From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jan 5 2: 1:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E4037B401; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 02:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58E743EB2; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 02:01:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0372C5194F; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:31:46 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:31:45 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: FreeBSD Chat Cc: Cliff Sarginson Subject: Re: Compilers are like Gods. They almost never answer prayers Message-ID: <20030105100145.GA14443@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200212312041.gBVKfr183480@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> <3E120659.3D60EB30@mindspring.com> <20030101140530.GA11468@raggedclown.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20030104112345.02a48b70@localhost> <20030104201542.GA10588@raggedclown.net> <3E17535D.15E80093@mindspring.com> <20030105000236.GB739@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030105005145.GE10722@raggedclown.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030105005145.GE10722@raggedclown.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 5 January 2003 at 1:51:45 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 04:02:36PM -0800, David Schultz wrote: >> (Not surprisingly, the professor was Richard Fateman. :-) But >> writing a *good* compiler is hard. Getting one to optimize well >> for a dozen target architectures and handle every little detail of >> the C language plus a few reasonable extensions takes a heck of a >> lot of gruntwork. It's not nearly as simple as saying, ``Okay, >> we're going to take a break from kernel hacking for a week and >> write a non-GPL'd C/C++ compiler for FreeBSD.'' > > Bollocks. I took exception to this, and asked Cliff in private mail to learn behave himself. His answer was simple: "No". There aren't many rules to FreeBSD-chat, but Cliff Sarginson has managed to offend against one of them: be respectful. I'm not trying to pretend that he's the only, or in any way the worst one. But after some discussion, the FreeBSD core team has removed him from the list. Cliff, you're welcome to resubscribe. We won't stop you. But if you carry on with this belligerent tone, we may decide to ban you for longer periods of time. Please realise that other people are worthy of respect. Greg Lehey FreeBSD Core Team -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message