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It is an open source system. OK , but how to read
it?
There is a heep of files. Where does the execution
begin after everything
is loaded? When I read some C code for Windows or DOS,
there is Winmain() or main()
functions. What is here of that kind? Where some
general skeleton of this
OS or source about source can be found? Give right
direction somebody,please.
Francisco B.
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On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:10:35PM -0700, Francisco Borggia wrote:
> It is an open source system. OK , but how to read
> it?
> There is a heep of files. Where does the execution
> begin after everything
> is loaded? When I read some C code for Windows or DOS,
> there is Winmain() or main()
> functions. What is here of that kind? Where some
> general skeleton of this
> OS or source about source can be found? Give right
> direction somebody,please.
>
> Francisco B.
>
>
>
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Scott Corey <scott@Amelia.bsdprophet.org> wrote:
>ftp://ftp.lt.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.5-RELEASE/src/
>
Those seem to be the compressed installation files.
>On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:10:35PM -0700, Francisco Borggia wrote:
>> It is an open source system. OK , but how to read it?
There's a gateway to the source at:
http://minnie.tuhs.org/FreeBSD-srctree/FreeBSD.html
Though it's much nicer to build both kernel and userland from source
on the very machine and then browse its brilliance through Apache/src2html.
>> There is a heep of files. Where does the execution
>> begin after everythin is loaded?
Begins with whatever you type, though there may be daemons listening in
the background and housekeeping processes going on. There's also the
mysterious "cron" which simply executes your predefined commands at
predetermined times.
>> When I read some C code for Windows or DOS, there is Winmain() or main()
>> functions. What is here of that kind?
I'm (unfortunately) no C expert but I'm fairly sure I've seen main(). The
other one is probably more windows centric and wouldn't be seen this side
of the known universe :)
>> Where some general skeleton of this OS or source about source can be f=
ound?
>> Give right direction somebody,please.
For a general skeleton the first book reference at the URL above is probabl=
y the
way to go. But if you just want a whole range of standard tools which you =
can
link together on the command line, a history mechanism that retains your wi=
sdom
(and failures)[1] and an unstoppable kernel (unless _you are_ the superuser=
)...
[1] Imagine my surprise and delight when I recently discovered that the sta=
ndard
(tcsh) history mechanism allows eg: grep <up arrow> to peruse my recent gre=
pings.
I guess "DOSkey" performed similarly.
John.
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> Can I simply disable icmp ping replies? or do I have to add rules in ipfw=
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>=20
> What can I do?
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> Thanks.
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 10:30:33PM -0500, uwi mAn wrote:
> I use mc quire alot, but everytime I Ctrl-O I see the following:
> Not an xterm or Linux console; the panels cannot be toggled.
>=20
> Solutions?
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
> --uwi mAn
Just a guess here... maybe u need to change the $TERM variable?
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 10:34:59PM -0500, uwi mAn wrote:
> Ogle and Mplayer 0.60 seem don't like Devil's Advocate much.
> After codecs things, my puter takes a cold bath.
> the rest dvd's i tried are fine, why is this happening?
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> FreeBSD 4.4 Release
Very weird, mplayer works just fine for me.. I'm using 4.5-Release.
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On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 07:52:00AM +0000, C P wrote:
> I installed xfree 4.1.0 it works fine, but its broken
> netscape, and I couldn't recompile nedit because various x
> dependencies were missing :(
>=20
> Is there anyway to install xfree without breaking
> everything? Or how do I repairs all the broken links?
>=20
> Some hints would be appreciated!
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> Chris Poole
Have u tried the very helpful tool called portupgrade? (in
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I hope you have all remembered that today is Jordan K. Hubbard's 39th
birthday!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JORDAN K. HUBBARD! :)
> It is an open source system. OK , but how to read
> it?
> There is a heep of files. Where does the execution
> begin after everything
> is loaded? When I read some C code for Windows or DOS,
> there is Winmain() or main()
> functions. What is here of that kind? Where some
> general skeleton of this
> OS or source about source can be found? Give right
> direction somebody,please.
