From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 22:47:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB7D37B405 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 22:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web13505.mail.yahoo.com (web13505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D86D43FBD for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 22:47:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dyeske@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030601054752.80675.qmail@web13505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.114.30.244] by web13505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2003 22:47:52 PDT Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 22:47:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David Yeske To: current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: jake@freebsd.org cc: bde@freebsd.org Subject: BOOTP_NFSV3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 05:47:55 -0000 I have a suggestion to deprecate the BOOTP_NFSV3 option, and I wanted to get some feedback. If NFS_ROOT and BOOTP_NFSV3 are defined, then it is a noop in sys/i386/i386/locore.s? If NFS_ROOT is defined and BOOTP_NFSV3 is undefined then it copies in a nfs_diskless structure in sys/i386/i386/locore.s? Is this still needed? If BOOTP_NFSV3 is defined in sys/nfsclient/bootp_subr.c, then it will attempt a nfsv3 mount and then fall back to a nfsv2 mount. Should that eventually be the default behavior? Regards, David Yeske __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Please visit our other websites at: Oneplace.com www.oneplace.com SermonSearch.com www.sermonsearch.com TheFish.com www.thefish.com ____________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 13:20:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5743137B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A77443F3F for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@khachikyan.de) Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19MZJG-0001MT-00 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:20:06 +0200 Received: from [217.235.134.212] (helo=workstation) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 19MZJG-0001nv-00 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:20:06 +0200 Message-ID: <003701c3287b$32e32020$0700010a@workstation> From: "Vahe Khachikyan" To: "FreeBSD Hackers" Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:20:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: FreeBSD L10N for Armenian language. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 20:20:08 -0000 Hi, I am not sure whether this is the correct list for such a question... Please let me know if it is not. I would like to make a FreeBSD Localization for Armenian. I've already some small parts ready like: syscons fonts (8x16 ready, 8x8 is in work , 8x14 coming soon) and keyboard mapping file. There are few questions and I will appreciated any kind of help. I've found the manual for mklocale, it is an utility for generating LC_CTYPE files. There are also a pair of other files included for each language LC_COLLATE etc. I Have no clue what kind of format those files have, and what is the function of those files. Any kind of information is welcome. The next question is where the messages for libc, and other libraries reside and how should they be localized. And probably the last question in this mail :-) where and how should I submit the things when they are ready. P.S. Please let me know if there is a better mailing list for L10N related things. Thanks in advance for your answers. Kind regards -- Vahe Khachikyan --- From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 13:28:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7740437B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A6D43F3F for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:28:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from norbert@hsh-radio.net) Received: from fwd10.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19MZR7-0005sw-03; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:28:13 +0200 Received: from main (520031110697-0001@[80.129.249.9]) by fmrl10.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19MZQo-078zmyC; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:27:54 +0200 From: "Norbert Borchers" To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:27:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3EDA7DE9.16981.687403@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a, DE v4.02 R1a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body X-Sender: 520031110697-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: HSH: update X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: norbert@hsh-radio.net List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 20:28:15 -0000 hi! anbei die letzte info. gru=DF norbert ------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht / Forwarded message ------- Von: "Norbert Borchers" An: BCC: Datum: Sat, 31 May 2003 10:13:02 +0100 Betreff: HSH: update Antwort an: norbert@hsh-radio.net Priorit=E4t: normal Moin! Die aktuelle Sendung ist jetzt online. Au=DFerdem habe ich es endlich geschafft den Member-Bereich zu aktualisieren (u.a. mit dem Gast-DJ Mix von DJ Torso). Das aktuelle Passwort lautet: jy943f Enjoy Norbert ---------------------------------------------------------- Norbert Borchers H.S.H. - House Sound of Hamburg Radio- & Club-DJ, Producer, writer of house-reviews norbert@hsh-radio.net http://www.hsh-radio.net ---------------------------------------------------------- --- Ende der weitergeleiteten Nachricht / End of forwarded message --- ---------------------------------------------------------- Norbert Borchers H.S.H. - House Sound of Hamburg Radio- & Club-DJ, Producer, writer of house-reviews norbert@hsh-radio.net http://www.hsh-radio.net ---------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 17:53:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD7437B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748A943F75 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:53:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h520qtVm082557; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h520qtij082556; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:52:55 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Thorsten Futrega Message-ID: <20030602005255.GA82304@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Thorsten Futrega , hackers@freebsd.org References: <20030529172919.GA17746@lenny.anarcat.ath.cx> <20030529174258.58950.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030529174258.58950.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! Major commits in the tree coming soon X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:53:05 -0000 On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 06:42:58PM +0100, Thorsten Futrega wrote: > really tired of dealing with O'Brien ^^^^^^^ Thanks for getting the spelling right, too many people don't. From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 18:06:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46EE37B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7838F43F75 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5216kVm082775 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:06:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5216kmZ082774 for hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:06:46 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030602010646.GB82304@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , hackers@freebsd.org References: <20030527190822.8E08137B401@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030527190822.8E08137B401@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Subject: Broadcom 44xx (Re: Rrrrrr.....) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 01:06:50 -0000 On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 12:08:22PM -0700, Bill Paul wrote: > *NO*, the 44xx chips are *NOT* the same as the 57xx chips. The 57xx > devices are 10/100/1000. The 44xx are 10/100 *ONLY*. Where is the 44xx showing up? From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 18:12:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0988037B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714B143F85 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:12:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h521CKVm082853; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h521CHtQ082852; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:12:17 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Will Andrews Message-ID: <20030602011217.GC82304@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030526041513.GP81874@procyon.firepipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030526041513.GP81874@procyon.firepipe.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best serial console server construction method? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 01:12:30 -0000 On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 09:15:13PM -0700, Will Andrews wrote: > serial ports. How am I going to do that cheaply? Well, N-port > serial cards (where N is >= 4) cost a few hundred dollars from > everywhere I could see (granted, they're niche items and are > accordingly priced). I've eBay'ed both a Comtrol RocketPort PCI 8-port for $26 and a 16-port for $28. Non-Digi used devices can be had pretty cheaply. > two 4-port USB hubs and get 8 single-port serial adapters. So > far as I can tell, the total cost would be approximately: > > 8 x USB->RS232 DB9 Male @ $8/ea = $64 Where did you find these so cheap? They are $30-$40 at Fry's. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 20:33:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C5737B401 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from persephone.internetconnection.net (d8a999e8.dmvnoc.com [216.169.153.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E68EA43FB1 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:33:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mainbionewslist-return-@bcs-hq.com) Received: (qmail 2554 invoked by uid 119); 1 Jun 2003 15:10:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact mainbionewslist-help@bcs-hq.com Date: 1 Jun 2003 15:10:42 -0000 Message-ID: <1054480242.2553.ezmlm@bcs-hq.com> From: mainbionewslist-help@bcs-hq.com To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: responder for mainbionewslist@bcs-hq.com Received: (qmail 2550 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2003 15:10:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pollux) (216.169.144.61) by persephone with SMTP; 1 Jun 2003 15:10:41 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by pollux with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 10:03:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: confirm subscribe to mainbionewslist@bcs-hq.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mainbionewslist-sc.1054480242.ohiojhehbgahciooepao-freebsd-hackers=freebsd.org@bcs-hq.com List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 03:33:48 -0000 Hi! 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Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2550 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2003 15:10:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pollux) (216.169.144.61) by persephone with SMTP; 1 Jun 2003 15:10:41 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by pollux with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 10:03:42 -0400 From: To: Subject: Subscribe to the Bio Newsletter Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 10:03:42 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2003 14:03:42.0562 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BF17420:01C32846] From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 20:55:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519A737B401; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.relrs.com.br (patras.procergs.com.br [200.189.130.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1696343F75; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:55:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paa01375@ig.com.br) Received: from eta.ig.com.br (cm-net-poa-C8B02EC0.brdterra.com.br [200.176.46.192]) by mx.relrs.