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Hi, Can you tell me what command to show the

total memory installed and available for the system.

in Freebsd 4.5. Thank you very much for your help.

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Check out "top" .

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Hi, Can you tell me what command to show the
total memory installed and available for the system.
in Freebsd 4.5. Thank you very much for your help.
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To find out your total installed memory you could:

# dmesg | grep "real memory"

but you need to be root!

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Hi,

I am running a FreeBSD 4.5 box with KDE installed.  On the other box I 
have XP with TinyTerm terminal program and MIX Windows Server. I am 
connecting to the BSD box thru OpenSSH. Firewall settings are default. 
When I type setenv DISPLAY="192.168.0.3:0.0" (BSD is 192.168.0.1, XP is 
192.168.0.3) in terminal program and then run xman or other X program I 
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:43:26 -0400
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> When I type setenv DISPLAY="192.168.0.3:0.0" (BSD is 192.168.0.1, XP 
I don't know if this is your problem, but I think you are mixing sh and csh syntax there. Either, within the c shell or clones such as tcsh, type "setenv DISPLAY 192.168.0.3:0.0" (no equals) or type within a sh shell or clones such as bash or ksh, "DISPLAY=192.168.0.3:0.0 ; export DISPLAY"

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>>When I type setenv DISPLAY="192.168.0.3:0.0" (BSD is 192.168.0.1, XP 
>>    
>>
>I don't know if this is your problem, but I think you are mixing sh and csh syntax there. Either, within the c shell or clones such as tcsh, type "setenv DISPLAY 192.168.0.3:0.0" (no equals) or type within a sh shell or clones such as bash or ksh, "DISPLAY=192.168.0.3:0.0 ; export DISPLAY"
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It's OK now. The problem was not in shell. I started the server with 
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Hi,

i have a stupid ls question. When i hit /bin/ls as root i get a list 
including dot-files. If i hit /bin/ls as a normal user i don't get any 
dot-files, how come?

Is this configurable?

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On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Mack Lobell wrote:

> Hi,
>
> i have a stupid ls question. When i hit /bin/ls as root i get a list
> including dot-files. If i hit /bin/ls as a normal user i don't get any
> dot-files, how come?
>
> Is this configurable?

Take a peek at /root/.cshrc

and you'll see this alias:

alias ls	ls -Fa

the a shows all files (including the hidden or dot files) and the F puts a
/ after directories and a * after executables.

You can put the same alias in your regular user's shell file.

Dru


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Dru wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Mack Lobell wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > i have a stupid ls question. When i hit /bin/ls as root i get a list
> > including dot-files. If i hit /bin/ls as a normal user i don't get any
> > dot-files, how come?
> >
> > Is this configurable?
> 
> Take a peek at /root/.cshrc

Not quite.  For example, my root account uses bash and there is no
ls alias.  However a straight "ls" will show dotfiles except for '.'
and '..'.  The reason for this is in ls(1):

     -A      List all entries except for . and ...  Always set for the super-
             user.

So basically there's a bit of code in ls that adds -A to the effective
commandline arguements when uid==0.

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I am new to running backups on FreeBSD.  We currently have just one 
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incremental backups will run daily, full backups will run once a week 
and a log file will be generated.  Could anyone please point me to a 
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looked into using Amanda but it seems like overkill since I just need to 
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Hi, 1) I've tried to set my console to vidcontrol 132x43 but it says:
vidcontrol: cannot set videomode: inappropriate ioctl for device I've
compiled the kernel with options VESA What do I do wrong? 
2) I've compiled the kernel with ipfw support.
After the restart I get all these messages that says "connection attempt to
" bla bla bla on the console. 
How can i get these messages written to file and not to the console? 
It's very anoying when you type some thing and it gets messed up by these
messages
 
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Hi everyone!

