From owner-freebsd-scsi Sun Sep 22 3:12:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061CB37B401 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 03:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4199343E6E for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 03:12:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64DE17D93; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:12:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bremen.shuttle.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with UUCP id g8MACOZu018241; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:12:24 +0200 Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8MACwOf001184; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:12:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.12.6/8.12.3/Submit) id g8MACwM0001183; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:12:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:12:58 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: Scott Long Cc: FreeBSD SCSI , peter@wemm.org Subject: Re: Wiring down devices does not work Message-ID: <20020922121258.A1014@schweikhardt.net> References: <20020921190710.A12733@schweikhardt.net> <20020921212720.GA92567@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020921212720.GA92567@hollin.btc.adaptec.com>; from scott_long@btc.adaptec.com on Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 03:27:20PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scott et al, # Yep, it looks like config(8) no longer accepts the syntax needed for # wiring. This might be related to the elimination of count devices by # Peter Wemm. In any case, can you try wiring by putting hints in # /boot/device.hints? Examples for this are in /sys/conf/NOTES. If this # too is broken, then we have a major regression to fix in 5.0. Wiring works with the hints in 5-current. Thanks for the, uh, hint. Next question: I'd like to temporarily disable da0, so that the kernel knows nothing about it. Is there any other way than physically removing it from the SCSI bus? I've tried hint.scbus.0.at="ahc0" hint.da.0.at="scbus0" hint.da.0.target="2" hint.da.0.disabled="1" # analog to isa cards but da0 is still there. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 13:24:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A3637B401; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A764843E42; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:24:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8NKOFj1011937; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:24:15 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g8NKOFr2011936; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:24:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:24:15 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Matt Jacob Cc: scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c Message-ID: <20020923132415.A24262@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <200209230456.g8N4uZSW013370@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200209230456.g8N4uZSW013370@freefall.freebsd.org>; from mjacob@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 09:56:35PM -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 09:56:35PM -0700, Matt Jacob wrote: > mjacob 2002/09/22 21:56:35 PDT >=20 > Modified files: > sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c=20 > Log: > A SCSI_DELAY of zero is a legitimate value to have. > The notion that you must "always" have a delay is at best misinformed. This change only half fixed the check since there a boot/runtime check at the bottom of the file in sec_scsi_delay. If we're going to allow 0 we should probably also allow values between 0 and 100 as well and just toss the checks. I don't really object to letting the user take aim at their foot if that's what they want to do. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9j3huXY6L6fI4GtQRAo2JAKDJhJYzagi5j3j7abNxOavjKVWSGgCeITq/ cxBMc8NC4JNmtSo2BQdbW/c= =0dPH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 13:37:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F359637B401; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A7443E75; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:37:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g8NKbd101113; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:37:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Brooks Davis Cc: Matt Jacob , scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c In-Reply-To: <20020923132415.A24262@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 09:56:35PM -0700, Matt Jacob wrote: > > mjacob 2002/09/22 21:56:35 PDT > > > > Modified files: > > sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c > > Log: > > A SCSI_DELAY of zero is a legitimate value to have. > > The notion that you must "always" have a delay is at best misinformed. > > This change only half fixed the check since there a boot/runtime check > at the bottom of the file in sec_scsi_delay. Oh, well, yes, I didn't catch/change this. I don't really care about what the sysctl does/claims to do- it's not really pertinent for what I was trying to get to. I just wanted to fix the compile time wrong. > > If we're going to allow 0 we should probably also allow values between > 0 and 100 as well and just toss the checks. I don't really object to > letting the user take aim at their foot if that's what they want to do. You don't understand the real issue, which is that delaying after a bus reset is an SPI-only issue, and one that is not encapsulated in any spec in any hard and fast way- so don't talk bout 'aiming at foot' unless it the thing you're aiming happens to be your nourishment mandibiles. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 13:44: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AB637B401; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4453943E6A; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:44:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: from panzer.kdm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panzer.kdm.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8NKi1KD038364; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:44:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8NKi1Tw038363; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:44:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:44:01 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Brooks Davis Cc: Matt Jacob , scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c Message-ID: <20020923144400.A38337@panzer.kdm.org> References: <200209230456.g8N4uZSW013370@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020923132415.A24262@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020923132415.A24262@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:24:15PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 13:24:15 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 09:56:35PM -0700, Matt Jacob wrote: > > mjacob 2002/09/22 21:56:35 PDT > > > > Modified files: > > sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c > > Log: > > A SCSI_DELAY of zero is a legitimate value to have. > > The notion that you must "always" have a delay is at best misinformed. > > This change only half fixed the check since there a boot/runtime check > at the bottom of the file in sec_scsi_delay. > > If we're going to allow 0 we should probably also allow values between > 0 and 100 as well and just toss the checks. I don't really object to > letting the user take aim at their foot if that's what they want to do. A SCSI_DELAY setting of 0 was legal before your commit, it just meant "set this to the minimum value". So, this just ends up making the semantics the same as before. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 13:47:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D001837B401; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4431343E42; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:47:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8NKlVj1016615; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:47:31 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g8NKlV7F016614; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:47:31 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:47:31 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Brooks Davis , Matt Jacob , scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c Message-ID: <20020923134731.A14701@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20020923132415.A24262@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:37:39PM -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:37:39PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Brooks Davis wrote: >=20 > > If we're going to allow 0 we should probably also allow values between > > 0 and 100 as well and just toss the checks. I don't really object to > > letting the user take aim at their foot if that's what they want to do. >=20 > You don't understand the real issue, which is that delaying after a bus > reset is an SPI-only issue, and one that is not encapsulated in any spec > in any hard and fast way- so don't talk bout 'aiming at foot' unless it > the thing you're aiming happens to be your nourishment mandibiles. I don't think I ever claimed I did understand it. I addressed an existing annoyance without changing the default behavior one bit. If there's not reason for the lower bounds checks then let's get rid of them entierly. If there is a reason for them, then we can leave them in (after making them consistant again). It just seems really odd to me that we would allow values in the range of {0, 100-INTMAX}. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9j33iXY6L6fI4GtQRAuWCAJ45uZQzyHvniBZVW8my0BbDW22YiQCfR+qe N4Oy0SE2/3rtOWPwG7CBvp4= =fLSH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 13:51:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A7737B401; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5060543E3B; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:51:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8NKphj1017527; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:51:43 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g8NKph91017526; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:51:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:51:43 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Brooks Davis Cc: Matthew Jacob , Matt Jacob , scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c Message-ID: <20020923135143.B14701@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20020923132415.A24262@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20020923134731.A14701@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xXmbgvnjoT4axfJE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020923134731.A14701@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:47:31PM -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --xXmbgvnjoT4axfJE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:47:31PM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:37:39PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > >=20 > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Brooks Davis wrote: > >=20 > > > If we're going to allow 0 we should probably also allow values between > > > 0 and 100 as well and just toss the checks. I don't really object to > > > letting the user take aim at their foot if that's what they want to d= o. > >=20 > > You don't understand the real issue, which is that delaying after a bus > > reset is an SPI-only issue, and one that is not encapsulated in any spec > > in any hard and fast way- so don't talk bout 'aiming at foot' unless it > > the thing you're aiming happens to be your nourishment mandibiles. >=20 > I don't think I ever claimed I did understand it. I addressed an > existing annoyance without changing the default behavior one bit. If > there's not reason for the lower bounds checks then let's get rid of > them entierly. If there is a reason for them, then we can > leave them in (after making them consistant again). It just seems > really odd to me that we would allow values in the range of > {0, 100-INTMAX}. I just noticed my error after Ken pointed it out more clearly. Sorry for the trouble. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --xXmbgvnjoT4axfJE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9j37eXY6L6fI4GtQRAvxkAKDSiP2TnjAGQSmj70ldTXStMENtxQCeJKBf XkMbh9zgNunIIB4i4LYISXc= =Ac2M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xXmbgvnjoT4axfJE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 13:59:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D9937B401; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591A643E81; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:59:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g8NKxm101341; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:59:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:59:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Brooks Davis Cc: Matt Jacob , scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c In-Reply-To: <20020923134731.A14701@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:37:39PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > > > If we're going to allow 0 we should probably also allow values between > > > 0 and 100 as well and just toss the checks. I don't really object to > > > letting the user take aim at their foot if that's what they want to do. > > > > You don't understand the real issue, which is that delaying after a bus > > reset is an SPI-only issue, and one that is not encapsulated in any spec > > in any hard and fast way- so don't talk bout 'aiming at foot' unless it > > the thing you're aiming happens to be your nourishment mandibiles. > > I don't think I ever claimed I did understand it. I addressed an > existing annoyance without changing the default behavior one bit. If > there's not reason for the lower bounds checks then let's get rid of > them entierly. If there is a reason for them, then we can > leave them in (after making them consistant again). It just seems > really odd to me that we would allow values in the range of > {0, 100-INTMAX}. > I think it's swell we have a tunable- that makes it easy for people booting with devices which are tricky. Thanks for doing that. But you did, in fact, change the default behaviour in that SCSI_DELAY=0 had been an accepted config option before. I've restored the ability to do this. And I am in no way shooting myself in the foot- that claim on your part is unnecessary and misplaced. In a system with 144 PCI slots, e.g,, should we ever install FreeBSD on an alpha 8400 and fill it full of either Fibre Channel cards, or with SCSI cards that are connected to anything more modern than 1992 and more pricey than a UMASS device, I'd like to have it finish booting this year. I don't think it's particularly important to be able use the tunable to set back down to zero as long as those of us who need to make the behaviour more acceptable for high end system can do so. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 14:19:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC48737B401 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371F543E77 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (IDENT:brdavis@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8NLJWj1022953; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:19:32 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g8NLJVEb022951; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:19:31 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:19:31 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Brooks Davis , scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c Message-ID: <20020923141931.A20487@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20020923134731.A14701@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:59:48PM -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) on odin.ac.hmc.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:59:48PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: >=20 > But you did, in fact, change the default behaviour in that SCSI_DELAY=3D0 > had been an accepted config option before. I've restored the ability to > do this. And I am in no way shooting myself in the foot- that claim on > your part is unnecessary and misplaced. In a system with 144 PCI slots, > e.g,, should we ever install FreeBSD on an alpha 8400 and fill it full > of either Fibre Channel cards, or with SCSI cards that are connected to > anything more modern than 1992 and more pricey than a UMASS device, I'd > like to have it finish booting this year. >=20 > I don't think it's particularly important to be able use the tunable to > set back down to zero as long as those of us who need to make the > behaviour more acceptable for high end system can do so. When I looked at the code again, I realized there is one reason to want to be able to set it to zero which is that the check is now applied to boot time (in init_scsi_delay()) so is you set SCSI_DELAY=3D0 you get SCSI_DELAY=3DSCSI_MIN_DELAY even if if you compile it in. Given you example above, maybe we should just remove the checks entierly since in the current configuration you would have 14.4sec of delay (not hugh, but perhaps undesirably large). My comment about footshooting was refering to removing the attempt to keep people from trying to set the value in seconds, not that you were doing it to yourself. I'm fully aware you know more about scsi them I'm, ever likely to. :) -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9j4VjXY6L6fI4GtQRAj7lAJ9P1Wv3R/L8LpAp3NmEMMz8WtFKugCff6vr +umKdNhBq9GsbdekXUKFStM= =dEHs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 14:34:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B48437B401 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946D143E77 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:34:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: from panzer.kdm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panzer.kdm.