From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Sep 15 7:26:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94D437B401 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.inf.ufsc.br (terra.inf.ufsc.br [150.162.60.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940F643E42 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:26:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maianeto@inf.ufsc.br) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terra.inf.ufsc.br (Departamento de Informatica e Estatistica (INE/CTC/UFSC)) with ESMTP id 8504B1597F for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:37:00 -0300 (BRT) Received: from screammer (inf185.inf.ufsc.br [150.162.60.185]) by terra.inf.ufsc.br (Departamento de Informatica e Estatistica (INE/CTC/UFSC)) with ESMTP id 7070317889 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:36:56 -0300 (BRT) From: "Luiz Rodrigues Maia Neto" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:40:16 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: subscribe Reply-To: maianeto@inf.ufsc.br Message-ID: <3F65A520.14652.903DF31@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre5 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe maianeto@inf.ufsc.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 16 4:42:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E9D37B400 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 04:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (voyager.psknet.com [63.171.251.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CDB343E6E for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 04:42:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: (qmail 69550 invoked by uid 85); 16 Sep 2002 11:26:41 -0000 Received: from troy@psknet.com by voyager.psknet.com with qmail-scanner-1.02 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4100. . Clean. Processed in 0.541518 secs); 16 Sep 2002 11:26:41 -0000 Received: from rad-va-21-pc-38.cablenet-va.com (HELO abyss) (asshole@24.197.21.38) by voyager.psknet.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 11:26:40 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: tinydns / dnscache Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 07:43:04 -0400 Message-ID: <002401c25d76$3914e530$921bc518@psknet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I installed djbdns from ports, and I'm trying to get dnscache working, but am having a problem doing so. It works fine on 127.0.0.1, but not on the IP bound to my outside interface. Nothing shows up in the logs. Both nslookup and dnsquery time out. Works: dnscache-conf nobody nobody /services/dnscache 127.0.0.1 Doesn't work: dnscache-conf nobody nobody /services/dnscache 63.171.251.200 I have verified that named isn't running, and that nothing else is using the port. Any help? -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 http://www.psknet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 16 4:53:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB5037B400 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 04:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD2C43E3B for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 04:53:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from house (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g8GBrOd0081633; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 07:53:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: isp-unix@isp-unix.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UNIX top and vmstat command problems Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 07:55:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4khbouoifmvcm0eiek1m1th5hj3ac2m3bi@4ax.com> References: <009001c25bae$104268e0$1cf6a5ca@proxy1> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:57:57 +0000 (GMT), in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: >On Sat, 14 Sep 2002, Masood wrote: >> I'm running the FreeBSD with the kernel which is comes by default with >> FreeBSD. >> >> so it's running on some system and on some system it's displaying the >> message as I had mentioned. > >> > > gulsher# top >> > > top: nlist failed >> > > gulsher# > >> > > vmstat: undefined symbols: >> > > _kmemstatistics _bucket _zlist >> > > gulsher# > >Congradulations -- you've been rooted. It could also mean that he booted without using loader and just went straight to boot. Doing that you would see the above two symptons. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) =09 Sentex Communications Corp, =09 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers=20 could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 16 6:22:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507A737B400 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 06:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (voyager.psknet.com [63.171.251.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7772843E72 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 06:22:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: (qmail 89932 invoked by uid 85); 16 Sep 2002 13:06:18 -0000 Received: from troy@psknet.com by voyager.psknet.com with qmail-scanner-1.02 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4100. . Clean. Processed in 0.479691 secs); 16 Sep 2002 13:06:18 -0000 Received: from rad-va-21-pc-38.cablenet-va.com (HELO abyss) (asshole@24.197.21.38) by voyager.psknet.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 13:06:17 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "'Robert Bopko'" Cc: Subject: RE: tinydns / dnscache Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:22:44 -0400 Message-ID: <002701c25d84$248afd30$921bc518@psknet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020916120547.GL18700@dry.69.sk> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I did read this page before, but didn't see the appropriate line for some reason. I suppose that this is what happens when I try to perform technical stuff before my 4th cup of coffee. Thanks, -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 http://www.psknet.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Bopko [mailto:zero@estimese.net] > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 8:06 AM > To: Troy Settle > Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: tinydns / dnscache > > > hi troy, > > take a look at: > http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/dnscache.html dnscache accepts a packet or connection from IP address 1.2.3.4 if it sees a file named ip/1.2.3.4 or ip/1.2.3 or ip/1.2 or ip/1. bye. On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 07:43:04AM -0400, Troy Settle wrote: > > I installed djbdns from ports, and I'm trying to get dnscache working, > but am having a problem doing so. It works fine on 127.0.0.1, but not > on the IP bound to my outside interface. Nothing shows up in the logs. > Both nslookup and dnsquery time out. > > Works: > > dnscache-conf nobody nobody /services/dnscache 127.0.0.1 > > Doesn't work: > > dnscache-conf nobody nobody /services/dnscache 63.171.251.200 > > > I have verified that named isn't running, and that nothing else is using > the port. > > Any help? > > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 > http://www.psknet.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 16 6:35: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBFF37B400 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 06:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts17.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D9443E72 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 06:35:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from derek@durham.net) Received: from cerberus.motorcity.on.ca ([65.95.185.80]) by tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20020916133505.UOEJ3718.tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net@cerberus.motorcity.on.ca>; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:35:05 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by cerberus.motorcity.on.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8GCjpP60247; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:45:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from derek@durham.net) Received: from DEVELOPMENT ([192.168.254.4]) by cerberus.motorcity.on.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with SMTP id g8GCjkD60239; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:45:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from derek@durham.net) Message-ID: <003a01c25d86$267c8210$04fea8c0@motorcity.on.ca> From: "Derek" To: , References: Subject: Re: nat & load balancing Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:37:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 ares.durham.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > there are a lot of nat samples which show how to reverse proxy over > a farm of web servers but i have some difficulties in getting a sample to > work which nat outgoing traffic to the 2 isp's ip assignments, balancing > them. You definately would. If this is what you intend to do, I would suggest something like BGP, and dynamic routing, vs. what we've described. It is designed to do just what you are describing. Here's why NAT won't work: ---DSL FROM ISP1> 206.186.2.1 - BSD NAT - Webfarm 10/8 ---DSL FROM ISP2> 142.55.33.5 / Now suppose your DNS is www.mywebfarm.com -> 142.55.33.5 Any request to www.mywebfarm.com will _always_ go through ISP2, because they have the route to 142.55.33.5. When it fails, DNS is too slow to automatically switch to 206.186.2.1. In a BGP setup you would have: Now suppose your DNS is www.mywebfarm.com -> (Purchased Subnet) ---DSL FROM ISP1> 206.186.2.1 - router (Purchased Subnet) - Webfarm (Purchased Subnet) ---DSL FROM ISP2> 142.55.33.5 / when ISP1 fails, the router will modify the BGP routing table to announce all traffic to the Purchased subnet to travel through ISP2. In my initial post: > It could be done easily... you are not doing port > forwarding (ie, hosting a web server)... Derek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 16 9:54:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941E037B406 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vreme.yubc.net (vreme.yubc.net [212.124.160.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C8843E6E for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:54:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ssgrr2003w@rti7020.etf.bg.ac.yu) Received: (from root@localhost) by vreme.yubc.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8GGwYb19605 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:58:34 +0200 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:58:34 +0200 From: ssgrr2003w@rti7020.etf.bg.ac.yu Message-Id: <200209161658.g8GGwYb19605@vreme.yubc.net> Subject: Invitation to SSGRR conferences in ITALY! To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org CALL FOR PAPERS AND PARTICIPATION AT SSGRR CONFERENCES IN YEAR 2003 The SSGRR (Scuola Superiore G Reiss Romoli) Congress Center, Telecom Italia Learning Services, L'Aquila (near Rome), ITALY (www.ssgrr.it). Respected Dr. We are honored to invite you to submit and present your paper(s) at the two SSGRR conferences specified below: INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCES ON ADVANCES IN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ELECTRONIC BUSINESS, EDUCATION, SCIENCE, MEDICINE, AND MOBILE TECHNOLOGIES ON THE INTERNET WINTER Conference 2003: >From Monday January 6 at 5pm till Sunday January 12 at 10am To submit paper or ask questions: ssgrr2003w@rti7020.etf.bg.ac.yu Keynotes: Lyman (Berkeley), Neuhold (Fraunhofer), Neal (Tufts Medical School), ... SUMMER Conference 2003: >From Monday July 28 at 5pm till Sunday August 3 at 10am To submit paper or ask questions: ssgrr2003s@rti7020.etf.bg.ac.yu Keynotes: Kroto (Nobel Laureate), Patt (IEEE Eckert-Mauchly Laureate), Carlton (US Air Force Surgeon General), ... For details, see IEEE COMPUTER, Aug 2002 (page 33) and the WWW site www.ssgrr.it (written carefully+precisely, with answers to all FAQ). Check with past participants (their names/emails are on the WWW). Most of them believe this is the most interesting, rewarding, and definitely the most hospitable conference they ever attended! Fast professional and peer review in 15 days. Capacity of the SSGRR congress center is 200 participants. The list of participants will be closed after 200 papers accepted. Consequently, SUBMIT YOUR PAPER(S) AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE! ______________________________________________________________________ Location (see WWW for details): SSGRR is the DE-LUX congress and education center of the Telecom Italia Learning Services, located about 60 miles from Rome, near Gran Sasso (the highest Appenini peak), with fast access to the major Appenini ski resorts (in winters, 15 minutes by car), and Adriatic sea beaches (in summers, 45 minutes by car). Keynotes (see WWW for details): A Nobel Laureate was the keynote speaker each year in the past (Jerome Friedman of MIT, Robert Richardson of Cornell, etc...), and the major 2003 keynote is also reserved for a Nobel Laureate (Harry Kroto from United Kingdom). Other 2003 keynote speakers are Yale Patt from UofTexas@Austin (an IEEE Eckert-Mauchly Laureate), Paul Carlton (US Air Force Surgeon General), etc. Schedule (see WWW for details): Monday = Arrival day, registration, and cocktail Tuesday = Gran Sasso Nat'l Lab tour, tutorials, and opening ceremony Wednesday/Thursday/Friday = Presentation of research papers Saturday = Tutorials and peripathetic discussions Sunday = Departure day Deadlines (see WWW for details): For title and abstract (about 100 words): October 15, 2002 (for Winter 2003) April 30, 2003 (for Summer 2003) For papers (IEEE Transactions format, min 4 pages, max 1MB): November 15, 2002 (for Winter 2003) May 30, 2003 (for Summer 2003) For payment (stay, and fee if applicable): December 10, 2002 (for Winter 2003) June 30, 2003 (for Summer 2003) Payment (see WWW for details): No conference fee for those with papers to present (others: euro600). No fee for tutorials. All participants must stay inside SSGRR (no outside stays allowed). Full 6-day stay (from Monday evening till Sunday breakfast): euro1200. A 5-day stay (without one tutorial day): euro1000. Minimal 4-day stay (for research papers only): euro 800. Favourable conditions for accompanying persons (see the WWW). For late payment rules see the WWW. Important (see WWW for details): When submitting your paper, insert the 3-letter field code (exact codes on WWW), so the placement of papers per sessions is more efficient. Insert your WWW site URL (if you have one). If you submit a paper, you will get 2 other papers for a fast review (in up to 10 days). Your presentation time is 25 minutes, plus 5 minutes for discussions. Chairman of the session is the presenter of the last paper in that session. Moving of presentation slots is not permitted (in cases of non-show-up). If you like to be reinvited for a future SSGRR conference, let us know. If you like to be removed from the list, please let us know, too. WE HOPE TO SEE YOU AT SSGRR! Professor Veljko Milutinovic, General Chairman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 16 17: 5:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C583437B400 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irc.dagupan.com (irc.dagupan.com [202.91.161.