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On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:07:18 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you =
wrote:

>archive grew over gig or so in size, it errored out on me). Dump is a
>mess to work with, it doesn't work with directories nor with single
>archive file. You need to keep creating new dumps using different
>backup levels and I don't know how you will restore files for x user
>using all those little dumps when you need to efficiently.


Dump will work with a single archive file per level. Yes, it does work on=
 a
file system basis and not directory, but your generally want a level0
backup of your entire system anyways. Its also very efficient for =
restoring
the odd file from the archive file. restore -i -f <filename> and its MUCH
nicer to work with than tar this way.  If you keep 5 levels of =
incremental
dumps, yes, you will need to do this potentially for 5 different files, =
but
still works as expected. We do something like this

/sbin/dump -0uanf - /usr |gzip -9 | ssh
remoteuser@backupserver.example.com dd
of=3D/home/targetdir/root-server-al0.gz

	---Mike
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On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:22:06AM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:07:18 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote:
> 
> >archive grew over gig or so in size, it errored out on me). Dump is a
> >mess to work with, it doesn't work with directories nor with single
> >archive file. You need to keep creating new dumps using different
> >backup levels and I don't know how you will restore files for x user
> >using all those little dumps when you need to efficiently.
> 
> 
> Dump will work with a single archive file per level. Yes, it does work on a
> file system basis and not directory, but your generally want a level0
> backup of your entire system anyways. Its also very efficient for restoring
> the odd file from the archive file. restore -i -f <filename> and its MUCH
> nicer to work with than tar this way.  If you keep 5 levels of incremental
> dumps, yes, you will need to do this potentially for 5 different files, but
> still works as expected. We do something like this
> 
> /sbin/dump -0uanf - /usr |gzip -9 | ssh
> remoteuser@backupserver.example.com dd
> of=/home/targetdir/root-server-al0.gz

Agreed that dump is the way to go much of the time.. There is something
that bothers me in your example though. Your backup machine trusts the server,
and not the other way around. IMHO, the backup machine needs to be one of
the most trusted machines on your network, like your management workstation.
It logs into machines below it, and not the other way around. Compromise of
server X should not allow access to the backups of every machine on the
network!

Marcus

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At 02:10 PM 12/15/2002 -0800, Marcus Reid wrote:
>On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:22:06AM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> > /sbin/dump -0uanf - /usr |gzip -9 | ssh
> > remoteuser@backupserver.example.com dd
> > of=/home/targetdir/root-server-al0.gz
>
>Agreed that dump is the way to go much of the time.. There is something
>that bothers me in your example though. Your backup machine trusts the server,
>and not the other way around. IMHO, the backup machine needs to be one of
>the most trusted machines on your network, like your management workstation.

I agree.  However, the target user on the backup server is non wheel and 
the session is chrooted into its own directory.  If servera is compromised, 
the attacker can get at the account servera on the backupserver, and thats it.


>It logs into machines below it, and not the other way around. Compromise of
>server X should not allow access to the backups of every machine on the
>network!


Not necessarily.  If there is a password compromise on the one server, it 
does not mean that there is access to all the other accounts on the backup 
server.  Also, if it were done the other way around, only the backup server 
need to be compromised to gain access to all the other servers.

How have you designed your backup system that avoids these issues ?

         ---Mike
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On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 08:04:31PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> At 02:10 PM 12/15/2002 -0800, Marcus Reid wrote:
> >On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:22:06AM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> >> /sbin/dump -0uanf - /usr |gzip -9 | ssh
> >> remoteuser@backupserver.example.com dd
> >> of=/home/targetdir/root-server-al0.gz
> >
> >Agreed that dump is the way to go much of the time.. There is something
> >that bothers me in your example though. Your backup machine trusts the 
> >server,
> >and not the other way around. IMHO, the backup machine needs to be one of
> >the most trusted machines on your network, like your management 
> >workstation.
> 
> I agree.  However, the target user on the backup server is non wheel and 
> the session is chrooted into its own directory.  If servera is compromised, 
> the attacker can get at the account servera on the backupserver, and thats 
> it.
> 
> >It logs into machines below it, and not the other way around. Compromise of
> >server X should not allow access to the backups of every machine on the
> >network!
> 
> Not necessarily.  If there is a password compromise on the one server, it 
> does not mean that there is access to all the other accounts on the backup 
> server.  Also, if it were done the other way around, only the backup server 
> need to be compromised to gain access to all the other servers.
> 
> How have you designed your backup system that avoids these issues ?

