From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jun 2 5: 7:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from chat.ru (spb-1-28.dialup.peterlink.ru [195.242.16.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 419DC37B404; Sun, 2 Jun 2002 05:07:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Александр Subject: Деловое предложение Reply-To: makejob@inbox.ru X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 05:07:09 -0700 Message-Id: <20020602120705.419DC37B404@hub.freebsd.org> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Здравствуйте!!! Со вчерашнего дня я являюсь участником проекта The Future. Это новая уникальная система для заработка в сети, которая позволяет получить до 50000 рублей в кратчайшие сроки благодаря новому, нигде не применявшемуся, механизму денежных переводов между участниками пирамиды. Принцип работы системы основан на стандартных MLM-схемах, но с существенными изменениями. По-видимому, это первая компания, которая разгадала причину неэффективности подобных MLM-проектов и создала проект, лишенный чужих недостатков. Оказывается, другие популярные системы (их названия не указываются в связи с соображениями об авторских правах) умалчивают от своих участников о том, что для получения обещанной прибыли необходимо привлечь около 50000 (!!!) человек только по своей ветке, что является абсолютно нереальным. Подробности читайте на моей странице участника (http://makejob.by.ru) под заголовком "В чем же уникальность The Future" и Вы сразу поймете, в чем преимущества The Future. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jun 2 7:50:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from kogut.o2.pl (kogut.o2.pl [212.126.20.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DDD37B404 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2002 07:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [62.233.167.10]) by kogut.o2.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1C52CAAAA for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2002 16:48:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Sender: info@o2.pl From: =?windows-1250?Q?t=B3umaczenie?= To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 16:51:40 +0200 Subject: =?windows-1250?Q?oferta_t=B3umaczenia?= Reply-To: info@o2.pl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020602144805.7C1C52CAAAA@kogut.o2.pl> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Szanowni Paсstwo, Chciaіbym Paсstwu zaproponowaж usіugк tіumaczenia z zakresu jкzyka niemieckiego i angielskiego. 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Mon, 3 Jun 2002 02:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ts5-a227.Moscow.dial.rol.ru ([195.239.7.227]:32265 "HELO Sender" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "cher78@rol.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by gnome06.sovam.com with SMTP id ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:17:52 +0400 From: Sales To: "" <> Subject: ьЖЖЕЛФЙЧОПЕ ХРТБЧМЕОЙЕ ЖЙОБОУПЧЩНЙ ТЕУХТУБНЙ ЛПНРБОЙЙ X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:15:48 +0400 Message-Id: <20020603091753Z2717926-17150+6705@gnome06.sovam.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org вЙЪОЕУ-УЕНЙОБТ "ьЖЖЕЛФЙЧОПЕ ХРТБЧМЕОЙЕ ЖЙОБОУПЧЩНЙ ТЕУХТУБНЙ ЛПНРБОЙЙ" 10-11 ЙАОС 2002 ЗПДБ йЪ-ЪБ ПФУХФУФЧЙС ФПЮОПЗП Й УЙУФЕНБФЙЮЕУЛПЗП ЪОБОЙС П УЧПЙИ ЖЙОБОУБИ ЕЦЕЗПДОП ЛПНРБОЙС ФЕТСЕФ ДП РСФПК ЮБУФЙ УЧПЕЗП ДПИПДБ. рТЕДМБЗБЕНЩК УЕНЙОБТ РПУЧСЭЕО УМЕДХАЭЙН ЧПРТПУБН: ЛБЛ УПЪДБФШ Й ОБМБДЙФШ РПМОХА УЙУФЕНХ ВАДЦЕФЙТПЧБОЙС Ч ЛПНРБОЙЙ; 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 4:53:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B42437B408 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 04:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 66-44-89-149.s530.tnt1.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.89.149] helo=portobubba.erols.com) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 17EqOe-0003gH-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:53:13 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020603074303.00a75d80@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: bearpiss@pop.erols.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 07:50:49 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bubba Subject: I am afraid that I must say adieux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am afraid that I must say adieux due to the large amount of spam in this list. The french named restaurant "for sale" message did it for me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 6: 9:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21503.mail.yahoo.com (web21503.mail.yahoo.com [66.163.169.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE19F37B403 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 06:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020603130935.75398.qmail@web21503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.136.109.158] by web21503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 06:09:35 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 06:09:35 -0700 (PDT) From: martin Subject: Re: I am afraid that I must say adieux To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020603074303.00a75d80@pop.erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1412601971-1023109775=:75151" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-1412601971-1023109775=:75151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don`t blame you. I probably will as well. It`s absurd to have to get a hundred plus e-mails a day to stay 'up' on FreeBSD. To reduce the amount of mail only needs a few minor changes. 1) Make it a 'only members can post' list 2) Remind people to check the FAQ before posting 3) Remind people to search the archive before posting (the majority of threads here have been answered before, often many times). Unfortuately, there seems to be absolutely no oversight by the list maintainer. This is making it annoying for some and unusable for others. Bubba wrote: I am afraid that I must say adieux due to the large amount of spam in this list. The french named restaurant "for sale" message did it for me. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup --0-1412601971-1023109775=:75151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I don`t blame you.  I probably will as well. 

It`s absurd to have to get a hundred plus e-mails a day to stay   'up'  on FreeBSD.

To reduce the amount of mail only needs a few minor changes.

1)   Make it a 'only members can post' list

2)   Remind people to check the FAQ before posting

3)   Remind people to search the archive before posting (the majority of threads here have been answered before, often many times).

 

Unfortuately, there seems to be absolutely no oversight by the list maintainer.  This is making it annoying for some and unusable for others.

 

  Bubba <tnibbe@erols.com> wrote:

I am afraid that I must say adieux due to the large amount of spam in this
list.
The french named restaurant "for sale" message did it for me.


Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup --0-1412601971-1023109775=:75151-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 9:13:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from m-net.arbornet.org (m-net.arbornet.org [209.142.209.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708C337B404 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 09:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (polytarp@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.11.1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g53FkIa58962; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 11:46:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from polytarp@m-net.arbornet.org) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 11:46:18 -0400 (EDT) From: pgreen To: Bubba Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I am afraid that I must say adieux In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020603074303.00a75d80@pop.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, the best way to combat spam is clearly to send some yourself. On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Bubba wrote: > I am afraid that I must say adieux due to the large amount of spam in this > list. > The french named restaurant "for sale" message did it for me. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 12: 7:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21110.mail.yahoo.com (web21110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BDEE837B407 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 12:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020603190730.2048.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 12:07:30 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 12:07:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinod Subject: installing binaries To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org how are binaries installed from a source file a.bin?i cant see something like a makefile Thanks in advance, Vinod __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 13:28:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from box.vrn.ru (box.vrn.ru [195.98.64.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B95E37B408; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [195.98.67.7] (HELO Sender) by box.vrn.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with SMTP id 5165264; Tue, 04 Jun 2002 00:27:57 +0400 From: Почта To: "" <> Subject: Новые технологии Organization: НПФ " Айболит" Reply-To: etgdku@mail.ru X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-u" Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 00:25:14 +0400 Message-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Научно-исследовательская лаборатория "AquActiv" корпорации "Айболит" предлагает новые эффективные, дешевые и экологически чистые технологии по применению электроактивированных водных растворов в различных отраслях хозяйственной деятельности. 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Болотов To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 15: 0: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFF637B405 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 15:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g53LxwH84135; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 14:59:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 14:59:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Vinod Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing binaries In-Reply-To: <20020603190730.2048.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Vinod wrote: > how are binaries installed from a source file a.bin?i > cant see something like a makefile > Thanks in advance, > Vinod > Notice on the CD that each "distro" directory has a script called "install.sh" in it. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 15:29:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21107.mail.yahoo.com (web21107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB36237B405 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 15:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020603222955.65184.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 15:29:55 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 15:29:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinod Subject: ELF binary type "0" not known To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org what does the error: ELF binary type "0" not known mean? this occured when i was installing a linux binary distribution on my freebsd box.i know that this binary works well on freebsd.so is there something i need to install to correct this? Thanks in advance, Vinod __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 16: 1:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.tekrealm.net (dsl081-247-162.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.247.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D02A37B406 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 16:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by freebsd.tekrealm.net (8.12.3/8.12.2) id g53N1JJ0087000; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 16:01:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elitetek@tekrealm.net) Received: from freebsd.tekrealm.net (whoami@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebsd.tekrealm.net (8.12.3/8.12.2av) with ESMTP id g53N1IIN086991; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 16:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elitetek@tekrealm.net) Received: (from elitetek@localhost) by freebsd.tekrealm.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g53N03J1086952; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 16:00:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: freebsd.tekrealm.net: elitetek set sender to elitetek@tekrealm.net using -f Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 16:00:03 -0700 From: Andrew Stuart To: Vinod Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ELF binary type "0" not known Message-ID: <20020603160003.A86827@freebsd.tekrealm.net> Reply-To: elitetek@tekrealm.net References: <20020603222955.65184.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020603222955.65184.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com>; from geekvinod@yahoo.com on Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 03:29:55PM -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org brandelf -t Linux binaryname On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 at 15:29:55 -0700, Vinod wrote: > what does the error: ELF binary type "0" not known > mean? > this occured when i was installing a linux binary > distribution on my freebsd box.i know that this binary > works well on freebsd.so is there something i need to > install to correct this? > Thanks in advance, > Vinod > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 16:46:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21110.mail.yahoo.com (web21110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF97337B405 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 16:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020603234617.38002.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 16:46:17 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 16:46:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinod Subject: Re: ELF binary type "0" not known To: elitetek@tekrealm.net Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020603160003.A86827@freebsd.tekrealm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org what does that mean? Vinod --- Andrew Stuart wrote: > brandelf -t Linux binaryname > On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 at 15:29:55 -0700, Vinod wrote: > > what does the error: ELF binary type "0" not known > > mean? > > this occured when i was installing a linux binary > > distribution on my freebsd box.i know that this > binary > > works well on freebsd.so is there something i need > to > > install to correct this? > > Thanks in advance, > > Vinod > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message > > -- > Andrew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 17:22: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21103.mail.yahoo.com (web21103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE65637B406 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020604002153.86732.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:21:53 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:21:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinod Subject: Re: ELF binary type "0" not known To: elitetek@tekrealm.net Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020603160003.A86827@freebsd.tekrealm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i just found this on the web trying to get rid of my ELF binary type "0" not known error. "First make sure the Linux module is loaded, you can do this via kldstat: helix@subedei (~)% kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 7 0xc0100000 3155f8 kernel 2 1 0xc1174000 8000 linprocfs.ko 3 1 0xc117d000 13000 linux.ko That last module is what you need. If it's there, the next step that you may have to take is running brandelf on it, which hardcodes an ABI to use in the file should one not be detected: # brandelf -t Linux (filename) It should work now. " But my problem is on doing kldstat,i dont have linux.ko.and so it doesnt seem to work for me.so what's to be done? Thanks in advance, Vinod --- Andrew Stuart wrote: > brandelf -t Linux binaryname > On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 at 15:29:55 -0700, Vinod wrote: > > what does the error: ELF binary type "0" not known > > mean? > > this occured when i was installing a linux binary > > distribution on my freebsd box.i know that this > binary > > works well on freebsd.so is there something i need > to > > install to correct this? > > Thanks in advance, > > Vinod > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message > > -- > Andrew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 17:38:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21110.mail.yahoo.com (web21110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3477737B401 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020604003811.43471.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2002 17:38:11 PDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:38:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinod Subject: ELF binary type "0" not known solved To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org this is following an earlier post about an ELF error.i finally managed to solve it as i found i needed to enable linux compatibility.so did that.now only problem is that after my linux-realplayer is installed,instead of normal fonts on my buttons(like ok,cancel),i just see small squares.i think its some font problem.any ideas? Thanks, Vinod __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jun 3 17:57:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.tekrealm.net (dsl081-247-162.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.247.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855D637B401 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by freebsd.tekrealm.net (8.12.3/8.12.2) id g540vJM9088665; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elitetek@tekrealm.net) Received: from freebsd.tekrealm.net (whoami@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebsd.tekrealm.net (8.12.3/8.12.2av) with ESMTP id g540vIIN088652; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:57:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elitetek@tekrealm.net) Received: (from elitetek@localhost) by freebsd.tekrealm.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g540u3jO088586; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:56:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: freebsd.tekrealm.net: elitetek set sender to elitetek@tekrealm.net using -f Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 17:56:03 -0700 From: Andrew Stuart To: Vinod Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ELF binary type "0" not known Message-ID: <20020603175603.A88568@freebsd.tekrealm.net> Reply-To: elitetek@tekrealm.net References: <20020603160003.A86827@freebsd.tekrealm.net> <20020604002153.86732.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020604002153.86732.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com>; from geekvinod@yahoo.com on Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 05:21:53PM -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org do you have linux_enable="YES" in your rc.conf, and do you have /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base installed? pkg_info | grep linux will tell you. you can su to root, and type linux to load the linux support, and then you can try running your program again. On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 at 17:21:53 -0700, Vinod wrote: > > i just found this on the web trying to get rid of my > ELF binary type "0" not known error. > "First make sure the Linux module is loaded, you can > do this via kldstat: > > helix@subedei (~)% kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 7 0xc0100000 3155f8 kernel > 2 1 0xc1174000 8000 linprocfs.ko > 3 1 0xc117d000 13000 linux.ko > > > That last module is what you need. If it's there, the > next step that you may have to take is running > brandelf on it, which hardcodes an ABI to use in the > file should one not be detected: > > # brandelf -t Linux (filename) > > > It should work now. > " > > But my problem is on doing kldstat,i dont have > linux.ko.and so it doesnt seem to work for me.so > what's to be done? > Thanks in advance, > Vinod > --- Andrew Stuart wrote: > > brandelf -t Linux binaryname > > On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 at 15:29:55 -0700, Vinod wrote: > > > what does the error: ELF binary type "0" not known > > > mean? > > > this occured when i was installing a linux binary > > > distribution on my freebsd box.i know that this > > binary > > > works well on freebsd.so is there something i need > > to > > > install to correct this? > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Vinod > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > > the message > > > > -- > > Andrew > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > > the message > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 4 5: 4:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web01.arlingtonnetworks.com (w012.z064003037.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [64.3.37.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D7937B404 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 05:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from . 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Well , this is probably quite a valid topic for this list, in terms of newbie-spam-awareness. IMHO if you think this list receives a large amount of spam, then you haven't been hanging around mailing lists / newsgroups nearly enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 4 6:44:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from m-net.arbornet.org (m-net.arbornet.org [209.142.209.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE5B37B407 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 06:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (polytarp@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.11.1/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g54DKxH66951; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:20:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from polytarp@m-net.arbornet.org) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:20:58 -0400 (EDT) From: pgreen To: Bruce Harding Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I am afraid that I must say adieux In-Reply-To: <3CFCBD05.3010301@inspire.net.nz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I didn't say it didn't receive a lot of spam, just that people already know that, and don't need you telling them so. On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Bruce Harding wrote: > pgreen wrote: > > Yes, the best way to combat spam is clearly to send some yourself. > > > Well , this is probably quite a valid topic for this list, in terms of > newbie-spam-awareness. IMHO if you think this list receives a large > amount of spam, then you haven't been hanging around mailing lists / > newsgroups nearly enough. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 4 9:24: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www.omicnet.com (ip-208-181-72-171.adsl.radiant.net [208.181.72.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BC437B400 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inspector2 (130-94-160-46-dsl.hevanet.com [130.94.160.46]) by www.omicnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id JAA12872; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:23:59 -0700 From: inspector.us@omicnet.com To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, Bubba Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 09:23:27 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Organization: OMIC Portland In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020603074303.00a75d80@pop.erols.com> Message-Id: Subject: Re: I am afraid that I must say adieux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Opera 6.01 build 1041 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 6/3/2002 4:50:49 AM, Bubba wrote: >I am afraid that I must say adieux due to the large amount of spam in this >list. >The french named restaurant "for sale" message did it for me. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > Isn't this list for discussion re: FreeBSD? Suck it up! Best Regards, Joshua Lokken OMIC Portland Branch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 4 9:48:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2675237B405 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b228.otenet.gr [212.205.244.236]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g54GmGd2029012 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 19:48:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g54CKlVX028096 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:20:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g54CKlmm028095; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:20:47 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 15:20:47 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Mario Schmidt Cc: Sue Blake , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Screenshot Message-ID: <20020604122047.GE24499@hades.hell.gr> References: <1022880554.7654.5.camel@client1.freebsd.linux-site.net> <20020601080012.O5356@welearn.com.au> <1022883384.19035.4.camel@client1.freebsd.linux-site.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1022883384.19035.4.camel@client1.freebsd.linux-site.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-06-01 01:16 +0300, Mario Schmidt wrote: > Thank you Sue, > > # xwd -root > dump; xpaint dump > > really do it for me :) > > if i would know how to convert those binary dump into gif on a > command line rather than using xpaint, it would be a perfect > solution! There's always graphics/netpbm. This is a set of command line tools that can be used to convert/resize/rotate or do other stuff on images. You'll be glad to find that it includes a utility called xwdtopnm, and a host of conversion tools that can read a *.pnm file and convert it to other formats. One of them is called ppmtogif :) You can pipe and stick these tools together, with commands like: xwdw -root | xwdtopnm | ppmtogif > screen.gif - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 4 21:25:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pobox.inspire.net.nz (pobox.inspire.net.nz [203.79.89.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD5F37B403 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inspire.net.nz (ipnet-162.inspire.net.nz [203.79.88.162]) by pobox.inspire.net.nz (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g554NdX20442; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 16:23:40 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <3CFD928F.90302@inspire.net.nz> Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 16:24:47 +1200 From: Bruce Harding User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0rc3) Gecko/20020523 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgreen Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, Bubba Subject: Re: I am afraid that I must say adieux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org pgreen wrote: > I didn't say it didn't receive a lot of spam, just that people already > know that, and don't need you telling them so. > My Apologies. I should have restructured my reply so it read : pgreen wrote: >Yes, the best way to combat spam is clearly to send some yourself. Well , this is probably quite a valid topic for this list, in terms of newbie-spam-awareness. Bubba wrote: > I am afraid that I must say adieux due to the large amount of spam in > this list. IMHO if you think this list receives a large amount of spam, then you haven't been hanging around mailing lists / newsgroups nearly enough. 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Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020605202343.50789.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 13:23:43 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:23:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinod Subject: x-server version To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org whats the best way to find out your x11-server version?i cant make out if mine is an 4.2.0_1 or 4.2.0_2. 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Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jun 5 16: 3: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nucleus.com (mail.nucleus.com [207.34.93.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2F037B404 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 16:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TCOOPER (unverified [205.206.131.190]) by mail.nucleus.com (Vircom SMTPRS 1.2.222) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:02:48 -0600 Message-ID: <001601c20ce5$538822b0$be83cecd@TCOOPER> From: "Grant Cooper" To: Subject: newbie-can't install ports Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:04:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C20CB3.00309B60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C20CB3.00309B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just tried to install a shell but can't install it. After reading the = documentation I have 2 questions. From default install 4.5 I was asked to install 100 megs worth of ports. = I did this. when I go to the /user/ports/ I see a bunch of files. Are these the = files I compile to install the software? Or do I have to be connected to = the internet to ftp the files because it keeps on getting the error = message, "Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this port manually = into /usr/ports/distfiles/" Second question, Is a script installed by default? ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C20CB3.00309B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just tried to install a shell but = can't install=20 it. After reading the documentation I have 2 questions.
 
