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Murray Stokely writes:
> > This is another MFC candidate.. it prevents a kernel panic and has
> > been tested on -stable. Below is the -stable patch.
>
> Ok this is approved, thanks. It would be very much appreciated if you
> could post a note to freebsd-qa letting user's know how they can help
> stress test this.
Sure...
1. Put a Windows machine (IP address X) and a FreeBSD machine (IP address Y)
on the network somewhere.
2. Install the mpd-netgraph port on the FreeBSD machine and set it up
as a PPTP server. Configure IPCP so that the client gets IP address Y
(e.g., "set ipcp ranges X.X.X.X Y.Y.Y.Y").
3. Using Microsoft VPN adapter, connect to the FreeBSD machine via PPTP
Before this patch, you would get a kernel panic soon after the connection
was established. After, mpd should detect an error writing data (EDEADLK)
and close the connection, no panic.
Thanks,
-Archie
__________________________________________________________________________
Archie Cobbs * Packet Design * http://www.packetdesign.com
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Recently ran into the following circumstance on a server with about a 15
day uptime (and hence about a 15-day old version of -STABLE):
tcp4 0 33090 204.156.12.50.80 213.197.75.52.2378 FIN_WAIT_1
tcp4 0 33304 204.156.12.50.80 198.54.202.4.24052 FIN_WAIT_1
tcp4 0 32120 204.156.12.50.80 24.27.14.83.50129 FIN_WAIT_1
tcp4 0 33089 204.156.12.50.80 213.197.75.52.2381 FIN_WAIT_1
tcp4 0 33304 204.156.12.50.80 198.54.202.4.23509 FIN_WAIT_1
tcp4 0 33304 204.156.12.50.80 212.182.63.102.28130 FIN_WAIT_1
tcp4 0 33304 204.156.12.50.80 62.233.128.65.13712 FIN_WAIT_1
tcp4 0 33580 204.156.12.50.80 212.182.13.23.3473 LAST_ACK
tcp4 0 31856 204.156.12.50.80 198.54.202.4.20584 FIN_WAIT_1
tcp4 0 31856 204.156.12.50.80 212.182.63.102.29962 LAST_ACK
tcp4 0 33304 204.156.12.50.80 198.54.202.4.23960 FIN_WAIT_1
tcp4 0 31482 204.156.12.50.80 213.197.75.52.2373 FIN_WAIT_1
tcp4 0 32551 204.156.12.50.80 213.197.75.52.2374 FIN_WAIT_1
(on the order of hundreds of these), resulting in mbufs getting exhausted.
maxusers is set to 256, so nmbclusters is 4608, which was previously a
reasonable default. Presumably the problem I'm experiencing is that dud
connections have doubled in capacity due to a larger send queue size. I've
temporarily dropped the send queue max until I can reboot the machine to
increase nmbclusters, but this failure mode does seem unfortunate. It's
also worth considering adding a release note entry indicating that while
this can improve performance, it can also reduce scalability. I suppose
this shouldn't have caught me by surprise, but it did, since that server
had previously not had a problem... :-)
I don't suppose the TCP spec allows us to drain send socket queues in
FIN_WAIT_1 or LAST_ACK? :-) Any other bright suggestions on ways we can
make this change "safer"?
Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project
robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services
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Hi Alexey--
Just saw a bunch of RELENG_4 commits from you. Are you done with your
backout? (i.e. you're backing out the *.EUC -> *.euc??
rename, but the other locale changes are staying in?)
I'm trying to figure out if it's time for me to resurrect that part of
the release notes or not.
Thanks,
Bruce.
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The temptation here is one of two things:
(1) Back out the change increasing the send-q socket buffer size as a
default, and restore tuning(7) to recommend increasing the value, or
(2) To add the following text to the release notes:
In 4.5-RELEASE, default socket buffer sizes are increased to
maximize performance on high speed networks. However, under
some circumstances, this can dramatically increase the memory
requirements of the network system, requiring a manual
bumping of the kernel NMBCLUSTERS setting. This can be
set using kern.ipc.nmbclusters.
My temptation is to bump back (1) a bit, possibly to bump up the keepalive
rate, and stick in this note. Reliability==good.
Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project
robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services
On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Robert Watson wrote:
>
> Recently ran into the following circumstance on a server with about a 15
> day uptime (and hence about a 15-day old version of -STABLE):
>
> tcp4 0 33090 204.156.12.50.80 213.197.75.52.2378 FIN_WAIT_1
> tcp4 0 33304 204.156.12.50.80 198.54.202.4.24052 FIN_WAIT_1
> tcp4 0 32120 204.156.12.50.80 24.27.14.83.50129 FIN_WAIT_1
> tcp4 0 33089 204.156.12.50.80 213.197.75.52.2381 FIN_WAIT_1
> tcp4 0 33304 204.156.12.50.80 198.54.202.4.23509 FIN_WAIT_1
> tcp4 0 33304 204.156.12.50.80 212.182.63.102.28130 FIN_WAIT_1
> tcp4 0 33304 204.156.12.50.80 62.233.128.65.13712 FIN_WAIT_1
> tcp4 0 33580 204.156.12.50.80 212.182.13.23.3473 LAST_ACK
> tcp4 0 31856 204.156.12.50.80 198.54.202.4.20584 FIN_WAIT_1
> tcp4 0 31856 204.156.12.50.80 212.182.63.102.29962 LAST_ACK
> tcp4 0 33304 204.156.12.50.80 198.54.202.4.23960 FIN_WAIT_1
> tcp4 0 31482 204.156.12.50.80 213.197.75.52.2373 FIN_WAIT_1
> tcp4 0 32551 204.156.12.50.80 213.197.75.52.2374 FIN_WAIT_1
>
> (on the order of hundreds of these), resulting in mbufs getting exhausted.
> maxusers is set to 256, so nmbclusters is 4608, which was previously a
> reasonable default. Presumably the problem I'm experiencing is that dud
> connections have doubled in capacity due to a larger send queue size. I've
> temporarily dropped the send queue max until I can reboot the machine to
> increase nmbclusters, but this failure mode does seem unfortunate. It's
> also worth considering adding a release note entry indicating that while
> this can improve performance, it can also reduce scalability. I suppose
> this shouldn't have caught me by surprise, but it did, since that server
> had previously not had a problem... :-)
>
> I don't suppose the TCP spec allows us to drain send socket queues in
> FIN_WAIT_1 or LAST_ACK? :-) Any other bright suggestions on ways we can
> make this change "safer"?
>
> Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project
> robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services
>
>
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On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 07:33:25PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote:
> The temptation here is one of two things:
>
> (1) Back out the change increasing the send-q socket buffer size as a
> default, and restore tuning(7) to recommend increasing the value, or
>
> (2) To add the following text to the release notes:
>
> In 4.5-RELEASE, default socket buffer sizes are increased to
> maximize performance on high speed networks. However, under
> some circumstances, this can dramatically increase the memory
> requirements of the network system, requiring a manual
> bumping of the kernel NMBCLUSTERS setting. This can be
> set using kern.ipc.nmbclusters.
