From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 3 0:21:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.edsamail.com.ph (mail01.edsamail.com.ph [210.16.71.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5108B37B416 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 00:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13321 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2002 08:21:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edsamail.com.ph) (10.2.0.251) by 10.2.0.251 with SMTP; 3 Mar 2002 08:21:26 -0000 X-Mailer: Edsamail 1.31 (Build 1129) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 16:32:20 +0800 From: "shancecgol S Yorgen" To: "freebsd-newbies" Subject: antivirus for freebsd Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20020303082130.5108B37B416@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ive been using linux and lately some freebsd... but the thing is ive never heard of any antivirus for them.. can anyone recommned me a software and point me where i can download it. Many thanx! -shanecgol __________________________________ www.edsamail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 3 0:21:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from corinna.its.utas.edu.au (corinna.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B4337B42A for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 00:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from corinna.its.utas.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corinna.its.utas.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11853 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:21:43 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200203030821.TAA11853@corinna.its.utas.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.org From: Jeff Duckett Organization: University of Tasmania X-Originating-Ip: 131.217.34.160 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jeff Duckett Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 18:21:43 EAST X-Mailer: EMUmail 4.5 Subject: subscribe X-Webmail-User: jduckett@postoffice.sandybay.utas.edu.au Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "I'm going home to clean the crackers outta my bed, I'm expecting company" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 3 3: 4:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mplspop5.mpls.uswest.net (mplspop5.mpls.uswest.net [204.147.80.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC36A37B400 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 03:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 76252 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2002 11:04:07 -0000 Received: from jumpgate.antiflesh.com (HELO jenny) (63.231.238.225) by mplspop5.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2002 11:04:07 -0000 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 05:15:56 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Maildrop" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Release, Stable, Current MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20020303053843.H93697-100000@sduwebship.student.umd.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have a quick question in regards to FreeBSD releases. The way I am understanding it, is that: Release (4.5) is the Production quality release Stable (4.5.X) is the "Beta" (?) quality release Current (5.0) is the Alpha (high development still going on) quality release If my assumation above are right, what would be the Production quality release that includes only major bug fixes/security holes? Say 4.5 is released, in the Production world for awhile and someone finds a XYZ expliot in it. If I cvs down stable, that should include the fix right (?), but am I also getting a bunch of development / fearture code included with it that may not be suitable for a production envoriment? Are all security holes/major bug fixes avaiable via CVS, or does each one of them have to be applied manually? Is there a web page, etc that contains all the known issuses since the Release (4.5) release? For example, today I installed 4.5 release and after install, synced /usr/src up with 4.5 Stable just to see how much has changed... anyways there was some changes to chmod for example... but not sure if this is a require patch (ie. major security issuse with it) or if it is a bunch of "beta" quality development/ fearture added that shouldn't be floating around in a production envoirment. Is there a 4.5 "bugfix only" release floating around out there? Thanks, Jack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 3 3: 8:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mplspop5.mpls.uswest.net (mplspop5.mpls.uswest.net [204.147.80.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC6E637B400 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 03:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 79018 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2002 11:08:20 -0000 Received: from jumpgate.antiflesh.com (HELO jenny) (63.231.238.225) by mplspop5.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2002 11:08:20 -0000 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 05:20:08 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Maildrop" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Release, Stable, Current MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doh! There was even a link on the main page. Just found this: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/errata.html This is all I should have to worry about, correct? Regards, Jack -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Maildrop Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:16 AM To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Release, Stable, Current Have a quick question in regards to FreeBSD releases. The way I am understanding it, is that: Release (4.5) is the Production quality release Stable (4.5.X) is the "Beta" (?) quality release Current (5.0) is the Alpha (high development still going on) quality release If my assumation above are right, what would be the Production quality release that includes only major bug fixes/security holes? Say 4.5 is released, in the Production world for awhile and someone finds a XYZ expliot in it. If I cvs down stable, that should include the fix right (?), but am I also getting a bunch of development / fearture code included with it that may not be suitable for a production envoriment? Are all security holes/major bug fixes avaiable via CVS, or does each one of them have to be applied manually? Is there a web page, etc that contains all the known issuses since the Release (4.5) release? For example, today I installed 4.5 release and after install, synced /usr/src up with 4.5 Stable just to see how much has changed... anyways there was some changes to chmod for example... but not sure if this is a require patch (ie. major security issuse with it) or if it is a bunch of "beta" quality development/ fearture added that shouldn't be floating around in a production envoirment. Is there a 4.5 "bugfix only" release floating around out there? Thanks, Jack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 3 3:31:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1079137B400 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 03:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from caomhin.demon.co.uk ([212.228.234.119]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16hUCm-0008eg-0Z; Sun, 03 Mar 2002 11:31:04 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:29:53 +0000 To: Maildrop Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Kevin Golding Subject: Re: Release, Stable, Current References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message , Maildrop writes > >Doh! There was even a link on the main page. > >Just found this: >http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/errata.html > >This is all I should have to worry about, correct? Not really, although it's stuff you should be aware of. Basically you need to update your sources to follow the RELEASE tree. This is the tree that adds just security fixes and critical patches. You obviously seem comfortable with cvsup so just set the tag to RELENG_4_5 instead of RELENG_4 Once you get more confident you may decide to track -stable but by then you'll have learnt some of the kickers and things to watch out for. That said a lot of people who very much know what they're doing still only track release for production machines. It's a bit of a judgement call you need to make, but if ever you're unsure stick to release. Oh, and I don't know anyone who uses -current on a production machine, there's probably one or two but I think that's it. It should only be used on a machine that can afford downtime. Kevin >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Maildrop >Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:16 AM >To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org >Subject: Release, Stable, Current > > > >Have a quick question in regards to FreeBSD releases. > >The way I am understanding it, is that: > >Release (4.5) is the Production quality release >Stable (4.5.X) is the "Beta" (?) quality release >Current (5.0) is the Alpha (high development still going on) quality release > >If my assumation above are right, what would be the Production quality >release that includes only major bug fixes/security holes? > >Say 4.5 is released, in the Production world for awhile and someone finds a >XYZ expliot in it. If I cvs down stable, that should include the fix right >(?), but am I also getting a bunch of development / fearture code included >with it that may not be suitable for a production envoriment? > >Are all security holes/major bug fixes avaiable via CVS, or does each one of >them have to be applied manually? > >Is there a web page, etc that contains all the known issuses since the >Release (4.5) release? > >For example, today I installed 4.5 release and after install, synced >/usr/src up with 4.5 Stable just to see how much has changed... anyways >there was some changes to chmod for example... but not sure if this is a >require patch (ie. major security issuse with it) or if it is a bunch of >"beta" quality development/ fearture added that shouldn't be floating around >in a production envoirment. > >Is there a 4.5 "bugfix only" release floating around out there? > >Thanks, >Jack > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 3 4:25: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mplspop5.mpls.uswest.net (mplspop5.mpls.uswest.net [204.147.80.