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78FD1BB29D; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:54:45 -0300 (BRT) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20030602005202.00a51ec0@pop.ig.com.br> X-Sender: paa01375@pop.ig.com.br (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:52:38 -0300 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: milo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: MAXLOGNAME > 17 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 03:55:19 -0000 Hi, in my service I have one box linux runing openldap with five thousand accounts. Many servers linux do authentication in this box and everything is fine. We also use box freebsd 4, however without this feature because not works nss_ldap in this version. Well, whith the begin of the 5.1, a could see this working (thanks Vidrine). My problem is size of username, that can be bigger than seventeen caracteres. The define MAXLOGNAME in /usr/include/sys/param.h and UT_NAMESIZE in /usr/include/utmp.h show me this. I think that change this value can resolv. After one cvsup of current, my login and syslogd were compiled again but not works. Then I did one attach with gdb in login and I watched that mistake was in setlogin(username) in the child process. ----- May 30 18:51:57 ws-tor-0012 login: setlogin(procergs-carlos-louzada): Invalid argument - exiting ----- If this is true, I need recompile the kernel and libc (make world) with the new values? What can I do in this case? ps. About 5.1-beta2, my console is full of warnings: -------------- May 30 17:17:51 ws-tor-0012 kernel: Sleeping on "stopevent" with the following non-sleepa blelocks held: May 30 17:17:51 ws-tor-0012 kernel: exclusive sleep mutex sigacts r = 0 (0xc42c4aa8) lock ed @ /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_trap.c:248 May 30 17:17:51 ws-tor-0012 kernel: lock order reversal May 30 17:17:51 ws-tor-0012 kernel: 1st 0xc42c4aa8 sigacts (sigacts) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/ subr_trap.c:248 May 30 17:17:51 ws-tor-0012 kernel: 2nd 0xc4187608 process lock (process lock) @ /usr/src /sys/kern/kern_synch.c:312 May 30 17:17:51 ws-tor-0012 kernel: Stack backtrace: May 30 17:17:59 ws-tor-0012 kernel: Sleeping on "stopevent" with the following non-sleepa blelocks held: May 30 17:17:59 ws-tor-0012 kernel: exclusive sleep mutex sigacts r = 0 (0xc42d4aa8) lock ed @ /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_trap.c:248 -------------- -- milo From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 21:41:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECE337B401; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from praetor.linc-it.com (hardtime.linuxman.net [66.147.26.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F3443F93; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mortis.over-yonder.net (adsl-156-172-64.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.172.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by praetor.linc-it.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7AF15482; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:41:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mortis.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 1A45220F12; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:41:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:41:19 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: milo Message-ID: <20030602044119.GR61246@over-yonder.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030602005202.00a51ec0@pop.ig.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030602005202.00a51ec0@pop.ig.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i-fullermd.1 X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MAXLOGNAME > 17 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 04:41:35 -0000 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:52:38AM -0300 I heard the voice of milo, and lo! it spake thus: > > I think that change this value can resolv. After one cvsup of current, > my login and syslogd were compiled again but not works. Then I did one > attach with gdb in login and I watched that mistake was in > setlogin(username) in the child process. Yes, you can. Just change the values, then do your buildworld/buildkernel etc. You may also need to recompile some ports that mess with usernames. I used to do this on 2.2.x to get 16-char usernames, and had to rebuild things like sshd to handle it ('course, with ssh in base now, that's one less). There were occasional weirdnesses (wtmp got screwy sometimes, never tracked it down), but overall it worked fine. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 23:33:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E9637B409; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1083A43F75; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 23:33:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h526XDgD028710; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:03:14 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: obrien@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:03:12 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20030527190822.8E08137B401@hub.freebsd.org> <20030602010646.GB82304@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20030602010646.GB82304@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200306021603.12652.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -1.5 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: Re: Broadcom 44xx (Re: Rrrrrr.....) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:33:21 -0000 On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:36, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 12:08:22PM -0700, Bill Paul wrote: > > *NO*, the 44xx chips are *NOT* the same as the 57xx chips. The 57xx > > devices are 10/100/1000. The 44xx are 10/100 *ONLY*. > > Where is the 44xx showing up? A lot of newer laptops have it in them (Dell's are one in particular I am aware of) -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5 From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 00:47:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A7237B404 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milla.ask33.net (milla.ask33.net [217.197.166.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F15E43FA3 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@milla.ask33.net) Received: by milla.ask33.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 618B13ABB47; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 09:53:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 09:53:28 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030602075328.GV45118@garage.freebsd.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aPbDRKcb5+hBUoJi" Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl/jules.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Subject: Locking, locking... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:47:56 -0000 --aPbDRKcb5+hBUoJi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello hackers... I need advice how to handle with one locking problem. For example I got some list with some values. This list could be modified by any process. I want to get values from this list and copy them to allocated table. But how to count number of needed fields? mtx_lock(&mtx_list_lock); n =3D 0; SLIST_FOREACH(elem, &list_head, l_next) { n++; } mtx_unlock(&mtx_list_lock); tab =3D malloc(n * sizeof(something), M_TEMP, M_WAITOK); mtx_lock(&mtx_list_lock); [...] As we all knew size of list could be changed when we were in malloc(). Of course we could check list size again after malloc() and mtx_lock(), but what to do when it was changed? Recall memory allocation? If size of this list depends on every process there is a chance to DoS such piece of code. Return an error? Not always it is possible. IMHO there should be malloc() version that could be called under lock. Malloc() M_NOWAIT could be called in such scenario? How do you handle with situations like this? Thanks! --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek pawel@dawidek.net UNIX Systems Programmer/Administrator http://garage.freebsd.pl Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! http://cerber.sourceforge.net --aPbDRKcb5+hBUoJi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBPtsCeD/PhmMH/Mf1AQEilwP+N/Umn+2e4+VFSQisBa6hKpIXfyPFFvoY xnBoJuzBp+clBVn7cgTPHy1TfhWZF4caNcFBcjQLHENvdI/G45pFyXP3Xoe3BSrO bXSTxevhzz7ISBxmjmh20acI3RNY3BdRNuKuXNN4Kob5TdMb1Lp72t3O/txEQCDf DweTa/Buv1g= =RcVv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aPbDRKcb5+hBUoJi-- From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 01:32:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C382937B404 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 01:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from momotombo.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (momotombo.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.136.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BFC43FAF for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 01:32:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfischer@TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) Received: from kilauea.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (kilauea.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.137.39]) (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6/TechFak/2003/04/16/pk) with ESMTP id h528Wim18127; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:32:44 +0200 (MEST) From: Bjoern Fischer Received: (from bfischer@localhost)h528Wip08521; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:32:44 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:32:44 +0200 To: Andy Farkas , hackers@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030602083244.GA8471@kilauea.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> References: <20030531145838.GA1114@frolic.no-support.loc> <20030602092327.G61559-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20030602092327.G61559-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Re: swapping over nfs might be broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:32:51 -0000 Hello Andy, > Are you saying that all the clients share the one swapfile? What happens > when 2 clients start swapping at the same time? good lord, no. The default swap file ist ".swap" (or something like that). Bj=F6rn --=20 #!/bin/sh - set - `type $0` 'tr "[a-zA-Z]" "[n-za-mN-ZA-M]"';while [ "$2" !=3D "" ];do \ shift;done; echo 'frq -a -rc '`echo "$0"| $1 `'>$UBZR/.`rpub signature|'`\ echo $1|$1`'`;rpub "Jr ner fvtangher bs obet. Erfvfgnapr vf shgvyr!"'|$1|sh From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 01:55:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE5F37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 01:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from momotombo.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (momotombo.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.136.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CC843F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 01:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfischer@TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) Received: from kilauea.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (kilauea.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.137.39]) (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6/TechFak/2003/04/16/pk) with ESMTP id h528tOm18687; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:55:24 +0200 (MEST) From: Bjoern Fischer Received: (from bfischer@localhost)h528tOx08654; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:55:24 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:55:24 +0200 To: Andy Farkas , hackers@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030602085524.GB8471@kilauea.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> References: <20030531145838.GA1114@frolic.no-support.loc> <20030602092327.G61559-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> <20030602083244.GA8471@kilauea.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20030602083244.GA8471@kilauea.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Re: swapping over nfs might be broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:55:29 -0000 Hello, > > Are you saying that all the clients share the one swapfile? What happens > > when 2 clients start swapping at the same time? >=20 > good lord, no. The default swap file ist ".swap" (or > something like that). forgot to mention that the path transmitted by DHCP and ".s= wap" are concatenated. So the full path of the swapfile is /exports/swap/.swap (or "/exports/swap/swap."; I can't tell until I have access to that machine again.) Bj=F6rn --=20 #!/bin/sh - set - `type $0` 'tr "[a-zA-Z]" "[n-za-mN-ZA-M]"';while [ "$2" !=3D "" ];do \ shift;done; echo 'frq -a -rc '`echo "$0"| $1 `'>$UBZR/.`rpub signature|'`\ echo $1|$1`'`;rpub "Jr ner fvtangher bs obet. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:25:38 -0000 > On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 12:08:22PM -0700, Bill Paul wrote: > > *NO*, the 44xx chips are *NOT* the same as the 57xx chips. The 57xx > > devices are 10/100/1000. The 44xx are 10/100 *ONLY*. > > Where is the 44xx showing up? I've got one in my new Acer 800Cli laptop (try www.acer.co.uk as Warner said he couldn't find it on the main site). It's Centrino based with 5+hrs of battery life. The 44xx seem to be big SoC type devices with the possibility that NIC, USB, Modem, HomePNA, kitchen sink all exist on the same chip. I've got all of the setup side of the driver done (e.g. PHY and MAC tickling) and now have to get my head around bus_dma so I can start sending packets out of it. Duncan From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 02:47:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF4537B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pat.living-media.co.uk (pat.living-media.co.uk [62.24.176.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E6F43F85 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rachael@living-media.com) Received: from AspEmail ([62.24.176.30]) by pat.living-media.