From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 03:00:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D033E37B401 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 03:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20809.mail.yahoo.com (web20809.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BDA744034 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 03:00:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelcfish@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030706100034.94270.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [220.104.28.110] by web20809.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Jul 2003 03:00:34 PDT Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 03:00:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Fish To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Winbook X4/PSM0 Not Functioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 10:00:35 -0000 Dear friends, I am having mouse problems on my laptop. I have done a clean install of 5.1R on a Winbook X4, Pent 4-M, 512MB RAM. Everything went fine except the touchpad mouse does not work. This is a FreeBSD problem as the touchpad works fine under Win XP. I have changed "hint.psm.0.flags" within /boot/device.hints following advice from the FreeBSD web site and related resources but nothing has helped. I thought the problem might be with 5.1R but 4.8R has the same problem. If I boot with ACPI enabled or disabled seems to make no difference. This is really frustrating as I cannot use my mouse and thus also cannot use the PC. I have tried all possible combinations of mouse protocols and ports via the sysinstall utility; nothing has worked. While booting in verbose mode I get the following message from DMESG: psmcpnp0 irq 12 on acpi0 psm0: current command byte:0065 psm0: the aux port is not functioning (2). If someone could please offer advice as to how I may fix my problem, I would be extremely happy. :) Regards, Michael Fish --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 08:24:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A9A37B404 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beastie.mine.nu (182.120.62.81.dial.bluewin.ch [81.62.120.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6416344020 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 08:24:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mu@beastie.mine.nu) Received: from beastie.mine.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beastie.mine.nu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h66FKgpb000377; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:20:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mu@beastie.mine.nu) Received: (from mu@localhost) by beastie.mine.nu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h66FKgKR000376; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:20:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 17:20:42 +0200 From: Lars To: Kevin Oberman Message-ID: <20030706152042.GA347@gmx.at> References: <20030705094301.GB404@gmx.at> <20030705171924.22B655D07@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030705171924.22B655D07@ptavv.es.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thinkpad slicing and boot managing X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 15:24:55 -0000 Oh ok, thank you for your comments and corrections, I'll change my config accordingly. On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 10:19:24AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 11:43:02 +0200 > > From: Lars > > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 18:56:20 +0200 > > From: Lars > > > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 07:23:56PM +1000, Pisut Tempatarachoke wrote: > > Hi Pisut, > > > > I bought a Thinkpad R40 and did something similar. > > 1 Yes, FAT32 or FAT16 can be written and read from both > > WinXP and FreeBSD. > > 2 I installed the FreeBSD Bootmanager in the MBR and > > I can boot both FreeBSD and WinXP flawlessly; > > however the WinXP entry shows up in the bootloader > > as "???", but works anyway -so no sweat. > > That's because the basic C/H/S MBR for BootEasy does not know what > NTFS is. If you use boot0cfg to build a boot with the "-o packet" > option, it should show that slice correctly. That option also allows > you to boot FreeBSD from the second or third slice even if it is past > cyl. 1024. > > The only reason that this is not the default is that really old > hardware only supports CHS addressing in BIOS and can't boot with the > newer code. The IBM is far too new to have this problem. > > > 4 My XF86Config works alright, no 3D though and could/should > > be optimised further, I also have 14" screen (1024x768). > > > > Section "ServerLayout" > > Identifier "XFree86 Configured" > > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > > InputDevice "MouseTP" "CorePointer" > > InputDevice "KeyboardTP" "CoreKeyboard" > > EndSection > > > > Section "Files" > > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > > ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > > EndSection > > > > Section "Module" > > Load "dbe" > > Load "dri" > > Load "extmod" > > Load "glx" > > Load "pex5" > > Load "record" > > Load "xie" > > Load "xtrap" > > Load "speedo" > > Load "type1" > > EndSection > > For XFree86 V4.3, I think you really want 'Load freetype"'. Also, pex5 > and xie are no longer modules, so these just produce errors. > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "KeyboardTP" > > Driver "keyboard" > > Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > > Option "XkbModel" "pc101" > > Option "XkbLayout" "de_CH" > > EndSection > > Of course, the XkbLayout option needs to be changed if you don't want > Swiss-German. > > > Section "DRI" > > Mode 0666 > > EndSection > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "MouseTP" > > Driver "mouse" > > Option "Protocol" "MouseSystems" > > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > > EndSection > > With any XFree86 V4, you probably want to set the protocol to > "auto". It's far more likely to work well. > > > Section "Monitor" > > Identifier "MonitorTP" > > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > > ModelName "Monitor Model" > > HorizSync 28.0 - 50.0 > > VertRefresh 43.0 - 75.0 > > EndSection > > For most LCDs, the X software will "read" the BIOS for information on > the scan rates, so this is usually not important. > > > Section "Device" > > ### Available Driver options are:- > > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > > ### [arg]: arg optional > > #Option "NoAccel" # [] > > #Option "SWcursor" # [] > > #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] > > #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] > > #Option "ForcePCIMode" # [] > > #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] > > #Option "CPusecTimeout" # > > #Option "AGPMode" # > > #Option "AGPSize" # > > #Option "RingSize" # > > #Option "BufferSize" # > > #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] > > #Option "CrtScreen" # [] > > #Option "PanelSize" # [] > > #Option "UseFBDev" # [] > > Identifier "CardTP" > > Driver "ati" > > VendorName "ATI" > > BoardName "Radeon Mobility M6 LY" > > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > > EndSection > > > > Section "Screen" > > Identifier "Screen0" > > Device "CardTP" > > Monitor "MonitorTP" > > DefaultDepth 24 > > SubSection "Display" > > Depth 1 > > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > > Depth 4 > > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > > Depth 8 > > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > > Depth 15 > > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > > Depth 16 > > EndSubSection > > SubSection "Display" > > Depth 24 > > Modes "1024x768" "800x600" > > EndSubSection > > EndSection > > The A31p support 1600x1200, so you will want to adjust the "Modes" to > allow that. > -- > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) > Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 11:57:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF7B37B401 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cecov.masternet.it (cecov.masternet.it [194.184.65.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F9143FF5 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:57:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from usul.scotty.masternet.it (freebsd.giovannelli.com [194.184.65.139]) by cecov.masternet.it (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h66J24Tm005218 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 21:02:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20030706204804.02493a08@194.184.65.4> X-Sender: gmarco@194.184.65.7 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 20:57:17 +0200 To: mobile@freebsd.org From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: lucent modem ? where it is ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 18:57:10 -0000 I have a Fujitsu-Siemens lifebook, which I upgraded buying a minipci combo (wireless + modem) instead of modem only which was delivered by default. Everything works fine under winxp (sigh) while on FreeBSD the modem is not seen by the latest ltmdm port (the wifi card works great :-).... Here is the output of the pciconf -l -v (it seems a little bit strange because I was not able to find the modem itself) : chip0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x113b10cf chip=0x35758086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82830[MP] Host-Hub I/F Bridge / SDRAM Controller' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI agp0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x113c10cf chip=0x35778086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82830M/MG Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA none0@pci0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x113c10cf chip=0x35778086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82830M/MG Integrated Graphics Device' class = display uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x113d10cf chip=0x24828086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801CA/CAM (ICH3-S/ICH3-M) USB Controller #1' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x113d10cf chip=0x24848086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801CA/CAM (ICH3-S/ICH3-M) USB Controller #2' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib1@pci0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24488086 rev=0x42 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801BAM/CAM (ICH2/3) PCI to I/O Hub Bridge (2448)' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x248c8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801CAM LPC Interface or ISA bridge: see Notes' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x113d10cf chip=0x248a8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801CAM (ICH3-M) UltraATA/100 EIDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA none1@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x113d10cf chip=0x24838086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801CA/CAM (ICH3-S/ICH3-M) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus pcm0@pci0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x117710cf chip=0x24858086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801CA/CAM (ICH3-S/ICH3-M) AC'97 Audio Controller' class = multimedia subclass = audio none2@pci0:31:6: class=0x070300 card=0x10d110cf chip=0x24868086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801CA/CAM (ICH3-S/ICH3-M) AC'97 Modem Controller' class = simple comms rl0@pci1:9:0: class=0x020000 card=0x111c10cf chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RT8139 (A/B/C/8130) Fast Ethernet Adapter' class = network subclass = ethernet pcic0@pci1:10:0: class=0x060700 card=0x10e610cf chip=0x69331217 rev=0x02 hdr=0x02 vendor = 'O2 Micro Inc' device = 'OZ6933 CardBus Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-CardBus pcic1@pci1:10:1: class=0x060700 card=0x10e610cf chip=0x69331217 rev=0x02 hdr=0x02 vendor = 'O2 Micro Inc' device = 'OZ6933 CardBus Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-CardBus none3@pci1:12:0: class=0x0c0010 card=0x116210cf chip=0x8026104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = 'TSB43AB21 1394a-2000 OHCI PHY/link-layer Controller' class = serial bus subclass = FireWire none4@pci1:13:0: class=0x028000 card=0x116910cf chip=0x38731260 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intersil Americas Inc (Was: Harris Semiconductor)' device = 'PRISM 2.5 802.11b 11Mbps Wireless Controller' class = network Thanks for any help. Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.gufi.org/~gmarco From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 11:59:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF1E37B401 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DC343FE9 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 11:59:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: from lerlaptop.lerctr.org (lerlaptop.lerctr.org [207.158.72.14]) (authenticated bits=0)h66IxD2V011623; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:59:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 13:59:13 -0500 From: Larry Rosenman To: Gianmarco Giovannelli , mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <49300000.1057517953@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030706204804.02493a08@194.184.65.4> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030706204804.02493a08@194.184.65.4> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0b3 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: Re: lucent modem ? where it is ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 18:59:20 -0000 It isn't a lucent. I have a LifeBook C-6651, and I believe the modem is a Conexant HSF modem. No port to FreeBSD as far as I know. LER --On Sunday, July 06, 2003 20:57:17 +0200 Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > I have a Fujitsu-Siemens lifebook, which I upgraded buying a minipci > combo (wireless + modem) instead of modem only which was delivered by > default. Everything works fine under winxp (sigh) while on FreeBSD the > modem is not seen by the latest ltmdm port (the wifi card works great > :-).... > > Here is the output of the pciconf -l -v (it seems a little bit strange > because I was not able to find the modem itself) : > > chip0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x113b10cf chip=0x35758086 rev=0x04 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82830[MP] Host-Hub I/F Bridge / SDRAM Controller' > class = bridge > subclass = HOST-PCI > agp0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x113c10cf chip=0x35778086 rev=0x04 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82830M/MG Integrated Graphics Device' > class = display > subclass = VGA > none0@pci0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x113c10cf chip=0x35778086 rev=0x00 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82830M/MG Integrated Graphics Device' > class = display > uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x113d10cf chip=0x24828086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801CA/CAM (ICH3-S/ICH3-M) USB Controller #1' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x113d10cf chip=0x24848086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801CA/CAM (ICH3-S/ICH3-M) USB Controller #2' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > pcib1@pci0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24488086 rev=0x42 > hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801BAM/CAM (ICH2/3) PCI to I/O Hub Bridge (2448)' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-PCI > isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x248c8086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801CAM LPC Interface or ISA bridge: see Notes' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-ISA > atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x113d10cf chip=0x248a8086 > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801CAM (ICH3-M) UltraATA/100 EIDE Controller' > class = mass storage > subclass = ATA > none1@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x113d10cf chip=0x24838086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801CA/CAM (ICH3-S/ICH3-M) SMBus Controller' > class = serial bus > subclass = SMBus > pcm0@pci0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x117710cf chip=0x24858086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801CA/CAM (ICH3-S/ICH3-M) AC'97 Audio Controller' > class = multimedia > subclass = audio > none2@pci0:31:6: class=0x070300 card=0x10d110cf chip=0x24868086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801CA/CAM (ICH3-S/ICH3-M) AC'97 Modem Controller' > class = simple comms > rl0@pci1:9:0: class=0x020000 card=0x111c10cf chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' > device = 'RT8139 (A/B/C/8130) Fast Ethernet Adapter' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > pcic0@pci1:10:0: class=0x060700 card=0x10e610cf chip=0x69331217 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x02 vendor = 'O2 Micro Inc' > device = 'OZ6933 CardBus Controller' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-CardBus > pcic1@pci1:10:1: class=0x060700 card=0x10e610cf chip=0x69331217 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x02 vendor = 'O2 Micro Inc' > device = 'OZ6933 CardBus Controller' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-CardBus > none3@pci1:12:0: class=0x0c0010 card=0x116210cf chip=0x8026104c rev=0x00 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' > device = 'TSB43AB21 1394a-2000 OHCI PHY/link-layer Controller' > class = serial bus > subclass = FireWire > none4@pci1:13:0: class=0x028000 card=0x116910cf chip=0x38731260 rev=0x01 > hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intersil Americas Inc (Was: Harris > Semiconductor)' device = 'PRISM 2.5 802.11b 11Mbps Wireless > Controller' > class = network > > Thanks for any help. > > > Best Regards, > Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" > http://www.gufi.org/~gmarco > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 12:09:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C367737B404 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cecov.masternet.it (cecov.masternet.it [194.184.65.