From owner-freebsd-chat Sun May 19 0:37:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B9537B405 for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 00:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool0049.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.49] helo=mindspring.com) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 179LFr-0006X1-00; Sun, 19 May 2002 00:37:24 -0700 Message-ID: <3CE75614.25A740B6@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 00:36:52 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Knowles Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Miguel Mendez , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The road ahead? References: <20020516004909.A9808@daemon.tisys.org> <20020516151801.A47974@energyhq.homeip.net> <20020516172853.A7750@daemon.tisys.org> <3CE40759.7C584101@mindspring.com> <20020516220616.A51305@energyhq.homeip.net> <3CE43D08.1FDBF0A3@mindspring.com> <20020517163624.GB9697@hades.hell.gr> <3CE58F73.1A7F50AF@mindspring.com> <3CE5B62B.2B26239B@mindspring.com> <3CE6F154.989966DD@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brad Knowles wrote: > >> Again, I disagree. If you want to turn it off, you can use the > >> software. If the software doesn't work, you can unplug it. > > > > And if the software *does* work... 8-)... how do I turn it back > > on? > > Unplug it and then plug it back in. Now you are just dancing... > > There's a really simple equation here: > > > > "Lights blinking" == "Costing me money" > > Employees don't think about this. Maybe managers do, but > employees don't. Trust me, we had a "monitors off" policy at Skynet, > a big sign on the the door that said "Did you turn off your > monitor?", etc.... And no one ever did. > > My wife's company has the same policy, and they don't do it > either. Whenever we go in on the weekends, I usually spend ten or > fifteen minutes going around the office and turning off all the > monitors -- the ones that have been on since Friday. 8-). You are the guy who turns off the box, and then complains when the email bounces because your box is unreachable. 8-). > > One real problem we had with InterJets was that people would > > actually turn them off every night before leaving the office. It > > was because of the lights. > > You definitely need a way to turn off the LCD, while leaving the > rest of the system in a "sleep" mode. Yes. I tried to communicate this for almost 3 years. It doesn't even matter if the thing really sleeps, so long as it pretends to. > > > Linux: demand the source code. Most likely, they are using one > > of the LCDs referenced at "linux1u" anyway (serial or parallel > > commodity LCY; my bet would be on serial). > > Asking for the source code doesn't help me if I'm not a > programmer, and if I can't then contribute the code back to the > FreeBSD project. That's OK. I happen to know you're a programmer, and good enough to use the code they give you as a reference, rather than porting it directly, so it could come right back to the project. 8-). > >> If I'm going to be forced to go the retro-fit route anyway, then > >> I might as well buy a Qube. > > > > Have fun porting to MIPS. > > The Qube runs MIPS? I thought it was an x86 architecture? I > know that some of the older 1U hardware was based on MIPS, but I > thought that they had used a different architecture for the Qube. > > Okay, so I run NetBSD instead. I'd prefer FreeBSD, but if I have > no choice, then so be it. Depends on the Qube. The Qube 3 is x86. This is really surprising, since I know one of the reasons Sun wanted an Internet appliance company was to start shipping 2xIPC form factor boxes. They tried to convince Whistle to do that. I guess with a Qube, it's open enough to user applications (another difference about the InterJet) that Intel compatability becomes more important. It'd probably be pretty easy to hack the front panel, etc., in the Cobalt devices, if you really wanted to. Actually, I wonder if you could maybe get an e.go (Encanto) box; it was definitely FreeBSD based. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message