From owner-freebsd-www Sun Sep 23 15: 6: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1085C37B42A; Sun, 23 Sep 2001 15:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8NM5wT55330; Sun, 23 Sep 2001 15:05:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109232205.f8NM5wT55330@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG, wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org not getting rebuilt? In-Reply-To: <20010923001612.A487@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <200109212232.f8LMWR032348@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010923001612.A487@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Comments: In-reply-to Wolfram Schneider message dated "Sun, 23 Sep 2001 00:16:12 +0200." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1583188420P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 15:05:58 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1583188420P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > for unknown reasons, the `cvs update' failed with exit status 1 > and the site was not build. > > I removed the old sources and did a fresh cvs checkout. The > site should now build again without problems. Thanks for looking into this Wolfram! Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1583188420P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7rlzG2MoxcVugUsMRAqnlAKDnyhlrt9oKEOkk9RdwdJarPgIYgQCfQAEx Cw4c4fwwxIlNYIZkaYrRzVQ= =09hD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1583188420P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Sun Sep 23 15: 6:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CAA37B438; Sun, 23 Sep 2001 15:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8NM6ns12781; Mon, 24 Sep 2001 00:06:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 00:06:49 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Wolfram Schneider , freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG, wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org not getting rebuilt? Message-ID: <20010924000649.A12767@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200109212232.f8LMWR032348@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010923001612.A487@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <200109232205.f8NM5wT55330@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200109232205.f8NM5wT55330@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 03:05:58PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 03:05:58PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > for unknown reasons, the `cvs update' failed with exit status 1 > > and the site was not build. > > > > I removed the old sources and did a fresh cvs checkout. The > > site should now build again without problems. > > Thanks for looking into this Wolfram! Yes, much appreciated! -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Mon Sep 24 15:17:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr (postfix2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8B837B416; Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (dijon-36-76.dial.proxad.net [212.27.36.76]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06E8173; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:17:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stephane@localhost) by sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (8.11.6/8.11.1) id f8OLorv16577; Mon, 24 Sep 2001 23:50:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stephane) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 23:50:52 +0200 From: Stephane Legrand To: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Branching www/ for XML development Message-ID: <20010924235051.D448@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> Reply-To: Stephane.Legrand@bigfoot.com References: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 12:15:17AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 12:15:17AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm thinking about branching www/ to do some XML development work. > > Lately I've been looking at XML and XSLT as an alternative to the > existing approach we use of turning HTML files with additional SGML > content in to the standard HTML files we serve on the web. We do this > using tools like sgmlnorm, and some Perl scripts here and there. > ... Hello, Would this new approach with XML/XSLT imply major syntax modifications in every www files ? As i'm participating in the french translation of these files, i'm a bit frightened by a such perspective because it would be necessary to modify every existing translation. Stephane Legrand. -- Je recherche un emploi dans le domaine de l'informatique : PHP, Perl, SQL, FreeBSD, Linux, Internet... C.V. : http://stephleg.free.fr/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Mon Sep 24 15:17:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from postfix2-1.free.fr (postfix2-1.free.fr [213.228.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9EE37B414; Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (dijon-36-76.dial.proxad.net [212.27.36.76]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D911C6; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:17:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stephane@localhost) by sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (8.11.6/8.11.1) id f8OM7nw16623; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:07:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stephane) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:07:49 +0200 From: Stephane Legrand To: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: About the new HTML files in www/en/releases/4.4R/ Message-ID: <20010925000748.E448@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> Reply-To: Stephane.Legrand@bigfoot.