From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 14:05:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D8F37B401 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.openaccess.org (shiva.openaccess.org [216.57.214.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9C543FA3 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:05:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) Received: from [216.57.214.35] (mfdAP.bcs.openaccess.org [216.57.214.35]) by shiva.openaccess.org (8.12.6p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6FL53eZ032770 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@staff.openaccess.org) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:05:05 -0700 From: Michael DeMan To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: OpenNMS X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:05:20 -0000 Hi All, I've heard reports of folks getting OpenNMS running on FreeBSD 4.x. I was wondering if anybody out there might have any tips or informal How-To on doing this. I've tried and given up several times. Thanks, - mike Michael F. DeMan Director of Technology OpenAccess Internet Services 1305 11th St., 3rd Floor Bellingham, WA 98225 Tel 360-647-0785 x204 Fax 360-738-9785 michael@staff.openaccess.org From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 16:29:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9622D37B401 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.vermoe.dk (mx3.w4b.dk [130.227.212.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B76543F85 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:29:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thomas@elements.dk) Received: from elements.dk ([80.196.130.161]) (AUTH: LOGIN t*garbage.dk) by mx1.vermoe.dk with esmtp; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:29:08 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:29:02 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) To: Michael DeMan From: Thomas von Hassel In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1E24408F-B71C-11D7-9A6E-0003936CEB72@elements.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenNMS X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:29:11 -0000 On tirsdag, jul 15, 2003, at 23:05 Europe/Copenhagen, Michael DeMan wrote: > OpenNMS have you tried nagios instead ? (ports/net/nagios) /thomas From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 19:39:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6483437B404 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from angryfist.fasttrackmonkey.com (angryfist.fasttrackmonkey.com [216.223.196.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F108043FB1 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 19:38:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@fasttrackmonkey.com) Received: (qmail 90687 invoked by uid 85); 16 Jul 2003 02:37:15 -0000 Received: from spork@fasttrackmonkey.com by angryfist.fasttrackmonkey.com Processed in 0.061104 secs); 16 Jul 2003 02:37:15 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: spork@fasttrackmonkey.com via angryfist.fasttrackmonkey.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.10 (Clear:0. Processed in 0.061104 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (66.92.108.110) by 0 with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 16 Jul 2003 02:37:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:38:56 -0400 (EDT) From: spork Sender: spork@green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030715203222.Q59500@green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: newfs options for large mail server (Maildir) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 02:39:02 -0000 Hi, I think the last time I had to think about this was when everyone ran their own news server and you had to tweak the filesystem to make INN perform acceptably... I'm migrating about 3,000 accounts to a new machine that will be running qmail/vpopmail, so there will be a directory for each domain, each user, each user's mailbox, etc. and since it's all Maildir instead of spools, there will be a ton of files. Hopefully the box will grow to a few thousand more boxes if we're lucky. How should I go about determining the number of inodes and the blocksize? Does anyone have any general pointers? So far I've been looking at some postings by Joe Greco from the really old days and just treating this the same way I would have treated a news server, but I'd appreciate some more specific feedback from people running a similar configuration. Even some "df -i's" of similarly-sized boxes would give me a good start. Any input at all is welcome. Thanks, Charles From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 20:28:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FC837B401 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (kennedy.psknet.com [63.171.251.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CB143FA3 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:28:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from pool-141-152-70-95.roa.east.verizon.net ([141.152.70.95] helo=tws) by psknet.com with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.20) id 19ccxb-0001S1-EX; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:28:07 -0400 From: "Troy Settle" To: "'spork'" , Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 23:28:09 -0400 Message-ID: <002301c34b4a$484684b0$0100a8c0@tws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <20030715203222.Q59500@green.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: RE: newfs options for large mail server (Maildir) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 03:28:10 -0000 I've got about 50 domains with about 4500 accounts. 