From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 3:10:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5075537B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 03:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEDC43E4A for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 03:10:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBFBAAx3061144 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 03:10:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBFBAABC061143; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 03:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1FA37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 03:03:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.uitwisseling.nl (e137166.upc-e.chello.nl [213.93.137.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3710643ED1 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 03:03:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reinierk@mail.uitwisseling.nl) Received: from mail.uitwisseling.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.uitwisseling.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBFB0sSF021116; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:00:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from reinierk@mail.uitwisseling.nl) Received: (from root@localhost) by mail.uitwisseling.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBFB0rXF021115; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:00:53 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200212151100.gBFB0rXF021115@mail.uitwisseling.nl> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:00:53 +0100 (CET) From: Reinier@kleipool.org Reply-To: reinier@kleipool.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, reinier@kleipool.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46271: Omission in ldconfig(8) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46271 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Omission in ldconfig(8) manpage >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Dec 15 03:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Reinier Kleipool >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Protocomix >Environment: System: FreeBSD mail.uitwisseling.nl 4.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #1: Sun Dec 8 15:09:45 CET 2002 root@mail.uitwisseling.nl:/usr/src/sys/compile/UITWISSELING i386 >Description: ldconfig(8) manpage is unclear about the filenames that will be added to the hintsfile. It turns out that only files matching lib*.so.[0-9] will be added to the hints file. This fact is NOT recorded in the manpage. It took me several days to find out why my library was not added. >How-To-Repeat: running ldconfig on the directories filenames not matching lib*.so.[0-9] will not be added to the hintsfile. The man page does not make this clear. >Fix: Add the following lines to the ldconfig(8) manpage: line. Blank lines and lines starting with the comment character `#' are ignored. Filenames must conform to the following pattern in order to be added to the hints file: lib*.so.[0-9] >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 11:25:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E71337B401; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 11:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D13D43EA9; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 11:25:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18NeO4-00013j-00; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:25:16 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:25:16 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Joseph King , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues with fdp-primer book Message-ID: <20021215192516.GC3902@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Giorgos Keramidas , Joseph King , doc@freebsd.org References: <20021212233646.GA44211@v2project.com> <20021213080259.GA49067@v2project.com> <20021215001826.GA5083@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021215001826.GA5083@gothmog.gr> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 02:18:26AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-12-13 09:02, Joseph King wrote: > > Ok, forget the jadetext issue, i follow the quickstart method that give > > the execution of "make JADETEX=no" for the docproc environment, > > > > this method not say that pdf output are not possible without jadetex > > package, will be good a short description explain this issue because > > quick method its the firts thing that a impatient reader tend to look > > for starting to write a doc. > > i think. > > Perhaps a note like this? Something like this should be enough to > avoid foot shooting, when picking JADETEX=no. The FDP Primer does actually say that JADETEX=no will render you unable to build the PDF format already: See the Optional Tools section. However, I agree that perhaps this could be mentioned elsewhere. Ceri -- Face the might of a 250 pound woman! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 12:40: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A72037B401; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-103-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F8443EC2; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:39:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBFKdopx005090; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 20:39:50 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBFKdoxO077017; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 20:39:50 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id gBFKdoA9077016; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 20:39:50 GMT Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 20:39:50 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: (review plz) Documenting MASTER_SITES:n code Message-ID: <20021215203950.GD2816@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20021208234934.3628.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UfEAyuTBtIjiZzX6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021208234934.3628.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --UfEAyuTBtIjiZzX6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 09:49:12PM -0200, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wr= ote: > That was the previous documentation. :) I've just finished > writing a thourough documentation for MASTER_SITES:n feature. [...] > http://people.freebsd.org/~lioux/book.html.gz#PORTING-MASTER-SITES-N Thanks for the updates. Having read that, I'd tack your new section 4.4.7.2 ("Detailed information") on to the end of the existing section. =20 IMHO the replacement for the main body of 4.4.7 doesn't add to the=20 original text, and in the replacement text I'd prefer to see fewer=20 informal phrases ("explain in HUGE scary detail") which we've been=20 slowly excising from the Handbook. I haven't had a chance to look over the actual markup yet. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --UfEAyuTBtIjiZzX6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9/OiVk6gHZCw343URAh3wAKCLC7+QH6hWL83QK+jeTPYjSHFCKgCeJgOB JDWwQ5kL02IIdT3UGRCB6Ng= =VeaR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UfEAyuTBtIjiZzX6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 12:56:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871E137B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from bear.orl.ru (bear.orl.ru [213.59.67.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E6F43ED8 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:56:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rxm@mail.ru) Received: from odb ([213.59.67.37]) by bear.orl.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id gBFKrFZ50390 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:53:15 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:53:15 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <200212152053.gBFKrFZ50390@bear.orl.ru> From: RxMax Laboratory To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Программирование и дизайн Reply-To: rxm@mail.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Вам нужна программа, аналогов которой еще не существует в компьютерном мире? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 13: 1:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29C137B489 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:01:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from bear.orl.ru (bear.orl.ru [213.59.67.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7F343EB2 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:01:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rxm@mail.ru) Received: from odb ([213.59.67.37]) by bear.orl.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id gBFKw3Z50721 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:58:03 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:58:03 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <200212152058.gBFKw3Z50721@bear.orl.ru> From: RxMax Laboratory To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Программирование и дизайн Reply-To: rxm@mail.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Вам нужна программа, аналогов которой еще не существует в компьютерном мире? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 13:36: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C0237B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4476D43E4A for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:36:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18NgQa-0001a1-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:36:00 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:36:00 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Apostrophe Usage Message-ID: <20021215213600.GA6049@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can never remember this. In the next sentence, does that apostrophe belong there or not ? Include an abstract of the book's contents here. Thanks, Ceri -- My ancestors's stone! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 13:42:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFF037B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B2E43EDA for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:42:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18NgX7-0001c8-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:42:45 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:42:45 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apostrophe Usage Message-ID: <20021215214245.GC6049@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , doc@freebsd.org References: <20021215213600.GA6049@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021215213600.GA6049@submonkey.net> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:36:00PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > I can never remember this. > > In the next sentence, does that apostrophe belong there or not ? > > Include an abstract of the book's contents here. My brain turned on (thanks to a swift slap from Eric). Don't worry. Ceri -- By the rock of the All-Father! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 14:10: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0274637B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A5343EDE for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBFMA2x3074449 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBFMA2UJ074446; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EB137B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:09:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-172-174.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.172.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DA943EE6 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:09:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Received: from cfcl.com (localhost.cfcl.com [127.0.0.1]) by cfcl.com (8.12.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id gBFMASTj001110 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:10:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Received: (from rdm@localhost) by cfcl.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBFMASMP001109; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:10:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212152210.gBFMASMP001109@cfcl.com> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:10:28 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Morin Reply-To: rdm@cfcl.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/46279: typo in sio(4) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46279 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typo in sio(4) man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Dec 15 14:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rich Morin >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Canta Forda Computer Laboratory >Environment: FreeBSD cfcl.com 4.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 16 12:01:18 PST 2002 rdm@cfcl.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/CFCL i386 >Description: In the FILES section of the sio(4) man page, the text reads: The devices numbers are made from the set ... device >How-To-Repeat: % man sio >Fix: edit the man page sources >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 16:26:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A45737B406 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:26:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAF643EC5 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:26:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a141.otenet.gr [212.205.215.141]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBG0QgEP011437; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 02:26:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBG0QG1L015298; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 02:26:41 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBFNvvYw013484; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:57:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:57:57 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Daniel Harris Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues with fdp-primer book Message-ID: <20021215235757.GL9246@gothmog.gr> References: <20021212233646.GA44211@v2project.com> <20021213080259.GA49067@v2project.com> <20021215001826.GA5083@gothmog.gr> <20021215030015.GA1228@xpee.worksforfood.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021215030015.GA1228@xpee.worksforfood.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-12-14 22:00, Daniel Harris wrote: > On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 02:18:26AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Perhaps a note like this? Something like this should be enough to > > avoid foot shooting, when picking JADETEX=no. > [...] > > + as necessary. Note that you can only produce HTML and ASCII > > I prefer "can produce only"--otherwise the implication is that installing > with JADETEX=yes will prevent the production of HTML or plaintext. Hmmm, you're right of course. > > + PostScript or PDF output require that TeX is installed. > > ...require that TeX be installed. I'm not sure about this one. Is it wrong with "is"? I need to reread my articles on English grammar it seems :) Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 16:34:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DAC37B401; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:34:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from vectors.cx (manifold.vectors.cx [64.163.147.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2D843EC2; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:34:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: from vectors.cx (687d41a1cbac8cdbf44d06774b2d4f32@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vectors.cx (8.12.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id gBG0aWfC011710; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:36:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: (from monkey@localhost) by vectors.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBG0aW6i011709; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:36:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:36:32 -0800 From: Adam Weinberger To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Daniel Harris , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: issues with fdp-primer book Message-ID: <20021216003632.GM311@vectors.cx> References: <20021212233646.GA44211@v2project.com> <20021213080259.GA49067@v2project.com> <20021215001826.GA5083@gothmog.gr> <20021215030015.GA1228@xpee.worksforfood.com> <20021215235757.GL9246@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021215235757.GL9246@gothmog.gr> X-Editor: Vim 6.1 http://www.vim.org X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5 http://www.mutt.org X-PGP-Key: http://www.vectors.cx/pgp.key.txt X-URL: http://www.vectors.cx http://www.crackula.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> (12.15.2002 @ 1557 PST): Giorgos Keramidas said, in 0.8K: << > On 2002-12-14 22:00, Daniel Harris wrote: > > ...require that TeX be installed. > > I'm not sure about this one. Is it wrong with "is"? I need to reread > my articles on English grammar it seems :) >> end of "Re: issues with fdp-primer book" from Giorgos Keramidas << What's wrong with "require TeX."? The passive clause thing just makes it tougher to wade through. # Adam - -- Adam Weinberger vectors.cx >> adam@vectors.cx FreeBSD.org << adamw@FreeBSD.ORG Bayer Berkeley >> adam.weinberger.b@bayer.com #vim:set ts=8: 8-char tabs prevent tooth decay. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9/SAQo8KM2ULHQ/0RAmKsAJ9A+aVahMDDoddDu9c6AI2MriWxFgCg1ijg Iq6MEHEATty4gbCHSQjcG1g= =Cydl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 16:53:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BAC37B401; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9C243EA9; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:53:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBG0rix3021186; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:53:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBG0rdrN021182; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:53:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 16:53:39 -0800 (PST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <200212160053.gBG0rdrN021182@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rdm@cfcl.com, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46279: typo in sio(4) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in sio(4) man page State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Sun Dec 15 16:52:46 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed to current, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->keramida Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Dec 15 16:52:46 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of the MFC. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46279 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 17:31:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F7637B401; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from dunnevant.worksforfood.com (pool-151-205-67-143.char.east.verizon.net [151.205.67.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EDF43EC5; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 17:31:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dannyboy@worksforfood.com) Received: from xpee.worksforfood.com (xpee.worksforfood.com [192.168.0.195]) by dunnevant.worksforfood.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5208C2FDD7; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 20:31:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dannyboy@localhost) by xpee.worksforfood.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBG1V2dB013515; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 20:31:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dannyboy) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 20:31:02 -0500 From: Daniel Harris To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues with fdp-primer book Message-ID: <20021216013102.GA13485@xpee.worksforfood.com> Mail-Followup-To: Giorgos Keramidas , doc@freebsd.org References: <20021212233646.GA44211@v2project.com> <20021213080259.GA49067@v2project.com> <20021215001826.GA5083@gothmog.gr> <20021215030015.GA1228@xpee.worksforfood.com> <20021215235757.GL9246@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021215235757.GL9246@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:57:57AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > ...require that TeX be installed. > > I'm not sure about this one. Is it wrong with "is"? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Dec 15 21:30: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3279D37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4729943ED1 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBG5U1x3009083 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBG5U1ib009082; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C803B37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mirapoint3.brutele.be (mirapoint3.brutele.be [212.68.203.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62D643EFA for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:21:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jylefort@twist.frontis.net) Received: from gateway.lefort.net ([213.189.162.78]) by mirapoint3.brutele.be (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.0-GA) with ESMTP id AFP91629; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:21:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from jsite.lefort.net (jsite.lefort.net [192.168.1.2]) by gateway.lefort.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BC854F9 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:21:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by jsite.lefort.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C74323005; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:21:06 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20021216052106.4C74323005@jsite.lefort.net> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:21:06 +0100 (CET) From: Jean-Yves Lefort Reply-To: Jean-Yves Lefort To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46286: there's an omission and an error in the natd(8) manual page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46286 >Category: docs >Synopsis: there's an omission and an error in the natd(8) manual page >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Dec 15 21:30:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jean-Yves Lefort >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p2 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD jsite.lefort.net 4.7-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p2 #0: Sat Nov 16 11:18:01 CET 2002 jylefort@jsite.lefort.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JSITE i386 >Description: The attached patch (diffed against $FreeBSD: src/sbin/natd/natd.8,v 1.55 2002/08/13 14:10:36 ru Exp $) is self-explanatory. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- natd.8.orig Mon Dec 16 05:34:59 2002 +++ natd.8 Mon Dec 16 06:03:16 2002 @@ -65,7 +65,10 @@ If an entry is found, it is used to determine the correct target IP number and port to place in the packet. .Pp -The following command line options are available: +The following command line options are available (note that address +and port settings may be passed as symbolic names, in which case +.Nm +will attempt to resolve them upon startup): .Bl -tag -width Fl .It Fl log | l Log various aliasing statistics and information to the file @@ -155,12 +158,11 @@ range need not be the same numerically, but must have the same size. If .Ar remotePORT -is not specified, it is assumed to be all ports. +is not specified, or specified as 0, it is assumed to be all ports. If .Ar remotePORT -is specified, it must match the size of -.Ar targetPORT , -or be 0 (all ports). +is specified as a range, it must match the size of +.Ar targetPORT . For example, the argument .Pp .Dl Ar tcp inside1:telnet 6666 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 2:17:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4D537B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 02:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [64.57.102.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE6543ED4 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 02:17:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lioux@brturbo.com) Received: from 200-163-6-159-bsace7003.dsl.telebrasilia.net.br (200-163-6-159-bsace7003.dsl.telebrasilia.net.br [200.163.6.159]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67739BAE4 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 02:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 26673 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Dec 2002 09:56:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20021216095611.26672.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:55:49 -0200 From: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira To: Nik Clayton Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org, Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: (review plz) Documenting MASTER_SITES:n code References: <20021208234934.3628.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <20021215203950.GD2816@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021215203950.GD2816@clan.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-Disclaimer: I hope you find what you are looking for... in life :) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 08:39:28PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 09:49:12PM -0200, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > > That was the previous documentation. :) I've just finished > > writing a thourough documentation for MASTER_SITES:n feature. > > [...] > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~lioux/book.html.gz#PORTING-MASTER-SITES-N > > Thanks for the updates. > > Having read that, I'd tack your new section 4.4.7.2 ("Detailed > information") on to the end of the existing section. Humm, I've just updated the documentation with feedback from keramida. Could you check it? It is a lot less informal. :) And the markup is way better. > IMHO the replacement for the main body of 4.4.7 doesn't add to the > original text, and in the replacement text I'd prefer to see fewer I've just added that information as a historical background of the feature: where did it come from; as well as for creditting OpenBSD for the original idea. :) Check the updated version, I am sure there is a lot of room for improvement. hehe # sample Porters' Handbook with added section http://people.FreeBSD.org/~lioux/book.html.gz # patch against Porter's Handbook http://people.FreeBSD.org/~lioux/patch-book.sgml Regards, -- Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." Computer Science Undergraduate | FreeBSD Committer | CS Developer flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 6:30: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE2337B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8C743ED4 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:30:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGEU5x3086310 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:30:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGEU59E086309; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F7C37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6B343E4A for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 06:28:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) Received: from sentry.granch.ru (IDENT:smmsp@localhost.granch.ru [127.0.0.1]) by sentry.granch.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGESXE0042970 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:28:33 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) Received: (from root@localhost) by sentry.granch.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGESXYU042969; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:28:33 +0600 (NOVT) (envelope-from shelton) Message-Id: <200212161428.gBGESXYU042969@sentry.granch.ru> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:28:33 +0600 (NOVT) From: "Rashid N. Achilov" Reply-To: "Rashid N. Achilov" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46291: correlation between HZ kernel config parameter and socket timeouts is not documented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46291 >Category: docs >Synopsis: correlation between HZ kernel config parameter and socket timeouts is not documented >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Dec 16 06:30:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rashid N. Achilov >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: Granch Ltd. >Environment: System: FreeBSD sentry.granch.ru 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #6: Mon Dec 9 09:59:17 NOVT 2002 shelton@sentry.granch.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/Sentry i386 >Description: man setsockopt(2), FreeBSD Handbook and FreeBSD FAQ have missed a correlation between HZ kernel configuration parameter and maximal timeout, accessible to setsockopt() function, when try to set SO_SNDTIMEO or SO_RCVTIMEO. This correlation defined in ~sys/kern/uipc_socket.c in function sosetopt() and is SHRT_MAX / HZ. When HZ set to 1000 (advisable to DEVICE_POLLING), maximum timeout value shorted from 327 sec to 32 sec without any notification. Also I think, EDOM is not suitable error code this occassion. >How-To-Repeat: Include in your kernel config line HZ = 1000 recompile kernel, reload kernel and try to set socket timeout more than 32 sec. System replied: Numerical domain out or range. Which correlation has a math error to socket operation? >Fix: Delete HZ option in kernel config file or do not use socket timeouts more than SHRT_MAX / HZ (rounded to short int) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 8:54:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A1C37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-msg-core-1.cisco.com (ams-msg-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.74.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BC243ED4 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:54:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from molter@tin.it) Received: from cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ams-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gBGGr0cq020617 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:53:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from www.example.org (dhcp-nic-val-26-98.cisco.com [64.103.26.98]) by cisco.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29755 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:54:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (qmail 53678 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Dec 2002 16:54:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20021216165420.53677.qmail@cobweb.example.org> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:54:20 +0100 From: Marco Molteni To: docs@freebsd.org Subject: an easy PR to close X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, please have a look at the following PR and close it: [PATCH] to sh(1) manual page: trapsasync http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=docs/45820 thanks marco To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 9: 5: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDA537B401; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:05:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9473F43E4A; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:05:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id gBGH4sNN093230; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:04:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:05:22 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Marco Molteni Cc: docs@FreeBSD.org, tjr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: an easy PR to close Message-Id: <20021216120522.660d8a89.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20021216165420.53677.qmail@cobweb.example.org> References: <20021216165420.53677.qmail@cobweb.example.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:54:20 +0100 Marco Molteni wrote: > Hi, > > please have a look at the following PR and close it: > > [PATCH] to sh(1) manual page: trapsasync > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=docs/45820 > > thanks > marco Tim (tjr) has been doing alot of work with sh(1) and I want him to look this over before I commit. What I am worried about is a standards issue, perhaps over time we will be changing trapsasync to asynctraps? Tim, can I commit this? -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 9: 5:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B63C37B401; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484FA43ED4; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:05:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGH5Xx3091035; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:05:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGH5WjU091031; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:05:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:05:32 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200212161705.gBGH5WjU091031@freefall.freebsd.org> To: molter@tin.it, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/45820: [PATCH] to sh(1) manual page: trapsasync Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] to sh(1) manual page: trapsasync State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 16 09:05:15 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: I'm following up. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=45820 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 9: 6: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B9F37B401; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F17543ED1; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:06:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGH68x3091094; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:06:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGH687q091090; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:06:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:06:08 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200212161706.gBGH687q091090@freefall.freebsd.org> To: trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/45820: [PATCH] to sh(1) manual page: trapsasync Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] to sh(1) manual page: trapsasync Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 16 09:05:36 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Assign this PR to me so its not lost. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=45820 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 11: 0:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854FF37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7771043EC2 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:00:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGJ0Fx3019666 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:00:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGJ0Enu019660 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:00:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:00:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212161900.gBGJ0Enu019660@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/10/04] i386/14135 doc lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han o [2002/03/06] docs/35620 doc make release fails in documentation for R o [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/04/12] docs/37029 doc The translation in Italian language of th o [2002/08/20] docs/41824 doc LANG is not documented in setlocale(3) o [2002/08/21] docs/41865 doc [PATCH] XFree86 section should document - o [2002/08/22] docs/41892 doc Patch to fix slowdowns of documentation b o [2002/09/01] docs/42292 doc PPP documentation should use quote marks o [2002/09/02] docs/42339 doc Release process doesn't document required o [2002/09/13] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/10/07] docs/43776 doc /etc/sshd_config settings overridden by P o [2002/10/09] docs/43854 doc undocumented possibiliny of non-zero errn o [2002/11/14] docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o [2002/12/02] docs/45948 doc Porter's Handbook doesn't address securit o [2002/12/15] docs/46286 doc there's an omission and an error in the n 19 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/29] docs/26943 doc [patch] description of :C modifier is mis o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. o [2001/12/01] docs/32425 doc Document cvs update `P file' output o [2001/12/10] docs/32674 doc no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- o [2002/01/15] misc/33926 doc Search function on website can not access o [2002/02/01] docs/34529 doc [patch] Grammar nits in usbd.conf(5) and o [2002/02/03] docs/34577 doc Some man pages still advise using "confli o [2002/02/15] bin/34955 doc [PATCH] ps(1) is out of touch with realit a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/02/26] docs/35343 doc Old broken Unix docco Makefiles o [2002/03/03] docs/35523 doc manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) o [2002/03/05] docs/35575 doc Pw(8) man page makes no mention of /var/l o [2002/03/06] docs/35602 doc dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a o [2002/03/06] docs/35607 doc dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35647 doc www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/07] docs/35649 doc mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot. o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/12] docs/35823 doc [PATCH] Little Restructuring of the Devel o [2002/03/15] docs/35941 doc cd(4) manual doesn't mention "target" use o [2002/03/15] docs/35942 doc at(1) manual doesn't describe at.allow an o [2002/03/15] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/15] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/18] docs/36055 doc [PATCH] adding some help-yourself-info to o [2002/03/20] misc/36154 doc Getting USB mouse to work: usbd and mouse o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/28] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin o [2002/03/28] docs/36459 doc tftp(1) manual's "get" syntax/description o [2002/03/29] docs/36524 doc bad links on handbook index page o [2002/04/01] docs/36628 doc header an footer of openssl manpages are o [2002/04/03] docs/36724 doc ipnat(5) manpage grammar is incomplete an o [2002/04/18] docs/37221 doc obsolete reference to seqpacket in mount_ o [2002/04/25] docs/37457 doc acpi(4) man page references non-existant o [2002/04/25] docs/37470 doc jail field not documented in procfs(5) o [2002/04/29] docs/37557 doc there is no ciss(4) RAID controller man p o [2002/04/29] docs/37558 doc there is no iir(4) RAID controller man pa o [2002/04/29] docs/37559 doc there is no ida(4) RAID man page o [2002/05/02] docs/37693 doc Minor correxion to FreeBSD Porter's Handb o [2002/05/03] docs/37719 doc Detail VOP_ naming in a relevant man-page o [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/11] docs/37952 doc Typos, missing/incorrect accents in Itali o [2002/05/22] docs/38426 doc extra manpage .Xr to locate relevant sysc o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38618 doc Malloc types can be used with multiple al o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/27] docs/38647 doc cvsupit built-in instructions are slightl o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/02] docs/38810 doc Minor change in section 2.13.5 of the Han o [2002/06/02] docs/38815 doc Many typo fixed, and a question left unan o [2002/06/02] docs/38817 doc /usr/share/man/man8/boot.8.gz documents / o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/08] docs/39044 doc The man page for rot13(6) never mentions o [2002/06/10] docs/39129 doc handbook; type WRT simulating postscript o [2002/06/11] docs/39164 doc Misprint in units(1).lib (aganist) o [2002/06/12] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/12] docs/39214 doc No my(4) man page o [2002/06/13] docs/39257 doc printf manpage doesn't document error ret o [2002/06/14] docs/39293 doc the dumpon man page incorrectly states th o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/19] docs/39532 doc 'find' man page should o [2002/06/24] docs/39822 doc firewall.7: change "Mbits" to "Mbits/s" a o [2002/06/24] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/04] docs/40196 doc man find does not describe -follow o [2002/07/05] docs/40234 doc Typos and language cleanup in /usr/share/ o [2002/07/07] docs/40313 doc Grammar, wording, and clarifications for o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/10] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/22] docs/40910 doc [PATCH] Typos & grammer fixes for /usr/sh o [2002/07/22] docs/40911 doc [PATCH] Minor improvements for /usr/share o [2002/07/24] docs/40951 doc Various fixes for the solid-state article o [2002/07/24] docs/40952 doc login.conf should mention that "idletime" o [2002/07/26] docs/41034 doc [PATCH] Typos in /etc/named/named.conf co o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/07/29] docs/41110 doc "apropos linux" doesn't find brandelf o [2002/07/30] docs/41166 doc man page for smp(4) is short on details o [2002/07/30] docs/41167 doc adventure.6 man-page, add section AUTHORS f [2002/07/30] docs/41181 doc Poor grammar in the dialog manpage o [2002/08/02] docs/41263 doc [PATCH] Clarifications and minor grammer o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/07] docs/41423 doc Update FAQ: attrib command for windows du o [2002/08/12] docs/41578 doc Incorrect #include in the usb(4) manpage o [2002/08/12] docs/41580 doc usb(4) manpage: Structures' fields aren't o [2002/08/13] docs/41643 doc New FAQ entry explaining UDMA ICRC errors f [2002/08/16] docs/41703 doc tcpdump manual mistake, with a draft amen o [2002/08/18] docs/41761 doc Update for /ru/internal/ part of site o [2002/08/19] docs/41787 doc man page for route (Section 8) missing de o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/19] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) o [2002/08/21] docs/41879 doc cleanup to DOCROOT/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl o [2002/08/22] docs/41919 doc MINI kernel for bootfloppy (Handbook p.34 o [2002/08/29] docs/42182 doc Making Dedicated Mode disks doc out of da o [2002/09/01] docs/42293 doc copystr(9) man page incorrectly describes o [2002/09/01] docs/42312 doc make release broken without full ports o [2002/09/11] docs/42651 doc [PATCH] mount([28]) do not document vfs.u o [2002/09/13] docs/42760 doc [PATCH] Correct the order of fxp devices o [2002/09/25] docs/43357 doc PATCH: fix error in reallocf(3) manpage o [2002/09/26] docs/43410 doc hardware-i386.html doesn't even mention p o [2002/09/27] docs/43416 doc pw(8) -u uidmin,uidmax feature is out of o [2002/10/01] docs/43569 doc src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-dat o [2002/10/03] docs/43622 doc Undocumented modules (missing man pages) o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/06] docs/43750 doc incorrect "SEE ALSO" references in wi(4) o [2002/10/06] docs/43755 doc Additional examples for vnconfig man page o [2002/10/06] docs/43756 doc chpass(1) manual unclear about alternate o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page o [2002/10/09] docs/43864 doc Minor documentation to add o [2002/10/10] docs/43899 doc incorrect info in man page for fetch (8) o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/14] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/17] docs/44164 doc [PATCH] Update example CVSup refuse files p [2002/10/18] docs/44206 doc handbook for 4.7-RELEASE mentions devfs o [2002/10/18] docs/44217 doc Problematic PDF version of handbook for 4 o [2002/10/19] docs/44296 doc Contributors page refers to History secti o [2002/10/20] docs/44312 doc Typos in /usr/src/share/examples/ipfw/cha o [2002/10/21] docs/44337 doc [PATCH] netstat(1) manual references none o [2002/10/21] docs/44363 doc /etc/rc.firewall & /etc/rc.firewall6 don' o [2002/10/23] docs/44400 doc ipfw(8) has contradictions in bridged and o [2002/10/24] docs/44435 doc sysctl manpage: add example for tcsh o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/11/04] docs/44870 doc Most sysconf(3) variables are undocumente o [2002/11/11] docs/45213 doc [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contrib o [2002/11/11] docs/45214 doc [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contrib o [2002/11/11] docs/45215 doc [PATCH] Fix sorting in Additional Contrib o [2002/11/14] docs/45294 doc LINT notes are murky re PQ_CACHESIZE sett o [2002/11/17] docs/45371 doc man page for exports lacks information on o [2002/11/22] docs/45604 doc Minor language fixes to syslog.conf.5 o [2002/11/24] docs/45671 doc missing cross-reference in usb(4) o [2002/11/25] docs/45702 doc Error in manual page ssh_config(5) o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46181 doc "make fetch-recursive" target description o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/11] docs/46200 doc fix for ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/porters-handbo o [2002/12/14] docs/46252 doc [Patch] mprotect.2 update and clarificati o [2002/12/14] docs/46253 doc madvise(2) manual page is too specific o [2002/12/15] docs/46271 doc Omission in ldconfig(8) manpage o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para 162 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 11:15:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E35A37B401; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFAC43EA9; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:15:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <20021216191528003006k015e>; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:15:28 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBGJLi2J054201; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:21:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id gBGJLcnv054198; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:21:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues with fdp-primer book References: <20021212233646.GA44211@v2project.com> <20021213080259.GA49067@v2project.com> <20021215001826.GA5083@gothmog.gr> <20021215030015.GA1228@xpee.worksforfood.com> <20021215235757.GL9246@gothmog.gr> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 16 Dec 2002 11:21:38 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20021215235757.GL9246@gothmog.gr> Message-ID: <7lof7lhirh.f7l@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > + PostScript or PDF output require that TeX is installed. > > > > ...require that TeX be installed. > > I'm not sure about this one. Is it wrong with "is"? I need to reread > my articles on English grammar it seems :) I suspect that using "is" is a common practice in writing and acceptable to most readers, at least by all but the few who know grammar well, and I suspect it is more common than "be" in spoken English. I happen to agree that "be" sounds more proper, but I've studied grammar little. But both can easily, if not properly, be interpreted (if one didn't know better) to mean that Tex must be RE-installed. It might be more clear as "require an installed Tex" (or awkwardly, "require that TeX has been installed", or even more awkwardly using "pre-installed"). BTW, I think that the first part actually should be "PostScript and PDF ^^^-NOTE output require" (or, though I could argue against "or" (it sounds like the writer doesn't know for which it's true), "Postscript or PDF output requires"). ^-NOTE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 11:41:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B254137B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBA743E4A for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:41:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52) with ESMTP id <2002121619413705200155ode>; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:41:37 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBGJlw2J054528; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:47:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id gBGJlqrj054525; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:47:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Ceri Davies Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apostrophe Usage References: <20021215213600.GA6049@submonkey.net> <20021215214245.GC6049@submonkey.net> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 16 Dec 2002 11:47:52 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20021215214245.GC6049@submonkey.net> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ceri Davies writes: > On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:36:00PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > I can never remember this. > > > > In the next sentence, does that apostrophe belong there or not ? > > > > Include an abstract of the book's contents here. > > My brain turned on (thanks to a swift slap from Eric). Don't worry. I worry that you asked the question wrongly. Does the "'s" belong? I think so, but these should be OK too: Include an abstract of the book contents here. Include an abstract of the book content here. Include an abstract of the book's content here. (The "book content[s]" being used as one word.) But they probably should be shortened to one of these: Include an abstract of the book here. Include here an abstract of the book. [yuk] Mushy language, English. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 11:56:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656E937B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C5D43E4A for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id gBGJukNN016161; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:56:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:57:13 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: setantae@submonkey.net, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Apostrophe Usage Message-Id: <20021216145713.5821cc6d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20021215213600.GA6049@submonkey.net> <20021215214245.GC6049@submonkey.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16 Dec 2002 11:47:52 -0800 swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) wrote: > Ceri Davies writes: > > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:36:00PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > I can never remember this. > > > > > > In the next sentence, does that apostrophe belong there or not ? > > > > > > Include an abstract of the book's contents here. > > > > My brain turned on (thanks to a swift slap from Eric). Don't worry. > > I worry that you asked the question wrongly. Does the "'s" belong? > > I think so, but these should be OK too: > > Include an abstract of the book contents here. > Include an abstract of the book content here. > Include an abstract of the book's content here. > > (The "book content[s]" being used as one word.) > > But they probably should be shortened to one of these: > > Include an abstract of the book here. > Include here an abstract of the book. [yuk] > > Mushy language, English. > If I'm not mistaken, doesn't an apostrophe (Tom's system) apply to ownership. Therefor, the (book's content) would be correct. -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 12: 0:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BBB37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:00:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3C243ED8 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:00:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGK0Hx3039756 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:00:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGK0HOJ039755; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DF137B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-172-174.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.172.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DE043E4A for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Received: from cfcl.com (localhost.cfcl.com [127.0.0.1]) by cfcl.com (8.12.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id gBGJurs4001431 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Received: (from rdm@localhost) by cfcl.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGJurdQ001430; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212161956.gBGJurdQ001430@cfcl.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:53 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Morin Reply-To: rdm@cfcl.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/46295: please add information to Nvi recovery email Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46295 >Category: docs >Synopsis: please add information to Nvi recovery email >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: wish >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Dec 16 12:00:16 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rich Morin >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Canta Forda Computer Laboratory >Environment: FreeBSD cfcl.com 4.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 16 12:01:18 PST 2002 rdm@cfcl.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/CFCL i386 >Description: vi (nvi, really), sends out email when it discovers that a file was being edited during a disorderly machine shutdown: >On Sun Nov 24 13:08:39 2002, the user rdm was editing a file >named About_Us.htm on the machine cfcl.com, when it was >saved for recovery. You can recover most, if not all, of the >changes to this file using the -r option to vi: > > vi -r About_Us.htm It might be useful to add some text to this message, saying that /var/tmp/vi.recover is the default recovery file directory. (I know this is in the man page for vi, but an explicit note would also be useful.) >How-To-Repeat: Edit a file. Have a power outage (:-). >Fix: Add some text to the email. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 12:10: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C733737B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFE643EC2 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGKA3x3046584 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGKA3EK046583; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:10:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:10:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212162010.gBGKA3EK046583@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/46295: please add information to Nvi recovery email Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/46295; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: rdm@cfcl.com Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46295: please add information to Nvi recovery email Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:07:33 -0500 On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:56:53 -0800 (PST) Rich Morin wrote: > vi (nvi, really), sends out email when it discovers that a > file was being edited during a disorderly machine shutdown: > > >On Sun Nov 24 13:08:39 2002, the user rdm was editing a file > >named About_Us.htm on the machine cfcl.com, when it was > >saved for recovery. You can recover most, if not all, of the > >changes to this file using the -r option to vi: > > > > vi -r About_Us.htm > > It might be useful to add some text to this message, saying > that > /var/tmp/vi.recover is the default recovery file directory. (I > know this is in the man page for vi, but an explicit note > would also be useful.) Shouldn't this be a conf issue? -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 12:30: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431AE37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF11443EC2 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGKU2x3050837 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGKU2cZ050836; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212162030.gBGKU2cZ050836@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Rich Morin Subject: Re: docs/46295: please add information to Nvi recovery email Reply-To: Rich Morin Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/46295; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Rich Morin To: Tom Rhodes Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46295: please add information to Nvi recovery email Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:16:55 -0800 At 3:07 PM -0500 12/16/02, Tom Rhodes wrote: >Shouldn't this be a conf issue? Sorry, I missed editing the "Category" field. OTOH, whether it belongs in "conf" depends on whether the template for the email is stored in a file or hard-coded into nvi (:-). Anyway, feel free to change the bug to a more appropriate category. -r -- email: rdm@cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm - my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 12:32: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2523D37B401; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55BC43EA9; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:32:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGKW5x3052730; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:32:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGKW5bw052726; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:32:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:32:05 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200212162032.gBGKW5bw052726@freefall.freebsd.org> To: trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/45671: missing cross-reference in usb(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: missing cross-reference in usb(4) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Dec 16 12:30:53 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: I've done significant work in the relm of usb documentation. Over to me. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=45671 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 13: 3:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B6637B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836D843EC2 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:03:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18O2Ok-0000dE-00; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:03:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:03:34 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apostrophe Usage Message-ID: <20021216210334.GA2196@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , "Gary W. Swearingen" , doc@freebsd.org References: <20021215213600.GA6049@submonkey.net> <20021215214245.GC6049@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:47:52AM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Ceri Davies writes: > > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:36:00PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > I can never remember this. > > > > > > In the next sentence, does that apostrophe belong there or not ? > > > > > > Include an abstract of the book's contents here. > > > > My brain turned on (thanks to a swift slap from Eric). Don't worry. > > I worry that you asked the question wrongly. Does the "'s" belong? Ah yes, perhaps. It wasn't so much that sentence in particular, as much as the fact that I had totally forgotten how apostrophes work. > Mushy language, English. Indeed. ;) Ceri -- Your last breath awaits! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 13:10: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3A137B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C6D43EC5 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:10:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGLA4x3064055 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:10:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGLA4Q5064053; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:10:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:10:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212162110.gBGLA4Q5064053@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: docs/46295: please add information to Nvi recovery email Reply-To: Ceri Davies Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/46295; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri Davies To: Rich Morin Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46295: please add information to Nvi recovery email Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:05:26 +0000 On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:56:53AM -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > >On Sun Nov 24 13:08:39 2002, the user rdm was editing a file > >named About_Us.htm on the machine cfcl.com, when it was > >saved for recovery. You can recover most, if not all, of the > >changes to this file using the -r option to vi: > > > > vi -r About_Us.htm > > It might be useful to add some text to this message, saying that > /var/tmp/vi.recover is the default recovery file directory. (I > know this is in the man page for vi, but an explicit note would > also be useful.) I'm not sure of the motivation here. All the user really needs to know is how to get their file back, which they've been told. Ceri -- I am the greataxe of the Dwarf Father! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 14: 0:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90FC37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06C943E4A for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:00:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGM0Ax3075423 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:00:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBGM0Axd075422; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:00:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:00:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212162200.gBGM0Axd075422@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Rich Morin Subject: Re: docs/46295: please add information to Nvi recovery email Reply-To: Rich Morin Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/46295; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Rich Morin To: Ceri Davies Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46295: please add information to Nvi recovery email Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:48:25 -0800 At 9:05 PM +0000 12/16/02, Ceri Davies wrote: >I'm not sure of the motivation here. All the user really needs to know >is how to get their file back, which they've been told. This presumes that the user actually wants to jump through the hoops of doing a "vi -r". In many cases, as when a file was merely being view'ed, the user may just want to get rid of the recovery file. By letting them know where these files are located, the message could make this easier. -r -- email: rdm@cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm - my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 14:46:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FC037B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B76243ED1 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:46:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id gBGMkaNN017320 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:46:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:47:03 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD doc team Subject: Re: docs/31640: Avoiding uppercase program names in manpages Message-Id: <20021216174703.6de66820.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200212162245.gBGMjnRQ091181@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200212162245.gBGMjnRQ091181@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:45:49 -0800 (PST) Tom Rhodes wrote: > Synopsis: Avoiding uppercase program names in manpages > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: trhodes > State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 16 14:44:41 PST 2002 > State-Changed-Why: > charnier, ru, keramida, ceri, and many others fix this whenever we > come across it. For the most part, and to my knowledge it is 90% if > not 100% complete. > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31640 > Hope noone really cares that I closed this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 15:17: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC38037B401; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E878243E4A; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:17:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18O4Tt-0001HK-00; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:17:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:17:01 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Tom Rhodes Cc: FreeBSD doc team Subject: Re: docs/31640: Avoiding uppercase program names in manpages Message-ID: <20021216231701.GA3572@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , FreeBSD doc team References: <200212162245.gBGMjnRQ091181@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021216174703.6de66820.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021216174703.6de66820.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 05:47:03PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:45:49 -0800 (PST) > Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > Synopsis: Avoiding uppercase program names in manpages > > > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > > State-Changed-By: trhodes > > State-Changed-When: Mon Dec 16 14:44:41 PST 2002 > > State-Changed-Why: > > charnier, ru, keramida, ceri, and many others fix this whenever we > > come across it. For the most part, and to my knowledge it is 90% if > > not 100% complete. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31640 > > Hope noone really cares that I closed this. Not me. Ceri -- My fist seeks your doom! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 15:48:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BCB37B401; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [63.93.4.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11AB43EC2; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:48:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost.wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBGNmjuF052040; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:48:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id gBGNmjeC052037; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:48:45 -0700 (MST)?g (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:48:44 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: issues with fdp-primer book In-Reply-To: <7lof7lhirh.f7l@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16 Dec 2002, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > > > + PostScript or PDF output require that TeX is installed. > > > > > > ...require that TeX be installed. > > > > I'm not sure about this one. Is it wrong with "is"? I need to reread > > my articles on English grammar it seems :) > > I suspect that using "is" is a common practice in writing and acceptable > to most readers, at least by all but the few who know grammar well, and > I suspect it is more common than "be" in spoken English. I happen to > agree that "be" sounds more proper, but I've studied grammar little. The FDP primer warns about unnecessary repetition: don't say "the ls command", say "ls". So... why not just make this: "PostScript and PDF output require TeX." -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 16: 8: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110B237B404; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:08:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp04.iprimus.com.au (smtp04.iprimus.com.au [210.50.76.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD0143ED4; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:08:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@robbins.dropbear.id.au) Received: from smtp01.iprimus.net.au (210.50.30.70) by smtp04.iprimus.com.au (6.7.010) id 3DF583C3000D6A69; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:08:01 +1100 Received: from dilbert.robbins.dropbear.id.au ([210.50.37.206]) by smtp01.iprimus.net.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:07:59 +1100 Received: from dilbert.robbins.dropbear.id.au (c6nf50lalibong8l@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.robbins.dropbear.id.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBH08ACv032192; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:08:11 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from tim@dilbert.robbins.dropbear.id.au) Received: (from tim@localhost) by dilbert.robbins.dropbear.id.au (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBH088bW032191; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:08:08 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from tim) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:08:08 +1100 From: Tim Robbins To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Marco Molteni , docs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: an easy PR to close Message-ID: <20021217110808.A31798@dilbert.robbins.dropbear.id.au> References: <20021216165420.53677.qmail@cobweb.example.org> <20021216120522.660d8a89.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021216120522.660d8a89.trhodes@FreeBSD.org>; from trhodes@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:05:22PM -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2002 00:08:00.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C38E070:01C2A560] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:05:22PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:54:20 +0100 > Marco Molteni wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > please have a look at the following PR and close it: > > > > [PATCH] to sh(1) manual page: trapsasync > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=docs/45820 > > > > thanks > > marco > > Tim (tjr) has been doing alot of work with sh(1) and I want him > to look this over before I commit. What I am worried about is a > standards issue, perhaps over time we will be changing trapsasync > to asynctraps? > > Tim, can I commit this? I'm not aware of any standards issues about "asynctraps"; I can't find any other shells with this option except FreeBSD's. So this patch is probably fine to commit. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 16:16: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B8837B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [63.93.4.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04BB43E4A for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:16:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost.wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBH0G1uF052088 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:16:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id gBH0G1Rp052085 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:16:01 -0700 (MST)?g (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:16:01 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: mediaobject "keep-together"? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've found a lot of queries about trying to keep portions of DocBook documents together, particularly in printed form, but not many answers. For example, is there a way to keep an and together, so that the caption doesn't end up on the next page alone? -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 19:48:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429E337B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF8743ED8 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:48:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id gBH3mT2n012116 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mac.com ([216.78.179.36]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H78VWS00.SVL for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:48:28 -0800 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:48:28 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Error in example for Kernel module.... From: David Leimbach To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <670D0148-1172-11D7-A572-0003937E39E0@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think so anyway... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ x10109.html In : static int echo_loader(struct module *m, int what, void *arg) { int err = 0; switch (what) { case MOD_LOAD: /* kldload */ sdev = make_dev(&echo_cdevsw, 0, UID_ROOT, GID_WHEEL, 0600, "echo"); /* kmalloc memory for use by this driver */ /* malloc(256,M_ECHOBUF,M_WAITOK); */ MALLOC(echomsg, t_echo *, sizeof(t_echo), M_ECHOBUF, M_WAITOK); printf("Echo device loaded.\n"); break; Should probably be: uprintf("Echo device loaded\n"); This is probably minor... Dave Leimbach To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Dec 16 20:24:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1460937B4D3; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from vectors.cx (manifold.vectors.cx [64.163.147.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B28A43EA9; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:24:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: from vectors.cx (ab97535e8ced0bb36e6c214fc6e6aac9@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vectors.cx (8.12.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id gBH4QGfC019611; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:26:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: (from monkey@localhost) by vectors.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBH4QGEO019607; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:26:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from monkey) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:26:16 -0800 From: Adam Weinberger To: Warren Block Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , Giorgos Keramidas , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: issues with fdp-primer book Message-ID: <20021217042616.GU311@vectors.cx> References: <7lof7lhirh.f7l@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: Vim 6.1 http://www.vim.org X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5 http://www.mutt.org X-PGP-Key: http://www.vectors.cx/pgp.key.txt X-URL: http://www.vectors.cx http://www.crackula.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> (12.16.2002 @ 1548 PST): Warren Block said, in 0.9K: << > The FDP primer warns about unnecessary repetition: don't say "the ls > command", say "ls". So... why not just make this: > > "PostScript and PDF output require TeX." >> end of "Re: issues with fdp-primer book" from Warren Block << Right. That's what I said awhile ago. There is so much passive voice in the fbsd documentation... passive voices and extraneous clauses. Make the verb active. Eliminate the clause. "TeX is required to make PDF and PostScript output work" is a lot more confusing, and wordy, than "PostScript and PDF output require TeX." # Adam - -- Adam Weinberger vectors.cx >> adam@vectors.cx FreeBSD.org << adamw@FreeBSD.ORG Bayer Berkeley >> adam.weinberger.b@bayer.com #vim:set ts=8: 8-char tabs prevent tooth decay. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9/qdoo8KM2ULHQ/0RAneKAJ9Aaaiqgrabi3ZEbJNfiGCpB0DwgQCZAVQT C26AqMLrrEnVrDVvQZP4HCE= =4SLu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 17 0:26: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F3237B401; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:26:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from access.inet.co.th (access.inet.co.th [203.151.127.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449FF43EC2; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:26:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from radwaste.thai-aec.org (TruPPPv92-227-133.inet.co.th [203.151.227.133]) by access.inet.co.th (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29829; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:25:51 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (firak.thai-aec.org. [192.168.1.55]) by radwaste.thai-aec.org (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBH8Vhfh003375; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:31:44 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: from firak.thai-aec.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBH8UnuT022631; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:30:49 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) Received: (from pirat@localhost) by firak.thai-aec.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBH8USde022629; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:30:28 +0700 (ICT) X-Authentication-Warning: firak.thai-aec.org: pirat set sender to pirat@access.inet.co.th using -f Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:30:28 +0700 From: pirat To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: peps: ... is not a valid EPS file error in making docs. Message-ID: <20021217083028.GA22570@thai-aec.org> Mail-Followup-To: pirat , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD firak.thai-aec.org 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=tis-620 Content-Disposition: inline hi sirs, apologize me for disturbing and for posting to two lists since the issue seems to involve two lists. am used to post about this kind of problem many days ago and can overcome bey the second run which i do not want to give up. now when i make documents at my other machine, it comes again peps: is not a valid EPS file so i try doing the same, blindfully make agian and again. and at the end i got all documents installed. i look at peps.c codes and know that peps expect "%!PS-Adobe" or so and parse(filename), failing on any of this will produce such an error. now that when i have a look at .eps file, it does not have such a string indeed even .ps file has it though. and .eps file is generated from ps2epsi. when i try it manually, i got an error "Unknown device: bit" i think, ps2epsi from ghostscript-gnu-7.05_3 need to be ... correct (sorry for the very poor english). my chaine , the recent one which face this funny error, is %uname -a FreeBSD bank.thai-aec.org 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #5: Sun Dec 15 21:57:02 ICT 2002 root@bank.thai-aec.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BANK i386 % i have attached script file during making at /usr/doc just for your interest. once again apologize me for disturbing the lists. with best regards, psr --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=tis-620 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=MakeDoc Script started on Sat Dec 14 14:43:38 2002 bank# make ===> en_US.ISO8859-1 ===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles ===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/../../../share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -D /usr/obj/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide -c /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -t sgml /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng groff -p -S -Wall -mtty-char -man branches.pic > branches.ps /usr/local/bin/ps2epsi /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/branches.ps /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/branches.eps Unknown device: bit /usr/local/bin/peps -p -r 100 -o branches.png `/bin/realpath branches.eps` peps: /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/branches.eps is not a valid EPS file. *** Error code 4 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc. bank# head /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/branches.eps save countdictstack mark newpath /showpage {} def /setpagedevice {pop} def %%EndProlog %%Page: 1 1 %%BeginDocument: /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/branches.ps /setpacking where{ pop currentpacking true setpacking }if /grops 120 dict dup begin bank# head /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/branches.ps %!PS-Adobe-3.0 %%Creator: groff version 1.17.2 %%CreationDate: Sat Dec 14 14:46:43 2002 %%DocumentNeededResources: font Times-Roman %%DocumentSuppliedResources: procset grops 1.17 2 %%Pages: 1 %%PageOrder: Ascend %%Orientation: Portrait %%EndComments %%BeginProlog bank# exit exit Script done on Sat Dec 14 14:48:04 2002 --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 17 9:33:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA1937B401 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail16.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8166443EB2 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:33:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 6999 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2002 17:33:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail16.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Dec 2002 17:33:38 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBHHXWUT012508; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:33:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <670D0148-1172-11D7-A572-0003937E39E0@mac.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:33:32 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: David Leimbach Subject: RE: Error in example for Kernel module.... Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Dec-2002 David Leimbach wrote: > I think so anyway... > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ > x10109.html > > In : > > static int > echo_loader(struct module *m, int what, void *arg) > { > int err = 0; > > switch (what) { > case MOD_LOAD: /* kldload */ > sdev = make_dev(&echo_cdevsw, > 0, > UID_ROOT, > GID_WHEEL, > 0600, > "echo"); > /* kmalloc memory for use by this driver */ > /* malloc(256,M_ECHOBUF,M_WAITOK); */ > MALLOC(echomsg, t_echo *, sizeof(t_echo), M_ECHOBUF, M_WAITOK); > printf("Echo device loaded.\n"); > break; > > Should probably be: > uprintf("Echo device loaded\n"); > > This is probably minor... 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 17 11: 2:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2E037B401 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from web21109.mail.yahoo.com (web21109.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D96A443EDA for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:02:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hitmaster2k@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20021217190228.33338.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.6] by web21109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:02:28 PST Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:02:28 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Error in example for Kernel module.... To: John Baldwin , David Leimbach Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- John Baldwin wrote: > > This is probably minor... > > You can use printf in the kernel directly. I think he was trying to say, that there are only two occurences of printf(), i.e. 'Echo device loaded/unloaded', so might as well convert them to uprintf() for consistency -- or the other way round. I like that former, but I dont have authority. :) Cheers. -- Hiten __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 17 11: 6: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0850F37B401; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C25943EA9; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:06:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <20021217190606003006j70me>; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:06:06 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBHJ5Z2J071452; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:05:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id gBHJ5UPO071447; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:05:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Apostrophe Usage References: <20021215213600.GA6049@submonkey.net> <20021215214245.GC6049@submonkey.net> <20021216145713.5821cc6d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 17 Dec 2002 11:05:29 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20021216145713.5821cc6d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Rhodes writes: > On 16 Dec 2002 11:47:52 -0800 > swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) wrote: > > > I worry that you asked the question wrongly. Does the "'s" belong? > > > > I think so, but these should be OK too: > > > > Include an abstract of the book contents here. > > Include an abstract of the book content here. > > Include an abstract of the book's content here. ... > If I'm not mistaken, doesn't an apostrophe (Tom's system) apply to > ownership. Therefor, the (book's content) would be correct. Yes, that's why I said "I think so, but these should be OK *too*". It should also be correct to refer to "book contents", where "book" is used as a simple adjective. The possessive form may sound more natural to us in this case, but it's just custom. In a similar case, we might rather use the opposite form, for example, preferring "peach pit" to "peach's pit". But both forms are allowed by our grammar. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 17 11:35:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00D237B401 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:35:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A41D43EC5 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jayed@jayed.com) Received: from jayed.com ([66.149.200.43]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ONUx-0001iU-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:35:23 -0500 Received: (qmail 20461 invoked by uid 1001); 17 Dec 2002 19:28:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:28:14 -0600 From: Jay To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Apostrophe Usage Message-ID: <20021217192814.GE12569@www.jayed.com> References: <20021215213600.GA6049@submonkey.net> <20021215214245.GC6049@submonkey.net> <20021216145713.5821cc6d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 11:05:29AM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Tom Rhodes writes: > > > On 16 Dec 2002 11:47:52 -0800 > > swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) wrote: > > > > > I worry that you asked the question wrongly. Does the "'s" belong? > > > > > > I think so, but these should be OK too: > > > > > > Include an abstract of the book contents here. > > > Include an abstract of the book content here. > > > Include an abstract of the book's content here. > ... > > If I'm not mistaken, doesn't an apostrophe (Tom's system) apply to > > ownership. Therefor, the (book's content) would be correct. > > Yes, that's why I said "I think so, but these should be OK *too*". > > It should also be correct to refer to "book contents", where "book" is > used as a simple adjective. The possessive form may sound more natural > to us in this case, but it's just custom. In a similar case, we might > rather use the opposite form, for example, preferring "peach pit" to > "peach's pit". But both forms are allowed by our grammar. While both forms are allowed by our grammar, the "'s" form is much more common -- and they are not semantically equivalent, though they can be interpreted the same. In phrases like the "peach's pit", the non-apostrophed word is the focus of the sentence. As in "I broke my tooth on the peach's pit". In that case the pit is the important part -- and not the peach. If you say "the book contents" then you are implying that the *book* is the focus of the sentence and not the contents. As in "the car tires went flat". You could say the "car's tires..." but "the car tires" is actually more correct. The "car's tires" is actually a slightly sloppy English construction. But that's the way the English is going. If you want to talk about the contents of a book, yet still indicate that the book is primary -- without using an apostrophe -- you would say "the contents of the book" and not "the book contents". If the contents are the primary focus, the you would say "the book's contents". Anway, in this particular case, you would say either "Include an abstract of the book's contents" or "Include an abstract of the comments of the book". (And the later has too many prepositional phrases). Saying "Include an abstract of the book contents" implies that the book is the important part of the sentence...while what is important in this context is the contents of the book. Clear as mud? Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 17 11:54:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E317A37B401; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-88.apple.com [17.250.248.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7EE43ED8; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:54:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from woappsx14.mac.com (woappsx14-en1 [10.13.10.114]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id gBHJsdBZ017744; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from woappsx14 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woappsx14.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gBHJsdD10440; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:54:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6291614.1040154879452.JavaMail.leimy2k@mac.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:54:39 -0800 (PST) From: David Leimbach To: John Baldwin Subject: RE: Error in example for Kernel module.... Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 11:33AM, John Baldwin wrote: > >On 17-Dec-2002 David Leimbach wrote: >> I think so anyway... >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ >> x10109.html >> >> In : >> >> static int >> echo_loader(struct module *m, int what, void *arg) >> { >> int err = 0; >> >> switch (what) { >> case MOD_LOAD: /* kldload */ >> sdev = make_dev(&echo_cdevsw, >> 0, >> UID_ROOT, >> GID_WHEEL, >> 0600, >> "echo"); >> /* kmalloc memory for use by this driver */ >> /* malloc(256,M_ECHOBUF,M_WAITOK); */ >> MALLOC(echomsg, t_echo *, sizeof(t_echo), M_ECHOBUF, M_WAITOK); >> printf("Echo device loaded.\n"); >> break; >> >> Should probably be: >> uprintf("Echo device loaded\n"); >> >> This is probably minor... > >You can use printf in the kernel directly. > Yes. I was just thinking that for consistency it might be good to stick to one style of output. Don't printf statements get written to logs in FBSD... Sorry I am such a newbie to FBSD kernel stuff... I think it was printk in linux that went to logs and printf in FreeBSD that went to the terminal. For example modules it might be good not to pollute the logs since we are not told to look at them in the example IIRC. Also... These aren't up to date for FreeBSD 5.0. Is this being changed as we speak or will that be in some other documentation elsewhere. The echo_read and echo_write should refer to threads not procs as the last parameter to the functions for FreeBSD 5.0. Dave >-- > >John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ >"Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 17 12: 0:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC4A37B404; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-89.apple.com [17.250.248.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267CC43ED1; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:00:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from woappsx14.mac.com (woappsx14-en1 [10.13.10.114]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.2/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id gBHK03xn003456; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from woappsx14 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woappsx14.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gBHK03D10634; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:00:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2802274.1040155203303.JavaMail.leimy2k@mac.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:00:03 -0800 (PST) From: David Leimbach To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Error in example for Kernel module.... Cc: John Baldwin , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 01:02PM, Hiten Pandya wrote: >--- John Baldwin wrote: >> > This is probably minor... >> >> You can use printf in the kernel directly. > >I think he was trying to say, that there are only two occurences of >printf(), i.e. 'Echo device loaded/unloaded', so might as well convert >them to uprintf() for consistency -- or the other way round. I like >that former, but I dont have authority. :) Sorry for my terseness. I am sure that caused confusion. The consistency is part of the comment. The other part has to do with the fact that uprintf displays information on the console. Since these are debugging messages for newbie kernel hackers like myself it seemed appropriate to give the user immediate feedback. Either that or use printf and redirect the user to the system logs which is where I think that output ends up. I made an earlier comment about these not being quite FBSD 5.0 compliant with the function protoypes for read/write since we now have thread *'s instead of proc *'s. Overall I am very impressed with the quality of the documentation the FreeBSD project has compared to other open sourced efforts. I am just trying to help :). Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 17 12:34: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D01637B401 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail15.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5DF43EB2 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:34:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 24373 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2002 20:34:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Dec 2002 20:34:11 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBHKY2UT013083; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:34:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2802274.1040155203303.JavaMail.leimy2k@mac.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:34:02 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: David Leimbach Subject: RE: Error in example for Kernel module.... Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Dec-2002 David Leimbach wrote: > > On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 01:02PM, Hiten Pandya wrote: > >>--- John Baldwin wrote: >>> > This is probably minor... >>> >>> You can use printf in the kernel directly. >> >>I think he was trying to say, that there are only two occurences of >>printf(), i.e. 