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6EDB37B416 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 04:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27671 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2002 12:24:52 -0000 Received: from jumpgate.antiflesh.com (HELO jenny) (63.231.238.225) by mplspop5.mpls.uswest.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2002 12:24:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 06:36:39 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Maildrop" To: "Kevin Golding" Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Release, Stable, Current MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nice, this worked. Was using the example "stable-supfile" (/usr/share/examples/cvsup ?) and had RELENG_4, changed to RELENG_4_5, deleted /usr/src, synced up and got the 4.5 "production patch" (whatever it is called)... has a Newer (than before) UPDATING file which appears to be the "real" erata file :) Have to read over it a bit, but this feels like it is the right track: /usr/src/UPDATING: : This is for the 4.5 release branch. All entries since 4.5 are an : itemized list of commits to this branch, numbered from the beginning. : By this count, we're at 4.5.0p1. Thanks! Jack -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kevin Golding Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:30 AM To: Maildrop Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Release, Stable, Current In message , Maildrop writes > >Doh! There was even a link on the main page. > >Just found this: >http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/errata.html > >This is all I should have to worry about, correct? Not really, although it's stuff you should be aware of. Basically you need to update your sources to follow the RELEASE tree. This is the tree that adds just security fixes and critical patches. You obviously seem comfortable with cvsup so just set the tag to RELENG_4_5 instead of RELENG_4 Once you get more confident you may decide to track -stable but by then you'll have learnt some of the kickers and things to watch out for. That said a lot of people who very much know what they're doing still only track release for production machines. It's a bit of a judgement call you need to make, but if ever you're unsure stick to release. Oh, and I don't know anyone who uses -current on a production machine, there's probably one or two but I think that's it. It should only be used on a machine that can afford downtime. Kevin >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Maildrop >Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:16 AM >To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org >Subject: Release, Stable, Current > > > >Have a quick question in regards to FreeBSD releases. > >The way I am understanding it, is that: > >Release (4.5) is the Production quality release >Stable (4.5.X) is the "Beta" (?) quality release >Current (5.0) is the Alpha (high development still going on) quality release > >If my assumation above are right, what would be the Production quality >release that includes only major bug fixes/security holes? > >Say 4.5 is released, in the Production world for awhile and someone finds a >XYZ expliot in it. If I cvs down stable, that should include the fix right >(?), but am I also getting a bunch of development / fearture code included >with it that may not be suitable for a production envoriment? > >Are all security holes/major bug fixes avaiable via CVS, or does each one of >them have to be applied manually? > >Is there a web page, etc that contains all the known issuses since the >Release (4.5) release? > >For example, today I installed 4.5 release and after install, synced >/usr/src up with 4.5 Stable just to see how much has changed... anyways >there was some changes to chmod for example... but not sure if this is a >require patch (ie. major security issuse with it) or if it is a bunch of >"beta" quality development/ fearture added that shouldn't be floating around >in a production envoirment. > >Is there a 4.5 "bugfix only" release floating around out there? > >Thanks, >Jack > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 3 4:33:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl [194.29.178.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5C237B417 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 04:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.mini.pw.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) by prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED817CECB; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:33:07 +0100 (CET) Received: by prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (Postfix, from userid 1368) id C9F167CEC8; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:33:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:33:02 +0100 From: Grzegorz Czaplinski To: shancecgol S Yorgen Cc: freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: antivirus for freebsd Message-ID: <20020303133302.A54670@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl> References: <20020303082130.5108B37B416@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020303082130.5108B37B416@hub.freebsd.org>; from shancecgol@edsamail.com.ph on Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 04:32:20PM +0800 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 04:32:20PM +0800, shancecgol S Yorgen wrote: > ive been using linux and lately some freebsd... > but the thing is ive never heard of any antivirus=20 > for them.. >=20 > can anyone recommned me a software and point me=20 > where i can download it. >=20 > Many thanx! Sophos is one of your choice. If you want to scan your incoming/outgoing mail you will have to use amavis (from=20 ports tree) as well. Amavis is a perl script that will run an antivirus program over your mail. Regards, gregory --=20 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyCF/4ACgkQpw+idSSJRp/hIwCgzAGz3+geata6LugwNXj30j/Q xNUAoKXEUWWc/gzaY2zlBF48rTtvuDyJ =GEaU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 3 9:23:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hub.FreeBSD.ORG (ANeuilly-102-1-3-182.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.11.12.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A1AA37B41C for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:23:30 -0800 (PST) From: jlyaich@comme-cv.com (jean-Louis Yaïch) To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG SUBJECT: Auteur propose et recherche MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01C05A02.8AD62BA0" Message-Id: <20020303172330.0A1AA37B41C@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:23:30 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C05A02.8AD62BA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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Sun, 3 Mar 2002 16:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (ppp327.digi-t3.st-cath.niagara.net [209.5.218.73]) by alpha.vaxxine.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA05635 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:05:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200203040005.TAA05635@alpha.vaxxine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Paul C. Boyle" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Do the newbies get hareware freaky. Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:06:52 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I saw on a news program In Toronto a little while back, about geeks and their tweaked up hardware. They had overclocked chips, cooling fans every place you can think. Probably with chrome plating. Their boxes were quite decked out as well. Some had plexiglass side pannels to see the chrome and brass fans spinning. They did not mention in the program though as to what os they were running. I suspect some form of Win9x for game playing. I have a Plll 850 256M of ram on an Asus slot One board. I cannot overclock this but I find it to be a very stable piece of hardware. If I had the money I would go for some sort of scsi raid hard drive controler with 3 10,000rmp drives. Without parity. The read times would top the box off quite nice. What do you do and what would you like to do, now that you run the most efficient operating system this side of Starfleet? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 3 16:39:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12FF737B402 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 16:39:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mimerki (AUTH poptime) at adsl-20-121-81.chs.bellsouth.net (HELO Rozinante) (66.20.121.81) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2002 00:39:26 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Marcia Barrett Nice Reply-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do the newbies get hareware freaky. Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:39:09 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <200203040005.TAA05635@alpha.vaxxine.com> In-Reply-To: <200203040005.TAA05635@alpha.vaxxine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02030319390901.17146@Rozinante> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't actually overclock my boxen (both Pentium chips, non-overclockable), but my husband and I had a hell of a lot of 'fun' designing and building the watercooling rig he uses on his overclocked Athlon XP 1700Plus. We also swore a lot and got a lot of interesting looks from blokes at the hardware store. Something about having the radiator block from a Chevette that we needed to afix a fan 3-4 inches from was quite humourous. Two of the three main boxen have custom paint jobs: my baby is in metalic blues, his in red & black. The firewall has one of the right cool Lian Li brushed aluminum cases (originally bought for his box, until the water cooling rig outgrew it), and it would probably be a sin to paint it. One of these days I'm going to peel the face plates off the cd-rom and floppy drives on the firewall box and paint them black for an improved coolness factor, but... Both the husband's box and the firewall have RAIDs: his runs data-striping for increased read times, the firewall runs mirroring so I don't have to commit sepuku when the hard drive fails and I don't remember how it was set up. A lot of the overclocker boys we've met run dual-boot boxen: Win9x for games and (typically) Linux 'cause it's k3wl. We have actually just spent the afternoon trying to install Linux on the husband's box, to no avail. It doesn't seem to like his RAID card. (We'd already tried FBSD, and it didn't like the RAID card either.) And personally, after all the people I've seen complain about FBSD's installer, I have to say that I find it vastly preferable to both RedHat and SuSE. Marci On Sunday 03 March 2002 07:06 pm, Paul C. Boyle wrote Do the newbies get hareware freaky.: | I saw on a news program In Toronto a little while back, | about geeks and their tweaked up hardware. | They had overclocked chips, cooling fans every place you can think. | Probably with chrome plating. Their boxes were quite decked out as well. | Some had plexiglass side pannels to see the chrome and brass fans spinning. | They did not mention in the program though as to what os they were running. | I suspect some form of Win9x for game playing. | I have a Plll 850 256M of ram on an Asus slot One board. I cannot | overclock this but I find it to be a very stable piece of hardware. If I | had the money I would go for some sort of scsi raid hard drive controler | with 3 10,000rmp drives. Without parity. The read times would top the | box off quite nice. What do you do and what would you like to do, now that | you run the most efficient operating system this side of Starfleet? | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- So why, pray, sign anything as long as every word, letter, penstroke, paperspace is a perfect signature of its own? - James Joyce, Finnegans Wake _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 4 10:59:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C995437B419 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA2381 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:59:47 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <17X61PGM>; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:58:20 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-171.acuson.com [157.226.46.171]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F5L7XJKH; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:49:15 -0800 From: Johnson David To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Security on Workstations Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:59:41 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020304185950.C995437B419@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This months DaemonNews ezine has quite a bit of information on security. Interesting to be sure, but I don't think that information really applies to my boxen. I only have client systems that I maintain. At home my system is, well, a home system. I don't run a webpage off of it, and the only authorized user is myself. I have an SMC Barricade broadband router between it and the rest of the world. At work I have FreeBSD on a workstation within the company network. I have to frequently use telnet and rlogin to connect to other company systems which don't have ssh. What's the best strategy for securing these machines? Currently I'm using standard FreeBSD settings out of the box, with nothing in not in the default enabled. NFS and RPC are disabled. Thanks, David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 4 12:25:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E0F37B400 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:25:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from caomhin.demon.co.uk ([212.228.234.119]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16hz1R-00048f-0W; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 20:25:25 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:24:16 +0000 To: "Paul C. Boyle" Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Kevin Golding Subject: Re: Do the newbies get hareware freaky. References: <200203040005.TAA05635@alpha.vaxxine.com> In-Reply-To: <200203040005.TAA05635@alpha.vaxxine.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200203040005.TAA05635@alpha.vaxxine.com>, Paul C. Boyle writes >I saw on a news program In Toronto a little while back, >about geeks and their tweaked up hardware. >They had overclocked chips, cooling fans every place you can think. >Probably with chrome plating. Their boxes were quite decked out as well. >Some had plexiglass side pannels to see the chrome and brass fans spinning. >They did not mention in the program though as to what os they were running. >I suspect some form of Win9x for game playing. Linux is another popular OS amongst the overclocking crowd. That said overclockers use anything and everything so... >I have a Plll 850 256M of ram on an Asus slot One board. I cannot overclock >this but I find it to be a very stable piece of hardware. If I had the money >I would go for some sort of scsi raid hard drive controler with 3 10,000rmp >drives. Without parity. The read times would top the box off quite nice. >What do you do and what would you like to do, now that you run the most >efficient operating system this side of Starfleet? I've looked at the raid setup a few times, I think my ideal would actually be two separate arrays. A mirrored setup for /home and other stuff I worry about loosing like some configs etc. Then have /usr on a nice striped array for speed. Personally I enjoy reading a lot of the overclocking stuff from a different angle, super-cooling. I've not gone as far as the water- cooling set-ups or anything but I have bought a few pieces of overclocking equipment even though my machine runs at it's manufactured pace. For example I have a wonderful heatsink/fan setup with a throttle control that lets me run the fan at "silent" speeds without cooking my CPU. My case has nice airflow and such. My CPU runs at a reasonable temperature even though the box isn't in the greatest of positions for cooling. Because I've spent a little more on things like my fans they're quiet anyway, and the nice case muffles anything actually trying to make a noise even more. It's quite interesting what you can do for very little money, last time I brought things to play with I added 10UKP to the order and bought myself a cooling kit for my RAM. Hopefully it'll make it last a little longer, and if not I only spent a couple of pounds on a nice thing to play with. Each to their own really. I'm happy with my PCs performance so my goal is to make it as cool and quiet as possible. I guess if I had money to burn I'd play with overclocking just to see how far I could push something, but for now I'll settle with working in the opposite direction to most people. My machine is quiet, fast and didn't cost me much. What more could a geek want? :-) Kevin, who may install Windows to benchmark it all one day -- kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 4 18:50:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ns6.icdc.com (ns6.icdc.com [208.244.152.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDAA37B400 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ultra2000 (peco.6.intrepid.icdc.com [208.244.152.60]) by ns6.icdc.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g252o0U13862; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 21:50:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005d01c1c3f0$97d57280$2c14fea9@ultra2000> From: "Chauncey Smith" To: "Johnson David" , References: <20020304185950.C995437B419@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Security on Workstations Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 21:20:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I've read your post and I've found the security how to last night just wondering the web. It's to much for me to go into now and I have to admit being a new guy some of it is over my head but I can follow it like a cook book if need be. so I'm sending the link to the mailing list and you so that you may look at it at you're leasure. http://people.freebsd.org/~jkb/howto.html I hope you find it helpful. Chauncey Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: Johnson David To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: Security on Workstations > This months DaemonNews ezine has quite a bit of information on security. > Interesting to be sure, but I don't think that information really applies to > my boxen. I only have client systems that I maintain. > > At home my system is, well, a home system. I don't run a webpage off of it, > and the only authorized user is myself. I have an SMC Barricade broadband > router between it and the rest of the world. At work I have FreeBSD on a > workstation within the company network. I have to frequently use telnet and > rlogin to connect to other company systems which don't have ssh. > > What's the best strategy for securing these machines? Currently I'm using > standard FreeBSD settings out of the box, with nothing in not in the default > enabled. NFS and RPC are disabled. > > Thanks, > > David > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 4 19:23:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCF737B416 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 19:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a197.otenet.gr [212.205.215.197]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g253NE4L004578; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 05:23:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g253NDA0003754; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 