From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jan 6 14:56:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165E537B430 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 14:56:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from potentialtech.com (dhcp065-024-023-038.columbus.rr.com [65.24.23.38]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g06MpQg29601; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:51:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C38D6C8.4050605@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 17:59:20 -0500 From: Bill Moran Organization: Potential Technology User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010914 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Kaven, Oliver" Cc: cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us, cdillon@inter-linc.net, tlambert2@mindspring.com, advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Your freebsd-advocacy discussion References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you for the clarification. I think, however, that you missed the point of my original post. That point was that FreeBSD often tends to outperform Linux under similar conditions, and I was curious to see if it would do so in the SMB arena. -Bill Kaven, Oliver wrote: > Gentlemen: > > I just recently stumbled across a discussion thread on freebsd-advocacy > relating to one of PC Magazine's past articles. I know that this thread > is fairly old, but would like to offer some insight into the testing > methodology if still needed. > > Here are some answers to the basic questions in the thread: > > Benchmark used: Netbench 7.0.2 > Client OS used : Win2K with most recent service pack at the time (SP2) > Client RAM used: RAM was a mixture of 256 and 512 MB > > I would like to stress that we did use Netbench as a performance > measurement tool. Netbench's number of clients does not relate to actual > users. One Netbench client generates traffic that corresponds to many > more clients in "real-life". > > - - - - - - - - - - > Concepts about NetBench's results > Here's a summary of some of the NetBench concepts you may want to keep > in mind as you look at your results: > > * NetBench's standard test suites are stress tests. > * Because one NetBench client generally stresses the server as > much as MANY actual users do, you can run test suites with a > relatively small number of clients and still get an accurate > measure of your server's performance. > * To get a valid measure of your server's performance, make > sure you reach a knee in the NetBench results curve. The > knee indicates that throughput is no longer increasing. (You > can check the results curve by plotting the server's total > throughput against the number of active clients.) > > Adding clients increases the total throughput ... up to a point. When > the overhead of managing the additional clients outweighs the advantage > of having more clients, throughput starts decreasing, causing a knee to > appear in the results curve. With NetBench you may see one of three > types of results curves: > > * A curve with a single knee that shows a very steep drop in > throughput as you add clients. > * A curve with a single knee that shows a gradual, sloping > drop in throughput as you add clients. > * A curve with a double knee. In this type of curve, the > throughput reaches its knee and then levels out for a while, > just as a plateau does, as you continue to add clients. > After you've added a certain number of clients, the > throughput drops off sharply. This type of curve often > indicates physical bottlenecks that affect the server's > performance. > > - - - - - - - - - - > > > I hope this helped a little and please, feel free to contact me directly > if you have any more questions. And yes, we do hope to include FreeBSD > into our testing in the future. Unfortunately , time restrictions often > force us to limit our testing to the platforms that relate most to our > readers environments and interests. > > > Have a healthy and Happy New Year! > > Oliver Kaven > ------------------------------------------------------- > Oliver Kaven > Project Leader, Network Infrastructure > PC Magazine Labs > 212-503-5283 > oliver_kaven@ziffdavis.com > ---------- > PC Magazine > 28 E 28th Street, 11th Floor > New York, NY 10016-7930 > 212-503-5100 > ---------- > > > > -- Bill Moran Potential Technology http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jan 10 13:14:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from usenix.org (voyager.usenix.org [131.106.3.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DB637B405 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [131.106.3.65] ([131.106.3.65]) by usenix.org (Switch-2.1.3/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id g0ALERo13587 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:14:27 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: ann@mail.usenix.org (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:14:27 -0800 To: advocacy@freebsd.org From: Ann Tsai Subject: BSDCon 2002 - Register by Jan 21 & SAVE! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Below is a conference announcement for the USENIX BSDCon 2002. Please let me know if you have a more appropriate method for submitting this information. Thank you for your assistance! Best Regards, Ann Tsai Marketing Coordinator Usenix Association 510-528-8649 x31 ann@usenix.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Register by January 21, 2002 and SAVE! http://www.usenix.org/events/bsdcon02 BSDCon 2002 February 11-14, 2002 Cathedral Hill Hotel - San Francisco, California, USA Join the growing BSD community as we meet to explore the latest design and implementation of BSD-based systems software at BSDCon. This years program features keynote presentations by John Mashey of SenseiPartners and Brett Halle of Apple Computer, as well as a unique collection of refereed papers and invited talks covering a variety of topics, including: - MacOS X and Darwin - Multiprocessing work for FreeBSD - NetBSD work on the AMD x86-64 - Packet filtering and virtual private networks - the continuing fight against spam - vulnerabilities of wireless networks - running a company based on open source software In addition to exceptional content, BSDCon also features four professional-level, educational tutorials. Practical and immediately useful, these courses are an excellent way to improve the depth of your knowledge about BSD and to stay current with the technology. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jan 11 3:56:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from pios.library.ohyama.toyama.jp (pios.library.ohyama.toyama.jp [61.127.24.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928E337B42B; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 03:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.eudoramail.com ([207.93.225.196]) by pios.library.ohyama.toyama.jp (Build 101 8.9.3/3.5Wpl7-pios) with ESMTP id UAA28006; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:48:16 +0900 From: WSCHwatch@eudoramail.com Message-ID: <0000723b1f00$00005805$00006b6e@mx2.eudoramail.com> To: Subject: WSCH: Baby Pharmaceutical on the Rise T Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 05:45:46 -1800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reply-To: WSCHnews25@eudoramail.com Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG = Investors
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  &n= bsp;   Key Points about = WSCH:
  • The products and me= dical therapies developed by WSCH represent possibly the most important= breakthrough in the field of Dermatology in the last fifty years.&nbs= p;

