From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Oct 22 18:32:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C90837B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boyes.its.utas.edu.au (boyes.its.utas.edu.au [144.6.1.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817BF43E4A for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:32:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nweeks@utas.edu.au) Received: from twister.aims.private (advanc36.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.130.22]) by boyes.its.utas.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA05068 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:32:52 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:32:52 +1100 From: Nigel Weeks To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Linux and FreeBSD compared Message-Id: <20021023123252.7697fb4e.nweeks@utas.edu.au> Organization: University of Tasmania X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently heard a comparison between Linux and FreeBSD that just cracked me up. It goes something like this: How would you describe the differences between Linux and FreeBSD? Ok. You've won a car. Completely free - no cost involved. Two Choices: Daiwoo SunSport twin-turbo, quad-cam, fuel-injected, 500cc engine with triple extractors, triple harmonic balancers, 7 air bags, 43 speaker sound system, full-time 5-wheel drive, (each wheel tuned for different road surfaces and conditions), three distinct SatNav systems that argue about where you should go, and an air conditioning that implements breezes as concealed draughts(but reported by the climate control as a posix-compliant breeze), or Ferrari Testarossa with a rope handle on the inside that you pull to get out I'm not sure how much of it's accurate, but I found it funny. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Oct 25 4:21:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548BE37B401 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 04:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp07.wxs.nl (smtp07.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814BF43E75 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 04:21:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-reply@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from cybertron.kruijff ([213.10.151.186]) by smtp07.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4JBJU01.HRN; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:21:30 +0200 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:21:31 +0200 From: Alex X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Reply-To: Alex X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <34783308.20021025132131@dds.nl> To: Nigel Weeks Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux and FreeBSD compared In-Reply-To: <20021023123252.7697fb4e.nweeks@utas.edu.au> References: <20021023123252.7697fb4e.nweeks@utas.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello/Beste Nigel, Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 3:32:52 AM, you wrote: > I recently heard a comparison between Linux and FreeBSD that just cracked me up. > It goes something like this: > How would you describe the differences between Linux and FreeBSD? > Ok. You've won a car. Completely free - no cost involved. Two Choices: > Daiwoo SunSport > twin-turbo, quad-cam, fuel-injected, 500cc engine with triple extractors, triple harmonic balancers, > 7 air bags, 43 speaker sound system, full-time 5-wheel drive, (each wheel tuned for different road surfaces and conditions), three distinct SatNav systems that argue about where you should go, and > an air conditioning that implements breezes as concealed draughts(but reported by the climate control as a posix-compliant breeze), > or > Ferrari Testarossa > with a rope handle on the inside that you pull to get out > I'm not sure how much of it's accurate, but I found it funny. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message I don't think this accurate. BSD is more the terrain of the developers and Linux for the hackers. Linux has it all, but its not all thought through, not all documented and can be buggy. BSD got most, all of it is thought through, most is documented, tested and pretty stable. Just look at the boot up of the kernel of the systems. -- Best regards/Met vriendelijke groet, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Oct 26 15:20: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E3637B401 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD0143E4A for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9QMK1x3036904 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9QMK1Dj036903; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F046037B401 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFED443E42 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9QMBa7R022214 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9QMBaHO022213; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210262211.g9QMBaHO022213@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT) From: wannabeFreeBDSUser To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: advocacy/44509: xtremely bad installer for 4.71. Severe, major Bug Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Number: 44509 >Category: advocacy >Synopsis: xtremely bad installer for 4.71. Severe, major Bug >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-advocacy >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Oct 26 15:20:00 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: wannabeFreeBDSUser >Release: 4.71 >Organization: Hah >Environment: 686 >Description: The person who have written the install routine should be deported to GuLAG now, soon as h. >How-To-Repeat: As mentioned + replace him with someone who has score higher that 3 of 10 ob a common scale of common intelligence. >Fix: Rewrite entire install-procedure. Allocate 2K of memory so that settings are REMEMBERED from shet to sheet. Replace all stupidity. I'vfe been into comoting for 15 years iin a numerous OS'es. While I know FreeBSD is a breeze USING, some nobrainer must be in charge of the INSTALL. Delete him. Now, format the person. reinstall whatever makes him function. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Oct 26 15:31:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F76637B401; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E0443E6A; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:31:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (kris@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9QMVhx3040694; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:31:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9QMVhO9040690; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:31:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway Message-Id: <200210262231.g9QMVhO9040690@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tiredoftourSTALINways@FreeBSD.org, kris@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: advocacy/44509: xtremely bad installer for 4.71. Severe, major Bug Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Synopsis: xtremely bad installer for 4.71. Severe, major Bug State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: kris State-Changed-When: Sat Oct 26 15:31:37 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Not a PR http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=44509 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message