Creating a chrooted environment capable of supporting SSH for each machine
to be backed up seems impractical at best. Even if it were as simple as
putting ssh and dd binaries into every chroot, I don't see the advantage
that it has over having the backup machine make the outgoing connections.

If the backup server is compromised in either configuration all of the
backup data is exposed. But it's less likely to be possible if you can't
connect to it.

The last OpenSSH flaw I remember was an upstream vulnerability (rogue
server exploiting vulnerable client) so obviously you're not invincible
either way. But the difference in potential for vulnerability between an
incoming SSH connection and being inside of a chroot with (suid root!)
binaries and libs laying all over the place is pretty clear.

Marcus

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Can someone please share their opinion about mysql's 4.x
stability/robustitude on Freebsd?

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On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Eric W. Bates wrote:

> Can someone please share their opinion about mysql's 4.x
> stability/robustitude on Freebsd?

We use it as a replication slave for SELECT-only queries without a
problem.  It is key that you follow the FreeBSD compilation instructions
in the INSTALL-SOURCE document if you're compiling from source; a more
"straight" configure & compile will leave you with a mess.  The test suite
won't complete properly, but everything we've tried to use works just
fine, we haven't had any problems with it crashing, locking up, etc.

Tim Wilde

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At 08:44 PM 15/12/2002 -0800, Marcus Reid wrote:
>Creating a chrooted environment capable of supporting SSH for each machine
>to be backed up seems impractical at best.


I was thinking more of an sshd that allows chrooting.

See
http://garage.freebsd.pl/openssh.README

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Does anyone have any recommendations for choosing from
the following serial cards:

   PCI-Based multi-port serial boards ( puc(4) driver)

               Avlab Technology, PCI IO 2S
               Moxa Industio CP-114
               Syba Tech Ltd. PCI-4S2P-550-ECP
               Netmos NM9835 PCI-2S-550
               PCCOM dual port RS232/422/485
               SIIG Cyber Serial Dual PCI 16C550

This will be sitting on the 2nd PCI bus, in case
that matters (which it does to my Cyclades board).

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Hi there..
I'm in the process of developing a web-based control panel and account
creation system for a web hosting environment.

I'm just wondering if anyone has an experience with this sort of thing..

I.e. Creating a system to add users, update users info (e.g., quotas, etc)
via the web using minimum user privileges for the web server (also using
PHP!). Maybe with MySQL?


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On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 05:56  PM, Lee Johnston wrote:
> I.e. Creating a system to add users, update users info (e.g., quotas, etc)
> via the web using minimum user privileges for the web server (also using
> PHP!). Maybe with MySQL?

Check out webmin and usermin-- probably in the ports as 
/usr/ports/sysutils/webmin.

-Chuck

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At 06:17 PM 12/17/2002 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote:

>Check out webmin and usermin-- probably in the ports as 
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>
>-Chuck

That, and look at ISPman (www.ispman.org).  We're using this under FreeBSD 
4.7 now and it works well.  It uses an LDAP backend also.

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 10:56:24PM -0000, Lee Johnston wrote:
> I'm just wondering if anyone has an experience with this sort of thing..
> 
> I.e. Creating a system to add users, update users info (e.g., quotas, etc)
> via the web using minimum user privileges for the web server (also using
> PHP!). Maybe with MySQL?
I recently found the following which might be worth a quick look:

http://chaogic.com/vhost/

I haven't had a chance to check it out yet, but it sounds useful:

What is it?
vHost is a one-step solution for all virtual hosting needs. It
enables a Linux/BSD server with single or multiple IP addresses to
handle unlimited web/ftp/email domains. It comes with both command
line and web based graphical user interface, which gives maximum
control to a domain's owner, while relieving the system administrator
of most routine administration tasks. The latest version also offers
the "clustering" capability.

