From owner-freebsd-standards Sun Dec 8 7:11:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDC637B401 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 07:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from popelschnipser.de (ultrakoreggd.org [217.160.78.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D9A643EB2 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 07:11:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@informatik.uni-bremen.de) Received: (qmail 3802 invoked by uid 1048); 8 Dec 2002 15:11:38 -0000 Received: from marc@informatik.uni-bremen.de by p10089345 by uid 1045 with qmail-scanner-1.15 (clamscan: 0.54. spamassassin: 2.42. Clear:. Processed in 0.269665 secs); 08 Dec 2002 15:11:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.100.100?) (217.227.199.133) by ultrakoreggd.org with SMTP; 8 Dec 2002 15:11:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 16:11:37 +0100 From: Marc Recht To: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org Subject: POSIX and the real life or FreeBSD too strict ? Message-ID: <584000000.1039360297@leeloo.intern.geht.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.0b9 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="==========2265712778==========" Sender: owner-freebsd-standards@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==========2265712778========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi! While working with some third-party applications, which require the=20 availabilty of POSIX functions, I became conviced that FreeBSD is (way) too strict. IMHO no non-POSIX is=20 available isn't workable in the real world and isn't neccessary regarding=20 the standard. (IMHO it isn't even in the spirit of the standard..) If I=20 catched the standard correctly it demands only that the POSIX=20 function/defines/headers are available not that others are not. (Please=20 correct me if I'm wrong.) And, most important, it isn't done on the other UNIX implementations out=20 there (at least none I know about..). So we get needlessly a lot of=20 uncompileable code. Which forces vendors to do extra work to deal with=20 specifically. Are there any plans to change FreeBSD's behaviour to be less strict ? Best regards, Marc "Premature optimization is the root of all evil." -- Donald E. Knuth --==========2265712778========== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE982Ep7YQCetAaG3MRAu0lAJ919CadDJUAxALMKjANn4afWyt9nwCcD+wf nSkaBj4LUBk8qmOsLBa0inQ= =LR3n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==========2265712778==========-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-standards" in the body of the message