'Echo device loaded/unloaded', so might as well convert >>them to uprintf() for consistency -- or the other way round. I like >>that former, but I dont have authority. :) > > Sorry for my terseness. I am sure that caused confusion. The consistency is part of the > comment. The other part has to do with the fact that uprintf displays information on the > console. Since these are debugging messages for newbie kernel hackers like myself > it seemed appropriate to give the user immediate feedback. > > Either that or use printf and redirect the user to the system logs which is where I think that > output ends up. printf() does output directly on the kernel console, so it will be seen directly. > I made an earlier comment about these not being quite FBSD 5.0 compliant with the function > protoypes for read/write since we now have thread *'s instead of proc *'s. Yes. To be perfectly compatible across 4.x and 5.x it should probably use d_thread_t for the last arg. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Dec 17 14:38:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B5637B401; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:38:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5FC43ED4; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:38:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b193.otenet.gr [212.205.244.201]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBHMbq1E021375; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:37:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBHMbjg9000855; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:37:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBHK8dI3007989; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:08:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:08:39 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Adam Weinberger Cc: Warren Block , "Gary W. Swearingen" , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues with fdp-primer book Message-ID: <20021217200839.GA829@gothmog.gr> References: <7lof7lhirh.f7l@localhost.localdomain> <20021217042616.GU311@vectors.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021217042616.GU311@vectors.cx> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-12-16 20:26, Adam Weinberger wrote: > >> (12.16.2002 @ 1548 PST): Warren Block said, in 0.9K: << > > The FDP primer warns about unnecessary repetition: don't say "the ls > > command", say "ls". So... why not just make this: > > > > "PostScript and PDF output require TeX." > > Right. That's what I said awhile ago. It's also the version that I like most. I'll make the change later tonight. Many thanks to everyone who helped! 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MSN ·Їєк http://www.msn.co.kr/love/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 18 15:40: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27D937B401 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FFE43EC5 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBINe2x3011487 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBINe2jM011486; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA28137B401; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:34:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from gioria.dyndns.org (AFontenayssB-104-1-1-242.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.58.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF56543EA9; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:34:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eagle@gioria.dyndns.org) Received: from bushmills.intra.thorm.net (bushmills.intra.thorm.net [192.168.0.3]) by gioria.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B3637485; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:43:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by bushmills.intra.thorm.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id EF6A2B3DF; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:31:53 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20021218233153.EF6A2B3DF@bushmills.intra.thorm.net> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:31:53 +0100 (CET) From: Sebastien Gioria Reply-To: Sebastien Gioria To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: alfred@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46366: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46366 >Category: docs >Synopsis: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Dec 18 15:40:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sebastien Gioria >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-RC i386 >Organization: FreeBSD.ORG >Environment: System: FreeBSD bushmills.intra.thorm.net 5.0-RC FreeBSD 5.0-RC #16: Mon Dec 9 18:34:49 CET 2002 gioria@FreeBSD.ORG@bushmills.intra.thorm.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/bushmills i386 >Description: The getosreldate(3) function is not documented in the manual pages >How-To-Repeat: do a man getosreldate >Fix: This is a roff file documenting the getosreldate function --- getosreldate.3 begins here --- .\" Copyright (c) 2002 .\" The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions .\" are met: .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. .\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the .\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. .\" 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software .\" must display the following acknowledgement: .\" This product includes software developed by the University of .\" California, Berkeley and its contributors. .\" 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors .\" may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software .\" without specific prior written permission. .\" .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND .\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE .\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE .\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL .\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS .\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) .\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT .\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" .Dd May 28, 2002 .Dt GETOSRELDATE 3 .Os .Sh NAME .Nm getosreldate .Nd get the value of __FreeBSD_Version .Sh LIBRARY .Lb libc .Sh SYNOPSIS .In osreldate.h .Ft int .Fn getosreldate void .Sh DESCRIPTION .Fn getosreldate return a 32-bit integer who determine the version of FreeBSD that a program was compiled on, and maybe running on (if 2.0 or better). Definitions of the values can be found on the porters handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/freebsd-versions.html .Sh HISTORY The .Fn getosreldate appeared in .Fx 2.0. --- getosreldate.3 ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 18 15:40:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFDE37B404 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BDE43EA9 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBINe1x3011474 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBINe1WH011473; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547D237B401; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:31:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from gioria.dyndns.org (AFontenayssB-104-1-1-242.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.58.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D12243EA9; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:31:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eagle@gioria.dyndns.org) Received: from bushmills.intra.thorm.net (bushmills.intra.thorm.net [192.168.0.3]) by gioria.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2068437485; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:40:53 +0100 (CET) Received: by bushmills.intra.thorm.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id EF6A2B3DF; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:31:53 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20021218233153.EF6A2B3DF@bushmills.intra.thorm.net> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:31:53 +0100 (CET) From: Sebastien Gioria Reply-To: Sebastien Gioria To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: alfred@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46365: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46365 >Category: docs >Synopsis: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Dec 18 15:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sebastien Gioria >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-RC i386 >Organization: FreeBSD.ORG >Environment: System: FreeBSD bushmills.intra.thorm.net 5.0-RC FreeBSD 5.0-RC #16: Mon Dec 9 18:34:49 CET 2002 gioria@FreeBSD.ORG@bushmills.intra.thorm.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/bushmills i386 >Description: The getosreldate(3) function is not documented in the manual pages >How-To-Repeat: do a man getosreldate >Fix: This is a roff file documenting the getosreldate function --- getosreldate.3 begins here --- .\" Copyright (c) 2002 .\" The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions .\" are met: .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. .\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the .\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. .\" 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software .\" must display the following acknowledgement: .\" This product includes software developed by the University of .\" California, Berkeley and its contributors. .\" 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors .\" may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software .\" without specific prior written permission. .\" .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND .\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE .\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE .\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL .\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS .\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) .\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT .\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" .Dd May 28, 2002 .Dt GETOSRELDATE 3 .Os .Sh NAME .Nm getosreldate .Nd get the value of __FreeBSD_Version .Sh LIBRARY .Lb libc .Sh SYNOPSIS .In osreldate.h .Ft int .Fn getosreldate void .Sh DESCRIPTION .Fn getosreldate return a 32-bit integer who determine the version of FreeBSD that a program was compiled on, and maybe running on (if 2.0 or better). Definitions of the values can be found on the porters handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/freebsd-versions.html .Sh HISTORY The .Fn getosreldate appeared in .Fx 2.0. --- getosreldate.3 ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 18 15:40:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A1F37B406 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A443D43ED4 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBINe2x3011500 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBINe2UU011499; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFBF37B401; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gioria.dyndns.org (AFontenayssB-104-1-1-242.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.58.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F4743EA9; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:34:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eagle@gioria.dyndns.org) Received: from bushmills.intra.thorm.net (bushmills.intra.thorm.net [192.168.0.3]) by gioria.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE400374B8; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:43:26 +0100 (CET) Received: by bushmills.intra.thorm.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id D0618B738; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:31:53 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20021218233153.D0618B738@bushmills.intra.thorm.net> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:31:53 +0100 (CET) From: Sebastien Gioria Reply-To: Sebastien Gioria To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: alfred@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46367: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46367 >Category: docs >Synopsis: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Dec 18 15:40:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sebastien Gioria >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-RC i386 >Organization: FreeBSD.ORG >Environment: System: FreeBSD bushmills.intra.thorm.net 5.0-RC FreeBSD 5.0-RC #16: Mon Dec 9 18:34:49 CET 2002 gioria@FreeBSD.ORG@bushmills.intra.thorm.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/bushmills i386 >Description: The getosreldate(3) function is not documented in the manual pages >How-To-Repeat: do a man getosreldate >Fix: This is a roff file documenting the getosreldate function --- getosreldate.3 begins here --- .\" Copyright (c) 2002 .\" The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions .\" are met: .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. .\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the .\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. .\" 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software .\" must display the following acknowledgement: .\" This product includes software developed by the University of .\" California, Berkeley and its contributors. .\" 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors .\" may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software .\" without specific prior written permission. .\" .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND .\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE .\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE .\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL .\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS .\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) .\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT .\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" .Dd May 28, 2002 .Dt GETOSRELDATE 3 .Os .Sh NAME .Nm getosreldate .Nd get the value of __FreeBSD_Version .Sh LIBRARY .Lb libc .Sh SYNOPSIS .In osreldate.h .Ft int .Fn getosreldate void .Sh DESCRIPTION .Fn getosreldate return a 32-bit integer who determine the version of FreeBSD that a program was compiled on, and maybe running on (if 2.0 or better). Definitions of the values can be found on the porters handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/freebsd-versions.html .Sh HISTORY The .Fn getosreldate appeared in .Fx 2.0. --- getosreldate.3 ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 18 15:43:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1CF37B401; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from gioria.dyndns.org (AFontenayssB-104-1-1-242.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.58.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994B943EDA; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:43:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eagle@gioria.dyndns.org) Received: from bushmills.intra.thorm.net (bushmills.intra.thorm.net [192.168.0.3]) by gioria.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DC437485; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:52:39 +0100 (CET) Received: by bushmills.intra.thorm.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 40DB3ADA2; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:43:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:43:40 +0100 From: Sebastien Gioria To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Sebastien Gioria , alfred@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/46365: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Message-ID: <20021218234339.GA837@bushmills.intra.thorm.net> Reply-To: Sebastien Gioria Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Sebastien Gioria , alfred@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021218233153.EF6A2B3DF@bushmills.intra.thorm.net> <200212182340.gBINe14E011466@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200212182340.gBINe14E011466@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Hostname: bushmills.intra.thorm.net X-Uptime: 12:42AM up 10 mins, 1 user, load averages: 1.41, 1.16, 0.65 X-FreeBSD-Release: FreeBSD-5.0-RC User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Oups..... did not include the good man page.... -- Sebastien Gioria(48.8147,2.3622) gioria@{FreeBSD,FreeBSD-FR}.ORG French FreeBSD User Group http://www.FreeBSD-FR.ORG FreeBSD committer http://www.FreeBSD.ORG *-> FreeBSD + RollerBlade + Scuba Diving; What need you more ? <-* --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="getosreldate.3" .\" Copyright (c) 2002 .\" The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions .\" are met: .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. .\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the .\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. .\" 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software .\" must display the following acknowledgement: .\" This product includes software developed by the University of .\" California, Berkeley and its contributors. .\" 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors .\" may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software .\" without specific prior written permission. .\" .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND .\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE .\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE .\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL .\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS .\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) .\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT .\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" .Dd May 28, 2002 .Dt GETOSRELDATE 3 .Os .Sh NAME .Nm getosreldate .Nd get the value of __FreeBSD_version .Sh LIBRARY .Lb libc .Sh SYNOPSIS .In osreldate.h .Ft int .Fn getosreldate void .Sh DESCRIPTION .Fn getosreldate return a 32-bit integer who determine the version of FreeBSD that a program was compiled on, and maybe running on (if 2.0 or better). Definitions of the values can be found on the porters handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/freebsd-versions.html .Sh EXAMPLES An example can be found in /usr/share/examples/FreeBSD_version .Sh HISTORY The .Fn getosreldate appeared in .Fx 2.0. --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 18 15:46:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1210137B401; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A4D43EC5; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:46:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gioria@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gioria@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBINkvx3013516; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:46:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gioria@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gioria@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBINkvAS013512; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:46:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:46:57 -0800 (PST) From: Sebastien Gioria Message-Id: <200212182346.gBINkvAS013512@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gioria@FreeBSD.ORG, gioria@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46367: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: gioria State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 18 15:46:02 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: duplicate PR docs/46365 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46367 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 18 15:47:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9261B37B401; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4036843ED8; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:47:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gioria@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gioria@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBINlWx3013577; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:47:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gioria@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gioria@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBINlWPq013573; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:47:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:47:32 -0800 (PST) From: Sebastien Gioria Message-Id: <200212182347.gBINlWPq013573@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gioria@FreeBSD.ORG, gioria@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46366: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: gioria State-Changed-When: Wed Dec 18 15:47:02 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: duplicate PR docs/46365 Some strange thing appear on my laptop.... http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46366 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 18 15:50: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408CE37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA90B43ED4 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:50:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBINo4x3013675 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:50:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBINo4EL013674; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:50:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:50:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212182350.gBINo4EL013674@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Sebastien Gioria Subject: Re: docs/46365: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Reply-To: Sebastien Gioria Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/46365; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sebastien Gioria To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Sebastien Gioria , alfred@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/46365: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:43:40 +0100 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Oups..... did not include the good man page.... -- Sebastien Gioria(48.8147,2.3622) gioria@{FreeBSD,FreeBSD-FR}.ORG French FreeBSD User Group http://www.FreeBSD-FR.ORG FreeBSD committer http://www.FreeBSD.ORG *-> FreeBSD + RollerBlade + Scuba Diving; What need you more ? <-* --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="getosreldate.3" .\" Copyright (c) 2002 .\" The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions .\" are met: .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. .\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the .\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. .\" 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software .\" must display the following acknowledgement: .\" This product includes software developed by the University of .\" California, Berkeley and its contributors. .\" 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors .\" may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software .\" without specific prior written permission. .\" .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND .\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE .\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE .\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL .\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS .\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) .\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT .\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" .Dd May 28, 2002 .Dt GETOSRELDATE 3 .Os .Sh NAME .Nm getosreldate .Nd get the value of __FreeBSD_version .Sh LIBRARY .Lb libc .Sh SYNOPSIS .In osreldate.h .Ft int .Fn getosreldate void .Sh DESCRIPTION .Fn getosreldate return a 32-bit integer who determine the version of FreeBSD that a program was compiled on, and maybe running on (if 2.0 or better). Definitions of the values can be found on the porters handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/freebsd-versions.html .Sh EXAMPLES An example can be found in /usr/share/examples/FreeBSD_version .Sh HISTORY The .Fn getosreldate appeared in .Fx 2.0. --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Dec 18 18:51:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6899C37B404 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from yahoo.com (1Cust211.tnt2.princess-anne.va.da.uu.net [67.201.70.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4902343EC2 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:51:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clay_barker@yahoo.com) From: "Clay Barker" To: Subject: Info you requested Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:43:18 -0500 Message-Id: <20021219025127.4902343EC2@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do you know why credit-counseling companies don't work? 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(v1.61) Reply-To: lera X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <39733534.20021219181844@ops.htc.ru> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: =?Windows-1251?B?RnJlZUJTRCByb290IO/g8O7r/A==?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Здравствуйте, freebsd-doc. Извинете, что пишу на ван адрес просто другово адреса на сайте не нашел. Окажите помощь в смене пароля на root (память плохая) -- С уважением, lera mailto:lera@ops.htc.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 7:20: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF98637B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:20:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D6D43ED8 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBJFK3x3098215 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBJFK3bY098214; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:20:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:20:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212191520.gBJFK3bY098214@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/46365: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/46365; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Sebastien Gioria Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org, alfred@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/46365: there is no documentation on getosreldate(3) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:16:53 +0200 On 2002-12-19 00:43, Sebastien Gioria wrote: > .Sh DESCRIPTION > .Fn getosreldate > .Sh HISTORY > The > .Fn getosreldate > appeared in > .Fx 2.0. You don't need to include the function name after .Fn here. These two are probably better if written as: The .Fn function... > at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/freebsd-versions.html > .Sh EXAMPLES > An example can be found in /usr/share/examples/FreeBSD_version An example can be found in .Pa /usr/share/examples/FreeBSD_version . Paths look nicer if marker up with .Pa in output formats that can use many fonts. I'm not sure if the URL can be marked up with .Pa too, but Ruslan will probably know better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 8:40:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21F037B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (office.sbnd.net [217.75.140.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3681E43EA9 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:40:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 8038 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Dec 2002 16:39:39 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:39:39 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: lera Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD root =?windows-1251?B?7+Dw7uv8?= Message-ID: <20021219163939.GB413@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: lera , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <39733534.20021219181844@ops.htc.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JP+T4n/bALQSJXh8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <39733534.20021219181844@ops.htc.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --JP+T4n/bALQSJXh8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 06:18:44PM +0300, lera wrote: > =C7=E4=F0=E0=E2=F1=F2=E2=F3=E9=F2=E5, freebsd-doc. >=20 > =C8=E7=E2=E8=ED=E5=F2=E5, =F7=F2=EE =EF=E8=F8=F3 =ED=E0 =E2=E0=ED =E0=E4= =F0=E5=F1 =EF=F0=EE=F1=F2=EE =E4=F0=F3=E3=EE=E2=EE =E0=E4=F0=E5=F1=E0 =ED= =E0 =F1=E0=E9=F2=E5 =ED=E5 > =ED=E0=F8=E5=EB. > =CE=EA=E0=E6=E8=F2=E5 =EF=EE=EC=EE=F9=FC =E2 =F1=EC=E5=ED=E5 =EF=E0=F0=EE= =EB=FF =ED=E0 root (=EF=E0=EC=FF=F2=FC =EF=EB=EE=F5=E0=FF) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT= -PW G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 This sentence is false. --JP+T4n/bALQSJXh8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+AfZL7Ri2jRYZRVMRAhHUAJ0c3H38QMgT6pGDrMHPJDV8rG+9CwCfZkKo v5qbnucGp5+NPeCvQ7ckkmI= =bq+b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JP+T4n/bALQSJXh8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 8:58:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0682437B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:58:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpproxy2.mitre.org (smtpproxy2.mitre.org [192.80.55.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED8743EDC for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:58:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbogert@mitre.org) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy2.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gBJGwCV11571 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from MAILHUB2 (mailhub2.mitre.org [129.83.221.18]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gBJGv8i01575 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mm110714-2k.mitre.org (128.29.25.41) by mailhub2.mitre.org with SMTP id 523151; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:57:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3E01FA5E.87B6FC46@mitre.org> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:57:02 -0500 From: "Jeffrey P.Bogert" Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en]C-20010724M (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gentlemen: I congradulate you on a very conplete and detailed Handbook. I am new to FreeBSD, but do have prior Linux and Solaris experience. I am in the process of getting FreeBSD up on one of my home computers. I noted the following two problems in Chapter 2 of the PDF version that I would like to bring to your attention: (I tried the html version first but the ScreenShots overwrite some of the text) 1) on page 34 in the fifth para it has the following : "Slice numbers follow the device name, prefixed with an s, starting at 1. So =93da0s1=94 is the first slice on the first SCSI drive. There can only be four physical slices on a disk, but you can have logical slices inside physical slices of the appropriate type. These extended slices are numbered starting at 5, so =93ad0s5=94 is the first extended slice on a disk. These devices are used by file systems that expect to occupy a slice." I believe that to keep the same drive and refer to an extended slice on that drive, you mean to have da0s5 in the last sentence instead of ad0s5. 2) on page 53 in the section "Netmask" the Class C block should be 192.168.0.0-192.168.0.255 instead of 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255 Very truly yours Jeff Bogert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 11:34:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4550D37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4D943ED4 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:34:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2002121919342100300lpr1je>; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:34:21 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBJJXb2J006904; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:33:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id gBJJXVJW006901; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:33:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: "Jeffrey P.Bogert" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook References: <3E01FA5E.87B6FC46@mitre.org> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 19 Dec 2002 11:33:31 -0800 In-Reply-To: <3E01FA5E.87B6FC46@mitre.org> Message-ID: Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Jeffrey P.Bogert" writes: > 2) on page 53 in the section "Netmask" > the Class C block should be 192.168.0.0-192.168.0.255 instead of > 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255 Many understand this better than I, but let me flag this for review. My copy says: Netmask The address block being used for this local area network is a Class C block (192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255). The default netmask is for a Class C network (255.255.255.0). All of which is correct, methinks. That 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 is the Class C block of addresses reserved for private use on a LAN such as is being configured here. In these sub-netting days, the term "block" needn't be limited to a "natural" Class C network of 256 hosts. Users need not use the default netmask, of course, and might want to use more (or less) of the reserved block than 192.168.0.0-192.168.0.255. Moreover, I've read that 192.168.0.* (and 192.168.255.*) shouldn't even be used, because they are not reliably handled. I'm not sure why; maybe many old routers were buggy; and maybe this is obsolete advice. I DO notice that my fairly recent CISCO-certified study guide uses 192.168.1.* as an example natural Class C network (as oppososed to 192.168.0.*). Maybe the number in "IPv4 address" should be changed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 11:40:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461FF37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF6F43EDA for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) id gBJJe6HW071608; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:40:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com (electron.centtech.com [204.177.173.173]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBJJe4NG071601; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:40:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <3E022075.4040703@centtech.com> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:39:33 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: "Jeffrey P.Bogert" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook References: <3E01FA5E.87B6FC46@mitre.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > "Jeffrey P.Bogert" writes: > > >>2) on page 53 in the section "Netmask" >>the Class C block should be 192.168.0.0-192.168.0.255 instead of >>192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255 > > > Many understand this better than I, but let me flag this for review. > > My copy says: > > Netmask > > The address block being used for this local area network is a Class > C block (192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255). The default netmask is for > a Class C network (255.255.255.0). > > All of which is correct, methinks. That 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 > is the Class C block of addresses reserved for private use on a LAN such > as is being configured here. In these sub-netting days, the term > "block" needn't be limited to a "natural" Class C network of 256 hosts. A class C has 256 IP's in it - the above is incorrect. 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 would be the size of a class B network. If 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 were a class c, then a class b would have to be 192.0.0.0 - 192.255.255.255, and a class a would be 0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255, which would be all IP's on the ipv4 internet, which it is not. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Beware the fury of a patient man. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 11:54:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E65E37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:54:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.50.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BA143ED8 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:54:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.1.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBJJsZQj049295; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:54:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBJJsajl000622; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:54:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBJJsZsx000618; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:54:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:54:35 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: "Jeffrey P.Bogert" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Message-ID: <20021219195435.GA540@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <3E01FA5E.87B6FC46@mitre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3E01FA5E.87B6FC46@mitre.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 11:57:02AM -0500, Jeffrey P.Bogert wrote: > Gentlemen: > I congradulate you on a very conplete and detailed Handbook. > I am new to FreeBSD, but do have prior Linux and Solaris experience. > I am in the process of getting FreeBSD up on one of my home computers. > > I noted the following two problems in Chapter 2 of the PDF version that > I would like to bring to your attention: > (I tried the html version first but the ScreenShots overwrite some of > the text) > > 1) on page 34 in the fifth para it has the following : > "Slice numbers follow the device name, prefixed with an s, starting at > 1. So “da0s1” is the first slice on the first SCSI > drive. There can only be four physical slices on a disk, but you can > have logical slices inside physical slices of the > appropriate type. These extended slices are numbered starting at 5, so > “ad0s5” is the first extended slice on a disk. > These devices are used by file systems that expect to occupy a slice." > > I believe that to keep the same drive and refer to an extended slice on > that drive, you mean to have da0s5 in the last sentence instead of > ad0s5. > To be consistent with the rest of the section I changed "is the first extended slice on a disk" with "is the first extended slice on the first IDE disk." > 2) on page 53 in the section "Netmask" > the Class C block should be 192.168.0.0-192.168.0.255 instead of > 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255 > According to RFCs (rfc1918 for example), the Handbook is correct: The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the following three blocks of the IP address space for private internets: 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix) 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix) 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix) We will refer to the first block as "24-bit block", the second as "20-bit block", and to the third as "16-bit" block. Note that (in pre-CIDR notation) the first block is nothing but a single class A network number, while the second block is a set of 16 contiguous class B network numbers, and third block is a set of 256 contiguous class C network numbers. The Handbook says "Class C block" not "Class C network", so it's Ok. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 12:10:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C9E37B401; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492B843E4A; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:10:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id gBJKAsNN044361; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:10:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:11:21 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Message-Id: <20021219151121.20e5803e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20021219195435.GA540@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <3E01FA5E.87B6FC46@mitre.org> <20021219195435.GA540@nosferatu.blackend.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:54:35 +0100 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > According to RFCs (rfc1918 for example), the Handbook is correct: > > The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the > following three blocks of the IP address space for private > internets: > > 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix) > 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix) > 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix) > > We will refer to the first block as "24-bit block", the second as > "20-bit block", and to the third as "16-bit" block. Note that (in > pre-CIDR notation) the first block is nothing but a single class A > network number, while the second block is a set of 16 contiguous > class B network numbers, and third block is a set of 256 contiguous > class C network numbers. > > The Handbook says "Class C block" not "Class C network", so it's Ok. > > Marc > For 10 daemon points, can anyone remember what CIDR is (and stands for) without looking at any RFC's or books? -- Tom Rhodes Who remembers an argument about CIDR several years ago where he quoted the RFC's to prove his point... What number he never remembers ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 12:19: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800ED37B401; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:18:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.reppep.com (www.reppep.com [66.92.104.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CF343ED8; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:18:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pepper@reppep.com) Received: from [129.85.219.160] (salt.rockefeller.edu [129.85.219.160]) by www.reppep.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0BF10033; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:18:55 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: pepper@mail.reppep.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021219151121.20e5803e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> References: <3E01FA5E.87B6FC46@mitre.org> <20021219195435.GA540@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20021219151121.20e5803e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:20:45 -0500 To: Tom Rhodes From: Chris Pepper Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Cc: Marc Fonvieille , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 3:11 PM -0500 2002/12/19, Tom Rhodes wrote: >On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:54:35 +0100 >Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >> According to RFCs (rfc1918 for example), the Handbook is correct: >> >> The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the >> following three blocks of the IP address space for private >> internets: >> >> 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix) >> 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix) >> 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix) >> >> We will refer to the first block as "24-bit block", the second as >> "20-bit block", and to the third as "16-bit" block. Note that (in >> pre-CIDR notation) the first block is nothing but a single class A >> network number, while the second block is a set of 16 contiguous >> class B network numbers, and third block is a set of 256 contiguous >> class C network numbers. >> >> The Handbook says "Class C block" not "Class C network", so it's Ok. >> >> Marc >> > >For 10 daemon points, can anyone remember what CIDR is (and stands >for) without looking at any RFC's or books? Classless Internet Domain Routing, IIRC, and I aren't even at net admin! -- Chris Pepper: Rockefeller University: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 12:21: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400D037B404 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from skyweb.ca (smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com [216.152.192.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C4343EB2 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:20:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjohnston@skyweb.ca) Received: from mjohnston ([209.5.243.50]) by smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:20:52 -0800 From: "Mark Johnston" To: Subject: RE: FreeBSD Handbook Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:25:20 -0600 Message-ID: <004201c2a79c$c0b1f4e0$690fa8c0@MJOHNSTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20021219195435.GA540@nosferatu.blackend.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc Fonvielle wrote: > > 2) on page 53 in the section "Netmask" > > the Class C block should be 192.168.0.0-192.168.0.255 instead of > > 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255 > > > > According to RFCs (rfc1918 for example), the Handbook is correct: > > The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the > following three blocks of the IP address space for private > internets: > > 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix) > 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix) > 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix) > > We will refer to the first block as "24-bit block", the second as > "20-bit block", and to the third as "16-bit" block. Note that (in > pre-CIDR notation) the first block is nothing but a single class A > network number, while the second block is a set of 16 contiguous > class B network numbers, and third block is a set of 256 contiguous > class C network numbers. The RFC1918 comment is accurate, but the paragraph is really explaining the Netmask field, so RFC1918 private networking is, IMO, unneeded complication. My suggestion would be to cut that and offer a more detailed explanation of how the netmask field is filled in; mentioning that it is often called a "subnet mask" would help new-to-Unix users. I would change the following text: The address block being used for this local area network is a Class C block (192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255). The default netmask is for a Class C network (255.255.255.0). to read something like: The subnet mask of the network. In this example, 255.255.255.0 has been automatically entered, since the IP address is a Class C address (i.e. in the range 192.0.0.0 - 223.255.255.255.) And Tom, isn't it "classless internet domain routing" - the wondrous upgrade that brought us /nn notation and non-8-bit boundaries? I'm going to check the book as soon as I've sent this mail.. :) Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 12:32:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D3037B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:32:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288BC43ED1 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:32:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id gBJKWhNN044489; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:32:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:33:10 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Mark Johnston" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Message-Id: <20021219153310.7cd9f663.