From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 2:50:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2258C37B404; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 02:50:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0DAfuE84662; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 02:41:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 02:41:56 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201131041.g0DAfuE84662@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33271: build of the web site not make obj save Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: build of the web site not make obj save Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phantom Responsible-Changed-By: wosch Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Jan 13 02:40:30 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: phantom is the maintainer of the russian web pages http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33271 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 8:30: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3E337B41C for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 08:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0DGU2v30873; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 08:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 08:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201131630.g0DGU2v30873@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Tim J. Robbins" Subject: Re: docs/28699 Reply-To: "Tim J. Robbins" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/28699; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Tim J. Robbins" To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Subject: Re: docs/28699 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 03:01:26 +1100 strptime(3) does not accept "a space followed by a single digit" for %d. It chews off up to 2 digits and uses them. It doesn't do anything about whitespace. tim@raven$ date -j -f "%d" " 1" +%d Failed conversion of `` 1'' using format ``%d'' date: illegal time format usage: date [-jnu] [-d dst] [-r seconds] [-t west] [-v[+|-]val[ymwdHMS]] ... [-f fmt date | [[[[[cc]yy]mm]dd]HH]MM[.ss]] [+format] Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 8:52:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AFB37B402 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 08:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from callisto.local ([12.91.17.71]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020113165231.SSJL9160.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@callisto.local> for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:52:31 +0000 Received: (from cmascott@localhost) by callisto.local (8.11.3/8.11.1) id g0DGqSx00430 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:52:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cmascott) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:52:28 -0500 (EST) From: Carl Mascott Message-Id: <200201131652.g0DGqSx00430@callisto.local> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd-questions mail archive never available for search Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No matter when I try searching freebsd-questions using the www.freebsd.org web interface I get this: None of the archives you requested (freebsd-questions) are available at this time. Other archives are available for searching at the times that freebsd-questions isn't available. NOTE: I'm not subscribed to this list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 9:20:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from home.24cl.com (174.113.sn.ct.dsl.thebiz.net [216.238.113.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE10237B41C for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from winbloat (winbloat.24cl.home [10.0.1.10]) by home.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C242B27E for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:20:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <200201131220270522.006B8FB4@smtp.24cl.home> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.01.01 (4) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:20:27 -0500 From: "Mike Miller" To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Suggestion for handbook section 15.6 (Serial console) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, First of all, this section of the documention was excellent in helping me= to set up serial access for my rack-mount FreeBSD server. I did run into one hurdle that I think should be mentioned in the handbook.= My default install of FreeBSD (4.4 release, from the CD-ROM) did not= enable a serial console in /etc/ttys. On my serial terminal I saw the= boot messages, but the serial output stopped just before I would have seen= the login prompt. I was stumped for a while, then I remembered the= /etc/ttys file and decided to give it a try. I enabled a serial console= and everything worked fine. May I suggest that section 15.6 mention that at least one serial console be= enabled in the file /etc/ttys in order for the serial console to work= fully up through the login prompt? Many thanks! Mike. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 9:52:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dntis.ro (mail.dntis.ro [193.226.30.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2251737B416 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from osiris (ppp37.tc.dntis.ro [193.230.253.38]) by mail.dntis.ro (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0DHq7J09178 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:52:17 +0200 Message-ID: <000201c19c5a$f9382300$26fde6c1@osiris> From: "Victor Prisacariu Adrian" To: Subject: Question about Romanian Translation Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:50:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19C6B.9D9D25C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Victor Prisacariu Adrian" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19C6B.9D9D25C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sirs, =20 I am a student from Romania and I have a question. I have recently = visited your website and saw that there is no Romanian version of it. I = am sending you this email because I wonder if you would allow me to = translate the entire website into Romanian. I have both the English and = technical knowledge to do this. Please email me soon and tell me if you = agree. =20 Thank you, =20 Yours sincerely, =20 Victor Prisacariu Adrian ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19C6B.9D9D25C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Sirs,

 

I am a student from=20 Romania= and I=20 have a question. I have recently visited your website and saw that there = is no=20 Romanian version of it. I am sending you this email because I wonder if = you=20 would allow me to translate the entire website into Romanian. I have = both the=20 English and technical knowledge to do this. Please email me soon and = tell me if=20 you agree.

 

Thank you,

 

Yours sincerely,

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19C6B.9D9D25C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 11:19:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EC337B402; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:19:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card4-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16Pq9y-0004FH-00; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:19:14 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16Pq95-000DbU-00; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:18:19 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:18:19 +0000 From: Ceri To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: FAQ addition Message-ID: <20020113191819.GA36159@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Giorgos Keramidas , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20020109081244.GA7971@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020109081244.GA7971@hades.hell.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:12:44AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Exim being some > of the most popular choises. s/choises/choices/ Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 11:24:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5891D37B416 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b187.otenet.gr [212.205.244.195]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g0DJOnO11420; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:24:50 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0DJOoA17362; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:24:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:24:49 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Carl Mascott Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd-questions mail archive never available for search Message-ID: <20020113192449.GF9841@hades.hell.gr> References: <200201131652.g0DGqSx00430@callisto.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200201131652.g0DGqSx00430@callisto.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-01-13 11:52:28, Carl Mascott wrote: > No matter when I try searching freebsd-questions using > the www.freebsd.org web interface I get this: > > None of the archives you requested (freebsd-questions) > are available at this time. > > Other archives are available for searching at the times that > freebsd-questions isn't available. Although I would prefer the archives to work like that, I find that http://groups.google.com/ is a nice search engine for the FreeBSD mailing lists too. Just thought I'd mention this, in case anyone finds it useful. -- Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org} FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 11:30:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D8B37B416 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b187.otenet.gr [212.205.244.195]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g0DJU8O15328; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:30:09 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0DJU9217437; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:30:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:30:09 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Victor Prisacariu Adrian Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about Romanian Translation Message-ID: <20020113193009.GG9841@hades.hell.gr> References: <000201c19c5a$f9382300$26fde6c1@osiris> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000201c19c5a$f9382300$26fde6c1@osiris> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-01-13 19:50:56, Victor Prisacariu Adrian wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > I am a student from Romania and I have a question. I have recently > visited your website and saw that there is no Romanian version of > it. I am sending you this email because I wonder if you would allow > me to translate the entire website into Romanian. I have both the > English and technical knowledge to do this. Please email me soon and > tell me if you agree. Yes, please. If you want to help with translating the FreeBSD Documentation Project work to Romanian, you are more than welcome to do it. The `FDP Primer' available from http://www.FreeBSD.org/ will be a useful read for you. The FreeBSD doc team always welcomes contributions and/or translations. Feel free to start translating :-) --=20 Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org} FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/ --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE8QeBB1g+UGjGGA7YRAgJBAKCz8kNyuiL8lhIgIv8+C0dTmyHyjACfUHJr ADH3GnT6vi1BWcKxUcLPEXU= =Tx5o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 12:20:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B7837B41A for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:20:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from callisto.local ([12.91.17.181]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020113202020.VBET9160.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@callisto.local>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:20:20 +0000 Received: (from cmascott@localhost) by callisto.local (8.11.3/8.11.1) id g0DKKI901848; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:20:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cmascott) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:20:18 -0500 (EST) From: Carl Mascott Message-Id: <200201132020.g0DKKI901848@callisto.local> To: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr Subject: Re: freebsd-questions mail archive never available for search Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020113192449.GF9841@hades.hell.gr> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Giorgos Keramidas > > On 2002-01-13 11:52:28, Carl Mascott wrote: > > No matter when I try searching freebsd-questions using > > the www.freebsd.org web interface I get this: > > > > None of the archives you requested (freebsd-questions) > > are available at this time. > > > > Other archives are available for searching at the times that > > freebsd-questions isn't available. > > Although I would prefer the archives to work like that, I find that > http://groups.google.com/ is a nice search engine for the FreeBSD > mailing lists too. Just thought I'd mention this, in case anyone > finds it useful. Not sure I understand you. If you mean to use http://www.google.com/ with "site:docs.freebsd.org" in the search phrase I understand. Otherwise I don't understand: I thought groups.google.com searched Usenet groups only. NOTE: I'm not subscribed to this list. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 13:19:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F9E37B402 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hukins.hn.org ([62.253.85.239]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020113211940.WNEL8780.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@hukins.hn.org> for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:19:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 47041 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Jan 2002 21:19:20 -0000 Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:19:20 +0000 From: Tom Hukins To: Carl Mascott Cc: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd-questions mail archive never available for search Message-ID: <20020113211919.A46878@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Hukins , Carl Mascott , keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020113192449.GF9841@hades.hell.gr> <200201132020.g0DKKI901848@callisto.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201132020.g0DKKI901848@callisto.local>; from cmascott@att.net on Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 03:20:18PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 03:20:18PM -0500, Carl Mascott wrote: > > From: Giorgos Keramidas > > > > I find that http://groups.google.com/ is a nice search engine for > > the FreeBSD mailing lists too. Just thought I'd mention this, in > > case anyone finds it useful. > > Not sure I understand you. If you mean to use > http://www.google.com/ with "site:docs.freebsd.org" in the search > phrase I understand. Otherwise I don't understand: I thought > groups.google.com searched Usenet groups only. The FreeBSD mailing lists are on Usenet due to being on various mailing list gateways. Try it - you should be able to find the list you want on there. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 14:32:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5014E37B405 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 14:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 51DE24B65D; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 14:32:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 14:32:24 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Carl Mascott , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd-questions mail archive never available for search Message-ID: <20020113143224.A22273@windriver.com> References: <200201131652.g0DGqSx00430@callisto.local> <20020113192449.GF9841@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020113192449.GF9841@hades.hell.gr>; from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr on Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 09:24:49PM +0200 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 09:24:49PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Although I would prefer the archives to work like that, I find that > http://groups.google.com/ is a nice search engine for the FreeBSD > mailing lists too. Just thought I'd mention this, in case anyone > finds it useful. We should mention this on the web site somewhere, since there are frequent complaints about our own search facilities. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 15:30: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E6637B404 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0DNU1l12625; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:30:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201132330.g0DNU1l12625@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: docs/33615:(close request) Reply-To: Hiten Pandya Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33615; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Hiten Pandya To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, dl@leo.org Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33615:(close request) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:23:58 +0000 hi, If you visit http://docs.freebsd.org/mail, you will see that it has been updated. It would be appreciated that next time when you submit a PR, please choose an appropriate priority settings IMO. If there are no more issues, this PR can be closed. Thanks, Regards, - Hiten - -- 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 15:30: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FE037B405 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0DNU2d12630; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 15:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201132330.g0DNU2d12630@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: docs/33615:(close request) Reply-To: Hiten Pandya Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33615; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Hiten Pandya To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, dl@leo.org Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33615:(close request) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:23:58 +0000 hi, If you visit http://docs.freebsd.org/mail, you will see that it has been updated. It would be appreciated that next time when you submit a PR, please choose an appropriate priority settings IMO. If there are no more issues, this PR can be closed. Thanks, Regards, - Hiten - -- 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 16:53:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5244737B416 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005F5BCDF; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:53:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26286; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:53:22 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0E0uDl03955; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:56:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Carl Mascott Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd-questions mail archive never available for search References: <200201132020.g0DKKI901848@callisto.local> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 13 Jan 2002 16:56:13 -0800 In-Reply-To: <200201132020.g0DKKI901848@callisto.local> Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Carl Mascott writes: > Not sure I understand you. If you mean to use http://www.google.com/ > with "site:docs.freebsd.org" in the search phrase I understand. > Otherwise I don't understand: I thought groups.google.com searched > Usenet groups only. I use http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search and put "*freebsd*" in the "Newsgroup" field. It finds lots of stuff from the mailing lists. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 17: 0:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A497637B41F for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 17:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0E104P25614; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 17:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A649437B41D for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F220BD30 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27267 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:59:02 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0E11se03961; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 17:01:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: <3hzo3hwxrx.o3h@localhost.localdomain> Date: 13 Jan 2002 17:01:54 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/33852: split(1) man page implies that input file is removed. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33852 >Category: docs >Synopsis: split(1) man page implies that input file is removed. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jan 13 17:00:04 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: 1) The split(1) man page can leave some readers wondering whether the input file itself (or a copy of it) is split into the output files. That is, does "split" remove the input file? (After splitting a log, the whole log is gone.) 2) The synopsis line implies that the -b, -l, and -p options may be used together and the -p option's description only partially clarifies the fact that only one of those options may be used successfully. 3) The page's use of "file" for a filename and "name" for a prefix is not as clear as it could be. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: 1) Change wording. 2) Change first SYNOPSIS line from split [-b byte_count[k|m]] [-l line_count] [-p pattern] to split [-b byte_count[k|m] | -l line_count | -p pattern] 3) Change words. NOTE: I've put a one-line patch for split.c at the end to make "usage" match "SYNOPSIS". If nobody wants to use it now, I can write a PR for it later. --- /tmp/split..orig.1 Sun Jan 13 13:59:09 2002 +++ /tmp/split.1 Sun Jan 13 15:11:33 2002 @@ -40,17 +40,21 @@ .Nd split a file into pieces .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm -.Op Fl b Ar byte_count[k|m] -.Op Fl l Ar line_count -.Op Fl p Ar pattern -.Op Ar file Op Ar name +.Op Fl b Ar byte_count[k|m] | Fl l Ar line_count | Fl p Ar pattern +.Op Ar filename Op Ar prefix .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm -utility reads the given -.Ar file +utility reads file +.Ar filename (or standard input if no file is specified) -and breaks it up into files of 1000 lines each. +and breaks it up into files of 1000 lines +(or an optionally specified size) each, leaving file +.Ar filename +unchanged. +No padding is added, so the last new file is normally smaller than the +others and proper catenation of the output files creates a copy of the +unsplit original. .Pp The options are as follows: .Bl -tag -width Ds @@ -77,11 +81,6 @@ .Ar pattern , which is interpreted as an extended regular expression. The matching line will be the first line of the next output file. -This option is incompatible with the -.Fl b -and -.Fl l -options. .El .Pp If additional arguments are specified, the first is used as the name @@ -93,13 +92,13 @@ .Dq Li aa-zz . .Pp If the -.Ar name +.Ar prefix argument is not specified, the file is split into lexically ordered files named in the range of .Dq Li xaa-zzz . .Sh BUGS For historical reasons, if you specify -.Ar name , +.Ar prefix , .Nm can only create 676 separate files. --- /tmp/split..orig.c Sun Jan 13 15:13:54 2002 +++ /tmp/split.c Sun Jan 13 15:18:26 2002 @@ -312,6 +312,6 @@ usage() { (void)fprintf(stderr, -"usage: split [-b byte_count] [-l line_count] [-p pattern] [file [prefix]]\n"); +"usage: split [-b byte_count | -l line_count | -p pattern] [filename [prefix]]\n"); exit(EX_USAGE); } >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 20: 9:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208C137B402 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id g0E49ND20383 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:09:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:09:22 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: handbook kernel configuration still uses manual maxusers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Was skimming through the handbook on the web this evening, and noticed that the kernel configuration section is still out of date with respects to the recent addition of maxusers-autotuning. This is something that probably should be updated prior to the release. Also, noticed that 'pkg_add -r kde2' is the recommended way to install KDE; however, I also saw recent patches fly by to use kde2base in sysinstall: will kde2 still work? What does it all mean? :-) Further down -- are any of the pseudo-devices down there now cloning, and should lose tghe constant arguments? Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 20:33:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0BF37B419 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a131.otenet.gr [212.205.215.131]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g0E4XXO14740 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 06:33:34 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0E4XZG25458 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 06:33:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 06:33:35 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: PPP vs. &man.ppp.8; vs. ppp Message-ID: <20020114043335.GA24851@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've seen user-ppp mentioned in many ways in the FAQ. What do you all think of the diff at http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/diff/29.faq-ppp.diff ? The idea behind the changes is that when the protocol is what we are talking about, we use `PPP', but when the program ppp(8) is being referred to, we use &man.ppp.8; instead. Comments? --=20 Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org} FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/ --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE8Ql+e1g+UGjGGA7YRAjiEAJ9q4yQVVCenrsZo07xss1Gs2lKwAwCfYA0Q eT/xjx1KVY419rNac1h+TTg= =bP3Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 13 23:50:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC3B37B419; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0E7oWf02627; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:50:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:50:32 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201140750.g0E7oWf02627@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dl@leo.org, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/33615: http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/ needs updating Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/ needs updating State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Sun Jan 13 23:49:43 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: The page has been updated -- see the audit trail. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33615 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 1:50: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5048B37B419 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0E9o1R26758; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:50:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201140950.g0E9o1R26758@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Daniel Lang Subject: Re: docs/33615:(close request) Reply-To: Daniel Lang Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33615; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Daniel Lang To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33615:(close request) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:46:52 +0100 Hi, Hiten Pandya wrote on Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 11:23:58PM +0000: [..] > If you visit http://docs.freebsd.org/mail, you will see that it has been > updated. It would be appreciated that next time when you submit a PR, Great. > please choose an appropriate priority settings IMO. Hmm, priority 'medium' did sound reasonable for me, since the matter is somewhat time contraint (it would be a bit useless if its fixed in a matter of months). Anyway, if you feel the settings were unappropriate, I apologize. > If there are no more issues, this PR can be closed. Ack. Best regards, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - Cool people don't move, they just hang around. - Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * ++49 89 289 25735 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 1:50: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8C037B41C for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0E9o3A26763; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:50:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201140950.g0E9o3A26763@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Daniel Lang Subject: Re: docs/33615:(close request) Reply-To: Daniel Lang Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33615; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Daniel Lang To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33615:(close request) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:46:52 +0100 Hi, Hiten Pandya wrote on Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 11:23:58PM +0000: [..] > If you visit http://docs.freebsd.org/mail, you will see that it has been > updated. It would be appreciated that next time when you submit a PR, Great. > please choose an appropriate priority settings IMO. Hmm, priority 'medium' did sound reasonable for me, since the matter is somewhat time contraint (it would be a bit useless if its fixed in a matter of months). Anyway, if you feel the settings were unappropriate, I apologize. > If there are no more issues, this PR can be closed. Ack. Best regards, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - Cool people don't move, they just hang around. - Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * ++49 89 289 25735 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 1:50:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E4837B41D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0E9o4026768; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:50:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 01:50:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201140950.g0E9o4026768@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: docs/33852: split(1) man page implies that input file is removed. Reply-To: Ruslan Ermilov Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33852; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33852: split(1) man page implies that input file is removed. Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:44:01 +0200 On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 05:01:54PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > 1) The split(1) man page can leave some readers wondering whether the > input file itself (or a copy of it) is split into the output files. > That is, does "split" remove the input file? (After splitting a log, > the whole log is gone.) > > 2) The synopsis line implies that the -b, -l, and -p options may be > used together and the -p option's description only partially clarifies > the fact that only one of those options may be used successfully. > > 3) The page's use of "file" for a filename and "name" for a prefix is > not as clear as it could be. > [...] > >Fix: > > 1) Change wording. > 2) Change first SYNOPSIS line from > split [-b byte_count[k|m]] [-l line_count] [-p pattern] > to > split [-b byte_count[k|m] | -l line_count | -p pattern] > 3) Change words. > > NOTE: I've put a one-line patch for split.c at the end to make "usage" > match "SYNOPSIS". If nobody wants to use it now, I can write a PR for > it later. > > --- /tmp/split..orig.1 Sun Jan 13 13:59:09 2002 > +++ /tmp/split.1 Sun Jan 13 15:11:33 2002 > @@ -40,17 +40,21 @@ > .Nd split a file into pieces > .Sh SYNOPSIS > .Nm > -.Op Fl b Ar byte_count[k|m] > -.Op Fl l Ar line_count > -.Op Fl p Ar pattern > -.Op Ar file Op Ar name > +.Op Fl b Ar byte_count[k|m] | Fl l Ar line_count | Fl p Ar pattern > +.Op Ar filename Op Ar prefix > I don't like changing "file" to "filename", because "file" is a standard value that's output if you don't give .Ar any arguments. > .Sh DESCRIPTION > The > .Nm > -utility reads the given > -.Ar file > +utility reads file > +.Ar filename > (or standard input if no file is specified) > -and breaks it up into files of 1000 lines each. > +and breaks it up into files of 1000 lines > +(or an optionally specified size) each, leaving file > +.Ar filename > +unchanged. > or an optionally specified pattern (-p). This IMO unnecessarily duplicates options description. > +No padding is added, so the last new file is normally smaller than the > +others and proper catenation of the output files creates a copy of the > +unsplit original. > This clause is not true for the -p case, which is not size-constrained. I'd be happy to commit this patch instead, if you like (based on your version): Index: split.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/split/split.1,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -p -r1.6 split.1 --- split.1 2001/07/15 08:01:34 1.6 +++ split.1 2002/01/14 09:41:17 @@ -40,48 +40,44 @@ .Nd split a file into pieces .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm -.Op Fl b Ar byte_count[k|m] -.Op Fl l Ar line_count -.Op Fl p Ar pattern -.Op Ar file Op Ar name +.Op Fl b Ar byte_count Ns Oo Cm k Ns | Ns Cm m Oc | Fl l Ar line_count | Fl p Ar pattern +.Op Ar file Op Ar prefix .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm utility reads the given .Ar file (or standard input if no file is specified) -and breaks it up into files of 1000 lines each. +and breaks it up into files of 1000 lines each +(if no options are specified), leaving the +.Ar file +unchanged. .Pp The options are as follows: -.Bl -tag -width Ds -.It Fl b +.Bl -tag -width indent +.It Fl b Ar byte_count Ns Op Cm k Ns | Ns Cm m Create smaller files .Ar byte_count bytes in length. If -.Dq Li k +.Cm k is appended to the number, the file is split into .Ar byte_count kilobyte pieces. If -.Dq Li m +.Cm m is appended to the number, the file is split into .Ar byte_count megabyte pieces. -.It Fl l +.It Fl l Ar line_count Create smaller files -.Ar n +.Ar line_count lines in length. .It Fl p Ar pattern The file is split whenever an input line matches .Ar pattern , which is interpreted as an extended regular expression. The matching line will be the first line of the next output file. -This option is incompatible with the -.Fl b -and -.Fl l -options. .El .Pp If additional arguments are specified, the first is used as the name @@ -90,16 +86,16 @@ If a second additional argument is speci for the names of the files into which the file is split. In this case, each file into which the file is split is named by the prefix followed by a lexically ordered suffix in the range of -.Dq Li aa-zz . +.Dq Li aa Ns - Ns Li zz . .Pp If the -.Ar name +.Ar prefix argument is not specified, the file is split into lexically ordered files named in the range of .Dq Li xaa-zzz . .Sh BUGS For historical reasons, if you specify -.Ar name , +.Ar prefix , .Nm can only create 676 separate files. Index: split.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/split/split.c,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -p -r1.8 split.c --- split.c 2001/12/12 23:09:07 1.8 +++ split.c 2002/01/14 09:41:18 @@ -116,11 +116,6 @@ main(argc, argv) else if (*ep == 'm') bytecnt *= 1048576; break; - case 'p' : /* pattern matching. */ - if (regcomp(&rgx, optarg, REG_EXTENDED|REG_NOSUB) != 0) - errx(EX_USAGE, "%s: illegal regexp", optarg); - pflag = 1; - break; case 'l': /* Line count. */ if (numlines != 0) usage(); @@ -128,6 +123,11 @@ main(argc, argv) errx(EX_USAGE, "%s: illegal line count", optarg); break; + case 'p' : /* Pattern matching. */ + if (regcomp(&rgx, optarg, REG_EXTENDED|REG_NOSUB) != 0) + errx(EX_USAGE, "%s: illegal regexp", optarg); + pflag = 1; + break; default: usage(); } @@ -311,6 +311,6 @@ static void usage() { (void)fprintf(stderr, -"usage: split [-b byte_count] [-l line_count] [-p pattern] [file [prefix]]\n"); +"usage: split [-b byte_count | -l line_count | -p pattern] [file [prefix]]\n"); exit(EX_USAGE); } -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 3: 1:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DFE37B41D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 03:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g0EAxwv08553; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:59:58 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:59:58 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Dan Eischen Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Review needed for man pages Message-ID: <20020114125958.A7207@sunbay.com> References: <3C3AFEFE.D2418A7F@vigrid.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C3AFEFE.D2418A7F@vigrid.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:15:26AM -0500, Dan Eischen wrote: > Can someone review these man pages: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~deischen/ucontext/getcontext.3 > http://people.freebsd.org/~deischen/ucontext/makecontext.3 > Please see patch attached. Non markup-related changes in the patch: - Removed "shall" POSIXism -- FreeBSD is an implementor, and should document the actual implementation behavior. - Fixed return type of makecontext() in SYNOPSIS. > Also, the content was taken directly from the IEEE ratified > Austin Draft 7. Are we allowed to do that? > I'm affraid not. Please see http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/terms.htm for details. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=p --- getcontext.3~ Tue Jan 8 16:01:39 2002 +++ getcontext.3 Mon Jan 14 12:30:17 2002 @@ -2,11 +2,10 @@ .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" .Dd January 6, 2002 -.Os FreeBSD 5.0 +.Os .Dt GETCONTEXT 3 .Sh NAME -.Nm getcontext , -.Nm setcontext +.Nm getcontext , setcontext .Nd get and set current user context .Sh LIBRARY .Lb libc @@ -19,9 +18,10 @@ .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Fn getcontext -function shall initialize the structure pointed to by +function initializes the structure pointed to by .Fa ucp -to the current user context of the calling thread. The +to the current user context of the calling thread. +The .Vt ucontext_t type that .Fa ucp @@ -31,11 +31,11 @@ .Pp The .Fn setcontext -function shall restore the user context pointed to by +function restores the user context pointed to by .Fa ucp . A successful call to .Fn setcontext -shall not return; program execution resumes at the point specified by the +does not return; program execution resumes at the point specified by the .Fa ucp argument passed to .Fn setcontext . @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ argument should be created either by a prior call to .Fn getcontext or -.Fn makecontext , +.Xr makecontext 3 , or by being passed as an argument to a signal handler. If the .Fa ucp @@ -56,43 +56,43 @@ If the .Fa ucp argument was created with -.Fn makecontext , +.Xr makecontext 3 , program execution continues with the function passed to -.Fn makecontext . -When that function returns, the thread shall continue as if after a call to +.Xr makecontext 3 . +When that function returns, the thread continues as if after a call to .Fn setcontext with the .Fa ucp argument that was input to -.Fn makecontext . +.Xr makecontext 3 . If the -.Vt uc_link +.Va uc_link member of the .Vt ucontext_t structure pointed to by the .Fa ucp argument is equal to 0, then this context is the main context, and the thread -shall exit when this context returns. +exits when this context returns. The effects of passing a .Fa ucp argument obtained from any other source are unspecified. .Sh RETURN VALUES Upon successful completion, .Fn setcontext -shall not return and +does not return and .Fn getcontext -shall return 0; otherwse, a value of -1 shall be returned. +returns 0; otherwise, a value of \-1 is returned. .Sh EXAMPLES Refer to -.Fn makecontext . +.Xr makecontext 3 . .Sh ERRORS No errors are defined. .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr makecontext 3 , -.Xr setjmp 3 , .Xr sigaction 2 , .Xr sigaltstack 2 , .Xr sigprocmask 2 , +.Xr makecontext 3 , +.Xr setjmp 3 , .Xr sigsetjmp 3 .Sh STANDARDS The @@ -102,4 +102,4 @@ functions are expected to conform to .St -susv2 and -.St -p1003.1-2001 +.St -p1003.1-2001 . --- makecontext.3~ Tue Jan 8 16:01:49 2002 +++ makecontext.3 Mon Jan 14 12:30:17 2002 @@ -2,32 +2,31 @@ .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" .Dd January 6, 2002 -.Os FreeBSD 5.0 +.Os .Dt MAKECONTEXT 3 .Sh NAME -.Nm makecontext , -.Nm swapcontext +.Nm makecontext , swapcontext .Nd manipulate user contexts .Sh LIBRARY .Lb libc .Sh SYNOPSIS .In ucontext.h +.Ft void +.Fn makecontext "ucontext_t *ucp" "void \*(lp*func\*(rp\*(lpvoid\*(rp" "int argc" ... .Ft int -.Fn makecontext "ucontext_t *ucp, void (*func)(void), int argc, ..." -.Ft int -.Fn swapcontext "ucontext_t *oucp, const ucontext_t *ucp" +.Fn swapcontext "ucontext_t *oucp" "const ucontext_t *ucp" .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Fn makecontext -function shall modify the context specified by +function modifies the context specified by .Fa ucp , which has been initialized using -.Fn getcontext . +.Xr getcontext 3 . When this context is resumed using .Fn swapcontext or -.Fn setcontext , -program execution shall continue by calling +.Xr setcontext 3 , +program execution continues by calling .Fa func , passing it the arguments that follow .Fa argc @@ -46,28 +45,24 @@ otherwise, the behavior is undefined. .Pp The -.Vt uc_link +.Va uc_link member is used to determine the context that shall be resumed when the context being modified by .Fn makecontext returns. The application shall ensure that the -.Vt uc_link +.Va uc_link member is initialized prior to the call to .Fn makecontext . .Pp The .Fn swapcontext -function shall save the current context in the context structure pointed to by +function saves the current context in the context structure pointed to by .Fa oucp -and shall set the context to the context structure pointed to by +and sets the context to the context structure pointed to by .Fa ucp . .Sh RETURN VALUES -Upon successful completion, -.Fn swapcontext -shall return 0. Otherwise, -1 shall be returned and -.Va errno -set to indicate the error. +.Rv -std swapcontext .Sh EXAMPLES The following example illustrates the use of .Fn makecontext . @@ -117,7 +112,7 @@ .Sh ERRORS The .Fn swapcontext -function shall fail if: +function fails if: .Bl -tag -width Er .It Bq Er ENOMEM The @@ -125,10 +120,10 @@ argument does not have enough stack left to complete the operation. .El .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr exit 3 , -.Xr getcontext 3 , .Xr sigaction 2 , -.Xr sigprocmask 2 +.Xr sigprocmask 2 , +.Xr exit 3 , +.Xr getcontext 3 .Sh STANDARDS The .Fn makecontext --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 3:48:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cgocable.ca (mail.cgocable.ca [205.151.69.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD4E37B400 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 03:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from utilisat (casoux@204-191.ri.cgocable.ca [24.226.204.191]) by mail.cgocable.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0EBiCV25315 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 06:44:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01c19cf1$e48a3a00$bfcce218@ri.cgocable.ca> From: "Mario Brisson" To: Subject: Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 06:52:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19CC7.FA2A84C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19CC7.FA2A84C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable J'aimerais savoir si le freebsd fonctionne avec windows 95. 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majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 7:16:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2699737B404 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 07:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0EFGpD58683; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:16:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C42F80F.7020306@pittgoth.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:23:59 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP vs. &man.ppp.8; vs. ppp References: <20020114043335.GA24851@hades.hell.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > I've seen user-ppp mentioned in many ways in the FAQ. > What do you all think of the diff at > http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/diff/29.faq-ppp.diff ? > > The idea behind the changes is that when the protocol is what we are > talking about, we use `PPP', but when the program ppp(8) is being > referred to, we use &man.ppp.8; instead. > > Comments? > > I like, and with no other remarks think it should be replied hehe -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 7:28:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4482937B402; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 07:28:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0EFTbD58699; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:29:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C42FB0D.1020700@pittgoth.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:36:45 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Cc: Robert Watson , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: handbook kernel configuration still uses manual maxusers References: <20020114140314.GA2804@rhadamanth> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ceri wrote: > On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 11:09:22PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > >>Was skimming through the handbook on the web this evening, and noticed >>that the kernel configuration section is still out of date with respects >>to the recent addition of maxusers-autotuning. This is something that >>probably should be updated prior to the release. >> > > This was done a while ago in revision 1.31, IIRC. > > Ceri > > Actually, I am currently working on a new version of the handbook's Kernel Configuration chapter, but when I got my hands on 4.5, I noticed some differences that need to be noted. Most likly I will wait until 4.5 has been released before I continue work, this way I can be sure we have everything up to par. Comments/suggestions? -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 7:53:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC6F37B41E for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 07:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id g0EFoSD26894; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:50:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:50:28 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Ceri , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: handbook kernel configuration still uses manual maxusers In-Reply-To: <3C42FB0D.1020700@pittgoth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Ceri wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 11:09:22PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > > > >>Was skimming through the handbook on the web this evening, and noticed > >>that the kernel configuration section is still out of date with respects > >>to the recent addition of maxusers-autotuning. This is something that > >>probably should be updated prior to the release. > >> > > > > This was done a while ago in revision 1.31, IIRC. > > > > Ceri > > > > > > Actually, I am currently working on a new version of the handbook's > Kernel Configuration chapter, but when I got my hands on 4.5, I noticed > some differences that need to be noted. Most likly I will wait until > 4.5 has been released before I continue work, this way I can be sure we > have everything up to par. Comments/suggestions? If possible, I think it would be highly desirable to ship a version of the handbook with 4.5-RELEASE that includes documentation of at least a couple of the kernel configuration changes. In particular, the maxusers change. Hopefully, we've gotten past the point where too many serious changes are going into 4.5, certainly ones relating to the user experience (cross fingers here). Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 8: 6:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9717937B405; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:06:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0EG7OD58764; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:07:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C4303E8.6020805@pittgoth.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:14:32 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson Cc: Ceri , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: handbook kernel configuration still uses manual maxusers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert Watson wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > >>Ceri wrote: >> >> >>>On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 11:09:22PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Was skimming through the handbook on the web this evening, and noticed >>>>that the kernel configuration section is still out of date with respects >>>>to the recent addition of maxusers-autotuning. This is something that >>>>probably should be updated prior to the release. >>>> >>>> >>>This was done a while ago in revision 1.31, IIRC. >>> >>>Ceri >>> >>> >>> >>Actually, I am currently working on a new version of the handbook's >>Kernel Configuration chapter, but when I got my hands on 4.5, I noticed >>some differences that need to be noted. Most likly I will wait until >>4.5 has been released before I continue work, this way I can be sure we >>have everything up to par. Comments/suggestions? >> > > If possible, I think it would be highly desirable to ship a version of the > handbook with 4.5-RELEASE that includes documentation of at least a couple > of the kernel configuration changes. In particular, the maxusers change. > Hopefully, we've gotten past the point where too many serious changes are > going into 4.5, certainly ones relating to the user experience (cross > fingers here). > > Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project > robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > Actually, having sup'd the sources, I have found it to be no real big deal making the transition to 4.5 The only thing I have found a problem, is the KDE source will not build (least not last week) and I had to revert back to the older version of KDE and in turn screwed up my ports (starting pkgdb -F) but that has nothing to do with the 4.5 release since the source came from kde.org. I think the documentation may be a good idea, however, I think its the time constraint that we would be facing... -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 8: 8:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B414237B41D for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from callisto.local ([12.91.16.12]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020114160848.MTLO941.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@callisto.local>; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 16:08:48 +0000 Received: (from cmascott@localhost) by callisto.local (8.11.3/8.11.1) id g0EG8ie00374; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:08:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cmascott) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:08:44 -0500 (EST) From: Carl Mascott Message-Id: <200201141608.g0EG8ie00374@callisto.local> To: swear@blarg.net Subject: Re: freebsd-questions mail archive never available for search Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) > > Carl Mascott writes: > > > Not sure I understand you. If you mean to use http://www.google.com/ > > with "site:docs.freebsd.org" in the search phrase I understand. > > Otherwise I don't understand: I thought groups.google.com searched > > Usenet groups only. > > I use http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search and put "*freebsd*" > in the "Newsgroup" field. It finds lots of stuff from the mailing lists. Thanks, Giorgos, Tom and Gary. The largest assortment of freebsd mailing lists on my ISP's news server is muc.lists.freebsd.* . NetBSD mailing lists can be found at muc.lists.netbsd.*, if anyone's interested. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 8:30:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FA437B422 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0EGU1w60342; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DB737B41E for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from fokus.gmd.de (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0EGRGh03268; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:27:16 +0100 (MET) Received: (from root@localhost) by fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.0) id g0EGRFO21809; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:27:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from hbb) Message-Id: <200201141627.g0EGRFO21809@fokus.gmd.de> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:27:15 +0100 (CET) From: Hartmut Brandt Reply-To: Hartmut Brandt To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: schilling@fokus.gmd.de X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/33877: Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non-SU is wrong Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33877 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non-SU is wrong >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jan 14 08:30:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Hartmut Brandt >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: FhG Fokus >Environment: System: FreeBSD beagle.fokus.gmd.de 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #7: Fri Jan 11 13:15:44 CET 2002 hbb@beagle.fokus.gmd.de:/opt/obj/usr/src/sys/BEAGLE i386 >Description: The man 2 chflags man page is wrong in its description how the flags are handled in some cases: 1. The non-superuser is not allowed to change any flag if one of SF_IMMUTABLE, SF_APPEND, SF_NOUNLINK are set. While the first is abvious the other two cases are not and should be documentet. 2. The non-superuser is not allowed to SET any SF_* flag. Doing so results in EPERM returned (this is contrary to the man page). 3. Clearing a SF_* flag by the superuser is silently ignored. 4. The superuser cannot change any flag if one of SF_IMMUTABLE, SF_APPEND, SF_NOUNLINK is set if securelevel is greater than 0. See comment 1. 5. The SF_SNAPSHOT flag is not documentet. 6. The SF_SNAPSHOT flag cannot be set or cleared by any user. >How-To-Repeat: Construct one of the above cases and try chflags and ls -lo. For 1. the sequence would be (as joe:user): # sudo touch /var/tmp/foo # sudo chown joe:user /var/tmp/foo # chflags schg /var/tmp/foo chflags: /var/tmp/foo: Operation not permitted # sudo chflags schg /var/tmp/foo # chflags noschg /var/tmp/foo chflags: /var/tmp/foo: Operation not permitted For cases 2 and 3: # sudo touch /var/tmp/foo # sudo chown joe:user /var/tmp/foo # chflags arch /var/tmp/foo chflags: /var/tmp/foo: Operation not permitted # sudo chflags arch /var/tmp/foo # chflags noarch /var/tmp/foo # ls -lo /var/tmp/foo -rw-r--r-- 1 joe user arch 0 Jan 14 16:01 /var/tmp/foo >Fix: Index: chflags.2 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/ncvs/src/lib/libc/sys/chflags.2,v retrieving revision 1.19 diff -c -r1.19 chflags.2 *** chflags.2 1 Oct 2001 16:09:01 -0000 1.19 --- chflags.2 14 Jan 2002 16:25:21 -0000 *************** *** 80,87 **** --- 80,100 ---- The file may only be appended to. .It SF_NOUNLINK The file may not be renamed or deleted. + .It SF_SNAPSHOT + The file is a snapshot file. .El .Pp + If one of + .Dq SF_IMMUTABLE , + .Dq SF_APPEND , + or + .Dq SF_NOUNLINK + is set a non-super-user cannot change any flags and even the super-user + can change flags only if securelevel is greater than 0. + (See + .Xr init 8 + for details.) + .Pp The .Dq UF_IMMUTABLE , .Dq UF_APPEND , *************** *** 98,110 **** and .Dq SF_ARCHIVED flags may only be set or unset by the super-user. ! Attempts by the non-super-user to set the super-user only flags ! are silently ignored. ! These flags may be set at any time, but normally may only be unset when ! the system is in single-user mode. ! (See ! .Xr init 8 ! for details.) .Sh RETURN VALUES .Rv -std .Sh ERRORS --- 111,121 ---- and .Dq SF_ARCHIVED flags may only be set or unset by the super-user. ! Attempts to set these flags by non-super-users are rejected, attempts to ! clear flags, that are already set, by non-super-users are silently ignored. ! The ! .Dq SF_SNAPSHOT ! flag is maintained by the system and cannot be changed by any user. .Sh RETURN VALUES .Rv -std .Sh ERRORS *************** *** 125,130 **** --- 136,148 ---- .It Bq Er EPERM The effective user ID does not match the owner of the file and the effective user ID is not the super-user. + One of + .Dq SF_IMMUTABLE , + .Dq SF_APPEND , + or + .Dq SF_NOUNLINK + is set and the user is either not the super-user or securelevel is greater + than 0. A non-super-user tries to set one of the system flags. .It Bq Er EROFS The named file resides on a read-only file system. .It Bq Er EFAULT *************** *** 149,154 **** --- 167,179 ---- .It Bq Er EPERM The effective user ID does not match the owner of the file and the effective user ID is not the super-user. + One of + .Dq SF_IMMUTABLE , + .Dq SF_APPEND , + or + .Dq SF_NOUNLINK + is set and the user is either not the super-user or securelevel is greater + than 0. 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=0D=0A= =0D=0A=0D=0A ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C06B5E.74675200-- ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C06B5E.74675200-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 10: 8: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from merlin.bogen.org (adsl-216-103-84-120.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.84.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B63E37B439 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:07:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from bogen.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.bogen.org (8.11.5/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g0EI7lN02257; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:07:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from db@bogen.org) Message-ID: <3C431E72.9060900@bogen.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:07:46 -0800 From: David Bogen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20020107 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carl Mascott Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-questions mail archive never available for search References: <200201131652.g0DGqSx00430@callisto.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The same thing happened to the -stable archives four or five months back. They were unavailable for the better part of a month, if memory serves. The webmaster for www.freebsd.org mentioned that this happened because of some problems with the software (freewais-sf) that indexes the messages. After this was brought to his attention, he had it fixed in a matter of days. Perhaps this is a similar problem. There were opinions expressed on -stable that when the archives are not available, it might be nice to display a list of alternative sites that contained much of the same information. Unfortunately, those feelings were never translated into action. Should we open a PR about this? Perhaps something along the lines of "when -whatever archives are down, the error message returned should also list a series of alternative sites." Carl Mascott wrote: > No matter when I try searching freebsd-questions using > the www.freebsd.org web interface I get this: > > None of the archives you requested (freebsd-questions) > are available at this time. > > Other archives are available for searching at the times that > freebsd-questions isn't available. > > NOTE: I'm not subscribed to this list. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 10: 8: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8458B37B402 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g0EI7BF72888 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:07:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:07:10 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: doc/ and src/: -STABLE vs. -CURRENT Message-ID: <20020114200710.B68211@sunbay.com> References: <200201141659.g0EGx3v64984@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020114190526.K21333@sunbay.com> <20020114092908.Q27556@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020114092908.Q27556@windriver.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I've just moved the yp(4) manpage in -CURRENT to section 8, it's now named yp(8), and fixed all src/ references to it. I don't usually touch the -doc domain, what's the policy here? I mean, the RELENG_4 branch for the doc/ subtree doesn't seem to exist, and if manpage exists under different names in -STABLE and -CURRENT (as it is now for yp.[48], should there be two seperate entries for it in man-refs.ent? And what about documents using man.yp.4 entity (there isn't actually one)? Should these be changed to man.yp.8, or should this be done only after the correspondong change is MFCed? To summarize, what brances of the src/ subtree the HEAD branch of the doc/ subtree corresponds to? RELENG_4, or both RELENG_4 and HEAD? I guess the latter, as documenation should be capable of documenting both -STABLE and -CURRENT interfaces, etc. If that's the case, then we should have two seperate entries for man.yp.4 and man.yp.8 in man-refs.ent, and decide where to use man.yp.4 or man.yp.8 on a per-document basis. Correct? Thanks, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 10: 8:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from btclick.com (mta01.btfusion.com [62.172.195.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7A337B416 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lion ([213.123.166.55]) by btclick.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GPXX1Y00.K3X for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:08:22 +0000 Subject: Antique Reproduction Oriental Carpets by Leon Norell, London To: doc@freebsd.org From: "leon.norell" Content-Type: multipart/related;type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C06B5E.74675200" Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:00:00 +0000 Message-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C06B5E.74675200 Subject: Antique Reproduction Oriental Carpets by Leon Norell, London To: doc@freebsd.org From: "leon.norell" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C06B5E.74675200" Date: 14/01/02 X-Mailer: Spyder Mailer 1.0 =0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0ALeon=20Norell=20Oriental=20Carpets=0D= =0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A
