From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 0:55: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.JP [133.9.152.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D64837B400; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 00:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5N7t2N53755; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 16:55:04 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from fujimori@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Message-Id: <200206230755.g5N7t2N53755@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What are my options PC164 and Symbios 53C895 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:19:21 MST." <20020622231921.A22789@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 16:55:02 +0900 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 10:29:56PM -0700, Mike Campbell wrote: > > I just purchased a PC164 board and 500mHz processor to build an alpha > > system with, and I was hoping to use my symbios 53c895 to boot a > > seagate cheetahlvd hard drive. Everything I've seen so far (including > > HARDWARE.TXT) says it probably wont be recognized by the SRM (although > > I saw 1 post to the contrary) > Try it -- I would be surprised if it didn't work. But make sure you have > the latest SRM. I use a Tekram 53c895 based controller in my 164LX. I guess PC164 boards are different from 164LX. PC164 is simm-based, while 164LX is SDRAM based. SRMs are different. I have got several PC164 boards, and they cannot boot from 53c895 based SCSI cards; cards are not recognised, while we can plug 53c895 based beast to 164LX. One more comment. You cannot exploit the performance of LVD on 21164 systems. (Not on entry level 21264 systems, either.) I did not measure it precisely, but my feeling is the top speed of pci bus on 164LX is still below 30MB/sec. Naturally, much worse on PC164. So, in every day usage, LVD drives are mostly idle. What I do on my PC164 is to plug two UW scsi cards (53c875 based), attach two UW scsi drives, and make use of ccd. This seems to improve disk i/o. Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 3: 7:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com (mailout08.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8086F37B401 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 03:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 17M4Hf-0001JY-08; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:07:51 +0200 Received: from dill.salatschuessel.net (520085340291-0001@[217.226.22.94]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 17M4HU-1D5Ax6C; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:07:40 +0200 Received: (qmail 10779 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2002 10:07:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kartoffel.salatschuessel.net) (10.0.0.51) by dill.salatschuessel.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2002 10:07:39 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:07:39 +0200 From: Oliver Lehmann To: Mike Campbell Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What are my options PC164 and Symbios 53C895 Message-Id: <20020623120739.4089b963.lehmann@ans-netz.de> In-Reply-To: <20020622222956.A26895@saidin.avendesora.net> References: <20020622222956.A26895@saidin.avendesora.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.8cvs5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520085340291-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Mike, according to http://www.pofo.de/alpha-boot/index.php?field=chipset it should boot. ;) Greetings, Oliver -- :======> Oliver Lehmann <======: clear perl code is better than :====> lehmann@ans-netz.de <====: unclear awk code; but NOTHING :===> http://www.pofo.de/ <===: comes close to unclear perl code :=> http://wishlist.pofo.de/ <=: (taken from comp.lang.awk FAQ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 3:44:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9891037B403 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 03:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5NAhSMa058713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:43:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5NAhOFJ020258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:43:25 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5NAhOPb020257; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:43:24 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:43:23 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Oliver Lehmann Cc: Mike Campbell , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What are my options PC164 and Symbios 53C895 Message-ID: <20020623104323.GL53233@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <20020622222956.A26895@saidin.avendesora.net> <20020623120739.4089b963.lehmann@ans-netz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020623120739.4089b963.lehmann@ans-netz.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 12:07:39PM +0200, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > Hi Mike, > > according to http://www.pofo.de/alpha-boot/index.php?field=chipset it should boot. ;) The entry is wrong. A PC164 has problems to boot from such a controller. PC164LX and PC164SX are the first boards to do. So far I think I'm the only one who reported succesfull booting from these kind of controller with a PC164. I asume that's a side effect. because SRM is confused by my 810ae. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 3:50:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5434F37B40B for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 03:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwd06.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 17M4wo-0003Ya-03; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:50:22 +0200 Received: from dill.salatschuessel.net (520085340291-0001@[217.226.22.94]) by fmrl06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 17M4wg-0OO7wOC; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:50:14 +0200 Received: (qmail 10987 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2002 10:50:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kartoffel.salatschuessel.net) (10.0.0.51) by dill.salatschuessel.net with SMTP; 23 Jun 2002 10:50:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:50:13 +0200 From: Oliver Lehmann To: ticso@cicely.de Cc: madragoran@avendesora.net, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What are my options PC164 and Symbios 53C895 Message-Id: <20020623125013.74018c84.lehmann@ans-netz.de> In-Reply-To: <20020623104323.GL53233@cicely5.cicely.de> References: <20020622222956.A26895@saidin.avendesora.net> <20020623120739.4089b963.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <20020623104323.GL53233@cicely5.cicely.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.8cvs5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520085340291-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:43:23 +0200 Bernd Walter wrote: > The entry is wrong. ok, i will change it to NO.. thanks Greetings, Oliver -- :======> Oliver Lehmann <======: clear perl code is better than :====> lehmann@ans-netz.de <====: unclear awk code; but NOTHING :===> http://www.pofo.de/ <===: comes close to unclear perl code :=> http://wishlist.pofo.de/ <=: (taken from comp.lang.awk FAQ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 9:30:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFF937B40B for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 09:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 17MAG4-0002uG-00; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:30:36 +0200 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5NG5MBD066389 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:05:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5NG5MDa066388 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:05:22 +0200 (CEST) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: gdb on -CURRENT broken Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 16:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just to mention the obvious: gdb on -CURRENT is still broken and in fact appears to have deteriorated even further. gdb as built by buildworld hangs on start-up. With gallatin's libiberty/xmalloc.c patch it is possible to build a gdb that will at least minimally run but is unable to read any symbols. Presumably this error message points to a reason: Dwarf Error: Cannot handle DW_FORM_strp in DWARF reader. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 10:31: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054B037B42A for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 10:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 17MBCF-0000aX-00; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 19:30:43 +0200 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5NGnRBD066984 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:49:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5NGnRxi066983 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:49:27 +0200 (CEST) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: -CURRENT: UA in locate Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 16:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The locate(1) command throws unaligned access errors in -CURRENT. This has probably been triggered by the switch to gcc 3.1. Here's a diff with extended context to show what's going on: Index: util.c =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/src/usr.bin/locate/locate/util.c,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -U9 -r1.9 util.c --- util.c 22 Mar 2002 01:22:48 -0000 1.9 +++ util.c 23 Jun 2002 16:33:24 -0000 @@ -225,19 +225,19 @@ * Convert network byte order to host byte order if neccessary. * So we can read on FreeBSD/i386 (little endian) a locate database * which was built on SunOS/sparc (big endian). */ int getwm(p) caddr_t p; { - static char buf[INTSIZE]; + char buf[INTSIZE]; register int i; for (i = 0; i < INTSIZE; i++) buf[i] = *p++; i = *(int *)buf; if (i > MAXPATHLEN || i < -(MAXPATHLEN)) { i = ntohl(i); =================================================================== Apparently the author assumed that buf[] would be properly aligned, so that dereferencing an integer pointer would be safe. I'm at a loss how somebody can arrive at this assumption for a static object. For an automatic variable on the other hand it is a reasonable guess. Is that fix okay, or should we play games with "int buf; (char *)&buf"? -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 11: 1:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB85337B407; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23338; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 14:01:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g5NI1AE06755; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 14:01:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15638.3302.913567.234842@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 14:01:10 -0400 (EDT) To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What are my options PC164 and Symbios 53C895 In-Reply-To: <200206230755.g5N7t2N53755@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> References: <20020622231921.A22789@dragon.nuxi.com> <200206230755.g5N7t2N53755@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yoriaki FUJIMORI writes: > One more comment. You cannot exploit the performance of LVD on 21164 > systems. (Not on entry level 21264 systems, either.) I did not measure > it precisely, but my feeling is the top speed of pci bus on 164LX is > still below 30MB/sec. Naturally, much worse on PC164. Its not quite that bad. For large tranfers, a 32-bit card should be able to do ~70MB/sec for DMA reads (write to disk/ send on network) and over 100MB/sec for DMA writes (read from disk, recv on network). Here is actual data from a 164SX, which is somewhat similar to the LX: DMA rate for 8192 Byte pages (32bit / 33MHz bus) Timing 32 pages. bus_read (send) = 72 MBytes/s bus_write (recv) = 126 MBytes/s I measured my UP1000 and it was also somewhere in the this neighborhood. 64-bit cards in tsunami based machines are quite a bit better, but still are nowhere near as good as most modern x86 (or even Apple) chipsets. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 12: 7:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B86237B429 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5NJ6HMa063564 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:06:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5NJ6GFJ024504 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:06:16 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5NJ6FeT024503; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:06:15 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:06:15 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -CURRENT: UA in locate Message-ID: <20020623190614.GW53233@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 04:49:26PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > The locate(1) command throws unaligned access errors in -CURRENT. > This has probably been triggered by the switch to gcc 3.1. > > Here's a diff with extended context to show what's going on: > > Index: util.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/src/usr.bin/locate/locate/util.c,v > retrieving revision 1.9 > diff -u -U9 -r1.9 util.c > --- util.c 22 Mar 2002 01:22:48 -0000 1.9 > +++ util.c 23 Jun 2002 16:33:24 -0000 > @@ -225,19 +225,19 @@ > * Convert network byte order to host byte order if neccessary. > * So we can read on FreeBSD/i386 (little endian) a locate database > * which was built on SunOS/sparc (big endian). > */ > > int > getwm(p) > caddr_t p; > { > - static char buf[INTSIZE]; > + char buf[INTSIZE]; > register int i; > > for (i = 0; i < INTSIZE; i++) > buf[i] = *p++; > > i = *(int *)buf; > > if (i > MAXPATHLEN || i < -(MAXPATHLEN)) { > i = ntohl(i); > =================================================================== > > Apparently the author assumed that buf[] would be properly aligned, > so that dereferencing an integer pointer would be safe. I'm at a > loss how somebody can arrive at this assumption for a static object. > For an automatic variable on the other hand it is a reasonable > guess. > > Is that fix okay, or should we play games with "int buf; (char *)&buf"? The fix doesn't change the alignment contraints. Either make it a union with a stronger aligned type or malloc() it. But malloc'ing just an int is silly. It's used as an int later so it should be either be a union with an int or just an int and cast inside the loop as you already wrote. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 12:45:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204EE37B401 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5NJjVP8051528; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:45:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.4/8.12.3/Submit) id g5NJjUDY051527; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:45:30 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb on -CURRENT broken Message-ID: <20020623124530.A51459@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from naddy@mips.inka.de on Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 04:05:21PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 04:05:21PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Just to mention the obvious: gdb on -CURRENT is still broken and > in fact appears to have deteriorated even further. > gdb as built by buildworld hangs on start-up. With gallatin's When did you last update your sources? I committed a work around last week. > Presumably this error message points to a reason: > > Dwarf Error: Cannot handle DW_FORM_strp in DWARF reader. You need to follow -CURRENT much closer; AND even read src/UPDATING. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 13:20:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EB737B401; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5NKJZMa064444 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:19:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5NKJYFJ024993 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:19:34 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5NKJYvp024992; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:19:34 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:19:34 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdb on -CURRENT broken Message-ID: <20020623201933.GZ53233@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <20020623124530.A51459@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020623124530.A51459@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 12:45:30PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 04:05:21PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > Just to mention the obvious: gdb on -CURRENT is still broken and > > in fact appears to have deteriorated even further. > > gdb as built by buildworld hangs on start-up. With gallatin's > > When did you last update your sources? I committed a work around last > week. > > > Presumably this error message points to a reason: > > > > Dwarf Error: Cannot handle DW_FORM_strp in DWARF reader. > > You need to follow -CURRENT much closer; AND even read src/UPDATING. Currently updating is bad. We still have the panic mentioned by des. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 14:30:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF3E37B401 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 14:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 17MEwB-0003mL-00; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 23:30:23 +0200 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5NL9FBD027760 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 23:09:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5NL9Fvf027759 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 23:09:15 +0200 (CEST) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: gdb on -CURRENT broken Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20020623124530.A51459@dragon.nuxi.com> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > > Just to mention the obvious: gdb on -CURRENT is still broken and > > When did you last update your sources? A week--actually, two weeks ago. > You need to follow -CURRENT much closer; AND even read src/UPDATING. Hmpf. The latter I certainly do when updating. Well, sorry then. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 16:22:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39EB37B401 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 16:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g5NNMTY72040 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:22:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5NNMSG46311 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:22:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:22:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20020623.172213.49286833.imp@village.org> To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Wither the nexus driver? From: "M. Warner Losh" X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK. I give up. Where's the alpha's nexus driver implemented? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 16:35:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B9637B409 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 16:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5NNY0Ma066397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Mon, 24 Jun 2002 01:34:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5NNXvFJ027364 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 24 Jun 2002 01:33:57 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5NNXusB027363; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 01:33:56 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 01:33:56 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wither the nexus driver? Message-ID: <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <20020623.172213.49286833.imp@village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020623.172213.49286833.imp@village.