i got some boxes running with smc etherpower ii, too - for a packet capture system analyzing netbios traffic on a switched ethernet via replicating a whole 100mbps switch backplane onto one 1000SX interface i used tigon ii cards (netgear ga620) - the only os that could handle the traffic with bpf/pcap and to the log weeding and storage on one p-iii 500 box was freebsd - one has to know the doodads of kernel configuration. i think, that especially maxusers should be higher by default in the GENERIC kernel, not to talk about options NMBCLUSTERS that should be 8192 minimum - sure, fact is that one needs to configure a kernel for specific tasks like capturing high volume traffic from a network, but that's a typical RTFM issue - anyway the kernel configuration options could be documented much much better btw, i just tried the serverworks based asus board you recommended me at bsdcon2k - runs like a charm ;-) thanks! /k -- > Friends don't let friends use sendmail. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 17:45:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dmz.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E508D37B719 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:45:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: (from http@localhost) by dmz.harmonic.co.il (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f320kc724646 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:46:38 +0200 (IST) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: sendto: No buffer space available Message-ID: <986172398.3ac7cbee50610@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 02:46:38 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've just got ADSL at home (using mpd-netgraph, Archie - it's really cool:) ). After some amount of data passed through the line, I'm getting: sendto: No buffer space available even for ping (!) alchemy:/home/mapc% netstat -m 178/880/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 148 mbufs allocated to data 26 mbufs allocated to packet headers 4 mbufs allocated to fragment reassembly queue headers 143/240/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 700 Kbytes allocated to network (22% of mb_map in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines Thus, I don't see mbuf starvation. What could it be? Perhaps it's some other error which is reported incorrectly? This is 4.3-RC2 kernel. --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: webmail.harmonic.co.il To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 17:57:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from stargate.compuware.com (stargate.compuware.com [166.90.248.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25ADC37B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from driehuis@playbeing.org) Received: from [199.186.16.12] by stargate.compuware.com via smtpd (for hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 2 Apr 2001 00:57:48 UT Received: from bh1.compuware.com (compuware.com [172.22.1.239]) by cwus-dtw-mr02.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535FA74BBD for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from trashcan.nl.compuware.com ([172.16.16.52]) by bh1.compuware.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id HWM0ZG72; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:57:41 -0400 Received: from c1111.nl.compuware.com (c1111.nl.compuware.com [172.16.16.36]) by trashcan.nl.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E01145A4; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:57:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:57:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Bert Driehuis X-Sender: bertd@c1111.nl.compuware.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network performance question In-Reply-To: <20010402023800.B75063@mail.webmonster.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > mike, driver stuff can be implemented in not just one way or style of > code as we all know. the freebsd approach is to have readable code, no > awkward hacks (well, errrhm, almost ;) and a structure that meets the > specifications of the hardware and, hopefully, is extendible for newer > hw versions. the linux approach is to have a flying penguin touching the > ground with the tip of his left foot, trying not to crash into the next > obstacle - and so is the source. the linux community tends to fix driver > problems on certain hardware with evil hacks and, hell, at least it > _seems_ to work ;-) I should probably shut up at some stage, but I couldn't let this one pass :-) Evil hacks are required from time to time. I still remember the rift between the BSDI community and FreeBSD, because BSDI refused to implement bounce buffers for the ISA Adaptec devices because they were Evil. FreeBSD chose to be evil, and won a fair amount of BSDI users over on these grounds. Hardware is inherently buggy -- once it ships, you have no easy recourse like recommending firmware updates; if a soldering iron is all that can help the end user, the end user is screwed if the hardware has a bug. I'm glad you mentioned the i82559 chip as an approved one, because I'm currently dealing with a vendor that happened to miswire them, and broke 100/full autonegociation by doing so. I'm not a big Linux fan, but if it does the job on a machine that FreeBSD throws its hands up on, what am I to recommend? Buy new hardware? I've been through this loop often enough to recommend top notch hardware from vendors that actually can tell a 100pF capacitor from a 100uF one (which is apparently what broke those Intel based boards), but if a workaround exists that doesn't jeopardize the users of Decent Hardware, let a thousand workarounds blossom! If life were easy, we'd all be out of a job. I'd far rather concentrate on getting stuff to work than on bashing the competitor for bashings sake. {Free,Net}BSD have the edge in driver development for having a clear, bus-agnostic driver development model. I never stop being amazed at how cleanly most hardware bugs can be worked around if the basics are taken care of. Cheers, -- Bert -- Bert Driehuis -- driehuis@playbeing.org -- +31-20-3116119 If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 18: 9:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31F1D37B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 77056 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Apr 2001 01:09:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 03:09:44 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available Message-ID: <20010402030944.E75063@mail.webmonster.de> References: <986172398.3ac7cbee50610@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <986172398.3ac7cbee50610@webmail.harmonic.co.il>; from roman@xpert.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 02:46:38AM +0200 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG you might config your kernel with maxusers 64 # at least options NMBCLUSTERS=8192 # or more? i got my webservers configured with maxusers=mb_of_ram/2 and NMBCLUSTERS=16384 so at least the periods between restarts are longer if something goes really wrong /k Roman Shterenzon(roman@xpert.com)@2001.04.02 02:46:38 +0000: > Hi, > I've just got ADSL at home (using mpd-netgraph, Archie - it's really cool:) ). > After some amount of data passed through the line, I'm getting: > sendto: No buffer space available > even for ping (!) > > alchemy:/home/mapc% netstat -m > 178/880/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 148 mbufs allocated to data > 26 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 4 mbufs allocated to fragment reassembly queue headers > 143/240/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 700 Kbytes allocated to network (22% of mb_map in use) > 0 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > Thus, I don't see mbuf starvation. What could it be? Perhaps it's some other > error which is reported incorrectly? This is 4.3-RC2 kernel. > > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant > [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: webmail.harmonic.co.il > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- > Hackers do it with fewer instructions. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 18:31:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F14EC37B71A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:31:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 77654 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Apr 2001 01:31:53 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 03:31:53 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Bert Driehuis Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network performance question Message-ID: <20010402033153.F75063@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010402023800.B75063@mail.webmonster.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from driehuis@playbeing.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 02:57:40AM +0200 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bert Driehuis(driehuis@playbeing.org)@2001.04.02 02:57:40 +0000: > I'm glad you mentioned the i82559 chip as an approved one, because I'm > currently dealing with a vendor that happened to miswire them, and broke > 100/full autonegociation by doing so. > ouch! well, having been network and unix admin for several years now, i try to avoid nbase autonegotation everywhere i can. nway defines a new severity level for the word "evil" hehe ;-) maybe, i sometimes think, nway means it works in one way but not in the other - anyway my interfaces are mostly nailed 100tx/fd > I'm not a big Linux fan, but if it does the job on a machine that > FreeBSD throws its hands up on, what am I to recommend? Buy new > hardware? taking the example with nway - how do you switch off nway in a linux driver module for the 82559? :-) evil grinning donald becker gave us eepro100-diag.c libflash.c libmii.c pci-config.c and last but not least mii-diag.c. you got to compile all that pile of crap with specialized interface to the eepro100 driver and then run mii-diag -F 100baseTx-FD eth0 to nail your interfaces, ifconfig does nothing alike. you can also load the driver with very strange options on the lilo command line but anyway... i run linux on a lot of pathetic hardware freebsd does not like. ftp2.de.freebsd.org is a linux box. it runs. no questions asked ;-) > > I've been through this loop often enough to recommend top notch hardware > from vendors that actually can tell a 100pF capacitor from a 100uF one > (which is apparently what broke those Intel based boards), but if a > workaround exists that doesn't jeopardize the users of Decent Hardware, > let a thousand workarounds blossom! sure, but it makes a difference if a driver implementor just adds a quick hack [tm] which lateron appears to be evil to the rest of the system or if he uses his brain and creates quirk structures for that. and that's a thing i certainly like about freebsd. > > If life were easy, we'd all be out of a job. I'd far rather concentrate > on getting stuff to work than on bashing the competitor for bashings > sake. no, you got me wrong - i am definately not a linux vs freebsd vs restoftheworld guy ;-) i just prefer the better code, or at least the code that looks better and more logical to me. > > {Free,Net}BSD have the edge in driver development for having a clear, > bus-agnostic driver development model. I never stop being amazed at how > cleanly most hardware bugs can be worked around if the basics are taken > care of. *sigh* there should be more developers in the community (be it *bsd, linux or whatever free u-name-it os) that think twice about the legacy code they invent ;-) in fact, that's why i never again will do real driver work since it takes 3 or more other guys to fix up my code afterwards :-/ cheers, /k -- > Hackers do it with all sorts of characters. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 18:44:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D13F37B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:44:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 78260 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Apr 2001 01:44:53 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 03:44:53 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: termcap addition Message-ID: <20010402034453.A78175@mail.webmonster.de> Mail-Followup-To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG someone probably should add cygwin:\ :xn@:op=\E[39;49m:Km=\E[M:tc=linux: to the termcap database, since this is the official term type for cygwin32's terminal emu under windows ;-) /k -- > If you think sex is a pain in the ass, try a different position. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 19: 5:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dojo.tao.ca (tao.ca [198.96.117.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9882C37B71F for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:05:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anarcat@tao.ca) Received: by dojo.tao.ca (Postfix, from local user) id D19334E7E; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:05:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:05:31 -0500 From: anarcat To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't build posfix-current: fails at patching Message-ID: <20010401210531.A5512@dojo> References: <20010401175231.A1759@dojo> <018801c0bb01$e45dfc60$931576d8@inethouston.net> <20010401182520.A2545@dojo> <01cf01c0bb07$4dfa7a40$931576d8@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01cf01c0bb07$4dfa7a40$931576d8@inethouston.net>; from dwcjr@inethouston.net on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 18:56:00 -0500 X-Uptime: 9:04pm up 57 days, 22:50, 3 users, load average: 0.48, 0.50, 0.44 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks. Disabling ipv6 fixed this... Sorry for the list noise.. A. On Sun, 01 Apr 2001, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > currently tls incompatible with ipv6. This is because the patches are > maintained by separate people. >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anarcat" > To: "David W. Chapman Jr." > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 6:25 PM > Subject: Re: Can't build posfix-current: fails at patching >=20 >=20 > Yes. >=20 > As I said, I will attach my Makefile.inc file... ;) I forgot the last > time... >=20 >=20 > A. > On Sun, 01 Apr 2001, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: >=20 > > Did you happen to build with ipv6 and tls? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "anarcat" > > To: "Postfix-current maintainer" > > Cc: > > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 5:52 PM > > Subject: Can't build posfix-current: fails at patching > > > > > > >=20 >=20 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrH3mkACgkQ7uV99pHLOSI0UgCgyhZeXwXolwOi14o2QycUUhF9 OY4AoLgvoSU4WnrVGMBG8EzYETWS5g8A =KzV6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 20:26: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2886737B719 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:26:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f323Ttn85233; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:29:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010401212627.A30546@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:29:55 -0500 (CDT) Organization: @Home Network From: Conrad Sabatier To: j mckitrick Subject: Re: quick kernel compiles Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 01-Apr-2001 j mckitrick wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 01:11:53PM -0500, Conrad Sabatier wrote: >| >| On 31-Mar-2001 Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: >| > In message <20010331233043.A70972@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>, j mckitrick >| > writes: >| >> >| >> cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf >| >> /usr/sbin/config MARS >| >> cd ../../compile/MARS >| >> make depend && make && make install >| >> >| >> but now it is taking WAY longer than it used to. >| >> >| >> should i use this same sequence, only with NO_MODULES? >| >> or is there another way? >| > >| > To skip making any modules do the following instead of a full make && >| > make install. >| > >| > make depend && make kernel && make kernel-install >| >| A much easier way is to set the environment variable MODULES_WITH_WORLD=true >| in /etc/make.conf. > > And then i just use 'make kernel' after that ? Well, if you want to build from /usr/src, you'd use "make KERNCONF=name buildkernel", or you could use the older method of "cd /sys/i386/conf; config KERNELNAME; cd ../../compile/KERNELNAME; make depend && make". It's up to you. -- Conrad Sabatier conrads@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 21:54:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-us4.philips.com (gw-us4.philips.com [63.114.235.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45BF37B71A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:54:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from founder.fang@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us4.philips.com with ESMTP id XAA03466 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:54:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from founder.fang@philips.com) From: founder.fang@philips.com Received: from smtprelay-asp1.philips.com(130.147.65.5) by gw-us4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma003462; Sun, 1 Apr 01 23:54:47 -0500 Received: from APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (aplms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.147.79.213]) by smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id MAA10816 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:54:44 +0800 (HKT) Received: by APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via APAC id 0056920010388263; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:54:46 +0800 To: Subject: how can i increase my swap partion Message-ID: <0056920010388263000002L232*@MHS> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:54:46 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 04/02/01 12:56:46" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i installed 4.2 release on my computer,when i install,i give it a small= swap partion, now i found the partion is not big enough,how can i increase it without= reinstall all the system? = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 21:57:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EF037B719 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f324v6R31457; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:57:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:57:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Cc: Subject: Re: how can i increase my swap partion In-Reply-To: <0056920010388263000002L232*@MHS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To add 512MB more SWAP to your system.. cd /usr dd if=/dev/zero of=/usr/swap0 bs=32m count=16 chmod 640 swap0 chgrp operator swap0 pico /etc/vntab /dev/vn0c /usr/swap0 swap then vnconfig -ae add: if [ "X${vnconfig_enable}" = X"YES" ]; then echo -n ' vnconfig'; vnconfig -ae fi to /etc/rc.local + Chris Byrnes, chris@JEAH.net + JEAH Communications + 1-866-AWW-JEAH (Toll-Free) On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 founder.fang@philips.com wrote: > i installed 4.2 release on my computer,when i install,i give it a small swap partion, > now i found the partion is not big enough,how can i increase it without reinstall > all the system? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 22: 6:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CD737B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:06:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3256iU01704 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:06:44 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Has anyone got a Stallion EasyIO4 (pci) card running in 4 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:09:41 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just looking in the LINT file, and see some things there that may apply? I have a Stallion EasyIO-4 card. 4 serial (RJ-45) ports on a card, and wonder if anyone has got this working, and if so could you share your kernel setup please? Thanks Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 22:17:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5865137B719 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f325HpU01750 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:17:51 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: No matter. Found it. RE: Has anyone got a Stallion EasyIO4 (pci) card running in 4 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:20:48 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG found it. as usual - didn't read the fine print > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Robert > Sent: Monday, 2 April 2001 3:10 PM > To: FreeBSD > Subject: Has anyone got a Stallion EasyIO4 (pci) card running in 4 > > > > > Just looking in the LINT file, and see some things there that may apply? > I have a Stallion EasyIO-4 card. 4 serial (RJ-45) ports on a card, and > wonder if anyone has got this working, and if so could you share > your kernel > setup please? > > Thanks > Robert > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 22:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zoon.lafn.org (zoon.lafn.org [206.117.18.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B694137B71A; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (cs-wla2-p43.lafn.org [192.168.16.43] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f325U2L44996; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bc979@mail.lafn.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200104011725.f31HPSC00996@mass.dis.org> References: <200104011725.f31HPSC00996@mass.dis.org> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:29:38 -0700 To: Mike Smith From: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: Network performance question Cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." , "Jason T. Luttgens" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:25 -0700 4/1/01, Mike Smith wrote: > > > FreeBSD kinda disappointed me. It gets ~1000 interface errors on about >> > 514000 packets. I switched the 3COM card out for a NetGear FA311 (sis >> > driver). After receiving ~310000 packets, the network goes down (can't >> > ping/telnet anywhere). At that point I have to ifconfig down and up the >> > interface to get it back. > >You're disappointed in *FreeBSD* because of this? These are *hardware* >failures you're describing here... I am not convinced yet. I have a number of FreeBSD 3.5-Stable machines using the Netgear FA310TX boards that run with heavy loads. Most of them currently have over 6 months since the last boot and I never see the above problems. I don't run tcpdump for long periods because I don't have the disk space to hold it. But it never seems to drop packets. I don't know the differences between the 310 and 311 boards. The 310 uses the pn driver in 3.5 and the dc driver on 4.2. I just am updating my test system to 4.2 and have not been able to do any long term tests yet. -- -- Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 22:37: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamus.xpert.com (jamus.xpert.com [199.203.132.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A5B37B71C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: from roman (helo=localhost) by jamus.xpert.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14jx5b-0007X1-00; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 07:41:19 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:41:19 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <20010402030944.E75063@mail.webmonster.de> Message-ID: Organization: Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've MAXUSERS at 96, which makes NSFBUFS 2048... NMBCLUSTERS are nowhere near end- as I learn it from netstat -m On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > you might config your kernel with > maxusers 64 # at least > options NMBCLUSTERS=8192 # or more? > > i got my webservers configured with maxusers=mb_of_ram/2 and > NMBCLUSTERS=16384 so at least the periods between restarts are > longer if something goes really wrong > > /k > > Roman Shterenzon(roman@xpert.com)@2001.04.02 02:46:38 +0000: > > Hi, > > I've just got ADSL at home (using mpd-netgraph, Archie - it's really cool:) ). > > After some amount of data passed through the line, I'm getting: > > sendto: No buffer space available > > even for ping (!) > > > > alchemy:/home/mapc% netstat -m > > 178/880/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > > 148 mbufs allocated to data > > 26 mbufs allocated to packet headers > > 4 mbufs allocated to fragment reassembly queue headers > > 143/240/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > > 700 Kbytes allocated to network (22% of mb_map in use) > > 0 requests for memory denied > > 0 requests for memory delayed > > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > > > Thus, I don't see mbuf starvation. What could it be? Perhaps it's some other > > error which is reported incorrectly? This is 4.3-RC2 kernel. > > > > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant > > [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > This mail sent through IMP: webmail.harmonic.co.il > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > > Hackers do it with fewer instructions. > KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de > > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 23: 3:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF1E37B71E for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin@kevster.com) Received: from kevster.com (sdn-ar-002casfraP081.dialsprint.net [168.191.205.169]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id XAA03079 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3AC8EA33.139F927C@kevster.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:08:03 -0700 From: Kevin Lister X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.2-stable installs, but does not boot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi gang, I've been considering starting a small ISP. I planned to use FreeBSD for the servers, since I can't afford Sun Enterprise servers. :o) I would like to play around with the OS a bit, but I can't get it to boot. It appears to install fine, but after exiting the config tool at the end of the install, it reboots and then fails with: loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf /kernel text=0x26e45f - elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed Unable to load kernel: Aborted! Anyone else seeing this problem. Please let me know how you fixed it, if so. I suppose I am possibly misconfiguring something during the install process, but the install does appear to occur, the system just doesn't boot. Why do ISP's use FreeBSD over, say, RedHat Linux? Is FreeBSD widely used in the ISP space? thanks, kev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 1 23:40:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D0837B71A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:40:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f326dSh17925; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:39:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:39:28 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Christopher Schulte Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld fails: gnu/usr.bin/groff/devascii Message-ID: <20010402093928.A17079@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Schulte , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <5.1.0.12.0.20010401052532.02da9868@pop.schulte.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.12.0.20010401052532.02da9868@pop.schulte.org>; from christopher@schulte.org on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 05:50:38AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 05:50:38AM -0500, Christopher Schulte wrote: > What confuses me is I don't see any recent changes made to the CVS > Repository which would cause this to fail.... any ideas? > > Fresh install of 4.2-RELEASE from CD > cvsup @ ~10pm 2001-03-31 > buildworld ran w/o error > installworld failed > > `expr` is in my path as shown via `which` and I was able to successfully > installworld by listing full path to expr (/bin/expr) in > gnu/usr.bin/groff/Makefile.tty. > > Here's the simple diff > > futon# diff Makefile.tty Makefile.tty.new > 15c15 > < @(charwidth=`expr $(RES) / $(CPI)` ; \ > --- > > @(charwidth=`/bin/expr $(RES) / $(CPI)` ; \ > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/groff/devascii > Making R > expr: not found > *** Error code 127 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/devascii. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > Something is broken on your side. What is shown above should have been done as part of `buildworld', not as part of `installworld'. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 0:20: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zoon.lafn.org (zoon.lafn.org [206.117.18.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0AA37B71E; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (cs-wla2-p43.lafn.org [192.168.16.43] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f327Jtf52083; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bc979@mail.lafn.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200104011725.f31HPSC00996@mass.dis.org> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:16:48 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: Network performance question Cc: Mike Smith , "David W. Chapman Jr." , "Jason T. Luttgens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 22:29 -0700 4/1/01, Doug Hardie wrote: >At 10:25 -0700 4/1/01, Mike Smith wrote: >> > > FreeBSD kinda disappointed me. It gets ~1000 interface errors on about >>> > 514000 packets. I switched the 3COM card out for a NetGear FA311 (sis >>> > driver). After receiving ~310000 packets, the network goes down (can't >>> > ping/telnet anywhere). At that point I have to ifconfig down and up the >>> > interface to get it back. >> >>You're disappointed in *FreeBSD* because of this? These are *hardware* >>failures you're describing here... > >I am not convinced yet. I have a number of FreeBSD 3.5-Stable >machines using the Netgear FA310TX boards that run with heavy loads. >Most of them currently have over 6 months since the last boot and I >never see the above problems. I don't run tcpdump for long periods >because I don't have the disk space to hold it. But it never seems >to drop packets. I don't know the differences between the 310 and >311 boards. The 310 uses the pn driver in 3.5 and the dc driver on >4.2. I just am updating my test system to 4.2 and have not been >able to do any long term tests yet. >-- >-- Doug I just got a chance to run a test with 10baseT connections. On the FA310TX card it hung after it got the first input error with 47K packets received. Something has obviously been changed from 3.5-Stable. I have done complete installs across the network on those cards using 3.5. Sure won't be able to use 4.2 in a production mode at this time. Some of my servers handle that volume every few minutes. What information can I provide to help get this fixed? -- -- Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 0:29:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0907437B719 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:29:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f327TmU02182 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:29:48 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: what is 'mkdevnods' referenced by the stalion setup? Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:32:44 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The README.stl file references a thing called 'mkdevnods' to set up device nodes for the EasyIO-4 board. What is this and where can I find it on 4??? or is it no longer needed? Thanks for any help here, regards Robert [a fan of 4] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 1:31:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375D137B71D; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:31:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f328QIW02896; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:26:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:26:18 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jordan K Hubbard , bmah@freebsd.org Cc: Nik Clayton , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT Message-ID: <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 12:20:22PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 12:20:22PM -0700, Jordan K Hubbard wrote: > Man, people are still reading those instructions? :-) >=20 > I agree that they're wrong but I'm about to go off the air for 4 days > in about 10 minutes here so I can't fix them myself. If anyone would > care to do the honors, I'd appreciate it. Patch attached. Bruce, this is your area, do you want to do this, or shall I? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="INSTALL.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: INSTALL.TXT =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/texts/i386/INSTALL.TXT,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -r1.15 INSTALL.TXT --- INSTALL.TXT 2001/03/16 22:55:55 1.15 +++ INSTALL.TXT 2001/04/02 08:25:14 @@ -140,9 +140,14 @@ drive in some FreeBSD machine, it's quite easy: You simply add the following line to the password file (using the vipw command): =20 - ftp:*:99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin + ftp::99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin =20 - And anyone else on your network will now be able to choose a Media + Warning: This may allow anyone on the local network (or Internet) to + FTP to this machine, which may not be desirable. If so, use passwd(1) + to assign a password to the "ftp" user. + + On the machine on which you are running the install, go to the "Options" + menu and set "Release Name" to "any". You may then choose a Media type of FTP and type in: ``ftp://'' after picking "URL" in the ftp sites menu. =20 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- --p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrIN6kACgkQk6gHZCw343Vv+gCfcI3/t4MU5K5Jj/pg6PPdnDsI ucMAn22wk4J7svxNMHyHL/8ck2lDO+5f =rqQ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --p4qYPpj5QlsIQJ0K-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 1:43:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8AC37B719 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:43:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14jzvi-000HXU-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:43:18 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f328hH992024 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:43:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:43:16 +0100 From: Rasputin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC Message-ID: <20010402094316.A91958@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <20010330184214.W53982-300000@hq1.tyfon.net> <002f01c0b958$076b3160$0404a8c0@smalweer.nl> <20010401031242.A70366@mail.webmonster.de> <05a301c0ba63$6e9bb240$931576d8@inethouston.net> <20010402021613.A75063@mail.webmonster.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010402021613.A75063@mail.webmonster.de>; from karsten@rohrbach.de on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 02:16:13AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Karsten W. Rohrbach [010402 01:17]: > it seems. i installed the patch (my apache is NOT built from ports) and > i still got SIGSEGVs. now i set the servername for the mail config > section, let's see. i guess it is an apache problem. > funny fact: actived (from inn) also dumps core on me with SIGSEGV... > strange... the same source and config used for building on 3.2 ran for > _years_, you name it. The patch has been merged into the port now, so perhaps cvsupping and rebuilding the port will fix it. If not, let the maintainer know. -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 1:59:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D7837B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:59:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47B7C6ACB7; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:29:09 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:29:09 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Andrew Gordon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3-RC processes stuck sleeping on "inode" (?vinum) problem update Message-ID: <20010402182909.A75576@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010402094208.D73090@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010402094208.D73090@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 09:42:08AM +0930 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 2 April 2001 at 9:42:08 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 2 April 2001 at 0:36:31 +0100, Andrew Gordon wrote: >> >> Further to my previous report: >> >> - This is definitely a problem in 4.3RC: I rolled back to 31st Jan >> sources (world & kernel), and the system has now been up for 36 hours >> (as opposed to at most 6 hours running 4.3RC). >> >> - New evidence makes me lean towards thinking that Vinum is responsible >> (though this is by no means conclusive): >> >> 1. I had previously only had my nfsd processes getting stuck >> (plus the 'reboot' process itself if I tried to reboot), >> however, while doing a 'cvs checkout' onto the vinum filesystem >> to build my jan31 world, the cvs process got stuck in "inode" too. >> >> 2. That same cvs checkout completed OK on a non-vinum filesystem. >> >> 3. I have just noticed in my console logs, that in the "ps" >> output showing the nfsd processes stuck in "inode", >> the "(syncer)" process is stuck in "vrlock" which is a >> vinum wait channel. > > Hmm. This is pretty conclusive. It's a deadlock. > > Tor Egge reported a possible cause of this kind of deadlock. I've > been testing a fix, but I'm not sure it doesn't have side effects. > Try this (in /usr/src/sys/dev/vinum), then rebuild the kernel module > (in /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum), stop and restart vinum, and see if it > helps: > > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumlock.c,v > retrieving revision 1.18.2.2 > diff -w -u -r1.18.2.2 vinumlock.c > --- vinumlock.c 2001/03/13 02:59:43 1.18.2.2 > +++ vinumlock.c 2001/04/02 00:09:53 > @@ -169,7 +169,7 @@ > #endif > plex->lockwaits++; /* waited one more time */ > tsleep(lock, PRIBIO, "vrlock", 0); > - lock = plex->lock; /* start again */ > + lock = &plex->lock[-1]; /* start again */ > foundlocks = 0; > pos = NULL; > } OK. I've tried this change, and indeed I still ended up with problems. It seems that from time to time a wakeup gets lost, causing things to hang. I've now made a workaround, and things seem to be working stably. Try this fix instead (or apply the other line if you've already made a change). I'm relatively confident that this will fix the problem. In view of the code freeze, please let me know as soon as possible whether this fixes your problem. RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumlock.c,v retrieving revision 1.18.2.2 diff -w -u -r1.18.2.2 vinumlock.c --- vinumlock.c 2001/03/13 02:59:43 1.18.2.2 +++ vinumlock.c 2001/04/02 08:56:26 @@ -168,8 +168,8 @@ } #endif plex->lockwaits++; /* waited one more time */ - tsleep(lock, PRIBIO, "vrlock", 0); - lock = plex->lock; /* start again */ + tsleep(lock, PRIBIO, "vrlock", hz); + lock = &plex->lock [-1]; /* start again */ foundlocks = 0; pos = NULL; } Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 2:15:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D53F37B71E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:15:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f329En418078; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:14:49 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Greg Lehey Cc: Andrew Gordon , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-RC processes stuck sleeping on "inode" (?vinum) problem update Message-ID: <20010402021449.M813@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20010402094208.D73090@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010402182909.A75576@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010402182909.A75576@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 06:29:09PM +0930 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Greg Lehey [010402 01:59] wrote: > On Monday, 2 April 2001 at 9:42:08 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Monday, 2 April 2001 at 0:36:31 +0100, Andrew Gordon wrote: > >> > >> Further to my previous report: > >> > >> - This is definitely a problem in 4.3RC: I rolled back to 31st Jan > >> sources (world & kernel), and the system has now been up for 36 hours > >> (as opposed to at most 6 hours running 4.3RC). > >> > >> - New evidence makes me lean towards thinking that Vinum is responsible > >> (though this is by no means conclusive): > >> > >> 1. I had previously only had my nfsd processes getting stuck > >> (plus the 'reboot' process itself if I tried to reboot), > >> however, while doing a 'cvs checkout' onto the vinum filesystem > >> to build my jan31 world, the cvs process got stuck in "inode" too. > >> > >> 2. That same cvs checkout completed OK on a non-vinum filesystem. > >> > >> 3. I have just noticed in my console logs, that in the "ps" > >> output showing the nfsd processes stuck in "inode", > >> the "(syncer)" process is stuck in "vrlock" which is a > >> vinum wait channel. > > > > Hmm. This is pretty conclusive. It's a deadlock. > > > > Tor Egge reported a possible cause of this kind of deadlock. I've > > been testing a fix, but I'm not sure it doesn't have side effects. > > Try this (in /usr/src/sys/dev/vinum), then rebuild the kernel module > > (in /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum), stop and restart vinum, and see if it > > helps: > > > > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumlock.c,v > > retrieving revision 1.18.2.2 > > diff -w -u -r1.18.2.2 vinumlock.c > > --- vinumlock.c 2001/03/13 02:59:43 1.18.2.2 > > +++ vinumlock.c 2001/04/02 00:09:53 > > @@ -169,7 +169,7 @@ > > #endif > > plex->lockwaits++; /* waited one more time */ > > tsleep(lock, PRIBIO, "vrlock", 0); > > - lock = plex->lock; /* start again */ > > + lock = &plex->lock[-1]; /* start again */ > > foundlocks = 0; > > pos = NULL; > > } > > OK. I've tried this change, and indeed I still ended up with > problems. It seems that from time to time a wakeup gets lost, causing > things to hang. I've now made a workaround, and things seem to be > working stably. Try this fix instead (or apply the other line if > you've already made a change). I'm relatively confident that this > will fix the problem. In view of the code freeze, please let me know > as soon as possible whether this fixes your problem. > > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/vinum/vinumlock.c,v > retrieving revision 1.18.2.2 > diff -w -u -r1.18.2.2 vinumlock.c > --- vinumlock.c 2001/03/13 02:59:43 1.18.2.2 > +++ vinumlock.c 2001/04/02 08:56:26 > @@ -168,8 +168,8 @@ > } > #endif > plex->lockwaits++; /* waited one more time */ > - tsleep(lock, PRIBIO, "vrlock", 0); > - lock = plex->lock; /* start again */ > + tsleep(lock, PRIBIO, "vrlock", hz); > + lock = &plex->lock [-1]; /* start again */ > foundlocks = 0; > pos = NULL; > } Err, if you're going to commit this, it needs a detailed XXX comment, perhaps pointing to this thread until it's fixed. As far as a fix, a couple of suggestions: 1) I think unlockrange might require an splbio to protect the lock-> data as well as the plex-> data. 2) I think you may want to be using wakeup, not wakeup_one(), although doing that may really be obscuring the problem rather than solving it. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Represent yourself, show up at BABUG http://www.babug.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 2:23: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3C537B722 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:23:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f329Mvr18328; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:22:57 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Greg Lehey Cc: Andrew Gordon , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-RC processes stuck sleeping on "inode" (?vinum) problem update Message-ID: <20010402022257.N813@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20010402094208.D73090@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010402182909.A75576@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010402021449.M813@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010402021449.M813@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 02:14:49AM -0700 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Alfred Perlstein [010402 02:15] wrote: > > As far as a fix, a couple of suggestions: > > 1) I think unlockrange might require an splbio to protect the > lock-> data as well as the plex-> data. One thing you might want to do is sprinkle the code with some splasserts() to make sure they're being called correctly. Since lockrange uses splbio, but unlockrange doesn't seem to, it would seem to be an error if unlockrange() is called without splbio. > 2) I think you may want to be using wakeup, not wakeup_one(), > although doing that may really be obscuring the problem rather > than solving it. Along with this, what may be useful for debugging is checking the return value from tsleep with a timeout when the timeout expires, then dump some info about the current lock state, perhaps take a snapshot right before sleeping and then display the difference when you timeout and wake up. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 2:42:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BE637B720 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:42:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05625 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 03:42:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010402033656.044d5b70@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 03:42:08 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Subject: PPPoE causes kernel panic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just tried to set up a PPPoE client on 4.3-RC2, but the machine regularaly page faulted in the kernel just as it tried to get online (that is, right after ppp said "Using interface: tun0.") The panic display said that the "current process" was ppp (not surprisingly) and that the CPU had gotten a page fault "while in kernel mode." The Netgraph, Netgraph sockets, Netgraph PPPoE, and Netgraph Ethernet modules were all compiled statically into the kernel and so didn't have to be loaded. If the person who maintains this portion of the code has trouble duplicating the problem, let me know and I'll provide more detail -- including configuration files. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 2:45:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E57237B724 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:45:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f329jTU02609 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:45:29 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Need help please. 4.3-RC and EasIO-4 board. Can't 'mkdevnods' Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:48:23 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have the Stallion EasyIO-4 board installed into the kernel, but the rest of the instructions for it - can't be followed. The instructions are here. $ ls -l README.stl -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 24124 Aug 3 2000 README.stl $ pwd /usr/src/sys/i386/isa $ extract from dmesg. ------------------------ stl0 at port 0x2a0 irq 10 on isa0 stl0: EasyIO (driver version 1.0.0) unit=0 nrpanels=1 nrports=4 stl0: driver is using old-style compatability shims The instructions say to do the mkdevnods thing, but it simply doesn't work. Is there a "patched" version of mkdevnods for this version of FreeBSD? The instructions say the following: ======================================== 3. USING THE DRIVER Once the driver is installed you will need to setup some device nodes to access the serial ports. Use the supplied "mkdevnods" script to automatically create all required device entries for your boards. To make device nodes for more than 1 board then just supply the number of boards you are using as a command line parameter to mkdevnods and it will create nodes for that number of boards. By default it will create device nodes for 1 board only. Note that if the driver is not installed at character major number 72 then you will need to edit the mkdevnods script and modify the STL_SERIALMAJOR variable to the major number you are using. Device nodes created for the normal serial port devices are named /dev/ttyEX where X is the port number. (The second boards ports will start from ttyE64, the third boards from ttyE128, etc). It will also create a set of modem call out devices named cueX where again X is the port number. For the most part the Stallion driver tries to emulate the standard PC system com ports and the standard sio serial driver. The idea is that you should be able to use Stallion board ports and com ports inter-changeably without modifying anything but the device name. Anything that doesn't work like that should be considered a bug in this driver! Since this driver tries to emulate the standard serial ports as much as possible then most system utilities should work as they do for the standard com ports. Most importantly "stty" works as expected and "comcontrol" can be used just like for the serial ports. This driver should work with anything that works on standard com serial ports. Having said that, I have used it on at least the following types of "things" under FreeBSD: a) standard dumb terminals (using getty) b) modems (using cu, etc) c) ppp (through pppd, kernel ppp) ======================================================== Thanks for any help, Regards Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 4:21:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC1337B71A for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 04:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f32BLWU02931 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:21:33 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Development info needed - Stallion Multiport Serial support in 4.3-RC. Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:24:25 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, is this the right forum by the way.? If not, please point me to the right one. How much similarity is there between BSDI and FreeBSD-4.3. Will the drivers developed for BSDI in 98 work for FreeBSD? then a patch to MAKEDEV is also needed. Robert .............................................. Stallion Multiport Serial Driver Readme --------------------------------------- Version: 5.4.0 Date: 12JAN98 1. INTRODUCTION This is a BSDI driver for most of the Stallion Technologies range of multiport serial boards. There are really two drivers in this package. One is for the Stallion smart boards, the other for the true Stallion intelligent multiport boards. If you have any trouble getting Stallion boards to work in BSDI systems, please contact Stallion Technologies support department via email or phone. Contact information for Stallion Technologies offices is included in the file "Offices" contained in this distribution. All host driver source is included in this package, and is copyrighted under a BSD style copyright. The board "firmware" code in this package is copyright Stallion Technologies (the files cdk.sys and 2681.sys). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 4:25:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629FC37B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 04:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f32BPWo21101; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 04:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 04:25:32 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Robert Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Development info needed - Stallion Multiport Serial support in 4.3-RC. Message-ID: <20010402042532.Q813@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from robert@chalmers.com.au on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 09:24:25PM +1000 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Robert [010402 04:22] wrote: > > Ok, > is this the right forum by the way.? If not, please point me to the right > one. > > How much similarity is there between BSDI and FreeBSD-4.3. At the same time, probably some, but not much. :) > Will the drivers developed for BSDI in 98 work for FreeBSD? No, they'll need to be ported. > > then a patch to MAKEDEV is also needed. That too, I would try hacking the mkdevnods script in the BSD/os tarball and see if you can get it working. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 4:29: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns5.sony.co.jp (ns5.Sony.CO.JP [202.238.80.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA5137B71A for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 04:29:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistral@imasy.or.jp) Received: from mail2.sony.co.jp (gatekeeper8.Sony.CO.JP [202.238.80.22]) by ns5.sony.co.jp (R8) with ESMTP id f32BSv356145; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:28:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail2.sony.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.sony.co.jp (R8) with ESMTP id f32BSvY26769; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:28:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from mistral.imasy.or.jp ([43.1.172.41]) by mail2.sony.co.jp (R8) with ESMTP id f32BSvv26765; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:28:57 +0900 (JST) Received: (from yohta@localhost) by mistral.imasy.or.jp (8.11.3/3.7Wpl2-010215) id f32BSso02417; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:28:54 +0900 (JST) From: mistral@imasy.or.jp (Yoshihiko SARUMARU) To: jkh@osd.bsdi.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: desktop selection on sysinstall and available packages inCD-ROM In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:24:45 -0800". <20010330092445D.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.22PL5] 2001-02/07(Wed) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:28:52 +0900 Message-ID: <010402202852.M0300970@mistral.imasy.or.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > We usually go to some trouble to make sure that all the packages > referenced by sysinstall are there on the disc #1 image. Can you > verify that these items are still missing in the 4.3-rc2 ISO? If you > can tell us precisely what's missing, we can make sure that this > doesn't happen for the next one or, certainly, for 4.3-RELEASE. OK. I tested again with 4.3rc2-install.iso. The result is the same as rc1. - WindowMaker doesn't exist (all depended files seems exist). - fvwm installed successfully, but it is fvwm-1.24r. - KDE installation failed. kdesupport-2.1 require qt-2.2.4_1, but CD-ROM has only qt-2.3.0. - GNOME + Sawfish has no problem. - GNOME + Enlightenment has no problem. - afterstep seems no problem. (I'm using afterstep-i18n). WindowMaker issue is maybe only packing problem, and KDE issue is maybe temporal incompatibility of package (latest build of kdesupport on bento already depends on qt-2.3.0). But fvwm issue seems more serious. First problem is that both fvwm-1 and fvwm-2 are named fvwm.tgz in packages/Latest/. I don't know which will be win in this race. Second problem is fvwm2 executable is named fvwm2 (not fvwm). Third problem is fvwm2 package doesn't install any rc file, and has no way to spawn xterm or any other X clients. If this menu means to install fvwm 1, then fvwm Desktop is perfect. It starts with xterm and full functional left button menu. Only identifier in source code of sysinstall is the problem. Thanks again, -- Yoshihiko SARUMARU mail: mistral@imasy.or.jp web: http://www.imasy.or.jp/~mistral/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 5:18:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [217.27.162.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265B937B719 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 05:18:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B369C1C7DB for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:18:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1E01C7B6 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:18:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:18:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Dan Larsson To: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: mod_perl-1.25 syntax error on FreeBSD-4.3 RC Message-ID: <20010402141450.P10131-100000@hq1.tyfon.net> Organization: Tyfon Svenska AB X-NCC-NIC: DL1999-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: se.tyfon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by hq1.tyfon.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cannot get mod_perl to work, this is what I get when I try to start apache after installing mod_perl (from the ports tree): #/usr/local/sbin/apachectl start Syntax error on line 245 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: \ Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libperl.so into server: /usr/local/libexec/apache/libperl.so: Undefined symbol \ "pthread_getspecific" Line 245: LoadModule perl_module libexec/apache/libperl.so Any ideas? Regards +------ Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 GPG and PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 5:20:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.smartspace.co.za (rapier.smartspace.co.za [66.8.25.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CFEC37B720 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 05:20:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@rapier.smartspace.co.za) Received: (qmail 60811 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Apr 2001 12:19:18 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:19:18 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jordan K Hubbard , bmah@freebsd.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT Message-ID: <20010402141918.B56046@rapier.smartspace.co.za> References: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 09:26:18AM +0100 Organization: Building Intelligence X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon 2001-04-02 (09:26), Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 12:20:22PM -0700, Jordan K Hubbard wrote: > > Man, people are still reading those instructions? :-) > > > > I agree that they're wrong but I'm about to go off the air for 4 days > > in about 10 minutes here so I can't fix them myself. If anyone would > > care to do the honors, I'd appreciate it. > > Patch attached. Bruce, this is your area, do you want to do this, or > shall I? > > N > -- > FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ > FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ > > --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- > Index: INSTALL.TXT > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/texts/i386/INSTALL.TXT,v > retrieving revision 1.15 > diff -u -r1.15 INSTALL.TXT > --- INSTALL.TXT 2001/03/16 22:55:55 1.15 > +++ INSTALL.TXT 2001/04/02 08:25:14 > @@ -140,9 +140,14 @@ > drive in some FreeBSD machine, it's quite easy: You simply add the > following line to the password file (using the vipw command): > > - ftp:*:99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin > + ftp::99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin > > - And anyone else on your network will now be able to choose a Media > + Warning: This may allow anyone on the local network (or Internet) to > + FTP to this machine, which may not be desirable. If so, use passwd(1) > + to assign a password to the "ftp" user. > + > + On the machine on which you are running the install, go to the "Options" > + menu and set "Release Name" to "any". You may then choose a Media > type of FTP and type in: ``ftp://'' after > picking "URL" in the ftp sites menu. I don't believe this is correct; I have functioning anonymous FTP with: ftp:*:14:5::0:0:Anonymous FTP Admin:/var/ftp:/nonexistent Anything involving no password must be wrong, surely? Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@smartspace.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 6:10:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.corp.flipdog.com (c1082929-a.saltlk1.ut.home.com [65.11.115.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8357737B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlp@flipdog.com) Received: from aurora (jlp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.corp.flipdog.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f32DA3K18000; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:10:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from jlp@aurora.corp.flipdog.com) Message-Id: <200104021310.f32DA3K18000@aurora.corp.flipdog.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/19/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Robert" From: "Jan L. Peterson" Cc: "FreeBSD" Subject: Re: Need help please. 4.3-RC and EasIO-4 board. Can't 'mkdevnods' X-face: p=61=y<.Il$z+k*y~"j>%c[8R~8{j3WTnaSd-'RyC>t.Ub>AAm\zYA#5JF +W=G?EI+|EI);]=fs_MOfKN0n9`OlmB[1^0;L^64K5][nOb&gv/n}p@mm06|J|WNa asp7mMEw0w)e_6T~7v-\]yHKvI^1}[2k)] References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:48:23 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 07:10:03 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert, Please take a look at kern/22967 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22967 a PR I submitted back in November about getting the EasyIO PCI board working. There is a newer version of the driver than is in the current kernel available at ftp.stallion.com, but it is only for 3.x... I've got it working on 4.x, which was the subject of the PR, but no one has looked at that PR yet to see about integrating it in the kernel (or even if my mods are acceptable... although they work for me). The upshot is that you can get the mkdevnods script from ftp.stallion.com. Hope this helps. -jan- -- Jan L. Peterson FlipDog.com tel. +1 801 418 7815 Sr. Systems Admin 3210 N Canyon Rd, Ste 300 fax +1 801 818 0879 jlp@flipdog.com Provo, UT 84604 http://www.flipdog.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 6:35:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C69C37B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:35:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id fitaaaaa for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:35:40 +1000 Message-ID: <3AC880F6.DB4ADCB3@quake.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:39:02 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Victor R. Cardona" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE References: <86430000.986138943@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> <20010401173846.A19749@marx.marvic.chum> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Victor R. Cardona" wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 11:29:03AM -0400, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: > > As much as I prefer FreeBSD over Linux, I think you have more proof of > > moron "installers" there; we have both FreeBSD and SuSE Linux (and I > > personally support the latter, including 7.1), and neither has any such > > problems in my experience. Both support mostly the same hardware. > > > > (SuSE and Debian go a long way toward making Linux tolerable, if not the > > quality OS that FreeBSD is.) > > I have to second that. I use SuSE on my workstations, and FreeBSD on > servers, and am happy with both. I have to totaly dissagree... Linux is crap! Not only is its development totaly disorganised, let alone the fact there is billions of dists, its really only a toy... There is no way they can make linux even close to tolerable! FreeBSD everywhere! Even slashdot is moving to FreeBSD cos they had enough of linux! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 6:45:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.frontier.net (frontier.net [199.45.141.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23BF37B71E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cewatts@frontier.net) Received: from animas.frontier.net (animas.frontier.net [199.45.141.1]) by mail.frontier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F993EE880; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:45:11 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:45:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Charlie Watts To: Kal Torak Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <3AC880F6.DB4ADCB3@quake.com.au> Message-ID: X-No-Archive: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > I have to totaly dissagree... Linux is crap! Not only is its development > totaly disorganised, let alone the fact there is billions of dists, its > really only a toy... There is no way they can make linux even close to > tolerable! > > FreeBSD everywhere! Even slashdot is moving to FreeBSD cos they had enough > of linux! Would it be possible for everyone to -not- respond to this on -stable? Pretty please? -- "I just swallowed a fishing lure", said Tom with baited breath. Charlie Watts cewatts@frontier.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 6:53: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3236037B71B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:53:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id kitaaaaa for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:53:09 +1000 Message-ID: <3AC8850F.9A8C0D64@quake.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:56:31 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charlie Watts Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charlie Watts wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > > > I have to totaly dissagree... Linux is crap! Not only is its development > > totaly disorganised, let alone the fact there is billions of dists, its > > really only a toy... There is no way they can make linux even close to > > tolerable! > > > > FreeBSD everywhere! Even slashdot is moving to FreeBSD cos they had enough > > of linux! > > Would it be possible for everyone to -not- respond to this on -stable? > > Pretty please? Owww sorry :P But that april fools on slashdot about moving to FreeBSD actualy had a fair bit of truth in it... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 7:28:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2CF37B793 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:28:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca4b-235.ix.netcom.com [209.110.245.235]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09299; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3D205113E81; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:28:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: kaltorak@quake.com.au Cc: vcardona@home.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <3AC880F6.DB4ADCB3@quake.com.au> (message from Kal Torak on Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:39:02 +1000) Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE References: <86430000.986138943@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> <20010401173846.A19749@marx.marvic.chum> <3AC880F6.DB4ADCB3@quake.com.au> Message-Id: <20010402142817.3D205113E81@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Uh - april fools. Slashdot is owned by VA Linux or another Linux related company. - Mike H. Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:39:02 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Accept-Language: en Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk "Victor R. Cardona" wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 11:29:03AM -0400, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: > > As much as I prefer FreeBSD over Linux, I think you have more proof of > > moron "installers" there; we have both FreeBSD and SuSE Linux (and I > > personally support the latter, including 7.1), and neither has any such > > problems in my experience. Both support mostly the same hardware. > > > > (SuSE and Debian go a long way toward making Linux tolerable, if not the > > quality OS that FreeBSD is.) > > I have to second that. I use SuSE on my workstations, and FreeBSD on > servers, and am happy with both. I have to totaly dissagree... Linux is crap! Not only is its development totaly disorganised, let alone the fact there is billions of dists, its really only a toy... There is no way they can make linux even close to tolerable! FreeBSD everywhere! Even slashdot is moving to FreeBSD cos they had enough of linux! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 7:31:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233D237B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:31:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 6008713615; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:31:33 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Mike Harding Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <20010402103133.A13115@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Mike Harding , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <86430000.986138943@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> <20010401173846.A19749@marx.marvic.chum> <3AC880F6.DB4ADCB3@quake.com.au> <20010402142817.3D205113E81@netcom1.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010402142817.3D205113E81@netcom1.netcom.com>; from mvh@ix.netcom.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 07:28:17AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 07:28:17AM -0700, Mike Harding wrote: >=20 > Uh - april fools. Slashdot is owned by VA Linux or another Linux > related company. >=20 Sure, but don't they still use a FreeBSD firewall for the Slashdot machines? :) --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjrIjUUACgkQObaG4P6BelAMgQCglVVlH6i5ChRwszdnA2h9PHxY RfwAn21laeK8xDmeIt+Xi9MXsP0u8XAp =BSXI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 7:34:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED65537B71C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:34:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA06038; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:33:39 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda06035; Mon Apr 2 07:33:27 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f32EXMO63717; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdb63714; Mon Apr 2 07:32:25 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f32EWPD41365; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104021432.f32EWPD41365@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdE41359; Mon Apr 2 07:31:57 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 02:46:38 +0200." <986172398.3ac7cbee50610@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 07:31:57 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <986172398.3ac7cbee50610@webmail.harmonic.co.il>, Roman Shterenzon w rites: > Hi, > I've just got ADSL at home (using mpd-netgraph, Archie - it's really cool:) ) > . > After some amount of data passed through the line, I'm getting: > sendto: No buffer space available > even for ping (!) > > alchemy:/home/mapc% netstat -m > 178/880/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 148 mbufs allocated to data > 26 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 4 mbufs allocated to fragment reassembly queue headers > 143/240/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 700 Kbytes allocated to network (22% of mb_map in use) > 0 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > Thus, I don't see mbuf starvation. What could it be? Perhaps it's some other > error which is reported incorrectly? This is 4.3-RC2 kernel. I had this problem with a 3C509B card when pushing a lot of data through to a slower machine on my network. ifconfig ep0 down; ifconfig ep0 up fixed the problem when it occurred, however it would occur a number of times a day. I ultimately replaced the 3C509B. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 7:39:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5587537B720 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:39:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: from ler-freebie.iadfw.net (ler-freebie.iadfw.net [206.66.13.221]) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.12.0.Beta5/8.12.0.Beta5/20010318/$Revision: 1.18 $) with SMTP id f32Ed735020386 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:39:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) From: Larry Rosenman Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:39:07 GMT Message-ID: <20010402.14390700@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> Subject: KERN/26224 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2; Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can one of the kernel hackers look at PR kern/26224 and tell me what els= e=20 y'all need to find the problem? This is driving me nuts. Thanks, Larry Rosenman (aka ler@airmail.net) --=20 Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler/ Phone: +1 972 414 9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 US To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 7:41:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamus.xpert.com (jamus.xpert.com [199.203.132.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BDF37B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:41:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: from roman (helo=localhost) by jamus.xpert.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14k5ZC-0008Ut-00; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:44:26 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:44:26 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <200104021432.f32EWPD41365@cwsys.cwsent.com> Message-ID: Organization: Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > In message <986172398.3ac7cbee50610@webmail.harmonic.co.il>, Roman > Shterenzon w > rites: > > Hi, > > I've just got ADSL at home (using mpd-netgraph, Archie - it's really cool:) ) > > . > > After some amount of data passed through the line, I'm getting: > > sendto: No buffer space available > > even for ping (!) > > > > alchemy:/home/mapc% netstat -m > > 178/880/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > > 148 mbufs allocated to data > > 26 mbufs allocated to packet headers > > 4 mbufs allocated to fragment reassembly queue headers > > 143/240/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > > 700 Kbytes allocated to network (22% of mb_map in use) > > 0 requests for memory denied > > 0 requests for memory delayed > > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > > > Thus, I don't see mbuf starvation. What could it be? Perhaps it's some other > > error which is reported incorrectly? This is 4.3-RC2 kernel. > > I had this problem with a 3C509B card when pushing a lot of data > through to a slower machine on my network. ifconfig ep0 down; ifconfig > ep0 up fixed the problem when it occurred, however it would occur a > number of times a day. I ultimately replaced the 3C509B. I've 3c905B xl(4). I hadn't had any problems with it before I received ADSL modem. Ideas, anyone? > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca > Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA > Province of BC > > > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 7:45:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gdmckee.local (pc-62-30-209-11-so.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.209.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D4D37B719 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:45:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gdmckee.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (helo=p300) by gdmckee.local with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14k5YK-0001gc-00; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:43:32 +0000 Message-ID: <00be01c0bb83$4a326360$0500a8c0@gdmckee.local> From: "G D McKee" To: "Roman Shterenzon" , "Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group" Cc: References: Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:43:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I had one of these cards and I couldn't get the Cable modem to talk to the card at all. It wouldn't even pick up an IP address!! Put a PCI 3com card in the box and all has been fine ever since. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman Shterenzon" To: "Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group" Cc: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:44 PM Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available > On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > In message <986172398.3ac7cbee50610@webmail.harmonic.co.il>, Roman > > Shterenzon w > > rites: > > > Hi, > > > I've just got ADSL at home (using mpd-netgraph, Archie - it's really cool:) ) > > > . > > > After some amount of data passed through the line, I'm getting: > > > sendto: No buffer space available > > > even for ping (!) > > > > > > alchemy:/home/mapc% netstat -m > > > 178/880/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > > > 148 mbufs allocated to data > > > 26 mbufs allocated to packet headers > > > 4 mbufs allocated to fragment reassembly queue headers > > > 143/240/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > > > 700 Kbytes allocated to network (22% of mb_map in use) > > > 0 requests for memory denied > > > 0 requests for memory delayed > > > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > > > > > Thus, I don't see mbuf starvation. What could it be? Perhaps it's some other > > > error which is reported incorrectly? This is 4.3-RC2 kernel. > > > > I had this problem with a 3C509B card when pushing a lot of data > > through to a slower machine on my network. ifconfig ep0 down; ifconfig > > ep0 up fixed the problem when it occurred, however it would occur a > > number of times a day. I ultimately replaced the 3C509B. > > I've 3c905B xl(4). I hadn't had any problems with it before I received > ADSL modem. > Ideas, anyone? > > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > > Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca > > Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA > > Province of BC > > > > > > > > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant > [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 8: 2:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9524937B71C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:02:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id djtaaaaa for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:02:38 +1000 Message-ID: <3AC89558.83FF234F@quake.com.au> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 01:06:00 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Harding Cc: vcardona@home.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE References: <86430000.986138943@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> <20010401173846.A19749@marx.marvic.chum> <3AC880F6.DB4ADCB3@quake.com.au> <20010402142817.3D205113E81@netcom1.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Harding wrote: > > Uh - april fools. Slashdot is owned by VA Linux or another Linux > related company. Yeah I know it was april fools, but like I said, the points made in it are actualy very true... And like you say they couldnt change even if they wanted to since they are now owned by VALinux... I think they have some FreeBSD box's there for something tho... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 8:24:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE8C37B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:24:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA93586; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:24:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:24:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200104021524.RAA93586@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3 Release candidate #2 now ready X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.1-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Due to the recent security fixes which went into the tree, along with > the fact that I'll be following a very large moving truck on Monday > and will be somewhat busy, I'm releasing the second release candidate > image today instead of monday. I've also made two ISO images of 4.3-RC2 available at ftp7.de.freebsd.org: -rw-rw-r-- 1 inof bsd 430229504 Apr 02 15:45 4.3-RC2-combi.iso -rw-rw-r-- 1 inof bsd 49283072 Apr 02 15:54 4.3-RC2-mini.iso The "mini" ISO (47 Mbytes) contains ONLY the "bin" dist, so you can do a minimal install with this one, no more. You'll have to get everything else from the network once you've brought a machine up and running with this ISO. The "combi" ISO (410 Mbytes) contains the complete base system, the ports collection framework (but no distfiles nor packages), XFree86, _and_ this CD also contains a Live Filesystem, so you can use it as a "fixit" CD, too! I haven't tested either of these (due to lack of CD-Rs right now), but I'm pretty confident that the ISOs work fine. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 8:52:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5369437B720; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:52:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f32FpuF21949; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:51:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:51:56 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jordan K Hubbard , bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT In-Reply-To: <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Content-Disposition: INLINE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 12:20:22PM -0700, Jordan K Hubbard wrote: > > Man, people are still reading those instructions? :-) > > > > I agree that they're wrong but I'm about to go off the air for 4 days > > in about 10 minutes here so I can't fix them myself. If anyone would Actually ftp:*:99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin IS correct, the password is not checked for `ftp' or `anonymous'. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer is to computing what a McDonalds Certified Food Specialist is to fine cuisine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 8:55:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53ABC37B722 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:55:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61D710F400; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:55:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004b01c0bb8d$4d124640$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Rasputin" , References: <20010330184214.W53982-300000@hq1.tyfon.net> <002f01c0b958$076b3160$0404a8c0@smalweer.nl> <20010401031242.A70366@mail.webmonster.de> <05a301c0ba63$6e9bb240$931576d8@inethouston.net> <20010402021613.A75063@mail.webmonster.de> <20010402094316.A91958@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Subject: Re: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:55:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > * Karsten W. Rohrbach [010402 01:17]: > > it seems. i installed the patch (my apache is NOT built from ports) and > The patch has been merged into the port now, so perhaps cvsupping > and rebuilding the port will fix it. > If not, let the maintainer know. He's not using the ports, just this patch, probably should be using the ports though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 9:35:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from johndoe.over.net (johndoe2.over.net [193.189.189.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9415837B71B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:35:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomaz.borstnar@over.net) Received: from game.over.net (game.over.net [193.189.189.100]) by johndoe.over.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085DC24D08; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:35:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [193.189.169.10] ([193.189.169.10]:44118 "EHLO gonzales.over.net") by mail.over.net with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:35:00 +0200 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010402183033.03782cb0@193.189.189.100> X-Sender: tmail@193.189.189.100 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:32:22 +0200 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , Roman Shterenzon From: Tomaz Borstnar Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200104021432.f32EWPD41365@cwsys.cwsent.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 16:31 2.4.01, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > I've just got ADSL at home (using mpd-netgraph, Archie - it's really > cool:) ) > > After some amount of data passed through the line, I'm getting: > > sendto: No buffer space available >I had this problem with a 3C509B card when pushing a lot of data >through to a slower machine on my network. ifconfig ep0 down; ifconfig >ep0 up fixed the problem when it occurred, however it would occur a >number of times a day. I ultimately replaced the 3C509B. Interesting. I have exactly this problem with this card. It happens usually after lots of data transfers and after variable numbers of uptime days. Tomaz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 9:40:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com [171.71.163.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3D837B720; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:40:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00211; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f32GeEA99878; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:40:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200104021640.f32GeEA99878@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/19/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jordan K Hubbard , bmah@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT In-Reply-To: <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Comments: In-reply-to Nik Clayton message dated "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:26:18 +0100." From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_545781048P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:40:13 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_545781048P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote: > Patch attached. Bruce, this is your area, do you want to do this, or > shall I? Errr...now I've inherited all the *.TXT files too? :-) I'll be happy to do it once I know exactly what the correct text is. I might play around with this if I get some time today. Cheers, Bruce. --==_Exmh_545781048P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE6yKtt2MoxcVugUsMRAhERAJ9Blhpyid+pSb3PdvIsPd1wNLzImQCfaPVG qjc3rmyKrtthnqSZF5TDT50= =YMGW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_545781048P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 9:46:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamus.xpert.com (jamus.xpert.com [199.203.132.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C0A37B722 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:46:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: from roman (helo=localhost) by jamus.xpert.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14k7Xv-0000GP-00; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:51:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:51:15 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Tomaz Borstnar Cc: Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010402183033.03782cb0@193.189.189.100> Message-ID: Organization: Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just hope that you don't mistake the cards. There's 3c509 isa ep(4) card, which is buggy and there's 3c905B and 3c905C pci cards xl(4) cards, which are known to be good. I'm not sure which is better, xl of fxp, both are fine. How can I debug this problem? It occures ramdomly, but when it does, there's some pattern: 64 bytes from 192.115.106.10: icmp_seq=14 ttl=251 time=30.161 ms ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available 64 bytes from 192.115.106.10: icmp_seq=24 ttl=251 time=30.842 ms ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available 64 bytes from 192.115.106.10: icmp_seq=34 ttl=251 time=30.638 ms ping: sendto: No buffer space available There's some pattern here.. On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Tomaz Borstnar wrote: > At 16:31 2.4.01, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > I've just got ADSL at home (using mpd-netgraph, Archie - it's really > > cool:) ) > > > After some amount of data passed through the line, I'm getting: > > > sendto: No buffer space available > >I had this problem with a 3C509B card when pushing a lot of data > >through to a slower machine on my network. ifconfig ep0 down; ifconfig > >ep0 up fixed the problem when it occurred, however it would occur a > >number of times a day. I ultimately replaced the 3C509B. > Interesting. I have exactly this problem with this card. It happens usually > after lots of data transfers and after variable numbers of uptime days. > > Tomaz > > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 9:52:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F2A237B71B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:52:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 8968 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Apr 2001 16:52:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:52:41 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: Ron Klinkien , Dan Larsson , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC Message-ID: <20010402185241.B8495@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010330184214.W53982-300000@hq1.tyfon.net> <002f01c0b958$076b3160$0404a8c0@smalweer.nl> <20010401031242.A70366@mail.webmonster.de> <05a301c0ba63$6e9bb240$931576d8@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <05a301c0ba63$6e9bb240$931576d8@inethouston.net>; from dwcjr@inethouston.net on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 10:22:58PM -0600 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG okay set servername in main config: segv problems are gone with or without the patch /k David W. Chapman Jr.(dwcjr@inethouston.net)@2001.03.31 22:22:58 +0000: > does that have anything to do with this > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/www/apache13/files/patch-util.c > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" > To: "Ron Klinkien" > Cc: "Dan Larsson" ; "FreeBSD Stable List" > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 7:12 PM > Subject: Re: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC > > > > why that? if dns works... it should not be a problem. > > that issue puzzles me a bit > > /k > > > > Ron Klinkien(ron@zappa.demon.nl)@2001.03.30 22:28:49 +0000: > > > Make sure your /etc/hosts file is up to date. ie. it > > > lists the ip adress of the host you run apache on. > > > > > > Ron. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dan Larsson" > > > To: "FreeBSD Stable List" > > > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:50 PM > > > Subject: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a clue why I get these segfaults? > > > > > > > > (The apache port installed is /usr/ports/www/apache13 with no > > > > optimizations or extra modules) > > > > > > > > I have attached the debug and dmesg. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > +------ > > > > Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 > > > > Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 > > > > GPG and PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > > "I didn't change a thing and from the moment I didn't change it, > > > it didn't work anymore." -- Anonymous > > KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > -- > Floppy now, hard later. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 9:53:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isotope.rootprompt.net (mail.rootprompt.net [208.53.161.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C16C37B71E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@rootprompt.net) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:53:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Banniza Reply-To: robert@mail.rootprompt.net To: Kal Torak Cc: "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <3AC880F6.DB4ADCB3@quake.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not to start a flame war here but I'd be willing to bet that Slashdot does NOT move to FreeBSD. If you noticed, yesterday was April Fool's Day and there are always jokes on Slashdot on 4/01. With that said, I like FreeBSD better than Linux but I believe /. is pulling your leg. Robert On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > "Victor R. Cardona" wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 11:29:03AM -0400, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: > > > As much as I prefer FreeBSD over Linux, I think you have more proof of > > > moron "installers" there; we have both FreeBSD and SuSE Linux (and I > > > personally support the latter, including 7.1), and neither has any such > > > problems in my experience. Both support mostly the same hardware. > > > > > > (SuSE and Debian go a long way toward making Linux tolerable, if not the > > > quality OS that FreeBSD is.) > > > > I have to second that. I use SuSE on my workstations, and FreeBSD on > > servers, and am happy with both. > > > I have to totaly dissagree... Linux is crap! Not only is its development > totaly disorganised, let alone the fact there is billions of dists, its > really only a toy... There is no way they can make linux even close to > tolerable! > > FreeBSD everywhere! Even slashdot is moving to FreeBSD cos they had enough > of linux! > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 9:56: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.236.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578C037B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:56:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from tully (allbery@TULLY.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.236.132]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f32Gs9r03867 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 12:54:09 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available Message-ID: <30120000.986230449@tully> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, April 02, 2001 06:51:15 PM +0200, Roman Shterenzon wrote: +----- | 3c905B and 3c905C pci cards xl(4) cards, which are known to be good. +--->8 Er, I just resolved a problem where 4.2-RELEASE and later (unknown about earlier) would start spewing "microuptime() went backwards" which went away completely when I replaced the 3c905B with a NetGear FA311. I could reliably reproduce this by exercising network and disk simultaneously, e.g. by scping large files to the host. This happened off and on with two different machines whose only common factor was the use of a 3c905B card (and not even the same card). -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 10:51:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7909937B722 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA06682 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:51:44 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda06680; Mon Apr 2 10:51:37 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f32HpVr65256 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdh65254; Mon Apr 2 10:50:31 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f32HoU542109 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104021750.f32HoU542109@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpda42106; Mon Apr 2 10:50:28 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: vmstat, iostat, top, and systat don't show CPU % Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:50:28 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For about a week I've been seeing outputs from vmstat that look like the following: procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad0 ad2 in sy cs us sy id 1 1 0 27856 7516 30 0 0 0 56 30 0 0 374 475 183 10 12 77 0 1 0 25512 7440 52 0 1 0 12 0 0 0 133 373 88 0 0 0 0 1 0 25872 7440 39 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 146 402 101 0 0 0 systat -v reports, The alternate system clock has died! Reverting to ``pigs'' display. The problem started occurring on March 25. I've cvsupped three times since then. uname reports: FreeBSD cwsys 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Sun Apr 1 11:10:56 PDT 2001 root@:/opt/cvs-430b/src/sys/compile/CWSYS i386 The problem looks like PR 10411, however it is on a uniprocessor P120 system. Any ideas? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 11: 1: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fmdb.c3.hu (dial-075.digitel2002.hu [213.163.2.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61BD937B71F for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:00:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mico@bsd.hu) Received: (qmail 280 invoked by uid 1003); 2 Apr 2001 16:56:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:56:45 +0200 From: Miklos Niedermayer To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available Message-ID: <20010402185645.A241@fmdb.c3.hu> References: <200104021432.f32EWPD41365@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from roman@xpert.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 04:44:26PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Roman! On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 04:44:26PM +0200, Roman Shterenzon wrote: > > I had this problem with a 3C509B card when pushing a lot of data > > through to a slower machine on my network. ifconfig ep0 down; ifconfig > > ep0 up fixed the problem when it occurred, however it would occur a > > number of times a day. I ultimately replaced the 3C509B. > > I've 3c905B xl(4). I hadn't had any problems with it before I received > ADSL modem. > Ideas, anyone? Well, see another thread ("Network performance question"). 3Com 905 does the same thing for me. It's... hmm. Evil. I bought some cheap RTL 8139's and they're working fine without problems. (Well, I didn't say they're the best NIC's but they work for me, a lot better than expected.) Miklos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 11:14:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamus.xpert.com (jamus.xpert.com [199.203.132.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D6C37B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: from roman (helo=localhost) by jamus.xpert.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14k8us-0000Oe-00; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:19:02 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:19:02 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Miklos Niedermayer Cc: Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <20010402185645.A241@fmdb.c3.hu> Message-ID: Organization: Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Miklos Niedermayer wrote: > Hi Roman! > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 04:44:26PM +0200, Roman Shterenzon wrote: > > > > I had this problem with a 3C509B card when pushing a lot of data > > > through to a slower machine on my network. ifconfig ep0 down; ifconfig > > > ep0 up fixed the problem when it occurred, however it would occur a > > > number of times a day. I ultimately replaced the 3C509B. > > > > I've 3c905B xl(4). I hadn't had any problems with it before I received > > ADSL modem. > > Ideas, anyone? > > Well, see another thread ("Network performance question"). 3Com 905 does the > same thing for me. It's... hmm. Evil. I bought some cheap RTL 8139's and > they're working fine without problems. (Well, I didn't say they're the best > NIC's but they work for me, a lot better than expected.) Perhaps the xl(4) or mii is evil? We've bunch of these cards working with Solaris 2.6/x86, Linux and NT, flawlessly AFAIK. Donald Becker as of Linux drivers stated that it's a nice piece of hw as far as I remember. He had some dedicated webpages somewhere at nasa.gov. fxp(4) on the other hand is rumored to intervene with vinum's raid5... :( --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 11:19:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dl-adsl-c8e42271.sao.terra.com.br (dl-adsl-C8E42271.sao.terra.com.br [200.228.34.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4D7137B722 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:19:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcelo@dl-adsl-c8e42271.sao.terra.com.br) Received: (qmail 17593 invoked by uid 500); 2 Apr 2001 18:18:03 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:18:03 +0000 From: marcelo c martinelli To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: Mike Harding , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <20010402181803.A17441@terra.com.br> Reply-To: mmartinelli@bigfoot.com Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Mike Harding , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <86430000.986138943@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> <20010401173846.A19749@marx.marvic.chum> <3AC880F6.DB4ADCB3@quake.com.au> <20010402142817.3D205113E81@netcom1.netcom.com> <20010402103133.A13115@peitho.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20010402103133.A13115@peitho.fxp.org>; from jedgar@fxp.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 10:31:33AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 10:31:33AM -0400, Chris Faulhaber wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 07:28:17AM -0700, Mike Harding wrote: > >=20 > > Uh - april fools. Slashdot is owned by VA Linux or another Linux > > related company. > >=20 >=20 > Sure, but don't they still use a FreeBSD firewall for the > Slashdot machines? :) >=20 > --=20 > Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org > -------------------------------------------------------- > FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org there is a post already on slashdot (posted on april 2, not april fools' day), confirming the move to freebsd-5.0-current. here is the link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D01/04/02/0326237&mode=3Dthread also, i find it hard to believe that a company that supports open source software and, therefore, the freedom it gives users to choose whichever software base he/she sees fit, would oppose a move to freebsd - or any other open source alternative for that matter. personally, i think that if va blocks slashdot from moving to freebsd (independently of the story being true or not), it will be a bad strategic move on their part. -- marcelo cardoso martinelli mmartinelli@bigfoot.com / marcelo@hvymtl.org --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6yMJaLbA1bZ5Ju+wRAkP3AKDFYb8wJrIkUa5IC+a+5bSmddDaXgCfdhZz jT1p+OTN2TBnSroFyu+xU9I= =KfDI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 11:32:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5916437B71E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:32:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p1341.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.170.66]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f32IW7q05788; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:32:08 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:32:04 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: mmartinelli@bigfoot.com Cc: jedgar@fxp.org, mvh@ix.netcom.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE Message-Id: <20010402203204.5390df2b.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: <20010402181803.A17441@terra.com.br> References: <86430000.986138943@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> <20010401173846.A19749@marx.marvic.chum> <3AC880F6.DB4ADCB3@quake.com.au> <20010402142817.3D205113E81@netcom1.netcom.com> <20010402103133.A13115@peitho.fxp.org> <20010402181803.A17441@terra.com.br> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.60 (GTK+ 1.2.8; FreeBSD 4.3-RC; i386) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:18:03 +0000 marcelo c martinelli wrote: MM> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/02/0326237&mode=thread Following this leads to a message headed: Posted by AilleCat on Sunday April 01, @11:00PM It is a pretty clear April Fool. -- Optimal hardware acceleration for Windows PC (Mac). 9.98 m/s/s applied for (at least) 2s followed by impact with solid object. Optimal software upgrade FreeBSD (OS-X). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 11:56:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B929337B71A; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA05355; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f32Iuqc19018; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200104021856.f32Iuqc19018@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/19/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: mmartinelli@bigfoot.com, jedgar@fxp.org, mvh@ix.netcom.com, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.18 vs. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20010402203204.5390df2b.steveo@eircom.net> References: <86430000.986138943@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> <20010401173846.A19749@marx.marvic.chum> <3AC880F6.DB4ADCB3@quake.com.au> <20010402142817.3D205113E81@netcom1.netcom.com> <20010402103133.A13115@peitho.fxp.org> <20010402181803.A17441@terra.com.br> <20010402203204.5390df2b.steveo@eircom.net> Comments: In-reply-to "Steve O'Hara-Smith" message dated "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 20:32:04 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1613157280P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:56:52 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-1613157280P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii People, please take this elsewhere. Linux flames or the latest /. April Fools joke have nothing to do with freebsd-stable. Thanks, Bruce. If memory serves me right, "Steve O'Hara-Smith" wrote: > On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:18:03 +0000 > marcelo c martinelli wrote: > > > MM> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/02/0326237&mode=thread > Following this leads to a message headed: > > Posted by AilleCat on Sunday April 01, > @11:00PM > > It is a pretty clear April Fool. > > -- > Optimal hardware acceleration for Windows PC (Mac). > 9.98 m/s/s applied for (at least) 2s followed by impact with solid object. > Optimal software upgrade > FreeBSD (OS-X). > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > --==_Exmh_-1613157280P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE6yMt02MoxcVugUsMRAhYrAJ9rEgZ117LoJ1a/M1GTF6Myi4Q/CQCfV/0E zAh9XTW+JvYPug974/9LAzs= =KzsW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1613157280P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 12: 1:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD0937B71E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:01:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14k9a8-0009wI-00; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:01:41 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f32J1e599668; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:01:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:01:40 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: quick kernel compiles Message-ID: <20010402200140.B99588@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010401212627.A30546@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from conrads@home.com on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 10:29:55PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | >| A much easier way is to set the environment variable MODULES_WITH_WORLD=true | >| in /etc/make.conf. | > | > And then i just use 'make kernel' after that ? | | Well, if you want to build from /usr/src, you'd use | "make KERNCONF=name buildkernel", or you could use but i would still need 'make KERNCONF=name kernel' to build AND install, right? jm -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org "It took the computing power of three C-64s to fly to the Moon. It takes a 486 to run Windows 95. Something is wrong here." --------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 12: 5:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900F037B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:05:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id MAA07005 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:05:26 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda07003; Mon Apr 2 12:05:12 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f32J57c65875 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdC65853; Mon Apr 2 12:04:34 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f32J4Xt42628 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104021904.f32J4Xt42628@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdt42623; Mon Apr 2 12:03:45 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vmstat, iostat, top, and systat don't show CPU % In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:50:28 PDT." <200104021750.f32HoU542109@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 12:03:45 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Some additional information. It appears to be related to the RTC not incrimenting. cwsys$ vmstat -i; sleep 10; echo; vmstat -i interrupt total rate ata0 irq14 91048 1 ata1 irq15 120054 1 ahc0 irq9 880952 9 xl0 irq5 116231 1 fdc0 irq6 2 0 aha0 irq11 4346 0 atkbd0 irq1 7 0 sio1 irq3 13 0 ed0 irq10 11311496 126 clk irq0 8920407 100 rtc irq8 10268446 115 Total 31713002 355 interrupt total rate ata0 irq14 91055 1 ata1 irq15 120054 1 ahc0 irq9 880952 9 xl0 irq5 116390 1 fdc0 irq6 2 0 aha0 irq11 4346 0 atkbd0 irq1 7 0 sio1 irq3 13 0 ed0 irq10 11311496 126 clk irq0 8921414 100 rtc irq8 10268446 115 Total 31714175 355 cwsys$ Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC In message <200104021750.f32HoU542109@cwsys.cwsent.com>, Cy Schubert - ITSD Ope n Systems Group writes: > For about a week I've been seeing outputs from vmstat that look like > the following: > > procs memory page disks faults cpu > r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad0 ad2 in sy cs us > sy id > 1 1 0 27856 7516 30 0 0 0 56 30 0 0 374 475 183 10 > 12 77 > 0 1 0 25512 7440 52 0 1 0 12 0 0 0 133 373 88 0 > 0 0 > 0 1 0 25872 7440 39 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 146 402 101 0 > 0 0 > > systat -v reports, > > The alternate system clock has died! > Reverting to ``pigs'' display. > > The problem started occurring on March 25. I've cvsupped three times > since then. > > uname reports: > > FreeBSD cwsys 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Sun Apr 1 11:10:56 PDT 2001 > root@:/opt/cvs-430b/src/sys/compile/CWSYS i386 > > The problem looks like PR 10411, however it is on a uniprocessor P120 > system. > > Any ideas? > > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca > Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA > Province of BC > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 12:12:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (mobile.acadiau.ca [131.162.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C582037B720; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:12:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f32JBv671623; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:11:59 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:11:57 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Cc: Subject: IBM PC Server 704 ... dual pentium pro ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone have any experiences iwth one of these? we've had it here, running Dual with Solaris/x86, for the past two years. They upgraded the machine, and plan on using this one for a database server for one of their projects, so we installed FreeBSD 4.3-RC onto it ... but it appears to 'hang' periodically ... funny thing is that dmesg and /var/run/dmesg.boot show pretty much 'garbage': aittdb# dmesg num/raid: fxp0: port 0xff00-0xff3f mem 0xfe900000-0xfe9fffff,0xfeaff000-0xfeafffff irq 2 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:bb:8c:63 aittdb# cat /var/run/dmesg.boot OWNER=root MODE=100644 aittdb# /var/log/messages shows from a few days ago shows, if anything stands out in here? Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RC #1: Fri Mar 30 15:04:03 AST 2001 root@demeter.acadiau.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/aittdb Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium Pro (198.95-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping = 9 Features=0xfbff real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) avail memory = 519921664 (507736K bytes) APIC_IO: MP table broken: 8259->APIC entry missing! Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #1 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 14, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec00000 io1 (APIC): apic id: 13, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec01000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02d4000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 0 -> irq 2 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1229) at 11.0 irq 2 isab0: at device 14.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 chip0: <> mem 0xfffffc00-0xffffffff,0xfffffc00-0xffffffff,0xfffffc00-0xffffffff,0xfffffc00-0xffffffff,0xfffffc00-0xffffffff,0xfec01000-0xfec013ff at device 15.0 on pci0 chip1: at device 20.0 on pci0 pcib1: on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 12 -> irq 16 IOAPIC #1 intpin 13 -> irq 17 pci1: on pcib1 ahc0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xfe1ff000-0xfe1fffff irq 16 at device 11.0 on pci1 ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfe1fe000-0xfe1fefff irq 17 at device 12.0 on pci1 ahc1: Using left over BIOS settings aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! acd0: CDROM at ata0-master using BIOSPIO Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle pass0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 pass0: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device pass0: 3.300MB/s transfers pass4 at ahc1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 pass4: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device pass4: 3.300MB/s transfers Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da4 at ahc1 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da4: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da4: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 10 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) da3 at ahc1 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da3: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) da5 at ahc1 bus 0 target 10 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da5: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da5: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) fxp0: port 0xff00-0xff3f mem 0xfe900000-0xfe9fffff,0xfeaff000-0xfeafffff irq 2 at device 11.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:bb:8c:63 the kernel compile was on: aittdb# uname -a FreeBSD aittdb.acadiau.ca 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #1: Fri Mar 30 15:04:03 AST 2001 root@demeter.acadiau.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/aittdb i386 and we're using vinum, in the following configuration, to give us a RAID5 array: aittdb# cat /root/vinum.cfg drive d1 device /dev/da1s1a drive d2 device /dev/da4s1a drive d3 device /dev/da2s1a drive d4 device /dev/da5s1a volume raid plex org raid5 479k sd size 0 drive d1 sd size 0 drive d2 sd size 0 drive d3 sd size 0 drive d4 the last 'hang' happened when we tried to install jdk12-beta ... I'd say its whenever there is heavy disk I/O, but when it first started happened, and we'd run top, all the numbers came in pretty much as zero ... thoughts as to where to look? known problems with these machiens? Thanks ... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 12:19:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gate1.health.state.ny.us (gate.health.state.ny.us [192.135.176.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E9A237B719 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sds07@health.state.ny.us) Received: by gate1.health.state.ny.us id PAA12973 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG); Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:19:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200104021919.PAA12973@gate1.health.state.ny.us> Received: by gate1.health.state.ny.us (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:19:18 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NYSDOH From: "Steven D. Smith" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:19:01 -0400 Subject: Xwrapper - HOW_TO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello All, I need to find an Xwrapper How-to... I've successfully installed XFree86 4.0.3, KDE 2.1... root runs kde fine, any other user cannot... When I run Xwrapper as user... I get an blank screen with my mouse cursor.... An help would be appreciated... TIA, S. Douglas Smith Sr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 12:21:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91AC37B728 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:21:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 88EF713615; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:21:08 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: "Steven D. Smith" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xwrapper - HOW_TO Message-ID: <20010402152108.A94099@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , "Steven D. Smith" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200104021919.PAA12973@gate1.health.state.ny.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104021919.PAA12973@gate1.health.state.ny.us>; from sds07@health.state.ny.us on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 03:19:01PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 03:19:01PM -0400, Steven D. Smith wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hello All, > I need to find an Xwrapper How-to... I've successfully installed XFr= ee86 > 4.0.3, KDE 2.1... > root runs kde fine, > any other user cannot... > When I run Xwrapper as user... I get an blank screen with my mouse cursor= .... > An help would be appreciated... >=20 At the end of the XFree86-4 installation, the following should pop up: ************************************************************************ * To improve security, the X server is installed without an SUID bit. * * This is suitable for use with xdm, but not with a startx script. * * If you need to use a startx script, install the x11/wrapper package. * ************************************************************************ --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjrI0SQACgkQObaG4P6BelBvJACgmDTzBUNSiLXj13N5jFJlX6Pa tBwAmwZhj6mW4B1h1Hi7slT+GjWZfV9B =/doS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 12:22:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com [171.70.157.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4202337B725; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:22:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04313; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f32JM6d19576; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:22:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200104021922.f32JM6d19576@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/19/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jordan K Hubbard , bmah@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT In-Reply-To: <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Comments: In-reply-to Nik Clayton message dated "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:26:18 +0100." From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-966198832P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 12:22:06 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-966198832P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote: > Patch attached. Bruce, this is your area, do you want to do this, or > shall I? Hi Nik-- Empirical evidence shows that the original ftp passwd line is correct. I propose the following patch instead, which deals with the "release name" issue but should (I think) reflect the realities of anon FTP. (Picture the same patch for the alpha of course.) How's this? If it gets your point across I'll do the relevant commits. Bruce. Index: i386/INSTALL.TXT =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/texts/i386/INSTALL.TXT,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -c -r1.15 INSTALL.TXT *** i386/INSTALL.TXT 2001/03/16 22:55:55 1.15 --- i386/INSTALL.TXT 2001/04/02 19:20:36 *************** *** 142,148 **** ftp:*:99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin ! And anyone else on your network will now be able to choose a Media type of FTP and type in: ``ftp://'' after picking "URL" in the ftp sites menu. --- 142,153 ---- ftp:*:99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin ! Warning: This may allow anyone on the local network (or Internet) to ! make "anonymous FTP" connections to this machine, which may not be ! desirable. ! ! On the machine on which you are running the install, go to the "Options" ! menu and set "Release Name" to "any". You may then choose a Media type of FTP and type in: ``ftp://'' after picking "URL" in the ftp sites menu. --==_Exmh_-966198832P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE6yNFe2MoxcVugUsMRAuP8AKCYQZznTExnkbexvGjFWBy3Idk8FgCeL0iU kcgcanc4k1h6ECgvC8mr9BQ= =QSUi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-966198832P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 12:22:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5D237B71E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:22:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f32JMmm02655; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:22:48 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: David Schwartz Cc: Greg Lehey , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-RC processes stuck sleeping on "inode" (?vinum) problem update Message-ID: <20010402122247.W813@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20010402022257.N813@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from davids@webmaster.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 11:53:25AM -0700 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * David Schwartz [010402 11:53] wrote: > > For the record, I've had a lot of problems with FreeBSD machines failing by > getting into a mode where large numbers of processes start blocking on > 'inode' for long periods of time. This is with 4-STABLE builds over the past > several months. The triggering event seems to be when a long-running > multithreaded program using the LinuxThreads port terminates on an SMP > machine. Do you have anything else in common with the cases mentioned such as using vinum or some other disk manager? -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Represent yourself, show up at BABUG http://www.babug.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 12:26: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B43C37B71F; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:26:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 9030B13614; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:26:05 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Nik Clayton , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT Message-ID: <20010402152605.B94099@peitho.fxp.org> References: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <200104021922.f32JM6d19576@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104021922.f32JM6d19576@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:22:06PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:22:06PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > --- 142,153 ---- > =20 > ftp:*:99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin > =20 > ! Warning: This may allow anyone on the local network (or Internet) to > ! make "anonymous FTP" connections to this machine, which may not be= =20 > ! desirable. You might also want to mention the world-writable 'incoming' directory that also gets set up . --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjrI0k0ACgkQObaG4P6BelBwJwCgkpdkHO5I5/o9PMILd0kPoZen XV0AmQG5VS3ci19WjMJqaicEEiwMd/ct =tmJx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mojUlQ0s9EVzWg2t-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 12:27:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gate1.health.state.ny.us (gate.health.state.ny.us [192.135.176.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 852E237B71A for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:27:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sds07@health.state.ny.us) Received: by gate1.health.state.ny.us id PAA14494 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG); Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:27:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200104021927.PAA14494@gate1.health.state.ny.us> Received: by gate1.health.state.ny.us (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:27:10 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NYSDOH From: "Steven D. Smith" To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:26:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Xwrapper - HOW_TO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=jgXx85N1zBmBArIVDc06wyLER8WQAdVYCe3Ovo6uOqy9NfpIo5RTp2eW" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0__=jgXx85N1zBmBArIVDc06wyLER8WQAdVYCe3Ovo6uOqy9NfpIo5RTp2eW Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline yes... I did that too! No difference... Chris Faulhaber on 04/02/2001 03:21:08 PM To: Steven D. Smith/HSB/ISHSG/DIVADMIN/DOH@NYSDOH cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xwrapper - HOW_TO On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 03:19:01PM -0400, Steven D. Smith wrote: > > > Hello All, > I need to find an Xwrapper How-to... I've successfully installed XFree86 > 4.0.3, KDE 2.1... > root runs kde fine, > any other user cannot... > When I run Xwrapper as user... I get an blank screen with my mouse cursor.... > An help would be appreciated... > At the end of the XFree86-4 installation, the following should pop up: ************************************************************************ * To improve security, the X server is installed without an SUID bit. * * This is suitable for use with xdm, but not with a startx script. * * If you need to use a startx script, install the x11/wrapper package. * ************************************************************************ -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --0__=jgXx85N1zBmBArIVDc06wyLER8WQAdVYCe3Ovo6uOqy9NfpIo5RTp2eW Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="att1.unk" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="att1.unk" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0NClZlcnNpb246IEdudVBHIHYxLjAuNCAoRnJl ZUJTRCkNCkNvbW1lbnQ6IEZyZWVCU0Q6IFRoZSBQb3dlciBUbyBTZXJ2ZQ0KDQppRVlFQVJFQ0FB WUZBanJJMFNRQUNna1FPYmFHNFA2QmVsQnZKQUNnbURUekJVTlNpTFhqMTNONWpGSmxYNlBhDQp0 QndBbXdaaGo2bVc0QjFoMUhpN3NsVCtHaldaZlY5Qg0KPS9kb1MNCi0tLS0tRU5EIFBHUCBTSUdO QVRVUkUtLS0tLQ0KDQo= --0__=jgXx85N1zBmBArIVDc06wyLER8WQAdVYCe3Ovo6uOqy9NfpIo5RTp2eW-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 12:58:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gate1.health.state.ny.us (gate.health.state.ny.us [192.135.176.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1558437B725 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:58:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sds07@health.state.ny.us) Received: by gate1.health.state.ny.us id PAA20238 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for Freebsd-stable@freebsd.org); Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:58:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200104021958.PAA20238@gate1.health.state.ny.us> Received: by gate1.health.state.ny.us (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:58:20 -0400 X-Lotus-Fromdomain: NYSDOH From: "Steven D. Smith" To: Freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:57:52 -0400 Subject: help for setting ADSL connection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any clarification would be appreciated! :) ---------------------- Forwarded by Steven D. Smith/HSB/ISHSG/DIVADMIN/DOH on 04/02/2001 03:57 PM --------------------------- "Steven D. Smith" on 04/02/2001 03:52:34 PM To: "Lee, Jaeho" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, reebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (bcc: Steven D. Smith/HSB/ISHSG/DIVADMIN/DOH) Subject: RE: help for setting ADSL connection If you remember, let me know how you make out... If you find out anything new, let me know... I'm still having a problem that I don't know how to resolve just yet... I have WinPoet installed on a Windows 98 machine.... My Freebsd machine is my Gateway... Well, occasionally, I'll lose the connection to verizon... If I reset/reboot the gateway and modem... sometimes, nothing happens, still no connection... That's when I have to use the Windows 98 PC to establish the connection... afterwards I just switch patch cables and my network seems fine... I'm still in the process of diagnosing what works and what doesn't... You mileage may vary, tax and title extra, void where prohibited... :) "Lee, Jaeho" on 04/02/2001 03:39:01 PM To: Steven D. Smith/HSB/ISHSG/DIVADMIN/DOH@NYSDOH cc: Subject: RE: help for setting ADSL connection It looks like you are using PPPoE, not just PPP. Or are they same thing? Thanks, /Jaeho -----Original Message----- From: Steven D. Smith [mailto:sds07@health.state.ny.us] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:31 PM To: Lee, Jaeho Subject: Re: help for setting ADSL connection I'm using 4.3 RC1 -- using ppp to connect to Verizon ADSL... you may have to recompile your kernel "You need to rebuild your kernel with these options: # PPPoE options options NETGRAPH options NETGRAPH_PPPOE options NETGRAPH_SOCKET hth, Riley " "Lee, Jaeho" on 04/02/2001 03:18:17 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org cc: (bcc: Steven D. Smith/HSB/ISHSG/DIVADMIN/DOH) Subject: help for setting ADSL connection Hello, * I posted this question to freebsd-newbies. But I got no reply. This is first question to this news group. I am setting FreeBSD as my gateway to internet for my home network. I got several resources over the net. But I am little bit confused which one to use. I am connecting Verizon ADSL. It is ADSL connected to one of Ethernet card of FreeBSD box. 1) Should I use PPP or PPPoE? 2) For home networking, should I use IPFW & NATD or ppp's NAT facility? Your answer will save tremendous time. Thanks in advance. /Jaeho Lee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 13: 1:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from math.missouri.edu (math.missouri.edu [128.206.49.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED0037B722 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:01:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen@cauchy.math.missouri.edu [128.206.49.166]) by math.missouri.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13371; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:01:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Message-ID: <3AC8DA84.70D5B850@math.missouri.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 15:01:08 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Organization: University of Missouri X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steven D. Smith" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xwrapper - HOW_TO References: <200104021919.PAA12973@gate1.health.state.ny.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I simply set the uid bit on xinit: chmod 4755 /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit "Steven D. Smith" wrote: > > Hello All, > I need to find an Xwrapper How-to... I've successfully installed XFree86 > 4.0.3, KDE 2.1... > root runs kde fine, > any other user cannot... > When I run Xwrapper as user... I get an blank screen with my mouse cursor.... > An help would be appreciated... > > TIA, > S. Douglas Smith Sr. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 13: 5:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4933637B719; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08232; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f32K5iL20120; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:05:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200104022005.f32K5iL20120@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/19/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Nik Clayton , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT In-Reply-To: <20010402152605.B94099@peitho.fxp.org> References: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <200104021922.f32JM6d19576@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010402152605.B94099@peitho.fxp.org> Comments: In-reply-to Chris Faulhaber message dated "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 15:26:05 -0400." From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-143138176P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:05:44 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-143138176P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Chris Faulhaber wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:22:06PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > --- 142,153 ---- > > =20 > > ftp:*:99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin > > =20 > > ! Warning: This may allow anyone on the local network (or Internet) to > > ! make "anonymous FTP" connections to this machine, which may not be= > =20 > > ! desirable. > > You might also want to mention the world-writable 'incoming' directory > that also gets set up . Ummm...what? In the context of these instructions, ~ftp is a (presumed write-only) CDROM drive, not on the machine where you're trying to install FreeBSD, but on another machine somewhere else on the network. Is it possible you have this confused with the anonymous FTP service that can be established via sysinstall? Bruce. --==_Exmh_-143138176P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE6yNuY2MoxcVugUsMRAsBIAJwNgSpsJUx4OYn19izTirPBW0tqyACfScXB hG8DkzCFLWmcvFQEW6Ib6Vg= =jSlN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-143138176P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 13: 8:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542BA37B71C; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:08:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3C84213614; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:08:24 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Nik Clayton , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT Message-ID: <20010402160824.A11308@peitho.fxp.org> References: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <200104021922.f32JM6d19576@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010402152605.B94099@peitho.fxp.org> <200104022005.f32K5iL20120@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104022005.f32K5iL20120@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 01:05:44PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 01:05:44PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Chris Faulhaber wrote: >=20 > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:22:06PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > --- 142,153 ---- > > > =3D20 > > > ftp:*:99:99::0:0:FTP:/cdrom:/sbin/nologin > > > =3D20 > > > ! Warning: This may allow anyone on the local network (or Interne= t) to > > > ! make "anonymous FTP" connections to this machine, which may not = be=3D > > =3D20 > > > ! desirable. > >=20 > > You might also want to mention the world-writable 'incoming' directory > > that also gets set up . >=20 > Ummm...what? >=20 > In the context of these instructions, ~ftp is a (presumed write-only) > CDROM drive, not on the machine where you're trying to install FreeBSD, > but on another machine somewhere else on the network. Is it possible > you have this confused with the anonymous FTP service that can be > established via sysinstall? >=20 Oops, guess I should have looked at the context a bit longer :) --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjrI3DgACgkQObaG4P6BelC3RgCfYuXDiyNiv/GTT9yhBlf0C4KZ Q4AAoIbcVVxjrN9Pico8E8YM68MHoIGN =+YAC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 13:30:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tgd.net (rand.tgd.net [64.81.67.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D23837B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@mailhost.tgd.net) Received: (qmail 52665 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Apr 2001 20:30:04 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:30:04 -0700 From: Sean Chittenden To: Dan Larsson Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: mod_perl-1.25 syntax error on FreeBSD-4.3 RC Message-ID: <20010402133004.C52470@rand.tgd.net> References: <20010402141450.P10131-100000@hq1.tyfon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dkEUBIird37B8yKS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010402141450.P10131-100000@hq1.tyfon.net>; from "dl@tyfon.net" on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at = 02:18:23PM X-PGP-Key: 0x1EDDFAAD X-PGP-Fingerprint: C665 A17F 9A56 286C 5CFB 1DEA 9F4F 5CEF 1EDD FAAD X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --dkEUBIird37B8yKS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dime to dollar at least one of two things: 1) You've built a threaded perl (check /etc/make.conf) 2) You statically compiled mod_perl into apache and didn't use apxs. I ran into this problem and it hurt pretty hard. The solution was to make world w/o a threaded perl. You can also use the ports tree (I've been pleasantly surprised by how nice it handles apache/mod_perl/mod_ssp/php stuff). -sc PS I don't know exactly why threaded perl suddenly broke apache, but that's a new twist from 4.2 to 4.3 On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 02:18:23PM +0200, Dan Larsson wrote: > Delivered-To: sean-freebsd-stable@chittenden.org > Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:18:23 +0200 (CEST) > From: Dan Larsson > To: FreeBSD Stable List > Subject: mod_perl-1.25 syntax error on FreeBSD-4.3 RC > Organization: Tyfon Svenska AB > X-NCC-NIC: DL1999-RIPE > X-NCC-RegID: se.tyfon > X-Virus-Scanned: by hq1.tyfon.net > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Precedence: bulk >=20 > I cannot get mod_perl to work, this is what I get when I try to start > apache after installing mod_perl (from the ports tree): >=20 > #/usr/local/sbin/apachectl start > Syntax error on line 245 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: \ > Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libperl.so into server: > /usr/local/libexec/apache/libperl.so: Undefined symbol \ > "pthread_getspecific" >=20 > Line 245: > LoadModule perl_module libexec/apache/libperl.so >=20 > Any ideas? >=20 >=20 > Regards > +------ > Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 > Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 > GPG and PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --=20 Sean Chittenden --dkEUBIird37B8yKS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Sean Chittenden iEYEARECAAYFAjrI4UwACgkQn09c7x7d+q244QCbBhifLYYs3m0VzSBSzLvUz5dd t/UAn38aD38tT4jhwJfM3fZ2G6Cupcpf =4tEi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dkEUBIird37B8yKS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 14: 0:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from coredump.panthar.org (panthar.org [209.187.117.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BA437B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from panthar@cyberservices.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=cyberservices.com ident=panthar) by coredump.panthar.org with esmtp (Exim 3.21 #1) id 14kBQq-0001zn-00 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 17:00:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3AC8E85B.1A95049B@cyberservices.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 17:00:12 -0400 From: "Robert A. Holak" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: SUBSCRIBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SUBSCRIBE -- Robert Holak | Q: What do you call a fish without an eye? A: panthar@code-energy.com | A fsh. http://panthar.org | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 14: 1:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kristen.shadowdale.net (omah6400gw2poolA1.omah.uswest.net [63.227.156.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A5FE537B719 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:01:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hey9811@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 5924 invoked by uid 1998); 2 Apr 2001 21:01:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Apr 2001 21:01:43 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:01:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Virtual Bob To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE list Subject: Re: Network performance question In-Reply-To: <009901c0bad3$3e708080$931576d8@inethouston.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > This is why 3com and intel cards are more expensive, I would try an intel > 10/100, I hear its got very good support. So what's exactly different about these cards? I never figured it out. They're priced around $60 to $90 each vs. no-name ones for $10 to $20. I sure like to know if there's any good reason to buy those... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 14: 8:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E87A37B724 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:08:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 14kBZ7-00065B-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 17:08:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:08:45 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: FreeBSD-STABLE list Subject: Re: Network performance question Message-ID: <20010402170845.R14027@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-STABLE list References: <009901c0bad3$3e708080$931576d8@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from hey9811@yahoo.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 04:01:43PM -0500 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Virtual Bob probably said: > So what's exactly different about these cards? I never figured it out. > They're priced around $60 to $90 each vs. no-name ones for $10 to $20. I > sure like to know if there's any good reason to buy those... I used to use whatever cards I had to hand or were cheaper. I had hassles, incompatabilities, weird behavior. Some people do fine on cheap cards, but particularly when the net gets very busy I find that decent cards handle it better. I've wasted a lot of time debugging stupid problems that ended up being cheap network cards or bad support for network cards. My time is worth more than the cost of a decent network card. My card of choice is the intel pro100[b], which I pick up used for a massive $12 these days. I and others who I've recommended to them have bought intel cards from http://www.pc-pitstop.com/ and been happy customers. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 14:18: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from matt.MUNICH.v-net.org (u57n248.syd.eastlink.ca [24.222.57.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E873637B718; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:17:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@researcher.com) Received: from researcher.com (Windozzze [192.168.8.2]) by matt.MUNICH.v-net.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA61398; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:17:34 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from matt@researcher.com) Message-ID: <3AC8EC8D.2090701@researcher.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:18:06 -0300 From: Matt Rudderham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IBM PC Server 704 ... dual pentium pro ... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You may have more success asking this on -questions or directly to Greg Lehey, who I believe is the author of Vinum. I believe he usually follows the questions list, and is always very helpful with vinum questions. - Matt The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Anyone have any experiences iwth one of these? we've had it here, running > Dual with Solaris/x86, for the past two years. They upgraded the machine, > and plan on using this one for a database server for one of their > projects, so we installed FreeBSD 4.3-RC onto it ... but it appears to > 'hang' periodically ... > > funny thing is that dmesg and /var/run/dmesg.boot show pretty much > 'garbage': > > aittdb# dmesg > num/raid: > fxp0: port 0xff00-0xff3f mem 0xfe900000-0xfe9fffff,0xfeaff000-0xfeafffff irq 2 at device 11.0 on pci0 > fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:bb:8c:63 > aittdb# cat /var/run/dmesg.boot > OWNER=root MODE=100644 > aittdb# > > /var/log/messages shows from a few days ago shows, if anything stands out > in here? > > Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 4.3-RC #1: Fri Mar 30 15:04:03 AST 2001 > root@demeter.acadiau.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/aittdb > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CPU: Pentium Pro (198.95-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping = 9 > Features=0xfbff > real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) > avail memory = 519921664 (507736K bytes) > APIC_IO: MP table broken: 8259->APIC entry missing! > Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #0 > IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 > Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #1 > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard > cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 > cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfec08000 > io0 (APIC): apic id: 14, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec00000 > io1 (APIC): apic id: 13, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec01000 > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02d4000. > Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > pcib0: on motherboard > IOAPIC #1 intpin 0 -> irq 2 > pci0: on pcib0 > pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1229) at 11.0 irq 2 > isab0: at device 14.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > chip0: <> mem 0xfffffc00-0xffffffff,0xfffffc00-0xffffffff,0xfffffc00-0xffffffff,0xfffffc00-0xffffffff,0xfffffc00-0xffffffff,0xfec01000-0xfec013ff at device 15.0 on pci0 > chip1: at device 20.0 on pci0 > pcib1: on motherboard > IOAPIC #1 intpin 12 -> irq 16 > IOAPIC #1 intpin 13 -> irq 17 > pci1: on pcib1 > ahc0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xfe1ff000-0xfe1fffff irq 16 at device 11.0 on pci1 > ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings > aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs > ahc1: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfe1fe000-0xfe1fefff irq 17 at device 12.0 on pci1 > ahc1: Using left over BIOS settings > aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 > ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 > psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 > sio0: type 16550A > sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 > sio1: type 16550A > APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery > APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > acd0: CDROM at ata0-master using BIOSPIO > Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > pass0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 > pass0: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device > pass0: 3.300MB/s transfers > pass4 at ahc1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 > pass4: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device > pass4: 3.300MB/s transfers > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a > da4 at ahc1 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 > da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da4: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da4: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da0: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) > da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da1: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) > da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 10 lun 0 > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da2: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da2: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) > da3 at ahc1 bus 0 target 8 lun 0 > da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da3: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da3: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) > da5 at ahc1 bus 0 target 10 lun 0 > da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da5: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da5: 4303MB (8813870 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4303C) > fxp0: port 0xff00-0xff3f mem 0xfe900000-0xfe9fffff,0xfeaff000-0xfeafffff irq 2 at device 11.0 on pci0 > fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:bb:8c:63 > > the kernel compile was on: > > aittdb# uname -a > FreeBSD aittdb.acadiau.ca 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #1: Fri Mar 30 15:04:03 AST 2001 root@demeter.acadiau.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/aittdb i386 > > and we're using vinum, in the following configuration, to give us a RAID5 array: > > aittdb# cat /root/vinum.cfg > drive d1 device /dev/da1s1a > drive d2 device /dev/da4s1a > drive d3 device /dev/da2s1a > drive d4 device /dev/da5s1a > volume raid > plex org raid5 479k > sd size 0 drive d1 > sd size 0 drive d2 > sd size 0 drive d3 > sd size 0 drive d4 > > the last 'hang' happened when we tried to install jdk12-beta ... I'd say > its whenever there is heavy disk I/O, but when it first started happened, > and we'd run top, all the numbers came in pretty much as zero ... > > thoughts as to where to look? known problems with these machiens? > > Thanks ... > > > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 14:21: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl [193.78.88.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB6337B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:21:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from driehuis@playbeing.org) Received: from bh2.nl.compuware.com (unknown [172.16.17.82]) by bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27558294; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:20:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from trashcan.nl.compuware.com ([172.16.16.52]) by bh2.nl.compuware.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 21272RMF; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:20:59 +0200 Received: from c1111.nl.compuware.com (c1111.nl.compuware.com [172.16.16.36]) by trashcan.nl.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55624145A4; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:20:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:20:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Bert Driehuis X-Sender: bertd@c1111.nl.compuware.com To: Virtual Bob Cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." , FreeBSD-STABLE list Subject: Re: Network performance question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Virtual Bob wrote: > > This is why 3com and intel cards are more expensive, I would try an intel > > 10/100, I hear its got very good support. > > So what's exactly different about these cards? I never figured it out. > They're priced around $60 to $90 each vs. no-name ones for $10 to $20. I > sure like to know if there's any good reason to buy those... The more expensive ones receive more attention from engineering and from marketing. The latter is wasted money, the first is not. For example, the really cheap ones are based on the Realtek chipset. It looks good on paper, even the specs unless you read them with a mind towards actually implementing a driver. The Realtek chipset is so bad that the chip would probably have been faster if they used polled I/O rather than DMA to receive packets. The expensive ones differ in how many hardware bugs are in them (they're unavoidable, so they really only differ in how many are found during engineering vs after shipping). Cheers, -- Bert -- Bert Driehuis -- driehuis@playbeing.org -- +31-20-3116119 If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 14:32:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFB637B71D; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA23295; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f32LWKA24367; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200104022132.f32LWKA24367@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/19/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Nik Clayton , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT In-Reply-To: <20010402160824.A11308@peitho.fxp.org> References: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <200104021922.f32JM6d19576@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010402152605.B94099@peitho.fxp.org> <200104022005.f32K5iL20120@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010402160824.A11308@peitho.fxp.org> Comments: In-reply-to Chris Faulhaber message dated "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:08:24 -0400." From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1108135136P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:32:20 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_1108135136P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just for the record: > > In the context of these instructions, ~ftp is a (presumed write-only) s/write-only/read-only/ > > CDROM drive, not on the machine where you're trying to install FreeBSD, > > but on another machine somewhere else on the network. Is it possible > > you have this confused with the anonymous FTP service that can be > > established via sysinstall? Sigh. Need more caffeine. Bruce. --==_Exmh_1108135136P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE6yO/k2MoxcVugUsMRAsw1AJ0bLgZsJjYFFOkfUr1yMDC10qIeRwCcCF39 uSCn/kUUlNonEK4PCWOUiWM= =ey7A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1108135136P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 14:34:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from carmel.diva.nl (carmel.diva.nl [195.86.140.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9259E37B719 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boland@carmel.diva.nl) Received: from localhost (boland@localhost) by carmel.diva.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f32LY4a13937 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:34:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:34:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Michiel Boland To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: crypto sources Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. This is perhaps a really stupid question, but why are the crypto sources in the crypto/ directory on the release cd, rather than in the src/ directory. (Ergo cd /cdrom/src ; sh install.sh all does not install all the sources.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 14:38:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3493C37B724 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:38:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f32LbtU04667; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:37:56 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "Jan L. Peterson" Cc: "FreeBSD" Subject: RE: Need help please. 4.3-RC and EasIO-4 board. Can't 'mkdevnods' Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:40:41 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <200104021310.f32DA3K18000@aurora.corp.flipdog.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jan, Thanks. Most illuminating. It gives me something to work with. I'm going to 'integrate' the mknod bits into /dev/MAKEDEV to start with. That's fairly straight forward. I have one of the older ISA IO-4 cards, and it compiled into the kernel and is recoginsed ok, although dmesg advises it is using oloder shims. Still, it appears to work. So the next step is to get the dev's working and try it out. Someone else who replied to me said they would be happy to get fixes integrated inmto the tree - hopefully they will see your post as well. I gather your fix solves the SC26198 chipset for the new PCI boards problem mentioned? and the mkdevnods script at ftp.stallion.com... thats for FreeSBD? Interesting. Lets see if we can get this Stallion stuff fully integrated into the tree. It's quality hardware, and available worldwide, and very robust. It would be a plus to have it fully integrated I think. regards Robert > Subject: Re: Need help please. 4.3-RC and EasIO-4 board. Can't > 'mkdevnods' > > > Robert, > > Please take a look at kern/22967 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22967 > > a PR I submitted back in November about getting the EasyIO PCI board > working. There is a newer version of the driver than is in the current > kernel available at ftp.stallion.com, but it is only for 3.x... I've > got it working on 4.x, which was the subject of the PR, but no one has > looked at that PR yet to see about integrating it in the kernel (or > even if my mods are acceptable... although they work for me). > > The upshot is that you can get the mkdevnods script from > ftp.stallion.com. > > Hope this helps. > > -jan- > -- > Jan L. Peterson FlipDog.com tel. +1 801 418 7815 > Sr. Systems Admin 3210 N Canyon Rd, Ste 300 fax +1 801 818 0879 > jlp@flipdog.com Provo, UT 84604 http://www.flipdog.com/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 14:49:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFD237B71B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:49:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f32LnXU04720; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:49:33 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "Jan L. Peterson" Cc: "FreeBSD" Subject: RE: Need help please. 4.3-RC and EasIO-4 board. Can't 'mkdevnods' Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:52:19 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <200104021310.f32DA3K18000@aurora.corp.flipdog.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There also appears to be a newer version on stallion. Not much newer, but it helps. :-) Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jan L. Peterson > Sent: Monday, 2 April 2001 11:10 PM > To: Robert > Cc: FreeBSD > Subject: Re: Need help please. 4.3-RC and EasIO-4 board. Can't > 'mkdevnods' > > > Robert, > > Please take a look at kern/22967 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22967 > > a PR I submitted back in November about getting the EasyIO PCI board > working. There is a newer version of the driver than is in the current > kernel available at ftp.stallion.com, but it is only for 3.x... I've > got it working on 4.x, which was the subject of the PR, but no one has > looked at that PR yet to see about integrating it in the kernel (or > even if my mods are acceptable... although they work for me). > > The upshot is that you can get the mkdevnods script from > ftp.stallion.com. > > Hope this helps. > > -jan- > -- > Jan L. Peterson FlipDog.com tel. +1 801 418 7815 > Sr. Systems Admin 3210 N Canyon Rd, Ste 300 fax +1 801 818 0879 > jlp@flipdog.com Provo, UT 84604 http://www.flipdog.com/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 15:20:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23B637B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:20:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) id f32MKMk25639 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:20:22 +0200 (MET DST) >Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f32MAaH05928 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:10:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:10:36 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: problems with remote printing from Win2000 to FreeBSD 4.3RC via lpd Message-ID: <20010403001036.A5501@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RC SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ! smb remote printing wasn't possible (worked before), so I tried to print via lpd to my Unix (print) server. FreeBSD titan.klemm.gtn.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Sat Mar 31 22:48:33 C= EST 2001 root@titan.klemm.gtn.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/TITAN i386 Remote printing didn't work. Ethereal (sniffer) showed an error message, "Malformed from address". /etc/hosts.lpd contains: aklemm.klemm.gtn.com aklemm I found in lpd.c: /* * Check to see if the from host has access to the line printer. */ static void chkhost(f) struct sockaddr *f; { struct addrinfo hints, *res, *r; register FILE *hostf; int first =3D 1; int good =3D 0; char host[NI_MAXHOST], ip[NI_MAXHOST]; char serv[NI_MAXSERV]; int error, addrlen; caddr_t addr; =20 error =3D getnameinfo(f, f->sa_len, NULL, 0, serv, sizeof(serv), NI_NUMERICSERV); if (error || atoi(serv) >=3D IPPORT_RESERVED) fatal(0, "Malformed from address"); =20 /* Need real hostname for temporary filenames */ error =3D getnameinfo(f, f->sa_len, host, sizeof(host), NULL, 0, NI_NAMEREQD); What do you think why remote printing doesn't work ? Any experience ? I have to go to bed now, wanted to print one set of folies for a meeting tomorrow ;-) Well this is delayed now ;-) Andreas /// --=20 Andreas Klemm - Powered by FreeBSD 4.2 SMP Need a magic printfilter today ? -> http://www.apsfilter.org/ --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Weitere Infos: siehe http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6yPjcd3o+lGxvbLoRAsHQAJ4+8qCzTIpXm9hhctUDR9eN0iUTjgCgmwJG YskdThCcoI9FxHKSJ9JGjbg= =Oq/p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 15:50:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freud.psych.uw.edu.pl (freud-tp.psych.uw.edu.pl [195.117.131.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AB337B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:50:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shamrock@psych.uw.edu.pl) Received: from sci.psych.uw.edu.pl (sci.psych.uw.edu.pl [195.117.131.4]) by freud.psych.uw.edu.pl (8.9.2/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA13596 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:23:39 GMT Received: from SCI/SpoolDir by sci.psych.uw.edu.pl (Mercury 1.44); 3 Apr 01 00:46:54 -1 Received: from SpoolDir by SCI (Mercury 1.44); 3 Apr 01 00:46:49 -1 Received: from 10.16.1.4 (212.76.32.13) by sci.psych.uw.edu.pl (Mercury 1.44) with ESMTP; 3 Apr 01 00:46:04 -1 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:48:00 +0200 From: Tymkow Sebastian X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Personal Reply-To: Tymkow Sebastian X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5514639104.20010403004800@psych.uw.edu.pl> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello freebsd-stable, -- Best regards, Tymkow mailto:shamrock@psych.uw.edu.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 16: 8:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snapper.lansters.com (21-155-124-64.dsl.lan2wan.com [64.124.155.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D5337B719; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:08:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) Received: from lucky (lucky.lansters.com [10.1.0.2]) by snapper.lansters.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id f32N8gh17482; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:08:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) From: "Jason T. Luttgens" To: "'Doug Hardie'" , Cc: "'Mike Smith'" , "'David W. Chapman Jr.'" Subject: RE: Network performance question Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:08:14 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c0bbc9$cc97b990$0200010a@lucky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, I've done some re-testing on the suggestions of a few people. I created a known data set of 500000 packets with a data value in each packet that increments by one. This way I can tell what packets are lost, if any. Interestingly enough, the Linux 2.4.3 kernel captured almost all packets. FreeBSD 4.2 and 3.5.1 were off by 1000+. However - I noticed something while testing. Linux 2.4.3 did not access the drive as much as FreeBSD was. I guess Linux is caching the file more or something...who knows. So I re-performed the tests with output going to /dev/null and looking at the tcpdump and interface counters (I know, it's not the best way, but at this point I was thinking it's the disk I/O that's causing the drops/loss). I tried the test under FreeBSD with the NetGear card too - in addition to the 3COM. It's kinda strange, but when using the NetGear card and outputting tcpdump to /dev/null there were no problems, not even many interface errors (where as writing to a file causes the network to go down and tons of interface errors about halfway through the capture). When outputting tcpdump to /dev/null, performance was comparable +- 5 packets each time between Linux 2.4.3 and FreeBSD. Sometimes FreeBSD got a couple more, sometimes Linux 2.4.3 did. It would seem I need to perform a sustained load test...like spew packets for a day and then compare. Maybe that's what I'll do next. Anyone know what might be going on here? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 16:16:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B22237B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (msmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f32NFO702856; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:15:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200104022315.f32NFO702856@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Jason T. Luttgens" Cc: "'Doug Hardie'" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "'David W. Chapman Jr.'" Subject: Re: Network performance question In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:08:14 EDT." <000001c0bbc9$cc97b990$0200010a@lucky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:15:23 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ok, I've done some re-testing on the suggestions of a few people. I created > a known data set of 500000 packets with a data value in each packet that > increments by one. This way I can tell what packets are lost, if any. > > Interestingly enough, the Linux 2.4.3 kernel captured almost all packets. > FreeBSD 4.2 and 3.5.1 were off by 1000+. > > However - I noticed something while testing. Linux 2.4.3 did not access the > drive as much as FreeBSD was. I guess Linux is caching the file more or > something...who knows. So I re-performed the tests with output going to > /dev/null and looking at the tcpdump and interface counters (I know, it's > not the best way, but at this point I was thinking it's the disk I/O that's > causing the drops/loss). It's a reasonable assumption; it sounds like you haven't tuned the FreeBSD box very well, so it's doing a lot of disk I/O. > I tried the test under FreeBSD with the NetGear card too - in addition to > the 3COM. It's kinda strange, but when using the NetGear card and outputting > tcpdump to /dev/null there were no problems, not even many interface errors > (where as writing to a file causes the network to go down and tons of > interface errors about halfway through the capture). This sounds like the NetGear card has issues with other PCI bus activity. > It would seem I need to perform a sustained load test...like spew packets > for a day and then compare. Maybe that's what I'll do next. > > Anyone know what might be going on here? Looks like you have PCI-domain issues. Possibly you need to tweak the latency timer, it's also possible that your disk controller is misbehaving (you don't say what you're using, so it's hard to guess here). You probably want to talk to Bill Paul and see if the NetGear card needs crutches to deal with busy busses. Regards, Mike -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 16:18:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl [193.78.88.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847AB37B728 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:18:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from driehuis@playbeing.org) Received: from bh2.nl.compuware.com (unknown [172.16.17.82]) by bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568AE828A; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:18:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from trashcan.nl.compuware.com ([172.16.16.52]) by bh2.nl.compuware.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 21272RYD; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:18:43 +0200 Received: from c1111.nl.compuware.com (c1111.nl.compuware.com [172.16.16.36]) by trashcan.nl.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7C2145A4; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:18:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:18:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Bert Driehuis X-Sender: bertd@c1111.nl.compuware.com To: "Jason T. Luttgens" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Network performance question In-Reply-To: <000001c0bbc9$cc97b990$0200010a@lucky> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Jason T. Luttgens wrote: > However - I noticed something while testing. Linux 2.4.3 did not access the > drive as much as FreeBSD was. I guess Linux is caching the file more or > something...who knows. So I re-performed the tests with output going to > /dev/null and looking at the tcpdump and interface counters (I know, it's > not the best way, but at this point I was thinking it's the disk I/O that's > causing the drops/loss). You could try enabling softupdates if you haven't done so yet. For benchmarking purposes, you could also try async mount (but note that async can screw up your disk real bad in case of a system crash). I would not expect either to have much effect if the machine is otherwise quiescent, but if you are being hit because of any synchronous activity going on it would be nice if this could be eliminated from the equation. Note that you really are entering a grey area here -- it may well be that the respective kernels have different priorities or strategies that have little to do with Ethernet performance, e.g. FreeBSD's insistence (by default) that file systems remain consistent in case of a system crash might cause some packets to be lost in this flat out. worst case scenario. It is unlikely that you will prove what happens unless you stumble upon something that eliminates the difference. Cheers, -- Bert -- Bert Driehuis -- driehuis@playbeing.org -- +31-20-3116119 If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 16:50:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from arg1.demon.co.uk (arg1.demon.co.uk [194.222.34.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E94637B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arg@arg1.demon.co.uk) Received: by arg1.demon.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 300) id 84F599B14; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:50:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arg1.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D21B5D12; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:50:19 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:50:19 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Gordon X-Sender: arg@server.arg.sj.co.uk To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3-RC processes stuck sleeping on "inode" (?vinum) problem update In-Reply-To: <20010402182909.A75576@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: > plex->lockwaits++; /* waited one more time */ > - tsleep(lock, PRIBIO, "vrlock", 0); > - lock = plex->lock; /* start again */ > + tsleep(lock, PRIBIO, "vrlock", hz); > + lock = &plex->lock [-1]; /* start again */ > foundlocks = 0; > pos = NULL; OK, this seems to work - it's now been up 12 hours. Observing that it had failed during the daily level-1 dumps on each previous occasion when I had been running 4.3-RC, I ran a level 0 dump to /dev/null by way of a stress test. This ran to completion (taking 5hrs12min); while running, I noticed that there was nearly always one (sometimes two) of the dump processes sleeping on "vrlock". I haven't watched it this closely before to know if this is normal, or indicates that the new hz-duration sleep is kicking in frequently. Unfortunately, I don't have an accurate benchmark to tell if performance is affected; a normal level 0 dump (across the network to another machine) takes about 7 hours, but that's limited by the performance of the gzip process running at the other end - so 5 hours for dumping to /dev/null is on the slow side but plausible. Tonight's level 1 dump took 20 minutes compared to yesterday's 10 minutes, despite producing only half the amount of (compressed) output, but that may be a fluke. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 17:22:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049BF37B726; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:22:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from TARMAP.schulte.org (tarmap.schulte.org [209.134.156.198]) by poontang.schulte.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21428; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:22:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Message-Id: <5.1.0.12.0.20010402191921.00aa3708@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.0.12 (Beta) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:22:16 -0500 To: Ruslan Ermilov From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: installworld fails: gnu/usr.bin/groff/devascii Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010402093928.A17079@sunbay.com> References: <5.1.0.12.0.20010401052532.02da9868@pop.schulte.org> <5.1.0.12.0.20010401052532.02da9868@pop.schulte.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:39 AM 4/2/2001 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >Something is broken on your side. What is shown above should have >been done as part of `buildworld', not as part of `installworld'. Thanks for the tip. I rm'd /usr/src and did a new cvsup. build and installworld then worked fine, as usual. In retrospect, I suspect that my original cvsup was interrupted once or twice, thus perhaps leaving around some half working sources. Thanks, >Cheers, >-- >Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, >ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, >ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, >+380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine > >http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve >http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age -- Christopher Schulte Finger for PGP key, or for UNIX impaired: http://noc.schulte.org/cgi-bin/noc/finger.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 17:35:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gnu.in-berlin.de (gnu.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F2B37B71F for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:35:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from balu@dva.in-berlin.de) Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (root@hirsch.colt.in-berlin.de [213.61.118.6]) by gnu.in-berlin.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f330Z2e01918 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:35:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from balu@dva.in-berlin.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.11.1/8.11.1/Debian 8.11.0-6) with UUCP id f330Z1Y25556 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:35:01 +0200 X-Envelope-From: balu@dva.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by dva.in-berlin.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 0EFB64013; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:34:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:34:13 +0200 From: Boris Staeblow To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: FUJITSU MPG3409AT didn't work reliable in 4.3-RC! Message-ID: <20010403023412.A54627@dva.in-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I can't get my system working stable _until_ I define ATA_ENABLE_WC in my kernel-config! I get this message _many_ times when I write to my Fujitsu 40GB-Harddisk: /kernel: ata3: resetting devices .. done /kernel: ad6: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting There are not only those annoying messages but also there are very long access delays (5-10 secs!). During these delays the disk-access LED stays red and there is absolutely no response from the _entire_ disk I/O-system. Turning off WC by default may break the stability of some harddrives! Anyone out there who can verify that with a FUJITSU "MPG3409AT E"? IMO this behavior should be clarified before 4.3-Release! Boris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 18:24:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-us4.philips.com (gw-us4.philips.com [63.114.235.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D26B37B729 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from founder.fang@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us4.philips.com with ESMTP id UAA27872 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:24:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from founder.fang@philips.com) From: founder.fang@philips.com Received: from smtprelay-asp1.philips.com(130.147.65.5) by gw-us4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma027864; Mon, 2 Apr 01 20:24:40 -0500 Received: from APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (aplms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.147.79.213]) by smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id JAA27964 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:24:32 +0800 (HKT) Received: by APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via APAC id 0056920010403302; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:24:34 +0800 To: Subject: how to make my sound card work Message-ID: <0056920010403302000002L222*@MHS> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:24:34 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 04/03/01 09:26:32" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a YMF719 sound card.it does not work in my 3.4 system.i compiled= a new=20 kernel with snd0 and mpu0 support,then run MAKEDEV snd0,then i reboot m= y system, at booting time,snd0 and mpu0 seemed to be all right,but when i type mi= xer in the command line,it tells me=20 mixer error:SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK:Device not configured. what does this mean?how can i make my sound card work? = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 18:24:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15A0E37B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse_gross@yahoo.com) Received: from dhcp-245.nh.harron.net (HELO jesse1) (63.64.117.245) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2001 01:24:39 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "Jesse Gross" To: "Conrad Sabatier" Cc: Subject: RE: Slow X refresh rate Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:24:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I reinstalled FreeBSD completely for the 10th or so time, each time using different options. I finally got it working with what was basically default configuration for everything. Thanks anyway though. I have another question that you might know the answer to, which I think is a little easier. As I said, I could only get everything to work when I did default configurations for everything. However, I want to use GNOME, not the default window manager that comes with XFree86. I was able to change it using the /stand/sysinstall utility, but I can only run that as root. The problem is the changes only take effect for the currently logged in user. As a result, I have GNOME for root, but not for my unprivileged user. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks Jesse Gross jesse_gross@yahoo.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Conrad Sabatier Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 2:07 PM To: Jesse Gross Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slow X refresh rate On 01-Apr-2001 Jesse Gross wrote: > Hello > > I am running FreeBSD 4.2-Stable, and I am having a problem with the refresh > rate of X. The mouse jumps around and everything takes a very long time for > anything to happen. I saw the kernel patch at > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hardware.html#PSMERR. The symptoms seem the same > and I have a Logitech M-S48 mouse, but I am not running FreeBSD 3.2 Does > anyone know if this is the same problem and I should use the patch, or is it > a different problem. Any help is greatly appreciated. Sounds lke your mouse configuration for X may not be correct. Could you post your XF86Config? -- Conrad Sabatier conrads@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 18:26:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-us4.philips.com (gw-us4.philips.com [63.114.235.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747AD37B71B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:26:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from founder.fang@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us4.philips.com with ESMTP id UAA28659 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:26:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from founder.fang@philips.com) From: founder.fang@philips.com Received: from smtprelay-asp1.philips.com(130.147.65.5) by gw-us4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma028653; Mon, 2 Apr 01 20:26:39 -0500 Received: from APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (aplms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.147.79.213]) by smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id JAA28379 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:26:36 +0800 (HKT) Received: by APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via APAC id 0056920010403359; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:26:38 +0800 To: Subject: whether 4.3RC need 2CD Message-ID: <0056920010403359000002L292*@MHS> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:26:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 04/03/01 09:28:37" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG who can tell me whether i need to download 2CD to install 4.3 RC? = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 18:46:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD41F37B722 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:46:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: (qmail 8195 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2001 01:46:29 -0000 Received: from dsl1-160.dynacom.net (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2001 01:46:29 -0000 Message-ID: <3AC92B74.1BF77B2A@urx.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:46:28 -0700 From: Kent Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: founder.fang@philips.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: whether 4.3RC need 2CD References: <0056920010403359000002L292*@MHS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG founder.fang@philips.com wrote: > > who can tell me whether i need to download 2CD to install 4.3 RC? In the releases section ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/, there are an iso's for each cpu type. There is only one 4.3-rc cd in releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES. It is called 4.3rc2-install.iso. You will find your sound card probably works on it as a "device pcm". See chapter 14 in the Handbook for details. Kent > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 18:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A3F37B727 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f331nsV44321 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:49:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just noticed that xconsole no longer works under 4.3-RC from March 24. The window appears but contains only "Couldn't open console". I am in group wheel and /dev/console looks like this: crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 0 Apr 2 18:46 /dev/console I have "options UCONSOLE" in my kernel, for whatever that's worth. Running it under ktrace doesn't shed any light on the problem. Is anybody else experiencing this? I might have fouled up my mergemaster run, but if so I don't know how. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 18:53:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D15D037B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:53:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: (qmail 8807 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2001 01:53:11 -0000 Received: from dsl1-160.dynacom.net (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2001 01:53:11 -0000 Message-ID: <3AC92D06.7DA24901@urx.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:53:10 -0700 From: Kent Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Staeblow Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FUJITSU MPG3409AT didn't work reliable in 4.3-RC! References: <20010403023412.A54627@dva.in-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Boris Staeblow wrote: > > Hello, > > I can't get my system working stable _until_ I define > ATA_ENABLE_WC in my kernel-config! > > I get this message _many_ times when I write to my Fujitsu 40GB-Harddisk: > > /kernel: ata3: resetting devices .. done > /kernel: ad6: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting > > There are not only those annoying messages but also there are very long > access delays (5-10 secs!). During these delays the disk-access LED > stays red and there is absolutely no response from the > _entire_ disk I/O-system. > > Turning off WC by default may break the stability of > some harddrives! > > Anyone out there who can verify that with a FUJITSU "MPG3409AT E"? > > IMO this behavior should be clarified before 4.3-Release! Other than your drive doesn't appear to support it, do you have softupdates turned on? Write caching and softupdates are not compatible from what I followed on -hackers during the development. Kent > > Boris > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 19: 7: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns0.rodfbs.net (dns0.rodfbs.net [210.230.183.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F71437B71B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:06:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp) Received: from v6gw1.rodfbs.net (v6gw1.rodfbs.net [3ffe:505:2014:2:2a0:c9ff:fe97:e164]) by dns0.rodfbs.net (8.11.3+3.4W/3.7Wpl2+smtpcheck-local-2.34(ayamura)-rodfbs-3.0-00112802) with ESMTP id f3326Yh30240; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:06:34 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by v6gw1.rodfbs.net (8.11.3+3.4W/3.7Wpl2+smtpcheck-local-2.34(ayamura)-rodfbs-3.0-00112801) with ESMTP id f3326YY17986; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:06:34 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp) To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: jdp@polstra.com Subject: Re: xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC? From: Eriya Akasaka In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on XEmacs 21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) X-PGP-Fingerprint20: D50A 84E7 E8F9 CAD8 FB79 B7ED 16FA 763A 1CCA B257 X-PGP-Public-Key-URL: http://pgp.nic.ad.jp:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x1CCAB257 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20010403110633I.eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:06:33 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 31 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG /etc/fbtab ? >>>>> In article , On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:49:54 -0700 (PDT) "xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC?" John Polstra wrotes: jdp> I've just noticed that xconsole no longer works under 4.3-RC from jdp> March 24. The window appears but contains only "Couldn't open jdp> console". I am in group wheel and /dev/console looks like this: jdp> = jdp> crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 0 Apr 2 18:46 /dev/console jdp> = jdp> I have "options UCONSOLE" in my kernel, for whatever that's worth. jdp> Running it under ktrace doesn't shed any light on the problem. jdp> = jdp> Is anybody else experiencing this? I might have fouled up my jdp> mergemaster run, but if so I don't know how. jdp> = jdp> John jdp> -- jdp> John Polstra jdp@po= lstra.com jdp> John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washi= ngton USA jdp> "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Ch=F6g= yam Trungpa= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 19: 7:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.jump.net (mail11.jump.net [206.196.91.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4905537B71A for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:07:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spiny_norman@jump.net) Received: from dinsdale.piranhabrothers.org (jump-x2-1009.jumpnet.com [207.8.67.9]) by mail11.jump.net (8.10.2/) with SMTP id f3327cM25926 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:07:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Thomas Harris To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question re make release Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:05:29 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040221074100.11728@dinsdale.piranhabrothers.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm looking for the best way to go about building a release/snapshot without having to have the entire CVS repository on hand as seems to be required for make release. All advisements welcomed. I have searched the mail list archive and found no clear answer. Thanks, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 19: 9: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB4237B71C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:09:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id TAA08479; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:08:57 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda08476; Mon Apr 2 19:08:47 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f3328g468268; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpda68265; Mon Apr 2 19:08:04 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f33284x38867; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104030208.f33284x38867@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdN38844; Mon Apr 2 19:07:56 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: John Polstra Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:49:54 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:07:56 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , John Polstra writes: > I've just noticed that xconsole no longer works under 4.3-RC from > March 24. The window appears but contains only "Couldn't open > console". I am in group wheel and /dev/console looks like this: > = > crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 0 Apr 2 18:46 /dev/console > = > I have "options UCONSOLE" in my kernel, for whatever that's worth. > Running it under ktrace doesn't shed any light on the problem. > = > Is anybody else experiencing this? I might have fouled up my > mergemaster run, but if so I don't know how. Do you use xdm or xinit? If you use xdm take a look at your = GiveConsole and TakeConsole scripts in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm. = GiveConsole should contain: chown root /dev/console TakeConsole should contain: chmod 622 /dev/console chown root /dev/console Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 19:13:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B3237B720 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (msmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f332DL704601; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:13:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200104030213.f332DL704601@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Thomas Harris Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question re make release In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 21:05:29 CDT." <01040221074100.11728@dinsdale.piranhabrothers.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:13:20 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm looking for the best way to go about building a > release/snapshot without having to have the entire > CVS repository on hand as seems to be required for > make release. All advisements welcomed. I have > searched the mail list archive and found no clear > answer. The effort involved in doing this is substantially greater than the effort involved in having a local CVS repository. Unless you're a complete masochist, that's the only way to do it. 8) -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 19:17:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F319B37B728 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 14kGNv-0004Xa-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:17:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:17:30 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC? Message-ID: <20010402221730.B15104@pir.net> Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200104030208.f33284x38867@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104030208.f33284x38867@cwsys.cwsent.com>; from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 07:07:56PM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group probably said: > GiveConsole should contain: > chown root /dev/console Errrm, are you sure that's what you meant ? xconsole checks if /dev/console belongs to to the user running it, last I checked, so you need; chown $USER /dev/console > TakeConsole should contain: > > chmod 622 /dev/console > chown root /dev/console P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 19:23: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB6F37B72E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from dendennis.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.2] helo=dendennis) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14kGS2-0002vL-00; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:21:46 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group" , "John Polstra" Cc: Subject: RE: xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:21:42 +1200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200104030208.f33284x38867@cwsys.cwsent.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: GiveConsole should contain: :: :: chown root /dev/console On our 4.2-STABLE machines, I see: chown $USER /dev/console instead in GiveConsole. -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 19:24:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-us4.philips.com (gw-us4.philips.com [63.114.235.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF8C37B726 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:24:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from founder.fang@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us4.philips.com with ESMTP id VAA24148; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:24:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from founder.fang@philips.com) From: founder.fang@philips.com Received: from smtprelay-asp1.philips.com(130.147.65.5) by gw-us4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma024145; Mon, 2 Apr 01 21:24:20 -0500 Received: from APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (aplms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.147.79.213]) by smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id KAA09863; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:24:17 +0800 (HKT) Received: by APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via APAC id 0056920010405327; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:24:19 +0800 To: , Subject: Re: how to make my sound card work Message-ID: <0056920010405327000002L272*@MHS> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:24:19 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 04/03/01 10:26:27" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i am a newbie to freebsd.i think it is more difficult to configure my s= ound card in freebsd than configure it in linux.maybe this is a reason why freebsd is more f= it for server.:) nobody need to listen music on a server,isn't it? i will read chapter 14 in the Handbook carefully. thanks founder.fang@philips.com wrote: > > who can tell me whether i need to download 2CD to install 4.3 RC? In the releases section ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/, there are a= n iso's for each cpu type. There is only one 4.3-rc cd in releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES. It is called 4.3rc2-install.iso. You will find your sound card probably works on it as a "device pcm". See chapter 14 in the Handbook for details. Kent = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 19:27:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED3C37B71F for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:27:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id TAA08563 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:27:17 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda08561; Mon Apr 2 19:27:00 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f332Qt168426 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpde68420; Mon Apr 2 19:26:09 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f332Q5K41000 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104030226.f332Q5K41000@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdo40950; Mon Apr 2 19:25:34 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:17:30 EDT." <20010402221730.B15104@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:25:34 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010402221730.B15104@pir.net>, Peter Radcliffe writes: > Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group probably > said: > > GiveConsole should contain: > > chown root /dev/console > > Errrm, are you sure that's what you meant ? > > xconsole checks if /dev/console belongs to to the user running it, > last I checked, so you need; > > chown $USER /dev/console You are correct. My machines at work are configured as in your example. One of my machines at home is misconfigured. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 19:33:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7F6C37B722 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:33:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: (qmail 12635 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2001 02:33:43 -0000 Received: from dsl1-160.dynacom.net (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2001 02:33:43 -0000 Message-ID: <3AC93686.58303521@urx.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:33:42 -0700 From: Kent Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: founder.fang@philips.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to make my sound card work References: <0056920010405327000002L272*@MHS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG founder.fang@philips.com wrote: > > i am a newbie to freebsd.i think it is more difficult to configure my sound card in freebsd > than configure it in linux.maybe this is a reason why freebsd is more fit for server.:) > nobody need to listen music on a server,isn't it? > i will read chapter 14 in the Handbook carefully. > thanks I have sound on all but my P-200. I have one that I had to add the sbc device but the rest all worked with nothing more than "device pcm". Sound is much easier on 4.x because it is consistent there. You have to worry about pcm0 or pcm1 on 3.x. When you get the kernel made, installed, and reboot. The device shows up in dmesg. You make a device for /dev/snd? where the "? is the digit on the end of your pcm? device from your boot. I had to do a ./MAKEDEV snd0. When I finished I had sound. Kent > > founder.fang@philips.com wrote: > > > > who can tell me whether i need to download 2CD to install 4.3 RC? > > In the releases section ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/, there are an > iso's for each cpu type. There is only one 4.3-rc cd in > releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES. It is called 4.3rc2-install.iso. > > You will find your sound card probably works on it as a "device pcm". > See chapter 14 in the Handbook for details. > > Kent > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 19:49:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns0.rodfbs.net (dns0.rodfbs.net [210.230.183.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E847F37B722 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:49:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp) Received: from v6gw1.rodfbs.net (v6gw1.rodfbs.net [3ffe:8087:ffff:2:2a0:c9ff:fe97:e164]) by dns0.rodfbs.net (8.11.3+3.4W/3.7Wpl2+smtpcheck-local-2.34(ayamura)-rodfbs-3.0-00112802) with ESMTP id f332neh31942; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:49:40 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by v6gw1.rodfbs.net (8.11.3+3.4W/3.7Wpl2+smtpcheck-local-2.34(ayamura)-rodfbs-3.0-00112801) with ESMTP id f332neY19558; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:49:40 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp) To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: jdp@polstra.com Subject: Re: xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC? From: Eriya Akasaka In-Reply-To: <20010403110633I.eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp> References: <20010403110633I.eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.2 on XEmacs 21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) X-PGP-Fingerprint20: D50A 84E7 E8F9 CAD8 FB79 B7ED 16FA 763A 1CCA B257 X-PGP-Public-Key-URL: http://pgp.nic.ad.jp:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x1CCAB257 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010403114940M.eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:49:40 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 52 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> In article <20010403110633I.eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp>, On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:06:33 +0900 "Re: xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC?" $B$K$F(B Eriya Akasaka $B$5$s$O6D$j$^$7$?(B: > /etc/fbtab ? Sorry. I've 4.3-RC builedd Apr 1. And xconsole worked fine. My /etc/fbtab and /dev/console is followings. /dev/ttyv0 0600 /dev/console /dev/ttyv1 0600 /dev/console /dev/ttyv2 0600 /dev/console /dev/ttyv3 0600 /dev/console /dev/ttyv4 0600 /dev/console /dev/ttyv5 0600 /dev/console /dev/ttyv6 0600 /dev/console /dev/ttyv7 0600 /dev/console In X is down. crw------- 1 root wheel 0, 0 4/ 3 10:52 /dev/console In X is up. crw------- 1 eakasaka eakasaka 0, 0 4/ 3 09:06 /dev/console --Eriya Akasaka >>>>> In article , On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:49:54 -0700 (PDT) "xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC?" John Polstra wrotes: jdp> March 24. The window appears but contains only "Couldn't open jdp> console". I am in group wheel and /dev/console looks like this: jdp> jdp> crw-rw---- 1 root wheel 0, 0 Apr 2 18:46 /dev/console jdp> jdp> I have "options UCONSOLE" in my kernel, for whatever that's worth. jdp> Running it under ktrace doesn't shed any light on the problem. jdp> jdp> Is anybody else experiencing this? I might have fouled up my jdp> mergemaster run, but if so I don't know how. jdp> jdp> John jdp> -- jdp> John Polstra jdp@polstra.com jdp> John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA jdp> "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Ch.ANvgyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 20: 3:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from realtime.net (dragon.realtime.net [205.238.128.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA59737B71B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brucegb@realtime.net) Received: from tigerfish2.my.domain ([205.238.153.168]) by realtime.net ; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:00:41 -0600 Received: (from brucegb@localhost) by tigerfish2.my.domain (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f3331g214065; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:01:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brucegb) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:01:42 -0500 From: Bruce Burden To: Jesse Gross , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slow X refresh rate Message-ID: <20010402220142.A14040@tigerfish2.my.domain> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jesse_gross@yahoo.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 09:24:37PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > As I said, I could only get everything to work when I did default > configurations for everything. However, I want to use GNOME, not the default > window manager that comes with XFree86. > You need to run xdm or Xwrapper. I use xdm myself, as the man page for xdm set everything up (except for the path names, they are wrong, you need to change them). Look at the pkg-message file in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4, it will tell you why startx only works as root. > > the changes only take effect for the currently logged in user. As a result, > I have GNOME for root, but not for my unprivileged user. Do you have any > suggestions? > You will need to create a .xsession file for each user, and put that file in their home directory. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 20:22:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from realtime.net (dragon.realtime.net [205.238.128.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8006B37B71F for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brucegb@realtime.net) Received: from tigerfish2.my.domain ([205.238.153.168]) by realtime.net ; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:21:51 -0600 Received: (from brucegb@localhost) by tigerfish2.my.domain (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f333Mua14141; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:22:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brucegb) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:22:56 -0500 From: Bruce Burden To: "Steven D. Smith" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xwrapper - HOW_TO Message-ID: <20010402222256.C14040@tigerfish2.my.domain> References: <200104021919.PAA12973@gate1.health.state.ny.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104021919.PAA12973@gate1.health.state.ny.us>; from sds07@health.state.ny.us on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 03:19:01PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I need to find an Xwrapper How-to... I've successfully installed XFree86 > 4.0.3, KDE 2.1... > I use xdm. The xdm man page contains all of the info you need, with the exception of the path names, they are wroing, and need to be changed. Use your standard .xsession file. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 21:19:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B9C37B71A for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:19:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f334IHV44849; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:18:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f334I9x00353; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:18:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104030418.f334I9x00353@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: eakasaka@rodfbs.org Subject: Re: xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC? In-Reply-To: <20010403110633I.eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp> References: <20010403110633I.eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <20010403110633I.eakasaka@akasaka-rodfbs.omiya.saitama.jp>, Eriya Akasaka wrote: > /etc/fbtab ? > > >>>>> In article , > On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:49:54 -0700 (PDT) > "xconsole broken in recent 4.3-RC?" > John Polstra wrotes: > > jdp> I've just noticed that xconsole no longer works under 4.3-RC from > jdp> March 24. Yep -- thanks, that was it. I must have clobbered it when I ran mergemaster. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 23: 8:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DF737B724 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:08:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p1341.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.170.66]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f3368Sq16921; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:08:28 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:07:57 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "Steven D. Smith" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xwrapper - HOW_TO Message-Id: <20010403080757.10944e57.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: <200104021919.PAA12973@gate1.health.state.ny.us> References: <200104021919.PAA12973@gate1.health.state.ny.us> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.60 (GTK+ 1.2.8; FreeBSD 4.3-RC; i386) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:19:01 -0400 "Steven D. Smith" wrote: SS> When I run Xwrapper as user... I get an blank screen with my mouse cursor.... SS> An help would be appreciated... Now you have Xwrapper installed xinit, startx and friends will work. -- Optimal hardware acceleration for Windows PC (Mac). 9.98 m/s/s applied for (at least) 2s followed by impact with solid object. Optimal software upgrade FreeBSD (OS-X). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 2 23: 9:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465EA37B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:09:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17927 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:08:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010402235945.04a32760@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:08:47 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Subject: Proposed changes to Makefile in /etc/mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26299 I've proposed changes to the Makefile in /etc/mail that I think makes it easier to reconfigure sendmail. Right now, to change sendmail.cf, one edits "freebsd.mc" and rebuild sendmail.cf from it (unless one has changed /etc/make.conf, which many administrators don't know about). Besides being platform-specific, this makes it more difficult to use one's library of .mc files from other systems and adapt one of them to a new system. The change adds 6 lines of code that I've had in my own Makefile for some time. They tell the sytsem that `hostname`.mc -- if it exists -- should be the default .mc file that is processed to make sendmail.cf. (The `hostname`.mc convention is a longstanding one; it's used in the samples in the source tree.) Thus, one can bring in one's collection of existing .mc files, create a new file with the new host name, and carry the expanded collection onward to the next machine one configures. It also makes it easier to describe the process of configuring sendmail to an inexperienced sysadmin. You can say, "Enter the command 'cp freebsd.mc `hostname`.mc' and then edit the file you created." Greg is concerned about bloating the Makefile, but since the change is only 6 lines and it makes life so much more straightforward, I'd like to see it in there. What do folks here think? Should these changes (or something like them) go in the file? --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 0:13: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1105.mail.yahoo.com (web1105.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E438637B719 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:13:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from galen_sampson@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010403071306.25240.qmail@web1105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.5.146.158] by web1105.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:13:06 PDT Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:13:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Galen Sampson Subject: netstat To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I have been experiencing some strange behavior with netstat. It only displays UDP sockets for the inet family. TCP sockets do not show up. I know it is listening on TCP sockets because I can ssh/telnet/ftp/etc to the machine. Netstat has been exhibiting this behavior from a make world 2 weeks ago. After updating my source tree today from cvsup10.freebsd.org and rebuilding the world I am getting the same symptoms. I'd love to put up some debug info for someone to figure this out, but I have know idea what to put. Is this problem just me? pointers/tips welcome Galen Sampson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 0:19: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8068937B720 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA52075; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:18:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06614; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:18:52 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200104030718.RAA06614@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Galen Sampson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netstat In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:13:06 -0700. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 17:18:52 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have been experiencing some strange behavior with netstat. First check: are you sure that your installed userland and running kernel are built from the same set of sources? IE you have built and installed a kernel and rebooted when you last diod a make world? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 0:24:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1101.mail.yahoo.com (web1101.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71E0E37B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:24:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from galen_sampson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 7636 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Apr 2001 07:24:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20010403072413.7635.qmail@web1101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.5.146.158] by web1101.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:24:13 PDT Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Galen Sampson Subject: Re: netstat To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200104030718.RAA06614@lightning.itga.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did that unfortunately...built and installed the new kernel while still in single user mode after I installed the new world. --- Gregory Bond wrote: > > I have been experiencing some strange behavior with netstat. > > First check: are you sure that your installed userland and running kernel are > > built from the same set of sources? IE you have built and installed a kernel > > and rebooted when you last diod a make world? > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 3:12:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A13D37B71B; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 03:12:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f339ps208358; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:51:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:51:54 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Nik Clayton , Jordan K Hubbard , stable@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT Message-ID: <20010403105154.B8254@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <200104021922.f32JM6d19576@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104021922.f32JM6d19576@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:22:06PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:22:06PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Empirical evidence shows that the original ftp passwd line is correct. = =20 > I propose the following patch instead, which deals with the "release=20 > name" issue but should (I think) reflect the realities of anon FTP. > (Picture the same patch for the alpha of course.) >=20 > How's this? If it gets your point across I'll do the relevant commits. You da man. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrJnTkACgkQk6gHZCw343WI3ACfTYQ797RvOAeJKj/lFPqgmXVo gMMAn3F+pVzgvnb++71vWyOKBDnCMPUa =uljL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 3:13:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F17937B71F; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 03:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f339p2G08340; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:51:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:51:01 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Nik Clayton , Jordan K Hubbard , bmah@freebsd.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT Message-ID: <20010403105100.A8254@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010402141918.B56046@rapier.smartspace.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010402141918.B56046@rapier.smartspace.co.za>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 02:19:18PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 02:19:18PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > I don't believe this is correct; I have functioning anonymous FTP with: >=20 > ftp:*:14:5::0:0:Anonymous FTP Admin:/var/ftp:/nonexistent >=20 > Anything involving no password must be wrong, surely? Mea culpa, you're quite right. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrJnQQACgkQk6gHZCw343Xa/QCgg0gVhTPPTZXpWuvFDzN4BIb+ whcAniFms3SCWj/IgpdhTME9S3b/nmgG =XrV4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 3:20:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gnu.in-berlin.de (gnu.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DE137B719 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 03:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from balu@dva.in-berlin.de) Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de (root@hirsch.colt.in-berlin.de [213.61.118.6]) by gnu.in-berlin.de (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f33AK1e08971; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:20:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from balu@dva.in-berlin.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by hirsch.in-berlin.de (8.11.1/8.11.1/Debian 8.11.0-6) with UUCP id f33AK1819498; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:20:01 +0200 X-Envelope-From: balu@dva.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: kstewart@urx.com Received: by dva.in-berlin.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id 32C1E4013; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:18:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:18:17 +0200 From: Boris Staeblow To: Kent Stewart Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FUJITSU MPG3409AT didn't work reliable in 4.3-RC! Message-ID: <20010403121817.A76180@dva.in-berlin.de> References: <20010403023412.A54627@dva.in-berlin.de> <3AC92D06.7DA24901@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AC92D06.7DA24901@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 06:53:10PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 06:53:10PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > Turning off WC by default may break the stability of > > some harddrives! > > > > Anyone out there who can verify that with a FUJITSU "MPG3409AT E"? > > > > IMO this behavior should be clarified before 4.3-Release! > > Other than your drive doesn't appear to support it, do you have > softupdates turned on? Write caching and softupdates are not compatible > from what I followed on -hackers during the development. My described behavior occurs only with WC *disabled*! (Now default in -stable!) Boris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 4: 7:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC4337B718 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 04:07:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id EAA10719; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 04:07:11 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda10717; Tue Apr 3 04:06:58 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f33B6l870839; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 04:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdD70837; Tue Apr 3 04:06:26 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f33B6PA02869; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 04:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104031106.f33B6PA02869@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdQp2050; Tue Apr 3 04:05:32 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Bert Driehuis Cc: "Jason T. Luttgens" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Network performance question In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Apr 2001 01:18:42 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 04:05:31 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Be rt Driehuis writes: > On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Jason T. Luttgens wrote: > > > However - I noticed something while testing. Linux 2.4.3 did not access the > > drive as much as FreeBSD was. I guess Linux is caching the file more or > > something...who knows. So I re-performed the tests with output going to > > /dev/null and looking at the tcpdump and interface counters (I know, it's > > not the best way, but at this point I was thinking it's the disk I/O that's > > causing the drops/loss). > > You could try enabling softupdates if you haven't done so yet. For > benchmarking purposes, you could also try async mount (but note that > async can screw up your disk real bad in case of a system crash). If you want to make all things as equal as possible, you will have to mount async. According to Kirk's paper on Softupdates, Softupdates was about 3% slower than async mounts and a lot faster than SMD mounts. Does anyone on this list have a pointer to the paper so I could reread it? Would it be possible to include it in /usr/share/doc/papers? > > I would not expect either to have much effect if the machine is > otherwise quiescent, but if you are being hit because of any synchronous > activity going on it would be nice if this could be eliminated from the > equation. Depending on how heavy the traffic was at the time you were capturing packets I would think that softupdates or async mounts would have made a big difference. > > Note that you really are entering a grey area here -- it may well be > that the respective kernels have different priorities or strategies that > have little to do with Ethernet performance, e.g. FreeBSD's insistence > (by default) that file systems remain consistent in case of a system > crash might cause some packets to be lost in this flat out. worst case > scenario. It is unlikely that you will prove what happens unless you > stumble upon something that eliminates the difference. Until we have a level playing field, it's a comparison between apples and oranges. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 4:15:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8687E37B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 04:15:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA48576; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:15:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:15:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200104031115.NAA48576@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question re make release In-Reply-To: <200104030213.f332DL704601@mass.dis.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.1-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > I'm looking for the best way to go about building a > > release/snapshot without having to have the entire > > CVS repository on hand as seems to be required for > > make release. All advisements welcomed. I have > > searched the mail list archive and found no clear > > answer. > > The effort involved in doing this is substantially greater than the > effort involved in having a local CVS repository. Unless you're a > complete masochist, that's the only way to do it. 8) Then maybe I'm a complete masochist. :-) But seriously. I'm using a locally modified version of /usr/src/release/Makefile. Basically, I removed all cvs checkout stuff and replaced it with simply copying /usr/src, /usr/ports and /usr/doc. You have to perform a buildword before doing a "make release" anyway, so /usr/src should be up to date, and simply copying it is sufficient. (Having said that -- I _do_ have a local CVS repository, I'm just not using it during a "make release".) Regards Oliver PS: Those who have the "Lehmanns" Edition CDs will find my patched Makefile in /usr/src/release/Makefile.lehmanns. It's also in the 4.3-RC ISOs at ftp7.de.freebsd.org. -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 5:51:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alto.i-cable.com (alto.i-cable.com [210.80.60.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E835E37B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 05:51:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisfung@opendir.org) Received: from opendir.org ([61.18.144.148]) by alto.i-cable.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14575 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:51:28 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <3AC9C738.B7DA640@opendir.org> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 20:51:04 +0800 From: Chris Organization: Chrisland X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: make installworld error code 70 at libcom_err.so.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, ===> lib/libcom_err cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_err.h /usr/include cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_right.h /usr/include install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.a /usr/lib install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.so.2 /usr/lib *** Error code 70 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcom_err. *** Error code 1 in syslog: /kernel.old: pid 1455 (strip), uid 0: exited on signal 4 (core dumped) make buildworld by another machine. /usr/src and /usr/obj are in local directories. /etc/make.conf in 2 machines are identical. When I tried manually "install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.so.2 /usr/lib", there was no error. Any clues? or do you need more information? Thanks very much. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 5:52: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marble.fbcc.com (ns2.fbcc.com [216.54.252.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EBEC37B71D for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 05:52:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Received: (qmail 19801 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2001 13:01:30 -0000 Received: from 216-52-255-8.fbcc.com (HELO bluto.jimking.net) (216.54.255.8) by ns2.fbcc.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 2001 13:01:30 -0000 Received: from marble (marble.lgc.com [134.132.228.4]) by bluto.jimking.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f33Cppj91723; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:51:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Message-ID: <018601c0bc3c$dc9473b0$04e48486@marble> From: "Jim King" To: , "Brett Glass" References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010402235945.04a32760@localhost> Subject: Re: Proposed changes to Makefile in /etc/mail Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:51:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Brett Glass" wrote: > In > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26299 > > I've proposed changes to the Makefile in /etc/mail that I think makes it > easier to reconfigure sendmail. > > Right now, to change sendmail.cf, one edits "freebsd.mc" and rebuild > sendmail.cf from it (unless one has changed /etc/make.conf, which many > administrators don't know about). Besides being platform-specific, this > makes it more difficult to use one's library of .mc files from other > systems and adapt one of them to a new system. > > The change adds 6 lines of code that I've had in my own Makefile for some > time. They tell the sytsem that `hostname`.mc -- if it exists -- should > be the default .mc file that is processed to make sendmail.cf. (The > `hostname`.mc convention is a longstanding one; it's used in the samples > in the source tree.) Thus, one can bring in one's collection of existing > .mc files, create a new file with the new host name, and carry the > expanded collection onward to the next machine one configures. > > It also makes it easier to describe the process of configuring sendmail > to an inexperienced sysadmin. You can say, "Enter the command 'cp > freebsd.mc `hostname`.mc' and then edit the file you created." > > Greg is concerned about bloating the Makefile, but since the change is > only 6 lines and it makes life so much more straightforward, I'd like to > see it in there. What do folks here think? Should these changes (or > something like them) go in the file? This sounds like a useful change. I'm for it. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 6: 4: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.ocn.ne.jp (aurora.ocn.ne.jp [211.6.83.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C2537B722 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:03:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ktg@aurora.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from localhost (p0216-ip01fukuokachu.fukuoka.ocn.ne.jp [211.123.251.216]) by aurora.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id WAA20687; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:03:52 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 22:05:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010403.220546.28813191.ktg@aurora.ocn.ne.jp> To: galen_sampson@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netstat From: Kazu TAKAGI In-Reply-To: <20010403071306.25240.qmail@web1105.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010403071306.25240.qmail@web1105.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: xcite1.40> Mew version 1.95b118 on XEmacs 21.1.12 (Channel Islands) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have been experiencing some strange behavior with netstat. It only > displays UDP sockets for the inet family. TCP sockets do not show up. We experienced the same phenomena on our SMP machine in 4.3-BETA. After updating our source tree, however, on Mar 29, "netstat -a" displays TCP sockets as well. It now works fine, and we stopped examining the reason further. Just FYI. ---- Kazu TAKAGI (ktg@aurora.ocn.ne.jp) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 6:38:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sgi04-e.std.com (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F3037B71C for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:38:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29208979 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16296; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:38:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200104031338.JAA16296@world.std.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Strange localhost NS look attempts Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello -stable: Can someone tell me why I keep getting log-messages like this? It sometimes seems to "break" Netscape (waiting trying to resolve localhost). I'm using a "dummy" hostname of "myname.my.domain." This has been happening for *months* with no (or not much?) ill-effect, but I would like to clean that up if possible & there must be something I'm not quite getting right for config... What is happening here? It appears that I am rejecting a UDP DNS query from "myself." (?) What might/would be a Good & Proper Way To Fix This? Oh, I'm running 4.3-RC as of (cvsupped/built) 1 April 2001. Other information on request I guess... Many thanks, -kc From /var/log/messages: Apr 3 03:23:15 myname /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 10.0.0.1:1516 from 10. 0.0.1:53 Apr 3 03:23:15 myname /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 10.0.0.1:1517 from 10. 0.0.1:53 Apr 3 03:23:15 myname /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 10.0.0.1:1518 from 10. 0.0.1:53 Apr 3 03:23:42 myname /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 10.0.0.1:1519 from 10. 0.0.1:53 Apr 3 03:26:15 myname /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 10.0.0.1:1526 from 10. 0.0.1:53 Apr 3 03:49:45 myname /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 10.0.0.1:1530 from 10. 0.0.1:53 ---------------------------------------- Excerpt from /etc/hosts.allow: # ALL : ALL : allow # Prevent those with no reverse DNS from connecting. ALL : PARANOID : RFC931 20 : deny # Allow anything from localhost. Note that an IP address (not a host # name) *MUST* be specified for portmap(8). ALL : localhost myname myname.my.domain 127.0.0.1 192.168. 10.0.0. : allow # ALL : my.machine.example.com 192.0.2.35 : allow ---------------------------------------- /etc/namedb/named.conf: // Config file for caching only name server options { directory "/etc/namedb"; allow-query { 10/8; localhost; myname; }; # allow-query { 192.168/24; localhost; myname; }; # query-source port 53; }; zone "." in { type hint; file "named.root"; }; zone "my.domain" in { type master; file "db.my.domain"; }; zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" in { type master; file "127.0.0"; }; # zone "0.168.192.in-addr.arpa" in { # type master; # file "192.168.0"; # }; zone "0.0.10.in-addr.arpa" in { type master; file "10.0.0"; }; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 6:44:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [217.27.162.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE43F37B725 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:44:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26551C7BF; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:44:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272511C7B6; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:44:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:44:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Dan Larsson To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts In-Reply-To: <200104031338.JAA16296@world.std.com> Message-ID: <20010403154105.W30910-100000@hq1.tyfon.net> Organization: Tyfon Svenska AB X-NCC-NIC: DL1999-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: se.tyfon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by hq1.tyfon.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: | Hello -stable: | | Can someone tell me why I keep getting log-messages like this? | It sometimes seems to "break" Netscape (waiting trying to | resolve localhost). I'm using a "dummy" hostname of | "myname.my.domain." This has been happening for *months* with | no (or not much?) ill-effect, but I would like to clean that | up if possible & there must be something I'm not quite getting | right for config... What is happening here? It appears that | I am rejecting a UDP DNS query from "myself." (?) What | might/would be a Good & Proper Way To Fix This? | | Oh, I'm running 4.3-RC as of (cvsupped/built) 1 April 2001. | Other information on request I guess... | | Many thanks, As it looks you have turned on LOG_IN_VAIN, check if either of these are set: sysctl net.inet.udp.log_in_vain sysctl net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain and your /etc/rc.conf /etc/defaults/rc.conf for log_in_vain="YES" | Regards +------ Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 GPG and PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 6:56: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sgi04-e.std.com (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E77937B71E for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:55:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29244966; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15831; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:55:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200104031355.JAA15831@world.std.com> To: Dan Larsson Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From dl@tyfon.net Tue Apr 3 09:44:54 2001 >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:44:40 +0200 (CEST) >From: Dan Larsson >To: Kenneth W Cochran >Cc: >Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts > >On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: > >| Hello -stable: >| >| Can someone tell me why I keep getting log-messages like this? >| It sometimes seems to "break" Netscape (waiting trying to >| resolve localhost). I'm using a "dummy" hostname of >| "myname.my.domain." This has been happening for *months* with >| no (or not much?) ill-effect, but I would like to clean that >| up if possible & there must be something I'm not quite getting >| right for config... What is happening here? It appears that >| I am rejecting a UDP DNS query from "myself." (?) What >| might/would be a Good & Proper Way To Fix This? >| >| Oh, I'm running 4.3-RC as of (cvsupped/built) 1 April 2001. >| Other information on request I guess... >| >| Many thanks, > >As it looks you have turned on LOG_IN_VAIN, check if either of these are >set: > > sysctl net.inet.udp.log_in_vain > sysctl net.inet.tcp.log_in_vain > >and your /etc/rc.conf /etc/defaults/rc.conf for > > log_in_vain="YES" Well, yes, of course. :) I do indeed have log_in_vain set, & don't plan to turn that off... :) So, why should that be an invalid connection attempt? Looks to me like localhost should always be allowed to connect to itself... (?) Thanks, -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 6:59:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A1837B71D for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14kRLO-000PQ7-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:59:38 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f33Dxcj11544 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:59:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:59:38 +0100 From: Rasputin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts Message-ID: <20010403145937.A11424@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <200104031338.JAA16296@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200104031338.JAA16296@world.std.com>; from kwc@world.std.com on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:38:20AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Kenneth W Cochran [010403 14:40]: > Hello -stable: > > Can someone tell me why I keep getting log-messages like this? > It sometimes seems to "break" Netscape (waiting trying to > resolve localhost). Put an entry for localhost in /etc/hosts; also if your domain is set to foo.com in /etc/resolv.conf, add an entry for localhost.foo.com just to be safe. > I'm using a "dummy" hostname of > "myname.my.domain." This has been happening for *months* with > no (or not much?) ill-effect, but I would like to clean that > up if possible & there must be something I'm not quite getting > right for config... What is happening here? It appears that > I am rejecting a UDP DNS query from "myself."(?) > Apr 3 03:23:15 myname /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 10.0.0.1:1516 from 10. > 0.0.1:53 > Apr 3 03:23:15 myname /kernel: Connection attempt to UDP 10.0.0.1:1517 from 10. > 0.0.1:53 No, the traffic is coming back *from* your local DNS server to a client program (using unprivileged port 1516...1530) - probably Netscape. It's not an error, it's just a bit verbose. See other posting about LOG_IN_VAIN for a fix. -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 7: 2:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49FE37B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:02:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA11373; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:02:35 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda11370; Tue Apr 3 07:02:28 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f33E2N671557; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdj71551; Tue Apr 3 07:01:35 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f33E1Yq64493; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104031401.f33E1Yq64493@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdf64489; Tue Apr 3 07:01:26 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Chris Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make installworld error code 70 at libcom_err.so.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Apr 2001 20:51:04 +0800." <3AC9C738.B7DA640@opendir.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 07:01:24 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3AC9C738.B7DA640@opendir.org>, Chris writes: > Hi all, > > ===> lib/libcom_err > cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 > /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_err.h /usr/include > cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 > /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_right.h /usr/include > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.a /usr/lib > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.so.2 /usr/lib > *** Error code 70 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcom_err. > *** Error code 1 > > in syslog: > /kernel.old: pid 1455 (strip), uid 0: exited on signal 4 (core dumped) > > make buildworld by another machine. /usr/src and /usr/obj are in local > directories. /etc/make.conf in 2 machines are identical. When I tried > manually "install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.so.2 > /usr/lib", there was no error. > > Any clues? or do you need more information? Looks like you have a hardware problem. CPU, cache, and/or memory. Could be a heat problem or just bad hardware. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 7: 4:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.236.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9788737B718 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:04:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from tully (TULLY.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.132]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f33E43r02326; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:04:03 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: Kenneth W Cochran , Dan Larsson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts Message-ID: <33600000.986306643@tully> In-Reply-To: <200104031355.JAA15831@world.std.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, April 03, 2001 09:55:53 AM -0400, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: +----- | So, why should that be an invalid connection attempt? | Looks to me like localhost should always be allowed to | connect to itself... (?) +--->8 If we ignore the LOG_IN_VAIN red herring, what's really happening here is that you are running a nameserver on localhost which is returning some kind of response after the querant (netscape?) has timed out (and therefore closed its query socket). So the real question is, why is the nameserver timing out? -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 7: 6:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AA337B718 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA11412; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:06:35 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda11409; Tue Apr 3 07:06:30 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f33E6PA71593; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdx71589; Tue Apr 3 07:05:33 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f33E5Xx64538; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104031405.f33E5Xx64538@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdE64526; Tue Apr 3 07:04:46 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Chris Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make installworld error code 70 at libcom_err.so.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Apr 2001 20:51:04 +0800." <3AC9C738.B7DA640@opendir.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 07:04:45 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3AC9C738.B7DA640@opendir.org>, Chris writes: > Hi all, > > ===> lib/libcom_err > cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 > /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_err.h /usr/include > cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 > /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_right.h /usr/include > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.a /usr/lib > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.so.2 /usr/lib > *** Error code 70 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcom_err. > *** Error code 1 > > in syslog: > /kernel.old: pid 1455 (strip), uid 0: exited on signal 4 (core dumped) > > make buildworld by another machine. /usr/src and /usr/obj are in local > directories. /etc/make.conf in 2 machines are identical. When I tried > manually "install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.so.2 > /usr/lib", there was no error. > > Any clues? or do you need more information? Disregard my previous reply, too much endorphin. Did you by chance build this on another machine with a different processor perhaps? Do you by chance have CPUTYPE specified in make.conf on the other machine? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 7: 7:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [217.27.162.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7552337B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:07:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B6B1C7E2; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:07:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFC91C7B6; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:07:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:07:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Dan Larsson To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts In-Reply-To: <200104031355.JAA15831@world.std.com> Message-ID: <20010403160618.X31407-100000@hq1.tyfon.net> Organization: Tyfon Svenska AB X-NCC-NIC: DL1999-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: se.tyfon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by hq1.tyfon.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: | Well, yes, of course. :) I do indeed have log_in_vain set, | & don't plan to turn that off... :) | So, why should that be an invalid connection attempt? | Looks to me like localhost should always be allowed to | connect to itself... (?) It should be, however if nothings listening on the other end it gets logged as 'invalid'. | Regards +------ Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 GPG and PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 7: 9:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sgi04-e.std.com (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC61C37B719 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:09:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29290130; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07072; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:09:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200104031409.KAA07072@world.std.com> To: Rasputin Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200104031355.JAA15831@world.std.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org Tue Apr 3 10:01:36 2001 >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:01:32 +0100 >From: Rasputin >To: Kenneth W Cochran >Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts > >* Kenneth W Cochran [010403 14:57]: >> >From dl@tyfon.net Tue Apr 3 09:44:54 2001 >> >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:44:40 +0200 (CEST) >> >From: Dan Larsson >> >To: Kenneth W Cochran >> >Cc: >> >Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts >> > >> >On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: >> >and your /etc/rc.conf /etc/defaults/rc.conf for >> > >> > log_in_vain="YES" >> >> So, why should that be an invalid connection attempt? > >It's not invalid, you've specifically asked BSd to tell you about >any incoming connections that aren't connecting to a server. Hmmm... Interesting... Perhaps I should find some more FM to RT? :) >You'll probably also see a shedload of connections from port 80 >when you're surding the web. Well, I wouldn't exactly say a "shedload" but yes, I do get them... :) >-- >Rasputin >Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns Thanks! -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 7:14:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sgi04-e.std.com (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB5637B71D for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:14:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29294554; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13159; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:14:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200104031414.KAA13159@world.std.com> To: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From allbery@ece.cmu.edu Tue Apr 3 10:04:20 2001 >Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:04:03 -0400 >From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" >To: Kenneth W Cochran , Dan Larsson >cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts > >On Tuesday, April 03, 2001 09:55:53 AM -0400, Kenneth W Cochran > wrote: >+----- >| So, why should that be an invalid connection attempt? >| Looks to me like localhost should always be allowed to >| connect to itself... (?) >+--->8 > >If we ignore the LOG_IN_VAIN red herring, what's really happening here is Are you saying LOG_IN_VAIN is not such a Good Thing? >that you are running a nameserver on localhost which is returning some kind >of response after the querant (netscape?) has timed out (and therefore Yes, I'll say Netscape. Seems, for example, to work just fine with Lynx (http://localhost in both cases). >closed its query socket). So the real question is, why is the nameserver >timing out? Agreed, I think it has more to do with the nameserver. But maybe Yet Another Netscape Problem? Any idea(s) as to a fix? Or should I Just Live With It? Thanks! -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 7:16:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com [171.71.163.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9381337B71C; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:16:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA17636; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f33EG1O43918; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:16:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200104031416.f33EG1O43918@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/19/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Jordan K Hubbard , stable@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RC2 wrongness in INSTALL.TXT In-Reply-To: <20010403105154.B8254@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200104011920.f31JKMf81076@narf.osd.bsdi.com> <20010402092618.A2841@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <200104021922.f32JM6d19576@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010403105154.B8254@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Comments: In-reply-to Nik Clayton message dated "Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:51:54 +0100." From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_808029712P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 07:16:00 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_808029712P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 12:22:06PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > How's this? If it gets your point across I'll do the relevant commits. > > You da man. OK, committed. Bruce. --==_Exmh_808029712P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE6ydsg2MoxcVugUsMRAkRQAJ9bHytucHFGrrkAYJmZcvGAbLrHiwCfWbAt A5IFSC+2rV2u7DjuJJdFJKw= =/Epw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_808029712P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 7:19:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alto.i-cable.com (alto.i-cable.com [210.80.60.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3496737B722 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisfung@opendir.org) Received: from opendir.org ([61.18.144.148]) by alto.i-cable.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02859 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:19:37 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <3AC9DBE1.116B1507@opendir.org> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 22:19:13 +0800 From: Chris Organization: Chrisland X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make installworld error code 70 at libcom_err.so.2 References: <200104031405.f33E5Xx64538@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > Disregard my previous reply, too much endorphin. > > Did you by chance build this on another machine with a different > processor perhaps? Do you by chance have CPUTYPE specified in > make.conf on the other machine? > Hi, I built world in a faster machine (Machine A) and am trying to install in a slower machine (Machine B). I will try to install it in Machine A if that helps to solve this out. But... seems it is related to "strip" and "kernel", isn't it? I don't have CPUTYPE in make.conf in both machines. Thanks. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 7:27:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.236.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CCE37B71C for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:27:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from tully (TULLY.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.132]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f33EQdr03888; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:26:39 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: Kenneth W Cochran Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts Message-ID: <35830000.986307999@tully> In-Reply-To: <200104031414.KAA13159@world.std.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:14:45 AM -0400, Kenneth W Cochran wrote: +----- | >If we ignore the LOG_IN_VAIN red herring, what's really happening here is | | Are you saying LOG_IN_VAIN is not such a Good Thing? +--->8 No, just that the initial "it's because you have LOG_IN_VAIN turned on" suggested that that was somehow causing the real problem, when in fact it was providing clues about the real problem. (That said, I disabled LOG_IN_VAIN because it's way too chatty; in particular, when I use my laptop on CMU's WaveLAN network it's constantly logging about broadcast packets from Windows machines in the same area.) | Agreed, I think it has more to do with the nameserver. But | maybe Yet Another Netscape Problem? Any idea(s) as to a fix? | Or should I Just Live With It? +--->8 I have no idea. Maybe use tcpdump to find out what it's trying to look up? -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 9:43:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peace.mahoroba.org (peace.calm.imasy.or.jp [202.227.26.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3496F37B724; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from localhost (IDENT:GtRZuKIup2WYTHwTRZXJOScXKEpqvt8R3FEe/XFUnui0Pia/iwlEd5rzSjvwMgsi@localhost [::1]) (authenticated as ume with CRAM-MD5) by peace.mahoroba.org (8.11.3/8.11.3/peace) with ESMTP/inet6 id f33GdPa24652; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:39:25 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 01:39:21 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010404.013921.88708851.ume@mahoroba.org> To: andreas@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with remote printing from Win2000 to FreeBSD 4.3RC via lpd From: Hajimu UMEMOTO In-Reply-To: <20010403001036.A5501@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <20010403001036.A5501@titan.klemm.gtn.com> X-Mailer: xcite1.38> Mew version 1.95b115 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjJWMWMbKEIp?= X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 0C 53 FC 5D D0 37 91 05 D0 B3 EF 36 9B 6A BC X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:10:36 +0200 >>>>> Andreas Klemm said: andreas> error = getnameinfo(f, f->sa_len, NULL, 0, serv, sizeof(serv), andreas> NI_NUMERICSERV); andreas> if (error || atoi(serv) >= IPPORT_RESERVED) andreas> fatal(0, "Malformed from address"); andreas> What do you think why remote printing doesn't work ? andreas> Any experience ? I have to go to bed now, wanted to print one andreas> set of folies for a meeting tomorrow ;-) Well this is delayed now ;-) Is your lpr client actually bind to privilege port? I suspect Windows2000 doesn't do it. Since lpd uses r-authentication, the request must come from privilege port. -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 10:31:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jubilee.sd.odu.edu (sd11-061.sd.odu.edu [128.82.11.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66EF37B71D; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dknj@dknj.org) Received: from majorzoot (darkkiwi [192.168.2.2]) by jubilee.sd.odu.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id EEE98324E; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> From: "Kherry Zamore" To: Cc: Subject: su change? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:28:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just recently my friend locked himself out of his machine by changing root's shell to a nonexisting file. The only way he could become root again was by rebooting the machine into single user mode and changing it from there. Now while I know that its foolish to change root's shell in the first place, i don't think this is an acceptable punishment for those that do. According to su.c, if the user you are changing to does not have a valid shell, su complains and exits. A valid thing to do in today's security conscience society. Now, lets say you want to become root to fix this invalid shell problem.. su's nature is to complain and exit. The fix is rather simple, somewhere around line 310 in su.c is: if (!chshell(pwd->pw_shell) && ruid) errx(1, "permission denied (shell)."); The only thing we need to prepend to this is a check to see if we are trying to su to root, which we should allow regardless of the shell specified: if (pwd->pw_uid) if (!chshell(pwd->pw_shell) && ruid) errx(1, "permission denied (shell)."); Patches are available here (tested on 4.1): http://www.dknj.org/sourcecode/patches/su/ -= Kherry Zamore -=- (757) 683-7386 =- -= Resident Computer & Network Geek/God =- -= http://www.dknj.org =- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 10:47:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.packetdesign.com (dns.packetdesign.com [65.192.41.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B2037B722 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:47:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djc@packetdesign.com) Received: from packetdesign.com (pollywaffle.packetdesign.com [192.168.0.244]) by mailman.packetdesign.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f33HlH201946 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:47:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djc@packetdesign.com) Message-ID: <3ACA0D04.E169AC28@packetdesign.com> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:48:52 -0700 From: Darren Croke Organization: Packet Design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1.0.1-PACKET_DESIGN i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: stable build world fails Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to build stable and it blows up at line 1960 of contrib/gcc/jump.c. It looks as though some lines have been inadvertently trashed. /* First, cross jumping of conditional jumps: */ if (cross_jump && condjumps jump to code before TARGET. If so, see if matches. */ find_cross_jump (insn, JUMP_LABEL (insn), 1, &newjpos, &newlpos); Darren. Darren Croke MTS Packet Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11: 3:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073FF37B71C; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:03:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f33I1SR03545; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:01:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Kherry Zamore" , Cc: References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> Subject: Re: su change? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:03:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > According to su.c, if the user you are changing to does not have a valid > shell, su complains and exits. A valid thing to do in today's security > conscience society. Now, lets say you want to become root to fix this > invalid shell problem.. su's nature is to complain and exit. The fix is > rather simple, somewhere around line 310 in su.c is: > > if (!chshell(pwd->pw_shell) && ruid) > errx(1, "permission denied (shell)."); > > The only thing we need to prepend to this is a check to see if we are trying > to su to root, which we should allow regardless of the shell specified: I disagree. The root account is an account that needs to have the highest number of security checks present. If you're swift enough to change root's shell to something non-standard and forget to update /etc/shells, then having to drop to single user mode is suitable punishment. After all, playing with the root user is like playing with fire -- sooner or later you're going to get burned. Just consider your friend lucky - doing similar things to the root account on any enterprise UNIX (UnixWare, Solaris, AIX) could require a complete reinstall - especially if it's running C2-level security. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11: 4:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fmdb.c3.hu (dial-219.digitel2002.hu [213.163.2.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0090F37B71E for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:04:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mico@bsd.hu) Received: (qmail 918 invoked by uid 1003); 3 Apr 2001 17:38:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:38:59 +0200 From: Miklos Niedermayer To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: Miklos Niedermayer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available Message-ID: <20010403193859.B278@fmdb.c3.hu> References: <20010402185645.A241@fmdb.c3.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from roman@xpert.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 08:19:02PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 08:19:02PM +0200, Roman Shterenzon wrote: > fxp(4) on the other hand is rumored to intervene with vinum's raid5... :( That's because i haven't bought Intel NICs. Some people say they are very good cards, some say that the fxp driver is very good as well, but there were reports on the lists that some things don't work very well if you use Intel cards. Things are not clear, I just see that something is broken somewhere. Bye Miklos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11: 9:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC4F37B71E; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:09:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 14kVFI-0002s0-00 ; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:09:36 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:09:35 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su change? Message-ID: <20010403140935.F9618@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca>; from matt@gsicomp.on.ca on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 02:03:36PM -0400 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Emmerton probably said: > Just consider your friend lucky - doing similar things to the root account > on any enterprise UNIX (UnixWare, Solaris, AIX) could require a complete > reinstall - especially if it's running C2-level security. False. Solaris, certainly, would just require booting from cdrom, mounting / and editing the password file. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11:15:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from allmaui.com (server25.aitcom.net [208.234.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6F637B719; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:15:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@allmaui.com) Received: from allmaui.com (pwnat-2-o.placeware.com [209.1.15.34]) by allmaui.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11008; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:15:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3ACA12BD.A8706D97@allmaui.com> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:13:17 -0700 From: Craig Cowen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su change? References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20010403140935.F9618@pir.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I worked at an isp and the office staff was responsible for terminating accounts. Well, one particular staff member kept screwing up in vi and wiping out the root user's entry. That's when I made them use chsh I believe that it will give error messages like visudo to common mistakes. Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Matthew Emmerton probably said: > > Just consider your friend lucky - doing similar things to the root account > > on any enterprise UNIX (UnixWare, Solaris, AIX) could require a complete > > reinstall - especially if it's running C2-level security. > > False. > > Solaris, certainly, would just require booting from cdrom, mounting / > and editing the password file. > > P. > > -- > pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11:16:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from allmaui.com (server25.aitcom.net [208.234.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96A037B718; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:16:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@allmaui.com) Received: from allmaui.com (pwnat-2-o.placeware.com [209.1.15.34]) by allmaui.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11992; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:16:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3ACA12FF.F4000B95@allmaui.com> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:14:23 -0700 From: Craig Cowen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su change? References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20010403140935.F9618@pir.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FALSE! If you have the boot prom set not to allow booting from cdrom, you're bummin' Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Matthew Emmerton probably said: > > Just consider your friend lucky - doing similar things to the root account > > on any enterprise UNIX (UnixWare, Solaris, AIX) could require a complete > > reinstall - especially if it's running C2-level security. > > False. > > Solaris, certainly, would just require booting from cdrom, mounting / > and editing the password file. > > P. > > -- > pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11:22:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bluenugget.net (skin-flute.com [64.3.150.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE5637B727; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:22:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from geniusj@bluenugget.net) Received: by bluenugget.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id A140D1360A; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:23:12 -0700 (PDT) To: Kherry Zamore Subject: Re: su change? Message-ID: <986322192.3aca151091d2a@bluenugget.net> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:23:12 -0700 (PDT) From: geniusj@bluenugget.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> In-Reply-To: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Kherry Zamore : > Just recently my friend locked himself out of his machine by changing > root's > shell to a nonexisting file. The only way he could become root again > was by > rebooting the machine into single user mode and changing it from there. > Now > while I know that its foolish to change root's shell in the first place, > i > don't think this is an acceptable punishment for those that do. > I disagree, anything we can do in su to prevent root access when possibly not wanted is great with me. Besides, if your friend had perhaps used chfn instead of vipw to change his root shell, it *should* have bitched at him if the shell did not exist (i'll have to double check this.) But there are an infinite # of conditionals that we could use in your friend's scenario. Perhaps it would be a better idea if vipw would give a warning if you set the root's shell incorrectly? Cheers, -JD- P.S. DKNJ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11:23:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0CB37B71A; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:23:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from schulte-laptop.schulte.org ([64.183.199.40]) by poontang.schulte.org (8.12.0.Beta5/8.12.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id f33IMfIr069444; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:22:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010403131900.00af5eb0@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:22:18 -0500 To: Craig Cowen , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: su change? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3ACA12BD.A8706D97@allmaui.com> References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20010403140935.F9618@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:13 AM 4/3/2001 -0700, Craig Cowen wrote: >I worked at an isp and the office staff was responsible for terminating >accounts. Well, one particular staff member kept screwing up in vi and wiping >out the root user's entry. >That's when I made them use chsh > >I believe that it will give error messages like visudo to common mistakes. Good grief. One should always use utilities like vipw or chsh when editing the password databases. They do sanity checking, locking, and other magically important tasks which a simple `vi` won't. Not to mention that on FreeBSD, vipw and chsh will also run pwd_mkdb automatically. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11:29:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4C137B71F; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:29:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 14kVYi-00030d-00 ; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:29:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:29:39 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su change? Message-ID: <20010403142939.G9618@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20010403140935.F9618@pir.net> <3ACA12FF.F4000B95@allmaui.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ACA12FF.F4000B95@allmaui.com>; from craig@allmaui.com on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 11:14:23AM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Craig Cowen probably said: > FALSE! If you have the boot prom set not to allow booting from > cdrom, you're bummin' Then you change the prom settings. Hardly rocket science and doesn't make it untrue. If you're going to "reinstall" because of one little mistake like that you'd have to boot from different media anyway. Next you're going to say "But, but, what if you didn't have a cdrom drive ? ... or someone forgot the prom password !" ? All these things are different issues and can be fixed. Yeesh. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11:32:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nsmail.corp.globalstar.com (gibraltar.globalstar.com [207.88.248.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC12A37B719; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjclark@alum.mit.edu) Received: from alum.mit.edu ([207.88.153.184]) by nsmail.corp.globalstar.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GB8BIA00.LZF; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:32:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3ACA1755.7C98C5@alum.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:32:53 -0700 From: Crist Clark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Cowen Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su change? References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20010403140935.F9618@pir.net> <3ACA12FF.F4000B95@allmaui.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [-stable cut from CC-list. -security almost cut.] Craig Cowen wrote: > > FALSE! If you have the boot prom set not to allow booting from cdrom, you're > bummin' Then just enable it again. Jeesh. It's more fun if the system has no CDROM, tho' (or floppy to boot up OpenBSD). Ever tried to setup a netboot into single-user just to access a messed up Sun box? If you've put a password in the boot PROM and forgotten that however, you are fscked. Time to buy a new chip! > > Matthew Emmerton probably said: > > > Just consider your friend lucky - doing similar things to the root account > > > on any enterprise UNIX (UnixWare, Solaris, AIX) could require a complete > > > reinstall - especially if it's running C2-level security. If you're running a trusted system, is root even that special anymore? Messing up root should be just like messing up any other account. > > False. > > > > Solaris, certainly, would just require booting from cdrom, mounting / > > and editing the password file. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11:38: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sherline.com (sherline.net [216.120.87.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E3C837B71D for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from data@irev.net) Received: (qmail 24476 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2001 18:37:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server2) (216.120.87.3) by 216.120.87.2 with SMTP; 3 Apr 2001 18:37:50 -0000 Message-ID: <002d01c0bc6d$2d558390$035778d8@sherline.net> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Matthew Emmerton" , "Kherry Zamore" , Cc: References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Subject: Re: su change? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:37:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > if (!chshell(pwd->pw_shell) && ruid) > > errx(1, "permission denied (shell)."); > > > > The only thing we need to prepend to this is a check to see if we are > trying > > to su to root, which we should allow regardless of the shell specified: > > I disagree. The root account is an account that needs to have the highest > number of security checks present. Then make a point as to why root, when not having a valid shell, not being able to log in is a useful security check in any way shape or form. So people can change root's shell to something invalid when they want to lock the root account ? That's nonsensical. If root doesn't have a valid shell, something is broken. If someone gets to that stage in the code for su, they already have an account in wheel, and the root password. You're saying that in the situation in which someone has an account in wheel and the root password, but root's shell is invalid, access should be denied ? I fail to see the security value in this. I support the code patch, while it's value is minimal, the behavior is not unreasonable or insecure. > Just consider your friend lucky - doing similar things to the root account > on any enterprise UNIX (UnixWare, Solaris, AIX) could require a complete > reinstall - especially if it's running C2-level security. Sigh. I won't bother arguing this. I think some else has. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11:51:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6A6837B720 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:51:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 85540 invoked by uid 100); 3 Apr 2001 18:51:21 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15050.7081.662834.357741@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:51:21 -0500 To: "Matthew Emmerton" Cc: "Kherry Zamore" , , Subject: Re: su change? In-Reply-To: <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Emmerton types: > > According to su.c, if the user you are changing to does not have a valid > > shell, su complains and exits. A valid thing to do in today's security > > conscience society. Now, lets say you want to become root to fix this > > invalid shell problem.. su's nature is to complain and exit. The fix is > > rather simple, somewhere around line 310 in su.c is: > > > > if (!chshell(pwd->pw_shell) && ruid) > > errx(1, "permission denied (shell)."); > > > > The only thing we need to prepend to this is a check to see if we are > trying > > to su to root, which we should allow regardless of the shell specified: > I disagree. The root account is an account that needs to have the highest > number of security checks present. If you're swift enough to change root's > shell to something non-standard and forget to update /etc/shells, then > having to drop to single user mode is suitable punishment. After all, > playing with the root user is like playing with fire -- sooner or later > you're going to get burned. The fix he suggested isn't for the case of root's shell not being in /etc/shells, it's for the case of root's shell not being an executable. If root shell isn't in /etc/shells, then stock su with no arguments will work just fine - you'll just get the non-standard shell. If root's shell isn't executable, then su with no flags fails because the exec of the shell fails. If you try and use the "-m" flag to su and start your shell, the quoted code causes a failure. Only root (the "&& ruid" test) is allowed to su to an account with a non-standard shell without using the non-standard shell. If you hit that case, and don't have a root shell around, you're pretty much hosed. You have to power cycle to get the machine to a state where this can be fixed, whether that means just booting single-user, or booting from an alternate media of some kind, or something really extreme. Sudo can probably be configured to solve the problem as well. This just expands the current policy of "Only root can get a standard shell for an account with a non-standard shell" to include the case where the account is root. I think it would be better if the code showed that, though: if (!chshell(pwd->pwd_shell) && ruid && pwd->pw_uid) errx(1, "permission denied (shell)."); but that's just me. On the other hand, I advise against changing root shell, and this lends weight to that advice. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 11:58: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.packetdesign.com (dns.packetdesign.com [65.192.41.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEA237B71F for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djc@packetdesign.com) Received: from packetdesign.com (pollywaffle.packetdesign.com [192.168.0.244]) by mailman.packetdesign.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f33Ivu203501 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:57:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djc@packetdesign.com) Message-ID: <3ACA1D94.4DAEEDED@packetdesign.com> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:59:33 -0700 From: Darren Croke Organization: Packet Design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1.0.1-PACKET_DESIGN i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stable build world fails References: <3ACA0D04.E169AC28@packetdesign.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This turns out to be caused by a bizzare local network problem. Apologies for the premature post and thanks for the responses. Darren. > I'm trying to build stable and it blows up at line 1960 of > contrib/gcc/jump.c. > > It looks as though some lines have been inadvertently trashed. > > /* First, cross jumping of conditional jumps: */ > > if (cross_jump && condjumps jump > to code before TARGET. If so, see if matches. */ > find_cross_jump (insn, JUMP_LABEL (insn), 1, > &newjpos, &newlpos); > > Darren. > > Darren Croke > MTS > Packet Design > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 12:15:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dmz.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8372537B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: (from http@localhost) by dmz.harmonic.co.il (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f33JGsV28530 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:16:54 +0200 (IST) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected Message-ID: <986325414.3aca21a606b9a@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 21:16:54 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I installed the 4.3rc2 on my fw machine, and I noticed the $subject. Is it a known issue? --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: webmail.harmonic.co.il To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 12:31:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC1737B71E; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:31:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1625 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:30:12 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:30:12 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su change? In-Reply-To: <20010403140935.F9618@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Matthew Emmerton probably said: > > Just consider your friend lucky - doing similar things to the root account > > on any enterprise UNIX (UnixWare, Solaris, AIX) could require a complete > > reinstall - especially if it's running C2-level security. > > False. > > Solaris, certainly, would just require booting from cdrom, mounting / > and editing the password file. Why is booting from CDROM a better fix than booting single-user from the hard disk? The original poster wanted to avaoid a reboot *at all*. Solaris, AIX, and even FreeBSD can be booted from a CDROM nowadays, but I've recovered a SCO system that had a security-fault in it's trustware. Reinsall was the advised procedure, but there were enough security-db tools to recover the root account. On the high-security systems I've seen, a skilled tech can usually recover the system to allow operation, but the machine should be considered tainted and reinstalled ASAP if you ever want support from the vendor or peace from your auditors. - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 12:34:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3815837B71D for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:34:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f33JYKJ08345; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:34:20 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected Message-ID: <20010403123420.I813@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <986325414.3aca21a606b9a@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <986325414.3aca21a606b9a@webmail.harmonic.co.il>; from roman@xpert.com on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:16:54PM +0200 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Roman Shterenzon [010403 12:16] wrote: > Hello, > I installed the 4.3rc2 on my fw machine, and I noticed the $subject. > Is it a known issue? It seems to work here on -current, are you sure that you restarted getty? evil: killall getty -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 12:36:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamus.xpert.com (jamus.xpert.com [199.203.132.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2507337B718 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: from roman (helo=localhost) by jamus.xpert.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14kWfw-0002su-00; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 21:41:12 +0200 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:41:12 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Subject: Re: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected In-Reply-To: <20010403123420.I813@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: Organization: Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Roman Shterenzon [010403 12:16] wrote: > > Hello, > > I installed the 4.3rc2 on my fw machine, and I noticed the $subject. > > Is it a known issue? > > It seems to work here on -current, are you sure that you restarted > getty? > > evil: killall getty hmm.. I can plug the monitor and check. I was testing telnet. The "im" works - e.g. if I change there something, it's seen. P.S. Did you receive the diskless-install document I've sent you? --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 12:44:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamus.xpert.com (jamus.xpert.com [199.203.132.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3959C37B718 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:44:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: from roman (helo=localhost) by jamus.xpert.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14kWnf-0002tn-00; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 21:49:11 +0200 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:49:11 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Subject: Re: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected In-Reply-To: <20010403123420.I813@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: Organization: Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Perhaps it's this PR?: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23562 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Roman Shterenzon [010403 12:16] wrote: > > Hello, > > I installed the 4.3rc2 on my fw machine, and I noticed the $subject. > > Is it a known issue? > > It seems to work here on -current, are you sure that you restarted > getty? > > evil: killall getty > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] > Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," > start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom. > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 13: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3BE37B718 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:00:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f33K0J009467; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:00:19 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected Message-ID: <20010403130019.J813@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20010403123420.I813@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from roman@xpert.com on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:49:11PM +0200 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Roman Shterenzon [010403 12:44] wrote: > Perhaps it's this PR?: > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23562 I feel kinda shy to even ask to commit to telnetd this late in the release cycle. Let's call it a missing feature for now and wait till 4.3-stable before approaching this. > > On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > * Roman Shterenzon [010403 12:16] wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I installed the 4.3rc2 on my fw machine, and I noticed the $subject. > > > Is it a known issue? > > > > It seems to work here on -current, are you sure that you restarted > > getty? > > > > evil: killall getty > > > > -- > > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] > > Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," > > start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom. > > > > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant > [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 13: 5:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5799037B71C for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:05:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) Received: from gate.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with BSMTP id f33K58J02532 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:05:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <+9uY4BS1zl@dmeyer.dinoex.sub.org> From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: Re: Proposed changes to Makefile in /etc/mail Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 21:58:42 +0200 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.77 References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010402235945.04a32760@localhost> X-Gateway: ZCONNECT gate.dinoex.sub.org [UNIX/Connect 0.91] X-Accept-Language: de,en X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 16 EC 0A D3 3A 4F 28 8A 8A 47 93 F1 CF 2F 12 X-Noad: Please don't send me ad's by mail. I'm bored by this type of mail. X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1999 by Dirk Meyer -- All rights reserved. X-Note: sending SPAM is a violation of both german and US law and will at least trigger a complaint at your provider's postmaster. X-PGP-Key-Avail: mailto:pgp-public-keys@keys.de.pgp.net Subject:GET 0x331CDA5D X-ZC-VIA: 20010403000000S+2@dinoex.sub.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brett Glass wrote: > The change adds 6 lines of code that I've had in my own Makefile for some > time. They tell the sytsem that `hostname`.mc -- if it exists -- should > be the default .mc file that is processed to make sendmail.cf. (The > `hostname`.mc convention is a longstanding one; it's used in the samples > in the source tree.) Thus, one can bring in one's collection of existing > .mc files, create a new file with the new host name, and carry the > expanded collection onward to the next machine one configures. I second this, I use a similar meachnism im my shared: admin/cf-8.11.3/local/Makefile I would like to suggest to allow a "Makefile.local" ----- snip ---- .if exists(Makefile.local) .include "Makefile.local" .endif ----- snip ---- kind regards Dirk - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 13:20:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CB337B71B; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 14kXIG-0003yA-00 ; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 16:20:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:20:47 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su change? Message-ID: <20010403162047.G13435@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010403140935.F9618@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jwyatt@rwsystems.net on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 02:30:12PM -0500 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Wyatt probably said: > On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > Matthew Emmerton probably said: > > > Just consider your friend lucky - doing similar things to the > > > root account on any enterprise UNIX (UnixWare, Solaris, AIX) > > > could require a complete reinstall - especially if it's running > > > C2-level security. > > False. > > Solaris, certainly, would just require booting from cdrom, mounting / > > and editing the password file. > Why is booting from CDROM a better fix than booting single-user from the > hard disk? The original poster wanted to avaoid a reboot *at all*. I didn't say it was better, I just corrected the comment that you'd have to reinstall. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 14:53:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89B237B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:53:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f33Lr3c16830; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104032153.f33Lr3c16830@ptavv.es.net> To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Roman Shterenzon , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:00:19 PDT." <20010403130019.J813@fw.wintelcom.net> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:53:03 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Having this work is critical for many places that mandate a pre-login message. I suspect it would be a major problem for most US government users. It sure has messed up my plan to install 4.3 on a new name server for our network. The security people are remarkably unwilling to accept that it will be fixed soon. They want it fixed NOW. Yes, I can fix it myself by editing the source and it should be fixed in stable about 2 hours after stable is released, but many places will stick to release come hell or high water and than complain that /etc/issue is not working. While my opinion is not worth much, I do wish this could be re-considered. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:00:19 -0700 > From: Alfred Perlstein > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > * Roman Shterenzon [010403 12:44] wrote: > > Perhaps it's this PR?: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23562 > > I feel kinda shy to even ask to commit to telnetd this late in > the release cycle. Let's call it a missing feature for now > and wait till 4.3-stable before approaching this. > > > > > > > On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > * Roman Shterenzon [010403 12:16] wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I installed the 4.3rc2 on my fw machine, and I noticed the $subject. > > > > Is it a known issue? > > > > > > It seems to work here on -current, are you sure that you restarted > > > getty? > > > > > > evil: killall getty > > > > > > -- > > > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] > > > Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," > > > start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom. > > > > > > > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant > > [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] > Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 15:11:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E260E37B71C; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:11:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f33MBBD13348; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:11:11 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Roman Shterenzon , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, asmodia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected Message-ID: <20010403151111.E12164@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20010403130019.J813@fw.wintelcom.net> <200104032153.f33Lr3c16830@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104032153.f33Lr3c16830@ptavv.es.net>; from oberman@es.net on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 02:53:03PM -0700 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Kevin Oberman [010403 14:53] wrote: > Having this work is critical for many places that mandate a pre-login > message. I suspect it would be a major problem for most US government > users. It sure has messed up my plan to install 4.3 on a new name > server for our network. The security people are remarkably unwilling > to accept that it will be fixed soon. They want it fixed NOW. > > Yes, I can fix it myself by editing the source and it should be fixed > in stable about 2 hours after stable is released, but many places will > stick to release come hell or high water and than complain that > /etc/issue is not working. > > While my opinion is not worth much, I do wish this could be > re-considered. I was doing to tell you to RTFM about gettytab's alternative to /etc/issue, but it looks like telnetd got pretty broken somehow in both -current and -stable wrt per-login banners. Ie, niether one seems to work now. :( It looks like Poul-Henning and Jeroen Ruigrok were the last people seen in the general vicinity of telnetd/gettytab. Can we get a helping hand here guys? -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 15:35:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamus.xpert.com (jamus.xpert.com [199.203.132.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0DD37B71C for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: from roman (helo=localhost) by jamus.xpert.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14kZSs-0003Bd-00; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 00:39:54 +0200 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:39:54 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Subject: Re: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected In-Reply-To: <20010403151111.E12164@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: Organization: Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With enough attention and code analysis, that could be made before 4.3-RELEASE. There's almost two weeks left, and many people who are willing to test it. Me for example :) On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Kevin Oberman [010403 14:53] wrote: > > Having this work is critical for many places that mandate a pre-login > > message. I suspect it would be a major problem for most US government > > users. It sure has messed up my plan to install 4.3 on a new name > > server for our network. The security people are remarkably unwilling > > to accept that it will be fixed soon. They want it fixed NOW. > > > > Yes, I can fix it myself by editing the source and it should be fixed > > in stable about 2 hours after stable is released, but many places will > > stick to release come hell or high water and than complain that > > /etc/issue is not working. > > > > While my opinion is not worth much, I do wish this could be > > re-considered. > > I was doing to tell you to RTFM about gettytab's alternative to > /etc/issue, but it looks like telnetd got pretty broken somehow in > both -current and -stable wrt per-login banners. Ie, niether one > seems to work now. :( > > It looks like Poul-Henning and Jeroen Ruigrok were the last people > seen in the general vicinity of telnetd/gettytab. Can we get a helping > hand here guys? > > -Alfred > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 15:37: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EE637B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f33MaoQ14138; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:36:50 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected Message-ID: <20010403153650.H12164@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20010403151111.E12164@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from roman@xpert.com on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:39:54AM +0200 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Roman Shterenzon [010403 15:35] wrote: > With enough attention and code analysis, that could be made before > 4.3-RELEASE. There's almost two weeks left, and many people who are > willing to test it. Me for example :) Can you try (on -stable) to compile /usr/src/libexec/telnetd and install it? It looks like it's the crypto one that's not working... > > On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > * Kevin Oberman [010403 14:53] wrote: > > > Having this work is critical for many places that mandate a pre-login > > > message. I suspect it would be a major problem for most US government > > > users. It sure has messed up my plan to install 4.3 on a new name > > > server for our network. The security people are remarkably unwilling > > > to accept that it will be fixed soon. They want it fixed NOW. > > > > > > Yes, I can fix it myself by editing the source and it should be fixed > > > in stable about 2 hours after stable is released, but many places will > > > stick to release come hell or high water and than complain that > > > /etc/issue is not working. > > > > > > While my opinion is not worth much, I do wish this could be > > > re-considered. > > > > I was doing to tell you to RTFM about gettytab's alternative to > > /etc/issue, but it looks like telnetd got pretty broken somehow in > > both -current and -stable wrt per-login banners. Ie, niether one > > seems to work now. :( > > > > It looks like Poul-Henning and Jeroen Ruigrok were the last people > > seen in the general vicinity of telnetd/gettytab. Can we get a helping > > hand here guys? > > > > -Alfred > > > > --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant > [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 15:37:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B3337B71A; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:37:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f33MYnR04124; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:34:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <009001c0bc8e$a1eb6370$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" , "Kherry Zamore" , Cc: References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <002d01c0bc6d$2d558390$035778d8@sherline.net> Subject: Re: su change? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:37:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > if (!chshell(pwd->pw_shell) && ruid) > > > errx(1, "permission denied (shell)."); > > > > > > The only thing we need to prepend to this is a check to see if we are > > trying > > > to su to root, which we should allow regardless of the shell specified: > > > > I disagree. The root account is an account that needs to have the highest > > number of security checks present. > > Then make a point as to why root, when not having a valid shell, not being > able to log in is a useful security check in any way shape or form. So > people can change root's shell to something invalid when they want to lock > the root account ? That's nonsensical. Last time I checked, only root had write access to /etc/master.passwd and /etc/shells, so only someone who hacked root could change root's shell to something invalid. (Note that I'm not handling the case of where an administrator does something stupid.) gabby# ls -al /etc/shells /etc/master.passwd -rw-r--r- 1 root wheel 223 Jul 28 2000 /etc/shells -rw------ 1 root wheel 1423 mar 18 14:10 /etc/master.passwd gabby# If someone happens to change root's shell, then the security of the machine has been breached in some way. The immediate consequence is that root can't log in. If you (the administrator) notices that you can't log in as root anymore, then it's a really big clue that something major is wrong, and would neccessitate taking the machine out of multi-user mode ASAP to perform the investigation and fix things up. Furthermore, if taking the machine down to single-user mode is a real big problem (because it's a production machine or something equally important), then the fact that someone's compromised root makes taking the machine down a very reasonable thing to do. The lesson? Don't screw with production machines unless you know the consequences of your actions, and if you must screw around, make sure you're using the appropriate tools (vipw, chsh, etc) to ensure that your changes are valid. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 15:39:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamus.xpert.com (jamus.xpert.com [199.203.132.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30F437B718 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:39:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: from roman (helo=localhost) by jamus.xpert.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14kZWf-0003C7-00; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 00:43:49 +0200 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:43:49 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Subject: Re: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected In-Reply-To: <20010403153650.H12164@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: Organization: Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Roman Shterenzon [010403 15:35] wrote: > > With enough attention and code analysis, that could be made before > > 4.3-RELEASE. There's almost two weeks left, and many people who are > > willing to test it. Me for example :) > > Can you try (on -stable) to compile /usr/src/libexec/telnetd > and install it? It looks like it's the crypto one that's not > working... What do you mean? Just go to /usr/src/libexec/telnetd and recompile it? I'll do it right now. --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 15:40:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sherline.com (sherline.net [216.120.87.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20B4C37B71D for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:40:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from data@irev.net) Received: (qmail 26920 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2001 22:40:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server2) (216.120.87.3) by 216.120.87.2 with SMTP; 3 Apr 2001 22:40:16 -0000 Message-ID: <004201c0bc8f$09c514f0$035778d8@sherline.net> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Matthew Emmerton" , "Kherry Zamore" , Cc: References: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> <001f01c0bc68$681a2b20$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <002d01c0bc6d$2d558390$035778d8@sherline.net> <009001c0bc8e$a1eb6370$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Subject: Re: su change? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:40:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" ; "Kherry Zamore" ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 3:37 PM Subject: Re: su change? > > > > if (!chshell(pwd->pw_shell) && ruid) > > > > errx(1, "permission denied (shell)."); > > > > > > > > The only thing we need to prepend to this is a check to see if we are > > > trying > > > > to su to root, which we should allow regardless of the shell > specified: > > > > > > I disagree. The root account is an account that needs to have the > highest > > > number of security checks present. > > > > Then make a point as to why root, when not having a valid shell, not being > > able to log in is a useful security check in any way shape or form. So > > people can change root's shell to something invalid when they want to lock > > the root account ? That's nonsensical. > > Last time I checked, only root had write access to /etc/master.passwd and > /etc/shells, so only someone who hacked root could change root's shell to > something invalid. (Note that I'm not handling the case of where an > administrator does something stupid.) > > gabby# ls -al /etc/shells /etc/master.passwd > -rw-r--r- 1 root wheel 223 Jul 28 2000 /etc/shells > -rw------ 1 root wheel 1423 mar 18 14:10 /etc/master.passwd > gabby# > > If someone happens to change root's shell, then the security of the machine > has been breached in some way. The immediate consequence is that root can't > log in. If you (the administrator) notices that you can't log in as root > anymore, then it's a really big clue that something major is wrong, and > would neccessitate taking the machine out of multi-user mode ASAP to perform > the investigation and fix things up. If someone roots your box, they're not going to change your shell to something invalid. If they have root, why change the shell at all. When you root a box, do you say "Damnit, why is this guy using csh ! I want bash !". It still doesn't make sense. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 15:41:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamus.xpert.com (jamus.xpert.com [199.203.132.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2EB37B718 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:41:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: from roman (helo=localhost) by jamus.xpert.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14kZYl-0003CD-00; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 00:45:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:45:59 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Subject: Re: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected In-Reply-To: <20010403153650.H12164@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: Organization: Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Roman Shterenzon [010403 15:35] wrote: > > With enough attention and code analysis, that could be made before > > 4.3-RELEASE. There's almost two weeks left, and many people who are > > willing to test it. Me for example :) > > Can you try (on -stable) to compile /usr/src/libexec/telnetd > and install it? It looks like it's the crypto one that's not > working... Yes, this one works ok, I've tested it. Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. This is a test login: "This is a test" is the contents of /etc/issue. --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 16: 5:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F9537B71A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:05:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f33N5nm14975; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:05:49 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3rc2: if=/etc/issue in /etc/gettytab is not respected Message-ID: <20010403160549.J12164@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20010403153650.H12164@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from roman@xpert.com on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:43:49AM +0200 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Roman Shterenzon [010403 15:39] wrote: > On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > * Roman Shterenzon [010403 15:35] wrote: > > > With enough attention and code analysis, that could be made before > > > 4.3-RELEASE. There's almost two weeks left, and many people who are > > > willing to test it. Me for example :) > > > > Can you try (on -stable) to compile /usr/src/libexec/telnetd > > and install it? It looks like it's the crypto one that's not > > working... > > What do you mean? Just go to /usr/src/libexec/telnetd and recompile it? > I'll do it right now. Well that's one workaround. :) What I'd really like to know is why under the "secure" one "USER" is being set in the enviorment while in the "normal" one it's not. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 16:12:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB8C37B72C; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:12:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09912; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:12:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200104032312.QAA09912@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Network performance question In-Reply-To: <200104022315.f32NFO702856@mass.dis.org> from Mike Smith at "Apr 2, 1 04:15:23 pm" To: msmith@FreeBSD.ORG (Mike Smith) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:12:44 -0700 (MST) Cc: lucky@lansters.com, bc979@lafn.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, dwcjr@inethouston.net Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Mike Smith wrote: > It's a reasonable assumption; it sounds like you haven't tuned the > FreeBSD box very well, so it's doing a lot of disk I/O. I seem to recall that Linux does async disk writes out of the box. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 16:28:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.telocity.com (d146.focal8.interaccess.com [207.208.189.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4474737B720 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:28:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cgaff@mail.telocity.com) Received: (from cgaff@localhost) by mail.telocity.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f33NSLE82125; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:28:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cgaff) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:27:01 -0500 From: "Corey G." To: psglenn@uswestmail.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Silo overflows Message-ID: <20010403182701.A82069@telocity.com> References: <20010313083251.21417.cpmta@c000.sfo.cp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010313083251.21417.cpmta@c000.sfo.cp.net>; from psglenn@uswestmail.net on Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:32:51AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With FreeBSD 4.3RC1 I am also seeing quite a few silo overflow messages as well. I never did notice or see these before. I have identical hardware as with previous releases using an external Sportster 56K modem. sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 57) sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 58) sio0: 3 more silo overflows (total 61) -- Thanks, Corey On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:32:51AM -0800, psglenn@uswestmail.net wrote: > Hello, > I have been seeing many silo overflows lately. > I'm running yesterday's 4.3 BETA and tracking stable. > I've seen some mail about this problem so I send this info. > > bash-2.04$ uname -a > FreeBSD big.psf.his.org 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #7: Sat Mar 10 15:21:53 PST 2001 root@big.psf.his.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/BIG i386 > bash-2.04$ dmesg > Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #7: Sat Mar 10 15:21:53 PST 2001 > root@big.psf.his.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/BIG > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 400910654 Hz > CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 > Features=0x183f9ff > real memory = 234881024 (229376K bytes) > avail memory = 225132544 (219856K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0376000. > Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled > md0: Malloc disk > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > pcib0: on motherboard > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > pci1: at 0.0 irq 10 > isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf irq 0 at device 15.0 on pci0 > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 > dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0xde00-0xdeff mem 0xdfffff00-0xdfffffff irq 9 at device 18.0 on pci0 > dc0: Ethernet address: **:**:**:**:**:** > miibus0: on dc0 > ukphy0: on miibus0 > ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 > sio0: type 16550A > sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 > sio1: type 16550A > ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 > ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode > plip0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus0 > pcm0: at port 0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38f irq 11 drq 0 on isa0 > unknown: can't assign resources > unknown: can't assign resources > unknown: can't assign resources > unknown: can't assign resources > unknown: can't assign resources > unknown: can't assign resources > ad0: 8223MB [16708/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 > acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using UDMA33 > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state > dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state > dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state > sio1: 1 more silo overflow (total 1) > sio1: 1 more silo overflow (total 2) > sio1: 1 more silo overflow (total 3) > > > > sio1: 1 more silo overflow (total 353) > sio1: 1 more silo overflow (total 354) > sio1: 2 more silo overflows (total 356) > > The above info is after two days 8:40 uptime. > Ive been installing ports through my US-Robtics modem > 10 or 20 meg per day or so. > I found somthing on netbsd's kernel that allowed tuning of the fifo in their > kernel but LINT kernel-config doesn't seem to mention anything > I was hoping to find somthing in sysctl I could tweak but no luck so far. > > I think I've seen this since 4.0-RELEASE when I started running freebsd. > > There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, > but the end thereof are the ways of death. Pv14:12,pv16:25 > > Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---end quoted text--- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 16:36:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.236.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAF737B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:36:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu (ANNEX-3.