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=0D=0A= =0D=0A=0D=0A ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C06B5E.74675200-- ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C06B5E.74675200-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 11: 1:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B16637B420 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0EJ0pr90387 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:00:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:00:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201141900.g0EJ0pr90387@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2001/10/14] docs/31265 doc crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allo f [2001/12/06] docs/32564 doc [PATCH] MAKEDEV.8 (i386) - wd# is replace 4 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. s [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/06/06] docs/27915 doc man 5 passwd does not properly explain th o [2001/06/30] docs/28555 doc [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/22] docs/29143 doc List of man pages that need to be written o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP f [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/13] docs/30556 doc vnconfig man page incorrect; functionalit o [2001/09/15] docs/30603 doc physio(9) is internally inconsistent o [2001/09/22] docs/30731 doc printf(1) refers to ANSI C Standard draft o [2001/09/24] docs/30809 doc fdisk(8) cleanup o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect a [2001/10/14] docs/31271 doc rl(4) discourages vender openness by disp o [2001/10/30] docs/31640 doc Avoiding uppercase program names in manpa o [2001/10/30] docs/31653 doc Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content o [2001/11/15] docs/32008 doc wrong path for dhclient.conf in dhclient- o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2001/11/16] docs/32041 doc Add point about net.inet.tcp.portange.{fi o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. a [2001/11/26] docs/32323 doc man page `named(8)' do not have link for o [2001/11/29] docs/32373 doc Bad ifconfig(8) alias advice in FAQ 10.9 o [2001/12/01] docs/32425 doc Document cvs update `P file' output o [2001/12/02] docs/32451 doc Missing images in vm-design article o [2001/12/02] docs/32463 doc ifconfig(8) missing address_family defaul o [2001/12/03] docs/32468 doc broken link in handbook: sysutils/mkisofs o [2001/12/07] docs/32578 doc A _really_ petty change to the front page o [2001/12/10] docs/32674 doc no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca o [2001/12/13] docs/32825 doc undocumented options in LINT o [2001/12/16] docs/32901 doc Misleading statement about "X Windows" o [2001/12/20] docs/33042 doc Minor changes to Chapter 2 of the handboo f [2001/12/25] docs/33164 doc New section for 'Storage' chapter of hand o [2001/12/27] docs/33259 doc docproj primer should document element-wi o [2001/12/30] docs/33354 doc no rsync section in mirror chapter of the o [2001/12/31] docs/33390 doc Markup fix for tuning.7 o [2002/01/05] docs/33585 doc Possible Errata in ntp.conf.5 manpage o [2002/01/05] docs/33586 doc An errata in ntp.keys.5 manpage o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/07] docs/33639 doc ping(8) and ping6(8) are silent about SIG o [2002/01/07] docs/33640 doc fetch(1) is silent about SIGINFO o [2002/01/07] docs/33645 doc k5list(1) contains many incorrect "klist" o [2002/01/07] docs/33654 doc openssl(1) contains many broken SEE ALSO o [2002/01/07] docs/33666 doc pkg_create(1) should also mention pkg_upd o [2002/01/11] docs/33784 doc [PATCH] Cron man page is incomplete o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- 54 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 11:30:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ECFD37B417 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0EJU2g98909; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201141930.g0EJU2g98909@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/33852: split(1) man page implies that input file is removed. Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33852; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33852: split(1) man page implies that input file is removed. Date: 14 Jan 2002 11:29:54 -0800 Ruslan Ermilov writes: > I don't like changing "file" to "filename", because "file" is a > standard value that's output if you don't give .Ar any arguments. Bad conventions are better (in this case) than none. :-) > +and breaks it up into files of 1000 lines each > +(if no options are specified), leaving the > +.Ar file > +unchanged. That should be either "leaving the file _file_ unchanged" or "leaving _file_ unchanged" because "the _file_" refers to a filename or option argument which nobody will be concerned might change. > -.Bl -tag -width Ds > -.It Fl b > +.Bl -tag -width indent > +.It Fl b Ar byte_count Ns Op Cm k Ns | Ns Cm m I think it's better to leave option arguments out of the option description labels and leave them in the synopsis (at least for small man pages where the synopsis is easily viewed). It should result in fewer man page bugs. When an option has several forms of arguments or is otherwise complex, it is probably best buried in the description and still not in the description label. But I've noticed it both ways. >> +No padding is added, so the last new file is normally smaller than the >> +others and proper catenation of the output files creates a copy of the >> +unsplit original. I'm glad you caught my -p (non-fixed-size chunks) oversight, but I wonder if you would replace my sentence above with: +No padding is added, so the proper catenation of the output files +creates a copy of the unsplit original. It could be at the end of the DESCRIPTION first paragraph, or as a new last paragraph of the DESCRIPTION. (I thought it best to omit shell interaction by mentioning "cat prefix* >copy-of-original".) Users shouldn't have to experiment to determine that padding is not performed, especially since the first paragraph of the DESCRIPTION will imply that it does pad out to 1000 lines (by default). > -"usage: split [-b byte_count] [-l line_count] [-p pattern] [file [prefix]]\n"); > +"usage: split [-b byte_count | -l line_count | -p pattern] [file [prefix]]\n"); You might want to break that into two shorter lines. I wasn't 100% sure how to do it. What's the FreeBSD standard limit? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 11:58: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9794737B419 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0EJx1D59368 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:59:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C433A31.2040806@pittgoth.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:06:09 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pr: 33666 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org docs/33666 also contains a patch, if anyone wishes they can apply the patch, and change the pr state to closed. Thank you -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 18:40:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66E237B41C for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0F2e0J27196; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:40:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157A237B405 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:31:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5C5BCFF for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:31:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA32581 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:31:27 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0F2YBb04988; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:34:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 14 Jan 2002 18:34:11 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/33907: dump(8) man page is misleading in nodump paragraph Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33907 >Category: docs >Synopsis: dump(8) man page is misleading in nodump paragraph >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jan 14 18:40:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The paragraph of the dump(8) man page which discusses the "nodump" file flag is only true with certain values of dump level and the -h option which the paragraph doesn't mention. The lack of -h mention makes the paragraph strictly untrue and will mislead those who have forgotten or not noticed the -h option. (I say from personal experience which would have cost me much wasted "chflags"ing, save a lucky -questions thread.) Also: The man page doesn't have "chflags(1)" in "SEE ALSO" which may be used to change the "nodump" flag and which references "chflags(2)" which discusses the "UF_NODUMP" constant mentioned in the dump(8) man page. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Note: Maybe "chflags(2)" should also be in SEE ALSO; I omitted it. patch -d "unknown uncompressed man directory" < this-PR --- /tmp/dump..orig.8 Mon Jan 14 17:03:21 2002 +++ /tmp/dump.8 Mon Jan 14 17:49:46 2002 @@ -264,21 +264,12 @@ Is like W, but prints only those filesystems which need to be dumped. .El .Pp -.Nm Dump -honors the user +Directories and regular files which have their .Dq nodump flag .Pq Dv UF_NODUMP -on regular files and directories. -If a directory is marked -.Dq nodump , -the latter and all files and directories under it will not be backed -up. -That is, -.Nm -propagates the -.Dq nodump -flag on directories. +set will be omitted along with everything under such directories, +all subject to the -h option. .Pp .Nm Dump requires operator intervention on these conditions: @@ -386,6 +377,7 @@ .Em operator .El .Sh SEE ALSO +.Xr chflags 1 , .Xr fstab 5 , .Xr restore 8 , .Xr rmt 8 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 14 23:20: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9145637B419 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0F7K0V80443; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:20:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A77F37B400 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0F7JhS80413; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:19:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201150719.g0F7JhS80413@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:19:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Mittelstaedt To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33913 >Category: docs >Synopsis: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jan 14 23:20:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ted Mittelstaedt >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: This URL http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html is not wrapping lines when you type in a PR description in the window and you just let the window wrap the cursor, it makes them hard to read, arggggg!! >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 3: 2: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from westernstar.kendryl.net (820252.cipherkey.com [64.114.82.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D259D37B405 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 03:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 84359 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2002 11:01:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO admin) (192.168.0.116) by 820252.cipherkey.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2002 11:01:53 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c19db4$0a27f730$7400a8c0@admin> Reply-To: "Victoria Chan" From: "Victoria Chan" To: Subject: Java documentation for FreeBSd Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 03:01:51 -0800 Organization: kendryl.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C19D70.FACE8120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C19D70.FACE8120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having recently built Java JDK-1.3.1_02 for FreeBSD and = Jakarta-Tomcat-4.0.1, I have outlined a detailed roadmap of how it is = done. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C19D70.FACE8120-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 3:12:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ida.interface-business.de (ida.interface-business.de [193.101.57.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092A937B416 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 03:12:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from j@localhost) by ida.interface-business.de id g0FBCZP02706 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:12:35 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:12:35 +0100 From: Joerg Wunsch To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Get nothing but jade.core anymore :( Message-ID: <20020115121235.C1570@ida.interface-business.de> Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Phone: +49-351-31809-14 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Organization: interface systems GmbH, Dresden Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In order to verify a small change to the handbook someone urged me to commit, i'm trying to build it. But whatever i do, regardless of which ulimit settings or whether i'm running it on a -stable or -current machine, all i get is: /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /var/tmp/doc/en_US.IS= O8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ioutput.html.image= s -i chap.advanced-networking -i chap.basics -i chap.bibliography -i chap= .config -i chap.boot -i chap.cutting-edge -i chap.disks -i chap.eresources = -i chap.install -i chap.introduction -i chap.kernelconfig -i chap.l10n -i c= hap.linuxemu -i chap.mail -i chap.mirrors -i chap.pgpkeys -i chap.ppp-and-s= lip -i chap.printing -i chap.security -i chap.serialcomms -i chap.sound -i = chap.users -i chap.x11 -i chap.ports -D /usr/obj/var/tmp/doc/en_US.ISO8859-= 1/books/handbook -c /var/tmp/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../en= _US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /var/tmp/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/hand= book/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/mo= dular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share= /sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -t sgml /var/= tmp/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml *** Signal 11 (I've upgraded the "docproj" port before starting.) --=20 J"org Wunsch Unix support engineer joerg_wunsch@interface-systems.de http://www.interface-systems.de/~j/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 4:18:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from 217-126-145-95.uc.nombres.ttd.es (217-126-145-95.uc.nombres.ttd.es [217.126.145.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A0137B416 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 04:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phoenix.ea4els.ampr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFC43D4A for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:18:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:18:43 +0100 (CET) From: Simon J Mudd To: Subject: Help building docbook files in Spanish Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to build a docbook file in Spanish and am getting the following error: [sjmudd@unicorn docbook]$ rm article.tex [sjmudd@unicorn docbook]$ make /usr/local/bin/jade -V tex-backend -ioutput.print -d /usr/doc/share/sgml/default.dsl -V %generate-article-toc% -D /usr/obj/usr/home/sjmudd/projects/madridwireless/docbook -c /usr/doc/./share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -t tex -o article.tex /usr/home/sjmudd/projects/madridwireless/docbook/article.sgml ==> TeX pass 1/3 /usr/local/bin/tex "&jadetex" ' \nonstopmode\input{article.tex}' This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1) JadeTeX 2001/07/19: 3.11 (article.tex (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/t1ptm.fd) Elements will be labelled Jade begin document sequence at 20 (article.aux) (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/cyrillic/t2acmr.fd) (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/ts1cmr.fd) (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/nameref.sty) (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/t1phv.fd) (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/ts1phv.fd) WARNING!! patterns for spanish not in format file WARNING!! - add them in language.dat and rebuild WARNING!! patterns for spanish not in format file WARNING!! - add them in language.dat and rebuild [1.0.27] WARNING!! patterns for spanish not in format file WARNING!! - add them in language.dat and rebuild ... my article.sgml file starts:
I've modified /usr/local/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/language.dat, uncommenting the line which mentions spanish to now show: spanish sphyph.tex I'm not really sure what else to do. Relevant(?) ports installed are: docbook-3.0 docbook-4.1 docbook-xml-4.1.2 dsssl-docbook-modular-1.73 hugelatex-1.0 jade-1.2.1_1 jadetex-3.11 teTeX-1.0.7 Thanks for any pointers. Regards, Simon -- Simon J Mudd, Tel: +34-91-408 4878, Mobile: +34-605-085 219 Madrid, Spain. email: sjmudd@pobox.com, Postfix RPM Packager To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 6:40:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA7737B400; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0FEeMv48882; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:40:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:40:22 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201151440.g0FEeMv48882@freefall.freebsd.org> To: darklogik@pittgoth.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33666: pkg_create(1) should also mention pkg_update(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: pkg_create(1) should also mention pkg_update(1) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 15 06:39:39 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed to -CURRENT. Thanks :) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Jan 15 06:39:39 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33666 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 6:58:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E5237B419 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0FEsg401435; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:54:42 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:54:42 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP vs. &man.ppp.8; vs. ppp Message-ID: <20020115145442.F89034@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020114043335.GA24851@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OFj+1YLvsEfSXdCH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020114043335.GA24851@hades.hell.gr>; from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr on Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 06:33:35AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --OFj+1YLvsEfSXdCH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 06:33:35AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > I've seen user-ppp mentioned in many ways in the FAQ. > What do you all think of the diff at > http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/diff/29.faq-ppp.diff ? >=20 > The idea behind the changes is that when the protocol is what we are > talking about, we use `PPP', but when the program ppp(8) is being > referred to, we use &man.ppp.8; instead. Looks OK from here. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --OFj+1YLvsEfSXdCH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxEQrEACgkQk6gHZCw343UPvgCfQ6rlZyd23e4SSuei+dsJt2Zs De0An1L6g1AUGcOA1WDKTt66noSi1qlr =fOjc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OFj+1YLvsEfSXdCH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 7:32:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C61137B416; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 07:32:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0FFWJU50884; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 07:32:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 07:32:19 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201151532.g0FFWJU50884@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tedm@toybox.placo.com, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 15 07:28:45 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: This is not a problem with interface, but rather with your client software (I guess that was IE or Mozilla?). Both lynx(1) and links(1) I've tried as well correctly display line wrapping by hiding the beginning of the line and not automatically wrapping the rest to the next line. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33913 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 10:57:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA9437B416 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:57:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0FIXeV45560; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:33:40 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:33:40 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Get nothing but jade.core anymore :( Message-ID: <20020115183340.K89034@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020115121235.C1570@ida.interface-business.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xtmLDbP6TiKhntQb" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020115121235.C1570@ida.interface-business.de>; from j@ida.interface-business.de on Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:12:35PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --xtmLDbP6TiKhntQb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 12:12:35PM +0100, Joerg Wunsch wrote: > In order to verify a small change to the handbook someone urged me to > commit, i'm trying to build it. But whatever i do, regardless of > which ulimit settings or whether i'm running it on a -stable or > -current machine, all i get is: >=20 > /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /var/tmp/doc/en_US.= ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ioutput.html.ima= ges -i chap.advanced-networking -i chap.basics -i chap.bibliography -i ch= ap.config -i chap.boot -i chap.cutting-edge -i chap.disks -i chap.eresource= s -i chap.install -i chap.introduction -i chap.kernelconfig -i chap.l10n -i= chap.linuxemu -i chap.mail -i chap.mirrors -i chap.pgpkeys -i chap.ppp-and= -slip -i chap.printing -i chap.security -i chap.serialcomms -i chap.sound -= i chap.users -i chap.x11 -i chap.ports -D /usr/obj/var/tmp/doc/en_US.ISO885= 9-1/books/handbook -c /var/tmp/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../= en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /var/tmp/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ha= ndbook/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/= modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/sha= re/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -t sgml /va= r/tmp/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml > *** Signal 11 I can't reproduce this on a reasonable up to date -stable box and a current docproj port install. # make clean # /usr/bin/time -lh make book.html ... /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null book.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) 1m48.12s real 1m45.57s user 2.06s sys 37812 maximum resident set size 309 average shared memory size 28965 average unshared data size 317 average unshared stack size 33044 page reclaims 52 page faults 0 swaps 4 block input operations 134 block output operations 0 messages sent 0 messages received 0 signals received 725 voluntary context switches 1657 involuntary context switches Do any of the other books or articles build correctly? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --xtmLDbP6TiKhntQb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxEdgMACgkQk6gHZCw343UaKQCgiCx/Sg2bXJuO+jQWUQfXjs2a iOoAn1XtGw72a9RbHyXXyns/K+Oi4eFw =oBEJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xtmLDbP6TiKhntQb-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 12:49:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from www.unsam.edu.ar (ns2.unsam.edu.ar [170.210.48.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 433A237B402 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:49:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar (pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar [192.168.10.11]) by www.unsam.edu.ar (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA39718 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:49:01 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fernan@pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: (from fernan@localhost) by pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g0FKmp775033 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:48:51 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fernan) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:48:51 -0300 From: Fernan Aguero To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [off topic?] sgml/xml editor for docproj documents? Message-ID: <20020115174851.D64862@iib.unsam.edu.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-PGP-Key: http://genoma.unsam.edu.ar/~fernan/pubkey.asc Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry if this is off-topic. I am going through the docproj documentation. I am fairly new to both SGML/XML and everything seems to make sense to me right now. My question goes to the following. As I do with HTML I can type the tags myself:
etc. However this becomes stressing after a while. So my question is: is there any text editor that supports efficient SGML editing? Right now I am thinking not only about syntax highlighting, but also about auto-completion of tags based on a DTD (so you don't have to type them fully), or perhaps auto-insertion of tags with certain key combinations (perhaps the most used tags)? What do people at doc@freebsd use for editing the handbook and other articles? emacs? vi? other editors that I haven't heard of? My question also arose because there is nothing mentioned on this topic on the documentation on how to write documentation. Thanks in advance for your help, and apologies if this is not on topic for this list. Fernan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 12:53:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F4A37B405 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:53:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0FKrOk22408; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:53:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:53:24 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Fernan Aguero Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [off topic?] sgml/xml editor for docproj documents? Message-ID: <20020115155324.A22382@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020115174851.D64862@iib.unsam.edu.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020115174851.D64862@iib.unsam.edu.ar>; from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar on Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 05:48:51PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org emacs with psgml-emacs works well for me. See the FDP for some more emacs/sgml hints. On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 05:48:51PM -0300, Fernan Aguero wrote: > Sorry if this is off-topic. > > I am going through the docproj documentation. I am fairly new to both > SGML/XML and everything seems to make sense to me right now. > > My question goes to the following. As I do with HTML I can type the > tags myself: > >
> > etc. > > However this becomes stressing after a while. So my question is: > is there any text editor that supports efficient SGML editing? > Right now I am thinking not only about syntax highlighting, but also > about auto-completion of tags based on a DTD (so you don't have to > type them fully), or perhaps auto-insertion of tags with certain key > combinations (perhaps the most used tags)? > > What do people at doc@freebsd use for editing the handbook and other > articles? emacs? vi? other editors that I haven't heard of? > > My question also arose because there is nothing mentioned on this > topic on the documentation on how to write documentation. > > Thanks in advance for your help, and apologies if this is not on topic > for this list. > > Fernan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 15:24:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA39B37B420 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:24:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::130]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD83D24D4C; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:24:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::160]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED731E46E8; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:24:32 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:24:30 +0900 Message-ID: <7mpu4bi4ep.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Joerg Wunsch , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Get nothing but jade.core anymore :( In-Reply-To: <20020115183340.K89034@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020115121235.C1570@ida.interface-business.de> <20020115183340.K89034@clan.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/21.1 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOC1MWhsoQg==?=) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:57:40 +0000 (UTC), nik wrote: > I can't reproduce this on a reasonable up to date -stable box and a > current docproj port install. I'm using openjade on my -current box, but it built cleanly. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 15:41:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADE337B400 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from blackbox.pacbell.net ([64.166.86.21]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GQ000AGK74U0W@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mikem@localhost) by blackbox.pacbell.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0FNfRM23681; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:41:27 -0800 (PST envelope-from mikem) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:41:27 -0800 From: Mike Makonnen Subject: Can you take a look at docs/33784 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-id: <200201152341.g0FNfRM23681@blackbox.pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd5.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When someone has time can you take a look at this PR? It corrects an oversight in the cron(8) man page. It would be nice if you could get it in before 4.5. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=docs/33784 thanks, mike makonnen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 16: 0: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E31A37B41A for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0G001723206; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:00:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201160000.g0G001723206@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/33390: Markup fix for tuning.7 Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33390; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ceri Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33390: Markup fix for tuning.7 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:09:53 +0200 > tuning.7 contains two strange pieces of markup regarding /var/tmp. > I can see why it's been done, since the author clearly wishes to refer to > /tmp and/or /var/tmp, but it looks horrific : [/var]/tmp How about explicitly mentioning both directories in something like: temporary directories (usually .Pa /var/tmp or .Pa /tmp ")." Does this look better to you? Although I have to admit that [/var]/tmp does not look that bad. Brackets are customarily used to denote optional parts in several places (command line arguments in SYNOPSIS sections, for example). -- Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org} FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 16:38: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vzavenue.net (mail.vzavenue.net [66.171.36.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7466537B404 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from typhoon.awod.com (66-171-38-80.subscriber.vzavenue.net [66.171.38.80] (may be forged)) by mail.vzavenue.net (Mirapoint) with SMTP id AEB56878; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:38:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020115193428.03e95cf0@mail.awod.com> X-Sender: lam@mail.awod.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:35:48 -0500 To: doc@freebsd.org From: Ken Lam Subject: FreeBSD and .NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Online article (also in print in Infoworld Jan 14, 2002 pg 18: ".Net Seeks Linux, OS X adoption") http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/01/09/020109hnmsnet.xml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 22:32:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB78137B402; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g0G6WdR75936; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:32:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Cc: Subject: RE: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:32:38 -0800 Message-ID: <001201c19e57$97d13c60$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200201151532.g0FFWJU50884@freefall.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is not a brower problem, it is because the GNATS interface HTML has a coding error. The relevant HTML on http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html SHOULD BE as follows:
