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Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.quik.com (x14.quik.com [216.176.28.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C432B43F3F for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:31:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jimwatts@quik.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by x14.quik.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) id h147VPFS027184 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org.qbigmail; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:31:25 -0800 Received: from quik.com (dialup-ras5-50.pdx.or.uspops.net [216.239.176.50]) (authenticated bits=0) by x14.quik.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h147VNH9027176 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 23:31:25 -0800 Message-ID: <3E3F6A84.8050707@quik.com> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:23:48 -0800 From: jim Reply-To: jimwatts@quik.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: i bought freebsd 4 and Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i just bought freebsd 4 and i have gotten it to boot x the mouse works but i can't get it to load window maker when i gave the cmd "wmaker.inst" it said I have to edit (probably initrc) when i typed it in exactly the way it told me it said file not found am i missing something I have a 1.5 gig hd 32 megs of ram 133 proccessor. any idea on how i can get the thing running something twm comes up but the commands are all unfamiliar to me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 4 5: 2:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD41D37B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 05:02:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D387143F75 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 05:02:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by mail.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF5547D; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:01:46 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DD2CA2FDB20; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:01:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:01:11 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: jim Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: i bought freebsd 4 and Message-ID: <20030204130111.GO393@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: jim , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org References: <3E3F6A84.8050707@quik.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E3F6A84.8050707@quik.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org # jimwatts@quik.com / 2003-02-03 23:23:48 -0800: > i just bought freebsd 4 and i have gotten it to boot x the mouse works > but i can't get it to load window maker when i gave the cmd > "wmaker.inst" it said I have to edit (probably initrc) when i typed it > in exactly the way it told me it said file not found am i missing > something first, you might want to improve your chances of getting [useful] answers by improving your questions: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Now, the wmaker.inst file probably carries linux-specific instructions. You can make it a lot easier for yourself by using the loads of packages that occupy most of the CD set you bought: su -m /stand/sysinstall configPackages -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 4 8:59:18 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE46937B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:59:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from web40908.mail.yahoo.com (web40908.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1F2243F75 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:59:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davemjones13@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20030204165917.15868.qmail@web40908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.55.200.20] by web40908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 08:59:17 PST Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:59:17 -0800 (PST) From: dave jones Reply-To: dmj111@psualum.com Subject: Re: i bought freebsd 4 and To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20030204130111.GO393@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here is additional link to that FAQ. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html --- Roman Neuhauser wrote: > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 4 10:45:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A547737B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:45:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.acuson.com (ac17859.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC9443F85 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:45:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H9S004E9S2GA2@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:44:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:38:18 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-188.acuson.com ([157.226.46.188]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Y2R0HWC6; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:39:36 -0800 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:45:03 -0800 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: i bought freebsd 4 and In-reply-to: <3E3F6A84.8050707@quik.com> To: jimwatts@quik.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <200302041045.03400.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <3E3F6A84.8050707@quik.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 03 February 2003 11:23 pm, jim wrote: > i just bought freebsd 4 and i have gotten it to boot x the mouse works > but i can't get it to load window maker when i gave the cmd > "wmaker.inst" it said I have to edit (probably initrc) when i typed it > in exactly the way it told me it said file not found am i missing > something I have a 1.5 gig hd 32 megs of ram 133 proccessor. any idea > on how i can get the thing running something twm comes up but the > commands are all unfamiliar to me. This is a Windowmaker problem, and not strictly FreeBSD. I am using Windowmaker "out of the box" just fine under FreeBSD. The file you're supposed to list with wmaker.inst is ".xinitrc" (don't forget the period). This has always worked for me. It automatically creates or edits the file. I suspect you have a permission problem. Log into the account you will be using Windowmaker from, and make sure you are in that user's home directory, before running wmaker.inst. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 4 12:45: 2 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BB637B401; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [64.251.91.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8709E43FB1; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:44:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1B0FCAE541; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-01-12 - 2003-02-01 Message-Id: <20030202081001.1B0FCAE541@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 28-Jan : Open Source Weekend - conference report OSW was a great event http://freebsddiary.org/osw-2003.php?2 21-Jan : Amazon, OSW, and my thanks More features, more advocacy, and more appreciation http://freebsddiary.org/index.html?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 4 14: 6:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B5037B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C5043F75 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:06:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fgibbs@attbi.com) Received: from default (h00e01824e112.ne.client2.attbi.com[24.147.72.125]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02) with SMTP id <2003020422064700200i4f69e>; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:06:47 +0000 From: "F&TGibbs" To: "Johnson David" , , Subject: RE: i bought freebsd 4 and Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:07:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200302041045.03400.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim, David is correct. It is a WindowMaker issue, so list the .xinitrc within wmaker.inst. On behalf of the majority of us, the first respondent to your query appears to be somewhat socially retarded and unable to "play well with others". I strongly dislike receiving arrogant and distasteful replies on an open board like this one. Granted, ESR makes a valid point in his essay, but c'mon, let's support our own and help each other out. If RN can't understand this, then perhaps reading some essays by RMS on freedom (including freedom to ask, share and be curious [share being an operative word here] - part of the hacker mantra) - it's just a question he had, not the formula for crystal meth or weaponized anthrax............... Drive on, Jim, and ask what you will............ Fritz Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Johnson David Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:45 PM To: jimwatts@quik.com; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: i bought freebsd 4 and On Monday 03 February 2003 11:23 pm, jim wrote: > i just bought freebsd 4 and i have gotten it to boot x the mouse works > but i can't get it to load window maker when i gave the cmd > "wmaker.inst" it said I have to edit (probably initrc) when i typed it > in exactly the way it told me it said file not found am i missing > something I have a 1.5 gig hd 32 megs of ram 133 proccessor. any idea > on how i can get the thing running something twm comes up but the > commands are all unfamiliar to me. This is a Windowmaker problem, and not strictly FreeBSD. I am using Windowmaker "out of the box" just fine under FreeBSD. The file you're supposed to list with wmaker.inst is ".xinitrc" (don't forget the period). This has always worked for me. It automatically creates or edits the file. I suspect you have a permission problem. Log into the account you will be using Windowmaker from, and make sure you are in that user's home directory, before running wmaker.inst. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 4 14:24:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9AC37B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:24:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8183043FA3 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:24:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jtbsd@comcast.net) Received: from sethanon.@HOME (pcp01123012pcs.frsrc101.mi.comcast.net [68.61.161.104]) by mtaout05.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.09 (built Jan 7 2003)) with ESMTP id <0H9T00B8B27OLO@mtaout05.icomcast.net> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 17:23:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 17:24:14 -0500 From: "Joseph R. Tanner" Subject: How to upgrade... To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Reply-To: jtbsd@comcast.net Message-id: <200302041724.14373.jtbsd@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am just beginning with the FreeBSD operating system, I have the KDE GUI installed and I noticed that my version is 3.0 and there is a 3.1 out, I noticed on their site that I can download the 3.1 source, but will that then upgrade to 3.1 or install over my 3.0? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 4 15: 9: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EE837B4A1 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.acuson.com (ac17859.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB10543E4A for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H9T004UU494A2@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 15:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 15:01:29 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-188.acuson.com ([157.226.46.188]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Y2R0H6C8; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 15:01:14 -0800 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 15:06:42 -0800 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: How to upgrade... In-reply-to: <200302041724.14373.jtbsd@comcast.net> To: jtbsd@comcast.net, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-id: <200302041506.42109.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200302041724.14373.jtbsd@comcast.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 04 February 2003 02:24 pm, Joseph R. Tanner wrote: > ...but will that then upgrade to 3.1 or install over my 3.0? The best way to upgrade is to use portupgrade. It will automatically deinstall the old port and install the new one. READ THE HANDBOOK ON PORTS AND UPGRADING FIRST! Also read the documentation on the freebsd.kde.org site. The freebsd.kde.org site also has a mailing list just for KDE on FreeBSD. It can be very helpful to peruse its archives. David Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 4 18: 3:17 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C8137B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.quik.com (x14.quik.com [216.176.28.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C99A43F9B for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:03:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdwwatts@netscape.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by x14.quik.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) id h1523BVs026334 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org.qbigmail; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:03:11 -0800 Received: from localhost.localdomain (dialup-ras5-16.pdx.or.uspops.net [216.239.176.16]) (authenticated bits=0) by x14.quik.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1522qi6025910 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:03:10 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: jim Organization: Winning Endevours To: Subject: .xinitrc Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:55:10 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200302041755.10554.jdwwatts@netscape.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by x14.quik.com id h1522qi6025910 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok windowmaker comes up but the color and size is all wrong and I don't know how to procede. what do i need to do to increase the font to start with. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 4 18:25:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3801A37B411 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.shadow.net (mail.shadow.net [65.166.1.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B0043FA3 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:25:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phoenix@shadow.net) Received: from shadow.net (22-161.121.popsite.net [66.217.147.161]) by mail.shadow.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h152RgSL001089 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:27:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E41BB3F.1040309@shadow.net> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 20:32:47 -0500 From: Dave User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies Subject: optical mouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I've been using FreeBSD 4.7 for about 3 months and I wanted to upgrade my current mouse to an optical mouse. I tried out a GE Optical Mouse (PS2 connection)due to that fact that it stated that it didn't require a Windows system for basic operation. I attempted to use the automatic mouse function in XFree864.0 and it won't recognize the mouse at all. It will move slightly when set to Microsoft Optical mouse, meaning just a little bit on the right hand side, but it won't cross the screen, nor will it recognize any of the buttons. Has anyone managed to get an optical mouse (hopefully a GE Optical mouse) to work with FreeBSD ? - Dave - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 4 21: 3:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3AD37B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f74.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A6D43F9B for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:03:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:03:14 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 05:03:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: optical mouse Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 05:03:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2003 05:03:14.