From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun May 19 0:15: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050F537B40E for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 00:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4J79xH15740; Sun, 19 May 2002 00:09:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 00:09:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Ryan Sutton Cc: Free BSD Subject: Re: NIC cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 16 May 2002, Ryan Sutton wrote: > I am running 2.2.5 and would like to know if the two NIC's I have in my computer will work with BSD, is there a hardware compatibilty list I can use for a cross reference on NIC's? I am trying to add a 3com Etherlink III 3C5098-C NIC and a Kingston Kne20t NIC, thank you. > > Ryan > As I recall there's a HARDWARE.TXT file somewhere in the / directory, probably in /stand/ or /stand/help. But if you're connecting to the Internet, upgrading for the newer security capabilities would be a good idea (actually installing 4.5 or 4.6 when it comes out in a few weeks). Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun May 19 0:15:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B2D37B406 for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 00:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4J74kH15729; Sun, 19 May 2002 00:04:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 00:04:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Jon Craig Cc: "'mike shupp'" , FBSD newbies Subject: RE: make install dies with "write failed" In-Reply-To: <000801c1fcf2$3ec3f780$2137a418@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 16 May 2002, Jon Craig wrote: > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 128990 125052 -6380 105% / > /dev/ad0s1g 252942 2 232706 0% /tmp > /dev/ad0s1e 1763982 778614 844250 48% /usr > /dev/ad1s1f 692622 50 637164 0% /usr/home > /dev/ad1s1e 692462 28766 608300 5% /usr/local > /dev/ad0s1f 252942 1140 231568 0% /var > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > /dev/fd0 1424 33 1391 2% /mnt/a > > I can see that '/' is full - how do know what I can delete? I moved the > 'old' kernel from '/' to '/usr/fw_files/' and was wondering how I know > what else to delete. I dowloaded tripwire and still have the source on > /root/tripwire. Since I already installed it, is it safe to delete now? > The / file system is generally not a big enough place (128MB should be plenty, actually, although people are beginning to use 200MB) to download and build software. You should do that, as root if necessary, in a /usr/home/ directory or in ports. cd /root; du -sh tripwire to find out how big that directory is. I'd recommend moving it. 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I ran the = configuration prog for X windows, however when i try and run "startx" I = get a bunch of errors, I know the video card is setup properly so I'm = not sure why My computer can't switch into Graphical mode, I had to run = the text based configuration tool to setup X windows. I would post a log = of my startx errors in this mail message but I havn't yet figured out = how to log errors =3D\, anyways the first error says = "_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno =3D 61" and there are = a bunch of other TransSocket error 61 mssges, the last message is = "xinit: No such process (errno 61): Server error", Also my .xinitrc file = looks like this : #!/bin/tcsh exec /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA I did research in various places on the web but nothing has helped so = far ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C1FF36.90680EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just recently installed BSD 2.X on my = second=20 computer. I ran the configuration prog for X windows, however when i try = and run=20 "startx"  I get a bunch of errors, I know the video card is setup = properly=20 so I'm not sure why My computer can't switch into Graphical mode, I had = to run=20 the text based configuration tool to setup X windows. I would post a log = of my=20 startx errors in this mail message but I havn't yet figured out how to = log=20 errors =3D\, anyways the first error says "_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: = Can't=20 connect: errno =3D 61" and there are a bunch of other TransSocket error = 61 mssges,=20 the last message is "xinit: No such process (errno 61): Server error", = Also my=20 .xinitrc file looks like this :
#!/bin/tcsh
exec = /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA
 