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Some remarks about these new files : - the version numbers are different from the usual ones. For instance, in errata.html, it is : "$FreeBSD: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata/article.sgml,v 1.1.2.27 2001/09/23 22:57:48 bmah Exp $" instead of something like "$FreeBSD: www/en/releases/4.4R/errata.html,v 1.2 2001/09/23 22:57:48 bmah Exp $" Why ?? - the fact that the HTML files are no more generated makes difficult any design changes. For instance, i can't add a navigation bar in these pages without directly modifying the files. With SGML, the &header; entity allows this without any change in the original file. Any chance to revert to SGML format ? Stephane Legrand. -- Je recherche un emploi dans le domaine de l'informatique : PHP, Perl, SQL, FreeBSD, Linux, Internet... C.V. : http://stephleg.free.fr/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Mon Sep 24 15:33:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1964137B429; Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8OMXC093762; Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109242233.f8OMXC093762@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Stephane.Legrand@bigfoot.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About the new HTML files in www/en/releases/4.4R/ In-Reply-To: <20010925000748.E448@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> References: <20010925000748.E448@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> Comments: In-reply-to Stephane Legrand message dated "Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:07:49 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1637110816P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:33:12 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1637110816P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Stephane Legrand wrote: > Some remarks about these new files : > > - the version numbers are different from the usual ones. > For instance, in errata.html, it is : > > "$FreeBSD: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata/article.sgml,v 1.1.2.27 > 2001/09/23 22:57:48 bmah Exp $" > > instead of something like > > "$FreeBSD: www/en/releases/4.4R/errata.html,v 1.2 > 2001/09/23 22:57:48 bmah Exp $" > > Why ?? I turned off keyword substitution for these files in CVS. The html files in www/en/ releases/4.4R/ were generated from SGML files, and I thought it best to leave the ID strings intact so that people can see where the content came from (and what revision). Otherwise this information gets spammed with the date the generated HTML file was updated in the repository. Although the dates will bear a strong resemblance, the version numbers don't, and I bet I'd get a bunch of questions as to why the version numbers on the Web site don't match those in the RELNOTESng snapshots. > - the fact that the HTML files are no more generated makes difficult > any design changes. For instance, i can't add a navigation bar in > these pages without directly modifying the files. With SGML, the > &header; entity allows this without any change in the original > file. Any chance to revert to SGML format ? I found the old method (drop ASCII text in the middle of SGML) to be extremely inconvenient for updating the errata. I'm open to alternatives that don't make me do this. My goal for the release documents was to provide, verbatim, the same files that live in the distribution, in order to minimize confusion when people happen to see copies of the same document coming from multiple sources. 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Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Tue Sep 25 3:22:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D3237B406; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 03:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8PA5p831812; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:05:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:05:51 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Stephane Legrand Cc: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Branching www/ for XML development Message-ID: <20010925110551.A31744@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010924235051.D448@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010924235051.D448@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo>; from Stephane.Legrand@bigfoot.com on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:50:52PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:50:52PM +0200, Stephane Legrand wrote: > Would this new approach with XML/XSLT imply major syntax modifications > in every www files ? As i'm participating in the french translation > of these files, i'm a bit frightened by a such perspective because > it would be necessary to modify every existing translation. Yes and no :-) There will be some translation work to be done in the new framework (however we do it) because there will be static text in the 'templates' that will need to be translated. However, the content of each page will be the same, and can pretty much be cut and pasted in to the new files. In this context, the "content" is pretty much everything between the "&header;" and "&footer;" lines. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuwVv8ACgkQk6gHZCw343WcCACfUnr7Wu+2N8LR5GWrL/0FMeX8 +foAn2NFR3wws6Euw1BT4MLe6pxfc5G2 =+cio -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Tue Sep 25 9:58:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A82237B445; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8PGWeu35858; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:32:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:32:40 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Branching www/ for XML development Message-ID: <20010925173240.F31744@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010922113521.W1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TU+u6i6jrDPzmlWF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010922113521.W1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 11:35:21AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --TU+u6i6jrDPzmlWF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 22, 2001 at 11:35:21AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 12:15:17AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > I'm thinking about branching www/ to do some XML development work. >=20 > Another