From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 17 0:10:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5036337B401; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 00:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [216.187.87.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4E343E42; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 00:10:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 076D0AE4C4; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-10-27 - 2002-11-16 Message-Id: <20021117081001.076D0AE4C4@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 13-Nov : CUPS (Common UNIX Printing System) - installation and configuration A portable printing layer for UNIX-based operating systems http://freebsddiary.org/cups.php?2 6-Nov : Postfix - virtual domains This is easier than it sounds.... http://freebsddiary.org/postfix.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 17 3:40:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83D337B401 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 03:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from c7.campus.utcluj.ro (c7.campus.utcluj.ro [193.226.6.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F55443E88 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 03:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zin@c7.campus.utcluj.ro) Received: (qmail 27195 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2002 11:40:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zin) (172.27.1.172) by mail.c7.campus.utcluj.ro with SMTP; 17 Nov 2002 11:40:34 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c28e2e$74006d20$ac011bac@zin> From: "Istvan Hoka" To: , Subject: nForce networking Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 13:42:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! My name is Hoka Istvan. I have recently installed FreeBSD and I am having problems with the networking module on my nForce chipset. Unlike previous posts about nForce networking I have read, suggesting that the networking chipset on nForce boards might be compatible with Realtek 8129/8139, my pciconf reports: none4@pci0:4:0: class=0x020000 card=0x373c1462 chip=0x01c310de rev=0xc2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corporation' device = 'nForce MCP Networking Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet I have an MSI K7N420 Pro motherboard. 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X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 03:22:51 +0300 Message-Id: <20021118002242.7142D43E4A@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Óâàæàåìûå ãîñïîäà! Ôèðìà "Òåõíèêà äëÿ îôèñà", ðàáîòàþùàÿ íà ðûíêå áîëåå 10 ëåò, îôèöèàëüíûé äèëåð SHARP, ýêñòðà - ðåñåëëåð XEROX, ïðåäëàãàåò Âàì äîëãîñðî÷íîå ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâî â îáëàñòè êîìïëåêñíîãî îáñëóæèâàíèÿ, ïîñòàâîê îôèñíîé îðãòåõíèêè è âñåãî íåîáõîäèìîãî îáîðóäîâàíèÿ îïòîì è â ðîçíèöó. Ìû ïðåäëàãàåì : 1. Ðåìîíò êîïèðîâàëüíûõ àïïàðàòîâ, ïðèíòåðîâ, ôàêñîâ, çàïðàâêó êàðòðèäæåé. Âîçìîæåí âûåçä èíæåíåðà. 2. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 19 10:13:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDCB837B401 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE4C43E88 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:13:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tamara@hub.org) Received: from localhost (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2728A4BE9 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:13:45 -0400 (AST) Received: from 24.138.54.159 ([24.138.54.159]) by webmail.hub.org (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:13:45 -0400 Message-ID: <1037729625.3dda7f59c943c@webmail.hub.org> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:13:45 -0400 From: tamara@hub.org To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: fortunes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I was wondering what package fortunes is in? I also would like to know where the freebsd-tips hints file is. Thank you Tamara Dunbar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 19 10:40:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FC837B401 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from c014.snv.cp.net (h009.c014.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FD4343E8A for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:40:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from klimenta@futurebit.com) Received: (cpmta 9215 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2002 10:40:46 -0800 Received: from 12.33.76.83 (HELO bigbeat) by smtp.cswebmail.com (209.228.35.83) with SMTP; 19 Nov 2002 10:40:46 -0800 X-Sent: 19 Nov 2002 18:40:46 GMT Message-ID: <000801c28ffb$5fe2af50$ca0110ac@vinyl.tkvbp.com> From: "Kliment Andreev" To: , References: <1037729625.3dda7f59c943c@webmail.hub.org> Subject: Re: fortunes Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:42:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I was wondering what package fortunes is in? I also would like to know where the > freebsd-tips hints file is. # cd /usr/share/games/fortune # vi freebsd-tips To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 20 1:32:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA3F37B401 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 01:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A498943E42 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 01:32:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz ([10.1.0.1]) by bellavista.cz (8.9.3/8.9.8) with ESMTP id KAA11656; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:32:07 +0100 Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8D1492FDAB2; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:31:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:31:01 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: tamara@hub.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fortunes Message-ID: <20021120093101.GH77198@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: tamara@hub.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <1037729625.3dda7f59c943c@webmail.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1037729625.3dda7f59c943c@webmail.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org # tamara@hub.org / 2002-11-19 14:13:45 -0400: > I was wondering what package fortunes is in? you can search the ports collection. see ports(7), look for "make search". > I also would like to know where the freebsd-tips hints file is. no idea. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 20 4:54:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731B737B401 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 04:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.FreeBSD.org (node-c-173f.a2000.nl [62.194.23.