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>Number:         34328
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] minor corrections to chapter kernelconfig
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
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>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Jan 27 03:50:01 PST 2002
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>Originator:     Martin Heinen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386
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>Description:
	removed a blank,
	removed <filename> from <userinput> line,
        marked up root with <username>,
	put 'ee', 'make world' inside <command>,
	added missing periods,
	made Star Office an application,
	marked up enter with <keycap>
>How-To-Repeat:
	read the kernelconfig chapter
>Fix:

Index: chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.73
diff -u -r1.73 chapter.sgml
--- chapter.sgml	26 Jan 2002 00:20:31 -0000	1.73
+++ chapter.sgml	26 Jan 2002 17:15:30 -0000
@@ -162,10 +162,10 @@
 	<literal>src</literal>, then <literal>sys</literal>.  If you
 	have an aversion to <application>sysinstall</application> and
 	you have access to an <quote>official</quote> FreeBSD CDROM, then
-	you can also install the source from the command line :</para>
+	you can also install the source from the command line:</para>
 
       <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>mount</userinput> /cdrom
-&prompt.root; <userinput>mkdir -p</userinput> <filename>/usr/src/sys</filename>
+&prompt.root; <userinput>mkdir -p</userinput> /usr/src/sys
 &prompt.root; <userinput>ln -s</userinput> /usr/src/sys /sys
 &prompt.root; <userinput>cat /cdrom/sys/ssys.[a-d]* | tar -xzvf</userinput></screen>
     </note>
@@ -206,7 +206,7 @@
 
     <note>
       <para>You must execute these and all of the following commands under
-	the root account or you will get <errortype>permission
+	the <username>root</username> account or you will get <errortype>permission
 	denied</errortype> errors.</para>
     </note>
 
@@ -215,7 +215,7 @@
       will probably be <command>vi</command>, which is too complex to
       explain here, but is covered well in many books in the <link
       linkend="bibliography">bibliography</link>.  However, FreeBSD does
-      offer an easier editor called <quote>ee</quote> which, if you are a
+      offer an easier editor called <command>ee</command> which, if you are a
       beginner, should be your editor of choice.  Feel free to change the
       comment lines at the top to reflect your configuration or the
       changes you have made to differentiate it from
@@ -256,7 +256,7 @@
       <listitem>
 	<para>If you are running a FreeBSD version prior to 4.0, and you are
 	  <emphasis>not</emphasis> upgrading to FreeBSD 4.0 or higher using
-	  the <quote>make world</quote> procedure, use procedure 1.</para>
+	  the <command>make world</command> procedure, use procedure 1.</para>
       </listitem>
 
       <listitem>
@@ -266,8 +266,8 @@
       </listitem>
 
       <listitem>
-	<para>If you are rebuilding the kernel as part of a <quote>make
-	    world</quote> process, use procedure 2.</para>
+	<para>If you are rebuilding the kernel as part of a <command>make
+	    world</command> process, use procedure 2.</para>
       </listitem>
     </itemizedlist>
     
@@ -305,7 +305,7 @@
 	way</title>
       
       <step>
-	<para>Change to the <filename>/usr/src</filename> directory</para>
+	<para>Change to the <filename>/usr/src</filename> directory.</para>
 	
 	<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>cd /usr/src</userinput></screen>
       </step>
@@ -327,7 +327,7 @@
       <para>In FreeBSD 4.2 and older you must replace
         <literal>KERNCONF=</literal> with <literal>KERNEL=</literal>.
         4.2-STABLE that was fetched after Feb 2nd, 2001 does
-        recognize <literal>KERNCONF=</literal></para>
+        recognize <literal>KERNCONF=</literal>.</para>
     </note>
 
     <indexterm>
@@ -737,8 +737,8 @@
 options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING</programlisting>
 
     <para>Real-time extensions added in the 1993 POSIX.  Certain
-      applications in the ports collection use these (such as Star
-      Office).</para>
+      applications in the ports collection use these (such as <application>Star
+      Office</application>).</para>
 
     <indexterm>
       <primary>kernel options</primary>
@@ -1021,7 +1021,7 @@
       <literal>device miibus</literal> to the kernel config pulls in
       support for the generic miibus API and all of the PHY drivers,
       including a generic one for PHYs that are not specifically handled
-      by an individual driver</para>
+      by an individual driver.</para>
 
     <programlisting>device          dc         # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
 device          rl         # RealTek 8129/8139
@@ -1303,7 +1303,7 @@
 	    an excellent mechanism for recovering from incompatible
 	    kernels.  Simply choose the kernel you want to boot from at
 	    the FreeBSD boot loader. You can access this when the system
-	    counts down from 10.  Hit any key except for the enter key,
+	    counts down from 10.  Hit any key except for <keycap>Enter</keycap>,
             type <command>unload</command> and then type
 	    <command>boot
 	    <replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable></command>, or the
@@ -1381,4 +1381,3 @@
      sgml-parent-document: ("../book.sgml" "part" "chapter")
      End:
 -->
-
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On 2002-01-21 17:47 -0500, Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org> wro=
te:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 09:53:13PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 02:08:00PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote:
> > > I suggest that we create a Handbook section called something like
> > > "Living with FreeBSD" that contains small, catch-all tutorials.
> > > Thoughts?
> >=20
> > Why not create a new top-level book for it?
>=20
> The "Miscellaneous FreeBSD Cra^H^H^HStuff Guide?"
>=20
> I suppose we could.  I'd personally prefer a single book with
> everything in it, but will obey the consensus of the group.

Well, in Message-ID: <20020119200120.A46175@blackhelicopters.org> you
talk about a document full of nothing but topics/questions and pointers
to answers.  It seems to me that if the answer were sufficiently
concise, then it could be placed directly in that document, in addition
to or in lieu of pointers to further information.

I understand the need for such an index document.  There is a wealth of
FreeBSD information in the FAQ, Handbook, Committer's Guide, articles,
books, manual pages, O'Reillynet articles, Daemon News articles,
hardcopy books, graphics, ascii art, and also a few hundred web sites,
some of it very difficult to find despite its potential utility to many
FreeBSD users.

The Documentation Project seems the logical organization to provide an
index of pointers to and within these resources.  Instead of "jumbo
FAQ", though, perhaps the FreeBSD Documentation Index would be a better,
and sufficiently pretentious, name.  Is this the kind of thing you were
talking about, Michael?

Greg
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>Number:         34330
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] chapter disk: added a link to kernel building
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
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>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Jan 27 06:10:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Martin Heinen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
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>Description:
	The section 'Using Data CDs' gives advice to include
	the SCSI_DELAY option and rebuild the kernel.  Added
	a link to the appropiate section in the handbook.
>How-To-Repeat:
	read the section on data CDs in the Storage chapter.
>Fix:

Index: chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.75
diff -u -r1.75 chapter.sgml
--- chapter.sgml	22 Jan 2002 17:16:44 -0000	1.75
+++ chapter.sgml	27 Jan 2002 13:57:37 -0000
@@ -981,7 +981,7 @@
       <para>Sometimes, a SCSI CDROM may be missed because it didn't
 	have enough time to answer the bus reset.  If you have a SCSI
 	CDROM please add the following option to your kernel
-	configuration and rebuild your kernel.</para>
+	configuration and <link linkend="kernelconfig-building">rebuild your kernel</link>.</para>
 
       <programlisting>options SCSI_DELAY=15000</programlisting>
 
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34315; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Hiten Pandya <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Cc: ericyu@mail2000.com.tw
Subject: Re: docs/34315: AppWatch.com is closed [PATCH]
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:36:57 +0000

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 Thanks Eric,
 
 I am submitting this patch which will resolve this issue. Also
 some markup fixes and line wrapping problems have been fixed.
 
 thanks,
 regards,
 
  - Hiten
  - <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
 
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 @@ -240,12 +240,10 @@
 =20
        <listitem>
  	<para>If you do not know the name of the application you want, try
 -	  using a site like FreshMeat
 -	  (<ulink url=3D"http://www.freshmeat.net/">http://www.freshmeat.net/</ul=
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 k>)
 -	  to find an application, then check back at the FreeBSD site to see
 -	  if the application has been ported yet.</para>
 +	  using a site like=20
 +	  <ulink url=3D"http://www.freshmeat.net/">FreshMeat</ulink> to find=20
 +	  an application, then check back at the FreeBSD site to see if the=20
 +	  application has been ported yet.</para>
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Hi folks, 

I'm referrring to: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859- 
1/books/handbook/userppp.html#USERPPP-DYNAMICIP 

Look for this: 

The last argument (0.0.0.0) tells PPP to start negotiations using address 
0.0.0.0 rather than 10.0.0.1 and is necessary for some ISPs. Do not use 
0.0.0.0 as the first argument to set ifaddr as it prevents PPP from  
setting up an initial route in -auto mode. 

But in the example line given immediately above, there is no 0.0.0.0 
shown.  It is: 

17      set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.255 

There is however, a 0.0.0.0 given on line 17 for 16.2.1.5.1 PPP and Static 
IP Addresses: 

17      set ifaddr x.x.x.x y.y.y.y 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 


Perhaps the paragraph in question should be changed to this. I have put my 
changes within "quotes" to make them stand out. 

"In the example code for the static IP addresses," the last argument 
(0.0.0.0) tells PPP to start negotiations using address 0.0.0.0 rather 
than 10.0.0.1 and is necessary for some ISPs. "For dynamic IP addresses," 
do not use 0.0.0.0 as the first argument to set ifaddr as it prevents PPP 
from setting up an initial route in -auto mode. 

I think that would make things clearer. 
-- 
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>Number:         34344
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] Warp 'Creating a Swapfile' in <example>
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Jan 27 10:20:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Martin Heinen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD Moses.earth.sol 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Sat Dec 22 07:35:30 CET 2001 toor@Moses.earth.sol:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOSES i386


	
>Description:
	The section 'Adding Swap Space' describes how to create
	swapfiles.  This seems to be very important information,
	so I wrapped this into an <example>.
        If the patch gets committed, I'll fix whitespace damage
	done with another patch.
>How-To-Repeat:
	Read the section on Adding Swap Space in Configuration and Tuning
>Fix:

Index: chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.37
diff -u -r1.37 chapter.sgml
--- chapter.sgml	23 Jan 2002 11:59:32 -0000	1.37
+++ chapter.sgml	27 Jan 2002 17:54:40 -0000
@@ -1156,44 +1156,49 @@
 	<filename>/usr/swap0</filename>.  You can use any name you
 	want, of course.</para>
 
-      <para>First, be certain that your kernel configuration includes
-	the vnode driver.  It is not in recent versions of
-	GENERIC.</para>
-
-      <programlisting>pseudo-device   vn 1   #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device)</programlisting>
+      <example>
+	<title>Creating a Swapfile</title>
 
       <orderedlist>
+        <listitem>
+          <para>Be certain that your kernel configuration includes
+	    the vnode driver.  It is <emphasis>not</emphasis> in recent versions of
+	    <filename>GENERIC</filename>.</para>
+
+          <programlisting>pseudo-device   vn 1   #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device)</programlisting>
+        </listitem>
+
 	<listitem>
-	  <para>create a vn-device</para>
+	  <para>Create a vn-device:</para>
 	  <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>cd /dev</userinput> &prompt.root; <userinput>sh MAKEDEV vn0</userinput></screen>
 	</listitem>
 
 	<listitem>
-	  <para>create a swapfile (<filename>/usr/swap0</filename>)</para>
+	  <para>Create a swapfile (<filename>/usr/swap0</filename>):</para>
 
 	  <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>dd if=/dev/zero of=/usr/swap0 bs=1024k count=64</userinput></screen>
 	</listitem>
 
 	<listitem>
-	  <para>set proper permissions on (<filename>/usr/swap0</filename>)</para>
+	  <para>Set proper permissions on (<filename>/usr/swap0</filename>)</para>
 
 	  <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>chmod 0600 /usr/swap0</userinput></screen>
 	</listitem>
 
 	<listitem>
-	  <para>enable the swap file in <filename>/etc/rc.conf</filename></para>
+	  <para>Enable the swap file in <filename>/etc/rc.conf</filename>:</para>
 
 	  <programlisting>swapfile="/usr/swap0"   # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired.</programlisting>
 	</listitem>
 
 	<listitem>
-	  <para>reboot the machine</para>
+	  <para>Reboot the machine or to enable the swap file immediately,
+	    type:</para>
+
+          <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>vnconfig -e /dev/vn0b /usr/swap0 swap</userinput></screen>
 	</listitem>
       </orderedlist>
-
-      <para>To enable the swap file immediately, type</para>
-
-      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>vnconfig -e /dev/vn0b /usr/swap0 swap</userinput></screen>
+      </example>
     </sect2>
   </sect1>
 </chapter>
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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Synopsis: [PATCH] section 12.7.1.1.4 (spelling mistake) in Handbook

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I agree with your reasoning, your patch has been applied.  Thanks!

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Gregory Sutter <gsutter@zer0.org> writes:

> I understand the need for such an index document.  There is a wealth of
> FreeBSD information in the FAQ, Handbook, Committer's Guide, articles,
> books, manual pages, O'Reillynet articles, Daemon News articles,
> hardcopy books, graphics, ascii art, and also a few hundred web sites,
> some of it very difficult to find despite its potential utility to many
> FreeBSD users.
> 
> The Documentation Project seems the logical organization to provide an
> index of pointers to and within these resources.  Instead of "jumbo
> FAQ", though, perhaps the FreeBSD Documentation Index would be a better,
> and sufficiently pretentious, name.  Is this the kind of thing you were
> talking about, Michael?

I have thought that the best way to handle such a massive and
maintenance-intensive project, would be to have a Wiki
(http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki) for it.  Let users add and fix links as
they will (subject to a team of monitors, mainly to back out vandalism).
But that would be a large project in itself and there are legal risks.

I think it's vital to have the navigation of such information be guided
by hand-edited indexes and/or keyword associations (as opposed to raw
searches), but when it comes to things like the Handbook and man pages,
something automated would be very helpful, though with a Wiki and lots
of helpful users, it might not be necessary.  Rich Morin's Meta Project
(http://cantaforda.com/Meta/) has some very interesting stuff which uses
both automation and hand-editing.

P.S.
I had a large Linux index (which I (barely) started to FreeBSD-ize
at eupedia.org) before they became common commercial enterprises, and
learned how fast links go bad.  (I guess the FreeBSD Project stuff
should be stable enough.)  I came to the conclusion that I need to
develop a tool to ease link maintanence (and creation) before messing
further with it.  Existing free tools are inadequate.  I'm planning a
mostly-Python thing that will include the maintenance tools as part
of a program that will serve pages to either a Web browser (for local
use) or a Web server (for use on WWW).  I'll start without a RDBMS
(for easier installation), and see how much I miss it.  Maybe have it
generate "diffs" so people can send me entries they've added to theirs.
It will have both indexes and a keyword search field which normally
brings up only eupedia-based info (entries like definitions or
hand-edited (and/or constructed-by-keywords-match) subindex pages).

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From kuriyama@jp.FreeBSD.org  Mon Jan 28 12:32:36 2002
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From: Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@jp.FreeBSD.org>
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To: kuriyama@jp.FreeBSD.org
Subject: doc/www build failure report

o doc building failed with log:
============================================================
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/filtering-bridges
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fonts
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/ipsec-must
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mh
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/multi-os
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/new-users
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/programming-tools
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/pxe
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/serial-uart
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/solid-state
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/storage-devices
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vinum
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/zip-drive
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/books
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/corp-net-guide
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/design-44bsd
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ppp-primer
===> de_DE.ISO8859-1
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*** Error code 1

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*** Error code 1

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*** Error code 1

Stop in /pub/tmp/kuriyama/ncvs/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /pub/tmp/kuriyama/ncvs/doc.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /home/kuriyama/build.

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On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 12:35:21PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote:
> /usr/local/bin/openjade:/pub/tmp/kuriyama/ncvs/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml:176:8:E: end tag for "PART" which is not finished
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /pub/tmp/kuriyama/ncvs/doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1/books/handbook.
> *** Error code 1

Sorry for that, there were some changes in the German tree
and the Makefile was lost during the cross commit :(
Alex will commit the correct Makefile.

Martin

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On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 03:51:39AM -0800, Gregory Sutter wrote:
> On 2002-01-21 17:47 -0500, Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org> wrote:
> Well, in Message-ID: <20020119200120.A46175@blackhelicopters.org> you
> talk about a document full of nothing but topics/questions and pointers
> to answers.  It seems to me that if the answer were sufficiently
> concise, then it could be placed directly in that document, in addition
> to or in lieu of pointers to further information.
> 
> I understand the need for such an index document.  There is a wealth of
> FreeBSD information in the FAQ, Handbook, Committer's Guide, articles,
> books, manual pages, O'Reillynet articles, Daemon News articles,
> hardcopy books, graphics, ascii art, and also a few hundred web sites,
> some of it very difficult to find despite its potential utility to many
> FreeBSD users.
> 
> The Documentation Project seems the logical organization to provide an
> index of pointers to and within these resources.  Instead of "jumbo
> FAQ", though, perhaps the FreeBSD Documentation Index would be a better,
> and sufficiently pretentious, name.  Is this the kind of thing you were
> talking about, Michael?


Something like that, yes.  I would say we should only link to our own
documents, for reasons pointed out elsewhere in this thread.  Although
I have a vested interest in onlamp.com, I don't want to maintain an
index linking to them, BSDzine, daemonnews, etc, etc, etc.

Once we gain experience in indexing our own docs, we could expand it
to other sites, but let's start small.  :) Once we do that we'd need
some infrastructure to automatically notice and find bad links, for
example.  (I'm sure one of you web developers have programs sitting
around to do exactly that, but we'd want to make it project process to
use them on a, say, weekly basis.)

I have to admit that I don't like the idea of putting answers in an
index.  That's not what an index is for.  But the FreeBSD
Documentation Index sounds sufficiently weighty.

-- 
Michael Lucas		mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org
my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons

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On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 09:25:50AM -0800, Akira Shiozaki wrote:
> Port description for sysutils/mkisofs
>  
> Port description for sysutils/mkisofs
> The port specified does not exist, or has an invalid name: 
> 
> 
>   ports/sysutils/mkisofs/pkg-descr
> You are coming from 
> 
>   http://www%2efreebsd%2eorg/doc/en%5fUS%2eISO8859%2d1/books/handbook/creating%2dcds%2ehtml. 
> 
> Please contact www@freebsd.org 

Yes, this is a known problem, and there is a FreeBSD Problem Report
open for it - http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32468
The problem stems from a subtle deficiency in the FreeBSD documentation
system, which does not known how to deal with master/slave ports yet,
or how to point to a port by actually referencing a different port with
a different description file :(

G'luck,
Peter

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Current FreeBSD problem reports

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Bugs can be in one of several states:

o - open
     A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed.

a - analyzed
     The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated.

f - feedback
     The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a
     patch or a fix has been committed.  The PR remains in this state
     pending a response from the originator.

s - suspended
     The problem is not being worked on.  This is a prime candidate
     for somebody who is looking for a project to do.
     If the problem cannot be solved at all,
     it will be closed, rather than suspended.

c - closed
     A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated,
     documented, and tested.

Critical problems
Serious problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
s [2000/07/18] docs/20028  doc      ASCII docs should reflect <emphasis> tags
o [2001/05/23] docs/27605  doc      Cross-document references (<olink>)
o [2001/10/14] docs/31265  doc      crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allo

3 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [2000/08/10] docs/20528  doc      sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix.
s [2000/11/01] docs/22470  doc      man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin
o [2001/02/01] docs/24786  doc      missing FILES descriptions in sa(4)
o [2001/04/02] docs/26286  doc      *printf(3) etc should gain format string 
o [2001/05/25] docs/27653  doc      Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME
o [2001/05/26] docs/27654  doc      Update to PR 27653
o [2001/06/06] docs/27915  doc      man 5 passwd does not properly explain th
o [2001/06/30] docs/28555  doc      [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo
o [2001/07/04] docs/28699  doc      strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl
o [2001/07/22] docs/29143  doc      List of man pages that need to be written
o [2001/07/26] docs/29245  doc      top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP
f [2001/08/09] docs/29571  doc      [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct
a [2001/08/23] docs/30008  doc      This document should be translated, comme
o [2001/09/08] docs/30442  doc      remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro
o [2001/09/13] docs/30556  doc      vnconfig man page incorrect; functionalit
o [2001/09/15] docs/30603  doc      physio(9) is internally inconsistent
o [2001/09/24] docs/30809  doc      fdisk(8) cleanup
o [2001/09/27] docs/30873  doc      ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord
o [2001/10/07] docs/31109  doc      replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat
o [2001/10/09] docs/31164  doc      man page for strftime is incorrect
a [2001/10/14] docs/31271  doc      rl(4) discourages vender openness by disp
o [2001/10/30] docs/31640  doc      Avoiding uppercase program names in manpa
o [2001/10/30] docs/31653  doc      Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content
o [2001/11/15] docs/32020  doc      loader.8 manpage missing tunables
o [2001/11/16] docs/32041  doc      Add point about net.inet.tcp.portange.{fi
o [2001/11/16] docs/32054  doc      inconsistency between index.3 and rindex.
a [2001/11/26] docs/32323  doc      man page `named(8)' do not have link for 
o [2001/11/29] docs/32373  doc      Bad ifconfig(8) alias advice in FAQ 10.9
o [2001/12/01] docs/32425  doc      Document cvs update `P file' output
o [2001/12/02] docs/32451  doc      Missing images in vm-design article
o [2001/12/02] docs/32463  doc      ifconfig(8) missing address_family defaul
o [2001/12/03] docs/32468  doc      broken link in handbook: sysutils/mkisofs
s [2001/12/07] docs/32578  doc      A _really_ petty change to the front page
o [2001/12/10] docs/32674  doc      no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca
o [2001/12/13] docs/32825  doc      undocumented options in LINT
o [2001/12/16] docs/32901  doc      Misleading statement about "X Windows"
o [2001/12/20] docs/33042  doc      Minor changes to Chapter 2 of the handboo
f [2001/12/25] docs/33164  doc      New section for 'Storage' chapter of hand
o [2001/12/30] docs/33354  doc      no rsync section in mirror chapter of the
o [2002/01/05] docs/33585  doc      Possible Errata in ntp.conf.5 manpage
o [2002/01/05] docs/33586  doc      An errata in ntp.keys.5 manpage
o [2002/01/05] docs/33589  doc      Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process .
o [2002/01/07] docs/33639  doc      ping(8) and ping6(8) are silent about SIG
o [2002/01/07] docs/33654  doc      openssl(1) contains many broken SEE ALSO 
o [2002/01/13] docs/33852  doc      split(1) man page implies that input file
o [2002/01/14] docs/33877  doc      Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non-
o [2002/01/14] docs/33907  doc      dump(8) man page is misleading in nodump 
o [2002/01/15] misc/33926  doc      Search function on website can not access
o [2002/01/16] docs/33937  doc      Add a timezone related hint to make world
o [2002/01/17] docs/34005  doc      mmap man page description of ENOMEM is am
o [2002/01/18] docs/34038  doc      [NEW ARTICLE] Upgrading a.out to Elf
o [2002/01/18] docs/34047  doc      [PATCH] function dev_depends() is referre
o [2002/01/19] docs/34074  doc      Handbook section 12.3 -- Adding Disks inc
o [2002/01/20] docs/34088  doc      a.out(5) fails to explain what bss is
o [2002/01/21] docs/34137  doc      [PATCH] Kernel config chapter in handbook
o [2002/01/22] docs/34166  doc      [patch] FAQ uses informal "How come..." i
o [2002/01/22] docs/34184  doc      Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" synta
o [2002/01/23] docs/34209  doc      more difficult way of searching for a por
o [2002/01/23] docs/34222  doc      head(1) man page has erroneous SYNOPSIS.
o [2002/01/23] docs/34224  doc      chmod(1) man page confuses original mode 
o [2002/01/24] docs/34234  doc      restore(8) man page doesn't explain rrest
o [2002/01/24] docs/34239  doc      tunefs(8) man page doesn't describe argum
o [2002/01/24] docs/34244  doc      link to estonian documentation project is
o [2002/01/24] docs/34248  doc      dump(8) man page block/record/other clari
o [2002/01/26] docs/34315  doc      AppWatch.com (mentioned in Handbook) is c
o [2002/01/27] docs/34328  doc      [PATCH] minor corrections to chapter kern
o [2002/01/27] docs/34330  doc      [PATCH] chapter disk: added a link to ker
o [2002/01/27] docs/34344  doc      [PATCH] Warp 'Creating a Swapfile' in <ex

68 problems total.