Full Description:

How to repeat the problem:

Fix to the problem if known:

Note the addition of the "wrap" directive. Ted Mittelstaedt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 22:40: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1696537B402 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0G6e1L02109; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:40:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201160640.g0G6e1L02109@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Subject: RE: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Reply-To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33913; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , Cc: Subject: RE: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:32:38 -0800 This is not a brower problem, it is because the GNATS interface HTML has a coding error. The relevant HTML on http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html SHOULD BE as follows:
Full Description:

How to repeat the problem:

Fix to the problem if known:

Note the addition of the "wrap" directive. Ted Mittelstaedt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 23:44:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from excalibur.insidecrew.net (excalibur.insidecrew.net [209.10.167.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB5037B405 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by excalibur.insidecrew.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g0G7kwl78069; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:46:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from nobody) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:46:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200201160746.g0G7kwl78069@excalibur.insidecrew.net> To: doc@freebsd.org From: jade@liveteens.com () Subject: LIVE TEENS GETTING WILD, free signup! Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by (jade@liveteens.com) on Wednesday, January 16, 2002 at 02:46:58 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- : If you want live, wild teens on their webcams you should check this out , signup is free just use your credit card to verify your age and you're in. And best of all they're real people, you can enter a 1 on 1 session and might meet the someone to fulfill all your fantasies. If it's celebs you're looking for, look no farther than here , We even have the rare Brittany/Justin video set, No credit card required!!! You received this e-mail because you were added to our monthly mailing list, if you want to be removed simply e-mail mail@angelteen.com with the subject "REMOVE". --------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 15 23:55:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACDE37B41C for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11085 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2002 07:55:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.dub.net) ([216.27.176.75]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Jan 2002 07:55:46 -0000 Received: by helios.dub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2334312A; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:55:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:55:45 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Message-ID: <20020116075545.GB65740@helios.dub.net> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <200201151532.g0FFWJU50884@freefall.freebsd.org> <001201c19e57$97d13c60$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001201c19e57$97d13c60$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 at 22:32:38 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > This is not a brower problem, it is because > the GNATS interface HTML has a coding error. > > The relevant HTML on http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html SHOULD BE as follows: > >
> Full Description:
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> How to repeat the problem:
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> type="RESET" value="Reset"> > > Note the addition of the "wrap" directive. The wrap attribute is not valid in HTML 4.01. - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 0: 0:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1BB37B423 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 00:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0G807A17201; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 00:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 00:00:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201160800.g0G807A17201@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Jim Mock Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Reply-To: Jim Mock Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33913; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Jim Mock To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:55:45 -0800 On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 at 22:32:38 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > This is not a brower problem, it is because > the GNATS interface HTML has a coding error. > > The relevant HTML on http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html SHOULD BE as follows: > >
> Full Description:
>
> How to repeat the problem:
>
> Fix to the problem if known:
>
> type="RESET" value="Reset"> > > Note the addition of the "wrap" directive. The wrap attribute is not valid in HTML 4.01. - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 1: 7: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E784A37B41A; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:06:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g0G96mR76175; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:06:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Cc: , , Subject: RE: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:06:48 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c19e6d$20c9bb40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20020116075545.GB65740@helios.dub.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Mock [mailto:mij@soupnazi.org] >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:56 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org; freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; >freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines > >> >> Note the addition of the "wrap" directive. > >The wrap attribute is not valid in HTML 4.01. > It was not my intent to start a religious argument. User input code that doesen't massage the input is a coding error - what happens if some joker decides to put in a javascript in a PR that does something nasty? Are we checking for that? The wrap attribute was NEVER valid in any HTML spec. It is and remains a quick hack to get out of massaging user input. Obviously the best way to solve this would be to further process the user input on the webform to insert linebreaks in case someone uses a browser that doesen't do what the code expects is "right" But if nobody writes one then what's wrong with a quick hack? The PR database already has a lot of these unwrapped entries with lines that scroll off the side of the screen. Which is more important - making PR's readable or being "right"? Ted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 1:10:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE0437B417 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:10:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0G9A8p32635; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:10:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:10:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201160910.g0G9A8p32635@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Subject: RE: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Reply-To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33913; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Cc: , , Subject: RE: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:06:48 -0800 >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Mock [mailto:mij@soupnazi.org] >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:56 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org; freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; >freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines > >> >> Note the addition of the "wrap" directive. > >The wrap attribute is not valid in HTML 4.01. > It was not my intent to start a religious argument. User input code that doesen't massage the input is a coding error - what happens if some joker decides to put in a javascript in a PR that does something nasty? Are we checking for that? The wrap attribute was NEVER valid in any HTML spec. It is and remains a quick hack to get out of massaging user input. Obviously the best way to solve this would be to further process the user input on the webform to insert linebreaks in case someone uses a browser that doesen't do what the code expects is "right" But if nobody writes one then what's wrong with a quick hack? The PR database already has a lot of these unwrapped entries with lines that scroll off the side of the screen. Which is more important - making PR's readable or being "right"? Ted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 1:15:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390DB37B400 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13306 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2002 09:15:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.dub.net) ([216.27.176.75]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Jan 2002 09:15:34 -0000 Received: by helios.dub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BB67F312A; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:15:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:15:33 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Message-ID: <20020116091533.GA66873@helios.dub.net> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <20020116075545.GB65740@helios.dub.net> <000001c19e6d$20c9bb40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c19e6d$20c9bb40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 at 01:06:48 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jim Mock [mailto:mij@soupnazi.org] > >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:56 PM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org; freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; > >freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org > >Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines > > > >> > >> Note the addition of the "wrap" directive. > > > >The wrap attribute is not valid in HTML 4.01. > > > > It was not my intent to start a religious argument. User input code > that doesen't massage the input is a coding error - what happens if > some joker decides to put in a javascript in a PR that does something > nasty? Are we checking for that? You'd have to check dosendpr.cgi. > The wrap attribute was NEVER valid in any HTML spec. It is and > remains a quick hack to get out of massaging user input. > > Obviously the best way to solve this would be to further process the > user input on the webform to insert linebreaks in case someone uses a > browser that doesen't do what the code expects is "right" > > But if nobody writes one then what's wrong with a quick hack? What's wrong with it is that when the web site is built, the code is validated, and if non-existant stuff is found, the build fails. If we add the wrap attribute, the build will fail because it isn't valid. > The PR database already has a lot of these unwrapped entries with > lines that scroll off the side of the screen. Which is more important > - making PR's readable or being "right"? That's what horizontal scroll is for :-) Seriously though, patches are welcome to make things readable, but yes, it also must be "right" or there will be problems with the build. - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 1:20: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF87E37B419 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0G9K1d33806; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201160920.g0G9K1d33806@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Jim Mock Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Reply-To: Jim Mock Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33913; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Jim Mock To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:15:33 -0800 On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 at 01:06:48 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jim Mock [mailto:mij@soupnazi.org] > >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:56 PM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org; freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; > >freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org > >Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines > > > >> > >> Note the addition of the "wrap" directive. > > > >The wrap attribute is not valid in HTML 4.01. > > > > It was not my intent to start a religious argument. User input code > that doesen't massage the input is a coding error - what happens if > some joker decides to put in a javascript in a PR that does something > nasty? Are we checking for that? You'd have to check dosendpr.cgi. > The wrap attribute was NEVER valid in any HTML spec. It is and > remains a quick hack to get out of massaging user input. > > Obviously the best way to solve this would be to further process the > user input on the webform to insert linebreaks in case someone uses a > browser that doesen't do what the code expects is "right" > > But if nobody writes one then what's wrong with a quick hack? What's wrong with it is that when the web site is built, the code is validated, and if non-existant stuff is found, the build fails. If we add the wrap attribute, the build will fail because it isn't valid. > The PR database already has a lot of these unwrapped entries with > lines that scroll off the side of the screen. Which is more important > - making PR's readable or being "right"? That's what horizontal scroll is for :-) Seriously though, patches are welcome to make things readable, but yes, it also must be "right" or there will be problems with the build. - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 1:24:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A2CE37B419 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25415 invoked by uid 0); 16 Jan 2002 09:24:34 -0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:24:34 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Sappl To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Getting involved! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated-Sender: #0012186241@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [193.170.47.42] Message-ID: <6684.1011173074@www50.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HI there evrybody! After working with FreeBSD some month, I've decided to join the Doc Project and getting involved! But there are several questions: first of all, do you currently need any help translating Doc to German (that's my language)! If, then I'd prefer to translate maybe the Installation Process (I think, you need work there...) or something else! Hope you'll welcome me and give me some work Thomas -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 1:35:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249C637B405; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:35:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id g0G9ZjR76221; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:35:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Cc: , , Subject: RE: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:35:45 -0800 Message-ID: <000201c19e71$2c3be3a0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20020116091533.GA66873@helios.dub.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Mock [mailto:mij@soupnazi.org] >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:16 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org; freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; >freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines > > >That's what horizontal scroll is for :-) Or I could always put the monitor on it's side... >Seriously though, patches are >welcome to make things readable, but yes, it also must be "right" or >there will be problems with the build. Then can we at least put a sentence on the entry page there that says: "Note: Lines entered are NOT automatically wrapped!" preferably in between the "Full Description:" and the textbox, the "How to repeat the problem: and the textbox, and the "Fix to the problem if known: line and the textbox. That, at least, might catch a few entries. Ted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 1:40: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A34037B419 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0G9e3h36365; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201160940.g0G9e3h36365@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Subject: RE: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Reply-To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33913; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Cc: , , Subject: RE: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:35:45 -0800 >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Mock [mailto:mij@soupnazi.org] >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:16 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org; freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; >freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines > > >That's what horizontal scroll is for :-) Or I could always put the monitor on it's side... >Seriously though, patches are >welcome to make things readable, but yes, it also must be "right" or >there will be problems with the build. Then can we at least put a sentence on the entry page there that says: "Note: Lines entered are NOT automatically wrapped!" preferably in between the "Full Description:" and the textbox, the "How to repeat the problem: and the textbox, and the "Fix to the problem if known: line and the textbox. That, at least, might catch a few entries. Ted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 2:10:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB0237B41F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GAAAg44015; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:10:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:10:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201161010.g0GAAAg44015@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ceri Subject: Re: docs/33390: Markup fix for tuning.7 Reply-To: Ceri Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33390; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33390: Markup fix for tuning.7 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:04:12 +0000 On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 06:09:53PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > temporary directories (usually > .Pa /var/tmp > or > .Pa /tmp ")." > > Does this look better to you? If it doesn't impact readability, yeah. > Although I have to admit that [/var]/tmp does not look that bad. It looks absolutely gross on my console. As I mentioned in the PR, if it's ok then it's ok - I think maybe I has a hangover that day or something.. > Brackets are customarily used to denote optional parts in several > places (command line arguments in SYNOPSIS sections, for example). Yes, but they're technical specifications almost. This appears in a free-form text area. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 2:10:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E2237B421 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GAABI44024; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:10:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571CA37B400 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 02:06:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-181.wobline.de [212.68.69.189] (may be forged)) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/tw-20010821) with ESMTP id g0GA6vc00362 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:06:57 +0100 Received: from tisys.org (howie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.3]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0GA8PX89233 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:08:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by tisys.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GA7b100931; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:07:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nils) Message-Id: <200201161007.g0GA7b100931@tisys.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:07:37 +0100 (CET) From: Nils Holland Reply-To: Nils Holland To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/33937: Add a timezone related hint to make world section of hb Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33937 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Add a timezone related hint to make world section of hb >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 16 02:10:10 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Nils Holland >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-RC i386 >Organization: Ti Systems >Environment: System: FreeBSD howie.ncptiddische.net 4.5-RC FreeBSD 4.5-RC #0: Sat Jan 12 10:37:03 CET 2002 root@poison.ncptiddische.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HOWIE i386 >Description: If a machine's time is set to local time (for example, CET) and not GMT, there is a potential that (not too dramatic, but still weird) problems may occur during a make installworld process. /usr/src/UDPATING therefore suggests that users running at local time run "adjkerntz -i" after having booted into single user mode and before starting the installworld process. However, in order to read this suggestion in UPDATING, one would have to scroll way down. Therefore, I guess the handbook should probably include the "adjkerntz -i" statement as well, and so I included it in the part that tells users how to boot into single user mode, right after the commands that are supposed to clean / mount the filesystems. >How-To-Repeat: Boot into single user mode using boot -s, install world, reboot and notice that the files you have just installed are dated one hour in the future (IF your machine is set to local time). Try the same, but run adjkerntz -i before installworld and everything will be fine. Browse through /usr/src/UPDATING and see that somewhere, near the part on going from 3.x to 4.x, it also suggests local-time users to run adjkerntz -i, so I guess we should do the same ;-) (NOTE: To actually run into problems with this, you'd have to try to install certain ports, which will fail until the timestamp of the files installed by installworld is past ;-) >Fix: The following patch, applied to handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml fixes it ;-) *** chapter.sgml Wed Jan 16 10:27:30 2002 --- chapter-new Wed Jan 16 10:57:24 2002 *************** *** 754,759 **** --- 754,769 ---- This checks the filesystems, remounts / read/write, mounts all the other UFS filesystems referenced in /etc/fstab and then turns swapping on. + + If your CMOS clock is set to local time and not to GMT, + you should also run the following command: + &prompt.root; adjkerntz -i + + This will make sure that your local timezone settings + get set up correctly - without this, you may later run into some + not dramatic, but still weird problems. + + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 3:19:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ida.interface-business.de (ida.interface-business.de [193.101.57.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6C637B404 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 03:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from j@localhost) by ida.interface-business.de id g0GBJe413187; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:19:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:19:40 +0100 From: Joerg Wunsch To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Get nothing but jade.core anymore :( Message-ID: <20020116121940.G12505@ida.interface-business.de> Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <20020115121235.C1570@ida.interface-business.de> <20020115183340.K89034@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <7mpu4bi4ep.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <7mpu4bi4ep.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 08:24:30AM +0900 X-Phone: +49-351-31809-14 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Organization: interface systems GmbH, Dresden Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > I can't reproduce this on a reasonable up to date -stable box and a > > current docproj port install. > > I'm using openjade on my -current box, but it built cleanly. Perhaps some of the shared libs used by jade are too old. If i interpret the coredump correctly, it ends up in a recursion loop interpreting the SGML. I'll try deinstalling everything, and rebuild all the dependant ports from scratch. -- J"org Wunsch Unix support engineer joerg_wunsch@interface-systems.de http://www.interface-systems.de/~j/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 3:20: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A2A37B416 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 03:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GBK2T61808; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 03:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 03:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201161120.g0GBK2T61808@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: docs/33937: Add a timezone related hint to make world section of hb Reply-To: Ruslan Ermilov Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33937; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Nils Holland Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33937: Add a timezone related hint to make world section of hb Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:09:36 +0200 This info indeed should be added, thanks! On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 11:07:37AM +0100, Nils Holland wrote: > > *** chapter.sgml Wed Jan 16 10:27:30 2002 > --- chapter-new Wed Jan 16 10:57:24 2002 > *************** > *** 754,759 **** > --- 754,769 ---- > This checks the filesystems, remounts / > read/write, mounts all the other UFS filesystems referenced in > /etc/fstab and then turns swapping on. > + > + If your CMOS clock is set to local time and not to GMT, > + you should also run the following command: > + &prompt.root; adjkerntz -i > + > + This will make sure that your local timezone settings > + get set up correctly - without this, you may later run into some > + not dramatic, but still weird problems. > + > + > > > -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 6:15:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1173937B417; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GEF8T16884; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:15:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:15:08 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201161415.g0GEF8T16884@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mike_makonnen@yahoo.com, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33784: [PATCH] Cron man page is incomplete Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Cron man page is incomplete State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Wed Jan 16 06:13:58 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: A slightly modified version of your patch committed to HEAD and RELENG_4, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jan 16 06:13:58 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33784 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 6:22: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA11337B404; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GELrK18719; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:21:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:21:53 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201161421.g0GELrK18719@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33390: Markup fix for tuning.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Markup fix for tuning.7 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Wed Jan 16 06:21:06 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Originator didn't mind to leave this as is, and I feel like that. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jan 16 06:21:06 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33390 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 6:58:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DF537B405; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GEwkY49991; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:58:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:58:46 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201161458.g0GEwkY49991@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/30731: printf(1) refers to ANSI C Standard draft Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: printf(1) refers to ANSI C Standard draft Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jan 16 06:58:34 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30731 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 6:58:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE0F37B417; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GEwVK49465; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:58:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:58:31 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201161458.g0GEwVK49465@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tim@robbins.dropbear.id.au, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/30731: printf(1) refers to ANSI C Standard draft Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: printf(1) refers to ANSI C Standard draft State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Wed Jan 16 06:58:03 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30731 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 7: 3:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4515D37B405; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:03:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GF35b50925; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:03:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:03:06 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201161503.g0GF35b50925@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, des@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33640: fetch(1) is silent about SIGINFO Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fetch(1) is silent about SIGINFO Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->des Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jan 16 07:02:06 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: DES, let me know if you like the wording, and I will fix the formatting part and commit. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33640 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 7: 5:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3FB37B420; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GF5Hp52703; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:05:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:05:17 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201161505.g0GF5Hp52703@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, assar@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33645: k5list(1) contains many incorrect "klist" entries. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: k5list(1) contains many incorrect "klist" entries. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->assar Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jan 16 07:04:25 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assar, could you please fix this and commit the fix on the vendor and RELENG_4 branches (if re@ approves). http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33645 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 7:10:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707DD37B400; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:10:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GF5Hp52703; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:05:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:05:17 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201161505.g0GF5Hp52703@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, assar@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33645: k5list(1) contains many incorrect "klist" entries. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: k5list(1) contains many incorrect "klist" entries. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->assar Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jan 16 07:04:25 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assar, could you please fix this and commit the fix on the vendor and RELENG_4 branches (if re@ approves). http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33645 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 7:36:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5518137B404; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id DA2C414C5A; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:14:44 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/33640: fetch(1) is silent about SIGINFO References: <200201161503.g0GF35b50925@freefall.freebsd.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Jan 2002 16:14:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200201161503.g0GF35b50925@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org writes: > DES, let me know if you like the wording, and I will fix > the formatting part and commit. Please move "signal" before the parenthesis. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 7:38:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ida.interface-business.de (ida.interface-business.de [193.101.57.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8634237B404; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from j@localhost) by ida.interface-business.de id g0GFcIS41556; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:38:18 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:38:18 +0100 From: Joerg Wunsch To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Get nothing but jade.core anymore :( Message-ID: <20020116163818.A41531@ida.interface-business.de> Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <20020115121235.C1570@ida.interface-business.de> <20020115183340.K89034@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020115183340.K89034@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 06:33:40PM +0000 X-Phone: +49-351-31809-14 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Organization: interface systems GmbH, Dresden Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Nik Clayton wrote: > Do any of the other books or articles build correctly? All other books seem to build correctly. It's only the handbook that falls over. It stumples across a variety of signals, ranging from 4 over 10 through 11 (depending on the time of day, phase of the moon, probably the ulimit setting). No, the machine doesn't have broken RAM :), it's my paywork workstation and usually runs with uptimes in the range of several months. Very strange. -- J"org Wunsch Unix support engineer joerg_wunsch@interface-systems.de http://www.interface-systems.de/~j/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 7:44:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A5B37B405 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0GFjND63028; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:45:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C45A1C6.5040001@pittgoth.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:52:38 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Sappl Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Getting involved! References: <6684.1011173074@www50.gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thomas Sappl wrote: > HI there evrybody! > > After working with FreeBSD some month, I've decided to join the Doc Project > and getting involved! > > > But there are several questions: > first of all, do you currently need any help translating Doc to German > (that's my language)! If, then I'd prefer to translate maybe the > Installation > Process (I think, you need work there...) or something else! > > Hope you'll welcome me and give me some work > > Thomas > > > > ja bitte, We could always use any help here, your best bet is to read over the Project Primer located on the project page (its hard to find, listed under SGML and the Documentation Project. It will contain most of the information you need :) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 7:51:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C751237B41C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0GFqjD63044; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:52:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C45A37F.4030506@pittgoth.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:59:59 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Get nothing but jade.core anymore :( References: <20020115121235.C1570@ida.interface-business.de> <20020115183340.K89034@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <7mpu4bi4ep.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20020116121940.G12505@ida.interface-business.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joerg Wunsch wrote: > As Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > >>>I can't reproduce this on a reasonable up to date -stable box and a >>>current docproj port install. >>> >>I'm using openjade on my -current box, but it built cleanly. >> > > Perhaps some of the shared libs used by jade are too old. If i > interpret the coredump correctly, it ends up in a recursion loop > interpreting the SGML. > > I'll try deinstalling everything, and rebuild all the dependant ports > from scratch. > > How about portupgrade? Have it check all the ports and depends, and it should detect stales, clean everything up. Check it out in the sysutils/portupgrade Its useful :) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 7:56: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ida.interface-business.de (ida.interface-business.de [193.101.57.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE4E37B417 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from j@localhost) by ida.interface-business.de id g0GFtvP44167; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:55:57 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:55:57 +0100 From: Joerg Wunsch To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Get nothing but jade.core anymore :( Message-ID: <20020116165557.K12505@ida.interface-business.de> Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <20020115121235.C1570@ida.interface-business.de> <20020115183340.K89034@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <7mpu4bi4ep.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20020116121940.G12505@ida.interface-business.de> <3C45A37F.4030506@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C45A37F.4030506@pittgoth.com>; from darklogik@pittgoth.com on Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 10:59:59AM -0500 X-Phone: +49-351-31809-14 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Organization: interface systems GmbH, Dresden Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Tom Rhodes wrote: > > I'll try deinstalling everything, and rebuild all the dependant ports > > from scratch. > How about portupgrade? Have it check all the ports and depends, and it > should detect stales, clean everything up. Check it out in the > sysutils/portupgrade Its useful :) I can try this. However, since all the (non-system) shared libs required by jade are part of jade itself, and it's only jade itself that dumps core, i guess this won't really solve my problem. I'll give openjade a try. -- J"org Wunsch Unix support engineer joerg_wunsch@interface-systems.de http://www.interface-systems.de/~j/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 9: 7:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ida.interface-business.de (ida.interface-business.de [193.101.57.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5420137B400 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from j@localhost) by ida.interface-business.de id g0GH7oV96594 for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:07:50 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:07:50 +0100 From: Joerg Wunsch To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Get nothing but jade.core anymore :( Message-ID: <20020116180750.A96578@ida.interface-business.de> Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <20020115121235.C1570@ida.interface-business.de> <20020115183340.K89034@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <7mpu4bi4ep.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20020116121940.G12505@ida.interface-business.de> <3C45A37F.4030506@pittgoth.com> <20020116165557.K12505@ida.interface-business.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020116165557.K12505@ida.interface-business.de>; from j@ida.interface-business.de on Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 04:55:57PM +0100 X-Phone: +49-351-31809-14 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Organization: interface systems GmbH, Dresden Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Joerg Wunsch wrote: > I'll give openjade a try. For whatever reason, but that proves to work. -- J"org Wunsch Unix support engineer joerg_wunsch@interface-systems.de http://www.interface-systems.de/~j/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 11: 8:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from www.unsam.edu.ar (ns2.unsam.edu.ar [170.210.48.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6A737B41A; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar (pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar [192.168.10.11]) by www.unsam.edu.ar (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA53403; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:08:37 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fernan@pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: (from fernan@localhost) by pi.iib.unsam.edu.ar (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g0GJ8Qv36226; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:08:26 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fernan) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:08:26 -0300 From: Fernan Aguero To: ports@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [porter's handbook] problems generating pkg-plist automagically Message-ID: <20020116160826.E2966@iib.unsam.edu.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-PGP-Key: http://genoma.unsam.edu.ar/~fernan/pubkey.asc Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all! After solving my configure/build problems I am now tweaking the port's Makefile to install the documentation properly, and also trying to generate the pkg-plist file. (kaptain port, see recent thread) In short I'm following the examples at the porter's handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/porting-autoplist.html but it seems that the following make target does not exist: # make depends PREFIX=/var/tmp/kaptain I've read through bsd.port.mk and it's not listed as a valid target. Doing a make depends just list the dependencies found, but does not produce any other output. Also /var/tmp/kaptain keeps unchanged. Doing a make, or make install using the mentioned PREFIX produces an error: "no KDE2 includes are at PREFIX ..." Is this a documentation bug? Anyway. Skipping the automatic generation of plist ... everything works cleanly, and I'm creating the pkg-plist file manually. Regarding the documentation: there are no man pages in my port, but a doc/ directory under WRKSRC with a Makefile, some subdeirectories, each with their own Makefile ... everything is html, txt, images ... Question: Do I let the Makefiles do their job and put everything under usr/local/doc)? AFAICS kaptain is the only subdir there and most ports install documentation under /usr/local/share/doc How do I change this behaviour? I've seen no configure args that could be pass to change this (but maybe I'm just missing them) ... According to the porter's handbook, I could do something like: post-install: .if !defined(NOPORTDOCS) ${MKDIR} ${PREFIX}/share/doc/${PORTNAME} ${INSTALL_DATA} ${WRKSRC}/docs/* ${PREFIX}/share/doc/${PORTNAME} .endif (which is similar but not identical to the example in the handbook) This is choking on me: error: unexpected "(" in .if !defined(NOPORTDOCS) Anyway, everything is working and I am just trying to get everything as good as I can. This is my first port! Fernan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 12:56:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from marvin.nildram.co.uk (marvin.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F71C37B417 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27146 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2002 20:56:02 -0000 Received: from muttley.gotadsl.co.uk (HELO VicNBob) (213.208.123.26) by marvin.nildram.co.uk with SMTP; 16 Jan 2002 20:56:02 -0000 From: Matthew Whelan To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "John Nielsen" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:55:53 -0000 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <080801c19e6e$4712f360$0900a8c0@max> Message-Id: Subject: Re: typo in man ed (4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------DI8Hk+OxDPTC0PXfZp0SoI" X-Mailer: Opera 6.0 build 1010 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------------DI8Hk+OxDPTC0PXfZp0SoI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" CC'ed to docs@ who should be interested 16/01/2002 09:15:01, "John Nielsen" wrote: >This is something that's bitten me on the two occasions I've needed to use >it, so I'm hoping it can get fixed. > >In the CAVEATS section of the ed (4) manpage, it says this: > > 16bit Compex cards identify themselves as being 8bit. While these >cards > will work in 8bit mode, much higher performance can be achieved by >speci- > fying "flags 0x04" (force 16bit mode) in your kernel config file. In >addi- > tion, you should also specify "iosize 16384" to take advantage of the >extra > 8k of shared memory that 16bit mode provides. > >If you put the word "iosize" in a kernel config file it produces a syntax >error. It should be "iosiz" (without the 'e'). > >I'm not familiar with the procedure(s) for fixing typos like this, but if >one of you could enlighten me and/or just take care of it I'd be >appreciative. Thanks, > >JN Source for ed(4) is /usr/src/share/man/man4/ed.4, the attached patch should fix the problem. Normal procedure for getting this addressed would be to fire a mail at docs@ (as it is a documentation problem) and/or file a PR (using send-pr or http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html) Yours, Matthew ------------DI8Hk+OxDPTC0PXfZp0SoI Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ed.4.patch" Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="ed.4.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Base64 KioqIGVkLjQJV2VkIEphbiAxNiAyMDoyOToyOSAyMDAyCi0tLSBlZC40Lm5l dwlXZWQgSmFuIDE2IDIwOjMwOjA3IDIwMDIKKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqCioq KiAxNzUsMTgxICoqKioKICAuRW0gImZsYWdzIDB4MDQiCiAgKGZvcmNlIDE2 Yml0IG1vZGUpIGluIHlvdXIga2VybmVsIGNvbmZpZyBmaWxlLgogIEluIGFk ZGl0aW9uLCB5b3Ugc2hvdWxkIGFsc28gc3BlY2lmeQohIC5FbSAiaW9zaXpl IDE2Mzg0IgogIHRvIHRha2UgYWR2YW50YWdlIG9mIHRoZSBleHRyYSA4ayBv ZiBzaGFyZWQgbWVtb3J5IHRoYXQgMTZiaXQgbW9kZSBwcm92aWRlcy4KICAu U2ggQlVHUwogIFRoZQotLS0gMTc1LDE4MSAtLS0tCiAgLkVtICJmbGFncyAw eDA0IgogIChmb3JjZSAxNmJpdCBtb2RlKSBpbiB5b3VyIGtlcm5lbCBjb25m aWcgZmlsZS4KICBJbiBhZGRpdGlvbiwgeW91IHNob3VsZCBhbHNvIHNwZWNp ZnkKISAuRW0gImlvc2l6IDE2Mzg0IgogIHRvIHRha2UgYWR2YW50YWdlIG9m IHRoZSBleHRyYSA4ayBvZiBzaGFyZWQgbWVtb3J5IHRoYXQgMTZiaXQgbW9k ZSBwcm92aWRlcy4KICAuU2ggQlVHUwogIFRoZQo= ------------DI8Hk+OxDPTC0PXfZp0SoI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 12:56:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wwweasel.geeksrus.net (wwweasel.geeksrus.net [64.67.200.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6677E37B402; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alane@localhost) by wwweasel.geeksrus.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GKtrP04127; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:55:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from alane) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:55:53 -0500 From: Alan Eldridge To: Fernan Aguero Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [porter's handbook] problems generating pkg-plist automagically Message-ID: <20020116205553.GB3994@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> References: <20020116160826.E2966@iib.unsam.edu.ar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020116160826.E2966@iib.unsam.edu.ar> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 04:08:26PM -0300, Fernan Aguero wrote: >Hi all! >Regarding the documentation: there are no man pages in my port, but a >doc/ directory under WRKSRC with a Makefile, some subdeirectories, >each with their own Makefile ... everything is html, txt, images ... > >Question: Do I let the Makefiles do their job and put everything under >usr/local/doc)? AFAICS kaptain is the only subdir there and most ports >install documentation under /usr/local/share/doc 1. /usr/local/share/doc. 2. does configure take a --docdir option? 3. worst case you patch the Makefile.am or Makefile.in in the docsdir. >According to the porter's handbook, I could do something like: >post-install: > .if !defined(NOPORTDOCS) > ${MKDIR} ${PREFIX}/share/doc/${PORTNAME} > ${INSTALL_DATA} ${WRKSRC}/docs/* ${PREFIX}/share/doc/${PORTNAME} > .endif Yes, that works, too. >This is choking on me: >error: unexpected "(" in .if !defined(NOPORTDOCS) Does your .if start in the first column? Sure there's no error on the line immediately above it? (That's a weird one.) -- Alan Eldridge Pmmfmffmmfmp mmmpppppffmpmfpmpppff PmpMpmMpp ppfppp MpfpffmppmppMmpFmmMpm mfpmmmmmfpmpmpppff. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 13:25: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (chfdns02.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5E937B41A for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:24:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.48 2001/12/13 16:27:50 root Exp $) with ESMTP id VAA15575 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:24:59 GMT Received: from chlx169.ch.intel.com (chlx169.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.37]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.14 2001/01/02 18:39:59 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id OAA19163 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:24:58 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by chlx169.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id OAA30029; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:25:30 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: chlx169.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15429.61386.832401.408687@chlx169.ch.intel.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:25:30 -0700 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: fwd: Newfs(8) manpage needs updating X-Mailer: VM 6.99 under Emacs 20.7.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ not a member of this group, just forwarding from freebsd-qa since it sounds like "low hanging fruit" for 4.5-RELEASE ] ------- start of forwarded message ------- From: Hans Ottevanger Subject: Newfs(8) manpage needs updating To: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:20:53 +0100 Hi folks, The BUGS section of the manpage for newfs(8) still claims that the boot code is only able to boot from a 8K blocks/1K fragments filesystem. Fairly recently 16K/2K has become the default, also for the root filesystem, and I am quite certain that I can boot from it. Maybe this manpage can be changed before it ends up in 4.5 ? BTW. There is also a typo in the EXAMPLES section, "fragements" i.s.o. "fragments". Kind regards, Hans To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message ------- end of forwarded message ------- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, CDS - Senior CAD Engineer | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 13:40:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD7C37B420 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GLe3r37603; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FDD37B416 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:39:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GLd1137487; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:39:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201162139.g0GLd1137487@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:39:01 -0800 (PST) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/33962: ed (4) manpage says "iosize" instead of "iosiz" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33962 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ed (4) manpage says "iosize" instead of "iosiz" >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 16 13:40:03 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Nielsen >Release: 4.4-RELEASE >Organization: n/a >Environment: FreeBSD buff 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #1: Thu Jan 10 11:57:39 MST 2002 john@buff:/share/src/sys/compile/BUFF i386 >Description: In the manpage for ed(4) under CAVEATS, it says: 16bit Compex cards identify themselves as being 8bit. While these cards will work in 8bit mode, much higher performance can be achieved by specifying 'flags 0x04' (force 16bit mode) in your kernel config file. In addition, you should also specify 'iosize 16384' to take advantage of the extra 8k of shared memory that 16bit mode provides. It should say "iosiz 16384" (without the 'e'). >How-To-Repeat: man 4 ed OR run config on a kernel config file containing this line: device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 flags 0x04 irq 5 iosiz 16384 iomem 0xd8000 config will say config: line %n: syntax error >Fix: This is merely a typo in the manpage, probably long overlooked. Change should be applied to line 178 of src/share/man/man4/ed.4 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 13:41:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E8D37B402 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:41:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from max ([12.254.136.195]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020116214141.XPNA5944.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@max>; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:41:41 +0000 Message-ID: <08f401c19ed6$c4635a40$0900a8c0@max> From: "John Nielsen" To: "Matthew Whelan" Cc: References: Subject: Re: typo in man ed (4) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:42:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Whelan" To: ; "John Nielsen" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:55 PM Subject: Re: typo in man ed (4) > CC'ed to docs@ who should be interested > > 16/01/2002 09:15:01, "John Nielsen" wrote: > > >This is something that's bitten me on the two occasions I've needed to use > >it, so I'm hoping it can get fixed. > > > >In the CAVEATS section of the ed (4) manpage, it says this: > > > > 16bit Compex cards identify themselves as being 8bit. While these > >cards > > will work in 8bit mode, much higher performance can be achieved by > >speci- > > fying "flags 0x04" (force 16bit mode) in your kernel config file. In > >addi- > > tion, you should also specify "iosize 16384" to take advantage of the > >extra > > 8k of shared memory that 16bit mode provides. > > > >If you put the word "iosize" in a kernel config file it produces a syntax > >error. It should be "iosiz" (without the 'e'). > > > >I'm not familiar with the procedure(s) for fixing typos like this, but if > >one of you could enlighten me and/or just take care of it I'd be > >appreciative. Thanks, > > > >JN > > Source for ed(4) is /usr/src/share/man/man4/ed.4, the attached patch should > fix the problem. > > Normal procedure for getting this addressed would be to fire a mail at docs@ > (as it is a documentation problem) and/or file a PR (using send-pr or > http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html) Thank you Matthew. I submitted a pr on this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33962 JN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 13:50: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A61937B419 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0GLo2x38995; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201162150.g0GLo2x38995@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "John Nielsen" Subject: Re: docs/33962: ed (4) manpage says "iosize" instead of "iosiz" Reply-To: "John Nielsen" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33962; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "John Nielsen" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: docs/33962: ed (4) manpage says "iosize" instead of "iosiz" Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:45:54 -0700 Oops. The sample device ed0 line under "How-To-Repeat" will not cause a problem as written because it contains the corrected value (iosiz) instead of the one listed in the manpage (iosize). 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0100 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 21:39:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB5D37B402; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:39:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 763C14B65D; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:39:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:39:22 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Jim Mock Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Message-ID: <20020117053922.GP6073@windriver.com> References: <20020116075545.GB65740@helios.dub.net> <000001c19e6d$20c9bb40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <20020116091533.GA66873@helios.dub.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rFUhhEVnhEf/dYhU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020116091533.GA66873@helios.dub.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --rFUhhEVnhEf/dYhU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 01:15:33AM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > > The wrap attribute was NEVER valid in any HTML spec. It is and > > remains a quick hack to get out of massaging user input. > ... >=20 > What's wrong with it is that when the web site is built, the code is > validated, and if non-existant stuff is found, the build fails. If we > add the wrap attribute, the build will fail because it isn't valid. I ran into this problem a lot over the last several weeks as I was frantically trying to put up http://www.FreeBSDMall.com. Basically we're using the stock FreeBSD Web infrastructure with the following small additions to web/share/mk/web.site.mk : * Addition of a 'spellcheck' target, so that we can check the formatted output for errors before committing changes. * Addition of a 'POSTPROCESS' target, so that invalid HTML can be specified with something like=20 ""=20 A variable is set in the individual Makefiles to specify what replacement should be done. In this case, the class attribute is replaced with the invalid but highly implemented margin attributes. web.site.mk then contains the Perl or sed command line to run the regexp specified in this variable over the generated HTML file. * Various other installation tweaks for our local. The problem gets more complex for us, because we're using an application server that embeds new invalid tags to the HTML. We can use CDATA sections for some of this stuff, but that has the side effect of changing < into < and other problems that will certainly confuse the application server. If anyone is interested, I can post the diffs for the above functionality, although it is really quite trivial. I would be very interested in hearing how other people deal with these problems. In particular, I know the POSTPROCESS stuff is a big ugly hack, so I'd like to find a more SGML-friendly way to solve this problem. - Murray --rFUhhEVnhEf/dYhU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8RmOJtNcQog5FH30RAvwpAKCg9pRD4TwQRYMiQmN/3OSpD1/fIgCgo+zG jaQglJb7x8IGiYGth5K69Dw= =94ya -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rFUhhEVnhEf/dYhU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 16 21:40:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92F537B400 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0H5e2M38532; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201170540.g0H5e2M38532@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Murray Stokely Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Reply-To: Murray Stokely Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33913; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Murray Stokely To: Jim Mock Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33913: GNATS webinterface isn't wrapping lines Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:39:22 -0800 --rFUhhEVnhEf/dYhU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 01:15:33AM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > > The wrap attribute was NEVER valid in any HTML spec. It is and > > remains a quick hack to get out of massaging user input. > ... >=20 > What's wrong with it is that when the web site is built, the code is > validated, and if non-existant stuff is found, the build fails. If we > add the wrap attribute, the build will fail because it isn't valid. I ran into this problem a lot over the last several weeks as I was frantically trying to put up http://www.FreeBSDMall.com. Basically we're using the stock FreeBSD Web infrastructure with the following small additions to web/share/mk/web.site.mk : * Addition of a 'spellcheck' target, so that we can check the formatted output for errors before committing changes. * Addition of a 'POSTPROCESS' target, so that invalid HTML can be specified with something like=20 ""=20 A variable is set in the individual Makefiles to specify what replacement should be done. In this case, the class attribute is replaced with the invalid but highly implemented margin attributes. web.site.mk then contains the Perl or sed command line to run the regexp specified in this variable over the generated HTML file. * Various other installation tweaks for our local. The problem gets more complex for us, because we're using an application server that embeds new invalid tags to the HTML. 