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 05:22:13PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > OK. I give up. Where's the alpha's nexus driver implemented? root node is the chipset: [67]cicely9# devinfo cia0 pcib0 pci0 sym0 sym1 sym2 isab0 isa0 atkbdc0 fdc0 fd0 mcclock0 ppc0 sc0 sio0 sio1 vga0 xl0 miibus0 xlphy0 atapci0 ata0 ata1 -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 20:56:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FDE37B401 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g5O3uaY73140; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:56:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5O3uaG47655; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:56:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:56:04 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20020623.215604.44113855.imp@village.org> To: ticso@cicely.de, ticso@cicely5.cicely.de Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wither the nexus driver? From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> References: <20020623.172213.49286833.imp@village.org> <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message: <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> Bernd Walter writes: : root node is the chipset: : [67]cicely9# devinfo : cia0 OK. Is cia the only chipset, or are there others? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jun 23 21: 0:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA9537B403 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 21:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02088; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:00:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g5O40Bs07241; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:00:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15638.39243.635286.767878@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 00:00:11 -0400 (EDT) To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: ticso@cicely.de, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wither the nexus driver? In-Reply-To: <20020623.215604.44113855.imp@village.org> References: <20020623.172213.49286833.imp@village.org> <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> <20020623.215604.44113855.imp@village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org M. Warner Losh writes: > In message: <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> > Bernd Walter writes: > : root node is the chipset: > : [67]cicely9# devinfo > : cia0 > > OK. Is cia the only chipset, or are there others? There are many more. apecs, dwlpx, irongate, lca, mcpcia, t2, tsunami. And I'm probably leaving a few out. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 11: 7:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C033D37B4B9 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g5OI4sO81913; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:04:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:04:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: "M. Warner Losh" , ticso@cicely.de, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wither the nexus driver? In-Reply-To: <15638.39243.635286.767878@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org note that on 8X00 and 4100 systems that the PCI chipset is *not* the root nexus (or shouldn't be) The 8X00 main system bus is the TLSB (turbolaser), which has different memory, cpu or I/O modules. The I/O modules KFTIA/KTFTH then send hoses out to outlying boxes. One of these happens to be a DWLPX (pci controller), but many others are possible, including FutureBus (which shows you how *long* futurebus has been rolling around). The 4100 main system bus has MCbus as the main system bus. It has MCPCIA modules which are the PCI interfaces. This is has always been a peeve of mine about *BSD usage of root 'nexus'- the assumption that the PCI chipset is the one and only nexus. On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > M. Warner Losh writes: > > In message: <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> > > Bernd Walter writes: > > : root node is the chipset: > > : [67]cicely9# devinfo > > : cia0 > > > > OK. Is cia the only chipset, or are there others? > > There are many more. > > apecs, dwlpx, irongate, lca, mcpcia, t2, tsunami. > And I'm probably leaving a few out. > > Drew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 12:17:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF18137B422 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.nlsystems.com ([62.49.251.130] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17MZIV-000Jq4-0U; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:14:47 +0100 Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g5OJDpGL032921; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:13:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@herring.nlsystems.com) Received: (from dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) id g5OJDpj6032920; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:13:51 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Doug Rabson To: "M. Warner Losh" , ticso@cicely.de, ticso@cicely5.cicely.de Subject: Re: Wither the nexus driver? Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:13:51 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 Cc: alpha@freebsd.org References: <20020623.172213.49286833.imp@village.org> <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> <20020623.215604.44113855.imp@village.org> In-Reply-To: <20020623.215604.44113855.imp@village.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200206242013.51504.dfr@nlsystems.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 24 June 2002 4:56 am, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> > > Bernd Walter writes: > : root node is the chipset: > : [67]cicely9# devinfo > : cia0 > > OK. Is cia the only chipset, or are there others? I guess you are asking this question to decide where to put the implement= ation=20 of child_present? Why not put it in root0? That way you don't have to tou= ch=20 all the MD drivers at all. --=20 Doug Rabson=09=09=09=09Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com =09=09=09=09=09Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 12:21:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.wemm.org (12-232-114-102.client.attbi.com [12.232.114.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137AE37B403 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D220C380E; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:21:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: Andrew Gallatin , "M. Warner Losh" , ticso@cicely.de, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wither the nexus driver? In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:21:43 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20020624192143.D220C380E@overcee.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote: > > note that on 8X00 and 4100 systems that the PCI chipset is *not* the root > nexus (or shouldn't be) [..] > This is has always been a peeve of mine about *BSD usage of root 'nexus'- the > assumption that the PCI chipset is the one and only nexus. Logically, shouldn't the "nexus" be the cpu's backplane? ie: root -> cpu -> nexus -+-> hostpci -> .... +-> otherbus etc > On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > M. Warner Losh writes: > > > In message: <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> > > > Bernd Walter writes: > > > : root node is the chipset: > > > : [67]cicely9# devinfo > > > : cia0 > > > > > > OK. Is cia the only chipset, or are there others? > > > > There are many more. > > > > apecs, dwlpx, irongate, lca, mcpcia, t2, tsunami. > > And I'm probably leaving a few out. > > > > Drew Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 12:27:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postfix1-2.free.fr (postfix1-2.free.fr [213.228.0.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A21C37B403 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imp1-2.free.fr (imp1-2.free.fr [213.228.0.151]) by postfix1-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E55AB6DF for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:27:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by imp1-2.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id CDE9F87396; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:27:51 +0200 (MEST) To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Digital StorageWorks 300AA & HSZ40C Message-ID: <1024946871.3d1772b7b3021@imp.free.fr> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:27:51 +0200 (MEST) From: ANTOINE Pierre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 172.133.166.107 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, My Alpha 2100A perfectly boot with FreeBSD 4.6, my problem (previous mail) was: "Put the VGA PCI card in first PCI block"! I've surf a while before founding how to configure RAID on the mylex controller, but it's finaly done. Now, I'm seeking informations about a Digital StorageWorks 300AA hooked to a PCI card: KZPSA SCSI Controller. Is this StorageWorks Arrays supported on FreeBSD ? Has anyone an StorageWorks working with his alpha server ? Can you see disks in SRM or you needs to access it via a special driver ? On the server, I can see the SCSI interface KZPSA as pkb, doing show FRU, and show CONFIG, but no disks. I've hook a serial terminal to the Digital StorageWorks 300AA, playing at 9600 bauds and get a prompt. Any command fail and suggest to do a "SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER" so i give you the result: HSZ40C>SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER Controller: HSZ40 ZG61200481 Firmware V34Z-0, Hardware A02 Not configured for dual-redundancy SCSI address 7 Time: NOT SET Host port: SCSI target(s) (0), Preferred target(s) (0) TRANSFER_RATE_REQUESTED = 10MHZ Cache: 32 megabyte write cache, version 2 Cache is INVALID. Cache containing unflushed data has been removed from this controller Battery is FAILED Unknown unflushed data in cache CACHE_FLUSH_TIMER = DEFAULT (10 seconds) CACHE_POLICY = A NOCACHE_UPS Host Functionality Mode = A This controller has an invalid cache module Invalid cache -- CLI command set reduced. Type SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER. Please- see user guide to determine corrective action HSZ40C> Thanks for your tips. ---------------- ANTOINE Pierre nunux@free.fr --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 12:37: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1790E37B400 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g5OJb0Y77413; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:37:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5OJaxG52970; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:36:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:36:47 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20020624.133647.130619727.imp@village.org> To: dfr@nlsystems.com Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wither the nexus driver? From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200206242013.51504.dfr@nlsystems.com> References: <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> <20020623.215604.44113855.imp@village.org> <200206242013.51504.dfr@nlsystems.