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Synopsis: more difficult way of searching for a port's path in handbook section 4.5.2

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State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 28 11:12:13 PST 2002
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Andrew's patch has been applied, fixing this issue.  It will be on
the website the next time it rebuilds, thanks!

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>Number:         34391
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] handbook boot chapter requires touchup
>Confidential:   yes
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Jan 28 15:20:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5 i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD localhost 4.5

>Description:
By request, I have added a bit more information to the boot chapter.
The enclosed patch will add information about doing multi-boot of FreeBSD and the
Linux operating system.  Eventually, I will touch this chapter up again to have
information on dualbooting Windows/FreeBSD.

--Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes

>How-To-Repeat:
>Fix:






*** chapter.sgml.old	Mon Jan 28 17:32:42 2002
--- chapter.sgml	Mon Jan 28 18:16:20 2002
***************
*** 155,160 ****
--- 155,183 ----
  	disk, <devicename>ad2</devicename> for the first IDE disk on a second
  	IDE controller, <devicename>da0</devicename> for the first SCSI disk,
  	and so on.</para>
+ 
+        <para>If you are a Linux user, however, and prefer that <application>LILO</application>
+          control the boot process, you can edit the <filename>/etc/lilo.conf</filename>
+          file for FreeBSD, or select <option>Leave The Master Boot Record Untouched</option>
+          during the FreeBSD installation process.  If you have installed the
+          the FreeBSD boot manager, you can boot back into Linux and modify the
+          <application>LILO</application> configuration file
+          <filename>/etc/lilo.conf</filename> and add the following option:</para>
+       <programlisting>
+ other=/dev/hdXY
+ table=/dev/hdb
+ loader=/boot/chain.b
+ label=FreeBSD
+       </programlisting>
+         <para>which will permit the booting of FreeBSD and Linux via <application>LILO</application>.
+           In our example, we use <replaceable>XY</replaceable> to determine drive number
+           and partition.  If you are using a <acronym>SCSI</acronym> drive, you will want
+           to change <replaceable>/dev/hdXY</replaceable> to read something similar to
+           <replaceable>/dev/sdXY</replaceable>, which again uses the <replaceable>XY</replaceable>
+           syntax.  The <option>loader=/boot/chain.b</option> can be omitted if you have
+           both operating systems on the same drive.  You can now run
+           <command>/sbin/lilo -v</command> to commit your new changes to the system,
+           this should be verified with screen messages.</para>
      </sect2>
    
      <sect2 id="boot-boot1">
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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Synopsis: [PATCH] handbook boot chapter requires touchup

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Committed with some minor formatting changes.  Thanks!

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Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@mobil.cz> writes:

> > From: Brian Astill <bastill@sa.apana.org.au>
> > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: A question from a convert from Windows to FreeBSD
> > Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:09:13 +1030
> > 
> > On Saturday 26 January 2002 17:34, Chris Fedde wrote:
> > > You might want to submit a patch to the FreeBSD Documentation project.
> > 
> > Want? - Yes.  Be capable of? - No.
> 
>     Sure you are capable of submitting patches to man pages. Here's a
>     short howto:
> 
>     1. step: find the source file:

I suggest: 

$ man -wa passwd
/usr/share/man/cat1/passwd.1.gz (source: /usr/share/man/man1/passwd.1.gz)
/usr/share/man/man5/passwd.5.gz

And you might find this crummy script useful, at least the two echo
lines near the bottom. (It'll probably work with first line changed to
"sh" too).


#!/bin/ksh
##  This is ~/bin/prepare-man-for-pr
##  Usage: prepare-man-for-pr [section number] command [section number]

##  Comments use the example of shutdown command.
##  WARNING: script makes bad assumption that all pages are compressed to .gz

cd /tmp

man -wa $@
echo "NOTICE: Check to see if it's a port (so no PR)."
whereis $@

MANPAGE=$(man -w $@)
    ##  Makes "/usr/share/man/man8/shutdown.8.gz".
MANPAGE=${MANPAGE##* }
MANPAGE=${MANPAGE%)}
XXX=${MANPAGE##*/}
    ##  Makes "shutdown.8.gz".
NEW=${XXX%.*}
    ##  Makes "shutdown.8".
BEG=${NEW%.*}
    ##  Makes "shutdown".
END=${NEW##*.}
    ##  Makes "8".
OLD=$BEG..orig.$END
rm -i /tmp/$XXX /tmp/$NEW /tmp/$OLD ## 2> /dev/null
    ##  Remove "shutdown.8.gz", "shutdown.8" and "orig-shutdown.8" with query.
zcat $MANPAGE > $OLD
    ##  So we have somthing like "/tmp/shutdown.8".
cp -p $OLD $NEW
    ##  So we have something like "/tmp/shutdown.8" and "/tmp/orig-shutdown.8".
echo "groff -mandoc -Tlatin1 /tmp/$NEW | less"
echo "diff -u /tmp/$OLD /tmp/$NEW >|/tmp/diffpr"
    ##  So it can be opened with mouse and for diffing after editing.

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After a bit of chatting with Diane Bruce on the usual IRC place, I've
rolled a small script that checks www/en/news/press.xml for dead
links.  You can see how I try to test the links semi-automatically at
the script's source
[ http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/scripts/deadlink.sh ]

Those links that are marked in the logfile created as FAILED, I try to
check with a browser too, just in case fetch(1) fails but the page is
still there.  The recent commits to www/en/news/press.xml are a result
of running this and verifying that the links are broken.

Some of the articles referenced are still there, but have been moved
by the site owners to their "archives".  When I cna find an article in
these archives, I just update the link.  For those links that I remove
with "Cannot be found, even if I search the archives of the site" feel
free to correct me by reviving the article links and updating the
links, if you happen to find the correct pointer.

Cheers,

--=20
Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org}
FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/
FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/

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Compliments of the day.  I Am a Bank Manager of ORIENT
BANK OF NIGERIA, Lagos Branch.

On June 6 1997, an American oil consultant/contractor
with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, Mr.
Barry Kelly made a numbered time (Fixed) deposited for
twelve calendar months, valued at US$25,000,000.00
(Twenty-five Million Dollars) in my branch. Upon
maturity, I sent a routine notification to his
forwarding address but got no reply.  After a month,
we sent a reminder and finally we discovered from his
contract employers, Nigerian National Petroleum
Corporation that Mr. Barry Kelly died from an
automobile accident. On further investigation, I found
out that he did not leave a WILL and all attempts to
trace his next of kin were fruitless. I therefore made
further investigation and discovered that Mr. Barry
Kelly did not declare any next of kin in all his
official documents, including his Bank Deposit
paperwork. This sum of US$25,000,000.00 is still
sitting in the Bank and the interest is being rolled
over with the principal sum at the end of each year.
No one will come forward to claim it. According to the
Nigerian Law, at the expiration of 5 (five) years, the
money will revert to the ownership of the Nigerian
Government if nobody applies to claim the funds.

Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a
foreigner to stand in as the next
of kin to Mr. Barry Kelly so that the fruits of this
old man's labor will not get into the hands of some
corrupt officials. This is simple I will like you to
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address so that the attorney will prepare the
necessary documents and affidavits, which will put you
in place as the next of kin. We shall employ the
services of two attorneys for drafting and
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documents and letter of probate/administration in your
favour the transfer. A bank account in any part of the
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us to share in the ratio of 60% for me and 40% for
you. There is no risk at all as all the paperwork for
this transaction will be done by the attorney and my
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understand. Please observe utmost confidentiality, and
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assistance to invest my share in your country.
Awaiting
your urgent reply via email.  

Thanks and regards .

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hi,

This reminds me that Wolfram did a backup copies of press artiles
and stored them somethere in case if owner's site was down
or article gone. But this is almost two years old memories. And
I not sure did he told about idea or he actually did it.

Wolfram, any comments ?

Anyway, it could be good to resurrect or implement this idea into
life now. (IMHO)

On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 08:20:18AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> After a bit of chatting with Diane Bruce on the usual IRC place, I've
> rolled a small script that checks www/en/news/press.xml for dead
> links.  You can see how I try to test the links semi-automatically at
> the script's source
> [ http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/scripts/deadlink.sh ]
> 
> Those links that are marked in the logfile created as FAILED, I try to
> check with a browser too, just in case fetch(1) fails but the page is
> still there.  The recent commits to www/en/news/press.xml are a result
> of running this and verifying that the links are broken.
> 
> Some of the articles referenced are still there, but have been moved
> by the site owners to their "archives".  When I cna find an article in
> these archives, I just update the link.  For those links that I remove
> with "Cannot be found, even if I search the archives of the site" feel
> free to correct me by reviving the article links and updating the
> links, if you happen to find the correct pointer.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- 
> Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org}
> FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/
> FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/



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From owner-freebsd-doc  Tue Jan 29  3: 9:12 2002
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From: Wolfram Schneider <wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de>
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Joseph Koshy <jkoshy@FreeBSD.org> is our "In the Press Editor".
He is responsible for the press service http://www.freebsd.org/news/press.html

Please contact him for questions regarding the press service
and press archive.

-Wolfram


On 2002-01-29 11:00:45 +0200, Alexey Zelkin wrote:
> hi,
> 
> This reminds me that Wolfram did a backup copies of press artiles
> and stored them somethere in case if owner's site was down
> or article gone. But this is almost two years old memories. And
> I not sure did he told about idea or he actually did it.
> 
> Wolfram, any comments ?
> 
> Anyway, it could be good to resurrect or implement this idea into
> life now. (IMHO)
> 
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 08:20:18AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > After a bit of chatting with Diane Bruce on the usual IRC place, I've
> > rolled a small script that checks www/en/news/press.xml for dead
> > links.  You can see how I try to test the links semi-automatically at
> > the script's source
> > [ http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/scripts/deadlink.sh ]
> > 
> > Those links that are marked in the logfile created as FAILED, I try to
> > check with a browser too, just in case fetch(1) fails but the page is
> > still there.  The recent commits to www/en/news/press.xml are a result
> > of running this and verifying that the links are broken.
> > 
> > Some of the articles referenced are still there, but have been moved
> > by the site owners to their "archives".  When I cna find an article in
> > these archives, I just update the link.  For those links that I remove
> > with "Cannot be found, even if I search the archives of the site" feel
> > free to correct me by reviving the article links and updating the
> > links, if you happen to find the correct pointer.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > -- 
> > Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org}
> > FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/
> > FreeBSD: The power to serve . . . . http://www.freebsd.org/
> 
> 

-- 
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This isn't strictly a docs issue, but that's my interest, so I'll post
it here.  I'd like to see FreeBSD add in some of the 32V materials
that Caldera has now released.  Specifically, I'd like to have all of
the supplementary documents online, as well as the source code and man
pages for some commands that got lost in the lawsuit (e.g., diction,
spell, style).  How can we make this happen?

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Hello,
 
I'm writing to inform you about a new BSD user group. This is the web
site of BSD user group of Yugoslavia: http://www.BSD.org.yu/
 
This is a little blurb that you can put up on your web site:
 
<a href="http://www.bsd.org.yu">BSD User-group of Yugoslavia</a>
provides a open forum for all things BSD in Serbian language. To join
the mailing list send mail to majordomo@bsd.org.yu with "subscribe
bsdyu" in the body of the message.
 
 
Thanks,
 
--Alex

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I am looking for the contents list of the freeBSD OS. I am trying to compare
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>Number:         34418
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] New User group
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue Jan 29 10:10:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5 i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD localhost 4.5

>Description:
As posted on the mailing list, a new usergroup in Yugoslavia
sprung up, and they sent the -doc list an email.  The provided diff will add
the requested information to the www/en/support.sgml file
>How-To-Repeat:
join the -doc list
>Fix:
Apply the patch provided by Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes :)




*** support.sgml.old	Tue Jan 29 13:00:34 2002
--- support.sgml	Tue Jan 29 13:08:27 2002
***************
*** 466,472 ****
        <li><strong>United Kingdom</strong> The <a
  	  href="http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/">FreeBSD UKUG</a> (FreeBSD UK
  	User's Group) exists for the benefit of FreeBSD users in the United
! 	Kingdom.  Please follow the link for details.
  
  	<p></p></li>
      </ul>
--- 466,479 ----
        <li><strong>United Kingdom</strong> The <a
  	  href="http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/">FreeBSD UKUG</a> (FreeBSD UK
  	User's Group) exists for the benefit of FreeBSD users in the United
! 	Kingdom.  Please follow the link for details.</li>
! 
!         <li><strong>Yugoslavia</strong> The <a
!           href="http://www.BSD.org.yu/">Yugoslavia BSD Users Group</a> provides
!           an open forum for all things BSD related in the Serbian language.
!           To join the mailing list, send an email to <a
!           href="mailto:majordomo@bsd.org.yu">majordomo@bsd.org.yu</a> with
!           "subscribe bsdyu" in the message body
  
  	<p></p></li>
      </ul>
>Release-Note:
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>Unformatted:

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Aleksandar Simic' wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> I'm writing to inform you about a new BSD user group. This is the web
> site of BSD user group of Yugoslavia: http://www.BSD.org.yu/
>  
> This is a little blurb that you can put up on your web site:
>  
> <a href="http://www.bsd.org.yu">BSD User-group of Yugoslavia</a>
> provides a open forum for all things BSD in Serbian language. To join
> the mailing list send mail to majordomo@bsd.org.yu with "subscribe
> bsdyu" in the body of the message.
>  
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> --Alex
> 
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> 
> 
> 

Alex, I have submitted a pr and patch to make adding the information 
quicker and easier for the doc team.  You can review this at:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34418

any comments or feedback just send it my way, thanks alot for the 
information!  ;)

-- 
Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes
www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front
www.FreeBSD.org  The Power To Serve


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Committed, thanks!

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  I've added the release engineering article back to the build.
ghostscript-afpl will build this fine, but the ps2epsi program in
ghostscript-gnu has a small buglet that I just got around to patching.
You need to be using one of those to build the article properly. If
your build fails with some weird sed error while making the articles,
this is why. ;)

    - Murray

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Morin" <rdm@cfcl.com>
To: <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:17 PM
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> This isn't strictly a docs issue, but that's my interest, so I'll post
> it here.  I'd like to see FreeBSD add in some of the 32V materials
> that Caldera has now released.  Specifically, I'd like to have all of
> the supplementary documents online, as well as the source code and man
> pages for some commands that got lost in the lawsuit (e.g., diction,
> spell, style).  How can we make this happen?

some months (years ?) later, I've translated some older Makefiles
to BSD ones to be able to build 4.4BSD-lite2 docs and more.
may be they can help ? I have to check the status of them, etc.

Cyrille.
-- 
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On 2002-01-27 18:03 -0800, "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net> wrote:
> Gregory Sutter <gsutter@zer0.org> writes:
>=20
> > I understand the need for such an index document.  There is a wealth of
> > FreeBSD information in the FAQ, Handbook, Committer's Guide, articles,
> > books, manual pages, O'Reillynet articles, Daemon News articles,
> > hardcopy books, graphics, ascii art, and also a few hundred web sites,
> > some of it very difficult to find despite its potential utility to many
> > FreeBSD users.
> >=20
> > The Documentation Project seems the logical organization to provide an
> > index of pointers to and within these resources.  Instead of "jumbo
> > FAQ", though, perhaps the FreeBSD Documentation Index would be a better,
> > and sufficiently pretentious, name.  Is this the kind of thing you were
> > talking about, Michael?
>=20
> I have thought that the best way to handle such a massive and
> maintenance-intensive project, would be to have a Wiki
> (http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki) for it.  Let users add and fix links as
> they will (subject to a team of monitors, mainly to back out vandalism).
> But that would be a large project in itself and there are legal risks.

Wikis are useful for small groups, but they don't scale well to large
efforts.  In addition, for a group that is accustomed to DocBook and
CVS, a Wiki is a good dozen steps backward.  Wikis can't be
automanglically changed into PDF, PS, text, or half a dozen other
formats; their change-control mechanisms are too simple; they can't
be locally edited by multiple developers; and it's yet another=20
markup language to learn, albeit a (too) simplistic one.

I'm not totally dissing WikiWikiWebs; they have their place.  I use
several of them on a regular basis.  But I don't think it's the=20
proper tool for this job.

Greg
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mailto:gsutter@zer0.org             for a day.  Set a man on fire, and he'll
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On 2002-01-28 05:07 -0500, Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org> wro=
te:
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 03:51:39AM -0800, Gregory Sutter wrote:
> >
> > I understand the need for such an index document.  There is a wealth of
> > FreeBSD information in the FAQ, Handbook, Committer's Guide, articles,
> > books, manual pages, O'Reillynet articles, Daemon News articles,
> > hardcopy books, graphics, ascii art, and also a few hundred web sites,
> > some of it very difficult to find despite its potential utility to many
> > FreeBSD users.
> >=20
> > The Documentation Project seems the logical organization to provide an
> > index of pointers to and within these resources.  Instead of "jumbo
> > FAQ", though, perhaps the FreeBSD Documentation Index would be a better,
> > and sufficiently pretentious, name.  Is this the kind of thing you were
> > talking about, Michael?
>=20
> Something like that, yes.  I would say we should only link to our own
> documents, for reasons pointed out elsewhere in this thread.  Although
> I have a vested interest in onlamp.com, I don't want to maintain an
> index linking to them, BSDzine, daemonnews, etc, etc, etc.

So you're saying that you don't want to be
<http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Unix/BSD/>?

By the way, only partially blame me for the content there.  DMOZ is
_barely_ an "Open" directory, as the editorial rules are draconian.
In fact, I've once again lost my editor bit, because I didn't make
an edit in 60 days... I don't think I'll ask for it back this time.

> Once we gain experience in indexing our own docs, we could expand it
> to other sites, but let's start small.  :) Once we do that we'd need
> some infrastructure to automatically notice and find bad links, for

Link checkers are available in the ports collection.  Starting small
(local docs) is a good idea.

Greg
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Jim,

Your best bet for this sort of question is the mailing list
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org.

We don't keep an explicit list of what comes with the OS.  FreeBSD
does support several thousand applications out-of-the-box, including
just about anything that comes with Red Hat Linux.  Our base OS is
very stripped down, lean and mean, allowing you to add what you'd
like.  Red Hat tends to throw just about anything that might be
vaguely useful into the mix.

Hope that helps!

