From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 1: 0:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187FE37B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 01:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aurora.siteplus.com (aurora.siteplus.com [66.129.2.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784BD43E3B for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 01:00:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@jwweeks.com) Received: from veager.jwweeks.com (pcp01076331pcs.midval01.tn.comcast.net [68.59.219.194]) by aurora.siteplus.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6L80m4f074185; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 04:00:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@jwweeks.com) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 04:00:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: "Felix C." Cc: FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: Restart without reboot In-Reply-To: <00bd01c2301c$b6d5fd10$46efa13f@felix> Message-ID: <20020721035826.D702-100000@veager.jwweeks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 20 Jul 2002, Felix C. wrote: > I know you can restart just a process by using 'kill -HUP pid', but what > process do I need to restart after modifying /etc/rc.conf? I've > always rebooted the machine in the past, but I've heard you can have the > rc.conf re-read. /etc/netstart will cause /etc/rc.conf to be re-read, and can be done from ssh just fine. Regards, -- Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 2: 8:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C8C37B401 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 02:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D58043E42 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 02:08:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wincentcolaiuta@mac.com) Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (smtp-relay02-en1 [10.13.10.225]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g6L9882F001093 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 02:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com (asmtp02-qfe3 [10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g6L982rE012360 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 02:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cannondale.elcentro.red ([202.45.118.73]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZLDDD00.M3P; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 02:08:01 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:37:42 +0930 Subject: Re: Restart without reboot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG To: Jim Weeks From: Wincent Colaiuta In-Reply-To: <20020721035826.D702-100000@veager.jwweeks.com> Message-Id: <506BA904-9C89-11D6-9262-003065C60B4C@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org El Sunday, 21 July, 2002, a las 05:30 PM, Jim Weeks escribi=F3: > > /etc/netstart will cause /etc/rc.conf to be re-read, and can be done=20= > from > ssh just fine. > Hmm. =46rom /etc/netstart: # This file is NOT called by any of the other scripts - it has been # obsoleted by /etc/rc.network and is provided here only for user # convenience (if you're sitting in single user mode and wish to start # the network by hand, this script will do it for you). Doesn't seem to do what you think it does... Cheers Wincent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 2:25: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADD637B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 02:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.emre.de (webmail.emre.de [194.8.203.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F2D43E4A for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 02:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@emre.de) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.emre.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6L9OuW29127 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:24:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from info@emre.de) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.emre.de: www set sender to info@emre.de using -f Received: from 192.168.2.2 ( [192.168.2.2]) as user emre@webmail.emre.de by webmail.emre.de with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:24:55 +0200 Message-ID: <1027243495.3d3a7de78afea@webmail.emre.de> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:24:55 +0200 From: Emre Bastuz To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remote system upgrade References: <20020721030144.GA865@lonerx> In-Reply-To: <20020721030144.GA865@lonerx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Ivan, Zitat von LonerX : > build the world I cannot find the way to 'make installworld' remotely. the short answer to your question is: you _can_ type "make installworld" while in multi user mode but you _should not_. To be honest, I have done this a few times and everything worked fine. Donดt sue me if your system gets messed up though :) Regards, Emre -- Emre Bastuz info@emre.de http://www.emre.de UIN: 561260 PGP Key ID: 0xAFAC77FD ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 3:35:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C5037B401 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 03:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amor.yuckfou.org (f40079.upc-f.chello.nl [80.56.40.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D9043E3B for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 03:35:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nivo+freebsd-isp@yuckfou.org) Received: by amor.yuckfou.org (Yuckfou Networks, from userid 500) id C967EBA8F; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:35:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:35:15 +0200 From: Nils Vogels To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remote system upgrade Message-ID: <20020721103515.GA68498@amor.yuckfou.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020721030144.GA865@lonerx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020721030144.GA865@lonerx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: Yuckfou Networks -- Internet with a smile! X-OS: FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE X-PGP-key: finger://nivo.pgpkey@yuckfou.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: B43C 1EFB 1DD3 4D7E 7D49 8036 401F BE41 C26B D15F X-Echelon-trap: Arafat, bomb, hezbollah, terrorist, gun, FBI, CIA, FCC, murder, kill X-Omnicode-URL: http://www.gadgeteer.net/omnicode X-Omnicode-Version: 0.1.6 X-Omnicode: sxy cm196 kg105 skead5c9.bf824b_in_summer ha603e18 ey6195b5 es+ sp= Ag1976.Fall anE.West hdn LoNL ZoB.early&D rl? LANL(9).native&EN(8)^(9)&DE(5)&FR(6)&LA(3).rusty Crc(7)^(9)&?.wish Edc(7) HbTV.SF&Film.SF&Action Pl{L} MvB&H&W Kd! MBINFJ FHS UFPitr.bofh IN12 Ad* X-Stardate: [-30]8797.18 X-Uptime: 12:30PM up 13 days, 16:33, 5 users, load averages: 1.00, 1.03, 1.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Ivan,, On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 07:01:44AM +0400, LonerX wrote: > All we know how much cvsup and following makes mean for a system. But > being able to cvsup the sources on my remote server and being able to > build the world I cannot find the way to 'make installworld' remotely. > If somebody has experience in that and can share it with me I'll be > really glad and grateful to know about it. I do it all the time, like this: 1) sync your sourcetree using cvsup: # cd /usr/src # make update 2) Read /usr/src/UPDATING, do whatever is needed according to that file 3) Rebuild your kernel and world # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYCONF # make buildworld 4) If all this went well, install the new kernel and world # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYCONF # make installworld 5) Merge configfiles, since installworld (luckily) doesnt do this # mergemaster 6) # shutdown -r +5 'Now entering the new world ..' HTH, -- Nils Vogels PGP:0xC26BD15F Available on keyservers. S@H:5243WU/7.102yr --> setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu. Will you find aliens? My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 3:39: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E2137B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 03:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amor.yuckfou.org (f40079.upc-f.chello.nl [80.56.40.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF0B43E58 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 03:39:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nivo+freebsd-isp@yuckfou.org) Received: by amor.yuckfou.org (Yuckfou Networks, from userid 500) id 8A5CFBA8F; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:39:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:39:04 +0200 From: Nils Vogels To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remote system upgrade Message-ID: <20020721103904.GB68498@amor.yuckfou.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020721030144.GA865@lonerx> <20020721103515.GA68498@amor.yuckfou.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020721103515.GA68498@amor.yuckfou.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: Yuckfou Networks -- Internet with a smile! X-OS: FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE X-PGP-key: finger://nivo.pgpkey@yuckfou.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: B43C 1EFB 1DD3 4D7E 7D49 8036 401F BE41 C26B D15F X-Echelon-trap: Arafat, bomb, hezbollah, terrorist, gun, FBI, CIA, FCC, murder, kill X-Omnicode-URL: http://www.gadgeteer.net/omnicode X-Omnicode-Version: 0.1.6 X-Omnicode: sxy cm196 kg105 skead5c9.bf824b_in_summer ha603e18 ey6195b5 es+ sp= Ag1976.Fall anE.West hdn LoNL ZoB.early&D rl? LANL(9).native&EN(8)^(9)&DE(5)&FR(6)&LA(3).rusty Crc(7)^(9)&?.wish Edc(7) HbTV.SF&Film.SF&Action Pl{L} MvB&H&W Kd! MBINFJ FHS UFPitr.bofh IN12 Ad* X-Stardate: [-30]8797.21 X-Uptime: 12:36PM up 13 days, 16:39, 6 users, load averages: 1.25, 1.11, 1.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 12:35:15PM +0200, Nils Vogels wrote: > Hi Ivan,, For some reason, when I post to the list, right after receiving my own posting, I get a secondary connection, which tries to deliver me a mail, but my policies deny them. Is someone accidentally autoreplying to the poster of new articles ? Below my error report .. Transcript of session follows. Out: 220 amor.yuckfou.org ESMTP Yuckfou Networks Who do you want to mail today? (1.1.11) In: HELO janus.hosting4u.net Out: 250 amor.yuckfou.org In: MAIL FROM: Out: 250 Ok In: RCPT TO: Out: 502 : Sender address rejected: Domain not found In: QUIT Out: 221 Bye -- Nils Vogels PGP:0xC26BD15F Available on keyservers. S@H:5243WU/7.102yr --> setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu. Will you find aliens? My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 9: 4:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0E537B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 09:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aurora.siteplus.com (aurora.siteplus.com [66.129.2.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632D543E3B for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 09:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@jwweeks.com) Received: from veager.jwweeks.com (pcp01076331pcs.midval01.tn.comcast.net [68.59.219.194]) by aurora.siteplus.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6LG4X4f079978; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:04:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@jwweeks.com) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:04:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Wincent Colaiuta Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Restart without reboot In-Reply-To: <506BA904-9C89-11D6-9262-003065C60B4C@mac.com> Message-ID: <20020721115704.A1225-100000@veager.jwweeks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Wincent Colaiuta wrote: > Hmm. From /etc/netstart: > > # This file is NOT called by any of the other scripts - it has been > # obsoleted by /etc/rc.network and is provided here only for user > # convenience (if you're sitting in single user mode and wish to start > # the network by hand, this script will do it for you). > > Doesn't seem to do what you think it does... I am aware of these notes in the heading of this script, but with all due respect I think you are misunderstanding what it says. It is telling you that if you find yourself in single user mode without network services, you may use this script to re-start them. Experience is usually worth more than conjecture, and I have used this script may times remotely to bring to life options added to /etc/rc.conf. The only glitch I have noticed is that aliases and routes are not deleted. For instance if you want to add a list of ifconfig statements that do not play well with existing ones, you will need to ifconfig delete those ips before running /etc/netstart. Regards, -- Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 9:38: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8025B37B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F0243E5E for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 09:38:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA42696 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:37:58 +0300 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 19:37:58 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: change password from web Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Does anybody know a cgi which can change email passwords from web? And yes I know thats a bad idea ;) Thanks Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 10:45:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCE837B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cavia.pp.ru (storm.demos.su [194.87.2.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D8043E42 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:45:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mitya@cavia.pp.ru) Received: from cavia.pp.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cavia.pp.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6LHjLJg001106; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:45:21 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from mitya@cavia.pp.ru) Received: (from mitya@localhost) by cavia.pp.ru (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g6LHjKvA001105; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:45:20 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 21:45:20 +0400 From: Dmitry Sivachenko To: "Felix C." Cc: FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: Restart without reboot Message-ID: <20020721174520.GA373@cavia.pp.ru> References: <00bd01c2301c$b6d5fd10$46efa13f@felix> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00bd01c2301c$b6d5fd10$46efa13f@felix> WWW-Home-Page: http://mitya.pp.ru/ X-PGP-Key: http://mitya.pp.ru/mitya.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 01:38:59PM -0500, Felix C. wrote: > > I know you can restart just a process by using 'kill -HUP pid', but > what process do I need to restart after modifying /etc/rc.conf? I've > always rebooted the machine in the past, but I've heard you can have > the rc.conf re-read. Do the following: # shutdown now (without -r). Then, in single user mode, do # exit The usual configuration procedure will happen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 10:56: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F9737B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alydar.infoteam.com (alydar.infoteam.com [207.246.83.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7496243E31 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmartin@infoteam.com) Received: from [10.0.0.10] (yoda.ksm.com [207.87.82.146]) by alydar.infoteam.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940EE6E737 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:56:01 -0400 From: Kenn Martin Reply-To: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remote system upgrade Message-ID: <232832815.1027259761@[10.0.0.10]> In-Reply-To: <20020721103515.GA68498@amor.yuckfou.org> References: <20020721030144.GA865@lonerx> <20020721103515.GA68498@amor.yuckfou.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.0a3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --On Sunday, July 21, 2002 12:35 PM +0200 Nils Vogels wrote: > Hi Ivan,, > > On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 07:01:44AM +0400, LonerX wrote: >> All we know how much cvsup and following makes mean for a system. But >> being able to cvsup the sources on my remote server and being able to >> build the world I cannot find the way to 'make installworld' remotely. >> If somebody has experience in that and can share it with me I'll be >> really glad and grateful to know about it. > > I do it all the time, like this: We do this quite often as well, with a few differences: > 1) sync your sourcetree using cvsup: > # cd /usr/src > # make update Our build machine's /etc/make.conf has the cvsup bits set and pointing to /etc/cvsup.conf, but we do this step in the same make call as buildworld. > 2) Read /usr/src/UPDATING, do whatever is needed according to that file > 3) Rebuild your kernel and world > # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYCONF > # make buildworld Our build script (below) does make buildworld first, and then a buildkernel with multiple machine configs. We always check the end of the log for the error count (must be zero) before continuing. The target machine(s) use NFS mounts to the build machine's /usr/obj and /usr/src. Then cd /usr/src > 4) If all this went well, install the new kernel and world > # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYCONF At this point, depending on the target machine's work load, we stop as many daemons as possible (e.g. named, httpd, etc.). This is really a business decision on whether that functionality can be down another couple minutes (in addition to the ultimate time involved in the cycling of the machine). > # make installworld > 5) Merge configfiles, since installworld (luckily) doesnt do this > # mergemaster To speed this up a bit, we have an /etc/mergemaster.rc with AUTO_INSTALL=yes COMP_CONFS=yes IGNORE_MOTD=yes which automatically installs any files that don't already exist and then gives a diff of just the settings you use in /etc/rc.conf > 6) # shutdown -r +5 'Now entering the new world ..' Or, if you don't have anyone to notify and you need to save time: # shutdown -r now Our buildall script (build machine only) ... We invoke this from a cron job every Saturday morning. If there is an urgent security fix needed, we can obviously run it any other time as well. No installs are ever done automatically and weeks may go by before we actually use one of these builds. Regardless, we always have a recent build ready to go if we find a need for any existing or new machine. -----8<----- #!/bin/sh LOGFILE=/tmp/buildall.log mv $LOGFILE $LOGFILE.0 echo '--------------------------------------------------------------' > $LOGFILE echo -n 'buildall started: ' >> $LOGFILE date >> $LOGFILE # cleanup echo '>>> Cleaning /usr/obj' >> $LOGFILE rm -rf /usr/obj/usr chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr rm -rf /usr/obj/usr echo -n ' complete: ' >> $LOGFILE date >> $LOGFILE # build userland cd /usr/src /usr/bin/make update buildworld >> $LOGFILE echo -n 'buildworld complete: ' >> $LOGFILE date >> $LOGFILE # build all kernels /usr/bin/make buildkernel KERNCONF="GENERIC KFW KMS KWS" >> $LOGFILE echo -n 'buildkernel(s) complete: ' >> $LOGFILE date >> $LOGFILE echo -n 'error count: ' >> $LOGFILE grep -c 'Error code' $LOGFILE >> $LOGFILE ----->8----- -- Kenn Martin InfoTeam Corp. voice/fax (work): 877 819 0414 voice/fax (home): 877 594 3375 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 11:39: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042BA37B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.csh.rit.edu [129.21.60.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E80F43E42 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:39:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@databits.net) Received: by hex.databits.