  • WSCH anticipates= FDA approval on seven over-the-counter products within the next ye= ar, which will provide significant revenue in the retail drug market.
    =
  • WSCH has experie= nced a success rate of 90% during clinical studies, completely elim= inating skin disease from 90% of all patients treated.

  • By year five, WSCH plans to have annua= lized revenue over $525 million and over $125 million in EBIT.  This does not take into account income from OTC products which wi= ll be substantial.

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=

Emergin= g Growth Stock Alert
Wasatch Pharmaceuticals: A Company on the Rise

Company Name &n= bsp;Wasatch Pharmaceuticals (OTCBB: WSCH)
Current = Price$0.066
52-We= ek High$27.50
5= 2-Week Low$0.065
<= /div>

Company Background

Wasatch Pharmaceutical, Inc. is a fourteen year o= ld company with a record of outstanding achievements in the field of Derma= tology.  Under the name of its subsidiary, American Institute of Skin= Care (AISC), Wasatch has operated two prototype clinics for the la= st five years where the products and medical therapies have been tested an= d proven on hundreds of patients.  The Company's activities have been= centered on research in the area of serious skin diseases.  A= concurrent discovery and benefit is WSCH's dramatic success in the area o= f skin rejuvenation.  Seeing the high growth potential from major fun= ding, WSCH elected to become a public company less than two years a= go.

Wasatch's major successes i= n the area of skin diseases include: 

Cystic Acne, Eczema= , Seborrhea, Contact Dermatitis, Molluscum, Folliculitis, Acne Rosacea and= less prevalent skin diseases.  

Interestingly, the= se skin disorders account for more than 70% of all business in the = field of dermatology for which there are very few (if any) safe, effective= therapies like those developed by Wasatch.

Because the th= erapies developed by Wasatch dominate this area of medicine, WSCH h= as elected to market its products via company-owned clinics throughout the= United States.  This decision has resulted in the establishment of <= b>two research clinics in Utah for the purpose of implementing procedu= res within the clinics pursuant to testing and confirming the results that= were achieved in past clinical trials.  Due to its success rate o= f 90% on hundreds of patients over a five year period, WSCH's clinics = are now on line with insurance providers independent of HMOs.  Effort= s to establish Preferred Provider ship status with HMOs are presently bein= g pursued. 

Most Recent WSCH News

 

Wasatch Pharmaceutical Inc. Announc= es a New Physician Marketing Campaign and Listing On German Stock Exchange= s

MURRAY, Utah--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov.= 27, 2001--Wasatch Pharmaceutical Inc. (OTCBB:WSCH - news) CEO Gary Heesch announced today a marketing camp= aign directed to physicians. A direct link has been established on a physi= cian recruiting Web site making available therapies for the treatment of c= ystic acne, acne, folliculitis, and skin rejuvenation. Physicians will fin= d the benefits of these treatment therapies by logging on to the "= X Acne" link at physicianssearc= h.com. This physician search Web site typically receives over 2= 00,000 hits per month. Mr. Heesch reminded, "Our treatment therap= y products are also available via the AISC Online Store at restoremyskin.com.'"