From default install 4.5 I was asked to = install 100=20 megs worth of ports. I did this.
 
when I go to the /user/ports/ I see a = bunch of=20 files. Are these the files I compile to install the software? Or do I = have to be=20 connected to the internet to ftp the files because it keeps on getting = the error=20 message, "Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this port manually = into=20 /usr/ports/distfiles/"
 
Second question, Is a script = installed by=20 default?
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C20CB3.00309B60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jun 5 16:37:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.samuelstn.dhs.org (h24-64-81-248.cg.shawcable.net [24.64.81.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDC9A37B403 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 16:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 90078 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2002 23:37:01 -0000 Received: from firewall (HELO SAMCHOW1.ca.nortel.com) (192.168.1.1) by homeserver with SMTP; 5 Jun 2002 23:37:01 -0000 Message-ID: <008f01c20cea$5ede4220$2784412f@ca.nortel.com> From: "Samuel Chow" To: "Grant Cooper" Cc: References: <001601c20ce5$538822b0$be83cecd@TCOOPER> Subject: Re: newbie-can't install ports Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:40:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > when I go to the /user/ports/ I see a bunch of files. Are these > the files I compile to install the software? Or do I have to be > connected to the internet to ftp the files because it keeps on > getting the error message, "Couldn't fetch it - please try to > retrieve this port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/" The files you saw are just Makefiles, more like instructions to the computer on how to compile the port. However, the actual source codes are not there. I believe they are on the CD set disc 3 and 4 (someone correct me, I don't have the CD). If you don't have the CD like me, then yes, you have to be connected to the Internet. --- Samuel Chow samuelc@samuelstn.dhs.org This message is displayed using recycled electrons. Segmentation Fault (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jun 5 16:49:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DF337B415 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 16:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Wed, 5 Jun 2002 16:44:56 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A266FAC012C; Wed, 05 Jun 2002 16:44:56 -0700 Received: from (227-51.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.227.51]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Wed, 05 Jun 2002 16:44:56 -0600 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 18:47:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Lute Mullenix X-X-Sender: lute@agnes To: Grant Cooper Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newbie-can't install ports In-Reply-To: <001601c20ce5$538822b0$be83cecd@TCOOPER> Message-ID: <20020605183825.V6536-100000@agnes> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: 227-51.siocpe.cableone.net X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: lute@cableone.net X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: grant.cooper@nucleus.com,freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 227-51.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.227.51] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org on Jun 5, Grant Cooper pondered: > I just tried to install a shell but can't install it. After reading the documentation I have 2 questions. > > >From default install 4.5 I was asked to install 100 megs worth of ports. I did this. > > when I go to the /user/ports/ I see a bunch of files. Are these the files I compile to install the software? Or do I have to be connected to the internet to ftp the files because it keeps on getting the error message, "Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/" > > Second question, Is a script installed by default? > Yes you need to be hooked up to the Internet to use the ports, as far as I know anyway, because they download the source which is then compiled (built) and installed on your system. I have been installing all of my software that way for a couple of months now. If you have a good connection and a relatively fast machine it's quick and painless. However some programs are large and take some time. I have a 766 MHz machine and Mozilla took well over an hour to compile. On the script question, I know some are, but don't know enough about them to give you more of an answer than that. Lute Triple Boot: FreeBSD 4.5 Release Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 Windows ME (Hey, it came with the system) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jun 5 17:54:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailjayb.creighton.edu (MailjayB.creighton.edu [147.134.2.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A02A37B40C for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu (bluejay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.20]) by mailjayb.creighton.edu (8.9.3 (PHNE_18546)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01545; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 19:54:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 19:54:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Wilmes To: Samuel Chow Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newbie-can't install ports In-Reply-To: <008f01c20cea$5ede4220$2784412f@ca.nortel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Samuel Chow wrote: > > > when I go to the /user/ports/ I see a bunch of files. Are these > > the files I compile to install the software? Or do I have to be > > connected to the internet to ftp the files because it keeps on > > getting the error message, "Couldn't fetch it - please try to > > retrieve this port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/" > > The files you saw are just Makefiles, more like > instructions to the computer on how to compile > the port. However, the actual source codes are > not there. I believe they are on the CD set disc 3 > and 4 (someone correct me, I don't have the CD). If > you don't have the CD like me, then yes, you have to > be connected to the Internet. > I thought I might clarify this a little. Not every FreeBSD CD is the same. Some have the source code (in the form of .tgz or .tar.gz), and some don't. Here's a little explanation from the FreeBSD Handbook: "The FreeBSD Project's official CDROM images no longer include distfiles. They take up a lot of room that is better used by precompiled packages. CDROM products such as the FreeBSD PowerPak do include distfiles, and you can order these sets from a vendor such as the FreeBSD Mall." --snip-- "Place your FreeBSD CDROM in the drive. Mount it on /cdrom. (If you use a different mount point, the install will not work.) To begin, change to the directory for the port you want to install: # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof Once inside the lsof directory, you will see the port skeleton. The next step is to compile (also called build) the port. This is done by simply typing make at the prompt. Once you have done so, you should see something like this: # make >> lsof_4.57D.freebsd.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. >> Attempting to fetch from file:/cdrom/ports/distfiles/. ===> Extracting for lsof-4.57 ... [extraction output snipped] ... >> Checksum OK for lsof_4.57D.freebsd.tar.gz. ===> Patching for lsof-4.57 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for lsof-4.57 ===> Configuring for lsof-4.57 ... [configure output snipped] ... ===> Building for lsof-4.57 ... [compilation output snipped] ... # Take notice that once the compile is complete you are returned to your prompt. The next step is to install the port. In order to install it, you simply need to tack one word onto the make command, and that word is install: # make install ===> Installing for lsof-4.57 ... [installation output snipped] ... ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Compressing manual pages for lsof-4.57 ===> Registering installation for lsof-4.57 ===> SECURITY NOTE: This port has installed the following binaries which execute with increased privileges. # Once you are returned to your prompt, you should be able to run the application you just installed." --end of cut-and-paste from Handbook--- An alternative method for those with second-hand access to the Internet (but not on the computer in question), is to download the desired .tgz files from your favorite FreeBSD ftp mirror onto a disk, copy the files from the disk into your computer's /usr/ports/distfiles directory, and then run "make install" from /usr/ports/applicationdir as usual. It's a real pain when you run into dependency problems with this method, but it works well for small programs with no missing dependencies. And to quickly answer another question you alluded to, the programs are not installed in /usr/ports. That directory only contains info about how to install the program. The binary files themselves are installed in /usr/local/bin (unless you specify otherwise), the man pages for the new programs in /usr/local/man, and so forth. If you haven't already, please read Chapter 4 of the FreeBSD Handbook. You'll be glad you did. Sincerely, Chris Wilmes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jun 5 21:58:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B570E37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 21:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gcooper ([209.107.108.123]) by priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.01 201-253-122-122-101-20011014) with SMTP id <20020606045813.CTNJ21685.priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net@gcooper> for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 22:58:13 -0600 Message-ID: <031b01c20d1e$50f049e0$7b6c6bd1@ab.hsia.telus.net> From: "Grant Cooper" To: Subject: Installing ports Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 23:52:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0318_01C20CEC.060B1540" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0318_01C20CEC.060B1540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the 4.5 cd with all the packages(CD 3). I read a previous e-mail = saying ports were forgotten in version 4.5? I follow the instructions, but I am confused with "Mount it on /cdrom". = I Man Mount and look up what it means and getting the cd9660: = /dev/acd0c: Device busy after I mounted so I assumed I am doing it = right. But how do I check this? When I enter the mount command do I have = to be in a specific directory? It is still trying to FTP. I then went to the CD and checked if I could now see the structure and I = could. I then preceded and went to the port and did a pkg_add . = The game tank appeared. But I still would like to know what I am doing = wrong? http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ports-using.html ------=_NextPart_000_0318_01C20CEC.060B1540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have the 4.5 cd with all the = packages(CD 3). I=20 read a previous e-mail saying ports were forgotten in version = 4.5?
 
I follow the instructions, but I am = confused with=20 "Mount it on /cdrom". I Man Mount and look up what it means and = getting the=20 cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Device busy after I mounted so I assumed I am doing = it=20 right. But how do I check this? When I enter the mount command do I have = to be=20 in a specific directory? It is still trying to = FTP.
 
I = then went to the=20 CD and checked if I could now see the structure and I could. I then = preceded and=20 went to the port and did a pkg_add <port>. The game tank appeared. = But I=20 still would like to know what I am doing wrong?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0318_01C20CEC.060B1540-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jun 5 22:36:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from arcor.de (ACB8ED1D.ipt.aol.com [172.184.237.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFCED37B408 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 22:35:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "phoengeist38259@arcor.de" To: Subject: Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Stцrung! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 07:36:04 +0200 Reply-To: "phoengeist38259@arcor.de" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020606053558.DFCED37B408@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Entschuldigen Sie bitte die Stцrung! Mir ist etwas zu Ohren gekommen. Eine relativ aussergewцhnliche Gerьchtekьche, aus der man mir ein schwerverdauliches Sьppchen vorgesetzt hat, ist der Grund meiner Mail. Unappetitlich ist gar kein Ausdruck! Ist es mцglich auf funktechnischem Wege(in welchen Frequenzbereichen?) jemanden zu beeinflussen oder zu manipulieren? Oder sogar zu schikanieren und terrorisieren? Unter dem Motto:"Einen am Sender?Nich ganz alleine? Kleine Mannim Ohr?Falsche Wellenlдnge?Bohnen in den Ohren? Auf den Zahn gefьhlt(Amalgam)?Mal unverbindlich reinhцren? Der Pullacher Wanzentanz? Ist das Spinnerei?Das geht doch gar nicht,oder? Und wenn wie sieht das ethisch moralisch aus? Zur technischen Seite der Sache gibt es zwar Berichte und Webseiten: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. ,aber,das kann doch nicht sein,das soetwas gemacht wird,oder? Eine Menschenrechtsverletzung sonder gleichen!?! Ist es mцglich,durch Prдparation,der Ohren und im Zusammenspiel mit eventuell vorhandenem Zahnersatz? Mit relativ einfacher Funktechnik?? In diesem Land?Hier und heute??? Unter welchen Motiven? Wo ist eigentlich die Abteilung 5 des BND und des Verfassungsschutzes? Kann es sein,daЯ es Leute gibt,die dem BND/Verfassungsschutz,auf funktechnischem Wege permanent einen Situationsbericht abliefern,ohne es selbst zu merken,im Kindesalter machbar gemacht?? Werden durch solche inoffiziellen Mitarbeiter,beim BND und Verfassungsschutz,nach Stasimanier, Informationen von und ьber,rein theoretisch, jeden Bundesbьrger,gesammelt? Gibt es dann noch ein Recht auf Privatsphere? Wer kontrolliert eigentlich den BND,MAD und Verfassungsschutz auf Unterwanderung??? In der Mail geht es mir eigentlich um die Frage,ob es kriminellen Elementen, aus dem Motiv der Bereicherung,oder Gruppierungen aus ideologischen Motiven, mцglich ist ,sich Wissen und Technik anzueignen,die zu anderen Zeiten, aus anderen Motiven(Westfernsehen?),entwickelt wurde. Und stellt der technische Wissensstand, der der Allgemeinheit bekannt ist wirklich das Ende der Fahnenstange dar? Ist es denn nicht kriminellen Elementen genauso mцglich, ich sage das jetzt mal verharmlost und verniedlichend, einzelne Personen oder Gruppen mit relativ einfachen Mitteln, aus welchen Motiven auch immer, auszuspionieren? Und stellt diese "Ausspioniererei" nicht einen erheblichen Eingriff in die Privatsphдre dar? Ist es mцglich einzelne Personen oder Gruppen, eine Akzeptans einer gewissen Цffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), die z.B. mit Hilfe von Internetseiten,wie zum Beispiel dem "Pranger"geschaffen werden kцnnte, mal vorausgestzt,zu terroriesieren und oder zu schikanieren, und das in aller (suggerierten)Цffentlichkeit?Haben die Leute die da am Pranger, oder auf irgendeiner anderen Seite verunglimpft,oder gar Verleumdet werden, eigentlich eine Chance zur Gegenцffentlichkeit?Ist das nicht Rufmord? Vor einigen Jahren bin ich per Zufall auf die Seite "Der Pranger" gestoЯen, damals lief das noch nicht unter dem Deckmantel der Partnervermittlung. Kцnnen sich einzelne Personen,oder Interessengemeinschaften, aus reinem Selbstzweck,solcher Seiten bedienen, um unter dem Deckmantel einer fragwьrdigen Zivilkourage, durch anzetteln irgendwelcher Hetzkampagnen,eigene, ganz persцhnliche Interessen durchsetzen? Kцnnen solche Seiten zur Koordination von kriminellen machenschaften dienen? Die Frage,ist es Mцglichkeit oder Unmцglichkeit,technisch und gesellschaftlich, einzelne Personen,oder auch Gruppierungen,aus einer kriminellen/ideologischen Energei heraus,zu manipulieren oder zu beeinflussen,terrorisieren oder zu schickanieren,und zwar gezielt. Zielgruppenmanipulation durch Massenmedien sind alltдgliche Manipulation, der mansich,mehr oder weniger,entziehen kann. Wird das Recht auf Privatsphдre,schleichend,tiefenpsychologisch, durch Sendungen,wie,zum Beispiel "Big brother",untergraben? Sollte bei einem der Angemailten ein gewisser Wissensstand zum Thema vorhanden sein, wдre ich ьber Hinweise zum Thema froh. Auf der Suche nach Antworten auf meine Fragen maile ich verschiedene Adressen aus dem Internet an, und hoffe aufkonstruktive Antworten und Kritiken. Ьber einen Besuch auf der Seite wьrde ich mich freuen. Sollten Sie von mir mehrfach angeschrieben worden sein,so bitte ich Sie,mir dies zu entschuldigen, das war nicht beabsichtigt. Der Grund fьr meine Anonymitдt ist die Tatsache, daЯ bei derlei Fragenstellerei, verstдndlicherweise,schnell der Ruf nach der Psychatrie laut wird. Was auch Methode hat(ist). Sollten Sie die Mail als Belдstigung empfinden, mцchte ich mich hiermit dafьr entschuldigen! Big brother is watching you? Excuse please the disturbance! Me something came to ears. A relatively unusual rumor kitchen, from which one put forward to me a heavydigestible soup, is the reason of my Mail. Unappetizing is no printout! Is it possible on radio Wege(in for which frequency ranges?) to influence or manipulate someone? Terrorize or to even chicane and? Under the Motto:"Einen at the Sender?Nich quite alone? Small Mannim Ohr?Fal Wellenlaenge?Bohnen in the ears? On the tooth clean-hear gefuehlt(Amalgam)?Mal witthout obligation? The Pullacher bug wanzentanz? Isn't the Spinnerei?Das goes nevertheless at all, or? And if as looks ethicalally morally? For the technical page of the thing there is to report and web page: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. but, that cannot be nevertheless, which is made soetwas, or? A violation of human rights resemble special!?! Is it possible, by preparation, the ears and in interaction with possibly available artificial dentures? With relatively simple radio engineering?? In this Land?Hier and today??? Under which motives? Where is the department actually 5 of the BND and the protection of the constitution? Can it be that there are people, which deliver the Federal Intelligence Service/protection of the constitution, on radio way permanently a situation report, without noticing it, in the infancy feasiblly made? By such unofficial coworkers, with the BND and protection of the constitution, after Stasimanier, is information collected of and over,purely theoretically, each Federal citizen? Is there then still another right to Privatsphere? Who actually checks the BND, WAD and protection of the constitution for infiltration??? Into the Mail actually concerns it to me the question whether it criminal items, from which motive of enriching, or groupings from ideological motives is possible, to acquire itself knowledge and technique which were developed at other times, from other Motiven(Westfernsehen?).And does the technical knowledge status place, to that the public admits is really the end of the flag bar? Is it not to criminal items just as possible, I legend that now times played down and does nice-end, individual persons or groups with relatively simple means, to spy from whatever motives always? And doesn't this " Ausspioniererei " represent a substantial intervention into the privatsphaere? It is possible individual persons or groups, one acceptance to of a certain Oeffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), e.g. by Internet pages, how for example the " Pranger"geschaffen could become, times vorausgestzt, to terroriesieren and or chicane, and in everything (the people suggerierten)Oeffentlichkeit?Haben there at the Pranger, or on any other page to be reviled, or slandered, actually a chance to the Gegenoeffentlichkeit?Ist that not character assassination? Some years ago I am by coincidence the page " the Pranger " encountered, at that time ran not yet under the cover of the partner switching.Itself can individual persons, or communities of interests, from pure self purpose, such pages to serve, over under the cover of a doubtful Zivilkourage, through plot any rushing campaigns, own, quite persoehnliche interests to intersperse? Can such pages serve for the co-ordination of criminal machinations? The question, is it possibility or impossibility, technically and socially, individual persons, or also groupings of manipulating or of influencing from an criminal/ideological Energei, terrorizes or to schickanieren, directed.Target group manipulation by mass media are everyday manipulation, from which, more or less, can extract itself. Does the right to privatsphaere, creeping, by transmissions become deep psychological, how, for example " Big undermine brother"? If the Angemailten should be available a certain knowledge status to the topic with one, I would be glad over notes to the topic On the search for responses to my questions maile I different addresses from the Internet on, and hope up-constructional responses and criticisms.Over an attendance on the page wuerde I are pleased.If you should have been written down by me several times, then please I you to excuse me this that was not intended. The reason for my anonymity is the fact that with such Fragenstellerei, understandably, fast after the call the Psychatrie loud becomes. Which also method hat(ist). If you should feel the Mail as annoyance, I would like to apologize hereby for it! Big is watching you? Veuillez excuser le dйrangement! Moi quelque chose concernant des oreilles est venu. Une cuisine de bruit relativement inhabituelle, dont on m'a placй un Sueppchen schwerverdauliches devant, est la raison de mes Mail.Aucune expression n'est peu appйtissante! Il est possible sur un Wege(in funktechnischem pour quelles rйponses frйquentielles?) quelqu'un influencer ou manipuler? Ou mкme schikanieren et terroriser? Sous le Motto:"Einen au Sender?Nich tout а fait seulement? Petits Mannim Ohr?Falsche Wellenlaenge?Bohnen dans les oreilles? Sur la dent gefuehlt(Amalgam)?Mal non contraignant reinhoeren? Le Pullacher Wanzentanz? Le Spinnerei?Das n'est-il quand mкme pas du tout va, ou? Et si comme cela paraоt йthiquement moralement? Au cфtй technique de la chose, il y a certes des rapports et des Webseiten: Totalitaer,de - Die Waffe gegen die Kritik http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/Tempelhof/ http://jya.com/haarp.htm http://www.zeitenschrift.at/magazin/zs_24_15/1_mikrowaffen.htm http://www.bse-plus.de/d/doc/lbrief/lbmincontr.htm http://home.nexgo.de/kraven/bigb/big3.html http://w3.nrl.navy.mil/projects/haarp/index.html http://cryptome.org/ http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm http://www.trufax.org/menu/mind.html http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html http://mindcontrolforum.com/ http://www.trufax.org/menu/elect.html usw. usw. usw. toutefois qui ne peut quand mкme pas кtre qui on fait soetwas, ou? Une violation des droits de l'homme sйparer ressembler!?! Il est possible, par la prйparation, des oreilles et dans l'effet avec la prothиse dentaire йventuellement existante? Avec la technique de radio relativement simple?? Dans ce Land?Hier et aujourd'hui Sous quels motifs? Oщ le dйpartement est-il en rйalitй 5 du BND et de la protection d'constitution? peut il кtre qu'il y a les personnes qui livrent en permanence le BND/Verfassungsschutz, de maniиre funktechnischem un rapport de situation, sans le remarquer le -mкme , dans l'enfance rendu possible?? Par de tels collaborateurs officieux, avec le BND et la protection d'constitution, aprиs maniиre, des informations sont-elles rassemblйes et plus de, purement thйoriquement, chaque citoyen allemand? Il y a alors encore un droit а des Privatsphere? Qui contrфle en rйalitй le BND, mad et protection d'constitution sur une infiltration??? Il s'agit en rйalitй dans le Mail me la question de savoir si lui йlйments criminels, dont le motif de l'enrichissement, ou de groupements des motifs idйologiques, possible de s'acquйrir le savoir et la technique qui а d'autres temps, est autre MotivenEt place-t-il le savoir technique dont le public vraiment la fin la barre de drapeau a connaissance ? Il n'est pas donc exactement la mкme chose possible pour des йlйments criminels, moi cela maintenant fois verharmlost et minimisant une lйgende, personnes ou groupes particuliers avec des moyens relativement simples, de quels motifs aussi toujours, auszuspionieren?(Westfernsehen?), a йtй dйveloppй. Et ce "Ausspioniererei" ne reprйsente-t-il pas une intervention considйrable dans la vie privйe? Il est possible personnes ou groupes particuliers, pour certain Oeffentlichkeit(suggeriert?), celui p. ex. а l'aide des cфtйs Internet, comme par exemple "le Pranger"geschaffen pourrait, fois vorausgestzt schikanieren terroriesieren et ou , et qui toute (suggerierten)Oeffentlichkeit?Haben les personnes ceux lа, ou d'un autre cфtй verunglimpft, ou on ne pas calomnie, en rйalitй une chance au Gegenoeffentlichkeit?Ist qui meurtre d'appel? Il y a quelques annйes, je ne suis pas encore par hasard sur le cфtй "celui" poussй, fonctionnais alors cela sous la couche de pont de l'entremise partenaire. Des personnes particuliиres, ou des communautйs d'intйrкts le peuventelles, d'un autobut pur, de tels cфtйs servent, sous la couche de pont d'un Zivilkourage douteux, tracent plus de des campagnes de prйcipitation, propres intйrкts tout а fait persoehnliche entremкlent? De tels cфtйs peuvent-ils servir а la coordination des manoeuvres criminelles? Question, est lui possibilitй ou impossibilitй de manipuler ou d'influencer techniquement et socialement, particuliиre personnes, ou aussi groupements, criminelle/ponctuel idйologique Energei dehors, , terroriser ou schickanieren, et ce.Une manipulation de groupe cible par des masse-mйdias кtre la manipulation quotidienne qui peut extraire mansich, plus ou moins. Le droit а la vie privйe est-il minй, ramment, tiefenpsychologisch, par des envois, comme, par exemple "des Big brother"? Avec un les Angemailten si un certain savoir devait exister sur le thиme, je serais heureux sur des indications sur le thиme.Sur la recherche des rйponses а mes questions je diffйrentes adresses maile d'Internet dessus, et espиre rйponses et critiques aufkonstruktive. Sur une visite du cфtй http://hometown.aol.de/reinerhohn38259/homepage/index.html> je me rйjouirais. Si vous deviez avoir йtй йcrit а diffйrentes reprises par moi, je vous demande de m'excuser cela qui n'йtait pas envisagй. La raison de mon anonymat est le fait qu'avec telle des Fragenstellerei, l'appel devient ce qui est bien comprйhensible, rapidement bruyant aprиs le Psychatrie. Ce que la mйthode a йgalement (ist). Si vous deviez ressentir les Mail comme un ennui, je voudrais m'excuser par ceci pour cela! Big brother is watching you? Kцnnte mir jemand bei der korrekten Ьberstzung helfen? Could someone help me with the correct translation? Quelqu'un pourrait-il m'aider lors du Ueberstzung correct? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 0:43:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from athene.akon-ag.de (athene.publity.de [213.61.128.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2B537B40A for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 00:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from warpgondel ([192.168.4.138]) by athene.akon-ag.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with SMTP id JAA22048; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:43:07 +0200 Message-ID: <007201c20d2e$0f3df2d0$8a04a8c0@warpgondel> From: "Oliver Fischer" To: "Vinod" , References: <20020605202343.50789.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: x-server version Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:44:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Shouldn't pkg_info help? Bye Oliver ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vinod" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:23 PM Subject: x-server version > whats the best way to find out your x11-server > version?i cant make out if mine is an 4.2.0_1 or > 4.2.0_2. > > Thanks, > Vinod > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 6:10: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hub.freebsd.org (r-pa048-4b71.tin.it [62.211.247.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2904837B411 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 06:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "transition" Date: gio, 06 giu 2002 15.06.03 To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: M.L.M. Italian System MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20020606130612.2904837B411@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org M.L.M. Italian System "Ti informiamo che questo non и uno spamming ai sensi della legge 675/96. >Se Ti e' arrivata questa lettera, и perchй il tuo indirizzo di posta >elettronica и stato acquisito da fonti pubblicamente consultabili. >Quindi se il presente messaggio puт NON interessarti, >cancellalo senza dover rispondere al mittente. >Il tuo indirizzo ,verrа utilizzato solo una volta; >dopo di che,verrа cancellato. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > IL GENERATORE DI BENESSERE DEL XXI SECOLO > >Intro: >Bene la prima cosa da fare и salvare su disco questa pagina per averla a >portata di mano anche se il tuo PC non и connesso ad Internet, poi copia >tutto in word o in blocco note e stampalo, cosм lo potrai leggere con piщ >attenzione. Purtroppo, su internet ,girano tante proposte per far soldi ma che alla fine risultano solo una perdita di tempo. > >Questo Sistema и diverso da tutti gli altri; non esistono capi ,non esistono vincoli di qualsiasi genere,non и una truffa,e soprattutto non butti via soldi; quindi se non ti fidi leggi le istruzioni con attenzione per valutarlo. Quando le avrai comprese, ti >assicuro che sarа per te IRRESISTIBILE la voglia di partecipare. > >QUESTO и SENZA DUBBIO IL GIORNO Piщ FORTUNATO DELLA TUA VITA!!! >SEI UNO DEI FORTUNATI ITALIANI A RICEVERE QUESTA FAMOSA MLM E-MAIL, DELLA >QUALE TUTTI STANNO PARLANDO, E DELLA QUALE LA TELEVISIONE E TUTTI I >GIORNALI ITALIANI HANNO DEDICATO AMPIO SPAZIO NELLE SCORSE SETTIMANE!!! > FINALMENTE TRADOTTA ANCHE IN ITALIANO PER IL TUO SUCCESSO!!! >UN SISTEMA CHE ANNULLA COMPLETAMENTE TOTOCALCIO, TOTOGOL, LOTTO, ENALOTTO E >LOTTERIE VARIE!!! BASTA GIOCARE E SPRECARE SOLDI INUTILMENTE!!! COMINCIA A VINCERE UNA VOLTA PER TUTTE !!!!! >Proprio cosм!! Si, basta preoccuparsi del lavoro, del quale non se ne puт >piщ, dei soldi, che non sono mai abbastanza, di quella vacanza che VORRESTI >ma и sempre piщ lontana!!! Quindi il mio consiglio и quello di cominciare A TIRARE FUORI I SOGNI DAL CASSETTO!!! Immagina per >un attimo cosa potresti fare, ad esempio potresti ordinare la nuova, >fiammante, Lamborghini Murcielago che ti meriti, oppure recarti alla banca >e pagare una volta per tutte quel mutuo sulla casa o sull'appartamento!!! >Oppure potresti prenderti un paio di mesi di vacanza o crociera in uno di >quei posti esotici dei quali hai sempre sognato, poi ritornato a casa >decidere cosa fare con piщ di un miliardo ancora a tua disposizione!!! Alle >volte la realtа puт sembrare un sogno ma come sai CON I SOGNI NON SI >RISOLVE NULLA!!! Questa и PURA Realtа e succederа anche a te nelle prossime >6 settimane, grazie all'incredibile sistema MLM americano!!! Hai perso I servizi speciali in onda su RAITRE, Canale 5 e altre emittenti >televisive locali riguardo questo incredibile sistema americano??? Non >importa, perchй questa и la famosa e-mail della quale tutti parlano sulle >reti televisive di tutto il mondo, non solo italiane. Dovuto alla ormai >crescente popolaritа di questa e-mail su Internet, alcune emittenti >televisive italiane hanno dedicato ultimamente degli speciali sul come и >possibile guadagnare con internet, in 6 settimane, e per di piщ >garantito. "Ma come и possibile ASSICURARE che qualcuno vinca davvero??? Il risultato и stato piщ >che sorprendente; perfino per i conduttori, che hanno espresso il loro >desiderio di partecipare subito!!! In tutti gli speciali, non solo si и >evidenziato e provato che il sistema funziona davvero, ma che assicura la vincita >a CHIUNQUE PARTECIPA, e che и stato anche provato che non ci sono leggi in >vigore (in Italia) che impediscono la partecipazione al programma. Creato >negli USA qualche anno fa, e dopo aver generato non si sa quanti nuovi >miliardari in tutto il mondo, e ricevuto l'attenzione di emittenti >televisive e telegiornali in numerosi paesi del mondo, и finalmente >approdato anche in Italia, grazie alla cortese collaborazione di un >italiano residente negli USA, che ha finalmente deciso di tradurre questa >e-mail in italiano, ed estendere l'opportunitа di diventare miliardari >anche a tutti gli italiani che desiderano partecipare!!! > >Quante volte hai tentato la fortuna al Totocalcio??? Totogol??? Enalotto, >lotterie??? Hai fatto fortuna??? NO??? E probabilmente il tutto ti и >costato una gran bella cifra!!! Non preoccuparti: finalmente и arrivato il >tuo momento, si, quello di vincere sul serio, garantito oltre il 200%, >perchй и stato provato che nessuno puт perdere, nessuno!!! Non si puт >perdere per il semplice motivo che ci sono migliaia di nuovi giocatori ogni >giorno che vogliono partecipare, e aspettano che i fortunati che sono in >possesso di questa e-mail (quale sei tu ad esempio), la spediscano anche a >loro. Hai seguito ultimamente gli speciali in onda su RaiTre, Canale 5 e >altre emittenti televisive locali riguardo il Super Sistema MLM >americano??? > > >Se credi che questo sia uno dei tanti scherzi che si ricevono via e-mail, >ti chiedo solo un paio di minuti del tuo tempo invitandoti a leggere questa >lettera: e ti prometto che quando l'avrai terminata la tua vita sarа giа >cambiata!!! Questa и la testimonianza di Claudio Tommasi, l'italiano che ha >finalmente deciso di tradurre la piщ famosa e-mail oggi in circolazione: > >"Chi ti scrive и un italiano, Claudio Tommasi, nato e cresciuto a S. >Michele all'Adige, una cittadina alle porte di Trento, nel nord Italia. Mi >sono sposato e trasferito negli Stati Uniti nel 1994, dopo un corso estivo >al Campus dell'Universitа del nord Colorado, e tuttora vivo con mia moglie >e i miei 2 figli in una bellissima cittadina chiamata Fort Collins, sempre >nel nord Colorado. La ragione per cui ti scrivo и perchй ormai da 5 mesi la >mia vita e quella della mia famiglia и totalmente cambiata. Perchй??? Ho >vinto la bellezza di $ 712.455 dollari, equivalenti a 1.426.862.000 lire >italiane, senza fare assolutamente nulla!!! Quello che и successo a me >succederа a tutti quelli che decideranno di partecipare all'ormai famoso >"MLM American System": E' GARANTITO!!! Perchй и l'unico sistema al mondo >col quale non si puт perdere, и impossibile!!!". La sua testimonianza >continua. > >"Se non hai seguito i programmi TV , non ha importanza perchй avrai bisogno di questa e-mail per partecipare. Senza questa e-mail non potrai entrare nel sistema, >semplicemente perchй hai bisogno di inserire i tuoi dati, affinchй le >persone possano spedirti i soldi direttamente a casa tua, come и successo a >me. Questa и la mia storia: cinque mesi fa ricevetti una e-mail come >questa, in inglese ovviamente, sembrava una di quelle tante che noi >chiamiamo "junk" mail (catene). Era probabilmente la 5-6 volta che ne >ricevevo una simile. Quel giorno (per mia fortuna) decisi di leggerla e >cercare di capire come funzionasse quel sistema. In vita mia non ho mai >creduto nei "soldi facili", forse perchй dopo tutti gli anni e i soldi >spesi all'universitа in Italia, giocando mega-sistemi al Totocalcio, >Totogol, Enalotto, ecc., non ho mai vinto neanche 1000 lire!!! Dopo aver >letto quella e-mail, e facendo un po' di calcoli, pensai che il sistema >aveva un grande potenziale, e che poteva decisamente funzionare. Decisi >cosм di provare, senza dire niente a mia moglie. Feci quello che diceva il >sistema: inserii il mio nome e dati nella e-mail, spedii le 5 lettere alle >persone presenti sulla lista, ognuna contenente le mie informazioni per >partecipare e una banconota da $5 dollari. Pensai: "In fondo, avrei speso >la stessa cifra se stasera avessi portato la mia famiglia al cinema, o se >avessi comprato 2 biglietti della lotteria, dove la percentuale di vincita >и di 1 su 25 milioni!!!". >Dopo neanche 10 giorni cominciai a ricevere "tonnellate" di lettere di >persone che mi richiedevano i 5 report che avevo precedentemente acquistato >per $25 dollari: mia moglie mi chiese cosa stava succedendo. Aprii le >lettere una ad una e cominciai a contare i soldi. Non potevo crederlo: >quello che diceva il sistema era vero, ero entrato nel vortice di un giro >di giocatori americani incalliti!!! >La stessa settimana ci fu uno dei tanti speciali su uno dei telegiornali >nazionali, e parlava di tutti questi nuovi miliardari che avevano fatto >fortuna grazie ad Internet (e-mail) e ad un sistema multilivello semplice >ma efficacissimo: e io ero uno di loro!!! Dopo qualche mese, decisi che >avrei tentato di nuovo (poichй il sistema и senza fine e si basa anche sul >fatto che quasi ogni vincitore rientra nel giro). Ma con l'andare del tempo >pensai a tutti gli amici che avevo lasciato in Italia, compreso la mia >famiglia, e il fatto che non avrebbero mai potuto avere la possibilitа di >partecipare e vincere come avevo fatto io, in quanto non conoscevano la >lingua inglese (lingua ufficiale del sistema). >Cosм decisi di tradurre quella e-mail e di farla circolare in Italia. >Ecco perchй caro amico/a ti ho scritto, affinchй tutti possano avere la >stessa opportunitа che ho avuto io e migliaia di giocatori in tutto il >mondo, di far avverare i loro sogni e finalmente vincere oltre un miliardo >di lire. Se credi di aver bisogno di questo denaro questa и l'opportunitа >della tua vita. Se invece di denaro ne hai anche troppo, per favore invia >questa preziosa e-mail a tutti coloro che la stanno ansiosamente >aspettando, e che sono meno fortunati di te, poichй io non ho nй il tempo >nй gli indirizzi e-mail di tutti quegli italiani che sono nel bisogno. Non >essere egoista, dai la possibilitа a qualcuno di toccare finalmente il >cielo con un dito. Quello che farai per loro, un giorno sarа fatto a te, >credimi. > >Buona fortuna e in bocca al lupo!!! Un caro saluto dagli Stati Uniti. > >Ciao, Claudio Tommasi." > > > >Grazie ad Internet e ad un programma imbattibile che ha giа colto >l'attenzione di alcune reti televisive italiane e straniere (oltre ai >migliaia di servizi dedicati dalle televisioni americane) sveliamo il >segreto: > > >Ecco come funziona. > > >I partecipanti provengono da tutto il mondo, Australia, Canada, >Inghilterra, Germania, Nuova Zelanda ( Paesi che in genere sono di >madrelingua inglese, o lo parlano come seconda lingua), ma il 92% di essi >sono agguerriti americani che solo nel secondo semestre del 2001 ha contato >+ di 928.000 fortunati soltanto ne gli USA. > > > La ragione di questo successo и semplice: con il solo investimento di $ >25 si entra in un giro mondiale , inviando e-mail gratuitamente a tutti >quelli che vogliono partecipare e che sono in trepida attesa di farlo. Si, >perchй la chiave и proprio ricevere questa e-mail (che и stata finalmente >tradotta da un gentile italiano residente negli USA per il beneficio di >tutti i giocatori). > > >Se non si riceve la e-mail non si accede al sistema e si и tagliati fuori. >Sei probabilmente uno dei primi italiani a ricevere questa e-mail, visto >che и stata tradotta soltanto un mese fa. Ci sono milioni di persone in >tutta Italia e in tutto il mondo che sono ansiosi di ricevere questa e-mail >da te. Una volta che inserisci il tuo nome indirizzo e indirizzo e-mail и >fatta, sei nel sistema e ci resterai fino a quando deciderai che ne hai >abbastanza di tutti quei soldi!!! > > >I partecipanti al giorno d'oggi sono stimati attorno ai 25 milioni, e >crescono di giorno in giorno. Poichй bisogna aspettare il proprio turno >prima di rientrare in un nuovo giro ( dalle 5 alla 1 posizione) chi esce >(con un guadagno stimato in media tra 1,5 e 2 miliardi di lire) rientra di >nuovo rispondendo ad un'altra e-mail che ha ricevuto nel frattempo. Il >risultato: un sistema che non ha mai fine, tenuto in piedi dai soliti >giocatori e in piщ da tutti quelli che si uniscono ogni giorno, >incrementando il massiccio scambio di denaro. Un giro di centinaia di >miliardi al giorno, spediti in piccole banconote da $ 5 ciascuna. Un >programma che, GRAZIE AD INTERNET, non ha mai fine, poichй i partecipanti >entrano ed escono continuamente (non contando i nuovi partecipanti che si >uniscono ogni giorno) investendo ogni volta la piccola somma di 25$, e >intascando i miliardi spettanti ad ogni giro!!! Ovviamente si puт uscire >quando si vuole, non c'и nessun obbligo, ma perchй uscire quando si и parte >di un club di miliardari??? Gli USA stimano che almeno 927.900 di quei >928.000 nuovi miliardari sono giа rientrati, centuplicando il numero di >miliardari nei prossimi 6 mesi!!! > > >La differenza tra i vecchi sistemi multilivello e questo и molto semplice: > > >1: L'investimento и decisamente minimo, chiunque puт permetterselo, giovane >o vecchio, studente o impiegato, disoccupato o meno. Per iniziare si puт >anche partecipare in gruppi, se si vuole. > > >2: Nessuna perdita di tempo nel convincere qualcuno a partecipare, poichй >grazie alle recenti trasmissioni televisive ci sono milioni di italiani >pronti a giocare, e aspettano di ricevere questa e-mail da te > > >3: La vincita и rapida: 6 sole settimane per una somma minima che si aggira >fra i 1,5 e 2 MILIARDI di lire!!! Un record, nessun sistema и mai stato >tanto veloce quanto MLM American System!!! > > >4: Non c'и nessuna organizzazione dietro questo semplice ma efficace >sistema. I soli giocatori tengono in piedi l'intero sistema (da oro >"battezzato" MLM American System = sistema multilivello americano e >attualmente dopo essere stato tradotto per l'Italia e integrato con >opportune modifiche e miglioramenti MLM Italian System), che funziona alla >perfezione da 2 anni a questa parte. Non c'и nessuna percentuale da pagare. >I soldi vengono scambiati e spediti direttamente alle case dei singoli >giocatori. Tutti gli altri sistemi esistenti hanno una sede fissa, si >appropriano di una grossa percentuale dei soldi, li maneggiano, e poi >decidono chi deve vincere, per cui nessuna vincita puт essere assicurata. > > >5: MLM и l'unico sistema esistente al mondo che ti permette una vincita >multipla: si vince ogni 6 settimane, fino a quando si decide di ritirarsi >perchй se ne ha abbastanza di tutto quel denaro. > > > >6: L'opportunitа di ricevere informazioni gratis per incrementare e gestire >le proprie vincite. Se decidete di partecipare, riceverete i "5 reports" >dai membri della vostra lista, che contengono informazioni utilissime come >scaricare GRATIS da Internet software elaborati e costosi (valore di >mercato 1.000.000 di lire completamente GRATIS!!!) per gestire ricercare, >scaricare e spedire e-mail a piщ di 10.000.000 di indirizzi (Avalanche, >NetTron, DirectMail, ecc.), piщ tante altre utilissime informazioni sul >come incrementare le vincite con il sistema, completamente GRATIS!!! > > >Questo и il segreto di MLM American System: la vincita и 200% assicurata!!! >Non si puт perdere, и impossibile!!! Come spiegato sullo speciale di >RaiTre, il sistema funziona ogni giorno per milioni di giocatori, non c'и >dubbio. Chi si inserisce ha la certezza matematica di ricevere ALMENO 1,5 - >2 MILIARDI DI LIRE NEL GIRO DI 6 SETTIMANE, perchй riceverai i soldi da >coloro che hanno giа vinto ma desiderano rientrare e raddoppiare, >triplicare, ecc. la loro vincita (NON CONTANDO SULL'INGRESSO DI NUOVI >PARTECIPANTI OGNI GIORNO). Il conduttore della trasmissione di RaiTre: >"seriamente, non ho mai visto niente del genere fino ad oggi!!!" MLM >American System и stato definito il "GENERATORE DI BENESSERE DEL XXI >SECOLO!!!". E tu? Sei pronto ad unirti al club dei miliardari??? Il >principio и quasi simile a quello utopico del "Se ognuno dei 5 miliardi di >persone oggi esistente sulla terra spedisse un dollaro a tutti gli altri >vivremmo in un mondo di miliardari". Il fatto и che non si puт costringere >qualcuno a versare dei soldi ad un altro individuo. Ecco che il concetto di >MLM entra in gioco: ci vuole un club di giocatori intenzionati a scambiarsi >ogni 6 settimane 5 dollari a testa, collezionando 1,5 - 2 miliardi a turno. >Questo и il semplice segreto di un sistema che non ha eguali in tutto il >mondo: MLM American System. Non c'и nessuna organizzazione dietro MLM che >trattiene percentuali come altri sistemi dove il solo che colleziona il >denaro и l'ente che giostra il tutto. MLM и un club di oneste persone >comuni COME TE che hanno tutto l'interesse di tenere in piedi un sistema >che genera benessere per . I soldi contenuti nelle lettere vengono spediti >direttamente alle case dei partecipanti e non raccolti da " anonimi enti" >come in altri sistemi., Come su questa e-mail che sarа la tua lista se >decidi di partecipare ci sono i nominativi di 5 persone comuni come te, >provenienti da tutto il mondo. > > >LE SEGUENTI SONO ISTRUZIONI FONDAMENTALI DI CUI HAI BISOGNO: POICHE' IL > >CONTENUTO DI QUESTA E-MAIL и TROPPO PREZIOSO SE NON LO HAI ANCORA > >FATTO, > >STAMPA UNA COPIA DI QUESTA E-MAIL ADESSO E SALVALA SU UN CD O FLOPPY > >DISK, > >NEL QUALCASOTU ABBIA PROBLEMI CON IL TUO COMPUTER. > > >= = = = COME ORDINARE I 5 "REPORTS" DALLA LISTA CHE SEGUE = = = = > >Che cos'и un report??? Un report non и altro che una serie di informazioni >utilissime su come scaricare assolutamente gratis costosi software da >Internet (che potranno risultare di grande aiuto nella gestione e >spedizione ad alta velocitа di e-mail) gestire patrimoni ecc., >accuratamente tradotti in italiano. > >Per ogni report spedisci 5 euro se sei in Europa se no 5 dollari americani >dal piщ vicino ufficio postale o dalla tua banca. > >Ci sono stati giocatori che, per ragioni sconosciute hanno spedito i >contanti nella valuta del loro paese. Nel caso tu debba spedire a giocatori >stranieri и consigliabile utilizzare il dollaro americano perchй и stato >scelto e adottato sin dall'inizio del sistema, ed ha funzionato alla >perfezione per ormai 2 anni, non possiamo garantire il fatto che, se >spedirai banconote in diverse valute, saranno accettate. I giocatori del >sistema, specialmente stranieri che si aspettano di ricevere dollari >americani, non accetteranno altre valute, perchй non conoscono il cambio >corrente, e probabilmente rispediranno indietro le lettere. > >Per qualsiasi ragione, non spedire MAI moneta, solo banconote, altrimenti >dovrai pagare una tariffa postale maggiore dovuta al peso. > >Per evitare che i soldi spediti vengano intercettati e rubati da 2 anni a >questa parte, si и adottato il sistema di "incartare" la banconota in 2 >fogli di carta formato A4 piegati in 3 come si piegherebbe una semplice >lettera da infilare in una busta normale da lettera. > > >= = IMPORTANTE = = > >Su uno dei 2 fogli, scrivi in stampatello (meglio se stampato al computer) >a caratteri chiari e leggibili, il nome e il numero dei report che stai >ordinando, il tuo indirizzo e-mail, e il tuo nome e indirizzo postale. > >Quindi: per ogni report spedisci una banconota del valore di cinque EURO o >dollari incartata fra 2 fogli di carta formato A4, il nome e numero di >report richiesto, il tuo indirizzo e-mail, il tuo nome e indirizzo postale. > >Se non vuoi far apparire il tuo nome e indirizzo sulla lista (anonimato), >puoi usare una casella postale come indirizzo, e il nome di una compagnia >al posto del tuo nome e cognome (ad esempio: XYZ Servizi, Casella Postale >12345, Roma, Italy). Ricorda di scrivere il tuo indirizzo (mittente) sulla >busta, nel caso in cui ci siano difficoltа postali. > >Quando ordini i report, devi ordinare tutti i 5 report, perchй hai bisogno >di "consegnarli tramite e-mail alle persone che li richiederanno da te, >pagandoti 5 EURO/Dollari per ognuno di essi (anche se sono giа in possesso >di essi, nel caso di giocatori che rientrano, il sistema richiede il >pagamento di 5 EURO/Dollari in cambio di qualcosa). > >Quando ricevi i 5 report in 5 differenti e-mail, salva ogni report su un >floppy disk o CD, affinchи niente vada perso. Se li perdi, non puoi >continuare nel sistema, poichй non hai niente da "consegnare" agli altri >giocatori. > >Il costo totale del tuo investimento и: 5 x 5 Euro/Dollari = 25 Euro o >dollari, una sciocchezza paragonata a quello che riceverai !!! > >Nel giro di pochi giorni riceverai, come detto, le 5 e-mail con i 5 >differenti report in italianmo. Mentre stai aspettando i 5 report (numero >1, 2, 3, 4 e 5), prendi questa e-mail, che hai precedentemente salvato nel >tuo computer, e fai quanto segue: > >1. rimuovi il nome e l'indirizzo della persona accanto al report numero 5. >Questa persona ha finito il suo turno e starа contando i suoi 1,5 - 22 >miliardi di lire; > >2. rimuovi il nome e l'indirizzo della persona accanto al report numero 4 e >spostala (con copia/taglia e incolla) al numero 5; > >3. rimuovi il nome e l'indirizzo della persona accanto al report numero 3 e >spostala (con copia/taglia e incolla) al numero 4; > >4. rimuovi il nome e l'indirizzo della persona accanto al report numero 2 e >spostala (con copia/taglia e incolla) al numero 3; > >5. rimuovi il nome e l'indirizzo della persona accanto al report numero 1 e >spostala (con copia/taglia e incolla) al numero 2; > >6. inserisci il tuo nome e indirizzo accanto al report numero 1. Fatto, ora >sei ufficialmente nel sistema. > >Fai attenzione nel ricopiare tutti gli indirizzi: controlla sempre che >tutti i nomi e gli indirizzi siano scritti in maniera corretta >(specialmente nel caso di giocatori stranieri). > >Dopo ciт, salva la nuova e-mail nel tuo computer, e fai anche una copia e >salvala su un floppy disk o CD. NON FARE ASSOLUTAMENTE ALTRE MODIFICHE. > >Il prossimo passo и quello di spedirle e-mail a tutte le persone che le >stanno ansiosamente aspettando. Dopo le trasmissioni televisive, la >popolaritа di questo sistema и ormai alle stelle, quindi non preoccuparti >di spiegare il sistema ad amici e conoscenti. >Quello che devi fare и spedire questa e-mail, cominciando dalla lista di >amici presente nel tuo Microsoft Outlook Express, o software simile, dove >tieni la lista di indirizzi e-mail dei tuoi amici. Tu puoi spedire quante >e-mail vuoi: il minimo и 5. > >1. Ok, ora vediamo come funziona. Supponiamo che spedisci 20 e-mail a 20 >persone. Pur essendo tutti in attesa di questa e-mail, soltanto 10 di loro >trovano il tempo di ordinare il report numero 1 da te. > >2. Quelle 10 persone spediscono a loro volta 20 e-mail a testa, per un >totale di 200 e-mail. Di nuovo, pur essendo tutti in attesa di ricevere >questa e-mail ed intascare i loro miliardi, soltanto la metа di loro, 100 >persone, ha il tempo di ordinare il report numero 2. > >3. Quelle 100 persone spediscono a loro volta 20 e-mail a testa, per un >totale di 2000 e-mail. Stessa storia, solo 1000 di loro trova il tempo di >ordinare il report numero 3. > >4. Quelle 1000 persone spediscono a loro volta 20 e-mail a testa, per un >totale di 20.000 e-mail. Solo 10.000 di loro ordina il report numero 4. > >5. Quelle 10.000 persone spediscono 20 e-mail ciascuno, per un totale di >200.000 e-mail. Solo metа di loro ordina il report numero5. > >Ora un po' di matematica. Il totale della vincita in questo caso, dove non >si ha il pieno potenziale di giocatori, poichй si presume che soltanto la >metа della metа della metа, ecc. partecipi (in euro o in dollari), и il >seguente:: > >Per il report numero 1: 10 richieste = 10 x 5 dollari = 50 dollari = >100.000 lire > >Per il report numero 2: 100 richieste = 100 x 5 dollari = 500 dollari = >1.000.000 di lire > >Per il report numero 3: 1000 richieste = 1000 x 5 dollari = 5000 dollari = >10.000.000 di lire > >Per il report numero 4: 10.000 richieste = 10.000 x 5 dollari = 50.000 >dollari = 100.000.000 di lire ( > >Per il report numero 5: 100.000 richieste = 100.000 x 5 dollari = 500.000 >dollari = 1.000.000.000 di lire > >Totale: 50+ 500+ 5000+ 50.000+ 500.000 = 555.550 dollari = 1.111.100.000 >lire !!!!!!! > >Questo и il minimo che ognuno vincerа poichй и stato ormai sperimentato e >testato negli anni scorsi: ma se ognuno spedisce piщ di 20 e-mail, e cosм >gli altri partecipanti, la vincita avrа proporzioni stratosferiche che >nemmeno potete immaginarvi, ma и possibile allo stesso tempo, senza dubbio, >succede tuttora E SPESSO di avere vincite da 12 zeri !!! Questo dipende da >te, se hai il tempo e la voglia di spedire e-mail a persone che conosci, o >se trovi indirizzi e-mail su vari siti Web gratuiti: non farai altro che >incrementare il valore della tua vincita. Quando parliamo di una vincita di >1,5 - 2 miliardi di lire ogni 6 settimane, ci riferiamo ad una vincita >media ( dati forniti dalle varie trasmissioni televisive che hanno fatto >ricerche fra i numerosi partecipanti e redatto delle statistiche) fra tutti >i giocatori partecipanti. La media di e-mail spedite и di 5.4 a persona. >Ecco perchй possiamo parlare di una vincita "facile", poichй l'unica cosa >da fare и aprire la propria agenda di indirizzi e-mail di amici e >conoscenti, e spedire le e-mail con il proprio nome vicino al report numero >1. Se ci pensate, и proprio un gioco da ragazzi!!! Ma se volete ambire ad >una vincita incredibile (centinaia di miliardi) avete la possibilitа di >farlo, e dipende tutto da voi. Vi sono giocatori nel sistema che arrivano a >spedire anche 1 milione di e-mail nel giro di un paio di settimane: vi >lascio pensare qual и l'entitа della loro vincita!!! > >Come hai letto nella testimonianza di Claudio Tommasi, l'italiano che ha >avuto la cortesia di tradurre questa famosa e-mail in italiano, stiamo >cercando di far rimanere questa e-mail in Italia. Dopo la messa in onda dei >programmi TV che parlavano del sistema, migliaia di italiani hanno >telefonato alle sedi delle reti televisive, chi chiedendo disperatamente >l'indirizzo dell'italiano residente in Colorado, chi dando i propri dati, >chi implorando affinchй scrivessero subito una e-mail anche a loro. Il >problema, come и giа stato spiegato nelle varie trasmissioni , и che >nessuno puт partecipare, a meno che riceva questa e-mail. Tu sei stato >selezionato da un "search-engine" situato negli USA, che ha provveduto a >fornire 1000 indirizzi e-mail italiani a colui che ti ha spedito questa >e-mail, affinchй il tutto potesse avere inizio. Quindi considera la tua >posizione: se cancelli questa e-mail toglierai una grande opportunitа a >coloro che stanno aspettando che tu gli spedisca questa e-mail. Anche se >non intendi partecipare, spedisci questa e-mail ad almeno 10 persone. E se >intendi partecipare, ti chiediamo cortesemente di farla circolare in >Italia, affinchй si crei un ciclo di giocatori italiani che entrano ed >escono, scambiandosi 1,5 - 2 miliardi a turno ogni 6 settimane, come in >altri paesi. Aiutaci in questo tentativo di creare un "ramo" MLM >completamente italiano. Ci и stato reso noto che la scorsa settimana alcuni >giocatori italiani hanno rispedito la e-mail ad amici residenti negli USA, >tagliando fuori milioni di giocatori italiani in attesa. Ti chiediamo >pertanto di evitare che questa e-mail vada persa. Confidiamo nel tuo >impegno, e per questo ti ringraziamo in anticipo. Noi siamo due studenti, >A&W (che vogliono mantenere l'anonimato), della facoltа di ingegneria di >Povo, Trento, amici d'infanzia di Claudio Tommasi e grandi stimatori di >questo grande sistema che sta giа funzionando alla grande per noi. Ti >auguriamo un in bocca al lupo e buon divertimento come nuovo miliardario!!! > > > >ENTRA OGGI STESSO NEL SISTEMA, CORRI SUBITO A PREPARARE LE 5 BUSTE E > >BUON GUADAGNO!!! > >= = = = = = = = = = LA TUA LISTA DEI REPORTS IN ITALIANO = = = = = = = = = >= > > > >ORDINA ADESSO UNA COPIA PER OGNI REPORT: > > >REPORT NUMERO 1 : "Il nuovo, gratuito e-mail software AGM - Completo" > >Ordina il report numero 1 da: > >Vito Sardo > >Via A.Diaz , 96 >91025 Marsala (TP) Italia ___________________________________________________________________ > > >REPORT NUMERO 2 : "Il completo setup di un nuovo, veloce e gratuito >Internet Provider" Italiano > >Ordina il report numero 2 da: > > > Giunta Stefano > >Via Pedolazzi, 156 > >28883 Gravellona Toce (VB > > >______________________________________________________________________ > > >REPORT NUMERO 3 : "Che cos'и una circolare viaggiante - Teoria, prassi, >necessitа della Comunicazione Orizzontale" innovativo contributo di >Alessandro D'Agostini su come diffondere in modo efficace informazioni >libere con la "MLM comunication" Italiano > >Ordina il report numero 3 da: > > > Daniele Paiano > >Via Virgilio, 13 > >72021 Francavilla Fontana (BR) Italia > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ > > >REPORT NUMERO 4 : "E-mail Adress Extract" > >Ordina il report numero 4 da: > > > Nicola Loglisci > >Via Pisa, 47 > >70024 Gravina In Puglia (BA) Italia > > >______________________________________________________________________ > > >REPORT NUMERO 5: "Guida pratica al successo con Multilevel Italian System & >Manuale in Italiano su come usare al meglio il nuovo, gratuito e-mail >software AGM e E-mail Adress Extract" > >Ordina il report numero 5 da: > > > Giovanni Logli > >Via Ulisse Dini, 210 > >56017 San Giuliano Terme (PI) Italia > > >______________________________________________________________________ > > >$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ISTRUZIONI UTILI PER IL TUO SUCCESSO $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > > >Appena ricevi questa e-mail, se intendi partecipare, segui le istruzioni >relative all'inserimento del tuo nome, che abbiamo spiegato alcuni >paragrafi piщ sopra. Comincia a fare un elenco delle persone alle quali >intendi spedire questa e-mail. Fatto ciт comincia pure a spedirle, mentre >aspetti di ricevere i 5 report. Questo ti da il vantaggio nei confronti di >tutti quelli che ti richiederanno i 5 report (e saranno molti!!!). Una >volta che ricevi 10 richieste per il report numero 1, riceverai >matematicamente almeno 100 richieste per il report numero 2. Dopo quello >hai la scelta di rilassarti e tornare a fare quello che facevi prima, >poichй sei entrato nel "vortice" del sistema. Oppure, come spiegato poco >sopra, puoi continuare a spedire e-mail a tutti quelli che te lo >richiederanno, incrementando notevolmente la tua vincita finale. Dipende >solo da quanto denaro hai bisogno!!! Puoi renderti conto di quanti soldi >stai accumulando dal numero di richieste che ti perverranno. Una volta >uscito dal sistema, e con 1.5 - 2 miliardi in tasca (minimo), dovrai >decidere se rientrare o meno. E' abbastanza facile presupporre che starai >ponderando questa alternativa sdraiato su una di quelle lunghissime spiagge >bianche, su di un'isola remota (и abbastanza comune tra tutti i giocatori, >non ti preoccupare!!!). Ma vogliamo ricordarti che il sistema non ha mai >fine sarа sempre disponibile se deciderai di rientrare a patto che qualcun >altro ti scriva. Ricorda, senza e-mail non accedi al sistema. Anche se hai >giа vinto una volta e hai "comprato" i 5 report, questo non ti da il >diritto di scavalcare gli altri giocatori. Devi ricevere una e-mail da uno >dei giocatori, e ripetere tutti i passi, uno per uno, dall'inizio. Questa и >l'unica regola imposta dal sistema, per il beneficio di tutti i giocatori >onesti. Se hai giа vinto una volta и anche merito della loro onestа. > > >Un in bocca al lupo e buona vincita miliardaria a tutti > > >Nota originale dell'autore, ovvero colui che ha inventato il sistema piщ >incredibile del mondo: "Se avete qualsiasi perplessitа riguardo la legalitа >di questo sistema, si prega di contattare: the Office of Associate Director >for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer >Protection, Washington, District of Columbia, U.S.A.". > >RICORDA; QUESTO SISTEMA E' GESTITO DALLE SOLE PERSONE CHE NE PRENDONO PARTE! QUINDI, DA GENTE COMUNE. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 10:32:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.linux-site.net (p50853211.dip.t-dialin.net [80.133.50.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A8137B403 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 10:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WKS1 (client1.freebsd.linux-site.net [192.168.0.2]) by freebsd.linux-site.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g56HUcm04702 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:30:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mario@freebsd.linux-site.net) Reply-To: From: "Mario Schmidt" To: Subject: Adding ports/packages Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:31:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c20d7f$fcf49410$0200a8c0@WKS1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello FreeBSD Pros, :) adding ports is a nice feature. Adding packages is even nicer to me. The problem for me is, i use the web frontend of freebsd.org to scan for good ports and try to add the package for this port with: # pkg_add -r Sometime it fetches the packages ... like "licq-console": Fetching ftp://ftp.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.5-release/Latest/ licq-console.tgz... Done. Sometime it won't find it ... like "darkstar": Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.5-release/Latest/ darkstar.tgz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch `ftp://ftp.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.5-release/Latest /darkstar.tgz' by URL Why can't the pkg_add don't find this and find the other? Can i specify a better "PACKAGESITE" or "PACKAGEROOT" environment, which would get it better? TAI Mario ____________________________________________ ms.software Emmastr. 32 D-42287 Wuppertal Germany Tel.: +49-(0)-202-2817766 Fax : +49-(0)-202-2817767 Web : http://freebsd.linux-site.net Mail: mailto:mario@freebsd.linux-site.net ICQ : #160931152 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 11:58:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.cegetel.fr (mx1-out.cegetel.fr [195.115.41.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3D737B401 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.univers.cegetel.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.cegetel.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13832; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:58:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by HERMES with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:58:55 +0200 Message-ID: <8D7497BD530FD2119D040000F6B656D40BCFFF5C@MINOS> From: ABDALLAH Faycal To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Cc: 'abdallah.faissal@wanadoo.fr' Subject: need help with kde and boot... Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:58:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi list, i have two problems and i need help: 1. i had installed FreeBSD on my machine (HD 40 GB) which had two OS (win98--> 24 GB and Linux Mandrake--> 7GB (with LILO as boot manager) and i then installed FreeBSD on the remainig 7 GB). when i installed FreeBSD i asked it during the sysinstall to install the FreeBSD boot manager and after rebooting the linux partition can no longer be loaded even though i can see its partition with the partition magic in windows...i tried to mount the slice doing :" mount_ext2fs /dev/ad0s2 /mnt/linux" but the system won't let me do so... how can i triple boot my system 2. i installed also the KDE environment during installation and every thing worked well until i have recompiled the kernel for the sound support but till then each time i start the Xwindow using "startx" (as root), i receive a bunch of Xwindow errors such as "kwrited crashed" etc... i included a file script for the output error when trying to start the KDE... this problem appeared in two machines when i recompiled the kernel to support the sound... how would i reinstall kde if needed (i installed it during freebsd installation) i really appreciate your help Sincerely Faissal N.B: please reply also to abdallah.faissal@wanadoo.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 12:11:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.cegetel.fr (mx1-out.cegetel.fr [195.115.41.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9279137B403 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.univers.cegetel.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.cegetel.fr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14806; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:11:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by HERMES with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:11:53 +0200 Message-ID: <8D7497BD530FD2119D040000F6B656D40BCFFF5F@MINOS> From: ABDALLAH Faycal To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Cc: "'abdallah.faissal@wanadoo.fr'" Subject: need help with kde Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:11:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mount_ext2fs /dev/ad0s2 /mnt/linux" but the system won't let me do so... how can i triple boot my system 2. i installed also the KDE environment during installation and every thing worked well until i have recompiled the kernel for the sound support but till then each time i start the Xwindow using "startx" (as root), i receive a bunch of Xwindow errors... the mailer would'nt accept to atach a file to the email therefore i ask you to execuse me for this long email ... i included the output at the end of the mail. this problem appeared in two machines when i recompiled the kernel to support the sound... how would i reinstall kde if needed (i installed it during freebsd installation) i really appreciate your help Sincerely Faissal N.B: please reply also to abdallah.faissal@wanadoo.fr output when running "startx": DCOPServer up and running. >> running as realtime process now (priority 15) Can't get own host name. Your system is severely misconfigured _IceTransSocketOpen: socket() failed for local _IceTransSocketOpenCOTSClient: Unable to open socket for local _IceTransOpen: transport open failed for local/BigDADI:/tmp/.ICE-unix/313 Session management error: Could not open network socket QDir::readDirEntries: Cannot read the directory: /root/.kde/share/icons QDir::readDirEntries: Cannot read the directory: /usr/local/share/icons Couldn't open /usr/local/share/config/kdebug.areas klipper: ERROR: Error: standard icon theme "hicolor" not found! WARNING: Unable to open style plugin /usr/local/lib/hcstyle.la(file