From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 01:10:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5414516A4CE; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:10:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF24243F75; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:10:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-7.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.7]) hAU9AeZG015100; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:10:40 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 19:10:39 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Kirkwood References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 09:10:45 -0000 Hi Mark, > ok> boot -s > panic: free: guard1 fail @:0x7f20 from > /mnt/home/freebsd/freefall/src/sys/boot/common/devopen.c: 0x3a I hadn't seen that with the loader from the last drop, but I've subsequently seen it. Try a brand-spanking-new loader from: http://www.ptree32.com.au/freebsd/loader.113003 This has a number of fixes/additions: - FICL is now supported (beastie.4th works). - both hybrid-HFS and 'normal' ISOs are supported - the load address is 0x1c00000 to give more space for modules/ramdisks - correct heap size passed to libstand, no more bizarre errors are a result of unhandled malloc failure - signed char fixes in libstand/zalloc (e.g. guard1/guard2 false positives) Still todo: - HFS+ read-only filesys in libstand, about half done. - passing of currdev as a parameter from OpenFirmware e.g. 0 > boot hd:,loader -c hd:13 - __syncicache doesn't use correct cacheline size on G5 later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 10:48:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8957C16A4CE; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:48:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACE543FAF; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:48:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAUImrvX036053; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:48:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hAUImrXC036047; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:48:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:48:53 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20031130184852.GA35925@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:48:56 -0000 On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 07:10:39PM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: > >ok> boot -s > >panic: free: guard1 fail @:0x7f20 from > >/mnt/home/freebsd/freefall/src/sys/boot/common/devopen.c: 0x3a > > I hadn't seen that with the loader from the last drop, but I've > subsequently seen it. Try a brand-spanking-new loader from: > > http://www.ptree32.com.au/freebsd/loader.113003 Can one build this loader from CVS sources? From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 15:47:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75AE16A4CE; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86C043FB1; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:47:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from ptree32.com.au (CPE-30-7.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.7]) hAUNl3ZG017769; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:47:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Message-ID: <3FCA8176.8040308@ptree32.com.au> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:47:02 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <20031130184852.GA35925@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20031130184852.GA35925@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:47:07 -0000 > Can one build this loader from CVS sources? Not yet. Should find out this week if my fried disk (and freebsd.org ssh keys) is recoverable. Diffs are available at: www.ptree32.com.au/freebsd/libstand.diff /sys.boot.diff later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 23:48:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F3E16A4CE; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from linda-1.paradise.net.nz (bm-1a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.58.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3408C43FAF; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:48:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (smtp-3a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.196]) by linda-1.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0HP70039UHPF5L@linda-1.paradise.net.nz>; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:48:51 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from paradise.net.nz (203-96-145-217.adsl.paradise.net.nz [203.96.145.217]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB13ADF1F; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:48:51 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:43:04 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> To: Peter Grehan Message-id: <3FCAF108.9080904@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031008 References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 07:48:55 -0000 Yep - looks good for booting now! - in fact a little too good : 'boot -s' seems to just do 'boot'. I am seeing a whole lot of 'read only filesystem' failures, and am faced with a login prompt - which of course I cannot successfully get through. at least its progress :-) Mark Peter Grehan wrote: > Hi Mark, > >> ok> boot -s >> panic: free: guard1 fail @:0x7f20 from >> /mnt/home/freebsd/freefall/src/sys/boot/common/devopen.c: 0x3a > > > I hadn't seen that with the loader from the last drop, but I've > subsequently seen it. Try a brand-spanking-new loader from: > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 00:39:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E3516A4D0; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:39:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from linda-2.paradise.net.nz (bm-2a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.58.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39EE43FBF; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:39:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (smtp-3a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.196]) by linda-2.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0HP700F9NK1T6S@linda-2.paradise.net.nz>; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:39:29 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from paradise.net.nz (203-96-145-217.adsl.paradise.net.nz [203.96.145.217]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4308CAE0F7; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:39:29 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:33:42 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <3FCAF108.9080904@paradise.net.nz> To: Mark Kirkwood Message-id: <3FCAFCE6.7000702@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031008 References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <3FCAF108.9080904@paradise.net.nz> cc: Peter Grehan cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:39:33 -0000 hmmm - looks like I need to lead the loader by the nose : OK> set hw.syscons.disable=1 OK> set currdev=hd:11 OK> unload OK> boot /boot/kernel/kernel -s gets a single user shell [off to see if he can get multi user to work...] regards Mark Mark Kirkwood wrote: > Yep - looks good for booting now! > > - in fact a little too good : > > 'boot -s' seems to just do 'boot'. > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 00:45:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743B016A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D920B43FDD for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:45:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-7.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.7]) hB18jYZG019765; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:45:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FCAFFAD.7020102@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 18:45:33 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Kirkwood References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <3FCAF108.9080904@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFCE6.7000702@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <3FCAFCE6.7000702@paradise.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:45:37 -0000 Hi Mark, > hmmm - looks like I need to lead the loader by the nose : > > OK> set hw.syscons.disable=1 > OK> set currdev=hd:11 > OK> unload > OK> boot /boot/kernel/kernel -s I think there's a binary mismatch between the new loader and the syscons'd-kernel - "boot -s" works fine on an up-to-date kernel. But at least there's workarounds - the other is to "set boot_single=yes". > [off to see if he can get multi user to work...] Don't forget to disable sendmail as per the instructions. I've still to track down that problem. Also, with the openfirmware console, full-screen editing really doesn't work. It's almost better to edit the files offline, manually config the net interface and ftp them across. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 01:28:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C510216A4CE; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 01:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from linda-2.paradise.net.nz (bm-2a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.58.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B8D43FBF; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 01:28:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (smtp-1a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.194]) by linda-2.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0HP700FIZMBKG5@linda-2.paradise.net.nz>; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:28:32 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from paradise.net.nz (203-96-145-217.adsl.paradise.net.nz [203.96.145.217]) by smtp-1.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCB482762; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:28:32 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:22:45 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <3FCAFFAD.7020102@freebsd.org> To: Peter Grehan Message-id: <3FCB0865.4090601@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031008 References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <3FCAF108.9080904@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFCE6.7000702@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFFAD.7020102@freebsd.org> cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:28:37 -0000 Peter Grehan wrote: > > I think there's a binary mismatch between the new loader and > the syscons'd-kernel - "boot -s" works fine on an up-to-date > kernel. But at least there's workarounds - the other is to > "set boot_single=yes". hmm...that was the set option I was looking for...guess I didnt read the handbook carefully enough. > Don't forget to disable sendmail as per the instructions. I've > still to track down that problem. Also, with the openfirmware > console, full-screen editing really doesn't work. It's almost > better to edit the files offline, manually config the net interface > and ftp them across. Yep, sendmail all disabled. We are up multi-user - the networking even works. very cool. Now have to get bash and a few other things... Is it feasible to attempt a build of X at this stage? regards Mark From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 01:31:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED17516A4CE; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 01:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B669D43FB1; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 01:31:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE9F7061C; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:31:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05938-04; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:31:24 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A4C8570614; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:31:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:31:24 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: Mark Kirkwood Message-ID: <20031201093124.GJ99704@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <3FCAF108.9080904@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFCE6.7000702@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFFAD.7020102@freebsd.org> <3FCB0865.4090601@paradise.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FCB0865.4090601@paradise.net.nz> X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net cc: Peter Grehan cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 09:31:30 -0000 Mark Kirkwood (markir) writes: > Yep, sendmail all disabled. We are up multi-user - the networking even > works. very cool. For reference, what is your system ? Maybe we could sum this up somewhere. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 05:10:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D81116A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 05:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0078043FBD for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 05:10:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-7.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.7]) hB1DAXZG020093; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:10:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FCB3DC8.4090401@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:10:32 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Kirkwood References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <3FCAF108.9080904@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFCE6.7000702@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFFAD.7020102@freebsd.org> <3FCB0865.4090601@paradise.net.nz> In-Reply-To: <3FCB0865.4090601@paradise.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:10:40 -0000 Hi Mark, > Now have to get bash and a few other things... > Is it feasible to attempt a build of X at this stage? The server, no, but I can't see any reason why client libs wouldn't build. It would be a good test. I'm hoping the X server won't be too much of a problem since the graphics h/w on Macs is pretty much standard PCI/AGP stuff, and it already runs on NetBSD/OpenBSD/Linux PPC. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 05:58:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9606616A4CE; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 05:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF5A43F85; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 05:58:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1Dwnqt021357 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:58:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id hB1DwiQ33710; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:58:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16331.18708.397854.762386@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:58:44 -0500 (EST) To: Peter Grehan In-Reply-To: <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:58:51 -0000 Peter Grehan writes: > - __syncicache doesn't use correct cacheline size on G5 FYI, Here's what happens when I try to netboot using this loader on a 2.0GHz dual G5: <...> /boot/kernel/kernel data=0x2ce6d0+0x7f5b8 - Decrementer Exception at %SRR0: 00000000.01c269fc %SRR1: 10000000.00003030 ok 0 > I apologize for any errors in transcription -- no serial console for this box. Drew From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 07:20:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B8816A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15CA43FEC for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:20:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joeldiaz@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hB1FOFcq028788 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:24:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (adsl-156-247-73.mia.bellsouth.net [68.156.247.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id hB1FKDaN000102 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 07:20:14 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) In-Reply-To: <20031201093124.GJ99704@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <3FCAF108.9080904@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFCE6.7000702@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFFAD.7020102@freebsd.org> <3FCB0865.4090601@paradise.net.nz> <20031201093124.GJ99704@moof.catpipe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joel Diaz Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:20:12 -0500 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:20:20 -0000 On Dec 1, 2003, at 4:31 AM, Phil Regnauld wrote: > Mark Kirkwood (markir) writes: >> Yep, sendmail all disabled. We are up multi-user - the networking even >> works. very cool. > > For reference, what is your system ? Maybe we could sum this up > somewhere. I've documented the steps I took to be able to build and test the sources from CURRENT. Some simple modifications would have it work with the tarball that was posted last month. I could put it online if anyone is interested. Joel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 08:44:10 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C668D16A4CE; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C85043FCB; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:42:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4894A7062C; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:42:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28534-07; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:42:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 385FF7062B; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:42:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:42:51 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20031201164251.GE27722@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:44:11 -0000 Peter Grehan (grehan) writes: > Hi Mark, > > >ok> boot -s > >panic: free: guard1 fail @:0x7f20 from > >/mnt/home/freebsd/freefall/src/sys/boot/common/devopen.c: 0x3a > > I hadn't seen that with the loader from the last drop, but I've > subsequently seen it. Try a brand-spanking-new loader from: > > http://www.ptree32.com.au/freebsd/loader.113003 This fixed my '\' character at the loader prompt, and more importantly, my panic! With luck I'll be finished installing and running multi-user later tonight. :) From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 09:05:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E185916A4CE; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:05:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67ADF43FCB; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:05:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7E170631; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:05:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29597-05; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:05:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 22AEF7062E; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:05:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:05:49 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld Message-ID: <20031201170549.GG27722@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <20031201164251.GE27722@moof.catpipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031201164251.GE27722@moof.catpipe.net> X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net cc: Peter Grehan cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:05:59 -0000 Phil Regnauld (regnauld+ppc) writes: > > http://www.ptree32.com.au/freebsd/loader.113003 > > This fixed my '\' character at the loader prompt, and more importantly, > my panic! With luck I'll be finished installing and running multi-user > later tonight. :-/ At this point of the unpacking: [...] ./usr/share/syscons/fonts/cp850-8x14.fnt panic: vn_pageout_flush: partially invalid page 0xe03b0440 index 0/1 Stopped at 0x3496f3: lwz r0, r1, 0x14 db> where ... at vm_pageout_flush at vm_pageout_clean at vm_pageout_scan at vm_pageout at fork_exit at fork_trampoline saved LR(0x7c0802a2) is invalid. db> From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:20:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736B816A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0519B43F85 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:20:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joeldiaz@bellsouth.net) Received: from [192.168.2.21] ([68.156.247.73]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.netESMTP <20031201192047.DXXJ1903.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[192.168.2.21]>; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:20:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20031201163412.GD27722@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <3FCAF108.9080904@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFCE6.7000702@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFFAD.7020102@freebsd.org> <3FCB0865.4090601@paradise.net.nz> <20031201093124.GJ99704@moof.catpipe.net> <20031201163412.GD27722@moof.catpipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <758FEEB0-2433-11D8-810F-00039345D7C6@bellsouth.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joel Diaz Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:20:44 -0500 To: Phil Regnauld X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:20:56 -0000 On Dec 1, 2003, at 11:34 AM, Phil Regnauld wrote: > Joel Diaz (joeldiaz) writes: >>> For reference, what is your system ? Maybe we could sum this up >>> somewhere. >> >> I've documented the steps I took to be able to build and test the >> sources from CURRENT. Some simple modifications would have it work >> with the tarball that was posted last month. I could put it online if >> anyone is interested. > > This would be greatly appreciated. This maybe has its place at the > PPC > project page ? I put up the page at http://homepage.mac.com/joeldiaz/freebsd/FreeBSD_PPC_Installation.html. Let me know if you see anything wrong in it. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:22:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8539916A4CE; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from linda-3.paradise.net.nz (bm-3a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.58.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1772143FAF; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:22:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (smtp-3a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.196]) by linda-3.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0HP800CORDT2FV@linda-3.paradise.net.nz>; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:22:14 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from paradise.net.nz (203-96-145-229.adsl.paradise.net.nz [203.96.145.229]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5045ADF17; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:22:13 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:16:26 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <20031201093124.GJ99704@moof.catpipe.net> To: Phil Regnauld Message-id: <3FCB938A.9000502@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031008 References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <3FCAF108.9080904@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFCE6.7000702@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFFAD.7020102@freebsd.org> <3FCB0865.4090601@paradise.net.nz> <20031201093124.GJ99704@moof.catpipe.net> cc: Peter Grehan cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:22:46 -0000 It's a 1999 300Mhz Blueberry ibook M2453 Phil Regnauld wrote: >Mark Kirkwood (markir) writes: > > >>Yep, sendmail all disabled. We are up multi-user - the networking even >>works. very cool. >> >> > > For reference, what is your system ? Maybe we could sum this up > somewhere. > > > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:24:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A25D16A4CE; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:24:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB0243F93; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:24:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C8270631; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:24:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 36453-08; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:24:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 83EA27062F; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:24:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:24:21 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: Peter Grehan , Mark Kirkwood , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031201192421.GJ27722@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <20031201164251.GE27722@moof.catpipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031201164251.GE27722@moof.catpipe.net> X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:24:34 -0000 Ok, after being persistent (tar xjkbf is your friend so you don't have to start over from scratch every time), I got the tarball installed. VM activity seems to panic the system here and there. I need to get a serial console up and running -- zstty0 and zstty1 are probed, but where the heck are these located physically on a G4 ? As soon as I get the info for cross building world, I'll try and bring the system up to date. Phil From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 11:50:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9983C16A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:50:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from linda-1.paradise.net.nz (bm-1a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.58.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB04A43FBF for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 11:50:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from markir@paradise.net.nz) Received: from smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (smtp-3a.paradise.net.nz [202.0.32.196]) by linda-1.paradise.net.nz (Paradise.net.nz) with ESMTP id <0HP800ATRF4OB7@linda-1.paradise.net.nz> for freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:50:48 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from paradise.net.nz (203-96-145-229.adsl.paradise.net.nz [203.96.145.229]) by smtp-3.paradise.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A8CADF9A; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:50:48 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:45:01 +1300 From: Mark Kirkwood In-reply-to: <758FEEB0-2433-11D8-810F-00039345D7C6@bellsouth.net> To: Joel Diaz Message-id: <3FCB9A3D.5060108@paradise.net.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031008 References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <3FCAF108.9080904@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFCE6.7000702@paradise.net.nz> <3FCAFFAD.7020102@freebsd.org> <3FCB0865.4090601@paradise.net.nz> <20031201093124.GJ99704@moof.catpipe.net> <20031201163412.GD27722@moof.catpipe.net> <758FEEB0-2433-11D8-810F-00039345D7C6@bellsouth.net> cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:50:52 -0000 Looks good except for typo in (4) - [ it is from the original install.html ]: 0 > boot hd:,\loader .... can't load 'kernel' 0 > set currdev=hd:13 (or whatever partition was used) 0 > set boot_single 0 > boot -s should read .... can't load 'kernel' OK > set currdev=hd:13 (or whatever partition was used) OK > set boot_single OK > boot -s Joel Diaz wrote: > > I put up the page at > http://homepage.mac.com/joeldiaz/freebsd/FreeBSD_PPC_Installation.html. > Let me know if you see anything wrong in it. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 14:20:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F9016A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.20.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079CA43F75 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 14:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au) Received: from elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au (elkanah.its.unimelb.edu.au [128.250.18.41])hB1MK222002738 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:20:02 +1100 (EST) From: JacobRhoden Organization: University of Melbourne To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:20:02 +1100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20031201133128.1eee8ecf.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20031201190146.GB2357@submonkey.net> <20031201142854.2b73585e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20031201142854.2b73585e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200312020920.02211.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> Subject: Re: RFC: Restructure of the front page X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:20:43 -0000 Thought you guys might have something to contribute at this time on the docs mailing list (This is copied from freebsd-docs@): On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 06:28 am, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > +
> > > + · i386/SMP
> > > + · Alpha
> > > + · IA64
> > > + · Power PC
> > > + · Sparc
> > > + · More?
> > >

> > > > I'd rather see amd64 there than powerpc, purely because it's pretty much > > finished, and is more current hardware. > > Thats a good idea, i'll make that change in the diff. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 16:07:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513EE16A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:07:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8CC43F75 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:07:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-7.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.7]) hB207GZG021523; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:07:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FCBD7B3.1030307@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:07:15 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phil Regnauld References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <20031201164251.GE27722@moof.catpipe.net> In-Reply-To: <20031201164251.GE27722@moof.catpipe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:07:41 -0000 Hi Phil, > This fixed my '\' character at the loader prompt That was caused by a Forth file being included and not understood by the previous Forth-less loader. >panic: vn_pageout_flush: partially invalid page 0xe03b0440 index 0/1 > Stopped at 0x3496f3: lwz r0, r1, 0x14 I get this panic when untarring on my 128Mb notebook (and the 64Mb B&W G3 :). Still investigating. It's easy to reproduce on machines with more amounts of ram. Just create a file larger than memory size, and then dd it to /dev/zero. When running 'top', free memory gradually drops to zero, and when the pager kicks in the panic happens. >VM activity seems to panic the system here and there. Is it the same panic ? >zstty0 and zstty1 are probed, but where the heck are these >located physically on a G4 ? One is the modem, the other one may not be connected. There are third-party converters that bring out a standard serial port (e.g. Griffin g4Port). later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 22:37:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DA316A4CE; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A38343FCB; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:37:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CE870644; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:37:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 58825-09; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:37:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 049A67063F; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:37:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:37:12 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20031202063712.GA58769@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <20031201164251.GE27722@moof.catpipe.net> <3FCBD7B3.1030307@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FCBD7B3.1030307@freebsd.org> X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 06:37:17 -0000 Peter Grehan (grehan) writes: > > >panic: vn_pageout_flush: partially invalid page 0xe03b0440 index 0/1 > > Stopped at 0x3496f3: lwz r0, r1, 0x14 > > I get this panic when untarring on my 128Mb notebook (and the 64Mb > B&W G3 :). Still investigating. > > It's easy to reproduce on machines with more amounts of ram. Just > create a file larger than memory size, and then dd it to /dev/zero. I just did that -- to create a swap file :) > >VM activity seems to panic the system here and there. > > Is it the same panic ? No, there's another one regarding a free page, still in the vm_* area. So far I was able to compile bash (and apache, for kicks) -- seems to me that the ATA disks are running in PIO mode, even though I can't explicitly see it (atacontrol doesn't say anything special), I see 85-95% interrupts when untarring something with many files. I tried to build world on my x86 machine last night (5.2-BETA), and IT panic'ed in the middle of compiling some PPC code :-( From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 23:44:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A4E16A4CE for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:44:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B913E43FBD for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:44:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-7.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.7]) hB27iZZG023649; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:44:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FCC42E2.8040200@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:44:34 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phil Regnauld References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <20031201164251.GE27722@moof.catpipe.net> <3FCBD7B3.1030307@freebsd.org> <20031202063712.GA58769@moof.catpipe.net> In-Reply-To: <20031202063712.GA58769@moof.catpipe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:44:48 -0000 Hi Phil, > So far I was able to compile bash (and apache, for kicks) -- Out of interest, did they run up OK ? > So far I was able to compile bash (and apache, for kicks) -- > seems to me that the ATA disks are running in PIO mode, even though > I can't explicitly see it (atacontrol doesn't say anything special), > I see 85-95% interrupts when untarring something with many files. The hint is in the boot message: ad0: ... at ata0-master BIOSPIO where on a PC it would be "ata0-master UDMA100". DMA on macio ata devices uses the DBDMA dma controller, which is nothing like Intel PIIX-style Ultra-DMA. Getting dma working is on the TODO list. > I tried to build world on my x86 machine last night (5.2-BETA), > and IT panic'ed in the middle of compiling some PPC code :-( ! later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 1 23:47:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BCC16A4CE; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:47:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E0B43FE9; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:47:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767DE7061F; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:47:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60748-09; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:47:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 45A5E70613; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:47:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:47:21 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20031202074721.GB58769@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FBC803E.9040900@paradise.net.nz> <3FBCC515.4080200@freebsd.org> <3FC921CA.1000306@paradise.net.nz> <3FC9B40F.2090500@freebsd.org> <20031201164251.GE27722@moof.catpipe.net> <3FCBD7B3.1030307@freebsd.org> <20031202063712.GA58769@moof.catpipe.net> <3FCC42E2.8040200@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FCC42E2.8040200@freebsd.org> X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Project Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:47:25 -0000 Peter Grehan (grehan) writes: > > > So far I was able to compile bash (and apache, for kicks) -- > > Out of interest, did they run up OK ? Fine, no crashes or anything suspicious. > The hint is in the boot message: > > ad0: ... at ata0-master BIOSPIO Will check tonight -- I had done "dmesg |grep PIO" but don't remember seeing anything. Phil From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 05:13:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F1F16A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-84.apple.com [17.250.248.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2B443FDF for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:12:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hB2DCvDC023442 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:12:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id hB2DCvxO005964 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:12:57 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4AA3CD67-24C9-11D8-9DD0-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org From: David Leimbach Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:13:16 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Subject: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:13:01 -0000 You guys need to use different subject lines :) Somewhere in this thread someone posted instructions on how to build this platform and I was wondering if it was thought to be possible to cross compile this? Dave From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 05:23:54 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE1816A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from risky.niblet.co.uk (risky.niblet.co.uk [80.177.236.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2EC43F75 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:23:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@kittycat.co.uk) Received: from sakura.niblet.co.uk ([192.168.0.3] helo=sakura) by risky.niblet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1ARAZG-0003MS-GX; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:27:54 +0000 From: "Matt Sealey" To: "David Leimbach" , Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:23:50 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4AA3CD67-24C9-11D8-9DD0-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: RE: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: matt@niblet.co.uk List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:23:54 -0000 If there's a preferred compiler configuration etc. for gcc, someone should make a proper FreeBSD Port of it, so we can all do so ;) I have a FreeBSD 5.1 machine here anyway. Knocking up a PPC version on it for my Pegasos would be a sweet deal. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of David Leimbach > Sent: 02 December 2003 13:13 > To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > Subject: cross compile? > > > You guys need to use different subject lines :) > > Somewhere in this thread someone posted instructions on how to build > this platform and I was wondering if it was thought to be possible to > cross compile this? > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 05:47:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C0B16A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73C143F3F for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:47:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hB2DliK5002564; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:47:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0)hB2DliaN022472; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 05:47:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <27038438-24CE-11D8-9DD0-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:48:04 -0600 To: matt@niblet.co.uk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:47:48 -0000 Quite right :)... I'd be happy with a tarball :). Anyway, it seems I would have to get another hard disk for my computer before I will have room to run FreeBSD CURRENT to build such a thing on. I have an ELF cross compiler for my Mac OS X box though I don't know if that will be enough. Dave On Dec 2, 2003, at 7:23 AM, Matt Sealey wrote: > > If there's a preferred compiler configuration etc. for gcc, someone > should make a proper FreeBSD Port of it, so we can all do so ;) > > I have a FreeBSD 5.1 machine here anyway. Knocking up a PPC version > on it for my Pegasos would be a sweet deal. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of David Leimbach >> Sent: 02 December 2003 13:13 >> To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org >> Subject: cross compile? >> >> >> You guys need to use different subject lines :) >> >> Somewhere in this thread someone posted instructions on how to build >> this platform and I was wondering if it was thought to be possible to >> cross compile this? >> >> Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 17:01:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2A016A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D66043FE3 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:01:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-38.