These skin treatment products come in kit form providing a = 90-day supply to patients for the full treatment program. Included in the = kit is an instructional video on the treatment therapy allowing the patien= t to use these products in their home. The therapies, when used as instruc= ted, achieve a success rate of eradication in excess of 90% with no sid= e effects of any consequence. Previously, these therapies and associat= ed products were only available through the two prototype clinics in Utah.= The availability of these products will open the way for family practitio= ners, pediatricians, internists and other primary care physicians to retai= n their patients under their care during the treatment of these common ski= n disorders. The benefit to insurance providers is the potential to sav= e millions of dollars in reimbursement costs by freeing the physician and = the patient from ongoing treatment.

In the coming year, six additional therapies will be made availabl= e for a broad range of skin disorders that are badly in need of succes= sful therapies.

Gary Heesch also an= nounced the listing of Wasatch Pharmaceutical stock on the Frankfurt an= d Berlin Exchanges in Germany. Active trading on these exchanges will = take place upon the completion of a research report in Germany. Said Mr. H= eesch, "We feel this is a significant event as Wasatch will gain w= ider exposure as a leader in dermatology and will put buying pressure on its stock to reflect the true value of a company t= hat has committed years of research and development of products that allow= people with serious skin disorders to live normal and more productive liv= es."

There may be forward-loo= king statements in this release. Investors are cautioned that such forward= -looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, including, without li= mitation, continued acceptance of the Company's products, increased levels= of competition, new products introduced by competitors, changes in the ra= tes of subscriber acquisition and retention, and other risks detailed from= time to time in the Company's periodic reports filed with the Securities = and Exchange Commission.

Projections, Objectives, and Statistics

 Over a five year period, AISC (WSCH's subsidiary) p= lans to establish 350 clinics in over 100 major population areas.&n= bsp; The company plans to hire over 150 medical doctors for these clinics,= train over 1,000 medical assistants and treat over 2,000,000 patients<= /b>. Also by year five, WSCH plans to have annualized over $525 million= in revenue and over $125 million in EBIT. This does not take into acc= ount income from OTC products which will be substantial. 

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  As of 1991, there were = approximately 14 million chronic acne and eczema patients annually in the = United States, with the highest percentage between 18 to 44 years of = age. The actual number of patients with any type of acne is significa= ntly higher.  Seven billion dollars is spent annually on derma= tological pharmaceutical products for these disorders. 

=   In 1994, the teen population reached 25 million. During the next d= ecade, it will grow at nearly twice the rate of 
the overall p= opulation (according to U.S. Census Bureau projections). Acne pat= ients are primarily teenagers, whereas eczema patients range from inf= ants to the elderly.

A Look at the Competition

= Dermatologists are the primary competitors of WSCH's clinics. Dermatologis= ts specialize in the treatment of skin disorders and prescribe medications= to treat the disorder.  However, competing products address the s= ymptoms of acne and eczema, not the cause. 

<= font face=3DVerdana size=3D2>The competition's skin care treatments includ= e prescription medications (oral and external use drugs prescribed by derm= atologists and other doctors) and over-the-counter products.  
Several common prescription medications include: 
= 1) E-Mycin for oral and topical use, 2) Cleocin for oral and topical use, = 3) Tetracycline for oral and topical use, and 4) Accutane for oral use onl= y.  

Over-the-counter acne medications include: = ;
1) Clearasil and Oxy creams, 2) generic brand creams, 3) medicat= ed pads, and 4) medicated soaps. 

Many of the competit= ion's oral medications have serious side effects.

Costs for competing treatments range from $2.50 for= medicated soaps to $200 for Accutane oral medication prescription.  = Treatments are on-going.  Over time a person can spend an unlimite= d amount of money on such treatments.  An example would be someon= e who spent $1,500 for a 22 week program of Accutane which includes blood = testing.  Another example would be someone who has had acne for many = years and has spent in excess of $34,000. 

At this time there is no known competitor who treats t= he causes of these skin disorders and no competitor can claim a success= rate equal to that of Wasatch's treatments. 