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A8E6520F5C; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 14:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 12:38:59 -0600 From: Pete Fritchman To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: change password from web Message-ID: <20020721123859.A53244@absolutbsd.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from eyurtese@turkuamk.fi on Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 07:37:58PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 21/07/02 19:37 +0300 - Evren Yurtesen: | Hello, | Does anybody know a cgi which can change email passwords from web? | And yes I know thats a bad idea ;) This question gets asked here every couple of months; see this thread: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-isp&m=97618963712405&w=2 --pete -- Pete Fritchman [petef@(databits.net|freebsd.org|wyom.net)] finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 11:53:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF1E37B401 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail5.ksc.th.com (mail5.ksc.th.com [203.155.0.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6135D43E3B for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 11:53:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from easytoberich01@yahoo.com) Received: from ksc.th.com ([203.107.241.168]) by mail5.ksc.th.com (8.12.1/8.12.0) with SMTP id g6LILZr5010927 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:53:41 +0700 Message-Id: <200207211853.g6LILZr5010927@mail5.ksc.th.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:55:43 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org From: easytoberich01@yahoo.com (chancetoberich) Subject: สำหรับผู้ที่ต้องการโอกาสในการเปลี่ยนแปลงชีวิต Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org !!!!! Part-Time Job!! สำหรับนักเรียน นักศึกษา และผู้ทำงานประจำ คุณต้องการงานแบบนี้บ้างไหม…?? -งาน parttime ทำงานที่บ้านได้ ถ้าคุณใช้ Internet เป็น -ทำงานเพียงวันละ 2-3 ชม. -รายได้ 5,000 – 15,000 บาท ถ้าคุณเป็นคนหนึ่งที่ทำงานประจำหรือยังไม่มีงานทำ นักศึกษาที่กำลังศึกษาอยู่ ผู้ว่างงาน หรือผู้ที่ยังพอมีเวลาว่างจากงานประจำ มีคุณสมบัติเบื้องต้นดังนี้ 1. มีทัศนคติที่ดี 2. พร้อมที่จะเรียนรู้ เนื่องจากเป็นระบบใหม่จึงต้องให้มีการอบรมให้ตามความเหมาะสม 3. ต้องการที่จะทำงานอย่างจริงจัง อยากที่จะเปลี่ยนฐานะทางการเงินของตนเอง และอยากมีรายได้จากการทำงานตรงนี้จริงๆ ทุกอย่างเป็นไปได้ ใน http://www.geocities.com/getchances2000/ อย่า !…………….. เป็นแค่เพียงคนที่นั่งรอโอกาส To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 22:25:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEDB37B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi [193.166.133.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA6243E3B for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:25:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eyurtese@bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi) Received: from localhost (eyurtese@localhost) by bessel.tekniikka.turkuamk.fi (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA45210; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:25:04 +0300 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:25:04 +0300 (WET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Pete Fritchman Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: change password from web In-Reply-To: <20020721123859.A53244@absolutbsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes but thats involving putting passwords to a text file and then verifying them from mysql etc. What good can come from that kind of system? then in another post it is talking about poppasswd I tried that also. I accept it was my mistake that I didnt mention. It gives "Password Server is not responding." error even though I changeed server hostname etc. and telnet localhost 106 is working. Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 200 poppassd v1.2 hello, who are you? Plus in future I will need to change passwords from a tacacs file. I need a solution which works without poppasswd so that I can modify it and use. On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Pete Fritchman wrote: > ++ 21/07/02 19:37 +0300 - Evren Yurtesen: > | Hello, > | Does anybody know a cgi which can change email passwords from web? > | And yes I know thats a bad idea ;) > > This question gets asked here every couple of months; see this thread: > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-isp&m=97618963712405&w=2 > > --pete > > -- > Pete Fritchman [petef@(databits.net|freebsd.org|wyom.net)] > finger petef@databits.net for PGP key > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 22:48:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6290E37B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yama.openaccess.org (yama.openaccess.org [216.57.214.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BCA43E31 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) Received: from [10.0.1.22] (roswell.deman.com [204.201.133.2] (may be forged)) by yama.openaccess.org (8.12.3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M5ge66007712; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:48:07 -0700 Subject: Re: change password from web From: Michael DeMan To: Evren Yurtesen , Pete Fritchman Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Use webmin - webmin.com Create a group in webmin and assign that group access only to the 'password change' function. We use this in our office internally and it works great. Some users have access to a lot of stuff, while most can only change their password. For us, the fact that it syncs to SAMBA and we can dump it into NetInfo for OSX is all the better. In the alternative, look at the source code in webmin for the 'password change' function and see how they do it. - mike On 7/21/02 10:25 PM, "Evren Yurtesen" wrote: > Yes but thats involving putting passwords to a text file and then > verifying them from mysql etc. What good can come from that kind of > system? then in another post it is talking about poppasswd > I tried that also. I accept it was my mistake that I didnt mention. > It gives "Password Server is not responding." error even though I > changeed server hostname etc. and telnet localhost 106 is working. > > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost. > Escape character is '^]'. > 200 poppassd v1.2 hello, who are you? > > Plus in future I will need to change passwords from a tacacs > file. I need a solution which works without poppasswd so that I can > modify it and use. > > On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Pete Fritchman wrote: > >> ++ 21/07/02 19:37 +0300 - Evren Yurtesen: >> | Hello, >> | Does anybody know a cgi which can change email passwords from web? >> | And yes I know thats a bad idea ;) >> >> This question gets asked here every couple of months; see this thread: >> >> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-isp&m=97618963712405&w=2 >> >> --pete >> >> -- >> Pete Fritchman [petef@(databits.net|freebsd.org|wyom.net)] >> finger petef@databits.net for PGP key >> > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 21 22:51:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF42F37B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yama.openaccess.org (yama.openaccess.org [216.57.214.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D9443E58 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:51:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) Received: from [10.0.1.22] (roswell.deman.com [204.201.133.2] (may be forged)) by yama.openaccess.org (8.12.3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6M5kD66007730; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:46:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:51:40 -0700 Subject: Re: change password from web From: Michael DeMan To: Michael DeMan , Evren Yurtesen , Pete Fritchman Cc: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oh, on more part... > Create a group in webmin and assign that group access only to the 'password > change' function. > Associate this webmin group with whatever UNIX group(s) you have your customer accounts under. Then, when they login to webmin they will see only the 'change password' icon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 22 0:22:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EE237B400 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from park.rambler.ru (park.rambler.ru [217.73.193.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF8C43E6D for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:22:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaa@rambler-co.ru) Received: from park-gw (park-gw [217.73.193.2]) by park.rambler.ru (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g6M7Lbk88733; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:22:02 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from kaa@rambler-co.ru) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:21:37 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrew Kopeyko X-X-Sender: kaa@park.rambler.ru To: Chris Knipe Cc: "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: Restart without reboot In-Reply-To: <001101c23039$1697a020$fe01a8c0@genocide> Message-ID: <20020722105726.Y54776-100000@park.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Chris Knipe wrote: > No, > > Once the system is in init 1, it is single-user mode. It only runs one > shell, one one console. > > You'll need to be physically infront of the system... Or you can use 'remote console' to do all remotely: - add 'cuaa0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" cons25 on secure' line to '/etc/ttys' and 'kill -HUP 1' -- now you should have getty prompt on COM1 - connect COM1 to any terminal server (such as CISCO-2509/2511) and configure terminal server port to 9600,8,N,1 - add 'console="comconsole"' to /boot/loader.conf - connect to terminal server remotely (for CISCO use 'telnet 2001' to connect to system attached to CISCO's ASYNC-1 port) -- now reboot you system (may be done remotely via ssh) and see booting process on your terminal server connection. Some server platforms (such as Intel ISP-XXXX) can be cofigured to redirect BIOS input/output to COM1, so you can remotely configure BIOS and add-on cards with theis BIOSes (such as Adaptec SCSI, IDE RAID, etc) via that 'remote console'. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" > To: "Chris Knipe" ; "FreeBSD-ISP" > > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 11:23 PM > Subject: RE: Restart without reboot > > > > can this be done remotely (ie via ssh?) > > > > >init 1 > > >init 3 > > > > > >This switches your system to runlevel 1 (what is is when it starts > > >up), and when you go back to runlevel 3, your system will "boot up" > > >like it normally would do after a reboot. > > > > > >>I know you can restart just a process by using 'kill -HUP pid', but > > >>what process do I need to restart after modifying /etc/rc.conf? I've > > >>always rebooted the machine in the past, but I've heard you can have > > >>the rc.conf re-read. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Best regards, Andrew Kopeyko Rambler Co. http://www.rambler.ru/ phone : +7 095 745-3619 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 22 0:40:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0EE37B400 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from park.rambler.ru (park.rambler.ru [217.73.193.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481C543E42 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaa@rambler-co.ru) Received: from park-gw (park-gw [217.73.193.2]) by park.rambler.ru (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g6M7eBk89371; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:40:11 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from kaa@rambler-co.ru) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:40:11 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrew Kopeyko X-X-Sender: kaa@park.rambler.ru To: LonerX Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remote system upgrade In-Reply-To: <20020721030144.GA865@lonerx> Message-ID: <20020722113315.D54776-100000@park.rambler.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, LonerX wrote: > Hello. > > All we know how much cvsup and following makes mean for a system. But > being able to cvsup the sources on my remote server and being able to > build the world I cannot find the way to 'make installworld' remotely. > If somebody has experience in that and can share it with me I'll be > really glad and grateful to know about it. If you are upgrading not ancient system (not from 3.x to 4.6) you can remotelly say 'make world && make buildkernel && make installkernel && reboot' - in 97 % cases you would be able to ssh-in after reboot. Or use 'remote console'/'serial console' to be able to control single-user mode remotely. -- Best regards, Andrew Kopeyko Rambler Co. http://www.rambler.ru/ phone : +7 095 745-3619 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 23 3: 2:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BDC37B400 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 03:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from backup.dagupan.com (mailserver.dagupan.com [202.91.161.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B2643E31 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 03:02:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francisv@dagupan.com) Received: by mailserver.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3KC6Q0G9>; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:05:08 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C40B@mailserver.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Replacing default perl installation Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:04:58 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just replaced perl 5.000503 with 5.8.0 on my FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE machine but the process also messed up the directory locations. Now, the default (5.8.0) perl binary only looks for .PM files in /usr/lib/perl5 and doesn't even check /usr/local/lib/perl5. How do I add /usr/local/lib/perl5 to the path for the entire machine? --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.bitstop.ph streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 23 4: 5:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73F937B400 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 04:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.kiev.sovam.com (relay.kiev.sovam.com [212.109.32.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D25643E31 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 04:05:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dimitry@al.org.ua) Received: from [212.109.32.116] (helo=there) by relay.kiev.sovam.com with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 17WxTn-000IV6-00 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:05:23 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-u" From: Dmitry Alyabyev Reply-To: dimitry@al.org.ua To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Replacing default perl installation Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:05:22 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C40B@mailserver.dagupan.com> In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C40B@mailserver.dagupan.com> X-NCC-RegID: ua.svitonline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 23 July 2002 13:04, francisv@dagupan.com wrote: > Hi, > > I just replaced perl 5.000503 with 5.8.0 on my FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE machine > but the process also messed up the directory locations. Now, the default > (5.8.0) perl binary only looks for .PM files in /usr/lib/perl5 and doesn't > even check /usr/local/lib/perl5. How do I add /usr/local/lib/perl5 to the > path for the entire machine? take a look at /usr/ports/lang/perl5/Makefile and you will have a clue how you can get over -- Dimitry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 23 7:27: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8783637B400 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snickers.hotpop.com (snickers.hotpop.com [204.57.55.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB9D43E42 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bjfwd@hotpop.com) Received: from hotpop.com (kubrick.hotpop.com [204.57.55.16]) by snickers.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C38A760BE for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 195.66.181.138 (unknown [195.66.181.138]) by smtp-1.hotpop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1632F81BE for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:29:39 +0200 From: Boris X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Reply-To: Boris X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1711542862.20020723162939@hotpop.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth bfe448ae unsubscribe freebsd-isp boris@automata.co.yu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 23 9:20:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD5237B400 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (floyd.gnulife.org [199.86.41.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EDC43E42 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:20:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 604B643280; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:46:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F964309D for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:46:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:46:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Jamie Ostrowski To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with OpenSSH 3.4 Message-ID: <20020723114336.L2534-100000@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am running FreeBSD 4.5 and just upgraded to openssh 3.4p1. When I went to generate a key with ssh-keygen, all it does is give me the options menu. In the past when I've used ssh-keygen, it just generates my key for me, requiring no other options. I checked the man page for ssh-keygen, and I went to their web site, but I can find no info stating what options are necessary to generate a key. Can anyone offer some insight? - Jamie ===---===---===---===---===---===---===---=== "I thought you were going to get into shape." "I am. The shape I've selected is a triangle." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 23 11:35: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DD937B400 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (floyd.gnulife.org [199.86.41.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DEC43E67 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:35:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ABF8F43280; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:01:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943F84309D for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:01:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:01:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Jamie Ostrowski To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrading Openssh on FreeBSD 4.5 Message-ID: <20020723134555.H2628-100000@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to upgrade openssh to 3.4p1 on a FreeBSD 4.5 install. I installed the stock "Development" package during the install and left everything else untouched. After I was done installing, I performed the following: 1. cvsup'ed to the latest version of the source / ports 2. Made sure that the /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable/ Makefile has PORTVERSION= 3.4p1 3. typed "make OPENSSH_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES" 4. then typed "make OPENSSH_OVERWRITE_BASE=YES install" 5. typed reset 6. ps -axx | grep sshd 7. kill -HUP of sshd 8. telnet localhost 22 It came back with: Escape character is '^]'. SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.4p1 So far so good. When I try to connect from any other system though, response is erratic. Sometimes it lets us log in right away, other times the client will just sit and hang there. We have tried connecting from several different FreeBSD clients. It works properly about 50% of the time, it logs in and connects without any error. When I try to ssh -v from one of the clients, this is the response I get when it is hanging: mirage# ssh -v remotehost.foobar.net SSH Version OpenSSH_2.3.0 green@FreeBSD.org 20010321, protocol versions 1.5/2.0. Compiled with SSL (0x0090600f). debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0 debug: Connecting to remotehost.foobar.net [199.20.30.21] port 22. debug: Allocated local port 934. --and it sits there. The other 50% of the time it goes right in. I do not believe this is a network traffic problem. ssh worked fine on the machine before I did the upgrade. Is there something I did wrong during the install? Anyone have any ideas on how I might troubleshoot this? Thanks! - Jamie ===---===---===---===---===---===---===---=== "I thought you were going to get into shape." "I am. The shape I've selected is a triangle." 