>
> My temptation is to bump back (1) a bit, possibly to bump up the keepalive
> rate, and stick in this note. Reliability==good.
I personally feel better about (2).. The buffer size increase really
does help with long-haul or high-latency connections. Normal users
would rarely run thousands of TCP connections; those that do would
either read the release notes, or be kindly pointed to those. People
who really do run thousands of TCP connections will hopefully read the
release notes and know what to do :)
As a side note, maybe this should be mentioned in the FAQ, too.
G'luck,
Peter
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If memory serves me right, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 07:33:25PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote:
> > The temptation here is one of two things:
> >
> > (1) Back out the change increasing the send-q socket buffer size as a
> > default, and restore tuning(7) to recommend increasing the value, or
> >
> > (2) To add the following text to the release notes:
> >
> > In 4.5-RELEASE, default socket buffer sizes are increased to
> > maximize performance on high speed networks. However, under
> > some circumstances, this can dramatically increase the memory
> > requirements of the network system, requiring a manual
> > bumping of the kernel NMBCLUSTERS setting. This can be
> > set using kern.ipc.nmbclusters.
Two changes I'd make: "default socket buffer sizes" should really be
"default TCP socket buffer sizes". Also, we should say that "some
circumstances" includes (as an example) the case of machines serving
many TCP connections.
> I personally feel better about (2).. The buffer size increase really
> does help with long-haul or high-latency connections. Normal users
> would rarely run thousands of TCP connections; those that do would
> either read the release notes, or be kindly pointed to those. People
> who really do run thousands of TCP connections will hopefully read the
> release notes and know what to do :)
Yes, we can put this in the release notes, and there's a good chance
people will read it, but we also need to document it somewhere less
transitory. A new user who starts using FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE can't be
expected to go back to 4.5-RELEASE's documentation to find this little
gem.
> As a side note, maybe this should be mentioned in the FAQ, too.
My first thought would have been tuning(7), as this question/problem
isn't frequently asked (yet). But I guess the FAQ would work too.
Bruce.
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FreeBSD 4.5-RC1 / i386 is now available :
ftp://releng4.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/
4.5-RC1.iso
The RC has been on ftp-master for several hours, so ftp.freebsd.org
and the other Tier 1 mirrors should pick up the bits soon. The build
for the Alpha platform will also be available shortly (within 12
hours).
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Please help test this release candidate on as many different
configurations as possible. Robert Watson posted a testing guide for
FreeBSD 4.5 to the -qa list, which is archived here :
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D35004+0+archive/2001/freebsd=
-qa/20011223.freebsd-qa
We're particularly interested in seeing the RC put into more
demanding environments than just a typical desktop install. A number
of significant changes have been made that should increase performance
over 4.4, and we'd like to test these new improvements as much as
possible.
RC1 x86 Errata :
The ISO image includes XFree86 and a full package set, so if you
think a package is missing that should be on the first CD of
4.5-RELEASE, please speak up now. Currently, we're planning to make
the following changes to the package set for RC2 :
1. Remove KDE dependency on teTeX, and move this large package to
another disc.
2. Use the extra space to add fvwm and GNOME + Sawfish. These
packages are needed by sysinstall but are not available on this
RC due to space limitations.
RC1 Alpha Errata :
- The release build was named "RC1" instead of "4.5-RC1", so the
sysinstall welcome menu may look a bit funny. This will be fixed
for RC2.
- XFree86 3.3.6 currently has build problems on the Alpha, so X is
not included on this first RC.
- The Alpha ports-cluster is not available to the ports team at the
moment, so this RC lacks packages.
And finally, our original release schedule proved too aggressive for
the holiday season. We've delayed the release until the 26th to give
our -stable users more time to test the recent changes.
Thanks!
- The FreeBSD 4.5 Release Engineering Team
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Hi,
My machine, a Duron 800 Sony VAIO laptop, paniced while running buildworld
under 4.5-PRERELEASE cvsupped 14:00 on 08/01/2002. I'm no kernel debugger
and freely admit i have no idea what to do, but hopefully the gdb output
below will help somebody. kernel core file can be uploaded somewhere if
specific people want to see it.
I was running buildworld, with /usr/src and /usr/obj on seperate
partitions, both with softupdates on. I have the problematic VIA
southbridge. I was building world, then suspended it (ctrl-z) before
suspending the laptop with 'apm -z'. Later, woke it up, and about 20
seconds later resumed the build. Two or three more files were compiled
before the kernel panic occured.
I've attached a dmesg and the gdb output, as well as the output from
'pciconf -r -b pci0:0:0 0x0 0xff', in case it is some problem with the via
chipset. The laptop has run stable except for this one panic and has
compiled world several times. the debug kernel and vmcore are available
for download if someone wants to look at them. Email me privately for the
url.
Thanks!
gavin
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On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:03:09PM +0000, Gavin Atkinson stood up and spoke:
>
> I was running buildworld, with /usr/src and /usr/obj on seperate
> partitions, both with softupdates on. I have the problematic VIA
> southbridge. I was building world, then suspended it (ctrl-z) before
> suspending the laptop with 'apm -z'. Later, woke it up, and about 20
> seconds later resumed the build. Two or three more files were compiled
> before the kernel panic occured.
Welcome to the club ;-)
Now, I'm no kernel expert either, but I wonder if you can reproduce your
problem. If it's similar to mine, you should be able exactly what you did
when the panic occured, and in about two out of three cases the problem
should be there again.
*Sigh*, Soren's fix has made my machine noticably more stable, what I
really appreciate! However, there seem to be some issues that have not yet
been sorted out, and the fact that these issues are there can only be
blamed to VIA and the motherboard manufacturers (BIOS programmers).
From what I can say, people who use their 686B machines for "normal"
desktop work will probably never face this problem, even without any
patching at all. On the other hand, people who are into (demanding)
networking, compiling or file-copying will almost surely face this problem
at some point in time, at least if their system is in the same state as
Gavin's and mine is.
If I had more money on my bank account right now, I'd probably simply
replace my mainboard with an unaffected one (either no VIA chipset or one
of the latest VIA things) and send my current one to Soren for further
investigation. I guess that if he'd see how strange it performs, he'd throw
it out of the window after a short period of time, and that's what I almost
did for about 20 times so far ;-)
Greetings
Nils
Greetings
Nils
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I did a fresh, Standard install of 4.5 RC1, selecting
kernel sources with X11. The basic install seemed fine.