Final Thoughts on WSCH<= /b>

Wi= th a proven success rate of 90% in a field that affects so many of our liv= es, Wasatch has clearly positioned itself in a market hungry and desper= ate for successful products and treatment.  WSCH has recently exp= anded its marketing presence (as seen in the above press release) and will= continue to aggressively broaden awareness over the near term. The listin= g of WSCH on the German stock exchange is another sign of the compa= ny's credibility and ambitious plans to establish itself as a major glo= bal player in the field of dermatology.  

WSCH has = taken on a completely different approach.  By addressing the causes o= f skin disorders rather than the symptoms, WSCH will help to successfully = eliminate skin disease altogether. Given its 

1. Successful = 14-year history and plans for expansion
2. Impressive revenue projecti= ons ($525 million+ annualized by year 5 and $125 million in EBIT)
= 3. Virtually unmatched success rate of 90%...

...and so much = more, WSCH will certainly watched by savvy investors for some time to come= .

DISCLAIMER= : 
Information within this email contains "forward looking s= tatements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of= 1933 and Section 21B of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Any statemen= ts that express or involve discussions with respect to predictions, expect= ations, beliefs, plans, projections, objectives, goals, assumptions or fut= ure events or performance are not statements of historical fact and may be= "forward looking statements."

Forward looking statemen= ts are based on expectations, estimates and projections at the time the st= atements are made that involve a number of risks and uncertainties wh= ich could cause actual results or events to differ materially from those p= resently anticipated. Forward looking statements in this action may be ide= ntified through the use of words such as "projects", "fores= ee", "expects", "will,"  "anticipates," "estimates," "believes," "understands" o= r that by statements indicating certain actions "may,"= ; "could," or <= font face=3DVerdana size=3D1 color=3D#5F5F5F>"might" = occur.  All information provided within this email pertaining to inve= sting, stocks, securities must be understood as information provided and n= ot investment advice. Emerging Growth Stock Alert advises all readers and = subscribers to seek advice from a registered professional securities = representative before deciding to trade in stocks featured within this ema= il.  None of the material within this report shall be construed as an= y kind of investment advice.

In compliance with the Securities Ac= t of 1933, Section17(b), Emerging Growth Stock Alert discloses the receipt= of $40,000 cash from a third party for the publication of this report and= additional services related= to WSCH. Be aware of an inherent conflict of interest resulting from such= compensation.  All factual information in this report was gathe= red from public sources, including but not limited to SEC filings, Company= Press Releases, and the company's website at wasatchpharm.com. Emerging Growth Stock Alert believes t= his information to be reliable but can make no guarantee as to its accurac= y or completeness. Use of the material within this email constitutes your = acceptance of these terms.