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message: <200206242013.51504.dfr@nlsystems.com> Doug Rabson writes: : On Monday 24 June 2002 4:56 am, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > In message: <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> : > : > Bernd Walter writes: : > : root node is the chipset: : > : [67]cicely9# devinfo : > : cia0 : > : > OK. Is cia the only chipset, or are there others? : : I guess you are asking this question to decide where to put the implementation : of child_present? Why not put it in root0? That way you don't have to touch : all the MD drivers at all. Yes. That's right. I didn't do that because it didn't occur to me to do that. Since I didn't see root0 in the devinfo list on my box, I didn't think that would work. Will it? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 12:59:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from qescan2.qgraph.com (QESCAN2.qgraph.com [206.158.124.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9DAD37B4CB for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.168.200.30 by qescan2.qgraph.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:57:45 -0500 Received: by sxsmtp3.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:57:44 -0500 Message-ID: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E25E7@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: 'ANTOINE Pierre' , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Digital StorageWorks 300AA & HSZ40C Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 14:57:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First clear your cache, you won't see any disks because: 1) You are in a reduced CLI set 2) You have invalid cache 3) More than likely, your units are inoperative because they are in write-protect mode to ensure your data is safe because of the cache being invalid. This happens when the controllers are powered down without being gracefully shutdown. It is not sure if the data contained in the cache is valid or not, so it won't write it to disk and it is waiting for user intervention. So, to fix said situation, you have to type this command in exactly: clear this invalid_cache nodestroy_unflushed_data Then do a 'sho this' to see if your cache errors are gone, cache state should be GOOD. If this is the case, then proceed. I see you you only have one controller, if you had two, you would repeat the command for the other one, except that you would replace 'this' with 'other' Ok, then, do a 'show units full' to see if your drive units are in write-protect mode, or data-safety, inoperative, etc. To fix that, type in: clear lost_data This will take a bit, and then your raidsets, mirrorsets, etc. will begin rebuilding. Repeat for all units that are in that state. This will take awhile, but you will then be able to reboot your server and access the disks. Not a big deal, just a little scary to someone who has never encountered this before. HTH, AJ Schroeder -----Original Message----- From: ANTOINE Pierre [mailto:nunux@free.fr] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:28 PM To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Digital StorageWorks 300AA & HSZ40C Hi, My Alpha 2100A perfectly boot with FreeBSD 4.6, my problem (previous mail) was: "Put the VGA PCI card in first PCI block"! I've surf a while before founding how to configure RAID on the mylex controller, but it's finaly done. Now, I'm seeking informations about a Digital StorageWorks 300AA hooked to a PCI card: KZPSA SCSI Controller. Is this StorageWorks Arrays supported on FreeBSD ? Has anyone an StorageWorks working with his alpha server ? Can you see disks in SRM or you needs to access it via a special driver ? On the server, I can see the SCSI interface KZPSA as pkb, doing show FRU, and show CONFIG, but no disks. I've hook a serial terminal to the Digital StorageWorks 300AA, playing at 9600 bauds and get a prompt. Any command fail and suggest to do a "SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER" so i give you the result: HSZ40C>SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER Controller: HSZ40 ZG61200481 Firmware V34Z-0, Hardware A02 Not configured for dual-redundancy SCSI address 7 Time: NOT SET Host port: SCSI target(s) (0), Preferred target(s) (0) TRANSFER_RATE_REQUESTED = 10MHZ Cache: 32 megabyte write cache, version 2 Cache is INVALID. Cache containing unflushed data has been removed from this controller Battery is FAILED Unknown unflushed data in cache CACHE_FLUSH_TIMER = DEFAULT (10 seconds) CACHE_POLICY = A NOCACHE_UPS Host Functionality Mode = A This controller has an invalid cache module Invalid cache -- CLI command set reduced. Type SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER. Please- see user guide to determine corrective action HSZ40C> Thanks for your tips. ---------------- ANTOINE Pierre nunux@free.fr --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 13: 1:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from qescan1.qgraph.com (QESCAN1.qgraph.com [206.158.124.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1ACD37B646 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.168.200.28 by qescan1.qgraph.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:00:41 -0500 Received: by sxsmtp1.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:00:40 -0500 Message-ID: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E25E9@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: 'ANTOINE Pierre' , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Digital StorageWorks 300AA & HSZ40C Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:00:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I look at the console output again, and your cache battery may give you fits as well. HSZ's are funny when it comes to cache batteries. If it still comes up as failed, do a 'run frutil', hit yes to replace the cache battery, then, when it prompts you to replace the battery, just hit enter, (hopefully) that will clear any battery errors. Cross your fingers. AJ -----Original Message----- From: ANTOINE Pierre [mailto:nunux@free.fr] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:28 PM To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Digital StorageWorks 300AA & HSZ40C Hi, My Alpha 2100A perfectly boot with FreeBSD 4.6, my problem (previous mail) was: "Put the VGA PCI card in first PCI block"! I've surf a while before founding how to configure RAID on the mylex controller, but it's finaly done. Now, I'm seeking informations about a Digital StorageWorks 300AA hooked to a PCI card: KZPSA SCSI Controller. Is this StorageWorks Arrays supported on FreeBSD ? Has anyone an StorageWorks working with his alpha server ? Can you see disks in SRM or you needs to access it via a special driver ? On the server, I can see the SCSI interface KZPSA as pkb, doing show FRU, and show CONFIG, but no disks. I've hook a serial terminal to the Digital StorageWorks 300AA, playing at 9600 bauds and get a prompt. Any command fail and suggest to do a "SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER" so i give you the result: HSZ40C>SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER Controller: HSZ40 ZG61200481 Firmware V34Z-0, Hardware A02 Not configured for dual-redundancy SCSI address 7 Time: NOT SET Host port: SCSI target(s) (0), Preferred target(s) (0) TRANSFER_RATE_REQUESTED = 10MHZ Cache: 32 megabyte write cache, version 2 Cache is INVALID. Cache containing unflushed data has been removed from this controller Battery is FAILED Unknown unflushed data in cache CACHE_FLUSH_TIMER = DEFAULT (10 seconds) CACHE_POLICY = A NOCACHE_UPS Host Functionality Mode = A This controller has an invalid cache module Invalid cache -- CLI command set reduced. Type SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER. Please- see user guide to determine corrective action HSZ40C> Thanks for your tips. ---------------- ANTOINE Pierre nunux@free.fr --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 13: 1:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298C637B4A8 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.4/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5OK0qo3003644; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:00:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) id g5OK0pdp003643; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:00:51 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: ticso@cicely.de Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdb on -CURRENT broken Message-ID: <20020624130051.C3130@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020623124530.A51459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020623201933.GZ53233@cicely5.