From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Oct 20 10:23:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EAE37B401; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 10:23:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8B643E75; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 10:23:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9KHNZFu056508; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 19:23:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9KHNTIk056503; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 19:23:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 19:23:29 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Scott Long Cc: scsi@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: alpha tinderbox failure Message-ID: <20021020192329.A56483@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20021019125916.A52382@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20021019142034.GA76694@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20021019142034.GA76694@hollin.btc.adaptec.com>; from scott_long@btc.adaptec.com on Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:20:34AM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:20:34AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 12:59:16PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > can ahd_pci please be fixed? > > > > Wilko > > Alpha is missing several bus.h functions that exist on every other > platform. If nobody is willing to fix that then ahd should probably > be removed from the alpha configs. Hm, is that related to the busdma stuff? I'm by no means an expert here.. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Oct 20 15:48: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0B537B401; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1894743E88; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:48:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26247; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g9KMlTd04612; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:47:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15795.12929.644655.273688@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:47:29 -0400 (EDT) To: scott_long@btc.adaptec.com Cc: scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FW: alpha tinderbox failure In-Reply-To: <20021020192329.A56483@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20021019125916.A52382@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20021019142034.GA76694@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> <20021020192329.A56483@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte writes: > On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 08:20:34AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 12:59:16PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > can ahd_pci please be fixed? > > > > > > Wilko > > > > Alpha is missing several bus.h functions that exist on every other > > platform. If nobody is willing to fix that then ahd should probably > > be removed from the alpha configs. I think sparc64 is bus_space_subregion too. > Hm, is that related to the busdma stuff? I'm by no means an expert here.. Yes. I just added a bus_space_subregion() for alpha, so now we're back down to printf format errors for things like sizeof(): cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev6 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../.. -I../../../dev -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common -fno-builtin -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev6 -ffreestanding -Werror ../../../dev/aic7xxx/aic79xx.c cc1: warnings being treated as errors ../../../dev/aic7xxx/aic79xx.c: In function `ahd_alloc': ../../../dev/aic7xxx/aic79xx.c:4208: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 3) ../../../dev/aic7xxx/aic79xx.c:4208: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 4) ../../../dev/aic7xxx/aic79xx.c: In function `ahd_init_scbdata': ../../../dev/aic7xxx/aic79xx.c:4601: warning: unsigned int format, different type arg (arg 3) *** Error code 1 I know you guys do all your work in p4, so I don't want to commit something to your drivers which will cause you conflicts. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 21 8:43:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70B037B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poptart.bithose.com (poptart.bithose.com [208.171.236.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A110343E42 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:43:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jakari@bithose.com) Received: from poptart.bithose.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by poptart.bithose.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9LFhW6K004363; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jakari@localhost) by poptart.bithose.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id g9LFhVO9004360; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:43:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: poptart.bithose.com: jakari owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:43:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Jameel Akari To: Josh Tolbert Cc: Subject: Re: Machine Check when booting dqa0? In-Reply-To: <20021019034319.S77134-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Josh Tolbert wrote: > All my drive problems went away when I used a different IDE cable. *blinks* I've tried at least a half-dozen cables. I haven't used a UDMA66 (80-conductor) cable because the CMD controller barely does UDMA/33, and I don't think that I need a cable-select cable. Same issue. I only get dqa0. If you can find another cable to test a second device with, I'd really like to know if it works or not. > The IDE performance on this PC164 leaves much to be desired. I'm > going to have to toss a SCSI card in this thing and just go SCSI. Indeed. I time it at 4.5MB/sec when forced to UDMA mode. NFS over a 100Mb network will be almost twice as fast. Incidentally, does anyone have a listing of third-party aftermarket SCSI controllers that get along with SRM? I've tried two different Symbios controllers, and neither is compatible enough to be functional. (Neither gives you dka* for disks; one lists as a NCR controller in show conf, the other is just a random PCI device number.) #!/jameel/akari for zig in $(find / -name zig); do rm -f "$zig"; done; export GREAT_JUSTICE=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 21 11: 7:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53EE37B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A81B43E3B for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:07:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9LI7R6K090697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:07:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9LI7QCu039703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:07:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9LI7P7N015401; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:07:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9LI7MHu015400; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:07:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:07:22 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Jameel Akari Cc: Josh Tolbert , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Machine Check when booting dqa0? Message-ID: <20021021180721.GO14571@cicely8.