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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C19F45.1EAD05A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 8: 6:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8A937B400 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:06:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0HG6iK32398 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:06:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:06:44 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: markup for vnlru Message-ID: <20020117110644.A32325@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Guys, Would you think vnlru is a ? It certainly isn't a , or , or anything else I can think of. i.e.: + + What is vnlru? + + ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 8: 9:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B4D37B402 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0HG9LH32426 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:09:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:09:21 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, chapter 9 (System Administration) is getting pretty durn huge, and I'm about to add another Q that is FA'd. I'm considering creating a "disks & filesystems" chapter, and pulling a bunch of stuff from chapter 9 into it. A considerable portion of chapter 9 is made up of disk information, and it's all scattered throughout the chapter with little rhyme or reason. Whaddaya think? -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 8:13: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21AF37B428 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:12:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020117161233.ZYOI5944.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:12:33 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0HGCXG22369; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:12:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201171612.g0HGCXG22369@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: markup for vnlru In-reply-to: <20020117110644.A32325@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020117110644.A32325@blackhelicopters.org> Comments: In-reply-to Michael Lucas message dated "Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:06:44 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:12:33 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > Would you think vnlru is a ? It certainly isn't a , > or , or anything else I can think of. I think I used vnlru in the release notes. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 8:20:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E705037B427; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0HGK6Q32503; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:20:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:20:06 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: markup for vnlru Message-ID: <20020117112006.A32483@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020117110644.A32325@blackhelicopters.org> <200201171612.g0HGCXG22369@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201171612.g0HGCXG22369@bmah.dyndns.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 08:12:33AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 08:12:33AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > I think I used vnlru in the release notes. > Good enough, thanks! -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 8:22:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE83C37B402 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from esealnt406.al.sw.ericsson.se (ESEALNT406.al.sw.ericsson.se [153.88.251.29]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.11.0/8.11.0/WIREfire-1.3) with SMTP id g0HGMEK17620 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:22:14 +0100 (MET) Received: FROM esealnt400.al.sw.ericsson.se BY esealnt406.al.sw.ericsson.se ; Thu Jan 17 17:22:13 2002 +0100 Received: by esealnt400 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:22:13 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Erik Saure (UAB)" To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Implemented RFCs Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:21:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm not able to figure out which RFCs the different FreeBSD releases support (I'm interrested in 4.2 and also on what's new in 4.4). I think I've clicked just about all links on www.freebsd.org , but without success. Thanks for assistance. Best regards, Erik Saure. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 8:27:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3A437B416 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0HGRRr32616; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:27:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:27:26 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Erik Saure (UAB)" Cc: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: Implemented RFCs Message-ID: <20020117112726.A32600@blackhelicopters.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Erik.Saure@uab.ericsson.se on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 05:21:53PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, We don't document the system by RFC, since we support a huge number of them and that's not how people normally look for them. If you're interested in a specific feature described by a RFC, try searching by the feature name rather than the RFC describing it. If you actually compile a master list of which RFCs FreeBSD supports, we'd be interested in it. Regards, ==ml On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 05:21:53PM +0100, Erik Saure (UAB) wrote: > Hello, > > I'm not able to figure out which RFCs the different FreeBSD releases support (I'm interrested in 4.2 and also on what's new in 4.4). I think I've clicked just about all links on www.freebsd.org , but without success. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 12:40: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C0D37B41A for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0HKe2w75170; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD2937B417 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:36:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0HKalX74823; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:36:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201172036.g0HKalX74823@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:36:47 -0800 (PST) From: Steven Grady To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/34005: mmap man page description of ENOMEM is ambiguous Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34005 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mmap man page description of ENOMEM is ambiguous >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jan 17 12:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Steven Grady >Release: 4.3 >Organization: DigitalDeck, Inc. >Environment: FreeBSD inigo.digitaldeck.com 4.3-RELEASE-p20 FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE-p20 #0: Wed Nov 7 21:15:47 PST 2001 mudie@inigo.digitaldeck.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/INIGO i386 >Description: The man page says under ENOMEM: MAP_FIXED was specified and the addr parameter wasn't available, or the system has reached the per-process mmap limit specified in the vm.max_proc_mmap sysctl. MAP_ANON was specified and insufficient memory was available. This _could_ be taken to mean that the max_proc_mmap limit is only applicable when MAP_FIXED is specified. It took me a while to track down an ElectricFence failure because I misinterpreted this line. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Change to something like the following. MAP_FIXED was specified and the addr parameter wasn't available. The system has reached the per-process mmap limit specified in the vm.max_proc_mmap sysctl. MAP_ANON was specified and insufficient memory was available. (I.e. separate the max_proc_mmap line from the MAX_FIXED line, to make it clear that they are independent.) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 16:10: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D9037B416 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0I0A2T25987; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201180010.g0I0A2T25987@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: docs/30603: physio(9) is internally inconsistent Reply-To: Hiten Pandya Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/30603; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Hiten Pandya To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, chris@redlinenetworks.com Cc: Subject: Re: docs/30603: physio(9) is internally inconsistent Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:06:08 +0000 I am currently having a look into this problem. A patch should be soon submitted. This issue will take a bit time for me, but it will be fixed hopefully, before FreeBSD 4.5 is released. The structure of the physio() routine has been changed from: (as found in the src/sys/sys/buf.h header file) OLD: physio(void (*strategy)(struct buf *), struct buf *bp, dev_t dev, int flags, u_int (*minphys)(struct buf *), struct uio *uio); NEW: int physio (dev_t dev, struct uio *uio, int ioflag); The initial change was done by phk@FreeBSD.org, as he refered to it as "wash-and-clean of code". In other words, this routine has been given a makeover since the 3.5.1 release.. Saying that, this change was made 2 years ago!, and no-one noticed it till now.. thanks to chris.. The following changes were made: (according to the cvs log of revision 1.81) (I am refering to the src/sys/sys/buf.h file.. others had to be updated too..) o Let physio take read/write compatible args and have it use uio->uio_rw to determine the direction. o physread/physwrite are now #defines for physio o Remove the inversly name minphys() routine, dev->si_iosize_max takes over. o physio() always uses pbufs. o Fix the check for non page-aligned transfers, now only unaligned transfers largen than (MAXPHYS - PAGE_SIZE) get fragmented (only interesting for tapes using max blocksize). So, in a nutshell, the physio(9) man page needs a re-write, which I will do ASAP :) regards, - Hiten - -- SSH Fingerprint: 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 16:23: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fl-mta03.durocom.com (fl-mta03.durocom.com [216.53.195.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4706E37B400; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [198.69.78.81] by fl-mta03.durocom.com with SMTP id <20020118002239.HNGN2366.fl-mta03@[198.69.78.81]>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:22:39 -0500 From: rej@caae.com To: kuro18@hotmail.com Subject: Great News Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:17:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_6295_00005913.0000003E" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-Id: <20020118002239.HNGN2366.fl-mta03@[198.69.78.81]> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_000_6295_00005913.0000003E Content-Type: text/html; ViaPro

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 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 19: 5:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6437F37B404 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 915AD4B65D; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:05:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:05:54 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 11:09:21AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > chapter 9 (System Administration) is getting pretty durn huge, and I'm > about to add another Q that is FA'd. Should more of this stuff be in the Handbook, instead of the FAQ? It makes a lot of sense to split up the Handbook into multiple books once it gets too large (as it already is), but I think the FAQ should be much smaller and easier to read through. I've never seen a FAQ quite so massive as ours, unless it was also accompanied with 10+ full-length manuals. I'm certainly glad you're grabbing all of these great mailing list discussions and documenting them somewhere. Anywhere is better than having to wade through mailing list archives! - Murray --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8R5ERtNcQog5FH30RAjQ5AJ94qEukx0VE3z7qJadfNq4mpKgJjACfQwr8 z0uIpmF+DGpE1gXb9WAiFUQ= =9/fQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 19:39:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605AB37B404 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (zbay4-210.fyi.net [206.80.157.210]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0I3ecD65667; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:40:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C479A00.8050205@pittgoth.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 22:44:00 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Michael Lucas Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Murray Stokely wrote: >On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 11:09:21AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > >>chapter 9 (System Administration) is getting pretty durn huge, and I'm >>about to add another Q that is FA'd. >> > > Should more of this stuff be in the Handbook, instead of the FAQ? >It makes a lot of sense to split up the Handbook into multiple books >once it gets too large (as it already is), but I think the FAQ should >be much smaller and easier to read through. > > I've never seen a FAQ quite so massive as ours, unless it was also >accompanied with 10+ full-length manuals. > > I'm certainly glad you're grabbing all of these great mailing list >discussions and documenting them somewhere. Anywhere is better than >having to wade through mailing list archives! > > - Murray > As mentioned on the list before, the kernel config chapter needs a bit of a touch up as some options are lacking, and some are generally out of date. Currently, I have updated the information of kern.maxusers to support the pre 4.5 and the 4.5 release versions of GENERIC. I have also added the SOFTUPDATES option to the config, and next I will be working over UFS_DIRHASH, but most likly not tonight. I wish to have a diff of this chapter for review sent in tomarrow, it will not cover ALL the options, but will update ones that will surely drive new users insane (like understanding kern.maxusers and SOFTUPDATES.) I recall when I was a new user, and looking over the GENERIC file and asking myself "what does SYSV(insert option here) mean. Micheal, may I ask what sections of the handbook you will possibly be working on, if at all, I just don't really want to overwrite your work, or make a bunch of changes and have an obsolete diff right before the submission :) --Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 19:53:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EBA37B404; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020118035335.UVFK5944.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 03:53:35 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0I3rZk38880; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:53:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201180353.g0I3rZk38880@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: Hardware Notes, "Boot-time Kernel Configuration" From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 19:53:34 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all-- Unless there's any vehement objection, I'm going to remove the "Boot-time Kernel Configuration" Section from the i386 hardware notes for 4.5 (it's already gone from the alpha). It documents two things: 1) the drivers in the GENERIC kernel configuration (which is out-of-date, and doesn't cover the stripped-down kernels at all, which I think is way more critical). 2) UserConfig (which is better-described in the Handbook anyways). I'm hoping that some version of the GENERIC kernel configuration table will return (ideally, it'd also cover the kernels we put on the floppies, as well as be multi-architecture). However, it probably won't make it in time for 4.5-RELEASE, and I'd rather we send the release out with less information, rather than information that we know is wrong to begin with. Comments? Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 20:12:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A583F37B405; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 20:12:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (zbay4-210.fyi.net [206.80.157.210]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0I4DhD65717; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 23:13:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C47A1C1.60904@pittgoth.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 23:17:05 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware Notes, "Boot-time Kernel Configuration" References: <200201180353.g0I3rZk38880@bmah.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bruce A. Mah wrote: >Hi all-- > >Unless there's any vehement objection, I'm going to remove the >"Boot-time Kernel Configuration" Section from the i386 hardware notes >for 4.5 (it's already gone from the alpha). It documents two things: 1) >the drivers in the GENERIC kernel configuration (which is out-of-date, >and doesn't cover the stripped-down kernels at all, which I think is way >more critical). 2) UserConfig (which is better-described in the >Handbook anyways). > >I'm hoping that some version of the GENERIC kernel configuration table >will return (ideally, it'd also cover the kernels we put on the >floppies, as well as be multi-architecture). However, it probably won't >make it in time for 4.5-RELEASE, and I'd rather we send the release out >with less information, rather than information that we know is wrong to >begin with. > >Comments? > >Bruce. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > You will obtain praise from me, mainly the last note is very important to me as a user, I would rather have little documentation than alot of incorrect documentation. Maybe some day we can put this Generic kernel configuration table somewhere in the handbook, opinions? --Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 17 23:23: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F31137B420; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 23:22:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0I7Mvd91154; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:22:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:22:57 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware Notes, "Boot-time Kernel Configuration" Message-ID: <20020118082257.E91029@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200201180353.g0I3rZk38880@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201180353.g0I3rZk38880@bmah.dyndns.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 07:53:34PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 07:53:34PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Hi all-- > > Unless there's any vehement objection, I'm going to remove the > "Boot-time Kernel Configuration" Section from the i386 hardware notes > for 4.5 (it's already gone from the alpha). It documents two things: 1) > the drivers in the GENERIC kernel configuration (which is out-of-date, > and doesn't cover the stripped-down kernels at all, which I think is way > more critical). 2) UserConfig (which is better-described in the > Handbook anyways). > > I'm hoping that some version of the GENERIC kernel configuration table > will return (ideally, it'd also cover the kernels we put on the > floppies, as well as be multi-architecture). However, it probably won't > make it in time for 4.5-RELEASE, and I'd rather we send the release out > with less information, rather than information that we know is wrong to > begin with. Sounds like a reasonable idea to me -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 3: 6:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from www.yahho.com (28.c210-85-16.ethome.net.tw [210.85.16.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1945737B417; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 03:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn by tpts1.seed.net.tw with SMTP id q2iSaZIdcbLDaLPbaUWa; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:14:43 +0800 Message-ID: From: aSZl0DNK@pavo.seed.net.tw To: tjpsOv@ksmail.seed.net.tw Subject: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_t75bPXRkhRqbq3Hnf" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 03:06:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_t75bPXRkhRqbq3Hnf Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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Conceptual Model of a Disk' is missing. Actually, the picture has a size of 0 bytes. The picture should be found at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/disk-layou t.png Regards, Tjeerd Also the mirror site: http://www.nl.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.h tml has the same problem. This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 6:12:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58E237B776 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 06:06:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from buji ([12.84.6.213]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020118140604.MCM28721.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@buji> for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 14:06:04 +0000 From: "Erik Meade" To: Subject: 9.3 Building and Installing a Custom Kernel Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:05:01 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the great work on the docs, the past few years I have been using RedHat, and it is a nice surprise to be able to go to one document for most of my needs. I did find one discrepancy recently while rebuilding my 4.4 STABLE kernel. According to: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-build ing.html Note: If there is not a /usr/src/sys directory on your system, then the kernel source has not been installed. The easiest way to do this is by running /stand/sysinstall as root, choosing Configure, then Distributions, then src, then sys. If you have an aversion to sysinstall and you have access to an ``official'' FreeBSD CDROM, then you can also install the source from the command line : I found I also had to make sure to sysinstall Configure -> Distributions -> src -> sys -> base, otherwise make doesn't know how to buildkernel. I still ended up with an error that I resolved by just installing all of the src. Sincerely, Erik Meade emeade@geekfarm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 6:27: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D5437B425 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 06:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IEQuE36993; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:26:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:26:56 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020118092656.B36856@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <3C479A00.8050205@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C479A00.8050205@pittgoth.com>; from darklogik@pittgoth.com on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 10:44:00PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 10:44:00PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Murray Stokely wrote: > Micheal, may I ask what sections of the handbook you will possibly be > working on, if at all, I just don't really want to overwrite your work, > or make a bunch of changes and have an obsolete diff right before the > submission :) Actually, I'm trying to be Mr. FAQ. Smack the Handbook around all you like; just please don't rename or delete any anchor tags, so I can refer to whatever portion of the Handbook contains the info I need. While I'd love to work on the Handbook as well, it's just a question of time. I'm on the whole 60-hours-a-week-and-finish-book drill right now. Anyone hiring a network admin for sane hours out there? Nah, didn't think so... -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 7:30:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE7A37B404 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IFU0R41272; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:30:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED1037B405 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from darklogik@localhost) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IFQWu67068; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:26:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik) Message-Id: <200201181526.g0IFQWu67068@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:26:32 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34036 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jan 18 07:30:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD localhost 5.0-CURRENT >Description: As talked about with a few project members, and mainly under the direction of RWatson, I have added some of the new features of the 4.5 GENERIC kernel to the handbook. This is not all of the options, but it will add the options SOFTUPDATES and the kern.maxusers information. It will also reword a previous sentence that I thought difficult to understand :) >How-To-Repeat: Look at both, 4.5 GENERIC and the handbook kernel config chapter >Fix: Apply this diff, I will provide more to the chapter later on :) *** chapter.sgml.old Thu Jan 17 21:16:28 2002 --- chapter.sgml Thu Jan 17 23:48:53 2002 *************** *** 503,524 **** maxusers ! maxusers 32 ! The maxusers option sets the size of a number ! of important system tables. This number is supposed to be roughly equal to the number of simultaneous users you expect to have on your ! machine. However, under normal circumstances, you will want to set ! maxusers to at least 4, especially if you are ! using the X Window System or compiling software. The reason is that ! the most important table set by maxusers is the ! maximum number of processes, which is set to 20 + 16 * ! maxusers, so if you set maxusers to 1, ! then you can only have 36 simultaneous processes, including the 18 ! or so that the system starts up at boot time, and the 15 or so you ! will probably create when you start the X Window System. Even a ! simple task like reading a manual page will start up nine processes to ! filter, decompress, and view it. Setting maxusers to 64 will allow you to have up to 1044 simultaneous processes, which should be enough for nearly all uses. If, however, you see the dreaded proc table --- 503,533 ---- maxusers ! maxusers 0 ! The maxusers option will set the size for many ! important system tables. This number is supposed to be roughly equal to the number of simultaneous users you expect to have on your ! machine. Since 4.5-RELEASE, however, the maxusers ! option is auto-tuning, and set at 0 by default in the configuration. ! Using a value of 0 will let the system automatically select the ! appropriate value based on physical system memory. ! This value can be obtained after booting, by looking at ! kern.maxusers, and modified at boot-time by changing the ! kernel configuration, or just by updating ! kern.maxusers in the /boot/loader.conf ! file. Using a value other than 0, will cause the kernel ! to use the old style maxusers, and it is ! recommended you set this value no less than 4 if you wish to manually ! enter it, specially if you will be using the X Window System or compiling ! software. The reason for this is that the most important table set by ! maxusers is the maximum number of processes, ! which is set to 20 + 16 * maxusers, so if you set ! maxusers to 1, then you can only have 36 simultaneous ! processes, including the 18 or so that the system starts up at boot ! time, and the 15 or so you will probably create when you start the X ! Window System. Even a simple task like reading a manual page will start ! up nine processes to filter, decompress, and view it. Setting maxusers to 64 will allow you to have up to 1044 simultaneous processes, which should be enough for nearly all uses. If, however, you see the dreaded proc table *************** *** 677,682 **** --- 686,705 ---- -C, which will display any write, talk, and any other messages you receive, as well as any console messages sent by the kernel. + + options SOFTUPDATES #Softupdates + + This options allows for faster dist writing. + + + are already enabled in the + GENERIC kernel, but they are not turned on + by default. You need to set this option yourself using the + &man.tunefs.8; command, and specifying the + option. Please read over the + /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates file before + setting this option + options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 7:30:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3F037B400 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:30:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IFU7N41377; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:30:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:30:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201181530.g0IFU7N41377@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: docs/34005: mmap man page description of ENOMEM is ambiguous Reply-To: Hiten Pandya Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34005; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Hiten Pandya To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, grady@digitaldeck..com Cc: Subject: Re: docs/34005: mmap man page description of ENOMEM is ambiguous Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:26:40 +0000 hmm, It is true, that it would create confusion, because it was seperated by a comma. I have made a patch which will resolve this, by whacking the vm.max_proc_mmap thing as the last reason from the three. As in: [ENOMEM] MAP_FIXED was specified and the addr parameter wasn't available. MAP_ANON was specified and insufficient memory was available. The system has reached the per- process mmap limit specified in the vm.max_proc_mmap sysctl. I have checked the patch. This will avoid confusion. Please don't hesistate to contact me regarding this matter. thanks, regards, - Hiten - The patch below := ========================================================================== --- mmap.2.old Fri Jan 18 15:05:39 2002 +++ mmap.2 Fri Jan 18 15:13:44 2002 @@ -302,12 +302,12 @@ .Dv MAP_FIXED was specified and the .Fa addr -parameter wasn't available, or the system has reached the per-process mmap -limit specified in the -.Va vm.max_proc_mmap -sysctl. +parameter wasn't available. .Dv MAP_ANON was specified and insufficient memory was available. +The system has reached the per-process mmap limit specified in the +.Va vm.max_proc_mmap +sysctl. .El .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr madvise 2 , ======================= SSH Fingerprint: 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 7:30:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40A537B405 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IFU2241281; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF2B37B41A for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from darklogik@localhost) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IFR1n67190; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:27:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik) Message-Id: <200201181527.g0IFR1n67190@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:27:01 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/34037: [PATCH] Updating handbook-mirrors chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34037 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Updating handbook-mirrors chapter >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jan 18 07:30:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD localhost 5.0-CURRENT >Description: The cvsup section of the handbook, I feel, lacks some important information. Other than that, it did need a bit of a touch up, this diff will add a link to the staples website as they carry boxed FreeBSD sets, more information about the refuse and sup files, slight grammer correction :) >How-To-Repeat: Read the chapter, use cvsup on a slow connection, and presto, instant "Why wasn't this explained?" >Fix: Apply this patch *** chapter.sgml.old Fri Jan 18 10:26:05 2002 --- chapter.sgml Fri Jan 18 01:04:49 2002 *************** *** 25,30 **** --- 25,37 ---- + +