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[E33E4570:01C2CCD3] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Dave, (and list) I do have an optical mouse working with FreeBSD; I don't know of any fundamental reason why yours shouldn't work. Mine's also ps/2... I've never changed out the mouse, so I don't know if there's something else you have to change, but my XF86Config looks like this: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "SysMouse" Option "Emulate3Buttons" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" EndSection (I think "PS/2" and "auto" both worked.) You could also re-enter the config utility via /stand/sysinstall to modify your X config. (If you go under index, you can also run just the test interface.) Peace, Clayton > >Hello, > >I've been using FreeBSD 4.7 for about 3 months and I wanted to upgrade my >current mouse to an optical mouse. > >I tried out a GE Optical Mouse (PS2 connection)due to that fact that it >stated that it didn't require a Windows system for basic operation. > >I attempted to use the automatic mouse function in XFree864.0 and it won't >recognize the mouse at all. It will move slightly when set to Microsoft >Optical mouse, meaning just a little bit on the right hand side, but it >won't >cross the screen, nor will it recognize any of the buttons. > >Has anyone managed to get an optical mouse (hopefully a GE Optical mouse) >to work with FreeBSD ? > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Feb 4 21:32:23 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23BF37B401 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from spork.pantherdragon.org (spork.pantherdragon.org [206.29.168.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6043943F3F for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmp@pantherdragon.org) Received: from sparx.techno.pagans (12-224-208-117.client.attbi.com [12.224.208.117]) by spork.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08C41005F; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pantherdragon.org (speck.techno.pagans [172.21.42.2]) by sparx.techno.pagans (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F470AB6A; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:32:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3E40A1E2.80502@pantherdragon.org> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 21:32:18 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Cc: freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: optical mouse References: <3E41BB3F.1040309@shadow.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dave wrote: > Hello, > > I've been using FreeBSD 4.7 for about 3 months and I wanted to upgrade my > current mouse to an optical mouse. > > I tried out a GE Optical Mouse (PS2 connection)due to that fact that it > stated that it didn't require a Windows system for basic operation. > > I attempted to use the automatic mouse function in XFree864.0 and it > won't recognize the mouse at all. It will move slightly when set to > Microsoft Optical mouse, meaning just a little bit on the right hand > side, but it won't cross the screen, nor will it recognize any of the > buttons. > > Has anyone managed to get an optical mouse (hopefully a GE Optical mouse) > to work with FreeBSD ? Yes, I have a simple Logitech Optical mouse working (two buttons with wheel) just fine. I've found the only mice that I can reliably get to work are PS/2 and PS/2-compatible USB Logitech mice. There's a LOT of documentation floating around for getting even the new ones like the MX700 working fully under X. 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KUDSBIJDZS Reply-To: juytjjjnhj65@vyhino.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Organization: MobileCalls Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:44:40 +0300 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org èÏÔÉÔÅ ÍÉÎÉÍÉÚÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ Ó×É ÒÁÓÈÏÄÙ ÎÁ ÍÏÂÉÌØÎÙÊ ÔÅÌÅÆÏÎ? ôÏÇÄÁ ×ÁÍ ÓÀÄÁ: www.free-gsm-calls.com KUDSBIJDZSHVSKXULSKDHXERCEWWZDKRYXWPQV To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 5 5:10: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B97437B401 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from alvin.unc.edu.ar (alvin.unc.edu.ar [170.210.248.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F190A43F85 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:09:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meschoyez@gtwing.efn.uncor.edu) Received: from gtwing.efn.uncor.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alvin.unc.edu.ar (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h15D9mZ10730 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:09:48 -0300 Received: from lcd (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gtwing.efn.uncor.edu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h15D8Ef30311 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:08:14 -0300 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:14:14 -0300 (ART) From: Maxi X-Sender: meschoyez@lcd.efn.uncor.edu To: Newbies Subject: Redirecting output in XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys! I've recently installed XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE and I didn't have a solution to redirect the graphical output of a remote host to mine. After enabling the remote host with 'xhost' in the localhost and setting the 'DISPLAY' variable under the SSH session, when I start a graphical program it returns 'unable to open display'. I've used to do this everyday with XFree86-3 under 4.6-RELEASE, but now I don't know what's happenning. I didn't find anything in the handbook and FAQ. My Google search didn't help much. If someone knows were to point me, I'll be very thankful. Regards, o M@X To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 5 5:19: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF6E37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:19:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.dc.turkuamk.fi (webmail.dc.turkuamk.fi [193.166.135.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC85643F85 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:18:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kfredenb@dc.turkuamk.fi) Received: (from apache@localhost) by webmail.dc.turkuamk.fi (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h15DIli25429; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:18:47 +0200 Received: from out.ok.turkuamk.fi ( [out.ok.turkuamk.fi]) as user kfredenb@dc.turkuamk.fi by webmail.dc.turkuamk.fi with HTTP; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:18:46 +0200 Message-ID: <1044451126.3e410f36e9bfa@webmail.dc.turkuamk.fi> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:18:46 +0200 From: kfredenb@dc.turkuamk.fi To: Maxi Cc: Newbies Subject: Re: Redirecting output in XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Maxi : > Hi guys! > > I've recently installed XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE and I didn't have a > solution to redirect the graphical output of a remote host to mine. > After enabling the remote host with 'xhost' in the localhost and setting > the 'DISPLAY' variable under the SSH session, when I start a graphical > program it returns 'unable to open display'. Hi, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 5 5:22:47 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320E937B407 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.dc.turkuamk.fi (webmail.dc.turkuamk.fi [193.166.135.