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <20021019034319.S77134-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Jameel Akari wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Josh Tolbert wrote: > > > All my drive problems went away when I used a different IDE cable. > > *blinks* I've tried at least a half-dozen cables. I haven't used > a UDMA66 (80-conductor) cable because the CMD controller barely does > UDMA/33, and I don't think that I need a cable-select cable. Same issue. > I only get dqa0. If you can find another cable to test a second device > with, I'd really like to know if it works or not. > > > The IDE performance on this PC164 leaves much to be desired. I'm > > going to have to toss a SCSI card in this thing and just go SCSI. > > Indeed. I time it at 4.5MB/sec when forced to UDMA mode. NFS > over a 100Mb network will be almost twice as fast. I'm seeing 13-14MB/s on my PC164 with the onboard controller. ad0: 98166MB [199450/16/63] at ata0-master tagged WDMA2 ad1: 98166MB [199450/16/63] at ata1-master tagged WDMA2 The machine is running -current, but I don't think this should make a factor 3 difference. > Incidentally, does anyone have a listing of third-party > aftermarket SCSI controllers that get along with SRM? I've tried two > different Symbios controllers, and neither is compatible enough to be > functional. (Neither gives you dka* for disks; one lists as a NCR > controller in show conf, the other is just a random PCI device number.) Oliver Lehmann has setup a webpage with tested controllers. http://www.pofo.de/alpha-boot/index.php?field=chipset -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 21 12:23:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930C237B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C7D43E6A for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:23:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [213.157.24.250] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.75 #2) id 183i8y-0005EY-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:23:16 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 0D5FF5B for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:23:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (jan-linux.lan [192.168.0.20]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 1E4F035 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:23:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: smbus on PWS From: Jan Lentfer To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Date: 21 Oct 2002 21:23:02 +0200 Message-Id: <1035228183.345.1.camel@jan-linux> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, does a PWS have something like smbus, anything to monitor cpu temperature, stuff like that? TIA, Jan -- Jan Lentfer System Administrator Molecular Cell Biology / AG Holstein, Darmstadt University of Technology, Schnittspahnstr. 10, 64287 Darmstadt, Germany Tel: +49 6151 16 5563 / Tel private: +49 6155 899393 / mobile: +49 163 4712037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 21 13:52:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B8F37B401; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28D243E4A; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gallatin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9LKqnx3011601; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9LKqnJe011597; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:52:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Gallatin Message-Id: <200210212052.g9LKqnJe011597@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rbyrnes@ozemail.com.au, gallatin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: alpha/41642: dhclient gives unaligned access on Alpha - causes kernel panic Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: dhclient gives unaligned access on Alpha - causes kernel panic State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: gallatin State-Changed-When: Mon Oct 21 13:52:22 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: This has been fixed (in current: if_ether 1.95 and stable: if_ether 1.64.2.20) and this fix has been confirmed by others on the freebsd-alpha mailing lists. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=41642 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 21 18:51:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0478B37B404 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (osh202-181.broadacre.com [66.54.202.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125B743E7B for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:51:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (localhost.scoundrelz.net [127.0.0.1]) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9M1oALL077769; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:50:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from localhost (hemi@localhost) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g9M1o9Hh077766; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:50:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: view.scoundrelz.net: hemi owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 20:50:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Josh Tolbert To: ticso@cicely.de Cc: Jameel Akari , Subject: Re: Machine Check when booting dqa0? In-Reply-To: <20021021180721.GO14571@cicely8.cicely.de> Message-ID: <20021021204615.P77597-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys, Has anyone else had problems getting a video card to work with X in a PC164? I've tried a cirrus logic PCI card, which X didn't even build a module for, and a Matrox Mystique MGA1064SG-based card. The Mystique changes to a video mode, displays some arbitrary graphics lines of different colors and locks the box solid. Any suggestions? Has anyone tested a cheap GeForce2 MX PCI card in their Alpha yet? I know I won't get any hardware acceleration, but lots of video RAM wouldn't be a bad thing. On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 11:43:31AM -0400, Jameel Akari wrote: > > > > On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Josh Tolbert wrote: > > > > > All my drive problems went away when I used a different IDE cable. > > > > *blinks* I've tried at least a half-dozen cables. I haven't used > > a UDMA66 (80-conductor) cable because the CMD controller barely does > > UDMA/33, and I don't think that I need a cable-select cable. Same issue. > > I only get dqa0. If you can find another cable to test a second device > > with, I'd really like to know if it works or not. > > I grabbed another cable. Both hard drives now show up (on the primary cable), but the (secondary master) CD-ROM doesn't show up in the SRM console. FreeBSD sees the CD-ROM just fine, however. > > > The IDE performance on this PC164 leaves much to be desired. I'm > > > going to have to toss a SCSI card in this thing and just go SCSI. > > > > Indeed. I time it at 4.5MB/sec when forced to UDMA mode. NFS > > over a 100Mb network will be almost twice as fast. > > I'm seeing 13-14MB/s on my PC164 with the onboard controller. > ad0: 98166MB [199450/16/63] at ata0-master tagged WDMA2 > ad1: 98166MB [199450/16/63] at ata1-master tagged WDMA2 > The machine is running -current, but I don't think this should make > a factor 3 difference. > > > Incidentally, does anyone have a listing of third-party > > aftermarket SCSI controllers that get along with SRM? I've tried two > > different Symbios controllers, and neither is compatible enough to be > > functional. (Neither gives you dka* for disks; one lists as a NCR > > controller in show conf, the other is just a random PCI device number.) > > Oliver Lehmann has setup a webpage with tested controllers. > http://www.pofo.de/alpha-boot/index.php?field=chipset > > -- > B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de > ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > Thanks, Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 21 19:29:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C8237B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C26D43E65 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:29:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [213.157.11.194] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.75 #2) id 183on0-000563-00 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:29:03 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id C291A295 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:29:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (jan-linux.lan [192.168.0.20]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 55F221FD for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:28:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Machine Check when booting dqa0? From: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20021021204615.P77597-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> References: <20021021204615.P77597-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Date: 22 Oct 2002 04:28:56 +0200 Message-Id: <1035253736.463.11.camel@jan-linux> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 03:50, Josh Tolbert wrote: > Hi guys, > Has anyone else had problems getting a video card to work with X > in a PC164? I've tried a cirrus logic PCI card, which X didn't even build > a module for, and a Matrox Mystique MGA1064SG-based card. The Mystique > changes to a video mode, displays some arbitrary graphics lines of > different colors and locks the box solid. Any suggestions? > Has anyone tested a cheap GeForce2 MX PCI card in their Alpha yet? > I know I won't get any hardware acceleration, but lots of video RAM > wouldn't be a bad thing. I had problems with a PWS 500a and a Matrox Millenium II (if I remember right). It just refused to work. I then used a 3Dlabs Oxygen VX1 (32MB, Glint chipset) which works pretty good. Just that sometimes I the colours switch.... like the Gnome blue becomes light brown. If I change to a another console (Ctrl+Alt+Fx) and go back to console 9 (X), everything is fine again. Anyone ever experienced something like that? Jan -- Jan Lentfer System Administrator Molecular Cell Biology / AG Holstein, Darmstadt University of Technology, Schnittspahnstr. 