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F4C743E9C for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 04:54:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sandrasavimbi7@lycos.com) From: "sandra savimbi" Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:56:32 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: PLS GET BACK TO ME. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021120125440.5F4C743E9C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > DEAR FRIEND, > THIS LETTER MAY COME TO YOU AS A SURPRISE DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE > HAVE NOT YET MET. THE MESSAGE COULD BE STRANGE BUT REAL IF YOU PAY > SOME ATTENTION TO IT. I COULD HAVE NOTIFIED YOU ABOUT IT AT LEAST > FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR INTEGRITY. PLEASE ACCEPT MY SINCERE APOLOGIES. > IN BRINGING THIS MESSAGE OF GOODWILL TO YOU, I HAVE TO SAY THAT > I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF CAUSING YOU ANY PAINS. > I AM MRS. SANDRA SAVIMBI, DAUGHTER OF THE LATE REBEL LEADER JONAS > SAVIMBI OF ANGOLA WHO WAS KILLED ON THE 22ND OF FEBUARY 2002 . > MY LATE FATHER, JONAS SAVIMBI WAS ABLE TO DEPOSIT A LARGE SUM OF > MONEY IN DIFFERENT BANKS IN EUROPE AND THE MOVEMENT OF HIS FAMILY MEMBERS > (INCLUDING ME) IS RESTRICTED. WE ARE FORBIDDEN TO EITHER TRAVEL > ABROAD OR OUT OF OUR LOCALITIES. PRESENTLY, THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT > MILLION, FIVE > HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MY FATHER TRANSFERRED TO NETHERLANDS IS > SAFE AND IS WITH A SECURITY FIRM. I AM THEREFORE SOLICITING YOUR > HELP TO HAVE THIS MONEY TRANSFERRED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT BEFORE MY > GOVERNMENT GET WIND OF THIS FUND. YOU MAY KNOW THAT MY FATHER WAS > A REBEL LEADER IN ANGOLA BEFORE HIS DEATH AND MY REASON FOR DOING > THIS IS BECAUSE IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THE ANGOLAN GOVERNMENT > TO TRACE MY FATHER'S MONEY TO AN INDIVIDUAL'S ACCOUNT, ESPECIALLY > WHEN SUCH AN INDIVIDUAL HAS NO RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FATHER THEREBY > KEEPING THAT MONEY FOR MY FAMILY USE. AT PRESENT THE MONEY AS I > SAID IS KEPT IN A SECURITY COMPANY IN THE NETHERLAND. > I AM CURRENTLY AND TEMPORARILY LIVING IN ANGOLA WITH MY HUSBAND. MY > BROTHER HAS A REFUGEE STATUS IN THE NETHERLANDS. MOREOVER, THE POLITICAL > CLIMATE IN ANGOLA AT THE MOMENT IS SO SENSITIVE AND UNSTABLE SO > IT WILL BE BETTER WE DO THIS TRANSACTION NOW. > WITH THIS PASSWORD AND INFORMATION I WILL SEND YOU, AND THE CHANGE OF > OWNERSHIP THAT I WILL SEND TO THE SECURITY FIRM, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO > REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS TO CLAIM THIS CONSIGNMENT FROM THE > SECURITY FIRM. WHEN YOU ARE READY, I WILL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION > NEEDED BEFORE YOU CAN GET ACCESS TO THE FUND, YOU WILL THEN PROCEED > TO NETHERLANDS WHERE YOU WILL SIGN THE FINAL RELEASE DOCUMENTS OF > THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT, MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. > I WILL GIVE YOU FURTHER DETAILS WHEN I GET YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS LETTER > ASSURING US THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS > AND THAT YOU WILL MAKE THIS TRANSACTION CONFIDENTIAL. IT IS VERY > IMPORTANT THAT YOU GIVE ME YOUR PHONE AND FAX NUMBERS WHILE THIS IS KEPT > CONFIDENTIAL. > YOU CAN CONTACT ME WITH MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, sandrasavimbi7@lycos.com > YOU CAN ALSO SEND A COPY TO MY BROTHER WHO IS SEEKING ASSYLUM IN > THE NETHERLANDS ON;davidsavimbi1@hotmail.com > > YOURS SINCERELY, > SANDRA SAVIMBI. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 20 5:34: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7786E37B401 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 05:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA94F43E3B for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 05:34:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a217.otenet.gr [212.205.215.217]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAKDXWIx009751; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:33:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAKDXWVf002549; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:33:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAKDXUuf002548; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:33:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:33:28 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Roman Neuhauser Cc: tamara@hub.org, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fortunes Message-ID: <20021120133328.GB699@gothmog.gr> References: <1037729625.3dda7f59c943c@webmail.hub.org> <20021120093101.GH77198@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021120093101.GH77198@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-11-20 10:31, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # tamara@hub.org / 2002-11-19 14:13:45 -0400: > > I was wondering what package fortunes is in? > > you can search the ports collection. see ports(7), look for > "make search". fortune(6) is not a port. It's in the base system. > > I also would like to know where the freebsd-tips hints file is. > > no idea. % cd /usr/src/games/fortune/datfiles % ls -ld freebsd-tips -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel - 17213 Nov 16 17:09 freebsd-tips To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 20 6:52:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BAAB37B401 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 06:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DE043E4A for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 06:52:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:51:57 +0000 Received: from lexx (unverified [62.31.198.203]) by pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:51:57 +0000 From: John Murphy To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fortunes Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:51:57 +0000 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: <8i7ntuc59paav9b133p84ivv2s7tlbn71g@4ax.com> References: <1037729625.3dda7f59c943c@webmail.hub.org> <20021120093101.GH77198@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20021120133328.GB699@gothmog.gr> In-Reply-To: <20021120133328.GB699@gothmog.gr> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >fortune(6) is not a port. It's in the base system. > >> > I also would like to know where the freebsd-tips hints file is. >> >> no idea. > > % cd /usr/src/games/fortune/datfiles > % ls -ld freebsd-tips > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel - 17213 Nov 16 17:09 freebsd-tips > Also, you can install the games part of the base distribution via /stand/sysinstall. Choose Post install Configuration, Distributions, Games. The whole thing is only about 5Mbytes, 3.5M of which is fortune data files. To get a fortune from freebsd-tips simply type 'fortune freebsd-tips'. I find it rather soothing to use the xscreensaver program in StarWars mode which simulates the Star Wars film intro graphics, but with text from the fortune database :) --=20 John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 20 18: 8:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2733D37B404 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (node-c-173f.a2000.nl [62.194.23.