We're trying to set up a phpBB bulletin board on our website (which
doesn't actually exist yet haha), that will use MySQL as the back end.
We received an Apache server from tech services that has FreeBSD already
installed on it.  And we're on our own now!  I just burned MySQL and
phpBB onto a CD and am going to try to install them on the server.  

I have never used unix before nor do I have any experience working with
servers or hardware.  I'm a software developer YIKES!  Does anyone have
any tips or hints for me?  I would really appreciate this as I have no
idea where to begin YIKES! :)

Thanks ever so much...

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> the right direction to set this up? Is this a software package I can load or
> is each service configured individually? I want to take a look and play

It is all in apaches httpd.conf.


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Someone, quite probably Christy Roberts, once wrote:
>We're trying to set up a phpBB bulletin board on our website (which
>doesn't actually exist yet haha), that will use MySQL as the back end.
>We received an Apache server from tech services that has FreeBSD already
>installed on it.  And we're on our own now!  I just burned MySQL and
>phpBB onto a CD and am going to try to install them on the server.  
>
>I have never used unix before nor do I have any experience working with
>servers or hardware.  I'm a software developer YIKES!  Does anyone have
>any tips or hints for me?  I would really appreciate this as I have no
>idea where to begin YIKES! :)

Ports are your friends :-)

Having a vague idea about the ports system will *really* make your life
easier.  You'll find all you need to know at <URL: http://www.freebsd.or
g/doc/handbook/ports.html > but basically it reduces installing
something like MySQL into easy steps like:

# cd /usr/ports/database/mysql323-server
# make
# make install
# make clean

Btw, you should also look at /usr/ports/www/phpbb

In terms of managing ports etc. you need cvsup and portupgrade, both can
be installed form the ports or with a simple:

# pkg_add -r cvsup
# pkg_add -r portupgrade


For both you can read the handbook at <URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/h
andbook/ > or pay a visit to <URL: http://www.freebsddiary.org/ > where
things are explained in a more informal manner.

Kevin
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I wasn't talking about just apache, I was talking about a whole virtual
environment for the machine.

Thanks for the response anyway.


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> the right direction to set this up? Is this a software package I can load
or
> is each service configured individually? I want to take a look and play

It is all in apaches httpd.conf.


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-- Bob wrote:
> I wasn't talking about just apache, I was talking about a whole virtual
> environment for the machine.

Try FreeVSD (http://www.FreeVSD.org, or do a google search);  this
should hopefully work;  you will need to turn on Linux Binary Emulation.
For that, and other topics related to virtual servers, and security, I
would advise you look at the FreeBSD Handbook.

Also try: http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org; they have some good articles
lying around loosely which should help you in building what you sought.

Hope this helps.
Regards.

-- 
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First off...This question would probably get a better response in freebsd-questions. Secondly, I believe the 'virtual server' you
speak of requires specialized hardware. It is not something that's enabled by FreeBSD by itself. If I'm wrong please let me know as
I'd like to play with this feature as well.



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> I wasn't talking about just apache, I was talking about a whole virtual
> environment for the machine.
>
> Thanks for the response anyway.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> > the right direction to set this up? Is this a software package I can load
> or
> > is each service configured individually? I want to take a look and play
>
> It is all in apaches httpd.conf.
>
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That's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

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-- Bob wrote:
> I wasn't talking about just apache, I was talking about a whole virtual
> environment for the machine.

Try FreeVSD (http://www.FreeVSD.org, or do a google search);  this
should hopefully work;  you will need to turn on Linux Binary Emulation.
For that, and other topics related to virtual servers, and security, I
would advise you look at the FreeBSD Handbook.

Also try: http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org; they have some good articles
lying around loosely which should help you in building what you sought.

Hope this helps.
Regards.