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59C844033 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:09:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from usul.scotty.masternet.it (freebsd.giovannelli.com [194.184.65.139]) by cecov.masternet.it (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h66JETTm005270; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 21:14:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20030706210013.04f9a210@194.184.65.7> X-Sender: gmarco@194.184.65.7 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 21:09:42 +0200 To: Larry Rosenman , mobile@freebsd.org From: Gianmarco Giovannelli In-Reply-To: <49300000.1057517953@lerlaptop.lerctr.org> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030706204804.02493a08@194.184.65.4> <5.2.1.1.2.20030706204804.02493a08@194.184.65.4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: lucent modem ? where it is ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 19:09:33 -0000 At 06/07/2003, Larry Rosenman wrote: >It isn't a lucent. I have a LifeBook C-6651, and I believe the modem is a >Conexant HSF modem. > >No port to FreeBSD as far as I know. No, I suppose it is a lucent because winxp identified as: Lucent Technologies Soft Modem Amr In the id hardware identification it is detailed as: PCI VEN 8086 & DEV 2486 & SUBSYS_10D110CF & REV_02 The modem AT command reports: ATI3 Lucent SoftModem Version 3.1.106 ATI4 Built on 12/18/2001 17:42:45 ATI5 3.1.106 AMR Intel MB.AC97 ID:SIL REV:0x27.08 ATI7 AMR Intel MB Resources under Winxp: I/O Range: 1400 - 14FF I/O Range: 1800 - 187F IRQ: 11 I have a lifebook S :-) Thanks for your reply. Best Regards, Gianmarco Giovannelli , "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.gufi.org/~gmarco From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 12:15:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9B537B401 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp02.fuse.net (mx4.fuse.net [216.68.1.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912F143FEC for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:15:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistry.7@osu.edu) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([216.196.154.234]) by smtp02.fuse.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030706191551.GGRH21610.smtp02.fuse.net@[192.168.1.100]>; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:15:51 -0400 From: Anish Mistry To: Gianmarco Giovannelli Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 15:16:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030706204804.02493a08@194.184.65.4> <5.2.1.1.2.20030706210013.04f9a210@194.184.65.7> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030706210013.04f9a210@194.184.65.7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307061516.39013.mistry.7@osu.edu> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lucent modem ? where it is ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 19:15:53 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 06 July 2003 03:09 pm, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > At 06/07/2003, Larry Rosenman wrote: > >It isn't a lucent. I have a LifeBook C-6651, and I believe the modem i= s a > >Conexant HSF modem. > > > >No port to FreeBSD as far as I know. >=20 > No, I suppose it is a lucent because winxp identified as: > Lucent Technologies Soft Modem Amr >=20 > In the id hardware identification it is detailed as: > PCI VEN 8086 & DEV 2486 & SUBSYS_10D110CF & REV_02 >=20 > The modem AT command reports: > ATI3 Lucent SoftModem Version 3.1.106 > ATI4 Built on 12/18/2001 17:42:45 > ATI5 3.1.106 AMR Intel MB.AC97 ID:SIL REV:0x27.08 > ATI7 AMR Intel MB >=20 > Resources under Winxp: > I/O Range: 1400 - 14FF > I/O Range: 1800 - 187F > IRQ: 11 >=20 > I have a lifebook S :-) The lucent modems in the lifebooks isn't compatible with the lucent modem=20 port. I'm assuming it's the same modem as my P-2110, which doesn't have an= y=20 non-windows drivers since lucent won't release specs, or make one themselve= s. =2D --=20 Anish Mistry =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/CHWVxqA5ziudZT0RAk3dAJoCEjrg5P7abWAEFs8lNt9X5IDA0wCgx307 ughspfpp7iS6UtdTYNgDLWI=3D =3DDnoi =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 12:48:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B527837B401 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3896C43FE3 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 12:48:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garycor@comcast.net) Received: from comcast.net (pcp04279996pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net[68.39.103.49](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20030706194823014000cj7ve> (Authid: garycor); Sun, 6 Jul 2003 19:48:23 +0000 Message-ID: <3F087D18.8DB38864@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 15:48:40 -0400 From: Gary Corcoran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gianmarco Giovannelli References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030706204804.02493a08@194.184.65.4> <5.2.1.1.2.20030706210013.04f9a210@194.184.65.7> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lucent modem ? where it is ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 19:48:25 -0000 Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > > No, I suppose it is a lucent because winxp identified as: > Lucent Technologies Soft Modem Amr > > In the id hardware identification it is detailed as: > PCI VEN 8086 & DEV 2486 & SUBSYS_10D110CF & REV_02 > > The modem AT command reports: > ATI3 Lucent SoftModem Version 3.1.106 > ATI4 Built on 12/18/2001 17:42:45 > ATI5 3.1.106 AMR Intel MB.AC97 ID:SIL REV:0x27.08 > ATI7 AMR Intel MB Seems you got a "soft modem", which really isn't a modem, but only a codec (analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog converters). The rest is done by (windows) software. Your Pentium is responsible for doing all the work that the DSP of a regular modem does, and so you don't just need a "driver" in the usual sense. Which is why the normal Lucent driver won't work, and why you can't just "get specs" to drive it. In other words, the "driver" has to contain full Digital Signal Processing code (plus the usual driver code) to send/receive all the complex audio tones that a modem handles (in real-time, of course). This is so the manufacturer could save a couple of dollars (instead of buying the real modem chip)... Gary From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 13:06:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8178337B401 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E46744030 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:06:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marks@ripe.net) Received: from laptop.6bone.nl (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.9/8.11.6) with SMTP id h66K6dRS017679; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:06:40 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 3588 invoked by uid 1000); Sun, 06 Jul 2003 20:06:39 -0000 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:06:39 +0200 From: Mark Santcroos To: Gary Corcoran Message-ID: <20030706200638.GD664@laptop.6bone.nl> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030706204804.02493a08@194.184.65.4> <5.2.1.1.2.20030706210013.04f9a210@194.184.65.7> <3F087D18.8DB38864@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F087D18.8DB38864@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Handles: MS6-6BONE, MS18417-RIPE cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lucent modem ? where it is ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 20:06:44 -0000 On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 03:48:40PM -0400, Gary Corcoran wrote: > Seems you got a "soft modem", which really isn't a modem, but > only a codec (analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog converters). > The rest is done by (windows) software. Your Pentium is responsible > for doing all the work that the DSP of a regular modem does, and so > you don't just need a "driver" in the usual sense. Which is why the > normal Lucent driver won't work, and why you can't just "get specs" > to drive it. In other words, the "driver" has to contain full > Digital Signal Processing code (plus the usual driver code) to > send/receive all the complex audio tones that a modem handles (in > real-time, of course). This is so the manufacturer could save a > couple of dollars (instead of buying the real modem chip)... Your story is true, but doesn't really address the issue. What was meant by "the Lucent driver" (see ports/comms/ltmdm) is a driver for (some of) the ISA/PCI type Lucent softmodems. It is not suited for this type of system (AMR/AC97) (yet). Whether the same driver could be made suitable easily is something I don't know without looking more at it. (Depends on whether it is the same codec probably) Mark -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 20:08:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843A337B401 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 20:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atropos.snu.ac.kr (atropos.snu.ac.kr [147.46.106.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01B743F93 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 20:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from redjade@atropos.snu.ac.kr) Received: from atropos.snu.ac.kr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atropos.snu.ac.kr (8.12.8p1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h6737sDd020553; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:07:55 +0900 (KST) Received: (from redjade@localhost) by atropos.snu.ac.kr (8.12.8p1/8.12.7/Submit) id h6737soE020552; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:07:54 +0900 (KST) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:07:54 +0900 From: Kyunghwan Kim To: Charles Owens Message-ID: <20030707030754.GA20455@atropos.snu.ac.kr> References: <3F0437D8.9000103@enc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F0437D8.9000103@enc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Peter Losher cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86 core dumps on Inspiron 5100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 03:08:25 -0000 On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 02:04:08PM +0000, Charles Owens wrote: > An update... I've now got XFree86 (4.3.0_8 on FreeBSD 4.8-stable) > complaining much less. The only remaining error message is, like you > show in your log message: > > (WW) RADEON(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum > > plus the last informational line looks like a big problem. > > (II): RADEON(0): Panel Size from BIOS: 65535x65535 > > Then, it core dumps. > > > I've closely followed the DRI intsructions from > http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri > Am I right that this is the only way to get a driver for the Radeon > card? (as opposed to something not DRI/DRM-related) > > When I get some more time I'll post my XF86Config and the full xfree86 > log... > > Has anyone had any luck with XFree86 4.3.0 with a Radeon Mobility M7 > video card? Or, more specifically, on a Dell Inspiron 5100 or similar. Are you using agp-enabled kernel? Panel size mis-probing is caused by omitted suppport for agp bridge. I'm not sure what kind of agp bridge your Dell inspiron use but if it is i82855 or i82875, you will need agp_intel.c revision 1.17 But it is not yet MFCed. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/pci/agp_intel.c -- Kyunghwan Kim redjade@atropos.snu.ac.kr From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 21:36:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 71E6537B422; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 21:36:55 -0700 (PDT) To: hackers@freebsd.org, mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 21:36:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20030707043655.71E6537B422@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) Subject: MCT USB<->RS232 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 04:36:55 -0000 While wandering around CompUSA today, I came upon what I consider to be an incredibly useful little device: the Targus USB mobile port replicator with ethernet. This device is basically a multi-port USB hub with a bunch of peripherals attached, including: - PS/2 keyboard port - PS/2 mouse port - parallel printer port - RS-232 serial port - 10/100 ethernet port - Two USB 1.1 ports for any other USB devices you care to use For someone like me, who owns a 'legacy free' laptop that has no parallel or serial ports, or external keyboard/mouse ports, this struck me as a pretty clever idea. When I got it home, I found that almost everything is supported in FreeBSD 5.x, except for one thing: the serial port. The chip is a MCT USB-232 device, which is supported in NetBSD, but not FreeBSD. Not to be denied, I grabbed the umct(4) driver from NetBSD and got it working well enough that I can run userland PPP over it with my US Robotics external 56K modem. (If fact, I'm composing this e-mail over it right now.) It's not perfect. One major problem is that unlike all the other USB serial devices, this one provides incoming data via the interrupt endpoint instead of the bulk IN endpoint. Somehow in NetBSD, both the ucom(4) support module and the driver itself are able to read from the interrupt endpoint, but this trick doesn't work in FreeBSD. Consequently, I had to kludge things up to stuff data into the terminal device from the umct(4) driver's interrupt pipe handler. This is messy, but it works. It anyone else wants to use this driver, you can download it from: http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/MCT/mct.tar.gz To use it, download the tarball, then do the following: # cd /sys # cat /path/to/mct.tar.gz | gzip -d | tar -xvf - # cd modules/umct # make; make install; make load You need the ucom(4) module loaded as well. I'm not going to commit this yet because there's one thing I haven't been able to test, which is that I'm not sure how this device is supposed to signal changes in the modem status register. It's supposed to signal changes via the interrupt pipe, but I don't see how that can work if the interrupt pipe is also being used for incoming data. There's no easy way for me to figure it out either since I have no datasheet for this chip. In the meantime, I consider this useful enough that I should make it available for others who might have a USB<->RS232 adapter with the same chip. Share and enjoy! -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems ============================================================================= "If stupidity were a handicap, you'd have the best parking spot." ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 23:18:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A23337B401; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cyberonic.com (mail.cyberonic.com [4.17.179.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E4F43FBD; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:18:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (node-40244c0a.sfo.onnet.us.uu.net [64.36.76.10]) by mail.cyberonic.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h676hbMa026083; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 02:43:38 -0400 Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.12.9/8.11.6) id h676JCka061832; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:19:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:19:12 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Bill Paul Message-ID: <20030707061912.GB44762@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Bill Paul , hackers@freebsd.org, mobile@freebsd.org References: <20030707043655.71E6537B422@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030707043655.71E6537B422@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MCT USB<->RS232 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 06:18:57 -0000 Bill Paul wrote this message on Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 21:36 -0700: > When I got it home, I found that almost everything is supported in > FreeBSD 5.x, except for one thing: the serial port. The chip is a > MCT USB-232 device, which is supported in NetBSD, but not FreeBSD. > > Not to be denied, I grabbed the umct(4) driver from NetBSD and got > it working well enough that I can run userland PPP over it with my Anything wrong with umct in -current? (scottl commited it just 9 days ago.) Or is this a different driver that is not compatible? -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 23:55:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 7FDAB37B401; Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:55:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20030707061912.GB44762@funkthat.com> from John-Mark Gurney at "Jul 6, 2003 11:19:12 pm" To: gurney_j@efn.org (John-Mark Gurney) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 23:55:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20030707065557.7FDAB37B401@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MCT USB<->RS232 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 06:55:57 -0000 > Bill Paul wrote this message on Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 21:36 -0700: > > When I got it home, I found that almost everything is supported in > > FreeBSD 5.x, except for one thing: the serial port. The chip is a > > MCT USB-232 device, which is supported in NetBSD, but not FreeBSD. > > > > Not to be denied, I grabbed the umct(4) driver from NetBSD and got > > it working well enough that I can run userland PPP over it with my > > Anything wrong with umct in -current? (scottl commited it just 9 days > ago.) Or is this a different driver that is not compatible? Argh. Yes, this is the same device. And yes, Scott's driver is much nicer than the monstrosity I created. I need to update my local copy of the -current USB code more often. :/ Ah well. At least now this port expander is fully supported. -Bill From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 00:17:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C122A37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 00:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EAE43F93 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 00:17:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marks@ripe.net) Received: from laptop.6bone.nl (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.9/8.11.6) with SMTP id h677H0RS009215; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:17:00 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 1362 invoked by uid 1000); Mon, 07 Jul 2003 07:17:00 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:17:00 +0200 From: Mark Santcroos To: Gary Corcoran Message-ID: <20030707071700.GB672@laptop.6bone.nl> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030706204804.02493a08@194.184.65.4> <5.2.1.1.2.20030706210013.04f9a210@194.184.65.7> <3F087D18.8DB38864@comcast.net> <20030706200638.GD664@laptop.6bone.nl> <3F0887CC.A518607C@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F0887CC.A518607C@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Handles: MS6-6BONE, MS18417-RIPE cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lucent modem ? where it is ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 07:17:05 -0000 On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 04:34:20PM -0400, Gary Corcoran wrote: > Um, no, as far as I know, there is only the ltmdm driver for the Lucent > "winmodem"s, NOT the "softmodem"s. There is a huge difference. Winmodems > are only missing the "controller" CPU, so its functions are handled by > the ltmdm driver. The ltmdm driver does NOT do the DSP functions, they > are handled by the ISA/PCI modem chips. If there is a difference between soft- and winmodems then I stand corrected. I always assumed ltmdm also handled the DSP functions. Mark -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 00:46:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B24B37B401; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 00:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE5343F75; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 00:46:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h677kcdP022373; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:46:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 01:46:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030707.014628.18704844.imp@bsdimp.com> To: wpaul@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030707043655.71E6537B422@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20030707043655.71E6537B422@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MCT USB<->RS232 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 07:46:40 -0000 In message: <20030707043655.71E6537B422@hub.freebsd.org> wpaul@freebsd.org (Bill Paul) writes: : When I got it home, I found that almost everything is supported in : FreeBSD 5.x, except for one thing: the serial port. The chip is a : MCT USB-232 device, which is supported in NetBSD, but not FreeBSD. But Scott Long already committed his umct driver a few days ago... :-) Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 03:46:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9E237B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 03:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AB943FA3 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 03:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marks@ripe.net) Received: from laptop.6bone.nl (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.9/8.11.6) with SMTP id h67AkARS029591; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:46:10 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 3349 invoked by uid 1000); Mon, 07 Jul 2003 10:46:10 -0000 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:46:10 +0200 From: Mark Santcroos To: Eric Masson Message-ID: <20030707104610.GH672@laptop.6bone.nl> References: <86vfv1833q.fsf@notbsdems.interne.kisoft-services.com> <20030622135125S.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <86n0g93k3i.fsf@notbsdems.interne.kisoft-services.com> <20030623080416.GJ31020@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <8665mvvlv0.fsf@notbsdems.interne.kisoft-services.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8665mvvlv0.fsf@notbsdems.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Handles: MS6-6BONE, MS18417-RIPE cc: Stijn Hoop cc: Harald Hanche-Olsen cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell 4150 & ACPI-0293: *** Warning: Buffer created with zero length in AML X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 10:46:12 -0000 On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:57:39AM +0200, Eric Masson wrote: > Stijn> MKS2D.EXE worked for me. > > Nope here, I've tried different setups yesterday (Partition, file, > different sizes) but acpiconf -s 4 makes the machine get to the bios > suspend routine and then it complains about size or partition not found. I had to start from a totally empty disk. Doing it after other partitions where created didn't work out. What I did was that I first experimented with a scratch disk untill I was sure about the sequence and then did it with my real disk. Mark -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 04:34:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779D737B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.wurldlink.net [66.193.144.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF24743FCB for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:34:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (vince@localhost.WURLDLINK.NET [127.0.0.1]) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h67BXGYx035679 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:33:18 -1000 (HST) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost)h67BXFts035676 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:33:15 -1000 (HST) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 01:33:15 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Mailing List FreeBSD Mobile In-Reply-To: <20030625220035.GA48890@graf.pompo.net> Message-ID: <20030707013115.O3146-100000@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Dell Inspiron 8200 & ACPI-0293 [was Re: Dell 4150 & ACPI-0293: *** Warning: Buffer created with zero length in AML] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 11:34:12 -0000 Hello everyone: I guess by now, we all know that to close the lid without suspending is to sysctl hw.acpi.lid_switch_state=NONE but the other question is, is there a workaround in rebooting the machine with shutdown -r now so that the machine reboots instead of turning off when the lid is closed? Thanks. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 06:47:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC28E37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 06:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC96043FBD for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 06:47:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no (239.80-203-45.nextgentel.com [80.203.45.239]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with SMTP id A1A99786BB for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:47:16 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:47:13 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: mobile@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030707154713.7f19593e.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.8) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq;m"_0v;~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Using IrDA "dongles" with FreeBSD 4-stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 13:47:20 -0000 Hello, I have this IrDA "dongle" (it connects via usb) from KC Technology, Inc. It is called KC-180, and would be perfect for giving an old Toshiba laptop (which will be running FreeBSD 4.8-stable) an IrDA port. (BTW, Linux seems to have support for this, but I could not find any more information about the workings of this dongle.) My idea is to use the birda port to "talk" through this dongle to a mobile phone. However, when I connect the dongle to a machine running 4.8-stable, here is what the log says: "Jun 26 23:41:58 machine /kernel: ugen0: KC Technology, Inc. KC-180 USB IrDA Device, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2" If I want birda to talk to it, doesn't it have to act as a serial port? Or am I mistaken? After some searching, I'm left with some questions; - do we have support for IrDA dongles (which connects through usb) in FreeBSD at all? - will birda talk to this dongle even if FreeBSD doesn't see it as a serial port? - does anybody have more information that might help me to get this working? I have searched bot the net and Google groups, but haven't found any useful information yet. Any help appreciated. -- Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 08:08:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A25D37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B536743F3F for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:08:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garycor@comcast.net) Received: from comcast.net (pcp04279996pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net[68.39.103.49](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2003070620340301500cho4me> (Authid: garycor); Sun, 6 Jul 2003 20:34:03 +0000 Message-ID: <3F0887CC.A518607C@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2003 16:34:20 -0400 From: Gary Corcoran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Santcroos References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030706204804.02493a08@194.184.65.4> <5.2.1.1.2.20030706210013.04f9a210@194.184.65.7> <20030706200638.GD664@laptop.6bone.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lucent modem ? where it is ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:08:12 -0000 Mark Santcroos wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 03:48:40PM -0400, Gary Corcoran wrote: > > Seems you got a "soft modem", which really isn't a modem, but > > only a codec (analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog converters). > > The rest is done by (windows) software. Your Pentium is responsible > > for doing all the work that the DSP of a regular modem does, and so > > you don't just need a "driver" in the usual sense. Which is why the > > normal Lucent driver won't work, and why you can't just "get specs" > > to drive it. In other words, the "driver" has to contain full > > Digital Signal Processing code (plus the usual driver code) to > > send/receive all the complex audio tones that a modem handles (in > > real-time, of course). This is so the manufacturer could save a > > couple of dollars (instead of buying the real modem chip)... > > Your story is true, but doesn't really address the issue. > > What was meant by "the Lucent driver" (see ports/comms/ltmdm) is a driver > for (some of) the ISA/PCI type Lucent softmodems. Um, no, as far as I know, there is only the ltmdm driver for the Lucent "winmodem"s, NOT the "softmodem"s. There is a huge difference. Winmodems are only missing the "controller" CPU, so its functions are handled by the ltmdm driver. The ltmdm driver does NOT do the DSP functions, they are handled by the ISA/PCI modem chips. > It is not suited for this type of system (AMR/AC97) (yet). > Whether the same driver could be made suitable easily is something I don't > know without looking more at it. (Depends on whether it is the same codec > probably) Gary From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 10:14:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 618) id 854DF37B401; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:14:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20030707.014628.18704844.imp@bsdimp.com> from "M. Warner Losh" at "Jul 7, 2003 01:46:28 am" To: imp@bsdimp.com (M. Warner Losh) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:14:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20030707171405.854DF37B401@hub.freebsd.org> From: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG (Bill Paul) cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MCT USB<->RS232 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:14:05 -0000 > In message: <20030707043655.71E6537B422@hub.freebsd.org> > wpaul@freebsd.org (Bill Paul) writes: > : When I got it home, I found that almost everything is supported in > : FreeBSD 5.x, except for one thing: the serial port. The chip is a > : MCT USB-232 device, which is supported in NetBSD, but not FreeBSD. > > But Scott Long already committed his umct driver a few days ago... :-) > > Warner > Yes, so I have been told. :P And guess what. It has a bug. :) Well ok, to be fair, it doesn't really have a bug: it lacks a workaround for a buggy chip. The driver determines the bulk output buffer size by checking the data returned by the chip in its bulk out endpoint descriptor. This is right in most cases, but not for the USB_PRODUCT_MCT_SITECOM_USB232 device (which, unfortunately, is what they put in the port replicator I bought). The value it returns for wMaxPacketSize is 32, but in reality, you must use 16. If you don't, the chip drops data under certain circumstances. A good example: attach a modem to the serial adapter and set up a PPP link over it, then try to ssh to a remote host somewhere. Ssh will get about halfway through the connection attempt and then hang. I observed a similar problem with my IRC client. It turns out the NetBSD driver that I hacked up worked because it has a workaround for this chip bug. I applied a similar workaround to Scott's driver and now PPP works again. Here's a patch: --- umct.c.orig Thu Jul 3 18:50:39 2003 +++ umct.c Mon Jul 7 00:52:55 2003 @@ -241,7 +241,10 @@ if (UE_GET_DIR(ed->bEndpointAddress) == UE_DIR_OUT) { ucom->sc_bulkout_no = ed->bEndpointAddress; - ucom->sc_obufsize = UGETW(ed->wMaxPacketSize); + if (uaa->product == USB_PRODUCT_MCT_SITECOM_USB232) + ucom->sc_obufsize = 16; /* device is broken */ + else + ucom->sc_obufsize = UGETW(ed->wMaxPacketSize); continue; } This is almost literally what NetBSD does. Barring any objections, I'd like to check this in. (CC'ing Scott on this e-mail.) -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (510) 749-2329 | Senior Engineer, Master of Unix-Fu wpaul@windriver.com | Wind River Systems ============================================================================= "If stupidity were a handicap, you'd have the best parking spot." ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 10:21:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2DA37B404 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mho.com (smtp.mho.net [64.58.4.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0B4443FAF for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 10:21:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 97239 invoked by uid 1002); 7 Jul 2003 17:21:07 -0000 Received: from adsl-64-58-12-196.mho.net (HELO freebsd.org) (64.58.12.196) by smtp.mho.net with SMTP; 7 Jul 2003 17:21:07 -0000 Message-ID: <3F09AC10.4010401@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 11:21:20 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Paul References: <20030707171405.854DF37B401@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20030707171405.854DF37B401@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG cc: "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: MCT USB<->RS232 driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:21:12 -0000 Bill Paul wrote: >>In message: <20030707043655.71E6537B422@hub.freebsd.org> >> wpaul@freebsd.org (Bill Paul) writes: >>: When I got it home, I found that almost everything is supported in >>: FreeBSD 5.x, except for one thing: the serial port. The chip is a >>: MCT USB-232 device, which is supported in NetBSD, but not FreeBSD. >> >>But Scott Long already committed his umct driver a few days ago... :-) >> >>Warner >> > > > Yes, so I have been told. :P > > And guess what. It has a bug. :) > > Well ok, to be fair, it doesn't really have a bug: it lacks a workaround > for a buggy chip. The driver determines the bulk output buffer size > by checking the data returned by the chip in its bulk out endpoint > descriptor. This is right in most cases, but not for the > USB_PRODUCT_MCT_SITECOM_USB232 device (which, unfortunately, is what > they put in the port replicator I bought). The value it returns for > wMaxPacketSize is 32, but in reality, you must use 16. If you don't, > the chip drops data under certain circumstances. A good example: attach > a modem to the serial adapter and set up a PPP link over it, then try > to ssh to a remote host somewhere. Ssh will get about halfway through > the connection attempt and then hang. I observed a similar problem > with my IRC client. > > It turns out the NetBSD driver that I hacked up worked because it has > a workaround for this chip bug. I applied a similar workaround to Scott's > driver and now PPP works again. Here's a patch: > > --- umct.c.orig Thu Jul 3 18:50:39 2003 > +++ umct.c Mon Jul 7 00:52:55 2003 > @@ -241,7 +241,10 @@ > > if (UE_GET_DIR(ed->bEndpointAddress) == UE_DIR_OUT) { > ucom->sc_bulkout_no = ed->bEndpointAddress; > - ucom->sc_obufsize = UGETW(ed->wMaxPacketSize); > + if (uaa->product == USB_PRODUCT_MCT_SITECOM_USB232) > + ucom->sc_obufsize = 16; /* device is broken */ > + else > + ucom->sc_obufsize = UGETW(ed->wMaxPacketSize); > continue; > } > > This is almost literally what NetBSD does. Barring any objections, I'd > like to check this in. (CC'ing Scott on this e-mail.) > Bill, Excellent, feel free to commit this. I remember seeing this workaround, but since I didn't have the device that it applied to I must have dropped the code by accident. Scott From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 12:30:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1F637B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0D643F93 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:30:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ZbgI-0000Lj-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:29:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Zbfu-0000K8-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:29:22 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:30:03 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <3F05E851.1020201@linuxpowered.com> <20030705131934.29f53fd4.plate@gol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: wireless card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:30:35 -0000 Ulrich Plate wrote: > Jon Disnard wrote: > >> You will do well with any card that is based on the PRISM2 chip set. >> To see a list of cards that support the Prism2 silicon, see the wi(4) >> man page. As it happens, your choice of the Netgear ma401 is a prism2 >> card, and supports the ability to become an AP, and has a jack for an >> external antenna. >> >> Avoid the Lucent cards like plauge. They are of major suck. > > This may well be true, but funny as it seems, I'm having no trouble > whatsoever with my Lucent Silver card in getting it to work inside my > WEP setup, while the Netgear MA401 refuses to acknowledge the keys (and > DHCP times out because of that). I've asked about this a few weeks ago, > but the only remedy suggested back then didn't solve it... I'd certainly > appreciate if someone could look over this again and tell me where I go > wrong. I have 'ifconfig_wi0="DHCP"' in rc.conf and a start_if.wi0 that > goes '/sbin/ifconfig ssid XXXXX wepmode on weptxkey 3 wepkey 1:XXXXX > 2:XXXXX 3:XXXXX 4:XXXXX'. Manually assigning an IP address doesn't work, Is that a hex key, or a text key? You should ALWAYS use hex keys for maximum portability. I can't use text keys and WEP at all with my AP. > either, and a third card I've tested, an equally Prism2-based Planex > GW-CF11H, has identical problems. > > TIA > Ulrich Plate -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 12:45:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA6F37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA15143F85 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 12:45:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Zbuk-0001SN-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:44:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Zbui-0001Rx-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:44:40 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 15:45:20 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:45:26 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > I've decided it's time for a new laptop. In the past I've been > relatively happy with Dell, but their web site is driving me to > distraction (want info about Latitudes? Tell them you have a home > office and they'll give you Inspiron instead). Questions to you: > > 1. Which brand? IBM, if you can afford it. > 2. Which model? I hear the T series has pretty good battery life. I personally have an A30p. Battery life sucks (1 hr avg), but I've got good power (1.2Ghz PIII), 1600x1200, and an excellent keyboard. I got mine used for $1,350 on ebay. Everything but the winmodem works with FreeBSD, including firewire and 802.11b wireless. > > I use laptops when travelling and for presentations. For the former I > want long battery life and high resolution (preferably 1600x1200). > For the latter I need something that will feed run-of-the-mill data > projectors at 1024x768 and with enough grunt to run an increasingly > lethargic Acrobat Reader without noticeable delay. My A30p has TV out and an external VGA port. Projectors are no problem. Lots of grunt too, but again, crap battery life. T series is good for battery life. However, the larger the screen, the shorter the battery life. > I'm suspicious of > the new wide screen versions because of potential problems with the > data projectors; I'm suspicious because I don't think I'd get the same # of square inches on a wide screen model. I think it's a marketing trick. 