From owner-freebsd-config Sun Sep 29 23:10: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4191D37B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF3D43E42 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from remaker@sbcglobal.net) Received: from sbcglobal.net (adsl-64-175-34-174.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [64.175.34.174]) by pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8U69x0N064978 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 02:09:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3D97EB29.2010207@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:11:53 -0700 From: Phillip Remaker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc3) Gecko/20020607 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: xmms missing form /stand/sysinstall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I made the jump to FreeBSD. It has been a few years since I made a serious run at a FreeBSD install, and this weekend I got two systems up. With Audio, even. The installer /stand/sysinstall has come a LONG way, congratulations. 4.6 installed from the mini-iso is a treat. I was surprised to see that XMMS was NOT in the audio packages section, but alot of XMMS related tools were. So I tried to install the tools, figuring XMMS would be picked up as a dependency. No luck, cryptic errors. I ended up manually locating the package and running pkg_add. The package name was ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-stable/packages/audio/xmms-1.2.7_2.tgz So I'm GUESSING that the underscore gives sysinstall heartburn? Pardon me for not digging into the source 8-( but I figure comeone on the list might care. Point me elsewhere of appropriate. Another question for the maintainers of sysinstall: How about CACHING the INDEX when retreived over the network? I had do download the same index dozens of times, and I think a local copy is in order, even if it only has a 15 minute lifetime, with a user option to refresh from the net if needed. I *know* that real FReeBSD users don't use sysinstall, but I like it and I think it is a good vehicle to get newbies into a real OS. I suppose I could also talk abotu ranking the packages, so that popular packages are maked more prominently, but I suppose that would run afoul of the democratic principles engendered by the FreeBSD project. Thanks for listening, and thanks for the OS. Pointers, redirects, etc welcomed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-config" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-config Sun Sep 29 23:43:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5808837B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 72oot.net (72oot.net [216.122.237.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25DC43E42 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:43:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freedom@72oot.net) Received: from 72oot.net ([12.242.138.4]) by 72oot.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g8U6jex15633; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 06:45:40 GMT (envelope-from freedom@72oot.net) Message-ID: <3D979074.7060300@72oot.net> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:44:52 +0000 From: Ryan Merrick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc3) Gecko/20020703 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phillip Remaker Cc: freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xmms missing form /stand/sysinstall References: <3D97EB29.2010207@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Phillip Remaker wrote: > > Well, I made the jump to FreeBSD. It has been a few years since I made > a serious run at a FreeBSD install, and this weekend I got two systems > up. With Audio, even. The installer /stand/sysinstall has come a LONG > way, congratulations. 4.6 installed from the mini-iso is a treat. > > I was surprised to see that XMMS was NOT in the audio packages section, > but alot of XMMS related tools were. So I tried to install the tools, > figuring XMMS would be picked up as a dependency. No luck, cryptic errors. > > I ended up manually locating the package and running pkg_add. The > package name was > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-stable/packages/audio/xmms-1.2.7_2.tgz > > > So I'm GUESSING that the underscore gives sysinstall heartburn? Pardon > me for not digging into the source 8-( but I figure comeone on the list > might care. Point me elsewhere of appropriate. Try #/usr/ports/audio/xmms . You did install ports. ? > > Another question for the maintainers of sysinstall: How about CACHING > the INDEX when retreived over the network? I had do download the same > index dozens of times, and I think a local copy is in order, even if it > only has a 15 minute lifetime, with a user option to refresh from the > net if needed. > > I *know* that real FReeBSD users don't use sysinstall, but I like it and > I think it is a good vehicle to get newbies into a real OS. > > I suppose I could also talk abotu ranking the packages, so that popular > packages are maked more prominently, but I suppose that would run afoul > of the democratic principles engendered by the FreeBSD project. > > Thanks for listening, and thanks for the OS. Pointers, redirects, etc > welcomed. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-config" in the body of the message Ryan Merrick freedom@72oot.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-config" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-config Sun Sep 29 23:44: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E70637B404 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED2643E42 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:43:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 28DF666B79; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:43:56 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Phillip Remaker Cc: freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xmms missing form /stand/sysinstall Message-ID: <20020930064356.GA50215@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3D97EB29.2010207@sbcglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D97EB29.2010207@sbcglobal.