-- 
Hiten Pandya
http://www.unixdaemons.com/~hiten
hiten@unixdaemons.com, hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hiten@xMach.org
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Someone, quite probably Daniel Squire, once wrote:
>First off...This question would probably get a better response in freebsd-
>questions. Secondly, I believe the 'virtual server' you
>speak of requires specialized hardware. It is not something that's enabled by 
>FreeBSD by itself. If I'm wrong please let me know as
>I'd like to play with this feature as well.

You should be able to do what you want with Jail, therefore:

man 8 jail
<URL: http://www.google.com/search?q=FreeBSD+jail&sourceid=opera&num=0&i
e=utf-8&oe=utf-8 >
ask on -questions and/or -isp depending on what level of info you want.

Kevin

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "bob" <subscriptions@nhinsights.com>
>> I wasn't talking about just apache, I was talking about a whole virtual
>> environment for the machine.
>>
>> Thanks for the response anyway.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Heiko Recktenwald
>> > the right direction to set this up? Is this a software package I can load
>> or
>> > is each service configured individually? I want to take a look and play
>>
>> It is all in apaches httpd.conf.

-- 
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:14:28 -0230
"Christy Roberts" <christy@genesis.mun.ca> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> We're trying to set up a phpBB bulletin board on our website (which
> doesn't actually exist yet haha), that will use MySQL as the back end.
> We received an Apache server from tech services that has FreeBSD already
> installed on it.  And we're on our own now!  I just burned MySQL and
> phpBB onto a CD and am going to try to install them on the server.  
> 
> I have never used unix before nor do I have any experience working with
> servers or hardware.  I'm a software developer YIKES!  Does anyone have
> any tips or hints for me?  I would really appreciate this as I have no
> idea where to begin YIKES! :)
> 
> Thanks ever so much...
> 
> Christy
> St. John's, Newfoundland
> :-)
> 

Hi Christy,

Does your install of Apache include php4 support?  I'd recommend
this if you're installing a PHP based forum system like phpBB.

/usr/ports/www/mod_php4

There was a recent vulnerability discovered with older versions but
I believe the port has been updated.  I suggest cvsup or portupgrade
to upgrade your ports before installing anything, just to be safe.

I'd also recommend /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin or
/usr/ports/sysutils/webmin for making management of your MySQL
databases a bit easier:

http://www.phpmyadmin.net/

http://www.webmin.com/

As far as phpBB goes, you can certainly install it from the ports
collection but I recommend you just download the current version
(2.0.1 - Full package) and unzip it in your web directory:
/usr/local/www/

Once you have unzipped it and followed it's install/configuration
instructions, you can simply link to where you store your web docs:

ln -s /usr/local/www/phpbb /usr/local/www/data/(name_it_whatever_you_want)

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Hi,

I'm new to FreeBSD. I have had a little experience
with Slackware Linux.

I have a couple of questions.

This is the output (partial) from ls -l /dev of my
FreeBSD 4.6 i386 box.

...
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00020002 Jul 23 14:49 da0s1
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00020000 Jul 23 14:49 da0s1a
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00020001 Jul 23 14:49 da0s1b
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00020002 Jul 23 14:49 da0s1c
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00020003 Jul 23 14:49 da0s1d
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00020004 Jul 23 14:49 da0s1e
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00020005 Jul 23 14:49 da0s1f
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00020006 Jul 23 14:49 da0s1g
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00020007 Jul 23 14:49 da0s1h
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00030002 Jul 23 14:49 da0s2
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00040002 Jul 23 14:49 da0s3
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x00050002 Jul 23 14:49 da0s4
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   13, 0x0001000a Jul 23 14:49 da1
...

Why /dev/MAKEDEV create these nodes as char device? Should't
these device be created as block device (disk & cdrom)?

Other question. Which the difference between /dev/cd0a &
/dev/cd0c?

...
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   15,   0 Jul 23 14:50 cd0a
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   15,   2 Jul 23 14:50 cd0c
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   15,   8 Jul 23 14:50 cd1a
crw-r-----  2 root  operator   15,  10 Jul 23 14:50 cd1c
...

Last: majors are listed in /usr/src/sys/conf/majors
and minors?

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Hello Marco.

--- Marco Berizzi <pupilla@hotmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> This is the output (partial) from ls -l /dev of my
> FreeBSD 4.6 i386 box.
> 
> [ ... ls output snipped ]
> 
> Why /dev/MAKEDEV create these nodes as char device? Should't
> these device be created as block device (disk & cdrom)?

OK.  First of all, block device support used to exist in FreeBSD,
till FreeBSD 4.2(or 3), and after that, the whole block device
subsystem was replaced with a character device subsystem; this
had its advantages.   Apart from performance, I am not sure
what other advantages it offered; but since 4.3, all device nodes
use the Character Device Driver Interface, i.e. is why it results
in character nodes.

For the user, this should not make any difference, as it still
offers the same functionality as it did when they were as block
devices, unless you go far into the internals.

> Other question. Which the difference between /dev/cd0a &
> /dev/cd0c?

The FreeBSD Handbook / FAQ should contain an answer for this question.

> Last: majors are listed in /usr/src/sys/conf/majors
> and minors?

I am not sure about this question. sorry.

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Hi Hiten,

Thanks for the reply about char & block devices.
Now all is much more clean.

About cd, handbook reports:

...
Suppose you add the IDE CD-ROM support to the
kernel. The line to add is:

    device acd0

This means that you should look for some entries
that start with acd0 in the /dev directory, possibly
followed by a letter, such as c, or preceded by the
letter r, which means a ``raw'' device. It turns out
that those files are not there, so you must change
to the /dev directory and type:

    # sh MAKEDEV acd0

When this script finishes, you will find that there
are now acd0c and racd0c entries in /dev so you know
that it executed correctly.
...

I haven't found anything about the difference
between cd0a & cd0c.
Any hints?

>From: Hiten Pandya <hitmaster2k@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org
>To: Marco Berizzi <pupilla@hotmail.com>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: block device vs char device
>Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 05:43:00 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hello Marco.
>
>--- Marco Berizzi <pupilla@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> > This is the output (partial) from ls -l /dev of my
> > FreeBSD 4.6 i386 box.
> >
> > [ ... ls output snipped ]
> >
> > Why /dev/MAKEDEV create these nodes as char device? Should't
> > these device be created as block device (disk & cdrom)?
>
>OK.  First of all, block device support used to exist in FreeBSD,
>till FreeBSD 4.2(or 3), and after that, the whole block device
>subsystem was replaced with a character device subsystem; this
>had its advantages.   Apart from performance, I am not sure
>what other advantages it offered; but since 4.3, all device nodes
>use the Character Device Driver Interface, i.e. is why it results
>in character nodes.
>
>For the user, this should not make any difference, as it still
>offers the same functionality as it did when they were as block
>devices, unless you go far into the internals.
>
> > Other question. Which the difference between /dev/cd0a &
> > /dev/cd0c?
>
>The FreeBSD Handbook / FAQ should contain an answer for this question.
>
> > Last: majors are listed in /usr/src/sys/conf/majors
> > and minors?
>
>I am not sure about this question. sorry.
>
>   -- Hiten


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--- Marco Berizzi <pupilla@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Hiten,
> 
> Thanks for the reply about char & block devices.
> Now all is much more clean.

No Problem.

> [ ... ]
>
> I haven't found anything about the difference
> between cd0a & cd0c.
> Any hints?

OK.  Ah my friend, it seems you didnt check the man pages (a very nice 
discovery :-).  For information on 'cd' type devices, look at:

 1) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=cd&apropos=0&sektion=4
 -- This man page contains information about SCSI CDROM Devices.

 2) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ata&apropos=0&sektion=4
 -- This man page contains information about ATAPI CDROM Devices.

Hope this helps.