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Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp13.singnet.com.sg (smtp13.singnet.com.sg [165.21.6.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7999F43E42 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sajari@singnet.com.sg) Received: from singapura.singnet.com.sg (singapura.singnet.com.sg [165.21.10.10]) by smtp13.singnet.com.sg (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6O0dL4h008038; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:39:21 +0800 Received: from localhost (sajari@localhost) by singapura.singnet.com.sg (8.8.5/8.7.2) with ESMTP id IAA17972; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:39:21 +0800 (SST) X-Authentication-Warning: singapura.singnet.com.sg: sajari owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:39:21 +0800 (SST) From: SaJaRi To: Jamie Ostrowski Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with OpenSSH 3.4 In-Reply-To: <20020723114336.L2534-100000@floyd.gnulife.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there! Upgrade to FreeBSD 4.6 Stable using cvsup and that will come with a new version of openssh 3.4p1. This make it much cleaner since openssh come with FreeBSD installation. Cheers! -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Jamie Ostrowski wrote: > > > > > I am running FreeBSD 4.5 and just upgraded to openssh 3.4p1. When I > went to generate a key with ssh-keygen, all it does is give me the options > menu. In the past when I've used ssh-keygen, it just generates my key for > me, requiring no other options. I checked the man page for ssh-keygen, and > I went to their web site, but I can find no info stating what options are > necessary to generate a key. Can anyone offer some insight? > > > - Jamie > > > > ===---===---===---===---===---===---===---=== > "I thought you were going to get into shape." > "I am. The shape I've selected is a triangle." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 24 0:24: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7831137B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from backup.dagupan.com (mailserver.dagupan.com [202.91.161.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3437343E42 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:24:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francisv@dagupan.com) Received: by mailserver.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3KC6RCDS>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:26:43 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C41B@mailserver.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help with ftpchroot Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:26:34 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm currently testing FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE's and lukemftpd to chroot groups to their home directories (web hosting environment). I've added the groups in /etc/ftpchroot: /etc/ftpchroot: @clients but the user belonging to the group 'clients' is still not chrooted! --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.bitstop.ph streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 24 3:56: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE8237B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20107.mail.yahoo.com (web20107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AA5443E3B for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:56:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freefabri@yahoo.it) Message-ID: <20020724105600.59892.qmail@web20107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.227.212.160] by web20107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:56:00 CEST Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:56:00 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fabrizio=20Ravazzini?= Subject: Filtering Bridges & "quarantine" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all I'm building a filtering bridge with FreeBSD 4.5 and ipfw. Reading in the article "Filtering bridges" of the handbook I find in the firewall rules section: # Pass the "quarantine" range ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to any 49152-65535 in via ${oif} setup keep-state oif is the external interface linked to the router. What is "quarantine" range? I mean, why let ports between 49152 to 65535 be opened? I prefer to close them, or is there some motivations to let them opened for external connections? ______________________________________________________________________ Scarica il nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: con webcam, nuove faccine e tante altre novitเ. http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.messenger.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 24 11:41: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9494C37B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 726B543E7B for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:41:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: (qmail 24983 invoked by uid 501); 24 Jul 2002 18:40:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jul 2002 18:40:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:40:58 -0300 (BRT) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: LDAP Message-ID: <20020724153759.G75998-100000@mirage.nlink.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Is possible enable a name-service switch using 4.6-RELEASE? We are trying to switch our local users database to remote LDAP server. Paulo. -- __O _-\<,_ Why drive when you can bike? (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 24 11:46:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4254437B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kconline.com (mail.kconline.com [216.241.132.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477C143E6E for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clint@kconline.com) Received: from clint (b3.710.kconline.com [216.241.143.36]) by mail.kconline.com (8.12.4/8.12.3) with SMTP id g6OIkWFG072001 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:46:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from clint@kconline.com) Message-ID: <017701c23342$6f2fd8e0$248ff1d8@clint> From: "Clint Wilson" To: References: Subject: Livingston Radius Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:46:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am trying to learn all I can about Livingston Radius, does anyone know of any sites with extensive documentation. I am looking to learn about implementation and all of its abilities. Is there any books dealing with this version of radius? Regards, ___________________________________________________ Clint Wilson KC Online Inc. Tech Support Supervisor Asst. System Administrator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 24 12: 4:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7E937B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nelly.internal.irrelevant.org (81-86-164-179.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.164.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D5D43E31 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:04:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simond@irrelevant.org) Received: from simond by nelly.internal.irrelevant.org with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17XRRG-0001VO-00; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:04:46 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:04:46 +0100 From: Simon Dick To: Clint Wilson Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Livingston Radius Message-ID: <20020724190446.GB5729@irrelevant.org> References: <017701c23342$6f2fd8e0$248ff1d8@clint> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <017701c23342$6f2fd8e0$248ff1d8@clint> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 01:46:34PM -0500, Clint Wilson wrote: > Hello, > I am trying to learn all I can about Livingston Radius, does anyone know > of any sites with extensive documentation. I am looking to learn about > implementation and all of its abilities. > > Is there any books dealing with this version of radius? Personally I'd go with another radius server if you can as (for a start) I believe Livingston radius isn't being maintained, and it's not very expandable or modular compared to some other ones around nowadays. (I know this from experience I had when I had to add features to the code for a past employer, it wasn't fun :) -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 24 12:28:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1F237B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mammoth.nwonline.net (mammoth.nwonline.net [208.231.144.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586D843E42 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:28:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaron@weiker.org) Received: from weiker.org (unverified [208.231.144.26]) by mammoth.nwonline.net (Vircom SMTPRS 1.4.232) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:28:12 -0400 Message-ID: X-EM-APIVersion: 2, 0, 0, 8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: "Aaron Weiker" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: clint@kconline.com Subject: Re: Re: Livingston Radius Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:28:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Personally I'd go with another radius server if you can as (for a start) > I believe Livingston radius isn't being maintained, and it's not very > expandable or modular compared to some other ones around nowadays=2E > (I know this from experience I had when I had to add features to the > code for a past employer, it wasn't fun :) I'm using freeradius which seems to be one of the more flexible that I've seen=2E I believe it to be better than some of the ones that cost thousands of dollars=2E But this is my opionon= =2E Aaron Weiker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 24 13:58: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2281237B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kconline.com (mail.kconline.com [216.241.132.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6160A43E67 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:58:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clint@kconline.com) Received: from southerncomp (cols208510213.cols.net [208.5.10.213]) by mail.kconline.com (8.12.4/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6OKvlFI091199; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:57:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from clint@kconline.com) From: "Clint Wilson" To: "'Simon Dick'" Cc: Subject: RE: Livingston Radius Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:57:49 -0500 Message-ID: <00ca01c23354$c73899c0$eeeea8c0@southerncomp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <20020724190446.GB5729@irrelevant.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Personally I'd go with another radius server if you can as (for a start) > I believe Livingston radius isn't being maintained, and it's not very > expandable or modular compared to some other ones around nowadays. > (I know this from experience I had when I had to add features to the > code for a past employer, it wasn't fun :) Unfortunately I have no other choice but to learn Livingston it is what the ISP I work for is using. I am just trying to learn it to make myself more of an asset to my company. ~Clint To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 24 14: 5:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17B437B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net (web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net [206.47.131.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9267143E65 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:05:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@hawk-systems.com) Received: (qmail 54323 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2002 21:07:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1) (24.157.103.51) by web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net with SMTP; 24 Jul 2002 21:07:15 -0000 From: "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" To: "Aaron Weiker" , Cc: Subject: RE: Re: Livingston Radius Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:05:06 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> Personally I'd go with another radius server if you can as (for a start) >> I believe Livingston radius isn't being maintained, and it's not very >> expandable or modular compared to some other ones around nowadays. >> (I know this from experience I had when I had to add features to the >> code for a past employer, it wasn't fun :) > >I'm using freeradius which seems to be one of the more flexible that >I've seen. I believe it to be better than some of the ones that cost >thousands of dollars. But this is my opionon. XTradius in the ports is nice if you are a heavy perl/shell scripter... option to pump all authentication our to external scripts which open the door for database auth, and other customization without having to deal with restrictions of the radius server. For our use anyway works great (isp with virtual resellers and heavy Cisco AVPair returns to the NAS). Cheers, Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 24 17:12:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768F837B400; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cliff.mfn.org (cliff.mfn.org [204.238.179.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E9443E7B; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 17:12:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from measl@mfn.org) Received: from greeves.mfn.org (greeves.mfn.org [204.238.179.37]) by cliff.mfn.org (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g6P0CZ209276; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:12:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from measl@mfn.org) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:12:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Alif The Terrible To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pam_radius and logins (2nd request for help) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am attempting to centralize login credentials via RADIUS, as opposed to the current [evil] NIS. Currently, a telnet to my RADIUS authenticated [PAM] host goes like this: su-2.05a# telnet localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.mfn.org. Escape character is '^]'. Trying SRA secure login: User (root): test Password: <--- RADIUS PW is accepted according [ SRA accepts you ] to logs. FreeBSD/i386 (STEELMILL) (ttyp1) RADIUS password: <--- RADIUS again sends an accept, but... Login incorrect login: It looks to me like telnetd is getting it right, but the login process is missing it. I have tried many variation of the default pam.conf with no changes. I have noticed that if I place a passwd entry for "test", using "*" for the password, auth works. This led me to try using "template_user=nobody", without success. Does anybody have RADIUS auth working for direct logins? (The NAS are fine, it's just telnet/login/ssh on the BSD boxen themselves that are borked... Please copy me directly, as I am not currently subscribed. P.S. How's 5.0 looking for the targeted release date? Inquiring daemons want to know! -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 24 18:48:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2645C37B405 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net (web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net [206.47.131.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BA8143E88 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:48:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@hawk-systems.com) Received: (qmail 65585 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2002 01:50:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1) (24.157.103.51) by web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net with SMTP; 25 Jul 2002 01:50:55 -0000 From: "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" To: "Clint Wilson" Cc: Subject: RE: Livingston Radius Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 21:48:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <00ca01c23354$c73899c0$eeeea8c0@southerncomp> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> Personally I'd go with another radius server if you can as (for a >start) >> I believe Livingston radius isn't being maintained, and it's not very >> expandable or modular compared to some other ones around nowadays. >> (I know this from experience I had when I had to add features to the >> code for a past employer, it wasn't fun :) > >Unfortunately I have no other choice but to learn Livingston it is what >the ISP I work for is using. I am just trying to learn it to make myself >more of an asset to my company. > >~Clint at the risk of opening a can of worms, that like saying stick with BIND rather than streamline your ISP's DNS with DJBDNS or stick with sendmail rather than moving on to Qmail As far as "Livingston" radius... good luck getting anything complete and current. As mentioned, it isn't maintained anymore, not in an organized sense anyway. Perhaps pick one of the other packages and get a general gist for clients and users files since most if not all come from the same set of RFC's and are reasonably similar in the basic functions. IMO anyway. Cheers, Dave Disclaimer; lots of arguments in both camps on the DNS and MAIL issues. the statement is meant to be more of an "outside the box" statement than recommendation of DJB's software, or implying that BIND and sendmail are disfunctional in any way... flame war I am not about to get into. I am not a DJB fanatic, though I do find his stuff works and makes sense for my particular applications, and personally would NEVER go back to BIND or sendmail. YMMV To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 24 23:16:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C3437B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 23:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.retemail.es (smtp03.iddeo.es [62.81.186.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B0643E84 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 23:16:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JBIANQUETTI@sadiel.es) Received: from mailscan ([62.81.202.67]) by smtp03.retemail.es (InterMail vM.5.01.05.08 201-253-122-126-108-20020526) with SMTP id <20020725061627.CTCB27705.smtp03.retemail.es@mailscan> for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:16:27 +0200 Received: FROM CORREO.sadiel.es BY mailscan ; Thu Jul 25 08:14:24 2002 +0200 Received: from bsd.sadiel.es ([172.18.1.41]) by CORREO.sadiel.es with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:16:13 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:14:51 +0200 From: Jorge Bianquetti de las Heras To: Paulo Fragoso Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LDAP Message-Id: <20020725081451.7e8fa5b2.jbianquetti@sadiel.es> In-Reply-To: <20020724153759.G75998-100000@mirage.nlink.com.br> References: <20020724153759.G75998-100000@mirage.nlink.com.br> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jul 2002 06:16:13.0757 (UTC) FILETIME=[C71536D0:01C233A2] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:40:58 -0300 (BRT) Paulo Fragoso wrote: No, 4.6 don't use libnss. only CURRENT use it, but uses NetBsd's one, which don't include ldap like name service. Sorry. > Hi, > > Is possible enable a name-service switch using 4.6-RELEASE? We are trying > to switch our local users database to remote LDAP server. > > Paulo. > > -- > __O > _-\<,_ Why drive when you can bike? > (_)/ (_) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Saludos, Jorge. 