From owner-freebsd-small Sun Feb 3 4:45:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ycn.com (mail.ycn.com [212.88.160.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB3237B402 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 04:45:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ws01 (212-88-187-192.ADSL.ycn.com [212.88.187.192]) by mail.ycn.com (8.11.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id g13CjxB05701 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 13:46:01 +0100 From: "Richard Kaestner" To: Subject: picoBSD: newbies question Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 13:57:52 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please don't beat for a novice' question ;=) As I understand from documentation, PicoBSD is - based on "a quite old version" of FreeBSD ... - has been merged to the "standard" FreeBSD sources and basically _is_ BSD - should run quite well on a 486/33Mhz, 16 - 32 MB (not regarding application specific issues) - "hard" real-time is not really a domain of *BSD - I shold be able to build an embedded system, using the source tree (after getting deeper into documentation ;=) ) - and finally, develop application on a FreeBSD system, create a package and install it togehter with picoBSD in an embedded system Could anyone please correct my above statements (which are actually questions!), and give me pointers to recommended readings (besides the files supplied in /usr/src/release/picobsd ) After working already for some time on industrial control systems, I would like to make life easier, using a prooven, stable kernel (which since late last year, I think to know, BSD is). Thanks for your help! -- ciao - Richard "you have moved your mouse, please reboot to make this change take effect" Richard Kästner Woerthgasse 17 2500 Baden mailto:richard.kaestner@ycn.com Austria To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Feb 4 0:37: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mta10.onebox.com (mta10.onebox.com [64.68.76.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7F837B41A for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from onebox.com ([10.1.111.11]) by mta10.onebox.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020204083700.YDVO27419.mta10.onebox.com@onebox.com> for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:37:00 -0800 Received: from [64.171.24.239] by onebox.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 00:37:00 -0800 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 00:37:00 -0800 Subject: Re: picoBSD: newbies question From: "gerry link" Cc: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20020204083700.YDVO27419.mta10.onebox.com@onebox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would have to agree, there are mighty slim pickings on the picobsd website itself. Have a certain DSS project I'd love to get running on a small pc-appliance, thought Pico would be perfect. I don't know, might be easy for someone used to *nix, maybe I'll just work at Free. Not sure, but is Pico even being really used/worked on any more? Most of the docs and stuff all date back to 1998 or so. Basic question I guess I have is, should I actually invest time into Pico, or simply go with Free/Open? cio, g ---- "Richard Kaestner" wrote: > Please don't beat for a novice' question ;=) > > As I understand from documentation, PicoBSD is > - based on "a quite old version" of FreeBSD ... > - has been merged to the "standard" FreeBSD sources and basically _is_ > BSD > - should run quite well on a 486/33Mhz, 16 - 32 MB > (not regarding application specific issues) > - "hard" real-time is not really a domain of *BSD > - I shold be able to build an embedded system, using the source tree > (after getting deeper into documentation ;=) ) > - and finally, develop application on a FreeBSD system, > create a package and > install it togehter with picoBSD in an embedded system > > Could anyone please correct my above statements (which are actually > questions!), > and give me pointers to recommended readings (besides the files supplied > in /usr/src/release/picobsd ) > > > After working already for some time on industrial control systems, > I would > like to make life easier, using a prooven, stable kernel (which since > late > last year, I think to know, BSD is). > > > Thanks for your help! > > > -- > ciao - > Richard > > "you have moved your mouse, please reboot to make this change take > effect" > > Richard Kästner > Woerthgasse 17 > 2500 Baden mailto:richard.kaestner@ycn.com > Austria > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Feb 4 1:29:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from gidgate.gid.co.uk (gid.co.uk [194.32.164.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DAF037B417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 01:29:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rb@localhost) by gidgate.gid.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g149S8f43697; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:28:08 GMT (envelope-from rb) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020204092659.00b7f100@gid.co.uk> X-Sender: rbmail@gid.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 09:27:53 +0000 To: "gerry link" From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: picoBSD: newbies question Cc: In-Reply-To: <20020204083700.YDVO27419.mta10.onebox.com@onebox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, >Not sure, but is Pico even being really used/worked on any more? Most >of the docs and stuff all date back to 1998 or so. PicoBSD is alive and well, but the site is *way* out of date. -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 977 4017 rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 (0)118 989 4254 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Feb 4 2:37:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.inode.at (goliath.inode.at [195.58.161.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EBC37B420 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 02:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from line82.adsl-dynamic.inode.at ([213.229.7.82] helo=inode.at) by smtp.