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h528ugxb028170 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 09:56:42 +0100 Message-Id: <200306020856.h528ugxb028170@pat.living-media.co.uk> From: "SignUpWeb MailShot" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 10:51:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Important News from SignUp X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rachael@living-media.com List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:47:30 -0000 Dear CIO Pull-Henning Kamp, Re: Important News from SignUp The first Press Release is from the Department for Work and Pensions. It details a pioneering project established by the Government that will test new ways of helping sick workers keep their jobs. Further information can be obtained by calling the free phone number 07659 108883. In the second article, Health and Safety Minister Nick Brown, urges organizations that use hazardous chemicals to look at ways of preventing ill health. He was speaking at the launch of the European Week for Safety and Health Action Pack. Requests for action packs can be made on the website http://www.hse.gov.uk/euroweek, or by calling 0800 0850050 / 08701 545500. Kind regards, The SignUp Team Reference:JRRPpres Date: 13 March 2003 DEPARTMENT FOR WORK AND PENSIONS: PIONEERING PROJECT COULD STOP SICK WORKERS LOSING THEIR JOBS A cutting edge project to test new ways of helping sick workers keep their jobs is being launched by the Government. The research project could provide valuable information to enable people to get back to work quickly without losing their current jobs and help businesses retain skilled and experienced workers. The Job Retention and Rehabilitation Pilot (JRRP), funded by the Department for Work and Pensions in partnership with the Department of Health, is set to start on 1 April. It will examine the barriers preventing people from a healthy return to work after sick absence and try to find ways of overcoming them. DWP Work Minister Nick Brown said: Every week people lose their job because of health problems. They can then be out of work and relying on benefits for years a waste of both human and taxpayers resources. This cutting edge initiative could prove a real boost to workers and bosses across the U.K. Evidence shows that the earlier people off work because of sickness receive help, the better their chance of returning to their job. The research project will test how extra health and workplace support can help people get well again, return to work and keep their jobs. We will of course need to carefully evaluate the results to see how successful the different pilot models have been. Health Minister David Lammy said Existing research does not tell us if extra help at work or through the health service will be effective in keeping people in their jobs. It makes sense to carry out new research so that we can see what works and what doesnt. Involving 7,500 selected volunteers, the JRRP will run for two years in six pilot areas across the country: Greater Glasgow, Teesside, Tyneside, Birmingham, Sheffield and West Kent. The innovative project will be open to eligible employed and self-employed volunteers who have been off work for between 6 and 26 weeks. External providers will deliver the pilot under contract. Pilot service providers will publicise the research project in each area and encourage volunteers, working with health professionals and employers. For more information phone the free number 07659 108883. NOTES TO EDITORS: 1. People interested in volunteering in the pilot areas will be asked to contact a national contact centre and if eligible they will be assigned to specific research groups. One group will deal with problems in the workplace that may have contributed to the persons ill health. Another group will offer extra rehabilitation health care services and advice and a third group will provide a combination of health care and work-based support. There will also be a fourth group, a control group. Participants in all four groups will still have access to existing services. 2. An evaluation report will be produced at the end of the pilot in autumn 2005 and the findings will contribute to shaping future policy. 3. The pilot will operate under the following brand names: HealthyReturn (Greater Glasgow) WorkCare (Sheffield, Birmingham and West Kent) Routeback (Tyneside and Teesside). 4. The Job Retention and Rehabilitation Pilot is funded by the Department for Work and Pensions in partnership with the Department of Health and supported by the Scottish Executive and the Health and Safety Executive. CONTACT DETAILS: Press Office: 0207 238 0866 or 0207 238 0762 Out of hours: 07659 108883 Public enquiries: 020 7712 2171 Website: www.dwp.gov.uk -------------------------------------------- E079:03 19 May 2003 MINISTER URGES ACTION TO MANAGE HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS AT WORK Today Health and Safety Minister Nick Brown urged organisations that use hazardous chemicals to look at ways of preventing ill health in the workplace, including cancers, respiratory diseases and skin diseases. The Minister visited the Health and Safety Executives (HSE) launch of the European Week for Safety and Health Action Pack, at its stand at the Safety and Health EXPO in Birmingham on Monday 19 May. The free action pack includes a 12 page European Week Newsletter, a mini CD ROM, stickers, fact sheets, leaflets and a poster, focusing on the theme of this years week, Dangerous Substances, which begins on 13 October. It is designed to help organisations that use potentially harmful chemicals plan an initiative to protect workers health. Mr Brown said: This initiative deserves widespread support throughout the UK. The European Week for Health and Safety is an opportunity for employers, employees and their representatives to look at ways of improving their work environment. The misuse of dangerous substances and chemicals at work can result in debilitating ill health or even cause death. This is not just an issue for large firms. Potentially dangerous substances are used by many of us in cleaning, hairdressing and motor vehicle repair businesses to name just a few. With the right prevention and control measures, most of the ill health effects can be reduced or eliminated. An estimated 6,000 people die from cancer due to occupational causes every year and an estimated 66,000 people suffer from new or existing skin diseases caused by work - around two thirds have dermatitis or eczema. In addition 7,000 new cases of asthma are occupationally caused or have work as a significant contributing factor, every year with an estimated cost over the next 10 years of between £579 million and £1,159 million. John Thompson, head of HSEs chemicals policy division, said: All this is preventable. The majority of the 1.3 million companies covered by specific chemical legislation are small and medium sized enterprises. Many of these dont think of themselves as using chemicals. They see them simply as branded products but they can also be harmful chemicals. Others only partially understand what they need to do to protect their employees and other people from risks from the use of chemicals. Employers, workers and stakeholders can use the week to start to make an impact. HSE is encouraging participants of the European Safety and Health Week to organise campaigns focusing on the weeks theme of dangerous substances, and send feedback to HSE. Independent evaluation of last years European Week, which focused on stress, has revealed that more than half the participants surveyed made specific changes to working practices as a result of the week. It is estimated that the message reached 6.28 million employees and there was a 78 per cent increase in the number of organisations sending for action packs. Requests for action packs can be made on 0800 0850050 or at http:www.hse.gov.uk/euroweek Notes to Editors: 1. This year's Safety & Health Expo 2003 runs from 19-22 May at the NEC, Birmingham and takes place alongside the RoSPA Congress. HSE's stand is Q40, Hall 12, and the European Agency for Safety and Health at Work stand is R30, Hall 12. 2. The European Week has taken place six times 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001 and 2002. HSE has organised seven Health and Safety Weeks including the six European Weeks. The Week is part of a wider European initiative organised by the European Agency for Safety and Health. 3. To promote the week in the UK, HSE has formed a European Group whose members include: TUC, CBI, The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA), the Institution of Occupational Safety and Health (IOSH), BackCare, British Safety Council, Health and Safety Executive of Northern Ireland, Health Education Board for Scotland, National Assembly for Wales, Departments of Health, Education and Skills, Work and Pensions, European Week 2001, membership was extended to include the Health and Safety Authority of Ireland, an Environmental Health Officer representing local authorities and representatives of the banking and insurance sectors. Public Enquiries: Call HSE's InfoLine, tel: 08701 545500, or write to: HSE Information Services, Caerphilly Business Park, Caerphilly CF83 3GG. Press Enquiries: Journalists only: Jan Kemal 020 7717 6902, Out of hours 020 7928 8382 For press review copies telephone 020 7717 6917. HSE information and press releases can be accessed on the Internet: http://www.hse.gov.uk/ (If clicking doesn't work, 'Cut' and 'Paste' the line above into your Web browser's address bar.) From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 02:48:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0DE37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBAB943F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:48:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 2 Jun 2003 10:48:43 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:48:40 +0100 From: David Malone To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek Message-ID: <20030602094839.GA65261@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20030602075328.GV45118@garage.freebsd.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030602075328.GV45118@garage.freebsd.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Locking, locking... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:48:48 -0000 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:53:28AM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > As we all knew size of list could be changed when we were in malloc(). > Of course we could check list size again after malloc() and mtx_lock(), > but what to do when it was changed? Recall memory allocation? By recall, do you mean free the memory you have allocated and begin the procedure again? Of course, you only have to do this when the list has got longer. > If size of this list depends on every process there is a chance to DoS > such piece of code. Return an error? Not always it is possible. I'm not sure the DoS potential is so bad. To force restarts the attacker needs to either keep increasing the length of the list or increase and decrease it repeatedle. If they can keep increasing it, then there is a DoS in terms of memory allocation anyway. If they increase and decrease it, there should be 50-50 chance of the allocation working each time. Maybe I've missed something though. David. From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 04:14:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A359937B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 04:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pm.star.spb.ru (mail-pm.star.spb.ru [217.195.82.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328FC43F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 04:14:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nkritsky@internethelp.ru) Received: from pink.star.spb.ru ([217.195.82.10]) by mail-pm.star.spb.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h52BEpPW026223 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:14:51 +0400 (MSD) Received: from IBMKA ([217.195.82.7]) by pink.star.spb.ru with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id K74KP4PP; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:14:51 +0400 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:14:07 +0400 From: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <163319560804.20030602151407@internethelp.ru> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Sender: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: What RFCs are supported by FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:14:53 -0000 Hello, my fellow hackers. Does anybody know, which RFCs are followed by FreeBSD's core network drivers (like IP,TCP,routing,UDP,ICMP drivers)? I have tried find /usr/src/sys/ -name *.c -or -name '*.h' -exec grep -l -i rfc {} \;|tee rfcs.kern and sysctl -a |grep -i rfc It gave me some info, but I still wonder, is there more reliable method? Please cc me in your reply because I am not subscibed to this list (yet ;) ). Thanks for any help. ;------------------------------------------- ; NKritsky ; mailto:nkritsky@internethelp.ru From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 04:53:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C693A37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 04:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hannibal.servitor.co.uk (hannibal.servitor.co.uk [195.188.15.