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mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 4:37:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0149937B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B5843E67 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:37:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wincentcolaiuta@mac.com) Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-en1 [10.13.10.224]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g6PBbZPQ016492 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g6PBbYWf004471 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cannondale.elcentro.red ([202.45.118.73]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GZSYYL00.0KP; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:37:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:07:19 +0930 Subject: Re: Help with ftpchroot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG To: francisv@dagupan.com From: Wincent Colaiuta In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C41B@mailserver.dagupan.com> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org El Wednesday, 24 July, 2002, a las 04:56 PM, francisv@dagupan.com=20 escribi=F3: > Hi, > > I'm currently testing FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE's and lukemftpd to chroot=20 > groups to > their home directories (web hosting environment). I've added the = groups=20 > in > /etc/ftpchroot: > > /etc/ftpchroot: > @clients > > but the user belonging to the group 'clients' is still not chrooted! I know nothing about lukemftpd, but I do know that you can do this with=20= the standard ftpd that comes bundled with FreeBSD. See: /etc/login.conf man 5 login.conf Cheers Wincent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 6: 5:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F26C37B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.emre.de (webmail.emre.de [194.8.203.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F84643E77 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:05:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@emre.de) Received: from webmail.emre.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.emre.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7A026C01 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:05:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.emre.de (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g6PD5URD045202 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:05:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.emre.de: www set sender to info@emre.de using -f Received: from 194.8.193.125 ( [194.8.193.125]) as user emre@webmail.emre.de by webmail.emre.de with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:05:30 +0200 Message-ID: <1027602330.3d3ff79a18bd6@webmail.emre.de> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:05:30 +0200 From: Emre Bastuz To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Software for IP accounting? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 194.8.193.125 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I was just wondering what software might be used for doing IP based accounting in an existing network. We´ve been playing around with Cisco´s netflow but somehow it does not scale. Is there any other tool, hopefully FreeBSD based, that can be installed on a performant box to be put into a segment for sniffing and accounting traffic ? Something doing more than 100mb would be great. What do _you_ guys use for accounting purposes? Thanks and regards, Emre -- Emre Bastuz info@emre.de http://www.emre.de UIN: 561260 PGP Key ID: 0xAFAC77FD ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 6:35:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CCC37B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.emre.de (webmail.emre.de [194.8.203.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE8343E6E for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 06:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@emre.de) Received: from webmail.emre.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.emre.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F70A26C01 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:35:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.emre.de (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g6PDZKSJ045261 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:35:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.emre.de: www set sender to info@emre.de using -f Received: from 194.8.193.125 ( [194.8.193.125]) as user emre@webmail.emre.de by webmail.emre.de with HTTP; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:35:20 +0200 Message-ID: <1027604120.3d3ffe981a72e@webmail.emre.de> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:35:20 +0200 From: Emre Bastuz To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software for IP accounting? References: <1027602330.3d3ff79a18bd6@webmail.emre.de> <3D3FF954.90807@caravan.ru> In-Reply-To: <3D3FF954.90807@caravan.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 194.8.193.125 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Alexey, Zitat von Alexey G Misurenko : > Why are you thinking that that netflow is not scabaible? > Currently counted and analized traffic of our network > is about 60Mbit/s for outgoing streams and 45Mbit/s. well ... maybe the expression "does not scale" was a little bit misleading. There are two concerns when thinking of netflow: - how does it perform with speed up to 100MB and even Gigabit Ethernet? - as far as I have heard, there are serious issues when you try using netflow in an environment with Cisco 6500´s + CEF I´m not much into the netflow stuff, just heard the discussions of my colleagues. I ´m really curious about how other ISP´s handle that kind of stuff. Any input welcome :) Regards, Emre -- Emre Bastuz info@emre.de http://www.emre.de UIN: 561260 PGP Key ID: 0xAFAC77FD ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 8: 7:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF3C37B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cagelink.com (mail.cagelink.com [65.196.129.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F21943E75 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:07:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tyler@cagelink.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cagelink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EA1218262 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:10:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from tyler (workstation1.cagelink.com [65.196.129.10]) by cagelink.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DEADC218068 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:10:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000501c23406$c257b050$0a81c441@tyler> From: "Tyler Richey" To: Subject: Problem after upgrading Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:11:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just cvsupped to 4.6-STABLE last night and now im having problems with my mail server, I run vm-pop3d+postfix+amavisd+spamassassin. The only thing im having a problem with is spamassassin. When it is engaged noone can receive a email or send any email, it works fine when not engaged. Here are the logs: Jul 25 11:08:01 mail postfix/smtpd[5868]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Jul 25 11:08:01 mail postfix/smtpd[5868]: 9BEFD218328: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Jul 25 11:08:01 mail postfix/cleanup[5869]: 9BEFD218328: message-id= Jul 25 11:08:01 mail postfix/qmgr[5858]: 9BEFD218328: from=, size=7658, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jul 25 11:08:01 mail sendmail[5867]: g6PG7jqY005867: to=tyler.cagelink.com@cagelink.com, ctladdr=bounce-isp-tech-66903@lists.isp-lists.com (1005/1005), delay=00:00:16, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=36388, relay=localhost.my.domain. [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as 9BEFD218328) Jul 25 11:08:01 mail postfix/smtpd[5868]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Jul 25 11:08:01 mail postfix/pipe[5861]: 0068021827A: to=, relay=spamfilter, delay=347, status=sent (cagelink.com) Jul 25 11:08:01 mail sendmail[5873]: g6PG81iu005873: Authentication-Warning: mail.cagelink.com: spamfilter set sender to bounce-isp-tech-66903@lists.isp-lists.com using -f Jul 25 11:08:01 mail sendmail[5864]: g6PG7j9W005864: from=MAILER-DAEMON@cagelink.com, size=391936, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200207251541.g6PFfUO9004967@mail.cagelink.com>, relay=spamfilter@localhost Jul 25 11:08:01 mail postfix/smtpd[5868]: connect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Jul 25 11:08:02 mail postfix/smtpd[5868]: 01E55218364: client=localhost[127.0.0.1] Jul 25 11:08:02 mail postfix/cleanup[5869]: 01E55218364: message-id=<200207251541.g6PFfUO9004967@mail.cagelink.com> Jul 25 11:08:02 mail postfix/qmgr[5858]: 01E55218364: from=<>, size=399866, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jul 25 11:08:02 mail sendmail[5864]: g6PG7j9W005864: to=MAILER-DAEMON@cagelink.com, ctladdr=MAILER-DAEMON@cagelink.com (1005/1005), delay=00:00:17, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=35158, relay=localhost.my.domain. [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (Ok: queued as 01E55218364) Jul 25 11:08:02 mail postfix/smtpd[5868]: disconnect from localhost[127.0.0.1] Jul 25 11:08:02 mail postfix/pipe[5860]: A9DFA218262: to=, relay=spamfilter, delay=1397, status=sent (cagelink.com) Jul 25 11:08:02 mail sendmail[5876]: g6PG82Ph005876: Authentication-Warning: mail.cagelink.com: spamfilter set sender to MAILER-DAEMON@cagelink.com using -f Tyler Richey Network Administrator CageLink Computer Services http://www.cagelink.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 8:42:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA86037B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host5.domaindataservers.net (host5.domaindataservers.net [216.15.133.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423B843E31 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:42:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdlists@nwbombers.com) Received: from 64-35-128-114.gohighspeed.com ([64.35.128.114] helo=win98) by host5.domaindataservers.net with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Xkl4-0001aa-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:42:30 -0500 Message-ID: <010801c233f1$fc9d5720$0702a8c0@win98> From: "Mark Koskenmaki" To: References: <000501c23406$c257b050$0a81c441@tyler> Subject: PPPoE Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:43:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host5.domaindataservers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - nwbombers.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would like to secure (that is, keep people from getting access through or past) my wireless network. Is anyone familiar with using PPPoE on a windows (98, 2K, XP, ME) to connect to a freebsd based PPPoE "server"? I have no idea how it would be done, but it seems like a very sensible and slick idea to overcome the limitations of 802.11b network (in)security. Anyone? (consider me a total newbie, here) Mark Koskenmaki webmaster: www.nwbombers.com contact me offlist at mark@gotourown.com 10 of every 8 people are mathematically challenged "Beware anyone who can fake sincerity." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 8:58: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0A637B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from notus.primus.ca (mail.tor.primus.ca [216.254.136.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469C143E84 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:58:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leth@primus.ca) Received: from dialin-134-233.hamilton.primus.ca ([209.90.134.233]) by notus.primus.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #16) id 17Xl07-00039l-0A for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:58:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:57:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Hunt X-X-Sender: leth@lethargic.dyndns.org To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Software for IP accounting? In-Reply-To: <1027602330.3d3ff79a18bd6@webmail.emre.de> Message-ID: <20020725115607.L18127-100000@lethargic.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Emre Bastuz wrote: > Hi, > > I was just wondering what software might be used for doing IP based accounting > in an existing network. > > We´ve been playing around with Cisco´s netflow but somehow it does not scale. > > Is there any other tool, hopefully FreeBSD based, that can be installed on a > performant box to be put into a segment for sniffing and accounting traffic ? > > Something doing more than 100mb would be great. > > What do _you_ guys use for accounting purposes? > Look at ipfw(8). It keeps counters on each rule (packets and bandwidth). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 10:17:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B123637B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2616343E31 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:17:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@veidit.net) Received: from d1o1000.telia.com (d1o1000.telia.com [217.208.12.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PHHEpR010762; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:17:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from veidit.net (h59n1fls35o1000.telia.com [217.210.234.59]) by d1o1000.telia.com (8.10.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g6PHHEZ05264; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:17:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3D40329E.30806@veidit.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:17:18 +0200 From: John Angelmo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020721 X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Koskenmaki Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE References: <000501c23406$c257b050$0a81c441@tyler> <010801c233f1$fc9d5720$0702a8c0@win98> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > I would like to secure (that is, keep people from getting access through or > past) my wireless network. Is anyone familiar with using PPPoE on a > windows (98, 2K, XP, ME) to connect to a freebsd based PPPoE "server"? > > I have no idea how it would be done, but it seems like a very sensible and > slick idea to overcome the limitations of 802.11b network (in)security. > > Anyone? (consider me a total newbie, here) > > > PPPoE isn't recomended for this since it's so easy to spoof, my recomendation is a VPN connection. /John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 10:26:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEE137B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falken.reliable-net.net (falken.reliable-net.net [65.88.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F1343E31 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sblaydes@falken.reliable-net.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by falken.reliable-net.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) id g6PHOYno087481 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:24:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sblaydes@falken.reliable-net.net) Received: from falken.reliable-net.net (sblaydes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falken.reliable-net.net (8.12.3/8.12.3av) with ESMTP id g6PHOUtF087430 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:24:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from sblaydes@falken.reliable-net.net) Received: (from sblaydes@localhost) by falken.reliable-net.net (8.12.3/8.12.5/Submit) id g6PHOTC3087429 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:24:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:24:29 -0500 From: Scott Blaydes To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail queuing Message-ID: <20020725122428.A78124@rnetinc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a problem with mail to one domain always being queued and never being delievered. I am running Sendmail 8.12.3 with amavis-perl. Also, if i do a mailq, I never see the mail in question listed. Any ideas? Mail to other domains seems to be working just fine, it is just this one that is always being queued. Thank you, Scott Blaydes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 10:29:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D4C37B401 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inetworx.pcgameauthority.com (dsl081-233-167.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.233.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FC543E3B for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:29:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahall@pcgameauthority.com) Received: from inetworx.pcgameauthority.com (localhost.pcgameauthority.com [127.0.0.1]) by inetworx.pcgameauthority.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FC65630F; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by inetworx.pcgameauthority.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g6PHT0DJ001492; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200207251729.g6PHT0DJ001492@inetworx.pcgameauthority.com> X-Authentication-Warning: inetworx.pcgameauthority.com: nobody set sender to ahall@pcgameauthority.com using -f From: "Andre Hall" To: John Angelmo , Mark Koskenmaki , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 192.168.10.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, that doesn't really answer his question. ALl you did is open up a new can of worms. The 802.11x can be secured as I have sent John an email explaining how to do it. Yes, VPN is an additional component to the secure transmittion of his data across the network. Not to flame you Mark but I think some of us more experienced owe it to the newbies to give a bit more direction to their needs. There are also many web sites available giving examples on how this can be done. One of my favorites is http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/wireless_secure.htm Hope this helps as well. > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > I would like to secure (that is, keep people from getting access through or > > past) my wireless network. Is anyone familiar with using PPPoE on a > > windows (98, 2K, XP, ME) to connect to a freebsd based PPPoE "server"? > > > > I have no idea how it would be done, but it seems like a very sensible and > > slick idea to overcome the limitations of 802.11b network (in) security. > > > > Anyone? (consider me a total newbie, here) > > > > > > > > PPPoE isn't recomended for this since it's so easy to spoof, my > recomendation is a VPN connection. > > /John > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- NeoMail - Webmail that doesn't suck... as much. http://neomail.sourceforge.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 10:29:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7761537B401 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inetworx.pcgameauthority.com (dsl081-233-167.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.233.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CF043E42 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:29:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahall@pcgameauthority.com) Received: from inetworx.pcgameauthority.com (localhost.pcgameauthority.com [127.0.0.1]) by inetworx.pcgameauthority.