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.3]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f33NZrr07245; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 19:35:50 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: "Corey G." , psglenn@uswestmail.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Silo overflows Message-ID: <165790000.986340950@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20010403182701.A82069@telocity.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, April 03, 2001 18:27:01 -0500, "Corey G." wrote: +----- | With FreeBSD 4.3RC1 I am also seeing quite a few silo overflow messages | as well. I never did notice or see these before. I have identical | hardware as with previous releases using an external Sportster 56K | modem. | | sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 57) | sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 58) | sio0: 3 more silo overflows (total 61) +--->8 I'm seeing a lot of them as well. Worse, I start getting *tons* of "microuptime() went backwards" messages after some period (rearranging hardware made it go from "within minutes of boot" to "after several days", but once it starts it never stops) --- and the timekeeping goes to pot once it starts. I have to kill off syslogd to (a) keep it from filling /var and (b) leave some spare cycles for other processes. I can't provide a current dmesg, will need to reboot --- that'll happen later tonight once I don't need it doing ppp+NAT for the laptop (the machine itself is virtually unusable from the console). -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 16:53: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.telocity.com (d146.focal8.interaccess.com [207.208.189.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84A037B71A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:53:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cgaff@mail.telocity.com) Received: (from cgaff@localhost) by mail.telocity.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f33Nr0B82352 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:53:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cgaff) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:52:29 -0500 From: "Corey G." To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UDMA 33/UDMA 100 perfs Message-ID: <20010403185228.B82131@telocity.com> References: <200103130329.f2D3TXN73556@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103130329.f2D3TXN73556@freefall.freebsd.org>; from jmz@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 07:29:33PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since I have seen some discussions here on IO tests with various disk vendors I want to point out something about the Maxtor drives. Most people already know this but some may not. For all the new Maxtor ATA100 drives there are some things that can really hurt you if you do not pay attention while performing IO tests. 1. They ship with an extra write verify enabled for the first 10 power cycles. This can be turned off with the Maxtor write verification utility. This will obviously hurt any performance tests. 2. By default the ATA100 drives are shipped with a maximum UDMA of 66. Only by using the UDMA update software can you invoke UDMA/100. 3. Acoustic dampening is on by default. This is used to make the drive run more quietly. However, it comes with a performance hit. You must use the acoustic management utility to turn this option off for the best performance. I have successfully done the steps above on 4.3RC1 without any problems with softupdates enabled as well. I am using the maxtor PCI ATA/100 controller card. All of these utilities can be found at Maxtor's homepage. Thanks, Corey On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 07:29:33PM -0800, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote: > Is this the normal behavior expected? > > 1) > ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable > ad0: 19092MB [38792/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 > # dd if=/dev/ad0e of=/dev/null bs=1m count=1000 > 1048576000 bytes transferred in 49.445390 secs (21206750 bytes/sec) > > 2) > ad0: 19092MB [38792/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 > # dd if=/dev/ad0e of=/dev/null bs=1m count=1000 > 1048576000 bytes transferred in 49.337278 secs (21253220 bytes/sec) > > I get the same performance in both cases. This is with a 4.3-BETA > kernel. I have only one drive on the IDE bus. > > Jean-Marc > > -- > Jean-Marc Zucconi -- PGP Key: finger jmz@FreeBSD.org [KeyID: 400B38E9] > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---end quoted text--- -- Best Regards, Corey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 16:57:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.236.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CC737B724 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:57:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu (ANNEX-3.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.3]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f33NvLr08140 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 19:57:19 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Silo overflows Message-ID: <185630000.986342239@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <165790000.986340950@pyanfar.ece.cmu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="==========1989919384==========" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==========1989919384========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Right, managed to forget about dmesg.boot (my laptop stopped creating it for some reason, probably fumblefingeredness on my part, so I forgot that it normally existed...). Attached are dmesg.boot and kernel config. I should also mention that I've reproduced this with a number of configurations, including - removal and kernel disabling of the STB 4-Com on IRQ4; - disabling and removal of the AC97 - use of a Tekram DC390F with IBM 10GB SCSI drive instead of the ATA66 - use of a 3Com 3C905B in place of the NetGear FA311 I also had this problem, although not as severely, on a machine based on a Tyan Tomcat III motherboard with dual Pentium200s (non-MMX). I do *not* see any problem if I use the "emergency holographic shell" from the 4.2-RELEASE boot floppy; but I *do* see it if I use the 4.2-RELEASE GENERIC kernel. I also see it if I only boot singleuser. -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] --==========1989919384========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="dmesg.boot" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: "/var/run/dmesg.boot" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.boot"; size=3344 Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RC #7: Sun Apr 1 10:05:44 EDT 2001 root@rushlight.rem.cmu.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/RUSHLIGHT Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (751.71-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "AuthenticAMD" Id =3D 0x622 Stepping =3D 2 = Features=3D0x183f9ff AMD Features=3D0xc0400000 real memory =3D 268435456 (262144K bytes) config> q avail memory =3D 258478080 (252420K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02e2000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02e209c. VESA: v2.0, 4096k memory, flags:0x1, mode table:0xc028c842 (1000022) VESA: Matrox Graphics Inc. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on = pci0 pci1: on pcib2 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd000-0xd00f at device 7.1 on = pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 7.2 irq 0 pcm0: port 0xe400-0xe403,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdcff irq 5 = at device 7.5 on pci0 pci0: at 8.0 irq 10 sis0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem = 0xd8000000-0xd8000fff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 sis0: Ethernet address: 00:02:e3:04:c9:e3 miibus0: on sis0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x15 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 4 flags 0x5 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A sio2 at port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 4 flags 0x5 on isa0 sio2: type 16550A sio3 at port 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 4 flags 0x5 on isa0 sio3: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding = enabled, default to deny, logging disabled ad0: 12949MB [26310/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66 acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a --==========1989919384========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=RUSHLIGHT Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: "/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/RUSHLIGHT" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=RUSHLIGHT; size=3311 machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident RUSHLIGHT maxusers 32 #makeoptions DEBUG=3D-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options INET #InterNETworking options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable transparent proxy support options IPDIVERT #divert sockets options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=3D15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU options USER_LDT options PQ_CACHESIZE=3D512 options PPS_SYNC device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? options VESA # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x015 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 flags 0x005 irq 4 device sio2 at isa? port IO_COM3 flags 0x005 irq 4 device sio3 at isa? port IO_COM4 flags 0x005 irq 4 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device ppi # Parallel port interface device # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these = NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device vn # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # Sound driver device pcm --==========1989919384==========-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 17:13:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2067037B720 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 72496 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Apr 2001 00:13:32 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:13:32 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Mike Smith Cc: "Jason T. Luttgens" , 'Doug Hardie' , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "'David W. Chapman Jr.'" Subject: Re: Network performance question Message-ID: <20010404021332.F71262@mail.webmonster.de> References: <000001c0bbc9$cc97b990$0200010a@lucky> <200104022315.f32NFO702856@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104022315.f32NFO702856@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 04:15:23PM -0700 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith(msmith@freebsd.org)@2001.04.02 16:15:23 +0000: > It's a reasonable assumption; it sounds like you haven't tuned the > FreeBSD box very well, so it's doing a lot of disk I/O. > > > I tried the test under FreeBSD with the NetGear card too - in addition to > > the 3COM. It's kinda strange, but when using the NetGear card and outputting > > tcpdump to /dev/null there were no problems, not even many interface errors > > (where as writing to a file causes the network to go down and tons of > > interface errors about halfway through the capture). > > This sounds like the NetGear card has issues with other PCI bus activity. > what exactly is the mainboard hardware? in which slot is the card? i recall having had severe problems on some bx tyan board with 5 pci slots. when i used slot 1 or 5 i had dropped interrupts since they were shared with i tink the onboard scsi. using the middle 3 slots the problem was gone. linux seems to handle interrupt sharing on pci differently from feebsd. /k -- > Experiments must be reproducible; they should all fail in the same way. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 17:25:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A94437B72B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 72985 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Apr 2001 00:25:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:25:43 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: Rasputin , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC Message-ID: <20010404022543.G71262@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010330184214.W53982-300000@hq1.tyfon.net> <002f01c0b958$076b3160$0404a8c0@smalweer.nl> <20010401031242.A70366@mail.webmonster.de> <05a301c0ba63$6e9bb240$931576d8@inethouston.net> <20010402021613.A75063@mail.webmonster.de> <20010402094316.A91958@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <004b01c0bb8d$4d124640$931576d8@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <004b01c0bb8d$4d124640$931576d8@inethouston.net>; from dwcjr@inethouston.net on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 10:55:12AM -0500 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i did not check the apache port for quite a while, but last time i tested it it had a rather hairy configuration ;-) apache on my boxes usually is very stripped down, only the stuff really needed with php with dso support, etc. are the ports (apache, apache-php, ...) built as dso? can configure them that apache's base path is not /usr/local but /opt/apache? /k David W. Chapman Jr.(dwcjr@inethouston.net)@2001.04.02 10:55:12 +0000: > > * Karsten W. Rohrbach [010402 01:17]: > > > it seems. i installed the patch (my apache is NOT built from ports) and > > > The patch has been merged into the port now, so perhaps cvsupping > > and rebuilding the port will fix it. > > If not, let the maintainer know. > > He's not using the ports, just this patch, probably should be using the > ports though. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- > knowledge is power. power corrupts. study hard, be evil KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 18: 8:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hub.lovett.com (hub.lovett.com [216.60.121.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C44837B725; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:08:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ade@lovett.com) Received: from ade by hub.lovett.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14kbmp-000IjM-00; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 20:08:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:08:39 -0500 From: Ade Lovett To: ports@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: GNOME 1.4 Message-ID: <20010403200839.O65245@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FYI, GNOME 1.4 was released today. Sadly, with the magnitude of the changes (some 15,000 lines of diff now), and the timeline for the ports freeze (April 10th), I am not going to be able to get this in 4.3-RELEASE :( However, I should have final patches available for testing within the next couple of days, and will send out a note asking for testers who are prepared to completely trash their machines :) -aDe [FreeBSD/GNOME maintainer] -- Ade Lovett, Austin, TX. ade@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 18:30:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C0A37B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id SAA15112 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:30:54 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda15110; Tue Apr 3 18:30:42 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f341UXL01733 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdxN1731; Tue Apr 3 18:30:03 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f341U2r04078 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104040130.f341U2r04078@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdBH4037; Tue Apr 3 18:29:31 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SOLVED: vmstat, iostat, top, and systat don't show CPU % Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:29:30 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It appears the real time clock (IRQ 8) would intermittently stop working. Replacing the motherboard resolved the problem. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 19:27:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1474F37B722; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:27:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id TAA15303; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:27:15 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda15300; Tue Apr 3 19:26:55 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f342Qnb01961; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdWp1959; Tue Apr 3 19:26:05 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f342Q4M26821; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104040226.f342Q4M26821@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdU26783; Wed Apr 4 02:25:07 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: msmith@FreeBSD.ORG (Mike Smith), lucky@lansters.com, bc979@lafn.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, dwcjr@inethouston.net Subject: Re: Network performance question In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Apr 2001 16:12:44 PDT." <200104032312.QAA09912@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 19:25:06 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200104032312.QAA09912@freeway.dcfinc.com>, "Chad R. Larson" writes: > As I recall, Mike Smith wrote: > > It's a reasonable assumption; it sounds like you haven't tuned the > > FreeBSD box very well, so it's doing a lot of disk I/O. > > I seem to recall that Linux does async disk writes out of the box. You are correct. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 20:22:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0450C37B720 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:22:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10695; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:22:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200104040322.UAA10695@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Question re make release In-Reply-To: <200104031115.NAA48576@lurza.secnetix.de> from Oliver Fromme at "Apr 3, 1 01:15:07 pm" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:22:40 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Oliver Fromme wrote: > "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) Sha-boom, sha-boom! -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 3 22:41:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0888637B71A for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:40:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f345exU16515 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:41:04 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: 4.3-RC & Stallion EasyIO-4. no way Jose. Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:43:24 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well I have to report that there is no way that I can get the EasyIO-4 board to talk to a modem properly. The board compiles into the kernel. It's using the CirriusLogic CL-CD1400-10PC-G chipset. ISA card. The devices make ok into the /dev directory. Connecting a modem and running Kermit produces no response from the modem apart from the DTR light coming on. ie; Kermit> set line /dev/cue0 [ dtr light comes on ] So something is talking to the line. Kermit> set carrier-watch off Kermit> c and here it simply hangs. No response at all from the modem. Ctrl\+C eventually hangs up the line. I've tried as far as I can tell to ensure that the cabling is correct - been there done that - So what is it and how do I tell? I have actually got no way of telling if it's the driver partially working, or if it's a cabling problem after all. Anyway, I thought I'd let everyone know. If you plan on using an EasyIO-4 (or 8) then you may just find yourself with problems. cheers Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 0:20:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailx.info.com.ph (mailx.info.com.ph [203.172.11.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3007C37B719 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:20:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@foresightone.com) Received: from it_manager.info.com.ph ([202.163.209.16]) by mailx.info.com.ph (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f347FQA14140 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:15:26 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010404151646.00a26ec0@localhost> X-Sender: f1si/pop.info.com.ph@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:20:30 +0800 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Foresight One Solutions, Inc." Subject: make buildworld bombs at /usr/src/usr.bin/less Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Reference: FBSD 4.2-Stable (CVS Update 04 April 2001) hello! I am new at this, however when I tried to "make buildworld", I got this error... ===> usr.bin/less rm -f less.1 less main.o screen.o brac.o ch.o charset.o cmdbuf.o command.o decode.o edit.o filename.o forwback.o help.o ifile.o input.o jump.o line.o linenum.o lsystem.o mark.o optfunc.o option.o opttbl.o os.o output.o position.o prompt.o search.o signal.o tags.o ttyin.o version.o less.1.gz less.1.cat.gz rm: less: is a directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src/usr.bin/less. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src/usr.bin/less. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src. ... Could anybody point me towards the right direction? Thanks in advance Ramon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 0:29:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outside2.enea.se (outside2.enea.se [192.36.1.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76A237B720 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:29:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malj@enea.se) Received: from freja.enea.se (freja [172.16.1.3]) by outside2.enea.se (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA24566 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:17:01 +0200 Received: from enea.se (blofeldt.enea.se [172.16.232.81]) by freja.enea.se (Switch-2.0.1/Switch-2.0.1) with ESMTP id f347RWD28957 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:27:33 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3ACAC0B4.AA71735E@enea.se> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 08:35:33 +0200 From: Mattias Ljunggren X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 0:37:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vinea.teaser.fr (vinea.teaser.net [213.91.2.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB7737B727 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:37:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from at@teaser.net) Received: by vinea.teaser.fr (Postfix, from userid 213) id ADFD2B8BF; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:37:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:37:26 +0200 From: Alain Thivillon To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts Message-ID: <20010404093726.B46227@vinea.teaser.fr> References: <200104031414.KAA13159@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104031414.KAA13159@world.std.com>; from kwc@world.std.com on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 10:14:45AM -0400 X-Organization: France Teaser X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RC Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kenneth W Cochran écrivait (wrote) : > Agreed, I think it has more to do with the nameserver. But > maybe Yet Another Netscape Problem? Any idea(s) as to a fix? This is because answer of DNS server comes back after the resolver timeout : query socket is closed and kernel log a connection attempt. > Or should I Just Live With It? Unless you want to recompile libc with a higher timeout (see /usr/include/resolv.h) (and as Netscape is a a.out binary, you should recompile libc of FreeBSD 2.2.8). -- Alain Thivillon -+- at@teaser.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 0:55:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.popsite.net (smtp.popsite.net [216.126.128.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D870737B71E for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:55:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@twwells.com) Received: from twwells.com (01-058.051.popsite.net [64.24.21.58]) by smtp.popsite.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A99FF5C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:54:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bill by twwells.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14ki5p-000KKo-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 03:52:41 -0400 Subject: possible problem with dc driver To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:52:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: "T. William Wells" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I noticed that my network performance seemed sluggish. So, today I decided to do some real testing. Machine G: CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (350.80-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x580 Stepping = 0 Features=0x8001bf AMD Features=0x80000800 dc0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xdf000000-0xdf0000ff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:e2:ff:24 miibus0: on dc0 dcphy0: on miibus0 dcphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto Machine P: CPU: AMD-K5(tm) Processor (116.93-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x524 Stepping = 4 Features=0x21bf AMD Features=0x0 dc0: port 0xf000-0xf0ff mem 0xffae7c00-0xffae7fff irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:03:6d:19:3b:ec miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto Copying a big file from P to G worked without trouble and at a reasonable speed (6.3mbps). But copying from G to P was slow as molasses -- also in the past I have had lockups on P when receiving lots of data on it. So I decided to concentrate there. What I did was set up tcpdump on both ends and did an scp from a file on G to a file on P. I noticed in the tcpdump output that every packet that P saw, G also saw. However, there were packets that G saw that P did not and all of those were packets sent by G. For amusement, I tried swapping P's cable for another cable. No effect. I have another machine on the network, a '486. Testing with it established that the problem isn't with G. Clearly, P is losing packets at some point from the ethernet card inward. Given that it also sometimes hangs on receipt of lots of data, I'm betting on a driver bug. Though, it's possible that there is a hardware problem that causes the packet loss which also triggers a driver bug that wouldn't happen with good hardware. Anyway, this is as far as I've got and I don't know where to proceed from here. I've appended the kernel configuration of P and its dmesg.boot. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RC #3: Tue Apr 3 00:37:56 EDT 2001 root@twwells.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/P Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 116933696 Hz CPU: AMD-K5(tm) Processor (116.93-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x524 Stepping = 4 Features=0x21bf AMD Features=0x0 real memory = 29360128 (28672K bytes) avail memory = 25690112 (25088K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02f1000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02f109c. npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 1.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x4000-0x400f,0x7f1fb9f4-0x7f1fb9f7,0xc7ff02f8-0xc7ff02ff,0xeafa3ee0-0xeafa3ee3,0x90eefdf8-0x90eefdff irq 0 at device 1.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 dc0: port 0xf000-0xf0ff mem 0xffae7c00-0xffae7fff irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:03:6d:19:3b:ec miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: at 20.0 irq 0 pca0 at port 0x40 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: on ppbus0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 fd1: <1200-KB 5.25" drive> on fdc0 drive 1 pcm0: at port 0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38f irq 5 drq 0 on isa0 IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging limited to 1000 packets/entry by default DUMMYNET initialized (010124) ad0: 6149MB [13328/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO4 machine i386 cpu I486_CPU cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident P maxusers 64 options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options DUMMYNET options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel options INET #InterNETworking options IPDIVERT #divert sockets options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about dropped packets options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=1000 #limit verbosity options IPSTEALTH #support for stealth forwarding options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options KTRACE #kernel tracing options NO_F00F_HACK #Not a Pentium! options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options PROCFS #Process filesystem options SCSI_DELAY=2000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING device isa device pci device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 options SC_KERNEL_CONS_ATTR="(FG_WHITE|BG_BLACK)" options SC_KERNEL_CONS_REV_ATTR="(FG_YELLOW|BG_BLACK)" options SC_NORM_ATTR="(FG_WHITE|BG_BLUE)" options SC_NORM_REV_ATTR="(FG_YELLOW|BG_BLUE)" device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering device miibus # MII bus support device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device pcm pseudo-device bpf 4 # Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device gzip #Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device pty 64 # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device speaker #Play IBM BASIC-style noises out your speaker pseudo-device splash # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 1:49:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.info.com.ph (smtp2.info.com.ph [203.172.11.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918D437B71D for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:49:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nitronarc@iname.com) Received: from it_manager.iname.com ([202.163.209.16]) by smtp2.info.com.ph (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f348Zet19518 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:35:41 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010404164822.00a0e060@localhost> X-Sender: ajpuyat/203.127.225.12@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:48:29 +0800 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Ramoncito P. Puyat" Subject: make buildworld bombs at /usr/src/usr.bin/less Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Reference: FBSD 4.2-Stable (CVS Update 04 April 2001) hello! I am new at this, however when I tried to "make buildworld", I got this error... ===> usr.bin/less rm -f less.1 less main.o screen.o brac.o ch.o charset.o cmdbuf.o command.o decode.o edit.o filename.o forwback.o help.o ifile.o input.o jump.o line.o linenum.o lsystem.o mark.o optfunc.o option.o opttbl.o os.o output.o position.o prompt.o search.o signal.o tags.o ttyin.o version.o less.1.gz less.1.cat.gz rm: less: is a directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src/usr.bin/less. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src/usr.bin/less. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src. ... Could anybody point me towards the right direction? Thanks in advance Ramon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 1:49:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.umr.edu (mrelay.cc.umr.edu [131.151.1.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E913237B718; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:49:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrezny@umr.edu) Received: from Beast (Aven18570L@d-131-151-189-36.dynamic.umr.edu [131.151.189.36]) via SMTP by mrelay.cc.umr.edu (8.9.3/R.4.20) id DAA21587; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:49:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200104040849.DAA21587@mrelay.cc.umr.edu> From: "Matthew Rezny" To: "net@freebsd.org" , "stable@freebsd.org" , "isp@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 02:49:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Matthew Rezny" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Intel Gigabit NIC problem Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm posting this to a few lists that I hope I might get some info from. I have been using the fxp driver for quite a while with good results, so when it came time to get some gigabit stuff I looked and saw the wx driver. I decided it would be convenient to stick with Intel for several reasons. So now I have a handful of Compaq NC3131 boards with NC6132 modules. The NC3131 is a 64bit PCI card with a DEC 21154 (later revs have a chip stamped Intel but its id is the same as the DEC) PCI bridge and a couple Intel 82558 chips. It also has an expansion connector. The NC6132 module plugs onto this card to add a gigabit fiber port. The docs say its an Intel 82542 chip, though the actual chip on the boards are stamped LSI. I put them in a few machines here. A couple are x86 boxes with Windows 2000 and/or Linux, for which the Intel drivers work and they interconnect fine. The other is an Alpha running FreeBSD 4.2. The fxp and wx drivers load fine, but I have problems when I connect the gigabit port to another one of the machines. The FreeBSD machine repeated prints "wx0: receive sequence error" while the other machine is overwhelmed with 100% kernel/system CPU usage such that its barely responsive. Does anyone have any idea what's going on, if there's any hope of fixing this, and what the solution would be? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 1:57:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from normanet.org (ACaen-101-2-1-7.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9238F37B71A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michel.boucey@normanet.fr) Received: (qmail 31365 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2001 08:59:41 -0000 Received: from by nux2.normanet.org with qmail-scanner-0.94 (. Clean. Processed in 0.066664 secs); 04/04/2001 10:59:41 Received: from daemon.normanet.org (192.168.1.114) by normanet.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 2001 08:59:40 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:06:35 +0000 (GMT) From: michel.boucey@normanet.fr X-Sender: mic@daemon.normanet.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: kdump Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I never can't make buildworld 'cause the compilation of kdump fails : cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace -I/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../.. -c /usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/kdump.c sh /usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/mkioctls /usr/include > ioctl.c awk: newline in string #include Soci=E9t=E9 Norm@Net +33 2 31 27 13 45 < To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 2:14:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C378237B729; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:14:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f349EIg49829; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:14:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:14:17 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: michel.boucey@normanet.fr, Jordan Hubbard Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: MFC request (was: Re: kdump) Message-ID: <20010404121417.C47513@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: michel.boucey@normanet.fr, Jordan Hubbard , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from michel.boucey@normanet.fr on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:06:35AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:06:35AM +0000, michel.boucey@normanet.fr wrote: > Hi ! > > I never can't make buildworld 'cause the compilation of kdump fails : > The attached patch should fix this. The patch simply accumulates all my fixes to the `mkioctls' script. You case is covered by rev 1.20. If Jordan permits, I will MFC this for 4.3. # cvs log -Nbwru mkioctls RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/kdump/mkioctls,v Working file: mkioctls head: 1.20 branch: locks: strict access list: keyword substitution: kv total revisions: 24; selected revisions: 3 description: ---------------------------- revision 1.20 date: 2001/03/27 16:15:25; author: ru; state: Exp; lines: +2 -2 Traverse ${DESTDIR}/usr/include in lexographical order. This should fix problems reported recently on -current. ---------------------------- revision 1.18 date: 2000/08/02 07:37:44; author: ru; state: Exp; lines: +2 -1 Unbreak world build by adding the necessary include. Submitted by: Nickolay Dudorov ---------------------------- revision 1.17 date: 2000/08/01 08:15:06; author: ru; state: Exp; lines: +2 -2 Fix an off-by-nine error when building a list of includes. ============================================================================= -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=p Index: mkioctls =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/kdump/mkioctls,v retrieving revision 1.15.2.1 diff -u -p -r1.15.2.1 mkioctls --- mkioctls 2000/07/15 07:29:29 1.15.2.1 +++ mkioctls 2001/04/04 09:07:01 @@ -19,10 +19,10 @@ fi # XXX netipx conflicts with netns (leave out netns). ioctl_includes=` cd $1 - find * -name '*.h' -follow | + find -s * -name '*.h' -follow | egrep -v '^(netns)/' | xargs egrep -l \ -'^#[ ]*define[ ]+[A-Za-z_][A-Za-z0-0_]*[ ]+_IO[^a-z0-9_]' | +'^#[ ]*define[ ]+[A-Za-z_][A-Za-z0-9_]*[ ]+_IO[^a-z0-9_]' | sed -e 's/^/#include /' ` @@ -38,6 +38,7 @@ BEGIN { print "#include " print "#include " print "#include " + print "#include " print "#include " print "#include " print "#include " --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 2:15:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F18A37B724 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:15:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A61E3D201DA; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 02:15:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3ACAE61E.516B561D@urx.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 02:15:10 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ramoncito P. Puyat" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld bombs at /usr/src/usr.bin/less References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010404164822.00a0e060@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Ramoncito P. Puyat" wrote: > > Reference: FBSD 4.2-Stable (CVS Update 04 April 2001) > > hello! > > I am new at this, however when I tried to "make buildworld", I got this > error... > > ===> usr.bin/less > rm -f less.1 less main.o screen.o brac.o ch.o charset.o cmdbuf.o command.o > decode.o edit.o filename.o forwback.o help.o ifile.o input.o jump.o line.o > linenum.o lsystem.o mark.o optfunc.o option.o opttbl.o os.o output.o > position.o prompt.o search.o signal.o tags.o ttyin.o version.o less.1.gz > less.1.cat.gz > rm: less: is a directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/usr/src/usr.bin/less. Are you running as root. You also have a strange location for /usr/src. Kent > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/usr/src/usr.bin/less. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/usr/src/usr.bin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /home/usr/src. > > ... Could anybody point me towards the right direction? > > Thanks in advance > > Ramon > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 2:18:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D894837B729 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:18:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14kjQi-000Cte-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:18:20 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f349IKu22042 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:18:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:18:20 +0100 From: Rasputin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: [karsten@rohrbach.de: Re: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC] Message-ID: <20010404101820.A21981@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Forwarded message from "Karsten W. Rohrbach" ----- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:25:43 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: Rasputin , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache-1.3.19 segfaulting on FreeBSD-4.3 RC i did not check the apache port for quite a while, but last time i tested it it had a rather hairy configuration ;-) apache on my boxes usually is very stripped down, only the stuff really needed with php with dso support, etc. are the ports (apache, apache-php, ...) built as dso? can configure them that apache's base path is not /usr/local but /opt/apache? Built apache13+modssl and mod_pelr straight after, went in sweet as a nut. So DSO is enabled, yes. I'm pretty usre you can set PREFIX on the 'make install' line to set a different install directory if you like. man ports for more info. -- > knowledge is power. power corrupts. study hard, be evil KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 2:43:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5097437B71D for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Florian.Heigl@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 20923 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2001 09:43:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO masterblaster) (212.94.227.236) by mail.gmx.net (mp004-rz3) with SMTP; 4 Apr 2001 09:43:15 -0000 Message-ID: <006b01c0bcec$684303e0$050aa8c0@blutmeer.de> From: "Florian Heigl" To: Subject: buildworld breaks with 4.3-RC2 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:48:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have some problems here. It's the first time I try to make buildworld, so it's easily possible that I'm doing something wrong, but I thought I'd rather ask. - The box is a P133 with 64MB and IDE disks. - Currently the box is running FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #1 - I want to upgrade it in -stable, so to 4.3-RC2 - I installed the src distributions from ftp2.de.freebsd.org - I cvsupped /usr/src from cvsup2.de.freebsd.org, and got the following error - To check I also tried it from cvsup.freebsd.org, too, but w/o changes - I have no make.conf or anything I'd consider special make buildworld [...] ===> usr.bin/kdump rm -f .depend mkdep -f .dePend -a -I/mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace -I/mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/ kdump/../.. -I/usr/obj/mnt/usr/src/i386/usr/include /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/kdump.c ioctl.c /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../ktrace/subr.c In file included from ioctl.c:87: /usr/obj/mnt/usr/src/i386/usr/include/sys/memrange.h:18: warning: `MDF_ACTIVE' redefined /usr/obj/mnt/usr/src/i386/usr/include/pccard/cardinfo.h:81: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from ioctl.c:99: /usr/obj/mnt/usr/src/i386/usr/include/sys/wormio.h:102: warning: `CDRIOCBLANK' redefined /usr/obj/mnt/usr/src/i386/usr/include/sys/cdrio.h:59: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from ioctl.c:127: /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/dpt/dpt.h:860: warning: `EATAUSRCMD' redefined /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/asr/osd_unix.h:267: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/dpt/dpt.h:861: warning: `DPT_SIGNATURE' redefined /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/asr/osd_unix.h:271: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/dpt/dpt.h:862: warning: `DPT_NUMCTRLS' redefined /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/asr/osd_unix.h:276: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/dpt/dpt.h:863: warning: `DPT_CTRLINFO' redefined /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/asr/osd_unix.h:278: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/dpt/dpt.h:864: warning: `DPT_SYSINFO' redefined /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/asr/osd_unix.h:284: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/dpt/dpt.h:865: warning: `DPT_BLINKLED' redefined /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/dev/asr/osd_unix.h:290: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from ioctl.c:155: /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_hdr.h:51: opt_pcvt.h: No such file or directory In file included from ioctl.c:155: /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_hdr.h:91: i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_conf.h: No such file or directory In file included from ioctl.c:155: /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_hdr.h:95: dev/kbd/kbdreg.h: No such file or directory /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_hdr.h:96: dev/kbd/atkbdcreg.h: No such file or directory /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_hdr.h:106: i386/isa/isa_device.h: No such file or directory /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_hdr.h:112: i386/isa/icu.h: No such file or directory /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_hdr.h:120: i386/isa/isa.h: No such file or directory In file included from ioctl.c:155: /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_hdr.h:164: warning: `KB_OTHER' redefined /usr/obj/mnt/usr/src/i386/usr/include/sys/kbio.h:47: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /mnt/usr/src/usr.bin/kdump/../../sys/i386/isa/pcvt/pcvt_hdr.h:250: #error "Supported keyboard scancode sets are 1 and 2 only (for now)!!!" mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 [...] I'm quite cluessless about what to do now. Regards, Florian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 4:18:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uno.mnl.com (uno.mnl.com [63.97.246.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C362737B726 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:18:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bdutton@uno.mnl.com) Received: (qmail 42207 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Mar 2001 18:51:35 -0000 Message-ID: <20010328185135.42206.qmail@uno.mnl.com> References: In-Reply-To: From: "Bradley W. Dutton" To: Jon Nathan Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: httpsd in free(): warning: chunk is already free. Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:51:35 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Are you using any caching modules with php, BwareCache or APC? I noticed BwareCache was doing it on one of my machines. Brad Jon Nathan writes: > hello, > > i'm running apache 1.3.19 on freebsd 4.3-RC cvsupped 03/23/01. apache > was built by hand with php4.0.4pl1 and apache_1.3.19+ssl_1.42. in the > parent server error log, i am getting thousands of the following > message: > > httpsd in free(): warning: chunk is already free. > httpsd in free(): warning: chunk is already free. > > occasionally it will say "page is already free." instead of chunk. > > am i correct in assuming that this means httpsd uses freebsd's libc > and that the free() function from libc is reporting this warning > message? > > how should i go about trying to fix it? it fills up my logfile > partition - yesterday i had a 730MB error_log. > > i had this same problem on freebsd 3.4-release as well. > > here is some info: > > ijon@froody:~# uname -a > FreeBSD froody.rupture.net 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Sat Mar 24 > 04:52:09 GMT 2001 > jon@froody.rupture.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RUPTURE i386 > jon@froody:~# /web/bin/httpsd -l > Compiled-in modules: > http_core.c > mod_env.c > mod_log_config.c > mod_mime.c > mod_negotiation.c > mod_status.c > mod_include.c > mod_autoindex.c > mod_dir.c > mod_cgi.c > mod_asis.c > mod_imap.c > mod_actions.c > mod_userdir.c > mod_alias.c > mod_access.c > mod_auth.c > mod_setenvif.c > apache_ssl.c > mod_php4.c > suexec: disabled; invalid wrapper /web/bin/suexec > jon@froody:~# cat /work/apache_1.3.19/a > ./configure --with-layout=web > --activate-module=src/modules/php4/libphp4.a > jon@froody:~# cat /work/php-4.0.4pl1/a > ./configure --with-mysql=/usr/local --with-apache=../apache_1.3.19 \ > --enable-track-vars --prefix=/usr/local --with-gd \ > --with-imap=/usr/local/imap > jon@froody:~# > > > a search turned up this page: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=gnu%2F7821 > > which refers to a similar problem with free(). i have no idea if it's > related/helpful though. > > > > > -jon > > -- > Jon Nathan > jon@rupture.net > http://www.rupture.net/~jon/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 7:35: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winnie.fit.edu (fit.edu [163.118.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710CC37B728 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kruptos@netzero.net) Received: from netzero.net (rm305w-b.campbell.fit.edu [163.118.216.112]) by winnie.fit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02868 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ACB31BB.13923774@netzero.net> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 10:37:47 -0400 From: Kevin Brunelle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Non-Immediate Printer Issues. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey guys, I understand that this is way to late in the release cycle to even start thinking about this issue, but I want you to know about it. And if you have any ideas about it -- I would appreciate your thoughts on what could be causing the problem. If you are really working your bum off to make this next release the best possible and completely bug-free and can't find the time to respond or think about this till after the 15th, please feel free to ignore it until your queue is a little less full. BTW: I have been tracking stable and build about once every three days, and I have had no issues yet! Keep up the great work. This problem has existed for a while, and I don't consider it fatal. Just really scary the first time it happens to you. When my printer {Cannon BJC 6000} runs out of paper it will sometimes freeze the whole system while it busy-waits [I assume] for more paper to be inserted. Nothing will work, at least in X (again I forgot to try and get to the console), until more paper is inserted. Than the system just goes on its merry way without a word. Now, if this happened every time I ran out of paper I would consider this a pretty large problem. But it apparently is based on the phase of the moon or something as obscure. I am no closer now to figuring out what is causing this than the last time I posted this. I am resending this message because I did not get any response at all. If this is a wrong place to bring it up, I will submit it using GNATS. I just thought you guys would want to know. If you need any more information I am willing to help where I can. But please don't consider this urgent. While I would appreciate a response of some type, I would much rather have 4.3 be the best possible release. But if you need a quick break from the immediate issues and don't want to get out of the mindset -- here is a little problem for you to think about. Kevin Brunelle --- Lost interest? It's so bad I've lost apathy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 8:28:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tp.databus.com (p101-46.acedsl.com [160.79.101.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C27737B725 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:28:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barney@tp.databus.com) Received: (from barney@localhost) by tp.databus.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f34FRvb41976; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:27:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from barney) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:27:57 -0400 From: Barney Wolff To: "T. William Wells" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible problem with dc driver Message-ID: <20010404112757.A41882@tp.databus.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bill@twwells.com on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:52:41AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you checked for duplex mismatch? Sure smells that way to me. Barney Wolff On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:52:41AM -0400, T. William Wells wrote: > I noticed that my network performance seemed sluggish. So, today > I decided to do some real testing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 8:45:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4858B37B720 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16525; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200104041545.IAA16525@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts In-Reply-To: <20010404093726.B46227@vinea.teaser.fr> from Alain Thivillon at "Apr 4, 2001 09:37:26 am" To: at@rominet.net (Alain Thivillon) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > Kenneth W Cochran _crivait (wrote) : > > > Agreed, I think it has more to do with the nameserver. But > > maybe Yet Another Netscape Problem? Any idea(s) as to a fix? > > This is because answer of DNS server comes back after the resolver > timeout : query socket is closed and kernel log a connection attempt. Does anyone see a huge descrepancy in these two contants: named/ns_defs.h:#define RETRY_TIMEOUT 45 br1.reply.net:root {176}# grep -i timeout /usr/include/resolv.h #define RES_TIMEOUT 5 /* min. seconds between retries */ Our systems log 10 of thousands of these UDP port 53 vain connections, and now I see clearly why. If your not running a local named you only give a remote query 5 seconds, yet the remote named will try for 45 seconds to get you an answer... blech!!! IMHO RES_TIMEOUT should be >> RETRY_TIMEOUT. Or at least RES_TIMEOUT should reflect the way that named works as far as it's own retries of getting data: /* * Compute retry time for the next server for a query. * Use a minimum time of RETRYBASE (4 sec.) or twice the estimated * service time; * back off exponentially on retries, but place a 45-sec. * ceiling on retry times for now. (This is because we don't hold a reference * on servers or their addresses, and we have to finish before they time out.) */ Ie retries go at 4, 8, 16, and 32 seconds, then we hit the 45 second wall. I am going to try a libc with RES_TIMEOUT set at 16 and see what it does for the rate of log messages.... Either way, that 5 second RES_TIMEOUT has got to be placing an unneeded load on our nameservers, due to the fact that the resolver gives up before named does :-(. > > Or should I Just Live With It? > > Unless you want to recompile libc with a higher timeout (see > /usr/include/resolv.h) (and as Netscape is a a.out binary, you should > recompile libc of FreeBSD 2.2.8). Thats just what I am going to do, thanks for pointing me at resolv.h :-) -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 9:12:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alto.i-cable.com (alto.i-cable.com [210.80.60.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EEC37B724 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisfung@opendir.org) Received: from opendir.org ([61.18.144.148]) by alto.i-cable.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00167 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:12:59 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <3ACB47F3.E6570327@opendir.org> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 00:12:35 +0800 From: Chris Organization: Chrisland X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make installworld error code 70 at libcom_err.so.2 References: <200104031405.f33E5Xx64538@cwsys.cwsent.com> <3AC9DBE1.116B1507@opendir.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (re-sent; previous one seems lost) Chris wrote: > > Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > > Disregard my previous reply, too much endorphin. > > > > Did you by chance build this on another machine with a different > > processor perhaps? Do you by chance have CPUTYPE specified in > > make.conf on the other machine? > > > > Hi, > > I built world in a faster machine (Machine A) and am trying to install > in a slower machine (Machine B). I will try to install it in Machine A > if that helps to solve this out. But... seems it is related to "strip" > and "kernel", isn't it? I don't have CPUTYPE in make.conf in both > machines. > > Thanks. > > Chris Hi, I installed on Machine A successfully. So what's the problem in machine B? Ar yes, I have different processors in 2 machines. Do I have to specify B's CPU when using A to do the buildworld? Thanks. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 9:35:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sgi04-e.std.COM (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8A737B720 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:35:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA251227; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00043; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:35:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200104041635.MAA00043@world.std.com> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 11:46:09 2001 >From: "Rodney W. Grimes" >Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts >To: at@rominet.net (Alain Thivillon) >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:45:12 -0700 (PDT) >Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > >[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] >> Kenneth W Cochran _crivait (wrote) : >> >> > Agreed, I think it has more to do with the nameserver. But >> > maybe Yet Another Netscape Problem? Any idea(s) as to a fix? >> >> This is because answer of DNS server comes back after the resolver >> timeout : query socket is closed and kernel log a connection attempt. > >Does anyone see a huge descrepancy in these two contants: >named/ns_defs.h:#define RETRY_TIMEOUT 45 >br1.reply.net:root {176}# grep -i timeout /usr/include/resolv.h >#define RES_TIMEOUT 5 /* min. seconds between retries */ > >Our systems log 10 of thousands of these UDP port 53 vain connections, >and now I see clearly why. If your not running a local named you only But I *do* run a local named, cache-only though. But discounting that, shouldn't the resolver be getting that from /etc/hosts anyway? (/etc/host.conf is "as-installed," hosts followed by bind.) >give a remote query 5 seconds, yet the remote named will try for 45 >seconds to get you an answer... blech!!! > >IMHO RES_TIMEOUT should be >> RETRY_TIMEOUT. > >Or at least RES_TIMEOUT should reflect the way that named works as >far as it's own retries of getting data: >/* > * Compute retry time for the next server for a query. > * Use a minimum time of RETRYBASE (4 sec.) or twice the estimated > * service time; * back off exponentially on retries, but place a 45-sec. > * ceiling on retry times for now. (This is because we don't hold a reference > * on servers or their addresses, and we have to finish before they time out.) > */ > >Ie retries go at 4, 8, 16, and 32 seconds, then we hit the 45 second >wall. I am going to try a libc with RES_TIMEOUT set at 16 and see >what it does for the rate of log messages.... > >Either way, that 5 second RES_TIMEOUT has got to be placing an unneeded >load on our nameservers, due to the fact that the resolver gives up >before named does :-(. > >> > Or should I Just Live With It? >> >> Unless you want to recompile libc with a higher timeout (see >> /usr/include/resolv.h) (and as Netscape is a a.out binary, you should >> recompile libc of FreeBSD 2.2.8). > >Thats just what I am going to do, thanks for pointing me at resolv.h :-) > >-- >Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net Interesting... So this is appearing to not be a problem with named/bind, Netscape or firewall/wrapper config, but something about the resolver?... Perhaps something that has "slipped through the cracks" over time? -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 9:36:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A13637B718 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f34Gaaw53399; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:36:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:36:36 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Cc: Subject: SCSI HDD problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. On one machine I changed today an Adaptec 2940UW with Adaptec 2949U2W. Both controllers worked with FreeBSD in the same server long time before, but with several different harddrivedisks. Last week we changed a machine's drives and I got a spare IBM DDRS 39130D 8,5 GB LVD disk. This disk is now attached to the Adaptec 2940U2W controller. The box is a FreeBSD 4.3-RC2 SMP box. The kernel starts the normal way, but when initializing the SCSI bus there occurs an error, a lot of errors about 'untagged' statements and several 'SCB 3 3 4 ...' statements occur. I can not dump this, it's to fast on the screen. End of this procedure is a reboot of the kernel. I tried a GNERERIC kernel and tried to start a single user mode session because I think there is a problem with the tagged queuing command cache of the disks 9I would like to disable it, but it seems to be impossible). On the other hand, maybe the controller is damaged but it worked before well with other LVD disks (IBM DNES ...). Is there a trick to start the SCSI system without enabling tagged queuing command caches ? Oliver -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 9:53:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.popsite.net (smtp.popsite.net [216.126.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E645637B727 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@twwells.com) Received: from twwells.com (02-111.051.popsite.net [64.24.21.111]) by smtp.popsite.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7635082F for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:52:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bill by twwells.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14kqWW-0008VR-00; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 12:52:48 -0400 Subject: Re: possible problem with dc driver To: barney@tp.databus.com (Barney Wolff) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010404112757.A41882@tp.databus.com> from "Barney Wolff" at Apr 04, 2001 11:27:57 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: "T. William Wells" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Have you checked for duplex mismatch? Sure smells that way to me. > Barney Wolff I'm not sure how to check for this. However, if it should show up in the ifconfig: dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:03:6d:19:3b:ec media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none it's not there. So if I need to check for it, how would I go about it? Descend to DOS and run the setup disk that came with the card? FWIW, the card is as it came from the box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 9:55:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E98237B725 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16666; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200104041655.JAA16666@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts In-Reply-To: <200104041635.MAA00043@world.std.com> from Kenneth W Cochran at "Apr 4, 2001 12:35:22 pm" To: kwc@world.std.com (Kenneth W Cochran) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 11:46:09 2001 > >From: "Rodney W. Grimes" > >Subject: Re: Strange localhost NS look attempts > >To: at@rominet.net (Alain Thivillon) > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:45:12 -0700 (PDT) > >Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > > >[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > >> Kenneth W Cochran _crivait (wrote) : > >> > >> > Agreed, I think it has more to do with the nameserver. But > >> > maybe Yet Another Netscape Problem? Any idea(s) as to a fix? > >> > >> This is because answer of DNS server comes back after the resolver > >> timeout : query socket is closed and kernel log a connection attempt. > > > >Does anyone see a huge descrepancy in these two contants: > >named/ns_defs.h:#define RETRY_TIMEOUT 45 > >br1.reply.net:root {176}# grep -i timeout /usr/include/resolv.h > >#define RES_TIMEOUT 5 /* min. seconds between retries */ > > > >Our systems log 10 of thousands of these UDP port 53 vain connections, > >and now I see clearly why. If your not running a local named you only > > But I *do* run a local named, cache-only though. But > discounting that, shouldn't the resolver be getting that > from /etc/hosts anyway? (/etc/host.conf is "as-installed," > hosts followed by bind.) local or remote named, the situation should be the same, just the IP address of the vain UDP 53 connections will be 127.0.0.1 for a local server, and X.X.X.X for a remote server. The code works the same either way. I don't know why your talking about /etc/hosts, that shouldn't have any data in it anyway, except perhaps localhost (and you don't need that if you have your DNS setup correctly). root {194}# host localhost localhost.reply.net has address 127.0.0.1 root {196}# cat /etc/host.conf # $FreeBSD: src/etc/host.conf,v 1.6 1999/08/27 23:23:41 peter Exp $ # First try the /etc/hosts file #hosts # Now try the nameserver next. bind # If you have YP/NIS configured, uncomment the next line # nis -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 10:22:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694A937B71A; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f34HLuM86919; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:21:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:21:56 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Weekly FAQ changes mail Message-ID: <20010404182156.C86363@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, Thanks to some hard work by Robert Drehmel, I plan on posting something similar to the following to the -questions and -stable mailing lists once a week. For the sake of this example I've included updates to the FAQ made since the beginning of March. Ordinarily this would just include the previous week's updates. Comments? N FreeBSD FAQ Updates The following changes have been made to the FreeBSD FAQ since 2001-03-01: Added questions: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Why is my ipfw(8) fwd rule to redirect a service to another machine not= working? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#IPFW-FWD Why can't I unset the schg file flag? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#UNSETTING-SCHG Why does it take so long to connect to my computer via ssh(1) or telnet= (1)? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#CONNECTION-DELAY I updated the sources, now how do I update my installed ports? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#PORTS-UPDATE When I mount a CDROM, all non-English characters in filenames show up a= s ?. http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#CDROM-UNICODE-FILENAMES Where can I find a free FreeBSD account? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#FREE-ACCOUNT What's this UID 0 toor account? Have I been compromised? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT What is securelevel? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#SECURELEVEL Questions that have changed: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D Does FreeBSD support SLIP and PPP? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#SLIP-PPP-SUPPORT Last change: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1= /books/faq/book.sgml?rev=3D1.160&content-type=3Dtext/x-cvsweb-markup Are there FreeBSD IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channels? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#IRC Last change: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1= /books/faq/book.sgml?rev=3D1.163&content-type=3Dtext/x-cvsweb-markup Books on FreeBSD http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#BOOKS Last change: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1= /books/faq/book.sgml?rev=3D1.162&content-type=3Dtext/x-cvsweb-markup I tried to update by system to the latest -STABLE, but got -RC or -BETA= ! What's going on? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#RELEASE-CANDIDATE Last change: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1= /books/faq/book.sgml?rev=3D1.148&content-type=3Dtext/x-cvsweb-markup My mouse has a fancy wheel. Can I use it in X? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#X-AND-WHEEL Last change: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1= /books/faq/book.sgml?rev=3D1.158&content-type=3Dtext/x-cvsweb-markup Is the documentation available in other formats, such as plain text (AS= CII), or Postscript? http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#DOC-FORMATS Last change: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1= /books/faq/book.sgml?rev=3D1.150&content-type=3Dtext/x-cvsweb-markup This is a weekly service. Updates will be posted to the FreeBSD -questio= ns and -stable mailing lists sometime every Monday. As always, you can read the complete FAQ at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/ --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrLWDMACgkQk6gHZCw343VFVACglGJAui2WFcxb9r4wQKLMrvQE Z7kAn0iBWmIzh1LGc9NR31ArraX8YfPm =KYSm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JwB53PgKC5A7+0Ej-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 10:51:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D112D37B720 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:51:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: from ler-freebie.iadfw.net (ler-freebie.iadfw.net [206.66.13.221]) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.12.0.Beta5/8.12.0.Beta5/20010318/$Revision: 1.18 $) with SMTP id f34HpcaS005578 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:51:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) From: Larry Rosenman Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 17:51:39 GMT Message-ID: <20010404.17513900@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> Subject: Re: KERN/26224 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20010402.14390700@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> References: <20010402.14390700@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2; Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I noticed someone picked up the core tarball. Has anyone gotten a clue = as to what's going on with this?=20 I'd appreciate any clue by fours that are hanging around.=20 I'm willing to instrument or anything else that would help. LER --=20 Larry Rosenman, Sr. Network Engineer, Internet America, Inc. Phone: +1 214-861-2571, FAX: +1 214-861-2663 E-Mail: ler@airmail.net US Mail: 350 N. St. Paul, Suite 3000, Dallas, TX 75201 US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 4/2/01, 9:39:07 AM, Larry Rosenman wrote regarding=20 KERN/26224: > Can one of the kernel hackers look at PR kern/26224 and tell me what e= lse > y'all need to find the problem? > This is driving me nuts. > Thanks, > Larry Rosenman > (aka ler@airmail.net) > -- > Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler/= > Phone: +1 972 414 9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org= > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 US > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 11:21: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from daconcepts.dyndns.org (wks-166-129-114.kscable.com [24.166.129.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F69837B730 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:21:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from natedac@kscable.com) Received: from localhost (natedac@localhost) by daconcepts.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f34IDmq04988 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:13:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from natedac@kscable.com) X-Authentication-Warning: daconcepts.dyndns.org: natedac owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:13:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Nate Dannenberg X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Silo overflows In-Reply-To: <20010403182701.A82069@telocity.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Corey G. wrote: > With FreeBSD 4.3RC1 I am also seeing quite a few silo overflow messages > as well. I never did notice or see these before. I have identical > hardware as with previous releases using an external Sportster 56K > modem. > > sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 57) > sio0: 1 more silo overflow (total 58) > sio0: 3 more silo overflows (total 61) I've been seeing these as well, and I'm using 4.3-RC. In my case, they are disrupting communication with another machine attached to my Serial Port, making it difficult for that machine to send valid PPP packets, at least during the negotiation phase. Every time it fails, it happens that one of these "silo overflows" has just occurred. -- /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~___~~~~~\ | natedac@kscable.com //Z@|___ | | http://home.kscable.com/natedac |'(__ [_< | \_C64/C128_-_What's_*YOUR*_hobby?__\___|____/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 11:49:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boromir.vpop.net (dns1.vpop.net [206.117.147.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2255F37B71F; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mreimer@vpop.net) Received: from vpop.net ([209.102.16.48]) by boromir.vpop.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f34Imln72065; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mreimer@vpop.net) Message-ID: <3ACB6C90.750FF100@vpop.net> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 11:48:48 -0700 From: Matthew Reimer Organization: VPOP Technologies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org, scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Possibly SCSI-related hang Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One of our boxes has been hanging, apparently in connection with some SCSI parity errors which appear in the logs before the hangs. This machine is running -stable from around March 4, with two disks da1 and da2 comprising a vinum mirror. The parity errors all pertain to da2, which is on its own controller: ahc0: port 0x1400-0x14ff mem 0xf4100000-0xf4100fff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 aic7896/97: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0x1800-0x18ff mem 0xf4101000-0xf4101fff irq 11 at device 12.1 on pci0 aic7896/97: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs fxp0: port 0x1080-0x10bf mem 0xf4000000-0xf40fffff,0xf4102000-0xf4102fff irq 10 at device 14.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:fb:26:e6 ahc2: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xf4103000-0xf4103fff irq 5 at device 16.0 on pci0 aic7870: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ... sa0 at ahc2 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 35003MB (71687340 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) ch0 at ahc2 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 ch0: Removable Changer SCSI-2 device ch0: 3.300MB/s transfers ch0: 8 slots, 1 drive, 1 picker, 0 portals da2 at ahc1 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 35003MB (71687340 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4462C) When the box hangs, we are able to break into the debugger; below are two traces I got while the machine was hung (trace, continue, trace): db> trace siointr1(c164d400,ce08df64,c020ef46,c164d400,ce080010) at siointr1+0xf2 siointr(c164d400,ce080010,1887,2,2) at siointr+0xb Xfastintr4(c163f400,81) at Xfastintr4+0x16 ahc_platform_intr(c163f400,6c0820,4faf8,bfbffdc0,bfbfc78c) at ahc_platform_intr+ 0x11e intr_mux(c0a35960,0,2f,2f,2f) at intr_mux+0x1d Xresume11() at Xresume11+0x2b --- interrupt, eip = 0x2828836f, esp = 0xce08dfe0, ebp = 0xbfbfc78c --- db> trace siointr1(c164d400,ce08df18,c020ef46,c164d400,10) at siointr1+0xf2 siointr(c164d400,10,183e,27,0) at siointr+0xb Xfastintr4(c163f400,ce08df48) at Xfastintr4+0x16 ahc_handle_seqint(c163f400,81) at ahc_handle_seqint+0x19 ahc_platform_intr(c163f400,6c0820,4faf8,bfbffdc0,bfbfc78c) at ahc_platform_intr+ 0x11e intr_mux(c0a35960,0,2f,2f,2f) at intr_mux+0x1d Xresume11() at Xresume11+0x2b --- interrupt, eip = 0x2828836f, esp = 0xce08dfe0, ebp = 0xbfbfc78c Are these traces consistent with the recently fixed vinum deadlock? Below are the errors that appeared in the logs before the hangs: Apr 2 09:06:39 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 5 1 88 10 0 Apr 2 09:06:39 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0 Apr 2 09:06:39 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): SCSI parity error Apr 2 09:06:41 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 2 4b 3 b8 0 0 10 0 Apr 2 09:06:41 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0 Apr 2 09:06:41 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): SCSI parity error Apr 2 09:06:42 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 0 bd 1 a8 0 0 10 0 Apr 2 09:06:42 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0 Apr 2 09:06:42 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): SCSI parity error Apr 2 09:07:10 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 0 c2 1 88 0 0 10 0 Apr 2 09:07:10 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0 Apr 2 09:07:10 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): SCSI parity error Apr 2 09:07:11 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 1 28 1 e8 0 0 10 0 Apr 2 09:07:11 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0 Apr 2 09:07:11 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): SCSI parity error Apr 2 09:07:13 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 0 bd 3b 38 0 0 80 0 Apr 2 09:07:13 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0 Apr 2 09:07:13 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): SCSI parity error Apr 2 09:07:24 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 0 bd 3c 88 0 0 80 0 Apr 2 09:07:24 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0 Apr 2 09:07:24 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): SCSI parity error Apr 2 09:50:03 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 0 38 1 88 0 0 10 0 Apr 2 09:50:03 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0 Apr 2 09:50:03 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): SCSI parity error Apr 2 09:56:04 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): parity error detected in Data-in phase. SEQADDR(0x8a) SCSI Apr 2 09:56:05 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 bc 4a 82 0 0 4 0 Apr 2 09:56:05 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:48,0 Apr 2 09:56:05 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): Initiator detected error message received Apr 2 10:01:04 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): parity error detected in Data-in phase. SEQADDR(0x89) SCSI Apr 2 10:01:04 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 2 e8 3e 48 0 0 80 0 Apr 2 10:01:04 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:48,0 Apr 2 10:01:04 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): Initiator detected error message received Apr 2 12:19:40 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 3 89 1 d8 0 0 10 0 Apr 2 12:19:40 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0 Apr 2 12:19:40 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): SCSI parity error Apr 2 12:25:03 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 2 ce 1 e8 0 0 10 0 Apr 2 12:25:03 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0 Apr 2 12:25:03 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): SCSI parity error Apr 2 12:27:34 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 0 bd 3e 48 0 0 80 0 Apr 2 12:27:34 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND asc:47,0 Apr 2 12:27:34 ring /kernel: (da2:ahc1:0:2:0): SCSI parity error At this point I told vinum not to use da2 any more (vinum stop -f fatmirror.p1.s0); predictably, since then no parity errors have occurred and the kernel has not hung. I ran "dd bs=65536 if=/dev/da2e of=/dev/null" which completed successfully, reading all 36G with no errors. Questions: 1. Should the kernel hang because of parity errors? 2. What is causing the hang: a bug in the SCSI code, or vinum, or ...? 3. Do parity errors indicate SCSI bus problems? 4. Might these parity errors indicate that da2 is bad? 5. Is it possible for a bad SCSI device to affect other devices on the bus? About eight months ago da2 used to be on the same controller with da0 and da1, but da0 and da1 started having strange problems ("swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer" on da0 where swap is, and "timed out while idle" on da1). Installing a new LVD cable didn't help, but moving da2 to its own bus did (but now we get parity errors on da2's bus). Thanks for any help you can give. Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 12:24:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from histidine.utmb.edu (histidine.utmb.edu [129.109.59.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07CF37B730 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:24:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bdodson@scms.utmb.EDU) Received: (from bdodson@localhost) by histidine.utmb.edu (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f34JOFm00465; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:24:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bdodson) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:24:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200104041924.f34JOFm00465@histidine.utmb.edu> From: "M. L. Dodson" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ulpt-attached PS printer keeps going offline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My usb printer keeps going offline. This appears to have started a couple of weeks ago, but I can't pin the time down more precisely than that. The symptom is that a message similar to this: Apr 4 13:28:43 histidine /kernel: ulpt0: offline comes up after anything other than a tiny print job. A power cycle of the printer fixes things. The printer is a Hewlett Packard LaserJet 2100M with 8MB of memory and PostScript. It is interfaced with: Hewlett Packard HP JetDirect J4135A, rev 1.10/1.00 It prints OK with a parallel cable. Any pointers to debugging this will be appreciated. (I should also point out the Red Herring alert at the bottom of this message.) Bud Dodson The hardware: A Dell Precision 410 wksta, dual PII 450s, running RC from a cvsup which finished about Mar 30 09:40 CST. dmesg (a ulpt-interfaced printer configuration which displays the symptoms): Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Fri Mar 30 10:59:09 CST 2001 bdodson@valine.utmb.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HISTIDINE Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (448.62-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183fbff real memory = 268427264 (262136K bytes) config> q avail memory = 257658880 (251620K bytes) Changing APIC ID for IO APIC #0 from 0 to 2 on chip Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0398000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc039809c. Preloaded elf module "agp.ko" at 0xc03980ec. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard IOAPIC #0 intpin 19 -> irq 2 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xec000000-0xefffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 16 -> irq 13 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 13 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xdce0-0xdcff irq 2 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ulpt0: Hewlett Packard HP JetDirect J4135A, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2, iclass 7/1 Timecounter "PIIX" frequency 3579545 Hz chip0: port 0x850-0x85f at device 7.3 on pci0 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xdc00-0xdc7f mem 0xfe000000-0xfe00007f irq 2 at device 17.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:4f:6b:c3:2d miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pcib2: at device 19.0 on pci0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 18 -> irq 16 pci2: on pcib2 ahc0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xfafff000-0xfaffffff irq 16 at device 10.0 on pci2 aic7890/91: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfaffe000-0xfaffefff irq 16 at device 14.0 on pci2 aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3b0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port pcm0: at port 0x534-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1,0 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! ad0: 6149MB [12495/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 ad1: 6149MB [12495/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using UDMA33 afd0: 96MB [96/64/32] at ata1-slave using PIO0 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-CCS device sa0: 3.300MB/s transfers da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a cd0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) +++++++++ Red Herring alert! I'm including this only because I did it to try to debug the problem; it does not seem to be related to the problem at hand. A search of the mailing list archives reveals a somewhat similar set of symptoms involving a ulpt-interfaced printer. This was (tentatively) ascribed to the usb controller and the ethernet card (a fxp) sharing a pci interrupt. I turned off the motherboard 3COM 3C905B and plugged in a pci 3C905C (which reshuffled the irq assignments). This did not cure the problem: the printer went offline after the first local print job. -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 12:25:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C083537B719 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 9738 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Apr 2001 19:26:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:26:08 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: "T. William Wells" Cc: Barney Wolff , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: possible problem with dc driver Message-ID: <20010404212608.D7631@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010404112757.A41882@tp.databus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bill@twwells.com on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:52:48PM -0400 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG T. William Wells(bill@twwells.com)@2001.04.04 12:52:48 +0000: > > Have you checked for duplex mismatch? Sure smells that way to me. > > Barney Wolff > > I'm not sure how to check for this. However, if it should show up > in the ifconfig: > > dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:03:6d:19:3b:ec > media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ the answer is right there on some chipsets 10baseT fdx is not supported, dunno about this card specifically. > supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none > > it's not there. So if I need to check for it, how would I go about > it? Descend to DOS and run the setup disk that came with the > card? FWIW, the card is as it came from the box. to be sure do ifconfig dc0 inet netmask media \ mediaopt full-duplex where mediatype is 100baseTX or 10baseT/UTP > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- > If it ain't broke, overclock it! KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 12:56:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lila.inti.gov.ar (lila.inti.gov.ar [200.10.161.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7A837B728 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:56:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: from iib005.iib.unsam.edu.ar ([200.3.113.15] helo=mail.inti.gov.ar ident=fernan) by lila.inti.gov.ar with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 14ktEM-0002U5-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:46:14 -0300 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:54:40 -0400 From: Fernan Aguero To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: network not working after initial install Message-ID: <20010404165440.A1396@iib005.inti.gov.ar> Reply-To: fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 59 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have just intalled FreeBSD for the first time (FreeBSD-4.2 from December 2000). Apparently there are some problems with the network setup. I cannot access other hosts in my network. I think the problem is the configuration of my 10-BaseT Ethernet Card (PCI, NE2000, Realtek 8029). Looking at dmesg I've found the following lines: config> en ed0 No such device: ed0 Invalid command or syntax. Type '?' for help. config> po ed0 0x280 No such device: ed0 Invalid command or syntax. Type '?' for help. There are a lot of lines similar to these: config> di sn0 config> di lnc0 config> di ie0 config> di fe0 config> di cs0 config> di bt0 config> di adv0 config> ir edo 10 config> iom ed0 0xd8000 config> f ed0 0 config> en ata0 config> po ata0 0x1f0 config> ir ata0 14 .. and goes on ... somewhere later the following line appear: pci0: (vendor=0x10ec, dev=0x8029) at 14.0 irq 11 (which i guess is my eth card, just because the 8029 matches the model number) The output of ifconfig -a is: faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif1: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif2: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif3: flags=8010 mtu 1280 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 I know that the hardware and network are OK, because I had Linux running before installing FreeBSD. Any ideas would be appreciated. Fernan -- Fernan Aguero Bioinformatics IIB-UNSAM fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar ICQ 100325972 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 13: 8:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uce55.uchaswv.edu (uce55.uchaswv.edu [12.4.161.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A8C37B71B for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:08:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mace_nathan@uchaswv.edu) Received: from nathan.uchaswv.edu ([172.16.33.110]) by uce55.uchaswv.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA25580 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: nmace85@yahoo.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: question about scsi emulation Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:16:16 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040415161601.00641@nathan.uchaswv.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i've been told that freebsd-stable doesn't support scsi-emulation, which i need to get my cd-burner to work. is this true? if not, how can i get it to work? if it is true, does anyone know when there will be support for it? thanks nathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 13:17:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h000.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 580FD37B71C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:17:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otterr@telocity.com) Received: (cpmta 27649 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2001 13:16:51 -0700 Received: from dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com (HELO zoso) (216.227.91.85) by smtp.telocity.com (209.228.33.206) with SMTP; 4 Apr 2001 13:16:51 -0700 X-Sent: 4 Apr 2001 20:16:51 GMT From: "Otter" To: , Subject: RE: question about scsi emulation Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:08:38 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c0bd43$09ab65a0$1401a8c0@zoso> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <01040415161601.00641@nathan.uchaswv.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG why do you need scsi emulation? if you have atapi, try burncd. make sure you have the appropriate kernel support so your drive is found before attempting writing to any cd's. this can be checked by issuing the command "dmesg | grep cd". man burncd for your options and for tips, see http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/cdrw.html -Otter > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > nmace85@yahoo.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:16 PM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: question about scsi emulation > > > i've been told that freebsd-stable doesn't support > scsi-emulation, which i > need to get my cd-burner to work. is this true? if not, how > can i get it to > work? if it is true, does anyone know when there will be > support for it? > thanks > > nathan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 14:22:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snapper.lansters.com (21-155-124-64.dsl.lan2wan.com [64.124.155.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA4737B732; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) Received: from lucky (lucky.lansters.com [10.1.0.2]) by snapper.lansters.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id f34LMLh57632; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:22:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lucky@lansters.com) From: "Jason T. Luttgens" To: "'Karsten W. Rohrbach'" , "'Mike Smith'" Cc: "'Doug Hardie'" , , "'David W. Chapman Jr.'" Subject: RE: Network performance question Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:21:53 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c0bd4d$45acfc30$0200010a@lucky> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010404021332.F71262@mail.webmonster.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: Karsten W. Rohrbach [mailto:karsten@rohrbach.de] >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 8:14 PM >To: Mike Smith >Cc: Jason T. Luttgens; 'Doug Hardie'; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; >'David >W. Chapman Jr.' >Subject: Re: Network performance question > >what exactly is the mainboard hardware? in which slot is the card? >i recall having had severe problems on some bx tyan board with 5 pci >slots. when i used slot 1 or 5 i had dropped interrupts since they were >shared with i tink the onboard scsi. using the middle 3 slots the >problem was gone. linux seems to handle interrupt sharing on pci >differently from feebsd. ABIT BE6-II, in the slot marked PCI2 on the motherboard. This is the computer I was using to listen to the packets. The computer that is transmitting the packets is an ASUS P2B-D. After performing more testing at work and home, I am beginning to belive that what tcpreplay says it transmitted is not what was really transmitted (not that the listening machine is capturing everything either). I am in the process of trying to prove this. I'll post my findings as soon as I can figure anything out. Some of my testing at work revealed a strange thing. The 3COM card in a computer I have at work typically received 407-409 packets from another computer transmitting (a Sony VAIO laptop with builtin Intel Etherexpress Pro 10/100 card), then stopped seeing packets for some random number (usually less than 2000), receive 407-409 packets again, and repeat the cycle. Anyone know what that might mean? Thanks again for everyone's help and comments - eventually I will figure this out.... Jason > >/k > >-- >> Experiments must be reproducible; they should all fail in the same >way. >KR433/KR11-RIPE -- http://www.webmonster.de -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 15:52:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.popsite.net (smtp.popsite.net [216.126.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9C437B72B for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@twwells.com) Received: from twwells.com (02-067.051.popsite.net [64.24.21.67]) by smtp.popsite.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1051750834 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:52:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bill by twwells.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14kw7J-000Gjk-00; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 18:51:09 -0400 Subject: Re: possible problem with dc driver To: karsten@rohrbach.de (Karsten W. Rohrbach) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Cc: barney@tp.databus.com (Barney Wolff), stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010404212608.D7631@mail.webmonster.de> from "Karsten W. Rohrbach" at Apr 04, 2001 09:26:08 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: "T. William Wells" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > T. William Wells(bill@twwells.com)@2001.04.04 12:52:48 +0000: > the answer is right there > on some chipsets 10baseT fdx is not supported, dunno about this card > specifically. Doesn't matter -- the point is to make sure that both sides are not full duplex, which they aren't. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 15:52:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.popsite.net (smtp.popsite.net [216.126.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9ACA37B73C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:52:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@twwells.com) Received: from twwells.com (02-067.051.popsite.net [64.24.21.67]) by smtp.popsite.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A248E50834 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:52:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bill by twwells.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14kw6F-000Ghc-00; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 18:50:03 -0400 Subject: Re: possible problem with dc driver To: barney@tp.databus.com (Barney Wolff) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010404140222.A42396@tp.databus.com> from "Barney Wolff" at Apr 04, 2001 02:02:22 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: "T. William Wells" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > That ifconfig says you do NOT have full-duplex. What does the > thing you're connected to say? If it's a switch, either there's > a light or (if an expensive switch :) some command. If you > just have a crossover cable to the other machine, what does it say? > If you're connected to a hub rather than a switch, both machines > must not say full-duplex. They're connected by a hub. The other machine is also a FreeBSD box with a dc interface (but different card); the ifconfig's differ only in the IP address and MAC address. So, the problem isn't a duplex mismatch. Damn. :) I really didn't think it was anyway -- I can lock up the problem machine with bulk data transfers. So I really do think it's a driver problem. I suppose I ought to build a debugging kernel and see what I can break.... Do you think it might be worthwhile swapping the cards to see if the problem moves with the card or stays with the machine? This would be a bit of a pain for me to do, though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 16:31:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tp.databus.com (p101-46.acedsl.com [160.79.101.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47A537B507 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:31:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barney@tp.databus.com) Received: (from barney@localhost) by tp.databus.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f34NVDE43350; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:31:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from barney) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:31:13 -0400 From: Barney Wolff To: "T. William Wells" Cc: Barney Wolff , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: possible problem with dc driver Message-ID: <20010404193113.A43291@tp.databus.com> References: <20010404140222.A42396@tp.databus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bill@twwells.com on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 06:50:03PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If the machine actually locks up, rather than the transfer just running slowly while other things on the machine run normally, then it's either h/w or s/w on the machine itself. The full list of possibilities includes cables, the hub, the cards, the motherboards, the disk controllers, the disks. And of course, it might actually be a driver bug. To elminate the disks, either run ttcp (from ports) or make sure the file is cached and ftp it to /dev/null. You might also try moving the card to a different slot, where it doesn't share an irq with something else (if dmesg.boot shows that it does that). If you need to start swapping components, start with the cheapest and keep going until the problem is gone. Try to enjoy this :) Barney On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 06:50:03PM -0400, T. William Wells wrote: > > I really didn't think it was anyway -- I can lock up the problem > machine with bulk data transfers. So I really do think it's a > driver problem. > > I suppose I ought to build a debugging kernel and see what I can > break.... Do you think it might be worthwhile swapping the cards > to see if the problem moves with the card or stays with the > machine? This would be a bit of a pain for me to do, though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 17: 7: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CAB37B43E; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:06:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3506TG52369; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:06:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <002d01c0bc6d$2d558390$035778d8@sherline.net> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 17:06:02 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Jeremiah Gowdy Subject: Re: su change? Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, Kherry Zamore , Matthew Emmerton Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 03-Apr-01 Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > >> > if (!chshell(pwd->pw_shell) && ruid) >> > errx(1, "permission denied (shell)."); >> > >> > The only thing we need to prepend to this is a check to see if we are >> trying >> > to su to root, which we should allow regardless of the shell specified: >> >> I disagree. The root account is an account that needs to have the highest >> number of security checks present. > > Then make a point as to why root, when not having a valid shell, not being > able to log in is a useful security check in any way shape or form. So Last time I checked single-user was a shape. The real problem here is people changing root's shell. You shouldn't be logging in as root in the first place. I remember back in the 2.1.x and 2.2.x days when .cshrc actually used to yell at people if you logged in as root. Use sudo, supser, su2, or su -m instead. Root's login shell and login shell files should be kept simple and sane and not dinked with. This is a people problem with the administrators in question and hacking up su is not the right fix. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 17:15:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from narf.osd.bsdi.com (narf.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E66937B506; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:15:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from narf.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narf.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f350DCf44691; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:13:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200104050013.f350DCf44691@narf.osd.bsdi.com> To: michel.boucey@normanet.fr, Jordan Hubbard , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: MFC request (was: Re: kdump) In-Reply-To: Message from Ruslan Ermilov of "Wed, 04 Apr 2001 12:14:17 +0300." <20010404121417.C47513@sunbay.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 17:13:12 -0700 From: Jordan K Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Approved! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 17:27:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uce55.uchaswv.edu (uce55.uchaswv.edu [12.4.161.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33EC37B43E for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mace_nathan@uchaswv.edu) Received: from nathan.uchaswv.edu ([172.16.33.110]) by uce55.uchaswv.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA02497 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: nmace85@yahoo.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about scsi emulation Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:35:30 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <000201c0bd43$09ab65a0$1401a8c0@zoso> In-Reply-To: <000201c0bd43$09ab65a0$1401a8c0@zoso> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040420353000.00660@nathan.uchaswv.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday 04 April 2001 16:08, you wrote: > why do you need scsi emulation? if you have atapi, try burncd. make > sure you have the appropriate kernel support so your drive is found > before attempting writing to any cd's. this can be checked by issuing > the command "dmesg | grep cd". man burncd for your options and for > tips, see http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/cdrw.html > -Otter i tried xcdroast...thats what i always used before...but it says it needs scsi-emulation. bsd sees my cd-writer during bootup if that makes a difference nathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 17:48:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl [193.78.88.