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Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Feb 16 11:43: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB6837B401 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from list-svr.nventure.com (list-svr.nventure.com [208.186.46.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD3643F85 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:43:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plathem@ivestnw.net) Received: from ivestnw.net ([208.187.15.12]) by list-svr.nventure.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-67609U1600L200S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:56:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:42:36 -0800 From: Pat Lathem User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030202 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Copying of Developer's Guide Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi list, I recently tried to print out out the Developer's Guide at a local Kinko's. They refused because it is copyrighted. They looked at page 2 of the guide, and decided that it was not explicit stately that reproduction was allowed (in printed form). Could that page possibly explicitly state that it is permissible to copy the Developer's handbook (with whatever restrictions) in printed form? It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Pat Lathem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Feb 16 12:29:20 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50EB37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D736443FD7 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:29:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown[12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <200302162029130020032tbie>; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:29:13 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1GKQu5F019141; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:26:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h1GKQpgm019138; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:26:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Pat Lathem Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Copying of Developer's Guide References: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 16 Feb 2003 12:26:51 -0800 In-Reply-To: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> Message-ID: Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pat Lathem writes: > I recently tried to print out out the Developer's Guide at a local > Kinko's. They refused because it is copyrighted. They looked at page 2 > of the guide, and decided that it was not explicit stately that > reproduction was allowed (in printed form). Could that page possibly > explicitly state that it is permissible to copy the Developer's handbook > (with whatever restrictions) in printed form? It would be greatly > appreciated. I'm not sure which "page 2" you're referring to, especially since I'm not aware of a "Developer's Guide". Making a few assumptions, I'll ask you to follow the "Copyright" link near the top of http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/index.html Is THAT what Kinkos finds insufficient? Do YOU think that would be insufficient? Do you think it should be? Please state what you know of Kinkos' requirements (and it would be good if you could find out and tell us, if you don't know much about them). How are you supplying the "original"? A URL? A floppy file? Multiple files? How will they accept it? Do they require that the license be in the same file as the document? On the same web site? Will they consider a semi-official (but non-binding) explanation of the license along with the license which they can't (or won't) understand? (This is the third time I've seen mention of Kinkos here.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Feb 16 13:28: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B2E37B401; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689FE43F75; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:28:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (keramida@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1GLS4NS037094; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:28:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1GLS4rQ037090; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:28:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:28:04 -0800 (PST) From: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <200302162128.h1GLS4rQ037090@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keramida@FreeBSD.org, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48324: jail(8) manpage outdated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: jail(8) manpage outdated Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: keramida Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Feb 16 13:26:57 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: Documentation update. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48324 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Feb 16 13:28:25 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACA737B401 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:28:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from list-svr.nventure.com (list-svr.nventure.com [208.186.46.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D0F43F75 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:28:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plathem@ivestnw.net) Received: from ivestnw.net ([208.187.15.12]) by list-svr.nventure.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-67609U1600L200S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:41:42 -0800 Message-ID: <3E500274.4010106@ivestnw.net> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:28:20 -0800 From: Pat Lathem User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030202 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary W. Swearingen" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Copying of Developer's Guide References: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary W. Swearingen wrote: >Pat Lathem writes: > > > >>I recently tried to print out out the Developer's Guide at a local >>Kinko's. They refused because it is copyrighted. They looked at page 2 >>of the guide, and decided that it was not explicit stately that >>reproduction was allowed (in printed form). Could that page possibly >>explicitly state that it is permissible to copy the Developer's handbook >>(with whatever restrictions) in printed form? It would be greatly >>appreciated. >> >> > >I'm not sure which "page 2" you're referring to, especially since I'm >not aware of a "Developer's Guide". Making a few assumptions, I'll >ask you to follow the "Copyright" link near the top of >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/index.html > >Is THAT what Kinkos finds insufficient? > >Do YOU think that would be insufficient? Do you think it should be? > >Please state what you know of Kinkos' requirements (and it would be good >if you could find out and tell us, if you don't know much about them). > >How are you supplying the "original"? A URL? A floppy file? Multiple >files? How will they accept it? Do they require that the license be in >the same file as the document? On the same web site? Will they consider >a semi-official (but non-binding) explanation of the license along with >the license which they can't (or won't) understand? > >(This is the third time I've seen mention of Kinkos here.) > > > My apologies, yes I was referring to the Developer's Handbook. I downloaded and printed off that section (the copyright section) which happens to be page two of the RTF version. I thought it was quite sufficient, especially given that the handbook is presented on the official FreeBSD website. I have hard time following that it is allowable to view it online, but not print it (I suppose that is their interpretation). Specifically what they found insufficient was the lack of mention of printed form. The terms are set forth for for source code form, and compiled form clearly in numbered items. Yes they do require the copyright information be specified within the document. They asked me to print the relevant section and then had someone review if I could "copy" it (just print it, honestly). I believe a non-binding explanation would be acceptable, but I'm not sure, as they don't seem to have a clear policy. I'll try to obtain a copy of their copying policy next time I am there, and can send it to the list if desired. Thanks for your time, Pat Lathem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Feb 16 13:30:18 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432CC37B405 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:30:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C0043F75 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:30:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1GLUGNS037251 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:30:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1GLUGKE037248; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:30:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:30:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302162130.h1GLUGKE037248@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Per Hedeland Subject: Re: docs/48125: [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro(2) Reply-To: Per Hedeland Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48125; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Per Hedeland To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, per@hedeland.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/48125: [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro(2) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:25:21 +0100 Well, I'm glad you appreciated it, but it really wasn't a major effort or anything - mostly just a bit of awk'ing on the respective sources.:-) However, regarding the contractions: I can see where you're coming from, since I gather that using them in "formal" documents is frowned upon - but I must really strongly disagree with your suggestion to change the code! The output of programs should not be changed for such "frivolous" reasons - e.g. there may well be scripts etc out there that, however unwisely, rely on the exact format of error messages to function correctly. Not to mention that using contractions in error messages is a long-standing Unix tradition, even in cases where the message doesn't originate in sys_errlist. I'd suggest that either you consider these strings to not be part of the actual "document text" (which would be correct I think), and thereby exempt from considerations of "good writing style" - or if that isn't acceptable, leave the "Cannot"s in the man page and the "Can't"s in the code - this discrepancy shouldn't matter *too* much to the reader, who is unlikely to be searching the man page for "Can't" anyway... --Per Hedeland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Feb 16 13:46:20 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316FF37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F3543F93 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:46:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1GLkFTS083846; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:46:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1GLkJLP005196; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:46:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1GLkDOQ005195; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:46:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:46:12 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Pat Lathem Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Copying of Developer's Guide Message-ID: <20030216214612.GA1463@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 11:42:36AM -0800, Pat Lathem wrote: > Hi list, > > I recently tried to print out out the Developer's Guide > at a local Kinko's. They refused because it is > copyrighted. They looked at page 2 of the guide, and > decided that it was not explicit stately that > reproduction was allowed (in printed form). Could that > page possibly explicitly state that it is permissible > to copy the Developer's handbook (with whatever > restrictions) in printed form? It would be greatly > appreciated. > I think http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ln12.html is quite clear on that point: you can print it :) Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Feb 16 14:17:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AFD37B401; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.com (pa128.santok.sdi.tpnet.pl [80.49.50.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BCB643F75; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:17:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tycoon@megapolis.pl) Reply-To: From: "Tycoon" Subject: Druckereien in Polen Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:17:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20030216221727.4BCB643F75@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
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 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Feb 16 14:43:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B1D37B401; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:43:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EDD43F3F; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:43:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h1GMhJfI060148; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:43:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:43:34 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Per Hedeland Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Greg Lehey , Bruce Evans Subject: Re: docs/48125: [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro(2) Message-Id: <20030216174334.2cf7984a.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200302162130.h1GLUGKE037248@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200302162130.h1GLUGKE037248@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.9claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:30:16 -0800 (PST) Per Hedeland wrote: > However, regarding the contractions: I can see where you're coming > from, since I gather that using them in "formal" documents is frowned > upon - True, > but I must really strongly disagree with your suggestion to change > the code! The output of programs should not be changed for such > "frivolous" reasons - e.g. there may well be scripts etc out there > that, however unwisely, rely on the exact format of error messages to > function correctly. Not to mention that using contractions in error > messages is a long-standing Unix tradition, even in cases where the > message doesn't originate in sys_errlist. however to my knowledge when Bell Labs originally started producing UNIX the code was actually changed to match the documentation in many instances. People with more knowledge of UNIX history would be better to ask about that, though. I just remember reading something like that, Bruce Evans (bde) or Greg Lehey (grog) come to mind as the correct people to ask. > > I'd suggest that either you consider these strings to not be part of > the actual "document text" (which would be correct I think), and > thereby exempt from considerations of "good writing style" - or if > that isn't acceptable, leave the "Cannot"s in the man page and the > "Can't"s in the code - this discrepancy shouldn't matter *too* much > to the reader, who is unlikely to be searching the man page for > "Can't" anyway... To the best of my knowledge, use of contractions is frowned upon in FreeBSD. Again, this is an issue to take up with the respected parties. I've taken the liberty to cc: them for input. Ideas? -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Feb 16 14:50:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36CF37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437A543F3F for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:50:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1GMoENS057112 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:50:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1GMoDCv057111; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:50:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:50:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302162250.h1GMoDCv057111@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/48125: [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro(2) Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48125; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: Per Hedeland Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Greg Lehey , Bruce Evans Subject: Re: docs/48125: [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro(2) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:43:34 -0500 On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:30:16 -0800 (PST) Per Hedeland wrote: > However, regarding the contractions: I can see where you're coming > from, since I gather that using them in "formal" documents is frowned > upon - True, > but I must really strongly disagree with your suggestion to change > the code! The output of programs should not be changed for such > "frivolous" reasons - e.g. there may well be scripts etc out there > that, however unwisely, rely on the exact format of error messages to > function correctly. Not to mention that using contractions in error > messages is a long-standing Unix tradition, even in cases where the > message doesn't originate in sys_errlist. however to my knowledge when Bell Labs originally started producing UNIX the code was actually changed to match the documentation in many instances. People with more knowledge of UNIX history would be better to ask about that, though. I just remember reading something like that, Bruce Evans (bde) or Greg Lehey (grog) come to mind as the correct people to ask. > > I'd suggest that either you consider these strings to not be part of > the actual "document text" (which would be correct I think), and > thereby exempt from considerations of "good writing style" - or if > that isn't acceptable, leave the "Cannot"s in the man page and the > "Can't"s in the code - this discrepancy shouldn't matter *too* much > to the reader, who is unlikely to be searching the man page for > "Can't" anyway... To the best of my knowledge, use of contractions is frowned upon in FreeBSD. Again, this is an issue to take up with the respected parties. I've taken the liberty to cc: them for input. Ideas? -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Feb 16 14:59:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAAF37B401; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7E643F75; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:59:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1GMxDNS059230; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:59:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1GMxDpA059226; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:59:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:59:13 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Brueffer Message-Id: <200302162259.h1GMxDpA059226@freefall.freebsd.org> To: brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ue@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17104: gethostbyname(3) contains a reference to libc(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: gethostbyname(3) contains a reference to libc(3) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ue Responsible-Changed-By: brueffer Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Feb 16 23:58:15 CET 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: ue is the originator and a committer himself for some time now :-) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17104 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Feb 16 15:37: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576A637B401; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58ED543F85; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:37:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7D1451A32; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:07:02 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:07:02 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Per Hedeland , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Bruce Evans Subject: Code matching docco? (was: docs/48125: [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro(2)) Message-ID: <20030216233702.GB37125@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200302162130.h1GLUGKE037248@freefall.freebsd.org> <20030216174334.2cf7984a.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030216174334.2cf7984a.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 16 February 2003 at 17:43:34 -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:30:16 -0800 (PST) > Per Hedeland wrote: > >> However, regarding the contractions: I can see where you're coming >> from, since I gather that using them in "formal" documents is frowned >> upon - > > True, > >> but I must really strongly disagree with your suggestion to change >> the code! The output of programs should not be changed for such >> "frivolous" reasons - e.g. there may well be scripts etc out there >> that, however unwisely, rely on the exact format of error messages to >> function correctly. Not to mention that using contractions in error >> messages is a long-standing Unix tradition, even in cases where the >> message doesn't originate in sys_errlist. > > however to my knowledge when Bell Labs originally started producing > UNIX the code was actually changed to match the documentation in > many instances. People with more knowledge of UNIX history would be > better to ask about that, though. I just remember reading something > like that, Bruce Evans (bde) or Greg Lehey (grog) come to mind as > the correct people to ask. This seems unlikely. The same people wrote the code and the docco; it's unlikely that changes in the docco would make it out of sync with the code base. It's possible, of course, that they occasionally wrote docco changes first with the intention to change the code, and then did it, but I don't suppose that's what you're talking about. >> I'd suggest that either you consider these strings to not be part of >> the actual "document text" (which would be correct I think), and >> thereby exempt from considerations of "good writing style" - or if >> that isn't acceptable, leave the "Cannot"s in the man page and the >> "Can't"s in the code - this discrepancy shouldn't matter *too* much >> to the reader, who is unlikely to be searching the man page for >> "Can't" anyway... > > To the best of my knowledge, use of contractions is frowned upon in > FreeBSD. Again, this is an issue to take up with the respected parties. > I've taken the liberty to cc: them for input. Ideas? I don't know about the project, but I frown on some contractions and not others. In general, if the contraction is used in normal speech ("can't") I'd think it's OK. If it isn't ("cont'd"), I'd disagree with its use. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+UCCeIubykFB6QiMRAq2aAKCCvLy710/fDxVEgIgBD3x37kxZ7QCeNkVc x+t0YPCkIlnoN/D/hJlMS0E= =EK3O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 2:40:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E357F37B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:40:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3ECF43F75 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HAe7NS064301 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HAe7ag064300; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3980A37B401; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:32:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from amun.isnic.is (amun.isnic.is [193.4.58.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E9443F3F; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:32:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oli@amun.isnic.is) Received: from amun.isnic.is (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amun.isnic.is (8.12.3/8.12.3/isnic) with ESMTP id h1HAW1Yj061645; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:32:02 GMT (envelope-from oli@amun.isnic.is) Received: (from root@localhost) by amun.isnic.is (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1HAW1p9061644; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:32:01 GMT (envelope-from oli) Message-Id: <200302171032.h1HAW1p9061644@amun.isnic.is> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:32:01 GMT From: Olafur Osvaldsson Reply-To: Olafur Osvaldsson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/48365: articles/hubs - Mirror size updated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48365 >Category: docs >Synopsis: articles/hubs - Mirror size updated >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Feb 17 02:40:07 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Olafur Osvaldsson >Release: FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD amun.isnic.is 4.6-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE #4: Thu Jun 20 11:21:56 GMT 2002 root@amun.isnic.is:/u0/obj/usr/src/sys/VA1220 i386 >Description: Updated the mirror sizes for all but CTM as I don't provide a CTM mirror and thus don't know the size for that. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- hubs.diff begins here --- --- en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/article.sgml.orig Mon Feb 17 10:25:13 2003 +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/article.sgml Mon Feb 17 10:28:08 2003 @@ -61,10 +61,10 @@ Here are some approximate figures: - Full FTP Distribution: 60 GB - CVS repository: 1.4 GB + Full FTP Distribution: 100 GB + CVS repository: 2 GB CTM deltas: 1.5 GB - Webpages: 150 MB + Webpages: 300 MB --- hubs.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 2:50:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F2337B401 for ; 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Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:47:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from seanc@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from seanc@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HAllhq067181; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:47:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302171047.h1HAllhq067181@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 02:47:47 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Chittenden Reply-To: Sean Chittenden To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: marcs@draenor.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/48366: Update to Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48366 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update to Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD... >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Feb 17 02:50:14 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sean Chittenden >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD freefall.freebsd.org 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #7: Thu Dec 19 17:31:13 PST 2002 peter@freefall.freebsd.org:/c/src/sys/compile/FREEFALL i386 >Description: This is a pretty simple update that makes the firewall rules used for dialup machines significantly more secure and much smaller. If there are no objections, I'd like to commit this in a week. FWIW, I had it pointed out to me that there is a decided lack of examples for ipfw(8) so I'm idly updating various articles/books bits that I've seen that need updating. Is there anyone else doing similar bits? >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/#dialup_firewall_rules_update Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/dialup-firewall/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.26 diff -u -r1.26 article.sgml --- article.sgml 2 Feb 2003 01:36:40 -0000 1.26 +++ article.sgml 17 Feb 2003 07:25:45 -0000 @@ -64,6 +64,17 @@ + options IPFW2 + + + Enables the new version of IPFW. + Only do this if you're running FreeBSD 4.X, + this is the default in newer versions of + FreeBSD. + + + + options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE @@ -152,7 +163,7 @@ ppp_nat="YES" ppp_profile="profile" - If so, you will need to specifically disable + If so, you will need to specifically disable ppp_nat by making sure you have ppp_nat="NO" in /etc/rc.conf. You will also need to remove any nat enable yes or @@ -161,15 +172,15 @@ - The ruleset for the firewall + The rule set for the firewall We are nearly done now. All that remains now is to define the firewall rules and then we can reboot and the firewall should be up and running. I realize that everyone will want - something slightly different when it comes to their rulebase. - What I have tried to do is write a rulebase that suits most dialup + something slightly different when it comes to their rule base. + What I have tried to do is write a rule base that suits most dialup users. You can obviously modify it to your needs by using the - following rules as the foundation for your own rulebase. First, + following rules as the foundation for your own rule base. First, let's start with the basics of closed firewalling. What you want to do is deny everything by default and then only open up for the things you really need. Rules should be in the order of @@ -187,13 +198,7 @@ Now, let's look at a sample firewall file, that is commented nicely. - # Firewall rules -# Written by Marc Silver (marcs@draenor.org) -# http://draenor.org/ipfw -# Freely distributable - - -# Define the firewall command (as in /etc/rc.firewall) for easy + # Define the firewall command (as in /etc/rc.firewall) for easy # reference. Helps to make it easier to read. fwcmd="/sbin/ipfw" @@ -203,41 +208,35 @@ # Divert all packets through the tunnel interface. $fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via tun0 -# Allow all data from my network card and localhost. Make sure you -# change your network card (mine was fxp0) before you reboot. :) -$fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via lo0 -$fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via fxp0 - -# Allow all connections that I initiate. -$fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any out xmit tun0 setup +# Allow all connections that have dynamic rules built for them, +# but deny established connections that don't have a dynamic rule. +# See ipfw(8) for details. +$fwcmd add check-state +$fwcmd add deny tcp from any to any established + +# Allow all localhost connections +$fwcmd add allow tcp from me to any out via lo0 setup keep-state +$fwcmd add deny tcp from me to any out via lo0 +$fwcmd add allow ip from me to any out via lo0 keep-state + +# Allow all connections from my network card that I initiate +$fwcmd add allow tcp from me to any out xmit any setup keep-state +$fwcmd add deny tcp from me to any +$fwcmd add allow ip from me to any out xmit any keep-state -# Once connections are made, allow them to stay open. -$fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any via tun0 established - -# Everyone on the internet is allowed to connect to the following +# Everyone on the Internet is allowed to connect to the following # services on the machine. This example specifically allows connections -# to ssh and apache. -$fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 80 setup -$fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 22 setup +# to sshd and a webserver. +$fwcmd add allow tcp from any to me dst-port 22,80 in recv any setup keep-state # This sends a RESET to all ident packets. -$fwcmd add reset log tcp from any to any 113 in recv tun0 - -# Allow outgoing DNS queries ONLY to the specified servers. -$fwcmd add allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out xmit tun0 - -# Allow them back in with the answers... :) -$fwcmd add allow udp from x.x.x.x 53 to any in recv tun0 - -# Allow ICMP (for ping and traceroute to work). You may wish to -# disallow this, but I feel it suits my needs to keep them in. -$fwcmd add allow icmp from any to any +$fwcmd add reset log tcp from any to me 113 in recv any # Deny all the rest. $fwcmd add deny log ip from any to any You now have a fully functional firewall that will allow on - connections to ports 80 and 22 and will log any other connection + connections to ports 22 and 80 and will log any other connection attempts. Now, you should be able to safely reboot and your firewall should come up fine. If you find this incorrect in anyway or experience any problems, or have any suggestions to improve this page, please @@ -254,7 +253,7 @@ you could be using the built in &man.ppp.8; filters? - + I will have to be honest and say there is no definitive reason why I use ipfw and @@ -323,7 +322,7 @@ This tutorial assumes that you are running - userland-ppp, therefore the supplied ruleset + userland-ppp, therefore the supplied rule set operates on the tun0 interface, which corresponds to the first connection made with &man.ppp.8; (a.k.a. user-ppp). Additional connections would use @@ -336,7 +335,7 @@ tun0 for ppp0. A quick way to edit the firewall rules to reflect this change is shown below. The - original ruleset is backed up as + original rule set is backed up as fwrules_tun0. &prompt.user; cd /etc/firewall >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 3:10:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5D937B405 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:10:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7016E43FE5 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:10:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HBAFNS074968 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:10:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HBAFs0074967; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:10:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:10:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302171110.h1HBAFs0074967@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: docs/48366: Update to Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD... Reply-To: Ceri Davies Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48366; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri Davies To: Sean Chittenden Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, marcs@draenor.org Subject: Re: docs/48366: Update to Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD... Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:09:03 +0000 On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 02:47:47AM -0800, Sean Chittenden wrote: > This is a pretty simple update that makes the firewall rules used for > dialup machines significantly more secure and much smaller. If there > are no objections, I'd like to commit this in a week. Sean, This looks good, but please commit the whitespace changes separately (the EOL change and the s/ruleset/rule set/ ones). Thanks, Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 3:28: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E80F37B401; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:28:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AAF43F3F; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:28:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (roam@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HBS6NS079190; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:28:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from roam@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HBS6i0079186; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:28:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:28:06 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Pentchev Message-Id: <200302171128.h1HBS6i0079186@freefall.freebsd.org> To: roam@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, roam@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48365: articles/hubs - Mirror size updated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: articles/hubs - Mirror size updated Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->roam Responsible-Changed-By: roam Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Feb 17 03:27:46 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48365 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 3:36:47 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751C437B401; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CE743F75; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:36:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from seanc@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (seanc@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HBajNS081165; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:36:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from seanc@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from seanc@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HBajGM081161; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:36:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:36:45 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Chittenden Message-Id: <200302171136.h1HBajGM081161@freefall.freebsd.org> To: seanc@freebsd.org, seanc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48366: Update to Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update to Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD... State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: seanc State-Changed-When: Mon Feb 17 03:35:57 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed whitespace separate from the changes, thanks! Sorry for the PR spam, my reverse DNS isn't working at the moment so nothings getting through to hub. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48366 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 4: 0:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8F137B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 04:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDB443F93 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 04:00:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HC0RNS085558 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 04:00:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HC0Qh3085535; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 04:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3EF37B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD7543FAF for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:56:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from seanc@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (seanc@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HBu4NS085384 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:56:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from seanc@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from seanc@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HBu4v2085383; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:56:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302171156.h1HBu4v2085383@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 03:56:04 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Chittenden Reply-To: Sean Chittenden To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/48371: Small update to developers-handbook... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48371 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Small update to developers-handbook... >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Feb 17 04:00:26 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sean Chittenden >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD freefall.freebsd.org 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #7: Thu Dec 19 17:31:13 PST 2002 peter@freefall.freebsd.org:/c/src/sys/compile/FREEFALL i386 >Description: Few small bits in this: 1) Update for the .emacs example to add highlighting of whitespace. 2) Nuked whitespace that I noticed. 3) Ran a spell checker over the doc and Americanized some very common American English words (intepreted -> interpreted, optimise -> optimize ). Those words are seen frequently enough that non-American and non-Brittish folks may stumble over their non- American English spellings so I corrected them. Honestly, I'm only really interested in #1, but #2 and #3 kinda came for free during the update. Any preferences on how I should commit this? (#1 + #3), then #2? ::shrug:: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Complete patch here, but can easily be broken down for the sake of keeping whitespace commits indepdent from content changes: http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/#developer_tools_update1 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 6:31:23 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC75137B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (office.sbnd.net [217.75.140.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE24443FAF for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:31:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 59725 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Feb 2003 14:29:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:29:59 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: [CFR] Add a warning about the ports-base CVSup subcollection Message-ID: <20030217142959.GL377@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: doc@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ai3I8gwHc37+ASRI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ai3I8gwHc37+ASRI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, This is something that has popped up every so often on the mailing lists, and a blurb has been added to the ports-supfile example in the source tree. However, there are still people who do not realize the full importance of updating the ports-base subcollection; here is a patch to the Handbook and the FAQ that will hopefully bring their number down even more. As usual, any comments, suggestions, and flames are welcome. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 If I had finished this sentence, Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgm= l,v retrieving revision 1.270 diff -u -r1.270 chapter.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml 17 Feb 2003 11:= 26:45 -0000 1.270 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml 17 Feb 2003 14:= 19:32 -0000 @@ -2526,6 +2526,26 @@ The FreeBSD Ports Collection. =20 + + If you do not want to update the whole of + ports-all (the whole ports tree), + but use one of the subcollections listed below, + make sure that you always update + the ports-base subcollection! + Whenever something changes in the ports build + infrastructure represented by + ports-base, it is virtually certain + that those changes will be used by real + ports real soon. Thus, if you only update the + real ports and they use some of the new + features, there is a very high chance that their build + will fail with some mysterious error message. The + very first thing to do in this + case is to make sure that your + ports-base subcollection is up to + date. + + =20 ports-archivers @@ -2559,8 +2579,20 @@ release=3Dcvs =20 - Miscellaneous files at the top of - /usr/ports. + The Ports Collection build infrastructure - + various files located in the + Mk/ and + Tools/ subdirectories of + /usr/ports. + + + Please see the important + warning above: you should + always update this + subcollection, whenever you update any part of + the FreeBSD Ports Collection! + =20 Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.510 diff -u -r1.510 book.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 24 Jan 2003 22:16:02 -0000 1.510 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 17 Feb 2003 14:19:44 -0000 @@ -5178,6 +5178,26 @@ connection. + + + + I updated parts of the Ports Collection using CVSup, and + now many ports fail to build with mysterious error messages! + What happened? Is the Ports Collection broken in some major + way? + + + + If you only update parts of the Ports Collection, using + one of its CVSup subcollections and not the + ports-all CVSup collection, you should + always update the + ports-base subcollection too! The reasons + are described in the + Handbook. + + =20 --ai3I8gwHc37+ASRI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+UPHm7Ri2jRYZRVMRAmbjAJ9tPmO0AKBDarUGBlMd+LiqPve55QCfbVrB T+E55hIs/8IS7zIQ4Qc8Qpg= =s0ZH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ai3I8gwHc37+ASRI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 6:59:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D2B37B401; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D85F43F75; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:59:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (orb_rules@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HExkVw091567; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:59:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HExkkV091566; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:59:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:59:46 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Peter Pentchev Cc: doc@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFR] Add a warning about the ports-base CVSup subcollection Message-ID: <20030217145946.GF42615@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <20030217142959.GL377@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JcvBIhDvR6w3jUPA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030217142959.GL377@straylight.oblivion.bg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --JcvBIhDvR6w3jUPA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 04:29:59PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > This is something that has popped up every so often on the mailing > lists, and a blurb has been added to the ports-supfile example in the > source tree. However, there are still people who do not realize the > full importance of updating the ports-base subcollection; here is a > patch to the Handbook and the FAQ that will hopefully bring their number > down even more. I only eyeballed the patch, no build, but the language seems fine. Great id= ea. --Stijn --=20 An Orb is for life, not just for Christmas. --JcvBIhDvR6w3jUPA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+UPjiY3r/tLQmfWcRAqx0AKCQnI0SWv+8Rh5jb+eYz4rZ9tpjIgCfdoSd pgcvkq/7a7tmzh5ym/VpCw4= =z2pI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JcvBIhDvR6w3jUPA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 11: 0:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E03B37B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA9543FA3 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:00:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HJ0bNS067263 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:00:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HJ0ZBH067250 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:00:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:00:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302171900.h1HJ0ZBH067250@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [2001/10/31] i386/31671 doc 4.4 installer hangs at " Mounting root fr 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/10/04] i386/14135 doc lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han o [2002/03/06] docs/35620 doc make release fails in documentation for R s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/04/12] docs/37029 doc The translation in Italian language of th o [2002/08/20] docs/41824 doc LANG is not documented in setlocale(3) o [2002/08/22] docs/41892 doc Patch to fix slowdowns of documentation b o [2002/09/01] docs/42292 doc PPP documentation should use quote marks o [2002/09/02] docs/42339 doc Release process doesn't document required o [2002/09/13] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/10/07] docs/43776 doc /etc/sshd_config settings overridden by P o [2002/11/14] docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o [2002/12/15] docs/46286 doc there's an omission and an error in the n 16 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/29] docs/26943 doc [patch] description of :C modifier is mis o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP o [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. o [2001/12/01] docs/32425 doc Document cvs update `P file' output o [2001/12/10] docs/32674 doc no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- o [2002/01/15] misc/33926 doc Search function on website can not access o [2002/02/15] bin/34955 doc [PATCH] ps(1) is out of touch with realit a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/03] docs/35523 doc manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) o [2002/03/05] docs/35575 doc Pw(8) man page makes no mention of /var/l o [2002/03/06] docs/35602 doc dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a o [2002/03/06] docs/35607 doc dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35647 doc www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/07] docs/35649 doc mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot. o [2002/03/07] docs/35652 doc bsd.README seriously obsolete o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers p [2002/03/09] docs/35730 doc mknod(8) page refers to non-existent file o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/12] docs/35823 doc [PATCH] Little Restructuring of the Devel o [2002/03/15] docs/35941 doc cd(4) manual doesn't mention "target" use o [2002/03/15] docs/35942 doc at(1) manual doesn't describe at.allow an o [2002/03/15] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/15] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/18] docs/36055 doc [PATCH] adding some help-yourself-info to o [2002/03/20] misc/36154 doc Getting USB mouse to work: usbd and mouse o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/28] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin o [2002/03/28] docs/36459 doc tftp(1) manual's "get" syntax/description o [2002/03/29] docs/36524 doc bad links on handbook index page o [2002/04/01] docs/36628 doc header an footer of openssl manpages are o [2002/04/03] docs/36724 doc ipnat(5) manpage grammar is incomplete an o [2002/04/18] docs/37221 doc obsolete reference to seqpacket in mount_ o [2002/04/25] docs/37457 doc acpi(4) man page references non-existant o [2002/04/25] docs/37470 doc jail field not documented in procfs(5) o [2002/05/03] docs/37719 doc Detail VOP_ naming in a relevant man-page o [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/11] docs/37952 doc Typos, missing/incorrect accents in Itali o [2002/05/15] docs/38117 doc New FAQ entry for memory states o [2002/05/15] docs/38118 doc New FAQ entry for amount of free memory o [2002/05/18] docs/38225 doc change "CDROM" to "CD-ROM" o [2002/05/22] docs/38426 doc extra manpage .Xr to locate relevant sysc o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/27] docs/38647 doc cvsupit built-in instructions are slightl o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/02] docs/38815 doc Many typo fixed, and a question left unan o [2002/06/02] docs/38817 doc /usr/share/man/man8/boot.8.gz documents / o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/08] docs/39044 doc The man page for rot13(6) never mentions o [2002/06/10] docs/39129 doc handbook; type WRT simulating postscript o [2002/06/12] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/12] docs/39214 doc No my(4) man page o [2002/06/14] docs/39293 doc the dumpon man page incorrectly states th o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/19] docs/39532 doc 'find' man page should o [2002/06/24] docs/39822 doc firewall.7: change "Mbits" to "Mbits/s" a o [2002/06/24] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/04] docs/40196 doc man find does not describe -follow o [2002/07/05] docs/40234 doc Typos and language cleanup in /usr/share/ o [2002/07/07] docs/40313 doc Grammar, wording, and clarifications for o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/10] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/22] docs/40910 doc [PATCH] Typos & grammer fixes for /usr/sh o [2002/07/22] docs/40911 doc [PATCH] Minor improvements for /usr/share o [2002/07/24] docs/40952 doc login.conf should mention that "idletime" o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/07/29] docs/41110 doc "apropos linux" doesn't find brandelf o [2002/07/30] docs/41167 doc adventure.6 man-page, add section AUTHORS o [2002/08/02] docs/41263 doc [PATCH] Clarifications and minor grammer o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/07] docs/41423 doc Update FAQ: attrib command for windows du o [2002/08/12] docs/41578 doc Incorrect #include in the usb(4) manpage o [2002/08/12] docs/41580 doc usb(4) manpage: Structures' fields aren't o [2002/08/18] docs/41761 doc Update for /ru/internal/ part of site o [2002/08/19] docs/41787 doc man page for route (Section 8) missing de o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/19] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) o [2002/08/21] docs/41879 doc cleanup to DOCROOT/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl o [2002/08/22] docs/41919 doc MINI kernel for bootfloppy (Handbook p.34 a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/09/01] docs/42293 doc copystr(9) man page incorrectly describes o [2002/09/01] docs/42312 doc make release broken without full ports o [2002/09/26] docs/43410 doc hardware-i386.html doesn't even mention p o [2002/09/27] docs/43416 doc pw(8) -u uidmin,uidmax feature is out of o [2002/10/01] docs/43569 doc src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-dat o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page f [2002/10/09] docs/43864 doc Minor documentation to add o [2002/10/10] docs/43899 doc incorrect info in man page for fetch (8) o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/14] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/18] docs/44217 doc Problematic PDF version of handbook for 4 o [2002/10/19] docs/44296 doc Contributors page refers to History secti o [2002/10/21] docs/44337 doc [PATCH] netstat(1) manual references none o [2002/10/23] docs/44400 doc ipfw(8) has contradictions in bridged and o [2002/10/24] docs/44435 doc sysctl manpage: add example for tcsh o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/11/14] docs/45294 doc LINT notes are murky re PQ_CACHESIZE sett o [2002/11/17] docs/45371 doc man page for exports lacks information on o [2002/11/25] docs/45702 doc Error in manual page ssh_config(5) o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46181 doc "make fetch-recursive" target description o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/11] docs/46200 doc fix for ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/porters-handbo o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/02] docs/46709 doc tables in terminfo.5 are broken o [2003/01/05] docs/46793 doc DEVICE_POLLING can not be used with SMP, o [2003/01/09] docs/46919 doc setkey(8) references the wrong RFC for ES o [2003/01/14] docs/47085 doc boot(8) manpage is incomplete according t o [2003/01/27] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allow o [2003/01/30] docs/47690 doc builtin(1) manpage is wrong about externa o [2003/01/30] docs/47705 doc wc(1) manpage has poor explanations. o [2003/02/01] docs/47792 doc www/news/news.xml translated to .de f [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing o [2003/02/02] docs/47824 doc auto-create plist chapter should mention o [2003/02/05] docs/47991 doc Handbook section on upgrading kernel says o [2003/02/06] docs/48018 doc telnetd(8) manpage appears incorrect rega o [2003/02/07] docs/48038 doc [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into o [2003/02/08] docs/48083 doc [PATCH] missing #include in manpage for i o [2003/02/08] docs/48097 doc Manual for camediaplay(1) falsely describ o [2003/02/08] docs/48101 doc There's no documentation on the fixit dis o [2003/02/08] docs/48104 doc disktab(1) manpage omits b0 and b1, etc. o [2003/02/09] docs/48125 doc [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro( o [2003/02/12] docs/48210 doc make -q only does what the manpage says i o [2003/02/14] docs/48277 doc send-pr man page does not mention MAIL_AG o [2003/02/14] docs/48278 doc inconsistent between reference link and i o [2003/02/16] docs/48324 doc jail(8) manpage outdated o [2003/02/17] docs/48371 doc Small update to developers-handbook... 156 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 11:50:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D2A37B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:50:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E816843FCB for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:50:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HJoBNS083806 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:50:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HJoBUD083805; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:50:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:50:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302171950.h1HJoBUD083805@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: docs/48371: Small update to developers-handbook... Reply-To: Ceri Davies Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48371; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri Davies To: Sean Chittenden Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48371: Small update to developers-handbook... Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:48:18 +0000 On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 03:56:04AM -0800, Sean Chittenden wrote: > Few small bits in this: > > 1) Update for the .emacs example to add highlighting of whitespace. Looks fine, though I am not an emacs user. > 2) Nuked whitespace that I noticed. Cool. > 3) Ran a spell checker over the doc and Americanized some very common > American English words (intepreted -> interpreted, > optimise -> optimize ). Those words are seen frequently enough that > non-American and non-Brittish folks may stumble over their non- > American English spellings so I corrected them. Good - thanks. > Honestly, I'm only really interested in #1, but #2 and #3 kinda came > for free during the update. Any preferences on how I should commit > this? (#1 + #3), then #2? ::shrug:: Exactly that. Sorry, it can be a pain. Ceri -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 12:10:32 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8685137B401; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1942B43FA3; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:10:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from seanc@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (seanc@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HKAUNS092021; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:10:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from seanc@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from seanc@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HKAUV2092017; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:10:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:10:30 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Chittenden Message-Id: <200302172010.h1HKAUV2092017@freefall.freebsd.org> To: seanc@freebsd.org, seanc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48371: Small update to developers-handbook... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Small update to developers-handbook... State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: seanc State-Changed-When: Mon Feb 17 12:08:05 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed in two parts as stated, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=48371 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 12:40:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48DA37B401; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:40:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (as1-2-8.mal.s.bonet.se [194.236.4.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FA143FB1; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:40:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from per@hedeland.org) Received: from pluto.hedeland.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pluto.hedeland.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HKetiw004967; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:40:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from per@pluto.hedeland.org) Received: (from per@localhost) by pluto.hedeland.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HKetTu004966; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:40:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:40:55 +0100 (CET) From: Per Hedeland Message-Id: <200302172040.h1HKetTu004966@pluto.hedeland.org> To: trhodes@FreeBSD.org Cc: bde@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, grog@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48125: [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro(2) In-Reply-To: <20030216174334.2cf7984a.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I think this issue taking on rather bigger proportions than it really merits, but anyway... Tom Rhodes wrote: >Per Hedeland wrote: >> but I must really strongly disagree with your suggestion to change >> the code! The output of programs should not be changed for such >> "frivolous" reasons - e.g. there may well be scripts etc out there >> that, however unwisely, rely on the exact format of error messages to >> function correctly. Not to mention that using contractions in error >> messages is a long-standing Unix tradition, even in cases where the >> message doesn't originate in sys_errlist. > >however to my knowledge when Bell Labs originally started producing >UNIX the code was actually changed to match the documentation in many >instances. People with more knowledge of UNIX history would be better >to ask about that, though. I just remember reading something like that, >Bruce Evans (bde) or Greg Lehey (grog) come to mind as the correct >people >to ask. Whether correct or not, I don't really see the relevance of that. Of course I didn't suggest that code must *never* be changed to match documentation, only that code changes that may actually break things should not be done just to match someone's idea of "good writing style" for the man page. On the other hand, in this particular case the FreeBSD (or *BSD, I don't have another dialect to test) code might actually be a bit out-of-sync with the rest of the Unix family. A survey of two other Unices isn't exactly conclusive, and there's nothing to say that FreeBSD must be like everyone else, but anyway: Solaris 8: $ ./a.out bind: Cannot assign requested address RedHat 7.3: $ ./a.out bind: Cannot assign requested address FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE: $ ./a.out bind: Can't assign requested address The same difference exists for the other messages that are contractions in the FreeBSD sys_errlist[]. And with that "contribution" I will respectfully leave this discussion, letting the committers sort out what should be changed where and why. --Per To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 12:50: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A2D37B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B9C43FAF for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HKo2NS013360 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HKo2KS013353; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:50:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302172050.h1HKo2KS013353@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Per Hedeland Subject: Re: docs/48125: [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro(2) Reply-To: Per Hedeland Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48125; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Per Hedeland To: trhodes@FreeBSD.org Cc: bde@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, grog@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48125: [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro(2) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:40:55 +0100 (CET) Well, I think this issue taking on rather bigger proportions than it really merits, but anyway... Tom Rhodes wrote: >Per Hedeland wrote: >> but I must really strongly disagree with your suggestion to change >> the code! The output of programs should not be changed for such >> "frivolous" reasons - e.g. there may well be scripts etc out there >> that, however unwisely, rely on the exact format of error messages to >> function correctly. Not to mention that using contractions in error >> messages is a long-standing Unix tradition, even in cases where the >> message doesn't originate in sys_errlist. > >however to my knowledge when Bell Labs originally started producing >UNIX the code was actually changed to match the documentation in many >instances. People with more knowledge of UNIX history would be better >to ask about that, though. I just remember reading something like that, >Bruce Evans (bde) or Greg Lehey (grog) come to mind as the correct >people >to ask. Whether correct or not, I don't really see the relevance of that. Of course I didn't suggest that code must *never* be changed to match documentation, only that code changes that may actually break things should not be done just to match someone's idea of "good writing style" for the man page. On the other hand, in this particular case the FreeBSD (or *BSD, I don't have another dialect to test) code might actually be a bit out-of-sync with the rest of the Unix family. A survey of two other Unices isn't exactly conclusive, and there's nothing to say that FreeBSD must be like everyone else, but anyway: Solaris 8: $ ./a.out bind: Cannot assign requested address RedHat 7.3: $ ./a.out bind: Cannot assign requested address FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE: $ ./a.out bind: Can't assign requested address The same difference exists for the other messages that are contractions in the FreeBSD sys_errlist[]. And with that "contribution" I will respectfully leave this discussion, letting the committers sort out what should be changed where and why. --Per To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 13:10: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE0137B406 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7936343FA3 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:10:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HLA6NS026930 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:10:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HLA62a026929; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:10:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:10:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302172110.h1HLA62a026929@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: docs/48125: [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro(2) Reply-To: Ceri Davies Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48125; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri Davies To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/48125: [PATCH] Incorrect errno strings in intro(2) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:01:04 +0000 Adding to audit trail from pending/48348: Message-Id: <20030216233702.GB37125@wantadilla.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:07:02 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Per Hedeland , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Bruce Evans On Sunday, 16 February 2003 at 17:43:34 -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:30:16 -0800 (PST) > Per Hedeland wrote: > >> However, regarding the contractions: I can see where you're coming >> from, since I gather that using them in "formal" documents is frowned >> upon - > > True, > >> but I must really strongly disagree with your suggestion to change >> the code! The output of programs should not be changed for such >> "frivolous" reasons - e.g. there may well be scripts etc out there >> that, however unwisely, rely on the exact format of error messages to >> function correctly. Not to mention that using contractions in error >> messages is a long-standing Unix tradition, even in cases where the >> message doesn't originate in sys_errlist. > > however to my knowledge when Bell Labs originally started producing > UNIX the code was actually changed to match the documentation in > many instances. People with more knowledge of UNIX history would be > better to ask about that, though. I just remember reading something > like that, Bruce Evans (bde) or Greg Lehey (grog) come to mind as > the correct people to ask. This seems unlikely. The same people wrote the code and the docco; it's unlikely that changes in the docco would make it out of sync with the code base. It's possible, of course, that they occasionally wrote docco changes first with the intention to change the code, and then did it, but I don't suppose that's what you're talking about. >> I'd suggest that either you consider these strings to not be part of >> the actual "document text" (which would be correct I think), and >> thereby exempt from considerations of "good writing style" - or if >> that isn't acceptable, leave the "Cannot"s in the man page and the >> "Can't"s in the code - this discrepancy shouldn't matter *too* much >> to the reader, who is unlikely to be searching the man page for >> "Can't" anyway... > > To the best of my knowledge, use of contractions is frowned upon in > FreeBSD. Again, this is an issue to take up with the respected parties. > I've taken the liberty to cc: them for input. Ideas? I don't know about the project, but I frown on some contractions and not others. In general, if the contraction is used in normal speech ("can't") I'd think it's OK. If it isn't ("cont'd"), I'd disagree with its use. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 13:30:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A1C37B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:30:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3202543FAF for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:30:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a072.otenet.gr [212.205.215.72]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HLUOpU005300; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:30:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1HLUIdC014296; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:30:18 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1HLQOO2012551; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:26:24 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:26:24 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Peter Pentchev Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFR] Add a warning about the ports-base CVSup subcollection Message-ID: <20030217212624.GA2014@gothmog.gr> References: <20030217142959.GL377@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030217142959.GL377@straylight.oblivion.bg> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-02-17 16:29, Peter Pentchev wrote: > This is something that has popped up every so often on the mailing > lists, [...] Great idea! :) > + will fail with some mysterious error message. The > + very first thing to do in this > + case is to make sure that your > + ports-base subcollection is up to > + date. > + > + Lots of eol whitespace at the last added line above. I usually try to avoid adding lines with whitespace at the end of one or more lines. > + > + > + > [...] Some lines use 8 spaces instead of tab characters for indentation, but I can't really see anything gravely wrong about the changes. Commit it, please. Giorgos. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 13:40: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B927637B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B75F43FA3 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1HLe7NS034136 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1HLe7Ra034130; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:40:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:40:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302172140.h1HLe7Ra034130@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/48371: Small update to developers-handbook... Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48371; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Sean Chittenden Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/48371: Small update to developers-handbook... Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:13:52 +0200 On 2003-02-17 03:56, Sean Chittenden wrote: > Few small bits in this: > > 1) Update for the .emacs example to add highlighting of whitespace. > 2) Nuked whitespace that I noticed. > 3) Ran a spell checker over the doc and Americanized some very common > American English words (intepreted -> interpreted, > optimise -> optimize ). Those words are seen frequently enough that > non-American and non-Brittish folks may stumble over their non- > American English spellings so I corrected them. > > Honestly, I'm only really interested in #1, but #2 and #3 kinda came > for free during the update. Any preferences on how I should commit > this? (#1 + #3), then #2? ::shrug:: #2 should definitely be done in a separate commit. #1 and #3 are obviously unrelated to each other, so there... you need 3 commits :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 16:46:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CA437B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from bgp492363bgs.verona01.nj.comcast.net (bgp492363bgs.verona01.nj.comcast.net [68.37.205.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE97C43F75 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:46:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ewhmz@nm.ru) From: arhipov To: Doc Reply-To: inkorpiar@seznam.cz Subject: ïðèãëàøàåì âàñ Doc, ïðèíÿòü ó÷àñòèå â ïðîãðàììå: #4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030218004640.EE97C43F75@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:46:40 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Òðåíèíã ýôôåêòèâíûõ äåëîâûõ ìåæëè÷íîñòíûõ êîììóíèêàöèé