not found) QDir::readDirEntries: Cannot read the directory: /root/.kde/share/icons QDir::readDirEntries: Cannot read the directory: /usr/local/share/icons Couldn't open /usr/local/share/config/kdebug.areas kwrited: ERROR: Error: standard icon theme "hicolor" not found! KCrash: crashing.... crashRecursionCounter = 2 KCrash: Application Name = kwrited path = pid = 325 DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-324' to 'kwrited' ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error! kdecore (KAccel): NumLock = mod2, keySymX = ff7f kdecore (KAccel): ModeSwitch = mod3, keySymX = ff7e kdecore (KAccel): ScrollLock = mod5, keySymX = ff14 kdecore (KAccel): Alt: keyModMaskX = 0x8 kdecore (KAccel): NumLock: keyModMaskX = 0x10 kdecore (KAccel): ModeSwitch: keyModMaskX = 0x20 kdecore (KAccel): Meta: keyModMaskX = 0x0 kdecore (KAccel): ScrollLock: keyModMaskX = 0x80 kdecore (KAccel): stringToKey(CTRL+ALT+V) = c00056 kdecore (KAccel): stringToKey(Meta+Ctrl+V) = 1400056 kdecore (KAccel): stringToKey(CTRL+ALT+R) = c00052 kdecore (KAccel): stringToKey(Meta+Ctrl+R) = 1400052 kdecore (KAccel): stringToKey(CTRL+ALT+X) = c00058 kdecore (KAccel): stringToKey(Meta+Ctrl+X) = 1400058 kdecore (KAccel): NumLock = mod2, keySymX = ff7f kdecore (KAccel): ModeSwitch = mod3, keySymX = ff7e kdecore (KAccel): ScrollLock = mod5, keySymX = ff14 kdecore (KAccel): Alt: keyModMaskX = 0x8 kdecore (KAccel): NumLock: keyModMaskX = 0x10 kdecore (KAccel): ModeSwitch: keyModMaskX = 0x20 kdecore (KAccel): Meta: keyModMaskX = 0x0 kdecore (KAccel): ScrollLock: keyModMaskX = 0x80 kdecore (KAccel): grabKey( "show-klipper-popupmenu" key: 0xc00056, bGrab: 1 ): show-klipper-popupmenu keyCodeX: 37 keyModX: c kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x37 state: 0xc | 0x0 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x37 state: 0xc | 0x2 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x37 state: 0xc | 0x10 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x37 state: 0xc | 0x12 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x37 state: 0xc | 0x80 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x37 state: 0xc | 0x82 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x37 state: 0xc | 0x90 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x37 state: 0xc | 0x92 kdecore (KAccel): grabKey( "repeat-last-klipper-action" key: 0xc00052, bGrab: 1 ): repeat-last-klipper-action keyCodeX: 1b keyModX: c kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x1b state: 0xc | 0x0 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x1b state: 0xc | 0x2 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x1b state: 0xc | 0x10 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x1b state: 0xc | 0x12 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x1b state: 0xc | 0x80 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x1b state: 0xc | 0x82 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x1b state: 0xc | 0x90 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x1b state: 0xc | 0x92 kdecore (KAccel): grabKey( "toggle-clipboard-actions" key: 0xc00058, bGrab: 1 ): toggle-clipboard-actions keyCodeX: 35 keyModX: c kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x35 state: 0xc | 0x0 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x35 state: 0xc | 0x2 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x35 state: 0xc | 0x10 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x35 state: 0xc | 0x12 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x35 state: 0xc | 0x80 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x35 state: 0xc | 0x82 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x35 state: 0xc | 0x90 kdecore (KAccel): code: 0x35 state: 0xc | 0x92 kdecore (KAccel): KGlobalAccel::readSettings() kdecore (KAccel): repeat-last-klipper-action = key: 0xc00052 curKey: 0xc00052 enabled: 1 kdecore (KAccel): show-klipper-popupmenu = key: 0xc00056 curKey: 0xc00056 enabled: 1 kdecore (KAccel): toggle-clipboard-actions = key: 0xc00058 curKey: 0xc00058 enabled: 1 WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8 Major opcode: 42 WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8 Major opcode: 42 kicker: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 kicker: WARNING: KDE detected X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 DCOP Cleaning up dead connections. kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children. warning: leaving MCOP Dispatcher and still 16 object references alive. - Arts::WavPlayObject - Arts::SampleStorage - Arts::Synth_MULTI_ADD - Arts::Synth_MULTI_ADD - Arts::Synth_PLAY - Arts::StereoVolumeControl - Arts::StereoEffectStack - Arts::Synth_BUS_DOWNLINK - Arts::SoundServerV2 - Arts::Synth_BUS_UPLINK - Arts::WavPlayObject - Arts::WavPlayObject - Arts::Synth_BUS_UPLINK - Arts::Synth_BUS_UPLINK - Arts::WavPlayObject - Arts::Synth_BUS_UPLINK warning: leaving MCOP Dispatcher and still 241 types alive. KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 12:19:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A5B37B403 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA5521; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:19:40 -0700 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:14:40 -0700 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-164.acuson.com [157.226.46.164]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MJSA0S3M; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:15:10 -0700 From: Johnson David To: ABDALLAH Faycal , "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: need help with kde and boot... Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:19:35 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <8D7497BD530FD2119D040000F6B656D40BCFFF5C@MINOS> In-Reply-To: <8D7497BD530FD2119D040000F6B656D40BCFFF5C@MINOS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200206061219.06290.djohnson@acuson.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday 06 June 2002 11:58 am, ABDALLAH Faycal wrote: > mount_ext2fs /dev/ad0s2 /mnt/linux" but the system won't let me do so... > how can i triple boot my system You should have created a Linux boot disk during Mandrake installation. Use it to boot into Linux. Then set up and install LILO to the *root* partition. Then select that partition from the FreeBSD boot manager during boot and you should be fine. (I suspect that Mandrake installed LILO to the MBR instead, and installing the FreeBSD boot manager wiped it out.) Another alternative is to use Grub. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 12:33:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.cegetel.fr (mx1-out.cegetel.fr [195.115.41.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D0037B41E for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.univers.cegetel.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.cegetel.fr (8.9.3+Sun/tCegetel.fr) with ESMTP id VAA02143; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:33:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by HERMES with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:33:26 +0200 Message-ID: <8D7497BD530FD2119D040000F6B656D40BCFFF60@MINOS> From: ABDALLAH Faycal To: "'Johnson David'" , ABDALLAH Faycal , "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: need help with kde and boot... Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:33:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unfortunately, i didn't make a boot floppy for the mandrake cause i of lack of experience (i'm a newbie remember ;-) and i didn't find grub in the package collection neither... can i make a bootable mandrake floppy for another computer or it will not be good? faissal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 12:54:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3337C37B400 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA59A7; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:54:38 -0700 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:49:38 -0700 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-164.acuson.com [157.226.46.164]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MJSA0S9A; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:50:05 -0700 From: Johnson David To: ABDALLAH Faycal , "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: need help with kde and boot... Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:54:31 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <8D7497BD530FD2119D040000F6B656D40BCFFF60@MINOS> In-Reply-To: <8D7497BD530FD2119D040000F6B656D40BCFFF60@MINOS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200206061254.31361.djohnson@acuson.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday 06 June 2002 12:33 pm, ABDALLAH Faycal wrote: > unfortunately, i didn't make a boot floppy for the mandrake cause i of lack > of experience (i'm a newbie remember ;-) and i didn't find grub in the > package collection neither... Sigh. Mandrake, as a professional company, should have had its installer make a boot disk by default. I'm not that familiar with Mandrake, but check on the CD so see if there's an option to make an emergency boot disk after the fact. Otherwise, Grub can boot Linux without needing to go through LILO. You'll need to read the instructions though. You can find Grub in the ports collection under /usr/ports/sysutils/grub. > can i make a bootable mandrake floppy for another computer or it will not > be good? If the Mandrake boot disks are based on LILO, probably not, since the boot disks will have harddrive mappings hardcoded in. David p.s. FreeBSD doesn't make a boot disk by default during installation, but the FreeBSD install disk can still double as an emergency boot disk. p.p.s. If you end up reinstalling Mandrake, make sure you DO NOT install LILO back to the MBR (master boot record) unless you wish to use LILO to boot Windows and FreeBSD as well. And if you do, don't forget to set it up to do so before you install it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 15:25:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from samwise.jobeus.net (samwise.jobeus.net [209.91.102.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D75F37B400 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 15:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by samwise.jobeus.net (8.12.3/8.11.6) id g56MP8ge091160; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 16:25:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@jobeus.net) Received: from localhost (freebsd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by samwise.jobeus.net (8.12.3/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id g56MP0Tc091146; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 16:25:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@jobeus.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 16:25:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Scott Carmichael To: Mario Schmidt Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding ports/packages In-Reply-To: <000701c20d7f$fcf49410$0200a8c0@WKS1> Message-ID: <20020606162153.X90938-100000@samwise.jobeus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There aren't packages for every port. If it's not available on the ftp.*.freebsd.org sites, I'd suggest you just install the port instead. -Scott On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Mario Schmidt wrote: > Hello FreeBSD Pros, > > :) adding ports is a nice feature. Adding packages is even nicer to me. The > problem for me is, i use the web frontend of freebsd.org to scan for good > ports and try to add the package for this port with: > > # pkg_add -r > > Sometime it fetches the packages ... like "licq-console": > > Fetching > ftp://ftp.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.5-release/Latest/ > licq-console.tgz... Done. > > Sometime it won't find it ... like "darkstar": > > Error: FTP Unable to get > ftp://ftp.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.5-release/Latest/ > darkstar.tgz: File unavailable > (e.g., file not found, no access) > pkg_add: unable to fetch > `ftp://ftp.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.5-release/Latest > /darkstar.tgz' by URL > > Why can't the pkg_add don't find this and find the other? Can i specify a > better "PACKAGESITE" or "PACKAGEROOT" environment, which would get it > better? > > TAI > Mario > > ____________________________________________ > ms.software > Emmastr. 32 > D-42287 Wuppertal > Germany > > Tel.: +49-(0)-202-2817766 > Fax : +49-(0)-202-2817767 > Web : http://freebsd.linux-site.net > Mail: mailto:mario@freebsd.linux-site.net > ICQ : #160931152 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 18:59: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from famine.ofda.net (famine.ofda.net [205.177.126.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F9D37B406 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by famine.ofda.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:57:28 -0400 Message-ID: <286CA1D65CF6D511B42B0004763B4F5F09A0D4@famine.ofda.net> From: rwatson@OFDA.NET To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Webmail Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:57:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C20DC6.ACA44E50" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20DC6.ACA44E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, So, I have a box running Freebsd. Now what? I think that I would like to start setting up email with secure webmail. Using Pine via SSH is fine normally, however, when travelling, SSL webmail is very nice. Where do I begin? What mail packages, programs and features do I need to begin installing and configuring? Any advice is apprecited, TIA Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of those who Threaten it. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20DC6.ACA44E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello,
 