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8NLY7KD038684; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:34:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8NLY7Kf038683; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:34:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:34:07 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Brooks Davis Cc: Matthew Jacob , scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c Message-ID: <20020923153407.A38651@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20020923134731.A14701@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20020923141931.A20487@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020923141931.A20487@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 02:19:31PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 14:19:31 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:59:48PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > But you did, in fact, change the default behaviour in that SCSI_DELAY=0 > > had been an accepted config option before. I've restored the ability to > > do this. And I am in no way shooting myself in the foot- that claim on > > your part is unnecessary and misplaced. In a system with 144 PCI slots, > > e.g,, should we ever install FreeBSD on an alpha 8400 and fill it full > > of either Fibre Channel cards, or with SCSI cards that are connected to > > anything more modern than 1992 and more pricey than a UMASS device, I'd > > like to have it finish booting this year. > > > > I don't think it's particularly important to be able use the tunable to > > set back down to zero as long as those of us who need to make the > > behaviour more acceptable for high end system can do so. > > When I looked at the code again, I realized there is one reason to want > to be able to set it to zero which is that the check is now applied to > boot time (in init_scsi_delay()) so is you set SCSI_DELAY=0 you get > SCSI_DELAY=SCSI_MIN_DELAY even if if you compile it in. Given you > example above, maybe we should just remove the checks entierly since in > the current configuration you would have 14.4sec of delay (not hugh, but > perhaps undesirably large). > > My comment about footshooting was refering to removing the attempt to > keep people from trying to set the value in seconds, not that you were > doing it to yourself. I'm fully aware you know more about scsi them > I'm, ever likely to. :) I think we should leave the restriction in place for now. It's far more likely that someone will think that SCSI_DELAY is set in seconds, and set it to something between 0 and 100, which can cause problems on parallel SCSI busses. Keep in mind that the delay is not serialized, it is applied to all busses in parallel. If you set SCSI_DELAY to 15000, you get 15 seconds of delay, no matter how many busses are in the system. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 14:39:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CF737B404 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B2143E7B for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g8NLdR101621; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:39:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:39:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Brooks Davis Cc: scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c In-Reply-To: <20020923141931.A20487@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > But you did, in fact, change the default behaviour in that SCSI_DELAY=0 > > had been an accepted config option before. I've restored the ability to > > do this. And I am in no way shooting myself in the foot- that claim on > > your part is unnecessary and misplaced. In a system with 144 PCI slots, > > e.g,, should we ever install FreeBSD on an alpha 8400 and fill it full > > of either Fibre Channel cards, or with SCSI cards that are connected to > > anything more modern than 1992 and more pricey than a UMASS device, I'd > > like to have it finish booting this year. > > > > I don't think it's particularly important to be able use the tunable to > > set back down to zero as long as those of us who need to make the > > behaviour more acceptable for high end system can do so. > > When I looked at the code again, I realized there is one reason to want > to be able to set it to zero which is that the check is now applied to > boot time (in init_scsi_delay()) so is you set SCSI_DELAY=0 you get > SCSI_DELAY=SCSI_MIN_DELAY even if if you compile it in. Given you > example above, maybe we should just remove the checks entierly since in > the current configuration you would have 14.4sec of delay (not hugh, but > perhaps undesirably large). When you're doing a lot of rebooting, yes. If you're interested in keeping people from mistaking the units they need to specify a timeout in, then the check you started with is probably fine *except* for the case of zero. If you really *are* wanting to have a Bus Reset delay, then for SPI it really ought to be at least 250ms, which is the 'recommended' selection timeout. Personally, I believe that 'no delay' and 'no bus reset' should be the default. This will cover nearly all reasonable existing cases fine (modulo fixing HBAs which should, on init state, remember to negotiate down to narrow/async unless they believe the BIOS has actually done the right thing). The benefit of this is faster booting and a clean multi-initiator environment for free. And this is just for SPI. Other transport mechanisms may want to impose different defaults. For example, USB/SCSI might always want a powerup delay. But this is all predicated on switching eveyrone over to the NEW TRANSPORT code. Lacking that, the check is probably not too unreasonable as long as zero escapes any timeout. > > My comment about footshooting was refering to removing the attempt to > keep people from trying to set the value in seconds, not that you were > doing it to yourself. I'm fully aware you know more about scsi them > I'm, ever likely to. :) Life is long. Hopefully somebody around here *will* know more than me and I can go off and work on other things. It's not all that hard. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 14:40:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6549237B404 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B920D43E3B for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:40:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g8NLe6101635; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: Brooks Davis , scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_all.c In-Reply-To: <20020923153407.A38651@panzer.kdm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 14:19:31 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:59:48PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > But you did, in fact, change the default behaviour in that SCSI_DELAY=0 > > > had been an accepted config option before. I've restored the ability to > > > do this. And I am in no way shooting myself in the foot- that claim on > > > your part is unnecessary and misplaced. In a system with 144 PCI slots, > > > e.g,, should we ever install FreeBSD on an alpha 8400 and fill it full > > > of either Fibre Channel cards, or with SCSI cards that are connected to > > > anything more modern than 1992 and more pricey than a UMASS device, I'd > > > like to have it finish booting this year. > > > > > > I don't think it's particularly important to be able use the tunable to > > > set back down to zero as long as those of us who need to make the > > > behaviour more acceptable for high end system can do so. > > > > When I looked at the code again, I realized there is one reason to want > > to be able to set it to zero which is that the check is now applied to > > boot time (in init_scsi_delay()) so is you set SCSI_DELAY=0 you get > > SCSI_DELAY=SCSI_MIN_DELAY even if if you compile it in. Given you > > example above, maybe we should just remove the checks entierly since in > > the current configuration you would have 14.4sec of delay (not hugh, but > > perhaps undesirably large). > > > > My comment about footshooting was refering to removing the attempt to > > keep people from trying to set the value in seconds, not that you were > > doing it to yourself. I'm fully aware you know more about scsi them > > I'm, ever likely to. :) > > I think we should leave the restriction in place for now. It's far more > likely that someone will think that SCSI_DELAY is set in seconds, and set > it to something between 0 and 100, which can cause problems on parallel > SCSI busses. > > Keep in mind that the delay is not serialized, it is applied to all busses > in parallel. If you set SCSI_DELAY to 15000, you get 15 seconds of delay, > no matter how many busses are in the system. Oh, yea, that's right. In any case, I totally disagree. Let us specify a 0 delay if we want to. Thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 15: 6:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7BB37B401 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B1343E75 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11] (may be forged)) by magic.adaptec.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g8NM6lN24662; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.0.52]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04684; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.100.253.70] (aslan [10.100.253.70]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17929; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:06:38 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:06:39 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Reply-To: "Justin T. Gibbs" To: Peter Wemm , Scott Long Cc: Jens Schweikhardt , FreeBSD SCSI Subject: Re: Wiring down devices does not work Message-ID: <2651970816.1032818799@aslan.btc.adaptec.com> In-Reply-To: <20020921220126.31A022A88D@canning.wemm.org> References: <20020921220126.31A022A88D@canning.wemm.