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8511E37B446 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from driehuis@playbeing.org) Received: from bh2.nl.compuware.com (unknown [172.16.17.82]) by bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EC08286; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:48:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from trashcan.nl.compuware.com ([172.16.16.52]) by bh2.nl.compuware.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 2127J1XT; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:48:21 +0200 Received: from c1111.nl.compuware.com (c1111.nl.compuware.com [172.16.16.36]) by trashcan.nl.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513D1145A4; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:48:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:48:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Bert Driehuis X-Sender: bertd@c1111.nl.compuware.com To: "Jason T. Luttgens" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Network performance question In-Reply-To: <000001c0bd4d$45acfc30$0200010a@lucky> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Jason T. Luttgens wrote: > To: 'Karsten W. Rohrbach' , > 'Mike Smith' > Cc: 'Doug Hardie' , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, > 'David W. Chapman Jr.' Please trim your cc list; I'd hazard that all people on their responded to you because they are on -stable to start with. > Some of my testing at work revealed a strange thing. The 3COM card in a > computer I have at work typically received 407-409 packets from another > computer transmitting (a Sony VAIO laptop with builtin Intel Etherexpress > Pro 10/100 card), then stopped seeing packets for some random number > (usually less than 2000), receive 407-409 packets again, and repeat the > cycle. Anyone know what that might mean? There is a known issue with the 3Com 3C905TX that causes a "problem" (dunno what the problem is) if the receive buffer fills beyond a certain percentage. I haven't looked at the xl driver, but it might be that you're hitting the bug and a watchdog timer unwedges the board (I seem to remember BSD/OS artificially limits the receive buffer *and* unwedges the card, but it's been years since I last went on a bughunt in that driver, before I switched to Intel 10/100 Pro B's). Cheers, -- Bert -- Bert Driehuis -- driehuis@playbeing.org -- +31-20-3116119 If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 17:50:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (dhcp.looksmart.com.au [202.53.47.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B02937B424 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:50:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f350o6k39575; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:50:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Message-Id: <200104050050.f350o6k39575@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Sergeant" To: nmace85@yahoo.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: question about scsi emulation X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.3 On freebsd/mysql Date: 04 Apr 2001 19:50:04 EST Reply-To: "Mark Sergeant" In-Reply-To: <01040415161601.00641@nathan.uchaswv.edu> References: <01040415161601.00641@nathan.uchaswv.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is no need for scsi emulation. Man burncd and be happy :) On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:16:16 -0400, nmace85@yahoo.com said: > i've been told that freebsd-stable doesn't support scsi-emulation, which i > need to get my cd-burner to work. is this true? if not, how can i get it to > work? if it is true, does anyone know when there will be support for it? > thanks > > nathan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- What this country needs is a good five cent nickel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 18:14: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f248.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EF037B43C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:14:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iridefree@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:14:02 -0700 Received: from 24.241.38.34 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 01:14:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.241.38.34] From: "Bryan Berch" To: nmace85@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about scsi emulation Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 21:14:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2001 01:14:02.0631 (UTC) FILETIME=[B375F170:01C0BD6D] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is an article this month at http://defcon1.org on the subject of burncd. >From: nmace85@yahoo.com >To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: question about scsi emulation >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:35:30 -0400 > >On Wednesday 04 April 2001 16:08, you wrote: > > why do you need scsi emulation? if you have atapi, try burncd. make > > sure you have the appropriate kernel support so your drive is found > > before attempting writing to any cd's. this can be checked by issuing > > the command "dmesg | grep cd". man burncd for your options and for > > tips, see http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/cdrw.html > > -Otter > > >i tried xcdroast...thats what i always used before...but it says it needs >scsi-emulation. bsd sees my cd-writer during bootup if that makes a >difference > >nathan > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 18:35:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web4303.mail.yahoo.com (web4303.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4384937B43F for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sloppyj123@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010405013553.5761.qmail@web4303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.191.173.225] by web4303.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 18:35:53 PDT Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:35:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Victor Subject: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet support To: FreeBSD Stable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I might be switching to FreeBSD and was wondering if the Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 PCMCIA card works. I have been doing reading, but many docs are severely outdated. I have an .iso of FreeBSD 4.2, and the installer hangs until I take the card out. That isn't a good sign. I was just wondering, if I install without the card, will I be able to put it in after? I need it for work. I'm pretty sure in Linux I use a tulip_cb.o driver. That might help. Any success, anyone? --Jason __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 18:47:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87A737B43E for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1A91BA91A; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:47:06 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: nmace85@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about scsi emulation Message-ID: <20010404204706.B17787@cec.wustl.edu> References: <000201c0bd43$09ab65a0$1401a8c0@zoso> <01040420353000.00660@nathan.uchaswv.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01040420353000.00660@nathan.uchaswv.edu>; from nmace85@yahoo.com on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 08:35:30PM -0400 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 08:35:30PM -0400, nmace85@yahoo.com wrote: > On Wednesday 04 April 2001 16:08, you wrote: > > why do you need scsi emulation? if you have atapi, try burncd. make > > sure you have the appropriate kernel support so your drive is found > > before attempting writing to any cd's. this can be checked by issuing > > the command "dmesg | grep cd". man burncd for your options and for > > tips, see http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/cdrw.html > > -Otter > > > i tried xcdroast...thats what i always used before...but it says it needs > scsi-emulation. bsd sees my cd-writer during bootup if that makes a > difference > > nathan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message xcdroast is a front end for cdrecord, which is a SCSI-burning app. I You'll never get that working with FreeBSD, unless you buy a SCSI burner. I'm not sure if burncd has any front ends available, but if not, you're stuck with a console. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 19:30:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.popsite.net (smtp.popsite.net [216.126.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6786137B443 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@twwells.com) Received: from twwells.com (02-067.051.popsite.net [64.24.21.67]) by smtp.popsite.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD7850838 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:29:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bill by twwells.com with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14kzWr-000M5Y-00; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 22:29:45 -0400 Subject: Re: possible problem with dc driver To: barney@tp.databus.com (Barney Wolff) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010404193113.A43291@tp.databus.com> from "Barney Wolff" at Apr 04, 2001 07:31:13 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: "T. William Wells" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Barney Wolff wrote: > If the machine actually locks up, rather than the transfer > just running slowly while other things on the machine run > normally, then it's either h/w or s/w on the machine itself. It had actually locked up. I've been daring my machine to lock up again by running some tests while writing this e-mail. :) So far, it's been behaving normally. That is, not locking up but the transfers are slow. [I got a crash!] > The full list of possibilities includes cables, the hub, > the cards, the motherboards, the disk controllers, the disks. > And of course, it might actually be a driver bug. I've eliminated the cables and hub as possibilities, by swapping things and using tests between various machines. > To elminate the disks, either run ttcp (from ports) or make > sure the file is cached and ftp it to /dev/null. Well, if memory serves, it was transfers to the machine that caused lockups. [Memory did not serve -- I made it fail by transferring from the machine.] My current tests have been with, and without, writing the file to disk. Still no locks, though I've definitely been getting losses. > You might also try moving the card to a different slot, where > it doesn't share an irq with something else (if dmesg.boot > shows that it does that). It doesn't. > If you need to start swapping components, start with the cheapest > and keep going until the problem is gone. There's only one swappable "component" -- the NIC. :) Everything else is on the motherboard. > Try to enjoy this :) Heh. I'm not a driver newbie (I've written a few) so I won't be lost. However, I'm really not looking forward to debugging a driver I didn't write. :) OTOH, the dc driver looks better than most.... ======== As my editorial notes said, I got it to crash. What I did was, on P (the machine with the failing NIC): while :; do scp /usr/tmp/bigfile G:/usr/tmp/bigfile; done and waited until the system froze. Occasionally, I noted that after a transfer, there was no output from the next scp. The system wasn't frozen; I could switch to another console and do a ps, to see that scp was waiting in [connec] (I think) state. It was possible to ^C out of that and re-enter the command to continue the test. After a bit of work, I got a coredump. BTW, the handbook is in error here; DDB panic followed by continue doesn't do the right thing. What I did was 'call panic(0)' but I wouldn't be surprised to discover there is a better way. Anyway, here's the relevant portion of the backtrace. (I've removed the nonsense relating to the control-alt-ESC that got me into the debugger.) #14 0xc019787b in dc_rxeof (sc=0xc095f000) at /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:2365 #15 0xc0197edf in dc_intr (arg=0xc095f000) at /usr/src/sys/pci/if_dc.c:2640 #16 0xc020aa92 in slow_copyin () #17 0xc015d248 in sosend (so=0xc3d03480, addr=0x0, uio=0xc420fed8, top=0x0, control=0x0, flags=0, p=0xc3fa73c0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket.c:585 #18 0xc015178c in soo_write (fp=0xc09dbd00, uio=0xc420fed8, cred=0xc0a69180, flags=0, p=0xc3fa73c0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_socket.c:81 #19 0xc014e3b1 in dofilewrite (p=0xc3fa73c0, fp=0xc09dbd00, fd=3, buf=0x8145004, nbyte=135088, offset=-1, flags=0) at /usr/src/sys/sys/file.h:163 #20 0xc014e26a in write (p=0xc3fa73c0, uap=0xc420ff80) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c:329 #21 0xc020c27d in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 134684360, tf_esi = -1077939264, tf_ebp = -1077939324, tf_isp = -1004470316, tf_ebx = 135088, tf_edx = 134682404, tf_ecx = 3, tf_eax = 4, tf_trapno = 0, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 672976284, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 642, tf_esp = -1077939368, tf_ss = 47}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1150 #22 0xc01ffe65 in Xint0x80_syscall () #23 0x804ef42 in ?? () #24 0x804c7aa in ?? () #25 0x804c111 in ?? () #26 0x804af05 in ?? () Suggestions as to where to go from here? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 19:32:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from s3.quintessential.com (s3.quintessential.com [209.98.180.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F13037B43C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:32:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wood@soundconcept.net) Received: (qmail 91889 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2001 03:20:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xyz.soundconcept.net) (63.225.150.153) by s3.quintessential.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2001 03:20:22 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: wood%soundconcept.net/soundconcept.net@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 21:32:39 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Brian D. Woodruff" Subject: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi gang - I just did a clean installation of FreeBSD 4.2 from the floppies and the Internet, and then proceeded to do a "make world". I installed the cvsup package (and then did a deinstall-reinstall; I've noticed that's necessary of late) and modified the stock stable-supfile to work with cvsup9.freebsd.org; though I made no other modifications to it. Most importantly; this line was not changed: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 When I went into the /usr/src directory and typed make world everything went as normal (I made a new kernel, too, using the steps in Lehey's book) but when I re-started the machine, I got FreeBSD 4.3-RC (BMEWORLD) #0: Wed Apr 4 20:48:05 CDT 2001 much to my surprise. I quickly learned that RC is for Release Candidate, which would inticate to me that it's somewhere between CURRENT and RELEASE, but nowhere near STABLE!! HELP! Here are my questions: 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I have been using? 2.) is this a mistake? If so, when will it be corrected? Thank you BDW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 19:35:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC0B37B505 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:35:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 1637A13615; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:35:44 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: "Brian D. Woodruff" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Message-ID: <20010404223544.A13450@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , "Brian D. Woodruff" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus>; from wood@soundconcept.net on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:32:39PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:32:39PM -0500, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > Here are my questions: >=20 > 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I have been using? > 2.) is this a mistake? If so, when will it be corrected? >=20 http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#RELEASE-CANDIDATE --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjrL2gAACgkQObaG4P6BelCwHgCfXLp0A0UvqJF4kgJKEDVN+ql2 UwkAnRiBZufC5lY1SAC0Ut8dzXNNRc7X =HOat -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 19:35:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailx.info.com.ph (mailx.info.com.ph [203.172.11.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C2D37B449 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nitronarc@iname.com) Received: from it_manager.iname.com ([202.163.209.16]) by mailx.info.com.ph (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f352TnA13093; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:29:49 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010405102344.00a35ec0@localhost> X-Sender: ajpuyat/203.127.225.12@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:34:54 +0800 To: The Babbler From: "Ramoncito P. Puyat" Subject: Re: make buildworld bombs at /usr/src/usr.bin/less Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3ACBCC21.4EFE80C3@babbleon.org> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010404151646.00a26ec0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:36 PM 4/4/01 -0400, you wrote: >Did you cvs update everything? That burned me the first time . . . you >can't select only some components. yes, i updated everything (src and ports dir), and did it twice the first time to make sure i got everything. >Also, >a directory? That's pretty odd. > >"Foresight One Solutions, Inc." wrote: > > yup, i just checked myself. /usr/src/usr.bin/less contains... .depend Makefile.common less Makefile defines.h minigzip ... just out of curiousity, i ran the make depend, make and make clean -> make depend (no errors) -> make (errors as follows) /../contrib/less -o less main.o screen.o brac.o ch.o charset.o cmdbuf.o command.o decode.o edit.o filename.o forwback.o help.o ifile.o input.o jump.o line.o linenum.o lsystem.o mark.o optfunc.o option.o opttbl.o os.o output.o position.o prompt.o search.o signal.o tags.o ttyin.o version.o -ltermcap /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open output file less: Is a directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src/usr.bin/less. (ran out of disk space, so src and ports are sym-linked in the /home partition) -> make clean (errors as follows) rm -f less.1 less main.o screen.o brac.o ch.o charset.o cmdbuf.o command.o decode.o edit.o filename.o forwback.o help.o ifile.o input.o jump.o line.o linenum.o lsystem.o mark.o optfunc.o option.o opttbl.o os.o output.o position.o prompt.o search.o signal.o tags.o ttyin.o version.o less.1.gz less.1.cat.gz rm: less: is a directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/usr/src/usr.bin/less. anyone have any ideas? TIA, Ramon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 19:39:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986C637B440 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:39:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.3/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id VAA27438 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:39:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <200104050239.VAA27438@aurora.sol.net> Subject: ntpd root exploit To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:39:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG See Bugtraq; hopefully fixes will be committed before 4.3R? -- ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 19:40:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CC037B42C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id A224B13615; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:40:48 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Joe Greco Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd root exploit Message-ID: <20010404224048.B13450@peitho.fxp.org> References: <200104050239.VAA27438@aurora.sol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104050239.VAA27438@aurora.sol.net>; from jgreco@ns.sol.net on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:39:26PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:39:26PM -0500, Joe Greco wrote: > See Bugtraq; hopefully fixes will be committed before 4.3R? Fixed a few hours ago in -current and RELENG_4. --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjrL2zAACgkQObaG4P6BelCcQACgmV5FO9T40oTBaC7hkL74tq3q LsEAn1Q6iJZC4b9J75hY/kTO5qIvW7K6 =xrpN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 20:26: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-34.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEED37B446 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:25:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Received: from browning.pennasoft.com (browning [192.168.168.11]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f353TJB23661 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:29:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:31:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: question about scsi emulation In-Reply-To: <200104050050.f350o6k39575@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 4 Apr 2001, Mark Sergeant wrote: > There is no need for scsi emulation. Man burncd and be happy :) cdrecord will also make you happy, and it worked fine on my SCSI CD-RW. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 20:56:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from access.inet.co.th (access.inet.co.th [203.151.127.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5D237B42C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:56:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from TruPPP0D162.inet.co.th (TruPPP0D162.inet.co.th [203.151.127.162]) by access.inet.co.th (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22249; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:56:31 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:05:10 +0700 (ICT) From: pirat X-Sender: pirat@radwaste.oaep.go.th To: "Brian D. Woodruff" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > Hi gang - > > I just did a clean installation of FreeBSD 4.2 from the floppies and the > Internet, and then proceeded to do a "make world". > > I installed the cvsup package (and then did a deinstall-reinstall; I've > noticed that's necessary of late) and modified the stock stable-supfile to > work with cvsup9.freebsd.org; though I made no other modifications to it. > Most importantly; this line was not changed: > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 > > When I went into the /usr/src directory and typed > > make world > > everything went as normal (I made a new kernel, too, using the steps in > Lehey's book) but when I re-started the machine, I got > > > FreeBSD 4.3-RC (BMEWORLD) #0: Wed Apr 4 20:48:05 CDT 2001 > > > much to my surprise. > > I quickly learned that RC is for Release Candidate, which would inticate to > me that it's somewhere between CURRENT and RELEASE, but nowhere near STABLE!! > > HELP! > > Here are my questions: > > 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I have been using? > 2.) is this a mistake? If so, when will it be corrected? > after cvsup do this grep '^BRANCH' /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh to see if you got a STABLE or just an RC version and you can later on make your own decision if to make world or did another cvsup. rgds, psr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 21:17:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dojo.tao.ca (tao.ca [198.96.117.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A570037B443 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:17:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anarcat@tao.ca) Received: by dojo.tao.ca (Postfix, from local user) id 2F1AE4E8E; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:17:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:17:23 -0500 From: anarcat To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. Message-ID: <20010404231722.A25165@dojo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Uptime: 10:47pm up 61 days, 33 min, 9 users, load average: 0.12, 0.10, 0.16 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. I need to share the experience I just had with a very particular crash. If any of you had similar experiences, please share. Critics and suggestions on procedure are welcome. I really don't know how to put this, but since we're in a code freeze and I'm running stable, if a few people witness this behavior, well... Anyways... A bit of background: FreeBSD shall.anarcat.yi.org 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #2: Wed Mar 14 18:50:48 EST 2001 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHALL i386 A few minutes ago, I was doing a few things at the same time on my machine. I was doing a make install clean in sysutils/[gcombust|gtoaster|xcdroast], copying /mnt/cdr to ~/cdr, and opening a ssh session to my shell account. Before I could get to a password prompt on the shell account, I didn't even had time to realize what's going on that my computer beeped and was back to the BIOS POST startup procedure. Bad. I was a bit distracted at the time it happened so I have no idea what happened exactly. When FreeBSd restarted, fsck wasn't able to fix everything automagically, so I had to run it from single-user mode. I had so much scrapped files that I interrupted the process at some point to restart it with "fsck -y". Things like UNREF DIR, LINK COUNT DIR, UNREF FILE, and all sort of evil warnings of the kind. Now my system seems to be running fine, but I did not run extensive tests. I do not have tripwire or any filesystem integrity checker and I have no clue on how I can figure out what was scrapped. I am unable to provide debug info as there was no panic, as far as I can tell. I can say, however, that there are 348 files in /usr/lost+found. Yay. All of which have file mod dates set before the crash, this morning, actually. But I have the following info: The "crash" has somehow been recorded in wtmp. last says: anarcat ttyp1 :0 Mer 4 avr 23:45 - 23:47 (00:01) reboot ~ Mer 4 avr 23:43=20 anarcat ttyp4 :1 Mer 4 avr 23:26 - crash (00:17) Oddly enough, dmesg was not record in /var/log/messages after bootup. Last thing I have there is: Apr 4 23:23:47 shall su: anarcat to root on /dev/ttyp2 Apr 4 23:24:47 shall su: anarcat to root on /dev/ttyp3 Apr 4 23:43:07 shall ntpd[223]: ntpd 4.0.99b Fri Mar 9 00:52:31 EST 2001 (1) Apr 4 23:43:07 shall ntpd[223]: using kernel phase-lock loop 2040 Where there should have been dmesg info somewhere in between. The 2 su's are my make install attempts before the crash. I really don't see what other info I could find on that. This morning's dmesg output follows.=20 My next step is to remake to world after a fresh cvsup, because from the stuff in lost+found, I lost a few files in /usr/src.=20 I read a few 'spontaneous reboots' threads before and I guess this comes to the same thing. Forgive and forget. "Probably a hardware problem". :) Anyways, if I have any fresh info on that, I'll keep the list informed, but as of now, just consider this mail as a friendly marker of a local apocalypse. Don't do as daddy does, boys and girls. Do backups. Often. You never know when the shit'll the fan. :) Dmesg output. Please note that the cd used for the copy was the scsi one. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #2: Wed Mar 14 18:50:48 EST 2001 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHALL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (167.05-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x543 Stepping =3D 3 Features=3D0x8001bf real memory =3D 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> dis sio2 config> q avail memory =3D 29335552 (28648K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc036a000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc036a09c. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 pci0: at 7.2 irq 11 chip1: port 0x5000-0x500f at device 7.3 on pci0 pci0: at 9.0 ahc0: port 0x6400-0x64ff mem 0xe1001000-0xe1001fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 aic7860: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=3D7, 3/255 SCBs vr0: port 0x6a00-0x6aff mem 0xe1002000-0xe10020ff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0 vr0: Ethernet address: 00:50:ba:64:e3:6a miibus0: on vr0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: on ppbus0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port pca0 at port 0x40 on isa0 joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0 sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 unknown: can't assign resources ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 29311MB [59554/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device=20 cd0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: cd present [279683 x 2048 byte records] The Anarcat. --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrL8dIACgkQ7uV99pHLOSIhiQCgmUOFeu5KITqkfKa99GD2fWcF DD0AmgOtkc3+nuBTG8Kn920id6J+OQkZ =kptr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 21:49:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from s3.quintessential.com (s3.quintessential.com [209.98.180.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93B5137B423 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:49:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wood@soundconcept.net) Received: (qmail 92789 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2001 05:37:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xyz.soundconcept.net) (63.225.150.153) by s3.quintessential.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2001 05:37:29 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404234810.020e2ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: wood%soundconcept.net/soundconcept.net@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:49:40 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Brian D. Woodruff" Subject: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC In-Reply-To: <20010404223544.A13450@peitho.fxp.org> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:35 PM 4/4/01 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:32:39PM -0500, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > > Here are my questions: > > > > 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I have been using? excellent answer to part 2 can anyone tell me how to get the STABLE version I want? I would rather be consistent across my servers than have some be one release past the others. Valid thinking or not, I would like to know how to do this with cvsup, if possible. Thanks! BDW > > 2.) is this a mistake? If so, when will it be corrected? > > > >http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#RELEASE-CANDIDATE > >-- >Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org >-------------------------------------------------------- >FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 22:27:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.lig.bellsouth.net (mail4.lig.bellsouth.net [207.203.120.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5681437B496 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fury@unixforever.net) Received: from damaged (adsl-78-132-242.btr.bellsouth.net [216.78.132.242]) by mail4.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id BAA11329; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002801c0bd91$517c92c0$0204a8c0@unixforever.net> From: "fury" To: "anarcat" , References: <20010404231722.A25165@dojo> Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:28:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First of all sorry about the quote, I'm in my makeshift emailer at the moment. Second, in response to your email, yes I have often received the same response. I have managed to fix it for now basically on blind luck. No it was NOT a hardware issue unlike many ppl stated, fact is, I have never figured it out. There was one machine effects, where not the same as the other *identical* machine. CVSup seemed to fix the spuratic one, but with the only machine differences being two network cards of the same brand and model, and in a series of serial numbers no less. First my suspect was the adaptech 39160, but no, I swapped the good with the bad and no luck. Then I tried a different video card, nope, different network cards, nope, memory nope. I essentially went through every peice of hardware in the machine including the motherboard, and power supply but not the seagate cheetah. Go figure, so I gave up on the list, but I will not do unto others that sound like the same situation as it was done unto me at that time. Even if this is insignifigant, at least you have a response, which is more than *I* got. But what I think it all came down to, was probably a bad CVSup tree that finally I just caught a good tree and after that all was well again. Maybe you have some enlightenment from this, maybe not. I sure hope so, at least *I* respond if I think its even close to relevant. -fury ----- Original Message ----- From: anarcat To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:17 PM Subject: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. Hi. I need to share the experience I just had with a very particular crash. If any of you had similar experiences, please share. Critics and suggestions on procedure are welcome. I really don't know how to put this, but since we're in a code freeze and I'm running stable, if a few people witness this behavior, well... Anyways... A bit of background: FreeBSD shall.anarcat.yi.org 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #2: Wed Mar 14 18:50:48 EST 2001 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHALL i386 A few minutes ago, I was doing a few things at the same time on my machine. I was doing a make install clean in sysutils/[gcombust|gtoaster|xcdroast], copying /mnt/cdr to ~/cdr, and opening a ssh session to my shell account. Before I could get to a password prompt on the shell account, I didn't even had time to realize what's going on that my computer beeped and was back to the BIOS POST startup procedure. Bad. I was a bit distracted at the time it happened so I have no idea what happened exactly. When FreeBSd restarted, fsck wasn't able to fix everything automagically, so I had to run it from single-user mode. I had so much scrapped files that I interrupted the process at some point to restart it with "fsck -y". Things like UNREF DIR, LINK COUNT DIR, UNREF FILE, and all sort of evil warnings of the kind. Now my system seems to be running fine, but I did not run extensive tests. I do not have tripwire or any filesystem integrity checker and I have no clue on how I can figure out what was scrapped. I am unable to provide debug info as there was no panic, as far as I can tell. I can say, however, that there are 348 files in /usr/lost+found. Yay. All of which have file mod dates set before the crash, this morning, actually. But I have the following info: The "crash" has somehow been recorded in wtmp. last says: anarcat ttyp1 :0 Mer 4 avr 23:45 - 23:47 (00:01) reboot ~ Mer 4 avr 23:43 anarcat ttyp4 :1 Mer 4 avr 23:26 - crash (00:17) Oddly enough, dmesg was not record in /var/log/messages after bootup. Last thing I have there is: Apr 4 23:23:47 shall su: anarcat to root on /dev/ttyp2 Apr 4 23:24:47 shall su: anarcat to root on /dev/ttyp3 Apr 4 23:43:07 shall ntpd[223]: ntpd 4.0.99b Fri Mar 9 00:52:31 EST 2001 (1) Apr 4 23:43:07 shall ntpd[223]: using kernel phase-lock loop 2040 Where there should have been dmesg info somewhere in between. The 2 su's are my make install attempts before the crash. I really don't see what other info I could find on that. This morning's dmesg output follows. My next step is to remake to world after a fresh cvsup, because from the stuff in lost+found, I lost a few files in /usr/src. I read a few 'spontaneous reboots' threads before and I guess this comes to the same thing. Forgive and forget. "Probably a hardware problem". :) Anyways, if I have any fresh info on that, I'll keep the list informed, but as of now, just consider this mail as a friendly marker of a local apocalypse. Don't do as daddy does, boys and girls. Do backups. Often. You never know when the shit'll the fan. :) Dmesg output. Please note that the cd used for the copy was the scsi one. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #2: Wed Mar 14 18:50:48 EST 2001 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHALL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (167.05-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> dis sio2 config> q avail memory = 29335552 (28648K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc036a000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc036a09c. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 pci0: at 7.2 irq 11 chip1: port 0x5000-0x500f at device 7.3 on pci0 pci0: at 9.0 ahc0: port 0x6400-0x64ff mem 0xe1001000-0xe1001fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 aic7860: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/255 SCBs vr0: port 0x6a00-0x6aff mem 0xe1002000-0xe10020ff irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0 vr0: Ethernet address: 00:50:ba:64:e3:6a miibus0: on vr0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: on ppbus0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port pca0 at port 0x40 on isa0 joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0 sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 unknown: can't assign resources ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad0: 29311MB [59554/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO3 Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: cd present [279683 x 2048 byte records] The Anarcat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 22:44:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272C037B50C; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:44:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (2288 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:43:17 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:43:17 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Kherry Zamore Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: su change? In-Reply-To: <005401c0bc63$7cb36650$0202a8c0@majorzoot> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Kherry Zamore wrote: > Just recently my friend locked himself out of his machine by changing root's > shell to a nonexisting file. The only way he could become root again was by > rebooting the machine into single user mode and changing it from there. Now > while I know that its foolish to change root's shell in the first place, i > don't think this is an acceptable punishment for those that do. Your friend had a "root awakening", eh? Consider it a cheap lesson on: 1) Use chsh to change shells *always*. If not, use vipw at least. 2) sudo can be a handy beast. It helps forgotten root passwords too! 3) Playing with root's shell is dangerous and, I'm sorry, just stupid. If your new shell has shared libs on another filesystem that fails to mount, you are toast. (BillVer can attest to this from csh on the Tandy 6000.) Scripts should spec their shell, but you could still get caught there too. The csh v.s. sh debate is part of why 'toor' was created. sudo also gets around this by letting you use user's favorite shells. 4) Make a playground. Take some abandoned box and install an OS on it to "beat up". Do experimental or "crazy" things on *it* first. (At least you can't kill-off init anymore, you could on the VAX. (^_^)) This is a good idea for WinServers too, btw. Using Ghost(tm), you can bring your machine back from the dead in no time. Any experienced admin has plenty of tales (tightening access until telnet fails, live ifconfig-ing the WRONG ip, SMTP alias loops, forgetting Caps Lock was on in vi, etc...). I wouldn't hire an admin that didn't have some experience with damage control - you don't know how they will react. - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 23: 6: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (smtp.wanadoo.nl [194.134.193.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6C937B43C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:05:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p307.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.200.199]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f3565lq25537; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:05:48 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:05:24 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: "Brian D. Woodruff" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Message-Id: <20010405080524.004ac893.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404234810.020e2ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <4.3.2.7.0.20010404234810.020e2ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.60 (GTK+ 1.2.8; FreeBSD 4.3-RC; i386) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:49:40 -0500 "Brian D. Woodruff" wrote: BW> I would rather be consistent across my servers than have some be one BW> release past the others. Allow me to investigate this a little further. Do you want to have all your servers running the same code or code with the same name ? The former can only be achieved by installing them from the same build (except for RELEASEs which can be exactly recreated at any time). The latter is meaningless except for RELEASEs (oh yes and branch points but AFAIK nobody uses those tags for a checkout). -- Optimal hardware acceleration for Windows PC (Mac). 9.98 m/s/s applied for (at least) 2s followed by impact with solid object. Optimal software upgrade FreeBSD (OS-X). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 23:21: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com [171.71.163.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A33637B422 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:21:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-4.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA22416; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f356KwW21218; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:20:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200104050620.f356KwW21218@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/19/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: "Brian D. Woodruff" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC In-Reply-To: <20010405080524.004ac893.steveo@eircom.net> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <4.3.2.7.0.20010404234810.020e2ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20010405080524.004ac893.steveo@eircom.net> Comments: In-reply-to "Steve O'Hara-Smith" message dated "Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:05:24 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1639059088P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:20:58 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_1639059088P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Steve O'Hara-Smith" wrote: > On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:49:40 -0500 > "Brian D. Woodruff" wrote: > > > BW> I would rather be consistent across my servers than have some be one > BW> release past the others. > > Allow me to investigate this a little further. > > Do you want to have all your servers running the same code or code > with the same name ? The former can only be achieved by installing them from > the same build (except for RELEASEs which can be exactly recreated at any > time). "man cvsup" and look at the description of the "date" tag in the supfile. Bruce. --==_Exmh_1639059088P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE6zA7K2MoxcVugUsMRArz6AJ9ScsYTvunkqhIGOaaiHPsICcb8RQCg5r6X h+TjSkFioQ3onuqFVK9scz8= =Mn4S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1639059088P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 23:39:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0CB37B496 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:39:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@bolingbroke.com) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id f356dKQ08088; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:39:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: "Brian D. Woodruff" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404234810.020e2ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > At 10:35 PM 4/4/01 -0400, you wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:32:39PM -0500, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > > > Here are my questions: > > > > > > 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I have been using? > > can anyone tell me how to get the STABLE version I want? > > I would rather be consistent across my servers than have some be one > release past the others. If you're using CVS to get RELENG_4 at different points in time, even if they're all 4.2-STABLE, your servers will NOT be consistent anyway. The -STABLE branch is a stream, in constant development. If you update your sources via CVS to build one server, then the next day update sources again to build another server, the two servers will be different. This is the essence of -STABLE, even though it seems to contradict the meaning of the word "stable". :-) If you require absolute consistency across servers, you need to either update all servers from the very same source, or specify an exact CVS tag to get the same sources for all servers. And if it doesn't bother you that your servers are on different points of 4.2-STABLE, then 4.3-RC is just another point a little farther down the development stream. I'd actually consider the -RC to be safer bet than the average -STABLE. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 4 23:45:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CF537B443 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:45:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01342; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:14:48 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:16:07 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Ken Bolingbroke Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Brian D. Woodruff" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 05-Apr-2001 Ken Bolingbroke wrote: > If you require absolute consistency across servers, you need to either > update all servers from the very same source, or specify an exact CVS tag > to get the same sources for all servers. You can check out a branch at a specific time using -D which you might find useful.. Also, you could check it out and build it on one machine and then do an installworld via NFS (assuming all the machines are on a fast link and running the same architecture) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 0:44:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D7137B42C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:44:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f357itU20911 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:44:56 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: Subject: RE: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:47:02 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There may be some value in the multiple servers case, of running one as a cvs server, and updating all the others off that one. Then all your servers are reflections of the one that is cvsupping the -> remote-cvs-server just a thought. Bob > > > > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > > > At 10:35 PM 4/4/01 -0400, you wrote: > > >On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:32:39PM -0500, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > > > > Here are my questions: > > > > > > > > 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I > have been using? > > > > can anyone tell me how to get the STABLE version I want? > > > > I would rather be consistent across my servers than have some be one > > release past the others. > > If you're using CVS to get RELENG_4 at different points in time, even if > they're all 4.2-STABLE, your servers will NOT be consistent anyway. The > -STABLE branch is a stream, in constant development. If you update your > sources via CVS to build one server, then the next day update sources > again to build another server, the two servers will be different. This is > the essence of -STABLE, even though it seems to contradict the meaning of > the word "stable". :-) > > If you require absolute consistency across servers, you need to either > update all servers from the very same source, or specify an exact CVS tag > to get the same sources for all servers. > > And if it doesn't bother you that your servers are on different points of > 4.2-STABLE, then 4.3-RC is just another point a little farther down the > development stream. I'd actually consider the -RC to be safer bet than > the average -STABLE. > > Ken > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 0:55:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 1stwebs.com (1stwebs.com [216.122.237.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADE237B43E for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deven@netexplorer.org) Received: from netexplorer.org (pilot.netexplorer.org [209.203.248.115]) by 1stwebs.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f357uis89417; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deven@netexplorer.org) Message-ID: <3ACC255F.10409@netexplorer.org> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 00:57:19 -0700 From: Deven Kampenhout User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-BETA i386; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010321 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I agree with you completely, Bob. The idea of keeping one "master server" to push out updates to many is extremely useful when you are maintaining a large number of similar systems. It is much less work-intensive to maintain several hundred systems if they are running on exactly the same configuration, kernel, etc. The only caveat is that you must be extremely careful with any changes you make to the master, and make certain that any changes that you make to your master system are pushed out to all of the "leaf" systems. If not, then you get some updates here and there on various systems and you may as well be running different software on all of the machines. CVS is definately the way to go, as it helps you to be disciplined about distribution. Just make sure that the master server that is cvsuping is thoroughly tested before you push things out, or you're heading for trouble very quickly :) Robert wrote: > There may be some value in the multiple servers case, of running one as a > cvs server, and updating all the others off that one. Then all your servers > are reflections of the one that is cvsupping the -> remote-cvs-server > > just a thought. > > Bob > >> >> >> On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: >> >>> At 10:35 PM 4/4/01 -0400, you wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:32:39PM -0500, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: >>>> >>>>> Here are my questions: >>>>> >>>>> 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I >>>> >> have been using? >> >>> can anyone tell me how to get the STABLE version I want? >>> >>> I would rather be consistent across my servers than have some be one >>> release past the others. >> >> If you're using CVS to get RELENG_4 at different points in time, even if >> they're all 4.2-STABLE, your servers will NOT be consistent anyway. The >> -STABLE branch is a stream, in constant development. If you update your >> sources via CVS to build one server, then the next day update sources >> again to build another server, the two servers will be different. This is >> the essence of -STABLE, even though it seems to contradict the meaning of >> the word "stable". :-) >> >> If you require absolute consistency across servers, you need to either >> update all servers from the very same source, or specify an exact CVS tag >> to get the same sources for all servers. >> >> And if it doesn't bother you that your servers are on different points of >> 4.2-STABLE, then 4.3-RC is just another point a little farther down the >> development stream. I'd actually consider the -RC to be safer bet than >> the average -STABLE. >> >> Ken >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 2:10:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A041237B446 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14l5mZ-0008BJ-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:10:23 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f359ALc34706 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:10:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:10:21 +0100 From: Rasputin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. Message-ID: <20010405101021.A34543@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <20010404231722.A25165@dojo> <002801c0bd91$517c92c0$0204a8c0@unixforever.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <002801c0bd91$517c92c0$0204a8c0@unixforever.net>; from fury@unixforever.net on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 12:28:48AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * fury [010405 06:28]: > No it was NOT a hardware issue unlike many ppl stated, fact is, I have never > figured it out. Then how do you know it wasn't hardware? I'm not saying you're wrong, fury, and I can see you're more than a bit pissed off, but in the vast majority of cases it *does* turn out to be hardware. I had similar problems to The Anarcat about a month ago, (spontaneous reboots under fairly high load - make -j4 buildworld etc) and couldn't get a fix here except for 'bad RAM/CPU/mobo' No kernel errors, CVSupped at least once a week, no difference. Decided to put up with it until I could upgrade the box, fitted a new CPU and 4X the RAM. It was only then that I noticed that my second SIMM was only half in the slot. Which meant that the minute BSD tried to use the last 8Mb of that SIMM, I'd get a reboot. > I really don't know how to put this, but since we're in a code freeze > and I'm running stable, if a few people witness this behavior, well... And that was my question too. All I can say to help is that 4-3-RC0 (built on April Fools Day) is running a treat now. > FreeBSD shall.anarcat.yi.org 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #2: Wed Mar 14 > 18:50:48 EST 2001 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHALL i386 > > A few minutes ago, I was doing a few things at the same time on my > machine. I was doing a make install clean in > sysutils/[gcombust|gtoaster|xcdroast], copying /mnt/cdr to ~/cdr, and > opening a ssh session to my shell account. > > Before I could get to a password prompt on the shell account, I didn't > even had time to realize what's going on that my computer beeped and was > back to the BIOS POST startup procedure. Shikima usually did it when I was on the wrong end of an SSH session. > I had so much scrapped files that I interrupted the process at some > point to restart it with "fsck -y". Things like UNREF DIR, LINK COUNT > DIR, UNREF FILE, and all sort of evil warnings of the kind. That was a big worry too - didn't lose any data here though. Do you run softupdates? Might be worth enabling them until you get this fixed; I didn't really notice the overhead on a P133/32Mb. > The "crash" has somehow been recorded in wtmp. last says: > > anarcat ttyp1 :0 Mer 4 avr 23:45 - 23:47 (00:01) > reboot ~ Mer 4 avr 23:43 > anarcat ttyp4 :1 Mer 4 avr 23:26 - crash (00:17) > apocalypse. That's interesting. I never managed to find any log evidence that a crash had happened. > Don't do as daddy does, boys and girls. Do backups. Often. You never > know when the shit'll the fan. :) I(n my experience, it's the day before you make a monthly backup :^] -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 3:17:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091D137B423 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:17:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14l6pC-0009yy-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:17:10 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f35AH7E35540 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:17:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:17:07 +0100 From: Rasputin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Disklabel 101? Message-ID: <20010405111707.A35325@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a decent walkthrough anywhere on the Net for using disklabel, fdisk , etc - along with an explanation of what a,c etc all mean? man disklabel etc all assume you know what those letters mean. I know c is the whole partition, but that's it. I need to know because: <-----EXTENDED-----><------PHYSICAL------------> ad0s1 ad0s5 ad0s6 ad0s3 <-winXX--><-msdos-><-------BSD----------------> | 2Gb | 1.5Gb | 2Gb | / | swap | /usr | /var | ^ | I have an old Slackware partition that has FUBARed itself so throuoghly that it can't even be mounted. (Actually there were about 3 partitions in there, but they're lost now) It's in the second logical partition in an extended DOS partition on my second physical partition (dev/ad0s6 in FreeBSD) There's a Gb of data in ad0s5 (which is fine). BSD dumps ad0s6 altogether when it boots; and fdisk from a boot CD says something along the lines of: "Second slice extended past end of disk" or similar (box is offline today, so I can't check right now) This concerns me; if I try to fdisk/newfs ad0s2 (assuming I could see it), I risk losing ad0s3, which is the only bit of the disk I really want to keep. I assume/hope that if I blow away the extended partition entirely, I can just recreate it. But I don't really know what it's called? Is it ad0s2? And won't I need to let BSD know where / has moved to? What I'd really like is some advice from anyone who knows this stuff. But I'm surprised the Handbook doesn't go into a lot of detail on this, since dual-boot systems are fairly common amongst cheapskates like me. If I can free up that 2Gb, maybe I'll have space for the docproj port... :) -- Rasputin Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 5:41:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0085737B43C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 05:41:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([fec0::2e0:7dff:fe81:749d]) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14l949-0004VV-00; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:40:45 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f35CeiI48589; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:40:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:40:44 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: "Brian D. Woodruff" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Message-ID: <20010405134044.A72405@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20010404223544.A13450@peitho.fxp.org> <4.3.2.7.0.20010404234810.020e2ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404234810.020e2ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > At 10:35 PM 4/4/01 -0400, you wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:32:39PM -0500, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: >>> Here are my questions: >>> >>> 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I have been using? > > excellent answer to part 2 > > can anyone tell me how to get the STABLE version I want? Did you read the first sentence of that FAQ entry? "Short answer: it's just a name." If you cvsup the RELENG_4 branch, you're getting FreeBSD-stable, whether it be called -STABLE, -RC, -BETA, -FISHCAKE, -UNSTABLE-AS-HELL, or even -CURRENT if someone felt like playing an April Fool's day joke in /sys/conf/newvers.sh. :-) > I would rather be consistent across my servers than have some be one > release past the others. Well if it said 4.2-STABLE and you builtworld on one and not the others you still wouldn't be consistent, they'd still be different codebases but with the same name. If it _really_ bothers you just change /sys/conf/newvers.sh appropriately so your kernel reports itself as 4.2-STABLE, if all you want is the same name but different codebases. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 6:20:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from deadphish.dhs.org (cx517903-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.21.1.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C1A137B446 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:20:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forbin@crosswinds.net) Received: (qmail 26346 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2001 13:21:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wilson) (192.168.0.3) by 192.168.0.2 with SMTP; 5 Apr 2001 13:21:00 -0000 From: "David Cerce" To: "Jason Victor" , "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: RE: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet support Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:21:38 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010405013553.5761.qmail@web4303.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG AFAIK, you have to go with 5.0-current for Cardbus support. I recently had the same issue and did a little bit of searching through the freebsd-mobile mailing list for more information. I was able to get the Xircom working pretty easily in 5.0-current. I also had 4.2 install hang on me, for which I could not find a workaround other than removing the pccard. IIRC, FreeBSD hung when I put the card back in until I recompiled the kernel without pccard support (there may be other quicker and easier fixes for this, it's just how I solved the problem). -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jason Victor Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:36 PM To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet support I might be switching to FreeBSD and was wondering if the Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 PCMCIA card works. I have been doing reading, but many docs are severely outdated. I have an .iso of FreeBSD 4.2, and the installer hangs until I take the card out. That isn't a good sign. I was just wondering, if I install without the card, will I be able to put it in after? I need it for work. I'm pretty sure in Linux I use a tulip_cb.o driver. That might help. Any success, anyone? --Jason __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 6:41:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wasp.eng.ufl.edu (wasp.eng.ufl.edu [128.227.116.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A289D37B42C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:41:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@eng.ufl.edu) Received: from eng.ufl.edu (scanner.engnet.ufl.edu [128.227.152.221]) by wasp.eng.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06916; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ACC75F5.B456A144@eng.ufl.edu> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:41:09 -0400 From: Bob Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, eo MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wood@soundconcept.net Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:49:40 -0500 > From: "Brian D. Woodruff" > Subject: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC > > At 10:35 PM 4/4/01 -0400, you wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:32:39PM -0500, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > > > Here are my questions: > > > > > > 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I have been using? > > excellent answer to part 2 > > can anyone tell me how to get the STABLE version I want? If you want to have identical code on all of your systems, you need to specify your update by date rather than "the latest -STABLE" (which is what the tag you are using does). Unfortunately, I don't know the details of how to do that, so I can't help with that part. To restate that, the cvsup tag you are using always fetches the latest 4.x code, whatever that may be. Unless you cvsup all of your systems at the same time, they will likely end up with different code, because -STABLE is continuously updated. The 4.3-RC you fetched is, by the way, exactly the same thing as the latest 4.2-STABLE. There is no difference. It is NOT a snapshot of -CURRENT. Good luck. - Bob > > I would rather be consistent across my servers than have some be one > release past the others. > > Valid thinking or not, I would like to know how to do this with cvsup, if > possible. > > Thanks! > > BDW > > > > 2.) is this a mistake? If so, when will it be corrected? > > > > > > >http://www.FreeBSD.org/FAQ/book.html#RELEASE-CANDIDATE > > > >-- > >Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org > >-------------------------------------------------------- > >FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org > -- ********************************************************* Bob Johnson Senior Systems Programmer bob@eng.ufl.edu College of Engineering 523 Weil Hall 352-392-9217 Office University of Florida 352-392-7063 Fax Gainesville, FL 32611 ********************************************************* "Security is not a product, it's a mentality." . . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 6:47:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cisco.com (sword.cisco.com [161.44.208.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FF037B50B; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:47:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjt@cisco.com) Received: from sjt-u10.cisco.com (sjt-u10.cisco.com [10.85.30.63]) by cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21197; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:47:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Tremblett Received: (sjt@localhost) by sjt-u10.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/CISCO.WS.1.2) id JAA03586; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104051347.JAA03586@sjt-u10.cisco.com> Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC To: ben@freebsd.org (Ben Smithurst) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010405134044.A72405@scientia.demon.co.uk> from "Ben Smithurst" at Apr 05, 2001 01:40:44 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG +--- Ben Smithurst wrote: | | Did you read the first sentence of that FAQ entry? "Short answer: it's | just a name." | | If you cvsup the RELENG_4 branch, you're getting FreeBSD-stable, whether | it be called -STABLE, -RC, -BETA, -FISHCAKE, -UNSTABLE-AS-HELL, or | even -CURRENT if someone felt like playing an April Fool's day joke in | /sys/conf/newvers.sh. :-) | I was under the impression that 4-STABLE was primarily for bugfixes applied to the 4.2-RELEASE codebase, and 4-CURRENT is for development of new features. Given that rationale, 4.3-RC should be a preliminary merge of CURRENT code into STABLE. The intruduction of (relatively) unproven code into an established as-stable-as-possible codebase introduces instability until after it has been tested, therefore just because 4.3-RC == 4-STABLE, that does not imply that 4.3-RC == stable. People aren't concerned with the NAME, they are concerned about updating production machines to what is supposedly the latest bugfixed version, and getting a beta version instead. While the code in the new features may be of the highest quality and could possibly be bug free, if I'm running a frontline webserver I don't want to be the guy who discovers a bug in this new code. Then again, once I have a working config on that webserver, I shouldn't be updating all that often and only for specific fixes, but that is another can of worms. I'd prefer to stay with 4-STABLE from the date of the codefreeze as opposed to 4.3-RC. I'll be waiting until 4.3-RELEASE before updating. my $0.02 (Canadian) -- Steve Tremblett Cisco Systems To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 6:56:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F7637B43E; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:56:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f35Dub345856; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:56:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:56:36 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: Steve Tremblett Cc: Ben Smithurst , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Message-ID: <20010405155636.K31062@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <20010405134044.A72405@scientia.demon.co.uk> <200104051347.JAA03586@sjt-u10.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104051347.JAA03586@sjt-u10.cisco.com>; from sjt@cisco.com on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:47:24AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:47:24AM -0400, Steve Tremblett wrote: > I was under the impression that 4-STABLE was primarily for bugfixes > applied to the 4.2-RELEASE codebase, and 4-CURRENT is for development > of new features. Given that rationale, 4.3-RC should be a preliminary > merge of CURRENT code into STABLE. The intruduction of (relatively) > unproven code into an established as-stable-as-possible codebase > introduces instability until after it has been tested, therefore just > because 4.3-RC == 4-STABLE, that does not imply that 4.3-RC == stable. That's just not true; during code freeze, the number of features that are brought in from 5-CURRENT is *minimized* so as to avoid further regression. So, 4.3-RC is by all definitions *more* stable than your 'pre-RC'. > People aren't concerned with the NAME, they are concerned about > updating production machines to what is supposedly the latest bugfixed > version, and getting a beta version instead. 4.3-RC{2} *IS* the bugfixed version. If we, the userbase, don't find any bugs within the intended release schedule, nothing is changed and it simply begets the name 4.3-RELEASE for a very short period in time, and then reverts to 4.3-STABLE (or RELENG_4). > While the code in the new > features may be of the highest quality and could possibly be bug free, > if I'm running a frontline webserver I don't want to be the guy who > discovers a bug in this new code. Indeed, then you should refrain from updating your server at all, unless due to security risks. From one -RELEASE to the next, new features are introduced in -STABLE. They should be bug free in the next -RELEASE exactly due to the -BETA and -RC periods. > Then again, once I have a working > config on that webserver, I shouldn't be updating all that often and > only for specific fixes, but that is another can of worms. Correct. > I'd prefer to stay with 4-STABLE from the date of the codefreeze as > opposed to 4.3-RC. I'll be waiting until 4.3-RELEASE before updating. Which (in theory) will get you no new features, just bugfixes. --Stijn -- Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 7: 3:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yadt.co.uk (yadt.demon.co.uk [158.152.4.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DB5637B43C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:03:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davidt@yadt.co.uk) Received: (qmail 28192 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2001 14:03:18 -0000 Received: from gattaca.local.yadt.co.uk (HELO mail.gattaca.yadt.co.uk) (qmailr@10.0.0.2) by xfiles.yadt.co.uk with SMTP; 5 Apr 2001 14:03:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 34355 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Apr 2001 14:03:16 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:03:16 +0100 From: David Taylor To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Message-ID: <20010405150316.A14600@gattaca.yadt.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010405134044.A72405@scientia.demon.co.uk> <200104051347.JAA03586@sjt-u10.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104051347.JAA03586@sjt-u10.cisco.com>; from sjt@cisco.com on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:47:24 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 05 Apr 2001, Steve Tremblett wrote: > +--- Ben Smithurst wrote: > |=20 > | Did you read the first sentence of that FAQ entry? "Short answer: it's > | just a name." > |=20 > | If you cvsup the RELENG_4 branch, you're getting FreeBSD-stable, whether > | it be called -STABLE, -RC, -BETA, -FISHCAKE, -UNSTABLE-AS-HELL, or > | even -CURRENT if someone felt like playing an April Fool's day joke in > | /sys/conf/newvers.sh. :-) > |=20 >=20 > I was under the impression that 4-STABLE was primarily for bugfixes > applied to the 4.2-RELEASE codebase, and 4-CURRENT is for development > of new features. Given that rationale, 4.3-RC should be a preliminary > merge of CURRENT code into STABLE. The intruduction of (relatively) > unproven code into an established as-stable-as-possible codebase > introduces instability until after it has been tested, therefore just > because 4.3-RC =3D=3D 4-STABLE, that does not imply that 4.3-RC =3D=3D st= able. You were under the wrong impression then. 4.0-CURRENT was around, and developed into something stable and working, and went through a 4.0-BETA.. 4.0-RC code-freeze, before becoming 4.0-RELEASE. At that point, 4.0-STABLE was forked off, and the main branch was renamed 5.0-CURRENT, which started development of 5.0, which is still going on today.. Meanwhile, 4.0-STABLE had bugfixes and features MFCed (Merge from current) to it, and became 4.1-BETA, 4.1-RC, 4.1-RELEASE, through the appropriate code freeze stuff... Then it became 4.1-STABLE, and so on, until now, when it's 4.2-STABLE, then was renamed 4.3-BETA, 4.3-RC, and will shortly be tagged as 4.3-RELEASE.... > People aren't concerned with the NAME, they are concerned about That's all it is. a name. if you cvsup to RELENG_4, you're getting the latest code from the 4.x-STABLE branch, be it a -STABLE, -BETA, -RC, or even a tagged -RELEASE. > updating production machines to what is supposedly the latest bugfixed > version, and getting a beta version instead. While the code in the new BETA > STABLE in terms of stability and quality (theoretically, anyway) > features may be of the highest quality and could possibly be bug free, > if I'm running a frontline webserver I don't want to be the guy who > discovers a bug in this new code. Then again, once I have a working > config on that webserver, I shouldn't be updating all that often and > only for specific fixes, but that is another can of worms. > > I'd prefer to stay with 4-STABLE from the date of the codefreeze as > opposed to 4.3-RC. I'll be waiting until 4.3-RELEASE before updating. >=20 And here you contradict yourself. "the date of the code freeze" -- after that point the code is frozen, so new features _can't_ be added. Only bug fixes are added. It's entirely your choice when you want to upgrade, but 4.3-BETA is closer to -RELEASE stability than -STABLE from a few weeks before it... --=20 David Taylor davidt@yadt.co.uk --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6zHskfIqKXSsJ/xERAnMAAJ40BfissR4buiWdmGGlurLPhEU3cwCfbkR7 4Szw8BrYLSD2ghBME0vs320= =kOW4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oyUTqETQ0mS9luUI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 7:30:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dojo.tao.ca (tao.ca [198.96.117.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7EBC37B423 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anarcat@dojo.tao.ca) Received: from dojo.tao.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dojo.tao.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D8424E75 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:30:09 -0500 (EST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. From: The Anarcat X-Mailer: TWIG 2.1.1 Message-Id: <20010405143009.9D8424E75@dojo.tao.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:30:09 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for your answer. It's good to know I'm not simply mad and had a lenghty hallucination yesterday. :) But as for hw, it might just be it in my case. My box has been so damn battered and tortured, that it's not that surprising that it crashes like that. A. fury said: > First of all sorry about the quote, I'm in my makeshift emailer at the > moment. > > Second, in response to your email, yes I have often received the same > response. I have managed to fix it for now basically on blind luck. > No it was NOT a hardware issue unlike many ppl stated, fact is, I have never > figured it out. There was one machine effects, where not the same as the > other *identical* machine. CVSup seemed to fix the spuratic one, but with > the only machine differences being two network cards of the same brand and > model, and in a series of serial numbers no less. First my suspect was the > adaptech 39160, but no, I swapped the good with the bad and no luck. Then I > tried a different video card, nope, different network cards, nope, memory > nope. I essentially went through every peice of hardware in the machine > including the motherboard, and power supply but not the seagate cheetah. Go > figure, > so I gave up on the list, but I will not do unto others that sound like the > same situation as it was done unto me at that time. Even if this is > insignifigant, at least you have a response, which is more than *I* got. > But what I think it all came down to, was probably a bad CVSup tree that > finally I just caught a good tree and after that all was well again. Maybe > you have some enlightenment from this, maybe not. I sure hope so, at least > *I* respond if I think its even close to relevant. > > -fury To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 7:42:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dojo.tao.ca (tao.ca [198.96.117.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E620F37B496 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:42:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anarcat@dojo.tao.ca) Received: from dojo.tao.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dojo.tao.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id D79D54E75 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:42:25 -0500 (EST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. From: The Anarcat X-Mailer: TWIG 2.1.1 Message-Id: <20010405144225.D79D54E75@dojo.tao.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:42:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. [please CC me as I am not on the list... not here anyways...] Rasputin wrote: > > * fury [010405 06:28]: > > > No it was NOT a hardware issue unlike many ppl stated, fact is, I have never > > figured it out. > > Then how do you know it wasn't hardware? Well, he did mentionned he changed every piece of hw in his box. ;) The thing is that this happened to me before, but I can say it's happening regularly. And I can't say I can reproduce it either. So, *for me* it might just be hardware. As you said, there's no way to tell. But I still think a lot of people just toss "it's hardware" around way too easily. :) If it would be hardware, I don't understand why heavy load would trigger the crash. And even then... I had even heavier load before. This was no big deal (3 make install, big copy and an ssh session). The makes weren't even to the build process yet (just fetching). During the week, I did this process a few times already and had 2-3 builds *compiling* at the same time. While playing MP3 and doing ssh, that's what I call heavy load on a P166. :) Maybe you can enlighten me on this. :) What particular this time is that I was doing a copy off my SCSI CDR. That's the unusual thing. I will try to reproduce the crash tonight. [snip] > > I really don't know how to put this, but since we're in a code freeze > > and I'm running stable, if a few people witness this behavior, well... > > And that was my question too. All I can say to help is that 4-3-RC0 > (built on April Fools Day) is running a treat now. Oh, here too! There never seems to be any problem with freebsd, might it be 4.3RC or 2.2.8, for that matter. I just had a crash. Just one. In a good while. I'm very satisfied with FreeBSD. Heck, I haven't even needed Windoze for months now! Actually, I was making a copy of my windoze CDROM because it couldn't be read in my old crappy ATAPI CDROM. Windoze hasn't been booting for months (bad system disk). And of course, Win98 SE CDs are too stupid to be bootable (mine, at least). > > FreeBSD shall.anarcat.yi.org 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #2: Wed Mar 14 > > 18:50:48 EST 2001 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHALL i386 > > > > A few minutes ago, I was doing a few things at the same time on my > > machine. I was doing a make install clean in > > sysutils/[gcombust|gtoaster|xcdroast], copying /mnt/cdr to ~/cdr, and > > opening a ssh session to my shell account. > > > > Before I could get to a password prompt on the shell account, I didn't > > even had time to realize what's going on that my computer beeped and was > > back to the BIOS POST startup procedure. > > Shikima usually did it when I was on the wrong end of an SSH session. Wrong end, that's client-side, as me? > > I had so much scrapped files that I interrupted the process at some > > point to restart it with "fsck -y". Things like UNREF DIR, LINK COUNT > > DIR, UNREF FILE, and all sort of evil warnings of the kind. > > That was a big worry too - didn't lose any data here though. > Do you run softupdates? Might be worth enabling them until you get this fixed; > I didn't really notice the overhead on a P133/32Mb. No. But I will, I swear. Performance improvement, and crash recovery too. I can't really afford *not* to run it anymore. :) > > The "crash" has somehow been recorded in wtmp. last says: > > > > anarcat ttyp1 :0 Mer 4 avr 23:45 - 23:47 (00:01) > > reboot ~ Mer 4 avr 23:43 > > anarcat ttyp4 :1 Mer 4 avr 23:26 - crash (00:17) > > apocalypse. > > That's interesting. > I never managed to find any log evidence that a crash had happened. I found it odd too. But don't get too excited here. :) What I think this log means is that there is no evidence of the crash itself. Probably that wtmp just gets cleaned up with the machine reboots. And anyways, the "reboot" entry in itself is very probably put there when the machine powers up again *after* the crash. Then, it would be logical to note that anarcat cannot still be logged in... :) Anyways, if you look at the times, 23:26 + 00:17 = 23:43, which is *after* the crash recovery. The crash probably happened somewhere around 23:41 or 42... And surely hasn't been noted in wtmp, from the speed at which it occured.. > > Don't do as daddy does, boys and girls. Do backups. Often. You never > > know when the shit'll the fan. :) > > I(n my experience, it's the day before you make a monthly backup :^] Well, that's better than nothing. No backups here. :( I have a CDRW here, but 30 Gb does not fit well on a 800Mb disc. How am I suppose to manage that anyways???? I never figured that out. With tapes, it's a charm. Just dump everything sequentially. But a CDR is so akward, so *not* made for regular (or incremental) backups. I really have to get a tape here. Thanks for the info, The Anarcat -- La sémantique est la gravité de l'abstraction. -- Everything is normal. Thus, nothing is. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 7:46:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E53137B424; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:46:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca4a-226.ix.netcom.com [209.110.244.226]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15759; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BFB92114346; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:45:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: steveo@eircom.net, wood@soundconcept.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <200104050620.f356KwW21218@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <4.3.2.7.0.20010404234810.020e2ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20010405080524.004ac893.steveo@eircom.net> <200104050620.f356KwW21218@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Message-Id: <20010405144547.BFB92114346@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Note that apparently people can check in files with old dates - I see this with various MFCs - and a checkout on say, the 25th for a target date of the 10th may give you a different set of files then your checkout on the 15th with the same target date. Hopefully MFCs could be tagged with the date that they are added so that this doesn't happen... - Mike H. Cc: "Brian D. Woodruff" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Comments: In-reply-to "Steve O'Hara-Smith" message dated "Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:05:24 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1639059088P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:20:58 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk --==_Exmh_1639059088P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Steve O'Hara-Smith" wrote: > On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:49:40 -0500 > "Brian D. Woodruff" wrote: > > > BW> I would rather be consistent across my servers than have some be one > BW> release past the others. > > Allow me to investigate this a little further. > > Do you want to have all your servers running the same code or code > with the same name ? The former can only be achieved by installing them from > the same build (except for RELEASEs which can be exactly recreated at any > time). "man cvsup" and look at the description of the "date" tag in the supfile. Bruce. --==_Exmh_1639059088P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE6zA7K2MoxcVugUsMRArz6AJ9ScsYTvunkqhIGOaaiHPsICcb8RQCg5r6X h+TjSkFioQ3onuqFVK9scz8= =Mn4S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1639059088P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 7:58:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tp.databus.com (p101-46.acedsl.com [160.79.101.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA4A37B446 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barney@tp.databus.com) Received: (from barney@localhost) by tp.databus.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f35EvHC17475; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:57:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from barney) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:57:11 -0400 From: Barney Wolff To: The Anarcat Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. Message-ID: <20010405105711.A17397@tp.databus.com> References: <20010405144225.D79D54E75@dojo.tao.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010405144225.D79D54E75@dojo.tao.ca>; from anarcat@dojo.tao.ca on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:42:25AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How big is your power supply, and is it working up to snuff? The new 40-50x cd drives draw quite a lot of power when they get spinning fast. I had an old Gateway case/ps that would not handle a K6-3/400 with 40x cd-rom copying to an ide hard drive. I replaced the cd-rom with an older 8x and have had no trouble How big is your power supply, and is it working up to snuff? The new 40-50x cd drives draw quite a lot of power when they get spinning fast. I had an old Gateway case/ps that would not handle a K6-3/400 with 40x cd-rom copying to an ide hard drive. I replaced the cd-rom with an older 8x and have had no trouble since. In my case, the system would freeze in the middle of the fbsd (4.0-rel) install with the fast cd-rom drive. Barney Wolff On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:42:25AM -0500, The Anarcat wrote: > > What particular this time is that I was doing a copy off my SCSI CDR. That's > the unusual thing. > > I will try to reproduce the crash tonight. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 8:13:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3478137B446; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:13:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA65794; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:13:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: James Wyatt Cc: Kherry Zamore , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su change? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 05 Apr 2001 17:13:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: James Wyatt's message of "Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:43:17 -0500 (CDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Wyatt writes: > Any experienced admin has plenty of tales (tightening access until telnet > fails I consider this (telnetd not working) a feature. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 8:13:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.virtual-estates.net (video-collage.com [160.79.196.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4683A37B507; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:13:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@mail.virtual-estates.net) Received: (from mi@localhost) by mail.virtual-estates.net (8.9.3+3.2W/8.9.3) id LAA18252; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:13:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200104051513.LAA18252@mail.virtual-estates.net> Subject: bugs in 4.3-RC2 To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Cc: sos@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The first screen the user is presented with, is where he/she gets to choose between configuring the kernel (in visual or CL mode) and continuing to boot. Pressing Alt-F2 on that screen causes a panic... Once you go through the partition submenu of "Custom", you can not get the list of available drives again. We had 4 drives in this machine and marked only one of them initially. Attempts to get the list again to partition another drive were just bringing us directly down to partitioning the drive we already partitioned (with dangerously allocated, BTW, it sucks, that one has to look around the sources and what not for this hidden option). The machine had the Promise Raid controler on board, which we chose not to use, by configuring each disk to be in the SPAN of its own. The install was giving us a choice of arX and adX devices duplicating the number of disks we had. We installed on the adX devices and everything seems fine, but having to choose between ad and ar would be confusing... (BTW, why does the device name for ATA RAID devices reminds one of the synchronous Digi/Arnet device driver so much? Do the ATA RAID devices have a man page of their own?) -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 8:19:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dojo.tao.ca (tao.ca [198.96.117.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127AA37B42C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:19:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anarcat@dojo.tao.ca) Received: from dojo.tao.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dojo.tao.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id CC2654E75; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:19:04 -0500 (EST) To: Barney Wolff , The Anarcat Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. From: The Anarcat X-Mailer: TWIG 2.1.1 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <20010405151904.CC2654E75@dojo.tao.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:19:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well-well, you know this might just be it! I worried about my power supply's size when I bought a few more gizmos for my box back then but kinda "forgot" the issue altogether after runnning the box peacefully for full months. Now I'm worried. I think I *will* change the power after all. :) I don't even how big it is, thinking of it now! But I do know that the stuff I have do suck a lot of power: Motherboard Video Card SCSI Card Network Card Floppy drive (just started working again) 2 serial and 1 parallel ports (must not be that big) Sound card (just downgraded AWE32 -> SB16C, 'cause 4.x can't handle the AWE) Hard drive 30Gb 7200rpm Atapi CD SCSI CDRW Yeah, that's evil. All the scsi stuff and the network card were not there in the initial setup. I recently changed the hard drive from a Quantum Fireball 3.2Gb 5400 rpm to a Maxtor 30Gb 7200 rpm, so that might also jump into the game. And I just switched the floppy with another pc so now it's working again. How much power do you think that uses? I don't know how much power I have. How can I tell? That's gotta be kinda standard? Wow. I really got to put a few bucks on this machine. Poor little chap... :) Thanks, that was really valuable. I really should've thought of this before.. A. Barney Wolff said: > How big is your power supply, and is it working up to snuff? > The new 40-50x cd drives draw quite a lot of power when they > get spinning fast. I had an old Gateway case/ps that would not > handle a K6-3/400 with 40x cd-rom copying to an ide hard drive. > I replaced the cd-rom with an older 8x and have had no trouble > since. In my case, the system would freeze in the middle of the > fbsd (4.0-rel) install with the fast cd-rom drive. > > Barney Wolff > > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:42:25AM -0500, The Anarcat wrote: > > > > What particular this time is that I was doing a copy off my SCSI CDR. That's > > the unusual thing. > > > > I will try to reproduce the crash tonight. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 8:23:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E78337B422; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:23:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 44A2266D78; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:23:17 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Harding Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, steveo@eircom.net, wood@soundconcept.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Message-ID: <20010405082317.A77053@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <4.3.2.7.0.20010404234810.020e2ba0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20010405080524.004ac893.steveo@eircom.net> <200104050620.f356KwW21218@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010405144547.BFB92114346@netcom1.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010405144547.BFB92114346@netcom1.netcom.com>; from mvh@ix.netcom.com on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 07:45:47AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 07:45:47AM -0700, Mike Harding wrote: > > Note that apparently people can check in files with old dates - I see > this with various MFCs - and a checkout on say, the 25th for a target > date of the 10th may give you a different set of files then your > checkout on the 15th with the same target date. Hopefully MFCs could > be tagged with the date that they are added so that this doesn't > happen... I don't think this is true in practice, even if CVS allows it with repo surgery. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 8:43:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from daemon.kingsqueak.org (cc737825-a.etntwn1.nj.home.com [65.8.90.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE5437B423 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:43:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drmoreau@kingsqueak.org) Received: (from drmoreau@localhost) by daemon.kingsqueak.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f35FhbX90437; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:43:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from drmoreau) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:43:37 -0400 From: Chris To: David Cerce Cc: Jason Victor , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet support Message-ID: <20010405114337.B90317@daemon.kingsqueak.org> References: <20010405013553.5761.qmail@web4303.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from forbin@crosswinds.net on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 06:21:38AM -0700 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Uptime: 10 days X-URL: http://www.kingsqueak.org/ X-Accept-Language: en X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using an RBE-100 Xircom in obsd with a recent snapshot 3/25 of 2.8 installed, maybe you can muck with their driver to get it going. I had the identical 4.2 install difficulties with the card. * David Cerce [010405 09:25]: > AFAIK, you have to go with 5.0-current for Cardbus support. I recently had > the same issue and did a little bit of searching through the freebsd-mobile > mailing list for more information. I was able to get the Xircom working > pretty easily in 5.0-current. I also had 4.2 install hang on me, for which > I could not find a workaround other than removing the pccard. IIRC, FreeBSD > hung when I put the card back in until I recompiled the kernel without > pccard support (there may be other quicker and easier fixes for this, it's > just how I solved the problem). > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jason Victor > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:36 PM > To: FreeBSD Stable > Subject: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet support > > > I might be switching to FreeBSD and was wondering if > the Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 PCMCIA card works. > I have been doing reading, but many docs are severely > outdated. I have an .iso of FreeBSD 4.2, and the > installer hangs until I take the card out. That isn't > a good sign. I was just wondering, if I install > without the card, will I be able to put it in after? I > need it for work. I'm pretty sure in Linux I use a > tulip_cb.o driver. That might help. > > Any success, anyone? > > --Jason > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- __ ___ __ / //_(_)__ _http://www.kingsqueak.org _/ /__ / ,< / / _ \/ _ `(_-; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA01872 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:38:34 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda01869; Thu Apr 5 09:38:16 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f35GcBC42371 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdL42369; Thu Apr 5 09:37:52 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f35GbnT96821 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104051637.f35GbnT96821@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdg96818; Thu Apr 5 09:37:49 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: TCP New Reno algorithm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:37:49 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since upgrading some of our FreeBSD systems to the latest -stable, we've noticed that our Veritas backup throughput from the upgraded FreeBSD clients to our Veritas server, a Sun 450, had dropped to about 3 packets per second. Disabling the TCP New Reno algorithm (sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.newreno=0) returned our Veritas backup throughput to about 70 packets per second. What is the TCP New Reno algorithm supposed to do? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 9:42: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web13201.mail.yahoo.com (web13201.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2977C37B505 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:42:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lipshitz909@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010405164204.61452.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [148.74.251.191] by web13201.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:42:04 PDT Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:42:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Librettez Subject: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3-RC2 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: lipshitz909@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With 4.3-RC2, I cannot su to root in X using either aterm, eterm, or rxvt terminals. However, in xterm or gnome-terminal or at a plain console, I am able to do so. (This was not a problem with 4.2-STABLE where I could su to root in any type of terminal in X.) The problem occurs in both KDE and GNOME. The user is a member of the wheel group. I built world with and without kerberos4 and/or kerberos5 and still it is a problem in 4.3-RC. I did mergemaster and updated pam.conf, login.conf. I rebuilt all devices. I made the pseudo tty's world readable/writeable. I re-installed aterm, eterm, and rxvt from ports. I disabled/enabled the suid bit on aterm, eterm, and rxvt. I installed 4.3-RC2 from iso image (in addition to upgrading from 4.2-STABLE). I even upgraded to 5.0-CURRENT and still the problem exists. Nothing worked. I am at wits end. I have reproduced this bug on 4 different machines so far including 1 laptop, so I know this is NOT a hardware problem. See for yourself if you can reproduce it with 4.3-RC2 using aterm, eterm, or rxvt. Strange thing is, if I boot the 4.2-STABLE kernel with 4.3-RC2 world, the problem goes away. Is this a 4.3-RC2 kernel problem, and is there any way to fix this? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0BDB7.236D14B0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 10: 6:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EE037B43F for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:06:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oistrakh@earthlink.net) Received: from pirastro.oistrakh.org (user-2ivftm4.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.246.196]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07278 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (oistrakh@localhost) by pirastro.oistrakh.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35H5jD15554 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:05:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oistrakh@earthlink.net) X-Authentication-Warning: pirastro.oistrakh.org: oistrakh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:05:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Christian Chen X-X-Sender: To: Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 10:15: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.dellroad.org (adsl-63-194-81-26.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.81.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC7E37B443 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:15:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@dellroad.org) Received: from arch20m.dellroad.org (arch20m.dellroad.org [10.1.1.20]) by InterJet.dellroad.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05893; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from archie@localhost) by arch20m.dellroad.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f35HBEh73630; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:11:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200104051711.f35HBEh73630@arch20m.dellroad.org> Subject: Re: PPPoE causes kernel panic In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010402033656.044d5b70@localhost> "from Brett Glass at Apr 2, 2001 03:42:08 am" To: Brett Glass Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brett Glass writes: > Just tried to set up a PPPoE client on 4.3-RC2, but the machine > regularaly page faulted in the kernel just as it tried to get online > (that is, right after ppp said "Using interface: tun0.") The panic > display said that the "current process" was ppp (not surprisingly) and > that the CPU had gotten a page fault "while in kernel mode." The > Netgraph, Netgraph sockets, Netgraph PPPoE, and Netgraph Ethernet modules > were all compiled statically into the kernel and so didn't have to be loaded. > > If the person who maintains this portion of the code has trouble > duplicating the problem, let me know and I'll provide more detail -- > including configuration files. This is probably the known bug where certain Ethernet drivers don't handle outgoing packets before being set to IFF_UP. What Ethernet driver are you using for the PPPoE traffic? -Archie __________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Packet Design * http://www.packetdesign.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 10:20:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from manor.msen.com (manor.msen.com [148.59.4.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACF237B446 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:20:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@staff.msen.com) Received: from manor.msen.com (wayne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manor.msen.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA44550 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:20:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wayne@manor.msen.com) Message-Id: <200104051720.NAA44550@manor.msen.