Let us know if you find anything else!

Cheers,

Jez

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Check out: http://www.freevsd.org/

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jez Hancock [mailto:jez.hancock@munk.nu]
> Sent: 18 December 2002 12:27
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> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 10:56:24PM -0000, Lee Johnston wrote:
> > I'm just wondering if anyone has an experience with this 
> sort of thing..
> > 
> > I.e. Creating a system to add users, update users info 
> (e.g., quotas, etc)
> > via the web using minimum user privileges for the web 
> server (also using
> > PHP!). Maybe with MySQL?
> I recently found the following which might be worth a quick look:
> 
> http://chaogic.com/vhost/
> 
> I haven't had a chance to check it out yet, but it sounds useful:
> 
> What is it?
> vHost is a one-step solution for all virtual hosting needs. It
> enables a Linux/BSD server with single or multiple IP addresses to
> handle unlimited web/ftp/email domains. It comes with both command
> line and web based graphical user interface, which gives maximum
> control to a domain's owner, while relieving the system administrator
> of most routine administration tasks. The latest version also offers
> the "clustering" capability.
> 
> Let us know if you find anything else!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jez
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>Check out: http://www.freevsd.org/

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> >Check out: http://www.freevsd.org/
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> Last I checked they didn't support FreeBSD, or other versions 
> of Linux other
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Whoops, you're right.  Lost my brain today, I was thinking of "Jail" on
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Yeah, just noticed that on the site.
Thanks for all the replies. Ralph's reply about ISPman seems the best bet as
it's using LDAP as a backend so in theory can support multiple servers.

I was really after something that stored account info, domain details,
apache config in MySQL but looking around, it seems that people are leaning
towards LDAP and using pam_ldap for user authentication.

Has anyone got an opinion with regards to the stability and usability of
OpenLDAP vs. MySQL? I've never really experimented with LDAP!

Thanks again,
Lee.



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>Check out: http://www.freevsd.org/

Last I checked they didn't support FreeBSD, or other versions of Linux other
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Lee Johnston wrote:

> Yeah, just noticed that on the site.
> Thanks for all the replies. Ralph's reply about ISPman seems the best bet as
> it's using LDAP as a backend so in theory can support multiple servers.

Look at http://www.plesk.com

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On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Lee Johnston wrote:

> I was really after something that stored account info, domain details,
> apache config in MySQL but looking around, it seems that people are leaning
> towards LDAP and using pam_ldap for user authentication.
>
> Has anyone got an opinion with regards to the stability and usability of
> OpenLDAP vs. MySQL? I've never really experimented with LDAP!
>

Well, I think that both products are quite stable, so that should not be a
deciding factor.  Usability is where it matters.

MySQL is an SQL RDBMS (Relation DataBase Management System).  OpenLDAP is
an LDAP Directory.  SQL is better for transaction-based operations and
where you require complex queries, while LDAP is designed for
read-intensive operations where you are constantly querying the server
for information and not writing to it as often.  Also, from my experience,
LDAP is easier to replicate.  I think that LDAP makes more sense for
storing user account information.

Not too long ago there was a website, and I believe it was www.ldap.org,
which had some good articles on the differences between SQL and LDAP.
However, now when I go to ldap.org I get one of those stupid Ultimate
Search pages.


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Hi,

I wonder if anyone has this combination installed?
I'm having a great deal of trouble getting SSL on
with apache_fp..  I can install apache_fp, or
apache_modssl, but can't put the missing mod on
afterwards..  The only docs I can find are for much
older version..

Is there anyone who's done that and can tell me
the secret?

thanks,
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Have you tried Apache Toolbox?

http://www.apachetoolbox.com

-Adam

Quoting Andrew Nelson <andrew__nelson@hotmail.com>:

> Hi,
> 
> I wonder if anyone has this combination installed?
> I'm having a great deal of trouble getting SSL on
> with apache_fp..  I can install apache_fp, or
> apache_modssl, but can't put the missing mod on
> afterwards..  The only docs I can find are for much
> older version..
> 
> Is there anyone who's done that and can tell me
> the secret?
> 
> thanks,
> Andrew.
> 
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>Have you tried Apache Toolbox?
>
>http://www.apachetoolbox.com
>
>-Adam

Have you(or anyone) used this on FreeBSD... version...  hacks required?  Sounds
worth investigating, anyone care to "don't bother because..."?