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<= /div> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jan 11 7:50:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from marvin.cdf.toronto.edu (marvin.cdf.toronto.edu [128.100.31.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26D637B416 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:50:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by marvin.cdf.toronto.edu (Postfix, from userid 191) id 82EC7E598; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:49:37 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Cc: gtabug Subject: production NFS server -- which OS to go? X-Face: 0=A/O5-+sE[Tf%X>rYr?Y5LD4,:^'jaJ!4jC&UR*ZrrK2>^`g22Qeb]!:d;}2YJ|Hq"LHdF OX`jWX|AT-WVFQ(TPhFVak)0nt$aEdlOq=1~D,:\z5QlVOrZ2(H,mKg=Xr|'VlHA="r From: Arcady Genkin Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:49:37 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, i686-pc-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does anyone know of a good, unbiased evaluation of Solaris/Linux/FreeBSD as NFS server? Preferably third-party. We are facing hardware/software upgrade at the computer lab of around 300 workstations (half Linux, half Solaris). We have a Solaris/Sparc box for our NFS server right now, but it will be upgraded to something. The question is: what? Since most of the clients are Linux (Solaris workstations are probably going to be replaced by i386 boxes with Linux), it would kinda make sense to have Linux for NFS server, but in the past I heard Bad Things about the NFS server side of Linux. If, say, FreeBSD could be shown to be a serious contender, this may be the chance to introduce some BSD boxes into our environment. The boss leans towards Solaris, our Linux resident ;) wants Linux; I'm the only one with any *BSD exposure *and* I'm the new kid on the block. So, if there are any arguments for FreeBSD, they need to be especially convincing. ;^) Any pointers would be highly appreciated, -- Arcady Genkin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jan 11 8:37:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ipfw.org (cr308584-a.wlfdle1.on.wave.home.com [24.103.112.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9C637B41A for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo (apollo.objtech.com [192.168.111.5]) by mail.ipfw.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC6A312D; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:37:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:37:06 -0500 From: Peter Chiu X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53bis) Reply-To: Peter Chiu X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8938301694.20020111113706@yahoo.com> To: Arcady Genkin Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, gtabug Subject: Re: gtabug - production NFS server -- which OS to go? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://kerneltrap.org/article.php?sid=415 I would suggest running that fsx program against your box and take it from there. Friday, January 11, 2002, 10:49:37 AM, you wrote: AG> Does anyone know of a good, unbiased evaluation of AG> Solaris/Linux/FreeBSD as NFS server? Preferably third-party. We are AG> facing hardware/software upgrade at the computer lab of around 300 AG> workstations (half Linux, half Solaris). We have a Solaris/Sparc box AG> for our NFS server right now, but it will be upgraded to something. AG> The question is: what? AG> Since most of the clients are Linux (Solaris workstations are probably AG> going to be replaced by i386 boxes with Linux), it would kinda make AG> sense to have Linux for NFS server, but in the past I heard Bad Things AG> about the NFS server side of Linux. If, say, FreeBSD could be shown AG> to be a serious contender, this may be the chance to introduce some AG> BSD boxes into our environment. The boss leans towards Solaris, our AG> Linux resident ;) wants Linux; I'm the only one with any *BSD exposure AG> *and* I'm the new kid on the block. So, if there are any arguments AG> for FreeBSD, they need to be especially convincing. ;^) AG> Any pointers would be highly appreciated, -- Peter \\|// (o o) +-------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo-----------------------------+ EMail : mailto:pccb(at)yahoo(dot)com PGPkey : http://www.pchiu.com/pgpkey.txt PGP fingerprint: 5167 897D A043 423E 9266 E67F 3A13 0394 B893 A931 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ wrong polarity of neutron flow To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jan 11 11:43:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from web12105.mail.yahoo.com (web12105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DBB837B400 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:42:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020111194250.20401.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.35.6.25] by web12105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:42:50 PST Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:42:50 -0800 (PST) From: Scott J Subject: Re: gtabug - production NFS server -- which OS to go? To: Arcady Genkin , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Cc: gtabug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My experience with NFS is exclusively with AIX. A while back, AIX's implementation of NFS had a few small hiccups, but now it's rock-solid. If I were considering this, I would assess what the volume of data that the NFS server will have to deal with is, and how critical an outage would be. In our environment it's used for people's Unix home directories, application directories for a few apps like CVS, and a common filesystem for staging application code to be installed (handy for us sysadmins) as well as system images (mksysb images for those AIX familiar), not incremental or full backups. Our environment is all Windows desktops with their own Windows home directories, most or all Unix-based applications for end-users are GUI-based X apps or have a Windows front-end, or they are purely batch so relatively speaking we don't have too many shell accounts. Because of this, an outage to user's home directories would be not be catastrophic. So for most things, it's fairly low-volume and medium impact. If it were to be high volume and very critical (I'm guessing it will host home directories for students using the workstations and they'll basically be unable to work if the NFS mount isn't available), I would think Solaris would be the logical choice for the server at least. As somebody already pointed out NFS was born at Sun in the early 1980's, so their implementation should be mature and stable, not to mention well supported. I'm make no claims of being an NFS expert, but given that it's a well known and relatively mature protocol I would think that there should be few, if any conflicts between Solaris as NFS server and any NFS client in any of the OS'es that you mention. Although I too had heard (in the past) that NFS was best not tried on Linux, I would expect very few problems now given the attention that it's getting from some of the larger corporations such as IBM and HP and the maturity of the kernel. If you don't have a lot of contact with IBM (I do), they are indeed pushing Linux very heavily. Sometimes for tasks that just seem outright silly to me, but I really don't think that they'd risk their reputation selling it as a solution if it had a flawed/unstable implementation of a major subsystem such as NFS. As for the BSD angle, I've never used NFS on it so I cannot comment other than to note that as someone else also pointed out, FreeBSD has had many major bug fixes that made NFS much more stable recently. In addition to the messages in the mailing list, there was recently an interview with Matt Dillon (also on kerneltrap - http://kerneltrap.com/article.php?sid=459) where he mentioned some of the bugfixes that he and others in the FreeBSD development team had performed. Unfortunately I know of no compelling argument that would suggest to run it on a BSD variant other than possibly security. This is probably the biggest selling point for NFS on BSD, that the server could be very well secured. However, since NFS itself is not terribly secure, it's not a very strong argument. I'm sorry I can't be of more help, but that's my $0.02 worth. --- Arcady Genkin wrote: > Does anyone know of a good, unbiased evaluation of > Solaris/Linux/FreeBSD as NFS server? Preferably > third-party. We are > facing hardware/software upgrade at the computer lab of > around 300 > workstations (half Linux, half Solaris). We have a > Solaris/Sparc box > for our NFS server right now, but it will be upgraded to > something. > The question is: what? > > Since most of the clients are Linux (Solaris workstations > are probably > going to be replaced by i386 boxes with Linux), it would > kinda make > sense to have Linux for NFS server, but in the past I > heard Bad Things > about the NFS server side of Linux. If, say, FreeBSD > could be shown > to be a serious contender, this may be the chance to > introduce some > BSD boxes into our environment. The boss leans towards > Solaris, our > Linux resident ;) wants Linux; I'm the only one with any > *BSD exposure > *and* I'm the new kid on the block. 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허락없이 메일을 드려 죄송합니다.
정보통신부의 윤리규정에 어긋나지않은 방법으로 게시판에서 이메일을 모아서
보낸 것입니다  또한 이메일 외에는 다른개인의 정보를 갖고있지 않습니다.
혹시 메일을 원치 않으시면 수신거부를 해주시고 1통이상의 메일이 귀하에게 도착하여서 불쾌하셨다면
진심으로 사과드립니다. 하오나 고의가 아니라 저의 오류라 생각하시고 너그러이 용서해주시기 바랍니다.
죄송합니다