>
> Francisco B.
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version and restart with the -4.5 CD's I downloaded from the FreeBSD
server, before investing too much work in an outdated version. If my
questions have different answers with 4.5, that would be great to know.
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_Bible_) that I may not have my IDE controllers working on an interrupt
basis. (Program startup does seem a bit ... er ... "leisurely.")
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got? If I can keep the current kernel, can I make IDE interrupt-mode
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Hello -
I am going through startup on a FreeBSD system which I plan to use as my
mail server. I'm sure I will burden this list a bit, and I appreciate your
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have a strong "Linux accent" for a while.
I installed the FreeBSD-4.0 which comes with R.Blum's _Running_qmail_ book
and have basic system, X11, and net functions. I plan to remove that
version and restart with the -4.5 CD's I downloaded from the FreeBSD
server, before investing too much work in an outdated version. If my
questions have different answers with 4.5, that would be great to know.
So, those first questions:
Q1) I see from my 'GENERIC' kernel configuration file (and the FreeBSD
_Bible_) that I may not have my IDE controllers working on an interrupt
basis. (Program startup does seem a bit ... er ... "leisurely.")
Do I have to rebuild the kernel to change the IDE controllers' "flags=",
or can this be configured at boot with the 4.0/GENERIC kernel image I've
got? If I can keep the current kernel, can I make IDE interrupt-mode
automatic on reboot?
Q2) I wish to use 'ssh' for my net login, and I hit a couple of bumps
installing it.
A) Before trying 'ports', I had first downloaded, built and installed
both 'openssl-0.9.??' and 'openssh-3.1p1' from those two organizations'
archives, to have the latest packages. No obvious problems showed at
building nor installing. Keys build OK and 'sshd' seems to start OK, but
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Is this just the first of several commonly-hit problems with a non-port
installation?
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'cyrpto'. I did the "X-Developer" installation and opted for MD5
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case, how do I obtain and install an appropriate lib set, while retaining
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On Saturday 06 April 2002 05:16 pm, Francisco Borggia wrote:
> MS Windows crashes once a day, KDE crashes (with
> a beautifull picture of fire)
> twice a day. Which of them should I choose?
As others have said before, it's like comparing Apples versus Oranges.
I have found KDE-2.2.2 to be extremely stable. I've never had it crash on me.
I did try out KDE-3.0.0 this weekend, and kicker (the panel) did lock up on
me twice. I don't know if this was KDE's fault, or if I didn't have it
installed right. This was under Slackware using prebuilt packages. I don't
trust prebuilt packages, as I never seem to have exactly the same hardware
and installed libraries as the guy building the package :-) I'm waiting for
the FreeBSD port before I try KDE3 on FreeBSD.
Remember the old saying, "never trust a x.0 release". In other words, if the
software version ends in a '0', it's likely to be a wee bit unstable. If you
are using KDE-3.0.0, I would suggest you stick with KDE-2.2.2 until KDE-3.0.1
comes out.
And as for the OS, I have never had FreeBSD crash on me. I did have Slackware
crash on me *once*, but that was my own damn fault for mucking about in
source code I didn't know anything about.
David
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On Sunday 07 April 2002 10:10 pm, Francisco Borggia wrote:
> There is a heep of files. Where does the execution
> begin after everything
> is loaded? When I read some C code for Windows or DOS,
> there is Winmain() or main()
> functions. What is here of that kind?
FreeBSD is an operating system. As such it has a whole bunch of components,
each with their own entry of execution, and several with NO entries of
execution. You won't find "Winmain()" in FreeBSD (or in any standard C
textbook either for that matter). Some components will have main function. If
this is where you want to start, then check out the "grep" command. It will
help you find it.