4200 of those are in my primary domain. Here's my old server: Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on oldmail:/export 42G 6.5G 32G 17% 257068 10741330 2% /mnt And here's my new server (I think I went overboard on the inodes on this one): /dev/da1s1e 91G 4.1G 80G 5% 255756 95246066 0% /var2 HTH, -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks http://www.psknet.com 540.994.4254 ~ 866.477.5638 Pulaski Chamber 2002 Small Business Of The Year > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of spork > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:39 PM > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: newfs options for large mail server (Maildir) > > > Hi, > > I think the last time I had to think about this was when everyone ran > their own news server and you had to tweak the filesystem to make INN > perform acceptably... > > I'm migrating about 3,000 accounts to a new machine that will > be running > qmail/vpopmail, so there will be a directory for each domain, > each user, > each user's mailbox, etc. and since it's all Maildir instead > of spools, > there will be a ton of files. Hopefully the box will grow to a few > thousand more boxes if we're lucky. > > How should I go about determining the number of inodes and > the blocksize? > Does anyone have any general pointers? So far I've been > looking at some > postings by Joe Greco from the really old days and just > treating this the > same way I would have treated a news server, but I'd > appreciate some more > specific feedback from people running a similar > configuration. Even some > "df -i's" of similarly-sized boxes would give me a good start. > > Any input at all is welcome. > > Thanks, > > Charles > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 22:53:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4214637B401 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9219443F75 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:53:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 19cdU5-0007kN-00; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:01:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:01:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Thomas von Hassel In-Reply-To: <1E24408F-B71C-11D7-9A6E-0003936CEB72@elements.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenNMS X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 05:53:59 -0000 On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Thomas von Hassel wrote: > On tirsdag, jul 15, 2003, at 23:05 Europe/Copenhagen, Michael DeMan > wrote: > > > OpenNMS > > have you tried nagios instead ? (ports/net/nagios) nagios really isn't the comparable to OpenNMS. It is like suggesting that I use a Spreadsheet but I've asked for a Word Processor. Nagios and OpenNMS are different tools for different functions. There is some feature overlap, but the goals are rather different. You should probably get on the FreeBSD-java mailing list. Plus, you are going to hvae to provide a detailed description of what is failing ("doesn't work" isn't a problem description). OpenNMS is a big piece of software. I think there might be a FreeBSD port in progress. > /thomas Tom From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 00:58:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9745F37B401 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newmail.halenet.com.au (newmail.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA00643F75 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:58:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@newmail.halenet.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id F050C20A36 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:04:02 +1000 (EST) Received: from newmail.halenet.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.halenet.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14504-03 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:04:02 +1000 (EST) Received: from laptop (temp23.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.225]) by newmail.halenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3508120A2A for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:04:02 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <002201c34b6f$886cf180$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> From: "Tim" To: Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:54:49 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at halenet.com.au Subject: converting caps in shell scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:58:24 -0000 Hi All Can anyone suggest a method to convert capitals to lower case in a shell script. I have a radius log that I am trying to convert the usernames to all lower case characters. I am picking up the usernames using a test function which is failing because [ Able = able ] is not performing the query, as one would expect. The rest of the script I am using is written as a shell script and I don't really want to have to rewrite it in perl at present. I have done a man sh, man test etc but can't see anything in there that I can use. Do I need to re write it in perl? TIA Tim From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 01:21:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F67F37B401 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.kiev.sovam.com (relay.kiev.sovam.com [212.109.32.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D751143F85 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 01:21:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dimitry@al.org.ua) Received: from [212.109.32.116] (helo=svitonline.com) by relay.