==ml

On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 01:12:58PM -0500, Tim Evans wrote:
> I am looking for the contents list of the freeBSD OS. I am trying to compare
> Red Hat 7.2 and freeBSD 4.4. to see which one fits my needs. Red Hat has a
> list of what is included on their cds. Do you know if you have anything like
> that on your site?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim Evans
> A New Solution, Inc.
> 
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>Number:         34437
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       4.5 Relnotes only lists SiS635 and 735 as chipsets with sis900/7016 ethernet driver
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jan 30 00:50:03 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Hendrik Scholz
>Release:        4.5-RC
>Organization:
NetUSE AG
>Environment:
FreeBSD dionysus.lan.raisdorf.net 4.5-RC FreeBSD 4.5-RC #2: Sat Jan 26 22:39:14 CET 2002     hscholz@dionysus.lan.raisdorf.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/DIONYSUS  i386
    
>Description:
The sis900 ethernet controller is found on the SiS 630 and 630S
chipsets too.
It is working fine here in a notebook with a SiS630 chipset.
>How-To-Repeat:
      
>Fix:
Add (at least the SiS630) to the supported hardware list in section 3.2   
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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===> conspectus/advocacy/2000/11
===> ports
cd /c/www/build/www/en/ports;  make  -f /c/www/build/www/en/ports/Makefile.inc0 all
===> doc
===> doc/articles
===> doc/articles/committers-guide
===> doc/articles/console-server
"html-split" is not a valid output format for this document.
===> doc/articles/contributing
===> doc/articles/contributors
===> doc/articles/cvs-freebsd
===> doc/articles/cvsup-advanced
===> doc/articles/dialup-firewall
===> doc/articles/diskless-x
===> doc/articles/euro
===> doc/articles/explaining-bsd
===> doc/articles/filtering-bridges
===> doc/articles/fonts
===> doc/articles/formatting-media
===> doc/articles/freebsd-questions
===> doc/articles/ipsec-must
===> doc/articles/laptop
===> doc/articles/mh
===> doc/articles/multi-os
===> doc/articles/new-users
===> doc/articles/problem-reports
===> doc/articles/programming-tools
===> doc/articles/pxe
===> doc/articles/releng
groff -p -S -Wall -mtty-char -man branches.pic > branches.ps
/usr/local/bin/ps2epsi branches.ps branches.eps
gs: not found
/usr/local/bin/peps -p -r 100  -o branches.png branches.eps
peps: branches.eps is not a valid EPS file.
*** Error code 4

Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/doc.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /c/www/build/www/en.
      952.53 real       217.96 user        11.71 sys

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>Number:         34448
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] new anoncvs server entry for Handbook
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jan 30 06:50:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Makoto Matsushita
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
Japan FreeBSD Users' Group / The FreeBSD Project
>Environment:

	N/A, only for documentation.

>Description:

	There is a brand-new FreeBSD anoncvs server, named
	`anoncvs.jp.FreeBSD.org'.  It would be great pleasure that
	this server is listed on the FreeBSD Handbook.

	Note that this server, anoncvs.jp.FreeBSD.org, provides both
	IPv4 and IPv6 network connection.

>How-To-Repeat:

	% cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.jp.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs login
	Logging in to :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.jp.freebsd.org:2401/home/ncvs
	CVS password: (type 'anoncvs')
	% cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.jp.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co src
	cvs server: Updating src
	U src/Makefile
	...
	
>Fix:

	Here is a patch for adding an entry.  Even though I'm a
	committer, I don't commit this by myself; I don't know
	anything about doc area, can't verify whether it's OK or not.

Index: chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.188
diff -u -r1.188 chapter.sgml
--- chapter.sgml	25 Jan 2002 05:17:00 -0000	1.188
+++ chapter.sgml	30 Jan 2002 14:32:18 -0000
@@ -1120,6 +1120,12 @@
 	      (rsh, pserver, ssh, ssh/2022)
 	      </para>
 	  </listitem>
+	  <listitem>
+	    <para><emphasis>Japan</emphasis>:
+	      :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.jp.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs
+	      (Use <command>cvs login</command> and enter the password
+	      <quote>anoncvs</quote> when prompted.)</para>
+	  </listitem>
 	</itemizedlist>
 
 	<para>Since CVS allows one to <quote>check out</quote> virtually
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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Synopsis: [PATCH] new anoncvs server entry for Handbook

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Committed, thanks!

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>Number:         34460
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       potential minor error in Developer's Handbook + mem(4) man page
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
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>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jan 30 10:10:04 PST 2002
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>Originator:     Bruce Dang
>Release:        4.4-PRERELEASE i386
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FreeBSD xxxx 4.5-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE #1: Wed Dec 26 19:43:22 EST 2001     root@xxxxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LEET  i386

>Description:
On page 40 of the Developer's Handbook (PDF version), there's something like "will always null terminate the string." Shouldn't this be NUL terinated, instead of NULL (ptr).

In addition to that, the mem(4) man page makes references to <memrange.h> for various #defines, but it is actually <sys/memrange.h> that defines them...
>How-To-Repeat:
- look page 40 of the dev's handbook
- man 4 mem
>Fix:
- change "null" to NUL on p. 40 of the developer's handbook
- change <memrange.h> to <sys/memrange.h> in mem(4) manpage
>Release-Note:
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Hey Tim,

  I've added a limited description of each of the discs on the
official 4 CD-set, as well as a complete file listing for each disc to
our web site.  This is not meant to be marketing literature, but
merely a way for users to tell if component 'FOO' is on one of the
official CDs.

  The web site hasn't been updated yet, but within the next 24 hours
the content will be here :

    http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/4.5R/contents.html

  If you're looking for something comparable to Red Hat, then your
best bet is to pick up one of the retail boxed products at your local
CompUSA.  The "FreeBSD Desktop Edition" is bundled with Partition
Magic and comes with printed documentation, as you would expect from a
Linux retail offering.  You can also purchase this online from
www.freebsdmall.com.

  I hope this helps,

  - Murray

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 02:42:51AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> Your best bet for this sort of question is the mailing list
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org.
> 
> We don't keep an explicit list of what comes with the OS.  FreeBSD
> does support several thousand applications out-of-the-box, including
> just about anything that comes with Red Hat Linux.  Our base OS is
> very stripped down, lean and mean, allowing you to add what you'd
> like.  Red Hat tends to throw just about anything that might be
> vaguely useful into the mix.
> 
> Hope that helps!
> 
> ==ml
> 
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 01:12:58PM -0500, Tim Evans wrote:
> > I am looking for the contents list of the freeBSD OS. I am trying to compare
> > Red Hat 7.2 and freeBSD 4.4. to see which one fits my needs. Red Hat has a
> > list of what is included on their cds. Do you know if you have anything like
> > that on your site?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Tim Evans
> > A New Solution, Inc.
> > 
> > 
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  Hmm... The 'ps2epsi' script installed on freefall is not being run
with the /usr/local/bin set in the PATH.  It seems to me that we
should run this script with /usr/local/bin in the PATH.  The
alternative of adding 'env PATH=/usr/local/bin /usr/local/bin/ps2epsi'
into the makefile seems much uglier.

  Can someone please add this?

       - Murray

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 05:38:43AM -0800, www@FreeBSD.org wrote:
> ===> conspectus/advocacy/2000/11
> ===> ports
> cd /c/www/build/www/en/ports;  make  -f /c/www/build/www/en/ports/Makefile.inc0 all
> ===> doc
> ===> doc/articles
> ===> doc/articles/committers-guide
> ===> doc/articles/console-server
> "html-split" is not a valid output format for this document.
> ===> doc/articles/contributing
> ===> doc/articles/contributors
> ===> doc/articles/cvs-freebsd
> ===> doc/articles/cvsup-advanced
> ===> doc/articles/dialup-firewall
> ===> doc/articles/diskless-x
> ===> doc/articles/euro
> ===> doc/articles/explaining-bsd
> ===> doc/articles/filtering-bridges
> ===> doc/articles/fonts
> ===> doc/articles/formatting-media
> ===> doc/articles/freebsd-questions
> ===> doc/articles/ipsec-must
> ===> doc/articles/laptop
> ===> doc/articles/mh
> ===> doc/articles/multi-os
> ===> doc/articles/new-users
> ===> doc/articles/problem-reports
> ===> doc/articles/programming-tools
> ===> doc/articles/pxe
> ===> doc/articles/releng
> groff -p -S -Wall -mtty-char -man branches.pic > branches.ps
> /usr/local/bin/ps2epsi branches.ps branches.eps
> gs: not found
> /usr/local/bin/peps -p -r 100  -o branches.png branches.eps
> peps: branches.eps is not a valid EPS file.
> *** Error code 4
> 
> Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/doc.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /c/www/build/www/en.
>       952.53 real       217.96 user        11.71 sys
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34460; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
To: Bruce Dang <bruce@research.teamxor.org>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/34460: potential minor error in Developer's Handbook + mem(4) man page
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:22:59 +0200

 On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:05:25AM -0800, Bruce Dang wrote:
 > 
 > >Number:         34460
 > >Category:       docs
 > >Synopsis:       potential minor error in Developer's Handbook + mem(4) man page
 > >Originator:     Bruce Dang
 > >Description:
 > On page 40 of the Developer's Handbook (PDF version), there's
 > something like "will always null terminate the string." Shouldn't
 > this be NUL terinated, instead of NULL (ptr).
 
 I think this came up recently in another context, and the resolution
 was that both "NUL-terminated" and "null-terminated" were correct, and
 "NULL-terminated" is definitely wrong.  NUL is right in the sense of
 the ASCII character NUL, and 'null' is right in its semantical sense
 of 'zero', 'emptiness' or something like that.  So, although the tide
 may have turned since then, I doubt it, and I think that "null
 terminated" would be right.
 
 > In addition to that, the mem(4) man page makes references to
 > <memrange.h> for various #defines, but it is actually
 > <sys/memrange.h> that defines them...
 
 This looks genuine.  Patch attached for the benefit of -doc
 committers.
 
 G'luck,
 Peter
 
 -- 
 If there were no counterfactuals, this sentence would not have been paradoxical.
 
 Index: src/share/man/man4/mem.4
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/mem.4,v
 retrieving revision 1.13
 diff -u -r1.13 mem.4
 --- src/share/man/man4/mem.4	21 Jan 2002 12:09:13 -0000	1.13
 +++ src/share/man/man4/mem.4	30 Jan 2002 18:21:20 -0000
 @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@
  calls performed on
  .Nm /dev/mem .
  Declarations and data types are to be found in
 -.Pa <memrange.h>
 +.Pa <sys/memrange.h>
  .Pp
  The specific attributes, and number of programmable ranges may vary between
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On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:12:24PM +0600, MD. Tauhidul Islam wrote:
> is there any free bsd downloadable documentation CD iso image. If then pls refer me to the urls

	Well, there are ISO CD images for the full FreeBSD distribution
but as noted in the FreeBSD Handbook 

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

"The latest version of this document is always available from the
FreeBSD web site. It may also be downloaded in a variety of formats
and compression options from the FreeBSD FTP server or one of the
numerous mirror sites."

ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/

	Regards,

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I'm sure this was asked recently, but I don't know of a searchable
archive for the -doc list.

After some discussion with Giorgos, I'm rewriting my submission for
docs/32229, and I'd like to refer to dhcpd.8 and dhcrelay.8, which are
installed by the net/isc-dhcp3 port.

Since they aren't part of the base system, there's no entity for them,
and if I did add one to /usr/doc/share/sgml/man-refs.ent, it wouldn't
work on the website anyway (man.cgi doesn't have them).

So what should do I do with these references ?

Thanks,

Ceri

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Gregory Sutter <gsutter@zer0.org> writes:

> > > I understand the need for such an index document.  There is a wealth of
> > > FreeBSD information in the FAQ, Handbook, Committer's Guide, articles,
> > > books, manual pages, O'Reillynet articles, Daemon News articles,
> > > hardcopy books, graphics, ascii art, and also a few hundred web sites,
> > > some of it very difficult to find despite its potential utility to many
> > > FreeBSD users.
...
> Wikis are useful for small groups, but they don't scale well to large
> efforts.  In addition, for a group that is accustomed to DocBook and
> CVS, a Wiki is a good dozen steps backward.  Wikis can't be
> automanglically changed into PDF, PS, text, or half a dozen other
> formats; their change-control mechanisms are too simple; they can't
> be locally edited by multiple developers; and it's yet another 
> markup language to learn, albeit a (too) simplistic one.
> 
> I'm not totally dissing WikiWikiWebs; they have their place.  I use
> several of them on a regular basis.  But I don't think it's the 
> proper tool for this job.

"This job", being what?  A paper (and other format) index?  That may be
too ambitious (too consuming of FDP resources).  I see the wiki link
index as be maintained by non-FDP people (except for the infrastructure)
with no need to be transformed to other formats.

As to the scaling, what problems do you see effecting a FreeBSD Wiki?

It's more debatable whether such Wiki should allow more than links (with
brief descriptions), because then there'd be lots of duplication with
DocBook stuff, and maybe find that people were much more willing to help
with near-plain text docs than the DocBook stuff which I'm sure
discourages most potential helpers.

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On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 11:49:24AM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
> 
> It's more debatable whether such Wiki should allow more than links (with
> brief descriptions), because then there'd be lots of duplication with
> DocBook stuff, and maybe find that people were much more willing to help
> with near-plain text docs than the DocBook stuff which I'm sure
> discourages most potential helpers.

Good; those of us who will do docbook can borrow the text and mark it up.

I don't really like the idea of a Wiki in this instance though, although
that may be because the ones that I have seen are piss poor.

Ceri

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On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 07:30:36PM +0000, Ceri wrote:
> 
> I'm sure this was asked recently, but I don't know of a searchable
> archive for the -doc list.

Well at least I think partly the

www.freebsd.org/search.html

page works if you go to "Mailing List search" and check -doc

but it is also archived atcouple of other sites.

Some are mentioned on the above page.

Hope this helps

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Hey Peter,

   Good explanation.  Can you add this to the Doc Project Primer?
This should probably go near the word list.

     - Murray

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:30:01AM -0800, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> The following reply was made to PR docs/34460; it has been noted by GNATS.
> 
> From: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
> To: Bruce Dang <bruce@research.teamxor.org>
> Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: docs/34460: potential minor error in Developer's Handbook + mem(4) man page
> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:22:59 +0200
> 
>  On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:05:25AM -0800, Bruce Dang wrote:
>  > 
>  > >Number:         34460
>  > >Category:       docs
>  > >Synopsis:       potential minor error in Developer's Handbook + mem(4) man page
>  > >Originator:     Bruce Dang
>  > >Description:
>  > On page 40 of the Developer's Handbook (PDF version), there's
>  > something like "will always null terminate the string." Shouldn't
>  > this be NUL terinated, instead of NULL (ptr).
>  
>  I think this came up recently in another context, and the resolution
>  was that both "NUL-terminated" and "null-terminated" were correct, and
>  "NULL-terminated" is definitely wrong.  NUL is right in the sense of
>  the ASCII character NUL, and 'null' is right in its semantical sense
>  of 'zero', 'emptiness' or something like that.  So, although the tide
>  may have turned since then, I doubt it, and I think that "null
>  terminated" would be right.
>  
>  > In addition to that, the mem(4) man page makes references to
>  > <memrange.h> for various #defines, but it is actually
>  > <sys/memrange.h> that defines them...
>  
>  This looks genuine.  Patch attached for the benefit of -doc
>  committers.
>  
>  G'luck,
>  Peter
>  
>  -- 
>  If there were no counterfactuals, this sentence would not have been paradoxical.
>  
>  Index: src/share/man/man4/mem.4
>  ===================================================================
>  RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man4/mem.4,v
>  retrieving revision 1.13
>  diff -u -r1.13 mem.4
>  --- src/share/man/man4/mem.4	21 Jan 2002 12:09:13 -0000	1.13
>  +++ src/share/man/man4/mem.4	30 Jan 2002 18:21:20 -0000
>  @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@
>   calls performed on
>   .Nm /dev/mem .
>   Declarations and data types are to be found in
>  -.Pa <memrange.h>
>  +.Pa <sys/memrange.h>
>   .Pp
>   The specific attributes, and number of programmable ranges may vary between
>   architectures.  The full set of supported attributes is:
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Hi,

The latest version of Open Motif 2.2 (a major new release) also includes
support for FreeBSD. I've attached the html version of the press release.
But the basics are:

In cooperation with The Open Group, ICS hs just released a major update to
Motif, the GUI toolkit used by most enterprise applications on UNIX
workstations and enterprise applications moving to Open Source operating
systems like FreeBSD.

Open Motif 2.2 includes 10 new user interface controls and universal tooltip
support. A 18 month roadmap has also been defined that defines availability
for additional functionality including anti-aliased fonts, improved imaging
support (png, jpg, etc.) and canvases.

The software can be downloaded for FreeBSD at:
http://www.motifzone.net/download/dldform.php

If you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer!

Mark

Integrated Computer Solutions
201 Broadway
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<html>
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<body text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" link=3D"#0000FF">

<h2>
Industry Standard Toolkit for User Interfaces Updated
</h2>

<h3>
<i>Open Motif 2.2 and Release Roadmap Result from Availability to Open =
Source Community
</i></h3>

<b>New York, NY -- January 29, 2002</b> -- Integrated Computer =
Solutions, Inc. (ICS), the leading=20
supplier of user interface development tools for professionals, =
announced today that it has=20
released Open Motif 2.2. Open Motif is the publicly licensed version of =
Motif, the industry=20
standard user interface toolkit for UNIX=AE systems (IEEE 1295). In =
addition, ICS has released=20
an 18-month roadmap that defines the next three versions of Open Motif. =
This announcement=20
builds on an earlier announcement by ICS of Embedded Open Motif, a =
version of Motif=20
optimized for embedded and handheld systems.

<p>
"We released Open Motif to the Open Source community for the dual =
benefit of increasing use of=20
Motif and growing the number of applications to benefit the end-user," =
said Allen Brown,=20
President and CEO of The Open Group. "We welcome and embrace ICS's =
contributions, and=20
have incorporated them into the reference release of Open Motif 2.2. The =
Open Group also plans=20
to work with ICS to produce an update to the commercial version of Motif =
based on the ICS=20
contributions. These initiatives ensure that Motif continues to be a =
growing and useful standard=20
for enterprise application development."
</p>

<p>
Open Motif 2.2 adds ToolTips =96 popup hints that appear when the =
pointer rests over a button,=20
menu or other user interface control =96 to all existing Motif widgets. =
ICS has also added 10 new=20
widgets to Open Motif including: support for tabbed user interfaces, =
tree style layout,=20
validating data entry fields, and toolbars. Enterprise developer input =
was the critical factor in=20
ICS adding these widgets to Open Motif.
</p>

<p>
"Since Motif was made publicly available, ICS has been inundated with =
downloads and feature=20
requests," said Peter Winston, President of ICS. "The release of Open =
Motif 2.2 and its associated=20
Roadmap continues our commitment to enterprise developers who need the =
reliability,=20
performance and functionality of Motif."
</p>

<h4>
Open Motif 2.2 Updates to be Made Available for UNIX Systems
</h4>
ICS will make the Open Motif 2.2 updates available as a commercial Motif =
product on UNIX=20
workstations including Sun, SGI, IBM, HP and Compaq. This will allow =
developers to use the=20
latest Motif enhancement on both Open Source systems as well as their =
UNIX based systems. =20
First customer shipment of ICS's commercial version of Motif will occur =
in April 2002.

<h4>
Motif Roadmap
</h4>
ICS has also made available the following Open Motif roadmap:

<ul type=3D"disc">
	<li>Q3/2002: Open Motif 2.3 will provide imaging support to Motif for =
commonly available=20
formats (jpgs, png, etc.). The XmCanvas widget will be added to provide =
a powerful=20
structured graphical display tool.
	</li>
	<li>Q1/2003: Open Motif 2.4 will provide support for anti-aliased =
fonts. In addition, several=20
more widgets will be added including tables and graphs.
	</li>
	<li>Q3/2003: Open Motif 2.5 will improve C++ support.
	</li>
</ul>

<h4>
Six City Tour Offers Free Training on Open Motif 2.2
</h4>

In March, ICS and the MotifZone (http://www.motifzone.net) will provide =
developers with free=20
training classes on Open Motif 2.2 in Philadelphia, Washington DC, =
Houston, Denver, Los=20
Angeles, and Boston. More details on this free training can be found at=20
http://www.ics.com/seminars .

<h4>
About Motif
</h4>
<strong>Motif</strong> is the industry standard graphical user interface =
toolkit, (IEEE 1295). It is used on more=20
than 200 hardware and software platforms including Compaq, HP, IBM, =
Linux, SGI, and Sun. It=20
provides application developers, end users, and system integrators with =
the industry's most=20
widely used environment for multi-platform graphical applications. Motif =
is the leading user=20
interface for the UNIX based operating system.

<p><strong>Open Motif</strong> is the publicly licensed version of =
Motif. The official Open Motif home web page is=20
at http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/ . ICS hosts the official =
development tree for Open Motif=20
at the MotifZone (http://www.motifzone.net)
</p>

<p><strong>Commercial Motif</strong> is the release of Open Motif for =
traditional UNIX workstations such as those=20
offered by Sun, SGI, IBM, HP and Compaq. ICS offers Commercial Motif to =
maintain=20
compatibility with Open Motif.
</p>

<p><strong>Embedded Open Motif</strong> is the lightweight distribution =
of Open Motif geared towards embedded=20
and handheld systems.=20
</p>

<h4>
About ICS
</h4>
Founded in 1987, ICS was chartered to create software development tools =
for developers working=20
with the then emerging X Window System=99. The company's first product =
offerings included X=20
training and a version of Motif for systems manufactured by Sun =
Microsystems. Prior to=20
widespread adoption of Motif by the UNIX workstation vendors, ICS was =
the leading=20
independent shipper of the Motif toolkit. In 1998, The Open Group chose =
ICS to provide=20
technical support for its Motif source code licenses.=20

<p>Today, ICS is the current market leader in Motif graphical user =
interface development tools. It's=20
flagship product, Builder Xcessory, is in its fifth major release and =
represents over 100 person=20
years of effort. BX defines a level of sophistication, functionality and =
ease-of-use that is=20
unmatched in the industry.
</p>=20

<p>ICS sponsors the MotifZone (http://www.motifzone.net), a community =
site for Motif developers=20
to gather additional knowledge and request input on technical problems =
from other engineers. The=20
MotifZone hosts the Public CVS source code repository for Open Motif as =
well as the defect=20
database. The MotifZone hosts over 5000 active developers, has delivered =
almost 100,000=20
downloads of Open Motif, and experiences over 5 million hits per year. =
It is the most active=20
website dedicated to user interface software development.
</p>=20

<p>For further information on ICS, its products or services, call =
617-621-0060, or visit the ICS=20
website at http://www.ics.com .
</p>

<h4>Press Contacts:</h4>
<p>Amy Zinkann
<br>ICS
<br>617-621-0060 x192
<br>amy@ics.com
<br>
<hr>
<p><font size=3D-2>UNIX and Motif are registered trademarks of The Open =
Group in the US and other countries. The Open Group and the X Window=20
System are trademarks of The Open Group. Linux is a registered trademark =
of Linus Torvalds.=20
All other names and trademarks are the property of their respective =
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34244; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
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Subject: Re: docs/34244: [PATCH] bad links
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:40:25 -0500 (EST)

 I checked both of the old sites, and its true that
 niether of them are availible (404 Errors), the
 supplied patch will fix this issue by updateing
 the www/en/docproj/translations.sgml file to reflect the
 new pages in question.
 
 --Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes
 
 
 *** translations.sgml.old	Wed Jan 30 16:53:49 2002
 --- translations.sgml	Wed Jan 30 16:56:46 2002
 ***************
 *** 64,75 ****
   <a name="estonian"></a>
   <h2>The FreeBSD Estonian Documentation Project</h2>
   
 ! <b>Web</b>: <a href="http://www.matti.ee/~vallo/">
 ! http://www.matti.ee/~vallo/</a><br>
   
   <dl>
   <dt><i>Documents available</i></dt>
 !    <dd><a href="http://www.matti.ee/~vallo/ppphandbook/ppp1.html">FreeBSD handbook userppp section</a></dd>
   </dl>
   
   <a name="french"></a>
 --- 64,75 ----
   <a name="estonian"></a>
   <h2>The FreeBSD Estonian Documentation Project</h2>
   
 ! <b>Web</b>: <a href="http://www.bsd.ee/tolge.php">
 ! http://www.bsd.ee/tolge.php</a><br>
   
   <dl>
   <dt><i>Documents available</i></dt>
 !    <dd><a href="http://www.bsd.ee/handbook/">FreeBSD handbook</a></dd>
   </dl>
   
   <a name="french"></a>

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Synopsis: link to estonian documentation project is outdated

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In src/release/Makefile revision 1.541, 'DOCDISTFILES' variable is
introduced that points to a directory containing the distfiles to
build the textproc/docproj during doc.1 target is processed.

However, ports is not used in doc stage in these days -- iso.1 target
to create ISO image, requires sysutils/mkisofs.  It is natual that
prefetching cdrtools tarball and copy it ${CHROOTDIR}/user/ports/distfiles
prior to whole release procedure.

Yes, it can be easily done with 'DOCDISTFILES'.  But it is *not* doc
related.  If all of you concerning doesn't matter, I want to change
its variable name to something other appropriate name.

Attached below is a patch to rename this variable.  In this patch, I
employ 'RELEASEDISTFILES' for a new candidate.  But I have no idea
about this new name; if you want to name it, that's OK to me.

Any comments?

-- -
Makoto `MAR' Matsushita

Index: Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.655
diff -u -r1.655 Makefile
--- Makefile	31 Jan 2002 00:38:09 -0000	1.655
+++ Makefile	31 Jan 2002 00:58:28 -0000
@@ -103,8 +103,8 @@
 # by the RELNOTES_LANG variable above.
 ALLLANG?=	yes
 DOCPORTS=	textproc/docproj
-# Set this to wherever the distfiles required by ${DOCPORTS} live.
-DOCDISTFILES?=	${.CURDIR}/../../ports/distfiles
+# Set this to wherever the distfiles required by release procedures.
+RELEASEDISTFILES?=	${.CURDIR}/../../ports/distfiles
 # Set this to 1 if you want -P to be used for automatic keyboard detection
 # on the boot floppy.  WARNING: Breaks on some Athlon (K7) motherboards.
 AUTO_KEYBOARD_DETECT?= 0
@@ -298,8 +298,8 @@
 .else
 	cd ${CHROOTDIR}/usr && rm -rf doc && cvs -R -d ${CVSROOT} co -P ${RELEASEDOCMODULE}
 .endif
-	if [ -d ${DOCDISTFILES}/ ]; then \
-		cp -rp ${DOCDISTFILES} ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports/distfiles; \
+	if [ -d ${RELEASEDISTFILES}/ ]; then \
+		cp -rp ${RELEASEDISTFILES} ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports/distfiles; \
 	fi
 .endif
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>Number:         34474
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] Adding floppy section to handbook
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Jan 30 18:20:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Julio Merino <juli@merino.net>
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5 i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD 4.5

>Description:
Awhile back, in pr: 33164 Julio wrote a section on Floppy Disks
for the handbook, and Murray changed the pr state to 'feedback'.  The information
was good, and should be added, just the patch should have been added to the
disks chapter.  I have looked over the original diff, made slight formatting
modifications, merged it with the disks chapter and created a patch for
everyone and anyone.  If this should have just been sent to the pr in
question, then I apologize for opening a new pr.  I hope to see this committed
to the handbook, thanks Julio

--Tom Rhodes

>How-To-Repeat:
look up pr: 33164
>Fix:
Apply this patch, close this pr and 33164, rebuild the handbook





*** chapter.sgml.old	Wed Jan 30 21:01:41 2002
--- chapter.sgml	Wed Jan 30 21:02:05 2002
***************
*** 1994,2007 ****
      </sect2>
    </sect1>
  
    <sect1 id="backups-floppybackups">
      <title>Backups to Floppies</title>
  
      <sect2 id="floppies-using">
        <title>Can I Use floppies for Backing Up My Data?</title>
!       <indexterm><primary>backup floppies</primary></indexterm> 
!       <indexterm><primary>floppy disks</primary></indexterm> 
!       
        <para>Floppy disks are not really a suitable media for
          making backups as:</para>
  
--- 1994,2155 ----
      </sect2>
    </sect1>
  
+   <sect1 id="floppies">
+     <sect1info>
+       <authorgroup>
+ 	<author>
+ 	  <firstname>Julio</firstname>
+ 	  <surname>Merino</surname>
+ 	  <contrib>Contributed by </contrib>
+ 	</author>
+       </authorgroup>
+       <!-- 24 Dec 2001 -->
+     </sect1info>
+ 
+     <title>Floppy disks</title>
+ 
+     <para>Floppy disks are, nowadays, an old-fashioned medium to
+       store/share data. Although, there are still some times when you
+       need to use them, because you do not have any other removable
+       storage media or you need to use what you have saved in them on
+       any other computer.</para>
+ 
+     <para>This section will explain how to use floppy disks in
+       FreeBSD, that is, formating and copying/restoring data from
+       them. But... I really have written this to help you about how to
+       create forced-size floppies.</para>
+ 
+     <sect2>
+       <title>The device</title>
+ 
+       <para>Floppy disks are accessed throught entries in
+         <filename>/dev</filename> (like any other device). To access the
+         raw floppy disk you can use <filename>/dev/rfdX</filename>,
+         where X stands for the drive number, usually 0. When the disk is
+         formatted you can use <filename>/dev/fdX</filename>, or
+         whichever of the other devices named
+         <filename>/dev/fdXY</filename>, where Y stands for a
+         letter. These are all the same.</para>
+ 
+       <para>Other important devices are
+         <filename>/dev/fdX.size</filename>, where size is a floppy disk
+         size in kilobytes. These entries are used at low-level format
+         time to determine the disk size.</para>
+ 
+       <para>Sometimes you will have to (re)create these entries under
+         <filename>/dev</filename>. To do it, you can issue:</para>
+ 
+       <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>cd /dev && ./MAKEDEV "fd*"</userinput></screen>
+     </sect2>
+ 
+     <sect2>
+       <title>Formatting</title>
+ 
+       <para>A floppy disk needs to be low-level formated before it can
+         be used.  This is usually done by the vendor but you may want to
+         do it to check media integrity or to force the disk capacity to
+         be bigger.</para>
+ 
+       <para>To format the floppy at a low-level fashion you need to
+         use <application>fdformat</application>. This utility expects
+         the device name as an argument. We will use those
+         <filename>/dev/fdX.size</filename> devices, which will allow us
+         to format the floppy to its real size, or force them.  So you
+         insert a new 3.5inch floppy disk in your drive and issue:</para>
+ 
+       <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>/usr/sbin/fdformat /dev/rfd0.1440</userinput></screen>
+ 
+       <para>This will take a while... You should notice any disk error
+         here (this can help you determining which disks are good or
+         bad).</para>
+ 
+       <para>To force the floppy disk size, we will use other entries
+         in <filename>/dev</filename>.  Get the same floppy and issue:
+ 
+       <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>/usr/sbin/fdformat /dev/rfd0.1720</userinput></screen>
+ 
+       <para>It will take some more time than before (forced disks are
+         slower).  When it finishes, you will have a 1720kb floppy disk,
+         but for the moment you will not notice any difference. You may
+         use other disk sizes that you can find in /dev, but the most
+         stable/compatible is the 1720kb for 3.5inch disks.</para>
+     </sect2>
+ 
+     <sect2>
+       <title>The disklabel</title>
+ 
+       <para>After low-level formatting the disk, you will need to
+         place a disklabel on it.  This disklabel will be destroyed
+         later, but it is needed by the system to determine the size of
+         the disk and its geometry later.</para>
+ 
+       <para>The new disklabel will take over the whole disk, and will
+         contain all the proper information about the geometry of the
+         normal or forced floppy.  Take a look to
+         <filename>/etc/disktab</filename> now; you will see geometry
+         values of all kinds of floppy disks.
+ 
+       <para>You can run now <application>disklabel</application>
+         like:</para>
+ 
+       <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>/sbin/disklabel -B -r -w /dev/rfd0 fd(size)</userinput></screen>
+ 
+       <para>Replace fd(size) with fd1440, fd1720 or whichever size you
+         want.  The last field instructs disklabel which entry to take
+         from <filename>/etc/disktab</filename> to use.</para>
+     </sect2>
+ 
+     <sect2>
+       <title>The filesystem</title>
+ 
+       <para>Now your floppy is ready to be high-level formated. This
+         will place a new filesystem on it, which will let FreeBSD read
+         and write to the disk. After creating the new filesystem, the
+         disklabel is destroyed, so if you want to reformat the disk, you
+         will have to recreate the disklabel another time.</para>
+ 
+       <para>You can choose now which filesystem to use on your floppy.
+         You can use UFS or FAT, though UFS is not a good idea for
+         floppies.  Choose FAT which is nice for floppies.</para>
+ 
+       <para>To put a new filesystem on the floppy do this:</para>
+ 
+       <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>/sbin/newfs_msdos /dev/fd0</userinput></screen>
+ 
+       <para>As we created a disklabel before, <application>newfs</application>
+         will be able to fetch disk data and construct the new
+         filesystem. And now, your disk is ready for use...</para>
+     </sect2>
+ 
+     <sect2>
+       <title>Using the floppy</title>
+ 
+       <para>You have two choices to use the floppy. You can either
+         mount the disk with <application>mount_msdos</application>, or you can
+         use <application>mtools</application>.
+         <application>Mtools</application> are great, but you will need
+         to install them from the ports system.</para>
+ 
+       <para>Try it; issue a <application>mdir</application>. If you forced the
+         disk, you will notice its extra size!</para>
+ 
+       <para>A last note about forced disks: they are compatible with
+         practically all other operating systems without any external
+         utility to read/write them.  Microsoft systems will recognize
+         them without problems. But note that there may be times when the
+         floppy drive itself is not able to read them (this may happen
+         with very old drives).</para>
+     </sect2>
+   </sect1>
+ 
    <sect1 id="backups-floppybackups">
      <title>Backups to Floppies</title>
  
      <sect2 id="floppies-using">
        <title>Can I Use floppies for Backing Up My Data?</title>
!       <indexterm><primary>backup floppies</primary></indexterm>
!       <indexterm><primary>floppy disks</primary></indexterm>
! 
        <para>Floppy disks are not really a suitable media for
          making backups as:</para>
  
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>Number:         34478
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] Install chapter of handbook is missleading
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
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>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5 i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD 4.5

>Description:
The FreeBSD handbook installation chapter, has an
<important> note about growfs(8), listing that it will be a new
feature in FreeBSD 5.0.  This is untrue, the man page for
growfs(8) has been around since 4.4, and even specifies that
the command originally showed in 4.4.

>How-To-Repeat:
Read the config chapter, then man 8 growfs

>Fix:
This patch, will adjust the install/chapter.sgml so that it
will point out the truth, which is that the command in question,
growfs(8) first appeared in 4.4


*** chapter.sgml.old	Wed Jan 30 22:19:24 2002
--- chapter.sgml	Wed Jan 30 22:24:54 2002
***************
*** 1666,1673 ****
  	    with the size, and then restoring.</para>
  
  	  <important>
! 	    <para>FreeBSD 5.0 will feature a new command,
! 	      <command>growfs</command>, which will make it possible to
  	      increase the size of a filesystem on the fly, removing this
  	      limitation.</para>
  	  </important>
--- 1666,1673 ----
  	    with the size, and then restoring.</para>
  
  	  <important>
! 	    <para>FreeBSD 4.4 and up have a featured command, the
! 	      &man.growfs.8, which will makes it possible to
  	      increase the size of a filesystem on the fly, removing this
  	      limitation.</para>
  	  </important>
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Synopsis: AppWatch.com (mentioned in Handbook) is closed

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>Number:         34479
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       bug in sshd manpage ( sshd and /var/run/nologin )
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
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FreeBSD futon.schulte.org 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 30 01:46:27 CST 2002

sshd version OpenSSH_2.9 FreeBSD localisations 20011202
>Description:
There appears to be a bug in the manpage of sshd(8).  It tells us:

When a user successfully logs in, sshd does the following:
[snip 1,2]

3.   Checks /etc/nologin and /var/run/nologin; if one exists, it
                prints the contents and quits (unless root).


This is not the case, as I documented here:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=277364+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2002/freebsd-security/20020127.freebsd-security
>How-To-Repeat:
touch /var/run/nologin and try to ssh in as non-root.

>Fix:
Edit the man page to tell us /var/run/nologin only works if 'UseLogin' is defined, as suggested by this mailing list message:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=280283+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2002/freebsd-security/20020127.freebsd-security
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Hello,

we going to start writting book help with FreeBSD on arabic language do u 
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Hello,

We would be very happy to have FreeBSD materials available in Arabic.

Best of luck to you!

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  I think this is a good idea, but I think we should continue to
accept the old DOCDISTFILES variable, to support existing scripts that
may be in place doing release builds.

.if defined(DOCDISTFILES)
RELEASEDISTFILES?= ${DOCDISTFILES}
.else
RELEASEDISTFILES?=	${.CURDIR}/../../ports/distfiles
.endif

  Or something similar at the top of the Makefile.

  - Murray

On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 10:01:15AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote:
> 
> In src/release/Makefile revision 1.541, 'DOCDISTFILES' variable is
> introduced that points to a directory containing the distfiles to
> build the textproc/docproj during doc.1 target is processed.
> 
> However, ports is not used in doc stage in these days -- iso.1 target
> to create ISO image, requires sysutils/mkisofs.  It is natual that
> prefetching cdrtools tarball and copy it ${CHROOTDIR}/user/ports/distfiles
> prior to whole release procedure.
> 
> Yes, it can be easily done with 'DOCDISTFILES'.  But it is *not* doc
> related.  If all of you concerning doesn't matter, I want to change
> its variable name to something other appropriate name.
> 
> Attached below is a patch to rename this variable.  In this patch, I
> employ 'RELEASEDISTFILES' for a new candidate.  But I have no idea
> about this new name; if you want to name it, that's OK to me.
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> -- -
> Makoto `MAR' Matsushita
> 
> Index: Makefile
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/Makefile,v
> retrieving revision 1.655
> diff -u -r1.655 Makefile
> --- Makefile	31 Jan 2002 00:38:09 -0000	1.655
> +++ Makefile	31 Jan 2002 00:58:28 -0000
> @@ -103,8 +103,8 @@
>  # by the RELNOTES_LANG variable above.
>  ALLLANG?=	yes
>  DOCPORTS=	textproc/docproj
> -# Set this to wherever the distfiles required by ${DOCPORTS} live.
> -DOCDISTFILES?=	${.CURDIR}/../../ports/distfiles
> +# Set this to wherever the distfiles required by release procedures.
> +RELEASEDISTFILES?=	${.CURDIR}/../../ports/distfiles
>  # Set this to 1 if you want -P to be used for automatic keyboard detection
>  # on the boot floppy.  WARNING: Breaks on some Athlon (K7) motherboards.
>  AUTO_KEYBOARD_DETECT?= 0
> @@ -298,8 +298,8 @@
>  .else
>  	cd ${CHROOTDIR}/usr && rm -rf doc && cvs -R -d ${CVSROOT} co -P ${RELEASEDOCMODULE}
>  .endif
> -	if [ -d ${DOCDISTFILES}/ ]; then \
> -		cp -rp ${DOCDISTFILES} ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports/distfiles; \
> +	if [ -d ${RELEASEDISTFILES}/ ]; then \
> +		cp -rp ${RELEASEDISTFILES} ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports/distfiles; \
>  	fi
>  .endif
>  .endif
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murray> .if defined(DOCDISTFILES)
murray> RELEASEDISTFILES?= ${DOCDISTFILES}
murray> .else
murray> RELEASEDISTFILES?=	${.CURDIR}/../../ports/distfiles
murray> .endif

This is better than my choice, no impact to users using
DOCDISTFILES. Thank you for the advice.

Are there any other comments?  If nothing more, I'll commit it later
(maybe several days after).

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On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:17:43PM +0100, Szilveszter Adam wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 07:30:36PM +0000, Ceri wrote:
> > 
> > I'm sure this was asked recently, but I don't know of a searchable
> > archive for the -doc list.
> 
> Well at least I think partly the
> 
> www.freebsd.org/search.html
> 
> page works if you go to "Mailing List search" and check -doc

Ok, I've checked, and it seems I was mistaken and it hasn't been discussed
recently at all.

How do I deal with references to manual pages installed by ports ?
Someone.  Please.  Help.

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Eqab Almutairi wrote:

> Hello,
>
> we going to start writting book help with FreeBSD on arabic language do u
> have anyproblem with that?
>
> if no please send us ur agreement. if theres any

Please do :)
At least I, will help in any way I can.

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34328; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
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Subject: Re: docs/34328: Minor corrections to kernelconfig
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:33:35 -0500

 Recently looking this over, we have 2 prs for the kernelconfig chapter, 
 they will cancell each other out in line variances, and i'm going to 
 combine them...
 
 I see your logic in this, but I will point out a few things that I don't 
 agree with:
 
 you have: <command>vi</command> and <command>ee</command>
 which will work, yes, but the sentence does not push the user to look at 
 a command, in hence, it sounds more like you want to refer to a utility 
 or application.  The new patch will hug vi and ee in the <application> tags.
 
 You have <command>make world</command> when the FDP primer requests the 
 use of <maketarget> as "make world" is more of a target.
 
 Some of your other ideas I agree with, mainly the grammer, but I will 
 submit a patch with your changes, my changes and cover pr: 34137 in 
 it...  Thanks for pointing these out!
 
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hi sirs,

just FYI.

i have set up a Thai website for FreeBSD and a webboard too.
they are almost all newbies.
the main url is http://www.thai.net/makham and a copy of original site is at http://isag38.ce.kmitl.ac.th/~makhamus while a `manuscript' is changing from time to time due to a dynamic dial up ip number at my machine.

really apologize for disturbing the list.

with best regards
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>Number:         34496
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       net/isc-dhcp2 no longer exists
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Jan 31 11:20:02 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Ceri
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 29 12:54:04 GMT 2002 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386


	
>Description:
The advanced networking section of the handbook still refers to
the net/isc-dhcp2 port, which was removed last week sometime.

Ceri

>How-To-Repeat:
N/A
>Fix:

--- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml.old	Thu Jan 31 19:13:03 2002
+++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml	Thu Jan 31 19:14:17 2002
@@ -3452,7 +3452,7 @@
           <secondary>server</secondary>
         </indexterm>
         <para>The DHCP server, <command>dhcpd</command>, is included
-          as part of the <literal>isc-dhcp2</literal> port in the ports
+          as part of the <literal>isc-dhcp3</literal> port in the ports
           collection.  This port contains the full ISC DHCP distribution,
           consisting of client, server, relay agent and documentation.
           </para>
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:32:26AM +0000, Ceri wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:17:43PM +0100, Szilveszter Adam wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 07:30:36PM +0000, Ceri wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm sure this was asked recently, but I don't know of a searchable
> > > archive for the -doc list.
> > 
> > Well at least I think partly the
> > 
> > www.freebsd.org/search.html
> > 
> > page works if you go to "Mailing List search" and check -doc
> 
> Ok, I've checked, and it seems I was mistaken and it hasn't been discussed
> recently at all.
> 
> How do I deal with references to manual pages installed by ports ?
> Someone.  Please.  Help.

OK, here's something interesting.
The manpages I need to refer to (dhcrelay.8, dhcpd.8 and dhcpd.conf.5)
actually _are_ available via our man.cgi, since they're part of the
NetBSD 1.5.2 base system.

So should I do something like linking to them (I really don't like this
idea), or is this better? :

	The <filename>dhcrelay.8</filename> manual page installed by
	the <port>net/isc-dhcp3</port> has more details.

You know, I'm starting to think you guys just wish I would go away... ;^)

Ceri

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Synopsis: 4.5 Relnotes only lists SiS635 and 735 as chipsets with sis900/7016 ethernet driver

State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
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Committed to 5-CURRENT and 4-STABLE, thanks!

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34437

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> > How do I deal with references to manual pages
> installed by ports ?
> > Someone.  Please.  Help.

hi,

I think we need to re-structure the way we reference
to man pages from the docs.  We should make it in
such a way, that all the man pages that are supported
by /cgi/man.cgi can be referenced, let that be
NetBSD's
set or our own set of man pages.. or ports...

I am saying we should make a new tag called <man> or
something like <manref>.

