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Contact Name: _____________________________________________ Business Name: ______________________________________ Business Type: ______________________________________ # Years in Business: _________________________ Address: _________________________________________________ City: ____________________ State: ______ Zip: ______________ Country: _______________ Email Address: _______________________________________________ Phone: __________________________Fax: ____________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 20 7:22:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DD937B417 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 07:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card4-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16SJnM-0000MW-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:22:08 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16SJnH-0000Kx-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:22:03 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:22:03 +0000 From: Ceri To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020120152203.GA1077@rhadamanth> References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 02:00:19PM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > > Well, part of the problem with that is that people don't seem to read > the FAQ either. It's just gotten too big, and if you don't know where > something is, you've got to look through the whole thing anyway. > > For example, I was just looking for the entry about updating to the > latest -STABLE and getting -RC so I could bookmark it to beat the > newbies who are too lazy to read the FAQ with it when it's asked 400 > times in #FreeBSD (on Undernet). It's in the system administration > section of the FAQ. That was the 4th place I looked. It's not exactly > easy to find things if you don't know where they are :-) Do we currently do anything with the elements ? Perhaps overhauling search.cgi to score on these terms would be an advantage, as imho it's currently nearly useless. Having search.cgi return a few lines of context would be good too. WAIS is deep magic as far as I'm concerned, so I can't comment on how easy these tasks would be. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 20 7:30: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CFD37B41D for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 07:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0KFU1O84634; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 07:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from c164-147.pro.thalamus.se (c164-147.pro.thalamus.se [212.31.164.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE94B37B400 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 07:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from redpixel@localhost) by c164-147.pro.thalamus.se (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0KFOiY42115; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:24:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from redpixel) Message-Id: <200201201524.g0KFOiY42115@c164-147.pro.thalamus.se> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:24:44 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Faxer Reply-To: Martin Faxer To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/34088: a.out(5) fails to explain what bss is Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34088 >Category: docs >Synopsis: a.out(5) fails to explain what bss is >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jan 20 07:30:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Faxer >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: None >Environment: System: FreeBSD lockdown.nodomain 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #6: Sun Jan 13 21:13:40 CET 2002 redpixel@lockdown.nodomain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LOCKDOWN i386 >Description: The a.out(5) man page states that nobody agrees on what the abbreviation bss stands for. This appears to be incorrect; after discussing on IRC and checking various sites on the internet everybody seems to agree upon the fact that it stands for "Block Started by Symbol". URL reference: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/faq/part1/section-3.html >How-To-Repeat: Check the BUGS section of the a.out(5) man page, rev 1.13. >Fix: Apply the following fix (or a better one; I'm not familiar with the mdoc(7) syntax) against rev 1.13 of the file /usr/src/share/man/man5/a.out.5: --- a.out.5.orig Sun Jan 20 15:06:00 2002 +++ a.out.5 Sun Jan 20 15:21:47 2002 @@ -172,6 +172,10 @@ after the data segment. 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1A1DF.D7EB8540-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 20 10:19:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from torrente.es.tiscali.com (torrente.es.tiscali.com [212.166.64.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C425F37B486 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 10:19:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ender.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct (212.7.34.10) by torrente.es.tiscali.com (5.5.021) id 3BB9CE1A000C86D0; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:19:33 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0KIKX746845; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:20:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:20:33 +0100 (CET) From: Jesus Rodriguez X-X-Sender: jesus.rodriguez@ender.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct To: "Vega, Cesar" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Subject: Re: FW: Would you accept a spanish traslation of FreeBSD Security How -To? In-Reply-To: <9638B68DBCF5D311B70400508B0CC3ED02FE811B@MXMCM201> Message-ID: <20020120191925.T46835-100000@ender.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Vega, Cesar wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Could yo tell me please how can I begin to work? Hi Cesar, Please, contact doc@es.freebsd.org . We can continue there. Thanks!!. > # -----Original Message----- > # From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:kris@obsecurity.org] > # Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:27 PM > # To: Vega, Cesar > # Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > # Subject: Re: Would you accept a spanish traslation of > # FreeBSD Security > # How-To? > # > # > # On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 06:06:45PM -0600, Vega, Cesar wrote: > # > Hi everybody, > # > > # > Congratulations for your excellent FreeBSD Security How-To. > # > > # > I just started to work with FreeBSD and I think that it's > # a very good OS. > # > I'm interested in FreeBSD Security. > # > > # > I know that your How-To has been translated to Russian and > # Chinese, so I'd > # > like to translate it to Spanish (I'm a Mexican guy). > # Because I cannot to > # > host that new web pages, I wonder if you can do that at > # your own server. > # > # We usually host translations of FreeBSD.org webpages on the website > # itself, so that wouldn't be a problem. > # > # Your offer sounds great -- thanks! The guys to talk to are over on > # doc@freeBSD.org, and I'm sure they'd be happy to talk to you about > # specifics of how to go about doing this. > # > # Kris > # > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > Saludos JesusR. ------------------------------------- Jesus Rodriguez IP Engineering & Security Manager Grupo Tiscali Espa=F1a jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com http://www.tiscali.es Tel. + (34) 93-3930800 ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 20 15: 3:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-208-191-149-232.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.149.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF1C37B400; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.9.3) id g0KN38s41761; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:03:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:03:07 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: MSC Sharp Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD.org SIte Message-ID: <20020120170307.L2208@holly.calldei.com> Reply-To: chris@FreeBSD.org References: <200201202035.g0KKZNU02134@epsilon.aei.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201202035.g0KKZNU02134@epsilon.aei.ca>; from sevenwz@hotmail.com on Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 03:35:24PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Thread moved to freebsd-doc] On Sunday, January 20, 2002, MSC Sharp wrote: > I was just wondering if the FreeBSD team would accept a new web site from an > emerging web design company. All work would be done for free of course and > would consist of remodeling the whole or any part of the web site that your > organization requested. If you are interested please contact me with some > specifications of work you would like done or just a yes or no reply. If you > accept we will contact you again in a few weeks to show you some samles of our > work. You may want to consult with Nik Clayton and the FreeBSD Documentation (nik@FreeBSD.org and doc@FreeBSD.org respectively) on this. We are currently in the process of updating the Web site's layout anyway, making a more extensive use of XML and XSLT than before (or at least, a more _proper_ use). That is, if you're serious about helping. :) -- +-------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Chris Costello | Computer and car salesmen differ in that | | chris@FreeBSD.org | the latter know when they are lying. | +-------------------+------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 20 16:38:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C8137B400; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 16:38:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCAD2782D0; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:08:51 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:08:51 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Wilko Bulte Cc: FreeBSD Core Team , FreeBSD Documenters Subject: Re: FW: FreeBSD.org SIte Message-ID: <20020121110851.C4262@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20020120214248.A271@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020120214248.A271@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 20 January 2002 at 21:42:48 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Would this be of any interest? hackers@ is obviously not the > best place to ask.. I'd think -doc would be the place. Greg > ----- Forwarded message from MSC Sharp ----- > > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:35:24 -0500 (EST) > From: "MSC Sharp" > Subject: FreeBSD.org SIte > To: "" > > I was just wondering if the FreeBSD team would accept a new web site from an > emerging web design company. All work would be done for free of course and > would consist of remodeling the whole or any part of the web site that your > organization requested. If you are interested please contact me with some > specifications of work you would like done or just a yes or no reply. If you > accept we will contact you again in a few weeks to show you some samles of our > work. > > Thank you, > I can be contacted at sevenwz@hotmail.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 20 17:16: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tabby.kudra.com (gw.kudra.com [199.6.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703E137B400 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 17:15:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from robert@localhost) by tabby.kudra.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) id g0L1FsP97406 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:15:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:15:54 -0500 From: Robert Sexton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook submission. Message-ID: <20020120201554.A97261@kudra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I've written a handbook entry on installing linux Matlab. It will need some minor proofing, but I think it complies with the format of the existing sgml. Its modeled on the Mathematica section, and has been tested with two varieties of Matlab. If this isn't the right place to send it, please let me know. Thanks. -- Robert Sexton, robert@kudra.com Clairvoyant, n. A person, commonly a woman, who has the power of seeing that which is invisible to her patron, namely, that he is a blockhead - Ambrose Bierce, "The Devils' Dictionary" --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="matlab_chapter.sgml" Installing MATLAB Version 6 applications MATLAB This document describes the process of installing the Linux version of MATLAB 6 onto a FreeBSD system. The Linux version of MATLAB runs well under FreeBSD. The startup and installation scripts provided by the MathWorks are slightly confused by the emulator environment, so some small changes are necessary to get the application to install and run. The following instructions have been tested with MATLAB Version 6/R12 for students on FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE. The Linux version of MATLAB or MATLAB for Students can be ordered directly from The MathWorks at url="http://www.mathworks.com/">http://www.mathworks.com/. Pre-Installation Before beginning the installation, create a directory for MATLAB. I use /usr/local/matlab6, but that isn't required. &prompt.root; mkdir /usr/local/matlab6 If you have a license.dat provided separately by the Mathworks place it in your /usr/local/matlab6 directory. The install script will make some changes and install it in its final location. Installing MATLAB The Installer provided by the Mathworks includes a nice graphical frontend that is unnecessary. The installation scripts attempt to determine exactly which operation system you are running, and act appropriately. This does not function perfectly in the emulator environment, so you must explicitly specify the operating system. &prompt.root; mount /cdrom &prompt.root; /cdrom/install_glnx.sh -t -glnx86 Some editions have a slightly different layout, so if your don't have install_gnlx, proceed as follows: &prompt.root; /cdrom/install -t -glnx86 After accepting the license agreement, you will be prompted for the MATLAB root directory. The installation script will create the dierectory for you, if necessary. Following this, you will be prompted to select platforms and products, and you may customize as you see fit. The install script will also offer to create symbolic links in the directory of your choice. The default, /usr/local/bin, should be appropriate for most systems. At this point, no further input is required until MATLAB finishes installing the base system. You may now unmount the cd. &prompt.root; umount /cdrom You may also want to install the MATLAB documentation on your system rather than access it via cdrom. The documentation as supplied by the mathworks is approximately 440 megabytes. Some editions have a documentaion CD that includes an installation script. If you aren't one of the lucky ones, proceed as follows: &prompt.root; mkdir /usr/local/MATLAB6/mhelp &prompt.root; mount /cdrom &prompt.root; cd /cdrom/help &prompt.root; cp -R /usr/local/matlab6/mhelp Otherwise, use the suppied install script: &prompt.root; mount /cdrom &prompt.root; /cdrom/install -t -glnx86 Running MATLAB As before, the scripts provided by the mathworks are slightly confused by the emulator enviroment, so we must manually specify the operating system when we start MATLAB For the Standard version of MATLAB, it is necessary to start the license manager &prompt; lmstart -glnx86 Then invoke MATLAB &prompt; matlab -glnx86 You may receive warnings that MATLAB was unable to open /dev/ptmx. In this case, the ! command will not be available from within MATLAB, but the software will be otherwise unaffected To shut down the license manager, we use the same switch as before &prompt; lmstop -glnx86 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 20 18: 4:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8956037B402 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 280394B65D; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:04:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:04:00 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Ceri Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020121020400.GP21973@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> <20020120152203.GA1077@rhadamanth> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020120152203.GA1077@rhadamanth> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 03:22:03PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > Do we currently do anything with the elements ? In the FAQ, no. The Handbook is fully indexed, so we turn on index generation during the build : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/i27360.html (we should probably setup an id for the index to aid linking. I think that collateindex.pl has an option for this) Turning on the index for the FAQ is easy, but it would look strange with only a very small subset of the document indexed. > Perhaps overhauling search.cgi to score on these terms would be an > advantage, as imho it's currently nearly useless. Agreed. Of course, we have a lot more semantic markup than just the indexterms. I have a hard time believing that no one has written a decent DocBook technical search engine yet. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 20 18: 8:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F159F37B405 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 70E824B65D; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:07:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 18:07:52 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Robert Sexton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook submission. Message-ID: <20020121020752.GQ21973@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020120201554.A97261@kudra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QxIEt88oQPsT6QmF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020120201554.A97261@kudra.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --QxIEt88oQPsT6QmF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This will now complete our documentation set to include information about the three most popular (in the US anyway) CAS systems. The FreeBSD crowd must really attract mathematicians. Maybe the information about Mathematica, Maple, and Matlab should be split out into a new "Mathematics on FreeBSD" article? The information seems really specific, when we don't even talk about more common Linux applications like RealPlayer or Netscape plugins in the Handbook. Your article is certainly appreciated. We just need to find the best place to publish it. - Murray On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 08:15:54PM -0500, Robert Sexton wrote: > I've written a handbook entry on installing linux Matlab. =20 > It will need some minor proofing, but I think it complies > with the format of the existing sgml. Its modeled on the Mathematica > section, and has been tested with two varieties of Matlab. >=20 > If this isn't the right place to send it, please let me know. > Thanks. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Robert Sexton, robert@kudra.com > Clairvoyant, n. A person, commonly a woman, who has the power of > seeing that which is invisible to her patron, namely, that he is a > blockhead - Ambrose Bierce, "The Devils' Dictionary" > > Installing MATLAB Version 6 > =20 > > applications > MATLAB > > =20 > This document describes the process of installing the Linux > version of MATLAB 6 onto a FreeBSD > system. >=20 > The Linux version of MATLAB runs > well under FreeBSD. The startup and installation scripts > provided by the MathWorks are slightly confused by the emulator > environment, so some small changes are necessary to get the > application to install and run. > =20 > The following instructions have been tested with MATLAB > Version 6/R12 for students on FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE. >=20 > The Linux version of MATLAB or > MATLAB for Students can be ordered > directly from The MathWorks at url=3D"http://www.mathworks.com= /">http://www.mathworks.com/. >=20 > > Pre-Installation > Before beginning the installation, create a directory > for MATLAB. I use /usr/local/matlab6, but that isn't required. > =20 > > &prompt.root; mkdir /usr/local/matlab6 > >=20 > If you have a license.dat provided separately by the Mathworks > place it in your /usr/local/matlab6 directory. The install script > will make some changes and install it in its final location. > >=20 > > Installing MATLAB > The Installer provided by > the Mathworks includes a nice graphical frontend that is > unnecessary. The installation scripts attempt to determine > exactly which operation system you are running, and act > appropriately. This does not function perfectly in the emulator > environment, so you must explicitly specify the operating > system. >=20 > > &prompt.root; mount /cdrom > &prompt.root; /cdrom/install_glnx.sh -t -glnx86 > >=20 > Some editions have a slightly different layout, so if > your don't have install_gnlx, proceed as follows: >=20 > > &prompt.root; /cdrom/install -t -glnx86 > >=20 > After accepting the license agreement, you will be > prompted for the MATLAB root directory. > The installation script will create the dierectory for you, > if necessary. > Following this, you will be prompted to select > platforms and products, and you may customize as you see fit. > The install script will also offer to create symbolic links in > the directory of your choice. The default, > /usr/local/bin, should be appropriate for > most systems. At this point, no further input is required until > MATLAB finishes installing the base system. You may now unmount > the cd. >=20 > > &prompt.root; umount /cdrom > >=20 > You may also want to install the MATLAB documentation on > your system rather than access it via cdrom. The documentation as > supplied by the mathworks is approximately 440 megabytes. Some > editions have a documentaion CD that includes an installation script. > If you aren't one of the lucky ones, proceed as follows: >=20 > > &prompt.root; mkdir /usr/local/MATLAB6/mhelp > &prompt.root; mount /cdrom > &prompt.root; cd /cdrom/help > &prompt.root; cp -R /usr/local/matlab6/mhelp > >=20 > Otherwise, use the suppied install script: >=20 > > &prompt.root; mount /cdrom > &prompt.root; /cdrom/install -t -glnx86 > >=20 > >=20 > > Running MATLAB >=20 > As before, the scripts provided by the mathworks are > slightly confused by the emulator enviroment, so we must > manually specify the operating system when we start > MATLAB >=20 > For the Standard version of MATLAB, it is necessary to > start the license manager >=20 > > &prompt; lmstart -glnx86 > >=20 > Then invoke MATLAB >=20 > > &prompt; matlab -glnx86 > >=20 > You may receive warnings that MATLAB was unable to open > /dev/ptmx. 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 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jan 20 20:20:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C174D37B41F for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0L4K1344692; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201210420.g0L4K1344692@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34036; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: Ceri Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:19:51 -0500 Ceri wrote: >On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 11:40:41AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >>Ceri wrote: >> >>>On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 10:26:32AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: >>> >>>>+ are already enabled in the >>>> >>>Did I hear someone say on -doc earlier this week that SoftUpdates is to be >>>considered singular ? >>> >>I sup'd the source yesterday to verify that (I remember something along >>that line) but in my 4.5 GENERIC file, it is listed as plural, and it >>builds fine without modification, so I just left it be :) >> > >I meant more as in : > is already enabled .... > >>>Could also mention newfs -U ? >>> >>Thanks for pointing out the -U option, but isn't that for a NEW filesystem? >> > >Certainly is, yes. > >>I can understand pointing this out, but that is with a new filesystem, >>and figured a need to only point out how to enable softupdates, I >>suppose adding a &man.newfs.8 wouldn't hurt at all though :) >> > >I reckon; I find it a lot less hassle to just do : > newfs -U /dev/whatever >than: > newfs /dev/whatever && tunefs -n enable /dev/whatever > >Laziness _is_ a virtue :) > >Ceri > > More or less depends on how you set up your hard drive though, I would not recommend you play around with newfs on a /usr partition :) Thinking that most users would already have their system setup before compiling a kernel was the idea in mind when I wrote this, and that they would also enable softupdates on current partitions. I suppose, however, a man link or quick info line would not hurt one bit, should I submit another patch or just revise the section if/when this is commited? --Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 0:32:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7422237B402; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:32:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card4-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16SZsK-0005qT-00; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:32:20 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16SZsB-0000qy-00; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:32:11 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:32:11 +0000 From: Ceri To: Murray Stokely Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020121083211.GA3147@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Murray Stokely , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> <20020120152203.GA1077@rhadamanth> <20020121020400.GP21973@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020121020400.GP21973@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 06:04:00PM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 03:22:03PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > > Do we currently do anything with the elements ? > > In the FAQ, no. The Handbook is fully indexed, so we turn on index > generation during the build : > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/i27360.html Hmm. That doesn't seem to work properly. All the anchors point back to the same document, so it's not much use. For example, this line : /etc/groups, Groups is linked to : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/i27360.html#USERS-GROUPS which is the same document, and there is no such anchor, so it just goes back to the top of the page. > Turning on the index for the FAQ is easy, but it would look strange > with only a very small subset of the document indexed. Something for me to do then! Unless Michael wants to do this at the same time he's overhauling ? Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 1: 2:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9B537B400 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card4-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16SaL5-0006WE-00; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:02:03 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16SaL1-0000uC-00; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:01:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:01:59 +0000 From: Ceri To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Message-ID: <20020121090159.GD3147@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200201210420.g0L4K1344692@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200201210420.g0L4K1344692@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 08:20:01PM -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Thinking that most users would already have their system setup before > compiling a kernel was the idea in mind when I wrote this, and that they > would also enable softupdates on current partitions. I suppose, > however, a man link or quick info line would not hurt one bit, should I > submit another patch or just revise the section if/when this is commited? Since you also have that dist/disk error, I'd submit another patch as it would make it easier for whoever commits this. Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 1:34:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A5837B400; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:34:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0L9YXd52262; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 04:34:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 04:34:33 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Ceri Cc: Murray Stokely , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020121043433.A52241@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> <20020120152203.GA1077@rhadamanth> <20020121020400.GP21973@freebsdmall.com> <20020121083211.GA3147@rhadamanth> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020121083211.GA3147@rhadamanth>; from setantae@submonkey.net on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:32:11AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:32:11AM +0000, Ceri wrote: > > Turning on the index for the FAQ is easy, but it would look strange > > with only a very small subset of the document indexed. > > Something for me to do then! > Unless Michael wants to do this at the same time he's overhauling ? It's a big job, I won't be greedy. :) At the time, I'm quite busy. My schedule is either "insanely busy" or "dead idle." My main concern with this is so that the next time I have an idle period to pound on the docs, they're in a reasonable design. -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 1:41:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B449137B41B for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18479 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2002 09:41:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.dub.net) ([216.27.176.75]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Jan 2002 09:41:12 -0000 Received: by helios.dub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F1062312A; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:41:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:41:11 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Murray Stokely Cc: Robert Sexton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook submission. Message-ID: <20020121094111.GA40934@helios.dub.net> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20020120201554.A97261@kudra.com> <20020121020752.GQ21973@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020121020752.GQ21973@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 at 18:07:52 -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > This will now complete our documentation set to include information > about the three most popular (in the US anyway) CAS systems. The > FreeBSD crowd must really attract mathematicians. Maybe the > information about Mathematica, Maple, and Matlab should be split out > into a new "Mathematics on FreeBSD" article? The information seems > really specific, when we don't even talk about more common Linux > applications like RealPlayer or Netscape plugins in the Handbook. I think that's a damn fine idea, mainly because the stuff we currently have *is* very specific. If we end up with docs on other stuff (non-math related :-), we can always add the chapter back later... - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 2:21:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A21C37B400 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 02:21:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card4-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16SbZo-0000ce-00; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:21:20 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16SbYp-00016T-00; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:20:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:20:19 +0000 From: Ceri To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: splitting FAQ ch. 9 Message-ID: <20020121102019.GA4129@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Michael Lucas , doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020117110921.B32325@blackhelicopters.org> <20020118030554.GC17795@freebsdmall.com> <20020118211213.J2208@holly.calldei.com> <20020119045555.GA57083@helios.dub.net> <20020119081751.A44161@blackhelicopters.org> <20020119220019.GA69416@helios.dub.net> <20020120152203.GA1077@rhadamanth> <20020121020400.GP21973@freebsdmall.com> <20020121083211.GA3147@rhadamanth> <20020121043433.A52241@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020121043433.A52241@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 04:34:33AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:32:11AM +0000, Ceri wrote: > > > Turning on the index for the FAQ is easy, but it would look strange > > > with only a very small subset of the document indexed. > > > > Something for me to do then! > > Unless Michael wants to do this at the same time he's overhauling ? > > It's a big job, I won't be greedy. :) OK, I'll spend some time looking into and adding 's to the FAQ then; with any luck this will be today, otherwise I'm probably looking at the weekend. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 4:10: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9DE37B404 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 04:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LCA1J65166; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 04:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D45937B402 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 04:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LC6B964558; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 04:06:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201211206.g0LC6B964558@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 04:06:11 -0800 (PST) From: Marian Cerny To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/34112: typo in Handbook, chapter 2.5.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34112 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typo in Handbook, chapter 2.5.3 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jan 21 04:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Marian Cerny >Release: 4.4-RELEASE >Organization: private >Environment: FreeBSD ivetka 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 18 11:57:08 PDT 2001 murray@builder.