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.0a4 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > However, cam_periph.c on -current has a bugfix that doesn't appear > to have been MFC'ed: I MFC'ed it about a month ago. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 15:37:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE1337B401 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA69143E75 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:37:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: from panzer.kdm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by panzer.kdm.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8NMb9KD039092; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:37:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8NMb2eM039085; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:37:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:37:02 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: Peter Wemm , Scott Long , Jens Schweikhardt , FreeBSD SCSI Subject: Re: Wiring down devices does not work Message-ID: <20020923163702.A39023@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20020921220126.31A022A88D@canning.wemm.org> <2651970816.1032818799@aslan.btc.adaptec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <2651970816.1032818799@aslan.btc.adaptec.com>; from gibbs@scsiguy.com on Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 04:06:39PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 16:06:39 -0600, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > However, cam_periph.c on -current has a bugfix that doesn't appear > > to have been MFC'ed: > > I MFC'ed it about a month ago. I think Peter MFCed it Saturday night. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Sep 23 15:41:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E63637B401 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1611843E42 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:41:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11] (may be forged)) by magic.adaptec.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g8NMf1N02286; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.0.52]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12380; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.100.253.70] (aslan [10.100.253.70]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18432; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:40:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:40:59 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Reply-To: "Justin T. Gibbs" To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: Peter Wemm , Scott Long , Jens Schweikhardt , FreeBSD SCSI Subject: Re: Wiring down devices does not work Message-ID: <2675200816.1032820859@aslan.btc.adaptec.com> In-Reply-To: <20020923163702.A39023@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20020921220126.31A022A88D@canning.wemm.org> <2651970816.1032818799@aslan.btc.adaptec.com> <20020923163702.A39023@panzer.kdm.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.0a4 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 16:06:39 -0600, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: >> > However, cam_periph.c on -current has a bugfix that doesn't appear >> > to have been MFC'ed: >> >> I MFC'ed it about a month ago. > > I think Peter MFCed it Saturday night. Hmm. I thought I MFC'ed it when I brought in the async notification changes. Oh well. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Sep 24 7:43:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B3037B404 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [217.156.25.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C743B43E4A for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ady@freebsd.ady.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11436; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:43:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@freebsd.ady.ro) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:43:36 +0300 (EEST) From: Adrian Penisoara X-Sender: ady@ady.warpnet.ro To: ipslinux@us.ibm.com Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: IBM ServeRAID controllers -- any chance for a FreeBSD driver ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Are there any chances for a driver for the IBM ServerRAID SCSI RAID controller found (at least) on the IBM PC 330 servers to hit the FreeBSD source tree anytime soon? We have such a server and would like to use this RAID controller for webserving under FreeBSD. I see that the Linux kernel has such a driver in 2.2.x, apparently developed by Keith Mitchell from IBM Corporation. Could it be released under a BSD style license and ported to FreeBSD ? Thank you very much, Adrian Penisoara Ady (@freebsd.ady.ro) ____________________________________________________________________ | An age is called Dark not because the light fails to shine, but | | because people refuse to see it. | | -- James Michener, "Space" | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Sep 25 4:14:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C6D37B401; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 04:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [217.156.25.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A32943E6A; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 04:14:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ady@freebsd.ady.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA98166; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:14:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@freebsd.ady.ro) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:14:08 +0300 (EEST) From: Adrian Penisoara X-Sender: ady@ady.warpnet.ro To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IBM ServeRAID controllers -- any chance for a FreeBSD driver ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, [ Replying to my own message with gathered infos ] I got a reply from Scott Long from (apparently) Adaptec: > > > The ServeRAID division is now owned by Adaptec. A FreeBSD driver does > > > exist, but there are certain legal issues that must be cleared before > > > it can be released. > > > > Thank you very much for your response! > > > > Can I get any further details on this ? Is there a scheduled date ? > > > > I would like to inform the people on the "freebsd-scsi" list about > > the above things -- can I forward your response ? > > It's already been discussed several times on the freebsd-scsi mailing > list. Unfortunately, there is no schedule for release. I'll bring > the issue up over here again. > > Scott > There is an open entry on the FreeBSD driver database webpage: http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=29 Also, it seems that Mike Smith sometimes mentioned that he might be willing to write such a driver. Mike, could you update us ? Thanks. Regards, Adrian Penisoara Ady (@freebsd.ady.ro) ____________________________________________________________________ | An age is called Dark not because the light fails to shine, but | | because people refuse to see it. | | -- James Michener, "Space" | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Sep 25 17: 5:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB5F37B401; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brain.stagecraft.cx (CPE-203-51-35-184.nsw.bigpond.net.au [203.51.35.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B537843E77; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:05:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carl@stagecraft.cx) Received: from brain.stagecraft.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brain.stagecraft.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8Q05oST092260; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:05:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@stagecraft.cx) Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by brain.stagecraft.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id g8Q05nSg092257; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:05:50 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: brain.stagecraft.cx: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:05:49 +1000 (EST) From: Carl Makin To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DVD Burning. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We have a Pioneer DVR-S201 DVD-R burner attached via scsi to a 4.6-STABLE box. It plays standard DVD's fine. I'm struggling to find burner software for it. Is there anything other than cdrecord-ProDVD? (It doesn't look like standard cdrecord will do it). Along that line, how is UDF support going? The web pages for current haven't been updated since April and the stable backport doesn't seem to have been touched since 4.4. Thanks, Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Sep 25 18: 1: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD93C37B401; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7163B43E42; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:00:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Scott_Long@adaptec.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11] (may be forged)) by magic.adaptec.