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3B743E6A for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:05:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francisv-dated-1032653145.e6b21d@irc.dagupan.com) Received: from irc.dagupan.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by irc.dagupan.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CDD460 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:05:45 +0800 (PHT) To: Subject: RE: tinydns / dnscache Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:05:44 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C6A6@mailserver.dagupan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002401c25d76$3914e530$921bc518@psknet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: Francis Vidal X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.58 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You have to explicitly allow the IPs you want dnscache to serve: touch /service/dnscache/root/ip/63.171.251 allows all 63.171.251.0/24 to connect to the dnscache service but you also need to make dnscache listen on the public interface, 63.171.251.200. -----Original Message----- From: Troy Settle [mailto:troy@psknet.com] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 7:43 PM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: tinydns / dnscache I installed djbdns from ports, and I'm trying to get dnscache working, but am having a problem doing so. It works fine on 127.0.0.1, but not on the IP bound to my outside interface. Nothing shows up in the logs. Both nslookup and dnsquery time out. Works: dnscache-conf nobody nobody /services/dnscache 127.0.0.1 Doesn't work: dnscache-conf nobody nobody /services/dnscache 63.171.251.200 I have verified that named isn't running, and that nothing else is using the port. Any help? -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 http://www.psknet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 16 21:20:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE1037B400 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.arc.net.my (nagano.arc.net.my [203.115.225.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE9C43E72 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@arc.net.my) Received: from roponggi (roppongi.arc.net.my [203.115.225.83]) by mail.arc.net.my (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0H2K004VJEQAD2@mail.arc.net.my> for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:20:34 +0800 (SGT) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:21:34 +0800 From: Nick Kraal Subject: IPv6 on FreeBSD To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Nick Kraal Message-id: <006f01c25e01$b526eac0$53e173cb@arc.net.my> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0001 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0001 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C6A6@mailserver.dagupan.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to implement a simple IPv6 gateway on FreeBSD. This box has three interfaces xl0,ep1 and gif0. xl0 is connected to a v4 network and runs fine. gif0 is a IPv4 tunneled interface to the existing IPv6 router. The ep1 interface is to a switch where I am trying to construct a pure IPv6 network 2001:FFFF:B405:2::/64. IPv6 connectivity from the box seems to be working fine but I am a bit stuck on the RA portion running on interface ep1. Can this work or must I install Zebra. Any ideas/hints/pointers will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -nick/ ...from the IPv6 router: ipv6 route 2001:FFFF:B405::/48 Tunnel 5 ...from /etc/rc.conf # ---IPv6 router config--- ipv6_enable="YES" ipv6_static_routes="default" ipv6_route_default="default -interface gif0" ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" ipv6_network_interfaces="xl0 ep1" ipv6_prefix_xl0="2001:FFFF:B405:1 prefixlen 64" ipv6_prefix_ep1="2001:FFFF:B405:2 prefixlen 64" gif_interfaces="gif0" prefixcmd="YES" rtadvd_enable="YES" rtadvd_interfaces="ep1" gifconfig_gif0="200.100.200.110 200.100.220.12" ifconifg_xl0_alias0="2001:FFFF:B405:1::1 prefixlen 64" ifconifg_ep1_alias0="2001:FFFF:B405:2::1 prefixlen 64" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 1: 4:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22C137B401 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.arc.net.my (nagano.arc.net.my [203.115.225.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9064B43E6A for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@arc.net.my) Received: from roponggi (roppongi.arc.net.my [203.115.225.83]) by mail.arc.net.my (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0H2K005AZP2PZZ@mail.arc.net.my> for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:04:01 +0800 (SGT) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:04:51 +0800 From: Nick Kraal Subject: startup/rc script To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Nick Kraal Message-id: <00c001c25e20$e6044880$53e173cb@arc.net.my> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0001 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0001 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C6A6@mailserver.dagupan.com> <006f01c25e01$b526eac0$53e173cb@arc.net.my> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So I have written a small shell script with start|stop|reload cases and placed this in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. How do I actually call this script during boot and shutdown? Thanks. -nick/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 1:45:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EA437B401 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from argus.volker.de (pD900DFBF.dip.t-dialin.net [217.0.223.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BB643E42 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 01:45:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@secspace.de) Received: from argus.volker.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argus.volker.de (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id g8H8jcuu056143 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:45:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@secspace.de) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:45:38 +0200 From: Volker Kindermann To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: startup/rc script Message-Id: <20020917104538.67db76e8.freebsd@secspace.de> In-Reply-To: <00c001c25e20$e6044880$53e173cb@arc.net.my> References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C6A6@mailserver.dagupan.com> <006f01c25e01$b526eac0$53e173cb@arc.net.my> <00c001c25e20$e6044880$53e173cb@arc.net.my> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > So I have written a small shell script with start|stop|reload cases > and placed this in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. How do I actually call this > script during boot and shutdown? give it a name ending in .sh and make it executable. Then it will be started automagically by FreeBSD. :-) -volker -- Please don't cc me: I read the lists and don't need your message twice :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 2: 7:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0278D37B404 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 02:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sanyu1.sanyutel.com (mail.one2net.co.ug [216.250.215.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4A043E7B for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 02:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ziggy@one2net.co.ug) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sanyu1.sanyutel.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D869D1461CA; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:05:36 +0300 (EAT) Received: from mark2 (g-class.sanyutel.com [216.250.215.27]) by sanyu1.sanyutel.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 88FB9146262; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:05:30 +0300 (EAT) Reply-To: From: "David Lubowa" To: "Nick Kraal" , Subject: RE: startup/rc script Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:09:31 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 In-Reply-To: <00c001c25e20$e6044880$53e173cb@arc.net.my> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre5 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org thats the right place just make sure it is executable ..thats all !!! cheers David Ziggy Lubowa Network Administrator One2net (U) web: www.one2net.co.ug Tel: +256 41 345466 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Nick Kraal Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:05 AM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: startup/rc script So I have written a small shell script with start|stop|reload cases and placed this in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. How do I actually call this script during boot and shutdown? Thanks. -nick/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 3:51:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255A737B401 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.arc.net.my (nagano.arc.net.my [203.115.225.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A01C43E6A for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:51:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@arc.net.my) Received: from roponggi (roppongi.arc.net.my [203.115.225.83]) by mail.arc.net.my (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0H2K006NZWTIU6@mail.arc.net.my> for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:51:18 +0800 (SGT) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:51:53 +0800 From: Nick Kraal Subject: Re: startup/rc script To: "Mantas S." , David Lubowa , Volker Kindermann Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Nick Kraal Message-id: <011c01c25e38$3ba5db20$53e173cb@arc.net.my> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0001 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0001 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C6A6@mailserver.dagupan.com> <006f01c25e01$b526eac0$53e173cb@arc.net.my> <00c001c25e20$e6044880$53e173cb@arc.net.my> <8725264562.20020917111320@mantas.lt> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org thanks. brilliant works like a charm. the docs were not so clear on this. -nick/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 5:59:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D88E37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 05:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (voyager.psknet.com [63.171.251.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66B8C43E6E for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 05:59:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: (qmail 55170 invoked by uid 85); 17 Sep 2002 12:43:29 -0000 Received: from troy@psknet.com by voyager.psknet.com with qmail-scanner-1.02 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4100. . Clean. Processed in 0.732963 secs); 17 Sep 2002 12:43:29 -0000 Received: from rad-va-21-pc-38.cablenet-va.com (HELO abyss) (asshole@24.197.21.38) by voyager.psknet.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 12:43:28 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "'Ralph Huntington'" Cc: "'Drew Tomlinson'" , Subject: RE: Fw: FrontPage 2002 Extensions Help Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:00:10 -0400 Message-ID: <002101c25e4a$286bf5f0$2615c518@psknet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020831121608.I33915-100000@mohegan.mohawk.