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: In chapter 2.5.3: > ...then use the (A)ll command to select the default > partitioning scheme followed by a (Quit. "(Quit" should be "(Q)uit" >How-To-Repeat: Open Handbook Chapter 2 Installing FreeBSD and look for the string "(Quit". >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 5:40: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8079937B405 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 05:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LDe2384306; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 05:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 05:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201211340.g0LDe2384306@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Hiten Pandya" Subject: Re: docs/34112: typo in Handbook, chapter 2.5.3 [PATCH] Reply-To: "Hiten Pandya" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34112; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Hiten Pandya" To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: cerny@spnv.sk Subject: Re: docs/34112: typo in Handbook, chapter 2.5.3 [PATCH] Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:30:10 GMT thanks Marian, I am submitting a patch which will resolve the issue, and the PR can be hopefully closed after this patch. Patch =============== --- chapter.sgml Thu Oct 25 04:27:51 2001 +++ chapter.sgml.new Mon Jan 21 08:15:48 2002 @@ -1937,7 +1937,7 @@ partitioning scheme for your hard disk. If you simply wish to devote all disk space to FreeBSD (overwriting anything else that might be on the disk(s) selected) then use the (A)ll command to select the default - partitioning scheme followed by a (Quit. If you wish to allocate only + partitioning scheme followed by a (Q)uit. If you wish to allocate only free space to FreeBSD, move to a partition marked "unused" and use the (C)reate command. [ OK ] =================== (a copy of this patch can also be obtained from http://www.pittgoth.com/~hiten/install.diff) thanks, regards, Hiten Pandya Security Fingerprint: 45 a5 9c f2 fb 07 da 70 18 02 0b f3 63 f1 7a a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 7:43:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A5037B402 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0LFiKD74998; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:44:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C4C3910.4060903@pittgoth.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:51:44 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready References: <200201210420.g0L4K1344692@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020121090159.GD3147@rhadamanth> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ceri wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2002 at 08:20:01PM -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > >> Thinking that most users would already have their system setup before >> compiling a kernel was the idea in mind when I wrote this, and that they >> would also enable softupdates on current partitions. I suppose, >> however, a man link or quick info line would not hurt one bit, should I >> submit another patch or just revise the section if/when this is commited? >> > > Since you also have that dist/disk error, I'd submit another patch as it > would make it easier for whoever commits this. > > Ceri > > > > Actually, reviewing the latest commits, Nik has already taken care of the kernel maxusers information, so I will send a notice to the nearist semi-busy committer (Bruce, Giorgos, MW?) to close this pr hehe... Thanks for input though Ceri! -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 7:56:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21108.mail.yahoo.com (web21108.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CEB337B47E for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:56:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020121155602.78853.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:56:02 PST Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:56:02 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready To: darklogik@pittgoth.com, Ceri Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3C4C3910.4060903@pittgoth.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Tom Rhodes wrote: > Actually, reviewing the latest commits, Nik has > already taken care of > the kernel maxusers information however, you might (as in might) want to add information about how to overcome the 4G KVA limit problem, and how to overcome this. I am saying this (hopefully) in behalf of all the people, who have been tired tapping their keyboards writing the same solution on the PR database, as well as the mailing lists. ;) (this includes me) I would have closed this issue, but as of now, I have a lot of burden from school (mocks) ;) ===== SSH Fingerprint: 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 9:20: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CB937B404 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LHK2Y69560; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201211720.g0LHK2Y69560@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Hiten Pandya" Subject: docs/32564 (close request ack.) Reply-To: "Hiten Pandya" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32564; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Hiten Pandya" To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: docs/32564 (close request ack.) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:01:36 GMT > This can probably be closed unless the originator feels > strongly that his last change should be applied. hmm, this PR can be closed, as it is true that this Patch is mostly incorrect, after dd pointed out the mistakes I made in this patch. If there is a need for another patch, I will surely submit one, but I am sure that the same type of change in the Alpha MAKEDEV.8 man page can be applied into the i386 MAKEDEV.8 man page. Otherwise, this PR can be closed without any problems. :-) regards, Hiten Pandya To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 10:11:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC9337B402; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:11:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LI27I78031; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:02:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:02:07 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201211802.g0LI27I78031@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cerny@spnv.sk, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34112: typo in Handbook, chapter 2.5.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in Handbook, chapter 2.5.3 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 21 10:00:54 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed in revision 1.131 of doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml Thank you :) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34112 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 10:21: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE7E37B419; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:21:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LIKXv85382; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:20:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:20:33 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201211820.g0LIKXv85382@freefall.freebsd.org> To: darklogik@pittgoth.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34036: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Kernel Config Chapter, not 4.5 ready State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 21 10:17:25 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Tmo, who submitted this, has told me in private mail he's got another patch coming, and will file a new PR when it is ready. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34036 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 10:21: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421E037B400; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:21:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LIE6p84374; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:14:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:14:06 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201211814.g0LIE6p84374@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hiten@uk.freebsd.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32564: [PATCH] MAKEDEV.8 (i386) - wd# is replaced by ad# Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] MAKEDEV.8 (i386) - wd# is replaced by ad# State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 21 10:13:08 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: By originator's request, after he discussed things with dd@FreeBSD.org. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32564 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 11: 1: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB86537B402 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:00:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LJ0aa92217 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:00:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:00:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201211900.g0LJ0aa92217@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2001/10/14] docs/31265 doc crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allo 3 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. s [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/06/06] docs/27915 doc man 5 passwd does not properly explain th o [2001/06/30] docs/28555 doc [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/22] docs/29143 doc List of man pages that need to be written o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP f [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/13] docs/30556 doc vnconfig man page incorrect; functionalit o [2001/09/15] docs/30603 doc physio(9) is internally inconsistent o [2001/09/24] docs/30809 doc fdisk(8) cleanup o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect a [2001/10/14] docs/31271 doc rl(4) discourages vender openness by disp o [2001/10/30] docs/31640 doc Avoiding uppercase program names in manpa o [2001/10/30] docs/31653 doc Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content o [2001/11/15] docs/32008 doc wrong path for dhclient.conf in dhclient- o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2001/11/16] docs/32041 doc Add point about net.inet.tcp.portange.{fi o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. a [2001/11/26] docs/32323 doc man page `named(8)' do not have link for o [2001/11/29] docs/32373 doc Bad ifconfig(8) alias advice in FAQ 10.9 o [2001/12/01] docs/32425 doc Document cvs update `P file' output o [2001/12/02] docs/32451 doc Missing images in vm-design article o [2001/12/02] docs/32463 doc ifconfig(8) missing address_family defaul o [2001/12/03] docs/32468 doc broken link in handbook: sysutils/mkisofs o [2001/12/07] docs/32578 doc A _really_ petty change to the front page o [2001/12/10] docs/32674 doc no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca o [2001/12/13] docs/32825 doc undocumented options in LINT o [2001/12/16] docs/32901 doc Misleading statement about "X Windows" o [2001/12/20] docs/33042 doc Minor changes to Chapter 2 of the handboo f [2001/12/25] docs/33164 doc New section for 'Storage' chapter of hand o [2001/12/27] docs/33259 doc docproj primer should document element-wi o [2001/12/30] docs/33354 doc no rsync section in mirror chapter of the o [2002/01/05] docs/33585 doc Possible Errata in ntp.conf.5 manpage o [2002/01/05] docs/33586 doc An errata in ntp.keys.5 manpage o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/07] docs/33639 doc ping(8) and ping6(8) are silent about SIG o [2002/01/07] docs/33654 doc openssl(1) contains many broken SEE ALSO o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- o [2002/01/14] docs/33907 doc dump(8) man page is misleading in nodump o [2002/01/16] docs/33937 doc Add a timezone related hint to make world o [2002/01/17] docs/34005 doc mmap man page description of ENOMEM is am o [2002/01/18] docs/34037 doc [PATCH] Updating handbook-mirrors chapter o [2002/01/18] docs/34038 doc [NEW ARTICLE] Upgrading a.out to Elf o [2002/01/18] docs/34047 doc [PATCH] function dev_depends() is referre o [2002/01/19] docs/34074 doc Handbook section 12.3 -- Adding Disks inc o [2002/01/20] docs/34088 doc a.out(5) fails to explain what bss is 56 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 11: 8: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195EB37B405 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:08:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LJ80V54954 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:08:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:08:00 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Practicalities of FAQ->Handbook migrations Message-ID: <20020121140800.A54903@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So, I have some extra time today and decided to pull some bits from the FAQ into the Handbook in preparation for our gradual migration towards a smaller FAQ. The first thing I come across is a bunch of stuff on using the mouse in console mode. This is asked frequently enough that we should have keep this information somewhere in addition to the man pages. There's no obvious place in the Handbook for it, though. Skimming through the FAQ, I think we're going to wind up with more material like this: general answers that are just too short to be an article, but don't quite fit in an existing portion of the Handbook. I suggest that we create a Handbook section called something like "Living with FreeBSD" that contains small, catch-all tutorials. Thoughts? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 11:56:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7369537B400 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:56:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0LJvDD75360; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:57:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-Id: <200201211957.g0LJvDD75360@pittgoth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com To: Michael Lucas , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Practicalities of FAQ->Handbook migrations Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:03:06 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20020121140800.A54903@blackhelicopters.org> In-Reply-To: <20020121140800.A54903@blackhelicopters.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 21 January 2002 02:08 pm, Michael Lucas wrote: > So, I have some extra time today and decided to pull some bits from > the FAQ into the Handbook in preparation for our gradual migration > towards a smaller FAQ. > > The first thing I come across is a bunch of stuff on using the mouse > in console mode. This is asked frequently enough that we should have > keep this information somewhere in addition to the man pages. > > There's no obvious place in the Handbook for it, though. > > Skimming through the FAQ, I think we're going to wind up with more > material like this: general answers that are just too short to be an > article, but don't quite fit in an existing portion of the Handbook. > > I suggest that we create a Handbook section called something like > "Living with FreeBSD" that contains small, catch-all tutorials. > Thoughts? > > ==ml This sounds like a unique idea. "Living with FreeBSD" or "FreeBSD in your daily life" or something similar, in which alot of minor informal tidbits would be thrown into, like short informatives. 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------000000000000000000000-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 12:38:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5332937B400 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:38:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0LKe3D75429; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:40:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-Id: <200201212040.g0LKe3D75429@pittgoth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com To: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: Practicalities of FAQ->Handbook migrations Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:45:55 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020121140800.A54903@blackhelicopters.org> <200201211957.g0LJvDD75360@pittgoth.com> <20020121150324.A55418@blackhelicopters.org> In-Reply-To: <20020121150324.A55418@blackhelicopters.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 21 January 2002 03:03 pm, Michael Lucas wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 03:03:06PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >When can we start :) > > Sorry, you forgot to attach your patch. ;-) > > Seriously, I'm not trying to be cute here. (Well, okay, maybe a > *tiny* bit cute.) We just have a lot of brief bits in the FAQ that > don't really fit in an existing Handbook section. > > The nice thing about this is that we will have the ability to split > things out easily. "Oh, we have a bunch for short bits on using mice, > let's open up a mice chapter." I knew something that something wasn't correct when I sent that. I'll attach on the next reply :) Anyways, a quick question, quick answer chapter would be nice, but do you have a vision of "one line question 2-3 line answer" type of chapter, or would you like the answers to be a bit more broad than what the FAQ currently carries? This is your started project, but I would be more than happy to lend a hand (no cutting off jokes pls :) I'm rather attached to them) --Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 13:50: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DED37B417 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LLo1N35521; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mortis.sighup.org (mortis.over-yonder.net [64.89.206.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C695D37B419 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:45:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by mortis.sighup.org (Postfix, from userid 100) id DFB271F31; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:45:32 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <20020121214532.DFB271F31@mortis.sighup.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:45:32 -0600 (CST) From: "Matthew D.Fuller" Reply-To: "Matthew D.Fuller" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/34134: ps.1 niglet Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34134 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ps.1 niglet >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jan 21 13:50:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Matthew D. Fuller >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Yeah, right >Environment: System: FreeBSD mortis.sighup.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Oct 31 00:17:52 CST 2001 fullermd@mortis.sighup.org:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MORTIS i386 >Description: ps.1 has some niglets in its FILES section. - /dev/drum no longer exists, and hasn't for rather a while - "/dev - special files and device names" Yes, that's true. Why do I, the reader of ps.1, care? >How-To-Repeat: man 1 ps >Fix: Index: ps.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/bin/ps/ps.1,v retrieving revision 1.39 diff -u -r1.39 ps.1 --- ps.1 2001/12/04 14:17:52 1.39 +++ ps.1 2002/01/21 21:39:37 @@ -500,10 +500,6 @@ .El .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width /var/db/kvm_kernel.db -compact -.It Pa /dev -special files and device names -.It Pa /dev/drum -default swap device .It Pa /dev/kmem default kernel memory .It Pa /dev/lomac >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 13:57:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FF737B402 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LLrDp29542; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:53:13 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:53:13 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Practicalities of FAQ->Handbook migrations Message-ID: <20020121215313.K18715@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020121140800.A54903@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="00hq2S6J2Jlg6EbK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020121140800.A54903@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 02:08:00PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --00hq2S6J2Jlg6EbK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 02:08:00PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > I suggest that we create a Handbook section called something like > "Living with FreeBSD" that contains small, catch-all tutorials. > Thoughts? Why not create a new top-level book for it? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --00hq2S6J2Jlg6EbK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxMjckACgkQk6gHZCw343XAWwCdFZNXQOcY7EzbB4kanMME/x1M 5+sAn1J3Qf0xtZ5hoWuT9p/eVcmDvRqq =UdDA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --00hq2S6J2Jlg6EbK-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 14:20:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C14D37B419 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LMK1a43550; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8849037B404 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from darklogik@localhost) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LMGx875621; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:16:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik) Message-Id: <200201212216.g0LMGx875621@pittgoth.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:16:59 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/34137: [PATCH] Kernel config chapter in handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34137 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Kernel config chapter in handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jan 21 14:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: >Release: FreeBSD 4.5 >Organization: nope >Environment: System: FreeBSD localhost 4.5 >Description: Handbook kernel configuration chapter is lacking some options, this patch will add a paragraph that will add the softupdates option, along with two man page refs, newfs(8) and tunefs(8). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve *** chapter.sgml.old Mon Jan 21 14:05:44 2002 --- chapter.sgml Mon Jan 21 16:10:14 2002 *************** *** 601,606 **** --- 601,613 ---- This is the basic hard drive filesystem. Leave it in if you boot from the hard disk. + options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support + + This option enables soft updates in the kernel, this will speed up write access on most + filesystems considerably, but they are not enabled by default. You will + need to enable them manually with the &man.tunefs.8; command for current filesystems, + or &man.newfs.8; to enable them on new filesystems. + options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories This option includes some code to speed up disk operations on large >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 14:24: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (gigo.com [207.173.11.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D2D37B404 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from 200.193.224.10 (unknown [200.193.224.10]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB96B8ED for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 98341 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Jan 2002 22:23:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20020121222331.98340.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:23:09 -0200 From: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , Roberto Cantanhede , Jose Porfirio , Hammurabi Mendes Subject: Initial translation to pt_BR effort (review plz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-RC X-Disclaimer: I hope you find what you are looking for... in life :) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I would like people to review this initial effort of a translation to Brazilian Portuguese of the FreeBSD documentation. The work finished so far can be found at http://people.freebsd.org/~lioux/pt_BR.ISO8859-1.tgz It requires patches to doc/Makefile doc/share/sgml/catalog which can be found at http://people.freebsd.org/~lioux/patch-doc This part only contains both mirrors and pgpkeys chapters of the FreeBSD Handbook. Additional chapters are being translated and will be added within the following months. We expect to have the Handbook fully translated within a year which is a reasonable timeframe given that the FreeBSD Handbook is on going project. :) The Brazilian Portuguese translation has been cross peer reviewed in the last 2 months and a lot of work has gone into making sure it is good to be released. Of course, we do not expect it to be perfect but accurate. Please check the building issues and if it conforms to doc/ CVS tree guidelines. xemacs with adapted configuration from both FPD documentation and mailing lists was used. Where it was not good, vi with fmt was used to achieve full conformance with FPD formatting guidelines. Nothing new was added to the documentation. Only "verbatim" translation as mandated by FPD guidelines. Please, let me know what can I do to improve this work and when/if it can be imported to the doc/ repo. I was working with asmodai but he has retired for a while. :) Therefore, I would require either someone to work with me or a mentor if I were to be accepted as a doc committer (I am already a ports committer). I intend to write patches to http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/translations.html adding contact information about this when/if this added to doc/ repo. Regards, -- Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." Computer Science Undergraduate | FreeBSD Committer | CS Developer flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 14:42: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from flock1.newmail.ru (flock1.newmail.ru [212.48.140.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8186737B400 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:42:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15503 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2002 22:42:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ts12-a190.dial.sovam.com) (195.239.1.190) by hawk.newmail.ru with SMTP; 21 Jan 2002 22:42:00 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:42:00 +0300 From: Mike X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Mike Organization: NIIAA X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1533589049.20010122014200@nm.ru> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: =?koi8-r?B?7sHSz8Qg8O/t7+fp9OUgUExa?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello freebsd-doc, óÒÏÞÎÏ ÎÕÖÎÁ ÉÎÆÁ ËÁË ×Ï FreeBSD 2.2.5 ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÎÏ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÔØ Ó ÕÓÔÒÏÊÓÔ×ÁÍÉ, Ô.Å. ÕÚÎÁÔØ ÓËÏÌØËÏ ÇÏÌÏ×, ÓÔÏÒÏÎ, ÏÂßÅÍ É Ô.Ä. É Ô.Ð. -- Best regards, Mike mailto:mikeshilkin@nm.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 14:47:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA8437B405; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LMlCo56405; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:47:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:47:12 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Practicalities of FAQ->Handbook migrations Message-ID: <20020121174711.A56388@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020121140800.A54903@blackhelicopters.org> <20020121215313.K18715@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020121215313.K18715@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 09:53:13PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 09:53:13PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 02:08:00PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > I suggest that we create a Handbook section called something like > > "Living with FreeBSD" that contains small, catch-all tutorials. > > Thoughts? > > Why not create a new top-level book for it? > > N The "Miscellaneous FreeBSD Cra^H^H^HStuff Guide?" I suppose we could. I'd personally prefer a single book with everything in it, but will obey the consensus of the group. Whaddaya think, folks? -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 15: 1:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C0637B404 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0LN1EF56503; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:01:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:01:14 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Tom Rhodes Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Practicalities of FAQ->Handbook migrations Message-ID: <20020121180114.A56458@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020121140800.A54903@blackhelicopters.org> <200201211957.g0LJvDD75360@pittgoth.com> <20020121150324.A55418@blackhelicopters.org> <200201212040.g0LKe3D75429@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201212040.g0LKe3D75429@pittgoth.com>; from darklogik@pittgoth.com on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 03:45:55PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 03:45:55PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Anyways, a quick question, quick answer chapter would be nice, but do you > have a vision I had visions, but the little white pills stopped most of them. Now if I could only do something about the voices, I'd be all set. of "one line question 2-3 line answer" type of chapter, or > would you like the answers to be a bit more broad than what the FAQ currently > carries? This is your started project, but I would be more than happy to > lend a hand (no cutting off jokes pls :) I'm rather attached to them) Seriously, I don't have much in the way of vision here. We have some entries in the FAQ that really aren't frequently asked. In practical terms, our FAQ is "short bits of documentation, plus FAQs" while the Handbook is "long bits of documentation." We want to make the FAQ just FAQs, fine. But what do we do with short bits? I'll ponder for a bit. Perhaps a new book would be the best thing. -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 16:23:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BF837B400; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b165.otenet.gr [212.205.244.173]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g0M0NW401107; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 02:23:33 +0200 (EET) Received: by hades.hell.gr (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 17EEE34; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 02:23:30 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 02:23:29 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Michael Lucas Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Practicalities of FAQ->Handbook migrations Message-ID: <20020122002329.GB1051@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020121140800.A54903@blackhelicopters.org> <20020121215313.K18715@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20020121174711.A56388@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020121174711.A56388@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-01-21 17:47:12, Michael Lucas wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 09:53:13PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 02:08:00PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > > I suggest that we create a Handbook section called something like > > > "Living with FreeBSD" that contains small, catch-all tutorials. > > > Thoughts? > > > > Why not create a new top-level book for it? > > The "Miscellaneous FreeBSD Cra^H^H^HStuff Guide?" > > I suppose we could. I'd personally prefer a single book with > everything in it, but will obey the consensus of the group. > > Whaddaya think, folks? I think that the Handbook and FAQ are pretty nice, already. I've thought at times of something like: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/daily "Using FreeBSD for every-day work" but, I'm not sure what how that would be different from the FAQ or the Handbook we already have. I'd really be glad to see a collection of things like: - I just installed FreeBSD, now what? - I just want to read my email dammit. - Where's my browser? - No, no, I don't want to have to login. and other nice things that users will start asking once they install an operating system. I say, Michael, start something... -- Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org} FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 16:50:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.vub.ac.be (guppy.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E660637B42A for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:50:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from fort-knox.rave.org (igwe15.vub.ac.be [134.184.49.15]) by guppy.vub.ac.be (8.9.1b+Sun/3.17.1.ap (guppy)) id BAA11793; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 01:49:56 +0100 (MET) for Received: (qmail 1548 invoked by uid 1979); 22 Jan 2002 00:50:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jan 2002 00:50:00 -0000 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 01:50:00 +0100 (CET) From: Wouter Van Hemel To: Michael Lucas Cc: Tom Rhodes , Subject: Re: Practicalities of FAQ->Handbook migrations In-Reply-To: <20020121180114.A56458@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: PGP: 0B B4 BC 28 53 62 FE 94 6A 57 EE B8 A6 E2 1B E4 (0xAA5412F0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Michael Lucas wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 03:45:55PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > Anyways, a quick question, quick answer chapter would be nice, but do you > > have a vision > > I had visions, but the little white pills stopped most of them. Now > if I could only do something about the voices, I'd be all set. > Set for what? :) > of "one line question 2-3 line answer" type of chapter, or > > would you like the answers to be a bit more broad than what the FAQ currently > > carries? This is your started project, but I would be more than happy to > > lend a hand (no cutting off jokes pls :) I'm rather attached to them) > > Seriously, I don't have much in the way of vision here. > > We have some entries in the FAQ that really aren't frequently asked. > In practical terms, our FAQ is "short bits of documentation, plus > FAQs" while the Handbook is "long bits of documentation." > > We want to make the FAQ just FAQs, fine. But what do we do with short > bits? > > I'll ponder for a bit. Perhaps a new book would be the best thing. > What if it's just done the way the handbook's done? Divide it in chapters, group contents in categories so it's easy to find... Then we'd have the handbook, with all theory and "long bits of documentation", and the faq-book, which would have smaller, more practical and specific topics... So people can follow the handbook if they don't know the _how_, and read the problem-book if the _how_ doesn't work out quite as good as it says. I admit I have to read up a bit on the recent form of e.g. the handbook, but maybe the "chapters" could be just the same in both books, what could make linking from the more theorical to the more practical pretty transparent. That only works if the faq's really too big. Either it isn't, and then it doesn't need to be cut up, or it is, and the proper form needs to be established... About 2.x specific faq's: if you ask me, forget them, if they are really only valuable for those releases. Let's focus on the future, and not try to spend too much time into supporting the stone-age. A faq is only a faq if it's fa'd... If nobody asks anymore, throw it out. There still is -questions@, just like for all the lesser asked questions. That's ofcourse my opinion. ;) Kind regards, wouter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 20:44:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.engstringen.com (ns2.engstringen.com [66.33.48.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6AE37B430 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 20:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from brofredv (pop-mu-3-1-dialup-253.freesurf.ch [194.230.132.253]) by www.stopaids.ch (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g0M4gcA25408 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:42:38 +0100 From: Büro für EDV Message-ID: <002701c1a308$ce887600$fd84e6c2@brofredv> To: Subject: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:51:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01C1A311.2EE33BE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C1A311.2EE33BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 Why are Pages in the net, how have non Doctype in the first colum and = they say to me, hi can't read my Homepage ? 