10, 64287 Darmstadt, Germany Tel: +49 6151 16 5563 / Tel private: +49 6155 899393 / mobile: +49 163 4712037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 21 19:30:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF72D37B401 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFF843E6E for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:30:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [213.157.11.194] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.75 #2) id 183ooM-00065r-00; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:30:26 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 4E9E5116; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:03:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (jan-linux.lan [192.168.0.20]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id C37C55B; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 04:03:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: Machine Check when booting dqa0? From: Jan Lentfer To: Josh Tolbert Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20021021204615.P77597-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> References: <20021021204615.P77597-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Date: 22 Oct 2002 04:02:59 +0200 Message-Id: <1035252183.345.8.camel@jan-linux> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 03:50, Josh Tolbert wrote: > Hi guys, > Has anyone else had problems getting a video card to work with X > in a PC164? I've tried a cirrus logic PCI card, which X didn't even build > a module for, and a Matrox Mystique MGA1064SG-based card. The Mystique > changes to a video mode, displays some arbitrary graphics lines of > different colors and locks the box solid. Any suggestions? > Has anyone tested a cheap GeForce2 MX PCI card in their Alpha yet? > I know I won't get any hardware acceleration, but lots of video RAM > wouldn't be a bad thing. I had problems with a PWS 500a and a Matrox Millenium II (if I remember right). It just refused to work. I then used a 3Dlabs Oxygen VX1 (32MB, Glint chipset) which works pretty good. Just that sometimes I the colours switch.... like the Gnome blue becomes light brown. If I change to a another console (Ctrl+Alt+Fx) and go back to console 9 (X), everything is fine again. Anyone ever experienced something like that? Jan -- Jan Lentfer System Administrator Molecular Cell Biology / AG Holstein, Darmstadt University of Technology, Schnittspahnstr. 10, 64287 Darmstadt, Germany Tel: +49 6151 16 5563 / Tel private: +49 6155 899393 / mobile: +49 163 4712037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 22 13:33:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC89037B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxzilla2.xs4all.nl (mxzilla2.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED85243E6E for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:33:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs1.xs4all.nl (xs1.xs4all.nl [194.109.3.11]) by mxzilla2.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9MKXhWQ005084; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:33:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by xs1.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g9MKXhH27233; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:33:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:33:43 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smbus on PWS Message-ID: <20021022203343.GA27009@xs4all.nl> References: <1035228183.345.1.camel@jan-linux> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1035228183.345.1.camel@jan-linux> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p19 X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Jan Lentfer wrote: > Hi all, > > does a PWS have something like smbus, anything to monitor cpu > temperature, stuff like that? Not that I have ever seen , no. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 22 23: 2:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E78D37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7AC43E6E for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g9N617e22972 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:31:07 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:32:22 +0930 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id PAA29635 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:26:12 +0930 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VKGPVVPJ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:26:12 +0930 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:12:55 +0930 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: ATA 100/133 controller recommedation Message-ID: <20021023151153.M10058-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy all, Can anyone recommend an ATA 100/133 controller that is known to work in a Alpha pws 500au ? Thanks - aW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Oct 23 1:49:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F3F37B688 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 01:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D333643E75 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 01:49:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9N8mwWQ032759 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:49:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9N8mvCu050575 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:48:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9N8mv7N020902; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:48:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9N8muoI020901; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:48:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:48:56 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: "Wilkinson,Alex" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATA 100/133 controller recommedation Message-ID: <20021023084855.GB14571@cicely8.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <20021023151153.M10058-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021023151153.M10058-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 03:12:55PM +0930, Wilkinson,Alex wrote: > > Howdy all, > > Can anyone recommend an ATA 100/133 controller that is known to work in > a Alpha pws 500au ? I blelieve you can't boot from an additional IDE controller, but in theory every controller should work in FreeBSD. As long as you don't need the controller BIOSs (e.g. for RAID configs) every card should work. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Oct 23 10: 6: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3690437B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net [198.65.168.