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF0843F85 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 04:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@hannibal.servitor.co.uk) Received: from paul by hannibal.servitor.co.uk with local (Exim 4.14) id 19Mnt2-000HMX-TO; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:54:00 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:54:00 +0100 From: Paul Robinson To: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" Message-ID: <20030602115400.GN13771@iconoplex.co.uk> References: <163319560804.20030602151407@internethelp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <163319560804.20030602151407@internethelp.ru> Sender: Paul Robinson cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What RFCs are supported by FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:53:57 -0000 On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 03:14:07PM +0400, Nickolay A. Kritsky wrote: > Hello, my fellow hackers. > > Does anybody know, which RFCs are followed by FreeBSD's core network > drivers (like IP,TCP,routing,UDP,ICMP drivers)? Everything that is current and industry standard is my well-educated and thought-about guess. There are some relatively newer ones that maybe haven't worked their way in yet, and quite a few higher level ones (DIAMETER as opposed to RADIUS) that don't belong in FreeBSD. I suppose it depends on why you want to know... Put it this way - it's not a coincidence that Windows NT had a very similar stack to FreeBSD when version 4 was released way back when, and it still has some *remarkable* similarities, even now in Windows 2003 Server... -- Paul Robinson From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 05:51:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A875337B404 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 05:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pm.star.spb.ru (mail-pm.star.spb.ru [217.195.82.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690E843F85 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 05:51:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nkritsky@internethelp.ru) Received: from pink.star.spb.ru ([217.195.82.10]) by mail-pm.star.spb.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h52CpjPW057555; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:51:47 +0400 (MSD) Received: from IBMKA ([217.195.82.7]) by pink.star.spb.ru with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id K74KP4ZR; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:51:45 +0400 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:51:01 +0400 From: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <199325375375.20030602165101@internethelp.ru> To: Paul Robinson In-reply-To: <20030602115400.GN13771@iconoplex.co.uk> References: <163319560804.20030602151407@internethelp.ru> <20030602115400.GN13771@iconoplex.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: What RFCs are supported by FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:51:51 -0000 Hello Paul, thanks for answer. Monday, June 02, 2003, 3:54:00 PM, you wrote: >> Does anybody know, which RFCs are followed by FreeBSD's core network >> drivers (like IP,TCP,routing,UDP,ICMP drivers)? PR> Everything that is current and industry standard is my well-educated and PR> thought-about guess. Do you mean, that every network-related RFC w/ status "STANDARD" and not "OBSOLETED BY..." is supported? PR> I suppose it depends on why PR> you want to know... Well, right now I was trying to understand if RFC2003 (IP-ENCAP) is supported. ;------------------------------------------- ; NKritsky ; mailto:nkritsky@internethelp.ru From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 06:02:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B5637B401; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 06:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (external.osdn.org.ua [212.40.34.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DED43F93; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 06:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (never@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h52D2nsB022229; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:02:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: (from never@localhost) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) id h52D2mXg022226; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:02:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from never) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:02:48 +0300 From: Alexandr Kovalenko To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030602130248.GA21429@nevermind.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: trimming of chroot jail path in df(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 13:02:54 -0000 [Please Cc: me] I've found module jailfsstat: http://garage.freebsd.pl/jailfsstat.tgz which task is that process in jail can see only file systems mounted inside of jail. It works somehow incorrect and I would like to ask you for an URL of FreeBSD's vfs implementation documentation. -- NEVE-RIPE, will build world for food Ukrainian FreeBSD User Group http://uafug.org.ua/ From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 06:03:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D59437B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 06:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from herculanum.int-evry.fr (herculanum.int-evry.fr [157.159.11.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6398043F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 06:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@ipv6-5.int-evry.fr) Received: from sparte.int-evry.fr (spartebis.int-evry.fr [157.159.10.20]) by herculanum.int-evry.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E7433F9E; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:59:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alpes.int-evry.fr (alpes.int-evry.fr [157.159.10.19]) by spartebis.int-evry.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 940C83F435; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:02:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sparte.int-evry.fr ([157.159.10.11]) by alpes.int-evry.fr (SAVSMTP 3.0.0.44) with SMTP id M2003060214585921987 ; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 14:59:04 +0200 Received: from ipv6-5.int-evry.fr (ipv6-5.int-evry.fr [157.159.100.78]) by sparte.int-evry.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C613F438; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:02:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jb by ipv6-5.int-evry.fr with local (Exim id 19Mot3-000I7i-00; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 14:58:05 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:58:05 +0200 From: Julien Bournelle To: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" Message-ID: <20030602125805.GE68740@ipv6-5.int-evry.fr> References: <163319560804.20030602151407@internethelp.ru> <20030602115400.GN13771@iconoplex.co.uk> <199325375375.20030602165101@internethelp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <199325375375.20030602165101@internethelp.ru> Sender: Julien Bournelle cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What RFCs are supported by FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 13:03:14 -0000 > Well, right now I was trying to understand if RFC2003 (IP-ENCAP) is > supported. IP-Encapsulation is supported by using gif interface. -- julien.bournelle at int-evry.fr From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 07:22:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D05237B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9144F43FB1 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8EC49A80F; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 00:22:19 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763495430 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 00:22:19 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 00:22:19 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030603001755.S68271-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Retrieving disk geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 14:22:20 -0000 Hi, Under FreeBSD 4.x the ioctl DIOCGDINFO could be used to retrieve the number of cylinders, heads and sectors of a drive. This could be called on /dev/ad0 for example. Under FreeBSD 5 it seems to produce "Inappropriate ioctl for device" unless you call it on an individual partition (/dev/ad0s1a for example). Is there a way around this? Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 07:23:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F3237B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from timmy.inbox.lv (timmy.inbox.lv [81.94.227.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CCF943FAF for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:22:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmn-@inbox.lv) Received: (qmail 17431 invoked by uid 1005); 2 Jun 2003 14:22:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO spampd.localdomain) (10.0.1.7) by 10.0.1.7 with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 14:22:39 -0000 Received: from 81.198.18.250 ( [81.198.18.250]) as user dmn-@10.0.1.1 by www2.inbox.lv with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:22:36 +0300 Message-ID: <1054563756.3edb5dac72e83@www2.inbox.lv> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:22:36 +0300 From: =?windows-1252?B?xeLj5e3o6SDK8+Tr4A==?= To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1257 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: inbox.lv 4.0 Subject: X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 14:23:00 -0000 Dmn-@inbox.lv --- This message contains no viruses. Guaranteed by Kaspersky Anti-Virus. www.antivirus.lv From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 07:44:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F7137B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BC443F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:44:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h52EicnA011068; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:44:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Andrew From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 03 Jun 2003 00:22:19 +1000." <20030603001755.S68271-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:44:38 +0200 Message-ID: <11067.1054565078@critter.freebsd.dk> cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Retrieving disk geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 14:44:51 -0000 In message <20030603001755.S68271-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au>, Andrew writes: >Hi, > >Under FreeBSD 4.x the ioctl DIOCGDINFO could be used to retrieve the >number of cylinders, heads and sectors of a drive. This could be called on >/dev/ad0 for example. Under FreeBSD 5 it seems to produce "Inappropriate >ioctl for device" unless you call it on an individual partition >(/dev/ad0s1a for example). > >Is there a way around this? Use the ioctls you find in they should work on all disk devices. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:07:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DB437B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mundomateo.com (24-56-193-117.mdmmi.voyager.net [24.56.193.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDE143F93 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:07:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matthew@mundomateo.com) Received: from mundomateo.com (localhost.mundomateo.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mundomateo.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B2EAB5C93 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.120.158.65 (SquirrelMail authenticated user matthew) by www.mundomateo.com with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1553.216.120.158.65.1054566440.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 11:07:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew Hagerty" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 RC2a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Are write() calls guaranteed atomic? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: matthew@mundomateo.com List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:07:22 -0000 Greetings, I'm writing a server that receives data via a named pipe (FIFO) and will always have more than one other process sending data to it, and I'm concerned with preventing data multiplexing. The data coming in will be lines of text delimited with a newline, but the processes writing the data have no knowledge of the FIFO, they simply think they are writing to a file. This being the case, the processes writing the data give no regard to PIPE_BUF and may send data in longer lengths (but probably never longer than 2K to 4K.) Will the kernel ensure that the data write() will be delivered to the FIFO atomically even if the data is larger than PIPE_BUF, such that two or more successive read() calls will retrieve the data in order? If this is the case, is this specific to FreeBSD, or is this functionality defined as a POSIX standard and generally portable? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Matthew From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:11:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C61937B401; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milla.ask33.net (milla.ask33.net [217.197.166.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C13A43F93; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@milla.ask33.net) Received: by milla.ask33.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2ECA43ABB4D; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:16:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:16:54 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: Alexandr Kovalenko Message-ID: <20030602151654.GY45118@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <20030602130248.GA21429@nevermind.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DhQwRAYkrIIrFlia" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030602130248.GA21429@nevermind.kiev.ua> X-PGP-Key-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl/jules.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trimming of chroot jail path in df(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:11:26 -0000 --DhQwRAYkrIIrFlia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 04:02:48PM +0300, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: +> I've found module jailfsstat: +>=20 +> http://garage.freebsd.pl/jailfsstat.tgz +>=20 +> which task is that process in jail can see only file systems mounted +> inside of jail. +>=20 +> It works somehow incorrect and I would like to ask you for an URL of +> FreeBSD's vfs implementation documentation. Somebody has raported that there is off-by-one error somewhere, but it wasn't critical AFAIK. Have you found some other incorrect behaviour? If yes, I could always fix it in my free time. --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek pawel@dawidek.net UNIX Systems Programmer/Administrator http://garage.freebsd.pl Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! http://cerber.sourceforge.net --DhQwRAYkrIIrFlia Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBPttqZj/PhmMH/Mf1AQGfSwP+MhqZqR+b21U4FD7xJZB3oOh/thLiMDrS UeXxEDrhWx5u4SVboyNExVCMMvTGWss1fci23WCCpE2cb69+j/ZJfxIPaG1TqHu3 IjqKZNRxfRTx4uiklXxsIRyDHTFmhW8y3lwJrXdVuSW9ye3VNfipQcOylKyqB0hd nhNFu8Zbu14= =JI6x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DhQwRAYkrIIrFlia-- From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:17:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0D237B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milla.ask33.net (milla.ask33.net [217.197.166.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C83843F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:17:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@milla.ask33.net) Received: by milla.ask33.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C53973ABB51; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:22:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:22:57 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: Mark Murray Message-ID: <20030602152257.GZ45118@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <200306011546.h51FkAHh003508@grimreaper.grondar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gK+LRxvpqA0rHHYe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200306011546.h51FkAHh003508@grimreaper.grondar.org> X-PGP-Key-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl/jules.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Forged subscriptions and the troll. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:17:26 -0000 --gK+LRxvpqA0rHHYe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 04:46:10PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: +> We are currently being attacked by an individual who is attempting +> to mass-subscribe our lists to other mailing lists. +>=20 +> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY OF THIS MAIL! I am taking care of it. +>=20 +> Thank you for your co-operation. :-) Maybe is time to disallow posting for non-members on selected lists? --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek pawel@dawidek.net UNIX Systems Programmer/Administrator http://garage.freebsd.pl Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! http://cerber.sourceforge.net --gK+LRxvpqA0rHHYe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBPttr0T/PhmMH/Mf1AQHLxQP/cQCwReLvhTed3MdXOtGRzI5v19dHoN7U 9ZyPvigkbbUS3LOZoRg1dlrllfyINdheUIZanCIvM6RWKywSvImi6iBsGMJjV+MC CrxLFjXqrLpuLVkTpbTOnis+6Ehqwi6hKik6gu8X01jvpyWfLnqJynQH5X1JJqNG p3bzA3dn2xc= =6upG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gK+LRxvpqA0rHHYe-- From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:22:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CC137B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amun.isnic.is (amun.isnic.is [193.4.58.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE41643F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:22:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oli@amun.isnic.is) Received: from amun.isnic.is (oli@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amun.isnic.is (8.12.9/8.12.9/isnic) with ESMTP id h52FMliu071009; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:22:47 GMT (envelope-from oli@amun.isnic.is) Received: (from oli@localhost) by amun.isnic.is (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h52FMleP071008; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:22:47 GMT (envelope-from oli) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:22:47 +0000 From: Olafur Osvaldsson To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek Message-ID: <20030602152247.GE69078@isnic.is> References: <200306011546.h51FkAHh003508@grimreaper.grondar.org> <20030602152257.GZ45118@garage.freebsd.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030602152257.GZ45118@garage.freebsd.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=6.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.54-isnic X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.54-isnic (1.174.2.17-2003-05-11-exp) cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Mark Murray Subject: Re: Forged subscriptions and the troll. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:22:52 -0000 Pawel, On Mon, 02 Jun 2003, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > Maybe is time to disallow posting for non-members on selected lists? I second that, there are (probably) lots of people willing to moderate the lists and weed out the junk from valid posts. Yes, that would mean a possible few hours delay (maybe a day) for non-subscribers but I would think that is acceptable. With time those not subscribed but with a large number of valid posts could be whitelisted and thus don't get stuck in the moderator queue. /Oli -- Olafur Osvaldsson Systems Administrator Internet a Islandi hf. Tel: +354 525-5291 Email: oli@isnic.is From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:23:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E549137B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.FreeBSD.org.uk [194.242.157.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C5343F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:23:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.org) Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (Ugrondar@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h52FNHuD068367; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:23:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.org) Received: (from Ugrondar@localhost)h52FNHlE068366; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:23:17 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: storm.FreeBSD.org.uk: Ugrondar set sender to mark@grondar.org using -f Received: from grondar.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])h52FMwHh015560; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:22:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.org) From: Mark Murray Message-Id: <200306021522.h52FMwHh015560@grimreaper.grondar.org> To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:22:57 +0200." <20030602152257.GZ45118@garage.freebsd.pl> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:22:58 +0100 Sender: mark@grondar.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FROM_NO_LOWER,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Forged subscriptions and the troll. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:23:20 -0000 Pawel Jakub Dawidek writes: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 04:46:10PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: > +> We are currently being attacked by an individual who is attempting > +> to mass-subscribe our lists to other mailing lists. > +>=20 > +> PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO ANY OF THIS MAIL! I am taking care of it. > +>=20 > +> Thank you for your co-operation. :-) > > Maybe is time to disallow posting for non-members on selected lists? As I said, I'm taking care of things. M -- Mark Murray iumop ap!sdn w,I idlaH From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:33:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD9737B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from math.teaser.net (math.teaser.net [213.91.2.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE6843FA3 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e-masson@kisoft-services.com) Received: from notbsdems.interne.kisoft-services.com (nantes.kisoft-services.com [193.56.60.243]) by math.teaser.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFFB6C817; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:33:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by notbsdems.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F39145B2BF; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 17:33:16 +0200 (CEST) To: Mark Murray From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <200306021522.h52FMwHh015560@grimreaper.grondar.org> (Mark Murray's message of "Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:22:58 +0100") References: <200306021522.h52FMwHh015560@grimreaper.grondar.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:33:16 +0200 Message-ID: <861xych4ub.fsf@notbsdems.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Forged subscriptions and the troll. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:33:36 -0000 >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Murray writes: Mark> As I said, I'm taking care of things. Thanks, Mark. Hope it won't give you to much work. Eric Masson -- Depuis ce matin, j'ai une IP en 213.@@@.@@@ et des plumes. C'est devenu apparement une IP statique. Mon contrat me donne droit à une IP dynamique.. -+- TW in : Neuneu se fixe -+- From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:38:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7F337B404; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (external.osdn.org.ua [212.40.34.156]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF4343FAF; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:38:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: from kurush.osdn.org.ua (never@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h52FbisB029081; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:37:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from never@kurush.osdn.org.ua) Received: (from never@localhost) by kurush.osdn.org.ua (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) id h52FbiIL029078; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:37:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from never) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:37:43 +0300 From: Alexandr Kovalenko To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek Message-ID: <20030602153743.GB28919@nevermind.kiev.ua> References: <20030602130248.GA21429@nevermind.kiev.ua> <20030602151654.GY45118@garage.freebsd.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030602151654.GY45118@garage.freebsd.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trimming of chroot jail path in df(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:38:35 -0000 Hello, Pawel Jakub Dawidek! On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 05:16:54PM +0200, you wrote: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 04:02:48PM +0300, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: > +> I've found module jailfsstat: > +> > +> http://garage.freebsd.pl/jailfsstat.tgz > +> > +> which task is that process in jail can see only file systems mounted > +> inside of jail. > +> > +> It works somehow incorrect and I would like to ask you for an URL of > +> FreeBSD's vfs implementation documentation. > > Somebody has raported that there is off-by-one error somewhere, but it > wasn't critical AFAIK. Have you found some other incorrect behaviour? > If yes, I could always fix it in my free time. Incorrect behaviour is: in host system: bash-2.05b# df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 128990 35988 82684 30% / /dev/da0s1f 2064302 8344 1890814 0% /tmp /dev/da0s1g 10322414 1703924 7792698 18% /usr /dev/da0s1h 97825400 3834024 86165344 4% /usr/local /dev/da0s1e 2064302 12758 1886400 1% /var /dev/da1s1e 233513688 1889152 212943448 1% /jails procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc /dev/vn1a 503966 149870 313780 32% /jails/mounts/217.20.163.128 procfs 4 4 0 100% /jails/mounts/217.20.163.128/proc /dev/vn2a 503966 203640 260010 44% /jails/mounts/217.20.163.129 procfs 4 4 0 100% /jails/mounts/217.20.163.129/proc with your, unpatched version: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/vn1a 503966 149870 313780 32% / procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc /dev/vn2a 503966 203640 260010 44% procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc with patch I've just sent to you: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/vn1a 503966 149870 313780 32% / procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc -- NEVE-RIPE, will build world for food Ukrainian FreeBSD User Group http://uafug.org.ua/ From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:38:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33ED437B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F05A243FAF for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdcki@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 6994 invoked by uid 65534); 2 Jun 2003 15:38:34 -0000 Received: from pD9E2DCED.