alternative that occured to me earlier today. Don't branch, but > do the work in directories that parallel the doc/ locale directories. Which people seem to think is a terrible idea, so we'll branch. Here are some thoughts and jottings on what we can do with the next generat= ion web site. Separation of content and formatting ------------------------------------ Where possible, I'd like the content that people author to be separated from the formatting. We should provide; * A standard template for people to write new pages * Stylesheets, and classes, for specific presentation effects * No author should need to write "" in their document, or use=20 other formatting tricks like that. We either use CSS, or, if browser support is poor, we use CSS in the documents, and let the XSL styleshee= ts embed the browser specific formatting as necessary * A library of reusable content that can be dropped in to the page * Facilities to help ensure that internal links are correct Page layout ----------- We should adopt a standard layout for each page wherever possible. In some places this won't be immediately possible -- the output from some CGI scrip= ts, the results of doing DocBook -> HTML conversion, and so on. But we should = try to do so for all static and semi-static content. Definition: static content is a page that doesn't change each time it is converted to HTML. semi-static content is a page that does change when it is converted, but only because it syndicates content from other pages. It does not change as a result of a user's choice (i.e., it's not CGI). A rough layout sees the page divided in to 5 areas: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | Header | | | | | | | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | | +------------+ +------------------------------------+ +------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | Left nav | | | | Right nav | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Body | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +------------+ +------------------------------------+ +------------+ | | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | Footer | | | | | | | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Probable content Header: Static across all pages. Contains the logo, the drop down to select languages/mirrors Left nav: Provides the top level "you are here" indicator, the search box, and perhaps some key links that we want to appear on every page, irrespective of the other content of the page -- perhaps links to the FAQ and Handbook, maybe current release information, and so on. Content authors do not get to change this content. Body: The body copy of the page. Right nav: Links to information that is pertinent to the content of the body. Typically: * Links to related pages on the FreeBSD web site * Links to related pages on other web sites * Content syndicated from other portions of the site (e.g., news headlines). We should provide standard ways for authors to include this content, particularly content from other portions of the FreeBSD site. Footer: Contact details, modification time, version number, a "report a problem about this page" link, copyright notice. Can not be modified by the content authors. Page description language ------------------------- To enforce the style guidelines, don't let authors write a complete HTML page. Instead, give them a cut-down markup language suitable for what they need to do, allowing us to enforce the look and feel. My experiments so far have used the following schema: Title goes here
$FreeBSD$ Press Releases Newsletter Press articles Status reports DaemonNews =20 The title =20 Comments? We probably need some additional classes. "security-advisories", that sort of thing. Any suggestions? I also thought we might want to and align=3D"right= ", if we wanted to let authors choose which of the left/right nav bar the content goes in. But I think for consistency it might be better to just insist on sidebars only appearing on the right. Building the web site --------------------- The majority of files on the web site will be XML, marked up in the schema outlined above (or whatever schema we eventually decide on). For those fil= es, we will need a stylesheet that can convert them to XHTML. However, some of the files will need an intermediate step first. For examp= le, the current www/en/news/news.xml is a completely different schema. We will need two stylesheets; one to convert news.xml in to the schema outli= ned above, and then the 'global' stylesheet that can convert s in to HTML. This suggests to me that naming everything with .xml extension might not be the best way to do it. If everything has a .xml extension, irrespective of its schema, then we can't write Makefiles that use SUFFIX rules to=20 automatically convert documents to HTML. For example, consider the top level index file (the site's home page), which we'll call www/en/index.xml. The make(1) rule for this would be something like index.html: index.xml xsltproc stylesheet.xsl index.xml > index.html Which we could turn in to a generic XML -> HTML suffix rule easily. However, this breaks down when you need to pre-process the files through multiple stylesheets. To use the news example, where news.xml has to be pre-processed, the Makefile fragment looks something like this: # news-page.xsl is the stylesheet that converts news.xml in to the # schema. news.html: news-page.xsl news.xml xsltproc news-page.xsl news.xml | \ xsltproc stylesheet.xsl - > news.html Perhaps, instead, we should say that pages have a .page suffix, and that generic XML data has the .xml suffix. Further, we mandate that for every foo.xml there must also be a foo.xsl that can convert foo.xml in to foo.pag= e. The news example above then becomes news.html: news.page xsltproc stylesheet.xsl news.page > news.html news.page: news.xsl news.xml xsltproc news.xsl news.xml > news.page This can easily be encapsulated in make's SUFFIX rules SUFFIXES: .xml .page .html .html.page: xsltproc stylesheet.xsl ${.IMPSRC} > ${.TARGET} .page.xml: xsltproc ${.IMPSRC:R}.xsl ${.IMPSRC} > ${.TARGET} Of course, this