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9519743E6E for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:06:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fclift@verio.net) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B97A3BF125 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net (vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.59]) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9NH5w321908 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:12:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Fred Clift X-X-Sender: To: Subject: debugging around machine-checks... Message-ID: <20021023110134.Q98807-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok -- I'm not terribly alpha proficitent - in fact, the one alpha that I run is just a home-server - little more than a toy (mp3 server, print server and relatively secure ssh enpoint from the outside world). Could someone explain exactly what is going on when a machine-check happens? Is this done by the machine firmware or something? It seems that FreeBSD is instantenously interrupted when a machine check happens and that I dont get crash-dumps. Some of you may recall that I've been playing around with XFree86 V4 on this box - it would be exceptionally helpful if I got usable crash-dumps instead of machine checks when things got wierd. As it is, debugging the X server is pretty much impossible (for me) because of this. What I've done is build all of the X distribution with debugging symbols in and then I start the X server from gdb and put in 10 break points near where I think things will be happening. Eventually, I get a machine check and if I'm lucky, I remember where the last breakpoint that I hit was so that after a reboot, I can kind of start back in that neighborhood. X is hard enough to debug by itself without this inconvienence. It seems that whatever is making it machine-check should be things that could be fixed in the kernel, at which point, my debugging of the X server could then continue.Then when X dumps core I can just restart X rather than wait for a reboot/fsck. Am I way off here? I seem to have read somewhere that there is something you can do to fend off machine-checks so that you can get a proper crash-dump? What is the mechanism that causes the checks and how bad would it be for the system to do something equivalent to maksing these events out (or whatever you'd do to get them to not happen?). Is there somewhere I can read about this? Fred -- Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Oct 23 10:23:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AC737B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7BB43E3B for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16889; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g9NHMf609265; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:22:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15798.56033.844389.549256@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 13:22:41 -0400 (EDT) To: Fred Clift Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: debugging around machine-checks... In-Reply-To: <20021023110134.Q98807-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> References: <20021023110134.Q98807-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fred Clift writes: > > Ok -- I'm not terribly alpha proficitent - in fact, the one alpha that I > run is just a home-server - little more than a toy (mp3 server, print > server and relatively secure ssh enpoint from the outside world). > > Could someone explain exactly what is going on when a machine-check > happens? Is this done by the machine firmware or something? It seems Yes. A machine check is the highest priority interrupt. It occurs when something seriously bad happens. Like an uncorrectable memory parity error, or a rogue application or kernel fondling device memory that does not belong to it. In fact, on older alphas, that's how we probe the PCI bus. We tell the machine check logic to expect a machine check, and to just clear it, rather crashing. We then read from a device which may not exist. If we get a machine check, then the device wasn't there. (see sys/alpha/alpha/interrupt.c:badaddr_read()). 21264s and newer are more forgiving about device memory -- they are like a PC, and will throw away writes to devices which don't exist, and return -1 for reads. > that FreeBSD is instantenously interrupted when a machine check happens > and that I dont get crash-dumps. Hmm.. I haven't used a machine check generating alpha in a while, but from the code in interrupt.c, it looks like it *should* give you a crashdump. > Some of you may recall that I've been playing around with XFree86 V4 on > this box - it would be exceptionally helpful if I got usable crash-dumps > instead of machine checks when things got wierd. As it is, debugging the > X server is pretty much impossible (for me) because of this. > > What I've done is build all of the X distribution with debugging symbols > in and then I start the X server from gdb and put in 10 break points near > where I think things will be happening. Eventually, I get a machine check > and if I'm lucky, I remember where the last breakpoint that I hit was so > that after a reboot, I can kind of start back in that neighborhood. Can't you use the program counter from the panic output as a start? If its in the X server, there should be a PC from userspace. (see disclaimer below) > X is hard enough to debug by itself without this inconvienence. It seems > that whatever is making it machine-check should be things that could be > fixed in the kernel, at which point, my debugging of the X server could > then continue.Then when X dumps core I can just restart X rather than wait > for a reboot/fsck. > > Am I way off here? I seem to have read somewhere that there is something > you can do to fend off machine-checks so that you can get a proper > crash-dump? What is the mechanism that causes the checks and how bad > would it be for the system to do something equivalent to maksing these > events out (or whatever you'd do to get them to not happen?). > Look at alpha/alpha/interrupt.c:badaddr_read(). If you're feeling really lucky, you could add code to send the appropriate signal (sigbus?) if the PC is in a userland app. The problem with this is that machine checks are somewhat asynchronous, and I'm not sure the PC at the time of the fault corresponds to the PC that actually caused the fault. (that's why there are so many memory barriers all over the pci probing and baddaddr code). Good luck. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Oct 23 11:29:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9487237B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net [198.65.168.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F71B43E42 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:29:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fclift@verio.net) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82AA3BF5A0 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:29:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net (vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.59]) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9NITM336918; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:29:22 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:35:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Fred Clift X-X-Sender: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Subject: Re: debugging around machine-checks... In-Reply-To: <15798.56033.844389.549256@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20021023113324.U98807-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > that FreeBSD is instantenously interrupted when a machine check happens > > and that I dont get crash-dumps. > > Hmm.. I haven't used a machine check generating alpha in a while, but > from the code in interrupt.c, it looks like it *should* give you a > crashdump. Perhaps I'm just clueless - I build my kernel with the option makeoptions DEBUG=-g (install, reboot) by hand I run dumpon -v /dev/da0b (which is my swap partition, twice what I have of ram in size) and then I do my fiddling with XFree86 that gives me the machine-check and I end up at the SRM prompt. At this point, I know that just booting will fail. I have to power-cycle the box and when it comes back up, savecore either doesn't find anything, or isn't being run by the rc scripts. Once I get a chance to log in /var/crash has only minfree in it... Should I be doing something else? I just looked in /var/log/mesages and saw no evidence of crashdumps being written (ie dumping to.... or dump 254 253 252 251... etc). > > Can't you use the program counter from the panic output as a start? > If its in the X server, there should be a PC from userspace. > (see disclaimer below) > So can you interpret this for me then - honestly I just dont know what all the fields represent -- I should probably just go read the source code and see :) Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: unexpected machine check: Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: mces = 0x1 Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: vector = 0x660 Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: param = 0xfffffc0000006068 Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: pc = 0x1604006ac Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: ra = 0x12006cb10 Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: curproc = 0xfffffe0009910200 Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: pid = 90765, comm = XFree86 Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: panic: machine check The program counter is pc? so I should be able to, with gdb and a debug-version of XFree86, figure out what code this is? > > > > Look at alpha/alpha/interrupt.c:badaddr_read(). > > If you're feeling really lucky, you could add code to send the > appropriate signal (sigbus?) if the PC is in a userland app. > > The problem with this is that machine checks are somewhat > asynchronous, and I'm not sure the PC at the time of the fault > corresponds to the PC that actually caused the fault. > (that's why there are so many memory barriers all over the pci probing > and baddaddr code). Your explanation is helpful, and perhaps I'll try your suggestion of turning userland machine checks into sigbus or something - I'm sure I'm just begging for trouble here, but at least this isn't a production machine that other people depend on :). To send a signal to a process from within the kernel, it seems I just call psignal(pid, signo) - is this right? Thanks very much for your information - looks like a little check in machine_check() in interrupt.c will do pretty much what I want - perhaps I'll make sure that my hack only works on processes who's name starts with 'X' or something just to be safe.... Fred -- Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Oct 23 12:34:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186BB37B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDDA43E3B for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:34:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9NJYG1e001009; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:34:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9NJYGxA001008; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:34:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:34:16 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Fred Clift , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: debugging around machine-checks... Message-ID: <20021023213416.B939@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20021023110134.Q98807-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> <15798.56033.844389.549256@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15798.56033.844389.549256@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:22:41PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:22:41PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Fred Clift writes: > > > > Ok -- I'm not terribly alpha proficitent - in fact, the one alpha that I > > run is just a home-server - little more than a toy (mp3 server, print > > server and relatively secure ssh enpoint from the outside world). > > > > Could someone explain exactly what is going on when a machine-check > > happens? Is this done by the machine firmware or something? It seems > > Yes. > > A machine check is the highest priority interrupt. It occurs when > something seriously bad happens. Like an uncorrectable memory parity > error, or a rogue application or kernel fondling device memory that Make that: uncorrectable ECC memory error. As a side note: they can also occur due to a bad CPU (I once had that), insufficient CPU cooling, flakey power supply. An environmental check is therefore recommended if you see them on a given FreeBSD code version where other people / different hardware does not see them. Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Oct 23 14:53:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3D837B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (osh202-181.broadacre.com [66.54.202.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E4F43E6E for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:53:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (localhost.scoundrelz.net [127.0.0.1]) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9NLqvkx034706 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:52:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from localhost (hemi@localhost) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g9NLqujD034703 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:52:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: view.scoundrelz.net: hemi owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:52:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Josh Tolbert To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: XFree problems Message-ID: <20021023164143.C34356-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, What video cards are known to work with X 4.2.1 under FreeBSD/alpha? I've tried a S3 Trio64V+, a Matrox Mystique 1064SG and a Cirrus Logic "Laguna" board, all to no avail. The Matrox and S3 cards change to a video mode, display some strange graphics and then lock the machine solid. After searching, I find messages about "noint10," but I have not seen any changes adding that option to the video card "Device" section in my /etc/X11/XF86Config. If people send me the hardware platform, video card make/model, the version of FreeBSD, the version of X and any special notes/changes that had to be made to XF86Config or any other relevant info about working cards I would be happy to maintain a webpage of the aforementioned data. Thanks, Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Oct 23 22:21:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB7837B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta09.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta09.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C582C43E77 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:21:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbyrnes@ozemail.com.au) Received: from ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au ([203.166.67.234]) by mta09.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20021024052137.UQBE1061.mta09.mail.mel.aone.net.au@ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au>; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:21:37 +1000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20021024151654.00ac1d90@pop.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: rbyrnes@pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:21:20 +1000 To: Josh Tolbert , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org From: Rob B Subject: Re: XFree problems In-Reply-To: <20021023164143.C34356-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 16:52 23/10/2002 -0500, Josh Tolbert wrote: >Hi, > What video cards are known to work with X 4.2.1 under >FreeBSD/alpha? I've tried a S3 Trio64V+, a Matrox Mystique 1064SG and a >Cirrus Logic "Laguna" board, all to no avail. The Matrox and S3 cards >change to a video mode, display some strange graphics and then lock the >machine solid. After searching, I find messages about "noint10," but I >have not seen any changes adding that option to the video card "Device" >section in my /etc/X11/XF86Config. > If people send me the hardware platform, video card make/model, >the version of FreeBSD, the version of X and any special notes/changes >that had to be made to XF86Config or any other relevant info about working >cards I would be happy to maintain a webpage of the aforementioned data. There are already pages around with this sort of data, albeit not FreeBSD specific. The Hardware database at http://www.linuxalpha.org shows what cards work with what system (and SRM version), as does a page here http://moon.hanya-n.org/comp/alpha/hct/graphics.html My Miata runs X fine with a Matrox Millenium cheers, Rob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Oct 24 