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g8Q10iN25789; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.0.52]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18018; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com (btcexc01 [10.100.0.23]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19762; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 19:00:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 19:00:35 -0600 Message-ID: <2C7CBDC6EA58D6119E4A00065B3A24CB046574@btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com> From: "Long, Scott" To: "'Carl Makin'" , freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: RE: DVD Burning. Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 19:00:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hi, > We have a Pioneer DVR-S201 DVD-R burner attached via scsi to > a 4.6-STABLE > box. It plays standard DVD's fine. > > I'm struggling to find burner software for it. Is there > anything other > than cdrecord-ProDVD? (It doesn't look like standard cdrecord > will do it). I heard a rumor that the ATA driver was going to grow support for burning DVD media. Of course, that doesn't help things for SCSI =-). I believe that with DVD-R you can create an ISO image and do a progressive write of it onto the media, but I'm unclear on that. FreeBSD Systems and FreeBSD Mall have produced DVD media, so you might ask Mark Murray or Murray Stokley about that. > > Along that line, how is UDF support going? The web pages for current > haven't been updated since April and the stable backport > doesn't seem to > have been touched since 4.4. The UDF reader code was checked in back in late April. The backport to stable was never completed, but I or someone else can probably do that if motivated enough. Writing support has been stalled as I'm working on pushing RAIDframe out the door. I hope to get back to it in a month or two. Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Sep 25 22:27:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F8337B401; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 22:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-56339.0x50c6aa0a.abnxx2.customer.tele.dk [80.198.170.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E77343E42; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 22:27:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@spider.deepcore.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.12.5/8.12.6) id g8Q5RCWF028828; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:27:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soeren Schmidt Message-Id: <200209260527.g8Q5RCWF028828@spider.deepcore.dk> Subject: Re: DVD Burning. In-Reply-To: <2C7CBDC6EA58D6119E4A00065B3A24CB046574@btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com> To: "Long, Scott" Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 07:27:11 +0200 (CEST) Cc: "'Carl Makin'" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL98b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Long, Scott wrote: > > > > Hi, > > We have a Pioneer DVR-S201 DVD-R burner attached via scsi to > > a 4.6-STABLE > > box. It plays standard DVD's fine. > > > > I'm struggling to find burner software for it. Is there > > anything other > > than cdrecord-ProDVD? (It doesn't look like standard cdrecord > > will do it). > > I heard a rumor that the ATA driver was going to grow support for > burning DVD media. Of course, that doesn't help things for Its not a rumor, I've implemented support for DVD+RW in the ATA driver in early august, however I dont have access to DVD-R/RW hardware so I dot know if that works. > The UDF reader code was checked in back in late April. The backport > to stable was never completed, but I or someone else can probably > do that if motivated enough. Writing support has been stalled as > I'm working on pushing RAIDframe out the door. I hope to get back to > it in a month or two. UDF writing would be nice, I have patches for doing packet writing on CD-RW lying around already (hint hint) :) -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 5:47:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938A437B4E9; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 05:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MX2.estpak.ee (ld1.estpak.ee [194.126.101.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7295D43E77; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 05:47:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kalts@estpak.ee) Received: from tiiu.internal (adsl6395.estpak.ee [213.219.73.163]) by MX2.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE56B736AC; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:47:03 +0300 (EEST) Received: from tiiu.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiiu.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8QClowT002258; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:47:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from vallo@tiiu.internal) Received: (from vallo@localhost) by tiiu.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8QClmke002257; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:47:48 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:47:48 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: "Long, Scott" Cc: "'Carl Makin'" , freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DVD Burning. Message-ID: <20020926124748.GB2034@tiiu.internal> Reply-To: kalts@estpak.ee References: <2C7CBDC6EA58D6119E4A00065B3A24CB046574@btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2C7CBDC6EA58D6119E4A00065B3A24CB046574@btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i-ja.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 07:00:31PM -0600, "Long, Scott" wrote: > > Along that line, how is UDF support going? The web pages for current > > haven't been updated since April and the stable backport > > doesn't seem to > > have been touched since 4.4. > > The UDF reader code was checked in back in late April. The backport > to stable was never completed, but I or someone else can probably > do that if motivated enough. Writing support has been stalled as > I'm working on pushing RAIDframe out the door. I hope to get back to > it in a month or two. Scott, this is _very_ good news that the RAIDframe porting havn't abandoned. Don't want to make flamewar, but it seems to me that RAIDframe in NetBSD has been more succesfull project that Vinum. -- Vallo Kallaste kalts@estpak.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 10:47:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40C037B401 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (mail0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E7343E65 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:47:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdd@greatschools.net) Received: from cube (m198-158.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.198.158]) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g8QHlg276565; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:47:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdd@greatschools.net) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:47:41 -0700 (PDT) From: John David Duncan X-X-Sender: jdd@cube To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AIC-7902 (Utlra 320) In-Reply-To: <1501352704.1030783251@aslan.scsiguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, I installed 4.7-RC1 on my Ultra 320 box and it definitely has major scsi problems. Things seemed to go perfectly when I booted from the CD and installed the OS. But then when I rebooted from the hard disk and started building a kernel, it spit out a huge stream of console messages and ended up entirely disabled. I'll look into it some more and try to capture a problem report... - JD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 11: 8:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC0E37B401 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D264343E3B for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:08:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Scott_Long@adaptec.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11] (may be forged)) by magic.adaptec.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g8QI8MN03902; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.0.52]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29725; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com (btcexc01 [10.100.0.23]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29215; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:08:27 -0600 Message-ID: <2C7CBDC6EA58D6119E4A00065B3A24CB046577@btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com> From: "Long, Scott" To: "'John David Duncan'" , "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Adaptec AIC-7902 (Utlra 320) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:08:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hi there, > > I installed 4.7-RC1 on my Ultra 320 box and it definitely has > major scsi > problems. > > Things seemed to go perfectly when I booted from the CD and > installed the > OS. But then when I rebooted from the hard disk and started > building a > kernel, it spit out a huge stream of console messages and ended up > entirely disabled. I'll look into it some more and try to capture a > problem report... > > - JD Yes, please send us the *complete* console log from boot time to the point where it crashes. Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 12:14:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFF237B401; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.cigital.com (relay.cigital.com [64.80.176.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22FB43E42; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yanek@cigital.com) Received: by relay.cigital.com (Postfix, from userid 103) id 00FD1BADE; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:14:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange.cigital.com (exchange.cigital.com [10.1.20.3]) by relay.cigital.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE5BBADB; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchange.cigital.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:02:03 -0400 Message-ID: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE16@exchange.cigital.com> From: Yanek Korff To: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org'" Subject: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:01:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,AWL version=2.31 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Didn't get much response on -STABLE. Anyone on these lists work with this hardware? BTW, the BIOS doesn't allow for changing IRQs of any of this stuff... :( -----Original Message----- From: Yanek Korff [mailto:yanek@cigital.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 16:44 To: 'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org' Subject: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 I'm working on a system with an Intel motherboard (SE7500CW2SCSI) - the one that's being discussed in freebsd-smp right now due to SMP problems, panic on boot when SMP is enabled. That's somewhat beside the point for now... What I'd really like to do is get the integrated SCSI controller working with the sym drivers. LSI chipset listed as LSI Logic* 53C1000 on the Intel website. Here's a piece of the dmesg: sym0: <1010-66> port 0x7000-0x70ff mem 0xfc200000-0xfc201fff,0xfc202000-0xfc2023ff irq 11 at devic e 1.0 on pci3 sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, SE, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. CACHE TEST FAILED: script execution failed. start=7c99f4fc, pc=7c99f4fc, end=7c99f51c sym0: CACHE INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED. device_probe_and_attach: sym0 attach returned 6 There are two onboard NICs on this box and a graphics card using irq11. dmesg | grep "irq 11": sym0: <1010-66> port 0x7000-0x70ff mem 0xfc200000-0xfc201fff,0xfc202000-0xfc2023ff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci3 pci4: at 3.0 irq 11 fxp0: port 0x8400-0x843f mem 0xfc300000-0xfc31ffff,0xfc341000-0xfc341fff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci4 fxp1: port 0x8440-0x847f mem 0xfc320000-0xfc33ffff,0xfc342000-0xfc342fff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci4 pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2483) at 31.3 irq 11 Also the PCI NIC isn't showing up -at all- It's likely also trying to use irq11 (it's an XL -- ah... 3com905). Any idea what's going on here? Advice? Can I manually change the IRQs of any of this stuff to get things going? -Yanek. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 12:25: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F2F37B401 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977C143E42 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:24:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 12652 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 19:25:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Sep 2002 19:25:00 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8QJOvBv092582; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:24:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE16@exchange.cigital.com> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:24:59 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Yanek Korff Subject: RE: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 Cc: "freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org" Cc: "freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Sep-2002 Yanek Korff wrote: > Didn't get much response on -STABLE. Anyone on these lists work with this > hardware? BTW, the BIOS doesn't allow for changing IRQs of any of this > stuff... :( I don't think this is an IRQ problem but some other issue related to the sym(4) driver. > sym0: <1010-66> port 0x7000-0x70ff mem > 0xfc200000-0xfc201fff,0xfc202000-0xfc2023ff irq 11 at devic > e 1.0 on pci3 > sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, SE, parity checking > sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM > sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. > sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. > CACHE TEST FAILED: script execution failed. > start=7c99f4fc, pc=7c99f4fc, end=7c99f51c > sym0: CACHE INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED. > device_probe_and_attach: sym0 attach returned 6 > Also the PCI NIC isn't showing up -at all- It's likely also trying to use > irq11 (it's an XL -- ah... 3com905). You need to provide more info on this. What is the info from pciconf -l for this card? -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 12:30:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDD937B401; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adsl-63-198-35-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-63-198-35-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.35.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90BF43E3B; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:30:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by adsl-63-198-35-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8QJWA400486; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:32:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Message-ID: <3D9360BA.4EA4F02E@lbl.gov> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:32:10 -0700 From: "Jin Guojun [NCS]" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: zh, zh-CN, en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yanek Korff Cc: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 References: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE16@exchange.cigital.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is a driver (dev/sym) bug in probing phase. It cannot distinguish that 33MHz chip runs at 66 MHz bus clock or reverse. In fact, the driver does get some information: > sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. > CACHE TEST FAILED: script execution failed. > start=7c99f4fc, pc=7c99f4fc, end=7c99f51c > sym0: CACHE INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED. > device_probe_and_attach: sym0 attach returned 6 but it just does not know why. I believe that you put a 33 MHz SCSI adapter into a 64-bit/66MHz PCI slot. You can put it into a 32-bit PCI slot, or reduce the frequency to 33MHz on 64-bit PCI slot. Hopefully, this will solve your problem. -Jin Yanek Korff wrote: > > Didn't get much response on -STABLE. Anyone on these lists work with this > hardware? BTW, the BIOS doesn't allow for changing IRQs of any of this > stuff... :( > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yanek Korff [mailto:yanek@cigital.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 16:44 > To: 'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org' > Subject: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 > > I'm working on a system with an Intel motherboard (SE7500CW2SCSI) - the one > that's being discussed in freebsd-smp right now due to SMP problems, panic > on boot when SMP is enabled. That's somewhat beside the point for now... > > What I'd really like to do is get the integrated SCSI controller working > with the sym drivers. LSI chipset listed as LSI Logic* 53C1000 on the Intel > website. Here's a piece of the dmesg: > > sym0: <1010-66> port 0x7000-0x70ff mem > 0xfc200000-0xfc201fff,0xfc202000-0xfc2023ff irq 11 at devic > e 1.0 on pci3 > sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, SE, parity checking > sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM > sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. > sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. > CACHE TEST FAILED: script execution failed. > start=7c99f4fc, pc=7c99f4fc, end=7c99f51c > sym0: CACHE INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED. > device_probe_and_attach: sym0 attach returned 6 > > There are two onboard NICs on this box and a graphics card using irq11. > dmesg | grep "irq 11": > sym0: <1010-66> port 0x7000-0x70ff mem > 0xfc200000-0xfc201fff,0xfc202000-0xfc2023ff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci3 > pci4: at 3.0 irq 11 > fxp0: port 0x8400-0x843f mem > 0xfc300000-0xfc31ffff,0xfc341000-0xfc341fff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci4 > fxp1: port 0x8440-0x847f mem > 0xfc320000-0xfc33ffff,0xfc342000-0xfc342fff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci4 > pci0: (vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2483) at 31.3 irq 11 > > Also the PCI NIC isn't showing up -at all- It's likely also trying to use > irq11 (it's an XL -- ah... 3com905). > > Any idea what's going on here? Advice? Can I manually change the IRQs of > any of this stuff to get things going? > > -Yanek. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 12:34:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0DF37B401; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.cigital.com (relay.cigital.com [64.80.176.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F84443E75; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yanek@cigital.com) Received: by relay.cigital.com (Postfix, from userid 103) id CF1D8BAE1; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange.cigital.com (exchange.cigital.com [10.1.20.3]) by relay.cigital.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDD8BABC; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchange.cigital.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:21:54 -0400 Message-ID: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE17@exchange.cigital.com> From: Yanek Korff To: 'John Baldwin' Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:21:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,WEIRD_PORT,AWL version=2.31 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > You need to provide more info on this. What is the info from > pciconf -l for this card? none4@pci3:1:0: class=0x010000 card=0x78308086 chip=0x00211000 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)' device = 'LSI53C1000/1000R/1010R/1010-66 PCI to Ultra160 SCSI Controller' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI Thanks for the quick response, let me know if ther'e any other information I can provide. -Yanek. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 12:35:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C3A37B401; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.cigital.com (relay.cigital.com [64.80.176.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF7443E6A; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 12:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yanek@cigital.com) Received: by relay.cigital.com (Postfix, from userid 103) id 8C561BAE5; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange.cigital.com (exchange.cigital.com [10.1.20.3]) by relay.cigital.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CF6BAE2; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchange.cigital.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:23:14 -0400 Message-ID: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE18@exchange.cigital.com> From: Yanek Korff To: "'Jin Guojun [NCS]'" Cc: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:23:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,AWL version=2.31 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > but it just does not know why. > I believe that you put a 33 MHz SCSI adapter into a > 64-bit/66MHz PCI slot. You can put it into a 32-bit > PCI slot, or reduce the frequency to 33MHz on > 64-bit PCI slot. Alas, the SCSI chipset is integrated on the mobo. Mobo docs are here: http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SE7500CW2/index.htm -Yanek. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 13: 3:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD2D37B401 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail16.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FDA43E6A for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:03:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 10169 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 20:03:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail16.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Sep 2002 20:03:41 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8QK3cBv092678; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:03:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE17@exchange.cigital.com> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:03:40 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Yanek Korff Subject: RE: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Sep-2002 Yanek Korff wrote: >> You need to provide more info on this. What is the info from >> pciconf -l for this card? > > none4@pci3:1:0: class=0x010000 card=0x78308086 chip=0x00211000 rev=0x01 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)' > device = 'LSI53C1000/1000R/1010R/1010-66 PCI to Ultra160 SCSI > Controller' > class = mass storage > subclass = SCSI > > Thanks for the quick response, let me know if ther'e any other information I > can provide. My question was about the NIC, not the SCSI card. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 13:10:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D9837B401; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.cigital.com (relay.cigital.com [64.80.176.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512F243E42; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yanek@cigital.com) Received: by relay.cigital.com (Postfix, from userid 103) id D080FBABC; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange.cigital.com (exchange.cigital.com [10.1.20.3]) by relay.cigital.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39EACBA5E; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchange.cigital.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:58:09 -0400 Message-ID: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE19@exchange.cigital.com> From: Yanek Korff To: 'John Baldwin' Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: RE: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 15:58:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL version=2.31 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > My question was about the NIC, not the SCSI card. Sorry, my mistake. pciconf has absolutely nothing to say about this card. It's merely not detected. I will be taking another card (same model) in to the colo this evening & potentially also changing PCI slot. The SCSI is more pressing... -Yanek. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 13:22:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C574437B406 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail16.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF3E43EAC for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:22:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 22745 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 20:22:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail16.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Sep 2002 20:22:58 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8QKMpBv092727; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:22:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE19@exchange.cigital.com> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:22:53 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Yanek Korff Subject: RE: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Sep-2002 Yanek Korff wrote: >> My question was about the NIC, not the SCSI card. > > Sorry, my mistake. pciconf has absolutely nothing to say about this card. > It's merely not detected. I will be taking another card (same model) in to > the colo this evening & potentially also changing PCI slot. If the card is in a PCI slot then pciconf will say something unless there is a drastic hardware error. It would be a 'none' device though. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 13:23:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4323B37B401; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adsl-63-198-35-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-63-198-35-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.35.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F2343E42; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:23:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by adsl-63-198-35-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8QKPH400565; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Message-ID: <3D936D2D.C81D4ADA@lbl.gov> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:25:17 -0700 From: "Jin Guojun [NCS]" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: zh, zh-CN, en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yanek Korff Cc: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 References: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE18@exchange.cigital.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yanek Korff wrote: > > > but it just does not know why. > > I believe that you put a 33 MHz SCSI adapter into a > > 64-bit/66MHz PCI slot. You can put it into a 32-bit > > PCI slot, or reduce the frequency to 33MHz on > > 64-bit PCI slot. > Alas, the SCSI chipset is integrated on the mobo. Mobo docs are here: > http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SE7500CW2/index.htm > > -Yanek. As LSI web site says, all SCSI controller in 53c1000 family are 66 MHz 53c{1000/1000R/1010/1010R}. But many SCSI adapter makers, who use these chips, state that their SCSI card tested under 33MHz bus clock. LSI document says that 53c1000/1010 family has a 33/66MHz interface to work with both 33 and 66 MHz PCI slot, but I had a Tekram DC-390U3W, which uses 53c1010 chipset, works only at 33 MHz under FreeBSD. I am not sure who is wrong in these specifications. Maybe the BIOS can provide some useful information during the boot, such as, 53C1000-## during SCSI BIOS probe. The ## should be either 33 or 66. If the ## is 33, then you need a jumper on the motherboard to set 53c1000 to work at 33MHz? If it is 66, you need to ask the sym driver developer -- Gerard Roudier -- for help. -- ------------ Jin Guojun ----------- v --- j_guojun@lbl.gov --- Distributed Systems Department http://www.itg.lbl.gov/~jin M/S 50B-2239 Ph#:(510) 486-7531 Fax: 486-6363 Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, Berkeley, CA 94720 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 26 13:28:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D4D37B401; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.cigital.com (relay.cigital.com [64.80.176.