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From: Damon Permezel <dap@damon.com>
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Hi.
I posted a question to "questions" and got no nibbles, so this time, I thought
"hardware" might be more appropriate.
The poweredge 4600 has oodles of PCI busses, but 4.5-RELEASE-p4 doesn't detect
cards plugged in to three of them, the PCI-X ones.
My guess is this is a server-werks chipset issue. "pciconf -v -l" indicates there are
CMIC-HC server werks devices.
I have tried with a PCI-X card with a BCM570X on it, and also with an old
64-bit, 33Mhz qlogic F/C card.
In both cases, the BIOS sees the cards, but the OS doesn't.
Here is the `pciconf -v -l' output:
chip0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00111166 rev=0x22 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Reliance Computer Corp./ServerWorks'
device = 'CMIC-HE'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
chip1@pci0:0:1: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00111166 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Reliance Computer Corp./ServerWorks'
device = 'CMIC-HE'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
chip2@pci0:0:2: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00111166 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Reliance Computer Corp./ServerWorks'
device = 'CMIC-HE'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
chip3@pci0:0:3: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00111166 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Reliance Computer Corp./ServerWorks'
device = 'CMIC-HE'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
fxp0@pci0:4:0: class=0x020000 card=0x01061028 chip=0x12298086 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82557/8/9 EtherExpress PRO/100(B) Ethernet Adapter'
class = network
subclass = ethernet
ahc0@pci0:6:0: class=0x010000 card=0x01061028 chip=0x001f9005 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Adaptec'
device = 'AHA-2940U2/AHA-2940U2W AIC-7890/1 Ultra2 SCSI Controller'
class = mass storage
subclass = SCSI
none0@pci0:14:0: class=0x030000 card=0x01061028 chip=0x47521002 rev=0x27 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'ATI Technologies'
device = 'Rage XL PCI'
class = display
subclass = VGA
chip4@pci0:15:0: class=0x060000 card=0x02011166 chip=0x02011166 rev=0x93 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Reliance Computer Corp./ServerWorks'
device = 'CSB5 PCI to ISA Bridge'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
atapci0@pci0:15:1: class=0x010182 card=0x02121166 chip=0x02121166 rev=0x93 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Reliance Computer Corp./ServerWorks'
device = 'CSB5 PCI EIDE Controller'
class = mass storage
subclass = ATA
isab0@pci0:15:3: class=0x060100 card=0x02301166 chip=0x02251166 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Reliance Computer Corp./ServerWorks'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-ISA
chip5@pci0:16:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00101166 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Reliance Computer Corp./ServerWorks'
device = 'CIOB30'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
chip6@pci0:16:2: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00101166 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Reliance Computer Corp./ServerWorks'
device = 'CIOB30'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
chip7@pci0:17:0: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00101166 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Reliance Computer Corp./ServerWorks'
device = 'CIOB30'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
chip8@pci0:17:2: class=0x060000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00101166 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Reliance Computer Corp./ServerWorks'
device = 'CIOB30'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
bge0@pci1:6:0: class=0x020000 card=0x01061028 chip=0x164414e4 rev=0x14 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
device = 'BCM5700/1 Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
class = network
subclass = ethernet
pcib9@pci1:8:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000068 chip=0x03098086 rev=0x01 hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '80303 I/O Processor PCI-to-PCI Bridge Unit'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
aac0@pci1:8:1: class=0x010400 card=0x01061028 chip=0x000a1028 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Dell Computer Corporation'
device = 'PowerEdge 3/Di Expandable RAID Controller'
class = mass storage
subclass = RAID
none1@pci2:6:0: class=0x010000 card=0x00c51028 chip=0x00c59005 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Adaptec'
device = 'RAID Subsystem HBA'
class = mass storage
subclass = SCSI
none2@pci2:6:1: class=0x010000 card=0x00c51028 chip=0x00c59005 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Adaptec'
device = 'RAID Subsystem HBA'
class = mass storage
subclass = SCSI
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On Sun, 5 May 2002, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
> Or, by some miracle the 'nv' driver might start supporting the GF4.
I obviously missed the first part of this thread, but if you're trying
to get a Geforce4 Ti 4400 or any new NVidia card to work with the nv
driver, I have a patchset that does just that. It simply adds the PCI
IDs and proper names for all of their newest cards, though I have only
tested with my new GeForce4 Ti 4400. The patchset is at:
ftp://ftp.wolves.k12.mo.us/pub/stuff/nvpatch.tar.gz
You should be able to drop the patchset into the 'files' directory in
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Anyone know if FreeBSD will run on one of these:
http://commerce.www.ibm.com/content/home/shop_ShopIBM/en_US/eServer/pSeries/entry/640B80_7026B80E.html
I'm not familiar with what a 375 MHz POWER3-II is ...
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Hi
No. The POWER3 chip is a relative of the PPC chip as seen in a Mac.
Not the same chip but based on the same architecture as the desktop PPC
chip.
Chad
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> Anyone know if FreeBSD will run on one of these:
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> I'm not familiar with what a 375 MHz POWER3-II is ...