I did research in various places on the = web but=20 nothing has helped so far
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FreeBSD? 2.X, really such an old version? Your .xinitrc file is unconventional--/usr/X11Ry/bin/X should be linked to your XF86_SVGA server so that should be an unnecessary command...and /bin/tsch does not exist in 2.X. Try deleting the .xinitrc or copying the one in the /usr/X11R6 hierarchy to your home directory and then check the error messages again. Annelise >I ran the configuration prog for X windows, however when i try and run >"startx" I get a bunch of errors, I know the video card is setup >properly so I'm not sure why My computer can't switch into Graphical mode, I had >to run the text based configuration tool to setup X windows. 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Tell it that "localhost" has an internet address of 127.0.0.1 and it should know to look inside your box. ----Original Message Follows---- From: jehova To: kde-freebsd@lists.csociety.org CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-Questions Subject: can't connect to localhost Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 13:34:45 -0700 can't connect to localhost, program kde system guard (KSysguard) complaints at its start up lik this: 'can't connect to localhost ' 'OK' could some body help me on this misconfigurarion, thanks, my box is celeron 633 intel, 128 Mb ram 20G Hd, sis6326 grafix, freebsd 4.5 generic kernel, no LAN stand alone PC, PPP working on console (KPPP hangs on click),generic kernel, i'll apreciate your help. thanks _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ __ Jehova _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \/ \ tornadox@telnor.net _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | | FreeBSD!!! _ |___/___/___/ \/ "Extracting Wisdom from Sinful... () ...Searching State of Purity." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 20 8:33:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from prv-mail20.provo.novell.com (prv-mail20.provo.novell.com [137.65.81.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDD337B401 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 08:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from INET-PRV-MTA by prv-mail20.provo.novell.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 20 May 2002 10:32:46 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.2 Beta Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:32:53 -0600 From: "Jeff Frederick" To: Subject: Understanding FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm new to this FreeBSD thing, but I'm tired of Microsoft. I REALLy want to find an alternative. I'm getting ready to put up FBSD on my home desktop and have a few questions. I've been reading up on this stuff, FreeBSD Unleashed, the FreeBSD handbook (I actually bought the printed version!), as well as Annelise Anderson's book. I've also printed out the FAQ as well as a number of other Web based info. I've downloaded the 4 CD ISO's and burned them to disk. So, now the questions. 1. It seems like FBSD 4.5 supports USB out of the box, that I don't have to recompile the kernal or anything. Is this correct? 2. Wacom Tablet support. I'm gathering that there is no native Wacom Tablet driver, mostly for X. I've found that there is an OpenBSD driver and this it should work for X and FBSD. Is anyone out there using that driver?? Comments? 3. CVSup. I want to install the 4.5 release version on my desktop and then update to all the latest release patches and updates. I also then want to update all the ports and packages that come on the CD's. Is the a key or tag that just updates ALL the code I've installed on my disk?? It seems that the "catagories" are specific to groups of ports. As far as the kernal or core OS, can I just use the RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE tag?? 4. Soundblaster Live support. In section 14.2.1 of the Handbook, it says that the SB Live is not supported under FBSD 4.0 without a patch. I am readning that as meaning that it IS support in the core OS with versions later that 4.0. Does this mean that 4.5 (and 4.6 support it out of the box? 5. Release 4.5 vs. 4.6 and X3 vs. X4. I guess 4.6 is going to be out soon. Will it actually install X4? If so, would it be recommended to wait the couple of weeks to get that vs. installing 4.5?? Thx for the assistance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 20 10:43:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA7137B90C; Mon, 20 May 2002 10:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAACD5; Mon, 20 May 2002 10:41:44 -0700 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 20 May 2002 10:37:19 -0700 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-166.acuson.com [157.226.46.166]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id JXB8YFF8; Mon, 20 May 2002 10:37:50 -0700 From: Johnson David To: jehova , kde-freebsd@lists.csociety.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: can't connect to localhost Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:41:37 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <200205191334.45657.tornadox@telnor.net> In-Reply-To: <200205191334.45657.tornadox@telnor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200205201041.37718.djohnson@acuson.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 19 May 2002 01:34 pm, jehova wrote: > can't connect to localhost, > program kde system guard (KSysguard) > complaints at its start up lik this: > > 'can't connect to localhost ' First, read the KSysGuard handbook. It has a few pointers for FreeBSD. ksysguardd must be owned by group kmem, and must be setgid. Second, you must either have ssh working properly, or start ksysguardd manually before you start ksysguard using a daemon connection. I found that using ssh is the easiest. Read the FreeBSD handbook on OpenSSH, turn on sshd in sysinstall, and generate your keys. To see if it works, type: ssh localhost ksysguardd and you should see the ksysguardd prompt (type quit to quit). Then start up ksysguard. David p.s. Differentiate between 'ksysguard' and 'ksysguardd' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 20 12: 3: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11A937B400 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 12:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rozinante mimerki@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [66.20.120.182] by smtp-send.myrealbox.com with NetMail SMTP Agent $Revision: 3.8 $ on Novell NetWare; Mon, 20 May 2002 13:02:39 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Marcia Barrett Nice To: "Jeff Frederick" , Subject: Re: Understanding FreeBSD Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:02:14 