So where do you start looking? I would suggest the FreeBSD documentation that
came with the system, particularly that chapter out of Kirk McKusick's book
"The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System". Then I would
either start looking at the kernel itself if you feel masochistic enough, or
something simpler like "fetch". If you know C, then browsing through the C
Library is quite enlightening.
David
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What is the actual purpose of atrun? Doesn't cron do the same thing? (I notice that atrun is called by crontab).
In a base FreeBSD configuration, is anything run by atrun?
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On Monday 08 April 2002 15:55, Morsal Rodbay wrote:
> > FreeBSD 4.4 Release
> Very weird, mplayer works just fine for me.. I'm using 4.5-Release.
mplayer crashes my box constantly (done it from 4.3 through 4.5-STABLE,
freshly installed and X4.1->4.2). Ogle et al works "fine".
I filled a PR back i october
<http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31468> but nothing have happened
much since then.
Some of the issues back then seems to have been resolved after doing some
cleaning up i the kernelsource (ie. building the kernel "the old way"). And
now by making a fresh install. The computer runs stable, until I run mplayer.
I've have checked the RAM.
Whether it's X/drm or FreeBSD that's buggy or I've got some rare unnoticed
HW-issue, I don't know...
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In <20020408152804.GA25427@bsdprophet.org>, jmmills@telocity.com typed:
> I installed the FreeBSD-4.0 which comes with R.Blum's _Running_qmail_ book
> and have basic system, X11, and net functions. I plan to remove that
> version and restart with the -4.5 CD's I downloaded from the FreeBSD
> server, before investing too much work in an outdated version. If my
> questions have different answers with 4.5, that would be great to know.
>
> So, those first questions:
> Q1) I see from my 'GENERIC' kernel configuration file (and the FreeBSD
> _Bible_) that I may not have my IDE controllers working on an interrupt
> basis. (Program startup does seem a bit ... er ... "leisurely.")
>
> Do I have to rebuild the kernel to change the IDE controllers' "flags=",
> or can this be configured at boot with the 4.0/GENERIC kernel image I've
> got? If I can keep the current kernel, can I make IDE interrupt-mode
> automatic on reboot?
I'm not sure how to fix it in 4.0. In 4.5, the driver sets the I/O
mode to the highest that it believes the hardware can safely
handle. There is also a sysctl that lets you change each device
independently if it's wrong. If you're still having problems after the
upgrade, ask again.
> Q2) I wish to use 'ssh' for my net login, and I hit a couple of bumps
> installing it.
>
> A) Before trying 'ports', I had first downloaded, built and installed
> both 'openssl-0.9.??' and 'openssh-3.1p1' from those two organizations'
> archives, to have the latest packages. No obvious problems showed at
> building nor installing. Keys build OK and 'sshd' seems to start OK, but
> I fail logins due to not having PAM. What's the best way around this?
>
> Is this just the first of several commonly-hit problems with a non-port
> installation?
Ssh was bundled into the base system as soon as it became legal to do
so. Going to 4.5 will have ssh installed for you.
> B) The 'ports' "make build" of 'security/openssh' complains of missing
> 'cyrpto'. I did the "X-Developer" installation and opted for MD5
> passwords. Did this prevent installation of the 'crypto' package? In any
> case, how do I obtain and install an appropriate lib set, while retaining
> MD5 passwords on login?
It may have. I'm not sure of the status of the crypto part of the
source tree. Again, just update to 4.5, and the problems should go
away.
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On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Francisco Borggia wrote:
> It is an open source system. OK , but how to read
> it?
> There is a heep of files. Where does the execution
> begin after everything
> is loaded?
Well, execution begins with booting the system--from the
boot blocks, then using /boot/loader (or not), loading
the kernel, running the very first process which is usually
init, and then reading /etc/rc and following its commands.
Most of this is binaries compiled from source code; the
source is there, but it's not what gets executed. The scripts
in /etc are interpreted rather than compiled in advance, though.
But they too are source code.
If you want to find out how the system boots, you could read
man boot, man loader, man init, and man rc.