assumes that we can go from .xml to .page in one go, without needing any more intermediate translations. I think that's probably the ca= se, but if you can think of a counter example then please say so. There will still be a few oddities. For example, news.rdf is generated from news-rdf.xsl and news.xml, but I think they'll be so rare that we can speci= al case them in the Makefiles as necessary. Dependencies are going to be another interesting challenge. The HTML output file does not (necessarily) only depend on the input .page file. For examp= le, anything that has a=20 in it has a dependency on en/news/news.xml. I think this means: (a) We will need a "make depend" step in the build process. (b) We will need to write a tool that can process a .page file, chase=20 down all its dependencies, and write that out in a format that make(= 1) can understand. Link checking ------------- For internal links, I'm thinking about introducing a new element. It would have all the same attributes and functionality as the existing element in HTML. But, if the content was local, and the had no content, the stylesheet would parse the target document to extract its titl= e. Similar to 's processing expectations for DocBook. Comments? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --TU+u6i6jrDPzmlWF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjuwsacACgkQk6gHZCw343WgtQCdFPR/NvViBx1w4f9RwAiq//1V tWkAn2122vKw6xGtDZrZHW2Rp+ioni1t =PhLt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TU+u6i6jrDPzmlWF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Tue Sep 25 18:48: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B67B37B419; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 18:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:290:27ff:fe98:c0b7]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF2324D22; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:48:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:2d0:b7ff:fea0:d487]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AEAD1406; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:47:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:47:58 +0900 Message-ID: <7m1ykud8oh.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Branching www/ for XML development In-Reply-To: <20010925173240.F31744@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010922113521.W1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010925173240.F31744@clan.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 4) (Artificial Intelligence) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:58:17 +0000 (UTC), nik wrote: > Separation of content and formatting > ------------------------------------ > > Where possible, I'd like the content that people author to be separated from > the formatting. We should provide; > > * A standard template for people to write new pages > * Stylesheets, and classes, for specific presentation effects > * No author should need to write "" in their document, or use > other formatting tricks like that. We either use CSS, or, if browser > support is poor, we use CSS in the documents, and let the XSL stylesheets > embed the browser specific formatting as necessary > * A library of reusable content that can be dropped in to the page > * Facilities to help ensure that internal links are correct Totally agreed in concept. > Page layout > ----------- Is this toppage layout, or standard template for each pages? If this is standard template, I think we should talk about whether we need left/right navigation. IMHO these navigations narrow body area and reduce readability of contents. > Page description language > ------------------------- > > To enforce the style guidelines, don't let authors write a complete HTML > page. Instead, give them a cut-down markup language suitable for what they > need to do, allowing us to enforce the look and feel. Do you think we can enforce our style guidelines to writers? Defining new schema may be overkill. My suggestion is using XHTML as base schema and adding extentions for our local use. # Of course, we can use XSLT to translate XHTML to XHTML. > Building the web site > --------------------- ... > This suggests to me that naming everything with .xml extension might not be > the best way to do it. If everything has a .xml extension, irrespective of > its schema, then we can't write Makefiles that use SUFFIX rules to > automatically convert documents to HTML. Yes, we should use (or create) proper filename suffix to express its schema. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Tue Sep 25 19: 1:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from postfix1-2.free.fr (postfix1-2.free.fr [213.228.0.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6164037B40C; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (dijon-36-146.dial.proxad.net [212.27.36.146]) by postfix1-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625E9AB0D9; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 04:01:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stephane@localhost) by sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (8.11.6/8.11.1) id f8Q0vqU02599; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 02:57:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stephane) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 02:57:52 +0200 From: Stephane Legrand To: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Branching www/ for XML development Message-ID: <20010926025752.A513@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> Reply-To: Stephane.Legrand@bigfoot.com References: <20010921001517.N1162@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20010924235051.D448@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> <20010925110551.A31744@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010925110551.A31744@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:05:51AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:05:51AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:50:52PM +0200, Stephane Legrand wrote: > > Would this new approach with XML/XSLT imply major syntax modifications > > in every www files ? > > ... > > Yes and no :-) > ... > However, the content of each page will be the same, and can pretty much > be cut and pasted in to the new files. > > In this context, the "content" is pretty much everything between the > "&header;" and "&footer;" lines. Ok. It reassures me :) Stephane Legrand. -- Je recherche un emploi dans le domaine de l'informatique : PHP, Perl, SQL, FreeBSD, Linux, Internet... C.V. : http://stephleg.free.fr/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Tue Sep 25 19: 1:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from postfix1-2.free.fr (postfix1-2.free.fr [213.228.0.