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE6A56311; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by inetworx.pcgameauthority.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g6PHTvYC001501; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200207251729.g6PHTvYC001501@inetworx.pcgameauthority.com> X-Authentication-Warning: inetworx.pcgameauthority.com: nobody set sender to ahall@pcgameauthority.com using -f From: "Andre Hall" To: John Angelmo , Mark Koskenmaki , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 192.168.10.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, that doesn't really answer his question. All that answer does is open up a whole new can of worms. The 802.11x can be secured as I have sent John an email explaining how to do it. Yes, VPN is an additional component to the secure transmittion of his data across the network. Not to flame you Mark but I think some of us more experienced owe it to the newbies to give a bit more direction to their needs. There are also many web sites available giving examples on how this can be done. One of my favorites is http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/wireless_secure.htm Hope this helps as well. > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > I would like to secure (that is, keep people from getting access through or > > past) my wireless network. Is anyone familiar with using PPPoE on a > > windows (98, 2K, XP, ME) to connect to a freebsd based PPPoE "server"? > > > > I have no idea how it would be done, but it seems like a very sensible and > > slick idea to overcome the limitations of 802.11b network (in) security. > > > > Anyone? (consider me a total newbie, here) > > > > > > > > PPPoE isn't recomended for this since it's so easy to spoof, my > recomendation is a VPN connection. > > /John > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- NeoMail - Webmail that doesn't suck... as much. http://neomail.sourceforge.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 10:39:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F16037B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCD943E42 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:39:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from RoKlein@roklein.de) Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng1.kundenserver.de) by moutng6.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #2) id 17XmaI-0001FN-00; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:39:30 +0200 Received: from [80.129.39.204] (helo=roklein.homeunix.org) by mrelayng1.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #2) id 17XmaH-0005R3-00; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:39:30 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Robert Klein Reply-To: RoKlein@roklein.de Organization: roklein.de To: John Angelmo , Mark Koskenmaki Subject: Re: PPPoE Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:41:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000501c23406$c257b050$0a81c441@tyler> <010801c233f1$fc9d5720$0702a8c0@win98> <3D40329E.30806@veidit.net> In-Reply-To: <3D40329E.30806@veidit.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200207251941.19462.RoKlein@roklein.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Donnerstag, 25. Juli 2002 19:17, John Angelmo wrote: > PPPoE isn't recomended for this since it's so easy to spoof, my > recomendation is a VPN connection. And even easier listening to..... If it is to be something beginning with "PP," PPTP might be worth a look... (Which is a VPN solution.) Another idea might be IPSEC, YMMV. Robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 10:51:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6260037B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host5.domaindataservers.net (host5.domaindataservers.net [216.15.133.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E215E43E5E for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdlists@nwbombers.com) Received: from 64-35-128-114.gohighspeed.com ([64.35.128.114] helo=win98) by host5.domaindataservers.net with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17Xmlt-0005zR-00 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:51:30 -0500 Message-ID: <016701c23404$01d14280$0702a8c0@win98> From: "Mark Koskenmaki" To: References: <200207251729.g6PHT0DJ001492@inetworx.pcgameauthority.com> Subject: Re: PPPoE Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:52:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host5.domaindataservers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - nwbombers.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, let me elaborate: I'm not trying to keep people off the network. I'm not trying to prevent spying on data. I'm not trying to prevent wrong MAC addresses from accessing the network. I'm trying to prevent access to the internet THROUGH the network without username/password. The network will be private - 192.168.100.XXX and the idea is for anyone who's interested and can get the signal, TO configure and get access. Once they do, they enter a url in thier browser, reach a webserver with forms to allow them to sign up. I would suppose a VPN might do this, as well. Either way, once they sign up, they can log in using ppp. This way I don't care if they change machines, or use thier account on a desktop AND laptop.. .just not both at once. For those who "share" connections via win98, me, xp, 2k, whatever, it's all proxied, and those machines do not appear on my network. It just appeared to me that PPPoE would be relatively simple to set up. Or, via a VPN. I have just never seen a VPN, but believed they put quite a bit of extra overhead on the network, reducing throughput. Now, am I shooting in the dark here, or what??? Mark Koskenmaki webmaster: www.nwbombers.com contact me offlist at mark@gotourown.com 10 of every 8 people are mathematically challenged "Beware anyone who can fake sincerity." ----- Original Message ----- From: Andre Hall To: John Angelmo ; Mark Koskenmaki ; Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:29 AM Subject: Re: PPPoE > Well, that doesn't really answer his question. ALl you did is open up > a new can of worms. The 802.11x can be secured as I have sent John an > email explaining how to do it. Yes, VPN is an additional component to > the secure transmittion of his data across the network. Not to flame > you Mark but I think some of us more experienced owe it to the newbies > to give a bit more direction to their needs. > There are also many web sites available giving examples on how this > can be done. One of my favorites is > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/wireless_secure.htm > Hope this helps as well. > > > Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > > I would like to secure (that is, keep people from getting access > through or > > > past) my wireless network. Is anyone familiar with using PPPoE > on a > > > windows (98, 2K, XP, ME) to connect to a freebsd based > PPPoE "server"? > > > > > > I have no idea how it would be done, but it seems like a very > sensible and > > > slick idea to overcome the limitations of 802.11b network (in) > security. > > > > > > Anyone? (consider me a total newbie, here) > > > > > > > > > > > > > PPPoE isn't recomended for this since it's so easy to spoof, my > > recomendation is a VPN connection. > > > > /John > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > -- > NeoMail - Webmail that doesn't suck... as much. > http://neomail.sourceforge.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 11:30:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F87937B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailf.telia.com (mailf.telia.com [194.22.194.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DEB43E31 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@veidit.net) Received: from d1o1000.telia.com (d1o1000.telia.com [217.208.12.241]) by mailf.telia.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PIU9b1009352; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:30:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from veidit.net (h59n1fls35o1000.telia.com [217.210.234.59]) by d1o1000.telia.com (8.10.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g6PIU9Z21641; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:30:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3D4043B6.7050307@veidit.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:30:14 +0200 From: John Angelmo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020721 X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andre Hall Cc: Mark Koskenmaki , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE References: <200207251729.g6PHT0DJ001492@inetworx.pcgameauthority.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andre Hall wrote: > Well, that doesn't really answer his question. ALl you did is open up > a new can of worms. The 802.11x can be secured as I have sent John an > email explaining how to do it. Yes, VPN is an additional component to > the secure transmittion of his data across the network. Not to flame > you Mark but I think some of us more experienced owe it to the newbies > to give a bit more direction to their needs. > There are also many web sites available giving examples on how this > can be done. One of my favorites is > http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/wireless_secure.htm > Hope this helps as well. > > >>Mark Koskenmaki wrote: >> >>>I would like to secure (that is, keep people from getting access >> > through or > >>>past) my wireless network. Is anyone familiar with using PPPoE >> > on a > >>>windows (98, 2K, XP, ME) to connect to a freebsd based >> > PPPoE "server"? > >>>I have no idea how it would be done, but it seems like a very >> > sensible and > >>>slick idea to overcome the limitations of 802.11b network (in) >> > security. > >>>Anyone? (consider me a total newbie, here) >>> >>> >>> >> >>PPPoE isn't recomended for this since it's so easy to spoof, my >>recomendation is a VPN connection. >> >>/John >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> >> > > > PPPoE isn't recomended since it's so easy to spoof and it isn't encrypted, therefore I would suggest some other security solution. 802.1x (not 802.11x) is applied to both wired and wireless networks, but here your equipmend must have support for 802.1x and 802.1x capable hardware simply isn't worth the money for a homeuser. Now WEP works fine if you don't have any data that's needed to keep secure from others, but relaying on WEP to secure important data is just stupid since it takes from 15 to 1 hour to sniff the key. /John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 11:32:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE5B37B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maila.telia.com (maila.telia.com [194.22.194.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9FF43E5E for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:32:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@veidit.net) Received: from d1o1000.telia.com (d1o1000.telia.com [217.208.12.241]) by maila.telia.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6PIW9ET026867; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:32:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from veidit.net (h59n1fls35o1000.telia.com [217.210.234.59]) by d1o1000.telia.com (8.10.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g6PIW9Z22199; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:32:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3D40442F.6060100@veidit.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:32:15 +0200 From: John Angelmo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020721 X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Koskenmaki Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE References: <200207251729.g6PHT0DJ001492@inetworx.pcgameauthority.com> <016701c23404$01d14280$0702a8c0@win98> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > Ok, let me elaborate: > > I'm not trying to keep people off the network. > > I'm not trying to prevent spying on data. I'm not trying to prevent wrong > MAC addresses from accessing the network. > > I'm trying to prevent access to the internet THROUGH the network without > username/password. > > The network will be private - 192.168.100.XXX and the idea is for anyone > who's interested and can get the signal, TO configure and get access. Once > they do, they enter a url in thier browser, reach a webserver with forms to > allow them to sign up. I would suppose a VPN might do this, as well. > Either way, once they sign up, they can log in using ppp. This way I don't > care if they change machines, or use thier account on a desktop AND laptop.. > .just not both at once. For those who "share" connections via win98, > me, xp, 2k, whatever, it's all proxied, and those machines do not appear on > my network. > > It just appeared to me that PPPoE would be relatively simple to set up. > Or, via a VPN. I have just never seen a VPN, but believed they put quite > a bit of extra overhead on the network, reducing throughput. > > Now, am I shooting in the dark here, or what??? > > > Mark Koskenmaki > webmaster: www.nwbombers.com > contact me offlist at mark@gotourown.com > 10 of every 8 people are mathematically challenged > "Beware anyone who can fake sincerity." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andre Hall > To: John Angelmo ; Mark Koskenmaki > ; > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: PPPoE > > > >>Well, that doesn't really answer his question. ALl you did is open up >>a new can of worms. The 802.11x can be secured as I have sent John an >>email explaining how to do it. Yes, VPN is an additional component to >>the secure transmittion of his data across the network. Not to flame >>you Mark but I think some of us more experienced owe it to the newbies >>to give a bit more direction to their needs. >>There are also many web sites available giving examples on how this >>can be done. One of my favorites is >>http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/wireless_secure.htm >>Hope this helps as well. >> >> >>>Mark Koskenmaki wrote: >>> >>>>I would like to secure (that is, keep people from getting access >>> >>through or >> >>>>past) my wireless network. Is anyone familiar with using PPPoE >>> >>on a >> >>>>windows (98, 2K, XP, ME) to connect to a freebsd based >>> >>PPPoE "server"? >> >>>>I have no idea how it would be done, but it seems like a very >>> >>sensible and >> >>>>slick idea to overcome the limitations of 802.11b network (in) >>> >>security. >> >>>>Anyone? (consider me a total newbie, here) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>PPPoE isn't recomended for this since it's so easy to spoof, my >>>recomendation is a VPN connection. >>> >>>/John >>> >>> >>>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>>with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >>-- >>NeoMail - Webmail that doesn't suck... as much. >>http://neomail.sourceforge.net >> >> > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Ah perhaps this is something for you then: http://nocat.net/ /John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 12: 3:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CC937B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wow.atlasta.net (wow.atlasta.net [12.129.13.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0C543E5E for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:03:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drais@wow.atlasta.net) Received: from wow.atlasta.net (localhost.atlasta.net [127.0.0.1]) by wow.atlasta.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6PJ3odO063144; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (drais@localhost) by wow.atlasta.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id g6PJ3orc063141; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:03:50 -0700 (PDT) From: David Raistrick To: Mark Koskenmaki Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE In-Reply-To: <016701c23404$01d14280$0702a8c0@win98> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > Or, via a VPN. I have just never seen a VPN, but believed they put quite > a bit of extra overhead on the network, reducing throughput. > > Now, am I shooting in the dark here, or what??? Nope, you're not. I missed your earlier posts, but I assume you're using wireless LAN equipment for ISP access. PPPoE will do what you're looking for, and well. It DOES add some overhead, though. Rough numbers would be something in the realm of 8-10%. So if you've got BreezeAccess radios that, with one SU, can do a theoretical 3Mb...you get closer to 1.7Mb avg after the FHSS overhead..drop 10% and that leaves you perhaps 1.5Mb. If you're in a more realworld situation where your customers are seeing only 700kb or so, you're down to 630kbs... Keep it in mind. Also, the stock freebsd pppoe CLIENT is a big pig. On a 600mhz celeron box it'll eat nearly 90% cpu at 100base speeds. OTOH, while I didnt watch the numbers, inhouse testing using a Piii 1ghz freebsd pppoe server didnt bog with 2-5 active full-speed connections. Again, I didnt look closely at the load at that end. If you need any help let me know, I've got some small amount of pppoe w/ freebsd experiance...usually in a test-lab configuration, but i'm sure that'd help you get started. --- david raistrick drais@atlasta.net http://www.expita.com/nomime.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 12:10:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6293037B401 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wow.atlasta.net (wow.atlasta.net [12.129.13.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA44343E42 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:10:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drais@wow.atlasta.net) Received: from wow.atlasta.net (localhost.atlasta.net [127.0.0.1]) by wow.atlasta.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6PJAbdO064188; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (drais@localhost) by wow.atlasta.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id g6PJAbOh064185; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:10:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David Raistrick To: Mark Koskenmaki Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPPoE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, David Raistrick wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > Or, via a VPN. I have just never seen a VPN, but believed they put quite > > a bit of extra overhead on the network, reducing throughput. > > > > Now, am I shooting in the dark here, or what??? And just to follow up on my own post... I assume you're an ISP. In such a situation, as long as you're not selling your service as "secure" or anything..PPPoE should be fine. It's no more or less secure then anything ELSE on the internet, but does let you run your equipment in an unnumbered subnet to prevent access to your devices...including gateways. It CAN be spoofed, and it CAN be listened to....but so can telnet, pop3, http...If your customer needs/wants a secure connection (either to your CO or to another company), then sell them a strong encryption VPN solution. For everyone else, sell them easily-authenticated service. Hell, you can even sell by-the-seat to companies if things are configured right. (though when I designed a wireless network to do this, we were using a much less common wireless product....virtual aDSL almost. rfc1483 split horizon issues can be used to ones advantage.:) --- david raistrick drais@atlasta.net http://www.expita.com/nomime.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 12:33:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7569A37B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (mx1.freebsdsystems.com [216.126.94.