But when I attempted
"Would you like to enable Linux binary compatibility?",
The GUI screen said
"Add of package linux_base-6.1 aborted, error 1 -
Please check the debug screen for more info."
and it said:
ldconfig: warning: /usr/local/lib: No such file or directory
ldconfig: /usr/local/lib/aout: No such file or directory
ldconfig: /usr/X11/lib/aout: No such file or directory
Linux mode is not enabled.
Loading linux kernel module now...
link_elf: symbol seminfo undefined
The linux kernel module could not be loaded.
Please enable linxu mode manually and retry.
-bob
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On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:15:25PM -0700, Robert Gray wrote:
> Linux mode is not enabled.
> Loading linux kernel module now...
> link_elf: symbol seminfo undefined
> The linux kernel module could not be loaded.
> Please enable linxu mode manually and retry.
Ok, I think we've resolved this. We recently removed support for
SYSV semaphores from the boot kernel. This exposed a bug in the Linux
module. The Linux module is supposed to depend (and hence
automatically load) the sysvsem module, but that doesn't work on
-STABLE for the x86. (It works in current and -STABLE for the Alpha).
We will make sure to fix this for RC2. Thanks for finding this
important bug!
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Nils Holland wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:03:09PM +0000, Gavin Atkinson stood up and spoke:
> >
> > I was running buildworld, with /usr/src and /usr/obj on seperate
> > partitions, both with softupdates on. I have the problematic VIA
> > southbridge. I was building world, then suspended it (ctrl-z) before
> > suspending the laptop with 'apm -z'. Later, woke it up, and about 20
> > seconds later resumed the build. Two or three more files were compiled
> > before the kernel panic occured.
>
> Welcome to the club ;-)
>
> Now, I'm no kernel expert either, but I wonder if you can reproduce your
> problem. If it's similar to mine, you should be able exactly what you did
> when the panic occured, and in about two out of three cases the problem
> should be there again.
No - I think that it's irregular. It's only happened twice, once while
running buildworld, and once whlie running grep on /usr/src/sys. I
certanly cannot make it panic on command.
> If I had more money on my bank account right now, I'd probably simply
> replace my mainboard with an unaffected one (either no VIA chipset or one
> of the latest VIA things) and send my current one to Soren for further
> investigation. I guess that if he'd see how strange it performs, he'd throw
> it out of the window after a short period of time, and that's what I almost
> did for about 20 times so far ;-)
heh. sadly this is a brand new laptop...
Thanks,
Gavin
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A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when booting.
The method we currently uses relies on the BIOS emulating a floppy drive from a
floppy image file on the CD. This limits the size of the kernel that we can
boot off of. The new CD bootstrap allows a full GENERIC kernel to be used when
booting off of a CD, allowing more drivers to work out of the box. However,
not all BIOS's that support the older method support this newer method of CD
booting.
The release engineering team would like feedback as to roughly how many
machines do not work with the new bootstrap utility as well as how many
machines do work. If most machines work with the new bootstrap, then we may
switch to using the new bootstrap on the release ISO images.
Note that this only affects booting directly from the CD. Booting from
floppies and then installing off of the CD will work the same with both images.
The cdboot image can be found at
ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.5-RC1-cdboot.iso
The MD5 checksum of the image is:
MD5 (4.5-RC1-cdboot.iso) = 294c50cdfe77f51b8224ae9679afeabf
This new bootstrap utility is used on Windows NT 4, Windows ME, and Windows
2000 CD's (and probably Windows XP CD's), so if your system has a
'Designed for' sticker featuring one of those operating systems, it will
probably work with cdboot.
Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa lists thanks.
RC1 x86 cdboot Errata :
1. The kernel configuration tool USERCONFIG does not currently work on the
cdboot ISO.
Thanks!
- The FreeBSD 4.5 Release Engineering Team
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Is this used by the make release scripts?
Lawrence Farr
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of John Baldwin
> Sent: 10 January 2002 10:00
> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG; qa@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: New cdboot ISO available
>
>
> A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable
> for the i386
> architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be
> used when booting.
> The method we currently uses relies on the BIOS emulating a
> floppy drive from a
> floppy image file on the CD. This limits the size of the
> kernel that we can
> boot off of. The new CD bootstrap allows a full GENERIC
> kernel to be used when
> booting off of a CD, allowing more drivers to work out of the
> box. However,
> not all BIOS's that support the older method support this
> newer method of CD
> booting.
>
> The release engineering team would like feedback as to
> roughly how many
> machines do not work with the new bootstrap utility as well
> as how many
> machines do work. If most machines work with the new
> bootstrap, then we may
> switch to using the new bootstrap on the release ISO images.
>
> Note that this only affects booting directly from the CD.
> Booting from
> floppies and then installing off of the CD will work the same
> with both images.
>
> The cdboot image can be found at
> ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES
/4.5-RC1-cdboot.iso
The MD5 checksum of the image is:
MD5 (4.5-RC1-cdboot.iso) = 294c50cdfe77f51b8224ae9679afeabf
This new bootstrap utility is used on Windows NT 4, Windows ME, and
Windows
2000 CD's (and probably Windows XP CD's), so if your system has a
'Designed for' sticker featuring one of those operating systems, it will
probably work with cdboot.
Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa lists
thanks.
RC1 x86 cdboot Errata :
1. The kernel configuration tool USERCONFIG does not currently work on
the
cdboot ISO.
Thanks!
- The FreeBSD 4.5 Release Engineering Team
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On 10-Jan-02 Lawrence Farr wrote:
> Is this used by the make release scripts?
>
> Lawrence Farr
> EPC Direct Limited
Err, it's not used by the make release scripts. The make release scripts
generate a disc1/ directory that we build the ISO's from. :) The only
difference between a cdboot ISO and a boot.flp ISO are the arguments you pass
to mkisofs for booting. For a boot.flp ISO like the default ISO, you use
"-b floppies/boot.flp". For cdboot, you use "-b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot".
--
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John Baldwin wrote:
>A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
>architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when booting.
>The method we currently uses relies on the BIOS emulating a floppy drive from a
>floppy image file on the CD. This limits the size of the kernel that we can
>boot off of. The new CD bootstrap allows a full GENERIC kernel to be used when
>booting off of a CD, allowing more drivers to work out of the box. However,
>not all BIOS's that support the older method support this newer method of CD
>booting.
>
>The release engineering team would like feedback as to roughly how many
>machines do not work with the new bootstrap utility as well as how many
>machines do work. If most machines work with the new bootstrap, then we may
>switch to using the new bootstrap on the release ISO images.
>
>Note that this only affects booting directly from the CD. Booting from
>floppies and then installing off of the CD will work the same with both images.
>
>The cdboot image can be found at
>ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.5-RC1-cdboot.iso
>
>The MD5 checksum of the image is:
>MD5 (4.5-RC1-cdboot.iso) = 294c50cdfe77f51b8224ae9679afeabf
>
>This new bootstrap utility is used on Windows NT 4, Windows ME, and Windows
>2000 CD's (and probably Windows XP CD's), so if your system has a
>'Designed for' sticker featuring one of those operating systems, it will
>probably work with cdboot.
