From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 3 1: 1: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE05237B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 01:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3890B43E4A for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 01:01:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pwabomi@sbcglobal.net) Received: from C2KTISISWIN (adsl-63-199-200-209.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.199.200.209]) by pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA390wEk112622 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 04:00:59 -0500 From: "Peter Black" To: Subject: RE: Hosting a dial up server. Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 01:01:23 -0800 Message-ID: <013101c28317$96478070$6501a8c0@C2KTISISWIN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3DC4CB81.8040202@quake.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am interested in creating a dial up server out of a FreeBSD(4.7) box for a school project, a rather minor ISP experience that will work wonders with my UNIX professor. I have so far failed to find adequate information on the subject utilizing Google and other search engines. Any information/references/etc. would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 3 2:10:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65CD37B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 02:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp26.singnet.com.sg (smtp26.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B375D43E4A for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 02:10:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shanali@singapura.singnet.com.sg) Received: from singapura.singnet.com.sg (singapura.singnet.com.sg [165.21.10.10]) by smtp26.singnet.com.sg (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA3AAM9l013562 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:10:22 +0800 Received: (from shanali@localhost) by singapura.singnet.com.sg (8.8.5/8.7.2) id SAA18014 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:10:22 +0800 (SST) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:10:22 +0800 From: S H A N To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a dial up server with digiboard and radius support Message-ID: <20021103101022.GA16558@singapura.singnet.com.sg> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3DC3B2C6.3151035F@asda.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC3B2C6.3151035F@asda.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:11:02PM +0200, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Digiboard Xem 64 and I am thinking of setting it up using > FreeBSD as an extra dialup server. Radius support is also needed and > multilink capability would also be nice so here are a few questions.) > > 1) Can it be done using FreeBSD's ppp? From what I have seen ppp has > already radius support build in. Anyone tried it? u bet! can. > 2) Where could I find more references? www.google.com/bsd > 3) I am also looking into a radius replacement. Is there a good, fast > and flexible tested radius server, that runs under FBSD and supports > multilink, accounting, user and group limit by time and date and can be > used with W2k machines? Expected traffic could reach up to 300 requests > per min which shouldn't be that much for a good radius server. www.open.com.au/radiator > Thank you you are more than welcome dude :) > --- > Lefteris Tsintjelis > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- S H A N To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 3 9:14:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0036F37B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:14:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from blue.centerone.com (blue.centerone.com [204.133.183.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9121443E6E for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:14:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rf-list@centerone.com) Received: from DELIVERANCE-XP.centerone.com (hs5-ifw.wiaas.org [65.102.239.61]) by blue.centerone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15613; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:25:15 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20021103100432.03942120@mail.centerone.com> X-Sender: rf-list@mail.centerone.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:05:07 -0700 To: "Peter Black" , From: Ralph Forsythe Subject: RE: Hosting a dial up server. In-Reply-To: <013101c28317$96478070$6501a8c0@C2KTISISWIN> References: <3DC4CB81.8040202@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Read up on pppd, you will just want to run that and have it answer on one or more modem ports. -rf At 01:01 AM 11/3/2002 -0800, Peter Black wrote: >I am interested in creating a dial up server out of a FreeBSD(4.7) box >for a school project, a rather minor ISP experience that will work >wonders with my UNIX professor. I have so far failed to find adequate >information on the subject utilizing Google and other search engines. > >Any information/references/etc. would be greatly appreciated. > >Best regards, >Peter > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 3 9:19:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F15937B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:19:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nettally.com (smtp.nettally.com [199.44.114.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD1C43E4A for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:19:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tyler@cagelink.com) Received: from nettally.com [199.44.114.224] by smtp.nettally.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.13) id AA905FBE0132; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 12:19:12 -0500 Received: from tyler [199.44.94.10] by nettally.com (SMTPD32-7.12) id AA8F14E30270; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 12:19:11 -0500 Message-ID: <00ed01c2835d$1a8583b0$0200a8c0@tyler> From: "Tyler Richey" To: References: <3DC3B2C6.3151035F@asda.gr> <20021103101022.GA16558@singapura.singnet.com.sg> Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a dial up server with digiboard and radius support Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:19:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.daemonnews.org/200105/dialup1.html Tyler Richey Network Administrator CageLink Computer Services http://www.cagelink.com - http://www.hostcl.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "S H A N" To: Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 5:10 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a dial up server with digiboard and radius support > On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:11:02PM +0200, Lefteris Tsintjelis wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a Digiboard Xem 64 and I am thinking of setting it up using > > FreeBSD as an extra dialup server. Radius support is also needed and > > multilink capability would also be nice so here are a few questions.) > > > > 1) Can it be done using FreeBSD's ppp? From what I have seen ppp has > > already radius support build in. Anyone tried it? > u bet! can. > > > 2) Where could I find more references? > www.google.com/bsd > > > 3) I am also looking into a radius replacement. Is there a good, fast > > and flexible tested radius server, that runs under FBSD and supports > > multilink, accounting, user and group limit by time and date and can be > > used with W2k machines? Expected traffic could reach up to 300 requests > > per min which shouldn't be that much for a good radius server. > www.open.com.au/radiator > > > Thank you > you are more than welcome dude :) > > > --- > > Lefteris Tsintjelis > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- > S H A N > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 3 10:25:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AE637B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordrede.visionsix.com (mordrede.visionsix.com [65.202.119.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE02E43EA9 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@visionsix.com) Received: from yogi (unverified [65.202.119.169]) by mordrede.visionsix.com (Vircom SMTPRS 1.4.232) with SMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:25:39 -0600 Message-ID: <002a01c28365$fe194640$a977ca41@yogi> From: "Lewis Watson" To: References: <98940-22002110311233288@M2W081.mail2web.com> <3DC4CB81.8040202@quake.com.au> Subject: Re: Scripting "adduser" Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:22:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I wrote a program in perl for a college to add accounts for > students to the system from a flat text file with comma > seperated fields... > > If you interested I can give you that, it should be easy to > change it for your needs or maybe I can even do customize it > for you.. Anyway let me know if your interested... I would like to see this script. I had a script for linux that I used to add new accounts but converting over from linux to freebsd has me moving in several directions at once. If you have this script I would like to see it. Thanks. Lewis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 3 22:37:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1FF37B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 22:37:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhid.com (rhid.com [64.49.215.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861AA43E42 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 22:37:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwp@rhid.com) Received: from mail.rhid.com (0-2pool209-215.nas32.tempe1.az.us.da.qwest.net [67.3.209.215]) by rhid.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF2F358497 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:37:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mail.rhid.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C2B742C94F; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 23:38:06 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 23:38:06 -0700 From: James Pye To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: dialup wholesalers & merchant accounts Message-ID: <20021104063806.GA5804@void> Reply-To: jwp@rhid.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: rhid development Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline greetings; yes, it's a long one so bear with me for a bit... i am seeking a dialup account wholesaler. i have googled a bit, but i do not think what was uncovered will work for me, as most wish for a hundred or two dollars for the lovely bs fee(synonymous with setup). perhaps this is unavoidable, but i really doubt any of the companies i found would be willing to work with me(yes, this means i have very little capital to work with). also something under or not too far over $10/month for an unlimited national dialup account, and no stupid fees like a monthly minimum, and none of that branded reseller crap either. i would also be wanting to host my own radius daemon(freeradius looks nice, pgsql support looks like it will work well for me). ugh, that is quite a few conditions; perhaps i am dreaming, but i figured if one existed, someone on this list would know about them. tho, a wholesaler may not even be who i should contact, perhaps i need to go straight to the service provider themselves.? any suggestions on this? also any ideas on a better way to search for such a company, or any docs and other mailing lists that would aid me are welcome. as for the cc processors/merchant account bs is looking for a cc processor as painful for others as it was for me? i went to auth.net's reseller list and went through them one by one getting quotes BY PHONE(!!! some make you call them so i just called them all, which can be time consuming sometimes !!!) until i realized that this was going to be relatively expensive(yeah, yeah, i know. but when you're working with some rather limited capital it's easy to get nickeled and dimed to death if one is not careful). so, i am also seeking a cc processor that does not charge me for bs(normal merchant fees, i know, i know)(statement, gateway, setup fees that normally come up at least $30 a month and of course $100+ for the setup). i do know about 2checkout.com, and right now they look like the best solution for me at this time, but they do not appear to allow transparent transactions(a txn without sending the user to a 2checkout page, which is really annoying for a volume of reasons even beyond the simple annoyance of the user having to leave your site just to hit another button)(hehe, tho i can think of a way around this that may work, tho 2checkout would probably not approve of it ;) paypal is an obvious solution, but i would rather not rely on them for many reasons that would enlengthen this letter quite significantly. a side question on cc processors: does auth.net charge a non-refundable authorization or activation fee normally ranging around $350? two merchant companies charged such a fee(that said it was an auth.net fee, not them). tho, the wellsfargo merchant rep said that auth.net had no such fee. i'm betting the latter is true, but i have not called auth.net with this question. i ask this on this list rather than auth.net for one reason: to make others aware if the latter is the case and the two companies were lying to me. well, i'm think i'm stuck with 2checkout, but i wanted to ask around before they ate my $50 for good.(gotta love those setup fees, or damn them to the fiery pits of hell from which they came!!!! 8P i prefer the latter. ) hrm, that's about it; pretty long letter huh? if you were able to bear my blatant disregard for capitalization and good grammar and were actually able to read it all: thanks for reading my questions and listening to me rant; thanks twice if you are able to answer some of them. sincerely, -james --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9xhXOnbjJW1rXbm8RAncWAJ0XjGJ5Q7BL2zCIQup3J96ptMrgmQCdEo// Wzc/Vvkhy8KjWd+Twzhm4bI= =a00i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 3 23:39:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D539637B401 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 23:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from aol.com (217-126-227-40.uc.nombres.ttd.es [217.126.227.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50E6B43E42 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 23:39:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maclayh6784m47@aol.com) Reply-To: Message-ID: <027a55c04b4d$4736e0a5$7ab22ec1@iyeovd> From: To: maclayh@aol.com Subject: DAte Matcher 6375GZIB3-012MeqD1254ogjW3-756X-29 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:22:01 -0600 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.501) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are you sick and tired of be home alone everynight? 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Find what you are looking for http://www.noblinddates.com 0326nTio3-423PnrZ5795OliE4-277iLBE2305oscSl40 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 4 7:14:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D94537B404 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from weaponsof.massdestruction.net (massdestruction.net [205.252.38.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6E843E75 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:14:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from herb@massdestruction.net) Received: from weaponsof.massdestruction.net (herb@weaponsof.massdestruction.net [205.252.38.67]) by weaponsof.massdestruction.