From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 8 4:40:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8267F37B400 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 04:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piranha.bsdsi.com (b065199.adsl.hansenet.de [62.109.65.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D5143E42 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 04:40:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mm@piranha.bsdsi.com) Received: (from mm@localhost) by piranha.bsdsi.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) id g88Bel7k000550 for newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 13:40:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mm) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Martin Moeller To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time to step up Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 13:40:35 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <13F99052-C21B-11D6-BF19-003065966488@emjay.net> In-Reply-To: <13F99052-C21B-11D6-BF19-003065966488@emjay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200209081340.47120.mm@bsdsi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 7. September 2002 06:34 schrieb Michael Johnson: > I want to install it OVER the Linux install. That is, I want to keep > the users, passwords, home directories, etc., and get the benefit, and > comfort, of BSD. > > Is this possible, or do I need to just pack up the thought and install > fresh over the Linux and recreate all the users? I don't know that > saving the /etc/passwd /etc/groups and /etc/shadow files would do it > since the systems are different. Would that work? > Hi Michael, I don't think you'll be successful with this. BSD and Linux are using different filesystems and I haven't heard of a possibilty to install Free= BSD on ext2/3 or whatever. 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Hamshire" Subject: freeBSD PPP daemon on leased line,NAT,DHCPD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HI all My first problem is the following, I have set up a box to perform as a mail server / gateway using freeBSD to connect to my ISP via a leased line modem. I can't manage to get the box to talk with the modem with PPP. I am looking for a freeBSD script to do this as well as info on where to set it up so that it starts automatically on boot up. My second problem is the following, I do not understand how the communication is handled between the box and the ISP in regards to the following: the box has the assigned IP number 192.168.0.101 but the ISP has assigned it 209.203.2.119. 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Nothing succeeds like excess. -- Oscar Wilde To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 10 21: 5: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D703B37B400 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-131.outblaze.com [205.158.62.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F87143E3B for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:05:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chowhai@operamail.com) Received: (qmail 23659 invoked by uid 1001); 11 Sep 2002 04:05:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20020911040505.23658.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [192.169.41.108] by ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com with http for chowhai@operamail.com; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:05:05 +0800 From: "chow hai" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:05:05 +0800 Subject: Moutind CDROM/Floppies as normal user X-Originating-Ip: 192.169.41.108 X-Originating-Server: ws5-1.us4.outblaze.com Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, How do I mount the CDROM and/or floppies using a normal user instead of having to su to root & mounting them. -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.operamail.com Powered by Outblaze To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Sep 10 21:38:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812CA37B400 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.radezh.ru (ac-19-r12.vistcom.ru [213.80.131.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D792C43E6A for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:38:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shmatov@radezh.ru) Received: from artem by radezh.ru with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v5.0.7.R) for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:50:46 +0400 Message-ID: <001e01c2594c$84299760$5300a8c0@radezh.ru> From: "Kirill Shmatov" To: References: <20020911040505.23658.qmail@operamail.com> Subject: Re: Moutind CDROM/Floppies as normal user Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:34:28 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Return-Path: shmatov@radezh.ru X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi, > How do I mount the CDROM and/or floppies using a normal > user instead of having to su to root & mounting them. > Hi! Go to root and set system variable to 1, just like this: # sysctl -w vfs.usermount=1 And, please, read the FAQ :). --- Kirill Shmatov - shmatov@radezh.ru - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 11 17:23: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A25737B400 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thor.acuson.com (thor.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9897243E6E for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:23:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H2A006KIUDGCW@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:21:02 -0700 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-133.acuson.com [157.226.46.133]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id RSV1JRGF; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:23:20 -0700 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:22:53 -0700 From: Johnson David Subject: -STABLE versus -PRERELEASE To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <200209111722.53922.djohnson@acuson.com> Organization: Acuson MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just spent a lot of work getting sources via CTM and building/installing. I was expecting to see a -STABLE FreeBSD, but instead I see a 4.7-PRERELEASE. Is this the same thing? I hope I didn't waste the last four hours for nothing... If this isn't -STABLE, then where does one get -STABLE via CTM? I can't use anoncvs or cvsup because of a firewall here at work. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Sep 11 18:53:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16F037B400 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E3E43E75 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:53:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Received: from bsdprophet.org (adsl-66-141-64-9.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net [66.141.64.9]) by pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.3 da nor stuldap/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8C1rh2f537310; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:53:43 -0400 Message-ID: <3D7FF3A8.3060301@bsdprophet.org> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:53:44 -0500 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johnson David Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -STABLE versus -PRERELEASE References: <200209111722.53922.djohnson@acuson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You are fine, October 1st is the release date for 4.7. -Stable is where the source code will be taken from for that release. You are fine, no wasted time at all. Have fun and enjoy! Johnson David wrote: > I just spent a lot of work getting sources via CTM and building/installing. I > was expecting to see a -STABLE FreeBSD, but instead I see a 4.7-PRERELEASE. > Is this the same thing? I hope I didn't waste the last four hours for > nothing... > > If this isn't -STABLE, then where does one get -STABLE via CTM? I can't use > anoncvs or cvsup because of a firewall here at work. > > David > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- People who Love *nix use FreeBSD People who Hate Windows use ----- X. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 12 22:19:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086AD37B400 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f84.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CADA43E4A for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:19:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zdetton@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:19:53 -0700 Received: from 216.20.236.18 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 05:19:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.20.236.18] From: "Zachary Detton" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:19:53 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2002 05:19:53.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[30E5EAA0:01C25AE5] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Sep 12 22:26:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BBC37B400 for ; 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charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Zachary Detton writes: > subscribe freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org alys@skyviewmail.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ^^^^^^^^^ > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Ketanu - RSA PGP Key ID: 0x20D90C12 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 13 19:10:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BDB37B401 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6FE43E3B for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g8E2A2JU040904 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) id g8E2A2Kd040903 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200209140210.g8E2A2Kd040903@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Sep 13 23:36: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BF837B407 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from a9.shes.net (a9.shes.net [210.166.100.174]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F0B3443E84 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayu1@shes.net) Received: (qmail 15710 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2002 14:26:58 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO wing-cilnjn2j6v) (61.207.96.35) by a9.shes.net with SMTP; 14 Sep 2002 14:26:58 +0900 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?d2F5dTFAc2hlcy5uZXQ=?=@FreeBSD.ORG To: =?iso-2022-jp?B?MTIx?=@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: wayu1@shes.net Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 14:27:01 +0900 Subject: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJDckOCRfJEgkYiRiJE4lMyVpJVwlbCE8JTclZyVzGyhK?= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20020914063558.F0B3443E84@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ͂ĂԂǂ ݂Ƃ̃R{[V [^rfIicucj ‚܂ʼncƂł邩킩܂ ͂߂ɁI http://free.memberz.net/member/shoujox/ i `@Écn9@̓ ȂǂȂ132iBD]I (^-^)/~Fg[ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Sep 14 21:12:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247AD37B400; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [216.187.106.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD4043E42; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@m20.unixathome.org) Received: by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6C3277A90; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 00:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-08-25 - 2002-09-14 Message-Id: <20020915041003.6C3277A90@m20.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 00:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 13-Sep : Samba - updating my very old version Lots of changes over the past four years http://freebsddiary.org/samba-changes.php?2 3-Sep : Managing an IP address change There is more to it than /etc/rc.conf http://freebsddiary.org/ip-address-change.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message