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: cvsup dumps core Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:20:43 -0400 From: "Michael R. Wayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With the recent ntpd exploit, I wanted to update only the files in /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpd. Based on the man page, I should be able to use -i to do this. But cvsup seems pretty unhappy: 1162> /usr/local/bin/cvsup @M3stackdump -g -L 2 -i ntpd /usr/local/etc/stable-supfile Parsing supfile "/usr/local/etc/stable-supfile" Connecting to cvsup9.FreeBSD.org Connected to cvsup9.FreeBSD.org Server software version: REL_16_1 Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection Running *** *** runtime error: *** Segmentation violation - possible attempt to dereference NIL *** pc = 0x281da3c6 *** ------------------ EXCEPTION HANDLER STACK --------------------- 0x817be4c TRY-FINALLY proc = 0x80a99d0 frame = 0x817be64 0x817beb0 TRY-EXCEPT {OSError.E} 0x817bf64 TRY-FINALLY proc = 0x805b840 frame = 0x817bfb8 0x817bf74 TRY-EXCEPT {Thread.Alerted, TreeList.Error, Wr.Failure} ---------------------------------------------------------------- Abort (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 10:29:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E4F37B43C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:29:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA02123 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:29:16 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda02120; Thu Apr 5 10:28:56 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f35HSp242805 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdg42802; Thu Apr 5 10:27:52 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f35HRp324853 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104051727.f35HRp324853@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdZ24547; Thu Apr 5 10:27:07 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Answer Found: TCP New Reno algorithm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:27:06 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No need to reply. Discovered that the Reno TCP algorithm is a rate limiting algorithm for congested networks. Our network is chronically congested, hence the slow Veritas backups. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 10:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.dellroad.org (adsl-63-194-81-26.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.81.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9F737B496; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@dellroad.org) Received: from arch20m.dellroad.org (arch20m.dellroad.org [10.1.1.20]) by InterJet.dellroad.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05960; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from archie@localhost) by arch20m.dellroad.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f35HIcF73652; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:18:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200104051718.f35HIcF73652@arch20m.dellroad.org> Subject: Re: mbuf leak? fxp? In-Reply-To: <200103312350.f2VNon305299@bubba.packetdesign.com> "from Archie Cobbs at Mar 31, 2001 03:50:49 pm" To: Archie Cobbs Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Archie Cobbs writes: > I have this machine that starts running out of mbufs every few days > ("looutput: mbuf allocation failed") and then crashes, and was wondering > if anyone else has seen similar behavior... > > For example... > > Yesterday... > $ netstat -m > 461/624/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 459 mbufs allocated to data > 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 434/490/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 1136 Kbytes allocated to network (36% of mb_map in use) > 0 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > Today... > $ netstat -m > 947/1072/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 945 mbufs allocated to data > 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 920/946/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 2160 Kbytes allocated to network (70% of mb_map in use) > 0 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > It appears that something is slowly eating up mbuf clusters. > The machine is on a network with continuous but very low volume > traffic, including some random multicast, NTP, etc. The machine > itself is doing hardly anything at all. Well, my current guess is that this is simply an NMBCLUSTERS problem. I increased NMBCLUSTERS to 8192 and it hasn't happened again yet. This machine has 5 ethernet interfaces, which must be probably more than the default NMBCLUSTERS can handle. I wonder if we should increase the default NMBCLUSTERS, or document somewhere that > 4 interfaces requires doing so? Thanks for all the suggestions... -Archie __________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Packet Design * http://www.packetdesign.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 10:34: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7EEC37B422 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:33:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oistrakh@earthlink.net) Received: from pirastro.oistrakh.org (user-2ivftm4.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.246.196]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14535; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (oistrakh@localhost) by pirastro.oistrakh.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35HXXk28243; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:33:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oistrakh@earthlink.net) X-Authentication-Warning: pirastro.oistrakh.org: oistrakh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:33:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Christian Chen X-X-Sender: To: Archie Cobbs Cc: Brett Glass , Subject: Re: PPPoE causes kernel panic In-Reply-To: <200104051711.f35HBEh73630@arch20m.dellroad.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I ran into this problem before. I was running the 4.2 Release (no updates), and updated my ppp to some patched-version that I got from some website (can't remember which one). The patch said that it updated ppp-2.4.0 to support PPPoE. Once I did that and recompiled the kernel with all the Netgraph stuff, I'd get a kernel panic whenever I started ppp. I recently re-installed 4.2 Release, without adding the ppp patch, and my PPPoE now works fine. I have a 3COM 3C905, using the miibus device. Christian Chen On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Brett Glass writes: > > Just tried to set up a PPPoE client on 4.3-RC2, but the machine > > regularaly page faulted in the kernel just as it tried to get online > > (that is, right after ppp said "Using interface: tun0.") The panic > > display said that the "current process" was ppp (not surprisingly) and > > that the CPU had gotten a page fault "while in kernel mode." The > > Netgraph, Netgraph sockets, Netgraph PPPoE, and Netgraph Ethernet modules > > were all compiled statically into the kernel and so didn't have to be loaded. > This is probably the known bug where certain Ethernet drivers > don't handle outgoing packets before being set to IFF_UP. > > What Ethernet driver are you using for the PPPoE traffic? > > -Archie > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Archie Cobbs * Packet Design * http://www.packetdesign.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 10:34:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9B637B505 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwalin@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from localhost (dwalin@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA59216 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:34:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from dwalin@haldjas.folklore.ee) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:34:36 +0200 (EET) From: Dwalin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: microuptime() went backwards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I am running a 4.3RC on Athlon 900. It started sending these messages to dmesg after I gzip/ed a 40MB file. (buildworld worked twice ok). microuptime() went backwards (30446.174953 -> 30446.073915) microuptime() went backwards (30446.115657 -> 30446.092275) microuptime() went backwards (30446.211406 -> 30446.143105) microuptime() went backwards (30446.157593 -> 30446.127132) ........... and continuing these messages as I write. Also mouse became invisible in X and I cannot change focus. Mouse works on text mode. Error message in X: Grabbing the mouse failed with "GrabInvalidTime" This is the second time it has crashed, previous one was similar. Sorry if I made a false alarm. Juhani Tali To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 10:39: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [63.114.185.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37F037B423; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:39:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.plten [10.0.0.106]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA26992; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:59:26 -0400 Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f35Hd1w03780; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:39:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:39:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200104051739.f35Hd1w03780@misha.privatelabs.com> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: ``MAKEDEV ad0e'' fails Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator: Mikhail Teterin >Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. >Confidential: no >Synopsis: ``MAKEDEV ad0e'' fails >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Category: bin >Class: sw-bug >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RC2 i386 >Environment: System: FreeBSD misha.privatelabs.com 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Fri Jan 26 14:34:59 EST 2001 root@minime.privatelabs.com:/home/obj/raid/src/sys/MISHA i386 >Description: cd /dev && sh MAKEDEV ad0e bad unit for disk in: ad0e Note, that this device is created by install, but for more drives one has to do things like ad8e, which is no longer possible :( root@misha:/dev (140) sh -x MAKEDEV ad0e + [ -n ] + PATH=/sbin:/bin + umask 77 + mknod=/sbin/mknod + IFS=: + echo /sbin /bin + [ -x /sbin/mknod ] + mknod=/sbin/mknod + break + dkrawpart=2 + dkcompatslice=0 + dkrawslice=1 + disk_umask=037 + tape_umask=017 + umask 037 + name=ad + chr=116 + expr ad0e : ..\(.*\) + unit=0e + echo bad unit for disk in: ad0e bad unit for disk in: ad0e + umask 77 >How-To-Repeat: See above. >Fix: Oh... Somewhere is the MAKEDEV... All I know is that it used to work less then a year ago, when I set up a few servers with "dangerously dedicated" drives and did not want to see the useless s1 in the fstab-files (ad8s1e still works fine, but ad8e should work too). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 10:43:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (fw-rl0.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E5937B423; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:43:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f35HhbU99132; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:43:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <200104051743.f35HhbU99132@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: bin/26368: ``MAKEDEV ad0e'' fails In-Reply-To: <200104051739.f35Hd1w03780@misha.privatelabs.com> "from Mikhail Teterin at Apr 5, 2001 01:39:01 pm" To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:43:37 +0200 (CEST) Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > cd /dev && sh MAKEDEV ad0e > bad unit for disk in: ad0e > > Note, that this device is created by install, but for more drives > one has to do things like ad8e, which is no longer possible :( Nope, you just use ad0 or ad8 and the devices you need will be made... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 10:59:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392B237B449 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:59:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@bolingbroke.com) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id f35HxPQ11070; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:59:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Steve Tremblett Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC In-Reply-To: <200104051347.JAA03586@sjt-u10.cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Steve Tremblett wrote: > I was under the impression that 4-STABLE was primarily for bugfixes > applied to the 4.2-RELEASE codebase, and 4-CURRENT is for development > of new features. Given that rationale, 4.3-RC should be a preliminary > merge of CURRENT code into STABLE. The intruduction of (relatively) > unproven code into an established as-stable-as-possible codebase > introduces instability until after it has been tested, therefore just > because 4.3-RC == 4-STABLE, that does not imply that 4.3-RC == stable. No, that's not how it works. It goes like this: 4.0-CURRENT -> 4.0-STABLE -> 4.1-RC -> 4.1-STABLE , etc There is no 4-CURRENT now. -CURRENT is currently 5.0-CURRENT. At some further point in time, 5.0-CURRENT will become 5.0-STABLE. But you'll never have another -CURRENT merged into 4-STABLE. And in the -STABLE branch, whatever the current name, the general idea is to introduce only small changes, bugfixes, security updates, and the like. So if you're following -STABLE at 4.2, you should be thinking of 4.2-STABLE as (4.2-RELEASE + bugfixes). And 4.3-RC would be (4.2-STABLE + more bugfixes). And 4.3-RELEASE will be (4.3-RC + yet more bugfixes). One difference is that commits are locked down in the -RC stage, so there's less change, less chance of things breaking when the branch is in the -RC stage. People tend to think it's a "beta" in the way Microsoft or other vendors might do a beta of their OS, but that's not how it works here. Given this, I feel that -RC is a safer bet than any arbitrary -STABLE, given that -STABLE is constantly changing, with less review than it gets in -RC. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 11:10:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B63A37B446; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:10:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (928 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:08:57 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:08:56 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Kherry Zamore , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su change? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 5 Apr 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > James Wyatt writes: > > Any experienced admin has plenty of tales (tightening access until telnet > > fails > > I consider this (telnetd not working) a feature. Not until you get sshd working! - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 11:28:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cisco.com (sword.cisco.com [161.44.208.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B1937B506 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjt@cisco.com) Received: from sjt-u10.cisco.com (sjt-u10.cisco.com [10.85.30.63]) by cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13254; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:27:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Tremblett Received: (sjt@localhost) by sjt-u10.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/CISCO.WS.1.2) id OAA04621; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104051827.OAA04621@sjt-u10.cisco.com> Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC To: freebsd@bolingbroke.com (Ken Bolingbroke) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Cc: sjt@cisco.com (Steve Tremblett), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Ken Bolingbroke" at Apr 05, 2001 10:59:25 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for clearing that up folks - much better. Sorry for the misunderstanding - some of the docs can be a little ambiguous. For the interest of others who are confused, this page writes it in stone: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/anoncvs.html So a minor release happens when bugfixes reach a critical mass? Are there any actual new features in 4.3 or simply fixes on top of 4.2-RELEASE? Do features from -CURRENT get migrated in if they are deemed stable enough to ship? +--- Ken Bolingbroke wrote: | | On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Steve Tremblett wrote: | | > I was under the impression that 4-STABLE was primarily for bugfixes | > applied to the 4.2-RELEASE codebase, and 4-CURRENT is for development | > of new features. Given that rationale, 4.3-RC should be a preliminary | > merge of CURRENT code into STABLE. The intruduction of (relatively) | > unproven code into an established as-stable-as-possible codebase | > introduces instability until after it has been tested, therefore just | > because 4.3-RC == 4-STABLE, that does not imply that 4.3-RC == stable. | | No, that's not how it works. It goes like this: | | 4.0-CURRENT -> 4.0-STABLE -> 4.1-RC -> 4.1-STABLE , etc | | There is no 4-CURRENT now. -CURRENT is currently 5.0-CURRENT. At some | further point in time, 5.0-CURRENT will become 5.0-STABLE. But you'll | never have another -CURRENT merged into 4-STABLE. | | And in the -STABLE branch, whatever the current name, the general idea is | to introduce only small changes, bugfixes, security updates, and the | like. So if you're following -STABLE at 4.2, you should be thinking of | 4.2-STABLE as (4.2-RELEASE + bugfixes). And 4.3-RC would be (4.2-STABLE + | more bugfixes). And 4.3-RELEASE will be (4.3-RC + yet more bugfixes). | | One difference is that commits are locked down in the -RC stage, so | there's less change, less chance of things breaking when the branch is in | the -RC stage. People tend to think it's a "beta" in the way Microsoft or | other vendors might do a beta of their OS, but that's not how it works | here. Given this, I feel that -RC is a safer bet than any arbitrary | -STABLE, given that -STABLE is constantly changing, with less review than | it gets in -RC. | | Ken | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message | | -- Steve Tremblett Cisco Systems To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 11:32:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4759037B449 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id B845F13615; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:32:32 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Steve Tremblett Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Message-ID: <20010405143232.A8051@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Steve Tremblett , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200104051827.OAA04621@sjt-u10.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104051827.OAA04621@sjt-u10.cisco.com>; from sjt@cisco.com on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 02:27:42PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 02:27:42PM -0400, Steve Tremblett wrote: >=20 > Thanks for clearing that up folks - much better. Sorry for the > misunderstanding - some of the docs can be a little ambiguous. For the > interest of others who are confused, this page writes it in stone: > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/anoncvs.html >=20 > So a minor release happens when bugfixes reach a critical mass? Are Generally, there are about 4 releases per year (every 3 months or so). > there any actual new features in 4.3 or simply fixes on top of both > 4.2-RELEASE? Do features from -CURRENT get migrated in if they are > deemed stable enough to ship? >=20 depends on the feature... see src/release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT for descriptions of changes between releases (Bruce Mah has been doing an excellent job of keeping this up-to-date). --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjrMukAACgkQObaG4P6BelCp/QCcCcm3v6aRD+ABABMg53rYFys7 ggUAn1jXo0hbu8Dzn7ZB9rwhhJVdqaL5 =yWBW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 12:21:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prism.flugsvamp.com (cb58709-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.17.241.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8165537B505 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:21:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@flugsvamp.com) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by prism.flugsvamp.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f35JFPf38752; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:15:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jlemon) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:15:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Lemon Message-Id: <200104051915.f35JFPf38752@prism.flugsvamp.com> To: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Answer Found: TCP New Reno algorithm X-Newsgroups: local.mail.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: Organization: Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you write: >No need to reply. Discovered that the Reno TCP algorithm is a rate >limiting algorithm for congested networks. Our network is chronically >congested, hence the slow Veritas backups. Actually, this is incorrect. TCP newreno is an algorithm for better recovery of lost packets, in the absence of a SACK implementation. newreno should improve performance during packet drops, not decrease it. I would be interested in seeing a tcpdump of the traffic, in order to see what is going wrong. Would it be possible to get a binary tcpdump (-w option) of the traffic stream on both machines? -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 12:27:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FDD37B423 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:27:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19589; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:27:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010405132632.00b48860@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:27:07 -0600 To: Archie Cobbs From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: PPPoE causes kernel panic Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200104051711.f35HBEh73630@arch20m.dellroad.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010402033656.044d5b70@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:11 AM 4/5/2001, Archie Cobbs wrote: >This is probably the known bug where certain Ethernet drivers >don't handle outgoing packets before being set to IFF_UP. > >What Ethernet driver are you using for the PPPoE traffic? fxp. Brian says that the problem with fxp was fixed, though. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 12:37:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [63.114.185.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542A137B42C; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:37:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.plten [10.0.0.106]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA28420; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:57:38 -0400 Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f35Jb4C04668; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:37:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.privatelabs.com) Message-Id: <200104051937.f35Jb4C04668@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:37:03 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: bin/26368: ``MAKEDEV ad0e'' fails To: Søren Schmidt Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200104051743.f35HhbU99132@freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 5 Apr, Søren Schmidt wrote: = It seems Mikhail Teterin wrote: = > = > cd /dev && sh MAKEDEV ad0e = > bad unit for disk in: ad0e = > = > Note, that this device is created by install, but for more drives = > one has to do things like ad8e, which is no longer possible :( = = Nope, you just use ad0 or ad8 and the devices you need will be made... Khmm, indeed, thanks. I guess, the priority of this bug should now go down, but it is still a bug, is not it? -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 12:41:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hercules.icarz.com (ns1.icarz.com [207.99.22.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0665937B43E for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kenm@icarz.com) Received: from newken (dhcp113.icarz.com [207.99.22.113]) by hercules.icarz.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f35Jf4202425 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <02ff01c0be08$5b848080$711663cf@icarz.com> From: "Ken Menzel" To: Subject: Test of RC1 fresh install Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:41:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thought I would try out my new FreeBSD release. I just installed FreeBSD on two new Dell servers here. (The same as all my other servers). But the tapes drives won't work! Any ideas on what I did wrong? I have three other servers running FreeBSD-stable with the same DELL hardware (2400) and tape drives that work fine (Installed on FBSD4.2) . Here is the error: janeway# mt status mt: /dev/nsa0: Device not configured janeway# However dmesg says differently: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) pass1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 1 pass1: Removable Changer SCSI-2 device pass1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit) pass4 at asr0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 pass4: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device output of uname FreeBSD janeway.icarz.com 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Thu Apr 5 12:24:51 EDT 2001 sysadm@janeway.icarz.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I tried rebuilding the kernel and sh MAKEDEV all, and a cvsup to today. What else should I do? Thanks! ----------------------------------------------------- Ken Menzel ICQ# 9325188 www.icarz.com kenm@icarz.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 12:52:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FE937B440; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:52:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 346A15D5E; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:52:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:52:11 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Matthew Rezny Cc: "net@freebsd.org" , "stable@freebsd.org" , "isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Intel Gigabit NIC problem Message-ID: <20010405215211.B80900@skriver.dk> References: <200104040849.DAA21587@mrelay.cc.umr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104040849.DAA21587@mrelay.cc.umr.edu>; from mrezny@umr.edu on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:49:22AM -0500 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:49:22AM -0500, Matthew Rezny wrote: > Does anyone have any idea what's going on, if there's any hope of fixing this, and what the solution would be? Thanks. Try http://www.flugsvamp.com/~jlemon/fbsd/drivers/Intel_Gigabit/ /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 13:40:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from farc.ikami.com (farc.ikami.com [204.29.203.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE7537B43C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:40:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nrh@ikami.com) Received: by farc.ikami.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 10E6B30114; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:40:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:40:39 -0500 From: nicholas harteau To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.2-RC & ipfilter Message-ID: <20010405154038.O64531@voyager.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm seeing an oddity on 4.2-RC with options IPFILTER ipfstat -io reports in and out reversed: [root@farc sys/compile/FARC] tail -9 /etc/ipf.rules block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 0 >< 22 block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 22 >< 25 block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 25 >< 53 block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 53 >< 80 block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 80 >< 113 block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 113 >< 1025 block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port = 3306 block return-icmp(13) in log proto udp from any to any port ne 53 block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 111 [root@farc sys/compile/FARC] ipfstat -io | tail -9 empty list for ipfilter(in) block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 0 >< 22 block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 22 >< 25 block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 25 >< 53 block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 53 >< 80 block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 80 >< 113 block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 113 >< 1025 block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port = 3306 block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto udp from any to any port != 53 block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp/udp from any to any port = sunrpc still functions fine, however (i.e. I'm blocking those in, not out) can someone confirm or deny this for me? I'm running a slightly mixed codebase right now, so this may be an erroneous report. -- nicholas harteau nrh@ikami.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 14:26:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E6937B42C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27229; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:25:49 +1000 (EST) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37645) with ESMTP id <01K22KSUUMDSS4MR7C@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:25:42 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f35LPk377639; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 07:25:46 +1000 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 07:25:46 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: TCP New Reno algorithm In-reply-to: <200104051637.f35GbnT96821@cwsys.cwsent.com>; from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:37:49AM -0700 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20010406072545.C66243@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <200104051637.f35GbnT96821@cwsys.cwsent.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-Apr-05 09:37:49 -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: [TCP New Reno kills Veritas backup throughput] I had the same problem in -CURRENT last August: newreno killed SSH throughput but didn't affect FTP. The problem in -CURRENT seems to have been fixed, but I'm not sure when/how. >What is the TCP New Reno algorithm supposed to do? Have a look at RFC2582 "The NewReno Modification to TCP's Fast Recovery Algorithm". Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 14:29:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uce55.uchaswv.edu (uce55.uchaswv.edu [12.4.161.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E642137B446 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:29:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mace_nathan@uchaswv.edu) Received: from nathan.uchaswv.edu ([172.16.33.110]) by uce55.uchaswv.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA13586 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: nmace85@yahoo.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fwd: Re: TCP New Reno algorithm Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:37:27 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040517372704.00660@nathan.uchaswv.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 14:52: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCF037B424 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:52:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f35Lr2U23210 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:53:03 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: In 4.3, in port mgetty, is -DAUTO_PPP set or no? Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:54:59 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone tell me if -DAUTO_PPP is set by default in the compiled mgetty that comes with the system? # Automatic PPP startup on receipt of LCP configure request (AutoPPP). # mgetty has to be compiled with "-DAUTO_PPP" for this to work. thanks Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 14:52:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EC337B424; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:52:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA67298; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:52:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: James Wyatt Cc: Kherry Zamore , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: su change? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 05 Apr 2001 23:52:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: James Wyatt's message of "Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:08:56 -0500 (CDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James Wyatt writes: > On 5 Apr 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > James Wyatt writes: > > > Any experienced admin has plenty of tales (tightening access until telnet > > > fails > > I consider this (telnetd not working) a feature. > Not until you get sshd working! - Jy@ But your box isn't on the net until you get sshd working, so what's the problem? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 15: 4:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from itouch.co.nz (itouch.co.nz [203.99.66.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E5237B43E; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@itouch.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by itouch.co.nz (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f35M44a46223; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:04:04 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:04:04 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Larry Librettez Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3-RC2 Message-ID: <20010406100404.E45169@itouchnz.itouch> References: <20010405164204.61452.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010405164204.61452.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com>; from lipshitz909@yahoo.com on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:42:04AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:42:04AM -0700, Larry Librettez wrote: > With 4.3-RC2, I cannot su to root in X using either > aterm, eterm, or rxvt terminals. However, in xterm or > gnome-terminal or at a plain console, I am able to do > so. (This was not a problem with 4.2-STABLE where I > could su to root in any type of terminal in X.) > > The problem occurs in both KDE and GNOME. I'm running: jonc-~,9:59am> uname -v FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Fri Apr 6 09:01:11 NZST 2001 root@jonc.itouch:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JONC With enlightenment, it appears to work fine under xterm and eterm. Have you tried *not* using KDE/GNOME, and using the windowmanager directly? Is your login.conf standard? cap_mkdb'd? Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "We laugh in the face of danger, we drop icecubes down the vest of fear" - Edmond Blackadder III To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 16:26:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB19337B422; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:26:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f35NQGm06889; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:26:16 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Larry Librettez Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3-RC2 Message-ID: <20010405162615.M17723@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20010405164204.61452.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010405164204.61452.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com>; from lipshitz909@yahoo.com on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:42:04AM -0700 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Larry Librettez [010405 09:42] wrote: > With 4.3-RC2, I cannot su to root in X using either > aterm, eterm, or rxvt terminals. However, in xterm or > gnome-terminal or at a plain console, I am able to do > so. (This was not a problem with 4.2-STABLE where I > could su to root in any type of terminal in X.) What does "id" say in aterm? what about on console? -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Represent yourself, show up at BABUG http://www.babug.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 16:48:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from technokratis.com (modemcable092.3-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.201.3.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E086637B43F; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:47:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmilekic@technokratis.com) Received: (from bmilekic@localhost) by technokratis.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f35Nmk523032; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:48:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmilekic) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:48:46 -0400 From: Bosko Milekic To: Archie Cobbs Cc: Archie Cobbs , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf leak? fxp? Message-ID: <20010405194846.A22964@technokratis.com> References: <200103312350.f2VNon305299@bubba.packetdesign.com> <200104051718.f35HIcF73652@arch20m.dellroad.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104051718.f35HIcF73652@arch20m.dellroad.org>; from archie@dellroad.org on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:18:38AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:18:38AM -0700, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Archie Cobbs writes: > > I have this machine that starts running out of mbufs every few days > > ("looutput: mbuf allocation failed") and then crashes, and was wondering > > if anyone else has seen similar behavior... > > > > For example... > > > > Yesterday... > > $ netstat -m > > 461/624/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > > 459 mbufs allocated to data > > 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers > > 434/490/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > > 1136 Kbytes allocated to network (36% of mb_map in use) > > 0 requests for memory denied > > 0 requests for memory delayed > > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > > > Today... > > $ netstat -m > > 947/1072/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > > 945 mbufs allocated to data > > 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers > > 920/946/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > > 2160 Kbytes allocated to network (70% of mb_map in use) > > 0 requests for memory denied > > 0 requests for memory delayed > > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > > > It appears that something is slowly eating up mbuf clusters. > > The machine is on a network with continuous but very low volume > > traffic, including some random multicast, NTP, etc. The machine > > itself is doing hardly anything at all. > > Well, my current guess is that this is simply an NMBCLUSTERS problem. > I increased NMBCLUSTERS to 8192 and it hasn't happened again yet. I kind of doubt that, judging simply from the netstat -m outputs you have posted above. In niether one is the number of clusters allocated meeting the maximum number of allocatable clusters. If it were the case, you would likely see some numbers for "requests for memory denied" and/or "requests for memory delayed." In any case, increasing NMBCLUSTERS to the number you mention is not a bad idea. > This machine has 5 ethernet interfaces, which must be probably more > than the default NMBCLUSTERS can handle. > > I wonder if we should increase the default NMBCLUSTERS, or document > somewhere that > 4 interfaces requires doing so? Well, the way it should be done is that `maxusers' should be increased, if anything. `maxusers' automatically tunes NMBCLUSTERS and NMBUFS accordingly. Chances are, if you are explicitly declaring `NMBCLUSTERS ' in your kernel configuration file, that you are actually lowering the number of clusters/mbufs that would otherwise be allowed with your given `maxusers' value (unless you have an unreasonably low maxusers). > Thanks for all the suggestions... > > -Archie > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Archie Cobbs * Packet Design * http://www.packetdesign.com Regards, -- Bosko Milekic bmilekic@technokratis.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 16:52:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cwst.ru (relay.cwst.ru [195.72.227.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3844A37B422 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@stmobile.ru) Received: from [195.72.254.83] (HELO bis-bsd.stm) by cwst.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with SMTP id 718589 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:47:22 +1100 Received: from bis-it.stm (unknown [10.0.1.101]) by bis-bsd.stm (Postfix) with SMTP id B3D374B8D for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:53:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:51:26 +1100 From: Valentin Gorshkov To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: timezone error X-Mailer: stuphead version 0.5.0 (GTK+ 1.2.8; FreeBSD 4.3-RC; i386) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="KOI8-R" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20010405235342.B3D374B8D@bis-bsd.stm> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Not sure this is the right place to write to. This is the menus from the sysinstall (selecting timezone) x x 10 Moscow+07 - Amur River x x x x 11 Moscow+08 - Magadan & Sakhalin x x I'm from Sakhalin. A couple or years ago we were transfered to timezone Moscow+07. Is it possible to fix this information in sysinstall? ------ ó Õ×ÁÖÅÎÉÅÍ, ÷ÁÌÅÎÔÉÎ çÏÒÛËÏ×, óÉÓÔÅÍÎÙÊ ÁÄÍÉÎÉÓÔÒÁÔÏÒ úáï "óô íÏÂÁÊÌ" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 17: 6:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dojo.tao.ca (tao.ca [198.96.117.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C139A37B43E for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:06:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anarcat@tao.ca) Received: by dojo.tao.ca (Postfix, from local user) id 666494E75; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:06:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:06:42 -0500 From: anarcat To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. Message-ID: <20010405190642.A28337@dojo> References: <20010404231722.A25165@dojo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010404231722.A25165@dojo>; from anarcat on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 23:17:23 -0500 X-Uptime: 6:52pm up 61 days, 20:38, 9 users, load average: 0.29, 0.48, 0.47 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again. I'm having a lot of problems recovering from last night's crash. I tried to make the world again to fix any possible data corruption.=20 The first attempt (make buildworld after a fresh cvsup) stopped at: =3D=3D=3D> gnu/usr.bin/man/makewhatis "/etc/objformat", line 0: Cannot open /etc/objformat make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/man. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. I don't understand what this means. The file is perfectly normal. anarcat@shall [anarcat]$ cat /etc/objformat=20 OBJFORMAT=3Delf anarcat@shall [anarcat]$=20 Also note that I have been able to successfully rebuild and install man subsequently (sp?) using cd make && make install ... I decided to make a new cvsup. Which did not update any file. Very well, let's try make buildworld again: cc -O -pipe -march=3Dpentium -I. -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=3D\"/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/gencheck.c In file included from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/gencheck.c:22: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/system.h:440: warning: `S_ISFIFO' redefined /usr/include/sys/stat.h:190: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/gencheck.c:22: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/system.h:473: unbalanced `#endif' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools. *** Error code 1 Then I try to rm -rf /usr/obj, no luck there either, same error as last. Now I'm really wondering what's going on.=20 I haven't been able to build a kernel either: mkdep -a -f .newdep -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls ... param.c vnode_if.c config.c ../../i386/i386/genassym.c In file included from ../../sys/vnode.h:517, from ../../kern/imgact_aout.c:44: vnode_if.h:899: unterminated macro call In file included from ../../sys/vnode.h:517, from ../../kern/imgact_elf.c:53: vnode_if.h:899: unterminated macro call In file included from ../../sys/vnode.h:517, from ../../kern/init_main.c:57: vnode_if.h:899: unterminated macro call In file included from ../../sys/vnode.h:517, from ../../kern/kern_linker.c:44: vnode_if.h:899: unterminated macro call vnode_if.h:1424: macro `__P' used with too many (39) args vnode_if.h:1438: macro `VDESC' used with too many (13) args vnode_if.h:1444: macro `VCALL' used with too many (25) args vnode_if.h:1460: macro `__P' used with too many (21) args vnode_if.h:1472: macro `VDESC' used with too many (10) args =2E... vnode_if.h:1981: macro `__P' used with too many (94) args vnode_if.h:2001: macro `VDESC' used with too many (15) args vnode_if.h:2013: macro `VCALL' used with too many (27) args In file included from ../../sys/vnode.h:517, from ../../kern/kern_ktrace.c:47: vnode_if.h:899: unterminated macro call vnode_if.h:1288: unterminated string or character constant vnode_if.h:1288: unterminated string or character constant vnode_if.h:1288: unterminated string or character constant shall# I anyone has any idea, his guess is as good as mine. My next step is to burn a RC image and try an upgrade procedure which would be a very big PITA. Or simply a backup and an install over (without touching /u :)... thanks for any hint A. --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrNCJEACgkQ7uV99pHLOSKDuQCfWkuSGEKKZpzcx8lP4mri0/pl 1JwAmwQYzv27qJygnP/WnHs44jir5rO9 =yAvm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 17:38: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C1C37B42C; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA55840; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:37:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:37:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: Archie Cobbs Cc: Archie Cobbs , , Subject: Re: mbuf leak? fxp? In-Reply-To: <200104051718.f35HIcF73652@arch20m.dellroad.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Archie Cobbs writes: > > I have this machine that starts running out of mbufs every few days > > ("looutput: mbuf allocation failed") and then crashes, and was wondering > > if anyone else has seen similar behavior... > > > > For example... > > > > Yesterday... > > $ netstat -m > > 461/624/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > > 459 mbufs allocated to data > > 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers > > 434/490/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > > 1136 Kbytes allocated to network (36% of mb_map in use) > > 0 requests for memory denied > > 0 requests for memory delayed > > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > > > Today... > > $ netstat -m > > 947/1072/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > > 945 mbufs allocated to data > > 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers > > 920/946/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > > 2160 Kbytes allocated to network (70% of mb_map in use) > > 0 requests for memory denied > > 0 requests for memory delayed > > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > > > It appears that something is slowly eating up mbuf clusters. > > The machine is on a network with continuous but very low volume > > traffic, including some random multicast, NTP, etc. The machine > > itself is doing hardly anything at all. > > Well, my current guess is that this is simply an NMBCLUSTERS problem. > I increased NMBCLUSTERS to 8192 and it hasn't happened again yet. > > This machine has 5 ethernet interfaces, which must be probably more > than the default NMBCLUSTERS can handle. Just a datapoint... I'm running a 4.3-BETA box with 8 fxp interfaces all on 100Mbit networks (several heavily trafficed, others spurious) and MAXUSERS set to 128, which gives me 2560 mbuf clusters: 565/2784/10240 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 537 mbufs allocated to data 28 mbufs allocated to packet headers 524/2038/2560 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 4772 Kbytes allocated to network (62% of mb_map in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines Could probably use a few more mbuf clusters, since its getting close, but read on... This box has been up for 22 days (been up for many moons before, but I wanted to test 4.3-BETA on it... yeah, its an "old" BETA already), and does LOTS of stuff in addition to routing across the 8 fxp interfaces, including ipfw with over 60 static rules and many hundreds of dynamic rules, just a little bit of NAT using natd, arpwatch and snort on about five of the interfaces, and Squid as a HTTP proxy with about 30GB of cache doing about 30000 requests/hour on average (handles about 60000 requests during the peak hour -- lunchtime). It still has plenty of power left over to run a distrubuted.net personal proxy and chew on lots of RC5 keys as well (I love FreeBSD). :-) Its doing pretty much the gamut of network related abuse you could do to a box -- routing on lots of interfaces, bpfilter (two per interface in most cases), ipfw, NAT, a fair amount of incoming and outgoing connections -- except I'm not doing anything Netgraph related (assuming you might be, being one who wrote it). Maybe its related to that? -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For IA32 and Alpha architectures. IA64, PPC, and ARM under development. http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 17:58:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uce55.uchaswv.edu (uce55.uchaswv.edu [12.4.161.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB56637B43E for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:58:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mace_nathan@uchaswv.edu) Received: from nathan.uchaswv.edu ([172.16.33.110]) by uce55.uchaswv.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA17279 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: nmace85@yahoo.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:06:18 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040521061800.00658@nathan.uchaswv.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 19:31: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45D037B422 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f362VoU24152 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:31:54 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: 4.3-RC . Is something wrong with PPP and or mgetty? Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:33:44 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Running mgetty and trying to do ppp from the laptop to the server... mgetty picks up the line ok, andswers the phone and everything appears to be normal. Except - I can not ping the server, nor can the server ping the laptop. Gateway is YES, buy the way.. The laptop is [203.1.96.3] and the server is [203.1.96.6] - the dns is [203.1.96.5]. Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 203.1.96.5 UGSc 11 6600 ed0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 1 lo0 203.1.96 link#1 UC 0 0 ed0 => 203.1.96.3 203.1.96.6 UH 0 0 tun0 I just recompiled mgetty, with -DAUTO_PPP and it makes not the slightest difference. (Is this the default in the PORTS? ) Strangly enough, the conneciton is made, it actualy logs into the server - but appears to be not able to do ppp over the line? Does any one know what may be wrong there? thanks. Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 19:46:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7114A37B505 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:46:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with SMTP id f362hvR10812; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:43:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <002d01c0be43$d420cea0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Robert" , "FreeBSD" References: Subject: Re: 4.3-RC . Is something wrong with PPP and or mgetty? Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:46:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Running mgetty and trying to do ppp from the laptop to the server... > > mgetty picks up the line ok, andswers the phone and everything appears to be > normal. > Except - I can not ping the server, nor can the server ping the laptop. > Gateway is YES, buy the way.. > > The laptop is [203.1.96.3] and the server is [203.1.96.6] - the dns is > [203.1.96.5]. > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > Expire > default 203.1.96.5 UGSc 11 6600 ed0 Shouldn't your default gateway be 203.1.96.6 - the server on the other end of the PPP link, rather than the (unreacheable) DNS server? -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 19:52:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.nc.rr.com (mail7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F75F37B424 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:52:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) Received: from stealth.dummynet ([24.25.3.190]) by mail7.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:52:43 -0400 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.dummynet (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f362ru446288 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:53:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:53:55 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: nm: libc.so.4: no symbols (Huh?) Message-ID: <20010405225355.A40150@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I can dump symbols from other .so's. Why not anything in /usr/lib? stealth : /usr/lib # nm -Bo libc.so.4 /usr/libexec/elf/nm: libc.so.4: no symbols This is 4.2-RELEASE BTW. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 19:59: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from squishycow.goldenterrace.com.au (squishycow.goldenterrace.com.au [203.41.110.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B11A37B449 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:59:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjhoran@goldenterrace.com.au) Received: by squishycow.goldenterrace.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AD40D19D07; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:59:02 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:59:02 +1000 From: Steve Horan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.3-RC /bin/sh weirdness Message-ID: <20010406125901.L52437@goldenterrace.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I've just spent the past few hours trying to figure out why for some unknown reason I couldn't get apache13-modssl port to build. It would just hang in configure stage. Not freeze machine, just sit there and do nothing. After putting some echo statements in the src/Configure script to see how far it was getting, I was noticing strange things, namely that the last echo statement I had wasn't getting outputted. My sources were cvsup'd about 18-24 hours ago. I have no problems building this port on my other machine (4.3-BETA) The section in the configure script that it plays funny buggers around is: (from /work/apache_1.3.19/src/Configure) echo " + setting C pre-processor to $CPP" #################################################################### ## Now check for existance of non-standard system header files ## and start generation of the ap_config_auto.h header ## AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H="include/ap_config_auto.h" echo "/*" >$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo " * ap_config_auto.h -- Automatically determined configuration stuff" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo " * THIS FILE WAS AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED - DO NOT EDIT!" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo " */" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo "" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo "#ifndef AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo "#define AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo " + checking for system header files" CHECK_FOR_HEADERS="dlfcn.h dl.h bstring.h crypt.h unistd.h sys/resource.h sys/select.h sys/processor.h sys/param.h" ( export CPP for header in $CHECK_FOR_HEADERS; do echo "" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo "/* check: #include <$header> */" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H name="`echo $header | sed -e 's:/:_:g' -e 's:\.:_:g' | tr '[a-z]' '[A-Z]'`" ./helpers/checkheader.sh $header if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then echo "#ifndef HAVE_${name}" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo "#define HAVE_${name} 1" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo "#endif" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H else echo "#ifdef HAVE_${name}" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo "#undef HAVE_${name}" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H echo "#endif" >>$AP_CONFIG_AUTO_H fi done ) Now, when configuring, it *does* print out " + setting C pre-processor yada yada" but nothing more after that. Adding another echo before the "checking for system header files" does out put so it's kind of odd. I got it to build by changing #!/bin/sh to #!/usr/local/bin/bash Hope this rings bells with someone, because it's way too bizarre and non-intuitive for me. sjh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 20: 3:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C192337B42C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:03:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3634GU24278 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:04:16 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: RE: 4.3-RC . Is something wrong with PPP and or mgetty? Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:06:11 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <002d01c0be43$d420cea0$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Except - I can not ping the server, nor can the server ping the laptop. > > Gateway is YES, buy the way.. > > > > The laptop is [203.1.96.3] and the server is [203.1.96.6] - the dns is > > [203.1.96.5]. > > > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > > Expire > > default 203.1.96.5 UGSc 11 6600 ed0 > > Shouldn't your default gateway be 203.1.96.6 - the server on the other end > of the PPP link, rather than the (unreacheable) DNS server? This is the routing table from the secondary server - 203.1.96.6. it's default is 5. [laptop-win98]--ppp-->[203.1.96.6-FreeBSD4.3-RC]<--Ethernet--> [203.1.96.5-FreeBSD]---->Internet bob > > -- > Matt Emmerton > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 20:26: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web13208.mail.yahoo.com (web13208.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 751E637B443 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lipshitz909@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010406032603.39450.qmail@web13208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [148.74.251.191] by web13208.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 20:26:03 PDT Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:26:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Librettez Subject: Re: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3-RC2 To: Jonathan Chen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010406100404.E45169@itouchnz.itouch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, the login.conf is the standard, unadulterated one and it has been cap_mkdb'd as well. I will try a different Window manager (currently using GNOME with Sawfish 0.38) and see if I get the same problems. Thanks for your input. Larry --- Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:42:04AM -0700, Larry > Librettez wrote: > > With 4.3-RC2, I cannot su to root in X using > either > > aterm, eterm, or rxvt terminals. However, in > xterm or > > gnome-terminal or at a plain console, I am able to > do > > so. (This was not a problem with 4.2-STABLE where > I > > could su to root in any type of terminal in X.) > > > > The problem occurs in both KDE and GNOME. > > I'm running: > > jonc-~,9:59am> uname -v > FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Fri Apr 6 09:01:11 NZST 2001 > root@jonc.itouch:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JONC > > With enlightenment, it appears to work fine under > xterm and eterm. Have > you tried *not* using KDE/GNOME, and using the > windowmanager directly? > Is your login.conf standard? cap_mkdb'd? > > Cheers. > -- > Jonathan Chen > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > "We laugh in the face of danger, we drop icecubes > down the vest of fear" > - > Edmond Blackadder III > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 20:30:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web13208.mail.yahoo.com (web13208.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 220C737B42C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lipshitz909@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010406033032.40261.qmail@web13208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [148.74.251.191] by web13208.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 20:30:32 PDT Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Librettez Subject: Re: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3-RC2 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010405162615.M17723@fw.wintelcom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG `id` is identical at both aterm, eterm, rxvt, and console: uid=1001(lipshitz) gid=1001(lipshitz) groups=1001(lipshitz), 0(wheel) --- Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Larry Librettez [010405 > 09:42] wrote: > > With 4.3-RC2, I cannot su to root in X using > either > > aterm, eterm, or rxvt terminals. However, in > xterm or > > gnome-terminal or at a plain console, I am able to > do > > so. (This was not a problem with 4.2-STABLE where > I > > could su to root in any type of terminal in X.) > > What does "id" say in aterm? what about on console? > > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein - > [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] > Represent yourself, show up at BABUG > http://www.babug.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 20:55:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1106.mail.yahoo.com (web1106.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF70B37B43F for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:55:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from galen_sampson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 6450 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Apr 2001 03:55:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20010406035551.6449.qmail@web1106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.5.146.158] by web1106.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 20:55:51 PDT Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:55:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Galen Sampson Subject: re: netstat To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Fixed my problem. I was indeed not using a kernel that was built with the updated source. I compiled my new kernel with 'make -kernel=sampson' and installed with 'make install -kernel=sampson' but did not set up boot.conf to boot that kernel =P. Thanks to all that replied. Couple of questions: 1) Is there any good reason why you would want to use the '-kernel=foo' other than customization? 2) I've noticed in the handbook that you can 'make all install' certain portions of the source tree and update your system. This seems appealing since you don't have to build anything and can update only certain parts (ntpd for instance). The question is should you go to single user mode (because of chflags being set or what not)? When is it ok to not go to single user mode and how can you tell? Galen Sampson >On Tuesday 03 April 2001 02:13, you wrote: >> Hi all, >> I have been experiencing some strange behavior with netstat. It only >> displays UDP sockets for the inet family. TCP sockets do not show up. I >> know it is listening on TCP sockets because I can ssh/telnet/ftp/etc to >> the machine. Netstat has been exhibiting this behavior from a make world >> 2 weeks ago. After updating my source tree today from cvsup10.freebsd.org >> and rebuilding the world I am getting the same symptoms. I'd love to put >> up some debug info for someone to figure this out, but I have know idea >> what to put. Is this problem just me? >> >> pointers/tips welcome >> >> Galen Sampson >> > >Hi Galen, > >Must be only you, I certainly don't have that problem. >4.3-RC2 from the CD. Sources have been upgraded, but haven't built world >yet. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 21: 5:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.tor.metronet.ca (ns2.metronet.ca [216.13.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C389837B449 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:05:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ve3wwg@home.com) Received: (qmail 305 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2001 04:04:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MACKENZIEFINANCIAL.COM) (198.96.223.195) by post.tor.metronet.ca with SMTP; 6 Apr 2001 04:04:19 -0000 Received: from home.com (d141-193-224.home.cgocable.net [24.141.193.224]) by MACKENZIEFINANCIAL.COM; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 00:04:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3ACD405A.656E26D0@home.com> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 00:04:42 -0400 From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3-RC2 References: <20010405164204.61452.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com> <20010405162615.M17723@fw.wintelcom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am not having su problems, but perhaps our problems are related somehow, since the "login" process is involved... I am running Exceed under Win98 to access my FreeBSD with xterm, to my now "4.3-RC2" box. It now hangs waiting to login (using the rlogin method). From my other FreeBSD machine (4.2-RELEASE), if I try to rlogin to my 4.3-RC2 box, it also hangs for a long time after I enter the password (approx 2-3 minutes). Then it finally plunks me into the shell as expected. From an existing session, the ps display shows that the login process is hung up waiting for something. Otherwise, its a mystery, and I cvsup-ed again today, hoping the problem would be fixed, but not so yet... here's hoping for tomorrow.. Warren. Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > * Larry Librettez [010405 09:42] wrote: > > With 4.3-RC2, I cannot su to root in X using either > > aterm, eterm, or rxvt terminals. However, in xterm or > > gnome-terminal or at a plain console, I am able to do > > so. (This was not a problem with 4.2-STABLE where I > > could su to root in any type of terminal in X.) > > What does "id" say in aterm? what about on console? > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] > Represent yourself, show up at BABUG http://www.babug.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://members.home.net/ve3wwg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 21:15: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.dellroad.org (adsl-63-194-81-26.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.81.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A275A37B507; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@dellroad.org) Received: from arch20m.dellroad.org (arch20m.dellroad.org [10.1.1.20]) by InterJet.dellroad.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA09479; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from archie@localhost) by arch20m.dellroad.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3644Fa75013; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:04:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200104060404.f3644Fa75013@arch20m.dellroad.org> Subject: Re: mbuf leak? fxp? In-Reply-To: <20010405194846.A22964@technokratis.com> "from Bosko Milekic at Apr 5, 2001 07:48:46 pm" To: Bosko Milekic Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bosko Milekic writes: > NMBUFS accordingly. Chances are, if you are explicitly declaring > `NMBCLUSTERS ' in your kernel configuration file, that you are > actually lowering the number of clusters/mbufs that would otherwise be > allowed with your given `maxusers' value (unless you have an unreasonably > low maxusers). Mmm.. I don't understand that.. can you explain? -Archie __________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Packet Design * http://www.packetdesign.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 21:18: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3066737B506 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:18:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f364HoV65786; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f364Ho506761; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104060417.f364Ho506761@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: wayne@staff.msen.com Subject: Re: cvsup dumps core In-Reply-To: <200104051720.NAA44550@manor.msen.com> References: <200104051720.NAA44550@manor.msen.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <200104051720.NAA44550@manor.msen.com>, Michael R. Wayne wrote: > > With the recent ntpd exploit, I wanted to update only the files > in /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpd. Based on the man page, I should > be able to use -i to do this. But cvsup seems pretty unhappy: > > 1162> /usr/local/bin/cvsup @M3stackdump -g -L 2 -i ntpd /usr/local/etc/stable-supfile I don't know why you got a core dump. It doesn't do that here when I try it. Unrelated to the core dump, you didn't use the -i option quite right. As the man page says: "The pattern is a standard file name pattern. It is interpreted relative to the collection's prefix directory." So you should have used "-i src/contrib/ntp/ntpd". John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 22:25:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web13201.mail.yahoo.com (web13201.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F8C937B443 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:25:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lipshitz909@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010406052508.16165.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [148.74.251.191] by web13201.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 22:25:08 PDT Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:25:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Librettez Subject: SOLVED: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3-RC2 To: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" , Alfred Perlstein Cc: Robert Watson , "T. William Wells" , Jonathan Chen , Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3ACD405A.656E26D0@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Problem solved. Turns out my use of "nonstandard" characters in my root password (like ^*&(@$#) were the cause of the problem. Specifically, use of the '(' character somehow was causing authentication problems with rxvt in X, thus disallowing su to root and the error "BAD SU to root on ttyp*". After changing my root password to no longer use the ( character, I now can su to root in rxvt, eterm, and aterm in 4.3RC. And thus the wild goose chase finally comes to an end. Again, strange that this was not causing difficulty with 4.2-STABLE, I only noticed it in 4.3-BETA and now in 4.3-RC1 and 4.3-RC2. Thank you all for your helpful suggestions, it helps to eliminate potential problems one by one. Larry --- "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" wrote: > I am not having su problems, but perhaps our > problems are related > somehow, since the "login" process is involved... > > I am running Exceed under Win98 to access my FreeBSD > with xterm, > to my now "4.3-RC2" box. > It now hangs waiting to login (using the rlogin > method). > > From my other FreeBSD machine (4.2-RELEASE), > if I try to rlogin to my 4.3-RC2 box, > it also hangs for a long time after I enter the > password (approx > 2-3 minutes). Then it finally plunks me into the > shell as expected. > > From an existing session, the ps display shows that > the login process > is hung up waiting for something. > > Otherwise, its a mystery, and I cvsup-ed again > today, hoping the problem > would be fixed, but not so yet... here's hoping for > tomorrow.. > > Warren. > > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > * Larry Librettez [010405 > 09:42] wrote: > > > With 4.3-RC2, I cannot su to root in X using > either > > > aterm, eterm, or rxvt terminals. However, in > xterm or > > > gnome-terminal or at a plain console, I am able > to do > > > so. (This was not a problem with 4.2-STABLE > where I > > > could su to root in any type of terminal in X.) > > > > What does "id" say in aterm? what about on > console? > > > > -- > > -Alfred Perlstein - > [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] > > Represent yourself, show up at BABUG > http://www.babug.org/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of > the message > > -- > Warren W. Gay VE3WWG > http://members.home.net/ve3wwg > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 22:31:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFB137B423; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:31:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19854; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:01:30 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010406052508.16165.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:03:01 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Larry Librettez Subject: RE: SOLVED: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Jonathan Chen , "T. William Wells" , Robert Watson , Alfred Perlstein , "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 06-Apr-2001 Larry Librettez wrote: > Problem solved. Turns out my use of "nonstandard" > characters in my root password (like ^*&(@$#) were the > cause of the problem. Specifically, use of the '(' > character somehow was causing authentication problems > with rxvt in X, thus disallowing su to root and the > error "BAD SU to root on ttyp*". After changing my > root password to no longer use the ( character, I now > can su to root in rxvt, eterm, and aterm in 4.3RC. > And thus the wild goose chase finally comes to an end. > > Again, strange that this was not causing difficulty > with 4.2-STABLE, I only noticed it in 4.3-BETA and now > in 4.3-RC1 and 4.3-RC2. > > Thank you all for your helpful suggestions, it helps > to eliminate potential problems one by one. You know I have a weird problem with aterm (which uses the rxvt core AFAIK).. When I run tclsh8.2 (or maybe 8.3?) on my 4-STABLE, XFree86 4 system either ( or ) (I can't remember which) generates a backspace (!) Related? --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 22:31:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-us4.philips.com (gw-us4.philips.com [63.114.235.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316CC37B424 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:31:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from founder.fang@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us4.philips.com with ESMTP id AAA21147 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:31:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from founder.fang@philips.com) From: founder.fang@philips.com Received: from smtprelay-asp1.philips.com(130.147.65.5) by gw-us4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma021138; Fri, 6 Apr 01 00:31:40 -0500 Received: from APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (aplms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.147.79.213]) by smtprelay-hk1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id NAA03553 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:31:37 +0800 (HKT) Received: by APLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via APAC id 0056920010465505; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:31:38 +0800 To: Subject: my i810 card doesn't work Message-ID: <0056920010465505000002L252*@MHS> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:31:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 04/06/01 13:34:02" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i use 4.2 release,my display card is i810,4.2 release does not contain = XFree86 4.0, so i download source for XFree86 4.02,after compile and install,i use X= F86Setup,but failed.it told me can not start X.what's the matter? i choose some X Server(VGA SVGA...) when i install my system,shall i re= move them before i install XFree86 4.02 ? = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 22:39: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from daconcepts.dyndns.org (wks-166-129-114.kscable.com [24.166.129.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB1D37B42C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:39:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from natedac@kscable.com) Received: from localhost (natedac@localhost) by daconcepts.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f365Vjv02650 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:31:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from natedac@kscable.com) X-Authentication-Warning: daconcepts.dyndns.org: natedac owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:31:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Nate Dannenberg X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Silo overflows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > With FreeBSD 4.3RC1 I am also seeing quite a few silo overflow messages > > sio0: 3 more silo overflows (total 61) > > I've been seeing these as well, and I'm using 4.3-RC. On a 550 MHz Athlon, I might add, at 38400 bps. I applied the patch mentioned yesterday, it seems to have helped, however I still see them occasionally. -- /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~___~~~~~\ | natedac@kscable.com //Z@|___ | | http://home.kscable.com/natedac |'(__ [_< | \_C64/C128_-_What's_*YOUR*_hobby?__\___|____/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 23:22:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from daconcepts.dyndns.org (wks-166-129-114.kscable.com [24.166.129.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8C137B422 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:22:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from natedac@kscable.com) Received: from localhost (natedac@localhost) by daconcepts.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f366ErK02688 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:14:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from natedac@kscable.com) X-Authentication-Warning: daconcepts.dyndns.org: natedac owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:13:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Nate Dannenberg X-X-Sender: Cc: Subject: Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > Hi gang - > > I quickly learned that RC is for Release Candidate, which would inticate to > me that it's somewhere between CURRENT and RELEASE, but nowhere near STABLE!! Actually, you got just what you wanted. See below: > 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I have been using? You specify it by using the RELENG_4 tag as you just did. The way I've learned it is like this: Every time you fetch the source code via CVSup, you are getting the latest developments and code adjustments in the branch you are fetching. In your case (and the rest of us on this mailing list I hope), that's the 4-STABLE branch, and it's probably as stable as you can get while staying more or less close to the leading edge. The 4-STABLE branch is the working name for the branch of code considered to be, you guessed it, stable. Conversely, the -CURRENT branch might be anything but stable on any given day. You could think of it as a "wide alpha" for FreeBSD v5.0. That -STABLE branch is the code base used to create the different -RELEASE, -BETA, and -RC stages that you've discovered. Each is pretty much a timed snapshot of the -STABLE branch, taken at various times. The -BETA and -RC stages are indicators of how close we are to the next minor version (4.3 versus 4.2), and are generally taken several weeks prior to release time. The last -RC stage (-RC2 this time, I believe) lasts for two or three weeks, and if all is well, is snapshotted and named 4.3-RELEASE (this is what you get from a binary-only CD or FTP install). I guess the 4-STABLE branch will always be 4-STABLE (regardless of the minor version number or the current snapshot's name) until it merges with (or is replaced by) 5-CURRENT. At that point, it would probably be renamed to 5-STABLE, and 6-CURRENT will probably be started as a separate branch. I'm sure someone will correct me where I've messed this description up ;) > 2.) is this a mistake? If so, when will it be corrected? Nope, and probably never, since it ain't broke ;) -- /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~___~~~~~\ | natedac@kscable.com //Z@|___ | | http://home.kscable.com/natedac |'(__ [_< | \_C64/C128_-_What's_*YOUR*_hobby?__\___|____/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 23:30: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B57F37B446 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f366V0U25006 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:31:01 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: 4.3-Rc, UserPPP and gatewaying???? mystery to me. Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:32:52 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to those offering helpfull advice. I appreciate it. I do love 4.3, compared to 2.2 it's very clever. I still have this problem of course - and cant' figure it out at all.. I have mgetty configured on the secondary server (on the ethernet), and AutoPPP working fine. I can dial in to the server with a '98 Laptop, and it connects and I can talk to the server - and the server can talk to me. However, that's all I can see. The server can talk to me. I can talk to the server. The server can see the rest of the network, and the internet - ....but nothing else but that server can see me. ========= rc.conf ========= defaultrouter="NO" static_routes="" gateway_enable="YES" router_enable="NO" mrouted_enable="NO" forward_sourceroute="YES" accept_sourceroute="YES" ............................ ======= /etc/ppp/ppp.conf ========= pap: allow users merlin set log Phase Chat Connect IPCP enable pap enable chap enable passwdauth set timeout 900 accept dns accept chap #enable proxy set dns 203.1.96.5 203.1.96.6 set nbns 203.1.96.26 add default HISADDR .............................. When I had the modem, and the same setup on the main server (2.2) it workes fine. Move it to the secondary, almost the same basic setup - and the server seems to be refusing to pass the packets through the system. oh well. One keeps trying I suppose. There's something there I'm missing. In summary: Everything connects fine, just the 4.3 isn't exchanging packets from the ppp interface with the rest of the network. any ideas? Tnaks Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Apr 5 23:34:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3D237B43C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:34:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id svuaaaaa for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:34:37 +1000 Message-ID: <3ACD6449.4DF7D0F1@quake.com.au> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 16:38:01 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nate Dannenberg Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thats a good answer, but the simple version is this: Basicaly RELEASE is a snapshot of the stable branch that is going to be distributed via the CD-Rom sets, Its still part of stable! The RC means the code as been frozen and only bug fixes etc will be allowed in... Really once we get it RC its the stablest of the stable branch at the current time... So in other words you got what you wanted :) Nate Dannenberg wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > > > Hi gang - > > > > I quickly learned that RC is for Release Candidate, which would inticate to > > me that it's somewhere between CURRENT and RELEASE, but nowhere near STABLE!! > > Actually, you got just what you wanted. See below: > > > 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I have been using? > > You specify it by using the RELENG_4 tag as you just did. > > The way I've learned it is like this: > > Every time you fetch the source code via CVSup, you are getting the latest > developments and code adjustments in the branch you are fetching. In your > case (and the rest of us on this mailing list I hope), that's the 4-STABLE > branch, and it's probably as stable as you can get while staying more or > less close to the leading edge. > > The 4-STABLE branch is the working name for the branch of code considered > to be, you guessed it, stable. Conversely, the -CURRENT branch might be > anything but stable on any given day. You could think of it as a "wide > alpha" for FreeBSD v5.0. > > That -STABLE branch is the code base used to create the different > -RELEASE, -BETA, and -RC stages that you've discovered. Each is pretty > much a timed snapshot of the -STABLE branch, taken at various times. > > The -BETA and -RC stages are indicators of how close we are to the next > minor version (4.3 versus 4.2), and are generally taken several weeks > prior to release time. The last -RC stage (-RC2 this time, I believe) > lasts for two or three weeks, and if all is well, is snapshotted and named > 4.3-RELEASE (this is what you get from a binary-only CD or FTP install). > > I guess the 4-STABLE branch will always be 4-STABLE (regardless of the > minor version number or the current snapshot's name) until it merges with > (or is replaced by) 5-CURRENT. At that point, it would probably be > renamed to 5-STABLE, and 6-CURRENT will probably be started as a separate > branch. > > I'm sure someone will correct me where I've messed this description up ;) > > > 2.) is this a mistake? If so, when will it be corrected? > > Nope, and probably never, since it ain't broke ;) > > -- > /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~___~~~~~\ > | natedac@kscable.com //Z@|___ | > | http://home.kscable.com/natedac |'(__ [_< | > \_C64/C128_-_What's_*YOUR*_hobby?__\___|____/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 0:20: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hamberg.it.uu.se (hamberg.it.uu.se [130.238.9.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE5137B505 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@csd.uu.se) Received: (from ertr1013@localhost) by hamberg.it.uu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05083 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:20:03 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:20:03 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Message-ID: <20010406092003.A4775@student.uu.se> References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from natedac@kscable.com on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:13:32AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:13:32AM -0500, Nate Dannenberg wrote: > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > > > Hi gang - > > > > I quickly learned that RC is for Release Candidate, which would inticate to > > me that it's somewhere between CURRENT and RELEASE, but nowhere near STABLE!! > > Actually, you got just what you wanted. See below: > > > 1.) is there a way to specify 4.2-STABLE, which is what I have been using? > > You specify it by using the RELENG_4 tag as you just did. > > The way I've learned it is like this: > > Every time you fetch the source code via CVSup, you are getting the latest > developments and code adjustments in the branch you are fetching. In your > case (and the rest of us on this mailing list I hope), that's the 4-STABLE > branch, and it's probably as stable as you can get while staying more or > less close to the leading edge. > > The 4-STABLE branch is the working name for the branch of code considered > to be, you guessed it, stable. Conversely, the -CURRENT branch might be > anything but stable on any given day. You could think of it as a "wide > alpha" for FreeBSD v5.0. > > That -STABLE branch is the code base used to create the different > -RELEASE, -BETA, and -RC stages that you've discovered. Each is pretty > much a timed snapshot of the -STABLE branch, taken at various times. > > The -BETA and -RC stages are indicators of how close we are to the next > minor version (4.3 versus 4.2), and are generally taken several weeks > prior to release time. The last -RC stage (-RC2 this time, I believe) > lasts for two or three weeks, and if all is well, is snapshotted and named > 4.3-RELEASE (this is what you get from a binary-only CD or FTP install). > So far it is correct. > I guess the 4-STABLE branch will always be 4-STABLE (regardless of the > minor version number or the current snapshot's name) until it merges with > (or is replaced by) 5-CURRENT. At that point, it would probably be > renamed to 5-STABLE, and 6-CURRENT will probably be started as a separate > branch. This is not quite right. 4-STABLE will always be 4-STABLE, just like we still have 3-STABLE and 2.2-STABLE. (Although the latter don't really see any changes these days.) What will happen is that eventually 5-CURRENT will be branched into 5-STABLE from which a 5.0-RELEASE snapshot will be made. Once the 5-STABLE branch has been created -CURRENT will be known as 6-CURRENT. > > I'm sure someone will correct me where I've messed this description up ;) Of course :-) > > > 2.) is this a mistake? If so, when will it be corrected? > > Nope, and probably never, since it ain't broke ;) > -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 0:22:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boco.fee.vutbr.cz (boco.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.9.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7518337B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:22:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz) Received: from kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz (kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.8.12]) by boco.fee.vutbr.cz (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f367Mht65291 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK) for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:22:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from cejkar@localhost) by kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f367MhG48522 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:22:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:22:43 +0200 From: Cejka Rudolf To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: About NFS and NFSv3/UDP errors with iozone Message-ID: <20010406092243.A47655@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm trying to test NFS stability in 4.2-STABLE and I have some problems with NFSv3/UDP (however, I'm very happy that FreeBSD 4.2 NFS server running NFSv3 no longer reboots): Server is FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE, client is Solaris 7 on E450. I'm using following script with "iozone -a" ($Revision: 3.24 $): -- VER=3 # 2 or 3 PRO=udp # tcp or udp mount -o nosuid,rw,vers=${VER},proto=${PRO},intr,soft freebsd:/export /mnt ( cd /mnt ; iozone -a ) > iozone.${VER}.${PRO}.output umount /mnt -- Combinations 2/TCP, 2/UDP and 3/TCP run fine, but 3/UDP repeatedly reports "RPC: Timed out" (always in last section, where column KB is 524288), for example: # ./run.sh NFS setattr failed for server kunhuta: error 5 (RPC: Timed out) fdopen: Connection timed out Please, is it reproducible on the other sites? Or is it a natural behavior because of UDP protocol use? -- Rudolf Cejka (cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz; http://www.fee.vutbr.cz/~cejkar) Brno University of Technology, Faculty of El. Engineering and Comp. Science Bozetechova 2, 612 66 Brno, Czech Republic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 0:27:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (64-205-228-106.client.dsl.net [64.205.228.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3958437B50C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:27:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@jason.argos.org) Received: (from mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f367R4Z15333; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:27:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:27:04 -0400 From: Mike Nowlin To: Robert Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3-Rc, UserPPP and gatewaying???? mystery to me. Message-ID: <20010406032704.A15254@argos.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from robert@chalmers.com.au on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 04:32:52PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > oh well. One keeps trying I suppose. There's something there I'm missing. > In summary: > Everything connects fine, just the 4.3 isn't exchanging packets from the ppp > interface with the rest of the network. Biggest thing everyone forgets - make sure that you have packet forwarding turned on... If I remember correctly, this can be done with a sysctl value, or (the normal way) by defining IPFIREWALL_FORWARD in your kernel config file. After that, it's usually just a matter of making sure your firewall rules allow the appropriate packet-passing. Details upon request - I'm too tired to think about it now... mike (Oh, yea - set 'gateway_enable="YES"' in /etc/rc.conf - important!) --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrNb8gACgkQJol4I8h9Gd80nQCfcltmn1bTr13xoYK0desI1OxE kfkAn2kaTionb7DT79K+XlUSNm0O9RbJ =WT6K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 0:33:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germes.levi.spb.ru (ip65.levi.spb.ru [212.119.175.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D7037B424; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:33:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dms@wplus.net) Received: from wplus.net (IDENT:dms@pike.levi.spb.ru [10.246.8.43]) by germes.levi.spb.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f367Va712312; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:31:45 +0400 Message-ID: <3ACD70D8.3F14CD6@wplus.net> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:31:36 +0400 From: Dmitry Samersoff Organization: LeviSoft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bosko Milekic Cc: Archie Cobbs , Archie Cobbs , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mbuf leak? fxp? References: <200103312350.f2VNon305299@bubba.packetdesign.com> <200104051718.f35HIcF73652@arch20m.dellroad.org> <20010405194846.A22964@technokratis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bosko Milekic wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:18:38AM -0700, Archie Cobbs wrote: > > Archie Cobbs writes: > > > I have this machine that starts running out of mbufs every few days > > > ("looutput: mbuf allocation failed") and then crashes, and was wondering > > > if anyone else has seen similar behavior... > > > > > > For example... > > > > > > Yesterday... > > > $ netstat -m > > > 461/624/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > > > 459 mbufs allocated to data > > > 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers > > > 434/490/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > > > 1136 Kbytes allocated to network (36% of mb_map in use) > > > 0 requests for memory denied > > > 0 requests for memory delayed > > > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > > > > > Today... > > > $ netstat -m > > > 947/1072/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > > > 945 mbufs allocated to data > > > 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers > > > 920/946/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > > > 2160 Kbytes allocated to network (70% of mb_map in use) > > > 0 requests for memory denied > > > 0 requests for memory delayed > > > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > > > > > It appears that something is slowly eating up mbuf clusters. > > > The machine is on a network with continuous but very low volume > > > traffic, including some random multicast, NTP, etc. The machine > > > itself is doing hardly anything at all. > > > > Well, my current guess is that this is simply an NMBCLUSTERS problem. > > I increased NMBCLUSTERS to 8192 and it hasn't happened again yet. > > I kind of doubt that, judging simply from the netstat -m outputs > you have posted above. In niether one is the number of clusters allocated > meeting the maximum number of allocatable clusters. If it were the case, you > would likely see some numbers for "requests for memory denied" and/or > "requests for memory delayed." > In any case, increasing NMBCLUSTERS to the number you mention is > not a bad idea. > > > This machine has 5 ethernet interfaces, which must be probably more > > than the default NMBCLUSTERS can handle. > > > > I wonder if we should increase the default NMBCLUSTERS, or document > > somewhere that > 4 interfaces requires doing so? > > Well, the way it should be done is that `maxusers' should be > increased, if anything. `maxusers' automatically tunes NMBCLUSTERS and > NMBUFS accordingly. Chances are, if you are explicitly declaring > `NMBCLUSTERS ' in your kernel configuration file, that you are > actually lowering the number of clusters/mbufs that would otherwise be > allowed with your given `maxusers' value (unless you have an unreasonably > low maxusers). I always increase NMBCLASTERS instead increasing MAXUSER if I only need more networks, because increasing maxuser slow down FreeBSD. I also have a number of problems with modern Intel ethernet cards, probably (but I'm not sure) FreeBSD 4.2 fxp driver not 100% compatible with the latest one. (Intel PRO/100+ Fast Ethernet Controller (82559) on Mother Board) -- Dmitry Samersoff, dms@wplus.net, ICQ:3161705 http://devnull.wplus.net * There will come soft rains ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 1:52: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D7C37B440 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:52:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f368r7U25430 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:53:09 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: a bit of an update needed here maybe .... Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:54:58 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 15.4. Dial-in Service Contributed by Guy Helmer . This document provides suggestions for configuring a FreeBSD system to handle dial-up modems. This document is written based on the author's experience with .......... FreeBSD versions 1.0, 1.1, and 1.1.5.1 (and experience with dial-up modems on other UNIX-like operating systems); .......... however, this document may not answer all of your questions or provide examples specific enough to your environment. The author cannot be responsible if you damage your system or lose data due to attempting to follow the suggestions here. 15.4.1. Prerequisites To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 2:51:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.org.ru (sweet.etrust.ru [194.84.67.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E815437B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from osa@freebsd.org.ru) Received: by freebsd.org.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D446557; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:51:41 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:51:41 +0400 From: "Sergey A. Osokin" To: Robert Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: In 4.3, in port mgetty, is -DAUTO_PPP set or no? Message-ID: <20010406135141.B2423@freebsd.org.ru> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from robert@chalmers.com.au on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 07:54:59AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 07:54:59AM +1000, Robert wrote: > > Can someone tell me if -DAUTO_PPP is set by default in the compiled mgetty > that comes with the system? > > # Automatic PPP startup on receipt of LCP configure request (AutoPPP). > # mgetty has to be compiled with "-DAUTO_PPP" for this to work. $ grep AUTO /usr/ports/comms/mgetty+sendfax/files/* /usr/ports/comms/mgetty+sendfax/files/patch-ab:+CFLAGS+=-DAUTO_PPP I think AUTO_PPP is ON. -- Rgdz, /"\ Sergey Osokin aka oZZ, \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN osa@freebsd.org.ru X AGAINST HTML MAIL http://freebsd.org.ru/~osa/ / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 2:55:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 009E137B43E for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:55:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iedowse@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 6 Apr 2001 10:55:15 +0100 (BST) To: Cejka Rudolf Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, iedowse@maths.tcd.ie Subject: Re: About NFS and NFSv3/UDP errors with iozone In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 06 Apr 2001 09:22:43 +0200." <20010406092243.A47655@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:55:14 +0100 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200104061055.aa15749@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010406092243.A47655@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz>, Cejka Rudolf writes: > ># ./run.sh >NFS setattr failed for server kunhuta: error 5 (RPC: Timed out) >fdopen: Connection timed out > >Please, is it reproducible on the other sites? >Or is it a natural behavior because of UDP protocol use? If this is what I think it is, then you could work around it by either adding "-d,-t2" to the mount options, or don't use the "soft" option. Normally (without "-d") NFS maintains round-trip-time estimates for different types of operations. It uses these measured times to dynamically adjust the timeout for requests. However, because write operations have such a large variance in completion time, it can occasionally time out a request when the server is just very slow to respond. This might happen if a number of requests completed very quickly (say 1ms), and then due to disk activity on the server, one request takes much longer (say 1s). The "-d" (dumbtimer) option switches off the dynamic retransmit timeout algorithm. Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 3: 7:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prime.bit.ab.ru (prime.bit.ab.ru [212.94.98.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4785C37B496 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:07:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@bit.ab.ru) Received: from bit.ab.ru (bbs.bit.ab.ru [192.168.22.27]) by prime.bit.ab.ru (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f36A7Nt16556 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:07:24 +0700 (OSS) Message-ID: <3ACD955C.9220E123@bit.ab.ru> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 17:07:24 +0700 From: Alex Masterov X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (OS/2; U) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 3:17:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dilbert.fcg.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.203.69.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1F037B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:17:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk) Received: from pfrench by dilbert.fcg.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14lTJ2-0002Bh-00; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:17:28 +0100 To: natedac@kscable.com Subject: Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:17:28 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG suggest. could wwe, in future name the release candidates 4.3-STABLE-RC which might reduce confusion and list noise a bit ? -pete. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 3:34:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1E737B43E for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:34:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDA110F400; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:34:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001f01c0be85$18732120$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Alex Masterov" , References: <3ACD955C.9220E123@bit.ab.ru> Subject: Re: (no subject) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:34:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Access Denied, please try again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Masterov" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 5:07 AM Subject: (no subject) > subscribe freebsd-stable > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 3:54:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E7837B443 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:54:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antony@abacus.co.uk) Received: from abacus.co.uk (pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA30510; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:50:59 +0100 Message-ID: <3ACD9FE9.6122E741@abacus.