From owner-freebsd-sparc Sun May 26 2:51:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (p1.proxy.tpo.fi [212.246.17.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E32E637B40A; Sun, 26 May 2002 02:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [102.225.27.129] by web.mail.halfeye.com with SMTP; Sun, 26 May 0102 07:57:31 +0200 Reply-To: Message-ID: <034a86b31d2d$2446e7d6$3ac78ee0@npekiy> From: To: Cc: Subject: @@@@@@recieve all your cable channels@@@@@@ Date: Sun, 26 May 0102 09:42:16 -0000 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C2_24A78C4C.B6350D55" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------=_NextPart_000_00C2_24A78C4C.B6350D55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 TWFrZSB5b3VyIFQuViBiZSBhbGwgaXQgY2FuIGJlIQ0KV2l0aCBvdXIgQ2Fi bGUgQ29udmVydGVyL0Rlc2NyYW1ibGVyICggQWxsIEluIE9uZSBVbml0KSEN ClJlY2VpdmUgYWxsIHRoZSBjaGFubmVscyBvZmZlcmVkIGJ5IHlvdXIgY2Fi bGUgY29tcGFueSENCk5ldmVyIG1pc3MgYW55dGhpbmcgYWdhaW4hISENClVu aXZlcnNhbCB3b3JraW5nIG9uIDk5JSBvZiBhbGwgY2FibGUgY29tcGFuaWVz IQ0KMTAwJSBCdWxsZXRwcm9vZiEgKCBOZXZlciB3aWxsIGJlIGRlcHJvZ3Jh bW1lZCApDQozMCBEYXkgTW9uZXkgQmFjayBHdWFyYW50ZWUhDQoNCi0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLQ0KDQpGb3IgbW9yZSBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbiBvciB0byBvcmRlciBw bGVhc2UgY2FsbCAxLTgwMC01MDYtNTQ5Mw0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KVGhpcyBt ZXNzYWdlIHdpbGwgb25seSBiZSBzZW50IHRvIHlvdSBvbmNlLg0KWW91IHdp bGwgbm90IHJlY2VpdmUgYW55IGZ1dHVyZSB1cGRhdGVzLg0KQW55IHF1ZXN0 aW9ucyBwbGVhc2UgY2FsbCAxLTgwMC01MDYtNTQ5My4NCjE4NzNDUGFIMS05 MTVOUlV1NTk3MG96UUo3LTQzN1NoTWIxMjk5QkdpUzEtMTkxckRrcDY0Njlw RVdWMC01MTdabExVMTY2N3lySUlsNzI= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sun May 26 8:38:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408DA37B408 for ; Sun, 26 May 2002 08:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g4QFcmJn009519; Sun, 26 May 2002 08:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4QFckkA009518; Sun, 26 May 2002 08:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 08:38:46 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Alex Deiter Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with gem on receive: MAC rx fault, status 3 Message-ID: <20020526083846.B8434@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <616092620.20020523092222@komi.mts.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <616092620.20020523092222@komi.mts.ru>; from tiamat@komi.mts.ru on Thu, May 23, 2002 at 09:22:22AM +0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 09:22:22AM +0400, Alex Deiter wrote: > >> FreeBSD/sparc64 boot block > Boot path: /pci@1f,0/pci@1/scsi@8/disk@0,0:a > Boot loader: /boot/loader > Console: OpenFirmware console > disk0 is /pci@1f,0/pci@1/scsi@8/disk@0 > FreeBSD/sparc64 loader > bootpath="/pci@1f,0/pci@1/scsi@8/disk@0,0:a" > loaddev=disk0s0a: > > \ > \: unknown command > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >>>> Why there is this error? The loader does not have Ficl support yet, and thus cannot properly interrupt one of the start up scripts. You can ignore this "error"; it hurts nothing right now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sun May 26 21:29:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from madlen.mts.ru (madlen.mts.ru [212.44.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E5B37B403; Sun, 26 May 2002 21:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stella.komi.mts.ru (stella [10.50.1.1]) by madlen.mts.ru with ESMTP id g4R4TBK14228; Mon, 27 May 2002 08:29:12 +0400 (MSD) Received: from dav.komi.mts.ru (dav.komi.mts.ru [10.50.1.37]) (authenticated as tiamat with CRAM-MD5) by stella.komi.mts.ru (MTS Komi) with ESMTP id g4R4T7R04050; Mon, 27 May 2002 08:29:09 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tiamat@komi.mts.ru) Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 08:29:07 +0400 From: Alex Deiter X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60k) Reply-To: Alex Deiter Organization: MTS X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <106342023423.20020527082907@komi.mts.ru> To: "David O'Brien" Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problem with gem on receive: MAC rx fault, status 3 In-Reply-To: <20020526083846.B8434@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <616092620.20020523092222@komi.mts.ru> <20020526083846.B8434@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello David, Sunday, May 26, 2002, 7:38:46 PM, you wrote: >> > \ >> \: unknown command >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >>>> Why there is this error? DOB> The loader does not have Ficl support yet, and thus cannot properly DOB> interrupt one of the start up scripts. You can ignore this "error"; it DOB> hurts nothing right now. Thanks! On Netra T1 installed two 10/100 Mbps ethernet ports. Why one is accessible only? severina# ifconfig -l gem0 lo0 ppp0 What to do with an error 'MAC rx fault, status 3' ? # dmesg |egrep 'phy|gem' gem0: mem 0xe0400000-0xe041ffff irq 6 at devic e 12.1 on pci2 miibus0: on gem0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto gem0: Ethernet address: 00:03:ba:13:30:71 using internal phy # ifconfig gem0 gem0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.50.1.9 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.50.1.255 ether 00:03:ba:13:30:71 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active ftp> get ports.tar.bz2 local: ports.tar.bz2 remote: ports.tar.bz2 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||49385|) 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'ports.tar.bz2' (52432031 bytes). 