17 inches of wide screen isn't the same # of square inches as 17 inches of a normal aspect ratio. > if people can allay these concerns, I'd be quite > happy to have a wide-screen model. I also want a keyboard which I can > remap and a touchpad which works; a third mouse button would, of > course, be a good idea. Thinkpad's trackpoint shows up as a normal PS/2 mouse. Three buttons. Fully working keyboard. Even the sound volume control works as it's hardware based. Mute is slick. :) -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 13:42:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B6437B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zephir.primus.ca (mail.tor.primus.ca [216.254.136.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972D843FA3 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leth@lethargic.dyndns.org) Received: from dialin-157-37.tor.primus.ca ([216.254.157.37] helo=lethargic.dyndns.org) by zephir.primus.ca with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.36 #3) id 19Zco7-0003Jj-0A; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 16:41:56 -0400 Received: from lethargic.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lethargic.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h67KgJTm059213; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:42:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leth@lethargic.dyndns.org) Received: (from leth@localhost) by lethargic.dyndns.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h67KflZa059212; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:41:47 -0400 From: Jason Hunt To: Jon Disnard Message-ID: <20030707204147.GA59055@lethargic.dyndns.org> References: <3F05E851.1020201@linuxpowered.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F05E851.1020201@linuxpowered.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Alexey Koptsevich cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wireless card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:42:10 -0000 On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:49:21PM -0500, Jon Disnard wrote: > Avoid the Lucent cards like plauge. They are of major suck. What's so bad about Lucent cards? I've been using them for the last couple of years w/o any big issues. I'll admit that I've not tried anything other than Lucent (ie: Cisco/Prism), but I don't see what is wrong with them. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 16:52:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DEB37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.slb.com (nammta01.sugar-land.nam.slb.com [163.188.150.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A54043F85 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:52:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mailsrv@mail.slb.com) Received: from nammta01.sugar-land.nam.slb.com by nammta01.sugar-land.nam.slb.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) id <0HHO00E01I1KD4@nammta01.sugar-land.nam.slb.com> for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:46:32 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:46:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Internet Mail Delivery Sender: mailsrv@mail.slb.com To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <0HHO00E03I1KD4@nammta01.sugar-land.nam.slb.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:52:31 -0000 This report relates to a message you sent with the following header fields: Received: from PACHA (arc1-176b.mhk.kansas.net [158.247.201.176]) by nammta01.sugar-land.nam.slb.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HHO00ABAI05ZL@nammta01.sugar-land.nam.slb.com> for hristov@slb.com; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:46:31 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:45:49 +0500 From: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Movie To: hristov@slb.com Message-id: <0HHO00ABDI07ZL@nammta01.sugar-land.nam.slb.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_12s8kk/BFfiWh0xQKby6rA)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients: Recipient address: To: hristov@slb.com Reason: "POSSIBLE VIRUS DETECTED" VIRUS SUSPECTED: W32/Sobig-E From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 17:37:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E306B37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26F843FAF for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6856B5267F; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:07:49 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:07:49 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Jesse Guardiani Message-ID: <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MAH+hnPXVZWQ5cD/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 00:37:56 -0000 --MAH+hnPXVZWQ5cD/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday, 7 July 2003 at 15:45:20 -0400, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> I've decided it's time for a new laptop. In the past I've been >> relatively happy with Dell, but their web site is driving me to >> distraction (want info about Latitudes? Tell them you have a home >> office and they'll give you Inspiron instead). Questions to you: >> >> 1. Which brand? > > IBM, if you can afford it. They're not overly expensive. >> 2. Which model? > > I hear the T series has pretty good battery life. I had a T22 until about a year ago. The battery life was terrible, much worse than my Inspiron 7500. > I personally have an A30p. Battery life sucks (1 hr avg), The T22 was better than that, about 2 hours. > but I've got good power (1.2Ghz PIII), 1600x1200, and an excellent > keyboard. I got mine used for $1,350 on ebay. I don't like the keyboard. As I say below,=20 >> I also want a keyboard which I can remap and a touchpad which >> works; a third mouse button would, of course, be a good idea. I was thinking specifically of the T22 when I wrote that: the bottom left key is Fn, and you can't remap it. Is that different on your machine? Also, the T22 only had this damn silly eraser head "mouse". >> I use laptops when travelling and for presentations. For the former I >> want long battery life and high resolution (preferably 1600x1200). >> For the latter I need something that will feed run-of-the-mill data >> projectors at 1024x768 and with enough grunt to run an increasingly >> lethargic Acrobat Reader without noticeable delay. > > My A30p has TV out and an external VGA port. Projectors are no > problem. The T22 has a feature which looks like a bug: it has separate video for the external output and the LCD screen. Although I was working at IBM at the time, we weren't able to get it to display the same thing on both screens, but I always used my Dell for presentations. I hear they've since fixed the problem. With the correct software, this feature could be quite nice (display the presentation on the projector and an annotated version on the LCD), but I don't know of any such software. > Lots of grunt too, but again, crap battery life. T series is good for > battery life. However, the larger the screen, the shorter the battery > life. Grunt doesn't seem to be the problem nowadays. Hot laps might be. >> I'm suspicious of the new wide screen versions because of potential >> problems with the data projectors; > > I'm suspicious because I don't think I'd get the same # of square inches > on a wide screen model. I think it's a marketing trick. 17 inches of wide > screen isn't the same # of square inches as 17 inches of a normal aspect > ratio. Basically it comes down to the number of pixels. It's nice to have two normal-width xterms side by side. >> if people can allay these concerns, I'd be quite happy to have a >> wide-screen model. I also want a keyboard which I can remap and a >> touchpad which works; a third mouse button would, of course, be a >> good idea. > > Thinkpad's trackpoint shows up as a normal PS/2 mouse. The trackpoint is ugly. I won't buy a laptop with it. But I think the newer Thinkpads also have a touchpad. > Three buttons. Yes, that's an advantage. > Fully working keyboard. Nope, see my complaints. Is that different on your model? Anyway, I've bought an Inspiron 5100, which looks like being a reasonable compromise. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --MAH+hnPXVZWQ5cD/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/ChJdIubykFB6QiMRAlDlAJ0SAUPJ2uoRain+fASx817AjoXfoACgrZjW r2Wa7DR7nHm8VDsIuqYSe5c= =pKcP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MAH+hnPXVZWQ5cD/-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 18:06:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E7E37B404 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2105243FAF for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 19Zgw1-0007WH-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:06:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 21:06:21 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030708010621.GA22675@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:06:25 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey probably said: > The T22 was better than that, about 2 hours. I get between 2 and 3.5 hours on the small internal battery of my X30 while using wireless, which is what I got (if I was lucky) with the huge 3x battery on my previous Z505. > The T22 has a feature which looks like a bug: it has separate video > for the external output and the LCD screen. Although I was working at > IBM at the time, we weren't able to get it to display the same thing > on both screens, but I always used my Dell for presentations. Same thing in both places on my X30. > The trackpoint is ugly. I won't buy a laptop with it. But I think > the newer Thinkpads also have a touchpad. Depends on preference, some people like trackpoints. I'm somewhat ambivilent about points or pads at now. 3 mouse buttons is certainly nice. > Nope, see my complaints. Is that different on your model? I have yet to see a Fn key that you can remap on any laptop. It works fully for me. P. -- pir pir-sig@pir.net pir-sig@net.tufts.edu From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 18:11:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A5637B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6081443FA3 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:11:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D96451A9D; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:41:13 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:41:13 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030708011113.GE7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708010621.GA22675@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7LkOrbQMr4cezO2T" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030708010621.GA22675@pir.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:11:17 -0000 --7LkOrbQMr4cezO2T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 7 July 2003 at 21:06:21 -0400, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey probably said: >> Nope, see my complaints. Is that different on your model? > > I have yet to see a Fn key that you can remap on any laptop. Correct. But some laptops have the Fn key in a different place. > It works fully for me. I don't understand what you mean. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --7LkOrbQMr4cezO2T Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/ChoxIubykFB6QiMRAi6iAKCo5fponBJyyBZ6aeCKRaAKGvlHqQCdFV5X 59Kbm9BSwIXSVwU7yZtK0ww= =LqbB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7LkOrbQMr4cezO2T-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 18:24:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FCD37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E4943FAF for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:24:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 19ZhD7-0007eH-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:24:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 21:24:01 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030708012401.GC22675@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708010621.GA22675@pir.net> <20030708011113.GE7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030708011113.GE7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:24:02 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey probably said: > Correct. But some laptops have the Fn key in a different place. and your point is ... If your preference is for a Fn key elsewhere either deal with it or don't buy an IBM. Claiming it is not fully functional because you can't remap it when no other machines will let you remap it anyway is kinda pointless. > > It works fully for me. > I don't understand what you mean. You said, in massage id <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com>; >> Fully working keyboard. > Nope, see my complaints. Is that different on your model? Responding "Nope" to "Fully working keyboard" says to me that you are claiming that they keyboard does not work fully. I do not see anything that does not work fully (including the suspend/hibernate functions, volume, mute, contrast, keyboard light, etc) on my X30 under BSD. Your complaints were; > I don't like the keyboard. > I was thinking specifically of the T22 when I wrote that: the bottom > left key is Fn, and you can't remap it. Is that different on your > machine? Also, the T22 only had this damn silly eraser head "mouse". So your complaints were that you don't like trackpoints and you don't like a Fn key in the bottom left corner. Neither of these preferences prevent the keyboard from working fully. I wasn't overly thrilled with either when I got the machine, but I've become used to both. If you meant something else that prevents it working then please explain. P. -- pir pir-sig@pir.net pir-sig@net.tufts.edu From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 18:51:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B4D37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.de.maildelivery.de (mail.de.maildelivery.de [217.172.32.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B604043F93 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:51:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from universe@truemetal.org) Received: (qmail 31649 invoked by alias); 8 Jul 2003 01:51:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pc2.mystic.org) (217.224.27.12) by mail.de.maildelivery.de with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 01:51:41 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 03:47:39 +0200 From: Markus Stalder To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20030708034739.08367a17.universe@truemetal.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i386-portbld-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 5.1-RELEASE on Acer 507T - install failures X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:51:43 -0000 I'm trying to install 5.1-RELEASE on my Acer 507T notebook - without success. I'm using the boot floppies for installation. As soon as mfsroot was read and the kernel is booting the system just hangs after the following output. atapci0: port 0x8000-0x800f at device 7.1 on pci0 "boot" or "boot -v" made no difference in the output at this specific point of the boot process. The notebook was running just fine with 4.4 to 4.7-STABLE. Any suggestions? Thx Markus From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 19:59:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AEE37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C656543FBD for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:59:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6EBB51A9D; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:29:47 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:29:47 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030708025947.GG24420@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708010621.GA22675@pir.net> <20030708011113.GE7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708012401.GC22675@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QWpDgw58+k1mSFBj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030708012401.GC22675@pir.