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Stop *** Error code 1 (ignored) *** Error code 2 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 211.66 real 153.99 user 34.17 sys To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 17:43:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF9537B406 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gso163-12-082.triad.rr.com (gso163-12-082.triad.rr.com [24.163.12.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C784543F75 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:43:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fndeu@mail.com) From: arhipov To: Freebsd-doc Reply-To: inkorpiar@seznam.cz Subject: ïðèãëàøàåì âàñ Freebsd-doc, ïðèíÿòü ó÷àñòèå â ïðîãðàììå: #9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030218014310.C784543F75@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:43:10 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Òðåíèíã ýôôåêòèâíûõ äåëîâûõ ìåæëè÷íîñòíûõ êîììóíèêàöèé

Èíñòèòóò êîðïîðàòèâíûõ ïàáëèê ðèëåéøíç (ÈÍÊÎÐÏÈÀÐ) ïðèãëàøàåò ïðèíÿòü ó÷àñòèå â ïðîãðàììå:

Òðåíèíã ýôôåêòèâíûõ äåëîâûõ ìåæëè÷íîñòíûõ êîììóíèêàöèé.

Öåëü òðåíèíãà:
ïîâûñèòü ýôôåêòèâíîñòü äåëîâûõ êîíòàêòîâ

Çàäà÷è òðåíèíãà:

  • èçó÷èòü çàêîíîìåðíîñòè äåëîâîãî îáùåíèÿ;
  • íàó÷èòüñÿ ïðàâèëüíî âîñïðèíèìàòü ñîáåñåäíèêà: ïîíèìàòü òî, ÷òî îí «ãîâîðèò» è «íå ãîâîðèò»;
  • îñâîèòü íàâûêè áûñòðîé äèàãíîñòèêè ñèòóàöèè è âûáîðà îïòèìàëüíîé ñòðàòåãèè ïîâåäåíèÿ;
  • íàó÷èòüñÿ ïðàâèëüíî âîñïðèíèìàòü è ïîäàâàòü èíôîðìàöèþ;
  • îâëàäåòü ïðàêòè÷åñêèìè íàâûêàìè óáåæäåíèÿ è ìåòîäàìè âëèÿíèÿ;
  • îçíàêîìèòüñÿ ñ ïðèíöèïàìè ìàíèïóëÿòèâíûõ òåõíèê è îñâîèòü íàâûêè ïðîòèâîñòîÿíèÿ èì;
  • íàó÷èòüñÿ íå òîëüêî èçáåãàòü, íî è ïðîäóêòèâíî èñïîëüçîâàòü êîíôëèêòû;
  • îâëàäåòü íàâûêàìè êîíñòðóêòèâíîãî ïîâåäåíèÿ â ñòðåññîâûõ ñèòóàöèÿõ;
  • îñâîèòü ñòðàòåãèè ïîâåäåíèÿ â óñëîâèÿõ äåôèöèòà èíôîðìàöèè.

Ïëàíèðóåìûå ðåçóëüòàòû:

  • êîìïåòåíòíîñòü â çàêîíàõ äåëîâîé êîììóíèêàöèè;

  • äîñòèæåíèå ìàêñèìàëüíîãî ðåçóëüòàòà â ïåðåãîâîðíîì ïðîöåññå;

  • óâåðåííîå ïîâåäåíèå â ðàçëè÷íûõ ñèòóàöèÿõ îáùåíèÿ;

  • ñïîñîáíîñòü áûñòðî íàõîäèòü îïòèìàëüíûå ðåøåíèÿ;

  • óìåíèå àíàëèçèðîâàòü è èñïîëüçîâàòü ïîëó÷åííûé îïûò.

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ýôôåêòèâíûõ äåëîâûõ ìåæëè÷íîñòíûõ êîììóíèêàöèé

  • Îáùåå ïðåäñòàâëåíèå î ñòðóêòóðå ïðîöåññà ýôôåêòèâíîé êîììóíèêàöèè

  • Îïðåäåëåíèå êà÷åñòâ, íåîáõîäèìûõ óñïåøíîìó êîììóíèêàòîðó

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  • ×óâñòâèòåëüíîñòü ê ñîáåñåäíèêó è åãî ïñèõè÷åñêîìó ñîñòîÿíèþ

  • Ãèáêîñòü è ðàçíîîáðàçèå â âûáîðå ñòðàòåãèè îáùåíèÿ ñ íèì

  • Ôîðìèðîâàíèå è ðàçâèòèå íàâûêîâ ïðàêòè÷åñêîãî èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ÷óâñòâèòåëüíîñòè è ãèáêîñòè

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  • Îçíàêîìëåíèå ñ ýòàïàìè äåëîâîé êîììóíèêàöèè, îñîáåííîñòÿìè êàæäîãî ýòàïà è ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèìè ýôôåêòèâíûìè ñòðàòåãèÿìè ïîâåäåíèÿ

  • Ôîðìèðîâàíèå è ðàçâèòèå íàâûêîâ óñïåøíîé êîììóíèêàöèè íà íà÷àëüíûõ ýòàïàõ îáùåíèÿ («ïðèñîåäèíåíèå» - óñòàíîâëåíèå äîâåðèòåëüíîé ýìîöèîíàëüíîé àòìîñôåðû, âûÿâëåíèå ïîçèöèé, öåííîñòåé è íàèáîëåå çíà÷èìûõ ïîòðåáíîñòåé ñîáåñåäíèêà)

  • Ôîðìèðîâàíèå è ðàçâèòèå íàâûêîâ «ñîïðîâîæäåíèÿ» ñîáåñåäíèêà â åãî ñòðóêòóðå ïîòðåáíîñòåé è öåííîñòåé. Çàêðåïëåíèå è ïîääåðæàíèå äîâåðèòåëüíîé ýìîöèîíàëüíîé àòìîñôåðû (óäåðæàíèå ðàïïîðòà)

  • Îñâîåíèå óìåíèé «âåäåíèÿ» êëèåíòà (êîððåêöèÿ åãî óáåæäåíèé ñ ó÷åòîì Âàøèõ èíòåðåñîâ)

  • Ðàáîòà ñ ñîìíåíèÿìè è âîçðàæåíèÿìè

  • Ïðèíöèïû âçàèìîäåéñòâèÿ â îñòðûõ êîíôëèêòíûõ ñèòóàöèÿõ

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 19:50: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291DA37B405 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3B543FAF for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1I3o3NS034456 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1I3o3wd034455; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAF337B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8722843F85 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:46:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Received: from pittgoth.com (localhost.pittgoth.com [127.0.0.1]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1I3knfI044607 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:46:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Received: (from darklogik@localhost) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1I3knhV044606; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:46:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302180346.h1I3knhV044606@pittgoth.com> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:46:49 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/48407: PPP section needs a cleanup. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48407 >Category: docs >Synopsis: PPP section needs a cleanup. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Feb 17 19:50:03 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Tom Rhodes >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD pittgoth.com 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #1: Tue Feb 4 21:41:58 EST 2003 root@pittgoth.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PITTGOTH i386 >Description: The PPP section in the handbook needs some cleaning. There is alot of good and useful information availible, just you need to weed through a lot of `unneeded' information. >How-To-Repeat: Set up a ppp connection (which I have not done in awhile, just did, and read over the section). >Fix: Perhaps an overhaul. Move some of the manual connection information I added toward the bottom and name it `debugging' and perhaps clean up a few of the other paragraphs. From what I noticed, some ISP's offer information regarding `script connections' which was what I used for my girlfriend's laptop, perhaps this should be mentioned. The ppp.conf file needs a slight update. Perhaps the first part could be a walkthrough, and then put other options toward the middle of the document, and debugging at the bottom. I lack the time to do this myself. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Feb 17 22:50: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD63C37B401 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E59543FBF for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:50:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1I6o4NS081329 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:50:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1I6o4Oh081328; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:50:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:50:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302180650.h1I6o4Oh081328@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Tom Hukins Subject: Re: docs/48366: Update to Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD... Reply-To: Tom Hukins Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48366; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Hukins To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/48366: Update to Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD... Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 06:49:40 +0000 I have a few comments on what looks like a useful patch: On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 02:47:47AM -0800, Sean Chittenden wrote: > + Enables the new version of IPFW. > + Only do this if you're running FreeBSD 4.X, > + this is the default in newer versions of > + FreeBSD. These a re two separate clauses, so a semicolon or full stop would be more appropriate after "4.X". > - If so, you will need to specifically disable > + If so, you will need to specifically disable In addition, s/will need/need/. > - The ruleset for the firewall > + The rule set for the firewall I notice we use "ruleset" and "rule set" inconsistently through doc and www - I agree that we should prefer "rule set". Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Feb 18 8:40: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF91C37B401 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2A143FD7 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1IGe3NS007144 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1IGe3DY007143; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D98237B401 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from anholt.dyndns.org (copeland-30-191.lclark.edu [149.175.30.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8E943F85 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:31:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@anholt.dyndns.org) Received: from leguin.anholt.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leguin.anholt.dyndns.org (8.12.7/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1I3SUmw042935 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:28:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anholt@leguin.anholt.dyndns.org) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by leguin.anholt.dyndns.org (8.12.7/8.12.6/Submit) id h1I3SOFd042934; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:28:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302180328.h1I3SOFd042934@leguin.anholt.dyndns.org> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:28:25 -0800 (PST) From: anholt@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: anholt@FreeBSD.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/48427: Missing listitem/para in ISA chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48427 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Missing listitem/para in ISA chapter >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Feb 18 08:40:03 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: anholt@freebsd.org >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD leguin.anholt.dyndns.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #8: Thu Feb 13 23:09:47 PST 2003 anholt@leguin.anholt.dyndns.org:/usr/src/current/sys/i386/compile/MYKERNEL i386 >Description: The description of the "parent" and "alignment" args to bus_dma_tag_create in the ISA chapter of the developers handbook appear in the same list entry when they shouldn't. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- isadiff begins here --- Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/isa/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/isa/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 chapter.sgml --- en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/isa/chapter.sgml 12 Jan 2003 18:31:38 -0000 1.14 +++ en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/isa/chapter.sgml 13 Feb 2003 20:26:04 -0000 @@ -791,7 +791,11 @@ parent - parent tag, or NULL to - create a top-level tag alignment - + create a top-level tag. + + + + alignment - required physical alignment of the memory area to be allocated for this tag. Use value 1 for no specific alignment. Applies only to the future --- isadiff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Feb 18 10:27:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1931037B401; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE8543F85; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:27:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1IIRaNS036992; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:27:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1IIRaSQ036988; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:27:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:27:36 -0800 (PST) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200302181827.h1IIRaSQ036988@freefall.freebsd.org> To: anholt@freebsd.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48427: Missing listitem/para in ISA chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Missing listitem/para in ISA chapter State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Tue Feb 18 10:27:10 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed in r1.15. 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Åñëè èíôîðìàöèÿ ïîäîáíîãî ðîäà Âàñ íå èíòåðåñóåò è ïî äðóãèì âîïðîñàì - ïèøèòå: seminar

Ó÷åáíûé Öåíòð ïðèãëàøàåò íà òðåíèíã:
“Âåäåíèå äåëîâûõ ïåðåãîâîðîâ ñ VIP-êëèåíòàìè: ðå÷åâûå àñïåêòû”
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Òðåíèíã ïðåäíàçíà÷åí äëÿ top-ìåíåäæåðîâ, ìåíåäæåðîâ, âåäóùèõ ïðåäñòàâèòåëüñêèå ïåðåãîâîðû

Òðåíåð: Êîëòóíîâà Ì.Â. – êàíäèäàò ôèëîëîãè÷åñêèõ íàóê, äîêòîðàíò Èíñòèòóòà ðóññêîãî ÿçûêà èì. À.Ñ. Ïóøêèíà. Íåçàâèñèìûé êîíñóëüòàíò-ýêñïåðò ïî âîïðîñàì äîêóìåíòàëèñòèêè, ïðåïîäàâàòåëü ÀÍÕ ïðè Ïðàâèòåëüñòâå ÐÔ. Àâòîð êíèã: “Äåëîâîå ïèñüìî: ÷òî íóæíî çíàòü ñîñòàâèòåëþ”, “ßçûê è äåëîâîå îáùåíèå. Íîðìû. Ðèòîðèêà. Ýòèêåò”. Àâòîð ðÿäà ñòàòåé ïî ïðîáëåìàì áèçíåñ-êîììóíèêàöèé.

Öåëè òðåíèíãà:
  • îçíàêîìèòüñÿ ñî ñïåöèôèêîé âçàèìîäåéñòâèÿ ñ VIP–êëèåíòàìè;

  • ïîëó÷èòü ïðàêòè÷åñêèå íàâûêè âåäåíèÿ äåëîâûõ ïåðåãîâîðîâ è äåëîâîé ïåðåïèñêè ñ VIP–êëèåíòàìè;

  • îâëàäåòü îñíîâíûìè íàâûêàìè ïóáëè÷íîãî âûñòóïëåíèÿ;

  • ïîäãîòîâêà ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûõ ïåðåãîâîðùèêîâ â ñèñòåìå VIP-îáùåíèÿ.
    • Ñîäåðæàíèå ïðîãðàììû:
    1. Ñîöèàëüíî-ñòàòóñíûå õàðàêòåðèñòèêè VIP-ïåðñîí, îòðàæàþùèåñÿ â ýòèêåòíîì îáùåíèè:

    1. Ñèñòåìà îáùåíèÿ: â ÷åì îñíîâíûå îòëè÷èÿ ìåæäó ïèñüìåííîé è óñòíîé ðå÷üþ?  ÷åì ñïåöèôèêà îôèöèàëüíîãî è íåîôèöèàëüíîãî îáùåíèÿ? ×òî âàæíî çíàòü î ïðàâèëàõ îáùåíèÿ íà ïðèåìàõ, ðàóòàõ, ïðåçåíòàöèÿõ?

    2. Ñîöèàëüíàÿ äèñòàíöèÿ è ýòèêåòíàÿ ìîäóëÿöèÿ ðå÷è. Êàê ïðàâèëüíî âûáðàòü äèñòàíöèþ, îáùàÿñü ñ VIP–êëèåíòàìè? Êàê óäåðæàòü ïîçèöèþ “îáùåíèå íà ðàâíûõ”? Êàê ãðàìîòíî èçìåíÿòü ñâîþ ðå÷ü ïðè èçìåíåíèè ñèòóàöèè îáùåíèÿ?

    3. Ðàçëè÷èÿ ïî ïðèçíàêó ïîëà è âîçðàñòà â çåðêàëå ýòèêåòà.

    2. ÂÝÄ è êðîññ-êóëüòóðíûå êîììóíèêàöèè â ðåæèìå VIP-îáùåíèÿ:

    1. Åâðîïåéñêèå òðàäèöèè è íàöèîíàëüíûå îñîáåííîñòè VIP-îáùåíèÿ;

    2. Âîñòî÷íûå ñèñòåìû ýòèêåòà è ðåàëüíîå îòðàæåíèå â íèõ ñîöèàëüíîãî ñòàòóñà.

    3. Ïîäãîòîâêà è ïðîâåäåíèå äåëîâûõ ïåðåãîâîðîâ:

    1. Èíñòðóìåíòû âîçäåéñòâèÿ íà àäðåñàòà. Êàê áûòü óáåäèòåëüíûì? Êàê äîáèâàòüñÿ ïîñòàâëåííûõ öåëåé? Êàê óïðàâëÿòü äèàëîãîì?

    2. Îñîáåííîñòè ïèñüìåííîé êîììóíèêàöèè â ñèñòåìå VIP-îáùåíèÿ. ×òî íóæíî çíàòü, ñîñòàâëÿÿ äåëîâîå ïèñüìî? ×òî íåîáõîäèìî çíàòü, ïîäïèñûâàÿ êîíòðàêò? Êàê èçáåæàòü íå÷èñòîïëîòíîé èãðû?

    3. Îñîáåííîñòè óñòíîé êîììóíèêàöèè â ñèñòåìå VIP-îáùåíèÿ. Êàê âûáðàòü âåðíóþ ñòðàòåãèþ âåäåíèÿ äåëîâûõ ïåðåãîâîðîâ, ó÷èòûâàÿ ñïåöèôèêó VIP-êëèåíòîâ?

    4. Ïóáëè÷íîå âûñòóïëåíèå: ñòðàòåãèè è òàêòèêè.  ÷åì îñîáåííîñòè âûñòóïëåíèÿ ïåðåä ïóáëèêîé? Êàê ãðàìîòíî ïîäãîòîâèòü âûñòóïëåíèå? Êàê ïðîèçâåñòè âïå÷àòëåíèå íà ñëóøàòåëÿ?

     çàâåðøåíèè ïðîãðàììû ó÷àñòíèêè ñìîãóò:
    1. Îâëàäåòü íåîáõîäèìûìè íàâûêàìè îáùåíèÿ ñ VIP-êëèåíòàìè;
    2. Ïðèìåíÿòü ïîëó÷åííûå çíàíèÿ â ïðàêòèêå îáùåíèÿ ñ VIP-êëèåíòàìè.

     õîäå òðåíèíãà èñïîëüçóåòñÿ ñïðàâî÷íûé ìàòåðèàë. Ïî îêîí÷àíèè âûäàåòñÿ ñåðòèôèêàò.
    Ïðîäîëæèòåëüíîñòü: 1 äåíü, 10-00 -18-00.(äâà ïåðåðûâà, îáåä)
    Ñòîèìîñòü ó÷àñòèÿ: 3500 ðóáëåé áåç ÍÄÑ.
    Òåë.: 921-5862, 928-4156, 928-4200, 928-5321

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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:42:16 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm confused in the handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/smtp-auth.html 20.7 SMTP Authentication ...... 3. Now edit /etc/make.conf and add the following lines: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl1 -DSASL SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl I do not have /etc/make.conf :( and it doesnot look like appropriate file in this place 8( Thanks. Dmitriy Fitisov. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Feb 18 19:51:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF6737B401 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:51:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from nyogtha.unknownkadath.net (nyogtha.unknownkadath.net [209.153.153.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8D343F93 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 19:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asenchi@asenchi.com) Received: from pale (12-245-211-155.client.attbi.com [12.245.211.155]) by nyogtha.unknownkadath.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h1J46DfX074125; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:06:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Asenchi" To: "Dmitriy Fitisov" , Subject: RE: error in doc? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:51:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You will need to create a make.conf file. This is generally stored in /etc as it is the config file for /etc/defaults/make.conf. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Feb 18 23:29:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7911837B401 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF54A43FAF for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:29:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@straylight.ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 27995 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2003 07:25:38 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 19 Feb 2003 07:25:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 19543 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Feb 2003 07:28:40 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:24:55 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFR] Add a warning about the ports-base CVSup subcollection Message-ID: <20030219072455.GB15631@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Giorgos Keramidas , doc@freebsd.org References: <20030217142959.GL377@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030217212624.GA2014@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030217212624.GA2014@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 11:26:24PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2003-02-17 16:29, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > This is something that has popped up every so often on the mailing > > lists, [...] >=20 > Great idea! :) >=20 > > + will fail with some mysterious error message. The > > + very first thing to do in this > > + case is to make sure that your > > + ports-base subcollection is up to > > + date.     > > + > > + >=20 > Lots of eol whitespace at the last added line above. I usually try to > avoid adding lines with whitespace at the end of one or more lines. Grrr. I checked, honest! Just why did I have to make Yet Another Minor Change(tm) before sending, though... > > + > > + > > + > > [...] >=20 > Some lines use 8 spaces instead of tab characters for indentation, but Just one line, dammit :) I do check for this, too :) But still, thanks a lot for pointing those two out! > I can't really see anything gravely wrong about the changes. Commit > it, please. I just did. Thanks for the review! G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 If there were no counterfactuals, this sentence would not have been paradox= ical. --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+UzFH7Ri2jRYZRVMRAk4lAJ9kO03mgxxSgZ8ro1cTu4rhzivkYQCggqwo 37VyDz54s2jKcp+/lgRdyo4= =S0+e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 3: 4:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF0D37B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 03:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from 151-5-255.cmts03.ksle.everestkc.net (151-5-255.cmts03.ksle.everestkc.net [64.151.5.255]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7FD9D43F75 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 03:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from visa.konkort@GIN.RU) From: Êîìïàíèÿ «Âèçà Êîíêîðä» To: Faq Subject: Âûñòàâêè, ÿðìàðêè Ãåðìàíèÿ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030219110407.7FD9D43F75@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 03:04:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 4:14:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C2C37B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 04:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from angelo.kcl.ac.uk (angelo.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.66.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA7343F3F for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 04:14:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dev.dhas@kcl.ac.uk) Received: from ctr-Dev.kcl.ac.uk (EE077.eee.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.10.124]) by angelo.kcl.ac.uk with ESMTP id h1JBwGe2007474 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:58:19 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030219120538.00a8ef58@pop2.kcl.ac.uk> X-Sender: kkqd2740@pop2.kcl.ac.uk Disposition-Notification-To: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:06:19 +0000 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Audsin Subject: changes in tcp6_output.c and tcp6_input.c Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Respected Sir I have made some changes to the /usr/kame/kame/kame/sys/netinet6/tcp6_input.c and /usr/kame/kame/kame/netinet6/sys/tcp6_output.c in FreeBSD 4.4 and iam using Kame snap. I have some queries regarding making the changes active. Can anyone please tell me the procedure to recompile or reconfigure the kernel so that the changes come into effect I would be grateful to you, if you could let me know these questions Thanks for the help and sorry for the disturbance. Best Regards Dev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 4:34:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F8837B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 04:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from aj17.netikka.fi (aj17.netikka.fi [213.250.71.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D88643F75 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 04:34:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from apr-vest.2003@microdin.ru) From: ÀÏÐ «ÂÅÑÒÜ» To: Faq Subject: Ïîíòîâûå Ðàññûëêè MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030219123427.7D88643F75@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 04:34:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ïðàéñ Àâãóñò