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0205201502140H.00345@Rozinante> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 20 May 2002 11:32 am, Jeff Frederick wrote Understanding FreeBSD: | I'm new to this FreeBSD thing, but I'm tired of Microsoft. I REALLy | want to find an alternative. I'm getting ready to put up FBSD on my | home desktop and have a few questions. I've been reading up on this | stuff, FreeBSD Unleashed, the FreeBSD handbook (I actually bought the | printed version!), as well as Annelise Anderson's book. I've also | printed out the FAQ as well as a number of other Web based info. I've | downloaded the 4 CD ISO's and burned them to disk. So, now the | questions. Congrats and good luck!! | | 1. It seems like FBSD 4.5 supports USB out of the box, that I don't | have to recompile the kernal or anything. Is this correct? | I believe USB is supported out of the box. This does not necesarily mean that you won't need drivers for any given device though. | 2. Wacom Tablet support. I'm gathering that there is no native Wacom | Tablet driver, mostly for X. I've found that there is an OpenBSD driver | and this it should work for X and FBSD. Is anyone out there using that | driver?? Comments? No clue. Searching freebsd.org gave me no results for 'wacom tablet' or 'wacom'. You might try asking this on -questions. | | 3. CVSup. I want to install the 4.5 release version on my desktop and | then update to all the latest release patches and updates. I also then | want to update all the ports and packages that come on the CD's. Is the | a key or tag that just updates ALL the code I've installed on my disk?? | It seems that the "catagories" are specific to groups of ports. As far | as the kernal or core OS, can I just use the RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE tag?? I am going to try to answer the question I think you're asking. You can use CVSup to update the source code on your system. In order to update the ports collection you would want to CVSup the ports collection. This will make it possible for you to install the latest and greatest, but will not update the programs you already have installed. To do that you will want to install portupgrade (which is conveniently available in the ports collection) and run it _after_ CVSup-ing the ports collection. Regarding the FBSD source itself, if you use the tag RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE you will get precisely the code on your 4.5 CDs. As that wouldn't help much, you are more likely to want RELENG_4_5 (contains security patches etc. for 4.5 release) or RELENG_4 (-STABLE). | | 4. Soundblaster Live support. In section 14.2.1 of the Handbook, it | says that the SB Live is not supported under FBSD 4.0 without a patch. | I am readning that as meaning that it IS support in the core OS with | versions later that 4.0. Does this mean that 4.5 (and 4.6 support it | out of the box? | I believe you are correct but have have no evidence with which to support this conclusion. | | 5. Release 4.5 vs. 4.6 and X3 vs. X4. I guess 4.6 is going to be out | soon. Will it actually install X4? If so, would it be recommended to | wait the couple of weeks to get that vs. installing 4.5?? | WARNING: The following is advice and based entirely on my opinion and experience. Your milage may vary. As you've already got the 4.5 CDs and you seem to understand the idea of CVSup, I'd say install 4.5 and see what you think. You can always update later. (personally, I have one of the 4.3 CDs put out by WindRiver that I use for most of my initial installations and then update from there) It appears that XFree86 4.2 will be the default installation with 4.6 (I guess I should look into upgrading that, huh). I haven't tried running Xfree84 4.x since 4.0.x, so I can't advise there. This information might make it worth your while to wait on FBSD 4.6. On the other hand, you might want to keep in mind that your first installation is usually poorly done, install 4.5 now and see what you think on the assumption that you will either have to re-install or upgrade anyway. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/qa.html for the change in XFree86 version. Good luck. I hope this helps. Marci -- So why, pray, sign anything as long as every word, letter, penstroke, paperspace is a perfect signature of its own? - James Joyce, Finnegans Wake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 20 12:35:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6CE37B405 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 12:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA1D9A; Mon, 20 May 2002 12:35:38 -0700 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 20 May 2002 12:31:14 -0700 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-166.acuson.com [157.226.46.166]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id JXB8YG7Z; Mon, 20 May 2002 12:31:39 -0700 From: Johnson David To: Jeff Frederick , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: Understanding FreeBSD Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:35:26 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200205201235.26629.djohnson@acuson.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 20 May 2002 08:32 am, Jeff Frederick wrote: > 1. It seems like FBSD 4.5 supports USB out of the box, that I don't > have to recompile the kernal or anything. Is this correct? That is true. But be warned that USB support doesn't mean that every USB device is supported. If they're not a generic device like mice or keyboards, they'll still need their own driver. Not everything on the market will work. > 2. Wacom Tablet support. I'm gathering that there is no native Wacom > Tablet driver, mostly for X. I've found that there is an OpenBSD driver > and this it should work for X and FBSD. Is anyone out there using that > driver?? Comments? I don't have a Wacom tablet, but XFree86-4 does build a wacom driver by default. I don't know what else is needed under FreeBSD for it to work. If there is an OpenBSD driver, then there should also be a FreeBSD driver. > 3. CVSup. I want to install the 4.5 release version on my desktop and > then update to all the latest release patches and updates. I also then > want to update all the ports and packages that come on the CD's. Is the > a key or tag that just updates ALL the code I've installed on my disk?? There are several example cvsup files under /usr/share/examples/cvsup. Copy and edit the ports-supfile for updating ports, and copy and edit the stable-supfile for updating stable. The tags are already set in these files. > 4. Soundblaster Live support. In section 14.2.1 of the Handbook, it > says that the SB Live is not supported under FBSD 4.0 without a patch. Don't know. That's another piece of hardware I don't have. But note that there is a patch. That's good news. It could be that it's in current- but that they haven't backported it to stable- yet. > 5. Release 4.5 vs. 4.6 and X3 vs. X4. I guess 4.6 is going to be out > soon. Will it actually install X4? If so, would it be recommended to > wait the couple of weeks to get that vs. installing 4.5?? The preliminary release notes for 4.6 say that XFree86-4 will be the default. Yay! But don't wait. Install 4.5 and play around, discover, and learn. Then when 4.6 comes out, you'll be that much further along. David p.s. You used the phrase "out of the box" quite a lot. Don't be afraid to rebuild the OS and use the ports. It's not really that hard if you read the Handbook first. And the benefits are enormous. Of course, you don't want to do this your first time. But eventually you will want to. On my 1.4Ghz machine, I can sup down the latest release and rebuild the base from scratch quicker than I can install WinME and my required drivers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 20 12:41:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741A137B408 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 12:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caomhin.demon.co.uk ([212.228.234.119]) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 179t2E-000DB9-0a; Mon, 20 May 2002 20:41:37 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:41:24 +0100 To: Marcia Barrett Nice Cc: Jeff Frederick , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Kevin Golding Subject: Re: Understanding FreeBSD References: <0205201502140H.00345@Rozinante> In-Reply-To: <0205201502140H.00345@Rozinante> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Someone, quite probably Marcia Barrett Nice, once wrote: >On Monday 20 May 2002 11:32 am, Jeff Frederick wrote Understanding FreeBSD: >| 2. Wacom Tablet support. I'm gathering that there is no native Wacom >| Tablet driver, mostly for X. I've found that there is an OpenBSD driver >| and this it should work for X and FBSD. Is anyone out there using that >| driver?? Comments? > >No clue. Searching freebsd.org gave me no results for 'wacom tablet' or >'wacom'. You might try asking this on -questions. I believe the bigger issue is whether or not X will support it. I think I heard it did but that information comes without a money back guarantee. :-) >Regarding the FBSD source itself, if you use the tag RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE you >will get precisely the code on your 4.5 CDs. As that wouldn't help much, you >are more likely to want RELENG_4_5 (contains security patches etc. for 4.5 >release) or RELENG_4 (-STABLE). RELENG_4_5 is the best option. Whilst -stable is incredibly stable it's not perfect and all the docs say so. Once you're a bit happier with FreeBSD then move up to -stable, and eventually -current, but don't get carried away just yet. >| 5. Release 4.5 vs. 4.6 and X3 vs. X4. I guess 4.6 is going to be out >| soon. Will it actually install X4? If so, would it be recommended to >| wait the couple of weeks to get that vs. installing 4.5?? >As you've already got the 4.5 CDs and you seem to understand the idea of >CVSup, I'd say install 4.5 and see what you think. You can always update >later. (personally, I have one of the 4.3 CDs put out by WindRiver that I >use for most of my initial installations and then update from there) I'd actually advise not installing X as part of the distro. I find it a lot easier to install a basic system and then add things like that through ports/packages. If you do that then you'll also find it easier to upgrade to X4.2 (which I'm pretty sure is in the ports collection already. Install 4.5, CVSUP your ports and then install X4.2) Just what I find easier. >On the other hand, you might >want to keep in mind that your first installation is usually poorly done, >install 4.5 now and see what you think on the assumption that you will either >have to re-install or upgrade anyway. I think most people take a couple of tries before they're happy :-) -- kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 20 13:52: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC79B37B413 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 13:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a233.otenet.gr [212.205.215.233]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4KKpQwM019561 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 23:51:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4KKpBD1019596 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 23:51:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4KHXOUl018295; Mon, 20 May 2002 20:33:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:33:24 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jeff Frederick Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Understanding FreeBSD Message-ID: <20020520173324.GE16779@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-05-20 09:32, Jeff Frederick wrote: > > 1. It seems like FBSD 4.5 supports USB out of the box, that I don't > have to recompile the kernal or anything. Is this correct? Hello Jeff, The installation cdroms include a version of the FreeBSD kernel called GENERIC. This includes a lot of drivers already. It does indeed have USB support compiled into the kernel. You can always use the GENERIC kernel if it seems to meet your needs and requirements. After you have become acquainted with the way FreeBSD works and feel comfortable about it, you might want to build a kernel of your own, which includes all the drivers you want and only those. This is both a useful exercise in getting to know the way everything can be rebuilt from the sources in FreeBSD, and an optimization that you'll probably like (since a smaller kernel that includes only those things you are currently using takes up less memory in your system, and frees a few resources for other things). > 3. CVSup. I want to install the 4.5 release version on my desktop > and then update to all the latest release patches and updates. The FreeBSD Handbook has a section that explains how you can upgrade to the STABLE version of FreeBSD at any given time. Find it at http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en/books/handbook/current-stable.html#STABLE > I also then want to update all the ports and packages that come on > the CD's. You don't need to upgrade them all. Packages that are released on the CDROMs are snapshots of the ports directory near the date of the release of that particular version of FreeBSD. You can use the ports infrastructure, installed in /usr/ports during the setup of the machine, to grab and build any program's latest version. > As far as the kernal or core OS, can I just use the > RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE tag?? You'll probably like RELENG_4_5 better since it includes all the security