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #5) id 19chXj-000OFs-00; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:21:43 +0300 From: Dmitry Alyabyev To: "Tim" , Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 11:21:43 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <002201c34b6f$886cf180$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <002201c34b6f$886cf180$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> X-NCC-RegID: ua.svitonline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307161121.43321.dimitry@al.org.ua> Subject: Re: converting caps in shell scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: dimitry@al.org.ua List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:21:52 -0000 On Wednesday 16 July 2003 10:54, Tim wrote: > Hi All > > Can anyone suggest a method to convert capitals to lower case in a shell > script. tr [:upper:] [:lower:] -- Dimitry From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 13:25:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C9C37B401 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energistic.com (bdsl.66.12.217.106.gte.net [66.12.217.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4361C43F75 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:25:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@energistic.com) Received: from energistic.com (steve@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by energistic.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6GKPB9f055536 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:25:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve@energistic.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by energistic.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6GKP8Ba053286 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:25:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:25:08 -0500 From: Steve Ames To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030716202508.GA81763@energistic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Bandwidth Limiting Kazaa and friends X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:25:15 -0000 Hey all... I've been using DUMMYNET to limit the bandwidth to certain of my wireless customers. Question came up today: is there a way to bandwidth limit those programs or ports that Kazaa and WinMX and the like use on a system wide basis? Is anyone doing this? I can see a couple of caveats in how the pipes are defined maybe... they part I'm not sure on is which port numbers, etc... to forward to a dummynet pipe. Thoughts? -Steve From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 16:10:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C0637B401 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginsberg.uol.com.br (ginsberg.uol.com.br [200.221.29.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00A543FBF for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:10:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antonio.torres@newspace.net.br) Received: from thinkpad.newspace.net.br ([200.221.55.15]) by ginsberg.uol.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA21050 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:10:03 -0300 (BRT) Message-Id: <6.0.0.10.0.20030716200236.02ab7df0@mail.newspace.net.br> X-Sender: antonio@mail.newspace.net.br X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.10 (Beta) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:09:13 -0300 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Antonio Torres In-Reply-To: <20030716202508.GA81763@energistic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: Bandwidth Limiting Kazaa and friends X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:10:08 -0000 At 17:25 16/7/2003, you wrote: >Hey all... > >I've been using DUMMYNET to limit the bandwidth to certain of my >wireless customers. Question came up today: > >is there a way to bandwidth limit those programs or ports that Kazaa >and WinMX and the like use on a system wide basis? > >.... Don't use DUMMYNET standalone... use DUMMYNET + src limit !!! put each "client" on a separate pipe *plus* limiting the number of connections 'per client'. Kazaa (and several "download accelerators") make several connections simultaneous..... `man ipfw` helps You on correct sintaxe.... []s Antonio Torres antonio.torres@newspace.net.br From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 18:42:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E01037B401 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A3243F75 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:42:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wfroning@uop.edu) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1FC554C8 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wfroning@uop.edu) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB7B37B401 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx10.uop.edu (mx10.uop.edu [138.9.240.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D1943F75 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wfroning@uop.edu) Received: from unix1.cc.uop.edu (unix1.cc.uop.edu [138.9.1.1]) by mx10.uop.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6H1fsGr083105 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daemon (daemon.uop.edu [10.10.5.70]) by unix1.cc.uop.