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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 6: 5: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F1837B401 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 06:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.tagus.ist.utl.pt (ana.tagus.ist.utl.pt [193.136.166.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4BC43F93 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 06:04:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bruno.borges@tagus.ist.utl.pt) Received: (qmail 27473 invoked by uid 504); 9 Mar 2003 14:04:54 -0000 Received: from bruno.borges@tagus.ist.utl.pt by ana.tagus.ist.utl.pt by uid 501 with qmail-scanner-1.13 (iscan: v3.1/v5.600-1011/478/47978. spamassassin: 2.43-cvs. Clear:. Processed in 0.142209 secs); 09 Mar 2003 14:04:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) ([172.20.10.8]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.tagus.ist.utl.pt (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Mar 2003 14:04:53 -0000 To: Subject: Doubt From: Borges Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:05:12 WET Reply-To: bruno.borges@tagus.ist.utl.pt X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Originating-Ip: [213.22.160.53] X-Mailer: TDI - Subsistema de Webmail v1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Qmail-Scanner-1.13: added fake MIME-Version header MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Qmail-Scanner-Message-ID: <104721869350127462@ana.tagus.ist.utl.pt> Message-Id: <20030309140457.2D4BC43F93@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I want to know where I can find the handbook in .pdf format. Because in your site you say that, but when I try to connect to the ftp server i can't dunno why... Thx in advance. (sorry my english) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 8:33:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C6D37B401 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 08:33:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EF743F93 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 08:33:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h29GXDp14452; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 08:33:13 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: bruno.borges@tagus.ist.utl.pt, Subject: Re: Doubt Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 08:33:13 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030309140457.2D4BC43F93@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030309140457.2D4BC43F93@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303090833.13362.kstewart@owt.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 09 March 2003 05:55 am, Borges wrote: > Hello! > > I want to know where I can find the handbook in .pdf format. Because > in your site you say that, but when I try to connect to the ftp > server i can't dunno why... > > Thx in advance. The links are wrong. See ftp://ftp2.pt.FreeBSD.org/pub/freebsd/ftp/doc. The 2nd FreeBSD is all lower case. There isn't a "pt" version of the handbook even on ftp.freebsd.org.=20 There is one in espa=F1ol on=20 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook. If you aren comfortable with English, you also have other languages. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 13:38: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DDD37B401 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from CPE0004761ac738-CM00109515bc65.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE0004761ac738-CM00109515bc65.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [63.138.157.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 215C843F75 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:38:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shadow@cpe0004761ac738-cm00109515bc65.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Received: (qmail 4459 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Mar 2003 20:37:46 -0000 Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:37:46 -0500 From: Miroslav Pendev To: Dimitar Tanev Cc: docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Co-Work Message-ID: <20030309203746.GA1083@cybershade.us> References: <895545145.1047239732730.JavaMail.nobody@java1.ni.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <895545145.1047239732730.JavaMail.nobody@java1.ni.bg> X-Divine-Shadow-Zone: Beware of Lexxx! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.7 STABLE X-System-Uptime: 4:18PM up 4:01, 5 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 09:55:32PM +0200, Dimitar Tanev wrote: > Hello, > > I want to translate FreeBSD Handbook from English to Bulgarian language. > Is there any interest ? If yes, just write me back with details for our co-work. > > Regards, > Dimitar Tanev Hi Dimitar, I am kinda working on the FDP primer and it is almost done. Take a look at: www.cybershade.us/freebsd/bg/ There is other people also interested in this, hope we will have reply from them, too.... :-) Petar Penchev may also be interested, hope we will hear from him... Take care. Miro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 13:59:47 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73BA37B401; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:59:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49CE43FBD; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:59:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E073F51A4E; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:30:48 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:30:48 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Murray Stokely Cc: jared nied , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OS X vs. Darwin Message-ID: <20030309220048.GD38342@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3464BCFE-4FD2-11D7-A6E7-000393BB8320@southampton.liu.edu> <20030308043937.M79531@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BRE3mIcgqKzpedwo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030308043937.M79531@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --BRE3mIcgqKzpedwo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 8 March 2003 at 4:39:37 -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:50:27AM -0500, jared nied wrote: >> You say in 'Explaining BSD' that OS X is a closed-source BSD, with only >> the kernel open-sourced. Darwin is an entirely functional BSD OS for >> x86 and PPCs > .. > > How about this diff? Greg? Hmm. I'll leave it for others to decide, but my understanding is that Darwin and the lower levels of Mac OS X are *not* identical, that you can't replace one with the other for example. Is this correct? If so, the text below as it stands is incorrect. Greg > Index: article.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /a/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.6 > diff -u -r1.6 article.sgml > --- article.sgml 23 Oct 2001 21:31:18 -0000 1.6 > +++ article.sgml 8 Mar 2003 12:38:50 -0000 > @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ > - > + > > > @@ -437,9 +437,15 @@ > Mac OS > X is the latest version of the operating system for > Apple Computer Inc.'s > - Macintosh line. Unlike the rest of the operating system, the > - kernel is open source. As part of this development, key Apple > - developers have commit access to the FreeBSD source tree. > + Macintosh line. The BSD Unix core of this operating > + system, + url="http://developer.apple.com/darwin/">Darwin, > + is available as a fully functional open source operating > + system for x86 and PPC computers. The Aqua/Quartz > + graphics system and many other proprietary aspects of > + MacOS X remain closed-source, however. Several Darwin > + developers are also FreeBSD committers, and > + vice-versa. > > > > -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --BRE3mIcgqKzpedwo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+a7mQIubykFB6QiMRArU+AJ9eQ7w8q/vuwsRNYtZPlJG+hC46IQCfQy6j UoeJOR6d+e5niZ2nZudtY18= =tGHL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BRE3mIcgqKzpedwo-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 15:30: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E8A37B404 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0566F43F85 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:30:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5F6A610BF94; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:29:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:29:58 +0100 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Minor path to danish euro article Message-ID: <20030309232957.GF17210@nitro.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="phCU5ROyZO6kBE05" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --phCU5ROyZO6kBE05 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="6WlEvdN9Dv0WHSBl" Content-Disposition: inline --6WlEvdN9Dv0WHSBl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello I just read the newly translated danish euro article. I noticed an 'or' that was not translated into danish... A patch is attached. This seems so trivial that a PR feels like overkill, or do you (doc commiters) still prefer a PR for things like this? Very nice to see some danish text in the FreeBSD tree :-) --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --6WlEvdN9Dv0WHSBl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="doc-dk-euro.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: article.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/da_DK.ISO8859-1/articles/euro/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -d -r1.1 article.sgml --- article.sgml 9 Mar 2003 21:25:19 -0000 1.1 +++ article.sgml 9 Mar 2003 23:19:28 -0000 @@ -245,7 +245,7 @@ =20 export LC_CTYPE=3Dde_DE.I= SO8859-15 =20 - til din .bash_profile (bash), or: + til din .bash_profile (bash), eller: =20 setenv LC_CTYPE de_DE.ISO= 8859-15 =20 --6WlEvdN9Dv0WHSBl-- --phCU5ROyZO6kBE05 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+a8518kocFXgPTRwRAlguAKDLio6FYmuAU3xAnn9BADAM6ZWZagCgzAjZ 6Tl+NREwlEqHjTJb8dB+6xQ= =nVLd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --phCU5ROyZO6kBE05-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 15:31:41 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A36E37B407 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from user-0cevbf0.cable.mindspring.com (user-0cevbf0.cable.mindspring.com [24.239.173.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C13D343FAF for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:31:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ewpvntq@geocities.com) From: Âàñèëèé To: Freebsd-doc Subject: Ïîçäðàâëÿþ ñ 8 ìàðòà- Ñ÷àñòüÿ Ëþáâè Áëàãîïîëó÷èÿ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030309233132.C13D343FAF@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:31:32 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org American Language Center
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817001328082532784434310430106 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 17:11:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729CE37B401 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:11:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.33.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0E943FAF for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:11:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:i8NaBqDXE65IGuhsgBOh56I/WQFelLNc@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2A1BDkU094519 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:11:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: New TeTeX Problem From: Dave Tweten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 17:11:13 -0800 Message-ID: <94518.1047258673@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone have an idea as to what's going on here? Immediately after the appearence of teTeX-2.0.x, the following began happening when I try to build the FreeBSD documents: ===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap ==> TeX pass 1/3 /usr/local/bin/tex "&jadetex" '\RequirePackage{url} \def\PageTwoSide{1} \nonstopmode\input{article.tex}' This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) ==> TeX pass 2/3 *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/local/bin/tex "&jadetex" '\RequirePackage{url} \def\PageTwoSide{1} \nonstopmode\input{article.tex}' This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) ==> TeX pass 3/3 *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/local/bin/tex "&jadetex" '\RequirePackage{url} \def\PageTwoSide{1} \nonstopmode\input{article.tex}' This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/local/bin/dvips -o article.ps article.dvi This is dvips(k) 5.92b Copyright 2002 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com) /usr/local/bin/dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc. I have no idea what a "format file" is in the context of TeX. -- M/S 258-5 |1024-bit PGP fingerprint:|tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59| (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000| 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6|FAX: (650) 604-4377 We each earn what freedom of speech we defend for those who most offend us. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 19:15:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501B637B401; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 19:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.reppep.com (www.reppep.com [66.92.104.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9162543FB1; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 19:15:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pepper@reppep.com) Received: from [66.92.104.201] (g4.reppep.com [66.92.104.201]) by www.reppep.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8DAFDAA; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:15:47 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: pepper@mail.reppep.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030309220048.GD38342@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3464BCFE-4FD2-11D7-A6E7-000393BB8320@southampton.liu.edu> <20030308043937.M79531@freebsdmall.com> <20030309220048.GD38342@wantadilla.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:06:59 -0500 To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey From: Chris Pepper Subject: Re: OS X vs. Darwin Cc: Murray Stokely , jared nied , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org They're not quite identical, but extremely close. Basically, Mac OS X is Darwin + proprietary bits (Quartz, Carbon, Cocoa, QuickTime, various encumbered drivers, etc.). More detail is available at ("A Brief Review of the State of Darwin") and (Q2). For the patch, it should be "Mac OS X", not "MacOS X". Chris Pepper At 8:30 AM +1030 2003/03/10, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >On Saturday, 8 March 2003 at 4:39:37 -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:50:27AM -0500, jared nied wrote: >>> You say in 'Explaining BSD' that OS X is a closed-source BSD, with only >>> the kernel open-sourced. Darwin is an entirely functional BSD OS for >>> x86 and PPCs >> .. >> >> How about this diff? Greg? > >Hmm. I'll leave it for others to decide, but my understanding is that >Darwin and the lower levels of Mac OS X are *not* identical, that you >can't replace one with the other for example. Is this correct? If >so, the text below as it stands is incorrect. > >Greg > >> Index: article.sgml >> =================================================================== >> RCS file: /a/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/explaining-bsd/article.sgml,v >> retrieving revision 1.6 >> diff -u -r1.6 article.sgml >> --- article.sgml 23 Oct 2001 21:31:18 -0000 1.6 >> +++ article.sgml 8 Mar 2003 12:38:50 -0000 >> @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ >> - >> + >> >> >> >Extension//EN" [ >> @@ -437,9 +437,15 @@ >> Mac OS >> X is the latest version of the operating system for >> Apple Computer Inc.'s >> - Macintosh line. Unlike the rest of the operating system, the >> - kernel is open source. As part of this development, key Apple >> - developers have commit access to the FreeBSD source tree. >> + Macintosh line. The BSD Unix core of this operating >> + system, > + url="http://developer.apple.com/darwin/">Darwin, >> + is available as a fully functional open source operating >> + system for x86 and PPC computers. The Aqua/Quartz >> + graphics system and many other proprietary aspects of >> + MacOS X remain closed-source, however. Several Darwin >> + developers are also FreeBSD committers, and >> + vice-versa. >> >> >> >> > > > >-- >See complete headers for address and phone numbers > >Content-Type: application/pgp-signature >Content-Disposition: inline > >Attachment converted: cPod:Untitled 2 (????/----) (00014D74) -- Chris Pepper: Rockefeller University: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 20:31:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4523837B401 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A0543FBF for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:31:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <2003031004313600100j8fnce>; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 04:31:36 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2A4VZWp057808; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:31:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2A4VZrk057807; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:31:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 20:31:35 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New TeTeX Problem Message-ID: <20030310043135.GA57758@intruder.bmah.org> References: <94518.1047258673@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <94518.1047258673@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Dave Tweten wrote: > Does anyone have an idea as to what's going on here? Immediately after t= he=20 > appearence of teTeX-2.0.x, the following began happening when I try to bu= ild=20 > the FreeBSD documents: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap > =3D=3D> TeX pass 1/3 > /usr/local/bin/tex "&jadetex" '\RequirePackage{url} \def\PageTwoSide{1}= =20 > \nonstopmode\input{article.tex}' > This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) > (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) > =3D=3D> TeX pass 2/3 > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > /usr/local/bin/tex "&jadetex" '\RequirePackage{url} \def\PageTwoSide{1}= =20 > \nonstopmode\input{article.tex}' > This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) > (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) > =3D=3D> TeX pass 3/3 > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > /usr/local/bin/tex "&jadetex" '\RequirePackage{url} \def\PageTwoSide{1}= =20 > \nonstopmode\input{article.tex}' > This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) > (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > /usr/local/bin/dvips -o article.ps article.dvi > This is dvips(k) 5.92b Copyright 2002 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaley= e.com) > /usr/local/bin/dvips: ! DVI file can't be opened. > *** Error code 1 Hi Dave-- I vaguely remember running into a problem like this when I upgraded my teTeX port. I *think* that I solved this removing and reinstalling jadetex, but I'm not sure. (BTW, I run an OpenJade-based toolchain, so YMMV.) Sorry...my recollection is pretty hazy at this point. Good luck! Bruce. --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+bBUn2MoxcVugUsMRAqo/AJ9uWgNc/Ue+qzOQQ/wXBQkCEX3J5ACdFuBl Qua++ziMcEF4RGuco4lEchE= =ap3O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 22:21:10 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC25C37B404; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:21:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from builder.freebsdmall.com (builder.freebsdmall.com [65.86.180.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A1143FBD; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:21:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@builder.freebsdmall.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by builder.freebsdmall.com (8.12.7/8.11.6) id h2A6L7ov010853; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:21:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:21:02 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Cc: jared nied , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OS X vs. Darwin Message-ID: <20030309222102.G8642@freebsdmall.com> References: <3464BCFE-4FD2-11D7-A6E7-000393BB8320@southampton.liu.edu> <20030308043937.M79531@freebsdmall.com> <20030309220048.GD38342@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030309220048.GD38342@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:30:48AM +1030 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:30:48AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > Hmm. I'll leave it for others to decide, but my understanding is that > Darwin and the lower levels of Mac OS X are *not* identical, that you > can't replace one with the other for example. Is this correct? If > so, the text below as it stands is incorrect. The proposed change doesn't claim that they are identical. It sounds like you are objecting to this sentence : "The BSD Unix core of this operating system, Darwin, is available as a fully functional open source operating system for x86 and PPC computers." The next sentence goes on to clarify that much of the Mac OS X code is closed source and, implicitly, not in Darwin and not interchangeable. "The Aqua/Quartz graphics system and many other proprietary aspects of Mac OS X remain closed-source, however." I think this is a pretty clear and succinct way to state the relationship between Darwin and Mac OS X. If you can think of a better way, please commit it. In any case, we've cleared up the major inaccuracy which was claiming that Darwin is just the kernel (XNU). - Murray --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQE+bC7OtNcQog5FH30RAq2oAJ0e+wo2oQaCT0WmdRCOWN8KMAZbQwCgoC+g kQnW/ypxw7oIlmUGkibPh5Q= =pR6X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 22:22:56 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5552637B401; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from builder.freebsdmall.com (builder.freebsdmall.com [65.86.180.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E1543FBF; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:22:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@builder.freebsdmall.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by builder.freebsdmall.com (8.12.7/8.11.6) id h2A6Msjo010870; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:22:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:22:54 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Chris Pepper Cc: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , jared nied , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: OS X vs. Darwin Message-ID: <20030309222254.H8642@freebsdmall.com> References: <3464BCFE-4FD2-11D7-A6E7-000393BB8320@southampton.liu.edu> <20030308043937.M79531@freebsdmall.com> <20030309220048.GD38342@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+xNpyl7Qekk2NvDX" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from pepper@reppep.com on Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:06:59PM -0500 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --+xNpyl7Qekk2NvDX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:06:59PM -0500, Chris Pepper wrote: > They're not quite identical, but extremely close. Basically,=20 > Mac OS X is Darwin + proprietary bits (Quartz, Carbon, Cocoa,=20 > QuickTime, various encumbered drivers, etc.). Yes. > For the patch, it should be "Mac OS X", not "MacOS X". Thanks. I'll try to teach my fingers to type this correctly. We could probably use an &os.osx; entity to render this properly throughout the doc tree. With this one change, I've committed it to the tree. 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Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 23: 6:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5F837B408 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from web40803.mail.yahoo.com (web40803.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F2B243FEA for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:06:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rimi4eva@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030310070629.40946.qmail@web40803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [217.146.9.213] by web40803.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Mar 2003 23:06:29 PST Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:06:29 -0800 (PST) From: Ango A Reply-To: ango_a@yahoo.com Subject: Mutual Investment proposal To: rimi4eva@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DEAR SIR, I HAVE THE HONOUR AND CONFIDENCE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU THIS BUSSINESS IN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT YOU ARE TRUSTWORTHY AND RELIABLE. I AM MR. Ango A, THE EASTERN DISTRICT ACCOUNTANT OF STANDARD TRUST BANK PLC (STB). THERE IS AN ACCOUNT OPENED IN THIS BANK IN 1982 AND SINCE 1990 NOBODY HAS OPERATED ON THIS ACCOUNT AGAIN. AFTER INTENSIVE INVESTIGATION, I DISCOVERED THAT THE OWNER OF THIS ACCOUNT WAS THE OWNER OF CREST MARTINS CO. LTD. A FOREIGNER FROM SWEDEN, A CRUDE OIL MERCHANT, AND HE DIED IN 1990 AND HAS NO NEXT OF KIN AND THE ACCOUNT HAS NO BENEFICIARY, MY INVESTIGATION PROVED TO ME AS WELL THAT HIS COMPANY DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ACCOUNT. THE AMOUNT INVOLVED RUNS INTO SEVERAL MILLIONS OF UNITED STATES DOLLARS, ABOUT US $17,460,000.00 SEVENTEEN MILLION, FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. IN THE LIGHT OF THE ABOVE FACT, I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE TO OPEN YOUR DOOR TO THIS OPPORTUNITY BY PROVIDING YOUR ACCOUNT OR ANY ACCOUNT OF YOUR CHOICE WHERE THE FUND WILL BE REMITTED. YOUR ASSISTANCE AS A FOREIGNER IS NECESSARY BECAUSE THIS MANAGEMENT IS READY TO WELCOME ANY PERSON, A FOREIGNER WHO HAS CORRECT INFORMATION TO THIS ACCOUNT, WHICH I WILL GIVE TO YOU IMMEDIATELY, IF YOU INTRESTED TO CONCLUDE THIS TRANSACTION WITH ME. I WILL APPLY FOR AN ANNUAL LEAVE IMMEDIATELY I HEAR FROM YOU THAT YOU ARE READY TO ACT AND RECEIVE THIS FUND INTO YOUR ACCOUNT. THIS IS TO ENABLE ME USE MY POSITION AND INFLUENCE TO EFFECT THE ONWARD TRANSMISSION OF THIS MONEY TO YOUR DESIRED ACCOUNT. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS BUSINESS, YOU WILL BE GIVEN 20% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT, 75% WILL BE FOR US, WHILE 5% BE SET ASIDE FOR CHARITY ORGANISATION AND EXPENSE WE MIGHT INCURE DURING THE TRANSACTION. I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR EARNEST REPLY. YOURS TRULY, Mr. Ango A __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 23:14:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E5E37B404; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836CB43FBD; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2A7EqNS027917; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2A7Ep9P027913; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:14:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:14:51 -0800 (PST) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200303100714.h2A7Ep9P027913@freefall.freebsd.org> To: simon@nitro.dk, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/49032: [patch] Error in handbook/current-stable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [patch] Error in handbook/current-stable State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Sun Mar 9 23:14:34 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Committed with minor changes. Thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=49032 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 23:22:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01D537B401 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:22:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from builder.freebsdmall.com (builder.freebsdmall.com [65.86.180.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D9543FBD for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:22:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@builder.freebsdmall.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by builder.freebsdmall.com (8.12.7/8.11.6) id h2A7MXAw011791; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:22:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:22:33 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Minor path to danish euro article Message-ID: <20030309232233.L8642@freebsdmall.com> References: <20030309232957.GF17210@nitro.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qf1oXS95uex85X0R" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030309232957.GF17210@nitro.dk>; from simon@nitro.dk on Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:29:58AM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Qf1oXS95uex85X0R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:29:58AM +0100, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > This seems so trivial that a PR feels like overkill, or do you (doc > commiters) still prefer a PR for things like this? Yes, this is fine for small completely uncontroversial stuff like this. I've committed your patch. Thanks! - Murray --Qf1oXS95uex85X0R Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQE+bD04tNcQog5FH30RAg0aAKCbUUw7rVg9GJ2FZnOMhmbDUcX3nwCfbvwR A88zSXPcrP0L9/1jF6PlsRI= =3NWY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qf1oXS95uex85X0R-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 9 23:25:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B1937B401; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from builder.freebsdmall.com (builder.freebsdmall.com [65.86.180.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AB843F3F; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:25:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@builder.freebsdmall.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by builder.freebsdmall.com (8.12.7/8.11.6) id h2A7PSBH011826; Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:25:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:25:28 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: David.E.Tweten@nasa.gov, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New TeTeX Problem Message-ID: <20030309232528.N8642@freebsdmall.com> References: <94518.1047258673@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> <20030310043135.GA57758@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20030310043135.GA57758@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:31:35PM -0800 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:31:35PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I vaguely remember running into a problem like this when I upgraded my > teTeX port. I *think* that I solved this removing and reinstalling > jadetex, but I'm not sure. (BTW, I run an OpenJade-based toolchain, > so YMMV.) Sorry...my recollection is pretty hazy at this point. Yes, a format file in this context is jadetex.fmt. You need to rebuild the jadetex format file. There is slick TeX command to do this, but I don't recall it exactly and the port is relatively small so just reinstalling jadetex is your best bet. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 0:16:43 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B80737B404 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:16:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from cvis162.marconicomms.com (cvis162.marconicomms.com [128.87.251.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4D843F3F for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:16:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sje2bk@bk4957.de.marconicomms.com) Received: from cvis156.mail.marconicomms.com by cvis162.marconicomms.com with ESMTP (8.11.6+Sun/mcig-2) id h2A8GUc06210; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:16:30 GMT Received: from cvis01.marconicomms.com (unverified) by cvis155.mail.marconicomms.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.1) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:16:29 +0000 Received: from bk4957.de.marconicomms.com by cvis01.marconicomms.com with ESMTP (8.11.6+Sun/cvms-36) id h2A8GSq08950; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:16:28 GMT Received: from bk4957.de.marconicomms.com (localhost.de.marconicomms.com [127.0.0.1]) by bk4957.de.marconicomms.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2A8IpMj000390 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:18:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sje2bk@bk4957.de.marconicomms.com) Received: (from sje2bk@localhost) by bk4957.de.marconicomms.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2A8Ipbm000389 for docs@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:18:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:18:51 +0100 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: docs@freebsd.org Subject: man page entities buglet Message-ID: <20030310081851.GA257@bk4957.de.marconicomms.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, world\n it appears to me that the man page entities produce an extra white space at the front of a link text if the entity is not preceded by a space (at least for conversions to HTML). An example of this is can be seen in the "(&man.more.1; ..." rendering in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/stage1.html which is rendered as ( more(1) ^ extra space here. Can an SGML guru have a look at this? Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 3: 1: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DED37B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 03:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26D543F85; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 03:00:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2584A2105B; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 03:00:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 03:00:26 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: "M. Warner Losh" , doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: trhodes@FreeBSD.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/kbd kbd.c Message-ID: <20030310110025.GS79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <200303092249.h29Mnma3080700@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030309.172900.25160079.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030309225156.7c1ecc11.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030309.213022.95786550.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030310062717.GQ79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0WzQiIesntPPsVaS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030310062717.GQ79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0WzQiIesntPPsVaS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [move discussion to doc@] > > : Many tunables need documented, its something I've been looking > > : over. Perhaps a manual page with all the tunables, or a doc in > > : /usr/share, not sure yet. > >=20 > > Well, since this affects the kbd device, it should be in the > > kbd(4) man page, and maybe the kbdcontrol(1) man pages too. >=20 > Tunables all over hell and back is really frustrating for users who > don't know where to hunt for the meaning of sysctl's. I'm inclined > to think that sysctl(5) should be used as a table of contents of > sorts with pointers to other man pages (tuning(7), tcp(4), etc). > Sure this page will be huge, but it'll be a starting place for all > admins to find documentation on the output from sysctl -a. At one > point I had the ambition of normalizing this data in either text > files or XML but I've since given up on this and think that just > references from a central man page would suffice and would go a long > way toward improving the usability of FreeBSD. -sc mouth.put(money) It's just a skeleton at this point with only a few MIBs filled in, but unless there's a strong objection, it'd be great to get this flushed out over time. The man pages that the various MIBs reference should contain the appropriate information about what these MIB values mean and how to adjust them, and what levels are appropriate. http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sysctl_5_start It isn't automatically generated, but it's a start and given that there are only a handful of MIBs that come into existence every month or so, I think it's reasonable to have this file maintained by hand. -sc --=20 Sean Chittenden --0WzQiIesntPPsVaS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Sean Chittenden iD8DBQE+bHBJ3ZnjH7yEs0ERAhKfAJ9vTZbfRANgYm6RhAb+mOR433pjcQCguZ2E b7Jqpt6LUyglV9YZSBPOOv8= =8dXI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0WzQiIesntPPsVaS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 4:13:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB44037B401 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 04:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7295643FA3 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 04:13:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@straylight.ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 20731 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 12:08:44 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 12:08:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 82541 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Mar 2003 12:11:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:11:35 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Miroslav Pendev Cc: Dimitar Tanev , docs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Co-Work Message-ID: <20030310121135.GJ578@straylight.oblivion.bg> References: <895545145.1047239732730.JavaMail.nobody@java1.ni.bg> <20030309203746.GA1083@cybershade.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cW+P/jduATWpL925" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030309203746.GA1083@cybershade.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --cW+P/jduATWpL925 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 03:37:46PM -0500, Miroslav Pendev wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 09:55:32PM +0200, Dimitar Tanev wrote: > > Hello, > > =20 > > I want to translate FreeBSD Handbook from English to Bulgarian language. > > Is there any interest ? If yes, just write me back with details for our= co-work. > > =20 > > Regards, > > Dimitar Tanev >=20 > Hi Dimitar, >=20 > I am kinda working on the FDP primer and it is almost done. > Take a look at: www.cybershade.us/freebsd/bg/ >=20 > There is other people also interested in this, hope we will > have reply from them, too.... :-) >=20 > Petar Penchev may also be interested, hope we will hear from him... I have done quite a bit of work on the FDP build framework; there are still a couple of things to be done to get the DocBook pieces up and running. I guess y'all have heard this before (from me, too), but this time I mean it - things will be ready for setting up a coordinated effort, CVS repository and all, Real Soon Now(tm). It is great that people are interested in this; I'll post something here as soon as there is something more to post :) In the meantime, we could move this to the Bulgarian list doc-proj@FreeBSD-bg.org; also, there is the stable@FreeBSD-bg.org list - it is not really dedicated to documentation, but it'll do for the present. More information at http://FreeBSD-bg.org/maillist.html G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 I've heard that this sentence is a rumor. --cW+P/jduATWpL925 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+bID37Ri2jRYZRVMRAlEsAKCHUSId8rNQjGg2w2ZCyB3tiaVwQwCdEaMT rZ1jNOeAIx/8PBt8zha2r0o= =AcqB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cW+P/jduATWpL925-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 4:18:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCCC37B401 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 04:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA80E43F3F for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 04:18:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 21497 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 12:14:05 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 12:14:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 82906 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Mar 2003 12:16:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:16:55 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Victor Anyakin , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PPP Manual page Message-ID: <20030310121655.GK578@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Rhodes , Victor Anyakin , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20030308211153.23a0da0f.victorbob@bigmir.net> <20030308150358.1c127303.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HuXIgs6JvY9hJs5C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030308150358.1c127303.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --HuXIgs6JvY9hJs5C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 03:03:58PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:11:53 +0000 > Victor Anyakin wrote: >=20 > > Hello! > > I'm using FreeBSD-4.4, sought the trouble described below may also > > remain in FreeBSD-5.0 (according to the HTML-Man Pages at > > FreeBSD.org). It seems to me that the section of 'allow user[s]' > > directives of ppp manual page is out of date. As at the current moment > > ppp requires the user to be in a network group. And man page says > > nothing about such a requirement. > >=20 >=20 > Hello, >=20 > Do you have a replacement text idea that we can add? Perhaps it will > be of use to other users. Actually... what is wrong with the below - directly cut'n'pasted from the third bullet item in the GETTING STARTED section of http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dppp&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D8&manp= ath=3DFreeBSD+5.0-current&format=3Dhtml Make sure that your system has a group named ``network'' in the /etc/group file and that the group contains the names of all users expected to use ppp. Refer to the group(5) manual page for details. Each of these users must also be given access using the ``allow users'' command in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 If wishes were fishes, the antecedent of this conditional would be true. --HuXIgs6JvY9hJs5C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+bII37Ri2jRYZRVMRApaDAJ9iWr8DpL9EUhihYVm3PsMui2CFSwCeLfxC 6Yqd+nu7SpqRtGSmZHAY39c= =KUei -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HuXIgs6JvY9hJs5C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 4:58:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6AE37B401 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 04:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pat.uio.no (pat.uio.no [129.240.130.