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16XgVS-0004Gu-00 for small@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:37:50 +0100 Message-ID: <3C5E6460.2E15D49B@inode.at> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:37:20 +0100 From: Michael Bretterklieber Organization: JAWA Management Software GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: small@freebsd.org Subject: 4.5R build problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have problems to build picobsd on 4.5R. the picobsd-script in the build-directory doesn't work correctly. I can't set any value with the dialog. If I choose a type then after choosing it the value is lost. I debugged It and found that it works if I remove the () from the dialog ... main_dialog() ...... case ${ans} in T) ... # (dialog --menu "Setup the type of configuration" 12 70 5 $l \ # 2> ${c_reply} && set_type "`cat ${c_reply}`" ${SITE} ) || true ^^^^ ^^doesn't work dialog --menu "Setup the type of configuration" 12 70 5 $l \ 2> ${c_reply} && set_type "`cat ${c_reply}`" ${SITE} ^^^^works It seems that the () produce implicit a subshell, because in the set_type-function the values are correct set and after leaving this function the values are lost. bye, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Feb 4 2:49:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.inode.at (goliath.inode.at [195.58.161.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0B837B41B for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 02:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from line82.adsl-dynamic.inode.at ([213.229.7.82] helo=inode.at) by smtp.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16Xggx-0004r3-00 for small@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:49:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3C5E672A.A01B58BF@inode.at> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:49:14 +0100 From: Michael Bretterklieber Organization: JAWA Management Software GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: small@freebsd.org Subject: 4.5R bridge build-problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. in bridge/crunch.conf is the line special more srcdir /usr/ports/picobsd/more , but the more-port is missing bye -- -------------------------------------- E-mail: Michael.Bretterklieber@jawa.at ---------------------------- JAWA MANAGEMENT und SOFTWARE Liebenauer Hauptstr. 200 A-8041 GRAZ Tel: ++43-(0)316-403274-12 Fax: ++43-(0)316-403274-10 GSM: ++43-(0)676-93 96 698 homepage: http://www.jawa.at --------- privat ----------- E-mail: mbretter@inode.at homepage: http://www.inode.at/mbretter -------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Feb 4 9: 1:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from okc-65-28-129-29.mmcable.com (okc-65-28-129-29.mmcable.com [65.28.129.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F40A37B429 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jss@localhost) by okc-65-28-129-29.mmcable.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g14Gt7l38985; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:55:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jss@subatomix.com) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:55:06 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" To: gerry link Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: picoBSD: newbies question In-Reply-To: <20020204083700.YDVO27419.mta10.onebox.com@onebox.com> Message-ID: <20020204104809.V38977-100000@kenny.subatomix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, gerry link wrote: > Basic question I guess I have is, should I actually invest time into > Pico, or simply go with Free/Open? You should simply go with FreeBSD itself. It is almost dirt-simple to make your own tiny distro, mainly because all of the source you need is in once place under a common build system. I'm no UNIX expert, but I learned how to do it in one day by reading the pico scripts. I think that nowadays PicoBSD should be viewed as more of a learning tool than the last word on small FreeBSD. Most of the people using fmall FreeBSD in production today have their own custom system for building it. I had a toolkit I was working on and almost got to public release, but I left the employer who was paying me to do it and have not had time to work on it again. It will be finished...someyear. -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss@subatomix.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Feb 4 10:37:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from darkstar.wave-net.com.br (wv-acc2-ssa-C8B06E02.brdterra.com.br [200.176.110.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106E937B417 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:37:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from jcrr (wv-acc2-ssa-C8B06E01.brdterra.com.br [200.176.110.1]) by darkstar.wave-net.com.br (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g14GgkWY046889 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:42:48 GMT Message-ID: <008401c1adb3$56575600$2c00a8c0@intranet.wavenet.com.br> From: "Joao Carlos" To: Subject: /dev/card0 not found Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:37:07 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I'd like to know how i can create a device in the picobsd image. I need these devices crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 50, 0 Jan 2 2000 /dev/card0 crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 50, 1 Jan 2 2000 /dev/card1 crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 50, 2 Jan 2 2000 /dev/card2 crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 50, 3 Jan 2 2000 /dev/card3 on my disk image. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Feb 5 7:21:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ipsnetwork.net (mail.ipsnetwork.net [209.202.83.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C9C37B423 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 07:21:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from apache@localhost) by mail.ipsnetwork.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g15FWme09378; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:32:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 10:32:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200202051532.g15FWme09378@mail.ipsnetwork.net> From: "Nathan Vidican" <> To: small@freebsd.org Reply-To: nathan@vidican.com Subject: SBC-GX1 (Geode based embedded computer) ... any experiences w/ Pico/Free BSD? X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.24 X-IPAddress: 204.225.7.