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:52:25 +0100 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendto: No buffer space available References: <986172398.3ac7cbee50610@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As a related sidenote, I have a heavily used FreeBSD 3.x which never suffers from this problem, yet a relatively lightly used FreeBSD 4.x box does experience this problem. Both are identical spec hardware. -- ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 > The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 6:29:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from farc.ikami.com (farc.ikami.com [204.29.203.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8743B37B43F for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nrh@ikami.com) Received: by farc.ikami.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0B329300F3; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:29:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:29:40 -0500 From: nicholas harteau To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2...er 3-RC & ipfilter Message-ID: <20010406082940.D3716@voyager.net> References: <20010405154038.O64531@voyager.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010405154038.O64531@voyager.net>; from nrh@ikami.com on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:40:39PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm sorry, this is 4.3-RC, I'm just a little slow sometimes. Maybe that's why noone responded to my message ;) nicholas harteau wrote: > > I'm seeing an oddity on 4.2-RC with options IPFILTER > > ipfstat -io reports in and out reversed: > [root@farc sys/compile/FARC] tail -9 /etc/ipf.rules > block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 0 >< 22 > block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 22 >< 25 > block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 25 >< 53 > block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 53 >< 80 > block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 80 >< 113 > block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port 113 >< 1025 > block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp from any to any port = 3306 > block return-icmp(13) in log proto udp from any to any port ne 53 > block return-icmp(13) in log proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 111 > [root@farc sys/compile/FARC] ipfstat -io | tail -9 > empty list for ipfilter(in) > block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 0 >< 22 > block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 22 >< 25 > block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 25 >< 53 > block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 53 >< 80 > block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 80 >< 113 > block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port 113 >< 1025 > block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp from any to any port = 3306 > block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto udp from any to any port != 53 > block return-icmp(filter-prohib) out log proto tcp/udp from any to any port = sunrpc > > still functions fine, however (i.e. I'm blocking those in, not out) > > can someone confirm or deny this for me? I'm running a slightly mixed > codebase right now, so this may be an erroneous report. > > > -- > nicholas harteau > nrh@ikami.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- nicholas harteau nrh@ikami.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 6:59:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A90437B43F for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:59:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: by gw.nectar.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B0A5A18C98; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:59:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:59:12 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: Daniel O'Connor Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOLVED: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3 Message-ID: <20010406085912.A20772@spawn.nectar.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010406052508.16165.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from doconnor@gsoft.com.au on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 03:03:01PM +0930 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 03:03:01PM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > You know I have a weird problem with aterm (which uses the rxvt core AFAIK).. > When I run tclsh8.2 (or maybe 8.3?) on my 4-STABLE, XFree86 4 system either ( or ) > (I can't remember which) generates a backspace (!) > > Related? Uh oh, I have this, too, on my laptop. I noticed it several days ago, but promptly forgot about it when I moved on to do something else. In my case, I was trying to do something interactively with guile -- you can imagine how impossible that is without '(' :-) $ uname -a FreeBSD ophelia.nectar.com 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #3: Sun Mar 18 19:13:38 CST 2001 root@ophelia.nectar.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/OPHELIA i386 $ echo '(no problem with parens here)' (no problem with parens here) $ cat Hell Hell $ With the `cat', I actually typed `Hello(\n'. $ stty -a speed 38400 baud; 24 rows; 80 columns; lflags: icanon isig iexten echo echoe echok echoke -echonl echoctl -echoprt -altwerase -noflsh -tostop -flusho pendin -nokerninfo -extproc iflags: -istrip icrnl -inlcr -igncr ixon -ixoff -ixany imaxbel -ignbrk brkint -inpck ignpar -parmrk oflags: opost onlcr -ocrnl -oxtabs -onocr -onlret cflags: cread cs8 -parenb -parodd -hupcl -clocal -cstopb -crtscts -dsrflow -dtrflow -mdmbuf cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = (; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ^G; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; Hmm, somewhere erase2 is getting set to the left paren. This is happening with xterm and rxvt, but not on the console. I can't reproduce it on my desktop, which is running the same version of FreeBSD and XFree86. I guess now that I'm aware of it again I'll try to figure out what is going on. Hints welcome. Cheers, -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 8:51:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from galaxy.michix.net (Galaxy.michix.net [207.241.132.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30AA37B43F for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:51:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gardner@journey.com) Received: from journey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by galaxy.michix.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f36E03604502 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:00:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gardner@journey.com) Message-ID: <3ACDCBE3.4B161EDC@journey.com> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:00:03 -0400 From: Jeff Gardner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: telnet differences. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am not sure which mailing list to send such trivial questions to so I apologize in advance for posting incorrectly. However, I have two questions which are puzzling me and I could not find any information on them. I just used cvsup to update my sources and did the whole make buildworld thing and noticed the following. When I telnet to my box from a 4.3-RC2 I get no "FreeBSD/i386 (hostname) (tty)" type banner string. Yet, If I telnet in from a non-freebsd box, I get the banner string. What is telnet now doing differently between freebsd boxes? Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 8:51:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from galaxy.michix.net (Galaxy.michix.net [207.241.132.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E6B37B424; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:51:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gardner@journey.com) Received: from journey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by galaxy.michix.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f365kP603541; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:46:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gardner@journey.com) Message-ID: <3ACD5831.4C52649F@journey.com> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 01:46:25 -0400 From: Jeff Gardner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: telnet and uname -r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am not sure which mailing list to send such trivial questions to so I apologize in advance for posting incorrectly. However, I have two questions which are puzzling me and I could not find any information on them. I just used cvsup to update my sources and did the whole make buildworld thing and noticed the following. When I telnet to my box from a 4.3-RC2 I get no "FreeBSD/i386 (hostname) (tty)" type banner string. Yet, If I telnet in from a non-freebsd box, I get the banner string. What is telnet now doing differently between freebsd boxes? Second, if 4.3-RC2 was released and I just cvsup to RELENG_4 (4.x-STABLE) and my uname -r responds with 4.3-RC. What is the strategy behind that? Jeff - who is trying to understand the FreeBSD development strategy better To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 9:40:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C06037B446 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:40:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA66453; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:39:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:39:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Subject: Re: TCP New Reno algorithm In-Reply-To: <200104051637.f35GbnT96821@cwsys.cwsent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > Since upgrading some of our FreeBSD systems to the latest -stable, > we've noticed that our Veritas backup throughput from the upgraded > FreeBSD clients to our Veritas server, a Sun 450, had dropped to > about 3 packets per second. Disabling the TCP New Reno algorithm > (sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.newreno=0) returned our Veritas backup > throughput to about 70 packets per second. I just did a quick test with Veritas NetBackup BusinesServer 3.4 running on NT4 and FreeBSD 3.4-RC using the native FreeBSD NetBackup client. For a particular backup set (about 450MB), with New Reno enabled I get 3404.282KB/sec, and without New Reno I get 3192.508KB/sec. This is a backup to a local disk on the NT4 box, not tape, so tape throughput isn't a limiting factor. Turning off New Reno actually hurt throughput just a little bit. The client and server aren't on the same 100MBit Ethernet network, they're separated by another FreeBSD 3.4-RC (New Reno enabled) box acting as a router. Maybe you're seeing a bad New Reno interaction with Solaris itself? -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For IA32 and Alpha architectures. IA64, PPC, and ARM under development. http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 10: 1:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F28D37B43C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:01:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA16698; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:01:53 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda16695; Fri Apr 6 10:01:46 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f36H1fB63336; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104061701.f36H1fB63336@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdc63332; Fri Apr 6 10:00:51 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: cyschubert To: Chris Dillon Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCP New Reno algorithm In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:39:36 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:00:50 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Ch ris Dillon writes: > On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > Since upgrading some of our FreeBSD systems to the latest -stable, > > we've noticed that our Veritas backup throughput from the upgraded > > FreeBSD clients to our Veritas server, a Sun 450, had dropped to > > about 3 packets per second. Disabling the TCP New Reno algorithm > > (sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.newreno=0) returned our Veritas backup > > throughput to about 70 packets per second. > > I just did a quick test with Veritas NetBackup BusinesServer 3.4 > running on NT4 and FreeBSD 3.4-RC using the native FreeBSD NetBackup > client. For a particular backup set (about 450MB), with New Reno > enabled I get 3404.282KB/sec, and without New Reno I get > 3192.508KB/sec. This is a backup to a local disk on the NT4 box, not > tape, so tape throughput isn't a limiting factor. Turning off New > Reno actually hurt throughput just a little bit. The client and > server aren't on the same 100MBit Ethernet network, they're separated > by another FreeBSD 3.4-RC (New Reno enabled) box acting as a router. > Maybe you're seeing a bad New Reno interaction with Solaris itself? I might be seeing that. I'll be sending some tcpdump output to Jonathan early next week. I'm in the middle of a major Sun T3 problem. Until that is solved, my customer comes first. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 10:14:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1102.mail.yahoo.com (web1102.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC67537B424 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:14:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from galen_sampson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 7919 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Apr 2001 17:14:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20010406171413.7918.qmail@web1102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.5.146.158] by web1102.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 10:14:13 PDT Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:14:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Galen Sampson Subject: Netstat it no problem To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Fixed my problem. I was indeed not using a kernel that was built with the updated source. I compiled my new kernel with 'make -kernel=sampson' and installed with 'make install -kernel=sampson' but did not set up boot.conf to boot that kernel =P. Thanks to all that replied. Couple of questions: 1) Is there any good reason why you would want to use the '-kernel=foo' other than customization? 2) I've noticed in the handbook that you can 'make all install' certain portions of the source tree and update your system. This seems appealing since you don't have to build anything and can update only certain parts (ntpd for instance). The question is should you go to single user mode (because of chflags being set or what not)? When is it ok to not go to single user mode and how can you tell? Galen Sampson >On Tuesday 03 April 2001 02:13, you wrote: >> Hi all, >> I have been experiencing some strange behavior with netstat. It only >> displays UDP sockets for the inet family. TCP sockets do not show up. I >> know it is listening on TCP sockets because I can ssh/telnet/ftp/etc to >> the machine. Netstat has been exhibiting this behavior from a make world >> 2 weeks ago. After updating my source tree today from cvsup10.freebsd.org >> and rebuilding the world I am getting the same symptoms. I'd love to put >> up some debug info for someone to figure this out, but I have know idea >> what to put. Is this problem just me? >> >> pointers/tips welcome >> >> Galen Sampson >> > >Hi Galen, > >Must be only you, I certainly don't have that problem. >4.3-RC2 from the CD. Sources have been upgraded, but haven't built world >yet. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 11: 3:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mars.siad.net (mail.siad.net [207.105.242.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AA537B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:03:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@siad.net) Received: from siad.net (mars.siad.net [207.105.242.58]) by mars.siad.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f36I3XW14088 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:03:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@siad.net) Message-ID: <3ACE04F5.9E89AAA8@siad.net> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:03:33 -0700 From: "Don L. Belcher" Organization: SIAD, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: 4.3-RC . Is something wrong with PPP and or mgetty? References: <3ACE03F1.15FB9585@siad.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------964D5661490D536143A2FA0E" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------964D5661490D536143A2FA0E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Don L. Belcher" wrote: > Your gateway needs to know where to send data for your pc. For your laptop > ip address you need to add route on gateway with destination address of your > server. do something like this on your gateway add route 203.1.96.6 203.1.96.3 --------------964D5661490D536143A2FA0E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="don.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Don L. Belcher Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="don.vcf" begin:vcard n:Belcher;Don tel;work:(818)400-1379 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:SIAD, Inc. adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:don@siad.net x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Don Belcher end:vcard --------------964D5661490D536143A2FA0E-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 11: 4:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC9637B446 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:04:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfischer@Techfak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14laae-0002cm-04; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 20:04:08 +0200 Received: from frolic.no-support.loc (520094253176-0001@[217.0.157.108]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14laaP-04z4yGC; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:03:53 +0200 Received: (from bjoern@localhost) by frolic.no-support.loc (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f36I1c303270; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:01:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bjoern) From: Bjoern Fischer Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:01:38 +0200 To: Randall Hopper Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nm: libc.so.4: no symbols (Huh?) Message-ID: <20010406200138.A2659@frolic.no-support.loc> References: <20010405225355.A40150@nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010405225355.A40150@nc.rr.com>; from aa8vb@nc.rr.com on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:53:55PM -0400 X-Sender: 520094253176-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Randall, > I can dump symbols from other .so's. Why not anything in /usr/lib? > > stealth : /usr/lib # nm -Bo libc.so.4 > /usr/libexec/elf/nm: libc.so.4: no symbols The libraries are stripped, they only contain symbols that are required for dynamic linking and relocation processing: broccoli:~$ nm -D /usr/lib/libc.so | tail -10 000582b0 T yp_master 00057970 T yp_match 00057dbc T yp_next 00058168 T yp_order 000578f4 T yp_unbind 00057088 T ypbinderr_string 000584fc T yperr_string 00058624 T ypprot_err 00094c70 B ypresp_allfn 00094c68 B ypresp_data See nm(1). Bjorn -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GCS d--(+) s++: a- C+++(-) UB++++OSI++++$ P+++(-) L---(++) !E W- N+ o>+ K- !w !O !M !V PS++ PE- PGP++ t+++ !5 X++ tv- b+++ D++ G e+ h-- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 11:12:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vcnet.com (mail.vcnet.com [209.239.239.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38F3537B43C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:12:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpr@vcnet.com) Received: (qmail 67897 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Apr 2001 18:12:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:12:28 -0700 From: Jon Rust To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.3RC, mailwrapper, and qmail Message-ID: <20010406111228.E73794@mail.vcnet.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: http://www.freebsd.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I upgraded one of my servers to 4.3RC yesterday. This system uses qmail instead of sendmail. I was using the following mailer.conf file successfully: sendmail /var/qmail/bin/sendmail send-mail /var/qmail/bin/sendmail mailq /var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread newaliases /var/qmail/bin/newaliases However, now I keep seeing mailwrapper running forever, making the sytem very sluggish: bash-2.03$ w 11:01AM up 14 hrs, 1 user, load averages: 2.09, 2.02, 2.01 Previously this box had load avg's in the 0.00 to 0.05 range. I see no changes mentioned in UPDATING that would tell me why this is happening. Any ideas? Thanks, jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 11:24:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from midget.dons.net.au (daniel.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6C237B42C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:24:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (guppy.dons.net.au [203.31.81.9]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f36IO4D74104; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 03:54:04 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010406085912.A20772@spawn.nectar.com> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 03:54:00 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" Subject: Re: SOLVED: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 06-Apr-2001 Jacques A. Vidrine wrote: > Uh oh, I have this, too, on my laptop. I noticed it several days ago, > but promptly forgot about it when I moved on to do something else. In > my case, I was trying to do something interactively with guile -- you > can imagine how impossible that is without '(' :-) Yes :) > cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; > eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = (; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; > lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; > status = ^G; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; > > Hmm, somewhere erase2 is getting set to the left paren. I have a fresh install of 4.3 here which exhibits the same problem. What version of X are you using? (both xterm and eterm exhibit it) > This is happening with xterm and rxvt, but not on the console. I > can't reproduce it on my desktop, which is running the same version of > FreeBSD and XFree86. I guess now that I'm aware of it again I'll try > to figure out what is going on. Hints welcome. Absolutly none :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 11:25:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.ca (epsilon.lucida.ca [209.47.215.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B96737B496 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:25:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@LUCIDA.CA) Received: (qmail 44022 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Apr 2001 18:24:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Apr 2001 18:24:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:24:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Heckaman To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: 4.2-STABLE Crash related to "smb" ? Message-ID: <20010406141904.N43943-400000@epsilon.lucida.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-164632638-986581498=:43943" X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-164632638-986581498=:43943 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I recently purchased a tv/capture card (which is working great) and installed it, compiled kernel to include the required I2C/bktr lines and rebooted. Upon running "lmmon" the kernel immediately paniced. After looking through dmesg, I noticed this: smbus0: on bti2c0 smb0: on smbus0 smbus1: on intsmb0 smb1: on smbus1 The first looks to be from the i2c additions, the second being the normal one I had before from the monitoring intpm entry. I discovered that I could modify lmmon and wmlmmon to check /dev/smb1 instead of /dev/smb0, which works fine, but is this crash normal? Did I perhaps do something wrong in the kernel that is making those two smb devices show up? I have attached my dmesg, kernel, and gdb analysis from the crash dump that was produced. It doesn't seem normal to me, but I'm not familiar with the freebsd parts affected. I'd appreciate any input. :) TIA. 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freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 11:31:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [216.111.239.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7939737B449 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f36IVl500623 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:31:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@jeah.net) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:31:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Byrnes To: Subject: "ELF Interpreter not Found..", New 4.3 Box. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Upon booting a newly CVSup'd and built 4.3 box, I get: ELF interpreter /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found I've gotten that error before in a shell, but never preventing me from booting.. -cb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 11:35:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mars.siad.net (mail.siad.net [207.105.242.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAE037B507 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:35:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@siad.net) Received: from siad.net (mars.siad.net [207.105.242.58]) by mars.siad.net (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f36IZXW14169 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:35:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@siad.net) Message-ID: <3ACE0C74.B245270A@siad.net> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:35:33 -0700 From: "Don L. Belcher" Organization: SIAD, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: Re: 4.3-RC . Is something wrong with PPP and or mgetty? References: <3ACE03F1.15FB9585@siad.net> <3ACE04F5.9E89AAA8@siad.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B368770F080C8EB2F37824D6" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B368770F080C8EB2F37824D6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Don L. Belcher" wrote: > "Don L. Belcher" wrote: > > > Your gateway needs to know where to send data for your pc. For your laptop > > ip address you need to add route on gateway with destination address of your > > server. do something like this on your gateway add route 203.1.96.6 203.1.96.3 sorry my mistake shoud be route add laptop(203.1.96.3) server(203.1.96.6) the server is acting as gateway for pc --------------B368770F080C8EB2F37824D6 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="don.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Don L. Belcher Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="don.vcf" begin:vcard n:Belcher;Don tel;work:(818)400-1379 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:SIAD, Inc. adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:don@siad.net x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Don Belcher end:vcard --------------B368770F080C8EB2F37824D6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 14: 0:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wattres.Watt.COM (spare78.biz.net [208.177.80.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2B237B43E for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@Watt.COM) Received: (from steve@localhost) by wattres.Watt.COM (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f36L0ih31332 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:00:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve) Message-Id: <200104062100.f36L0ih31332@wattres.Watt.COM> References: <20010406085912.A20772@spawn.nectar.com> Organization: Watt Consultants, San Jose, CA, USA From: steve@Watt.COM (Steve Watt) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:00:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SOLVED: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG doconnor@gsoft.com.au writes: >On 06-Apr-2001 Jacques A. Vidrine wrote: >> cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; >> eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = (; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; >> lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; >> status = ^G; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; >> >> Hmm, somewhere erase2 is getting set to the left paren. > >I have a fresh install of 4.3 here which exhibits the same problem. What >version of X are you using? >(both xterm and eterm exhibit it) Make sure you've rebuilt rxvt/xterm/whatever; I saw this once (on another OS) when the tty headers changed a wee tad. A quick glance at the recent commits doesn't tell *me* anything that might have hit here, but one can never be 100% certain... -- Steve Watt KD6GGD PP-ASEL-IA ICBM: 121W 56' 57.8" / 37N 20' 14.9" Internet: steve @ Watt.COM Whois: SW32 Free time? There's no such thing. It just comes in varying prices... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 14:23:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from montgomery.accessunited.com.au (montgomery.accessunited.com.au [203.46.135.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B67D37B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:23:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phillip@accessunited.com.au) Received: from willie.accessunited.com.au (willie.accessunited.com.au [203.46.135.139]) by montgomery.accessunited.com.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f36LN0N08944 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:23:01 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200104062123.f36LN0N08944@montgomery.accessunited.com.au> From: "Phillip" To: "stable@freebsd.org" Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 07:23:05 +1100 (EDT) Reply-To: "Phillip" X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Fwd: URGENT: Serious bug in IPFilter Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last few hours, the author of IPF issued this notice with some patches for a bug. I didn't include the patch because it looks as though its been revised. But depending on the state of play with the timetable for 4.3-RELEASE, it may be possible to include the updated version in a later version of -RELEASE or -STABLE. Cheers ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== A *VERY* serious bug has been brought to my attention in IPFilter. In 10 words or less, fragment caching with can let through "any" packet. Ok, so that's 8. Cause ===== When matching a fragment, only srcip, dstip and IP ID# are checked and the fragment cache is checked *before* any rules are checked. It does not even need to be a fragment. Even if you block all fragments with a rule, fragment cache entries can be created by packets that match state information currently held. How to disable fragment caching =============================== In realtime, use adb or gdb or kgdb or whatever to change the variable named "ipfr_inuse" to 1000000. 1000000 isn't important, it just needs to be larger than IPFT_SIZE and an integer. NOTE: there are no sysctl's on BSD systems to adjust this if securelevel is > 0. New version details with fix ============================ IP Filter 3.2.* Email me (nobody should be using this now :*) IP Filter 3.3.22 ftp://coombs.anu.edu.au/pub/net/ip-filter/ip_fil3.3.22.tar.gz ftp://coombs.anu.edu.au/pub/net/ip-filter/patch-3.3.22.gz http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip_fil3.3.22.tar.gz http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/patch-3.3.22.gz IP Filter 3.4.17 ftp://coombs.anu.edu.au/pub/net/ip-filter/ip_fil3.4.17.tar.gz ftp://coombs.anu.edu.au/pub/net/ip-filter/patch-3.4.17.gz http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/ip_fil3.4.17.tar.gz http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon/patch-3.4.17.gz Frag Patches ============ One attachment each for 3.3.21 and 3.4.16. These patches do not contain changes for NAT code to make the fragment cache selective (see below), just stop packets which aren't meant to match from matching. You are much better off updating the whole rev step if you can. How to enable it in new versions ================================ Enable a security hole you say ? You will need to have "keep state keep frags" in your rule, not just "keep state". That is rules with just "keep state" will no longer create fragment cache enties (as happens now). Remaining Issues ================ 1. There is an automatic frgament cache used by NAT which is now disabled by default and requires "frag" to be inserted into a NAT rule in order for it to function. 2. Any and all packets which are fragments and match the required tuple (being srcip, dstip, ipid) will be let through so long as the frag cache entry remains. 3. Use of "keep frags" with "keep state" means fragment cache entries can be created by packets going in *either* direction. Nothing will get added (now) to the fragment cache without being explicitly allowed by a rule (IPF or NAT). Why not reassemble fragmented packets? ====================================== Because it is *really bad* for a router to do this. I run TCP/IP over a fibre channel interface which has an MTU of 65280. I *cannot* even send full size packets over it without them being fragmented due to buffer size problems so I'm not going to even think about defragmentation issues! I don't care who does it, if you've done your networking 101, you know why routers (i.e. firewalls) do *NOT* defragment packets. Darren How to exploit? Something will end up on bugtraq but so far, what I've seen isn't a complete exploit of the problem. ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 14:24:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from corrupt.network-alchemy.com (Corrupt.Network-Alchemy.COM [199.46.16.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3197A37B424 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mruhl@network-alchemy.com) Received: from network-alchemy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corrupt.network-alchemy.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f36LOjg71496 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mruhl@network-alchemy.com) Message-ID: <3ACE341D.A2825526@network-alchemy.com> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:24:45 -0700 From: Mike Ruhl X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Build failure. :( Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------373ECE63DD352258F10CCD2F" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------373ECE63DD352258F10CCD2F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy, I am attempting to upgrade a 3.5.1 box to the lastest 4.2 (.3RC?) stable release. I am getting the following compile error. Any thoughts? Thanks! Mike c++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/g++ -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/lib -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc:80: warning: `catch', `throw', and `try' are all C++ reserved words /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc: In function `void operator delete(void *)': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc:82: declaration of `operator delete(void *)' throws different exceptions... :82: ...from previous declaration here *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. --------------373ECE63DD352258F10CCD2F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="mruhl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Mike Ruhl Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mruhl.vcf" begin:vcard n:Ruhl;Michael J tel;work:(831) 440-6472 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Nokia adr:;;1538 Pacific Avenue;Santa Cruz;CA.;95060;U.S.A. version:2.1 email;internet:mruhl@cips.nokia.com title:Tall Blond Guy x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Michael J Ruhl end:vcard --------------373ECE63DD352258F10CCD2F-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 14:43:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36ECA37B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:43:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (dan@on-ott-ap3-05-26.look.ca [216.154.60.217]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f36LhNe42316; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:43:23 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200104062143.f36LhNe42316@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: "Phillip" Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:43:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Fwd: URGENT: Serious bug in IPFilter Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" In-reply-to: <200104062123.f36LN0N08944@montgomery.accessunited.com.au> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Apr 2001, at 7:23, Phillip wrote: > In the last few hours, the author of IPF issued this notice with some patches > for a bug. I didn't include the patch because it looks as though its been > revised. But depending on the state of play with the timetable for > 4.3-RELEASE, it may be possible to include the updated version in > a later version of -RELEASE or -STABLE. Darren Reed has committed the changes to -current (see 200104061552.f36FqTf87523@freefall.freebsd.org). I've already asked Darren via cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org and cvs-all@FreeBSD.org if it can be MFC'd before 4.3-RELEASE. Darren's original post and the fragment patches area available at http://false.net/ipfilter/2001_04/0087.html. I too would like to them MFC'd. Failing that, I'm trying to confirm the patch instructions via the ipfilter mailing list. -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 15:23: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from speedus.com (saturn.speedus.net [63.251.16.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3236437B424 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:22:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benf@nexgen.com) Received: from nexgen.com (p17-96.dialup.speedus.net [63.251.17.96]) by speedus.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09752 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ACE4173.6020708@nexgen.com> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 18:21:39 -0400 From: Benjamin Flom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Cluster Solution for FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We are looking to setup a failover option and a load balancing otion using the servers that are in place. At this point we have loaded identical configurations on 3 machines. If one of the machines gets overloaded, we would like to off some of the processing or connection handling to one of the others. If one of the machines goes down we would like to have the broken box fail over, and have the other machines pick up the load. Ideally, we could add machines to and remove machines from the cluster as needed. The ability to maintain this configuration over a WAN would be of value as well. Is there any known way to do this, any direction we should follow, or is it just a pipe dream? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 15:50:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A3037B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f36MpwU00191 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:51:58 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Sorry, but this 4.3 box has me totally stumped. It simply won't gateway the PPP link. FULL details of setups. Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:53:39 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Really, this is becoming a mystery. I'm reasonably familiar with dns, routing, and so on. This is all the detail I have, and all the configs I have in place. Yet..... I can not get that laptop visible on the newtork. On .96.6 yes. But no where else. If anyone can see what I'm missing here, I'd love to know. When I had the laptop talking to the .96.5 box it works fine. Talking to the .96.6 box. It will ONLY talk to the 96.6 box. Network: 203.1.96.0 +---------+ ----> WAN Internet Connection | FreeBSD | \ | 2.2 |-------- | ".96.5" | | | +----+----+ | |----+-------------+-------------+----| <-- Ethernet Network | | | | | | +----+----+ +----+----+ +----+----+ | | | | | 4.3 | | W2K | | W98 | | FreeBSD | | ".96.26 | |".96.18 | | ".96.6 | | | | | | | +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ | \ | PPP link / | +---------+ | Laptop | | | | ".96.3" | | | +----+----+ ROUTING: This is the .96.6 FreeBSD, 4.3 server prior to the dialin from the laptop. ruby# netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 203.1.96.5 UGSc 28 1645 ed0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 203.1.96 link#1 UC 0 0 ed0 => This is the .96.6 FreeBSD, 4.3 server _after_ the dialin from the laptop. ruby# netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 203.1.96.5 UGSc 28 1645 ed0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 203.1.96 link#1 UC 0 0 ed0 => 203.1.96.3 203.1.96.6 UH 1 0 tun0 => 203.1.96.3/32 203.1.96.6 UGSc 0 0 ed0 203.1.96.6/32 203.1.96.3 UGSc 0 0 tun0 ....................................... This is the ppp.linkup entry # pap: add MYADDR HISADDR # ..................................... This is the ppp.linkdown entry pap: delete MYADDR HISADDR .................................... This is the ppp.conf entry pap: allow users merlin set log Phase Chat Connect IPCP enable pap enable chap enable passwdauth set timeout 900 accept dns accept chap #enable proxy set dns 203.1.96.5 203.1.96.6 set nbns 203.1.96.26 add 203.1.96.3 203.1.96.6 ................................... And last but not least, the rc.conf lines ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" ifconfig_ed0="inet 203.1.96.6 netmask 255.255.255.0" hostname="ruby.chalmers.com.au" named_enable="YES" linux_enable="YES" moused_port="/dev/cuaar1" moused_type="logitech" moused_enable="NO" saver="green" firewall_enable="NO" defaultrouter="203.1.96.5" static_routes="" gateway_enable="YES" router_enable="NO" mrouted_enable="NO" #forward_sourceroute="YES" #accept_sourceroute="YES" inetd_enable=NO tcp_extensions="YES" ................................... Now if anyone can tell me why that laptop isn't talking through the 4.3 box, I'll be really interested to hear. Regards Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 16: 2:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns3.solo.net (dns3.solo.net [64.23.2.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D9237B424 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dak@solo.net) Received: from solo.net (vip0 [64.23.2.19]) by dns3.solo.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f36N2vm93437; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:02:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dak@solo.net) Received: from corp.namesafe.com ([209.141.226.130]) (proxying for 10.0.0.10) (SquirrelMail authenticated user dak) by www.solo.net with HTTP; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:02:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4351.209.141.226.130.986598177.squirrel@www.solo.net> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:02:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Cluster Solution for FreeBSD From: "David A. Koran" To: In-Reply-To: <3ACE4173.6020708@nexgen.com> References: <3ACE4173.6020708@nexgen.com> Cc: Reply-To: dak@solo.net X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.1.0 [cvs]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ben, There is a port, originally developed by a branch of Ericsson called Eddieware, but I've had mixed results in ever getting it to work. If you're looking for a solution for server clustering, mod_backhand (which is not a port), does a little of what you're looking for for web servers. You may be able to piggy back your needs onto a few existing DNS load balancing technologies. I also remember there being a 2-node piece of software (they had a table at BSDCon this year and last) which they were expanding to a multi node solution some time 1st quater of this year. There is a copy of the early version of the 4CD set that comes with the Complete FreeBSD book, I think it's on the 3rd CD for commercial software. David > We are looking to setup a failover option and a load balancing otion > using the servers that are in place. At this point we have loaded > identical configurations on 3 machines. If one of the machines gets > overloaded, we would like to off some of the processing or connection > handling to one of the others. If one of the machines goes down we > would like to have the broken box fail over, and have the other > machines pick up the load. Ideally, we could add machines to and > remove machines from the cluster as needed. The ability to maintain > this configuration over a WAN would be of value as well. Is there any > known way to do this, any direction we should follow, or is it just a > pipe dream? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 16:17:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF26537B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:17:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f36NHJW48955; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:17:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:17:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200104062317.f36NHJW48955@earth.backplane.com> To: Benjamin Flom Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cluster Solution for FreeBSD References: <3ACE4173.6020708@nexgen.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :We are looking to setup a failover option and a load balancing otion :using the servers that are in place. At this point we have loaded :identical configurations on 3 machines. If one of the machines gets :overloaded, we would like to off some of the processing or connection :handling to one of the others. If one of the machines goes down we would :like to have the broken box fail over, and have the other machines pick :up the load. Ideally, we could add machines to and remove machines from :the cluster as needed. The ability to maintain this configuration over a :WAN would be of value as well. Is there any known way to do this, any :direction we should follow, or is it just a pipe dream? The quick and dirty thing to do is simply setup a DNS round robin for the domain name used to access the servers. For example, if you are serving a web site called www.flubber.com you would setup the DNS for www.flubber.com to return several IP addresses (multiple IN A records) instead of just one. There isn't much point having several servers available if all the traffic is only going to one of them, and the random distribution the round robin gives you is usually sufficient to distribute the load enough that you don't really need sophisticated load balancing software. That leaves just dealing with downed servers. There are several solutions, but what it comes down to is that no matter what you do something is going to glitch when a server goes down and the real question is "how long" before that glitch clears. My take on the situation is that since there is no way to avoid the glitch (even with something like a Cisco redirector), using a DNS-based solution and short record timeouts is the least intrusive. The site might glitch for a few minutes when something goes down, but it will still correct itself quickly enough that in the day-to-day running of most businesses (e.g. anything except a brokerage site, say), nobody is going to care. It depends on what you are doing, of course. Some sites require much more stringent controls. Run the numbers and determine if you care. e.g. say you have 3 servers and a server crashes on average once every 60 days, glitching the network for 10 minutes. So once every 60 days 1/3 of your *active* users at that moment will be inconvenienced for 10 minutes. For most businesses, that isn't a problem. I did something similar at BEST Internet, though in that case the user base was split across the shell machines without any redundancy. A shell machine would ocassionally crash, inconveniencing 1/20 of the active users for however long it took us to fix it (usually it rebooted and was up 5 minutes later). Tech support calls dropped to zero. Problem solved. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 16:37: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl [193.78.88.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DE637B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from driehuis@playbeing.org) Received: from bh2.nl.compuware.com (unknown [172.16.17.82]) by bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CD082A6 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:37:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from trashcan.nl.compuware.com ([172.16.16.52]) by bh2.nl.compuware.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 2127JXKP; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:37:02 +0200 Received: from c1111.nl.compuware.com (c1111.nl.compuware.com [172.16.16.36]) by trashcan.nl.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C35145A4; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:37:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:37:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Bert Driehuis X-Sender: bertd@c1111.nl.compuware.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cluster Solution for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200104062317.f36NHJW48955@earth.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Matt Dillon wrote: > The quick and dirty thing to do is simply setup a DNS round robin > for the domain name used to access the servers. [snip] > That leaves just dealing with downed servers. That depends on your service. It won't fly if you use something that has a concept of session. This is where Eddie comes in, except I too found Eddie to be too complex to want to rely on unless you can afford to plow significant time into learning -- anyone who is not willing to learn the programming language it is written in should probably not want to depend on it at this stage). As an alternative (or supplement) to round robin DNS, one could consider IP takeover. Web servers are paired, and if one detects the other to go down, it assigns the other IP address as a secondary of its own. I'm not aware of ready made daemons for FreeBSD that do this, but finding out and writing one if necessary is on my to do list (sigh -- so is getting Cricket 1.0.3 out the door and rewriting the OS interface of net-snmp :-) As a third alternative, one could hack up lbnamed (a set of perl tools that implement a DNS server that can handle load balancing and dead host detection). I started on this, but the requirement to get it running sort of faded over time so I never got round to finishing it). The hard part (the DNS bits) are done and don't need touching. There's a link on www.isc.org to it someplace. The easy bit that needs finishing is writing a simple tool that updates a plaintext file that the DNS uses to determine where to redirect a client. This would implement the bits from Eddie I need most without requiring me (or my colleagues who might need to service it in an emergency) to learn a new language. I recommend downloading lbnamed even if you don't plan to run it because it contains a quite lucid description of some of the DNS issues and how to deal with them. Cheers, -- Bert -- Bert Driehuis -- driehuis@playbeing.org -- +31-20-3116119 If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 16:46:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C97037B42C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (tmchow@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.10.1/8.10.1/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id f36NkWq26999 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0C) with ESMTP id QAA14213 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:46:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fraser.sfu.ca: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow To: Subject: Break in stable code? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just updated my stable source tree yesterday night, and just tried to build the world right. However, I just got a ton of error messages about undefinied references. One of such messages is: umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to 'xpt_done' I greped for "xpt_done" in the /usr/src directory, and it's showing up in a bunch of files, particularly in /usr/src/sys/pci/ncr.c (as well as other files). Has this been reported/fixed? Or am I doing something wrong? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 16:52:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rockstar.stealthgeeks.net (rockstar.stealthgeeks.net [216.233.200.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5156837B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net) Received: (qmail 55980 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Apr 2001 23:52:27 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:52:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Greenwell To: Bert Driehuis Cc: Subject: Re: Cluster Solution for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Bert Driehuis wrote: > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Matt Dillon wrote: > > > The quick and dirty thing to do is simply setup a DNS round robin > > for the domain name used to access the servers. > [snip] > > That leaves just dealing with downed servers. > > As an alternative (or supplement) to round robin DNS, one could consider > IP takeover. Web servers are paired, and if one detects the other to go > down, it assigns the other IP address as a secondary of its own. I'm not > aware of ready made daemons for FreeBSD that do this, but finding out > and writing one if necessary is on my to do list (sigh -- so is getting > Cricket 1.0.3 out the door and rewriting the OS interface of net-snmp > :-) VRRPD version 0.2 ported to FreeBSD: ftp://ftp.dev.express.ru/pub/FreeBSD/utils/vrrpd.tgz /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell Earth is a single point of failure. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 16:55:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A7C37B424 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:55:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f36NtRX29648; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:55:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.2/8.11.2av) with ESMTP id f36NtNk29640; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:55:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010406195408.0934f938@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 19:55:21 -0400 To: Trevin Chow , From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Break in stable code? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You are most likely missing some dependent elements from your kernel config file. ---Mike At 04:46 PM 4/6/2001 -0700, Trevin Chow wrote: >I just updated my stable source tree yesterday night, and >just tried to build the world right. However, I just got a ton of >error messages about undefinied references. One of >such messages is: > >umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to 'xpt_done' > >I greped for "xpt_done" in the /usr/src directory, and it's showing up in >a bunch of files, particularly in /usr/src/sys/pci/ncr.c (as well as other >files). > >Has this been reported/fixed? Or am I doing something wrong? > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 16:55:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17D037B43F for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 3720513615; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:56:15 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Trevin Chow Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Break in stable code? Message-ID: <20010406195615.C12260@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Trevin Chow , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tmchow@sfu.ca on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 04:46:32PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 04:46:32PM -0700, Trevin Chow wrote: > I just updated my stable source tree yesterday night, and > just tried to build the world right. However, I just got a ton of > error messages about undefinied references. One of > such messages is: >=20 > umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to 'xpt_done' >=20 > I greped for "xpt_done" in the /usr/src directory, and it's showing up in > a bunch of files, particularly in /usr/src/sys/pci/ncr.c (as well as other > files). >=20 > Has this been reported/fixed? Or am I doing something wrong? >=20 =46rom GENERIC: device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da You *do* have 'scbus' and 'da' in your kernel config, don't you? :) --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjrOV58ACgkQObaG4P6BelC1KwCaA7mvV5KtJOm/4MNgg32+gn7K 7pYAmwQmhGNKyvBKDSJY+TCtHo8r8txp =NkRX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mvpLiMfbWzRoNl4x-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 16:57:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D1537B43C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3705Cp76010; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:05:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:05:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Benjamin Flom Cc: Subject: Re: Cluster Solution for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3ACE4173.6020708@nexgen.com> Message-ID: <20010406200342.R75859-100000@turtle.looksharp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Benjamin Flom wrote: >We are looking to setup a failover option and a load balancing otion >using the servers that are in place. At this point we have loaded >identical configurations on 3 machines. If one of the machines gets >overloaded, we would like to off some of the processing or connection >handling to one of the others. If one of the machines goes down we would >like to have the broken box fail over, and have the other machines pick >up the load. Ideally, we could add machines to and remove machines from >the cluster as needed. The ability to maintain this configuration over a >WAN would be of value as well. Is there any known way to do this, any >direction we should follow, or is it just a pipe dream? I notice you're getting lots of software answers. Personally something this complex and important to your operation I'd put your machines behind a hardware load balancer. It will save time and subsequently money in the long run. -- Brandon D. Valentine This message is encrypted with ROT-26. Any attempt to circumvent this encryption is expressly prohibited under 17 USC 512. Violators may be prosecuted. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 16:59: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rm-rstar.sfu.ca (rm-rstar.sfu.ca [142.58.120.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC14F37B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:58:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmchow@sfu.ca) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (tmchow@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.101.25]) by rm-rstar.sfu.ca (8.10.1/8.10.1/SFU-5.0H) with ESMTP id f36Nwwq05011; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tmchow@localhost) by fraser.sfu.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2/SFU-5.0C) with ESMTP id QAA18541; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:58:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: fraser.sfu.ca: tmchow owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:58:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Trevin Chow To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: Subject: Re: Break in stable code? In-Reply-To: <20010406195615.C12260@peitho.fxp.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Chris Faulhaber wrote: > From GENERIC: > > device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da > > You *do* have 'scbus' and 'da' in your kernel config, don't you? :) Well that was an easy fix :) Thanks for the quick reply...saved me a whole lot of trouble... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 17: 0:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns3.solo.net (dns3.solo.net [64.23.2.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF0637B618 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dak@solo.net) Received: from solo.net (vip0 [64.23.2.19]) by dns3.solo.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3700Pm94375; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:00:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dak@solo.net) Received: from corp.namesafe.com ([209.141.226.130]) (proxying for 10.0.0.10) (SquirrelMail authenticated user dak) by www.solo.net with HTTP; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1596.209.141.226.130.986601626.squirrel@www.solo.net> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Break in stable code? From: "David A. Koran" To: In-Reply-To: References: Cc: Reply-To: dak@solo.net X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.1.0 [cvs]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG umass is the USB Mass Storage device and as specified in your kernel config, needs to have the following enabled (probing the NCR PCI bus): device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) If you don't have USB or don't want to use the umass stuff, just comment it out at the bottom of the file (where the USB settings are). David > I just updated my stable source tree yesterday night, and > just tried to build the world right. However, I just got a ton of > error messages about undefinied references. One of >such messages is: > > umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to 'xpt_done' > > I greped for "xpt_done" in the /usr/src directory, and it's showing up > in a bunch of files, particularly in /usr/src/sys/pci/ncr.c (as well as > other files). > > Has this been reported/fixed? Or am I doing something wrong? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 17: 4:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns3.solo.net (dns3.solo.net [64.23.2.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2845337B43C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:04:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dak@solo.net) Received: from solo.net (vip0 [64.23.2.19]) by dns3.solo.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f3704om94433; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:04:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dak@solo.net) Received: from corp.namesafe.com ([209.141.226.130]) (proxying for 10.0.0.10) (SquirrelMail authenticated user dak) by www.solo.net with HTTP; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1760.209.141.226.130.986601895.squirrel@www.solo.net> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Cluster Solution for FreeBSD From: "David A. Koran" To: In-Reply-To: <20010406200342.R75859-100000@turtle.looksharp.net> References: <20010406200342.R75859-100000@turtle.looksharp.net> Cc: , Reply-To: dak@solo.net X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.1.0 [cvs]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We use a Arrowpoint CS800 here, and at $275k a pop, it's not exactly economical. You can probably get an F5 or Cisco Local Director to do it, but then again, we're probably trying to get the best bang for the least buck. Most of the load balancers don't work with out the load information being spewed to them, and that usually required some SNMP implementation, and that opens up a whole can of security concerns. The CS800 will only, if I remember the docs correctly, balance on load and resources of the pool of machines if that information is sent explictly to the balancing application. David > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Benjamin Flom wrote: > > I notice you're getting lots of software answers. Personally something > this complex and important to your operation I'd put your machines > behind a hardware load balancer. It will save time and subsequently > money in the long run. > > -- > Brandon D. Valentine > > This message is encrypted with ROT-26. Any attempt to circumvent this > encryption is expressly prohibited under 17 USC 512. Violators may be > prosecuted. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 17: 7:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from realtime.net (dragon.realtime.net [205.238.128.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8604837B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:07:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brucegb@realtime.net) Received: from tigerfish2.my.domain ([205.238.153.193]) by realtime.net ; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 19:06:21 -0600 Received: (from brucegb@localhost) by tigerfish2.my.domain (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f3707RW24511; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:07:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brucegb) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:07:27 -0500 From: Bruce Burden To: Benjamin Flom , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cluster Solution for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010406190727.A24393@tigerfish2.my.domain> References: <3ACE4173.6020708@nexgen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ACE4173.6020708@nexgen.com>; from benf@nexgen.com on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 06:21:39PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > We are looking to setup a failover option and a load balancing otion > using the servers that are in place. At this point we have loaded > identical configurations on 3 machines. If one of the machines gets > overloaded, we would like to off some of the processing or connection > handling to one of the others. If one of the machines goes down we would > like to have the broken box fail over, and have the other machines pick > up the load. Ideally, we could add machines to and remove machines from > the cluster as needed. The ability to maintain this configuration over a > WAN would be of value as well. Is there any known way to do this, any > direction we should follow, or is it just a pipe dream? > What you describe is what UnixWare 7.1.x with Compaq ClusterWare(?) does, running Compaq Proliant hardware. I don't know of freeware that comes close to doing what ClusterWare does, unfortunately. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 17:14:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE0237B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from dendennis.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.2] helo=dendennis) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 14lgMm-00035I-00; Sat, 07 Apr 2001 12:14:12 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "Benjamin Flom" , Subject: RE: Cluster Solution for FreeBSD Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:14:07 +1200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <20010406190727.A24393@tigerfish2.my.domain> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did anyone mention this: http://www.polyserve.com/ -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 17:26:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED46E37B43C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:26:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@xena.gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f370OLo13557; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:24:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@xena.gsicomp.on.ca) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:24:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Emmerton To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Trevin Chow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Break in stable code? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010406195408.0934f938@192.168.0.12> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In particular, you're missing 'device da' and 'device scbus', which are required to use 'device umass'. -- Matt Emmerton > You are most likely missing some dependent elements from your kernel config > file. > > ---Mike > > At 04:46 PM 4/6/2001 -0700, Trevin Chow wrote: > >I just updated my stable source tree yesterday night, and > >just tried to build the world right. However, I just got a ton of > >error messages about undefinied references. One of > >such messages is: > > > >umass.o(.text+0x1929): undefined reference to 'xpt_done' > > > >I greped for "xpt_done" in the /usr/src directory, and it's showing up in > >a bunch of files, particularly in /usr/src/sys/pci/ncr.c (as well as other > >files). > > > >Has this been reported/fixed? Or am I doing something wrong? > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 > Network Administration, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 17:46:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD89E37B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:46:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f370kCa69887 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:46:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:46:12 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 4.3-RC release boot problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Attempting to boot from kern.flp, or a bootable CD, from a release I rolled from last night's source results in: elf_loadexec: cannot seek can't load 'kernel' can't load 'kernel.old' no bootable kernel / `ls' at the `ok' prompt shows: / d boot kernel.gz Obviously the loader doesn't recoginize the gzipped kernel. Any suggestions for a cure? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer is to computing what a McDonalds Certified Food Specialist is to fine cuisine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 17:56: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.linkline.com (mail.linkline.com [192.216.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4593B37B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:55:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@mars.siad.net) Received: from mars.siad.net [64.30.197.79] by mail.linkline.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A57015C2020E; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 17:55:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3ACE659F.F3838267@mars.siad.net> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 17:56:00 -0700 From: don X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Sorry, but this 4.3 box has me totally stumped. It simply won't gateway the PPP link. FULL details of setups. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert wrote: > Really, > this is becoming a mystery. I'm reasonably familiar with dns, routing, and > so on. This is all the detail I have, and all the configs I have in place. > Yet..... I can not get that laptop visible on the newtork. On .96.6 yes. > But no where else. > > If anyone can see what I'm missing here, I'd love to know. When I had the > laptop talking to the .96.5 box it works fine. > Talking to the .96.6 box. It will ONLY talk to the 96.6 box. > > Network: 203.1.96.0 > > +---------+ ----> WAN Internet Connection > | FreeBSD | \ > | 2.2 |-------- > | ".96.5" | > | | > +----+----+ > | > |----+-------------+-------------+----| <-- Ethernet Network > | | | > | | | > +----+----+ +----+----+ +----+----+ > | | | | | 4.3 | > | W2K | | W98 | | FreeBSD | > | ".96.26 | |".96.18 | | ".96.6 | > | | | | | | > +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ > | > \ > | PPP link > / > | > +---------+ > | Laptop | > | | > | ".96.3" | > | | > +----+----+ > > ROUTING: > This is the .96.6 FreeBSD, 4.3 server prior to the dialin from the laptop. > ruby# netstat -rn > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > Expire > default 203.1.96.5 UGSc 28 1645 ed0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 > 203.1.96 link#1 UC 0 0 ed0 => > > This is the .96.6 FreeBSD, 4.3 server _after_ the dialin from the laptop. > ruby# netstat -rn > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > Expire > default 203.1.96.5 UGSc 28 1645 ed0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 > 203.1.96 link#1 UC 0 0 ed0 => > 203.1.96.3 203.1.96.6 UH 1 0 tun0 => > 203.1.96.3/32 203.1.96.6 UGSc 0 0 ed0 > 203.1.96.6/32 203.1.96.3 UGSc 0 0 tun0 > > ....................................... > This is the ppp.linkup entry > # > pap: > add MYADDR HISADDR > # > ..................................... > This is the ppp.linkdown entry > pap: > delete MYADDR HISADDR > .................................... > This is the ppp.conf entry > pap: > allow users merlin > set log Phase Chat Connect IPCP > enable pap > enable chap > enable passwdauth > set timeout 900 > accept dns > accept chap > #enable proxy > set dns 203.1.96.5 203.1.96.6 > set nbns 203.1.96.26 > add 203.1.96.3 203.1.96.6 > ................................... > > And last but not least, the rc.conf lines > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > ifconfig_ed0="inet 203.1.96.6 netmask 255.255.255.0" > hostname="ruby.chalmers.com.au" > named_enable="YES" > linux_enable="YES" > moused_port="/dev/cuaar1" > moused_type="logitech" > moused_enable="NO" > saver="green" > firewall_enable="NO" > defaultrouter="203.1.96.5" > static_routes="" > gateway_enable="YES" > router_enable="NO" > mrouted_enable="NO" > #forward_sourceroute="YES" > #accept_sourceroute="YES" > inetd_enable=NO > tcp_extensions="YES" > ................................... > > Now if anyone can tell me why that laptop isn't talking through the 4.3 box, > I'll be really interested to hear. > > Regards > Robert > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message I will reply one last time since my original reply was a bit incoherent You say you can connect to your server (203.1.96.6) ok and l assume you can login to your server from your laptop (203.1.96.3). this means your PPP connection is fine. But your Gateway (203.1.96.5) can't see your laptop on the interface for your local lan because it is not there, you have your laptop on another network interface. So you need to add a route to your Gateway so your laptop can be found. route add laptop (your destination) server (your gateway for your PPP network). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 18:39:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from galaxy.michix.net (Galaxy.michix.net [207.241.132.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A84337B622 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:39:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gardner@journey.com) Received: from journey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by galaxy.michix.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f371eO610307; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:40:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gardner@journey.com) Message-ID: <3ACE7008.FDE40C71@journey.com> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 21:40:24 -0400 From: Jeff Gardner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: don , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorry, but this 4.3 box has me totally stumped. It simply won't gateway the PPP link. FULL details of setups. References: <3ACE659F.F3838267@mars.siad.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I will reply one last time since my original reply was a bit incoherent > You say you can connect to your server (203.1.96.6) ok and l assume > you can login to your server from your laptop (203.1.96.3). this means your PPP > connection > is fine. But your Gateway (203.1.96.5) can't see your laptop on the interface > for > your local lan because it is not there, you have your laptop on another network > interface. > So you need to add a route to your Gateway so your laptop can be found. > route add laptop (your destination) server (your gateway for your PPP network). > I see your point here. But, wouldn't wouldn't proxy need to be enabled in ppp.conf since: proxy Default: Disabled. Enabling this option will tell ppp to proxy ARP for the peer. This means that ppp will make an entry in the ARP table using HISADDR and the MAC address of the local network in which HISADDR appears. This allows other machines connecteed to the LAN to talk to the peer as if the peer itself was connect- ed to the LAN. The proxy entry cannot be made unless HISADDR is an address from a LAN. And, Robert has enable proxy commented out. This is my hunch since it is ppp's job to make the peer be visible to the LAN as if it were connected directly. Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 18:41:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.lig.bellsouth.net (mail6.lig.bellsouth.net [207.203.120.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B85937B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:41:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fury@unixforever.net) Received: from damaged (adsl-78-132-242.btr.bellsouth.net [216.78.132.242]) by mail6.lig.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with SMTP id VAA28320 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001601c0bf04$335a3c60$0204a8c0@unixforever.net> From: "fury" To: References: <20010404231722.A25165@dojo> <002801c0bd91$517c92c0$0204a8c0@unixforever.net> <20010405101021.A34543@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:43:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: Rasputin To: Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:10 AM Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. > * fury [010405 06:28]: > > > No it was NOT a hardware issue unlike many ppl stated, fact is, I have never > > figured it out. > > Then how do you know it wasn't hardware? Well the fact is I swapped every peice of hardware. Even switched motherboards, processors, memory, drives, video, nics, and cables. Perhaps I am a bit pissed and just am just venting, but you know after spending about $2000 on hardware to swap around, wouldn't you be? I mean your about the only form of response I've ever gotten. It just had to be something fishy in the tree I had cvsup'd to in 4.2-release, becuase after I got 4.3-RC its been a solid machine. So, 2000 dollars later, I guess I have extra spare parts now. ;D -fury To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 19:25:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB3937B43E for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f372QwU01004 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:26:59 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Is there an example of static_routes Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:28:37 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG static_routes=" does anyone have an example of adding static reoutes here, in rc.conf thanks Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 19:34:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from search.sparks.net (search.sparks.net [208.5.188.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A829E37B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:34:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmiller@sparks.net) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 07D18DB24; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49E7DB23 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:34:35 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Can't mount root after upgrade Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bizzare circumstances here. I was upgrading a 4.1-RC#2 system to 4.2R to clear up some userland mismatches. I would have cvsupped but the system doesn't have room for sources and buildworld, and I had the CD handy.... To get the right combination of hardware, I temporarily moved the hard drive from it's 386/33 home (don't laugh, works fine as a dial up router:) to a K6-200. Upgrade went smoothly, moved the drive back to the 386 and got: ata-0-master: ata_command: timeout waitint for intr ata-0-master: identify failed no defsw (majordev=0 bootdev=0xa0200000) no such device 'ad' setrootbyname failed ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp Root mount failed: 6 Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:/dev/da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> If I move the drive back to the K6 it works fine. Only on the 386 does it not work. I checked the archives and verified that I do have: # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives in the config file which has been recompiled and installed. I get the same error on the upgrade installed generic kernel. The problem is only coming up with the 386:( Suggestions most welcome:) --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 19:42: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gelemna.org (cc466188-a.pinev1.in.home.com [24.17.49.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58C237B424 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:42:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from croyle@gelemna.org) Received: (from croyle@localhost) by gelemna.org (8.11.3/8.9.3) id f372fhT62807; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:41:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from croyle@gelemna.org) To: "Robert" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there an example of static_routes References: From: Don Croyle Date: 06 Apr 2001 21:41:42 -0500 Organization: Minimal at best In-Reply-To: "Robert"'s message of "Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:28:37 +1000" Message-ID: <868zlde8ih.fsf@emerson.gelemna.org> Lines: 13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Robert" writes: > static_routes=" > > does anyone have an example of adding static reoutes here, in rc.conf static_routes="slowzone" route_slowzone="10.0.1.0/24 10.0.0.2" Whatever you put in there is going to be appended to "route add". -- I've always wanted to be a dilettante, but I've never quite been ready to make the commitment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 19:59: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CF737B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:58:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21433; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:58:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200104070258.TAA21433@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot, no panic. Recovering from a crash. In-Reply-To: <20010405151904.CC2654E75@dojo.tao.ca> from The Anarcat at "Apr 5, 1 10:19:04 am" To: anarcat@dojo.tao.ca (The Anarcat) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:58:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: barney@tp.databus.com, anarcat@dojo.tao.ca, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, The Anarcat wrote: > Now I'm worried. I think I *will* change the power after all. :) I > don't even how big it is, thinking of it now! But I do know that the > stuff I have do suck > a lot of power: Put your oscilloscope on the +5v line and look for ripple. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 19:59:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0076C37B43E for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:59:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3730FU01140; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:00:15 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "Jeff Gardner" Cc: "FreeBSD" Subject: Thanks for all the help - fixed - ya party. RE: Sorry, but this 4.3 box has me totally stumped. Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:01:53 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3ACE6E5E.DDE031B8@journey.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Jeff I think that did it. I looked at that before - and then didn't get back to do anything with it. Just let me check. Yup, after rebooting everything ... brute force :-) It all works. All I did was uncomment the "enable proxy" line ..... "Takes branch and begins seriously whipping self around room..." Let me tell you all - I've learnt a hell of a lot about how 4.3 networking works now. Firewalls, filtering, routing - even darn it, printing. SO. To all who replied to my wails of anguish, it is now going and many many thanks. (Isn't it always as simple as one '#' in the wrong place?) ... and now. Party time. Life begins again for one sysadmin. Thanks heaps to all. Robert Just for interests sake... from ppp.log ---------------------- Apr 7 12:47:25 ruby ppp[222]: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(3) state = Ack-Rcvd Apr 7 12:47:25 ruby ppp[222]: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Apr 7 12:47:25 ruby ppp[222]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 203.1.96.3 Apr 7 12:47:25 ruby ppp[222]: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 203.1.96.5 Apr 7 12:47:25 ruby ppp[222]: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 203.1.96.26 Apr 7 12:47:25 ruby ppp[222]: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 203.1.96.6 Apr 7 12:47:25 ruby ppp[222]: IPCP: deflink: State change Ack-Rcvd --> Opened Apr 7 12:47:25 ruby ppp[222]: IPCP: deflink: LayerUp. Apr 7 12:47:25 ruby ppp[222]: IPCP: myaddr 203.1.96.6 hisaddr = 203.1.96.3 Apr 7 12:47:25 ruby ppp[222]: Phase: Found interface ed0 for 203.1.96.3 ====================== ppp.conf accept dns accept chap enable proxy set dns 203.1.96.5 203.1.96.6 set nbns 203.1.96.26 ppp.linkup add HISADDR 203.1.96.6 add 203.1.96.0 203.1.96.6 ppp.linkdown delete ALL ppp.secret [ this is where I'm teling it what IP to use ] merlin xxxxxx 203.1.96.3 > > > Well, the only thing I could see missing is where the laptop is getting > assigned .3! From the ppp man page, it looks like you would need a set > ifaddr line in your ppp.conf file. Where is it assigning the laptop .3? > > Second, you have enable proxy commented out. > proxy > Default: Disabled. Enabling this option will tell ppp to > proxy > ARP for the peer. This means that ppp will make an entry > in the > ARP table using HISADDR and the MAC address of the local > network > in which HISADDR appears. This allows other machines > connecteed > to the LAN to talk to the peer as if the peer itself was > connect- > ed to the LAN. The proxy entry cannot be made unless > HISADDR is > an address from a LAN. > > Thus, if you are actually getting .3 on the lap top, without this > option, the other machines would know that .3 even existed on the LAN. > Thus, enabling it would make .3 appear on .6's ethernet adapter and > therefore your .5 box would know which ethernet adapter to send packets > for .3. > > Also, our route table after the laptop connects confuses me. > > The last two lines: > > 203.1.96.3/32 203.1.96.6 UGSc 0 0 ed0 > > 203.1.96.6/32 203.1.96.3 UGSc 0 0 tun0 > > I am not sure these two lines are needed. > > For example, my route table is: > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > Expire > default 207.241.130.2 UGSc 15 18 tun0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 240 lo0 > 192.168 link#9 UC 0 0 vmnet1 => > 192.168.5 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 => > 207.241.130.2 207.241.132.168 UH 16 0 tun0 > > Now, read the description of my set up so it makes sense. > > > My set up is as such: > > I have 1 freebsd box and 1 vmware box. > > Ethernet card is assigned 192.168.5.1 > tun0 assigned 207.241.132.168 from ISP > vmnet1 assigned 192.168.0.1 > > IP assigned to vmware system running Win2000 is 192.168.5.2 default > gateway 192.168.5.1. > > I am using nat to translate my internal network attached to the internet > via ppp. > In the kernel I have bridging turned on and the vmware modules are using > netgraph bridge. It loads kernel modules for netgraph support. > > The windows 2000 vmware box can browse the web. Since I am playing with > private IPs and nat, I can not talk to the 2000 box directly unless I > instruct nat to redirect a port and I can connect to 207.241.132.168 and > directly talk to the win2000 box. But, having never had a chance to set > up your scenario, I am not sure what your problem is. > > Jeff - who created a dial-up ppp server using Linux several years ago > but not with FreeBSD. I hope this was helpful. > > Robert wrote: > > > > Really, > > this is becoming a mystery. I'm reasonably familiar with dns, > routing, and > > so on. This is all the detail I have, and all the configs I > have in place. > > Yet..... I can not get that laptop visible on the newtork. On > .96.6 yes. > > But no where else. > > > > If anyone can see what I'm missing here, I'd love to know. When > I had the > > laptop talking to the .96.5 box it works fine. > > Talking to the .96.6 box. It will ONLY talk to the 96.6 box. > > > > Network: 203.1.96.0 > > > > +---------+ ----> WAN Internet Connection > > | FreeBSD | \ > > | 2.2 |-------- > > | ".96.5" | > > | | > > +----+----+ > > | > > |----+-------------+-------------+----| <-- Ethernet Network > > | | | > > | | | > > +----+----+ +----+----+ +----+----+ > > | | | | | 4.3 | > > | W2K | | W98 | | FreeBSD | > > | ".96.26 | |".96.18 | | ".96.6 | > > | | | | | | > > +---------+ +---------+ +---------+ > > | > > \ > > | PPP link > > / > > | > > +---------+ > > | Laptop | > > | | > > | ".96.3" | > > | | > > +----+----+ > > > > ROUTING: > > This is the .96.6 FreeBSD, 4.3 server prior to the dialin from > the laptop. > > ruby# netstat -rn > > Routing tables > > > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > > Expire > > default 203.1.96.5 UGSc 28 1645 ed0 > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 > > 203.1.96 link#1 UC 0 0 ed0 => > > > > This is the .96.6 FreeBSD, 4.3 server _after_ the dialin from > the laptop. > > ruby# netstat -rn > > Routing tables > > > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > > Expire > > default 203.1.96.5 UGSc 28 1645 ed0 > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 > > 203.1.96 link#1 UC 0 0 ed0 => > > 203.1.96.3 203.1.96.6 UH 1 0 tun0 => > > 203.1.96.3/32 203.1.96.6 UGSc 0 0 ed0 > > 203.1.96.6/32 203.1.96.3 UGSc 0 0 tun0 > > > > ....................................... > > This is the ppp.linkup entry > > # > > pap: > > add MYADDR HISADDR > > # > > ..................................... > > This is the ppp.linkdown entry > > pap: > > delete MYADDR HISADDR > > .................................... > > This is the ppp.conf entry > > pap: > > allow users merlin > > set log Phase Chat Connect IPCP > > enable pap > > enable chap > > enable passwdauth > > set timeout 900 > > accept dns > > accept chap > > #enable proxy > > set dns 203.1.96.5 203.1.96.6 > > set nbns 203.1.96.26 > > add 203.1.96.3 203.1.96.6 > > ................................... > > > > And last but not least, the rc.conf lines > > > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" > > ifconfig_ed0="inet 203.1.96.6 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > hostname="ruby.chalmers.com.au" > > named_enable="YES" > > linux_enable="YES" > > moused_port="/dev/cuaar1" > > moused_type="logitech" > > moused_enable="NO" > > saver="green" > > firewall_enable="NO" > > defaultrouter="203.1.96.5" > > static_routes="" > > gateway_enable="YES" > > router_enable="NO" > > mrouted_enable="NO" > > #forward_sourceroute="YES" > > #accept_sourceroute="YES" > > inetd_enable=NO > > tcp_extensions="YES" > > ................................... > > > > Now if anyone can tell me why that laptop isn't talking through > the 4.3 box, > > I'll be really interested to hear. > > > > Regards > > Robert > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 20: 2:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E1937B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:02:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f3733VU01161 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:03:31 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Easy one. Can I tee the console boot time output to a text file? Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:05:09 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This one is easy .... when the system boots up, all the info scrolls up the console. Is it possible to 'tee' or pipe that output into a text file - kind of like dmesg (which doesn't contain all the output) Thansk robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 20:10:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81FE37B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 7AC3513615; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:10:40 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Robert Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Easy one. Can I tee the console boot time output to a text file? Message-ID: <20010406231040.A99227@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Robert , FreeBSD References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from robert@chalmers.com.au on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 01:05:09PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 01:05:09PM +1000, Robert wrote: >=20 >=20 > This one is easy .... when the system boots up, all the info scrolls up = the > console. Is it possible to 'tee' or pipe that output into a text file - k= ind > of like dmesg (which doesn't contain all the output) >=20 This is really a questions@freebsd.org type question; however... long story short, from RELNOTES.TXT: syslogd(8) now supports a "LOG_CONSOLE" facility (disabled by default), which can be used to log /dev/console output. added to -stable on Jan. 9th (and will be available in the upcoming 4.3-RELEASE). see a recent etc/syslog.conf for implementation details --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjrOhTAACgkQObaG4P6BelCo3ACePMxgV1GFeT38mL7kXjv1OkKI tXQAoIQDGYAi3U+KMn9I8Rt6qpC1Hd9Z =k6wI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 20:13:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B551937B42C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:13:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21563; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:13:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200104070313.UAA21563@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC In-Reply-To: <200104051827.OAA04621@sjt-u10.cisco.com> from Steve Tremblett at "Apr 5, 1 02:27:42 pm" To: sjt@cisco.com (Steve Tremblett) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:13:30 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd@bolingbroke.com, sjt@cisco.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Steve Tremblett wrote: > So a minor release happens when bugfixes reach a critical mass? Are > there any actual new features in 4.3 or simply fixes on top of > 4.2-RELEASE? Do features from -CURRENT get migrated in if they are > deemed stable enough to ship? The releases happen more or less on a calendar schedule, not by the amount of accumulated changes. There have been about 3 per year. This allows revenue stream from subscriptions, and a sense that progress is being made. And, yes, features do migrate from -CURRENT if deemed safe enough and if there is enough demand. You'll see the phrase MFC on some changes to the -STABLE branch; that stands for "Merged From Current". -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 20:18:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 310FE37B43C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 57426 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Apr 2001 03:18:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:18:48 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: Robert Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Is there an example of static_routes Message-ID: <20010406231848.A57365@palomine.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from robert@chalmers.com.au on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 12:28:37PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 12:28:37PM +1000, Robert wrote: > static_routes=3D"" >=20 > does anyone have an example of adding static reoutes here, in rc.conf static_routes=3D"0 1 2" route_0=3D"192.168.1.0/24 192.168.1.1" route_1=3D"192.168.2.0/24 192.168.2.1" route_2=3D"192.168.3.0/24 192.168.3.1" Chris --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6zocXyeUEMvtGLWERApA/AJ4m63czw++sFfDT+9I1Cf+iii+trwCg2UVc 46FeYQ7vO81NxHE8jylzxTc= =XO19 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 20:28:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1023237B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:28:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oistrakh@earthlink.net) Received: from pirastro.oistrakh.org (user-2ivftm4.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.246.196]) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04266; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (oistrakh@localhost) by pirastro.oistrakh.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f373RYs06871; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:27:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oistrakh@earthlink.net) X-Authentication-Warning: pirastro.oistrakh.org: oistrakh owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:27:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Christian Chen X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: my i810 card doesn't work In-Reply-To: <0056920010465505000002L252*@MHS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 founder.fang@philips.com wrote: > i use 4.2 release,my display card is i810,4.2 release does not contain XFree86 4.0, > so i download source for XFree86 4.02,after compile and install,i use XF86Setup,but > failed.it told me can not start X.what's the matter? > i choose some X Server(VGA SVGA...) when i install my system,shall i remove them before > i install XFree86 4.02 ? XFree86 3.x and 4.x use differing XF86Config file formats, as well as a different format for the server files. You should uninstall XFree86 3.x first before installing XFree86 4.x Christian Chen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 20:36:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from midget.dons.net.au (daniel.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4409E37B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (guppy.dons.net.au [203.31.81.9]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f373ZrD95498; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:05:53 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200104062100.f36L0ih31332@wattres.Watt.COM> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 13:05:50 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: (Steve Watt) Subject: Re: SOLVED: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3 Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 06-Apr-2001 Steve Watt wrote: > >I have a fresh install of 4.3 here which exhibits the same problem. What > >version of X are you using? > >(both xterm and eterm exhibit it) > Make sure you've rebuilt rxvt/xterm/whatever; I saw this once (on > another OS) when the tty headers changed a wee tad. A quick glance > at the recent commits doesn't tell *me* anything that might have hit > here, but one can never be 100% certain... I don't think this is the case.. I am seeing this problem after installing FreeBSD 4.3 and then building everything on this machine (ie rxvt, xterm etc). --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 20:55:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.188.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5205737B42C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:55:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (backup.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f373tBT06944; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:55:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:55:11 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: To: Mike Ruhl Cc: , Subject: Re: Build failure. :( In-Reply-To: <3ACE341D.A2825526@network-alchemy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yep, same thing here. Upgrading to 4.2-RELEASE works. Warner, here's a suggested change to UPDATING: > diff -u UPDATING.orig UPDATING --- UPDATING.orig Sat Apr 7 13:44:06 2001 +++ UPDATING Sat Apr 7 13:47:00 2001 @@ -176,8 +176,8 @@ Except when it doesn't work :-) - To update from 3.x to 4.x stable - -------------------------------- + To update from 3.x to 4.2-RELEASE + --------------------------------- *********************************************************** READ -STABLE ARCHIVES FOR THE LAST WEEK OR TWO BEFORE STARTING THIS PROCESS. UPDATING MAY LAG BEHIND A LITTLE @@ -214,7 +214,7 @@ and then do a make buildworld + make installworld after you are back to above: MAKE_KERBEROS4 - [3] Update to 4.x-stable sources. Make sure that you get all + [3] Update to 4.2-RELEASE sources. Make sure that you get all the parts. If you are using cvsup files that are older than a couple of months, be sure they have all the components listed in /usr/share/examples/cvsup. Crypto and secure are now On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Mike Ruhl wrote: > Howdy, > > I am attempting to upgrade a 3.5.1 box to the lastest 4.2 (.3RC?) > stable release. I am getting the following compile error. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks! > > Mike > > > c++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/g++ -O -pipe > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/lib > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc:80: > warning: `catch', `throw', and `try' are all C++ reserved words > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc: In > function `void operator delete(void *)': > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc:82: > declaration of `operator delete(void *)' throws different > exceptions... > :82: ...from previous declaration here > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 21:19:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bilbo.marshall.edu (bilbo.MARSHALL.EDU [206.212.27.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA1E37B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:19:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haught12@marshall.edu) Received: from 0 (webmail.MARSHALL.EDU [206.212.27.46]) by marshall.edu (PMDF V5.2-33 #37574) with ESMTP id <01K22ZNJBOA68Y5DVZ@marshall.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:31:18 EST Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:38:20 -0400 From: Matt Haught Subject: IP Filter =?iso-8859-1?q?3.4.17=3F?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <01K22ZNJBR3K8Y5DVZ@marshall.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMHO/0.98.1 (Webmail for Roxen) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it too late to update ipfilter in -STABLE? 3.4.16 seems to have a serious bug. Darren just sent out this to the ipfilter mailling list: -----snip---- A *VERY* serious bug has been brought to my attention in IPFilter. In 10 words or less, fragment caching with can let through "any" packet. Ok, so that's 8. Cause ===== When matching a fragment, only srcip, dstip and IP ID# are checked and the fragment cache is checked *before* any rules are checked. It does not even need to be a fragment. Even if you block all fragments with a rule, fragment cache entries can be created by packets that match state information currently held. ------snip---- -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 21:21:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F303637B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (root@ns1.unixathome.org [192.168.0.20]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f374Lge45348; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:21:43 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200104070421.f374Lge45348@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: Matt Haught Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:21:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: IP Filter 3.4.17? Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" In-reply-to: <01K22ZNJBR3K8Y5DVZ@marshall.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is the second time this has been asked today. Are we asking in the right place? On 6 Apr 2001, at 14:38, Matt Haught wrote: > Is it too late to update ipfilter in -STABLE? 