From owner-freebsd-qa Sun Jan 27 12:27:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4046937B400; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from winston.freebsd.org (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0RKQad54952; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:26:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@winston.freebsd.org) To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org, re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Installation failure [finally] seen with 4.5-RC3 In-Reply-To: Message from Murray Stokely of "Sat, 26 Jan 2002 18:35:46 PST." <20020127023546.GA5153@freebsdmall.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:26:36 -0800 Message-ID: <54948.1012163196@winston.freebsd.org> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been trying to reproduce it and it's been failing to oblige by installing successfully over and over again - I say call it a Heisenbug and just move on. I've looked over the code and I honestly can't see any reason why it would die there or how the src distribution would be any different than the others. Sorry guys, I would have really liked to do more than spread needless Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt over this but I felt compelled to at least say something since I'd seen other people report it. On the plus side, I did spend some time trying lots of other things in the installer and it seems to work just great. All the packages I tried installed successfully, KDE2 comes up just fine as a desktop environment, and "Dangerously Dedicated" mode thankfully still works from its stealth mode in the partition editor because my test box also refuses to boot with any other partitioning policy. :-) - Jordan > Hey Jordan, > > Did you run some more installs on this piece of hardware? Without > a more concrete failure case I don't think that it makes sense to > delay the release. As it stands right now, we have very little to go > on, so it's not very likely that delaying the release would help to > track this down. > > - Murray > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:54:19PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > This particular machine is surrounded by Macs. I don't have anything to pl ug > > its serial port into. :-) > > > > - Jordan > > > > P.S. I suppose I could revive my Vaio. > > > > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > > Unfortunately, this one seems to be in the "heisenbug" category which > > > > is why I didn't flag it as a show-stopper when it started getting > > > <...> > > > > I also believe it's actually a kernel panic or hard hang vs sysinstall > > > > > > if it's a kernel panic, wouldnt you see some indication thereof on the > > > serial port? or is that sort of functionality not available in an install > > > kernel? > > > > > > just my us$ 0.02.... > > > > > > johnu > > > > > > > - Jordan > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > John L. Utz III > > > john@utzweb.net > > > > > > Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message