For example:

<manref section="8" name="sysinstall" 
        base="FREEBSD44-REL">

The above tag would produce the following HTML:
<a
href="http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=sysinstall&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+4.4-RELEASE">

For the PDF, it would just produce: sysinstall(8)

I think this would be a great way to solve our
dillema ;)

Suggestions?

regards,

 - Hiten
 - <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.orG>

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On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:59:33AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote:
> > > How do I deal with references to manual pages
> > installed by ports ?
> > > Someone.  Please.  Help.
> 
> hi,
> 
> I think we need to re-structure the way we reference
> to man pages from the docs.  We should make it in
> such a way, that all the man pages that are supported
> by /cgi/man.cgi can be referenced, let that be
> NetBSD's
> set or our own set of man pages.. or ports...
> 
> I am saying we should make a new tag called <man> or
> something like <manref>.
> 
> For example:
> 
> <manref section="8" name="sysinstall" 
>         base="FREEBSD44-REL">
> 
> The above tag would produce the following HTML:
> <a
> href="http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=sysinstall&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+4.4-RELEASE">
> 
> For the PDF, it would just produce: sysinstall(8)
> 
> I think this would be a great way to solve our
> dillema ;)
> 
> Suggestions?

I like it - I assume that the package building cluster could somehow feed
man.cgi with all the manpages for the ports ?

For the moment I'm going with :
    This configuration file is described by the
    <filename>dhcpd.conf.5<\filename> manual page installed by the 
    port.

for my patch, but long term the above would be nice.

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If memory serves me right, Hiten Pandya wrote:

> I am saying we should make a new tag called <man> or
> something like <manref>.
>
> For example:
> 
> <manref section="8" name="sysinstall" 
>         base="FREEBSD44-REL">

We don't need another element to make us even more gratuitously
different from the rest of the DocBook-using world.  citerefentry does
the job quite well, and, most importantly, it's what we use now.  An
attribute to citerefentry can help the HTML stylesheet figure out the
appropriate parameters to use for the man.cgi gateway (which already
claims a section for manpages from ports...I haven't a clue how this is
generated though).

The current system isn't broken...it just needs a little help.

Bruce.



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The following reply was made to PR docs/33042; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
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Subject: Re: docs/33042: [PATCH] Update to install section
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:16:18 -0500 (EST)

 In my free time, I fixed and updated the install chapter
 so that we may close, yet another pr.  I hope this can
 be applied quickly to keep the handbook up to date.
 
 Thanks alot
 
 --Tom Rhodes
 
 
 *** chapter.sgml.old	Thu Jan 31 15:04:59 2002
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 ***************
 *** 2190,2199 ****
   
   	      <entry><filename>/</filename></entry>
   
 ! 	      <entry>64MB</entry>
   
   	      <entry>This is the root file system.  Every other filesystem
 ! 		will be mounted somewhere under this one.  64MB is a
   		reasonable size for this filesystem.  You will not be storing
   		too much data on it, as a regular FreeBSD install will put
   		about 40MB of data here.  The remaining space is for temporary
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   	      <entry><filename>/</filename></entry>
   
 ! 	      <entry>100MB</entry>
   
   	      <entry>This is the root file system.  Every other filesystem
 ! 		will be mounted somewhere under this one.  100MB is a
   		reasonable size for this filesystem.  You will not be storing
   		too much data on it, as a regular FreeBSD install will put
   		about 40MB of data here.  The remaining space is for temporary
 ***************
 *** 4515,4520 ****
 --- 4515,4525 ----
   	has been issued and the message "Please press any key to reboot"
   	appears. If any key is pressed instead of turning off the power
   	switch, the system will reboot.</para>
 + 
 +       <para>You could also use the <keycap>CTRL+ALT+DEL</keycap> key
 +         combination to reboot the system, however this is not recommended
 +         during normal operation.</para>
 + 
       </sect2>
     </sect1>
   

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>Number:         34499
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] kernelconfig chapter, cleanup & update
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Jan 31 12:20:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5 i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD 4.5

>Description:
This patch does some grammer cleanup, tag cleanup,
adds softupdates to the options, and other minor 'bugs'.  This
patch also succeeds in closeing pr: 34137 and pr: 34238 so in
essance, we can apply this patch and close 3 pr's.  Thanks!

--Tom Rhodes

>How-To-Repeat:
read the kernel configuration handbook chapter,
read pr: 34137 and pr: 34238 and then review this patch.

>Fix:
apply patch supplied below!




*** chapter.sgml.old	Thu Jan 31 11:41:22 2002
--- chapter.sgml	Thu Jan 31 13:15:44 2002
***************
*** 162,168 ****
  	<literal>src</literal>, then <literal>sys</literal>.  If you
  	have an aversion to <application>sysinstall</application> and
  	you have access to an <quote>official</quote> FreeBSD CDROM, then
! 	you can also install the source from the command line :</para>
  
        <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>mount</userinput> /cdrom
  &prompt.root; <userinput>mkdir -p</userinput> <filename>/usr/src/sys</filename>
--- 162,168 ----
  	<literal>src</literal>, then <literal>sys</literal>.  If you
  	have an aversion to <application>sysinstall</application> and
  	you have access to an <quote>official</quote> FreeBSD CDROM, then
! 	you can also install the source from the command line:</para>
  
        <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>mount</userinput> /cdrom
  &prompt.root; <userinput>mkdir -p</userinput> <filename>/usr/src/sys</filename>
***************
*** 206,224 ****
  
      <note>
        <para>You must execute these and all of the following commands under
! 	the root account or you will get <errortype>permission
! 	denied</errortype> errors.</para>
      </note>
  
      <para>Now, edit <filename>MYKERNEL</filename> with your favorite text
        editor.  If you are just starting out, the only editor available
!       will probably be <command>vi</command>, which is too complex to
        explain here, but is covered well in many books in the <link
        linkend="bibliography">bibliography</link>.  However, FreeBSD does
!       offer an easier editor called <quote>ee</quote> which, if you are a
!       beginner, should be your editor of choice.  Feel free to change the
!       comment lines at the top to reflect your configuration or the
!       changes you have made to differentiate it from
        <filename>GENERIC</filename>.</para>
      <indexterm><primary>SunOS</primary></indexterm>
  
--- 206,224 ----
  
      <note>
        <para>You must execute these and all of the following commands under
! 	the <username>root</username> account or you will get
!         <errortype>permission denied</errortype> errors.</para>
      </note>
  
      <para>Now, edit <filename>MYKERNEL</filename> with your favorite text
        editor.  If you are just starting out, the only editor available
!       will probably be <application>vi</application>, which is too complex to
        explain here, but is covered well in many books in the <link
        linkend="bibliography">bibliography</link>.  However, FreeBSD does
!       offer an easier editor called <application>ee</application> which, if
!       you are a beginner, should be your editor of choice.  Feel free to
!       change the comment lines at the top to reflect your configuration or
!       the changes you have made to differentiate it from
        <filename>GENERIC</filename>.</para>
      <indexterm><primary>SunOS</primary></indexterm>
  
***************
*** 256,262 ****
        <listitem>
  	<para>If you are running a FreeBSD version prior to 4.0, and you are
  	  <emphasis>not</emphasis> upgrading to FreeBSD 4.0 or higher using
! 	  the <quote>make world</quote> procedure, use procedure 1.</para>
        </listitem>
  
        <listitem>
--- 256,263 ----
        <listitem>
  	<para>If you are running a FreeBSD version prior to 4.0, and you are
  	  <emphasis>not</emphasis> upgrading to FreeBSD 4.0 or higher using
! 	  the <maketarget>make world</maketarget> procedure, use procedure 1.
!         </para>
        </listitem>
  
        <listitem>
***************
*** 266,273 ****
        </listitem>
  
        <listitem>
! 	<para>If you are rebuilding the kernel as part of a <quote>make
! 	    world</quote> process, use procedure 2.</para>
        </listitem>
      </itemizedlist>
      
--- 267,275 ----
        </listitem>
  
        <listitem>
! 	<para>If you are rebuilding the kernel as part of a
!           <maketarget>make world</maketarget> process, use procedure 2.
!         </para>
        </listitem>
      </itemizedlist>
      
***************
*** 305,311 ****
  	way</title>
        
        <step>
! 	<para>Change to the <filename>/usr/src</filename> directory</para>
  	
  	<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>cd /usr/src</userinput></screen>
        </step>
--- 307,313 ----
  	way</title>
        
        <step>
! 	<para>Change to the <filename>/usr/src</filename> directory.</para>
  	
  	<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>cd /usr/src</userinput></screen>
        </step>
***************
*** 327,333 ****
        <para>In FreeBSD 4.2 and older you must replace
          <literal>KERNCONF=</literal> with <literal>KERNEL=</literal>.
          4.2-STABLE that was fetched after Feb 2nd, 2001 does
!         recognize <literal>KERNCONF=</literal></para>
      </note>
  
      <indexterm>
--- 329,335 ----
        <para>In FreeBSD 4.2 and older you must replace
          <literal>KERNCONF=</literal> with <literal>KERNEL=</literal>.
          4.2-STABLE that was fetched after Feb 2nd, 2001 does
!         recognize <literal>KERNCONF=</literal>.</para>
      </note>
  
      <indexterm>
***************
*** 344,351 ****
        tree in any way (you have not run <application>CVSup</application>, 
        <application>CTM</application>, or used 
        <application>anoncvs</application>), then you should use the 
!       <command>config</command>, <command>make depend</command>, 
!       <command>make</command>, <command>make install</command> sequence.</para>
  
      <indexterm>
        <primary><filename>kernel.old</filename></primary>
--- 346,354 ----
        tree in any way (you have not run <application>CVSup</application>, 
        <application>CTM</application>, or used 
        <application>anoncvs</application>), then you should use the 
!       <command>config</command>, <maketarget>make depend</maketarget>,
!       <command>make</command>, <maketarget>make install</maketarget> sequence.
!     </para>
  
      <indexterm>
        <primary><filename>kernel.old</filename></primary>
***************
*** 610,615 ****
--- 613,627 ----
        is at a premium and disk access speed is less important, such as a
        firewall.</para>
  
+     <programlisting>options          SOFTUPDATES  #Enable FFS soft updates support</programlisting>
+ 
+     <para>This option enables soft updates in the kernel, this will help speed
+       up write access on the disks.  They enabled by default in the 4.X branch
+       but may not be turned on.  Review the output from &man.mount.8; to see
+       if you have them enabled.  If you do not see the soft-updates option then
+       you will need to activate it using the &man.tunefs.8; or &man.newfs.8;
+       for new filesystems.</para>      
+ 
      <programlisting>options          MFS          #Memory Filesystem
  options          MD_ROOT      #MD is a potential root device</programlisting>
  
***************
*** 737,744 ****
  options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING</programlisting>
  
      <para>Real-time extensions added in the 1993 POSIX.  Certain
!       applications in the ports collection use these (such as Star
!       Office).</para>
  
      <indexterm>
        <primary>kernel options</primary>
--- 749,756 ----
  options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING</programlisting>
  
      <para>Real-time extensions added in the 1993 POSIX.  Certain
!       applications in the ports collection use these
!       (such as <application>StarOffice</application>).</para>
  
      <indexterm>
        <primary>kernel options</primary>
***************
*** 1021,1027 ****
        <literal>device miibus</literal> to the kernel config pulls in
        support for the generic miibus API and all of the PHY drivers,
        including a generic one for PHYs that are not specifically handled
!       by an individual driver</para>
  
      <programlisting>device          dc         # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
  device          rl         # RealTek 8129/8139
--- 1033,1039 ----
        <literal>device miibus</literal> to the kernel config pulls in
        support for the generic miibus API and all of the PHY drivers,
        including a generic one for PHYs that are not specifically handled
!       by an individual driver.</para>
  
      <programlisting>device          dc         # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
  device          rl         # RealTek 8129/8139
***************
*** 1303,1315 ****
  	    an excellent mechanism for recovering from incompatible
  	    kernels.  Simply choose the kernel you want to boot from at
  	    the FreeBSD boot loader. You can access this when the system
! 	    counts down from 10.  Hit any key except for the enter key,
!             type <command>unload</command> and then type
! 	    <command>boot
! 	    <replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable></command>, or the
! 	    filename of any other kernel that will boot properly. When
! 	    reconfiguring a kernel, it is always a good idea to keep a
! 	    kernel that is known to work on hand.</para>
  
  	  <para>After booting with a good kernel you can check over your
  	    configuration file and try to build it again.  One helpful
--- 1315,1327 ----
  	    an excellent mechanism for recovering from incompatible
  	    kernels.  Simply choose the kernel you want to boot from at
  	    the FreeBSD boot loader. You can access this when the system
! 	    counts down from 10.  Hit any key except for the
!             <keycap>enter</keycap> key, type <command>unload</command>
!             and then type
! 	    <command>boot<replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable></command>,
!             or the filename of any other kernel that will boot properly.
!             When reconfiguring a kernel, it is always a good idea to keep
!             a kernel that is known to work on hand.</para>
  
  	  <para>After booting with a good kernel you can check over your
  	    configuration file and try to build it again.  One helpful
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Hi everyone!

The publishers of Operating System Concepts by Silberschatz, Galvin and 
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The following reply was made to PR docs/30603; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Hiten Pandya <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
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 I finally got time to fix this problem, and
 make a patch to the physio(9) man page. Well,
 hear it is.  I think this should do.
 
 I have made all the neccessary changes, as well
 as add a HISTORY section.
 
 A copy of this diff is also available at:
 http://www.pittgoth.com/~hiten/diffs/physio.9.diff
 
 If there is any problems with this diff, please
 do not hesitate to contact me. Feedback is also
 very much appreciated.
 
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  - Hiten
  - <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
  
 --- physio.9	Wed Dec 26 23:14:04 2001
 +++ physio.9.new	Wed Jan 30 06:45:02 2002
 @@ -54,16 +54,12 @@
  .Fn physio
  is a helper function typically called from character device read and write
  routines to start I/O on a user process buffer.
 -It calls back on the
 -provided
 -.Fa strategy
 -routine one or more times to complete the transfer described by
 -.Fa uio .
 -The maximum amount of data to transfer with each call to
 -.Fa strategy
 -is determined by the
 -.Fa minphys
 -routine.
 +The maximum amount of data to transfer with each call 
 +is determined by: 
 +.Bd -literal 
 +dev->si_iosize_max 
 +.Ed
 +.Pp
  Since
  .Fa uio
  normally describes user space addresses,
 @@ -74,38 +70,11 @@
  .Fn physio
  always awaits the completion of the entire requested transfer before
  returning, unless an error condition is detected earlier.
 -In all cases,
 -the buffer passed in
 -.Fa bp
 -is locked (marked as
 -.Dq busy )
 -for the duration of the entire transfer.
  .Pp
  A break-down of the arguments follows:
  .Bl -tag -width indent
 -.It Fa strategy
 -The device strategy routine to call for each chunk of data to initiate
 -device I/O.
 -.It Fa bp
 -The buffer to use with the strategy routine.
 -The buffer flags will have
 -.Dv B_BUSY ,
 -and
 -.Dv B_PHYS
 -set when passed to the strategy routine.
 -If
 -.Dv NULL ,
 -a buffer is allocated from a system pool.
  .It Fa dev
  The device number identifying the device to interact with.
 -.It Fa flags
 -Direction of transfer; the only valid settings are
 -.Dv B_READ
 -or
 -.Dv B_WRITE .
 -.It Fa minphys
 -A device specific routine called to determine the maximum transfer size
 -that the device's strategy routine can handle.
  .It Fa uio
  The description of the entire transfer as requested by the user process.
  Currently, the results of passing a
 @@ -139,3 +108,11 @@
  .Sh SEE ALSO
  .Xr read 2 ,
  .Xr write 2
 +.Sh HISTORY
 +The 
 +.Xr physio 9 
 +manual page is originally from NetBSD with minor changes for applicability 
 +with FreeBSD.
 +.Pp
 +The physio(9) call has been completely re-written for providing higher
 +I/O performance, and better paging performance.

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>Number:         34509
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] cosmetic for Floppy section
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Jan 31 16:00:02 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Martin Heinen
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD Moses.earth.sol 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Sat Dec 22 07:35:30 CET 2001 toor@Moses.earth.sol:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOSES i386


	
>Description:
	throught -> through
	put variable parts inside <replaceable>
>How-To-Repeat:
	read the section 'Floppy disks' in the handbook
>Fix:

Index: chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.78
diff -u -r1.78 chapter.sgml
--- chapter.sgml	31 Jan 2002 08:10:08 -0000	1.78
+++ chapter.sgml	31 Jan 2002 23:36:03 -0000
@@ -2022,17 +2022,17 @@
     <sect2>
       <title>The device</title>
 
-      <para>Floppy disks are accessed throught entries in
+      <para>Floppy disks are accessed through entries in
         <filename>/dev</filename> (like any other device). To access the
-        raw floppy disk you can use <filename>/dev/rfdX</filename>,
-        where X stands for the drive number, usually 0. When the disk is
-        formatted you can use <filename>/dev/fdX</filename>, or
+        raw floppy disk you can use <filename>/dev/rfd<replaceable>X</replaceable></filename>,
+        where <replaceable>X</replaceable> stands for the drive number, usually 0. When the disk is
+        formatted you can use <filename>/dev/fd<replaceable>X</replaceable></filename>, or
         whichever of the other devices named
-        <filename>/dev/fdXY</filename>, where Y stands for a
+        <filename>/dev/fd<replaceable>XY</replaceable></filename>, where <replaceable>Y</replaceable> stands for a
         letter. These are all the same.</para>
 
       <para>Other important devices are
-        <filename>/dev/fdX.size</filename>, where size is a floppy disk
+        <filename>/dev/fd<replaceable>X</replaceable>.<replaceable>size</replaceable></filename>, where <replaceable>size</replaceable> is a floppy disk
         size in kilobytes. These entries are used at low-level format
         time to determine the disk size.</para>
 
@@ -2053,7 +2053,7 @@
       <para>To format the floppy at a low-level fashion you need to
         use <application>fdformat</application>. This utility expects
         the device name as an argument. We will use those
-        <filename>/dev/fdX.size</filename> devices, which will allow us
+        <filename>/dev/fd<replaceable>X</replaceable>.<replaceable>size</replaceable></filename> devices, which will allow us
         to format the floppy to its real size, or force them.  So you
         insert a new 3.5inch floppy disk in your drive and issue:</para>
 
@@ -2092,9 +2092,9 @@
       <para>You can run now <application>disklabel</application>
         like:</para>
 
-      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>/sbin/disklabel -B -r -w /dev/rfd0 fd(size)</userinput></screen>
+      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>/sbin/disklabel -B -r -w /dev/rfd0 <replaceable>fdsize</replaceable></userinput></screen>
 
-      <para>Replace fd(size) with fd1440, fd1720 or whichever size you
+      <para>Replace <replaceable>fdsize</replaceable> with <literal>fd1440</literal>, <literal>fd1720</literal> or whichever size you
         want.  The last field instructs disklabel which entry to take
         from <filename>/etc/disktab</filename> to use.</para>
     </sect2>
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34509; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: Martin Heinen <martin@sumuk.de>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: docs/34509: [PATCH] cosmetic for Floppy section
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:23:17 -0500

 Martin Heinen wrote:
 
 
 Was this the section I recent moved into the handbook, if so i'm very 
 sorry that I didn't catch these at first, mainly since Murray said on 
 the pr that it looked good, I thought nothing needed working on :)
 
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If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote:
>   I've added the release engineering article back to the build.
> ghostscript-afpl will build this fine, but the ps2epsi program in
> ghostscript-gnu has a small buglet that I just got around to patching.
> You need to be using one of those to build the article properly. If
> your build fails with some weird sed error while making the articles,
> this is why. ;)

This is kind of a late hit, but should ghostscript-gnu get a
PORTREVISION bump?

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 16:20:01 -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> The following reply was made to PR docs/34509; it has been noted by GNATS.
> 
> From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
> To: Martin Heinen <martin@sumuk.de>
> Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: docs/34509: [PATCH] cosmetic for Floppy section
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 19:23:17 -0500
> 
>  Martin Heinen wrote:
>  
>  
>  Was this the section I recent moved into the handbook, if so i'm very
>  sorry that I didn't catch these at first, mainly since Murray said on
>  the pr that it looked good, I thought nothing needed working on :)

Which is also the reason that I didn't look at it in very much detail
before I committed it, though I should probably know better :-)

- jim

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[Please CC me on any replies, as I am not subscribed to this list]

I'm not sure if this is the right list for this, but there appears to be a
typo in /etc/protocols.  The line for protocol 127 reads like this:
  crdup 127 CRUDP # Combat Radio User Datagram

Now I personally have never heard of (let alone used) this protocol, but
it is listed on the IANA site as CRUDP.  So I assume that the 'crdup' as
listed is a typo.  If someone could confirm this for me then I'll send in
a pr.  And if this belongs to someone other than -doc, let me know that as
well.

Thanks,

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"John Nielsen" <oniblerz@attbi.com> writes:

> [Please CC me on any replies, as I am not subscribed to this list]
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the right list for this, but there appears to be a
> typo in /etc/protocols.  The line for protocol 127 reads like this:
>   crdup 127 CRUDP # Combat Radio User Datagram
> 
> Now I personally have never heard of (let alone used) this protocol, but
> it is listed on the IANA site as CRUDP.  So I assume that the 'crdup' as
> listed is a typo.  If someone could confirm this for me then I'll send in
> a pr.  And if this belongs to someone other than -doc, let me know that as
> well.

Googled for "IANA CRDUP" and got 4 links. One FreeBSD and two Linux
Mandrake and one I forget.  "IANA CRDUP" got 5 pages of links.  One
showed the OpenBSD has "crudp 127..." and not "crdup 127...".  Check
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On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 07:10:50PM -0800, Jim Mock wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 at 16:20:01 -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote:

> >  Was this the section I recent moved into the handbook, if so i'm very
> >  sorry that I didn't catch these at first, mainly since Murray said on
> >  the pr that it looked good, I thought nothing needed working on :)
> 
> Which is also the reason that I didn't look at it in very much detail
> before I committed it, though I should probably know better :-)

Well, I have a hard time to keep the German translation in
sync with the handbook and there is not much left to do in
the original sources.  In this case, I'm glad you left a nit
for me to pick :)

Martin

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> If any of you guys need any help translating
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> to start. What are the current projects? I can help
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Hi Jesus,

Please, contact doc@es.freebsd.org for spanish translations.

