From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 6: 4:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9ED37B406; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 06:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.com.br (200-205-210-34.dial-up.telesp.net.br [200.205.210.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED3CF43E70; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 06:03:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ) From: "Portal de Clientes" Subject: Contato Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 20:56:02 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C23B30.328BFFE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Unsent: 1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-Id: <20020804130343.ED3CF43E70@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C23B30.328BFFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 23:01:56 +0800 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020804150236.3CC4543E5E@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 8:24:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D4A37B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-2.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F2643E42 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ketanu@wanadoo.fr) Received: from mel-rta9.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.69) by mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D49FBEC000D9373 for newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:24:45 +0200 Received: from ketanu.dyndns.org (80.14.10.196) by mel-rta9.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D49FFB7000D2F3B for newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:24:45 +0200 Received: from ketanu.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ketanu.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g74FPt5f001185 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:25:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ketanu@wanadoo.fr) Received: (from michael@localhost) by ketanu.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g74FPs6e001182; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:25:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ketanu@wanadoo.fr) X-Authentication-Warning: ketanu.dyndns.org: michael set sender to ketanu@wanadoo.fr using -f To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading by ports or packages [pkg_fetch][portupgrade] References: <878z3o1y7b.fsf@ketanu.dyndns.org> <200208040839.50338.scott@bsdprophet.org> From: Ketanu Organization: (none) Date: 04 Aug 2002 17:25:54 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200208040839.50338.scott@bsdprophet.org> Message-ID: <878z3mzlvh.fsf@ketanu.dyndns.org> Lines: 37 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scott Corey writes: > try man portupgrade. > > On Friday 02 August 2002 09:19 pm, Ketanu wrote: > > I was told by a friend that `portupgrade' could be configured so that it > > automatically choose between packages and ports when upgrading, e.g. i want > > to say it `upgrade general software with packages when available' and > > `upgrade some specific software with ports and a specific configuration' so > > that i can have some software (such as the ion window manager) home compiled > > with some patches that are not in package distribution, or some (such as > > pari-gp and scilab which are scientific calculous) home compiled to take > > advantage of some host-specific capabilities. [...] Well, i have read it many times, and what i understand is that it does not what i said, also i will try to say it better. I was told it was possible to tell portupgrade : i want you to build home-made packages from sources when upgrading XFree, for ocaml, for scilab and pari, i want you to use premade packages when upgrading everything else. Now i say do the upgrade (with recursion options, to preserve coherence between versions of installed software) and portupgrade will obey. A simplistic approach is to have a script with portupgrade ocaml XFree86 pari portupgrade -a -PP but it does not preserve coherence between software versions while upgrading, and it is not possible to do a binary fetch before the upgrade (it is possible but unwanted packages for ocaml XFree86 and pari will be downloaded). -- Ketanu - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x20D90C12 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 8:42:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C24837B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mel-rto6.wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-6.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5AA43E42 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:42:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ketanu@wanadoo.fr) Received: from mel-rta9.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.69) by mel-rto6.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D49FD97000DAA33 for newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:42:04 +0200 Received: from ketanu.dyndns.org (80.14.10.196) by mel-rta9.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D49FFB7000D42D8 for newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:42:04 +0200 Received: from ketanu.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ketanu.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g74FhE5f001225 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:43:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ketanu@wanadoo.fr) Received: (from michael@localhost) by ketanu.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g74FhD2x001222; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:43:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ketanu@wanadoo.fr) X-Authentication-Warning: ketanu.dyndns.org: michael set sender to ketanu@wanadoo.fr using -f To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail DNS not responding From: Ketanu Organization: (none) Date: 04 Aug 2002 17:43:13 +0200 Message-ID: <874reazl2m.fsf@ketanu.dyndns.org> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sendmail was in mind not to work after i installed it and seemingly adequately configurated, according to some guys i met on the IRC, but could not work, i saw such messages in the log files Aug 4 00:52:00 ketanu sm-msp-queue[364]: g73A4ovb036744: [...] mailer=relay, pri= 1740047, relay=ketanu.dyndns.org., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by ke tanu.dyndns.org. where ketanu.dyndns.org is my host's name. I eventually received some warning mails (from my host's MTA) to tell me about all the mails he could not deliver (all mails i tried to send), and the messages told about DNS. I removed the first line in my `/etc/resolv.conf' file that used to say `search ketanu.dyndns.org' and it had always been here, although i do not understand its function (since i do not now what is a `search list' in name resolution context), and after the removal sendmail works good (after being restarted). I wonder because i ever had this search list on my host and it is the first time i encounter a matter with name resolution. -- Ketanu - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x20D90C12 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 11:29:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098C537B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 11:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69DDB43E6A for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 11:29:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yid@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 6370 invoked by uid 417); 4 Aug 2002 18:29:14 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 4 Aug 2002 18:29:14 -0000 Received: from unknown ([216.194.1.154]) (AUTH: LOGIN yid@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 12:28:53 -0600 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 14:25:25 -0400 From: Joshua Lee To: Peter Leftwich Cc: tinguely@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu, danl@freebsddiary.org, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-07-07 - 2002-07-27 Message-Id: <20020804142525.5c13279f.yid@softhome.net> In-Reply-To: <20020730204706.N10245-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> References: <200207301520.g6UFK6h71756@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> <20020730204706.N10245-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> Organization: Plan B Software Labs X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.0claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Peter Leftwich wrote: > Also, not that I have any clue where money comes from for these projects > but computer stores could sell packets of two (2) floppies, kern.flp and > mfsroot.flp and be labelled "FreeBSD FTP-Install Diskettes for High > Bandwidth Users" or then again maybe not. :( CompUSA used to sell at half price ($50) the FreeBSD Power Pack, which included 10 CDs and Greg Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD". I bought this some time ago, but am currently running a system created by a 4.6 mini-iso with X and other useful programs downloaded from ports and the system tracking -STABLE via cvsup. (Via dialup, not broadband!) I'm thinking of buying the base system CDs or a FreeBSD DVD in the future to help the project and save me some download time... :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 15:19: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3037B37B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 15:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03-gb.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCFB43E75 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 15:19:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p115.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.115]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA46522; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 00:19:04 +0200 Received: from moritz.alleswirdgruener (moritz.alleswirdgruener [10.0.0.4]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g74KWf400815; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 22:32:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 22:32:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgruener To: Ketanu Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gmane and the freebsd mailing lists In-Reply-To: <87heic1yji.fsf@ketanu.dyndns.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Does someone have any idea about the reasons of this ? It is not a good idea to install such an "interface" to maillinglists. H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 17:51:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871F037B400; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd6mq1so.prod.shaw.ca (h24-71-223-10.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FA843E6A; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:51:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desmond.lee@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (h24-71-223-10.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C00KLMIDV4E@l-daemon>; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pd3mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.179]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C00DQ8I7BGE@l-daemon>; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:47:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml4so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.148]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C00J83I7BEZ@l-daemon>; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:47:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wetworks (h24-77-108-85.vc.shawcable.net [24.77.108.85]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with SMTP id <0H0C00AGUI79RI@l-daemon>; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:47:35 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 17:50:57 -0700 From: Desmond Lee Subject: can no longer log into the machine :( To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there I had free bsd 4.4 and was trying to update to 4.6. So, i'm following the instructions of my freebsd book, and got past the 'make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERN' command. Then rebooted the machine and then typed 'cd /usr/src'. Then i tried to execute 'make installworld', but it couldn't execute and said something was wrong with smmsp and to look in the UPDATING file. So i looked into the UPDATING file and looked for smmsp. It gave some suggestions indicating that i have to execute 'megemaster -p'. So that's what i did and i didn't really understand what was going on, but i tried to merge in differences from different files. I then rebooted, and now i can't log into my machine under root or any other user. Can someone please help. I'm totally lost here. Thanks desmond To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 18:27:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2755A37B405; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd2mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (h24-71-223-10.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B76B43E3B; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:27:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desmond.lee@shaw.ca) Received: from pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.178]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C00DLXK04W5@l-daemon>; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml2so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.146]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C00M4XK047E@l-daemon>; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wetworks (h24-77-108-85.vc.shawcable.net [24.77.108.85]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with SMTP id <0H0C008IKJZZRY@l-daemon>; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:29:46 -0700 From: Desmond Lee Subject: To: freebsd-questions , freebsd-newbies Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there I had free bsd 4.4 and was trying to update to 4.6. So, i'm following the instructions of my freebsd book, and got past the 'make kernel KERNCONF=MYKERN' command. Then rebooted the machine and then typed 'cd /usr/src'. Then i tried to execute 'make installworld', but it couldn't execute and said something was wrong with smmsp and to look in the UPDATING file. So i looked into the UPDATING file and looked for smmsp. It gave some suggestions indicating that i have to execute 'megemaster -p'. So that's what i did and i didn't really understand what was going on, but i tried to merge in differences from different files. I then rebooted, and now i can't log into my machine under root or any other user. Can someone please help. I'm totally lost here. Thanks desmond To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 18:34:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E077737B400; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66A643E5E; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:34:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (adsl-65-66-19-30.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net [65.66.19.30]) by pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g751Y6v102162; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:34:06 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Scott Corey To: Desmond Lee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can no longer log into the machine :( Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:34:30 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208042034.31096.scott@bsdprophet.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yup, your totally lost. What you need to do is boot you machine into sing= le=20 user mode. And then when you get the prompt change your password for root= =2E=20 (You changed it when you ran mergemaster and it asked you about the=20 master.passwd file) And before you go any further, I would recommend that= =20 this time you read what it says to do in UPDATING.=20 20020404: Due to the import of sendmail 8.12.2 (see 20020325 entry), a new user and group are required in order for sendmail to run as a set-group-ID binary. A 'make installworld' will use the new user and group to set the owner and group of /var/spool/clientmqueue and will fail if the new user and group do not exist. The 'smmsp= ' user and group must be merged from src/etc/group and src/etc/master.passwd before using 'make installworld'. 'mergemaster -p' will do this. You may need to install mergemaster before this will work if you are updating from a very old version of stable. This can be done with: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster; make all install [clean] 20020325: sendmail 8.12.2 has been imported. The sendmail binary is no longer a set-user-ID root binary and the infrastructure to suppor= t command line mail submission has changed. Be sure to run mergemaster (especially for updating /etc/rc, /etc/defaults/rc.co= nf, and /etc/mail) and read /etc/mail/README for more details. There was a very big debate on freebsd-questions on this very subject. And posting you questions in newbies will NOT get an answer everytime. An= d=20 posting more than once will just piss people off. On Sunday 04 August 2002 07:50 pm, Desmond Lee wrote: > Hi there >=20 > I had free bsd 4.4 and was trying to update to 4.6. So, i'm following t= he > instructions of my freebsd book, and got past the 'make kernel > KERNCONF=3DMYKERN' command. Then rebooted the machine and then typed 'c= d > /usr/src'. Then i tried to execute 'make installworld', but it couldn't > execute and said something was wrong with smmsp and to look in the UPDA= TING > file. >=20 > So i looked into the UPDATING file and looked for smmsp. It gave some > suggestions indicating that i have to execute 'megemaster -p'. So that'= s > what i did and i didn't really understand what was going on, but i trie= d to > merge in differences from different files. >=20 > I then rebooted, and now i can't log into my machine under root or any = other > user. >=20 > Can someone please help. I'm totally lost here. >=20 > Thanks >=20 > desmond >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 18:45:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6A537B400; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spork.pantherdragon.org (spork.pantherdragon.org [206.29.168.