From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 6: 4:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD10737B41B; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 06:04:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwmalone@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HE42t48587; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 06:04:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwmalone) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 06:04:02 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203171404.g2HE42t48587@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dwmalone@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dwmalone Responsible-Changed-By: dwmalone Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Mar 17 06:03:27 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: I've committed a patch to -current and will merge it in a few weeks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31265 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 7: 1:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9A237B443 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 07:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HF04d69916; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 07:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E5737B41D for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 06:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (Moses.earth.sol [192.168.1.1]) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2HErqd06659 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:53:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@sumuk.de) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HErpQ55384; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:53:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vincent) Message-Id: <200203171453.g2HErpQ55384@sumuk.de> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:53:51 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Heinen Reply-To: Martin Heinen To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/36010: [PATCH] rename COMx: to COMx Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 36010 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] rename COMx: to COMx >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 17 07:00:03 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Heinen >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD Moses.earth.sol 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Sat Dec 22 07:35:30 CET 2001 toor@Moses.earth.sol:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOSES i386 >Description: Some parts of the documentation are using COM1: instead of COM1 to describe the first serial interface in MS-DOS. The device name should be COM1, ':' was used as separator by the mode command. Used 's/(COM[0-9]):/$1/g' to strip off the trailing colons. >How-To-Repeat: Read the chapters 'Installing FreeBSD', 'Serial Communications', the 'Pedantic PPP Primer', and an old DOS manual (if you still have one :) >Fix: Index: books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.142 diff -u -r1.142 chapter.sgml --- books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml 2 Mar 2002 06:50:36 -0000 1.142 +++ books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml 17 Mar 2002 14:18:52 -0000 @@ -181,7 +181,7 @@ N/A - 3Com 56K faxmodem, on COM1: + 3Com 56K faxmodem, on COM1 Index: books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.53 diff -u -r1.53 chapter.sgml --- books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter.sgml 28 Feb 2002 03:47:08 -0000 1.53 +++ books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter.sgml 17 Mar 2002 14:18:53 -0000 @@ -295,10 +295,10 @@ FreeBSD supports four serial ports by default. In the MS-DOS world, these are known as - COM1:, - COM2:, - COM3:, and - COM4:. FreeBSD currently supports + COM1, + COM2, + COM3, and + COM4. FreeBSD currently supports dumb multiport serial interface cards, such as the BocaBoard 1008 and 2016, as well as more intelligent multi-port cards such as those made by Digiboard @@ -404,10 +404,10 @@ A shell script called MAKEDEV in the /dev directory manages the device special files. To use MAKEDEV to make dial-up device - special files for COM1: (port 0), + special files for COM1 (port 0), cd to /dev and issue the command MAKEDEV ttyd0. Likewise, to make dial-up - device special files for COM2: (port 1), + device special files for COM2 (port 1), use MAKEDEV ttyd1. MAKEDEV not only creates the @@ -1311,7 +1311,7 @@ For example to set the termios flag crtscts on serial port #1's - (COM2:) dial-in and dial-out initialization + (COM2) dial-in and dial-out initialization devices, the following lines could be added to /etc/rc.serial: # Serial port initial configuration @@ -1968,30 +1968,30 @@ - Plug a dumb terminal into COM1: + Plug a dumb terminal into COM1 (sio0). If you do not have a dumb terminal, you can use an old PC/XT with a modem program, or the serial port on another Unix box. If - you do not have a COM1: + you do not have a COM1 (sio0), get one. At this time, there is - no way to select a port other than COM1: + no way to select a port other than COM1 for the boot blocks without recompiling the boot blocks. If you - are already using COM1: for another + are already using COM1 for another device, you will have to temporarily remove that device and install a new boot block and kernel once you get FreeBSD up and - running. (It is assumed that COM1: will + running. (It is assumed that COM1 will be available on a file/compute/terminal server anyway; if you - really need COM1: for something else + really need COM1 for something else (and you cannot switch that something else to - COM2: (sio1)), + COM2 (sio1)), then you probably should not even be bothering with all this in the first place.) Make sure the configuration file of your kernel has - appropriate flags set for COM1: + appropriate flags set for COM1 (sio0). Relevant flags are: @@ -2414,8 +2414,8 @@ BOOT_COMCONSOLE_PORT to the address of the port you want to use (0x3F8, 0x2F8, 0x3E8 or 0x2E8). Only sio0 through - sio3 (COM1: - through COM4:) can be used; multiport + sio3 (COM1 + through COM4) can be used; multiport serial cards will not work. No interrupt setting is needed. @@ -2424,7 +2424,7 @@ Create a custom kernel configuration file and add appropriate flags for the serial port you want to use. For example, if you want to make sio1 - (COM2:) the console: + (COM2) the console: device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty flags 0x10 irq 3 Index: books/ppp-primer/book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/ppp-primer/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.17 diff -u -r1.17 book.sgml --- books/ppp-primer/book.sgml 14 Feb 2002 23:21:41 -0000 1.17 +++ books/ppp-primer/book.sgml 17 Mar 2002 14:18:54 -0000 @@ -177,7 +177,7 @@ This guide assumes that the modem on the FreeBSD box is connected -to the first serial port ('/dev/cuaa0' or 'COM1:' in +to the first serial port ('/dev/cuaa0' or 'COM1' in DOS-terms). Finally, we will also assume that your Internet Service Provider (ISP) @@ -863,10 +863,10 @@ This statement informs the PPP program that it should use the first serial port. Under FreeBSD the '/dev/cuaa0' device is the same port that's -known as "COM1:" under DOS, Windows, Windows 95, etc.... +known as "COM1" under DOS, Windows, Windows 95, etc.... -If your modem is on COM2: you should specify -'/dev/cuaa1; COM3: would be '/dev/cuaa2'. +If your modem is on COM2 you should specify +'/dev/cuaa1; COM3 would be '/dev/cuaa2'. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 11:40: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C9C37B421 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HJe1I25584; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:40:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203171940.g2HJe1I25584@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/35943: at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/at/ Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35943; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35943: at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/at/ Date: 17 Mar 2002 11:34:49 -0800 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > There are other programs that use /var too. Cron(8) for instance, saves > the crontabs in /var/cron/tabs. Why is it so bad that at(1) saves files in > /var too? It's NOT bad that programs SAVE files in /var/; that's what it's there for. And /etc/ is there for read-only config files. But the cron(8) and at(8) programs are the only ones I know of that read from read-only configuration files in /var/. (I was saving cron(8) until I saw how at(1) went, but only for cron's "allow" and "deny", not its databases.) Of course, it is debatable whether it is better to keep a program's files together or scatter them about, or whether it's useful to distinguish between config files and database files the crontabs, but I think that in one of these rare cases where there is a clear rule or convention, it should be adhered to by all system programs when it's practical; in this case it's easy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 11:50: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D4037B41B for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HJo2L28247; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BCD37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:45:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (Moses.earth.sol [192.168.1.1]) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2HJjdd09151 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:45:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@sumuk.de) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HJjdD56083; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:45:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vincent) Message-Id: <200203171945.g2HJjdD56083@sumuk.de> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:45:39 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Heinen Reply-To: Martin Heinen To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/36018: [PATCH] FAQ contains bad link description Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 36018 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] FAQ contains bad link description >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 17 11:50:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Heinen >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD Moses.earth.sol 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Sat Dec 22 07:35:30 CET 2001 toor@Moses.earth.sol:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOSES i386 >Description: replaced "this article" with the title of the article the link is referring to >How-To-Repeat: read the question 1.12 >Fix: Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.416 diff -u -r1.416 book.sgml --- book.sgml 15 Mar 2002 07:57:11 -0000 1.416 +++ book.sgml 17 Mar 2002 19:00:52 -0000 @@ -539,8 +539,8 @@ electronic mail. Before submitting a problem report, please read this - article on how to write good problem + URL="../../articles/problem-reports/article.html">Writing + FreeBSD Problem Reports on how to write good problem reports. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 11:53:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2A137B417 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:53:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a016.otenet.gr [212.205.215.16]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2HJrDjo027339 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:53:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2HFctnI010457 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:38:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2HFct6q010456; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:38:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:38:55 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ceri Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Indexing the FAQ: does this suck ? Message-ID: <20020317153854.GA10393@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020316221213.GA1647@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020316221213.GA1647@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-03-16 22:12, Ceri wrote: > > > > + > + version > + latest FreeBSDD version ? Since every OS will have it's own version scheme, it won't hurt us to explicitly mention that this is about "FreeBSD" versions, right? Of course, this is less important that getting the work done, so if you feel like it, use the original. Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 12: 0:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7EE37B400 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HK0JM29214; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:00:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:00:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203172000.g2HK0JM29214@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/35940: red(1) manual doesn't explain red(1). Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35940; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35940: red(1) manual doesn't explain red(1). Date: 17 Mar 2002 11:52:45 -0800 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > How does this look? Mind you, the text was already there. > I just uncommented it and made minor markup changes. > +If invoked as > +.Nm red , > +then > +.Nm > +can only edit files in the current directory > +and cannot execute shell commands. It looks OK. If I were doing it, which I'm not, I'd ensure it was mentioned in the synopsis, and since the above IS a synopsis, I'd just put that there. I'd also be more accurate about what the "restrictions" are. For instance, from my unfinished look at the code, it looked like it would restrict one from editing "./xxx" which is in the current directory. Maybe you should commit your change and leave the PR open in case somebody later cares enough to improve it (or better, the program). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 12: 0:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838FD37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:00:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HK0EJ29205; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:00:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from hpdi.ath.cx (pc2-nthf5-0-cust237.not.cable.ntl.com [80.4.35.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0788F37B41B for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx) by hpdi.ath.cx (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HJm9m03562; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:48:09 GMT (envelope-from hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx) Message-Id: <200203171948.g2HJm9m03562@hpdi.ath.cx> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:48:09 GMT From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: Hiten Pandya To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: vkchan@kendryl.net, srick@europe.yahoo-inc.com X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/36019: [NEW ARTICLE] - Java and Jakarta Tomcat on FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 36019 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [NEW ARTICLE] - Java and Jakarta Tomcat on FreeBSD >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 17 12:00:11 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Hiten Pandya >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD hpdi.ath.cx 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Mar 16 19:06:14 GMT 2002 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx:/c1/obj/data/dev/src/sys/CURRENT5 i386 >Description: Finally, fhew.. I managed to finish converting this article. If anyone recalls, a message to the -doc list was sent by Victoria Chan, with the following Message-ID: 000801c19db4$0a27f730$7400a8c0@admin She kindly gave us the pointers to the little how-to which had information on how to install the JDK 1.3, and a quick snippet on Tomcat. This how-to is available at: http://www.kendryl.net/jdk13-1.html I found this article pretty interesting, so I thought I will convert it to DocBook SGML for the benefit of others, and also extended the installation for Jakarta Tomcat with a complete overview on it. This article will be useful for users on how to install the JDK and how to get Tomcat up and running. It has been converted to DocBook SGML with the permissions from the author herself. I have cc'ed a copy of this PR to the Author for future reference. Steffen Rick has kindly reviewed this article for me, and added a pointer for the Linux-ABI on the document, needed to build the Linux-JDK. If you would like to refer to a quick copy of this article for reviewing purposes, please visit: http://www.pittgoth.com/~hiten/java-tomcat Do not hesitate to pass any comments, compliments, questions or rants to me at: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org. Hope it makes it thruough. :) PS. I am attaching a "uuencoded" copy of the article with this PR. The file contained within is called: java-tomcat.tgz. 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Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/35942: at(1) manual doesn't describe at.allow and at.deny formats. Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35942; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35942: at(1) manual doesn't describe at.allow and at.deny formats. Date: 17 Mar 2002 12:54:09 -0800 Giorgos Keramidas writes: Much of what you added is already explained in the manual in a less ambiguous manner. I fear that your addition (especially for "deny") will confuse some readers. Please excuse my bluntness. Better to limit your addition to the format of the file, which in your patch is "one per line". And since users often make guesses about what might be allowed, namely leading or trailing whitespace and comments, it should "head off" failed experiments by being explicit on those topics. I haven't looked at the code and so won't propose wording, but for the crontab(1)'s manual, my patch contained In these two files, a user is considered to be listed only if the user name has no blank or other characters before it on its line and a newline character immediately after the name, even at the end of the file. Other lines are ignored and may be used for comments. This was discussed back in October along with discussion of changing the program's end-of-file behavior, but I don't see any changes in the 4.5 crontab manual and I do see that users see it dated "1993"; both bad "PR", in one sense or another. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 13:50: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9028E37B404 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HLo2d52439; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203172150.g2HLo2d52439@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/35943: at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/at/ Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35943; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35943: at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/at/ Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 23:46:30 +0200 On 2002-03-17 11:34, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > Of course, it is debatable whether it is better to keep a program's > files together or scatter them about, or whether it's useful to > distinguish between config files and database files the crontabs, but I > think that in one of these rare cases where there is a clear rule or > convention, it should be adhered to by all system programs when it's > practical; in this case it's easy. Sure. As an idea it's nice. Any chance you can come up with a "proof of concept" patch? That will make things easier to test, since this is not a very bad idea. Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 14:19:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDACE37B400 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:19:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g2HLunT51615; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:56:49 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:56:49 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: Documentation Team Subject: Re: www/en/conspectus is dead? Message-ID: <20020317215648.F5971@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <7m4rjjfl08.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Mjqg7Yu+0hL22rav" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <7m4rjjfl08.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:26:31PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Mjqg7Yu+0hL22rav Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:26:31PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > It seems www/en/conspectus is not updated since 2000. >=20 > Conspectus is good idea, but it requires huge human resources > (editorial work). These pages will be worth when frequently up to > date and caught up to mailing lists timely fashion. >=20 > I'd like to kill www/en/conspectus pages until more active editors > will appear. >=20 > Comments? My real concern is that with no pages left to 'advertise' it, we'll get no volunteers stepping forward. Of course, there haven't been a huge quantity of volunteers so far. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --Mjqg7Yu+0hL22rav Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyVESAACgkQk6gHZCw343VahACfd6Aq74U40DnbQKg6PXU1+iFJ mcQAoI6eVQ67VDO7EfcIhsrVzwCCxcC7 =Ugi7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Mjqg7Yu+0hL22rav-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 14:48:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from atreides.freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [212.33.142.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6ABB37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shamz@localhost) by atreides.freenix.no (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HMmYP07439 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 23:48:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from shamz) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 23:48:34 +0100 From: Shaun Jurrens To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: building en_US.ISO8859-1 docs seems to fail Message-ID: <20020317234834.D57818@atreides.freenix.no> Mail-Followup-To: Shaun Jurrens , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE X-Philosophy: If you can read this, you're too close. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, For some strange reason I decided to once again attempt to rebuild my local docs after having given up hope a few years back. I still get a lot of errors and jade seems to dump core often. Using both openjade and jade I get a lot of these: usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/html/../common/dbcommon.dsl:772:8:E: reference to undefined variable "hasprf" Since I don't know squat about what that dsl file is supposed to do or what syntax is relevant, I can't really decipher the error. Is this a local problem or a docproj problem? Either way, any ideas on a fix? I'd like to try to get into the project (docproj, in general, the fbsd docs with time), but I seem to hit a lot of small technical/mechanical problems at the start each time. Am I missing something? btw, there seem to be a load of endtags missing in the handbook... -- Yours truly, Shaun D. Jurrens shaun@shamz.net shamz@freenix.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 14:54:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.cc (gw.nectar.cc [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802CA37B405; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by gw.nectar.cc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 06073D; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 16:54:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 16:54:16 -0600 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: Hiroki Sato Cc: murray@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Security advisories and XML Message-ID: <20020317225416.GA36506@hellblazer.nectar.cc> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Hiroki Sato , murray@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020106215255.E67906@hellblazer.nectar.cc> <20020316131007.GX17499@freebsdmall.com> <20020317.043511.115904137.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020317.043511.115904137.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Url: http://www.nectar.cc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 04:35:11AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Hmm.. I am using the attatched XML DTD and XSLT stylesheet > for Japanese translation of SAs. This is based on DocBook XML > and uses docbook-xsl. > > If this is suitable for the purpose, could someone review this? > I am not familiar with XML+XSLT processing very much. This looks good, but it misses the mark a bit in that it is very document-oriented. Something that is more structure-oriented (but still document friendly!) is needed. e.g., component names and versions must be clearly identified (for searching and subscription processing), advisory revisions must be dealt with, and the revisions must be logically grouped by branch and issue, so that they may be used to generate a patchfile (this is possibly the hardest part, and perhaps too much for a first cut). Cheers, -- Jacques A. Vidrine http://www.nectar.cc/ NTT/Verio SME . FreeBSD UNIX . Heimdal Kerberos jvidrine@verio.net . nectar@FreeBSD.org . nectar@kth.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 15:20: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.cc (gw.nectar.cc [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534F037B405; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:19:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by gw.nectar.cc (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BA6CCD; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:19:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:19:53 -0600 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, security-officer@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common new.sgml Message-ID: <20020317231953.GD36506@hellblazer.nectar.cc> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , "Bruce A. Mah" , Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, security-officer@FreeBSD.org References: <200203090112.g291C4A36851@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020310191230.E89278@nathan.ruhr.de> <200203131650.g2DGoWr36860@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203131650.g2DGoWr36860@bmah.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Url: http://www.nectar.cc/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 08:50:32AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 05:12:04PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > > 1.297 +4 -2 src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new. > > sgml > > > > I think there is a small typo/omission in the entry: > > > > ] This bug could have allowed an authenticated remote user to cause > > ] &man.sshd.8; to execute arbitrary code with superuser privileges, > > > > This part is correct and clear: A 'bad' client can abuse the server > > > > ] or allowed a connecting SSH client to execute arbitrary > > ] code with the privileges of the client user. > > > > but I think this part should be clearer. According to the advisories > > I have read, a 'bad' server can abuse the client. My suggestion > > is to replace this part with "or allowed a malicous SSH server to > > execute arbitrary code on the client system with the privileges of > > the client user". > > Sorry for the delay. You're probably right here...any comments from the > security officer team? I think Udo's suggestion would indeed be clearer. On the other hand, summarizing security advisories can be tricky business. You might want to consider in the future just saying, ``Foo was b0rken. See FreeBSD-SA-02:NN.foo'' or some such to save yourself the trouble. Cheers, -- Jacques A. Vidrine http://www.nectar.cc/ NTT/Verio SME . FreeBSD UNIX . Heimdal Kerberos jvidrine@verio.net . nectar@FreeBSD.org . nectar@kth.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 15:50: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FDA37B400 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2HNo2673749; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203172350.g2HNo2673749@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/35940: red(1) manual doesn't explain red(1). Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35940; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35940: red(1) manual doesn't explain red(1). Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 01:44:47 +0200 On 2002-03-17 12:00, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > I'd also be more accurate about what the "restrictions" are. For > instance, from my unfinished look at the code, it looked like it would > restrict one from editing "./xxx" which is in the current directory. > Maybe you should commit your change and leave the PR open in case > somebody later cares enough to improve it (or better, the program). Indeed. I'll try to come up with a more verbose description of the restrictions, trying not to duplicate the code "in words". hades:~$ red f ./foo ? h shell access restricted Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 17:52:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7C937B400; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2I1qe899524; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:52:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:52:40 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203180152.g2I1qe899524@freefall.freebsd.org> To: shill@free.fr, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35987: socket(2) man page minor correction Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: socket(2) man page minor correction State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sun Mar 17 17:52:30 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35987 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 17:57:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9015B37B41A; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2I1up400372; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:56:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:56:51 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203180156.g2I1up400372@freefall.freebsd.org> To: martin@sumuk.de, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/36018: [PATCH] FAQ contains bad link description Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] FAQ contains bad link description State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sun Mar 17 17:56:38 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Applied with some other surrounding changes, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36018 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 18:40: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852FF37B41A for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2I2e2914778; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 18:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203180240.g2I2e2914778@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/35943: at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/at/ Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35943; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35943: at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/at/ Date: 17 Mar 2002 18:33:11 -0800 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > Any chance you can come up with a "proof of > concept" patch? Please assume that I will not develop any patches for any PR for the indefinite future. It's not because of any mistreatment of my patches or anything like that; I've just found patch development to be REAL WORK, and few, if any, of my PRs will have higher priority than other real work that I should be doing (some of which should eventually benefit FreeBSD too). This patch would be a one-liner (in Makefile.inc) to just change the location, but I assume that the change needs to be backward compatible. P.S. Looks like you've got a typo ("dd") in your return address. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 19:10: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB90F37B402 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2I3A2m22269; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203180310.g2I3A2m22269@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/35943: at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/at/ Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35943; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35943: at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/at/ Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 05:01:09 +0200 On 2002-03-17 18:33, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > > This patch would be a one-liner (in Makefile.inc) to just change the > location, but I assume that the change needs to be backward compatible. If the change is indeed deemed appropriate, changes to mtree/BSD.root.dist probably need to be made too, to make sure that /etc/at is created by mergemaster, with the proper files in it. Perhaps a couple of sample at.allow and at.deny files, should be put there too? Some way of notifying administrators that their old /vat/at/at.* files are no longer used, and they should copy them to /etc/at? I don't know, I'm just looking for a more complete "drop this in your source tree and rebuild, to see everything working" thing. Ideas, are nice too. It doesn't always have to be "diff -u" output (although that helps a lot most of the time). > P.S. Looks like you've got a typo ("dd") in your return address. Yep, thanks. I typoed, and found out only after the followup reached my INBOX. Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 20:24: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from unsrat.ac.id (www.unsrat.ac.id [202.152.26.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F27A37B400 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from WorldClient [202.152.26.164] by unsrat.ac.id [202.152.26.164] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.2.R) for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:27:48 +0800 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:27:48 +0800 From: "A. Haris J. O." To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.3 X-MDRemoteIP: 202.152.26.164 X-Return-Path: aharisjo@unsrat.ac.id X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20020318042404.1F27A37B400@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to join the maililing list To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 20:31: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D8837B404; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (c5.depaul-inst.pittsburgh.pa.us [192.168.1.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2I4XGq25919; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 23:33:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 23:38:40 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35903: physio(9) does not have an AUTHOR section Message-Id: <20020317233840.02d21fc7.darklogik@pittgoth.com> In-Reply-To: <200203160750.g2G7o3317563@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200203160750.g2G7o3317563@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.5) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=.a+N8hs,g)MQUyN" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=.a+N8hs,g)MQUyN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 23:50:03 -0800 (PST) Murray Stokely wrote: Then we can close this pr ;) I understand where you are comming from Murray... -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal --=.a+N8hs,g)MQUyN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE8lW9WwPmgiRuevUMRAht8AJoC4W8aduCpwe0V7p1ACs78reYarwCeK7va P5oJ2vtdp5eI7jqKeJkhVCM= =wmNe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.a+N8hs,g)MQUyN-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 20:41: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F8637B404; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:41:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2I4f6P38986; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:41:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:41:06 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203180441.g2I4f6P38986@freefall.freebsd.org> To: darklogik@pittgoth.com, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35903: physio(9) does not have an AUTHOR section Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: physio(9) does not have an AUTHOR section State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Sun Mar 17 20:40:47 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Big thanks to Hiten and everyone else who is contributing lately, but his name doesn't belong in the AUTHORS section. In general, the AUTHORS section should list the people who wrote the software being described, or who wrote the majority (>50%) of the text of the man page. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35903 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 21: 0:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8DE37B405 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2I504m42264; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7783137B400 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 20:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F3CAAA804; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:54:16 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <20020318045416.F3CAAA804@starbug.ugh.net.au> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:54:16 +1100 (EST) From: Andrew Reply-To: Andrew To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/36037: pw(8) mentions -L twice Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 36037 >Category: docs >Synopsis: pw(8) mentions -L twice >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 17 21:00:04 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrew >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: UgH! >Environment: System: FreeBSD starbug.ugh.net.au 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #4: Wed Jan 30 17:17:14 EST 2002 andrew@starbug.ugh.net.au:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/STARBUG i386 >Description: The pw(8) manpage talks about the -L option twice. One entry looks like it has been there for a long time - before login classes actually worked. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- /usr/src/usr.sbin/pw/pw.8 Fri Aug 24 19:46:00 2001 +++ pw.8 Mon Mar 18 15:47:23 2002 @@ -457,16 +457,6 @@ and allows for such entries as .Pa /nonexistent that should be set for accounts not intended for interactive login. -.It Fl L Ar class -Set the -.Em class -field in the user's passwd record. -This field is not currently used, but will be used in the future to specify a -.Em termcap -entry like tag. -See -.Xr passwd 5 -for details. .It Fl h Ar fd This option provides a special interface by which interactive scripts can set an account password using >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 21:26:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F04637B400; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2I5QVs49578; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:26:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:26:31 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203180526.g2I5QVs49578@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@ugh.net.au, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/36037: pw(8) mentions -L twice Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: pw(8) mentions -L twice State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Sun Mar 17 21:23:15 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: I've updated the manpage in revision 1.19.2.8 in RELENG_4 as a result of another PR (docs/34782). If you grab the updated sources, you should see that now there is only one place where -L is described. Thank you, for reporting this though :) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 21:27: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A7637B402; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2I5R2649720; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:27:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:27:02 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203180527.g2I5R2649720@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/36037: pw(8) mentions -L twice Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: pw(8) mentions -L twice Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Mar 17 21:26:37 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Done already. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 21:39: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B45737B400 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:39:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id F176A4B65D; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:39:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:39:01 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Shaun Jurrens Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: building en_US.ISO8859-1 docs seems to fail Message-ID: <20020318053901.GH19657@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020317234834.D57818@atreides.freenix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CGDBiGfvSTbxKZlW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020317234834.D57818@atreides.freenix.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --CGDBiGfvSTbxKZlW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What version of the DocBook stylesheets are you using? I seem to remember seeing this error on another platform with a recent stylesheet release. I'm running 1.73 here without any troubles. Are these packages installed from ports? I have never had jade or openjade dump core. I might suggest installing a clean version of textproc/docproj (and all its dependencies) if you are indeed using older versions of the tools. - Murray On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 11:48:34PM +0100, Shaun Jurrens wrote: > For some strange reason I decided to once again attempt to rebuild my loc= al > docs after having given up hope a few years back. I still get a lot of > errors and jade seems to dump core often. Using both openjade and jade I > get a lot of these:=20 >=20 > usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/html/../co= mmon/dbcommon.dsl:772:8:E: > reference to undefined variable "hasprf" >=20 > Since I don't know squat about what that dsl file is supposed to do or wh= at > syntax is relevant, I can't really decipher the error. Is this a local > problem or a docproj problem? Either way, any ideas on a fix? >=20 > I'd like to try to get into the project (docproj, in general, the fbsd do= cs > with time), but I seem to hit a lot of small technical/mechanical problems > at the start each time. Am I missing something? >=20 > btw, there seem to be a load of endtags missing in the handbook... >=20 > --=20 > Yours truly, >=20 > Shaun D. Jurrens > shaun@shamz.net > shamz@freenix.no >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message --CGDBiGfvSTbxKZlW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8lX11tNcQog5FH30RAlbFAKCEPKQxxi4iNYNNdxZbVB8yG/xZiwCfbe4Y ftyHKlW7afqLJFKRGqwdSzs= =7LQG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CGDBiGfvSTbxKZlW-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 17 23:38: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from atreides.freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [212.33.142.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC34037B402 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 23:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shamz@localhost) by atreides.freenix.no (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2I7bw309910 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:37:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from shamz) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:37:58 +0100 From: Shaun Jurrens To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: building en_US.ISO8859-1 docs seems to fail Message-ID: <20020318083758.E57818@atreides.freenix.no> Mail-Followup-To: Shaun Jurrens , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20020317234834.D57818@atreides.freenix.no> <20020318053901.GH19657@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020318053901.GH19657@freebsdmall.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 09:39:01PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE X-Philosophy: If you can read this, you're too close. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 09:39:01PM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: #> What version of the DocBook stylesheets are you using? I seem to #> remember seeing this error on another platform with a recent #> stylesheet release. I'm running 1.73 here without any troubles. hmm, dakota:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook# ident /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/common/dbcommon.dsl /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/common/dbcommon.dsl: $Id: dbcommon.dsl,v 1.65 1999/12/16 13:16:16 nwalsh Exp $ #> #> Are these packages installed from ports? I have never had jade or #> openjade dump core. I've never had anything but sigbus's from jade, at least that was my experience a couple of years ago, so I used openjade instead (symlinked in /usr/local/bin). This is, mind you, with known good hardware, although the jade port allows -O2 optimizations, where the openjade port doesn't, so perhaps it's gcc. #> #> I might suggest installing a clean version of textproc/docproj (and #> all its dependencies) if you are indeed using older versions of the tools. Actually, I did that right before I started my little endeavor here. I also updated the jade binary after I began to have problems with my older openjade symlinked system. I de-installed the old docproj port build right before I installed the new version (after seeing if the new one built), but I seem to have dependency ports that are of older versions, i.e. my dsssl port is still dsssl-docbook-modular-1.52 even after a new docproj port install. The newer dsssl-docbook-modular port seems to have different dependencies than the docproj port as well, i.e. docbook-300 vs. docbook-410. Knowing as little as I do about this area, I couldn't say if this is causing any problems. I'll update the dsssl port and see what happens. Thanks for your time RE. ;-) #> #> - Murray #> #> On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 11:48:34PM +0100, Shaun Jurrens wrote: #> > For some strange reason I decided to once again attempt to rebuild my local #> > docs after having given up hope a few years back. I still get a lot of #> > errors and jade seems to dump core often. Using both openjade and jade I #> > get a lot of these: #> > #> > usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/html/../common/dbcommon.dsl:772:8:E: #> > reference to undefined variable "hasprf" #> > #> > Since I don't know squat about what that dsl file is supposed to do or what #> > syntax is relevant, I can't really decipher the error. Is this a local #> > problem or a docproj problem? Either way, any ideas on a fix? #> > -- Yours truly, Shaun D. Jurrens shaun@shamz.net shamz@freenix.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 18 0:22:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from atreides.freenix.no (atreides.freenix.no [212.33.142.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A89837B404 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 00:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shamz@localhost) by atreides.freenix.no (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2I8MWw10179 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:22:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from shamz) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:22:32 +0100 From: Shaun Jurrens To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: building en_US.ISO8859-1 docs seems to fail Message-ID: <20020318092232.F57818@atreides.freenix.no> Mail-Followup-To: Shaun Jurrens , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20020317234834.D57818@atreides.freenix.no> <20020318053901.GH19657@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020318053901.GH19657@freebsdmall.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 09:39:01PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE X-Philosophy: If you can read this, you're too close. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 09:39:01PM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: #> What version of the DocBook stylesheets are you using? I seem to #> remember seeing this error on another platform with a recent #> stylesheet release. I'm running 1.73 here without any troubles. #> #> Are these packages installed from ports? I have never had jade or #> openjade dump core. The newer dsssl files helped, but the coredumps stopped on jade only after compiling it with just -O, perhaps a fix in the port like in the openjade port is in order, i.e. overriding normal make.conf optimizations back to -O (-pipe). C++ optimizations didn't seem to affect performance in this way, i.e.: CXXFLAGS+= -fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized (from /etc/make.conf) All in all, it seems to work now as intended. Thanks for the help. #> #> I might suggest installing a clean version of textproc/docproj (and #> all its dependencies) if you are indeed using older versions of the tools. #> #> - Murray #> -- Yours truly, Shaun D. 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Cliccare http://www.captivmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remove : http://www.captivmail.com/remove.php3?ml= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 18 1:20:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A239C37B417 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 01:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2I9K1C06619; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 01:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1090237B419 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 01:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 36861 invoked by uid 100); 18 Mar 2002 09:12:19 -0000 Message-Id: <20020318091219.36860.qmail@mired.org> Date: 18 Mar 2002 09:12:19 -0000 From: Mike Meyer Reply-To: Mike Meyer To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/36042: [PATCH] There's not a good description of shared builds in the handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 36042 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] There's not a good description of shared builds in the handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 18 01:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: Meyer Consulting >Environment: System: FreeBSD guru.mired.org 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #1: Sun Mar 17 05:18:14 CST 2002 mwm@guru.mired.org:/sharetmp/obj/usr/src/sys/GURU i386 >Description: The handbook describes updating the system on a single machine, but doesn't deal with the very common case of someone wanting multiple machines to track the same branch. >How-To-Repeat: Read through the handbook. >Fix: The attached English patch to the books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml adds a section at the end that describes how to set things up so one machine keeps sources and does the builds, and others install those, including dealing with the ports tree. --- chapter.sgml.orig Mon Mar 18 02:27:48 2002 +++ chapter.sgml Mon Mar 18 03:11:25 2002 @@ -32,6 +32,10 @@ Nik Clayton + + Mike + Meyer + @@ -1625,6 +1629,98 @@ + + + Tracking for multiple machines + + If you have a small lan—or a large one—and have + multiple machines that you want to track the same source tree, + then having all of them download sources and rebuild + everything seems like a waste of resources—disk space, + network bandwidth, and CPU cycles. It is, and the solution is + to have one machine do most of the work, and the rest of the + machines mount that work via NFS. This section outlines a + method of doing that that works. + + + Preliminaries + + First, identify a set of machines that is going to run + the same set of binaries, which we will call a + build set. Each machine can have a + custom kernel, but they will be running the same userland + binaries. From that set, choose a machine to be the + build machine. It's going to be the + machine that the world and kernel are built on. Ideally, it + should be a fast machine that has sufficient spare CPU to + run make world. You will also want to + choose a machine to be the test + machine, which will test software updates before they + are put into production. This must be a + machine that you can afford to have down for an extended + period of time. It can be the build machihne, but need not be. + + All the machines in this build set need to mount + /usr/obj and + /usr/src from the same machine, and at + the same point. Ideally, those are on two different drives + on the build machine, but they can be NFS mounted on that machine + as well. If you have multiple build sets, /usr/src should be + on one build machine, and NFS mounted on the rest. + + Finally make sure that the + /etc/make.conf on all the machines in + the build set agree with the build machine. That means that + the build machine must build all the parts of the base + system that any machine in the build set is going to + install. Also, each build machine should have it's kernel + name as KERNCONF in + /etc/make.conf, and the build machine + should list them all in , listing + it's own kernel first. + + + + The base system + + Now that all that is done, you're read to build + everything. Build the kernel and world as described above on the build machine, + but don't install anything. After the build has finished, go + to the test machine, and install the kernel you just + build. If this machine mounts /usr/src + and /usr/obj via NFS, when you reboot + to single user you will need to enable the network and mount + them. The easiest way to do that is to boot to multi-user, + then do shutdown now to go to single user + mode. Once there, you can install the world and run + mergemaster just as you normally do. Once + done, use the command to reboot to normal + multi-user operations for this machine. + + After you are certain that everything on the test + machine is working properly, use the same procedure to + install the new software on each of the other machines in + the build set. + + + + Ports + + The same ideas can be used for the ports tree. The first + critical step is mounting /usr/ports from the same machine to + all the machines in the build set. You can then set up + /etc/make.conf properly to share + distfiles. You should set DISTDIR to a + common shared directory that is writable by whichever user + root is going to be mapped to by your NFS mounts. Each + machine should set WRKDIRPREFIX to a + local build directory. Finally, if you're going to be + building and distributing packages, you should set + PACKAGES to a directory similar to + DISTDIR. + +

just wanted to let you know that = there's a typo on=20 one of the handbook pages.

on page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ntp.html=

---snip---
17.10.3.3 Controlling Access to Your Server
By default, your NTP = server=20 will be accessible to all hosts on the Internet. The restrict option in=20 ntp.conf(5) allows you to control which machines can access your = server.
If=20 you want to deny all machines from accessing your NTP server, add the=20 line
    restrict default ignore

to = /etc/ntp.conf. If=20 you only want to allow machines within your own network to synchronize = their=20 clocks with your server, but ensure they are not allowed to configure = the server=20 or used as peers to synchronize against, add
    = restrict=20 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 notrust nomodify notrap

instead, = where=20 192.168.1.0 in an IP address on your = network and=20 255.255.255.0 is your network's netmask.
---snip---
 
should say: is an IP address on your = network and=20 255.255.255.0 is your network's netmask.
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0EA4_01C1CFFF.BE917B60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 8:21:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 221EC37B400 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8446 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Mar 2002 16:22:01 -0000 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:22:01 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Lukasz Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: typo.. Message-ID: <20020320182201.A8428@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Lukasz , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <0ea301c1d029$a7678360$4001a8c0@nerdulatron> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <0ea301c1d029$a7678360$4001a8c0@nerdulatron>; from lukaszr@takeoverinc.com on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 11:09:46AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 11:09:46AM -0500, Lukasz wrote: > just wanted to let you know that there's a typo on one of the handbook > pages. >=20 > on page: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ntp.html [snip] > instead, where 192.168.1.0 in an IP address on your network and > 255.255.255.0 is your network's netmask. > ---snip--- > =20 > should say: is an IP address on your network and 255.255.255.0 is your > network's netmask. Fixed, thank you for bringing this to our attention! G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 I am jealous of the first word in this sentence. --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyYtykACgkQ7Ri2jRYZRVPuhwCgwzwUt0z4K+Wc7sWruhkXfyzE P/EAn0qhRd4M7AdF3O49n9xYz73Z+FDa =+qDc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 8:52:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB4837B416 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2KGsUq33291; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:54:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C98C11E.30902@pittgoth.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:04:30 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer Cc: swear@blarg.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/36042: [PATCH] There's not a good description of shared builds in the handbook References: <200203192120.g2JLK3o17280@freefall.freebsd.org> <15512.3992.905972.279159@guru.mired.org> <20020320000727.284a00c1.darklogik@pittgoth.com> <15512.44867.930654.886921@guru.mired.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Meyer wrote: > In <20020320000727.284a00c1.darklogik@pittgoth.com>, Tom Rhodes typed: > > > Speaking of following standards, rfc 2822 says that lines in email > messages "SHOULD" be at most 78 characters long. Yours were ~160. I > for one would appreciate that standard being followed. I'm not going to get myself into this arguement, if you want to argue using rfc standards, then please notice how the rfc's have two spaces after each sentance as observed on faq.org/rfcs ;) > > Here's the story as I recall it. I've probably got some of it wrong. > > In the beginning, all fonts had variable width characters, and > typesetters used an n-space after words, and an m-space after > sentences. When fonts with fixed-width characters were introduced - > via typewriters - *some* of the users decided that the m-space after a > sentence deserved two spaces. Others kept right on using a single > m-space after sentences, even though they were the same width as the > n-spaces after words. > > As you can see, this distinction only matters if you're setting > something in fixed width fonts, and even then there isn't universal > agreement about it. Bringhurst, in "The Elements of typographic > style", calls the double-space practice an "abomination", or words to > that effect. As far as I'm concerned, when it comes to typography, > that's the bible - which I suppose makes Bringhurst God. > > Now, if this is something we do to make life easier for programs, that > I can understand. In which case, I'd very much like to have -- be > turned into m-dashes and - into n-dashes, so we can do away with > —. I'm even willing to do the work, if someone can point out > what code is interpreting '. ' to mean something different than '. '. It is also a tad bit easier for translaters... If you really want to propose a large arguement, then just look at it like this, in the doc project we use two spaces as a set standard for the documents we produce. We have followed this for awhile now, if we let everyone submit under any standard, we would have some ugly looking documentation. > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > Take care, -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 8:59:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF48F37B404 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a144.otenet.gr [212.205.215.144]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2KGxZxY029681; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:59:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2KGxXov004883; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:59:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2KGxXkg004873; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:59:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:59:22 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Peter de Koning Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD handbook causes Linux-netscape to crash Message-ID: <20020320165922.GB3971@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020319234932.62ad2283.p.d.de.koning@freeler.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020319234932.62ad2283.p.d.de.koning@freeler.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-03-19 23:49, Peter de Koning wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam > > I want to tell you that the html version of your FreeBSD handbook (from > book.html.tar.gz) could cause Linux using netscape to crash. On my > system, a P 200 MMX with 32 meg RAM and 43 meg RAMdisk, opening your html > handbook filled the entire RAM and RAMdisk, wich caused my system to > crash. Since Netscape is a memory greedy program, you would probably find it nicer to download the split HTML version of the docs. It's much lighter than the 'single html' version. The Handbook is a large document. Printer on paper it took more than 700 pages last time I checked. Loading this in Netscape running on a machine with little RAM and not enough swap space is going to exchaust all physical and swap memory pretty soon. There is nothing wrong with the Handbook :P Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 9:40:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26A5B37B419 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:40:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7519 invoked by uid 100); 20 Mar 2002 17:40:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15512.51581.789216.308497@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:40:13 -0600 To: darklogik@pittgoth.com Cc: swear@blarg.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/36042: [PATCH] There's not a good description of shared builds in the handbook In-Reply-To: <3C98C11E.30902@pittgoth.com> References: <200203192120.g2JLK3o17280@freefall.freebsd.org> <15512.3992.905972.279159@guru.mired.org> <20020320000727.284a00c1.darklogik@pittgoth.com> <15512.44867.930654.886921@guru.mired.org> <3C98C11E.30902@pittgoth.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: Mike Meyer X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.49 (Python 2.2 on freebsd4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In <3C98C11E.30902@pittgoth.com>, Tom Rhodes typed: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > In <20020320000727.284a00c1.darklogik@pittgoth.com>, Tom Rhodes typed: > I'm not going to get myself into this arguement, if you want to argue > using rfc standards, then please notice how the rfc's have two spaces > after each sentance as observed on faq.org/rfcs ;) Uh huh. > It is also a tad bit easier for translaters... If you really want to > propose a large arguement, then just look at it like this, in the doc > project we use two spaces as a set standard for the documents we > produce. We have followed this for awhile now, if we let everyone > submit under any standard, we would have some ugly looking documentation. The doc project accepts text that isn't even marked up. If the doc project committers can mark up text, I think they can "fix" text that doesn't adhere to what the author thinks is an antiquated standard. If they can't, they can close the PR, and leave this activity undocumented until someone comes along who'll leap through all the doc project hurdles to write it up. If it is closed without being used, I will then consider whether or not I want to publish this on my own site. I loathe that kind of thing, because that doesn't get the document reviewed or maintained by the doc project, to the detriment of both the document and the FreeBSD project. I probably won't, but will simply refer people to the PR until it is obsolete. But I certainly won't be writing any more FAQ or handbook entries. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 9:50:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536D037B400 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16nkDm-0006xG-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:49:58 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16nkD8-000NGi-00; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:49:18 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:49:18 +0000 From: Ceri To: Mike Meyer Cc: darklogik@pittgoth.com, swear@blarg.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/36042: [PATCH] There's not a good description of shared builds in the handbook Message-ID: <20020320174918.GA56462@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Mike Meyer , darklogik@pittgoth.com, swear@blarg.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200203192120.g2JLK3o17280@freefall.freebsd.org> <15512.3992.905972.279159@guru.mired.org> <20020320000727.284a00c1.darklogik@pittgoth.com> <15512.44867.930654.886921@guru.mired.org> <3C98C11E.30902@pittgoth.com> <15512.51581.789216.308497@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15512.51581.789216.308497@guru.mired.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 11:40:13AM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: >=20 > The doc project accepts text that isn't even marked up. If the doc > project committers can mark up text, I think they can "fix" text that > doesn't adhere to what the author thinks is an antiquated standard. Agreed. I've often seen "committed with minor changes" in PRs. > But I certainly won't be writing any more FAQ or > handbook entries. I'm not having that. If nobody has any objections, then I'll take responsibility for this PR (as I've a problem with turning people off from writing docs, and I've recently completed a similar setup myself) and I'll fix the markup, run it past Mike and Murray and commit it. We have far worse whitespace heinousness in the docs than whether a sentence ends with one space or two (my preference is "deliberately left blank"). I hope that's good for everyone. Ceri --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8mMueocfcwTS3JF8RAhiaAJ9EfKN8OjF/nr1CgMjT7gawbo2eawCaA5xG 25a7Kc4DdbOB+fpRSVa6WlU= =EOR6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 10: 7: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8F837B404; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2KI71E41370; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:07:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:07:01 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203201807.g2KI71E41370@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/36042: [PATCH] There's not a good description of shared builds in the handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] There's not a good description of shared builds in the handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Wed Mar 20 10:04:43 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: I'm going to take this and clean it up to make people on -doc happy, then run it past Mike for his approval. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Mar 20 10:04:43 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: The patch has much merit, just needs a little tweaking, which I'll take care of. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36042 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 10: 7:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC5D37B404 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:07:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2KI9Tq33407; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:09:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C98D2B1.6040600@pittgoth.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:19:29 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer Cc: swear@blarg.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/36042: [PATCH] There's not a good description of shared builds in the handbook References: <200203192120.g2JLK3o17280@freefall.freebsd.org> <15512.3992.905972.279159@guru.mired.org> <20020320000727.284a00c1.darklogik@pittgoth.com> <15512.44867.930654.886921@guru.mired.org> <3C98C11E.30902@pittgoth.com> <15512.51581.789216.308497@guru.mired.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Meyer wrote: > In <3C98C11E.30902@pittgoth.com>, Tom Rhodes typed: > >>Mike Meyer wrote: >> >>>In <20020320000727.284a00c1.darklogik@pittgoth.com>, Tom Rhodes typed: >>> > > The doc project accepts text that isn't even marked up. If the doc > project committers can mark up text, I think they can "fix" text that > doesn't adhere to what the author thinks is an antiquated standard. > If they can't, they can close the PR, and leave this activity > undocumented until someone comes along who'll leap through all the doc > project hurdles to write it up. The doc project many times accepts documents which need marked up, reformatted, has alot of whitespace (I myself have a document that needs marked up for someone, its just the time constrant and figuring out where to put it). But this isn't the current topic, the topic at hand is more of a space after periods thing... > > If it is closed without being used, I will then consider whether or > not I want to publish this on my own site. I loathe that kind of > thing, because that doesn't get the document reviewed or maintained by > the doc project, to the detriment of both the document and the FreeBSD > project. I probably won't, but will simply refer people to the PR > until it is obsolete. But I certainly won't be writing any more FAQ or > handbook entries. > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > I am in no way saying you cannot submit documentation, Gary just asked nicely if you could use two spaces instead of one to make things easier, and you have taken minor offence, if you feel that only one space is needed, then we can add the extra space later. -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 10:21:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3122437B41E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b179.otenet.gr [212.205.244.187]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2KIL9xY017806; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:21:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2KIL8Kg000609; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:21:08 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2KIL8Kk000608; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:21:08 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:21:08 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Mike Meyer Cc: darklogik@pittgoth.com, swear@blarg.net, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/36042: [PATCH] There's not a good description of shared builds in the handbook Message-ID: <20020320182108.GB414@hades.hell.gr> References: <200203192120.g2JLK3o17280@freefall.freebsd.org> <15512.3992.905972.279159@guru.mired.org> <20020320000727.284a00c1.darklogik@pittgoth.com> <15512.44867.930654.886921@guru.mired.org> <3C98C11E.30902@pittgoth.com> <15512.51581.789216.308497@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15512.51581.789216.308497@guru.mired.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-03-20 11:40, Mike Meyer wrote: > In <3C98C11E.30902@pittgoth.com>, Tom Rhodes typed: > > It is also a tad bit easier for translaters... If you really want to > > propose a large arguement, then just look at it like this, in the doc > > project we use two spaces as a set standard for the documents we > > produce. We have followed this for awhile now, if we let everyone > > submit under any standard, we would have some ugly looking documentation. > > The doc project accepts text that isn't even marked up. If the doc > project committers can mark up text, I think they can "fix" text that > doesn't adhere to what the author thinks is an antiquated standard. > If they can't, they can close the PR, and leave this activity > undocumented until someone comes along who'll leap through all the doc > project hurdles to write it up. Guys guys. We'd better spend our time in writing more useful docs. Of course the committer who takes care of a PR is supposed to look at the text of the submission and 'fix' it accordingly. I've done it a few times. I've seen it done, more than a few times too. Can we please drop this? Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 11:53:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A7637B405 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:53:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g2K7xlf04374; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:59:47 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:59:46 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "George V. Neville-Neil" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Issues with building docs... Message-ID: <20020320075946.D5971@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200203200421.g2K4LwfW036734@mail.meer.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xkJEvbTYpfqRozZ0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200203200421.g2K4LwfW036734@mail.meer.net>; from gnn@neville-neil.com on Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 08:21:58PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --xkJEvbTYpfqRozZ0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 08:21:58PM -0800, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: > 1) The textproc/docproj port no longer seems to work. It did not install= the=20 > dsssl stuff automatically, nor jade, etc. =20 I'm in the middle of updating it. For the time being, pick up the print/jadetex distfile from one of the FreeBSD mirrors (I use ftp.uk.freebsd.org).[1] > 2) Now that I think I've got the latest stuff installed I get massive bui= ld=20 > errors which > I've attached at the end of this email. >=20 > NOTE: I am using -CURRENT when I checkout the doc module. Is this a prob= lem? Shouldn't be. > /usr/local/bin/nsgmls -s -D /usr/obj/home/gnn/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1= /artic > les/laptop -c /home/gnn/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/../..= /../en > _US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /home/gnn/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1= /artic > les/laptop/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/= dsssl/ > modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c=20 > /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catal= og =20 > /home/gnn/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/article.sgml > /usr/local/bin/nsgmls:/home/gnn/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/lapt= op/../ > ../../share/sgml/freebsd41.dtd:70:63:W: cannot generate system identifier= for=20 > public text "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V4.1//EN" That's the "I can't find the DTD" error. Everything else is a direct result of this. N [1] I have two distfiles, both claiming to be Jadetex 3.11, with 100K+ of diffs between them. Someone needs to be whacked around the head with the 'software release process' cluestick :-( --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --xkJEvbTYpfqRozZ0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyYQXIACgkQk6gHZCw343UDJwCffMpCi79wRDpAI1PQVGa87DsU OpgAnA8o6ZxanJ+g8OlDSfKGf9mhj9Yh =PwWx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xkJEvbTYpfqRozZ0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 12: 0:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.datanet.hu (mx1.datanet.hu [194.149.13.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C31037B416 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from fonix.adamsfamily.xx (nilus-728.adsl.datanet.hu [195.56.50.220]) by mx1.datanet.hu (DataNet) with ESMTP id 97302F992 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:00:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from fonix.adamsfamily.xx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fonix.adamsfamily.xx (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2KK0Z1F001851 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:00:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sziszi@bsd.hu) Received: (from cc@localhost) by fonix.adamsfamily.xx (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2KK0YbE001850 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:00:34 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: fonix.adamsfamily.xx: cc set sender to sziszi@bsd.hu using -f Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:00:34 +0100 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd does not work Message-ID: <20020320200033.GA1810@fonix.adamsfamily.xx> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020316075540.GA945@fonix.adamsfamily.xx> <20020318134217.V37524-100000@www.freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020318134217.V37524-100000@www.freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 01:43:26PM -0800, Chern Lee wrote: > Thanks for the clarification, I was just going by natd(8): > > This program provides a Network Address Translation facility for use with > divert(4) sockets under FreeBSD. It is intended for use with NICs - if > you want to do NAT on a PPP link, use the -nat switch to ppp(8). > > Perhaps this needs to be updated, not my area though, volunteers are > welcome :) Yes, I think it could use some updating. In fact you get to choose, either use ppp with -nat or natd, but not both. If you use ipfw, using natd comes rather naturally. Likewise, using ipfilter with ipnat should also be possible. (but I have not tried that). On the other hand, maybe I will check with Brian Somers in case he has some compelling reasons to use the -nat option with ppp:-) -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szombathely Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 14: 4:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F32637B416 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:04:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F5CBD1F; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:04:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02628; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:04:30 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g2KM3wt54342; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:03:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: darklogik@pittgoth.com Cc: Mike Meyer , swear@blarg.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/36042: [PATCH] There's not a good description of shared builds in the handbook References: <200203192120.g2JLK3o17280@freefall.freebsd.org> <15512.3992.905972.279159@guru.mired.org> <20020320000727.284a00c1.darklogik@pittgoth.com> <15512.44867.930654.886921@guru.mired.org> <3C98C11E.30902@pittgoth.com> <15512.51581.789216.308497@guru.mired.org> <3C98D2B1.6040600@pittgoth.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 20 Mar 2002 14:03:58 -0800 In-Reply-To: <3C98D2B1.6040600@pittgoth.com> Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Rhodes writes: > I am in no way saying you cannot submit documentation, Gary just asked > nicely if you could use two spaces instead of one to make things easier, > and you have taken minor offence, if you feel that only one space is > needed, then we can add the extra space later. I don't think I asked (or would ask) that of Mike. I just got sucked in by Mike's rather inflamatory response to Martin's request to "Please put...". Mike seemed to think he was writing only for document formatters and that the opinions of schoolmarms (and, by inference, document maintainers) didn't matter to him. I took offense, though I tried not to show it in explaining that I thought Martin's issue was the readability of the raw document and that "double spaces" was still a good convention for fixed-pitch text. We disagree. No big deal. I do agree with Mike about the "barriers to entry". There are very many in the FDP and I think this one is unimportant enough that the FDP standard should explicitly permit one or more spaces, but suggest two. (Maybe it should instead suggest a newline, or either, but that's a different thread.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 14: 9:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CC0537B417 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32132 invoked by uid 10); 20 Mar 2002 22:09:43 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g2KM9YZ22278 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:09:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:09:34 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd does not work Message-ID: <20020320220934.GJ7195@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020316075540.GA945@fonix.adamsfamily.xx> <20020318134217.V37524-100000@www.freebsdmall.com> <20020320200033.GA1810@fonix.adamsfamily.xx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020320200033.GA1810@fonix.adamsfamily.xx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:00:34PM +0100, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > Yes, I think it could use some updating. In fact you get to choose, > either use ppp with -nat or natd, but not both. And if you need tcpmssd to use a lower MTU that that used by the tcpmssfixup option of ppp, you have no choice but to use ipfw and natd. > On the other hand, maybe > I will check with Brian Somers in case he has some compelling reasons to use > the -nat option with ppp:-) There is one very good argumen for ppp -nat: It works with GENERIC, ipfw/natd does not. /s/Udo -- Booze is the answer. I don't remember the question. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 14:17:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F9537B400 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2KMJNq33785; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:19:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C990D45.6070703@pittgoth.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:29:25 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: Mike Meyer , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/36042: [PATCH] There's not a good description of shared builds in the handbook References: <200203192120.g2JLK3o17280@freefall.freebsd.org> <15512.3992.905972.279159@guru.mired.org> <20020320000727.284a00c1.darklogik@pittgoth.com> <15512.44867.930654.886921@guru.mired.org> <3C98C11E.30902@pittgoth.com> <15512.51581.789216.308497@guru.mired.org> <3C98D2B1.6040600@pittgoth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Tom Rhodes writes: > > >>I am in no way saying you cannot submit documentation, Gary just asked >>nicely if you could use two spaces instead of one to make things easier, >>and you have taken minor offence, if you feel that only one space is >>needed, then we can add the extra space later. >> > > I don't think I asked (or would ask) that of Mike. I just got sucked in > by Mike's rather inflamatory response to Martin's request to "Please > put...". Mike seemed to think he was writing only for document > formatters and that the opinions of schoolmarms (and, by inference, > document maintainers) didn't matter to him. I took offense, though I > tried not to show it in explaining that I thought Martin's issue was the > readability of the raw document and that "double spaces" was still a > good convention for fixed-pitch text. We disagree. No big deal. > > I do agree with Mike about the "barriers to entry". There are very many > in the FDP and I think this one is unimportant enough that the FDP > standard should explicitly permit one or more spaces, but suggest two. > (Maybe it should instead suggest a newline, or either, but that's a > different thread.) > > > Then I got confused on who was asking about the 2 spaces, oh well, apologies for putting words in your mouth Gary... ;) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 16:10: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D3D37B417 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2L0A3F31097; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:10:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203210010.g2L0A3F31097@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/35683: Fix amd info Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35683; it has been noted by GNATS. 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Joaquin of saturn return; tme pro; aztek & dj prosecutor; and scars for hardboiled entertainment. info: mail@luv4art.com underground artworks entertainment To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 17:30: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687A537B404; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (c5.depaul-inst.pittsburgh.pa.us [192.168.1.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2L1WHq34003; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:32:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:37:41 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35683: Fix amd info Message-Id: <20020320203741.75382b4f.darklogik@pittgoth.com> In-Reply-To: <200203210010.g2L0A3F31097@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200203210010.g2L0A3F31097@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.5) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=.'z?DcP/f)GXOjH" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=.'z?DcP/f)GXOjH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:10:03 -0800 (PST) Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/35683; it has been noted by > GNATS. > > From: Giorgos Keramidas > To: Tom Rhodes > Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: docs/35683: Fix amd info > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:09:35 +0200 (EET) > > On 2002-03-09 16:43:56, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > Due to the diminishing IP space in IPv4, and the > > increased number of users on high-speed consumer lines > > such as cable or DSL, people are- in more and more > > need of an Internet Connection Sharing solution. The+ > > more in need of an Internet Connection Sharing > > solution. The > > `increasingly' in need? > > Other than that, I feel my brain going numb when I try to find a > clear way to describe the 'gateway' hunk of this patch, without > mentioning the word'gateway'. It still seems funny after the patch > though :/ > > Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation > Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} > http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ Maybe... perhaps... we could always describe the gateway as ``the door to the internet'' or doorway to the outside world... I like your ``increasingly'' idea, but I do not see the use of ``gateway'' in this paragraph. Here we are kinda opening up the natd section and trying to create that vision of understanding for our reader. I'm totally open to suggestions here ;) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal --=.'z?DcP/f)GXOjH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE8mTlpwPmgiRuevUMRAgjRAKCtN+9lV8/XlRqMT13nyfS2UkJFawCZAXZX MRUOYLg/gl5hDN+SPdKbAUU= =vm2j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.'z?DcP/f)GXOjH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 17:30:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B6437B419 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2L1U3k45703; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:30:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203210130.g2L1U3k45703@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/35683: Fix amd info Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35683; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35683: Fix amd info Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:37:41 -0500 --=.'z?DcP/f)GXOjH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:10:03 -0800 (PST) Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/35683; it has been noted by > GNATS. > > From: Giorgos Keramidas > To: Tom Rhodes > Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: docs/35683: Fix amd info > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:09:35 +0200 (EET) > > On 2002-03-09 16:43:56, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > Due to the diminishing IP space in IPv4, and the > > increased number of users on high-speed consumer lines > > such as cable or DSL, people are- in more and more > > need of an Internet Connection Sharing solution. The+ > > more in need of an Internet Connection Sharing > > solution. The > > `increasingly' in need? > > Other than that, I feel my brain going numb when I try to find a > clear way to describe the 'gateway' hunk of this patch, without > mentioning the word'gateway'. It still seems funny after the patch > though :/ > > Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation > Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} > http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ Maybe... perhaps... we could always describe the gateway as ``the door to the internet'' or doorway to the outside world... I like your ``increasingly'' idea, but I do not see the use of ``gateway'' in this paragraph. Here we are kinda opening up the natd section and trying to create that vision of understanding for our reader. I'm totally open to suggestions here ;) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal --=.'z?DcP/f)GXOjH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE8mTlpwPmgiRuevUMRAgjRAKCtN+9lV8/XlRqMT13nyfS2UkJFawCZAXZX MRUOYLg/gl5hDN+SPdKbAUU= =vm2j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=.'z?DcP/f)GXOjH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 18:14:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from outboundx.mv.meer.net (outboundx.mv.meer.net [209.157.152.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE3C37B417; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.meer.net (mail.meer.net [209.157.152.14]) by outboundx.mv.meer.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2L2EhC87219; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:14:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from neville-neil.com ([209.157.133.226]) by mail.meer.net (8.12.2/8.12.1/meer) with ESMTP id g2L2EaKQ021164; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:14:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203210214.g2L2EaKQ021164@mail.meer.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Jadetex saga (things work, but I figure I should explain) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:14:35 -0800 From: "George V. Neville-Neil" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After many de/reinstalls on teTeX and various packages I had a thought: "What if my old TEXINPUTS variable is inherited when I su to root to build/install ports?" What happens is jadetex does NOT build. So, in future (is there a FAQ) when installing these packages make sure you don't have any old TEX environment variables set. Thanks to everyone for all the help. Later, George -- George V. Neville-Neil gnn@neville-neil.com Neville-Neil Consulting www.neville-neil.com "We should not be ashamed to acknowledge truth from whatever source it comes to us, even if it is brought to us by former generations and foreign peoples. For him who seeks the truth there is nothing of higher value than truth itself." al-Kindi (c 801-66) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 19:46:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E1137B400; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020321034619.GVEC2951.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 03:46:19 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2L3kG600769; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:46:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200203210346.g2L3kG600769@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "George V. Neville-Neil" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Jadetex saga (things work, but I figure I should explain) In-reply-to: <200203210214.g2L2EaKQ021164@mail.meer.net> References: <200203210214.g2L2EaKQ021164@mail.meer.net> Comments: In-reply-to "George V. Neville-Neil" message dated "Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:14:35 -0800." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:46:16 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, "George V. Neville-Neil" wrote: > After many de/reinstalls on teTeX and various packages I had a thought: > "What if my old TEXINPUTS variable is inherited when I su to root to > build/install ports?" What happens is jadetex does NOT build. > > So, in future (is there a FAQ) when installing these packages make sure > you don't have any old TEX environment variables set. Hi George-- Your last message reminded me of PR 25419, in which I described a similar problem when I tried to install teTeX. It's still open: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/25419 If we knew what set of variables caused problems like this, we could at least make the port(s) output a warning of some sort before the build stage. Bruce. PS. I wonder if I can change the originator of a PR...that email address has been invalid for me for almost a year now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 20 20:20:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail8.nc.rr.com (fe8.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC9B37B400; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from i8k.babbleon.org ([66.57.85.154]) by mail8.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:20:33 -0500 Received: by i8k.babbleon.org (Postfix, from userid 111) id AD476BB39; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:20:28 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian T.Schellenberger To: "George V. Neville-Neil" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Jadetex saga (things work, but I figure I should explain) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:20:28 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <200203210214.g2L2EaKQ021164@mail.meer.net> In-Reply-To: <200203210214.g2L2EaKQ021164@mail.meer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020321042028.AD476BB39@i8k.babbleon.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 20 March 2002 09:14 pm, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: | After many de/reinstalls on teTeX and various packages I had a thought: | "What if my old TEXINPUTS variable is inherited when I su to root to | build/install ports?" What happens is jadetex does NOT build. *always* su - to switch to root before installing packages, building, and so forth. Sometimes -- heck, most of the time, for more people, a single "su" will suffice, but you're just asking for trouble. | | So, in future (is there a FAQ) when installing these packages make sure | you don't have any old TEX environment variables set. | | Thanks to everyone for all the help. | | Later, | George -- Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) ME --> http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org <-- GOOD GUYS --> http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 21 4: 9:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6D0837B404 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 04:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12106 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Mar 2002 12:09:50 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:09:50 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: "Brian T. Schellenberger" Cc: "George V. Neville-Neil" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Jadetex saga (things work, but I figure I should explain) Message-ID: <20020321140950.B4812@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: "Brian T. Schellenberger" , "George V. Neville-Neil" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200203210214.g2L2EaKQ021164@mail.meer.net> <20020321042028.AD476BB39@i8k.babbleon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020321042028.AD476BB39@i8k.babbleon.org>; from bts@babbleon.org on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 11:20:28PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 11:20:28PM -0500, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: > On Wednesday 20 March 2002 09:14 pm, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: > | After many de/reinstalls on teTeX and various packages I had a thought: > | "What if my old TEXINPUTS variable is inherited when I su to root to > | build/install ports?" What happens is jadetex does NOT build. >=20 > *always*=20 >=20 > su - >=20 > to switch to root before installing packages, building, and so forth. Of course, *then* you have the problem of making sure that root's profile scripts do not set any unwanted environment variables (as mine are wont to do :) But a 'su -' is a good first step, right. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 This sentence would be seven words long if it were six words shorter. --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyZzY0ACgkQ7Ri2jRYZRVOQqwCgs43p5xX67GGS7NyyOVJzfN/A 7S8AoIMEik9WLw6LghN+rgX8fFD31+rC =Knlz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MfFXiAuoTsnnDAfZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 21 7: 2:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from www.example.org (ANice-103-1-3-32.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.11.189.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E51AB37B400 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 07:02:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4651 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Mar 2002 15:02:49 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:02:49 +0100 From: Marco Molteni To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [PATCH] kld.4: mention DaemonNews article Message-ID: <20020321160249.A4646@cobweb.example.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, here is a small patch to the kld(4) man page, SEE ALSO section. Please feel free to edit it since I am not a man format expert. marco --- kld.4.old Thu Mar 21 15:58:34 2002 +++ kld.4.new Thu Mar 21 16:00:18 2002 @@ -129,6 +129,10 @@ .Xr kldload 8 , .Xr kldstat 8 , .Xr kldunload 8 + +The Daemon News article: "Dynamic Kernel Linker (KLD) Facility Programming +Tutorial", October 2000. + .Sh BUGS If a module B, is dependent on another module A, but is not compiled with module A as a dependency, then To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 21 7:44:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B917737B404 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 07:44:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 7F3E34B65D; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 07:44:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 07:44:35 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Marco Molteni Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] kld.4: mention DaemonNews article Message-ID: <20020321154435.GP26004@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020321160249.A4646@cobweb.example.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020321160249.A4646@cobweb.example.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Marco Molteni wrote: > here is a small patch to the kld(4) man page, SEE ALSO section. Please > feel free to edit it since I am not a man format expert. The Developer's Handbook has information about this as well, and if the DN article is better, then we should ask the author to submit some content to the FDP. It's not very common to link to external articles that may or may not be around over the life of the man page. Also, you should use the mdoc(7) reference macros for this : .Rs .%T "FreeBSD Developers' Handbook" .%O http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ .Re - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 21 9:10: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9412037B404 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2LHA1R82165; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from Daffy.timing.com (daffy.timing.com [206.168.13.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DC537B404 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from Elmer.timing.com (elmer.timing.com [206.168.13.187]) by Daffy.timing.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2LH2TW81784; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 10:02:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jhein@timing.com) Received: (from jhein@localhost) by Elmer.timing.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2LH2Tf50539; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 10:02:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jhein) Message-Id: <200203211702.g2LH2Tf50539@Elmer.timing.com> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 10:02:29 -0700 (MST) From: "John E. Hein" Reply-To: "John E. Hein" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/36168: -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc.info (& _REENTRANT) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 36168 >Category: docs >Synopsis: -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc.info (& _REENTRANT) >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 21 09:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John E. Hein >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE >Organization: Timing Solutions Corporation >Environment: System: 4-STABLE & -CURRENT >Description: FreeBSD's gcc.info does not contain documentation about -pthread as the FreeBSD gcc.1 man page does. Then there's the issue of some headers using _REENTRANT and some using _THREAD_SAFE (but see bin/36167 for a separate bug on that issue) >How-To-Repeat: man gcc search for -pthread observe positive match info gcc search for -pthread ... nope >Fix: Update gcc.info to match the man page with respect to -pthread. Possibly update the docs to describe _REENTRANT as well pending the fix for bin/36167. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 21 9:42:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx01.nfr.com (mx01.nfr.com [63.91.45.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0E437B41A for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:42:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.nfr.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx01.nfr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68E622262D for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from l10n.hq.nfr.net (l10n.hq.nfr.net [65.202.219.68]) by mx01.nfr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AEB222626 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from codered.hq.nfr.net (codered.hq.nfr.net [65.202.219.67]) by l10n.hq.nfr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B7066B56 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:42:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:42:07 -0500 (EST) From: Nigel Houghton X-X-Sender: nigel@codered.hq.nfr.net To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 21 12: 1:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4AF37B417; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020321200112.DUTG2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:01:12 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2LK1BP11072; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:01:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200203212001.g2LK1BP11072@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "George V. Neville-Neil" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Jadetex saga (things work, but I figure I should explain) In-reply-to: <200203210346.g2L3kG600769@bmah.dyndns.org> References: <200203210214.g2L2EaKQ021164@mail.meer.net> <200203210346.g2L3kG600769@bmah.dyndns.org> Comments: In-reply-to "Bruce A. Mah" message dated "Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:46:16 -0800." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:01:11 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wrote: > Your last message reminded me of PR 25419, in which I described a > similar problem when I tried to install teTeX. It's still open: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/25419 > > If we knew what set of variables caused problems like this, we could at > least make the port(s) output a warning of some sort before the build > stage. If someone wants to fix this (and I think it should be fixed): The list of environment variables that make teTeX complain during installation is defined as $envvars in the ports/print/teTeX/work/teTeX-1.0/texk/tetex/texconfig script. texconfig prints a warning if any of these environment variables are set; the problem (as I remember it) is that if I cancelled the installation at this point and re-run the port's install, the port has *already* installed some stuff into ${PREFIX} which keeps it from working properly. I seem to remember blowing away /usr/local/share/texmf and being able to install after that. What the port should do is either try to sanitize the environment or print a warning before the build stage. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 21 12:44:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D71437B42A; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020321204402.ZQIG1147.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:44:02 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2LKi2e11735; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:44:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200203212044.g2LKi2e11735@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: nik@freebsd.org, bradyn@maths.tcd.ie Cc: bmah@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: docproj port problem From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 12:44:02 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think there's a problem with rev 1.36 of ports/textproc/docproj/ Makefile, which was submitted as PR 29153. I'm trying to do an install of the textproc/docproj port onto my 5.0-DP1 testing machine, which has never had teTeX or any of the docproj toolchain installed on it. If I do "make JADETEX=yes" on the docproj port, the Makefile tries to invoke kpsewhich to add a value to RUN_DEPENDS. Alas, kpsewhich is a part of teTeX, which isn't installed at this point. As a result, jadetex won't get built as one of docproj's dependencies. Chicken, egg. Ideas? Bruce. ----- tomcat:docproj% sudo make JADETEX=yes WITH_OPENJADE=yes install Password: ===> Extracting for docproj-1.9 >> No MD5 checksum file. ===> Patching for docproj-1.9 ===> Configuring for docproj-1.9 ===> Installing for docproj-1.9 kpsewhich: not found ===> docproj-1.9 depends on executable: instant - not found ===> Verifying install for instant in /usr/ports/textproc/sgmlformat ... continues ... 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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1D14B.5C37D5C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 21 19:33:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D8437B419; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a088.otenet.gr [212.205.215.88]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2M3XJOQ011539; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 05:33:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2M3XObe023149; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 05:33:24 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2M3XOfU023147; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 05:33:24 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 05:33:19 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Rhodes Cc: FreeBSD-advocacy@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Advocacy site - reviews requested Message-ID: <20020322033319.GA22260@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020319223346.4364e318.darklogik@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020319223346.4364e318.darklogik@pittgoth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-03-19 22:33, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Recently, I took the time to sit down and threw a new one togeather, > using some information I found scattered about FreeBSD.org, a new site > was born. Much of the information came from a vision Nik Clayton had > awhile ago... Cool work :) There's only one thing that worries me a bit. The categories of links you've provided on the page are not listed in a TOC of some sorts near the top of the page. This means that hunting down for the "Web Resources" section is going to become harder and harder as this page grows :/ Some fancier way of presenting 'categories of links', is probably needed. But a TOC will do just fine too. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 21 19:50: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CB537B41A; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (c5.depaul-inst.pittsburgh.pa.us [192.168.1.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2M3q4q35833; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:52:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:57:28 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: FreeBSD-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New FreeBSD Advocacy site - reviews requested Message-Id: <20020321225728.5dc872bd.darklogik@pittgoth.com> In-Reply-To: <20020322033319.GA22260@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020319223346.4364e318.darklogik@pittgoth.com> <20020322033319.GA22260@hades.hell.gr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.5) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=.IG:Vr5t/)PtTh7" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=.IG:Vr5t/)PtTh7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 05:33:19 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-03-19 22:33, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > Recently, I took the time to sit down and threw a new one > > togeather, using some information I found scattered about > > FreeBSD.org, a new site was born. Much of the information came > > from a vision Nik Clayton had awhile ago... > > Cool work :) There's only one thing that worries me a bit. The > categories of links you've provided on the page are not listed in a > TOC of some sorts near the top of the page. This means that hunting > down for the "Web Resources" section is going to become harder and > harder as this page grows :/ > > Some fancier way of presenting 'categories of links', is probably > needed. But a TOC will do just fine too. > > - Giorgos > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > Maybe that would work, but should we maybe break down the links, make a ``more information'' page? Let me know what you think on that... 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Mah" Cc: nik@freebsd.org, bradyn@maths.tcd.ie, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docproj port problem Message-ID: <20020322062538.GA24440@hades.hell.gr> References: <200203212044.g2LKi2e11735@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203212044.g2LKi2e11735@bmah.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-03-21 12:44, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I think there's a problem with rev 1.36 of ports/textproc/docproj/ > Makefile, which was submitted as PR 29153. > > I'm trying to do an install of the textproc/docproj port onto my 5.0-DP1 > testing machine, which has never had teTeX or any of the docproj > toolchain installed on it. > > If I do "make JADETEX=yes" on the docproj port, the Makefile tries to > invoke kpsewhich to add a value to RUN_DEPENDS. Alas, kpsewhich is a > part of teTeX, which isn't installed at this point. As a result, > jadetex won't get built as one of docproj's dependencies. > > Chicken, egg. Not very helpful, I guess, but I rebuilt all my ports las night, and the jadetex stuff works fine when JADETEX=no. Just thought I'd let you know, in case anyone wants to test/unbreak this for the JADETEX=yes case. Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 21 22:32:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C0C37B400; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2M6Wbr36325; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:32:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:32:37 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203220632.g2M6Wbr36325@freefall.freebsd.org> To: darklogik@pittgoth.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/35683: Fix amd info Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Fix amd info State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Thu Mar 21 22:30:40 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Slightly modified version committed. Thanks for helping bring this in shape, both in mail and IRC. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35683 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 22 0: 6:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from malagasy.com (malagasy.com [64.110.150.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3DB37B41A for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from 3dnet (192.116.113.74) by malagasy.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.1.1) for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:55:27 +0300 Message-ID: <000801c1d187$e7cd0dd0$0a01a8c0@3dnet> Reply-To: "Rija Tsioritiana" From: "Rija Tsioritiana" To: Subject: installation FreeBSD avec windows 2000 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:56:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1D190.4932B400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1D190.4932B400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ? 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1D190.4932B400-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 22 1:30:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84F137B400 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 01:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2M9U2J96958; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 01:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 01:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203220930.g2M9U2J96958@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Peter Pentchev Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Reply-To: Peter Pentchev Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35649; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Peter Pentchev To: Boris Popov Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:21:37 +0200 On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:44:14PM +0600, Boris Popov wrote: > On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > > Yes, this path is somewhat incorrect and update to mount_smbfs.8 > > > is required. However an example of dor.nsmbrc file already installed as > > > /etc/nsmb.conf. The syntax of both files are the same with exception that > > > system-wide configuration file will override equal settings in the per > > > account dot.nsmbrc file. > > > > Well, I have to admit that I never noticed that a sample file was > > actually installed; however, there are two problems I can see with > > that. First, /etc/nsmb.conf is not exactly the same as dot.nsmbrc; > > second, /etc/nsmb.conf is not exactly usable as a reference for > > normal users, should they want to do per-user settings - it is installed > > with 0600 permissions, making it quite hard to read :) > > Yep, forgot about the mode. In this light src/share/examples/smbfs > diff is ok for me. Thanks, I just committed it, will MFC in a week. G'luck, Peter -- Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 Thit sentence is not self-referential because "thit" is not a word. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 22 3:27:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.nc.rr.com (mail7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D738737B400; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 03:27:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from i8k.babbleon.org ([66.57.85.154]) by mail7.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:03:55 -0500 Received: by i8k.babbleon.org (Postfix, from userid 111) id 20D96BB39; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:03:56 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian T.Schellenberger To: "George V. Neville-Neil" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Jadetex saga (things work, but I figure I should explain) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:03:55 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <200203210214.g2L2EaKQ021164@mail.meer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020321070356.20D96BB39@i8k.babbleon.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 20 March 2002 11:20 pm, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: | On Wednesday 20 March 2002 09:14 pm, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: | | After many de/reinstalls on teTeX and various packages I had a thought: | | "What if my old TEXINPUTS variable is inherited when I su to root to | | build/install ports?" What happens is jadetex does NOT build. | | *always* | | su - | | to switch to root before installing packages, building, and so forth. | | Sometimes -- heck, most of the time, for more people, a single "su" will ^^^^^^ I meant "simple", not a "single." A single su, of course, will suffice if it has the - (login) option. | suffice, but you're just asking for trouble. | | | So, in future (is there a FAQ) when installing these packages make sure | | you don't have any old TEX environment variables set. | | | | Thanks to everyone for all the help. | | | | Later, | | George -- Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) ME --> http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org <-- GOOD GUYS --> http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 22 4:42:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr (diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B174A37B400 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 04:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14137 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2002 12:40:54 -0000 Received: from pc-c4.cc.ceid.upatras.gr (HELO pcc4) (150.140.140.144) by diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr with SMTP; 22 Mar 2002 12:40:54 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c1d19d$4c3b9b50$908c8c96@cc.ceid.upatras.gr> From: "George" To: Subject: I think the ZIP article needs a little editing... Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:30:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1D1AE.0F7057E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1D1AE.0F7057E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello ;) I think there should be an addition to the ZIP article for the new = USB drives. I didn't had a single problem setting up such a drives, but = some may have. Thanx George ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1D1AE.0F7057E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--#MYBOUNDARY#-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 22 7:22: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0D737B419 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 3F2794B65D; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:22:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:22:03 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: George Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: I think the ZIP article needs a little editing... Message-ID: <20020322152203.GI26004@freebsdmall.com> References: <000801c1d19d$4c3b9b50$908c8c96@cc.ceid.upatras.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c1d19d$4c3b9b50$908c8c96@cc.ceid.upatras.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Agreed. Please send us your additions, and we'll add them to the text. Thanks! - Murray On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 02:30:05PM +0200, George wrote: > Hello ;) > I think there should be an addition to the ZIP article for the new USB drives. I didn't had a single problem setting up such a drives, but some may have. > > Thanx > > George To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 22 9:54:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659CC37B404; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:54:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16oTFM-0007ag-00; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:54:36 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16oTF5-0008aZ-00; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:54:19 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 17:54:19 +0000 From: Ceri To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Callout images for the Handbook Message-ID: <20020322175418.GA32876@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , doc@FreeBSD.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unless anyone has any idea why this isn't already enabled, then I'd like to commit the attached patch, which simply allows me to make use of 10 callouts (I need to document a configuration file with 10 points of note, and feel callouts are the best way to do this). I need this in order to commit an article I've written on setting up a DHCP server. The images are already there, we're just not using them for some reason, hence this request for feedback. Thanks, Ceri --=20 keep a mild groove on --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="handbook-Makefile.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile.old Fri Mar 22 17:50:08 2002 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile Fri Mar 22 17:50:25 2002 @@ -104,6 +104,11 @@ IMAGES_LIB+=3D callouts/3.png IMAGES_LIB+=3D callouts/4.png IMAGES_LIB+=3D callouts/5.png +IMAGES_LIB+=3D callouts/6.png +IMAGES_LIB+=3D callouts/7.png +IMAGES_LIB+=3D callouts/8.png +IMAGES_LIB+=3D callouts/9.png +IMAGES_LIB+=3D callouts/10.png =20 #=20 # SRCS lists the individual SGML files that make up the document. Changes --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8m2/KocfcwTS3JF8RApEyAJ9PI/uLCWzPTDlzUUcIZu0o3N8oQACbBHxo oP6B+iYcbjyo+L41EKN7+uQ= =zBfs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 22 10:20:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E3737B400; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2MIMWq37105; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:22:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C9B78C8.5030400@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:32:40 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, murray@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Callout images for the Handbook References: <20020322175418.GA32876@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org With only a quick review, I myself give the opinion of ``go for it'' ;) Ceri wrote: > Unless anyone has any idea why this isn't already enabled, then I'd > like to commit the attached patch, which simply allows me to make use > of 10 callouts (I need to document a configuration file with 10 points > of note, and feel callouts are the best way to do this). > > I need this in order to commit an article I've written on setting up > a DHCP server. > > The images are already there, we're just not using them for some reason, > hence this request for feedback. > > Thanks, > > Ceri > > -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 22 11:20:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F9837B417 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2MJK1A72922; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB7437B400 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2MJCUN71681; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:12:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200203221912.g2MJCUN71681@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:12:30 -0800 (PST) From: Nagy Attila To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/36214: pccard.conf manpage contains a type: annonce instead of announce Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 36214 >Category: docs >Synopsis: pccard.conf manpage contains a type: annonce instead of announce >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 22 11:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Nagy Attila >Release: 4-STABLE >Organization: FSN >Environment: >Description: The oneliner says it all. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: s/annonce/announce/g >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 22 11:35:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4C737B404; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g2M8E3u37925; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:14:03 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 08:14:02 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: nik@freebsd.org, bradyn@maths.tcd.ie, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docproj port problem Message-ID: <20020322081402.A30474@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200203212044.g2LKi2e11735@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200203212044.g2LKi2e11735@bmah.dyndns.org>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 12:44:02PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 12:44:02PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I think there's a problem with rev 1.36 of ports/textproc/docproj/ > Makefile, which was submitted as PR 29153. >=20 > I'm trying to do an install of the textproc/docproj port onto my 5.0-DP1 > testing machine, which has never had teTeX or any of the docproj=20 > toolchain installed on it. >=20 > If I do "make JADETEX=3Dyes" on the docproj port, the Makefile tries to > invoke kpsewhich to add a value to RUN_DEPENDS. Alas, kpsewhich is a > part of teTeX, which isn't installed at this point. As a result, > jadetex won't get built as one of docproj's dependencies. Can you try the big patch to docproj/Makefile that I posted a few days ago. It teaches the Makefile about the FORMATS variable, so now you can do make 'FORMATS=3Dhtml txt' install in the port, and only the tools necessary for those formats will be installed. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjya58oACgkQk6gHZCw343Wh3ACfZ5+cw5L2EYYF0RT0hCmhE9uE KW4AoImjuTZrV/+zMDD5ps4rvxNrUkr3 =GdKe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 22 13:46:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts22.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE0537B417 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:46:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from testsys02 ([65.92.149.195]) by tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020322214622.DYMH7627.tomts22-srv.bellnexxia.net@testsys02> for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:46:22 -0500 From: "Omid Radman" To: Subject: strategic alliance Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:44:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C1D1C0.E6E248C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C1D1C0.E6E248C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ________________________________ Dear Madame/Sir, We have been searching on the internet and came across your company as a potential candidate for a strategic alliance and I am writing to verify if your company is interested in promoting software products to pharmaceutical companies on commission basis. We are expanding in several markets and looking for partners to assist us expedite our expansion by marketing, promotion, sale and distribution of our products to pharmaceutical, Biotech, Chemical and Biological companies. Novatek International provides 21 CFR part 11 compliant software such as Stability program, Finished product analyzer, Raw material Analyzer, Calibration program, and Automated packaging component Analyzer. Our current customers include companies such as Bayer, Aventis, Shering Plough, Allergan, Pfizer etc... I have attached a brief summary of our products. For further information please consult our website www.ntint.com Please do not hesitate to contact us if we can be of further assistance. Regards E. Burnett President Novatek International www.ntint.com eburnett@ntint.com 514-336-6847 Fax: 514-739-7080 The Stability Program software application The Stability module is a software application that manages the day-to-day activities of the stability department within the quality control and/or R&D divisions. Its design takes into consideration the latest guidelines from the FDA, TPP, ICH and EU, among others, pertaining to pharmaceutical, chemical, biological and biotechnological fields. This software is designed for all types of products, from pre-clinical to post market, innovator or generic. The Stability module is 21 CFR part 11 compliant and has an extensive, independent audit trail. The Raw Material© software application The Raw Material Analyzer module is a software application that is used to facilitate the testing of Raw materials and incoming Packaging components. The Software consists of the following windows: Product Registration, where the user can input pertinent information regarding the product and the type of packaging used in shipment of the Raw Materials; Monograph, where the user can define the required tests; Certificate of Analysis: used for entering, verifying and approving the data; The Approved manufacturers and Suppliers list; where the user can verify that the product is from an approved source; Investigation; where the user can initiate an Out of Specification Investigation. The trending of lots is possible to ensure that the raw material manufacturing process is under control. The Raw Material module is 21 CFR part 11 compliant and has an extensive, independent audit trail. The Finished Product Analyzer© software application The Finished Product Analyzer module is a software application that is used for capturing the test data from Finished product testing. This application consists of Product Registration, where the user can input pertinent information regarding the product and the type of packaging; Monograph, where the user can define the required tests; Certificate of Analysis: used for entering, verifying and approving the data; The Approved manufacturers and Suppliers list; where the user verifies that the product is from an approved source; Investigation; where the user can initiate an Out of Specification Investigation. The trending of lots is possible to ensure that the process is under control. The Finished Product module is also 21 CFR part 11 compliant and has an extensive, independent audit trail. The Preventive Maintenance and Calibration© software application The Preventive Maintenance and Calibration (PMC) module is a software application that is used to track the status of equipments used in a regulated environment. The software allows the registration of the equipment, the definition of the required tests to ensure the equipments are within the specifications and a test report where the user can enter the obtained results. The software will automatically show the equipments due for calibration. The inventory control window allows the purchase and update of the required spare parts for each calibration. The PMC module is also 21 CFR part 11 compliant and has an extensive, independent audit trail. The Automated Packaging Component Analyzer© software application The Automated Packaging Component Analyzer (APCA) module is an application used to automatically verify the incoming printed components against a pre-approved master. This software is language independent and capable of detecting the smallest error within the test and the master scans. It is capable of analyzing a predefined number of samples against the master and providing the error in each and every test sample. The user will have the choice to accept or reject the printed components based on the type of errors obtained. The APCA is envisioned to replace the tedious task of manually verifying a printed component against the master. The APCA module is, once again, 21 CFR part 11 compliant and has an extensive, independent audit trail. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C1D1C0.E6E248C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 


 
 

________________________________
Dear Madame/Sir, 
 
We have been searching on = the internet=20 and came across your company as a potential = candidate for a=20 strategic alliance and I am writing to verify if your company is = interested in=20 promoting software products to pharmaceutical companies on commission basis.  We are expanding in = several=20 markets and looking for partners to assist us expedite our expansion by=20 marketing, promotion, sale and distribution of our products to = pharmaceutical,=20 Biotech, Chemical and Biological companies. 
 
Novatek International provides 21 CFR part 11 = compliant=20 software such as Stability program, Finished product analyzer, Raw = material=20 Analyzer, Calibration program, and Automated packaging component=20 Analyzer. Our current customers include companies such as Bayer, = Aventis,=20 Shering Plough,  Allergan,=20 Pfizer etc...    I have = attached=20 a brief summary of our products.  For further information please = consult=20 our website www.ntint.com
 
Please do not hesitate to contact us = if we can=20 be of further assistance.
 
Regards
 
E. Burnett
President
Novatek International
www.ntint.com
eburnett@ntint.com
514-336-6847 
Fax: 514-739-7080
 
 =20

The = Stability=20 Program software application

The Stability = module is a=20 software application that manages the day-to-day activities of the = stability=20 department within the quality control and/or R&D divisions. Its = design takes=20 into consideration the latest guidelines from the FDA, TPP, ICH and EU, = among=20 others, pertaining to pharmaceutical, chemical, biological and = biotechnological=20 fields. This software is designed for all types of products, from = pre-clinical=20 to post market, innovator or generic. The Stability module is 21 CFR = part 11=20 compliant and has an extensive, independent audit=20 trail.

The = Raw=20 Material=A9 = software=20 application

The Raw Material Analyzer = module is a=20 software application that is used to facilitate the testing of Raw = materials and=20 incoming Packaging components. The Software consists of the following = windows:=20 Product Registration, where the user can input pertinent information = regarding=20 the product and the type of packaging used in shipment of the Raw = Materials;=20 Monograph, where the user can define the required tests; Certificate of=20 Analysis: used for entering, verifying and approving the data; The = Approved=20 manufacturers and Suppliers list; where the user can verify that the = product is=20 from an approved source; Investigation; where the user can initiate an = Out of=20 Specification Investigation. The trending of lots is possible to ensure = that the=20 raw material manufacturing process is under control. The Raw Material = module is=20 21 CFR part 11 compliant and has an extensive, independent audit=20 trail.

The = Finished=20 Product Analyzer=A9 = software=20 application

The Finished Product Analyzer = module is=20 a software application that is used for capturing the test data from = Finished=20 product testing. This application consists of Product Registration, = where the=20 user can input pertinent information regarding the product and the type = of=20 packaging; Monograph, where the user can define the required tests; = Certificate=20 of Analysis: used for entering, verifying and approving the data; The = Approved=20 manufacturers and Suppliers list; where the user verifies that the = product is=20 from an approved source; Investigation; where the user can initiate an = Out of=20 Specification Investigation. The trending of lots is possible to ensure = that the=20 process is under control. The Finished Product module is also 21 CFR = part 11=20 compliant and has an extensive, independent audit = trail.

The Preventive = Maintenance and=20 Calibration=A9=20 software application

The Preventive Maintenance = and=20 Calibration (PMC) module is a software application that is used to track = the=20 status of equipments used in a regulated environment. The software = allows the=20 registration of the equipment, the definition of the required tests to = ensure=20 the equipments are within the specifications and a test report where the = user=20 can enter the obtained results. The software will automatically show the = equipments due for calibration. The inventory control window allows the = purchase=20 and update of the required spare parts for each calibration. The PMC = module is=20 also 21 CFR part 11 compliant and has an extensive, independent audit=20 trail.

The Automated = Packaging=20 Component Analyzer=A9=20 software application

The Automated Packaging = Component=20 Analyzer (APCA) module is an application used to automatically verify = the=20 incoming printed components against a pre-approved master. This software = is=20 language independent and capable of detecting the smallest error within = the test=20 and the master scans. It is capable of analyzing a predefined number of = samples=20 against the master and providing the error in each and every test = sample. The=20 user will have the choice to accept or reject the printed components = based on=20 the type of errors obtained. The APCA is envisioned to replace the = tedious task=20 of manually verifying a printed component against the master. The APCA = module=20 is, once again, 21 CFR part 11 compliant and has an extensive, = independent audit=20 trail.

 
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C1D1C0.E6E248C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 22 15:30:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E4F37B430; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:29:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a104.otenet.gr [212.205.215.104]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MNTkIg010477; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:29:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2MNTjbe051482; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:29:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2MNTiM7051481; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:29:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 01:29:43 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ceri Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Callout images for the Handbook Message-ID: <20020322232943.GA51205@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020322175418.GA32876@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: application/pgp; x-action=sign; format=text Content-Disposition: inline; filename="msg.pgp" In-Reply-To: <20020322175418.GA32876@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2002-03-22 17:54, Ceri wrote: > > Unless anyone has any idea why this isn't already enabled, then I'd > like to commit the attached patch, which simply allows me to make use > of 10 callouts (I need to document a configuration file with 10 points > of note, and feel callouts are the best way to do this). > > I need this in order to commit an article I've written on setting up > a DHCP server. Handbook builds fine, with the change. Just finished building my 'cvs up'ed copy of the docs, and patched it with the change. It still builds fine. I say do it. Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE8m75n1g+UGjGGA7YRAoM4AKCdVuA2Q3Y5rjCi4T2MAY6CWtnrcACfZcUT zXmahfJYB7w7StY1ZwPj5nI= =Y+ie -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 23 5:12:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED6C37B417 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 05:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16olKE-0002MI-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 13:12:50 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16olK3-000B6B-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 13:12:39 +0000 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 13:12:39 +0000 From: Ceri To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Java project is a subproject of the Doc project ? Message-ID: <20020323131239.GA42532@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've just been looking over the staff lists in the contributors article, and on the documentation project page, we have this : FreeBSD Java Project Patrick S. Gardella Doesn't that belong somewhere else ? Ceri --=20 keep a mild groove on --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8nH9HocfcwTS3JF8RAlLTAJ9HVKG1BBJoeoMHCOTJD8wFiutvgQCghwK8 bYmtQ3eGioF8elp05AFmCYM= =DFMD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 23 8: 3:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (usercq55.uk.uudial.com [62.188.156.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D577637B431; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 08:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g2N6kZp49889; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 06:46:35 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 06:46:34 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Ceri Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Callout images for the Handbook Message-ID: <20020323064634.D30474@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020322175418.GA32876@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NtwzykIc2mflq5ck" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020322175418.GA32876@submonkey.net>; from ceri@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 05:54:19PM +0000 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --NtwzykIc2mflq5ck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 05:54:19PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > Unless anyone has any idea why this isn't already enabled,=20 It's so that we didn't install any callout images that weren't going to be used. > then I'd > like to commit the attached patch, which simply allows me to make use > of 10 callouts (I need to document a configuration file with 10 points > of note, and feel callouts are the best way to do this). Looks fine. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --NtwzykIc2mflq5ck Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjycJMoACgkQk6gHZCw343VLaACfQZQHhymQALhWb0JfwRzp6mOm xsAAn2jgQ1KHfchgpzbtKGD9L8o6TXPu =eysY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NtwzykIc2mflq5ck-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 23 15:32: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F2237B430 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 15:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2NNU1j15812; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 15:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from aragorn.neomedia.it (aragorn.neomedia.it [195.103.207.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A027E37B417 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 15:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from httpd@localhost) by aragorn.neomedia.it (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g2NNPmr06810 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 00:25:48 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <1016925948.3c9d0efc18ea0@webmail.neomedia.it> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 00:25:48 +0100 (CET) From: Salvo Bartolotta To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/36241: ambiguous description of directory permissions Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 36241 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ambiguous description of directory permissions >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 23 15:30:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Salvo Bartolotta >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none of importance >Environment: System: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Tue Mar 12 18:46:03 CET 2002 >Description: In http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/permissions.html is written:
Directories are also treated as files. They have read, write, and execute permissions. The executable bit for a directory has a slightly different meaning than that of files. When a directory is marked executable, it means it can be searched into, for example, a directory listing can be done in that directory.
This seems inaccurate/ambiguous (to me) for this reason: 213 12:12am ~ >====> ll -d trial d--x------ 3 otto otto 512 Oct 28 02:25 trial 214 12:12am ~ >====> ll trial ls: trial: Permission denied 215 12:12am ~ >====> cd trial 216 12:12am ~/trial >====> 217 12:13am ~/trial >====> ls ls: .: Permission denied That is, the execute permission alone allows one to __cd__ to a directory, rather than list its contents. >How-To-Repeat: Read the handbook. :-) >Fix: IIUC, something along the lines of the following: When a directory is marked executable, it means it can be searched into, i.e. one can cd (change directory) to it. This also means that, in the directory in question, one can access those files whose names one knows, the type of access being related to the permissions on the files. In particular, in order to be able to do a directory listing, one must set the read permission on the directory; in order to delete a file (whose name is known), one must set the write AND execute permissions on the directory containing the file. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 23 16: 3:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DEC7E37B400; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from hamilton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 24 Mar 2002 00:03:08 +0000 (GMT) To: bmah@freebsd.org Cc: nik@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docproj port problem X-It's: all good X-Wigglefluff: fuddtastic X-Zippy: I have many CHARTS and DIAGRAMS.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:25:35 PST." <200203212225.g2LMPZ712950@bmah.dyndns.org> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 00:03:07 +0000 From: Niall Brady Message-ID: <200203240003.aa95290@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:25:35 PST, bmah@freebsd.org said: > >With my RE team hat on, I'll say we can probably hold a day or two. I >put the rest of RE on notice that there's a small problem so there >won't be any surprises. Best to back it out... I'm a bit all over the place with work these days... no point holding up the release ;-) I'll fix it after... -- Niall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 23 16:49:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBD337B404; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2O0ncI30066; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:49:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 16:49:38 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203240049.g2O0ncI30066@freefall.freebsd.org> To: bartequi@neomedia.it, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/36241: ambiguous description of directory permissions Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ambiguous description of directory permissions State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 23 16:47:30 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Slightly modified version of your text committed in revision 1.58 of doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml Thanks for your submission! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36241 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 23 18:35:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D84437B421; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2O2ZBj63308; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:35:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:35:11 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203240235.g2O2ZBj63308@freefall.freebsd.org> To: bra@fsn.hu, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/36214: pccard.conf manpage contains a type: annonce instead of announce Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: pccard.conf manpage contains a type: annonce instead of announce State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 23 18:35:05 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36214 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 23 18:36: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C41F37B404; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2O2a0J64543; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:36:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 18:36:00 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203240236.g2O2a0J64543@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, darrenr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/36127: ipnat(5) man page glitches Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ipnat(5) man page glitches Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->darrenr Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Mar 23 18:35:51 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36127 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 23 19: 9:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AF937B478; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:09:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2O39FS14162; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:09:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:09:15 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203240309.g2O39FS14162@freefall.freebsd.org> To: peckdani@msu.edu, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/36105: Error in printing section of handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Error in printing section of handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 23 19:09:07 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36105 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 23 19:43:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7579437B404; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:43:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2O3hkR64746; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:43:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:43:46 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203240343.g2O3hkR64746@freefall.freebsd.org> To: martin.karlsson@visit.se, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/36100: [PATCH] Examples A-3, A-4, and A-5 in A.3.1 of the fdp-primer are mistyped Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Examples A-3, A-4, and A-5 in A.3.1 of the fdp-primer are mistyped State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 23 19:41:06 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed in revision 1.9 of file doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/examples/appendix.sgml Thanks :))) If it isn't too much trouble, could you use 'diff -u' for changes to the docs next time? Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Mar 23 19:41:06 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36100 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 23 20: 7:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAEE37B404; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 20:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2O47CU99706; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 20:07:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 20:07:12 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203240407.g2O47CU99706@freefall.freebsd.org> To: martin@sumuk.de, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/36010: [PATCH] rename COMx: to COMx Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] rename COMx: to COMx State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 23 20:07:02 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=36010 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message