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <004201c2a79c$c0b1f4e0$690fa8c0@MJOHNSTON> References: <20021219195435.GA540@nosferatu.blackend.org> <004201c2a79c$c0b1f4e0$690fa8c0@MJOHNSTON> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:25:20 -0600 "Mark Johnston" wrote: > > And Tom, isn't it "classless internet domain routing" - the wondrous > upgrade that brought us /nn notation and non-8-bit boundaries? I'm > going to check the book as soon as I've sent this mail.. :) > > Mark Ok guys, so far every responce has been correct, perhaps I should rethink the questions I ask! You call all STOP sending me emails about what it is now, K, thanx ;) On another note, now that I see how many are subscribed to this list, I have a `task list' which needs a few projects done... Any task takers? -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 12:43:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6E637B401; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:43:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from skyweb.ca (smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com [216.152.192.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF4243EDC; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:43:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjohnston@skyweb.ca) Received: from mjohnston ([209.5.243.50]) by smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:43:09 -0800 From: "Mark Johnston" To: "'Tom Rhodes'" Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD Handbook Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:47:37 -0600 Message-ID: <004401c2a79f$ddb63620$690fa8c0@MJOHNSTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20021219153310.7cd9f663.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > > And Tom, isn't it "classless internet domain routing" - the wondrous > > upgrade that brought us /nn notation and non-8-bit boundaries? I'm > > going to check the book as soon as I've sent this mail.. :) > > > > Mark > > Ok guys, so far every responce has been correct, perhaps I should > rethink the questions I ask! You call all STOP sending me emails > about what it is now, K, thanx ;) > > On another note, now that I see how many are subscribed to this > list, I have a `task list' which needs a few projects done... > > Any task takers? As a matter of fact, it's "Classless Inter-Domain Routing", according to RFC 1519 and Cisco's handy Internetworking Technologies Handbook 3e. No "Internet" in there at all. I hang my head in shame. As for the tasks, perhaps a list of them could live on the web somewhere, preferably broken up into bite-size chunks. I'd be happy to grab the list and try to pick away at it during idle times or Powerpoint presentations. :) Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 12:46:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BA337B401; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E039743EA9; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:46:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18P7Yo-0001xi-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:46:26 +0000 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:46:26 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: "Jeffrey P.Bogert" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Message-ID: <20021219204626.GB7370@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Marc Fonvieille , "Jeffrey P.Bogert" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <3E01FA5E.87B6FC46@mitre.org> <20021219195435.GA540@nosferatu.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021219195435.GA540@nosferatu.blackend.org> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 08:54:35PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 11:57:02AM -0500, Jeffrey P.Bogert wrote: > > > 2) on page 53 in the section "Netmask" > > the Class C block should be 192.168.0.0-192.168.0.255 instead of > > 192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255 > > > > According to RFCs (rfc1918 for example), the Handbook is correct: > > The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the > following three blocks of the IP address space for private internets: > > 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix) > 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix) > 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix) > > We will refer to the first block as "24-bit block", the second as > "20-bit block", and to the third as "16-bit" block. Note that (in > pre-CIDR notation) the first block is nothing but a single class A > network number, while the second block is a set of 16 contiguous > class B network numbers, and third block is a set of 256 contiguous > class C network numbers. > > The Handbook says "Class C block" not "Class C network", so it's Ok. The quoted text neither agrees nor disagrees with your statement, though. It might be a "block of class Cs", but it's definitely not a "class C block". Class notation is deprecated, and people would do well to avoid it. 192.168/16 is just that, "a /16". Ceri -- The beards of the gold have brought your death! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 12:51:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0331137B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5243B43EC2 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:51:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id gBJKpVNN044592; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:51:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:51:57 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Mark Johnston" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Message-Id: <20021219155157.4bb34d77.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <004401c2a79f$ddb63620$690fa8c0@MJOHNSTON> References: <20021219153310.7cd9f663.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <004401c2a79f$ddb63620$690fa8c0@MJOHNSTON> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:47:37 -0600 "Mark Johnston" wrote: > Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > > > > And Tom, isn't it "classless internet domain routing" - the > > > wondrous upgrade that brought us /nn notation and non-8-bit > > > boundaries? I'm going to check the book as soon as I've sent this > > > mail.. :) > > > > > > Mark > > > > Ok guys, so far every responce has been correct, perhaps I should > > rethink the questions I ask! You call all STOP sending me emails > > about what it is now, K, thanx ;) > > > > On another note, now that I see how many are subscribed to this > > list, I have a `task list' which needs a few projects done... > > > > Any task takers? > > As a matter of fact, it's "Classless Inter-Domain Routing", according > to RFC 1519 and Cisco's handy Internetworking Technologies Handbook > 3e. No"Internet" in there at all. I hang my head in shame. > > As for the tasks, perhaps a list of them could live on the web > somewhere, preferably broken up into bite-size chunks. I'd be happy > to grab the list and try to pick away at it during idle times or > Powerpoint presentations. :) > > Mark > Perhaps *I* should read a little better hehe. Anyways, enough of this `fun & games' stuff. Work needs done... ! List of tasks, hmmm... Let me just close this PR real quick ... Now, see all those lovely PRs assigned to -doc? Would be really helpful if we got some patches for them. We try, but cannot do it all. After enough patches, you'll be awarded a free FreeBSD.org email account, committer status, and a huge pile of work! What more could you ask for huh? -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 13: 0:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E355F37B401; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:00:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DCE43EC5; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:00:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) id gBJL0Iik076693; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:00:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com (electron.centtech.com [204.177.173.173]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBJL0GNG076686; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:00:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <3E023341.40601@centtech.com> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:59:45 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Mark Johnston , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook References: <20021219153310.7cd9f663.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <004401c2a79f$ddb63620$690fa8c0@MJOHNSTON> <20021219155157.4bb34d77.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Rhodes wrote: [..snip..] > all. After enough patches, you'll be awarded a free FreeBSD.org > email account, committer status, and a huge pile of work! What > more could you ask for huh? Promises, promises.. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Beware the fury of a patient man. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 13: 1:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B451C37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:01:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.50.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE5243ED1 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.1.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBJL1DQj049711; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:01:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBJL1Fjl000908; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:01:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBJL1Ffi000907; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:01:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:01:15 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Ceri Davies Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Message-ID: <20021219210115.GC540@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <3E01FA5E.87B6FC46@mitre.org> <20021219195435.GA540@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20021219204626.GB7370@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021219204626.GB7370@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 08:46:26PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > > According to RFCs (rfc1918 for example), the Handbook is correct: > > > > The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the > > following three blocks of the IP address space for private internets: > > > > 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix) > > 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix) > > 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix) > > > > We will refer to the first block as "24-bit block", the second as > > "20-bit block", and to the third as "16-bit" block. Note that (in > > pre-CIDR notation) the first block is nothing but a single class A > > network number, while the second block is a set of 16 contiguous > > class B network numbers, and third block is a set of 256 contiguous > > class C network numbers. > > > > The Handbook says "Class C block" not "Class C network", so it's Ok. > > The quoted text neither agrees nor disagrees with your statement, though. > It might be a "block of class Cs", but it's definitely not a "class C block". Well, for me it's the same meaning, but I will put that on the "distorsion" coming from the translation between english and my native tongue. So, I let someone else fixing that part. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 13: 9:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4877237B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E1D43EA9 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:09:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id gBJL9QNN044701; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:09:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:09:53 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Eric Anderson Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook Message-Id: <20021219160953.3e630960.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <3E023341.40601@centtech.com> References: <20021219153310.7cd9f663.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <004401c2a79f$ddb63620$690fa8c0@MJOHNSTON> <20021219155157.4bb34d77.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <3E023341.40601@centtech.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:59:45 -0600 Eric Anderson wrote: > Tom Rhodes wrote: > [..snip..] > > all. After enough patches, you'll be awarded a free FreeBSD.org > > email account, committer status, and a huge pile of work! What > > more could you ask for huh? > > Promises, promises.. > Beware the future. Actually, I spent several months submitting patches to get my commit bit... Sometimes I think of giving it back :) -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 15:20: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC1637B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:20:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A03343EE6 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBJNK2x3094667 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBJNK2U4094666; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D53137B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from fafoe.dyndns.org (chello212186121237.14.vie.surfer.at [212.186.121.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A299443EDA for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:13:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stefan@fafoe.dyndns.org) Received: from frog.fafoe (frog.fafoe [192.168.2.101]) by fafoe.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34473FC6; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:13:16 +0100 (CET) Received: by frog.fafoe (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3F4C87D4; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:13:16 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20021219231316.3F4C87D4@frog.fafoe> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:13:16 +0100 (CET) From: Stefan Farfeleder Reply-To: Stefan Farfeleder To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: stefan@fafoe.dyndns.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/46383: [patch] devd(8) refers to nonexistent devctl(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 46383 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] devd(8) refers to nonexistent devctl(4) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Dec 19 15:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stefan Farfeleder >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-RC i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD frog.fafoe 5.0-RC FreeBSD 5.0-RC #7: Sat Dec 14 02:09:00 CET 2002 freebsd@frog.fafoe:/freebsd/current/obj/freebsd/current/src/sys/FROG i386 >Description: Quoted from devd(8): #SEE ALSO # devctl(4), devd.conf(5) but there's no devctl(4). >How-To-Repeat: $ man devd >Fix: A better fix would be writing devctl(4) of course :) --- devd.8.diff begins here --- *** devd.8.orig Thu Dec 19 23:57:06 2002 --- devd.8 Thu Dec 19 23:57:55 2002 *************** *** 96,102 **** system without modifying the user's other config files. .Sh SEE ALSO - .Xr devctl 4 , .Xr devd.conf 5 .Sh AUTHORS .An M. Warner Losh --- 96,101 ---- --- devd.8.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 15:24: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4408037B407; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC16243EDC; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBJNO3x3096585; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBJNO3OE096581; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200212192324.gBJNO3OE096581@freefall.freebsd.org> To: yuko@veltec.co.jp, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/41703: tcpdump manual mistake, with a draft amendment Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: tcpdump manual mistake, with a draft amendment State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 19 15:23:34 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Feedback timeout. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=41703 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 15:27:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9547C37B405; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B23043EE8; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:27:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBJNRJx3096722; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:27:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBJNRDBP096718; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:27:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:27:13 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200212192327.gBJNRDBP096718@freefall.freebsd.org> To: erik@smluc.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/41181: Poor grammar in the dialog manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Poor grammar in the dialog manpage State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 19 15:26:55 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Feedback timeout. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=41181 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 16:56: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D534F37B401; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7414B43EDA; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:56:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBK0u4x3021139; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:56:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBK0u3dt021131; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:56:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:56:03 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200212200056.gBK0u3dt021131@freefall.freebsd.org> To: drs@rucus.ru.ac.za, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/41643: New FAQ entry explaining UDMA ICRC errors Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: New FAQ entry explaining UDMA ICRC errors State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 19 16:55:47 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed! Thanks for the submission! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=41643 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 17: 2:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF8237B401; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196EA43ED8; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBK12Px3023156; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:02:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBK12PUK023152; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:02:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:02:25 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200212200102.gBK12PUK023152@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43357: PATCH: fix error in reallocf(3) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: PATCH: fix error in reallocf(3) manpage State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 19 17:01:55 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Patched in current! Thanks for the submission! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Dec 19 17:01:55 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Patched in current! Thanks for the submission! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43357 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 17:18: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E743737B401; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F41743EDA; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:18:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBK1I6x3029020; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:18:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBK1I6xO029016; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:18:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:18:06 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200212200118.gBK1I6xO029016@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swear@attbi.com, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43756: chpass(1) manual unclear about alternate name behavior Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: chpass(1) manual unclear about alternate name behavior State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 19 17:17:34 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Patched in current and I'll MFC soon. Thanks for the submission! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Dec 19 17:17:34 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Patched in current and I'll MFC soon. Thanks for the submission! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43756 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 20:36:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BA937B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [63.93.4.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BB743EF1 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:36:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost.wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBK4aJuF061658 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:36:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id gBK4aJYJ061655 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:36:19 -0700 (MST)?g (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:36:19 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: FDP Future And XSL Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Based on some of my web searching, it looks like XSL will be a much bigger player in the future than DSSSL. Certainly it seems to be much more active right now. Are the current DSSSL style sheets going to be around a long time, or is XSL in the works? (Is it worth my time to get the new XSL-FO book from OReilly if I want to stay compatible with FDP?) Incidentally, there's an article on the Mandrake web site about how they solved many problems of their DocBook rendering which may (or may not) be of interest: http://linux-mandrake.com/en/doc/project/#layout -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 20:43:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C3937B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp3.cyquator.com (smtp3.cyquator.com [202.46.193.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2032243EDE for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:43:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jagjit.phull@cyquator.com) Received: (qmail 2907 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2002 04:41:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Matrix.cyquator.com) ([202.46.193.182]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp3.cyquator.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Dec 2002 04:41:45 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: neome Reply-To: jagjit.phull@cyquator.com To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:15:40 +0530 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200212201015.40075.jagjit.phull@cyquator.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 20:44: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8027D37B405 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:44:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp3.cyquator.com (smtp3.cyquator.com [202.46.193.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EECC43EE5 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:44:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jagjit.phull@cyquator.com) Received: (qmail 2964 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2002 04:42:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Matrix.cyquator.com) ([202.46.193.182]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp3.cyquator.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Dec 2002 04:42:29 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: neome Reply-To: jagjit.phull@cyquator.com To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:16:24 +0530 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200212201016.24122.jagjit.phull@cyquator.