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E4D43F85 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:22:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kfredenb@dc.turkuamk.fi) Received: (from apache@localhost) by webmail.dc.turkuamk.fi (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h15DMbg25436; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:22:37 +0200 Received: from out.ok.turkuamk.fi ( [out.ok.turkuamk.fi]) as user kfredenb@dc.turkuamk.fi by webmail.dc.turkuamk.fi with HTTP; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:22:37 +0200 Message-ID: <1044451357.3e41101d8c62f@webmail.dc.turkuamk.fi> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:22:37 +0200 From: kfredenb@dc.turkuamk.fi To: Maxi Cc: Newbies Subject: Re: Redirecting output in XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Maxi : > Hi guys! > > I've recently installed XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE and I didn't have a > solution to redirect the graphical output of a remote host to mine. > After enabling the remote host with 'xhost' in the localhost and setting > the 'DISPLAY' variable under the SSH session, when I start a graphical > program it returns 'unable to open display'. > Hi, sorry about the last empty mail, my fingers slipped :) Well, what I was suppose to say was that, did you try to redirect the X using the -X flag in ssh? Then you wouldn't have to play around with xhost and the DISPLAY variable at all. ssh -X you@your.server best regards, Kim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 5 5:52:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76EE37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:52:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from alvin.unc.edu.ar (alvin.unc.edu.ar [170.210.248.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1422543F85 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:52:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meschoyez@gtwing.efn.uncor.edu) Received: from gtwing.efn.uncor.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alvin.unc.edu.ar (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h15DqFA18696 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:52:15 -0300 Received: from lcd (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gtwing.efn.uncor.edu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h15DofY32185 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:50:41 -0300 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:56:41 -0300 (ART) From: Maxi X-Sender: meschoyez@lcd.efn.uncor.edu To: Newbies Subject: Re: Redirecting output in XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <1044451357.3e41101d8c62f@webmail.dc.turkuamk.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -> > I've recently installed XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE and I didn't have a -> > solution to redirect the graphical output of a remote host to mine. -> > After enabling the remote host with 'xhost' in the localhost and setting -> > the 'DISPLAY' variable under the SSH session, when I start a graphical -> > program it returns 'unable to open display'. -> -> Well, what I was suppose to say was that, did you try to redirect -> the X using the -X flag in ssh? Then you wouldn't have to play -> around with xhost and the DISPLAY variable at all. -> -> ssh -X you@your.server -> Thanks! But it didn't solve the problem :-( SSH doesn't set the DISPLAY variable on the remote hosts. I think that those Linux boxes don't wanna give me his services anymore :-D o M@X To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 5 8:42: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1521137B401 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f68.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869DC43F43 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:42:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:42:03 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:42:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redirecting output in XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:42:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Feb 2003 16:42:03.0320 (UTC) FILETIME=[82EB1380:01C2CD35] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can set ssh to export the display variable through the $user/.ssh/environment script with a line like 'export DISPLAY=:0' hope that helps you some. Peace, Clayton >-> > I've recently installed XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE and I didn't have >a >-> > solution to redirect the graphical output of a remote host to mine. >-> > After enabling the remote host with 'xhost' in the localhost and >setting >-> > the 'DISPLAY' variable under the SSH session, when I start a graphical >-> > program it returns 'unable to open display'. >-> >-> Well, what I was suppose to say was that, did you try to redirect >-> the X using the -X flag in ssh? Then you wouldn't have to play >-> around with xhost and the DISPLAY variable at all. >-> >-> ssh -X you@your.server >-> > >Thanks! But it didn't solve the problem :-( > >SSH doesn't set the DISPLAY variable on the remote hosts. > >I think that those Linux boxes don't wanna give me his services >anymore :-D _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 5 8:50:25 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688E637B401 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:50:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FF743F43 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:50:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Charles.S.Libby@motorola.com) Received: from pobox3.mot.com (pobox3.mot.com [10.64.251.242]) by motgate.mot.com (Motorola/Motgate) with ESMTP id h15GoGZx018026 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:50:16 -0700 (MST) Received: [from il33exm02.wes.mot.com (il33exm02.wes.mot.com [154.56.3.102]) by pobox3.mot.com (MOT-pobox3 2.0) with ESMTP id JAA24650 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:49:05 -0700 (MST)] Received: from motorola.com (DHCP129_188_138_177.corp.mot.com [129.188.138.177]) by il33exm02.wes.mot.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2656.59) id D57A917K; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:49:25 -0600 Message-ID: <3E413F3F.1090602@motorola.com> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:43:43 -0600 From: "Charles S. Libby" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: clayton rollins , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redirecting output in XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Display Variable will be sent to remote hosts if the SSH server has X11Relay Configured. This is found in the sshd_config file. It can also be set up as a relay agent to forward displays. We use this to connect with my lab through a proxy server. Charles clayton rollins wrote: > You can set ssh to export the display variable through the > $user/.ssh/environment script with a line like 'export > DISPLAY=:0' > > hope that helps you some. > > Peace, > Clayton > >> -> > I've recently installed XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE and I didn't >> have a >> -> > solution to redirect the graphical output of a remote host to mine. >> -> > After enabling the remote host with 'xhost' in the localhost and >> setting >> -> > the 'DISPLAY' variable under the SSH session, when I start a >> graphical >> -> > program it returns 'unable to open display'. >> -> >> -> Well, what I was suppose to say was that, did you try to redirect >> -> the X using the -X flag in ssh? Then you wouldn't have to play >> -> around with xhost and the DISPLAY variable at all. >> -> >> -> ssh -X you@your.server >> -> >> >> Thanks! But it didn't solve the problem :-( >> >> SSH doesn't set the DISPLAY variable on the remote hosts. >> >> I think that those Linux boxes don't wanna give me his services >> anymore :-D > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 5 8:53:19 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BE837B401 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:53:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37DC43E4A for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:53:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Charles.S.Libby@motorola.com) Received: from pobox3.mot.com (pobox3.mot.com [10.64.251.242]) by motgate.mot.com (Motorola/Motgate) with ESMTP id h15GrHWa019076 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:53:17 -0700 (MST) Received: [from il33exm02.wes.mot.com (il33exm02.wes.mot.com [154.56.3.102]) by pobox3.mot.com (MOT-pobox3 2.0) with ESMTP id JAA26154 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:52:06 -0700 (MST)] Received: from motorola.com (DHCP129_188_138_177.corp.mot.com [129.188.138.177]) by il33exm02.wes.mot.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2656.59) id D57A918F; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:52:27 -0600 Message-ID: <3E413FF5.2060300@motorola.com> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:46:45 -0600 From: "Charles S. Libby" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Redirecting output in XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -> > I've recently installed XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE and I didn't have a -> > solution to redirect the graphical output of a remote host to mine. -> > After enabling the remote host with 'xhost' in the localhost and setting -> > the 'DISPLAY' variable under the SSH session, when I start a graphical -> > program it returns 'unable to open display'. -> This is not a relay is it? if so, xauth is a part of the process too. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 5 10:49:39 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B8F37B405 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.acuson.com (ac17859.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E7243FA7 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:49:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H9U005X0MWYV6@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:42:11 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-188.acuson.com ([157.226.46.188]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Y2R022H2; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:43:33 -0800 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:49:01 -0800 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: .xinitrc In-reply-to: <200302041755.10554.jdwwatts@netscape.net> To: jim , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <200302051049.01711.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200302041755.10554.jdwwatts@netscape.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 04 February 2003 05:55 pm, jim wrote: > Ok windowmaker comes up but the color and size is all wrong and I > don't know how to procede. what do i need to do to increase the font > to start with. You're all done then with the FreeBSD part. You can change the color, theme, and other stuff using the Windowmaker WPref icon and the Appearance item on the menu. To change the resolution you need to reconfigure XFree86 and choose a higher resolution (or disable virtual desktop). There's a chapter in the Handbook on configuring XFree86. Decent documentation for Windowmaker is very scarce, but you can start at www.windowmaker.org. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 6 8: 1:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7149A37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net (mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net [63.231.195.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B521B43FB1 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:01:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfryder@qwest.net) Received: (qmail 85161 invoked by uid 0); 6 Feb 2003 16:01:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (63.231.195.9) by mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 6 Feb 2003 16:01:34 -0000 Received: from adsl189.omah.uswest.net (HELO wolf.qwest.net) (209.180.104.189) by mpls-pop-09.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 6 Feb 2003 16:01:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:06:23 -0600 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030206095501.00a9fcb0@pop.omah.uswest.net> From: "WolfRyder" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Sender: wolfryder@pop.omah.uswest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-01-12 - 2003-02-01 In-Reply-To: <20030202081001.1B0FCAE541@nezlok.unixathome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've tried getting to the The FreeBSD Diary site, the http://www.FreshPorts.org/ and http://www.FreshSource.org/ . The sites seem to be down. It's Thursday a.m. on February 6. Carol At 12:10 AM 2/2/03 -0800, Dan Langille wrote: >The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical >examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly >to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people >know what's available on the website. Before you post a question >here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list >archives >and/or The FreeBSD Diary . > >These are the articles posted during this period: > >28-Jan : Open Source Weekend - conference report > OSW was a great event > http://freebsddiary.org/osw-2003.php?2 > >21-Jan : Amazon, OSW, and my thanks > More features, more advocacy, and more appreciation > http://freebsddiary.org/index.html?2 > > >-- >Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited >The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples >FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports >FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 6 8:59:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB8237B401 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FBA43FE1 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:59:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jshowatt@attbi.com) Received: from ddb8qj11 (c-66-41-166-165.mn.client2.attbi.com[66.41.166.165]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53) with SMTP id <20030206165911053003lqcfe>; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:59:12 +0000 Message-ID: <011101c2ce01$10ba2900$a5a62942@DDB8QJ11> From: "jshowatt" To: "WolfRyder" , References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030206095501.00a9fcb0@pop.omah.uswest.net> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-01-12 - 2003-02-01 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:59:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "WolfRyder" > I've tried getting to the The FreeBSD Diary > site, the http://www.FreshPorts.org/ and http://www.FreshSource.org/ . The > sites seem to be down. It's Thursday a.m. on February 6. ditto. steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 6 10:59:56 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6FB237B401 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF3643F75 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:59:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nyogtha@flipp.net) Received: from LAPDANCE (deathpolka.nyogtha.org [217.13.20.12]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with SMTP id 85A987881B for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:59:46 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <008401c2ce11$eebfd370$3800000a@LAPDANCE> From: "Aslak Evang" To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030206095501.00a9fcb0@pop.omah.uswest.net> <011101c2ce01$10ba2900$a5a62942@DDB8QJ11> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary: 2003-01-12 - 2003-02-01 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:59:52 +0100 Organization: THS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "WolfRyder" > > >> I've tried getting to the The FreeBSD Diary >> site, the http://www.FreshPorts.org/ and >> http://www.FreshSource.org/ . The sites seem to be down. It's Thursday >> a.m. on February 6. > > ditto. > > steve > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message I'm on the mailinglist for freebsddiary.org ... got a mail today saying he's having big problems with his ISP and can't get a hold of them. He's trying to get a new ISP and will get the pages back up as soon as he can. - Aslak To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 6 11:47:19 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C17337B401; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.com (cs26207-212.hot.rr.com [24.26.207.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDF4E43FCB; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:47:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tl@mail.com) From: "Training Line" Subject: Êëþ÷åâûå íàâûêè êîììóíèêàöèé Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 22:46:51 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20030206194703.CDF4E43FCB@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Êëþ÷åâûå íàâûêè êîììóíèêàöèè. Êóðñ äëÿ ðóêîâîäèòåëÿ. Ïðåçåíòàöèè, ñîâåùàíèÿ, ïåðåãîâîðû.