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 02:59:51 -0000 --QWpDgw58+k1mSFBj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 7 July 2003 at 21:24:01 -0400, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey probably said: >> Correct. But some laptops have the Fn key in a different place. > > and your point is ... As I said, I don't want a keyboard with the Fn key in the bottom left, because I can't remap it. > If your preference is for a Fn key elsewhere either deal with it "deal with it". Why on earth should I "deal with it" when I have an alternative? > or don't buy an IBM. Yes, that's what I did. > Claiming it is not fully functional because you can't remap it when > no other machines will let you remap it anyway is kinda pointless. On the IBM you can't remap the bottom left key. On Dells you can. That's a distinction which makes me choose Dell over IBM. > So your complaints were that you don't like trackpoints and you > don't like a Fn key in the bottom left corner. Neither of these > preferences prevent the keyboard from working fully. They do for my requirements. On Dell laptops I can have an Alt key on the bottom left. On IBM, I can't. > I wasn't overly thrilled with either when I got the machine, but > I've become used to both. Sure, you can get used to anything. But when choosing a new machine, it makes sense to pay attention to your requirements. > If you meant something else that prevents it working then please > explain. No, that's enough. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --QWpDgw58+k1mSFBj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/CjOjIubykFB6QiMRAtteAJ0afKdevRraxyQ0Tsli+XjxNSYT6ACgoNq2 aJl+N7jT6wj4STA7X+0S1/k= =+dDJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QWpDgw58+k1mSFBj-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 20:04:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38C837B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F43343F85 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:04:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 19ZimO-0000U9-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:04:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 23:04:32 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030708030432.GE22675@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708010621.GA22675@pir.net> <20030708011113.GE7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708012401.GC22675@pir.net> <20030708025947.GG24420@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030708025947.GG24420@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:04:34 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey probably said: > "deal with it". Why on earth should I "deal with it" when I have an > alternative? Oookaay. > On the IBM you can't remap the bottom left key. On Dells you can. > That's a distinction which makes me choose Dell over IBM. That isn't a reason that they IBM keyboard is not fully functional. It's a _preference_. On a Dell you can't remap wherever the Fn key is, does that make the keyboard non-functional ? Of course not. > They do for my requirements. On Dell laptops I can have an Alt key on > the bottom left. On IBM, I can't. Your requirements, your preferences. Fine, you didn't buy an IBM. None of this means they re not functional for other people. > > If you meant something else that prevents it working then please > > explain. > No, that's enough. Ok, you're just abusing the language. Whatever. *plonk* P. -- pir pir-sig@pir.net pir-sig@net.tufts.edu From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 20:21:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9876D37B404 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp809.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 561B143FBF for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:21:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fscked@pacbell.net) Received: from adsl-66-124-232-155.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO pacbell.net) (fscked@pacbell.net@66.124.232.155 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 03:21:42 -0000 Message-ID: <3F0A3824.3070908@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:19:00 -0700 From: richard childers / kg6hac User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708010621.GA22675@pir.net> <20030708011113.GE7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708012401.GC22675@pir.net> <20030708025947.GG24420@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708030432.GE22675@pir.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:21:45 -0000 I -always- use an external keyboard (and display) with my laptops. I've dumped too many beverages into keyboards not to have learned, the hard way. /-: Once you get into this habit your laptops last longer ... and you can pick any keyboard you want. Keyboards are cheap. Food for thought. -- richard Peter Radcliffe wrote: >Greg 'groggy' Lehey probably said: > > >>"deal with it". Why on earth should I "deal with it" when I have an >>alternative? >> >> > >Oookaay. > > > >>On the IBM you can't remap the bottom left key. On Dells you can. >>That's a distinction which makes me choose Dell over IBM. >> >> > >That isn't a reason that they IBM keyboard is not fully functional. >It's a _preference_. > >On a Dell you can't remap wherever the Fn key is, does that make the >keyboard non-functional ? Of course not. > > > >>They do for my requirements. On Dell laptops I can have an Alt key on >>the bottom left. On IBM, I can't. >> >> > >Your requirements, your preferences. Fine, you didn't buy an IBM. >None of this means they re not functional for other people. > > > >>>If you meant something else that prevents it working then please >>>explain. >>> >>> >>No, that's enough. >> >> > >Ok, you're just abusing the language. Whatever. >*plonk* > >P. > > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 20:26:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C3F37B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD08A43FBF for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:26:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h683QgdP029556; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 21:26:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 21:26:40 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030707.212640.34583015.imp@bsdimp.com> To: leth@primus.ca From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030707204147.GA59055@lethargic.dyndns.org> References: <3F05E851.1020201@linuxpowered.com> <20030707204147.GA59055@lethargic.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: kopts@astro.psu.edu cc: diz@linuxpowered.com cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wireless card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 03:26:56 -0000 In message: <20030707204147.GA59055@lethargic.dyndns.org> Jason Hunt writes: : On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:49:21PM -0500, Jon Disnard wrote: : > Avoid the Lucent cards like plauge. They are of major suck. : : What's so bad about Lucent cards? I've been using them for the last : couple of years w/o any big issues. I'll admit that I've not tried anything : other than Lucent (ie: Cisco/Prism), but I don't see what is wrong with : them. Lucent cards are decent, just that the current driver has some problems... Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 22:42:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D6937B401; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42A743F3F; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:42:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv_fm@mailsent.net) Received: from sdn-ap-005dcwashp0082.dialsprint.net ([63.188.40.82] helo=moo.holy.cow) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19ZlEq-0004zO-00; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 22:42:05 -0700 Received: by moo.holy.cow (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 16384AD7D; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:45:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:45:07 -0400 From: parv To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Message-ID: <20030708054507.GB53041@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , Jesse Guardiani , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> cc: Jesse Guardiani cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 05:42:06 -0000 in message <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com>, wrote Greg 'groggy' Lehey thusly... > > On Monday, 7 July 2003 at 15:45:20 -0400, Jesse Guardiani wrote: > > > > IBM, if you can afford it. > > >> 2. Which model? > > > > I hear the T series has pretty good battery life. > > I had a T22 until about a year ago. The battery life was > terrible, much worse than my Inspiron 7500. > > > I personally have an A30p. Battery life sucks (1 hr avg), > > The T22 was better than that, about 2 hours. Now i don't feel bad w/ 3.5-hour long battery charge for my non-portable Dell Inspiron 5000e. - Parv -- A programmer, budding Unix system administrator, and amateur photographer ISO employment: http://www103.pair.com/parv/work/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 23:27:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD2037B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 23:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD8243F93 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 23:27:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B05A5267F; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:57:02 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:57:02 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: richard childers / kg6hac Message-ID: <20030708062701.GP24420@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708010621.GA22675@pir.net> <20030708011113.GE7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708012401.GC22675@pir.net> <20030708025947.GG24420@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030708030432.GE22675@pir.net> <3F0A3824.3070908@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BnCwdHgQ2ZomtW9r" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F0A3824.3070908@pacbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 06:27:08 -0000 --BnCwdHgQ2ZomtW9r Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 7 July 2003 at 20:19:00 -0700, richard childers / kg6hac wrote: > > I -always- use an external keyboard (and display) with my laptops. It's rather cumbersome in an aeroplane, even if it's a Happy Hacker. > Once you get into this habit your laptops last longer ... and you > can pick any keyboard you want. Keyboards are cheap. That's a different can of worms. They keyboards I buy cost up to $100. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --BnCwdHgQ2ZomtW9r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/CmQ1IubykFB6QiMRAj1DAKC0dgGNW/heQJz2xywvQVDLdcsxgwCffJlq +KXre6cachfeWbwUAmG1aQk= =Vepl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BnCwdHgQ2ZomtW9r-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 23:40:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7775537B401 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 23:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web42001.mail.yahoo.com (web42001.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.169]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0922243FB1 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 23:40:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob_citizen@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030708064030.94536.qmail@web42001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.9.128.171] by web42001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:40:30 PDT Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT) From: t r To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Subject unrelated - help with urgent and frustrating issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 06:40:33 -0000 Hey There Iain, Look, I know this is unrelated to what you do, but I couldn't help but notice that in one of your postings you said that you had the same model notebook that I have and am having problems with now. I have just purchased a second-hand Sony VAIO PCG-R505TFP. I have just formatted the hard disk ready to install Windows XP Pro. Unfortunatly the prior owner no longer had the recovery CD that came with the notebook. So now that I have formatted the hard disk, I don't have a CD with which to install the drivers it requires to operate. I called Sony and they said that they don't offer the drivers for download on the Internet. The only drivers you can download from Sony are update drivers for if you have updated your notebook after you bought it. So basically, I have this bloody expensive, useless, formatted notebook sitting here, that I can't install windows on, simply because Sony is too lazy to put the correct drivers on their website. I'm wondering if we can come to an arrangment whereby I can obtain a copy of your recovery CD with which to fix my notebook. I would be happy to pay you a little bit for your efforts, as well as foot the costs of postage and the CD's required. Please consider taking some time out of your day to help me with this, as I am absolutly desperate and I don't know where else to turn. If you decide to reply to this email, just tell me a resonable price, what you think would be fair for your services. Alternately, if you could make the drivers available for download somewhere, that would be equally appreciated and probably less effort. Thankyou for spending the time to read this, and thanks in advance for any help or advice you decide to give me. - Regards, David --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 00:07:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD85F37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 00:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mako1.telstra.net (mako1.telstra.net [203.50.0.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DD143FAF for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 00:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peterm@telstra.net) Received: from GALAXY (rsdhcp19.telstra.net [203.50.0.213]) by mako1.telstra.net (8.12.9/8.11.1) with SMTP id h6877AKR085890; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:07:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peterm@telstra.net) From: "Peter Marrinon" Sender: "Peter Marrinon" To: "'Markus Stalder'" Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:06:58 +1000 Message-ID: <002c01c3451f$86906aa0$28008590@GALAXY> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <20030708034739.08367a17.universe@truemetal.org> Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: 5.1-RELEASE on Acer 507T - install failures X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:07:12 -0000 That sounds similar to the problem I was having the other day. (see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2003-July/001113.html) By any chance is your CPU being detected with options it doesn't have - for instance hyperthreading (HTT)? I noticed last night that mine is and I know that my CPU does not support hyperthreading. I haven't written any emails to -stable about it yet. Regards, Peter From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 00:24:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A920937B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 00:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3B843F75 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 00:24:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marks@ripe.net) Received: from laptop.6bone.nl (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.9/8.11.6) with SMTP id h687OpRS011726; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:24:51 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 7036 invoked by uid 1000); Tue, 08 Jul 2003 05:56:58 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:56:58 +0200 From: Mark Santcroos To: Michael Collette Message-ID: <20030708055658.GA638@laptop.6bone.nl> References: <200307051413.17691.metrol@metrol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200307051413.17691.metrol@metrol.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Handles: MS6-6BONE, MS18417-RIPE cc: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Time stands still when sleeping X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:24:53 -0000 On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 02:13:17PM -0700, Michael Collette wrote: > When this box goes into sleep mode the system clock does not update. For > example, the time right now is 2:09 here. If I put this in sleep mode for an > hour then wake it up, the laptop thinks it is still 2:09. Try this in your kernel config: device pmtimer -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 01:30:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F43337B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hysteria.spc.org (hysteria.spc.org [195.206.69.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F2CCF43FBD for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:30:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bms@hysteria.spc.org) Received: (qmail 26800 invoked by uid 5013); 8 Jul 2003 08:28:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:28:31 +0100 From: Bruce M Simpson To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030708082831.GB22295@spc.org> Mail-Followup-To: Bruce M Simpson , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Adam Sulmicki Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Adam Sulmicki Subject: Niche interest - viewing SMRAM on T22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:30:29 -0000 Hi, Here's a hack for those who'd like to read the Systems Management Mode memory segment on their ThinkPad T22. The hack described should work for any i440BX chipset based laptop. This is probably only of interest if you like to hack BIOS. This is lifted from some incomplete C code I have for the hack. Using the shell commands described is easier but makes assumptions about the position of the host bridge device on the bus. ---8<--- * It appears as though my ThinkPad does not map SMRAM at the default * location. This isn't too much of a surprise. Firmware is responsible * for reprogramming the default location, and has to issue an SMI * during boot in order to do this. The actual SMI handler code is * located at SMBASE+0x8000. A quick way of issuing the SMI is to use * the on-chip APIC. A number of vendor BIOS do it this way. * * Can we discover if the host bridge remaps SMBASE? Yes. * on the i440BX host bridge, check the SMRAMC register. * * There are two modes: Compatible and Extended SMRAM. Compatible mode * is meant to be backwards compatible with older BIOS PM code. * The C_BASE_SEG bits will tell you where the SMRAM memory * really is. Setting D_OPEN to high will let you get at the SMRAM memory. * * If your VGA controller mapping is active, it would be a good idea not * to use it while you're doing this. * * My ThinkPad's BIOS doesn't set the lock bit. * By poking D_OPEN to 1, I was able to extract the SMRAM segment from * my machine. * # pciconf -r -b pci0:0:0 0x72 * 0a * # pciconf -w -b pci0:0:0 0x72 0x4A * # dd bs=0x1000 skip=0xA0 count=0x20 if=/dev/mem of=./foo * # pciconf -w -b pci0:0:0 0x72 0x0A ---8<--- Ciao! BMS From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 01:31:44 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4050037B404 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4D543F85 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:31:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marks@ripe.net) Received: from laptop.6bone.nl (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.9/8.11.6) with SMTP id h688VfRS027004; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:31:41 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 23530 invoked by uid 1000); Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:31:41 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:31:41 +0200 From: Mark Santcroos To: "Markus D." Message-ID: <20030708083141.GE670@laptop.6bone.nl> References: <20030701193055.GM9463@spc.org> <21034.1057092434@www51.