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thanks for the patience.
I have read the man pages you have pointed me
before writing to the list but they don't
explain clearly the difference (at least for me).
Idem the handbook. Sometimes it reports you should
use cd0c (possibly) and some examples (take a look
at the SAP installation section) reports cd0a.

Currently for me it is not clear why should I use
cd0c and not cd0a to mount a cdrom (or viceversa).
Both device are working well for me (this make me angry!!!).
I would like to know which is the difference between the
two nodes (the minors are different).


>From: Hiten Pandya <hitmaster2k@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org
>To: Marco Berizzi <pupilla@hotmail.com>
>CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: block device vs char device
>Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:31:09 -0700 (PDT)
>
>--- Marco Berizzi <pupilla@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Hiten,
> >
> > Thanks for the reply about char & block devices.
> > Now all is much more clean.
>
>No Problem.
>
> > [ ... ]
> >
> > I haven't found anything about the difference
> > between cd0a & cd0c.
> > Any hints?
>
>OK.  Ah my friend, it seems you didnt check the man pages (a very nice
>discovery :-).  For information on 'cd' type devices, look at:
>
>  1) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=cd&apropos=0&sektion=4
>  -- This man page contains information about SCSI CDROM Devices.
>
>  2) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ata&apropos=0&sektion=4
>  -- This man page contains information about ATAPI CDROM Devices.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>   -- Hiten
>
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Marco Berizzi wrote:
> 
> thanks for the patience.
> I have read the man pages you have pointed me
> before writing to the list but they don't
> explain clearly the difference (at least for me).
> Idem the handbook. Sometimes it reports you should
> use cd0c (possibly) and some examples (take a look
> at the SAP installation section) reports cd0a.
> 
> Currently for me it is not clear why should I use
> cd0c and not cd0a to mount a cdrom (or viceversa).
> Both device are working well for me (this make me angry!!!).
> I would like to know which is the difference between the
> two nodes (the minors are different).

cd0a and cd0c are different representations of the disc.  Reading up on
disklabel will give you some clues about this.  The "a" and "c" are
partition numbers, though "c" has special meaning.  cd0a refers to the
first ISO filesystem on the CD.  cd0c refers to the entire disc.  You
should use cd0a for mounting a disc.

There are also the audio-track device nodes: cd0t{1-100).  These aren't
created by default (MAKEDEV all).  You can create them seperately by
saying, `MAKEDEV cd0t`.

> >From: Hiten Pandya <hitmaster2k@yahoo.com>
> >--- Marco Berizzi <pupilla@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Hiten,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply about char & block devices.
> > > Now all is much more clean.
> >
> >No Problem.
> >
> > > [ ... ]
> > >
> > > I haven't found anything about the difference
> > > between cd0a & cd0c.
> > > Any hints?
> >
> >OK.  Ah my friend, it seems you didnt check the man pages (a very nice
> >discovery :-).  For information on 'cd' type devices, look at:
> >
> >  1) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=cd&apropos=0&sektion=4
> >  -- This man page contains information about SCSI CDROM Devices.
> >
> >  2) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ata&apropos=0&sektion=4
> >  -- This man page contains information about ATAPI CDROM Devices.
> >
> >Hope this helps.

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Thanks for the reply.
Now it's much more cleaner. So the correct
device to use is cd*a (or acd*a).

