From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 12 04:19:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8CD16A4C1 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 04:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A9243FB1 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 04:19:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (37.80-203-228.nextgentel.com [80.203.228.37]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E0F790D8; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:19:49 +0200 (MEST) Received: by smtp.des.no (Pony Express, from userid 666) id 14B329C2BF; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:19:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dwp.des.no (dwp.des.no [10.0.0.4]) by smtp.des.no (Pony Express) with ESMTP id 0026B9C0B9; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:19:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id CBDEFB825; Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:19:44 +0200 (CEST) To: ticso@cicely.de References: <200310101417.h9AEHb4n025071@www.kukulies.org> <20031011050618.GB61302@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> <20031011222942.GM13791@cicely12.cicely.de> From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 13:19:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20031011222942.GM13791@cicely12.cicely.de> (Bernd Walter's message of "Sun, 12 Oct 2003 00:29:43 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on dsa.des.no X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 cc: "C. Kukulies" cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smallest piece of hardware that runs *BSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:19:53 -0000 Bernd Walter writes: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 03:06:18PM +1000, John Birrell wrote: > > Here's one the size of a credit card: . > > It's a lot bigger than a 'bump in a cable', but it runs FreeBSD. > Leaves the question how much of the data on that page is correct. > The elan chip is 486 class as we all know from soekris systems. >From www.amd.com: The =C9lan[tm] SC520 microcontroller combines a 32-bit, low-voltage Am5x86 CPU with a complete set of integrated peripherals suitable for both real-time and PC/AT-compatible embedded applications. The device also features a 32-bit PCI bus, a high-performance, 32-bit SDRAM interface and a full-featured, high-performance in-circuit emulation capability, known as the AMDebug[tm] technology. so it's not incorrect, though they might get in trouble with Intel over the use of the Pentium trademark in promotional material for a product based on an AMD microcontroller. Regarding the "computer in an ethernet jack" devices mentioned elsewhere in this thread: good luck trying to run FreeBSD on a 16-bit microcontroller with no MMU or FPU, 256 kB SRAM and 512 kB DRAM... DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no