Reading /etc/rc and "tracking" through what it does and what
it reads (like the other rc.* scripts) is a useful way to
understand how the system starts up. Once it is started up,
a lot of stuff (various processes) is already running.
> When I read some C code for Windows or DOS,
> there is Winmain() or main()
> functions. What is here of that kind?
The source code (what the programmers wrote), if you installed
it, is in /usr/src. A great deal of this is written in C. In
/usr/src/sbin/init, for example, you will find the code for init,
and in init.c is a "main()" function. But this is not used when
the system starts up; the init binary (in /sbin/init) is what is
used. This is where the "open source" is.
>Where some
> general skeleton of this
> OS or source about source can be found? Give right
> direction somebody,please.
UNIX System Administration Handbook by Nemeth et.al. gives a
summary of how UNIX (including BSD) systems start.
Once you log in, your shell (which is a compiled binary) is also
running. The shell interprets what you type at the command line--
some of the commands are shell "builtins" and some of the commands
call programs. For example ls is a program that lists the files
in a directory. You run a UNIX program by typing its name.
I am sure some of the above is not quite precise, but it might
help as a general overview.
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Since yahoo is web based email, and you want it to work on a text terminal I recommend that you download /usr/ports/www/w3m. It is a text base web browser and should be able to give you what you want.
mail(1) is a program that works with sendmail and if you are not going to get the emails delivered to your FreeBSD machine, it will not accomplish what you want.
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> i want to be able to send/recieve mail via
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> to do it. i read some man pages and get mixed up. excuse my stupid question
> :)
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When I try to install linux-realplayer from the ports collection, it
won't install. I get the following error:
lymond# make install && make clean
Missing }.
In past installs, I have not had this problem, all I had to do was cp
the rp8_rpm to /usr/ports/distfiles directory and type make install
clean. rpm2cpio would be installed and I'd have to type make
install_NOCHECKSUM and everything would be fine.
So, I deleted the linux-realplayer port, ran cvsupit to refresh my
ports, but it still doesn't work.
I posted to the bsd-questions list and received no reply, also the list
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On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:57:30AM +0200, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote:
> On Monday 08 April 2002 15:55, Morsal Rodbay wrote:
>=20
> > > FreeBSD 4.4 Release
> > Very weird, mplayer works just fine for me.. I'm using 4.5-Release.
>=20
> mplayer crashes my box constantly (done it from 4.3 through 4.5-STABLE,=
=20
> freshly installed and X4.1->4.2). Ogle et al works "fine".
>=20
> I filled a PR back i october=20
> <http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D31468> but nothing have hap=
pened=20
> much since then.
>=20
> Some of the issues back then seems to have been resolved after doing some=
=20
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nd=20
> now by making a fresh install. The computer runs stable, until I run mpla=
yer.=20
> I've have checked the RAM.
>=20
> Whether it's X/drm or FreeBSD that's buggy or I've got some rare unnotice=
d=20
> HW-issue, I don't know...
It sounds hardware related to me... I once had an IDE problem and I supected
FreeBSD but it turned out to be my motherboard although I was very convinced
at first.
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Hi,
I'm interested to know what other printers people are
using for FreeBSD. I've been playing with 4.5 for a while
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Mainly I'm wanting something to print CVs etc.. from AbiWord
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can anybody suggest any good models?
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On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:14:54PM -0600, Scott Corey wrote:
> you might want to try gicq.
>=20
> On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:58:04PM -0800, Dale Morris wrote:
> > Is there a program that works for icq available to freebsd? I've tried
> > gnomeicu, licq, kxicq2 and nothing works very well. Kxicq2 crashes when
> > I run it, licq locks up after using it for a while and gnomeicu doesn't
> > send messages.=20
> >=20
> > I'm told the new icq format is the problem. Anyone got any solutions or
> > workarounds?
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There's a simple ICQ client called "licq". It works great with newer ICQ
clients but it doesnt support filetransfers. It's very stable compared to
other ICQ clients.