    "17-19 ôåâðàëÿ"
    â Ó÷åáíîì öåíòðå Training Line ïðîâîäèòñÿ êóðñ

    Êëþ÷åâûå íàâûêè êîììóíèêàöèè. Êóðñ äëÿ ðóêîâîäèòåëÿ. Ïðåçåíòàöèè, ñîâåùàíèÿ, ïåðåãîâîðû.

    Êóðñ ïðåäíàçíà÷åí: äëÿ ðóêîâîäèòåëåé îðãàíèçàöèé è ïîäðàçäåëåíèé.

     ðåãëàìåíòå êóðñà ïðàêòè÷åñêè îòñóòñòâóåò òåîðåòè÷åñêèé ìàòåðèàë. Ñîîòíîøåíèå òåîðèè è ïðàêòèêè - 20/80.  õîäå òðåíèíãà ñëóøàòåëè ó÷àñòâóþò â äåëîâûõ èãðàõ, ñîïðîâîæäàåìûõ âèäåî-ñúåìêîé äëÿ ôóíêöèîíàëüíîãî àíàëèçà ïîâåäåíèÿ êàæäîãî èç ó÷àñòíèêîâ.
    Äîñòîèíñòâî òðåíèíãà â òîì, ÷òî íà íåì àíàëèçèðóåòñÿ êîíêðåòíàÿ ïðîáëåìà êàæäîãî ñëóøàòåëÿ. Òàêèì îáðàçîì, èñïîëüçóåòñÿ èíäèâèäóàëüíûé êîììóíèêàòèâíûé ñòèëü, êîòîðûé ïîçâîëÿåò ðåøèòü êîíêðåòíóþ ñèòóàöèþ äëÿ ñëóøàòåëÿ.
    Ðåêîìåíäàöèÿ òðåíåðà - äëÿ ìàêñèìàëüíîé ýôôåêòèâíîñòè ñëóøàòåëü äîëæåí çàðàíåå ñôîðìóëèðîâàòü âñå ñâîè ïðîáëåìû, êîòîðûå îí õîòåë áû ðåøèòü â ïðîöåññå òðåíèíãà. Öåëü òðåíèíãà - íå ïîñëóøàòü î òîì, êàê íàäî ïðîâîäèòü êîììóíèêàòèâíûå àêöèè â ïðèíöèïå, à ïðèîáðåñòè ïðàêòè÷åñêèé îïûò êîììóíèêàòèâíûõ àêöèé ñ ó÷åòîì èíäèâèäóàëüíûõ ïñèõîëîãè÷åñêèõ îñîáåííîñòåé.

    Ñîäåðæàíèå:

    1. Ïîñòàíîâêà çàäà÷ àóäèòîðèè.
    Îïðåäåëåíèå ñâîèõ öåëåé è ãðàíèö óñïåõà

    • Àíàëèç öåëåé è ïðèîðèòåòîâ ïðåçåíòàöèè, ïåðåãîâîðíîé ñèòóàöèè, ñîâåùàíèÿ è äð.
    • Âûðàáîòêà ñèñòåìû êðèòåðèåâ óñïåõà ïðåçåíòàöèè
    • Îïðåäåëåíèå ñèëüíûõ è ñëàáûõ ñòîðîí
    • Îïðåäåëåíèå ðåàëüíûõ ãðàíèö ñòèëÿ ïðåçåíòàöèè
    • Ýìîöèîíàëüíûå "ñïåöýôôåêòû": êàê ñäåëàòü ïðåçåíòàöèþ çàïîìèíàþùåéñÿ?