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75A843E65 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:33:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@cybertouch.org) Received: (qmail 26695 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2002 19:33:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO panda.FreeBSDsystems.com) (216.126.94.34) by panda.freebsdsystems.com with SMTP; 25 Jul 2002 19:33:06 -0000 Subject: ftp and ident2 woes From: Lanny Baron To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.7 Date: 25 Jul 2002 15:33:06 -0400 Message-Id: <1027625586.16701.28.camel@panda.FreeBSDsystems.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello everyone, I have an adsl connection here, and for some reason can't download say, freebsd iso and, if I try to use ident2 without the -r (random) flag, /var/log/auth.log reports tons of bad requests. Using NATD and PPPoE. In almost all cases, fetch (used with make in the /usr/ports) seems to work. Anyone have any idea what might be going on here? Thanks in advance To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 15: 1: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781F237B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host5.domaindataservers.net (host5.domaindataservers.net [216.15.133.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057DB43E70 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdlists@nwbombers.com) Received: from 64-35-128-99.gohighspeed.com ([64.35.128.99] helo=win98) by host5.domaindataservers.net with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17XqfD-0004NP-00; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:00:52 -0500 Message-ID: <020401c23426$d7e97c80$0702a8c0@win98> From: "Mark Koskenmaki" To: "David Raistrick" Cc: References: Subject: Re: PPPoE Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:01:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host5.domaindataservers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - nwbombers.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ahhh, great... What I need is some pointers to what you use to do all this. The windows clients, and what you run on the freebsd box. I have a couple FreeBSD boxes I could use. One is a dual pent pro the other a P3 667, I would assume both adequate for perhaps 20 total users with a total aggregate bandwidth of perhaps 3Mbit/sec? I'm not a FreeBSD expert by any means, nor a networking guru... but if I know what to use, and have some kind of clue how it's set up, I can usually succeed. Mark Koskenmaki webmaster: www.nwbombers.com contact me offlist at mark@gotourown.com 10 of every 8 people are mathematically challenged "Beware anyone who can fake sincerity." ----- Original Message ----- From: David Raistrick To: Mark Koskenmaki Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: Re: PPPoE > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, David Raistrick wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Mark Koskenmaki wrote: > > > Or, via a VPN. I have just never seen a VPN, but believed they put quite > > > a bit of extra overhead on the network, reducing throughput. > > > > > > Now, am I shooting in the dark here, or what??? > > And just to follow up on my own post... > > I assume you're an ISP. In such a situation, as long as you're not > selling your service as "secure" or anything..PPPoE should be fine. It's > no more or less secure then anything ELSE on the internet, but does let > you run your equipment in an unnumbered subnet to prevent access to your > devices...including gateways. > > It CAN be spoofed, and it CAN be listened to....but so can telnet, pop3, > http...If your customer needs/wants a secure connection (either to your CO > or to another company), then sell them a strong encryption VPN > solution. For everyone else, sell them easily-authenticated service. > > Hell, you can even sell by-the-seat to companies if things are configured > right. (though when I designed a wireless network to do this, we were > using a much less common wireless product....virtual aDSL almost. rfc1483 > split horizon issues can be used to ones advantage.:) > > > > > --- > david raistrick > drais@atlasta.net http://www.expita.com/nomime.html > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 17:55:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEB937B401 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.tcworks.net (mail.tcworks.net [216.61.218.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC71843E6A for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:55:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (stp.tcworks.net [216.61.218.6]) by mail.tcworks.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q0teo95603; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:55:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3D409E0F.883F8A23@tcworks.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:55:43 -0500 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clint Wilson Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Livingston Radius References: <017701c23342$6f2fd8e0$248ff1d8@clint> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.3.1(snapshot 20020109) (mail.tcworks.net) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Clint Wilson wrote: > > Hello, > I am trying to learn all I can about Livingston Radius, does anyone know > of any sites with extensive documentation. I am looking to learn about > implementation and all of its abilities. > > Is there any books dealing with this version of radius? There is a mailing list courtesy of portmasters.com, send an email to majordomo@portmasters.com with the BODY line: subscribe portmaster-radius The help there is very good. -- Chris o----< ccook@tcworks.net >------------------------------------o |Chris Cook - Admin |TCWORKS.NET - http://www.tcworks.net | |The Computer Works ISP |FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org | o-------------------------------------------------------------o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 18: 7: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D955C37B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.tekrealm.net (dsl081-247-162.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.247.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235D143E42 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:07:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elitetek@tekrealm.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by freebsd.tekrealm.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) id g6Q17007063625 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elitetek@tekrealm.net) Received: from freebsd.tekrealm.net (whoami@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebsd.tekrealm.net (8.12.5/8.12.5av) with ESMTP id g6Q16xc3063616 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:06:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elitetek@tekrealm.net) Received: (from elitetek@localhost) by freebsd.tekrealm.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g6Q15ifv063592 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:05:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: freebsd.tekrealm.net: elitetek set sender to elitetek@tekrealm.net using -f Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:05:44 -0700 From: Andrew Stuart To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ftpd errors Message-ID: <20020726010544.GA63557@freebsd.tekrealm.net> Reply-To: elitetek@tekrealm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just checking to see if anyone has seen errors like this lately.. I noticed it started soon after ftpd was updated from the last security advisory.. Jul 25 17:25:47 freebsd /kernel: pid 49080 (ftpd), uid 1000: exited on signal 12 Jul 25 17:25:47 freebsd inetd[159]: /usr/libexec/ftpd[49080]: exit status 0xc Jul 25 17:26:09 freebsd /kernel: pid 49082 (ftpd), uid 1000: exited on signal 12 Jul 25 17:26:09 freebsd inetd[159]: /usr/libexec/ftpd[49082]: exit status 0xc Jul 25 17:27:08 freebsd /kernel: pid 49084 (ftpd), uid 1000: exited on signal 12 Jul 25 17:27:08 freebsd inetd[159]: /usr/libexec/ftpd[49084]: exit status 0xc also getting a few like: Jul 17 06:25:03 freebsd inetd[159]: /usr/libexec/ftpd[62815]: exit status 0x100 I setup lukemftpd a little bit ago, and also got it to error, but it was because my local harddrive filled up from a test file i downloaded.. but this doesnt seem to be a clean exit, and im kinda bothered/currious.. Jul 25 17:33:21 freebsd inetd[159]: /usr/libexec/lukemftpd[49185]: exit status 0x100 mind you, thats local workstation / slice filling up because i wasnt paying attention to where i was when i started the download.. but yet the server (another machine) exits with an error? Just making sure theres not going to be some other loophole for someone to exploit.. -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 25 21:29:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6C837B400 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trot.galis.org (ool-43530640.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.6.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BD943E42 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from george@galis.org) Received: (from gx@localhost) by trot.galis.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6Q3lcl03930; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:47:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:47:38 -0400 From: George Georgalis To: Andrew Kopeyko Cc: Chris Knipe , "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: Restart without reboot Message-ID: <20020725234738.C3662@trot> References: <001101c23039$1697a020$fe01a8c0@genocide> <20020722105726.Y54776-100000@park.rambler.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020722105726.Y54776-100000@park.rambler.ru>; from kaa@rambler-co.ru on Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 11:21:37AM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 11:21:37AM +0400, Andrew Kopeyko wrote: >On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Chris Knipe wrote: > >> No, >> >> Once the system is in init 1, it is single-user mode. It only runs one >> shell, one one console. >> >> You'll need to be physically infront of the system... > >Or you can use 'remote console' to do all remotely: > - add 'cuaa0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" cons25 on secure' line to > '/etc/ttys' and 'kill -HUP 1' >-- now you should have getty prompt on COM1 > - connect COM1 to any terminal server (such as CISCO-2509/2511) and > configure terminal server port to 9600,8,N,1 > - add 'console="comconsole"' to /boot/loader.conf > - connect to terminal server remotely (for CISCO use 'telnet > 2001' to connect to system attached to CISCO's ASYNC-1 port) >-- now reboot you system (may be done remotely via ssh) and see booting > process on your terminal server connection. > >Some server platforms (such as Intel ISP-XXXX) can be cofigured to >redirect BIOS input/output to COM1, so you can remotely configure BIOS and >add-on cards with theis BIOSes (such as Adaptec SCSI, IDE RAID, etc) via >that 'remote console'. I've been on Linux for a while and not to up on FreeBSD.... but, couldn't you just redefine a runlevel to do everything init 0 does then instead of powering down, provide a script to perform 'init 3' So to 'restart' without actually rebooting just 'init 2' (or whatever level you choose) or am I missing something? // George -- GEORGE GEORGALIS, System Admin/Architect cell: 347-451-8229 Security Services, Web, Mail, mailto:george@galis.org File, Print, DB and DNS Servers. http://www.galis.org/george To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 26 1:46: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F2C37B400 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from info.elf.stuba.sk (info.elf.stuba.sk [147.175.111.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E10843E3B for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:46:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leo@oel.sk) Received: from kesp-gw.kesp.elf.stuba.sk (kesp-gw.elf.stuba.sk [147.175.111.80]) by info.elf.stuba.sk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6Q8jb300712; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:45:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kesp-gw.kesp.elf.stuba.sk (leo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kesp-gw.kesp.elf.stuba.sk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6Q8jaDi016572; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:45:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Leo@oel.sk) Received: from localhost (leo@localhost) by kesp-gw.kesp.elf.stuba.sk (8.12.3/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id g6Q8jZEI016569; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:45:36 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from leo@oel.sk) X-Authentication-Warning: kesp-gw.kesp.elf.stuba.sk: leo owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:45:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Leo Mrafko X-Sender: leo@kesp-gw.kesp.elf.stuba.sk To: Scott Blaydes Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail queuing In-Reply-To: <20020725122428.A78124@rnetinc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned: by AntiVirus filter AVilter (msg.MsJOAPX5@delta.elf.stuba.sk) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have a problem with mail to one domain always being queued and never being delievered. I am running Sendmail 8.12.3 with amavis-perl. Also, if i do a mailq, I never see the mail in question listed. mailq for amavis queue: sendmail -bp -C /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.pre-amavis forcing queue run: sendmail -C /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.pre-amavis -q Read /usr/local/share/doc/amavis/README.sendmail carefully.. Use amavisd-new - milter, or better MIMEDefang-milter, it's much better than amavis. ------------------------------------------------------ Leo Mrafko Leo.Mrafko@oel.sk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 26 2:26: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAC837B400 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 02:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opium.co.za (opium.co.za [196.34.165.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C94343E65 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 02:26:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@opium.co.za) Received: from mark (helo=localhost) by opium.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Y1MC-0002Rk-00 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:25:56 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:25:56 +0200 (SAST) From: Mark Bojara X-X-Sender: mark@opium.co.za To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ipfw pipe - per connection Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, Is it possible to shape bandwidth with ipfw by per-connection and not per-ipaddress? eg. Every tcp/udp connect (outgoing) connection will be limited to 3 kb/sec. Regards Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------- Life is only as long as you live it. ---------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 26 15:33:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E08337B400 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usenet.isot.com (usenet.isot.com [63.161.224.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF86343E77 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@isot.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by usenet.isot.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6QMbHe77534 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:37:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from freebsd@isot.com) X-Authentication-Warning: usenet.isot.com: www set sender to freebsd@isot.com using -f Received: from 63.161.239.70 ( [63.161.239.70]) as user freebsd@isot.com by webmail.isot.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:37:17 -0500 Message-ID: <1027723037.3d41cf1d80e72@webmail.isot.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:37:17 -0500 From: freebsd@isot.com To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sendmail won't send 2 domains in separte IP block MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1-cvs X-Originating-IP: 63.161.239.70 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please help. domain1.com is my main mail server with IP 64.162.225.1, running sendmail v8.12.5, and main DNS. domain2.com is on a separate machine with IP 64.162.229.1, also running sendmail. domain2.com can send email to anyone including domain1.com and has no problem. domain1.com can send to virtual hosts within same machine, separate machine with same IP block, and outside the network, BUT cannot send to domain2.com or any virtual domains served in another machine with separate IP block. The following error message is returned from OutlookExpress sending using domain name: The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the server. The rejected e-mail address was 'myname2@domain2.com'. Subject 'test', Account: 'myname1@domain1.com', Server: 'domain1.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 5.1.1 ... User unknown', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79 The email "Mail Delivery Subsystem" is returned with following message when sending with IP address: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 550 Host unknown) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 5.1.2 ... Host unknown (Name server: 64.162.229.1: host not found) ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through ISOT. To find out more about ISOT, visit http://isot.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 26 15:35:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BC137B400 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D16243E72 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:35:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from george@durham.net) Received: from cerberus.motorcity.on.ca ([65.95.185.80]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20020726223521.KHHD11295.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@cerberus.motorcity.on.ca> for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:35:21 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cerberus.motorcity.on.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6QLfXI91799 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:41:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george@durham.net) Received: from ddd ([192.168.254.32]) by cerberus.motorcity.on.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with SMTP id g6QLfSD91789 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:41:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george@durham.net) Reply-To: From: "George Ramos" To: Subject: CRITICAL!!!!!! Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:38:17 -0400 Message-ID: <001b01c234f5$247870a0$20fea8c0@ddd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C234D3.9D66D0A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 ares.durham.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C234D3.9D66D0A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001D_01C234D3.9D779980" ------=_NextPart_001_001D_01C234D3.9D779980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is what is going on : This is the message that I am getting: ad4 hard error reading FSBN 12984895 of 0-111 Fatal trap 18: Integer divide fault while in kernel mode Instruction pointer 0X8...... ............................ .........................(more mambo jumbo) Sinking disks Done Uptime 15 seconds Panic Integer divide fault Reboot in 6 seconds (and it does) (every time) We are running a raid (2 drives) using an IDE Promise card Fastrak 100 TX-2. Any ideas? George Ramos Durham Net and Motor City Computers Please note that if you haven't E-mailed me in the past (and you think that there is a good reason for me to want to receive your E-mails, you must first send me an E-mail with the word wordone on the subject line, otherwise your E-mails will be rejected. I apologize for any inconvenience but given the amount of unsolicited E-mail that I used to receive I have had no choice but to take this measure. Best regards. ------=_NextPart_001_001D_01C234D3.9D779980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here is what is going on :