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <21034.1057092434@www51.gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Handles: MS6-6BONE, MS18417-RIPE cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring battery status in X via acpi X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:31:44 -0000 On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 10:47:14PM +0200, Markus D. wrote: > Hm, there really is a /dev/apm, and it IS displaying correct values > (ac-line, battery percentage etc.). Perhaps some sort of "compatibilty mode" ;-) Well, indeed, the /dev/apm while using acpi is just an emulation layer around acpi so that old programs still work. > Gnome battstat just complains about disabled apm, but displays correct > values nevertheless. Does this get rid of the complaints? # apm -e enable -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 03:07:00 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D3A37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 03:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.hotel-accommodation.net (office.hotel-accommodation.net [203.146.154.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCBE943FA3 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 03:06:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cws@miraclenet.co.th) Received: (qmail 62322 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2003 12:23:32 -0000 Received: from localhost.intranet1 (HELO 10.0.0.77) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Jul 2003 12:23:32 -0000 Received: from 10.0.0.31 (SquirrelMail authenticated user cws) by miranda.net0.intranet with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:23:32 +0700 (ICT) Message-ID: <1035.10.0.0.31.1057407812.squirrel@miranda.net0.intranet> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:23:32 +0700 (ICT) From: "Chatchawan Wongsiriprasert" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: New nVidia driver hang if SoftEIDs disable X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:07:00 -0000 Hi, I try new FreeBSD nVidia driver (1.0.4365) on my notebook (FreeBSD 4.8/Satellite Pro 6100/GeForce4 420 Go). The driver seems to work fine except that when I try to disable SoftEIDs (with sysctl hw.nvidia.registry.SoftEDIDs=0) to allow 1400x1050 mode, the driver freeze my notebook. I need to unplug and remove battery to reboot. This method have been worked fine with old 1.0-3203 driver. I check the document and found nothing that mention the change in SoftEDIDs from 3203 to 4365. Does anyone found the same problem as me? I wonder that this is the problem to my notebook or nVidia chip in general. Regards, Chatchawan Wongsiriprasert From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 04:01:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A83037B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alvin.unc.edu.ar (alvin.unc.edu.ar [170.210.248.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE5943FA3 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:01:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from meschoyez@gtwing.efn.uncor.edu) Received: from gtwing.efn.uncor.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alvin.unc.edu.ar (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h68B14K12680 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:01:05 -0300 Received: from lcd (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gtwing.efn.uncor.edu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h68BPVF20903; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:25:31 -0300 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:04:33 -0300 (ART) From: Maxi X-Sender: meschoyez@lcd.efn.uncor.edu To: Markus Stalder , mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030708034739.08367a17.universe@truemetal.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: 5.1-RELEASE on Acer 507T - install failures X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 11:01:20 -0000 Hi, -> I'm trying to install 5.1-RELEASE on my Acer 507T notebook - without -> success. I'm using the boot floppies for installation. As soon as -> mfsroot was read and the kernel is booting the system just hangs after -> the following output. -> -> atapci0: port 0x8000-0x800f at device -> 7.1 on pci0 -> -> "boot" or "boot -v" made no difference in the output at this specific -> point of the boot process. The notebook was running just fine with 4.4 -> to 4.7-STABLE. I had the same problem. Look at the Acer database at http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ and looks for my notebook entry (507DX). There is the solution I found to this problem. Cheers, o M@X From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 04:11:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5F337B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.de.maildelivery.de (mail.de.maildelivery.de [217.172.32.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA14F43FA3 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from universe@truemetal.org) Received: (qmail 15028 invoked by alias); 8 Jul 2003 11:11:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pc2.mystic.org) (217.226.127.19) by mail.de.maildelivery.de with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 11:11:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:07:23 +0200 From: Markus Stalder To: Maxi Message-Id: <20030708130723.07edf10c.universe@truemetal.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20030708034739.08367a17.universe@truemetal.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5 (GTK+ 1.2.8; i386-portbld-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.1-RELEASE on Acer 507T - install failures X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 11:11:28 -0000 On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:04:33 -0300 (ART) Maxi wrote: > I had the same problem. Look at the Acer database at > http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/ > > and looks for my notebook entry (507DX). There is the solution I found > to this problem. Awesome, Maxi! That made the trick... thanks alot! Markus From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 04:16:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076B137B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alvin.unc.edu.ar (alvin.unc.edu.ar [170.210.248.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6E943FB1 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 04:16:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from meschoyez@gtwing.efn.uncor.edu) Received: from gtwing.efn.uncor.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alvin.unc.edu.ar (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h68BG5C13558 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:16:06 -0300 Received: from lcd (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gtwing.efn.uncor.edu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h68BeY721243; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:40:34 -0300 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:19:36 -0300 (ART) From: Maxi X-Sender: meschoyez@lcd.efn.uncor.edu To: Markus Stalder In-Reply-To: <20030708130723.07edf10c.universe@truemetal.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.1-RELEASE on Acer 507T - install failures X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 11:16:11 -0000 I spent almost a week searching for the answer. I wanna know if you have the sound working. I didn't find the solution for sound problem (hangs the kernel) :-( Cheers, o M@X From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 05:17:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC8437B401; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C10D43FA3; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 05:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h68CH7dP032631; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 06:17:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 06:17:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030708.061705.59083918.imp@bsdimp.com> To: grog@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030708062701.GP24420@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20030708030432.GE22675@pir.net> <3F0A3824.3070908@pacbell.net> <20030708062701.GP24420@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 12:17:10 -0000 I'm very happy with my Casio Fiva MPC-205 in terms of portability. Its 600MHz transmeta cpu is a little slow, and I use an external keyboard for long hacking sessions, but it is one of the few laptops that fit easily on a tray table in coach in the US domestic flights... With 7 hours of battery life with the extended life battery, I just wish they (a) had a newer model and (b) were more readily available in the US. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 08:54:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DA637B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458FF43FAF for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:54:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from diz@linuxpowered.com) Received: from linuxpowered.com (12-238-50-170.client.attbi.com[12.238.50.170](untrusted sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <200307081554370150099dh3e> (Authid: jdisnard); Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:54:37 +0000 Message-ID: <3F0AE924.2070206@linuxpowered.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:54:12 -0500 From: Jon Disnard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <3F05E851.1020201@linuxpowered.com> <20030707204147.GA59055@lethargic.dyndns.org> <20030707.212640.34583015.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20030707.212640.34583015.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: kopts@astro.psu.edu cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wireless card X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 15:54:41 -0000 M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20030707204147.GA59055@lethargic.dyndns.org> > Jason Hunt writes: > : On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:49:21PM -0500, Jon Disnard wrote: > : > Avoid the Lucent cards like plauge. They are of major suck. > : > : What's so bad about Lucent cards? I've been using them for the last > : couple of years w/o any big issues. I'll admit that I've not tried anything > : other than Lucent (ie: Cisco/Prism), but I don't see what is wrong with > : them. > > Lucent cards are decent, just that the current driver has some > problems... Yes this is true, and I should have been more correct originally. I meant that the cards are of major suck because of driver weirdness, and the lack of hostap mode. Although, I'm still frustrated with the if_wi.c but not as frustrated as i look at the HCF code. Given the above, i tell people to forget their cards based on the Hermes chips (lucent, orinoco, etc), and go with atheros or intersil based card. -Jon From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 08:56:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4094A37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kant.infometrics.net (209-202-22-9.mts.net [209.202.22.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FA8243F85 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sharedlogic.ca) Received: (qmail 71343 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 15:12:23 -0000 Received: from brnd-126-130-biz1.mts.net (HELO hitman.sharedlogic.ca) (206.45.126.130) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 15:12:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 1239 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2003 15:29:06 -0000 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:29:05 -0500 From: mike@sharedlogic.ca To: FreeBSD-mobile@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030708152905.GA1214@hitman> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-mobile@FreeBSD.org References: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030703011407.GM29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 15:56:32 -0000 On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:44:07AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > 1. Which brand? > 2. Which model? I purchased a Dell Inspiron 8200 about eleven months ago. Here are the specs that might interest you: * Intel P4 1.7GHz 512K L2 cache * BIOS revision A06 (original) * 512M/40G * NVIDIA GeForce4 440 Go * Ultrasharp UXGA display * 3c905-TX/TX-M * Matshita CDRW/DVD * track point and pad; two buttons I've been tracking 4-STABLE (and dual-booting Red Hat versions) from the start. No problems beyond my own goofs. I avoided upgrading the BIOS for various reasons, and I've never had fan/heat problems that some claim. Dell replaced the drive for me--no hassle--five months after purchase, when it started clunking. > I use laptops when travelling and for presentations. For the former I > want long battery life and high resolution (preferably 1600x1200). The NVIDIA card works fine with the FBSD NVIDIA port--I get 1600x1200 as advertised. > ... > happy to have a wide-screen model. I also want a keyboard which I can > remap and a touchpad which works; a third mouse button would, of > course, be a good idea. I've remapped some keys, but haven't tried the Fn (sorry, I don't use it much). Hope that's useful. -- Michael J. Forster, B.Sc., Software Engineer, Shared Logic Inc. mike @ sharedlogic.ca, www.sharedlogic.ca/mjf.html From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 10:26:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D0837B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEAA43F75 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:26:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from metrol@metrol.net) Received: from adsl-67-121-60-9.dsl.anhm01.pacbell.net (adsl-67-121-60-9.dsl.anhm01.pacbell.net [67.121.60.9]) h68HQJ8o119344; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:26:20 -0400 From: Michael Collette To: Mark Santcroos Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:22:47 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <200307051413.17691.metrol@metrol.net> <20030708055658.GA638@laptop.6bone.nl> In-Reply-To: <20030708055658.GA638@laptop.6bone.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307081022.34261.metrol@metrol.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Mailing Lists Subject: Re: Time stands still when sleeping X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 17:26:22 -0000 On Monday 07 July 2003 10:56 pm, Mark Santcroos wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 02:13:17PM -0700, Michael Collette wrote: > > When this box goes into sleep mode the system clock does not update. For > > example, the time right now is 2:09 here. If I put this in sleep mode > > for an hour then wake it up, the laptop thinks it is still 2:09. > > Try this in your kernel config: > device pmtimer By gosh, that was it! Thanks! Later on, -- "Always listen to experts. They'll tell you what can't be done, and why. Then do it." - Robert A. Heinlein From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 11:21:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE29037B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.hotbox.ru (smtp.hotbox.ru [80.68.244.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB7543F85 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:21:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from a_garkov@newmail.ru) Received: from newmail.ru ([194.85.9.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.hotbox.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h68I9ERS024137 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:09:14 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from a_garkov@newmail.ru) Message-ID: <3F0B0B92.4040200@newmail.ru> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:21:06 +0400 From: Garkovenko Alexey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; ru-RU; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030630 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, ka MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: =?koi8-r?b?KMLF2iDUxc3ZKQ==?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: a_garkov@newmail.ru List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:21:12 -0000 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 14:20:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D5B37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 14:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1tx.