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FEmL34168 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO) for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:14:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from herb@massdestruction.net) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:14:48 -0500 (EST) From: Herb McNew To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dialup wholesalers & merchant accounts In-Reply-To: <20021104063806.GA5804@void> Message-ID: <20021104101046.R14593-100000@weaponsof.massdestruction.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know much about the cc processing, but as for the dialup stuff, have you looked at IPass (http://www.ipass.com)? I don't know what their prices are like, but when we used them a couple of years ago, you got national dialup and essentially their RADIUS servers proxyed back to yours for authentication on your accounts. Seems to meet 2 of your 3 requirements. Herb McNew ======================================== Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.) On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, James Pye wrote: > Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 23:38:06 -0700 > From: James Pye > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: dialup wholesalers & merchant accounts > > > greetings; yes, it's a long one so bear with me for a bit... > > i am seeking a dialup account wholesaler. i have googled a bit, but i do not think what was uncovered will work for me, as most wish for a hundred or two dollars for the lovely bs fee(synonymous with setup). perhaps this is unavoidable, but i really doubt any of the companies i found would be willing to work with me(yes, this means i have very little capital to work with). also something under or not too far over $10/month for an unlimited national dialup account, and no stupid fees like a monthly minimum, and none of that branded reseller crap either. i would also be wanting to host my own radius daemon(freeradius looks nice, pgsql support looks like it will work well for me). > ugh, that is quite a few conditions; perhaps i am dreaming, but i figured if one existed, someone on this list would know about them. > tho, a wholesaler may not even be who i should contact, perhaps i need to go straight to the service provider themselves.? any suggestions on this? > also any ideas on a better way to search for such a company, or any docs and other mailing lists that would aid me are welcome. > > > as for the cc processors/merchant account bs > > is looking for a cc processor as painful for others as it was for me? i went to auth.net's reseller list and went through them one by one getting quotes BY PHONE(!!! some make you call them so i just called them all, which can be time consuming sometimes !!!) until i realized that this was going to be relatively expensive(yeah, yeah, i know. but when you're working with some rather limited capital it's easy to get nickeled and dimed to death if one is not careful). > so, i am also seeking a cc processor that does not charge me for bs(normal merchant fees, i know, i know)(statement, gateway, setup fees that normally come up at least $30 a month and of course $100+ for the setup). > i do know about 2checkout.com, and right now they look like the best solution for me at this time, but they do not appear to allow transparent transactions(a txn without sending the user to a 2checkout page, which is really annoying for a volume of reasons even beyond the simple annoyance of the user having to leave your site just to hit another button)(hehe, tho i can think of a way around this that may work, tho 2checkout would probably not approve of it ;) > paypal is an obvious solution, but i would rather not rely on them for many reasons that would enlengthen this letter quite significantly. > > a side question on cc processors: does auth.net charge a non-refundable authorization or activation fee normally ranging around $350? two merchant companies charged such a fee(that said it was an auth.net fee, not them). tho, the wellsfargo merchant rep said that auth.net had no such fee. i'm betting the latter is true, but i have not called auth.net with this question. i ask this on this list rather than auth.net for one reason: to make others aware if the latter is the case and the two companies were lying to me. > > well, i'm think i'm stuck with 2checkout, but i wanted to ask around before they ate my $50 for good.(gotta love those setup fees, or damn them to the fiery pits of hell from which they came!!!! 8P i prefer the latter. ) > > > hrm, that's about it; pretty long letter huh? if you were able to bear my blatant disregard for capitalization and good grammar and were actually able to read it all: thanks for reading my questions and listening to me rant; thanks twice if you are able to answer some of them. > > > sincerely, > > -james > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 4 13:49:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FFB37B404 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.microlink.lt (mail.microlink.lt [213.197.128.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4051B43E77 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:49:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from domas@mail.lt) Received: from mail.lt (office.microlink.lt [213.197.128.76]) by mail.microlink.lt (MicroLink Data mail) with ESMTP id CE9F0113212 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 23:49:43 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3DC6EB50.6090505@mail.lt> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 23:49:04 +0200 From: Domas Mituzas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: larger backup solutions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.65.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I wonder what backup solutions (1-10T) are best suited for FreeBSD datacenters. What I came to is... Sony StorStation LIB162, HP StorageWorks, HP SureStore libraries, Hitachi Thunder 9200? Or is it still cheapest way to build boxes stuffed with IDE hard drives? Regards, Domas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 4 14:17:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237FF37B401 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns3.unixmexico.net (ns3.unixmexico.net [64.141.69.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 958D943E3B for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:17:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbari@unixmexico.com) Received: (qmail 5861 invoked by uid 85); 4 Nov 2002 22:17:34 -0000 Received: from nbari@unixmexico.com by ns1.unixmexico.net by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.14 ( Clear:. Processed in 0.015386 secs); 04 Nov 2002 22:17:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO unixmexico.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.unixmexico.net with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 22:17:34 -0000 Received: from 200.67.190.71 (SquirrelMail authenticated user nbari@unixmexico.com) by mail.unixmexico.net with HTTP; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:17:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <63336.200.67.190.71.1036448254.squirrel@mail.unixmexico.net> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:17:34 -0600 (CST) Subject: qmail + 1 million users From: To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.9) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all i have almost 1 million users and i am using qmail with vpopmail right now i have a compaq proliant 2 procesors p III and 1GB ram users have 2MB Quota but the servers is geting slow, and i am using almost all my swap partition (85%) what hardware do you recomend for this server and how can i balance the load on the server I am thinking on a dual xeon DELL poweredge 6600 with 6GB ram and two 73Gb SCSI Thanks ----------------------------------------- "UNIXMEXICO la comunidad *nix en todo México!" http://www.unixmexico.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 4 16:41:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03BD37B401 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from beta.stelesys.com (c-24-98-86-57.atl.client2.attbi.com [24.98.86.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A88743E4A for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:41:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jerry@syslog.org) Received: from [192.168.0.199] (helo=jbell9000) by beta.stelesys.com with asmtp (Exim 4.10) id 188rmo-00039M-00; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:41:42 -0500 Message-ID: <00bc01c28464$184905b0$010a0a0a@iss.net> From: "jerry bell" To: , References: <63336.200.67.190.71.1036448254.squirrel@mail.unixmexico.net> Subject: Re: qmail + 1 million users Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:40:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The recommendation is going to really depend on how much money you want to spend and how much growth you want to plan for. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:17 PM Subject: qmail + 1 million users > Hi all > > i have almost 1 million users and i am using qmail with vpopmail > right now i have a compaq proliant 2 procesors p III and 1GB ram > users have 2MB Quota but the servers is geting slow, and i am using almost > all my swap partition (85%) what hardware do you recomend for this server > and how can i balance the load on the server > > I am thinking on a dual xeon DELL poweredge 6600 with 6GB ram and two 73Gb > SCSI > > Thanks > > > ----------------------------------------- > "UNIXMEXICO la comunidad *nix en todo México!" > http://www.unixmexico.org/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 4 17: 3:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AFF37B404 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from blue.centerone.com (blue.centerone.com [204.133.183.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E306C43E77 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:03:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rf-list@centerone.com) Received: from DELIVERANCE-XP.centerone.com (hs5-ifw.wiaas.org [65.102.239.61]) by blue.centerone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00364; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:14:00 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20021104175841.024c8b58@mail.centerone.com> X-Sender: rf-list@mail.centerone.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 18:03:44 -0700 To: , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Ralph Forsythe Subject: Re: qmail + 1 million users In-Reply-To: <63336.200.67.190.71.1036448254.squirrel@mail.unixmexico.ne t> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can't really say on the load balancing, but for the other stuff: Your system is probably slow because of the swapping - that's a lot of=20 continuous CPU and disk activity to slam it. I'd say look at the total=20 memory usage you have now (ram + swap), figure your growth in and scale=20 accordingly leaving extra ram on top of that. You should avoid swapping at= =20 all costs. The dual CPU is good, get the most you can afford there. Your main=20 bottleneck will be the disks - I recommend you actually run more than 2, if= =20 you can get a high performance RAID controller and several disks running=20 the load will be split across the spindles and you'll see a major=20 performance gain, plus data security. With 1 million users I assume you=20 can afford this. If you're load balancing you need to figure out how to replicate the data=20 across servers. That introduces a lot of complexity into the equation,=20 since I'm sure there are multiple ways to accomplish what you need but=20 finding the best one for your scenario and budget could be tricky... -rf At 04:17 PM 11/4/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Hi all > >i have almost 1 million users and i am using qmail with vpopmail >right now i have a compaq proliant 2 procesors p III and 1GB ram >users have 2MB Quota but the servers is geting slow, and i am using almost >all my swap partition (85%) what hardware do you recomend for this server >and how can i balance the load on the server > >I am thinking on a dual xeon DELL poweredge 6600 with 6GB ram and two 73Gb >SCSI > >Thanks > > >----------------------------------------- >"UNIXMEXICO la comunidad *nix en todo M=E9xico!" >http://www.unixmexico.org/ > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 4 17:15:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2165337B401 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw1-out.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF47B43E7B for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:15:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virus-gate.meiway.com [212.73.210.91]) by mgw1-out.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 9F1BEEF69E for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 01:53:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.meiway.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DFC815D009 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 02:22:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977CA5D008 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 02:22:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from tx0-go2france-c.Go2France.com [66.64.14.18] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id ADC9A52027C; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 02:24:25 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20021104185046.026b3678@mail.go2france.com> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@mail.go2france.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:05:59 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: qmail + 1 million users In-Reply-To: <63336.200.67.190.71.1036448254.squirrel@mail.unixmexico.ne t> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >i have almost 1 million users and i am using qmail with vpopmail >right now i have a compaq proliant 2 procesors p III and 1GB ram what disk? how many disks? >users have 2MB Quota but the servers is geting slow, and i am using almost >all my swap partition (85%) double your main ram to 2 GB. > what hardware do you recomend for this server >and how can i balance the load on the server I wouldn't replace that server's hardware as a first step, but rather I'd off-load SMTP in/out with internet from that machine to 2 separate machines as MX gateways. This should free up a lot of mailbox server resources simply and quickly. Plus with the MX's as anti-abuse gateways, you'd probably reject at least 20% to 90% of incoming mail as spam. btw, postfix has been tested faster than qmail for local deliveries. :)) But I wouldn't horses now, you have archictectural improvements that will yield more. >I am thinking on a dual xeon DELL poweredge 6600 with 6GB ram and two 73Gb >SCSI I guess you mean two 73 gb in RAID1 ? or are you running 1 million mailboxes without mirrored disks? You are probably suffering primarily from disk congestion. No matter what MTA, you should have your mailqueue, mailboxes and logging on different drives and/or controllers. Maybe send the logging to a separate log server to remove that disk i/o from the local disks. Len To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 4 17:15:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8123737B401 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from blue.gerhardt-it.com (gw.gerhardt-it.com [204.83.38.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BA143E42 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:15:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott@g-it.ca) Received: from [24.71.178.119] (h24-71-178-119.ss.shawcable.net [24.71.178.119]) by blue.gerhardt-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7412F100B1; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:15:49 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:15:40 -0600 Subject: Re: qmail + 1 million users From: Scott Gerhardt To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021104175841.024c8b58@mail.centerone.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm, 1,000,000 users with 2MB quota each will require 2TB of disk space minimum! You will need an external fiber channel or similar storage array. On 11/4/02 7:03 PM, "Ralph Forsythe" wrote: > I can't really say on the load balancing, but for the other stuff: >=20 > Your system is probably slow because of the swapping - that's a lot of > continuous CPU and disk activity to slam it. I'd say look at the total > memory usage you have now (ram + swap), figure your growth in and scale > accordingly leaving extra ram on top of that. You should avoid swapping = at > all costs. >=20 > The dual CPU is good, get the most you can afford there. Your main > bottleneck will be the disks - I recommend you actually run more than 2, = if > you can get a high performance RAID controller and several disks running > the load will be split across the spindles and you'll see a major > performance gain, plus data security. With 1 million users I assume you > can afford this. >=20 > If you're load balancing you need to figure out how to replicate the data > across servers. That introduces a lot of complexity into the equation, > since I'm sure there are multiple ways to accomplish what you need but > finding the best one for your scenario and budget could be tricky... >=20 > -rf >=20 > At 04:17 PM 11/4/2002 -0600, you wrote: >> Hi all >>=20 >> i have almost 1 million users and i am using qmail with vpopmail >> right now i have a compaq proliant 2 procesors p III and 1GB ram >> users have 2MB Quota but the servers is geting slow, and i am using almo= st >> all my swap partition (85%) what hardware do you recomend for this serve= r >> and how can i balance the load on the server >>=20 >> I am thinking on a dual xeon DELL poweredge 6600 with 6GB ram and two 73= Gb >> SCSI >>=20 >> Thanks >>=20 >>=20 >> ----------------------------------------- >> "UNIXMEXICO la comunidad *nix en todo M=E9xico!" >> http://www.unixmexico.org/ >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message --=20 Scott Gerhardt, P.Geo. Gerhardt Information Technologies [G-IT] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 4 23:57: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6C537B401 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 23:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.voljatel.si (mail.voljatel.si [217.72.64.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF2D43E6E for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 23:56:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jaka.erjavec@telemach.net) Received: from I.own.voljatel.net (I.own.voljatel.net [217.72.76.200]) by mail.voljatel.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA914A313; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:56:46 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jaka Erjavec Reply-To: jaka.erjavec@telemach.net To: Subject: Re: qmail + 1 million users Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:58:17 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: In-Reply-To: Cc: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200211050858.17454.jaka.erjavec@telemach.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Maybe this question is a bit out of the topic but I am wondering how are = you=20 handeling authentication for all this users. You are probably not using=20 system users, or do you?=20 Thanks, Jaka=20 On Tuesday 05 November 2002 02:15, Scott Gerhardt wrote: > Hmm, 1,000,000 users with 2MB quota each will require 2TB of disk space > minimum! You will need an external fiber channel or similar storage ar= ray. > > On 11/4/02 7:03 PM, "Ralph Forsythe" wrote: > > I can't really say on the load balancing, but for the other stuff: > > > > Your system is probably slow because of the swapping - that's a lot o= f > > continuous CPU and disk activity to slam it. I'd say look at the tot= al > > memory usage you have now (ram + swap), figure your growth in and sca= le > > accordingly leaving extra ram on top of that. You should avoid swapp= ing > > at all costs. > > > > The dual CPU is good, get the most you can afford there. Your main > > bottleneck will be the disks - I recommend you actually run more than= 2, > > if you can get a high performance RAID controller and several disks > > running the load will be split across the spindles and you'll see a m= ajor > > performance gain, plus data security. With 1 million users I assume = you > > can afford this. > > > > If you're load balancing you need to figure out how to replicate the = data > > across servers. That introduces a lot of complexity into the equatio= n, > > since I'm sure there are multiple ways to accomplish what you need bu= t > > finding the best one for your scenario and budget could be tricky... > > > > -rf > > > > At 04:17 PM 11/4/2002 -0600, you wrote: > >> Hi all > >> > >> i have almost 1 million users and i am using qmail with vpopmail > >> right now i have a compaq proliant 2 procesors p III and 1GB ram > >> users have 2MB Quota but the servers is geting slow, and i am using > >> almost all my swap partition (85%) what hardware do you recomend for > >> this server and how can i balance the load on the server > >> > >> I am thinking on a dual xeon DELL poweredge 6600 with 6GB ram and tw= o > >> 73Gb SCSI > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> ----------------------------------------- > >> "UNIXMEXICO la comunidad *nix en todo M=E9xico!" > >> http://www.unixmexico.org/ > >> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 1:40:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22A937B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 01:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F8D43E6E for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 01:40:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 188z9m-0004jT-00; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:33:54 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:33:41 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Scott Gerhardt Cc: nbari@unixmexico.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qmail + 1 million users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Scott Gerhardt wrote: > Hmm, 1,000,000 users with 2MB quota each will require 2TB of disk space > minimum! You will need an external fiber channel or similar storage array. It has been a long time since I've seen a mail server with enough storage to handle each mailbox at 100% capacity. Most people check their mail regularly, and have empty boxes. In fact, on one mail server I've seen, the total daily delivered volume of e-mail (7GB) exceeds the total free space (5GB), but yet it never fills up, as most of are checking their e-mail constantly, so the number of e-mails in and out is roughly the same. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 2: 7:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B50137B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 02:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.microlink.lt (mail.microlink.lt [213.197.128.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B7E43E6E for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 02:07:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from domas@mail.lt) Received: from mail.lt (office.microlink.lt [213.197.128.76]) by mail.microlink.lt (MicroLink Data mail) with ESMTP id 8567E1132C7 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:07:11 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <3DC7982A.6060008@mail.lt> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 12:06:34 +0200 From: Domas Mituzas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qmail + 1 million users References: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.65.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scott Gerhardt wrote: > Hmm, 1,000,000 users with 2MB quota each will require 2TB of disk space > minimum! You will need an external fiber channel or similar storage array. We've got ~300,000 webmail/pop3 users with 8M quota each, and they all take about 250G. Doing exact multiplication is spending too much money... Cheers, Domas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 2:11:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77C937B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 02:11:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from free.fr (technocentr.donpac.ru [217.107.129.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D254743E77 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 02:11:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francois.deslandes@free.fr) Reply-To: Message-ID: <034a82b01c7b$7862d8e3$6ac05ec0@qmlkmi> From: To: francois.deslandes@free.fr Subject: EmailsMy Web PAge 0431kVbH1-185CBaH973-19 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 23:57:34 +1000 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey cutie how are you its Debbie your web cam girl I wanted to let you know where you can find me now I had to move my site. http://www.debbieshomepage.com Come see what I can do for you!! 1084uQKM7-007xGjY5701BjGy0-945jLxl31 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 4:53:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D51F37B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB1943E88 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:53:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [210.49.76.164] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5324aadf) with ESMTP id mvciaaaa for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:53:34 +1100 Message-ID: <3DC7BF4C.6000707@quake.com.au> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 23:53:32 +1100 From: Kal Torak Organization: Quake Networking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020311 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lewis Watson Cc: freebsd-isp@freeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Scripting "adduser" References: <98940-22002110311233288@M2W081.mail2web.com> <3DC4CB81.8040202@quake.com.au> <002a01c28365$fe194640$a977ca41@yogi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lewis Watson wrote: > >>I wrote a program in perl for a college to add accounts for >>students to the system from a flat text file with comma >>seperated fields... >> >>If you interested I can give you that, it should be easy to >>change it for your needs or maybe I can even do customize it >>for you.. Anyway let me know if your interested... > > > > I would like to see this script. I had a script for linux that I used to add > new accounts but converting over from linux to freebsd has me moving in > several directions at once. If you have this script I would like to see it. > Thanks. Sure I will dig around an get it for you.. Its really only in alpha stages tho, since they cut the job short and were going to finish it them selfs.. How Im not sure since none of them knew perl, but oh well not my problem I guess.. Perhaps I will work on it more and make it something people would actualy use.. Right now most things are hardcoded for the task it was ment for.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 6:14:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A8337B404 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:14:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net (web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net [206.47.131.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 324A843E3B for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:14:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@hawk-systems.com) Received: (qmail 42279 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2002 14:14:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1) (24.157.103.51) by web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net with SMTP; 5 Nov 2002 14:14:46 -0000 From: "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" To: "Tom Samplonius" , "Scott Gerhardt" Cc: , Subject: RE: qmail + 1 million users Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:14:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> Hmm, 1,000,000 users with 2MB quota each will require 2TB of disk space >> minimum! You will need an external fiber channel or similar storage array. > > It has been a long time since I've seen a mail server with enough >storage to handle each mailbox at 100% capacity. Most people check their >mail regularly, and have empty boxes. In fact, on one mail server I've >seen, the total daily delivered volume of e-mail (7GB) exceeds the total >free space (5GB), but yet it never fills up, as most of are checking their >e-mail constantly, so the number of e-mails in and out is roughly the >same. That said, the volume of users he is talking putting on two 73GB drives... the potential for running into storage problems is high. ON a smaller scale, we have a server with 500 users, also using webmail interface (so some mail retention factors on the server) with each user set at 100mb limit per mailbox... all served off a 20gb partition for the maildirectories... currently the storage requirement is around 350mb. Another server with approximately 1300 users currently requires just under 1GB of storage. Alot will depend on HIS usage... a free or hotmail type service will result in a significant number of accounts that collect mail and are never emptied, thus he better have the maildir on a seperate parittion that won't crash and burn when he taps out the storage he has allocated to the maildirs. To the question though, the suggestions so far I am in agreement with... throw more ram at the swapfile problem, multiple smaller scsi disks will allow faster rw at raid1. If you are not wanting to totally overhaul the system, placing your swap (and systems files) on seperate disks than your mail storage may help by reducing accesses to the same drive(s)... depends on your raid config. Definately look into the cost of installing gateway SMTP servers as recommended, and equip them with spam filtering. That will probably knock off 30% or more of your volume, and give you a valueadd(if users are paying) at the same time. We just started looking at postini as as alternative for what we are currently running... havn't sifted through the effect on bandwidth yet to provide recommendation though. Cheers, Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 6:41:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAE937B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns3.unixmexico.net (ns3.unixmexico.net [64.141.69.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D83243E42 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:41:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbari@unixmexico.com) Received: (qmail 9352 invoked by uid 85); 5 Nov 2002 14:41:08 -0000 Received: from nbari@unixmexico.com by ns1.unixmexico.net by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.14 ( Clear:. Processed in 0.0161 secs); 05 Nov 2002 14:41:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO unixmexico.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.unixmexico.net with SMTP; 5 Nov 2002 14:41:07 -0000 Received: from 200.67.190.71 (SquirrelMail authenticated user nbari@unixmexico.com) by mail.unixmexico.net with HTTP; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:41:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <61336.200.67.190.71.1036507267.squirrel@mail.unixmexico.net> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:41:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: qmail + 1 million users From: To: In-Reply-To: <200211050858.17454.jaka.erjavec@telemach.net> References: <200211050858.17454.jaka.erjavec@telemach.net> X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Cc: , X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.9) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am using mysql authentication for all users (i use vpopmail vchkpw) what do you recomend for authentification of all users ? > Hello, > > Maybe this question is a bit out of the topic but I am wondering how are > you handeling authentication for all this users. You are probably not > using system users, or do you? > > Thanks, > Jaka > > On Tuesday 05 November 2002 02:15, Scott Gerhardt wrote: >> Hmm, 1,000,000 users with 2MB quota each will require 2TB of disk >> space minimum! You will need an external fiber channel or similar >> storage array. >> >> On 11/4/02 7:03 PM, "Ralph Forsythe" wrote: >> > I can't really say on the load balancing, but for the other stuff: >> > >> > Your system is probably slow because of the swapping - that's a lot >> of continuous CPU and disk activity to slam it. I'd say look at the >> total memory usage you have now (ram + swap), figure your growth in >> and scale accordingly leaving extra ram on top of that. You should >> avoid swapping at all costs. >> > >> > The dual CPU is good, get the most you can afford there. Your main >> bottleneck will be the disks - I recommend you actually run more >> than 2, if you can get a high performance RAID controller and >> several disks running the load will be split across the spindles and >> you'll see a major performance gain, plus data security. With 1 >> million users I assume you can afford this. >> > >> > If you're load balancing you need to figure out how to replicate the >> data across servers. That introduces a lot of complexity into the >> equation, since I'm sure there are multiple ways to accomplish what >> you need but finding the best one for your scenario and budget could >> be tricky... >> > >> > -rf >> > >> > At 04:17 PM 11/4/2002 -0600, you wrote: >> >> Hi all >> >> >> >> i have almost 1 million users and i am using qmail with vpopmail >> right now i have a compaq proliant 2 procesors p III and 1GB ram >> users have 2MB Quota but the servers is geting slow, and i am using >> almost all my swap partition (85%) what hardware do you recomend >> for this server and how can i balance the load on the server >> >> >> >> I am thinking on a dual xeon DELL poweredge 6600 with 6GB ram and >> two 73Gb SCSI >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------- >> >> "UNIXMEXICO la comunidad *nix en todo México!" >> >> http://www.unixmexico.org/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ----------------------------------------- "UNIXMEXICO la comunidad *nix en todo México!" http://www.unixmexico.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 7:40:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8606037B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:40:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from stout.eaznet.com (stout.eaznet.com [63.229.182.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B4943E42 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:40:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from Eddie.eaznet.com (linksysrtr.eaznet.com [63.229.182.14]) by stout.eaznet.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id gA5FdqT51230; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:39:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021105083935.03251d18@mail.eaznet.com> X-Sender: eddie@mail.eaznet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:40:53 -0700 To: "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" , "Tom Samplonius" , "Scott Gerhardt" From: EAZNet - Eddie Fry Subject: gateway mail server WAS qmail + 1 million users Cc: , In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dave, What are you using for gateway mail servers and SPAM filtering? I have been looking for a solution to this problem, but have not been satisfied. Thanks, Eddie At 09:14 AM 11/5/2002 -0500, Dave [Hawk-Systems] wrote: > >> Hmm, 1,000,000 users with 2MB quota each will require 2TB of disk space > >> minimum! You will need an external fiber channel or similar storage > array. > > > > It has been a long time since I've seen a mail server with enough > >storage to handle each mailbox at 100% capacity. Most people check their > >mail regularly, and have empty boxes. In fact, on one mail server I've > >seen, the total daily delivered volume of e-mail (7GB) exceeds the total > >free space (5GB), but yet it never fills up, as most of are checking their > >e-mail constantly, so the number of e-mails in and out is roughly the > >same. > >That said, the volume of users he is talking putting on two 73GB >drives... the >potential for running into storage problems is high. ON a smaller scale, we >have a server with 500 users, also using webmail interface (so some mail >retention factors on the server) with each user set at 100mb limit per >mailbox... all served off a 20gb partition for the maildirectories... >currently the storage requirement is around 350mb. Another server with >approximately 1300 users currently requires just under 1GB of storage. > >Alot will depend on HIS usage... a free or hotmail type service will >result in >a significant number of accounts that collect mail and are never emptied, thus >he better have the maildir on a seperate parittion that won't crash and burn >when he taps out the storage he has allocated to the maildirs. > >To the question though, the suggestions so far I am in agreement with... >throw >more ram at the swapfile problem, multiple smaller scsi disks will allow >faster >rw at raid1. If you are not wanting to totally overhaul the system, placing >your swap (and systems files) on seperate disks than your mail storage may >help >by reducing accesses to the same drive(s)... depends on your raid config. > >Definately look into the cost of installing gateway SMTP servers as >recommended, >and equip them with spam filtering. That will probably knock off 30% or >more of >your volume, and give you a valueadd(if users are paying) at the same >time. We >just started looking at postini as as alternative for what we are currently >running... havn't sifted through the effect on bandwidth yet to provide >recommendation though. > >Cheers, > >Dave > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 7:51:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D234D37B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net (web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net [206.47.131.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B680B43E77 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:51:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@hawk-systems.com) Received: (qmail 49453 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2002 15:51:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1) (24.157.103.51) by web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net with SMTP; 5 Nov 2002 15:51:51 -0000 From: "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" To: "EAZNet - Eddie Fry" , "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" , "Tom Samplonius" , "Scott Gerhardt" Cc: , Subject: RE: gateway mail server WAS qmail + 1 million users Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:51:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021105083935.03251d18@mail.eaznet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >What are you using for gateway mail servers and SPAM filtering? I have >been looking for a solution to this problem, but have not been satisfied. > We aren't... Have tried a few things and havn't been terribly satisfied(and not willing to recommend any that we have tried or looked at). thus our move to try and outsource it to Postini. Am open to other recommendations, but the amount of work involved in keeping up with filters and so forth make it really hard to justify attemtpting it internally. spam and virii, the new cold war. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 8: 0:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B558037B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw1-out.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6D943E4A for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:00:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virus-gate.meiway.com [212.73.210.91]) by mgw1-out.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 7A1B1EF6A5 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:38:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.meiway.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C6AC75D009 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:07:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FF95D008 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:07:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from tx0-go2france-c.Go2France.com [66.64.14.18] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AD57355D0276; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:09:59 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20021105095829.024998c8@mail.go2france.com> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@mail.go2france.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:00:06 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: gateway mail server WAS qmail + 1 million users In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021105083935.03251d18@mail.eaznet.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >What are you using for gateway mail servers and SPAM filtering? I have >been looking for a solution to this problem, but have not been satisfied. M IMGate is in use at 100's of ISP's of all sizes, with enthusiastic satisfaction, afaik. It's free. IMGate.MEIway.com Len To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 8: 4:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB1337B404 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from wow.atlasta.net (wow.atlasta.net [12.129.13.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5262B43E75 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:04:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drais@wow.atlasta.net) Received: from wow.atlasta.net (localhost.atlasta.net [127.0.0.1]) by wow.atlasta.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gA5G4ALk034666; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (drais@localhost) by wow.atlasta.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id gA5G49HW034663; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:04:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:04:09 -0800 (PST) From: David Raistrick To: Domas Mituzas Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: larger backup solutions In-Reply-To: <3DC6EB50.6090505@mail.lt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Domas Mituzas wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder what backup solutions (1-10T) are best suited for FreeBSD > datacenters. What I came to is... Sony StorStation LIB162, HP > StorageWorks, HP SureStore libraries, Hitachi Thunder 9200? Or is it > still cheapest way to build boxes stuffed with IDE hard drives? I picked up an Overland DLT LoaderXPress LXL8110 (though the vendors seem to drop one of the 1's often and call it the LXL810..). 10 DLT8k capacity, one drive. They have other tape formats available as well, though the DLT is the only one I looked at. It works great with amanda and chg-chio (and FreeBSD of course!). Only problem I had is that when chg-chio loops back from tape 10 to tape 1, it doesnt read the tape label correctly...so it then skips on to tape 2. I wrote a wrapper that handles the tape changing for me. (It checks to see what tape is next, checks what slot that tape should be in, then advances to that slot.) Just my few cents. :) ...david --- david raistrick drais@atlasta.net http://www.expita.com/nomime.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 9:17: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CD237B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from blue.centerone.com (blue.centerone.com [204.133.183.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E1A43E3B for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:17:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rf-list@centerone.com) Received: from localhost (rf-list@localhost) by blue.centerone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10078 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:27:32 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:27:32 -0700 (MST) From: Ralph Forsythe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qmail + 1 million users In-Reply-To: <61336.200.67.190.71.1036507267.squirrel@mail.unixmexico.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 nbari@unixmexico.com wrote: > I am using mysql authentication for all users (i use vpopmail vchkpw) > > what do you recomend for authentification of all users ? > That, or LDAP. Either way works well, assuming the DB server is performance tuned a bit for a million users... :) -rf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 11:58: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F27637B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:58:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (floyd.gnulife.org [199.86.41.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC2A43E4A for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:58:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BE303432C9; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:11:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0119432C6 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:11:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:11:37 -0600 (CST) From: Jamie To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with rdist Message-ID: <20021105140229.V59324-100000@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am having some problems with rdist. I am trying to mirror my mail spool on another machine. When I run rdist though it is adding or changing any files that have been added or recently altered, but if I delete an account on the master server, it isn't deleted on the "slave". This is what my distfile looks like (buildup_mail.txt): MAIL = ( /var/mail /etc/mail/access /etc/mail/sendmail.cf ) UNIXBAX = ( unixbackup.foo.net ) ${MAIL} -> ${UNIXBAX} install -i /usr/backup/mail/; and I am running it like this: rdist -R -P /usr/local/bin/ssh1 -f ./buildup_mail.txt ...A snippet from the man page says my "-R" is in the right place: SYNOPSIS rdist [-nqbRhivwyD] [-P rshcmd] [-f distfile] [-d var=value] [-m host] [name ...] . . . -R Remove extraneous files. If a directory is being updated, any files that exist on the remote host that do not exist in the master directory are removed. This is useful for maintaining truly identical copies of directories. . . . ......What is particularily odd is that it works with a few files. I made a test directory with three files in it and used the same configuration on it. I then deleted one of the three files on the master and ran rdist again. I noticed it was deleted on the slave as it should be. Could it have something to do with the number of files I am trying to rdist? Any other ideas? Thanks, - Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 13:58:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62CD37B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from web12104.mail.yahoo.com (web12104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB07A43E42 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:58:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from akachler@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20021105215835.63839.qmail@web12104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.118.129.203] by web12104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 13:58:35 PST Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:58:35 -0800 (PST) From: Arie Kachler Subject: sendmail + sql To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Can anybody give me pointers on how to integrate Sendmail with SQL maps (postgres or mysql)? I've found a few pages, but would like your opinion as to what works well. Thanks. Arie Kachler __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 14:14:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351B737B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.britesite.net (mx1.britesite.net [63.175.65.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABF543E42 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:14:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lanshark@bsinet.net) Received: from station9 (gw1-fw.britesite.net [63.175.65.254]) by mx1.britesite.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA5MDbv17650 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:13:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lanshark@bsinet.net) Message-ID: <002b01c28519$57716100$1701a8c0@britesite.net> From: "Edward Shabotinsky" To: References: <20021105215835.63839.qmail@web12104.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: sendmail + sql Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:18:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You still have to have local users unless sendmail, pop server and local delivery agent needs to be patched. works fine, nothing fancy I would look something like LDAP. Regards. P.S. You can try on www.freshmeat.net something like sendmail+mysql or similar. ------------------------------------- Edward Shabotinsky eshabot@bsinet.net Systems Engineer BriteSiteInet Inc. www.bsinet.net 773-772-7300 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arie Kachler" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:58 PM Subject: sendmail + sql > Hello, > > Can anybody give me pointers on how to integrate > Sendmail with SQL maps (postgres or mysql)? > I've found a few pages, but would like your opinion as > to what works well. > > Thanks. > > Arie Kachler > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 14:16:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5185A37B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:16:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from beta.stelesys.com (c-24-98-86-57.atl.client2.attbi.com [24.98.86.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F51543E42 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:16:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jerry@syslog.org) Received: from dummy-209-134-164-47.iss.net ([209.134.164.47] helo=jbelldesktop) by beta.stelesys.com with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.10) id 189BzW-000Fa6-00; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:16:10 -0500 Message-ID: <00ce01c28518$f0241100$2fa486d1@iss.local> From: "Jerry Bell" To: "Arie Kachler" , References: <20021105215835.63839.qmail@web12104.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: sendmail + sql Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:16:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I ended up dumping sendmail because of this. Any support that sendmail does have is going to be a hack, so I decided to go with exim. It's much nicer (in my opinion) Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arie Kachler" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:58 PM Subject: sendmail + sql > Hello, > > Can anybody give me pointers on how to integrate > Sendmail with SQL maps (postgres or mysql)? > I've found a few pages, but would like your opinion as > to what works well. > > Thanks. > > Arie Kachler > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 5 21:31:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B5B37B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:31:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns3.unixmexico.net (ns3.unixmexico.net [64.141.69.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D55A43E77 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:31:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbari@unixmexico.com) Received: (qmail 2399 invoked by uid 85); 6 Nov 2002 05:31:45 -0000 Received: from nbari@unixmexico.com by ns1.unixmexico.net by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.14 ( Clear:. Processed in 0.108794 secs); 06 Nov 2002 05:31:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO unixmexico.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.unixmexico.net with SMTP; 6 Nov 2002 05:31:44 -0000 Received: from 148.243.211.1 (SquirrelMail authenticated user nbari@unixmexico.com) by mail.unixmexico.net with HTTP; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:31:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <35438.148.243.211.1.1036560704.squirrel@mail.unixmexico.net> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:31:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: how to stop massive mail or chains From: To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.9) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am using qmail and blocking users or domains with the badmailfrom file under /var/qmail/control/ but is there any way to stop massive mail or bombs so that users can not sen mail to more that 3 or X number of recipients ? ----------------------------------------- "UNIXMEXICO la comunidad *nix en todo México!" http://www.unixmexico.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 6 7:50:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CB537B401 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (floyd.gnulife.org [199.86.41.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEF643E6E for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:50:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BB151432C9; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:04:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9E5432C6 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:04:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:04:04 -0600 (CST) From: Jamie To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: rdist -R broken?? Message-ID: <20021106095839.W59511-100000@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is rdist -R broken to some degree? I have noticed it removes files on the slave that were deleted on the master, but only when there are a few files. It seems that on higher numbers of files (about 2000), this function breaks down, and files deleted on the master are no longer deleted on the slave. I haven't been able to find any documentation that supports this, so I am not 100% certain it isn't just a mistake I'm making. Is anyone aware of this situation? This is on a FreeBSD 4.5 machine. I am not sure which version of rdist it is, but it was built when the OS was installed so it should be the verions that came with 4.5. Thanks! - Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 6 7:53:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2E337B401 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.purplecat.net (mx1.purplecat.net [208.133.44.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F18F43E77 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:53:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@skyrunner.net) Received: (qmail 99870 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2002 15:52:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO micron) (208.150.25.130) by mx1.skyrunner.net with SMTP; 6 Nov 2002 15:52:13 -0000 From: "Peter Brezny" To: Subject: new motherboard for router system Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:53:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everyone, I'm looking for a new motherboard to use with freebsd as a router system. It's going to have two adaptec quartet 64 4 port fast ethernet controllers in it. I'd like something with multiple 64 bit pci buses. Anyone have something they find works well for them? Thanks. Peter Brezny Skyrunner.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 6 8:21: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD0537B401 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from blue.centerone.com (blue.centerone.com [204.133.183.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D6943E42 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:21:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rf-list@centerone.com) Received: from localhost (rf-list@localhost) by blue.centerone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04722; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:31:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:31:20 -0700 (MST) From: Ralph Forsythe To: Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new motherboard for router system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not sure what you should use, but I would say stay away from Abit. There was a recent story on slashdot about motherboards with inferior capacitors self destructing - most of the readers comments suggested Abit was the worst of them all. On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Peter Brezny wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm looking for a new motherboard to use with freebsd as a router system. > > It's going to have two adaptec quartet 64 4 port fast ethernet controllers > in it. > > I'd like something with multiple 64 bit pci buses. > > Anyone have something they find works well for them? > > Thanks. > > > Peter Brezny > Skyrunner.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 6 11:40:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1226337B401 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sandvine.com (sandvine.com [199.243.201.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8823B43E75 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from don@sandvine.com) Received: by mail.sandvine.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <42S9VZ2T>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:40:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Bowman To: 'Peter Brezny' , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: new motherboard for router system Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:40:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Peter Brezny [mailto:peter@skyrunner.net] > I very much like the supermicro: http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/MotherBoards/E7500/P4DPR-8G2+.htm It has two PCI busses, and a dual GE on board, 1 or 2 XEON, works well with freebsd 4.7 --don (don@sandvine.com www.sandvine.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 6 16:22:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D11937B401 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (atl-28-a-170.atl.dsl.cerfnet.com [63.242.204.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23CF843E75 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:22:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from claudiucon@hotmail.com) Reply-To: Message-ID: <022a00a34a0a$3854b0e4$1bc58eb0@ircpal> From: To: claudiucon@hotmail.com Subject: Had To Move 54-2 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:22:25 +0100 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey there it has been a little while now. Its Angelica what have you been up to. I have been so busy lately working on my new site. I just had my programmer redesign my site. I wanted to let you know that I had to move it to http://www.brookspersonalpage.com ....Anyway I am online all the time come see me and we can chat.... I have a drip running down my leg already thinking about you. :) Angelicashomepage.com 9203RlbI8-971WfmA8534OYVT8-231IGl30 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 6 22:40:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28A137B401 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from yama.geminisolutions.com (yama.geminisolutions.com [216.57.214.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C9143E4A for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:40:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (0-3pool16-66.nas8.bellevue1.wa.us.da.qwest.net [67.3.16.66]) by yama.geminisolutions.com (8.12.3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA76UCAo018675; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:30:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:40:36 -0800 Subject: Re: new motherboard for router system From: Michael DeMan To: Peter Brezny , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've always been impressed with the quality from SuperMicro. However we select the Tyan 2518GNR as our new standard for all hardware about 8 months ago. The Tyan board fits our requirements well. It isn't the greatest/fastest board, but it has a lot of stuff we like. It has dual Intel (fxp) ethernet, which allows us to leverage the ethernet interface code for VLANs, supports dual CPU PIII processors and supports 4GB of RAM. It fits in a 1U chassis nicely too. We find these well equipped for our basic server tasks, as well as for routers. One other feature they have that we like is the on-board Promise IDE RAID-1 controller. We are fully aware of the limitations of IDE vs. SCSI, but for what we do, super-high disk access is not an issue, only reliability. We can buy IDE drives for a fraction of the cost we can SCSI, and can spare them on the shelf with a minimum of cost and hot-swap them as needed. The 80GB Seagate 38021 has proven very reliable for us but are still spec'd in IDE fashion as '3 year' with '11 hours per day' of use. Still, they seem to hold out very well so far, at least compared to the IBM junk we got involved with last year. If you are looking at multiple Adaptec Quartet cards, I would ask if you are aware of what can be done with VLAN technology. We used to think that we needed a card per interface, but now use 1Gig cards with multiple interfaces and VLANs to manage in excess of 100 LAN's per interface with good performance. Our deployments are to serve offices in building/office-park environments, rather than data-center, so we don't really see steady high volume traffic, so that might make a difference. Anyway, for us, the Tyan gave us the right 'bang for the buck'. My 2 cents, - mike On 11/6/02 7:53 AM, "Peter Brezny" wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm looking for a new motherboard to use with freebsd as a router system. > > It's going to have two adaptec quartet 64 4 port fast ethernet controllers > in it. > > I'd like something with multiple 64 bit pci buses. > > Anyone have something they find works well for them? > > Thanks. > > > Peter Brezny > Skyrunner.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Michael F. DeMan Director of Technology OpenAccess Internet Services 1305 11th St., 3rd Floor Bellingham, WA 98225 Tel 360-647-0785 x204 Fax 360-738-9785 michael@staff.openaccess.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 6 23:11:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D09737B401 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:11:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from tin.blazingdot.com (tin.blazingdot.com [207.154.84.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8DFC43E42 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:11:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@tin.blazingdot.com) Received: (qmail 30003 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Nov 2002 07:11:43 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:11:43 -0800 From: Marcus Reid To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: New root zone hint file published Message-ID: <20021107071143.GB1182@blazingdot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Coffee-Level: high Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello: Anybody running a nameserver might be interested to know that a new root zone hint file has been published and is available at: ftp://FTP.RS.INTERNIC.NET/domain/named.root Marcus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 6 23:38:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBAF37B401 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net (web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net [206.47.131.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1818643E4A for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:38:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@hawk-systems.com) Received: (qmail 638 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2002 07:42:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1) (24.157.103.51) by web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net with SMTP; 7 Nov 2002 07:42:04 -0000 From: "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" To: "Ralph Forsythe" , "Peter Brezny" Cc: Subject: RE: new motherboard for router system Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 02:38:31 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Not sure what you should use, but I would say stay away from Abit. There >was a recent story on slashdot about motherboards with inferior capacitors >self destructing - most of the readers comments suggested Abit was the >worst of them all. a few months ago I would have disagreed with you as I have had fabulous experience with ABIT over approximately 25 or so workstations and servers... recently have experienced failure in 3 ABIT BF6 motherboards.. which either simply stopped being responsive (no POST at all), or alarmed without POSTing (while impossible to be temperature replated). Have 1 more of this model in production... and it is slated for replacement this weekend before we have another inopportune failure. As such, I would agree, stay away from ABIT, or at the least, buyer beware... there evidently is a lifespan ofsome fo the componants. :( Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 5: 8:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D4837B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms3.mail2000.com.tw (ms3.mail2000.com.tw [211.72.252.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9308043E75 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjs@mail2000.com.tw) Received: from 211.72.252.247 by ms3.mail2000.com.tw with Mail2000 ESMTP Server V2.71M(77847:0:AUTH_RELAY) Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:08:14 +0800 (CST); (envelope-from ) Received: By OpenMail Mailer;Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:08:14 +0800 (CST) From: "sjs" Reply-To: sjs@mail2000.com.tw Subject: some TCP ports does not reposnd Message-ID: <1036674493.75116.sjs@mail2000.com.tw> To: "" Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:08:13 +0800 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We have a very busy webmail service run on several FreeBSD severs. One server does not respond to smtp/http port until timeout recently. The FreeBSD version is 4.5R. When it happens, I use netstat to list the listen queue is full, and exceeds the backlog size which is 128. Also, I use tcpdump to list both ICMP and TCP traffic, but cannot find anything wrong. Once I reboot the server, everything is fine again. When smtp/http port is unavailable, the other ports can still respond normally. Is there any way to list the IPs on listen queue or to fix this problem. Gareth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 8:22:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F1A37B404 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns3.unixmexico.net (ns3.unixmexico.net [64.141.69.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3FC643E75 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:22:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nbari@unixmexico.com) Received: (qmail 12324 invoked by uid 85); 7 Nov 2002 16:22:16 -0000 Received: from nbari@unixmexico.com by ns1.unixmexico.net by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.14 ( Clear:. Processed in 0.015297 secs); 07 Nov 2002 16:22:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO unixmexico.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.unixmexico.net with SMTP; 7 Nov 2002 16:22:16 -0000 Received: from 200.67.190.71 (SquirrelMail authenticated user nbari@unixmexico.com) by mail.unixmexico.net with HTTP; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:22:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <61667.200.67.190.71.1036686136.squirrel@mail.unixmexico.net> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:22:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: qmail + limit the number of recipients per message From: To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.9) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all how can i limiting the number of recipients per message so I can limit some spammers I´m using qmail on freebsd ----------------------------------------- "UNIXMEXICO la comunidad *nix en todo México!" http://www.unixmexico.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 8:57:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A7F37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from users.munk.nu (213-152-51-194.dsl.eclipse.net.uk [213.152.51.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE8A43E4A for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:57:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from munk@users.munk.nu) Received: from users.munk.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by users.munk.nu (8.12.5/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA7GxV4g045839 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:59:31 GMT (envelope-from munk@users.munk.nu) Received: (from munk@localhost) by users.munk.nu (8.12.5/8.12.3/Submit) id gA7GxVKB045838 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:59:31 GMT Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:59:30 +0000 From: Jez Hancock To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: some TCP ports does not reposnd Message-ID: <20021107165930.GC45543@users.munk.nu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <1036674493.75116.sjs@mail2000.com.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1036674493.75116.sjs@mail2000.com.tw> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:08:13PM +0800, sjs wrote: > Is there any way to list the IPs on listen queue or to > fix this problem. You could look at trafshow (/usr/ports/net/trafshow), which shows you what traffic is passing in and out of a specific network adapter you specify, or perhaps if you utilize IPFilter you could try 'ipfstat -t', which does a similar job, showing network connections in their various states. Sounds to me more like a load problem though, have you checked your logfiles for the relevant services and perhaps increased the logging levels for those services? Regards, Jez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 10:21:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB19037B404 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms3.mail2000.com.tw (ms3.mail2000.com.tw [211.72.252.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA59E43E7B for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:21:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjs@mail2000.com.tw) Received: from 211.72.252.247 by ms3.mail2000.com.tw with Mail2000 ESMTP Server V2.71M(77855:0:AUTH_RELAY) Fri, 08 Nov 2002 02:20:50 +0800 (CST); (envelope-from ) Received: By OpenMail Mailer;Fri, 08 Nov 2002 02:20:46 +0800 (CST) From: "sjs" Reply-To: sjs@mail2000.com.tw Subject: Re: some TCP ports does not reposnd Message-ID: <1036693245.16912.sjs@mail2000.com.tw> To: "" Cc: "" Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 02:20:45 +0800 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> Is there any way to list the IPs on listen queue or to >> fix this problem. >You could look at trafshow (/usr/ports/net/trafshow), which >shows you what traffic is passing in and out of a specific >network adapter you specify, or perhaps if you utilize >IPFilter you could try 'ipfstat -t', which does a similar >job, showing network connections in their various states. > >Sounds to me more like a load problem though, have you checked >your logfiles for the relevant services and perhaps increased >the logging levels for those services? Thanks for the suggestions. I am very sure that this is not a load problem. When smtp/http port is unavailable with timeout, the other ports work fine. The log of both SMTP and HTTP daemon just freezed which means it's waiting for incoming connection. That's the weird point. The listen queue is full, but the daemon cannot get incoming connection by accept(2). Gareth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 12:52:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A676B37B404 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:52:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.internet.dk (smtp.internet.dk [194.19.140.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E19B43E7B for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:52:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (0x50c48aec.adsl-fixed.tele.dk [80.196.138.236]) (authenticated) by smtp.internet.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id gA7Kq8l26744; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:52:08 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01c2869f$951923d0$6805a8c0@gina> From: "Leif Neland" To: "Marcus Reid" , References: <20021107071143.GB1182@blazingdot.com> Subject: Re: New root zone hint file published Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:52:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus Reid" To: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: New root zone hint file published > Hello: > > Anybody running a nameserver might be interested to know that > a new root zone hint file has been published and is available > at: > > ftp://FTP.RS.INTERNIC.NET/domain/named.root > Published, yes. Available, well... ns# ftp ftp.rs.internic.net Connected to ftp.rs.internic.net. in.ftpd: error in loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: Error 23 or ns# ftp ftp.rs.internic.net Connected to ftp.rs.internic.net. in.ftpd: error in loading shared libraries: libpam.so.0: cannot open shared object file: Error 23 or 425 Can't open passive connection: Too many open files in system. Passive mode refused. It seems internic forgot to put a limit on the number of ftp users... Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 13: 1:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C437C37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:01:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from users.munk.nu (213-152-51-194.dsl.eclipse.net.uk [213.152.51.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B464743E6E for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:01:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from munk@users.munk.nu) Received: from users.munk.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by users.munk.nu (8.12.5/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA7L2q4g046847 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:02:53 GMT (envelope-from munk@users.munk.nu) Received: (from munk@localhost) by users.munk.nu (8.12.5/8.12.3/Submit) id gA7L2qII046846 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:02:52 GMT Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:02:52 +0000 From: Jez Hancock To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New root zone hint file published Message-ID: <20021107210252.GA46812@users.munk.nu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021107071143.GB1182@blazingdot.com> <001b01c2869f$951923d0$6805a8c0@gina> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001b01c2869f$951923d0$6805a8c0@gina> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For what it's worth here it is (if you trust me:). A diff show's the only change is to the J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. line... ; This file holds the information on root name servers needed to ; initialize cache of Internet domain name servers ; (e.g. reference this file in the "cache . " ; configuration file of BIND domain name servers). ; ; This file is made available by InterNIC ; under anonymous FTP as ; file /domain/named.root ; on server FTP.INTERNIC.NET ; ; last update: Nov 5, 2002 ; related version of root zone: 2002110501 ; ; ; formerly NS.INTERNIC.NET ; . 3600000 IN NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.41.0.4 ; ; formerly NS1.ISI.EDU ; . 3600000 NS B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.9.0.107 ; ; formerly C.PSI.NET ; . 3600000 NS C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.33.4.12 ; ; formerly TERP.UMD.EDU ; . 3600000 NS D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.8.10.90 ; ; formerly NS.NASA.GOV ; . 3600000 NS E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.203.230.10 ; ; formerly NS.ISC.ORG ; . 3600000 NS F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.5.5.241 ; ; formerly NS.NIC.DDN.MIL ; . 3600000 NS G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.112.36.4 ; ; formerly AOS.ARL.ARMY.MIL ; . 3600000 NS H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 128.63.2.53 ; ; formerly NIC.NORDU.NET ; . 3600000 NS I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.36.148.17 ; ; operated by VeriSign, Inc. ; . 3600000 NS J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.58.128.30 ; ; housed in LINX, operated by RIPE NCC ; . 3600000 NS K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 193.0.14.129 ; ; operated by IANA ; . 3600000 NS L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.32.64.12 ; ; housed in Japan, operated by WIDE ; . 3600000 NS M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 202.12.27.33 ; End of File On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:52:22PM +0100, Leif Neland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marcus Reid" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:11 AM > Subject: New root zone hint file published > > > > Hello: > > > > Anybody running a nameserver might be interested to know that > > a new root zone hint file has been published and is available > > at: > > > > ftp://FTP.RS.INTERNIC.NET/domain/named.root > > > > Published, yes. > Available, well... > > ns# ftp ftp.rs.internic.net > Connected to ftp.rs.internic.net. > in.ftpd: error in loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared > object file: Error 23 > > or > > ns# ftp ftp.rs.internic.net > Connected to ftp.rs.internic.net. > in.ftpd: error in loading shared libraries: libpam.so.0: cannot open shared > object file: Error 23 > > or > > 425 Can't open passive connection: Too many open files in system. > Passive mode refused. > > It seems internic forgot to put a limit on the number of ftp users... > > Leif > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 13: 8:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACAB37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:08:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from skyweb.ca (smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com [216.152.192.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4D143E4A for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:08:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjohnston@skyweb.ca) Received: from mjohnston ([209.5.243.50]) by smtp-2.vancouver.ipapp.com ; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 13:08:38 -0800 From: "Mark Johnston" To: Subject: RE: New root zone hint file published Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:12:06 -0600 Message-ID: <007b01c286a2$5479af40$490fa8c0@MJOHNSTON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20021107210252.GA46812@users.munk.nu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you want that warm, fuzzy, secure feeling, you can also verify the signature on the (perfectly valid) file Jez posted. I'm not confident Outlook isn't brain-damaged WRT attachments, so here's the UU'ed version: begin 644 named.root.sig MB$8$`!$"``8%`CW&]3P`"@D0MA\'2>OF\10"@P;][I13^!?H+LRJ=X%-' ;,K*J[TT`H+@R'C7JZMGN*(VP;;,N&96(TC]R ` end Also, thanks to Marcus for the heads up on the change - I appreciate it. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Jez Hancock Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:03 PM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New root zone hint file published For what it's worth here it is (if you trust me:). A diff show's the only change is to the J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. line... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 13:39: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F0337B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:38:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from scan.pnc.com.au (scan.pnc.com.au [203.13.174.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 17CB243E3B for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:38:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterh@ripewithdecay.com) Received: (qmail 31672 invoked by uid 84); 8 Nov 2002 08:48:34 +1100 Received: from unknown (HELO dialup-14.128.221.203.acc02-high-pen.comindico.com.au) (203.13.174.1) by scan.pnc.com.au with SMTP; 8 Nov 2002 08:48:32 +1100 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:38:52 +1100 (EST) From: Peter Hoskin X-X-Sender: peterh@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au To: Leif Neland Cc: Marcus Reid , Subject: Re: New root zone hint file published In-Reply-To: <001b01c2869f$951923d0$6805a8c0@gina> Message-ID: <20021108083837.M301-100000@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wouldn't your errors indicate a local problem? Regards, Peter Hoskin On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Leif Neland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marcus Reid" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 8:11 AM > Subject: New root zone hint file published > > > > Hello: > > > > Anybody running a nameserver might be interested to know that > > a new root zone hint file has been published and is available > > at: > > > > ftp://FTP.RS.INTERNIC.NET/domain/named.root > > > > Published, yes. > Available, well... > > ns# ftp ftp.rs.internic.net > Connected to ftp.rs.internic.net. > in.ftpd: error in loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared > object file: Error 23 > > or > > ns# ftp ftp.rs.internic.net > Connected to ftp.rs.internic.net. > in.ftpd: error in loading shared libraries: libpam.so.0: cannot open shared > object file: Error 23 > > or > > 425 Can't open passive connection: Too many open files in system. > Passive mode refused. > > It seems internic forgot to put a limit on the number of ftp users... > > Leif > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 13:41:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D0537B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from frontiergeneral.com (adsl-157-2-145.msy.bellsouth.net [66.157.2.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D811F43E42 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:41:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jverrijcke@frontiergeneral.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smtp013.mail.yahou.com) (158.30.30.12) by anther.webhostingtotalk.com with QMQP; 07 Nov 2002 18:42:55 +0300 Reply-To: Message-ID: <005e85a26a5a$8853c4a6$7de66ea3@guhjdk> From: To: jverrijcke@frontiergeneral.com Subject: Hey Whats Up 13-2 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:33:38 +0900 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E1_26C28C6A.A4630D77" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_26C28C6A.A4630D77 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Tm8gbW9yZSBvZiB0aGUgbG9uZWx5IG5pZ2h0cyBzdGF5aW5nIGF0IGhvbWUu IE15UGhvdG9QZXJzb25hbC5jb20gb25seSBpbmNsdWRlcyAxMDAlIHZlcmlm aWVkIG1lbWJlcnMgd2l0aCBwaG90b3MuIEV2ZXJ5b25lIGlzIHJlcXVpcmVk IHRvIHN1Ym1pdCBJRC4NCk1lZXQgcmVhbCB3b21lbi4NCk5vIG1vcmUgZ2Ft ZXMNCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cubXlwaG90b3BlcnNvbmFsLmNvbQ0KMjkzMUNPTXI0 LTY5NEJsWXQ3ODI1d2pCazgtNDYwcmJ5QzgyOTJyV0dzNy0wMTlIcnJGNDMz ME5Pamg1LTAwOFpsbWIwMzkzRFNwTDUtNTk3cmw3Nw== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 13:55:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DEC37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.internet.dk (smtp.internet.dk [194.19.140.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EFC43E3B for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:55:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (0x50c48aec.adsl-fixed.tele.dk [80.196.138.236]) (authenticated) by smtp.internet.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id gA7LtfV01060; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:55:41 +0100 Message-ID: <020501c286a8$761f84c0$6805a8c0@gina> From: "Leif Neland" To: "Peter Hoskin" Cc: "Marcus Reid" , References: <20021108083837.M301-100000@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au> Subject: Re: New root zone hint file published Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:55:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is not Jeopardy. Answers come after questions :-) Look below. > > > > > > Anybody running a nameserver might be interested to know that > > > a new root zone hint file has been published and is available > > > at: > > > > > > ftp://FTP.RS.INTERNIC.NET/domain/named.root > > > > > > > Published, yes. > > Available, well... > > > > ns# ftp ftp.rs.internic.net > > Connected to ftp.rs.internic.net. > > in.ftpd: error in loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared > > object file: Error 23 > > > > or > > > Wouldn't your errors indicate a local problem? > > Regards, > Peter Hoskin in.ftpd is the server. libc.so.6 is on a linux system, not on a FreeBSD, which my ns is. So ftp.rs.internic.net is an overloaded linux machine, it seems. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 14: 4:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F69D37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.internet.dk (smtp.internet.dk [194.19.140.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8330D43E75 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:04:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (0x50c48aec.adsl-fixed.tele.dk [80.196.138.236]) (authenticated) by smtp.internet.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id gA7M4dV02151; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:04:39 +0100 Message-ID: <021401c286a9$b6e34d60$6805a8c0@gina> From: "Leif Neland" To: "Jez Hancock" , References: <20021107071143.GB1182@blazingdot.com> <001b01c2869f$951923d0$6805a8c0@gina> <20021107210252.GA46812@users.munk.nu> Subject: Re: New root zone hint file published Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:04:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jez Hancock" To: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:02 PM Subject: Re: New root zone hint file published > For what it's worth here it is (if you trust me:). > > A diff show's the only change is to the J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. line... Depends... My named.root were from Feb 28, 1997, so I had diff's on J, K and M How old was yours? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 15:58:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE9037B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from users.munk.nu (213-152-51-194.dsl.eclipse.net.uk [213.152.51.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4629E43E3B for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:58:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from munk@users.munk.nu) Received: from users.munk.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by users.munk.nu (8.12.5/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA800L4g052858 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 00:00:21 GMT (envelope-from munk@users.munk.nu) Received: (from munk@localhost) by users.munk.nu (8.12.5/8.12.3/Submit) id gA800Kpn052857 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 00:00:20 GMT Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 00:00:19 +0000 From: Jez Hancock To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New root zone hint file published Message-ID: <20021108000019.GA52784@users.munk.nu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021107071143.GB1182@blazingdot.com> <001b01c2869f$951923d0$6805a8c0@gina> <20021107210252.GA46812@users.munk.nu> <021401c286a9$b6e34d60$6805a8c0@gina> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <021401c286a9$b6e34d60$6805a8c0@gina> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:04:54PM +0100, Leif Neland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jez Hancock" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: New root zone hint file published > > > > For what it's worth here it is (if you trust me:). > > > > A diff show's the only change is to the J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. line... > > Depends... My named.root were from Feb 28, 1997, so I had diff's on J, K > and M > How old was yours? :) Good point: (diff /etc/namedb/named.root.bak /etc/namedb/named.root) 6c6 < ; This file is made available by InterNIC registration services --- > ; This file is made available by InterNIC 9,17c9,13 < ; on server FTP.RS.INTERNIC.NET < ; -OR- under Gopher at RS.INTERNIC.NET < ; under menu InterNIC Registration Services (NSI) < ; submenu InterNIC Registration Archives < ; file named.root < ; < ; last update: Aug 22, 1997 < ; related version of root zone: 1997082200 < ; $FreeBSD: src/etc/namedb/named.root,v 1.9 1999/09/13 17:09:08 peter Exp $ --- > ; on server FTP.INTERNIC.NET > ; > ; last update: Nov 5, 2002 > ; related version of root zone: 2002110501 > ; 64c60 < ; temporarily housed at NSI (InterNIC) --- > ; operated by VeriSign, Inc. 67c63 < J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 198.41.0.10 --- > J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 3600000 A 192.58.128.30 74c70 < ; temporarily housed at ISI (IANA) --- > ; operated by IANA August 1999 by looks of it - that was from the STABLE source:) No doubt the new one will get added to the CVS tree (probably is already). Jez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 17:58:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA8B37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from tin.blazingdot.com (tin.blazingdot.com [207.154.84.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1ADB043E3B for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:58:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcus@tin.blazingdot.com) Received: (qmail 56988 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Nov 2002 01:58:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:58:04 -0800 From: Marcus Reid To: nbari@unixmexico.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qmail + limit the number of recipients per message Message-ID: <20021108015804.GC56715@blazingdot.com> References: <61667.200.67.190.71.1036686136.squirrel@mail.unixmexico.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <61667.200.67.190.71.1036686136.squirrel@mail.unixmexico.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Coffee-Level: high Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello: On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:22:16AM -0600, nbari@unixmexico.com wrote: > Hi all > > how can i limiting the number of recipients per message so I can limit > some spammers For much better response for qmail-related questions, try the qmail mailing list. To subscribe, send an empty message to qmail-subscribe@list.cr.yp.to. I don't think that I've ever seen anything that limits the number of recipients for an email, but I have seen a patch that introduces a delay between every RCPT TO command in the SMTP dialogue, which may accomplish what you're trying to do. Marcus > > I´m using qmail on freebsd > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > "UNIXMEXICO la comunidad *nix en todo México!" > http://www.unixmexico.org/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 19:43:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF51637B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (floyd.gnulife.org [199.86.41.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5CD43E3B for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:43:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 038A9432C9; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:57:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96FE432C6 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:57:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:57:44 -0600 (CST) From: Jamie To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: multiple SCSI tape drives Message-ID: <20021107214152.Y62682-100000@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am running FreeBSD 4.5 and just installed a couple of scsi tape drives on the machine. For some reason, I can only seem to access one of the drives. The kernel finds both of the drives when the machine starts: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 15) sa1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa1: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa1: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 15) ...but for some reason I can't seem to use the device /dev/sa0 or /dev/sa1. When I try to rewind /dev/sa0, I get: machine# mt -f /dev/sa0 rewind /dev/sa0: Inappropriate ioctl for device I can only seem to get one of the machine to actually work right. I figured out which device driver it was using by mistake, when I did: machine# mt rdhpos It indicated /dev/nsa0 ! My first question is, why is it using nsa0? When the machine booted, it was sa0. My second question is, how do I access the other SCSI drive? When I do this: machine# ls /dev/*sa* ersa0 esa0 nrsa0 nsa0 rsa0 rsa0.ctl sa0.3 ersa0.0 esa0.0 nrsa0.0 nsa0.0 rsa0.0 sa0 sa0.ctl ersa0.1 esa0.1 nrsa0.1 nsa0.1 rsa0.1 sa0.0 sa1 ersa0.2 esa0.2 nrsa0.2 nsa0.2 rsa0.2 sa0.1 ersa0.3 esa0.3 nrsa0.3 nsa0.3 rsa0.3 sa0.2 ...There is only one sa1 device file, and when I try writing to it, it appears to take writes and reads, because I can see the files listed on the machine as tar "runs", but the tape machine isn't doing anything (no noice, light activity - but is the same model as the other). I am mystified by all these other "sa0" device files, but only one sa1 file. Anywone willing to point me in the right direction? I've tried reading the man pages on "sa", and "mt". They marginally helpful, but does anyone know of other docs out there that I may find useful? Thanks! - Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 7 20: 4:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4435537B401 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw1-out.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0360C43E42 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:04:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virus-gate.meiway.com [212.73.210.91]) by mgw1-out.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 3797DEF69E for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 04:42:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.meiway.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E64225D009 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 05:11:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FAD5D008 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 05:11:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from tx0-go2france-c.Go2France.com [66.64.14.18] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AA2313790170; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 05:14:27 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20021107215857.0261fc98@mail.go2france.com> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@mail.go2france.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 22:03:52 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: RE: New root zone hint file published In-Reply-To: <007b01c286a2$5479af40$490fa8c0@MJOHNSTON> References: <20021107210252.GA46812@users.munk.