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A9A43F3F for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 04:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from niklasjs@ifi.uio.no) Received: from niu.ifi.uio.no ([129.240.65.209]) by pat.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #7) id 18sMrJ-0003F4-00 for FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:58:26 +0100 Received: from localhost (niklasjs@localhost) by niu.ifi.uio.no ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:58:25 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:58:25 +0100 (MET) From: Niklas Johannes Saers To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Couple of questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, a while ago I had a chat with Nik and he said that due to the increase in people, a new structure for the Documentation team was in the works and that the project organisation probably would be announced soon. I have not seen an announcement and could not find a charter on the pages, so I was wondering if this was still in the works and if so, if someone could outline what the team might look like? What kinds of duties would the documentation project manager have here, and are there other people with other duties within the project? Thanks in advance :) Niklas Saers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 9: 5:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297AF37B404; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7742543F75; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:05:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2AH5LV0015669; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:05:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:04:52 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Sean Chittenden Cc: imp@bsdimp.com, doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/kbd kbd.c Message-Id: <20030310120452.080838a6.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030310110025.GS79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <200303092249.h29Mnma3080700@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030309.172900.25160079.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030309225156.7c1ecc11.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030309.213022.95786550.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030310062717.GQ79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030310110025.GS79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 03:00:26 -0800 Sean Chittenden wrote: > [move discussion to doc@] > > > > : Many tunables need documented, its something I've been looking > > > : over. Perhaps a manual page with all the tunables, or a doc in > > > : /usr/share, not sure yet. > > > > > > Well, since this affects the kbd device, it should be in the > > > kbd(4) man page, and maybe the kbdcontrol(1) man pages too. > > > > Tunables all over hell and back is really frustrating for users who > > don't know where to hunt for the meaning of sysctl's. I'm inclined > > to think that sysctl(5) should be used as a table of contents of > > sorts with pointers to other man pages (tuning(7), tcp(4), etc). > > Sure this page will be huge, but it'll be a starting place for all > > admins to find documentation on the output from sysctl -a. At one > > point I had the ambition of normalizing this data in either text > > files or XML but I've since given up on this and think that just > > references from a central man page would suffice and would go a long > > way toward improving the usability of FreeBSD. -sc > > mouth.put(money) > > It's just a skeleton at this point with only a few MIBs filled in, but > unless there's a strong objection, it'd be great to get this flushed > out over time. The man pages that the various MIBs reference should > contain the appropriate information about what these MIB values mean > and how to adjust them, and what levels are appropriate. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sysctl_5_start > > It isn't automatically generated, but it's a start and given that > there are only a handful of MIBs that come into existence every month > or so, I think it's reasonable to have this file maintained by hand. > > -sc > > -- > Sean Chittenden > Its a wonderful start, perhaps I can use it as my starting point of work... -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 10:15:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CADD37B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mirror01.iptelecom.ua (mirror01.iptelecom.ua [212.9.224.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB8643F75; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:15:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from victorbob@bigmir.net) Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net ([212.9.224.5]:20492 "EHLO vircheck.ipcard.iptcom.net") by smtp1.iptelecom.net.ua with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:15:21 +0200 Received: from mail.i.com.ua (h105.227.dialup.iptcom.net [212.9.227.105]) by vircheck.ipcard.iptcom.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id h2AIF9UQ096142; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:15:10 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:43:01 +0000 From: Victor Anyakin To: Peter Pentchev Cc: trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PPP Manual page Message-Id: <20030310194301.2e2a0d9a.victorbob@bigmir.net> In-Reply-To: <20030310121655.GK578@straylight.oblivion.bg> References: <20030308211153.23a0da0f.victorbob@bigmir.net> <20030308150358.1c127303.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20030310121655.GK578@straylight.oblivion.bg> Organization: N/A X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsd4.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, yes, this information is given in manual page, thanks. But if a user seeks for the combination of 'allow users', then he can skip the section and will know nothing about group requirements. Best regards, Victor Anyakin On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:16:55 +0200 Peter Pentchev wrote: > On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 03:03:58PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 21:11:53 +0000 > > Victor Anyakin wrote: > > > > > Hello! > > > I'm using FreeBSD-4.4, sought the trouble described below may also > > > remain in FreeBSD-5.0 (according to the HTML-Man Pages at > > > FreeBSD.org). It seems to me that the section of 'allow user[s]' > > > directives of ppp manual page is out of date. As at the current moment > > > ppp requires the user to be in a network group. And man page says > > > nothing about such a requirement. > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Do you have a replacement text idea that we can add? Perhaps it will > > be of use to other users. > > Actually... what is wrong with the below - directly cut'n'pasted from the > third bullet item in the GETTING STARTED section of > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ppp&apropos=0&sektion=8&manpath=FreeBSD+5.0-current&format=html > > Make sure that your system has a group named ``network'' in the > /etc/group file and that the group contains the names of all users > expected to use ppp. Refer to the group(5) manual page for details. > Each of these users must also be given access using the ``allow > users'' command in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. > > G'luck, > Peter > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 11: 0:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E125E37B407 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E2143FE9 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:00:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2AJ0fNS002571 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:00:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2AJ0eWs002526 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:00:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:00:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200303101900.h2AJ0eWs002526@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [2001/10/31] i386/31671 doc 4.4 installer hangs at " Mounting root fr 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [1999/10/04] i386/14135 doc lpt1 nolonger exists after 3.2-RELEASE s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han o [2002/03/06] docs/35620 doc make release fails in documentation for R s [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/04/12] docs/37029 doc The translation in Italian language of th o [2002/08/20] docs/41824 doc LANG is not documented in setlocale(3) o [2002/08/22] docs/41892 doc Patch to fix slowdowns of documentation b o [2002/09/01] docs/42292 doc PPP documentation should use quote marks o [2002/09/02] docs/42339 doc Release process doesn't document required o [2002/09/13] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/10/07] docs/43776 doc /etc/sshd_config settings overridden by P o [2002/11/14] docs/45303 doc Bug in PDF DocBook rendering o [2002/12/15] docs/46286 doc there's an omission and an error in the n o [2003/02/19] docs/48472 doc Documentation unreadable. o [2003/02/26] docs/48728 doc Option "device agp" in GENERIC kernel on 18 problems total. 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Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/29] docs/26943 doc [patch] description of :C modifier is mis o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. o [2001/12/01] docs/32425 doc Document cvs update `P file' output o [2001/12/10] docs/32674 doc no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- o [2002/01/15] misc/33926 doc Search function on website can not access o [2002/02/15] bin/34955 doc [PATCH] ps(1) is out of touch with realit a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/03/03] docs/35523 doc manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) o [2002/03/05] docs/35575 doc Pw(8) man page makes no mention of /var/l o [2002/03/06] docs/35602 doc dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a o [2002/03/06] docs/35607 doc dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35647 doc www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/07] docs/35649 doc mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot. o [2002/03/07] docs/35652 doc bsd.README seriously obsolete o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/12] docs/35823 doc [PATCH] Little Restructuring of the Devel o [2002/03/15] docs/35941 doc cd(4) manual doesn't mention "target" use o [2002/03/15] docs/35942 doc at(1) manual doesn't describe at.allow an o [2002/03/15] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/15] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/18] docs/36055 doc [PATCH] adding some help-yourself-info to o [2002/03/20] misc/36154 doc Getting USB mouse to work: usbd and mouse o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/28] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin o [2002/03/28] docs/36459 doc tftp(1) manual's "get" syntax/description o [2002/03/29] docs/36524 doc bad links on handbook index page o [2002/04/01] docs/36628 doc header an footer of openssl manpages are o [2002/04/03] docs/36724 doc ipnat(5) manpage grammar is incomplete an o [2002/04/18] docs/37221 doc obsolete reference to seqpacket in mount_ o [2002/04/25] docs/37457 doc acpi(4) man page references non-existant o [2002/04/25] docs/37470 doc jail field not documented in procfs(5) o [2002/05/03] docs/37719 doc Detail VOP_ naming in a relevant man-page o [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/11] docs/37952 doc Typos, missing/incorrect accents in Itali o [2002/05/15] docs/38117 doc New FAQ entry for memory states o [2002/05/15] docs/38118 doc New FAQ entry for amount of free memory o [2002/05/18] docs/38225 doc change "CDROM" to "CD-ROM" o [2002/05/22] docs/38426 doc extra manpage .Xr to locate relevant sysc o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/27] docs/38647 doc cvsupit built-in instructions are slightl o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/02] docs/38815 doc Many typo fixed, and a question left unan o [2002/06/02] docs/38817 doc /usr/share/man/man8/boot.8.gz documents / o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/08] docs/39044 doc The man page for rot13(6) never mentions o [2002/06/10] docs/39129 doc handbook; type WRT simulating postscript o [2002/06/12] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/12] docs/39214 doc No my(4) man page o [2002/06/14] docs/39293 doc the dumpon man page incorrectly states th o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/19] docs/39532 doc 'find' man page should o [2002/06/24] docs/39822 doc firewall.7: change "Mbits" to "Mbits/s" a o [2002/06/24] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/07/04] docs/40196 doc man find does not describe -follow o [2002/07/05] docs/40234 doc Typos and language cleanup in /usr/share/ o [2002/07/07] docs/40313 doc Grammar, wording, and clarifications for o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/10] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/22] docs/40910 doc [PATCH] Typos & grammer fixes for /usr/sh o [2002/07/22] docs/40911 doc [PATCH] Minor improvements for /usr/share o [2002/07/24] docs/40952 doc login.conf should mention that "idletime" o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/07/29] docs/41110 doc "apropos linux" doesn't find brandelf o [2002/07/30] docs/41167 doc adventure.6 man-page, add section AUTHORS o [2002/08/02] docs/41263 doc [PATCH] Clarifications and minor grammer o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/07] docs/41423 doc Update FAQ: attrib command for windows du o [2002/08/12] docs/41578 doc Incorrect #include in the usb(4) manpage o [2002/08/12] docs/41580 doc usb(4) manpage: Structures' fields aren't o [2002/08/18] docs/41761 doc Update for /ru/internal/ part of site o [2002/08/19] docs/41787 doc man page for route (Section 8) missing de o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/19] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) o [2002/08/21] docs/41879 doc cleanup to DOCROOT/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl o [2002/08/22] docs/41919 doc MINI kernel for bootfloppy (Handbook p.34 a [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/09/01] docs/42293 doc copystr(9) man page incorrectly describes o [2002/09/26] docs/43410 doc hardware-i386.html doesn't even mention p o [2002/09/27] docs/43416 doc pw(8) -u uidmin,uidmax feature is out of o [2002/10/01] docs/43569 doc src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-dat o [2002/10/04] docs/43651 doc stab(5) incorrectly states to include jus o [2002/10/09] docs/43861 doc non-trivial typo in wicontrol man page f [2002/10/09] docs/43864 doc Minor documentation to add o [2002/10/10] docs/43899 doc incorrect info in man page for fetch (8) o [2002/10/11] docs/43941 doc Rationale for Upgrade Sequence o [2002/10/14] docs/44074 doc ln(1) manual clarifications [patch] o [2002/10/18] docs/44217 doc Problematic PDF version of handbook for 4 o [2002/10/19] docs/44296 doc Contributors page refers to History secti o [2002/10/21] docs/44337 doc [PATCH] netstat(1) manual references none o [2002/10/23] docs/44400 doc ipfw(8) has contradictions in bridged and o [2002/10/24] docs/44435 doc sysctl manpage: add example for tcsh o [2002/10/29] docs/44594 doc Handbook doesn't mention drivers.flp for o [2002/11/14] docs/45294 doc LINT notes are murky re PQ_CACHESIZE sett o [2002/11/17] docs/45371 doc man page for exports lacks information on o [2002/11/25] docs/45702 doc Error in manual page ssh_config(5) o [2002/12/02] docs/45940 doc burncd missing info o [2002/12/11] docs/46181 doc "make fetch-recursive" target description o [2002/12/11] docs/46196 doc Missing return value in (set_)menu_format o [2002/12/11] docs/46200 doc fix for ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/porters-handbo o [2002/12/16] docs/46291 doc correlation between HZ kernel config para o [2002/12/16] docs/46295 doc please add information to Nvi recovery em o [2003/01/02] docs/46709 doc tables in terminfo.5 are broken o [2003/01/05] docs/46793 doc DEVICE_POLLING can not be used with SMP, o [2003/01/09] docs/46919 doc setkey(8) references the wrong RFC for ES o [2003/01/14] docs/47085 doc boot(8) manpage is incomplete according t o [2003/01/27] docs/47575 doc Clarify requirements for IPFW2 in STABLE o [2003/01/28] docs/47594 doc [PATH] passwd(5) incorrectly states allow o [2003/01/30] docs/47690 doc builtin(1) manpage is wrong about externa o [2003/01/30] docs/47705 doc wc(1) manpage has poor explanations. o [2003/02/01] docs/47792 doc www/news/news.xml translated to .de f [2003/02/02] docs/47818 doc ln(1) manpage is confusing o [2003/02/02] docs/47824 doc auto-create plist chapter should mention o [2003/02/05] docs/47991 doc Handbook section on upgrading kernel says o [2003/02/06] docs/48018 doc telnetd(8) manpage appears incorrect rega o [2003/02/07] docs/48038 doc [PATCH] add Tips and Tricks section into o [2003/02/08] docs/48083 doc [PATCH] missing #include in manpage for i o [2003/02/08] docs/48097 doc Manual for camediaplay(1) falsely describ o [2003/02/08] docs/48101 doc There's no documentation on the fixit dis o [2003/02/08] docs/48104 doc disktab(1) manpage omits b0 and b1, etc. o [2003/02/12] docs/48210 doc make -q only does what the manpage says i o [2003/02/14] docs/48277 doc send-pr man page does not mention MAIL_AG o [2003/02/17] docs/48407 doc PPP section needs a cleanup. o [2003/02/19] docs/48466 doc Document undocumented option -l in netsta o [2003/02/20] docs/48493 doc missing range information in arc4random() o [2003/02/21] docs/48545 doc The information in Handbook regarding "Du o [2003/02/28] docs/48767 doc wrong key numbers for left/right windows o [2003/03/06] docs/48980 doc [PATCH] nsgmls -s errors and sect. 3.2.1 o [2003/03/07] docs/49014 doc incorrect tip in /usr/src/games/fortune/d o [2003/03/08] docs/49036 doc Add Sitecom multi-flash reader to umass(4 155 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 11:53:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A71D37B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-233-57-224.client.attbi.com [12.233.57.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E94943FAF; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:53:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2AJrOIX002898; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:53:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h2AJrNut002897; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:53:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:53:23 -0800 From: David Schultz To: Sean Chittenden Cc: "M. Warner Losh" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, trhodes@FreeBSD.ORG, dwmalone@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bcc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/kbd kbd.c Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <20030310110025.GS79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> [moving to doc@; please CC me] Thus spake Sean Chittenden : > It's just a skeleton at this point with only a few MIBs filled in, but > unless there's a strong objection, it'd be great to get this flushed > out over time. The man pages that the various MIBs reference should > contain the appropriate information about what these MIB values mean > and how to adjust them, and what levels are appropriate. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sysctl_5_start > > It isn't automatically generated, but it's a start and given that > there are only a handful of MIBs that come into existence every month > or so, I think it's reasonable to have this file maintained by hand. Very cool. I think it might be a better idea to move the centralized list to the handbook, since hypertext is a better medium for a list that will potentially be very long and contain many cross-references. Short descriptions next to MIBs would be nice. Also, sorting first by category and then by alphabetical order might be more helpful. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 11:56:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78F537B405 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:56:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from platypus.ociw.edu (platypus.ociw.edu [192.91.178.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9AB43F3F for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:56:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sutin@ociw.edu) Received: from ociw.edu (zot.ociw.edu [192.91.178.125]) by platypus.ociw.edu with ESMTP id h2AJufg04738 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:56:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3E6CEDF9.20AC5667@ociw.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:56:41 -0800 From: Brian Sutin Organization: The Observatories of the Carnegie Institution of Washington X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.9-34smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en, zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: DTD Definition Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! Just an observation... I was looking at the freebsd.org documentation on how to write documentation. I noticed that the acronym DTD appears first in section 2.1.2, but never seems to be defined. Perhaps that should be addressed bext time someone is mucking about with that document. Regards, Brian web ref: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/tools.html -- Brian M. Sutin Instrument Scientist Pasadena, CA The Observatories of the Carnegie Institution of Washington To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 12:35:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B16937B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3D443F3F; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:35:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2AKZ3EC034640; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:35:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2AKZ3If034639; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:35:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:35:03 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: David Schultz Cc: Sean Chittenden , "M. Warner Losh" , doc@freebsd.org, trhodes@freebsd.org, dwmalone@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20030310203503.GA34500@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:53:23AM -0800, David Schultz wrote: > Bcc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org= =20 > Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/kbd kbd.c > Reply-To:=20 > In-Reply-To: <20030310110025.GS79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> >=20 > [moving to doc@; please CC me] >=20 > Thus spake Sean Chittenden : > > It's just a skeleton at this point with only a few MIBs filled in, but > > unless there's a strong objection, it'd be great to get this flushed > > out over time. The man pages that the various MIBs reference should > > contain the appropriate information about what these MIB values mean > > and how to adjust them, and what levels are appropriate. > >=20 > > http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sysctl_5_start > >=20 > > It isn't automatically generated, but it's a start and given that > > there are only a handful of MIBs that come into existence every month > > or so, I think it's reasonable to have this file maintained by hand. >=20 > Very cool. I think it might be a better idea to move the > centralized list to the handbook, since hypertext is a better > medium for a list that will potentially be very long and contain > many cross-references. Short descriptions next to MIBs would be > nice. Also, sorting first by category and then by alphabetical > order might be more helpful. I vote for a manpage first. Although I agree with the fact that hyperlinks are better for information linking than SEE ALSO sections in a manpage, I think this sort of reference clearly belongs in the *man*ual. I look to the handbook when I have a specific task I want to do, not for reference. Now, the XML manpage stuff, that would really rock. But I'm not skilled enough at that to do anything about it, unfortunately. --Stijn --=20 "What kind of a two-bit operation are they running out of this treehouse, Cooper? I have seen some slipshod backwater burgs, but this place takes the cake." -- Special Agent Albert Rosenfield, "Twin Peaks" --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+bPb3Y3r/tLQmfWcRAn+gAJ0ZOBT0/jJ8bzYJDKJe2VDTyoaB4ACfYant 3XKthTEbnSTWz7wjmvAnQ/w= =ABcX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 12:41: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D72437B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:41:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EC243F93; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:41:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7909F2105B; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:40:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:40:35 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: David Schultz Cc: "M. Warner Losh" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, trhodes@FreeBSD.ORG, dwmalone@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > It's just a skeleton at this point with only a few MIBs filled in, > > but unless there's a strong objection, it'd be great to get this > > flushed out over time. The man pages that the various MIBs > > reference should contain the appropriate information about what > > these MIB values mean and how to adjust them, and what levels are > > appropriate. > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sysctl_5_start > > > > It isn't automatically generated, but it's a start and given that > > there are only a handful of MIBs that come into existence every > > month or so, I think it's reasonable to have this file maintained > > by hand. > > Very cool. I think it might be a better idea to move the > centralized list to the handbook, since hypertext is a better medium > for a list that will potentially be very long and contain many > cross-references. Short descriptions next to MIBs would be nice. > Also, sorting first by category and then by alphabetical order might > be more helpful. ::shakes head violently in disagreement:: NOOOOOOOOO!!!! :-P While I agree with you on the technological front regarding hyper-links, the whole point of having this in a man page is to be able to help the admin that's up late at night trying to figure out why a certain value is set to what and where to change it in the config. If we'd like to have this in the handbook, so be it, but I think the primary effort should be in mdoc for usability and ease of use (unless of course the mdoc sources are built from DocBook: see earlier post on the topic). -sc -- Sean Chittenden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 12:59:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0729237B401 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48D843FCB for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 18sUMU-000BEj-00; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:59:06 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:59:06 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: Niklas Johannes Saers Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Couple of questions Message-ID: <20030310205906.GB39622@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Niklas Johannes Saers , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 01:58:25PM +0100, Niklas Johannes Saers wrote: > Hi, > a while ago I had a chat with Nik and he said that due to the increase in > people, a new structure for the Documentation team was in the works and > that the project organisation probably would be announced soon. I have not > seen an announcement and could not find a charter on the pages, so I was > wondering if this was still in the works and if so, if someone could > outline what the team might look like? What kinds of duties would the > documentation project manager have here, and are there other people with > other duties within the project? http://www.freebsd.org/internal/doceng.html Ceri [Apologies for the one line answer, I am busy off my face] -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 13:56:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881FB37B405 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:56:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DE143FBF for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:56:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from apeiron@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (pcp01380957pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.162.166]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HBJ004JJZM00N@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:56:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:56:48 -0500 From: Christopher Nehren Subject: Last sentence in md5(1) is a bit misleading To: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Message-id: <1047333408.1687.28.camel@prophecy> Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-VQeCjy1WbkYC6VTG3FMk"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=-VQeCjy1WbkYC6VTG3FMk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings. "This program is placed in the public domain for free general use by RSA Data Security." I know that I'm extremely picky for pointing this out, but that sentence could be interpreted as meaning anyone outside of RSA is unable (legally or otherwise) to use the program. A possible replacement (also using the active voice) is: "RSA Data Security placed this program in the public domain, for general use." One more thing. If I notice little things like this in the future, should I use send-pr, or submit them directly to this list? Best regards, Christopher Nehren --=-VQeCjy1WbkYC6VTG3FMk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+bQogUdqurN0fljsRAoNIAKCkLi3bBppcCPqBv/4bkP+rXWkVcwCfTgat 9TeSvej/a+jv/2vdElvpkAc= =3/DR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-VQeCjy1WbkYC6VTG3FMk-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 15:19:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077B237B404 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:19:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F7D43FAF for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:19:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7F40E2105B; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:19:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:19:07 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Updated sendfile(2)... Message-ID: <20030310231907.GX79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lYtTbTuCUQxZgETo" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --lYtTbTuCUQxZgETo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Small but important update for sendfile(2) to include a TUNING section. This patch also updates tuning(7) to include a reference to sendfile(2)'s TUNING section. http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sendfile_2_tuning -sc PS I know alc has a patch in the wings that will require me to update this slightly to note that it is no longer a 1:1 correlation between sf_buf's and mbuf's, but I'm keeping tabs on his work there. --=20 Sean Chittenden --lYtTbTuCUQxZgETo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Sean Chittenden iD8DBQE+bR1r3ZnjH7yEs0ERAoPxAKDeWT2ZWSfVULvXcGWkoWcWNzDXrQCbBXjp J8aTt0niuKx2rCgguOUrjcg= =/4FA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lYtTbTuCUQxZgETo-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 15:25:40 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1142837B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC9843FBF; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:25:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a084.otenet.gr [212.205.215.84]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2ANPYNJ014260; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:25:35 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2ANPYTf006977; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:25:34 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2ANPYfm006976; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:25:34 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:25:34 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jens Schweikhardt Cc: docs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: man page entities buglet Message-ID: <20030310232534.GA6949@gothmog.gr> References: <20030310081851.GA257@bk4957.de.marconicomms.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030310081851.GA257@bk4957.de.marconicomms.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-03-10 09:18, Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > hello, world\n > > it appears to me that the man page entities produce an extra white space > at the front of a link text if the entity is not preceded by a space (at > least for conversions to HTML). An example of this is can be seen in the > "(&man.more.1; ..." rendering in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/stage1.html > > which is rendered as > > ( more(1) > ^ > extra space here. > > Can an SGML guru have a look at this? This is a bug of tidy(1), which makes one of the HTML mistakes I vehemently hate. If you build the article with NO_TIDY=yes, you will notice that the tags ... have no spurious whitespace after and right before . I think we should notify the tidy(1) developers about this and see if there is an option that can inhibit this behavior. I couldn't find one by quickly reading through the tidy manpage. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 15:28:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B313137B401 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ALille-103-1-1-176.abo.wanadoo.fr (ALille-103-1-1-176.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.48.5.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 563E843FA3 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:28:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from al2000@pisem.net) From: ADMIN To: Doc Subject: Áàçû äàííûõ è äèðåêò ìàðêåòèíã TKvW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030310232818.563E843FA3@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:28:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Post Message
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 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 15:31:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EB737B401 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA38343F3F for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:31:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8C31910BF94; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:31:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:31:17 +0100 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD from scratch doesn't work with OBJDIR Message-ID: <20030310233116.GA1251@nitro.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="FCuugMFkClbJLl1L" Content-Disposition: inline --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello If the obj directory exists (by doing 'make obj') the FreeBSD from scrath article breaks the doc build. I have attached a patch that unbreaks the build and install the shell scripts (stage_[123].sh) correctly to the destination dir. Btw. this could be done in a more clean way using FILES (from bsd.files.mk) but the doc build system does not seem to support this? The inline versions in the article still don't work with obj directory but I don't know how to fix that... --=20 Simon L. Nielsen --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="doc-fbsd-scract-obj-build.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: Makefile =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/Makefil= e,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -d -r1.1 Makefile --- Makefile 8 Mar 2003 08:26:10 -0000 1.1 +++ Makefile 10 Mar 2003 23:10:11 -0000 @@ -18,6 +18,8 @@ DOC_PREFIX?=3D ${.CURDIR}/../../.. =20 afterinstall: - ${INSTALL_DOCS} stage_1.sh stage_2.sh stage_3.mk ${DESTDIR} + ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${.CURDIR}/stage_1.sh ${DESTDIR} + ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${.CURDIR}/stage_2.sh ${DESTDIR} + ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${.CURDIR}/stage_3.mk ${DESTDIR} =20 .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L-- --7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+bSBE8kocFXgPTRwRAlgoAJ9bHa+oltgDpzV6Soq056XUSWU/6gCcDH89 CtbH6PeDxAHCpows/GNLlDU= =ZxY0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 15:38:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39DF37B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5BD43FBF; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:38:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a084.otenet.gr [212.205.215.84]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2ANc5NJ027920; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:38:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2ANc5Tf007159; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:38:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2ANc5NN007158; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:38:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:38:05 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Sean Chittenden Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated sendfile(2)... Message-ID: <20030310233805.GA7010@gothmog.gr> References: <20030310231907.GX79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030310231907.GX79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-03-10 15:19, Sean Chittenden wrote: > Small but important update for sendfile(2) to include a TUNING > section. This patch also updates tuning(7) to include a reference to > sendfile(2)'s TUNING section. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sendfile_2_tuning Seems ok. Just a few minor details that I noticed are shown below: : Index: share/man/man7/tuning.7 : =================================================================== : RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man7/tuning.7,v : retrieving revision 1.59 : diff -u -r1.59 tuning.7 : --- share/man/man7/tuning.7 27 Dec 2002 12:15:34 -0000 1.59 : +++ share/man/man7/tuning.7 10 Mar 2003 23:12:28 -0000 : @@ -774,7 +774,11 @@ : with : .Va kern.maxusers : so you should not need to modify this parameter except under extreme : -circumstances. : +circumstances. See the : +.Dq TUNING : +section in the : +.Xr sendfile 2 : +man page for details. You should probably avoid starting a sentence on the same line as the previous sentence here: +See the +.Dq TUNING +section in the +.Xr sendfile 2 +man page for details. This is a shorter diff and doesn't touch parts of the mdoc source that don't need to be touched anyway :) : --- lib/libc/sys/sendfile.2 19 Dec 2002 09:40:25 -0000 1.16 : +++ lib/libc/sys/sendfile.2 10 Mar 2003 23:12:28 -0000 : @@ -106,6 +106,41 @@ : implementation of : .Fn sendfile : is "zero-copy", meaning that it has been optimized so that copying of the file data is avoided. : +.Sh TUNING : +Internally this system call uses a special : +.Xr sendfile 2 : +buffer : +.Pq Fa struct sf_buf Quote this: .Pq Fa "struct sf_buf" : +to handle sending file data to the client. If the sending socket is : +blocking and there are not enough sendfile buffers available, Start sentences on new line. : +If the sending socket is non-blocking and there are not enough : +sendfile buffers available, the call will block and wait for the : +necessary buffers to become available before finishing the call. : +.Pp : +The number of : +.Fa sf_buf's Not quite right. This will mark up the 's part as Fa too. You can always write this as: .Fa sf_buf Ns s or even, if you like the 's thing, like this: .Fa sf_buf Ns 's : +allocated should be proportional to the number of nmbclusters used to : +send data to a client via : +.Xr sendfile 2 : : +tune accordingly to avoid blocking! Busy installations that make : +tune accordingly to avoid blocking! Busy installations that make : +extensive use of : +.Xr sendfile 2 "Tune accordingly..." is really a new sentence here. Breaking the lines at the end of the sentences, this can be written as: +allocated should be proportional to the number of nmbclusters used to +send data to a client via +.Xr sendfile 2. +Tune accordingly to avoid blocking! +Busy installations that make extensive use of +.Xr sendfile 2 ... : +kernel configuration tunable. The number of sendfile buffers scales with Break at end of sentence here too. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 16:19:43 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C9137B401 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C66843F75 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:19:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown[12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with ESMTP id <20030311001940002002jk2oe>; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:19:40 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2B0IH5F013841; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:18:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h2B0IAcM013838; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:18:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Christopher Nehren Cc: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Last sentence in md5(1) is a bit misleading References: <1047333408.1687.28.camel@prophecy> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 10 Mar 2003 16:18:10 -0800 In-Reply-To: <1047333408.1687.28.camel@prophecy> Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christopher Nehren writes: > "This program is placed in the public domain for free general use by RSA > Data Security." > > I know that I'm extremely picky for pointing this out, but that sentence > could be interpreted as meaning anyone outside of RSA is unable (legally > or otherwise) to use the program. I think it can only be interpreted as intended or as being self-contradictory, so that one should be able to assume that readers will interprete it as indended. But your version is better, of course. But, IIRC (but I might be confusing it with some other crypto), RSA put their patented idea into the public domain a few weeks before their patent expired. I'm not sure about the status of the copyright on the "program", but the file /usr/src/sbin/md5/md5.c says it is derived from code with this copyright: Copyright (C) 1990-2, RSA Data Security, Inc. Created 1990. All rights reserved. If that is still valid, the acknowledgment seems invalid. If nobody here knows for sure, you might ask on -chat or -hackers. > One more thing. If I notice little things like this in the future, > should I use send-pr, or submit them directly to this list? You should use send-pr (e-mail or web form), but a simple message is better than nothing. Your efforts are much more likely to get results if you use send-pr, generally speaking. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 16:20:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26FF37B401 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DAC43FDF for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:20:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003031100204500300o36k9e>; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:20:45 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2B0KjWp065405 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:20:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2B0Kjk6065404 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:20:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:20:44 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: HEADSUP: doc/ tree slush begins now Message-ID: <20030311002044.GA65315@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As announced earlier (and as documented in the 4.8 release schedule), the doc/ tree is now in a slush, to give translators a chance to synchronize with the en_US.ISO8859-1 subtree. Please postpone all non-essential changes until after the doc/ tree is tagged (currently scheduled for 14 March). Thanks! Bruce. (For doceng@ and re@) ----- Forwarded message from "Bruce A. Mah" ----- Subject: HEADSUP: doc/ tree slush on 10 March From: "Bruce A. Mah" Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 07:43:23 -0800 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" X-UIDL: a52ff95a4a6b59f3e753f2ce93a0da67 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) Hi everybody-- In order to allow our translation teams time to finish their work for the impending 4.8-RELEASE, we are going to have a "slush" (a "soft freeze") on the doc/ tree beginning on 10 March. This note is a first notification of the slush. The doc/ slush means basically means that any non-essential changes (particularly those that need to be translated) should be delayed until after the doc/ tree has been tagged for the release. The doc/ tree tagging is currently scheduled for 14 March, with the release of 4.8 scheduled for 17 March. Note that in contrast to the "hard freezes" currently in effect for the src/ and ports/ trees, the doc/ slush is less strict. There is no formal "request to commit" policy, and we basically rely on the judgement of doc committers to "do the right thing". When in doubt, feel free to ask doceng@ or post a note to the doc@ mailing list. Note that the www/ tree is specifically *not* affected and remains open for commits. Thanks! Bruce. (For doceng@ and re@) ----- End forwarded message ----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+bSvc2MoxcVugUsMRAlloAJ9INyFm3gCly6ES5vsaeNes6GycAgCdHeU0 JOGMecVfucdVW23iLLGRzgk= =arrN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 16:24:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6598537B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:24:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD2943F85; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:24:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 157672105B; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:24:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:24:06 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated sendfile(2)... Message-ID: <20030311002406.GZ79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <20030310231907.GX79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030310233805.GA7010@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GXtmylMy6DdaH5oR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030310233805.GA7010@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --GXtmylMy6DdaH5oR Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8c7vHYlrYOebzgj6" Content-Disposition: inline --8c7vHYlrYOebzgj6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Small but important update for sendfile(2) to include a TUNING > > section. This patch also updates tuning(7) to include a reference to > > sendfile(2)'s TUNING section. > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sendfile_2_tuning >=20 > Seems ok. Just a few minor details that I noticed are shown below: >=20 > Start sentences on new line. This is a shorter diff and doesn't > touch parts of the mdoc source that don't need to be touched anyway > :) >=20 > Quote this: >=20 > .Pq Fa "struct sf_buf" Thanks for the style notes. Updated patch attached. -sc http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sendfile_2_tuning --=20 Sean Chittenden --8c7vHYlrYOebzgj6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=patch Index: lib/libc/sys/sendfile.2 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/sys/sendfile.2,v retrieving revision 1.16 diff -u -r1.16 sendfile.2 --- lib/libc/sys/sendfile.2 19 Dec 2002 09:40:25 -0000 1.16 +++ lib/libc/sys/sendfile.2 11 Mar 2003 00:19:32 -0000 @@ -106,6 +106,43 @@ implementation of .Fn sendfile is "zero-copy", meaning that it has been optimized so that copying of the file data is avoided. +.Sh TUNING +Internally this system call uses a special +.Xr sendfile 2 +buffer +.Pq Fa "struct sf_buf" +to handle sending file data to the client. +If the sending socket is +blocking and there are not enough sendfile buffers available, +.Xr sendfile 2 +will block and report a state of +.Dq sfbufa . +If the sending socket is non-blocking and there are not enough +sendfile buffers available, the call will block and wait for the +necessary buffers to become available before finishing the call. +.Pp +The number of +.Fa sf_buf Ns 's +allocated should be proportional to the number of nmbclusters used to +send data to a client via +.Xr sendfile 2 . +Tune accordingly to avoid blocking! +Busy installations that make extensive use of +.Xr sendfile 2 +may want to increase these values to be inline with their +.Ar kern.ipc.nmbclusters +.Pq see Xr tuning 7 for details . +.Pp +The number of +.Xr sendfile 2 +buffers in use is determined at boot time by either the +.Em kern.ipc.nsfbufs +.Xr loader.conf 5 +variable or the +.Em NSFBUFS +kernel configuration tunable. +The number of sendfile buffers scales with +.Em kern.maxusers . .Sh RETURN VALUES .Rv -std sendfile .Sh ERRORS @@ -161,6 +198,7 @@ .Xr open 2 , .Xr send 2 , .Xr socket 2 , +.Xr tuning 7 , .Xr writev 2 .Sh HISTORY The Index: share/man/man7/tuning.7 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man7/tuning.7,v retrieving revision 1.59 diff -u -r1.59 tuning.7 --- share/man/man7/tuning.7 27 Dec 2002 12:15:34 -0000 1.59 +++ share/man/man7/tuning.7 11 Mar 2003 00:19:32 -0000 @@ -775,6 +775,11 @@ .Va kern.maxusers so you should not need to modify this parameter except under extreme circumstances. +See the +.Dq TUNING +section in the +.Xr sendfile 2 +man page for details. .Sh KERNEL CONFIG TUNING There are a number of kernel options that you may have to fiddle with in a large-scale system. --8c7vHYlrYOebzgj6-- --GXtmylMy6DdaH5oR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Sean Chittenden iD8DBQE+bSym3ZnjH7yEs0ERAv5LAKCd9lKoX5euDkV4xJVHeKP08olU0ACffq2N vUiIusrW9d+6SyDv+O91fQs= =UjLh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GXtmylMy6DdaH5oR-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 16:57:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496EE37B404 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:57:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A9A43F75 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:57:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from apeiron@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (pcp01380957pcs.levtwn01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.162.166]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HBK001B37ZPXK@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:57:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:57:51 -0500 From: Christopher Nehren Subject: Re: Last sentence in md5(1) is a bit misleading In-reply-to: To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: FreeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Message-id: <1047344271.3393.22.camel@prophecy> Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-23vzUveM+eDwDOLNMpxa"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 References: <1047333408.1687.28.camel@prophecy> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=-23vzUveM+eDwDOLNMpxa Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 19:18, Gary W. Swearingen wrote:=20 > I think it can only be interpreted as intended or as being > self-contradictory, so that one should be able to assume that readers > will interprete it as indended. But your version is better, of course. I agree that, generally speaking, it's not too difficult to see the intended meaning. My aim was to eliminate any possible amiguity -- the usage of the passive voice was pure happenstance. =3D) > But, IIRC (but I might be confusing it with some other crypto), RSA put > their patented idea into the public domain a few weeks before their > patent expired. I'm not sure about the status of the copyright on the > "program", but the file /usr/src/sbin/md5/md5.c says it is derived from > code with this copyright: >=20 > Copyright (C) 1990-2, RSA Data Security, Inc. Created 1990. > All rights reserved. >=20 > If that is still valid, the acknowledgment seems invalid. Frankly speaking, I wasn't aware that the issue to which I was referring ma= y not even be valid. Next time I'll investigate, heh. > nobody here knows for sure, you might ask on -chat or -hackers. Will do, thanks for the idea. > You should use send-pr (e-mail or web form), but a simple message is > better than nothing. Your efforts are much more likely to get results > if you use send-pr, generally speaking. Understood, and thanks again. --=-23vzUveM+eDwDOLNMpxa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+bTSPUdqurN0fljsRAoKpAJ97zGPAfZos57hgHDoW5fE47XAtiwCgsSnc 1xQvfqy/T4+jL5qUQenFkXc= =5FRL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-23vzUveM+eDwDOLNMpxa-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 16:58:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B9437B404; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD0E43FAF; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:58:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90BE551A55; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:29:24 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:29:24 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Murray Stokely Cc: jared nied , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OS X vs. Darwin Message-ID: <20030311005924.GD45912@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3464BCFE-4FD2-11D7-A6E7-000393BB8320@southampton.liu.edu> <20030308043937.M79531@freebsdmall.com> <20030309220048.GD38342@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030309222102.G8642@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d01dLTUuW90fS44H" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030309222102.G8642@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --d01dLTUuW90fS44H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 9 March 2003 at 22:21:02 -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:30:48AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> Hmm. I'll leave it for others to decide, but my understanding is that >> Darwin and the lower levels of Mac OS X are *not* identical, that you >> can't replace one with the other for example. Is this correct? If >> so, the text below as it stands is incorrect. > > The proposed change doesn't claim that they are identical. It > sounds like you are objecting to this sentence : > > "The BSD Unix core of this operating system, Darwin, is available as a > fully functional open source operating system for x86 and PPC > computers." > > The next sentence goes on to clarify that much of the Mac OS X code > is closed source and, implicitly, not in Darwin and not > interchangeable. > > "The Aqua/Quartz graphics system and many other proprietary aspects of > Mac OS X remain closed-source, however." > > I think this is a pretty clear and succinct way to state the > relationship between Darwin and Mac OS X. If you can think of a > better way, please commit it. In any case, we've cleared up the major > inaccuracy which was claiming that Darwin is just the kernel (XNU). Yes, this looks OK. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --d01dLTUuW90fS44H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+bTTsIubykFB6QiMRAjIaAJ0XRD8AQizENDiR3PISAvdNNVqu6ACeKVKM pYi7Y2/bnlQB0jHAyCrs5j4= =Wd1f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d01dLTUuW90fS44H-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 17:21: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF09637B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6118843F85; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:21:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b188.otenet.gr [212.205.244.196]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2B1L0NJ001412; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:21:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2B1KxTf008392; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:20:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2B1KxmZ008391; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:20:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:20:59 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Sean Chittenden Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Updated sendfile(2)... Message-ID: <20030311012059.GA7701@gothmog.gr> References: <20030310231907.GX79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030310233805.GA7010@gothmog.gr> <20030311002406.GZ79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311002406.GZ79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-03-10 16:24, Sean Chittenden wrote: > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sendfile_2_tuning > > > > Seems ok. Just a few minor details that I noticed are shown below: > > Thanks for the style notes. Updated patch attached. -sc > http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sendfile_2_tuning Looking at the source of uipc_syscalls.c I can quickly spot the part that implements exactly the sort of behavior you describe. If nobody else has comments on the content of the patch (i.e. someone with more knowledge of the kernel internals), I say commit it :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 17:36:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B33137B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:36:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22C243F75; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:36:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D8CD2105B; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:35:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:35:46 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Updated sendfile(2)... Message-ID: <20030311013546.GB79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <20030310231907.GX79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030310233805.GA7010@gothmog.gr> <20030311002406.GZ79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311012059.GA7701@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311012059.GA7701@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sendfile_2_tuning > > > > > > Seems ok. Just a few minor details that I noticed are shown below: > > > > Thanks for the style notes. Updated patch attached. -sc > > http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sendfile_2_tuning > > Looking at the source of uipc_syscalls.c I can quickly spot the part > that implements exactly the sort of behavior you describe. If > nobody else has comments on the content of the patch (i.e. someone > with more knowledge of the kernel internals), I say commit it :) Quite familiar with the problem and the internals in this area. Here's a patch for the problem: http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/patch-HEAD-src::sys::kern::uipc_syscalls.c And a description of the problem/fix: http://people.freebsd.org/~seanc/patches/#sendfile_no_block -sc -- Sean Chittenden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 18:50:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80FE37B401 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from CPE00045ae20c26-CM014340002296.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE00045ae20c26-CM014340002296.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.42.44.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2112D43F75 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:50:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grhmxqf@mail.com) From: Ïèâîâàðîâ To: Faq Subject: Faq, Áóäó ðàä çíàêîìñòâó ñ Âàìè! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 20:52:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3B437B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-233-57-224.client.attbi.com [12.233.57.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C634E43FB1; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:52:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.org) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2B4qdIX004403; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:52:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h2B4qdPn004402; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:52:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:52:39 -0800 From: David Schultz To: Sean Chittenden Cc: "M. Warner Losh" , doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Sean Chittenden : > > Very cool. I think it might be a better idea to move the > > centralized list to the handbook, since hypertext is a better medium > > for a list that will potentially be very long and contain many > > cross-references. Short descriptions next to MIBs would be nice. > > Also, sorting first by category and then by alphabetical order might > > be more helpful. > > ::shakes head violently in disagreement:: > > NOOOOOOOOO!!!! :-P While I agree with you on the technological front > regarding hyper-links, the whole point of having this in a man page is > to be able to help the admin that's up late at night trying to figure > out why a certain value is set to what and where to change it in the > config. If we'd like to have this in the handbook, so be it, but I > think the primary effort should be in mdoc for usability and ease of > use (unless of course the mdoc sources are built from DocBook: see > earlier post on the topic). -sc Actually, I was thinking of the fact that properly laid out DocBook can be converted into a (slightly more concise) mdoc file. I have nothing against a manpage listing all of the sysctls, but I think that centralizing the information in an SGML-based format would be much more useful in the long run. And since you can make a manpage out of that, the only disadvantage I see is the extra work to put together the DocBook stuff and figure out how to do the conversion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 21: 1:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D0437B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7ED743F93; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:01:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2B518V0016838; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:01:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:00:38 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: David Schultz Cc: seanc@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-Id: <20030311000038.7963f10e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:52:39 -0800 David Schultz wrote: > > Actually, I was thinking of the fact that properly laid out > DocBook can be converted into a (slightly more concise) mdoc file. > I have nothing against a manpage listing all of the sysctls, but I > think that centralizing the information in an SGML-based format > would be much more useful in the long run. And since you can make > a manpage out of that, the only disadvantage I see is the extra > work to put together the DocBook stuff and figure out how to do > the conversion. > There is a utility out there which converts mdoc(7) to HTML, we just need to do that. I've been asked to look into this and am currently doing the `brainstorm' thing. Hopefully I'll have something to commit by the end of this month. -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 21: 3:10 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E004637B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:03:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCAC43F85; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:03:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9B11B2105B; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:02:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:02:39 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: David Schultz Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20030311050239.GG79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Actually, I was thinking of the fact that properly laid out DocBook > can be converted into a (slightly more concise) mdoc file. I have > nothing against a manpage listing all of the sysctls, but I think > that centralizing the information in an SGML-based format would be > much more useful in the long run. And since you can make a manpage > out of that, the only disadvantage I see is the extra work to put ^^^^^^^^^^ I don't disagree with 'ya in any way, shape, or form, it's just that the "extra work" bit isn't likely to be trivial and I don't want it to stand in the way of being able to type "man 5 sysctl" and get some kind of help as to what each sysctl MIB means.... but I'd love to be proven wrong. :) -sc > together the DocBook stuff and figure out how to do the conversion. -- Sean Chittenden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 21:37:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9C337B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:37:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-233-57-224.client.attbi.com [12.233.57.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F0943FCB; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:37:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.org) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2B5bqIX004550; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:37:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h2B5bpRt004549; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:37:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:37:51 -0800 From: David Schultz To: Tom Rhodes Cc: seanc@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20030311053751.GA4521@HAL9000.homeunix.com> References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030311000038.7963f10e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311000038.7963f10e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Tom Rhodes : > David Schultz wrote: > > Actually, I was thinking of the fact that properly laid out > > DocBook can be converted into a (slightly more concise) mdoc file. > > I have nothing against a manpage listing all of the sysctls, but I > > think that centralizing the information in an SGML-based format > > would be much more useful in the long run. And since you can make > > a manpage out of that, the only disadvantage I see is the extra > > work to put together the DocBook stuff and figure out how to do > > the conversion. > > There is a utility out there which converts mdoc(7) to HTML, we > just need to do that. I've been asked to look into this and am > currently doing the `brainstorm' thing. Hopefully I'll have > something to commit by the end of this month. Converting the other way doesn't work as well. DocBook can contain all sorts of useful metadata about the content of the document, whereas mdoc wasn't designed for that. For instance, the DocBook file might contain MIB names, short descriptions of the knobs, references to manpages, and links to longer descriptions and related MIBs. You could automatically convert it to an mdoc file that contains only the MIB names and references to other manpages. With mdoc, you only get that kind of control if you plan the document very carefully and cook up some macros. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 10 23:26:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DA537B401; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from atnsmtp91.24on.cc (ATNSMTP91.24on.cc [213.225.2.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43FB43F93; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:26:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tilman@arved.de) Received: from 21322530218.direct.eti.at ([213.225.30.218]) by atnsmtp91.24on.cc with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:30:29 +0100 Received: from huckfinn.arved.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 21322530218.direct.eti.at (8.12.8/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2B7WBOK090333; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:32:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tilman@arved.de) Received: (from tilman@localhost) by huckfinn.arved.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2B7WAa2090332; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:32:10 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: huckfinn.arved.de: tilman set sender to tilman@arved.de using -f Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:32:09 +0100 From: Tilman Linneweh To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: docs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: man page entities buglet Message-ID: <20030311073209.GA90301@huckfinn.arved.de> References: <20030310081851.GA257@bk4957.de.marconicomms.com> <20030310232534.GA6949@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030310232534.GA6949@gothmog.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> ( more(1) >> ^ >> extra space here. >> >> Can an SGML guru have a look at this? >=20 > This is a bug of tidy(1), which makes one of the HTML mistakes I > vehemently hate. If you build the article with NO_TIDY=3Dyes, you will > notice that the tags ... have no spurious > whitespace after and right before . >=20 > I think we should notify the tidy(1) developers about this and see if > there is an option that can inhibit this behavior. I couldn't find > one by quickly reading through the tidy manpage. I have not tried it yet, but perhaps it is fixed in www/tidy-devel. regards tilman --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+bZD3fCLDn4B6xToRAuNDAJwLZ3dJwu/qT5Vk5Ob4BlMpCl+2ewCgi9VT 17Gvtgr+NCH6o8BCng+EPh8= =F5Ve -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 3:22:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2F937B401 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 689EF43FA3 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 28462 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 11:18:18 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 11:18:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 10913 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Mar 2003 11:21:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:21:06 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: David Schultz Cc: Sean Chittenden , "M. Warner Losh" , doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20030311112105.GO578@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: David Schultz , Sean Chittenden , "M. Warner Losh" , doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EqVOK5mkaJAMmtSx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --EqVOK5mkaJAMmtSx Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="sMkrXc3gAYLRVOjR" Content-Disposition: inline --sMkrXc3gAYLRVOjR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:52:39PM -0800, David Schultz wrote: > Thus spake Sean Chittenden : > > > Very cool. I think it might be a better idea to move the > > > centralized list to the handbook, since hypertext is a better medium > > > for a list that will potentially be very long and contain many > > > cross-references. Short descriptions next to MIBs would be nice. > > > Also, sorting first by category and then by alphabetical order might > > > be more helpful. > >=20 > > ::shakes head violently in disagreement:: > >=20 > > NOOOOOOOOO!!!! :-P While I agree with you on the technological front > > regarding hyper-links, the whole point of having this in a man page is > > to be able to help the admin that's up late at night trying to figure > > out why a certain value is set to what and where to change it in the > > config. If we'd like to have this in the handbook, so be it, but I > > think the primary effort should be in mdoc for usability and ease of > > use (unless of course the mdoc sources are built from DocBook: see > > earlier post on the topic). -sc >=20 > Actually, I was thinking of the fact that properly laid out > DocBook can be converted into a (slightly more concise) mdoc file. > I have nothing against a manpage listing all of the sysctls, but I > think that centralizing the information in an SGML-based format > would be much more useful in the long run. And since you can make > a manpage out of that, the only disadvantage I see is the extra > work to put together the DocBook stuff and figure out how to do > the conversion. I wonder if plain XML and an XSL transformation would not be a bit easier to do (and possibly maintain) than all the additional hairiness that, with all due respect, DocBook would add. Attached is a simple example that still needs quite a lot of work on the formatting front, especially WRT trimming leading spaces, but it demonstrates the basic idea. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 This sentence no verb. --sMkrXc3gAYLRVOjR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="sysctl.5.xml" General kernel control OS name A long-winded description of what an Operating System is, and why it needs a name. The current securelevel value What do we need this for, how it operates, why it can only go up, never down. Virtual memory control The system load average How hard could it be to bring the system down? Swap status or something Do we want swap or not.. --sMkrXc3gAYLRVOjR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="sysctl2mdoc.xsl" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .\" Copyright line 1 =2E\" Copyright line 2 =2E\" =2E\" This is an automatically generated file, do not edit and stuff =2E\" =2EDd Hmm where do we get this from? =2EDd January 23, 2001 =2EDt SYSCTL 5 =2EOs =2ESh NAME =2ENm sysctl .Pp =2ESh =20 .Bl -tag -width 6n .El .It Li --sMkrXc3gAYLRVOjR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Makefile XSLTPROC?= xsltproc XSLTPROCOPTS?= -nonet XSLSHEET= sysctl2mdoc.xsl SOURCES= sysctl.5.xml RESULT= ${SOURCES:S/.xml//} ${RESULT}: ${SOURCES} ${XSLSHEET} ${XSLTPROC} ${XSLTPROCOPTS} -o ${RESULT} ${XSLSHEET} ${SOURCES} --sMkrXc3gAYLRVOjR-- --EqVOK5mkaJAMmtSx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+bcah7Ri2jRYZRVMRAv2AAJ9DRhPfZqgikhW51OQRSeQB6WMeqACcCnVf xV1k7X6BhEznuInEs3n/Pn4= =80y6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EqVOK5mkaJAMmtSx-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 3:39: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D17337B401; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B0143F85; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:39:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 232C22105B; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:38:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:38:36 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: David Schultz , "M. Warner Losh" , doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20030311113835.GK79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030311112105.GO578@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BzhqTaE66jeIVBY0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311112105.GO578@straylight.oblivion.bg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --BzhqTaE66jeIVBY0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I wonder if plain XML and an XSL transformation would not be a bit > easier to do (and possibly maintain) than all the additional > hairiness that, with all due respect, DocBook would add. >=20 > Attached is a simple example that still needs quite a lot of work on > the formatting front, especially WRT trimming leading spaces, but it > demonstrates the basic idea. Ooh, fabulous. This is exactly what XML/XSL should be used for... only problem is that this has the nasty requirement of adding an xml/xsl processor to the build process. Given the project's reliance on XML/XSL for the doc builds, having this in the base system is something that I'd very much like to see. Is there someone in the crowd who wants to convince the "keep the base tree small" camp that there is indeed a need and use for the libxml/xslt bits? If things get far enough down the road and a shepherd is needed for the libxml/libxslt bits, I wouldn't mind doing that given that I track the library pretty closely and know it pretty well too (wrote ruby-libx(ml|slt)). -sc --=20 Sean Chittenden --BzhqTaE66jeIVBY0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Sean Chittenden iD8DBQE+bcq73ZnjH7yEs0ERAlyoAKDX9OrnI53gNWOmCEyhrgAdUM0fHQCgiaQh k//xkwFik2nTvtWXPq+C3Xs= =kTP6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BzhqTaE66jeIVBY0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 3:42:49 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D6237B404 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gandalf.online.bg (gandalf.online.bg [217.75.128.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A926043FBD for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:42:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 31171 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 11:38:20 -0000 Received: from office.sbnd.net (HELO straylight.ringlet.net) (217.75.140.130) by gandalf.online.bg with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 11:38:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 12183 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Mar 2003 11:41:10 -0000 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:41:10 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Sean Chittenden Cc: David Schultz , "M. Warner Losh" , doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20030311114110.GP578@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Sean Chittenden , David Schultz , "M. Warner Losh" , doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030311112105.GO578@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030311113835.GK79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MdEjg5WkSuUg8x46" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311113835.GK79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --MdEjg5WkSuUg8x46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:38:36AM -0800, Sean Chittenden wrote: > > I wonder if plain XML and an XSL transformation would not be a bit > > easier to do (and possibly maintain) than all the additional > > hairiness that, with all due respect, DocBook would add. > >=20 > > Attached is a simple example that still needs quite a lot of work on > > the formatting front, especially WRT trimming leading spaces, but it > > demonstrates the basic idea. >=20 > Ooh, fabulous. This is exactly what XML/XSL should be used > for... only problem is that this has the nasty requirement of adding > an xml/xsl processor to the build process. Given the project's > reliance on XML/XSL for the doc builds, having this in the base system > is something that I'd very much like to see. Is there someone in the > crowd who wants to convince the "keep the base tree small" camp that > there is indeed a need and use for the libxml/xslt bits? >=20 > If things get far enough down the road and a shepherd is needed for > the libxml/libxslt bits, I wouldn't mind doing that given that I track > the library pretty closely and know it pretty well too (wrote > ruby-libx(ml|slt)). -sc Actually, there is no real need for having XML/XSL tools in the base system. There are a couple of things in the tree that are committed in a generated state, although in most cases the tools to generate them are also there. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 I am the meaning of this sentence. --MdEjg5WkSuUg8x46 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+bctW7Ri2jRYZRVMRAgDFAJsEZhw0eAueEuNvxyrgQWf5s4wYqACdEsVw kHwblpVzIV/63rtmipnZNOQ= =/gd9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MdEjg5WkSuUg8x46-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 3:54:33 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3834037B401; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0D043FB1; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:54:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D03602106B; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:54:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 03:54:03 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: David Schultz , "M. Warner Losh" , doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, dwmalone@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20030311115403.GL79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030311112105.GO578@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030311113835.GK79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311114110.GP578@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Lv0dYwq55yjFwMRW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311114110.GP578@straylight.oblivion.bg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Lv0dYwq55yjFwMRW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Actually, there is no real need for having XML/XSL tools in the base > system. There are a couple of things in the tree that are committed > in a generated state, although in most cases the tools to generate > them are also there. Well, I think the project is vastly under estimating the value of being able to generate code, documentation, or other textual bits based off of XML and that some XML/XSLT processing tools in the base system would improve the quality of the OS by quite a bit. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 8:18:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D1837B401 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:18:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [64.57.102.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D3243F75 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:18:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lioux@brturbo.com) Received: from 200-181-091-063.bsace7003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br (200-181-091-063.bsace7003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.181.91.63]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142EAB86F for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:18:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18927 invoked by uid 1001); 11 Mar 2003 15:48:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20030311154838.18926.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:48:16 -0300 From: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira To: Sean Chittenden Cc: David Schultz , "M. Warner Losh" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, trhodes@FreeBSD.ORG, dwmalone@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030311112105.GO578@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030311113835.GK79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311114110.GP578@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030311115403.GL79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311115403.GL79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-RC X-Disclaimer: I hope you find what you are looking for... in life :) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:53:41AM -0800, Sean Chittenden wrote: > > Actually, there is no real need for having XML/XSL tools in the base > > system. There are a couple of things in the tree that are committed > > in a generated state, although in most cases the tools to generate > > them are also there. > > Well, I think the project is vastly under estimating the value of > being able to generate code, documentation, or other textual bits > based off of XML and that some XML/XSLT processing tools in the base > system would improve the quality of the OS by quite a bit. It's not > like I'm talking about the python bindings here either, just the xml > and xsl parser and transformation engine. -sc I understand by your statement that you intend to add further XML to the base system (configuration files, blabla). However, we should 1st do this from ports tree in a experimental fashion. The ports tree is a great way to have the tools available without going through a "does not belong in base" discussion. Then, we can go through the "belongs in base" discussion with a proof of concept in hands. By the way, I am one of those "trim base" campers but I am also for advancing technology. :) Mesmerize us. -- Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." 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   Ñåìèíàðû ïðîâîäÿò ñïåöèàëèñòû Êîíñóëüòàöèîííîé êîìïàíèè Neidermans FK (www.nfk.ru). Ñîçäàííàÿ ïðè ïîääåðæêå èíîñòðàííûõ è îòå÷åñòâåííûõ èíâåñòèöèé, êîìïàíèÿ Neidermans FK ñî÷åòàåò çíàíèå ðîññèéñêèõ îñîáåííîñòåé âåäåíèÿ áèçíåñà ñ çàïàäíûìè ñòàíäàðòàìè îáñëóæèâàíèÿ êëèåíòîâ. Îíà âõîäèò â ÷èñëî êîìïàíèé, ñïåöèàëèçèðóþùèõñÿ íà óñëóãàõ â ôèíàíñîâîé, áàíêîâñêîé, ìàðêåòèíãîâîé ñôåðàõ, â òîì ÷èñëå â ïðîáëåìàõ ïðèâëå÷åíèÿ ôèíàíñèðîâàíèÿ. Ñîòðóäíèêè Neidermans FK èìåþò ñîëèäíûé ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûé îïûò ðàáîòû â èçâåñòíûõ ðîññèéñêèõ è èíîñòðàííûõ ôèðìàõ (PricewaterhouseCoopers, «Àëüôà-Áàíê», ãðóïïà êîìïàíèé «Ìàñàí», «Ïåòðîñîþç», «Øóéñêàÿ âîäêà», Electrolux è äð.), ÿâëÿþòñÿ àâòîðàìè ó÷åáíûõ ïðîãðàìì, îáëàäàþò ñåðòèôèêàòàìè ïðåñòèæíûõ ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ ó÷åáíûõ öåíòðîâ.
Íà âûáîð Âàì ïðåäëàãàþòñÿ ñëåäóþùèå òåìû ñåìèíàðîâ:
  • «Òåõíèêà áþäæåòèðîâàíèÿ íà ïðåäïðèÿòèè»: èíäèâèäóàëüíàÿ êîíñóëüòàöèîííàÿ ïîääåðæêà âûñîêîêâàëèôèöèðîâàííûõ ñïåöèàëèñòîâ ïî ïîñòàíîâêå è ðåøåíèþ çàäà÷ áþäæåòèðîâàíèÿ, à òàêæå ïî ñìåæíûì âîïðîñàì óïðàâëåí÷åñêîãî ó÷åòà.
Ïðîäîëæèòåëüíîñòü ñåìèíàðà­­­ – 3 äíÿ, ñòîèìîñòü – 358 äîëëàðîâ ÑØÀ ïî êóðñó ÖÁ ÐÔ íà äàòó ïëàòåæà.
  • «Àêòóàëüíûå ïðîáëåìû öåíîîáðàçîâàíèÿ íà ïðåäïðèÿòèè»: ìåòîäû è ñòðàòåãèè, íîâûå ïîäõîäû öåíîîáðàçîâàíèÿ, îñîáåííîñòè öåíîîáðàçîâàíèÿ íà ðàçëè÷íûõ ðûíêàõ
  • «Îñíîâû ôèíàíñîâîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ äëÿ íåôèíàíñîâûõ ìåíåäæåðîâ»: ôèíàíñîâàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ äëÿ ñîêðàùåíèÿ çàòðàò íà ïðîèçâîäñòâå, ôîðìèðîâàíèå îïòèìàëüíîãî àññîðòèìåíòíîãî ðÿäà è îïðåäåëåíèå îïòèìàëüíûõ êàíàëîâ äèñòðèáóöèè.
  • «Ôîðìèðîâàíèå ýôôåêòèâíîé òîðãîâîé ñåòè»: òåõíîëîãèÿ ïîñòðîåíèÿ ñáûòîâîé ñåòè; ïðîåêòèðîâàíèå òîâàðîäâèæåíèÿ, ïðàâîâûå àñïåêòû îðãàíèçàöèè ñáûòà.
Ïðîäîëæèòåëüíîñòü êàæäîãî ñåìèíàðà – 2 äíÿ, ñòîèìîñòü – 285 äîëëàðîâ ÑØÀ.

Ìåñòî ïðîâåäåíèÿ – íàóêîãðàä Äóáíà (www.dubna.ru).  ñòîèìîñòü ìåðîïðèÿòèÿ âêëþ÷åíû: ó÷àñòèå â ðàáîòå êîíñóëüòàöèîííîé âñòðå÷è, èíäèâèäóàëüíûå êîíñóëüòàöèè, ïðîæèâàíèå, 4-õ ðàçîâîå ïèòàíèå. Ìû ïðèãëàøàåì Âàñ ïîðàáîòàòü è îòäîõíóòü â æèâîïèñíîì óãîëêå Ïîäìîñêîâüÿ – ïðîôèëàêòîðèè Ðàòìèíî. Ê Âàøèì óñëóãàì ñàóíà, ñïîðòçàë, áèëüÿðä.

Ïðåäâàðèòåëüíûå äàòû ïðîâåäåíèÿ ñåìèíàðîâ: 2-4 àïðåëÿ è 14-16 àïðåëÿ 2003ã.

Âû ìîæåòå ïîëó÷èòü äîïîëíèòåëüíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ, ïðîãðàììû ñåìèíàðîâ è ïîäàòü çàÿâêó íà ó÷àñòèå ïî òåëåôîíàì:  8(221)2-20-69, 4-56-98, 4-07-73, ò/ô 2-26-74 èëè ïî ýëåêòðîííîé ïî÷òå: educen@dubna.ru
To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 9:19:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1931F37B401 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.nckcn.com (ns2.nckcn.com [206.253.56.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F7143F75 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:19:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davidc@huyett.com) Received: from 192.168.0.100 (ip-209-42-82-208.nckcn.com [209.42.82.208]) by ns2.nckcn.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h2BHAU208891 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:10:30 -0600 Received: from M12 ([192.168.0.80]) by 192.168.0.100 with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:19:21 -0600 Reply-To: From: "David Chavarria" To: Subject: Handbook Idea Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:19:36 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2003 17:19:21.0171 (UTC) FILETIME=[5AD38A30:01C2E7F2] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've recently downloaded and installed FreeBSD 4.7 using the handbook, and am continuing to read it. I was able to download a postscript and make it a PDF document, the only thing wrong were the margins, otherwise it's fine. I'm on a W2000 machine. Anyway, I thought that a PDF with navigation could be beneficial to users, bookmarks could be added and links from the index. I'm not sure if this would work across all platforms, but I'd be willing to help if you think it's a good idea or would like to try a test chapter. If you need some qualifications from me, I'll be more than happy to provide them. I think FreeBSD is great so far, will help me learn a lot, and since I really can't contribute with code or with documentation, I'd like to contribute by doing something I know how to do. David S. Chavarria Electronic Media Developer GL Huyett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 10:11:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BCC37B401 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C780843F93 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:11:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.12) id 18soDu-000JOw-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:11:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:11:34 +0000 From: Ceri Davies To: David Chavarria Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Handbook Idea Message-ID: <20030311181134.GA74536@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , David Chavarria , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 11:19:36AM -0600, David Chavarria wrote: > I've recently downloaded and installed FreeBSD 4.7 using the handbook, and > am continuing to read it. I was able to download a postscript and make it a > PDF document, the only thing wrong were the margins, otherwise it's fine. > I'm on a W2000 machine. > > Anyway, I thought that a PDF with navigation could be beneficial to users, > bookmarks could be added and links from the index. I'm not sure if this > would work across all platforms, but I'd be willing to help if you think > it's a good idea or would like to try a test chapter. Hi David, What we need for that is some way of generating those bookmarks from the SGML; the handbook is rebuilt from SGML on a nightly basis. I believe that some progress has been reported in this area, although I forget who made that report... > I think FreeBSD is great so far, will help me learn a lot, and since I > really can't contribute with code or with documentation, I'd like to > contribute by doing something I know how to do. We appreciate it. Ceri -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 10:20: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D56837B401 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F117543FE5 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2BIK1NS067888 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2BIK1f8067887; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12B937B404 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaio.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2D943FCB for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:15:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@vaio.alexdupre.com) Received: from vaio.alexdupre.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vaio.alexdupre.com (8.12.8/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h2BIIntv000774 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:18:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from alex@vaio.alexdupre.com) Received: (from alex@localhost) by vaio.alexdupre.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2BIInGK000773; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:18:49 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200303111818.h2BIInGK000773@vaio.alexdupre.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:18:49 +0100 (CET) From: Alex Dupre Reply-To: Alex Dupre To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/49117: Remove ftp mirror from handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 49117 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Remove ftp mirror from handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Mar 11 10:20:01 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alex Dupre >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-ALEXDUPRE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD 4.8-ALEXDUPRE i386 >Description: Never seen this ftp site in Italy :) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- handbook.diff begins here --- --- mirrors/chapter.sgml.orig Tue Mar 11 19:13:10 2003 +++ mirrors/chapter.sgml Tue Mar 11 19:13:34 2003 @@ -713,11 +713,6 @@ ftp://ftp.it.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ - - - ftp://ftp2.it.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ - --- handbook.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 10:30:10 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939C937B401 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D29243FAF for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:30:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2BIU9NS070129 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:30:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2BIU9ns070128; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:30:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:30:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200303111830.h2BIU9ns070128@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Tom Hukins Subject: Re: docs/49014: incorrect tip in /usr/src/games/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips Reply-To: Tom Hukins Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/49014; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Hukins To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/49014: incorrect tip in /usr/src/games/fortune/datfiles/freebsd-tips Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:26:35 +0000 On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 02:50:12AM -0800, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > nosferatu:/usr/share/examples/etc% ident make.conf > make.conf: > $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/etc/make.conf,v 1.206 2002/11/27 > 17:46:26 obrien Exp $ > > It's on a 5-CURRENT box, maybe someone from re@ could MFC the file if > this later does not exist on 4.X branch. Under 4.X this file lives in /etc/defaults/make.conf. The tip should point to different files on the different branches. See the commit logs for details: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/examples/etc/make.conf?rev=1.174&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 10:31:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4326837B401 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipd50a62f5.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a62f5.speed.planet.nl [213.10.98.245]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8598843FEA for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:31:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ak.km.mr.center@ane.ru) From: «Ó÷åáíûé öåíòð ÀÊÌл To: Faq Reply-To: Good Man Subject: Îáó÷åíèå MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030311183119.8598843FEA@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:31:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ó÷åáíûé öåíòð êîìïàíèè ÀÊÌÐ

Ó÷åáíûé öåíòð êîìïàíèè ÀÊÌÐ â 2003 ãîäó ïðåäëàãàåò øèðîêèé ñïåêòð êîìïëåêñíûõ ïðîãðàìì îáó÷åíèÿ äëÿ ðóêîâîäèòåëåé è ñïåöèàëèñòîâ.

 ìàðòå 2003 ãîäà ïðèãëàøàåì Âàñ ïîñåòèòü â ðàìêàõ Îòêðûòîãî Êîðïîðàòèâíîãî Óíèâåðñèòåòà ñëåäóþùèå ïðîãðàììû îáó÷åíèÿ äëÿ ÑÎÒÐÓÄÍÈÊΠè ÐÓÊÎÂÎÄÈÒÅËÅÉ ÎÒÄÅËÀ ÏÐÎÄÀÆ È ÐÀÁÎÒÛ Ñ ÊËÈÅÍÒÀÌÈ.

17-18 ìàðòà "ÏÐÎÄÀÆÈ ÏÎ ÒÅËÅÔÎÍÓ"

Òåëåôîííûå ïðîäàæè ÿâëÿþò ñîáîé êëàññ ïðîäàæ, èìåþùèõ íåîñïîðèìûå ïðåèìóùåñòâà: çà êîðîòêîå âðåìÿ ìîæíî îáçâîíèòü áîëüøîå êîëè÷åñòâî êëèåíòîâ è ïðåäëîæèòü èì ñâîè òîâàðû èëè óñëóãè. Îäíàêî îñíîâíîé âîïðîñ â òîì, êàê ñ ïåðâûõ ñëîâ âûçâàòü äîâåðèå êëèåíòà? Êàê îáîéòè ãðîçíîãî ñåêðåòàðÿ? Êàê "íàðèñîâàòü" ñëîâàìè òîâàð òàê, ÷òîáû êëèåíò "óâèäåë" åãî è ïðèáåæàë â ôèðìó ñ æåëàíèåì íåìåäëåííî åãî êóïèòü? Êàê âûäåëèòü ïðåèìóùåñòâà ñâîåé êîìïàíèè, êàê äåëîâîãî ïàðòíåðà?... Ýòè è äðóãèå âîïðîñû áóäóò ðàññìîòðåíû íà íàøåì òðåíèíãå.