0% | | 0 0.00 KB/s --:-- ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 16% |***** | 8608 KB 3.99 MB/s 00:10 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 23% |******** | 12115 KB 3.82 MB/s 00:09 ETAM AC rx fault, status 2 30% |*********** | 15516 KB 3.69 MB/s 00:09 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 30% |*********** | 15574 KB 2.50 MB/s 00:13 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 32% |*********** | 16854 KB 2.31 MB/s 00:14 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 35% |************ | 18138 KB 2.18 MB/s 00:14 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 41% |*************** | 21100 KB 2.26 MB/s 00:12 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 43% |*************** | 22345 KB 1.96 MB/s 00:14 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 58% |********************* | 30119 KB 1.62 MB/s 00:12 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 59% |********************* | 30210 KB 1.27 MB/s 00:16 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 72% |************************** | 37271 KB 1.44 MB/s 00:09 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 87% |******************************** | 44727 KB 1.61 MB/s 00:03 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 87% |******************************** | 44787 KB 1.55 MB/s 00:04 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 92% |********************************** | 47401 KB 1.58 MB/s 00:02 ETAM AC rx fault, status 3 100% |*************************************| 51203 KB 1.60 MB/s 00:00 ETA 100% |*************************************| 51203 KB 1.60 MB/s 00:00 ETA2 26 Transfer complete. 52432031 bytes received in 00:31 (1.59 MB/s) Thanks! -- Best regards, Alex mailto:tiamat@komi.mts.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sun May 26 22:49:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from k6.locore.ca (k6.locore.ca [198.96.117.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465CE37B404 for ; Sun, 26 May 2002 22:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jake@localhost) by k6.locore.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g4R643D18213; Mon, 27 May 2002 02:04:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jake) Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 02:04:03 -0400 From: Jake Burkholder To: Alex Deiter Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with gem on receive: MAC rx fault, status 3 Message-ID: <20020527020403.K62759@locore.ca> References: <616092620.20020523092222@komi.mts.ru> <20020526083846.B8434@dragon.nuxi.com> <106342023423.20020527082907@komi.mts.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <106342023423.20020527082907@komi.mts.ru>; from tiamat@komi.mts.ru on Mon, May 27, 2002 at 08:29:07AM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apparently, On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 08:29:07AM +0400, Alex Deiter said words to the effect of; > Hello David, > > Sunday, May 26, 2002, 7:38:46 PM, you wrote: > > >> > \ > >> \: unknown command > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> >>>> Why there is this error? > > DOB> The loader does not have Ficl support yet, and thus cannot properly > DOB> interrupt one of the start up scripts. You can ignore this "error"; it > DOB> hurts nothing right now. > > Thanks! > > On Netra T1 installed two 10/100 Mbps ethernet ports. Why one is accessible only? > Thomas Moestl ported the gem driver, I don't know much about it. Most likely the hardware violates the PCI spec in some way shape or form. > severina# ifconfig -l > gem0 lo0 ppp0 > > What to do with an error 'MAC rx fault, status 3' ? If it doesn't actually affect the interface just ignore it. There was a recent commit to the gem driver to fix a problem which sounds related: tmm 2002/05/24 05:47:42 PDT Modified files: sys/dev/gem if_gem.c Log: Fully reset a gem on some error conditions; otherwise it would hang in about 1 of 10 cases. Proposed and tested by: phk Revision Changes Path 1.5 +4 -0 src/sys/dev/gem/if_gem.c Note that the hme driver gets errors back from the hardware quite often; our best guess is that the hardware times out trying to push the on card buffer out to main memory, either due to other bus traffic or due to the latency timer being set too low. Jake > > # dmesg |egrep 'phy|gem' > gem0: mem 0xe0400000-0xe041ffff irq 6 at devic > e 12.1 on pci2 > miibus0: on gem0 > ukphy0: on miibus0 > ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > gem0: Ethernet address: 00:03:ba:13:30:71 > using internal phy > > # ifconfig gem0 > gem0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 10.50.1.9 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.50.1.255 > ether 00:03:ba:13:30:71 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > > ftp> get ports.tar.bz2 > local: ports.tar.bz2 remote: ports.tar.bz2 > 