+ Staples + WWW: http://www.staples.com +
+ +
Frys Electronics *************** *** 1631,1637 **** may see references to sup. Sup was the predecessor of CVSup, and it served a similar ! purpose.CVSup is in used in much the same way as sup and, in fact, uses configuration files which are backward-compatible with sup's. Sup is no longer used in the FreeBSD --- 1638,1644 ---- may see references to sup. Sup was the predecessor of CVSup, and it served a similar ! purpose.CVSup is used much in the same way as sup and, in fact, uses configuration files which are backward-compatible with sup's. Sup is no longer used in the FreeBSD *************** *** 1769,1775 **** --- 1776,1797 ---- src-all + + + You can specify a list of collections just by adding them + downward, for instance: + src-all + doc-all + ports-audio + will obtain the src-all collection, the doc-all + collection, and the ports-audio collection, but + this is only recommended if you have a fast internet + connection. + + + + Which version(s) of them do you want? *************** *** 2020,2032 **** of the repository is the first directory in the refuse file. ! With this very useful feature, those users who are on ! slow links or pay by the minute for their Internet connection ! will be able to save valuable time as they will no longer need ! to download files that they will never use. For more ! information on refuse files and other neat ! features of CVSup, please view its ! manual page. --- 2042,2082 ---- of the repository is the first directory in the refuse file. ! A typical refuse file may have the following list: ! ! ports/chinese ! ports/french ! ports/german ! ports/hebrew ! ports/japanese ! ports/korean ! ports/russian ! ports/ukrainian ! ports/vietnamese ! doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1 ! doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1 ! doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1 ! doc/it_IT.ISO8859-15 ! doc/ja_JP.eucJP ! doc/nl_NL.ISO8859-1 ! doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R ! doc/sr_YU.ISO8859-2 ! doc/zh_TW.Big5 ! ! As of this writing, that is a current and complete ! list of all the different language document files and ! ports, please feel free to use the list, it will save ! time when downloading, because you will not need to ! download everything, and then modify your refuse file ! to your own preferences ! ! With this very useful feature, those users who are on ! slow links or pay by the minute for their Internet connection ! will be able to save valuable time as they will no longer need ! to download files that they will never use. For more ! information on refuse files and other neat ! features of CVSup, please view its ! manual page. *************** *** 2044,2050 **** will display a GUI window with some buttons to do the usual things. Press the go button, and watch it run. ! Since you are updating your actual /usr/src tree in this example, you will need to run the program as root so that --- 2094,2106 ---- will display a GUI window with some buttons to do the usual things. Press the go button, and watch it run. ! ! ! In some cases, you will need to specify the directory ! that contains CVSup which is ! typically /usr/local/bin/cvsup ! ! Since you are updating your actual /usr/src tree in this example, you will need to run the program as root so that *************** *** 2088,2094 **** details of all the file updates it is doing. There are three levels of verbosity, from to . The default is 0, which means total ! silence except for error messages. There are plenty of other options available. For a brief list of them, type cvsup -H. For more --- 2144,2151 ---- details of all the file updates it is doing. There are three levels of verbosity, from to . The default is 0, which means total ! silence except for error messages, 1 adds a little bit more ! information, and 2 will give you a good bit of information. There are plenty of other options available. For a brief list of them, type cvsup -H. For more >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 7:30:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0288F37B41A for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IFU3D41350; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A3737B422 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from darklogik@localhost) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IFRJI67312; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:27:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik) Message-Id: <200201181527.g0IFRJI67312@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:27:19 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/34038: [NEW ARTICLE] Upgrading a.out to Elf Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34038 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [NEW ARTICLE] Upgrading a.out to Elf >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jan 18 07:30:03 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: >Release: FreeBSD 4.5 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD localhost 4.5 >Description: This article (uuencoded) is a pretty good walkthrough of the upgrading process, mainly upgrading a.out to ELF, but also designed in such a way, that, it can provide a good upgrade model for any FreeBSD version! >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Commit this article, we need upgrade documentation begin 644 aout.tar.gz M'XL("!L[2#P"`V%O=70N=&%R`.Q<;7/;R)'V5_%7S#J;W.X514BR_!*MK(TL MR1OE;,LGR``479UE9=KN[J5$DL@3.- MF7YY^NF>85['J#H9V?M7_P\WGNLU-/]W2=/GSQZ MLK^CU.[.T]W'#]3.@W_"3V-L7"OUH"Y+^ZEQRYG6^8/_F!2LLDTL6'=U>C\ZN+9\\>_W%[-XIKFR6Y-E%<-C9Z[?QE>*-V1[MJ;V=G M-]K=BW:?JIW=IP=[CP]VGJCK#2SBUQ5Z60P M.']S=7W\ZM6'DXO7;R_/KJ[.3K]_/OVU?7SQYM5/O<\&@ZO+DZM6Z,A,%SF_ MZ`.&O#S_$<*__OOHY-WEZ?GE/Z+12/XS&(RR(LF;5*N'7_^]&_V/R,SB6D>+ M>02UC:JZ_$4G=K28/QS\+[)_J(O_D?C?W4/0/^'X?[J[M_/HZ1Z>[3[9?_+_ M\?_/^#G\"AY]_=/;,Q\5ZNV[%Z_.3]3#[2ARN!!%I]>GZK1,7I3E7+W?'^UN MOXB-3A'=5A# MX@E`,8LM=.$GTM,TK;4Q1X=Z$6?Y41K7\[R<9O,_59FUT]+.1@F]4SX]C/QP M+S2Z)16/@M7+HZ2L5G4VG=EVWDK']1$A\V'$O_KGLS)/=7UT/=/*F8.,T"QT M8?D=ZJU@V&'D1KIWKKW!J7%L;!TGW5NKN(Z/S@OU%[)GO5*[?WSZ2%F\R\ZR M.E4ZS?@=Y01SD[HL5HNC=V_.?\26W%]J&1M5ZURS;RTS.U.QRJ$I.&5YH^M6 MKT]W=G;P08'\`FD)S#)2BG:U+.L\93&+LM;*9(L*<\=Q,J>%%$,5%RDOJ1S3 M/M6DK!>Q;>721#)MJN*)U;6,;&P%3YK4R>=VR,7HQS70_5O"B7!1[X9ROR M.:SDJL0VLT[L6"<0JN*JTC54#3&Q5>.LB&MX.M;<8,VU_EN38 MJZRP=9DVB6;=!-[K1IYBTXCWNT6@G?&/[ M%@[4]B70*FTWU9.XR;L7Z(\Z:6P\;E_M]@@7,T1>V)>AS#B'ODI2&G1NH3YF M%GNC'[U_F5$K\\_E4M^0/5F(1T&2ITTV+4@KI9KIO%*-T;5138'0P`Z=*PF3 MZ=0&'I`@B#N/02@I`$`UBTUFCD)?HJK&DZ1PKT/Z$H2-B`-"B#6(21 M4^/Z:H^-:18$Z"0.=H7J9=&(:@-GIQC,=8K4@;7UO%<6E_$"Z+K1=\YUEEN6@ MP'NK'+[(4P'\P";;^H_WFZ$XSLFI-_VY>P%:/#B-"6Y\2`B0^C'JY MD9X81.MN+TU>C"DD:!^M*ER&#*'<6YDVABW!+"LR8WI+5;3[LIG.5%%:,G)5 M5DT.3A6;=N@ND#$*`82UZ.UYY/>/5Y=M,MKM"T[4)=(&]# MY.OXXQ"S%]HB-'@Q*_&-)*YKP?,.&%HA7N]O@4LU:%$R#W!BJ+")9`8U%`)K M<3O>(5LKYYM]\B*C`0&(%F):WU".//&.Y^9]VV5%+^FZ+/-Y9KLH='LE2Y&- M)[`?M*I57B:$M$/ZM+,01L4YX,.HF\Q`G8<-IZBFSI\_G%E;'4318LAFMNP<_5#.1MVU0:P0NA!79%3,P!3`AB,!UFUD@'"+PQ M0$?8R9CE$,<`5.=EG`K>W;'3C';*2QZ#*H,)P5^, MECBHRMH>`9`;((&)DK2V<$*HF)\K^E]*&)T(GQ/@XMB*4P($'HM3]M2RR.H: MR88<AIMZH]0:)D(JDOIMTA>9K8GMAI1JP+Y MIEU"Y]H5J:@L>A9`43$&3]IAH0-:..YN()`($!) 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(O0:Z6@#(```` ` end >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 7:35:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CACB37B417 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0IFZxD67356; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:35:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C484293.5030604@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:43:15 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Meade Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 9.3 Building and Installing a Custom Kernel References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Erik Meade wrote: > Thanks for the great work on the docs, the past few years I have been using > RedHat, and it is a nice surprise > to be able to go to one document for most of my needs. > > I did find one discrepancy recently while rebuilding my 4.4 STABLE kernel. > According to: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-build > ing.html > > Note: If there is not a /usr/src/sys directory on your system, then the > kernel source has not been installed. The easiest way to do this is by > running /stand/sysinstall as root, choosing Configure, then Distributions, > then src, then sys. If you have an aversion to sysinstall and you have > access to an ``official'' FreeBSD CDROM, then you can also install the > source from the command line : > > I found I also had to make sure to sysinstall Configure -> Distributions -> > src -> sys -> base, otherwise make > doesn't know how to buildkernel. I still ended up with an error that I > resolved by just installing all of the > src. > > Sincerely, > Erik Meade > emeade@geekfarm.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > I will check on this using my 4.4 cd tonight :) Hopefully I will be able to fix this with my next submission (hopefully monday) which will update much of the kernel config to 4.5 :) Thanks alot for pointing this out Erik -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 7:37:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF44137B417 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0IFcWD67365; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:38:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C48432C.9030301@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:45:48 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas , freeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <3C479A00.8050205@pittgoth.com> <20020118092656.B36856@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 10:44:00PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >>Murray Stokely wrote: >>Micheal, may I ask what sections of the handbook you will possibly be >>working on, if at all, I just don't really want to overwrite your work, >>or make a bunch of changes and have an obsolete diff right before the >>submission :) >> > > Actually, I'm trying to be Mr. FAQ. Smack the Handbook around all you > like; just please don't rename or delete any anchor tags, so I can > refer to whatever portion of the Handbook contains the info I need. > > While I'd love to work on the Handbook as well, it's just a question > of time. I'm on the whole 60-hours-a-week-and-finish-book drill right > now. Anyone hiring a network admin for sane hours out there? Nah, > didn't think so... > > And I add an apology for the mistype of your name, I do not feel bad when its a regular word, but names are different. Do not worry, I will not touch the anchor tags, I will only be adding and changing the current information in hopes to keep the handbook as up to date as possible. Thanks for filling me in :) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 8:19:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D83037B417; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020118161902.DSPQ26243.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:19:02 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IGJ2B44633; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:19:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201181619.g0IGJ2B44633@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Tom Rhodes Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware Notes, "Boot-time Kernel Configuration" In-reply-to: <3C47A1C1.60904@pittgoth.com> References: <200201180353.g0I3rZk38880@bmah.dyndns.org> <3C47A1C1.60904@pittgoth.com> Comments: In-reply-to Tom Rhodes message dated "Thu, 17 Jan 2002 23:17:05 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:19:02 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Tom Rhodes wrote: > You will obtain praise from me, mainly the last note is very important > to me as a user, I would rather have little documentation than alot of > incorrect documentation. Maybe some day we can put this Generic kernel > configuration table somewhere in the handbook, opinions? I'd like to keep this in the release documentation, because these documents (e.g. the Hardware Notes, Release Notes, etc.) are tied to a specific revision of FreeBSD, just like the GENERIC kernel configuration. (This is why the release notes live where they do in the CVS repository, and why they are branched the same way as the rest of src/.) While the Handbook generally documents the most recent released version of FreeBSD, it's much less version-specific. Bruce. PS. If one were to take a snapshot of this as-yet-non-existent table, put it in the Handbook, and add a notation that it "Applies to FreeBSD FOO.BAR-RELEASE, Your Mileage May Vary", I'd have no objection. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 8:30: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DB137B405 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IGU2056583; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201181630.g0IGU2056583@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ceri Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Reply-To: Ceri Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34036; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri To: Tom Rhodes Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:18:31 +0000 On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 10:26:32AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > + This options allows for faster dist writing. s/dist/disk/ > + are already enabled in the Did I hear someone say on -doc earlier this week that SoftUpdates is to be considered singular ? > + GENERIC kernel, but they are not turned on > + by default. You need to set this option yourself using the > + &man.tunefs.8; command, and specifying the > + option. Could also mention newfs -U ? Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 8:30:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB55237B419 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IGU4G56597; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:30:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:30:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201181630.g0IGU4G56597@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34036; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit Cc: Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:31:16 -0500 I am sorry, but I have noticed a slight mistake in my patch, on the line under options SOFTUPDATES, I typed "dist" instead of "disk" I apologize for that mistake and I will be a tad bit more careful on the next! Also, I have dabbed into GENERIC a bit more, and noticed that options UFS_DIRHASH is listed, but not all togeather. For instance, GENERIC says that the option speeds up performance on big directories, but makes no note on the fact that, the performance is uses ram for this, a machine with a small amount of ram may not want that option listed. I will make a note of that on my next kernel patch. > + > + options SOFTUPDATES #Softupdates > + > + This options allows for faster dist writing. > + > + > + are already enabled in the > + GENERIC kernel, but they are not turned on > + by default. You need to set this option yourself using the > + &man.tunefs.8; command, and specifying the > + option. Please read over the > + /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates file before > + setting this option > + > > options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 8:35:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033C437B402; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0IGaMD67470; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:36:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C4850BA.4020304@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:43:38 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware Notes, "Boot-time Kernel Configuration" References: <200201180353.g0I3rZk38880@bmah.dyndns.org> <3C47A1C1.60904@pittgoth.com> <200201181619.g0IGJ2B44633@bmah.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > >>You will obtain praise from me, mainly the last note is very important >>to me as a user, I would rather have little documentation than alot of >>incorrect documentation. Maybe some day we can put this Generic kernel >>configuration table somewhere in the handbook, opinions? >> > > I'd like to keep this in the release documentation, because these > documents (e.g. the Hardware Notes, Release Notes, etc.) are tied to a > specific revision of FreeBSD, just like the GENERIC kernel > configuration. (This is why the release notes live where they do in the > CVS repository, and why they are branched the same way as the rest of > src/.) While the Handbook generally documents the most recent released > version of FreeBSD, it's much less version-specific. > > Bruce. > > PS. If one were to take a snapshot of this as-yet-non-existent table, > put it in the Handbook, and add a notation that it "Applies to FreeBSD > FOO.BAR-RELEASE, Your Mileage May Vary", I'd have no objection. > > > > > HAHA, if only I had the time.... Maybe some day, I will, but I think I would start from scratch. What is a possibility though, is a section of "what hardware does FreeBSD support by the default kernel, the boot kernel and blah blah. I am not sure, however, if this is already done somewhere that I overlooked or not :) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 8:40:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B4C37B480 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0IGe2l57794; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201181640.g0IGe2l57794@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34036; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: Ceri Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:40:41 -0500 Ceri wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 10:26:32AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > >>+ This options allows for faster dist writing. >> > > s/dist/disk/ > I was one step ahead or behind you, right before I obtained your email, I sent a reply to my patch pointing this out :) > >>+ are already enabled in the >> > > Did I hear someone say on -doc earlier this week that SoftUpdates is to be > considered singular ? I sup'd the source yesterday to verify that (I remember something along that line) but in my 4.5 GENERIC file, it is listed as plural, and it builds fine without modification, so I just left it be :) > > >>+ GENERIC kernel, but they are not turned on >>+ by default. 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No sweat, I have been known to answer even when my name is spelled "L","O","S","E","R". We would appreciate any and all corrections to the documentation, believe me! -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 10:26:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.mmcable.com (fe6.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DB937B404 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from thinkpad ([65.28.133.76]) by mail6.mmcable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:26:26 -0600 From: "Erik Moe" To: Subject: Broken links?... Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:26:25 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are the links to the pictures in this article broken or is it because my browser doesn't understand .png (IE5.0)? If the latter is the case how about putting them in a more browser friendly format? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/x26.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 11:50:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.vub.ac.be (guppy.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA8A37B477 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from fort-knox.rave.org (igwe15.vub.ac.be [134.184.49.15]) by guppy.vub.ac.be (8.9.1b+Sun/3.17.1.ap (guppy)) id UAA29010; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:49:38 +0100 (MET) for Received: (qmail 9951 invoked by uid 1979); 18 Jan 2002 19:49:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jan 2002 19:49:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:49:41 +0100 (CET) From: Wouter Van Hemel To: Michael Lucas Cc: Tom Rhodes , Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 In-Reply-To: <20020118132231.A38084@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: PGP: 0B B4 BC 28 53 62 FE 94 6A 57 EE B8 A6 E2 1B E4 (0xAA5412F0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Michael Lucas wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 10:45:48AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > And I add an apology for the mistype of your name, I do not feel bad > > when its a regular word, but names are different. > > No sweat, I have been known to answer even when my name is spelled > "L","O","S","E","R". > will remember... ;) > We would appreciate any and all corrections to the documentation, > believe me! > > -- > Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org > my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 13:20:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E20737B416 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 13:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0ILK2027714; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 13:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from sneakerz.org (sneakerz.org [216.33.66.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD51A37B41A for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 13:15:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by sneakerz.org (Postfix, from userid 1023) id 2EC545D006; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:15:53 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <20020118211553.2EC545D006@sneakerz.org> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:15:53 -0600 (CST) From: Maxime Henrion To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/34047: [PATCH] function dev_depends() is referred to as depends_dev() in make_dev(9) and the MLINK does the same error Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34047 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] function dev_depends() is referred to as depends_dev() in make_dev(9) and the MLINK does the same error >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jan 18 13:20:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Maxime Henrion >Release: >Organization: None >Environment: >Description: In the make_dev(9) manpage, the dev_depends() functions is called depends_dev() several times. Moreover, the Makefile in man9/ creates an MLINK to depends_dev.9 instead of dev_depends.9. >How-To-Repeat: man make_dev >Fix: Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man9/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.144 diff -u -r1.144 Makefile --- Makefile 7 Dec 2001 20:58:06 -0000 1.144 +++ Makefile 18 Jan 2002 21:08:34 -0000 @@ -137,7 +137,7 @@ MLINKS+=kthread.9 kthread_suspend_check.9 MLINKS+=ktr.9 CTR0.9 ktr.9 CTR1.9 ktr.9 CTR2.9 MLINKS+=ktr.9 CTR3.9 ktr.9 CTR4.9 ktr.9 CTR5.9 -MLINKS+=make_dev.9 depends_dev.9 +MLINKS+=make_dev.9 dev_depends.9 MLINKS+=make_dev.9 destroy_dev.9 MLINKS+=make_dev.9 make_dev_alias.9 MLINKS+=malloc.9 FREE.9 malloc.9 MALLOC.9 malloc.9 free.9 Index: make_dev.9 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man9/make_dev.9,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -r1.10 make_dev.9 --- make_dev.9 4 Oct 2001 06:22:22 -0000 1.10 +++ make_dev.9 18 Jan 2002 21:08:06 -0000 @@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ .Nm make_dev , .Nm make_dev_alias , .Nm destroy_dev , -.Nm depends_dev +.Nm dev_depends .Nd manage .Vt dev_t Ns 's and DEVFS registration for devices @@ -112,7 +112,7 @@ .Fn make_dev_alias . .Pp The -.Fn depends_dev +.Fn dev_depends function establishes a parent-child relationship between two devices. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 17:34:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from plmler1.mail.eds.com (plmler1.mail.eds.com [199.228.142.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD68237B434 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from plmlir1.mail.eds.com (plmlir1-2.mail.eds.com [199.228.143.132]) by plmler1.mail.eds.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0J1XY101701 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:33:34 -0600 Received: from plmlir1.mail.eds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plmlir1.mail.eds.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0J1XWi28201 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:33:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from usplm101.exsc01.exch.eds.com (USPLM101.txpln.us.eds.com [198.132.135.14]) by plmlir1.mail.eds.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0J1XVJ28197 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:33:31 -0600 (CST) Received: by USPLM101.txpln.us.eds.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.51) id ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:33:31 -0600 Message-ID: <9638B68DBCF5D311B70400508B0CC3ED02FE811B@MXMCM201> From: "Vega, Cesar" To: doc@freeBSD.org Subject: FW: Would you accept a spanish traslation of FreeBSD Security How -To? Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:32:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.51) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Guys, Could yo tell me please how can I begin to work? Thanks. Cesar Vega # -----Original Message----- # From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:kris@obsecurity.org] # Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:27 PM # To: Vega, Cesar # Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG # Subject: Re: Would you accept a spanish traslation of # FreeBSD Security # How-To? # # # On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 06:06:45PM -0600, Vega, Cesar wrote: # > Hi everybody, # > # > Congratulations for your excellent FreeBSD Security How-To. # > # > I just started to work with FreeBSD and I think that it's # a very good OS. # > I'm interested in FreeBSD Security. # > # > I know that your How-To has been translated to Russian and # Chinese, so I'd # > like to translate it to Spanish (I'm a Mexican guy). # Because I cannot to # > host that new web pages, I wonder if you can do that at # your own server. # # We usually host translations of FreeBSD.org webpages on the website # itself, so that wouldn't be a problem. # # Your offer sounds great -- thanks! The guys to talk to are over on # doc@freeBSD.org, and I'm sure they'd be happy to talk to you about # specifics of how to go about doing this. # # Kris # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 18:59:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3096037B404 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 18:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a044.otenet.gr [212.205.215.44]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g0J2xbS05833; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 04:59:37 +0200 (EET) Received: by hades.hell.gr (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 12B3C2E; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 04:59:34 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 04:59:34 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Vega, Cesar" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FW: Would you accept a spanish traslation of FreeBSD Security How -To? Message-ID: <20020119025934.GA90432@hades.hell.gr> References: <9638B68DBCF5D311B70400508B0CC3ED02FE811B@MXMCM201> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9638B68DBCF5D311B70400508B0CC3ED02FE811B@MXMCM201> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-01-18 19:32:39, Vega, Cesar wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Could yo tell me please how can I begin to work? The "FreeBSD Documentation Project Primer for New Contributors" is a nice place to start. Find it at: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/ You might also want to check: http://www.FreeBSD.org/docs.html http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ -- Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org} FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 19:12:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-208-191-149-232.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.149.