Dave

>Quoting Andrew Nelson <andrew__nelson@hotmail.com>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wonder if anyone has this combination installed?
>> I'm having a great deal of trouble getting SSL on
>> with apache_fp..  I can install apache_fp, or
>> apache_modssl, but can't put the missing mod on
>> afterwards..  The only docs I can find are for much
>> older version..
>>
>> Is there anyone who's done that and can tell me
>> the secret?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Andrew.
>>
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Install apache_modssl first, and then install mod_php and then mod_fp.
Note, when you install apache_modssl make sure you have suExec enabled in
the port's Makefile.

	---Mike

On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:10:18 +1100, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you =
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I wonder if anyone has this combination installed?
>I'm having a great deal of trouble getting SSL on
>with apache_fp..  I can install apache_fp, or
>apache_modssl, but can't put the missing mod on
>afterwards..  The only docs I can find are for much
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Hi Jack,

Thanks for your help.  I think i've done this (i've
rm -rf'ed all the directories and tried from scratch
several times now)..  Can I just verify your procedure:

1. you have Freebsd 4.7
2. install (from ports) www/apache13-modssl
3. install (from ports) www/mod_php4 (default options)
4. install (from ports) www/mod_frontpage
5. install (from ports) www/frontpage
6. run /usr/local/frontpage/version5.0/fp_install.sh

Step 5 will fail (and is unnecessary) because it's
already installed by step 4.


If i follow those steps on a fresh 4.7 install, when I
run step 6, I get:

Note: Local version of Apache must use the FrontPage Apache patch.Error: 
FrontPage requires that the AllowOverride option
be set to something other than "None" (typically set in access.conf).  "All" 
is the preferred AllowOverride option for
the document root.  ERROR:  / installation failed..

So, I set "AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit Options Indexes"

Then I get the error:

Error: The top-level folder for web <Root Web> is a symbolic
link and the 'FollowSymLinks' server configuration is not set.
ERROR:  / installation failed.

So, I change "/usr/local/www/data"  to "/usr/local/www/data-dist"

It runs ok now and I create a root web.

When I point FrontPage2002 at the root web, it doesn't work
and I get this in my error log:

File does not exist: /usr/local/www/data-dist/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc

I'd really really appreciate any help - i'm going crazy!

Thanks,
Andrew.


>From: "Jack L. Stone" <jackstone@sage-one.net>
>To: "John Straiton" <jsmailing@clickcom.com>,"'Andrew Nelson'" 
><andrew__nelson@hotmail.com>
>CC: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Subject: RE: Installing apache+ssl / frontpage / php
>Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:46:10 -0600
>
>At 09:28 AM 12.19.2002 -0500, John Straiton wrote:
> >Search the mailing list. It was just last week that I was running a
> >thread on this.
> >
> >I couldn't find a way to get mod_frontpage hacked into my existing
> >setup. I tried several times. Even going so far as to deinstall
> >everything, then rm -r the directories, then reinstalling and only
> >copying over my <virtualhost> section of the httpd.conf
> >
> >However, by doing a fresh install to 4.7, then compiling (in my case)
> >www/apache13-modssl (as opposed to -ssl), www/mod_php4,
> >www/mod_frontpage, and finally www/frontpage, then running
> >/usr/local/frontpage/version5.0/fp_install.sh I got this to work out of
> >box first try.
> >
> >RTR hasn't felt the need to keep the mod_frontpage apache patch up to
> >date it would seem, but some adventurous folk have been kind enough to
> >put one together that doesn't use the old patch method.
> >
> >Hope this helps,
> >John Straiton
>
>Hello, John -- glad you got it going. Sounds like the procedure I
>suggested, except perhaps php4, which I usually install last.
>
>Best regards,
>Jack L. Stone,
>Administrator
>
>SageOne Net
>http://www.sage-one.net
>jackstone@sage-one.net
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This is where I keep getting stuck as well.  As near as I can tell, it's
all in the suexec (fpexec?) binary, but even bringing those over from
another port doesn't yeild a workable configuration.