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D16243E65; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yanek@cigital.com) Received: by relay.cigital.com (Postfix, from userid 103) id 27754BAC2; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:28:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange.cigital.com (exchange.cigital.com [10.1.20.3]) by relay.cigital.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32330BAC1; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchange.cigital.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:15:59 -0400 Message-ID: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE1A@exchange.cigital.com> From: Yanek Korff To: 'John Baldwin' Cc: "'freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:15:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,WEIRD_PORT,AWL version=2.31 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If the card is in a PCI slot then pciconf will say something unless > there is a drastic hardware error. It would be a 'none' > device though. Humph. I'll have to kick the machine around then. It's just -not detected- Will give more info after I go to the colo this eve... BTW, if you're curious, here are the none devices: none0@pci0:0:1: class=0xff0000 card=0x34198086 chip=0x25418086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'E7500 System Controller (MCH, Hub Interface A)' none1@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x34198086 chip=0x24838086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801CA/CAM (ICH3-S/ICH3-M) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus none2@pci1:28:0: class=0x080020 card=0x34198086 chip=0x14618086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82870P2 I/OxAPIC Interrupt Controller' class = base peripheral subclass = interrupt controller none3@pci1:30:0: class=0x080020 card=0x34198086 chip=0x14618086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82870P2 I/OxAPIC Interrupt Controller' class = base peripheral subclass = interrupt controller none4@pci3:1:0: class=0x010000 card=0x78308086 chip=0x00211000 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)' device = 'LSI53C1000/1000R/1010R/1010-66 PCI to Ultra160 SCSI Controller' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI none5@pci4:3:0: class=0x030000 card=0x34198086 chip=0x47521002 rev=0x27 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'ATI Technologies' device = 'Rage XL PCI' class = display subclass = VGA Thanks for the feedback so far. -Yanek. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Sep 27 6:35: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A9337B401; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.cigital.com (relay.cigital.com [64.80.176.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B13C43E7B; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yanek@cigital.com) Received: by relay.cigital.com (Postfix, from userid 103) id 5374EBAE8; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange.cigital.com (exchange.cigital.com [10.1.20.3]) by relay.cigital.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39305BAE7; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchange.cigital.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:22:20 -0400 Message-ID: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE1F@exchange.cigital.com> From: Yanek Korff To: "'jhb@FreeBSD.org'" , "'j_guojun@lbl.gov'" , "'groudier@free.fr'" Cc: "'FreeBSD-hardware@freebsd.org'" , "'FreeBSD-SCSI@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:22:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=DOUBLE_CAPSWORD,AWL version=2.31 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Some troubleshooting I did last night: 1) Removed the 3com NIC & booted SCSI card still fails cache test. Noted IRQ of SCSI had changed to 12. Noted when the system tried to boot, it failed with a kernel trap & rebooted and came up fine the 2nd time. (this happened more later) 2) Removed the SCSI card, but left the 3com NIC in. NIC still not detected. 3) Removed the PCI riser (64-bit, plugged into 64-bit PCI slot & drawing from adjacent slot too) in order to install 3com card into one of the 32 bit PCI slots (directly on the motherboard). This required removing the metal bracket from the NIC. The NIC was detected and successfully configured. Rationale: 3com card must be plugged into motherboard directly because the riser supports only 64-bit PCI cards? 4) Installed SCSI card into a Dell 2550 running FreeBSD4-STABLE. Same behavior as in colo hardware. I do not have access to another server with 64-bit PCI that is not running FreeBSD (at least, not one I can shut down at will); I cannot test the card against other OSes drivers. Either the SCSI card is BAD, or the FreeBSD drivers do not yet support this version of the card (64 bit vs 32 bit)? BTW, Jin/Gerard: BIOS says this card is 53C1000-66. -Yanek. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-scsi Sat Sep 28 17:13:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D14D37B404; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adsl-63-198-35-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-63-198-35-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.35.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2144143E6E; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:13:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Received: from lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by adsl-63-198-35-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8T0FHg00872; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j_guojun@lbl.gov) Message-ID: <3D964615.64DDF69E@lbl.gov> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:15:17 -0700 From: "Jin Guojun [NCS]" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: zh, zh-CN, en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yanek Korff Cc: "'jhb@FreeBSD.org'" , "'groudier@free.fr'" , "'FreeBSD-hardware@freebsd.org'" , "'FreeBSD-SCSI@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: SCSI controller & NIC problem - irq11 References: <51CC94132526754995E79DCF28C0C34D09BE1F@exchange.cigital.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yanek Korff wrote: > > Some troubleshooting I did last night: > > 1) Removed the 3com NIC & booted > SCSI card still fails cache test. > Noted IRQ of SCSI had changed to 12. > Noted when the system tried to boot, it failed with a kernel trap & rebooted > and > came up fine the 2nd time. (this happened more later) > > 2) Removed the SCSI card, but left the 3com NIC in. > NIC still not detected. I remembered that the SCSI card is on board. Do I missed something? > 3) Removed the PCI riser (64-bit, plugged into 64-bit PCI slot & drawing > from adjacent slot too) in order to install 3com card into one of the 32 bit > PCI slots (directly on the motherboard). This required removing the metal > bracket from the NIC. > The NIC was detected and successfully configured. > > Rationale: > 3com card must be plugged into motherboard directly because the riser > supports only 64-bit PCI cards? Some riser card can cause problem. But in this case, I think you may be confused 64-bit v.s. 66MHz. The 32-bit card may only work under 33MHz frequency. If your 64-bit PCI slot can detect your NIC PCI CLK, and set its CLK to 33 MHz, the NIC should work. I just tested a Intel 82559 NIC (32-bit/33MHz) on E7500 motherboard. When nothing plugged into the slot, BIOS says it operates at 66MHz. When Intel 82559 NIC plugged in, BIOS says it operated at 33MHz, and the NIC works OK. So, you should check the BIOS info during the boot time. 3COM card may work little different. > 4) Installed SCSI card into a Dell 2550 running FreeBSD4-STABLE. > Same behavior as in colo hardware. I do not have access to another server > with 64-bit PCI that is not running FreeBSD (at least, not one I can shut > down at will); I cannot test the card against other OSes drivers. > > Either the SCSI card is BAD, or the FreeBSD drivers do not yet support this > version of the card (64 bit vs 32 bit)? BTW, Jin/Gerard: BIOS says this > card is 53C1000-66. Since I do not have a 53c1000-66 card, I cannot verify what is wrong. Maybe Gerard have some idea. > -Yanek. -- ------------ Jin Guojun ----------- v --- j_guojun@lbl.gov --- Distributed Systems Department http://www.itg.lbl.gov/~jin M/S 50B-2239 Ph#:(510) 486-7531 Fax: 486-6363 Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, Berkeley, CA 94720 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message