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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 6:10:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF3237B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 06:10:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from angelo.kcl.ac.uk (angelo.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.66.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081D643F93 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 06:10:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dev.dhas@kcl.ac.uk) Received: from ctr-Dev.kcl.ac.uk (EE077.eee.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.10.124]) by angelo.kcl.ac.uk with ESMTP id h1JDWDe2028338 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:32:15 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030219133923.00af5d18@pop2.kcl.ac.uk> X-Sender: kkqd2740@pop2.kcl.ac.uk Disposition-Notification-To: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:40:16 +0000 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: Audsin Subject: packet length 1284 instead of 1280 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sir / Madam I am doing my research on fragmentation avoidance technique for mip6. I am using FreeBSD4.4 with kame snap and ethereal to capture packets I have a query regarding the packet length If i am correct , packet length = IPHdr +extHdr+TCPHdr+TCPOpt+Data =IPHdr+Routing Header + Frag Header + TCP Header+ Tcpopt+ Data 40+24+8+20+12+1176=1280 (Which is the MTU of the gif0 interface) But my ethereal capture says the packet length to be 1284 btyes. Can anyone please let me know what that 4 bytes is accounted for? With this mail, i am pasting a capture packet of my experiment Frame 973 (1284 on wire 1284 captured) Arrival Time: Dec 6 2002 39:54.8 Time delta from previous packet: 0.000052 seconds Time relative to first packet: 97.69262 seconds Frame Number: 973 Packet Length: 1284 bytes Capture Length: 1284 bytes Null/Loopback Family: IPv6 (0x0000001c) Internet Protocol Version 6 Version: 6 Traffic class: 0x00 Flowlabel: 0x6017f Payload length: 1240 Next header: IPv6 routing (0x2b) Hop limit: 64 Source address: 2001:618:400::8949:b94 (2001:618:400::8949:b94) Destination address: 3ffe:400b:6004:3:200:39ff:fe11:f32 (3ffe:400b:6004:3:200:39ff:fe11:f32) Routing Header Type 0 Next header: IPv6 fragment (0x2c) Length: 2 (24 bytes) Type: 0 Segments left: 1 address 0:00 3ffe:327e:2:1:200:39ff:fe11:f32 (3ffe:327e:2:1:200:39ff:fe11:f32) Fragmention Header Next header: TCP (0x06) Offset: 0 More fragments: Yes Identification: 0xef9a0000 Transmission Control Protocol Src Port: 49165 -49165 Dst Port: iad2 -1031 Seq: 2.68E+09 Ack: 1.12E+09 Source port: 49165 -49165 Destination port: iad2 -1031 Sequence number: 2.68E+09 Next sequence number: 2.68E+09 Acknowledgement number: 1.12E+09 Header length: 32 bytes Flags: 0x0010 (ACK) 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduced (CWR): Not set .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set ...1 .... = Acknowledgment: Set .... 0... = Push: Not set .... .0.. = Reset: Not set .... ..0. = Syn: Not set .... ...0 = Fin: Not set Window size: 16912 Checksum: 0x7783 Options: (12 bytes) NOP NOP Time stamp: tsval 1931258 tsecr 159233 Data (1176 bytes) Here the packet length is 1284 instead of 1280. Can anyone please explain me the situation . Is it because of any header or something else. Best Regards Dev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 8: 7:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A001337B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:07:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-19-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDEF43FAF for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:07:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1JG6oaw032750; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:06:50 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1JG6nm0065959; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:06:49 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1JG6mqA065958; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:06:48 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:06:48 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Hiroki Sato Cc: des@ofug.org, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: piecemeal articles Message-ID: <20030219160648.GD6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20030204201507.GA86389@nathan.ruhr.de> <20030205.053129.78764236.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030205.053129.78764236.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 05:31:29AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > I do not know why splitted html version is by default, but it is > reasonable for many readers because some articles are short and > some are long, and the readers can choose single or splitted version by > preference. It's for consistency. The split version of the books (Handbook, etc) start with index.html. So do the split versions of the articles. Adding a link back and forth between the split and non-split versions is something that I've been meaning to do for ages. But then, shouldn't we perhaps also have links to the other formats as well (PS, PDF, etc...)? I'm not sure. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+U6uYk6gHZCw343URAnK7AJ0SbLmHW5aRlprlePshwa1FoG9eBACgh0eG yl+CL5J6SVs7VSnrHkf1lN0= =QNbt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 8: 9:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621BE37B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-19-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0C443FA3 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:09:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1JG9Xaw032753; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:09:33 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1JG9Xm0065968; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:09:33 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1JG9XBA065967; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:09:33 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:09:33 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Hiroki Sato Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc.docbook.mk diff Message-ID: <20030219160933.GE6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20030215.135829.102526182.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LSp5EJdfMPwZcMS1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030215.135829.102526182.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --LSp5EJdfMPwZcMS1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 01:58:29PM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > - WITH_BIBLIOXREF_TITLE: > for cross references to bibliography entries, use the title of > the entry as the cross reference text, if defined. Heh. I wrote the code for that for the DocBook stylesheets months ago, specifically so we could use it in the project for the Handbook's bibliography. Nice to see it make its way in :-) N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --LSp5EJdfMPwZcMS1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+U6w9k6gHZCw343URAiMYAJwN3JgC/SGFaT7E5+toe44iVyXw+wCggBsC 97p4K9szq3w2dWblnrnVans= =pYkP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LSp5EJdfMPwZcMS1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 8:12:47 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6149737B401; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-19-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E1343F75; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:12:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1JGCgaw032954; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:12:42 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1JGCgm0065989; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:12:42 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1JGCcXU065988; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:12:38 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:12:38 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: Pat Lathem , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Copying of Developer's Guide Message-ID: <20030219161238.GF6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> <20030216214612.GA1463@nosferatu.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vKFfOv5t3oGVpiF+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030216214612.GA1463@nosferatu.blackend.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --vKFfOv5t3oGVpiF+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 10:46:12PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 11:42:36AM -0800, Pat Lathem wrote: > > I recently tried to print out out the Developer's Guide=20 > > at a local Kinko's. They refused because it is=20 > > copyrighted. They looked at page 2 of the guide, and=20 > > decided that it was not explicit stately that=20 > > reproduction was allowed (in printed form). Could that=20 > > page possibly explicitly state that it is permissible=20 > > to copy the Developer's handbook (with whatever=20 > > restrictions) in printed form? It would be greatly=20 > > appreciated. >=20 > I think > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ln12= .html > is quite clear on that point: you can print it :) Just to be explicit, we could slightly expand point 2; 2. Redistribution in compiled form (...), or in print, must reproduce, ... Just the ", or in print, " is added. Any objections? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --vKFfOv5t3oGVpiF+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+U6z2k6gHZCw343URAlySAJ4tnFxxZHkiNZsfNPaAbOM2oOJ9ewCfeMLY DO6bTgJ6NQnL5bIqk4IsU+I= =F7aa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vKFfOv5t3oGVpiF+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 8:15:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1070137B401; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust240.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4076643FAF; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:15:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lWsX-0002j8-00; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:15:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:15:25 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Nik Clayton Cc: Marc Fonvieille , Pat Lathem , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Copying of Developer's Guide Message-ID: <20030219161525.GA10400@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Nik Clayton , Marc Fonvieille , Pat Lathem , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> <20030216214612.GA1463@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030219161238.GF6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030219161238.GF6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 04:12:38PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 10:46:12PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 11:42:36AM -0800, Pat Lathem wrote: > > > I recently tried to print out out the Developer's Guide > > > at a local Kinko's. They refused because it is > > > copyrighted. They looked at page 2 of the guide, and > > > decided that it was not explicit stately that > > > reproduction was allowed (in printed form). Could that > > > page possibly explicitly state that it is permissible > > > to copy the Developer's handbook (with whatever > > > restrictions) in printed form? It would be greatly > > > appreciated. > > > > I think > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ln12.html > > is quite clear on that point: you can print it :) > > Just to be explicit, we could slightly expand point 2; > > 2. Redistribution in compiled form (...), or in print, must > reproduce, ... > > Just the ", or in print, " is added. > > Any objections? Good plan. Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 8:58:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD7737B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:58:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from demos.su (mx.demos.su [194.87.0.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA0C43F3F for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mitya@fling-wing.demos.su) Received: from [194.87.5.69] (HELO fling-wing.demos.su) by demos.su (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6/D) with ESMTP-TLS id 61989664 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:58:53 +0300 Received: from fling-wing.demos.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fling-wing.demos.su (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1JGwrL2035490 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:58:53 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from mitya@fling-wing.demos.su) Received: (from mitya@localhost) by fling-wing.demos.su (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1JGwr9d035489 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:58:53 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:58:53 +0300 From: Dmitry Sivachenko To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: teTeX port update Message-ID: <20030219165853.GA34987@fling-wing.demos.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline WWW-Home-Page: http://mitya.pp.ru/ X-PGP-Key: http://mitya.pp.ru/mitya.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I am about to update teTeX port to version 2.0.1. As far as I know, you use teTeX to build docs. Could you please test the patch to be sure docs build is not broken after update? URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~demon/tetex.diff (files/patch-::texk::web2c::web2c::web2c.y removed). Thanks! 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CWCE is soliciting abstracts on a number of topics and there is still time to get a paper in. Thank you for reviewing the conference information and hopefully you will promote this new event on your web site. Candace Shirley Steering Committee Member for the CWCE Technical Conference ClusterWorld Conference and Expo FINAL WEEK TO SUBMIT ABSTRACTS SUBMISSION DEADLINE EXTENDED TO -- FEBRUARY 24, 2003 Call for Papers and submission information are available at: http://www.linuxclustersinstitute.org/Linux-HPC-Revolution/ ClusterWorld Conference and Expo in Partnership with the Linux Clusters: HPC Revolution 2003 Conference June 24 - 26, 2003 June 23, 2003 Tutorials San Jose Convention Center San Jose, CA, USA The Linux Clusters: the HPC Revolution 2003 Conference and the ClusterWorld Conference and Expo (CWCE) have merged to become the premier international conference concerning clusters of all types. This will be a 4-day event including conference, expo, and tutorials. The world-class event is focused on the application and management of clustered systems in large-scale computing environments. For 4 days, users, researchers, vendors, executives, and developers, of large-scale clusters will gather in San Jose to see the most recent technology offerings and learn about the latest developments and current research while also helping others by sharing knowledge and experiences. The CWCE technical conference, organized in partnership with the Linux Clusters Institute (LCI), will feature quality presentations from speakers involved in high- performance large-scale and cluster computing from industry, academia, and government organizations. The technical papers will cover a broad range of topics. These speakers will address efforts to integrate and develop science and engineering applications for large-scale clusters, in order to achieve maximum performance and scalability. This year, the conference is being expanded to include a full day of tutorials - "Applications Tuning in a Nutshell" and "Systems in a Nutshell" offered by LCI instructors. The technical conference program committee is soliciting novel papers on a broad range of topics related to end user applications, development of tools, systems integration, operation and support, and experiences in use and administration. Proposed papers will be selected on the basis of a 5 to 8 page extended abstract. Industry-specific tracks will provide users and companies an opportunity to present their experiences with applications, tools, use, and administration of large-scale clusters. The anticipated industrial tracks include - petroleum and geophysics, bioinformatics, rendering for content creation, aerospace and automotive, and finance. Parties interested in participating in the industrial tracks, involving a presentation only, should submit a one-page abstract outlining their experiences. The deadline for extended abstract submission is February 24, 2003. For further information about submitting abstracts, see: http://www.linuxclustersinstitute.org/Linux-HPC-Revolution/callforpapers.html Topics of interest include (but are not limited to) the following: - Cluster computing in Business, Industry, or Academia - Experiences in Development of Highly Parallel Applications - Porting Experiences - Performance Evaluation, Analysis, and Optimization - High Performance Applications and Libraries - Performance Tools, Debuggers, and Environments - Compilers - Clusters in Education - Experiences in Operating Clusters for Production HPC - Clusters in Data Centers - New Experimental and Commercial Clusters - Clusters in Heterogeneous HPC Environments - System Management and Administration - Resource Management - Tools for Building and Administering Clusters - Scheduling and Load Balancing - Parallel I/O, File Systems, and Storage - Networks, Interconnects, and Protocols - Security - Meta- and Grid-Computing - Middleware for Clusters KEY DATES Extended abstract submission deadline: Feb. 24, 2003 Authors notification: March 15, 2003 Final paper submission deadline: May 2, 2003 Early registration deadline: May 23, 2003 For submission information and instructions, refer to: http://www.linuxclustersinstitute.org/Linux-HPC-Revolution PROGRAM COMMITTEE Donald Becker - Scyld Computing Comporation, USA Peter Beckman - Argonne National Laboratories, USA Gianfranco Bilardi - University of Padova, Italy Jay Boisseau - TACC / UT - Austin, USA Ron Brightwell - Sandia National Laboratories, USA Giri Chukkapalli - San Diego Supercomputing Center, USA Stefano Cozzini - INFM - Sissa, Italy Cesar De Rose - CPAD - PUCRS / HP, Brazil Jack Dongarra - University of Tennessee, USA Thomas Fahringer - University of Vienna, Austria Patrick Geoffray - Myricom, USA David Henry - Linux NetworX, USA Haeng Jin Jang - KISTI, South Korea Patricia Kovatch - San Diego Supercomputing Center, USA Werner Krotz-Vogel - Pallas, Germany Greg Lindahl - Key Technologies, USA Arthur B. 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Navarro - Argonne National Laboratories, USA Henry Neeman - OSCER - Oklahoma University, USA Takashi Ohta - IBM Tokyo Research Lab, Japan Rod Oldehoeft - Los Alamos National Laboratories, USA Jairo Panetta - INPE / CPTEC, Brazil Michael Pflugmacher - NCSA / UIUC, USA Christoph Pospiech - IBM, Germany Jean-Pierre Prost - IBM, France Faisal Saied - NCSA / UIUC, USA Stephen Scott, ORNL, USA Nils Smeds - KTH, Sweden Brian Smith - University of New Mexico, USA Martin Streicher - Linux Magazine, USA John Taylor - Quadrics, UK Jeff Vetter - LLNL, USA STEERING COMMITTEE Stacey Ackerman - CWCE Robert Ballance - HPCERC/ UNM Luiz DeRose - IBM Research Frank Gilfeather - HPCERC / UNM Adam Goodman - CWCE David Klepacki - IBM Research Becky McGreal - NCSA / UIUC Pratap Pattnaik - IBM Research Neil Pundit - Sandia National Laboratories Daniel Reed - NCSA / UIUC Bryan Richard - CWCE Candace Shirley - HPCERC / UNM John Towns - NCSA / UIUC CWCE is the premier event focused on the application and management of large-scale clustered systems in commercial, research and academic environments. LCI's mission is to provide advanced technical training and foster the sharing of emerging technologies for the deployment and use of Linux-based computing clusters to the high performance computing community worldwide. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 11:20: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CC737B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182DE43FAF for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1JJK2NS079100 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1JJK2cs079099; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E59B37B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9096943F85 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 11:16:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dot.bomb@freenet.de) Received: from [194.97.50.144] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with asmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18lZhn-0007jw-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:16:31 +0100 Received: from b935a.pppool.de ([213.7.147.90] helo=charon.freenet.de) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 4.12 #2) id 18lZhm-00078C-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:16:31 +0100 Received: by charon.freenet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F081F105; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:21:15 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <20030219202115.F081F105@charon.freenet.de> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:21:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Peter Philipp Reply-To: Peter Philipp To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/48466: Document undocumented option -l in netstat. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48466 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Document undocumented option -l in netstat. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Feb 19 11:20:02 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Peter Philipp >Release: FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Free >Environment: System: FreeBSD charon 4.6-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE #1: Sun Feb 9 17:49:46 GMT 2003 pbug@charon:/usr/src/sys/compile/FBSD i386 >Description: netstat has support for option -l in FreeBSD but does not mention it in the manpage. Match documentation with reality. >How-To-Repeat: Wondering what the option -l in netstat does. >Fix: Patch to netstat.1 follows: --- /usr/tmp/usr.bin/netstat/netstat.1 Sun Nov 18 16:41:52 2001 +++ netstat.1 Wed Feb 19 17:07:22 2003 @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ .It Xo .Bk -words .Nm -.Op Fl AaLnSW +.Op Fl AaLlnSW .Op Fl f Ar protocol_family | Fl p Ar protocol .Op Fl M Ar core .Op Fl N Ar system @@ -189,7 +189,7 @@ .Bk -words .Nm .Fl r -.Op Fl AanW +.Op Fl AalnW .Op Fl f Ar address_family .Op Fl M Ar core .Op Fl N Ar system @@ -233,7 +233,7 @@ .Bk -words .Nm .Fl g -.Op Fl W +.Op Fl lW .Op Fl f Ar address_family .Op Fl M Ar core .Op Fl N Ar system @@ -293,6 +293,9 @@ The program will complain if .Ar protocol is unknown or if there is no statistics routine for it. +.It Fl l +Is synonymous for +.Fl W . .It Fl M Extract values associated with the name list from the specified core instead of the default >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 12:21:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CB537B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp-128-211.30-151.libero.it (ppp-128-211.30-151.libero.it [151.30.211.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3634F43FA3 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:21:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.trentini@remotelab.org) Received: from remotelab.org (einstein.hack [192.168.168.2]) by ppp-128-211.30-151.libero.it (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1JKNqT04392 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:23:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from m.trentini@remotelab.org) Message-ID: <3E53E675.109@remotelab.org> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:17:57 +0100 From: Marco Trentini Reply-To: m.trentini@remotelab.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; it-IT; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: it, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: broken images? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have noted which the handbook and any articles in rtf-pdb formats (take from ftp.freebsd.org) have broken images. Is it right? -- Marco Trentini m.trentini@remotelab.org http://www.remotelab.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 12:33:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE27937B405 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3083F43FB1 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:33:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kerryedavis@earthlink.net) Received: from dialup-65.56.253.175.dial1.phoenix1.level3.net ([65.56.253.175] helo=desktop) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18lau2-0002IG-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:33:14 -0800 Message-ID: <022801c2d856$1d525fc0$0200000a@desktop> From: "Kerry Davis" To: Subject: French? Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:33:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why is there a French-language handbook available for download at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook but the online handbook text at the French-language site/mirror (freebsd-fr.org) is still in English? (http://www.freebsd-fr.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 13: 5: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E7D37B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta04.btfusion.com (mta04.btfusion.com [62.172.195.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96B543FA3 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:05:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bztriq@bk.ru) Received: from [217.36.47.137] (helo=arcticbs.co.uk) by mta04.btfusion.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18lbOp-0006De-00 for faq@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:05:03 +0000 Received: from 2s0t3mf6q9ddy8n ([61.133.119.130]) by arcticbs.co.uk ([192.168.0.1]) with SMTP (MDaemon.Standard.v6.0.7.R) for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:57:48 +0000 Reply-To: bztriq@bk.ru From: To: propiska@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Ïðîïèñêà â Ìîñêîâñêîé îáëàñòè XLFZBDZCWO Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:04:21 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1081 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1081 X-MDRemoteIP: 61.133.119.130 X-Return-Path: bztriq@bk.ru X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: faq@freebsd.org Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Þðèäè÷åñêàÿ ôèðìà “JUS PRIVATUM” ( “ ×àñòíîå ïðàâî”) îêàçûâàåò Ïîìîùü â îôîðìëåíèè ïîñòîÿííîé ðåãèñòðàöèè (ïðîïèñêå) â Ìîñêîâñêîé îáëàñòè äëÿ ãðàæäàí Ðîññèéñêîé Ôåäåðàöèè. 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DTKCUJFNZONQYHZNKOMVWMBHBMJOJIEJOMIDKE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 13:13: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9C537B405 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4E743FAF for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b032.otenet.gr [195.167.121.160]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1JLCtFw026257 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:12:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1JLCE9p026999 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:12:14 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1JH2Vpl029544; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:02:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:02:31 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Audsin Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changes in tcp6_output.c and tcp6_input.c Message-ID: <20030219170231.GF16096@gothmog.gr> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030219120538.00a8ef58@pop2.kcl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030219120538.00a8ef58@pop2.kcl.ac.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-02-19 12:06, Audsin wrote: > I have made some changes to the > /usr/kame/kame/kame/sys/netinet6/tcp6_input.c and > /usr/kame/kame/kame/netinet6/sys/tcp6_output.c in FreeBSD 4.4 and i > am using Kame snap. I have some queries regarding making the changes > active. Can anyone please tell me the procedure to recompile or > reconfigure the kernel so that the changes come into effect > > I would be grateful to you, if you could let me know these questions Look at the following: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html - Giorgos PS: The freebsd-doc list is for discussions related to the building, testing and review of FreeBSD documentation; not for general questions. Please use freebsd-questions in the future :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 13:13: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2948437B407; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F64F43FB1; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b032.otenet.gr [195.167.121.160]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1JLCtFw026272; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:12:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1JLCE9r026999; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:12:18 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1JH8iIk044096; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:08:44 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:08:44 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Nik Clayton Cc: Marc Fonvieille , Pat Lathem , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Copying of Developer's Guide Message-ID: <20030219170844.GG16096@gothmog.gr> References: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> <20030216214612.GA1463@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030219161238.GF6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030219161238.GF6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-02-19 16:12, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 10:46:12PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 11:42:36AM -0800, Pat Lathem wrote: > > > I recently tried to print out out the Developer's Guide at a > > > local Kinko's. They refused because it is copyrighted. They > > > looked at page 2 of the guide, and decided that it was not > > > explicit stately that reproduction was allowed (in printed > > > form). Could that page possibly explicitly state that it is > > > permissible to copy the Developer's handbook (with whatever > > > restrictions) in printed form? It would be greatly appreciated. > > > > I think > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ln12.html > > is quite clear on that point: you can print it :) > > Just to be explicit, we could slightly expand point 2; > > 2. Redistribution in compiled form (...), or in print, must > reproduce, ... > > Just the ", or in print, " is added. Looks fine. > Any objections? No, not really. I was thinking of something similar, like: 2. Redistribution or reproduction in compiled form (...) as a means of allowing anyone to copy, print, reuse, or do anything else they find fit with the documents, as long as they don't expect any sort of warranty and they don't claim they did the original. Perhaps, we could combine the "reproduction" stuff with "in print"? Or does one of them make the other redundant? - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 13:42:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E7037B401; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA4E43FAF; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:42:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown[12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <200302192142040010073f4ee>; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:42:04 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1JLet5F072377; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:40:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h1JLejPn072372; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:40:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Nik Clayton Cc: Marc Fonvieille , Pat Lathem , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Copying of Developer's Guide References: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> <20030216214612.GA1463@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030219161238.GF6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 19 Feb 2003 13:40:44 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20030219161238.GF6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton writes: > Just to be explicit, we could slightly expand point 2; > > 2. Redistribution in compiled form (...), or in print, must > reproduce, ... That's explicit, but it's not the explicit license asked for. Reproduction and public distribution are separate copyrights under US copyright law (as is derivation). Printers might not be willing to find a license to "reproduce in printed form" in the word "use". According to the OP, the conditions are clearly being met, so changing them might be insufficient. It's the first paragraph that seems to be the stumbling block. I'd like to propose a fix, but IANAL. (The conditions have their own problems. They each refer to a missing "above copyright notice" , which, when found, refers to a copyright owner which can't be found.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 14:40:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8139E37B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DE143FBD for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1JMeBNS026247 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1JMeBlh026246; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4C037B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:36:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ground0.paix.net (ground0.paix.net [128.177.247.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7510F43FA3 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:36:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from larson@eng.paix.net) Received: (from larson@localhost) by ground0.paix.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA45926; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:36:25 -0800 (PST) env-from (larson@eng.paix.net) Message-Id: <200302192236.OAA45926@ground0.paix.net> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: Alan Larson Reply-To: larson@eng.paix.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48472 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Documentation unreadable. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Feb 19 14:40:11 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alan Larson >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE i386 >Organization: PAIX.net >Environment: Netscape 4.79, running on FreeBSD 4.3, viewing 4.7 install instructions. >Description: The web page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html prints illustrations on top of text. >How-To-Repeat: Try looking at it again. >Fix: Teach html authors how to write, and how to write in multi-browser compatable manner. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 14:42:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2424D37B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:42:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail06.lax.untd.com (outbound-28.lax.untd.com [64.136.28.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A09243F85 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:42:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sambakut@juno.com) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"xjdmGTKwx2FbabxZIBSmJbLPvJ/VRuZyD0I6XzcCIdbaAPjjvjxMyQ=="> Received: (from sambakut@juno.com) by webmail06.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id HRES3BSR; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:41:51 PST Received: from [81.23.192.195] by webmail06.lax.untd.com X-Originating-IP: [81.23.192.195] X-Original-From: sambakut@juno.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 22:40:51 GMT To: sambakut@juno.com Subject: KINDLY ASSIST X-Mailer: WebMail Version 1.0 From: sambakut@juno.com Message-Id: <20030219.144151.18888.112278@webmail06.lax.untd.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Att:Managing Director/CEO, This letter was borne out of my sincere desire to establish a business/mutual relationship with you. 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He made this savings on his name with the hope of converting it to his personal use, at the end of the war, but was killed when the conflict intensified as a result of his opposition to the rebel forces.I have contacted the security company to confirm the deposit and establish ownership. All the arrangement has concudled with the security company and the diplomatic company to moved this money to you within 10 working days of the receipt of your respond. Due to the death of my mother and the return of peace in Sierra-Leone, I have decided to solicit for the participation of an honest and trust worthy person or company that will assist in the transfer and business re-investment of the money. I can not do it alone due to my present social status and total ignorance of the business world. You will be given a 20% percentage at the end of the transaction. If you are interested in the above proposal, contact me immediately on phone number 234-803-3376391 for more details. You must maintain absolute confidentiality to ensure success. Please, indicate your personal Tel/Fax number when replying. Best Regards. MR. SAMUEL KUNTE for the family To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 15:10: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7C437B405 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E25A43F3F for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:10:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1JNA6NS079031 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:10:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1JNA6hr079030; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:10:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:10:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302192310.h1JNA6hr079030@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. Reply-To: Ceri Davies Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48472; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri Davies To: Alan Larson Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:00:45 +0000 On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:36:25PM -0800, Alan Larson wrote: > >Environment: > > Netscape 4.79, running on FreeBSD 4.3, viewing 4.7 install instructions. > > >Description: > > The web page: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html > prints illustrations on top of text. Can you post some screenshots on a web-server somewhere ? I can't reproduce this with Netscape 4.78. Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 16:56: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from soupnazi.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E921937B401; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:56:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:56:12 -0800 Subject: Re: French? Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: To: "Kerry Davis" From: Jim Mock In-Reply-To: <022801c2d856$1d525fc0$0200000a@desktop> Message-Id: <1B2B9CB1-446E-11D7-BF65-000393460DB2@soupnazi.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 12:33 PM, Kerry Davis wrote: > Why is there a French-language handbook available for download at > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook > but the online handbook text at the French-language site/mirror > (freebsd-fr.org) is still in English? > (http://www.freebsd-fr.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ > index.html) Look at the URL. You're requesting the English document. http://www.freebsd-fr.org/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html is in French. - jim -- jim mock jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 18:52:56 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D0237B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.ogis-ri.co.jp (ns.ogis-ri.co.jp [158.201.127.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A176B43F3F for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:52:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Yamano_Yuji@tk-bay.ogis-ri.co.jp) Received: from mta.icc.ogis-ri.co.jp (hikaru.icc.ogis-ri.co.jp [158.201.123.45]) by mail.ogis-ri.co.jp (8.9.2+3.1W/3.7W0110111822) with ESMTP id LAA14672 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:52:52 +0900 (JST) Received: from mx1.tk-bay.ogis-ri.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta.icc.ogis-ri.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C4B4E27F for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:52:52 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (dh10238.tk-bay.ogis-ri.co.jp [158.201.102.168]) by mx1.tk-bay.ogis-ri.co.jp (8.9.3+Sun/3.7W-MailExchanger) with ESMTP id LAA20670 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:52:52 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:51:53 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030220.115153.17415692.Yamano_Yuji@tk-bay.ogis-ri.co.jp> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: broken link From: YAMANO Yuji X-Mailer: Mew version 3.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.1 (AOI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/biblio.html, the link to McKusick's releng paper is incorrect. I think it must be http://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/papers/releng.html -- YAMANO Yuji Everybody's got a little light under the sun. --George Clinton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 19:45:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E39037B401 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from openline.com.br (200211155028-dial-user-BOL.acessonet.com.br [200.211.155.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13B6943FA3 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 19:45:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from divulgadorssp@openline.com.br) From: "Divulgador de Artistas" To: Subject: Divulgação de Artistas em Rádios do Interior de SP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:44:46 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030220034543.13B6943FA3@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org

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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Feb 19 21: 6:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8583F37B405; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291C043F85; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:06:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (bmah@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1K56pNS058794; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:06:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1K56oOY058790; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:06:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:06:50 -0800 (PST) From: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-Id: <200302200506.h1K56oOY058790@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@ugh.net.au, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42312: make release broken without full ports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: make release broken without full ports State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Wed Feb 19 21:04:47 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Is it OK if I close this? I think it's something that can (should) be worked around by making sure that a release gets built with a ports tree with a tag that's consistent with the release being built (as described in my first followup). http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42312 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 0:41:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA74137B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD82B43FA3 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:41:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1K8fWTS012518; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:41:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1K8fMRp000603; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:41:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1K8fGK1000602; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:41:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:41:16 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Marco Trentini Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken images? Message-ID: <20030220084116.GA565@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <3E53E675.109@remotelab.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E53E675.109@remotelab.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 09:17:57PM +0100, Marco Trentini wrote: > Hello, I have noted which the handbook and any articles in rtf-pdb > formats (take from ftp.freebsd.org) have broken images. > > > Is it right? > I also had issues with rtf these days. I put it on my todo list. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 1: 7: 0 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5150B37B412 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2415143F75 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:06:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 45A0121063; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:48:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:48:11 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, marcs@draenor.org Subject: Update to Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD... Message-ID: <20030217074811.GN27077@perrin.int.nxad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fKov5AqTsvseSZ0Z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --fKov5AqTsvseSZ0Z Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="FUFe+yI/t+r3nyH4" Content-Disposition: inline --FUFe+yI/t+r3nyH4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a pretty simple update that makes the firewall rules used for dialup machines significantly more secure. If there are no objections, I'd like to commit this in a week. -sc http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/#dialup_firewall_rules_update --=20 Sean Chittenden --FUFe+yI/t+r3nyH4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=patch Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: article.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/dialup-firewall/article.s= gml,v retrieving revision 1.26 diff -u -r1.26 article.sgml --- article.sgml 2 Feb 2003 01:36:40 -0000 1.26 +++ article.sgml 17 Feb 2003 07:25:45 -0000 @@ -64,6 +64,17 @@     =20 + options IPFW2 + + + Enables the new version of IPFW. + Only do this if you're running FreeBSD 4.X, + this is the default in newer versions of + FreeBSD. + + + + options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE =20 @@ -152,7 +163,7 @@ ppp_nat=3D"YES" ppp_profile=3D"profile" =20 - If so, you will need to specifically disable=20 + If so, you will need to specifically disable ppp_nat by making sure you have ppp_nat=3D"NO" in /etc/rc.conf. You will also need to remove any nat enable yes or @@ -161,15 +172,15 @@ =20 - The ruleset for the firewall + The rule set for the firewall =20 We are nearly done now. All that remains now is to define the firewall rules and then we can reboot and the firewall should be up and running. I realize that everyone will want - something slightly different when it comes to their rulebase. - What I have tried to do is write a rulebase that suits most dialup + something slightly different when it comes to their rule base. + What I have tried to do is write a rule base that suits most dialup users. You can obviously modify it to your needs by using the - following rules as the foundation for your own rulebase. First, + following rules as the foundation for your own rule base. First, let's start with the basics of closed firewalling. What you want to do is deny everything by default and then only open up for the things you really need. Rules should be in the order of @@ -187,13 +198,7 @@ Now, let's look at a sample firewall file, that is commented nicely. =20 - # Firewall rules -# Written by Marc Silver (marcs@draenor.org) -# http://draenor.org/ipfw -# Freely distributable - - -# Define the firewall command (as in /etc/rc.firewall) for easy + # Define the firewall command (as in /etc/rc.firewall)= for easy # reference. Helps to make it easier to read. fwcmd=3D"/sbin/ipfw" =20 @@ -203,41 +208,35 @@ # Divert all packets through the tunnel interface. $fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via tun0 =20 -# Allow all data from my network card and localhost. Make sure you -# change your network card (mine was fxp0) before you reboot. :) -$fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via lo0 -$fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via fxp0 - -# Allow all connections that I initiate. -$fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any out xmit tun0 setup +# Allow all connections that have dynamic rules built for them, +# but deny established connections that don't have a dynamic rule. +# See ipfw(8) for details. +$fwcmd add check-state +$fwcmd add deny tcp from any to any established + +# Allow all localhost connections +$fwcmd add allow tcp from me to any out via lo0 setup keep-state +$fwcmd add deny tcp from me to any out via lo0 +$fwcmd add allow ip from me to any out via lo0 keep-state + +# Allow all connections from my network card that I initiate +$fwcmd add allow tcp from me to any out xmit any setup keep-state +$fwcmd add deny tcp from me to any +$fwcmd add allow ip from me to any out xmit any keep-state =20 -# Once connections are made, allow them to stay open. -$fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any via tun0 established - -# Everyone on the internet is allowed to connect to the following +# Everyone on the Internet is allowed to connect to the following # services on the machine. This example specifically allows connections -# to ssh and apache. -$fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 80 setup -$fwcmd add allow tcp from any to any 22 setup +# to sshd and a webserver. +$fwcmd add allow tcp from any to me dst-port 22,80 in recv any setup keep-= state =20 # This sends a RESET to all ident packets. -$fwcmd add reset log tcp from any to any 113 in recv tun0 - -# Allow outgoing DNS queries ONLY to the specified servers. -$fwcmd add allow udp from any to x.x.x.x 53 out= xmit tun0 - -# Allow them back in with the answers... :) -$fwcmd add allow udp from x.x.x.x 53 to any in = recv tun0 - -# Allow ICMP (for ping and traceroute to work). You may wish to -# disallow this, but I feel it suits my needs to keep them in. -$fwcmd add allow icmp from any to any +$fwcmd add reset log tcp from any to me 113 in recv any =20 # Deny all the rest. $fwcmd add deny log ip from any to any =20 You now have a fully functional firewall that will allow on - connections to ports 80 and 22 and will log any other connection + connections to ports 22 and 80 and will log any other connection attempts. Now, you should be able to safely reboot and your firewall should come up fine. If you find this incorrect in anyway or experie= nce any problems, or have any suggestions to improve this page, please @@ -254,7 +253,7 @@ you could be using the built in &man.ppp.8; filters? -=09 + I will have to be honest and say there is no definitive reason why I use ipfw and @@ -323,7 +322,7 @@ =20 This tutorial assumes that you are running - userland-ppp, therefore the supplied ruleset + userland-ppp, therefore the supplied rule set operates on the tun0 interface, which corresponds to the first connection made with &man.ppp.8; (a.k.a. user-ppp). Additional connections would use @@ -336,7 +335,7 @@ tun0 for ppp0. A quick way to edit the firewall rules to reflect this change is shown below. The - original ruleset is backed up as + original rules et is backed up as fwrules_tun0. =20 &prompt.user; cd /etc/firewall --FUFe+yI/t+r3nyH4-- --fKov5AqTsvseSZ0Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Sean Chittenden iD8DBQE+UJO73ZnjH7yEs0ERAqtuAKDmCIsnZFVuHP32eKP1QtIAa/CMCgCg5aCI 3YJLOWnkt4Qj+JKxXZ1BIkE= =uWUS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fKov5AqTsvseSZ0Z-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 1:26:20 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D3637B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaio.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0E043F85; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:26:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@vaio.alexdupre.com) Received: from vaio.alexdupre.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vaio.alexdupre.com (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1K9RrOD000282; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:27:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from alex@vaio.alexdupre.com) Received: (from alex@localhost) by vaio.alexdupre.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1K9Rrpg000281; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:27:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:16:24 +0100 From: Alex Dupre Reply-To: Alex Dupre Message-ID: <167726002957.20030220101624@alexdupre.com> To: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken images? In-Reply-To: <3E53E675.109@remotelab.org> References: <3E53E675.109@remotelab.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 9:17:57 PM, you wrote: MT> Hello, I have noted which the handbook and any articles in rtf-pdb formats MT> (take from ftp.freebsd.org) have broken images. MT> Is it right? I think you would mean that translated documentation, built with images taken from the en_US original tree, doesn't contain such images in formats like pdf, rtf, pdb. This issue doesn't appear with html, html-split, txt. Right? If so, yes, I've just noticed it. (See the vinum chapter of the French Handbook for example, pdf version, no images) How can we fix it, without copying the images in the other trees? -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: stop bit received To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 1:43:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB8C37B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust240.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB8743F85; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:43:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 18lnEm-000AXc-00; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:43:28 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:43:28 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Sean Chittenden Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, marcs@draenor.org Subject: Re: Update to Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD... Message-ID: <20030220094328.GA40442@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Sean Chittenden , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, marcs@draenor.org References: <20030217074811.GN27077@perrin.int.nxad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030217074811.GN27077@perrin.int.nxad.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 11:48:11PM -0800, Sean Chittenden wrote: > This is a pretty simple update that makes the firewall rules used for > dialup machines significantly more secure. If there are no > objections, I'd like to commit this in a week. -sc Is the one you committed already ? Looks like your reverse DNS is fixed ;-) Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 1:49:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D803337B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from fw.ifi.edu.vn (fw.ifi.edu.vn [203.162.5.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FDD43F75 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:49:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pbellot@ifi.edu.vn) Received: from saturne.dorsale.ifi.edu.vn (IDENT:root@saturne.dorsale.ifi.edu.vn [192.168.100.1]) by fw.ifi.edu.vn (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h1KGcM628779 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:38:22 +0700 Received: from ifi.edu.vn (alaska.vpn.ifi [10.230.33.107]) by saturne.dorsale.ifi.edu.vn (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h1L00EO20012 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:00:15 -0700 Message-ID: <3E54A439.2000100@ifi.edu.vn> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:47:37 +0700 From: Patrick Bellot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: EagleTec WLAN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The card EagleTec 11Mbps Wireless LAN Card (PCMCIA) is recognized by the driver wi0 as an Intersil Firmware but it works nice. Patrick Bellot -- Directeur des études, IFI, Hanoi, Vietnam. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 1:52:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDC237B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaio.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A846B43F3F; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:52:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@vaio.alexdupre.com) Received: from vaio.alexdupre.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vaio.alexdupre.com (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1K9rsOD000348; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:53:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from alex@vaio.alexdupre.com) Received: (from alex@localhost) by vaio.alexdupre.com (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1K9rsLe000347; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:53:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:47:52 +0100 From: Alex Dupre Reply-To: Alex Dupre X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <136727891262.20030220104752@alexdupre.com> To: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Dmitry Sivachenko Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: teTeX port update In-Reply-To: <20030219165853.GA34987@fling-wing.demos.su> References: <20030219165853.GA34987@fling-wing.demos.su> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 5:58:53 PM, you wrote: DS> I am about to update teTeX port to version 2.0.1. DS> Could you please test the patch to be sure docs build is not broken DS> after update? Just tested...It seems to work without problems...One thing: I compiled it WITHOUT_X11=yes and... ===> Deinstalling for teTeX-2.0.1 pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/bin/mf-nowin' doesn't really exist pkg_delete: file '/usr/local/bin/mfw' doesn't really exist -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: root rot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 2:29:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D897237B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:29:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp-25-215.30-151.libero.it (ppp-25-215.30-151.libero.it [151.30.215.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D3243FAF for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:29:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.trentini@remotelab.org) Received: from remotelab.org (einstein.hack [192.168.168.2]) by ppp-25-215.30-151.libero.it (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1KAWZO00321 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:32:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from m.trentini@remotelab.org) Message-ID: <3E54AD5C.1020209@remotelab.org> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:26:36 +0100 From: Marco Trentini Reply-To: m.trentini@remotelab.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; it-IT; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: it, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken images? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex Dupre ha scritto: > Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 9:17:57 PM, you wrote: > > MT> Hello, I have noted which the handbook and any articles in rtf-pdb formats > MT> (take from ftp.freebsd.org) have broken images. > > MT> Is it right? > > I think you would mean that translated documentation, built with images > taken from the en_US original tree, doesn't contain such images in > formats like pdf, rtf, pdb. This issue doesn't appear with html, > html-split, txt. Right? > If so, yes, I've just noticed it. (See the vinum chapter of the French > Handbook for example, pdf version, no images) > How can we fix it, without copying the images in the other trees? All right, but the rtf-pdb issue concern both the original documentation and translated documentation. -- Marco Trentini m.trentini@remotelab.org http://www.remotelab.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 5: 8: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257DC37B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 05:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721D343FD7; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 05:08:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (nosferatu.blackend.org [192.168.10.205]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KD7wTS013569; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:07:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from nosferatu.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KD7nRp001194; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:07:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@nosferatu.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by nosferatu.blackend.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1KD7hJA001193; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:07:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:07:43 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Alex Dupre Cc: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken images? Message-ID: <20030220130743.GB565@nosferatu.blackend.org> References: <3E53E675.109@remotelab.org> <167726002957.20030220101624@alexdupre.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <167726002957.20030220101624@alexdupre.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:16:24AM +0100, Alex Dupre wrote: > Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 9:17:57 PM, you wrote: > > MT> Hello, I have noted which the handbook and any articles in rtf-pdb formats > MT> (take from ftp.freebsd.org) have broken images. > > MT> Is it right? > > I think you would mean that translated documentation, built with images > taken from the en_US original tree, doesn't contain such images in > formats like pdf, rtf, pdb. This issue doesn't appear with html, > html-split, txt. Right? > If so, yes, I've just noticed it. (See the vinum chapter of the French > Handbook for example, pdf version, no images) > How can we fix it, without copying the images in the other trees? > I know the problem, I'll will fix it soon. I have the fix, it's part of images separation from en_US tree, which will be committed soon. Just wait for few days :) The problem only occurs with formats which need the images in the same dir. 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    ÓÆÅÒÅ ÜËÏÎÏÍÉÞÅÓËÏÇÏ ÐÌÁÎÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÑ, ÐÏÚ×ÏÌÉÔ ÐÏÌÕÞÉÔØ ÐÒÏÆÅÓÓÉÏÎÁÌØÎÙÅ
    ÎÁ×ÙËÉ × ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔËÅ ÜËÏÎÏÍÉÞÅÓËÏÊ ÍÏÄÅÌÉ, ÐÏÍÏÖÅÔ ÇÌÕÂÏËÏ ÏÓÏÚÎÁÔØ
    ×ÅÓØ ÐÒÏÃÅÓÓ ÐÌÁÎÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÑ, ÐÏÄÇÏÔÏ×ÉÔØ ÎÁÇÌÑÄÎÕÀ ÐÒÏÆÅÓÓÉÏÎÁÌØÎÕÀ
    ÄÏËÕÍÅÎÔÁÃÉÀ É ÐÒÅÚÅÎÔÁÃÉÀ ÎÁ ÏÓÎÏ×Å ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÎÏÇÏ ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓÁ.
     
    ëÁÖÄÏÍÕ ÕÞÁÓÔÎÉËÕ ÓÅÍÉÎÁÒÁ:
    ÄÌÑ ÄÁÌØÎÅÊÛÅÊ ÕÓÐÅÛÎÏÊ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ É ×ÎÅÄÒÅÎÉÑ ÍÅÔÏÄÉËÉ ÐÌÁÎÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÑ É
    ÔÅËÕÝÅÇÏ ÂÀÄÖÅÔÎÏÇÏ ÕÞÅÔÁ ÎÁ ÐÒÅÄÐÒÉÑÔÉÉ ÐÒÅÄÏÓÔÁ×ÌÑÀÔÓÑ ÂÅÓÐÌÁÔÎÏ
    ÓÌÅÄÕÀÝÉÅ ÍÅÔÏÄÉÞÅÓËÉÅ ÍÁÔÅÒÉÁÌÙ É ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÙ:
     
    *  «Business Plan PL» ÐÁËÅÔ «ðÏÌÎÙÊ» (ÎÏ×ÁÑ 3.4 ×ÅÒÓÉÑ)
    *  «Business Plan PL» Professional category «Integrator» (ÎÏ×ÁÑ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁ)
    *  ÷ ÐÏÄÁÒÏË ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÁ “Business Plan ðÌÁÎ í” (ÎÏ×ÁÑ 1.4 ×ÅÒÓÉÑ).
    *  íÅÔÏÄÉÞÅÓËÉÊ ÐÅÞÁÔÎÙÊ ÍÁÔÅÒÉÁÌ (ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔÁÎÎÙÊ ÎÁÛÅÊ ËÏÍÐÁÎÉÅÊ)
    ÄÌÑ ÓÁÍÏÓÔÏÑÔÅÌØÎÏÊ ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔËÉ ÆÉÎÁÎÓÏ×ÏÊ ÄÏËÕÍÅÎÔÁÃÉÉ.
    *  üÌÅËÔÒÏÎÎÁÑ ×ÅÒÓÉÑ (ÎÁ CD) ÍÅÔÏÄÉÞÅÓËÏÇÏ ÍÁÔÅÒÉÁÌÁ ÄÌÑ ÓÁÍÏÓÔÏÑÔÅÌØÎÏÊ
    ÒÁÚÒÁÂÏÔËÉ ÆÉÎÁÎÓÏ×ÏÊ ÄÏËÕÍÅÎÔÁÃÉÉ É ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏÇÏ ÍÅÔÏÄÉÞÅÓËÏÇÏ ÍÁÔÅÒÉÁÌÁ.
     
           äïðïìîéôåìøîï:
    *÷ðåò÷ùå! É ÔÏÌØËÏ ÕÞÁÓÔÎÉËÉ ÓÅÍÉÎÁÒÁ ÐÏÌÕÞÁÔ × ÐÏÄÁÒÏË ÏÔ ËÏÍÐÁÎÉÉ ÞÁÓÔØ
    ÔÅÈÎÏÌÏÇÉÊ × ×ÉÄÅ ÉÓÐÏÌÎÉÔÅÌØÎÙÈ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÎÙÈ ÍÏÄÕÌÅÊ ÄÌÑ ×ÏÓÐÒÏÉÚ×ÏÄÓÔ×Á
    ÄÏËÕÍÅÎÔÁÃÉÉ É ÆÏÒÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ÏÔÞÅÔÏ× É ÐÒÅÚÅÎÔÁÃÉÊ.
     
    *65% - ÓËÉÄËÉ ÎÁ ÐÒÉÏÂÒÅÔÅÎÉÅ «Business Plan PL» Professional category «Analyzer»
    (ÐÏÓÔÒÏÅÎÉÅ, ÒÁÚ×ÉÔÉÅ É ÕÐÒÁ×ÌÅÎÉÅ ÜËÏÎÏÍÉÞÅÓËÏÊ ÍÏÄÅÌØÀ ÐÒÅÄÐÒÉÑÔÉÑ).
    äÌÑ ÄÁÎÎÏÊ ËÁÔÅÇÏÒÉÉ ÕÞÁÓÔÎÉËÏ× ÂÕÄÅÔ ÏÒÇÁÎÉÚÏ×ÁÎ ÄÏÐÏÌÎÉÔÅÌØÎÙÊ ÂÅÓÐÌÁÔÎÙÊ
    ÄÅÎØ ÏÂÕÞÅÎÉÑ ÎÅ ×ÈÏÄÑÝÉÊ × ÓÏÓÔÁ× ÒÁÓÐÉÓÁÎÉÑ ÐÒÏ×ÏÄÉÍÏÇÏ ÓÅÍÉÎÁÒÁ.
     
    ëÁÖÄÏÍÕ ÕÞÁÓÔÎÉËÕ ÓÅÍÉÎÁÒÁ ÷ÙÄÁÅÔÓÑ Ë×ÁÌÉÆÉËÁÃÉÏÎÎÙÊ
    Ó Å Ò Ô É Æ É Ë Á Ô ëÏÍÐÁÎÉÉ Ï ÐÒÏÈÏÖÄÅÎÉÉ ËÕÒÓÁ ÏÂÕÞÅÎÉÑ
    «ðÒÏÆÅÓÓÉÏÎÁÌØÎÏÅ ÆÉÎÁÎÓÏ×ÏÅ ÐÌÁÎÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÅ».
    óÐÉÓËÉ ÓÅÒÔÉÆÉÃÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÙÈ ÓÐÅÃÉÁÌÉÓÔÏ× ÐÕÂÌÉËÕÀÔÓÑ ÎÁ ÓÁÊÔÅ ëÏÍÐÁÎÉÉ É
    ÂÕÄÕÔ ÐÏÄÔ×ÅÒÖÄÁÔØÓÑ ÐÏ ÌÀÂÏÍÕ ÚÁÐÒÏÓÕ × ÔÅÞÅÎÉÅ Ë×ÁÌÉÆÉËÁÃÉÏÎÎÏÇÏ ÐÅÒÉÏÄÁ.
    ôÁË ÖÅ ÂÕÄÅÔ ÏÐÕÂÌÉËÏ×ÁÎÁ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÑ Ï ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÅ ÏÂÕÞÅÎÉÑ
    «ðÒÏÆÅÓÓÉÏÎÁÌØÎÏÅ ÆÉÎÁÎÓÏ×ÏÅ ÐÌÁÎÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÅ».
    ðÏ ÏËÏÎÞÁÎÉÉ Ë×ÁÌÉÆÉËÁÃÉÏÎÎÏÇÏ ÓÒÏËÁ ËÁÖÄÙÊ ÓÅÒÔÉÆÉÃÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÙÊ ÓÐÅÃÉÁÌÉÓÔ
    ÓÍÏÖÅÔ ÓÏ ÚÎÁÞÉÔÅÌØÎÙÍÉ ÓËÉÄËÁÍÉ ÐÒÏÊÔÉ ËÕÒÓ ÐÅÒÅË×ÁÌÉÆÉËÁÃÉÉ É ÐÒÉÏÂÒÅÓÔÉ
    ÍÏÄÉÆÉÃÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÙÊ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÎÙÊ ËÏÍÐÌÅËÓ «Business Plan PL» Professional.
     
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    ÆÁÊÌÁÈ ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ×ÙÓÙÌÁÀÔÓÑ ÐÏ ÚÁÐÒÏÓÕ.
     
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    Óâàæàåìûå ãîñïîäà!
     
        Ó÷åáíûé öåíòð êîìïàíèè ÀÊÌÐ â 2003 ãîäó ïðåäëàãàåò øèðîêèé ñïåêòð êîìïëåêñíûõ ïðîãðàìì îáó÷åíèÿ äëÿ ðóêîâîäèòåëåé è ñïåöèàëèñòîâ.
        Ê ðàçðàáîòêå è ïðîâåäåíèþ ó÷åáíûõ ïðîãðàìì ìû ïðèâëåêàåì âåäóùèõ ñïåöèàëèñòîâ, èìåþùèõ áîãàòûé îïûò ïðàêòè÷åñêîé ðàáîòû. 
        Ó÷åáíûé öåíòð ïðåäîñòàâëÿåò âîçìîæíîñòü ïðèíÿòü ó÷àñòèå â ïðîãðàììàõ  Îòêðûòîãî Êîðïîðàòèâíîãî Óíèâåðñèòåòà, êîòîðàÿ ïîçâîëÿåò èñïîëüçîâàòü ïðåèìóùåñòâà âñåõ ôîðì îáó÷åíèÿ, äîñòèãàòü ìàêñèìàëüíîé  îòäà÷è íà âëîæåííûå ñðåäñòâà.
        Ìîäóëüíûå êóðñû îáó÷åíèÿ ðàçðàáîòàíû äëÿ âñåõ óðîâíåé ðóêîâîäèòåëåé è ñïåöèàëèñòîâ, ÷òî  äàåò âîçìîæíîñòü  ïðîâîäèòü îáó÷åíèå íà åäèíîé ìåòîäîëîãè÷åñêîé îñíîâå.
        Äëÿ êîðïîðàòèâíûõ êëèåíòîâ ðàçðàáàòûâàþòñÿ èíäèâèäóàëüíûå ïðîãðàììû îáó÷åíèÿ è ðàçâèòèÿ àäàïòèðîâàííûå ïîä öåëè è ñïåöèôèêó äåÿòåëüíîñòè êîìïàíèè.

     ìàðòå 2003 ãîäà ïðèãëàøàåì Âàñ è Âàøèõ ñîòðóäíèêîâ ïðèíÿòèå ó÷àñòèå â ñëåäóþùèõ ïðîãðàììàõ: 
     
    ÄËß ÐÓÊÎÂÎÄÈÒÅËÅÉ
     
    28 ôåâðàëÿ - Ìàñòåðñòâî ïóáëè÷íîãî âûñòóïëåíèÿ.
    5-6.03        Èñêóññòâî âåäåíèÿ ïåðåãîâîðîâ.
    21.03         Óïðàâëåíèå âðåìåíåì.
    26-27.03     Ïðàêòè÷åñêèå ìåðû èíôîðìàöèîííîé áåçîïàñíîñòè ïðåäïðèÿòèÿ
    ÄËß ÑÎÒÐÓÄÍÈÊÎÂ ÑËÓÆÁÛ ÏÐÎÄÀÆ
     
    17-18.03     Ïðîäàæè ïî òåëåôîíó.
    24-25.03     Óïðàâëåíèå îòäåëîì ïðîäàæ.
     
    ÄËß HR-ÌÅÍÅÄÆÅÐÎÂ È ÑÎÒÐÓÄÍÈÊÎÂ ÎÒÄÅËÀ ÊÀÄÐÎÂ
     
    3-4.03       Ìåòîäû ýôôåêòèâíîé îöåíêè ïåðñîíàëà. Àññåññìåíò-öåíòð.
    04.03        Òðóäîâîé êîäåêñ: ïðàâîâûå àñïåêòû óïðàâëåíèÿ ïåðñîíàëîì.
    05.03        Ïåíñèè è ïîñîáèè: ïîðÿäîê èñ÷èñëåíèÿ, íàçíà÷åíèÿ è âûïëàòû.
    28.03        Ñèñòåìíûé ïîäõîä ê îáó÷åíèþ: îöåíêà ýôôåêòèâíîñòè ïðîâåäåííîãî îáó÷åíèÿ.
    ÄËß ÑÏÅÖÈÀËÈÑÒΠÏÎ ÍÀÏÐÀÂËÅÍÈßÌ ÔÈÍÀÍÑÛ/ÁÓÕÓ×ÅÒ/ÍÀËÎÃÈ
     
    05.03        Áþäæåòèðîâàíèå ïðîìûøëåííûõ ïðåäïðèÿòèé
    14.03        ÍÄÑ: ïðàêòè÷åñêèå ìåðû èñ÷èñëåíèÿ è óïëàòà.
    17.03        Íàëîãîâîå ïëàíèðîâàíèå.
    19-20.03  Îðãàíèçàöèÿ ðàñ÷åòîâ è íàëîãîâîå ïëàíèðîâàíèå ñ èñïîëüçîâàíèåì âåêñåëåé è ñêëàäñêèõ çàëîãîâûõ ñâèäåòåëüñòâ.
    28.03        Ïîñòðîåíèå ñèñòåìû óïðàâëåí÷åñêîãî ó÷åòà â êîìïàíèè.
    Ïîäðîáíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ïðîãðàììàõ îáó÷åíèÿ,
    à òàêæå çàðåãèñòðèðîâàòü ñâîå ó÷àñòèå Âû ìîæåòå ïî òåëåôîíó 730-03-97

    Ïðèãëàøàåì Âàñ ïðèíÿòü ó÷àñòèå â ÏÐÅÇÅÍÒÀÖÈÈ
    òåìàòè÷åñêèõ ÌÀÑÒÅÐÑÊÈÕ (work shop’s)
     
    Òåìû ÌÀÑÒÅÐÑÊÈÕ:
    - Ñîâåðøåíñòâîâàíèå íàâûêîâ ïðîäàæ (5 çàíÿòèé)
    - Òåõíîëîãèÿ äåëîâîé êîììóíèêàöèè (7 çàíÿòèé)
     
     ÷åì ïðåèìóùåñòâà Ìàñòåðñêèõ è êîãäà ýòà ôîðìà îáó÷åíèÿ ýôôåêòèâíà?! 
     