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.38]) hB311VZG025699; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:01:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FCD35E9.80604@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:01:29 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JacobRhoden References: <20031201133128.1eee8ecf.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20031201190146.GB2357@submonkey.net> <20031201142854.2b73585e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <200312020920.02211.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <200312020920.02211.jrhoden@unimelb.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: Restructure of the front page X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:01:34 -0000 > Thought you guys might have something to contribute at this time on the docs > mailing list (This is copied from freebsd-docs@): Thanks for the heads-up. I just saw the new front page, and I guess fair enough, the PPC page hasn't been updated for a long time despite my promises so it doesn't really belong to be in the tier-1/2 links. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 17:04:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38DF16A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723E143FDD for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:04:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-38.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.38]) hB314RZG025703; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:04:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FCD3699.7070405@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:04:25 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Leimbach References: <4AA3CD67-24C9-11D8-9DD0-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <4AA3CD67-24C9-11D8-9DD0-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:04:29 -0000 Hi David, > Somewhere in this thread someone posted instructions on how to build > this platform and I was wondering if it was thought to be possible to > cross compile this? That's how 90% of my development is done. Some things are a bit easier native, but for buildworld, none of my Macs come close to a 2.6G P4. Now maybe if I get a G5... :-) The instructions that Joel posted will work fine. The -DNO_WERROR will be fixed soon. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 17:12:52 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7126C16A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C2243FE1 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:12:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-38.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.38]) hB31CnZG025732; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:12:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FCD388F.1030708@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:12:47 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt@niblet.co.uk References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:12:52 -0000 > I have a FreeBSD 5.1 machine here anyway. Knocking up a PPC version > on it for my Pegasos would be a sweet deal. You're all set - FreeBSD already cross-compiles: cd /usr/src make -DNO_WERROR TARGET_ARCH=powerpc buildworld make -DNO_WERROR TARGET_ARCH=powerpc buildkernel I've made two changes that might be required: RCS file: /usr/home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/powerpc/_fpmath.h,v diff -u -r1.2 _fpmath.h --- _fpmath.h 5 Apr 2003 22:10:13 -0000 1.2 +++ _fpmath.h 18 Nov 2003 02:41:36 -0000 @@ -29,14 +29,13 @@ union IEEEl2bits { long double e; struct { - unsigned int sign :1; - unsigned int exp :15; - unsigned long manh :48; - unsigned long manl :64; + unsigned int sign :1; + unsigned int exp :15; + unsigned long long manh :48; + unsigned long long manl :64; } bits; }; -/* XXX does powerpc have a normalization bit? */ #define mask_nbit_l(u) ((void)0) #define LDBL_IMPLICIT_NBIT RCS file: /usr/home/ncvs/src/sys/conf/kern.mk,v retrieving revision 1.37 diff -u -r1.37 kern.mk --- kern.mk 4 Nov 2003 23:29:17 -0000 1.37 +++ kern.mk 18 Nov 2003 03:42:58 -0000 @@ -68,6 +68,14 @@ .endif # +# For powerpc disable kernel floating point +# +.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "powerpc" +CFLAGS+= -msoft-float +INLINE_LIMIT?= 15000 +.endif + +# # GCC 3.0 and above like to do certain optimizations based on the # assumption that the program is linked against libc. Stop this. # From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 17:16:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A158716A4CE for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3689043FF5 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:16:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-38.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.38]) hB31GcZG025751; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:16:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FCD3974.3000307@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:16:36 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Leimbach References: <27038438-24CE-11D8-9DD0-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <27038438-24CE-11D8-9DD0-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:16:40 -0000 > I have an ELF cross compiler for my Mac OS X box though I don't know if > that will be enough. Nah, cross-building on a non-FreeBSD platform (even another *BSD platform) is a bit of a nightmare due to slight differences in make syntax, utility params etc. You also need a x-compiler built for FreeBSD to get the correct in-built definitions. NetBSD is certainly much better at this: they seem to be able to cross-build on anything vaguely resembling Unix. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 17:48:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8FD16A4CE; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:48:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C4143FCB; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:48:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leimy2k@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hB31mHK5009356; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:48:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (adsl-156-166-212.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.166.212]) (authenticated bits=0)hB31mGxO021252; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:48:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3FCD3974.3000307@freebsd.org> References: <27038438-24CE-11D8-9DD0-000A95AFBEB4@mac.com> <3FCD3974.3000307@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Leimbach Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:48:38 -0600 To: Peter Grehan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:48:18 -0000 On Dec 2, 2003, at 7:16 PM, Peter Grehan wrote: >> I have an ELF cross compiler for my Mac OS X box though I don't know >> if that will be enough. > > Nah, cross-building on a non-FreeBSD platform (even another *BSD > platform) is a bit of a nightmare due to slight differences in make > syntax, utility params etc. > > You also need a x-compiler built for FreeBSD to get the correct > in-built definitions. > > NetBSD is certainly much better at this: they seem to be able to > cross-build on anything vaguely resembling Unix. > > later, Interesting... I am able to use the ELF cross compiler to build the Pistachio variant of L4 just fine... they must have different dependencies though I suppose. Dave > > Peter. > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 02:32:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7183516A4CE; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from risky.niblet.co.uk (risky.niblet.co.uk [80.177.236.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F37B43FAF; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:32:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@kittycat.co.uk) Received: from sakura.niblet.co.uk ([192.168.0.3] helo=sakura) by risky.niblet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1ARUN5-0005e9-Co; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:36:39 +0000 From: "Matt Sealey" To: "Peter Grehan" , Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:32:32 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3FCD388F.1030708@freebsd.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: RE: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: matt@niblet.co.uk List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:32:33 -0000 Okay, FreeBSD 5.1 compiles for PPC using a cross-compiler, I practically expected that. But how do we ./configure the recommended GCC for FreeBSD PPC? What's the "official" target name? -- Matt Sealey > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Grehan [mailto:grehan@freebsd.org] > Sent: 03 December 2003 01:13 > To: matt@niblet.co.uk > Cc: David Leimbach; freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: cross compile? > > > > I have a FreeBSD 5.1 machine here anyway. Knocking up a PPC version > > on it for my Pegasos would be a sweet deal. > > You're all set - FreeBSD already cross-compiles: > > cd /usr/src > make -DNO_WERROR TARGET_ARCH=powerpc buildworld > make -DNO_WERROR TARGET_ARCH=powerpc buildkernel > > I've made two changes that might be required: > > RCS file: /usr/home/ncvs/src/lib/libc/powerpc/_fpmath.h,v > diff -u -r1.2 _fpmath.h > --- _fpmath.h 5 Apr 2003 22:10:13 -0000 1.2 > +++ _fpmath.h 18 Nov 2003 02:41:36 -0000 > @@ -29,14 +29,13 @@ > union IEEEl2bits { > long double e; > struct { > - unsigned int sign :1; > - unsigned int exp :15; > - unsigned long manh :48; > - unsigned long manl :64; > + unsigned int sign :1; > + unsigned int exp :15; > + unsigned long long manh :48; > + unsigned long long manl :64; > } bits; > }; > > -/* XXX does powerpc have a normalization bit? */ > #define mask_nbit_l(u) ((void)0) > #define LDBL_IMPLICIT_NBIT > > RCS file: /usr/home/ncvs/src/sys/conf/kern.mk,v > retrieving revision 1.37 > diff -u -r1.37 kern.mk > --- kern.mk 4 Nov 2003 23:29:17 -0000 1.37 > +++ kern.mk 18 Nov 2003 03:42:58 -0000 > @@ -68,6 +68,14 @@ > .endif > > # > +# For powerpc disable kernel floating point > +# > +.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "powerpc" > +CFLAGS+= -msoft-float > +INLINE_LIMIT?= 15000 > +.endif > + > +# > # GCC 3.0 and above like to do certain optimizations based on the > # assumption that the program is linked against libc. Stop this. > # > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 02:45:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678EB16A4CE for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:45:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAFF43FEC for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:45:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-38.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.38]) hB3AjCZG027653; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:45:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FCDBEB6.4040703@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:45:10 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt@niblet.co.uk References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:45:15 -0000 Hi Matt, > Okay, FreeBSD 5.1 compiles for PPC using a cross-compiler, I > practically expected that. > > But how do we ./configure the recommended GCC for FreeBSD PPC? > What's the "official" target name? Not sure why you'd really want to do that, but the cross-tools use "powerpc-undermydesk-freebsd". The middle tuple doesn't really matter. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 02:49:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C2E16A4CF; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:49:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from risky.niblet.co.uk (risky.niblet.co.uk [80.177.236.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9767F43FE9; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 02:49:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@kittycat.co.uk) Received: from sakura.niblet.co.uk ([192.168.0.3] helo=sakura) by risky.niblet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1ARUdU-0005gG-0x; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:53:36 +0000 From: "Matt Sealey" To: "Peter Grehan" , Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 10:49:23 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3FCDBEB6.4040703@freebsd.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: RE: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: matt@niblet.co.uk List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:49:28 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Grehan [mailto:grehan@freebsd.org] > Sent: 03 December 2003 10:45 > To: matt@niblet.co.uk > Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: cross compile? > > > Hi Matt, > > > Okay, FreeBSD 5.1 compiles for PPC using a cross-compiler, I > > practically expected that. > > > > But how do we ./configure the recommended GCC for FreeBSD PPC? > > What's the "official" target name? > > Not sure why you'd really want to do that, Because i386-unknown-freebsd5.1 doesn't generate ppc code? :) We at first need a cross-compiler to cross-compile :) > use "powerpc-undermydesk-freebsd". The middle tuple doesn't > really matter. Okay cool. I have a ppc-unknown-elf target installed already for other projects, seems it isn't good enough :D -- Matt Sealey From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 03:06:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EE616A4CE for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 03:06:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A3F43FCB for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 03:06:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from ptree32.com.au (CPE-30-38.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.38]) hB3B6BZG027681; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:06:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Message-ID: <3FCDC3A1.4040107@ptree32.com.au> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:06:09 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt@niblet.co.uk References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:06:20 -0000 Hi Matt, > Because i386-unknown-freebsd5.1 doesn't generate ppc code? :) > > We at first need a cross-compiler to cross-compile :) I might not have been clear enough earlier: the FreeBSD buildworld process builds the cross-compiler itself as the first step of the build, setting up the appropriate 'clean' environment so it pulls in correct libs/headers/etc. Rolling your own can kind-of work for just the kernel (I did that for a while), but you're much better off using the sanctioned way. It's a lot less drama. Is that what you wanted to do, buildworld ? Or something more exotic that does require a cross-compiler ? later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 03:15:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA24F16A4CE for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 03:15:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8830843FBF for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 03:15:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-38.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.38]) hB3BFcZG027692; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:15:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FCDC5D8.2050601@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:15:36 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matt@niblet.co.uk References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cross compile? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 11:15:43 -0000 Hi Matt, > Well that might be for later - I assume the buildworld process > doesn't store the compiler for future use? :) It stays around until you clean the tree. Rebuilding a small portion of the tree is a touch verbose, but still possible. For instance, at the moment I'm debugging some code in libstand, and rebuilding the library with: make -DNOCLEAN -DNOLIBC_R TARGET_ARCH=powerpc buildworld SUBDIR_OVERRIDE=lib/libstand later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 07:11:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364D916A4CE; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:11:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7B943FB1; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:11:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from daisy.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.223]) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ARYeb-0000Ny-00; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:11:01 -0800 Message-ID: <8543525.1070464261173.JavaMail.root@daisy.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 07:11:00 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Welch To: grehan@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: iBook powerpc FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean Welch List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:11:06 -0000 Hello! It has been quite a while but I'm still following this list and I'm impressed by the improvements in both build process (cross compile) and capabilities. I was wondering if you could offer a bit of clarification; I noticed you make a distinction between older and newer machines when it comes to using the console. I saw it has something to do with the fact that the newer machines have the keyboard attached via the USB bus (?!?!?) so that something like a powerbook G4 should be able to use the new console code but the old iBook (clamshell '99 era) won't because it has an ADB type keyboard. So if I want to use the console on my iBook I have either to set a line in hints to disable the syscons code and revert to the old OF console or hook a USB keyboard up to it? How is the drive recovery coming? I hope you won't have to scrap it and start over. Particularly as you mentioned your ssh keys are on that disk -- not fun being unable to use the repository! Sean From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 3 08:44:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5D816A4CE for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-87.apple.com [17.250.248.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F95F43FD7 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:44:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joeldiaz@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hB3Gi0MH022066; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.4] (adsl-156-247-73.mia.bellsouth.net [68.156.247.73]) (authenticated bits=0)hB3GhxxO016383; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:43:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8543525.1070464261173.JavaMail.root@daisy.psp.pas.earthlink.net> References: <8543525.1070464261173.JavaMail.root@daisy.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joel Diaz Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 11:43:57 -0500 To: Sean Welch X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:44:02 -0000 On Dec 3, 2003, at 10:11 AM, Sean Welch wrote: > Hello! It has been quite a while but I'm still following this list > and I'm impressed by the improvements in both build process > (cross compile) and capabilities. > > I was wondering if you could offer a bit of clarification; I noticed > you make a distinction between older and newer machines when > it comes to using the console. I saw it has something to do with > the fact that the newer machines have the keyboard attached > via the USB bus (?!?!?) so that something like a powerbook G4 > should be able to use the new console code but the old iBook > (clamshell '99 era) won't because it has an ADB type keyboard. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that all the keyboards on the Apple notebooks use an ADB keyboard. All the ones I've used have had it (I haven't used any recent ones.) The way to check is as follows: Press and hold the caps lock key. Notice how the light turns on as soon as it is pressed down. Now let go and it will stay lit. Now press and hold it again and see how the light stays on while pressed and turns off when you finally let go of the key for the second time. I remember that being a test for whether or not you have an ADB keyboard. I just tried it on my iBook (600MHz), and the behavior on the keyboard on the laptop differs (ie. it's the behavior described above) from that of the USB keyboard which is also attached to my iBook. Joel > So if I want to use the console on my iBook I have either to > set a line in hints to disable the syscons code and revert to the > old OF console or hook a USB keyboard up to it? > > How is the drive recovery coming? I hope you won't have to > scrap it and start over. Particularly as you mentioned your > ssh keys are on that disk -- not fun being unable to use the > repository! > > > Sean > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 04:58:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49AD16A4CE for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 04:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC19B43FDF for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 04:58:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from ptree32.com.au (CPE-30-124.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.124]) hB4CvmZG032246; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:57:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Message-ID: <3FCF2F49.8060101@ptree32.com.au> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:57:45 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joel Diaz References: <8543525.1070464261173.JavaMail.root@daisy.psp.pas.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Sean Welch cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:58:04 -0000 > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that all the > keyboards on the Apple notebooks use an ADB keyboard. Yep, that's correct. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 06:26:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B862F16A4CE for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:26:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E1A43FBD for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 06:26:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from bert.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.217]) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ARuRR-0006hI-00; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:26:53 -0800 Message-ID: <31157242.1070548013129.JavaMail.root@bert.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:26:53 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Sean Welch To: Peter Grehan , Joel Diaz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean Welch List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 14:26:56 -0000 I see. Are there any plans to support this configuration with the new syscons work? Personally I've migrated almost entirely away from desktop machines and use (almost) only laptops my computer needs. Sean -----Original Message----- From: Peter Grehan Sent: Dec 4, 2003 6:57 AM To: Joel Diaz Cc: Sean Welch , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that all the > keyboards on the Apple notebooks use an ADB keyboard. Yep, that's correct. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 16:40:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D679E16A4CE for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830BB43FBD for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-124.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.124]) hB50duZG033777; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:39:57 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FCFD3D9.6080400@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:39:53 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Welch References: <31157242.1070548013129.JavaMail.root@bert.psp.pas.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <31157242.1070548013129.JavaMail.root@bert.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:40:05 -0000 Hi Sean, > I see. Are there any plans to support this configuration with the new > syscons work? Personally I've migrated almost entirely away from > desktop machines and use (almost) only laptops my computer needs. Most definitely. Until it's available, the workaround is to plug a USB keyboard in. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 17:09:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D39916A4CE; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8660A43FBD; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:09:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.242]) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AS4Sv-0002SO-00; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:09:05 -0800 Message-ID: <25111954.1070586545881.JavaMail.root@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:09:05 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Welch To: Peter Grehan , Sean Welch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean Welch List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:09:09 -0000 Hey -- good to hear! I'll see if I can swipe my girlfriend's iMac keyboard (she hasn't turned it on in at least one year -- it's one of the first rev models). How's the crashed hard drive? Any luck? Sean -----Original Message----- From: Peter Grehan Sent: Dec 4, 2003 4:39 PM To: Sean Welch Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD Hi Sean, > I see. Are there any plans to support this configuration with the new > syscons work? Personally I've migrated almost entirely away from > desktop machines and use (almost) only laptops my computer needs. Most definitely. Until it's available, the workaround is to plug a USB keyboard in. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 17:10:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7028616A4CE; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2AA43FA3; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:10:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.242]) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AS4U3-0002j5-00; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:10:15 -0800 Message-ID: <16094659.1070586615824.JavaMail.root@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:10:15 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Welch To: Peter Grehan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean Welch List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:10:17 -0000 Hey -- good to hear! I'll see if I can swipe my girlfriend's iMac keyboard (she hasn't turned it on in at least one year -- it's one of the first rev models). How's the crashed hard drive? Any luck? Sean -----Original Message----- From: Peter Grehan Sent: Dec 4, 2003 4:39 PM To: Sean Welch Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD Hi Sean, > I see. Are there any plans to support this configuration with the new > syscons work? Personally I've migrated almost entirely away from > desktop machines and use (almost) only laptops my computer needs. Most definitely. Until it's available, the workaround is to plug a USB keyboard in. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 17:28:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9A216A4CE for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:28:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB07143FBD for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:28:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Received: from ptree32.com.au (CPE-30-124.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.124]) hB51SGZG033970; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:28:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peterg@ptree32.com.au) Message-ID: <3FCFDF2D.9050406@ptree32.com.au> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:28:13 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Welch References: <25111954.1070586545881.JavaMail.root@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <25111954.1070586545881.JavaMail.root@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:28:23 -0000 Hi Sean, > Hey -- good to hear! I'll see if I can swipe my girlfriend's iMac > keyboard (she hasn't turned it on in at least one year -- it's > one of the first rev models). The revA iMac USB keyboard has been extensively tested :-) > How's the crashed hard drive? Any luck? No luck. The syscons stuff shouldn't be too hard to resurrect from memory but I weep at the thought of the bmac driver :-( later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 19:17:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A7816A4CE for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0543A43F85 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:17:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.242]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AS6Sh-0004hs-00; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 19:16:59 -0800 Message-ID: <33096697.1070594219595.JavaMail.root@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:16:59 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Welch To: Peter Grehan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean Welch List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 03:17:05 -0000 That's too bad about the lost work. I'm a tad confused about the bmac stuff in general. You said it was to support the ethernet port? Is it a rework of something else (I've certainly been able to use my iBook ethernet port without issue...)? Also, not to throw more stuff onto your plate but you may remember we had a short discussion about the wireless card and the iBook modem a while back. At the time you seemed to think that the wireless card wouldn't be too hard to get working; is that still on the docket or has it proven to be more difficult than you originally thought? Or maybe it was forgotten in favor of more important architectural work? (*NOT* pushing here -- just curious...) Sean -----Original Message----- From: Peter Grehan Sent: Dec 4, 2003 5:28 PM To: Sean Welch Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD Hi Sean, > Hey -- good to hear! I'll see if I can swipe my girlfriend's iMac > keyboard (she hasn't turned it on in at least one year -- it's > one of the first rev models). The revA iMac USB keyboard has been extensively tested :-) > How's the crashed hard drive? Any luck? No luck. The syscons stuff shouldn't be too hard to resurrect from memory but I weep at the thought of the bmac driver :-( later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 20:26:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450BB16A4CE for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900BF43FBD for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:26:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-124.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.124]) hB54QNZG034721; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:26:24 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD008EB.7050109@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:26:19 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Welch References: <33096697.1070594219595.JavaMail.root@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <33096697.1070594219595.JavaMail.root@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 04:26:36 -0000 > I'm a tad confused about the bmac stuff in general. You said > it was to support the ethernet port? Is it a rework of something > else (I've certainly been able to use my iBook ethernet port without > issue...)? It's the built-in ethernet on the early iMacs, the beige G3, and the B&W G3. iBooks use the gmac driver, which works fine. > Also, not to throw more stuff onto your plate but you may > remember we had a short discussion about the wireless card > and the iBook modem a while back. At the time you seemed to > think that the wireless card wouldn't be too hard to get working; > is that still on the docket or has it proven to be more difficult than > you originally thought? Or maybe it was forgotten in favor of > more important architectural work? (*NOT* pushing here -- just > curious...) I did have a look, and the code that enables the wireless part of the macio chip was quite hideous, so I thought I'd wait a while until I'd worked out something less of a hack. The 'lost' code has some mods to the top-level macio code to allow underlying devices to enable/disable themselves without poking around in address space that didn't belong to them, and this would have made the wireless attachment a bit simpler. More code to resurrect from dusty memory :-) later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 21:37:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB8216A4CE; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:37:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D9B43FCB; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:37:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.242]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AS8ei-0004sC-00; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:37:32 -0800 Message-ID: <16895740.1070602652242.JavaMail.root@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:37:32 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Welch To: Peter Grehan , Sean Welch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean Welch List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:37:33 -0000 Ah... that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. That macio code sounds like quite a loss... here's hoping more of it stuck in your head than you think!! Sean -----Original Message----- From: Peter Grehan Sent: Dec 4, 2003 8:26 PM To: Sean Welch Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iBook powerpc FreeBSD > I'm a tad confused about the bmac stuff in general. You said > it was to support the ethernet port? Is it a rework of something > else (I've certainly been able to use my iBook ethernet port without > issue...)? It's the built-in ethernet on the early iMacs, the beige G3, and the B&W G3. iBooks use the gmac driver, which works fine. > Also, not to throw more stuff onto your plate but you may > remember we had a short discussion about the wireless card > and the iBook modem a while back. At the time you seemed to > think that the wireless card wouldn't be too hard to get working; > is that still on the docket or has it proven to be more difficult than > you originally thought? Or maybe it was forgotten in favor of > more important architectural work? (*NOT* pushing here -- just > curious...) I did have a look, and the code that enables the wireless part of the macio chip was quite hideous, so I thought I'd wait a while until I'd worked out something less of a hack. The 'lost' code has some mods to the top-level macio code to allow underlying devices to enable/disable themselves without poking around in address space that didn't belong to them, and this would have made the wireless attachment a bit simpler. More code to resurrect from dusty memory :-) later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 22:39:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A6616A4CF for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:39:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2AE43FDF for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:39:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-124.