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Drew, I too have had nothing but trouble getting Apache/mod_ssl/frontpage working. I can get apache+mod_ssl, or apache+frontpage working, but not all 3. However, from what you posted, I'd say that your errors are the result of a configuration error. Ralph, Are you saying that you got all 3 to work together? If so, how did you do it? Do you have some notes that you could share? -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 http://www.psknet.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Ralph Huntington > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 12:21 PM > To: Andre Hall > Cc: Drew Tomlinson; isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Fw: FrontPage 2002 Extensions Help > > > Actually, Frontpage extensions work fine on FreeBSD. We've > been doing it > for years for our hosting and colo business. The extensions > want apache > 1.3.19, but it can be hacked to use any recent version. We use 1.3.26. > > I don't know what Drew's problem is or I would have offered > something. We > build it all from sources in order to get the exact > arrangement we want. > But I do know that, correctly installed, fp2002 extensions > work fine with > fbsd. > > Ralph > > On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, Andre Hall wrote: > > > Drew, > > > > Althought I wouln't suggest using M$'s Frontpage > Extensions on your > > FreeBSD box I will direct you to a site that might beable to help. > > http://www.rtr.com/fpsupport/ > > Once upon a time I needed run them as well and this site helped me a > > great deal. Good Luck. > > > > > > > I originally sent the following to questions but have not received > > any > > > suggestions as of yet. I'm hoping maybe someone here has > had similar > > > difficulties and knows what I need to do to get things working. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Drew > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Drew Tomlinson" > > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:37 PM > > > > > > > > > > I have the following configuration running on 4.5: > > > > > > > > apache+mod_ssl-1.3.26+2.8.10 > > > > frontpage-5.0.2.2623_1 > > > > mod_frontpage-1.6.2 > > > > > > > > I've fiddled with this for most of the day but can't > seem to get it > > > > working. I've wiped everything out and started from scratch but > > > > continue to get the following error in httpd-error.log: > > > > > > > > [Fri Aug 30 18:01:08 2002] [error] [client 192.168.1.3] server > > > > configuration did not require authentication: > > > > /usr/local/www/data/_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.exe > > > > [2002-08-30 18:01:08]: uid: (nobody/nobody) gid: > (nogroup/nogroup) > > > cmd: > > > > /_vti_bin/shtml.exe > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this or where > to request > > > > additional help? I've been all over microsoft.com and > rtr.com but > > > > haven't found any help for my situation. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Drew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > > NeoMail - Webmail that doesn't suck... as much. > > http://neomail.sourceforge.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 6:19:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7D937B401 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 06:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net (web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net [206.47.131.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B5AE143E3B for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 06:19:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@hawk-systems.com) Received: (qmail 55038 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2002 13:19:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1) (24.157.103.51) by web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 13:19:09 -0000 From: "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" To: "Troy Settle" , "'Ralph Huntington'" Cc: "'Drew Tomlinson'" , Subject: RE: Fw: FrontPage 2002 Extensions Help Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:19:06 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002101c25e4a$286bf5f0$2615c518@psknet.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I too have had nothing but trouble getting Apache/mod_ssl/frontpage >working. I can get apache+mod_ssl, or apache+frontpage working, but not >all 3. However, from what you posted, I'd say that your errors are the >result of a configuration error. > >Ralph, > >Are you saying that you got all 3 to work together? If so, how did you >do it? Do you have some notes that you could share? > We did this with 4.3 stable about a year ago... I don't know if things have changed with recent versions, but I remember having to essentially patch all the files manually, and spend a few days tinkering to get it to work stable enough to host the one client we initilly installed it for. End result is FPX wasn't stable enough for me to recommend it for anyone else on our servers. Recommended they look for existing NT box and NT tech with their next competitor acquisition... Let that box crash and burn, and that tech worry about it. I do wish that the apache-fp port was a little more inclusive of some of the other "mandatory" additions for hosting without hacking the patches all to pieces. In the meantime, recommend let MS people host on an MS server... at least then we can include a disclaimer for relibility purposes on those boxes. If this has changed recently, MAY be willing to give it another go on a spare box. Anything over and hour to fiddle with though just isn't worth it IMO. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 6:22: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF31937B401 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 06:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (floyd.gnulife.org [199.86.41.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E14443E3B for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 06:22:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DEDE0432F2; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:02:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3A2432EE for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:02:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:02:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Billy Joe Jim Bob To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: [OT] FreeBSD from Scratch? Message-ID: <20020917085931.A21655-100000@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I ran into an interesting site last week. It's www.linuxfromscratch.org. It takes you through a buildup of a Linux system that you can do yourself, and I have learned a lot about the general architecture of Linux from it. I am interested in finding something similiar for FreeBSD though. Is anyone aware of a FreeBSD buildup site that tells you how to set it up without the installer? - Jamie "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." - Walt Disney To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 6:29:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E0C37B40C for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 06:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (voyager.psknet.com [63.171.251.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D4D243E72 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 06:29:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: (qmail 62014 invoked by uid 85); 17 Sep 2002 13:13:33 -0000 Received: from troy@psknet.com by voyager.psknet.com with qmail-scanner-1.02 (uvscan: v4.1.40/v4100. . Clean. Processed in 0.553893 secs); 17 Sep 2002 13:13:33 -0000 Received: from rad-va-21-pc-38.cablenet-va.com (HELO abyss) (asshole@24.197.21.38) by voyager.psknet.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 13:13:32 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "'Dave [Hawk-Systems]'" , "'Ralph Huntington'" Cc: "'Drew Tomlinson'" , Subject: RE: Fw: FrontPage 2002 Extensions Help Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:30:15 -0400 Message-ID: <004b01c25e4e$5be37ad0$2615c518@psknet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For nearly 6 years now, I've had Apache+SSL+FP running without issue. The last box I built was nearly 2 years ago, and has been in production ever since: Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_perl/1.24 PHP/4.0.4 FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 Needless to say, I'm desperate to get this thing upgraded. But over the last 2 months, I've patched, built, fiddled, scrubed, patched, built, fiddled, and fiddled some more. I'm blue in the face over this, and I've given up on the bastard configuration. I too have thought about setting up a Win2k box to host FP sites. Reliability isn't an issue, my Win2k boxes are as reliable as my FreeBSD boxes (both would stay up for years at a time if I wanted). No, my problem with Win2k web servers is security. I'm getting very close to scrap the whole hosting thing, and find someone else to provide such services for my customers. With as few sites as I have, it's not profitable anyways. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 http://www.psknet.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Dave > [Hawk-Systems] > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:19 AM > To: Troy Settle; 'Ralph Huntington' > Cc: 'Drew Tomlinson'; isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Fw: FrontPage 2002 Extensions Help > > > >I too have had nothing but trouble getting Apache/mod_ssl/frontpage > >working. I can get apache+mod_ssl, or apache+frontpage > working, but not > >all 3. However, from what you posted, I'd say that your > errors are the > >result of a configuration error. > > > >Ralph, > > > >Are you saying that you got all 3 to work together? If so, > how did you > >do it? Do you have some notes that you could share? > > > > We did this with 4.3 stable about a year ago... I don't know > if things have > changed with recent versions, but I remember having to > essentially patch all the > files manually, and spend a few days tinkering to get it to > work stable enough > to host the one client we initilly installed it for. > > End result is FPX wasn't stable enough for me to recommend it > for anyone else on > our servers. Recommended they look for existing NT box and > NT tech with their > next competitor acquisition... Let that box crash and burn, > and that tech worry > about it. > > I do wish that the apache-fp port was a little more inclusive > of some of the > other "mandatory" additions for hosting without hacking the > patches all to > pieces. In the meantime, recommend let MS people host on an > MS server... at > least then we can include a disclaimer for relibility > purposes on those boxes. > > If this has changed recently, MAY be willing to give it > another go on a spare > box. Anything over and hour to fiddle with though just isn't > worth it IMO. > > Dave > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 8:25:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA00A37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mohegan.mohawk.net (mohegan.mohawk.net [63.66.68.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3894243E65 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:25:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjh@mohawk.net) Received: from mail.mohawk.net (mail.mohawk.net [63.66.68.12]) by mohegan.mohawk.net (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g8HFPeo43600; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:25:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Ralph Huntington To: Troy Settle Cc: "'Dave [Hawk-Systems]'" , "'Drew Tomlinson'" , Subject: RE: Fw: FrontPage 2002 Extensions Help In-Reply-To: <004b01c25e4e$5be37ad0$2615c518@psknet.com> Message-ID: <20020917110955.U87107-100000@mohegan.mohawk.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Folks, Everyone can relax about FP. It's a huge pain in the okole to deal with, but I have it down and it's really quite easy (no kidding). Oh yes, it took me quite some time and aggravation to get it working, but it does work and can even be used with Apache 1.3.26, amazingly enough. I did have to hand-patch to get it working with 1.3.26, but that was just a matter of eye-balling the nearby lines to find the actual text, since they don't line up after 1.3.19. And, oh yes, Microsoft's installer has to be patched or it won't let you use 1.3.26. There's nothing magic about 1.3.19, it's just that MS's installer specifies it, so it has to be reworked. Here is what I regularly build on FreeBSD (you could just as well use a later PHP and just about any version of FreeBSD): [Tue Sep 17 00:00:14 2002] [notice] Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.1.2 FrontPage/5.0.2.2623 mod_ssl/2.8.10 OpenSSL/0.9.6e configured -- resuming normal operations Anyway, I'm pretty swamped this week with pressing items, but I will put together a port for you. BTW, I do not build this using the FBSD port system (which I do use for many other programs). I build this from sources only. That way you get to control every aspect of the build. Hmmm... instead of taking the time to build a port or a package, maybe I'll just post the patches and a list of instructions. That should do it. Look for that later today or write to me if you have an urgent situation. Ralph On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Troy Settle wrote: > > For nearly 6 years now, I've had Apache+SSL+FP running without issue. > The last box I built was nearly 2 years ago, and has been in production > ever since: > > Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_perl/1.24 PHP/4.0.4 > FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 > > Needless to say, I'm desperate to get this thing upgraded. But over the > last 2 months, I've patched, built, fiddled, scrubed, patched, built, > fiddled, and fiddled some more. I'm blue in the face over this, and > I've given up on the bastard configuration. > > I too have thought about setting up a Win2k box to host FP sites. > Reliability isn't an issue, my Win2k boxes are as reliable as my FreeBSD > boxes (both would stay up for years at a time if I wanted). No, my > problem with Win2k web servers is security. > > I'm getting very close to scrap the whole hosting thing, and find > someone else to provide such services for my customers. With as few > sites as I have, it's not profitable anyways. > > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > 540.994.4254 - 866.477.5638 > http://www.psknet.