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO gmx.net) (217.226.220.237) by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 02 Jun 2003 17:38:34 +0200 Message-ID: <3EDB6FB7.6060008@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:39:35 +0200 From: Marcin Dalecki User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030517 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, pl, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew References: <20030603001755.S68271-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> In-Reply-To: <20030603001755.S68271-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Retrieving disk geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:38:37 -0000 Andrew wrote: > Hi, > > Under FreeBSD 4.x the ioctl DIOCGDINFO could be used to retrieve the > number of cylinders, heads and sectors of a drive. This could be called on > /dev/ad0 for example. Under FreeBSD 5 it seems to produce "Inappropriate > ioctl for device" unless you call it on an individual partition > (/dev/ad0s1a for example). > > Is there a way around this? No. Becouse there is in fact no such thing like a "geometry" on modern ATA drives. There is just a quigmare of values which serve only one single purpose - satisfying rotten code in stinking BIOS. Not more not less. (Modern is here on the scale of about 8 or even more years.) From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:44:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D1637B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE7243FBF for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from user-38ldshk.dialup.mindspring.com ([209.86.242.52] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19MrTh-00049S-00; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:44:06 -0700 Message-ID: <3EDB7073.E1F8F9F0@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:42:43 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" References: <163319560804.20030602151407@internethelp.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4a08f1ed36a6627f4adda6aa1bd1284bf548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What RFCs are supported by FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:44:10 -0000 "Nickolay A. Kritsky" wrote: > Does anybody know, which RFCs are followed by FreeBSD's core network > drivers (like IP,TCP,routing,UDP,ICMP drivers)? All of them. -- Terry From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:49:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0986C37B40B for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263CA43F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:49:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h52FnIfb077253; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:49:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:49:17 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Matthew Hagerty Message-ID: <20030602154917.GA97655@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1553.216.120.158.65.1054566440.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1553.216.120.158.65.1054566440.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.1-BETA X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are write() calls guaranteed atomic? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:49:20 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 02), Matthew Hagerty said: > I'm writing a server that receives data via a named pipe (FIFO) and > will always have more than one other process sending data to it, and > I'm concerned with preventing data multiplexing. The data coming in > will be lines of text delimited with a newline, but the processes > writing the data have no knowledge of the FIFO, they simply think > they are writing to a file. This being the case, the processes > writing the data give no regard to PIPE_BUF and may send data in > longer lengths (but probably never longer than 2K to 4K.) > > Will the kernel ensure that the data write() will be delivered to the > FIFO atomically even if the data is larger than PIPE_BUF, such that > two or more successive read() calls will retrieve the data in order? Pipes are always FIFO; it's part of their definition. From SUSv3: A read on the file descriptor fildes[0] shall access data written to the file descriptor fildes[1] on a first-in-first-out basis. To ensure that your writes don't get interleaved with writes from other processes, you do need to limit your write sizes to PIPE_BUF or less bytes: Write requests of {PIPE_BUF} bytes or less shall not be interleaved with data from other processes doing writes on the same pipe. Writes of greater than {PIPE_BUF} bytes may have data interleaved, on arbitrary boundaries, with writes by other processes, whether or not the O_NONBLOCK flag of the file status flags is set. If you cannot modify the clients, try changing your server to create a Unix domain socket instead of a named pipe (the clients shouldn't see any difference). -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 08:51:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E9137B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net (bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE31543F93 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 08:51:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from user-38ldshk.dialup.mindspring.com ([209.86.242.52] helo=mindspring.com) by bluejay.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19MraT-00056k-00; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:51:05 -0700 Message-ID: <3EDB7214.B9004DF7@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 08:49:40 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew References: <20030603001755.S68271-100000@starbug.ugh.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a491185bfa2acea751e56ad75961b048fea8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Retrieving disk geometry X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:51:08 -0000 Andrew wrote: > Under FreeBSD 4.x the ioctl DIOCGDINFO could be used to retrieve the > number of cylinders, heads and sectors of a drive. This could be called on > /dev/ad0 for example. Under FreeBSD 5 it seems to produce "Inappropriate > ioctl for device" unless you call it on an individual partition > (/dev/ad0s1a for example). > > Is there a way around this? All the geometries returned by this call are fictitous these days, so there's really no value to it. What you really want is the SCSI mode page 2, or the Maxtor or Quantum vendor-private command, for IDE. Anything else means that you're going to be pessimising, rather than optimizing, when you make decisions on the basis of disk geometry reported by this call. -- Terry From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 09:57:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F93937B404 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 09:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mundomateo.com (24-56-193-117.mdmmi.voyager.net [24.56.193.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD00443F85 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 09:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matthew@mundomateo.com) Received: from mundomateo.com (localhost.mundomateo.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mundomateo.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 120115CA2 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.120.158.65 (SquirrelMail authenticated user matthew) by www.mundomateo.com with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1720.216.120.158.65.1054573025.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030602154917.GA97655@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1553.216.120.158.65.1054566440.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> <20030602154917.GA97655@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:57:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew Hagerty" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 RC2a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Are write() calls guaranteed atomic? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: matthew@mundomateo.com List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:57:08 -0000 > In the last episode (Jun 02), Matthew Hagerty said: >> I'm writing a server that receives data via a named pipe (FIFO) and >> will always have more than one other process sending data to it, and >> I'm concerned with preventing data multiplexing. The data coming in >> will be lines of text delimited with a newline, but the processes >> writing the data have no knowledge of the FIFO, they simply think >> they are writing to a file. This being the case, the processes >> writing the data give no regard to PIPE_BUF and may send data in >> longer lengths (but probably never longer than 2K to 4K.) >> >> Will the kernel ensure that the data write() will be delivered to the >> FIFO atomically even if the data is larger than PIPE_BUF, such that >> two or more successive read() calls will retrieve the data in order? > > Pipes are always FIFO; it's part of their definition. From SUSv3: > > A read on the file descriptor fildes[0] shall access data written to > the file descriptor fildes[1] on a first-in-first-out basis. > > To ensure that your writes don't get interleaved with writes from other > processes, you do need to limit your write sizes to PIPE_BUF or less > bytes: > > Write requests of {PIPE_BUF} bytes or less shall not be interleaved > with data from other processes doing writes on the same pipe. Writes > of greater than {PIPE_BUF} bytes may have data interleaved, on > arbitrary boundaries, with writes by other processes, whether or not > the O_NONBLOCK flag of the file status flags is set. > > If you cannot modify the clients, try changing your server to create a > Unix domain socket instead of a named pipe (the clients shouldn't see > any difference). > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com Dan, Thanks for the info, very helpful! What reference did you get that from? I searched high and low to find a definitive answer (like the one above) before posting. As for the clients, no, I don't have control over them. They are web server child processes, Apache usually. I considered using a socket, but I must have missed something since I didn't realize you could have a local socket that looks and smells like a file to external processes? Based on your post, can I assume that I can create a socket that can be accessed using open() and write() by external processes? On my way to RTFM... man socket (again...) Thanks, Matthew From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 10:28:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A6937B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlas.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (atlas.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048C343FA3 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:28:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stolz@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from menelaos.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (menelaos.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.73]) 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h52HSI301739; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:28:18 +0200 Received: (from stolz@localhost)h52HSIBB027577; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:28:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stolz) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:28:18 +0200 From: Volker Stolz To: matthew@mundomateo.com Message-ID: <20030602172818.GG93433@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <1553.216.120.158.65.1054566440.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> <20030602154917.GA97655@dan.emsphone.com> <1720.216.120.158.65.1054573025.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1720.216.120.158.65.1054573025.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> X-PGP-Key: finger vs@foldr.org X-PGP-Id: 0x3FD1B6B5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are write() calls guaranteed atomic? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:28:21 -0000 In local.freebsd-hackers, you wrote: > Thanks for the info, very helpful! What reference did you get that from? > I searched high and low to find a definitive answer (like the one above) > before posting. You can find an online version of the Single Unix Specification v3 at http://www.unix-systems.org/version3/online.html (although it's kind of hard to guess that you need that document from the write(2) man page). -- http://www-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/stolz/ *** PGP *** S/MIME rage against the finite state machine From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 10:29:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C862537B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1C643F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:29:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h52HTNEd050744 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Jun 2003 20:29:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h52HTNdm050739; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 20:29:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 20:29:23 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Matthew Hagerty Message-ID: <20030602172923.GA49294@sunbay.com> References: <1553.216.120.158.65.1054566440.