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||49385|) > 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'ports.tar.bz2' (52432031 bytes). > 0% | | 0 0.00 KB/s --:-- ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 16% |***** | 8608 KB 3.99 MB/s 00:10 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 23% |******** | 12115 KB 3.82 MB/s 00:09 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 2 > 30% |*********** | 15516 KB 3.69 MB/s 00:09 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 30% |*********** | 15574 KB 2.50 MB/s 00:13 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 32% |*********** | 16854 KB 2.31 MB/s 00:14 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 35% |************ | 18138 KB 2.18 MB/s 00:14 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 41% |*************** | 21100 KB 2.26 MB/s 00:12 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 43% |*************** | 22345 KB 1.96 MB/s 00:14 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 58% |********************* | 30119 KB 1.62 MB/s 00:12 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 59% |********************* | 30210 KB 1.27 MB/s 00:16 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 72% |************************** | 37271 KB 1.44 MB/s 00:09 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 87% |******************************** | 44727 KB 1.61 MB/s 00:03 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 87% |******************************** | 44787 KB 1.55 MB/s 00:04 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 92% |********************************** | 47401 KB 1.58 MB/s 00:02 ETAM > AC rx fault, status 3 > 100% |*************************************| 51203 KB 1.60 MB/s 00:00 ETA > 100% |*************************************| 51203 KB 1.60 MB/s 00:00 ETA2 > 26 Transfer complete. > 52432031 bytes received in 00:31 (1.59 MB/s) > > Thanks! > > -- > Best regards, > Alex mailto:tiamat@komi.mts.ru > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Mon May 27 18:53:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from hanmail.net (m251.theresidences.com [209.52.227.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E68637B403 for ; Mon, 27 May 2002 18:53:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "정태식" To: Subject: [광고]100% 꽁짜!!! 주소를 짧게 + 검색엔진 등록 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-KR" Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 18:53:18 -0700 Reply-To: "정태식" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020528015331.7E68637B403@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://kr.is-ok.com 무료로 길고 긴 고객의 홈페이지 주소를 짧고 기억하기 쉽게 줄여드립니다. 서두르세요!! 서비스오픈 기념으로 300개가 넘는 검색엔진에 완전 꽁짜로 등록해드리고 광고해드립니다. 야호! 아주 간단한 한단계 등록으로 즉시 무료로 사용 가능합니다. ---------------------------------------------------------------- 본 메일은 정보통신부 권고 사항에 의거 제목에 [광고]라 표시된 광고 메일입니다. mcha40@hanmail.net 왼쪽 버튼을 클릭하시면 수신거부처리가 이루어 집니다. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri May 31 12:54:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from nmc.dialdata.com.br (nmc.vianetworks.com.br [200.219.198.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D976D37B404 for ; Fri, 31 May 2002 12:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fabricio (fabricio.dialdata.com.br [200.219.192.131]) by nmc.dialdata.com.br (8/8) with ESMTP id g4VHldc42517 for ; Fri, 31 May 2002 17:47:40 GMT Message-ID: <009d01c208dd$008adb90$02c0a8c0@fabricio> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paulo_Fabr=EDcio_Pessoa_de_Oliveira?= To: Subject: subscribe Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:54:40 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe Paulo Fabricio Pessoa de Oliveira - Administrador de Redes fabricio@vianetworks.com.br VIA NET.WORKS BRASIL - Provedor Corporativo Tel.: (11) 3049-1180 ramal: 1204 Cel.: (11) 9653-0385 Fax: (11) 3049-1180 ramal: 1275 Suporte T�cnico N�vel 1: (11) 3038-5453 (07:00 �s 22:00) Suporte T�cnico N�vel 2: (11) 3049-1150 (22:00 �s 07:00) http://www.vianetworks.com.br Vamos falar de seguran�a? http://www.viasecurity.com.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Jun 1 9:45:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from web21103.mail.yahoo.com (web21103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2DE037B415 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2002 09:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020601164518.89430.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Jun 2002 09:45:18 PDT Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 09:45:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Subject: Sparc32 ABI To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [not subscibed, please CC' me. thanks] Hi. I was wondering what is the difficulty level of porting the sparc32/sunos32 ABI stuff from NetBSD to FreeBSD; like it has been done with the Windows PE compat stuff. I am currently going over the SPARC ABI documentation. Basically; I know everyone will say I am doing too much, but trust me, I have finished some stuff of mine, and have some free time over holidays to do it, as I am sure there will not be "that much" of a difference between NetBSD and FreeBSD. Thanks. Hiten. hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message