So, I have a box running Freebsd.  Now what? 
 
I think that I would like to start setting up email with secure webmail.  Using Pine via SSH is fine normally, however, when travelling, SSL webmail is very nice.
 
Where do I begin?  What mail packages, programs and features do I need to begin installing and configuring?
 
Any advice is apprecited,
 
TIA

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of those who Threaten it.

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C20DC6.ACA44E50-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 19:15:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.crackula.com (adsl-64-169-68-38.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.169.68.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D8B37B408 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from monkey@localhost) by mail.crackula.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30992; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:12:48 -0700 From: Adam Weinberger To: rwatson@OFDA.NET Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Webmail Message-ID: <20020606191248.A24834@crackula.com> References: <286CA1D65CF6D511B42B0004763B4F5F09A0D4@famine.ofda.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: MarioMail Super Nintendo w/ 2 controllers In-Reply-To: <286CA1D65CF6D511B42B0004763B4F5F09A0D4@famine.ofda.net>; from rwatson@OFDA.NET on Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:57:27PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org rwatson - if you have installed the ports tree (i'll assume you have; you have pine installed), then everything you need is already there. start by installing apache, from ports/www/apache13-ssl/. this will give you apache and the ssl support you want. you will need to create a certificate. the decision to generate one from your machine for free and trek through 5 or 6 warning boxes every time you load up your mail interface, or go pay to have one generated for you. after that, everything else you need can be installed via the IMP port, part of a larger project to provide web-based applications of all sorts and sizes. you can find IMP in ports/mail/imp3/. good luck. -Adam rwatson@OFDA.NET took 2.9K on Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:57:27PM -0400 to say: > > Hello, > So, I have a box running Freebsd. Now what? > I think that I would like to start setting up email with secure > webmail. Using Pine via SSH is fine normally, however, when > travelling, SSL webmail is very nice. > Where do I begin? What mail packages, programs and features do I need > to begin installing and configuring? > Any advice is apprecited, > TIA > Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of those who Threaten it. -- "I am disrespectful to dirt! Can you see I am serious!" -Mr. Sparkle Adam Weinberger monkey@crackula.com http://www.crackula.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 19:30:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from valis.olywa.net (valis.olywa.net [216.173.192.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609F837B400; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intrepid.snowpoint.com ([216.173.213.173]) by valis.olywa.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-56662U5000L500S0V35) with ESMTP id net; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:30:46 -0700 Received: from ([216.173.213.172]) by intrepid.snowpoint.com (Merak 4.10.020) with SMTP id HUB36795; Thu, 06 Jun 2002 19:26:17 -0700 From: "Corey Snow" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:30:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Bridging Firewall Message-ID: <3CFFB86C.31738.5BECA9F@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So I'm being a total masochist. I've never used FreeBSD before, and got it installed on a truly ancient 486 DX2/66 with 32 MB RAM yesterday night. It seems to run well (a helluva lot faster than I thought it would on such ancient hardware) and I'm pleased so far. I'm reasonably certain it can handle what I want it to do, based on the research I've done. I was surprised at how little horsepower it takes to run a decent firewall. Goal: To add a second NIC to this beast (it has one currently) and turn it into a bridging firewall using ipfw and the bridging kernel options. I've never built a custom kernel before, so I'm diving in, waiting for the appropriate chapters to get spat out of the printer before going any further. :) Secondary Goal: To add support for my Panasonic CDROM drive, which is accessed through an old Creative Labs SoundBlaster. I don't care about sound support, and I haven't installed X (don't need it on a firewall box) so the only reason the card is in the machine is that it can't be driven by any other type of card (even though it has a 40- pin interface like an IDE drive- that was quite annoying). I think I'm pretty comfortable with the process as described, and worst-case is I have to blow my install away and start over (no big deal at this stage). However, there's one question I'm not certain about. If I want to add a second ISA Ethernet NIC (I have two GeniusLAN 10BaseT NICS that work as NE2000 NICS) do I have to run the MAKEDEV shell script before or after rebuilding the kernel, or does it matter? I assume it's after, from what I've read. Anyway, the plan is to back up my kernel, follow the directions on the web site and configure an new one, rebuild, then use MAKEDEV to add the second NIC. After that, assuming it all goes well, I guess I'll start playing with bridging and the firewall rules on a dummy network I have here. Comments, suggestions, and/or belly laughs at my ignorance would be appreciated. :) Thanks, Corey Snow To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jun 6 23:21:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lexx.zssm.zp.ua (lexx.zssm.zp.ua [212.8.32.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F4237B401; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 23:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.hermes-comp.zp.ua (germes-comp.zssm.zp.ua [212.8.32.132] (may be forged)) by lexx.zssm.zp.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA04035; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:19:38 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.hermes-comp.zp.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id B932638302; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:16:03 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:16:03 +0300 (EEST) From: Alexander V Zubchenko To: Corey Snow Cc: , Subject: Re: Bridging Firewall In-Reply-To: <3CFFB86C.31738.5BECA9F@localhost> Message-ID: <20020607090727.L60781-100000@server.hermes-comp.zp.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings! On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Corey Snow wrote: > So I'm being a total masochist. I've never used FreeBSD before, and > got it installed on a truly ancient 486 DX2/66 with 32 MB RAM No You are not. My first FreeBSD box was 486DX2/80 with 8 MB RAM and it was really fast. I even worked with X wthout _very_ annoying delays ;-) > yesterday night. It seems to run well (a helluva lot faster than I > thought it would on such ancient hardware) and I'm pleased so far. > I'm reasonably certain it can handle what I want it to do, based on > the research I've done. I was surprised at how little horsepower it > takes to run a decent firewall. If You are not using X, RDBMS or other processor/memory consuming processes like this, real min to run at acceptable speed is 486DX40/8 > > Goal: To add a second NIC to this beast (it has one currently) and > turn it into a bridging firewall using ipfw and the bridging kernel > options. I've never built a custom kernel before, so I'm diving in, > waiting for the appropriate chapters to get spat out of the printer > before going any further. :) Yes, You need to recompile your kernel (this is well documented either in previous answer or in handbook. And b sured to rem/del out any junkj from there (there r a lot of junk in GENERIC kernel). > > Secondary Goal: To add support for my Panasonic CDROM drive, which is > accessed through an old Creative Labs SoundBlaster. I don't care > about sound support, and I haven't installed X (don't need it on a > firewall box) so the only reason the card is in the machine is that > it can't be driven by any other type of card (even though it has a 40- > pin interface like an IDE drive- that was quite annoying). Get a look at supported hardware list. It is in Handbook also. AFAIR, Panasonic CD-ROM is supported, but this also depend on fbsd version (of course ;)) > > I think I'm pretty comfortable with the process as described, and > worst-case is I have to blow my install away and start over (no big > deal at this stage). However, there's one question I'm not certain > about. > > If I want to add a second ISA Ethernet NIC (I have two GeniusLAN > 10BaseT NICS that work as NE2000 NICS) do I have to run the MAKEDEV > shell script before or after rebuilding the kernel, or does it > matter? I assume it's after, from what I've read. Anyway, the plan is > to back up my kernel, follow the directions on the web site and > configure an new one, rebuild, then use MAKEDEV to add the second > NIC. After that, assuming it all goes well, I guess I'll start > playing with bridging and the firewall rules on a dummy network I > have here. No, You shouldn't to play with MAKEDEV, because NIC devices is virtual. They r not present in /dev or any other place, excepting kernel mind ;) Just rebuild kernel, check info on bootstage and ifconfig appropriate device... > > Comments, suggestions, and/or belly laughs at my ignorance would be > appreciated. :) > > Thanks, > > Corey Snow > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > Always at your service, Alexander To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jun 7 5:27:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from home.24cl.com (174.113.sn.ct.dsl.thebiz.net [216.238.113.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC2037B401 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 05:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntmm (unknown [63.119.50.193]) by home.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427A12B27E for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <200206070827530466.038AD796@sentry.24cl.com> In-Reply-To: <286CA1D65CF6D511B42B0004763B4F5F09A0D4@famine.ofda.net> References: <286CA1D65CF6D511B42B0004763B4F5F09A0D4@famine.ofda.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (1) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:27:53 -0400 Reply-To: myraq@mgm51.com From: "MikeM" To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Webmail Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 6/6/02 at 9:57 PM rwatson@OFDA.NET wrote: >Hello, > >So, I have a box running Freebsd. Now what? > >I think that I would like to start setting up email with secure webmail. >Using Pine via SSH is fine normally, however, when travelling, SSL webmail >is very nice. > >Where do I begin? What mail packages, programs and features do I need to >begin installing and configuring? ============= I use and like Postfix (www.postfix.org) and Courier IMAP (http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/). I like Courier IMAP because it also provides POP3 and IMAP over SSL. For the webmail part, I am torn between the Courier SqWebMail (see reference on the courier IMAP page) and SquirrelMail (http://www.squirrelmail.org/). I use the apache13_ssl port. Works fine. Most, if not all, of the above are in the ports tree. Enjoy! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jun 7 17:45:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from famine.ofda.net (famine.ofda.net [205.177.126.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C7E37B406 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by famine.ofda.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 20:43:37 -0400 Message-ID: <286CA1D65CF6D511B42B0004763B4F5F09A0D9@famine.ofda.net> From: rwatson@OFDA.NET To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Host Name Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 20:43:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C20E85.80C1F7F0" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C20E85.80C1F7F0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jun 7 18: 1:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.crackula.com (adsl-64-169-68-38.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.169.68.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CE837B403 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 18:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from monkey@localhost) by mail.crackula.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08686; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:58:39 -0700 From: Adam Weinberger To: rwatson@OFDA.NET Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Host Name Message-ID: <20020607175839.A31470@crackula.com> References: <286CA1D65CF6D511B42B0004763B4F5F09A0D9@famine.ofda.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: MarioMail Super Nintendo w/ 2 controllers In-Reply-To: <286CA1D65CF6D511B42B0004763B4F5F09A0D9@famine.ofda.net>; from rwatson@OFDA.NET on Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:43:27PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org rwatson - 1) hostname -s hostnameyouwanttosetitto 2) edit /etc/rc.conf. add, or change, the line to be: hostname="hostname.domain.tld" -Adam rwatson@OFDA.NET took 1.1K on Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:43:27PM -0400 to say: > > Hello, > > I would like some basic admin help... I created my machine but > mispelled the hostname. > > Where do I change the host name and how do I initialized it once I > have changed it? > Thanks -- "I am disrespectful to dirt! Can you see I am serious!" -Mr. Sparkle Adam Weinberger monkey@crackula.com http://www.crackula.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jun 7 19:10:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3759C37B404 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g582A2p47356 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200206080210.g582A2p47356@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. 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