fixes that have been found since 4.5-RELEASE was out. It is a convenient way to upgrade to the latest and greatest, as far as 4.5-RELEASE is concerned. Look at http://www.FreeBSD.org/security too, for more information on what RELENG_4_5 is all about. Another option is to use the RELENG_4 tag that will bring you smoothly the latest 4.x version any day. This is explained in the #STABLE section of the Handbook linked above. > 5. Release 4.5 vs. 4.6 and X3 vs. X4. I guess 4.6 is going to be > out soon. Will it actually install X4? If so, would it be > recommended to wait the couple of weeks to get that vs. installing > 4.5?? My advice would be to install 4.5 anyway. My first 4-5 installations of FreeBSD were scratched and reinstalled shortly after I was finished. Different partition layouts, differences in the sets of packages installed, or other minor stuff that you need to try and see for yourself are probably worth the trouble of ``testing'' 4.5-RELEASE before you get 4.6-RELEASE and install it for every day use. This doesn't mean that you absolutely `have to' install FreeBSD a dozen times. It just means that as you learn more about the operating system you'll probably want to reinstall later to change something that you don't like about the initial setup. Why miss the chance to test it all now, with 4.5-RELEASE and upgrade to 4.6-RELEASE later when it becomes available? Cheers, -- Giorgos Keramidas - http://www.FreeBSD.org keramida@FreeBSD.org - The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 20 18:17:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1DA37B40E for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 18:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dual866 (6534115hfc67.swfla.rr.com [65.34.115.67] (may be forged)) by smtp-server3.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g4L1HOQH020787 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 21:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:19:58 -0400 From: Jon X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60c) Educational X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <709527312.20020520211958@email.com> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mail client MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org are there any e-mail clients for x windows like "the bat"? http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/features.html i under stand some features are windows related. i have become addicted to the power of "the bat" but would love to drop windows all together; its the only thing keeping my last windows box around. thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon May 20 21:24:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from VOLTAIRE.stic.net (mail.stic.net [204.57.118.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B84537B410 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 21:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wallace ([216.198.63.49]) by VOLTAIRE.stic.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70040U18500L11000S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Mon, 20 May 2002 20:42:56 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Julian Peterson To: Jon , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mail client Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:37:56 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 References: <709527312.20020520211958@email.com> In-Reply-To: <709527312.20020520211958@email.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200205202037.56323.weaver@earthcorp.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 May 2002 8:19 pm, Jon wrote: > are there any e-mail clients for x windows like "the bat"? > > http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/features.html > > i under stand some features are windows related. > > i have become addicted to the power of "the bat" but would > love to drop windows all together; its the only thing keeping > my last windows box around. > > thanks > KMail meets or beats all but the templates and the ticker Some info: http://apps.kde.com/uk/0/info/id/146 It really depends on what you find the "Killer" features to be. Regards, Julian. --=20 For a man to truly understand rejection, he must first be ignored by a=20 cat. 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Is this something that requires a recompile of the FreeBSD kernel or can I accomplish by simply loading a kernel module? I am looking for the easiest way to enable this so I can test it and see if it will work for me, as I prefer to run my home machine without X Window. Thanks, Jeff Flowers jeffrey@jeffreyf.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri May 24 7:45: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.carolina.rr.com (fe4.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACA437B404 for ; Fri, 24 May 2002 07:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chtlt033 ([24.74.25.55]) by mail4.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 24 May 2002 09:48:29 -0400 Message-ID: <010601c20329$ab788520$b701010a@chtlt033> Reply-To: "Brian P. Trotter" From: "Brian P. Trotter" To: Subject: Need Apache and ddclient to start at boot Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 09:48:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0103_01C20308.2429B510" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C20308.2429B510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a fresh install of FreeBSD 4.5 on my server. I have installed = Apache and ddclient (Dynamic DNS app) installed. I can manually start = each of these applications, but I can not get them to start = automatically. I placed a copy of the ddclient script in the = /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ directory, but it doesnt start. I have to manually = go to that directory and run that file to start it. As far as Apache, I created a file called httpdstart.sh, used an editor = and placed: /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl start inside the file, and also put it in the rc.d directory. It doesnt start = either, but I assume that is because of something I am doing wrong. Can someone enlighten me on the proper procedure for doing this? Thanks, Brian T. ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C20308.2429B510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a fresh install of FreeBSD 4.5 = on my server.=20 I have installed Apache and ddclient (Dynamic DNS app) installed. I can = manually=20 start each of these applications, but I can not get them to start = automatically.=20 I placed a copy of the ddclient script in the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ = directory,=20 but it doesnt start. I have to manually go to that directory and run = that file=20 to start it.
 
As far as Apache, I created a file = called=20 httpdstart.sh, used an editor and placed:
/usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl = start
inside the file, and also put it in the = rc.d=20 directory. It doesnt start either, but I assume that is because of = something I=20 am doing wrong.
 
Can someone enlighten me on the proper = procedure=20 for doing this?
 
 
 
Thanks,
Brian T.
------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C20308.2429B510-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri May 24 8:16: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from wildcatblue.com (flanders.wildcatblue.com [206.157.147.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524A237B41A for ; Fri, 24 May 2002 08:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asgidavid (208-32-50-91.xdsl.qx.net [208.32.50.91]) by wildcatblue.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CA4F1442CF; Fri, 24 May 2002 11:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <028701c20335$d9146e20$1506810a@asgidavid> From: "David Rhodus" To: "Brian P. Trotter" , References: <010601c20329$ab788520$b701010a@chtlt033> Subject: Re: Need Apache and ddclient to start at boot Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 11:15:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0284_01C20314.51BC7650" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0284_01C20314.51BC7650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Might try chmod +x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/httpdstart.sh ciao, Dave ----- Original=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Brian P. Trotter=20 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: Need Apache and ddclient to start at boot I have a fresh install of FreeBSD 4.5 on my server. I have installed = Apache and ddclient (Dynamic DNS app) installed. I can manually start = each of these applications, but I can not get them to start = automatically. I placed a copy of the ddclient script in the = /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ directory, but it doesnt start. I have to manually = go to that directory and run that file to start it. As far as Apache, I created a file called httpdstart.sh, used an = editor and placed: /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl start inside the file, and also put it in the rc.d directory. It doesnt = start either, but I assume that is because of something I am doing = wrong. Can someone enlighten me on the proper procedure for doing this? Thanks, Brian T. ------=_NextPart_000_0284_01C20314.51BC7650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Might try
 
chmod +x=20 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/httpdstart.sh
 
ciao,
Dave
----- Original =
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Brian = P.=20 Trotter
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 9:48 = AM
Subject: Need Apache and = ddclient to=20 start at boot

I have a fresh install of FreeBSD 4.5 = on my=20 server. I have installed Apache and ddclient (Dynamic DNS app) = installed. I=20 can manually start each of these applications, but I can not get them = to start=20 automatically. I placed a copy of the ddclient script in the=20 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ directory, but it doesnt start. I have to = manually go to=20 that directory and run that file to start it.
 
As far as Apache, I created a file = called=20 httpdstart.sh, used an editor and placed:
/usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl=20 start
inside the file, and also put it in = the rc.d=20 directory. It doesnt start either, but I assume that is because of = something I=20 am doing wrong.
 
Can someone enlighten me on the = proper procedure=20 for doing this?
 
 
 
Thanks,
Brian = T.
------=_NextPart_000_0284_01C20314.51BC7650-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri May 24 8:36:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from c014.snv.cp.net (h001.c014.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6AFA937B403 for ; Fri, 24 May 2002 08:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (cpmta 28520 invoked from network); 24 May 2002 08:36:55 -0700 Received: from 12.33.76.83 (HELO bigbeat) by smtp.cswebmail.com (209.228.35.75) with SMTP; 24 May 2002 08:36:55 -0700 X-Sent: 24 May 2002 15:36:55 GMT Message-ID: <000501c20338$d6393340$ca0110ac@DEVELOPER.LOCAL> Reply-To: "Kliment Andreev" From: "Kliment Andreev" To: "Free BSD" Subject: ANSI scrolling Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 11:36:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am connecting to my FreeBSD box using SSH and TinyTerm under Win2K. Terminal emulation is set to ANSI. I tried to start BitchX IRC client but I've got some error that my TERM settings does not support scrolling. What should I add in /etc/termcap file? I tried with SCOANSI setting but I got the some error. 10x, Kliment To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri May 24 8:42:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.carolina.rr.com (mail7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A54737B40A for ; Fri, 24 May 2002 08:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chtlt033 ([24.74.25.55]) by mail7.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 24 May 2002 11:41:54 -0400 Message-ID: <013f01c20339$83d3a4e0$b701010a@chtlt033> Reply-To: "Brian P. Trotter" From: "Brian P. Trotter" To: "David Rhodus" , References: <010601c20329$ab788520$b701010a@chtlt033> <028701c20335$d9146e20$1506810a@asgidavid> Subject: Re: Need Apache and ddclient to start at boot Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 11:41:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013C_01C20317.FC771930" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013C_01C20317.FC771930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That worked like a charm. While doing that, I also noticed that the ddclient file did not have a = .sh extension like all the other files in that directory. I renamed it = to ddclient.sh, rebooted the server, and both httpd and ddclient are = auto-starting now. Many thanks for your help. Brian ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Rhodus=20 To: Brian P. Trotter ; freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Need Apache and ddclient to start at boot Might try chmod +x /usr/local/etc/rc.d/httpdstart.sh ciao, Dave ----- Original=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Brian P. Trotter=20 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: Need Apache and ddclient to start at boot I have a fresh install of FreeBSD 4.5 on my server. I have installed = Apache and ddclient (Dynamic DNS app) installed. I can manually start = each of these applications, but I can not get them to start = automatically. I placed a copy of the ddclient script in the = /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ directory, but it doesnt start. I have to manually = go to that directory and run that file to start it. As far as Apache, I created a file called httpdstart.sh, used an = editor and placed: /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl start inside the file, and also put it in the rc.d directory. It doesnt = start either, but I assume that is because of something I am doing = wrong. Can someone enlighten me on the proper procedure for doing this? Thanks, Brian T. ------=_NextPart_000_013C_01C20317.FC771930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That worked like a charm.
 
While doing that, I also noticed that = the ddclient=20 file did not have a .sh extension like all the other files in that = directory. I=20 renamed it to ddclient.sh, rebooted the server, and both httpd and = ddclient are=20 auto-starting now.
 
Many thanks for your help.
 