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------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C1A311.2EE33BE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jan 21 21:33:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2E437B400 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E175BD94; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14795; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:33:13 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0M5aVZ01424; Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:36:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Practicalities of FAQ->Handbook migrations References: <20020121140800.A54903@blackhelicopters.org> <20020121215313.K18715@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20020121174711.A56388@blackhelicopters.org> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 21 Jan 2002 21:36:31 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20020121174711.A56388@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas writes: > I suppose we could. I'd personally prefer a single book with > everything in it, but will obey the consensus of the group. > > Whaddaya think, folks? Ideally the handbook is comprehensive enough that the FAQ is not needed, except perhaps as an alternative form of TOC/index into the handbook. But as long as there are both a Handbook and a FAQ, and they are equally well organized for finding info, the only reason I see to move info to the Handbook is to eliminate duplication (so there is less to maintain and less that users must read), and not to just make it smaller. But since there has been and should be more investment of effort in organizing the handbook, it makes sense to move stuff there. When it's hard to find a place in the Handbook for something, I'd think that's an indication that the Handbook organization needs expansion. It would be hard work (both design and implementation), but I think it's the only thing that would make the move of info from the FAQ to the Handbook valuable. A catch-all chapter or book is no better than leaving the stuff in the FAQ, except that you'd then have essentially have three places to look for help (plus the man pages, articles, READMEs, etc). P.S. Maybe more though needs to be given to multi-level presentation of info; "Quick Start", "Cook-book of SA Tasks", etc., but I think it's too much work and that level of stuff is best left to articles. For now, it would be better to have a consistent level of rather dense information. (Maybe with some embedded examples and recipes.) I.e., I don't see the FAQ as a place for an alternate level of info. P.P.S. I'd like the FAQ better if the top TOC had all the questions instead of burying them at the start of each chapter. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 0:50: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265E137B419 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0M8o0g79230; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C8137B41C for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0M8lTB78809; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:47:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201220847.g0M8lTB78809@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:47:29 -0800 (PST) From: Marian Cerny To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/34155: mistake in Handbook Section 3.5 Processes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34155 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mistake in Handbook Section 3.5 Processes >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 22 00:50:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Marian Cerny >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE >Organization: private >Environment: FreeBSD ivetka 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 18 11:57:08 PDT 2001 murray@builder.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: In Handbook, Section 3.5 - Processes: > As you can see in this example, the output from [12]ps(1) is organized > in to a number of columns. PID is the process ID discussed earlier. > PIDs are assigned starting from 1, go up to 65536, and wrap around ^^^^^ > back to the beginning when you run out. TT shows the tty the program > is running on, and can safely be ignored for the moment. STAT shows This is confusing. In the example above (output from ps) is "72210 p0 R+ 0:00.00 ps", ^^^^^ and in the example below (outpout from top) is "last pid: 72257; load averages: 0.13, 0.09, 0.03 up 0+13:38:33 22:39:10" ^^^^^ So after a while of investigation I found out that on my computer there also are processes with PID higher than 65536. The highest value I have seen was 99651. After a while, new processes got numbers around 500. So I think that "65536" should be changed to "99999", if 99999 is the right value. >How-To-Repeat: Have a look at Hanbook Section 3.5, then look for "65536". >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 2:31:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B80037B400; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 02:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MATQV02132; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 02:29:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 02:29:26 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201221029.g0MATQV02132@freefall.freebsd.org> To: fullermd@over-yonder.net, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/34134: ps.1 niglet Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ps.1 niglet State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 22 02:28:15 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: I have a more radical patch regarding the -W option. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Jan 22 02:28:15 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34134 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 3: 7:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5B237B416; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA91783; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:06:58 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g0MB6PG41249; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:06:25 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:06:25 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , Roberto Cantanhede , Jose Porfirio , Hammurabi Mendes Subject: Re: Initial translation to pt_BR effort (review plz) Message-ID: <20020122130625.A37687@ark.cris.net> References: <20020121222331.98340.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20020121222331.98340.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here>; from lioux@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:23:09PM -0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mario, I gave short look and have to say that it's looks promising :-) I may suggest you following scheme how to smoothly go pt_BR's docs in. . for first time leave documents in tree committed, but not connected to build (at least version which you've put to url noted below should not build). As example I may note russian handbook which still is under translation and is available from built form from my website, but it will not be connected to build until completely translated (to avoid distributing partialy translated document with main FreeBSD dist) . ask -core to upgrade your commit bits for docs area (count me as mentor :) ) . you will be working on translation (or become "gate" between translators and source tree) . after period when handbook's translation will grow more or other (completely translated documents) appears they'll be connected to build On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:23:09PM -0200, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > Hi, > > I would like people to review this initial effort of a > translation to Brazilian Portuguese of the FreeBSD documentation. > > The work finished so far can be found at > http://people.freebsd.org/~lioux/pt_BR.ISO8859-1.tgz > It requires patches to > > doc/Makefile > doc/share/sgml/catalog > > which can be found at > > http://people.freebsd.org/~lioux/patch-doc > > This part only contains both mirrors and pgpkeys chapters > of the FreeBSD Handbook. Additional chapters are being translated > and will be added within the following months. We expect to have > the Handbook fully translated within a year which is a reasonable > timeframe given that the FreeBSD Handbook is on going project. :) > The Brazilian Portuguese translation has been cross peer > reviewed in the last 2 months and a lot of work has gone into making > sure it is good to be released. Of course, we do not expect it to > be perfect but accurate. > Please check the building issues and if it conforms to > doc/ CVS tree guidelines. xemacs with adapted configuration from > both FPD documentation and mailing lists was used. Where it was not > good, vi with fmt was used to achieve full conformance with FPD > formatting guidelines. > Nothing new was added to the documentation. Only "verbatim" > translation as mandated by FPD guidelines. > Please, let me know what can I do to improve this work and > when/if it can be imported to the doc/ repo. > I was working with asmodai but he has retired for a while. :) > Therefore, I would require either someone to work with me or a > mentor if I were to be accepted as a doc committer (I am already a > ports committer). > I intend to write patches to > http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/translations.html > adding contact information about this when/if this added to doc/ > repo. Just Do It (tm) :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 3:30: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A765C37B404 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MBU2K16524; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201221130.g0MBU2K16524@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: docs/34074: Handbook section 12.3 -- Adding Disks incomplete instructions for using disklabel Reply-To: Hiten Pandya Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34074; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Hiten Pandya To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: cameron@toolhouse.com Subject: Re: docs/34074: Handbook section 12.3 -- Adding Disks incomplete instructions for using disklabel Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:29:46 -0800 (PST) Sorry for the bluntness, but, AFAIK, all requests by /stand/sysinstall are normally completed without any errors. The man page, does mention about the -W option, and its actions, but I've never found the need to apply this parameter to disklabel(8). Does this disklabel(8) issue arise only in certain conditions? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 3:31:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cvis22.marconicomms.com (cvis22.marconicomms.com [195.99.244.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBC137B416 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:31:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from cvis06.marconicomms.com (unverified) by cvis22.marconicomms.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:31:24 +0000 Received: from cvdgwy01.uk.marconicomms.com by cvis06.marconicomms.com with ESMTP (8.10.2+Sun/cvms-34) id g0MBVRN03754; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:31:27 GMT Subject: Installing FreeBSD To: doc@FreeBSD.org From: "Pablo Pastor" Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:31:19 +0000 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CVDGWY01/S/EXT/MC1(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 22/01/2002 11:31:25 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sirs is just a couple of simple questions 1) In your installation guide section named 2.5.3 Creating Slices using FDisk (...) If you have already made space for FreeBSD (perhaps by using a tool such as Partition Magic) then you can press C to create a new slice. Again, you will be prompted for the size of slice you would like to create. When finished, press Q. Your changes will be saved in Sysinstall, but will not yet be written to disk. (...) Are you not forgetting to mention that when a new FreeBSD slice is created, user needs to press S to set the slice as Bootable? 2) If I download my distributions using FTP, and using Microsoft Internet Explorer to access the FTP mirror, can I just download the files as they are or will they be downloaded then in the wrong format. I.E. Do I need to use a dedicated FTP program and ensure that the binaries are downloaded as binaries and not ASCII, or will MS Internet Explorer pick up the correct default format Thanks for your attention and I look forward to your answer Pablo Pastor Marconi Liverpool, UK ------------ This e-mail and any attachments are confidential. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 4:18:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from a96180.upc-a.chello.nl (a96180.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.96.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264F937B405; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:18:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by a96180.upc-a.chello.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 50B81216F; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:18:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:18:05 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Roberto Cantanhede , Jose Porfirio , Hammurabi Mendes Subject: Re: Initial translation to pt_BR effort (review plz) Message-ID: <20020122121804.GE68034@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <20020121222331.98340.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <20020122130625.A37687@ark.cris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020122130625.A37687@ark.cris.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Organisation: Ninth Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [20020122 12:15], Alexey Zelkin (phantom@ark.cris.net) wrote: >. ask -core to upgrade your commit bits for docs area (count me as >mentor :) ) Bzzt. That's Nik's territory, not -core. Core only does src. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven / asmodai / Kita no Mono / xMach coreteam asmodai@[wxs.nl|xmach.org], finger asmodai@ninth-circle.org http://www.softweyr.com/asmodai/ Don't try to find the Answer where there ain't no Question here... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 4:20:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A022737B404 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MCK1A35569; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz (kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.8.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C0137B41A for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:12:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cejkar@localhost) by kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MCC5I74962; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:12:05 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200201221212.g0MCC5I74962@kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:12:05 +0100 (CET) From: cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz Reply-To: cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/34161: e-mail change Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34161 >Category: docs >Synopsis: e-mail change >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 22 04:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rudolf Cejka >Release: >Organization: Brno University of Technology, FIT, Czech Republic >Environment: >Description: Please update my e-mail address from cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz to cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz in documentation: --- en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml.orig Tue Jan 22 13:00:59 2002 +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml Tue Jan 22 13:01:05 2002 @@ -5847,7 +5847,7 @@ - Rudolf Cejka cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz + Rudolf Cejka cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml.orig Tue Jan 22 13:03:09 2002 +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml Tue Jan 22 13:03:16 2002 @@ -2994,7 +2994,7 @@ cvsup.cz.FreeBSD.org (maintainer - cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz) + cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz) And a list for translators: --- fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml --- ja_JP.eucJP/articles/contributors/article.sgml --- ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml --- ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml PS: I did not change place, but our faculty has been splitted into two new faculties, so please invite our new Faculty of Information Technology at Brno University of Technology in the Czech Republic, http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/ ;-)) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 4:20:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC64537B400 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MCK3s35575; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:20:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201221220.g0MCK3s35575@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Peter Pentchev Subject: Re: docs/34155: mistake in Handbook Section 3.5 Processes Reply-To: Peter Pentchev Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34155; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Peter Pentchev To: Marian Cerny Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34155: mistake in Handbook Section 3.5 Processes Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:13:23 +0200 On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 12:47:29AM -0800, Marian Cerny wrote: > > >Number: 34155 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: mistake in Handbook Section 3.5 Processes > >Originator: Marian Cerny > >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE > >Organization: > private > >Environment: > FreeBSD ivetka 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 18 11:57:08 PDT 2001 > murray@builder.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 > >Description: > In Handbook, Section 3.5 - Processes: > > > As you can see in this example, the output from [12]ps(1) is organized > > in to a number of columns. PID is the process ID discussed earlier. > > PIDs are assigned starting from 1, go up to 65536, and wrap around > ^^^^^ > > back to the beginning when you run out. TT shows the tty the program > > is running on, and can safely be ignored for the moment. STAT shows > > This is confusing. In the example above (output from ps) is > "72210 p0 R+ 0:00.00 ps", > ^^^^^ > and in the example below (outpout from top) is > "last pid: 72257; load averages: 0.13, 0.09, 0.03 up 0+13:38:33 22:39:10" > ^^^^^ > > So after a while of investigation I found out that on my computer there > also are processes with PID higher than 65536. The highest value I have > seen was 99651. After a while, new processes got numbers around 500. > > So I think that "65536" should be changed to "99999", if 99999 is the > right value. Yep, 99999 is the correct value, as witnessed by the PID_MAX constant in . Patch attached for the convenience of doc committers. G'luck, Peter -- I am not the subject of this sentence. Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.55 diff -u -r1.55 chapter.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml 11 Jan 2002 02:50:21 -0000 1.55 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml 22 Jan 2002 12:11:18 -0000 @@ -780,7 +780,7 @@ As you can see in this example, the output from &man.ps.1; is organized in to a number of columns. PID is the process ID discussed earlier. PIDs are assigned starting from 1, go up - to 65536, and wrap around back to the beginning when you run out. + to 99999, and wrap around back to the beginning when you run out. TT shows the tty the program is running on, and can safely be ignored for the moment. STAT shows the program's state, and again, can be safely ignored. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 4:27:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21104.mail.yahoo.com (web21104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE89437B476 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:27:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020122122743.88253.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:27:43 PST Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:27:43 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD To: Pablo Pastor Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Pablo Pastor wrote: > Are you not forgetting to mention that when a new > FreeBSD slice is created, > user needs to press S to set the slice as Bootable? This depends, on if the slice is added to an existing system, or a new system. If there is only one slice on the system, which is the FreeBSD slice, then the slice is automatically flagged as bootable, but if you have a second partition such as your Windows system, than your old settings will remain the same, i.e. you can boot your windows. Also, when you press (Q)uit in sysinstall's fdisk, it will ask you if you want to install a boot manager, which will give you the choice of booting your FreeBSD and windows. > 2) If I download my distributions using FTP, and > using Microsoft Internet Explorer to access the > FTP mirror, can I just download the files as they > are or will they be downloaded then in the wrong > format. Version 4.0+ of IE automatically determines file type (ascii or binary). Although, if it doesn't there is a way to change the download type. > I.E. Do I need to use a dedicated FTP program and > ensure that the binaries > are downloaded as binaries and not ASCII, or will MS > Internet Explorer pick > up the correct default format It should in most recent versions. ;) regards, - Hiten Pandya - __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 5:20:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B98D37B405 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MDK1W52115; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F250837B404 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MDJVV52015; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:19:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201221319.g0MDJVV52015@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:19:31 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/34163: [PATCH] section 12.7.1.1.4 (spelling mistake) in Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34163 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] section 12.7.1.1.4 (spelling mistake) in Handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 22 05:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Hiten Pandya >Release: 5.0-CURRENT >Organization: The FreeBSD Project >Environment: n/a >Description: The section 12.7.1.1.4 of the handbook, i.e. RAID subsection, has a incorrect spelling in the title. Current title: Making it All Automagic (wrong) New title: Making it all Automatic (correct) patch supplied below. regards, - Hiten - >How-To-Repeat: Visit section 12.7.1.1.4 and notice the title. >Fix: --- chapter.sgml Tue Jan 22 07:03:48 2002 +++ chapter.sgml.new Tue Jan 22 08:14:09 2002 @@ -1170,7 +1170,7 @@ - Making It All Automagic + Making it all Automatic Finally, if I want to be able to mount the ccd, I need to >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 5:21:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41D737B402; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MDFHL51200; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:15:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:15:17 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201221315.g0MDFHL51200@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, mwlucas@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/34155: mistake in Handbook Section 3.5 Processes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: mistake in Handbook Section 3.5 Processes Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mwlucas Responsible-Changed-By: mwlucas Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Jan 22 05:14:22 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mmmm... easy fix, I'll take it. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34155 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 5:22: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D768F37B402 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MDLnu60351; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:21:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:21:49 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Peter Pentchev Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/34155: mistake in Handbook Section 3.5 Processes Message-ID: <20020122082149.A60293@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200201221220.g0MCK3s35575@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201221220.g0MCK3s35575@freefall.freebsd.org>; from roam@ringlet.net on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 04:20:03AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, since there's confirmation, I'll take this. Patch applied (sort of... it was simple enough to just *do*. But thanks. :) On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 04:20:03AM -0800, Peter Pentchev wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/34155; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Peter Pentchev > To: Marian Cerny > Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: docs/34155: mistake in Handbook Section 3.5 Processes > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:13:23 +0200 > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 12:47:29AM -0800, Marian Cerny wrote: > > > > >Number: 34155 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: mistake in Handbook Section 3.5 Processes > > >Originator: Marian Cerny > > >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE > > >Organization: > > private > > >Environment: > > FreeBSD ivetka 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 18 11:57:08 PDT 2001 > > murray@builder.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 > > >Description: > > In Handbook, Section 3.5 - Processes: > > > > > As you can see in this example, the output from [12]ps(1) is organized > > > in to a number of columns. PID is the process ID discussed earlier. > > > PIDs are assigned starting from 1, go up to 65536, and wrap around > > ^^^^^ > > > back to the beginning when you run out. TT shows the tty the program > > > is running on, and can safely be ignored for the moment. STAT shows > > > > This is confusing. In the example above (output from ps) is > > "72210 p0 R+ 0:00.00 ps", > > ^^^^^ > > and in the example below (outpout from top) is > > "last pid: 72257; load averages: 0.13, 0.09, 0.03 up 0+13:38:33 22:39:10" > > ^^^^^ > > > > So after a while of investigation I found out that on my computer there > > also are processes with PID higher than 65536. The highest value I have > > seen was 99651. After a while, new processes got numbers around 500. > > > > So I think that "65536" should be changed to "99999", if 99999 is the > > right value. > > Yep, 99999 is the correct value, as witnessed by the PID_MAX constant > in . > > Patch attached for the convenience of doc committers. > > G'luck, > Peter > > -- > I am not the subject of this sentence. > > Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.55 > diff -u -r1.55 chapter.sgml > --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml 11 Jan 2002 02:50:21 -0000 1.55 > +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml 22 Jan 2002 12:11:18 -0000 > @@ -780,7 +780,7 @@ > As you can see in this example, the output from &man.ps.1; is > organized in to a number of columns. PID is the > process ID discussed earlier. PIDs are assigned starting from 1, go up > - to 65536, and wrap around back to the beginning when you run out. > + to 99999, and wrap around back to the beginning when you run out. > TT shows the tty the program is running on, and can > safely be ignored for the moment. STAT shows the > program's state, and again, can be safely ignored. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 5:51:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF86437B41E for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MDo0C67222; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D262037B405 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-v3qsara.dsl.mindspring.com ([199.174.43.106] helo=jayed.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16T1EH-00011X-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:44:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 4925 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Jan 2002 13:50:01 -0000 Message-Id: <20020122135001.4924.qmail@jayed.com> Date: 22 Jan 2002 13:50:01 -0000 From: Jay Edwards Reply-To: Jay Edwards To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/34166: [patch] FAQ uses informal "How come..." instead of "Why..." Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34166 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] FAQ uses informal "How come..." instead of "Why..." >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 22 05:50:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jay Edwards >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD bigjay.jayed.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Jan 4 20:38:29 CST 2002 jayed@bigjay.jayed.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BIGJAY i386 >Description: A number of questions in the FAQ start with "How come..." instead of the more formal "Why..." Two of the "How come" sentences also used "not seem to be working" instead of "not working". I submit that anyone specifically looking for those two questions would classify their problem as "not working". No contractions were used in the making of this patch. >How-To-Repeat: Read FAQ. >Fix: --- howcome.diff begins here --- Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.365 diff -c -r1.365 book.sgml *** en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 2002/01/22 11:14:58 1.365 --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 2002/01/22 13:39:29 *************** *** 3290,3296 **** ! How come FreeBSD cannot find my internal Plug & Play modem? --- 3290,3296 ---- ! Why is FreeBSD not finding my internal Plug & Play modem? *************** *** 3523,3529 **** ! How come FreeBSD does not recognize my Bustek 742a EISA SCSI controller? --- 3523,3529 ---- ! Why does FreeBSD not recognize my Bustek 742a EISA SCSI controller? *************** *** 3570,3576 **** ! How come FreeBSD does not detect my HP Netserver's SCSI controller? --- 3570,3576 ---- ! Why does FreeBSD not detect my HP Netserver's SCSI controller? *************** *** 3994,4000 **** ! How come FreeBSD uses only 64 MB of RAM when my system has 128 MB of RAM installed? --- 3994,4000 ---- ! Why does FreeBSD only use 64 MB of RAM when my system has 128 MB of RAM installed? *************** *** 6849,6855 **** ! How come I cannot get user quotas to work properly? --- 6849,6855 ---- ! Why can I not get user quotas to work properly? *************** *** 7364,7370 **** ! How come I cannot create the snd0 device? --- 7364,7370 ---- ! Why can I not create the snd0 device? *************** *** 8458,8465 **** ! How come my PS/2 mouse from MouseSystems does not seem ! to work? --- 8458,8465 ---- ! Why does my PS/2 mouse from MouseSystems not ! work? *************** *** 8951,8957 **** ! How come I cannot create a /dev/ed0 device? --- 8951,8957 ---- ! Why can I not create a /dev/ed0 device? *************** *** 10203,10209 **** ! How come &man.ppp.8; over a null-modem cable never exits? --- 10203,10209 ---- ! Why does &man.ppp.8; over a null-modem cable never exit? *************** *** 11230,11237 **** ! How come the <@> sign for the pn ! capability does not work? The <@> sign in the phone number capability tells tip to look in --- 11230,11237 ---- ! Why does the <@> sign for the pn ! capability not work? The <@> sign in the phone number capability tells tip to look in *************** *** 11453,11459 **** ! How come FreeBSD cannot seem to find my serial ports, even when the settings are correct? --- 11453,11459 ---- ! Why does FreeBSD not find my serial ports, even when the settings are correct? *************** *** 12471,12478 **** ! How come when my system boots, it says (bus speed ! defaulted)? --- 12471,12478 ---- ! Why does my system say (bus speed ! defaulted) when it boots? --- howcome.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 6:14:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3227037B416; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:14:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MEEP660710; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:14:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:14:25 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Practicalities of FAQ->Handbook migrations Message-ID: <20020122091425.A60697@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020121140800.A54903@blackhelicopters.org> <20020121215313.K18715@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20020121174711.A56388@blackhelicopters.org> <20020122002329.GB1051@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020122002329.GB1051@hades.hell.gr>; from keramida@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 02:23:29AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 02:23:29AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > and other nice things that users will start asking once they install > an operating system. I say, Michael, start something... Folks, I've decided to fall back on another cliche: never do today what you can do tomorrow, if doing it tomorrow means you have better odds. I'm going to go after the easy stuff first, then compile a list of "what's left" and see if any patterns jump out. Thanks to everyone for suggestions: I now feel pretty much free to do whatever seems appropriate. :) -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 6:20: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pom.INS.cwru.edu (pom.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166E837B416 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from po.cwru.edu (adsl-64-108-88-128.dsl.clevoh.ameritech.net [64.108.88.128]) by pom.INS.cwru.edu with ESMTP (8.8.8+cwru/CWRU-1.0-smtprelay) id JAA24646; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:19:59 -0500 (EST) (from sjh13@po.cwru.edu for ) Message-ID: <3C4D750E.9060300@po.cwru.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:19:58 -0500 From: Steven Huwig User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20020107 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34163: [PATCH] section 12.7.1.1.4 (spelling mistake) in Handbook This term is quite old, going back at least to the mid-70s in jargon and probably much earlier. The word `automagic' occurred in advertising (for a shirt-ironing gadget) as far back as the late 1940s. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiten Pandya wrote: >The section 12.7.1.1.4 of the handbook, i.e. RAID subsection, has a >incorrect spelling in the title. >Current title: Making it All Automagic (wrong) >New title: Making it all Automatic (correct) >patch supplied below. >regards, > - Hiten > - http://tuxedo.org/jargon/html/entry/automagically.html "Automatically, but in a way that, for some reason (typically because it is too complicated, or too ugly, or perhaps even too trivial), the speaker doesn't feel like explaining to you. See magic. "The C-INTERCAL compiler generates C, then automagically invokes cc(1) to produce an executable." This term is quite old, going back at least to the mid-70s in jargon and probably much earlier. The word `automagic' occurred in advertising (for a shirt-ironing gadget) as far back as the late 1940s." Whether or not this is an appropriate term to use in FreeBSD documentation remains to be seen, but it probably isn't a typo :) -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 6:30: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D7437B402 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MEU2x79536; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201221430.g0MEU2x79536@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: docs/34163: [PATCH] section 12.7.1.1.4 (spelling mistake) in Handbook Reply-To: Hiten Pandya Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34163; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Hiten Pandya To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/34163: [PATCH] section 12.7.1.1.4 (spelling mistake) in Handbook Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:23:14 -0800 (PST) OK, so it isn't typo, my mistake, but I think this term is confusing for people who are not used to the term "automagic", i.e. people like me, and people from the east, who haven't encountered a way to say automatic as automagic. thanks neway, but I strongly fill this patch should go in the article, otherwise, it the PR can be closed. regards, - Hiten - __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 6:59:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB2C37B405 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:59:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 139AA4B65D; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:59:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:59:16 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Jun Kuriyama , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pgpkeys chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20020122145915.GL27267@freebsdmall.com> References: <200201211616.g0LGGFH54977@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020122054120.GT21973@freebsdmall.com> <7melki393n.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 01:15:35PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > It makes it *much* easier for people to add / update their keys. To I haven't actually tested this, but I'm ok with it in concept. I agree that this will be easier for the majority of our developers to update their keys. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 8:54:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821DC37B6EE for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 88B0C4B65D; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:52:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:52:47 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Reminder: 4.5-RELEASE Doc Tree Message-ID: <20020122165247.GX27267@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gqEssfNGWsEa4HfM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --gqEssfNGWsEa4HfM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I'm in favor of most of the changes that have been discussed here over the past few days, but I feel I should interject to remind everyone that the release is imminent and we need to be somewhat conservative with our changes until the RELENG_4_5_0 tags are laid. Please don't completely re-organize the entire doc tree this week. ;) I don't want to discourage content changes at all (like Michaels FAQ -> Handbook migrations), but we should wait on splitting up the Handbook or anything drastic like that. Thanks, - Murray --gqEssfNGWsEa4HfM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8TZjetNcQog5FH30RAlehAKCQdXIUEbfrY/65S1vFNlNuK1uRYACgjbDL VJ6KOVLbTPkkilYzkyEy50w= =iI1/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gqEssfNGWsEa4HfM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 8:59: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D87737B400; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MGwtV62002; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:58:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:58:55 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reminder: 4.5-RELEASE Doc Tree Message-ID: <20020122115855.A61958@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020122165247.GX27267@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020122165247.GX27267@freebsdmall.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 08:52:47AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 08:52:47AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > I'm in favor of most of the changes that have been discussed here > over the past few days, but I feel I should interject to remind > everyone that the release is imminent and we need to be somewhat > conservative with our changes until the RELENG_4_5_0 tags are laid. > Please don't completely re-organize the entire doc tree this week. ;) Oh, crud. > I don't want to discourage content changes at all (like Michaels FAQ > -> Handbook migrations), but we should wait on splitting up the > Handbook or anything drastic like that. Whew. OK. When is the -doc freeze likely to happen? I expect to actually have some time this week to make these changes; the book publisher is the one that is behind at the moment. :) ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 9: 2:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E814D37B402 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MH2SC62072 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:02:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:02:28 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook build broken Message-ID: <20020122120228.B61958@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/home/mwlucas/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pgpkeys/pgpkeys.ent:2:21:E: "D99D08EB" is not a reserved name So, what's our policy on a broken -doc tree? The breakage is fairly easy to fix -- in fact, I've fixed it in my tree. It's a non-doc committer adding his PGP key that blew things apart. -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 9:15:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30BB37B400; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020122171537.WUKG26243.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:15:37 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MHFbE72338; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:15:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201221715.g0MHFbE72338@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Michael Lucas Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reminder: 4.5-RELEASE Doc Tree In-reply-to: <20020122115855.A61958@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020122165247.GX27267@freebsdmall.com> <20020122115855.A61958@blackhelicopters.org> Comments: In-reply-to Michael Lucas message dated "Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:58:55 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:15:37 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 08:52:47AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > > I don't want to discourage content changes at all (like Michaels FAQ > > -> Handbook migrations), but we should wait on splitting up the > > Handbook or anything drastic like that. > > Whew. OK. When is the -doc freeze likely to happen? I expect to > actually have some time this week to make these changes; the book > publisher is the one that is behind at the moment. :) Target date according to the release schedule is 24 January... http://www.freebsd.org/internal/releng45.html Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 9:23:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E024937B41E; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020122172326.PBQQ10199.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:23:26 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MHNQb72490; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:23:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201221723.g0MHNQb72490@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, des@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook build broken In-reply-to: <20020122120228.B61958@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020122120228.B61958@blackhelicopters.org> Comments: In-reply-to Michael Lucas message dated "Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:02:28 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:23:26 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/home/mwlucas/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pgpk > eys/pgpkeys.ent:2:21:E: "D99D08EB" is not a reserved name > > So, what's our policy on a broken -doc tree? The breakage is fairly > easy to fix -- in fact, I've fixed it in my tree. It's a non-doc > committer adding his PGP key that blew things apart. It's ache's key but I don't think he broke the build...the file in question is a part of DES's pgp key reorg. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 9:30:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB8F37B416 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MHU1A49832; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:30:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201221730.g0MHU1A49832@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Cameron Watters Subject: Re: docs/34074: Handbook section 12.3 -- Adding Disks incomplete instructions for using disklabel Reply-To: Cameron Watters Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34074; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Cameron Watters To: Hiten Pandya Cc: , Subject: Re: docs/34074: Handbook section 12.3 -- Adding Disks incomplete instructions for using disklabel Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:24:28 -0800 (PST) HP> Sorry for the bluntness, but, AFAIK, all requests by HP> /stand/sysinstall are normally completed without any HP> errors. Quoting from the handbook: "Ignore any errors from Sysinstall that it could not mount the new partition." This, in fact, is exactly what happens. Further, when I actually ran disklablel -W and THEN ran sysinstall, it didn't give me this error message. HP> The man page, does mention about the -W option, and HP> its actions, but I've never found the need to apply HP> this parameter to disklabel(8). I wouldn't have submitted this unless I hadn't tried for an hour to get the Handbook's instructions to work correctly. HP> Does this disklabel(8) issue arise only in certain HP> conditions? I should clarify that this only happens when using sysinstall on a system that has already been setup once. As the handbook directs, I was using it to add additional disks to an existing installation of FreeBSD. However, that is exactly the activity this portion of the handbook is trying to cover. --cameron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 9:32:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D697037B404; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MHWAd62484; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:32:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:32:10 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, des@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook build broken Message-ID: <20020122123210.A62441@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020122120228.B61958@blackhelicopters.org> <200201221723.g0MHNQb72490@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201221723.g0MHNQb72490@bmah.dyndns.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 09:23:26AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 09:23:26AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/home/mwlucas/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pgpk > > eys/pgpkeys.ent:2:21:E: "D99D08EB" is not a reserved name > > > > So, what's our policy on a broken -doc tree? The breakage is fairly > > easy to fix -- in fact, I've fixed it in my tree. It's a non-doc > > committer adding his PGP key that blew things apart. > > It's ache's key but I don't think he broke the build...the file in > question is a part of DES's pgp key reorg. Yep. He just copied ache's line twice, and goofed once. So, who gets to go tell DES to clean up his mess? Or shall we just fix it for him? What's our standard over in -doc? I presume we don't follow the -src convention of backing out other people's changes with an incandescent commit message, followed by three weeks of incindiary email cascading back and forth... :) ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 11:52:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C4937B405; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id DAA44532C; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:52:27 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Michael Lucas Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook build broken References: <20020122120228.B61958@blackhelicopters.org> <200201221723.g0MHNQb72490@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020122123210.A62441@blackhelicopters.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 22 Jan 2002 20:52:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20020122123210.A62441@blackhelicopters.org> Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas writes: > Yep. He just copied ache's line twice, and goofed once. No, actually the line got added by an earlier version of addkey.sh that had a quoting bug (it passed parameters to gpg as a single parameter rather than splitting them). I've removed it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 12: 3:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FD237B402; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MK3Qr63674; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:03:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:03:26 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook build broken Message-ID: <20020122150326.A63652@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020122120228.B61958@blackhelicopters.org> <200201221723.g0MHNQb72490@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020122123210.A62441@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from des@ofug.org on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 08:52:27PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 08:52:27PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Michael Lucas writes: > > Yep. He just copied ache's line twice, and goofed once. > > No, actually the line got added by an earlier version of addkey.sh > that had a quoting bug (it passed parameters to gpg as a single > parameter rather than splitting them). I've removed it. Thanks! And thanks for straightening up that PGP mess, it makes things much nicer. Actually, this was the first time I got to track down a build breakage... kind of fun. Don't break it again just to make me happy, though. :) -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 14:30:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBE037B416 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MMU1k16191; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melchior.enst.fr [137.194.161.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD9637B402 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (melusine.enst.fr [137.194.160.34]) by melchior.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8EC8214 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:21:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B525360; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:21:05 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20020122222105.B525360@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:21:05 +0100 (CET) From: Thomas Quinot Reply-To: Thomas Quinot To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/34184: Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" syntax Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34184 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" syntax >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 22 14:30:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Thomas Quinot >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-RC i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org 4.5-RC FreeBSD 4.5-RC #7: Tue Jan 15 22:29:15 CET 2002 thomas@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MELUSINE i386 >Description: sysctl.c rev. 1.40 introduced the possibility of changing dev_t variables by specifying the name of a special file as the value. Since I was the one guilty of implementing that, I figured I should punish myself by documenting it. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: sysctl.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/sysctl/sysctl.8,v retrieving revision 1.43 diff -u -r1.43 sysctl.8 --- sysctl.8 16 Jan 2002 06:55:29 -0000 1.43 +++ sysctl.8 22 Jan 2002 22:14:20 -0000 @@ -120,7 +120,8 @@ .Pp The information available from .Nm -consists of integers, strings, and opaques. +consists of integers, strings, devices (dev_t), +and opaque types. .Nm Sysctl only knows about a couple of opaque types, and will resort to hexdumps for the rest. @@ -135,7 +136,17 @@ .Xr sysctl 3 . .Pp The changeable column indicates whether a process with appropriate -privilege can change the value. +privilege can change the value. String, integer, and devices +values can be set using +.Xr sysctl 8 . +For device values, +.Ar value +can be specified as a character special file name. Special +values +.Ar off +and +.Ar none +denote ``no device''. .Bl -column security.bsd.unprivileged_read_msgbuf integerxxx .It Sy "Name Type Changeable .It "kern.ostype string no @@ -164,6 +175,7 @@ .It "kern.osreldate string no .It "kern.bootfile string yes .It "kern.corefile string yes +.It "kern.dumpdev dev_t yes .It "kern.logsigexit integer yes .It "security.bsd.suser_enabled integer yes .It "security.bsd.see_other_uids integer yes @@ -213,6 +225,14 @@ per uid to 1000, one would use the following request: .Pp .Dl "sysctl kern.maxprocperuid=1000" +.Pp +The device used for crash dumps can be specified using: +.Pp +.Dl "sysctl kern.dumpdev=/dev/somedev +.Pp +which is strictly equivalent to +.Pp +.Dl "dumpon /dev/somedev .Pp Information about the system clock rate may be obtained with: .Pp >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 18:27:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0605C37B400 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N2Kll47294; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 02:20:47 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 02:20:47 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook build broken Message-ID: <20020123022047.S18715@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020122120228.B61958@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="L2YZAWjVjAQ1Un1Q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020122120228.B61958@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 12:02:28PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --L2YZAWjVjAQ1Un1Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 12:02:28PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/home/mwlucas/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/= pgpkeys/pgpkeys.ent:2:21:E: "D99D08EB" is not a reserved name >=20 > So, what's our policy on a broken -doc tree? =20 If I see it in time I just go in and fix it, with a note to committers@ as necessary, explaining how the problem could have been avoided. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --L2YZAWjVjAQ1Un1Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxOHf4ACgkQk6gHZCw343U+bwCcCfuPjGkD0mjhTMXcluPLUEra iOAAnivjr/Nb5YUiw/lCnDiMAhbgU6OS =D1U7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --L2YZAWjVjAQ1Un1Q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 18:27:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0E437B402; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:27:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N2MaP47306; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 02:22:36 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 02:22:36 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Michael Lucas Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reminder: 4.5-RELEASE Doc Tree Message-ID: <20020123022236.T18715@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020122165247.GX27267@freebsdmall.com> <20020122115855.A61958@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3a/Z8KDuKqDOIvAo" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020122115855.A61958@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:58:55AM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --3a/Z8KDuKqDOIvAo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:58:55AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > I don't want to discourage content changes at all (like Michaels FAQ > > -> Handbook migrations), but we should wait on splitting up the > > Handbook or anything drastic like that. >=20 > Whew. OK. When is the -doc freeze likely to happen? =20 Couple of days (probably the 24th). I don't actually freeze the tree. I do a local checkout and make sure it builds and looks OK. Then I lay down the tag. I'm quite happy to slide the tag forward on individual files to incorporate late-breaking improvements. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --3a/Z8KDuKqDOIvAo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxOHmsACgkQk6gHZCw343WEmgCfXdkVe0Nx3Y8byxC7vB/PBxNH is4An1nJtQ4pcM7yTgmI3FYTjb3pGnNw =BQVY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3a/Z8KDuKqDOIvAo-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 20:41:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F99837B400; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:41:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N4c5O08956; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:38:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:38:05 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201230438.g0N4c5O08956@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34161: e-mail change Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: e-mail change State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 22 20:37:03 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Email address updated in rev. 1.82 of doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/article.sgml http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34161 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 20:48:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDD937B400 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (ip206102033149.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.33.149]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g0N4g5U19156 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:42:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200201230442.g0N4g5U19156@mail.ezwv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: eps images not building in online handbook Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:49:19 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I noticed that images which use eps sources are not building to their png output in the online handbook. Some example places (probably more): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/isdn.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly) that it would be broken in the 4.5-RELEASE if not fixed. They build on my local system but I've not updated my docproj since around 4.4-RELEASE. It may be somthing subtle in recent changes to the build process which is beyond my ability to fix at this point. Perhaps someone can jump in and take a look at this to see if it can be fixed before release time. Thanks, Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 21: 3: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9847337B405 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020123050255.UTAV26243.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:02:55 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N52tV78982; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:02:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201230502.g0N52tV78982@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Randy Pratt Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: eps images not building in online handbook In-reply-to: <200201230442.g0N4g5U19156@mail.ezwv.com> References: <200201230442.g0N4g5U19156@mail.ezwv.com> Comments: In-reply-to Randy Pratt message dated "Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:49:19 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:02:55 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Randy Pratt wrote: > I noticed that images which use eps sources are not building to their png > output in the online handbook. > > Some example places (probably more): > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/isdn.html > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html > > I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly) that it would be broken in the 4.5-RELEASE if > not fixed. Hi Randy-- We seem to have had this problem on the Web site for some time. I think (but can't prove) that this is somehow related to the environment on freefall used to build the Web site. But I haven't had the time to track this down. Images seem to show up fine on locally-built copies of the Web site. I also note that Murray Stokely's release engineering article (any others?) don't seem to be linkable from the main docs page: http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html This is also troubling. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 21:31:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB4237B405; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:31:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (zbay5-4.fyi.net [206.80.158.4]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0N5WID78784; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:32:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C4E4BB2.40107@pittgoth.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:35:46 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: eps images not building in online handbook References: <200201230442.g0N4g5U19156@mail.ezwv.com> <200201230502.g0N52tV78982@bmah.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bruce A. Mah wrote: >If memory serves me right, Randy Pratt wrote: > >>I noticed that images which use eps sources are not building to their png >>output in the online handbook. >> >>Some example places (probably more): >> >>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/isdn.html >>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html >> >>I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly) that it would be broken in the 4.5-RELEASE if >>not fixed. >> > >Hi Randy-- > >We seem to have had this problem on the Web site for some time. I >think (but can't prove) that this is somehow related to the environment >on freefall used to build the Web site. But I haven't had the time to >track this down. Images seem to show up fine on locally-built copies >of the Web site. > >I also note that Murray Stokely's release engineering article (any >others?) don't seem to be linkable from the main docs page: > >http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html > >This is also troubling. > >Bruce. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > None of the other books or articles seem to be broken, link-to wise anyways. I actually sat down and tried them :) --Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 21:32:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9245B37B400 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a014.otenet.gr [212.205.215.14]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g0N5WO722531 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:32:24 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N5WN714504 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:32:23 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:32:22 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: freefall's doc/ build and png images (continued) Message-ID: <20020123053222.GA14466@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I build a test copy of the Handbook at freefall tonight. You can find it at: http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/0/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook Pay special attention to the PNG images of: http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/0/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/isdn.html They seem to work, when I build the Handbook as shown below: % mkdir ~/tmp % cd ~/tmp % umask 002 % export CVSUMASK=002 % cvs -q co doc/README doc/Makefile doc/share doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 % cd doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook % make % make DOCDIR=$HOME/public_html/0 install I think we can safely remove the .png images that do not display correctly and let the next automatic doc/ build take care of this, no? -- Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org} FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 21:44:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15EC37B400; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:44:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020123054415.RELP3578.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:44:15 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N5iFB79359; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:44:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201230544.g0N5iFB79359@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freefall's doc/ build and png images (continued) In-reply-to: <20020123053222.GA14466@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020123053222.GA14466@hades.hell.gr> Comments: In-reply-to Giorgos Keramidas message dated "Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:32:22 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:44:15 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > I build a test copy of the Handbook at freefall tonight. > You can find it at: > http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/0/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook > > Pay special attention to the PNG images of: > http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/0/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/isdn.htm > l OK. So they built right for you...this is good. > They seem to work, when I build the Handbook as shown below: > > % mkdir ~/tmp > % cd ~/tmp > % umask 002 > % export CVSUMASK=002 > % cvs -q co doc/README doc/Makefile doc/share doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 > % cd doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook > % make > % make DOCDIR=$HOME/public_html/0 install > > I think we can safely remove the .png images that do not display > correctly and let the next automatic doc/ build take care of this, no? OK, I just looked on freefall, and the corresponding .png images in the "real" Web site are files with 0 length. This is most interesting. I still wonder what happened to murray's article. Actually, it might be best to blow away the the entire Web site content directory and reinstall everything to clear out any old cruft that might be there. I seem to recall some RELNOTESng junk that never got cleared out. nik, wosch, anybody? Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 21:46: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D6F37B402; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:45:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 2BBA74B65D; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:45:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:45:46 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Randy Pratt , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: eps images not building in online handbook Message-ID: <20020123054546.GI27267@freebsdmall.com> References: <200201230442.g0N4g5U19156@mail.ezwv.com> <200201230502.g0N52tV78982@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200201230502.g0N52tV78982@bmah.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 09:02:55PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I also note that Murray Stokely's release engineering article (any > others?) don't seem to be linkable from the main docs page: I'm waiting for the admins to update ghostscript on freefall. Once that is done the article will build properly and I can link it to the build again. All of this because people complained that I used TeX to generate my figure. The figure is now done in PIC (which I admit is much nicer) but there is a bug in in the ps2epsi program in many versions of ghostscript. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 21:52: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC3837B417; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (zbay5-4.fyi.net [206.80.158.4]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0N5qGD78822; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:52:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C4E5060.5050508@pittgoth.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:55:44 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: freefall's doc/ build and png images (continued) References: <20020123053222.GA14466@hades.hell.gr> <200201230544.g0N5iFB79359@bmah.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bruce A. Mah wrote: >If memory serves me right, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>I build a test copy of the Handbook at freefall tonight. >>You can find it at: >>http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/0/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook >> >>Pay special attention to the PNG images of: >>http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/0/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/isdn.htm >>l >> > >OK. So they built right for you...this is good. > >>They seem to work, when I build the Handbook as shown below: >> >> % mkdir ~/tmp >> % cd ~/tmp >> % umask 002 >> % export CVSUMASK=002 >> % cvs -q co doc/README doc/Makefile doc/share doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 >> % cd doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook >> % make >> % make DOCDIR=$HOME/public_html/0 install >> >>I think we can safely remove the .png images that do not display >>correctly and let the next automatic doc/ build take care of this, no? >> > >OK, I just looked on freefall, and the corresponding .png images in the >"real" Web site are files with 0 length. This is most interesting. > >I still wonder what happened to murray's article. > >Actually, it might be best to blow away the the entire Web site content >directory and reinstall everything to clear out any old cruft that >might be there. I seem to recall some RELNOTESng junk that never got >cleared out. nik, wosch, anybody? > >Bruce. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > 1 drwxrwxr-x 2 www www 512 Jan 22 17:40 . 6 drwxrwxr-x 5 www www 5632 Jan 22 17:40 .. 0 -r--r--r-- 1 www www 0 Jan 22 17:40 isdn-bus.png 0 -r--r--r-- 1 www www 0 Jan 22 17:40 isdn-twisted-pair.png 0 -r--r--r-- 1 www www 0 Jan 22 17:40 natd.png = something isn't right. Couldn't we also just replace the appropriate images with fresh ones, I personally do not think that its a build problem because it builds fine for everyone else, even on the system. --Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 22:14: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBE237B402; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 22:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020123061358.WSSL26243.