Thanks.

Saludos
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Warner,

I'd suggest to write a document about security-branches and their
meaning, as well as meaning of patch-levels. And a reference to it
to newsflash, docs.html and FAQ


On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 01:16:33AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> In message: <5.1.0.14.0.20020130005307.036f4e90@pop3s.schulte.org>
>             Christopher Schulte <schulte+freebsd@nospam.schulte.org> writes:
> : 4.4-RELEASEp1 would be the 1st commit to RELENG_4_4 (aka the security 
> : branch) after  RELENG_4_4_0_RELEASE (4.4-RELEASE).
> 
> "commit" here is subjective.  Sometimes it can be multiple events that
> comprise a logical commit.  But that is an excellent first order
> approximation.
> 
> Warner
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>Number:         34524
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] - Add important pre-installation notice
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Feb 01 02:30:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Hiten Pandya
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
The FreeBSD Project
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD hpdi.ath.cx 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Wed Jan 30 02:25:36 GMT 2002 root@hpdi.ath.cx:/c1/obj/data/dev/src/sys/CURRENT5 i386

>Description:

	The below patch will add an important <note> section which will
	remind the users to update their firmwares before installing
	FreeBSD, as this could be a problem.

	Half the PRs in the Database, are lying their becuase the users
	did not update their Firmware BIOS, and stuff..

	Hope it gets in ;)

	-- Hiten Pandya
	-- <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	n/a
>Fix:

--- chapter.sgml	Fri Feb  1 09:51:03 2002
+++ chapter.sgml.new	Fri Feb  1 10:14:32 2002
@@ -4553,6 +4553,13 @@
       questions and answers for people wishing to dual-boot FreeBSD with
       MS-DOS.</para>
 
+    <note>
+      <para>It is very important, that you apply the neccessary firmware
+      updates before starting the installation, or if you encounter a
+      problem booting-strapping the system.  By ensuring this, you can
+      save yourself a lot of problems in the future.</para>
+    </note>
+    
     <sect2>
       <title>What to Do If Something Goes Wrong...</title>
 
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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Hiten is going to come up with a Handbook / FAQ entry for this.

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hi Sheldon,

> Ah, then perhaps that's another issue to be
> addressed.
> 
> I think the Handbook should be the canonical
> resource that offers, for
> any given issue, the information most folks are
> going to need.

indeed ;)

> Cases like the one in this PR, where a common but
> silly mistake or
> known-flakey hardware cause problems, should be
> documented in the FAQ.

True, the reason I am saying about the handbook, is
because it is available in bookstores, and people feel
that their problems will be solved if they read off
from the hard copy.. well.. most :)

But FAQ is also neccessary
 
> So I think this particular case should be documented
> in the
> Troubleshooting or Installation section of the FAQ,
> and the Installation
> section of the Handbook should refer to the FAQ for
> "more information on
> common problems encountered during installation".

OK, for that, I have already made a diff for the
Installation chapter of the Handbook.  The diff
is sent as a Problem Report docs/34524.  The FAQ
entry is going to be sent as a followup to the
above mentioned PR. :)

[ I've also CC'ed this copy to freebsd-doc ]

Regards,

 - Hiten Pandya
 - <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>

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The release announce.html for 4.5 does not have a pointer to the
release notes :-(

a friend who will most likely migrate from Linux to FreeBSD asked me
today, where the diferences of 4.4 and 4.5 are.

I pointed at
releases/4.5R/http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/relnotes-i386.html
bu then realized that the announce.html had no link that could
possibly lead someone to the release notes!

Do you think we should link to the release notes from the text of the
announcement?

- Giorgos



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The following reply was made to PR docs/34524; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Hiten Pandya <hiten@pittgoth.com>
To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
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Subject: re: docs/34524 (FAQ addition)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:15:17 -0500 (EST)

 hi,
 I h've finally made the FAQ entry as well, just
 as pointed out by sheldon. Please do not hesitate
 to contact me, for suggestions/comments/critics. ;)
 
 regards,
 
  - Hiten
  - <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
 
 --- book.sgml   Thu Jan 31 03:18:44 2002
 +++ book.sgml.new       Fri Feb  1 07:50:01 2002
 @@ -84,7 +84,7 @@
             indirectly on William Jolitz's port of U.C.  Berkeley's
             <quote>Net/2</quote> to the i386, known as
             <quote>386BSD</quote>, though very little of the 386BSD
 -           code remains.  A fuller description of what FreeBSD is and
 +           code remains.  A full description of what FreeBSD is and
             how it can work for you may be found on the <ulink
             URL="../../../../index.html">FreeBSD home
             page</ulink>.</para>
 @@ -1159,6 +1159,23 @@
                  FreeBSD</ulink>.</para>
              </listitem>
            </itemizedlist>
 +        </answer>
 +      </qandaentry>
 +
 +      <qanaentry>
 +        <question id="install-failure">
 +          <para>Why does the installation fail at startup (during the PnP
 +          scan)?</para>
 +        </question>
 +
 +        <answer>
 +          <para>Many Problem Reports have been filed mentioning that the
 +          installation failed at startup, during the PnP scan. Make sure you
 +          have applied all the latest <literal>BIOS</literal> firmware
 +          updates, and other firmware updates for your hardware.  If you are
 +          still experiencing problems, please submit a
 +          <ulink url="http://www.FreeBSD.org/send-pr.html">Problem Report
 +          </ulink>, so that it can be analyzed.
          </answer>
        </qandaentry>
 
 The above patch should be applied to the FreeBSD FAQ, and it
 will be added into the installation section.

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On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 05:20:02AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote:

>  -           code remains.  A fuller description of what FreeBSD is and
>  +           code remains.  A full description of what FreeBSD is and
>              how it can work for you may be found on the <ulink
>              URL="../../../../index.html">FreeBSD home
>              page</ulink>.</para>

IMO, the comparitive is more appropriate than 'full'

>  +      <qanaentry>

Surely this should be <qandaentry>?  Did you test this?

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34524; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Ceri <ceri@techsupport.co.uk>
To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org
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Subject: Re: docs/34524: [PATCH] - Add important pre-installation notice
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:40:09 +0000

 On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:22:50AM +0000, hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org said:
 >  
 > +      problem booting-strapping the system.  By ensuring this, you can
 
 Don't like it.
 
 Should be boot-strapping or bootstrapping or even just booting, but
 not booting-strapping :)
 
 Ceri

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On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:32:26AM +0000, Ceri wrote:
> How do I deal with references to manual pages installed by ports ?
> Someone.  Please.  Help.

The message from me at

    http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D167716+0+/usr/local/www/d=
b/text/2001/freebsd-doc/20010527.freebsd-doc

has some suggestions about how we handle non-FreeBSD manpage references
in the documentation.

Comments?

For the specific examples of ports man pages, I think something like:

    &man.ports.net.isc-dhcp3.dhcpd.5;

is going to be necessary.  This could then expand to something like:

    <citerefentry>
      <refentrytitle>dhcpd</refentrytitle>
      <manvolnum>5</manvolnum>
    </citerefentry><footnote>
      <para>From <filename class=3D"port">net/isc-dhcp3</filename></para>
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> This is kind of a late hit, but should ghostscript-gnu get a
> PORTREVISION bump?

Thanks Bruce, I've done this now (email sent to you twice for the
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>Number:         34529
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [patch] Grammar nits in usbd.conf(5) and usbd(8)
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Feb 01 06:20:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     David Siebörger
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE i386
>Organization:
Rhodes University Computer Users Society
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD bashir.dsl.ru.ac.za 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #1: Tue Jan 29 19:22:38 SAST 2002 drs@bashir.dsl.ru.ac.za:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BASHIR i386

>Description:
Fixes for a few grammar mistakes in usbd manual pages.

>How-To-Repeat:
man 5 usbd.conf
man 8 usbd

>Fix:

--- usr.sbin/usbd/usbd.conf.5.orig	Thu Aug 16 17:56:41 2001
+++ usr.sbin/usbd/usbd.conf.5	Fri Feb  1 15:57:51 2002
@@ -64,7 +64,7 @@
 There are 3 types of fields:
 descriptive fields, selection criteria and commands to execute on
 events.
-The field name is case sensitive and should be all lower case.
+The field names are case sensitive and should be all lower case.
 Each field can have one or more arguments.
 .Pp
 The following fields are available:
@@ -74,11 +74,11 @@
 .Ar string
 is an arbitrary string used for pretty printing.
 .It product Ar id
-Product Id
+Product ID
 .It vendor Ar id
-Vendor Id
+Vendor ID
 .It release Ar id
-Release Id, also called revision Id sometimes.
+Release ID, also called revision ID sometimes.
 .It class Ar id
 Device Class
 .It subclass Ar id
@@ -156,8 +156,8 @@
 .Xr usbd 8 ,
 .Xr usbdevs 8
 .Sh BUGS
-It is currently not possible to use a selection criterium more than once. For
-example it is not possible to specify more than one vendor Id.
+It is currently not possible to use a selection criterion more than once. For
+example, it is not possible to specify more than one vendor ID.
 .Sh AUTHORS
-The man page for the usbd configuration file was written by
+The manual page for the usbd configuration file was written by
 .An Nick Hibma Aq n_hibma@FreeBSD.org .
--- usr.sbin/usbd/usbd.8.orig	Thu Aug 16 17:56:41 2001
+++ usr.sbin/usbd/usbd.8	Fri Feb  1 15:57:51 2002
@@ -56,7 +56,7 @@
 Through opening the
 .Pa /dev/usb0 ,
 .Pa /dev/usb1 ,
-etc. devices, it enables the kernel to do handle change requests from
+etc. devices, it enables the kernel to handle change requests from
 attached hubs.
 This functionality will be removed when the kernel has
 kernel threads.
@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@
 Whenever a device is attached or
 detached the list of actions read from
 .Pa /etc/usbd.conf
-are searched for a matching entry.
+is searched for a matching entry.
 If found, the corresponding action is
 executed.
 .Pp
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34487; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Xavier Beaudouin <kiwi@caudium.net>
To: Hiten Pandya <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
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Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:15:42 +0100 (CET)

 Hi !
 
 >
 > As agreed above, by the originator, the problem/issue is
 > resolved, and all neccessary *new* firmware updates were
 > applied.
 >
 > If the originator agrees, this PR can be successfully closed,
 > and I will take the point to document this problem in the
 > Handbook, as my next patch to the FreeBSD-Doc list.
 
 This is ok for me, the upgrade of the SCSI bios with v1013 of the bios
 totaly solve this problem...
 
 > This also suggests that we put up a "Troubleshooting" section
 > in the installation chapter of the handbook. This goes to
 > murray and the -doc team ;)
 
 This is maybe a good idea... because I wasn't able to find anything about
 this specific motherboard problem... and a little note about upgrading the
 bios should help people :)
 
 Thanks again :)
 /Xavier
 
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34524; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>
To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org
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Subject: Re: docs/34524: [PATCH] - Add important pre-installation notice 
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 07:44:58 -0800

 If memory serves me right, hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org wrote:
 
 > 	The below patch will add an important <note> section which will
 > 	remind the users to update their firmwares before installing
 > 	FreeBSD, as this could be a problem.
 
 I object to this change.  By insisting that users update their BIOS 
 before even trying to install FreeBSD, you're raising a considerable 
 barrier to entry.
 
 Certainly it is a good idea to point this out as a *possible* step to
 take in trying to troubleshoot an installation gone awry.  But that's
 very different from what you proposed.
 
 > 	Half the PRs in the Database, are lying their becuase the users
 > 	did not update their Firmware BIOS, and stuff.
 
 As someone who's made several sweeps through the PR database, I claim
 that "half" is a considerable exaggeration.
 
 You have to consider how many people install FreeBSD without any
 problems whatsoever, with their BIOS or anything else.  For all of those
 people, your change is going to result in wasted effort, plus raise the
 spectre of users accidentally causing their own problems while they try
 to hunt down BIOS images, flash their machines, etc.
 
 > 	Hope it gets in ;)
 
 I hope it doesn't, at least not in its current form.
 
 Can you try wording this in a less emphatic way?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bruce.
 
 

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Xavier Beaudouin wrote:

The following reply was made to PR docs/34487; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Xavier Beaudouin <kiwi@caudium.net>
To: Hiten Pandya <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
Cc: <bug-followup@FreeBSD.org>


It would be such a difficult task to document all the different hardware 
"make-me-work" 's that are availible.  And sometimes, you can blame 
install problems on RAM, which happened to me once when trying to 
extract into / and /usr from the cd, its been about 6 months since this 
last happened, so please do not expect my memory to be exact.

I would offer the idea of a 'hardware FAQ' or hardware 'article' which 
would help to document the various problems and installation methods of 
various hardware and hardware configurations.  But this will undoubtedly 
bring forth the problems of "who will" and "with what time", plus 
generate a task of keeping track of the many different hardware 
configurations, which would be very difficult if not nearly impossible.

A good resource for this type of documentation, as in gathering the 
information, would be hanging around the news groups gathering posts of 
hardware problems and how they were fixed, the various FreeBSD mailing 
lists, and even some #FreeBSD chat rooms throughout the IRC world.

Opinions, or am I just crazy?


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Bruce A. Mah wrote:

> The following reply was made to PR docs/34524; it has been noted by GNATS.
> 
> From: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG>


See my recent comment about a hardware FAQ or an idea, many companies 
have a hardware/software troubleshooting faq, tyan even emails you a 
mini "what to try" if you email the motherboard support sections of the 
site.  This information would most likly be a value to the FreeBSD 
community of both users/developers/and future converters who usually 
wonder "how hard will it be to make this work".


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Xavier Beaudouin wrote:

The following reply was made to PR docs/34487; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Xavier Beaudouin <kiwi@caudium.net>
To: Hiten Pandya <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
Cc: <bug-followup@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: re: kern/34487: ASUS P2B-DS Problem (Close Request)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:15:42 +0100 (CET)

  Hi !

  >
  > As agreed above, by the originator, the problem/issue is
  > resolved, and all neccessary *new* firmware updates were
  > applied.
  >
  > If the originator agrees, this PR can be successfully closed,
  > and I will take the point to document this problem in the
  > Handbook, as my next patch to the FreeBSD-Doc list.

  This is ok for me, the upgrade of the SCSI bios with v1013 of the bios
  totaly solve this problem...

  > This also suggests that we put up a "Troubleshooting" section
  > in the installation chapter of the handbook. This goes to
  > murray and the -doc team [;)]

  This is maybe a good idea... because I wasn't able to find anything about
  this specific motherboard problem... and a little note about upgrading the
  bios should help people [:)]

  Thanks again [:)]
  /Xavier

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It would be such a difficult task to document all the different hardware 
"make-me-work" 's that are availible.  And sometimes, you can blame 
install problems on RAM, which happened to me once when trying to 
extract into / and /usr from the cd, its been about 6 months since this 
last happened, so please do not expect my memory to be exact.

I would offer the idea of a 'hardware FAQ' or hardware 'article' which 
would help to document the various problems and installation methods of 
various hardware and hardware configurations.  But this will undoubtedly 
bring forth the problems of "who will" and "with what time", plus 
generate a task of keeping track of the many different hardware 
configurations, which would be very difficult if not nearly impossible.

A good resource for this type of documentation, as in gathering the 
information, would be hanging around the news groups gathering posts of 
hardware problems and how they were fixed, the various FreeBSD mailing 
lists, and even some #FreeBSD chat rooms throughout the IRC world.

Opinions, or am I just crazy?

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Xavier Beaudouin wrote:

The following reply was made to PR docs/34487; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Xavier Beaudouin <kiwi@caudium.net>
To: Hiten Pandya <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
Cc: <bug-followup@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: re: kern/34487: ASUS P2B-DS Problem (Close Request)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:15:42 +0100 (CET)

  Hi !

  >
  > As agreed above, by the originator, the problem/issue is
  > resolved, and all neccessary *new* firmware updates were
  > applied.
  >
  > If the originator agrees, this PR can be successfully closed,
  > and I will take the point to document this problem in the
  > Handbook, as my next patch to the FreeBSD-Doc list.

  This is ok for me, the upgrade of the SCSI bios with v1013 of the bios
  totaly solve this problem...

  > This also suggests that we put up a "Troubleshooting" section
  > in the installation chapter of the handbook. This goes to
  > murray and the -doc team [;)]

  This is maybe a good idea... because I wasn't able to find anything about
  this specific motherboard problem... and a little note about upgrading the
  bios should help people [:)]

  Thanks again [:)]
  /Xavier

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It would be such a difficult task to document all the different hardware 
"make-me-work" 's that are availible.  And sometimes, you can blame 
install problems on RAM, which happened to me once when trying to 
extract into / and /usr from the cd, its been about 6 months since this 
last happened, so please do not expect my memory to be exact.

I would offer the idea of a 'hardware FAQ' or hardware 'article' which 
would help to document the various problems and installation methods of 
various hardware and hardware configurations.  But this will undoubtedly 
bring forth the problems of "who will" and "with what time", plus 
generate a task of keeping track of the many different hardware 
configurations, which would be very difficult if not nearly impossible.

A good resource for this type of documentation, as in gathering the 
information, would be hanging around the news groups gathering posts of 
hardware problems and how they were fixed, the various FreeBSD mailing 
lists, and even some #FreeBSD chat rooms throughout the IRC world.

Opinions, or am I just crazy?

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Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> The release announce.html for 4.5 does not have a pointer to the
> release notes :-(
> 
> a friend who will most likely migrate from Linux to FreeBSD asked me
> today, where the diferences of 4.4 and 4.5 are.
> 
> I pointed at
> releases/4.5R/http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/relnotes-i386.html
> bu then realized that the announce.html had no link that could
> possibly lead someone to the release notes!
> 
> Do you think we should link to the release notes from the text of the
> announcement?
> 
> - Giorgos
> 
> 
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Who should submit the patch for this one?  Anyone want it, I could 
probly fit it in later on today ;)

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Xavier Beaudouin wrote:

> The following reply was made to PR docs/34487; it has been noted by GNATS.
> 
> From: Xavier Beaudouin <kiwi@caudium.net>
> To: Hiten Pandya <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
> Cc: <bug-followup@FreeBSD.org>
> Subject: re: kern/34487: ASUS P2B-DS Problem (Close Request)
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:15:42 +0100 (CET)
> 
>  Hi !
>  
>  >
>  > As agreed above, by the originator, the problem/issue is
>  > resolved, and all neccessary *new* firmware updates were
>  > applied.
>  >
>  > If the originator agrees, this PR can be successfully closed,
>  > and I will take the point to document this problem in the
>  > Handbook, as my next patch to the FreeBSD-Doc list.
>  
>  This is ok for me, the upgrade of the SCSI bios with v1013 of the bios
>  totaly solve this problem...
>  
>  > This also suggests that we put up a "Troubleshooting" section
>  > in the installation chapter of the handbook. This goes to
>  > murray and the -doc team ;)
>  
>  This is maybe a good idea... because I wasn't able to find anything about
>  this specific motherboard problem... and a little note about upgrading the
>  bios should help people :)
>  
>  Thanks again :)
>  /Xavier
>  
>  -- 
>  Xavier Beaudouin - Unix System Administrator & Projects Leader.
>  For mail address, please check header of this mails. Spams are not accepted.
>  Caudium: http://caudium.net/, CAMAS webmail: http://camas.caudium.net/
>  [ Little fortune now ]
>   Those who don't understand UNIX are doomed to reinvent it, poorly.
>   --Henry Spencer
>  
> 
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> 

It would be such a difficult task to document all the different hardware 
"make-me-work" 's that are availible.  And sometimes, you can blame 
install problems on RAM, which happened to me once when trying to 
extract into / and /usr from the cd, its been about 6 months since this 
last happened, so please do not expect my memory to be exact.

I would offer the idea of a 'hardware FAQ' or hardware 'article' which 
would help to document the various problems and installation methods of 
various hardware and hardware configurations.  But this will undoubtedly 
bring forth the problems of "who will" and "with what time", plus 
generate a task of keeping track of the many different hardware 
configurations, which would be very difficult if not nearly impossible.

A good resource for this type of documentation, as in gathering the 
information, would be hanging around the news groups gathering posts of 
hardware problems and how they were fixed, the various FreeBSD mailing 
lists, and even some #FreeBSD chat rooms throughout the IRC world.

Opinions, or am I just crazy?

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Has anyone ever verified this?  If so I will throw a patch togeather 
sometime soon, if not, then I will throw another hdd into my system and 
try the handbook steps one by one, documenting the outcome.  But, if 
someone can save me this hassle it would be nice hehe

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34529; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
To: =?ISO-8859-7?Q?David_Sieb=F6rger?= <drs@rucus.ru.ac.za>
Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/34529: [patch] Grammar nits in usbd.conf(5) and usbd(8)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 21:16:53 +0200 (EET)

 David Sieb=F6rger wrote:
 > --- usr.sbin/usbd/usbd.conf.5.orig=09Thu Aug 16 17:56:41 2001
 > +++ usr.sbin/usbd/usbd.conf.5=09Fri Feb  1 15:57:51 2002
 > @@ -64,7 +64,7 @@
 >  There are 3 types of fields:
 >  descriptive fields, selection criteria and commands to execute on
 >  events.
 > -The field name is case sensitive and should be all lower case.
 > +The field names are case sensitive and should be all lower case.
 
 Mmm, seems ok.
 
 > -Product Id=09> -Vendor Id=09> -Release Id
 > +Product ID=09> +Vendor ID=09> +Release ID
 
 Hum, capitalization is prime time flamefest/bikeshed material.
 I can't comment on this.  Someone with more 'english style' expertize
 will probably know better.
 