이글은 현행부패방지위원회와 심각한 나라경제와 농촌문제에대하여 고심하시는분께 알려드리는 글이며
기타 관계가 없으신분에겐 아무런 목적이 없으니 바로 삭제해 주십시요


진 정 서

받음: 대통령 직속 부패 방지 위원회

보냄: 한국 은행 나무 연구원

 저는 현 고려대학교 의과대학의 전신인 수도 의대 사무국장의로 재직중
우연히 은행 나무에 관심을 갖게 되어 34년동안 선대로부터 물려 받은
많은 땅과 가산을 소진해 가면서 우리 나라의 농, 임업 소득 증대와
국리 민복을 위해 은행나무만을 연구해 온 한국 은행나무 연구원장 이 창우 입니다.

 은행 나무는 다음과 같은 많은 특,장점들이 있습니다.

1. 최고의 재목
 은행나무는 뒤틀림이 없고, 나무좀. 흰개미 등 벌레가 먹지 않으며 불에도 타지 않아
목재로서는 최고이며, 특히 오랜 세월 보존 해야 할 목기 문화재등의 재목감으로는
최적의 나무입니다.

2. 한약재 및 요리 재료
 은행 나무의 열매와 뿌리는 감기, 천식 등의 한약재와 과일주 및
고급 요리의 재료로 쓰입니다.

3. 약품의 원료
 은행 나무의 잎은 징코라이드, 바라이드 등 많은 유효 성분을 함유하고 있는데
(특히 우리나라의 은행잎이 외국산에 비해 20배 정도 많음) 은행 잎에서 추출한
엑기스는 고혈압, 당뇨병, 신장질환, 노인성치매, 뇌혈관 및 말초신경 장애 치료제로
각광받고 있습니다.

4. 화장품 등의 원료
 선진국 등에서는 은행 나무 잎은 화장품과 샴푸, 비누등의 좋은 원료가 되고 있습니다.

5. 차, 음료, 술의 재료
 은행나무 잎으로 만든 차가 나와 있으며, 기능성 건강 음료와 건강 보조 식품의 개발이
기대되고, 열매와 뿌리로 술을 담그면 기침 감기와 천식에 탁효과 있습니다.

6. 방화림 및 환경림
 빙하기를 이겨내 온 3억년 전의 유일한 '화석식물' 이고 일본의 원자폭탄 투하시에도
살아 남은 유일한 생명체로서 일본에서는 "불을 삼키는 나무"로 불리어 온 은행 나무는
불에 타지 않으므로 방화림으로 최적이어서, 만약 1999년의 고성 산불 당시 은행나무로
방화림을 조성 했더라면 그토록 엄청난 산불 피해를 막을 수 있었을 것입니다.
(요즘 뉴스에 보도된 25일동안 진화가 되지않는 호주 산불도 좋은 예임...)

 또한 은행나무는 다른 나무에 비해 5-6배의 많은 산소를 배출하여 대기오염 정화 능력이
탁월 할 뿐만 아니라 토양오염, 수질오염, 심지어 중금속오염까지 정화시키는 능력을
가지고 있습니다.
 은행나무는 벌레가 먹지 않는 등 병충해가 없으므로 친환경적인 무농약 재배가 가능하며,
자연적인 은행 낙엽은 퇴비가 되어 땅속의 병충해까지 구제하는 등 토양오염 방지 효과
뛰어납니다.
 은행나무의 살충능력 (예로 바퀴 벌레가 잘 꼬이는 집안 구석에 나무 가지를 갖다 놓으면
바퀴 벌레가 없어 집니다.) 이 살충 성분을 잘 연구, 개발하면 무공해 천연 살충제의 출현도
기대해 볼만 합니다.

7. 외국의 이용 사례 (실 태)
 .독일의 슈바베(Schwabc) 사에서는 은행 잎으로 만든 Tebonin(혈액 순환 개선제)으로
4억 2,300만 마르크 (약 2천 3백억원)의 매출을 기록한 이래 매년 30% 이상의
매출 신장을 거듭해 오고 있고,
 
 .프랑스의 입센사 에서는 은행 잎 엑스제재인 Tana can (혈액순환개선제)으로 년간 의
8억프랑(약 1천 3백억원)의 매출을 기록 했으며,

 .일본은 자국 은행잎의 유효 성분이 우리 나라의 것에 비해 현저히 떨어지고 값도
5-6배 비싼데도 매년 200만톤의 마른 은행잎을 상품화 하고 있는데, 이처럼 선진국에서는
은행 잎으로 만든 제품 (약품 및 기타 상품 포함)의 판매량이 매년 30% 이상씩 증가하고
있습니다.

 이상 은행나무의 장점만을 열거해 왔으나 단점도 있습니다.
 은행열매에는 약간의 독이 있습니다. 그러나 이 독은 열을 가하면 소멸됩니다.
이보다는 은행나무의 생육기간이 30년 정도로 비교적 길다는 것이 커다란 단접입니다.
 이 단점을 극복하기 위하여 저는 많은 시행착오를 겪으며 오랫동안 연구와 다양한 방법의
실험을 거듭해 온 바, 5년이면 열매를 수확할 수 있는 방법을 개발 하였습니다.
 그러므로 은행나무는 단점이 거의 없는 완태한 나무, 지구에 기후의 격변이 닥쳐와도
식량위기를 겪더라도 우리 인류를 구원해 줄 수 있는 유일한 대량의 나무인 것입니다.
 이러한 은행나무를 지금까지는 정부권장 수종 (잣나무, 낙엽송, 삼나무, 리기다소나무,
밤나무 등)이 아니라는 이유로, 은행나무는 기존의 조림수종 갱신 허가시 이를 불허하여
조림 초기의 막대한 비용 즉 묘목값, 식재비, 5년간의 관리비등의 융자 지원을 원천적으로
봉쇄하여 왔고, 농지의 보전 및 이용에 관한 법률 (75.12.31. 법률 제2837호)에 의하여
은행나무를 과수목이 아닌 정원수로 분류함으로써 농지에도 심지 못하게 하므로서
농가 파탄의 한 원인으로 작용하게 하였습니다.
 
 부존 자원이 없는 우리 나라에선 수출입국이 거의 유일한 생존방법인데,
우리는 외국에 모든 물품을 수출하면서 수입을 규제할 수는 없고, 값싼 수입 농산물 때문에
경쟁력을 잃어가는 우리 농촌, 무너져 가는 우리 농가의 자립, 자활대안 중 하나가 세계 최고의
경쟁력을 갖춘 은행 나무 재배-- 은행잎등 부산물의 수출은 없어서 못 팔므로 판로의 걱정은
없습니다.-- 의 확대라고 사료 되므로, 지금까지의 잘못된 농, 임업 정책을 혁파 하시어
은행 나무 재배 시에도 다른 과수 작물의 재배 또는 산림수의 식재와 동일한 시원과
융자등의 혜탹 (우월한 특혜는 바라지 않습니다.)을 앙망하여, 마침 대통혁 직속 부패 방지
위원회의 발족에 맞추어 진정 하오니 선처하여 주시기 바랍니다.

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