        Âû óæå ïîáûâàëè íà òðåíèíãå è èìååòå ïðåäñòàâëåíèå î ïðîäàæàõ è ïåðåãîâîðàõ êàê î òåõíîëîãèÿõ è ó Âàñ åñòü ñâîé îïûò, è âû õîòèòå ñîâåðøåíñòâîâàòü òîëüêî îïðåäåëåííûå òåìû, íàïðèìåð – êîíòàêò èëè ïåðåãîâîðû î öåíå…
        Âû ñàìè çíàåòå, ÷òî Âû óìååòå õîðîøî, à ÷òî åùå ìîæíî áûëî áû ñîâåðøåíñòâîâàòü è, ñëåäóÿ ñâîåìó èíäèâèäóàëüíîìó ïëàíó ïðîôåññèîíàëüíîãî ðàçâèòèÿ, âûáèðàåòå äëÿ ñåáÿ òåìàòè÷åñêóþ ìàñòåðñêóþ. Ýòî ðàöèîíàëüíî.
        Âàì èíòåðåñíî îáìåíÿòüñÿ îïûòîì ñ òàêèìè æå ïðîôåññèîíàëàìè â ïðîäàæàõ, êàê è Âû. Âàì íóæíû íîâûå èäåè, ñâåæèé âçãëÿä íà èçâåñòíûå âåùè è â òå÷åíèå îäíîãî äíÿ Âû ñìîæåòå ýòî ïîëó÷èòü.
         Ìàñòåðñêîé Âû ìîæåòå  ñòàâèòü çàäà÷ó òðåíåðó, è òðåíåð ðàáîòàåò íà Âàø çàïðîñ â áîëåå äåìîêðàòè÷íîé îáñòàíîâêå, ÷åì íà òðåíèíãå.
    Ïîëó÷èòü áîëåå ïîäðîáíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ ïî òåìàì çàíÿòèé è ôîðìàì ðàáîòû, à òàêæå ïîçíàêîìèòüñÿ ñ òðåíåðîì,
    Âû ñìîæåòå 12 ìàðòà â 16.00 íà ÏÐÅÇÅÍÒÀÖÈÈ.
    Ïðåäâàðèòåëüíàÿ ðåãèñòðàöèÿ ïî òåëåôîíó 730-03-97 îáÿçàòåëüíà!
    Êîíòàêòíûå ëèöà - Âèêòîðèÿ Ñìèðíîâà, Åëåíà Åãîðîâà-Êèðèëëîâà.
    Óâàæàåìûå ãîñïîäà, åñëè Âû íå õîòåëè áû ïîëó÷àòü ýòó ðàññûëêó, ïîæàëóéñòà îòâåòüòå íà ýòî ïèñüìî ñ ïîìåòêîé "Óäàëèòü".
    Ñïàñèáî!
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    Åñëè èíôîðìàöèÿ ïîäîáíîãî ðîäà Âàñ íå èíòåðåñóåò è ïî äðóãèì âîïðîñàì - ïèøèòå: seminar

    Ó÷åáíûé Öåíòð ïðèãëàøàåò íà òðåíèíã:
    “Âåäåíèå äåëîâûõ ïåðåãîâîðîâ ñ VIP-êëèåíòàìè: ðå÷åâûå àñïåêòû”
    28 ôåâðàëÿ 2003ã

    Òðåíèíã ïðåäíàçíà÷åí äëÿ top-ìåíåäæåðîâ, ìåíåäæåðîâ, âåäóùèõ ïðåäñòàâèòåëüñêèå ïåðåãîâîðû

    Òðåíåð: Êîëòóíîâà Ì.Â. – êàíäèäàò ôèëîëîãè÷åñêèõ íàóê, äîêòîðàíò Èíñòèòóòà ðóññêîãî ÿçûêà èì. À.Ñ. Ïóøêèíà. Íåçàâèñèìûé êîíñóëüòàíò-ýêñïåðò ïî âîïðîñàì äîêóìåíòàëèñòèêè, ïðåïîäàâàòåëü ÀÍÕ ïðè Ïðàâèòåëüñòâå ÐÔ. Àâòîð êíèã: “Äåëîâîå ïèñüìî: ÷òî íóæíî çíàòü ñîñòàâèòåëþ”, “ßçûê è äåëîâîå îáùåíèå. Íîðìû. Ðèòîðèêà. Ýòèêåò”. Àâòîð ðÿäà ñòàòåé ïî ïðîáëåìàì áèçíåñ-êîììóíèêàöèé.

    Öåëè òðåíèíãà:
  • îçíàêîìèòüñÿ ñî ñïåöèôèêîé âçàèìîäåéñòâèÿ ñ VIP–êëèåíòàìè;

  • ïîëó÷èòü ïðàêòè÷åñêèå íàâûêè âåäåíèÿ äåëîâûõ ïåðåãîâîðîâ è äåëîâîé ïåðåïèñêè ñ VIP–êëèåíòàìè;

  • îâëàäåòü îñíîâíûìè íàâûêàìè ïóáëè÷íîãî âûñòóïëåíèÿ;

  • ïîäãîòîâêà ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûõ ïåðåãîâîðùèêîâ â ñèñòåìå VIP-îáùåíèÿ.
    • Ñîäåðæàíèå ïðîãðàììû:
    1. Ñîöèàëüíî-ñòàòóñíûå õàðàêòåðèñòèêè VIP-ïåðñîí, îòðàæàþùèåñÿ â ýòèêåòíîì îáùåíèè:

    1. Ñèñòåìà îáùåíèÿ: â ÷åì îñíîâíûå îòëè÷èÿ ìåæäó ïèñüìåííîé è óñòíîé ðå÷üþ?  ÷åì ñïåöèôèêà îôèöèàëüíîãî è íåîôèöèàëüíîãî îáùåíèÿ? ×òî âàæíî çíàòü î ïðàâèëàõ îáùåíèÿ íà ïðèåìàõ, ðàóòàõ, ïðåçåíòàöèÿõ?

    2. Ñîöèàëüíàÿ äèñòàíöèÿ è ýòèêåòíàÿ ìîäóëÿöèÿ ðå÷è. Êàê ïðàâèëüíî âûáðàòü äèñòàíöèþ, îáùàÿñü ñ VIP–êëèåíòàìè? Êàê óäåðæàòü ïîçèöèþ “îáùåíèå íà ðàâíûõ”? Êàê ãðàìîòíî èçìåíÿòü ñâîþ ðå÷ü ïðè èçìåíåíèè ñèòóàöèè îáùåíèÿ?

    3. Ðàçëè÷èÿ ïî ïðèçíàêó ïîëà è âîçðàñòà â çåðêàëå ýòèêåòà.

    2. ÂÝÄ è êðîññ-êóëüòóðíûå êîììóíèêàöèè â ðåæèìå VIP-îáùåíèÿ:

    1. Åâðîïåéñêèå òðàäèöèè è íàöèîíàëüíûå îñîáåííîñòè VIP-îáùåíèÿ;

    2. Âîñòî÷íûå ñèñòåìû ýòèêåòà è ðåàëüíîå îòðàæåíèå â íèõ ñîöèàëüíîãî ñòàòóñà.

    3. Ïîäãîòîâêà è ïðîâåäåíèå äåëîâûõ ïåðåãîâîðîâ:

    1. Èíñòðóìåíòû âîçäåéñòâèÿ íà àäðåñàòà. Êàê áûòü óáåäèòåëüíûì? Êàê äîáèâàòüñÿ ïîñòàâëåííûõ öåëåé? Êàê óïðàâëÿòü äèàëîãîì?

    2. Îñîáåííîñòè ïèñüìåííîé êîììóíèêàöèè â ñèñòåìå VIP-îáùåíèÿ. ×òî íóæíî çíàòü, ñîñòàâëÿÿ äåëîâîå ïèñüìî? ×òî íåîáõîäèìî çíàòü, ïîäïèñûâàÿ êîíòðàêò? Êàê èçáåæàòü íå÷èñòîïëîòíîé èãðû?

    3. Îñîáåííîñòè óñòíîé êîììóíèêàöèè â ñèñòåìå VIP-îáùåíèÿ. Êàê âûáðàòü âåðíóþ ñòðàòåãèþ âåäåíèÿ äåëîâûõ ïåðåãîâîðîâ, ó÷èòûâàÿ ñïåöèôèêó VIP-êëèåíòîâ?

    4. Ïóáëè÷íîå âûñòóïëåíèå: ñòðàòåãèè è òàêòèêè.  ÷åì îñîáåííîñòè âûñòóïëåíèÿ ïåðåä ïóáëèêîé? Êàê ãðàìîòíî ïîäãîòîâèòü âûñòóïëåíèå? Êàê ïðîèçâåñòè âïå÷àòëåíèå íà ñëóøàòåëÿ?

     çàâåðøåíèè ïðîãðàììû ó÷àñòíèêè ñìîãóò:
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    Òåë.: 921-5862, 928-4156, 928-4200, 928-5321