 > @@ -156,8 +156,8 @@
 >  .Xr usbd 8 ,
 >  .Xr usbdevs 8
 >  .Sh BUGS
 > -It is currently not possible to use a selection criterium more than once=
 =2E For
 > -example it is not possible to specify more than one vendor Id.
 > +It is currently not possible to use a selection criterion more than once=
 =2E For
 > +example, it is not possible to specify more than one vendor ID.
 
 >  .Sh AUTHORS
 > -The man page for the usbd configuration file was written by
 > +The manual page for the usbd configuration file was written by
 >  .An Nick Hibma Aq n_hibma@FreeBSD.org .
 
 Is this even necessary?  I haven't searched the sources for -all- the
 manpages to see which have an 'AUTHORS' section.  Others do have a
 section like that (ipfw.8 for instance).  What do others think?
 
 > --- usr.sbin/usbd/usbd.8.orig=09Thu Aug 16 17:56:41 2001
 > +++ usr.sbin/usbd/usbd.8=09Fri Feb  1 15:57:51 2002
 > @@ -56,7 +56,7 @@
 >  Through opening the
 >  .Pa /dev/usb0 ,
 >  .Pa /dev/usb1 ,
 > -etc. devices, it enables the kernel to do handle change requests from
 > +etc. devices, it enables the kernel to handle change requests from
 >  attached hubs.
 
 Good catch :)
 
 > @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@
 >  Whenever a device is attached or
 >  detached the list of actions read from
 >  .Pa /etc/usbd.conf
 > -are searched for a matching entry.
 > +is searched for a matching entry.
 >  If found, the corresponding action is
 >  executed.
 
 `The list .. is searched.'  This is correct as it is IMHO.
 I'm not a native speaker, and I might be wrong here, but this would
 probably look OK, if written as the following:
 
 =09Whenever a device is attached or detached,
 =09the list of actions (which is read from
 =09.Pa /etc/usbd.conf )
 =09is searched for a matching entry.
 
 or something similar.  What do you think?
 
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34524; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen)
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 hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org writes:
 
 > +    <note>
 > +      <para>It is very important, that you apply the neccessary firmware
 > +      updates before starting the installation, or if you encounter a
 > +      problem booting-strapping the system.  By ensuring this, you can
 > +      save yourself a lot of problems in the future.</para>
 > +    </note>
 
 Well, it DOES say "neccessary", so I guess it keeps the FDP blameless,
 but if it's necessary to mention BIOS upgrades, it probably ought to be
 longer than that, and change it from the form of a recommendation to
 that of a suggestion to consider the upgrade, listing pros and cons.
 
 I've read advice almost exactly to the contrary of the new note.
 Namely, that one NEVER apply updates until one becomes aware of a need
 for it.  I don't know the validity of that either, but it's been my
 practice too, mostly because of the danger of flubbing the BIOS burn and
 being shut down while arranging for a replacement BIOS.  Maybe suggest
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 version being used was tested against an old version of the BIOS, so the
 age of both should be a consideration in deciding to upgrade the BIOS.
 You probably know a few more pros and cons.
 
 BTW, fix spelling on "neccessary", and please take a minute to check
 spelling before submissions to avoid the hour another PR would take.
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David "Siebörger" <drs@rucus.ru.ac.za> writes:

> @@ -64,7 +64,7 @@
>  There are 3 types of fields:
>  descriptive fields, selection criteria and commands to execute on
>  events.
> -The field name is case sensitive and should be all lower case.
> +The field names are case sensitive and should be all lower case.
>  Each field can have one or more arguments.

This msg isn't so much a comment on these patches as on the man page
itself, in case someone has any interest in improving it.

I think the original (singular case) is better above, but either will do.
Entries have only one "field name" and IT IS case sensitive.  But the
plural sounds OK too.  I don't KNOW for sure which is correct.

I find the page's use of "field" erroneous; "entry" (which it uses
earlier) is probably more appropriate everywhere.  "Field" seems to
better connotate each non-delimiter between delimiters.  The first
field of an entry is the entry name (or identifier or ...).

I don't know why it bothers so say that fields can be descriptive fields
or selections criteria, as I don't see that it explains the difference
or which entries are which.

> -Product Id
> +Product ID

Is this a standard, or something?  I've been on projects that preferred
"Id" (but I like "ID").  Presuming there are no written standards to
cover such things, would having one reduce patching and/or discussion?

> -Release Id, also called revision Id sometimes.
> +Release ID, also called revision ID sometimes.

Or +Release ID, also called revision ID.  (If "sometimes" is supposed to
imply low frequency, "occasionally called..." would be better.)

> -The man page for the usbd configuration file was written by
> +The manual page for the usbd configuration file was written by

OK, but is there a standard on this.  Isn't "man page" VERY common?

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
>
>  > +    <note>
>  > +      <para>It is very important, that you apply the neccessary firmware
>  > +      updates before starting the installation, or if you encounter a
>  > +      problem booting-strapping the system.  By ensuring this, you can
>  > +      save yourself a lot of problems in the future.</para>
>  > +    </note>
>
>  I've read advice almost exactly to the contrary of the new note.
>  Namely, that one NEVER apply updates until one becomes aware of a need
>  for it.  I don't know the validity of that either, but it's been my
>  practice too, mostly because of the danger of flubbing the BIOS burn and
>  being shut down while arranging for a replacement BIOS.  Maybe suggest
>  that the BIOS changelog or upgrade notes be consulted, or ML archives.
>  Often, BIOS upgrades just tweak some rarely-used feature that is
>  serious, but only for a few users.  It's also possible that the kernel
>  version being used was tested against an old version of the BIOS, so the
>  age of both should be a consideration in deciding to upgrade the BIOS.
>  You probably know a few more pros and cons.
>

Agreed.  I do believe in my Asus motherboard manual it specifically states
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I think this belongs as a suggestion in the Installation
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Hello, all the illustrations are broken links, 
it makes the doc unreadable

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/x26.html

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Hi gang-

I'm having problems building a PDF rendering of the releng article using
an openjade-based toolchain.  (See output appended below.)

I think it's tickling a bug either in openjade or pdftex.  The problem
comes about when openjade tries to generate bookmarks in the PDF file
(see the log entry for doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl rev. 1.20).  The
sections entitled "Disc #1", "Disc #2", and "Discs #3 and #4" should get
similarly named bookmarks.  Instead, the bookmarks in article.tex-pdf
seem to be named "Disc \1", "Disc \2" and "Discs \3 and \4".  pdftex
seems to choke on the bookmarks (the first two bookmarks come out as
"Disc" and "Disc", and pdftex exits with a fatal error on the last one, 
although it does produce a PDF file).

If I remove the backslashes from the bookmarks in article.tex-pdf,
pdftex seems happy and it generates a PDF file with intact bookmarks.
Ditto if I remove the "#" characters from the section titles in the
original article.sgml file.

The easiest workaround is probably to get rid of the "#" characters in
the article, but, well, this just seems dumb.  I don't know openjade
or pdftex well enough to fix the root problem.  Any suggestions?

Bruce.

PS.  I've come to the conclusion that murray brings out the worst in the
PDF-building doc toolchain.  :-)  :-)  :-)

-----

==> PDFTeX pass 3/3
/usr/local/bin/pdftex "&pdfjadetex" ' \nonstopmode\input{article.tex-pdf}'
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-13d (Web2C 7.3.1)
[/usr/local/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg]
JadeTeX 2001/07/19: 3.11

(article.tex-pdf (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/t1ptm.fd)
Elements will be labelled
Jade begin document sequence at 20
(article.aux) (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/cyrillic/t2acmr.fd)
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/ts1cmr.fd)
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/supp-mis.tex
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)
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mf/dvips/config/pdftex.map]] (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/ts1ptm.fd
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Overfull \hbox (9.90002pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 1182--1235
 [] 
Error (1024): PDF version 1.3 -- xpdf supports version 1.2 (continuing anyway)
<branches.pdf 437.635pt, 321.2pt, obj 206> <use branches.pdf> [3.0.59] [4.0.59 
<./branches.pdf>] [5.0.59] [6.0.59] [7.0.59]
! Undefined control sequence.
\HeadingText ->3.4.3 Discs \3 and \4
                                    
l.3629 \endHeadPar{}
                    \endSeq{}\Node%
[8.0.59] [9.0.59] [10.0.59] (article.aux) )
(see the transcript file for additional information)<8r.enc>
Output written on article.pdf (10 pages, 80433 bytes).
Transcript written on article.log.
*** Error code 1

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On 2002-02-01 12:58, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:

> > -The man page for the usbd configuration file was written by
> > +The manual page for the usbd configuration file was written by
> 
> OK, but is there a standard on this.  Isn't "man page" VERY common?

Well, he's right in a sense.  I always meant to change "manpage" and
"man page" to "manual page" in the docs, in a sweep.  But somehow I
feel I'd better wait and change bits and pieces here and there, paying
attention to correct manpage and 'man page' as I make other changes too.

- Giorgos


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On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org wrote:

> +    <note>
> +      <para>It is very important, that you apply the neccessary firmware
> +      updates before starting the installation, or if you encounter a
> +      problem booting-strapping the system.  By ensuring this, you can
> +      save yourself a lot of problems in the future.</para>
> +    </note>

The following patch removes the suggestion that everyone should upgrade
their BIOS before installation (oh, the horror!) and contains no spelling
mistakes or grammatical errors that I can see.  Both of these do, I
believe, set it apart from the original patch and thus I present it for
review.

As usual, a copy is available as the top link at:
http://www.openirc.co.uk/freebsd/

--- chapter.sgml	Thu Oct 25 09:27:51 2001
+++ chapter.sgml.new	Sat Feb  2 00:50:00 2002
@@ -4432,6 +4432,20 @@
       questions and answers for people wishing to dual-boot FreeBSD with
       MS-DOS.</para>

+    <note>
+      <para>Many installation problems can be avoided or alleviated by
+        updating the firmware on various hardware components, most notably
+        the motherboard.  If the installation fails to work then updating
+        the BIOS may solve the problem.  Refer to your motherboard
+        manufacturer's website for information on BIOS revisions and upgrade
+        instructions.</para>
+      <para>Most manufacturers strongly advise against upgrading motherboard
+        BIOSs unless you have a good reason for doing so.  The
+        process <emphasis>CAN</emphasis> go wrong, causing the BIOS to be
+        destroyed permanently.  Therefore <emphasis>DO NOT</emphasis> do
+        this unless you believe it will solve your problem.</para>
+    </note>
+
     <sect2>
       <title>What to Do If Something Goes Wrong...</title>

---end diff---

Comments/suggestions?

-- 
Andrew McKay <andy@openirc.co.uk>


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The following reply was made to PR docs/34524; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Andrew McKay <andy@openirc.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: docs/34524: [PATCH] - Add important pre-installation notice
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 01:07:35 +0000 (GMT)

 On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org wrote:
 
 > +    <note>
 > +      <para>It is very important, that you apply the neccessary firmware
 > +      updates before starting the installation, or if you encounter a
 > +      problem booting-strapping the system.  By ensuring this, you can
 > +      save yourself a lot of problems in the future.</para>
 > +    </note>
 
 The following patch removes the suggestion that everyone should upgrade
 their BIOS before installation (oh, the horror!) and contains no spelling
 mistakes or grammatical errors that I can see.  Both of these do, I
 believe, set it apart from the original patch and thus I present it for
 review.
 
 As usual, a copy is available as the top link at:
 http://www.openirc.co.uk/freebsd/
 
 --- chapter.sgml	Thu Oct 25 09:27:51 2001
 +++ chapter.sgml.new	Sat Feb  2 00:50:00 2002
 @@ -4432,6 +4432,20 @@
        questions and answers for people wishing to dual-boot FreeBSD with
        MS-DOS.</para>
 
 +    <note>
 +      <para>Many installation problems can be avoided or alleviated by
 +        updating the firmware on various hardware components, most notably
 +        the motherboard.  If the installation fails to work then updating
 +        the BIOS may solve the problem.  Refer to your motherboard
 +        manufacturer's website for information on BIOS revisions and upgrade
 +        instructions.</para>
 +      <para>Most manufacturers strongly advise against upgrading motherboard
 +        BIOSs unless you have a good reason for doing so.  The
 +        process <emphasis>CAN</emphasis> go wrong, causing the BIOS to be
 +        destroyed permanently.  Therefore <emphasis>DO NOT</emphasis> do
 +        this unless you believe it will solve your problem.</para>
 +    </note>
 +
      <sect2>
        <title>What to Do If Something Goes Wrong...</title>
 
 ---end diff---
 
 Comments/suggestions?
 
 -- 
 Andrew McKay <andy@openirc.co.uk>
 

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We've had more complaints about seemingly missing images.  The appended 
typescript may be of interest.

Is there something wrong with the doc toolchain on freefall?

Bruce.

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/usr/local/www/data
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Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> writes:

>  Hum, capitalization is prime time flamefest/bikeshed material.
>  I can't comment on this.  Someone with more 'english style' expertize
>  will probably know better.

My dictionary from early 70s says I.D., but I'll bet that's obsolete.

>  >  .Sh AUTHORS
>  > -The man page for the usbd configuration file was written by
>  > +The manual page for the usbd configuration file was written by
>  >  .An Nick Hibma Aq n_hibma@FreeBSD.org .
>  
>  Is this even necessary?  I haven't searched the sources for -all- the
>  manpages to see which have an 'AUTHORS' section.  Others do have a
>  section like that (ipfw.8 for instance).  What do others think?

It's not necessary, but is low cost and may tend to broaden the pool of
man page writer to include more GOOD man page writers.  The compromise
position is to keep it only in the man page "source code".

I do think it should be careful to call (after the can't-change section 
title) the author the "initial author" or "creator" or it was first
authored by so-and-so, so that that person can't be blamed for things
that creep in during maintenance.

Without a better place for it, this section (in every man page) should
probably also say what group(s) or person(s) maintain the man page.

>  > @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@
>  >  Whenever a device is attached or
>  >  detached the list of actions read from
>  >  .Pa /etc/usbd.conf
>  > -are searched for a matching entry.
>  > +is searched for a matching entry.
>  >  If found, the corresponding action is
>  >  executed.
>  
>  `The list .. is searched.'  This is correct as it is IMHO.
>  I'm not a native speaker, and I might be wrong here, but this would
>  probably look OK, if written as the following:
>  
>  =09Whenever a device is attached or detached,
>  =09the list of actions (which is read from
>  =09.Pa /etc/usbd.conf )
>  =09is searched for a matching entry.
>  
>  or something similar.  What do you think?

Either is acceptable (though the parens might better be commas), but I
like his patch as it is.  I might have removed "read from
/etc/usbd.conf" as it should be obvious (but I don't have the context in
front of me).  Generally, I'd prefer man pages referred to the thing
they are documenting as "this file" or "this command" instead of
"/etc/usbd.conf" or "the usbd command", but that's just an opinion.

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Andrew McKay <andy@openirc.co.uk> writes:

> +    <note>
> +      <para>Many installation problems can be avoided or alleviated by
> +        updating the firmware on various hardware components, most notably
> +        the motherboard.  If the installation fails to work then updating
> +        the BIOS may solve the problem.  Refer to your motherboard
> +        manufacturer's website for information on BIOS revisions and upgrade
> +        instructions.</para>
> +      <para>Most manufacturers strongly advise against upgrading motherboard
> +        BIOSs unless you have a good reason for doing so.  The
> +        process <emphasis>CAN</emphasis> go wrong, causing the BIOS to be
> +        destroyed permanently.  Therefore <emphasis>DO NOT</emphasis> do
> +        this unless you believe it will solve your problem.</para>
> +    </note>

Looks good to me.  I tend to not like preachy docs, so I'd probably
leave out that last bit of advice, but it's OK.  And I'd change
"fails to work" to "fails,", but that's OK as-is too.  One more --
I'd probably change "Many" to "Some" at the beginning.  No need to
waste time on it further if you'd rather not change it or disagree.

(Is this what they call bikeshedding, or is it more-or-less welcome?)

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If memory serves me right, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> 
> > The release announce.html for 4.5 does not have a pointer to the
> > release notes :-(

[snip]

> Who should submit the patch for this one?  Anyone want it, I could 
> probly fit it in later on today ;)

Done.

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>Number:         34547
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [patch] edits of FAQ Introduction
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Feb 01 22:50:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Jay Edwards
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
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>Description:
	in 1.5:
		-- change "and/or" to "and" or "or"
		-- remove reference to native language when explaining dual meaning of "free"
		-- replace "you really can do" with "you can do"
	in 1.6:
		-- change "Briefly explained" to "Briefly"
		-- remove reference to "ISP or corporate user"; any type of user could use STABLE
		-- replace "low change count" with "minimal number of changes"
		-- replace "wizzy" with "new (and possibly unstable)
		-- rewrite last sentence in second para to elimiate a lot of "you"s
		-- change "Releases are only made" to "Releases are made"
	in 1.7:
		-- change "are sometimes treated" with "may be treated"
		-- remove "Nowadays"
		-- change "are now being made available" with "are available"
		-- change "and/or" to "and" or "or"
		-- change "bootstrapping it onto" to "installing it on"
		-- change "preserve" to "maintain"; implies an ongoing process 
		-- change "code in question" to "branch in question"
		-- remove use of "we"
		-- remove use of "like"
		-- change "any new feature in need of testing" with "all new features and fixes"
		-- change "once a day" with "daily"
	in 1.9:
		-- change "As a general principle" with "As a rule"
		-- make "FreeBSD core team" agree with verb
		-- change "when they believe that" with "when"
		-- change "and/or" to "and"
		-- major rewrite of the rest of the first sentence; emphasise stability and testing 
		-- change "the people working" to "the developers working"
		-- change "although" to "though" 
		-- remove "on average"
		-- change "every day" to "daily"
	in 1.11:
		-- change "once a day" to "daily"
		-- change "once a day" to "every day"
		-- change "being of service purely" to "only useful"

There are possibly other minor changes that have not been documented.  If you accept my patch, PLEASE look for whitespace issues carefully, jade is currently broken on my CURRENT so I couldn't build it.
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34547; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Jay Edwards <jayed@jayed.com>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
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Subject: Re:docs/34547: [patch] edits of FAQ Introduction
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 01:56:47 -0600

 (Oops.  Forgot the patch).
 
 Index: book.sgml
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v
 retrieving revision 1.400
 diff -c -r1.400 book.sgml
 *** book.sgml	2002/02/02 00:43:51	1.400
 --- book.sgml	2002/02/02 06:15:14
 ***************
 *** 225,244 ****
               </listitem>
 <listitem>
 !               <para>Anyone who has an improvement and/or bug fix is free
                   to submit their code and have it added to the source tree
                   (subject to one or two obvious provisions).</para>
 </listitem>
 </itemizedlist>
 !           <para>For those of our readers whose first language is not
 !             English, it may be worth pointing out that the word
 !             <quote>free</quote> is being used in two ways here, one meaning
 !             <quote>at no cost</quote>, the other meaning <quote>you can do
 !             whatever you like</quote>.  Apart from one or two things you
 !             <emphasis>cannot</emphasis> do with the FreeBSD code, for
 !             example pretending you wrote it, you really can do whatever you
 !             like with it.</para>
 </answer>
 </qandaentry>
 --- 225,242 ----
               </listitem>
 <listitem>
 !               <para>Anyone who has an improvement or bug fix is free
                   to submit their code and have it added to the source tree
                   (subject to one or two obvious provisions).</para>
 </listitem>
 </itemizedlist>
 !             <para>It is worth pointing out that the word <quote>free</quote>
 !             is being used in two ways here, one meaning <quote>at no cost
 !             </quote>, the other meaning <quote>you can do whatever you like
 !             Apart from one or two things you <emphasis>cannot</emphasis>
 !             do with the FreeBSD code (for example, pretending that you
 !             wrote it, you can do whatever you like with it.</para>
 </answer>
 </qandaentry>
 ***************
 *** 254,270 ****
               released in &rel.current.date;. This is also the latest
               <emphasis>RELEASE</emphasis> version.</para>
 !           <para>Briefly explained, <emphasis>-STABLE</emphasis> is aimed
 !             at the ISP or other corporate user who wants stability and a
 !             low change count over the wizzy new features of the latest
 !             <emphasis>-CURRENT</emphasis> snapshot.  Releases can come
 !             from either branch, but you should only use
 !             <emphasis>-CURRENT</emphasis> if you are sure that you are
 !             prepared for its increased volatility (relative to
 !             <emphasis>-STABLE</emphasis>, that is).</para>
 !           <para>Releases are only made <link linkend="release-freq">every
 !             few months</link>. While many people stay more up-to-date with
               the FreeBSD sources (see the questions on <link
               linkend="current">FreeBSD-CURRENT</link> and <link
               linkend="stable">FreeBSD-STABLE</link>) than that, doing so
 --- 252,267 ----
               released in &rel.current.date;. This is also the latest
               <emphasis>RELEASE</emphasis> version.</para>
 !           <para>Briefly, <emphasis>-STABLE</emphasis> is aimed at the user
 !             who wants stability and a minimal number of changes more than
 !             they want the new (and possibly unstable) features of the
 !             latest <emphasis>-CURRENT</emphasis> snapshot.  Releases can
 !             come from either branch, but <emphasis>-CURRENT</emphasis>
 !             should only be used if you are prepared for its increased
 !             volatility (relative to <emphasis>-STABLE</emphasis>, that 
 is.</para>
 !           <para>Releases are made <link linkend="release-freq">every few 
 !             months</link>. While many people stay more up-to-date with
               the FreeBSD sources (see the questions on <link
               linkend="current">FreeBSD-CURRENT</link> and <link
               linkend="stable">FreeBSD-STABLE</link>) than that, doing so
 ***************
 *** 299,313 ****
               analyze any problems and only report them if they are deemed
               to be mistakes rather than <quote>glitches</quote>. Questions
               such as <quote>make world produces some error about
 !             groups</quote> on the -CURRENT mailing list are sometimes
 !             treated with contempt.</para>
 <para>Every day, <ulink
               URL="../../../../releases/snapshots.html">snapshot
               </ulink> releases are made based on the current state of the
 !             -CURRENT and -STABLE branches. Nowadays, distributions of the
 !             occasional snapshot are now being made available. The goals
 !             behind each snapshot release are:</para>
 <itemizedlist>
 <listitem>
 --- 296,310 ----
               analyze any problems and only report them if they are deemed
               to be mistakes rather than <quote>glitches</quote>. Questions
               such as <quote>make world produces some error about
 !             groups</quote> on the -CURRENT mailing list may be treated
 !             with contempt.</para>
 <para>Every day, <ulink
               URL="../../../../releases/snapshots.html">snapshot
               </ulink> releases are made based on the current state of the
 !             -CURRENT and -STABLE branches. Distributions of the
 !             occasional snapshot are available. The goals behind each
 !             snapshot release are:</para>
 <itemizedlist>
 <listitem>
 ***************
 *** 317,338 ****
   