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6218A43E3B for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:08:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sandrasav@lycos.com) From: "sandra savimbi" Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 03:10:36 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: PLS GET BACK TO ME. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021121020842.6218A43E3B@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DEAR FRIEND, THIS LETTER MAY COME TO YOU AS A SURPRISE DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NOT YET MET. THE MESSAGE COULD BE STRANGE BUT REAL IF YOU PAY SOME ATTENTION TO IT. I COULD HAVE NOTIFIED YOU ABOUT IT AT LEAST FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR INTEGRITY. PLEASE ACCEPT MY SINCERE APOLOGIES. IN BRINGING THIS MESSAGE OF GOODWILL TO YOU, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF CAUSING YOU ANY PAINS. I AM MRS. SANDRA SAVIMBI, DAUGHTER OF THE LATE REBEL LEADER JONAS SAVIMBI OF ANGOLA WHO WAS KILLED ON THE 22ND OF FEBUARY 2002 . MY LATE FATHER, JONAS SAVIMBI WAS ABLE TO DEPOSIT A LARGE SUM OF MONEY IN DIFFERENT BANKS IN EUROPE AND THE MOVEMENT OF HIS FAMILY MEMBERS (INCLUDING ME) IS RESTRICTED. WE ARE FORBIDDEN TO EITHER TRAVEL ABROAD OR OUT OF OUR LOCALITIES. PRESENTLY, THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MY FATHER TRANSFERRED TO NETHERLANDS IS SAFE AND IS WITH A SECURITY FIRM. I AM THEREFORE SOLICITING YOUR HELP TO HAVE THIS MONEY TRANSFERRED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT BEFORE MY GOVERNMENT GET WIND OF THIS FUND. YOU MAY KNOW THAT MY FATHER WAS A REBEL LEADER IN ANGOLA BEFORE HIS DEATH AND MY REASON FOR DOING THIS IS BECAUSE IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THE ANGOLAN GOVERNMENT TO TRACE MY FATHER'S MONEY TO AN INDIVIDUAL'S ACCOUNT, ESPECIALLY WHEN SUCH AN INDIVIDUAL HAS NO RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FATHER THEREBY KEEPING THAT MONEY FOR MY FAMILY USE. AT PRESENT THE MONEY AS I SAID IS KEPT IN A SECURITY COMPANY IN THE NETHERLAND. I AM CURRENTLY AND TEMPORARILY LIVING IN ANGOLA WITH MY HUSBAND. MY BROTHER HAS A REFUGEE STATUS IN THE NETHERLANDS. MOREOVER, THE POLITICAL CLIMATE IN ANGOLA AT THE MOMENT IS SO SENSITIVE AND UNSTABLE SO IT WILL BE BETTER WE DO THIS TRANSACTION NOW. WITH THIS PASSWORD AND INFORMATION I WILL SEND YOU, AND THE CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP THAT I WILL SEND TO THE SECURITY FIRM, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS TO CLAIM THIS CONSIGNMENT FROM THE SECURITY FIRM. WHEN YOU ARE READY, I WILL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION NEEDED BEFORE YOU CAN GET ACCESS TO THE FUND, YOU WILL THEN PROCEED TO NETHERLANDS WHERE YOU WILL SIGN THE FINAL RELEASE DOCUMENTS OF THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT, MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. I WILL GIVE YOU FURTHER DETAILS WHEN I GET YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS LETTER ASSURING US THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS AND THAT YOU WILL MAKE THIS TRANSACTION CONFIDENTIAL. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GIVE ME YOUR PHONE AND FAX NUMBERS WHILE THIS IS KEPT CONFIDENTIAL. YOU CAN CONTACT ME WITH MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, sandrasav@lycos.com YOU CAN ALSO SEND A COPY TO MY BROTHER WHO IS SEEKING ASSYLUM IN THE NETHERLANDS ON, YOURS SINCERELY, SANDRA SAVIMBI. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 20 18:24:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C211D37B401 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:24:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (node-c-173f.a2000.nl [62.194.23.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACDBA43F41 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:24:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sandrasav@lycos.com) From: "sandra savimbi" Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 03:26:21 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: PLS GET BACK TO ME. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021121022427.ACDBA43F41@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DEAR FRIEND, THIS LETTER MAY COME TO YOU AS A SURPRISE DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NOT YET MET. THE MESSAGE COULD BE STRANGE BUT REAL IF YOU PAY SOME ATTENTION TO IT. I COULD HAVE NOTIFIED YOU ABOUT IT AT LEAST FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR INTEGRITY. PLEASE ACCEPT MY SINCERE APOLOGIES. IN BRINGING THIS MESSAGE OF GOODWILL TO YOU, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF CAUSING YOU ANY PAINS. I AM MRS. SANDRA SAVIMBI, DAUGHTER OF THE LATE REBEL LEADER JONAS SAVIMBI OF ANGOLA WHO WAS KILLED ON THE 22ND OF FEBUARY 2002 . MY LATE FATHER, JONAS SAVIMBI WAS ABLE TO DEPOSIT A LARGE SUM OF MONEY IN DIFFERENT BANKS IN EUROPE AND THE MOVEMENT OF HIS FAMILY MEMBERS (INCLUDING ME) IS RESTRICTED. WE ARE FORBIDDEN TO EITHER TRAVEL ABROAD OR OUT OF OUR LOCALITIES. PRESENTLY, THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MY FATHER TRANSFERRED TO NETHERLANDS IS SAFE AND IS WITH A SECURITY FIRM. I AM THEREFORE SOLICITING YOUR HELP TO HAVE THIS MONEY TRANSFERRED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT BEFORE MY GOVERNMENT GET WIND OF THIS FUND. YOU MAY KNOW THAT MY FATHER WAS A REBEL LEADER IN ANGOLA BEFORE HIS DEATH AND MY REASON FOR DOING THIS IS BECAUSE IT WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THE ANGOLAN GOVERNMENT TO TRACE MY FATHER'S MONEY TO AN INDIVIDUAL'S ACCOUNT, ESPECIALLY WHEN SUCH AN INDIVIDUAL HAS NO RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FATHER THEREBY KEEPING THAT MONEY FOR MY FAMILY USE. AT PRESENT THE MONEY AS I SAID IS KEPT IN A SECURITY COMPANY IN THE NETHERLAND. I AM CURRENTLY AND TEMPORARILY LIVING IN ANGOLA WITH MY HUSBAND. MY BROTHER HAS A REFUGEE STATUS IN THE NETHERLANDS. MOREOVER, THE POLITICAL CLIMATE IN ANGOLA AT THE MOMENT IS SO SENSITIVE AND UNSTABLE SO IT WILL BE BETTER WE DO THIS TRANSACTION NOW. WITH THIS PASSWORD AND INFORMATION I WILL SEND YOU, AND THE CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP THAT I WILL SEND TO THE SECURITY FIRM, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS TO CLAIM THIS CONSIGNMENT FROM THE SECURITY FIRM. WHEN YOU ARE READY, I WILL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION NEEDED BEFORE YOU CAN GET ACCESS TO THE FUND, YOU WILL THEN PROCEED TO NETHERLANDS WHERE YOU WILL SIGN THE FINAL RELEASE DOCUMENTS OF THE US$8,500,000.00 EIGHT, MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. I WILL GIVE YOU FURTHER DETAILS WHEN I GET YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS LETTER ASSURING US THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REPRESENT US IN THE NETHERLANDS AND THAT YOU WILL MAKE THIS TRANSACTION CONFIDENTIAL. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GIVE ME YOUR PHONE AND FAX NUMBERS WHILE THIS IS KEPT CONFIDENTIAL. YOU CAN CONTACT ME WITH MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, sandrasav@lycos.com YOU CAN ALSO SEND A COPY TO MY BROTHER WHO IS SEEKING ASSYLUM IN THE NETHERLANDS ON, YOURS SINCERELY, SANDRA SAVIMBI. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 20 19:11:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041D037B404; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from yahoo.ca (modemcable040.226-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.201.226.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1A8743EA9; Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:11:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Didier__b_r@yahoo.ca) Reply-To: Message-ID: <024a36e01c1b$8767a4c5$6ae55ee0@ecncqk> From: To: Didier_b_r@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Épargnez de 15% à 80% sur vos coûts publicitaires ! Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:56:13 +1000 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Du bureau de Didier Bonneville-Roussy St-Barthélemy Cher ami et entrepreneur, Ceci est le premier numéro de la Lettre du marketing géométrique. Le coût de l'abonnement pour un an est de 197$. Par contre, j'ai décidé de vous envoyer cette première lettre gratuitement et de vous offrir un abonnement d'essai de trois mois pour seulement 7$. Lisez attentivement les informations que je vous livre dans ces huit pages et décidez-vous dans les 15 jours. Il y a 7 ans, lorsque j'ai commencé en marketing, je me suis rendu compte que je pouvais épargner des sommes considérables en frais de publicité en étudiant de manière approfondie la nature de la relation entre les médias et les agences de publicité, ainsi qu'entre les médias et les organismes communautaires. J'ai remarqué deux choses: les agences paient toujours moins que les autres entreprises et les organismes communautaires paient toujours moins que les agence de publicités pour faire paraître leurs annonces. J'ai découvert comment payer en tout temps le même prix que les agences (rabais de 15%) et dans certaines circonstances le même prix que les organismes communautaires (50% de rabais). Si vous me laissez vous expliquer comment tout cela fonctionne, vous serez, vous aussi, avant la fin de cette lettre, en mesure d'épargner de 15% à 80% sur vos coûts publicitaires, et même, dans certains cas, d'obtenir des pages et des pages de publicités gratuites. Commençons par les agences. À peu près tous les médias, radio, télé, journaux, magazines, les agents de listes et les sites internet offrent un rabais automatique de 15% aux agences de publicité qui placent des annonces. Lorsqu'on regarde dans le CARD (Canadian Advertising Rates And Data) et le SRDS (Standard Rates And Data Service), qui sont les deux répertoires des tarifs publicitaires, nous pouvons noter trois types de rabais: 1. Rabais au volume présenté sous forme de prix réduit par ligne agate ou sous forme de prix réduit pour un nombre prédéterminé d'insertions en un an; 2. Un rabais de 15% aux agences; 3. Un rabais pour paiement rapide (généralement de 2%). Le CARD et le SRDS portent tous deux la mention «rabais offert aux agences reconnues seulement», lorsque l'agence de publicité peut bénéficier d'un rabais. Cette mention ne vaut rien. En fait oui, elle vaut quelque chose, dans la mesure où elle vous dissuade de demander le rabais de 15% normalement attribué à l'agence, si vous ne faites pas partie d'une agence reconnue. Mais ça, les représentants publicitaires dans les différents médias ne vous le disent pas. Pourquoi? Parce qu'ils sont rémunérés à la commission et qu'il ont tout avantage à ne pas vous le dire. De plus, si vous faites vraiment partie d'une agence, vous utilisez nécessairement le CARD et le SRDS et vous savez qu'il y a de tels rabais. Voici le premier secret: il n'existe rien de tel qu'une agence reconnue. N'importe quel zouave de Saint-Clin-clin peut-être une agence reconnue. Mon petit frère de neuf ans pourrait, demain matin, devenir une agence reconnue s'il disait ces neuf petits mots: «Je veux le rabais que vous attribuez aux agences.» Certains médias sont plus désagréables que d'autres et ne vous accorderont pas de rabais pour l'agence si votre compagnie ne porte pas un nom qui ressemble vaguement à celui d'une agence de publicité. Mais, si vous êtes intelligent, ce que je crois puisque vous me lisez, vous allez courir au palais de justice et vous enregistrer un nom d'entreprise du genre «Bingo Marketing» pour 45$ et rappeler ce représentant et lui dire que vous appellez maintenant d'une agence reconnue. Et vous voilà maintenant agence reconnue. Vous avez droit à un rabais de 15%. De plus, vous avez aussi droit au rabais pour paiement rapide de 2% si vos encaisses vous le permettent. C'est, en tout, 17% de rabais sur tous vos achats publicitaires que je viens de vous faire épargner. Ceci est valable pour les journaux, les magazines, la radio, la télévision, les sites internet, les agents de listes, les posters, les publi-sacs, etc. Maintenant, pour le rabais de type volume, je ne vous conseille en aucun cas de l'utiliser et surtout si une agence vous le propose. D'ailleurs, je défie n'importe qu'elle agence sur ce sujet. Prenez votre bottin et demandez-leur comment épargner de l'argent sur vos achats publicitaires. Écoutez attentivement la merde qu'ils vous servent et comparez l'information que je vous donne ici. Il n'y a aucune commune mesure. Revenons au rabais de type volume. En gros, c'est une proposition qui ne peut que défavoriser l'annonceur. D'abord, les rabais sont ridiculement bas, généralement quelques dollars sur des milliers, ensuite, d'un point de vue strictment marketing géométrique, c'est le meilleur moyen de vous faire avoir. Voici pourquoi: Il s'agit de contrats fondés sur l'utilisation du média sur une période d'un an. Par exemple vous recevez un rabais de X% si vous placez 4 pleines pages ou plus sur un an. Si vous vous rendez compte que vos annonces ne sont pas profitables et que vous décidez de ne pas honorer le contrat, vous paierez le plein prix plus une pénalité. Je