 
Brian
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David=20 Rhodus
To: Brian P. Trotter ; freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org=20
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 = 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Need Apache and = ddclient to=20 start at boot

Might try
 
chmod +x=20 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/httpdstart.sh
 
ciao,
Dave
----- Original =
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Brian P.=20 Trotter
To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org=20
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 = 9:48=20 AM
Subject: Need Apache and = ddclient to=20 start at boot

I have a fresh install of FreeBSD = 4.5 on my=20 server. I have installed Apache and ddclient (Dynamic DNS app) = installed. I=20 can manually start each of these applications, but I can not get = them to=20 start automatically. I placed a copy of the ddclient script in the=20 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ directory, but it doesnt start. I have to = manually go=20 to that directory and run that file to start it.
 
As far as Apache, I created a file = called=20 httpdstart.sh, used an editor and placed:
/usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl=20 start
inside the file, and also put it in = the rc.d=20 directory. It doesnt start either, but I assume that is because of = something=20 I am doing wrong.
 
Can someone enlighten me on the = proper=20 procedure for doing this?
 
 
 
Thanks,
Brian=20 T.
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Thank you. 7624EmKy5-656oCsa6341LSbO2-150dCTq2028FWWg5-44l43 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri May 24 13:32:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21101.mail.yahoo.com (web21101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85BE437B419 for ; Fri, 24 May 2002 13:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020524203214.30158.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 May 2002 13:32:14 PDT Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 13:32:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinod Subject: setting up batch files To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org whats the best way to execute a series of commands in freebsd?something like a batch file in MS-DOS. suppose i want to execute the two commands, defaultrouter="a.b.c.d" ifconfig_eth0="inet e.f.g.h netmask e.f.g.h" by typing something like 'change' on the terminal window;howdo i go about this? note these two commands are set in /etc/rc.conf and i want to execute the changes through a batch sort of file. Thanks in advance, vinod __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri May 24 14:15: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DD337B414; Fri, 24 May 2002 14:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4OL1ZH40125; Fri, 24 May 2002 14:01:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:01:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Vinod Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setting up batch files In-Reply-To: <20020524203214.30158.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 24 May 2002, Vinod wrote: > whats the best way to execute a series of commands in > freebsd?something like a batch file in MS-DOS. > > suppose i want to execute the two commands, > defaultrouter="a.b.c.d" > ifconfig_eth0="inet e.f.g.h netmask e.f.g.h" > by typing something like 'change' on the terminal > window;howdo i go about this? > note these two commands are set in /etc/rc.conf and i > want to execute the changes through a batch sort of > file. > Thanks in advance, > vinod > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! 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------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C201CE.78EB4310-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 25 10:25:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web10002.mail.yahoo.com (web10002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C05E37B403 for ; Sat, 25 May 2002 10:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020525172525.19123.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.81.65.142] by web10002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 May 2002 10:25:25 PDT Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 10:25:25 -0700 (PDT) From: M P Magesh Subject: procedure to contribute to FreeBSD To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi , I am interested to take up some bug fixing work in FreeBSD . Can anyone enlighten the procedure that's needed for this ? Your help is very much appreciated . Regards Magesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 25 20: 5:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E5F37B40F for ; Sat, 25 May 2002 20:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a012.otenet.gr [212.205.215.12]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4Q35BuW014007; Sun, 26 May 2002 06:05:12 +0300 (EEST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4Q35BLs012354; Sun, 26 May 2002 06:05:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4Q359BZ012353; Sun, 26 May 2002 06:05:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 06:05:08 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: M P Magesh Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: procedure to contribute to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20020526030507.GB12152@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020525172525.19123.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020525172525.19123.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2002-05-25 10:25, M P Magesh wrote: > Hi , > > I am interested to take up some bug fixing work in > FreeBSD . > Can anyone enlighten the procedure that's needed for > this ? Sure. There is a nice article that describes a few of the ways you can start contributing to FreeBSD. Find it at: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing/ Cheers, --=20 Giorgos Keramidas - http://www.FreeBSD.org keramida@FreeBSD.org - The Power to Serve --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE88FDj1g+UGjGGA7YRAtQGAJ0Qgm4guwq8duZpy4b/haWS478ZOQCdHY8V OdazFT+J5Tps0S9oPzJZEZE= =YCSD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat May 25 21:11:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [216.187.106.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56DC37B403; Sat, 25 May 2002 21:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by m20.unixathome.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g4Q4A4c77287; Sun, 26 May 2002 00:10:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 00:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200205260410.g4Q4A4c77287@m20.unixathome.org> From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-05-05 - 2002-05-25 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . No new articles have been posted during this period -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message