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8A637B40B; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (dijon-36-146.dial.proxad.net [212.27.36.146]) by postfix1-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A4DAB11C; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 04:01:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stephane@localhost) by sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (8.11.6/8.11.1) id f8Q1dCL03136; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 03:39:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stephane) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 03:39:12 +0200 From: Stephane Legrand To: doc@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About the new HTML files in www/en/releases/4.4R/ Message-ID: <20010926033911.B513@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> Reply-To: Stephane.Legrand@bigfoot.com References: <20010925000748.E448@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> <200109242233.f8OMXC093762@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200109242233.f8OMXC093762@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 03:33:12PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 03:33:12PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Stephane Legrand wrote: > > > Some remarks about these new files : > > > > - the version numbers are different from the usual ones. > > For instance, in errata.html, it is : > > > > "$FreeBSD: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata/article.sgml,v 1.1.2.27 > > 2001/09/23 22:57:48 bmah Exp $" > > > > instead of something like > > > > "$FreeBSD: www/en/releases/4.4R/errata.html,v 1.2 > > 2001/09/23 22:57:48 bmah Exp $" > > > > Why ?? > > I turned off keyword substitution for these files in CVS. The html > files in www/en/ releases/4.4R/ were generated from SGML files, and I > thought it best to leave the ID strings intact so that people can see > where the content came from (and what revision). Otherwise this > information gets spammed with the date the generated HTML file was > updated in the repository. Although the dates will bear a strong > resemblance, the version numbers don't, and I bet I'd get a bunch of > questions as to why the version numbers on the Web site don't match > those in the RELNOTESng snapshots. Let me clarify why i asked this question. I'm participating to the french translation of the www pages and it's extremely useful to have a version number for each files because you can then easily track the translations out of sync. If you can assure me that this current version number will be modified each time the HTML file is modified (no matter if article.sgml was modified or not), then that's perfectly fine because i can use this version number as i already use the ones in the SGML files. But if it's not true, it would be great if for instance an other version number could be added to reflect each changes in the HTML file. Or may be you could transform this current line in a simple comment to keep inform the reader that the content was generated from article.sgml with its version and let the CVS do its job to have a more usual version number ? I hope you can understand my point of view despite my english :-) > > > - the fact that the HTML files are no more generated makes difficult > > any design changes. For instance, i can't add a navigation bar in > > these pages without directly modifying the files. With SGML, the > > &header; entity allows this without any change in the original > > file. Any chance to revert to SGML format ? > > I found the old method (drop ASCII text in the middle of SGML) to be > extremely inconvenient for updating the errata. I'm open to > alternatives that don't make me do this. Could it be possible to have something like (an example with errata) : %includes; ]> &header; ... current HTML content without any change ... &footer; ie basically embed the HTML body in a standard SGML "skeleton". So, the current HTML content is preserved but the SGML entities are preserved too. Is it easily feasible ? > My goal for the release documents was to provide, verbatim, the same > files that live in the distribution, in order to minimize confusion when > people happen to see copies of the same document coming from multiple > sources. My point is certainly not to criticize these new HTML files :) What i only want is to preserve some useful (at least for me) features of the SGML files. Stephane Legrand. -- Je recherche un emploi dans le domaine de l'informatique : PHP, Perl, SQL, FreeBSD, Linux, Internet... 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Thu Sep 27 14:37: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B9837B401; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8RLafY56104; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:36:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109272136.f8RLafY56104@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Stephane.Legrand@bigfoot.