10:41: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE47537B401; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AE943E65; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:41:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9OHeRj29261; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.0.52]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16842; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.100.253.70] (aslan [10.100.253.70]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06845; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:40:23 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:40:24 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Reply-To: "Justin T. Gibbs" To: Andrew Gallatin , scott_long@btc.adaptec.com Cc: scsi@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: alpha tinderbox failure Message-ID: <975620000.1035481224@aslan.btc.adaptec.com> In-Reply-To: <15795.12929.644655.273688@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <20021019125916.A52382@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20021019142034.GA76694@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> <20021020192329.A56483@freebie.xs4all.nl> <15795.12929.644655.273688@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.0a4 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Yes. I just added a bus_space_subregion() for alpha, so now we're > back down to printf format errors for things like sizeof(): Sorry. I haven't checked my FreeBSD-scsi mail for too long... What is the type of sizeof() on the alpha? What is the correct fix here? -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Oct 24 10:49:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D207237B401; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC5B43E3B; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:49:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17344; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:49:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g9OHmfu10937; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:48:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15800.12921.27041.896819@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:48:41 -0400 (EDT) To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: scott_long@btc.adaptec.com, scsi@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: alpha tinderbox failure In-Reply-To: <975620000.1035481224@aslan.btc.adaptec.com> References: <20021019125916.A52382@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20021019142034.GA76694@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> <20021020192329.A56483@freebie.xs4all.nl> <15795.12929.644655.273688@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <975620000.1035481224@aslan.btc.adaptec.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Justin T. Gibbs writes: > > Yes. I just added a bus_space_subregion() for alpha, so now we're > > back down to printf format errors for things like sizeof(): > > Sorry. I haven't checked my FreeBSD-scsi mail for too long... > > What is the type of sizeof() on the alpha? What is the correct fix > here? There was a move afoot to make the kernel printf() accept %z like userland printf, but it seemed to die out. I'd just cast to an unsigned long and use "%ld" as a format string. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Oct 24 11:47:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7BA37B401; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp07.wxs.nl (smtp07.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A5043E65; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:47:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbeis@wxs.nl) Received: from yokozuna.bsd ([213.10.35.60]) by smtp07.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4I1JK00.W5W; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:47:44 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:47:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: FreeBSD questions mailing list , FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: Prpblems installing 4.7-RELEASE Message-ID: Homepage: FreeBSD: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying to install 4.7-RELEASE from an FTP-server. When most of the system is installed (after when the ports are installed in /usr), sysinstall suddenly says that it cannot find the INDEX-file from the selected media type, when it tries to install the packages. Sysinstall quits and returns to the main menu. After that I tried to "perform any pending extract actions" (in Custom Installation Options), but then it says it cannot resolve ftp.freebsd.org, but a moment before it worked fine! Does anyone knows how to install from here? Marco -- Human beings were created by water to transport it uphill. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Oct 24 11:51:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB5B37B401 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail17.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2DC43E4A for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 32261 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2002 18:51:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail17.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 24 Oct 2002 18:51:51 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9OIphn5071888; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:51:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:51:47 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Marco Beishuizen Subject: RE: Prpblems installing 4.7-RELEASE Cc: FreeBSD alpha mailing list Cc: FreeBSD alpha mailing list , FreeBSD questions mailing list Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 24-Oct-2002 Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to install 4.7-RELEASE from an FTP-server. When most of the > system is installed (after when the ports are installed in /usr), > sysinstall suddenly says that it cannot find the INDEX-file from the > selected media type, when it tries to install the packages. Sysinstall > quits and returns to the main menu. After that I tried to "perform any > pending extract actions" (in Custom Installation Options), but then it > says it cannot resolve ftp.freebsd.org, but a moment before it worked > fine! > > Does anyone knows how to install from here? Ok, I guess when the alpha 4.7 packages were uploaded, no one put the packages symlink in the 4.7 release directory. I've just fixed it on ftp-master and it should propagate out to other ftp servers in a few hours. This should fix the problem with no INDEX file. Sorry for the delay. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Oct 24 12: 1:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A433737B401 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B26443E6A for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:01:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21309; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g9OJ0x311005; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:00:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15800.17259.397652.862956@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:00:59 -0400 (EDT) To: Fred Clift Cc: Subject: Re: debugging around machine-checks... In-Reply-To: <20021023113324.U98807-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> References: <15798.56033.844389.549256@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20021023113324.U98807-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fred Clift writes: > by hand I run dumpon -v /dev/da0b (which is my swap partition, twice what > I have of ram in size) > > and then I do my fiddling with XFree86 that gives me the machine-check and > I end up at the SRM prompt. At this point, I know that just booting will > fail. I have to power-cycle the box and when it comes back up, savecore > either doesn't find anything, or isn't being run by the rc scripts. Once > I get a chance to log in /var/crash has only minfree in it... > That *should* work.. > Should I be doing something else? > > I just looked in /var/log/mesages and saw no evidence of crashdumps being > written (ie dumping to.... or dump 254 253 252 251... etc). If you powercyle, the message buffer is lost. When I would crash X on an old miata, 1/2 the time I'd get a 'machine check in pal mode' -- this doesn't even get caught by the OS. However, if you're seeing the message below, I do not understand why you're not getting a crashdump. In any