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C15F43E6A; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmp@pantherdragon.org) Received: from sparx.pantherdragon.org (evrtwa1-ar10-4-61-252-210.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.61.252.210]) by spork.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E7C471C5; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pantherdragon.org (speck.techno.pagans [172.21.42.2]) by sparx.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B27A923; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 18:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3D4DD8B8.2A8A6768@pantherdragon.org> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 18:45:28 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Desmond Lee Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can no longer log into the machine :( References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Desmond Lee wrote: > > Hi there > > I had free bsd 4.4 and was trying to update to 4.6. So, i'm following the > instructions of my freebsd book, and got past the 'make kernel > KERNCONF=MYKERN' command. Then rebooted the machine and then typed 'cd > /usr/src'. Then i tried to execute 'make installworld', but it couldn't > execute and said something was wrong with smmsp and to look in the UPDATING > file. > > So i looked into the UPDATING file and looked for smmsp. It gave some > suggestions indicating that i have to execute 'megemaster -p'. So that's > what i did and i didn't really understand what was going on, but i tried to > merge in differences from different files. > > I then rebooted, and now i can't log into my machine under root or any other > user. What actions did you take on the for /etc/master.passwd and /etc/group? Did you tell mergemaster to install the new versions or auto-merge the two versions? If you did, (and there is no nice way of putting this), you've hosed /etc/master.passwd and/or /etc/group. If pwd_mkdb (vipw included) hasn't been run yet, and the daily periodic passwd backup script hasn't been run since you did the merge, you should have a backup copy of your original master.passwd in /var/backups. If you don't have a backup copy in /var/backups, you may still be able to rebuild using /etc/passwd and /etc/spwd.db. Always run `mergemaster -p` before buildworld. If mergemaster says there are differences in etc/master.passwd and/or etc/group, then you need to HAND-EDIT these files. ALWAYS hand-edit these files. If you do hand-edit, make sure you updating the CVS tags in those files. If master.passwd gets changed, you need to propagate those changes to the other password files by saying `pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd`. This is the perfect example of why backing up /etc before you even do buildworld is important. It takes just a few seconds and a single command: `tar -cf /root/etc_backup.tar -C /etc .` To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 19: 3:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD7A37B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (h24-71-223-10.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E58643E6E for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:03:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desmond.lee@shaw.ca) Received: from pd6mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd6mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.217]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C002BDLMLYC@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:01:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml3so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml3so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.147]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C00AA6LMFND@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:01:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wetworks (h24-77-108-85.vc.shawcable.net [24.77.108.85]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.6 (built Apr 26 2002)) with SMTP id <0H0C00985LMDBN@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:01:33 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:04:48 -0700 From: Desmond Lee Subject: RE: can no longer log into the machine :( In-reply-to: <200208042034.31096.scott@bsdprophet.org> To: Scott Corey , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi scott Thanks for your reply. Sorry about the posting more than once, i didn't have a subject heading in the last message. How do you log into the system in single user mode? In this book i'm using it says to reboot the machine and then press spacebar to interrupt the reboot and then type 'kernel -s', but pressing spacebar during reboot does nothing. Also, once in the single user mode how to you change the password for root? From the info that you've kindly provided below, do i then use mergemaster to merge in changes from /usr/src/etc/group /usr/src/etc/master.passwd to /etc/group /etc/mater.passwd And then i should use mergemaster to merge changes from /usr/src/etc/rc /usr/src/etc/defaults/rc.conf /usr/src/etc/mail to /etc/rc /etc/defaults/rc.conf /etc/mail Then after that i should run the 'make installworld' in the /usr/src directory? Um... i'm not really sure what to do because i've blindly run the mergemaster without thinking and thus the files in the /etc directory are all messed up now. Do you have any suggestions as to how i proceed. I didn't back up the etc files before doign the mergemaster because i didn't know what it really did untill too late. Thanks a lot for your help and patience, and sorry about posting the help request more than once. regards Desmond -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Scott Corey Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:35 PM To: Desmond Lee; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can no longer log into the machine :( Yup, your totally lost. What you need to do is boot you machine into single user mode. And then when you get the prompt change your password for root. (You changed it when you ran mergemaster and it asked you about the master.passwd file) And before you go any further, I would recommend that this time you read what it says to do in UPDATING. 20020404: Due to the import of sendmail 8.12.2 (see 20020325 entry), a new user and group are required in order for sendmail to run as a set-group-ID binary. A 'make installworld' will use the new user and group to set the owner and group of /var/spool/clientmqueue and will fail if the new user and group do not exist. The 'smmsp' user and group must be merged from src/etc/group and src/etc/master.passwd before using 'make installworld'. 'mergemaster -p' will do this. You may need to install mergemaster before this will work if you are updating from a very old version of stable. This can be done with: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster; make all install [clean] 20020325: sendmail 8.12.2 has been imported. The sendmail binary is no longer a set-user-ID root binary and the infrastructure to support command line mail submission has changed. Be sure to run mergemaster (especially for updating /etc/rc, /etc/defaults/rc.conf, and /etc/mail) and read /etc/mail/README for more details. There was a very big debate on freebsd-questions on this very subject. And posting you questions in newbies will NOT get an answer everytime. And posting more than once will just piss people off. On Sunday 04 August 2002 07:50 pm, Desmond Lee wrote: > Hi there > > I had free bsd 4.4 and was trying to update to 4.6. So, i'm following the > instructions of my freebsd book, and got past the 'make kernel > KERNCONF=MYKERN' command. Then rebooted the machine and then typed 'cd > /usr/src'. Then i tried to execute 'make installworld', but it couldn't > execute and said something was wrong with smmsp and to look in the UPDATING > file. > > So i looked into the UPDATING file and looked for smmsp. It gave some > suggestions indicating that i have to execute 'megemaster -p'. So that's > what i did and i didn't really understand what was going on, but i tried to > merge in differences from different files. > > I then rebooted, and now i can't log into my machine under root or any other > user. > > Can someone please help. I'm totally lost here. > > Thanks > > desmond > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 19:15:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE8B37B400; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD98F43E5E; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:15:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27187; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:15:14 -0700 Message-ID: <3D4DDFB1.5010100@owt.com> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:15:13 -0700 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020314 Netscape6/6.2.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, es-mx MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Desmond Lee Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can no longer log into the machine :( References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Desmond Lee wrote: > Hi there > > I had free bsd 4.4 and was trying to update to 4.6. So, i'm following the > instructions of my freebsd book, and got past the 'make kernel > KERNCONF=MYKERN' command. Then rebooted the machine and then typed 'cd > /usr/src'. Then i tried to execute 'make installworld', but it couldn't > execute and said something was wrong with smmsp and to look in the UPDATING > file. > > So i looked into the UPDATING file and looked for smmsp. It gave some > suggestions indicating that i have to execute 'megemaster -p'. So that's > what i did and i didn't really understand what was going on, but i tried to > merge in differences from different files. > > I then rebooted, and now i can't log into my machine under root or any other > user. > > Can someone please help. I'm totally lost here. You can always change the password from single user mode. The section in the Handbook on you have forgotten your password applies here. The section is 10.14. I have forgotten the root password! What do I do? Do not Panic! Simply restart the system, type boot -s at the Boot: prompt (just -s for FreeBSD releases before 3.2) to enter Single User mode. At the question about the shell to use, hit ENTER. You will be dropped to a # prompt. Enter mount -u / to remount your root filesystem read/write, then run mount -a to remount all the filesystems. Run passwd root to change the root password then run exit(1) to continue booting. Then, next time you run mergemaster, don't let it touch your master.passwd or group with out thinking about what it will do to you. You have already seen that and once is enough :). Kent > > Thanks > > desmond > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > . > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 19:16:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C1F37B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd6mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (h24-71-223-10.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260A743E4A for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:15:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desmond.lee@shaw.ca) Received: from pd4mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.214]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C004AAM9USU@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml8so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml8so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.152]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.6 (built Apr 26 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C00L1JMALVA@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:15:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wetworks (h24-77-108-85.vc.shawcable.net [24.77.108.85]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with SMTP id <0H0C003SUMAJNF@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:15:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:19:18 -0700 From: Desmond Lee Subject: RE: can no longer log into the machine :( In-reply-to: <3D4DD8B8.2A8A6768@pantherdragon.org> To: Darren Pilgrim Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Darren Thanks for your reply. Yes, i think you're right. I've messed up the /etc/master.passwd and /etc/group files. I haven't run pwd_mkdb command yet, so i'll look in the /var/backups for the original master.passwd so that i can copy it back into the /etc/ directory. What do you mean when you say: " you may still be able to rebuild using /etc/passwd and /etc/spwd.db." How can i rebuild using the files mentioned above? I'm not sure what you mean when you say: "make sure you updating the CVS tags in those files. If master.passwd gets changed, you need to propagate those changes to the other password files by saying `pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd`" yes,... i know that backing up is important, i didn't know that you should run 'mergemaster -p' before you execute buildworld. The book i was reffering to didn't mention mergemaster untill after doing the 'make installworld' in the next section of the chapter. Some of the things you can't really learn from a book, you have to actual go out there and do it :( Anyways, i can't even log into the machine right now so i can't even try what you told me to do... do you have any suggestions? Also, is there any way i can resotre all the files from my /etc/ dir? Are the orignial /etc/* files in /var/backups so that i can just copy them back to /etc/? Thanks for your help and patience. Desmond To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 19:28:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBC437B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.g.bonet.se (mail.gbg.bonet.se [212.181.52.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE2D43E42 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:28:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joakim.andersson@tripnet.se) Received: from GURU (as8-6-8.hn.g.bonet.se [194.236.145.143]) by mail.g.bonet.se (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g752QpUI068060 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 04:26:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from joakim.andersson@tripnet.se) Message-ID: <007d01c23c27$bc8a5a50$8f91ecc2@GURU> From: "Jocke Andersson" To: References: Subject: Problem with installing linux_base Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 04:28:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello everyone! I don't know if it's only me in the whole wide world who got this error when trying to install linux_base on FreeBSD 4.6, but as far I searched the net and asked on irc noone knows, so I give it a try here at the maillist too. When doing a make install I get this error: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ===> gettext-0.11.4 depends on shared library: expat.3 - not found ===> Verifying install for expat.3 in /usr/ports/textproc/expat2 ===> Returning to build of gettext-0.11.4 Error: shared library "expat.3" does not exist *** Error code 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- And if I do a pkg_info on expat it sais: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- pkg_info | grep -i expat expat-1.95.2 XML 1.0 parser written in C ---------------------------------------------------------------------- What have I done wrong .. why doesn't it find this lib? Thanks in advance Jocke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 19:38:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9C037B405 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd5mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (h24-71-223-10.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CB443E65 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:38:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desmond.lee@shaw.ca) Received: from pd6mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd6mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.219]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C00FM6NBMRD@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:38:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml4so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml4so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.148]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C00L2INAOKH@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:37:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wetworks (h24-77-108-85.vc.shawcable.net [24.77.108.85]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with SMTP id <0H0C00BHPNBJUV@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:38:10 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:41:30 -0700 From: Desmond Lee Subject: RE: can no longer log into the machine :( In-reply-to: <3D4DDFB1.5010100@owt.com> To: Kent Stewart Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks kent Just wondering, i'm assuming that you are referring to the free bsd handbook, but i can't seem to find a section 10.14 in the online version: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html. Are you looking at a newer more upto date version of the handbook or am i just not looking hard enough? I've tried your instrcutions, but when i run 'passwd root' it says 'passwd: unknown user root'. I guess i really messed up some files. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks for everything Desmond You can always change the password from single user mode. The section in the Handbook on you have forgotten your password applies here. The section is 10.14. I have forgotten the root password! What do I do? Do not Panic! Simply restart the system, type boot -s at the Boot: prompt (just -s for FreeBSD releases before 3.2) to enter Single User mode. At the question about the shell to use, hit ENTER. You will be dropped to a # prompt. Enter mount -u / to remount your root filesystem read/write, then run mount -a to remount all the filesystems. Run passwd root to change the root password then run exit(1) to continue booting. Then, next time you run mergemaster, don't let it touch your master.passwd or group with out thinking about what it will do to you. You have already seen that and once is enough :). Kent > > Thanks > > desmond > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > . > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 19:50:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E8337B400; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7278043E42; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:50:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvagnoni@comcast.net) Disposition-notification-to: bvagnoni@comcast.net Received: from system1 (pcp01324700pcs.pwayne01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.17.19]) by mtaout02.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 13 2002)) with SMTP id <0H0C00FF0NV182@mtaout02.icomcast.net>; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 22:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 22:49:48 -0400 From: bvagnoni@comcast.net Subject: FW: Trying To Get My Server To Connect To The Net To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" , freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear All; I'm trying to get the server to connect to the internet. There error message I get when I try and ping my gateway is "ping: send to: host is down" In my host file I have the following: host file 127.0.0.1 localhost.mydomain localhost ipaddresofserver mydomain.myhost myhost ipaddresofserver mydomain.myhost host.conf file hosts bind networks file your-net 127. your-network 255.255.255 subnet1 127.0.1 alais1 subnet2 127.0.2 alais2 rc.conf file #I have 2 Ethernet interfaces though I'm not using this machine as a gateway #The fxp0 is an Intel 82559 built in Ethernet controller #The sf0 is an Adaptec 64 bit 66mhz Ethernet controller in a 64 bit 66mhz slot defaultrouter="mygatewayip" ifconfig_fxp0="inet myipaddress netmask 255.255.255.248" ifconfig_sf0="inet myipaddress netmask 255.255.255.248" inetd_enable="YES" kern_securelevel_enable="NO" linux_enable="YES" moused_enable="YES" nfs_reserverd_port_only="YES" portmap_enable="YES" router_enable="YEs" sendmail_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" resolve.conf domain mydomain nameserver 207.155.183.72 nameserver 206.173.119.72 nameserver 207.228.252.180 I think that's everything that someone will need to help me fix my problem. Both interfaces are up, and I'm able to ping the ipaddresofserver. Also, the log keeps displaying itself at the console prompt, how do I turn that off, it's very annoying. In other words system messages keep coming up, making it very difficult to keep track of what you are typing at the system prompt. Sincerely Brian PS Thanks In advance To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 20:39:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0FD37B400; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd5mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (h24-71-223-10.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C3443E42; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:39:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desmond.lee@shaw.ca) Received: from pd6mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd6mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.216]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C00H7QQ5MT4@l-daemon>; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 21:39:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml6so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.150]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0C00C0KQ50SQ@l-daemon>; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 21:39:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wetworks (h24-77-108-85.vc.shawcable.net [24.77.108.85]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with SMTP id <0H0C00JCYQ5COO@l-daemon>; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 21:39:22 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:42:36 -0700 From: Desmond Lee Subject: root unkown? To: freebsd-questions , freebsd-newbies Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there I can't log into my machine because i hosed the /etc/group and the /etc/master.passwd files while doing an upgrade. Anywho, i'm looking at the freebsd faq , 10.14. I have forgotten the root password! What do I do?, to try and change the root password. But when i do 'passwd root' i get a message like 'passwd: Unkown user root". Can someone please help me :( Thanks Desmond To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 21:37:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273EF37B400; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AF343E70; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:37:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com) Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A775428C37; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 00:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 00:37:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Leftwich X-X-Sender: To: Desmond Lee Cc: FreeBSD LIST , freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: root unkown? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020805003524.C88082-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> Organization: Video2Video Services - http://Www.Video2Video.Com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, Desmond Lee wrote: > Hi there - I can't log into my machine because i hosed the /etc/group and the /etc/master.passwd files while doing an upgrade. > Anywho, i'm looking at the freebsd faq , 10.14. I have forgotten the root password! What do I do?, to try and change the root password. But when i do 'passwd root' i get a message like 'passwd: Unkown user root". > Can someone please help me :( > Thanks > Desmond Can't you just boot up to kern.flp and mfsroot.flp floppies and start a Fixit or Holographic shell, then mount whichever HD partition to fix this? Makes you kind of wish that mount was passwordable -- and that the entire filesystem were encrypted in real-time! -- Peter Leftwich President & Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 4 21:57:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E68437B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4CD43E6A for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:57:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02741; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:57:36 -0700 Message-ID: <3D4E05BF.5070602@owt.com> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 21:57:35 -0700 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020314 Netscape6/6.2.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, es-mx MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Desmond Lee Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can no longer log into the machine :( References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Desmond Lee wrote: > Thanks kent > > Just wondering, i'm assuming that you are referring to the free bsd > handbook, but i can't seem to find a section 10.14 in the online version: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html. Are > you looking at a newer more upto date version of the handbook or am i just > not looking hard enough? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW > > I've tried your instrcutions, but when i run 'passwd root' it says 'passwd: > unknown user root'. I guess i really messed up some files. Do you have any > suggestions? hehehe. Murphy sure touched your shoulder today. Look at coral# locate master.passwd /etc/master.passwd /etc/upgrade/master.passwd /usr/src/etc/master.passwd One of them has to exist and you could copy it into /etc. Then run vipw and change an unimportant letter that isn't a password. Kent > > Thanks for everything > > Desmond > > > You can always change the password from single user mode. The section > in the Handbook on you have forgotten your password applies here. The > section is > > 10.14. I have forgotten the root password! What do I do? > > Do not Panic! Simply restart the system, type boot -s at the Boot: > prompt (just -s for FreeBSD releases before 3.2) to enter Single User > mode. At the question about the shell to use, hit ENTER. You will be > dropped to a # prompt. Enter mount -u / to remount your root > filesystem read/write, then run mount -a to remount all the > filesystems. Run passwd root to change the root password then run > exit(1) to continue booting. > > > Then, next time you run mergemaster, don't let it touch your > master.passwd or group with out thinking about what it will do to you. > You have already seen that and once is enough :). > > Kent > > > >>Thanks >> >>desmond >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> >>. >> >> >> > > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > . > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 5 1:52: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E4237B405 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 01:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03-gb.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB7943E3B for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 01:52:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p162.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.162]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA63946; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:52:01 +0200 Received: from moritz.alleswirdgruener (moritz.alleswirdgruener [10.0.0.4]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g758EGI00810; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:14:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:14:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgruener To: Jocke Andersson Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with installing linux_base In-Reply-To: <007d01c23c27$bc8a5a50$8f91ecc2@GURU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > ===> Returning to build of gettext-0.11.4 > Error: shared library "expat.3" does not exist > *** Error code 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > And if I do a pkg_info on expat it sais: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > pkg_info | grep -i expat > expat-1.95.2 XML 1.0 parser written in C > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > What have I done wrong .. why doesn't it find this lib? I get a similar error when building graphics/mpeg4ip with SDL. Why dont you just use the linux_base package ? H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 5 4:15:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8041537B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 04:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spork.pantherdragon.org (spork.pantherdragon.org [206.29.168.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88D843E4A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 04:15:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmp@pantherdragon.org) Received: from sparx.pantherdragon.org (evrtwa1-ar10-4-61-252-210.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.61.252.210]) by spork.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7586FFDBB; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 04:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pantherdragon.org (speck.techno.pagans [172.21.42.2]) by sparx.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFD8A910; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 04:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3D4E5E63.A016CD71@pantherdragon.org> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 04:15:47 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Desmond Lee Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can no longer log into the machine :( References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Desmond Lee wrote: > > Hi Darren > > Thanks for your reply. > > Yes, i think you're right. I've messed up the /etc/master.passwd and > /etc/group files. > > I haven't run pwd_mkdb command yet, so i'll look in the /var/backups for the > original master.passwd so that i can copy it back into the /etc/ directory. > What do you mean when you say: > " you may still be able to rebuild using /etc/passwd and /etc/spwd.db." > How can i rebuild using the files mentioned above? /etc/passwd contains a copy of master.passwd, with * in place of the password hashes. spwd.db is a BDB hash of master.passwd. The idea is to copy /etc/passwd to master.passwd, then use a hex editor to look at the contents of spwd.db and copy the hashes back into the new master.passwd file. You can probably find a script to "unhash" spwd.db for you. > I'm not sure what you mean when you say: > "make sure you updating the CVS tags in those files. If master.passwd gets > changed, you need to propagate those changes to the other password files by > saying `pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd`" That was two seperate thoughts. I didn't format my email well. CVS tags are those lines in text files that look like this: # $FreeBSD: src/etc/master.passwd,v 1.25.2.6 2002/06/30 17:57:17 des Exp $ mergemaster scan and compares these lines first. If the live CVS tag matches that of its new counterpart, mergemaster assumes the files are the same and skips over it. If you don't update these lines when you hand-merge files, then the next time you run mergemaster, it will tell you that your file is still out of date when it probably isn't. > yes,... i know that backing up is important, i didn't know that you should > run 'mergemaster -p' before you execute buildworld. The book i was reffering > to didn't mention mergemaster untill after doing the 'make installworld' in > the next section of the chapter. Some of the things you can't really learn > from a book, you have to actual go out there and do it :( That's the post-build mergemaster, which is different. Running `mergermaster -p` causes mergemaster to compare just those files that must be up to date in order for the make world process to suceed. From mergemaster(8): -p Pre-buildworld mode. Compares only files known to be essen- tial to the success of {build|install}world, including /etc/make.conf. Running `mergemaster` will build a full temproot tree and go through whole set of files. Even if you do `mergemaster -p` before the build, you still need to do this after installworld. > Anyways, i can't even log into the machine right now so i can't even try > what you told me to do... do you have any suggestions? Use the console and boot to single-user mode. This will bypass logins entirely, unless you editted /etc/ttys and changed the console line from "secure" to "insecure". > Also, is there any way i can resotre all the files from my /etc/ dir? If you wiped out your entire /etc, you can get back the as-installed files in multiple ways. The fastest and easiest is to get them from CD set's live filesystem CD using a tar | tar command. Another relatively simple way is to use CVS. The /etc files are the src-etc collection. /etc/sshd/{ssh,sshd}_config are part of src-crypto. You were coming up from 4.3-R, right? You can pull down the specific 4.3-R source tree by specifying tag=RELENG_4_3_0_RELEASE in your supfile. > Are > the orignial /etc/* files in /var/backups so that i can just copy them back > to /etc/? No, just the really important ones. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 5 4:19: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909DE37B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 04:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.g.bonet.se (mail.gbg.bonet.se [212.181.52.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2822E43E65 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 04:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joakim.andersson@tripnet.se) Received: from GURU (as8-6-8.hn.g.bonet.se [194.236.145.143]) by mail.g.bonet.se (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g75BHgUI089926; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:17:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from joakim.andersson@tripnet.se) Message-ID: <001401c23c71$e6f06380$8f91ecc2@GURU> From: "Jocke Andersson" To: "Heiko Recktenwald" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Problem with installing linux_base Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:18:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > I get a similar error when building graphics/mpeg4ip with SDL. > > Why dont you just use the linux_base package ? > > > H. 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your chosen account the sum of fifty million United State Dollars
S$50,000,000.00) only from one of my late husband’s secret Treasure
which he operated in OverSeas during the period he
was in office outside Nigeria. 

The reason to get this money transferred into another Foreign account
is because since my husband’s death,the present democratically
elected government has secretly investigated, frozen all our foreign
accounts and started probing my late husband’s activities and wealth.
On the other hand,Mohammed my son is also being detained together
with some of my husband’s aides, by the government as you read
through the print media or the cable network. In view of this
development, myself,in agreement with my children, have consulted our
family Attorney, who advised that we should move the fund without
delay before the government could discover it. 

He also agreed and promised to handle all modalities regarding to the
movement of the Fund.

Our attorney and I after much deliberation with my
family duly resolved that you will have 20% of the
total sum and all your telephone bills and traveling expenses in the
process of opening accounts if you don’t have any good ones now, and
other assistance rendered will duly calculated and refunded to you as
soon as the fund is received at your end. All we require from you is
utmost sincerity and co-operation to enable us transfer
this fund.

When this money is transfered to your end, survey properly a very
good investment where we could channel it, that is into a good
business that will yield profit.

Note that all correspondence relating to this issue
should be directed to our family Attorney whom I have given power of
attorney to handle this transaction due to security reasons, since I
have been kept under house arrest and bound from traveling out of the
country by the government until the probe is over.

If you can assist towards this, I will give you his private e-mail
address and telephone number so that he can call you and finalise
with you. Please have mercy upon those in distress be your brother’s
keeper and save our soul.
The Almighty Allah the most merciful will bless you abundantly
protect your family for helping and assisting me in time of great
need. 

Please remember to include your telephone and fax numbers in your
reply to me.

Thank you,

Mrs.Mariam Abacha. 





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--i7U2wGPlZnkrjuMnwL1SoHTPZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 5 20:19:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272DD37B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web11308.mail.yahoo.com (web11308.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D683243E4A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:19:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceo326@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20020806031941.50652.qmail@web11308.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [151.204.131.32] by web11308.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 05 Aug 2002 20:19:41 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:19:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceo326 Subject: Help! To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-584074591-1028603981=:50205" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-584074591-1028603981=:50205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Guys, Can you tell me how to create a configuration file for automatic installation under freebsd 4.5. Thank you very much. John --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better --0-584074591-1028603981=:50205 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Hi Guys, Can you tell me how to create a configuration file

for automatic installation under freebsd 4.5. Thank you

very much.

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Health - Feel better, live better --0-584074591-1028603981=:50205-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 5 20:47:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB9337B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mails.tsinghua.edu.cn (mails.tsinghua.edu.cn [166.111.8.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5259643E4A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:47:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jx01@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn) Received: (eyou send program); Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:45:22 +0800 Received: from unknown (HELO jx) (unknown@166.111.70.100) by 166.111.8.16 with SMTP; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:45:22 +0800 From: "=?GB2312?Q?=BD=F0=F6=CE?=" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: X-mailer: Foxmail 4.2 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="GB2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:48:26 +0800 Message-Id: <20020806034708.5259643E4A@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi freebsd-newbies chinese:=09 =CE=D2=CF=EB=CD=A8=B9=FDftp=B0=B2=D7=B0freebsd,=D3=C3kern.flp=BA=CDmfsroot.flp=C6=F4=B6=AF=D2=D4=BA=F3=A3=AC =B7=D6=C7=F8=A3=AC=D1=A1=D4=F1ftp=C4=BF=C2=BC=A1=A3=CB=F9=D3=D0=B6=BC=C8=B7=C8=CF=D2=D4=BA=F3=D7=DC=B3=F6=CF=D6=A3=BA can't make node /dev/x in /dev. =B8=E3=C1=CB=BA=C3=BE=C3=B6=BC=B8=E3=B2=BB=B6=A8=A3=AC=C7=EB=B8=DF=CA=D6=D6=B8=B5=E3 =D0=BB=D0=BB english: I want to install FreeBSD 4.5 from ftp. I boot through kern.flp and mfsroot.flp,setup,and choose the ftp site. But when all these job finished, the system always remind me= that "Can't make node /dev/x in /dev". i don't know how to do ? thank you very much =09=09=09=09 =A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1jx01@mails.tsinghua.edu.cn =A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A1=A12002-08-06 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 6 3:12:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2A537B400 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 03:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.g.bonet.se (mail.gbg.bonet.se [212.181.52.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E7543E81 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 03:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joakim.andersson@tripnet.se) Received: from GURU (as8-6-8.hn.g.bonet.se [194.236.145.143]) by mail.g.bonet.se (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g76ABJT2017985; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:11:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from joakim.andersson@tripnet.se) Message-ID: <001601c23d31$cdcb74b0$8f91ecc2@GURU> From: "Jocke Andersson" To: "=?GB2312?B?vfD2zg==?=" Cc: References: <20020806034708.5259643E4A@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:12:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="GB2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got this to when making more than 5 partions on the same HDD. To correct this error I had to make one(1) partion and then Label it five time and allocate space. I don't know what the diffrence is really, in win enviroment there is only partioning, and im new to freebsd but it works this way so im not complaining. :) Cheers J! ----- Original Message ----- From: "½ðöÎ" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 5:48 AM hi freebsd-newbies chinese: ÎÒÏëͨ¹ýftp°²×°freebsd,ÓÃkern.flpºÍmfsroot.flpÆô¶¯ÒÔºó£¬ ·ÖÇø£¬Ñ¡ÔñftpĿ¼¡£ËùÓж¼È·ÈÏÒÔºó×ܳöÏÖ£º can't make node /dev/x in /dev. ¸ãÁ˺þö¼¸ã²»¶¨£¬Çë¸ßÊÖÖ¸µã лл english: I want to install FreeBSD 4.5 from ftp. I boot through kern.flp and mfsroot.flp,setup,and choose the ftp site. 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AGOGO KOBE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 6 12:45:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F2537B400 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web11301.mail.yahoo.com (web11301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20DF643E3B for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceo326@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20020806194523.75051.qmail@web11301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.85.54] by web11301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:45:23 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:45:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceo326 Subject: help To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-361237931-1028663123=:74138" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-361237931-1028663123=:74138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Does anyone know how to create a configuration file for automatic iinstallation under freebsd 4.5 Thanks John --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? 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Hi Does anyone know how to create a configuration

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<= /FONT> ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C23DAB.4B661B40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 6 14:33: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C154B37B400 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE4743E4A for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:32:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 6 Aug 2002 22:32:56 +0100 Received: from lexx (unverified [62.31.198.203]) by pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 22:32:56 +0100 From: John Murphy To: Ceo326 Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help! Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 22:32:55 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: References: <20020806031941.50652.qmail@web11308.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020806031941.50652.qmail@web11308.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ceo326 wrote: >Hi Guys, Can you tell me how to create a configuration file >for automatic installation under freebsd 4.5. Thank you I wonder why you think you need a configuration file. FreeBSD is an operating system so if that's what you wish to install then, as with all (AFAIK) OS installs, YOU'll have to answer some questions. Sorry if I completely misunderstood the question. John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 6 14:49:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD18A37B400 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73FBA43E6A for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:49:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DocValde@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 6035 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 2002 21:49:32 -0000 Received: from pd9e24bfa.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO 192.168.0.2) (217.226.75.250) by mail.gmx.net (mp018-rz3) with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 21:49:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:49:34 +0200 From: DocValde X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: DocValde X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <69215380406.20020806234934@gmx.de> To: John Murphy Cc: Ceo326 , newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Help! In-Reply-To: References: <20020806031941.50652.qmail@web11308.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hallo John Murphy, am Dienstag, 6. August 2002 um 23:32:55 schrieben Sie: JM> Ceo326 wrote: >>Hi Guys, Can you tell me how to create a configuration file >>for automatic installation under freebsd 4.5. Thank you JM> I wonder why you think you need a configuration file. JM> FreeBSD is an operating system so if that's what you wish to install then, JM> as with all (AFAIK) OS installs, YOU'll have to answer some questions. JM> Sorry if I completely misunderstood the question. JM> John. JM> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org JM> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Under the undisclosed operating-system-like "thing" from Redmond it is possible to do a completely automated install, with all parameters like CD-key[tm], network parameters, host name, workgourp or domain set up before the installation. One can create such a sample cd a run this installation without user interaction. This is the way i understand the question. 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TO ORDER OR FOR MORE DETAILS PLEASE CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW http://www.dvdcopypro.com/s.cgi?index-1047 TO BE REMOVED FROM THIS MAILING PLEASE SEND A BLANK EMAIL TO DELETE572000@YAHOO.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 7 0:21:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CB537B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 72oot.net (72oot.net [216.122.237.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C798943E42 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:21:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freedom@72oot.net) Received: from 72oot.net (12-228-92-182.client.attbi.com [12.228.92.182]) by 72oot.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g777LHP21518; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 07:21:17 GMT (envelope-from freedom@72oot.net) Message-ID: <3D50681E.50805@72oot.net> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 00:21:50 +0000 From: Ryan Merrick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc3) Gecko/20020703 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceo326 Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help! References: <20020806031941.50652.qmail@web11308.mail.yahoo.com> <69215380406.20020806234934@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DocValde wrote: > Hallo John Murphy, > am Dienstag, 6. August 2002 um 23:32:55 schrieben Sie: > > JM> Ceo326 wrote: > >>>Hi Guys, Can you tell me how to create a configuration file >>>for automatic installation under freebsd 4.5. Thank you >> > > JM> I wonder why you think you need a configuration file. > JM> FreeBSD is an operating system so if that's what you wish to install then, > JM> as with all (AFAIK) OS installs, YOU'll have to answer some questions. > > JM> Sorry if I completely misunderstood the question. > JM> John. > > JM> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > JM> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > Under the undisclosed operating-system-like "thing" from Redmond it is possible > to do a completely automated install, with all parameters like CD-key[tm], > network parameters, host name, workgourp or domain set up before the > installation. One can create such a sample cd a run this installation without > user interaction. > > This is the way i understand the question. > > Regards, > > Malte von dem Hagen. This information is posted on freebsd.org at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 7 5:18:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6795237B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 05:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (smtp-out-2.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6402143E5E for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 05:18:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ketanu@wanadoo.fr) Received: from mel-rta10.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.193) by mel-rto2.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D49FBEC00228948 for newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:48:21 +0200 Received: from ketanu.dyndns.org (80.14.105.110) by mel-rta10.wanadoo.fr (6.5.007) id 3D49FFDD00219D70 for newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:48:21 +0200 Received: from ketanu.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ketanu.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g77BnfN5001174 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:49:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ketanu@wanadoo.fr) Received: (from michael@localhost) by ketanu.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g77Bne36001171; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:49:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ketanu@wanadoo.fr) X-Authentication-Warning: ketanu.dyndns.org: michael set sender to ketanu@wanadoo.fr using -f To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FReeBSD cvs way From: Ketanu Organization: (none) Date: 07 Aug 2002 13:49:40 +0200 Message-ID: <87lm7ilwh7.fsf@ketanu.dyndns.org> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Having installed a cvs repository according to the instructions given in the document "Installing CVS; the FreeBSD way", i would like to use it pn non FreeBSD specific software, that is, not any source file do contain the "$FReeBSD$" keyword, so adding files is tejected by scripts. I am not very attached to the features made available by the CVSROOT/ scripts/files, since i am the only user on my computer, but in the sake of generality i (try to) do everything as if hundreds of users were concerned and using my poor littkle computer, and since i am now learning nex tools, i would like to now how to convince cvs to accept thes files, as `estranger ones' (for which it is not requested to show the $FreeBSD$). -- Ketanu - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x20D90C12 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 7 5:55:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B5037B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 05:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.thundernet.cz (mail.thundernet.cz [62.77.87.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2CF543E42 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 05:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: (qmail 10891 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 12:55:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freepuppy.bellavista.cz) (62.168.44.50) by mail.thundernet.cz with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 12:55:36 -0000 Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2B78738B; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:55:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:55:35 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Ketanu Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FReeBSD cvs way Message-ID: <20020807125535.GL281@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Ketanu , newbies@freebsd.org References: <87lm7ilwh7.fsf@ketanu.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87lm7ilwh7.fsf@ketanu.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > To: newbies@freebsd.org > Subject: FReeBSD cvs way > From: Ketanu > Date: 07 Aug 2002 13:49:40 +0200 > > Having installed a cvs repository according to the instructions given in the > document "Installing CVS; the FreeBSD way", i would like to use it pn non > FreeBSD specific software, that is, not any source file do contain the > "$FReeBSD$" keyword, so adding files is tejected by scripts. > > I am not very attached to the features made available by the CVSROOT/ > scripts/files, since i am the only user on my computer, but in the sake of > generality i (try to) do everything as if hundreds of users were concerned > and using my poor littkle computer, and since i am now learning nex tools, i > would like to now how to convince cvs to accept thes files, as `estranger > ones' (for which it is not requested to show the $FreeBSD$). edit CVSROOT/cfg_local.pm (as IIRC suggested in the article). -- FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 2:54PM up 22:14, 8 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 To Unsubscribe: send 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mxzilla3.xs4all.nl (mxzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E9443E75 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 04:15:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rene@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs2.xs4all.nl (xs2.xs4all.nl [194.109.3.12]) by mxzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g79BFMLT069440 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:15:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from rene@localhost) by xs2.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g79BFM876725 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:15:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rene) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:15:22 +0200 From: rene@xs4all.nl To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Libretto L2/5 + FreeBSD + X-Windows Message-ID: <20020809111522.GB76272@xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I'll be making a long trip on my bike and want to bring a laptop + solarpanel + GPS, to do some mobile computing (mainly using GPS and editing a website). My platform will probably be a Libretto L2/5 with 512M RAM. I'm wondering if it is possible to run selected freebsd apps (x-windows, bash, browser, GPS software) from a ramdisk. However, since i've never stepped into the x-windows world, I'd like to get a basic idea of what email & browsing applications are available, a good feature & stability comparison of window managers, etc, etc. Can you point me to some URLs? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 5: 1:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935B137B405 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 05:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9590243E6A for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 05:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (adsl-65-66-16-88.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net [65.66.16.88]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g79BrVa165120; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:53:31 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Scott Corey To: rene@xs4all.nl, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libretto L2/5 + FreeBSD + X-Windows Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 06:54:16 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 References: <20020809111522.GB76272@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20020809111522.GB76272@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200208090654.16882.scott@bsdprophet.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No problem to just use a ramdisk. For software: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html For window managers: http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ On Friday 09 August 2002 06:15 am, rene@xs4all.nl wrote: > Hi.=20 >=20 > I'll be making a long trip on my bike and want to bring a laptop +=20 solarpanel + > GPS, to do some mobile computing (mainly using GPS and editing a websit= e). >=20 > My platform will probably be a Libretto L2/5 with 512M RAM. >=20 > I'm wondering if it is possible to run selected freebsd apps=20 > (x-windows, bash, browser, GPS software) from a ramdisk. >=20 > However, since i've never stepped into the x-windows world, I'd like to= get=20 a > basic idea of what email & browsing applications are available, a good > feature & stability comparison of window managers, etc, etc. >=20 > Can you point me to some URLs? >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 7:54: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9254F37B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd4mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (h24-71-223-10.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A017243E4A for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desmond.lee@shaw.ca) Received: from pd3mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr1so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.177]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0L00H1501Y2S@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 08:53:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml7so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml7so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.151]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0L001CU01Y3T@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 08:53:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from wetworks (h24-77-108-85.vc.shawcable.net [24.77.108.85]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with SMTP id <0H0L00CCA01SUH@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 08:53:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 07:57:19 -0700 From: Desmond Lee Subject: unsubscribe freebsd-newbies To: freebsd-newbies Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 10: 8:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF38537B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAF743E65 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA84C; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:08:50 -0700 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:01:21 -0700 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-173.acuson.com [157.226.46.173]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id P4SLWQYQ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:01:34 -0700 From: Johnson David To: rene@xs4all.nl, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Acuson Subject: Re: Libretto L2/5 + FreeBSD + X-Windows Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:08:38 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 References: <20020809111522.GB76272@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20020809111522.GB76272@xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200208091008.38155.djohnson@acuson.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday 09 August 2002 04:15 am, rene@xs4all.nl wrote: > I'm wondering if it is possible to run selected freebsd apps > (x-windows, bash, browser, GPS software) from a ramdisk. Will this ramdisk come out of your 512MB, or from a card? If the former, then I would definitely keep things as slim as possible, to the extent that I would not install X at all, and use text mode email and browsers (links, pine, etc). In any case, you will want a small footprint. For a window manager I would choose Blackbox or Windowmaker. For email and browser, I would choose Mozilla since it combines the two into one app. Galeon is small, but it requires a lot of GNOME backend, so It may end up using as much resources as Mozilla. I have no idea about GPS software. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 12: 1:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722BF37B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mediaodyssey.com (mail.mediaodyssey.com [206.168.47.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0929143EA9 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:01:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcatee@mediaodyssey.com) Received: from jim (unverified [206.168.47.39]) by mail.mediaodyssey.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:01:31 -0600 Message-ID: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> From: "Jim McAtee" To: Subject: Using CVSup Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:01:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm attempting to learn how to use CVSup to update my system, including source and ports. When I installed BSD on the test system I'm playing with, I installed no source and no ports at the time. Here's my supfile: *default host=cvsup8.freebsd.org *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default deltee use-rel-suffix *default tag=RELEN_4_6_1_RELEASE src-all *default tag=. ports-all doc-all First question I have (DUMB question): What version do I want to download? I think I understand the difference between STABLE and CURRENT, but I'm unsure of their relationship to RELEASE version tags. If the following tags are the only ones available: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html then how would you update to the latest STABLE? Or would I want to? Second, is there a simple means of constructing a refuse file which will not download non-English versions of anything? Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 12:10:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C2237B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mediaodyssey.com (mail.mediaodyssey.com [206.168.47.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E8943E4A for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcatee@mediaodyssey.com) Received: from jim (unverified [206.168.47.39]) by mail.mediaodyssey.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:10:46 -0600 Message-ID: <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> From: "Jim McAtee" To: References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> Subject: Re: Using CVSup Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:10:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Shoot, I just noticed this at the URL I gave below: ----------------- RELENG_4 The line of development for FreeBSD-4.X, also known as FreeBSD-STABLE. ----------------- So, is -STABLE considered the "latest, safest, bug-fixed" version, or is RELEASE a safer bet? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim McAtee" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:01 PM Subject: Using CVSup > I'm attempting to learn how to use CVSup to update my system, including > source and ports. When I installed BSD on the test system I'm playing with, > I installed no source and no ports at the time. > > Here's my supfile: > > *default host=cvsup8.freebsd.org > *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs > *default deltee use-rel-suffix > *default tag=RELEN_4_6_1_RELEASE > src-all > *default tag=. > ports-all > doc-all > > First question I have (DUMB question): What version do I want to download? > I think I understand the difference between STABLE and CURRENT, but I'm > unsure of their relationship to RELEASE version tags. If the following tags > are the only ones available: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html > > then how would you update to the latest STABLE? Or would I want to? > > Second, is there a simple means of constructing a refuse file which will not > download non-English versions of anything? > > Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 12:21:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223AF37B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgr5.xmission.com (mgr5.xmission.com [198.60.22.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D04343E4A for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:21:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leporter@xmission.com) Received: from [198.60.22.200] (helo=mail.xmission.com) by mgr5.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17dFK5-000152-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 13:21:21 -0600 Received: from dsl231-050-171.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.231.50.171] helo=xmission.com) by mail.xmission.com with asmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 17dFK4-0006xV-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 13:21:20 -0600 Message-ID: <3D54162F.1000502@xmission.com> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 13:21:19 -0600 From: Jason Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020723 MultiZilla/v1.1.20 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using CVSup References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.49.5.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stable has more fixes in it than Release. Release means that it's release quality. They can safely box it and ship it out. Stable has the same base as the Release version but contains fixes and is okay to use on a production server (in theory). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html#AEN27319 For the refuse file, there are also some handy examples in /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup Hope that helps. Jim McAtee wrote: | Shoot, I just noticed this at the URL I gave below: | | ----------------- | RELENG_4 | The line of development for FreeBSD-4.X, also known as FreeBSD-STABLE. | ----------------- | | So, is -STABLE considered the "latest, safest, bug-fixed" version, or is | RELEASE a safer bet? | | Jim | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Jim McAtee" | To: | Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:01 PM | Subject: Using CVSup | | | |>I'm attempting to learn how to use CVSup to update my system, including |>source and ports. When I installed BSD on the test system I'm playing | | with, | |>I installed no source and no ports at the time. |> |>Here's my supfile: |> |>*default host=cvsup8.freebsd.org |>*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup |>*default prefix=/usr |>*default release=cvs |>*default deltee use-rel-suffix |>*default tag=RELEN_4_6_1_RELEASE |>src-all |>*default tag=. |>ports-all |>doc-all |> |>First question I have (DUMB question): What version do I want to download? |>I think I understand the difference between STABLE and CURRENT, but I'm |>unsure of their relationship to RELEASE version tags. If the following | | tags | |>are the only ones available: |> |>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html |> |>then how would you update to the latest STABLE? Or would I want to? |> |>Second, is there a simple means of constructing a refuse file which will | | not | |>download non-English versions of anything? |> |>Jim | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message | | - -- - -Jason Porter "Real programmers are secure enough to write readable code, which they then self-righteously refuse to explain." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE9VBYuYV2rputn/eARAhbGAKCDkfykyUnfH3LcaEIG0F3kYMjr6QCg6MAL Di234zvJHcxVeQ8jcdsp3PQ= =dXsY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 12:22: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E1737B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2D943E70 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:21:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk) Received: from caomhin.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.186]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17dFKf-0005wu-0U; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 20:21:57 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 20:20:42 +0100 To: Jim McAtee Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Kevin Golding Subject: Re: Using CVSup References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> In-Reply-To: <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Someone, quite probably Jim McAtee, once wrote: >Shoot, I just noticed this at the URL I gave below: > >----------------- >RELENG_4 > The line of development for FreeBSD-4.X, also known as FreeBSD-STABLE. >----------------- > >So, is -STABLE considered the "latest, safest, bug-fixed" version, or is >RELEASE a safer bet? It kind of depends on what you're doing with the machine and how confident you feel, along with a whole host of other factors. If you've never rebuilt your system before then a release is probably a better place to start as it's been through more testing. Then if your needs suit start tracking -stable, subscribe to the list and make sure most people can compile and install a system and then try yourself. 98% of the time it will be just like a release upgrade, but they make less promises with -stable. Btw, I tend to have separate supfiles for my ports and src. Basically I just do it because I'm far more likely to want to update my ports than I am the rest of my machine and I always like to make sure that the contents of /usr/src are basically the same as what I have installed. It makes patches easier in certain cases and such. Kevin >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jim McAtee" >To: >Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:01 PM >Subject: Using CVSup > > >> I'm attempting to learn how to use CVSup to update my system, including >> source and ports. When I installed BSD on the test system I'm playing >with, >> I installed no source and no ports at the time. >> >> Here's my supfile: >> >> *default host=cvsup8.freebsd.org >> *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup >> *default prefix=/usr >> *default release=cvs >> *default deltee use-rel-suffix >> *default tag=RELEN_4_6_1_RELEASE >> src-all >> *default tag=. >> ports-all >> doc-all >> >> First question I have (DUMB question): What version do I want to download? >> I think I understand the difference between STABLE and CURRENT, but I'm >> unsure of their relationship to RELEASE version tags. If the following >tags >> are the only ones available: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html >> >> then how would you update to the latest STABLE? Or would I want to? >> >> Second, is there a simple means of constructing a refuse file which will >not >> download non-English versions of anything? >> >> Jim > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 12:47:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539BE37B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mediaodyssey.com (mail.mediaodyssey.com [206.168.47.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B0343E6A for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:47:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcatee@mediaodyssey.com) Received: from jim (unverified [206.168.47.39]) by mail.mediaodyssey.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:47:25 -0600 Message-ID: <01f801c23fdd$96c35060$272fa8ce@jim> From: "Jim McAtee" To: References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> <3D54162F.1000502@xmission.com> Subject: Re: Using CVSup Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:47:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks. For some reason I have no /usr/src/examples directory. I suppose I might have neglected to install examples when I did the initial setup. Can CVSup be used to download the examples directory itself, or will this automatically be a part of the src tree? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Porter" To: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Using CVSup > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Stable has more fixes in it than Release. Release means that it's > release quality. They can safely box it and ship it out. Stable has > the same base as the Release version but contains fixes and is okay to > use on a production server (in theory). > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html#AEN2731 9 > For the refuse file, there are also some handy examples in > /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup Hope that helps. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 12:54: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A86737B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (oe27.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F1E43E72 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:54:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from teleport23r@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:54:05 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [158.252.39.90] From: "frank hagen" To: Subject: Modem Driver Question! Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:53:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_021F_01C23FBC.F9D877F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2002 19:54:05.0542 (UTC) FILETIME=[8457A060:01C23FDE] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_021F_01C23FBC.F9D877F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I am a FreeBSD newbie! I have searched around, but believe no specific = FreeBSD (or general unix) driver exists for my USRobotics/3Com 56k Fax = Win modem, which i use to connect to the internet (in Windows). I would like to be able to use FreeBSD to access internet, but have no = idea what solution there might be other than purchasing an older modem, = for which drivers might exist. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated -Frank ------=_NextPart_000_021F_01C23FBC.F9D877F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I am a FreeBSD newbie! I have searched = around, but=20 believe no specific FreeBSD (or general unix) driver exists for my=20 USRobotics/3Com 56k Fax Win modem, which i use to connect to the = internet (in=20 Windows).
 