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h6H1fsJ9021254 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:41:52 -0700 From: Will Froning To: freebsd-isp@lists.freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030716184152.7c5eaeee.wfroning@uop.edu> Organization: OIT, University of the Pacific X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 4.0.1.70432 Subject: 60,000 mailboxes w/ WebAccess X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:42:01 -0000 I have a project floating in the wind for setting up an Alumni mail system with web-access (eventually plugging into a portal solution). The max number of mailboxes would be 60K with 39K initially. So I ask the FreeBSD-ISP community, what would you suggest? Requirements: IMAP/IMAPs POP Web-Access Support 60K users I'm thinking 4 Dell 1750s (2 webmail/portal servers and 2 IMAP/POP/SMTP boxes) and a NetApp backend for the mailstore. What would you suggest for the software? imap-uw? Sendmail/Postfix? I've used squirrelmail and imp. I also saw GatorMail which looked super nice. Any suggestions welcome. Thanks, Will -- Will Froning Unix Sys. Admin. wfroning@uop.edu From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 18:56:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7079237B401 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cultdeadsheep.org (charon.cultdeadsheep.org [80.65.226.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A3743F93 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:56:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheepkiller@cultdeadsheep.org) Received: (qmail 12711 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 01:56:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chuck.cultdeadsheep.org) (192.168.0.12) by goofy.cultdeadsheep.org with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 01:56:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:56:31 +0200 From: Clement Laforet To: Will Froning Message-Id: <20030717035631.6254a8a7.sheepkiller@cultdeadsheep.org> In-Reply-To: <20030716184152.7c5eaeee.wfroning@uop.edu> References: <20030716184152.7c5eaeee.wfroning@uop.edu> Organization: tH3 cUlt 0f tH3 d3@d sH33p X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) X-Face: ._cVVRDn#-2((lnfi^P7CoD4htI$4+#G/G)!w|,}H5yK~%(3-C.JlEYbOjJGFwJkt*7N^%z jYeu[;}]}F"3}l5R'l"X0HbvT^D\Q&%deCo)MayY`);TO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-isp@lists.freebsd.org Subject: Re: 60,000 mailboxes w/ WebAccess X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 01:56:33 -0000 On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:41:52 -0700 Will Froning wrote: Hi will, > What would you suggest for the software? imap-uw? Sendmail/Postfix? > I've used squirrelmail and imp. I also saw GatorMail which looked super > nice. Any suggestions welcome. First of all : use Maildir :) my choice should be : - qmail - vpopmail with LDAP backend - imp (CVS version if you wish to use horde 3.x framework for portal) - courier-imap - perdition if you wish to use IMAP(s)/POP(s) proxy - NTP to avoid bad surprises with NFS/Maildir. regards, clem From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 20:57:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AC437B401 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1961A43F93 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@nxad.com) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C53555422 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@nxad.com) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0892C37B401 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perrin.int.nxad.com (internal.ext.nxad.com [69.1.70.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BFC43FDD for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:57:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@nxad.com) Received: by perrin.int.nxad.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BD0E82105A; Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:57:06 -0700 From: Sean Chittenden To: Clement Laforet Message-ID: <20030717035706.GL24507@perrin.int.nxad.com> References: <20030716184152.7c5eaeee.wfroning@uop.edu> <20030717035631.6254a8a7.sheepkiller@cultdeadsheep.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030717035631.6254a8a7.sheepkiller@cultdeadsheep.org> X-PGP-Key: finger seanc@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3849 3760 1AFE 7B17 11A0 83A6 DD99 E31F BC84 B341 X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Will Froning cc: freebsd-isp@lists.freebsd.org Subject: Re: 60,000 mailboxes w/ WebAccess X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:57:15 -0000 > > What would you suggest for the software? imap-uw? > > Sendmail/Postfix? I've used squirrelmail and imp. I also saw > > GatorMail which looked super nice. Any suggestions welcome. > > First of all : use Maildir :) > > my choice should be : > - qmail > - vpopmail with LDAP backend Bleh. I did the postfix + Maildir + courier + NFS bit for a few years and won't do it again. postfix + cyrus is a much more scalable/reliable/functional/elegant combination (in my experience). cyrus 2.2 has virtual domain support if you need it (have had it in production for about 6mo now). Whether or not you use qmail's a different matter, but I've been down that road before too and won't comment on the topic. > - imp (CVS version if you wish to use horde 3.x framework for portal) > - courier-imap I have about 2K in patches that I had to use to get courier to work reliably with clients and to do what I needed. The code is fugly if you need to patch it. I'd avoid this software like the plague, looking back on it, it seems broken by design and doesn't let local Maildir clients interoperate easily with IMAP clients. > - perdition if you wish to use IMAP(s)/POP(s) proxy cyrus has a scalability scheme called "murder," that seems to work quite well. > - NTP to avoid bad surprises with NFS/Maildir. No need for NFS with cyrus because of murder. postfix + lmtp + cyrus == way I should've done things from the start and am now having to migrate users and am kicking myself along the way. -sc -- Sean Chittenden From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 03:42:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BCB37B401 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bart.LF.net (bart.LF.net [212.9.190.