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> <20030602154917.GA97655@dan.emsphone.com> <1720.216.120.158.65.1054573025.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1720.216.120.158.65.1054573025.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are write() calls guaranteed atomic? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:29:36 -0000 --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 12:57:05PM -0400, Matthew Hagerty wrote: > > In the last episode (Jun 02), Matthew Hagerty said: > >> I'm writing a server that receives data via a named pipe (FIFO) and > >> will always have more than one other process sending data to it, and > >> I'm concerned with preventing data multiplexing. The data coming in > >> will be lines of text delimited with a newline, but the processes > >> writing the data have no knowledge of the FIFO, they simply think > >> they are writing to a file. This being the case, the processes > >> writing the data give no regard to PIPE_BUF and may send data in > >> longer lengths (but probably never longer than 2K to 4K.) > >> > >> Will the kernel ensure that the data write() will be delivered to the > >> FIFO atomically even if the data is larger than PIPE_BUF, such that > >> two or more successive read() calls will retrieve the data in order? > > > > Pipes are always FIFO; it's part of their definition. From SUSv3: > > > > A read on the file descriptor fildes[0] shall access data written to > > the file descriptor fildes[1] on a first-in-first-out basis. > > > > To ensure that your writes don't get interleaved with writes from other > > processes, you do need to limit your write sizes to PIPE_BUF or less > > bytes: > > > > Write requests of {PIPE_BUF} bytes or less shall not be interleaved > > with data from other processes doing writes on the same pipe. Writes > > of greater than {PIPE_BUF} bytes may have data interleaved, on > > arbitrary boundaries, with writes by other processes, whether or not > > the O_NONBLOCK flag of the file status flags is set. > > > > If you cannot modify the clients, try changing your server to create a > > Unix domain socket instead of a named pipe (the clients shouldn't see > > any difference). > > > > -- > > Dan Nelson > > dnelson@allantgroup.com >=20 >=20 > Dan, >=20 > Thanks for the info, very helpful! What reference did you get that from?= =20 > I searched high and low to find a definitive answer (like the one above) > before posting. >=20 http://www.unix-systems.org/version3/online.html --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+24lzUkv4P6juNwoRAqqxAJ414mSw/w9m+L2oU4jbQJWoEvxR6ACfTGBj ho8TiiwyrevJuG72pqbfY90= =ZLQX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk-- From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 10:32:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41DE37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pm.star.spb.ru (mail-pm.star.spb.ru [217.195.82.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B40943F75 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:32:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nkritsky@internethelp.ru) Received: from pink.star.spb.ru ([217.195.82.10]) by mail-pm.star.spb.ru (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h52HWkPW051653; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:32:47 +0400 (MSD) Received: from IBMKA ([217.195.82.7]) by pink.star.spb.ru with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id K74KPV7J; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:32:46 +0400 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:32:04 +0400 From: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <149342238412.20030602213204@internethelp.ru> To: Terry Lambert In-reply-To: <3EDB7073.E1F8F9F0@mindspring.com> References: <163319560804.20030602151407@internethelp.ru> <3EDB7073.E1F8F9F0@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: What RFCs are supported by FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Nickolay A. Kritsky" List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:32:52 -0000 Hello Terry and -hackers, Thanks to all who found time to answer. Monday, June 02, 2003, 7:42:43 PM, you wrote: TL> "Nickolay A. Kritsky" wrote: >> Does anybody know, which RFCs are followed by FreeBSD's core network >> drivers (like IP,TCP,routing,UDP,ICMP drivers)? TL> All of them. ;------------------------------------------- ; NKritsky ; mailto:nkritsky@internethelp.ru From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 10:36:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFE637B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381D143F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:36:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h52HaDLU053646; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:36:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:36:13 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Matthew Hagerty Message-ID: <20030602173612.GB1407@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1553.216.120.158.65.1054566440.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> <20030602154917.GA97655@dan.emsphone.com> <1720.216.120.158.65.1054573025.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1720.216.120.158.65.1054573025.squirrel@www.mundomateo.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.1-BETA X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are write() calls guaranteed atomic? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:36:16 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 02), Matthew Hagerty said: > Thanks for the info, very helpful! What reference did you get that > from? I searched high and low to find a definitive answer (like the > one above) before posting. The Open Group has their Single Unix Specification available online, which is technically identical to IEEE Std 1003.1. http://www.unix.org/single_unix_specification/ > As for the clients, no, I don't have control over them. They are web > server child processes, Apache usually. I considered using a socket, but > I must have missed something since I didn't realize you could have a local > socket that looks and smells like a file to external processes? Based on > your post, can I assume that I can create a socket that can be accessed > using open() and write() by external processes? > > On my way to RTFM... man socket (again...) Take a look at syslogd; it creates a unix domain socket at /var/run/log. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 10:40:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9180937B401; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milla.ask33.net (milla.ask33.net [217.197.166.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE6A43F93; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:40:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@milla.ask33.net) Received: by milla.ask33.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2C2E53ABB47; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:46:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:46:07 +0200 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: Alexandr Kovalenko Message-ID: <20030602174607.GB45118@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <20030602130248.GA21429@nevermind.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="raUW49jrFKq6b8og" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030602130248.GA21429@nevermind.kiev.ua> X-PGP-Key-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl/jules.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: trimming of chroot jail path in df(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:40:42 -0000 --raUW49jrFKq6b8og Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 04:02:48PM +0300, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: +> I've found module jailfsstat: +>=20 +> http://garage.freebsd.pl/jailfsstat.tgz +>=20 +> which task is that process in jail can see only file systems mounted +> inside of jail. Ok, jailfsstat module was fixed and could be found here: http://garage.freebsd.pl/jailfsstat.tbz Thanks Alexandr! --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek pawel@dawidek.net UNIX Systems Programmer/Administrator http://garage.freebsd.pl Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! http://cerber.sourceforge.net --raUW49jrFKq6b8og Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBPtuNXz/PhmMH/Mf1AQEX8gQAoc5UHwsVFOz4InoRSySIso/MLlgH08g0 EWx8zV5Vqcshpj69fy0lpIYTectlwy8P9qE7maSb/O/O1vGRPCWZds7YhgnYaNU2 QvIlHzsNh+vVVJL0hiFC9waLDxjB7BNsQIQh5FhorWypveawfPso2EaQQh3GZbjg eFx9BhV1d24= =JlJp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --raUW49jrFKq6b8og-- From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 12:05:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB9637B404 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host3.twdomain.com (host3.twdomain.com [209.239.42.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C7B43FA3 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from LMCCNIJDAKDCMJHIKEFLCFAA.eli@astracom.com.tw) Received: (from astracom@localhost) by host3.twdomain.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h52J5kD06043; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:05:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:05:46 -0400 From: LMCCNIJDAKDCMJHIKEFLCFAA.eli@astracom.com.tw Message-Id: <200306021905.h52J5kD06043@host3.twdomain.com> X-Authentication-Warning: host3.twdomain.com: astracom set sender to LMCCNIJDAKDCMJHIKEFLCFAA.eli@astracom.com.tw using -f To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200306021905.h52J5ad05987@host3.twdomain.com> In-Reply-To: <200306021905.h52J5ad05987@host3.twdomain.com> X-Loop: default@astracom.com.tw Precedence: junk Subject: Re: Your application X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:05:48 -0000 This is an autoresponder. 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From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 12:23:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DE437B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917BD43F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:23:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 6079 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2003 19:23:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 2 Jun 2003 19:23:08 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h52JN6p0000786; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:23:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030602075328.GV45118@garage.freebsd.pl> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:23:07 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Pawel Jakub Dawidek cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Locking, locking... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:23:10 -0000 On 02-Jun-2003 Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > Hello hackers... > > I need advice how to handle with one locking problem. > > For example I got some list with some values. This list could be > modified by any process. I want to get values from this list and > copy them to allocated table. But how to count number of needed > fields? > > mtx_lock(&mtx_list_lock); > n = 0; > SLIST_FOREACH(elem, &list_head, l_next) { > n++; > } > mtx_unlock(&mtx_list_lock); > tab = malloc(n * sizeof(something), M_TEMP, M_WAITOK); > mtx_lock(&mtx_list_lock); > [...] > > As we all knew size of list could be changed when we were in malloc(). > Of course we could check list size again after malloc() and mtx_lock(), > but what to do when it was changed? Recall memory allocation? > If size of this list depends on every process there is a chance to DoS > such piece of code. Return an error? Not always it is possible. > > IMHO there should be malloc() version that could be called under lock. > Malloc() M_NOWAIT could be called in such scenario? > How do you handle with situations like this? In the process case, the all process list is protected by an sx lock (which you can hold across malloc(M_WAITOK)). Another solution in some cases is that if the list grows, just copy out the first n items. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 12:23:39 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF9037B420 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-x4.nokia.com (mgw-x4.nokia.com [131.228.20.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1959543F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:23:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Vijay.Singh@nokia.com) Received: from esvir04nok.ntc.nokia.com (esvir04nokt.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.36])h52JNYD28687 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:23:34 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from esebh001.NOE.Nokia.com (unverified) by esvir04nok.ntc.nokia.com for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:23:34 +0300 Received: from daebh002.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.18.242.232]) by esebh001.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6139); Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:23:34 +0300 Received: from mvebe001.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.18.140.37]) by daebh002.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6139); Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:23:06 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:23:05 -0700 Message-ID: <4D7B558499107545BB45044C63822DDE02C08E7B@mvebe001.americas.nokia.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sendfile in FreeBSD 2.2 Thread-Index: AcMf0ZL6niNn9C7ASBuI3BPoQd2GTAInPI6AADNxWDA= From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2003 19:23:06.0814 (UTC) FILETIME=[6523FDE0:01C3293C] Subject: RE: sendfile in FreeBSD 2.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:23:39 -0000 Hi, I am following up my own post. I have been able to do most of the = porting, but I have one question. What do I replace the OFF_TO_IDX() = macro with? I could start with code that always passes the offset as 0 = (sending the complete file). Any help would be appreciated. br vijay -----Original Message----- From: ext Yaoping Ruan [mailto:yruan@cs.princeton.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 12:42 PM To: Singh Vijay (NET/MtView) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendfile in FreeBSD 2.2 Hi, VOP_GETVOBJECT() macro is created by kern/vnode_if.pl and vnode_if.src. = By running them you should be able to get vnode_if.c and vnode_if.h = file. In vnode_if.h, you will get the macro defined as follow: (From = FreeBsd 4.6) static __inline int VOP_GETVOBJECT __P(( struct vnode *vp, struct vm_object **objpp)); static __inline int VOP_GETVOBJECT(vp, objpp) struct vnode *vp; struct vm_object **objpp; { struct vop_getvobject_args a; int rc; a.a_desc =3D VDESC(vop_getvobject); a.a_vp =3D vp; a.a_objpp =3D objpp; rc =3D VCALL(vp, VOFFSET(vop_getvobject), &a); return (rc); } Hope this helps. - Yaoping > Message: 19 > Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 09:32:26 -0700 > From: > Subject: sendfile in FreeBSD 2.2 > To: > Message-ID: > > Hello. Would it be possible to port the sendfile system call to a = FreeBSD 2.2 based system? Has anyone done this? I am trying to port the = code from a later FreeBSD release and I have been unable to find out = what the VOP_GETVOBJECT() macro does and how/what should it be replaced = with for my case. Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks > vijay From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 12:32:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6099037B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vlad.rackshack.net (vlad.rackshack.net [216.40.198.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C652F43FBD for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:32:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@solsuite.com) Received: from tedso (host1-171.pool80180.interbusiness.it [80.180.171.1]) by vlad.rackshack.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h52Jgcj08382 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:42:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 14:42:38 -0500 Message-ID: <182401c3293d$a23bae70$0f00a8c0@tedso> From: To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Unsubscribe to the "SolSuite - Solitaire Card Games Suite" Newsletter error X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:32:05 -0000 Hello, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cannot be unsubscribed as there was never an initial subscription to the = SolSuite 2003 Newsletter. Ted TreeCardGames.com - Support support_team@solsuite.com http://www.solsuite.com From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 13:02:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099D937B404; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392C943FA3; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:02:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 065F32105A; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:01:58 -0700 From: Sean Chittenden To: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <20030602200158.GH65470@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <20030530133302.A48390@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Juli Mallett cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network stack cloning / virtualization patches X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:02:01 -0000 > > Has anyone looked at making the patch work with CURRENT? Does > > this do anything to degrade performance of UP systems with no (0?) > > virtualised images running? > > I have been running tests between two machines with this patch > installed. There is a "per packet" overhead increase of about 1%. > there is no overhead increase in the per-byte overhead.. in ther > words, sending 1 byte packets gets about a 1% decrease in throughput > but sending 8k chunks has almost no overhead increase.. > > Both my machines end up maxing out the 100Mb ethernet between them > before they see any speed difference at high packet sizes. 1% per packet seems a bit high... where is the overhead coming from? Seems as though there should be less overhead and that lookup of the necessary components for each vimage could be found with a hash... I looked through the patch and couldn't see any places that screamed optimization. Is the overhead really just from copying the data of the vimage around? > > Does it make the locking situation much worse? Can it be stripped > > down to minimal, clean, well-architected diffs to accomplish a > > centralised goal, rather than a "Network+goodies, random subsystem > > overhaul"? > > It is unlikely that the patches could be made in smaller orthogonal > patches. Its kind of "all or nothing".. Either everything is global > or it is in a structure (per VM). *nods* Hrm, it would appear so. > > If this is your priority patch, hunting down someone with serious > > network\ stack-fu to review the diff, and whatnot, would probably > > be a good investment of your time in that regard. > > I'll bepresenting Marco's paper at USENIX on the (ummm 12th I > think). His baby is due then so he can't make it.. (whereas mine > arrived today so I'll be looking for an excuse to be away from the > house for 2 days ;-) :) Congrats (again!)! Julian, am I safe in assuming that you have an interest in this work? If not, I may setup a p4 branch to work with and to merge these bits into -CURRENT if no one else is interested. -sc -- Sean Chittenden From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 13:39:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2BA37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv2.resnet.ohio-state.edu (srv2.resnet.ohio-state.edu [164.107.3.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 28E1643F3F for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:39:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: (qmail 471 invoked by uid 506); 2 Jun 2003 21:15:20 -0000 Received: from mistry.7@osu.edu by srv2.resnet.ohio-state.edu by uid 503 with qmail-scanner-1.14 ( Clear:. Processed in 0.025053 secs); 02 Jun 2003 21:15:20 -0000 Received: from rdrt-164-107-205-86.resnet.ohio-state.edu (HELO 192.168.1.100) (164.107.205.86) by srv2.resnet.ohio-state.edu with SMTP; 2 Jun 2003 21:15:20 -0000 From: Anish Mistry To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:39:57 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_dY72+w0NU2p2v8G" Message-Id: <200306021639.57656.mistry.7@osu.edu> Subject: Sound Panic - VIA VT8233 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:39:37 -0000 --Boundary-00=_dY72+w0NU2p2v8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I'm getting a consistant reproducable panic with my onboard VIA VT8233 sound. Attached backtrace and dmesg and sysctl.conf FreeBSD bigguy.am-productions.biz 4.8-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #3: Mon Jun 2 15:47:53 EDT 2003 root@bigguy.am-productions.biz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BIGGUY i386 Thanks in advance, -- Anish Mistry --Boundary-00=_dY72+w0NU2p2v8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="VT8233-panic" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="VT8233-panic" #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 487 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) bt #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:487 #1 0xc0165197 in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:316 #2 0xc01655d5 in panic (fmt=0xc02d83cc "%s") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:595 #3 0xc028e43b in trap_fatal (frame=0xdbbd7e0c, eva=0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:974 #4 0xc028de1e in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 7644, tf_esi = -1042644992, tf_ebp = -608338324, tf_isp = -608338376, tf_ebx = 0, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 7644, tf_trapno = 18, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071212057, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -1041577408, tf_ss = -1042677632}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:636 #5 0xc02699e7 in feed_rate (f=0xc1eaca40, c=0xc1d5c500, b=0xc1da7000 "", count=7644, source=0xc1d9fb00) at /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/feeder_rate.c:426 #6 0xc026ba03 in feed_vchan_s16 (f=0xc1c11200, c=0xc1c2a80 #7 0xc026999a in feed_rate (f=0xc1d5df00, c=0xc1c2a800, b=0xc1c36000 "", count=2048, source=0xc1c1d800) at feeder_if.h:61 #8 0xc02654a0 in sndbuf_feed (from=0xc1c1d800, to=0xc1c1d900, channel=0xc1c2a800, feeder=0xc1d5df00, count=2048) at feeder_if.h:61 #9 0xc0265943 in chn_wrfeed (c=0xc1c2a800) at /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c:219 #10 0xc026598b in chn_wrintr (c=0xc1c2a800) ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- at /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c:235 #11 0xc0265d29 in chn_intr (c=0xc1c2a800) at /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/channel.c:444 #12 0xc025fa7c in via_intr (p=0xc1c2a980) at /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/via8233.c:436 #13 0xc0296655 in intr_mux (arg=0xc11801c0) at /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/intr_machdep.c:582 #14 0x2808ac93 in ?? () #15 0x280885f2 in ?? () #16 0x280897ca in ?? () #17 0x2807fedf in ?? () #18 0x28072139 in ?? () #19 0x28073f98 in ?? () #20 0x804dbc6 in ?? () #21 0x804d698 in ?? () #22 0x804d367 in ?? () #23 0x8049dd2 in ?? () --Boundary-00=_dY72+w0NU2p2v8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="VT8233-panic-sysctl.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="VT8233-panic-sysctl.conf" # Allow users to mount devices vfs.usermount=1 # Enable ATI TV Tuner to capture all channels :) FINALLY! hw.bt848.tuner=4 # enable 4x mode for the graphics card hw.nvidia.registry.EnableVia4x=1 hw.nvidia.registry.EnableAGPFW=1 kern.fallback_elf_brand=3 # Enable async access to sound card hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=6 #hw.snd.pcm1.buffersize=4096 #hw.snd.pcm1.vchans=4 hw.snd.maxautovchans=6 #hw.snd.pcm0.buffersize=10240 # Increase shared memory for smoother video playback #kern.ipc.shmmax=134217728 #kern.ipc.shmall=32768 # enable dma add to /boot/loader.conf #hw.ata.ata_dma="1" #hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" --Boundary-00=_dY72+w0NU2p2v8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="VT8233-panic-dmesg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="VT8233-panic-dmesg" Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #3: Mon Jun 2 15:47:53 EDT 2003 root@bigguy.am-productions.biz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BIGGUY Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) processor (1333.39-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x644 Stepping = 4 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000 real memory = 402587648 (393152K bytes) avail memory = 386265088 (377212K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc050b000. Preloaded elf module "linux.ko" at 0xc050b09c. Preloaded elf module "nvidia.ko" at 0xc050b13c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00fdf00 apm0: on motherboard apm0: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 nvidia0: mem 0xe0000000-0xe7ffffff,0xec000000-0xecffffff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 bktr0: mem 0xef101000-0xef101fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 iicbb0: on bti2c0 iicbus0: on iicbb0 master-only iicsmb0: on iicbus0 smbus0: on iicsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 iic0: on iicbus0 iicbus1: on iicbb0 master-only iicsmb1: on iicbus1 smbus1: on iicsmb1 smb1: on smbus1 iic1: on iicbus1 smbus2: on bti2c0 smb2: on smbus2 bktr0: Warning - card vendor 0x1002 (model 0x0003) unknown. bktr0: Pinnacle/Miro TV, Temic NTSC tuner. pci0: (vendor=0x109e, dev=0x0878) at 8.1 irq 11 csa0: mem 0xef000000-0xef0fffff,0xef100000-0xef100fff irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0 csa: card is Hercules Game Theatre XP pcm0: on csa0 pcm0: (id=0x4352592d) dc0: port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xef102000-0xef1020ff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:00:94:b6:42:bc miibus0: on dc0 dcphy0: on miibus0 dcphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto viapropm0: SMBus I/O base at 0x5000 viapropm0: port 0x5000-0x500f at device 17.0 on pci0 viapropm0: SMBus revision code 0x0 smb3: on smbus3 atapci0: port 0xd400-0xd40f at device 17.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 11 at device 17.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xdc00-0xdc1f irq 11 at device 17.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 11 at device 17.4 on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcm1: port 0xe400-0xe4ff irq 10 at device 17.5 on pci0 pcm1: (id=0x414c4326) isa0: on motherboard orm0: