From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Sep 29 16:39:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505A937B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd2mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72E843E6A for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:39:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from themorb@morb.ca) Received: from pd2mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr2so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.109]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H38008GC4E31P@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:39:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml5so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.149]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H3800DAW4E34U@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:39:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hotstuff.morb.ca (h24-70-201-30.gv.shawcable.net [24.70.201.30]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 12 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H3800AH54E2HC@l-daemon> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 17:39:39 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:39:35 -0700 From: Nathaniel Morbey Subject: read_cd To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <200209291639.35718.themorb@morb.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an asus a7v333 motherboard and keep getting read_cd errors with dagrab and cdda2wav. Anyone have any suggestions? -- ><> ><> ><> www.morb.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 30 17:59:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B8837B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F67B43E42 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:59:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jolok@myrealbox.com) Received: from joloxbox ([12.225.249.250]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021001005951.SHCJ22381.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@joloxbox>; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 00:59:51 +0000 Message-ID: <000401c268e5$d89f1920$0200000a@joloxbox> From: "Joshua Lokken" To: "Hytham Abo Zenadh" , References: <20020924074301.60148.qmail@web9605.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD user. Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 17:57:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please do not spam the list. Joshua ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hytham Abo Zenadh" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 12:43 AM Subject: FreeBSD user. > Dear, > > I am FreeBSD user and really recommending the > following site: > > http://cognigen.net/bizop/?gr8service > > Seriously it changes my life totally. > > Best wishes, > > > > Hytham, > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Sep 30 19:44:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504C237B404 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web21109.mail.yahoo.com (web21109.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD2F143E7B for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:44:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from geekvinod@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20021001024446.63266.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:44:46 PDT Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:44:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinod Subject: DCOPserver:failed inter process communication To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there.I was trying to use the "kill $!" command to kill the last process but instead did a "kill $?" by mistake and from then on my interprocess communication doesnt start. i get the following message "There was an error setting up inter-process Communications for KDE.The message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list. /root/DCOPserver_uncc.edu_:0 Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running." thne on my screen i see a ICEauthority failing.can't make much sense.Can anyone tell me how i can salvage things here? Would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance, Vinod __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 1 12:53:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1567837B404 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 12:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.chello.se (smtp2.chello.se [193.150.195.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F51A43E75 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 12:53:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper.b@home.se) Received: from home.se ([213.89.18.250]) by smtp2.chello.se (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license 1626c9846e046e5eb21c6bb450d1abc1) with ESMTP id <20021001195328.BUWT24391.smtp2@home.se> for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:53:28 +0200 Message-ID: <3D99FD33.2030503@home.se> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 21:53:23 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jesper_Blomstr=F6m?= Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jesper_Blomstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en,sv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: make buildworld fails with bzip2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, For the last year I have neglected my FreeBSD-OS. Now my Windows has crashed and I´ve decided to totally ignore/leave Win forever and focus on FreeBSD. I am running 4.3 and was going to upgrade to the latest 4-Stable. I did "cvsup -g acorrectsupfile" Ok Then I moved to /usr/src and did "make buildworld" Ok for about 1 our (was requested to do mergemaster -p because a user was missing, Ok). Then it stopped with a message like: lib/compat/compat22 uudecode -p /usr/src/lib/compat/compat22/lib.so.3.1.bz2.uu | bzip2 -d > libc.so.3.1 bzip2: not found Error code 112 I remembered reading about gzip2 had been moved or something like that so I did: "cd /usr/ports/archivers/bzip2; make install clean" Went OK bzip2 was/is installed. I tried buildworld again but it stopped with the same message. I have repeated the whole process (that is cvsup and so on) but still, the same problem. Could it have something to do with my path? >echo $PATH PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin/: /usr/bin:/usr/games: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin: /usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin >which bzip2 /usr/local/bin/bzip2 Please help me, I´m getting desperate here... Thx in advance, Jesper. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 1 13:17:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6412F37B401 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from devil.tebokkel.com (ptb.xs4all.nl [80.126.6.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5DD43E3B for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:17:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@tebokkel.com) Received: from devil.tebokkel.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by devil.tebokkel.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g91KHM5v088546; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:17:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from paul@devil.tebokkel.com) Received: (from paul@localhost) by devil.tebokkel.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g91KHML4088500; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:17:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from paul) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:17:22 +0200 From: Paul te Bokkel To: Vinod Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DCOPserver:failed inter process communication Message-ID: <20021001201722.GA77086@tebokkel.com> References: <20021001024446.63266.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021001024446.63266.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 07:44:46PM -0700, Vinod wrote: > Hi there.I was trying to use the "kill $!" command to > kill the last process but instead did a "kill $?" by > mistake and from then on my interprocess communication > doesnt start. > i get the following message > "There was an error setting up inter-process > Communications for KDE.The message returned by the > system was: > Could not read network connection list. > /root/DCOPserver_uncc.edu_:0 > Please check that the "dcopserver" program is > running." > > thne on my screen i see a ICEauthority failing.can't > make much sense.Can anyone tell me how i can salvage > things here? > Would really appreciate it. > Thanks in advance, > Vinod How about a reboot? Or control-alt-backspace to restart X? Or is that a stupid question? Regards - no, I'm not trying to be funny :) Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 1 14:46:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5255737B401 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.chello.se (smtp2.chello.se [193.150.195.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4276B43E3B for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:46:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper.b@home.se) Received: from home.se ([213.89.18.250]) by smtp2.chello.se (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license 1626c9846e046e5eb21c6bb450d1abc1) with ESMTP id <20021001205755.CFYL24391.smtp2@home.se>; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:57:55 +0200 Message-ID: <3D9A0C4D.8000509@home.se> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 22:57:49 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jesper_Blomstr=F6m?= Reply-To: jeppe@partitur.se User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en,sv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies Cc: Paul te Bokkel Subject: Re: make buildworld fails with bzip2 References: <3D99FD33.2030503@home.se> <20021001202121.GB77086@tebokkel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > You didn't say you rebooted in between. Sorry forgot to tell you. My middle name is reboot. I have been trying to solve this problem for the last two days and have rebooted multiple times. > Looks like you're using > default tcsh, which hashes all used commands. I was being unclear again. The ">"-sign was just my way of describing the commands I wrote. I have tried different shells, there among BASH. > btw, there's no danger in rebooting, since your world is being staged > in /usr/obj and doesn't overwrite anything untill you installworld it. The first time I tried updating my system, I just did (and went to bed): cvsup -g -L2 supfile; cd /usr/src; make buildworld; make buildkernel; make installworld; make installkernel Now I know better, I should have made the steps one by one or perhaps put a "&&" between instead of ";" The process had stopped when installworld was being run. It stopped with: ===> lib /libcom_err INSTALL -C -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.a /usr/lib INSTALL -C -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.so.2 /usr/lib INSTALL -C -o ... com_err.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3 INSTALL: com_err.3.gz No such file or directory ERROR CODE 71 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcom_err After this accident I (as I said in my first mail) have tried running the whole process again (with cvsup and so on). Hope that this cleared out what I´ve being doing. Cheers, Jesper To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 1 15:41:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763DB37B401 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-send.myrealbox.com (smtp-send.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C83743E4A for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:41:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jolok@myrealbox.com) Received: from inspectorbox jolok@smtp-send.myrealbox.com [130.94.160.46] by smtp-send.myrealbox.com with NetMail SMTP Agent $Revision: 3.12 $ on Novell NetWare; Tue, 01 Oct 2002 16:41:56 -0600 Message-ID: <00d001c2699b$7dea7540$7404e9c6@inspectorbox> From: "Joshua Lokken" To: , "freebsd-newbies" Cc: "Paul te Bokkel" References: <3D99FD33.2030503@home.se> <20021001202121.GB77086@tebokkel.com> <3D9A0C4D.8000509@home.se> Subject: Re: make buildworld fails with bzip2 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:40:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesper Blomström" To: "freebsd-newbies" Cc: "Paul te Bokkel" Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: Re: make buildworld fails with bzip2 > > You didn't say you rebooted in between. > > Sorry forgot to tell you. My middle name is reboot. > I have been trying to solve this problem for the last two days and > have rebooted multiple times. > > > Looks like you're using > > default tcsh, which hashes all used commands. > > I was being unclear again. The ">"-sign was just my way of describing > the commands I wrote. I have tried different shells, there among BASH. > > > btw, there's no danger in rebooting, since your world is being staged > > in /usr/obj and doesn't overwrite anything untill you installworld it. > > The first time I tried updating my system, I just did (and went to bed): > cvsup -g -L2 supfile; cd /usr/src; make buildworld; make buildkernel; > make installworld; make installkernel I don't know if this makes any difference or not, but I was under the impression that the sequence for the above is: make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel make installworld Am I right? Does it matter? Joshua Lokken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 1 16:45:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4378337B401 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web21109.mail.yahoo.com (web21109.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D5FB543E65 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:45:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from geekvinod@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20021001234537.76427.qmail@web21109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.15.26.29] by web21109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Oct 2002 16:45:37 PDT Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:45:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Vinod Subject: Re: DCOPserver:failed inter process communication To: Paul te Bokkel Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20021001201722.GA77086@tebokkel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org no i appreciate it.i tried a reboot.doesnt work.actually i was working as root when this happened.i can work on it without any problems as a user.but whenever i do startx as root this error comes. Vinod --- Paul te Bokkel wrote: > On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 07:44:46PM -0700, Vinod > wrote: > > Hi there.I was trying to use the "kill $!" command > to > > kill the last process but instead did a "kill $?" > by > > mistake and from then on my interprocess > communication > > doesnt start. > > i get the following message > > "There was an error setting up inter-process > > Communications for KDE.The message returned by the > > system was: > > Could not read network connection list. > > /root/DCOPserver_uncc.edu_:0 > > Please check that the "dcopserver" program is > > running." > > > > thne on my screen i see a ICEauthority > failing.can't > > make much sense.Can anyone tell me how i can > salvage > > things here? > > Would really appreciate it. > > Thanks in advance, > > Vinod > > How about a reboot? Or control-alt-backspace to > restart X? Or is that > a stupid question? > > Regards - no, I'm not trying to be funny :) > > Paul > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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FOR A FREE QUOTES AND MORE INFORMATION CLICK HERE! 54eh --------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Oct 1 23:46:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E044B37B401 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 23:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.chello.se (smtp1.chello.se [193.150.195.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6DF43E6A for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 23:46:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper.b@home.se) Received: from home.se ([213.89.18.250]) by smtp1.chello.se (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license 1626c9846e046e5eb21c6bb450d1abc1) with ESMTP id <20021002064543.GCGI6991.smtp1@home.se>; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:45:43 +0200 Message-ID: <3D9A9651.2000900@home.se> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 08:46:41 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jesper_Blomstr=F6m?= Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jesper_Blomstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en,sv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Lokken Cc: jeppe@partitur.se, freebsd-newbies , Paul te Bokkel Subject: Re: make buildworld fails with bzip2 References: <3D99FD33.2030503@home.se> <20021001202121.GB77086@tebokkel.com> <3D9A0C4D.8000509@home.se> <00d001c2699b$7dea7540$7404e9c6@inspectorbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I don't know if this makes any difference or not, but I was under the > impression that the sequence for the above is: > > make buildworld > make buildkernel > make installkernel > make installworld > > Am I right? Does it matter? No, it doesn´t matter to me in any case. I can´t even make buildworld. lib/compat/compat22 uudecode -p /usr/src/lib/compat/compat22/lib.so.3.1.bz2.uu | bzip2 -d > libc.so.3.1 bzip2: not found Error code 112 bzip2 is installed. / Jeppe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 2 1:44:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AA737B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 01:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp (mail.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp [133.42.159.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C51243E77 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 01:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from s030037ReMoVe@sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp) Received: from wicked (alt.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp [133.42.147.113]) by mail.sys.wakayama-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id E3D49475F6F for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 17:44:02 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <004f01c269ef$f8073f80$71932a85@wicked> From: "Rafael Sierra" To: Subject: looking for an IDE Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 17:44:49 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there. I just switched to freebsd (4.6.2) and in order to start a programming project in C / C++ I need to install a complete IDE. (compiler, debugger, etc) For many years I have been using Borland tools for DOS/WINDOWS, that's why I'm looking for something similar. Whether you use something like that or recommend another kind of tool, please give some advise. Thanks in advance, Rafael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 2 5:30:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD5E37B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 05:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hughes-fe01.direcway.com (hughes-fe01.direcway.com [66.82.20.