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020623201933.GZ53233@cicely5.cicely.de>; from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de on Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 10:19:34PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 10:19:34PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > When did you last update your sources? I committed a work around last > > week. > > > > > Presumably this error message points to a reason: > > > > > > Dwarf Error: Cannot handle DW_FORM_strp in DWARF reader. > > > > You need to follow -CURRENT much closer; AND even read src/UPDATING. > > Currently updating is bad. > We still have the panic mentioned by des. You can still update only src/contrib/gdb and usr/gnu/usr.bin/binutils and build a new gdb. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 13:16:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from clubfoot.cracktown.com (66-152-21-243.ded.btitelecom.net [66.152.21.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3FE37B412 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clubfoot.cracktown.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clubfoot.cracktown.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5OKGBGq000313; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:16:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from joeo@cracktown.com) Received: from localhost (joeo@localhost) by clubfoot.cracktown.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id g5OKG4vd000310; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:16:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: clubfoot.cracktown.com: joeo owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:16:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe O To: ANTOINE Pierre Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital StorageWorks 300AA & HSZ40C In-Reply-To: <1024946871.3d1772b7b3021@imp.free.fr> Message-ID: <20020624153857.O218-100000@clubfoot.cracktown.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You'll need to use the serial terminal attached to the scsi box to define some raid containers comprised of the disks in the array, once you do that a disk volume should appear on the scsi bus that looks and acts like a normal scsi disk to the host OS. You'll need to scare up a manual. these lines in the status; > Cache is INVALID. Cache containing unflushed data > has been removed from this controller > Battery is FAILED inidcate you (or the original purchaser) didn't buy the battery backup option on the controller card. I have no idea if the scsi adapter you mention is currently supported. On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, ANTOINE Pierre wrote: > Hi, > > My Alpha 2100A perfectly boot with FreeBSD 4.6, > my problem (previous mail) was: "Put the VGA PCI card in first PCI block"! > > I've surf a while before founding how to configure RAID on the mylex > controller, but it's finaly done. > > Now, I'm seeking informations about a Digital StorageWorks 300AA > hooked to a PCI card: KZPSA SCSI Controller. > > Is this StorageWorks Arrays supported on FreeBSD ? Has anyone an StorageWorks > working with his alpha server ? Can you see disks in SRM or you needs > to access it via a special driver ? > > On the server, I can see the SCSI interface KZPSA as pkb, doing show FRU, > and show CONFIG, but no disks. > > I've hook a serial terminal to the Digital StorageWorks 300AA, playing at > 9600 bauds and get a prompt. Any command fail and suggest to do a "SHOW > THIS_CONTROLLER" so i give you the result: > > HSZ40C>SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER > Controller: > HSZ40 ZG61200481 Firmware V34Z-0, Hardware A02 > Not configured for dual-redundancy > SCSI address 7 > Time: NOT SET > Host port: > SCSI target(s) (0), Preferred target(s) (0) > TRANSFER_RATE_REQUESTED = 10MHZ > Cache: > 32 megabyte write cache, version 2 > Cache is INVALID. Cache containing unflushed data > has been removed from this controller > Battery is FAILED > Unknown unflushed data in cache > CACHE_FLUSH_TIMER = DEFAULT (10 seconds) > CACHE_POLICY = A > NOCACHE_UPS > Host Functionality Mode = A > This controller has an invalid cache module > Invalid cache -- CLI command set reduced. Type SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER. Please- > see user guide to determine corrective action > HSZ40C> > > Thanks for your tips. > > ---------------- > ANTOINE Pierre > > nunux@free.fr > --------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 13:28:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF6E37B40D for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.nlsystems.com ([62.49.251.130] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17MaRi-000KjG-0W; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:28:22 +0100 Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g5OKSJGL033707; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:28:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@herring.nlsystems.com) Received: (from dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) id g5OKSIcR033706; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:28:18 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Doug Rabson To: "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: Wither the nexus driver? Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:28:18 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 Cc: alpha@freebsd.org References: <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> <200206242013.51504.dfr@nlsystems.com> <20020624.133647.130619727.imp@village.org> In-Reply-To: <20020624.133647.130619727.imp@village.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200206242128.18832.dfr@nlsystems.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 24 June 2002 8:36 pm, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <200206242013.51504.dfr@nlsystems.com> > > Doug Rabson writes: > : On Monday 24 June 2002 4:56 am, M. Warner Losh wrote: > : > In message: <20020623233355.GE53233@cicely5.cicely.de> > : > > : > Bernd Walter writes: > : > : root node is the chipset: > : > : [67]cicely9# devinfo > : > : cia0 > : > > : > OK. Is cia the only chipset, or are there others? > : > : I guess you are asking this question to decide where to put the > : implementation of child_present? Why not put it in root0? That way yo= u > : don't have to touch all the MD drivers at all. > > Yes. That's right. I didn't do that because it didn't occur to me to > do that. Since I didn't see root0 in the devinfo list on my box, I > didn't think that would work. Will it? I don't see why it shouldn't work. The root device is artificially hidden= but=20 it still exists - check out the root_driver in subr_bus.c. --=20 Doug Rabson=09=09=09=09Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com =09=09=09=09=09Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 15:10:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F06137B400 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g5OM9XO83810; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:09:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:09:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Peter Wemm Cc: Andrew Gallatin , "M. Warner Losh" , ticso@cicely.de, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wither the nexus driver? In-Reply-To: <20020624192143.D220C380E@overcee.wemm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Peter Wemm wrote: > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > note that on 8X00 and 4100 systems that the PCI chipset is *not* the root > > nexus (or shouldn't be) > [..] > > This is has always been a peeve of mine about *BSD usage of root 'nexus'- the > > assumption that the PCI chipset is the one and only nexus. > > Logically, shouldn't the "nexus" be the cpu's backplane? > > ie: > root -> cpu -> nexus -+-> hostpci -> .... > +-> otherbus etc > A CPU is just another peripheral. The system nexus is, at least to my understanding, the main system interconnect that all major components tie into. If you have to have a tree representation, root == nexus. So, root/nexus -> cpu -> memory -> iobus So, whatever the "MAIN SYSTEM INTERCONNECT" is would be the system nexus. For 8X00 systems, it's the TLSB. For PCs it really probably really *is* the motherboard PCI/memory controller chipset (i.e., PIIIX). On SparcStation 1 it was the memory/SBus ASIC. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 17:30:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9131F37B404 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 17MeE0-0005BK-00; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 02:30:28 +0200 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5P07pBD009478 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 02:07:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5P07o7M009477 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 02:07:50 +0200 (CEST) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: gdb on -CURRENT broken Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 00:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20020623124530.A51459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020623201933.GZ53233@cicely5.cicely.de> <20020624130051.C3130@dragon.nuxi.com> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > You can still update only src/contrib/gdb and usr/gnu/usr.bin/binutils > and build a new gdb. :-) Doesn't it deal with shared libraries, or did I loose my debugging information along the way? 