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:13:58 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N6DwH79666; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 22:13:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201230613.g0N6DwH79666@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Murray Stokely Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Randy Pratt , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: eps images not building in online handbook In-reply-to: <20020123054546.GI27267@freebsdmall.com> References: <200201230442.g0N4g5U19156@mail.ezwv.com> <200201230502.g0N52tV78982@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020123054546.GI27267@freebsdmall.com> Comments: In-reply-to Murray Stokely message dated "Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:45:46 -0800." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 22:13:58 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 09:02:55PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > I also note that Murray Stokely's release engineering article (any > > others?) don't seem to be linkable from the main docs page: > > I'm waiting for the admins to update ghostscript on freefall. Once > that is done the article will build properly and I can link it to the > build again. All of this because people complained that I used TeX to > generate my figure. I wasn't one of those people, for the record. :-) > The figure is now done in PIC (which I admit is > much nicer) but there is a bug in in the ps2epsi program in many > versions of ghostscript. Is this a bug where sed keeps barfing and causes gs to coredump? I did the hack below to get around this, because I was too lazy to see if a more recent version of the port fixes this error. Apparently I'm running ghostscript-gnu-6.52. Bruce. --- /usr/local/bin/ps2epsi Mon Nov 19 16:03:43 2001 +++ /usr/users/bmah/bin/ps2epsi Mon Jan 21 10:09:17 2002 @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ BEGINEPS cat ${infile} | -sed -e '/^%%BeginPreview:/,/^%%EndPreview[^!-~]*$/d' -e '/^%!PS-Adobe/d'\ +sed -e '/^%%BeginPreview:/,/^%%EndPreview[^!-~]*$/d' -e '/^%!PS-Adobe/d' \ -e '/^%%[A-Za-z][A-Za-z]*[^!-~]*$/d' -e '/^%%[A-Za-z][A-Za-z]*: /d' cat << ENDEPS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 23: 1:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EDF37B416; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:01:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N6ulE60416; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 22:56:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 22:56:47 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201230656.g0N6ulE60416@freefall.freebsd.org> To: darklogik@pittgoth.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/33259: docproj primer should document element-within-element inconsistancy Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: docproj primer should document element-within-element inconsistancy State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 22 22:51:41 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: A lot of things can go wrong when using docbook, but the docbook guide [ http://docbook.org/tdg/en/ ] is the best place for them to be documented :) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33259 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 22 23:11:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997BC37B400; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N78RG65713; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:08:27 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201230708.g0N78RG65713@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the website Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the website State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 22 23:06:39 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Since there doesn't seem to be an agreement if the front page is `wrong' or should be changed to something better, I'll leave this suspended. If anyone has a better idea, that we can all agree with, you're welcome to help with this. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32578 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 0:13:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web20709.mail.yahoo.com (web20709.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5599637B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:13:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020123081342.79187.qmail@web20709.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.229.241.232] by web20709.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:13:42 PST Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:13:42 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Johnson Subject: intro(3) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've finished round one on intro(3). (As my boss is fond of saying, "It's red-pen time!") I put a copy up at: http://www.geocities.com/more_synthehol_please/intro.3.gz I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. I don't know much about the -mdoc macros, or why xman keeps coring on the new version. Thanks! Chris Johnson more_synthehol_please@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 0:31:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4A537B41A; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:31:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N8RNh84596; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:27:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:27:23 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201230827.g0N8RNh84596@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/34037: [PATCH] Updating handbook-mirrors chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Updating handbook-mirrors chapter Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jan 23 00:26:27 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: I've partially committed the changes from this. Working with Tom on the rest. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 0:46: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D680B37B42F for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a163.otenet.gr [212.205.215.163]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g0N8jiA21284; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:45:45 +0200 (EET) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N8jhW16286; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:45:43 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:45:42 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Christopher Johnson Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: intro(3) Message-ID: <20020123084542.GA16188@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020123081342.79187.qmail@web20709.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020123081342.79187.qmail@web20709.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-01-23 00:13:42, Christopher Johnson wrote: > I've finished round one on intro(3). (As my boss is > fond of saying, "It's red-pen time!") Err, how is this different from the existing intro.3 ? Is it a rewrite from scratch? -- Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org} FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 1:30: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F77A37B405 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 01:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N9U2c97794; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 01:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 01:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201230930.g0N9U2c97794@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ceri Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the website Reply-To: Ceri Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32578; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri To: keramida@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32578: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the website Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:20:58 +0000 On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:08:27PM -0800, keramida@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: A _really_ petty change to the front page of the website > > State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32578 You're more than welcome to close it if you prefer. Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 2: 0:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9F637B421 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 02:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NA01I02500; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 02:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCF537B416 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 01:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0N9sO901653; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 01:54:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201230954.g0N9sO901653@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 01:54:24 -0800 (PST) From: Jamel Brown To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/34201: Modem Config Problems Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34201 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Modem Config Problems >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: wish >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 23 02:00:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jamel Brown >Release: 4.4 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: I have recompiled my kernel about 15 times so far. When the system starts it see's my modem on sio0 and then decides to move it to sio4 after recompiling the modem. It does another detect to see where the modem is at. It then see's it on sio0 but this time because I configured it to work on sio4 it decides to move the modem to sio5 and so on and so forth. I have a ActionTec 56k fax pci modem. I need to know whether or not there is a flag page to detail every flag. I have looked at /usr/src/sys/isa/sio.c and seen that they use the flag 0x14 for this modem. Is there something here that I am not checking. Also I Have used the flag 0x20000, is this a good choice for this modem. Bottom line is I just need help to figure this one out. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 2:31:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe17.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DDF37B417 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 02:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 02:31:24 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [148.233.159.25] From: "Ing. Basilio Delgado" To: Subject: donde puedo bajar el FreeBSD 4.1? 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BD281B.EC665780-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 3:40:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E966437B402 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 03:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NBe2C26119; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 03:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 03:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201231140.g0NBe2C26119@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Peter Pentchev Subject: Re: docs/34184: Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" syntax Reply-To: Peter Pentchev Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34184; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Peter Pentchev To: Thomas Quinot Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34184: Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" syntax Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:34:59 +0200 On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:21:05PM +0100, Thomas Quinot wrote: > > >Number: 34184 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" syntax > >Originator: Thomas Quinot > >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-RC i386 > >Organization: > > >Description: > sysctl.c rev. 1.40 introduced the possibility of changing > dev_t variables by specifying the name of a special file as > the value. Since I was the one guilty of implementing that, > I figured I should punish myself by documenting it. Nice :) Just a couple of comments.. > >Fix: > > @@ -135,7 +136,17 @@ > .Xr sysctl 3 . > .Pp > The changeable column indicates whether a process with appropriate > -privilege can change the value. > +privilege can change the value. String, integer, and devices > +values can be set using > +.Xr sysctl 8 . I think new sentences should start on a new line in mdoc manual pages. Also, since this *is* the sysctl(8) manual page, it might be better to refer to the sysctl command by simply using .Nm here. > +For device values, > +.Ar value > +can be specified as a character special file name. Special New sentence on a new line, as above. > +values > +.Ar off > +and > +.Ar none > +denote ``no device''. .Dq no device . Other than that, looks fine to me. G'luck, Peter -- This sentence contradicts itself - or rather - well, no, actually it doesn't! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 3:51: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (freebsddiary.org.ua [213.186.199.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5613D37B405 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 03:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from never@localhost) by mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.4) id g0NBoiA23796 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:50:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never) Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by mile.nevermind.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0NBkPJ23712 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:46:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from cjc@earthlink.net) Received: from dialup-209.245.141.241.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.141.241] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16TLr7-0003WZ-00 for never@nevermind.kiev.ua; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 03:46:19 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0NBjLM85634 for never@nevermind.kiev.ua; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 03:45:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 03:45:17 -0800 From: "Crist J . Clark" To: Nevermind Subject: Re: proposal for addition to mount_msdos.8 Message-ID: <20020123034517.G83184@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <20020123101809.GA22271@nevermind.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020123101809.GA22271@nevermind.kiev.ua>; from never@nevermind.kiev.ua on Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 12:18:09PM +0200 X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 12:18:09PM +0200, Nevermind wrote: > Maybe we should add scrap from > http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/installation/i386/index.html > ? > > > Can I mount my DOS extended partitions? > > Yes. DOS extended partitions are mapped in at the end of the other > ``slices'' in FreeBSD, e.g. your D: drive might be /dev/da0s5, your E: > drive /dev/da0s6, and so on. This example assumes, of course, that your > extended partition is on SCSI drive 0. For IDE drives, substitute ad for > da appropriately. You otherwise mount extended partitions exactly like > you would mount any other DOS drive, e.g.: > > # mount -t msdos /dev/da0s5 /dos_d > Try the freebsd-doc@freebsd.org list for this type of discussion. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 4:29:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90AC37B416 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 04:29:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0NCT7C46268; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 04:29:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 04:29:06 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Hiten Pandya , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32008 Message-ID: <20020123042906.G45791@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <200112281300.fBSD04k44561@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020106180746.GC23229@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020106180746.GC23229@hades.hell.gr>; from charon@labs.gr on Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 08:07:46PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 08:07:46PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2001-12-28 05:00:04, Hiten Pandya wrote: > > The following reply was made to PR docs/32008; it has been noted by GNATS. > > > > From: Hiten Pandya > > To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, jhein@timing.com > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: docs/32008 > > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 12:56:54 +0000 > > > > This PR can now be closed without any problems as the issue can be > > resolved by using the [PATCH] which I supplied in my last follow-up. > > > > thanks, > > regards, > > Uhm, I'm not sure if commits to this part of the tree that the diff > touches are OK. This patch can be committed to dhclient-script.8 w/o problems. Please commit it if you have a chance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 5: 3:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web10004.mail.yahoo.com (web10004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D81037B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:03:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020123130347.87045.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.148.72.93] by web10004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:03:47 PST Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:03:47 -0800 (PST) From: Kenneth Stailey Subject: ARP documentation? To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Between route(4) and arp(4) manual pages is it really possible to find out how to write a C program that adds an ARP table entry? route(4) offers some general advice: Messages are formed by a header followed by a small number of sockaddrs [...] all other messages use the rt_msghdr header. etc. So you know what header to use and that there's supposed to be some sockaddrs after it. The EEXIST, ESRCH and ENOBUFS are documented but it never bothers to mention EINVAL which is what you get back if you don't fill out the parameters correctly in the undocumented way. It doesn't really talk about what paramters to use for ARP at all. The string "arp" does not occur in this man page ever. The arp(4) page is a bigger joke. It tells you to use arp(8). So is the correct way to add an ARP table entry from a C program to use system("/usr/sbin/arp -blah")? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 5:24:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D6A37B417 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:24:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g0NDNuB84669; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:23:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:23:56 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Kenneth Stailey Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARP documentation? Message-ID: <20020123152356.G66702@sunbay.com> References: <20020123130347.87045.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020123130347.87045.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 05:03:47AM -0800, Kenneth Stailey wrote: > Between route(4) and arp(4) manual pages is it really possible to find out how > to write a C program that adds an ARP table entry? > > route(4) offers some general advice: > > Messages are formed by a header followed by a small number of sockaddrs > > [...] > > all other messages use the rt_msghdr header. > > etc. So you know what header to use and that there's supposed to be some > sockaddrs after it. The EEXIST, ESRCH and ENOBUFS are documented but it never > bothers to mention EINVAL which is what you get back if you don't fill out the > parameters correctly in the undocumented way. > > It doesn't really talk about what paramters to use for ARP at all. The string > "arp" does not occur in this man page ever. > > The arp(4) page is a bigger joke. It tells you to use arp(8). So is the > correct way to add an ARP table entry from a C program to use > system("/usr/sbin/arp -blah")? > ARP entries are stored in the routing table with RTF_LLINFO flag set. So you can easily manipulate with the ARP entries through the route(8) command (having supplied the necessary flags) which is much more powerful than arp(8). With recent route(8) code, you can create both published types of ARP entries, and you can tell your kernel to resolve a single IP address through an ARP on a particular interface, and you can also tell your kernel to resolve through an ARP an arbitrary IP network, which your host is NOT required to be a member of, as it is with arp(8). For a good practical example of manipulating ARP programmatically, please look at the route(8) and arp(8) code, and buy a Steven's "TCP/IP Illustrated Vol. 2" book which documents this all in detail (ISBN 0-201-63354-X, costs about $60 USD). Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 6: 1:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FF937B405; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NDwb379755; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:58:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 05:58:37 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201231358.g0NDwb379755@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jhein@timing.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/32008: wrong path for dhclient.conf in dhclient-script(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: wrong path for dhclient.conf in dhclient-script(8) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Wed Jan 23 05:57:14 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Changes made in CURRENT. Awaiting release-engineer approval for MFC. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jan 23 05:57:14 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll MFC this when release-engineer(s) say 'aye'. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32008 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 6:50:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B284437B404 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NEo1738521; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00A537B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NEkPG24270; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:46:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201231446.g0NEkPG24270@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:46:25 -0800 (PST) From: Marian Cerny To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/34207: [PATCH] wrong path to lsof in handbook section 4.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34207 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] wrong path to lsof in handbook section 4.5 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 23 06:50:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Marian Cerny >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE >Organization: private >Environment: FreeBSD ivetka 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 18 11:57:08 PDT 2001 murray@builder.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: In handbook, section 4.5 - Using the Ports Collection: When talking about installing (4.5.2, 4.5.2.1), lsof is used as an example. Four times it is mentioned with the correct path /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof. Later in section 4.5.3 - Removing Installed Ports, lsof is used again, but now with incorrect path /usr/ports/irc/lsof. >How-To-Repeat: Have a look at the handbook, section 4.5. >Fix: Change /usr/ports/irc/lsof to /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof. This patch should do it: *** chapter.sgml.orig Wed Jan 23 15:12:13 2002 --- chapter.sgml Wed Jan 23 15:46:07 2002 *************** *** 856,867 **** lsof for those of you not paying attention). As with installing ports, the first thing you must do is change to the port directory, ! /usr/ports/irc/lsof. After you change directories, you are ready to uninstall lsof. This is done with the make deinstall command: ! &prompt.root; cd /usr/ports/irc/lsof &prompt.root; make deinstall ===> Deinstalling for lsof-4.57 --- 856,867 ---- lsof for those of you not paying attention). As with installing ports, the first thing you must do is change to the port directory, ! /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof. After you change directories, you are ready to uninstall lsof. This is done with the make deinstall command: ! &prompt.root; cd /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof &prompt.root; make deinstall ===> Deinstalling for lsof-4.57 *************** *** 869,875 **** lsof from your system. If you would like to reinstall it, you can do so by running make reinstall from the ! /usr/ports/irc/lsof directory. The make deinstall and make reinstall sequence does not work once you have run --- 869,875 ---- lsof from your system. If you would like to reinstall it, you can do so by running make reinstall from the ! /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof directory. The make deinstall and make reinstall sequence does not work once you have run >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 7:30:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A85937B41B for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NFU1E49290; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABD737B448 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:29:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NFTHn48988; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:29:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201231529.g0NFTHn48988@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:29:17 -0800 (PST) From: Marian Cerny To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/34209: more difficult way of searching for a port's path in handbook section 4.5.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34209 >Category: docs >Synopsis: more difficult way of searching for a port's path in handbook section 4.5.2 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 23 07:30:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Marian Cerny >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE >Organization: private >Environment: FreeBSD ivetka 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 18 11:57:08 PDT 2001 murray@builder.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: In handbook, section 4.5.2 - 4.5.2 Installing Ports: > Yet another way of finding a particular port is by using the ports > collection's built-in search mechanism. To use the search feature, you > will need to be in the /usr/ports directory. Once in that directory, > run make search key=program-name where ``program-name'' is the name of ^^^ > the program you want to find. For example, if you were looking for > lsof: > # cd /usr/ports > # make search key=lsof ^^^ > Port: lsof-4.56.4 > Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof > Info: Lists information about open files (similar to fstat(1)) > Maint: obrien@FreeBSD.org > Index: sysutils > B-deps: > R-deps: > The part of the output you want to pay particular attention to is the > ``Path:'' line, since that tells you where to find it. The other > information provided is not needed in order to install the port > directly, so it will not be covered here. This works fine, but "make search key=lsof" finds 7 matching ports on my machine and some of them do not even include the string "lsof" in the information shown (because it also looks into port description, etc.). For example "Port: xwpe-1.5.22a" is listed, because of the line "WWW: http://www.identicalsoftware.com/xwpe/" in pkg-descr. ^^^^ Better way (IMHO) is to do "make search name=lsof". This gives ^^^^ only one match. >How-To-Repeat: Have a look at the handbook, section 4.5.2. >Fix: I know "search key=" is important as well, so I think both should have been noticed in the text explaining the difference between "search name=" and "search key=". >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 7:40:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9BD37B417 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NFe3T51474; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201231540.g0NFe3T51474@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Thomas Quinot Subject: Re: docs/34184: Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" syntax Reply-To: Thomas Quinot Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34184; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Thomas Quinot To: Peter Pentchev Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34184: Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" syntax Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:31:43 +0100 Peter, First of all thanks for the feedback on this PR! Le 2002-01-23, Peter Pentchev écrivait : > I think new sentences should start on a new line in mdoc manual pages. OK, I was not aware of that rule. > Also, since this *is* the sysctl(8) manual page, it might be better > to refer to the sysctl command by simply using .Nm here. Absolutely right. > .Dq no device . That's nroff wizardry to me ;) > Other than that, looks fine to me. OK, here is an updated patch: Index: sysctl.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/sysctl/sysctl.8,v retrieving revision 1.43 diff -u -r1.43 sysctl.8 --- sysctl.8 16 Jan 2002 06:55:29 -0000 1.43 +++ sysctl.8 23 Jan 2002 15:30:30 -0000 @@ -120,7 +120,8 @@ .Pp The information available from .Nm -consists of integers, strings, and opaques. +consists of integers, strings, devices (dev_t), +and opaque types. .Nm Sysctl only knows about a couple of opaque types, and will resort to hexdumps for the rest. @@ -136,6 +137,18 @@ .Pp The changeable column indicates whether a process with appropriate privilege can change the value. +String, integer, and devices values can be set using +.Nm sysctl . +.Pp +For device values, +.Ar value +can be specified as a character special file name. +Special values +.Ar off +and +.Ar none +denote +.Dq no device . .Bl -column security.bsd.unprivileged_read_msgbuf integerxxx .It Sy "Name Type Changeable .It "kern.ostype string no @@ -164,6 +177,7 @@ .It "kern.osreldate string no .It "kern.bootfile string yes .It "kern.corefile string yes +.It "kern.dumpdev dev_t yes .It "kern.logsigexit integer yes .It "security.bsd.suser_enabled integer yes .It "security.bsd.see_other_uids integer yes @@ -213,6 +227,14 @@ per uid to 1000, one would use the following request: .Pp .Dl "sysctl kern.maxprocperuid=1000" +.Pp +The device used for crash dumps can be specified using: +.Pp +.Dl "sysctl kern.dumpdev=/dev/somedev +.Pp +which is strictly equivalent to +.Pp +.Dl "dumpon /dev/somedev .Pp Information about the system clock rate may be obtained with: .Pp -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 7:50:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE6537B405 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NFo2g53513; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 07:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201231550.g0NFo2g53513@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Peter Pentchev Subject: Re: docs/34184: Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" syntax Reply-To: Peter Pentchev Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34184; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Peter Pentchev To: Thomas Quinot Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34184: Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" syntax Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:41:04 +0200 On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 04:31:43PM +0100, Thomas Quinot wrote: [snip] > > .Dq no device . > > That's nroff wizardry to me ;) Not quite nroff, simply mdoc(7) :) > > Other than that, looks fine to me. > > OK, here is an updated patch: This one looks fine, at least to me. G'luck, Peter -- The rest of this sentence is written in Thailand, on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 9: 1:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from assaris.sics.se (gw.permabit.com [4.36.55.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D0C37B405; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from assar@localhost) by assaris.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17570; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 18:01:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from assar) From: assar@FreeBSD.org To: Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33645: k5list(1) contains many incorrect "klist" entries. References: <200201161505.g0GF5Hp52703@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: 23 Jan 2002 18:01:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: 's message of "Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:05:17 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: <5l665t80hp.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070098 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.98) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org writes: > Assar, could you please fix this and commit the fix on the vendor > and RELENG_4 branches (if re@ approves). My proposed patch for this is included below. I would rather not commit this on the vendor branch since the man pages is never going to look like this from the vendor (the programs are called kfoo and k5foo from the vendor). I don't know if it's too late for RELENG_4, but we should ask re@ that when this has been committed to current. (We'll change the names of the programs so they will also become kfoo instead of k5foo, but I agree that man-pages should be named in sync with the programs they document). /assar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 9:12:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from assaris.sics.se (gw.permabit.com [4.36.55.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDDC37B400; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:11:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from assar@localhost) by assaris.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17581; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 18:11:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from assar) From: assar@FreeBSD.org To: Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33645: k5list(1) contains many incorrect "klist" entries. References: <200201161505.g0GF5Hp52703@freefall.freebsd.org> <5l665t80hp.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Date: 23 Jan 2002 18:11:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: assar@FreeBSD.org's message of "23 Jan 2002 18:01:54 +0100" Message-ID: <5l1ygh801k.