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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 9:10:19 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9436037B405 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5BA43FBD for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:10:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KHAENS058264 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:10:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1KHAEfI058263; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF2337B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from vsmi.ru (ns.vsmi.ru [217.23.84.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4050E43F93 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:12:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from info@volginfo.ru) Received: (qmail 53954 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 13:18:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO img.local) (192.168.0.1) by 192.168.0.50 with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 13:18:16 -0000 Message-Id: <200302201319.35837.info@volginfo.ru> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:19:35 +0300 From: "Denis N. Peplin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: docs/48482: using deprecated sysctl option in FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48482 >Category: docs >Synopsis: using deprecated sysctl option in FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Feb 20 09:10:13 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Denis N.Peplin >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p1 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD img.local 4.7-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p1 #0: Wed Nov 6 16:45:51 MSK 2002 sg@img.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/nKERN2 i386 >Description: from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT # sysctl -w vfs.usermount=1 and from man sysctl: The -w option has been deprecated and is silently ignored. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 9:10:20 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A554C37B406 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A6C43FBF for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:10:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KHAGNS058311 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:10:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1KHAGJ5058296; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:10:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:10:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302201710.h1KHAGJ5058296@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Ceri Davies Subject: Re: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. Reply-To: Ceri Davies Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48472; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri Davies To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:47:47 +0000 On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:10:06PM -0800, Ceri Davies wrote: > > Can you post some screenshots on a web-server somewhere ? > I can't reproduce this with Netscape 4.78. Alan has kindly provided screenshots, which are available at http://people.freebsd.org/~ceri/pr/48472/ Ceri -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 9:40: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFAD37B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723A043FA3 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:40:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KHe4NS064762 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:40:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1KHe4nl064761; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7275D37B408 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from free.ictu.ukrtel.net (ns.ictu.ukrtel.net [195.5.1.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9CF43FCB for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:33:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@freeman.org.ua) Received: from freeman.ukrtel.net (freeman.ukrtelecom.net [192.168.100.2]) by free.ictu.ukrtel.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KHXGwW062583 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:33:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from alex@freeman.org.ua) Received: from freeman.ukrtel.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freeman.ukrtel.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KHXGKs081758 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:33:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from alex@freeman.org.ua) Received: (from alex@localhost) by freeman.ukrtel.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1KHXGR4081757; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:33:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from alex) Message-Id: <200302201733.h1KHXGR4081757@freeman.ukrtel.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:33:16 +0200 (EET) From: Alexander Peresunko Reply-To: Alexander Peresunko To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/48490: mistake in the handbook (L18N chapter) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48490 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mistake in the handbook (L18N chapter) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Feb 20 09:40:03 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexander Peresunko >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: Ukrtelecom >Environment: System: FreeBSD freeman.ukrtelecom.net 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #2: Wed Jan 29 16:26:02 EET 2003 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FREEMAN i386 >Description: Handbook, chapter 14.3.4.1.2 Shell Startup File Method in the text: "Note: This method is not recommended because it requires a different setup for each possible login program chosen." I think author meen "shell program", not "login program". >How-To-Repeat: Read first sentence in the chapter 14.3.4.1.2 of handbook. >Fix: Patch is trivial: --- chapter.sgml.orig Thu Feb 20 19:18:38 2003 +++ chapter.sgml Thu Feb 20 19:19:02 2003 @@ -382,7 +382,7 @@ This method is not recommended because it requires a - different setup for each possible login program chosen. Use + different setup for each possible shell program chosen. Use the Login Class Method instead. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 10:44:43 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEB337B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:44:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5D343FD7; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:44:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <2003022018443800100bq6fse>; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:44:38 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.7/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KIibPi069092; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:44:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1KIibtX069091; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:44:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:44:37 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Dmitry Sivachenko Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: teTeX port update Message-ID: <20030220184437.GA68967@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030219165853.GA34987@fling-wing.demos.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030219165853.GA34987@fling-wing.demos.su> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote: > I am about to update teTeX port to version 2.0.1. > As far as I know, you use teTeX to build docs. >=20 > Could you please test the patch to be sure docs build is not broken > after update? >=20 > URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~demon/tetex.diff >=20 > (files/patch-::texk::web2c::web2c::web2c.y removed). That didn't give a whole lot of time for testing. :-p I tried doing a portupgrade (to 2.0.1) of my installed TeTeX port. This process seems to be hanging (or is taking an extremely long time) somewhere near the "make install" target...the last line on the screen here is: =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list I seem to remember running into some similar problem at some point in the past, but I can't remember what it was. Searching the list archives, as well as my own saved emails, hasn't yielded a clue. I'm going to mess around with this a little bit, but does this sound familiar to anybody? Thanks, Bruce. --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VSIV2MoxcVugUsMRAtTFAJ9cLwHR94NRPr3ikKA2N5D/YxtFSgCgyjxY bfvOBA378tfXV+P9WAgJlSo= =ZXxd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 11:52:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D0837B408; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675DF43FB1; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:52:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with ESMTP id <2003022019525405100dotu8e>; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:52:54 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.7/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KJqrPi031865; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:52:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1KJqr6Q031864; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:52:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:52:53 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Dmitry Sivachenko Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: teTeX port update Message-ID: <20030220195253.GA31602@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030219165853.GA34987@fling-wing.demos.su> <20030220184437.GA68967@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030220184437.GA68967@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I babbled: > I tried doing a portupgrade (to 2.0.1) of my installed TeTeX port. > This process seems to be hanging (or is taking an extremely long time) > somewhere near the "make install" target...the last line on the screen > here is: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list >=20 > I seem to remember running into some similar problem at some point in > the past, but I can't remember what it was. Searching the list > archives, as well as my own saved emails, hasn't yielded a clue. OK...one more time, since I seem to stumble on this every couple of years. If any of the TeX related environment variables are defined when you build this port, it causes the install target to hang. For a list of these, see the definition of envvars in ${PREFIX}/bin/texconfig. It'd be real nice if the port checked for these before building. Also, for those trying to render documentation project files in PDF or PS, one also needs to reinstall the print/jadetex port. Another note: The sizes of various tables as encoded in ${PREFIX}/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf seem to be somewhat larger than before. This might make the admonitions in ports/print/jadetex/pkg-message obsolete (in fact, some of the tables are now larger than what jadetex asks for). Not sure how this affects building documents. I'm running some tests against the release documentation now...will report more if anything interesting shows up. Bruce. --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VTIU2MoxcVugUsMRAsxlAJ9d08UzAksRmc+Y51CtQxMSJMsChwCeMHcF 1QnivibLdkDdB+kYTAIWyKM= =SWIi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 12: 0:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9C137B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694DD43F75 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KK07NS005160 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1KK07ZQ005159; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6E637B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:51:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F7143FBF for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:51:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pherman@frenchfries.net) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by darius.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h1KJpUw02798 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:51:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from frenchfries.net (da001d0246.lax-ca.osd.concentric.net [66.239.48.246]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id OAA22575; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by frenchfries.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AD2484B0F; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:50:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20030220195015.AD2484B0F@frenchfries.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 11:50:15 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Herman To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/48493: missing range information in arc4random() manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48493 >Category: docs >Synopsis: missing range information in arc4random() manpage >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Feb 20 12:00:06 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Paul Herman >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD mammoth.eat.frenchfries.net 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 25 23:29:57 PST 2003 pherman@mammoth.eat.frenchfries.net:/u02/obj/u01/src/sys/mammoth i386 >Description: The manpage for arc4random doesn't state the fact that the range is twice the traditional RAND_MAX. This can lead to erroneous results if used like the traditional rand()/random() functions. A short explanation of this fact, and a simple example should be added to the manpage. This was already discussed on -hackers. See archive for details. >How-To-Repeat: man arc4random >Fix: Index: arc4random.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /u02/ncvs/src/lib/libc/gen/arc4random.3,v retrieving revision 1.8.2.4 diff -u -r1.8.2.4 arc4random.3 --- arc4random.3 14 Dec 2001 18:33:50 -0000 1.8.2.4 +++ arc4random.3 20 Feb 2003 19:32:58 -0000 @@ -57,7 +57,13 @@ can be in about .if t 2\u\s71700\s10\d .if n (2**1700) -states. +states. The +.Fn arc4random +function returns pseudo-random numbers in the range of 0 to +.if t 2\u\s731\s10\d\(mi1, +.if n (2**31)\(mi1, +and therefore has twice the range of +.Dv RAND_MAX . .Pp The .Fn arc4random_stir @@ -73,6 +79,15 @@ since .Fn arc4random automatically initializes itself. +.Sh EXAMPLES +The following produces a drop-in replacement for the traditional +.Fn rand +and +.Fn random +functions using +.Fn arc4random : +.Bd -literal -offset indent +#define foo4random() (arc4random() % ((unsigned)RAND_MAX + 1)) .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr rand 3 , .Xr random 3 , >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 12:50:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1182237B406 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:50:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from barnes1.wustl.edu (barnes1.wustl.edu [128.252.68.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044B343FB1 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:50:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu) Received: by barnes1.wustl.edu (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5A61A5D28; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:50:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:50:19 -0600 From: Wayne M Barnes To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: EARLY.HTM Message-ID: <20030220205019.GA76690@barnes1.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear FreeBSD 5.0, Could you please say something about devfs? I followed the UPDATING instructions, and I wound up with a system that was single-user only, because I had no screens. I think there were no devices for ttyv1, etc. I suppose there is no MAKEDEV anymore for 5.0 ? Is this correct? If this is not a reasonable statement of my question, what would be? - Wayne -- Wayne M. Barnes, Ph.D. wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu Biochemistry Dept. 8231 fax: 253.369.3024 Washington Univ. Medical School ph: 314.362.3351 660 South Euclid Ave., St. Louis, MO 63110 http://barnes1.wustl.edu Just plain Taq is old tech anymore. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 13:40:23 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E41837B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from etaq.com (mail.etaq.com [66.80.150.158]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D307043F3F; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:40:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@etaq.com) Received: by etaq.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 9F10C6E0; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:42:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:42:09 -0600 From: Wayne To: Jason Barnes Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: devfs and UPDATING Message-ID: <20030220154209.A12996@etaq.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Jason, I think I was right about devfs being a new line in fstab! This may have allowed my laptop to stay 5.0; unfortunately, I had to regress it to 4.7 to get it to work again. The new line is: devfs /dev devfs rw 0 0 according to man devfs, posted at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=devfs&sektion=5&manpath=FreeBSD+5.0-RELEASE The man page does not say "Put this line into /etc/fstab", but it looks like an fstab line to me. If this is correct, I wish they would put this information into UPDATING. I wonder if it is harmless to have the line in /etc/fstab while running FreeBSD 4.7. -- Wayne M Barnes wayne@etaq.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 14: 3:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333F737B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763DF43FBD; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:03:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 769FF536E; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:03:47 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Wayne Cc: Jason Barnes , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devfs and UPDATING From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:03:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20030220154209.A12996@etaq.com> (Wayne's message of "Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:42:09 -0600") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090014 (Oort Gnus v0.14) Emacs/21.2 (i386--freebsd) References: <20030220154209.A12996@etaq.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wayne writes: > I think I was right about devfs being a new line in fstab! > This may have allowed my laptop to stay 5.0; unfortunately, I had > to regress it to 4.7 to get it to work again. Don't use devfs on 4.x. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 14: 6:33 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87BF37B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-19-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997E043FB1 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:06:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KM6Taw050279; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:06:29 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KM6Tm0056484; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:06:29 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1KM6Scm056483; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:06:28 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:06:28 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Garrett Wollman Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [mirror@xyz.lcs.mit.edu: xyz.lcs.mit.edu 6-hour mirror update] Message-ID: <20030220220628.GJ6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200209031754.g83HsZUp010035@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fjX3cMESU3XgGmZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200209031754.g83HsZUp010035@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --2fjX3cMESU3XgGmZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:54:35PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Is it really necessary to touch more than a thousand files with such > frequency, particularly when the source files have not changed at all? Is this a problem, when using rsync? > For that matter, is it really necessary that there *be* nine different > versions of the same document? I don't know. I have no stats on the relative popularity of the various formats when it comes to downloads. HTML, split HTML, PS, and PDF are probably fundamental formats. Plain text was asked for numerous times. RTF is for people who are thinking about FreeBSD, and want to (for whatever reason) read the docs in Word (or similar). I know, it sounds weird (why not just use PDF?), but that's what was requested multiple times on -doc. PDB, I'll grant, might be a bit superfluous. Then again. . . Multiply that by three for the Gzip, Bzip, and Zip version. Can we remove any of them? Probably not. Gzip and Zip both have their uses, and the BZip format is generally shaves a multiple-tens of K when used. Then there's the pkg_add'able versions, which are just good sense. On the face of it, I'd say there are pretty compelling reasons for keeping all of them. But if anyone's got hard stats I'm all ears. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --2fjX3cMESU3XgGmZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VVFjk6gHZCw343URAtzRAKCIJKbE6r1qLa5OmfRnxMnA3f16BgCgikgL f0NKc5Lx7FztKfRr9jGpaxc= =UKgC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fjX3cMESU3XgGmZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 14: 9: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8654737B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-19-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C858B43FEC; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:08:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KM8kaw050282; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:08:46 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KM8km0058073; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:08:46 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1KM8iSM058058; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:08:44 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:08:44 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: Nik Clayton , Marc Fonvieille , Pat Lathem , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Copying of Developer's Guide Message-ID: <20030220220844.GK6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> <20030216214612.GA1463@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030219161238.GF6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="F55Y67F01HNW3AgB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --F55Y67F01HNW3AgB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:40:44PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Nik Clayton writes: >=20 > > Just to be explicit, we could slightly expand point 2; > >=20 > > 2. Redistribution in compiled form (...), or in print, must > > reproduce, ... >=20 > That's explicit, but it's not the explicit license asked for. > Reproduction and public distribution are separate copyrights under US > copyright law (as is derivation). Printers might not be willing to find > a license to "reproduce in printed form" in the word "use". >=20 > According to the OP, the conditions are clearly being met, so changing > them might be insufficient. It's the first paragraph that seems to be > the stumbling block. >=20 > I'd like to propose a fix, but IANAL. Me either. But does 2. Reproduction or redistribution in print or compiled form, must ... sound better? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --F55Y67F01HNW3AgB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VVHsk6gHZCw343URAkZNAKCVwLetFT2hXp05jepfoQoCpwS3vgCghrdA 1eQrhjJmFy6S4+xtX6BxGqo= =eMV4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --F55Y67F01HNW3AgB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 14:10:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABD937B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-19-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6737343FBD; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:10:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KMANaw050372; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:10:23 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KMANm0058376; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:10:23 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1KMANci058375; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:10:23 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:10:23 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Dmitry Sivachenko , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: teTeX port update Message-ID: <20030220221023.GL6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20030219165853.GA34987@fling-wing.demos.su> <20030220184437.GA68967@intruder.bmah.org> <20030220195253.GA31602@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yaPAUYI/0vT2YKpA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030220195253.GA31602@intruder.bmah.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --yaPAUYI/0vT2YKpA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 11:52:53AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Another note: The sizes of various tables as encoded in > ${PREFIX}/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf seem to be somewhat larger than > before. This might make the admonitions in > ports/print/jadetex/pkg-message obsolete (in fact, some of the tables > are now larger than what jadetex asks for). Not sure how this affects > building documents. I'm running some tests against the release > documentation now...will report more if anything interesting shows up. I'll check this in detail at the weekend, unless someone beats me to it. It'll be interesting to see if this lets teTeX build the PDF version of the Handbook again. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --yaPAUYI/0vT2YKpA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VVJOk6gHZCw343URAs3sAJ9QJRu7owdsN5Fp94ICrFEllwdbcgCdFs6B +5WC+cEJsswTcg1o8mU+AHo= =1K+S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yaPAUYI/0vT2YKpA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 14:13:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F95037B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-19-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D683543FBD for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:13:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KMDsaw050375; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:13:54 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KMDsm0058736; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:13:54 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1KMDst8058735; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:13:54 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:13:54 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Marco Trentini Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken images? Message-ID: <20030220221354.GM6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3E54AD5C.1020209@remotelab.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hnsKUeImFCk/igEn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E54AD5C.1020209@remotelab.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --hnsKUeImFCk/igEn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 11:26:36AM +0100, Marco Trentini wrote: > Alex Dupre ha scritto: > >Wednesday, February 19, 2003, 9:17:57 PM, you wrote: > > > >MT> Hello, I have noted which the handbook and any articles in rtf-pdb= =20 > >formats MT> (take from ftp.freebsd.org) have broken images. > > > >MT> Is it right? > > > >I think you would mean that translated documentation, built with images > >taken from the en_US original tree, doesn't contain such images in > >formats like pdf, rtf, pdb. This issue doesn't appear with html, > >html-split, txt. Right? > >If so, yes, I've just noticed it. (See the vinum chapter of the French > >Handbook for example, pdf version, no images) > >How can we fix it, without copying the images in the other trees? >=20 > All right, but the rtf-pdb issue concern both the original documentation = and > translated documentation. IIRC (and it's been a while) the toolchain doesn't properly support images in RTF. I've sort of swept this under the carpet and hoped it would go away :-) A couple of solutions spring to mind. We could make the RTF files use the ASCII art instead of the images, which would work. Alternatively (and prompted by the earlier message from Garrett), we could drop support for RTF. I have no idea how popular a format it is (although the fact that you're complaining about the lack of images indicates that at least some people are using it). As for the PDB format, I don't know. Images certainly used to work there. I'll try and dig my Palm out over the weekend and have a look. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --hnsKUeImFCk/igEn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VVMhk6gHZCw343URAliBAJ9kenmnUMuXsgw3wNxepaur1g3HggCfVSw+ 41b2vDjsCtWP7vFLk/qXty4= =HrNc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hnsKUeImFCk/igEn-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 14:23:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3192937B405 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-19-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9467A43F3F for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:23:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KMNRaw050485; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:23:27 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KMNRm0060025; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:23:27 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1KMNQQj060020; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:23:26 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:23:26 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jim Mock Cc: Kerry Davis , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: French? Message-ID: <20030220222326.GN6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <022801c2d856$1d525fc0$0200000a@desktop> <1B2B9CB1-446E-11D7-BF65-000393460DB2@soupnazi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Zl+NncWK+U5aSfTo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1B2B9CB1-446E-11D7-BF65-000393460DB2@soupnazi.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Zl+NncWK+U5aSfTo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 04:56:12PM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > Look at the URL. You're requesting the English document. >=20 > http://www.freebsd-fr.org/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html = =20 > is in French. Here's a thought. When installing the docs, create an additional language code, called 'local'. So /path/to/doc/local/books/handbook/index.html works. Make 'local' a symlink to whatever the local language code is (defaulting to English if not set). Then, on the web site, use /doc/local/.../ to refer to anything that's not explicitly supposed to be mentioned in the local language. Hmm. That'll break when linking to documents that haven't been translated in to the local language yet, because the files won't exist. That could be solved with a more sophisticated link farm generator that knew to create symlinks to fall back content as necessary. /me ponders a bit. Another idea I'll float (which also solves the 'why are some pages index.html, others book.html, and still others article.html?' question) would be to rename the top-level file for html-split documents to something like top.html (eww, nasty name, but it'll do). 'index.html' is then a generic document that says something like: This document is available in a number of formats and languages. Please pick one. [ Repeat the above in 'n' languages ] English (en_US.ISO8859-1) [HTML] [Split] [PS] [PDF] [TXT] [RTF] French (fr_FR.ISO8859-1) [HTML] [Split] [PS] [PDF] [TXT] [RTF] ... But that's kind of ugly too, but it does make it explicit. Or maybe it's time to bite the bullet and say something like 'Mirrors must run Apache, here's the config file fragment you need for the part of your website that's the mirror' and go from there? Random musings. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --Zl+NncWK+U5aSfTo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VVVek6gHZCw343URAk+VAJ4tkLZgVqunEezekzBoPmh8m2Pk/ACfevg8 YffhGG1QRFwvaNCEYsLmS00= =DtYx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Zl+NncWK+U5aSfTo-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 14:30:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1D437B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A74043F93 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:30:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KMU9NS046446 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:30:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1KMU95J046445; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:30:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:30:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302202230.h1KMU95J046445@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. Reply-To: Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48472; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton To: Alan Larson Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:28:42 +0000 --B3NBd8mrXZtPJEYR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 02:36:25PM -0800, Alan Larson wrote: > The web page: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.= html > prints illustrations on top of text. Can you try this again in Netscape, but with Netscape configured to ignore the cascading stylesheet, and see if the problem persists. Ta. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --B3NBd8mrXZtPJEYR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VVaak6gHZCw343URAor0AJsGmCxh6sepfIQ627hltt1fUcbyPQCfWGPQ qC/xHgGzmvPtcNiMeB87Ku0= =MdaY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --B3NBd8mrXZtPJEYR-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 14:46:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011CA37B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4E843F93 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:46:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AC2D721066; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:46:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:46:40 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: Ceri Davies , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, marcs@draenor.org Subject: Re: Update to Dialup firewalling with FreeBSD... Message-ID: <20030220224640.GV79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <20030217074811.GN27077@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030220094328.GA40442@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030220094328.GA40442@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > This is a pretty simple update that makes the firewall rules used for > > dialup machines significantly more secure. If there are no > > objections, I'd like to commit this in a week. -sc > > Is the one you committed already ? Yup, likely. I'm actually re-reading through that article removing the use of the 1st and 2nd person. > Looks like your reverse DNS is fixed ;-) Cool! My arin delegation must have finally gone through... 'bout time. -sc -- Sean Chittenden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 14:51:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A65837B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9345643FD7; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:51:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KMp8bs005758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:51:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1KMp8ix005755; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:51:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 17:51:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302202251.h1KMp8ix005755@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> From: Garrett Wollman To: hubs@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [mirror@xyz.lcs.mit.edu: xyz.lcs.mit.edu 6-hour mirror update] In-Reply-To: <20030220220628.GJ6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200209031754.g83HsZUp010035@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20030220220628.GJ6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 < said: >> [I wrote:] >> Is it really necessary to touch more than a thousand files with such >> frequency, particularly when the source files have not changed at all? > Is this a problem, when using rsync? It doesn't matter what protocol one is using; the problem is one of burying administrators under a blizzard of irrelevant changes. I rarely ever look at the mirror reports for the period when the docs are updated because I have to plow through 1000 lines of crap to see anything I might remotely care about. >> For that matter, is it really necessary that there *be* nine different >> versions of the same document? > I don't know. I have no stats on the relative popularity of the various > formats when it comes to downloads. Over the past five days, almost all of the FreeBSD/doc/ activity on my FTP server is from people using FTP-based mirror software. I see three requests over that period from non-bulk downloaders (identified as anyone who doesn't get all four compression formats): /ftp/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.pdf.zip /ftp/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.pdf.zip /ftp/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.html-split.tar.zip The Web server does not see any activity over a similar period for doc. > HTML, split HTML, PS, and PDF are probably fundamental formats. I see no need for more than one HTML version. PostScript and PDF are (in this particular case, given how they are generated) semantically equivalent; having the PostScript version serves no useful purpose. > Plain text was asked for numerous times. There is some value in the plain text for people with traditional FTP clients who just want to use `more'. > RTF is for people who are thinking about FreeBSD, and want to (for > whatever reason) read the docs in Word (or similar). I know, it sounds > weird (why not just use PDF?), but that's what was requested multiple > times on -doc. Must... resist... fist... of... death.... > Multiply that by three for the Gzip, Bzip, and Zip version. Can we > remove any of them? Probably not. Gzip and Zip both have their uses, > and the BZip format is generally shaves a multiple-tens of K when used. gzip and zip are (effectively) the same format. If there's only one file in the ZIP archive, gunzip can deal with it just fine. I see no evidence that the bzip(2) format is being used at all, and the resources wasted by putting it on all the mirrors are probably more than it would save a user looking for a document (most of whom are going to get it from the Web anyway). > Then there's the pkg_add'able versions, which are just good sense. Well, they don't make any sense at all to me, so you'll have to justify that a bit more. - -GAWollman -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VVZJI+eG6b7tlG4RAsPmAKCAEMP96QMmOWF8M7hw45GU9M5tUwCeOivK m6Bc0sgEjYCN0iwuKvoeM9s= =trHX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h1KMROjk005528.1045780044/khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 15:11:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530E837B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:11:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A5443F93; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:11:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <2003022023112100200dbj43e>; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:11:22 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.7/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KNB8Pi040330; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:11:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1KNB8rB040329; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:11:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:11:07 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Dmitry Sivachenko , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: teTeX port update Message-ID: <20030220231107.GA40255@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030219165853.GA34987@fling-wing.demos.su> <20030220184437.GA68967@intruder.bmah.org> <20030220195253.GA31602@intruder.bmah.org> <20030220221023.GL6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030220221023.GL6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 11:52:53AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > Another note: The sizes of various tables as encoded in > > ${PREFIX}/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf seem to be somewhat larger than > > before. This might make the admonitions in > > ports/print/jadetex/pkg-message obsolete (in fact, some of the tables > > are now larger than what jadetex asks for). Not sure how this affects > > building documents. I'm running some tests against the release > > documentation now...will report more if anything interesting shows up. >=20 > I'll check this in detail at the weekend, unless someone beats me to it. >=20 > It'll be interesting to see if this lets teTeX build the PDF version of > the Handbook again. Actually, it does! Here's what I did: =20 1. Fix up two config variables in texmf.cnf: hash_extra =3D 100000 save_size =3D 15000 2. Get rid of the hack in the Handbook's Makefile to derive the PDF file from the PS file. 3. Build it. I use an OpenJade-based toolchain, so I got all of the PDF bookmarks one would normally expect, and so forth. Quite nice. :-) I guess we should let the new teTeX port settle a bit before switching the Handbook to native PDF generation, huh? Bruce. PS. Is there any reason we can't just switch over to OpenJade (as opposed to Jade) by default? OpenJade is already the default for non-i386 architectures. --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VWCL2MoxcVugUsMRAjgGAJ9hPF4XHUCHK0xLyljNS5YCQf2tHACg7D9v 25FkMS1I95GtwxdpO0ZSFr0= =Y4yY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 15:30: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7899C37B401 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:30:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2505743FAF for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:30:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1KNU7NS061857 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:30:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1KNU6wP061856; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:30:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:30:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302202330.h1KNU6wP061856@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Alan Larson Subject: Re: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. Reply-To: Alan Larson Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48472; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Alan Larson To: larson@eng.paix.net, nik@FreeBSD.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:21:19 -0800 (PST) Turning of style sheets seems to make it display, so that apparently is what is wrong. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 15:55:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C29C37B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:55:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E6C43FAF; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 16025A804; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:55:45 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F025425; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:55:45 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:55:45 +1100 (EST) From: Andrew To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42312: make release broken without full ports In-Reply-To: <200302200506.h1K56oOY058790@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20030221104841.V93921-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > Is it OK if I close this? I think it's something that can (should) > be worked around by making sure that a release gets built with a > ports tree with a tag that's consistent with the release being built > (as described in my first followup). Sorry I missed your original follow up. The machine has been happily building 4.7 releases with ports from HEAD so I'm happy for the problem to be closed. Thanks, Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 16:12:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBF937B401; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F190A43F3F; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:12:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <200302210012460020033bn1e>; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:12:47 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.7/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1L0CkPi040701; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:12:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1L0Ckh0040700; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:12:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:12:45 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Andrew Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42312: make release broken without full ports Message-ID: <20030221001245.GA40682@intruder.bmah.org> References: <200302200506.h1K56oOY058790@freefall.freebsd.org> <20030221104841.V93921-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030221104841.V93921-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Andrew wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Bruce A. Mah wrote: >=20 > > Is it OK if I close this? I think it's something that can (should) > > be worked around by making sure that a release gets built with a > > ports tree with a tag that's consistent with the release being built > > (as described in my first followup). >=20 > Sorry I missed your original follow up. The machine has been happily > building 4.7 releases with ports from HEAD so I'm happy for the problem to > be closed. =2E..and they all lived happily ever after. :-) OK, I'll close the PR then. Thanks! Bruce. --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VW792MoxcVugUsMRAiT7AJ41BAHx6RLHjXYbdG4trYSSxzWeMQCeNDyK ZsxA+iHGPigaBy0OqKzywls= =PuvB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Feb 20 16:13:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C123E37B405; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:13:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA2143F85; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:13:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (bmah@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1L0DsNS075282; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:13:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1L0Dr3o075278; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:13:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:13:53 -0800 (PST) From: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-Id: <200302210013.h1L0Dr3o075278@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@ugh.net.au, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42312: make release broken without full ports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: make release broken without full ports State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Thu Feb 20 16:12:51 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Closed by consent of originator. For the audit trail: > Sorry I missed your original follow up. The machine has been happily > building 4.7 releases with ports from HEAD so I'm happy for the problem to > be closed. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42312 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 0: 8:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B548337B401 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B23243FA3 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:08:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 16820 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2003 08:03:53 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 21 Feb 2003 08:03:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 1697 invoked by uid 1000); 21 Feb 2003 08:06:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:06:52 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jim Mock , Kerry Davis , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: French? Message-ID: <20030221080651.GR518@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Nik Clayton , Jim Mock , Kerry Davis , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <022801c2d856$1d525fc0$0200000a@desktop> <1B2B9CB1-446E-11D7-BF65-000393460DB2@soupnazi.org> <20030220222326.GN6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Mjqg7Yu+0hL22rav" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030220222326.GN6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Mjqg7Yu+0hL22rav Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:23:26PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 04:56:12PM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > > Look at the URL. You're requesting the English document. > >=20 > > http://www.freebsd-fr.org/doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html= =20 > > is in French. >=20 > Here's a thought. [snip] > /me ponders a bit. >=20 > Another idea I'll float (which also solves the 'why are some pages [snip] > Or maybe it's time to bite the bullet and say something like 'Mirrors > must run Apache, here's the config file fragment you need for the part > of your website that's the mirror' and go from there? I'll have to think a little about your two ideas above, but please don't go this way (Apache only). I've been experimenting with Boa a lot lately, and in my experience, it works just *great* for static content. Of course, Boa, just like other webservers out there, supports URL rewriting, albeit with a different syntax, so this just might be an issue of maintaining several configuration snippets, which may not be too hard. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 4:25:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8033D37B401 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 04:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from horkos.telenet-ops.be (horkos.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2A243FB1 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 04:25:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@sinix-soft.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by horkos.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C77483C9D for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:25:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from sinix (d515286B8.kabel.telenet.be [81.82.134.184]) by horkos.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7AE8412A for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:25:27 +0100 (CET) From: "Sick`" To: Subject: ipsec question Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:24:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c2d9a4$3d98e750$0200a8c0@sinix> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I was wondering, When reading the second edition of the freebsd handbook, on section 10.9.1 doesn't host A needs: spdadd 10.6.7.8 10.2.3.4 any -P in ipsec ah/transport/10.6.7.8-10.2.3.4/require ; spdadd 10.6.7.8 10.2.3.4 any -P in ipsec esp/transport/10.6.7.8-10.2.3.4/require ; and host B: spdadd 10.6.7.8 10.2.3.4 any -P out ipsec ah/transport/10.6.7.8-10.2.3.4/require ; ? I also noticed that in the second edition handbook from freebsd mall there is a mistake in 10.9.4 with Host B The picture says fec0:0:0:1::2 while it should be fec0:0:0:2::2 I hope to receive some feedback soon Thanks in advance Greetz Jimmy Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 8:37:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0437537B401 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust240.