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------=_NextPart_000_0054_01C21C47.9B76B8E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 23:43:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DFC37B4A0 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5P6eJk6008818; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:40:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5P6eJSc008817; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:40:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:40:19 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: ANTOINE Pierre Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital StorageWorks 300AA & HSZ40C Message-ID: <20020625084019.A8785@freebie.xs4all.nl> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <1024946871.3d1772b7b3021@imp.free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1024946871.3d1772b7b3021@imp.free.fr>; from nunux@free.fr on Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 09:27:51PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.6-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 09:27:51PM +0200, ANTOINE Pierre wrote: > Hi, > > My Alpha 2100A perfectly boot with FreeBSD 4.6, > my problem (previous mail) was: "Put the VGA PCI card in first PCI block"! > > I've surf a while before founding how to configure RAID on the mylex > controller, but it's finaly done. > > Now, I'm seeking informations about a Digital StorageWorks 300AA > hooked to a PCI card: KZPSA SCSI Controller. > > Is this StorageWorks Arrays supported on FreeBSD ? Has anyone an StorageWorks A HSZ40 works fine on FreeBSD. But the KZPSA you can forget, it is not supported as there is no driver for it. A differential SCSI version of a Qlogic adapter will work fine with FreeBSD & the HSZ40. DEC calls these the KZPBA-CB > Not configured for dual-redundancy > SCSI address 7 > Time: NOT SET > Host port: > SCSI target(s) (0), Preferred target(s) (0) > TRANSFER_RATE_REQUESTED = 10MHZ > Cache: > 32 megabyte write cache, version 2 > Cache is INVALID. Cache containing unflushed data > has been removed from this controller > Battery is FAILED Dead battery. Not uncommon. > Unknown unflushed data in cache > CACHE_FLUSH_TIMER = DEFAULT (10 seconds) > CACHE_POLICY = A > NOCACHE_UPS > Host Functionality Mode = A > This controller has an invalid cache module > Invalid cache -- CLI command set reduced. Type SHOW THIS_CONTROLLER. Please- > see user guide to determine corrective action Run something like: CLEAR_INVALID CACHE THIS (iirc that is). SET CACHE_UPS will disable the battery check, but you better have a UPS connected in this case. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jun 24 23:54:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.JP [133.9.152.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C1437B816 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 23:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5P6nwN56776 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:49:59 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from fujimori@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Message-Id: <200206250649.g5P6nwN56776@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: linux super page/alpha Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:49:58 +0900 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear listers, I was informed of the existence of the subject matter on http://shimizu-lab.dt.u-tokai.ac.jp/lsp.html This page is written in English. 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------=_NextPart_000_01FE_01C21C67.BCB0AE60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 25 2:55: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3E9E37B43C for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 02:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:49:42 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.5 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:49:32 +0200 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Subject: System won't start with 3DLabs GVX1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Altough not really an OS spesific questions as such, I'm running out of places to look and people to ask for and about this. I'm trying to install a 3DLabs GVX1 PCI graphic card in my 164LX (EB164) system. When the power is turned on with this card installed, nothing happens! The keyboard lights flashes once, there's about half a second of disk activity, then the system dies. There's no screen output what so ever. I just upgraded the SRM from 5.6-3 to 5.8-1. Compaq say they support the 3DLabs VX1 card on systems with a minimum SRM version of 5.8 (5.9 for dual head, but 5.8 is the latest I can find for the 164LX). If someone knows of a newer SRM version for the 164LX, I would appreicate an URL to it...? The VX1 uses the same processor, the 3DLabs GLINT R3. In addition, the GVX1 has a Delta geometry processor. I have no clue as to what could be wrong here. I've tested the card in a x86 system just to se that it's not faulty, and it works fine. I've also tried another monitor, but with the same result. I even tried the card in all PCI slots, both 32-bit and 64-bit. Have anyone else tried this card, preferably with a larger degree of success then I? - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jun 25 8:21: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from web21210.mail.yahoo.com (web21210.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A018837B779 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020625152014.89665.qmail@web21210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.87.127.249] by web21210.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:20:14 PDT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:20:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David Camara Subject: CONFIDENTIAL PROPOSAL. To: davidcamara21@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20020603114048.22372.qmail@web14801.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1063709147-1025018414=:86778" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-1063709147-1025018414=:86778 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii DAVID CAMARA, AMSTERDAM THE NETHERLANDS CONFIDENTIAL . You may be surprised to receive this letter from me since you do not know me personally. The purpose of my introduction is that I am David Camara, the first son of yugo Camara one of the most popular black farmer in Zimbabwe who was recently murdered in the land dispute in my country. I got your contact through network online hence decided to write you. Before the death of my father, he had taken me to Johannesburg to deposit the sum of USD$6.5 million (Six million, Five Hundred thousand United States dollars), in one of the private security company, as he foresaw the looming danger in Zimbabwe this money was deposited in a box as gem stones to avoid much demurrage from security company. This amount was meant for the purchase of new machines and chemicals for the Farms and establishment of new farms in Swaziland. This land problem came when Zimbabwean President Mr. Robert Mugabe introduced a new Land Act Reform wholly affecting the rich white farmers and some few black farmers, and this resulted to the killing and mob action by Zimbabwean war veterans and some lunatics in the society. In fact a lot of people were killed because of this Land reform Act for which my father was one of the victims. It is against this background that, I and my family fled Zimbabwe for fear of our lives and are currently staying in the Netherlands where we are seeking political asylum and moreso have decided to transfer my father’s money to a more reliable foreign account. since the law of Netherlands prohibits a refugee (asylum seeker) to open any bank account or to be involved in any financial transaction throughout the territorial zone of Netherlands, As the eldest son of my father, I am saddled with the responsibility of seeking a genuine foreign account where this money could be transferred without the knowledge of my government who are bent on taking everything we have got. The South African government seems to be playing along with them. I am faced with the dilemma of moving this amount of money out of South Africa for fear of going through the same experience in future, both countries have similar political history. As a businessman,I am seeking for a partner who I have to entrust my future and that of my family in his hands, I must let you know that this transaction is risk free. If you accept to assist me and my family, all I want you to do for me, is to make an arrangements with the security company to clear the consignment(funds) from their afiliate office here in the Netherlands as i have already given directives for the consignment to be brought to the Netherlands from South Africa.But before then all modalities will have to be put in place like change of ownership to the consignment and more importantly this money I intend to use for investment. I have two options for you. Firstly you can choose to have certain percentage of the money for nominating your account for this transaction. Or you can go into partnership with me for the proper profitable investment of the money in your country. Whichever the option you want, feel free to notify me. I have also mapped out 5% of this money for all kinds of expenses incurred in the process of this transaction. If you do not prefer a partnership I am willing to give you 10% of the money while the remaining 85% will be for my investment in your country. Contact me with the E-mail addresse, while I implore you to maintain the absolute secrecy required in this transaction. Thanks, GOD BLESS YOU Yours Faithfully, David Camara. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup --0-1063709147-1025018414=:86778 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

DAVID CAMARA,
AMSTERDAM THE NETHERLANDS



CONFIDENTIAL .

You may be surprised to receive this letter from me
since you do not know me personally. The purpose of
my introduction is that I am David Camara, the
first son of yugo Camara one of the most popular black
farmer in Zimbabwe who was recently murdered in the
land dispute in my country. I got your contact through
network online hence decided to write you.

Before the death of my father, he had taken me to
Johannesburg to deposit the sum of USD$6.5 million
(Six million, Five Hundred thousand United States
dollars), in one of the private security company, as
he
foresaw the looming danger in Zimbabwe this money was
deposited in a box as gem stones to avoid much
demurrage from security company. This amount was
meant for the purchase of new machines and chemicals
for the Farms and establishment of new farms in
Swaziland.

This land problem came when Zimbabwean President Mr.
Robert Mugabe introduced a new Land Act Reform
wholly affecting the rich white farmers and some few
black farmers, and this resulted to the killing and
mob
action by Zimbabwean war veterans and some lunatics in
the society. In fact a lot of people were killed
because of this Land reform Act for which my father
was one of the victims.

It is against this background that, I and my family
fled Zimbabwe for fear of our lives and are
currently staying in the Netherlands where we are
seeking political asylum and moreso have decided to
transfer my father’s money to a more reliable
foreign account. since the law of Netherlands
prohibits a refugee (asylum seeker) to open any bank
account or to be involved in any financial transaction
throughout the territorial zone of Netherlands, As the
eldest son of my father, I am saddled with the
responsibility of seeking a genuine foreign account
where this money could be transferred without the
knowledge of my government who are bent on taking
everything we have got. The South African government
seems to be playing along with them.

I am faced with the dilemma of moving this amount of
money out of South Africa for fear of going through
the same experience in future, both countries have
similar political history. As a businessman,I am
seeking for a partner who I have to entrust my future
and that of my family in his hands, I must let you
know that this transaction is risk free. If you accept
to assist me and my family, all I want you to do for
me, is to make an arrangements with the security
company to clear the consignment(funds) from their
afiliate office here in the Netherlands as i have
already given directives for the consignment to be
brought to the Netherlands from South Africa.But
before then all modalities will have to be put in
place like change of ownership to the consignment and
more importantly this money I intend to use for
investment.

I have two options for you. Firstly you can choose to
have certain percentage of the money for nominating
your account for this transaction. Or you can go
into partnership with me for the proper profitable
investment of the money in your country. Whichever
the option you want, feel free to notify me. I have
also mapped out 5% of this money for all kinds of
expenses incurred in the process of this transaction.
If you do not prefer a partnership I am willing to
give you 10% of the money while the remaining 85% will
be for my investment in your country. Contact me with
the E-mail addresse,

while I implore you to maintain the absolute secrecy
required in this transaction.

Thanks, GOD BLESS YOU

Yours Faithfully,
David Camara.










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Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup --0-1063709147-1025018414=:86778-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jun 26 1:59:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA9DD37B408 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 01:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12619 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2002 08:58:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hermes.gmx.de) (62.8.216.13) by mail.gmx.net (mp004-rz3) with SMTP; 26 Jun 2002 08:58:29 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020626104128.023aefe8@pop.gmx.net> X-Sender: 9180731@pop.gmx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:58:17 +0200 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: bernd_muc@gmx.de Subject: PCMCIA slots on Multia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have installed FreeBSD-current on my Multia and all works fine - except the PCMCIA slots (which actually is the reason why I installed it). These are the messages I get when I insert a card (I've tried a Orinoco WaveLAN and a 3com ethernet card): pccard: card inserted, slot 0 pccardd[121]: No card in database for "(null)"("(null)") pccardc dumpcis results in multia# pccardc dumpcis Read return -1 bytes (expected 2) pccardc: CIS code read: Bad address Read return -1 bytes (expected 10) Configuration data for card in slot 0 2 slots found Obviously, my Multia knows that there is a card but cannot read its information. Which arguments do I need to hand to pccardd so that it knows where to look? My configuration looks like this: device pcic device card and in /boot/devices.hints I have added hint.pcic.0.at="isa" hint.pcic.1.at="isa" Any ideas on how to get this working? Cheers! And keep up the good work! Bernd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jun 26 8: 6: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx.unesp.br (armstrong.unesp.br [200.145.1.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D24237B994 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Spamassassin Check (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.unesp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0C75C2D8 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:04:29 -0300 (BRT) Received: from civitate.ai.unesp.br (civitate.ai.unesp.br [200.145.2.12]) by mx.unesp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428E75C2D8 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:04:29 -0300 (BRT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:59:58 -0300 (BRT) From: Eduardo Damato X-X-Sender: To: Subject: [OFF] SRM Madness... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests= version=2.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I was trying to install Freebsd on another DS20 which aparently had a problem, so I redirected the SRM console to the Serial. set console serial This unfortunately hasnt helped, since the serial does not seem to be functioning. (I tried accessing the system with my notebooks and it didnt work) Now I am wondering if there is any way of resetting the SRM settings with any magic jumper of keystroke command. Does anyone have any clues for that?? Thanks guys Eduardo -- Eduardo Damato Analista de Redes - GRC Assessoria de Informแtica - UNESP email: damato@unesp.br fone: (11) 252-0577 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jun 26 8:22:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF4037B621 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5QFKwMa044816 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:21:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5QFKvFJ035768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:20:57 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5QFKv2T035767; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:20:57 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:20:56 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Eduardo Damato Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [OFF] SRM Madness... Message-ID: <20020626152056.GW99580@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:59:58AM -0300, Eduardo Damato wrote: > > Hi All, > > I was trying to install Freebsd on another DS20 which aparently had a > problem, so I redirected the SRM console to the Serial. > > set console serial you need to reset/init the box after changing the value. What does show console say? Tried to disconnect the keyboard? > This unfortunately hasnt helped, since the serial does not seem to be > functioning. (I tried accessing the system with my notebooks and it didnt > work) Now I am wondering if there is any way of resetting the SRM settings > with any magic jumper of keystroke command. Does anyone have any clues for > that?? You need to use a null-modem connection at 9600-8n1. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jun 26 8:42:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from qescan1.qgraph.com (QESCAN1.qgraph.com [206.158.124.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7EFCE37B9AD for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.168.200.28 by qescan1.qgraph.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:38:59 -0500 Received: by sxsmtp1.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:38:58 -0500 Message-ID: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E2614@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: "'ticso@cicely.de'" , Eduardo Damato Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: [OFF] SRM Madness... Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:38:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HALT will work as well, I *think* that defaults the SRM output to graphics temporarily, so then you can re-set the console output. -----Original Message----- From: Bernd Walter [mailto:ticso@cicely5.cicely.de] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:21 AM To: Eduardo Damato Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [OFF] SRM Madness... On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:59:58AM -0300, Eduardo Damato wrote: > > Hi All, > > I was trying to install Freebsd on another DS20 which aparently had a > problem, so I redirected the SRM console to the Serial. > > set console serial you need to reset/init the box after changing the value. What does show console say? Tried to disconnect the keyboard? > This unfortunately hasnt helped, since the serial does not seem to be > functioning. (I tried accessing the system with my notebooks and it didnt > work) Now I am wondering if there is any way of resetting the SRM settings > with any magic jumper of keystroke command. Does anyone have any clues for > that?? You need to use a null-modem connection at 9600-8n1. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jun 26 8:52:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx.unesp.br (armstrong.unesp.br [200.145.1.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B3837B84E for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Spamassassin Check (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.unesp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1520B5C2D8 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:51:56 -0300 (BRT) Received: from civitate.ai.unesp.br (civitate.ai.unesp.br [200.145.2.12]) by mx.unesp.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AD75C2D8 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:51:55 -0300 (BRT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:47:24 -0300 (BRT) From: Eduardo Damato X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: [OFF] SRM Madness... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=8.