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Dave > > [Hawk-Systems] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:19 AM > > To: Troy Settle; 'Ralph Huntington' > > Cc: 'Drew Tomlinson'; isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: RE: Fw: FrontPage 2002 Extensions Help > > > > > > >I too have had nothing but trouble getting Apache/mod_ssl/frontpage > > >working. I can get apache+mod_ssl, or apache+frontpage > > working, but not > > >all 3. However, from what you posted, I'd say that your > > errors are the > > >result of a configuration error. > > > > > >Ralph, > > > > > >Are you saying that you got all 3 to work together? If so, > > how did you > > >do it? Do you have some notes that you could share? > > > > > > > We did this with 4.3 stable about a year ago... I don't know > > if things have > > changed with recent versions, but I remember having to > > essentially patch all the > > files manually, and spend a few days tinkering to get it to > > work stable enough > > to host the one client we initilly installed it for. > > > > End result is FPX wasn't stable enough for me to recommend it > > for anyone else on > > our servers. Recommended they look for existing NT box and > > NT tech with their > > next competitor acquisition... Let that box crash and burn, > > and that tech worry > > about it. > > > > I do wish that the apache-fp port was a little more inclusive > > of some of the > > other "mandatory" additions for hosting without hacking the > > patches all to > > pieces. In the meantime, recommend let MS people host on an > > MS server... at > > least then we can include a disclaimer for relibility > > purposes on those boxes. > > > > If this has changed recently, MAY be willing to give it > > another go on a spare > > box. Anything over and hour to fiddle with though just isn't > > worth it IMO. > > > > Dave > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 12:55: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F2837B401; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.yazzy.org (mail.wrs.no [80.232.16.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEC443E75; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:55:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yazzy@yazzy.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.yazzy.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A9A64393D8; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 23:01:54 +0200 (CEST) Subject: HighPoint Rocket 133 on > 4.4 From: Marcin Jessa To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200209161658.g8GGwYb19605@vreme.yubc.net> References: <200209161658.g8GGwYb19605@vreme.yubc.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 16 Sep 2002 23:01:54 +0200 Message-Id: <1032210115.19483.21.camel@h3llr41z3r> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I have a HighPoint Rocket 133 U-ATA/133 device. I have tried to make it work with the ata(4) driver and the driver avaliable on http://www.highpoint-tech.com/ . My card is not recognized. I tried 4.6.2 and 4.7-PRERELEASE. I wondered if any of you have succeeded to make it work with FreeBSD > 4.4 The original driver is ment to work with 4.4 but then i dont see why it shouldnt work with FreeBSD newer then that. And I dont think downgrading my system from 4.7 to 4.4 is a good idea... Thanks a bunch in advance. YazzY To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 14: 1: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4508C37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web12105.mail.yahoo.com (web12105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9D8D43E6E for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:00:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akachler@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20020917210058.65979.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.41.10.208] by web12105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:00:58 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:00:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Kachler Subject: Mylex Controller To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, One of our mail server hard drives went dead and when we issue a mlxcontrol check command we get the following error: su-2.05# mlxcontrol check mlxd0 mlxcontrol: ioctl MLXD_CHECKASYNC: Cannot allocate memory This server used to be Linux and this happened before, so I know there is a posibility that the failure is logical rather than physical. So to be able to recover the drive logically would be the best solution, as opposed to replacing the drive. Any help as to why the mlxcontrol command is not working will be greatly appreciated. Arie Kachler SysAdmin/Telcom.net __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 14: 1: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE10A37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web12106.mail.yahoo.com (web12106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65D8543E4A for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akachler@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20020917210057.31589.qmail@web12106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.41.10.208] by web12106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:00:35 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:00:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Kachler Subject: Mylex Controller To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, One of our mail server hard drives went dead and when we issue a mlxcontrol check command we get the following error: su-2.05# mlxcontrol check mlxd0 mlxcontrol: ioctl MLXD_CHECKASYNC: Cannot allocate memory This server used to be Linux and this happened before, so I know there is a posibility that the failure is logical rather than physical. So to be able to recover the drive logically would be the best solution, as opposed to replacing the drive. Any help as to why the mlxcontrol command is not working will be greatly appreciated. Arie Kachler SysAdmin/Telcom.net __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Sep 17 17:30:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0241937B401 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail019.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail019.syd.optusnet.com.au [210.49.20.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0168C43E88 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:30:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lujan@zgeek.com) Received: from mrd1100.homeunix.org (c17180.livrp1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.28.200.40]) by mail019.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g8I0UHt24513; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:30:18 +1000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Patrick Kelso To: Billy Joe Jim Bob , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [OT] FreeBSD from Scratch? Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 18:41:48 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <20020917085931.A21655-100000@floyd.gnulife.org> In-Reply-To: <20020917085931.A21655-100000@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200205201841.48083.lujan@zgeek.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 18 September 2002 00:02, Billy Joe Jim Bob wrote: > I ran into an interesting site last week. It's > www.linuxfromscratch.org. It takes you through a buildup of a Linux sys= tem > that you can do yourself, and I have learned a lot about the general > architecture of Linux from it. > > I am interested in finding something similiar for FreeBSD though. = Is > anyone aware of a FreeBSD buildup site that tells you how to set it up > without the installer? This site; http://www.bsdtoday.com/2002/March/Features646.html has instructions to make a FreeBSD live cd. Not exactly what you where af= ter,=20 but it does explain some of the stuff similar to Linux from Scratch. Cheers, Patrick Kelso > > > > - Jamie > > > > > > > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > > - Walt Disney > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message --=20 Cheers, Patrick Kelso To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 0:17:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134D837B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from expers.aabc.dk (expers.aabc.dk [194.182.205.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6CA43E6A for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pzw@aabc.dk) Received: by expers.aabc.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:20:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: pzw@aabc.dk To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Inactive memory in FreeBSD Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:20:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there. I have a webserver running FreeBSD 4.5 with Apache 1.3.26, PHP 3.0.18, and MySQL 3.23.49. When I FTP to the server or compile stuff, the amount of Inactive memory goes up, which I guess is because it is used for disk cache. However, when I stop compiling/FTP, it don't release the memory, it stays inactive, and then when you compile or use FTP again, the server starts using swap space, which IMHO can't be very efficient, and I have to reboot the server in order to release the memory. I have 256MB in the server, and it only uses around 40MB initially, so there shouldn't be any problem, I don't run X or anything fancy on it either. I've seen this behavior on several of my FreeBSD servers, but never on my Sun Solaris 8 servers, they release the memory back to free memory when used. Why is this? And, is there any way to prevent it from happening? Best Regards, Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 4:51: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A113837B407 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 04:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usenet.otenet.gr (usenet.otenet.gr [195.170.0.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BD843E88 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 04:50:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by usenet.otenet.gr (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g8IBog8J027309 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:50:42 +0300 (EEST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a202.otenet.gr [212.205.215.202]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g8IBmpXZ002615; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:49:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8I9HS431112; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:17:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:17:27 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: pzw@aabc.dk Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Inactive memory in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20020918091727.GB20911@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-09-18 09:20, pzw@aabc.dk wrote: > When I FTP to the server or compile stuff, the amount of Inactive memory > goes up, which I guess is because it is used for disk cache. > > However, when I stop compiling/FTP, it don't release the memory, it stays > inactive, and then when you compile or use FTP again, the server starts > using swap space, which IMHO can't be very efficient, and I have to reboot > the server in order to release the memory. I have 256MB in the server, and > it only uses around 40MB initially, so there shouldn't be any problem, I > don't run X or anything fancy on it either. There is a nice article about the design of the VM system in FreeBSD over at www.FreeBSD.org. This will probably explain some more details of the way things are done. Find it at: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/ I am no virtual-memory guru myself and I can't explain in detail if and why things work as you describe them, but I think you might find this article of interest. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 4:57: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C7137B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 04:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gldis.ca (constans.gldis.ca [216.187.105.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC8A43E72 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 04:57:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gldisater@gldis.ca) Received: from gldis.ca (gldisater@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gldis.