05:23:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g253NAvZ003753; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 05:23:10 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: hades.hell.gr: charon set sender to keramida@freebsd.org using -f Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 05:23:08 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Johnson David Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security on Workstations Message-ID: <20020305032308.GA3537@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020304185950.C995437B419@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020304185950.C995437B419@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-03-04 10:59, Johnson David wrote: > This months DaemonNews ezine has quite a bit of information on security. > Interesting to be sure, but I don't think that information really applies to > my boxen. I only have client systems that I maintain. > > At home my system is, well, a home system. I don't run a webpage off of it, > and the only authorized user is myself. I have an SMC Barricade broadband > router between it and the rest of the world. At work I have FreeBSD on a > workstation within the company network. I have to frequently use telnet and > rlogin to connect to other company systems which don't have ssh. > > What's the best strategy for securing these machines? Currently I'm using > standard FreeBSD settings out of the box, with nothing in not in the default > enabled. NFS and RPC are disabled. I've found the following two simple steps to be sufficient for most of the machines I've set up until now. A workstation at home, that I use for every day work, and a few machines I've installed at other home user's places: - Don't run services that are not necessary for doing work. - Use ipfw or ipfilter with a default deny policy. - Use more than one access control types for open services. The first means that my inetd.conf (if inetd needs to run) contains just a few lines. Usually identd, for those who ask to connect to it, and comsat when I feel like it. The second step means that a default policy denies all incoming connections, and drops weird packets (too short fragments, and a few other things) on the floor. When I want to check a service, I can start it locally, without worrying that it will instantly be 'seen' on the net. I have to add a rule to the firewall ruleset to allow using it. This way, even when a new service is added, it has to be explicitly enabled by me, in order to be used. Of course, this is not a panakea, that cures all evil, and I also use other means of filtering who has access to each service if possible. Those services that have to be accesses by a few 'trusted' machines, are not allowed from 'any' in the firewall rules, and are also filtered through hosts.allow if possible. Finally, for those services that I have open, I run cronjobs that grep through the daily logs, and mail root@localhost at the end of every day, with any messages this service has generated. Another log grep wrapper filters all the random stuff, and sends only 'unrecognized' messages to another post to root@localhost. It seems like a bit of paranoia, but one can never be too sure, can he? Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 4 20:45:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe25.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.18.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585BD37B402 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:45:52 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [4.41.159.196] From: "Shawn Halloran" To: "freebsd-newbie" Subject: [2]make: fatal errors encountered Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:53:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 7.00.0021.1900 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1C3BE.A00A0BA0" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2002 04:45:52.0188 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0EAEFC0:01C1C400] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1C3BE.A00A0BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I receive the following error report: "/etc/make.conf", Line 1: need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue When I try to install Type 1 fonts. The only syntax listed in my /etc/make.conf file is =20 "XFREE86-4.1.0.6" on line one. The installation instructions for X v. 4.x said to add this syntax to the= file. I must have messed up the make.conf file when I did so. If I follow the instructions for make world in chapter 19 of the handbook= =20 can I recompile my system to version 4.4? =20 I need to fix the system, and I would like to avoid reinstalling the OS. =20 I almost have a functional system. =20 Shawn Halloran :-)>Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : = http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1C3BE.A00A0BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I receiv= e the following error report:
 
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When I try to install= Type 1 fonts.
 
The only syntax listed = in my /etc/make.conf file is
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The installation instructions for X v. 4.x sa= id to add this syntax to the file.
I must have messed up the m= ake.conf file when I did so.
 
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------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C1C3BE.A00A0BA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 5 0: 5:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30B6D37B416 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 00:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from wyldephyre2 (AUTH login) at unknown (HELO warhawk) (wyldephyre2@202.1.200.90) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2002 08:03:13 -0000 From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "'Shawn Halloran'" , "'freebsd-newbie'" Subject: RE: [2]make: fatal errors encountered Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:02:50 +0500 Message-ID: <000901c1c41c$2a65d650$c1c801ca@warhawk> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [CC'ed to questions] Aaah, have a look at /etc/defaults/make.conf to see what a make.conf should look like. Then, copy /etc/defaults/make.conf to /etc/make.conf, and edit it to make the appropriate changes. There is a line in there that says X version 3 or 4. Good luck. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Shawn Halloran Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:53 AM To: freebsd-newbie Subject: [2]make: fatal errors encountered I receive the following error report: "/etc/make.conf", Line 1: need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue When I try to install Type 1 fonts. The only syntax listed in my /etc/make.conf file is "XFREE86-4.1.0.6" on line one. The installation instructions for X v. 4.x said to add this syntax to the file. I must have messed up the make.conf file when I did so. If I follow the instructions for make world in chapter 19 of the handbook can I recompile my system to version 4.4? I need to fix the system, and I would like to avoid reinstalling the OS. I almost have a functional system. Shawn Halloran :-)> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBPIR7cxY2HTS0XwU2EQLR2gCfUj4hd7iDhhkwLtlDXhXGuQW57yEAni3s bOPVfoOHZsWkf7brLY526xZb =Tk7w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 5 3:10: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from relay.pair.com (relay1.pair.com [209.68.1.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C65AD37B400 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 03:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 53187 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2002 11:10:00 -0000 Received: from pd900589c.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO laptop) (217.0.88.156) by relay1.pair.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2002 11:10:00 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 217.0.88.156 Message-ID: <00c401c1c436$47abbd00$0901a8c0@system> From: "Tom Beer" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" Cc: References: <20020304185950.C995437B419@hub.freebsd.org> <20020305032308.GA3537@hades.hell.gr> Subject: Re: Security on Workstations Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:09:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Finally, for those services that I have open, I run cronjobs that grep > through the daily logs, and mail root@localhost at the end of every day, > with any messages this service has generated. Another log grep wrapper > filters all the random stuff, and sends only 'unrecognized' messages to > another post to root@localhost. Can you post a/or some sample script/s that you execute with cronjob? Thanks Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 5 4:49: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7147C37B400 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 04:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:48:58 +0000 Received: from lexx (unverified [62.31.198.203]) by pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:48:56 +0000 From: John Murphy To: "Shawn Halloran" Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [2]make: fatal errors encountered Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 12:48:56 +0000 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Shawn Halloran" wrote: >I receive the following error report: > >"/etc/make.conf", Line 1: need an operator >make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > >When I try to install Type 1 fonts. > >The only syntax listed in my /etc/make.conf file is =20 >"XFREE86-4.1.0.6" on line one. Change it to: XFREE86_VERSION=3D4 Best to ask questions of questions@freebsd.org and in plain text only. John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 5 7:59:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f207.