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.124]) hB56dQZG035368 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:39:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD0281B.2000804@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 16:39:23 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Updated loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 06:39:30 -0000 http://www.ptree32.com.au/loader.120503 - accepts a single command-line parameter that can be used to set currdev e.g. 0 > boot enet:,loader hd:13 or more usefully 0 > boot hd:,loader hd:12 - fixed bug where a file offset > 4G was being truncated - a colon wasn't being accepted as an indication of an OpenFirmware device. The symptom was that /etc/fstab wasn't being read in, resulting in the mountroot> prompt always popping up. This also allows device aliases to be used for disk specifiers at the loader prompt e.g. OK ls hd:12/boot later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 4 22:42:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC50A16A4CE for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EB743F85 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:42:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-124.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.124]) hB56gmZG035375 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:42:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD028E5.2070600@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 16:42:45 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FIrewire external drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 06:42:50 -0000 ... seem to work OK with the syscons tarball. I partitioned one up in OSX, untarred the root filesys onto an empty partition, edited fstab to have /dev/da0s12 as root, and using the latest loader, set currdev to "fw/node/sbp-2/disk@0:12," and booted. Seems to work quite well ! later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 10:38:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0037A16A4CE; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62B743FE5; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:38:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD8A70601; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:38:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82008-01; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:38:18 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9BE7870608; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:38:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:38:18 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: Peter Grehan , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031205183818.GB77674@moof.catpipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net Subject: Kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:38:23 -0000 This time it's while trying to unpack the new world I built: kmem_malloc(4096): kmem_map too small: 35684352 total allocated ... at kmem_malloc at page_alloc at slab_zalloc at uma_zone_slab at uma_zalloc_bucket at uma_zallog_arg at getnewvnode at ffs_vget at ffs_valloc at ffs_mkdir at ufs_vnoperate at kern_mkdir at syscall at trap at powerpc_interrupt From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 12:06:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF1D16A4CF; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:06:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F6E43FE9; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:06:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA11170611; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:06:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 85984-06; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:06:46 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 923EC70601; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:06:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:06:46 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20031205200646.GC77674@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FCD388F.1030708@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FCD388F.1030708@freebsd.org> X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Buildworld + new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 20:06:53 -0000 Ok, built world + kernel, installed everything on the NFS server, booted, and it works! (5.2-BETA). The only thing is that they keyboard input is s l o w. It echoes characters back every second at the most, and cannot follow if one types normally. Any ideas ? From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 13:14:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C43616A4CE for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E631F43FCB for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:14:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5LEHqt013137 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hB5LECCh009303; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:14:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16336.62756.56554.414294@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:14:12 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Subject: -msoft-float? -finline-limit=15000 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:14:20 -0000 I assume we want something like the following? Drew Index: kern.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/conf/kern.mk,v retrieving revision 1.37 diff -u -r1.37 kern.mk --- kern.mk 4 Nov 2003 23:29:17 -0000 1.37 +++ kern.mk 5 Dec 2003 21:09:49 -0000 @@ -57,6 +57,16 @@ .endif # +# For powerpc we tell gcc to use floating +# point emulation. This avoids using floating point registers for integer +# operations which it has a tendency to do. +# +.if ${MACHINE_ARCH} == "powerpc" +CFLAGS+= -msoft-float +INLINE_LIMIT?= 15000 +.endif + +# # For AMD64, use a medium model for now. We'll switch to "kernel" # once pmap is ready. Be excessively careful to not generate FPU code. # From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 13:24:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDCF16A4CE; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3299143FF9; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:24:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5LNsqt014203 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:23:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hB5LNnSq009319; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:23:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16336.63333.417610.675929@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:23:49 -0500 (EST) To: Phil Regnauld In-Reply-To: <20031205200646.GC77674@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FCD388F.1030708@freebsd.org> <20031205200646.GC77674@moof.catpipe.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: Peter Grehan cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld + new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:24:13 -0000 Phil Regnauld writes: > Ok, built world + kernel, installed everything on the NFS server, > booted, and it works! (5.2-BETA). The only thing is that they keyboard Cool. Were you able to create a password file? How? vipw, pwd_mkdb, etc, all fail for me, complaining that they are unable to lock the password file. And my NFS server is the wrong endianness.... Thanks, Drew From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:00:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9AE16A4CE for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147A943FA3 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:00:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-124.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.124]) hB5M0eZG039588; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:00:40 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD10004.1000309@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:00:36 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phil Regnauld References: <3FD0281B.2000804@freebsd.org> <20031205165530.GA76873@moof.catpipe.net> In-Reply-To: <20031205165530.GA76873@moof.catpipe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updated loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:00:56 -0000 >>http://www.ptree32.com.au/loader.120503 > > 404 Not Found. Oops, should have been: http://www.ptree32.com.au/freebsd/loader.120503 From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:32:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C7516A4CE; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C0943FCB; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:32:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5MWHqt019343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hB5MWB6C009375; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:32:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16337.1899.841213.22173@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:32:11 -0500 (EST) To: Peter Grehan In-Reply-To: <16336.63333.417610.675929@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <3FCD388F.1030708@freebsd.org> <20031205200646.GC77674@moof.catpipe.net> <16336.63333.417610.675929@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld + new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:32:18 -0000 Andrew Gallatin writes: > > Phil Regnauld writes: > > Ok, built world + kernel, installed everything on the NFS server, > > booted, and it works! (5.2-BETA). The only thing is that they keyboard > > Cool. > > Were you able to create a password file? How? vipw, pwd_mkdb, etc, > all fail for me, complaining that they are unable to lock the password > file. And my NFS server is the wrong endianness.... For what its worth, I'm a moron. I forgot that I needed to start rpcbind, statd, and lockd. Up and running fine now with a diskless env. Sure would be nice if "reboot" worked ;) Drew From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:35:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F48616A4CE for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9571943FAF for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:35:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-124.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.124]) hB5MZ1ZG039627; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:35:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD10811.7050704@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:34:57 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phil Regnauld References: <20031205183818.GB77674@moof.catpipe.net> In-Reply-To: <20031205183818.GB77674@moof.catpipe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:35:14 -0000 > This time it's while trying to unpack the new world I built: > > kmem_malloc(4096): kmem_map too small: 35684352 total allocated How much RAM do you have Phil ? later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:36:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217D416A4CE; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F2543F85; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:36:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FDD70641; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:36:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92567-04; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:36:21 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C52F170659; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:36:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:36:21 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: Peter Grehan Message-ID: <20031205223621.GA91010@moof.catpipe.net> References: <20031205183818.GB77674@moof.catpipe.net> <3FD10811.7050704@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FD10811.7050704@freebsd.org> X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:36:28 -0000 Peter Grehan (grehan) writes: > >This time it's while trying to unpack the new world I built: > > > >kmem_malloc(4096): kmem_map too small: 35684352 total allocated > > How much RAM do you have Phil ? 