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HeHE As mad as it may sound, the keyboard works without echoing anything to the screen, so I pressed halt and typed set console graphics and suddenly the SRM prompt appeared on the screen... Problem solved. Thanks guys, Eduardo. On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Eduardo Damato wrote: > > Hi All, > > I was trying to install Freebsd on another DS20 which aparently had a > problem, so I redirected the SRM console to the Serial. > > set console serial > > This unfortunately hasnt helped, since the serial does not seem to be > functioning. (I tried accessing the system with my notebooks and it didnt > work) Now I am wondering if there is any way of resetting the SRM settings > with any magic jumper of keystroke command. Does anyone have any clues for > that?? > > Thanks guys > Eduardo > > -- Eduardo Damato Analista de Redes - GRC Assessoria de Informแtica - UNESP email: damato@unesp.br fone: (11) 252-0577 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jun 28 11:41:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B93137B40A for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.ksc.th.com (mail3.ksc.th.com [203.155.0.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265A243E13 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2002 11:40:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from easytoberich01@yahoo.com) Received: from ksc.th.com ([203.107.246.47]) by mail3.ksc.th.com (8.12.1/8.12.0) with SMTP id g5SIYRfa007846 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 01:40:49 +0700 Message-Id: <200206281840.g5SIYRfa007846@mail3.ksc.th.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 01:42:52 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org From: easytoberich01@yahoo.com (international e-business) Subject: สำหรับผู้ที่ต้องการโอกาสในการเปลี่ยนแปลงชีวิต Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org !!!!! 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Part-Time Job!! สำหรับนักเรียน นักศึกษา และผู้ทำงานประจำ คุณต้องการงานแบบนี้บ้างไหม…?? -งาน parttime ทำงานที่บ้านได้ ถ้าคุณใช้ Internet เป็น -ทำงานเพียงวันละ 2-3 ชม. -รายได้ 5,000 – 15,000 บาท ถ้าคุณเป็นคนหนึ่งที่ทำงานประจำหรือยังไม่มีงานทำ นักศึกษาที่กำลังศึกษาอยู่ ผู้ว่างงาน หรือผู้ที่ยังพอมีเวลาว่างจากงานประจำ มีคุณสมบัติเบื้องต้นดังนี้ 1. มีทัศนคติที่ดี 2. พร้อมที่จะเรียนรู้ เนื่องจากเป็นระบบใหม่จึงต้องให้มีการอบรมให้ตามความเหมาะสม 3. ต้องการที่จะทำงานอย่างจริงจัง อยากที่จะเปลี่ยนฐานะทางการเงินของตนเอง และอยากมีรายได้จากการทำงานตรงนี้จริงๆ ทุกอย่างเป็นไปได้ ใน http://www.geocities.com/getchances2000/ อย่า !…………….. เป็นแค่เพียงคนที่นั่งรอโอกาส To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jun 29 4:50:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72C137B409; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 04:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E007043E1A; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 04:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TBkfMa007951 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:46:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5TBkdFJ041064 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:46:40 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5TBkdZu041063; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:46:39 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:46:39 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: binary compatibility broken. Message-ID: <20020629114638.GE39063@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I noticed that most of my older binaries on a freebsd-alpha stopped working on a newer -current. I did not though much about it as they were compiled under an earlier -current. Now I found out that 4.x binaries don't work too. That's especialy bad as I run cvsup on that machine and modula has a 4.x bootstrap. The symptoms are mixed from assertion failure to segfaults. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jun 29 13:38:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BAF37B401; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE3443E09; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 13:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5TKcGMa012214 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:38:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5TKc7FJ065772 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:38:07 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id g5TKc7Do065771; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:38:07 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:38:06 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: False alarm (was: binary compatibility broken) Message-ID: <20020629203806.GD61992@cicely5.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <20020629114638.GE39063@cicely5.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020629114638.GE39063@cicely5.cicely.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely5.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 01:46:39PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > I noticed that most of my older binaries on a freebsd-alpha stopped > working on a newer -current. > I did not though much about it as they were compiled under an > earlier -current. > Now I found out that 4.x binaries don't work too. > That's especialy bad as I run cvsup on that machine and modula has > a 4.x bootstrap. > The symptoms are mixed from assertion failure to segfaults. It was related to a special kernel version. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jun 29 18:57:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4F037B400 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B15543E09 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 18:57:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA16173 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g5U1uuh19026; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:56:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15646.25960.889781.783159@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:56:56 -0400 (EDT) To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: gdb breaks world X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just found out that the new gdb import breaks world on alpha: main.o(.data+0x630): undefined reference to `kernel_writablecore' when linking gdb. If you're building a -current world on alpha, you may want to add NO_GDB=true to /etc/make.conf Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jun 29 19:35:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A73337B401 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D2A43E0A for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:35:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.4/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5U2ZEtL051215; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:35:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.5/8.12.4/Submit) id g5U2ZE84051214; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:35:14 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb breaks world Message-ID: <20020629193514.A51177@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Andrew Gallatin , alpha@freebsd.org References: <15646.25960.889781.783159@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15646.25960.889781.783159@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 09:56:56PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 09:56:56PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > I just found out that the new gdb import breaks world on alpha: > > main.o(.data+0x630): undefined reference to `kernel_writablecore' > > when linking gdb. BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG That's not the sound of JKH's toys, but my head on the desk. I'll fire up the DS10... let me guess it was gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/fbsd-kgdb.h revision 1.2. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jun 29 19:41:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902B537B400; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF25A43E0A; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 19:41:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16879; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g5U2fHr19098; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:41:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15646.28621.258621.69134@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 22:41:17 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdb breaks world In-Reply-To: <20020629193514.A51177@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <15646.25960.889781.783159@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20020629193514.A51177@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 09:56:56PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > I just found out that the new gdb import breaks world on alpha: > > > > main.o(.data+0x630): undefined reference to `kernel_writablecore' > > > > when linking gdb. > > BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG > BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG > BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG > BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG > BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG > BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG > BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG > BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG > > That's not the sound of JKH's toys, but my head on the desk. > I'll fire up the DS10... let me guess it was > gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/fbsd-kgdb.h revision 1.2. The symbol is #if defined (i386)'ed out, along with most of the rest of kvm-fbsd.c (1.37). It looks like the i386 version from i386/kvm-fbsd.c was copied & alpha/kvm-fbsd.c was left in the dust. I was going to look at why they needed to be different, but w/o an x86 -current box, that could be hard ;) Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jun 29 21:46:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DD437B400 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF0243E0A for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:46:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.4/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5U4kKtL069669; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.5/8.12.4/Submit) id g5U4kK7v069668; Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 21:46:20 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdb breaks world Message-ID: <20020629214620.A56685@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Andrew Gallatin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15646.25960.889781.783159@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20020629193514.A51177@dragon.nuxi.com> <15646.28621.258621.69134@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15646.28621.258621.69134@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 10:41:17PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 10:41:17PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > I just found out that the new gdb import breaks world on alpha: > > > main.o(.data+0x630): undefined reference to `kernel_writablecore' Ok, I just committed a "fix". Things compile, but kgdb probably isn't usable. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message