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B117037B626; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:59:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:59:04 -0800 Received: from 146.163.166.136 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:59:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [146.163.166.136] From: "sandy nandy" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 09:59:04 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2002 15:59:04.0575 (UTC) FILETIME=[ACA810F0:01C1C45E] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys iam working on freebsd 4.0 and i have a questiion regarding the following. a)Identify any changes to the checksum of all suid files using the sum command. d) List all users and the locations thay have logged in from during the current month. List the user Just one time for each location. Any help is appreciated san _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 5 9:47:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FDE537B405 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mimerki (AUTH poptime) at adsl-20-121-81.chs.bellsouth.net (HELO Rozinante) (66.20.121.81) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2002 17:34:30 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Marcia Barrett Nice To: "sandy nandy" , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Checksum & logging question Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:34:00 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02030512340009.42045@Rozinante> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is probably best taken up on -questions. You may also want to be a little more clear as to what your question is. Marci On Tuesday 05 March 2002 10:59 am, sandy nandy wrote : | Hi guys | iam working on freebsd 4.0 and i have a questiion regarding the following. | | a)Identify any changes to the checksum of all suid files using the sum | command. | d) List all users and the locations thay have logged in from during the | current month. List the user Just one time for each location. | | Any help is appreciated | san | | -- So why, pray, sign anything as long as every word, letter, penstroke, paperspace is a perfect signature of its own? - James Joyce, Finnegans Wake _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 5 12: 2:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945E937B402 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:02:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a183.otenet.gr [212.205.215.183]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g25K2JDg025983; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 22:02:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g25K2J0O004795; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 22:02:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g25K2GVE004794; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 22:02:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hades.hell.gr: charon set sender to keramida@freebsd.org using -f Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 22:02:15 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Beer Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Security on Workstations Message-ID: <20020305200215.GA4550@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020304185950.C995437B419@hub.freebsd.org> <20020305032308.GA3537@hades.hell.gr> <00c401c1c436$47abbd00$0901a8c0@system> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c401c1c436$47abbd00$0901a8c0@system> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-03-05 12:09, Tom Beer wrote: > > > > Finally, for those services that I have open, I run cronjobs that grep > > through the daily logs, and mail root@localhost at the end of every day, > > with any messages this service has generated. Another log grep wrapper > > filters all the random stuff, and sends only 'unrecognized' messages to > > another post to root@localhost. > > Can you post a/or some sample script/s that you execute with cronjob? Sure, I've uploaded at freefall the set of scripts I have at home. The idea behind them was copied a year ago from /etc/periodic scripts. You can find a sample set of log filters at: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~keramida/today.tgz The tarball contains a today/* hierarchy. The today/run.sh script is suitable for putting in a crontab. The scripts assume that all your messages go into /var/log/messages, and that they will be able to read this file. A bit of editing might be needed to bring today/run.sh into shape. Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 6 5:23:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5626E37B400 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 05:23:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from perax1-066.dialup.optusnet.com.au (perax1-066.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.75.66]) by mail003.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g26DN2517474 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:23:03 +1100 Subject: unsubscribe From: madgino To: freebsd-newbie Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 06 Mar 2002 21:22:51 +0800 Message-Id: <1015420984.7889.0.camel@insane> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 6 15: 6:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8B737B404 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lordtoranga ([24.42.211.99]) by fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.04.06 201-253-122-122-106-20020109) with ESMTP id <20020306230629.BZTX449426.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@lordtoranga> for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:06:29 -0500 Message-ID: <002001c1c563$dcdb0560$0701a8c0@lordtoranga> From: "Jason Petrie" To: Subject: subscribe freebsd-newbies Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:08:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1C539.F39A0690" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.42.211.99] using ID at Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:06:29 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1C539.F39A0690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe freebsd-newbies ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1C539.F39A0690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1C539.F39A0690-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 6 16:40:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www.omicnet.com (ip-208-181-72-171.adsl.radiant.net [208.181.72.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8136737B41C for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from inspector2 (130-94-160-46-dsl.hevanet.com [130.94.160.46]) by www.omicnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA25668 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:40:32 -0800 Message-ID: <000f01c1c570$75936ed0$7404e9c6@inspector2> From: "Joshua Lokken" To: "Newbie list" Subject: Is the Handbook specific to... Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:38:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, all: Is the FreeBSD Handbook specific to any particular release(s)? Rather, is there a Handbook for each release, or are version-specific notes mostly covered in the x.x README? Jolok To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 6 16:52:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A6037B400 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7034428DDF; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:52:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:52:13 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Leftwich X-X-Sender: To: sandy nandy Cc: Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020306194838.V2150-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> Organization: Video2Video Services - http://Www.Video2Video.Com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (a) Uhm. Huh? (b) What happened to b? (c) Is c off in the bushes with b? (d) Provided you do not have syslog rotating logs, you could run "last | tail -r > lastlogins.log" then open this file in M$ Access or M$ Excel :) (6) It strikes me as odd that people still use FreeBSD 4.0 through < 4.5 STABLE. The OS is free! Broadband is everywhere! sysinstall will help you! :) -- Peter Leftwich President & Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, sandy nandy wrote: > Return-Path: > Received: from mail3.registeredsite.com (mail3.registeredsite.com > [64.224.9.12]) > by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4895E28B64 > for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:59:49 -0500 (EST) > Received: from mail.video2video.com (mail.video2video.com [209.35.10.22]) > by mail3.registeredsite.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id > g25F4bx22840 > for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:04:37 -0500 > Received: from mx2.freebsd.org [209.35.10.22] by mail.video2video.com > (SMTPD32-6.06) id AB742C2600D4; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:59:48 -0500 > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) > by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP > id 7B40455FDF; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:59:33 -0800 (PST) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) > id 9A7BC37B494; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:59:28 -0800 (PST) > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP > id 4D4212E800C; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:59:28 -0800 (PST) > Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Tue, > 5 Mar 2002 07:59:28 -0800 > Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Received: from hotmail.com (f207.