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8IBrHBj053244; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 07:53:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gldisater@gldis.ca) Received: (from gldisater@localhost) by gldis.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g8IBrGUo053243; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 07:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 07:53:16 -0400 From: Jeremy Faulkner To: pzw@aabc.dk Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Inactive memory in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20020918075316.A53039@constans.gldis.ca> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from pzw@aabc.dk on Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 09:20:16AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 09:20:16AM +0200, pzw@aabc.dk wrote: > Hi there. > > I have a webserver running FreeBSD 4.5 with Apache 1.3.26, PHP 3.0.18, and > MySQL 3.23.49. > > When I FTP to the server or compile stuff, the amount of Inactive memory > goes up, which I guess is because it is used for disk cache. > > However, when I stop compiling/FTP, it don't release the memory, it stays > inactive, and then when you compile or use FTP again, the server starts > using swap space, which IMHO can't be very efficient, and I have to reboot > the server in order to release the memory. I have 256MB in the server, and > it only uses around 40MB initially, so there shouldn't be any problem, I > don't run X or anything fancy on it either. > > I've seen this behavior on several of my FreeBSD servers, but never on my > Sun Solaris 8 servers, they release the memory back to free memory when > used. > > Why is this? And, is there any way to prevent it from happening? > > Best Regards, > Peter This is how the vm subsystem is supposed to work. This is normal, this is good. Inactive memory is memory that currently has data (programs) stored in it, but that data is not currently being used (the programs are not currently running). If the data that is currently stored in the inactive memory is needed again (you run a program again), you don't have to load it off the hard drive. This is a good thing. You don't want to change this. The comparison to solaris is irrelevant, as they (solaris and FreeBSD) have different vm subsystems. -- Jeremy Faulkner http://www.gldis.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 6:17:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770EA37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 06:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from expers.aabc.dk (expers.aabc.dk [194.182.205.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8108943E6E for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 06:17:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pzw@aabc.dk) Received: by expers.aabc.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:19:43 +0200 Message-ID: From: pzw@aabc.dk To: gldisater@gldis.ca Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: SV: Inactive memory in FreeBSD Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:19:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, yes, it might be a good thing when you have a lot of reoccurring tasks, and plenty of memory. However, when you compile a program or FTP a file to the server, the chances of you doing that over and over again is almost null, therefore caching these processes are a total waste. So, FreeBSD is best used for a server system, where you have more RAM than you use for all normal activity, and to prevent some seldom used tasks to hog up memory, you should reboot often. As a workstation system, you're better of using Windows or Linux, unless ofc. You're a secretary using the same word processor program day in and day out. IMHO it would be a far better solution, for you to be able to specify the maximum amount of memory that a program could hog up, so you don't have to reboot all the time to free memory. Best Regards, Peter >This is how the vm subsystem is supposed to work. This is normal, this >is good. Inactive memory is memory that currently has data (programs) >stored in it, but that data is not currently being used (the programs >are not currently running). If the data that is currently stored in the >inactive memory is needed again (you run a program again), you don't have >to load it off the hard drive. >This is a good thing. You don't want to change this. >The comparison to solaris is irrelevant, as they (solaris and FreeBSD) have >different vm subsystems. >-- >Jeremy Faulkner http://www.gldis.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 6:48:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CFE37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 06:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skyweb.ca (smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com [216.152.192.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9E843E4A for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 06:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjohnston@skyweb.ca) Received: from mjohnston ([209.5.243.50]) by smtp-1.vancouver.ipapp.com ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 06:48:27 -0700 From: "Mark Johnston" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Inactive memory in FreeBSD Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:50:18 -0500 Organization: SkyWeb Message-ID: <001b01c25f1a$54c46260$3e0fa8c0@skycable.int> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The VM discussion at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/x78.html is enlightening. From what I gather, an inactive page is not a program "hogging up" memory, and there's no need to worry about freeing it. To summarize, pages marked Inact and Cache are similar in that they are candidates to be reused; the difference is that Inact pages are "dirty", i.e. they still have data to be flushed to disk. When there are too many dirty pages, the system will flush them to disk and move them to the Cache queue. Pages in Cache are like free memory, but better. :) Their data is already on disk, so the pages can be instantly reused as free memory if needed, but if the original program tries to access the data again, the page can be revived without having to swap the data back in from disk. An Inact page can be reused, too, but its data has to be flushed first. The VM algorithm controlling when Inact pages are flushed, etc., is magic too deep for me, but judging by the page, the heavier the load, the more aggressively the memory system works. I'm not one to argue re whether FreeBSD is suitable for workstations vs servers, but this particular criterion isn't the one that should make the decision for you. Sorry if the formatting on this comes through broken - I've tried to keep it sane, but I'm stuck with Outlook and it's very sneaky about breaking things. Mark pzw@aabc.dk wrote: > Well, yes, it might be a good thing when you have a lot of reoccurring > tasks, and plenty of memory. > > However, when you compile a program or FTP a file to the server, the chances > of you doing that over and over again is almost null, therefore caching > these processes are a total waste. > > So, FreeBSD is best used for a server system, where you have more RAM than > you use for all normal activity, and to prevent some seldom used tasks to > hog up memory, you should reboot often. > > As a workstation system, you're better of using Windows or Linux, unless > ofc. You're a secretary using the same word processor program day in and day > out. > > IMHO it would be a far better solution, for you to be able to specify the > maximum amount of memory that a program could hog up, so you don't have to > reboot all the time to free memory. > > Best Regards, > Peter > > > > >This is how the vm subsystem is supposed to work. This is normal, this > >is good. Inactive memory is memory that currently has data (programs) > >stored in it, but that data is not currently being used (the programs > >are not currently running). If the data that is currently stored in the > >inactive memory is needed again (you run a program again), you don't have > >to load it off the hard drive. > > >This is a good thing. You don't want to change this. > > >The comparison to solaris is irrelevant, as they (solaris and FreeBSD) have > >different vm subsystems. > > >-- > >Jeremy Faulkner http://www.gldis.ca > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 7:13:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67FC37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 07:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from expers.aabc.dk (expers.aabc.dk [194.182.205.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45EC43E65 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 07:13:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pzw@aabc.dk) Received: by expers.aabc.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:15:54 +0200 Message-ID: From: pzw@aabc.dk To: mjohnston@skyweb.ca Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: SV: Inactive memory in FreeBSD Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 16:15:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org While this is a fine and dandy idea, I have experienced a serious downgrade in response time for some of my websites, when the system has converted all free memory to inactive memory. After a reboot, there was no problem with response time. I've read the article about the VM design, and it is like you say, but, the overhead on memory allocation from inactive memory, instead of free memory, must be very high, that's the only way to explain the situation above. Oh, I'm also stuck with Outlook, so please excuse me for formatting this letter. At least it's not in HTML... Best Regards, Peter ------------------------------------ The VM discussion at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vm-design/x78.html is enlightening. From what I gather, an inactive page is not a program "hogging up" memory, and there's no need to worry about freeing it. To summarize, pages marked Inact and Cache are similar in that they are candidates to be reused; the difference is that Inact pages are "dirty", i.e. they still have data to be flushed to disk. When there are too many dirty pages, the system will flush them to disk and move them to the Cache queue. Pages in Cache are like free memory, but better. :) Their data is already on disk, so the pages can be instantly reused as free memory if needed, but if the original program tries to access the data again, the page can be revived without having to swap the data back in from disk. An Inact page can be reused, too, but its data has to be flushed first. The VM algorithm controlling when Inact pages are flushed, etc., is magic too deep for me, but judging by the page, the heavier the load, the more aggressively the memory system works. I'm not one to argue re whether FreeBSD is suitable for workstations vs servers, but this particular criterion isn't the one that should make the decision for you. Sorry if the formatting on this comes through broken - I've tried to keep it sane, but I'm stuck with Outlook and it's very sneaky about breaking things. Mark pzw@aabc.dk wrote: > Well, yes, it might be a good thing when you have a lot of reoccurring > tasks, and plenty of memory. > > However, when you compile a program or FTP a file to the server, the chances > of you doing that over and over again is almost null, therefore caching > these processes are a total waste. > > So, FreeBSD is best used for a server system, where you have more RAM than > you use for all normal activity, and to prevent some seldom used tasks to > hog up memory, you should reboot often. > > As a workstation system, you're better of using Windows or Linux, unless > ofc. You're a secretary using the same word processor program day in and day > out. > > IMHO it would be a far better solution, for you to be able to specify the > maximum amount of memory that a program could hog up, so you don't have to > reboot all the time to free memory. > > Best Regards, > Peter > > > > >This is how the vm subsystem is supposed to work. This is normal, this > >is good. Inactive memory is memory that currently has data (programs) > >stored in it, but that data is not currently being used (the programs > >are not currently running). If the data that is currently stored in the > >inactive memory is needed again (you run a program again), you don't have > >to load it off the hard drive. > > >This is a good thing. You don't want to change this. > > >The comparison to solaris is irrelevant, as they (solaris and FreeBSD) have > >different vm subsystems. > > >-- > >Jeremy Faulkner http://www.gldis.ca > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 8: 5:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57F337B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE9B43E42 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-en1 [10.13.10.224]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id g8IF5DWI000753 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com (asmtp02-qfe3 [10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g8IF5DVw024523 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bust ([12.38.161.88]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H2N38O00.671 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:05:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:05:09 -0400 Subject: Re: SV: Inactive memory in FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: Chuck Swiger To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <06319CE3-CB18-11D6-ABD2-000A27D85A7E@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 09:19 AM, pzw@aabc.dk wrote: > However, when you compile a program or FTP a file to the server, the > chances > of you doing that over and over again is almost null, therefore caching > these processes are a total waste. Caching pages used by the FTP daemon or the C compiler executables in memory isn't a total waste, because those processes are running. Note that the system will not cache an excessive amount of the files being used by those programs; the disk I/O buffer is constrained. > So, FreeBSD is best used for a server system, where you have more RAM than > you use for all normal activity, and to prevent some seldom used tasks to > hog up memory, you should reboot often. FreeBSD makes a good server system. All well-designed systems perform better when the amount of physical RAM available is greater than their VM working set. I don't think your analysis of memory usage is correct. Take a look at the resident size (RSS), not the VM size (VSZ). However, you may have a program that is leaking memory, which is causing the swapfile to fill up. Killing that process will solve the problem without having to reboot. You should never need to reboot FreeBSD, short of reinstalling the kernel. > As a workstation system, you're better of using Windows or Linux, unless > ofc. You're a secretary using the same word processor program day in and > day > out. Opinion. Besides, platform advocacy is off topic. > IMHO it would be a far better solution, for you to be able to specify the > maximum amount of memory that a program could hog up, so you don't have to > reboot all the time to free memory. RTFM. You can specify the maximum amount of memory that a program can use-- see "man setrlimit" or the "limit" command in the shell: int setrlimit(int resource, const struct rlimit *rlp); DESCRIPTION Limits on the consumption of system resources by the current process and each process it creates may be obtained with the getrlimit() call, and set with the setrlimit() call. The resource parameter is one of the following: RLIMIT_CORE The largest size (in bytes) core(5) file that may be cre- ated. RLIMIT_CPU The maximum amount of cpu time (in seconds) to be used by each process. RLIMIT_DATA The maximum size (in bytes) of the data segment for a process; this defines how far a program may extend its break with the sbrk(2) system call. [ ... ] RLIMIT_RSS The maximum size (in bytes) to which a process's resident set size may grow. This imposes a limit on the amount of physical memory to be given to a process; if memory is tight, the system will prefer to take memory from pro- cesses that are exceeding their declared resident set size. RLIMIT_STACK The maximum size (in bytes) of the stack segment for a process; this defines how far a program's stack segment may be extended. Stack extension is performed automati- cally by the system. -Chuck Chuck Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | All your packets are belong to us. -------------+-------------------+----------------------------------- "The human race's favorite method for being in control of the facts is to ignore them." -Celia Green To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 8:12:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A7337B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from backtech.com (wilma.backtech.com [209.198.99.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3140B43E4A for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:12:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dexter@backtech.com) Received: (from dexter@localhost) by backtech.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA26640 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:12:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:12:06 -0400 From: Dexter McNeil To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Apache 1.3 + mod_ssl + php4 - not obvious how to all make work... Message-ID: <20020918151206.GA26483@backtech.com> Reply-To: dexter@backtech.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone built this combination from the ports collection? I keep running into the same problem - when I try to start apache w/ssl, I get the following error: barney# /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl Syntax error on line 240 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so into server: /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so: Undefined symbol "ssl_onceonlyinit" /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl: httpd could not be started I've tried changing the makefile for mod-php4 to point to apache13-modssl as the dependancy and letting the build for mod-php4 build & install apache13-modssl, but then what I end up with is an apache that runs but trying to start ssl causes it to barf up the above error. Installing apache13-modssl first, then mod-php4 causes the above error to occur when I start up apache by itself (depends on where the modphp4 directives land in the httpd.conf file...). Any and all clues appreciated! Many thanks, Dexter McNeil -- The ultimate destination on the journey of life is a hole 6 feet deep. Enjoy the journey - the destination is nothing to write home about. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 8:30:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C695F37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D2943E72 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a196.otenet.gr [212.205.215.196]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g8IFU7U8002995; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 18:30:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8IFTQw91950; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 18:29:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 18:29:23 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: pzw@aabc.dk Cc: mjohnston@skyweb.ca, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SV: Inactive memory in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20020918152922.GD77417@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-09-18 16:15, pzw@aabc.dk wrote: > While this is a fine and dandy idea, I have experienced a serious > downgrade in response time for some of my websites, when the system > has converted all free memory to inactive memory. After a reboot, > there was no problem with response time. Many aspects of the way the vm system works are tunable with sysctls. Have you tried reading through tuning(7) and trying various of the things described there? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 8:45: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566DE37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from backtech.com (wilma.backtech.com [209.198.99.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A63743E65 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:45:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dexter@backtech.com) Received: (from dexter@localhost) by backtech.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA26911; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:45:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:44:59 -0400 From: Dexter McNeil To: Antonio Torres Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 1.3 + mod_ssl + php4 - not obvious how to all make work... Message-ID: <20020918154459.GI22866@backtech.com> References: <20020918151206.GA26483@backtech.com> <20020918123600.0bb60ca2.antonio.torres@newspace.net.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020918123600.0bb60ca2.antonio.torres@newspace.net.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the reply. My ports tree is completely current - I've cvsup'd them last night before struggling through this, as I've been down this road before having the same problem. In the past I just ditched SSL, for that app apache & modphp were enough. This time I need both. Sigh... On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 12:36:00PM -0300, Antonio Torres wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:12:06 -0400 > Dexter McNeil wrote: > > > Has anyone built this combination from the ports collection? I keep > > running into the same problem - when I try to start apache w/ssl, I get > > the following error: > > > > verify the port updates ... > apache and several 'mods' (including php4) had a very recent update ! > > []s > -- > Antonio Torres > antonio.torres@newspace.net.br -- The ultimate destination on the journey of life is a hole 6 feet deep. Enjoy the journey - the destination is nothing to write home about. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 11:27: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFA337B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.day-light.net (day-light.net [64.37.72.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A6043E6A for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@day-light.com) Received: from w1 (118-203.bestdsl.net [216.162.118.203]) by mail.day-light.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D81B43525E for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:27:05 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "John Brooks" To: Subject: RE: Apache 1.3 + mod_ssl + php4 - not obvious how to all make work... Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:30:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01c25f41$752272a0$c905010a@daylight.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020918151206.GA26483@backtech.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've used that combo numerous times without difficulty. In fact I usually run separate instances of each from the same config file. One process of non-ssl and a separate process of ssl. Don't know how to fix your specific problem, but that combination does work from the ports. -- John Brooks john@stlbsd.org > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dexter McNeil > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:12 AM > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Apache 1.3 + mod_ssl + php4 - not obvious how to all make > work... > > > Has anyone built this combination from the ports collection? I keep > running into the same problem - when I try to start apache > w/ssl, I get > the following error: > > barney# /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl > Syntax error on line 240 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: > Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so into server: > /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so: Undefined symbol > "ssl_onceonlyinit" > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl: httpd could not be started > > > I've tried changing the makefile for mod-php4 to point to > apache13-modssl > as the dependancy and letting the build for mod-php4 build & install > apache13-modssl, but then what I end up with is an apache > that runs but > trying to start ssl causes it to barf up the above error. Installing > apache13-modssl first, then mod-php4 causes the above error > to occur when > I start up apache by itself (depends on where the modphp4 > directives land > in the httpd.conf file...). > > Any and all clues appreciated! > > Many thanks, > Dexter McNeil > > > > -- > The ultimate destination on the journey of life is a hole 6 feet deep. > Enjoy the journey - the destination is nothing to write home about. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 11:39:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EDB37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from backtech.com (wilma.backtech.com [209.198.99.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D29243E4A for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:39:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dexter@backtech.com) Received: (from dexter@localhost) by backtech.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA27900; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:39:22 -0400 From: Dexter McNeil To: John Brooks Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 1.3 + mod_ssl + php4 - not obvious how to all make work... Message-ID: <20020918183922.GB26483@backtech.com> References: <20020918151206.GA26483@backtech.com> <000c01c25f41$752272a0$c905010a@daylight.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000c01c25f41$752272a0$c905010a@daylight.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmmm... OK, can you tell me how you went about building it? Did you enable the SSL extensions in mod-php4 when you built the module? Cheers, Dexter McNeil PS: I forgot to mention before that I'm running FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE with a current set of ports cvsup'd last night. On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 01:30:25PM -0500, John Brooks wrote: > I've used that combo numerous times without difficulty. In fact I > usually run separate instances of each from the same config file. > One process of non-ssl and a separate process of ssl. Don't know > how to fix your specific problem, but that combination does work > from the ports. > > -- > John Brooks > john@stlbsd.