Ïîñëå ïðîõîæäåíèÿ îáó÷åíèÿ ó÷àñòíèêè òðåíèíãà ñìîãóò:
- Áåç ñòðàõà ñíèìàòü òåëåôîííóþ òðóáêó è óñòàíàâëèâàòü äîëãîñðî÷íûå îòíîøåíèÿ ñ êëèåíòîì
- Îâëàäåþò íàâûêàìè ýôôåêòèâíîé ïðåçåíòàöèè òîâàðà èëè óñëóãè
- Íàó÷àòñÿ ïðîâîäèòü ýêñïðåññ-äèàãíîñòèêó êëèåíòà è ïîäáèðàòü ýôôåêòèâíóþ ñòðàòåãèþ áåñåäû
- Íàó÷àòñÿ ðàáîòàòü ñ òèïè÷íûìè âîçðàæåíèÿìè êëèåíòîâ
- Íàó÷àòñÿ áûñòðî ìîòèâèðîâàòü êëèåíòà íà âñòðå÷ó èëè îôîðìëåíèå ïîêóïêè
- Íàó÷àòñÿ çàâåðøàòü ïðîäàæó áûñòðî è ýôôåêòèâíî

Êðàòêàÿ ïðîãðàììà òðåíèíãà:
1. Îñîáåííîñòè ïðîäàæè ïî òåëåôîíó.
2. «Òåëåôîííûé èìèäæ» âàøåé ôèðìû.
3. Ýòàïû ïðîäàæè ïî òåëåôîíó ñ ïðîðàáîòêîé êàæäîãî ýòàïà.
4. Ðàáîòà ñ ïðåòåíçèÿìè è æàëîáàìè.
5. Äåëîâîé ñòèëü è íàâûêè ñàìîïðåçåíòàöèè.
6. Ôîðìèðîâàíèå ïðèâåðæåííîñòè ó êëèåíòîâ.

Ñòîèìîñòü îáó÷åíèÿ: 240 ó.å.

21 ìàðòà "ÒÅÕÍÎËÎÃÈß ÝÔÔÅÊÒÈÂÍÛÕ ÏÐÎÄÀÆ: ÐÀÁÎÒÀ Ñ ÊËÈÅÍÒÑÊÈÌÈ ÁÀÇÀÌÈ"

Öåëü: Ó÷àñòíèêè òðåíèíãà ïîëó÷àò ýôôåêòèâíûå èíñòðóìåíòû ðàáîòû ñ êëèåíòñêîé áàçîé:
- Óçíàþò î ãëàâíûõ ïðèíöèïàõ ïîñòðîåíèÿ ýôôåêòèâíîé Áàçû Äàííûõ è ñìîæåòå ðåàëèçîâàòü ýòè çíàíèÿ íà ñâîèõ ðàáî÷èõ ìåñòàõ.
- Ïîçíàêîìÿòñÿ ñî ñòðóêòóðîé è îâëàäåþò ïðàêòè÷åñêèìè ïðèåìàìè ïîñòðîåíèÿ êëèåíòñêîé áàçû
- Óçíàþò î ïðîãðàììå óâåëè÷åíèÿ ëîÿëüíîñòè ïîòðåáèòåëåé è ñîîòâåòñòâóþùåé òåõíîëîãèåé ðàáîòû ñ êëèåíòàìè.
- Ïîéìóò êàê ïðàâèëüíî âíåäðèòü CRM â êîìïàíèè, â òîì ÷èñëå ñîáñòâåííûìè ñèëàìè

Ïðîãðàììà òðåíèíãà
1. Îñíîâíûå âîïðîñû ðàáîòû ñ Áàçàìè Äàííûõ êëèåíòîâ.
2. Îñíîâû ìàðêåòèíãà íåîáõîäèìûå äëÿ ðàáîòû ñ êëèåíòñêîé áàçîé.
3. Ñòðóêòóðà è òåõíèêà ïîñòðîåíèÿ Áàçû Äàííûõ
4. Òåõíèêè ïðàêòè÷åñêîãî èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ Êëèåíòñêèõ Áàç, ñòðàòåãèè êîíòàêòîâ
5. Ïðîäàæè - îðãàíèçàöèÿ è êîíòðîëü
6. Ïðîãðàììû óâåëè÷åíèÿ ëîÿëüíîñòè ïîòðåáèòåëåé.

Ñòîèìîñòü îáó÷åíèÿ: 180 ó.å.

24-25 ìàðòà "ÓÏÐÀÂËÅÍÈÅ ÎÒÄÅËÎÌ ÏÐÎÄÀÆ"

Íà òðåíèíãå ðàññìàòðèâàþòñÿ êëþ÷åâûå âîïðîñû ýôôåêòèâíîãî óïðàâëåíèÿ ïåðñîíàëîì îòäåëà ïðîäàæ: ïëàíèðîâàíèå è îòñëåæèâàíèå ýôôåêòèâíîñòè äåÿòåëüíîñòè îòäåëà â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñî ñòðàòåãèåé ðàçâèòèÿ, óïðàâëåíèå ÷åëîâå÷åñêèìè ðåñóðñàìè, âîïðîñû ïîääåðæàíèå ýôôåêòèâíîñòè ðàáîòû ìîòèâàöèè è ðàçâèòèÿ ñîòðóäíèêîâ.

Ïîñëå ïðîõîæäåíèÿ îáó÷åíèÿ ó÷àñòíèêè òðåíèíãà ñìîãóò:
- Îïòèìèçèðîâàòü ñèñòåìó óïðàâëåíèÿ ïðîäàæàìè
- Îâëàäåòü íàâûêàìè óïðàâëåíèÿ ðàáî÷åé ãðóïïîé
- Âíåäðèòü åäèíûå ñòàíäàðòû ðàáî÷åãî ïîâåäåíèÿ
- Îñâîèòü òåõíèêè ïîñòàíîâêè öåëåé è çàäà÷ ïîä÷èíåííûì
- Îâëàäåòü íàâûêàìè ýôôåêòèâíîãî ìîòèâèðîâàíèÿ ïîä÷èíåííûõ

Êðàòêàÿ ïðîãðàììà òðåíèíãà:
1. Âëèÿíèå ðóêîâîäèòåëÿ ïåðñîíàëîì ïî ïðîäàæå íà ðåçóëüòàò ðàáîòû ïîäðàçäåëåíèÿ.
2. Öåëåâîé ïîäõîä ê îðãàíèçàöèè ðàáîòû ïåðñîíàëà ñëóæáû ïðîäàæ
3. Îöåíêà ðàçëè÷íûõ ñòèëåé óïðàâëåíèÿ è âûáîð ìåòîäîâ ðóêîâîäñòâà.
4. Îöåíêà è âîçíàãðàæäåíèå ñîòðóäíèêîâ ñëóæáû ïðîäàæ.
5. Ïîäáîð è àäàïòàöèÿ ñïåöèàëèñòîâ ïî ïðîäàæå
6. Ðàçâèòèå íàâûêîâ ïðîäàâöîâ.

Ñòîèìîñòü îáó÷åíèÿ - 360 ó.å.

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 11: 0:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485B637B401; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF1543FAF; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:00:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with ESMTP id <2003031119000700300qapvme>; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:00:08 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2BJ07Wp071638; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2BJ07S8071637; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:00:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:00:07 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Ceri Davies Cc: David Chavarria , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook Idea Message-ID: <20030311190007.GA71554@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030311181134.GA74536@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311181134.GA74536@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 11:19:36AM -0600, David Chavarria wrote: > > I've recently downloaded and installed FreeBSD 4.7 using the handbook, = and > > am continuing to read it. I was able to download a postscript and make= it a > > PDF document, the only thing wrong were the margins, otherwise it's fin= e. > > I'm on a W2000 machine. > >=20 > > Anyway, I thought that a PDF with navigation could be beneficial to use= rs, > > bookmarks could be added and links from the index. I'm not sure if this > > would work across all platforms, but I'd be willing to help if you think > > it's a good idea or would like to try a test chapter. >=20 > Hi David, >=20 > What we need for that is some way of generating those bookmarks from the > SGML; the handbook is rebuilt from SGML on a nightly basis. >=20 > I believe that some progress has been reported in this area, although I > forget who made that report... I might have mentioned something along these lines. Basically, the recent teTeX update (to 2.0.X) allows our DocBook toolchain to (once again) create native PDF files of the Handbook. If said toolchain was built to use OpenJade (rather than Jade), you get all the bookmarks for free. See the 7 MB monster PDF file at: http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/doc/handbook.pdf I created this PDF file using an OpenJade based toolchain, with a minor change to texmf.cnf (similar to what's called for by the jadetex port) and the removal of the PDF file creation hack in the Handbook's Makefile. Note that OpenJade is the default on non-i386 platforms. kuriyama and I have discussed the idea of *only* supporting OpenJade on *all* platforms, but it seemed like the middle of a release cycle was a bad time to do this. :-) Bruce. --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+bjI22MoxcVugUsMRAsPhAKCv/B4agAF5zqH86MVsqbBQTHiTRACgjUyU aWV39KP79z+L2ZYKPX3WK8k= =/NnH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 11: 0:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F32937B401 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smarty.rech.net (dsl-213-023-008-235.arcor-ip.net [213.23.8.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA65043FA3 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:00:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eyytvm@mobil.com) Received: from User ([67.38.196.236]) by smarty.rech.net (Kerio MailServer 5.1.8); Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:53:29 +0100 Reply-To: eyytvm@mobil.com From: Âñå äëÿ ñêëàäà Subject: áûñòðîñáîðíûå ñòåëëàæè YZHRLTSHMG Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:51:26 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20030311190032.DA65043FA3@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is HTML source of message you composed. 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XRFHWHMSYIVCTUGQFVZOOLOLZGSTGRWXBFRCTE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 11:30: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179C737B405 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103BF43FE1 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2BJU5NS086858 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:30:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2BJU5mq086857; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:30:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:30:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200303111930.h2BJU5mq086857@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Peter Pentchev Subject: Re: docs/49117: Remove ftp mirror from handbook Reply-To: Peter Pentchev Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/49117; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Peter Pentchev To: Alex Dupre Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/49117: Remove ftp mirror from handbook Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:26:27 +0200 On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 07:18:49PM +0100, Alex Dupre wrote: > > >Number: 49117 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: Remove ftp mirror from handbook > >Originator: Alex Dupre > >Fix: [snip handbook mirrors diff removing ftp2.it.FreeBSD.org] Not so fast :) The Handbook is just the messenger; if this mirror is really no longer available (it does not have a DNS address record, at least), it should be removed from sysinstall's mirrors list, too. This means the attached additional patch. Pending approval from my mentor, Ceri, I will commit your Handbook patch. G'luck, Peter -- Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@sbnd.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 When you are not looking at it, this sentence is in Spanish. Index: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c,v retrieving revision 1.369 diff -u -r1.369 menus.c --- src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c 8 Mar 2003 12:07:13 -0000 1.369 +++ src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/menus.c 11 Mar 2003 19:19:18 -0000 @@ -657,8 +657,6 @@ VAR_FTP_PATH "=ftp://ftp2.il.freebsd.org" }, { "Italy", "ftp.it.freebsd.org", NULL, dmenuSetVariable, NULL, VAR_FTP_PATH "=ftp://ftp.it.freebsd.org" }, - { " Italy #2", "ftp2.it.freebsd.org", NULL, dmenuSetVariable, NULL, - VAR_FTP_PATH "=ftp://ftp2.it.freebsd.org" }, { "Japan", "ftp.jp.freebsd.org", NULL, dmenuSetVariable, NULL, VAR_FTP_PATH "=ftp://ftp.jp.freebsd.org" }, { " Japan #2", "ftp2.jp.freebsd.org", NULL, dmenuSetVariable, NULL, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 13: 7:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF36737B401; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:07:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDAC43FE9; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:07:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 796222106F; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:06:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:06:55 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20030311210655.GM79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030311112105.GO578@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030311113835.GK79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311114110.GP578@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030311115403.GL79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311154838.18926.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311154838.18926.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Well, I think the project is vastly under estimating the value of > > being able to generate code, documentation, or other textual bits > > based off of XML and that some XML/XSLT processing tools in the base > > system would improve the quality of the OS by quite a bit. It's not > > like I'm talking about the python bindings here either, just the xml > > and xsl parser and transformation engine. -sc > > I understand by your statement that you intend to add further > XML to the base system (configuration files, blabla). :) Actually, I'm one who'd resist the idea of XML configuration files. XML for the textual bits so that after a transformation, the end users never know there was any XML involved in the process (read: documentation). 0 < XML < * -sc -- Sean Chittenden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 13:48:25 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256E437B401 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [64.57.102.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A5643F75 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:48:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lioux@brturbo.com) Received: from 200-181-091-063.bsace7003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br (200-181-091-063.bsace7003.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.181.91.63]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14210B86D for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21579 invoked by uid 1001); 11 Mar 2003 21:27:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20030311212725.21578.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:27:03 -0300 From: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira To: Sean Chittenden Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail References: <20030310195323.GA2812@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030310204035.GU79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311045239.GA4369@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030311112105.GO578@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030311113835.GK79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311114110.GP578@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20030311115403.GL79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> <20030311154838.18926.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <20030311210655.GM79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311210655.GM79234@perrin.int.nxad.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-RC X-Disclaimer: I hope you find what you are looking for... in life :) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 01:06:33PM -0800, Sean Chittenden wrote: > > > Well, I think the project is vastly under estimating the value of > > > being able to generate code, documentation, or other textual bits > > > based off of XML and that some XML/XSLT processing tools in the base > > > system would improve the quality of the OS by quite a bit. It's not > > > like I'm talking about the python bindings here either, just the xml > > > and xsl parser and transformation engine. -sc > > > > I understand by your statement that you intend to add further > > XML to the base system (configuration files, blabla). > > :) Actually, I'm one who'd resist the idea of XML configuration files. > XML for the textual bits so that after a transformation, the end users > never know there was any XML involved in the process (read: > documentation). > > 0 < XML < * Perhaps, I should have been clearer there. :) I thought you might have an intention of having further XML support on the base system aside from doc building. Well, that is what I would expect since you hinted that you wanted the XML/XSLT tools in base. By the way, I would be with you on the "don't use this for configuration files". :) My take on this, have the appropriate tools in ports for now. We can re-discuss if it belong in base later on... after we have something that uses it. Regards, -- Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." Computer Science Undergraduate | FreeBSD Committer | CS Developer flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 15:20:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6DC37B401 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0776443FD7 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:20:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2BNKENS073774 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:20:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2BNKEBl073773; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:20:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:20:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200303112320.h2BNKEBl073773@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Alex Dupre Subject: Re: docs/49117: Remove ftp mirror from handbook Reply-To: Alex Dupre Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/49117; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Alex Dupre To: Peter Pentchev Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/49117: Remove ftp mirror from handbook Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:10:33 +0100 Tuesday, March 11, 2003, 8:26:27 PM, you wrote: PP> Not so fast :) The Handbook is just the messenger; if this mirror PP> is really no longer available (it does not have a DNS address record, PP> at least), it should be removed from sysinstall's mirrors list, too. Ops, you are right :) sysinstall was out of my mind...AFAIK that mirror never existed...it was added to the handbook 4 months ago (dunno why), but never appeared in the nameserver...and now I found the time to fill a PR ;) -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: Communist revolutionaries taking over the server room and demanding all the computers in the building or they shoot the sysadmin. Poor misguided fools. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 17:12:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C1B37B401; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57B843FBD; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:12:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.gorean.org (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03) with SMTP id <2003031201121200300f2it8e>; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 01:12:12 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:12:11 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton Reply-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org To: David Schultz Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Wes Peters , John Von Essen , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 Tag... In-Reply-To: <20030311211550.GA7157@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <20030311170704.B1461@znfgre.tberna.bet> References: <20030310094853.L3006-100000@beck.quonix.net> <200303102147.10992.wes@softweyr.com> <20030311082450.GB5161@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <200303110818.32215.wes@softweyr.com> <20030311163820.GA70445@intruder.bmah.org> <20030311211550.GA7157@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Follow-ups set to -doc] On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, David Schultz wrote: > That section looks pretty good to me, so you have my apologies. > Some of the sections are much worse, though. For instance, take a > look at section 18 (Advanced), which is a little bit better than > it used to be but still wrong in many areas. I asked about > interest in updating the FAQ last April, and the response I got > was that people would accept updates to it, but basically everyone > wanted to focus on the Handbook. I assumed that this was because > people preferred the layout of the Handbook as a better way to > find information. Well that's just silliness... if you have contributions to the FAQ, file PR's at least. That way the issue can be addressed in real terms (instead of, "What would happen if I?"). But seriously folks, I suggested a while back that "we" reorganize the useful information in the FAQ so that it lives in the appropriate location in the handbook, and turn the FAQ itself into links back to the handbook. At the time I was laughed out of court for a couple reasons, not the least of which was resources. But we've got a pretty solid core of doc committers nowadays, perhaps it's time to revisit this idea? Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 17:56: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD8F37B401 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.snarpit.com (mx3.snarpit.com [216.126.46.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BE843F93 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:56:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mail@tigger.farpit.com) Received: from farpit.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.snarpit.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A03608A5 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:23:22 -0500 (EST) To: FREEBSD-DOC@FREEBSD.ORG From: "Eric Jackson" Subject: Silky Sweet Inner Meat ..!!! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 19:38:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E161837B48F; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.acd.net (smtp.acd.net [207.179.102.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565E843FDD; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:38:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taxman@ACD.NET) Received: from 207.179.77.28 ([207.179.77.28]) by smtp.acd.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:38:09 -0500 From: taxman To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Doug Barton , David Schultz Subject: Re: RELENG_4 Tag... Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:41:14 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Wes Peters , John Von Essen , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20030310094853.L3006-100000@beck.quonix.net> <20030311211550.GA7157@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030311170704.B1461@znfgre.tberna.bet> In-Reply-To: <20030311170704.B1461@znfgre.tberna.bet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303112241.14940.taxman@acd.net> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2003 03:38:09.0977 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD51BA90:01C2E848] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 11 March 2003 08:12 pm, Doug Barton wrote: > [Follow-ups set to -doc] > > On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, David Schultz wrote: > > That section looks pretty good to me, so you have my apologies. > > Some of the sections are much worse, though. For instance, take a > > look at section 18 (Advanced), which is a little bit better than > > it used to be but still wrong in many areas. I asked about > > interest in updating the FAQ last April, and the response I got > > was that people would accept updates to it, but basically everyone > > wanted to focus on the Handbook. I assumed that this was because > > people preferred the layout of the Handbook as a better way to > > find information. > > Well that's just silliness... if you have contributions to the FAQ, file > PR's at least. That way the issue can be addressed in real terms (instead > of, "What would happen if I?"). > > But seriously folks, I suggested a while back that "we" reorganize the > useful information in the FAQ so that it lives in the appropriate location > in the handbook, and turn the FAQ itself into links back to the handbook. > At the time I was laughed out of court for a couple reasons, not the least > of which was resources. But we've got a pretty solid core of doc > committers nowadays, perhaps it's time to revisit this idea? I for one, wholeheartedly support that idea. There is simply too much information in the FAQ sometimes (considering its purpose of being a FAQ and not a research tool) and knowing where to find the answer can be really hard because there is so much there. But if the information was in the handbook I believe it would be a lot more useful. Especially using your idea of linking to the appropriate handbook section. my .02 Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 11 23:29:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8F237B401; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:29:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AB743FA3; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:29:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (roam@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2C7TnNS016606; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:29:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from roam@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2C7TmX4016602; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:29:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:29:48 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Pentchev Message-Id: <200303120729.h2C7TmX4016602@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sysadmin@alexdupre.com, roam@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/49117: Remove ftp mirror from handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Remove ftp mirror from handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: roam State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 11 23:29:19 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: Handbook patch applied, waiting for approval for the sysinstall patch. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 5: 0: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A36F37B401 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-67-116-4-99.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-67-116-4-99.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.116.4.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5165943FBD for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:00:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from poligraf276@usa.net) From: Poligraf To: Faq Subject: Íåäîðîãàÿ ïîëèãðàôè÷åñêàÿ ïðîäóêöèÿ, âèçèòêè. mf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030312130000.5165943FBD@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:00:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Âàøåìó âíèìàíèþ ïðåäëàãàåòñÿ ïîëíîöâåòíàÿ îôñåòíàÿ ïå÷àòü: áóêëåòîâ (íàïðèìåð: À4, 4+4, 115 ãð., 1000 øò. - 120 ó.å.), áëàíêîâ, ëèñòîâîê, ïëàêàòîâ, êàëåíäàðåé, êàòàëîãîâ, ñàìîêîïèðîâ è ïð. ïîëèãðàôè÷åñêîé ïðîäóêöèè. ÂÈÇÈÒÊÈ: ÷åðí+0, 100 øò. - 5 ó.å. öâåò(ëþáîé)+0, 100 øò. - 10 ó.å. âûáîð áóìàãè, ñðîê - îò 2 ÷àñîâ Ðàçðàáîòêà è äèçàéí ìàêåòîâ.  çàâèñèìîñòè îò ñóììû çàêàçà, ìàêåò ìîæåò áûòü ñâåðñòàí ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÎ. Ìû íàõîäèìñÿ â öåíòðå (ì. Ñìîëåíñêàÿ) Òåë.: 241 41 07, 241 22 85 Ôàêñ: 241 95 47 Áóäåì ðàäû âèäåòü Âàñ â ÷èñëå íàøèõ êëèåíòîâ Ñ óâàæåíèåì, - ÀðòÏðèíòÑ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 5: 2:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B7037B404 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lml104.siteprotect.com (lml104.siteprotect.com [66.113.136.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91A243F3F for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:02:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@robertbennett.us) Received: from robertbennett.us (ip-D82EC6C0.arc1.sdy.pathwaynet.com [216.46.198.192]) by lml104.siteprotect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15571 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:02:36 -0600 Message-ID: <3E6F2FE7.6030903@robertbennett.us> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:02:31 -0500 From: Robert Bennett Reply-To: admin@robertbennett.us User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja, zh-cn MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FTP Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, i've been trying to download FreeBSD v5.0 from your server ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ for over a week now. i've made 3 attempts using diffrent download managers (fresh download and download accelerator) without any luck so far. even trying only 1 connection. i get this error every time at 99% on the first disc. File download of [5.0-RELEASE-alpha-disk1.iso] was not completed successfully due to unexpected server response 450 Short send: At most -569659446 of 55269 bytes were received by client host. if you fix this problem please reply to this email so i can try again. i would really like to get the new version installed as soon as possible. thank you -- Robert C. Bennett III email: admin@robertbennett.us To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 5:49:25 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6D737B404 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from adsl-67-116-4-99.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-67-116-4-99.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.116.4.99]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A766943FCB for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:48:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from klinika.gracia@hotdog.msk.su) From: Êëèíèêà ýñòåòè÷åñêîé òåðàïèè «Ãðàöèÿ» To: Faq Subject: Âàì çíàêîìî ýòî ÷óâñòâî, êîãäà Âàøå ëèöî è òåëî íå â ïîðÿäêå... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030312134842.A766943FCB@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:48:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org

Êàê, íàñëàæäàÿñü ïèùåé, ïîääåðæèâàòü ñåáÿ â îòëè÷íîé ôîðìå ?
Êâàëèôèöèðîâàííûé âðà÷-äèåòîëîã ïîäáåðåò îñîáûé ñïîñîá ïèòàíèÿ. Îùóòèìûé ýôôåêò óæå ÷åðåç äâå íåäåëè

Êàê èçáàâèòüñÿ îò ñòðàõîâ è ñåìåéíûõ íåóðÿäèö ?
Îïûòíûé âðà÷-ïñèõîòåðàïåâò, ïñèõîàíàëèòèê, ê.ì.í.îêàæåò äåéñòâåííóþ ïîìîùü

Êàê èçáàâèòüñÿ îò áîëè è äèñêîìôîðòà â ñïèíå ?
Îïûòíûé âðà÷-ìàíóàëüíûé òåðàïåâò ïðîâîäèò áûñòðîå è ýôôåêòèâíîå ëå÷åíèå ñ ãàðàíòèåé 1 ãîä

Êàê ïîìî÷ü ñåáå ñòàòü çäîðîâûì ?
Âðà÷-ñïåöèàëèñò ïî ñèñòåìíîé òåðàïèè ñ 30-ëåòíèì îïûòîì ðàáîòû ïðîâîäèò êîíñóëüòàöèè è ýôôåêòèâíîå ëå÷åíèå ïî àâòîðñêèì ìåòîäèêàì

Êàê óêðåïèòü ñâîå çäîðîâüå è óëó÷øèòü îáùåå ñàìî÷óâñòâèå ?
Êâàëèôèöèðîâàííûé ìàññàæèñòû è ñïåöèàëèñòû ïî òåëåñíî-îðèåíòèðîâàííîé òåðàïèè ïîìîãóò Âàì â ýòîì

Êàê áûñòðî ïðèâåñòè â ïîðÿäîê ñâîå ëèöî è òåëî ?
Îïûòíûé âðà÷-äåðìàòîêîñìåòîëîã, àðîìàòåðàïåâò îêàæåò Âàì áûñòðóþ è ýôôåêòèâíóþ ïîìîùü

Êàê áûñòðî è êîìôîðòíî ïîëó÷èòü ïîäðîáíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ñâîåì çäîðîâüå ?
Ñïîìîùüþ óíèêàëüíîãî êîìïüþòåðíîãî îáñëåäîâàíèÿ, îñíîâàííîãî íà öâåòîâîñïðèÿòèè, Âû óçíàåòå â ñâîåì îðãàíèçìåñëàáûå ìåñòà è ñìîæåòå èõ ñêîððåêòèðîâàòü ñ ïîìîùüþ ñïåöèàëüíîé ïðîãðàììû è äàæå â äîìàøíèõ óñëîâèÿõ

Ýêñïðåññ-ìåòîäèêè êëèíèêè "Ãðàöèÿ", óæå ïÿòü ëåò óñïåøíî ðàáîòàþùåé â îáëàñòè êðàñîòû è çäîðîâüÿ, îñíîâàíû íà ïîñëåäíèõ íàó÷íûõ äîñòèæåíèÿõ ìåäèöèíû Âîñòîêà è Çàïàäà. Ýòî íîâûé, ëåãêèé ïóòü ê ñåáå áåç òàáëåòîê è ñêàëüïåëÿ, áåç èçíóðèòåëüíûõ äèåò è óïðàæíåíèé, áåç îòðûâà îò ñåìüè è ðàáîòû.
Ïðîãðàììû "Ãðàöèè" ðàáîòàþò ìÿãêî è äàþò äîëãîâðåìåííûé ðåçóëüòàò.
Îíè áûëè òùàòåëüíî ðàçðàáîòàíû äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ïîìî÷ü âàøèì ëèöó è òåëó áûñòðî îáðåñòè õîðîøèé âèä. È, ÷òî åùå âàæíåå, ïîääåðæèâàòü èõ õîðîøèé âèä.

