From owner-freebsd-firewire Sun Jun 30 4:11:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5903237B40B for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 04:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maltanet.net (mailer2.maltanet.net [194.158.37.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E35A43E09 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 04:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peterk@maltanet.net) Received: (qmail 6208 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2002 11:11:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO default) ([195.158.106.37]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Jun 2002 11:11:22 -0000 Message-ID: <016601c22026$dd17b640$8c00000a@default> From: "Peter Korsten" To: "Craig Rodrigues" , Cc: References: <20020629150018.A6689@attbi.com> Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD-CURRENT off of a Firewire disk? Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 11:13:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Craig Rodrigues" > I am interested in installing FreeBSD-CURRENT on this machine. > The hard drive can be pre-installed with Windows XP, and I don't want > to blow away that install, nor do I want to resize the partition. > > The computer comes with a "Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Adapter". > Would I be able to buy an external Firewire hard disk and install a bootable > FreeBSD partition on that disk? What is the state of Firewire support > under FreeBSD? > > [...] > > Would I be able to use these under FreeBSD? If you can make a boot block for FreeBSD that has firewire support, you might pull it off. I think it's the only scenario possible with the restrictions (no resizing of the XP partition, etc.) that you describe. Since a boot block is typically very small (512 bytes or so), this could be a real challenge. - Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Sun Jun 30 6:16:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B74737B407; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dibbler.ne.client2.attbi.com (dibbler.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.61.41.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5739943E0A; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 06:16:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rodrigc@attbi.com) Received: (from rodrigc@localhost) by dibbler.ne.client2.attbi.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g5UDGvK12758; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:16:57 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:16:57 -0400 From: Craig Rodrigues To: Peter Korsten Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD-CURRENT off of a Firewire disk? Message-ID: <20020630091657.A12680@attbi.com> References: <20020629150018.A6689@attbi.com> <016601c22026$dd17b640$8c00000a@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <016601c22026$dd17b640$8c00000a@default>; from peterk@maltanet.net on Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 11:13:47AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 11:13:47AM +0200, Peter Korsten wrote: > If you can make a boot block for FreeBSD that has firewire support, you > might pull it off. I think it's the only scenario possible with the > restrictions (no resizing of the XP partition, etc.) that you describe. > > Since a boot block is typically very small (512 bytes or so), this could be > a real challenge. Unless I misunderstand what you are saying, I'm guessing that putting Firewire support within a 512 byte boot block will be impossible. Could I put some sort of minimal distribution on either a floppy disk or CD-ROM, just to do the initial bootstrap and initialize the Firewire driver, and then choose the final bootstrap using a kernel image on the firewire disk? Thanks. -- Craig Rodrigues http://www.gis.net/~craigr rodrigc@attbi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Sun Jun 30 11:23:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7503437B412 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 11:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maltanet.net (mailer1.maltanet.net [194.158.37.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6BD43E1A for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2002 11:23:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peterk@maltanet.net) Received: (qmail 3817 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2002 18:23:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO default) ([195.158.107.197]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Jun 2002 18:23:23 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01c22063$370cebc0$8c00000a@default> From: "Peter Korsten" To: "Craig Rodrigues" Cc: , References: <20020629150018.A6689@attbi.com> <016601c22026$dd17b640$8c00000a@default> <20020630091657.A12680@attbi.com> Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD-CURRENT off of a Firewire disk? Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:23:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Craig Rodrigues" > Unless I misunderstand what you are saying, I'm guessing that > putting Firewire support within a 512 byte boot block will be > impossible. > > Could I put some sort of minimal distribution on > either a floppy disk or CD-ROM, just to do the initial > bootstrap and initialize the Firewire driver, and then choose the > final bootstrap using a kernel image on the firewire disk? Yes, I forgot about the option of a boot disc (even though I'm using one right now for BeOS/OpenBeOS). That should work just fine, and a boot floppy should suffice. - Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message