The workaround for this, is to just let the web user own all the webs.
Not ideal, but it will work.

I still wish all the folks who've done an apache port would get together
and make a SINGLE apache port, which might be put together something
like the PHP port, where you get a menu for all the bells and whistles
you want (ssl, fp, ipv6, mod_*, etc...).

Apache+modssl+fp is possible to do correctly, I just haven't figured out
how yet (and quite frankly, haven't had time either).

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG 
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Andrew Nelson
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:28 AM
> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; jackstone@sage-one.net
> Subject: RE: Installing apache+ssl / frontpage / php
> 
> 
> Hi Jack,
> 
> Thanks for your help.  I think i've done this (i've
> rm -rf'ed all the directories and tried from scratch
> several times now)..  Can I just verify your procedure:
> 
> 1. you have Freebsd 4.7
> 2. install (from ports) www/apache13-modssl
> 3. install (from ports) www/mod_php4 (default options)
> 4. install (from ports) www/mod_frontpage
> 5. install (from ports) www/frontpage
> 6. run /usr/local/frontpage/version5.0/fp_install.sh
> 
> Step 5 will fail (and is unnecessary) because it's
> already installed by step 4.
> 
> 
> If i follow those steps on a fresh 4.7 install, when I
> run step 6, I get:
> 
> Note: Local version of Apache must use the FrontPage Apache 
> patch.Error: 
> FrontPage requires that the AllowOverride option
> be set to something other than "None" (typically set in 
> access.conf).  "All" 
> is the preferred AllowOverride option for
> the document root.  ERROR:  / installation failed..
> 
> So, I set "AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit Options Indexes"
> 
> Then I get the error:
> 
> Error: The top-level folder for web <Root Web> is a symbolic 
> link and the 'FollowSymLinks' server configuration is not set.
> ERROR:  / installation failed.
> 
> So, I change "/usr/local/www/data"  to "/usr/local/www/data-dist"
> 
> It runs ok now and I create a root web.
> 
> When I point FrontPage2002 at the root web, it doesn't work
> and I get this in my error log:
> 
> File does not exist: 
> /usr/local/www/data-dist/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc
> 
> I'd really really appreciate any help - i'm going crazy!
> 
> Thanks,
> Andrew.
> 
> 
> >From: "Jack L. Stone" <jackstone@sage-one.net>
> >To: "John Straiton" <jsmailing@clickcom.com>,"'Andrew Nelson'"
> ><andrew__nelson@hotmail.com>
> >CC: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
> >Subject: RE: Installing apache+ssl / frontpage / php
> >Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:46:10 -0600
> >
> >At 09:28 AM 12.19.2002 -0500, John Straiton wrote:
> > >Search the mailing list. It was just last week that I was 
> running a 
> > >thread on this.
> > >
> > >I couldn't find a way to get mod_frontpage hacked into my existing 
> > >setup. I tried several times. Even going so far as to deinstall 
> > >everything, then rm -r the directories, then reinstalling and only 
> > >copying over my <virtualhost> section of the httpd.conf
> > >
> > >However, by doing a fresh install to 4.7, then compiling 
> (in my case) 
> > >www/apache13-modssl (as opposed to -ssl), www/mod_php4, 
> > >www/mod_frontpage, and finally www/frontpage, then running 
> > >/usr/local/frontpage/version5.0/fp_install.sh I got this 
> to work out 
> > >of box first try.
> > >
> > >RTR hasn't felt the need to keep the mod_frontpage apache 
> patch up to 
> > >date it would seem, but some adventurous folk have been 
> kind enough 
> > >to put one together that doesn't use the old patch method.
> > >
> > >Hope this helps,
> > >John Straiton
> >
> >Hello, John -- glad you got it going. Sounds like the procedure I 
> >suggested, except perhaps php4, which I usually install last.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Jack L. Stone,
> >Administrator
> >
> >SageOne Net
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Quoting "Dave [Hawk-Systems]" <dave@hawk-systems.com>:

> Have you(or anyone) used this on FreeBSD... version...  hacks required? 
> Sounds worth investigating, anyone care to "don't bother because..."?
> 
> Dave

I've used it sucessfully on several 4.X systems. I've ocassionally run into 
problems with getting MySQL or IMAP support compiled into PHP, but with a 
little poking around I was always able to get it to work. I haven't had any 
trouble with getting FrontPage or SSL support compiled into Apache using 
ApacheToolbox.

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[in reply to Evren Yurtesen, Friday 20 December 2002 23:38]
> hi
> is there anybody using freebsd as pppoe client?
> thanks

Yes, I have a simple box that connects via PPPoE to my cable provider.
Glad I could help ;)
walter

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Well I am trying to connect with a wireless card...
I have figured out how to make it work though it is kind of slow
I could get first 6kbytes/s about then when I added these

disable protocomp
disable shortseq
disable acfcomp
set speed sync

I jumped to 70kbytes/s, but still its kind of slow =) I wonder what I can
do to increase the speed further

any tips?

On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Walter Hop wrote:

> [in reply to Evren Yurtesen, Friday 20 December 2002 23:38]
> > hi
> > is there anybody using freebsd as pppoe client?
> > thanks
> 
> Yes, I have a simple box that connects via PPPoE to my cable provider.
> Glad I could help ;)
> walter
> 
> -- 
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[in reply to Evren Yurtesen, Saturday 21 December 2002 00:14]
> Well I am trying to connect with a wireless card...
> I have figured out how to make it work though it is kind of slow
> I could get first 6kbytes/s about then when I added these
>
> disable protocomp
> disable shortseq
> disable acfcomp
> set speed sync
>
> I jumped to 70kbytes/s, but still its kind of slow =3D) I wonder what I=
 can
> do to increase the speed further
>
> any tips?

Hmm... not really I guess, I haven't used pppoe in this context, or used=20
wireless on FreeBSD at all. :\ If the peer supports it, adding "enable=20
deflate" to pppd.conf might be a small help in pumping more data across t=
he=20
link. It's strange that it bombs on the options you disabled. What sort o=
f=20
device are you communicating with? Are there no usenet posts on problems=20
with this device in linux/freebsd groups?

wicontrol(8) may have some options for the wireless link that can be tune=
d,=20
although you probably have tried those already. Also, does the wi0=20
interface have no IP address bound to it?

I will probably set up my first wireless network a few months from now, s=
o=20
I'm interested in the results. :) Sorry that I didn't have more info.

walter

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Hi.

The results you are getting are very strange. I've set up wireless network
using Cabletron RoamAbout cards, but i didn't use ppp. When WEP encryption
on cards were enabled i got approx. 500kbytes/s of throughtput. When i
disabled WEP i got approx. 800 kbytes/s. Since i haven't used ppp, i'm not
sure, but this is not OK. PPP shouldn't have so much overhead.

Best regards,
D.

On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Walter Hop wrote:

> [in reply to Evren Yurtesen, Saturday 21 December 2002 00:14]
> > Well I am trying to connect with a wireless card...
> > I have figured out how to make it work though it is kind of slow
> > I could get first 6kbytes/s about then when I added these
> >
> > disable protocomp
> > disable shortseq
> > disable acfcomp
> > set speed sync
> >
> > I jumped to 70kbytes/s, but still its kind of slow =3D) I wonder what I=
 can
> > do to increase the speed further
> >
> > any tips?
>
> Hmm... not really I guess, I haven't used pppoe in this context, or used
> wireless on FreeBSD at all. :\ If the peer supports it, adding "enable
> deflate" to pppd.conf might be a small help in pumping more data across t=
he
> link. It's strange that it bombs on the options you disabled. What sort o=
f
> device are you communicating with? Are there no usenet posts on problems
> with this device in linux/freebsd groups?
>
> wicontrol(8) may have some options for the wireless link that can be tune=
d,
> although you probably have tried those already. Also, does the wi0
> interface have no IP address bound to it?
>
> I will probably set up my first wireless network a few months from now, s=
o
> I'm interested in the results. :) Sorry that I didn't have more info.
>
> walter
>
> --
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>
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Well maybe it was my problem, when I put the machines closer then the
options didnt matter anymore. what does enable deflate do?
It was weird though when the link was not stable these options actually
helped for sure.