    2. Àíàëèç àóäèòîðèè è âûðàáîòêà ëîãè÷åñêîé àðãóìåíòàöèè
    • Êàðòèíà ìèðà àóäèòîðèè: ïðàâèëà è öåííîñòè
    • Ôàêòîðíûé àíàëèç öåëåé è ïðèîðèòåòîâ àóäèòîðèè
    • Ïîñòðîåíèå ñõåìû ñîâïàäåíèÿ öåëåé ïðåçåíòàòîðà è àóäèòîðèè
    • Ïîñòðîåíèå ñèñòåìû àðãóìåíòîâ â ïîëüçó ïðåçåíòàòîðà
    • Ïðîäóìûâàíèå êîíòð-àðãóìåíòîâ äëÿ ðàáîòû ñ âîçðàæåíèÿìè
    • "Âêóñíûå" èñòîðèè: case studies, success stories, àíåêäîòû, áûëè è äðóãîå
    • Âûáîð è îïðåäåëåíèå ñòèëÿ ïðåçåíòàöèè â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñî ñòèëåì àóäèòîðèè
    3. Òåõíèêà ïóáëè÷íûõ âûñòóïëåíèé
    • Àêòåðñêîå èñêóññòâî è èìèäæ: êàê ñäåëàòü çàðàíåå ïîäãîòîâëåííîå âûñòóïëåíèå æèâûì?
    • Ñàìîðåãóëÿöèÿ: êàê ðàçâèòü óâåðåííîñòü â ñåáå è ïðåîäîëåòü ñòðåññ?
    • Ðàáîòà ñ êîììóíèêàöèåé: êàê íàëàæèâàòü è ïîääåðæèâàòü êîíòàêò ñ àóäèòîðèåé? Êàê ñïðàâëÿòüñÿ ñ "òðóäíûìè" ó÷àñòíèêàìè?
    • Êàê ðàáîòàòü ñ àãðåññèåé, êîíôëèêòîì, ñêðûòûìè ìîòèâàìè?
    • Èñêóññòâî èìïðîâèçàöèè: êàê ðàáîòàòü ñ îòêëèêîì àóäèòîðèè?
    • Ýôôåêòèâíîå çàâåðøåíèå ïðåçåíòàöèè
    • Äåëîâà èãðà "Ïðåçåíòàöèÿ (è\èëè Ñîâåùàíèå)"
    4. Âåäåíèå ïåðåãîâîðîâ
    • Èíòåðàêòèâíàÿ ëåêöèÿ: "Åñòåñòâåííûå" òåõíèêè êîììóíèêàöèè â ÷åëîâå÷åñêèõ ñîîáùåñòâàõ.
    • Óïðàæíåíèå íà ñëûøàíèå ïàðòíåðà ïî êîììóíèêàöèè.
    • Òåõíèêè ýôôåêòèâíîé êîììóíèêàöèè. Ñåðèÿ óïðàæíåíèé íà âíóøåíèå è ïðîòèâîñòîÿíèå âíóøåíèþ: óñòíûé ôîðìàò.
    5. Äåëîâàÿ èãðà "Ïåðåãîâîðû": îöåíêà ïåðåãîâîðîâ, âûáîð ýôôåêòèâíîé òàêòèêè è ñòðàòåãèè îáùåíèÿ, ïðîâåäåíèå è àíàëèç ïåðåãîâîðîâ.

     êà÷åñòâå ïðàêòè÷åñêîãî ìàòåðèàëà èñïîëüçóþòñÿ ñëåäóþùèå óïðàæíåíèÿ:
    1. Case studies è success stories – ðàçáîð êîíêðåòíûõ ñèòóàöèé è òàê íàçûâàåìûå «èñòîðèè óñïåõà».
    2. Äåëîâûå èãðû ïî îòðàáîòêå íàâûêîâ ïðîâåäåíèÿ ñîâåùàíèé, ïåðåãîâîðîâ è ïðåçåíòàöèé.



    Àâòîð:

    Ïåòðîâà Íàòàëüÿ Ïåòðîâíà - êàíäèäàò ïåäàãîãè÷åñêèõ íàóê, äîêòîðàíò Ðîññèéñêîãî Èíñòèòóòà Êóëüòóðîëîãèè.

    Ñðåäè êëèåíòîâ - "Ñåâåðíûå Âåòðû äèñòðèáüþøí" - "Ïèâîâàðíè Èâàíà Òàðàíîâà", "Êîíñóëüòàíò+", ÈÄ "Îòêðûòûå ñèñòåìû", ÎÎÎ "Öåíòð íåôòåãàçîâîãî áèçíåñà", æóðíàë "Äåëîâàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ", ÈÄ "Àéðèñ-Ïðåññ", Ñåðâèñíûé Öåíòð Honda "Àîÿìà ìîòîðç ", òîðãîâûå äîìà Êðàñíûé Êóá è Ýêîíèêà, ñòðîèòåëüíûå êîìïàíèè ÔÑÊ "Þíèôîðìñòðîé" è ÇÀÎ "Çàïàäíûé Ìîñò", ÇÀÎ " Êîñìîñ ÒÂ", ÎÀÎ "Àëìàçíûé ìèð", Òî÷êà îïîðû , Èñòîê-Àóäèî Òðåéäèíã, ÑÈÒÝÑ-êîíäèöèîíåð , ÐÈÀË Ñèñòåìç, Àëüâèñ Ïëþñ, ÇÀÎ "Äîìèð", ÀÎ Þíèìåä, ÇÀÎ "ÀÌÒ" ÌÃÒÑ, õîëäèíã "Global Edge", ÇÀÎ "Òåõêðèïýíåðãî", Ôèíêðàñêà-ÔÊ, Êàðåëèÿ Åâðîèìýêñ ÄÑÏ, òóðèñòè÷åñêîå àãåíòñòâî "Ìàêñ-Àâèà", Ìîñêîâñêèé Èíäóñòðèàëüíûé Áàíê è äðóãèå.

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 6 18:15: 3 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5584537B401 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.shadow.net (mail.shadow.net [65.166.1.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9095643FAF for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:15:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phoenix@shadow.net) Received: from shadow.net (08-173.121.popsite.net [66.217.99.173]) by mail.shadow.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h172GwpV004859 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:17:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E445BB9.5060102@shadow.net> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 20:22:01 -0500 From: Dave User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies Subject: Thank you (Was Optical Mouse ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd like to thank those of you who offered me advise on getting my optical mouse to work. I followed your lead and purchased a logitech optical mouse and it works great! Thank you ! - Dave - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 7 2: 4:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BBD37B401 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 02:04:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp04.iprimus.com.au (smtp04.iprimus.com.au [210.50.76.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F3743FA3 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 02:04:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jamesbuch@iprimus.com.au) Received: from smtp01.iprimus.net.au (210.50.30.70) by smtp04.iprimus.com.au (6.7.010) id 3E41F72300036F98 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:04:35 +1100 Received: from windows ([211.26.149.89]) by smtp01.iprimus.net.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:04:35 +1100 Message-ID: <000501c2ce90$14255a80$59951ad3@windows> From: "James Buchanan" To: Subject: Source tarball Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:02:52 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2003 10:04:35.0267 (UTC) FILETIME=[51327930:01C2CE90] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to find the gzipped source tarball of the FreeBSD kernel, can someone tell me where it is? Thanks, -- James To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 7 4:15:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E52037B405 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 04:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-02.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A514B43F93 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 04:15:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from FlowerCrux@iinet.net.au) Received: (qmail 23287 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2003 12:15:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iinet.net.au) (203.217.19.125) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2003 12:15:02 -0000 Message-ID: <3E43A2F5.6080903@iinet.net.au> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 23:13:41 +1100 From: Adi B User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: James Buchanan Subject: Re: Source tarball References: <000501c2ce90$14255a80$59951ad3@windows> In-Reply-To: <000501c2ce90$14255a80$59951ad3@windows> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey James, I'm not really a guru, but on a cd check /src.. On a freebsd system check /usr/src .. Just cause they seem to be the most obvious place to be.. If you can use the cvs system then check http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#cvs Hope that helps, I realize its not really what you asked. Regards, Adi.. James Buchanan wrote: > I am trying to find the gzipped source tarball of the FreeBSD kernel, > can someone tell me where it is? > > Thanks, > > -- > James > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 7 9:15:31 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D314D37B401 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from alvin.unc.edu.ar (alvin.unc.edu.ar [170.210.248.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1078343FBD for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:15:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meschoyez@gtwing.efn.uncor.edu) Received: from gtwing.efn.uncor.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alvin.unc.edu.ar (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h17HFPY08631 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:15:25 -0300 Received: from lcd (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gtwing.efn.uncor.edu (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h17HDpI22973 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:13:53 -0300 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:20:33 -0300 (ART) From: Maxi X-Sender: meschoyez@lcd.efn.uncor.edu To: Newbies Subject: [Solved] Re: Redirecting output in XFree86-4 under 5.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <3E413FF5.2060300@motorola.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It works now!!! :-) The solution was very simple: $ startx -listen_tcp because now the default flag for xinit is '-nolisten tcp'. I think this change was made for security reasons. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 7 19:10:20 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E244837B401 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F68643F75 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:10:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h183AFNS033350 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:10:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h183AFl1033348 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:10:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:10:15 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200302080310.h183AFl1033348@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 8 6:57:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5277C37B401 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 06:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net (mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net [63.231.195.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9ED4B43FAF for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2003 06:57:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfryder@qwest.net) Received: (qmail 87021 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2003 14:57:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (63.231.195.13) by mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 8 Feb 2003 14:57:49 -0000 Received: from adsl189.omah.uswest.net (HELO wolf.qwest.net) (209.180.104.189) by mpls-pop-13.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2003 14:57:49 -0000 Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 09:02:35 -0600 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030208084734.00a931b0@pop.omah.uswest.net> From: "WolfRyder" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Sender: wolfryder@pop.omah.uswest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Subject: Zip Drive Backups Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I've progressed, moving right along. Before I set up security on my box I thought it would be a good idea to backup some vital files (after exploding the whole thing 3 times, you'da thought I learned earlier, eh? lol!) I finally got the zip drive mounted and working. I figured out how to .tgz files and manually copy them to the zip drive. I've looked at BSDdocs, the Man pages, some how-tos, Absolute BSD by Michael Lucas (a very good book, btw) and even asked my network admin spouse, but still can't figure out how to make the files go to the zip without manually typing the command to go there # cp [filename.tgz] [destination] or # mv filename.tgz] [destination] The instructions I found for backup were for tape backup, not zip drive. Any suggestions? Any articles out there I missed (I'm sure there are and I just didn't know where to look for them)? The commands for tape backup don't work with zip drives (I tried them). Thanks in advance, Carol To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message