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.207]) > by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP > id B117037B626; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:59:04 -0800 (PST) > Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; > Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:59:04 -0800 > Received: from 146.163.166.136 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; > Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:59:04 GMT > X-Originating-IP: [146.163.166.136] > From: "sandy nandy" > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 09:59:04 -0600 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > Message-ID: > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2002 15:59:04.0575 (UTC) > FILETIME=[ACA810F0:01C1C45E] > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > List-ID: > List-Archive: (Web Archive) > List-Help: (List Instructions) > List-Subscribe: > > List-Unsubscribe: > > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Precedence: bulk > > Hi guys - iam working on freebsd 4.0 and i have a questiion regarding the following. > a)Identify any changes to the checksum of all suid files using the sum command. > d) List all users and the locations thay have logged in from during the current month. List the user Just one time for each location. > Any help is appreciated > san To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 6 17: 2:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532F237B404 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:02:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA20EA; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:02:37 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:01:03 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-171.acuson.com [157.226.46.171]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GKG80GMD; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:51:59 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Peter Leftwich Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:02:26 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020306194838.V2150-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> In-Reply-To: <20020306194838.V2150-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020307010238.532F237B404@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 06 March 2002 04:52 pm, Peter Leftwich wrote: > The OS is free! True. > Broadband is everywhere! Not true. Maybe it is in La Jolla. But La Jolla isn't the rest of the world. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 6 18: 0:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFF537B417 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CCE28DFE; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:00:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:00:14 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Leftwich X-X-Sender: To: Johnson David Cc: Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <200203062002171.SM00329@odin.acuson.com> Message-ID: <20020306205830.D2150-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> Organization: Video2Video Services - http://Www.Video2Video.Com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mountain View, CA I would think, has ubiquitous broadband access! -- Peter Leftwich President & Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Johnson David wrote: > Return-Path: > Received: from mail2.registeredsite.com (mail2.registeredsite.com > [64.224.9.11]) > by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D6A28C95 > for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:02:39 -0500 (EST) > Received: from mail.video2video.com (mail.video2video.com [209.35.10.22]) > by mail2.registeredsite.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id > g2708BV11178 > for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:08:11 -0500 > Received: from odin.acuson.com [209.35.10.22] by mail.video2video.com > with ESMTP > (SMTPD32-6.06) id AC2E325D0094; Wed, 06 Mar 2002 20:02:38 -0500 > Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com > (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA20EA; > Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:02:37 -0800 > Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) > id ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:01:03 -0800 > Received: from there (dhcp-46-171.acuson.com [157.226.46.171]) by > mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service > Version 5.5.2653.13) > id GKG80GMD; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:51:59 -0800 > From: Johnson David > To: Peter Leftwich > Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Organization: Acuson > Subject: Re: > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:02:26 -0800 > X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] > References: <20020306194838.V2150-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> > In-Reply-To: <20020306194838.V2150-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Message-Id: <200203062002171.SM00329@odin.acuson.com> > > On Wednesday 06 March 2002 04:52 pm, Peter Leftwich wrote: > > The OS is free! > True. > > > Broadband is everywhere! > Not true. Maybe it is in La Jolla. But La Jolla isn't the rest of the world. > > David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 6 18: 4:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE0137B402 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA31AC; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:04:18 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:02:45 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-171.acuson.com [157.226.46.171]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GKG80GV8; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:53:43 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Peter Leftwich Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:04:11 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <20020306205830.D2150-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> In-Reply-To: <20020306205830.D2150-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020307020420.6DE0137B402@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 06 March 2002 06:00 pm, Peter Leftwich wrote: > Mountain View, CA I would think, has ubiquitous broadband access! Oh it does, if you can keep up with the continual fallout of ISPs. But I'm thinking about people other than you and I. Like people a mere thirty miles from me who have no choice but to use dialup. For very many people downloading the latest versions of FreeBSD is simply not an option. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 7 12:14:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web11702.mail.yahoo.com (web11702.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2649337B404 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:13:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020307201350.60464.qmail@web11702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.140.253.2] by web11702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Mar 2002 12:13:50 PST Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:13:50 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Erlin Subject: Re: X-window To: Devang Muchhala , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <000c01c1c610$f6198ad0$6401a8c0@cheesypoofs> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My best suggestion is to spend a good amount of time getting familiar with the XF86Config file. It contains all the relevant settings. I've found that getting help with X is difficult and knowing the config file is a better bet. For this particular error message, I'd start with the device driver entry you've got in there. Is it the right one for your video card? --Tim --- Devang Muchhala wrote: > Hello, > > I am very new at UNIX, but I am learning as I go > along. I have installed v4.4. I have followed > directions to try and install xwindow, and keep > getting error messages. I have tried to install it > during the initial install, and also with the > xf86config utility. > > The error message I get is "Fatal Server Error: > AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0". Of > course, being a newbie, I do not know how to use the > command line to send you the output file. > > I've tried suggestiosn form the website and the user > manual, but to no avail. > > I have bought the retail version from Walnut Creek. > I would really like to get the Xwindow up and going. > > Appreciate any help. > > Thanks, > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 7 13:40:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www.omicnet.com (ip-208-181-72-171.adsl.radiant.net [208.181.72.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A1437B405 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from inspector2 (130-94-160-46-dsl.hevanet.com [130.94.160.46]) by www.omicnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA19606 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:40:36 -0800 Message-ID: <000701c1c620$7bf017f0$7404e9c6@inspector2> From: "Joshua Lokken" To: "Newbie list" Subject: FreeBSD/Linux/XFree86 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:38:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello-- If I have Linux compatibility installed, can I use the Linux/DRI binaries for XFree86 4.2.0? I have not set up X yet, and DRI has a driver for my AGP ATI Rage 128 Pro card, and Xfree does not explicitly say that they support it. I'd like to use it...any help? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 7 13:45:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www.omicnet.com (ip-208-181-72-171.adsl.radiant.net [208.181.72.