This is the message that I am=20 getting:

ad4 hard error reading FSBN = 12984895 of=20 0-111

Fatal trap 18: Integer divide fault while in kernel mode

Instruction pointer 0X8......

............................

.........................(more mambo jumbo)

Sinking disks

Done

Uptime 15 seconds

Panic Integer divide fault

Reboot in 6 seconds

(and it does) (every time)

We are running a raid (2 drives) using an IDE Promise card Fastrak = 100=20 TX-2.

Any ideas?

George Ramos
Durham Net and Motor City Computers
Please note = that if=20 you haven't E-mailed me in the past (and you think that there is a good = reason=20 for me to want to receive your E-mails, you must first send me an E-mail = with=20 the word wordone on the subject line, otherwise your E-mails will be = rejected. I=20 apologize for any inconvenience but given the amount of unsolicited = E-mail that=20 I used to receive I have had no choice but to take this measure.
Best = regards.

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i've looked around about this but had no luck.. its an older freebsd machine (this particular one is 3.4-stable) running sendmail 8.10.1. any help is mucho appreciated.. thanks /|\ Jason Woyak - Skypoint Lead Technician /|\ HomePage: http://www.skypoint.com/~jason Phone: (763) 548-2615 | Cell: (612) 701-6610 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 26 15:40:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB0437B400 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blue.centerone.com (blue.centerone.com [204.133.183.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD63943E3B for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rforsythe@centerone.com) Received: from DELIVERANCE-XP.centerone.com (hs5-ifw.wiaas.org [65.102.239.61]) by blue.centerone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23925; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:53:21 -0600 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020726163606.02f73d60@mail.centerone.com> X-Sender: rforsythe@mail.centerone.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:37:59 -0600 To: , From: Ralph Forsythe Subject: Re: CRITICAL!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <001b01c234f5$247870a0$20fea8c0@ddd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:38 PM 7/26/2002 -0400, George Ramos wrote: (a bunch of stuff deleted) >Sinking disks SINKing? Hmm, that doesn't sound good. :) I think you mean "syncing". >We are running a raid (2 drives) using an IDE Promise card Fastrak 100 TX-2. > >Any ideas? Ya, bad hardware probably. Either a flaky controller (does this happen a lot? Are the numbers reported always different or the same?) or a bad disk. -rf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 26 15:40:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE70937B401 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blue.centerone.com (blue.centerone.com [204.133.183.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2827543E31 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rforsythe@centerone.com) Received: from DELIVERANCE-XP.centerone.com (hs5-ifw.wiaas.org [65.102.239.61]) by blue.centerone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23930; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:53:22 -0600 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020726163830.01d31aa8@mail.centerone.com> X-Sender: rforsythe@mail.centerone.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:38:58 -0600 To: freebsd@isot.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ralph Forsythe Subject: Re: Sendmail won't send 2 domains in separte IP block In-Reply-To: <1027723037.3d41cf1d80e72@webmail.isot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can you ping one from the other? Sounds like it might not have a good route to the other host... -rf At 05:37 PM 7/26/2002 -0500, freebsd@isot.com wrote: >Please help. > >domain1.com is my main mail server with IP 64.162.225.1, running sendmail >v8.12.5, and main DNS. >domain2.com is on a separate machine with IP 64.162.229.1, also running >sendmail. > >domain2.com can send email to anyone including domain1.com and has no >problem. >domain1.com can send to virtual hosts within same machine, separate machine >with same IP block, and outside the network, BUT cannot send to domain2.com >or any virtual domains served in another machine with separate IP block. > >The following error message is returned from OutlookExpress sending using >domain name: > >The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by >the server. The rejected e-mail address was 'myname2@domain2.com'. Subject >'test', Account: 'myname1@domain1.com', Server: 'domain1.com', Protocol: >SMTP, Server Response: '550 5.1.1 ... User unknown', >Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79 > >The email "Mail Delivery Subsystem" is returned with following message when >sending with IP address: > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 550 Host unknown) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 550 5.1.2 ... Host unknown (Name server: >64.162.229.1: host not found) > > > > >------------------------------------------------- >This mail sent through ISOT. To find out more >about ISOT, visit http://isot.com > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 26 15:45:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA99B37B400 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts19-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts19.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A601A43E3B for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:45:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from george@durham.net) Received: from cerberus.motorcity.on.ca ([65.95.185.80]) by tomts19-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20020726224514.HHFP10226.tomts19-srv.bellnexxia.net@cerberus.motorcity.on.ca>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:45:14 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cerberus.motorcity.on.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6QLphp91832; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:51:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george@durham.net) Received: from ddd ([192.168.254.32]) by cerberus.motorcity.on.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with SMTP id g6QLpcD91824; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:51:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george@durham.net) Reply-To: From: "George Ramos" To: "'Ralph Forsythe'" , Subject: RE: CRITICAL!!!!!! Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 18:48:30 -0400 Message-ID: <002401c234f6$90848bc0$20fea8c0@ddd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020726163606.02f73d60@mail.centerone.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 ares.durham.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is the message that I am getting: ad4 hard error reading FSBN 12984895 of 0-111 Fatal trap 18: Integer divide fault while in kernel mode Instruction pointer 0X8...... ............................ .........................(more mambo jumbo) Sinking disks Done Uptime 15 seconds Panic Integer divide fault Reboot in 6 seconds (and it does) (every time) -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ralph Forsythe Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:38 PM To: george@durham.net; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CRITICAL!!!!!! At 06:38 PM 7/26/2002 -0400, George Ramos wrote: (a bunch of stuff deleted) >Sinking disks SINKing? Hmm, that doesn't sound good. :) I think you mean "syncing". >We are running a raid (2 drives) using an IDE Promise card Fastrak 100 TX-2. > >Any ideas? Ya, bad hardware probably. Either a flaky controller (does this happen a lot? Are the numbers reported always different or the same?) or a bad disk. -rf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 26 15:48:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3C537B400 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blue.centerone.com (blue.centerone.com [204.133.183.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9030143E4A for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:48:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rforsythe@centerone.com) Received: from DELIVERANCE-XP.centerone.com (hs5-ifw.wiaas.org [65.102.239.61]) by blue.centerone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24435 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:01:53 -0600 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020726164618.02d58e58@mail.centerone.com> X-Sender: rforsythe@mail.centerone.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:46:51 -0600 To: From: Ralph Forsythe Subject: RE: CRITICAL!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <002401c234f6$90848bc0$20fea8c0@ddd> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020726163606.02f73d60@mail.centerone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:48 PM 7/26/2002 -0400, George Ramos wrote: >This is the message that I am getting: > >ad4 hard error reading FSBN 12984895 of 0-111 etc... Is the 'ad4 hard error reading FSBN 12984895 of 0-111' part always the same, numerically? -rf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 26 16:58: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D0737B400 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (user38.net339.fl.sprint-hsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2BA43E65 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:58:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6QNvrO99948; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:57:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:57:53 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: Jason Woyak Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail queue problem Message-ID: <20020726235753.GC99749@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020726173048.00a102a0@dual03.skypoint.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020726173048.00a102a0@dual03.skypoint.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On or about Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 17:38 , while attempting a Zarathustra emulation Jason Woyak thus spake: > I work at a mid-sized ISP, and we've been having a problem > where if mail is queued to send to a server that isnt online > (or at least, isnt accepting mail), it sits and waits a long > time (several minutes) for the mail message to time out, all > the while /var/spool/mqueue is filling up (got up to ~5000 > messages this time).. is there some sort of setting i can make > so sendmail doesnt die? i've looked around about this but had > no luck.. its an older freebsd machine (this particular one > is 3.4-stable) running sendmail 8.10.1. any help is mucho > appreciated.. thanks I remember seeing slowness on older machines - and part was the ident timeout. All around mail performance improved when I went to a 4.x platform and sendmail in the 8.11 series. I'd suggest an OS and sendmail upgrade. I hated to do that to my old machine with an uptime of over 500 days - but it had to be done. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 27 5: 1:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F4237B400 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 05:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carmel.diva.nl (carmel.diva.nl [213.136.18.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E980443E42 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 05:01:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boland@carmel.diva.nl) Received: from localhost (boland@localhost) by carmel.diva.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RC11J50232; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:01:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from boland@carmel.diva.nl) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:01:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Michiel Boland To: freebsd@isot.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail won't send 2 domains in separte IP block In-Reply-To: <1027723037.3d41cf1d80e72@webmail.isot.com> Message-ID: <20020727135257.D50131-100000@carmel.diva.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > myname2@64.162.229.1 is not a valid e-mail address. If you want to mail to IP addresses, use bracket notation, e.g. myname2@[64.162.229.1] Cheers Michiel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 27 8:42: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEEC37B400 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 08:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9469243E3B for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 08:41:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from george@durham.net) Received: from cerberus.motorcity.on.ca ([65.95.185.80]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20020727153521.BJRQ11295.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@cerberus.motorcity.on.ca> for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:35:21 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cerberus.motorcity.on.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6REfbU97709 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:41:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george@durham.net) Received: from ddd ([192.168.254.32]) by cerberus.motorcity.on.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with SMTP id g6REfWD97699 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:41:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george@durham.net) Reply-To: From: "George Ramos" To: Subject: Hard drives keep dying.....loooking for some advice Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:38:13 -0400 Message-ID: <003c01c23583$a12d8ca0$20fea8c0@ddd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C23562.1A251460" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 ares.durham.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C23562.1A251460 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_003E_01C23562.1A3D7E60" ------=_NextPart_001_003E_01C23562.1A3D7E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is our main server and it is handling Web, DNS, mail, mail junk filter, virus scanning, etc On top of that, the environment where this server is located is rather warm...(not necessarily hot but warm). We can make the environment cooler (at a cost) but at this point we are not sure if the problem is mainly caused by heat or by overload (and of course possibly a combination of both, but we are not sure that heat is the issue because the server run fine until we added the new services.....) The situation seems to be "borderline", the last crash happend a few hours after we "re-enabled" the virus scanning routine (which we had disabled because of the previous crash.......) As a matter of fact, the server had been running very nicely for months untill we put in place the two new mail services (junk filter and virus scan) at which point hard drives started to die...... I mean, do drives get "substantially" hotter as the work load increases? Can anyone make any recommendations on drives? Any particular brand/model (IDE) that seems to tolerate heat better than others? Do 5400 RPM drives run cooler than 7200 or vice versa? Do 20 Gb H/D's run any cooler that 40 Gb's? We can use either) What else can we do to lessen the work load on these drives? Create a ramdrive? (The motherboard that we have will support 3 Gb's of DDR ram) Any ideas, thoughts, input would be greatly appreciated..... George Ramos Durham Net and Motor City Computers Please note that if you haven't E-mailed me in the past (and you think that there is a good reason for me to want to receive your E-mails, you must first send me an E-mail with the word wordone on the subject line, otherwise your E-mails will be rejected. I apologize for any inconvenience but given the amount of unsolicited E-mail that I used to receive I have had no choice but to take this measure. Best regards. ------=_NextPart_001_003E_01C23562.1A3D7E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
This is our main server and = it is=20 handling Web, DNS, mail, mail junk filter, virus scanning, = etc
On top of=20 that, the environment where this server is located is rather warm...(not = necessarily hot but warm). We can make the environment cooler (at a = cost) but at=20 this point we are not sure if the problem is mainly caused by heat or by = overload (and of course possibly a combination of both, but we are not = sure that=20 heat is the issue because the server run fine until we added the new=20 services.....)
The situation=20 seems to be "borderline", the last crash happend a few hours after we=20 "re-enabled" the virus scanning routine (which we had disabled because = of the=20 previous crash.......) As a matter of fact, the server had been running = very=20 nicely for months untill we put in place the two new mail services (junk = filter=20 and virus scan) at which point hard drives started to=20 die......
I = mean, do=20 drives get "substantially" hotter as the work load=20 increases?
Can anyone=20 make any recommendations on drives?
Any=20 particular brand/model (IDE) that seems to tolerate heat better than=20 others?
Do 5400 RPM=20 drives run cooler than 7200 or vice versa?
Do 20 Gb=20 H/D's run any cooler that 40 Gb's? We can use = either)
What else can=20 we do to lessen the work load on these drives?
Create a=20 ramdrive? (The motherboard that we have will support 3 Gb's of DDR=20 ram)
Any ideas,=20 thoughts, input would be greatly appreciated.....
 