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if anyone can get FreeBSD to run on a pSeries - without a MAJOR hack -
you will be my personal god... theoretically - shouldn't you be able to
run NetBSD on one of these? are there drivers for SSA drives?
barney
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> Anyone know if FreeBSD will run on one of these:
>
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hmmmm.....
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Michael Smith wrote:
> > i wish to fix this problem:
> >
> > john# pnpinfo
> > Checking for Plug-n-Play devices...
> > No Plug-n-Play devices were found
> >
> > this is on a box that has pnp things in it that get probed by the kernel
> > and work successfully.
>
> You don't have a problem.
interesting assertion. it implies that there is a mechanism for dumping
the pnp device 'facts' to the screen that i am heretofore unaware of.
i'd be *most* interested to find out what that is.
> pnpinfo only report on ISA PnP devices, and your PnP devices are
> enumerated by talking to the BIOS.
yes, but they are enumerated *very* quietly. i'd like to have a userspace
ability to peek. 'tis a handy thing.
i can su to root and run pciconf. neat tool.
what's the pnp equivalent? pnpinfo, right?
as i alluded to previously, it doesnt *tell* me anything. did i
miss a flag to pnpinfo that you are aware of and i am not? did miss an
application that you are aware of and i am not?
my current belief is that adding an ioctl to /usr/src/sys/isa/pnp.c that
allows a userland process to obtain these facts would be a positive thing.
then i'll just reimplement /usr/src/contrib/pnpinfo.c to utilize same.
> Can you please stop with this pointless quest now?
if it's pointless, u bet i'll stop!
but i'm currently hypothesizing that you are mistaken.
> = Mike
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> > > john# pnpinfo
> > > Checking for Plug-n-Play devices...
> > > No Plug-n-Play devices were found
> > >
> > > this is on a box that has pnp things in it that get probed by the kernel
> > > and work successfully.
> >
> > You don't have a problem.
>
> interesting assertion. it implies that there is a mechanism for dumping
> the pnp device 'facts' to the screen that i am heretofore unaware of.
acpidump.
> > pnpinfo only report on ISA PnP devices, and your PnP devices are
> > enumerated by talking to the BIOS.
>
> yes, but they are enumerated *very* quietly. i'd like to have a userspace
> ability to peek. 'tis a handy thing.
The PnP BIOS is obsoleted.
> i can su to root and run pciconf. neat tool.
>
> what's the pnp equivalent? pnpinfo, right?
There is none.
> my current belief is that adding an ioctl to /usr/src/sys/isa/pnp.c that
> allows a userland process to obtain these facts would be a positive thing.
It would be useless.
> > Can you please stop with this pointless quest now?
>
> if it's pointless, u bet i'll stop!
>
> but i'm currently hypothesizing that you are mistaken.
No.
You're running off down a path that has no benefit to either yourself or
FreeBSD in the long run. What you want to achieve is best handled by the
use of ACPI; you can read the raw tables with acpidump and look at the
resulting device tree with devinfo.
Consider investing time and effort where it will yield the best return.
Futzing with pnpinfo is not a good example.
= Mike
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Damon Permezel writes:
> Hi.
> I posted a question to "questions" and got no nibbles, so this time, I thought
> "hardware" might be more appropriate.
>
> The poweredge 4600 has oodles of PCI busses, but 4.5-RELEASE-p4 doesn't detect
> cards plugged in to three of them, the PCI-X ones.
> My guess is this is a server-werks chipset issue. "pciconf -v -l" indicates there are
> CMIC-HC server werks devices.
> I have tried with a PCI-X card with a BCM570X on it, and also with an old
> 64-bit, 33Mhz qlogic F/C card.
>
> In both cases, the BIOS sees the cards, but the OS doesn't.
Can you be more specific about "the OS doesn't"
Can you supply dmesg output from a verbose boot, please?
Also, try this patch & see if it helps..
Index: i386/isa/pcibus.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/Attic/pcibus.c,v
retrieving revision 1.57.2.6
diff -u -r1.57.2.6 pcibus.c
--- i386/isa/pcibus.c 23 Dec 2001 08:17:43 -0000 1.57.2.6
+++ i386/isa/pcibus.c 6 May 2002 19:11:34 -0000
@@ -197,6 +197,11 @@
*busnum = pci_cfgread(cfg, 0x44, 1);
break;
+ case 0x00111166:
+ s = "ServerWorks CMIC-HE"
+ *busnum = pci_cfgread(cfg, 0x44, 1);
+ break;
+
/* Integrated Micro Solutions -- vendor 0x10e0 */
case 0x884910e0:
s = "Integrated Micro Solutions VL Bridge";
Drew
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ok, but...
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Michael Smith wrote:
> > > > john# pnpinfo
> > > > Checking for Plug-n-Play devices...
> > > > No Plug-n-Play devices were found
> > > >
> > > > this is on a box that has pnp things in it that get probed by the kernel
> > > > and work successfully.
> > >
> > > You don't have a problem.
> >
> > interesting assertion. it implies that there is a mechanism for dumping
> > the pnp device 'facts' to the screen that i am heretofore unaware of.
>
> acpidump.
not in 4.5. will it be in 4.6? does it support non-ACPI machines?
> > > pnpinfo only report on ISA PnP devices, and your PnP devices are
> > > enumerated by talking to the BIOS.
> >
> > yes, but they are enumerated *very* quietly. i'd like to have a userspace
> > ability to peek. 'tis a handy thing.
>
> The PnP BIOS is obsoleted.
of course! but it's the one that's on my laptop, and i'm probably not
alone.
the bulk of my career with FreeBSD has always been with 'lagging
edge' technology. I've reached the point in my life where all my *desktop*
boxes are legacy free, but my laptop wont be any time soon.
legacy support makes freebsd more *accessible*. esp in poorer economies
that really *need* to have access to FreeBSD on ancient hardware so that
they can spend their money on food and medicine and stuff....
my own first experience with FreeBSD was on a 386/33 at a time when
pentiums where the current platform. FreeBSD was a superior choice when
compared to Win3.11 or Win95 on said 386. I wonder if i'd be where i am
today if the minimum FreeBSD hardware requirement had been a 486....
> > i can su to root and run pciconf. neat tool.
> >
> > what's the pnp equivalent? pnpinfo, right?
>
> There is none.
>
> > my current belief is that adding an ioctl to /usr/src/sys/isa/pnp.c that
> > allows a userland process to obtain these facts would be a positive thing.
>
> It would be useless.
well, if acpidump doesnt need acpi, then work on pnpinfo would be merely
redundant. :-)
if acpidump requires acpi ( which seems to be the case ) then i
believe that your assertion of uselessness is unsupported. because there
are older computers that can be productively used with FreeBSD that dont
have ACPI.
of course, you know much more about acpidump then i do, so if i am
mistaken and acpidump *will* work on older systems, then i'll consider
your strong advice.
> > > Can you please stop with this pointless quest now?
> >
> > if it's pointless, u bet i'll stop!
> >
> > but i'm currently hypothesizing that you are mistaken.
>
> No.
>
> You're running off down a path that has no benefit to either yourself or
> FreeBSD in the long run. What you want to achieve is best handled by the
> use of ACPI; you can read the raw tables with acpidump and look at the
> resulting device tree with devinfo.
this is a pretty strong statement! so i should have no problem with
not having ACPI?
> Consider investing time and effort where it will yield the best return.
yup. best return is 'whatever works on my box' followed closely by 'best
architecture for long term growth'.
> Futzing with pnpinfo is not a good example.
if acpidump can run on, or could be convinced to run on, my non-acpi
laptop, then i think that you are absolutely right. if it can, i'll
think really hard about moving to 5.0 so that i could help make *that*
work.
> = Mike
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Damon Anton Permezel writes:
> Drew,
>
> things are better -- certain PCI bus walkers can find the qligoc
> device, but the boot-time bus walker doesn't appear to venture onto
> that particular bus.
>
> pci bus 0x000e cardnum 0x06 function 0x00: vendor 0x1077 device 0x2200
> QLogic Device unknown
> CardVendor 0x1077 card 0x0002 (QLogic, Card unknown)
> STATUS 0x02b0 COMMAND 0x0117
> CLASS 0x01 0x00 0x00 REVISION 0x05
> BIST 0x00 HEADER 0x00 LATENCY 0x20 CACHE 0x08
> BASE0 0x00007c01 addr 0x00007c00 I/O
> BASE1 0xedd00000 addr 0xedd00000 MEM
> BASEROM 0xedc00000 addr 0xedc00000 not-decode-enabled
> MAX_LAT 0x00 MIN_GNT 0x40 INT_PIN 0x01 INT_LINE 0x0b
> BYTE_0 0x22001077 BYTE_1 0x00 BYTE_2 0x00 BYTE_3 0x00
>
> pciconf agrees:
>
> # pciconf -r pci14:6:0 0
> 0x22001077
>
> Any ideas?
I think the boot time bus walker may not want to walk past a
non-existing bus. I don't know how to get around that..
Drew
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On Monday, 6 May 2002 at 10:05:15 -0600, Troy Barnhart wrote:
>> Anyone know if FreeBSD will run on one of these:
>>
>>
> http://commerce.www.ibm.com/content/home/shop_ShopIBM/en_US/eServer/pSeries/entry/640B80_7026B80E.html
>>
>> I'm not familiar with what a 375 MHz POWER3-II is ...
PowerPC. IBM's RISC replacement for the PC. The same processor
family as in the Mac.
> if anyone can get FreeBSD to run on a pSeries - without a MAJOR hack
It'll be a major hack.
> you will be my personal god... theoretically - shouldn't you be
> able to run NetBSD on one of these?
Not yet. There's a project under way.
> are there drivers for SSA drives?
I don't know.
I have a similar machine here (dual processor 44p 270), and one of my
background projects is to get FreeBSD or NetBSD running on it. From a
FreeBSD perspective, I'd prefer to wait until Benno has his Mac port
up and running :-)
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Greetings. I recently posted to freebsd-questions about my audio issues but
haven't recieved any workable answers. So, I thought I would try hardware.
My setup:
I have an MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU Motherboard which uses the VIA Apollo KT333
chipset w/ the VT8233A Southbridge. It has integrated AC'97 Audio using
RealTek's ALC 650 6-Channel chipset. Everything on this system is wonderful
and flies with my FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE installation. The only problem is that
I can only get the audio to partially work. My pertinent dmesg output line
is:
pcm0: <VIA VT8233> port 0xe800-0xe8ff irq 9 at device 17.5 on pci0
It was detected beautifully so I ran "sh MAKEDEV snd0", successfully (I
think) creating all the device nodes (as listed in the pcm driver man page).
Finally, following the suggestion from the FreeBSD Handbook, I installed
and tried to use mpg123 to test my audio. Here is the output from that
attempt:
frodo# mpg123 waste.mp3
[...omitted startup lines...]
pcm0:play:0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead
Since then, I tried playing an audio CD with xmms and it worked just fine.
I can't, however, play an mp3 with xmms either. It just hangs forever until
I kill it. KDE's aRts also hangs indefinately; completely useless. Now,
just as I am authoring this email, when I try an mp3 with mpg123, instead
of complaining about an interrupt timeout it just displays its usual
startup mp3 decoding status and ends by outputting:
Playing MPEG stream from waste.mp3 ...
MPEG 1.0 layer III, 112 kbit/s, 44100 Hz joint-stereo
[4:16] Decoding of waste.mp3 finished.
No complaints, but also no sound and this all happens in the course of a
fraction of a second. So, my question is pretty open ended. Does anyone
have any idea if
a) My AC'97 RealTek chipset is truly supported by the PCM driver
b) If so, is there some bug or is my support only partial
c) If no to both 'b' cases, what are some of the things I may be doing wrong
Note: The audio works just fine under my Windows 98 installation (but I
don't want to run windoze). Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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On Mon, 6 May 2002, Troy Barnhart wrote:
> are there drivers for SSA drives?
No.
Do you have any good ideas on where to find SSA gear to develop drivers
against?
I've got everything but the enclosure and disks. :)
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I have tried with a hub and nothing has changed: same error.
My hub is built inside the monitor (Nokia 445Xpro).
My HW: Abit KT7A (bios rev: 1.3), K7 1333MHz, 1024 MB Ram 133MHz
This error is common to OpenBSD 3.0, NetBSD 1.5.2 and FreeBSD 4.5
I haven't tried older version of these O.S.
With windoze and linux all is fine (kernel 2.2 and kernel 2.4)
Hope this help.
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From: Chris Child <cpc35@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Logitech iFeel USB mouse attach error
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I have not yet tried it with a hub (I will as soon as I get a chance).
One
thing I forgot to mention (which probabally confuses the issue more) is
that
the mouse works fine under Windows, and worked fine under freebsd-4.4 (i
reinstalled from the iso to get to 4.5, I wanted to start clean). I'll
try the hub idea, please let me know if you can think of anything
else. -Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Hibma" <n_hibma@van-laarhoven.org>
To: "Chris Child" <cpc35@pacbell.net>
Cc: <freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: Logitech iFeel USB mouse attach error >
> This sounds like a problem that is not very easy to fix. Did you try
> with a (self-powered) hub in between the host and the mouse?
>
> The fact that the ugen driver does not attach might mean that the
mouse
> has gone south by the time it is time to attach to it.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Chris Child wrote:
>
> > Hi. I'm new to freebsd, and am having some trouble getting my mouse
to
> > work.
> >
> > I installed the 4.5-mini .iso. After booting, everything appeared
to be
> > working fine except for my mouse. I have a Logitech iFeel USB
mouse.
In
> > dmesg, I can see and error after recognizing it
(device_probe_and_attach:
> > ums0 attach returned 6). I'm attached my kernel config file
(JACKICE)
and
> > the dmesg output (dmesg.log).
> >
> > As a secondary question, dmesg seems to show the result of three
boots,
one
> > with the GENERIC kernel, and two with my new kernel. Is this
supposed
to
> > be? Thanks.
> >
> > -Chris Child
> >
> > Thanks in advance, and I'm not sure if it's standard practice on
these
> > message lists, but please cc a copy of the reply to me.
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Hi,
I have once asked if someone would be interested in implementing UDLR
and DVMRP and include it in FreeBSD ?
Julian Elischer mentioned it would be fairly trivial to implement as a
node in Netgraph. However I am no programmer.
I was wondering if no one had interest in UDLR ? I understand that today's
broadband access do not require these unidirectional links, but I can't
believe no one needs this, since they are also plenty of other use for it
apart from the fact it can be used for unidirectional link (one way
internet access (uplink is done thru a modem or a different kind of
internet access link))
If someone is interested in develloping this, there is some code source
available (it is FreeBSD Release 2.2.x. based and has not been maintained
for a long time).
Receivers boards
================
DVB-S PCI adapter drivers are also needed for devices from any of these
manufacturers
http://www.coship.com/English/products/cdvbany2010s.htm
http://www.broadlogic.com
http://www.pentamedia.com
http://www.twinhan.com.tw
who might be ready to lend or give out hardware in order to help
devellopement of these drivers.
Uplink boards
=============
These boards must be able to:
- Transmit IP packet over DVB/MPEG 2 transport stream
- Variable maximum data rate determined by external clock generator,
transparent for reception cards
- ISA Bus
As of today I have not found (yet) transmit (uplink) boards manufacturer
As for uplink boards the devellopement of such drivers are to be a problem
since it is very unlikely that anyone as a personal space segment on a DVB
capable satellite and the necessary hardware
However if anyone has ideas on how to build a test cheap unit for uplink
and downlink testing locally , please let me know.
Also since Bill Fenner is both part of the UDLR IETF BOARD and member of
the Mbone FreeBSD Team, we have a great source of internal knowledge in
this protocol etc...(In the event that Bill agrees to help (of course))
http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/
I have contacted the author of the RFC for UDLR Emmanuel Duros but as of
now it is to no avail since he has not answered my email (it has been
several months)
Here are some pointers to some available literature and source code:
What is UDLR (Short introduction)
=================================
http://www.actconferences.com/sif2002/abstract/udlr.htm
RFCs , Drafts and Charter
=========================
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/udlr-charter.html
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-udlr-pppoe-00.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-udlr-multicast-issues-00.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-udlr-security-00.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-udlr-dvmrp-conf-02.txt
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3077.txt
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1075.txt
Source code
===========
http://www-sop.inria.fr/rodeo/personnel/eduros/manu.html
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Howdy Christophe,
The directory ftp-sop.inria.fr/rodeo/eduros/pub/dvd, pointed to in
http://www-sop.inria.fr/rodeo/personnel/eduros/index-dvb.html does
not exist.
Was I supposed to look somewhere else?
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On Mon, 6 May 2002, Kendall P. Gifford wrote:
> pcm0: <VIA VT8233> port 0xe800-0xe8ff irq 9 at device 17.5 on pci0
{...}
> a) My AC'97 RealTek chipset is truly supported by the PCM driver
> b) If so, is there some bug or is my support only partial
> c) If no to both 'b' cases, what are some of the things I may be doing wrong
What's being detected is the AC97 audio in the VIA chipset, not your MB's
external ALC650 audio. As the audio on the chipset is not wired in, you
get nix out. You don't show it but your dmesg probably is listing the
unknown PCI id for the ALC650, which I don't know the FreeBSD support
status of.
As your BIOS would most likely be initialising the audio hardware, it
doesn't surprise me that playing a CD through it would work (I've seen
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Hello, all. I hope this is the correct forum for my question.
I'm attempting to install FreeBSD 4.5 on a new system I've just put
together (w/ two 60GB drives). This is the first time I've ever
installed a *nix system.
After reading the documentation & notes and the book I bought, I still
wanted clarification before going any further in my install process. I
know my question is probably simple, but I wanted someone else's opinion
before I potentially messed things up.
My scenario is as follows: When I reach the part of the install which
asks which disk I want to put my files on, I am given the warning,
``WARNING! A geometry of 116301/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect. Using a more
likely geometry...''. Upon clicking OK, I am given the fdisk utility to
create my slice(s). The second line of fdisk gives me: 7297 cyls/255
heads/63 sectors = 117226305 sectors (57239MB) which sounds similar to
my 60GB disc.
Even though I got the error message, is it okay to continue with the
install, or do I need to change something in the BIOS?
Any advice/assistance/help, etc. would be appreciated. Thanks for your
time.
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-Mark
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On 09-May-2002 Mark McVicker wrote:
> Hello, all. I hope this is the correct forum for my question.
>
> I'm attempting to install FreeBSD 4.5 on a new system I've just put
> together (w/ two 60GB drives). This is the first time I've ever
> installed a *nix system.
>
> After reading the documentation & notes and the book I bought, I still
> wanted clarification before going any further in my install process. I
> know my question is probably simple, but I wanted someone else's opinion
> before I potentially messed things up.
>
> My scenario is as follows: When I reach the part of the install which
> asks which disk I want to put my files on, I am given the warning,
> ``WARNING! A geometry of 116301/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect. Using a more
> likely geometry...''. Upon clicking OK, I am given the fdisk utility to
> create my slice(s). The second line of fdisk gives me: 7297 cyls/255
> heads/63 sectors = 117226305 sectors (57239MB) which sounds similar to
> my 60GB disc.
It is probably right. The real test is to see if it boots up ok after
you install. If it doesn't boot ok, then reinstall and use the other
geometry. As long as it boots ok that is all the geometry is used for.
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I have an Adaptec 2100S in a RAID 5 array, on a FBSD 4.4-stable. It's
been working fine (uptime 120 days), but the last two days I've gotten
this error:
Shared Memory Allocation Failed, To Size = 400, From Size = fc00, Errno =
1c
Shared Memory Allocation Failed, To Size = 400, From Size = fc00, Errno =
1cEngine connect failed: COMPATIBILITY number
Now, running the 'raidutil' command will only give this error. I've
reported this to Adaptec (which I'd like to publicly commend for being
*very* responsive to this), but I'm curious if anyone else has seen
something like this out of Adaptec cards and if they resolved it.
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> > > interesting assertion. it implies that there is a mechanism for dumping
> > > the pnp device 'facts' to the screen that i am heretofore unaware of.
> >
> > acpidump.
>
> not in 4.5. will it be in 4.6? does it support non-ACPI machines?
No. No.
> legacy support makes freebsd more *accessible*. esp in poorer economies
> that really *need* to have access to FreeBSD on ancient hardware so that
> they can spend their money on food and medicine and stuff....
Legacy support was typically implemented when it wasn't "legacy".
Continuing work on hardware that's been obsoleted when we don't have the
time and resources to keep up with the pace of newer developments simply
guarantees that we will be left further and further behind.
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Ok, I just recently purchased a 3ware Escalade 7410 controller card but =
I've run into some problems. I installed it in my server, but on bootup =
I get an error message that says this:
twe0: controller errors detected
retry 1
twe0: controller errors detected
retry 2
twe0: controller errors detected
and stops after the 3rd time. I've tried 2 different mobo's, both of =
them are Asus' though, the p3b-f and I can't remember the other model =
right now, both are not here with me. I've updated the firmware on both =
the card and the mobo, anyone have any suggestions? Anyone using this =
card and an Asus motherboard? if not an Asus, then what ARE you using? =
This is going to be in a server colo'd about 3 hours away, I need some =
reliability. :)
Joe White
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Hi All,
Slightly off topic;
I read on this list that 3ware was discontinuing their Escalade rang,
and concentrating on some of their NAS products. Based on this
information I held off purchasing one of these units.
But, judging by what I read on this list, and see on the 3ware site it
looks like the product line is still active, at least the 7xxx series.
I don't want to buy one of these units, and then in 3 months time, not
be able to buy more units, because they have been discontinued!
What about the freebsd 3ware utilities, are these still being maintained
(Mike?)
Thanks :)
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Emmanuel Duros already left INRIA.
(So, there may be some old links from our pages, sorry.)
Now, he is working at UDcast.
Namely, this company is selling/providing UDLR functions.
If you are interested in their services, you may want to mail to
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Hello,
I've bought a ARCHOS Recorder 20 (not the Studio, which used a
different chipset), and when plugged it is correctly
recognised by the USB subsystem as a umass device:
| umass0: ARCHOS ARCHOS USB2.0 (P4a), rev 2.00/11.01, addr 3
| da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
| da2: <FUJITSU MHN2200AT 7256> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
| da2: 650KB/s transfers
| da2: 19077MB (39070080 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 19077C)
now my problem is that when trying to access it, it failes:
| (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:0): READ(06). CDB: 8 0 0 0 1 0
| (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:21,0
| (da2:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Logical block address out of range
Does someone have an idea (and suggestions)?
For information here is the result of 'usbdevs':
bash# usbdevs -v
Controller /dev/usb0:
addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), VIA(0x0000), rev 0x0100
port 1 addr 2: low speed, power 50 mA, config 1, USB Receiver(0xc501), Logitech(0x046d), rev 0x0910
port 2 addr 3: self powered, config 2, ARCHOS USB2.0 (P4a)(0x0060), ARCHOS (0x05ab), rev 0x1101
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I have a question about writing to parallel ports.
I am trying to make a basic C program to write simple data to a parallel
port, but when I try, I get an error on opening /dev/lpt0 as "Device Busy"
I tried echo 255 > /dev/lpt0, and also got "Device Busy". When looking at
all my processes, I didn't see anything that visibly took control of
/dev/lpt0. In dmesg, I get both ppc0 and lpt0 detected with an IRQ and IO
address fine. What could be wrong? Thank you
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you arent root?
or, more likely, lpd owns it!
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> I have a question about writing to parallel ports.
> I am trying to make a basic C program to write simple data to a parallel
> port, but when I try, I get an error on opening /dev/lpt0 as "Device Busy"
> I tried echo 255 > /dev/lpt0, and also got "Device Busy". When looking at
> all my processes, I didn't see anything that visibly took control of
> /dev/lpt0. In dmesg, I get both ppc0 and lpt0 detected with an IRQ and IO
> address fine. What could be wrong? Thank you
>
>
>
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I am root, lpd isn't running, and as for ppi.. I tried their exact code
that they have in 'man ppi', and still doesn't work???
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> you arent root?
>
> or, more likely, lpd owns it!
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
>
> > I have a question about writing to parallel ports.
> > I am trying to make a basic C program to write simple data to a parallel
> > port, but when I try, I get an error on opening /dev/lpt0 as "Device Busy"
> > I tried echo 255 > /dev/lpt0, and also got "Device Busy". When looking at
> > all my processes, I didn't see anything that visibly took control of
> > /dev/lpt0. In dmesg, I get both ppc0 and lpt0 detected with an IRQ and IO
> > address fine. What could be wrong? Thank you
> >
> >
> >
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do you have the device in the kernel? i've never gave it any thought, but
wouldnt you need device ppi built in?
i dont know, i am just guessing....
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> I am root, lpd isn't running, and as for ppi.. I tried their exact code
> that they have in 'man ppi', and still doesn't work???
>
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
>
> > you arent root?
> >
> > or, more likely, lpd owns it!
> >
> > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> >
> > > I have a question about writing to parallel ports.
> > > I am trying to make a basic C program to write simple data to a parallel
> > > port, but when I try, I get an error on opening /dev/lpt0 as "Device Busy"
> > > I tried echo 255 > /dev/lpt0, and also got "Device Busy". When looking at
> > > all my processes, I didn't see anything that visibly took control of
> > > /dev/lpt0. In dmesg, I get both ppc0 and lpt0 detected with an IRQ and IO
> > > address fine. What could be wrong? Thank you
> > >
> > >
> > >
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device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
device ppbus
device lpt
device ppi
All there
On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> do you have the device in the kernel? i've never gave it any thought, but
> wouldnt you need device ppi built in?
>
> i dont know, i am just guessing....
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
>
> > I am root, lpd isn't running, and as for ppi.. I tried their exact code
> > that they have in 'man ppi', and still doesn't work???
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> >
> > > you arent root?
> > >
> > > or, more likely, lpd owns it!
> > >
> > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a question about writing to parallel ports.
> > > > I am trying to make a basic C program to write simple data to a parallel
> > > > port, but when I try, I get an error on opening /dev/lpt0 as "Device Busy"
> > > > I tried echo 255 > /dev/lpt0, and also got "Device Busy". When looking at
> > > > all my processes, I didn't see anything that visibly took control of
> > > > /dev/lpt0. In dmesg, I get both ppc0 and lpt0 detected with an IRQ and IO
> > > > address fine. What could be wrong? Thank you
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > john@utzweb.net
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how about the device in the dev dir?
ls /dev/ppi doesnt exist on my box, and i am unsure as to how to create
it.
that's my last idea, best 'o luck!
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
>
> device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> device ppbus
> device lpt
> device ppi
>
> All there
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
>
> > do you have the device in the kernel? i've never gave it any thought, but
> > wouldnt you need device ppi built in?
> >
> > i dont know, i am just guessing....
> >
> > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> >
> > > I am root, lpd isn't running, and as for ppi.. I tried their exact code
> > > that they have in 'man ppi', and still doesn't work???
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> > >
> > > > you arent root?
> > > >
> > > > or, more likely, lpd owns it!
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have a question about writing to parallel ports.
> > > > > I am trying to make a basic C program to write simple data to a parallel
> > > > > port, but when I try, I get an error on opening /dev/lpt0 as "Device Busy"
> > > > > I tried echo 255 > /dev/lpt0, and also got "Device Busy". When looking at
> > > > > all my processes, I didn't see anything that visibly took control of
> > > > > /dev/lpt0. In dmesg, I get both ppc0 and lpt0 detected with an IRQ and IO
> > > > > address fine. What could be wrong? Thank you
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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/dev/ppi0 -> /dev/ppi2 does exist :p
For those who are reading, I'm testing via a simple Led circuit.. led
connected to data pin one and grounded via ground pins. I'm also using the
code snippet used in 'man ppi'.
On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> how about the device in the dev dir?
>
> ls /dev/ppi doesnt exist on my box, and i am unsure as to how to create
> it.
>
> that's my last idea, best 'o luck!
>
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
>
> >
> > device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> > device ppbus
> > device lpt
> > device ppi
> >
> > All there
> >
> > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> >
> > > do you have the device in the kernel? i've never gave it any thought, but
> > > wouldnt you need device ppi built in?
> > >
> > > i dont know, i am just guessing....
> > >
> > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am root, lpd isn't running, and as for ppi.. I tried their exact code
> > > > that they have in 'man ppi', and still doesn't work???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > you arent root?
> > > > >
> > > > > or, more likely, lpd owns it!
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have a question about writing to parallel ports.
> > > > > > I am trying to make a basic C program to write simple data to a parallel
> > > > > > port, but when I try, I get an error on opening /dev/lpt0 as "Device Busy"
> > > > > > I tried echo 255 > /dev/lpt0, and also got "Device Busy". When looking at
> > > > > > all my processes, I didn't see anything that visibly took control of
> > > > > > /dev/lpt0. In dmesg, I get both ppc0 and lpt0 detected with an IRQ and IO
> > > > > > address fine. What could be wrong? Thank you
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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try /dev/MAKEDEV ppi, /dev/MAKEDEV is a shell script, take a look at it.
Brian
> From: Jai Dhar <jdhar@omega.focalnetworks.net>
> To: John Utz <john@utzweb.net>
> Cc: <freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Subject: Re: Parallel port writing
>
>
> /dev/ppi0 -> /dev/ppi2 does exist :p
> For those who are reading, I'm testing via a simple Led circuit.. led
> connected to data pin one and grounded via ground pins. I'm also using the
> code snippet used in 'man ppi'.
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
>
> > how about the device in the dev dir?
> >
> > ls /dev/ppi doesnt exist on my box, and i am unsure as to how to create
> > it.
> >
> > that's my last idea, best 'o luck!
> >
> >
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ok, one more suggestion.
the code fragment isnt sufficient i think. doesnt it need an open() on the
device?
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
>
> /dev/ppi0 -> /dev/ppi2 does exist :p
> For those who are reading, I'm testing via a simple Led circuit.. led
> connected to data pin one and grounded via ground pins. I'm also using the
> code snippet used in 'man ppi'.