case, since the problem is probably with the X server (based on the mesage below), a crashdump would not help you. > > > > > Can't you use the program counter from the panic output as a start? > > If its in the X server, there should be a PC from userspace. > > (see disclaimer below) > > > > So can you interpret this for me then - honestly I just dont know what all > the fields represent -- I should probably just go read the source code and > see :) > > Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: unexpected machine check: > Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: > Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: mces = 0x1 > Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: vector = 0x660 > Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: param = 0xfffffc0000006068 > Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: pc = 0x1604006ac > Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: ra = 0x12006cb10 > Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: curproc = 0xfffffe0009910200 > Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: pid = 90765, comm = XFree86 > Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: > Oct 8 06:42:24 liron /kernel: panic: machine check > > > The program counter is pc? so I should be able to, with gdb and a > debug-version of XFree86, figure out what code this is? Yes, except its in a shared lib, or other dynamically loaded text. I don't know how you could debug that without a cordump. The ra (return address) is at least somewhere in the main text of the program (not a shared lib). <...> > Your explanation is helpful, and perhaps I'll try your suggestion of > turning userland machine checks into sigbus or something - I'm sure I'm > just begging for trouble here, but at least this isn't a production > machine that other people depend on :). > > To send a signal to a process from within the kernel, it seems I just call > > psignal(pid, signo) > > - is this right? > More or less. I think trapsignal may be more correct. > Thanks very much for your information - looks like a little check in > machine_check() in interrupt.c will do pretty much what I want - perhaps > I'll make sure that my hack only works on processes who's name starts > with 'X' or something just to be safe.... Good luck to you!! Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Oct 24 19:13: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1617337B401 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFA343E42 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:12:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g9P2B7e12623 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:41:07 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:42:35 +0930 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id LAA30578 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:38:00 +0930 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VKGPXNC6; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:38:31 +0930 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:24:43 +0930 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: snapshots.jp.freebsd.org [ISO's broken] Message-ID: <20021025093606.U64214-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy all, Just thought I'd let you know that the latest Alpha snapshot for -CURRENT on http://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org is broken. ftp://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/current.iso ftp://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/cdboot-current.iso Are just 2 examples. Problems: Can't boot off of cdrom Can't boot off of floppies (kern.flp and mfsroot.flp) I had to use 5.0DP1 to install and cvsup etc - aW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Oct 25 4:30:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F90E37B401 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 04:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC3543E42 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 04:30:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 1852fZ-000523-01; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:30:25 +0200 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9PB9X5T016740 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:09:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9PB9XIM016739 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:09:33 +0200 (CEST) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: XFree problems Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20021023164143.C34356-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Josh Tolbert wrote: > What video cards are known to work with X 4.2.1 under > FreeBSD/alpha? I've tried a S3 Trio64V+, a Matrox Mystique 1064SG and a > Cirrus Logic "Laguna" board, all to no avail. The display I'm looking at while typing this is provided by XFree86 4.2.1 on FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT/alpha running on a PC164 and this card: (--) PCI:*(0:7:0) Matrox MGA 1064SG rev 3, Mem @ 0x88000000/23, 0x82830000/14, 0x82000000/23, BIOS @ 0x82800000/16 There's nothing special about my XF86Config. I created it with xf86config and later trimmed it manually. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Oct 25 19: 1: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBBD37B401 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (osh202-181.broadacre.com [66.54.202.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA2143E42 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (localhost.scoundrelz.net [127.0.0.1]) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9Q20nkx006878; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:00:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from localhost (hemi@localhost) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g9Q20n3q006875; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:00:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: view.scoundrelz.net: hemi owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:00:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Josh Tolbert To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021025204416.H6450-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Christian, I think I've narrowed down the problems I'm having. pci0: at 6.0 irq 0 Why is my video card wanting to use IRQ 0? Is there some hardware config I'm missing? According to the PC164 manual, IRQ 0 is the internal clock interrupt. dmesg shows this error: unexpected machine check: mces = 0x1 vector = 0x660 param = 0xfffffc0000006060 pc = 0x12006c740 ra = 0x12063f0fc curproc = 0xfffffe00059e9280 pid = 129, comm = XFree86 panic: machine check The pciconf -lv output for the card is: none0@pci0:6:0: class=0x030000 card=0xffffffff chip=0x051a102b rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Matrox Graphics Inc' device = 'MGA 1064SG Hurricane/Cyclone 64-bit graphics chip' class = display subclass = VGA Any other ideas? Thanks, Josh On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Josh Tolbert wrote: > > > What video cards are known to work with X 4.2.1 under > > FreeBSD/alpha? I've tried a S3 Trio64V+, a Matrox Mystique 1064SG and a > > Cirrus Logic "Laguna" board, all to no avail. > > The display I'm looking at while typing this is provided by XFree86 > 4.2.1 on FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT/alpha running on a PC164 and this card: > > (--) PCI:*(0:7:0) Matrox MGA 1064SG rev 3, Mem @ 0x88000000/23, 0x82830000/14, 0x82000000/23, BIOS @ 0x82800000/16 > > There's nothing special about my XF86Config. I created it with > xf86config and later trimmed it manually. > > -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Oct 25 19:19:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF4337B401 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from poptart.bithose.com (poptart.bithose.com [208.171.236.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE00243E3B for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:19:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jakari@bithose.com) Received: from poptart.bithose.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by poptart.bithose.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9Q2Io6K009900; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jakari@localhost) by poptart.bithose.