 
George Ramos
Durham Net = and Motor=20 City Computers
Please note that if you haven't E-mailed me in the = past (and=20 you think that there is a good reason for me to want to receive your = E-mails,=20 you must first send me an E-mail with the word wordone on the subject = line,=20 otherwise your E-mails will be rejected. I apologize for any = inconvenience but=20 given the amount of unsolicited E-mail that I used to receive I have had = no=20 choice but to take this measure.
Best regards.
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Yes >Can anyone make any recommendations on drives? >Any particular brand/model (IDE) that seems to tolerate heat better than others? I have had good luck with all of the major brands - but I don't let them get real hot either. >Do 5400 RPM drives run cooler than 7200 or vice versa? Yes >Do 20 Gb H/D's run any cooler that 40 Gb's? We can use either) I do not think there is much difference >What else can we do to lessen the work load on these drives? >Create a ramdrive? (The motherboard that we have will support 3 Gb's of DDR ram) It would probably help >Any ideas, thoughts, input would be greatly appreciated..... The individual cooling fans for the drives work quite well for keeping the drives cool though the fans die fairly quickly. Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419) 833-3635 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 27 11:42: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4944137B400; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loquat.bbn.com (crodrigues.bbn.com [128.89.72.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7674043E31; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crodrigu@bbn.com) Received: (from crodrigu@localhost) by loquat.bbn.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g6RIg2O13071; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:42:02 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:42:02 -0400 From: Craig Rodrigues To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: SONET over PPP/IP for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20020727144202.A13067@bbn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Has anyone done any work or experiments to implement PPP/IP over SONET ( http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2615.txt )? I am interested in doing some experiments with SONET over regular Ethernet equipment instead of ATM. Thanks. -- Craig Rodrigues Distributed Systems and Logistics, Office 6/304 crodrigu@bbn.com BBN Technologies, a Verizon company (617) 873-4725 Cambridge, MA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 27 11:59:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A02B37B400 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C8C43E3B for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:59:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RIxGT53281; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:59:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:59:16 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: George Ramos Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hard drives keep dying.....loooking for some advice In-Reply-To: <003c01c23583$a12d8ca0$20fea8c0@ddd> Message-ID: <20020727124224.B50718-100000@ren.sasknow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org George Ramos wrote to freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG: > This is our main server and it is handling Web, DNS, mail, mail junk > filter, virus scanning, etc On top of that, the environment where > this server is located is rather warm...(not necessarily hot but > warm). Before moving to an air-conditioned office building, we used to have servers running continuously under load in 35C + temperatures. The worst that happened was fans dying every four or five months. We didn't take any special cooling precautions... most systems were just standard OEM builds. I'll say that I feel more comfortable in a controlled 21C environment (for the equipment as well as the staff :-). > We can make the environment cooler (at a cost) but at this point we > are not sure if the problem is mainly caused by heat or by overload > (and of course possibly a combination of both, but we are not sure > that heat is the issue because the server run fine until we added > the new services.....) Keep your equipment cool, yes, but read below. I would be very surprised if heat was (is) the only variable in this equation. > The situation seems to be "borderline", the last crash happend a few > hours after we "re-enabled" the virus scanning routine (which we had > disabled because of the previous crash.......) As a matter of fact, > the server had been running very nicely for months untill we put in > place the two new mail services (junk filter and virus scan) at > which point hard drives started to die...... I would hesitate to say that this is purely heat related. You're talking about 20GB and 40GB drives at 5.4K/7.2K RPM, so you're using IDE drives, which, in my experience, don't heat up that much. The drives would have to be getting *really* hot to fail this quickly, and with as much repeatability as you seem to be experiencing. Most of the time, heat just shortens the life of the equipment, and won't cause an abrupt failure. Check voltages. Regulate power. Check all of your *other* components (MB, controller, power supply, CPU) for signs of failure. Rule of thumb: if it burns your thumb when you touch it, it's too hot. :-) > I mean, do drives get "substantially" hotter as the work load > increases? Yes. > Can anyone make any recommendations on drives? Any particular > brand/model (IDE) that seems to tolerate heat better than others? I'm comfortable with all of the major brands. (WD, Maxtor, IBM, ...) > Do 5400 RPM drives run cooler than 7200 Yes. > Do 20 Gb H/D's run any cooler that 40 Gb's? We can use either) I don't really know. I wouldn't expect the 40GBs to run a *lot* hotter than the 20s, so the increased density might help you cool more efficiently. (For example, it's easier to cool one drive at 50C than it is to cool two drives at 45C (temperatures fictional :-)). > What else can we do to lessen the work load on these drives? Spread the load across a few machines. Analyse the performance of your applications. The drives may be working harder than necessary. Note that for some applications, SCSI can handle a higher load much more efficiently. If you make regular backups, or your data is not extremely critical, RAID 0 (striping) might improve performance (and decrease load). But, before running through hoops to optimize your system, try running it on a different system to help rule out flaky hardware. - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com 901 1st Avenue North - Saskatoon, SK - S7K 1Y4 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-244-7037 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 27 12:34:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C3837B400; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74EC43E6A; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 12:34:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 17YWN0-0002QM-00; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:32:50 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:32:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Craig Rodrigues Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SONET over PPP/IP for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <20020727144202.A13067@bbn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone done any work or experiments to implement > PPP/IP over SONET ( http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2615.txt )? I don't know if there are any SONET interfaces available for use. > I am interested in doing some experiments with SONET over > regular Ethernet equipment instead of ATM. That seems strange. Can you really encapsulate SONET in ethernet frames? Or, do you somehow want to utilize an specially programmed ethernet NIC to generate SONET framing? I know the 10GbE standard as an option supports ethernet encapsulated inside a simplified SONET transport. > Thanks. > -- > Craig Rodrigues Distributed Systems and Logistics, Office 6/304 > crodrigu@bbn.com BBN Technologies, a Verizon company > (617) 873-4725 Cambridge, MA Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 27 14:22:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BD337B400 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0B643E4A for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 14:22:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6RLMHU66186; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:22:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:22:17 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: George Ramos Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Hard drives keep dying.....loooking for some advice In-Reply-To: <005501c235ad$7f954ae0$20fea8c0@ddd> Message-ID: <20020727143804.O61380-100000@ren.sasknow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org George Ramos wrote to 'Ryan Thompson': > WOW Ryan, you are a nice guy!! You really went out of your way to > explain things, I REALLY appreciate it. Not a problem. I help where I can. :-) > Let me answer some of your welcomed comments. > > I agree with you that there is more in play than temperature here. > Exactly what are you referring to when you say: "Check voltages. > Regulate power."? A common cause of apparent failures is irregular power. If your equipment is not getting consistent power within a few volts of spec, you might see these sorts of problems. You should have your equipment connected to a line-interactive UPS (battery backup that also flattens out power peaks and dips to ensure continuous clean power). You should also check the voltages received by your motherboard to ensure that they meet the +/-{5,12}V specs, to rule out flaky power supplies. Re-check connections/seatings inside the case as well. > What should I be doing? > > We have not only replaced components, we have SWAPPED ENTIRE > servers, so I don't think that the problem is related to other > components, we are actually talking about two servers here, both > with the same effect...... Ok. Make sure you also try different hardware. You might be running into subtle compatibility issues with the components you are using on multiple systems. Many a time I have seen people say "I've tried *everything*", but are still using two boards with the same flaky chipset on both machines, for instance. In other words, don't use another identical {controller|board|RAM|...}, try it on a completely different hardware configuration. Even on crappy hardware, your application might be slow as hell, but it shouldn't crash stable hardware. > As far as the applications go, the problem started when we put on > line our new virus scanner application (Amavis/McAffee). I guess it > is possible that my problem could be due to all the "new" extra work > that the server is doing...... If there is indeed a definite corelation there, then you'll really need to track down what the software is doing differently with your system. That being said, software can't destroy hardware, but it *can* excarbate already-failing hardware if it produces excessive load. Without knowing what your developing skills are, I would just suggest monitoring your run queue, open file descriptors, reads/writes per second, etc. Check logs. Record crash output (if the system ever panics). > I wish I could spread the load but we are running in a very tight > space and I can't add anymore servers where I'm at. Furthermore, > adding more equipment would worsen the temperature issue...... Hmm... For temperature, determine if things really *are* heating up. Pop the cover while it's running under load, and see if anything is too hot to touch. Just be careful doing this. > The only other servers that I have in there are a gatekeeper and a > Frontpage server (a windows PC). I guess we could make the Frontpage > server a BSD server, move a couple of the services from the main > server to it and make Frontpage run under BSD (that way I would be > able to move a couple of services over.....) What do you think? > (We've never set up MS-Frontpage on a BSD box but I think it's > doable....) Definitely doable. How much mail (size, as well as number of messages) are you processing? You'd have to be scanning a *lot* of messages to make that much of a difference (multiple messages per second), I would think. Hope this helps, - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com 901 1st Avenue North - Saskatoon, SK - S7K 1Y4 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-244-7037 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 27 15: 7:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37E337B400 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pendragon.tacni.net (radius.tacni.net [64.247.218.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35E4843E42 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:07:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom.oneil@tacni.com) Received: (qmail 19740 invoked by uid 85); 27 Jul 2002 22:07:50 -0000 Received: from tom.oneil@tacni.com by pendragon.tacni.net by uid 81 with qmail-scanner-1.11 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4200. . Clear:. Processed in 0.641296 secs); 27 Jul 2002 22:07:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tacni.com) (66.169.172.133) by pendragon.tacni.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 2002 22:07:49 -0000 Message-ID: <3D4319A3.64B7F9E9@tacni.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 17:07:31 -0500 From: Tom ONeil Organization: TACNI/ ColocateUSA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hard drives keep dying.....loooking for some advice References: <20020727143804.O61380-100000@ren.sasknow.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This sounds a lot like a power supply problem I had once. Burned a drive & fan back to back about a week or so after I added 2 drives. Replaced with new a new, top quality one and it's been fine ever since. -- Thomas ONeil tom.oneil@tacni.com If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. - Henry David Thoreau To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message