>
>Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa lists thanks.
>
>RC1 x86 cdboot Errata :
>
> 1. The kernel configuration tool USERCONFIG does not currently work on the
> cdboot ISO.
>
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Hello,
I have tried to download this program 3 times and it will never finish
the download.
The first time I got 660171KB and it quit then I got 660170KB and it
quit. Just now I tried again and it got 660168KB and quit. Every time it
shows 99% complete.
I have checked the program against the checksum to make sure that it was
not finished and the download program was not just misreporting the size.
Is this a problem with my system or is there a problem with the file?
Thanks,
A.L.Grant
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:10:47PM -0600, AL Grant wrote:
> I have tried to download this program 3 times and it will never finish
> the download.
> The first time I got 660171KB and it quit then I got 660170KB and it
> quit. Just now I tried again and it got 660168KB and quit. Every time it
> shows 99% complete.
> I have checked the program against the checksum to make sure that it was
> not finished and the download program was not just misreporting the size.
> Is this a problem with my system or is there a problem with the file?
You didn't mention where you downloaded it from, but it sounds like you
was downloading from a mirror which still hadn't gotten the complete
file ...
/Jesper
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# John Baldwin (jhb@FreeBSD.ORG):
> Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa lists
> thanks.
I could successfully boot the image on a P133 and a Celeron 400.
I will do some installation testing on a Duron 800 system tomorrow at
work.
--Thomas
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If memory serves me right, Thomas Seck wrote:
> # John Baldwin (jhb@FreeBSD.ORG):
>
> > Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa lists
> > thanks.
>
> I could successfully boot the image on a P133 and a Celeron 400.
>
> I will do some installation testing on a Duron 800 system tomorrow at
> work.
Whether the image boots or not is less a function of what processor you
have in a machine and more a function of the motherboard and BIOS (maybe
disk controller?). For some well-known vendors, it's meaningful to say
what model a machine is. Still it's good to see you're having some
success...thanks for reporting it.
My own testing shows that I can boot the cdboot image on an IBM ThinkPad
T21 and a Sony Vaio PCG-Z505HS. I haven't tried it yet on my
workstation (Asus P2B motherboard with Adaptec 2940U2W) or my firewall
(Intel ZP motherboard with Adaptec 2940), because I can't down either
machine at the moment.
Bruce.
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 11:40:26PM +0100, Thomas Seck stood up and spoke:
> # John Baldwin (jhb@FreeBSD.ORG):
>
> > Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa lists
> > thanks.
>
> I could successfully boot the image on a P133 and a Celeron 400.
>
> I will do some installation testing on a Duron 800 system tomorrow at
> work.
Yes, cdboot seems to work fine, at least it succeeded on five out of five
machines here, all built between 1997 and 2001.
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Jesper Skriver wrote:
>On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:10:47PM -0600, AL Grant wrote:
>
>>I have tried to download this program 3 times and it will never finish
>>the download.
>>The first time I got 660171KB and it quit then I got 660170KB and it
>>quit. Just now I tried again and it got 660168KB and quit. Every time it
>>shows 99% complete.
>>I have checked the program against the checksum to make sure that it was
>>not finished and the download program was not just misreporting the size.
>>Is this a problem with my system or is there a problem with the file?
>>
>
>You didn't mention where you downloaded it from, but it sounds like you
>was downloading from a mirror which still hadn't gotten the complete
>file ...
>
>/Jesper
>
I am trying again direct from the link posted to the list.
AL
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>Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:59:47 -0800 (PST)
>From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>
>A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
>architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when booting.
>....
>The release engineering team would like feedback as to roughly how many
>machines do not work with the new bootstrap utility as well as how many
>machines do work. If most machines work with the new bootstrap, then we may
>switch to using the new bootstrap on the release ISO images.
>....
>Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa lists thanks.
I have tested it on 4 machines (so far); it worked on 3:
* IBM Intellistation (686810U) OK
* IBM ThinkPad (600E) OK
* IBM ThinkPad (770Z) OK
* NEC Versa (6030X) Failed
Messages from the failure:
CD Loader 1.01
Building the boot loader arguments
Read Error: 0x01
Could not find Primary Volume Descriptor
[Note that I had (successfully) upgraded the Versa to 4.5-RC1 with the
"normal" ISO image earlier in the day. And the machiine is likely old
and slow enough that it's of little interest.]
Cheers,
david
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 05:24:16PM -0600, AL Grant wrote:
> I am trying again direct from the link posted to the list.
How about when you try it like this?
fetch -a -R -r -w 75 -T 90 \
ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.5-RC1-cdboot.iso
OT: I made a small, dumb tcsh script for this sort of thing. You stick
URLs in $HOME/.leech.urls, make a directory (or symlink) called
$HOME/leeched , run the script, and forget about it. It records what
it's downloaded so far in $HOME/.leeched.urls. Just looking at it now,
I see a bunch of potential improvements, but hey, it works...
#!/bin/tcsh -f
foreach sucker ( `cat $HOME/.leech.urls` )
echo $$ > $HOME/leech.pid
set sucked = 0
while ($sucked != 1)
set sucked = 0
cd $HOME/leeched && fetch -a -R -r -w 75 -T 90 "$sucker" \
&& set sucked = 1 \
&& echo "$sucker leeched.">>$HOME/.leeched.urls
end
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On 10-Jan-02 David Wolfskill wrote:
>>Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:59:47 -0800 (PST)
>>From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.ORG>
>
>>A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
>>architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when booting.
>>....
>
>>The release engineering team would like feedback as to roughly how many
>>machines do not work with the new bootstrap utility as well as how many
>>machines do work. If most machines work with the new bootstrap, then we may
>>switch to using the new bootstrap on the release ISO images.
>
>>....
>
>>Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa lists thanks.
>
> I have tested it on 4 machines (so far); it worked on 3:
>
> * IBM Intellistation (686810U) OK
> * IBM ThinkPad (600E) OK
> * IBM ThinkPad (770Z) OK
> * NEC Versa (6030X) Failed
>
> Messages from the failure:
>
> CD Loader 1.01
>
> Building the boot loader arguments
> Read Error: 0x01
> Could not find Primary Volume Descriptor
>
>
> [Note that I had (successfully) upgraded the Versa to 4.5-RC1 with the
> "normal" ISO image earlier in the day. And the machiine is likely old
> and slow enough that it's of little interest.]
Hmm, that's weird. Can you see if the NEC Versa can boot a NT 4 or ME or 2000
CD? Also, how old is the BIOS on the Versa? (And is there a newer version you
can flash onto it?)
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On 10-Jan-2002 John Baldwin wrote:
> The cdboot image can be found at
> ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.5-RC1-cdboot.
> iso
>
> The MD5 checksum of the image is:
> MD5 (4.5-RC1-cdboot.iso) = 294c50cdfe77f51b8224ae9679afeabf
>
> This new bootstrap utility is used on Windows NT 4, Windows ME, and Windows
> 2000 CD's (and probably Windows XP CD's), so if your system has a
> 'Designed for' sticker featuring one of those operating systems, it will
> probably work with cdboot.
>
> Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa lists thanks.
Any chance of an ISO that is smaller, just for testing the CD boot thing?
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On 11-Jan-02 Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>
> On 10-Jan-2002 John Baldwin wrote:
>> The cdboot image can be found at
>> ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.5-RC1-cdboot
>> .
>> iso
>>
>> The MD5 checksum of the image is:
>> MD5 (4.5-RC1-cdboot.iso) = 294c50cdfe77f51b8224ae9679afeabf
>>
>> This new bootstrap utility is used on Windows NT 4, Windows ME, and Windows
>> 2000 CD's (and probably Windows XP CD's), so if your system has a
>> 'Designed for' sticker featuring one of those operating systems, it will
>> probably work with cdboot.
>>
>> Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa lists
>> thanks.
>
> Any chance of an ISO that is smaller, just for testing the CD boot thing?
Murray, would you mind a smaller image? Basically a miniinst.iso with no
packagse and no X perhaps?
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I got a download this morning from that same link....
At 05:24 PM 1.10.2002 -0600, AL Grant wrote:
>Jesper Skriver wrote:
>
>>On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:10:47PM -0600, AL Grant wrote:
>>
>>>I have tried to download this program 3 times and it will never finish
>>>the download.
>>>The first time I got 660171KB and it quit then I got 660170KB and it
>>>quit. Just now I tried again and it got 660168KB and quit. Every time it
>>>shows 99% complete.
>>>I have checked the program against the checksum to make sure that it was
>>>not finished and the download program was not just misreporting the size.
>>>Is this a problem with my system or is there a problem with the file?
>>>
>>
>>You didn't mention where you downloaded it from, but it sounds like you
>>was downloading from a mirror which still hadn't gotten the complete
>>file ...
>>
>>/Jesper
>>
>I am trying again direct from the link posted to the list.
>
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Just an FYI, but I have a couple of generic Athlon 1Ghz systems, and the cdboot
stuff works fine on both. I'll be checking my IBM T20 and an HP Kayak tomorrow.
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works on my box. i can boot and install from the iso cd. only error i got was
sawfish not found on INDEX.
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Two more datapoints: cdboot loaded successfully on my home workstation
(PII-400 on an Asus P2B motherboard + Adaptec 2940U2W) and my firewall
(P54C-100 on an Intel ZP motherboard + Adaptec 2940UW).
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So...while I was wandering around the 4.5-RC1 snapshot sysinstall, I
realized that apparently there is nowhere to read ERRATA.TXT. In my
world-view it should be in the Documentation menu.
It's not a big deal for RELEASEs, since typically the ERRATA.TXT doesn't
have anything in it (4.4-RELEASE was an exception). But a SNAPSHOT
might have some useful content in its ERRATA.TXT file. Should we fix
this?
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# Bruce A. Mah (bmah@FreeBSD.ORG):
> If memory serves me right, Thomas Seck wrote:
> > # John Baldwin (jhb@FreeBSD.ORG):
> >
> > > Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa lists
> > > thanks.
> >
> > I could successfully boot the image on a P133 and a Celeron 400.
> >
> > I will do some installation testing on a Duron 800 system tomorrow at
> > work.
>
> Whether the image boots or not is less a function of what processor you
> have in a machine and more a function of the motherboard and BIOS (maybe
> disk controller?). For some well-known vendors, it's meaningful to say
> what model a machine is. Still it's good to see you're having some
> success...thanks for reporting it.
Sorry, 't was too late that evening.
The P133 is a 430FX system with a Gigabyte GA586 Mainboard, the Celeron
sits on a Gigabyte BX2000 board. Both systems are IDE based, PIIX3 and
PIIX4 respectively.
dmesg are attached, for the curious.
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FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE #1: Fri Dec 28 19:15:47 CET 2001
tmseck@hardy.seck.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAUREL
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC" frequency 133637119 Hz
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Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping = 12
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rl0: <RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX> port 0x6100-0x61ff mem 0xe1004000-0xe10040ff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0
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oopppsss... forgot to mention something.... im using Epox MVP3C motherboard
with VIA MVP3 chipset...
On Friday 11 January 2002 00:25, Noel Balansag wrote:
> works on my box. i can boot and install from the iso cd. only error i got
> was sawfish not found on INDEX.
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On 10 Jan, John Baldwin wrote:
>
> The release engineering team would like feedback as to roughly how
> many machines do not work with the new bootstrap utility as well as
> how many machines do work. If most machines work with the new
> bootstrap, then we may switch to using the new bootstrap on the
> release ISO images.
>
Tested on an Intel SCB2 Mobo (Successor to STL2: Dual P3, Promise ATA,
HE serverworks Chipset, 82550 based fxp). No flaws to report.
Thanks for your work.
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As promised in <20020110224026.GA239@laurel.seck.home> to this list, I
did some installations today, using the RC1-cdboot image. I hope this
report is not to long and not "stating the obvious".
The system I used for testing is a Duron 800 with an Elitegroup K7VZA
mainboard, the IDE controller is the VIA 82C686 ATA100, having a Maxtor
4K040H2 disk (38 GB) attached. The video adaptor is a TNT2 Ultra based
el-cheapo card, network card is a 3com905C-TX.
The system was able to boot from the CD.
I then tried to perform a standard installation. I let fdisk assign the
whole disk to FreeBSD and labeled the disk according to the "auto"
values.
I could successfully install all distribution sets and the ports
collection. Linux binary compatibility could be installed and enabled
without errors too. Console, Mouse and time zone configuration were
successfull as well. The XFree 3.3.6 installation and configuration
succeeded. Installation of KDE and Gnome+Enlightenment were successful,
the installation of Gnome+Sawfish _failed_ because the sawfish package
"could not be found in the INDEX" (IIRC this has already been reported
and fixed).
Network configuration via DHCP worked.
After the installation had finished the system booted flawlessly from
the harddisk. I finally did a `make buildworld' as a small "stress test"
which finished without errors.
(Minor) issues:
1) The system had 128 MB RAM. Is there a special reason why sysinstall
calculated a swap size of 242 MB instead of, say, 256 MB (kern.maxusers
had been set automatically to 123 on this machine)?
2) When configuring the console font, there is no information that
iso-8859-15 is needed to display the EURO-symbol - I think this will be
a potential FAQ. In my opinion it is useful to move this new entry from
its position near the end of the selection list closer to the entry for
Western Europe so a new user does not need to scroll the list to find
the entry for -15.