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id g9Q2Io0E009898; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:18:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: poptart.bithose.com: jakari owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:18:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Jameel Akari To: Josh Tolbert Cc: Christian Weisgerber , Subject: Re: XFree problems In-Reply-To: <20021025204416.H6450-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Josh Tolbert wrote: > pci0: at 6.0 irq 0 That IRQ 0 is probably what's killing it. I *just* finished a working XFree86 config on my PC164, which happens to have the same MGA card you have. (At least the ID strings match.) On my machine, I have it in the 2nd 32-bit PCI slot and it shows as "at 5.0 irq 2" Granted if you do "Xfree86 -configure" it will still machine check, but of course this is not unexpected. Oops. (What was that a few days ago about Alphas not liking to have thir address space blindly groped at.. ;) ) Since the Matrox has no other jumpers, only thing I'd suggest is to try the 2nd 32-bit slot, where it works for me. Somewhat unrelated, but when I fire up this card in X, there is some bizarre distortion of vertical lines and of text inside xterms. The window borders look something like: +------------- | | | #some text here | | #more text here | ...and the text is "wiggly" in the same manner. Any ideas? #!/jameel/akari for zig in $(find / -name zig); do rm -f "$zig"; done; export GREAT_JUSTICE=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Oct 25 19:58:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A6237B401 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (osh202-181.broadacre.com [66.54.202.181]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D759A43E42 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:58:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from view.scoundrelz.net (localhost.scoundrelz.net [127.0.0.1]) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9Q2w7kx008369; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:58:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hemi@scoundrelz.net) Received: from localhost (hemi@localhost) by view.scoundrelz.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g9Q2w7Ef008366; Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:58:07 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: view.scoundrelz.net: hemi owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:58:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Josh Tolbert To: Jameel Akari Cc: Christian Weisgerber , Subject: Re: XFree problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021025215459.K7533-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Jameel, Well, there's good news and there's bad news... Let's start with the good news: pci0: at 5.0 irq 2 The card isn't on IRQ 0 any more. The bad news is it still does the exact same thing. I think I'm just going to dig around for a new card. Thanks, Josh On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Jameel Akari wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Josh Tolbert wrote: > > > pci0: at 6.0 irq 0 > > That IRQ 0 is probably what's killing it. I *just* finished a > working XFree86 config on my PC164, which happens to have the same MGA card > you have. (At least the ID strings match.) On my machine, I have it in > the 2nd 32-bit PCI slot and it shows as "at 5.0 irq 2" > > Granted if you do "Xfree86 -configure" it will still machine > check, but of course this is not unexpected. Oops. (What was that a few > days ago about Alphas not liking to have thir address space blindly groped > at.. ;) ) > > Since the Matrox has no other jumpers, only thing I'd suggest is > to try the 2nd 32-bit slot, where it works for me. > > Somewhat unrelated, but when I fire up this card in X, there is > some bizarre distortion of vertical lines and of text inside xterms. The > window borders look something like: > > +------------- > | > | > | #some text here > | > | #more text here > | > ...and the text is "wiggly" in the same manner. Any ideas? > > #!/jameel/akari > for zig in $(find / -name zig); do > rm -f "$zig"; done; export GREAT_JUSTICE=1 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Oct 26 2:55:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE61137B401 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C3043E6E for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 02:55:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9Q9t9WQ006893 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:55:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9Q9t8Cu090170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:55:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9Q9t8l8003539; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:55:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9Q9t4SL003538; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:55:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:55:04 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Josh Tolbert Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree problems Message-ID: <20021026095504.GC592@cicely8.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <20021025204416.H6450-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021025204416.H6450-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 09:00:48PM -0500, Josh Tolbert wrote: > Hi Christian, > I think I've narrowed down the problems I'm having. > > pci0: at 6.0 irq 0 PCI IRQ 0 is perfectly legal. > Why is my video card wanting to use IRQ 0? Is there some hardware config > I'm missing? According to the PC164 manual, IRQ 0 is the internal clock > interrupt. What you mean is the internal timer 1 on ISA IRQ 0. The PC164 has 16 intlines specially dedicated for the 4 PCI slot. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Oct 26 4:30:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4042637B401 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FC443E3B for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:30:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 185P9V-0004gK-00; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:30:49 +0200 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9QBNT5T037368 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:23:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9QBNTKP037367 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:23:29 +0200 (CEST) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: XFree problems Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20021025204416.H6450-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> <20021026095504.GC592@cicely8.cicely.de> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter wrote: > > pci0: at 6.0 irq 0 > PCI IRQ 0 is perfectly legal. In fact, in my box it's used by the main SCSI adapter. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Oct 26 5:30:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEA937B401 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 05:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D87E43E4A for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 05:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 185Q5f-0000GA-00; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:30:55 +0200 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9QBU95T037453 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:30:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9QBU8hC037452 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:30:08 +0200 (CEST) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: XFree problems Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20021025204416.H6450-100000@view.scoundrelz.net> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jameel Akari wrote: > > pci0: at 6.0 irq 0 > > Somewhat unrelated, but when I fire up this card in X, there is > some bizarre distortion of vertical lines and of text inside xterms. The > window borders look something like: Er, yes, I've seen that as well. I think that stopped when I switched from a manually provided, "optimized" mode line to allowing the X server to come up with a video mode on its own according to resolution, monitor bandwidth, ec. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message