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322A637B417 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.9.3) id g0J3CEh31388; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 21:12:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 21:12:13 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: Murray Stokely Cc: Michael Lucas , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> Reply-To: chris@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com>; from murray@freebsdmall.com on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 07:05:54PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, January 17, 2002, Murray Stokely wrote: > Should more of this stuff be in the Handbook, instead of the FAQ? > It makes a lot of sense to split up the Handbook into multiple books > once it gets too large (as it already is), but I think the FAQ should > be much smaller and easier to read through. My personal opinion is that any relevant information should be mined from the FAQ and put into the Handbook, and the rest should be blown away in favor of a newly-compiled FAQ. -- +-------------------+------------------------------+ | Chris Costello | I modem, but they grew back. | | chris@FreeBSD.org | | +-------------------+------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 20:54:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F95F37B419; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020119045418.SCJF10199.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 04:54:18 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0J4sHT60246; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:54:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201190454.g0J4sHT60246@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: rpratt@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Screenshots for Handbook From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:54:17 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Randy-- I was wondering if you (or anyone else) are planning on updating the screenshots in the install chapter of the Handbook for 4.5-RELEASE? I don't have any specific issues in mind, BTW. If not, maybe it'd be useful to add a notation in this chapter along the lnes of, "This section was last updated for FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE. Screenshots for your version of FreeBSD may differ slightly." Thanks! Bruce. PS. Apologies if you committed anything and I inadvertently missed it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 18 20:55:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8106837B416 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15490 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2002 04:55:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.dub.net) ([216.27.176.75]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Jan 2002 04:55:56 -0000 Received: by helios.dub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 648BD312A; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:55:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:55:55 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Chris Costello Cc: Murray Stokely , Michael Lucas , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 at 21:12:13 -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > On Thursday, January 17, 2002, Murray Stokely wrote: > > Should more of this stuff be in the Handbook, instead of the FAQ? > > It makes a lot of sense to split up the Handbook into multiple > > books once it gets too large (as it already is), but I think the > > FAQ should be much smaller and easier to read through. > > My personal opinion is that any relevant information should be > mined from the FAQ and put into the Handbook, and the rest should > be blown away in favor of a newly-compiled FAQ. I agree with Chris here. Much of the info in the FAQ can be shoved into the handbook in either existing chapters or new chapters. I'll try to make some time to go through the FAQ and see what can be split out sometime this weekend (won't happen tonight since I'll be going out the door shortly -- possibly tomorrow or Sunday). One thing we could do for history's sake is link stuff from the FAQ to the handbook after it's moved. For example: Q: How do I do ? A: This is covered in Chapter X of the handbook. Although that assumes we're not going to "start over" with the FAQ (which I don't really think is a bad idea to begin with...). - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 2:50: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEA237B402 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 02:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0JAo2g97509; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 02:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 02:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201191050.g0JAo2g97509@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ceri Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Reply-To: Ceri Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34036; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri To: Tom Rhodes Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 10:38:30 +0000 On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 11:40:41AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Ceri wrote: > >On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 10:26:32AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > >>+ are already enabled in the > > > >Did I hear someone say on -doc earlier this week that SoftUpdates is to be > >considered singular ? > > I sup'd the source yesterday to verify that (I remember something along > that line) but in my 4.5 GENERIC file, it is listed as plural, and it > builds fine without modification, so I just left it be :) I meant more as in : is already enabled .... > >Could also mention newfs -U ? > > > Thanks for pointing out the -U option, but isn't that for a NEW filesystem? Certainly is, yes. > I can understand pointing this out, but that is with a new filesystem, > and figured a need to only point out how to enable softupdates, I > suppose adding a &man.newfs.8 wouldn't hurt at all though :) I reckon; I find it a lot less hassle to just do : newfs -U /dev/whatever than: newfs /dev/whatever && tunefs -n enable /dev/whatever Laziness _is_ a virtue :) Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 5:17:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435E337B417; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 05:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0JDHpk44198; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 08:17:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 08:17:51 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Jim Mock Cc: Chris Costello , Murray Stokely , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net>; from jim@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 08:55:55PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmmm... why would we want to start over with the FAQ? It's really not that bad, for a document that covers 2.1.x, 2.2.x, 3.x, and 4.x. Much of that information is still quite useful for people who are running older releases. I would suggest that we start a new FAQ with the release of 5.x, and call it "The FreeBSD 5.x FAQ." We could pull relevant info from the old FAQ into that. It could even be started now. I'd also like to argue strongly in favor of very brief answers and pointers in the FAQ, rather than just a pointer to a chapter in the FAQ. Some of those chapters are very long, and as a reader/user I don't want to dig through the whole chapter to find a quick answer. 1-3 sentences per question in the FAQ aren't that bad. Or, at least, link to the answer in the chapter rather than the chapter itself. We need to remember that things that are asked frequently should be in the FAQ. If people cannot find the documentation they want, they'll keep asking. My goal, at least, is to shut them up. :) On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 08:55:55PM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > > My personal opinion is that any relevant information should be > > mined from the FAQ and put into the Handbook, and the rest should > > be blown away in favor of a newly-compiled FAQ. > > I agree with Chris here. Much of the info in the FAQ can be shoved into > the handbook in either existing chapters or new chapters. I'll try to > make some time to go through the FAQ and see what can be split out > sometime this weekend (won't happen tonight since I'll be going out the > door shortly -- possibly tomorrow or Sunday). > > One thing we could do for history's sake is link stuff from the FAQ to > the handbook after it's moved. For example: > > Q: How do I do ? > A: This is covered in Chapter X of the handbook. > > Although that assumes we're not going to "start over" with the FAQ > (which I don't really think is a bad idea to begin with...). > > - jim > > -- > jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 6:49:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAFF37B419; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 06:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (ip206102032057.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.32.57]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0JEgmU24000; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:42:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200201191442.g0JEgmU24000@mail.ezwv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Screenshots for Handbook Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:49:27 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200201190454.g0J4sHT60246@bmah.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <200201190454.g0J4sHT60246@bmah.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday 18 January 2002 11:54 pm, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Hi Randy-- > > I was wondering if you (or anyone else) are planning on updating the > screenshots in the install chapter of the Handbook for 4.5-RELEASE? I > don't have any specific issues in mind, BTW. If not, maybe it'd be > useful to add a notation in this chapter along the lnes of, "This > section was last updated for FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE. Screenshots for your > version of FreeBSD may differ slightly." I plan to update the handbook/install to reflect any differences in screenshots. I've gathered a few from RC1 and plan on reviewing RC2 before committing anything. I'm on dialup so grabbing an iso for testing takes awhile. > Thanks! > > Bruce. > > PS. Apologies if you committed anything and I inadvertently missed it. I was dragging my feet a little to see how the cd-boot version worked out and how that might affect the install section. Since it looks like its not going to happen right away, I should be able to get the updates committed early next week. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 8: 9:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397F837B416; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 08:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id D5BA84B65D; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 08:08:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 08:08:48 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Randy Pratt Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Screenshots for Handbook Message-ID: <20020119160848.GG21973@freebsdmall.com> References: <200201190454.g0J4sHT60246@bmah.dyndns.org> <200201191442.g0JEgmU24000@mail.ezwv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n/aVsWSeQ4JHkrmm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200201191442.g0JEgmU24000@mail.ezwv.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --n/aVsWSeQ4JHkrmm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 09:49:27AM -0500, Randy Pratt wrote: > I plan to update the handbook/install to reflect any differences in=20 > screenshots. I've gathered a few from RC1 and plan on reviewing RC2 befo= re=20 > committing anything. I'm on dialup so grabbing an iso for testing takes= =20 > awhile. Perhaps you could download the boot floppies and do a network install? 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 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 14: 0:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B09837B405 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 28882 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2002 22:00:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.dub.net) ([216.27.176.75]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Jan 2002 22:00:20 -0000 Received: by helios.dub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 63F47312A; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:00:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:00:19 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Michael Lucas Cc: Chris Costello , Murray Stokely , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 at 08:17:51 -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > Hmmm... why would we want to start over with the FAQ? It's really not > that bad, for a document that covers 2.1.x, 2.2.x, 3.x, and 4.x. Much > of that information is still quite useful for people who are running > older releases. Well, that's one reason. We ripped all the 2.x stuff out of the handbook a while back, and should probably do the same with the FAQ. If somebody's been using FreeBSD long enough to still be using 2.x, I would assume they have enough clue to keep it running. > I would suggest that we start a new FAQ with the release of 5.x, and > call it "The FreeBSD 5.x FAQ." We could pull relevant info from the > old FAQ into that. It could even be started now. This is reasonable. > I'd also like to argue strongly in favor of very brief answers and > pointers in the FAQ, rather than just a pointer to a chapter in the > FAQ. Some of those chapters are very long, and as a reader/user I > don't want to dig through the whole chapter to find a quick answer. > 1-3 sentences per question in the FAQ aren't that bad. Or, at least, > link to the answer in the chapter rather than the chapter itself. Well, part of the problem with that is that people don't seem to read the FAQ either. It's just gotten too big, and if you don't know where something is, you've got to look through the whole thing anyway. For example, I was just looking for the entry about updating to the latest -STABLE and getting -RC so I could bookmark it to beat the newbies who are too lazy to read the FAQ with it when it's asked 400 times in #FreeBSD (on Undernet). It's in the system administration section of the FAQ. That was the 4th place I looked. It's not exactly easy to find things if you don't know where they are :-) > We need to remember that things that are asked frequently should be in > the FAQ. If people cannot find the documentation they want, they'll > keep asking. My goal, at least, is to shut them up. :) I agree, but see above. IMO, I think the FAQ should be kept short, and only answer the *most* frequently asked questions. Some stuff in the FAQ I haven't seen asked years, if at all. For starters, I think this question can definitely die a horrible, fiery death: 14.3. I just upgraded to 2.0.5 and my tty0X are missing! How do I solve this problem? I can't think of anyone that would've "just upgraded" to 2.0.5 :-) In order to make things easier to find, it would be extremely useful to limit the questions asked to only the most frequent ones (like the damn why'd I get -RC? question), and have the FAQ be one page only -- questions at the top, answers at the bottom. Otherwise, as I mentioned earlier, too much digging is needed if you don't know where things already are. - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 16: 1: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from vms4.rit.edu (vms4.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D075E37B404 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sonic.rit.edu ([129.21.10.175]) by ritvax.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40294) with ESMTPA id <01KD9L02FERQDMPDKU@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:00:47 EST Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:00:35 -0500 From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 In-reply-to: <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> X-Sender: mdp1261@vmspop.isc.rit.edu To: doc@freebsd.org Message-id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020119184915.035bf620@vmspop.isc.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:00 PM 1/19/02 -0800, you wrote: >On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 at 08:17:51 -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > Hmmm... why would we want to start over with the FAQ? It's really not > > that bad, for a document that covers 2.1.x, 2.2.x, 3.x, and 4.x. Much > > of that information is still quite useful for people who are running > > older releases. > >Well, that's one reason. We ripped all the 2.x stuff out of the >handbook a while back, and should probably do the same with the FAQ. If >somebody's been using FreeBSD long enough to still be using 2.x, I would >assume they have enough clue to keep it running. I whole-heartedly agree that the FAQ should be cleaned up, but I'm not sure that discarding information on older releases would be a good idea. Perhaps categorizing questions according to release, or even keeping separate documents for older releases would be beneficial? (I.e., 2.x FAQ, 3.x FAQ, etc.) I realize it's fairly unlikely, but somewhere out there are very old systems that cannot be upgraded to a new version for one reason or another, so the information in the FAQ (and handbook) that pertains to old releases might prove useful to someone. I'm sure some people think I'm crazy for advocating the rentention of 5 year old FAQs, but I've had trouble keeping legacy systems running in the past because someone thought, "no one could possibly need these documents anymore," so I would advocate keeping the information on-line, albeit in a different location. Just my 2 cents. :) Matt -- Matt Penna mdp1261@rit.edu ICQ: 399825 S0ba on AOLIM "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they're very sophisticated idiots." -Dr. Who To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 16:20:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21110.mail.yahoo.com (web21110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C379137B419 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:20:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020120002014.396.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:20:14 PST Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 To: jim@FreeBSD.org Cc: Chris Costello , Murray Stokely , doc@FreeBSD.org, Michael Lucas In-Reply-To: <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, > I agree, but see above. IMO, I think the FAQ should > be kept short, and hmm, that would be good, to keep the FAQ short, but there are some pieces of information, which aren't so *frequently* asked, but deserve to be there... in other words, we could try and split the FAQ up into other little FAQs, like the fellow NetBSD Project. This would be a very good way to solve all the problems we would face with the growing amount of information in the FAQ. As Jim said, there questions, which aren't so freq. asked, or asked at all such as the 2.x upgrading ques. For these, we can put them into a special FAQ which has a job of just dealing with the old FreeBSD FAQ questions.. or can be discarded :) regards, - Hiten - ===== SSH Fingerprint: 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 17: 1:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357C737B405; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0K11KI46249; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 20:01:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 20:01:20 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Jim Mock Cc: Chris Costello , Murray Stokely , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020119200120.A46175@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net>; from jim@FreeBSD.org on Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 02:00:19PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Before we get into implementation details: I would like to suggest that after this discussion we create a "design specification" for the FAQ, the Handbook, and all other FreeBSD documentation. Once we reach a point where we all basically agree that the FAQ should have characteristics X, Y, and Z, let's document those goals so that this discussion doesn't happen again when FreeBSD 8.x goes -stable and it's time to re-revamp the doc structure. The FDP is an obvious choice for where to document them. Okay, now on to implementation details. On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 02:00:19PM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > Well, that's one reason. We ripped all the 2.x stuff out of the > handbook a while back, and should probably do the same with the FAQ. If > somebody's been using FreeBSD long enough to still be using 2.x, I would > assume they have enough clue to keep it running. Fair enough. For the record, I think it would be desireable to keep old documentation on hand, but labeled "old". Even if it just sits in the Attic, it's still available for those who want to check out "The FreeBSD 5.X-6.X FAQ." > > I would suggest that we start a new FAQ with the release of 5.x, and > > call it "The FreeBSD 5.x FAQ." We could pull relevant info from the > > old FAQ into that. It could even be started now. > > This is reasonable. OK, barring further objection, let's just do it. :) > Well, part of the problem with that is that people don't seem to read > the FAQ either. It's just gotten too big, and if you don't know where > something is, you've got to look through the whole thing anyway. This is a definite problem. Some people we cannot help; if they won't read, too bad for them. Finding information in the FAQ is something that definitely concerns me. Better indexing and cross-referencing would help. > 14.3. I just upgraded to 2.0.5 and my tty0X are missing! How do I > solve this problem? That would be solved by creating the FreeBSD 5.x FAQ. And yes, a fiery death is too good for it. :-) > In order to make things easier to find, it would be extremely useful to > limit the questions asked to only the most frequent ones (like the damn > why'd I get -RC? question), and have the FAQ be one page only -- > questions at the top, answers at the bottom. Otherwise, as I mentioned > earlier, too much digging is needed if you don't know where things > already are. Hrmmm... Okay, point made. Let me throw out a counter-proposal. As a user, I don't want to go digging through the Handbook for a quick answer. Chances are the information I want is there, but is buried in the middle of an obscure discussion. Case in point: my recent FAQ addition on vnlru should be discussed in the Handbook, but it's going to be in the middle of a discussion on vnode management. As a user, I don't want to go wading through this whole chapter just to find out what that "vnlru shutting down" message during shutdown means. Also, I personally read the full documentation set once in the 2.1 days. (It wasn't really very good back then, sorry guys. :-) I read it again in the 3.X days. If I was Joe Average User, why would I re-read it to get an answer that wasn't in there last time? Should I constantly scan the docs to see what has updated? Nobody's going to like that. I therefore suggest that we have a "jumbo FAQ," that consists entirely of questions and pointers to answers. In fact, each question is simply linked to the correct section of the appropriate documentation. We put anchors in the appropriate spots in the HTML versions of the Handbook/articles/whatever. Someone can quickly scan this "jumbo FAQ" for what they're interested in, and immediately be redirected to the correct portion of the documentation. (The name "jumbo FAQ" sucks, but it's the most descriptive term I can think of.) This would address my main concern, but I'm certainly open to other suggestions and better solutions. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 18:59:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-208-191-149-232.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.149.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B20E37B404 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 18:59:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.9.3) id g0K2wp238473; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 20:58:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 20:58:49 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: Matt Penna Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020119205848.K2208@holly.calldei.com> Reply-To: chris@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020119184915.035bf620@vmspop.isc.rit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020119184915.035bf620@vmspop.isc.rit.edu>; from mdp1261@ritvax.rit.edu on Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 07:00:35PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, January 19, 2002, Matt Penna wrote: > I whole-heartedly agree that the FAQ should be cleaned up, but I'm not sure > that discarding information on older releases would be a good idea. Perhaps > categorizing questions according to release, or even keeping separate > documents for older releases would be beneficial? (I.e., 2.x FAQ, 3.x FAQ, > etc.) Perhaps either a legacy documents Web site or a condensed legacy FAQ would suffice... Actually, we have that! See http://docs.freebsd.org/faq/en/ I see no reason why the FAQ cannot be cleaned up in light of this fact, replacing the old and confusing material with a single reference at the top of the FAQ to the above URL. -- +-------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Chris Costello | Fine day to work off excess energy. | | chris@FreeBSD.org | Steal something heavy. | +-------------------+-------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 19:59:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC82C37B400; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 4F6854B65D; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:59:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:59:27 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Chris Costello Cc: Matt Penna , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020120035927.GJ21973@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020119184915.035bf620@vmspop.isc.rit.edu> <20020119205848.K2208@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020119205848.K2208@holly.calldei.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 08:58:49PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > Actually, we have that! See http://docs.freebsd.org/faq/en/ Agreed. This is an excellent reason to do some serious housecleaning of the FAQ. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 20:19:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C99637B417; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 20:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020120041954.URWT3578.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 04:19:54 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0K4Jsn78414; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 20:19:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201200419.g0K4Jsn78414@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Randy Pratt Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Screenshots for Handbook In-reply-to: <200201191442.g0JEgmU24000@mail.ezwv.com> References: <200201190454.g0J4sHT60246@bmah.dyndns.org> <200201191442.g0JEgmU24000@mail.ezwv.com> Comments: In-reply-to Randy Pratt message dated "Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:49:27 -0500." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 20:19:54 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Randy Pratt wrote: > I plan to update the handbook/install to reflect any differences in > screenshots. I've gathered a few from RC1 and plan on reviewing RC2 before > committing anything. Awesome, thanks. Not trying to rush you or anything...just something that crossed my mind. > I'm on dialup so grabbing an iso for testing takes > awhile. Zounds, I bet it does! :-p Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 22:10: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2366537B41C for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0K6A2855386; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AE437B417 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0K68wm55312; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:08:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201200608.g0K68wm55312@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:08:58 -0800 (PST) From: Cameron Watters To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/34074: Handbook section 12.3 -- Adding Disks incomplete instructions for using disklabel Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34074 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook section 12.3 -- Adding Disks incomplete instructions for using disklabel >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jan 19 22:10:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Cameron Watters >Release: 4.4-RELEASE >Organization: Toolhouse Design Company >Environment: N/A >Description: In section 12.3 Adding Disks, there is no mention of the fact that one must run disklabel -W prior to attempting either method of labeling the disk one is adding. While this is mentioned in the manpage for disklabel, the instructions in the handbook give the impression of being a complete step by step to performing this task. However, as according to the man page for disklabel, the disk's driver will simply quietly ignore any requests to write to the disklabel until the above command is performed. So, until one does run disklabel -W, all disklabels fail (even the ones from /stand/sysinstall) and therefor all newfs commands fail...and no where are you told this. The only indicator that there MIGHT be a problem is the fact that the disklabel sequence in /stand/sysinstall will tell you it can't mount your new partition(s) when you attempt to write out the config, HOWEVER, you are specifically instructed to ignore this message in the handbook. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Add a sentence or two explaining the above and instruct the user to run disklabel -W prior to attempting to use either of the two methods given. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 19 22:59: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F301A37B416 for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:59:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25156 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2002 06:59:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.dub.net) ([216.27.176.75]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Jan 2002 06:59:02 -0000 Received: by helios.dub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3F19D312A; Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:59:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:59:01 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Murray Stokely Cc: Chris Costello , Matt Penna , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020120065900.GA11166@helios.dub.net> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020119184915.035bf620@vmspop.isc.rit.edu> <20020119205848.K2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020120035927.GJ21973@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020120035927.GJ21973@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 at 19:59:27 -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 08:58:49PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > > Actually, we have that! See http://docs.freebsd.org/faq/en/ > > Agreed. This is an excellent reason to do some serious housecleaning > of the FAQ. Ok then, I'll start going through it and picking bits out... - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message