--Thomas
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[ On Thursday, January 10, John Baldwin wrote: ]
>
> A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
> architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when booting.
> The method we currently uses relies on the BIOS emulating a floppy drive from a
Here's some more test data John,
SUCCESS: Asus P2B-DS (onboard AIC 7890) with the latest 1012B BIOS. I believe
the scsi bios is v2.20, but I'd have to read the boot-up messages again to be
sure. Worked like a charm from both CD-* devices hanging off the scsi bus.
FAILURE: Dell Latitude CPx-J 650 laptop. The BIOS in this sucker I believe was
the latest and is "A14" (going from memory--I don't have it in front of me,
but I will double check and correct myself on the list if wrong). When I put
this CD in the tray (and made sure that it was in the boot sequence) the
laptop just "sat there" with a blank screen for approx 20 seconds, then
proceed to give me my normal FreeBSD boot0 F1/F2 prompt for booting off the
HDD. No error messages, no diagnostic messages, no nothing.
I will do further testing with this laptop tonight to make sure I can boot off
the 4.5-RC "regular" CD (to make sure my CD hasn't gone south).
UNTESTED: I have an Abit BP6 (with the latest BIOS) that I will also check at
lunch time.
Thanks!
-Jr
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On 11-Jan-02 John Reynolds~ wrote:
>
> [ On Thursday, January 10, John Baldwin wrote: ]
>>
>> A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
>> architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when
>> booting.
>> The method we currently uses relies on the BIOS emulating a floppy drive
>> from a
>
> Here's some more test data John,
>
> SUCCESS: Asus P2B-DS (onboard AIC 7890) with the latest 1012B BIOS. I believe
> the scsi bios is v2.20, but I'd have to read the boot-up messages again to be
> sure. Worked like a charm from both CD-* devices hanging off the scsi bus.
Thanks!
> FAILURE: Dell Latitude CPx-J 650 laptop. The BIOS in this sucker I believe
> was
> the latest and is "A14" (going from memory--I don't have it in front of me,
> but I will double check and correct myself on the list if wrong). When I put
> this CD in the tray (and made sure that it was in the boot sequence) the
> laptop just "sat there" with a blank screen for approx 20 seconds, then
> proceed to give me my normal FreeBSD boot0 F1/F2 prompt for booting off the
> HDD. No error messages, no diagnostic messages, no nothing.
Ok, do you have a Windows ME, NT 4, 2000, or XP CD? If so, can you test and
see if it will boot? I know that ME and NT4 are bootable at least, so if those
fail to boot it's likely your BIOS doesn't support this style of CD-booting.
Does the laptop havea Designed For Windows 2000 Professional or NT4 sticker
on it? If so and it doesn't boot that CD, then time to go beat up on Dell. :)
> I will do further testing with this laptop tonight to make sure I can boot
> off
> the 4.5-RC "regular" CD (to make sure my CD hasn't gone south).
Ok. Making sure you can mount the CD and read it would be good as well. :)
> UNTESTED: I have an Abit BP6 (with the latest BIOS) that I will also check at
> lunch time.
Ok, thanks!
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cdboot works on a T20 with a DVD drive, provided that it is on a CD-R media,
and not CD-RW. The drive doesn't seem to like to read 2x4x CDRW media.
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, John Baldwin wrote:
> A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
> architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when booting.
> boot off of. The new CD bootstrap allows a full GENERIC kernel to be used when
> booting off of a CD, allowing more drivers to work out of the box.
Is the Compaq 5is Raid on this new list of drivers included? (CISS driver
I think).
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If memory serves me right, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, John Baldwin wrote:
>
> > A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
> > architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when bootin
> g.
>
> > boot off of. The new CD bootstrap allows a full GENERIC kernel to be used
> when
> > booting off of a CD, allowing more drivers to work out of the box.
>
>
> Is the Compaq 5is Raid on this new list of drivers included? (CISS driver
> I think).
The ciss driver is supported but it's not a part of the GENERIC kernel.
With the old floppy emulation kernels, the kernel contains a subset of
the GENERIC devices. cdboot kernels contain a full GENERIC kernel.
Bruce.
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On 11-Jan-02 Francisco Reyes wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, John Baldwin wrote:
>
>> A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
>> architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when
>> booting.
>
>> boot off of. The new CD bootstrap allows a full GENERIC kernel to be used
>> when
>> booting off of a CD, allowing more drivers to work out of the box.
>
>
> Is the Compaq 5is Raid on this new list of drivers included? (CISS driver
> I think).
No, right now this list isn't but so big, but it will grow as more drivers are
added. To see the current list, look at /usr/src/release/scripts/dokern.sh at
the non-SMALL i386 floppy. That is a sed script that trims drivers and options
out of GENERIC to create the kernel on kern.flp and boot.flp.
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AL Grant <agrant@runbox.com> writes:
> The first time I got 660171KB and it quit then I got 660170KB and it
> quit. Just now I tried again and it got 660168KB and quit. Every time it
> shows 99% complete.
Though I can't say it would solve that problem, I recommend getting such
big files using a resumable FTPer like ncftp/ncftpget so you don't
have to restart from byte one after a download is interrupted.
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Hi
The FreeBSD 4.5-RC1 ISO booted fine on my system with the Soyo SY-5EH5
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cdboot worked fine booting from my SCSI Yamaha 8424S CDRW on my Intel
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Earlier today I reported that booting the new CD boot image on my Dell Latitude
CPx-J 650 laptop didn't work.
John B. asked me if it had a "made for Windows 2000/NT/ME" sticker on the
laptop. Indeed it does. And, indeed I do have a bootable copy of Windows 2000
to try. Indeed the bloody laptop doesn't even boot this disc! It goes straight
to the boot0 boot manager selection from the HDD. Something's definitely "up"
with my h/w ....
I've checked all the relevent BIOS settings and all seems to be in order. The
CD drive is the first thing that it's supposed to check for booting before the
HDD even but no dice. The strange thing is that when booting into FreeBSD or
Windows the CD-ROM seems just fine--I can read from it, mount /cdrom, etc. No
problem (can't say that rules out a h/w problem altogether but ...).
So, I'm afraid without further screwing around to figure out what demons have
possessed my laptop I can't make any conclusions on the CPx-J series. My best
guess is that it would definitely work because of the cute Windoze sticker
present.
Anybody else got a CPx-J from Dell and can boot off this new image (or off any
CD for that matter)? I'm using BIOS image A14 (and am checking for updates at
this moment).
-Jr
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:59:47 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
...
> The release engineering team would like feedback as to roughly how many
> machines do not work with the new bootstrap utility as well as how many
> machines do work. If most machines work with the new bootstrap, then we may
> switch to using the new bootstrap on the release ISO images.