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 22:27:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D755D37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DC443EDA for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:27:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from moble.pittgoth.com ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id gBK6R9NN047809; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:27:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:27:36 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: jagjit.phull@cyquator.com Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Message-Id: <20021220012736.46072ee6.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200212201016.24122.jagjit.phull@cyquator.com> References: <200212201016.24122.jagjit.phull@cyquator.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:16:24 +0530 neome wrote: > subscribe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > Please send mail to: majordomo@FreeBSD.org with subscribe in the body of the email to join. Thanks for taking an interest in FreeBSD-doc -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 23:38:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BB637B401; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AF943EDE; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:38:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (tjr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBK7cLNS084639; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:38:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjr@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from tjr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBK7cKBc084635; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:38:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:38:20 -0800 (PST) From: "Tim J. Robbins" Message-Id: <200212200738.gBK7cKBc084635@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eugen@grosbein.pp.ru, tjr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43854: undocumented possibiliny of non-zero errno *printf(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: undocumented possibiliny of non-zero errno *printf(3) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: tjr State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 19 23:36:54 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Duplicate of docs/39257, which I am about to fix. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=docs/39257 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43854 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Dec 19 23:40:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C429237B401; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:40:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697DB43EEA; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:40:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (tjr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBK7evNS086373; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:40:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjr@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from tjr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBK7evKw086369; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:40:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:40:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Tim J. 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Thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43864 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 20 10: 6:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC7537B401; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FB343EDE; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:06:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBKI6sNS066168; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:06:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBKI6qjr066164; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:06:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:06:52 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200212201806.gBKI6qjr066164@freefall.freebsd.org> To: yonatan@xpert.com, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/34577: Some man pages still advise using "conflicts" [patch] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Some man pages still advise using "conflicts" [patch] State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Fri Dec 20 10:06:26 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Manually patched and fixed in both current && stable. Thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34577 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 20 12:23: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948DA37B401; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:23:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2197643ED8; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:23:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with ESMTP id <20021220202259051006iea8e>; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:22:59 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBKKMbk7001438; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:22:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id gBKKMWoL001435; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:22:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Handbook References: <3E01FA5E.87B6FC46@mitre.org> <20021219195435.GA540@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20021219204626.GB7370@submonkey.net> <20021219210115.GC540@nosferatu.blackend.org> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 20 Dec 2002 12:22:32 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20021219210115.GC540@nosferatu.blackend.org> Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc Fonvieille writes: > On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 08:46:26PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: ... > > It might be a "block of class Cs", but it's definitely not a "class C block". > > Well, for me it's the same meaning, but I will put that on the > "distorsion" coming from the translation between english and my native > tongue. So, I let someone else fixing that part. Your English didn't fail you; people are just making different assumptions about the jargon being used in that part of the Handbook. Some see the word "class" and assume that classic "classful addressing" jargon is being used so that one might expect "Class C block" to be interpreted as meaning "Class C network" which should mean 256 addresses. Others assume that sub-netting is so common that that should be the default jargon wherein networks and blocks can have new sizes and so they need to be specified more explicitly (as it was in the handbook, btw -- but specified bigger than a classic network). In the new jargon, the old jargon can be referred to by prefixing it with "natural" or "classic". The new jargon continues the use of "Class X", but mainly to refer to the value of the upper few bits of the addresses (eg, A=0, B=10, C=110, etc.), and not to network sizes. So "block of class Cs" and "class C block" have the same meaning, except maybe in the jargon of classic classful addressing which some people continue to use in places where it's not clear that the old jargon is being used. And I must admit that "class C block" just might have the peculiar meaning of 256 addresses to many even in these sub-netting days; maybe even enough to fairly call it part of the new jargon; traditions are hard to break and I haven't taken a poll. But for writers the term has become ambiguous and they shouldn't assume that readers still consider it to mean 256 addresses unless a context of stateful addressing has been clearly established. 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Therefore, I believe that perhaps a more legible wording may be in order: -R If file designates a directory, chown changes the ownership of the directory and the entire subtree connected at that point. Perhaps, all to the discretion of the developers, of course, the following text could be added: Caveat: depending on your shell, ".*" may expand the parent directory! >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Dec 20 23:58:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05E237B401 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 23:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from web14601.mail.yahoo.com (web14601.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A55B43ED8 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 23:58:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from samsinjoe@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20021221075808.54592.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.133.58.238] by web14601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 23:58:08 PST Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 23:58:08 -0800 (PST) From: samsin joe Subject: CONFIDENTIAL To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FRO:Samsin joe PHONE:(874)-762864167, (870)-762864167, (871)-762864167 FAX :(874)-762864168 (URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL) RE: TRANSFER OF ($26,000.000.00 USD} TWENTY SIX MILLION DOLLARS Dear Sir, We want to transfer to overseas account ($26,000.000.00 USD) Twenty six million United States Dollars) from a Prime Bank here in South Africa, I want to ask you, If you can look for a reliable and honest person who will be capable and fit to provide either an existing bank account or to set up a new Bank a/c immediately to receive this money, even an empty a/c can serve to receive this money, as long as you will remain honest to me till the end for this important business trusting in you and believing in God that you will never let me down either now or in future. 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 21 8:17:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7B637B401 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 08:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [64.57.102.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F8543EDC for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 08:17:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lioux@brturbo.com) Received: from 200-163-006-237.bsace7003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br (200-163-6-237-bsace7003.dsl.telebrasilia.net.br [200.163.6.237]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B94B8D5 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 08:17:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 57252 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Dec 2002 16:17:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20021221161720.57251.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:16:58 -0200 From: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Review change on committer's handbook Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-Disclaimer: I hope you find what you are looking for... in life :) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Could you review this small change on committer's handbook? I changed the text on how to request a repo copy for the ports repo. The new text reflects reality. :) Portmgr@ has already reviewed it but I wanted to get further text review and doc@ is the exact right place for it. heheh Regards, -- Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." Computer Science Undergraduate | FreeBSD Committer | CS Developer flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=patch --- article.sgml.orig Tue Dec 17 11:43:02 2002 +++ article.sgml Sat Dec 21 14:14:31 2002 @@ -2223,10 +2223,13 @@ - Send mail to the ports manager, who will do a copy - from the old location/name to the new location/name. - You will then get a notice, at which point you are - expected to perform the following: + Send mail to &a.portmgr; with the repo copy + request listing the reasons for it. First, &a.portmgr; + will evaluate it. Next, &a.cvs; will do a repository + copy from the old location/name to the new location/name + if &a.portmgr; approves it. You will then receive a + notice, at which point you are expected to perform + the following: --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 21 10:45: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9ED737B401 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 10:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (parmenides.zen.co.uk [212.23.8.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97FBA43EE5 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 10:45:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 5302 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2002 18:45:04 -0000 Received: from protagoras.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.61) by parmenides.zen.co.uk with QMQP; 21 Dec 2002 18:45:04 -0000 Received: from dsl-62-3-122-102.zen.co.uk (HELO eborcom.com) (62.3.122.102) by protagoras.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 21 Dec 2002 18:45:04 -0000 X-Zen-Trace: 62.3.122.102 Received: (qmail 4527 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Dec 2002 18:45:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:45:03 +0000 From: Tom Hukins To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Review change on committer's handbook Message-ID: <20021221184503.A4507@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Hukins , Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20021221161720.57251.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021221161720.57251.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here>; from lioux@FreeBSD.org on Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 02:16:58PM -0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 02:16:58PM -0200, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > + Send mail to &a.portmgr; with the repo copy I would write 'repository' instead of 'repo': other than that, your patch looks fine to me. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 21 11: 4:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C34B37B401; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:04:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust47.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A1043ED8; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:04:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 18PovF-0000sf-00; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:04:29 +0000 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:04:29 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Review change on committer's handbook Message-ID: <20021221190429.GA3101@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20021221161720.57251.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021221161720.57251.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. X-message-flag-attribution: suresh, sdm. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 02:16:58PM -0200, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > + Send mail to &a.portmgr; with the repo copy > + request listing the reasons for it. First, &a.portmgr; > + will evaluate it. Next, &a.cvs; will do a repository > + copy from the old location/name to the new location/name > + if &a.portmgr; approves it. You will then receive a It's not too clear who contacts cvs@; is that portmgr@ or the committer requesting the repo copy ? Ceri -- By my ancestors, I shall avenge the demise of my sons! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 21 11:30: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1167737B401 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E842543EE5 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBLJU3NS006686 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBLJU31d006685; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:30:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:30:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212211930.gBLJU31d006685@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/46415: Proposed change in man-page wording for "chown" Reply-To: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/46415; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) To: root@asarian-host.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/46415: Proposed change in man-page wording for "chown" Date: 21 Dec 2002 11:19:50 -0800 System Administrator writes: > Therefore, I believe that perhaps a more legible wording may be in order: > > -R If file designates a directory, chown changes the ownership of > the directory and the entire subtree connected at that point. 1) That leaves one guessing what happens if "file" isn't a directory. 2) While using just "ownership" *should* be sufficient, the manpage currently uses "owner" where it should use "user", so that "ownership" is likely to be interpreted as related only to "owner" and not also to "group" (groupship?). Short of fixing "owner" throughout, "ownership" should be replaced with the twice-used "user ID and/or the group ID" or maybe just "ID". 3) While "Entire subtree" provids a strong clue as to meaning that just "subtree" doesn't, they can be seen as equivalent in a strict reading. It could be more clear about being recursive. Maybe: -R Change the user ID and/or the group ID of the directory entries specified by the "file" arguments and, recursively, the contents of any directory subtrees named by those directory entries. (A little verbose, even redundant -- but clear, IMO. I'd probably end it "... subtrees so specified." if it didn't sound too archaic.) > Perhaps, all to the discretion of the developers, of course, the following text could be added: > > Caveat: depending on your shell, ".*" may expand the parent directory! It's usually best to avoid "your", and "expand the parent directory" seems to imply that ".*" might turn into a list of the parent directory's files. "Caveat" is unnecessarily esoteric. How about: Beware that ".*" is expanded by some shells to include "..". (Using ".." explains how the parent directory can be included and it shouldn't be necessary to explain that ".." IS the parent dir.) Another issue is the placement of the warning. An unexpected ".." could cause great harm with or without "-R". The warning seems to belong at the end of the DESCRIPTION section as a separate paragraph, but it's far more useful in reducing the occurances of disasters if it's in the description of "-R". It's short enough to put in both places. 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CFPRDDJOTQHGQVQLPOVZLJBTHPQFQKMOCMJCNT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 21 12:49:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4058F37B401; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8614B43EE5; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:49:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <20021221204932002000dbqqe>; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 20:49:32 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBLKn8k7021948; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:49:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id gBLJVtEP020990; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:31:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Review change on committer's handbook References: <20021221161720.57251.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 21 Dec 2002 11:31:55 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20021221161720.57251.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira writes: > + Send mail to &a.portmgr; with the repo copy > + request listing the reasons for it. First, &a.portmgr; > + will evaluate it. Next, &a.cvs; will do a repository > + copy from the old location/name to the new location/name > + if &a.portmgr; approves it. You will then receive a > + notice, at which point you are expected to perform > + the following: I have only quibbles, but since you seem to care... If "repo" is an accepted abbreviation, use it in both places; else use the full word in both places. Or at least use the full word before using the abbreviation. The second sentence would read better to me as: Next, if &a.portmgr; approves it, &a.cvs; will do a repository copy from the old location/name to the new location/name. (It seems more chronological, in some weak sense, in your series of steps.) BTW: Is "location/name" necessary? I'd think "Location" would suffice. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Dec 21 17:10: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96C137B401 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3E643EDE for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBM1A3NS007722 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBM1A3cv007721; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:10:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:10:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212220110.gBM1A3cv007721@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: System Administrator Subject: Re: docs/46415: Proposed change in man-page wording for "chown" Reply-To: System Administrator Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/46415; it has been noted by GNATS. From: System Administrator To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: Subject: Re: docs/46415: Proposed change in man-page wording for "chown" Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 02:00:09 +0100 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary W. Swearingen" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: Re: docs/46415: Proposed change in man-page wording for "chown" > System Administrator writes: > > > Therefore, I believe that perhaps a more legible wording may be in > > order: > > > > -R If file designates a directory, chown changes the ownership of > > the directory and the entire subtree connected at that point. > > 1) That leaves one guessing what happens if "file" isn't a directory. True. > While "Entire subtree" provides a strong clue as to > meaning that just "subtree" doesn't, they can be seen as equivalent in > a strict reading. I paraphrased the wording of "cp" (because "cp -R .*" acts similarly), which reads: -R If source_file designates a directory, cp copies the directory and the entire subtree connected at that point. > It could be more clear about being recursive. Maybe: > > -R Change the user ID and/or the group ID of the directory entries > specified by the "file" arguments and, recursively, the contents > of any directory subtrees named by those directory entries. Much better. :) > "Caveat" is unnecessarily esoteric. How about: > > Beware that ".*" is expanded by some shells to include "..". Excellent. :) Very clear. > Another issue is the placement of the warning. An unexpected ".." could > cause great harm with or without "-R". The warning seems to belong at > the end of the DESCRIPTION section as a separate paragraph, but it's > far more useful in reducing the occurances of disasters if it's in the > description of "-R". It's short enough to put in both places. I would love a little warning; yesterday a user on the FreeBSD mailing list hosed his entire system doing: "chown -R /data/.*" And I can see how that might be upsetting. :) Although I understand the man pages are not meant to take the place of a UNIX tutorial, in cases like this, a friendly hint or two may prevent a lot of disasters. Well, thanks for replying anyway. :) - Mark System Administrator Asarian-host.org --- "If you were supposed to understand it, we wouldn't call it code." - FedEx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message