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2231E37B405 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from inspector2 (130-94-160-46-dsl.hevanet.com [130.94.160.46]) by www.omicnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA19774 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:45:25 -0800 Message-ID: <000d01c1c621$28252d30$7404e9c6@inspector2> From: "Joshua Lokken" To: "Newbie list" Subject: Postscript Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:43:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org further to FreeBSD/Linux/XFree86... XFree86 (4.1.0) says it supports the accelerated Rage 128 chipset, but doesn't mention Rage 128 Pro. I've read that I shouldn't assume compatibility, but it makes sense to me that the card would be supported. I've searched ATI, XFree86, and the FreeBSD docs.. Should I just try it and see if it works? I'd rather not lose the card or my monitor if possible...what experience do folks out there have with situations like this? Thanks, Jolok To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 7 13:51:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560D837B404 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g27IFA430747; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:15:10 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:15:10 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Joshua Lokken Cc: Newbie list Subject: Re: Is the Handbook specific to... Message-ID: <20020307181509.R337@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <000f01c1c570$75936ed0$7404e9c6@inspector2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="e4Ac2VUIqaLF2Uxx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <000f01c1c570$75936ed0$7404e9c6@inspector2>; from inspector.us@omicnet.com on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:38:22PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --e4Ac2VUIqaLF2Uxx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:38:22PM -0800, Joshua Lokken wrote: > Is the FreeBSD Handbook specific to any particular release(s)? Rather, is > there a Handbook for each release, or are version-specific notes mostly > covered in the x.x README? The Handbook generally tracks -stable. We tag it at release time, so that we can go back and build the version of the Handbook that was shipped at each release, but day-to-day the Handbook tries to follow -stable. Having said that, we don't just remove text from the Handbook (or FAQ or other documents) if it's no longer appropriate for the latest release of FreeBSD. The text is normally amended so that both the new and the old information is clearly delineated.. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --e4Ac2VUIqaLF2Uxx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyHri0ACgkQk6gHZCw343WLMwCbBkjm9cWLnaqgG3DL2FvmoGSL 0c0Ani8FXJ+gz5MV2Xx61T8rYsWhqkcP =vrT5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --e4Ac2VUIqaLF2Uxx-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 7 13:52: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1D737B421 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA36A0; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:51:40 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:50:05 -0800 Received: from there (dhcp-46-171.acuson.com [157.226.46.171]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GKG80M03; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:40:54 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Joshua Lokken , Newbie list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: Postscript Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:51:22 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <000d01c1c621$28252d30$7404e9c6@inspector2> In-Reply-To: <000d01c1c621$28252d30$7404e9c6@inspector2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020307215142.EB1D737B421@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday 07 March 2002 01:43 pm, Joshua Lokken wrote: > further to FreeBSD/Linux/XFree86... > > XFree86 (4.1.0) says it supports the accelerated Rage 128 chipset, but > doesn't mention Rage 128 Pro. I've read that I shouldn't assume > compatibility, but it makes sense to me that the card would be supported. > I've searched ATI, XFree86, and the FreeBSD docs.. Should I just try it > and see if it works? I'd rather not lose the card or my monitor if > possible...what experience do folks out there have with situations like > this? I have the Rage 128 Pro at work, and I had problems with it under 4.1.0. There are some patches out there that I have used to get it to work, but they are far from trivial to patch into the port. But XFree86-4.2.0 works wonderful! Unfortunately the XFree86-4.2.0 port was backed out for the FreeBSD-4.5 release, and hasn't been put back in yet. I do have a tarball of the port if you need it. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 7 20:14:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ns6.icdc.com (ns6.icdc.com [208.244.152.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7764F37B420 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:14:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ultra2000 (peco.91.galaxy.icdc.com [208.244.152.219]) by ns6.icdc.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g284EHd19774; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:14:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000201c1c657$e0272240$2c14fea9@ultra2000> From: "Chauncey Smith" To: "Joshua Lokken" , "Newbie list" References: <000f01c1c570$75936ed0$7404e9c6@inspector2> Subject: Re: Is the Handbook specific to... Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:02:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org well the handbook is updated with each new release because some things change from release to release. But with that said.I have bought an old copy and it helped me alot. There are some things I can't look up in there but that stuff is well documented else where and it's good the have the paper IMHO. Chauncey Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: Joshua Lokken To: Newbie list Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:38 PM Subject: Is the Handbook specific to... > Hello, all: > > Is the FreeBSD Handbook specific to any particular release(s)? Rather, is > there a Handbook for each release, or are version-specific notes mostly > covered in the x.x README? > > Jolok > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 8 7:11:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB4C37B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: [from pobox3.mot.com (pobox3.mot.com [10.64.251.242]) by ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox 2.1) with ESMTP id IAA28658 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:11:25 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from il33exm02.wes.mot.com (il33exm02.wes.mot.com [154.56.3.102]) by pobox3.mot.com (MOT-pobox3 2.0) with ESMTP id HAA16783 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:59:39 -0700 (MST)] Received: by il33exm02.wes.mot.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.52) id ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:11:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: Libby Charles-CCL044 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Download Difficulties Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:11:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2654.52) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I need to download 4.5 release. I have really liked the way the 4.4 installed and I want to get the newer release. Unfortunately, I have a dialup. At work I have higher bandwidth, but have a problem with the proxy server not letting me get through to the FTP Server. I can, though, get a download via HTTP. Any suggestions how to obtain the file through the HTTP proxy? Thanks, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 8 7:36:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [194.228.200.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B29D37B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:36:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g28FaO122066 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 16:36:25 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 2002030816322333:3369 ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 16:32:23 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28FnaG64332 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 16:49:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 16:49:36 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Download Difficulties Message-ID: <20020308154936.GA14049@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/08/2002 04:32:23 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 03/08/2002 04:32:29 PM, Serialize complete at 03/08/2002 04:32:29 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Libby Charles-CCL044 > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Download Difficulties > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:11:21 -0600 break your lines at ~72 chars, please. > I need to download 4.5 release. I have really liked the way the 4.4 > installed and I want to get the newer release. Unfortunately, I have > a dialup. At work I have higher bandwidth, but have a problem with > the proxy server not letting me get through to the FTP Server. I can, > though, get a download via HTTP. Any suggestions how to obtain the > file through the HTTP proxy? Thanks, this question comes up at least once a week. use the archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-questions -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 4:47PM up 8 days, 17:55, 9 users, load averages: 0.15, 0.08, 0.02 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 8 14:49:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail01.edsamail.com.ph (mail01.edsamail.com.ph [210.16.71.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E86D37B419 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:49:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9765 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2002 22:49:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO edsamail.com.ph) (10.2.0.251) by 10.2.0.251 with SMTP; 8 Mar 2002 22:49:19 -0000 X-Mailer: Edsamail 1.31 (Build 1129) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 06:57:10 +0800 From: "shancecgol S Yorgen" To: "freebsd-newbies" Subject: having one login,mail, samba password... Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20020308224921.6E86D37B419@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org we started our unix org in our school 2 months ago, and we were given 4 pcs. we wanted to setup a web, mail, file(samba), dns, etc... servers. The thing here is that our mail and login password for an account is the same while the samba password could be different. I want to know what should we do in order to syncronize our mail, login, and samba password. In a way that when a user changes his samba password it will change his mail and login account password, and vice versa, somebody told me about NIS, bit we dont want to use it... Thanx in advance, Shancecgol __________________________________ www.edsamail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 8 15:59:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.vaxxine.com (alpha.vaxxine.com [209.5.212.