Boots fine on my Soyo SY-5EHM with:
<VIA 82C598MVP (Apollo MVP3) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
and a CD-RW <LITE-ON LTR-12101B> at ata1-slave using PIO4
I did notice an unusual entry in dmesg:
config> intro
Invalid command or syntax. Type '?' for help
It didn't seem to have any adverse effects and went ahead with a successful
binary upgrade on a spare drive which had an existing 4.4 installation.
Randy
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:12:21PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote:
> > Any chance of an ISO that is smaller, just for testing the CD boot thin=
g?
>=20
> Murray, would you mind a smaller image? Basically a miniinst.iso with no
How is 5 megabytes for you? We really just need to test the cdboot
loader, so I think this will work fine :
releng4.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/
4.5-RC1-minicdboot.iso
If the kernel boots and makes it into sysinstall, then the new
cdloader works on your hardware. If you would like to do a full
installation (which we certainly encourage!) then please download one
of the 650MB ISOs.
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On 12-Jan-2002 Murray Stokely wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:12:21PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote:
> > > Any chance of an ISO that is smaller, just for testing the CD boot thing?
> >
> > Murray, would you mind a smaller image? Basically a miniinst.iso with no
>
> How is 5 megabytes for you? We really just need to test the cdboot
> loader, so I think this will work fine :
5 meg is great :)
(curse per byte charging)
> If the kernel boots and makes it into sysinstall, then the new
> cdloader works on your hardware. If you would like to do a full
> installation (which we certainly encourage!) then please download one
> of the 650MB ISOs.
Hehe.. I do source upgrades :)
I will try the ISO soon an report back..
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>
> How is 5 megabytes for you? We really just need to test the cdboot
> loader, so I think this will work fine :
>
> releng4.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/
> 4.5-RC1-minicdboot.iso
It works fine on:-
Dell Inspiron 8100, 3COM 10/100 PC Card 3CCFE574BT
Abit BE6-II, 3COM 10/100 3C905B-TX
Abit BP6, 3COM 10/100 3C905B-TX, RealTek 8029
The only problem is the dmesg output goes so far that I cannot double
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On Thursday 10 January 2002 04:59 am, John Baldwin wrote:
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> Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa
> lists thanks.
Used mini-cd boot ISO (5MB).
Boots fine on:
Dell Latitude CPx 500 laptop with standard CD-ROM in drive bay
Homebrew with Asus CUSL2 MB and TDK 12x10x32 CD-RW
Had problems on a Dell Dimension XPS P-166 with no-name CD-ROM drive
and 64 MB RAM. I had originally burned the ISO onto a CD-RW blank,
then tried on a CD-R with same results:
CD Loader 1.01
Building the boot loader arguments
Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found
Relocating the loader and the BTX
Starting the BTX loader
BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01
int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00010202 eip=0000e369
eax=000000fa ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00094fa1
esi=00000000 edi=00000001 ebp=00093ff8 esp=00000000
cs=002b ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033
cs:eip=2e 31 2e 31 2e 31 2e 31-34 2e 31 20 32 30 30 31
ss:esp=4f c8 81 02 00 89 e0 05-a0 0f 00 00 a3 cc 81 02
and the system halted.
Derrick
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Hello, John Baldwin!
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 01:59:47AM -0800, you wrote:
> The release engineering team would like feedback as to roughly how many
> machines do not work with the new bootstrap utility as well as how many
> machines do work. If most machines work with the new bootstrap, then we may
> switch to using the new bootstrap on the release ISO images.
Works fine for Polaris iPB-A (intel 815EP chipset).
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Hello, Nevermind!
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 07:53:44PM +0200, you wrote:
> > The release engineering team would like feedback as to roughly how many
> > machines do not work with the new bootstrap utility as well as how many
> > machines do work. If most machines work with the new bootstrap, then we may
> > switch to using the new bootstrap on the release ISO images.
> Works fine for Polaris iPB-A (intel 815EP chipset).
Forgot to mention:
acd0: CDROM <CD-540E> at ata1-slave using PIO4
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John Baldwin wrote:
> A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
> architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when booting.
> The method we currently uses relies on the BIOS emulating a floppy drive from a
> floppy image file on the CD. This limits the size of the kernel that we can
> boot off of. The new CD bootstrap allows a full GENERIC kernel to be used when
> booting off of a CD, allowing more drivers to work out of the box. However,
> not all BIOS's that support the older method support this newer method of CD
> booting.
I have a ECS K7S5A that booted but sysinstall was completely hung. I
had to hit the reset button to reboot.
Kent
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 01:59:47AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote:
> A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
> architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when booting.
> The method we currently uses relies on the BIOS emulating a floppy drive from a
> floppy image file on the CD. This limits the size of the kernel that we can
> boot off of. The new CD bootstrap allows a full GENERIC kernel to be used when
> booting off of a CD, allowing more drivers to work out of the box. However,
> not all BIOS's that support the older method support this newer method of CD
> booting.
Worked fine booting from a no-name CDROM drive on my Soyo SY-7VCA
motherboard with PIII-866 CPU and 256 MBytes RAM.
Cool tool!
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>
>>The first time I got 660171KB and it quit then I got 660170KB and it
>>quit. Just now I tried again and it got 660168KB and quit. Every time it
>>shows 99% complete.
>>
>
>Though I can't say it would solve that problem, I recommend getting such
>big files using a resumable FTPer like ncftp/ncftpget so you don't
>have to restart from byte one after a download is interrupted.
>
>
>
I was finally able to complete the download. It seems the problem is in
the download
interface for Mozilla. Once I went to command line I had no trouble.
I have used this cdboot on a Biostar M7vkd with chipset VIA KT133A, & on
a K7VMA mobo with VIA VT8365/VT82C686B chipset. I have also installed
on my laptop a Toshiba 1555CDS all with no trouble.
Thanks to everyone for the earlier help.
ALG
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AL Grant wrote:
| I was finally able to complete the download. It seems the problem is in
| the download
| interface for Mozilla. Once I went to command line I had no trouble.
The mozilla download "capability" is a complete crock. The
other day I tried to download an 8 MB file and mozilla put 30 MB
of useless junk on my disk. I've had several cases of failures
with it where any other tool I've tried has done the job right.
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On 12-Jan-02 John Reynolds wrote:
> John B. asked me if it had a "made for Windows 2000/NT/ME" sticker on the
> laptop. Indeed it does. And, indeed I do have a bootable copy of Windows 2000
> to try. Indeed the bloody laptop doesn't even boot this disc! It goes
> straight
> to the boot0 boot manager selection from the HDD. Something's definitely "up"
> with my h/w ....
Doh. :) Thanks very much for checking.
> So, I'm afraid without further screwing around to figure out what demons have
> possessed my laptop I can't make any conclusions on the CPx-J series. My best
> guess is that it would definitely work because of the cute Windoze sticker
> present.
Someone reported success on either a 600 or 800 latitude I think.
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On 12-Jan-02 Kent Stewart wrote:
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>
> John Baldwin wrote:
>
>> A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
>> architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when
>> booting.