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2973E43F75 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mGBK-0006YO-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:37:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:37:50 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: 5-Stable Roadmap and the docs Message-ID: <20030221163750.GA25075@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A couple of points for consideration in this mail. With the 5-Stable Roadmap, that most of us will have read by now, in mind, specifically this bit: The manual pages, Handbook, and FAQ should be free from content specific to FreeBSD 4.x, i.e. all text should be equally applicable to FreeBSD 5.x, Since at the moment RELENG_4 and CURRENT have some disparities, I think we have three options: i) Branch the doc/ tree; ii) Abandon the "doc/ reflects life with -stable" approach; iii) Muddle through adding s, etc and get ourselves in a state. Which one should we be going for ? Also, I think now is a good time to kill all 2.x and 3.x stuff from the docs. I could be convinced that 3.x should stay - I'm unshakeable on 2.x, but that doesn't mean I'm about to barge ahead and do it. Discuss. Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 12: 0:19 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F7437B401 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B135543FE1 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:00:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1LK0FNS053345 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:00:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1LK0FVE053344; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:00:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D65437B401 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl [194.29.178.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5532C43FBD for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:52:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from G.Czaplinski@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl) Received: from localhost (localhost.mini.pw.edu.pl [127.0.0.1]) by prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105CD7D328 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:52:23 +0100 (CET) Received: by prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl (Postfix, from userid 1368) id 6C3427D009; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:52:18 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20030221195218.6C3427D009@prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:52:18 +0100 (CET) From: Grzegorz Czaplinski Reply-To: Grzegorz Czaplinski To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/48545: The information in Handbook regarding "Duplicating Audio CDs" is incomplete Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48545 >Category: docs >Synopsis: The information in Handbook regarding "Duplicating Audio CDs" is incomplete >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Feb 21 12:00:15 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Grzegorz Czaplinski >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE i386 >Organization: NONE >Environment: System: FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #14: Thu Feb 6 00:03:53 CET 2003 rgregory@tahoe.acn.waw.pl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TAHOE >Description: The information in Handbook, chaper: 12 Storage, section: 12.5 Creating and Using Optical Media (CDs & DVDs) is incomplete. There is subsection, 12.5.5 Duplicating Audio CDs which states: "Make sure the appropriate files exist in /dev. # cd /dev # sh MAKEDEV acd0t99 Note: In FreeBSD 5.0, devfs(5) will automatically create and manage entries in /dev for you, so it is not necessary to use MAKEDEV." and this is true but the next paragraph states: "2. Extract each track using dd(1). You must also use a specific block size when extracting the files. # dd if=/dev/acd0t1 of=track1.cdr bs=2352 # dd if=/dev/acd0t2 of=track2.cdr bs=2352 ... " Actually devfs(5) will create /dev/acd0t01 and /dev/acd0t02 .... devices. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Substitute /dev/acd0t1 with /dev/acd0t01 and /dev/acd0t2 with /dev/acd0t02. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 12:46:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6471037B405; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:46:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from crf-consulting.co.uk (pc-80-194-99-19-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [80.194.99.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C009543FBD; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:46:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@crf-consulting.co.uk) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (clan.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.20]) by crf-consulting.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1LKkpaw062533; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:46:51 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin) Received: from clan.nothing-going-on.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1LKkom0039266; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:46:50 GMT (envelope-from nik@clan.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by clan.nothing-going-on.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h1LKkovR039265; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:46:50 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:46:50 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Ceri Davies Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5-Stable Roadmap and the docs Message-ID: <20030221204650.GP6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20030221163750.GA25075@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fjEAjMKpll6GDq3U" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030221163750.GA25075@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --fjEAjMKpll6GDq3U Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 04:37:50PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > Since at the moment RELENG_4 and CURRENT have some disparities, I think we > have three options: >=20 > i) Branch the doc/ tree; > > ii) Abandon the "doc/ reflects life with -stable" approach; >=20 > iii) Muddle through adding s, etc and get ourselves in a state. >=20 > Which one should we be going for ? (i) is likely to be a pain to manage. I don't think (ii) is realistic, given that we're not suggesting that people migrate en masse to 5.0 yet. Which leaves (iii)... > Also, I think now is a good time to kill all 2.x and 3.x stuff from > the docs. I could be convinced that 3.x should stay - I'm unshakeable > on 2.x, but that doesn't mean I'm about to barge ahead and do it. 2.x can go. I wouldn't personally lose sleep if we removed information that was solely pertinent to 3.x either. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --fjEAjMKpll6GDq3U Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+VpA5k6gHZCw343URAsKSAKCLwuJ/vikbhu3ZQFk1iyMI9VtO+wCeL96s 2QzTG+bL6+Ql+Ak0uvwmC8U= =B+6e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fjEAjMKpll6GDq3U-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 13:10: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A625B37B406 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF8843FDD for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:10:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1LLA4NS075435 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:10:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1LLA45d075434; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:10:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:10:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302212110.h1LLA45d075434@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. Reply-To: Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48472; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton To: Alan Larson Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48472: Documentation unreadable. Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:03:34 +0000 --aNvCJ41Feu8IgPyB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 03:21:19PM -0800, Alan Larson wrote: > Turning of style sheets seems to make it display, so that apparently > is what is wrong. OK. As far as I know, there's nothing wrong with the stylesheets from a standards point of view, so this is probably a bug with Netscape's=20 handling of stylesheets. Would you be able to spend some time commenting out sections of the stylesheets to see if you can narrow down whatever it is that's causing the problem for you? 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NB:you can include you private phone when replying for direct contact on this arrangment -- _______________________________________________ Get your free movie2000 email from http://www.twinkle.com.hk Powered by Instant Portal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 16:17: 0 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736B137B401; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2234F43FE0; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown[12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <2003022200165500200sa6k6e>; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:16:55 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1M0FX5F009411; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:15:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h1M0FMfd009408; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:15:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Copying of Developer's Guide References: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> <20030216214612.GA1463@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030219161238.GF6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030220220844.GK6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 21 Feb 2003 16:15:22 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20030220220844.GK6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton writes: > > > 2. Redistribution in compiled form (...), or in print, must > > > reproduce, ... [...] > Me either. But does > > 2. Reproduction or redistribution in print or compiled form, must > ... > > sound better? Yes, BUT... You ought to be a GNU laywer; you've made it sound like you've added the freedom to print, while you've actually only removed some freedoms (namely, at least, the freedom to reproduce without a copyright notice). These conditions must apply, as-is, even to a derivative which is put under a license which does not permit printing; that's one of the main features of BSD-like licenses. Adding the printing permission to only the permission part of the license would allow it to be omitted cleanly (along with any or all other parts of the permission statement) when someone licensed a derivative differently. There's a certain asymmetry to the new version which might not be what you want. It's unclear whether printed source files fall under the first condition or the second condition. The "plurality" of the two conditions now differ. As usual, I wonder whether "and" or "or" should be used; but, as usual, either leaves it subject to misinterpretation; I'm glad IANAL. With or without the change, it sounds slightly nonsensical to have "Redistributions...must reproduce"; one shouldn't have to reproduce anything to redistribute an existing copy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 17:43:43 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D304337B401; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:43:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4890943FDF; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:43:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr364-a26.otenet.gr [195.167.109.58]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1M1ha2O002869; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 03:43:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1M1XSOA018776; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 03:42:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1LJjQnq056830; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:45:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:45:26 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Copying of Developer's Guide Message-ID: <20030221194526.GA51841@gothmog.gr> References: <3E4FE9AC.9050308@ivestnw.net> <20030216214612.GA1463@nosferatu.blackend.org> <20030219161238.GF6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20030220220844.GK6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030220220844.GK6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton writes: > Just to be explicit, we could slightly expand point 2; > > 2. Redistribution in compiled form (...), or in print, must > reproduce, ... On 2003-02-20 22:08, Nik Clayton wrote: > ... does > > 2. Reproduction or redistribution in print or compiled form, must > ... > > sound better? Yep. I like this a lot. Now, if only we could get someone with more knonwledge about law & stuff read through this and see if there is anything else weirdos^W^H someone might ask :-P To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 17:50:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E020D37B401 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:50:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E78A43FD7 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:50:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1M1o9NS046759 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:50:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1M1o9lE046749; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:50:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:50:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302220150.h1M1o9lE046749@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/48482: using deprecated sysctl option in FAQ Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48482; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Denis N. Peplin" Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/48482: using deprecated sysctl option in FAQ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:49:20 +0200 On 2003-02-20 13:19, "Denis N. Peplin" wrote: > from > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT > # sysctl -w vfs.usermount=1 > > and from man sysctl: > The -w option has been deprecated and is silently ignored. Well, just to be on the safe side here, since the FAQ is supposed to document stuff for previous versions too, can we leave it there? Or perhaps, add a small note that "versions of FreeBSD newer than 4.4 don't need -w to work". NOTE: I haven't checked when -w was deprecated on the 4.X branch, but we can do that later, if this looks a nice idea, I guess. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 17:55:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC61737B401; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:55:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B9843F3F; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:55:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.7/8.12.7) with SMTP id h1M1tA9h004742; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:55:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:55:21 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48482: using deprecated sysctl option in FAQ Message-Id: <20030221205521.2b41519d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200302220150.h1M1o9lE046749@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200302220150.h1M1o9lE046749@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.9claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:50:09 -0800 (PST) Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/48482; it has been noted by > GNATS. > > From: Giorgos Keramidas > To: "Denis N. Peplin" > Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: docs/48482: using deprecated sysctl option in FAQ > Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 21:49:20 +0200 > > On 2003-02-20 13:19, "Denis N. Peplin" wrote: > > from > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT > > # sysctl -w vfs.usermount=1 > > > > and from man sysctl: > > The -w option has been deprecated and is silently ignored. > > Well, just to be on the safe side here, since the FAQ is supposed to > document stuff for previous versions too, can we leave it there? Or > perhaps, add a small note that "versions of FreeBSD newer than 4.4 > don't need -w to work". > > NOTE: I haven't checked when -w was deprecated on the 4.X branch, but > we can do that later, if this looks a nice idea, I guess. > My 3 day old RELENG_4 build has the same thing as the HEAD version of sysctl(8). So basicly its gone, I don't have a cvs history for you, but if we are following 4.8 then this should be probly be removed. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 19:20: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9745237B401 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DC343FE9 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:20:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1M3K7NS072028 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:20:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1M3K7uV072027; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:20:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:20:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302220320.h1M3K7uV072027@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/48482: using deprecated sysctl option in FAQ Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48482; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Rhodes Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48482: using deprecated sysctl option in FAQ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 05:12:30 +0200 On 2003-02-21 20:55, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:50:09 -0800 (PST) > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Well, just to be on the safe side here, since the FAQ is supposed to > > document stuff for previous versions too, can we leave it there? Or > > perhaps, add a small note that "versions of FreeBSD newer than 4.4 > > don't need -w to work". > > My 3 day old RELENG_4 build has the same thing as the HEAD version of > sysctl(8). So basicly its gone, I don't have a cvs history for you, > but if we are following 4.8 then this should be probly be removed. Looking through the CVS logs, -w was marked as deprecated in 1.32 of sysctl.c which was later merged as 1.25.2.5. The oldest release that was branched *after* that point was 4.4-REL. Since this release is barely than 1.5 year old, I would like a note to see added instead of the -w option being simply removed from the docs. We should really support as many releases as possible in our documentation, otherwise the note at the beginning of the FAQ is a blatant lie. This is the FAQ for FreeBSD versions 2.X, 3.X, and 4.X. All entries are assumed to be relevant to FreeBSD 2.0.5 and later, unless otherwise noted. Does something like the following look ok? %%% Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.511 diff -u -r1.511 book.sgml --- book.sgml 19 Feb 2003 07:25:18 -0000 1.511 +++ book.sgml 22 Feb 2003 03:11:17 -0000 @@ -3960,6 +3960,13 @@ &prompt.root; sysctl -w kern.timecounter.method=1 + + The option of &man.sysctl.8; is + deprecated and silently ignored in &os; 4.4-RELEASE and all + newer versions. You can safely ommit it when setting options + with sysctl as shown above. + + This means a performance impact, but considering the cause of this problem, you probably will not notice. If the problem persists, keep the sysctl set to one and set the %%% - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 19:30:10 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA40E37B401 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4929643FAF for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1M3U6NS074042 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1M3U6lF074041; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:30:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:30:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200302220330.h1M3U6lF074041@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/48482: using deprecated sysctl option in FAQ Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/48482; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/48482: using deprecated sysctl option in FAQ Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 22:26:04 -0500 On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 05:12:30 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Looking through the CVS logs, -w was marked as deprecated in 1.32 of > sysctl.c which was later merged as 1.25.2.5. The oldest release that > was branched *after* that point was 4.4-REL. Since this release is > barely than 1.5 year old, I would like a note to see added instead of > the -w option being simply removed from the docs. We should really > support as many releases as possible in our documentation, otherwise > the note at the beginning of the FAQ is a blatant lie. I think a recent post from Nik to Ceri spoke about removing support for the 2.X releases from the documentation effort. But words differ from actions :) > > This is the FAQ for FreeBSD versions 2.X, 3.X, and 4.X. All > entries are assumed to be relevant to FreeBSD 2.0.5 and later, > unless otherwise noted. > > Does something like the following look ok? > > %%% > Index: book.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.511 > diff -u -r1.511 book.sgml > --- book.sgml 19 Feb 2003 07:25:18 -0000 1.511 > +++ book.sgml 22 Feb 2003 03:11:17 -0000 > @@ -3960,6 +3960,13 @@ > > &prompt.root; sysctl -w > kern.timecounter.method=1 > > + > + The option of &man.sysctl.8; is > + deprecated and silently ignored in &os; 4.4-RELEASE and > all+ newer versions. You can safely ommit it when setting > options+ with sysctl as shown above. > + > + > This means a performance impact, but considering the > cause > of this problem, you probably will not notice. If the > problem persists, keep the sysctl set to one and set the > %%% > This looks good here, but I want to ask a quick question on note. All the times I add a tag, I follow it with the tag, is this correct, incorrect, not matter? I would really like to follow a `style' and just have not noticed a pattern as of yet. -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Feb 21 20:23:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BDE37B401; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:23:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E4643FBF; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:23:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b178.otenet.gr [212.205.244.186]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1M4N72O023595; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 06:23:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1M4MeCZ001642; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 06:22:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1M4MeIR001641; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 06:22:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 06:22:40 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/48482: using deprecated sysctl option in FAQ Message-ID: <20030222042240.GB1301@gothmog.gr> References: <200302220150.h1M1o9lE046749@freefall.freebsd.org> <20030221205521.2b41519d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030222031230.GA28308@gothmog.gr> <20030221222604.3dfae305.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030221222604.3dfae305.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-02-21 22:26, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > + > > + The option of &man.sysctl.8; is > > + deprecated and silently ignored in &os; 4.4-RELEASE and all > > + newer versions. You can safely ommit it when setting options > > + with sysctl as shown above. > > + > > This looks good here, but I want to ask a quick question on note. > All the times I add a tag, I follow it with the tag, > is this correct, incorrect, not matter? I would really like to > follow a `style' and just have not noticed a pattern as of yet. I prefer writing them on separate lines, to let future versions of the document minimise diffs. Thus, when a new para is added, the diff won't include stuff like: - old stuff + new stuff... + old stuff... but, something like: + new stuff... old stuff... But, this is just my personal preference. 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    8) зрительный и слуховой аппарат; 9) анализ крови (без её забора) - биохимических показателей, гемоглобина, эритроцитов, лейкоцитов и т.д.; 10) состояние иммунитета, аллергическая предрасположенность; 11), выявление микробов, вирусов, гельминтов (глистов) - хламидий, уреаплазм, стафилококков, стрептококков, лямблий, трихомонад, аскарид и др.;
    Метод позволяет выявить индивидуальную предрасположенность к самым серьёзным заболеваниям, таким как: сахарный диабет, атеросклероз, сердечно-сосудистые заболевания, инфаркт, инсульт. Вы сможете узнать не только о заболеваниях на самых ранних стадиях, но и будете проинформированы о зонах, где болезнь может начаться через несколько лет! После обследования вам будут предложены лучшие методы лечения европейской, китайской, тибетской медицины. В наших центрах вы можете сделать УЗИ, ЭКГ, любые лабораторные АНАЛИЗЫ.
    Вы в несколько раз экономите время и деньги! После обследования Вам будут преложены эффективные методы лечения европейской и восточной медицины. Также в наших центрах Вы можете пройти узи, ЭКГ, любые лабораторные анализы. При повторном обследовании скидка - 50%! Принимаем корпоративные заявки!
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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 3:17:28 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2DF37B401; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 03:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [211.6.83.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1863043FBD; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 03:17:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (p30156-adsao12honb4-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [219.161.183.156]) by smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323BD250A; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:17:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail.allbsd.org (8.12.6/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id h1MBFCJ8090633; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:15:13 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:12:41 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030222.201241.59738178.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: des@ofug.org, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: piecemeal articles From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20030219160648.GD6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20030204201507.GA86389@nathan.ruhr.de> <20030205.053129.78764236.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> <20030219160648.GD6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Sat_Feb_22_20:12:41_2003_818)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----Next_Part(Sat_Feb_22_20:12:41_2003_818)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nik Clayton wrote in <20030219160648.GD6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org>: nik> Adding a link back and forth between the split and non-split versions is nik> something that I've been meaning to do for ages. I made a patch to add such links using (*-titlepage-separator). It is somewhat ugly, but what do you think? nik> But then, shouldn't we perhaps also have links to the other formats as nik> well (PS, PDF, etc...)? nik> nik> I'm not sure. Yes, I like something like that. But I think it would not be simple as adding a link to choose split/single html docs. Anyway, I will try to work on this, too. Any comments/objections? -- | Hiroki SATO / ----Next_Part(Sat_Feb_22_20:12:41_2003_818)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="doc.diff" Index: freebsd.dsl =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.69 diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$Id:.*\$ -I\$hrs:.*\$ -r1.69 freebsd.dsl --- freebsd.dsl 16 Feb 2003 14:59:30 -0000 1.69 +++ freebsd.dsl 22 Feb 2003 11:07:17 -0000 @@ -76,6 +76,54 @@ (normalize "legalnotice") (normalize "isbn"))) + + (define (make-docformat-navi tlist) + (let ((rootgi (gi (sgml-root-element)))) + (make element gi: "DIV" + attributes: '(("CLASS" "DOCFORAMTNAVI")) + (literal "[ ") + (make-docformat-navi-link rootgi tlist) + (literal " ]")))) + + (define (make-docformat-navi-link rootgi tlist) + (make sequence + (cond + ((null? tlist) (empty-sosofo)) + ((null? (car tlist)) (empty-sosofo)) + ((not (symbol? (car tlist))) (empty-sosofo)) + ((equal? (car tlist) 'html-split) + (make sequence + (create-link (list (list "href" "./index.html")) + (literal "Split HTML")) + (if (not (null? (cdr tlist))) + (make sequence + (literal " / ") + (make-docformat-navi-link rootgi (cdr tlist))) + (empty-sosofo)))) + ((equal? (car tlist) 'html-single) + (make sequence + (create-link (list (list "href" + (string-append "./" (case-fold-down rootgi) ".html"))) + (literal "Single HTML")) + (if (not (null? (cdr tlist))) + (make sequence + (literal " / ") + (make-docformat-navi-link rootgi (cdr tlist))) + (empty-sosofo)))) + (else (empty-sosofo))))) + + (define (article-titlepage-separator side) + (make sequence + (make-docformat-navi '(html-split html-single)) + (make empty-element gi: "HR"))) + + (define (book-titlepage-separator side) + (if (equal? side 'recto) + (make sequence + (make-docformat-navi '(html-split html-single)) + (make empty-element gi: "HR")) + (empty-sosofo))) + ----Next_Part(Sat_Feb_22_20:12:41_2003_818)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 10: 4: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7BF37B401 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from bol.com.br (200-163-044-064.cpece7003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.163.44.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C75743FDF for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:04:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from redacaocoml@bol.com.br) From: "Redação Comercial" To: Subject: Elaboração de cartas comerciais Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:03:58 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030222180404.0C75743FDF@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org COMUNICADO IMPORTANTE!! 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Estamos lançando o KIT DE CARTAS COMERCIAIS, que sana suas dúvidas na elaboração de: agradecimentos, atestados e declarações, avisos, cartas de cobrança, cartas em inglês, comunicados, convites, contratos, propostas, empregos, solicitações e pedidos, telegramas, cartas por e-mail, etc. Composto de 02 (dois) disquetes com 150 modelos de documentos cada um, mais livreto 20 páginas, com técnicas de redação comercial. Indicado para: secretárias em geral, gerências, Rh, executivos, estudantes e empresas de toda ordem. Este kit possui um preço ínfimo em relação ao que poderá gerar no aperfeiçoamento da comunicação de sua empresa. Acesse nossa Home Page para mais detalhes: http://www.redacaodecartas.ihp.com.br Ps: Caso não queira receber novas mensagens e novidades sobre esse assunto, acesse: http://www.remova-me.ihp.com.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 13:17:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A4137B401; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1BE43FB1; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:17:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A9CABC9; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:17:54 +0100 (CET) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D7BB544E7; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:17:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:17:53 +0100 From: Christian Brueffer To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Ports upgrade kits Message-ID: <20030222211753.GG625@unixpages.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8jNwmpfkpox/fiJK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --8jNwmpfkpox/fiJK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, the documentation about upgrade kits on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ seems to be outdated for some time now. The links to the upgrade kits there are dead. It seems that there are no new kits made available. Can this information be safely removed? - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --8jNwmpfkpox/fiJK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+V+kBbHYXjKDtmC0RApROAKCVPhQeblEyhGKd1HbwEZ51ELQk6QCfWcEo 57ruBC/xj5PY61o0PUC3s6I= =i54O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8jNwmpfkpox/fiJK-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 13:26:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB9437B401; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from procyon.firepipe.net (procyon.firepipe.net [198.78.66.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EC343FE3; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:26:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@csociety.org) Received: by procyon.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 928A0216AC; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:26:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:26:43 -0800 From: Will Andrews To: Christian Brueffer Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports upgrade kits Message-ID: <20030222212643.GN3752@procyon.firepipe.net> Mail-Followup-To: Christian Brueffer , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org References: <20030222211753.GG625@unixpages.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030222211753.GG625@unixpages.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 10:17:53PM +0100, Christian Brueffer wrote: > the documentation about upgrade kits on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ > seems to be outdated for some time now. > > The links to the upgrade kits there are dead. It seems that there > are no new kits made available. > > Can this information be safely removed? Yes. They should be obsolete. Regards, -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 13:27: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE8E37B401; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:27:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-52.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE0543F93; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:27:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB401679DC; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8542C122C; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:27:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:27:02 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Christian Brueffer Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ports upgrade kits Message-ID: <20030222212702.GA20795@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20030222211753.GG625@unixpages.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030222211753.GG625@unixpages.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 10:17:53PM +0100, Christian Brueffer wrote: > Hi, >=20 > the documentation about upgrade kits on http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ > seems to be outdated for some time now. >=20 > The links to the upgrade kits there are dead. It seems that there > are no new kits made available. >=20 > Can this information be safely removed? Yes. Kris --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+V+slWry0BWjoQKURAv8yAKDSi0f+nMzY/R/2mbN3L8aADqNxzACg7vIo jHQaa1oiFzdrd7TYJ/9IQMg= =LQ1P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 13:27:41 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B292637B401 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc2-cdif2-5-cust35.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.151.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1EA43FAF for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:27:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mhBH-0002Ib-00; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:27:35 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:27:35 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: YAMANO Yuji Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken link Message-ID: <20030222212735.GA8729@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , YAMANO Yuji , doc@freebsd.org References: <20030220.115153.17415692.Yamano_Yuji@tk-bay.ogis-ri.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030220.115153.17415692.Yamano_Yuji@tk-bay.ogis-ri.co.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 11:51:53AM +0900, YAMANO Yuji wrote: > At http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/biblio.html, > the link to McKusick's releng paper is incorrect. I think it must be > > http://docs.freebsd.org/44doc/papers/releng.html Thank you - I just committed a delta to fix this. Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 13:29:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C3D37B405; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:29:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc2-cdif2-5-cust35.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.151.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F194543FBD; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 13:29:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mhCw-0002K2-00; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:29:18 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:29:18 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5-Stable Roadmap and the docs Message-ID: <20030222212918.GB8729@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030221163750.GA25075@submonkey.net> <20030221204650.GP6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030221204650.GP6403@clan.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 08:46:50PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 04:37:50PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > Since at the moment RELENG_4 and CURRENT have some disparities, I think we > > have three options: > > > > i) Branch the doc/ tree; > > > > ii) Abandon the "doc/ reflects life with -stable" approach; > > > > iii) Muddle through adding s, etc and get ourselves in a state. > > > > Which one should we be going for ? > > (i) is likely to be a pain to manage. I don't think (ii) is realistic, > given that we're not suggesting that people migrate en masse to 5.0 yet. > Which leaves (iii)... That's what I thought. > > Also, I think now is a good time to kill all 2.x and 3.x stuff from > > the docs. I could be convinced that 3.x should stay - I'm unshakeable > > on 2.x, but that doesn't mean I'm about to barge ahead and do it. > > 2.x can go. I wouldn't personally lose sleep if we removed information > that was solely pertinent to 3.x either. Sweet. Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 14: 8:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DBC37B401 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc2-cdif2-5-cust35.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.151.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3516543F85 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:08:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mhpJ-0002h6-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:08:57 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:08:57 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: HTML2TXT Message-ID: <20030222220857.GD8729@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Isn't HTML2TXT misdefined here ? doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk:HTML2TXT?= ${PREFIX}/bin/links doc/share/mk/doc.html.mk:HTML2TXT?= ${PREFIX}/bin/links $ links -dump Unknown option -dump Should I change this to lynx or have I got the wrong version of links ? ( $ pkg_info | grep ^links links-2.1.p7,1 Lynx-like text WWW browser ) Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 14:16: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E8A37B405 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc2-cdif2-5-cust35.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.151.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D8943FBD for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 14:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 18mhw8-0002mW-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:16:00 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 22:16:00 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HTML2TXT Message-ID: <20030222221600.GE8729@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030222220857.GD8729@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030222220857.GD8729@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 10:08:57PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > Isn't HTML2TXT misdefined here ? > > doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk:HTML2TXT?= ${PREFIX}/bin/links > doc/share/mk/doc.html.mk:HTML2TXT?= ${PREFIX}/bin/links In case it wasn't clear, here's the reason I'm asking: $ make FORMATS=txt /usr/local/bin/links -dump book.html-text > book.txt Unknown option -dump *** Error code 3 Stop in /FreeBSD/home-ex/setantae/doc/trees/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook. $ Ceri -- User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 15:43:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C14B37B401; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:43:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A5F43F75; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:43:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DB0ABC9; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:43:27 +0100 (CET) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D02B1462E; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:43:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:43:26 +0100 From: Christian Brueffer To: Ceri Davies Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HTML2TXT Message-ID: <20030222234326.GH625@unixpages.org> References: <20030222220857.GD8729@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdEQJo40s7ofW8iR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030222220857.GD8729@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --sdEQJo40s7ofW8iR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 10:08:57PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: >=20 > Isn't HTML2TXT misdefined here ? >=20 > doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk:HTML2TXT?=3D ${PREFIX}/bin/links > doc/share/mk/doc.html.mk:HTML2TXT?=3D ${PREFIX}/bin/links >=20 > $ links -dump=20 > Unknown option -dump >=20 > Should I change this to lynx or have I got the wrong version of links ? >=20 > ( $ pkg_info | grep ^links > links-2.1.p7,1 Lynx-like text WWW browser > ) >=20 links2 has no -dump option anymore, www/links1 still has it. I guess lynx or links1 would be good options. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --sdEQJo40s7ofW8iR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+WAsebHYXjKDtmC0RAj24AKDm3aRSFQOhmRLIg2OPg+B40JLrFgCffpZb m6kc+pJ0BZ+22Qn0kP4+ydg= =e2Io -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdEQJo40s7ofW8iR-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 16: 0:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC57337B401 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB96043FCB for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:00:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1N00WNS072793 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:00:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h1N00WP2072792; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3881D37B401 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.webtt.biz (ns.webtt.biz [64.239.29.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D0D243FBF for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:55:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@ns.webtt.biz) Received: (qmail 98534 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Feb 2003 23:58:06 -0000 Message-Id: <20030222235806.98533.qmail@ns.webtt.biz> Date: 22 Feb 2003 23:58:06 -0000 From: Rui Lopes Reply-To: Rui Lopes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/48571: PATCH: Mistake in Developer's Handbook (x86 boot address) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 48571 >Category: docs >Synopsis: PATCH: Mistake in Developer's Handbook (x86 boot address) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Feb 22 16:00:30 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Rui Lopes >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD disty 5.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #3: Fri Jan 24 20:50:05 WET 2003 root@disty:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DEBUGGER i386 >Description: The Instruction Pointer of a x86 CPU after reset is 0xfffffff0 and not 0xffffff00. You can refer to "Intel System Programming Guide" section 3.2.1. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply path to file, $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/boot/chapter.sgml,v 1.12 2003/01/12 18:31:38 roam Exp $ --- chapter.sgml.diff begins here --- --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/boot/chapter.sgml.old Sat Feb 22 21:13:52 2003 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/boot/chapter.sgml Sat Feb 22 21:17:47 2003 @@ -124,7 +124,7 @@ to some predefined values. One of the registers is the instruction pointer register, and its value after a power on is well defined: it is a 32-bit value of - 0xffffff00. The instruction pointer register points to code to + 0xfffffff0. The instruction pointer register points to code to be executed by the processor. One of the registers is the cr1 32-bit control register, and its value just after the reboot is 0. One of the cr1's bits, the bit PE @@ -134,7 +134,7 @@ among other things, that linear and physical addresses are identical.     - The value of 0xffffff00 is slightly less then 4Gb, so unless + The value of 0xfffffff0 is slightly less then 4Gb, so unless the machine has 4Gb physical memory, it cannot point to a valid memory address. The computer's hardware translates this address so that it points to a BIOS memory block. @@ -144,7 +144,7 @@ a relatively small amount of read-only memory (ROM). This memory contains various low-level routines that are specific to the hardware supplied with the motherboard. So, the processor - will first jump to the address 0xffffff00, which really resides + will first jump to the address 0xfffffff0, which really resides in the BIOS's memory. Usually this address contains a jump instruction to the BIOS's POST routines. --- chapter.sgml.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 16:13:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3457C37B401 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A0043FBF for ; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:13:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kkb@breathhost.net) Received: from [192.168.1.63] (12-240-241-190.client.attbi.com[12.240.241.190]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with SMTP id <2003022300135505100h44r9e>; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:13:55 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:13:55 -0800 Subject: website suggestions re ports and packages From: Kurt Bigler To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have several times been frustrated trying to find information about freebsd ports and packages on the website. Once I stumbled onto a page that compared and contrasted packages and ports, but I lost the bookmark and can not find the page again on your site. The left link bar on the homepage, under Software, contains an item Ported Applications. It would be great if there were a parallel item right there for packages. Either that or if you are trying to keep that link bar short, replace the item with a link to a ports and packages page - ideally a page that links to both the ports collection and the packages collection and explains the difference between the two. If instead you have separate homepage links for the ports collection and the packages collection, it would be good if each of those pages contained links to the other related pages (ports page link to packages, packages page link to ports, both pages link to page describing the difference). It would also be helpful to be able to search for both ports and packages. Usually I will want a package if available and otherwise I will use a port (if I don't have it backwards). By the way, when I do any search today, I get a list of documents, any of which when clicked on brings me to your document-not-found page. For example this happenned when I searched for "packages" using the search feature on the homepage. If anyone knows where that page is that compares and contrasts ports and packages, I would appreciate a direct reply with the url, since I am not a member of this mailing list. Thanks, Kurt Bigler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Feb 22 21:11:32 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D882F37B401; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FBA43F85; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:11:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003022305112800300r5qkce>; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 05:11:29 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.7/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h1N5BRst029957; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:11:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.7/8.12.7/Submit) id h1N5BRjw029956; Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:11:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:11:27 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Christian Brueffer Cc: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HTML2TXT Message-ID: <20030223051127.GA29932@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030222220857.GD8729@submonkey.net> <20030222234326.GH625@unixpages.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030222234326.GH625@unixpages.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Christian Brueffer wrote: > On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 10:08:57PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > >=20 > > Isn't HTML2TXT misdefined here ? > >=20 > > doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk:HTML2TXT?=3D ${PREFIX}/bin/links > > doc/share/mk/doc.html.mk:HTML2TXT?=3D ${PREFIX}/bin/links > >=20 > > $ links -dump=20 > > Unknown option -dump > >=20 > > Should I change this to lynx or have I got the wrong version of links ? > >=20 > > ( $ pkg_info | grep ^links > > links-2.1.p7,1 Lynx-like text WWW browser > > ) > >=20 >=20 > links2 has no -dump option anymore, www/links1 still has it. I guess > lynx or links1 would be good options. www/links1 is what's intended, and that's what's used as a dependency by the textproc/docproj port. We used to use www/lynx at one point in time, but for a time it was FORBIDDEN due to security concerns. I don't know its current status. Bruce. --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+WFf/2MoxcVugUsMRAtvlAJ4r5+Mhs160byx2ZvvOSHAgq7rDEwCaAqSc MBnhx3eJ5C4thYAeEquT4NQ= =guHp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message