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
>
> > how about the device in the dev dir?
> >
> > ls /dev/ppi doesnt exist on my box, and i am unsure as to how to create
> > it.
> >
> > that's my last idea, best 'o luck!
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> > > device ppbus
> > > device lpt
> > > device ppi
> > >
> > > All there
> > >
> > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> > >
> > > > do you have the device in the kernel? i've never gave it any thought, but
> > > > wouldnt you need device ppi built in?
> > > >
> > > > i dont know, i am just guessing....
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am root, lpd isn't running, and as for ppi.. I tried their exact code
> > > > > that they have in 'man ppi', and still doesn't work???
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > you arent root?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > or, more likely, lpd owns it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a question about writing to parallel ports.
> > > > > > > I am trying to make a basic C program to write simple data to a parallel
> > > > > > > port, but when I try, I get an error on opening /dev/lpt0 as "Device Busy"
> > > > > > > I tried echo 255 > /dev/lpt0, and also got "Device Busy". When looking at
> > > > > > > all my processes, I didn't see anything that visibly took control of
> > > > > > > /dev/lpt0. In dmesg, I get both ppc0 and lpt0 detected with an IRQ and IO
> > > > > > > address fine. What could be wrong? Thank you
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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I'm in the process of learning a lot of C's IO commands, so could you tell
me how I would use that? (I'm more into circuits, haven't really explored
the interfacing part until now, heh)
Thanx
On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> ok, one more suggestion.
>
> the code fragment isnt sufficient i think. doesnt it need an open() on the
> device?
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
>
> >
> > /dev/ppi0 -> /dev/ppi2 does exist :p
> > For those who are reading, I'm testing via a simple Led circuit.. led
> > connected to data pin one and grounded via ground pins. I'm also using the
> > code snippet used in 'man ppi'.
> >
> > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> >
> > > how about the device in the dev dir?
> > >
> > > ls /dev/ppi doesnt exist on my box, and i am unsure as to how to create
> > > it.
> > >
> > > that's my last idea, best 'o luck!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> > > > device ppbus
> > > > device lpt
> > > > device ppi
> > > >
> > > > All there
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > do you have the device in the kernel? i've never gave it any thought, but
> > > > > wouldnt you need device ppi built in?
> > > > >
> > > > > i dont know, i am just guessing....
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I am root, lpd isn't running, and as for ppi.. I tried their exact code
> > > > > > that they have in 'man ppi', and still doesn't work???
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > you arent root?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > or, more likely, lpd owns it!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have a question about writing to parallel ports.
> > > > > > > > I am trying to make a basic C program to write simple data to a parallel
> > > > > > > > port, but when I try, I get an error on opening /dev/lpt0 as "Device Busy"
> > > > > > > > I tried echo 255 > /dev/lpt0, and also got "Device Busy". When looking at
> > > > > > > > all my processes, I didn't see anything that visibly took control of
> > > > > > > > /dev/lpt0. In dmesg, I get both ppc0 and lpt0 detected with an IRQ and IO
> > > > > > > > address fine. What could be wrong? Thank you
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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i'd suggest looking for a tutorial for accessing devices in FreeBSD,
because i am not even sure that my assertion is correct.
On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
>
> I'm in the process of learning a lot of C's IO commands, so could you tell
> me how I would use that? (I'm more into circuits, haven't really explored
> the interfacing part until now, heh)
> Thanx
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
>
> > ok, one more suggestion.
> >
> > the code fragment isnt sufficient i think. doesnt it need an open() on the
> > device?
> >
> > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > /dev/ppi0 -> /dev/ppi2 does exist :p
> > > For those who are reading, I'm testing via a simple Led circuit.. led
> > > connected to data pin one and grounded via ground pins. I'm also using the
> > > code snippet used in 'man ppi'.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> > >
> > > > how about the device in the dev dir?
> > > >
> > > > ls /dev/ppi doesnt exist on my box, and i am unsure as to how to create
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > that's my last idea, best 'o luck!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > device ppc0 at isa? irq 7
> > > > > device ppbus
> > > > > device lpt
> > > > > device ppi
> > > > >
> > > > > All there
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > do you have the device in the kernel? i've never gave it any thought, but
> > > > > > wouldnt you need device ppi built in?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i dont know, i am just guessing....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am root, lpd isn't running, and as for ppi.. I tried their exact code
> > > > > > > that they have in 'man ppi', and still doesn't work???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, John Utz wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > you arent root?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > or, more likely, lpd owns it!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jai Dhar wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have a question about writing to parallel ports.
> > > > > > > > > I am trying to make a basic C program to write simple data to a parallel
> > > > > > > > > port, but when I try, I get an error on opening /dev/lpt0 as "Device Busy"
> > > > > > > > > I tried echo 255 > /dev/lpt0, and also got "Device Busy". When looking at
> > > > > > > > > all my processes, I didn't see anything that visibly took control of
> > > > > > > > > /dev/lpt0. In dmesg, I get both ppc0 and lpt0 detected with an IRQ and IO
> > > > > > > > > address fine. What could be wrong? Thank you
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
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