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A176343E3B for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 05:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmprice@direcway.com) Received: from jerusalem ([66.82.49.69]) by hughes-fe01.direcway.com (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license dcc4e84cb8fc01ca8f8654c982ec8526) with ESMTP id <20021002123120.DZOU1393.hughes-fe01@jerusalem>; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:31:20 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" From: "Weston M. Price" To: "Rafael Sierra" , Subject: Re: looking for an IDE Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:22:27 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <004f01c269ef$f8073f80$71932a85@wicked> In-Reply-To: <004f01c269ef$f8073f80$71932a85@wicked> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200210020822.27422.wmprice@direcway.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The best one I have seen thus far is KDevelop for KDE.=20 It provides similar functionality and behavior as Visual C++ and the Borl= and=20 tools. There is also an IDE environment called Eclipse that is directore = more =20 towards the Java language, however, the tool does purport language=20 independence through the use of plugins. You can check out their stuff at= =20 www.eclipse.org. However, I have found KDevelop to be excellent.=20 Regards, Weston On Wednesday 02 October 2002 08:44 am, Rafael Sierra wrote: > Hi there. I just switched to freebsd (4.6.2) and in order to start a > programming project in C / C++ I need to install a complete IDE. (compi= ler, > debugger, etc) > > For many years I have been using Borland tools for DOS/WINDOWS, that's = why > I'm looking for something similar. > > Whether you use something like that or recommend another kind of tool, > please give some advise. > > Thanks in advance, > Rafael > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 2 8:17:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF0237B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.home.se (smtp1.home.se [195.66.35.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7D543E86 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 08:17:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper.b@home.se) Received: from home.se jesper.b@home.se [213.89.19.206] by smtp1.home.se with Novell NIMS $Revision: 2.88.1.1 $ on Novell NetWare; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 17:10:19 +0200 Message-ID: <3D9B0DF9.5000908@home.se> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 17:17:13 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jesper_Blomstr=F6m?= Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jesper_Blomstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020926 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies Cc: Joshua Lokken , Paul te Bokkel Subject: Re: make buildworld fails with bzip2 References: <3D99FD33.2030503@home.se> <20021001202121.GB77086@tebokkel.com> <3D9A0C4D.8000509@home.se> <00d001c2699b$7dea7540$7404e9c6@inspectorbox> <3D9A9651.2000900@home.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FYI Instead of trying with the 4-Stable I changed my supfile to RELENG_4_6_2_RELEASE. The installation went superb and now everything works fine and I am so happy. Hopefully it will not be any problem now to upgrade to 4-Stable, but I think I settle with this version for a while (was using 4.3 before upgrade). Thanks for your help. / Jeppe - Who doesn't like bzip2 Jesper Blomström wrote: >> I don't know if this makes any difference or not, but I was under the >> impression that the sequence for the above is: >> >> make buildworld >> make buildkernel >> make installkernel >> make installworld >> >> Am I right? Does it matter? > > > > No, it doesn´t matter to me in any case. I can´t even make buildworld. > > lib/compat/compat22 > uudecode -p /usr/src/lib/compat/compat22/lib.so.3.1.bz2.uu | bzip2 -d > > libc.so.3.1 > bzip2: not found Error code 112 > > bzip2 is installed. > > > / Jeppe > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 2 10: 5: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5DB37B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thor.acuson.com (thor.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A820843E65 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:05:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H3D0074862YAX@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 10:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 10:02:18 -0700 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-116.acuson.com [157.226.46.116]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id RSV1SPWR; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 10:04:30 -0700 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 10:04:52 -0700 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: looking for an IDE In-reply-to: <004f01c269ef$f8073f80$71932a85@wicked> To: Rafael Sierra , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <200210021004.52104.djohnson@acuson.com> Organization: Acuson MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <004f01c269ef$f8073f80$71932a85@wicked> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 02 October 2002 01:44 am, Rafael Sierra wrote: > Hi there. I just switched to freebsd (4.6.2) and in order to start a > programming project in C / C++ I need to install a complete IDE. (compiler, > debugger, etc) KDevelop has already been mentioned, but there are others available. Take a look under /usr/ports/devel for many more. My favorite, after trying out all the rest, is XEmacs. Yes, that's right. XEmacs. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 2 12:24:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2283F37B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hughes-fe01.direcway.com (hughes-fe01.direcway.com [66.82.20.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B12543E77 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmprice@direcway.com) Received: from jerusalem ([66.82.49.69]) by hughes-fe01.direcway.com (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license dcc4e84cb8fc01ca8f8654c982ec8526) with ESMTP id <20021002192511.JEHV1393.hughes-fe01@jerusalem>; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:25:11 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" From: "Weston M. Price" To: Johnson David , Rafael Sierra , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: looking for an IDE Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:16:18 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <004f01c269ef$f8073f80$71932a85@wicked> <200210021004.52104.djohnson@acuson.com> In-Reply-To: <200210021004.52104.djohnson@acuson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200210021516.18035.wmprice@direcway.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, now that I think about it, David is right on this one. For C/C+= + I=20 do use emacs quite a bit.=20 Weston On Wednesday 02 October 2002 05:04 pm, Johnson David wrote: > On Wednesday 02 October 2002 01:44 am, Rafael Sierra wrote: > > Hi there. I just switched to freebsd (4.6.2) and in order to start a > > programming project in C / C++ I need to install a complete IDE. > > (compiler, debugger, etc) > > KDevelop has already been mentioned, but there are others available. Ta= ke a > look under /usr/ports/devel for many more. > > My favorite, after trying out all the rest, is XEmacs. Yes, that's righ= t. > XEmacs. > > David > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 2 19:32:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A7A37B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 19:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F1F43E7B for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 19:32:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jtylor20@attbi.com) Received: from kitchen ([66.31.235.10]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021003023234.BVDE6431.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@kitchen> for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 02:32:34 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3D9BAFD4.000005.14465@kitchen> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:47:48 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Content-Type: Text/Plain X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1600560) From: "Cort Naegelin" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: 2.0 X-CNT: ; Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Tape drive suggestions Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Starting next year, I am making some major changes. i am migrating our file storage over to NAS servers. to do this a need a back-up server which will be Freebsd. Tape backups are needed. Any suggestions for tape drives? Onstream has some 120Gig tape drives which are cheap. They work under Linux, but I am curious about BSD? any suggestions for Tape backup software would be helpful too. Thanks Cort To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Oct 2 22:27:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C1737B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.radezh.ru (ac-19-r12.vistcom.ru [213.80.131.148]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7B943E65 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:27:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shmatov@radezh.ru) Received: from ARTEM by radezh.ru with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v5.0.7.R) for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 09:40:38 +0400 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:22:43 +0400 From: Kirill Shmatov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Reply-To: Kirill Shmatov X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1783655668.20021003092243@radezh.ru> To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: looking for an IDE In-Reply-To: <004f01c269ef$f8073f80$71932a85@wicked> References: <004f01c269ef$f8073f80$71932a85@wicked> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Return-Path: shmatov@radezh.ru X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: MD5 Hello Rafael, Wednesday, October 02, 2002, 12:44:49 PM, you wrote: RS> Hi there. I just switched to freebsd (4.6.2) and in order to start a RS> programming project in C / C++ I need to install a complete IDE. (compiler, RS> debugger, etc) RS> For many years I have been using Borland tools for DOS/WINDOWS, that's why RS> I'm looking for something similar. Well, Emacs and Xemacs are realy cool things, but look at "Motor" and "xwpe" (sorry, don't remember the paths). - -- Best regards, Kirill mailto:shmatov@radezh.ru -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUAPZvUJ5iQJq3V+2DdAQG9zAP/VsEH3z+DuEXRccC6PkA3QEwiwOQHcBPn X5VlRgctGQcCSJFxZ+67IwLBpmuPF5iSRK1vTzrUG8VjTU2hgX116HUirJ2Mo/lZ QEBepskw3HKTjqwVTWnoe8jPgNukIrXLpOIuyf81Y6RviXeb05esbF8H1yNXx/bu yvB071x5YE0= =Tw6d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 4 3:27:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D82A37B401 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 03:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20109.mail.yahoo.com (web20109.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0C3543E77 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 03:27:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freefabri@yahoo.it) Message-ID: <20021004102747.78045.qmail@web20109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [217.133.222.124] by web20109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:27:47 CEST Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:27:47 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fabrizio=20Ravazzini?= Subject: servers HP tc2110 standard To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all I've to install two FreeBSD 4.6 firewalls on two HP TC2110 standard,I've never installed BSD before on these models. Did anyone installed successfully FreeBSD on these machines? I just want to know experiences or some problems during the installation or after. Thanks all bye ______________________________________________________________________ Scarica il nuovo Yahoo! 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It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 4 19:54: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D44937B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arbornet.org (m-net.arbornet.org [209.142.209.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF7D43E86; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:53:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from polytarp@m-net.arbornet.org) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arbornet.org (8.12.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g952tCfw015768; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:55:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from polytarp@m-net.arbornet.org) Received: from localhost (polytarp@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g952tCeD015765; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:55:12 -0400 (EDT) From: pgreen To: Sue Blake Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit In-Reply-To: <200210050210.g952A2gM062216@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20021004225459.C15752-100000@m-net.arbornet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org plz...... romania ps. 6..... bitchk? On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Sue Blake wrote: > > FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit > > (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. > It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) > > FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about > installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests > are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. > > FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to > questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. > > FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and > covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt > with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on > our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how > to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to > use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, > moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the > FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to > freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are > doing the same things that we do as newbies. > > One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find > help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: > > When something doesn't work the way you expect > > 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at > http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and > security advisories. > 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at > http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html > 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of > `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question > to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. > > Mailing lists > > When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only > one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. > FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as > more general and advanced questions. > > You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a > question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you > personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and > followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them > different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to > freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the > recent questions and their answers. > > Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at > http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer > FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when > they get questions which are difficult to understand. > http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. > > If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and > ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to > the support mailing list. > > Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing > list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might > get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. > > Other mailing lists > (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) > cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll > need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's > probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for > advice about where to post a more specialised question. > > FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional > announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick > Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. > > Manuals > > You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to > use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not > always as easy as it sounds! > > If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a > brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, > always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you > do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. > > Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is > encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at > http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html > > Other resources > > A resource list is available at > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and > inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It > includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web > pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a > suggestion for good material to be included, please write to > freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. > > But I have seen people asking questions here! > > It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a > mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from > time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't > belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose > job it is to sort these problems out privately. > > The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It > is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies > so we all make mistakes. That's OK. > > One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, > believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, > not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the > situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to > redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. > There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. > > So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions > as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies > can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on > our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not > allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the > mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. > _________________________________________________________________ > > To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: > Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. > > Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. > _________________________________________________________________ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 5 15:42:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F28637B401 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from montevideo.com.uy (r200-61-110-20.multitel.net.uy [200.61.110.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA77B43E65 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rplsd@montevideo.com.uy) From: "La Sociedad Digital" To: (La Sociedad Digital) Subject: Presentacion de La Sociedad Digital / A Sociedade Digital. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:20:37 -0300 Reply-To: "La Sociedad Digital" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20021005224237.AA77B43E65@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Presentacion de La Sociedad Digital. (texto version española/texto version portuguesa). Boletín 1 / Octubre de 2002. LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL - PORTAL IBEROAMERICANO DE LA SOCIEDAD DE LA INFORMACIÓN. http://www.sociedaddigital.org PRESENTACION: La Sociedad Digital se ha constituido en el principal Portal de la Sociedad de la Información en Ibero América, comprendiendo en la actualidad cerca de quince secciones con un total de documentos estimable en aproximadamente 800, que cubren las áreas más importantes de la Sociedad de la Información. Ello ha sido posible gracias al aporte y la preocupación de un conjunto de especialistas de uno y otro lado del Atlántico, concentrados en este proyecto abierto que comenzó a ser construido en su expresión virtual en octubre de 2001. En la actualidad, la mayor parte de las secciones del Portal se encuentran operativas. El proyecto se viene desarrollando de conformidad con las coordenadas propias de su primera fase: constitución ordenada de un reservorio de información actualizada de elevadas trascendencia para la comprensión de la sociedad en Red conjuntamente con aportes propios producto de investigación colectiva por parte de los equipos de La Sociedad Digital o de aportes individuales de los miembros de su Board de Directores, en el marco de sus respectivas especialidades. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- ESTRUCTURA: Las actuales secciones disponibles del Proyecto Portal de la Sociedad de la Información http://www.sociedaddigital.org son las siguientes: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- NOVEDADES: Las incorporaciones documentales más recientes en el Portal: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- EVENTOS CIENTÍFICOS A DESTACAR: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- INFORMACIONES DEL BOARD: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ PROYECTOS EN DESARROLLO: En este momento, La Sociedad Digital se encuentra desarrollando varios proyectos nuevos, los que se encuentran en diferentes etapas de progreso. En síntesis: (a) Los aspectos operativos: el Portal se encuentra en remodelación, para una presentación en el futuro que pueda considerarse más amigable en su relación con el usuario, y que permitirá un despliegue de mayor agilidad de su contenido documental, así como la correlación temática de sus contenidos. (b) El sistema estadístico: dentro de los proyectos de investigación oportunamente planteados se diseñó un completo sistema estadístico que pudiera ser considerado como uno de los más completos del mundo, reuniendo y conciliando información de al menos veinte fuentes confiables de información, para permitir conocer los principales indicadores de la Sociedad de la Información, al menos en tres grandes niveles de desagregación: contexto mundial, contexto continental y situación de los países. Los indicadores mencionados comprenden accesibilidad, desarrollo de telecomunicaciones, infraestructura de Internet, comercio electrónico, lenguajes en la Red e indicadores representativos de ciencia y tecnología. El trabajo continúa y se estima que estará disponible "en red" en aproximadamente dos meses. (c) Estudio del estado de la Sociedad de la Información en América Latina: este proyecto de investigación, de naturaleza colectiva y abierta, ha culminado su fase de diseño y de términos de referencia. En el decurso del mes de junio comenzará a ser operativo, y se espera llegar con un diagnóstico adecuado hacia fines del presente año y convertirlo en un aporte independiente y trascendente para ser presentado en la Cumbre de la Sociedad de la Información en Junio de 2003. Informaciones y contribuciones en info sociedaddigital.org (d) Colección de estudios e información sobre aspectos prácticos del comercio electrónico: se constituirá en una de las secciones del Portal, considerada de alta utilidad. Se continúa trabajando en la clasificación de la biblioteca virtual aportada por el Consejero Hugo Gallegos de Perú y la sección se encontrará "en Red" en aproximadamente veinte días. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Usted recibe este mensaje porque su dirección de correo electrónico está incluida dentro de las más de 100.000 que conforman LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL, construida por referencias o bien por la relevancia de su trabajo, comunidad científica donde se discuten ideas, visiones, experiencias, prácticas e información sobre temas relacionados con La Sociedad de la Información, en especial en Ibero América, impulsada por la Asociación Civil sin fines de lucro La Sociedad Digital. Si quiere tramitar el ALTA o la BAJA, o remitir una dirección de correo electrónico a la comunidad, envíe un mensaje a info@sociedaddigital.org Si desea dar a conocer algún artículo, estudio u otro texto de su autoría o recomendarnos un trabajo de otro autor, envíe su material o recomendaciones a info sociedaddigital.org La Sociedad Digital es un esfuerzo nacido en el Uruguay, co participado por especialistas de toda Iberoamerica y dirigido a la comunidad digital ibero americana. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Visite nuestro Portal y consulte todos los recursos gratuitos de información y conocimiento sobre Sociedad de la Información disponibles en http://www.sociedaddigital.org Hasta nuestro próximo encuentro! Equipo de comunicación de LaSocDig. Boletim 1 / Outubro de 2002. LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL - PORTAL IBERO-AMERICANO DA SOCIEDADE DE INFORMAÇÃO www.sociedaddigital.org APRESENTAÇÃO La Sociedad Digital tem se constituído no principal portal da sociedade de informação da região ibero-americana, compreendendo, na atualidade, cerca de quinze seções com um total de documentos estimado em aproximadamente 800, que abordam as áreas mais importantes da sociedade da informação. Isto tem sido possível graças ao aporte e preocupação de um conjunto de especialistas dos dois lados do Atlântico, que se concentraram neste projeto aberto, cuja constituição, em sua expressão virtual, iniciou-se em outubro de 2001. No momento, a maior parte das seções do portal se encontra em funcionamento. O projeto vem se aperfeiçoando na seqüência das mesmas coordenadas estabelecidas em sua primeira fase: constituição ordenada de um reservatório de informações atualizadas e de elevada transcendência para a compreensão da sociedade da Rede, conjuntamente com as contribuições das equipes de La Sociedad Digital, produto da investigação coletiva, bem como outros aportes individuais dos membros de seu corpo de conselheiros, em suas respectivas especialidades. O Projeto Portal da Sociedade da Informação e suas seções disponíveis no endereço www.sociedaddigital.