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >If you want that warm, fuzzy, secure feeling, you can also verify the >signature on the (perfectly valid) file Jez posted. dig @198.41.0.4 . ns > /path/to/db.cache ... is sufficient. If you can't trust authoritative answers from the delegated NS, esp for the root zone, then you can't trust anything in the namespace. No need to futz around with downloading files and authenticating them. Len To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 8 3:21:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDA437B401 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 03:21:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.arc.net.my (nagano.arc.net.my [203.115.225.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E741343E6E for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 03:21:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@arc.net.my) Received: from roponggi (roppongi.arc.net.my [203.115.225.83]) by mail.arc.net.my (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 Patch 1 (built Jun 6 2002)) with SMTP id <0H590004R8VS2N@mail.arc.net.my> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 19:21:28 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 19:18:59 +0800 From: Nick Kraal Subject: mozilla-OTT To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Reply-To: Nick Kraal Message-id: <01e201c28718$a280a560$53e173cb@arc.net.my> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20021107210252.GA46812@users.munk.nu> <5.1.1.6.2.20021107215857.0261fc98@mail.go2france.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Slightly OTT. Installed Mozilla 1.1 via the ports collection and needed to install ports/jdk13 and the following in addition: j2sdk-1_3_1-src.tar.gz j2sdk-1_3_1_05-linux-i586.bin bsd-jdk131-patches-7.tar.gz running 'make install' gives me this error message -any ideas? Thanks in advance. -nick/ gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk13/work/j2sdk1.3.1/make/java/applet' gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk13/work/j2sdk1.3.1/make/java/applet' <<>>Recursively making net all @ Fri Nov 8 18:14:18 MYT 2002 ... gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk13/work/j2sdk1.3.1/make/java/net' gmake ../../../build/bsd-i386/lib/i386/libnet.so VARIANT=OPT Illegal instruction - core dumped gmake[1]: *** [all] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/java/jdk13/work/j2sdk1.3.1/make/java' gmake: *** [all] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 8 6: 3:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B4C37B401 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:03:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f167.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA3043E4A for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:03:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew__nelson@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:03:12 -0800 Received: from 211.28.96.69 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:03:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [211.28.96.69] From: "Andrew Nelson" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Moving namedb log entries to another file? Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 01:03:12 +1100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2002 14:03:12.0867 (UTC) FILETIME=[938F9B30:01C2872F] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, My /var/log/messages is getting swamped by a heap of namedb stuff that I don't really need to know about. Does anyone know how I could tell syslog to put it somewhere else (or configure namedb to do it).. thanks very much. Andrew. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 8 6: 8:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9165937B401 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.csh.rit.edu [129.21.60.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E0143E4A for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:08:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from petef@databits.net) Received: by hex.databits.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0EDDE2112F; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:08:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:08:11 -0700 From: Pete Fritchman To: Andrew Nelson Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Moving namedb log entries to another file? Message-ID: <20021108070811.A24303@absolutbsd.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from andrew__nelson@hotmail.com on Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 01:03:12AM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 09/11/02 01:03 +1100 - Andrew Nelson: | Hi, | | My /var/log/messages is getting swamped by | a heap of namedb stuff that I don't really | need to know about. Does anyone know how | I could tell syslog to put it somewhere | else (or configure namedb to do it).. I prefer to have named just log to a file (in this case, inside a chroot). 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Note that the new Email Gold Cd cannot be ordered by phone yet. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 8 12:11: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EB937B401 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:10:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59F2943E42 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:10:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: (qmail 18190 invoked by uid 85); 8 Nov 2002 20:10:50 -0000 Received: from paulo@nlink.com.br by mirage.nlink.com.br by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.12 (avp. Clear:. Processed in 5.821661 secs); 08 Nov 2002 20:10:50 -0000 Received: from j1.nlink.com.br (200.249.195.30) by mirage.nlink.com.br with SMTP; 8 Nov 2002 20:10:44 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Jail + Realserver G2 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:10:42 -0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200211081710.42381.paulo@nlink.com.br> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Have you ever installed realserver G2 on jail enviroment? We are trying t= o do=20 this but rmserver can't start on jail enviroment: Creating Server Space... Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... Loading RealServer License Files... E: could not open PNAPort 7070 but it's working fine on host enviroment. Can be any problem with binding to 127.0.0.1? Thanks, Paulo. ps.: In both enviroment we have ever installed compat3x and compat4x. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 8 12:14:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE84137B401 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from scan.pnc.com.au (scan.pnc.com.au [203.13.174.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD4D443E4A for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:14:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterh@ripewithdecay.com) Received: (qmail 18919 invoked by uid 84); 9 Nov 2002 07:24:39 +1100 Received: from unknown (HELO dialup-193.129.221.203.acc02-high-pen.comindico.com.au) (203.13.174.1) by scan.pnc.com.au with SMTP; 9 Nov 2002 07:24:39 +1100 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:15:09 +1100 (EST) From: Peter Hoskin X-X-Sender: peterh@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au To: Paulo Fragoso Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Jail + Realserver G2 In-Reply-To: <200211081710.42381.paulo@nlink.com.br> Message-ID: <20021109071419.G301-100000@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Probably should netstat -ln to check if something is already listening on port 7070 on the IP you're trying to bind to. Regards, Peter Hoskin On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Paulo Fragoso wrote: > Hi, > > Have you ever installed realserver G2 on jail enviroment? We are trying to do > this but rmserver can't start on jail enviroment: > > Creating Server Space... > Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... > Loading RealServer License Files... > E: could not open PNAPort 7070 > > but it's working fine on host enviroment. > > Can be any problem with binding to 127.0.0.1? > > Thanks, > Paulo. > > ps.: In both enviroment we have ever installed compat3x and compat4x. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 8 12:24:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7C937B401 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6758B43E3B for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:24:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: (qmail 29318 invoked by uid 85); 8 Nov 2002 20:24:53 -0000 Received: from paulo@nlink.com.br by mirage.nlink.com.br by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.12 (avp. Clear:. Processed in 1.336611 secs); 08 Nov 2002 20:24:53 -0000 Received: from j1.nlink.com.br (200.249.195.30) by mirage.nlink.com.br with SMTP; 8 Nov 2002 20:24:51 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Paulo Fragoso To: Peter Hoskin Subject: Re: Jail + Realserver G2 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:24:51 -0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021109071419.G301-100000@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au> In-Reply-To: <20021109071419.G301-100000@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200211081724.51524.paulo@nlink.com.br> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday 08 November 2002 17:15, Peter Hoskin wrote: > Probably should netstat -ln to check if something is already listening = on > port 7070 on the IP you're trying to bind to. No, we have checked this and we have tried others PNAPorts, like 7071, 70= 72,=20 =2E.. without successful, but it always works in host enviroment. We had tried to discovery something using ktrace but we can't conclude=20 anything. Paulo. > > Regards, > Peter Hoskin > > On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Paulo Fragoso wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Have you ever installed realserver G2 on jail enviroment? We are tryi= ng > > to do this but rmserver can't start on jail enviroment: > > > > Creating Server Space... > > Starting RealServer 6.0 Core... > > Loading RealServer License Files... > > E: could not open PNAPort 7070 > > > > but it's working fine on host enviroment. > > > > Can be any problem with binding to 127.0.0.1? > > > > Thanks, > > Paulo. > > > > ps.: In both enviroment we have ever installed compat3x and compat4x. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 8 12:41:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D03637B401 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from traven.uol.com.br (traven.uol.com.br [200.221.4.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D8243E42 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:41:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from antonio.torres@newspace.net.br) Received: from thinkpad.newspace.net.br ([200.221.55.15]) by traven.uol.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA27104 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:27:57 -0200 (BRST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:41:30 -0200 From: Antonio Torres To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Jail + Realserver G2 Message-Id: <20021108184130.5211bd73.antonio.torres@newspace.net.br> In-Reply-To: <20021109071419.G301-100000@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au> References: <200211081710.42381.paulo@nlink.com.br> <20021109071419.G301-100000@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au> Organization: Newspace Telecom. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:15:09 +1100 (EST) Peter Hoskin wrote: > freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG -- Antonio Torres antonio.torres@newspace.net.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 8 12:42:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26D237B401 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ginsberg.uol.com.br (ginsberg.uol.com.br [200.221.4.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF97443E3B for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:42:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from antonio.torres@newspace.net.br) Received: from thinkpad.newspace.net.br ([200.221.55.15]) by ginsberg.uol.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA14258 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:40:33 -0200 (BRST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:42:29 -0200 From: Antonio Torres To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail + Realserver G2 Message-Id: <20021108184229.68361f5e.antonio.torres@newspace.net.br> In-Reply-To: <200211081724.51524.paulo@nlink.com.br> References: <20021109071419.G301-100000@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au> <200211081724.51524.paulo@nlink.com.br> Organization: Newspace Telecom. X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Friday 08 November 2002 17:15, Peter Hoskin wrote: > > Probably should netstat -ln to check if something is already listening on > > port 7070 on the IP you're trying to bind to. > > No, we have checked this and we have tried others PNAPorts, like 7071, 7072, > ... without successful, but it always works in host enviroment. > Have You tried other services inside your Jail ?? like ftp, ssh, etc... Regards -- Antonio Torres antonio.torres@newspace.net.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 8 12:55:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB3E37B401 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 771E043E42 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:55:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: (qmail 51323 invoked by uid 85); 8 Nov 2002 20:55:32 -0000 Received: from paulo@nlink.com.br by mirage.nlink.com.br by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.12 (avp. Clear:. Processed in 1.336298 secs); 08 Nov 2002 20:55:32 -0000 Received: from j1.nlink.com.br (200.249.195.30) by mirage.nlink.com.br with SMTP; 8 Nov 2002 20:55:30 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Paulo Fragoso To: Antonio Torres , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jail + Realserver G2 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:55:27 -0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <20021109071419.G301-100000@extortion.peterh.dropbear.id.au> <200211081724.51524.paulo@nlink.com.br> <20021108184229.68361f5e.antonio.torres@newspace.net.br> In-Reply-To: <20021108184229.68361f5e.antonio.torres@newspace.net.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200211081755.28071.paulo@nlink.com.br> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday 08 November 2002 17:42, Antonio Torres wrote: > > On Friday 08 November 2002 17:15, Peter Hoskin wrote: > > > Probably should netstat -ln to check if something is already listen= ing > > > on port 7070 on the IP you're trying to bind to. > > > > No, we have checked this and we have tried others PNAPorts, like 7071= , > > 7072, ... without successful, but it always works in host enviroment. > > Have You tried other services inside your Jail ?? like ftp, ssh, etc... 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021109160826.E47064-100000@weaponsof.massdestruction.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Put this in your /etc/syslog.conf daemon.notice /var/log/namedlog And make sure you add !daemon.notice in the facilities section of the /var/log/messages line. Herb McNew ======================================== U: There's a U -- a Unicorn! Run right up and rub its horn. Look at all those points you're losing! UMBER HULKS are so confusing. -- The Roguelet's ABC On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Andrew Nelson wrote: > Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 01:03:12 +1100 > From: Andrew Nelson > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Moving namedb log entries to another file? > > Hi, > > My /var/log/messages is getting swamped by > a heap of namedb stuff that I don't really > need to know about. 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