               <listitem>
 <para>To give people who would like to run -CURRENT or
 !                 -STABLE but who do not have the time and/or bandwidth to
                   follow it on a day-to-day basis an easy way of
 !                 bootstrapping it onto their systems.</para>
 </listitem>
 <listitem>
 !               <para>To preserve a fixed reference point for the code in
 !                 question, just in case we break something really badly
 !                 later.  (Although CVS normally prevents anything horrible
 !                 like this happening :)</para>
 </listitem>
 <listitem>
 !               <para>To ensure that any new features in need of testing
 !                 have the greatest possible number of potential
 !                 testers.</para>
 </listitem>
 </itemizedlist>
 --- 314,334 ----
   
               <listitem>
 <para>To give people who would like to run -CURRENT or
 !                 -STABLE but who do not have the time or bandwidth to
                   follow it on a day-to-day basis an easy way of
 !                 installing it on their systems.</para>
 </listitem>
 <listitem>
 !               <para>To maintain a fixed reference point for the branch in
 !                 question, just in case something gets very badly broken
 !                 later.  (Although CVS normally prevents anything this
 !                 horrible from happening :)</para>
 </listitem>
 <listitem>
 !               <para>To ensure that all new features and fixes have the
 !                 greatest possible number of potential testers.</para>
 </listitem>
 </itemizedlist>
 ***************
 *** 350,357 ****
               3-STABLE snapshots are not being produced at the time of
               this writing (May 2000).</para>
 !           <para>Snapshots are generated, on the average, once a day for
 !             all actively developed branches.</para>
 </answer>
 </qandaentry>
 --- 346,353 ----
               3-STABLE snapshots are not being produced at the time of
               this writing (May 2000).</para>
 !           <para>Snapshots are usually generated daily for all
 !             actively developed branches.</para>
 </answer>
 </qandaentry>
 ***************
 *** 431,453 ****
           </question>
 <answer>
 !           <para>As a general principle, the FreeBSD core team only release
 !             a new version of FreeBSD when they believe that there are
 !             sufficient new features and/or bug fixes to justify one, and
 !             are satisfied that these new developments have been tested
 !             sufficiently to avoid compromising the stability of the
 !             release.  Release dates are generally announced well in
 !             advance, so that the people working on the system know
 !             when their projects need to be finished and tested.  
 !             Many users regard this caution as one of the best
 !             things about FreeBSD, although 
 !             waiting for all the latest goodies to reach -STABLE
 !             can be a little frustrating.</para>
 !           <para>Releases are made about every 4 months on average.</para>
 <para>For people who need or want a little more excitement,
 !             binary snapshots are made every day as discussed above.</para>
 </answer>
 </qandaentry>
 --- 427,448 ----
           </question>
 <answer>
 !           <para>As a rule, the FreeBSD core team only releases a new
 !             version of FreeBSD when there are a sufficient number of new
 !             features and bug fixes to justify it, and, more imprtantly,
 !             when they are satisfied that these changes have been
 !             thoroughly tested and do not compromise the stability of
 !             the release.  Release dates are generally announced well in
 !             advance so the developers know when their projects need to
 !             to be finished and tested.  Many users regard this caution 
 !             as one of the best things about FreeBSD, though waiting for
 !             all the latest goodies to reach -STABLE can be a little
 !             frustrating.</para>
 !           <para>Releases are made about every 4 months.</para>
 <para>For people who need or want a little more excitement,
 !             binary snapshots are made daily as discussed above.</para>
 </answer>
 </qandaentry>
 ***************
 *** 501,516 ****
               <listitem>
 <para><ulink
                   URL="ftp://releng4.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/">4.X
 !                 snapshots</ulink> are usually made once a day.</para>
 </listitem>
 <listitem>
 <para><ulink
                   URL="ftp://current.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/">
 5.0 Snapshot</ulink> releases are made once a day for the
 !                 <link linkend="current">-CURRENT</link> branch, these being
 !                 of service purely to bleeding-edge testers and
 !                 developers.</para>
 </listitem>
 </itemizedlist>
 --- 496,510 ----
               <listitem>
 <para><ulink
                   URL="ftp://releng4.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/">4.X
 !                 snapshots</ulink> are usually made daily.</para>
 </listitem>
 <listitem>
 <para><ulink
                   URL="ftp://current.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/">
 5.0 Snapshot</ulink> releases are made every day for the
 !                 <link linkend="current">-CURRENT</link> branch, these are
 !                 only useful to bleeding-edge testers and developers.</para>
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This looks much better to me.

One minor nit: you combine an emphasis and CAPITALS.  I'd just use
<emphasis>.  Combining italics and capitals isn't very
professional-looking.  It's like the use of multiple exclamation
points.

Gary, this isn't bikeshedding.  This is (please ignore) bikeshedding:

Also, the patch contains a lot of passive voice; rewrite it in active
voice.  Also, the fourth sentence and the fifth sentence should be
swapped.  Plus, we need links to various manufacturers' warnings to
this effect, as reinforcement.

See the difference?  :-)

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 06:21:18PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
> Andrew McKay <andy@openirc.co.uk> writes:
> 
> > +    <note>
> > +      <para>Many installation problems can be avoided or alleviated by
> > +        updating the firmware on various hardware components, most notably
> > +        the motherboard.  If the installation fails to work then updating
> > +        the BIOS may solve the problem.  Refer to your motherboard
> > +        manufacturer's website for information on BIOS revisions and upgrade
> > +        instructions.</para>
> > +      <para>Most manufacturers strongly advise against upgrading motherboard
> > +        BIOSs unless you have a good reason for doing so.  The
> > +        process <emphasis>CAN</emphasis> go wrong, causing the BIOS to be
> > +        destroyed permanently.  Therefore <emphasis>DO NOT</emphasis> do
> > +        this unless you believe it will solve your problem.</para>
> > +    </note>
> 
> Looks good to me.  I tend to not like preachy docs, so I'd probably
> leave out that last bit of advice, but it's OK.  And I'd change
> "fails to work" to "fails,", but that's OK as-is too.  One more --
> I'd probably change "Many" to "Some" at the beginning.  No need to
> waste time on it further if you'd rather not change it or disagree.
> 
> (Is this what they call bikeshedding, or is it more-or-less welcome?)
> 
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>Number:         34554
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Small error in the FAQ
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Feb 02 04:10:07 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net>
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 29 12:54:04 GMT 2002 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386


	
>Description:

The FAQ states that -STABLE was released in &rel.current.date;
-STABLE doesn't really get released, -RELEASE does.

Also, update the <copyright> now that it's 2002.

Ceri

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Read the FAQ Introduction.

>Fix:


--- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml.old	Sat Feb  2 11:46:26 2002
+++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml	Sat Feb  2 11:55:23 2002
@@ -31,6 +31,7 @@
       <year>1999</year>
       <year>2000</year>
       <year>2001</year>
+      <year>2002</year>
       <holder>The FreeBSD Documentation Project</holder>
     </copyright>
 
@@ -250,9 +251,9 @@
         <answer>
           <para>Version <ulink
             URL="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/&rel.current;-RELEASE/">&rel.current;</ulink>
-            is the latest <emphasis>STABLE</emphasis> version; it was
+            is the latest <emphasis>RELEASE</emphasis> version; it was
             released in &rel.current.date;. This is also the latest
-            <emphasis>RELEASE</emphasis> version.</para>
+            <emphasis>STABLE</emphasis> version.</para>
 
           <para>Briefly explained, <emphasis>-STABLE</emphasis> is aimed
             at the ISP or other corporate user who wants stability and a

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On 1 Feb 2002, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:

> Looks good to me.  I tend to not like preachy docs, so I'd probably
> leave out that last bit of advice, but it's OK.

See revised patch below.  Did you mean lose the whole second paragraph?
I think pointing out the seriousness of this step is important so I've
left in the bit about the fact that the process CAN go wrong but removed
the bit telling people not to do it.  I would hope that being told your
motherboard could be permanently destroyed pretty much implies 'do not do
this unless you have a compelling reason'.  The whole paragraph could go
if it's a problem.

> And I'd change "fails to work" to "fails,", but that's OK as-is too.
> One more -- I'd probably change "Many" to "Some" at the beginning.

Agreed.  'fails to work' sounds worse on a re-read and 'Many' implies a
greater frequency than is actually true.

> (Is this what they call bikeshedding, or is it more-or-less welcome?)

Constructive criticism is something that I always find worthwhile.  Thanks
:)

-<PATCH>- also at: http://www.openirc.co.uk/freebsd/install.diff

--- chapter.sgml	Sat Feb  2 12:18:14 2002
+++ chapter.sgml.new	Sat Feb  2 12:22:45 2002
@@ -4553,6 +4553,18 @@
       questions and answers for people wishing to dual-boot FreeBSD with
       MS-DOS.</para>

+    <note>
+      <para>Some installation problems can be avoided or alleviated by
+        updating the firmware on various hardware components, most notably the
+        motherboard.  If the installation fails then updating the BIOS may
+        solve the problem.  Refer to your motherboard manufacturer's website
+        for information on BIOS revisions and upgrade instructions.</para>
+      <para>Most manufacturers strongly advise against upgrading motherboard
+        BIOSs unless you have a good reason for doing so.  The
+        process <emphasis>CAN</emphasis> go wrong, causing the BIOS to be
+        permanently destroyed.</para>
+    </note>
+
     <sect2>
       <title>What to Do If Something Goes Wrong...</title>

-</PATCH>-

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34524; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Andrew McKay <andy@openirc.co.uk>
To: "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net>
Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, <freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>
Subject: Re: docs/34524: [PATCH] - Add important pre-installation notice
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 12:39:42 +0000 (GMT)

 On 1 Feb 2002, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
 
 > Looks good to me.  I tend to not like preachy docs, so I'd probably
 > leave out that last bit of advice, but it's OK.
 
 See revised patch below.  Did you mean lose the whole second paragraph?
 I think pointing out the seriousness of this step is important so I've
 left in the bit about the fact that the process CAN go wrong but removed
 the bit telling people not to do it.  I would hope that being told your
 motherboard could be permanently destroyed pretty much implies 'do not do
 this unless you have a compelling reason'.  The whole paragraph could go
 if it's a problem.
 
 > And I'd change "fails to work" to "fails,", but that's OK as-is too.
 > One more -- I'd probably change "Many" to "Some" at the beginning.
 
 Agreed.  'fails to work' sounds worse on a re-read and 'Many' implies a
 greater frequency than is actually true.
 
 > (Is this what they call bikeshedding, or is it more-or-less welcome?)
 
 Constructive criticism is something that I always find worthwhile.  Thanks
 :)
 
 -<PATCH>- also at: http://www.openirc.co.uk/freebsd/install.diff
 
 --- chapter.sgml	Sat Feb  2 12:18:14 2002
 +++ chapter.sgml.new	Sat Feb  2 12:22:45 2002
 @@ -4553,6 +4553,18 @@
        questions and answers for people wishing to dual-boot FreeBSD with
        MS-DOS.</para>
 
 +    <note>
 +      <para>Some installation problems can be avoided or alleviated by
 +        updating the firmware on various hardware components, most notably the
 +        motherboard.  If the installation fails then updating the BIOS may
 +        solve the problem.  Refer to your motherboard manufacturer's website
 +        for information on BIOS revisions and upgrade instructions.</para>
 +      <para>Most manufacturers strongly advise against upgrading motherboard
 +        BIOSs unless you have a good reason for doing so.  The
 +        process <emphasis>CAN</emphasis> go wrong, causing the BIOS to be
 +        permanently destroyed.</para>
 +    </note>
 +
      <sect2>
        <title>What to Do If Something Goes Wrong...</title>
 
 -</PATCH>-
 
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Synopsis: Small error in the FAQ

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This time I got the PR number right. Hurray :)
Thanks Ceri, I've updated the FAQ a few minutes ago.

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Hi,

The articles/releng build fails when .OBJDIR is different from .CURDIR,
i.e. when a build directory is used at all :)  Attached is a trivial
patch to fix the build.

G'luck,
Peter

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Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/Makefile
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.3 Makefile
--- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/Makefile	1 Feb 2002 19:17:41 -0000	1.3
+++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/Makefile	2 Feb 2002 15:39:07 -0000
@@ -21,7 +21,7 @@
 DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../..
 
 branches.eps: branches.pic
-	${PIC2PS} branches.pic > branches.ps
+	${PIC2PS} ${.CURDIR}/branches.pic > branches.ps
 	${PS2EPS} branches.ps branches.eps
 
 .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk"

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I've had to read the ISDN documentation lately, and I would like to put
forth my opinion on them.

Looking at the ISDN chapter in the handbook, talks about all sorts of
internal hardware, and a pointer to the ppp section for external TAs.
This is fine, but one thing that was not immediately clear to me was if
PPP was the only thing I needed to muck around with to make ISDN go
(with my TA). Possilby a sentence like:
-->
If you have an external isdn modem (technincally a "Terminal Adapter"),
stop reading this chapter now and go read the ppp section. As far as
freebsd is concerned, an ISDN TA is just another modem, and can be
configured as such. If you have an internal PCI or ISA isdn card, read
on.
<-- at the beginning of the chapter.

Likewise, a similar message in LINT telling people not to bother
including any of the isdn stuff if you have an external TA. (some of
which are imho marked rather misleadingly as "mandatory".

Do correct me if I have assumed wrong. I've based my conclusions on the
fact that most posts about external TAs on -isdn seem to get a "This has
nothing to do with -isdn, take it to -questions" type response.

Oh, and I remember a bit that went something like "most people prefer to
use kernel ppp instead of the userland iij-ppp". I believe it was in the
ISDN chapter, or was it in the ppp section? I forget, sorry. Anyway,
this question seems to run contratry to the current trend wrt kernel vs
user ppp, and I believe that "iij-ppp"'s fuctionality is now achieved
with the base system's user ppp?

Again, do correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheers.

PS. For the record, I have not yet been able to get my TA to connect
properly. It connects, but right after authenticating successfully, says
no carrier found, and drops the connection. Maybe the TA: section in
ppp.conf.sample needs a look as well :).



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Committed, thanks!

   - Murray

On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 06:03:27PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> The articles/releng build fails when .OBJDIR is different from .CURDIR,
> i.e. when a build directory is used at all :)  Attached is a trivial
> patch to fix the build.

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If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote:
> Committed, thanks!

This is good.

Here's another oddity...when one goes to make a (you guessed it!) PDF
file, it looks like doc.images.mk doesn't know how to deal with the case
where a *.eps file was generated (i.e. it doesn't live in ${.CURDIR},
but it lives in ${.OBJDIR} instead).  So far I have seen this in exactly
one place, which is (you guessed it!) the releng article.

I'm not sure what the right solution is.  I thought of changing IMAGES 
to read:

	IMAGES=	${.OBJDIR}/branches.eps

But this doesn't work because doc.images.mk wants to slap ${.CURDIR} on 
the front of this anyways.

Bruce.

PS.  I swear to ${DIETY}, I'm not hunting for these problems...they're
just showing up.  :-)

PS.  In case you're wondering, I'm working on a side project in my (ha!)
spare time to make a "doc release" ISO, which contains html, txt, and
pdf versions of the doc/ tree, or at least as much of it as I can get to
build.  It's roughly analogous to "cd / usr/src/release; make release",
but for doc/.  The en docs are mostly fine, not sure how well the
toolchain can handle non-en docs.




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On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 11:25:09AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> I'm not sure what the right solution is.  I thought of changing IMAGES 
> to read:
> 
> 	IMAGES=	${.OBJDIR}/branches.eps
> 
> But this doesn't work because doc.images.mk wants to slap ${.CURDIR} on 
> the front of this anyways.

  Yea.  IMAGES should only really be for images in the repository.  We
will need to add some more GEN_IMAGE glue to treat this as a generated
image.

	- Murray

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There's an open PR about this docs/32451.  So whoever fixes this issue can
close that as well :)

I built and installed the www tree locally when this PR showed up with no
problems.  It's a problem somewhere on freefall.

- chern

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Bruce A. Mah wrote:

> We've had more complaints about seemingly missing images.  The appended
> typescript may be of interest.
>
> Is there something wrong with the doc toolchain on freefall?
>
> Bruce.
>
> -----
>
> freefall:data% pwd
> /usr/local/www/data
> freefall:data% find . -size 0
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/fig1.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/fig2.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/fig3.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/fig4.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vinum/ad0b4aft.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vinum/ad2b4aft.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vinum/arch.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/branches.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/08-01.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/08-02.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/08-03.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/08-04.png
> ./doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/corp-net-guide/08-05.png
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On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Michael Lucas wrote:

> One minor nit: you combine an emphasis and CAPITALS.  I'd just use
> <emphasis>.  Combining italics and capitals isn't very
> professional-looking.  It's like the use of multiple exclamation
> points.

This should, therefore, be the best patch ever...being as it is the
combined efforts of me, Gary and Michael.  And yeah, I had reservations
about the combination of <emphasis> and CAPS but I went with it because
you can never have too much stress...or something :)

-<PATCH>- also at: http://www.openirc.co.uk/freebsd/install.diff

--- chapter.sgml	Sat Feb  2 12:18:14 2002
+++ chapter.sgml.new	Sat Feb  2 12:22:45 2002
@@ -4553,6 +4553,18 @@
       questions and answers for people wishing to dual-boot FreeBSD with
       MS-DOS.</para>

+    <note>
+      <para>Some installation problems can be avoided or alleviated by
+        updating the firmware on various hardware components, most notably the
+        motherboard.  If the installation fails then updating the BIOS may
+        solve the problem.  Refer to your motherboard manufacturer's website
+        for information on BIOS revisions and upgrade instructions.</para>
+      <para>Most manufacturers strongly advise against upgrading motherboard
+        BIOSs unless you have a good reason for doing so.  The
+        process <emphasis>can</emphasis> go wrong, causing the BIOS to be
+        permanently destroyed.</para>
+    </note>
+
     <sect2>
       <title>What to Do If Something Goes Wrong...</title>

-</PATCH>-

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34524; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Andrew McKay <andy@openirc.co.uk>
To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
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Subject: Re: docs/34524: [PATCH] - Add important pre-installation notice
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 00:32:32 +0000 (GMT)

 On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Michael Lucas wrote:
 
 > One minor nit: you combine an emphasis and CAPITALS.  I'd just use
 > <emphasis>.  Combining italics and capitals isn't very
 > professional-looking.  It's like the use of multiple exclamation
 > points.
 
 This should, therefore, be the best patch ever...being as it is the
 combined efforts of me, Gary and Michael.  And yeah, I had reservations
 about the combination of <emphasis> and CAPS but I went with it because
 you can never have too much stress...or something :)
 
 -<PATCH>- also at: http://www.openirc.co.uk/freebsd/install.diff
 
 --- chapter.sgml	Sat Feb  2 12:18:14 2002
 +++ chapter.sgml.new	Sat Feb  2 12:22:45 2002
 @@ -4553,6 +4553,18 @@
        questions and answers for people wishing to dual-boot FreeBSD with
        MS-DOS.</para>
 
 +    <note>
 +      <para>Some installation problems can be avoided or alleviated by
 +        updating the firmware on various hardware components, most notably the
 +        motherboard.  If the installation fails then updating the BIOS may
 +        solve the problem.  Refer to your motherboard manufacturer's website
 +        for information on BIOS revisions and upgrade instructions.</para>
 +      <para>Most manufacturers strongly advise against upgrading motherboard
 +        BIOSs unless you have a good reason for doing so.  The
 +        process <emphasis>can</emphasis> go wrong, causing the BIOS to be
 +        permanently destroyed.</para>
 +    </note>
 +
      <sect2>
        <title>What to Do If Something Goes Wrong...</title>
 
 -</PATCH>-
 
 -- 
 Andrew McKay <andy@openirc.co.uk>
 
 

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34524; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Hiten Pandya <hitmaster2k@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: docs/34524 (apologies)
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 16:43:50 -0800 (PST)

 hi all,
 
 OK, I apologise for the patches I submitted, which I
 beleive were not correct, as well had lots of nits,
 as well as syntax mistakes (<qanaentry>).
 
 Thanks for telling me off!, as this will help me think
 twice, to correct the my bugs before sending a dodgy
 PR.
 
 Thanks once again,
 Regards,
 
  - Hiten Pandya
  - <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
 
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Synopsis: net/isc-dhcp2 no longer exists

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Good catch!  Thank you :)
Committed already Ceri.

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34547; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>
To: Jay Edwards <jayed@jayed.com>
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Subject: Re: docs/34547: [patch] edits of FAQ Introduction
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 04:44:30 +0200 (EET)

 Hello Jay,
 
 >
 >  (Oops.  Forgot the patch).
 >
 
 The patch cannot be applied cleanly :(
 Something has messed up with the diff output and whitespaces.
 I suggest saving the diff output to a file, and using the send-pr -a
 option to attach your patches for other PRs.
 
 Now, I'll try to read the diff and see if I can manually make those
 changes that are Good Things(TM) :-)
 
 - Giorgos
 

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Synopsis: [patch] edits of FAQ Introduction

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The patch included does not apply cleanly.
I'm working with Jay Edwards (the submitter) to extract what
changes we want to make and then commit what we come up with.
Thank you Jay, for the work you'veput into the FAQ.

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