Evren

On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Walter Hop wrote:

> [in reply to Evren Yurtesen, Saturday 21 December 2002 00:14]
> > Well I am trying to connect with a wireless card...
> > I have figured out how to make it work though it is kind of slow
> > I could get first 6kbytes/s about then when I added these
> >
> > disable protocomp
> > disable shortseq
> > disable acfcomp
> > set speed sync
> >
> > I jumped to 70kbytes/s, but still its kind of slow =) I wonder what I can
> > do to increase the speed further
> >
> > any tips?
> 
> Hmm... not really I guess, I haven't used pppoe in this context, or used 
> wireless on FreeBSD at all. :\ If the peer supports it, adding "enable 
> deflate" to pppd.conf might be a small help in pumping more data across the 
> link. It's strange that it bombs on the options you disabled. What sort of 
> device are you communicating with? Are there no usenet posts on problems 
> with this device in linux/freebsd groups?
> 
> wicontrol(8) may have some options for the wireless link that can be tuned, 
> although you probably have tried those already. Also, does the wi0 
> interface have no IP address bound to it?
> 
> I will probably set up my first wireless network a few months from now, so 
> I'm interested in the results. :) Sorry that I didn't have more info.
> 
> walter
> 
> -- 
>  Walter Hop <wh©slik.org> | +31 6 24452020 | http://www.skydancer.nl/
> 


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800kbytes/s? it is impossible, the cards are full duplex 11mbit, you can
only use 5.5mbit/s in one way. Or at least thats what the people told me
when I said why I can only ue 5mbit/s
I got better results when I put the cards closer, I had about 590kbytes/s
But 800?! how can that be possible? Did you have any kind of compression?
I dont have encryption on the link. It is kind of funny though that
closing some compression stuff actually improved the link quality
although compression was not in use

Evren

On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, David Delibasic wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> The results you are getting are very strange. I've set up wireless network
> using Cabletron RoamAbout cards, but i didn't use ppp. When WEP encryption
> on cards were enabled i got approx. 500kbytes/s of throughtput. When i
> disabled WEP i got approx. 800 kbytes/s. Since i haven't used ppp, i'm not
> sure, but this is not OK. PPP shouldn't have so much overhead.
> 
> Best regards,
> D.
> 
> On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, Walter Hop wrote:
> 
> > [in reply to Evren Yurtesen, Saturday 21 December 2002 00:14]
> > > Well I am trying to connect with a wireless card...
> > > I have figured out how to make it work though it is kind of slow
> > > I could get first 6kbytes/s about then when I added these
> > >
> > > disable protocomp
> > > disable shortseq
> > > disable acfcomp
> > > set speed sync
> > >
> > > I jumped to 70kbytes/s, but still its kind of slow =) I wonder what I can
> > > do to increase the speed further
> > >
> > > any tips?
> >
> > Hmm... not really I guess, I haven't used pppoe in this context, or used
> > wireless on FreeBSD at all. :\ If the peer supports it, adding "enable
> > deflate" to pppd.conf might be a small help in pumping more data across the
> > link. It's strange that it bombs on the options you disabled. What sort of
> > device are you communicating with? Are there no usenet posts on problems
> > with this device in linux/freebsd groups?
> >
> > wicontrol(8) may have some options for the wireless link that can be tuned,
> > although you probably have tried those already. Also, does the wi0
> > interface have no IP address bound to it?
> >
> > I will probably set up my first wireless network a few months from now, so
> > I'm interested in the results. :) Sorry that I didn't have more info.
> >
> > walter
> >
> > --
> >  Walter Hop <wh©slik.org> | +31 6 24452020 | http://www.skydancer.nl/
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