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dexter McNeil > > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:12 AM > > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > > Subject: Apache 1.3 + mod_ssl + php4 - not obvious how to all make > > work... > > > > > > Has anyone built this combination from the ports collection? I keep > > running into the same problem - when I try to start apache > > w/ssl, I get > > the following error: > > > > barney# /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl > > Syntax error on line 240 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: > > Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so into server: > > /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so: Undefined symbol > > "ssl_onceonlyinit" > > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl: httpd could not be started > > > > > > I've tried changing the makefile for mod-php4 to point to > > apache13-modssl > > as the dependancy and letting the build for mod-php4 build & install > > apache13-modssl, but then what I end up with is an apache > > that runs but > > trying to start ssl causes it to barf up the above error. Installing > > apache13-modssl first, then mod-php4 causes the above error > > to occur when > > I start up apache by itself (depends on where the modphp4 > > directives land > > in the httpd.conf file...). > > > > Any and all clues appreciated! > > > > Many thanks, > > Dexter McNeil > > > > > > > > -- > > The ultimate destination on the journey of life is a hole 6 feet deep. > > Enjoy the journey - the destination is nothing to write home about. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- The ultimate destination on the journey of life is a hole 6 feet deep. Enjoy the journey - the destination is nothing to write home about. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 11:44:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16A037B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from babylon.someofum.org (babylon.oneofum.net [198.78.66.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474FB43E3B for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gunkel@oneofum.net) Received: from oneofum.net (babylon [198.78.66.67]) by babylon.someofum.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g8IIiprj021604; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:44:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gunkel@oneofum.net) X-Authentication-Warning: babylon.someofum.org: Host babylon [198.78.66.67] claimed to be oneofum.net Received: from 12.34.8.244 (SquirrelMail authenticated user gunkel) by www.oneofum.net with HTTP; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1289.12.34.8.244.1032374691.squirrel@www.oneofum.net> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Apache 1.3 + mod_ssl + php4 - not obvious how to all make work... From: "Alvin Gunkel" To: In-Reply-To: <20020918151206.GA26483@backtech.com> References: <20020918151206.GA26483@backtech.com> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.7) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dexter, I've seen this error when mod_php is compiled with IMAP/SSL support and cclient wasn't. I'm pulling this from memory, but I remember that by default cclient wasn't built with SSL support. You can build mod_php with just IMAP support instead of IMAP/SSL, or you can rebuild cclient with SSL (make -DWITH_SSL. Alvin Gunkel > Has anyone built this combination from the ports collection? I keep > running into the same problem - when I try to start apache w/ssl, I get > the following error: > > barney# /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl > Syntax error on line 240 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: > Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so into server: > /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so: Undefined symbol > "ssl_onceonlyinit" /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl: httpd could not > be started To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 13:16:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4210A37B404 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from backtech.com (wilma.backtech.com [209.198.99.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CAC43E72 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:16:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dexter@backtech.com) Received: (from dexter@localhost) by backtech.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA28124; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:46:54 -0400 From: Dexter McNeil To: Alvin Gunkel Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 1.3 + mod_ssl + php4 - not obvious how to all make work... Message-ID: <20020918194654.GC26483@backtech.com> References: <20020918151206.GA26483@backtech.com> <1289.12.34.8.244.1032374691.squirrel@www.oneofum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1289.12.34.8.244.1032374691.squirrel@www.oneofum.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That was it!!! It's built and works! I removed mod_php, apache-modssl, and cclient. Then built cclient with the -DWITH_SSL option, then built mod_php (I'd changed the dependency in the make file to specify apache-modssl), and let it all build (with IMAP/SSL enabled, along with OPENSSL). It all works now. Cheers, Dexter On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 02:44:51PM -0400, Alvin Gunkel wrote: > Dexter, > > I've seen this error when mod_php is compiled with IMAP/SSL support and > cclient wasn't. I'm pulling this from memory, but I remember that by > default cclient wasn't built with SSL support. You can build mod_php with > just IMAP support instead of IMAP/SSL, or you can rebuild cclient with SSL > (make -DWITH_SSL. > > Alvin Gunkel > > > Has anyone built this combination from the ports collection? I keep > > running into the same problem - when I try to start apache w/ssl, I get > > the following error: > > > > barney# /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl > > Syntax error on line 240 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: > > Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so into server: > > /usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp4.so: Undefined symbol > > "ssl_onceonlyinit" /usr/local/sbin/apachectl startssl: httpd could not > > be started > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- The ultimate destination on the journey of life is a hole 6 feet deep. Enjoy the journey - the destination is nothing to write home about. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 14: 3:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFEA37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168E043E42 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:03:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [210.49.77.192] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5324aadf) with ESMTP id nomhaaaa for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:03:03 +1000 Message-ID: <3D88E9D5.8010109@quake.com.au> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:02:13 +1000 From: Kal Torak Organization: Quake Networking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pzw@aabc.dk Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SV: Inactive memory in FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org pzw@aabc.dk wrote: > Well, yes, it might be a good thing when you have a lot of reoccurring > tasks, and plenty of memory. > > However, when you compile a program or FTP a file to the server, the chances > of you doing that over and over again is almost null, therefore caching > these processes are a total waste. How is it a waste? By complining something things get moved into memory, simply by not clearing that memory after the task is done is hardly a waste! The memory isnt active, so it can be used by other programs if its needed, but should the data in it be needed again its still there and saves a whole heap of time accessing disks.. Its a win-win situation here... The memory is 'free' to be used but cached at the same time! > So, FreeBSD is best used for a server system, where you have more RAM than > you use for all normal activity, and to prevent some seldom used tasks to > hog up memory, you should reboot often. You should NEVER EVER have to reboot unless: 1) You upgraded your system 2) You changed your kernel > As a workstation system, you're better of using Windows or Linux, unless > ofc. You're a secretary using the same word processor program day in and day > out. Thats not only total rubbish but has no relevance to this discusion. > IMHO it would be a far better solution, for you to be able to specify the > maximum amount of memory that a program could hog up, so you don't have to > reboot all the time to free memory. You can... Try reading some man pages... But the point is the program is NOT hogging up anything!! And free memory is wasted memory! Its a good thing when you have very little free memory and lots of cached and inactive, you DONT want free memory! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 14: 8:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9194737B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1394F43E6A for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:08:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [210.49.77.192] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5324aadf) with ESMTP id tomhaaaa for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:08:55 +1000 Message-ID: <3D88EB35.7080303@quake.com.au> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 07:08:05 +1000 From: Kal Torak Organization: Quake Networking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pzw@aabc.dk Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SV: Inactive memory in FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org pzw@aabc.dk wrote: > While this is a fine and dandy idea, I have experienced a serious downgrade > in response time for some of my websites, when the system has converted all > free memory to inactive memory. After a reboot, there was no problem with > response time. This has nothing to do with the amount of inactive memory, this would be the result of a program leaking or consuming large amounts of resorces that it didnt need.. Have a look at the memory usage of your programs when they are first started and then compare that to the usage of when you notice the downgrade.. You will probably find something is using huge amounts of memory.. Thats a bug in the program most likely and you should report it or upgrade to a newer version or switch to a different program that does the same thing.. If you MUST use that software you could set a cron job to kill the process and start it again every few days or whatever you think is needed so that memory is released... Unlike windows you dont need to reboot to salvage leaked memory! > I've read the article about the VM design, and it is like you say, but, the > overhead on memory allocation from inactive memory, instead of free memory, > must be very high, that's the only way to explain the situation above. Inactive memory is not a bad thing! Where do you get this idea that free memory is better than inactive?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 21:14:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5CC37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2.sentex.ca [199.212.134.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB99C43E75 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:14:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from house (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id g8J3o8ZT036684; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:50:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: "Troy Settle" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fw: FrontPage 2002 Extensions Help Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:52:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:30:15 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you = wrote: > >For nearly 6 years now, I've had Apache+SSL+FP running without issue. >The last box I built was nearly 2 years ago, and has been in production >ever since: > > Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) mod_perl/1.24 PHP/4.0.4 > FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6 > >Needless to say, I'm desperate to get this thing upgraded. But over the Off the top of my head, install the apache_modssl port with --enable-suexec in the Makefile then, install your mod_php then install mod_frontpage from the ports. At one point I think it will ask you for the location of httpd so it can "update" (aka destroy it). = Give it a dummy copy to "update" and let it install on its merry way after = that. After that you should be fine. You may want=20 =46rontpageAdminEnable as well depending on your security needs. Oh, and if you are updating from Frontpage 98/2000 to 2002, there are = some additional headaches like making sure the symlink /usr/local/frontpage/currentversion -> version5.0/ is there In many ways we find frontpage on UNIX FAR more resilient in an ISP environment. We rarely have to fix sites on the unix boxes, but very = often have to on the Win32 machines. The biggest problem is that users will bugger up things via FTP, but the UNIX version is less susceptible to = being damaged by this. On 2 FreeBSD servers, we have about 700 FrontPage = enabled domains. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) =09 Sentex Communications Corp, =09 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers=20 could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 23:31:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FB837B401; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exch01.megadat.com (exchange.megadat.com [195.22.224.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B276443E6A; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:31:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from VGirnet@megadat.com) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: WCCP performance questions Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:45:19 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: WCCP performance questions Thread-Index: AcJeKwiQEglbTtZJSU+zI6Xm7HmggAA5inDw From: "Girnet Vladimir" To: Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello, >=20 > We are about to build some new WCCP servers. These servers will be = based on FreeBSD 4.6.2 with Squid 2.4.7. >=20 > The hardware will be: 2 x PIII 1.3GHz, 1GB RAM, 100GB HDD. Servers = must serve about 200 requests per second, from about 1000 users. >=20 > I have a question: What performance tuning must be made, to achive = the best results from these servers? >=20 > Looking forward to your reply, > Vladimir Girnet >=20 >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 23:31:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5641337B406; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exch01.megadat.com (exchange.megadat.com [195.22.224.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8068143E6A; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:31:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from VGirnet@megadat.com) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: WCCP performance questions Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:17:23 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: WCCP performance questions Thread-Index: AcJeKwiQEglbTtZJSU+zI6Xm7HmggA== From: "Girnet Vladimir" To: Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, We are about to build some new WCCP servers. These servers will be based = on FreeBSD 4.6.2 with Squid 2.4.7. The hardware will be: 2 x PIII 1.3GHz, 1GB RAM, 100GB HDD. Servers = must serve about 200 requests per second, from about 1000 users. I have a question: What performance tuning must be made, to achive the = best results from these servers? Looking forward to your reply, Vladimir Girnet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 18 23:32: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07A037B401; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exch01.megadat.com (exchange.megadat.com [195.22.224.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71DD43E3B; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:31:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from VGirnet@megadat.com) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: WCCP performance questions Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:51:58 +0300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: WCCP performance questions Thread-Index: AcJeJ3tazWCyLZgiRv2BbOVhS12RhQ== From: "Girnet Vladimir" To: Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, We are about to build some new WCCP servers. These servers will be based = on FreeBSD 4.6.2 with Squid 2.4.7. The hardware will be: 2 x PIII 1.3GHz, 1GB RAM, 100GB HDD. Servers = must serve about 200 requests per second, from about 1000 users. I have a question: What performance tuning must be made, to achive the = best results from these servers? Looking forward to your reply, Vladimir Girnet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 19 12:25:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B0B37B401; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F0A43E4A; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from smtp-relay03.mac.com (smtp-relay03-en1 [10.13.10.222]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id g8JJPsWI015344; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay03.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g8JJPrKN024303; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bust ([12.38.161.88]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H2P9Z500.2HP; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:25:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:25:52 -0400 Subject: Re: WCCP performance questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: Chuck Swiger To: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9C5B6486-CC05-11D6-801D-000A27D85A7E@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, September 17, 2002, at 04:51 AM, Girnet Vladimir wrote: > We are about to build some new WCCP servers. These servers will be based > on FreeBSD 4.6.2 with Squid 2.4.7. > > The hardware will be: 2 x PIII 1.3GHz, 1GB RAM, 100GB HDD. Servers must > serve about 200 requests per second, from about 1000 users. > > I have a question: What performance tuning must be made, to achive the > best results from these servers? Read "man tuning", of course. 200 requests per second is a significant load-- around 2 MB/s I/O bandwidth, given an average WWW request size of ~10K, only remember that you have to read the requested data (at least the first time, until it's cached) and forward the response to the client, so you're both sending and receiving the bytes some of the time. You want to either have a fast SCSI disk system, or multiple spindles, or preferably both. Four 30 GB disks would perform a lot better than one 100 GB disk. With the way squid distributes cache directories, you wouldn't even need to RAID-0 (stripe) them, although that wouldn't be a bad thought either. You could get by with a single 100TX NIC per machine, but having two NICs would be better, since you can easily divide the network traffic up. -Chuck Chuck Swiger | chuck@codefab.com | All your packets are belong to us. -------------+-------------------+----------------------------------- "The human race's favorite method for being in control of the facts is to ignore them." -Celia Green To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 19 19: 1:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1404F37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783FB43E42 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:01:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [210.49.77.192] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5324aadf) with ESMTP id dxnhaaaa for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 12:02:09 +1000 Message-ID: <3D8A817C.7040009@quake.com.au> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 12:01:32 +1000 From: Kal Torak Organization: Quake Networking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Problems with tcp packets and ipfw fwd rules Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all.. I have a freebsd system working as the gateway router at this site, it has two upstream links and Im doing some very simple forwarding on it... One link is set as the default route and the majority of traffic heads out that.. I then use the ipfw fwd rule to use the other link for traffic from certain hosts and to certain hosts.. This all works fine, except for with most tcp connections... For instance browsing most web sites fail to load (tho some work strangly enough maybe thats just the cache..) Im thinking maybe this is some kind of mtu issue perhaps? I say this because looking with tcpdump the packets all seem to go and come back, but the pages never load... Then again maybe tcp connections just dont work with fwd? Any ideas of what is causing this problem?? And what to do to solve it? Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 19 22: 8: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11ABA37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from power.connexus.net.au (power.connexus.net.au [203.12.22.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F6443E77 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrianl@connexus.net.au) Received: from NOTEBOOK.connexus.net.au (as13.Melbourne.interNex.net.au [203.12.22.37]) by power.connexus.net.au (8.12.4/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8K599C3056563 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:09:09 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from adrianl@connexus.net.au) XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020920150708.00b5df58@mail.connexus.net.au> X-Sender: adrianl@mail.connexus.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:07:13 +1000 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Adrian @ Connexus" Subject: Suppressing warning messages from syslogd? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm wondering how to suppress warning messages from /var/log/messages and the console until I get around to dealing with the warnings.. They make it very hard to read useful stuff in the logs. How do I make syslogd see reason? Thanks, Adrian. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 19 23: 7:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B0A37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.one2netmail.co.ug (mail.one2netmail.co.ug [216.250.215.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B80443E86 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:07:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pokui@one2net.co.ug) Received: from favour.one2net.co.ug (g-class.sanyutel.com [216.250.215.27]) by mail.one2netmail.co.ug (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9215768BD9; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:12:06 +0300 (EAT) Subject: Re: Suppressing warning messages from syslogd? From: Patrick J Okui To: "Adrian @ Connexus" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020920150708.00b5df58@mail.connexus.net.au> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020920150708.00b5df58@mail.connexus.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Date: 20 Sep 2002 09:05:45 +0300 Message-Id: <1032501946.4641.1.camel@favour> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 08:07, Adrian @ Connexus wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wondering how to suppress warning messages > from /var/log/messages and the console until > I get around to dealing with the warnings.. > They make it very hard to read useful stuff in > the logs. How do I make syslogd see reason? edit /etc/syslog.conf and remove (or better still modify) the lines which end in 'root' or 'console'.. man 5 syslog.conf should be of help, HTH Patrick > > Thanks, > Adrian. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Patrick J Okui Systems Administrator One2Net (U) Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 20 17:18:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D6E37B401 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loops.nilpotent.org (loops.nilpotent.org [12.17.163.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D28943E65 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fn@hungry.org) Received: (qmail 29890 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2002 20:18:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (root@203.215.177.158) by 12.17.163.70 with QMTP; 20 Sep 2002 20:18:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 61212 invoked by uid 500); 20 Sep 2002 20:12:06 -0000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: VGirnet@megadat.com Subject: Re: WCCP performance questions X-nil: X-Useless-info: System load is 1.06 with 63 processes active. X-Neuromancer: What's in Beme, okay? X-Linux-Version: Cappy Ishmael's Moby Linux From: fn@hungry.org (Faried Nawaz) Organization: Integral Domains Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 02:12:06 +0600 Message-ID: Lines: 35 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence, i386-unknown-freebsd4.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At an ISP I do random work for, I have three Pentium III 1GHz boxes set up with 512MB RAM and 12GB of dedicated cache space on IDE drives each. They're running FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE (updated today to 4.7-RC) with squid 2.4.6 using diskd. They're doing WCCP off a Cisco 3640 (hint: make sure you use "ip cef"). They used to handle 10-20 requests/sec, but the ISP's expanded recently and they've hit 35+ requests/sec. At peak hours there are 600 dialup users online. From the MRTG graphs, it doesn't seem like they the proxies are maxed out yet -- they're still responding to requests in very short timeframes. All three proxies show 50-75% of data being served out of cache. I might experiment with using heap LFUDA as the cache replacement policy to see if it helps for my type of users. cache_mem for squid is set to 170MB (~ 1/3rd of main memory). Each proxy is set up with the other two as cache peers, and each proxy also runs its own caching nameserver (dnscache, from djbdns) which uses up 40MB of RAM. FreeBSD on the systems uses ipfilter to route packets to squid. The only special kernel config options I used were to set maxusers to 0 and to use 8192 mbuf clusters (more may or may not be needed for your mix of users; use "netstat -m" to guide you). squid isn't very CPU-intensive (uses ~ 20-30% CPU on my boxes). I don't see how multiple processors will help, since it's not multithreaded. However, maxing out on memory and disk space will definitely be useful. Faried. -- The Great GNU has arrived, infidels, behold his wrath ! If I wanted a GF, Values, not variables. I'd use Dylan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message