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There is such a printer HP Desk Jet 845c connected to
USB.
How to make it print under FreeBSD? The Handbook
describes all, but USB printers.
What to configure? Any link, please.
Fr. B.
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On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, dillama wrote:
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> What is the actual purpose of atrun? Doesn't cron do the same thing? (I notice that atrun is called by crontab).
>
> In a base FreeBSD configuration, is anything run by atrun?
>
You can look at man atrun and man at.
None of my installations have ever had anything installed in /var/at
except empty directories, so I don't think there's anything in the base
installation user "at" and therefore started by atrun.
Like user crontabs, users can be allowed or denied the use of "at". The
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times or times when resource use is low; but I think cron and crontab
are more familiar to most people and more flexible, so atrun and at have
fallen into dissuse.
I suppose (if you really cared) you could disable atrun in crontab and
find out if anything quits working, but somewhere there could be a script
you expect to work that uses "at" and therefore depends on atrun.
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I'm *learning* about ports and packages and such. I'm wondering if I
download all the KDE3 packages from the KDE/FreeBSD tree to a directory
can I install it with pkg_add? Are there any hidden problems I need to
know about?
thanks
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On Thursday 11 April 2002 04:06 pm, Dale Morris wrote:
> I'm *learning* about ports and packages and such. I'm wondering if I
> download all the KDE3 packages from the KDE/FreeBSD tree to a directory
> can I install it with pkg_add? Are there any hidden problems I need to
> know about?
Yes, you can. Read any READMEs there carefully, and download all non-KDE
packages there as well that you don't already have installed (or uninstall
any old versions you might have).
I am not using these packages because they expect to find a stock 4.5-RELEASE
installation, but I have since upgraded several of the dependent ports so
they don't work for me. So I am waiting a few more weeks for the official
port to come out.
David
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Why do that when you can just use pkg_add -v ftp.site_where_package_is.com/location/ and the package will be installed.
Now with kde3, just remember that NO kde packages or QT packages be installed prior to installation of kde3. In other words, if you have kde2 or less installed now, remove it before installation of kde3.
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> I'm *learning* about ports and packages and such. I'm wondering if I
> download all the KDE3 packages from the KDE/FreeBSD tree to a directory
> can I install it with pkg_add? Are there any hidden problems I need to
> know about?
>
> thanks
>
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FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit
(This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list.
It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/)
FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about
installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests
are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions.
FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to
questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies.
FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and
covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt
with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on
our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how
to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to
use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories,
moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the
FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to
freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are
doing the same things that we do as newbies.
One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find
help when we need it. Here are some suggestions:
When something doesn't work the way you expect
1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at
http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and
security advisories.
2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at
http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html
3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of
`uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question
to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.
Mailing lists
When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only
one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG.
FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as
more general and advanced questions.
You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a
question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you
personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and
followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them
different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to
freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the
recent questions and their answers.
Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer
FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when
they get questions which are difficult to understand.
http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too.
If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and
ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to
the support mailing list.
Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing
list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might
get the answer right away. It's always worth trying.
Other mailing lists
(http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS)
cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll
need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's
probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for
advice about where to post a more specialised question.
FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional
announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick
Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too.
Manuals
You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to
use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not
always as easy as it sounds!
If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a
brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need,
always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you
do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction.
Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is
encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at
http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html
Other resources
A resource list is available at
http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and
inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It
includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web
pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a
suggestion for good material to be included, please write to
freebsd-newbies and tell us about it.
But I have seen people asking questions here!
It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a
mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from
time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't
belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose
job it is to sort these problems out privately.
The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It
is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies
so we all make mistakes. That's OK.
One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions,
believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies,
not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the
situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to
redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently.
There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either.
So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions
as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies
can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on
our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not
allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the
mistakes that we need to make in order to learn.
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