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ PROJETOS EM DESENVOLVIMENTO: Neste momento, La Sociedad Digital encontra-se desenvolvendo vários projetos novos, os quais se encontram em diferentes fases. Em síntese: (a) Aspectos operativos: o Portal se encontra em reformulação para uma apresentação futura mais amigável em sua relação com o usuário, com um desdobramento mais ágil de seus documentos e da correlação temática de seus conteúdos. (b) Sistema estatístico: dentro dos projetos de investigação a serem oportunamente implantados, elaborou-se um sistema estatístico que pudesse ser considerado como um dos mais completos do mundo, reunindo e conciliando informações extraídas de, pelo menos, vinte fontes confiáveis de informação, ao menos em três grandes níveis de desagregação: contexto mundial, contexto continental e situação dos países. Os indicadores mencionados compreendem: acessibilidade, desenvolvimento das telecomunicações, infraestrutura da Internet, comércio eletrônico, linguagens da Rede e indicadores representativos da ciência e tecnologia. O trabalho continua e se estima que estará disponível em, aproximadamente, dois meses. (c) Estudos sobre a Sociedade da Informação na América Latina: este projeto de investigação, de natureza coletiva e aberta, finalizou sua fase de elaboração e de termos de referência. No decurso do mês de junho entrou em operação e se espera chegar a um diagnóstico adequado até o final do ano, ocasião em que será convertido em aporte independente e transcendente, para ser apresentado à Cúpula da Sociedade de Informação, em junho de 2003. Informações e contribuições no info@sociedaddigital.org (d) Estudos sobre o comércio eletrônico na América Latina: o projeto, como o anterior, de natureza coletiva e aberta, também concretizou sua fase de elaboração e de termos de referência. Seu funcionamento está previsto para o decurso do mês de julho, culminando em dezembro de 2002. Estará contribuindo assim para a continuidade dos estudos que, a respeito do comércio eletrônico, desenvolveram-se na ALADI entre 2000 e 2001. Informações e contribuições no info@sociedaddigital.org (e) Coletâneas de estudos e informações sobre aspectos práticos do comércio eletrônico: será uma das seções do Portal, considerada de alta utilidade. Está em desenvolvimento o trabalho de classificação da biblioteca virtual, contribuição do Conselheiro Hugo Gallegos, do Peru. A seção estará disponível na Rede em, aproximadamente, vinte dias. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Você recebe essa mensagem porque seu correio eletrônico está incluído em mais de 100.000 que configuram LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL, comunidade científica, onde se discutem idéias, visões, experiências, práticas e informações sobre temas relacionados com a Sociedade da Informação, em especial na região ibero-americana, promovida pela associação civil sem fins lucrativos La Sociedad Digital, e pela Sociedad Digital Internet Research. Se desejar incluir, excluir ou redefinir a direção do correio eletrônico, envie uma mensagem para info@sociedaddigital.org Se desejar enviar algum artigo, estudo, texto de sua autoria ou recomendar o trabalho de outro autor, envie seu material ou recomendações a info@sociedaddigital.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Visite nosso Portal e consulte todos os recursos gratuitos de informação e conhecimento sobre Sociedade da Informação, disponíveis no endereço www.sociedaddigital.org Até nosso próximo encontro!!! Equipe de Comunicação de LaSocDig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 5 21: 6:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5473B37B401 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (kundera.3dresearch.com [209.195.180.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C65443E3B for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anclo@anclo.com) Received: from 3dresearch.com (mirror.3dresearch.com [209.195.180.5]) by smtp.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F9DA72C00 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 23:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209.195.180.12 (SquirrelMail authenticated user janos) by mirror.3dresearch.com with HTTP; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 00:12:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4025.209.195.180.12.1033877525.squirrel@mirror.3dresearch.com> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 00:12:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: unknown option "ICMP_BANDLIM" From: "Anclo" To: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to build my first custom kernel (4.6-RELEASE) and I'm getting the message: MYKERNEL:56: unknown option "ICMP_BANDLIM" Any idea why? Should I simply comment out option ICMP_BANDLIM? Thanx for any suggestions... Anclo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Oct 5 21:12:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46D637B401; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [66.11.168.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9061143E65; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:12:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@m20.unixathome.org) Received: by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 74B847A90; Sun, 6 Oct 2002 00:10:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-09-15 - 2002-10-05 Message-Id: <20021006041004.74B847A90@m20.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 00:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 4-Oct : Managing an IP address change - part 2 After the DNS propogation... http://freebsddiary.org/ip-address-change2.php?2 20-Sep : Serial Consoles can be very useful ...especially for remote boxes http://freebsddiary.org/serial-console.php?2 20-Sep : Changing your keyboard mapping Changing your keyboard mapping http://freebsddiary.org/kbdcontrol.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message