I would like to be able to use FreeBSD = to access=20 internet, but have no idea what solution there might be other than = purchasing an=20 older modem, for which drivers might exist.
 
Any suggestions are greatly=20 appreciated
 
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------=_NextPart_000_021F_01C23FBC.F9D877F0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 12:55:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA9837B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spork.pantherdragon.org (spork.pantherdragon.org [206.29.168.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E361643E3B for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:55:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmp@pantherdragon.org) Received: from sparx.pantherdragon.org (evrtwa1-ar10-4-61-252-210.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.61.252.210]) by spork.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6349BFF3D; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pantherdragon.org (speck.techno.pagans [172.21.42.2]) by sparx.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66A3AB04; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3D541E31.C8A0EB52@pantherdragon.org> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 12:55:29 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Porter Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using CVSup References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> <3D54162F.1000502@xmission.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason Porter wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Stable has more fixes in it than Release. Release means that it's > release quality. They can safely box it and ship it out. Stable has > the same base as the Release version but contains fixes and is okay to > use on a production server (in theory). Not true. If you read the Handbook section on -stable, it says in implied huge, red, flashing letters that there is absolutely no guarantee that stable will even compile. Yes, a lot of people use -stable on production servers. I'm one of them. But the tricks to do this safely, the list of gotchas, and the constant list monitoring needed to no screw the machine up is not something I would consider a habit a beginner should be getting into just yet. A happy medium between the RELEASE tags and -STABLE are the RELENG_4_x tags. It's the release (RELENG_4_6 == 4.6) source with all the relevant patches from the SA's applied. I would consider this a safe way to get your feet wet with cvsup and the make world process, as there's very little to trip over with the mergemaster process (perhaps the most dangerous part of the whole deal). > |>Here's my supfile: > |> > |>*default host=cvsup8.freebsd.org > |>*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > |>*default prefix=/usr > |>*default release=cvs > |>*default deltee use-rel-suffix ^^^^^^ should be "delete" > |>*default tag=RELEN_4_6_1_RELEASE ^^^^^ - should be "RELENG" > |>src-all > |>*default tag=. > |>ports-all > |>doc-all Giving more than one value for a default isn't good practice, IMO. Here's how I would have specified it: *default tag=. src-all tag=RELENG_4_6_1_RELEASE doc-all ports-all I'd recommend seperating ports-all into its own supfile and update it only after the new world is installed and working. You really want to have your system as coherent and stable as possible while building and installing the world. When you pull down the ports tree, you can get all kinds of problems that turn into a gang of hungry sharks should you run into problems with the world upgrade and need to majorly rebuild your system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 12:59:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BA137B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mediaodyssey.com (mail.mediaodyssey.com [206.168.47.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931BC43E77 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcatee@mediaodyssey.com) Received: from jim (unverified [206.168.47.39]) by mail.mediaodyssey.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:59:21 -0600 Message-ID: <020a01c23fdf$419a8de0$272fa8ce@jim> From: "Jim McAtee" To: References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> Subject: Re: Using CVSup Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:59:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks, Kevin. I'm beginning to understand a little better. Of the cvsup tags that appear at this URL, what's the difference between those at the top of the page and those below? For example, the difference between RELENG_4_6 AND RELENG_4_6_1_RELEASE? What would be the way of saying "lastest RELEASE", or is it more advisable to know exactly which one you want and explicitly specify it in the supfile? ----------------------------- RELENG_4 The line of development for FreeBSD-4.X, also known as FreeBSD-STABLE. RELENG_4_6 The release branch for FreeBSD-4.6, used only for security advisories and other seriously critical fixes. ... Other revision tags that are available include: RELENG_4_6_1_RELEASE FreeBSD 4.6.1 ... ----------------------------- Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Golding" To: "Jim McAtee" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:20 PM Subject: Re: Using CVSup > Someone, quite probably Jim McAtee, once wrote: > >Shoot, I just noticed this at the URL I gave below: > > > >----------------- > >RELENG_4 > > The line of development for FreeBSD-4.X, also known as FreeBSD-STABLE. > >----------------- > > > >So, is -STABLE considered the "latest, safest, bug-fixed" version, or is > >RELEASE a safer bet? > > It kind of depends on what you're doing with the machine and how > confident you feel, along with a whole host of other factors. > > If you've never rebuilt your system before then a release is probably a > better place to start as it's been through more testing. Then if your > needs suit start tracking -stable, subscribe to the list and make sure > most people can compile and install a system and then try yourself. 98% > of the time it will be just like a release upgrade, but they make less > promises with -stable. > > Btw, I tend to have separate supfiles for my ports and src. Basically I > just do it because I'm far more likely to want to update my ports than I > am the rest of my machine and I always like to make sure that the > contents of /usr/src are basically the same as what I have installed. > It makes patches easier in certain cases and such. > > Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 13:20:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2082437B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mediaodyssey.com (mail.mediaodyssey.com [206.168.47.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36B543E70 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:19:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcatee@mediaodyssey.com) Received: from jim (unverified [206.168.47.39]) by mail.mediaodyssey.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.6) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:19:57 -0600 Message-ID: <023101c23fe2$22b10320$272fa8ce@jim> From: "Jim McAtee" To: References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> <3D54162F.1000502@xmission.com> <3D541E31.C8A0EB52@pantherdragon.org> Subject: Re: Using CVSup Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:19:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Pilgrim" To: "Jason Porter" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Using CVSup > Jason Porter wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Stable has more fixes in it than Release. Release means that it's > > release quality. They can safely box it and ship it out. Stable has > > the same base as the Release version but contains fixes and is okay to > > use on a production server (in theory). > > Not true. If you read the Handbook section on -stable, it says in > implied huge, red, flashing letters that there is absolutely no > guarantee that stable will even compile. > > Yes, a lot of people use -stable on production servers. I'm one of > them. But the tricks to do this safely, the list of gotchas, and the > constant list monitoring needed to no screw the machine up is not > something I would consider a habit a beginner should be getting into > just yet. > > A happy medium between the RELEASE tags and -STABLE are the RELENG_4_x > tags. It's the release (RELENG_4_6 == 4.6) source with all the > relevant patches from the SA's applied. I would consider this a safe > way to get your feet wet with cvsup and the make world process, as > there's very little to trip over with the mergemaster process (perhaps > the most dangerous part of the whole deal). Thanks. I think this may answer my other question regarding the difference between the tags. So, would the tag RELENG_4_6 actually pull the source for 4.6.1 (plus patches) if the latest RLEASE is RELENG_4_6_1_RELEASE? > > |>Here's my supfile: > > |> > > |>*default host=cvsup8.freebsd.org > > |>*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > > |>*default prefix=/usr > > |>*default release=cvs > > |>*default deltee use-rel-suffix > ^^^^^^ should be "delete" > > |>*default tag=RELEN_4_6_1_RELEASE > ^^^^^ - should be "RELENG" > > |>src-all > > |>*default tag=. > > |>ports-all > > |>doc-all > > Giving more than one value for a default isn't good practice, IMO. > Here's how I would have specified it: > > *default tag=. > src-all tag=RELENG_4_6_1_RELEASE > doc-all > ports-all Great, thanks. Sorry about the typos. > I'd recommend seperating ports-all into its own supfile and update it > only after the new world is installed and working. You really want to > have your system as coherent and stable as possible while building and > installing the world. When you pull down the ports tree, you can get > all kinds of problems that turn into a gang of hungry sharks should > you run into problems with the world upgrade and need to majorly > rebuild your system. Ok, will follow this advice and keep them separate. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 14: 2: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B70137B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (oe60.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.148.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DDC43E75 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:02:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian_li@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:02:04 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [12.236.66.209] From: "Brian Li" To: Cc: References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> <3D54162F.1000502@xmission.com> <3D541E31.C8A0EB52@pantherdragon.org> Subject: Re: Using CVSup Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:02:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2002 21:02:04.0027 (UTC) FILETIME=[034F0CB0:01C23FE8] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am new to FreeBSD. I am still confuse with the naming convention. Stable should be more stable than regular release. Howvever, according to the handbook, it seems like it is not the case. Then why call it stable? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Pilgrim" To: "Jason Porter" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:55 PM Subject: Re: Using CVSup > Jason Porter wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Stable has more fixes in it than Release. Release means that it's > > release quality. They can safely box it and ship it out. Stable has > > the same base as the Release version but contains fixes and is okay to > > use on a production server (in theory). > > Not true. If you read the Handbook section on -stable, it says in > implied huge, red, flashing letters that there is absolutely no > guarantee that stable will even compile. > > Yes, a lot of people use -stable on production servers. I'm one of > them. But the tricks to do this safely, the list of gotchas, and the > constant list monitoring needed to no screw the machine up is not > something I would consider a habit a beginner should be getting into > just yet. > > A happy medium between the RELEASE tags and -STABLE are the RELENG_4_x > tags. It's the release (RELENG_4_6 == 4.6) source with all the > relevant patches from the SA's applied. I would consider this a safe > way to get your feet wet with cvsup and the make world process, as > there's very little to trip over with the mergemaster process (perhaps > the most dangerous part of the whole deal). > > > |>Here's my supfile: > > |> > > |>*default host=cvsup8.freebsd.org > > |>*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup > > |>*default prefix=/usr > > |>*default release=cvs > > |>*default deltee use-rel-suffix > ^^^^^^ should be "delete" > > |>*default tag=RELEN_4_6_1_RELEASE > ^^^^^ - should be "RELENG" > > |>src-all > > |>*default tag=. > > |>ports-all > > |>doc-all > > Giving more than one value for a default isn't good practice, IMO. > Here's how I would have specified it: > > *default tag=. > src-all tag=RELENG_4_6_1_RELEASE > doc-all > ports-all > > I'd recommend seperating ports-all into its own supfile and update it > only after the new world is installed and working. You really want to > have your system as coherent and stable as possible while building and > installing the world. When you pull down the ports tree, you can get > all kinds of problems that turn into a gang of hungry sharks should > you run into problems with the world upgrade and need to majorly > rebuild your system. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 14:15:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F3F37B401 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D505043E65 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:15:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lute@cableone.net) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:08:42 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id AF5734D00CA; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:08:42 -0700 Received: from agnes (227-51.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.227.51]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:08:42 -0600 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 16:10:58 -0500 From: Lute Mullenix To: "frank hagen" Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modem Driver Question! Message-Id: <20020809161058.1200ca14.lute@cableone.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: agnes X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: lute@cableone.net X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: teleport23r@hotmail.com,newbies@freebsd.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 227-51.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.227.51] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Frank, First off this is really something that should be posted to the questions list. That said... I'm no modem guru or anything like that, but I'm pretty sure that just about any external modem should work, though I have no experence with any of the USB one's that are out. I have successfully use both Zoom and Diamond external units, picked up a Diamond Supra at a computer store that was moving for under $50 and it works fine with both FBSD and Linux. Also picked up an older ISA USRobotics internal, one you could set jumpers to which com port it was, and it worked well on my older machine with Linux. As far as the drives go, the Diamond came with Windows drivers, which I used for ME, but no drivers were needed for FBSD or Linux, when setting things up I let the software find the modem and took off from there. It's my understanding that any modem (not Winmodem) that uses the Hayes command set should work. The problem with Winmodems is they leave out components that should be there, and make the CPU do their chores. So that's where I would start if I were you is by finding an inexpensive external modem, plugging it into one of the RS232 ports, and giving it a shot. Hopefully someone with a little more knowlege will get back to you on this too, but hope this has been of some help. Good luck, and have fun. Lute ********************** Triple Boot: * FreeBSD 4.6 RELEASE * Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 * Windows ME * ********************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 14:40:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD77937B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C808643E75 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 9 Aug 2002 22:40:05 +0100 Received: from lexx (unverified [62.31.198.203]) by pcow053o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 22:40:04 +0100 From: John Murphy To: "frank hagen" Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modem Driver Question! Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 22:40:04 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "frank hagen" wrote: >I am a FreeBSD newbie! I have searched around, but believe no specific >FreeBSD (or general unix) driver exists for my USRobotics/3Com 56k Fax >Win modem, which i use to connect to the internet (in Windows). Win modems are designed for windows. The windows only software does all the work that's done by the hardware in a normal modem, so they are not as efficient as a normal modem. >I would like to be able to use FreeBSD to access internet, but have no >idea what solution there might be other than purchasing an older modem, >for which drivers might exist. There are plenty of new external serial port modems, all of which will work well with FreeBSD, and most internal _hardware_ modems will be fine though they can be a little tricky to set up. Personally I'd buy external every time. John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 14:53:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7B637B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net (scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8133243E7B for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:53:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lute@cableone.net) Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net ([10.116.0.121]) by scanmail1.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:47:01 -0700 Received: from scanmail1.cableone.net [24.116.0.121] by scanmail1.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A8522C7E00D0; Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:47:01 -0700 Received: from agnes (227-51.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.227.51]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:47:01 -0600 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 16:49:17 -0500 From: Lute Mullenix To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Sylpheed question. Message-Id: <20020809164917.3f501653.lute@cableone.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: agnes X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: lute@cableone.net X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: newbies@freebsd.org X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 227-51.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.227.51] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've been giving Sylpheed a try, and like it for the most part, except for the no spell checker. The question I have is there a way to quote a message in your reply if you don't have that set for defalut? Most of my email is of a personal nature and I don't use quotes for that, but would sure be handy for the list stuff. Lute ********************** Triple Boot: * FreeBSD 4.6 RELEASE * Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 * Windows ME * ********************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 19:10:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB6C37B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE29C43E42 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g7A2A2JU027006 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) id g7A2A2V5027005 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200208100210.g7A2A2V5027005@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 21:51:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77CB37B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 21:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.thundernet.cz (mail.thundernet.cz [62.77.87.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7DEA43E84 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 21:50:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: (qmail 24632 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2002 17:24:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freepuppy.bellavista.cz) (62.168.44.50) by mail.thundernet.cz with SMTP; 9 Aug 2002 17:24:24 -0000 Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B88A33E; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:24:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 19:24:23 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Johnson David Cc: rene@xs4all.nl, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Libretto L2/5 + FreeBSD + X-Windows Message-ID: <20020809172423.GJ389@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Johnson David , rene@xs4all.nl, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <20020809111522.GB76272@xs4all.nl> <200208091008.38155.djohnson@acuson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200208091008.38155.djohnson@acuson.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Johnson David > To: rene@xs4all.nl, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Libretto L2/5 + FreeBSD + X-Windows > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:08:38 -0700 i've missed (read: deleted) the beginning of this thread, so forgive me if i repeat something obvious... > On Friday 09 August 2002 04:15 am, rene@xs4all.nl wrote: > > I'm wondering if it is possible to run selected freebsd apps > > (x-windows, bash, browser, GPS software) from a ramdisk. > > Will this ramdisk come out of your 512MB, or from a card? If the > former, then I would definitely keep things as slim as possible, to > the extent that I would not install X at all, and use text mode email > and browsers (links, pine, etc). > > In any case, you will want a small footprint. For a window manager I > would choose Blackbox or Windowmaker. while *box window managers are generally pretty small, you might still prefer something along {t,m}wm, or ratpoison. > For email and browser, I would choose Mozilla since it combines the > two into one app. Galeon is small, but it requires a lot of GNOME > backend, so It may end up using as much resources as Mozilla. last time i tried (tired of this resource hog called mozilla) galeon, it insisted on me being *running* gnome, not only having it installed. it's not on my hd anymore. (and i still use mozilla, sigh) you might like w3m or links for a browser. both are fine programs (i prefer w3m). if you *insist* on a graphical software (ala mozilla, since both w3m and links can display graphics), you might want to try dillo, or one of the based-on-mozilla-but-much-lighter spinoffs. you can find list of these at mozilla.org. oh, and for mail... go for mutt. tough, but pays off. -- FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 7:14PM up 7:09, 8 users, load averages: 0.05, 0.06, 0.03 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 23:24: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9924237B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFAA43E75 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:23:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk) Received: from caomhin.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.186]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17dPfG-0009D9-0U; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 07:23:54 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 07:19:13 +0100 To: Jim McAtee Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Kevin Golding Subject: Re: Using CVSup References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> <020a01c23fdf$419a8de0$272fa8ce@jim> In-Reply-To: <020a01c23fdf$419a8de0$272fa8ce@jim> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Someone, quite probably Jim McAtee, once wrote: >Thanks, Kevin. I'm beginning to understand a little better. Of the cvsup >tags that appear at this URL, what's the difference between those at the top >of the page and those below? For example, the difference between RELENG_4_6 >AND RELENG_4_6_1_RELEASE? 4_6_1 is a rare thing. Basically not long after 4.6 was released there was a major scare with OpenSSH so instead of waiting for 4.7 a minor release was suggested which offered some non-essential security features. Another scare in OpenSSL means 4.6.1 was trashed for 4.6.2 and a whole lot of extra work for the quality team. Now, the _RELEASE at the end of the line refers to the exact code that first made up 4.6.1 and will always remain so, 4_6_1 is the same code but with extra security and other critical patches. Without the _RELEASE it's called a security branch, which should give a clue why you'd be better using 4_6 than 4_6_RELEASE in 99% of cases. >What would be the way of saying "lastest RELEASE", or is it more advisable >to know exactly which one you want and explicitly specify it in the supfile? You basically need to know, but it is in the top right hand corner of http://www.freebsd.org/ so life isn't that hard :-) Kevin -- kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 9 23:24: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EEA37B401 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE5143E72 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:23:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk) Received: from caomhin.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.186]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17dPfG-0009DA-0U; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 07:23:54 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 07:23:47 +0100 To: Brian Li Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Kevin Golding Subject: Re: Using CVSup References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> <3D54162F.1000502@xmission.com> <3D541E31.C8A0EB52@pantherdragon.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Someone, quite probably Brian Li, once wrote: >I am new to FreeBSD. I am still confuse with the naming convention. Stable >should be more stable than regular release. Howvever, according to the >handbook, it seems like it is not the case. Then why call it stable? -stable is the stable development branch. Basically this means the FreeBSD team will go to extra lengths to avoid breaking things. The essential aspects of the OS are stable in that they won't make radical changes which are likely to cause anyone serious problems. Hence the configuration/development is stable. 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10:03:35 -0400 From: "r.query" Subject: To: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" Reply-To: "r.query" Message-id: <0H0M00GE8SDGR8@mtaout01.icomcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Standard (2.20.2502) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I must say I am always stuck by the ridiculous difficulty I have in installing FreeBSD, which I guess I have done now perhaps 15 times. From the awful probing routine that takes 15 minutes to complete and which restarts when any problem (such as a bad DNS address) is encountered during the install to the erroneous server addresses that have been listed at the FreeBSD website for a number of months now, what should be a 1 or 2 hour install inevitably takes a minimum of a day. For me it typically takes more than a day because I have to quit in frustration after a few hours to avoid pitching my computer out the window. It would be one thing if these kinds of problems were new, but they seem to be ongoing, perhaps even treasured, aspects of the installation routine. Well, I've had my say for the moment...I will go back and try again later....grumble, mumble. mquery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 10 7:30:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236DC37B400 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 07:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox.inspire.net.nz (pobox.inspire.net.nz [203.79.89.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CB543E65 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 07:30:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bdh@inspire.net.nz) Received: from inspire.net.nz (203-79-111-118.jetstart.inspire.net.nz [203.79.111.118]) by pobox.inspire.net.nz (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g7AEYta04203; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 02:34:55 +1200 (NZST) Message-ID: <3D552305.8060009@inspire.net.nz> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 02:28:21 +1200 From: Bruce Harding User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0rc3) Gecko/20020523 X-Accept-Language: en-nz, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "r.query" Cc: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: References: <0H0M00GE8SDGR8@mtaout01.icomcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org r.query wrote: > I must say I am always stuck by the ridiculous difficulty I have in installing FreeBSD, which I > guess I have done now perhaps 15 times. From the awful probing routine that takes 15 minutes > to complete and which restarts when any problem (such as a bad DNS address) is encountered > during the install to the erroneous server addresses that have been listed at the FreeBSD > website for a number of months now, what should be a 1 or 2 hour install inevitably takes a > minimum of a day. For me it typically takes more than a day because I have to quit in > frustration after a few hours to avoid pitching my computer out the window. It would be one > thing if these kinds of problems were new, but they seem to be ongoing, perhaps even > treasured, aspects of the installation routine. You want to try gentoo Linux, I've just tried installing that about 7 times in a row and always end up failing, and it doesn't have any sort of automatic installer. I never have a problem with FreeBSD, in fact today just for fun I did an ftp install because I've never done one before ( and I had the bandwidth to spare, plus a box that obviously refused to let me put Linux on it). I'd actually be wondering what your hardware is, especially considering the long probe? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 10 9:11:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B60A37B400 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3D443E75 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:11:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from r.query@comcast.net) Received: from duron (bgp01544171bgs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net [68.50.111.124]) by mtaout02.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 13 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H0M00I5PYBOLS@mtaout02.icomcast.net> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 12:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 12:12:09 -0400 From: "r.query" Subject: Re: (null) In-reply-to: <0H0M00GE8SDGR8@mtaout01.icomcast.net> To: "freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org" Reply-To: "r.query" Message-id: <0H0M00I5QYBOLS@mtaout02.icomcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Standard (2.20.2502) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All I needed to do to get my ftp install running nicely was to post my complaint here. :D mquery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 10 10:17:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E17E37B400 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (oe15.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.148.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E56E43E42 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian_li@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:17:50 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [12.236.66.209] From: "Brian Li" To: "Kevin Golding" Cc: References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> <3D54162F.1000502@xmission.com> <3D541E31.C8A0EB52@pantherdragon.org> Subject: Re: Using CVSup Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:17:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2002 17:17:50.0056 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA87BE80:01C24091] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does it mean that I should use "Stable" in production environement rather than using "Release" version? Thanks for the suggestion in advance. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Golding" To: "Brian Li" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 11:23 PM Subject: Re: Using CVSup > Someone, quite probably Brian Li, once wrote: > >I am new to FreeBSD. I am still confuse with the naming convention. Stable > >should be more stable than regular release. Howvever, according to the > >handbook, it seems like it is not the case. Then why call it stable? > > -stable is the stable development branch. Basically this means the > FreeBSD team will go to extra lengths to avoid breaking things. The > essential aspects of the OS are stable in that they won't make radical > changes which are likely to cause anyone serious problems. Hence the > configuration/development is stable. > > Kevin > -- > kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 10 10:53:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2066837B400 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.webpath.net (roc-66-66-166-54.rochester.rr.com [66.66.166.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1657E43E65 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:53:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from todd@webpath.net) Received: from localhost.webpath.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.webpath.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7AHnWat026793; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 13:49:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from todd@webpath.net) Received: from localhost (todd@localhost) by localhost.webpath.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g7AHnVCR026790; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 13:49:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.webpath.net: todd owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 13:49:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Robinson To: Brian Li Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Using CVSup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020810134218.F26602-100000@localhost.webpath.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A "Release" may not be as stable as the latest updates to the -stable branch. By example there were a few "issues" when 4.6 came out and a few weeks later things were much better. On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Brian Li wrote: > Does it mean that I should use "Stable" in production environement rather > than using "Release" version? Thanks for the suggestion in advance. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Golding" > To: "Brian Li" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: Using CVSup > > > > Someone, quite probably Brian Li, once wrote: > > >I am new to FreeBSD. I am still confuse with the naming convention. > Stable > > >should be more stable than regular release. Howvever, according to the > > >handbook, it seems like it is not the case. Then why call it stable? > > > > -stable is the stable development branch. Basically this means the > > FreeBSD team will go to extra lengths to avoid breaking things. The > > essential aspects of the OS are stable in that they won't make radical > > changes which are likely to cause anyone serious problems. Hence the > > configuration/development is stable. > > > > Kevin > > -- > > kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 10 11: 8: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EB537B400 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188F943E77 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk) Received: from caomhin.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.186]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 17daee-0005nb-0U; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:08:00 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:06:29 +0100 To: Brian Li Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Kevin Golding Subject: Re: Using CVSup References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> <3D54162F.1000502@xmission.com> <3D541E31.C8A0EB52@pantherdragon.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Someone, quite probably Brian Li, once wrote: >Does it mean that I should use "Stable" in production environement rather >than using "Release" version? Thanks for the suggestion in advance. The final choice is yours and it depends on a lot of factors really. If you've got an office server that can easily go down for a weekend then stable isn't likely to be a problem, but for a webserver you need up 24/7 think about releases. If you do track stable then subscribe to the list so you know what's happening. If for some reason stable won't build that day don't upgrade. For my production machines I tend to use sources that are a couple of days old. That way I can see what happens to other people and if it looks safe I upgrade, or if everyone complains I steer clear. Also cvsup a second time about 5-10 minutes after your first run, that way you're less likely hit the problem of only having half the sources. Stable is pretty much like it says, but the warning that there are times to avoid it is very true. The best advice is to subscribe to stable, read the past few days of archives and see what you think. Stable will often be a better build to have as it has extra fixes/features, but remember to be careful else you could find yourself in trouble. Kevin -- kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 10 16: 1:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8307737B400 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spork.pantherdragon.org (spork.pantherdragon.org [206.29.168.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F369743E72 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:01:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmp@pantherdragon.org) Received: from sparx.pantherdragon.org (evrtwa1-ar10-4-61-252-210.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.61.252.210]) by spork.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5980FFF3D; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pantherdragon.org (speck.techno.pagans [172.21.42.2]) by sparx.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE172AB04; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3D559B25.B1FB333F@pantherdragon.org> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:00:53 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim McAtee Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using CVSup References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> <3D54162F.1000502@xmission.com> <3D541E31.C8A0EB52@pantherdragon.org> <023101c23fe2$22b10320$272fa8ce@jim> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim McAtee wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren Pilgrim" > To: "Jason Porter" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:55 PM > Subject: Re: Using CVSup > > > Jason Porter wrote: > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Stable has more fixes in it than Release. Release means that it's > > > release quality. They can safely box it and ship it out. Stable has > > > the same base as the Release version but contains fixes and is okay to > > > use on a production server (in theory). > > > > Not true. If you read the Handbook section on -stable, it says in > > implied huge, red, flashing letters that there is absolutely no > > guarantee that stable will even compile. > > > > Yes, a lot of people use -stable on production servers. I'm one of > > them. But the tricks to do this safely, the list of gotchas, and the > > constant list monitoring needed to no screw the machine up is not > > something I would consider a habit a beginner should be getting into > > just yet. > > > > A happy medium between the RELEASE tags and -STABLE are the RELENG_4_x > > tags. It's the release (RELENG_4_6 == 4.6) source with all the > > relevant patches from the SA's applied. I would consider this a safe > > way to get your feet wet with cvsup and the make world process, as > > there's very little to trip over with the mergemaster process (perhaps > > the most dangerous part of the whole deal). > > Thanks. I think this may answer my other question regarding the difference > between the tags. So, would the tag RELENG_4_6 actually pull the source for > 4.6.1 (plus patches) if the latest RLEASE is RELENG_4_6_1_RELEASE? RELENG_4_6 would pull down the 4.6-R sources plus all the security patches that apply to it. Currently, the OS version on RELENG_4_6 is 4.6.1-RELEASE-p10. 4.6 and 4.6.1 are the same primary release of 4.6. 4.6.1 is what's called an interim release. They're made when there's something majorly broken, or a nasty bug or vulnerability is found well before the next release is due out. The main benefit of doing this is the release engineer(s) can then create a RELEASE ISO that contains the security branch updates for the primary release. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 10 16:30:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67FD37B400 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spork.pantherdragon.org (spork.pantherdragon.org [206.29.168.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C8543E72 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmp@pantherdragon.org) Received: from sparx.pantherdragon.org (evrtwa1-ar10-4-61-252-210.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.61.252.210]) by spork.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116EBFF3D; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pantherdragon.org (speck.techno.pagans [172.21.42.2]) by sparx.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441CFAB04; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3D55A200.3D91517@pantherdragon.org> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:30:08 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Li Cc: Kevin Golding , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using CVSup References: <019d01c23fd7$2d44d740$272fa8ce@jim> <01c101c23fd8$78b4b5f0$272fa8ce@jim> <3D54162F.1000502@xmission.com> <3D541E31.C8A0EB52@pantherdragon.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brian Li wrote: > > Does it mean that I should use "Stable" in production environement rather > than using "Release" version? Thanks for the suggestion in advance. Only if there's something only in -stable you need (like a new NIC driver, or a fix to the ATA or SCSI code). Otherwise, use the latest security fix branch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 10 21:22:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECBE37B400 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 21:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailrtr02.ntelos.net (mailrtr02.ntelos.net [216.12.0.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B15F43E42 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 21:22:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eburke@intelos.com) Received: from eric-7fab1xbbmk.intelos.com (ppp-62-18.access.ntelos.net [216.12.62.18]) by mailrtr02.ntelos.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g7B4MIu27442 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:22:18 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020811001808.00b1b898@mail.intelos.com> X-Sender: eburke@mail.intelos.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:22:25 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: "Eric B." Subject: FreeBSD Newbie Help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am trying to install FreeBSD 4.6 for the first time.. When I go to the kernel configuration to adjust all the conflicts 7 of them, I then correct and save the changes it then takes me to a screen that says Probing devices please wait this may take a while. How long is a while? I been waiting for almost 30 mins now. Does that mean something is wrong for it take that long? I know I corrected the conflicts. Any help would be great thanks. For your information I am trying to dual boot on WindowsXP Professional System Specs. 900Mhz AMD Athon ThunderBird Processor 256megs of DDR ram EliteGroup K7S5A Socket A mainboard Bios version American Megatrends Inc.07.00T MaXtor 30GIG 7200 rpms partition into 2 drives C and D. Creative 52x CD-ROM I just don't get it I tried to install it on my old crappy pc that is only a 1.3gig hardrive 192megs of ram and a 333mhz celeron processor it started the installation fine on this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 10 23:30:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE64537B400 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C6B643E7B for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:30:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yid@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 17227 invoked by uid 417); 11 Aug 2002 06:30:23 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 11 Aug 2002 06:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown ([216.194.22.33]) (AUTH: LOGIN yid@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:30:21 -0600 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 02:26:46 -0400 From: Joshua Lee To: Lute Mullenix Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sylpheed question. Message-Id: <20020811022646.2a8e528a.yid@softhome.net> In-Reply-To: <20020809164917.3f501653.lute@cableone.net> References: <20020809164917.3f501653.lute@cableone.net> Organization: Plan B Software Labs X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 16:49:17 -0500 Lute Mullenix wrote: > I've been giving Sylpheed a try, and like it for the most part, except > for the no spell checker. The question I have is there a way to quote The Sylpheed-Claws package includes optional spell checker support, which you can enable on the make command line. Maybe regular Sylpheed does too. > message in your reply if you don't have that set for defalut? Maybe right-clicking on reply (or all) will work. It works for not quoting with quoting as-default here. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 10 23:32:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FEB37B400 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.infowest.com (ns1.infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD0C43E65 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:32:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jferguson@infowest.com) Received: from kylie (adsse7enn.infowest.com [208.186.106.106]) by ns1.infowest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B5D2109E for ; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:32:16 -0600 (MDT) From: "Jared Ferguson" To: Subject: More Info Please Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:32:22 -0600 Message-ID: <000201c24100$d98d0b60$090a0a0a@kylie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm a newby to FreeBSD. I would like some more information regarding the FreeBSD OS and the help that's available for it. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 10 23:34: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7F337B400 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9228543E86 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yid@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 22662 invoked by uid 417); 11 Aug 2002 06:34:04 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 11 Aug 2002 06:34:04 -0000 Received: from unknown ([216.194.22.33]) (AUTH: LOGIN yid@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:34:02 -0600 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 02:30:27 -0400 From: Joshua Lee To: "Eric B." Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newbie Help Message-Id: <20020811023027.12a1072c.yid@softhome.net> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020811001808.00b1b898@mail.intelos.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020811001808.00b1b898@mail.intelos.com> Organization: Plan B Software Labs X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:22:25 -0400 "Eric B." wrote: > Probing > devices please wait this may take a while. How long is a while? I > been waiting for almost 30 mins now. Does that mean something is wrong Probably so. I had this problem until I disabled a built-in NIC. If that doesn't work try disabling or removing other hardware one by one until you find out what's confusing the installer. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message