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was wondering if anyone has had any experience running pico and/or free bsd on an SBC-GX1 embedded pc from Arcom? (see http://www.arcomcontrols.com/products/icp/pc104/processors/SBC_GX1.htm ) I am looking to use the device, but I need it to run FreeBSD in order to remain compatale with the rest of my system software. The only device I'm not sure about would be the touch-screen interface; I plan on using the thing with either a 640x480 6.5inch screen with a resistive touch-screen, or an 8->10 inch @ 800x600. Any ideas/comments/suggestions/experiences with this device and/or cpu all-together would be greatly appreciated. -- Nathan Vidican Nathan@Vidican.com http://Nathan.Vidican.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Feb 5 13:35:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185DF37B434 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g15LZGi11260; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:35:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g15LZCL32241; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:35:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 14:34:49 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20020205.143449.110812080.imp@village.org> To: nathan@vidican.com Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SBC-GX1 (Geode based embedded computer) ... any experiences w/ Pico/Free BSD? From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200202051532.g15FWme09378@mail.ipsnetwork.net> References: <200202051532.g15FWme09378@mail.ipsnetwork.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had a Geode based embedded computer in house for 30 minutes about a week ago and our standard CF boots on it w/o problems (well, I did have to hack the boot loader env to make root ad2 rather than ad0 with the CF adapter that comes with the unit). Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Feb 5 17:40:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from tetard.starbsd.org (cpe.atm0-0-0-2041003.0x503fdae6.boanxx7.customer.tele.dk [80.63.218.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D451637B405 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 17:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from beurk.balder (beurk [192.168.249.40]) by tetard.starbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645CD16F95; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 02:40:18 +0100 (MET) Received: by beurk.balder (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B091651603; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 02:40:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 02:40:44 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Nat Semi Geode (GX1) SBC. Message-ID: <20020206024044.M32632@beurk.balder> References: <20020130.230141.110112715.imp@village.org> <20020131113732.E83639@beurk.balder> <20020202155045.A83305@vinyl.catpipe.net> <20020202.120612.40134821.imp@village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020202.120612.40134821.imp@village.org>; from imp@village.org on Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 12:06:12PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG M. Warner Losh (imp) writes: > : > : This doesn't happen (as much) when using the video patch. > > Interesting. Sounds like random data corruption then... I haven't > had a chance to put things through their paces with the geode board > yet (we got it in, then desided that we wanted a different model for > our application). All problems have gone away when I switched to 4.5-R... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Feb 7 2:42:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from Post.com2com.ru (Post.com2com.ru [195.98.162.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D1237B41F for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 02:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from com2com.ru (ws215.com2com.ru [195.98.160.215]) by Post.com2com.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14665 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:42:29 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from vigov@com2com.ru) Message-ID: <3C625A14.F30345DD@com2com.ru> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 13:42:29 +0300 From: Eugene Vigovskiy Organization: 2COM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: SUBSCRIBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Feb 7 2:50:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from Post.com2com.ru (Post.com2com.ru [195.98.162.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D7B37B41A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 02:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from eugene (ws215.com2com.ru [195.98.160.215]) by Post.com2com.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15806 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:50:27 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from vigov@com2com.ru) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:50:26 +0300 From: Eugene Vigovskiy X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Reply-To: Eugene Vigovskiy Organization: 2COM X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <156313969.20020207135026@com2com.ru> To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-small To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Feb 7 13:35: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com (mailout06.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B34A37B405 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:34:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd11.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16Yw6R-0006Kp-0A; Thu, 07 Feb 2002 22:29:11 +0100 Received: from highlander.ironmaik.com (080932962-0001@[217.228.214.124]) by fmrl11.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16Yw6P-0iZqZEC; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:29:09 +0100 Received: (from bachmann@localhost) by highlander.ironmaik.com (8.11.6/Ironmaik-1.0) id g17LTbO86262 for freebsd-small@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:29:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bachmann) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:29:37 +0100 From: Maik Bachmann To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: picobsd-mod and others Message-ID: <20020207222937.R27215@ironmaik.