>From: Darren Pilgrim <dmp@pantherdragon.org>
>To: Marco Berizzi <pupilla@hotmail.com>
>CC: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: block device vs char device
>Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:04:18 -0700
>
>Marco Berizzi wrote:
> >
> > thanks for the patience.
> > I have read the man pages you have pointed me
> > before writing to the list but they don't
> > explain clearly the difference (at least for me).
> > Idem the handbook. Sometimes it reports you should
> > use cd0c (possibly) and some examples (take a look
> > at the SAP installation section) reports cd0a.
> >
> > Currently for me it is not clear why should I use
> > cd0c and not cd0a to mount a cdrom (or viceversa).
> > Both device are working well for me (this make me angry!!!).
> > I would like to know which is the difference between the
> > two nodes (the minors are different).
>
>cd0a and cd0c are different representations of the disc.  Reading up on
>disklabel will give you some clues about this.  The "a" and "c" are
>partition numbers, though "c" has special meaning.  cd0a refers to the
>first ISO filesystem on the CD.  cd0c refers to the entire disc.  You
>should use cd0a for mounting a disc.
>
>There are also the audio-track device nodes: cd0t{1-100).  These aren't
>created by default (MAKEDEV all).  You can create them seperately by
>saying, `MAKEDEV cd0t`.
>
> > >From: Hiten Pandya <hitmaster2k@yahoo.com>
> > >--- Marco Berizzi <pupilla@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Hiten,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the reply about char & block devices.
> > > > Now all is much more clean.
> > >
> > >No Problem.
> > >
> > > > [ ... ]
> > > >
> > > > I haven't found anything about the difference
> > > > between cd0a & cd0c.
> > > > Any hints?
> > >
> > >OK.  Ah my friend, it seems you didnt check the man pages (a very nice
> > >discovery :-).  For information on 'cd' type devices, look at:
> > >
> > >  1) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=cd&apropos=0&sektion=4
> > >  -- This man page contains information about SCSI CDROM Devices.
> > >
> > >  2) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ata&apropos=0&sektion=4
> > >  -- This man page contains information about ATAPI CDROM Devices.
> > >
> > >Hope this helps.




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FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your Personal Computer,
Second Edition 

I havent seen this one yet...has good reviews on amazon.


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0971204519/qid=1027674641/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2_3/102-4165403-2064953

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Someone, quite probably karl agee, once wrote:
>FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your Personal Computer,
>Second Edition 
>
>I havent seen this one yet...has good reviews on amazon.
>
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0971204519/qid=1027674641/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2
>_3/102-4165403-2064953

Yep, even own a copy.  It's a little hit and miss depending on your
level and the software you run (iirc Bash is the only shell it talks
about which considering it's not even part of the base system is a bit
annoying but I guess a lot of people do prefer Bash, especially Linux
converts).

It's not a bad price for a computing book especially as it does come
with an OS and there are far worse things to spend your money on.
Because of it's size it does make for a pretty handy book to have near
your machine for those things you don't do very often and/or stand to
read another man page about.

http://www.bsdtoday.com/2001/December/Features612.html

Kevin
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> I havent seen this one yet...has good reviews on amazon.
> 
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0971204519/qid=1027674641/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2_3/102-4165403-2064953

I've never seen an author to review its own book and give 5 stars itself.






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Is there an easy way to uninstall FreeBSD?  I've looked in the docs but
can't find anything.

(I'm thinking of trying IIS (please don't shoot me haha) since I don't
have any Unix experience, or the time to figure it out.)
 
Thx!
Christy
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Put in a Windows CD and reboot. In about 20 minutes or so and a few
questions later, you'll have IIS.

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Is there an easy way to uninstall FreeBSD?  I've looked in the docs but
can't find anything.

(I'm thinking of trying IIS (please don't shoot me haha) since I don't
have any Unix experience, or the time to figure it out.)

Thx!
Christy
:)




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> From: "Christy Roberts" <christy@genesis.mun.ca>
> To: <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org>
> Subject: uninstalling FreeBSD
> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:51:17 -0230
> 
> Is there an easy way to uninstall FreeBSD?  I've looked in the docs but
> can't find anything.
> 
> (I'm thinking of trying IIS (please don't shoot me haha) since I don't
> have any Unix experience, or the time to figure it out.)

    you can uninstall FreeBSD just like you usually uninstall Windows.

