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Joshua Goodall wrote:
> On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 05:48:19PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > Joshua Goodall wrote:
> > > On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 03:28:34PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > > No.  TCP.  RPC over UDP is really a silly idea.  If you need
> > > > reliable delivery, then don't use a protocol with "unreliable"
> > > > as the first word of it's name.  8-).
> > >
> > > UDP may well be perfectly viable as a RPC transport, but Terry's
> > > misinforming statement is not a good justification.
> > >
> > > UDP is the User Datagram Protocol.
> >
> > Was that a "miss" or an "ignore" on the "8-)"?
> 
> Definitely an ignore. An incorrect statement remains incorrect no
> matter how many irrelevant smilies are appended in a feeble attempt
> at irony.  Particularly when it reverses the sense of the preceeding
> statement.

UDP is still a bad bet for reliable request response.  It's
really dumb to effectively reimplement TCP without windows on
top of UDP just to avoid using TCP.

-- Terry

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