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i X-Sender: 080932962-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, some questions regarding picobsd since he doc at freebsd.org/~picobsd seems outdated since ages :( Maybe someone can point me to some newer doc if available. Fighting with CDROM ISO images for multias, which I didn't thought would cost me time ..... me primary goal is to try picobsd on alpha for a floppy based firewall router. Yep, I know alpha bins will be larger than i386 and I will probably run into trouble throwing them onto floppy... But now the questions: - current crunch seems to be based on version 0.2 (or is it an old README only). I found 0.3 on the net. Why 0.2 then ? - picobsd seems to be version 0.5 even if its only a number (I read the coment in cvs rep). Are there plans to continue, planned features etc ? - whats about picobsd-mod-1.0.1 by papowell. This seems not to be merged into main branch. What are the reasons, simply time or some pratical reasons ? - can I do more than one floppy (probably needed for alpha, if possible at all) - this is also why I asked the last question where its explicitely mentioned to be possible. - reasons (exept size) why pico can't be build on alpha anyway ? TIA ---Maik -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Maik Bachmann ---------------- secnetix GmbH & Co KG _/ Oettingenstr. 2 -------------- D-80538 Muenchen _/ Tel(priv.): +49-8093-2962 ---- Mobil: +49-172-8305649 _/ Email: bachmann@secnetix.de -- IRC: IronMaik _/ PGP KeyID: F7A67E11 ---------- PGP Fingerprint: _/ CA 3B AA EB 7F 6F 7D 7A 54 D4 AA 01 82 8E 32 9C _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Feb 8 15:24:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from borg.inreach.com (mail.unlimited.net [209.142.2.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647E237B41E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:24:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from unlimited.net (209-142-4-28.stk.inreach.net [209.142.4.28]) by borg.inreach.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C633C1B72D for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:23:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3C645F37.3FBFBFDE@unlimited.net> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 15:28:55 -0800 From: John Oram X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.org Subject: noticed one brief comment about picoBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is a Chat transcript of an interview with Jordan K. Hubbard on 01.27.2002. If you do a find on "[23:41] " there is a brief comment about picoBSD. John Oram To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Feb 9 13:37: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from jhs.muc.de (jhs.muc.de [193.149.49.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB2637B416 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:36:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from park.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g19BXER13997; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 11:33:14 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200202091133.g19BXER13997@jhs.muc.de> To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov" Reply-To: "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov" , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: set uf UNIX utilites written on asm From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd - Munich Unix & Internet consultancy X-Web: http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Feb 2002 17:22:37 +0100." <1013185357.5139.1.camel@vbook.express.ru> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 12:33:14 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vladimir, Your posting seems better not on hackers@ list, but on small@ so I reposted it with this header: To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG cc: "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov" Reply-to: "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov" , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG bcc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org All picobsd follow up to freebsd-small@ please. PS I wonder if we have or should have a mail alias picobsd@freebsd --> small@freebsd ? or similar (it might make it easier to relate things) ? Reference: > From: "Vladimir B. " Grebenschikov > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 17:22:37 +0100 > Message-id: <1013185357.5139.1.camel@vbook.express.ru> "Vladimir B. " Grebenschikov wrote: > Hi > > May it will be interesting for createing small setup like picobsd: > > http://linuxassembly.org/asmutils.html > > -- > SW Soft, Moscow > Vladimir B. Grebenschikov, vova@sw.ru > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > Julian J.Stacey Munich Unix (FreeBSD, Linux etc) Independent Consultant Reduce costs to secure jobs: Use free software: http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/free/ Ihr Rauchen = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Schnupftabak probieren ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Feb 9 15:57: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mailer2.webgiro.com [213.162.131.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8B537B41A for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:57:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from webgiro.com (mailer2.webgiro.com [213.162.131.18]) by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB7868469; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 00:56:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3C65B71A.CECE3113@webgiro.com> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 00:56:10 +0100 From: Andrzej Bialecki Organization: WebGiro AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Vladimir B. Grebenschikov" , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: set uf UNIX utilites written on asm References: <200202091133.g19BXER13997@jhs.muc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > "Vladimir B. " Grebenschikov wrote: > > Hi > > > > May it will be interesting for createing small setup like picobsd: > > > > http://linuxassembly.org/asmutils.html > > > > -- > > SW Soft, Moscow > > Vladimir B. Grebenschikov, vova@sw.ru It would have been, if not for the fact that they are put under GPL - this essentially makes them impossible to use in an embedded system, without forcing the whole system to use GPL. Have you considered using double licensing (GPL _or_ BSD)? -- Andrzej // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // Andrzej Bialecki , Chief System Architect // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // FreeBSD developer (http://www.freebsd.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message