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as a ex linux user -

 how to install a laserjet in my network on 4.6 with cups ??
writing in which config files ??
or is their another way ??
maximilian sichart


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Hello Christy

> > From: "Christy Roberts" <christy@genesis.mun.ca>
> > To: <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org>
> > Subject: uninstalling FreeBSD
> > Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:51:17 -0230
> > 
> > Is there an easy way to uninstall FreeBSD?  I've looked in the docs but
> > can't find anything.
> > 
> > (I'm thinking of trying IIS (please don't shoot me haha) since I don't
> > have any Unix experience, or the time to figure it out.)
> 
>     you can uninstall FreeBSD just like you usually uninstall Windows.
> 
> -- 
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Just because you cant figure out  freebsd  yet doesn't mean you have to
go with IIS. There's  a version of Apache for Windows now, so maybe 
when you've got the hang of that you can come back to fbsd.

http://www.apache.org/
http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/

Jean-Mark
jeanm_@_dupx.freeserve.co.uk  (anti-spam - remove the _)

Q. What do you get when you cross a mobster with an international
computer standard ?
A. An offer  you cant  understand !

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maximilian sichart wrote:
> 
> as a ex linux user -
> 
>  how to install a laserjet in my network on 4.6 with cups ??

CUPS is a specific software package not included in the base FreeBSD.
While there may be people on freebsd-questions who could help you out,
you'll get far better results if you go to the tech support forum that
exists specifically for CUPS: the cups.* news hierarchy.  You can ask
your admin to start carrying cups.* (5 groups, not much traffic), if
it's not already carried.  You can also get on deja or use cups.org's
web interface at http://www.cups.org/newsgroups.php

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Hi,
 
Does anyone happen to know of any good
step-by-step instructions for setting up postfix on FreeBSD?
 
I've been searching and haven't really found much.
 
Thanks
 
Joe
 

  
  
  
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On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 06:07:37PM -0400, Warner Joseph wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> Does anyone happen to know of any good
> step-by-step instructions for setting up postfix on FreeBSD?
>  
> I've been searching and haven't really found much.

Have a look at :

http://www.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb/postfix/

Gr,


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The documentation that comes with Postfix is very well written to help 
you get Postfix up and running. The website is also a great resource. 
There is now a Postfix book published by SAMS Publishing 
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:44:38 -0700
Karl Agee <kdagee@attglobal.net> wrote:

> Looking for resource(s) other than the handbook for setting up a simple 
> dial-up keep-the-bad-guys-out firewall for freebsd.  Cookbooks are fine...

Look for the article "dial-up-firewall". If you have the document tree installed it's in /usr/share/doc/en/articles; and it's probably on www.freebsd.org as well.

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The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical 
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to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people
know what's available on the website.  Before you post a question
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and/or The FreeBSD Diary <http://freebsddiary.org/>. 

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25-Jul : I'm looking for a job
     Do you have any work?
     http://freebsddiary.org/jobs.php?2

22-Jul : Installing and configuring Phorum using cvs
     Using Phorum on multiple website with different looks
     http://freebsddiary.org/phorum-cvs.php?2


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On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Dan Langille wrote:
> The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical
> examples and how-to guides.  This message is posted weekly
> to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people
> know what's available on the website.  Before you post a question
> here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list
> archives <http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists>
> and/or The FreeBSD Diary <http://freebsddiary.org/>.
>
> These are the articles posted during this period:
>
> 25-Jul : I'm looking for a job
>      Do you have any work?
>      http://freebsddiary.org/jobs.php?2

Monster.Com only lists 24 jobs matching "freebsd" nationwide :(
http://jobsearch.monster.com/jobsearch.asp?cy=US&re=14&brd=1&lid=&q=freebsd&sort=rv&vw=b

> 22-Jul : Installing and configuring Phorum using cvs
>      Using Phorum on multiple website with different looks
>      http://freebsddiary.org/phorum-cvs.php?2
> --
> Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited
> The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples
> FreshPorts        - http://freshports.org/   - the place for ports

Wish I could help you out ;)

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