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 11:11:53PM -0700, Phillip Remaker wrote: > I was surprised to see that XMMS was NOT in the audio packages section,= =20 > but alot of XMMS related tools were. So I tried to install the tools,= =20 > figuring XMMS would be picked up as a dependency. No luck, cryptic error= s. Not sure why this is..you didnt mention what release. Perhaps the port wasn't buildable at the time of release. > I ended up manually locating the package and running pkg_add. The=20 > package name was >=20 > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-stable/packages/audio/xmms= -1.2.7_2.tgz >=20 > So I'm GUESSING that the underscore gives sysinstall heartburn? Pardon= =20 > me for not digging into the source 8-( but I figure comeone on the list= =20 > might care. Point me elsewhere of appropriate. No, it's certainly not the '_' (that's part of the version number). > Another question for the maintainers of sysinstall: How about CACHING=20 > the INDEX when retreived over the network? I had do download the same=20 > index dozens of times, and I think a local copy is in order, even if it= =20 > only has a 15 minute lifetime, with a user option to refresh from the=20 > net if needed. sysinstall is designed to be used from floppy..there's no space to store it then. I don't know if it could be done different in other cases. Kris --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9l/KsWry0BWjoQKURAuylAKD8s6tex/eWQkOLRCRWsP9dmj8jzACfUNla FSBlnmVug85J1sLpR2iV27A= =FKzH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-config" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-config Mon Sep 30 1:33:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5083137B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28A743E4A for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:33:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from remaker@sbcglobal.net) Received: from premakerpc (adsl-64-175-34-174.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [64.175.34.174]) by pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with SMTP id g8U8Xj0P328332; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 04:33:47 -0400 Message-ID: <007d01c2685c$5cf5fca0$667ba8c0@cisco.com> From: "Phillip Remaker" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: References: <3D97EB29.2010207@sbcglobal.net> <20020930064356.GA50215@xor.obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: xmms missing form /stand/sysinstall Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:30:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The sysinstall was the one included in the 4.6 mini-iso, but it was using ftp to retrieve the most current packages from ftp.freebsd.org. I'm not sure where it looks, but I assumed it was ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-stable/packages. Unless it retreives a TGZ file from someplace, and that TGZ is missing the xmms for whatever reason. Might just be a glitch in time, but I haven't deconstructed exactly how sysinstall works. I suppose I need to RTFSC. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-config" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-config Mon Sep 30 1:33:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4907937B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F1143E6A for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:33:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from remaker@sbcglobal.net) Received: from premakerpc (adsl-64-175-34-174.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [64.175.34.174]) by pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with SMTP id g8U8Xj0N328332; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 04:33:46 -0400 Message-ID: <007c01c2685c$5c668de0$667ba8c0@cisco.com> From: "Phillip Remaker" To: "Ryan Merrick" Cc: References: <3D97EB29.2010207@sbcglobal.net> <3D979074.7060300@72oot.net> Subject: Re: xmms missing form /stand/sysinstall Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:24:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Try #/usr/ports/audio/xmms . You did install ports. ? Yes, but being a lazy sod, I like to use packages. 8-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-config" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-config Wed Oct 2 15:37: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E35C37B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f102.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.37.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0320D43E6A for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:37:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from howcanthisbe300@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:37:01 -0700 Received: from 217.229.75.71 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 22:37:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.229.75.71] From: "How Can ThisBe" To: freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Update script Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 22:37:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2002 22:37:01.0910 (UTC) FILETIME=[39D17F60:01C26A64] Sender: owner-freebsd-config@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been working on a script for a while now that can be used to bring a FreeBSD install (4.5 or newer) in-line with the current cvs version of the users choice. This 'script' uses the suggested cvsup system for updating the ports and src files, then begins the entire update process including recompiling the kernel and/or a custom kernel. The current process and documentation is great for the cvsup system, however the script simplifies a lot of it and guides the user through it all. There are many configuration options along the way and the script (I feel) is very usable for an experienced user or a totally newbie that 'just installed FreeBSD to have a look'. I guess I'm really looking for feedback and ways to improve the script. questions@ is not really the right list and hackers@ does not seem right either. This list is not correct either but the script is configuration based. The script can downloaded from: http://telia.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/lvl/update.tar.gz The cvs files are here: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/lvl/update/ A web page with links and info is here: http://lvl.sourceforge.net/update.php Thanks heaps for your time. -Tig _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-config" in the body of the message