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070098 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.98) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=-=-= I wrote: > writes: > > Assar, could you please fix this and commit the fix on the vendor > > and RELENG_4 branches (if re@ approves). > > My proposed patch for this is included below. Which I dropped, so here it is. /assar --=-=-= Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=hdman.diff Index: kerberos5/libexec/k5admind/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/kerberos5/libexec/k5admind/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -w -r1.6 Makefile --- kerberos5/libexec/k5admind/Makefile 13 Feb 2001 16:56:57 -0000 1.6 +++ kerberos5/libexec/k5admind/Makefile 23 Jan 2002 16:51:47 -0000 @@ -30,11 +30,14 @@ DPADD= ${LIBKRB5} ${LIBKAFS5} ${LIBROKEN} ${_krb4deps} \ ${LIBKADM5CLNT} ${LIBKADM5SRV} ${LIBHDB} \ ${LIBASN1} ${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBMD} ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBCOM_ERR} -NOMAN= yes +MAN= k5admind.8 .include .PATH: ${KRB5DIR}/kadmin + +k5admind.8: kadmind.8 + ln -sf ${.OODATE} ${.TARGET} kadm5/private.h: kadm5 cp ${KRB5DIR}/lib/kadm5/private.h ${.TARGET} Index: kerberos5/libexec/k5passwdd/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/kerberos5/libexec/k5passwdd/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -w -r1.7 Makefile --- kerberos5/libexec/k5passwdd/Makefile 27 Mar 2001 14:07:29 -0000 1.7 +++ kerberos5/libexec/k5passwdd/Makefile 23 Jan 2002 16:51:47 -0000 @@ -25,11 +25,14 @@ -L${ASN1OBJDIR} -lasn1 -lcrypto -lmd -lcrypt -lcom_err DPADD= ${LIBKRB5} ${LIBROKEN} ${_krb4deps} \ ${LIBASN1} ${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBMD} ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBCOM_ERR} -MAN= kpasswdd.8 +MAN= k5passwdd.8 .include .PATH: ${KRB5DIR}/kpasswd + +k5passwdd.8: kpasswdd.8 + ln -sf ${.OODATE} ${.TARGET} kadm5/admin.h: kadm5 cp ${KRB5DIR}/lib/kadm5/admin.h ${.TARGET} Index: kerberos5/usr.bin/k5admin/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/kerberos5/usr.bin/k5admin/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -w -r1.6 Makefile --- kerberos5/usr.bin/k5admin/Makefile 13 Feb 2001 16:56:59 -0000 1.6 +++ kerberos5/usr.bin/k5admin/Makefile 23 Jan 2002 16:51:47 -0000 @@ -50,11 +50,14 @@ ${LIBKADM5CLNT} ${LIBKADM5SRV} ${LIBHDB} \ ${LIBASN1} ${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBMD} ${LIBCOM_ERR} \ ${LIBSL} ${LIBREADLINE} -NOMAN= yes +MAN8= k5admin.8 .include .PATH: ${KRB5DIR}/kadmin + +k5admin.1: kadmin.1 + ln -sf ${.OODATE} ${.TARGET} kadm5/private.h: kadm5 cp ${KRB5DIR}/lib/kadm5/private.h ${.TARGET} Index: kerberos5/usr.sbin/k5stash/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/kerberos5/usr.sbin/k5stash/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -w -r1.8 Makefile --- kerberos5/usr.sbin/k5stash/Makefile 27 Mar 2001 14:07:30 -0000 1.8 +++ kerberos5/usr.sbin/k5stash/Makefile 23 Jan 2002 16:51:47 -0000 @@ -24,8 +24,11 @@ -L${ASN1OBJDIR} -lasn1 -lcrypto -lmd -lcrypt -lcom_err DPADD= ${LIBKRB5} ${LIBKAFS5} ${LIBROKEN} ${_krb4deps} \ ${LIBASN1} ${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBMD} ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBCOM_ERR} -MAN= kstash.8 +MAN= k5stash.8 .include .PATH: ${KRB5DIR}/kdc + +k5stash.8: kstash.8 + ln -sf ${.OODATE} ${.TARGET} Index: crypto/heimdal/kadmin/kadmin.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/heimdal/kadmin/kadmin.8,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.3 diff -u -w -r1.1.1.3 kadmin.8 --- crypto/heimdal/kadmin/kadmin.8 21 Jun 2001 02:11:07 -0000 1.1.1.3 +++ crypto/heimdal/kadmin/kadmin.8 23 Jan 2002 16:51:47 -0000 @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@ .\" $Id: kadmin.8,v 1.5 2001/06/08 21:27:57 joda Exp $ .\" .Dd September 10, 2000 -.Dt KADMIN 8 +.Dt K5ADMIN 8 .Os HEIMDAL .Sh NAME -.Nm kadmin +.Nm k5admin .Nd Kerberos administration utility .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ The .Nm program is used to make modification to the Kerberos database, either remotely via the -.Xr kadmind 8 +.Xr k5admind 8 daemon, or locally (with the .Fl l option). @@ -247,7 +247,7 @@ .\".Sh EXAMPLES .\".Sh DIAGNOSTICS .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr kadmind 8 , +.Xr k5admind 8 , .Xr kdc 8 .\".Sh STANDARDS .\".Sh HISTORY Index: crypto/heimdal/kadmin/kadmind.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/heimdal/kadmin/kadmind.8,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.3 diff -u -w -r1.1.1.3 kadmind.8 --- crypto/heimdal/kadmin/kadmind.8 21 Jun 2001 02:11:07 -0000 1.1.1.3 +++ crypto/heimdal/kadmin/kadmind.8 23 Jan 2002 16:51:47 -0000 @@ -1,8 +1,8 @@ .Dd June 7, 2000 -.Dt KADMIND 8 +.Dt K5ADMIND 8 .Os HEIMDAL .Sh NAME -.Nm kadmind +.Nm k5admind .Nd "server for administrative access to kerberos database" .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ If built with krb4 support, it implements both the Heimdal Kerberos 5 administrative protocol and the Kerberos 4 protocol. Password changes via the Kerberos 4 protocol are also performed by -.Nm kadmind , +.Nm k5admind , but the .Xr kpasswdd 8 daemon is responsible for the Kerberos 5 password changing protocol @@ -124,14 +124,14 @@ .Sh FILES .Pa /var/heimdal/kadmind.acl .Sh EXAMPLES -This will cause kadmind to listen to port 4711 in addition to any +This will cause k5admind to listen to port 4711 in addition to any compiled in defaults: .Bd -literal -offset indent -# kadmind --ports="+ 4711" & +# k5admind --ports="+ 4711" & .Ed .\".Sh DIAGNOSTICS .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr kdc 8 , -.Xr kadmin 1 , -.Xr kpasswdd 8 , -.Xr kpasswd 1 +.Xr k5admin 1 , +.Xr k5passwdd 8 , +.Xr k5passwd 1 Index: crypto/heimdal/kdc/kstash.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/heimdal/kdc/kstash.8,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.4 diff -u -w -r1.1.1.4 kstash.8 --- crypto/heimdal/kdc/kstash.8 21 Jun 2001 02:11:12 -0000 1.1.1.4 +++ crypto/heimdal/kdc/kstash.8 23 Jan 2002 16:51:48 -0000 @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@ .\" $Id: kstash.8,v 1.5 2001/06/08 21:35:32 joda Exp $ .\" .Dd September 1, 2000 -.Dt KSTASH 8 +.Dt K5STASH 8 .Os HEIMDAL .Sh NAME -.Nm kstash +.Nm k5stash .Nd "store the KDC master password in a file" .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm Index: crypto/heimdal/kpasswd/kpasswd.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/heimdal/kpasswd/kpasswd.1,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.4 diff -u -w -r1.1.1.4 kpasswd.1 --- crypto/heimdal/kpasswd/kpasswd.1 21 Jun 2001 02:11:13 -0000 1.1.1.4 +++ crypto/heimdal/kpasswd/kpasswd.1 23 Jan 2002 16:51:48 -0000 @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@ .\" $Id: kpasswd.1,v 1.3 2001/05/02 08:59:22 assar Exp $ .\" .Dd Aug 27, 1997 -.Dt KPASSWD 1 +.Dt K5PASSWD 1 .Os HEIMDAL .Sh NAME -.Nm kpasswd +.Nm k5passwd .Nd Kerberos 5 password changing program .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm @@ -16,4 +16,4 @@ If the password quality check fails or some other error occurs, an explanation is printed. .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr kpasswdd 8 +.Xr k5passwdd 8 Index: crypto/heimdal/kpasswd/kpasswdd.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/heimdal/kpasswd/kpasswdd.8,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.4 diff -u -w -r1.1.1.4 kpasswdd.8 --- crypto/heimdal/kpasswd/kpasswdd.8 21 Jun 2001 02:11:13 -0000 1.1.1.4 +++ crypto/heimdal/kpasswd/kpasswdd.8 23 Jan 2002 16:51:48 -0000 @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@ .\" $Id: kpasswdd.8,v 1.5 2001/06/08 21:35:32 joda Exp $ .\" .Dd April 19, 1999 -.Dt KPASSWDD 8 +.Dt K5PASSWDD 8 .Os HEIMDAL .Sh NAME -.Nm kpasswdd +.Nm k5passwdd .Nd Kerberos 5 password changing server .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm @@ -78,7 +78,7 @@ The default password quality checks are too basic. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr kdc 8 , -.Xr kpasswd 1 +.Xr k5passwd 1 .\".Sh ENVIRONMENT .\".Sh FILES .\".Sh EXAMPLES Index: crypto/heimdal/kuser/kdestroy.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/heimdal/kuser/kdestroy.1,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.3 diff -u -w -r1.1.1.3 kdestroy.1 --- crypto/heimdal/kuser/kdestroy.1 21 Jun 2001 02:11:14 -0000 1.1.1.3 +++ crypto/heimdal/kuser/kdestroy.1 23 Jan 2002 16:51:48 -0000 @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@ .\" $Id: kdestroy.1,v 1.3 2001/05/02 08:59:22 assar Exp $ .\" .Dd August 27, 1997 -.Dt KDESTROY 1 +.Dt K5DESTROY 1 .Os HEIMDAL .Sh NAME -.Nm kdestroy +.Nm k5destroy .Nd destroy the current ticket file .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm @@ -29,5 +29,5 @@ Do not remove v4 tickets. .El .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr kinit 1 , -.Xr klist 1 +.Xr k5init 1 , +.Xr k5list 1 Index: crypto/heimdal/kuser/kinit.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/heimdal/kuser/kinit.1,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.5 diff -u -w -r1.1.1.5 kinit.1 --- crypto/heimdal/kuser/kinit.1 21 Jun 2001 02:11:14 -0000 1.1.1.5 +++ crypto/heimdal/kuser/kinit.1 23 Jan 2002 16:51:48 -0000 @@ -1,14 +1,14 @@ .\" $Id: kinit.1,v 1.11 2001/06/08 21:35:32 joda Exp $ .\" .Dd May 29, 1998 -.Dt KINIT 1 +.Dt K5INIT 1 .Os HEIMDAL .Sh NAME -.Nm kinit , +.Nm k5init , .Nm kauth .Nd acquire initial tickets .Sh SYNOPSIS -.Nm kinit +.Nm k5init .Op Fl 4 | Fl -524init .Op Fl -afslog .Oo Fl c Ar cachename \*(Ba Xo @@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ name at the default realm), and acquire a ticket granting ticket that can later be used to obtain tickets for other services. .Pp -If you have compiled kinit with Kerberos 4 support and you have a +If you have compiled k5init with Kerberos 4 support and you have a Kerberos 4 server, .Nm will detect this and get you Kerberos 4 tickets. @@ -165,7 +165,7 @@ has been compiled with support for Kerberos 4. The .Nm kauth program is identical to -.Nm kinit , +.Nm k5init , but has these options enabled by default. .Bl -tag -width Ds @@ -195,7 +195,7 @@ If a .Ar command is given, -.Nm kinit +.Nm k5init will setup new credentials caches, and AFS PAG, and then run the given command. When it finishes the credentials will be removed. .Sh ENVIRONMENT Index: crypto/heimdal/kuser/klist.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/heimdal/kuser/klist.1,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.4 diff -u -w -r1.1.1.4 klist.1 --- crypto/heimdal/kuser/klist.1 21 Jun 2001 02:11:14 -0000 1.1.1.4 +++ crypto/heimdal/kuser/klist.1 23 Jan 2002 16:51:48 -0000 @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@ .\" $Id: klist.1,v 1.8 2001/06/08 21:35:32 joda Exp $ .\" .Dd July 8, 2000 -.Dt KLIST 1 +.Dt K5LIST 1 .Os HEIMDAL .Sh NAME -.Nm klist +.Nm k5list .Nd list Kerberos credentials .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm @@ -115,5 +115,5 @@ .El .El .Sh SEE ALSO -.Xr kinit 1 , -.Xr kdestroy 1 +.Xr k5init 1 , +.Xr k5destroy 1 --=-=-=-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 9:27:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1418637B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NGw2x67364; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:58:02 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:58:02 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Randy Pratt Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: eps images not building in online handbook Message-ID: <20020123165802.B53456@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200201230442.g0N4g5U19156@mail.ezwv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201230442.g0N4g5U19156@mail.ezwv.com>; from rpratt@ezwv.com on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:49:19PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:49:19PM -0500, Randy Pratt wrote: > I noticed that images which use eps sources are not building to their png= =20 > output in the online handbook. >=20 > Some example places (probably more): >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/isdn.html > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.h= tml Fixed. A couple of the image files existed, but were zero length. Because they existed they weren't being rebuilt. Removing them, and rebuilding the web site, fixed it. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxO65kACgkQk6gHZCw343VafwCeNl/x8V7Jll9VxqCZbcyyfC02 7pMAn1j0CDRLxQ4KPXSUAGG3XAUhxihT =pnzg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 9:53:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E76D37B404; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g0NHrX725365; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:53:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:53:33 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: assar@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33645: k5list(1) contains many incorrect "klist" entries. Message-ID: <20020123195333.A22346@sunbay.com> References: <200201161505.g0GF5Hp52703@freefall.freebsd.org> <5l665t80hp.fsf@assaris.sics.se> <5l1ygh801k.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5l1ygh801k.fsf@assaris.sics.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 06:11:35PM +0100, assar@FreeBSD.org wrote: > I wrote: > > writes: > > > Assar, could you please fix this and commit the fix on the vendor > > > and RELENG_4 branches (if re@ approves). > > > > My proposed patch for this is included below. > > Which I dropped, so here it is. > > /assar > Besides some bugs in Makefiles (please test them with "make all-man"), may I suggest that you use MANFILTER to tweak the contents of manpages rather than patching them directly on the HEAD branch and taking them off the vendor branch? Something like this: Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/kerberos5/usr.bin/k5admin/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 Makefile --- Makefile 2001/02/13 16:56:59 1.6 +++ Makefile 2002/01/23 17:50:34 @@ -50,7 +50,8 @@ ${LIBKADM5CLNT} ${LIBKADM5SRV} ${LIBHDB} \ ${LIBASN1} ${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBMD} ${LIBCOM_ERR} \ ${LIBSL} ${LIBREADLINE} -NOMAN= yes +MAN= k5admin.8 +MANFILTER= sed -e's,KADMIN,K5ADMIN,g' -e's,kadmin,k5admin,g' .include @@ -70,3 +71,8 @@ CLEANFILES+= kadm5/private.h kadm5/admin.h kadm5/kadm5_err.h CLEANDIRS+= kadm5 + +k5admin.8: kadmin.8 + ln -fs ${.ALLSRC} ${.TARGET} + +CLEANFILES+= k5admin.8 Perhaps, you should use a single MANFILTER definition in kerberos5/Makefile.inc that would covert all manpage renames. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 10: 0:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE8437B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NI01P00198; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 10:00:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201231800.g0NI01P00198@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/34201: Modem Config Problems Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34201; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: Jamel Brown Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/34201: Modem Config Problems Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:04:34 -0500 Jamel Brown wrote: >>Number: 34201 >>Category: docs >>Synopsis: Modem Config Problems >>Confidential: no >>Severity: non-critical >>Priority: medium >>Responsible: freebsd-doc >>State: open >>Quarter: >>Keywords: >>Date-Required: >>Class: wish >>Submitter-Id: current-users >>Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 23 02:00:01 PST 2002 >>Closed-Date: >>Last-Modified: >>Originator: Jamel Brown >>Release: 4.4 >>Organization: >>Environment: >>Description: >> > I have recompiled my kernel about 15 times so far. When the system starts it see's my modem on sio0 and then decides to move it to sio4 after recompiling the modem. It does another detect to see where the modem is at. It then see's it on sio0 but this time because I configured it to work on sio4 it decides to move the modem to sio5 and so on and so forth. I have a ActionTec 56k fax pci modem. I need to know whether or not there is a flag page to detail every flag. I have looked at /usr/src/sys/isa/s io.c and seen that they use the flag 0x14 for this modem. Is there something here that I am not checking. Also I Have used the flag 0x20000, is this a good choice for this modem. Bottom line is I just need help to figure this one out. > >>How-To-Repeat: >> > > >>Fix: >> > > >>Release-Note: >>Audit-Trail: >>Unformatted: >> > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > Have you tried to link the devices in /dev? Is your modem hardware configured or software configured? If its software, is your bios set to PNP or Manual? I'd love to help you out, but I need more information. --Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 11:55:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from assaris.sics.se (gw.permabit.com [4.36.55.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF02837B400; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from assar@localhost) by assaris.sics.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA90290; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 20:55:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from assar) From: assar@FreeBSD.org To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/33645: k5list(1) contains many incorrect "klist" entries. References: <200201161505.g0GF5Hp52703@freefall.freebsd.org> <5l665t80hp.fsf@assaris.sics.se> <5l1ygh801k.fsf@assaris.sics.se> <20020123195333.A22346@sunbay.com> Date: 23 Jan 2002 20:55:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: Ruslan Ermilov's message of "Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:53:33 +0200" Message-ID: <5llmeo7sgr.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070098 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.98) Emacs/20.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=-=-= Ruslan Ermilov writes: > Besides some bugs in Makefiles (please test them with "make all-man"), > may I suggest that you use MANFILTER to tweak the contents of manpages > rather than patching them directly on the HEAD branch and taking them > off the vendor branch? That's a better idea. This patch (which passes "make all-man") does that. Comments? /assar --=-=-= Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=hdman.diff Index: kerberos5/Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/kerberos5/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -w -r1.8 Makefile.inc --- kerberos5/Makefile.inc 3 Aug 2001 16:03:24 -0000 1.8 +++ kerberos5/Makefile.inc 23 Jan 2002 19:25:44 -0000 @@ -170,4 +170,13 @@ .endif +MANFILTER= sed -e's,KADMIN,K5ADMIN,g' -e's,kadmin,k5admin,g' \ + -e's,KADMIND,K5ADMIND,g' -e's,kadmind,k5admind,g' \ + -e's,KSTASH,K5STASH,g' -e's,kstash,k5stash,g' \ + -e's,KPASSWD,K5PASSWD,g' -e's,kpasswd,k5passwd,g' \ + -e's,KPASSWDD,K5PASSWDD,g' -e's,kpasswdd,k5passwdd,g' \ + -e's,KDESTROY,K5DESTROY,g' -e's,kdestroy,k5destroy,g' \ + -e's,KINIT,K5INIT,g' -e's,kinit,k5init,g' \ + -e's,KLIST,K5LIST,g' -e's,klist,k5list,g' + .endif Index: kerberos5/libexec/k5admind/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/kerberos5/libexec/k5admind/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -w -r1.6 Makefile --- kerberos5/libexec/k5admind/Makefile 13 Feb 2001 16:56:57 -0000 1.6 +++ kerberos5/libexec/k5admind/Makefile 23 Jan 2002 19:25:44 -0000 @@ -30,11 +30,14 @@ DPADD= ${LIBKRB5} ${LIBKAFS5} ${LIBROKEN} ${_krb4deps} \ ${LIBKADM5CLNT} ${LIBKADM5SRV} ${LIBHDB} \ ${LIBASN1} ${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBMD} ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBCOM_ERR} -NOMAN= yes +MAN= k5admind.8 .include .PATH: ${KRB5DIR}/kadmin + +k5admind.8: kadmind.8 + ln -sf ${.OODATE} ${.TARGET} kadm5/private.h: kadm5 cp ${KRB5DIR}/lib/kadm5/private.h ${.TARGET} Index: kerberos5/libexec/k5passwdd/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/kerberos5/libexec/k5passwdd/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -w -r1.7 Makefile --- kerberos5/libexec/k5passwdd/Makefile 27 Mar 2001 14:07:29 -0000 1.7 +++ kerberos5/libexec/k5passwdd/Makefile 23 Jan 2002 19:25:44 -0000 @@ -25,11 +25,14 @@ -L${ASN1OBJDIR} -lasn1 -lcrypto -lmd -lcrypt -lcom_err DPADD= ${LIBKRB5} ${LIBROKEN} ${_krb4deps} \ ${LIBASN1} ${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBMD} ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBCOM_ERR} -MAN= kpasswdd.8 +MAN= k5passwdd.8 .include .PATH: ${KRB5DIR}/kpasswd + +k5passwdd.8: kpasswdd.8 + ln -sf ${.OODATE} ${.TARGET} kadm5/admin.h: kadm5 cp ${KRB5DIR}/lib/kadm5/admin.h ${.TARGET} Index: kerberos5/usr.bin/k5admin/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/kerberos5/usr.bin/k5admin/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -w -r1.6 Makefile --- kerberos5/usr.bin/k5admin/Makefile 13 Feb 2001 16:56:59 -0000 1.6 +++ kerberos5/usr.bin/k5admin/Makefile 23 Jan 2002 19:25:44 -0000 @@ -50,11 +50,13 @@ ${LIBKADM5CLNT} ${LIBKADM5SRV} ${LIBHDB} \ ${LIBASN1} ${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBMD} ${LIBCOM_ERR} \ ${LIBSL} ${LIBREADLINE} -NOMAN= yes .include .PATH: ${KRB5DIR}/kadmin + +k5admin.1: kadmin.1 + ln -sf ${.OODATE} ${.TARGET} kadm5/private.h: kadm5 cp ${KRB5DIR}/lib/kadm5/private.h ${.TARGET} Index: kerberos5/usr.sbin/k5stash/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/kerberos5/usr.sbin/k5stash/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -w -r1.8 Makefile --- kerberos5/usr.sbin/k5stash/Makefile 27 Mar 2001 14:07:30 -0000 1.8 +++ kerberos5/usr.sbin/k5stash/Makefile 23 Jan 2002 19:25:44 -0000 @@ -24,8 +24,11 @@ -L${ASN1OBJDIR} -lasn1 -lcrypto -lmd -lcrypt -lcom_err DPADD= ${LIBKRB5} ${LIBKAFS5} ${LIBROKEN} ${_krb4deps} \ ${LIBASN1} ${LIBCRYPTO} ${LIBMD} ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBCOM_ERR} -MAN= kstash.8 +MAN= k5stash.8 .include .PATH: ${KRB5DIR}/kdc + +k5stash.8: kstash.8 + ln -sf ${.OODATE} ${.TARGET} --=-=-=-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 13:20: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C95637B416 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:20:02 +0000 Received: from fluoxetine.lan (unverified [62.31.193.116]) by pcow057o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:20:02 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:20:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew McKay X-X-Sender: andy@fluoxetine.lan To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: eps images not building in online handbook In-Reply-To: <20020123165802.B53456@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: <20020123210612.R16282-100000@fluoxetine.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Nik Clayton wrote: NC> A couple of the image files existed, but were zero length. Because they NC> existed they weren't being rebuilt. Removing them, and rebuilding the NC> web site, fixed it. Is there any easy way to test the 'built files that already exist' for being zero length and force them to be rebuilt so that this doesn't happen? I know it would be fairly trivial with a pre-build shell script (run through and delete all zero length files, for example - `find ./ -empty -delete`) but I was wondering if this was something that make could do/be made to do. Just a thought... -- Andrew McKay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 14:20:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB3337B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0NMK2B60503; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201232220.g0NMK2B60503@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Andrew McKay Subject: Re: docs/34209: more difficult way of searching for a port's path in handbook section 4.5.2 Reply-To: Andrew McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34209; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Andrew McKay To: Marian Cerny Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34209: more difficult way of searching for a port's path in handbook section 4.5.2 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:12:36 +0000 (GMT) The following patch attempts to address this issue. This patch is also available from http://www.openirc.co.uk/freebsd/ --- chapter.sgml Thu Dec 13 13:59:27 2001 +++ chapter.sgml.new Wed Jan 23 21:40:57 2002 @@ -652,13 +652,13 @@ ports collection's built-in search mechanism. To use the search feature, you will need to be in the /usr/ports directory. Once in that - directory, run make search key=program-name + directory, run make search name=program-name where program-name is the name of the program you want to find. For example, if you were looking for lsof: &prompt.root; cd /usr/ports -&prompt.root; make search key=lsof +&prompt.root; make search name=lsof Port: lsof-4.56.4 Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof Info: Lists information about open files (similar to fstat(1)) @@ -672,6 +672,17 @@ find it. The other information provided is not needed in order to install the port directly, so it will not be covered here. + + For more in-depth searching you can also use + make search key=string where + string is some text to search for. This searches + port names, comments, descriptions and dependencies and can be used + to find ports which relate to a particular subject if you don't + know the name of the program you are looking for. + + In both of these cases, the search string is case-insensitive. + Searching for LSOF will yield the same results as + searching for lsof. You must be the root user to install -- Andrew McKay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 16: 9:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web10007.mail.yahoo.com (web10007.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CE2037B41E for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:09:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020124000924.47047.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.148.73.55] by web10007.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:09:24 PST Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:09:24 -0800 (PST) From: Kenneth Stailey Subject: Re: ARP documentation? To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm guessing that the CSRG kicked the new ARP API out the door undocumented before they shut down. *BSD just pulled it in undocumented and that's where we are now. Does this sound right to you? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 16:15:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web13804.mail.yahoo.com (web13804.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C9A437B41D for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:15:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020124001532.40258.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.96.253.100] by web13804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:15:32 EST Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:15:32 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Damien=20Byrne?= Subject: Copyright violation. To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there all. I was surfing the net doing some research on Christian beliefs, when I stumbled accross an anti Jehovas Witness site that uses the FreeBSD beastie image on one of it's pages. http://www.bible.ca/indexJws.htm It's right down the bottom in an image map. I don't know if you really care about this or not, but I thought you might like to be aware of it (I don't know who the copyright holder would be, but I'm sure someone on this list should know). Cheers. Damien Byrne. ===== Damien Byrne Cardiac Surgery Research Flinders Medical Centre http://my.yahoo.com.au - My Yahoo! - It's My Yahoo! Get your own! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 16:40: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7585E37B402 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0O0e2t85659; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201240040.g0O0e2t85659@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/33877: Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non-SU is wrong Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/33877; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Hartmut Brandt Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, schilling@fokus.gmd.de Subject: Re: docs/33877: Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non-SU is wrong Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:37:44 +0200 Adding to audit trail: Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:05:33 +0100 (MET) From: Joerg Schilling > 2. The non-superuser is not allowed to SET any SF_* flag. Doing > so results in EPERM returned (this is contrary to the man page). > 3. Clearing a SF_* flag by the superuser is silently ignored. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This should read: Clearing a SF_* flag by the non-superuser is silently ignored. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 17:29:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4608637B402 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0O1Tte96539 for freebsd-doc; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:29:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from www) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:29:55 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201240129.g0O1Tte96539@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ===> doc/articles/contributors ===> doc/articles/cvs-freebsd ===> doc/articles/cvsup-advanced ===> doc/articles/dialup-firewall ===> doc/articles/diskless-x ===> doc/articles/euro ===> doc/articles/explaining-bsd ===> doc/articles/filtering-bridges ===> doc/articles/fonts ===> doc/articles/formatting-media ===> doc/articles/freebsd-questions ===> doc/articles/ipsec-must ===> doc/articles/laptop ===> doc/articles/mh ===> doc/articles/multi-os ===> doc/articles/new-users ===> doc/articles/problem-reports ===> doc/articles/programming-tools ===> doc/articles/pxe ===> doc/articles/serial-uart ===> doc/articles/solid-state ===> doc/articles/storage-devices ===> doc/articles/vinum ===> doc/articles/vm-design ===> doc/articles/zip-drive ===> doc/books ===> doc/books/corp-net-guide ===> doc/books/design-44bsd ===> doc/books/developers-handbook ===> doc/books/faq ===> doc/books/fdp-primer ===> doc/books/handbook /usr/local/bin/scr2png < install/options.scr > install/options.png cannot create install/options.png: permission denied *** Error code 2 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. 436.14 real 209.76 user 8.74 sys To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 18:27:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5814437B400; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 18:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0O2B4a95485; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:11:04 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:11:04 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: www@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20020124021104.I53456@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200201240129.g0O1Tte96539@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwgQ89ZNnFUwFHTC" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201240129.g0O1Tte96539@freefall.freebsd.org>; from www@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 05:29:55PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --rwgQ89ZNnFUwFHTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 05:29:55PM -0800, www@FreeBSD.org wrote: > /usr/local/bin/scr2png < install/options.scr > install/options.png > cannot create install/options.png: permission denied Fixed. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --rwgQ89ZNnFUwFHTC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxPbTYACgkQk6gHZCw343W7EQCeLdRA79qazvraLrTQ6BMVaf9Q AIEAn2LdFOuhYXTrzaJZEidr+oF6MeVQ =vEy/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwgQ89ZNnFUwFHTC-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 19: 9:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EF137B400 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:09:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 76EDF4B65D; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:09:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:09:15 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Damien Byrne Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Copyright violation. Message-ID: <20020124030915.GC27267@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020124001532.40258.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020124001532.40258.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 11:15:32AM +1100, Damien Byrne wrote: > I was surfing the net doing some research on Christian beliefs, when I stumbled accross an anti > Jehovas Witness site that uses the FreeBSD beastie image on one of it's pages. It's not actually the same beastie by the same artist as the one all over our web site. It is indeed a demon wearing sneakers, holding a trident, and standing in the same pose though. I'm not sure if this was an actual image created to advocate BSD Unix or if the idea/form was simply copied from one. In any case, I don't think we have much to stand on. The daemon image is copyright Kirk McKusick, but hundreds or thousands of different artists have made images of the BSD daemon, and I doubt that very many of those people have ever contacted Kirk. I don't think its worth pursuing, but I certainly won't object if someone has some free time on their hands and a burning desire to have the image removed. I will forward your original message to mckusick@FreeBSD.org. Thanks, - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 19:11:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F43B37B402; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0O38Ph18718; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:08:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:08:25 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201240308.g0O38Ph18718@freefall.freebsd.org> To: viril29@yahoo.com, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34201: Modem Config Problems Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Modem Config Problems State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Wed Jan 23 19:05:22 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: The PR database is for reporting bugs in FreeBSD, not for asking/ answering questions. If you post your question to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org list, someone should be able to help you out. 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Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0O5K1D58634; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA22037B405 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA45BD68 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08729 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:17:04 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0O5KAj01559; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:20:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 23 Jan 2002 21:20:10 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/34220: eject(1) man page needs cleanup Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34220 >Category: docs >Synopsis: eject(1) man page needs cleanup >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 23 21:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The eject man page has several minor problems that should be cleaned up. -- Has "brefore" for "before". -- Has "Not" for "Do not" in -n option description. -- The "ENVIRONMENT" section has an unneeded and obvious explanation. -- The "DESCRIPTION" is wordy. -- The option descriptions are not as clear as they should be. -- Has a "FILES" section which is not appropriate or at least unneeded. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: patch -d "unknown uncompressed man directory" < this-PR --- /tmp/eject..orig.1 Wed Jan 23 19:49:58 2002 +++ /tmp/eject.1 Wed Jan 23 21:02:57 2002 @@ -36,39 +36,23 @@ .Ar device .Sh DESCRIPTION .Nm eject -is a program to eject removable media from drive. -The +causes removable media to ejected from the drive named by .Ar device -is a removable drive name such as cd0, matcd0, mcd0, scd0, wcd0 or od0. -.Nm eject -unmounts the -.Ar device -if it was mounted brefore ejecting. +(eg, cd0, matcd0, mcd0, scd0, wcd0, or od0), which if mounted on a +filesystem, is first dismounted. .Pp The following options are available: .Bl -tag -width Ds .It Fl f -Force unmounts the device if it was mounted. +Forcibly unmounts the device if it was mounted (as in umount(8)). .It Fl n -Not execute operation but print it. +Do not eject, but verbosely output what would be done. .It Fl v -Verbose mode. +Verbosely output what is done. .Sh ENVIRONMENT -If the following environment variable exists, it is used by -.Nm eject : .Bl -tag -width Ds .It Ev EJECT -Specifies default device. -.El -.Sh FILES -.Bl -tag -width /dev/rmatcd0c -compact -.It Pa /dev/rcd0c -.It Pa /dev/rmatcd0c -.It Pa /dev/rmcd0c -.It Pa /dev/rscd0c -.It Pa /dev/rwcd0c -.It Pa /dev/rod0c -.El +Specifies the default device. .Sh AUTHOR Shunsuke Akiyama .Sh HISTORY >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 22: 8:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ms29.hinet.net (ms29.hinet.net [168.95.