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6BB37B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (ppp14.digi-t3.st-cath.niagara.net [209.5.215.14]) by alpha.vaxxine.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA12658; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:59:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200203082359.SAA12658@alpha.vaxxine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Paul C. Boyle" To: Libby Charles-CCL044 Subject: Re: Download Difficulties Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:00:15 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Be warned! Most of KDE is not on the 4.5 iso. Read the errata. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/errata.html On March 8, 2002 10:11 am, you wrote: > I need to download 4.5 release. I have really liked the way the 4.4 > installed and I want to get the newer release. Unfortunately, I have a > dialup. At work I have higher bandwidth, but have a problem with the proxy > server not letting me get through to the FTP Server. I can, though, get a > download via HTTP. Any suggestions how to obtain the file through the HTTP > proxy? Thanks, > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 8 17: 4: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF2337B41E for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:03:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbcglobal.net (adsl-65-65-224-233.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net [65.65.224.233]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g2913tP09552; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:03:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3C895F7F.4783ACD6@sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 19:03:59 -0600 From: Travis Garrison X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Libby Charles-CCL044 , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Download Difficulties References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You might not have to worry about it. If your ISP is a local one (not like AOL) you can ask them to download it for you. It worked for me so you might give it a try. As for the FTP problem, they have FTP close at the firewall. Talk to someone nice in the IT Dept. Maybe they will download it for you, enable FTP for just that download, or maybe already have a copy. Hope this helps. Libby Charles-CCL044 wrote: > I need to download 4.5 release. I have really liked the way the 4.4 installed and I want to get the newer release. Unfortunately, I have a dialup. At work I have higher bandwidth, but have a problem with the proxy server not letting me get through to the FTP Server. I can, though, get a download via HTTP. Any suggestions how to obtain the file through the HTTP proxy? Thanks, > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 8 18:50:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from frankenstein.nwlink.com (pop.nwlink.com [209.20.130.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B0F37B417 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip21.cvd-r8.rb1.bel.nwlink.com (ip21.cvd-r8.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [207.202.168.21]) by frankenstein.nwlink.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g292oA228435; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:50:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from beeman@ip21.cvd-r8.rb1.bel.nwlink.com) Received: (from beeman@localhost) by ip21.cvd-r8.rb1.bel.nwlink.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g292o9E01593; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:50:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from beeman@ip21.cvd-r8.rb1.bel.nwlink.com) To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Cc: Charles.S.Libby@motorola.COM (Libby Charles-CCL044) Subject: Re: Download Difficulties References: From: beeman@ip21.cvd-r8.rb1.bel.nwlink.com (Roger L. Beeman) Date: 08 Mar 2002 18:50:09 -0800 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Charles.S.Libby@motorola.COM (Libby Charles-CCL044) writes: > I need to download 4.5 release. I have really liked the way the 4.4 > installed and I want to get the newer release. Unfortunately, I > have a dialup. At work I have higher bandwidth, but have a problem > with the proxy server not letting me get through to the FTP Server. > I can, though, get a download via HTTP. Any suggestions how to > obtain the file through the HTTP proxy? Thanks, You can use http to download 4.5 release iso images here: http://www.linuxiso.org/freebsd.html Roger L. Beeman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 8 19:10:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF0337B416 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g293A1B62959 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203090310.g293A1B62959@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 9 14:10:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21101.mail.yahoo.com (web21101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B68137B404 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:10:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020309221009.29779.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.24.197] by web21101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Mar 2002 14:10:09 PST Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:10:09 -0800 (PST) From: Vinod Subject: Sudden X failure To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had configured X on a New Dell dimension 4300 with freebsd 4.5 release and it was working well past 4-5 days.but yesterday when i typed startx i got the following messages.can anyone tell what has happened?it was working well.all i did i think was add some new packages like pine e.t.c and some X11's i think.didnt remove anyhing. Vinod ------------------------------------------------------- XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) Release Date: 2 June 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Sat Mar 9 00:31:25 2002 (==) Using config file: "/etc/XF86Config" Data incomplete in file /etc/XF86Config Device section "Primary Card" must have a Driver line. (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error from xf86HandleConfigFile() Fatal server error: no screens found __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 9 19:44:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f105.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D121837B402 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 19:44:28 -0800 Received: from 24.108.13.173 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 03:44:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.108.13.173] From: "Matthew Yeo" To: FreeBSD-Newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Radeon 7500 and X Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 20:44:28 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2002 03:44:28.0653 (UTC) FILETIME=[E16CD9D0:01C1C7E5] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Anyone with a Radeon 7500 up and running with 4.5 willing to copy their XF86Config file so I can see how to get the card going? I've tried just about everything, including reading all the back mail at the Xfree site, with nothing positive resulting. Reply to [getridofspam]aetherdesign@hotmail.com Matthew Yeo _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 9 21:10:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [216.187.106.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4652237B419; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 21:10:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dan@localhost) by m20.unixathome.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2A5A2m11044; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:10:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:10:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200203100510.g2A5A2m11044@m20.unixathome.org> From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-02-17 - 2002-03-09 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 23-Feb : PostgreSQL 7.2 upgrade and crypto A few small traps for you to avoid http://freebsddiary.org/postgresql-7.2.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 10 0: 0: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2826937B402 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA13875; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:53:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:53:30 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Libby Charles-CCL044 Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Download Difficulties In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Libby Charles-CCL044 wrote: > > I need to download 4.5 release. I have really liked the way the 4.4 installed and I want to get the newer release. Unfortunately, I have a dialup. At work I have higher bandwidth, but have a problem with the proxy server not letting me get through to the FTP Server. I can, though, get a download via HTTP. Any suggestions how to obtain the file through the HTTP proxy? Thanks, > You can also update your system with cvsup. You can get all the instructions from the handbook or one of the other books available on FreeBSD. Installing the full source from the 4.4 CD will make the cvsup time much shorter, but cvsup always just gets updates to the files you already have, so if it's interrupted you can run it again and eventually you'll get everything. (After you get the sources you rebuild the system with buildworld etc.) I've cvsupped sources over a 14.4 modem and had it work (after a few restarts) just fine. You might especially want to try it even if you want to reinstall, since you have this opportunity to practice. 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