Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:08:37 +0200
From:      Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>
To:        Tom Samplonius <tom@sdf.com>
Cc:        Westbay Family <westbay@seaple.icc.ne.jp>, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: keytool and Tomcat https under 1.4.1
Message-ID:  <20030323100837.GI740@starjuice.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.10303221337560.26390-100000@misery.sdf.com>
References:  <516F9055-5BFE-11D7-A432-000A9575BE46@seaple.icc.ne.jp> <Pine.BSF.4.05.10303221337560.26390-100000@misery.sdf.com>

next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
On (2003/03/22 13:43), Tom Samplonius wrote:

>   Disable the port's silly startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, and use
> Tomcat's own startup script startup.sh in the bin directory.  See the
> Tomcat install docs.

As clarified in follow-up from the original poster, this wasn't the
cause of the problem. :-)

>   In many cases, "ports" of Java applications is needless.  The binary is
> cross-platform already.  And wrapping the app in a undocumented
> propietary startup script isn't helping anyone.  Most people are going to
> better off downloading the Tomcat binary from http://jakarta.apache.org
> than using the FreeBSD port.  Just untar it, and run startup.sh.

While it's true that many ports of Java applications don't need to do
anything more than unpack a tarball into the correct location, ports are
still useful because they

a) make it very easy to locate and install software, e.g.

	cd /usr/ports/devel/jakarta-ant && make install clean

b) cause packages to be built by the packaging system, for possible
   inclusion on FreeBSD release media.

I believe that the second of these two will become critical to the
success of FreeBSD as an enterprise server platform.  I've been touting
absence of Oracle and Java support as the two biggest threats to FreeBSD
for a while now, even without a solid understanding of the Java
platforms. :-)

Basically, we need to get to the stage where FreeBSD release kits
constitute (amongst other things) two things:

a) a "cheap'n'easy" J2EE application server, and
b) a "cheap'n'easy" Java development environment.

Ciao,
Sheldon.

To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message




Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20030323100837.GI740>