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8195337B405; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:08:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from kuo (61-218-144-173.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.218.144.173]) by ms29.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA07169; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:49:35 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <003901c1a49b$c0178ea0$ad90da3d@kuo> From: "=?big5?B?pfi3fq5hpGq2uqmxLi4uLg==?=" To: =?big5?B?t3Gx0qrM?= Subject: =?big5?B?tEiwsq7IuUMgpu2xSjWn6Sitrbr0pFetcanQKTEtNQ==?= Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:49:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01C1A4DD.F759A6E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C1A4DD.F759A6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A5=BB=B6=BA=A9=B1=A8C=A6~=C1|=BF=EC=A5|=A6=B8=A4=A7 = =A6=ED=B1J=A2=B4=A7=E9 =A6^=F5X=AC=A1=B0=CA = =A7Y=B1N=AEi=B6}=A8=C3=B8g=A5=D1=A6=B9 Emaill=20 =A7i=AA=BE=B1z=B8=D4=B2=D3=A4=BA=AEe =B9L=A9]=BD=D0=A4W http://gohotel.com.tw =BA=F4=AF=B8=C2s=C4=FD Your best choice for accommodation in Taichung. =A4@=A6=B8=BA=A1=A8=AC = =A6=ED=B1J.=A6Y=B3=DC.=AA=B1=BC=D6.=C1=CA=AA=AB = =A4@=A6=B8=BA=A1=A8=AC =A5=F8=B7~=AEa=A4j=B6=BA=A9=B1 =A6h=A6=B8=BAa=C0=F2=A5x=A4=A4=A5=AB=C0u=A8}=AE=C8=C0]=B5=FB=C5=B2=B2=C4=A4= @=A6W =ADY=B1z=A4=A3=B7Q=A6A=A6=AC=A8=EC=A6=B9=AC=A1=B0=CA =BD=D0=A5=D1 gohotel101r@hotmail.com =A7i=AA=BE=A7=DA=AD=CC = =C1=C2=C1=C2 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C1A4DD.F759A6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/34222: head(1) man page has erroneous SYNOPSIS. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34222 >Category: docs >Synopsis: head(1) man page has erroneous SYNOPSIS. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 23 23:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The SYNOPSIS text "head [-n count] [-c bytes]" should be "head [-n count | -c bytes]". ================ >How-To-Repeat: $ head -c 4 -n 5 head: can't combine line and byte counts ================ >Fix: patch -d "unknown uncompressed man directory" < this-PR --- /tmp/head..orig.1 Wed Jan 23 23:27:43 2002 +++ /tmp/head.1 Wed Jan 23 23:29:56 2002 @@ -40,8 +40,7 @@ .Nd display first lines of a file .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm -.Op Fl n Ar count -.Op Fl c Ar bytes +.Op Fl n Ar count | Fl c Ar bytes .Op Ar .Sh DESCRIPTION This filter displays the first >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 23 23:42:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.borahome.net (smtp1.borahome.com [203.248.241.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C784037B416 for ; 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Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0O7o1f99566; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5F037B405 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:46:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7267BD20 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07872 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:46:46 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0O7nqJ01813; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:49:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 23 Jan 2002 23:49:51 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/34224: chmod(1) man page confuses original mode and original file Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34224 >Category: docs >Synopsis: chmod(1) man page confuses original mode and original file >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jan 23 23:50:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The three references to the "mode of the original file" are confusing as there is only one file involved. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Change "mode of the original file" to "original mode of the file" in three places. patch -d "unknown uncompressed man directory" < this-PR --- /tmp/chmod..orig.1 Wed Jan 23 23:43:46 2002 +++ /tmp/chmod.1 Wed Jan 23 23:44:30 2002 @@ -211,11 +211,11 @@ .Ar op symbol ``+'', and are ignored in all other cases. .It u -The user permission bits in the mode of the original file. +The user permission bits in the original mode of the file. .It g -The group permission bits in the mode of the original file. +The group permission bits in the original mode of the file. .It o -The other permission bits in the mode of the original file. +The other permission bits in the original mode of the file. .El .Pp The >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 24 2:50:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CDC37B417; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id AA4564B65D; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:50:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:50:27 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Randy Pratt , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: eps images not building in online handbook Message-ID: <20020124105027.GL1674@freebsdmall.com> References: <200201230442.g0N4g5U19156@mail.ezwv.com> <200201230502.g0N52tV78982@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020123054546.GI27267@freebsdmall.com> <200201230613.g0N6DwH79666@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200201230613.g0N6DwH79666@bmah.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yea. I came up with the same patch. I'll submit this to the port maintainer, since it should really be fixed for the -gnu port as well. - Murray On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 10:13:58PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 09:02:55PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > I also note that Murray Stokely's release engineering article (any > > > others?) don't seem to be linkable from the main docs page: > > > > I'm waiting for the admins to update ghostscript on freefall. Once > > that is done the article will build properly and I can link it to the > > build again. All of this because people complained that I used TeX to > > generate my figure. > > I wasn't one of those people, for the record. :-) > > > The figure is now done in PIC (which I admit is > > much nicer) but there is a bug in in the ps2epsi program in many > > versions of ghostscript. > > Is this a bug where sed keeps barfing and causes gs to coredump? > > I did the hack below to get around this, because I was too lazy to see > if a more recent version of the port fixes this error. Apparently I'm > running ghostscript-gnu-6.52. > > Bruce. > > --- /usr/local/bin/ps2epsi Mon Nov 19 16:03:43 2001 > +++ /usr/users/bmah/bin/ps2epsi Mon Jan 21 10:09:17 2002 > @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ > BEGINEPS > > cat ${infile} | > -sed -e '/^%%BeginPreview:/,/^%%EndPreview[^!-~]*$/d' -e '/^%!PS-Adobe/d'\ > +sed -e '/^%%BeginPreview:/,/^%%EndPreview[^!-~]*$/d' -e '/^%!PS-Adobe/d' \ > -e '/^%%[A-Za-z][A-Za-z]*[^!-~]*$/d' -e '/^%%[A-Za-z][A-Za-z]*: /d' > > cat << ENDEPS > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 24 8: 9:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4EE437B400; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020124160929.JDRW3578.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:09:29 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0OG9Tk08825; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:09:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201241609.g0OG9Tk08825@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Murray Stokely Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Randy Pratt , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: eps images not building in online handbook In-reply-to: <20020124105027.GL1674@freebsdmall.com> References: <200201230442.g0N4g5U19156@mail.ezwv.com> <200201230502.g0N52tV78982@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020123054546.GI27267@freebsdmall.com> <200201230613.g0N6DwH79666@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020124105027.GL1674@freebsdmall.com> Comments: In-reply-to Murray Stokely message dated "Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:50:27 -0800." From: bmah@FreeBSD.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:09:28 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote: > Yea. I came up with the same patch. I'll submit this to the port > maintainer, since it should really be fixed for the -gnu port as well. Demented^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HGreat minds think alike. This must be a recent bug. I used ps2epsi for many years in grad school, and I don't ever remember running into this problem. Bruce. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 24 10:20:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E408F37B400 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0OIK1409756; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5AB37B404 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:16:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD3ABCB6 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:16:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18066 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:16:19 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0OIJM102371; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:19:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 24 Jan 2002 10:19:22 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/34234: restore(8) man page doesn't explain rrestore Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34234 >Category: docs >Synopsis: restore(8) man page doesn't explain rrestore >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jan 24 10:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The restore(8) man page doesn't mention "rrestore", except in NAME. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 24 12:19:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2EE37B402 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C55A17DDB for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 21:19:37 +0100 (CET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bremen.shuttle.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -5) with UUCP id g0OKJbwH010234 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 21:19:37 +0100 Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0OJhjn05020 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:43:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:43:45 +0100 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: All caps and plural Message-ID: <20020124204345.A4101@schweikhardt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear *, [I'm not a native English speaker, so take this with a grain of salt]. Often I encounter documentation (mostly man pages) where the plural of some capitalized word or acronym is made by appending an apostrophe followed by s. E.g. tr(1) has The tr utility ... stripped NUL's from its input stream. and sed(1) has Interpret regular expressions as extended (modern) regular expressions rather than basic regular expressions (BRE's). I've been taught that apostrophe + s indicates possession and plural is formed by appending an s (except for the usual exceptions like women etc). So I rather expect NULs and BREs to be correct. There's also the case of abbreviations in lower case, like uids and gids vs uid's and gid's. The documentation has undergone a few spelling sweeps for consistency in the past (CD-ROM comes to mind). Does anyone have a word on how to deal with plurals of acronyms and abbreviations? Or am I just anal? :-) Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 24 14:21: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E6F37B41C for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0OMK1h87162; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12F537BA33 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC63BE02 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:13:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27374 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:13:14 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0OMGar02864; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:16:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 24 Jan 2002 14:16:36 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/34239: tunefs(8) man page doesn't describe arguments. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34239 >Category: docs >Synopsis: tunefs(8) man page doesn't describe arguments. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jan 24 14:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE i386 (26 dec) >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: -- The tunefs(8) man page doesn't describe the optional arguments "special" and "filesystem". -- It doesn't say what the default is and from my experiment and look at code /usr/src/sbin/tunefs/tunefs.c I think there is no default; at least one argument must be used. -- The two argument names are not as clear as they should be, since both are intended to identify the filesystem to be tuned and "special" is not even standard jargon when used alone. (Change "usage" later.) -- It uses both "filesystem" and "file system" in similar contexts. -- It doesn't say that it reads from /etc/fstab if the filesytem is specified by a mount point. -- It uses "flags" for "options" in one place. (A flag is the first part of an option.) ================ >How-To-Repeat: tunefs -p ================ >Fix: Replace "special" with "device-file" and "filesystem" with "mount-point". Remove the option brackets. Add descriptions. Replace "file system" with "filesystem" throughout. patch -d "unknown uncompressed man directory" < this-PR --- /tmp/tunefs..orig.8 Thu Jan 24 13:10:07 2002 +++ /tmp/tunefs.8 Thu Jan 24 14:06:43 2002 @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ .Os .Sh NAME .Nm tunefs -.Nd tune up an existing file system +.Nd tune up an existing filesystem .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm .Op Fl A @@ -52,16 +52,22 @@ .Op Fl p .Op Fl s Ar avgfpdir .Ek -.Op Ar special | Ar filesystem +.Ar device-file | mount-point .Sh DESCRIPTION .Nm Tunefs -is designed to change the dynamic parameters of a file system +is designed to change the dynamic parameters of a filesystem which affect the layout policies. -The parameters which are to be changed are indicated by the flags -given below: +.Pp +.Pp +The filesystem to be tuned is specified by either its device-special file, +.Ar device-file , +or its mount point, +.Ar mount-point +(if that is in a standard entry in /etc/fstab). +The parameters which are to be changed are indicated by these options: .Bl -tag -width indent .It Fl A -The file system has several backups of the super-block. Specifying +The filesystem has several backups of the super-block. Specifying this option will cause all backups to be modified as well as the primary super-block. This is potentially dangerous - use with caution. .It Fl a Ar maxcontig @@ -92,7 +98,7 @@ The effect of this limit is to cause big files to do long seeks more frequently than if they were allowed to allocate all the blocks in a cylinder group before seeking elsewhere. -For file systems with exclusively large files, +For filesystems with exclusively large files, this parameter should be set higher. .It Fl f Ar avgfilezsize Specify the expected average file size. @@ -113,16 +119,16 @@ Turn on/off soft updates. An unmounted filesystem is required. .It Fl o Ar space | time -The file system can either try to minimize the time spent +The filesystem can either try to minimize the time spent allocating blocks, or it can attempt to minimize the space fragmentation on the disk. Optimization for space has much higher overhead for file writes. The kernel normally changes the preference automatically as -the percent fragmentation changes on the file system. +the percent fragmentation changes on the filesystem. .It Fl p Show a summary of what the current tunable settings -are on the selected file system. More detailed information can be +are on the selected filesystem. More detailed information can be obtained in the .Xr dumpfs 8 manual page. @@ -133,7 +139,7 @@ If .Nm .Fl n -is run to enable/disable soft update on an unmounted file system +is run to enable/disable soft update on an unmounted filesystem after booting single-user then .Nm will output the warning @@ -167,16 +173,16 @@ .%O "(reprinted in the BSD System Manager's Manual, SMM:5)" .Re .Sh BUGS -This program should work on mounted and active file systems. +This program should work on mounted and active filesystems. Because the super-block is not kept in the buffer cache, the changes will only take effect if the program -is run on dismounted file systems. -To change the root file system, the system must be rebooted -after the file system is tuned. +is run on dismounted filesystems. +To change the root filesystem, the system must be rebooted +after the filesystem is tuned. .\" Take this out and a Unix Demon will dog your steps from now until .\" the time_t's wrap around. .Pp -You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish. +You can tune a filesystem, but you can't tune a fish. .Sh HISTORY The .Nm >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 24 14:34:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93DF37B402 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0274DBDE1; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:34:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01977; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:34:30 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0OMbpj02867; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Jens Schweikhardt Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: All caps and plural References: <20020124204345.A4101@schweikhardt.net> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 24 Jan 2002 14:37:51 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20020124204345.A4101@schweikhardt.net> Message-ID: <0v3d0v8jeo.d0v@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jens Schweikhardt writes: > I've been taught that apostrophe + s indicates possession and plural is > formed by appending an s (except for the usual exceptions like women etc). > So I rather expect NULs and BREs to be correct. There's also the case of > abbreviations in lower case, like uids and gids vs uid's and gid's. I thought the form with apostrophe was the only proper form for a couple of decades, but even my old dictionary makes it sort of optional, and many more trendy types prefer to never use it. Using it only on lower case seems a good compromise as it does help readability in that place. AHD from 1973: Terms made up of single letters or numbers, or groups of letters or numbers, are made plural by the addition of "'s" or "s", as "two R's" (or "Rs"), "two 6's" (or "6s"), "GI's" (or "GIs"), "the 1930's" (or "1930s"). The "'s" form is usually used for lower-case letters: "two t's". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 24 16: 0: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACED37B402 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0P002C10312; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:00:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201250000.g0P002C10312@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/34239: tunefs(8) man page doesn't describe arguments. Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34239; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: swear@blarg.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/34239: tunefs(8) man page doesn't describe arguments. Date: 24 Jan 2002 16:00:05 -0800 Please slip this into the tunefs(8) man page file too: .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width /etc/fstab -compact .It Pa /etc/fstab read to determine the device file for a specified mount point .El To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 24 17: 0: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DE237B402 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 17:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0P102s22059; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 17:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 17:00:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201250100.g0P102s22059@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/34220: eject(1) man page needs cleanup Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34220; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: swear@blarg.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34220: eject(1) man page needs cleanup Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:51:57 +0000 "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote: > > >Number: 34220 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: eject(1) man page needs cleanup There is no eject(1) in the base system: dd@ref5% man eject No manual entry for eject To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 24 17: 0:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82A737B417 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 17:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0P102b22070; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 17:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BA437B402 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0P0tEI21307; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:55:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201250055.g0P0tEI21307@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:55:14 -0800 (PST) From: Sven Petai To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/34244: link to estonian documentation project is outdated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34244 >Category: docs >Synopsis: link to estonian documentation project is outdated >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jan 24 17:00:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sven Petai >Release: 4.4 Stable >Organization: NPO BSD Estonia >Environment: FreeBSD depression.softematic.com 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Jan 25 01:24:01 EET 2002 root@depression.softematic.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/HADARA i386 >Description: Links to Estonian documentation project @ http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/translations.html#estonian are outdated. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: new projects main page can be found @ http://www.bsd.ee/tolge.php at the moment we are translating only handbook @ http://www.bsd.ee/handbook/ >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 24 20:10:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952E537B402 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0P4A0P66495; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7F937B404 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E148BDC9 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA30170 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:03:23 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0P46i903341; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:06:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: <3zpu3z6pm3.u3z@localhost.localdomain> Date: 24 Jan 2002 20:06:44 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/34248: dump(8) man page block/record/other clarifications. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34248 >Category: docs >Synopsis: dump(8) man page block/record/other clarifications. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jan 24 20:10:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE i386 (~26'dec'02) >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The dump(8) man page has several problems: -- It confusing in its use of "records", "blocks", "blocksize", etc. -- It doesn't give -b's default, 10. -- It doesn't say that -B argument gets rounded down. -- It doesn't mention "rdump" except in "NAME" section. -- It uses both "filesystem" and "file system" in similar contexts. -- It doesn't describe the "filesystem" argument. -- The second SYNOPSIS command improperly shows required options as optional. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: patch -d "unknown uncompressed man directory" < this-PR --- /tmp/dump..orig.8 Thu Jan 24 15:32:29 2002 +++ /tmp/dump.8 Thu Jan 24 19:58:28 2002 @@ -53,7 +53,11 @@ .Op Fl T Ar date .Ar filesystem .Nm -.Op Fl W Li \&| Fl w +.Fl W | Fl w +.Pp +.Nm rdump +is an alternate name for +.Nm . .Pp .in \" XXX (The @@ -83,17 +87,23 @@ (such as some cartridge tape drives) each volume is of a fixed size; the actual size is determined by the tape size and density and/or -block count options below. +.Fl B +options. By default, the same output file name is used for each volume after prompting the operator to change media. .Pp +The filesystem to be dumped is specified by the argument +.Ar filesystem +as either its device-special file or its mount point +(if that is in a standard entry in /etc/fstab). +.Pp The following options are supported by .Nm : .Bl -tag -width Ds .It Fl 0\-9 Dump levels. A level 0, full backup, -guarantees the entire file system is copied +guarantees the entire filesystem is copied (but see also the .Fl h option below). @@ -112,11 +122,15 @@ drive with hardware compression (where you can never be sure about the compression ratio). .It Fl B Ar records -The number of 1 KB blocks per volume. +The number of kilobytes per output volume, except that if it is +not an integer multiple of the output block size, +the command uses the next smaller such multiple. This option overrides the calculation of tape size based on length and density. .It Fl b Ar blocksize -The number of kilobytes per dump record. +The number of kilobytes per output block, except that if it is +larger than 64, the command uses 64. (See the BUGS section.) +The default block size is 10. .It Fl c Change the defaults for use with a cartridge tape drive, with a density of 8000 bpi, and a length of 1700 feet. @@ -240,7 +254,7 @@ option may be used to change it. .It Fl W .Nm Dump -tells the operator what file systems need to be dumped. +tells the operator what filesystems need to be dumped. This information is gleaned from the files .Pa dumpdates and @@ -249,12 +263,12 @@ .Fl W option causes .Nm -to print out, for each file system in +to print out, for each filesystem in the .Pa dumpdates file the most recent dump date and level, -and highlights those file systems that should be dumped. +and highlights those filesystems that should be dumped. If the .Fl W option is set, all other options are ignored, and @@ -345,8 +359,7 @@ This should be done at set intervals, say once a month or once every two months, and on a set of fresh tapes that is saved forever. .It -After a level 0, dumps of active file -systems are taken on a daily basis, +After a level 0, dumps of active filesystems are taken on a daily basis, using a modified Tower of Hanoi algorithm, with this sequence of dump levels: .Bd -literal -offset indent @@ -357,7 +370,7 @@ for each day, used on a weekly basis. Each week, a level 1 dump is taken, and the daily Hanoi sequence repeats beginning with 3. -For weekly dumps, another fixed set of tapes per dumped file system is +For weekly dumps, another fixed set of tapes per dumped filesystem is used, also on a cyclical basis. .El .Pp @@ -380,7 +393,7 @@ .Fl D option) .It Pa /etc/fstab -dump table: file systems and frequency +dump table: filesystems and frequency .It Pa /etc/group to find group .Em operator @@ -405,7 +418,7 @@ Currently, .Xr physio 9 slices all requests into chunks of 64 KB. Therefore, it is -impossible to use a larger tape blocksize, so +impossible to use a larger output block size, so .Nm will prevent this from happening. .Pp >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 24 20:20: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BC437B402 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0P4K1e67929; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201250420.g0P4K1e67929@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/34220: eject(1) man page needs cleanup Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/34220; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34220: eject(1) man page needs cleanup Date: 24 Jan 2002 20:21:23 -0800 Dima Dorfman writes: > There is no eject(1) in the base system: Sorry. I'll try the author or porter. Close it. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 1:41:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E88937B400 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 01:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from tobinfc2@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.26.) id n.a.18f6d0c4 (4568) for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 04:41:54 -0500 (EST) From: tobinfc2@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 04:41:54 EST Subject: cuzit To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 27 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org what's up buttercup? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 3: 5: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4232437B404 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 03:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16U4Cw-000FFr-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:07:46 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Handbook and FAQ progress superb! Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:07:46 +0200 Message-ID: <58642.1011956866@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys, I'd just like to drop y'all a quick note to say that the work that's gone into the Handbook and FAQ over the last year has produced some truely superb results. You've got some really kick-ass documentation in place now. So much so that I feel 100% comfortable referring complete newbies to the Handbook for installation and several post-configuration issues. Keep up the great work! Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 5: 7:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2311337B400 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 05:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::130]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D422E24D06 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:07:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::160]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CBB1E46E8 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:07:08 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:07:08 +0900 Message-ID: <7msn8utw8z.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Documentation Team Subject: Relative link in books User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.9.5 (Unchained Melody) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/21.1 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOC1MWhsoQg==?=) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I found following patch in fdp-primer during translation into Japanese. IMHO, any books (and articles) should not depend on the relation of path between www/en tree and doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 tree. "FDP primer" should exist as independent book without www/en tree. So I think it should be absolute path (URI) instead of relative path. =================================================================== RCS file: /c/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.10 retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -p -r1.10 -r1.11 --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml 2001/10/02 06:00:27 1.10 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml 2001/10/23 21:54:17 1.11 @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS DOCUMENTATION, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. - $FreeBSD: /c/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml,v 1.10 2001/10/02 06:00:27 murray Exp $ + $FreeBSD: /c/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml,v 1.11 2001/10/23 21:54:17 murray Exp $ --> @@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ This is the main FreeBSD presence on the World Wide Web, visible at http://www.FreeBSD.org/ + url="../../../../index.html">http://www.FreeBSD.org/ and many mirrors around the world. The web site is many people's first exposure to FreeBSD. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 5:57:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B8637B416; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 05:57:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0PDTnk17031; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:29:49 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:29:49 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , Roberto Cantanhede , Jose Porfirio , Hammurabi Mendes Subject: Re: Initial translation to pt_BR effort (review plz) Message-ID: <20020125132949.X53456@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020121222331.98340.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <20020122130625.A37687@ark.cris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BERr2LqgA7m/bZG/" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020122130625.A37687@ark.cris.net>; from phantom@ark.cris.net on Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 01:06:25PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --BERr2LqgA7m/bZG/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 01:06:25PM +0200, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > . for first time leave documents in tree committed, but not=20 > connected to build (at least version which you've put to url > noted below should not build). As example I may note russian > handbook which still is under translation and is available from > built form from my website, but it will not be connected to > build until completely translated (to avoid distributing partialy > translated document with main FreeBSD dist) FWIW, I don't that's necessary, and I think it's better to have partial=20 docs than no docs. Two reasons for this are: 1. The bit you've translated may be just what someone is looking for. They might not need the whole document to solve whatever problem they're having. 2. It increases the 'visibility' of the translation effort, and encourages others to help. =20 Obviously, the final decision is yours, but I'm all in favour of connecting things to the build (as long as they're syntactically valid and don't break it). N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --BERr2LqgA7m/bZG/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxRXc0ACgkQk6gHZCw343Xm6gCeI2FaYEkfpl1gLsPk+OANI23c mqQAoJYlICt4c3JXBBGx4UAGG+7GgEqm =uvtD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BERr2LqgA7m/bZG/-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 6:35:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.homechoice.co.uk (sc-gw1.homechoice.co.uk [212.187.157.