256 MB (G4-400 for reminders). Phil From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:37:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3720916A4CE; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:37:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E4743FDF; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:37:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D3A70610; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:37:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92567-05; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:37:39 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EEB1C70601; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:37:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:37:38 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: Andrew Gallatin Message-ID: <20031205223738.GB91010@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FCD388F.1030708@freebsd.org> <20031205200646.GC77674@moof.catpipe.net> <16336.63333.417610.675929@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <16337.1899.841213.22173@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <16337.1899.841213.22173@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net cc: Peter Grehan cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld + new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:37:43 -0000 Andrew Gallatin (gallatin) writes: > > > For what its worth, I'm a moron. I forgot that I needed to > start rpcbind, statd, and lockd. :-D > Up and running fine now with a diskless env. Same here. Now just need to figure out this keyboard slowness. It's really weird. Peter, could I be missing some patches to syscons that affect input speed ? From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:40:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E15B16A4CE; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from moof.catpipe.net (moof.catpipe.net [195.249.214.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE03643FD7; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:40:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@moof.catpipe.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.catpipe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3151570610; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:40:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from moof.catpipe.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moof.catpipe.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 92734-02; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:40:09 +0100 (CET) Received: by moof.catpipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F18D170601; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:40:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:40:08 +0100 From: Phil Regnauld To: Andrew Gallatin , Peter Grehan , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20031205224008.GC91010@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FCD388F.1030708@freebsd.org> <20031205200646.GC77674@moof.catpipe.net> <16336.63333.417610.675929@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <16337.1899.841213.22173@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20031205223738.GB91010@moof.catpipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031205223738.GB91010@moof.catpipe.net> X-message-flag: Outlook: spreading viruses since 1997! http://www.rodos.net/outlook/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 Organization: catpipe Systems ApS User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at catpipe.net Subject: Re: Buildworld + new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:40:12 -0000 Phil Regnauld (regnauld+ppc) writes: > > Same here. Now just need to figure out this keyboard slowness. It's > really weird. Peter, could I be missing some patches to syscons that > affect input speed ? Ah, could this be it: From: http://homepage.mac.com/joeldiaz/freebsd/FreeBSD_PPC_Installation.html NOTE:If you've compiled from source, at the time of this writing, syscons is not presently in CURRENT. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:43:18 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9C016A4CE; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:43:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C7E43FD7; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:43:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB5MhFqt020044 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id hB5MhAMm009388; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:43:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16337.2557.949423.185049@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:43:09 -0500 (EST) To: Phil Regnauld In-Reply-To: <20031205224008.GC91010@moof.catpipe.net> References: <3FCD388F.1030708@freebsd.org> <20031205200646.GC77674@moof.catpipe.net> <16336.63333.417610.675929@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <16337.1899.841213.22173@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20031205223738.GB91010@moof.catpipe.net> <20031205224008.GC91010@moof.catpipe.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid cc: Peter Grehan cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld + new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:43:18 -0000 Phil Regnauld writes: > Ah, could this be it: > > From: http://homepage.mac.com/joeldiaz/freebsd/FreeBSD_PPC_Installation.html > > NOTE:If you've compiled from source, at the time of this writing, > syscons is not presently in CURRENT. FWIW, I think there is generally some badness in the console code. I built my current kernel natively on a serial console, and the box would hang every few files. After I did make >& /dev/null, the hangs stopped altogether. Now that I've got a password file, I can actually ssh in, so I don't care about the console all that much ;) Drew From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:44:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2AD16A4CE for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35BE43FCB for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:44:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-124.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.124]) hB5Mi6ZG039646; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:44:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD10A32.5090305@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:44:02 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin References: <16336.62756.56554.414294@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> In-Reply-To: <16336.62756.56554.414294@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -msoft-float? -finline-limit=15000 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:44:17 -0000 > I assume we want something like the following? Yep, as hidden down the end of http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=76502+0+current/freebsd-ppc From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:48:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE7A16A4CE for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:48:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4916B43FD7 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:48:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-124.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.124]) hB5Mm3ZG039652; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:48:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD10B20.2010606@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:48:00 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phil Regnauld References: <3FCD388F.1030708@freebsd.org> <20031205200646.GC77674@moof.catpipe.net> <16336.63333.417610.675929@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <16337.1899.841213.22173@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20031205223738.GB91010@moof.catpipe.net> <20031205224008.GC91010@moof.catpipe.net> In-Reply-To: <20031205224008.GC91010@moof.catpipe.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld + new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:48:19 -0000 > Ah, could this be it: Yep, that's it. The OpenFirmware console polls for keyboard input, but the rate is quite slow - you can speed it up a bit by changing the definition of OFW_POLL_HZ in sys/dev/ofw/ofw_console.c. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 14:50:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D746116A4CE for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:50:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from liberty.onthenet.com.au (liberty.OntheNet.com.au [203.22.124.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAA643F93 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:50:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.org (CPE-30-124.dsl.onthenet.net [203.144.30.124]) hB5MoCZG039659; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:50:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <3FD10BA0.4050502@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 08:50:08 +1000 From: Peter Grehan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin References: <3FCD388F.1030708@freebsd.org> <20031205200646.GC77674@moof.catpipe.net> <16336.63333.417610.675929@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <16337.1899.841213.22173@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20031205223738.GB91010@moof.catpipe.net> <20031205224008.GC91010@moof.catpipe.net> <16337.2557.949423.185049@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> In-Reply-To: <16337.2557.949423.185049@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld + new kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 22:50:23 -0000 > FWIW, I think there is generally some badness in the console code. > > I built my current kernel natively on a serial console, and the box > would hang every few files. After I did make >& /dev/null, the > hangs stopped altogether. The serial console doesn't get much coverage (you're it :). It might be time to migrate it over to the newer uart code. later, Peter. From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 5 21:25:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C20D16A4CE; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net (cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75A243F93; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 21:25:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from welchsm@earthlink.net) Received: from gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.242]) by cardinal.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ASUww-0003cg-00; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 21:25:50 -0800 Message-ID: <3654250.1070688356611.JavaMail.root@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:25:56 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Sean Welch To: grehan@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FIrewire external drives X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sean Welch List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 05:25:57 -0000 Another reason to buy an iPod? ;-) Sean > ... seem to work OK with the syscons tarball. I partitioned one > up in OSX, untarred the root filesys onto an empty partition, > edited fstab to have /dev/da0s12 as root, and using the latest > loader, set currdev to "fw/node/sbp-2/disk@0:12," and booted. > > Seems to work quite well ! > > later, > > Peter.