>> The method we currently uses relies on the BIOS emulating a floppy drive
>> from a
>> floppy image file on the CD. This limits the size of the kernel that we can
>> boot off of. The new CD bootstrap allows a full GENERIC kernel to be used
>> when
>> booting off of a CD, allowing more drivers to work out of the box. However,
>> not all BIOS's that support the older method support this newer method of CD
>> booting.
>
>
> I have a ECS K7S5A that booted but sysinstall was completely hung. I
> had to hit the reset button to reboot.
Hmmm, that is weird. I assume it doesn't hang with the normal ISO image?
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On 12-Jan-02 Derrick Norris wrote:
> On Thursday 10 January 2002 04:59 am, John Baldwin wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa
>> lists thanks.
>
> Used mini-cd boot ISO (5MB).
>
> Boots fine on:
> Dell Latitude CPx 500 laptop with standard CD-ROM in drive bay
> Homebrew with Asus CUSL2 MB and TDK 12x10x32 CD-RW
>
> Had problems on a Dell Dimension XPS P-166 with no-name CD-ROM drive
> and 64 MB RAM. I had originally burned the ISO onto a CD-RW blank,
> then tried on a CD-R with same results:
>
> CD Loader 1.01
>
> Building the boot loader arguments
> Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found
> Relocating the loader and the BTX
> Starting the BTX loader
>
> BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01
>
> int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00010202 eip=0000e369
> eax=000000fa ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00094fa1
> esi=00000000 edi=00000001 ebp=00093ff8 esp=00000000
>
> cs=002b ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033
>
> cs:eip=2e 31 2e 31 2e 31 2e 31-34 2e 31 20 32 30 30 31
> ss:esp=4f c8 81 02 00 89 e0 05-a0 0f 00 00 a3 cc 81 02
>
> and the system halted.
Oeer. Hmm, cs:eip is pointing at text ".1.1.1.14.1 2001" and blowing
up trying to execute that. Hmm, eip is in a rather weird address.
Oh, %esp is hosed somehow, the stack pointer shouldn't be zero. :)
So somehow the stack pointer got messed up and it started executing
garbage before blowing up. Can you read the CD contents find on this
machine? What year is the BIOS onthe Dimension XPS and can it boot a
Windows 2000, NT 4, or Me CD-ROM ok? Thanks!
> Derrick
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>
>
>Please test this ISO and provide feedback to the -stable or -qa
>lists thanks.
>
I used the mini-cd boot ISO.
It worked fine on an:
Intel 440 BX chipset + 400MHz Celeron.
It worked fine on an:
ALiM1647 + ALiM1535D chipset + 1200 MHz AMD Thunderbird,
on an Iwill motherboard.
It booted OK on a Sony VAIO superslim Z505HS (500 MHz Celeron), using the external Sony CDROM, connected via Sony's PC-card interface. However, once the kernel finished booting, it went through 3 or 4 steps:
Use PC-card device as installation media?
Select an I/O address area
Select an available IRQ
Since it booted off of the CDROM, it seems like it ought to be able to offer the option of "get the distribution off of the boot media". (Of course, I can imagine several different reasons why this wouldn't work.)
Other than that, the VAIO boot went fine, and I got to the sysinstall screen.
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On Saturday 12 January 2002 06:44 pm, John Baldwin wrote:
> On 12-Jan-02 Derrick Norris wrote:
<snip>
> > Had problems on a Dell Dimension XPS P-166 with no-name CD-ROM
> > drive and 64 MB RAM. I had originally burned the ISO onto a
> > CD-RW blank, then tried on a CD-R with same results:
> >
> > CD Loader 1.01
> >
> > Building the boot loader arguments
> > Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found
> > Relocating the loader and the BTX
> > Starting the BTX loader
> >
> > BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01
> >
> > int=0000000d err=00000000 efl=00010202 eip=0000e369
> > eax=000000fa ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00094fa1
> > esi=00000000 edi=00000001 ebp=00093ff8 esp=00000000
> >
> > cs=002b ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033
> >
> > cs:eip=2e 31 2e 31 2e 31 2e 31-34 2e 31 20 32 30 30 31
> > ss:esp=4f c8 81 02 00 89 e0 05-a0 0f 00 00 a3 cc 81 02
> >
> > and the system halted.
>
> Oeer. Hmm, cs:eip is pointing at text ".1.1.1.14.1 2001" and
> blowing up trying to execute that. Hmm, eip is in a rather weird
> address. Oh, %esp is hosed somehow, the stack pointer shouldn't be
> zero. :) So somehow the stack pointer got messed up and it started
> executing garbage before blowing up. Can you read the CD contents
> find on this machine? What year is the BIOS onthe Dimension XPS
> and can it boot a Windows 2000, NT 4, or Me CD-ROM ok? Thanks!
Yes, I thought it looked strange as well that the eip was pointing at
what looked like text. I reverified all the numbers just now by
trying the boot again, just to make sure I didn't make a mistake
transcribing them.
I can read the contents of the CD fine on the troubled box (after
booting into Windows which is what this box normally runs). The BIOS
is version A10; date of flash file on Dell's web site is 10/27/1998
and it is the latest BIOS available for this machine. I just tried
and it boots a Windows 2000 install CD with no problems.
This probably won't help much, but booting from a 4.3-RELEASE install
CD identifies the CD-ROM drive as:
CD-ROM Drive/F5A at ata1-master using PIO4
before entering sysinstall -- that's about as no-name as you can get
I suppose :).
Thanks,
Derrick
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John Baldwin wrote:
> On 12-Jan-02 Kent Stewart wrote:
>
>>
>>John Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>
>>>A new experimental CD bootstrap was recently added to -stable for the i386
>>>architecture that allows the full contents of the CD to be used when
>>>booting.
>>>The method we currently uses relies on the BIOS emulating a floppy drive
>>>from a
>>>floppy image file on the CD. This limits the size of the kernel that we can
>>>boot off of. The new CD bootstrap allows a full GENERIC kernel to be used
>>>when
>>>booting off of a CD, allowing more drivers to work out of the box. However,
>>>not all BIOS's that support the older method support this newer method of CD
>>>booting.
>>>
>>
>>I have a ECS K7S5A that booted but sysinstall was completely hung. I
>>had to hit the reset button to reboot.
>>
>
> Hmmm, that is weird. I assume it doesn't hang with the normal ISO image?
It boots the 4.4-release that was part of the 4-cd set just fine. This
K7S5a has a DVD player on it for the CDROM. I tried the 4.5-iso on one
of my other computers and it ran just fine. I have to go out but when
I get back I have two other SiS-735 based computers that are being
upgraded so they have W Paul's SiS-900 network update added. They all
have CDROM players on them. I will try them when I reboot after
installing the results of my latest cvsup.
Kent
>
>
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