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8616F37B404 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 06:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24547 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2002 14:27:59 -0000 Received: from sc-vs0-9-235.homechoice.co.uk (HELO virginiasdell) (10.16.36.235) by sc-outsmtp1.homechoice.co.uk with SMTP; 25 Jan 2002 14:27:59 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c1a5ac$a186ab80$eb24100a@virginiasdell> From: "windiz" To: Subject: MS/BSD compatability Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:28:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A5AC.A0D731A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A5AC.A0D731A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I run windows 98 with office 2000 and am totally fed up with MS. If I = come over to BSD will I be able to read my word files? Can I easily = divorce from MS? Kind regards, Peter Dizer - please reply to: pdizer@aol.com ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A5AC.A0D731A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A5AC.A0D731A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 6:41:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CF437B416 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 06:41:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0PEeZB79497; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:40:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:40:34 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: windiz Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, pdizer@aol.com Subject: Re: MS/BSD compatability Message-ID: <20020125094034.A79478@blackhelicopters.org> References: <000801c1a5ac$a186ab80$eb24100a@virginiasdell> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000801c1a5ac$a186ab80$eb24100a@virginiasdell>; from windiz@windiz.homechoice.co.uk on Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:28:59PM -0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Thanks for checking us out! First off, your best bet for this sort of question is questions@freebsd.org. There are all sorts of people there who will be happy to help you. We here on -doc actually discuss writing documentation. But, you couldn't know that right off. Yes, you can read your files with FreeBSD. There's a discussion of this, as well as other migration concerns, in the introductory section of the FreeBSD FAQ. You can get there from the main FreeBSD web page, http://www.freebsd.org. Good luck, and welcome. ==ml On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:28:59PM -0000, windiz wrote: > Hi, > I run windows 98 with office 2000 and am totally fed up with MS. If I come over to BSD will I be able to read my word files? Can I easily divorce from MS? > Kind regards, > Peter Dizer - please reply to: pdizer@aol.com -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 7:24:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21108.mail.yahoo.com (web21108.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D627B37B402 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:24:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020125152455.76580.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:24:55 PST Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:24:55 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: Relative link in books To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <7msn8utw8z.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Jun Kuriyama wrote: > "FDP primer" should exist as independent book > without www/en tree. > So I think it should be absolute path (URI) instead > of relative path. hi, I might be saying rubbish ;) neway, I think the relative path is used for the reason that, when this book is distributed on mirrors, it goes to their local mirror's index.html; either way: URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org URL: / (just a slash) OK, as of the above, I think the relative path should only be a slash, and not something like ../../.. and stuff like that. One way or other it will go to the local mirror's index.html page. thanks, regards, =========================================== Hiten Pandya hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org The JFS4BSD Project http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/jfs4bsd =========================================== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 8:28:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [210.190.142.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B5537B41E for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:28:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.hrslab.yi.org (p5126-ip02funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [61.214.4.126]) by eos.ocn.ne.jp (OCN) with ESMTP id BAA16149; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:28:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.hrslab.yi.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail.hrslab.yi.org (8.9.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id BAA61695; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:25:38 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:24:53 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20020126.012453.104024536.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: hitmaster2k@yahoo.com Cc: kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Relative link in books From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20020125152455.76580.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <7msn8utw8z.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20020125152455.76580.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiten Pandya wrote in <20020125152455.76580.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com>: hitmaster2k> I think the relative path is used for the reason that, hitmaster2k> when this book is distributed on mirrors, it goes to hitmaster2k> their local mirror's index.html; either way: hitmaster2k> hitmaster2k> URL: http://www.FreeBSD.org hitmaster2k> URL: / (just a slash) hitmaster2k> hitmaster2k> OK, as of the above, I think the relative path should hitmaster2k> only be a slash, and not something like ../../.. and hitmaster2k> stuff like that. One way or other it will go to the hitmaster2k> local mirror's index.html page. No, your idea is not always applicable. For example, Japanese mirror has http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/www.FreeBSD.org/ as the base URI of them. Perhaps, to define a base URI as an entity (e.g. &wwwbase;) adaptively in the build process may be preferable. Assuming that the documents are built for www.FreeBSD.org, we can use a relative URI ("../../.." style) since there would be www/en tree together. And if not so, we can use an absolute one. For the both cases, we only need to write "&wwwbase;/index.html" into the document. Of course the build for www.FreeBSD.org is an exceptional case. I also think that any books should not depend upon the relative location of www/ hierarchy, and absolute path should be used basically for such reference. -- | Hiroki Sato | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 8:40:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A9537B404 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020125164035.SMWM3578.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:40:35 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0PGeZh74660; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:40:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201251640.g0PGeZh74660@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Hiroki Sato Cc: hitmaster2k@yahoo.com, kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Relative link in books In-reply-to: <20020126.012453.104024536.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> References: <7msn8utw8z.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20020125152455.76580.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> <20020126.012453.104024536.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Comments: In-reply-to Hiroki Sato message dated "Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:24:53 +0900." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:40:35 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Perhaps, to define a base URI as an entity (e.g. &wwwbase;) adaptively > in the build process may be preferable. Assuming that the documents > are built for www.FreeBSD.org, we can use a relative > URI ("../../.." style) since there would be www/en tree together. > And if not so, we can use an absolute one. For the both cases, > we only need to write "&wwwbase;/index.html" into the document. I think this is a good idea. Another case that people frequently forget is that we sometimes *do* make print versions of our documents, and it makes no sense to have a relative URI reference off of a piece of paper. This is easily fixed by setting &wwwbase; (or whatever it's called) appropriately when generating non-hyperlink-capable documents. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 12:11:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nic.upatras.gr (nic.upatras.gr [150.140.129.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B023337B402 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:11:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20980 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2002 20:07:47 -0000 Received: from dialup3-ceid-dialinpool-10.upatras.gr (HELO hades.hell.gr) (root@150.140.128.202) by nic.upatras.gr with SMTP; 25 Jan 2002 20:07:47 -0000 Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0PKAl209709; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:10:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:10:46 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Hiroki Sato Cc: hitmaster2k@yahoo.com, kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Relative link in books Message-ID: <20020125201046.GC7374@hades.hell.gr> References: <7msn8utw8z.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20020125152455.76580.qmail@web21108.mail.yahoo.com> <20020126.012453.104024536.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020126.012453.104024536.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-01-26 01:24:53, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Perhaps, to define a base URI as an entity (e.g. &wwwbase;) adaptively > in the build process may be preferable. Assuming that the documents > are built for www.FreeBSD.org, we can use a relative > URI ("../../.." style) since there would be www/en tree together. > And if not so, we can use an absolute one. For the both cases, > we only need to write "&wwwbase;/index.html" into the document. > > Of course the build for www.FreeBSD.org is an exceptional case. > I also think that any books should not depend upon the relative > location of www/ hierarchy, and absolute path should be used > basically for such reference. I seem to like the idea of an entity. More than one, if anything else. 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localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24551 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:13:58 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0PMHED03746; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:17:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Should common/traditional Unix SA tasks be documented? From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 25 Jan 2002 14:17:14 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In a recent -questions thread, a Linux refugee gave up trying to determine how to set the clock. (There are two of them which may be set, but I'll leave the issue related to that for a PR.) It's not documented in the Handbook or FAQ, "make -k clock" is no help, and "make -k time" gives 840 words in 80 lines that few will find "date" in. I'm wondering whether such things should be documented in the Handbook. Several posters seemed to think that he was an idiot for not knowing that "date" sets the clock, either because it's traditional Unix or it's in Unix books or man pages. I seemed to me that an OS Handbook should be like the User's Manuals which (used to?) come with OSes and other software. The man pages are more like the Reference Manual, and the Handbook is more like the User Manual which should even have things like "how to set the clock" or even "how to delete a file". (Even if brief as referring to a man page.) Maybe this should be put in a companion book. Or maybe nobody wants to write all this info and it's best to refer to a commercial book or a few, which ever are most BSD-centric. But even then there probably ought to be a section which handles things which are not standard Unix (BSD or SysV?) or even, someone suggested, a "surprises for Linux users" section. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 14:21:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9E837B402; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:21:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0PMCCx42631; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:12:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:12:12 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201252212.g0PMCCx42631@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swear@blarg.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34220: eject(1) man page needs cleanup Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: eject(1) man page needs cleanup State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Fri Jan 25 14:12:00 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Manual page in question is from a port. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34220 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 14:41:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0C937B402; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020125224115.JBVU26243.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:41:15 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0PMfF079107; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:41:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201252241.g0PMfF079107@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, hrs@freebsd.org Subject: Release documentation for 4.5-RELEASE From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:41:15 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The snapshots for the 4.5-RELEASE release documentation (relnotes, etc.) are now up on my snapshot page: http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/ I've also copied the HTML renditions to the Web site (of course there won't be any inbound links to them yet, /. not withstanding). At this point, I consider the release documentation "frozen"...any non-critical additions will go into the errata file after the release. hrs, I apologize for the last minute changes to the release notes, but you've got a few more left to translate. You'll need to double-commit your translations to RELENG_4 and RELENG_4_5; just send me a diff like usual. Thanks to everyone who's given feedback, text, or translation! Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 15: 4:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E295037B416 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0PN5SD86942; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:05:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C51E685.7090600@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:13:09 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Michael Lucas Subject: Re: Should common/traditional Unix SA tasks be documented? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > In a recent -questions thread, a Linux refugee gave up trying to > determine how to set the clock. (There are two of them which may be > set, but I'll leave the issue related to that for a PR.) It's not > documented in the Handbook or FAQ, "make -k clock" is no help, and "make > -k time" gives 840 words in 80 lines that few will find "date" in. > > I'm wondering whether such things should be documented in the Handbook. > Several posters seemed to think that he was an idiot for not knowing > that "date" sets the clock, either because it's traditional Unix or it's > in Unix books or man pages. > > I seemed to me that an OS Handbook should be like the User's Manuals > which (used to?) come with OSes and other software. The man pages are > more like the Reference Manual, and the Handbook is more like the User > Manual which should even have things like "how to set the clock" or even > "how to delete a file". (Even if brief as referring to a man page.) > Maybe this should be put in a companion book. Or maybe nobody wants to > write all this info and it's best to refer to a commercial book or a > few, which ever are most BSD-centric. But even then there probably > ought to be a section which handles things which are not standard Unix > (BSD or SysV?) or even, someone suggested, a "surprises for Linux users" > section. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > Send it over to Mr FAQ... "How do I set the time on my FreeBSD System" or do we have that already? -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 15:14:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97B137B400 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0PNEVp81351; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:14:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:14:31 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Tom Rhodes Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should common/traditional Unix SA tasks be documented? Message-ID: <20020125181431.A81334@blackhelicopters.org> References: <3C51E685.7090600@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C51E685.7090600@pittgoth.com>; from darklogik@pittgoth.com on Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:13:09PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gee, thanks. :) On my to-do list now, will get to next week hopefully. On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:13:09PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > > In a recent -questions thread, a Linux refugee gave up trying to > > determine how to set the clock. (There are two of them which may be > > set, but I'll leave the issue related to that for a PR.) It's not > > documented in the Handbook or FAQ, "make -k clock" is no help, and "make > > -k time" gives 840 words in 80 lines that few will find "date" in. > > > > I'm wondering whether such things should be documented in the Handbook. > > Several posters seemed to think that he was an idiot for not knowing > > that "date" sets the clock, either because it's traditional Unix or it's > > in Unix books or man pages. > > > > I seemed to me that an OS Handbook should be like the User's Manuals > > which (used to?) come with OSes and other software. The man pages are > > more like the Reference Manual, and the Handbook is more like the User > > Manual which should even have things like "how to set the clock" or even > > "how to delete a file". (Even if brief as referring to a man page.) > > Maybe this should be put in a companion book. Or maybe nobody wants to > > write all this info and it's best to refer to a commercial book or a > > few, which ever are most BSD-centric. But even then there probably > > ought to be a section which handles things which are not standard Unix > > (BSD or SysV?) or even, someone suggested, a "surprises for Linux users" > > section. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > Send it over to Mr FAQ... "How do I set the time on my FreeBSD System" > or do we have that already? > > > -- > Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes > www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front > www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 15:40:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.vub.ac.be (guppy.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8603837B41D for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from fort-knox.rave.org (igwe15.vub.ac.be [134.184.49.15]) by guppy.vub.ac.be (8.9.1b+Sun/3.17.1.ap (guppy)) id AAA18223; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:39:58 +0100 (MET) for Received: (qmail 6059 invoked by uid 1979); 25 Jan 2002 23:40:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jan 2002 23:40:01 -0000 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:40:01 +0100 (CET) From: Wouter Van Hemel To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should common/traditional Unix SA tasks be documented? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: PGP: 0B B4 BC 28 53 62 FE 94 6A 57 EE B8 A6 E2 1B E4 (0xAA5412F0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 25 Jan 2002, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > In a recent -questions thread, a Linux refugee gave up trying to > determine how to set the clock. (There are two of them which may be > set, but I'll leave the issue related to that for a PR.) It's not > documented in the Handbook or FAQ, "make -k clock" is no help, and "make > -k time" gives 840 words in 80 lines that few will find "date" in. > > I'm wondering whether such things should be documented in the Handbook. > Several posters seemed to think that he was an idiot for not knowing > that "date" sets the clock, either because it's traditional Unix or it's > in Unix books or man pages. > > I seemed to me that an OS Handbook should be like the User's Manuals > which (used to?) come with OSes and other software. The man pages are > [...] I agree. I am using unix systems for 4 years now, and sometimes (less and less) I still 'find' commands I didn't know the existance of, or at least I kinda forgot about them. Lost month I discovered 'cal', for instance. Although it wasn't really the most shocking thing that ever happened to me, it surprised me a bit to still discover something I didn't know or remember was there. Besides... there really isn't mentioned anything about 'date' in the handbook? I'd say that _is_ a bit of a shortcoming... wouter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 16:18:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tartarus.telenet-ops.be (tartarus.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A0E37B417 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from z8z7n3 (D5E0165E.kabel.telenet.be [213.224.22.94]) by tartarus.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 16C132186E1 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:18:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000b01c1a5fe$ecefcfa0$5e16e0d5@pandora.be> From: "Eddyhouthuys" To: Subject: Freebsd Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 01:18:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1A607.4E81DD00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1A607.4E81DD00 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0008_01C1A607.4E81DD00" ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C1A607.4E81DD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi=20 Ihave a question i ordered freebsd full version with book but i did not = get eny confirmation that all whas ok,if it is possible can i get a = confirmation? 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I am very intereted in FreeBSD as I adore the programers working on or contributing to this project all over the world. Of course I am a computer fan too, and I also want to contribute something to the excellent operating system. My name is Feng Huajun, 20 years old/China/male, I am studying in university now and I am one of the primary programers working for our school's website, sometimes I also worked as administrater of our server (root,^_^). Our server is runing linux now but I like FreeBSD much more and I had read something about it! It is great! I think I can do some translating for FreeBSD for Chinese computer fans in this holiday and of course I also very happy to do some help in my free time after holiday. May I? and how I can help? Very nice! _________________________________________________________________ ÏíÓÃÊÀ½çÉÏ×î´óµÄ Web µç×ÓÓʼþϵͳ ¡ª¡ª MSN Hotmail¡£ http://www.hotmail.com/cn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 17:14: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4742337B404 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp151-67-151-24.nt01-c3.cpe.charter-ne.com ([24.151.67.151] helo=there) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16UHPM-0006JK-00; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:13:28 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dylan Carlson Reply-To: absinthe@pobox.com Organization: r e t r o v e r t i g o To: Wouter Van Hemel , "Gary W. Swearingen" Subject: Re: Should common/traditional Unix SA tasks be documented? Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 20:13:26 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > less) I still 'find' commands I didn't know the existance of, or at least > I kinda forgot about them. Lost month I discovered 'cal', for instance. > Although it wasn't really the most shocking thing that ever happened to > me, it surprised me a bit to still discover something I didn't know or > remember was there. > I concur. Right now the Handbook assumes a base of knowledge that most newbies are not going to have, and will be painful for them to get. I'd be willing to contribute some novice-level documentation. This would certainly help the "I'm dumping Windows, help me get started with FreeBSD" crowd. Right now, a lot of sites exist for Linux newbies; thus many new-to-Unix users are getting hooked into the chaotic Linuxy way of administration. This is a great opportunity for us to showcase FreeBSD, particularly because we're a bit more solid and elegant in the area of administration and organization than Linux generally is. It would be nice to help people along in learning (really) basic stuff. Some might disagree with me on this, but I think it'd also be helpful to have a "Rosetta Stone" type document to help people who are coming from other *nix platforms a shortcut to commands and syntax to do relatively same things they did on whatever OS they're currently used to. vmstat, for example, varies wildly from platform to platform. Things like this can make FreeBSD disorienting at first for people. Something is better than nothing. I'd be happy to contribute some pages towards this. If a TOC/outline gets built, count me in for at least a section or two. Cheers, -- Dylan Carlson [absinthe@pobox.com] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 20:22:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACD537B400 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 20:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (zbay5-27.fyi.net [206.80.158.27]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0Q4O3D87343; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:24:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C52303C.7090106@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:27:40 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Should common/traditional Unix SA tasks be documented? References: <3C51E685.7090600@pittgoth.com> <20020125181431.A81334@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not a problem, unless you would prefer some kinda patch, but I figured with the amount of work you are doing with the FAQ currently, the last thing you need is a patch of some sorts :) --Tom Rhodes Michael Lucas wrote: >Gee, thanks. :) > >On my to-do list now, will get to next week hopefully. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 25 20:36: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FFC37B402 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 20:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (zbay5-27.fyi.net [206.80.158.27]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0Q4ZhD87363; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:35:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C5232F9.2060704@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:39:21 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: absinthe@pobox.com Cc: Wouter Van Hemel , "Gary W. Swearingen" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should common/traditional Unix SA tasks be documented? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dylan Carlson wrote: A few times the phrase "FreeBSD for Linux users" and "FreeBSD for the newbie" or even "FreeBSD for the Windows user" has been passed around. But after a few good pointers, and a couple of good threads, the project never took shape. Yesterday I kinda threw myself into this project, as a mini-book or article containing information to help the Windows user, the Linux, and *NIX user all togeather began to take shape. Various information lays spread throught the handbook and the site, where, if it was bundled togeather, would make perfect reading materal for any converter. It is, however, a large project, and I have nothing started yet other than ideas, and 3 prs which I wish to take care of first. I should be able to present upon the group, in about 2 weeks time, at least a draft of my work, which will include these three main classes of information. If anyone wishes to make comments, suggestions, or contribute to this project, please inform me! Thanks alot to any and all who read this :) --Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 26 3:13:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCDE37B402 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 03:13:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 66D8D4B65D; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 03:13:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 03:13:33 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should common/traditional Unix SA tasks be documented? Message-ID: <20020126111333.GT5153@freebsdmall.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:17:14PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > In a recent -questions thread, a Linux refugee gave up trying to > determine how to set the clock. (There are two of them which may be > set, but I'll leave the issue related to that for a PR.) It's not > documented in the Handbook or FAQ, "make -k clock" is no help, and "make > -k time" gives 840 words in 80 lines that few will find "date" in. We should definitely document this in the Handbook somewhere. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 26 6:35:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nic.upatras.gr (nic.upatras.gr [150.140.129.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B26837B402 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 06:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18714 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2002 14:31:55 -0000 Received: from dialup3-ceid-dialinpool-11.upatras.gr (HELO hades.hell.gr) (root@150.140.128.203) by nic.upatras.gr with SMTP; 26 Jan 2002 14:31:55 -0000 Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0QEZ2h21453; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:35:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:35:01 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: feng huajun Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: yes, I want to contribute, may I Message-ID: <20020126143501.GB19793@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-01-26 08:56:54, feng huajun wrote: > > I am very intereted in FreeBSD as I adore the programers working on or > contributing to this project all over the world. Of course I am a computer > fan too, and I also want to contribute something to the excellent operating > system. Hello Feng, Every effort to help in making FreeBSD better is most welcome. Contributions can have many forms. First of all, grab yourself a copy of FreeBSD and install it after you carefully read the installation instructions (you can find out about ways to get FreeBSD, by following the link "Getting FreeBSD" at the left-sidebar of http://www.FreeBSD.org/ -- it leads you to the FreeBSD handbook, http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html). - You can install FreeBSD and see how you like it. Contructive comments on the way things work, are a valuable source of feedback, that the developers will be glad to hear. - Start at http://www.FreeBSD.org/ [the home page of the FreeBSD project] and browse the documentation that is posted there. It should be helpful enough for a newcomer to FreeBSD, otherwise it is a bug in the documentation. One of the articles that are available online, part of the FreeBSD documentation set, is an article called "Contributing to FreeBSD". You can find it at: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing/ This article should give a few pointers that will get you started. I hope this helps, -- Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org} FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 26 7: 0:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A1437B402 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 07:00:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsp-564-omaha.radiks.net ([206.153.216.138] helo=ks1) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16UC45-0005R2-00; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:31:12 -0500 From: niekel@slingshot.com To: zack104@hotmail.com Subject: Legal issues Handled for LESS... 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 26 13:41:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F3137B404; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 13:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0QLeHu49200; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 13:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 13:40:17 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201262140.g0QLeHu49200@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/33926: Search function on website can not access freebsd-questions Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Search function on website can not access freebsd-questions Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: tom Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Jan 26 13:39:16 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: This is a -doc issue. Someone looking after the docs is likely to know why there are problems searching the mailing list archives. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33926 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 26 13:41:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD7C37B402; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 13:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0QLXd648585; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 13:33:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 13:33:39 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201262133.g0QLXd648585@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cerny@spnv.sk, tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34207: [PATCH] wrong path to lsof in handbook section 4.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] wrong path to lsof in handbook section 4.5 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: tom State-Changed-When: Sat Jan 26 13:33:02 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed in revision 1.156 of doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml Thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 26 16:50:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C0737B404 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0R0o0c80871; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FB737B400 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:41:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0R0f9r80050; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:41:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201270041.g0R0f9r80050@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 16:41:09 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Yu To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/34315: AppWatch.com (mentioned in Handbook) is closed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 34315 >Category: docs >Synopsis: AppWatch.com (mentioned in Handbook) is closed >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jan 26 16:50:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eric Yu >Release: >Organization: none >Environment: >Description: In the Handbook, 4.3 "Finding Your Application", AppWatch.com is mentioned. But, now, AppWatch.com is closed, and it is redirected to "a letter to friends and fans of AppWatch" from ZDNet. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Delete it. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message