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260A743FA3 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 14:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from relcos1.cos.agilent.com (relcos1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.239]) by msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6AC1B13 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:20:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by relcos1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4925FAF for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:20:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id OAA25861 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 14:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200307082120.OAA25861@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:07:49 +0930." <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:20:07 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Darryl Okahata List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:20:11 -0000 "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" wrote: > > I hear the T series has pretty good battery life. > > I had a T22 until about a year ago. The battery life was terrible, > much worse than my Inspiron 7500. My previous laptop was an Inspiron 7500, and my current one is an IBM A31 (also w/1400x1050 LCD). The battery life for both of these felt comparable (~1.5-2 hrs, with my usage habits), but I haven't done any hard measurements. The IBM might have a tad longer life, but I'm not sure. [ The IBM A31 has the advantage of being able to accept a second, additional battery, without having to sacrifice the CDRW/DVD drive. ] > > but I've got good power (1.2Ghz PIII), 1600x1200, and an excellent > > keyboard. I got mine used for $1,350 on ebay. > > I don't like the keyboard. As I say below,=20 The keyboard and mouse are a matter of personal taste. Some people hate 'em, some people love 'em. Personally, I'd rate the IBM A31's keyboard feel as being slightly better than that of the Inspiron 7500. The keyboard layout, on the other hand, is slightly better on the 7500; on the A31, the Esc key is directly above F1, which drives me batty. I've forgotten where Esc is on the 7500, but I don't think it was in such an annoying location (for me). The IBM's Fn key has never bothered me, as I very, very rarely use it (I just swap Caps Lock and left Ctrl). Having used both touchpad and eraserhead mice, they both have pros and cons, and it's probably a matter of personal choice which one people like. Before I got my Inspiron 7500, I had some Toshiba laptop w/eraserhead. When I switched to the 7500, the touchpad drove me crazy until I got used to it. With the A31, I'm back to an eraserhead, which bothered me at first. The point is that, if you're used to one, switching to the other may take some time. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 15:16:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5800737B405 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from koa.aloha.com (koa.aloha.com [206.127.224.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAB343FA3 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:16:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from knowtree@aloha.com) Received: from webmail.pixi.com (webmail.pixi.com [206.127.224.121]) by koa.aloha.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id h68MFtmT016507; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:15:56 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <200307082215.h68MFtmT016507@koa.aloha.com> To: "M. Warner Losh" From: knowtree@aloha.com Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:12:09 GMT X-Posting-IP: 141.190.32.69 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.2.9 cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:16:20 -0000 On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 06:17:05 -0600 (MDT) "M. Warner Losh" wrote: > I'm very happy with my Casio Fiva MPC-205 in terms of portability. > Its 600MHz transmeta cpu is a little slow, and I use an external > keyboard for long hacking sessions, but it is one of the few laptops > that fit easily on a tray table in coach in the US domestic > flights... With 7 hours of battery life with the extended life > battery, I just wish they (a) had a newer model and (b) were more > readily available in the US. For over a year now I've been using a Sony SR7K compact laptop running Mandrake Linux. Like the Fiva MPC-205 it lacks an on-board CD-ROM drive, and getting Mandrake installed and the pc-card wi-fi working was quite a drill. I still use it regularly, because it is light enough to carry in my backpack when I commute by bike. Here are some of my complaints, which have held me back from installing FreeBSD on it. How does the MPC-205 compare? o Battery life, Gnome 1.4, < 2 hrs, noticably less when using XEmacs. o Cannot adjust LCD brightness without Windows, so Win2K is still clogging up the HD. o Hardware initiated suspend works, but pressing any key awakens. I have tried to conserve battery by booting and going into suspend on A/C power, but while riding bike, pressue on unit has caused it to wake up, so it arrives very hot and tired. o No timeout initiated suspend, only HD and LCD power down. o WEP encryption does not work, a driver issue. o Hibernation does not work. Newer kernel may address some of these issues. Is it possible to watch DVDs in FreeBSD, or is that another reason to keep the Windows partition? Can you recommend a supplier? -- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Gary Dunn _/ _/ Open Slate Project _/ _/ http://openslate.sourceforge.net/ _/ _/ http://www.aloha.com/~knowtree/ _/ _/ Honolulu _/ _/ registered Linux user #273809 _/ _/ _/ _/ This tagline is umop apisdn. _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 15:28:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D175A37B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.162.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119F643FB1 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:28:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netprince@vt.edu) Received: from dagger.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:mirapoint@evil-dagger [10.1.1.11]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h68MSwCT302252 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ben.pfountz.com (Snell.vpec.vt.edu [128.173.89.238]) by dagger.cc.vt.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.2-CR) with ESMTP id BPU13167; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36371 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2003 22:29:51 -0000 Received: from 64-89-106-138.arpa.kmcmail.net (HELO miniben) (BinsFriend@64.89.106.138) by tunnel-client.princenet with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP; 8 Jul 2003 22:29:50 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c3459f$d5ed4840$6500a8c0@miniben> From: "Ben Pfountz" To: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:25:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: new prism firmware (1.7.4) breaks hostap mode... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:29:00 -0000 I have a prism based card (from netgate) running in hostap mode. I have been using firmware 1.5.6, everything worked great. I heard that the new firmware supports disabling the public SSID broadcast similar to what the linksys and d-link AP's can do. I installed version 1.7.4 (on clients and server) and the clients can no longer associate with the server. The clients can still associate to other AP's. I can easily revert to the old firmware, so this is not a critical problem. Is there anything I can do to help support this version of the firmware, or should I just revert to the older version? Thanks, Ben wi0 at port 0x240-0x27f irq 5 slot 0 on pccard0 wi0: 802.11 address: 00:02:6f:01:fa:3f wi0: using RF:PRISM2.5 MAC:ISL3873 wi0: Intersil Firmware: Primary 1.01.01, Station 1.07.04 ----- Ben Pfountz B.S. Computer Science Computer Systems Engineer, Center for Power Electronic Systems From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 15:58:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12EE737B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pasmtp.tele.dk (pasmtp.tele.dk [193.162.159.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529B143F93 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:58:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lars@balker.org) Received: from ardbeg.balker.org (laphroaig.balker.org [80.160.52.74]) by pasmtp.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A165F1EC3C7; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 00:58:28 +0200 (CEST) To: Darryl Okahata From: Lars Balker Rasmussen Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 00:58:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200307082120.OAA25861@mina.soco.agilent.com> (Darryl Okahata's message of "Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:20:07 -0700") Message-ID: <0ffzlgwrqk.fsf@laphroaig.balker.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090015 (Oort Gnus v0.15) Emacs/21.1 References: <200307082120.OAA25861@mina.soco.agilent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:58:32 -0000 Darryl Okahata writes: > keyboard feel as being slightly better than that of the Inspiron 7500. > The keyboard layout, on the other hand, is slightly better on the 7500; > on the A31, the Esc key is directly above F1, which drives me batty. xmodmap -e 'keycode 67 = Escape' (At least on my X23, check xev if it doesn't work.) -- Lars Balker Rasmussen Consult::Perl From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 23:49:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6745437B401 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp16.singnet.com.sg (smtp16.singnet.com.sg [165.21.6.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4E443F85 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2003 23:49:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lshsg@singnet.com.sg) Received: from ip5 (bb-203-125-77-62.singnet.com.sg [203.125.77.62]) by smtp16.singnet.com.sg (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h696nTVL001736 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:49:29 +0800 From: "Bob Teo" To: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:57:10 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3462A.600559C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: BCM2033 chip based Bluetooth devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 06:49:32 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3462A.600559C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have some BCM2033 chips. Is there anyway to clear them over your end? Regards. Bob ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3462A.600559C0-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 9 02:46:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F6137B401 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 02:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta05bw.bigpond.com (mta05bw.bigpond.com [144.135.24.153]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003D543FCB for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 02:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter.marrinon@telstra.com) Received: from QUASAR ([144.135.24.69]) by mta05bw.email.bigpond.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with SMTP id <0HHR006Y64GL9S@mta05bw.email.bigpond.com> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 19:45:58 +1000 (EST) Received: from nebula.telstra.net ([203.50.0.148]) by bwmam01.bigpond.com(MAM REL_3_3_2c 2/2712738); Wed, 09 Jul 2003 19:45:59 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 19:46:13 +1000 From: Peter Marrinon In-reply-to: To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Subject: RE: Installing 5.1 on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 6100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:46:17 -0000 Similarly to the "5.1-RELEASE on Acer 507T - install failures" thread, the use of "hw.pci.enable_io_modes=0" fixes the problem on the Toshiba Satellite Pro 6100. Peter Marrinon -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Peter Marrinon Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2003 21:36 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Installing 5.1 on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 6100 I am trying to install FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 6100. Unfortunately, the installation locks up during the hardware probe. ... From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 9 04:20:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DB637B404 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 04:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plant.d-sto.com (plant.d-sto.com [212.3.111.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C700343F85 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 04:20:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kostya@d-sto.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plant.d-sto.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FA684A1ED for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:21:11 +0300 (EEST) X-AV-Checked: Wed Jul 9 14:21:11 2003 Ok Received: from kostya.zavod.d-sto.com (kostya [192.168.1.25]) by plant.d-sto.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E5B49AC1 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:21:05 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:21:05 +0300 From: Konstantin Nikonenko X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60 RC/2) Organization: www.d-sto.com X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <105432613014.20030709142105@d-sto.com> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: pccard & wi X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Konstantin Nikonenko List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 11:20:31 -0000 Hello freebsd-mobile, Have: Standart PC configuration on Intel motherboard, PCI-PCMCIA bridge with Orinoco wavelan. uname -a FreeBSD plant.d-sto.com 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #19: Wed Jul 9 13:39:12 EEST 2003 kernel maked from file, where OLDSTYLE configure # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # Pcmcia and cardbus bridge support nodevice cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge device pcic # ExCA ISA and PCI bridges device card 2 nodevice pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus nodevice cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus from dmesg i can view next: pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib0: slot 2 INTA is routed to irq 11 pcib0: slot 31 INTD is routed to irq 3 pcib0: slot 31 INTB is routed to irq 10 pcib0: slot 31 INTC is routed to irq 9 ... pcib1: _PRS resource entry has unsupported type 2 pcic0: at device 10.0 on pci1 pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0xff800000 pcib1: _PRS resource entry has unsupported type 2 pcic0: No PCI interrupt routed, trying ISA. pcic0: Polling mode ... pccard: card inserted, slot 0 wi0 at port 0x240-0x27f irq 10 slot 0 on pccard0 wi0: 802.11 address: 00:60:1d:f6:7f:51 wi0: using Lucent Technologies, WaveLAN/IEEE wi0: Lucent Firmware: Station (6.6.1) wi0: supported rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps card is configured via ifconfig in /etc/rc.conf pccard_enable="YES" pccard_ifconfig="YES" removable_interfaces="wi0" ifconfig_wi0="inet A.B.C.D netmask 255.255.255.240 media DS/11Mbps mediaopt adhoc stationname XXX ssid YYYY channel 10" ifconfig wi0 say next wi0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet A.B.C.D netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast a.b.c.d ether 00:02:2d:28:0b:79 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet DS/11Mbps status: no carrier ssid my_name stationname DSTO channel 10 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 wepmode OFF weptxkey 1 adhoc mode i put from you recommendation from this maillist. Another side is in BSS mode. Interface doesn't work. :( ping say, that host is down. In FreeBSD 4.X all working beautiful ;) without any errors. mb i must configure in kernel in another way? But in this case interface is not founding. -- Cheers, Konstantin Nikonenko http://www.kot.dp.ua/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 9 04:22:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104BB37B401 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 04:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E514443F3F for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 04:22:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h69BLTdP040248; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 05:21:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 05:21:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20030709.052128.39156672.imp@bsdimp.com> To: knowtree@aloha.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <200307082215.h68MFtmT016507@koa.aloha.com> References: <200307082215.h68MFtmT016507@koa.aloha.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 11:22:18 -0000 In message: <200307082215.h68MFtmT016507@koa.aloha.com> knowtree@aloha.com writes: : FreeBSD on it. How does the MPC-205 compare? : o Battery life, Gnome 1.4, < 2 hrs, noticably less when using XEmacs. I'm getting about 2.5-3 hours from my X environment. I have the speed set to '4' (of 8) in ecconomy mode, which helps a lot. I found an extended life battery in akihabara this past week and have been getting more like 7-9 hours of life out of it, depending on what I'm doing. i'm working on some code here to make freebsd sip power better, but haven't committed them yet due to some undesirable side effects. : o Cannot adjust LCD brightness without Windows, so Win2K is still : clogging up the HD. Can do that at any time, and the bios remembers the setting for the power mode. I have no windows on this machine, but it came to me that way. I think this is a function of the bios or something, but don't know the mechanism well enough to comment further. i know there's no program in freebsd that i've found to do lcd level manipulations. still, being able to set it using the keyboard is very nice. : o Hardware initiated suspend works, but pressing any key awakens. I have tried : to conserve battery by booting and going into suspend on A/C power, but while : riding bike, pressue on unit has caused it to wake up, so it arrives very hot : and tired. I've not tried to get suspend/resume working. there are some issues with doing this that are generic to freebsd that i have only partial patches for. however, when i have tested it in the past, i have to try pretty hard to resume. i do set it to S4 because S4 bios is true. I've not done much (any?) testing of S3 mode. i had to hack things a little to have the right S modes work. but the fiva only supports s3 s4 and s5. : o No timeout initiated suspend, only HD and LCD power down. I haven't tried to set this up. so i don't know how easy/hard this would be. : o WEP encryption does not work, a driver issue. I don't use wep much. : o Hibernation does not work. if by this you mean S3, then when i've tested itin the past it works to a point, but there are some issues with it. : Is it possible to watch DVDs in FreeBSD, or is that another reason to keep the : Windows partition? I do this all the time with my Dell I8000, but it has the dvd drive built in. i have no experience with dvd via cardbus/pccard to speak of. : Can you recommend a supplier? no. i got mine as a gift from Casio so that i could improve freebsd support on the platform. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 9 04:27:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2DA37B401 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 04:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB8B43F3F for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 04:27:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marks@ripe.net) Received: from laptop.6bone.nl (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.9/8.11.6) with SMTP id h69BR1RS028682; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:27:01 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 6784 invoked by uid 1000); Wed, 09 Jul 2003 11:27:01 -0000 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:27:01 +0200 From: Mark Santcroos To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20030709112701.GC689@laptop.6bone.nl> References: <200307082215.h68MFtmT016507@koa.aloha.com> <20030709.052128.39156672.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030709.052128.39156672.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Handles: MS6-6BONE, MS18417-RIPE cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 11:27:11 -0000 On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 05:21:28AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > : o Hibernation does not work. > > if by this you mean S3, then when i've tested itin the past it works I hope that was a typo and you meant to say S4. > no. i got mine as a gift from Casio so that i could improve freebsd > support on the platform. That's very cool of them. That gives them some big plusses as they are at least willing to help. Mark -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 9 06:36:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B972037B401 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B981043F85 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:36:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19aF6G-00072U-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:35:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19aF5X-0006ya-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:34:27 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 09:35:12 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <200307082215.h68MFtmT016507@koa.aloha.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 13:36:05 -0000 knowtree@aloha.com wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 06:17:05 -0600 (MDT) > "M. Warner Losh" wrote: > o WEP encryption does not work, a driver issue. Did you try using a Hex key? I couldn't get WEP to work on Linux or FreeBSD with my IBM A30p unless I used Hex keys. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 9 08:29:32 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7268F37B41B for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from musique.teaser.net (musique.teaser.net [213.91.2.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F5E43FA3 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:29:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e-masson@kisoft-services.com) Received: from notbsdems.interne.kisoft-services.com (d33-212.ppp.teaser.fr [213.91.33.212]) by musique.teaser.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8FA72CD8 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:29:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: by notbsdems.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 324A85ACCD; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:28:40 +0200 (CEST) To: Mailing List FreeBSD Mobile From: Eric Masson X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:28:40 +0200 Message-ID: <86k7arra6v.fsf@notbsdems.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Aironet 350 LMC & pluggable antenna X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:29:32 -0000 Hello, Sorry for this half OT post. I own a cisco aironet 350 lmc and would like to know if anyone knows about a small pluggable antenna for this card. Atm, i use one made of 2 aerials screwed on a base linked to the card by 2 wires and that's not really convenient except when I'm at home ;) Thanks in advance. Eric Masson -- Bientôt, Apple ne va plus que fournir les plans sous microfilms coincés sur le proc : le but sera de les en déloger avant d'allumer la machine, sinon ça fond ! Comme à Fort Boyard... -+- SP in Guide du Macounet Pervers :The name is Bond, James Bond -+- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 9 09:01:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8420037B404 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9E043F93 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:01:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h69G10YH034302; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:01:10 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (Postfix, from userid 126) id 59F7EAD7D; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:01:00 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:01:00 +0400 (MSD) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20030709.052128.39156672.imp@bsdimp.com> Message-ID: <20030709195701.B22558@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru> References: <200307082215.h68MFtmT016507@koa.aloha.com> <20030709.052128.39156672.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 16:01:21 -0000 > : Is it possible to watch DVDs in FreeBSD, or is that another reason to keep the > : Windows partition? > > I do this all the time with my Dell I8000, but it has the dvd drive > built in. i have no experience with dvd via cardbus/pccard to speak > of. What is the best program for it? Can you watch any DVD? I can watch some with mplayer, and some kick the system off so the computer reboots. However, my mplayer has not been updated for a while... Alex From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 9 11:37:35 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD5E37B401 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C3343FB1 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:37:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from larse@ISI.EDU) Received: from isi.edu (c-24-130-112-121.we.client2.attbi.com [24.130.112.121]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h69IbKX25924; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F0C60DA.5080505@isi.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 11:37:14 -0700 From: Lars Eggert Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Pfountz References: <001001c3459f$d5ed4840$6500a8c0@miniben> In-Reply-To: <001001c3459f$d5ed4840$6500a8c0@miniben> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030000070300090209080601" cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new prism firmware (1.7.4) breaks hostap mode... X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:37:36 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030000070300090209080601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ben Pfountz wrote: > > I have a prism based card (from netgate) running in hostap mode. I have > been using firmware 1.5.6, everything worked great. I heard that the new > firmware supports disabling the public SSID broadcast similar to what the > linksys and d-link AP's can do. I installed version 1.7.4 (on clients and > server) and the clients can no longer associate with the server. The > clients can still associate to other AP's. FWIW, I see the exact same thing with 1.7.4. It looks like the AP comes up, but then goes down when a client tries to associate. Reverting to 1.4.9 works around the issue. This is with a patched -STABLE from spring 2003. 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Jul 2003 11:37:42 PDT Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:37:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Maksim Yevmenkin To: Bob Teo , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3F0C5AF7.7050602@cw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: BCM2033 chip based Bluetooth devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:37:43 -0000 Bob, > I have some BCM2033 chips. Is there anyway to clear them over your end? Broadcom BCM2033 chip based Bluetooth devices are supported. You need to get the mini-dirver and firmware images though (not included into FreeBSD but you can download them from Internet). You need to load ubtbcmfw(4) and ng_ubt(4) drivers. When you plug the device ubtbcmfw(4) driver will attach first. Then you need to use bcmfw(8) utility to load mini-driver and firmware images to the device. As soon as download is complete the device will reset itself and ubtbcmfw(4) will detach from the device. After that ng_ubt(4) will attach to the device. At this point the device is ready to use and you can do "rc.bluetooth start ubtX", where X is the device number. thanks, max __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 9 11:53:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F03B37B401 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACEF43FA3 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19aK3i-0001ta-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:52:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19aK35-0001qh-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:52:15 +0200 From: Mikael Cardell Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:53:33 +0200 Organization: Temple of the Moby Hack Lines: 7 Message-ID: <86of031qhe.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> References: <20030708003749.GD7437@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200307082120.OAA25861@mina.soco.agilent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mu6S5l9PL69NfSLPDXqta+61EFk= Sender: news Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:53:59 -0000 Darryl Okahata writes: > on the A31, the Esc key is directly above F1, which drives me batty. Why don't you remap another key as ESC? On my (Swedish) keyboard there is a useless key to the left of "1" marked as "§" which I don't use, so I have simply remapped it to be ESC. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 9 11:59:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A779137B407 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF1243F85 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 11:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19aK9R-0002S1-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:58:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19aK9O-0002Rd-00 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:58:46 +0200 From: Mikael Cardell Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:00:04 +0200 Organization: Temple of the Moby Hack Lines: 10 Message-ID: <86k7ar1q6j.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> References: <200307082120.OAA25861@mina.soco.agilent.com> <0ffzlgwrqk.fsf@laphroaig.balker.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PvHHk/QMvZmxr6OPJ71Gea0gw0w= Sender: news Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 18:59:37 -0000 Lars Balker Rasmussen writes: > xmodmap -e 'keycode 67 = Escape' And use kbdcontrol -l mapfile for console mode. See kbdmap(5) for the format of the file and use kbdcontrol -d to dump the existing mapping to stdout. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 9 12:09:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB3D37B401 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C2B43FAF for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:09:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@soco.agilent.com) Received: from relcos1.cos.agilent.com (relcos1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.239]) by msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0764717CF3 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:09:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by relcos1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DD4158 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 13:09:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id MAA20277 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2003 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200307091909.MAA20277@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:53:33 +0200." <86of031qhe.fsf@fuckup.hack.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 12:09:53 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Subject: Re: Choosing a new laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Darryl Okahata List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 19:09:56 -0000 Mikael Cardell wrote: > Darryl Okahata writes: > > > on the A31, the Esc key is directly above F1, which drives me batty. > > Why don't you remap another key as ESC? On my (Swedish) keyboard there ... because there is no good key that can be used. I like having the Esc key be close to the "1" key in the top row, and there is no (little-used) key there that I can use. [ There are, of course, other keys near the "1" key, but using any of those as an Esc key would be analogous to remapping the space bar to [Enter]. ;-) It's not something that I'd want to do. ] -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 11 16:23:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D6237B401 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FAF443F93 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:23:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from diz@linuxpowered.com) Received: from linuxpowered.com (12-238-50-170.client.attbi.com[12.238.50.170](untrusted sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <200307112323550140007bkte> (Authid: jdisnard); Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:23:55 +0000 Message-ID: <3F0F4701.6010507@linuxpowered.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:23:45 -0500 From: Jon Disnard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ADMtek 802.11b X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 23:23:57 -0000 I just noticed this: http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=11986 Any word on a possible ETA? The link says Warner is working on a port. -Jon From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 11 18:40:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A64737B401 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snoopy.pacific.net.au (snoopy.pacific.net.au [61.8.0.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF30043FAF for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:40:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from memetical@yahoo.com.au) Received: from sunny.pacific.net.au (sunny.pacific.net.au [203.2.228.40]) h6C1eZZY032587 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:40:35 +1000 Received: from wisma.pacific.net.au (wisma.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.72]) by sunny.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id h6C1eZQg018944 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:40:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from zhadum.dnsalias.net (dyn153.syd7.homedsl.pacific.net.au [202.7.78.153]) by wisma.pacific.net.au (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6C1eXnh019163 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:40:33 +1000 (EST) Received: from psi.starfleet.org.au (psi.starfleet.org.au [172.16.0.3]) by arthur.starfleet.org.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70B995CA for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:40:32 +1000 (EST) Received: by psi.starfleet.org.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6DA9C6F6AC; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:40:32 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:40:32 +1000 From: Rudolph Pereira To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030712014031.GA48560@starfleet.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: battery life on presario 720 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:40:38 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I have a presario 720au laptop (only has acpi support), and I am trying to work out why it's running time on battery is so low under freebsd. Under linux and windows xp, I can get up to about 4 hours of battery life, while on freebsd (-current, compiled jul 9), it's less than two hours (closer to 1:45). Is there something fundamental I'm missing? Both windows xp and linux seem to run quieter/cooler (I assume they are turning off fans, idling the cpu, etc), but I cannot achieve the same effect with freebsd. I've attached a dmesg, if that's of any help. All the OSs are pretty much stock standard installs with no tweaking. Linux is 2.4.21 +acpi patches, and freebsd only has nate's EC patch (which has since been committed, iirc). I've tried using my own compiled dsdt/aml table but that doesn't seem to change anything. If anyone can point me in the right direction, or give any other information, it would be appreciated. thanks --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=it Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #2: Wed Jul 9 17:23:59 EST 2003 rudolph@psi:/var/tmp/obj/var/tmp/src/sys/C720AU-current Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc045a000. Preloaded acpi_dsdt "/boot/acpi_dsdt.aml" at 0xc045a244. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc045a28c. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1096206103 Hz CPU: mobile AMD Duron(tm) Processor (1096.21-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x671 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383f9ff AMD Features=0xc0480000 real memory = 251658240 (240 MB) avail memory = 239599616 (228 MB) Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled VESA: v2.0, 15296k memory, flags:0x1, mode table:0xc039b242 (1000022) VESA: S3 Incorporated. Twister BIOS ACPI: DSDT was overridden. ACPI-0375: *** Info: Table [DSDT] replaced by host OS npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00fdf50 acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x8008-0x800b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 acpi_cmbat0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib0: slot 7 INTD is routed to irq 9 pcib0: slot 7 INTC is routed to irq 5 pcib0: slot 9 INTA is routed to irq 4 pcib0: slot 11 INTA is routed to irq 11 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pcib1: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_ - AE_NOT_FOUND pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1840-0x184f at device 7.1 on pci0 atapci0: Correcting VIA config for southbridge data corruption bug ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at device 7.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 7.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 7.5 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) cbb0: mem 0xffbfe000-0xffbfefff at device 10.0 on pci0 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 pcib0: slot 10 INTA is routed to irq 11 rl0: port 0x1400-0x14ff mem 0xe8010000-0xe80100ff irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0 rl0: Realtek 8139B detected. Warning, this may be unstable in autoselect mode rl0: Ethernet address: 00:08:02:2e:ca:e1 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ppc0 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 acpi_ec0: port 0x66,0x62 on acpi0 orm0: