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Where will be on FTP FBSD 4.6?
Thx.
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คุณหรือคนที่คุณรักกำลังมองหาวิธีดูแลสุขภาพที่เป็นธรรมชาติอยู่ใช่ไหม?
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ฟังดูไม่น่าเชื่อแต่ก็ต้องเชื่อเพราะผ่าน อย.ทุกประเทศที่เข้าไปขายโดยเฉพาะประเทศไทยและอเมริกา ให้สารอาหารครบถ้วน ปรับสมดุลของร่างกายลดไขมันส่วนเกิน
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If memory serves me right, Liquid wrote:
> Where will be on FTP FBSD 4.6?
4.6 will be available on all the usual mirror sites:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html
Please watch the Web site or freebsd-announce@ for the actual release
announcement, when it happens.
Bruce.
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แนะนำโปรแกรมควบคุมน้ำหนัก เพิ่มน้ำหนัก รักษาสุขภาพ
คุณหรือคนที่คุณรักกำลังมองหาวิธีดูแลสุขภาพที่เป็นธรรมชาติอยู่ใช่ไหม?
หากคุณเบื่อหน่ายกับความพยายามที่ไม่ประสบความสำเร็จครั้งแล้วครั้งเล่า ในการดูแลสุขภาพเพื่อรูปร่างที่ดี เรามีโปรแกรมโภชนาการเพื่อสุขภาพ ที่ช่วยคุณได้
สำหรับผู้ที่มีปัญหา น้ำหนักเกินหรืออ้วน, ผอมเกินไป, มีปัญหาสุขภาพ (ผอมแห้งแรงน้อย, พุงห้อยอืดอาด, ขาดความมั่นใจ, โรคภัยถามหา,ใบหน้าเป็นสิว, ผิวพรรณเหี่ยวย่น,
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สนใจ ขอคำแนะนำเพิ่มเติมได้ที่ คุณสิริ 01-8901701พบคำตอบสุดท้ายของคุณได้ที่นี่ http://www.smartslender.com/foodforhealth
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I see a 4.6 mini ISO out there, which is basically 4.6 sans packages.
However, my first attempt to download, burn and install gave me a CD
that boot, but wouldn't install. I'm working on the second attempt now, and
have verified the MD5 checksums.
Ok... So the second attempt failed as well. I guess this is what I get for
not being as involved as I have been in other releases due to personal
issues :)
Looks like 4.6, as it sits, is broken. It should probably be removed from
the FTP sites. :)
> Hi,
>
> Maybe this is the first time I am actually waiting
> for a release(for the audio/vedio card on my new
> amd box), I find the releasing process of 4.6 is
> a great pain. Postponed from 6/1 to 6/8 to 6/10.
> Now it is 6/12. Still not yet completely out. After
> Jordan effect?
>
> Anyhow, I see 4.6 release on the main ftp site now
> but no iso images yet. And no XFree86 link. Anybody
> has idea of why, and naturally, when?
>
> A side question, snapshots used to be available ever
> so often but releng4 doesnt allow anonymous ftp any
> more. Are there still be any stable snapshots?
>
> It is a pain watching my new pc running 4.5 without
> X. I will put on 4.6-RC2 tonight if 4.6 is still a
> no go. :( Or maybe a source upgrade to 4.6.
>
> Great OS after all.
>
> Bo
>
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If memory serves me right, "Brian J. McGovern" wrote:
> I see a 4.6 mini ISO out there, which is basically 4.6 sans packages.
>
> However, my first attempt to download, burn and install gave me a CD
> that boot, but wouldn't install. I'm working on the second attempt now, and
> have verified the MD5 checksums.
>
> Ok... So the second attempt failed as well. I guess this is what I get for
> not being as involved as I have been in other releases due to personal
> issues :)
>
> Looks like 4.6, as it sits, is broken. It should probably be removed from
> the FTP sites. :)
(Even when I worked at Cisco, I never knew which of the internal mailing
lists could be posted to from outside, so Brian or Bo might need to
forward this. "Hi" to everyone who remembers me.)
I haven't grabbed the 4.6 mini-ISO yet, but I will soon. Four-fifths of
the release engineering team (murray, rwatson, jhb, bmah) was at the
FreeBSD Developer Summit at USENIX, which finished today.
I know that murray had (is having) some problems getting the ISO images
to ftp-master intact. The details make for a long, rambling saga that I
won't bore people with...they involve a lack of bandwidth and CDRs that
won't burn correctly. :-( I don't know if these problems could have
affected the mini-ISO...my impression was "not".
Bruce.
PS. What symptoms of failure did you see with the mini-ISO?
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> However, my first attempt to download, burn and install gave me a CD
> that boot, but wouldn't install. I'm working on the second attempt now, and
> have verified the MD5 checksums.
FWIW, I burnt this ISO last night and it installed problem-free on my Sony
Vaio PCG-C1F.
It did give an error that "the packages collection is not available on the
distribution media you've chosen" [true of course], "most likely an FTP site
without the packages collection mirrored. Please verify that your media, or
your path to the media, is correct and try again." [not so helpful]. Hence
at the end it said the "installation completed with some errors". But it
boots and runs fine.
I then used /stand/sysinstall to install X from the FTP site, since
ports/i386/packages-4.6-release is available on there.
Regards,
Brian.
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> forward this. "Hi" to everyone who remembers me.)
Depends on the configuration in the mailer ;)
> I haven't grabbed the 4.6 mini-ISO yet, but I will soon. Four-fifths of
> the release engineering team (murray, rwatson, jhb, bmah) was at the
> FreeBSD Developer Summit at USENIX, which finished today.
Yeah, I'm bummed I missed out, but with "Cisco Frugality", I'm only making the
ones in Boston these days, as I can drive from work daily.
> I know that murray had (is having) some problems getting the ISO images
> to ftp-master intact. The details make for a long, rambling saga that I
> won't bore people with...they involve a lack of bandwidth and CDRs that
> won't burn correctly. :-( I don't know if these problems could have
> affected the mini-ISO...my impression was "not".
Well, I'll be happy to open my resources up to Murray if I have anything that
can help him out.
> Bruce.
>
> PS. What symptoms of failure did you see with the mini-ISO?
>
The individual file kits tend to fail on what appears to be the second in the
series, so bin.aa, for instance, seems to extract, but it fails with an error
when trying to read in bin.ab. I don't remember the exact message, but its
something like "Only able to read -1 bytes". If I get a chance today, I'll
recreate it, and post the real error message.
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If memory serves me right, "Brian J. McGovern" wrote:
> > (Even when I worked at Cisco, I never knew which of the internal mailing
> > lists could be posted to from outside, so Brian or Bo might need to
> > forward this. "Hi" to everyone who remembers me.)
>
> Depends on the configuration in the mailer ;)
Oh. :-)
> > I know that murray had (is having) some problems getting the ISO images
> > to ftp-master intact. The details make for a long, rambling saga that I
> > won't bore people with...they involve a lack of bandwidth and CDRs that
> > won't burn correctly. :-( I don't know if these problems could have
> > affected the mini-ISO...my impression was "not".
>
> Well, I'll be happy to open my resources up to Murray if I have anything that
> can help him out.
Thanks. In this case, the problem is being able to get lots of bits
(the ISO images) from murray's workstation at home onto ftp-master.
He's kind of bandwidth-challenged, so the plan was to burn the data to
CDR for someone else to physically take to the co-lo facility where the
FreeBSD cluster sits, to upload there, while murray went down to USENIX.
Unfortunately, Murphy was hard at work the past 48 hours, and most of
the MD5 checksums of the CDRs failed (despite having two copies of each
ISO image). I imagine that murray is going to try this again.
I'm told that the FTP install directory arrived intact, as well as all
the packages.
Brian already knows this, but for the benefit of others: A FreeBSD
release isn't official until a PGP-signed announcement from one of the
release engineers is posted to freebsd-announce@. It is theoretically
possible (although extremely unlikely) that we might wipe outf all
4.6-related files and start over. So...I don't encourage using the 4.6
bits for any use other than testing, until a release announcement goes
out.
> > Bruce.
> >
> > PS. What symptoms of failure did you see with the mini-ISO?
> >
>
> The individual file kits tend to fail on what appears to be the second in the
> series, so bin.aa, for instance, seems to extract, but it fails with an error
> when trying to read in bin.ab. I don't remember the exact message, but its
> something like "Only able to read -1 bytes". If I get a chance today, I'll
> recreate it, and post the real error message.
Thanks, that'd be helpful. I just did an install to my scratch box
from the miniinst ISO. Nothing out of the ordinary (except there was
no INDEX file for packages, obviously).
Could you also give some info on the disk and CDROM configuration (e.g.
SCSI vs. ATA)? Just wondering if this might have something to do with
the ata(4) problems that some people have reported.
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> If memory serves me right, "Brian J. McGovern" wrote:
> > > (Even when I worked at Cisco, I never knew which of the internal mailin
g
> > > lists could be posted to from outside, so Brian or Bo might need to
> > > forward this. "Hi" to everyone who remembers me.)
> >
> > Depends on the configuration in the mailer ;)
>
> Oh. :-)
>
> > > I know that murray had (is having) some problems getting the ISO images
> > > to ftp-master intact. The details make for a long, rambling saga that I
> > > won't bore people with...they involve a lack of bandwidth and CDRs that
> > > won't burn correctly. :-( I don't know if these problems could have
> > > affected the mini-ISO...my impression was "not".
> >
> > Well, I'll be happy to open my resources up to Murray if I have anything that
> > can help him out.
>
> Thanks. In this case, the problem is being able to get lots of bits
> (the ISO images) from murray's workstation at home onto ftp-master.
> He's kind of bandwidth-challenged, so the plan was to burn the data to
> CDR for someone else to physically take to the co-lo facility where the
> FreeBSD cluster sits, to upload there, while murray went down to USENIX.
> Unfortunately, Murphy was hard at work the past 48 hours, and most of
> the MD5 checksums of the CDRs failed (despite having two copies of each
> ISO image). I imagine that murray is going to try this again.
>
> I'm told that the FTP install directory arrived intact, as well as all
> the packages.
>
> Brian already knows this, but for the benefit of others: A FreeBSD
> release isn't official until a PGP-signed announcement from one of the
> release engineers is posted to freebsd-announce@. It is theoretically
> possible (although extremely unlikely) that we might wipe outf all
> 4.6-related files and start over. So...I don't encourage using the 4.6
> bits for any use other than testing, until a release announcement goes
> out.
>
> > > Bruce.
> > >
> > > PS. What symptoms of failure did you see with the mini-ISO?
> > >
> >
> > The individual file kits tend to fail on what appears to be the second in
the
> > series, so bin.aa, for instance, seems to extract, but it fails with an er
ror
> > when trying to read in bin.ab. I don't remember the exact message, but its
> > something like "Only able to read -1 bytes". If I get a chance today, I'll
> > recreate it, and post the real error message.
>
> Thanks, that'd be helpful. I just did an install to my scratch box
> from the miniinst ISO. Nothing out of the ordinary (except there was
> no INDEX file for packages, obviously).
>
> Could you also give some info on the disk and CDROM configuration (e.g.
> SCSI vs. ATA)? Just wondering if this might have something to do with
> the ata(4) problems that some people have reported.
Ok. The exact error information, which is reproducible is:
1.) On the "main" install screen, one sees:
"Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 240640 bytes)"
2.) On the console screen, one sees:
"
[all the info on boot, newfs'ing, etc trimmed]
/bin/cp
/stand/gzip: <fd:0>: invalid stored block lengths
bin/date
/stand/cpio: invalid header: checksum error
/stand/cpio: premature end of file
"
I was able to change the BIOS setting to boot/use the slave DVD burner (slave
on secondary controller) to boot/install, rather than the normal CD player
(master on secondary controller). Working with 5.0-DP1 and 4.5 works fine
with the normal CD drive (master secondary controller), so I'm 95% certain its
not the drive itself. However, I'll play with it some more to see.
For extra drive info, the boot/FreeBSD Drive is an IDE as master on the
primary controller. There is also a CD-RW and hard disk on an Adaptec 7892,
but neither are used during the install.
-Brian
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If memory serves me right, "Brian J. McGovern" wrote:
> Ok. The exact error information, which is reproducible is:
>
> 1.) On the "main" install screen, one sees:
>
> "Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 240640 bytes)"
>
> 2.) On the console screen, one sees:
>
> "
> [all the info on boot, newfs'ing, etc trimmed]
>
> /bin/cp
> /stand/gzip: <fd:0>: invalid stored block lengths
> bin/date
> /stand/cpio: invalid header: checksum error
> /stand/cpio: premature end of file
>
> "
Hmmm. Definitely not what I saw. Based on a real quick read of
sysinstall (which, by the way, is not conducive to sanity), it looks
like gzip is blowing up on the compressed stream coming from the CDROM
(the stream being a compressed distribution). -1 is the return value
from a write(2) call. This sounds like the data being read from the
CDROM is being corrupted somehow.
> I was able to change the BIOS setting to boot/use the slave DVD burner (slave
> on secondary controller) to boot/install, rather than the normal CD player
> (master on secondary controller).
What do your devices probe as? Just for the record, I have:
atapci0: <Intel ICH2 ATA100 controller> port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci
0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
[snip]
ad0: 39266MB <IC35L040AVER07-0> [79780/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
acd0: CD-RW <SONY CD-RW CRX175E> at ata1-master PIO4
Also, do you know what speed (e.g. 16X) are your CDROM and CDRW drives?
(I'm mostly a SCSI-type person, so I'm a little out of my area.)
> Working with 5.0-DP1 and 4.5 works fine
> with the normal CD drive (master secondary controller), so I'm 95% certain it
> s
> not the drive itself. However, I'll play with it some more to see.
I would tend to agree with you on this point. The good news is that
you're not alone...other people have seen problems using the ata(4)
driver from 4.6 to read CDs. The bad news is that sos hasn't seen any
problems of this sort and can't reproduce them. I think he's convinced
that all the problems people are seeing with the ata(4) driver in
4-STABLE either come from pilot error, bad hardware, or bad media.
> For extra drive info, the boot/FreeBSD Drive is an IDE as master on the
> primary controller. There is also a CD-RW and hard disk on an Adaptec 7892,
> but neither are used during the install.
OK, sounds good, thanks. I'm not sure what else to try at this point.
:-(
Bruce.
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Synopsis: /stand/sysinstall coredumps when trying to load package data.
Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-qa
Responsible-Changed-By: johan
Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Jun 15 15:50:19 PDT 2002
Responsible-Changed-Why:
Over to maintainer group.
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