Çàïèñü ê ñïåöèàëèñòàì êëèíèêè "Ãðàöèÿ" ïî ò. 281-0466 (ðÿäîì ñ ì."Ïðîñïåêò Ìèðà") To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 7:54:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADD837B401 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (oe67.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B5C43FB1 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:54:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mackeyha2@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:54:46 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [128.23.252.225] Reply-To: From: "Harold A Mackey" To: Subject: RE: RELENG_4 Tag... Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:54:46 -0500 Message-ID: <80989321B230FD4E9E0D034DF5DD6E480398E4@amos.ddc.gi.musc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2E885.CB9AA800" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20030311170704.B1461@znfgre.tberna.bet> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2003 15:54:46.0820 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4B0C640:01C2E8AF] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2E885.CB9AA800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doug I'm a terrible programmer but not half bad at writing. Wouldn't mind making some small contribution to FreeBSD. Is there a need for some help on the manual? Who would I contact? Thx Harold A. Mackey MUSC Digestive Disease Center 96 Jonathan Lucas Street Suite 210 CSB Charleston, SC 29403 ph 843-792-4858 fx 843-792-4184 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Doug Barton Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:12 PM To: David Schultz Cc: Bruce A. Mah; Wes Peters; John Von Essen; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 Tag... [Follow-ups set to -doc] On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, David Schultz wrote: > That section looks pretty good to me, so you have my apologies. Some > of the sections are much worse, though. For instance, take a look at > section 18 (Advanced), which is a little bit better than it used to be > but still wrong in many areas. I asked about interest in updating the > FAQ last April, and the response I got was that people would accept > updates to it, but basically everyone wanted to focus on the Handbook. > I assumed that this was because people preferred the layout of the > Handbook as a better way to find information. Well that's just silliness... if you have contributions to the FAQ, file PR's at least. That way the issue can be addressed in real terms (instead of, "What would happen if I?"). But seriously folks, I suggested a while back that "we" reorganize the useful information in the FAQ so that it lives in the appropriate location in the handbook, and turn the FAQ itself into links back to the handbook. At the time I was laughed out of court for a couple reasons, not the least of which was resources. But we've got a pretty solid core of doc committers nowadays, perhaps it's time to revisit this idea? Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2E885.CB9AA800 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Harold A. Mackey (mackeyha@musc.edu).vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Harold A. Mackey (mackeyha@musc.edu).vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Mackey;Harold;A. FN:Harold A. Mackey (mackeyha@musc.edu) ORG:Medical University of South Carolina;Digestive Disease Center TITLE:IT, Digestive Disease Center TEL;WORK;VOICE:(843) 792-4858 TEL;HOME;VOICE:(843) 886-6999 TEL;CELL;VOICE:(843) 367-3005 TEL;PAGER;VOICE:(843) 792-0590 x11310 TEL;WORK;FAX:(843) 792-4184 TEL;HOME;FAX:(843) 792-4184 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;CSB210-O;96 Jonathan Lucas = Street=3D0D=3D0A210 Clinical Science Bldg.=3D0D=3D0ABox =3D 250327;Charleston;SC;29425;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:CSB210-O=3D0D=3D0A96 Jonathan = Lucas Street=3D0D=3D0A210 Clinical Science Bldg.=3D0D=3D =3D0ABox 250327=3D0D=3D0ACharleston, SC 29425=3D0D=3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;8 Sand Dollar Drive;Isle of Palms;SC;29451;US LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:8 Sand Dollar Drive=3D0D=3D0AIsle = of Palms, SC 29451=3D0D=3D0AUS EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:mackeyha@musc.edu REV:20030116T143923Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C2E885.CB9AA800-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 9: 3:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C3737B401 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to (pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to [213.130.163.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C417443FBD for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:03:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shamrock@cypherpunks.to) Received: from VAIO650 (adsl-208-201-229-160.sonic.net [208.201.229.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBDF3664D for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:03:50 +0100 (CET) From: "Lucky Green" To: Subject: vs. &man.command.section Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:03:44 -0800 Message-ID: <00a601c2e8b9$58625bb0$6601a8c0@VAIO650> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doc gurus, I wrote a new section for the FreeBSD Handbook to help users employ the new gbde(8) disk encryption features. The content is currently under review by the author of gbde. This is my first attempt at writing FreeBSD documentation, so please bear with me if some of my questions may have been answered elsewhere. Just send me a pointer. :-) 1) I read section 4.2.5.4 of the Documentation guide, but I still don't understand when to use gbde 8 and when to use &man.gbde.8 Is the former indexed while the latter is not? What determines whether one should choose one format over the other? 2) Is it required that every time a FreeBSD command is mentioned the command _must_ be surrounded by the tags? I have explanatory text paragraphs in which gbde is mentioned multiple times and having all these bold instances of gbde in the same paragraph looks strange to me (in the html output). 3) Is there a graphical editor that allows tagging of SGML text using drop-down lists or the like, similar to any number of HTML editors out there? I am currently using KDE's Kate, typing each tag by hand, which is a pain. Also, is there a graphical editor that performs tag matching? I.e., you click on a closing tag and the editor highlights everything between the opening and closing tags? 4) Is there an SGML source beautifier script or program that will parse the SGML document and based on the parsing perform indentations in conformance with the style guide? Thanks, --Lucky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 9:52:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EB437B404; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:52:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-relay.omnis.com (smtp-relay.omnis.com [216.239.128.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AFD43F3F; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.homeunix.net (66-75-151-22.san.rr.com [66.75.151.22]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4833439AA; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:52:18 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Doug Barton , David Schultz Subject: Re: RELENG_4 Tag... Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:52:18 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , John Von Essen , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20030310094853.L3006-100000@beck.quonix.net> <20030311211550.GA7157@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030311170704.B1461@znfgre.tberna.bet> In-Reply-To: <20030311170704.B1461@znfgre.tberna.bet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303120952.18491.wes@softweyr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 11 March 2003 17:12, Doug Barton wrote: > > But seriously folks, I suggested a while back that "we" reorganize the > useful information in the FAQ so that it lives in the appropriate > location in the handbook, and turn the FAQ itself into links back to > the handbook. At the time I was laughed out of court for a couple > reasons, not the least of which was resources. But we've got a pretty > solid core of doc committers nowadays, perhaps it's time to revisit > this idea? Do, or Do Not. There is no revisit. That sounds eerily familiar. ;^) -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 9:55:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B9737B401 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (eos.ocn.ne.jp [211.6.83.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B9C43F3F for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:55:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (p54141-adsao12honb4-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.96.136.141]) by smtp.eos.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id B805F1A0F; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:55:07 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) by mail.allbsd.org (8.12.8/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id h2CHseqe094688; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:54:41 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:52:24 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20030313.025224.98423896.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> To: shamrock@cypherpunks.to Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vs. &man.command.section From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <00a601c2e8b9$58625bb0$6601a8c0@VAIO650> References: <00a601c2e8b9$58625bb0$6601a8c0@VAIO650> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Lucky Green" wrote in <00a601c2e8b9$58625bb0$6601a8c0@VAIO650>: shamrock> 1) I read section 4.2.5.4 of the Documentation guide, but I still don't shamrock> understand when to use shamrock> shamrock> shamrock> shamrock> gbde shamrock> shamrock> 8 shamrock> shamrock> shamrock> and when to use shamrock> shamrock> &man.gbde.8 shamrock> shamrock> Is the former indexed while the latter is not? What determines whether shamrock> one should choose one format over the other? No. They have the same meaning. The latter (short) form is defined in doc/share/sgml/man-refs.ent. It is something like #define macro in C. If you can find man.xxx.n in man-refs.ent, you should use it. If not, I think it is better to add an entry by yourself or ask someone who is a doc committer, instead of using the former. shamrock> 2) Is it required that every time a FreeBSD command is mentioned the shamrock> command _must_ be surrounded by the tags? I have explanatory shamrock> text paragraphs in which gbde is mentioned multiple times and having all shamrock> these bold instances of gbde in the same paragraph looks strange to me shamrock> (in the html output). Hmmm, could you please show an example? shamrock> 3) Is there a graphical editor that allows tagging of SGML text using (snip) shamrock> 4) Is there an SGML source beautifier script or program that will parse shamrock> the SGML document and based on the parsing perform indentations in shamrock> conformance with the style guide? This is not a graphical one, but I use Emacs+PSGML mode (mentioned in FDP Primer Ch.11). -- | Hiroki SATO / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 10:33:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BF937B401 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to (pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to [213.130.163.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79ECE43FCB for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:33:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shamrock@cypherpunks.to) Received: from VAIO650 (adsl-208-201-229-160.sonic.net [208.201.229.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA6A36519; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:33:06 +0100 (CET) From: "Lucky Green" To: "'Hiroki Sato'" Cc: Subject: RE: vs. &man.command.section Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:32:59 -0800 Message-ID: <00aa01c2e8c5$d079cdc0$6601a8c0@VAIO650> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20030313.025224.98423896.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiroki Sato wrote: > No. They have the same meaning. The latter (short) form is > defined in doc/share/sgml/man-refs.ent. It is something > like #define macro in C. > If you can find man.xxx.n in man-refs.ent, you should use > it. If not, I think it is better to add an entry by yourself > or ask someone who is a doc committer, instead of using the former. Ah. Thank you for the explanation! This wasn't clear to me from reading the docs. > shamrock> 2) Is it required that every time a FreeBSD command is > shamrock> mentioned the command _must_ be surrounded by the > shamrock> tags? I have explanatory text paragraphs in which gbde is > shamrock> mentioned multiple times and having all these bold > instances > shamrock> of gbde in the same paragraph looks strange to me > (in the html > shamrock> output). > > Hmmm, could you please show an example? First of all, sorry for the mental typo. I meant to say , not . Here is an example of some text that I wrote that I believe may be too cluttered with bold face terms when rendered as HTML: Compatibility issues &man.sysinstall.8; is incompatible with gbde-encrypted devices. All gbde devices must be detached from the kernel before launching sysinstall or sysinstall will crash during its initial probing for devices. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 14:22:47 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1A237B404 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.20.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26CC43FB1 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:22:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au) Received: from elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au (elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.18.41]) by ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2CMMicl028574 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:22:44 +1100 (EST) From: JacobRhoden Organization: University of Melbourne To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: documentation on using usb card readers (ie copact flash cards) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:22:44 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303130922.44745.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just went through the process of attempting to work out how to use a compact flash card reader with freebsd. Including how to start / stop a device using camcontrol, and mounting / unmounting. I dont know how I worked out I should use camcontrol, but I couldnt find any help in the documents. Should there be something in the handbook? (ie in the storage devices section). I could write one while it is fresh in my head. Anyway I have never done anything like this before (in the freebsd project). Just thought i might be able to help some future person as well. - jacob Jacob Rhoden Phone: +61 3 8344 6102 ITS Division Email: jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au Melbourne University Mobile: +61 403 788 386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 14:25:43 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B7337B401 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:25:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E408C43F93 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:25:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2CMPfV0036817; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:25:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 17:24:59 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: JacobRhoden Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: documentation on using usb card readers (ie copact flash cards) Message-Id: <20030312172459.25b01b81.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200303130922.44745.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> References: <200303130922.44745.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:22:44 +1100 JacobRhoden wrote: > Hi, > > I just went through the process of attempting to work out how to use a > compact flash card reader with freebsd. Including how to start / stop > a device using camcontrol, and mounting / unmounting. I dont know how > I worked out I should use camcontrol, but I couldnt find any help in > the documents. > > Should there be something in the handbook? (ie in the storage devices > section). I could write one while it is fresh in my head. Anyway I > have never done anything like this before (in the freebsd project). > Just thought i might be able to help some future person as well. > Please. We would love to have more documentation on things like this. In fact, if you don't know docbook, someone around here will mark it up for you. Thanks for the offer, -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 15: 2:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9871437B401; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.20.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4171543F85; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:02:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au) Received: from elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au (elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.18.41]) by ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2CN2Ycl001975; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:02:34 +1100 (EST) From: JacobRhoden Organization: University of Melbourne To: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: documentation on using usb card readers (ie copact flash cards) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:02:34 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200303130922.44745.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> <20030312172459.25b01b81.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030312172459.25b01b81.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303131002.34040.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:24 am, you wrote: > Please. We would love to have more documentation on things like > this. In fact, if you don't know docbook, someone around here > will mark it up for you. Im not on the list at the moment so im replying off-list. I just found the "primer for new contributors" (by searching for docbook). Ive checkedout the doc's. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 16:46:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CF337B401 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:46:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6532A43F93 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:46:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2D0k9V0037148; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:46:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:45:28 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: JacobRhoden Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: documentation on using usb card readers (ie copact flash cards) Message-Id: <20030312194528.3a89a4c2.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200303131002.34040.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> References: <200303130922.44745.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> <20030312172459.25b01b81.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <200303131002.34040.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:02:34 +1100 JacobRhoden wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:24 am, you wrote: > > Please. We would love to have more documentation on things like > > this. In fact, if you don't know docbook, someone around here > > will mark it up for you. > > Im not on the list at the moment so im replying off-list. I just found > the "primer for new contributors" (by searching for docbook). Ive > checkedout the doc's. > > How do I decide what section of the documentation it should be in? ie > articles vs handbook? when is something important enough to go in the > handbook instead of an article? > > - jacob > Hello Jacob, Personally I always document things in the handbook, it seems to be the best walk-through guide we have. Personally what your writing would most likely fit in the storage chapter. Articles are more for subject specific documents. Thanks again, -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 18: 7:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466DC37B401 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:07:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.snarpit.com (mx2.snarpit.com [216.126.46.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9436F43FBD for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:07:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mail@bounce.clarpit.com) Received: from farpit.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.snarpit.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2697C4203A for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:04:18 -0500 (EST) To: FREEBSD-DOC@FREEBSD.ORG From: "Sweeney Taylor" Subject: RE: Unbelievable, I'm your neighbor :).... X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: staylor@clarpit.com Content-type: text/html Message-Id: <20030313020418.2697C4203A@mx2.snarpit.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:04:18 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
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Visit www.juno.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 12 22:40:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A5D37B404 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C1B243F85 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:40:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from snowfall@gmx.co.uk) Received: (qmail 17426 invoked by uid 0); 13 Mar 2003 06:40:29 -0000 Received: from tnt2-206.quicksilver.net.nz (HELO COMPUTER.gmx.co.uk) (202.89.134.206) by mail.gmx.net (mp012-rz3) with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 06:40:29 -0000 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030313162831.04640760@pop.qsi.net.nz> X-Sender: 6803933@213.165.64.20 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:17:43 +1300 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: Craig Carey Subject: Blocking addresses of non-spammers; bug reporting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I request that there be some reasoning in the documentation that explains why it is impossible to get a bug report into the FreeBSD systems using a webpage. I suggest that the public would be so suspicious of the purpose of the FreeBSD project in making its bug report system harder to access. --- The postmaster is blocking all e-mail from my research@ijs.co.nz e-mail address. People complaining at freebsd-chat about this. The exact problem I have is that Mr Bresler was not replying to my requests for reasoning, but must have been reading some since he did actually get a reply out when I said I would comment on the ups and downs of purging out good e-mail addresses with which there is no known problem and certainly nothing that would make it into the light of day. When I send e-mail to majordomo@freebsd.org. or to the bug report system, it vanishes. The black-hole-ing deletion seems to be built over matching only on the "From:" header. My address was OK until 14 August 2000. Probably Mr Bresler does not like something I wrote on the Internet. I probably never wrote on FreeBSD to cause the problem. I considered writing to the GNU and/or Linux and/or NetBSD spam controllers. Unfortunately they could cast any light even with a carefully held candle, into the darkest least reasonable upper parts of the FreeBSD project. NetBSD is not blocking my e-mail address. --- Here is the only comment I got from Mr Bresler. It tried to present the postmaster as a person who was unaware that messages vanish on the way to majordomo@freebsd, because he configured the servers/etc to do exactly that. At 2002\10\18 07:29 -0700 Friday, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > >> My e-mail address is research@ijs.c---o.nz. >> >> If you have a dislike of that e-mail address then I request that >> that information (no matter in how bad a shape it is) be provided >> to me. > > we accept email from your address: > >bash-2.04# host freebsd.org That is FreeBSD's own official response. The rest of the message of Mr Bresler was omitted and it shows how he concluded that my e-mail address seems to run fine. At the end he offered a proven dud e-mail address for me to contact him at: postmaster@freebsd.org. I am not impressed with that address since Mr Bresler is as silent as a spider until I assert that I would put a webpage online commenting on his conduct in this matter. ---- The chat list recently got a message from "Janet" on a topic of 'lengthening' just after these three wrote: John Baldwin, Terry Lambert, and Mark Murray. If I don't get some relief from the plight of being associated from people that causing spam, then this could have been worthwhile. I am considering putting up a webpage showing the correlation between who writes and what types of junk mail follows. A hypothesis is that if Mr Bresler writes, then some of the following spam or messages might be on FreeBSD. FreeBSD is the project where the postmaster is officially unaware of the existence of the spam control system. It is not much different for the victims of the spam who are also not sure that Mr Jonathan M Bresler is implement blocking procedures, against targets where it looks like spamming is a threat or a fact. Since I was not posting on 14 August 2002 and messages also were not bouncing, there postmaster does not seem to have any facts available that could be used as pretext. I guess that FreeBSD postmaster (Mr Jonathan M Bresler) either obeys instructions or else browses around in search of awful findings about members. I would like to have the findings out in the public lists here, and I suppose the grounds as well as the reasoning is simply not available from the FreeBSD postmaster. Janet's message and the surrounding messages of March 2003: http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2003/freebsd-chat/20030309.freebsd-chat.html Obviously the spam control software is not as bright as the portsclean software. 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>[/body] >[/html] > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > My privacy rights have been harmed by Mr Bresler - I argue that he was well positioned to be a person who had grounds for the decision to block my e-mail address and purge me on 14 August 2002. Grounds are a material part of the reasoning and I didn't get any even though requesting them. Here is my second message to Mr Bresler using the address he recommended that I use. Since it is from a not-blocked e-mail address, Mr Bresler almost certainly read it. But not reply whatsoever came back. One has to postively criticize the postmaster at some public place before a reply will come back. But since the reply was untrue or misleading the force must have been far less than what the unwritten postmaster office protocol would impose. >At 2002\10\17 03:23 +1300 Thursday, Craig Carey wrote: To: postmaster@FreeBSD.org From: Snowfall > > > >Hello > >My e-mail address got unsubscribed from all FreeBSD mailing lists in >about 14 August 2002. > >I make this request to the person that entired FreeBSD operation > and to yourself, and whoever runs the postmaster@freebsd.org > complaints service: > > Why am I unable to get any message from the mailing list server > system and yourself ?. I request the reasoning for the decision > that was made in August 2002. This is not a request for an > explanation of what went wrong with your decision making in > August, but just the reasoning. > > So far I have not received any information from FreeBSD that is > reasoning. I have no reasoning. > >My e-mail address is research@ijs.c---o.nz. > >If you have a dislike of that e-mail address then I request that >that information (no matter in how bad a shape it is) be provided >to me. > >The FreeBSD server stopped sending e-mail to my e-mail address on >about 14 Aug 2002 06:51:27 -0000. I was subscribed to >FreeBSD-Questions and that was the date of the last message that >I received. > >The request above is for reasoning and thus unable your records >should have the information of the exact [sic] reasoning that was >used on that date. > >You may explain to me if you wish to write to me. Also we may >consider [t]he topic of whether you or others wish to allow >read-only access for my e-mail address whilst not allowing write >access. > >Please put your name in your e-mail address responding to this >e-mail message that I write. > >I do not request a correction to the configuration, i.e to the >blocking. > >Please correct your procedures so that they are made to be fair. >It is a principles of law that decisions may be overturned if >they are not accompanied with reasoning. I don't know what >country you are in so write more on that. > > >Craig Car--ey [<-- not sure how good your scanning filters are] >Auckland >New Zealand I never got a reply to that and to other following messages. ____________________________________________________________________ The message I wrote implies that the main aim of Mr Bresler was NOT to block e-mail I send to FreeBSD. Instead since I can't have read only access to the FreeBSD mailing lists [note that was a message from snowfall@gmx.co.uk, which Mr Bresler is allowing], the aim must be to block out going e-mail. Thus the members of the lists were not being defended. Presumably would not make use of some read only feature of majordomo even if it was available. Again all I know is that the FreeBSD has bad suggestions and no reasoning despite being attacked with messages asking the same question: why?, what were the facts?. Spam control is not really what the spam control system is about. It is more about falsely saying that there is no blocking. > > we accept email from your address: > That is as good as it gets here at FreeBSD after many messages to Mr Bresler. What trashy English: the "W" is not written using an upper case letter. Mr Bresler is a little variant in not putting a hyphen into the word "e-mail". If Mr Bresler does not know how to spell the word "e-mail", then maybe he would be so gracious as to stand down and reapply later. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 13 0: 0:35 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3F137B404 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A832443F93 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:00:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2D80VNS028703 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:00:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2D80VgE028702; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 00:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EDE37B401 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from viper.quantumlogic.net (adsl-63-194-179-10.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.179.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E197E43FBD for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:51:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from duncan@viper.quantumlogic.net) Received: from viper.quantumlogic.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by viper.quantumlogic.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2D7powh001535 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:51:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from duncan@viper.quantumlogic.net) Received: (from duncan@localhost) by viper.quantumlogic.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h2D7pnV9001534; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:51:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200303130751.h2D7pnV9001534@viper.quantumlogic.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:51:49 -0800 (PST) From: Falconer Reply-To: Falconer To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/49977: DLink DWL520 is no longer Prism 2.5 based Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 49977 >Category: docs >Synopsis: DLink DWL520 is no longer Prism 2.5 based >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 13 00:00:31 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: D. Duncan >Release: FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE i386 et al >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD viper 4.6-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE #0: Mon Mar 10 01:02:59 PST 2003 duncan@viper:/usr/src/sys/compile/VIPER_4.6.voxware.smp.joy.nat.wi i386 >Description: DLink DWL520 is no longer Prism 2.5 based Here's the probe from a recent boot: pci0: (vendor=0x1317, dev=0x8201) at 20.0 irq 9 The vendor is ADMTek and the chipset is 8211 based. DLink redesigned the board with a different chipset but didn't change the model number. >How-To-Repeat: Purchase a new DWL520 card >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 13 2:32:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5690A37B404 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-233-57-224.client.attbi.com [12.233.57.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB7043FA3 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:32:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@freebsd.org) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2DAWHIX013388 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:32:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@freebsd.org) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h2DAWHID013387 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:32:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from das@freebsd.org) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 02:32:17 -0800 From: David Schultz To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_4 Tag... Message-ID: <20030313103217.GA13321@HAL9000.homeunix.com> References: <20030310094853.L3006-100000@beck.quonix.net> <200303102147.10992.wes@softweyr.com> <20030311082450.GB5161@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <200303110818.32215.wes@softweyr.com> <20030311163820.GA70445@intruder.bmah.org> <20030311211550.GA7157@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20030311170704.B1461@znfgre.tberna.bet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030311170704.B1461@znfgre.tberna.bet> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Doug Barton : > [Follow-ups set to -doc] Please CC me. I'm not subscribed ATM for lack of time. > Well that's just silliness... if you have contributions to the FAQ, file > PR's at least. That way the issue can be addressed in real terms (instead > of, "What would happen if I?"). At time time, fixing things that nobody expressed an interest in committing was very low on my list of things to do unless the thing I was fixing was an annoyance to me personally. > But seriously folks, I suggested a while back that "we" reorganize the > useful information in the FAQ so that it lives in the appropriate location > in the handbook, and turn the FAQ itself into links back to the handbook. > At the time I was laughed out of court for a couple reasons, not the least > of which was resources. But we've got a pretty solid core of doc > committers nowadays, perhaps it's time to revisit this idea? I think the documentation team has done a spectacular job on the Handbook, and on advocating FreeBSD in general. But the FAQ has received far less attention from the looks of it, and incorrect (outdated) answers are often worse than no answers at all. Thus, I would advocate moving its content to the Handbook and getting rid of it, or making it a sort of index into the Handbook as you suggest. (The question, then, is whether it's really a useful index.) Anyway, there are plenty of people on doc@ who are more knowledgeable about the underlying issues than I am, so I'll leave the matter up to them. My original point was merely that I don't blame the original poster for not finding the answer to his question in the FAQ. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 13 6:51:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD1537B404 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:51:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxc.rambler.ru (mxc.rambler.ru [81.19.66.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D3743FDF for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:51:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from otdel23@rambler.ru) Received: from mail2.rambler.ru (mail2.rambler.ru [81.19.66.21]) by mxc.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8EFB9E3 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:04:43 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from otdel23@rambler.ru) Received: from [81.19.66.146] (account ) by mail2.rambler.ru (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.0.6) with HTTP id 2626299 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:50:35 +0300 From: "Ivan Ivanov" Subject: =?windows-1251?Q?=C4=E2=E0_=EC=EE=ED=E8=F2=EE=F0=E0?= To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.4.0.6 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:50:35 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Çäðàâñòâóéòå! 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Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Âèêòîð argmis@list.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 13 7:24:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A168137B401; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:24:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (external.osdn.org.ua [212.40.34.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8552743F3F; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:24:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (never@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2DFNVDE097924; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:24:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: (from never@localhost) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2DFNVZq097923; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:23:31 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:21:37 +0200 From: Alexandr Kovalenko To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: en_US/books/handbook/book.pd* b0rken Message-ID: <20030313152137.GA97343@nevermind.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looks like pdf version of handbook on ftp-master b0rken: $ pwd /pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook $ ls -la book.pdf.* -r--r--r-- 1 91 maildrop 275 Mar 11 08:04 book.pdf.bz2 -r--r--r-- 1 91 maildrop 232 Mar 11 08:04 book.pdf.gz -r--r--r-- 1 91 maildrop 362 Mar 11 08:04 book.pdf.zip -- NEVE-RIPE, will build world for food Ukrainian FreeBSD User Group http://uafug.org.ua/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 13 9: 2:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E4737B401 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D9C43F93 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:02:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sean@perrin.int.nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C0B8F21084; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:01:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:01:55 -0800 From: Sean Chittenden To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Whitespace in handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml... 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BUVSGULFRIDQEREVPJVZVRSXKJTUFVROVKWBMH To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 13 14:45:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9543437B404 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318C443F75 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:45:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysadmin@alexdupre.com) Received: from thunder.alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 23:44:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 23:45:18 +0100 From: Alex Dupre X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Reply-To: Alex Dupre X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1816474760.20030313234518@alexdupre.com> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: dsssl-docbook-modular MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've just finished porting the new 1.78 version, but it seems to have the same problem of 1.77 :( Building handbook hangs: PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 55061 root 62 0 51676K 31520K RUN 17:54 99.02% 99.02% openjade -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: Your cat tried to eat the mouse. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 13 15:11:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EB637B401 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:11:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpe-24-162-204-149.elp.rr.com (cpe-24-162-204-149.elp.rr.com [24.162.204.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 577D643FA3 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:11:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vasin.otdel.stroy2003@lek.ru) From: Íà÷àëüíèê äîãîâîðíîãî îòäåëà Âàñèí Àíäðåé Âëàäèìèðîâè÷ To: Faq Subject: Ïpeäëîæeíèe ïo còpoèòeëücòây MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030313231135.577D643FA3@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:11:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ñòðîèòåëüíàÿ êîìïàíèÿ "Ñïèãàò"
 
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Ñòðîèòåëüíàÿ êîìïàíèÿ "Ñïèãàò" ïðåäëàãàåò ñâîè óñëóãè â îáëàñòè ïðîåêòèðîâàíèÿ, ñòðîèòåëüñòâà, ðåìîíòó, ðåêîíñòðóêöèè ïðîìûøëåííûõ ñäàíèé è ñîîðóæåíèé.

ÑÊ "Ñïèãàò" ðàáîòàåò íà ñòðîèòåëüíîì ðûíêå ñ 1993 ãîäà.  òå÷åíèå âñåãî âðåìåíè ðàáîòû ñîòðóäíèêè íàøåé êîìïàíèè ñîçäàëè ñïëî÷åííûé ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûé êîëëåêòèâ èç âûïóñêíèêîâ ëó÷øèõ òåõíè÷åñêèõ âóçîâ ñòîëèöû è Ïîäìîñêîâüÿ, êîòîðûé ìîæåò îïåðàòèâíî ðåøàòü çàäà÷è ëþáîãî óðîâíÿ ñëîæíîñòè, ñâÿçàííîãî ñ íàøåé ïðîôåññèîíàëüíîé äåÿòåëüíîñòüþ. Íàêîïëåí áîãàòûé îïûò ïðàêòè÷åñêîé ðàáîòû, îòðàáîòàíî âçàèìîäåéñòâèå ñ ïðîåêòíûìè èíñòèòóòàìè ïîñòàâùèêàìè ìàòåðèàëîâ è îáîðóäîâàíèÿ. Ìàòåðèàëüíî òåõíè÷åñêàÿ áàçà ïîçâîëÿåò ïðîèçâîäèòü øèðîêèé ñïåêòð ðàáîò ñîáñòâåííûìè ñèëàìè.

Ìåíåäæåðû ïðîåêòîâ ãîòîâû ïîäêëþ÷èòüñÿ ê ðåàëèçàöèè Âàøèõ ïëàíîâ íà ýòàïå ïîëó÷åíèÿ èñõîäíî-ðàçðåøèòåëüíîé äîêóìåíòàöèè è ó÷àñòâîâàòü â îñóùåñòâëåíèè óïðàâëåíèÿ ñòðîèòåëüíûì ïðîöåññîì äî ñäà÷è îáúåêòà ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé êîìèññèè.

Îñíîâíûìè íàïðàâëåíèÿìè äåÿòåëüíîñòè ôèðìû ÿâëÿåòñÿ ñòðîèòåëüñòâî ïðîìûøëåííûõ è ãðàæäàíñêèõ çäàíèé è ñîîðóæåíèé, à òàêæå êàïèòàëüíûé ðåìîíò ïðîìûøëåííûõ çäàíèé è ñîîðóæåíèé, â òîì ÷èñëå èíæåíåðíûå êîììóíèêàöèè, êîòåëüíûå, ãàçîâîå îáîðóäîâàíèå.

Ñî äíÿ îñíîâàíèÿ ôèðìû îñíîâíûì ïðèíöèïàìè ðàáîòû ÿâëÿþòñÿ íàäåæíîñòü, âûñîêîå êà÷åñòâî, ñòðîãîå ñîáëþäåíèå ñîãëàñîâàííûõ ñðîêîâ ñòðîèòåëüñòâà è ïîæåëàíèé Çàêàç÷èêà.