pourrais vous donner des milliers de raisons pour ne pas honorer un contrat publicitaire. Et il y en a autant de bonnes. Il me suffit simplement de dire que je préfère nettement payer un peu plus cher et limiter mon risque. Ensuite, les contrats vous empêchent de prendre d'autres types de rabais non annoncés que vous DEVEZ demander vous même pour les obtenir. Le premier type de rabais que peu de gens connaissent est le rabais «premier annonceur». Lorsque vous contactez un journal, une station de radio, de télé, une revue, un site internet ou un gestionnaire de liste, demandez s'il y a un rabais «premier annonceur». Il y en a généralement un. Il varie de 15% à 25%. Maintenant, à la différence des contrats sur le volume, ces rabais «premiers annonceurs» peuvent être valides pour une période prédéterminée qui peut s'étendre jusqu'à un an. Lorsque vous demandez ce type de rabais, assurez-vous de sceller le prix pour une période d'au moins trois mois. Par exemple, au lieu de payer 354$ pour un quart de pages dans l'Expression de Joliette, vous ne paierez que 285$ par parution pendant les trois premiers mois. Faites attention. Les représentants publicitaires sont comme des rapaces sans vergogne. Si vous achetez votre publicité en décembre et que l'on vous dit que ce prix est valide jusqu'à la fin de l'année, cela ne veut pas dire jusqu'en décembre de l'année suivante, mais jusqu'au mois de janvier. Un mois au lieu de 12. Cela fait toute une différence. Maintenant, écoutez-moi bien. Tous ces rabais sont commissionnables, c'est-à-dire que si vous obtenez 20% de rabais comme «premier annonceur» vous pouvez aussi obtenir le 15% de rabais supplémentaire d'une agence plus le rabais de 2% pour paiement rapide. Une publicité qui vous coûtait 1000$ vous en coûterait seulement 627,20$, soit un rabais de 37,28%. Comment les organismes à but non lucratif et les services publics peuvent vous faire épargner gros, TRÈS GROS. Nous sommes en pleine campagne de financement de Centraide. Ces deux derniers mois, Centraide à été un des plus gros annonceurs au Canada. Et pourtant, Centraide ne paie pas la moitié de ce que d'autres compagnies paient pour s'annoncer. Pourquoi? Parce que les organismes communautaires et les services publics comme les SADC ont des tarifs préférentiels, quand ils ne se font pas carrément donner les espaces publicitaires. Vous avez certainement remarqué que depuis quelques années, TVA, TQS Global et CFCF 12 passent des infopubs aux heures de basse écoute. Vous avez sans doute remarqué que, très souvent, les stations de radio et de télé, les journaux et les revues, annoncent leurs propres suppléments, émissions spéciales et présentent des annonces de services publics. C'est ce que j'appelle des fillers. Ces publicités sont là pour une chose: ne pas vous présenter 30 secondes d'écran noir, de plat sonore ou ne pas présenter de pages blanches. Ces temps d'antenne et ces espaces publicitaires ne rapportent rien à la station ou à la publication. À chaque jour ou à chaque publication, à peu près 5% à 10% de l'espace publicitaire est invendu ou non utilisé pour cause de problème technique. C'est là que vous pouvez épargner beaucoup. Ces espaces sont généralement donnés ou vendus à prix ridicules aux services publics et aux organismes communautaires. Une autre preuve courante que les médias perdent énormément d'argent sur les espaces invendus est la publicité interne, comme l'annonce d'émission de radio, de cahiers spéciaux, etc. Par exemple, je sais que la Presse du 16 novembre 2002 avait un inventaire de 21 250$ invendu dans le cahier affaires seulement. Soit 2 demi pages et 1 quart de page. Comme je n'ai pas porté très attention aux autres cahiers, je ne saurais me prononcer sur le reste. Ceci étant dit, n'appelez pas votre représentant publicitaire pour lui demander. Il vous répondra non, ou vous dira qu'il ne sait pas de quoi vous parlez. D'abord, il n'a aucun intérêt à vous dire que des demi pages sont disponibles pour une bouchée de pain. Ensuite les représentants publicitaires ne sont pas au courant de ce qui arrive aux espaces invendus. Certains pourraient s'échapper et vous faire découvrir le pot-aux-roses. Je sais, vous ne lisez pas ceci pour connaître mon opinion sur les représentants publicitaires, mais pour épargner un paquet de bidoux sur votre prochaine campagne. Dans ce cas, écoutez. Vous n'êtes ni propriétaire de journal, ni dirigeant de services publics ou de groupe à but non-lucratif, mais vous pouvez épargner jusqu'à 80% sur vos coûts publicitaires en suivant ma démarche pas à pas. Ce que vous devez savoir est que vous n'avez pas la possibilité de choisir votre emplacement, ni la date de parution lorsque vous fonctionnez avec les espaces invendus. Il est aussi inutile de demander aux représentants publicitaires comment procéder. Votre publicité doit être prête et dans les mains dea médias au moment où ils sont prêt à la faire paraître. Autre chose à savoir: les imprimés ont toujours un coût intrinsèque à la parution d'une publicité. Ces coûts sont reliés à la production de l'épreuve et l'impression de votre annonce, alors ne leur faites pas l'insulte de leur offrir une somme riducule. Ce n'est pas le cas pour les médias électroniques tels que la télé, la radio et internet. Pour les médias électroniques vous pouvez facilement obtenir jusqu'à 80% de rabais. Il faut absolument que vous laissiez paraître à votre interlocuteur que vous connaissez les règles du jeu. Voici ce que vous devez faire: 1. Préparez votre publicité. Un mécanique (négatif de votre annonce) pour les imprimés et une cassette pour les radios et télés. 2. Faites une liste des directeurs de vente chez les médias que vous voulez utiliser; eux seuls ont le pouvoir de prendre une décision. Vous pouvez obtenir cette liste dans le CARD ou le SRDS qui sont disponibles dans les bibliothèques universitaires et certaines bibliothèques municipales. 3. Préparez un chèque au nom du média en question pour un montant équivalent à 42% du tarif normal pour les imprimés et 20% pour les média électroniques. Maintenant rédigez une lettre d'une page contenant tous les éléments suivants: ¸ Expliquez qu'un de vos clients à exprimé sont intérêt de faire paraître sa publicité dans le média en question; ¸ Que vous avez dû l'en dissuader après avoir comparé les coûts avec d'autres publications du même genre; ¸ Que dans ces publications, la publicité n'est profitable que lorsque vous travaillez sur des espaces invendus; ¸ Expliquez ce qu'est un espace invendu et ce que le média en fait généralement; ¸ Expliquez que vous avez émis un chèque équivalent à 42% du tarif régulier (50% + le 15% à l'agence) et que vous avez envoyé un mécanique de l'annonce. Le montant peut descendre jusqu'à 20% pour les médias électroniques; ¸ Dites que le média peut encaisser le chèque dès qu'il fera paraître la publicité sous ces conditions ou détruire le chèque et l'annonce s'il refuse; ¸ Donnez votre numéro de téléphone au cas où votre interlocuteur aurait une question; Et envoyez-la par Federal Express, Purolator ou UPS. Voici ce qui va arriver. Une certaine proportion de média vont rejeter votre offre. Certains vont l'accepter et la vaste majorité va vous contacter pour négocier un tarif préférentiel plus élevé que votre proposition. C'est à peu près tout ce que j'ai à dire sur le sujet ce mois-ci. Il me reste quelques trucs dans mon sac à surprise que je vous dévoilerai dans d'autres lettres. Chaque mois, vous recevrez un numéro comme celui-ci. Plein de trucs et de secrets marketing inconnus du public. En fait, la plupart des consultants en marketing et agences de publicité n'ont jamais utilisé, ni même entendu parler de ces techniques et stratégies. Abonnez-vous pour trois mois pour seulement 7$ La lettre du marketing géométrique sera vendue à 197$ par année dans quelques semaines. Mais, durant la période de lancement, vous pouvez prendre un abonnement de trois mois pour seulement 7$. Je sais très bien que les gens d'affaires réellement interressés à utiliser les stratégies que je présente reconnaîtront la valeur de la Lettre du marketing géométrique. Je sais qu'après votre abonnement d'essai, vous en voudrez plus et que vous renouvellerez votre abonnement au tarif régulier. Pour quelqu'un qui fait un minimum de publicité, cette première lettre, à elle seule, vaut très certainement le prix de l'abonnement. Les stratégies incluses dans cette lettre ne sont qu'un pâle échantillon de ce que j'ai à vous offrir. Comme le dit mon ami et client Mathieu Lagarde «En une heure l'information et les idées de Didier m'ont été plus utiles que tous les livres et séminaires que j'ai lus et étudiés sur les affaires». Abonnez-vous avant le 1ier décembre 2002 pour seulement 7$, vous recevrez trois lettres comme celle-ci par la poste au cours des trois prochains mois. didierroussy@hotmail.com Envoyez maintenant votre chèque ou mandat poste à l'ordre de: Didier Bonneville-Roussy 692 Rang York, St-Barthélemy Québec J0K 1XO Sincèrement, Didier Bonneville-Roussy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ne plus resevoire ce courriel : Didier_b_r@yahoo.ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 21 4:11:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3A137B401; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 04:11:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from wec.teleline.ru (wec.teleline.ru [81.18.138.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4AD43E4A; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 04:11:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info@ruspost.ru) Received: from Sender (unknown [192.168.0.64]) by wec.teleline.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id DF41D4629E; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:35:08 +0300 (MSK) From: Ruspost To: "Äîáðûé äðóã!" <> Subject: Ðóñïîñò - áóìàæíîå ïèñüìî ÷åðåç èíòåðíåò Organization: Ruspost Reply-To: info@ruspost.ru X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:36:21 +0300 Message-Id: <20021121093508.DF41D4629E@wec.teleline.ru> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org www.ruspost.ru - îòïðàâü áóìàæíîå ïèñüìî ðîäíûì è äðóçüÿì, íå îòõîäÿ îò êîìïüþòåðà! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 21 10: 1:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56A937B410 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.telissant.com (h-66-167-251-2.PHLAPAFG.covad.net [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 991F143E6E for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:01:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anclo@anclo.com) Received: from localhost (locke [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91ACB138600 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by smtp.telissant.com (Postfix, from userid 33) id A048813856D; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:00:55 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: setting up system accounts with adduser Message-ID: <1037901655.3ddd1f574af66@vmail.3dresearch.com> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:00:55 -0500 (EST) From: anclo@anclo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 209.195.177.46 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS new-20020517 X-Razor-id: 7181b0d8d1ba24a112c2c0b13c1314684e3d12ee X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_02_03,USER_AGENT Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, I'm trying to set up the system accounts Gdnscache and Gdnslog needed for djbdns. How should I set the home directory for these? Should it be /etc/dnscache? Do system accounts need a home directory at all? Thank you for any help, Anclo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 21 10:24:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1693B37B401 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:24:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.telissant.com (h-66-167-251-2.PHLAPAFG.covad.net [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7890643E8A for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:24:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anclo@anclo.com) Received: from localhost (locke [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410A0138448; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from leporello.anclo.com (13.myma1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.177.46]) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A33136E9F; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:24:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021121131936.0262f0e0@imap.telissant.com> X-Sender: anclo@imap.telissant.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:24:22 -0500 To: fcash@sd73.bc.ca, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Anclo Subject: Re: setting up system accounts with adduser In-Reply-To: <200211211013.34680.fcash@sd73.bc.ca> References: <1037901655.3ddd1f574af66@vmail.3dresearch.com> <1037901655.3ddd1f574af66@vmail.3dresearch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS new-20020517 X-Razor-id: c6de8727754e12127bddf2842623230f5c3d7017 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:13 PM 11/21/2002, you wrote: >On Thursday 21 November 2002 10:00, anclo@anclo.com wrote: > > I'm trying to set up the system accounts Gdnscache and Gdnslog needed for > > djbdns. > > > How should I set the home directory for these? Should it be /etc/dnscache? > > > Do system accounts need a home directory at all? > >/nonexistent works great in cases like these. This is the home directory >that >Apache and the like use. Thanx! >Question: Why are you using the ports tree to install djbdns which does all >this for you, plus will allow you to easily upgrade djbdns in the future? >That's what the ports tree is there for, afterall. :) Well, I have installed djbdns from the ports tree, /usr/ports/net/djbdns... Anclo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 21 18: 1:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EE037B401 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:01:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout5-0.nyroc.rr.com (mailout5-0.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4F943E42 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:01:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adstro@stny.rr.com) Received: from osirus (bgm-66-24-226-136.stny.rr.com [66.24.226.136]) by mailout5-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/RoadRunner 1.20) with ESMTP id gAM21DF23319 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:01:17 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Adam Stroud To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Samba Problem Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:02:51 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200211212102.51594.adstro@stny.rr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am relatively new to FreeBSD. I have been using Linux for about a year= and=20 I have decided to make the change to FreeBSD. I currently have one compu= ter=20 running Win98, one running RedHat Linux and one running FreeBSD. I am ha= ving=20 trouble connecting to the smb shares on the Linux box from the FreeBSD bo= x. =20 =46rom the BSD box, I can connect to the windows shares, but when I try t= o=20 mount the Linux shares I got "smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr =3D= =20 Authentication error". What really has me puzzled is the fact that the=20 FreeBSD box originally had Linux on it and I had no problem connecting to= the=20 other Linux box with samba. Any insight would be appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 22 14:35:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9C137B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.wlv.untd.com (smtp01.wlv.untd.com [209.247.163.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD9F043E91 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:35:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gick@netzero.net) Received: (qmail 27740 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2002 22:35:26 -0000 Received: from dialup-65.57.26.173.dial1.kansascity1.level3.net (HELO main.netzero.net) (65.57.26.173) by smtp01.wlv.untd.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2002 22:35:26 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20021122163337.00aa9af0@pop.netzero.net> X-Sender: gick@pop.netzero.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:41:40 -0600 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org From: Bill Baird Subject: getting on the internet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just installed BSD 4.4 and I have the basics set up with the X windows system. First thing I want to be able to do is get on the Internet. I tried to "make netscape47-navigator" but I get an error message saying that "GenericUserFolder-1-2-3.tgz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/zope/." and several error messages follow wich I assume is due to the initial error stated above. I can't seem to find simple instructions to getting on the Internet. Also I have an existing account with "netzero.net", can I use this with BSD. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 22 14:46:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C635737B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.acuson.com (thor.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B63543E4A for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:46:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H60003SK1WKLQ@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:45:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:41:29 -0800 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-188.acuson.com [157.226.46.188]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id V00L3901; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:43:33 -0800 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:45:53 -0800 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: getting on the internet In-reply-to: <4.3.2.7.2.20021122163337.00aa9af0@pop.netzero.net> To: Bill Baird , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <200211221445.53471.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <4.3.2.7.2.20021122163337.00aa9af0@pop.netzero.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday 22 November 2002 02:41 pm, Bill Baird wrote: > I just installed BSD 4.4 and I have the basics set up with the X windows > system. First thing I want to be able to do is get on the Internet. I > tried to "make netscape47-navigator" but I get an error message saying that > "GenericUserFolder-1-2-3.tgz doesn't seem to exist in > /usr/ports/distfiles/zope/." and several error messages follow wich I > assume is due to the initial error stated above. I can't seem to > find simple instructions to getting on the Internet. Also I have an > existing account with "netzero.net", can I use this with BSD. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. I don't know why it's trying to pull in stuff from zope. Assuming you have 4.4 CD's, try installing the package direct from the CD instead. Mozilla is another good choice. If netzero.net is your typical internet provider, then it won't matter what OS you are using. You might not get support, but they won't be blocking you. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 22 19:10: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1D237B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABBF43E88 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAN3A1x3006751 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gAN3A1kt006748 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200211230310.gAN3A1kt006748@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 23 13:46:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6212337B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 13:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from smart.eusc.inter.net (smart.eusc.inter.net [213.73.101.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904A443EA3 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 13:46:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plexus@snafu.de) Received: from pd9eb1569.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.235.21.105] helo=snafu.de) by smart.eusc.inter.net with asmtp (Exim 3.36 #4) id 18Fi6Y-0004pJ-00; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:46:22 +0100 Message-ID: <3DDFF437.2010007@snafu.de> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:33:43 +0100 From: "Fischer, Oliver" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20021114 X-Accept-Language: de-de, de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Stroud Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba Problem References: <200211212102.51594.adstro@stny.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you have a copy of the smb.conf from the linux box, try this one or compare it. Second, you can increase the log level in the smb.conf and check the logs for helpfull messages. Bye Oliver Adam Stroud wrote: > I am relatively new to FreeBSD. I have been using Linux for about a year and > I have decided to make the change to FreeBSD. I currently have one computer > running Win98, one running RedHat Linux and one running FreeBSD. I am having > trouble connecting to the smb shares on the Linux box from the FreeBSD box. > From the BSD box, I can connect to the windows shares, but when I try to > mount the Linux shares I got "smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = > Authentication error". What really has me puzzled is the fact that the > FreeBSD box originally had Linux on it and I had no problem connecting to the > other Linux box with samba. Any insight would be appreciated. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Oliver Fischer - plexus[AT]snafu[DOT]de [de] Das Internet stammt aus dem letzten Jahrtausend! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 23 21:10:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D55137B401; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:10:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [66.11.168.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9A743EA3; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:10:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@m20.unixathome.org) Received: by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 916267A69; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 00:10:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-11-03 - 2002-11-23 Message-Id: <20021124051004.916267A69@m20.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 00:10:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 6-Nov : Postfix - virtual domains This is easier than it sounds.... http://freebsddiary.org/postfix.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 23 22: 0:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33DC37B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D9943E9C for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:00:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (58ba8a6e63c30517cae2e6483458706d@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAO5u8Un022055; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:56:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 21:56:08 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Bill Baird Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: getting on the internet In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20021122163337.00aa9af0@pop.netzero.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Bill Baird wrote: > I just installed BSD 4.4 and I have the basics set up with the X windows > system. First thing I want to be able to do is get on the Internet. I > tried to "make netscape47-navigator" but I get an error message saying that > "GenericUserFolder-1-2-3.tgz doesn't seem to exist in > /usr/ports/distfiles/zope/." and several error messages follow wich I > assume is due to the initial error stated above. I can't seem to > find simple instructions to getting on the Internet. Also I have an > existing account with "netzero.net", can I use this with BSD. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. > First you set up your network connection; that depends on whether you dial in (use ppp) or connect with a DSL or cable modem. There are some fairly basic instructions in the book but also the manual page for ppp and the Handbook should help. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 23 22:15: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F6237B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B297143E6E for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:15:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (990030608066ffe4b27ab37b965035cc@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAO646Un022079; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:04:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:04:06 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: tamara@hub.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fortunes In-Reply-To: <1037729625.3dda7f59c943c@webmail.hub.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 tamara@hub.org wrote: > > > Hi, > > I was wondering what package fortunes is in? I also would like to know where the > freebsd-tips hints file is. > > Thank you > Tamara Dunbar > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > Also locate freebsd-tips is a way to find it. The fortune program may be run when you log in, however, from .login or .profile in your home directory. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 23 22:19:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDAD37B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from megahost.igs.net (megahost.igs.net [216.58.97.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2067243E3B for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:19:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slipstream@dimension-8.net) Received: from slipstream (i216-58-101-234.igs.net [216.58.101.234]) by megahost.igs.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAO6KOI66602 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 01:20:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from slipstream@dimension-8.net) Message-ID: <000901c29381$806ee250$0101a8c0@slipstream> From: "Martin Guindon" To: Subject: PPPoE? Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 01:19:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm having problems configuring PPPoE. I followed the instructions in the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pppoe.html) and created the following ppp.conf: # ppp.conf default: set log Phase tun command # you can add more detailed logging if you wish set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 igs: set device PPPoE:xl0 set authname mylogin@igs.net set authkey mypassword set dial set login add default HISADDR # end of ppp.conf When I dial (ppp -ddial igs), I get no error output, but if I try to connect or ping something I get a no route to host. Any clues to provide? I'm using FreeBSD 4.7 so from what I understand there is nothing special to do in the kernel. Thanks, Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message