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About the new HTML files in www/en/releases/4.4R/ In-Reply-To: <20010926033911.B513@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> References: <20010925000748.E448@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> <200109242233.f8OMXC093762@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> <20010926033911.B513@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> Comments: In-reply-to Stephane Legrand message dated "Wed, 26 Sep 2001 03:39:12 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-972057479P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:36:41 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-972057479P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Stephane Legrand wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 03:33:12PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Let me clarify why i asked this question. I'm participating to the > french translation of the www pages and it's extremely useful to > have a version number for each files because you can then easily > track the translations out of sync. If you can assure me that this > current version number will be modified each time the HTML file is > modified (no matter if article.sgml was modified or not), then > that's perfectly fine because i can use this version number as i > already use the ones in the SGML files. OK. I can say with some confidence that the only time that I will go to modify (for example) errata.html is if the article.sgml file that generated it was modified. Since the version number in the page gets changed every time this happens, then you should be able to use this. > I hope you can understand my point of view despite my english :-) Your English is most excellent and much better than my French (despite having taken four years of French in high school). > > > - the fact that the HTML files are no more generated makes difficult > > > any design changes. For instance, i can't add a navigation bar in > > > these pages without directly modifying the files. With SGML, the > > > &header; entity allows this without any change in the original > > > file. Any chance to revert to SGML format ? > > > > I found the old method (drop ASCII text in the middle of SGML) to be > > extremely inconvenient for updating the errata. I'm open to > > alternatives that don't make me do this. > > Could it be possible to have something like (an example with errata) : > > > 2001/09/04 20:51:42 bmah Exp $"> > > %includes; > ]> > > > > &header; > ... > current HTML content without any change > ... > &footer; > > > > ie basically embed the HTML body in a standard SGML "skeleton". > So, the current HTML content is preserved but the SGML entities > are preserved too. > > Is it easily feasible ? Hmmm...I don't know. I'd still like to avoid any modifications to the HTML at all (i.e. headers, footers, etc.) with respect to what a user might find in a RELEASE or a snapshot. But perhaps I'm being lazy, and I freely admit that I am not the best qualified person when it comes to Web site design, so other opinions are welcome (especially, BTW, from those participating in the XML thread on -doc@). Here's another thought. It makes you do a little more work but you do gain something in the end. Instead of translating the HTML renderings of the errata, release notes, etc., what about translating the SGML that produced them? We can put these in src/release/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1 in a parallel structure with the rest of the release documentation. This gets you a set of release documentation that can be printed, converted to HTML, or whatever else. The HTML can be used (either directly or indirectly) in the Web site. I can help with setting up the infrastructure for this. It's related, but not identical, to the point we're discussing about the formatting. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-972057479P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7s5vp2MoxcVugUsMRAu3IAKCoP8uyMgo/OZkfd1/AYRtjFXtPtwCaAsh3 3Ep1QbobM2lWid2RNJxoEjo= =MFda -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-972057479P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-www" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-www Fri Sep 28 11:33:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com [24.176.204.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDF737B408; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8SIXKH71707; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:33:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109281833.f8SIXKH71707@c527597-a.cstvl1.sfba.home.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Build of the webserver failed In-Reply-To: <200109281824.f8SIOGs75379@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200109281824.f8SIOGs75379@freefall.freebsd.org> Comments: In-reply-to message dated "Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:24:16 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-694107385P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:33:19 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-694107385P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, www@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > ===> relnotes > ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1 > ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes > ===> relnotes/CURRENT/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha > /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -V nochunks -c /c/ww > w/build/www/en/relnotes/../../../doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /c > /www/build/www/en/relnotes/../../../doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/shar > e/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog > -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO > 8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/b > uild/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog > -d /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../share/sg > ml/default.dsl -t sgml /c/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alp > ha/article.sgml > article.html || (rm -f article.html && false) > /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/relnotes/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/ > ../common/../common/new.sgml:589:17:E: general entity "man.vlan.4" not define > d and no default entity D'oh. Forgot to commit that. Fixed. Waitasec. It was trying to build the release notes from CURRENT?!? When'd that get turned on? 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