Ñ óâàæåíèåì,
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Reply-To: Robert Drehmel Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/42293; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Robert Drehmel To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, karp@internet2.edu Cc: Subject: Re: docs/42293: copystr(9) man page incorrectly describes it as... Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:01:28 +0100 Hello. The manual page is correct and in agreement with how the function is implemented and used: copying of a NUL-terminated string in kernel space. ciao, -robert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 14 8: 3:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E150D37B405; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5967443F85; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:03:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (roam@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2EG3iNS031353; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:03:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roam@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from roam@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2EG3hOQ031349; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:03:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:03:43 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Pentchev Message-Id: <200303141603.h2EG3hOQ031349@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sysadmin@alexdupre.com, roam@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/49117: Remove ftp mirror from handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Remove ftp mirror from handbook State-Changed-From-To: patched->closed State-Changed-By: roam State-Changed-When: Fri Mar 14 08:01:57 PST 2003 State-Changed-Why: The patch to sysinstall was also committed; ftp2.it.FreeBSD.org is now gone! :) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=49117 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 14 8:11:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1495637B401 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D95543FAF for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:11:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org (12-240-204-110.client.attbi.com[12.240.204.110]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <2003031416112000100gv06ne>; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:11:20 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2EGBJWp030139; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:11:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2EGBISV030138; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:11:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:11:17 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Lucky Green Cc: "'Hiroki Sato'" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vs. &man.command.section Message-ID: <20030314161117.GB29924@intruder.bmah.org> References: <20030313.025224.98423896.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp> <00aa01c2e8c5$d079cdc0$6601a8c0@VAIO650> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00aa01c2e8c5$d079cdc0$6601a8c0@VAIO650> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If memory serves me right, Lucky Green wrote: > Hiroki Sato wrote: > > shamrock> 2) Is it required that every time a FreeBSD command is=20 > > shamrock> mentioned the command _must_ be surrounded by the = =20 > > shamrock> tags? I have explanatory text paragraphs in which gbde is=20 > > shamrock> mentioned multiple times and having all these bold=20 > > instances=20 > > shamrock> of gbde in the same paragraph looks strange to me=20 > > (in the html=20 > > shamrock> output). > >=20 > > Hmmm, could you please show an example? >=20 > First of all, sorry for the mental typo. I meant to say , > not . >=20 > Here is an example of some text that I wrote that I believe may be too > cluttered with bold face terms when rendered as HTML: (or PDF or...) > > Compatibility issues > &man.sysinstall.8; is incompatible with > gbde-encrypted devices. All > gbde devices must be detached from the kernel > before launching sysinstall or > sysinstall will crash during its initial > probing for devices. To detach the gbde > device used in our example, use the following command: > > &prompt.root; gbde detach /dev/ad4s1c.bde > > Hmmm. I'm not real happy with the above markup either. If it was me, I would have done the markup like this: Compatibility issues &man.sysinstall.8; is incompatible with &man.gbde.4;-encrypted devices. All &man.gbde.4; devices must be detached from the kernel before launching &man.sysinstall.8; or &man.sysinstall.8; will crash during its initial probing for devices. To detach the &man.gbde.4; device used in our example, use the following command: &prompt.root; gbde detach /dev/ad4s1c.bde That's still a little repetitive, but better than before. (Note that the original author might have written this before the gbde(4) manpage was added to the tree.) I generally use the elements when referring to a software package as a whole and manpage entities when referring to specific executables. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 14 13:50:17 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0A337B401 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:50:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65EF43FBF for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:50:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2ELoANS052829 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:50:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2ELoAMq052828; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F89437B401 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebsd.org.ru (freebsd.org.ru [194.84.67.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7622B43FA3 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from osa@freebsd.org.ru) Received: by freebsd.org.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3C60E1CA; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 00:46:43 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <20030314214643.3C60E1CA@freebsd.org.ru> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 00:46:43 +0300 (MSK) From: "Sergey A.Osokin" Reply-To: "Sergey A.Osokin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50013: [PATCH] add much more russian holydays Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 50013 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] add much more russian holydays >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 14 13:50:09 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sergey A. Osokin >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: n/a >Environment: System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Description: Add much more russian holydays: military and other stuff Split all holydays into categories: non-working "red" days and other Correct some holydays dates Sort categories in calendar.all Information obtained from http://www.bridge-media.ru/spravka/s_celeb.htm >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/ru_RU.KOI8-R/calendar.all =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/ru_RU.KOI8-R/calendar.all,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 calendar.all --- src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/ru_RU.KOI8-R/calendar.all 2000/05/04 11:31:15 1.5 +++ src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/ru_RU.KOI8-R/calendar.all 2003/03/14 21:24:08 @@ -8,8 +8,10 @@ #define _ru_RU_KOI8_R_all #include +#include #include -#include #include +#include +#include #endif /* !_ru_RU_KOI8_R_all */ Index: src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/ru_RU.KOI8-R/calendar.common =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/ru_RU.KOI8-R/calendar.common,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 calendar.common --- src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/ru_RU.KOI8-R/calendar.common 2002/07/14 13:29:27 1.11 +++ src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/ru_RU.KOI8-R/calendar.common 2003/03/14 21:24:09 @@ -9,38 +9,79 @@ LANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R - 1 ÑÎ× îÏ×ÙÊ ÇÏÄ +12 ÑÎ× äÅÎØ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÁ ÐÒÏËÕÒÁÔÕÒÙ +13 ÑÎ× äÅÎØ ÒÏÓÓÉÊÓËÏÊ ÐÅÞÁÔÉ 14 ÑÎ× óÔÁÒÙÊ îÏ×ÙÊ ÇÏÄ +21 ÑÎ× äÅÎØ ÉÎÖÅÎÅÒÎÙÈ ×ÏÊÓË 25 ÑÎ× ôÁÔØÑÎÉÎ ÄÅÎØ. óÔÕÄÅÎÞÅÓËÉÊ ÐÒÁÚÄÎÉË -23 ÆÅ× äÅÎØ úÁÝÉÔÎÉËÁ ïÔÅÞÅÓÔ×Á 1 ÍÁÒ ÷ÓÅÍÉÒÎÙÊ ÄÅÎØ ÇÒÁÖÄÁÎÓËÏÊ ÏÂÏÒÏÎÙ - 8 ÍÁÒ íÅÖÄÕÎÁÒÏÄÎÙÊ öÅÎÓËÉÊ äÅÎØ +03/SunThird äÅÎØ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÏ× ÔÏÒÇÏ×ÌÉ, ÂÙÔÏ×ÏÇÏ ÏÂÓÌÕÖÉ×ÁÎÉÑ ÎÁÓÅÌÅÎÉÑ É ÖÉÌÉÝÎÏ-ËÏÍÍÕÎÁÌØÎÏÇÏ ÈÏÚÑÊÓÔ×Á 27 ÍÁÒ íÅÖÄÕÎÁÒÏÄÎÙÊ ÄÅÎØ ÔÅÁÔÒÁ +27 ÍÁÒ äÅÎØ ×ÎÕÔÒÅÎÎÉÈ ×ÏÊÓË 1 ÁÐÒ äÅÎØ ÓÍÅÈÁ + 2 ÁÐÒ äÅÎØ ÅÄÉÎÅÎÉÑ ÎÁÒÏÄÏ× +04/SunFirst äÅÎØ ÇÅÏÌÏÇÁ 12 ÁÐÒ äÅÎØ ËÏÓÍÏÎÁ×ÔÉËÉ - 1 ÍÁÊ ðÒÁÚÄÎÉË ×ÅÓÎÙ É ÔÒÕÄÁ +04/SunSecond äÅÎØ ×ÏÊÓË ÐÒÏÔÉ×Ï×ÏÚÄÕÛÎÏÊ ÏÂÏÒÏÎÙ +04/SunThird äÅÎØ ÎÁÕËÉ +26 ÁÐÒ äÅÎØ ÐÁÍÑÔÉ ÐÏÇÉÂÛÉÈ × ÒÁÄÉÁÃÉÏÎÎÙÈ Á×ÁÒÉÑÈ É ËÁÔÁÓÔÒÏÆÁÈ 5 ÍÁÊ äÅÎØ ÐÅÞÁÔÉ 7 ÍÁÊ äÅÎØ ÒÁÄÉÏ - 9 ÍÁÊ äÅÎØ ðÏÂÅÄÙ 17 ÍÁÊ íÅÖÄÕÎÁÒÏÄÎÙÊ ÄÅÎØ ÔÅÌÅËÏÍÍÕÎÉËÁÃÉÊ 18 ÍÁÊ íÅÖÄÕÎÁÒÏÄÎÙÊ ÄÅÎØ ÍÕÚÅÅ× +24 ÍÁÊ äÅÎØ ÓÌÁ×ÑÎÓËÏÊ ÐÉÓØÍÅÎÎÏÓÔÉ É ËÕÌØÔÕÒÙ +27 ÍÁÊ ïÂÝÅÒÏÓÓÉÊÓËÉÊ ÄÅÎØ ÂÉÂÌÉÏÔÅË +28 ÍÁÊ äÅÎØ ÐÏÇÒÁÎÉÞÎÉËÁ +05/SunLast äÅÎØ ÈÉÍÉËÁ 1 ÉÀÎ äÅÎØ ÚÁÝÉÔÙ ÄÅÔÅÊ + 6 ÉÀÎ ðÕÛËÉÎÓËÉÊ ÄÅÎØ 8 ÉÀÎ äÅÎØ ÓÏÃÉÁÌØÎÏÇÏ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÁ -12 ÉÀÎ äÅÎØ ÎÅÚÁ×ÉÓÉÍÏÓÔÉ òÏÓÓÉÉ +06/SunSecond äÅÎØ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÏ× ÌÅÇËÏÊ ÐÒÏÍÙÛÌÅÎÎÏÓÔÉ +06/SunThird äÅÎØ ÍÅÄÉÃÉÎÓËÏÇÏ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÁ +22 ÉÀÎ äÅÎØ ÐÁÍÑÔÉ É ÓËÏÒÂÉ (îÁÞÁÌÏ ÷ÅÌÉËÏÊ ïÔÅÞÅÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏÊ ÷ÏÊÎÙ, 1941 ÇÏÄ) +27 ÉÀÎ äÅÎØ ÍÏÌÏÄÅÖÉ +06/SatLast äÅÎØ ÉÚÏÂÒÅÔÁÔÅÌÑ É ÒÁÃÉÏÎÁÌÉÚÁÔÏÒÁ +07/SunFirst äÅÎØ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÏ× ÍÏÒÓËÏÇÏ É ÒÅÞÎÏÇÏ ÆÌÏÔÁ +07/SunSecond äÅÎØ ÒÙÂÁËÁ +07/SunSecond äÅÎØ ÒÏÓÓÉÊÓËÏÊ ÐÏÞÔÙ +07/SunThird äÅÎØ ÍÅÔÁÌÌÕÒÇÁ +07/SunLast äÅÎØ ÷ÏÅÎÎÏ-íÏÒÓËÏÇÏ æÌÏÔÁ + 6 Á×Ç äÅÎØ ÖÅÌÅÚÎÏÄÏÒÏÖÎÙÈ ×ÏÊÓË +08/SunFirst äÅÎØ ÖÅÌÅÚÎÏÄÏÒÏÖÎÉËÁ +12 Á×Ç äÅÎØ ×ÏÅÎÎÏ-×ÏÚÄÕÛÎÙÈ ÓÉÌ +08/SunSecond äÅÎØ ÓÔÒÏÉÔÅÌÑ +08/SunThird äÅÎØ ÷ÏÚÄÕÛÎÏÇÏ æÌÏÔÁ òÏÓÓÉÉ +22 Á×Ç äÅÎØ ÇÏÓÕÄÁÒÓÔ×ÅÎÎÏÇÏ ÆÌÁÇÁ +27 Á×Ç äÅÎØ ËÉÎÏ +08/SunLast äÅÎØ ÛÁÈÔÅÒÁ 1 ÓÅÎ äÅÎØ ÚÎÁÎÉÊ +09/SunFirst äÅÎØ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÏ× ÎÅÆÔÑÎÏÊ É ÇÁÚÏ×ÏÊ ÐÒÏÍÙÛÌÅÎÎÏÓÔÉ +13 ÓÅÎ îÅÏÆÉÃÉÁÌØÎÙÊ ÄÅÎØ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÓÔÁ. (256-Ê ÄÅÎØ ÇÏÄÁ, ÄÅÎØ ÎÅÚÁ×ÉÓÁÅÍÏÓÔÉ) +09/SunSecond äÅÎØ ÔÁÎËÉÓÔÁ +09/SunThird äÅÎØ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÏ× ÌÅÓÁ +09/SunLast äÅÎØ ÍÁÛÉÎÏÓÔÒÏÉÔÅÌÑ + 1 ÏËÔ äÅÎØ ÐÏÖÉÌÙÈ ÌÀÄÅÊ + 4 ÏËÔ äÅÎØ ×ÏÅÎÎÏ-ËÏÓÍÉÞÅÓËÉÈ ÓÉÌ + 5 ÏËÔ äÅÎØ ÕÞÉÔÅÌÑ 14 ÏËÔ íÅÖÄÕÎÁÒÏÄÎÙÊ ÄÅÎØ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÉÚÁÃÉÉ 24 ÏËÔ íÅÖÄÕÎÁÒÏÄÎÙÊ ÄÅÎØ ïïî - 7 ÎÏÑ äÅÎØ ÐÒÉÍÉÒÅÎÉÑ É ÓÏÇÌÁÓÉÑ +25 ÏËÔ äÅÎØ ÔÁÍÏÖÅÎÎÉËÁ +30 ÏËÔ äÅÎØ ÐÁÍÑÔÉ ÖÅÒÔ× ÐÏÌÉÔÉÞÅÓËÉÈ ÒÅÐÒÅÓÓÉÊ +10/SunLast äÅÎØ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÏ× Á×ÔÏÍÏÂÉÌØÎÏÇÏ ÔÒÁÎÓÐÏÒÔÁ É ÄÏÒÏÖÎÏÇÏ ÈÏÚÑÊÓÔ×Á 9 ÎÏÑ ÷ÓÅÍÉÒÎÙÊ ÄÅÎØ ËÁÞÅÓÔ×Á 10 ÎÏÑ äÅÎØ ÍÉÌÉÃÉÉ 16 ÎÏÑ äÅÎØ ÍÏÒÓËÏÊ ÐÅÈÏÔÙ 17 ÎÏÑ íÅÖÄÕÎÁÒÏÄÎÙÊ ÄÅÎØ ÓÔÕÄÅÎÔÏ× -19 ÎÏÑ äÅÎØ ÒÁËÅÔÎÙÈ ×ÏÊÓË É ÁÒÔÉÌÌÅÒÉÉ +11/SunThird äÅÎØ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÏ× ÓÅÌØÓËÏÇÏ ÈÏÚÑÊÓÔ×Á É ÐÅÒÅÒÁÂÁÔÙ×ÁÀÝÅÊ ÐÒÏÍÙÛÌÅÎÎÏÓÔÉ +11/SunThird äÅÎØ ÒÁËÅÔÎÙÈ ×ÏÊÓË É ÁÒÔÉÌÌÅÒÉÉ 21 ÎÏÑ äÅÎØ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÏ× ÎÁÌÏÇÏ×ÙÈ ÏÒÇÁÎÏ× 26 ÎÏÑ ÷ÓÅÍÉÒÎÙÊ ÄÅÎØ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÉ +11/SunLast äÅÎØ ÍÁÔÅÒÉ 1 ÄÅË ÷ÓÅÍÉÒÎÙÊ ÄÅÎØ ÂÏÒØÂÙ ÓÏ óðéäÏÍ -12 ÄÅË äÅÎØ ëÏÎÓÔÉÔÕÃÉÉ -22 ÄÅË äÅÎØ ÜÎÅÒÇÅÔÉËÁ +17 ÄÅË äÅÎØ ÒÁËÅÔÎÙÈ ×ÏÊÓË ÓÔÒÁÔÅÇÉÞÅÓËÏÇÏ ÎÁÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÑ +20 ÄÅË äÅÎØ ÒÁÂÏÔÎÉËÁ ÏÒÇÁÎÏ× ÂÅÚÏÐÁÓÎÏÓÔÉ +12/SunThird äÅÎØ ÜÎÅÒÇÅÔÉËÁ +27 ÄÅË äÅÎØ ÓÐÁÓÁÔÅÌÑ #endif /* !_ru_RU_KOI8_R_common_ */ --- /dev/null Sat Mar 15 00:22:00 2003 +++ src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/ru_RU.KOI8-R/calendar.red Sat Mar 15 00:07:38 2003 @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +/* + * òÕÓÓËÉÅ ÐÒÁÚÄÎÉËÉ (ÎÅÒÁÂÏÞÉÅ "ËÒÁÓÎÙÅ" ÄÎÉ) + * + * $FreeBSD$ + */ + +#ifndef _ru_RU_KOI8_R_red_ +#define _ru_RU_KOI8_R_red_ + +LANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R + + 1 ÑÎ× îÏ×ÙÊ ÇÏÄ +23 ÆÅ× äÅÎØ úÁÝÉÔÎÉËÁ ïÔÅÞÅÓÔ×Á + 8 ÍÁÒ íÅÖÄÕÎÁÒÏÄÎÙÊ öÅÎÓËÉÊ äÅÎØ + 1 ÍÁÊ ðÒÁÚÄÎÉË ×ÅÓÎÙ É ÔÒÕÄÁ + 2 ÍÁÊ ðÒÁÚÄÎÉË ×ÅÓÎÙ É ÔÒÕÄÁ + 9 ÍÁÊ äÅÎØ ðÏÂÅÄÙ +12 ÉÀÎ äÅÎØ ÎÅÚÁ×ÉÓÉÍÏÓÔÉ + 7 ÎÏÑ äÅÎØ ÐÒÉÍÉÒÅÎÉÑ É ÓÏÇÌÁÓÉÑ +12 ÄÅË äÅÎØ ëÏÎÓÔÉÔÕÃÉÉ + +#endif /* !_ru_RU_KOI8_R_red_ */ + --- /dev/null Sat Mar 15 00:22:00 2003 +++ src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/ru_RU.KOI8-R/calendar.military Sat Mar 15 00:14:32 2003 @@ -0,0 +1,26 @@ +/* + * äÎÉ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù òÏÓÓÉÉ + * + * $FreeBSD$ + */ + +#ifndef _ru_RU_KOI8_R_military_ +#define _ru_RU_KOI8_R_military_ + +LANG=ru_RU.KOI8-R + +27 ÑÎ× äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù. äÅÎØ ÓÎÑÔÉÑ ÂÌÏËÁÄÙ ÇÏÒÏÄÁ ìÅÎÉÎÇÒÁÄÁ (1944 ÇÏÄ) + 2 ÆÅ× äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù. äÅÎØ ÒÁÚÇÒÏÍÁ ÓÏ×ÅÔÓËÉÍÉ ×ÏÊÓËÁÍÉ ÎÅÍÅÃËÏ-ÆÁÛÉÓÔÓËÉÈ ×ÏÊÓË × óÔÁÌÉÎÇÒÁÄÓËÏÊ ÂÉÔ×Å (1943 ÇÏÄ) +18 ÁÐÒ äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù. äÅÎØ ÐÏÂÅÄÙ ÒÕÓÓËÉÈ ×ÏÉÎÏ× ËÎÑÚÑ áÌÅËÓÁÎÄÒÁ îÅ×ÓËÏÇÏ ÎÁÄ ÎÅÍÅÃËÉÍÉ ÒÙÃÁÒÑÍÉ ÎÁ þÕÄÓËÏÍ ÏÚÅÒÅ (ìÅÄÏ×ÏÅ ÐÏÂÏÉÝÅ, 1242 ÇÏÄ) +10 ÉÀÌ äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù. äÅÎØ ÐÏÂÅÄÙ ÒÕÓÓËÏÊ ÁÒÍÉÉ ÐÏÄ ËÏÍÁÎÄÏ×ÁÎÉÅÍ ðÅÔÒÁ ðÅÒ×ÏÇÏ ÎÁÄ Û×ÅÄÁÍÉ × ðÏÌÔÁ×ÓËÏÍ ÓÒÁÖÅÎÉÉ (1709 ÇÏÄ) + 9 Á×Ç äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù. äÅÎØ ÐÅÒ×ÏÊ × ÒÏÓÓÉÊÓËÏÊ ÉÓÔÏÒÉÉ ÍÏÒÓËÏÊ ÐÏÂÅÄÙ ÒÕÓÓËÏÇÏ ÆÌÏÔÁ ÐÏÄ ËÏÍÁÎÄÏ×ÁÎÉÅÍ ðÅÔÒÁ ðÅÒ×ÏÇÏ ÎÁÄ Û×ÅÄÁÍÉ Õ ÍÙÓÁ çÁÎÇÕÔ (1714 ÇÏÄ) +23 Á×Ç äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù. äÅÎØ ÒÁÚÇÒÏÍÁ ÓÏ×ÅÔÓËÉÍÉ ×ÏÊÓËÁÍÉ ÎÅÍÅÃËÏ-ÆÁÛÉÓÔÓËÉÈ ×ÏÊÓË × ëÕÒÓËÏÊ ÂÉÔ×Å (1943 ÇÏÄ) + 8 ÓÅÎ äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù. äÅÎØ âÏÒÏÄÉÎÓËÏÇÏ ÓÒÁÖÅÎÉÑ ÒÕÓÓËÏÊ ÁÒÍÉÉ ÐÏÄ ËÏÍÁÎÄÏ×ÁÎÉÅÍ í.é. ëÕÔÕÚÏ×Á Ó ÆÒÁÎÃÕÚÓËÏÊ ÁÒÍÉÅÊ (1812 ÇÏÄ) +11 ÓÅÎ äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù. äÅÎØ ÐÏÂÅÄÙ ÒÕÓÓËÏÊ ÜÓËÁÄÒÙ ÐÏÄ ËÏÍÁÎÄÏ×ÁÎÉÅÍ æ.æ. õÛÁËÏ×Á ÎÁÄ ÔÕÒÅÃËÏÊ ÜÓËÁÄÒÏÊ Õ ÍÙÓÁ ôÅÎÄÒÁ (1790 ÇÏÄ) +21 ÓÅÎ äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù òÏÓÓÉÉ. äÅÎØ ÐÏÂÅÄÙ ÒÕÓÓËÉÈ ÐÏÌËÏ× ×Ï ÇÌÁ×Å Ó ×ÅÌÉËÉÍ ËÎÑÚÅÍ äÍÉÔÒÉÅÍ äÏÎÓËÉÍ ÎÁÄ ÍÏÎÇÏÌÏ-ÔÁÔÁÒÓËÉÍÉ ×ÏÊÓËÁÍÉ × ëÕÌÉËÏ×ÓËÏÊ ÂÉÔ×Å (1380 ÇÏÄ) + 1 ÄÅË äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù. äÅÎØ ÐÏÂÅÄÙ ÒÕÓÓËÏÊ ÜÓËÁÄÒÙ ÐÏÄ ËÏÍÁÎÄÏ×ÁÎÉÅÍ ð.ó. îÁÈÉÍÏ×Á ÎÁÄ ÔÕÒÅÃËÏÊ ÜÓËÁÄÒÏÊ Õ ÍÙÓÁ óÉÎÏÐ (1853 ÇÏÄ) + 5 ÄÅË äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù. äÅÎØ ÎÁÞÁÌÁ ËÏÎÔÒÎÁÓÔÕÐÌÅÎÉÑ ÓÏ×ÅÔÓËÉÈ ×ÏÊÓË ÐÒÏÔÉ× ÎÅÍÅÃËÏ-ÆÁÛÉÓÔÓËÉÈ ×ÏÊÓË × ÂÉÔ×Å ÐÏÄ íÏÓË×ÏÊ (1941 ÇÏÄ) +24 ÄÅË äÅÎØ ×ÏÉÎÓËÏÊ ÓÌÁ×Ù. äÅÎØ ×ÚÑÔÉÑ ÔÕÒÅÃËÏÊ ËÒÅÐÏÓÔÉ éÚÍÁÉÌ ÒÕÓÓËÉÍÉ ×ÏÊÓËÁÍÉ ÐÏÄ ËÏÍÁÎÄÏ×ÁÎÉÅÍ á.÷. óÕ×ÏÒÏ×Á (1790 ÇÏÄ) + +#endif /* !_ru_RU_KOI8_R_msk_ */ + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 14 17: 0:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0A037B401 for ; 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Sat, 15 Mar 2003 01:54:47 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20030315005447.BAF5010BF94@arthur.nitro.dk> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 01:54:47 +0100 (CET) From: "Simon L.Nielsen" Reply-To: "Simon L.Nielsen" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50014: FreeBSD From Scratch article breaks objdir build Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 50014 >Category: docs >Synopsis: FreeBSD From Scratch article breaks objdir build >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 14 17:00:20 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Simon L. Nielsen >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD trillian.nitro.dk 5.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Jan 18 21:36:54 CET 2003 root@trillian-tmp.nitro.dk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >Description: If the obj directory exists (by doing 'make obj') the FreeBSD From Scrath article fails to install. I have attached a patch that unbreaks the build and install the shell scripts (stage_[123].sh) correctly to the destination dir. The inline versions in the article still don't work with obj directory but I don't know how to fix that. >How-To-Repeat: Note: I have removed the warnings about duplicate script execpt for the first time since that just confuses the output. $ cd /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/ $ make all install "/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/mk/doc.docbook.mk", line 2: warning: duplicate script for target "install-html-split.tar.gz" ignored "/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/mk/doc.docbook.mk", line 3: warning: duplicate script for target "install-html-split.tar.gz" ignored "/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/mk/doc.docbook.mk", line 2: warning: duplicate script for target "install-html-split.tar.bz2" ignored "/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/mk/doc.docbook.mk", line 3: warning: duplicate script for target "install-html-split.tar.bz2" ignored "/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/mk/doc.docbook.mk", line 2: warning: duplicate script for target "install-html-split.tar.zip" ignored "/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/mk/doc.docbook.mk", line 3: warning: duplicate script for target "install-html-split.tar.zip" ignored "/usr/share/mk/bsd.subdir.mk", line 8: warning: duplicate script for target "files" ignored "/usr/share/mk/bsd.subdir.mk", line 8: warning: duplicate script for target "includes" ignored /bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/misc/docbook.css > docbook.css /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -ioutput.html.images -D /usr/obj/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch -c /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -t sgml /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) install -C -o FreeBSD -g FreeBSD -m 444 article.html /usr/local/www/data/FreeBSD-doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch install -C -o FreeBSD -g FreeBSD -m 444 docbook.css /usr/local/www/data/FreeBSD-doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch install -C -o FreeBSD -g FreeBSD -m 444 stage_1.sh stage_2.sh stage_3.mk /usr/local/www/data/FreeBSD-doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch $ make clean cleandir rm -f article.html PLIST.html docbook.css rm -rf imagelib rm -f article.html PLIST.html docbook.css rm -rf imagelib $ make obj /usr/obj/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch created for /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch $ make all install /bin/rm -f /usr/obj/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/docbook.css /bin/cat /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/misc/docbook.css > /usr/obj/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/docbook.css /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -V %generate-legalnotice-link% -ioutput.html.images -D /usr/obj/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch -c /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -t sgml /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot find "stage_1.sh"; tried "stage_1.sh", "/usr/obj/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/stage_1.sh" /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot find "stage_2.sh"; tried "stage_2.sh", "/usr/obj/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/stage_2.sh" /usr/local/bin/jade:E: cannot find "stage_3.mk"; tried "stage_3.mk", "/usr/obj/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/stage_3.mk" /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml article.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) install -C -o FreeBSD -g FreeBSD -m 444 article.html /usr/local/www/data/FreeBSD-doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch install -C -o FreeBSD -g FreeBSD -m 444 /usr/obj/data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/docbook.css /usr/local/www/data/FreeBSD-doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch install -C -o FreeBSD -g FreeBSD -m 444 stage_1.sh stage_2.sh stage_3.mk /usr/local/www/data/FreeBSD-doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch install: stage_1.sh: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /data/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch. >Fix: Partial fix. --- doc-fbsd-scract-obj-build.patch begins here --- Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -d -r1.1 Makefile --- Makefile 8 Mar 2003 08:26:10 -0000 1.1 +++ Makefile 10 Mar 2003 23:10:11 -0000 @@ -18,6 +18,8 @@ DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. afterinstall: - ${INSTALL_DOCS} stage_1.sh stage_2.sh stage_3.mk ${DESTDIR} + ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${.CURDIR}/stage_1.sh ${DESTDIR} + ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${.CURDIR}/stage_2.sh ${DESTDIR} + ${INSTALL_DOCS} ${.CURDIR}/stage_3.mk ${DESTDIR} .include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk" --- doc-fbsd-scract-obj-build.patch ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 14 18:12: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6097F37B401 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CA743F85 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@unixpages.org) Received: from gondor.middleearth (gondor.middleearth [192.168.1.42]) by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A31A91E; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 03:12:01 +0100 (CET) Received: by gondor.middleearth (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B8F0C44E4; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 03:12:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 03:12:01 +0100 From: Christian Brueffer To: Gene Mosher Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken link Message-ID: <20030315021201.GA803@unixpages.org> References: <3E715C0E.7000407@viewtouch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ibTvN161/egqYuK8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E715C0E.7000407@viewtouch.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 08:35:26PM -0800, Gene Mosher wrote: > on this page, > http://www.freebsd.org/projects/index.html > the link in this text > "The Linux+FreeBSD mini-HOWTO" > needs to be updated. >=20 Hi, I've replaced the link with a working one. 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Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dougb Responsible-Changed-By: dougb Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Mar 14 23:36:33 PST 2003 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll handle the patch. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=49014 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 15 2: 4:38 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C127C37B401 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 02:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from 211-189-139-167.rev.krline.net (211-189-139-167.rev.krline.net [211.189.139.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 748D143F75 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 02:04:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sender@refill.co.kr) Received: from zOA (unverified [211.235.237.59]) by 211-189-139-167.rev.krline.net (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 06:54:50 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: 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owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 15 7:40:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF0C37B404 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 07:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA92643FBF for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 07:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2FFeBNS026016 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 07:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2FFeBbt026015; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 07:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377DA37B401 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 07:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (port324.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk [212.242.113.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B83E43FDD for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 07:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simon@arthur.nitro.dk) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DBDF210BF82; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:36:08 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20030315153608.DBDF210BF82@arthur.nitro.dk> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:36:08 +0100 (CET) From: "Simon L.Nielsen" Reply-To: "Simon L.Nielsen" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/50023: [patch] rc.conf(5) does not document mountd_flags Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 50023 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] rc.conf(5) does not document mountd_flags >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 15 07:40:11 PST 2003 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Simon L. Nielsen >Release: FreeBSD 4.8-RC i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The option mountd_flags is not documented in rc.conf(5). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- mountd-rcconf-man.patch begins here --- Index: rc.conf.5 =================================================================== RCS file: /data/mirror/freebsd/ncvs/src/share/man/man5/rc.conf.5,v retrieving revision 1.177 diff -u -d -r1.177 rc.conf.5 --- rc.conf.5 28 Feb 2003 22:07:19 -0000 1.177 +++ rc.conf.5 15 Mar 2003 15:27:22 -0000 @@ -1059,6 +1059,13 @@ .Xr nfsd 8 daemon. It is commonly needed to run CFS without real NFS used. +.It Va mountd_flags +.Pq Vt str +If +.Va mountd_enable +is set to +.Dq Li YES , +these are the flags to pass to it. .It Va weak_mountd_authentication .Pq Vt bool If set to --- mountd-rcconf-man.patch ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 15 7:43: 0 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AC037B401 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 07:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D007A43F75 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 07:42:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysadmin@alexdupre.com) Received: from thunder.alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:42:11 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:42:55 +0100 From: Alex Dupre X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Reply-To: Alex Dupre X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <193153934956.20030315164255@alexdupre.com> To: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dsssl-docbook-modular In-Reply-To: <1816474760.20030313234518@alexdupre.com> References: <1816474760.20030313234518@alexdupre.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thursday, March 13, 2003, 11:45:18 PM, you wrote: AD> I've just finished porting the new 1.78 version, but it seems to have AD> the same problem of 1.77 :( I'm investigating if I can resolve this issue and fix it forever. Tell me "Good luck!" :) -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: Electricians made popcorn in the power supply To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 15 7:59:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C8237B404 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 07:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B75543F85 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 07:59:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2FFxSBG005217; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:59:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:58:33 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Alex Dupre Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dsssl-docbook-modular Message-Id: <20030315105833.0d6f36de.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <193153934956.20030315164255@alexdupre.com> References: <1816474760.20030313234518@alexdupre.com> <193153934956.20030315164255@alexdupre.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:42:55 +0100 Alex Dupre wrote: > Thursday, March 13, 2003, 11:45:18 PM, you wrote: > > AD> I've just finished porting the new 1.78 version, but it seems to > AD> have the same problem of 1.77 :( > > I'm investigating if I can resolve this issue and fix it forever. > Tell me "Good luck!" :) > Good Luck! You may wish to look around the PR base, I can't recall who did it but I know someone had submitted a patch that you can probly work with. I would have dug it up for you but I lack the time, sorry. -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 15 8: 0:32 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C7337B401 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC6743F75 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:00:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2FG0UNS029904 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:00:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h2FG0UJ4029903; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:00:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:00:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200303151600.h2FG0UJ4029903@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/50023: [patch] rc.conf(5) does not document mountd_flags Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/50023; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: "Simon L.Nielsen" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50023: [patch] rc.conf(5) does not document mountd_flags Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:57:29 -0500 On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:36:08 +0100 (CET) "Simon L.Nielsen" wrote: > Index: rc.conf.5 > =================================================================== > RCS file: /data/mirror/freebsd/ncvs/src/share/man/man5/rc.conf.5,v > retrieving revision 1.177 > diff -u -d -r1.177 rc.conf.5 > --- rc.conf.5 28 Feb 2003 22:07:19 -0000 1.177 > +++ rc.conf.5 15 Mar 2003 15:27:22 -0000 > @@ -1059,6 +1059,13 @@ > .Xr nfsd 8 > daemon. > It is commonly needed to run CFS without real NFS used. > +.It Va mountd_flags > +.Pq Vt str > +If > +.Va mountd_enable > +is set to > +.Dq Li YES , > +these are the flags to pass to it. > .It Va weak_mountd_authentication > .Pq Vt bool > If set to These are the flags which will be passed to it, what flags are availible? What exactly does this do for the user? These are the questions that a new user would ask. Is there any way we can explain this better? Thanks! -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 15 8:47:19 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B7537B401 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:47:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3282F43F93 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 08:47:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysadmin@alexdupre.com) Received: from thunder.alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:46:29 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:47:14 +0100 From: Alex Dupre X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Reply-To: Alex Dupre X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <137157793074.20030315174714@alexdupre.com> To: Tom Rhodes Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dsssl-docbook-modular In-Reply-To: <20030315105833.0d6f36de.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> References: <1816474760.20030313234518@alexdupre.com> <193153934956.20030315164255@alexdupre.com> <20030315105833.0d6f36de.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Saturday, March 15, 2003, 4:58:33 PM, you wrote: TR> Good Luck! You may wish to look around the PR base, I can't recall TR> who did it but I know someone had submitted a patch that you can TR> probly work with. Thanks...it seems I'm quite lucky, probably I found the issue...just tested on an article, now I try with the handbook. -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: Our POP server was kidnapped by a weasel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 15 9: 7:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F5237B401 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:07:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363A643F93 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:07:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2FH7eBG005403; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:07:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:06:45 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Alex Dupre Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dsssl-docbook-modular Message-Id: <20030315120645.5d3c6984.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <137157793074.20030315174714@alexdupre.com> References: <1816474760.20030313234518@alexdupre.com> <193153934956.20030315164255@alexdupre.com> <20030315105833.0d6f36de.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <137157793074.20030315174714@alexdupre.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:47:14 +0100 Alex Dupre wrote: > Saturday, March 15, 2003, 4:58:33 PM, you wrote: > > TR> Good Luck! You may wish to look around the PR base, I can't > TR> recall who did it but I know someone had submitted a patch that > TR> you can probly work with. > > Thanks...it seems I'm quite lucky, probably I found the issue...just > tested on an article, now I try with the handbook. > Why not just build everything? :) Sure, it will take some time, but hey, it will be a better test. -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 15 9:26:48 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3780F37B401 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:26:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4091143FA3 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:26:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysadmin@alexdupre.com) Received: from thunder.alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:25:59 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:26:42 +0100 From: Alex Dupre X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Reply-To: Alex Dupre X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <187160161920.20030315182642@alexdupre.com> To: Tom Rhodes Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dsssl-docbook-modular In-Reply-To: <20030315120645.5d3c6984.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> References: <1816474760.20030313234518@alexdupre.com> <193153934956.20030315164255@alexdupre.com> <20030315105833.0d6f36de.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <137157793074.20030315174714@alexdupre.com> <20030315120645.5d3c6984.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Saturday, March 15, 2003, 6:06:45 PM, you wrote: TR> Why not just build everything? :) Sure, it will take some time, TR> but hey, it will be a better test. I'm doing it right now :) But before that, it was simpler to test the patch on a small article (known to hang) and later on the handbook. Probably, after updating to 1.78, we should add some new tags to the docbook.css to enhance the html view. -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 15 9:26:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A42237B404 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:26:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.nckcn.com (ns2.nckcn.com [206.253.56.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9B443FAF for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:26:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davidc@huyett.com) Received: from 192.168.0.100 (ip-209-42-82-208.nckcn.com [209.42.82.208]) by ns2.nckcn.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h2FHHm231756 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:17:48 -0600 Received: from M12 ([192.168.0.80]) by 192.168.0.100 with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:27:19 -0600 Reply-To: From: "David Chavarria" To: Subject: Broken Link Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:27:43 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200303142105.52936.taxman@acd.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2003 17:27:19.0859 (UTC) FILETIME=[21CC8830:01C2EB18] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just following this "suggestion". David -----Original Message----- From: taxman [mailto:taxman@ACD.NET] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:06 PM To: davidc@huyett.com Subject: Re: Broken Link On Friday 14 March 2003 10:01 am, David Chavarria wrote: > This link is broken...The Linux+FreeBSD mini-HOWTO in the Articles Section > on the Documentation page. > > I think it should be http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Linux+FreeBSD.html yeah like I said,send this to doc@freebsd.org *not* freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 15 9:47: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4701837B401 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD6D43FAF for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:46:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysadmin@alexdupre.com) Received: from thunder.alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:46:12 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:46:57 +0100 From: Alex Dupre X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Reply-To: Alex Dupre X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <109161376557.20030315184657@alexdupre.com> To: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dsssl-docbook-modular In-Reply-To: <187160161920.20030315182642@alexdupre.com> References: <1816474760.20030313234518@alexdupre.com> <193153934956.20030315164255@alexdupre.com> <20030315105833.0d6f36de.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <137157793074.20030315174714@alexdupre.com> <20030315120645.5d3c6984.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <187160161920.20030315182642@alexdupre.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Done! Look at PR 50030. Test yourself, it should rock. -- Alex Dupre sysadmin@alexdupre.com http://www.alexdupre.com/ alex@sm.FreeBSD.org Today's excuse: Temporal anomaly To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 15 9:47:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACEF37B401 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:47:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C0643FA3 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:47:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mobile.pittgoth.com (acs-24-154-229-196.zoominternet.net [24.154.229.196]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id h2FHlnBG005508; Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:47:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:46:54 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Alex Dupre Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dsssl-docbook-modular Message-Id: <20030315124654.2a243751.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <109161376557.20030315184657@alexdupre.com> References: <1816474760.20030313234518@alexdupre.com> <193153934956.20030315164255@alexdupre.com> <20030315105833.0d6f36de.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <137157793074.20030315174714@alexdupre.com> <20030315120645.5d3c6984.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <187160161920.20030315182642@alexdupre.com> <109161376557.20030315184657@alexdupre.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:46:57 +0100 Alex Dupre wrote: > Done! Look at PR 50030. Test yourself, it should rock. > Definatly! 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Nielsen" Subject: Re: docs/50023: [patch] rc.conf(5) does not document mountd_flags Reply-To: "Simon L. Nielsen" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/50023; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Tom Rhodes Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/50023: [patch] rc.conf(5) does not document mountd_flags Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:56:30 +0100 --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003.03.15 10:57:29 -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 16:36:08 +0100 (CET) > "Simon L.Nielsen" wrote: >=20 > > Index: rc.conf.5 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > RCS file: /data/mirror/freebsd/ncvs/src/share/man/man5/rc.conf.5,v > > retrieving revision 1.177 > > diff -u -d -r1.177 rc.conf.5 > > --- rc.conf.5 28 Feb 2003 22:07:19 -0000 1.177 > > +++ rc.conf.5 15 Mar 2003 15:27:22 -0000 > > @@ -1059,6 +1059,13 @@ > > .Xr nfsd 8 > > daemon. > > It is commonly needed to run CFS without real NFS used. > > +.It Va mountd_flags > > +.Pq Vt str > > +If > > +.Va mountd_enable > > +is set to > > +.Dq Li YES , > > +these are the flags to pass to it. > > .It Va weak_mountd_authentication > > .Pq Vt bool > > If set to > These are the flags which will be passed to it, what flags are > availible? What exactly does this do for the user? These are the > questions that a new user would ask. Is there any way we can > explain this better? I must admit I just did a copy/paste from one of the other _flags options =66rom the manpage (rwhod_flags i think). I don't really think that explaing anyting about which flags can be set to mountd would really help since it would just duplicate parts of mountd(8) and no options are really important to be specially emphasized. Thinking a bit more about it the "it" in the mountd_flags description should be replaced with "mountd(8)" to make it more clear where to find more information. I can quickly make a new patch with this included if you prefer that. Looking some more at the manpage it appears there the different _flags options which should basicaly do the same have rather different wording and level of detail. The way syslod_flags is described seems to bee most common. syslogd_flags (str) If syslogd_enable is set to ``YES'', these are the flags to pass to syslogd(8). rwhod_flags (str) If rwhod_enable is set to ``YES'', these are the fla= gs to pass to it. amd_flags (str) If amd_enable is set to ``YES'', these are the flags= to pass to it. See the amd(8) manpage for more information. allscreens_flags (str) If set, vidcontrol(1) is run with these options for each of the virtual terminals (/dev/ttyv*). For example, ``-m on'' will enable the mouse pointer on all virtual ter= mi- nals if moused_enable is set to ``YES''. ipmon_flags (str) Set to ``-Ds'' by default. This variable contains flags passed to the ipmon(8) program. Another typical exa= m- ple would be ``-D /var/log/ipflog'' to have ipmon(8) log directly to a file bypassing syslogd(8). Make sure to adj= ust /etc/newsyslog.conf in such case like this: /var/log/ipflog 640 10 100 * Z /var/run/ipmon.pid As I looked through the rc.conf(5) i also noticed that some variabels document their default value where others don't and it does not seems to be done consistently. I think it would be a good idea to add the default value to all the variabels for rc.conf. I would be happy to do it if a consistent form (perhaps like all variabels document a type) can be found and other people think it would be a good idea. Doing a quick greping/diffing of defaults/rc.conf and rc.conf(5) several other variabels are not documented. I guess it would be preferable to have them documented also...? I just noticed the missing mountd_flags by chance since I was adding an option to mountd (to force binding to a specific port)... --=20 Simon L. 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