3.4.16 seems to have a > serious bug. Darren just sent out this to the ipfilter mailling list: > > -----snip---- > A *VERY* serious bug has been brought to my attention in IPFilter. > > In 10 words or less, fragment caching with can let through "any" > packet. > Ok, so that's 8. > > Cause > ===== > When matching a fragment, only srcip, dstip and IP ID# are checked and > the fragment cache is checked *before* any rules are checked. It does > not even need to be a fragment. Even if you block all fragments with > a rule, fragment cache entries can be created by packets that match > state information currently held. > ------snip---- > > -Matt > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 21:23:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A7537B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (root@ns1.unixathome.org [192.168.0.20]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f374NNe45405; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:23:23 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200104070423.f374NNe45405@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: "stable@freebsd.org" Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:23:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_frag.c ip_frag.h ip_n Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: "Phillip" , Matt Haught X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think we have our answer. ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: Darren Reed Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_frag.c ip_frag.h ip_nat.c ip_nat.h ip_state.c To: dan@langille.org Date sent: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:40:21 +1000 (EST) Copies to: darrenr@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG In some email I received from Dan Langille, sie wrote: > On 6 Apr 2001, at 8:52, Darren Reed wrote: > > > darrenr 2001/04/06 08:52:29 PDT > > > > Modified files: > > sys/netinet ip_frag.c ip_frag.h ip_nat.c ip_nat.h > > ip_state.c > > Log: > > fix security hole created by fragment cache > > Will this be MFC'd to -stable in time for 4.3-release? Yes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 21:28:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.nc.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A6137B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:28:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bts@babbleon.org) Received: from babbleon.org ([66.26.250.181]) by Mail6.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:27:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3ACE972D.A13CF44C@babbleon.org> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 00:27:26 -0400 From: The Babbler Organization: None to speak of X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rasputin Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disklabel 101? References: <20010405111707.A35325@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rasputin wrote: > > Is there a decent walkthrough anywhere on the Net for using > disklabel, fdisk , etc - along with an explanation of what a,c etc all > mean? > > man disklabel etc all assume you know what those letters mean. > I know c is the whole partition, but that's it. c = entire disk a = root b = swap d = ??? I don't know; it's never used e+ = other partitions. BTW, does anybody know *why* BSD uses such a bizarre scheme? > > I need to know because: > > <-----EXTENDED-----><------PHYSICAL------------> > > ad0s1 ad0s5 ad0s6 ad0s3 > <-winXX--><-msdos-><-------BSD----------------> > | 2Gb | 1.5Gb | 2Gb | / | swap | /usr | /var | > ^ > | > I have an old Slackware partition > that has FUBARed itself so throuoghly that it can't even be mounted. This isn't really disklabel at all; it's the low-level format, which is why I can help. > > (Actually there were about 3 partitions in there, but they're lost now) > It's in the second logical partition in an extended DOS partition on > my second physical partition (dev/ad0s6 in FreeBSD) > There's a Gb of data in ad0s5 (which is fine). FreeBSD doesn't know from extended partitions from what I can see. Does your FreeBSD actually see od0s5/ad0s6? 'Cause mine never seemed to found; I used PartitionMagic to convert my DOS partition from logical to primary largely to deal with this. Was I missing a big clue? Try typing "fdisk /dev/ad0" to get an idea of how FreeBSD really sees your disk. Anyway, as far as *I* am aware what you've really got is: ad0s1 - first partition = winXx ad0s2 - second partiion = extended ad0s3 = third partition = BSD The disklabel program is concerned only with dividing up ad0s3. You can make a file system on ad0s2 and it certianly ought not overlap anything, but run "fdisk" to be sure things are really confused. If you can access ad0s5/ad0s6, please let me know. It would be news to me! (And what release are you running, BTW?) > BSD dumps ad0s6 altogether when it boots; and fdisk from a > boot CD says something along the lines of: > "Second slice extended past end of disk" or similar > (box is offline today, so I can't check right now) > This concerns me; if I try to fdisk/newfs ad0s2 (assuming I > could see it), I risk losing ad0s3, which is the only bit of the disk > I really want to keep. > > I assume/hope that if I blow away the extended partition > entirely, I can just recreate it. > But I don't really know what it's called? > Is it ad0s2? > And won't I need to let BSD know where / has moved to? > > What I'd really like is some advice from anyone who knows this stuff. > But I'm surprised the Handbook doesn't go into a lot of detail on this, > since dual-boot systems are fairly common amongst cheapskates like me. > > If I can free up that 2Gb, maybe I'll have space for the docproj port... :) > -- > Rasputin > Jack of All Trades :: Master of Nuns > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" bts@babbleon.org Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 21:28:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C926337B43F for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:28:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (root@ns1.unixathome.org [192.168.0.20]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f374RKe45465; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:27:20 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200104070427.f374RKe45465@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: "Phillip" , Matt Haught Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:27:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_frag.c ip_frag.h ip_n Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: "stable@freebsd.org" In-reply-to: <200104070423.f374NNe45405@ns1.unixathome.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Apr 2001, at 0:23, Dan Langille wrote: > I think we have our answer. My apologies for not reading correctly. The MFC has already occurred. See http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1125147+0+current/cvs-all -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 23: 4:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoncella.ameritech.net (adsl-pool28-104.detroit.mi.ameritech.net [64.108.61.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C9937B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ehoward@phoncella.ameritech.net) Received: (from ehoward@localhost) by phoncella.ameritech.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f3763kZ01696; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 02:03:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 02:03:46 -0400 From: "Eric L. Howard" To: Robert Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: 4.3-Rc, UserPPP and gatewaying???? mystery to me. Message-ID: <20010407020346.A983@ameritech.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from robert@chalmers.com.au on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 04:32:52PM +1000 X-FavoriteScripture: Romans 8:18 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At a certain time, now past, Robert spake thusly: > > > Thanks to those offering helpfull advice. I appreciate it. > I do love 4.3, compared to 2.2 it's very clever. I still have this problem > of course - and cant' figure it out at all.. > > I have mgetty configured on the secondary server (on the ethernet), and > AutoPPP working fine. > I can dial in to the server with a '98 Laptop, and it connects and I can > talk to the server - and the server can talk to me. > --------8<--snip-------- > ======= /etc/ppp/ppp.conf ========= > pap: > allow users merlin > set log Phase Chat Connect IPCP > enable pap > enable chap > enable passwdauth > set timeout 900 > accept dns > accept chap > #enable proxy > set dns 203.1.96.5 203.1.96.6 > set nbns 203.1.96.26 > add default HISADDR > .............................. > Looks like lack of proxy arp...I know it's disabled in 4.2-STABLE by default ~ELH~ -- E r i c L. H o w a r d e h o w a r d @ a m e r i t e c h . n e t //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "You can't hold a man down without staying down with him." -Booker T. Washington PGP KeyID:0x27586E9B Fingerprint:0BF7 F677 E4F3 E2F1 ACBF F786 754A 8F11 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 23:12:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2870037B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f376D8U01802; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:13:08 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "Eric L. Howard" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable List" Subject: RE: 4.3-Rc, UserPPP and gatewaying???? mystery to me. Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:15:09 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <20010407020346.A983@ameritech.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That was it Eric, thanks. Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Eric L. Howard > Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2001 4:04 PM > To: Robert > Cc: FreeBSD Stable List > Subject: Re: 4.3-Rc, UserPPP and gatewaying???? mystery to me. > > > At a certain time, now past, Robert spake thusly: > > > > > > Thanks to those offering helpfull advice. I appreciate it. > > I do love 4.3, compared to 2.2 it's very clever. I still have > this problem > > of course - and cant' figure it out at all.. > > > > I have mgetty configured on the secondary server (on the ethernet), and > > AutoPPP working fine. > > I can dial in to the server with a '98 Laptop, and it connects and I can > > talk to the server - and the server can talk to me. > > > --------8<--snip-------- > > ======= /etc/ppp/ppp.conf ========= > > pap: > > allow users merlin > > set log Phase Chat Connect IPCP > > enable pap > > enable chap > > enable passwdauth > > set timeout 900 > > accept dns > > accept chap > > #enable proxy > > set dns 203.1.96.5 203.1.96.6 > > set nbns 203.1.96.26 > > add default HISADDR > > .............................. > > > > Looks like lack of proxy arp...I know it's disabled in 4.2-STABLE > by default > > ~ELH~ > > -- > E r i c L. H o w a r d e h o w a r d @ a m e r i > t e c h . n e t > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > ////////////// > "You can't hold a man down without staying down with him." > -Booker T. Washington > PGP KeyID:0x27586E9B Fingerprint:0BF7 F677 E4F3 E2F1 ACBF > F786 754A 8F11 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 6 23:15:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rmstar.campus.luth.se (rmstar.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCD637B42C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:15:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murduth@rmstar.campus.luth.se) Received: from rmstar.campus.luth.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rmstar.campus.luth.se (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f376FBa00225 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:15:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from murduth@rmstar.campus.luth.se) Message-Id: <200104070615.f376FBa00225@rmstar.campus.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.3 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Instalation problems in latest stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 08:15:11 +0200 From: Joakim Henriksson Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I this morning was installing the latest world I had built the install failed due to new files that wanted to live in nonexistant directories. The directories in question that I had problem with was: /usr/share/nls/el_GR.ISO_8859-7 /usr/share/examples/BSD_daemon A had to create these myself to get the install to finish. -- regards/ Joakim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 0: 5:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boco.fee.vutbr.cz (boco.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.9.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABADC37B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz) Received: from kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz (kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.8.12]) by boco.fee.vutbr.cz (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3775nt77373 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:05:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from cejkar@localhost) by kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f3775nJ00964; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:05:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:05:49 +0200 From: Cejka Rudolf To: Ian Dowse Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About NFS and NFSv3/UDP errors with iozone Message-ID: <20010407090549.A832@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz> References: <20010406092243.A47655@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz> <200104061055.aa15749@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104061055.aa15749@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>; from iedowse@maths.tcd.ie on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:55:14AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ian Dowse wrote (2001/04/06): > If this is what I think it is, then you could work around it by > either adding "-d,-t2" to the mount options, or don't use the "soft" > option. Thanks, it really helped to remove "soft". Currently, Solaris writes "NFS server not responding still trying" and "NFS server ok" during NFSv3/UDP tests, so I can conclude that it seems that NFSv2/NFSv3 is sufficiently stable on FreeBSD now. Good thing. Unfortunately, I can not use "-d" nor "-t2" in Solaris, because it has somewhat different implementation. However, I can play with "timeo=n" and "retrans=n" parameters in the future tests. Once again thanks. -- Rudolf Cejka (cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz; http://www.fee.vutbr.cz/~cejkar) Brno University of Technology, Faculty of El. Engineering and Comp. Science Bozetechova 2, 612 66 Brno, Czech Republic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 0: 8:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E605737B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:08:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id yavaaaaa for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:08:22 +1000 Message-ID: <3ACEBDB0.DD6555C8@quake.com.au> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 17:11:44 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: ntpd root exploit - advisory? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just wondering why there has been no security advisory on the announce list about the ntpd root exploit and buffer overflow allowing for syslog DoS attack... I noticed that a few fixes have been committed to stable for ntpd, but no advisory... Whats going on? Is it still not totally fixed yet? Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 0:33:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www-es.fernuni-hagen.de (ES-i2.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F1237B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Received: from fernuni-hagen.de (www-es.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.81]) by www-es.fernuni-hagen.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f377XSc27993; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:33:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Message-ID: <3ACEC2CA.14F367C5@fernuni-hagen.de> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 09:33:30 +0200 From: "F. Heinrichmeyer" Organization: FernUni in Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: de, en, de-DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: ALS-4000 pci-sound recognized? References: <3ACEBDB0.DD6555C8@quake.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, what files should i tweak for the ALS-4000 sound card to be recognized? (PCI-Soundcard)? i changed one line in the pci-helper c file to get this line in dmesg: chip1: port 0x2400-0x247f irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 Any idea? -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 0:46:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A2137B42C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f377m4U02120 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:48:04 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: EasyIO-4 drivers in 4.3. Warning message: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:50:04 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know if anyone in this list (is there a better one?) has much to do with this level of operation, but I would like to get the EasyIO-4 serial card working. I disabled all other ports today, and tried again to see what the problem was with the EasyIO-4 card (1400 chip) syslog came up with this when I did "cu -l /dev/cue0 dir" Apr 7 15:29:59 ruby /kernel: WARNING: driver stl should register devices with make_dev() (dev_t = "#stl/128") ~ Does anyone know perhaps what this is telling me? As a warning, is it fatal? hmmm. thanks Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 1:19:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9752937B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010407081955.WPCG3930.femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com@math.missouri.edu>; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:19:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3ACECDA4.AC4B9BDD@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 03:19:48 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: ntpd root exploit - advisory? References: <3ACEBDB0.DD6555C8@quake.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I speak with no knowledge, but my experience is that these advisories always come out a few weeks after the problem has been fixed. Kal Torak wrote: > > Just wondering why there has been no security advisory on the > announce list about the ntpd root exploit and buffer overflow > allowing for syslog DoS attack... > > I noticed that a few fixes have been committed to stable for > ntpd, but no advisory... Whats going on? Is it still not totally > fixed yet? > -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 1:31:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.foote.com.au (zeus.foote.com.au [203.32.153.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF00B37B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@foote.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.foote.com.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f378VIq54707; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:01:18 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from chris@foote.com.au) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:01:17 +0930 (CST) From: Chris Foote X-X-Sender: To: Robert Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Sorry, but this 4.3 box has me totally stumped. It simply won't gateway the PPP link. FULL details of setups. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Robert wrote: > this is becoming a mystery. I'm reasonably familiar with dns, routing, and > so on. This is all the detail I have, and all the configs I have in place. > Yet..... I can not get that laptop visible on the newtork. On .96.6 yes. > But no where else. > > If anyone can see what I'm missing here, I'd love to know. When I had the > laptop talking to the .96.5 box it works fine. > Talking to the .96.6 box. It will ONLY talk to the 96.6 box. > >This is the ppp.conf entry >pap: > allow users merlin > set log Phase Chat Connect IPCP > enable pap > enable chap > enable passwdauth > set timeout 900 > accept dns > accept chap > #enable proxy > set dns 203.1.96.5 203.1.96.6 > set nbns 203.1.96.26 > add 203.1.96.3 203.1.96.6 try uncommenting the proxy line - i.e.: enable proxy proxy ARP is disabled by default. befoer & after, check arp entries using `arp -a` Chris Foote chris@foote.com.au ph: +61 42 10101 88 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 2:48:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01CCD37B42C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 02:48:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 47803 invoked by uid 100); 7 Apr 2001 09:48:43 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15054.57979.84674.462609@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 04:48:43 -0500 To: The Babbler Cc: Rasputin , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disklabel 101? In-Reply-To: <3ACE972D.A13CF44C@babbleon.org> References: <20010405111707.A35325@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3ACE972D.A13CF44C@babbleon.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The Babbler types: > Rasputin wrote: > > man disklabel etc all assume you know what those letters mean. > > I know c is the whole partition, but that's it. > > c = entire disk > a = root > b = swap > d = ??? I don't know; it's never used > e+ = other partitions. > > BTW, does anybody know *why* BSD uses such a bizarre scheme? BSD does it this way because the Unix it was based on did it. This dates back to at least v6, where I first met it. Root and swap used to be wired into the kernel at config time, and making the first two partitions the system had to find while booting the first two in the table does make sense. C was required and unusuable; it included the cylinders that were reserved for bad block handling, and the tools that did that assumed it was there. It was also used for disk-disk backups at times. At the time, computers were typically used by more than one department at a time. This led to even more reasons to want to partition a disk. If memory serves, partition table information used to be in the kernel - wired into the driver for that disk - so all disks of the same type had to have the same partition table. So it was useful to stagger the partition sizes to provide more choices. A typical setup might have f, g and h about the same size and covering the entire disk. e was what was left in f after a & b were taken out. d was the usable disk beyond a & b (or something like that). The only thing that's still hardwired is that root has to be on a. The boot sequence is fubar if you don't do that, though it's been claimed that that's not hard to fix. The rest you can do pretty much any way you please. I.e. - you don't need swap at all, and I've got one system that has swap on a different slice than it's root file system. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 5:17:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (smtp7.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDED637B42C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 05:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@lawnet.xs4all.nl) Received: from list1.xs4all.nl (list1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.52]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03403 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:17:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from root@localhost) by list1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20967; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:17:53 +0200 (CEST) From: "Lars Wittebrood" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Via: imploder /usr/local/lib/mail/news2mail/news2mail at list1.xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Is there an example of static_routes Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:22:20 +0200 Organization: XS4ALL Internet BV Message-ID: <9an0gp$l8q$1@news1.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, something like : static_routes="intern" route_intern="-net 172.16.0.0/24 192.168.1.254" Greetz, Lars. "Robert" wrote in message news:list.freebsd.stable#EJEPLCEELLLLAMPNEJMHCECFCOAA.robert@chalmers.com.au ... > > > static_routes=" > > does anyone have an example of adding static reoutes here, in rc.conf > > thanks > Robert > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 7:21:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mohegan.mohawk.net (mohegan.mohawk.net [63.66.68.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9E337B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:21:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd@mohawk.net) Received: from localhost (fbsd@localhost) by mohegan.mohawk.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA92927 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:22:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fbsd@mohawk.net) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:22:38 -0400 (EDT) From: FreeBSD Admin To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe cvs-all Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 7:22:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mohegan.mohawk.net (mohegan.mohawk.net [63.66.68.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E935437B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:22:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd@mohawk.net) Received: from localhost (fbsd@localhost) by mohegan.mohawk.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA92933 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:23:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fbsd@mohawk.net) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:23:24 -0400 (EDT) From: FreeBSD Admin To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe freebsd-security Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-security To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 7:25:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mohegan.mohawk.net (mohegan.mohawk.net [63.66.68.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB04237B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:25:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjh@mohawk.net) Received: from mohegan.mohawk.net (mohegan.mohawk.net [63.66.68.21]) by mohegan.mohawk.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA93002 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:26:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rjh@mohawk.net) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:26:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Ralph Huntington To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: unsubscribe freebsd-security Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe freebsd-security To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 7:28:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mohegan.mohawk.net (mohegan.mohawk.net [63.66.68.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D777A37B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd@mohawk.net) Received: from localhost (fbsd@localhost) by mohegan.mohawk.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA93076 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:29:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fbsd@mohawk.net) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:29:41 -0400 (EDT) From: FreeBSD Admin To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sorry about that In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this should have gone to another address, obviously. really sorry about that. -=r=- On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Ralph Huntington wrote: > unsubscribe freebsd-security > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 7:53:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (18.gibs5.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.184.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B0A37B43C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:53:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Received: from shazam (shazam [192.168.5.3]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f37Eqeq13910 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:52:40 GMT (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:56:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Durham X-Sender: durham@shazam.int To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: D-Link DFE-650 on RC2 no icmp? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a brandy-new Dell Inspiron 4000 laptop. I first installed 4.3BETA and found that the DFE-650 D-Link ethernet card did not work. I then discovered the fa_select "helper" app, which made it work, but noticed that I could not do an incoming connection to the laptop, only outgoing. Also, I could not ping it nor did ftp work, except in passive mode (from the laptop), as it apparently could not set up the "reverse channel" . Likewise, I could SSH from the desktop to the laptop, but not the other way. This card uses the "ed" driver. Tcpdump shows the connecting machine sending arp requests, which don't appear to be satisfied. However, the MAC address of the laptop *does* show up in the arp table of the desktop. (??) I cvsup'd to RC2 and now I don't need fa_select to make the card work, (thanks!), but it still exhibits the icmp problem. After joining this list and reading 1200 messages (!), I didn't see this, so, can anyone comment on this? Thanks, Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 8:42: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB14E37B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:41:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ve3wwg@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.141.193.224]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010407154156.PZZ3428.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@home.com> for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:41:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3ACF3544.6B3D486@home.com> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:41:56 -0400 From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Resolver problems with 4.3-RC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Earlier I reported hangs WRT xterm/rlogin and I now have that mystery solved. It seems that since 4.2-RELEASE the resolver behavior has changed for certain system components. I run a name server on this particular host. The first clue was that when I did a netstat -a, it hung on certain interface addresses. The nslookup and dig commands all resolve these addresses just fine, however. THE PROBLEM IS THAT netstat and login/rlogin insist that these reverse lookups occur in the /etc/hosts file. Once I register all the addresses there, the 2-minute hangs go away. Under the 4.2-RELEASE, these were resolving from my nameserver just fine. Is there a configuration change that I am unaware of? It sure is a pain to maintain host numbers in both the name server and the /etc/hosts file. Thanks, Warren. Addendums: I run a primary name server on my host. The /etc/resolv.conf thus looks like this: domain mydomain.org nameserver 127.0.0.1 My /etc/host.conf is: # $FreeBSD: src/etc/host.conf,v 1.6 1999/08/27 23:23:41 peter Exp $ # First try the /etc/hosts file hosts # Now try the nameserver next. bind # If you have YP/NIS configured, uncomment the next line # nis Commenting out the hosts line did not seem to help. -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://members.home.net/ve3wwg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 9:30:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E1437B42C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:30:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA01575 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:30:09 +0400 (MSD) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.3/Clnt-2.14-AS-eef) id UAA40582; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:30:07 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:30:07 +0400 (MSD) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: osreldate.h: No such file or directory Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have just cvsup-ed FreeBSD-stable to our server, 'made buildworld' there (successfully) and would like now to 'make installworld' on one of workstations (which runs the same 4.2-RELEASE as the server does). Source tree is mounted to the workstation via NFS. It was successful some time ago with other machine, but now I have the following error: cd /mnt/astro/opt/src/include/rpc; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 auth.h auth_unix.h clnt.h pmap_clnt.h pmap_prot.h pmap_rmt.h rpc.h rpc_com.h rpc_msg.h svc.h svc_auth.h types.h xdr.h auth_des.h des.h des_crypt.h /usr/include/rpc install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /mnt/astro/opt/src/include/osreldate.h /usr/include install: /mnt/astro/opt/src/include/osreldate.h: No such file or directory What could be the problem? Please cc: me your reply. Thanks, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 9:35:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A891E37B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:35:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F2FC5A91E; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:34:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:34:44 -0500 From: Andrew Hesford To: Christian Chen Cc: founder.fang@philips.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my i810 card doesn't work Message-ID: <20010407113444.A58031@cec.wustl.edu> References: <0056920010465505000002L252*@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from oistrakh@earthlink.net on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 08:27:34PM -0700 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 08:27:34PM -0700, Christian Chen wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 founder.fang@philips.com wrote: > >> i use 4.2 release,my display card is i810,4.2 release does not >> contain XFree86 4.0, so i download source for XFree86 4.02,after >> compile and install,i use XF86Setup,but failed.it told me can not >> start X.what's the matter? i choose some X Server(VGA SVGA...) >> when i install my system,shall i remove them before i install >> XFree86 4.02 ? > > XFree86 3.x and 4.x use differing XF86Config file formats, as well as > a different format for the server files. You should uninstall XFree86 3.x > first before installing XFree86 4.x > > Christian Chen The i810 is a piece of trash... I know this because I use one. Since it is supported in XFree86 4.x only on Linux at this time, you are restricted to XFree86 4.0.1 on FreeBSD, since this version has patchfiles which correct the AGP code. In 4.0.2, the driver was totally restructured, and the port maintainer has removed the old patchfiles. Consequently, while the i810 will work in 4.0.2-4.0.3, switching consoles and then switching back will crash your X server, and it won't work properly until you reboot. If you want a fully-functional XFree86 install for your FreeBSD box, find an old copy of the ports tree (the one in 4.2-RELEASE works fine) with XFree86 4.0.1, and build it from there. Downloading the source from xfree86.org will not work, unless you intend to fix the i810 driver. One more thing... XF86Setup is 3.3.x-only. You need to either write the config file by hand, or use xf86config to build a skeleton for you. I imagine that the generic SVGA server will work for the i810, but somehow, dual-head at 640x480x8bpp per screen seems a little pointless. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 9:41:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AEF37B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f37GewY18778; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:40:58 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Alexey Koptsevich Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: osreldate.h: No such file or directory Message-ID: <20010407094058.D15938@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 08:30:07PM +0400 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Alexey Koptsevich [010407 09:30] wrote: > > Hello, > > I have just cvsup-ed FreeBSD-stable to our server, 'made buildworld' there > (successfully) and would like now to 'make installworld' on one of > workstations (which runs the same 4.2-RELEASE as the server does). Source > tree is mounted to the workstation via NFS. It was successful some time > ago with other machine, but now I have the following error: > > cd /mnt/astro/opt/src/include/rpc; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 > auth.h auth_unix.h clnt.h pmap_clnt.h pmap_prot.h pmap_rmt.h rpc.h > rpc_com.h rpc_msg.h svc.h svc_auth.h types.h xdr.h auth_des.h des.h > des_crypt.h /usr/include/rpc > install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /mnt/astro/opt/src/include/osreldate.h > /usr/include > install: /mnt/astro/opt/src/include/osreldate.h: No such file or directory > > > What could be the problem? > > Please cc: me your reply. It's no sufficient to just mount over /usr/src, what you need to do on the client is mount the src and obj in the same place as they are on your server (/vol/src? or whatever) then symlink as you've done on the server then try again. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Represent yourself, show up at BABUG http://www.babug.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 10: 1: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8D537B423; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA22626; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:00:51 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda22624; Sat Apr 7 10:00:34 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f37H0T377042; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdO77026; Sat Apr 7 09:59:52 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f37GxpB03622; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104071659.f37GxpB03622@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdZF3614; Sat Apr 7 09:59:34 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: dan@langille.org, jkh@freebsd.org Cc: "Phillip" , "stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Fwd: URGENT: Serious bug in IPFilter In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Apr 2001 17:43:15 EDT." <200104062143.f36LhNe42316@ns1.unixathome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 09:59:34 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200104062143.f36LhNe42316@ns1.unixathome.org>, "Dan Langille" write s: > On 7 Apr 2001, at 7:23, Phillip wrote: > > > In the last few hours, the author of IPF issued this notice with some patch > es > > for a bug. I didn't include the patch because it looks as though its been > > revised. But depending on the state of play with the timetable for > > 4.3-RELEASE, it may be possible to include the updated version in > > a later version of -RELEASE or -STABLE. > > Darren Reed has committed the changes to -current (see > 200104061552.f36FqTf87523@freefall.freebsd.org). I've already asked > Darren via cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org and cvs-all@FreeBSD.org if it > can be MFC'd before 4.3-RELEASE. > > Darren's original post and the fragment patches area available at > http://false.net/ipfilter/2001_04/0087.html. > > I too would like to them MFC'd. Failing that, I'm trying to confirm the > patch instructions via the ipfilter mailing list. If they're not MFC'd by the time 4.3 is released, IMO 4.3 would be shipped with a serious security flaw. Jordan, would you please consider approving the MFC of the IP Filter security patches? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 10: 5:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1A937B43C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA02198; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:05:30 +0400 (MSD) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.3/Clnt-2.14-AS-eef) id VAA40791; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:05:28 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:05:28 +0400 (MSD) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: osreldate.h: No such file or directory In-Reply-To: <20010407094058.D15938@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > install: /mnt/astro/opt/src/include/osreldate.h: No such file or directory > It's no sufficient to just mount over /usr/src, what you need to do > on the client is mount the src and obj in the same place as they > are on your server (/vol/src? or whatever) then symlink as you've > done on the server then try again. Thanks, that was indeed the mistake, but correction did not help. This file is really absent on the server, but it is present on both hosts as client>ls -l /opt/obj/opt/src/i386/usr/include/osreldate.h -rwxr-xr-x 1 admin guest 1513 7 ÁÐÒ 19:34 /opt/obj/opt/src/i386/usr/include/osreldate.h server>ls -l /opt/obj/opt/src/i386/usr/include/osreldate.h -rwxr-xr-x 1 admin guest 1513 7 ÁÐÒ 19:34 /opt/obj/opt/src/i386/usr/include/osreldate.h -- as you may see, they are visible under the same name on both machines... Thanks, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 10: 6: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B68437B424; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:06:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (root@ns1.unixathome.org [192.168.0.20]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f37H4ue49890; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 05:04:57 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200104071704.f37H4ue49890@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , jkh@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:04:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Fwd: URGENT: Serious bug in IPFilter Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: "Phillip" , "stable@freebsd.org" In-reply-to: <200104071659.f37GxpB03622@cwsys.cwsent.com> References: Your message of "Fri, 06 Apr 2001 17:43:15 EDT." <200104062143.f36LhNe42316@ns1.unixathome.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Apr 2001, at 9:59, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > In message <200104062143.f36LhNe42316@ns1.unixathome.org>, "Dan > Langille" write > s: > > On 7 Apr 2001, at 7:23, Phillip wrote: > > > > > In the last few hours, the author of IPF issued this notice with some patch > > es > > > for a bug. I didn't include the patch because it looks as though its been > > > revised. But depending on the state of play with the timetable for > > > 4.3-RELEASE, it may be possible to include the updated version in > > > a later version of -RELEASE or -STABLE. > > > > Darren Reed has committed the changes to -current (see > > 200104061552.f36FqTf87523@freefall.freebsd.org). I've already asked > > Darren via cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org and cvs-all@FreeBSD.org if it > > can be MFC'd before 4.3-RELEASE. > > > > Darren's original post and the fragment patches area available at > > http://false.net/ipfilter/2001_04/0087.html. > > > > I too would like to them MFC'd. Failing that, I'm trying to confirm the > > patch instructions via the ipfilter mailing list. > > If they're not MFC'd by the time 4.3 is released, IMO 4.3 would be > shipped with a serious security flaw. > > Jordan, would you please consider approving the MFC of the IP Filter > security patches? It's already been committed. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1125147+0+current/cvs-all -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 10:25:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F27037B424 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:25:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graywane@home.com) Received: from cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com ([65.2.79.221]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010407172520.HVII26721.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com> for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:25:20 -0700 Received: (from graywane@localhost) by cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f37HPJf34050 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:25:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from graywane) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:25:18 -0400 From: Graywane To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: latest sound commit broke stable kernel build Message-ID: <20010407132518.A34012@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the following change broke the stable kernel build. Before this change everything compiled fine. After the change you get the error at the end of this email. /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/cmi.c revision 1.1.2.2 date: 2001/04/07 14:16:31; author: orion; state: Exp; lines: +303 -233 MFC sample rate fixes for release. Approved by: jkh cc -c -O -march=3Dk6 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 ../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c =2E./../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c: In function cmi_init': =2E./../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: CMPCI_REG_N4SPK3D' undeclared (first use in this function) =2E./../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: (Each undeclared identifier is reported on= ly once =2E./../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/BALROG. --=20 Note: See http://www.members.home.net/graywane/ for PGP information. --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrPTX4ACgkQeHdFaBWUGN1MJgCgsbvn4By9Um6TlUPpyso6L0c1 +ycAnjBwFjcZZLoEt3SySlHWgM/k5fFi =zsUR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 10:35:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F20537B42C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:35:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from cascade (cascade.veldy.net [64.1.117.29]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CC955BA40 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:34:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: Subject: BRIDGING, IPFW and SAMBA problem ... Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:33:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: High Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been using bridging for quite some time. After the major code stir up during 4.2 STABLE, briding works great again ... except Samba does now seem to work correctly. Everything on my Samba shares can be seen from Windows 2000 machines, but not from Win98 machines. Is there a protocol difference that would cause this? I can't upgrade all my Win98 machines to Windows 2000 because of old software requirements. My configuration is: FreeBSD fuggle.veldy.net 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Sat Apr 7 12:12:20 CDT 2001 It is based upon Mar 29 source. I have two dc nics. The outer nic is connected to my DSL bridge and the inner NIC is connected to a 10/100 switch for my LAN. I have assigned an IP to the inner nic. The IP is public (internet) as are all the IPs assigned to the machines on my LAN. I run IPFW to filter packets entering the FreeBSD machine. Also, I filter a very limited number of packets going to the lan. I have tried: ipfw add 1 pass all from any to any bridged ipfw add 2 pass all from any to any I still can't see Samba from my Win98 machines. Everything is otherwise wide open. All works fine (Samba included) when using NAT and a private net. Any ideas? Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 10:42: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dagobert.skystream.nl (smtp.uwnet.nl [195.7.130.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B8837B42C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:42:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abgoeree@uwnet.nl) Received: from dyn.dailup.c227129083.isd.to (dyn.dailup.c227129083.isd.to [213.227.129.83]) by dagobert.skystream.nl (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f37HkxA03071 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:46:59 +0200 Received: (qmail 37327 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Apr 2001 17:41:48 -0000 From: "Andre Goeree" Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:41:48 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest sound commit broke stable kernel build Message-ID: <20010407194148.A37322@mandark.attica.home> Reply-To: abgoeree@uwnet.nl References: <20010407132518.A34012@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010407132518.A34012@home.com>; from graywane@home.com on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 01:25:18PM -0400 X-Sender: abgoeree@uwnet.nl Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 01:25:18PM -0400, Graywane wrote: > I think the following change broke the stable kernel build. > Before this change everything compiled fine. After the change you get the > error at the end of this email. > > /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/cmi.c > revision 1.1.2.2 > date: 2001/04/07 14:16:31; author: orion; state: Exp; lines: +303 -233 > MFC sample rate fixes for release. > Approved by: jkh > > > cc -c -O -march=k6 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c > ../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c: In function cmi_init': > ../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: CMPCI_REG_N4SPK3D' undeclared (first use in > this function) > ../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only > once > ../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 Same here --Andre. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 11:47: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.alphaque.com (ns2.alphaque.com [202.185.254.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2490937B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:46:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dinesh@alphaque.com) Received: (qmail 4178 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2001 18:46:54 -0000 Received: from j22.brf71.jaring.my (HELO prophet.alphaque.com) (161.142.173.216) by ns2.alphaque.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2001 18:46:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (97w4vl@localhost.alphaque.com [127.0.0.1]) by prophet.alphaque.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f37Fno603087; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:49:50 +0800 (MYT) (envelope-from dinesh@alphaque.com) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:49:50 +0800 (MYT) From: Dinesh Nair To: Mike Meyer Cc: The Babbler , Rasputin , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disklabel 101? In-Reply-To: <15054.57979.84674.462609@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > you please. I.e. - you don't need swap at all, and I've got one system > that has swap on a different slice than it's root file system. for performance reasons, that's wise. --dinesh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 11:52:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3BD837B43C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 91674 invoked by uid 100); 7 Apr 2001 18:52:26 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15055.25064.543389.828877@guru.mired.org> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:52:24 -0500 To: Dinesh Nair Cc: The Babbler , Rasputin , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disklabel 101? In-Reply-To: References: <15054.57979.84674.462609@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dinesh Nair types: > > On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > you please. I.e. - you don't need swap at all, and I've got one system > > that has swap on a different slice than it's root file system. > > for performance reasons, that's wise. If they were on different disks, that's certainly true. I'm not sure if it makes much difference on the same disk, though. With two disk I use one swap on each so the system can stripe them. This one is a test system; I'm running two versions of FreeBSD on it. They both use the same swap so I don't have to allocate swap for both. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 12: 4:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F4637B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:04:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f37J4a206163 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:04:36 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:04:36 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Subject: stable problem with sound/cmi? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG based on source code *just* cvsup'd down ... ===> sound/driver/cmi cc -O -mpentium -pipe -g -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -c /home/projects/pgsql/operating_system/src/sys/modules/sound/driver/cmi/../../../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c /home/projects/pgsql/operating_system/src/sys/modules/sound/driver/cmi/../../../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c: In function `cmi_init': /home/projects/pgsql/operating_system/src/sys/modules/sound/driver/cmi/../../../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: `CMPCI_REG_N4SPK3D' undeclared (first use in this function) /home/projects/pgsql/operating_system/src/sys/modules/sound/driver/cmi/../../../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /home/projects/pgsql/operating_system/src/sys/modules/sound/driver/cmi/../../../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 12: 6:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2FF37B42C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f37J6Bg06180; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:06:12 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:06:11 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Andre Goeree Cc: Subject: Re: latest sound commit broke stable kernel build In-Reply-To: <20010407194148.A37322@mandark.attica.home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG oops, just sent a 'me too' myself ... On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Andre Goeree wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 01:25:18PM -0400, Graywane wrote: > > I think the following change broke the stable kernel build. > > Before this change everything compiled fine. After the change you get the > > error at the end of this email. > > > > /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/cmi.c > > revision 1.1.2.2 > > date: 2001/04/07 14:16:31; author: orion; state: Exp; lines: +303 -233 > > MFC sample rate fixes for release. > > Approved by: jkh > > > > > > cc -c -O -march=k6 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs > > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > > -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. > > -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf > > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c > > ../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c: In function cmi_init': > > ../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: CMPCI_REG_N4SPK3D' undeclared (first use in > > this function) > > ../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only > > once > > ../../dev/sound/pci/cmi.c:747: for each function it appears in.) > > *** Error code 1 > > Same here > > --Andre. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 12:16:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tortugas.irbs.com (tortugas.irbs.com [216.86.160.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE9537B43E for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:16:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jc@irbs.com) Received: by tortugas.irbs.com (Postfix, from userid 108) id 4F94C13627; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:16:14 -0400 From: John Capo To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Fix for stable sound breakage Message-ID: <20010407151614.A33652@tortugas.irbs.com> Reply-To: jc@irbs.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Organization: IRBS Engineering, inc. 954-463-3771 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Index: sys/dev/sound/pci/cmireg.h =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/cmireg.h,v retrieving revision 1.1.2.1 diff -c -r1.1.2.1 cmireg.h *** sys/dev/sound/pci/cmireg.h 2001/02/27 03:42:28 1.1.2.1 --- sys/dev/sound/pci/cmireg.h 2001/04/07 19:14:28 *************** *** 114,119 **** --- 114,120 ---- #define CMPCI_REG_MISC 0x18 # define CMPCI_REG_POWER_DOWN 0x80000000 # define CMPCI_REG_BUS_AND_DSP_RESET 0x40000000 + # define CMPCI_REG_N4SPK3D 0x04000000 # define CMPCI_REG_W_SPDIF_48L 0x01000000 # define CMPCI_REG_SPDIF_48K 0x00008000 # define CMPCI_REG_FM_ENABLE 0x00080000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 13:20:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (18.gibs5.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.184.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C6737B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:20:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Received: from shazam (shazam [192.168.5.3]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f37KJFq15068 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:19:15 GMT (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:22:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Durham X-Sender: durham@shazam.int To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Page fault with adaptec scsi pccard Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying an Adaptec scsi controller (AIC6360) with 4.3RC2. It does not work correctly with the out of the box pccard.conf. However, more importantly, pulling the card has twice produced: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address =0x18 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instrutction pointer = 0x8:0xc019fed9 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0384b48 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0384b50 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor elflags = interrupt enablesd, resume IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = net tty bio cam trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 giving up on 8 buffers Uptime 4m49s Hope this is of some use.. -Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 13:54:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web13202.mail.yahoo.com (web13202.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96F3437B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:54:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lipshitz909@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010407205423.41681.qmail@web13202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.19.167.18] by web13202.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 07 Apr 2001 13:54:23 PDT Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:54:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Librettez Subject: Re: SOLVED: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3 To: Daniel O'Connor , steve@Watt.COM Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I also see the problem occuring in a fresh install of 4.3RC2 off the cdrom, as well as 5.0-CURRENT, after installing rxvt from ports in both cases. Perhaps there are build options in rxvt which would help circumvent this? Or perhaps not . . . Larry --- Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On 06-Apr-2001 Steve Watt wrote: > > >I have a fresh install of 4.3 here which exhibits > the same problem. What > > >version of X are you using? > > >(both xterm and eterm exhibit it) > > Make sure you've rebuilt rxvt/xterm/whatever; I > saw this once (on > > another OS) when the tty headers changed a wee > tad. A quick glance > > at the recent commits doesn't tell *me* anything > that might have hit > > here, but one can never be 100% certain... > > I don't think this is the case.. > I am seeing this problem after installing FreeBSD > 4.3 and then building > everything on this machine (ie rxvt, xterm etc). > > --- > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > "The nice thing about standards is that there > are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 14: 5:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wattres.Watt.COM (spare78.biz.net [208.177.80.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2B937B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:05:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@Watt.COM) Received: (from steve@localhost) by wattres.Watt.COM (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f37L5Zp65494 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:05:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve) Message-Id: <200104072105.f37L5Zp65494@wattres.Watt.COM> From: steve@Watt.COM (Steve Watt) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:05:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: Larry Librettez "Re: SOLVED: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3" (Apr 7, 13:54) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SOLVED: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Maybe you can isolate it a little bit: Do an 'stty erase2 ^H', and then start up an rxvt/eterm/aterm/et al from that same session. See if it inherits the correct erase2 character, or if it resets it to ')'. That way you'll get some hints about where the control characters are getting clobbered. If it *does* get the correct erase2 setting, your problem may be in the X startup scripts, or your .login/.profile. On Apr 7, 13:54, Larry Librettez wrote: } Subject: Re: SOLVED: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3 } I also see the problem occuring in a fresh install of } 4.3RC2 off the cdrom, as well as 5.0-CURRENT, after } installing rxvt from ports in both cases. } } Perhaps there are build options in rxvt which would } help circumvent this? Or perhaps not . . . } } Larry } } } --- Daniel O'Connor wrote: } > } > On 06-Apr-2001 Steve Watt wrote: } > > >I have a fresh install of 4.3 here which exhibits } > the same problem. What } > > >version of X are you using? } > > >(both xterm and eterm exhibit it) } > > Make sure you've rebuilt rxvt/xterm/whatever; I } > saw this once (on } > > another OS) when the tty headers changed a wee } > tad. A quick glance } > > at the recent commits doesn't tell *me* anything } > that might have hit } > > here, but one can never be 100% certain... } > } > I don't think this is the case.. } > I am seeing this problem after installing FreeBSD } > 4.3 and then building } > everything on this machine (ie rxvt, xterm etc). } > } > --- } > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer } > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au } > "The nice thing about standards is that there } > are so many of them to choose from." } > -- Andrew Tanenbaum } > } > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org } > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the } message } } } __________________________________________________ } Do You Yahoo!? } Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. } http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ }-- End of excerpt from Larry Librettez -- Steve Watt KD6GGD PP-ASEL-IA ICBM: 121W 56' 57.8" / 37N 20' 14.9" Internet: steve @ Watt.COM Whois: SW32 Free time? There's no such thing. It just comes in varying prices... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 14:21: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C423237B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:21:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: from hamlet.nectar.com (hamlet.nectar.com [10.0.1.102]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B0018D24; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:21:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nectar@localhost) by hamlet.nectar.com (8.11.3/8.9.3) id f37LL1r87337; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:21:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nectar@spawn.nectar.com) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:21:01 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOLVED: Neither aterm, eterm, nor rxvt can su to root in 4.3 Message-ID: <20010407162101.C87286@hamlet.nectar.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Daniel O'Connor , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010406085912.A20772@spawn.nectar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from doconnor@gsoft.com.au on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 03:54:00AM +0930 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 03:54:00AM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = ; > > eol2 = ; erase = ^H; erase2 = (; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; > > lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; > > status = ^G; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; > > > > Hmm, somewhere erase2 is getting set to the left paren. > > I have a fresh install of 4.3 here which exhibits the same > problem. What version of X are you using? (both xterm and eterm > exhibit it) XFree86 Version 4.0.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) Release Date: 1 July 2000 Must be getting munged somewhere during startup (using startx on this machine). When I log in remotely, erase2 is set correctly. -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 14:25:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB8037B424; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:25:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [63.198.170.139]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2418A3E09; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:25:42 -0700 (PDT) To: current@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: syscons panic in userconfig mode (with patch) Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 14:25:42 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010407212542.2418A3E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ cc'd to -stable since that's affected, too ] Attempting to switch VTYs in userconfig mode will lead to a null dereference in syscons. I saw some messages about this on -current, -stable, or -bugs recently, but I can't find them now. This is pretty easy to reproduce: simply boot the kernel with the -c flag (userconfig), and press ALT+F2 (i386). As far as I can tell, this isn't a new bug. The patch is also pretty trivial. It just changes the VIRTUAL_TTY macro not to blindly assume sc->dev[x] is a valid pointer. It is safe to have it "return" NULL because any code that uses it must (and does) already check for that condition since si_tty may also be NULL in some cases (or at least that's the way I understand it). Could someone please look it over and, if it's okay, commit it? Thanks, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org Index: syscons.c =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/src/sys/dev/syscons/syscons.c,v retrieving revision 1.355 diff -u -r1.355 syscons.c --- syscons.c 2001/03/26 12:40:39 1.355 +++ syscons.c 2001/04/07 21:02:31 @@ -122,7 +122,8 @@ #define SC_CONSOLECTL 255 -#define VIRTUAL_TTY(sc, x) (SC_DEV((sc), (x))->si_tty) +#define VIRTUAL_TTY(sc, x) (SC_DEV((sc), (x)) != NULL ? \ + SC_DEV((sc), (x))->si_tty : NULL) static int debugger; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 14:30:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from comm.uni-svishtov.bg (ns.uni-svishtov.bg [193.68.172.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4A037B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rvasilev@uni-svishtov.bg) Received: from grinch.uni-svishtov.bg (root@grinch.uni-svishtov.bg [193.68.172.9]) by comm.uni-svishtov.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18833 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:30:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: from deckland (deckland.uni-svishtov.bg [193.68.173.82]) by grinch.uni-svishtov.bg (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA12433 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:30:14 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <002301c0bf90$d0105120$52ad44c1@unisvishtov.bg> From: "Radoslav Vasilev" To: Subject: can't make snmp run on squid2.4 Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:30:24 +0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0BFC3.1A786680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0BFC3.1A786680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, I installed Squid2.4Stable1 on my FreeBSD 4.3RC machine from = ports/www Everything went smooth, I made it working, except for snmp. ---- deckland# squid -k check 2001/04/07 22:54:15| squid.conf line 1393: acl snmppublic snmp_community public 2001/04/07 22:54:15| aclParseAclLine: Invalid ACL type 'snmp_community' 2001/04/07 22:54:15| parseConfigFile: line 2176 unrecognized: 'snmp_port 3401' 2001/04/07 22:54:15| parseConfigFile: line 2190 unrecognized: = 'snmp_access allow snmppublic localhost' deckland# I thing it should work, shouldn't it? I'll apreciate any hint.10x in = advance ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0BFC3.1A786680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So, I installed Squid2.4Stable1 on my = FreeBSD=20 4.3RC machine from ports/www Everything went smooth, I made it = working,=20 except for snmp.
----
deckland# squid -k check
2001/04/07 = 22:54:15|=20 squid.conf line 1393: acl snmppublic = snmp_community
public
2001/04/07=20 22:54:15| aclParseAclLine: Invalid ACL type = 'snmp_community'
2001/04/07=20 22:54:15| parseConfigFile: line 2176 unrecognized:=20 'snmp_port
3401'
2001/04/07 22:54:15| parseConfigFile: line 2190=20 unrecognized: 'snmp_access
allow snmppublic = localhost'
deckland#
I=20 thing it should work, shouldn't it? I'll apreciate any hint.10x in=20 advance

------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0BFC3.1A786680-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 15:54:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trogon.kiwi.net (box189.2lm.com [207.155.82.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8C037B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:54:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ctaylor@kiwi.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by trogon.kiwi.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f37MsE601132 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:54:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ctaylor@kiwi.net) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:54:13 -0700 (PDT) From: The 13th Disciple X-Sender: root@trogon.kiwi.net To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cluster Solution for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20010406200342.R75859-100000@turtle.looksharp.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Foundry, Foundry, Foundry. On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Benjamin Flom wrote: > > >We are looking to setup a failover option and a load balancing otion > >using the servers that are in place. At this point we have loaded > >identical configurations on 3 machines. If one of the machines gets > >overloaded, we would like to off some of the processing or connection > >handling to one of the others. If one of the machines goes down we would > >like to have the broken box fail over, and have the other machines pick > >up the load. Ideally, we could add machines to and remove machines from > >the cluster as needed. The ability to maintain this configuration over a > >WAN would be of value as well. Is there any known way to do this, any > >direction we should follow, or is it just a pipe dream? > > I notice you're getting lots of software answers. Personally something > this complex and important to your operation I'd put your machines > behind a hardware load balancer. It will save time and subsequently > money in the long run. > > -- > Brandon D. Valentine > > This message is encrypted with ROT-26. Any attempt to circumvent this > encryption is expressly prohibited under 17 USC 512. Violators may be > prosecuted. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Christopher H. Taylor E-Architect / Software Developer "I prefer rogues to imbeciles, because they sometimes take a rest." -- Alexandre Dumas (fils) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 16:25: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net (fepout4.telus.net [199.185.220.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAE537B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from a1a69751@pop.telus.net) Received: from [192.168.0.16] ([209.53.58.16]) by priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.10 201-229-121-110) with SMTP id <20010407232504.YKFY982.priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net@[192.168.0.16]> for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:25:04 -0600 Subject: susbscribe Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:25:03 -0700 x-sender: a1a69751@pop.telus.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Anand R.Mani To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: <20010407232504.YKFY982.priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net@[192.168.0.16]> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 16:29:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net (johnson.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F72537B424 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:29:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca4c-148.ix.netcom.com [209.110.246.148]) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12747; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 10FD91143D4; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:28:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: rvasilev@uni-svishtov.bg Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <002301c0bf90$d0105120$52ad44c1@unisvishtov.bg> (rvasilev@uni-svishtov.bg) Subject: Re: can't make snmp run on squid2.4 References: <002301c0bf90$d0105120$52ad44c1@unisvishtov.bg> Message-Id: <20010407232841.10FD91143D4@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You have to build the port with SNMP support - uncomment the line # - Turn on SNMP server support #CONFIGURE_ARGS+= --enable-snmp in the port makefile. - Mike H. From: "Radoslav Vasilev" Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:30:24 +0600 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0BFC3.1A786680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0BFC3.1A786680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, I installed Squid2.4Stable1 on my FreeBSD 4.3RC machine from = ports/www Everything went smooth, I made it working, except for snmp. ---- deckland# squid -k check 2001/04/07 22:54:15| squid.conf line 1393: acl snmppublic snmp_community public 2001/04/07 22:54:15| aclParseAclLine: Invalid ACL type 'snmp_community' 2001/04/07 22:54:15| parseConfigFile: line 2176 unrecognized: 'snmp_port 3401' 2001/04/07 22:54:15| parseConfigFile: line 2190 unrecognized: = 'snmp_access allow snmppublic localhost' deckland# I thing it should work, shouldn't it? I'll apreciate any hint.10x in = advance ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0BFC3.1A786680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So, I installed Squid2.4Stable1 on my = FreeBSD=20 4.3RC machine from ports/www Everything went smooth, I made it = working,=20 except for snmp.
----
deckland# squid -k check
2001/04/07 = 22:54:15|=20 squid.conf line 1393: acl snmppublic = snmp_community
public
2001/04/07=20 22:54:15| aclParseAclLine: Invalid ACL type = 'snmp_community'
2001/04/07=20 22:54:15| parseConfigFile: line 2176 unrecognized:=20 'snmp_port
3401'
2001/04/07 22:54:15| parseConfigFile: line 2190=20 unrecognized: 'snmp_access
allow snmppublic = localhost'
deckland#
I=20 thing it should work, shouldn't it? I'll apreciate any hint.10x in=20 advance

------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0BFC3.1A786680-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 17:29:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6256E37B43E for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dchance@midsouth.rr.com) Received: from mail.midsouth.rr.com (mail.midsouth.rr.com [24.92.68.1]) by mailout1-100bt.midsouth.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f380TaL04245 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:29:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from satan ([24.165.213.219]) by mail.midsouth.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:29:44 -0500 Message-ID: <000701c0bfc3$0d4b4ae0$0200000a@satan> From: "Daryl Chance" To: Subject: Bug in MAKEDEV? (cvsup on April 6th, about midnight). Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:30:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know if this is a bug or not, bug when I did cd /dev ./MAKEDEV all root@mp3# ./MAKEDEV all 'MAKEDEV: arith: syntax errorroot:wheel" bad node: mknod i4bteld0 root@mp3# This was a build/installworld/kernel off an April 6th, 12pm cvsup. heres the header info from MAKEDEV # @(#)MAKEDEV 5.2 (Berkeley) 6/22/90 # $FreeBSD: src/etc/MAKEDEV,v 1.243.2.28 2001/03/27 22:14:53 scottl Exp $ Let me know if you need any other info. This could be a HW bug on my end, but the box has been stable for me, so I don't know. HTH, Daryl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 17:35: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from front005.cluster1.charter.net (outbound.charter.net [24.216.159.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44C537B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:34:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.148.158] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by front005.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.3) with SMTP id 1670764; Sat, 07 Apr 2001 20:34:55 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dave Uhring To: "Daryl Chance" , Subject: Re: Bug in MAKEDEV? (cvsup on April 6th, about midnight). Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:34:55 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <000701c0bfc3$0d4b4ae0$0200000a@satan> In-Reply-To: <000701c0bfc3$0d4b4ae0$0200000a@satan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040719345502.00286@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday 07 April 2001 19:30, Daryl Chance wrote: > I don't know if this is a bug or not, bug when I did > > cd /dev > ./MAKEDEV all > > root@mp3# ./MAKEDEV all > 'MAKEDEV: arith: syntax errorroot:wheel" > > bad node: mknod i4bteld0 > root@mp3# > > This was a build/installworld/kernel off an April 6th, 12pm > cvsup. heres the header info from MAKEDEV > > # @(#)MAKEDEV 5.2 (Berkeley) 6/22/90 > # $FreeBSD: src/etc/MAKEDEV,v 1.243.2.28 2001/03/27 22:14:53 scottl Exp $ > > Let me know if you need any other info. This could be a HW > bug on my end, but the box has been stable for me, so I don't > know. > > HTH, > Daryl > No problem here with that. CVSUP (cvsup5) this morning about 7:00 CDT and built world a few hours ago. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 18:19:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C8C37B42C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:19:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lamont@scriptkiddie.org) Received: from coredump.scriptkiddie.rog (coredump.scriptkiddie.org [192.168.69.2]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1FC62D01; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:19:30 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Matt Dillon Cc: Benjamin Flom , Subject: Re: Cluster Solution for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200104062317.f36NHJW48955@earth.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Matt Dillon wrote: > The quick and dirty thing to do is simply setup a DNS round robin > for the domain name used to access the servers. For example, if > you are serving a web site called www.flubber.com you would > setup the DNS for www.flubber.com to return several IP addresses > (multiple IN A records) instead of just one. There isn't much point > having several servers available if all the traffic is only going to > one of them, and the random distribution the round robin gives you > is usually sufficient to distribute the load enough that you don't > really need sophisticated load balancing software. > > That leaves just dealing with downed servers. There are several > solutions, but what it comes down to is that no matter what you do > something is going to glitch when a server goes down and the real > question is "how long" before that glitch clears. My take on the > situation is that since there is no way to avoid the glitch (even with > something like a Cisco redirector), using a DNS-based solution and > short record timeouts is the least intrusive. The site might glitch > for a few minutes when something goes down, but it will still correct > itself quickly enough that in the day-to-day running of most businesses > (e.g. anything except a brokerage site, say), nobody is going to care. > It depends on what you are doing, of course. Some sites require much > more stringent controls. you can also use LSNAT on a Cisco router to give this kind of lightweight load balancing, while not having to worry about DNS caches on machines that you don't control (and if all your machines are already sitting behind a 26xx router or something, you pay $0). of course the downside to this is that you have to worry about persistance across webservers in your application. and i'd argue pretty strenuously with you about only brokerage sites needing to have better availability than what you get with round robin DNS. you can buy a decent webserver load balacing configuration for $20k and this can easily save you from several hours of downtime a year. if you've got a $10M/year site this will probably pay for itself in the first year. > Run the numbers and determine if you care. e.g. say you have 3 servers > and a server crashes on average once every 60 days, glitching the > network for 10 minutes. i'm also a little skeptical that a typical round-robin DNS recovery time would be 10 minutes. maybe if you roll your own scripts and have them automatically take failed machines out of DNS... those scripts will need some debugging time though and you can probably expect one or two much longer downtimes as you work the bugs out... of course i completely agree that you need to weigh the alternatives and evaluate what your unique requirements are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 18:30:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC7737B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:30:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lamont@scriptkiddie.org) Received: from coredump.scriptkiddie.rog (coredump.scriptkiddie.org [192.168.69.2]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D4462D01; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:30:21 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: ntpd root exploit - advisory? In-Reply-To: <3ACEBDB0.DD6555C8@quake.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > Just wondering why there has been no security advisory on the > announce list about the ntpd root exploit and buffer overflow > allowing for syslog DoS attack... actually, its much worse than a syslog DoS attack. you can easily trash the machine using this exploit. its just difficult to remotely get a shell out of it (difficult does not == impossible, difficult merely means that nobody has made public a way to do it, and i haven't been able to figure one out...). not only that but the attack can be spoofed and is pretty much untraceable and can't be filtered (at least not perfectly). > I noticed that a few fixes have been committed to stable for > ntpd, but no advisory... Whats going on? Is it still not totally > fixed yet? its fixed in the latest 4.2-stable, i'd not waste any time upgrading. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 19: 4:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.nc.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E4837B424 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:04:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) Received: from stealth.dummynet ([24.25.3.190]) by mail5.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:04:31 -0400 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.dummynet (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3825dd07224; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:05:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:05:38 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Bjoern Fischer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nm: libc.so.4: no symbols (Huh?) Message-ID: <20010407220538.A7184@nc.rr.com> References: <20010405225355.A40150@nc.rr.com> <20010406200138.A2659@frolic.no-support.loc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010406200138.A2659@frolic.no-support.loc>; from bfischer@Techfak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 08:01:38PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bjoern Fischer: |Hello Randall, | |> I can dump symbols from other .so's. Why not anything in /usr/lib? |> |> stealth : /usr/lib # nm -Bo libc.so.4 |> /usr/libexec/elf/nm: libc.so.4: no symbols | |The libraries are stripped, they only contain symbols that are |required for dynamic linking and relocation processing: | |broccoli:~$ nm -D /usr/lib/libc.so | tail -10 |000582b0 T yp_master |00057970 T yp_match Hey, thanks. I'll use that in the future. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 19:19:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix-shells.com (handi6-212-144-244-029.arcor-ip.net [212.144.244.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC24937B43C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bjoern@loenneker.com) Received: from localhost (loenneker@localhost) by unix-shells.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f382JJn14520 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 04:19:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bjoern@loenneker.com) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 04:19:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Bjoern Loenneker X-X-Sender: To: Subject: HPT366 problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Im running 4.2-RELEASE on an Abit BP6 with a 20G IBM connected to the onboard HPT366-UDMA66 controller. During heavy disk-io I get a read-command timed out error message and now Id like to know if this is due to a know driver bug in 4.2-R or maybe a hardware problem. Please let me know if you need further information like dmesg... Thanks. Bjoern Loenneker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 20:10:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate0.sover.net (mailgate0.sover.net [209.198.87.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0218637B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:10:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dad.state.vt.us) Received: from yoyo (arc5a42.bf.sover.net [209.198.80.43]) by mailgate0.sover.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f383AY410118 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000001c0bfd9$3b96a230$1201a8c0@sanmik.com> From: "Mike Barton" To: References: <20010405111707.A35325@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org><3ACE972D.A13CF44C@babbleon.org> <15054.57979.84674.462609@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: Disklabel 101? Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:24:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are there any issues with placing swap first on the hard drive? Unless you insist on filling the drive, it seems to me that this swap arrangement would result in less stack travel. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Meyer" To: "The Babbler" Cc: "Rasputin" ; Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 5:48 AM Subject: Re: Disklabel 101? > The Babbler types: > > Rasputin wrote: > > > man disklabel etc all assume you know what those letters mean. > > > I know c is the whole partition, but that's it. > > > > c = entire disk > > a = root > > b = swap > > d = ??? I don't know; it's never used > > e+ = other partitions. > > > > BTW, does anybody know *why* BSD uses such a bizarre scheme? > > BSD does it this way because the Unix it was based on did it. This > dates back to at least v6, where I first met it. Root and swap used to > be wired into the kernel at config time, and making the first two > partitions the system had to find while booting the first two in the > table does make sense. C was required and unusuable; it included the > cylinders that were reserved for bad block handling, and the tools > that did that assumed it was there. It was also used for disk-disk > backups at times. > > At the time, computers were typically used by more than one department > at a time. This led to even more reasons to want to partition a disk. > If memory serves, partition table information used to be in the kernel > - wired into the driver for that disk - so all disks of the same type > had to have the same partition table. So it was useful to stagger the > partition sizes to provide more choices. A typical setup might have f, > g and h about the same size and covering the entire disk. e was what > was left in f after a & b were taken out. d was the usable disk beyond > a & b (or something like that). > > The only thing that's still hardwired is that root has to be on a. The > boot sequence is fubar if you don't do that, though it's been claimed > that that's not hard to fix. The rest you can do pretty much any way > you please. I.e. - you don't need swap at all, and I've got one system > that has swap on a different slice than it's root file system. > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 20:48:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8F837B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:48:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ktsin@acm.org) Received: from sr71.Singapore.Sun.COM ([129.158.72.11]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05711; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acm.org (sr-csin05-03 [129.158.72.12]) by sr71.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id LAA02696; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:48:06 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <3ACFDF76.62E58A15@acm.org> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 11:48:06 +0800 From: KT Sin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en, zh-TW, zh-CN, ko, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bjoern Loenneker Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HPT366 problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have the same problem too. Let me guess, your disk is an IBM DTLA (ATA100). I believe this is due to incompatibility between HPT366 and IBM's ATA100 disks. HPT claims that the latest BIOS solved this problem but it didn't work for me. I'm now avoiding HPT's controllers like plague. kt Bjoern Loenneker wrote: > > Hi! > > Im running 4.2-RELEASE on an Abit BP6 with a 20G IBM connected to the > onboard HPT366-UDMA66 controller. During heavy disk-io I get a > read-command timed out error message and now Id like to know if this is > due to a know driver bug in 4.2-R or maybe a hardware problem. > > Please let me know if you need further information like dmesg... > > Thanks. > > Bjoern Loenneker > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 20:52:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C920637B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:51:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f383qAU05612 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 13:52:10 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: sti driver [EasyIO-4] doesn't work under 4.3-RC Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 13:53:57 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I can say with some certainty that the sti driver in 4.3-RC doesn't work. It for the Stallion EasyIO-4/8 boards. It amy have worked under earlier versions of the ststem, but it soesn't work under this one. It _almost_ works. It can signal the modem, signalling DTR, but apart from that there is no response. I installed and recompiled using the "latest" sources from ftp.stallion.com but to no avail. Everything has been checked of a physical nature. Cables etc. stl0 at port 0x2a0 irq 10 on isa0 stl0: EasyIO (driver version 2.0.0a) unit=0 nrpanels=1 nrports=4 stl0: driver is using old-style compatability shims So. Is this something that someone in development can look at, or is it a Stallion.com problem? cheers Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 21:31:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493AE37B43F for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:31:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f384VYq05113; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:31:34 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Robert Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: sti driver [EasyIO-4] doesn't work under 4.3-RC Message-ID: <20010407213134.E15938@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from robert@chalmers.com.au on Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 01:53:57PM +1000 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Robert [010407 20:52] wrote: > > > I can say with some certainty that the sti driver in 4.3-RC doesn't work. It > for the Stallion EasyIO-4/8 boards. It amy have worked under earlier > versions of the ststem, but it soesn't work under this one. > It _almost_ works. It can signal the modem, signalling DTR, but apart from > that there is no response. I installed and recompiled using the "latest" > sources from ftp.stallion.com but to no avail. Everything has been checked > of a physical nature. Cables etc. > > stl0 at port 0x2a0 irq 10 on isa0 > stl0: EasyIO (driver version 2.0.0a) unit=0 nrpanels=1 nrports=4 > stl0: driver is using old-style compatability shims > > > So. Is this something that someone in development can look at, or is it a > Stallion.com problem? It seems like it's a stallion.com problem unless they want to send one of the developers the kit and docs (without NDA) to write a driver. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 22: 0:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09E7D37B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 4938 invoked by uid 100); 8 Apr 2001 05:00:27 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15055.61547.661230.147704@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:00:27 -0500 To: "Mike Barton" Cc: Subject: Re: Disklabel 101? In-Reply-To: <000001c0bfd9$3b96a230$1201a8c0@sanmik.com> References: <20010405111707.A35325@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <3ACE972D.A13CF44C@babbleon.org> <15054.57979.84674.462609@guru.mired.org> <000001c0bfd9$3b96a230$1201a8c0@sanmik.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Barton types: > Are there any issues with placing swap first on the hard drive? Unless you > insist on filling the drive, it seems to me that this swap arrangement would > result in less stack travel. Not that I know of. In fact, I'm pretty sure that one of my systems has root on s2, with swap on s1, which is earlier on the hard disk. The idea behind root being first was similar, with root having the most used files on it. For instance, every time you open a file with an absolute path - say, by finding it on your command search path - you start with the root directory. Then again - the geometry of modern diskdrives is seriously non-intuitive. Final note - John Loverso pointed out to me that the current kernel does indeed expect c to be the entire slice. At the very least, it has to have the partition table in it. It's not clear what will fail if you make it cover the first part of the disk, but not the entire disk. I think I'm going to add playing with this to my list of things to do.... ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Meyer" > To: "The Babbler" > Cc: "Rasputin" ; > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 5:48 AM > Subject: Re: Disklabel 101? > > > > The Babbler types: > > > Rasputin wrote: > > > > man disklabel etc all assume you know what those letters mean. > > > > I know c is the whole partition, but that's it. > > > > > > c = entire disk > > > a = root > > > b = swap > > > d = ??? I don't know; it's never used > > > e+ = other partitions. > > > > > > BTW, does anybody know *why* BSD uses such a bizarre scheme? > > > > BSD does it this way because the Unix it was based on did it. This > > dates back to at least v6, where I first met it. Root and swap used to > > be wired into the kernel at config time, and making the first two > > partitions the system had to find while booting the first two in the > > table does make sense. C was required and unusuable; it included the > > cylinders that were reserved for bad block handling, and the tools > > that did that assumed it was there. It was also used for disk-disk > > backups at times. > > > > At the time, computers were typically used by more than one department > > at a time. This led to even more reasons to want to partition a disk. > > If memory serves, partition table information used to be in the kernel > > - wired into the driver for that disk - so all disks of the same type > > had to have the same partition table. So it was useful to stagger the > > partition sizes to provide more choices. A typical setup might have f, > > g and h about the same size and covering the entire disk. e was what > > was left in f after a & b were taken out. d was the usable disk beyond > > a & b (or something like that). > > > > The only thing that's still hardwired is that root has to be on a. The > > boot sequence is fubar if you don't do that, though it's been claimed > > that that's not hard to fix. The rest you can do pretty much any way > > you please. I.e. - you don't need swap at all, and I've got one system > > that has swap on a different slice than it's root file system. > > > > > -- > > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more > information. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 22:34:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thor.darkagetech.com (thor.darkagetech.com [206.163.218.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D30D37B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:34:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skaven@darkagetech.com) Received: from loki (loki.darkagetech.com [206.163.218.14]) by thor.darkagetech.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C6D14B02 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003701c0bfed$c7558980$0edaa3ce@darkagetech.com> From: "Sean M Hollingsworth" To: Subject: Unable to start X as any user other than root Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:35:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running FreeBSD 4.3-RC and XFree86-4.0.3 from the ports collection. If I start X as root, everything is fine. If I start X as any other user, I get this error message: Fatal server error: Cannot open log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log" /var/log/XFree86.0.log has perms 0644. Are these the correct perms? I looked at the list archives for the last week or so and didn't see anything on this, but if this has been discussed already and I overlooked it, pointing me to the right thread would be greatly appreciated. Sean. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 22:41:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CEC37B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (root@ns1.unixathome.org [192.168.0.20]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f385fMe57098; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 17:41:23 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200104080541.f385fMe57098@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: "Sean M Hollingsworth" Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 01:41:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Unable to start X as any user other than root Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <003701c0bfed$c7558980$0edaa3ce@darkagetech.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Apr 2001, at 22:35, Sean M Hollingsworth wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 4.3-RC and XFree86-4.0.3 from the ports collection. If > I start X as root, everything is fine. If I start X as any other user, I > get this error message: > > Fatal server error: > Cannot open log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log" > > /var/log/XFree86.0.log has perms 0644. Are these the correct perms? mine are: $ ls -l /var/log/XFree86.0.log -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 20966 Mar 28 14:49 /var/log/XFree86.0.log -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 22:53: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from patan.sun.com (patan.Sun.COM [192.18.98.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6CC37B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ktsin@acm.org) Received: from sr71.Singapore.Sun.COM ([129.158.72.11]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07187; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acm.org (sr-csin05-03 [129.158.72.12]) by sr71.Singapore.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id NAA09267; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 13:52:54 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <3ACFFCB6.99A70875@acm.org> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 13:52:54 +0800 From: KT Sin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en, zh-TW, zh-CN, ko, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean M Hollingsworth Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unable to start X as any user other than root References: <003701c0bfed$c7558980$0edaa3ce@darkagetech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Make sure that you have x11/wrapper installed. You can build it from the ports collection. kt Sean M Hollingsworth wrote: > > I'm running FreeBSD 4.3-RC and XFree86-4.0.3 from the ports collection. If > I start X as root, everything is fine. If I start X as any other user, I > get this error message: > > Fatal server error: > Cannot open log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log" > > /var/log/XFree86.0.log has perms 0644. Are these the correct perms? > > I looked at the list archives for the last week or so and didn't see > anything on this, but if this has been discussed already and I overlooked > it, pointing me to the right thread would be greatly appreciated. > > Sean. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 22:59:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id 4E59A37B422; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:59:38 -0700 From: David O'Brien To: "Brian D. Woodruff" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC Message-ID: <20010407225938.A44159@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010404211832.020c6b60@pop3.norton.antivirus>; from wood@soundconcept.net on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:32:39PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:32:39PM -0500, Brian D. Woodruff wrote: > I quickly learned that RC is for Release Candidate, which would inticate to > me that it's somewhere between CURRENT and RELEASE, but nowhere near STABLE!! Huh? RC means it could easily be _the_ RELEASE. In FreeBSD RC is more stable than "stable" as the code is frozen. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 7 23:53: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (18.gibs5.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.184.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D85037B424 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Received: from shazam (shazam [192.168.5.3]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f386q2q17890 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 06:52:03 GMT (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:55:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Durham X-Sender: durham@shazam.int To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Page fault with adaptec scsi pccard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have more to report since the original posting, which was.. On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Jim Durham wrote: > I am trying an Adaptec scsi controller (AIC6360) with > 4.3RC2. > > It does not work correctly with the out of the box pccard.conf. > > However, more importantly, pulling the card has twice produced: > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address =0x18 > fault code = supervisor write, page not present > instrutction pointer = 0x8:0xc019fed9 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xc0384b48 > frame pointer = 0x10:0xc0384b50 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor elflags = interrupt enablesd, resume IOPL = 0 > current process = Idle > interrupt mask = net tty bio cam > trap number = 12 > panic: page fault > > syncing disks... 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 > giving up on 8 buffers > Uptime 4m49s > > OK, I may have solved the problem with the D-Link card. I was also playing with an Adaptec Slim Scsi card and, in the course of experimenting, I changed the memory allocation statement in pccard.conf so that it allocated 64K right above my video card at 0xc0000. When I plugged the D-link back in, I happened to notice that it came up with a different MAC address than it had before. I noticed this because the MAC address it had been using started with "1f", which I thought at the time was unusual. Now, the MAC address reported when the card is inserted starts with 00, which is what I've always seen with MAC addresses. I think the memory was getting munged. Now, for the Adaptec... -Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message