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1436A43F75 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:42:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ms@bart.LF.net) Received: from ms by bart.LF.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 19d6DZ-000KUM-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Do, 17 Jul 2003 12:42:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:42:33 +0200 From: Marc Schoechlin To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030717104233.GA78671@LF.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Ticket-Action: x X-Ticket-Nr: x Sender: Marc Schoechlin Subject: SSH && X11 && JAIL-Environment X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:42:48 -0000 Hi ! I would like to use X11_Forwarding with my Jail-System. I activated X11-Forwarding and restarted my SSHD. Trying to start "xclock" provides me the following result: -- ms@nox:~$ xclock X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). -- A workaround for this is possible with that: -- Client : ssh -R 6000:127.0.0.1:6000 Jail-Host : export DISPLAY=:0.0 Client : xhost +127.0.0.1 Jail-Host : xclock -- How unsecure is this ? This is maybe pretty unsecure - are there better alternatives ? (Maybe also more comfortable solutions ?) Best regards Marc Schoechlin -- Gruss / Best regards | LF.net GmbH | fon +49 711 90074-413 Marc Schoechlin | Ruppmannstr. 27 | fax +49 711 90074-33 ms@LF.net | D-70565 Stuttgart | http://www.lf.net From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 03:48:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB68337B401 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.webize.com.au (gateway.webize.com.au [203.17.1.92]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65B8543F93 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdmn@webize.com.au) Received: (qmail 26023 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 10:43:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmlaptop) (192.168.100.51) by 192.168.100.50 with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 10:43:56 -0000 From: "Carl Morley" To: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:48:03 +1000 Message-ID: <001501c34c50$e6799c10$3364a8c0@cmlaptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: dial-in server mgetty with 128k isdn line and modem X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:48:17 -0000 Hi All, Before I embark on this little project, I just thought I'd check to see if anyone here has any helpful hints / warnings etc. Have set up plenty of 128kbps outward bound connections using external ISDN modems with userland ppp to combine the channels. Now I would like to do it the other way around. That is, set up a dial-in server with an ISDN modem, use mgetty to fire off ppp and do the mppp thing to combine channels and create a 128kbps service (using the usual 2 serial cables attached to the ISDN modem). Any comments or suggestions? Cheers, Carl. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 03:55:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995C937B401 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.droso.net (koala.droso.net [193.162.142.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119FE43F93 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 03:55:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erwin@mail.droso.net) Received: by mail.droso.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F27A432D0E; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:55:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:55:29 +0200 From: Erwin Lansing To: Marc Schoechlin Message-ID: <20030717105529.GG87595@droso.net> References: <20030717104233.GA78671@LF.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BQPnanjtCNWHyqYD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030717104233.GA78671@LF.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 4.8-RC User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SSH && X11 && JAIL-Environment X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:55:31 -0000 --BQPnanjtCNWHyqYD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 12:42:33PM +0200, Marc Schoechlin wrote: > Hi ! >=20 > I would like to use X11_Forwarding with my Jail-System. >=20 > I activated X11-Forwarding and restarted my SSHD. >=20 > Trying to start "xclock" provides me the following result: > -- > ms@nox:~$ xclock > X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. > X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). > -- >=20 > A workaround for this is possible with that: > -- > Client : ssh -R 6000:127.0.0.1:6000 > Jail-Host : export DISPLAY=3D:0.0 > Client : xhost +127.0.0.1 > Jail-Host : xclock > -- >=20 > How unsecure is this ? >=20 > This is maybe pretty unsecure - are there better alternatives ? > (Maybe also more comfortable solutions ?) >=20 Try using "X11UseLocalhost no" in your /etc/sshd_config in the jail. --=20 _._ _,-'""`-._ Erwin Lansing (,-.`._,'( |\`-/| erwin@lansing.dk http://droso.org `-.-' \ )-`( , o o) erwin@FreeBSD.org -bf- `- \`_`"'- --BQPnanjtCNWHyqYD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/FoChqy9aWxUlaZARAiBaAKCDHaoo9ToY5Wq+/NHjrsj4uJsqMwCfa7E1 Ux4vd+FlkZB/sxSkYKI1do0= =g2nF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BQPnanjtCNWHyqYD-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 08:03:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@www.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB0C37B401 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3EA43F85 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A89355465 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E24037B404 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (kennedy.psknet.com [63.171.251.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225AD43F85 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:03:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from pool-141-152-68-216.roa.east.verizon.net ([141.152.68.216] helo=tws) by psknet.com with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.20) id 19dAHf-000CnT-OD for freebsd-isp@lists.freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:03:04 -0400 From: "Troy Settle" To: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:03:08 -0400 Message-ID: <000f01c34c74$88e98af0$0100a8c0@tws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <20030717035706.GL24507@perrin.int.nxad.com> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: 60,000 mailboxes w/ WebAccess X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:03:08 -0000 I've done the Cyrus trip, it was nice, but too complex of a set up. Granted, that was some 4 years ago, perhaps that whole SASL mess has been made to actually work by now. I've done the Qmail/vpopmail trip too, and while it worked and was scalable, by the time you add in things like TLS, SMTP-AUTH, anti-virus, anti-spam, and other things to bring it up to date, it was like running a hack of a hack of a hack. Everything was so inter-dependant on something else, it was next to impossible to upgrade/change any single component without upgrading/replacing everything. Want it to run on a farm? Good luck! For the last few months, I've been using Exim + Courier-IMAP. I chose Exim over postfix mainly because of Exiscan facility and it's ACL configuration. I'm sure that Postfix would work equally well with the addition of something like Amavis. Oh, for webmail, the best I've seen, is Squirrelmail. It's easy to set up (unlike IMP), very attractive (unlike SqWebMail or Twig), and has a plugin facility that makes it trivial to expand functionality of the application (unlike most every other solution out there). I offer my customers both Squirrelmail as a standard, and SqWebMail as a faster alternative. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks http://www.psknet.com 540.994.4254 ~ 866.477.5638 Pulaski Chamber 2002 Small Business Of The Year > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Sean Chittenden > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:57 PM > To: Clement Laforet > Cc: Will Froning; freebsd-isp@lists.freebsd.org > Subject: Re: 60,000 mailboxes w/ WebAccess > > > > > > > What would you suggest for the software? imap-uw? > > > Sendmail/Postfix? I've used squirrelmail and imp. I also saw > > > GatorMail which looked super nice. Any suggestions welcome. > > > > First of all : use Maildir :) > > > > my choice should be : > > - qmail > > - vpopmail with LDAP backend > > Bleh. I did the postfix + Maildir + courier + NFS bit for a few years > and won't do it again. postfix + cyrus is a much more > scalable/reliable/functional/elegant combination (in my experience). > cyrus 2.2 has virtual domain support if you need it (have had it in > production for about 6mo now). > > Whether or not you use qmail's a different matter, but I've been down > that road before too and won't comment on the topic. > > > - imp (CVS version if you wish to use horde 3.x framework > for portal) > > - courier-imap > > I have about 2K in patches that I had to use to get courier to work > reliably with clients and to do what I needed. The code is fugly if > you need to patch it. I'd avoid this software like the plague, > looking back on it, it seems broken by design and doesn't let local > Maildir clients interoperate easily with IMAP clients. > > > - perdition if you wish to use IMAP(s)/POP(s) proxy > > cyrus has a scalability scheme called "murder," that seems to work > quite well. > > > - NTP to avoid bad surprises with NFS/Maildir. > > No need for NFS with cyrus because of murder. postfix + lmtp + cyrus > == way I should've done things from the start and am now having to > migrate users and am kicking myself along the way. > > -sc > > -- > Sean Chittenden > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 11:22:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF0637B401 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vineyard.net (k1.vineyard.net [204.17.195.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB3743FBD for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ericx@vineyard.net) Received: from localhost (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by vineyard.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0174792002 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vineyard.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (king1.vineyard.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 48541-10 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fortiva (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by vineyard.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9536791F78 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <049701c34c8f$f68bd7a0$68c311cc@fortiva> From: "Eric W. Bates" To: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:19:29 -0400 Organization: Vineyard.NET, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS at Vineyard.NET Subject: multi-serial card X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:22:28 -0000 SSB3YW50IHRvIHNldHVwIGEgc2VyaWFsIHBvcnQgY29uc29sZSBzZXJ2ZXIgbXVjaCBhcyBkZXNj cmliZWQgaW4gaHR0cDovL3d3dy5mcmVlYnNkLm9yZy9kb2MvZW5fVVMuSVNPODg1OS0xL2FydGlj bGVzL2NvbnNvbGUtc2VydmVyL2FydGljbGUuaHRtbC4gSSdtIGxvb2tpbmcgZm9yIHJlY29tbWVu ZGF0aW9ucyBmb3IgMTYgcG9ydCBzZXJpYWwgZGV2aWNlcy4NCg0KQ29tdHJvbCBzZWxscyB3aGF0 IGxvb2tzIGxpa2UgYSBuaWNlIGNvbWJvOiBSb2NrZXRQb3J0IElTQSAxNiBhbmQgYSAxVSByYWNr IG1vdW50IGludGVyZmFjZS4gRG9lcyBhbnlvbmUga25vdyB3aGV0aGVyIE1yLiBUcydvJ3Mgb2xk IHJwIGRldmljZSB3aWxsIGRyaXZlIHRoaXMgY2FyZD8gIE9yIGhhdmUgYW5vdGhlciByZWNvbW1l bmRhdGlvbj8NCg0KVGhhbmtzIGZvciB5b3VyIHRpbWUuDQoNCkVyaWMgVy4gQmF0ZXMNCmVyaWN4 QHZpbmV5YXJkLm5ldA== From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 17 14:27:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A5937B401 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flora.securenet.com.au (ns1.isecure.com.au [202.125.0.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F6543F3F for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:27:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from leal.securenet.com.au (leal.isecure.com.au [202.125.0.94] (may be forged))h6HLRVum025732; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:27:31 +1000 Received: (from root@localhost) by leal.securenet.com.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) id h6HLRVlO029409; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:27:31 +1000 (EST) Received: from nodnsquery(10.11.3.10) by leal.securenet.com.au via csmap (V6.0) id srcAAAUOaaC5; Fri, 18 Jul 03 07:27:31 +1000 Received: from vmail.aipo.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) id h6HLRU8L026138; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:27:30 +1000 Received: from stan.aipo.gov.au (wf-151.aipo.gov.au [192.168.1.151]) by vmail.aipo.gov.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h6HLRTZM000632; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:27:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from stan.aipo.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6HLRSjw000264; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:27:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: (from anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h6HLRQ96000263; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:27:26 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh set sender to anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU using -f Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:27:26 +1000 From: Stanley Hopcroft To: "Eric W. Bates" Message-ID: <20030718072720.A224@IPAustralia.Gov.AU> References: <049701c34c8f$f68bd7a0$68c311cc@fortiva> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <049701c34c8f$f68bd7a0$68c311cc@fortiva>; from ericx@vineyard.net on Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 02:19:29PM -0400 cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multi-serial card X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:27:34 -0000 Dear Sir, I am writing to thank you for your letter and say, On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 02:19:29PM -0400, Eric W. Bates wrote: > I want to setup a serial port console server much as described in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/console-server/article.html. > I'm looking for recommendations for 16 port serial devices. > that while I have no experience with the RocketPort euipment, I have had good success with Cyclades cards (an 8 port PCI card in a Dell 350 - with some minor case surgery). The Cyclades cards are well supported (just works [TM]) by FreeBSD and although I have no high speed applications (> 9k6) they happily drive PADs, GSM modems (for SMS delivery from Nagios), consoles of network devices and so on. In addition, Cyclades support open source projects by providing developer support to embed their applications into the Cyclades platforms (TS series of terminal servers I believce). One such application is Ntop. My colleagues use a standalone TS series device as a terminal server for a fleet of headless Sun boxen (they wanted something fast and cheap so the flexibility and power of a FreeBSD based terminal server wasn't necessary). Yours sincerely. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Hopcroft ------------------------------------------------------------------------ '...No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee...' from Meditation 17, J Donne. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 18 09:55:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AD337B401 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psknet.com (kennedy.psknet.com [63.171.251.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA2343F85 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:55:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troy@psknet.com) Received: from dilbert.psknet.com ([63.171.251.35] helo=dilbert) by psknet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19dYVl-0000S0-Df for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:55:13 -0400 From: "Troy Settle" To: Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:52:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5329 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcNNTPq2QI8vR+M6QxeKwp+P16mtGQ== Message-Id: Subject: Reading data from serial port X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:55:15 -0000 Does anyone have a script (perl or shell) that can read data from a serial port (1200/8n2)? I thought that something as simple as this would work, but it doesn't seem to do the trick: #!/bin/sh cat /dev/ttyd0 | while read line ; do ...; done TIA, -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks http://www.psknet.com 540.994.4254 ~ 866.477.5638 Pulaski Chamber 2002 Small Business Of The Year